From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 00:41:17 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:41:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
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	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>

You can have all of the Puget Sound region but I get Squak Mountain. 
And I will split it with the 2 Bugeyes up the road, the Morgan down the
street and the really cool TR4 up at the top on the loop.  In case you
wonder I walk all over the mountain peering into all of the open
garages.  If there is a tarp I know what is underneath.

-g


Bill L wrote:
> Hello ,
>
>      Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
>      presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
>      British Columbia,
>      Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
>      Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
>      thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
>      which runs north south rather than the columbia river running
>      east west for political, economic, and geographic reasons).

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 04:49:54 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:49:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 outside mirrors
In-Reply-To: <48BB484D.5080700@comcast.net>
References: <688D8DA2-40D9-4A6C-8C12-019C627E954B@gmail.com>
	<F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>
	<48BB484D.5080700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809010349r7b9f657fo85c136c76b00c144@mail.gmail.com>

Back in 2001, I purchased a set of mirrors very similar to those on the
white bugeye on page17 of the OS&M. I bought them off eBay, so it wasn't
until they arrived, that I found that they were spring loaded, and require a
large hole to be made in the bonnet, to mount them.
Research your mirrors carefully before purchasing them....
Fortunately, since then, I have purchased a second bonnet, to drill for my
mirrors. That way, I can leave the original one pristine.
Provided I ever get round to getting the lil bugger painted.

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> nases wrote:
> >> Does the Raydyot style mirror with the 1/4" thread stem mount in the
> >> Bugeye windscreen post hole?
> >>
> >>
> Phil
>
> I have a flat lucas *style* mirror with a stem mounted thru the post on
> the 58.
> I drilled and threaded the windshield post base for the cone shaped
> mirror on the 59.
> Motorcycle mirrors with a stem of no more than 5/16" will fit the post
> hole.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Sep  1 06:10:57 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:10:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <82646.25384.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AA400E0D1184407A98F5015F15D029CF@TRACY>

ROFL

Not bad for a fellow raised in a neighborhood marked "Slow Children" eh?

Tracy (short bus)Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Soave
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 4:31 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:
> President AHCUSA

Tracy,

I don't have one, but I did want to congratulate you - the last Healey club
official on the list complained that his letter set did not have an "M" and
came with a "W" instead.

Ron
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 07:39:41 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:39:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com> <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809010639u4a3baf0byad9b81d41f7e8cae@mail.gmail.com>

I'm confused... if I just want to be a minion then how do I find the
president of my local chapter?  ;)

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:41 AM, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> You can have all of the Puget Sound region but I get Squak Mountain.
> And I will split it with the 2 Bugeyes up the road, the Morgan down the
> street and the really cool TR4 up at the top on the loop.  In case you
> wonder I walk all over the mountain peering into all of the open
> garages.  If there is a tarp I know what is underneath.
>
> -g
>
>
> Bill L wrote:
>> Hello ,
>>
>>      Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
>>      presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
>>      British Columbia,
>>      Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
>>      Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
>>      thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
>>      which runs north south rather than the columbia river running
>>      east west for political, economic, and geographic reasons).

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  1 07:41:34 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 06:41:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809010639u4a3baf0byad9b81d41f7e8cae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com><97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com><191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
	<8c1781040809010639u4a3baf0byad9b81d41f7e8cae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D3A3101939D2429F926AB9DD674282F8@spider>

"...he is us."
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Trevor Jessie
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 6:40 AM
To: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

I'm confused... if I just want to be a minion then how do I find the
president of my local chapter?  ;)

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep  1 07:56:12 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:56:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <507402372.20080831164532@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
	<1417100255.20080831153852@pacifier.com>
	<1D5722222863480CBA5F3F88D2617158@midget>
	<507402372.20080831164532@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <449EAB00C461446BB10253DFB9379E62@Home>

>Lords of all we survey from the seats of our sprites.

But I am really short, so have raised the height of my "surfer's seats" by 
several inches.  Does that mean I must reduce my domain by the extra amount 
attributable to non-standard seating?   I know this group puts great stake 
in authenticity.  Maybe it would have been better to buy a British pillow 
instead.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep  1 08:11:10 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:11:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts on Long Island
Message-ID: <C5479194BC504071A4B5C52591B5A87A@Home>

>Parts available from vping at optonline.net

In addition, I have a good rolling '71 tub, the rolling parts belonging to Vince and the tub part belonging to me.  This tub was a mistake during a particularly low period of my restoration, and it is now available free to anyone who wants to haul it away.  It needs a battery/heater shelf, floors on both sides, and one 2' square patch on the right front wheel well.  No doors, boot lid, fenders, etc.  The rolling parts must be negotiated with Vince.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep  1 08:13:37 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:13:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com> <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>

Hello William,

     Actually Bill M. has first claim on anything North of Olympia and
     West of Snoqualamie Pass. I have only been allowed to Claim
     Western Washington because he has relinquished his claim TO ME.
     As far as I'm concerned YOU may have whatever you claim, but you
     gotta take it up with HIM. .. .. Nonetheless, despite the
     presence of Vern Olson in Eastern Oregon, Corvalis Bill in
     Western Central Oregon, Dave G. on the Oregon Coast, and (oh man
     i'm sorry if forget the name) in the Tri Cities, I STILL CLAIM
     Pacific Northwest President. Not by virtue of, well not by
     virtue, PERIOD. just because.  IF anyone want to dispute my
     claim, BRING YOUR SPRITE, We'll take a drive and have a brew and
     talk thing out.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Death is life's way of telling you you've been fired. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep  1 08:15:24 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:15:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <449EAB00C461446BB10253DFB9379E62@Home>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
	<1417100255.20080831153852@pacifier.com>
	<1D5722222863480CBA5F3F88D2617158@midget>
	<507402372.20080831164532@pacifier.com>
	<449EAB00C461446BB10253DFB9379E62@Home>
Message-ID: <1356692109.20080901071524@pacifier.com>

Hello Michael,

     Authenticity be Damned. We put more stock in DRIVING! 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I won't tell you anything about my salivary glands," said Tom secretively.

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Sep  1 08:32:37 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:32:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>, <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>

I am the original Dave G. (I think) and I live in the Tri-Cities but I wouldn't 
mind living on the Oregon Coast.... do I get an all expenses paid relocation 
package??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep  1 09:22:48 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:22:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com><97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com><191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com> <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <12F725C86CAF4857B9778FAFFEF64588@midget>

> Hello William,
>     Actually Bill M. has first claim on anything North of Olympia and
>     West of Snoqualamie Pass. I have only been allowed to Claim
>     Western Washington because he has relinquished his claim TO ME.
>     As far as I'm concerned YOU may have whatever you claim, but you
>     gotta take it up with HIM. .. .. Nonetheless, despite the
>     presence of Vern Olson in Eastern Oregon, Corvalis Bill in
>     Western Central Oregon, Dave G. on the Oregon Coast, and (oh man
>     i'm sorry if forget the name) in the Tri Cities, I STILL CLAIM
>     Pacific Northwest President. Not by virtue of, well not by
>     virtue, PERIOD. just because.  IF anyone want to dispute my
>     claim, BRING YOUR SPRITE, We'll take a drive and have a brew and
>     talk thing out.
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           

I move that we just rename the region "Billgaria" and let the Bills share.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:24:40 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:24:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>, <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com> 
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W3672AACDEC895B4944012DCA5C0@phx.gbl>

Sure- just pay all of the expenses and GO!!!!


> From: dmg at bossig.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 07:32:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
>
> I am the original Dave G. (I think) and I live in the Tri-Cities but I
wouldn't
> mind living on the Oregon Coast.... do I get an all expenses paid relocation
> package??
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!
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From barry.lacy at comcast.net  Mon Sep  1 09:25:10 2008
From: barry.lacy at comcast.net (Barry Lacy)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>, 
	<295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>

To all.

It is my divine right as a Brit, to commandeer ALL territories in the name 
of Her Most Britannic Royal Highness.
I shall subjugate your colonies, and use your stone and wood (some good 
stuff in the NW) and build me a big castle, with three spridget garage in 
which to dominate Spridgetdom; by oppression, or by force if necessary.

You may surrender your car parts, tools, 4-post lifts voluntarily for the 
good of the Empire.

You will be protected. I can offer overpriced, undervalued insurance for 
your steeds.
In return, I will call upon you in times of civil unrest, or when I need 
knowledge and counsel.

Tributes may be made in Beer, Cat Litter or Lucas Smoke.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his 
20W/50 with me Shall be my brother.
Cry 'God for Donald, Abingdon, and Saint Lucas!'

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Sep  1 09:33:54 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:33:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
Message-ID: <48BBA8F2.8585.5B2CC2@dmg.bossig.com>

Not again!!! I thought I'd fixed all that when I voted with my  boots!!

On 1 Sep 2008 at 10:25, Barry Lacy wrote:
>> It is my divine right as a Brit, to commandeer ALL territories in the
>> name of Her Most Britannic Royal Highness.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Sep  1 09:34:59 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:34:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W3672AACDEC895B4944012DCA5C0@phx.gbl>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<BLU107-W3672AACDEC895B4944012DCA5C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48BBA933.17194.5C281A@dmg.bossig.com>

Not quite what I had in mind.... <GRIN>

On 1 Sep 2008 at 8:24, Bill Masquelier wrote:
>> Sure- just pay all of the expenses and GO!!!!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:43:04 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:43:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com> <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
	<D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809010843u5532726aw76a5a77c0dff7d23@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Barry Lacy <barry.lacy at comcast.net> wrote:

To all.

It is my divine right as a Brit, to commandeer ALL territories in the name
of Her Most Britannic Royal Highness.


Hey Lord President Barry,

You better be careful... Them's fightin words in some parts of these here
USA. Especially the guy on the list from Iowa who has a 77 Barcolounger! I
can't remember his name and haven't seen a post from him in a while but if
you piss him off he will kick you ass! That guy was always kickin somebody's
ass so watch what you say... He is an excitable boy. And, I got the
impression that he likes to kick ass just for the fun of it.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep  1 09:53:17 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 08:53:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>, <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
	<D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
Message-ID: <9610290185.20080901085317@pacifier.com>

Hello Barry,

     hey, aren't you THE STIGG'S Cousin?

     In which case COME on over the Rockies and CLAIM your territory. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I'd better repeat that SOS message," said Tom remorsefully.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 09:54:43 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:54:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top frame bolts
Message-ID: <e98d88090809010854x352980d1j58a9da92a09b5d77@mail.gmail.com>

I just purchased another rolling 68 shell for a couple hundred bucks. I am
trying to get it somewhat water resistant, before the rains from Gustov hit.
I want to put the top frame on, to hold up a tarp. Can anyone tell me the
bolt size for where the frame bolts down behind the B pillar? It appears to
be a 5/16 18, but I cannot get the bolts to go in easily. Before I go to
tapping the body with the wrong die, I just wanted to check.
Thanks,
Brad

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep  1 10:04:39 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:04:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>, <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
	<48BB9A95.29430.230F67@dmg.bossig.com>
	<D61AE8F396494E658AC275E68C406645@TK421>
Message-ID: <48BC1297.1040001@frontiernet.net>

As an Irish Lakota, I have an inborn desire to scalp bloody Brits who 
try to subjugate me.  I would strongly advise you to limit your desire 
to enlarge your territory.

Kate
Sprite Midget Club, USA
Eastern Nevada Region



Barry Lacy wrote:
> To all.
>
> It is my divine right as a Brit, to commandeer ALL territories in the name 
> of Her Most Britannic Royal Highness.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep  1 10:12:58 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:12:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen replacement
Message-ID: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  At the ABFM-pdx, i was able to obtain a windscreen complete with
  frame ($125) to replace the one that took a rock, while passing thru
  Idaho on my way to LotO.

  Are they really as easy to replace as it seems? FOUR bolts on the
  side two for the support rod and PULL UP? Or are there tricks and
  precautions?

  TIA

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  On the other hand.... you  have different fingers.

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Sep  1 10:17:09 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:17:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 outside mirrors
Message-ID: <bf2.37a412e1.35ed6f85@aol.com>

The timing of your question is perfect. I installed a pair of Raydot  mirrors 
on my Bugeye this past Thursday evening. If you plan to use side  curtains, 
they will not clear the Raydot mirror when you open the door, if the  mirror is 
installed using the rear screw mount for the windshield post. Seeing  as the 
front screw goes into a concealed and in-accessible captive nut, it  made no 
sense for me to consider using that location either.
 
I removed the windshield frame from the car and drilled a 1/4" mounting  hole 
in the base of frame directly between the two existing mounting holes.  Since 
the 1/4" stud out the bottom of the Raydot is quite long, I also drilled a  
hole in the sheet metal bodywork below the mounting location to allow the  bolt 
to penetrate that area. An option to drilling the car would be to  shorten 
the Raydot stud a bit.
 
In my opinion, these mirrors really suit the looks of the Bugeye very  well.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep  1 10:26:59 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:26:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Top frame bolts
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090809010854x352980d1j58a9da92a09b5d77@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090809010854x352980d1j58a9da92a09b5d77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BC17D3.9020707@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> I just purchased another rolling 68 shell for a couple hundred bucks. I am
> trying to get it somewhat water resistant, before the rains from Gustov hit.
> I want to put the top frame on, to hold up a tarp. Can anyone tell me the
> bolt size for where the frame bolts down behind the B pillar? 
5/16 24 (fine thread) by 3/4" long


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 10:32:58 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <12F725C86CAF4857B9778FAFFEF64588@midget>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com><97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com><191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com> <295325392.20080901071337@pacifier.com>
	<12F725C86CAF4857B9778FAFFEF64588@midget>
Message-ID: <48BC193A.8040106@gmail.com>

We do seem to have an assload of Bill's up here.

David Lieb wrote:
>
> I move that we just rename the region "Billgaria" and let the Bills share.

From wrongwayricky at hughes.net  Mon Sep  1 10:37:43 2008
From: wrongwayricky at hughes.net (RICK WALTERS)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:37:43 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle
Message-ID: <217684325.449201220287063530.JavaMail.mail@webmail01>

   Hi guys,
   Been gone for a few years, I'm back.
   Have  a  question  too. B I broke a axle on Puddles, 60 bugeye, and it
   won't come out.
   The other side pulled right out. B This one is in there pretty good.
   So is there a trick I'm missing?
   BTW I removed the four nuts and a phillip screw.
   -wrongwayricky at hughes.net
   -"puddles" 60 Bugeye

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 10:44:52 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:44:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>
References: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>
Message-ID: <48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>

I have one if you want it.  I removed the Midget from the car and welded
the holes shut.  I don't think I am going to put them back on the car. 
The M is $100 but you can have a W for free :-)

-g


Tracy Drummond wrote:
> I need an M for my MIDGET project
>
>  
>
> I hate to buy the whole set
>
>  
>
> Also wanted
>
>  
>
> Ignition with steering lock, key, switch and pigtail
>
>  
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep  1 10:46:44 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:46:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen replacement
References: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <5086D163122645348F84626DCB3999AC@midget>

>  At the ABFM-pdx, i was able to obtain a windscreen complete with
>  frame ($125) to replace the one that took a rock, while passing thru
>  Idaho on my way to LotO.
>
>  Are they really as easy to replace as it seems? FOUR bolts on the
>  side two for the support rod and PULL UP? Or are there tricks and
>  precautions?

If it is anything like the later Spridgets, you are asking the WRONG 
question.
The REAL question is, "How hard is it to put the new one in?" 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep  1 10:49:26 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:49:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken axle
References: <217684325.449201220287063530.JavaMail.mail@webmail01>
Message-ID: <8E599F27B5F944AB9D3F21BAFC243349@midget>

Ricky,
First, the axles twist as they break and can be quite difficult to get the 
stub out. I know a gut who rigged up a LONG chunk of rebar to drive the stub 
out from the other side. In any event, you should probably pull the center 
section out to be sure all of the debris is cleaned out.

Second, the axles built after they stopped building Sprites (1972 and newer) 
tend to be stronger than the earlier ones, ESPECIALLY the ones in the 
Bugeyes.
David lieb 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep  1 11:10:21 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:10:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
References: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48BC21FD.3040203@frontiernet.net>

Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>   At the ABFM-pdx, i was able to obtain a windscreen complete with
>   frame ($125) to replace the one that took a rock, while passing thru
>   Idaho on my way to LotO.
> The ones under the dash are easiest to work with if you have the ability to grow four microscopic hands.
>   
    Kate
> Or are there tricks and
>   precautions?
>
>   TIA
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 11:40:59 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <5086D163122645348F84626DCB3999AC@midget>
References: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
	<5086D163122645348F84626DCB3999AC@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809011040s1e906667j2fbdffdaaf074da5@mail.gmail.com>

Especially if you put all new rubber on the damned thing like I did!!  Colin
Dodd finally told me the secret for that. The long rubber gasket needs to be
trimmed away some where it overlaps the gasket under the windshield post.
Then all you need is several good sized Gorillas to help push the post down
so you can get the bolts in. As Kate said, grow a few small hands on each
arm....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:46 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> >  At the ABFM-pdx, i was able to obtain a windscreen complete with
> >  frame ($125) to replace the one that took a rock, while passing thru
> >  Idaho on my way to LotO.
> >
> >  Are they really as easy to replace as it seems? FOUR bolts on the
> >  side two for the support rod and PULL UP? Or are there tricks and
> >  precautions?
>
> If it is anything like the later Spridgets, you are asking the WRONG
> question.
> The REAL question is, "How hard is it to put the new one in?"
> _______________________________________________
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>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 11:51:01 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:51:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen replacement
In-Reply-To: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
References: <1643240569.20080901091258@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809011051t56addd94hd59787d57b5333fc@mail.gmail.com>

>  At the ABFM-pdx, i was able to obtain a windscreen complete with
>  frame ($125) to replace the one that took a rock, while passing thru
>  Idaho on my way to LotO.
>
>  Are they really as easy to replace as it seems? FOUR bolts on the
>  side two for the support rod and PULL UP? Or are there tricks and
>  precautions?
>

They are not very difficult. Two bolts are real easy and the other two just
take some patience. A 1/4 drive ratchet works great after you break the
bolts loose. There are shims on each side to watch for. Check the location
of each and number of shims BEFORE you pull the windshield off the car. Tape
the shims in place before you try to install the new windshield. You will
need 2 people to help for the best (read easiest) install. Have one on each
end wiggling it as you start the bolts on each side. Check the fit with the
top as you tighten the bolts! Sometimes you need to adjust the angle of the
wind shield to get it back to where it was. Since you have a take off top it
should not be much of a concern but on a fold down top it can make a
difference. You should also replace the gasket that seals the cowl to the
windshield or, if the new one is still in decent shape (very pliable), use a
silicone RTV sealer between it and the cowl. Just plopping a different
windshield onto your car will probably cause it to leak without some goo in
between. Change the post gaskets too or goop them as well.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep  1 11:53:57 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:53:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
References: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>
	<48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3055D0B742D84D4F3F7379B85C0@phx.gbl>

A guy hre has a '78 MIGDET ... on one side anyway!

-----Original Message-----
From: William M. Gilroy

I have one if you want it.  I removed the Midget from the car and welded
the holes shut.  I don't think I am going to put them back on the car. 
The M is $100 but you can have a W for free :-)

-g


Tracy Drummond wrote:
> I need an M for my MIDGET project
>
>  
>
> I hate to buy the whole set
>
>  
>
> Also wanted
>
>  
>
> Ignition with steering lock, key, switch and pigtail
>
>  
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 11:56:51 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:56:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
References: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>
	<48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809011056x71280621oa950c3f82b8df539@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:44 AM, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com>wrote:
I have one if you want it.  I removed the Midget from the car and welded
the holes shut.  I don't think I am going to put them back on the car.
The M is $100 but you can have a W for free :-)

Tracy Drummond wrote:
I need an M for my MIDGET project

I have him covered with the ignition stuff too!
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 11:59:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 12:59:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top frame bolts
In-Reply-To: <48BC17D3.9020707@comcast.net>
References: <e98d88090809010854x352980d1j58a9da92a09b5d77@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC17D3.9020707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809011059n3e556349p4536f1cba12752ca@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you all. I have the frame on, and the car is ready for the clouds soon
to dump on us.

Brad

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>> I just purchased another rolling 68 shell for a couple hundred bucks. I am
>> trying to get it somewhat water resistant, before the rains from Gustov
>> hit.
>> I want to put the top frame on, to hold up a tarp. Can anyone tell me the
>> bolt size for where the frame bolts down behind the B pillar?
>>
> 5/16 24 (fine thread) by 3/4" long
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  1 12:44:25 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:44:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
References: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY><48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP3055D0B742D84D4F3F7379B85C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <95FFD7FE3C8F4010B1BC0B4E0E3823D9@Larry>

So, Canadians can't spell "here" or "Midget", huh?

Or is that really the way they are spelled in the Canadian language?

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!


A guy hre has a '78 MIGDET ... on one side anyway!

-----Original Message-----
From: William M. Gilroy

I have one if you want it.  I removed the Midget from the car and welded
the holes shut.  I don't think I am going to put them back on the car. 
The M is $100 but you can have a W for free :-)

-g


Tracy Drummond wrote:
> I need an M for my MIDGET project
>
>  
>
> I hate to buy the whole set
>
>  
>
> Also wanted
>
>  
>
> Ignition with steering lock, key, switch and pigtail
>
>  
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Sep  1 13:18:51 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:18:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] charging systems questions
In-Reply-To: <95FFD7FE3C8F4010B1BC0B4E0E3823D9@Larry>
Message-ID: <20080901191852.DNWE16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

OK, so taking a break from the thing today and listening to it as it sat
there.  (yes Master Po I have been paying attention)

Some background and observations here...

car was built from boxes and grocery bags after sitting 20 years

Car runs but key electric functions I like are not working like the tach or
charging system.

Car once had a radio since there is an antenna and hole to prove it.

Hooking a meter on the back of the dynamo/generator I get something above 12
volts at times at idle.

Red light glows brightly on the tach when running.

Car is running in positive earth "mode"

What are the chances that before it was taken apart from the DPO that it was
converted to Negative ground?

If I ran it positive earth for the past few weeks around the block and it
was negative ground, could I have fried the regulator and/or tach?

Do I replace the regulator 1st?
I don't really mind if its pos earth, I will not be using a radio in it.
Do I need to re-polarize the dynamo/generator?

Humor me, I think I'm on to something.

Thanks
Chris

66 MKIII
Brookfield, WI

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep  1 14:13:06 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 16:13:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <95FFD7FE3C8F4010B1BC0B4E0E3823D9@Larry>
References: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY><48BC1C04.8000301@gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP3055D0B742D84D4F3F7379B85C0@phx.gbl>
	<95FFD7FE3C8F4010B1BC0B4E0E3823D9@Larry>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP261B7BF20EB8A358E4C39DB85C0@phx.gbl>

;0  Well, apparently I can't spell 'here'.  The car came like that from
California though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: September 1, 2008 2:44 PM
To: Robert Duquette; 'Spridgets List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!

So, Canadians can't spell "here" or "Midget", huh?

Or is that really the way they are spelled in the Canadian language?

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!


A guy hre has a '78 MIGDET ... on one side anyway!

-----Original Message-----
From: William M. Gilroy

I have one if you want it.  I removed the Midget from the car and welded
the holes shut.  I don't think I am going to put them back on the car. 
The M is $100 but you can have a W for free :-)

-g


Tracy Drummond wrote:
> I need an M for my MIDGET project
>
>  
>
> I hate to buy the whole set
>
>  
>
> Also wanted
>
>  
>
> Ignition with steering lock, key, switch and pigtail
>
>  
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  1 14:45:54 2008
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan Chapter of the Sprite Midget Club
Message-ID: <868258.44364.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Although I think Kevin Berry and I were the only contingent from Michigan at
LOTO, I nominate Kevin, Tim Collins, Michael Conn, Roger Cotting, John Deikis,
Blake Discher, Brock Dittrick, John  Donohoe, Rick Fisk, Samuel Hamilton,
Christopher Rife, Dave Smith, and Mike and Denise Turner for pesidents of our
chapter.  And if I missed any other Spridget forum members from Michigan,
they, too, are nominated.  Doug Altman    ....o~'o

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Sep  1 18:30:09 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:30:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan Chapter of the Sprite Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <868258.44364.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <868258.44364.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4i72hq@email.mtu.edu>

As a retired college Dean in the "Old Dean's Relocation and 
Protection Program" I must keep a low profile so I will defer to any 
of the other Michiganders.

At 04:45 PM 9/1/2008, Doug Altman wrote:
>Although I think Kevin Berry and I were the only contingent from Michigan at
>LOTO, I nominate Kevin, Tim Collins, . . .

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep  1 19:45:17 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:45:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite...September OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809011033q5edf13c6x6a6c8a7529081b86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808312246r72b37a79sf5f52932755111c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA19B5F3DC4C4C7EB699719EE66528C0@universal1>
	<43840a7e0809011033q5edf13c6x6a6c8a7529081b86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BC9AAD.2030809@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> Yeah, I'll be there over the entire weekend. I arrive at PHL on the 
> 25th and fly out again on the 30th. So the weekend is 27th & 28th of 
> September.  I'll let Frank do the official announcement and issue the 
> Fatwa. 
O fish ill announcement of the 1st of at least 2 Holy shits for the holy 
Sprite
will be the weekend of September 27th & 28th.
I do have a few spare rooms being an empty nester now, and a couch, 
floor, and even a garage if you want to sleep out there.
A couple of rooms are spoken for already, 1st to replay gets the room.
If a bunch of people are coming, there is a brand new Comfort Inn just a 
few blocks away.
It should be "off season" by then.
This will be the cut, weld, beat out dents, and slap taco bell wrapers 
and bondo on the car.
I hope to get it close and maybe epoxy primed by the end of the weekend.
There will be a professional (retired) welder here to show us how it's 
done properly, he will just instruct, he is not going to weld.
So if you want to learn to weld, come on out. We have 1 structural weld 
to do, 1 repair where the tunnel was cut, and a rust patch to cut out 
and fix.
We will be doing dolly work on dents, bondo work too and lots of sanding 
to bare metal.
Watch as Jim learns the art of finish painting on a radiator. Not a 
spray bomb, real automotive paint gun stuff.
Fr Jack will be here on Sunday, he can not make Saturday as he is doing 
a wedding in Maryland that day.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  1 23:18:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:18:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite...September OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <48BC9AAD.2030809@comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e0808312246r72b37a79sf5f52932755111c8@mail.gmail.com>
	<AA19B5F3DC4C4C7EB699719EE66528C0@universal1>
	<43840a7e0809011033q5edf13c6x6a6c8a7529081b86@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BC9AAD.2030809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809012218l1ead1f29t676fe74a316caa6e@mail.gmail.com>

Pressure is ON now, guys!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, I'll be there over the entire weekend. I arrive at PHL on the 25th
>> and fly out again on the 30th. So the weekend is 27th & 28th of September.
>>  I'll let Frank do the official announcement and issue the Fatwa.
>>
> O fish ill announcement of the 1st of at least 2 Holy shits for the holy
> Sprite
> will be the weekend of September 27th & 28th.
> I do have a few spare rooms being an empty nester now, and a couch, floor,
> and even a garage if you want to sleep out there.
> A couple of rooms are spoken for already, 1st to replay gets the room.
> If a bunch of people are coming, there is a brand new Comfort Inn just a
> few blocks away.
> It should be "off season" by then.
> This will be the cut, weld, beat out dents, and slap taco bell wrapers and
> bondo on the car.
> I hope to get it close and maybe epoxy primed by the end of the weekend.
> There will be a professional (retired) welder here to show us how it's done
> properly, he will just instruct, he is not going to weld.
> So if you want to learn to weld, come on out. We have 1 structural weld to
> do, 1 repair where the tunnel was cut, and a rust patch to cut out and fix.
> We will be doing dolly work on dents, bondo work too and lots of sanding to
> bare metal.
> Watch as Jim learns the art of finish painting on a radiator. Not a spray
> bomb, real automotive paint gun stuff.
> Fr Jack will be here on Sunday, he can not make Saturday as he is doing a
> wedding in Maryland that day.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Mon Sep  1 23:21:20 2008
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:21:20 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
Message-ID: <090220080521.3259.48BCCD5000068E3200000CBB2216566276CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>

The 1500 needs tires and I can't find the pirelli 155sr tire that it presently wears.  Anyone got a suggestion as to what is a good replacement that will get the job done and will not rub.

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 07:28:12 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield Shims One other trick,
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1220292001.18793.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <725633.45907.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

One other trick on windshield shims besides taping them together. I cut a slit
in each shim so that I could put all bolts in place and then could slide the
shim in from the backside. This turned it into a one person job. Now on a 66+
car with Roll Up windows, a second pair of hands is needed to pull the
windshield forward so that shutting the door with window up does not result in
windshield moving around. Not an issue with top down but once top is up and in
place becomes more difficult to close the door.
 
Also anyone know if windshield botls are different lengths. Having issues
getting DS tight and I think I'm running into an issue with top bolt going all
the way through and hitting sheet metal. Another washer will solve the problem
but a total PITA to get at it.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep  2 09:52:31 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:52:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
References: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>
	<7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
Message-ID: <E1F5D9F2-7037-448E-92EF-35A3FFC4F852@comcast.net>

Great site but no joy there either..  what I am looking for is a  
single large wire that is bent into a loop and each end the wire is  
bent 90 up to the hose it would be on...




      >   <
     .     .
    .       .
     .     .
       .  .


Kinda like that except that the ends of the wires would cross each of  
the making a complete circle.

Lester


On Aug 28, 2008, at 4:15 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com>  
<corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

>  Restoration Supply Company; p.18 in paper catalog.
>
> .pdf catalog at http://www.restorationstuff.com/Catalog/catalog.html
>
>
>
>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:00 PM
> To: spridget list; Sprite
> Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
>
>
>
> Evening all,
>
>
>
> does anyone know where to find those types of hose clamps that are
>
> just wire not the band type?
>
>
>
> Lester

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  2 10:09:24 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:09:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
References: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net><7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
	<E1F5D9F2-7037-448E-92EF-35A3FFC4F852@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AAA9B99D8173489EA667EB33A210C127@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Great site but no joy there either..  what I am looking for is a
> single large wire that is bent into a loop and each end the wire is
> bent 90 up to the hose it would be on...

So you are looking for modern rather than vintage? Take a pair of pliers and 
a caliper to the junkyard and harvest away till your little heart's content. 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  2 11:52:02 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:52:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re:  Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <g9jpto+nm7e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEDKDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<McMaster-Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/ page 255 they are called
constant tension spring hose clamps.>>

And FWIW & FYI, there is NOTHING on that page that is anywhere NEAR correct
on ANY Frogeye nor Spridget, folks.

Nor a MGA, MGB or a Big Healey<G>.

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  2 11:58:18 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:58:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re:  Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <g9jpto+nm7e@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDMDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<McMaster-Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/ page 255 they are called
constant tension spring hose clamps.>>

Forgot to add that the top style on that page that Lester is looking for IS
standard equipment on LOTS of American Iron (my 'Caminos, for example<G>)
and 'should' be available in any decent auto parts store!!

They also are 'supposed' to require a special pliers (think I saw on the
page) in install/remove.  They also ARE a big PITA !!!  LOL

From bvsprite at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 13:19:04 2008
From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (Bryan Vandiver)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:19:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
Message-ID: <2078364.20901220383144236.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune6.reunion.com>

Hi,

I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect with me so we can keep in touch.
-Bryan

Do You Know Bryan?
YES - Connect with Bryan, and see who's searching for you
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 14:32:35 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:32:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <2078364.20901220383144236.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune6.reunion.com>
References: <2078364.20901220383144236.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune6.reunion.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809021332lacd4bc3w46f35f789c1d9909@mail.gmail.com>

None of us are on Reunion.com.  You must be confused, Bryan.  To find us you
have to go to ReOnion.com

Where did this chump come from??

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bryan Vandiver <bvsprite at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect with
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>
> Do You Know Bryan?
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Sep  2 14:29:33 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:29:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809010639u4a3baf0byad9b81d41f7e8cae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com> <48BB8E8D.6030703@gmail.com>
	<8c1781040809010639u4a3baf0byad9b81d41f7e8cae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8F6C1F82-675B-4F44-BEE1-9B867C0018D5@phillymgclub.com>

As King of the Morrisville PA Chapter, the only minions I think we are  
have are ladies. Now the queen's (like Kate) may take ya.


Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

On Sep 1, 2008, at 9:39 AM, "Trevor Jessie" <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> I'm confused... if I just want to be a minion then how do I find the
> president of my local chapter?  ;)
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 2:41 AM, William M. Gilroy  
> <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You can have all of the Puget Sound region but I get Squak Mountain.
>> And I will split it with the 2 Bugeyes up the road, the Morgan down  
>> the
>> street and the really cool TR4 up at the top on the loop.  In case  
>> you
>> wonder I walk all over the mountain peering into all of the open
>> garages.  If there is a tarp I know what is underneath.
>>
>> -g
>>
>>
>> Bill L wrote:
>>> Hello ,
>>>
>>>     Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
>>>     presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
>>>     British Columbia,
>>>     Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
>>>     Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
>>>     thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
>>>     which runs north south rather than the columbia river running
>>>     east west for political, economic, and geographic reasons).
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From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep  2 14:42:37 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:42:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809021332lacd4bc3w46f35f789c1d9909@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2078364.20901220383144236.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune6.reunion.com>
	<43840a7e0809021332lacd4bc3w46f35f789c1d9909@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <090220082042.888.48BDA53D000A2ABD0000037822230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

You can eat spam, but it's not a good idea to respond to it.
 -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>: --------------


> None of us are on Reunion.com.  You must be confused, Bryan.  To find us you
> have to go to ReOnion.com
> 
> Where did this chump come from??
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bryan Vandiver  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect with
> > me so we can keep in touch. 

From bvsprite at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 15:02:24 2008
From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of  reunion.com
In-Reply-To: <090220082042.888.48BDA53D000A2ABD0000037822230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <185402.23102.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Folks,

I did NOT send out messages to anyone on the list, so please don't respond to it, and please ignore. 
And BEWARE of the Reunion.com web site. I happen to be looking for someone, and apparently 'Reunion .com' has some kind of spy bot, that reads your email address book, and automatically sends out a spam message to all the entries (ie spridgets at autox.team.net), so be very careful of this web site.

I apologize for the SPAM.

Regards,
Bryan


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:
From: tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:42 PM

tinydog sez:

You can eat spam, but it's not a good idea to respond to it.
 -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson"
<bmwwxman at gmail.com>: --------------


> None of us are on Reunion.com.  You must be confused, Bryan.  To find us
you
> have to go to ReOnion.com
> 
> Where did this chump come from??
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bryan Vandiver  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please
connect with
> > me so we can keep in touch. 
You are subscribed as bvsprite at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  2 15:28:25 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:28:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <090220080521.3259.48BCCD5000068E3200000CBB2216566276CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
References: <090220080521.3259.48BCCD5000068E3200000CBB2216566276CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48BDAFF9.40002@comcast.net>

jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:
> The 1500 needs tires and I can't find the pirelli 155sr tire that it presently wears.  Anyone got a suggestion as to what is a good replacement that will get the job done and will not rub.
> _______________________________________________
>   
 155/13s are the come on ad in at many tire places, 4 tires for $99 bucks.
Check the paper or local coupon pack.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep  2 15:30:03 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:30:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <E1F5D9F2-7037-448E-92EF-35A3FFC4F852@comcast.net>
References: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>
	<7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
	<E1F5D9F2-7037-448E-92EF-35A3FFC4F852@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <82E2BE6D-6EB4-48AA-9D3B-E858762EDC70@mac.com>

Lester,

What size are you looking for?

I will be back at the house Thursday evening and can check my supply.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Lester wrote:

> Great site but no joy there either..  what I am looking for is a
> single large wire that is bent into a loop and each end the wire is
> bent 90 up to the hose it would be on...
>
>
>
>
>>   <
>      .     .
>     .       .
>      .     .
>        .  .
>
>
> Kinda like that except that the ends of the wires would cross each of
> the making a complete circle.
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2008, at 4:15 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>>  Restoration Supply Company; p.18 in paper catalog.
>>
>> .pdf catalog at http://www.restorationstuff.com/Catalog/catalog.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:00 PM
>> To: spridget list; Sprite
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
>>
>>
>>
>> Evening all,
>>
>>
>>
>> does anyone know where to find those types of hose clamps that are
>>
>> just wire not the band type?
>>
>>
>>
>> Lester
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Sep  2 15:40:22 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:40:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] world gas prices
In-Reply-To: <BLU111-W29822646898833987587E5C2620@phx.gbl>
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com><E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
	<BLU111-W29822646898833987587E5C2620@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403DCA194@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Venezuela? Bananas and baseball.
The middle east?  C'mon!
I said "the world" not Podunk and Upper Jipipp.
How about Antarctica, the Falkland Islands, and Novosibiersk?

-----Original Message-----
From: brian S [mailto:bugeye15 at hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:08 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] world gas prices

Hi John,

haven't seen the prices in the middle east, have ya?
under a buck  a gallon. and 12 cents in Venezuela  :-)


http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

You are right tho, it is much cheaper than Europe,
But then again all of Europe could fit inside Texas, almost
;-)


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto
.

But we still have, and have historically had, the least expensive fuel
costs
in
> the world. I have yet to pay more than $1 per liter.


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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Tue Sep  2 15:42:45 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] RE-UnioN dot COM
Message-ID: <B1BBF61AF1694099A6E4C4FC69D87C03@universal1>

    Apparently they also have a 'snail-mail' division. Once they get your
address, you'll get several letters a month asking for you to send in all your
personal info so 'they' can get you in touch with long-lost classmates.

    So far I've found that I graduated from three different high schools in
Florida, one in Georgia and one in Iowa.

    Actually, I barely made it out of the one here in PA!

    Later,

                                                                CB
                                                                EFHS survivor
                                                                Cheer, cheer
for Old Betsy High!

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 15:49:51 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <48BDAFF9.40002@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <413575.60495.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
If your any where near Orange County California check craigs list - There is a
guy who sell them as take offs very cheap in Santa Ana.  

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
To: jmj3351 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:28 PM

jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:
> The 1500 needs tires and I can't find the pirelli 155sr tire that it
presently wears.  Anyone got a suggestion as to what is a good replacement
that
will get the job done and will not rub.
> _______________________________________________
>
 155/13s are the come on ad in at many tire places, 4 tires for $99 bucks.
Check the paper or local coupon pack.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Sep  2 15:57:38 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:57:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedi-Sleeve tool;  WAS:  Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403DCA19A@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

My chapter has acquired the "Roger Heil Bumpy Axel Stub Repair Sleeve
Installation Tool", also known as a Speedi-Sleeve driver for fixing
buggered rear axel stubs so they don't leak, especially when installing
the double-bearing rear hub upgrade. Why use a piece of tailpipe when a
machined device (+/- .001" from spec) made from stainless steel billet
will do the same thing?

To borrow this tool, contact our Sprite-Midget Club (Western Washtenaw
County Centre) president, Nigel Johnsfolly, to make amicable
arrangements.

This list, or a message to
johnsfolly AT gmail.com
will suffice for all official correspondence.

Tool is more or less in the public domain, if you should need to use it.




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:44 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

A word about Sprite - Midget Club USA....

....Future plans include a special tool loan program....


Cheers!!
Jim - President
1st and Elm Chapter, Dodge City
Sprite - Midget Club USA
Formative web site: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org

From franks97 at verizon.net  Tue Sep  2 16:07:34 2008
From: franks97 at verizon.net (franks97 at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:07:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Bleeding
Message-ID: <380-2200892222734831@M2W026.mail2web.com>

Okay, I dropped the clutch slave from the transmission and bled the clutch.
It seemed to have good pedal firmness it that configuration. When I
remounted the slave and inserted the rod it gurgled a bit and spit some
fluid out the top of the master. Now I have no clutch, the pedal just goes
to the floor. Suggestions?

Dave Franks
franks97 at verizon.net
67 Sprite #82 Blue


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From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Sep  2 16:13:15 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:13:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
References: <2078364.20901220383144236.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune6.reunion.com>
	<43840a7e0809021332lacd4bc3w46f35f789c1d9909@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <499A4482B268469CB6C2F9AD0FCBE572@TAIRS>

He couldn't read clearly, it was making his eyes water.

All the best

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)


> None of us are on Reunion.com.  You must be confused, Bryan.  To find us 
> you
> have to go to ReOnion.com
>
> Where did this chump come from??
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bryan Vandiver <bvsprite at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect 
>> with
>> me so we can keep in touch.
>> -Bryan
>>
>> Do You Know Bryan?
>> YES - Connect with Bryan, and see who's searching for you
>> http://www.reunion.com/showInviteRegistration.do?uid=282279514
>> NO - I don't know Bryan
>>
>> http://www.reunion.com/showInviteRegistration.do?unsub=true&uid=282279514&invitee=spridgets at autox.team.net
>>
>> ----------------------------
>>
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>> Us.
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 16:32:12 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:32:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Bleeding
In-Reply-To: <380-2200892222734831@M2W026.mail2web.com>
References: <380-2200892222734831@M2W026.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809021532t2a3a0bb7r80f0391aab894408@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dave,

I've tried this same method with the same results. I think what happened was
when the rod pushed the slave piston back, it forced fluid out the other end
of the system leaving insufficient fluid in the system and possibly some air
as well. I also think pushing on the pedal with no load on the slave piston
allowed some fluid out of the slave since there was no load on the slave
piston.

I cured it by letting it sit a while with the slave bleeder cracked then
using standard bleeding technique. (pump a bunch, open and shut bleeder, top
master, repeat).  PIA but its the best way I've found to bleed a clutch.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:07 PM, franks97 at verizon.net
<franks97 at verizon.net>wrote:

> Okay, I dropped the clutch slave from the transmission and bled the clutch.
> It seemed to have good pedal firmness it that configuration. When I
> remounted the slave and inserted the rod it gurgled a bit and spit some
> fluid out the top of the master. Now I have no clutch, the pedal just goes
> to the floor. Suggestions?
>
> Dave Franks
> franks97 at verizon.net
> 67 Sprite #82 Blue
>
>
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Cheers!!
Jim

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Sep  2 16:33:51 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:33:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  Please connect with me :)
Message-ID: <017a01c90d4b$fa2189a0$4e947e4c@HP>

 Bryan was/is on this list in the beginning. He has/had a very nice Bugeye.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 16:49:53 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:49:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedi-Sleeve tool;  WAS:  Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403DCA19A@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <285951.76434.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

...right after you measure it and send the dimensions, right John??


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:

> From: Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Speedi-Sleeve tool;  WAS:  Sprite-Midget Club
> To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:57 PM
> My chapter has acquired the "Roger Heil Bumpy Axel Stub
> Repair Sleeve
> Installation Tool", also known as a Speedi-Sleeve
> driver for fixing
> buggered rear axel stubs so they don't leak, especially
> when installing
> the double-bearing rear hub upgrade. Why use a piece of
> tailpipe when a
> machined device (+/- .001" from spec) made from
> stainless steel billet
> will do the same thing?
> 
> To borrow this tool, contact our Sprite-Midget Club
> (Western Washtenaw
> County Centre) president, Nigel Johnsfolly, to make
> amicable
> arrangements.
> 
> This list, or a message to
> johnsfolly AT gmail.com
> will suffice for all official correspondence.
> 
> Tool is more or less in the public domain, if you should
> need to use it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:44 PM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
> 
> A word about Sprite - Midget Club USA....
> 
> ....Future plans include a special tool loan program....
> 
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - President
> 1st and Elm Chapter, Dodge City
> Sprite - Midget Club USA
> Formative web site: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 16:54:52 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:54:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Bleeding
In-Reply-To: <380-2200892222734831@M2W026.mail2web.com>
Message-ID: <891518.80570.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, franks97 at verizon.net <franks97 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Okay, I dropped the clutch slave from the transmission and
> bled the clutch.
> It seemed to have good pedal firmness it that
> configuration. When I

How did you stop the slave rod from overtravelling? I'm sure you thought of this, but I'm not familiar with bleeding it off the transmission. I'd try again with it in place.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 17:00:12 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
Message-ID: <333131.15960.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Where did this chump come from??

Go easy...Bryan is a list contributor from way back before the list got into Dodge - the Ulix, Les Myer, Eric Mumsford days. I for one was glad to see he is still around, figuratively and literally!

Ron

From bvsprite at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 17:09:26 2008
From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:09:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <017a01c90d4b$fa2189a0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <684844.32765.qm@web53802.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Larry,

Thanks for the kind words.
I still have my bugeye (running strong), and I'm still on the list.
I don't get a chance to read, and participate like I used to.

I sent out a subsequent email letting everyone know that the reunion.com web site had some kind of spy-ware that read my address book, and sent out a spam message to all entries.

In any case, I hope all is well with you and Sandy. I missed you at the last PA british car show.
Will you be going to the San Juan Bautista meet?

Regards,
Bryan Vandiver
San Jose, CA
59-bugeye


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
Subject: [Spridgets]  Please connect with me :)
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 3:33 PM

 Bryan was/is on this list in the beginning. He has/had a very nice Bugeye.
You are subscribed as bvsprite at yahoo.com

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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 17:17:25 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:17:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <48BDAFF9.40002@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <961985.49414.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm happily driving around Long Island on the set of 155/80 13's Frank put on
my Midget just before selling it to me...  Frank told me he paid $99 for the
set.  They fit nicely under the square rear arches of my '71 and look pretty
good with a nice coating of Armor All Tire stuff.  They're not Pirelli's,
but I don't care - they'll probably last forever on such a light car.
 - David

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
To: jmj3351 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 4:28 PM

jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:
> The 1500 needs tires and I can't find the pirelli 155sr tire that it
presently wears.  Anyone got a suggestion as to what is a good replacement
that
will get the job done and will not rub.
> _______________________________________________
>
 155/13s are the come on ad in at many tire places, 4 tires for $99 bucks.
Check the paper or local coupon pack.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 18:11:20 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:11:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] RE-UnioN dot COM
In-Reply-To: <B1BBF61AF1694099A6E4C4FC69D87C03@universal1>
References: <B1BBF61AF1694099A6E4C4FC69D87C03@universal1>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809021711p3d2e3fe2j2064bf44a116dfc7@mail.gmail.com>

I didn't wanna hang out with the A Holes 30 years ago, why would I want to
now....

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net> wrote:

>    Apparently they also have a 'snail-mail' division. Once they get your
> address, you'll get several letters a month asking for you to send in all
> your
> personal info so 'they' can get you in touch with long-lost classmates.
>
>    So far I've found that I graduated from three different high schools in
> Florida, one in Georgia and one in Iowa.
>
>    Actually, I barely made it out of the one here in PA!
>
>    Later,
>
>                                                                CB
>                                                                EFHS
> survivor
>                                                                Cheer, cheer
> for Old Betsy High!
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  2 19:36:18 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:36:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <961985.49414.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Guessing nobody else has mention these to you, David:

<<look pretty good with a nice coating of Armor All Tire stuff.>>

NOT good for the tyres.  Accelerates the 'aging process'.

<<They're not Pirelli's, but I don't care - they'll probably last forever on
such a light car.>>

They are STILL dangerous after their 5th 'birthday'.  Check the
"Manufactured Code(s)" on them.
Decode info on my site in "Various Articles"

Ed
Please visit my site at:		www.justbrits.com

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Tue Sep  2 19:12:29 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1>

    "They are STILL dangerous after their 5th 'birthday'"

    Is there documented proof that 5 year old tires are going to explode,
delaminate, separate the tread, fall off the wheel or perform some other
destructive operation at that time limitation?

    I wonder if this might NOT be the case, especially if the car riding on
these tires is driven infrequently, kept in a garage (out of the sunlight)
when not driven and not raced.

    When submitting my vehicles to PA inspection, I have never been advised of
the age of the tires, only of the remaining tread, relative to the state
requirements.

    Just a thought,

                                                                             
   CB

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 19:21:20 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:21:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <48BDAFF9.40002@comcast.net>
References: <090220080521.3259.48BCCD5000068E3200000CBB2216566276CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
	<48BDAFF9.40002@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809021821v6f6d48f5t8ef3fd75d9997993@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

155/13s are the come on ad in at many tire places, 4 tires for $99 bucks.
Damn, you got took to the cleaners Frank! I bought my no-name 155s for $14
each plus tax.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  2 19:49:45 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:49:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1>
Message-ID: <48BDED39.4000306@comcast.net>

Charley Braum wrote:
>     "They are STILL dangerous after their 5th 'birthday'"
>
>     Is there documented proof that 5 year old tires are going to explode,
> delaminate, separate the tread, fall off the wheel or perform some other
> destructive operation at that time limitation?
>
>   
I know the 5 year old tires on my 59 were a real mess on the way out to 
Carlisle this year.
Of course it was raining as usual on the PA Pike at night. The 58 was in 
front of me and he had no problems with his 1 year old tires.
I bought new tires for the trip to MO and they made a world of difference.
Both cars are garaged.
My A40 had 8 or 9 year old tires on it, Tread was still fine, maybe 
10,000 miles on the tires at best.
I put new tires on it (skinnier) and again, a world of difference.
Tires for our little cars are cheap, don't get 80,000 mile tread life 
tires unless you are putting 20,000 miles a year on it.
Stock tires are $100 a set, that's $20 a year for tires.
Along these lines, also replace the rubber brake hoses every 10 years no 
matter what.
If you bought new ones in 1998 and never finished the restoration, throw 
them out NOW and buy new ones.
Hoses are dated these days, dating started in the mid 70s or so. The 
Holy Sprite had new brake hoses on it dated 1976, they looked perfect 
and the car has not seen the road since 1978, We cut them and tossed them.
The last thing you want is a popped brake hose on the freeway during a 
panic stop. You don't even want to experience this
going down your driveway into the street.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  2 19:57:18 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:57:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 question
Message-ID: <48BDEEFE.80608@comcast.net>

The Holy Sprite is getting a 1098 lump.
I have a pedal box from a Bugeye that had a 948.
Bugeyes had a stop on the heel of the clutch pedal.
Did the 1098 Spridgets have a pedal stop on the clutch?
It's a 3/4" hunk of round steel welded to the pedal arm to stop it 
before the pedal hits the floor.
In simpler terms....Do 1098 pedals look the same?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Sep  2 20:42:05 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:42:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 question
In-Reply-To: <48BDEEFE.80608@comcast.net>
References: <48BDEEFE.80608@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1873199944.20080902194205@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     Mine has just that stop on the back of the pedal and it's poked a
     hole through the rubber mat i have in there instead of carpet.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  For a holy stint, a moth of the cloth gave up his woolens for lint.

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Sep  2 21:09:00 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:09:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Single M/C pipe routing question
Message-ID: <48BD9D5C.7668.2E7370F@dmg.bossig.com>

My '65 has a single master cylinder
It is a LH drive car and the clutch slave cylinder is on the right (passenger 
side) of the rib-cage.
Does anybody have a good picture of the routing for the hydraulic line??
Or a very good description for this simpleton to follow??
On mine is has been horrbly mangled and runs across the top of the tranny 
just behing the block.
I'm reasonablt sure that is not the way it is supposed to be...

TIA

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  2 21:09:12 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Baked Alaska a'la Tutone
Message-ID: <815425.60307.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Check out the Kohler/Redman photo gallery - among the McLarens and Ferraris, a nice shot of Tutone's Sprite at the Elkhart Lake Concours (curiously absent is one of those "Alaska: Coldest weather, hottest Governor" bumper stickers). Also a nice pic of Grant Gongoll's Bugeye at speed, and Chris Beebe's '53 Studebaker. 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=6976

Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  2 22:22:22 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 22:22:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <673206.80801.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEKDDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Italians (me and Grandeffo). We're watching our turf very carefully. >>

Then shouldn't that be 'veddy'......

(ducking<G>)

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 22:42:28 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 21:42:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE rear brakes up-grade
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809022142q7eb5aabem54d04656059b2f56@mail.gmail.com>

Guys and Gals,

Anyone up-graded their Bugeye rear brakes with later model brakes?

Worth the effort and cost?

Thanks,

Herb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  2 22:46:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 23:46:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
In-Reply-To: <48BDED39.4000306@comcast.net>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1>
	<48BDED39.4000306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809022146g2e06321cp833ea2f86a6e11c7@mail.gmail.com>

Nobody understands tire aging more than a motorcyclist. The important thing
is the sidewalls and lips.  There is a thing called "weather checking" which
occurs. By the time it is visible you have already been skating on thin ice
for a while. It is not a matter of tread wear, but rather the condition of
the tire carcass. The problem is not loss of traction but chances of a
sidewall blowout. This happens on a car - squirrel...  This happens on a
bike - funeral.

Five years max as Ed said. After that the carcass becomes unsafe to lateral
stresses, bumps, braking and acceleration. No more expensive than they are,
change your tires at 5 years even if you have zero miles on them. I'm unsure
how fast they would deteriorate in a climate controlled garage, but most of
us put tires through the freeze, heat cycle and that is what does the
damage.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Charley Braum wrote:
> >     "They are STILL dangerous after their 5th 'birthday'"
> >
> >     Is there documented proof that 5 year old tires are going to explode,
> > delaminate, separate the tread, fall off the wheel or perform some other
> > destructive operation at that time limitation?
> >
> >
> I know the 5 year old tires on my 59 were a real mess on the way out to
> Carlisle this year.
> Of course it was raining as usual on the PA Pike at night. The 58 was in
> front of me and he had no problems with his 1 year old tires.
> I bought new tires for the trip to MO and they made a world of difference.
> Both cars are garaged.
> My A40 had 8 or 9 year old tires on it, Tread was still fine, maybe
> 10,000 miles on the tires at best.
> I put new tires on it (skinnier) and again, a world of difference.
> Tires for our little cars are cheap, don't get 80,000 mile tread life
> tires unless you are putting 20,000 miles a year on it.
> Stock tires are $100 a set, that's $20 a year for tires.
> Along these lines, also replace the rubber brake hoses every 10 years no
> matter what.
> If you bought new ones in 1998 and never finished the restoration, throw
> them out NOW and buy new ones.
> Hoses are dated these days, dating started in the mid 70s or so. The
> Holy Sprite had new brake hoses on it dated 1976, they looked perfect
> and the car has not seen the road since 1978, We cut them and tossed them.
> The last thing you want is a popped brake hose on the freeway during a
> panic stop. You don't even want to experience this
> going down your driveway into the street.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Tue Sep  2 23:13:16 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:13:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1>
	<48BDED39.4000306@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0809022146g2e06321cp833ea2f86a6e11c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4656FB81BCB346CBA5023BDE7C2395BF@DBKF4T81>

Tire Rack tech article:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138

Reviews the variables and cites variou recommendations:
The British Rubber Manufacturers Association: "... unused tyres should not 
be put into service if they are over six years old and that all tyres should 
be replaced ten years from the date of their manufacture."

The Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers Association: "... vehicle tires 
promptly inspected after five years of use to determine if the tires can 
continue to be used ... all tires (including spare tires) that were made 
more than ten years ago be replaced with new tires."

"... the U.S. divisions of DaimlerChrysler and Ford Motor Company joined 
their European colleagues in 2005 by recommending the tires installed as 
Original Equipment be replaced after six years of service."

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Sep  3 01:48:07 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:48:07 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEJBDBAA.shop@justbrits.com><8924940B61EF499EAA7AF21E4229BBD5@universal1><48BDED39.4000306@comcast.net><43840a7e0809022146g2e06321cp833ea2f86a6e11c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4656FB81BCB346CBA5023BDE7C2395BF@DBKF4T81>
Message-ID: <023CA4D0EE9A4B16B767342B786CE0E3@TAIRS>

Peter,
The below is an excellent review of recommendations round the world.

Six years, Five years and Six years.  Although I would put less weight on 
the Ford and Chrysler recommendations than the Tyre and Rubber Association 
ones.  This is not a   5year - 1day =good and 5yr +1day=bad   situation, it 
depends on the use, the storage, the conditions it has been kept in etc etc.

If you keep a tyre on a car 5 years (or so), inflated and don't rotate the 
ground contact patch but otherwise keep it in ideal conditions it will 
crease and get a flat spot.  OK for display but bad for driving.  Move the 
tyre round fairly frequently it will be OK.  Jack the car up on blocks it 
will be OK

Five years is a good time to have an in depth check wether your tyre has 
been used or not.  Look for the little cracks and crazing on the sidewall 
where it flexes under a static load, the little lines or cracks in the 
grooves at the bottom of the tread.  Wrinkles and splits where the side wall 
meets the wheel rim, they are aging signs and it is time to get new.

Strong sunshire, exposure to arc welding flash, ozone gas, even some tyre 
wall polishes and paints(!) all go towards aging rubber.  However, it is not 
a case of weld near a tyre and it will fail the next time you use it - the 
sky isn't falling down! - but it will age it faster.

Guy R Day




---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Shull" <pdx.pete at verizon.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 155sr-13 tires


> Tire Rack tech article:

> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=138
> Reviews the variables and cites variou recommendations:
> The British Rubber Manufacturers Association: "... unused tyres should not
> be put into service if they are over six years old and that all tyres 
> should
> be replaced ten years from the date of their manufacture."
>
> The Japan Automobile Tire Manufacturers Association: "... vehicle tires
> promptly inspected after five years of use to determine if the tires can
> continue to be used ... all tires (including spare tires) that were made
> more than ten years ago be replaced with new tires."
>
> "... the U.S. divisions of DaimlerChrysler and Ford Motor Company joined
> their European colleagues in 2005 by recommending the tires installed as
> Original Equipment be replaced after six years of service."

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep  3 07:27:45 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:27:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Baked Alaska a'la Tutone
References: <815425.60307.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D583F4D338654E87AFD523B25F63EF3B@Larry>

I really like Steve Dudley's Porsche 904-6.  Plus, he's a pretty decent guy 
(he used to be one of my doctors).  A few years ago, when I still had my 911 
and he had one, too, he tried to talk me into buying his Formula Atlantic. 
His wife decided open wheels are too dangerous after seeing one too many bad 
crashes.  I was soooo tempted.

He has one heck of a nice collection of Porsches and Ferraris.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <team-thicko at autox.team.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Baked Alaska a'la Tutone


Check out the Kohler/Redman photo gallery - among the McLarens and Ferraris, 
a nice shot of Tutone's Sprite at the Elkhart Lake Concours (curiously 
absent is one of those "Alaska: Coldest weather, hottest Governor" bumper 
stickers). Also a nice pic of Grant Gongoll's Bugeye at speed, and Chris 
Beebe's '53 Studebaker.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=6976

Ron
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From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed Sep  3 08:24:02 2008
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:24:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Transmission
Message-ID: <48BE9E02.2020804@cox.net>

The first gear on our midget's transmission is just about gone.  We 
either need to fit a new transmission or rebuild the one we have.

I see there's a Datsun 210 transmission on ebay, supposedly with the 
Rivergate kit, though there doesn't seem to be mention of any of the 
components. I suspect it's just the transmission.

Both the Rivergate, and Morrisservice kits seem to be good choices.

Is rebuilding the transmission hard or tricky? Does anyone want to sell 
a transmission in good shape?

Any advice appreciated.

We're in San Diego, if that makes a difference.

Thanks,
Dave Ambrose

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Sep  3 08:35:55 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:35:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Transmission
References: <48BE9E02.2020804@cox.net>
Message-ID: <661894C423E844469A3E01BA0A7FCD01@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Datsun transmissions aren't that hard to rebuild.  I've got one spread 
across my bench as we speak.  Be careful of the three little fingers that 
grip the synchros.  Subtle wear can cause a shift to become crunchy without 
much of a change in the appearance of the synchro bits.  GET THE DATSUN 
MANUAL FIRST.

Glen

> The first gear on our midget's transmission is just about gone.  We
> either need to fit a new transmission or rebuild the one we have.
>
> I see there's a Datsun 210 transmission on ebay, supposedly with the
> Rivergate kit, though there doesn't seem to be mention of any of the
> components. I suspect it's just the transmission.
>
> Both the Rivergate, and Morrisservice kits seem to be good choices.
>
> Is rebuilding the transmission hard or tricky? Does anyone want to sell
> a transmission in good shape?
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> We're in San Diego, if that makes a difference.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep  3 09:27:59 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Transmission
References: <48BE9E02.2020804@cox.net>
	<661894C423E844469A3E01BA0A7FCD01@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <F7DEB7D78DAA4F40BEDAEC17D3A1307D@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Datsun transmissions aren't that hard to rebuild.  I've got one spread
> across my bench as we speak.  Be careful of the three little fingers that
> grip the synchros.  Subtle wear can cause a shift to become crunchy 
> without
> much of a change in the appearance of the synchro bits.  GET THE DATSUN
> MANUAL FIRST.

Also beware of the vent tube on the top ;-)
BTW, the manual can be downloaded at
http://www.rivergate5speed.com/transmission_book_300dpi.pdf
David Lieb 

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  3 11:37:40 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:37:40 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] LAST CALL - BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6
 & 7, 2008
Message-ID: <7656155.1220463460260.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

WEBSITE:
         www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

THE BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008
The Weekend Of Saturday & Sunday * Sept. 6th & 7th

Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Brisbane Marina at
Sierra
Point. Over 300 quirky, classic, and lovable British cars will once again
gather
in the Bay Area for our 31st Annual British Car Meet. Don't have a show car?
Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress
are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. This is essentially the old Palo
Alto
British Meet in a new location. We are also expecting another great display of
automotive
oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for
free.

SUNDAY SHOW - BRISBANE MARINA - SEPTEMBER 7th

Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The food will be
handled
by the Brisbane Lions Club and the Sierra Point Yacht Club will open their
doors
on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down breakfast Herb Gibson's Jazz Orchestra
will be back again, set up just outside the Yacht Club. There is no
preregistration.
There will be marque awards in over 15 classes and all entrants will receive a
commemorative gift. The registration fee is $25 per car at the gate.

SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th

The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Brisbane Marina boathouse
(the
same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea.
Itbs
no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them.
We
will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM.  A detailed map will be
provided.
The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking
tyres
and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon.

Call for information:  310-392-6605
e-mail:  <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net>

DIRECTIONS:

The Brisbane Marina is located just east of the Bayshore Freeway
(101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just
take the Brisbane/Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the
Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site.

LODGING ALTERNATIVES:

BEST DEAL! Right at the Brisbane  Marina. The Radisson, very upscale, business
type
hotel with gourmet restaurant. We have special British Car Meet rate of $109
per
night, Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Address, 5000 Sierra Point Parkway,
Brisbane,
phone 415-467-4400. Ask for the British Car  eet rates.

From bvsprite at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  3 12:31:54 2008
From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BE rear brakes up-grade
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10809022142q7eb5aabem54d04656059b2f56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <997656.43778.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Herb,

I 'upgraded' to later midget brakes using the backing plates, and parking
brake actuating rods off a '78 midget. The only problem I ran into was the 
brake drums rubbed on the new backing plates. I had to have about 1/16 inch
machined off the back of the drums. It appears that the mounting location of
the later 1/2 leaf axles is slightly different than the early 1/4 leaf axles.

Regards,
Bryan

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] BE rear brakes up-grade
To: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 9:42 PM

Guys and Gals,

Anyone up-graded their Bugeye rear brakes with later model brakes?

Worth the effort and cost?

Thanks,

Herb
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Sep  3 12:45:50 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 14:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of  reunion.com
In-Reply-To: <185402.23102.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <090220082042.888.48BDA53D000A2ABD0000037822230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<185402.23102.qm@web53809.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403DCA2D1@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Oh, darn!  And you sounded sooo CUTE!

-----Original Message-----
From: bv [mailto:bvsprite at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 5:02 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Beware of reunion.com

Folks,

I did NOT send out messages to anyone on the list, so please don't
respond to it, and please ignore.
And BEWARE of the Reunion.com web site. I happen to be looking for
someone, and apparently 'Reunion .com' has some kind of spy bot, that
reads your email address book, and automatically sends out a spam
message to all the entries (ie spridgets at autox.team.net), so be very
careful of this web site.

I apologize for the SPAM.

Regards,
Bryan


--- On Tue, 9/2/08, tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:
From: tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:42 PM

tinydog sez:

You can eat spam, but it's not a good idea to respond to it.
 -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson"
<bmwwxman at gmail.com>: --------------


> None of us are on Reunion.com.  You must be confused, Bryan.  To find
us
you
> have to go to ReOnion.com
>
> Where did this chump come from??
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Bryan Vandiver  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please
connect with
> > me so we can keep in touch.
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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Wed Sep  3 14:06:06 2008
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (James F Juhas)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
References: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48BEEE2E.1000202@snet.net>

I have an Emglo compressor about that size and have been able to drive a 
1/2" impact wrench sufficiently well to change wheels on my MGA.  They 
torque only to 60 pounds anyway, and there's some delay for the 
compressor to rebuild pressure, but it works.  We took it to Pocono 
where we get to use the garage for paddock space so there was a place to 
plug it in.  Made me feel like a big time racer!

Tires it will do all day long, and it's especially good for nail guns, 
staplers and the like.  That's what it's really designed for.

Jim

chuck wrote:
> Hey Guyz ... every so often my credit card company sez I
> have accumulated a bunch of "points" and need to do something
> with them. Rarely is there anything I want, but .....
>
> This time there is a Campbell Hausfeld 2-Gal. Air Compressor up to 100 psi.
>
> I know, not very wonderful, ... but ... it's free!
>
> Would something like this inflate car tires (30ps1) and bicycle tires 
> (90psi)??
>
> chuck
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep  3 16:37:14 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:37:14 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 question
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3BE3BE8E2DEB3EF6B3F7DC85E0@phx.gbl>

Cannot answer your questions in specifics  Frank as car is in shop however, my '60 BE came with a 1098cc and stock BE clutch pedal - stock 7/8" MC. No problems.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 17:09:17 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:09:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale
Message-ID: <48BF191D.4020308@comcast.net>

This was posted to the Big Healey list. I didn't see in on
the Spridgets list, so thought I'd pass it along.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

--- cut here ---

Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:48:14 -0600
From: "Dave Porter" <frogeye at porterscustom.com>

A "project" car.
- 1960 Austin Healy Sprite
- Project car in a state of partial disassembly, with 2 engines and original
tranny ...
- $2,500 obo   (consider trade against a clean, older Miata) ...
- Contact Scott White @ 450-1027 or 828-9130 ...
Pictures available at PeterScottWhite at aol.com

I have no financial stake in the car.
  I have personally inspected the car and it IS as shown in the pictures from
Scott.
Please direct your purchase questions to him,
Thanks! Dave

frogeye at porterscustom.com

Porter Customs
Albuquerque, NM USA 87107
505-352-1378
1954 BN2
Porter Custom Bicycles
www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 17:44:21 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:44:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BE rear brakes up-grade
In-Reply-To: <997656.43778.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <997656.43778.qm@web53808.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48BF2155.9060201@comcast.net>

bv wrote:
> Herb,
>
> I 'upgraded' to later midget brakes using the backing plates, and parking
> brake actuating rods off a '78 midget. The only problem I ran into was the 
> brake drums rubbed on the new backing plates. I had to have about 1/16 inch
> machined off the back of the drums. It appears that the mounting location of
> the later 1/2 leaf axles is slightly different than the early 1/4 leaf axles.
>
>
>   
Exactly what Bryan said. But I just used a grinder to take a tad off the 
inside edge of the brake drums.
I have converted a few to the later brakes. My 58, two59s, 60, and the 
59 Austin A40.
At first I thought the brake drums were just a bit thicker from the 
early cars but it is just a slight difference in how the back plates mount.




-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Sep  3 17:45:04 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:45:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Really, really bad tires for sale
Message-ID: <F846356787B748F18D28C621CCDAB9B8@universal1>

    I have four Goodyear Eagle racing slicks taken off a Bugeye last
campaigned in the early '90's.

    I guess that would bring the five-year rule into effect for tires.

    They (or one) might make a nice display in, in front of, or behind, a
garage. Or if the 'boss' is in Europe or Asia for a spell, put them in the
den!

    I can deliver later this month to Tom's River, NJ or later in the year to
the Detroit area.

    Proceeds to the Holy Sprite fund - photos on request.

    Thanks,

                                                                            C
B

From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep  3 17:51:41 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:51:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale
In-Reply-To: <48BF191D.4020308@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080903195141.D7LBP.785057.root@mp13>

Me thinks that be a box Sprite not a Frogeye

---- Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote: 
> This was posted to the Big Healey list. I didn't see in on
> the Spridgets list, so thought I'd pass it along.
> 
> -- 
> Kent McLean
> '56 100 BN2
> 
> --- cut here ---
> 
> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:48:14 -0600
> From: "Dave Porter" <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> 
> A "project" car.
> - 1960 Austin Healy Sprite
> - Project car in a state of partial disassembly, with 2 engines and original
> tranny ...
> - $2,500 obo   (consider trade against a clean, older Miata) ...
> - Contact Scott White @ 450-1027 or 828-9130 ...
> Pictures available at PeterScottWhite at aol.com
> 
> I have no financial stake in the car.
>   I have personally inspected the car and it IS as shown in the pictures from
> Scott.
> Please direct your purchase questions to him,
> Thanks! Dave
> 
> frogeye at porterscustom.com
> 
> Porter Customs
> Albuquerque, NM USA 87107
> 505-352-1378
> 1954 BN2
> Porter Custom Bicycles
> www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep  3 18:12:46 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:12:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080903195141.D7LBP.785057.root@mp13>
Message-ID: <C4E4760E.196DE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Me thinks that be a box Sprite not a Frogeye
But is it off the frame? Them big Healey guys is clever.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 18:16:39 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:16:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Single M/C pipe routing question
In-Reply-To: <48BD9D5C.7668.2E7370F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48BD9D5C.7668.2E7370F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48BF28E7.9090603@comcast.net>

Both brake and clutch pipes ran from the master on the upper side of the 
firewall and then down along the pedal box blanking plate.
there are (were) 4 clips that screwed through the firewall, they were 
offset just a little from each other and they also run over/under one 
another.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 18:46:53 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:46:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Dead battery and alternator?
Message-ID: <090420080046.27800.48BF2FFD000579DE00006C9822165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

I left my lights on when I went to work this morning and needed a jump to get started inorder to get home.  I drove 35 minutes home on and off of highways at 3500-4000rpm.  I stopped to get a haircut andd then couldn't get the car started again without another jump.  I have no idea how old the battery is (from previous owner) but shouldn't the alternator have recharged the battery enough to start the car in that time?

So i am planning on replacing the battery at pep boys tomorrow but what about the alternator?
Thanks
Ryan

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep  3 18:57:05 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:57:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Grounding steering column
Message-ID: <F88216DFCD1D4F898A346F230341E977@Home>

For a time while working on my horn wiring, I lost the ground connection between the lower and upper parts of my inner steering column - at the collapsing point with two plastic shear pins, not at the lower connection (?pinion?).  I thought I might have to solder a wire between the two parts.  Any other less hokey suggestions? 

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep  3 19:01:29 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:01:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Grounding steering column
In-Reply-To: <F88216DFCD1D4F898A346F230341E977@Home>
References: <F88216DFCD1D4F898A346F230341E977@Home>
Message-ID: <07398400C4D345749324A0FA64B61B80@spider>

Maybe a wire and two hose clamps and sandpaper the contact points; I can't
solder. ...bill
==================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 5:57 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Grounding steering column

For a time while working on my horn wiring, I lost the ground connection
between the lower and upper parts of my inner steering column - at the
collapsing point with two plastic shear pins, not at the lower connection
(?pinion?).  I thought I might have to solder a wire between the two parts.
Any other less hokey suggestions? 

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
_______________________________________________

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Sep  3 19:02:31 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:02:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
Message-ID: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>

My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6 
engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it 
running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with 
the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is 
in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the 
procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from 
the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the 
first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the 
electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm 
what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha 
One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem 
to find anything on line about operating the engine.

Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long 
weekend.

Mark
Nashville

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep  3 19:07:09 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:07:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
In-Reply-To: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <2FDA3CAE020C47B7B755F7A0875C74CB@spider>

Use starting fluid. My lawn mower is the same way. ...bill
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:03 PM
To: shop-talk at autox.team.net; Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3

My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6 
engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it 
running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with 
the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is 
in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the 
procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from 
the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the 
first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the

electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm 
what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha 
One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem

to find anything on line about operating the engine.

Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long 
weekend.

Mark
Nashville
_______________________________________________

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Sep  3 19:12:48 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:12:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <D80700ED9FBC43BBB91EE8236A9DBFD5@Dell9200>

Make that "SHIFT mechanism"  OOPS!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
To: <shop-talk at autox.team.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3



My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it
running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with
the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is
in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the
procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from
the SHIFT mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the
first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the
electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm
what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha
One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem
to find anything on line about operating the engine.

Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long
weekend.

Mark
Nashville
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep  3 19:12:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:12:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dead battery and alternator?
In-Reply-To: <090420080046.27800.48BF2FFD000579DE00006C9822165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <090420080046.27800.48BF2FFD000579DE00006C9822165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1322691663.20080903181247@pacifier.com>

Hello ryan,

     SOMETIMES,-it happened to me TWICE with the alternator in my Ford
     Tempo- the amount of current that the battery draws when it is
     DEAD DEAD burns out the alternator! You should have it checked
     someplace where they do free electrical system testing. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  "If the shoe fits, buy it." Imelda Marcos 

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Sep  3 19:14:59 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:14:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <AF29245034D448D08BD9AF408F309D6E@universal1>

    "It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from
the shit mechanism "

    Maybe you should wipe the " " mechanism?


                                                                            C
B

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep  3 19:18:51 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:18:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Mercruiser 4.3
Message-ID: <A9CE6089CE454EE8A53F830ED3DB936D@spider>

How old is the gas? ...bill
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:03 PM
To: shop-talk at autox.team.net; Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep  3 19:19:09 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
In-Reply-To: <2FDA3CAE020C47B7B755F7A0875C74CB@spider>
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
	<2FDA3CAE020C47B7B755F7A0875C74CB@spider>
Message-ID: <48BF378D.7020303@frontiernet.net>

It sounds to me like the engine might be full of shit. 

Kate
>  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from 
> the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control. 

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 19:21:45 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:21:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale
In-Reply-To: <20080903195141.D7LBP.785057.root@mp13>
References: <20080903195141.D7LBP.785057.root@mp13>
Message-ID: <48BF3829.8010705@comcast.net>

bighealey at charter.net wrote:
> Me thinks that be a box Sprite not a Frogeye
> 
> ---- Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote: 
>> A "project" car.
>> - 1960 Austin Healy Sprite

I was just passing it along.  But I see "1960". I didn't think the
box Sprites appeared until '62, along with the Mk 1 Midget.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 19:58:37 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:58:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] steering column bolts
Message-ID: <090420080158.19455.48BF40CD0007B84D00004BFF22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

when looking at the steering column from the driver side foot well up at the steering column there are 3 bolts.  Two you can feel the nut and the bolt but on the 3rd (closest to the passenger side) mine is loose and will not tighten.  What does this bolt to? and is it a problem that mine is not connected to anything?
ryan

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep  3 20:34:33 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:34:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <3623B131A7034D858841B295072FE04E@blackbox2>

Here's the starting sequence that I do on an alpha one with a 350ci engine.

1) Lower the drive if in deep enough water.
2) Press the button in to disengage the forward/reverse engagement.
3) The carb has an accelerator pump.  Pump the handle 4-6 times into the forward direction and then back to neutral.  This primes 
the engine.
4) I then move the handle forward  to the 10-11 o'clock position.  The button is still in and the drive is still disengaged.
5) Turn the starter key.
6) Engine starts
7) Adjust throttle as required for a nice warm up fast idle.
8) After about 25-40 seconds return to neural and it should hold the low steady idle.
9) Engage, Bon Voyage, etc..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
To: <shop-talk at autox.team.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3


> My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
> engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it
> running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with
> the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is
> in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the
> procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from
> the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the
> first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the
> electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm
> what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha
> One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem
> to find anything on line about operating the engine.
>
> Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long
> weekend.
>
> Mark
> Nashville
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From lincman90 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep  3 21:01:53 2008
From: lincman90 at hotmail.com (Tom Daughdrill)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:01:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU146-W16437D58E9AD2B5B8F8AB9AC590@phx.gbl>

Well, I'm just reading this because I did get the hell outta Dodge-on Sunday!
I'm in south Louisiana, about 8 miles north of Lake Ponchartrain.  First thing
on the "get out" list was to properly store my Midget!

I'm quite glad we "missed the bullet"!

Tom> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:15:32 -0500> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Spridgets]
Gustav> > All you folks in Louisiana, east Texas, southwestern Arkansas and>
southeastern Oklahoma good luck and stay safe.... I've been looking at the>
models and the data and the present forecast track for Gustav looks pretty>
reasonable for the next 60 hours. If you are in the south Louisiana delta>
area I hope you are already getting the hell outta Dodge. The rest of the>
area is going to see a LOT of rain and at least some wind as the storm moves>
to near Center, TX by Wednesday morning and then drifts west toward the area>
south of Tyler, TX to die.> >
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/144814.shtml?5day#contents>
> Ya'll stay safe!!> -- > Cheers!!> Jim>
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Sep  3 21:13:22 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 23:13:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
	<3623B131A7034D858841B295072FE04E@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <037301c90e3c$301ddd60$6401a8c0@refisk>

Mark,

Sea Ray has owner's manuals available online.  Enter the year and model of
the boat and you can download the manual - free!  We tight.

http://www.searay.com/owners_manuals.asp

Rick


> > My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
> > engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it ...........

From richb at u.washington.edu  Wed Sep  3 21:48:50 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard  Ball)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:48:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3 Choke and Startin Procedure
Message-ID: <C8981A36AD744B519D1906129D874B6F@richandsusan>

Mark

My dad is a Mercruiser mechanic here in Seattle, so I just asked him about
your friends problem.  The first thing he asked was whether the engine smoked
black smoke when it started or not.  Apparently the 4.3's all seem to run
rich.  If so you need to lean out the electric choke.  More on that later.

The starting procedure is as follows.  With the engine off move the shifter to
neutral and disengage the shifter from the throttle with the lock button below
the shifter.  Move the throttle forward and then back to center like you would
tap the accelerator on your carbureted car before starting.  Move the throttle
slightly forward of center again and crank the engine.  It should start.  If
not go through the procedure of tapping the throttle forward three times in
quick succession.  then move the throttle slightly forward and crank again.
You can flood it if you move it forward to many times, so only use three if
you have to.

OK back to the choke.  To lean out the choke loosen the three screws holding
the black plastic disk to the choke body(Torx 15 if memory serves?).  It
should be marked rich and lean.  Rotate towards lean until the butterfly is
almost closed. The pointer mark will probably be off the scale, but that's OK.
This of course has to be done on a cold engine.

If it doesn't smoke and is not running rich then you need to look at the
timing.  This engine may or may not have a knock sensor, so He should pick up
a service manual before taking that on.

Remind your neighbor that this is not his fuel injected computer controlled
car, but still has a carb and need a little finesse to start.  Also, if he is
new to boating tell him to get that thing winterized BEFORE the weather
freezes.  Exhaust manifold risers are EXPENSIVE (several hundred a piece) to
replace and crake easily if not drained properly.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA


-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------
My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it
running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with
the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is
in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the
procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from
the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the
first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the
electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm
what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha
One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem
to find anything on line about operating the engine.

Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long
weekend.

Mark

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 21:52:56 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 21:52:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
In-Reply-To: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809032052h491d2f4au5e3b760f48b62ca4@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:

My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
engine.

I have an 89 Baha Cruisers 280 XLE with twin small block Chevys. I pull the
throttle levers (Morse controls) out to disengage the shift mechanism and
pump them all the way 4 times. Then I crank the starter. If it has been
sitting for a while I will pump the lever back and forth as I crank it. Due
to the age of the boat the carbs probably leak down while it sits requiring
it to get some fuel pressure as it cranks. Could be the same with your
buddy's boat. It fires right up when I get to it more often but requires a
little cranking and pumping if it sits for 2 weeks at a time. Been that way
since I got it in 1991.

He should also change the rotor, cap and plugs every 16 years or so... Ask
me how I know.
  --
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  3 22:00:26 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:00:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] steering column bolts
In-Reply-To: <090420080158.19455.48BF40CD0007B84D00004BFF22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <090420080158.19455.48BF40CD0007B84D00004BFF22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809032100t62a7b43dn68f48395fab55435@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:58 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

when looking at the steering column from the driver side foot well up at the
steering column there are 3 bolts.  Two you can feel the nut and the bolt
but on the 3rd (closest to the passenger side) mine is loose and will not
tighten.  What does this bolt to? and is it a problem that mine is not
connected to anything?
Ryan,

Two of the three have the nuts under the dash. The third one has a nut under
the bonnet. You can reach both by yourself when the bonnet is off... You
also might be able to do it by yourself with the bonnet on but I am not sure
since the last time I pulled a column the bonnet was off. Put a ratchet on
the bolt under the dash and watch for a nut turning under the bonnet.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Sep  4 08:26:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:26:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Dead battery and alternator?
References: <090420080046.27800.48BF2FFD000579DE00006C9822165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0AD5A651D59742368C1847B54ABD4D8D@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I left my lights on when I went to work this morning and needed a jump to 
>get started inorder to get home.  I drove 35 minutes home on and off of 
>highways at 3500-4000rpm.  I stopped to get a haircut andd then couldn't 
>get the car started again without another jump.  I have no idea how old the 
>battery is (from previous owner) but shouldn't the alternator have 
>recharged the battery enough to start the car in that time?

Ryan,
A bad battery can kill a good alternator and a bad alternator can kill a 
good battery. Also, some batteries (especially Exide and Mopar in my 
experience), when completely discharged will not recover completely. 
Frequently one cell will lose its ability to hold a charge. Put a charger on 
it for a while, then disconnect the charger and check the voltage across the 
posts. Should be about 13.2VDC. Then hit the starter once and then measure 
the voltage across the posts again. If it has dropped to about 10.5VDC or 
lower, you have one or more cells that do not hold a charge. Replace the 
battery.

OTOH, it is perfectly possible that you blew the alternator in the process 
of jump starting the car twice. If you can jump or push start the car, rev 
it up to 2000rpm and see what the battery voltage across the posts is. If it 
is around 14.5VDC or so, the alternator is probably happy. Otherwise, pull 
it off and see if Pep Boys will test it for you. I know Murrays and AutoZone 
will.
David Lieb 

From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Sep  4 10:25:20 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:25:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Dead battery and alternator?
Message-ID: <20080904.092520.23464.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

This topic reminded me of a solution learned from riding old motorcycles.
Frequently a battery would "fail" due to sulfating (sulfate build-up causing a
short between the plates of two cells), which resulted from letting the water
get too low, too many times.  The answer was to pull the battery off and bang
it on the curb a couple of times.  This knocked the deposits off and would
allow me to get home.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

-- "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>I left my lights on when I went to work this morning and needed a jump to
>get started inorder to get home.  I drove 35 minutes home on and off of
>highways at 3500-4000rpm.  I stopped to get a haircut andd then couldn't
>get the car started again without another jump.  I have no idea how old the
>battery is (from previous owner) but shouldn't the alternator have
>recharged the battery enough to start the car in that time?

Ryan,
A bad battery can kill a good alternator and a bad alternator can kill a
good battery. Also, some batteries (especially Exide and Mopar in my
experience), when completely discharged will not recover completely.
Frequently one cell will lose its ability to hold a charge. Put a charger on
it for a while, then disconnect the charger and check the voltage across the
posts. Should be about 13.2VDC. Then hit the starter once and then measure
the voltage across the posts again. If it has dropped to about 10.5VDC or
lower, you have one or more cells that do not hold a charge. Replace the
battery.

OTOH, it is perfectly possible that you blew the alternator in the process
of jump starting the car twice. If you can jump or push start the car, rev
it up to 2000rpm and see what the battery voltage across the posts is. If it
is around 14.5VDC or so, the alternator is probably happy. Otherwise, pull
it off and see if Pep Boys will test it for you. I know Murrays and AutoZone
will.
David Lieb
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  4 11:04:59 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:04:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>

Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?

They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread depth.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg

RD
the SA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  4 11:07:05 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:07:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] a NY moment - no lbc
Message-ID: <BAY112-F400D2437BBEEEAD1041D2EB8590@phx.gbl>

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080904/K090406AU.html

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 11:07:21 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:07:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809041007he4efefv3213ed30a6039068@mail.gmail.com>

I dunno, I think you should put them through an autocross test first!!

LOL

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?
>
> They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread depth.
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg
>
> RD
> the SA
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  4 11:09:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:09:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090809041007he4efefv3213ed30a6039068@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36BC01B32843A794F2CE20B8590@phx.gbl>

I guess that wouldn't be too dangerous, since it's a Flinstonemobile.  ( no 
engine, not much in the way of floors. )

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

I dunno, I think you should put them through an autocross test first!!

LOL

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

 > Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?
 >
 > They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread 
depth.
 >
 > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
 > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg
 >
 > RD
 > the SA



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From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 11:17:57 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 89 Sea Ray
Message-ID: <473085.44143.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark,
 
On our '89 Sea Ray Choke is mechanical. Can't really help on this one but be
aware there is a ballast resistor on the coil. 12 VDC at start and about
8-9VDC running. My procedure is simply pull throttle sideways to take out of
gear, depress once to set choke and leave slightly advanced. Start engine with
hand on throttle to retard. Go skiing.
 
We had rebuilt engine installed and the stupid yahoo installed without ballast
resistor in place. Engine ran like a scalded dog until coils melted down.
After the fourth one and getting towed in 3 times, a competent mechanic gave
me the secret. Ballast resistor is little tiny thing connected to + side of
the coil. Look for it, it should be there. There is a Start Relay that feeds
12 VDC to the coil that is actualted when the key is turned to start position.
Otherwide 8-9VDC is fed to the coil.  
 
I was able to find a Motors MAnual on Mercruiser complete with Wiring Diagram
at the local library.   

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 11:41:47 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:41:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FFAC3D09-D99B-4951-A46C-5D26B263FD35@comcast.net>

So *THAT'S* where the wire in wire wheel comes from, wire tires for  
wire wheels.. yeah.. that's it..

Lester

On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?
>
> They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread  
> depth.
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg
>
> RD
> the SA

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 11:42:44 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:42:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0A394231-38E9-4999-83D2-6DA355DC5608@comcast.net>

Sorry, I forgot the stock answer.. oh yeah, they're fine, they all do  
that...

Lester

On Sep 4, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?
>
> They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread  
> depth.
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg
>
> RD
> the SA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  4 12:14:44 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:14:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
Message-ID: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>

FRom "Winding Road":
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5a9qjp
or
http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/MailView?ms=MTE5MjAwOAS2&r=ODE1NDgzNTQ5NwS2&j=MTI0NTY1MDUxS0&mt=1&rt=0

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 12:54:59 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:54:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <52476512-8A52-428C-89A7-4BED8BA74A42@comcast.net>

It's interesting to have it on and just hold the phone, slight  
changes in you hand will read on the skidpad.. ;-)

Lester


On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> FRom "Winding Road":
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5a9qjp
> or
> http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/MailView? 
> ms=MTE5MjAwOAS2&r=ODE1NDgzNTQ5NwS2&j=MTI0NTY1MDUxS0&mt=1&rt=0

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 13:02:41 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:02:41 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
Message-ID: <090420081902.29049.48C030D10009066C000071792215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Larry,
Did you get this yet?

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> 

> FRom "Winding Road": 
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5a9qjp 
> or 
> http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/MailView?ms=MTE5MjAwOAS2&r=ODE1NDgzNTQ5NwS2&j=MTI0N 
> TY1MDUxS0&mt=1&rt=0 
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  4 13:13:56 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:13:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <52476512-8A52-428C-89A7-4BED8BA74A42@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36DB5D275FA09097EEC5BDB8590@phx.gbl>

I don't have and don't plan to acquire an iphone ... especially if my 
twisted thinking could be recorded on this app.

;)


----Original Message Follows----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>

It's interesting to have it on and just hold the phone, slight
changes in you hand will read on the skidpad.. ;-)

Lester


On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

 > FRom "Winding Road":
 > http://preview.tinyurl.com/5a9qjp
 > or
 > http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/MailView?
 > ms=MTE5MjAwOAS2&r=ODE1NDgzNTQ5NwS2&j=MTI0NTY1MDUxS0&mt=1&rt=0

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Sep  4 13:22:39 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:22:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
References: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E7F3E45D939848B0A28E24EFE81CF84F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

For $13, you can download an application called "Dynolicious" from the 
I-tunes store that takes full advantage of the accelerometer.  According to 
what I've read so far, it outperforms the G-Tech Pro as an in-car 
dynomometer.  Its results compare quite closely with the time slip from a 
dragstrip.  My phone contract expires in Oct. and I plan on getting an 
I-phone partly because of this application.

Glen Byrns (gadget junky) 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 13:52:19 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:52:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <E7F3E45D939848B0A28E24EFE81CF84F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>
	<E7F3E45D939848B0A28E24EFE81CF84F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <22D800D1-2DBC-4FD2-9AB4-9026D3ED211B@comcast.net>

Glen,

don't forget that you can get a used iPhone Edge, use it as a gadget  
and not a phone, and still run most of the apps.  or you can  
"jailbreak" it and use it as a phone on another carrier or so I've  
heard...



lester


On Sep 4, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Glen Byrns wrote:

> For $13, you can download an application called "Dynolicious" from the
> I-tunes store that takes full advantage of the accelerometer.   
> According to
> what I've read so far, it outperforms the G-Tech Pro as an in-car
> dynomometer.  Its results compare quite closely with the time slip  
> from a
> dragstrip.  My phone contract expires in Oct. and I plan on getting an
> I-phone partly because of this application.
>
> Glen Byrns (gadget junky)

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Sep  4 13:40:21 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:40:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <090420081902.29049.48C030D10009066C000071792215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <090420081902.29049.48C030D10009066C000071792215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E536D16D-80D7-4BF4-9CE8-280487D036CE@phillymgclub.com>

Yes I have it. Haven't played a lot yet tho.

Larry

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

On Sep 4, 2008, at 3:02 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> Larry,
> Did you get this yet?
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>
>> FRom "Winding Road":
>> http://preview.tinyurl.com/5a9qjp
>> or
>> http://recp.rm05.net/servlet/MailView?ms=MTE5MjAwOAS2&r=ODE1NDgzNTQ5NwS2&j=MTI0N
>> TY1MDUxS0&mt=1&rt=0
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Sep  4 14:11:12 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:11:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
Message-ID: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>

I just got my first good look at the line leading to the clutch slave cylinder...

Somebody tell me I'm not going senile and that there is supposed to be a flexible 
line going from the slave cylinder and then connected somewhere to the hard 
line!!

If I'm right, then the DPO is definetly a DPO and has connected the hard line 
directly from the master cylinder to the slave cylinder...  

I think this may be the a safety concern, and that I should re-do it?? 

If so, can anybody give me a list of what bits and pieces I'm going to have to buy 
from Mo$$ Motor$ to do it right??

TIA

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 14:20:40 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39CE988F3089E33DFFD4E6B8590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <722799.95562.qm@web51910.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sure, Just be sure your life, health, etc.. insurance premiums are up to date, and you pray harder than you play!

--- On Thu, 9/4/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: [Spridgets] tires sitting too long
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 12:04 PM

Do you figure these have been sitting too long to safely drive on?

They still hold air ( 7 years, so far ) and seem to have good tread depth.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081658.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/090320081659.jpg

RD
the SA
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Sep  4 14:39:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:39:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <48BFE509.26686.17ED000@dmg.bossig.com>

My sincere and heartfelt thanks to all those who (very quickly) replied...

My BP and heart rate are now dropping towards normal...  Whew!!

Thanks again....   ;^))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Sep  4 15:58:56 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:58:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>

After reading a few more replies..

A bit more information on this har clutch line thingy..,..if you don't mind ;-\

The body is a very early '65 - wind up windows but with the totally removeable 
top.
The engine probably originally *was* a 1098 (or 1198) with a smooth case 
tranny.
But now the beast has a 1275cc with a ribcage tranny...
I've had two replies that said "leave it" and two rplies that said"put a flex line 
in"....

So.... should I re-engineer it to have a flex line?? Or should I just replace the 
butchered hard line with a new one from the M/C to the slave?

I don't have enough experience with spridget hydraulics to make the decision 
on my own.....

I'll go with the majority opinion...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 16:49:29 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:49:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu> <48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809041549l28dc378al194bf34ad24c993e@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,

If you leave it, you will play merry hell the next time (and there will be a
next time) you have to pull the engine. If it were me I'd put the flex line
in. Do you have the gusset on the passenger side frame for the flex line? If
not it might be a bit tricky but still doable to install flex line. IMHO,
lack of flex line is why your hard line is buggered!  There is a reason it
was designed with a flex line and not a hard line. You've apparently found
it.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> After reading a few more replies..
>
> A bit more information on this har clutch line thingy..,..if you don't mind
> ;-\
>
> The body is a very early '65 - wind up windows but with the totally
> removeable
> top.
> The engine probably originally *was* a 1098 (or 1198) with a smooth case
> tranny.
> But now the beast has a 1275cc with a ribcage tranny...
> I've had two replies that said "leave it" and two rplies that said"put a
> flex line
> in"....
>
> So.... should I re-engineer it to have a flex line?? Or should I just
> replace the
> butchered hard line with a new one from the M/C to the slave?
>
> I don't have enough experience with spridget hydraulics to make the
> decision
> on my own.....
>
> I'll go with the majority opinion...
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!
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Jim

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep  4 17:11:43 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:11:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <1872214366.20080904161143@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     Flex line. the engine and tranny move enough that it should be
     flexed in. Unless you are going "concours" which you aren't with
     a 1275 already in, you don't need to buy ANY parts from moss. it
     should be standard hydraulic hose, clamps, etc. get it at NAPA
     and save time and $$$$ 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Computer Engineers do it bit by bit. 

From flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 17:13:34 2008
From: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com (John Gosselin)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:13:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sometimes you just have to let out the gas!
Message-ID: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Let me  start by saying I read the list daily and get a lot out of it.  On the
few occasions I have sought help, it was there for me.
 
I thought I would share a funny story.  I have a 74 midget that I have put
together from several parts cars.  It by no means is a check book restoration
but I really have a lot of fun with it.  Over the past year I have
concentrated on getting the body and front end rebuilt.  This has enabled me
to get the car past NH inspection!!
 
The engine is a different story--  It runs but rather rough.  I have to put in
about 1/2 quart weekly to replace what is lost or leaks out.  I think I should
have stock in STP (Keeps my oil pressure respectable)
Now for the funny part-- On my way to work last night I was driving along with
my usual rough and rather powerless power plant, when all of a sudden the old
girl started to buck, skip and f--t!!  Just as I was certain a phone call for
the trailer was in order she snapped out of it and is running just like a new
engine had been installed!!!  I guess sometimes you just need to let it out in
order to feel better!!
 
Thanks for all of the help and laughs on this list!!
 
Goss
 
74 born again midget!!

From pelliott at innercite.com  Thu Sep  4 17:51:28 2008
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:51:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sometimes you just have to let out the gas!
In-Reply-To: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <039401c90ee9$27adf310$7709d930$@com>

It's ok to say fart here.. most of the list members are old farts and know
all there is to know about farts...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of John Gosselin
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:14 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Sometimes you just have to let out the gas!

Let me  start by saying I read the list daily and get a lot out of it.  On
the
few occasions I have sought help, it was there for me.
 
I thought I would share a funny story.  I have a 74 midget that I have put
together from several parts cars.  It by no means is a check book
restoration
but I really have a lot of fun with it.  Over the past year I have
concentrated on getting the body and front end rebuilt.  This has enabled me
to get the car past NH inspection!!
 
The engine is a different story--  It runs but rather rough.  I have to put
in
about 1/2 quart weekly to replace what is lost or leaks out.  I think I
should
have stock in STP (Keeps my oil pressure respectable)
Now for the funny part-- On my way to work last night I was driving along
with
my usual rough and rather powerless power plant, when all of a sudden the
old
girl started to buck, skip and f--t!!  Just as I was certain a phone call
for
the trailer was in order she snapped out of it and is running just like a
new
engine had been installed!!!  I guess sometimes you just need to let it out
in
order to feel better!!
 
Thanks for all of the help and laughs on this list!!
 
Goss
 
74 born again midget!!
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep  4 18:01:24 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 17:01:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sometimes you just have to let out the gas!
In-Reply-To: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EDC2E6297A7D4156A3C9B99451318D92@spider>

A piece of dirt worked its way OUT of the fuel system? ...bill
====================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of John Gosselin
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:14 PM
On my way to work last night I was driving along with
my usual rough and rather powerless power plant, when all of a sudden the
old girl started to buck, skip and f--t!!  Just as I was certain a phone
call for the trailer was in order she snapped out of it and is running just
like a new engine had been installed!!!  I guess sometimes you just need to
let it out in order to feel better!!
 
Thanks for all of the help and laughs on this list!!
 Goss
 74 born again midget!!
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 21:54:03 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:54:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sometimes you just have to let out the gas!
In-Reply-To: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <279653.88923.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C0AD5B.3020907@comcast.net>

All the more reason to drive the cars hard and often.
So your car passed a little gas, and now, like all us old farts, we feel 
beeter after a good fart ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep  4 22:06:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:06:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Progress
Message-ID: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>

Parts and donations are still arriving almost every day.
Thanks for all the help from everybody.
the bonnet came back from the media blast shop (another freebie) and now 
that all the bondo is out, it's in real good condition
Not perfect, but better than anything I every had to work on.
I also stopped by the local sheet metal shop, I asked some pieces of 
sheet, and some square stock along with some 16 ga so the welding 
instructor who will be here 9/26 can *teach* who ever wants to learn. 
And he is a pro welder and a Vo-Tech welding teacher. He will be 
teaching mig on 16 ga and much thinner 22 ga.
And after I spoke about the Holy Sprite to the sheet metal shop they 
donated the metal too. This shop is also where Doug, the welder, learned 
his trade back in the 70s.
At night I have been glass beading and powder coating or painting some 
of the bits and pieces, I have a lot more to go.
I have to weld the rods in around the bonnet wheel openings and get some 
primer on it ASAP because it will rust being in bare metal now. So that 
is this weekend's project for me. I will not touch any dents, that is 
for you guys and the dolly set when you get here.
BTW, save up those Taco Bell wrappers for the serious problems on the 
Holy Sprite OK ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 22:22:10 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:22:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Progress
In-Reply-To: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>

   Out  here  we use Taco Time wrappers.  Much higher quality, way better
   than Taco Hell.
   Frank Clarici wrote:

BTW, save up those Taco Bell wrappers for the serious problems on the
Holy Sprite OK ;)

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep  4 22:45:32 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:45:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>

Hello William,

     Don't forget, Frank is in NEW JERSEY. They don't have a clue
     about good mexican food, the other side of the mississippi river.
     Let alone good tex-mex. they think Puerto Rican food is the same
     as Mexican. ....

     as an aside, Taco Bell invented hard shell tacos! real mex only
     uses soft shell...

     gonna weigh in on this Brad?


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind." 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep  4 22:50:19 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 23:50:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Progress
In-Reply-To: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809042150x6b06d03epbb1bdfbec01354a6@mail.gmail.com>

I'll let the rest of the crew work on the welding etc...   While you are all
doing that, I'll take care of all of the dollies!! I don't know anything
about body work but I sure know what to do with the dollies!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Parts and donations are still arriving almost every day.
> Thanks for all the help from everybody.
> the bonnet came back from the media blast shop (another freebie) and now
> that all the bondo is out, it's in real good condition
> Not perfect, but better than anything I every had to work on.
> I also stopped by the local sheet metal shop, I asked some pieces of
> sheet, and some square stock along with some 16 ga so the welding
> instructor who will be here 9/26 can *teach* who ever wants to learn.
> And he is a pro welder and a Vo-Tech welding teacher. He will be
> teaching mig on 16 ga and much thinner 22 ga.
> And after I spoke about the Holy Sprite to the sheet metal shop they
> donated the metal too. This shop is also where Doug, the welder, learned
> his trade back in the 70s.
> At night I have been glass beading and powder coating or painting some
> of the bits and pieces, I have a lot more to go.
> I have to weld the rods in around the bonnet wheel openings and get some
> primer on it ASAP because it will rust being in bare metal now. So that
> is this weekend's project for me. I will not touch any dents, that is
> for you guys and the dolly set when you get here.
> BTW, save up those Taco Bell wrappers for the serious problems on the
> Holy Sprite OK ;)
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> _______________________________________________
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>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 04:34:11 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:34:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Progress
In-Reply-To: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809050334u7f6e2adasdf87e336aafd11ad@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding the dents...

Anyone ever use a shrinking disc?  I just started playing with one
this year and I've been amazed how easy and effective it is.
Here is my example:
http://blogs.britishcarforum.com/index.php?blog=8&m=200803


Trevor

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:06 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> Parts and donations are still arriving almost every day.
> Thanks for all the help from everybody.
> the bonnet came back from the media blast shop (another freebie) and now
> that all the bondo is out, it's in real good condition
> Not perfect, but better than anything I every had to work on.
> I also stopped by the local sheet metal shop, I asked some pieces of
> sheet, and some square stock along with some 16 ga so the welding
> instructor who will be here 9/26 can *teach* who ever wants to learn.
> And he is a pro welder and a Vo-Tech welding teacher. He will be
> teaching mig on 16 ga and much thinner 22 ga.
> And after I spoke about the Holy Sprite to the sheet metal shop they
> donated the metal too. This shop is also where Doug, the welder, learned
> his trade back in the 70s.
> At night I have been glass beading and powder coating or painting some
> of the bits and pieces, I have a lot more to go.
> I have to weld the rods in around the bonnet wheel openings and get some
> primer on it ASAP because it will rust being in bare metal now. So that
> is this weekend's project for me. I will not touch any dents, that is
> for you guys and the dolly set when you get here.
> BTW, save up those Taco Bell wrappers for the serious problems on the
> Holy Sprite OK ;)
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 05:43:47 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:43:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com><6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
	<48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0809041549l28dc378al194bf34ad24c993e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>

> If you leave it, you will play merry hell the next time (and there will be 
> a
> next time) you have to pull the engine. If it were me I'd put the flex 
> line
> in. Do you have the gusset on the passenger side frame for the flex line? 
> If
> not it might be a bit tricky but still doable to install flex line. IMHO,
> lack of flex line is why your hard line is buggered!  There is a reason it
> was designed with a flex line and not a hard line. You've apparently found
> it.

But it WASN'T "designed with a flex line". The flex line didn't start until 
1967 per Horler.
To go to a flex line would require replacing the slave cylinder with a later 
model and welding a tab on the subframe to hold the end of the line. This 
car came from the factory with a hard line with a few coils near the end to 
add "flex". It will work fine that way. Someone take a picture of their 
proper hard line setup with the coils and email it to him.
David Lieb 

From miniac7 at aol.com  Fri Sep  5 06:08:53 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:08:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com><6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu>
	<48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0809041549l28dc378al194bf34ad24c993e@mail.gmail.com>
	<093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
Message-ID: <8CADD674C63E7D6-1B7C-45A@FWM-D38.sysops.aol.com>

I must be coming in late on this one, as I donlt know who's asking the question. If I can get his email address, I'd be happy to send him a few pictures of the coiled hard line.

Howard


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 7:43 am
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....



> If you leave it, you will play merry hell the next time (and there will be 
> a
> next time) you have to pull the engine. If it were me I'd put the flex 
> line
> in. Do you have the gusset on the passenger side frame for the flex line? 
> If
> not it might be a bit tricky but still doable to install flex line. IMHO,
> lack of flex line is why your hard line is buggered!  There is a reason it
> was designed with a flex line and not a hard line. You've apparently found
> it.

But it WASN'T "designed with a flex line". The flex line didn't start until 
1967 per Horler.
To go to a flex line would require replacing the slave cylinder with a later 
model and welding a tab on the subframe to hold the end of the line. This 
car came from the factory with a hard line with a few coils near the end to 
add "flex". It will work fine that way. Someone take a picture of their 
proper hard line setup with the coils and email it to him.
David Lieb 
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 06:23:19 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 07:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809050523t518d80c3t4015611e9c146c96@mail.gmail.com>

Nah.....
I prefer to keep a low profile these days....

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:45 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello William,
>
>     Don't forget, Frank is in NEW JERSEY. They don't have a clue
>     about good mexican food, the other side of the mississippi river.
>     Let alone good tex-mex. they think Puerto Rican food is the same
>     as Mexican. ....
>
>     as an aside, Taco Bell invented hard shell tacos! real mex only
>     uses soft shell...
>
>     gonna weigh in on this Brad?
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>  I'm a lawyer." "Honest?" "No, the usual kind."
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep  5 07:04:18 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<6t8mot$4ihvac@email.mtu.edu> <48BFF7B0.11594.1C7AD13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0809041549l28dc378al194bf34ad24c993e@mail.gmail.com>
	<093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com>

At 06:43 AM 9/5/2008, David Lieb wrote:
> > If you leave it, you will play merry hell the next time (and there will be
> > a
> > next time) you have to pull the engine. If it were me I'd put the flex
> > line
> > in. Do you have the gusset on the passenger side frame for the flex line?
> > If
> > not it might be a bit tricky but still doable to install flex line. IMHO,
> > lack of flex line is why your hard line is buggered!  There is a reason it
> > was designed with a flex line and not a hard line. You've apparently found
> > it.
>
>But it WASN'T "designed with a flex line". The flex line didn't start until
>1967 per Horler.
>To go to a flex line would require replacing the slave cylinder with a later
>model and welding a tab on the subframe to hold the end of the line. This
>car came from the factory with a hard line with a few coils near the end to
>add "flex". It will work fine that way. Someone take a picture of their
>proper hard line setup with the coils and email it to him.
>David Lieb
======================
It's even more than that! Look, the slave cylinders are different 
bore diameters between 1098 and 1275. The diameter of the pipes are 
different. Solid line is 3/16" going into a 7/8 bore slave.  Flex 
line AND THE PIPE to it are 1/4"  going into the 1" bore 1275 slave. 
There is a reason and it has to do with pedal travel, and clutch 
release. IMHO, you should match the hydraulics to the clutch you are using.

Peter C 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep  5 08:02:36 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:02:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Waxoil
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809050334u7f6e2adasdf87e336aafd11ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
	<8c1781040809050334u7f6e2adasdf87e336aafd11ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <24180A72BD3244D8BD3859646CF2389C@Home>

Why do I not find references to putting Waxoil into A-posts from the inside? 
There is an existing hole for the door buzzer wiring that appears to go to 
the interior, and I have some "nonexistant" holes carefully painted over by 
the DPO.  It would not be hard to put in a hole specifically for this 
purpose and seal it with a rubber plug or even duck tape.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Fri Sep  5 08:40:54 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:40:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <mailman.379.1220589929.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.379.1220589929.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <A5E6CF30-5F83-4D79-9E49-C7F0489D3E8C@dartmouth.edu>

On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:45 AM, lester wrote:
> don't forget that you can get a used iPhone Edge, use it as a gadget
> and not a phone, and still run most of the apps.  or you can
> "jailbreak" it and use it as a phone on another carrier or so I've
> heard...

An iTouch contains essentially the same accelerometer - no phone or  
camera, but the accelerometer is there. And you have more room for  
music!

My stereo has an aux input so I just plug-in my iTouch loaded with  
'70s tunes and enjoy the drive....

-m

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 08:48:23 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:48:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] iphone multi-axis accelerometer app
In-Reply-To: <E7F3E45D939848B0A28E24EFE81CF84F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <BAY112-F375A4484A44BADE73512C0B8590@phx.gbl>
	<E7F3E45D939848B0A28E24EFE81CF84F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809050748p308922capd61da17d95f0d5ad@mail.gmail.com>

I think it looks like a cool app.  However, one of the nice things
about the G-Tech is that it records RPM throughout the run.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> For $13, you can download an application called "Dynolicious" from the
> I-tunes store that takes full advantage of the accelerometer.  According to
> what I've read so far, it outperforms the G-Tech Pro as an in-car
> dynomometer.  Its results compare quite closely with the time slip from a
> dragstrip.  My phone contract expires in Oct. and I plan on getting an
> I-phone partly because of this application.
>
> Glen Byrns (gadget junky)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 09:46:07 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:46:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
> Hello William,
>
>      Don't forget, Frank is in NEW JERSEY. 
>  they think Puerto Rican food is the same
>      as Mexican. ....
>   
Bill

I don't think I ever had Puerto Rican food.
I have had Portuguese food.
And you are dead right about lousy mexican food out east.
It's Taco Smells or nada.
But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 09:48:27 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:48:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
	<48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com><969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
	<48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <85F9CB8347FA455AA223F75D7AD4104C@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I don't think I ever had Puerto Rican food.
> I have had Portuguese food.
> And you are dead right about lousy mexican food out east.
> It's Taco Smells or nada.
> But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;)

But how are the wrappers on that Italian food?
Maybe you had better have some of those braggarts bring some of their Taco 
Time wrappers... 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 09:54:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:54:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <85F9CB8347FA455AA223F75D7AD4104C@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net>
	<48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com><969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com>
	<48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
	<85F9CB8347FA455AA223F75D7AD4104C@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48C15646.4060608@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> I don't think I ever had Puerto Rican food.
>> I have had Portuguese food.
>> And you are dead right about lousy mexican food out east.
>> It's Taco Smells or nada.
>> But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;)
>
> But how are the wrappers on that Italian food?

Italian food does NOT come in a wrapper!
Sometimes you can get a tomato pie in a box
But wrappers make meatball parm soggy

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 10:16:49 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 11:16:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com> <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0809050916i44367fefn6714ebbcf0401468@mail.gmail.com>

Frank Clarici wrote:
> But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;)

They put snot in Italian food??

Maybe Taco Smell for lunch isn't such a bad idea afterall!

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Sep  5 10:25:58 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:25:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>,
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <48C0FB26.3481.16E9B9@dmg.bossig.com>

Is there a way to tell what size bore the slave is without taking it to pieces?? 
A number on the outside or some distinguishing mark??

Thanks, Dave .

On 5 Sep 2008 at 8:04, Peter C wrote:

>> It's even more than that! Look, the slave cylinders are different bore
>> diameters between 1098 and 1275. The diameter of the pipes are
>> different. Solid line is 3/16" going into a 7/8 bore slave.  Flex line
>> AND THE PIPE to it are 1/4"  going into the 1" bore 1275 slave. 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep  5 10:44:15 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:44:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com> <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48C161DF.9030404@frontiernet.net>

That sounds like a challenge!  My Uncle Sal owned a restaurant in 
Bridgeport, and gave Mother all his recipes. I do wish there was an 
Italian restaurant in town though. I get tired of having to cook my own 
all the time.

Kate
> But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;)
>
>   
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Sep  5 10:55:08 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:55:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
Message-ID: <2bfb701c90f78$27121b40$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Nah, for real Puerto Rican food, ya gotta go to the Bronx....
 
Agree on the lousy Mexican food. And where I live in NW Jersey, the
lousy Chinese food, the non-existant Indian food, etc...
 
-=Chris 

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: 9/5/2008 11:45:07 AM
To: pythias at pacifier.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers? 

Bill L wrote: 
> Hello William, 
> 
> Don't forget, Frank is in NEW JERSEY. 
> they think Puerto Rican food is the same 
> as Mexican. .... 
> 
Bill 

I don't think I ever had Puerto Rican food. 
I have had Portuguese food. 
And you are dead right about lousy mexican food out east. 
It's Taco Smells or nada. 
But I bet our Italian food beats the snot out of yours ;) 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
_______________________________________________ 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  5 10:56:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:56:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <85F9CB8347FA455AA223F75D7AD4104C@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37991EE8745C10E344D8DEB8580@phx.gbl>

Buy the cook of the house a cookbook by Rick Bayless.

Of course, there may be some ingredients that you'll have to search out.


----Original Message Follows----
 > And you are dead right about lousy mexican food out east.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep  5 11:03:30 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:03:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <48C0FB26.3481.16E9B9@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com>
	<48C0FB26.3481.16E9B9@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905120030.02be5c40@nosimport.com>

Yep... the 7/8" bore slave takes a 3/8"-24 brake fitting with a 
concavity at the bottom of the fitting hole in the slave.... the 1" 
takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper 
gasket).   You can't interchange the cylinders on the same fittings.

         Peter
==
At 11:25 AM 9/5/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>Is there a way to tell what size bore the slave is without taking it 
>to pieces??
>A number on the outside or some distinguishing mark??
>
>Thanks, Dave .
>
>On 5 Sep 2008 at 8:04, Peter C wrote:
>
> >> It's even more than that! Look, the slave cylinders are different bore
> >> diameters between 1098 and 1275. The diameter of the pipes are
> >> different. Solid line is 3/16" going into a 7/8 bore slave.  Flex line
> >> AND THE PIPE to it are 1/4"  going into the 1" bore 1275 slave.
>
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
>If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bvsprite at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  5 11:08:55 2008
From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:08:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Waxoil
In-Reply-To: <24180A72BD3244D8BD3859646CF2389C@Home>
Message-ID: <778982.52447.qm@web53807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I used Waxoil quite extensively on my bugeye restoration. I didn't want to drill any extra holes, but was easily able to get it in the A-posts in front of the doors via most of the existin screw holes. I had also thought of drilling a 'water drain hole' at the bottom, and plug it with a rubber plug, so that it could be checked and drained periodically, but I still havent done it.

Warning - Be careful, if you ever need to weld in an area that was Waxoil'd. The stuff can catch fire and burn like a candle inside 'hidden' frame areas. I had this happen on an IH scout, when I was doing some welding on rocker panels that had been treated on the inside. 

Bryan Vandiver
59 bugeye
76 Intl Scout

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Waxoil
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 7:02 AM

Why do I not find references to putting Waxoil into A-posts from the inside? 
There is an existing hole for the door buzzer wiring that appears to go to 
the interior, and I have some "nonexistant" holes carefully painted
over by 
the DPO.  It would not be hard to put in a hole specifically for this 
purpose and seal it with a rubber plug or even duck tape.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 12:28:26 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:28:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com><093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com><48C0FB26.3481.16E9B9@dmg.bossig.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905120030.02be5c40@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <48F75652415A49AAA98F69EE78FEA481@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Yep... the 7/8" bore slave takes a 3/8"-24 brake fitting with a 
> concavity at the bottom of the fitting hole in the slave.... the 1" 
> takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper 
> gasket).   You can't interchange the cylinders on the same fittings.

I do not know off the top of my head... is there a difference 
in the bore of the MC as well? 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep  5 12:53:09 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <48F75652415A49AAA98F69EE78FEA481@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>
	<093E973405AD4B359B1692B120BBB5A7@midget>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905080013.03b5a960@nosimport.com>
	<48C0FB26.3481.16E9B9@dmg.bossig.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905120030.02be5c40@nosimport.com>
	<48F75652415A49AAA98F69EE78FEA481@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905134815.02b810f0@nosimport.com>

At 01:28 PM 9/5/2008, David Lieb wrote:
> > Yep... the 7/8" bore slave takes a 3/8"-24 brake fitting with a
> > concavity at the bottom of the fitting hole in the slave.... the 1"
> > takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper
> > gasket).   You can't interchange the cylinders on the same fittings.
>
>I do not know off the top of my head... is there a difference
>in the bore of the MC as well?
===
Now it gets fun.  Speaking of clutch masters. The 948 with drum 
brakes and tandem master would be 7/8(.875"). The 1098 with disc and 
tandem master are 3/4 (.75") the 1275s with separate brake and clutch 
masters are.70"

Peter C 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  5 13:08:27 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:08:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905134815.02b810f0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F346CDBB26BBDCB9AB10966B8580@phx.gbl>

Peter!

Did you find that on the top of your head?


----Original Message Follows----
From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>

At 01:28 PM 9/5/2008, David Lieb wrote:
 > > Yep... the 7/8" bore slave takes a 3/8"-24 brake fitting with a
 > > concavity at the bottom of the fitting hole in the slave.... the 1"
 > > takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper
 > > gasket).   You can't interchange the cylinders on the same fittings.
 >
 >I do not know off the top of my head... is there a difference
 >in the bore of the MC as well?
===
Now it gets fun.  Speaking of clutch masters. The 948 with drum
brakes and tandem master would be 7/8(.875"). The 1098 with disc and
tandem master are 3/4 (.75") the 1275s with separate brake and clutch
masters are.70"

Peter C

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Sep  5 14:10:15 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:10:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080905134815.02b810f0@nosimport.com>
References: <48BFDE70.29561.1650B13@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<48F75652415A49AAA98F69EE78FEA481@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080905134815.02b810f0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <48C12FB7.8454.E43A93@dmg.bossig.com>

Peter C.,

Now you've *really* got me going <BG>

>> the 1" takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper
>>  gasket).  
Is that 'gasket' what my (much-missed) dad would have called an"olive"??
It slips over the line and gets compressed by the nut?? Not me--- the brass 
one!!

>> Speaking of clutch masters. The 948 with drum 
>> brakes and tandem master would be 7/8(.875"). The 1098 with disc and
>> tandem master are 3/4 (.75")
If I very carefully take off the rubber cap on the clutch side of the dual master, 
will I be able to see and measure the bore??

Because, now I don't know what the heck I've got on this beast   ;-((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 14:25:06 2008
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Blake Thompson)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:25:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Van with trailer package moving from Des Moines
 to Milwaukee TOMORROW
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0809051325w235122d1pf99e0ebb7b159cb2@mail.gmail.com>

Let me know if you need anything moved.  Ill be leaving at 2am with an
empty mazda 6 from Milwaukee, to pick up my van which broke down last
weekend about 30 miles south of Des Moines.  I do hate wasting gas so...

-Blake
262.880.4570

-- 
http://BTDTRacing.com - Float like a Cadillac, sting like a Beemer.
Our ebay store:  http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 14:29:34 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:29:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Van with trailer package moving from Des
 Moines to Milwaukee TOMORROW
References: <8a336b9d0809051325w235122d1pf99e0ebb7b159cb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23F47625B5514A72901B8971DB36C73B@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Let me know if you need anything moved.  Ill be leaving at 2am with an
> empty mazda 6 from Milwaukee, to pick up my van which broke down last
> weekend about 30 miles south of Des Moines.  I do hate wasting gas so...

So why aren't you saving gas and riding the Honda Met over? ;-)
Make it an adventure!

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Sep  5 16:44:54 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:44:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
Message-ID: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>

Hey Frank, Greg, Chris. George.

Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
Any other east coasters getting hit with this tonight?



Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Sep  5 17:08:23 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:08:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com> <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1236255299.20080905160823@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     Italian food on the west coast sucks. its the same problem  that
     causes poor MEX on the east. the infrastructure isn't here to
     support decent INGREDIENTS. you can't make GREAT stuff if you
     can't get the parts to make it FROM. the "italian" rolls out here
     are NOT italian. .. worse still is what passes for BAGELS on the
     WHOLE WEST COAST. they seem to think you don't need to boil them,
     and they think that they will last for a couple of days, not a
     couple of HOURS. the taste AND texture are all wrong.....and the
     pastrami.. ICK. the only decent place to get THAT is a little
     deli that has it flown in twice a week from New York. .. in fact
     the only thing i miss from the EAST coast is the FOOD!. but then
     i missed good mex when i lived back there. . but i miss
     EVERYTHING else here........

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I refuse to make an agenda," Tom said listlessly. (*2)

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep  5 17:20:19 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:20:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <1236255299.20080905160823@pacifier.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com> <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
	<1236255299.20080905160823@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48C1BEB3.9020509@frontiernet.net>

I agree.  At least Bill L. is in a location that enables him to get good 
German food at Der Rheinlander in Portland.  I have known Horst Mager 
since I was a very small child, and his recipes are authentic and very 
good.  I have most of them in my own cook book.  The Italian restaurants 
in Portland go up and down, mostly down.  Lido's used to be good, but 
Mama Lido has to have died at least 20 years ago, and all her recipes 
were in her head.  I doubt the restaurant is even there anymore.

Here in NV, we do have good Mexican food, if you like Sonoran.  If 
Chihauhan is your idea of Mexican, you need to go to NM.  They are as 
different as northern and southern Italian.

At least we can finally get Thomas' English Muffins.  for the longest 
time, they were not available out west.  Now if I could only get someone 
to ship me a case of Gibble's Potato Chips, I would be in Heaven.

Kate
> .. in fact
>      the only thing i miss from the EAST coast is the FOOD!. but then
>      i missed good mex when i lived back there. . but i miss
>      EVERYTHING else here........
>
>   
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From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 17:32:38 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
In-Reply-To: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>
References: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <d66433d0809051632t5f565c45ge12a9d1c1cb1925d@mail.gmail.com>

Not too worried.  I used to go surfing before and after storms like
this.  I just put away the tents from my sons 1st birthday last
weekend and that's about it.

-- 
Greg Groiss
Bayville, NJ

"WARNING: The Bass Master General has determined that coffee is good
for your health!"



On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hey Frank, Greg, Chris. George.
>
> Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
> Any other east coasters getting hit with this tonight?
>
>
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Fri Sep  5 17:33:11 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:33:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV56CE8D8A7F8530C4E1ABDC8580@phx.gbl>

Tomorrow and tomorrow night for Fairfield County, CT. I guess.

Sunday is supposed to be fairly nice though.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Fri Sep  5 17:37:48 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:37:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV78150050F4D539C1B0A70C8580@phx.gbl>

Tomorrow and tomorrow night for Fairfiled Co., CT. I guess.

Sunday is supposed to be nice.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Fri Sep  5 17:44:42 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 19:44:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  East coast storm
Message-ID: <8912AD098F1D4D279ED10C803B6C6021@HomeComputer>

I'm in central North Carolina and if you want to keep up with our local
weather conditions I have a weather station on my roof.

http://home.earthlink.net/~swanson.systems/http:/home.earthlink.net/~swanson
.systems/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.htm

(Sorry about the long web address)

The storm should pass a little east of us sometime in the night.


Dean Swanson
Holly Springs, NC 27540



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Phil Nase
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 6:45 PM
To: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm

Hey Frank, Greg, Chris. George.

Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
Any other east coasters getting hit with this tonight?



Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 17:55:51 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:55:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <1236255299.20080905160823@pacifier.com>
References: <48C0B032.1020502@comcast.net> <48C0B3F2.6000108@gmail.com>
	<969683434.20080904214532@pacifier.com> <48C1543F.1000107@comcast.net>
	<1236255299.20080905160823@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <441250190809051655t6d982ea0h1164d0bbe17fc527@mail.gmail.com>

Heck, there is almost no Italian's out here either.  That is part of the
problem.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Frank,
>
>     Italian food on the west coast sucks. its the same problem  that
>     causes poor MEX on the east. the infrastructure isn't here to
>     support decent INGREDIENTS. you can't make GREAT stuff if you
>     can't get the parts to make it FROM. the "italian" rolls out here
>     are NOT italian. .. worse still is what passes for BAGELS on the
>     WHOLE WEST COAST. they seem to think you don't need to boil them,
>     and they think that they will last for a couple of days, not a
>     couple of HOURS. the taste AND texture are all wrong.....and the
>     pastrami.. ICK. the only decent place to get THAT is a little
>     deli that has it flown in twice a week from New York. .. in fact
>     the only thing i miss from the EAST coast is the FOOD!. but then
>     i missed good mex when i lived back there. . but i miss
>     EVERYTHING else here........
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  5 18:03:38 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:03:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <441250190809051655t6d982ea0h1164d0bbe17fc527@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <907400.90843.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I knew I was in trouble in Illinois when the locals recommended Maria's as the best Italian food around. I asked what the specialty was, and was told "steak". If I have to explain....

Then I was told I had to try REAL Chicago pizza. I did. In NY, we called it "casserole". 

Every year we go to Manhattan and eat nothing but Italian food and bagels for 4 days. And Long Island Italian food is actually better than NYC.

Ron


--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Heck, there is almost no Italian's out here either. 
> That is part of the
> problem.

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Sep  5 18:41:51 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:41:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?(fun with food)
In-Reply-To: <48C1BEB3.9020509@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20080906004211.7585818766C@autox.team.net>

Yea, I feel really sorry for you when the best beef steak in the land is a
couple of miles down the road from your house. It is not really Mexican food
just because the cook can't speak English.  If you really want to have fun
with food, go to a Chinese restaurant in Elko, NV.
		Crash

Here in NV, we do have good Mexican food, if you like Sonoran.  If 
Chihauhan is your idea of Mexican, you need to go to NM.  They are as 
different as northern and southern Italian.

At least we can finally get Thomas' English Muffins.  for the longest 
time, they were not available out west.  Now if I could only get someone 
to ship me a case of Gibble's Potato Chips, I would be in Heaven.

Kate

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Sep  5 18:46:35 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:46:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
Message-ID: <1d03c01c90fba$038d37d0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

As long as my sump pump keeps working I'll be ok. :)

-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Phil Nase [nases at verizon.net]
>Sent: 9/5/2008 6:45:54 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast storm
>
>Hey Frank, Greg, Chris. George.
>
>Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
>Any other east coasters getting hit with this tonight?
>
>
>
>Phil Nase
>Quakertown, PA
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 19:03:46 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:03:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
Message-ID: <090620080103.8703.48C1D6F200060D93000021FF22155754749B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

Hanna is not my worry.  i am flying to disney world with my wife and 2 kids tomorrow at 7 am and will be in florida for 8 days.  yes that includes the day + that Ike is expected to hit florida.  wish us luck.

I found out that travel insurance will only work if it prevents you from going or coming not if something affects your vacation in the mddle.Lovely....
have a good week and stay dry

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu> 

> As long as my sump pump keeps working I'll be ok. :) 
> 
> -=Chris 
> Chris King 
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 
> 
> <-----Original Message-----> 
> >From: Phil Nase [nases at verizon.net] 
> >Sent: 9/5/2008 6:45:54 PM 
> >To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] East coast storm 
> > 
> >Hey Frank, Greg, Chris. George. 
> > 
> >Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches? 
> >Any other east coasters getting hit with this tonight? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >Phil Nase 
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  5 19:04:35 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:04:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pt 1 Eric Jones' obituary, lots of LBC content
Message-ID: <687527.35955.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sent last week, never went through. Now in 2 parts:

Eric's obituary. Cats and LBC content below.

DELAWARE -- Eric K. Jones, 65, Delaware, died at 7 p.m. Sunday, August 24,
2008, after a lengthy illness. Mr. Jones, a British car mechanic and former
owner of British Auto Service and Overseas Motors in Columbus, was active in
numerous motor sports associations. He died a few hours after his annual
Summer Party, held for his British car customers and friends. More than 250
people attended the event, at which the 1972 Datsun 510 he was restoring to
drive in a rally in Great Britain this December, was exhibited. He had rallied
a Datsun 510 from 1971 through 1984.

The cause of death was mesothelioma cancer due to asbestos exposure
experienced through his years as a car mechanic. Born December 16, 1942, in
Akron, he was the son of Paul C. and Felicia C. (Filipiak) Jones. He is
survived by his wife, Susan Logan, and his two cats, Morris and Austin. He is
predeceased by his parents and shop cat, Bruiser.

Following graduation from West Geauga High School in 1959, he joined the U.S.
Marine Corps and served for four years, learning welding as a trade. He spent
a year of that time on Okinawa. Following his discharge as a corporal, he
entered The Ohio State University where he helped reactivate the OSU Sports
Car Club. He graduated from OSU in 1970 with a bachelor of science in social
work.

Mr. Jones spent many years competing in Sports Car Club of America ProRally
events. For the past several years, he drove in LEJOG, a rally in Great
Britain extending from Lands End, England, to John Ob Groats, Scotland.
A voracious reader, Mr. Jones devoured books at the rate of several a week.
Each year, he reread The Hobbit by J.R. Tolkien and counted the Sherlock
Holmes series among his favorites. His attention to grammar, spelling, and
punctuation identified errors on signs, billboards, and menus wherever he
traveled.

to be continued...

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  5 19:05:41 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:05:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pt II Eric Jones' obituary, lots of LBC content
Message-ID: <771120.84134.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Continued....pg. 2 of 2

His loyalty and attention to friends were legendary. Many were surprised over
the years by unexpected gifts of books, magazines, travel literature, and
compact discs. Many of the young men who worked for him were b
adoptedb
 as
sons, and were distinguished from one another by a unique numbering system.
Those he admired, such as Pete Seeger, were sent birthday cards every year
without fail. He donated to a number of organizations which helped promote
lost arts and workmanship, conservation, and social causes.

Eric was passionate about auto rallies. Between 1961 and 1970, Eric competed
regularly in Time, Speed, Distance (TSD) rallies at local, divisional and
national level. At times he would run as many as three events in a weekend.
His interest evolved from the TSD rallies to pro rally
events. A consistent finisher, Eric drove in pro rally style events across the
United States and Canada from 1970 to1985. He won the 1977 Susquehannock Trail
Pro Rally and was 5th in the Rally of The Rideau Lakes, which was on the World
Championship Calendar in 1974. Mr. Jones was a founder of the Columbus Rally
Club and a founding member of the Central
Ohio Rally Club. He was involved in the Scioto Sports Car Club, Buckeye Sports
Car Club, Central Ohio MG Owners, the Central Ohio Mini Owners, and the
Mid-Ohio Austin Healey Club. He was a club delegate to the Austin Healey Club
of America, and he and his wife Susan planned numerous driving tours for
British car enthusiasts. He was the chief organizer of a number of TSD events
for SCCA and local clubs, including the Columbus Alley Rally for 30 years. In
1966 he started the Sunriser Forest Rally, which ran in Southern Ohio for many
years. The 1982 event won the SCCA Rally-of-the-Year Award.

There will be no funeral service or calling hours. Memorial contributions can
be made to The James Cancer Hospital fund 310578 for Dr. Villalona, P.O. Box
183112, Columbus, OH 43218-3112; or Highlands Nature Sanctuary, 7629 Cave
Road, Bainbridge, OH 45612.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  5 19:12:00 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:12:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
In-Reply-To: <090620080103.8703.48C1D6F200060D93000021FF22155754749B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <508944.97454.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> I found out that travel insurance will only work if it
> prevents you from going or coming not if something affects
> your vacation in the mddle.Lovely....

If you've gotta be near a hurricane, you couldn't do much better. My mom lives directly on the ocean, 60 miles east of Disney. Whenever a hurricane hits, she goes to the one of the Disney resorts. Being central-most, the storms are "usually" a bit weaker, and the Disney hotels by far have the best backup power systems and are built like brick sh!thouses. 

Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep  5 20:35:35 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 20:35:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Pt 1 Eric Jones' obituary, lots of LBC content
In-Reply-To: <687527.35955.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEFKDDAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Eric's obituary.>>

THANK you VERY much, Ron.

Eric was a good buddy and we often talked (phone) often for no particular
reason at all except to just 'catch up'.

Fantastic gent and he IS missed !!

Ed

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 19:51:09 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:51:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] morris minor for sale on craigslist:
Message-ID: <090620080151.3436.48C1E20D000592C300000D6C22165258569B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/829143695.html

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep  5 20:55:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:55:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
In-Reply-To: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>
References: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48C1F132.2050503@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
>
> Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
>
>   
I was just down at the local watering hole and the first band hit.
15 minutes of rain and the streets are flooded!
I rolled down the deck umbrella, and toasted TS Hanna down at the club.
What else is there to do?
I did manage to push the Holy Sprite off it's jack stands trying to 
align the bonnet this evening.
It is sitting on the ground with the bare metal blasted bonnet on it and 
it's gonna rust after all this rain.
I can not move the car by myself and tomorrow doesn't look good 
either.my son is down in Disney this week and maybe Ryan will bump into him.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 22:02:25 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:02:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pt 1 Eric Jones' obituary, lots of LBC content
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEFKDDAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <7B4BEBAD38DE438F9A34408E864CAFCD@midget>

> Eric was a good buddy and we often talked (phone) often for no particular
> reason at all except to just 'catch up'.

And if any of you know ED, you are aware that this means that ED called Eric 
and Eric was too polite to hang up <VBG>
Lorry Denials 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Sep  5 22:31:29 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 23:31:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chicago British Car Show
Message-ID: <3C470C2838264031BC6DF87070DCBEA9@midget>

Any of you guys going to show up at the Chicago British Car Union show at 
Morraine valley College in Palos on Sunday? Or run in the Austin-Healey Club 
rallye on Saturday? www.britishcarunion.com
David Lieb

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sat Sep  6 00:15:25 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 02:15:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] East coast storm
In-Reply-To: <48C1F132.2050503@comcast.net>
References: <7AD52C06-32FE-42E9-AD1D-43A1027B4346@verizon.net>
	<48C1F132.2050503@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809052315q74ba528em470f80700c3cfcd8@mail.gmail.com>

In MA we are projected to get 6inches of rain tomorrow!! Not too worried tho

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Phil Nase wrote:
> >
> > Are you Jersey folks battening down the hatches?
> >
> >
> I was just down at the local watering hole and the first band hit.
> 15 minutes of rain and the streets are flooded!
> I rolled down the deck umbrella, and toasted TS Hanna down at the club.
> What else is there to do?
> I did manage to push the Holy Sprite off it's jack stands trying to
> align the bonnet this evening.
> It is sitting on the ground with the bare metal blasted bonnet on it and
> it's gonna rust after all this rain.
> I can not move the car by myself and tomorrow doesn't look good
> either.my son is down in Disney this week and maybe Ryan will bump into
> him.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sat Sep  6 06:56:27 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:56:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.426.1220634235.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.426.1220634235.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48C27DFB.3030201@comcast.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Buy the cook of the house a cookbook by Rick Bayless.

Or go the free route:
<http://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/>

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Sep  6 07:18:53 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 09:18:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Taco Bell wrappers?
In-Reply-To: <48C27DFB.3030201@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.426.1220634235.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<48C27DFB.3030201@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F1DF15D4-F097-4570-ACC7-2339B4560D40@phillymgclub.com>

Well except for the tamales, I didn't see any Mexican food there.  
Lot's of Mexican Style (if you add the right seasonings, anything is  
Mexican Style), but no mexican food.

Larry

On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Kent McLean wrote:

> Robert Duquette wrote:
>> Buy the cook of the house a cookbook by Rick Bayless.
>
> Or go the free route:
> <http://www.rickbayless.com/recipe/>
>
> -- 
> Kent McLean
> '56 100 BN2
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-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From bighealey at charter.net  Sat Sep  6 07:42:30 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 06:42:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Sprite tub find
Message-ID: <F4C05F96FF354870AAD7D22F41EFB907@TRACY>

No financial interest.  Disclaimer   blah  blah

 

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/828496963.html

 

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Sep  6 08:19:49 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:19:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye
Message-ID: <3F42A3D47A2948039BCB630FB18A7336@Home>

All of you guys and gals with several Bugeyes in the garage:
Now that I can see my '74 Midget getting on the road before I die (maybe not when I am still on my feet), I am in the market for a Bugeye to work on.  Please keep an eye out for anything reasonable within striking distance of NY.  

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  6 11:26:08 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:26:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Mess
Message-ID: <48C2BD30.9060909@comcast.net>

In trying to fit the Holy Bonnet to the Holy Sprite I have found some 
DPO has altered the radiator air shroud which moved the locating pegs by 
only one inch.
And I found out why the hinge adjustment keeps moving.
The hinge pockets have been ripped out of the firewall. The whole cowl 
is loose along the top welds and the pockets for the hinges are actually 
ripped a couple inches across the firewall, you can see the rip open up 
when you wiggle the hinges.
All I can think of is the original bonnet must have flew open to do this 
damage. I hope I can get it back where it belongs and welded up. I 
already cut the PO welds and the pegs will move the inch they need to.
But now Hanna is starting to kick up and there is no room in the garage 
to weld with all the parts, 2 Sprites, and the bonnet.
The car is still outside and my brother and I got it back up on the jack 
stands after I accidentally nudged to too hard last night and it fell 
off the stands.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Sep  6 11:30:08 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:30:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye muffler
References: <679F4C23-8379-4319-93FB-157F7DA24647@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF568030-6083-422C-9BA1-7A0C5A65D7E4@verizon.net>

> I need a stock muffler for my Bugeye restoration.  I have one that  
> is a replacement but the hanger isn't in the right place and I don't  
> want another hole in the boot.
>
> I have a 1275 manifold so I need the muffler inlet to be 1 1/2" ID.   
> Or I need to adapt a hanger.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Sep  6 11:35:35 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:35:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Mess
In-Reply-To: <48C2BD30.9060909@comcast.net>
References: <48C2BD30.9060909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48C2BF67.8080007@verizon.net>

FWIW - Hanna moved thru Durham NC with over 6" of rain but not
much wind. We were on the west side of the storm and it was easier than
most.

Frank Clarici wrote:
> In trying to fit the Holy Bonnet to the Holy Sprite I have found some 
> DPO has altered the radiator air shroud which moved the locating pegs by 
> only one inch.
> And I found out why the hinge adjustment keeps moving.
> The hinge pockets have been ripped out of the firewall. The whole cowl 
> is loose along the top welds and the pockets for the hinges are actually 
> ripped a couple inches across the firewall, you can see the rip open up 
> when you wiggle the hinges.
> All I can think of is the original bonnet must have flew open to do this 
> damage. I hope I can get it back where it belongs and welded up. I 
> already cut the PO welds and the pegs will move the inch they need to.
> But now Hanna is starting to kick up and there is no room in the garage 
> to weld with all the parts, 2 Sprites, and the bonnet.
> The car is still outside and my brother and I got it back up on the jack 
> stands after I accidentally nudged to too hard last night and it fell 
> off the stands.

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  6 11:58:45 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:58:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Freakin' distributor
Message-ID: <716872.36458.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I cannot get my distributor (in my new engine) to stay cinched down. I got a new clamp from Moss, but that doesn't help. I can get timing set rough, then after 5 seconds of run time it slips and rotates out of time. Or, when I'm adjusting, then tightening the clamp, the distributor squirts out of the clamp - the clamp kind of falls off the shoulder of the distributor.

I'm using a 123Ignition distributor. The section of the distributor that must be clamped is chromed steel and very hard and slick. I'm about ready to try another dizzy - but will I have the same problem? If I try another dizzy I need something that doesn't require vacuum advance. I got the 123 for the electronic ignition...

Any ideas?

Joe

Freakin 62 been in the shop for 2 years now...

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Sep  6 12:13:35 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:13:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
Message-ID: <48C2C84F.1070302@verizon.net>

OK, so I took y'alls advice and ordered my FREEEE (for points)
Cambell-Hausfield 2 gallon 100 psi compressor.

Powered it up, ran it for the 5 minute break in, and filled the
tank to 100 psi.

Installed the tire chuck and opened up the output valve.

Press on the little pin in the tire chuck and get plenty of
air pressure.

But press that (schraeder valve) air chuck on any tire valve,
spridget, bicycle, you name it, and no air flows.

Press the little pin with my thumb, and there's plenty air.

Put in to a valve and nada.

WTF??? over.

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Sep  6 12:19:46 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:19:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <48C2C84F.1070302@verizon.net>
References: <48C2C84F.1070302@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48C26752.19092.D0A62F@dmg.bossig.com>

I had the same problem when I bought my little compressor...
Changing the OEM supplied chuck for one bought from NAPA solved the 
problem.... 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep  6 12:57:58 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 11:57:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <48C26752.19092.D0A62F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48C2C84F.1070302@verizon.net>
	<48C26752.19092.D0A62F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <22FD7AD1D23248A2AC875ECD1018A12C@spider>

The China connection?  ...bill
================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 11:20 AM
To: chuck; spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q

I had the same problem when I bought my little compressor...
Changing the OEM supplied chuck for one bought from NAPA solved the 
problem.... 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Sep  6 13:08:56 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:08:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <22FD7AD1D23248A2AC875ECD1018A12C@spider>
References: <48C2C84F.1070302@verizon.net>
	<48C26752.19092.D0A62F@dmg.bossig.com>
	<22FD7AD1D23248A2AC875ECD1018A12C@spider>
Message-ID: <48C2D548.7040500@verizon.net>

Yes, butt .... the compressor actually works!

Just the bloody check that doesn't (I guess).

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> The China connection?  ...bill

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  6 14:26:15 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:26:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Freakin' distributor
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10FD1C3D43B7CB0E2CEAA6C85B0@phx.gbl>

Joe...

you could be over-tightening in which case
the distributor will have a tendency to "rise" and "squirt out" of it's port.

I am assuming the distributor fits properly  ALL THE WAY DOWN it's port to begin with, of course.

Very little tightening is actually required to 
"hold" the dizzy in place. Fr'instance, I can actually turn mine by hand (not too easily, mind you) after "tightening" it down.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Sep  6 14:45:50 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (mdrowe at optonline.net)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:45:50 UT
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey Bugeye - $125
Message-ID: <20080906204550.8F484118B04@web8p.int.craigslist.org>

mdrowe at optonline.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.Please see
below for more information.


Austin Healey BugeyeReply to: sale-820767321 at craigslist.orgDate: 2008-08-31,
10:02AM
Rolling Bugeye body. Came with other parts. What you see is what you get. NO
TITLE. I am trying Craigs list since E-bay has gotten TOO expensive.



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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat Sep  6 15:52:41 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:52:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3
References: <CDFFD8A321814195911BFA7B4DA2C544@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <18F7F6785FD746AEB3E47C06D263D95D@Dell9200>

Thanks for all of the tips, we got the engine running like a champ and the 
vacation was saved.  It turned out to be a corroded plug on the ignition 
amplifier board that mounts on the side of the distributor.  Sometimes it 
would work and other times not.  We cleaned the "green" out and it fired 
right up.  We filled it with silicone grease so hopefully it won't do it 
again.  I won't be complaining about expensive parts again for a while, the 
plug with 5 feet of wire is $70 and the ignition module is about $300.  Glad 
we didn't need either.

Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
To: <shop-talk at autox.team.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Mercruiser 4.3



My next-door neighbor just bought a 93 Sea Ray with a Mercruiser 4.3 V6
engine.  He has had a heck of a time starting it but once he does get it
running it runs good.  He called me tonight thinking that I might help with
the problem.  We centered on the electric choke and I think the problem is
in the driver seat.  He doesn't have a manual so we don't know what the
procedure should be.  It looks like the throttle should be disengaged from
the shit mechanism with the unlock button below the engine control.  At the
first detent the choke seems to be free to move mechanically and if cold the
electric choke servo should move the choke butterfly.  Can anyone confirm
what the starting sequence should be, are we getting warm?  It is a Alpha
One Chevy based V6, 2 barrel carb with a Thunderbolt ignition.  I can't seem
to find anything on line about operating the engine.

Help,  he is taking his family to the lake tomorrow evening for a long
weekend.

Mark

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep  6 18:49:27 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:49:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car show
Message-ID: <C5E9A3492D17497794EB741570BC3E51@personal>

Lost 1st place to a concorse TD 1500, sigh. Boy tough class was pleased to get
2ed.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep  6 19:00:30 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:00:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car show
In-Reply-To: <C5E9A3492D17497794EB741570BC3E51@personal>
Message-ID: <C4E875BE.197E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Lost 1st place to a concorse TD 1500,
Excuse me?

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep  6 19:09:02 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:09:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car show
In-Reply-To: <C4E875BE.197E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <183086.25180.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> >  TD 1500,
> Excuse me?

You shoulda seen the other guy....

Ron

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep  6 19:09:14 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 20:09:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car show
References: <C4E875BE.197E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <6E807AB2C6004DA180021664C88D3771@personal>

Was an all car show, my class was Brit 4 cyl. I know but my club Model A & T 
club was host so I needed to be there.

Hmm, TF 1500.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>; "spridgets net" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car show


>> Lost 1st place to a concorse TD 1500,
> Excuse me?
>
>


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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  6 19:52:49 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye muffler
In-Reply-To: <EF568030-6083-422C-9BA1-7A0C5A65D7E4@verizon.net>
References: <679F4C23-8379-4319-93FB-157F7DA24647@gmail.com>
	<EF568030-6083-422C-9BA1-7A0C5A65D7E4@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48C333F1.5090101@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
>> I need a stock muffler for my Bugeye restoration.  I have one that  
>> is a replacement but the hanger isn't in the right place and I don't  
>> want another hole in the boot.
>>
>>     
Phil

I make a simple "Z" bracket and weld it to the top of a JC Whitney 
muffler and bolt it to the stud from the trunk floor.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  7 10:43:44 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 09:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High-Update & Thanks
In-Reply-To: <681620.88527.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <659461.69031.qm@web62508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Here is the update - Tried another known, good gauge. Same high readings.
Trial and error cutting off one coil at a time and started to see improvement,
but gauge started bouncing around at hot idle. Called APT. Said the bouncing
around was due to the ball bearing spinning at hot idle. Decided to take
Mark's advice and try APT's adjustable set up with the standard valve.
Success!!! After some minor tweaking, hot idle is 35, under full load hot is
dialed in at 55 psi. Thanks to all responders.
 
John Kuzman


--- On Sun, 8/17/08, John Kuzman <jjkan5 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: John Kuzman <jjkan5 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 7:08 PM

Greetings!

Over the last few months I have noticed the oil pressure in my Bugeye with a
1275 slowly creeping higher. Earlier this year, it was running about 70 cold
idle and 75 at cold 3000 rpm. Hot idle would be 45 psi and 60 psi hot 3000
rpm.
Last week, it went to 80 psi cold idle and almost 85 cold at 3000 rpm. Hot
idle
was over 70 psi and over 80 psi at 3000 rpm hot.
Today I swapped out different pressure relief valves, springs and even tried
the ball bearing. No difference, except the ball bearing shot it up to almost
100 psi cold.
Any thoughts on where I should look next? Thanks.
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Sep  7 11:41:13 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:41:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pin holes
Message-ID: <9BF9D8E846C14EC98FC8A831C758CABD@Home>

Actually, they are nail holes.  Several places around the bottom of door hinge pillar and the top of the sill below have small holes in what  otherwise sounds like reasonably solid metal.  Should I try to weld them shut, some in tight corners, or will I do more damage than good?  I am not sure I can get them all clean enough in the corners to weld.   I could squirt some panel sealer in just to keep water out.  I am not yet willing to tear all of this out and put in new metal.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep  7 12:18:25 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:18:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High-Update & Thanks
In-Reply-To: <659461.69031.qm@web62508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4E96901.19800%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

So what would be the down side of having higher than stock oil pressure...as
long as it's not squirting out? 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  7 12:39:54 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
Message-ID: <366044.58595.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I live 5 or 6 miles from the seller, and stopped in yesterday at the dealer. Quite an experience, but that's another story. Beware - the car is nowhere near as nice as the photos. It's way, way overbid at the moment, IMHO. The BIN price is ridiculous.

Ebay Item number: 370081785195

Ron

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Sep  7 13:34:25 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:34:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
Message-ID: <437701c91120$bc596290$056a010a@mail2world.com>

>From the ad copy:
"Factory original 14" Styled Steel Stamped 4- Spoke wheels. They are
also wrapped with a very correct and healthy set of Pirelli Cinturato
145-SR13 Steel Belted radial White Wall Tires that show to have at least
90 % of the tread life left for the next fortunate owner."

How does one get 13" tires on 14" rims? Nevermind that Pirelli probably
hasn't made a 13" tire in 10-15 years. Last time I bought 145's was in
2001, they were Dunlops. Now, nobody makes em. 

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Ron Soave [soavero at yahoo.com]
>Sent: 9/7/2008 2:40:54 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
>
>I live 5 or 6 miles from the seller, and stopped in yesterday at the
dealer.
>Quite an experience, but that's another story. Beware - the car is
nowhere near
>as nice as the photos. It's way, way overbid at the moment, IMHO. The
BIN price
>is ridiculous.
>
>Ebay Item number: 370081785195
>
>Ron
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep  7 14:23:58 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:23:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <437701c91120$bc596290$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <C4E9866E.1980B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I don't think the old tube type Cinturatos had steel belts either.

>> "Factory original 14" Styled Steel Stamped 4- Spoke wheels. They are
>> also wrapped with a very correct and healthy set of Pirelli Cinturato
>> 145-SR13 Steel Belted radial White Wall Tires that show to have at least
>> 90 % of the tread life left for the next fortunate owner."
> How does one get 13" tires on 14" rims? Nevermind that Pirelli probably
> hasn't made a 13" tire in 10-15 years. Last time I bought 145's was in
> 2001, they were Dunlops. Now, nobody makes em. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Sep  7 14:35:30 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:35:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
References: <C4E9866E.1980B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <B66C36D04AC34B56B853F4310413BFB3@midget>

>I don't think the old tube type Cinturatos had steel belts either.

"Cinturato" means belted... What kind of belts would they be if not steel? 
Not really arguing, just curious.
David Lieb

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Sep  7 14:42:50 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:42:50 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
References: <437701c91120$bc596290$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <4516C6DE7AF64BF0AD239DDA54EB739A@TAIRS>

Chris,
Pirelli, Michelin, Firestone, Kleber, Goodyear and Continental are amongst 
those who still have 145-SR13's  for sale across here in the UK.  There are 
many other smaller makers but Continentals are a rather nice looking 
asymmetrical tread one.

If you want any I'll get a price and sort out shipping them for you. 
Individually, the Pirellis retail around  $100 (oo!) plus shipping.  They 
drop to around $300 for 4.  Continentals are around $5 cheaper for one and 
$270-280 for 4 (still oooo!).

BUT - you'll still have a heck of a problem fitting them on the 14" rims! 
LOL!

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris King" <cbking at alum.rpi.edu>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195


 >From the ad copy:
> "Factory original 14" Styled Steel Stamped 4- Spoke wheels. They are
> also wrapped with a very correct and healthy set of Pirelli Cinturato
> 145-SR13 Steel Belted radial White Wall Tires that show to have at least
> 90 % of the tread life left for the next fortunate owner."
>
> How does one get 13" tires on 14" rims? Nevermind that Pirelli probably
> hasn't made a 13" tire in 10-15 years. Last time I bought 145's was in
> 2001, they were Dunlops. Now, nobody makes em.
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Sep  7 14:51:04 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:51:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <B66C36D04AC34B56B853F4310413BFB3@midget>
References: <C4E9866E.1980B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<B66C36D04AC34B56B853F4310413BFB3@midget>
Message-ID: <48C3DC48.18162.3E1530@dmg.bossig.com>

I believe that rayon, nylon and fabric have all been used as "belts" at one 
time or another...

On 7 Sep 2008 at 15:35, David Lieb wrote:

>> "Cinturato" means belted... What kind of belts would they be if not
>> steel? Not really arguing, just curious.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep  7 14:58:11 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:58:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
References: <C4E9866E.1980B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<B66C36D04AC34B56B853F4310413BFB3@midget>
	<48C3DC48.18162.3E1530@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <C645DE6503D04453AEEADB8C14E3A1CC@Larry>

And Aramid & Kevlar

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195


I believe that rayon, nylon and fabric have all been used as "belts" at one
time or another...

On 7 Sep 2008 at 15:35, David Lieb wrote:

>> "Cinturato" means belted... What kind of belts would they be if not
>> steel? Not really arguing, just curious.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Sep  7 17:32:13 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:32:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <C645DE6503D04453AEEADB8C14E3A1CC@Larry>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEPHDFAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<And Aramid & Kevlar>>

Ah BUT Larry, those are NEW an UN-suitable for Concours cars!!

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Sep  7 17:44:48 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:44:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <48C3DC48.18162.3E1530@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEPJDFAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I believe that rayon, nylon and fabric have all been used as "belts" at
one
time or another...>>

Yep, Dave.  I DO recall putting a set of triple-whitewalls on my '63 Pontiac
Catalina (god I wish I still had it<G>) and they were rayon belted!!

Flat-spotted in a week but driving removed them<G>!!

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun Sep  7 18:08:49 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
Message-ID: <436620.8741.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
My sons girl friend has her dog in this contest. She would love to be in the
competition. You can Vote more then once with out clearing cash. Some of the
dogs have over 4000 votes. She is at 512 now. She now figures she is out of
it. I told her not to give up - you never know. It would be really nice to see
the number climb and for her dog to win. If you have a few minutes please go
to this link and Vote for Billie.
 
Come vote for my entry in the My Dog's Face contest at OCRegister.com.

You can find the entry here:
http://ocregister.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?contestid=2913&pagetype=VOT
ING&SubmissionID=181274
 
or
 
http://tinyurl.com/5os5md

Thanks for your help,
 
Vigil
So Cal

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep  7 18:24:10 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:24:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Funny Story
Message-ID: <047b01c91149$37a6c190$4e947e4c@HP>

We entered Bugzuki in an event named Cherries Jubilee, Think Hot August 
Nights on a smaller scale.

We won a plaque sponsored by none other than the infamous "Taco Bell".

At least we thought it was funny :-)

Larry & Sandi

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Sep  7 18:37:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:37:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Funny Story
In-Reply-To: <047b01c91149$37a6c190$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <047b01c91149$37a6c190$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48C473C8.1080603@comcast.net>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> We entered Bugzuki in an event named Cherries Jubilee, Think Hot August 
> Nights on a smaller scale.
>
> We won a plaque sponsored by none other than the infamous "Taco Bell".
>
>   
Ooh, a Taco Bell plaque! Just imagine how big a hole THAT would fix.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Sep  7 18:46:48 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:46:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
Message-ID: <DB9CC71B661E4D75A32C85B368610811@personal>

for a Bugeye jack wrench. It is kind of flat with a large hole on a wobble
end. I can provide a pic if needed.

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Sep  7 19:36:26 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 18:36:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
In-Reply-To: <DB9CC71B661E4D75A32C85B368610811@personal>
Message-ID: <20080908013701.1610E187652@autox.team.net>

And I have the wrench, but you want it for free.  For the $5 you are willing
to pay you can get a cheap Chinese copy (known as a universal wrench), I can
send you a picture of one if that will help. Because you hurt my feeling my
price has gone up to $750 for the real deal.
		Crash


for a Bugeye jack wrench. It is kind of flat with a large hole on a wobble
end. I can provide a pic if needed.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Sep  7 20:27:59 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:27:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
References: <20080908013709.EXUJ28286.fed1rmmtai111.cox.net@fed1rmimpi03.cox.net>
Message-ID: <C1C33C1DD887429EB4F2EBF2360C65B4@personal>

Don't think I said I wanted it free but am not willing to pay an arm and leg 
either.

Copy is no good, it will be part of my show package.

$750 is a bit much without the car attached, LOL.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
To: "'Jack Laird'" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Still looking


> And I have the wrench, but you want it for free.  For the $5 you are 
> willing
> to pay you can get a cheap Chinese copy (known as a universal wrench), I 
> can
> send you a picture of one if that will help. Because you hurt my feeling 
> my
> price has gone up to $750 for the real deal.
> Crash
>
>
> for a Bugeye jack wrench. It is kind of flat with a large hole on a wobble
> end. I can provide a pic if needed.
>
>


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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Sep  7 21:47:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:47:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
In-Reply-To: <C1C33C1DD887429EB4F2EBF2360C65B4@personal>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEAPDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<$750 is a bit much without the car attached,>>

Nah, Jack.  

The $750 gets you the wrench and a pair of re-built a-arms (un-painted)!!

FAIR deal to me!!!

<G>

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Sep  7 21:58:09 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:58:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEAPDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <C6D07F6260D14DDEBCA440DCA1A8DF4E@personal>

Is that disc or drum Ed?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Still looking


> <<$750 is a bit much without the car attached,>>
>
> Nah, Jack.
>
> The $750 gets you the wrench and a pair of re-built a-arms (un-painted)!!
>
> FAIR deal to me!!!
>
> <G>
>
>
>


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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Mon Sep  8 05:59:14 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:59:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High-Update & Thanks
In-Reply-To: <C4E96901.19800%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4E96901.19800%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48C51392.5010605@lehigh.edu>

Billy Zoom wrote:
> So what would be the down side of having higher than stock oil pressure...as
> long as it's not squirting out? 
>   
Excessive windage, more oil thrown onto the cylinder walls so harder to 
control oil consumption, higher oil temperature and more power  consumed 
in compressing the oil, and probably too much oil on the top end. 
Excessive oil pressure may also damage bearings, but I am not as sure 
about that.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 06:31:26 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:31:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Anything to do in Perry County Kentucky?
Message-ID: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com>

Morning All,

I just found out work will be sending me to Perry County Kentucky for
2 - 3 weeks in the middle of October. Just wondering if there was
anything to do around there besides visit the General Lee? Or is this
going to be a long 3 weeks......
-- 
Greg Groiss
Bayville, NJ

"WARNING: The Bass Master General has determined that coffee is good
for your health!"

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  8 07:35:37 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:35:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Anything to do in Perry County  Kentucky?
Message-ID: <27509018.1220880937489.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Do you rub snuff or chew tobacco?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Gregory Groiss <ggroiss at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 8, 2008 8:31 AM
>To: "spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Anything to do in Perry County Kentucky?
>
>Morning All,
>
>I just found out work will be sending me to Perry County Kentucky for
>2 - 3 weeks in the middle of October. Just wondering if there was
>anything to do around there besides visit the General Lee? Or is this
>going to be a long 3 weeks......
>-- 
>Greg Groiss
>Bayville, NJ
>
>"WARNING: The Bass Master General has determined that coffee is good
>for your health!"


________________________________________
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Sep  8 08:40:18 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:40:18 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
Message-ID: <20080908.084018.13078.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

So for the past 4 weeks, Ive been working on getting the Bugeyes brakes
functioning. In the process, it ngot polyurethane bushings all the way around
the suspension, plus my racing springs in front, one new (refilled and bled)
shock on the drivers side, and the disc brake setup cannibalized from my
MKII. I had to find a rebuild kit for one of the rear wheel cylinders (those
were from the MKII originally also) on Friday to get the brakes completed.
Yesterday, I worked on getting tires that werent dry rotted on (185/70-13 DOT
race tires at this point on Vega GT rims), bleeding the brakes out again, and
hot-wiring the ignition. It turned over very well initially, but wouldnt fire
(This was where the original problem was and why it was parked) I checked the
cap and rotor-new, but there was no electrical connection between sides of the
points (I originally suspected shorted points), so a push or two with a needle
file corrected that, a shot of starting fluid, and VROOM-It runs!! 45psi oil
pressure at idle, revs well, stays cool -Amazing little cars aren't they! The
ignition switch needs some attention, as do the electricals for the lights. I
went to take it out for a spin, put 2 gal of gas in, and saw it was dripping
onto my foot! Five pinholes in the tank!  Next project!

So, a question to the list, will the MKII tank and filler tube fit the bugeye?
That tank was professionally cleaned and has never seen a drop since.
TIA and Hoorah!


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Sep  8 08:03:50 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:03:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody calm my mind....
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080908090326.039f8640@nosimport.com>

At 03:10 PM 9/5/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>Peter C.,
>
>Now you've *really* got me going <BG>
>
> >> the 1" takes a 7/16"-20 with no bottom in the hole (it uses a copper
> >>  gasket).
>Is that 'gasket' what my (much-missed) dad would have called an"olive"??
>It slips over the line and gets compressed by the nut?? Not me--- the brass
>one!!

NONONONO.  Not an olive.  The gasket is a copper gasket or crush 
washer that seals between the surfaces of the slave cylinder and the 
flexible hose. remember, the flex hose, only on the 1" bore 1275 
slave, does not use any form of compression fitting. The hole that 
the male 1/16-20 hose end goes into is a straight, bottomless hole. 
No taper, no seat at the bottom. The seal is accomplished by the 
copper gasket, similar to an oil drain plug gasket, or crush washer.

> >> Speaking of clutch masters. The 948 with drum
> >> brakes and tandem master would be 7/8(.875"). The 1098 with disc and
> >> tandem master are 3/4 (.75")
>If I very carefully take off the rubber cap on the clutch side of 
>the dual master,
>will I be able to see and measure the bore??

No, you can't, and don't bother or worry about it. Here are some 
questions and answers:
1. is there now a rubber hose into the slave?
         if yes, then you have a 1275 slave.
                 You "should" have a 1/4" pipe running from the slave 
hose back toward the master cylinder. ALL of the masters have a 
3/8-24 single flare hole for the pipe. The 1275 single, independent, 
master has an adapter to go from 3/8-24 to accept the 1/4" line with 
its 7/16 male single flare fitting. But honestly, many cars have an 
adapter at the hose end of the 3/16 pipe. Not overly significant. On 
the 67 and newer cars, that hard line goes along in front of the 
heater tray above the transmission.

         if no, then you have a 1098/948 slave.
                 You should have a hard steel line. 3/16". It would 
have a 3/8-24 single flare male end into the slave, 2 or 3 coils 
about 2" in diameter about a foot away and vertically above the 
starter, then the line traverses across the firewall above the 
battery and ends with the same 3/8-24 single flare into the master.

If I can back up to your original. A 1965 should have a 1098 CD 
engine with a ribcage transmission. You have that. It should have the 
tandem master cylinder. You have that. It should have the steel line 
from master to slave. I'm not sure you have that.

If you were to put in a 1275 engine and transmission, you could do 
one of two things regarding the slave.
         1. use the 1098 slave, and the car's original plumbing. 
You'll have to fiddle with the slave pushrod length
         2. use the 1275 slave, and re-plumb the lines so that it 
terminates into the rubber flex line that fits the 1275 slave. If you 
choose   this, you need a way to support the line near where it 
connects to the rubber hose.

I hope that helps.

Peter C

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Sep  8 10:53:28 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:53:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
In-Reply-To: <C1C33C1DD887429EB4F2EBF2360C65B4@personal>
Message-ID: <20080908165405.8DE61187645@autox.team.net>

If you can't afford to buy the wrench, I don't think you can afford the car
it comes with. You see I just found out the car is worth $12k to $15k in its
original unrestored condition. Maybe much less without the complete King
Dick tool kit.
		Crash


Don't think I said I wanted it free but am not willing to pay an arm and leg

either.

Copy is no good, it will be part of my show package.

$750 is a bit much without the car attached, LOL.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 11:50:37 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:50:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
In-Reply-To: <20080908.084018.13078.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080908.084018.13078.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809081050g677d6938x74109de1be16fa78@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

To the best of my knowledge the MKII tank will fit just fine. Congrats on
getting it running!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> So for the past 4 weeks, I ve been working on getting the Bugeye s brakes
> functioning. In the process, it ngot polyurethane bushings all the way
> around
> the suspension, plus my racing springs in front, one new (refilled and
> bled)
> shock on the driver s side, and the disc brake setup cannibalized from my
> MKII. I had to find a rebuild kit for one of the rear wheel cylinders
> (those
> were from the MKII originally also) on Friday to get the brakes completed.
> Yesterday, I worked on getting tires that weren t dry rotted on (185/70-13
> DOT
> race tires at this point on Vega GT rims), bleeding the brakes out again,
> and
> hot-wiring the ignition. It turned over very well initially, but wouldn t
> fire
> (This was where the original problem was and why it was parked) I checked
> the
> cap and rotor-new, but there was no electrical connection between sides of
> the
> points (I originally suspected shorted points), so a push or two with a
> needle
> file corrected that, a shot of starting fluid, and VROOM-It runs!! 45psi
> oil
> pressure at idle, revs well, stays cool -Amazing little cars aren't they!
> The
> ignition switch needs some attention, as do the electricals for the lights.
> I
> went to take it out for a spin, put 2 gal of gas in, and saw it was
> dripping
> onto my foot! Five pinholes in the tank!  Next project!
>
> So, a question to the list, will the MKII tank and filler tube fit the
> bugeye?
> That tank was professionally cleaned and has never seen a drop since.
> TIA and Hoorah!
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Sep  8 12:04:25 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:04:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275/carb question
Message-ID: <48C506B9.558.A7861B@dmg.bossig.com>

12CCDAH + twin SU's...
Carbs balanced with good plug color at low revs.
A litlle bit of a stumble or hunting when idling.
But, bring it up to ~3000rpm and, I can hear a sort of 'spitting' noise coming 
from the rear carb...
I'm going to replace the head with a rebuilt one anyway but a suggestion as 
to what's happening would be helpful...
After a week or so, I'm stumped !!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 12:12:33 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:12:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC content,
	(maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Just wondering if there was anything to do around there besides visit the
General Lee? Or is this going to be a long 3 weeks......"

Greg,
I don't believe I've ever been to Perry County myself.  A quick web search
shows us that the county seat is "Hazard", which probably explains your
reference to the General Lee.  The Dukes of Hazard show from the 70's was not
situated in Kentucky, so unless some enterprising person there has determined
that they can capitalize on dumb Yankees who don't know any better visiting
and spending cash in the process, I doubt there will be anything related
there.  On the other hand, in Western KY there's a litle town called Sturgis,
where once a year about 30 thousand bikers gather for a weekend called "Little
Sturgis", but I digress...
 
Regarding what there might be to do in Perry County - I hope for your sake you
ask this in jest.  Eastern Kentucky has some beautiful geography, interesting
foods, wonderful twisty sportscar roads (kind of loosely LBC content??), and
very friendly people - to a point.  If you go down there with the attitude
that it is a boring little podunk wide spot in the road, you will quickly find
those friendly faces leaving you there to sit through your ordeal alone and
bored in your hotel room - the idea being they don't really want those types
of people to return anyway.  (you of course know the old joke - "What's the
difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee?" - Yankees go home...)
 
On the other hand, if you show up with a smile on your face, a willingness to
learn a few things, and an open mind, maybe one of the local guys will take
you out to meet friends or home to eat dinner with the family.  It really is a
beautiful area. 
 
Whatever you do, don't show up with the atitude that Jersey and NYC have
everything worth having or experiencing.  Believe me we don't.  There's a lot
to be said for quiet, green, open places.  If nothing else, how long has it
been since you've seen a night sky that was truly black?  In Kentucky, you
will be able to see thousands upon thousands of stars - not just the 50 or one
hundred brightest ones we can see from here. 
 
Take a pair of hiking boots and a camera, but make sure you either walk with a
local or in a designated park.  Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
kindly, but that's another story.
 
 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island

 

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 12:31:04 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:31:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC content,
	(maybe)?
Message-ID: <438204.95606.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Just wondering if there was anything to do around there besides visit the
General Lee? Or is this going to be a long 3 weeks......"

Greg,
I don't believe I've ever been to Perry County myself.  A quick web search
shows us that the county seat is "Hazard", which probably explains your
reference to the General Lee.  The Dukes of Hazard show from the 70's was not
situated in Kentucky, so unless some enterprising person there has determined
that they can capitalize on dumb Yankees who don't know any better visiting
and spending cash in the process, I doubt there will be anything related
there.  On the other hand, in Western KY there's a litle town called Sturgis,
where once a year about 30 thousand bikers gather for a weekend called "Little
Sturgis", but I digress...
 
Regarding what there might be to do in Perry County - I hope for your sake you
ask this in jest.  Eastern Kentucky has some beautiful geography, interesting
foods, wonderful twisty sportscar roads (kind of loosely LBC content??), and
very friendly people - to a point.  If you go down there with the attitude
that it is a boring little podunk wide spot in the road, you will quickly find
those friendly faces leaving you there to sit through your ordeal alone and
bored in your hotel room - the idea being they don't really want those types
of people to return anyway.  (you of course know the old joke - "What's the
difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee?" - Yankees go home...)
 
On the other hand, if you show up with a smile on your face, a willingness to
learn a few things, and an open mind, maybe one of the local guys will take
you out to meet friends or home to eat dinner with the family.  It really is a
beautiful area. 
 
Whatever you do, don't show up with the atitude that Jersey and NYC have
everything worth having or experiencing.  Believe me we don't.  There's a lot
to be said for quiet, green, open places.  If nothing else, how long has it
been since you've seen a night sky that was truly black?  In Kentucky, you
will be able to see thousands upon thousands of stars - not just the 50 or one
hundred brightest ones we can see from here. 
 
Take a pair of hiking boots and a camera, but make sure you either walk with a
local or in a designated park.  Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
kindly, but that's another story.
 
 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island

 

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  8 13:36:53 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:36:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Still looking
In-Reply-To: <C6D07F6260D14DDEBCA440DCA1A8DF4E@personal>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEHCDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Is that disc or drum Ed?>>

Drum, Jack.  To make correct for use with disc just add a stub-axle
"spacer"!!

POC

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  8 13:40:45 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:40:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEHDDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
kindly, but that's another story.>>

Now THAT David, does qualify for the Top Ten Understatement List!! LOL

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep  8 12:44:26 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:44:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C5728A.4060409@frontiernet.net>

> When you check in to your hotel, ask where you can get the best Country Ham and biscuits. That is bound to get you off to a good start and a great breakfast.
>   
    Kate


> On the other hand, if you show up with a smile on your face, a willingness to
> learn a few things, and an open mind, maybe one of the local guys will take
> you out to meet friends or home to eat dinner with the family.  It really is a
> beautiful area. 

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 12:51:22 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com>
	<926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d66433d0809081151r37297917q4d3eb74982734001@mail.gmail.com>

David,

First time round I missed the "little" in front of Sturgis.  My bad.
I'm not a big biker anyway.....
-

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:12 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Just wondering if there was anything to do around there besides visit the
> General Lee? Or is this going to be a long 3 weeks......"
> Greg,
> I don't believe I've ever been to Perry County myself.  A quick web search
> shows us that the county seat is "Hazard", which probably explains your
> reference to the General Lee.  The Dukes of Hazard show from the 70's was
> not situated in Kentucky, so unless some enterprising person there has
> determined that they can capitalize on dumb Yankees who don't know any
> better visiting and spending cash in the process, I doubt there will be
> anything related there.  On the other hand, in Western KY there's a litle
> town called Sturgis, where once a year about 30 thousand bikers gather for a
> weekend called "Little Sturgis", but I digress...
>
> Regarding what there might be to do in Perry County - I hope for your sake
> you ask this in jest.  Eastern Kentucky has some beautiful geography,
> interesting foods, wonderful twisty sportscar roads (kind of loosely LBC
> content??), and very friendly people - to a point.  If you go down there
> with the attitude that it is a boring little podunk wide spot in the road,
> you will quickly find those friendly faces leaving you there to sit through
> your ordeal alone and bored in your hotel room - the idea being they don't
> really want those types of people to return anyway.  (you of course know the
> old joke - "What's the difference between a Yankee and a Damn Yankee?" -
> Yankees go home...)
>
> On the other hand, if you show up with a smile on your face, a willingness
> to learn a few things, and an open mind, maybe one of the local guys will
> take you out to meet friends or home to eat dinner with the family.  It
> really is a beautiful area.
>
> Whatever you do, don't show up with the atitude that Jersey and NYC have
> everything worth having or experiencing.  Believe me we don't.  There's a
> lot to be said for quiet, green, open places.  If nothing else, how long has
> it been since you've seen a night sky that was truly black?  In Kentucky,
> you will be able to see thousands upon thousands of stars - not just the 50
> or one hundred brightest ones we can see from here.
>
> Take a pair of hiking boots and a camera, but make sure you either walk with
> a local or in a designated park.  Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt
> with kindly, but that's another story.
>
>  - David
> '71 Midget
> Long Island
>
>
>



-- 
Greg Groiss
Bayville, NJ

"WARNING: The Bass Master General has determined that coffee is good
for your health!"

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 12:51:39 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEHDDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <395368.1287.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

<<Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
kindly, but that's another story.>>

"Now THAT David, does qualify for the Top Ten Understatement List!! LOL"

Ed,
Have you ever come across one of those signs that say "If you can read this,
you're in range"?  That will tend to turn you around in your tracks for
sure...
 - David

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  8 12:53:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:53:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
In-Reply-To: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com>
	<926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CBC9DDB3BA44498F869411F6DBC05988@spider>

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is an American
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States>  motorcycle
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle>  rally held annually in Sturgis
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis,_South_Dakota> , South
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dakota>  Dakota each first full week of
August.

>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis_Motorcycle_Rally

.bill

=================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of David Booker
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:13 AM
To: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net; Gregory Groiss
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
content,(maybe)?

 

Greg,

 . . .  On the other hand, in Western KY there's a litle town called
Sturgis,

where once a year about 30 thousand bikers gather for a weekend called
"Little

Sturgis", but I digress...

  . . .

 

- David

'71 Midget

Long Island

_______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  8 13:58:49 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:58:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <366044.58595.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEHFDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I live 5 or 6 miles from the seller, and stopped in yesterday at the
dealer. Quite an experience, but that's another story. >>

Do he really have all that 'Merican Iron' pictured, Ron??

<<Beware - the car is nowhere near as nice as the photos. It's way, way
overbid at the moment, IMHO. The BIN price is ridiculous.>>

Got up to $8100 and did not sell even after 'reserve lowered'<G>!!

The Sprite Abarth Muffler DID sell for $485+!!!!!  Yikes!

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 12:59:10 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:59:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <48C5728A.4060409@frontiernet.net>
References: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48C5728A.4060409@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809081159r6a684196g85cdccbe2ce8dc6e@mail.gmail.com>

I've already sent him my 2 cents off list, but it should be noted that
"cat head" biscuits have nothing to do with cats.  It is merely  a
descriptor of size.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> When you check in to your hotel, ask where you can get the best Country Ham and biscuits. That is bound to get you off to a good start and a great breakfast.
>>
>    Kate
>
>
>> On the other hand, if you show up with a smile on your face, a willingness to
>> learn a few things, and an open mind, maybe one of the local guys will take
>> you out to meet friends or home to eat dinner with the family.  It really is a
>> beautiful area.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  8 14:00:42 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:00:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <395368.1287.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEHFDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Have you ever come across one of those signs that say "If you can read
this, you're in range"?  That will tend to turn you around in your tracks
for sure...>>

A    M    E    N    !!!!!!!  LOL

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  8 13:42:37 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:42:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809081050g677d6938x74109de1be16fa78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4EACE3D.19854%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  the MKII tank will fit just fine.
You'll have to use a connector hose to attach the filler tube.
The Canadian tanks are good quality.

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Mon Sep  8 14:02:58 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:02:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275/carb question
In-Reply-To: <48C506B9.558.A7861B@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48C506B9.558.A7861B@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48C584F2.3000908@lehigh.edu>

Dave,
Leaking #3 or #4 intake valve, which you could verify with a leak down test.
John
Fogelsville, PA


Dave G. wrote:
> 12CCDAH + twin SU's...
> Carbs balanced with good plug color at low revs.
> A litlle bit of a stumble or hunting when idling.
> But, bring it up to ~3000rpm and, I can hear a sort of 'spitting' noise coming 
> from the rear carb...
> I'm going to replace the head with a rebuilt one anyway but a suggestion as 
> to what's happening would be helpful...
> After a week or so, I'm stumped !!

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Sep  8 14:20:02 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:20:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
Message-ID: <20080908.142002.11593.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Thanks, Folks, I was wanting to save myself the trouble of fitting it up and
then finding that the filler wouldn't attach correctly. Since my daughter's a
little person, I'll send her into the boot to assemble things. BTW, she was a
bit miffed when I first mentioned 'Midget' as a car (it's not a well received
term for little people) but after I'd explained things, she's OK with it, in
fact, she thinks she might be able to drive the BE, but that's Dad's call, not
hers.
So, just a request, remember that not everyone thinks cars when you say
"Midget" and some might take offense where none is intended-FYI


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep  8 14:36:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809081159r6a684196g85cdccbe2ce8dc6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48C5728A.4060409@frontiernet.net>
	<8c1781040809081159r6a684196g85cdccbe2ce8dc6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <595E0F00-66F6-42AD-833F-FCA5E8D30308@comcast.net>

.. then why do we keep getting just the bodies back??

Lester

.. well, someone had to say it...



On Sep 8, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:

> I've already sent him my 2 cents off list, but it should be noted that
> "cat head" biscuits have nothing to do with cats.  It is merely  a
> descriptor of size.
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>  
> wrote:
>>> When you check in to your hotel, ask where you can get the best  
>>> Country Ham and biscuits. That is bound to get you off to a good  
>>> start and a great breakfast.
>>>
>>    Kate

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep  8 14:40:44 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:40:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
References: <20080908.142002.11593.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <32672F242F9D4215A5A9F974A257CAC3@NilesAD.von.gov>

> So, just a request, remember that not everyone thinks cars when you say
> "Midget" and some might take offense where none is intended-FYI

Yeah, I remember telling a friend about going to see the Midget races inside 
the Rosemont Horizon here in Chicagoland one time. These were the USAC 
Midget racers that look like small sprint cars, not the MG variety. His 
buddy was standing there and you could just see the wheels going around 
inside his head as he was visualizing a whole mess of little people running 
laps in the arena. Come to think of it, that might have been more "normal" 
than squirting Coca-cola syrup on the concrete inside the arena and running 
a bunch of USAC Midgets around...
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep  8 14:42:39 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:42:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
References: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com><926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CBC9DDB3BA44498F869411F6DBC05988@spider>
Message-ID: <6BF6162D68894235B1E2C65E9755F08E@NilesAD.von.gov>

Subject: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
> The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is an American  motorcycle rally held 
> annually in Sturgis, South
Dakota each first full week of August.
>>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis_Motorcycle_Rally

Hence his use of the term "Little Sturgis" for the Kentucky event.
Not that different from the Chicagoland MG Club having a summer party in 
Abingdon, Illinois. 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 16:54:28 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEHFDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <959772.78541.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> Do he really have all that 'Merican Iron' pictured,
> Ron??

Yes. 

> Got up to $8100 and did not sell even after 'reserve
> lowered'<G>!!

Shill bidding, no doubt.

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 17:13:10 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:13:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <d66433d0809080531scf9f8a0k272ba36533b0ec24@mail.gmail.com>
	<926874.31811.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809081613ye959f46lf2861fcd9b3f2c47@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
On the other hand, in Western KY there's a litle town called Sturgis,
> where once a year about 30 thousand bikers gather for a weekend called
> "Little
> Sturgis", but I digress...  <snip>


FWIW, there is also a "Little Sturgis" each year in Sturgis, MS....


>   Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
> kindly, but that's another story.


City boy, huh? Squeal like a pig, city boy.....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Sep  8 18:13:17 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:13:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <395368.1287.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080909001357.4A93F187870@autox.team.net>

My favorite no trespassing sign; Warning NO TRESPASSING survivors will be
prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.
		Crash


<<Tresspassing is not looked upon or dealt with
kindly, but that's another story.>>

"Now THAT David, does qualify for the Top Ten Understatement List!! LOL"

Ed,
Have you ever come across one of those signs that say "If you can read this,
you're in range"?  That will tend to turn you around in your tracks for
sure...
 - David

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  8 19:54:16 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 18:54:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
Message-ID: <478608.30970.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks David - that's exactly right.  And the real Surgis has WAAAAAAAAY more
than a few thousand bikers show up.  Try www.littlesturgisrally.net for this
one.  Turns out I overestimated the crowd - it was just shy of 16,000 this
year - not the 30 I guesstimated.
 
 - David
   

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com, "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 3:42 PM

Subject: [Spridgets] isn't the motorcycle Sturgis in SD?
> The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally is an American  motorcycle rally held
> annually in Sturgis, South
Dakota each first full week of August.
>>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgis_Motorcycle_Rally

Hence his use of the term "Little Sturgis" for the Kentucky event.
Not that different from the Chicagoland MG Club having a summer party in
Abingdon, Illinois.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  8 22:00:18 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 22:00:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
In-Reply-To: <436620.8741.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEKCDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

1546 now, Will<G>!

And they ADDED:   "Reached 10 for minute"  <F>!!

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Sep  8 22:54:12 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 23:54:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEKCDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <436620.8741.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEKCDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0809082154i4ba53aa1ofbd0ab40e148b1ae@mail.gmail.com>

And over 2000 now

On 9/8/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> 1546 now, Will<G>!
>
> And they ADDED:   "Reached 10 for minute"  <F>!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 00:15:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 01:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Perry County Kentucky with a tiny bit of LBC
 content, (maybe)?
In-Reply-To: <20080909001357.4A93F187870@autox.team.net>
References: <395368.1287.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20080909001357.4A93F187870@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809082315l3cd6c539obdbcfb80fb6683a9@mail.gmail.com>

Most effective one I ever saw said, "Trespassers will be violated".

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 7:13 PM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> My favorite no trespassing sign; Warning NO TRESPASSING survivors will be
> prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.
>                Crash

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 03:28:44 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:28:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite silver & red on eBay interesting but...........
Message-ID: <205cef430809090228m20b074cco3af27b1591ad62b8@mail.gmail.com>

List,

Interesting to see these colors silver with red stripe on the square body
Sprite but wouldn't it look more appropriate with a 66 instead of 59 for the
race number? Check ebay 180287367190?



http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=59-Austin-Healey-Sprite



Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"

www.freewes.com/lgrunthaner

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 03:31:08 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:31:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
In-Reply-To: <436620.8741.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <436620.8741.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430809090231j33861a68y12a55f8800255180@mail.gmail.com>

2518 now : )
Linda

On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:08 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> My sons girl friend has her dog in this contest. She would love to be in
> the
> competition. You can Vote more then once with out clearing cash. Some of
> the
> dogs have over 4000 votes. She is at 512 now. She now figures she is out of
> it. I told her not to give up - you never know. It would be really nice to
> see
> the number climb and for her dog to win. If you have a few minutes please
> go
> to this link and Vote for Billie.
>
> Come vote for my entry in the My Dog's Face contest at OCRegister.com.
>
> You can find the entry here:
>
> http://ocregister.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?contestid=2913&pagetype=VOT
> ING&SubmissionID=181274<http://ocregister.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?contestid=2913&pagetype=VOTING&SubmissionID=181274>
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5os5md
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Vigil
> So Cal
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 03:41:08 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:41:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <366044.58595.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <366044.58595.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430809090241j2f90bb63pd6ba9a24c84289e4@mail.gmail.com>

I still do not understand how anyone would sell a very clean Spridget and
not put the emblem on it before listing. Is $20-$30 too much? It's like
going to the prom without lipstick on.
Linda
PS I was checking out the tires too very nice and perhaps still have a 1993
date on them?

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I live 5 or 6 miles from the seller, and stopped in yesterday at the
> dealer. Quite an experience, but that's another story. Beware - the car is
> nowhere near as nice as the photos. It's way, way overbid at the moment,
> IMHO. The BIN price is ridiculous.
>
> Ebay Item number: 370081785195
>
> Ron
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 03:58:59 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:58:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
In-Reply-To: <20080908.084018.13078.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
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Do all Chevy Vega rims fit our Spridgets?
Linda

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> So for the past 4 weeks, I ve been working on getting the Bugeye s brakes
> functioning. In the process, it ngot polyurethane bushings all the way
> around
> the suspension, plus my racing springs in front, one new (refilled and
> bled)
> shock on the driver s side, and the disc brake setup cannibalized from my
> MKII. I had to find a rebuild kit for one of the rear wheel cylinders
> (those
> were from the MKII originally also) on Friday to get the brakes completed.
> Yesterday, I worked on getting tires that weren t dry rotted on (185/70-13
> DOT
> race tires at this point on Vega GT rims), bleeding the brakes out again,
> and
> hot-wiring the ignition. It turned over very well initially, but wouldn t
> fire
> (This was where the original problem was and why it was parked) I checked
> the
> cap and rotor-new, but there was no electrical connection between sides of
> the
> points (I originally suspected shorted points), so a push or two with a
> needle
> file corrected that, a shot of starting fluid, and VROOM-It runs!! 45psi
> oil
> pressure at idle, revs well, stays cool -Amazing little cars aren't they!
> The
> ignition switch needs some attention, as do the electricals for the lights.
> I
> went to take it out for a spin, put 2 gal of gas in, and saw it was
> dripping
> onto my foot! Five pinholes in the tank!  Next project!
>
> So, a question to the list, will the MKII tank and filler tube fit the
> bugeye?
> That tank was professionally cleaned and has never seen a drop since.
> TIA and Hoorah!
>
>
> Mark Haynes
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 04:03:10 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:03:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Mess
In-Reply-To: <48C2BD30.9060909@comcast.net>
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Frank,
I will donate my Bugeye bonnet to the Holy Sprite is you need it.
Linda

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> In trying to fit the Holy Bonnet to the Holy Sprite I have found some
> DPO has altered the radiator air shroud which moved the locating pegs by
> only one inch.
> And I found out why the hinge adjustment keeps moving.
> The hinge pockets have been ripped out of the firewall. The whole cowl
> is loose along the top welds and the pockets for the hinges are actually
> ripped a couple inches across the firewall, you can see the rip open up
> when you wiggle the hinges.
> All I can think of is the original bonnet must have flew open to do this
> damage. I hope I can get it back where it belongs and welded up. I
> already cut the PO welds and the pegs will move the inch they need to.
> But now Hanna is starting to kick up and there is no room in the garage
> to weld with all the parts, 2 Sprites, and the bonnet.
> The car is still outside and my brother and I got it back up on the jack
> stands after I accidentally nudged to too hard last night and it fell
> off the stands.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 04:05:10 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:05:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 89 Sea Ray
In-Reply-To: <473085.44143.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <473085.44143.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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What's a Sea Ray?
Linda

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:17 PM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> On our '89 Sea Ray Choke is mechanical. Can't really help on this one but
> be
> aware there is a ballast resistor on the coil. 12 VDC at start and about
> 8-9VDC running. My procedure is simply pull throttle sideways to take out
> of
> gear, depress once to set choke and leave slightly advanced. Start engine
> with
> hand on throttle to retard. Go skiing.
>
> We had rebuilt engine installed and the stupid yahoo installed without
> ballast
> resistor in place. Engine ran like a scalded dog until coils melted down.
> After the fourth one and getting towed in 3 times, a competent mechanic
> gave
> me the secret. Ballast resistor is little tiny thing connected to + side of
> the coil. Look for it, it should be there. There is a Start Relay that
> feeds
> 12 VDC to the coil that is actualted when the key is turned to start
> position.
> Otherwide 8-9VDC is fed to the coil.
>
> I was able to find a Motors MAnual on Mercruiser complete with Wiring
> Diagram
> at the local library.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 04:06:50 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:06:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] a NY moment - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F400D2437BBEEEAD1041D2EB8590@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F400D2437BBEEEAD1041D2EB8590@phx.gbl>
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I wish I had one : ) hehehehehe
Linda

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> wrote:

> http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080904/K090406AU.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 04:13:38 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:13:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dead battery and alternator?
In-Reply-To: <20080904.092520.23464.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080904.092520.23464.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
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Very interesting information. Good to know.
Linda

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:25 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Listers -
>
> This topic reminded me of a solution learned from riding old motorcycles.
> Frequently a battery would "fail" due to sulfating (sulfate build-up
> causing a
> short between the plates of two cells), which resulted from letting the
> water
> get too low, too many times.  The answer was to pull the battery off and
> bang
> it on the curb a couple of times.  This knocked the deposits off and would
> allow me to get home.
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
> -- "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> >I left my lights on when I went to work this morning and needed a jump to
> >get started inorder to get home.  I drove 35 minutes home on and off of
> >highways at 3500-4000rpm.  I stopped to get a haircut andd then couldn't
> >get the car started again without another jump.  I have no idea how old
> the
> >battery is (from previous owner) but shouldn't the alternator have
> >recharged the battery enough to start the car in that time?
>
> Ryan,
> A bad battery can kill a good alternator and a bad alternator can kill a
> good battery. Also, some batteries (especially Exide and Mopar in my
> experience), when completely discharged will not recover completely.
> Frequently one cell will lose its ability to hold a charge. Put a charger
> on
> it for a while, then disconnect the charger and check the voltage across
> the
> posts. Should be about 13.2VDC. Then hit the starter once and then measure
> the voltage across the posts again. If it has dropped to about 10.5VDC or
> lower, you have one or more cells that do not hold a charge. Replace the
> battery.
>
> OTOH, it is perfectly possible that you blew the alternator in the process
> of jump starting the car twice. If you can jump or push start the car, rev
> it up to 2000rpm and see what the battery voltage across the posts is. If
> it
> is around 14.5VDC or so, the alternator is probably happy. Otherwise, pull
> it off and see if Pep Boys will test it for you. I know Murrays and
> AutoZone
> will.
> David Lieb
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep  9 06:46:46 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:46:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Watkins Glen experience
Message-ID: <007d01c9127a$1edbc840$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Arrived home from Watkins Glen, last night.  My son and I had a
fantastic time, as expected.  This year, I decided to take our '72
Midget (in spite of a differential pinion seal leak), instead of my
Porsche 356B coupe, since the weather was forecast to be pretty nice, in
general, with only one "rain day".  While the Midget is a very tight fit
for my 6'2" son, and all of our "stuff" (except for beer & coolers,
which we bought in Watkins Glen), the car was an absolute delight all
weekend, in spite of the starter solenoid crapping-out, totally, for the
trip home, yesterday.
If you look very carefully at the photos in the upcoming Classic
Motorsports article on the Triumph celebration, you may see my Midget in
the background.....it was the only MG "authorized" to be in the Triumph
compound, near the pedestrian bridge at the entrance to the front
straight (I'm a member of one of the sponsoring Triumph clubs).  
A couple of interesting stories:
The teenage daughter of the B&B owner, where we stayed, was quite
smitten by the Midget, and totally ignored the TVR 2500M and Miata of
the other guests.
On the return trip, my Midget inspired an upcoming '67 Sprite
resurrection.  Yeah, that's right.  You see, one of our local Triumph
club guys, driving an extremely nice TR-8, was so impressed with how the
Midget ate up the back roads we were traveling on, as well as how well
it went in a straight line ("Is that engine STOCK?"  Me: "Yes"  Him:
"Man, that thing really screams") that he has made the decision to take
over the stalled restoration by and of his son's '67 Sprite, so that he
can get back in on the fun, again (he's a former Spridget guy from the
60s).
Fuel economy: between 32 & just under 36 MPG all weekend.  Like I
mentioned; stock 1275, but a Jeff Schlemmer-restored distributor ensures
that the spark occurs at the correct time, and a BMC Special Tuning LCB
header, and an Abarth muffler (for an MGB) allow exhaust gases to exit
easily.  It's a very "happy" engine and has been together for 25 years.
Crank, rods, & pistons are all original, and really required nothing
when we "freshened" the original engine 25 years ago this summer.
Even after (or should I say "especially" after) those 25 years, I would
feel very comfortable with driving that Midget "any where, any time".

Bud Osbourne

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep  9 06:40:47 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:40:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Watkins Glen experience
In-Reply-To: <007d01c9127a$1edbc840$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <090920081240.7869.48C66ECF0000CA2900001EBD22218675169B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog asked:

Isn't that contradictory?

-------------- Original message from "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>: --------------


...an extremely nice TR-8, ...

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 06:54:10 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:54:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Watkins Glen experience
References: <090920081240.7869.48C66ECF0000CA2900001EBD22218675169B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <C11B1A2D7E8C4D809CD333DDFB467CF4@midget>

>> ...an extremely nice TR-8, ...

> Isn't that contradictory?

Not at all. The TR8 is a fine car. 

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep  9 07:24:22 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:24:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Watkins Glen experience
In-Reply-To: <090920081240.7869.48C66ECF0000CA2900001EBD22218675169B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <008401c9127f$5f9c5fc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Absolutely not.  There are some awesome TR-8s in our local Triumph club.
The TR-8, while not a car I covet, is really a very nice package.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
tinydog at snet.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:41 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Watkins Glen experience


tinydog asked:

Isn't that contradictory?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep  9 07:12:50 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:12:50 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Midget, Item number: 370081785195
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809090241j2f90bb63pd6ba9a24c84289e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37DD505C55C8FDFAF046B3B8540@phx.gbl>

And, you're saying to Ron that it's like going to the prom without lipstick 
on?

Something we don't all know?  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: soavero at yahoo.com

I still do not understand how anyone would sell a very clean Spridget and
not put the emblem on it before listing. Is $20-$30 too much? It's like
going to the prom without lipstick on.
Linda
PS I was checking out the tires too very nice and perhaps still have a 1993
date on them?

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

 > I live 5 or 6 miles from the seller, and stopped in yesterday at the
 > dealer. Quite an experience, but that's another story. Beware - the car 
is
 > nowhere near as nice as the photos. It's way, way overbid at the moment,
 > IMHO. The BIN price is ridiculous.
 >
 > Ebay Item number: 370081785195
 >
 > Ron

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep  9 07:41:46 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:41:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
Message-ID: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

As I mentioned earlier, my starter solenoid decided to take a vacation,
this past weekend.  Of course, this is only the preliminary diagnosis.
I get a good "click", when I move the key to the "start" position, but
no significant dimming of the ignition warning light to indicate that
the starter is drawing current.  Pushing the little red button on the
solenoid produces no response of any kind.
This happened, intermittently, several years ago until I installed a new
battery.  Suddenly, the "starter issue" was only a dim memory.  So,
whatever the fault, a good, hot battery seems to overcome it.  This time
of year, however, I ain't about to put a new battery in just weeks
before winter storage looms.
So, my question(s) to the group is:
 1.) Is the original rebuildable (I haven't even looked at it, yet)?
 2.) What's the dif between the NLA unit listed by Moss (but, like I
said, NLA) and the unit listed for the 1500 (my car is a later 1275)?

Off to work, now, so I'll look forward to reading the responses later.
Thanks, guys.
Bud Osbourne

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep  9 07:27:32 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:27:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
In-Reply-To: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <9316435E075E4C86ABB31D6A6586ADE5@spider>

You might clean all connections starting with the two at the battery.
...bill
=======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Bud Osbourne
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 6:42 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids

As I mentioned earlier, my starter solenoid decided to take a vacation,
this past weekend.  Of course, this is only the preliminary diagnosis.
I get a good "click", when I move the key to the "start" position, but
no significant dimming of the ignition warning light to indicate that
the starter is drawing current.  Pushing the little red button on the
solenoid produces no response of any kind.
This happened, intermittently, several years ago until I installed a new
battery.  Suddenly, the "starter issue" was only a dim memory.  So,
whatever the fault, a good, hot battery seems to overcome it.  This time
of year, however, I ain't about to put a new battery in just weeks
before winter storage looms.
So, my question(s) to the group is:
 1.) Is the original rebuildable (I haven't even looked at it, yet)?
 2.) What's the dif between the NLA unit listed by Moss (but, like I
said, NLA) and the unit listed for the 1500 (my car is a later 1275)?

Off to work, now, so I'll look forward to reading the responses later.
Thanks, guys.
Bud Osbourne
_______________________________________________

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  9 07:47:46 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 06:47:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809090231j33861a68y12a55f8800255180@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <362339.35697.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow - thanks to all that are helping
 
Vigil

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vote for Billie - no LBC
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Sprite" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>,
"Midget/Sprite" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 2:31 AM



2518 now : )
Linda


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:08 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:


My sons girl friend has her dog in this contest. She would love to be in the
competition. You can Vote more then once with out clearing cash. Some of the
dogs have over 4000 votes. She is at 512 now. She now figures she is out of
it. I told her not to give up - you never know. It would be really nice to
see
the number climb and for her dog to win. If you have a few minutes please go
to this link and Vote for Billie.

Come vote for my entry in the My Dog's Face contest at OCRegister.com.

You can find the entry here:
http://ocregister.upickem.net/engine/Details.aspx?contestid=2913&pagetype=VOT
ING&SubmissionID=181274

or

http://tinyurl.com/5os5md

Thanks for your help,

Vigil
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 08:01:32 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:01:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
References: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <4687315EE4AF4211928CE95C315BC8B6@NilesAD.von.gov>

> 1.) Is the original rebuildable (I haven't even looked at it, yet)?
> 2.) What's the dif between the NLA unit listed by Moss (but, like I
> said, NLA) and the unit listed for the 1500 (my car is a later 1275)?

1. Probably not.
2. The button between the posts is no longer there (darn!) and there are a 
couple of additional connections that you can ignore. They are there so that 
the solenoid can bypass the external ballast while cranking.

It will work fine for you as long as you can figure out which connections to 
ignore ;-)
David Lieb 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Sep  9 08:54:59 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 07:54:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
Message-ID: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com>

I'm not sure of the back spacing, but bolt pattern, yes. Both Spridgets
and Vegas have a 4 bolt 4 inch circle.
 
-=Chris (who has a Midget and a Vega)

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner at gmail.com]
Sent: 9/9/2008 5:56:59 AM
To: haynes386 at netzero.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's Alive! 

Do all Chevy Vega rims fit our Spridgets? 
Linda 

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
wrote: 

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Sep  9 09:07:24 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:07:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alloy Wheels On Ebay
Message-ID: <200809091507.m89F7OlZ004142@green.excel.net>

In case any of you are interested, I have five alloys wheels for sale on
Ebay, listed under '13" Vintage Alloy Wheels'. Masking and repainting would
be a snap, and it looks like they will probably go very cheap. I wish I could
use them.

Bud Pazur

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep  9 09:12:28 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:12:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
In-Reply-To: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <48C6925C.2080103@lehigh.edu>

I can't answer the original question of whether ALL Vega wheels will 
fit, but need to mention that they should not be used with Spridget 3/8 
lug nuts. Some of the after market 3/8, 60 degree lug nuts may work, but 
stock nuts can pull through. Not safe. Racers that used Vega wheels had 
changed over to 7/16 studs with there larger lug nuts.
John
Fogelsville, PA

Chris King wrote:
> I'm not sure of the back spacing, but bolt pattern, yes. Both Spridgets
> and Vegas have a 4 bolt 4 inch circle.
>  
> -=Chris (who has a Midget and a Vega)

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 09:23:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:23:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
References: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com>
	<48C6925C.2080103@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <1DBBD788635440ABBD1ADEEBF895F665@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I can't answer the original question of whether ALL Vega wheels will
> fit, but need to mention that they should not be used with Spridget 3/8
> lug nuts. Some of the after market 3/8, 60 degree lug nuts may work, but
> stock nuts can pull through. Not safe. Racers that used Vega wheels had
> changed over to 7/16 studs with there larger lug nuts.

The 3/8" nuts that come with the Minitor rims work very well with Vega rims. 
They use a 13/16" lug wrench and have plenty of meat to keep from pulling 
throufh, although you DO have to make sure that they are properly centered 
before you torque them down. I believe the Monza/Astre/Sunbird cars also 
used 4-on-4. Anyone have an old Monza rear axle laying around?
David Lieb 

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Sep  9 10:30:56 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  89 Sea Ray
Message-ID: <20080909163139.5238018767E@autox.team.net>

Isn't that what killed the crocodile guy????
		Crash


What's a Sea Ray?
Linda

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Sep  9 10:39:39 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:39:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
References: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com><48C6925C.2080103@lehigh.edu>
	<1DBBD788635440ABBD1ADEEBF895F665@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <3D8DB8361B0441CD8BA4FA03BB37B1DB@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

The Vega rims fit very well and are usually sought by Morris Minor owners to 
mount a little more meat to their moggies.  The original Morris rims are 
14", but a nice wide high profile 13" suits the cars very well.  I've got a 
set of Vega wheels in the back waiting for my Morris truck project.  I kept 
the original 145/70/14s on my wife's Morris Traveller, but the skinny tires 
are hard to find and wouldn't be as practical on a truck.  For a Sprite, 
should be fine.

Glen Byrns 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 10:41:45 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:41:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 89 Sea Ray
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809090305g51949ac4j5d3c16e63b1b4c7c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <473085.44143.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<205cef430809090305g51949ac4j5d3c16e63b1b4c7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809090941y4cef09f9r3ba8e3c829d2a68c@mail.gmail.com>

Sea Ray is a very good manufacturer of boats.  They make little ski
boats and some nice, small cruisers, as well as some nice yachts.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 10:44:54 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:44:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
In-Reply-To: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <008501c91281$cdab3340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809090944g1eb29c95l6a48d1fca2feedb3@mail.gmail.com>

Bud,

Are you certain it is the solenoid?  Try putting 12V across the starter
first to see if it turns. My 68 did this just before LotO - nice load click
but no joy at the starter. It was the starter gone south due to my own
stupidity when over tightening the wire and breaking the strap inside loose.
Of course, if the starter turns then it is good and the problem is probably
the solenoid. Also, do a search of the archives. Not too long ago someone
mentioned a modern auto parts store solenoid which will work. I think it was
a Ford part.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> As I mentioned earlier, my starter solenoid decided to take a vacation,
> this past weekend.  Of course, this is only the preliminary diagnosis.
> I get a good "click", when I move the key to the "start" position, but
> no significant dimming of the ignition warning light to indicate that
> the starter is drawing current.  Pushing the little red button on the
> solenoid produces no response of any kind.
> This happened, intermittently, several years ago until I installed a new
> battery.  Suddenly, the "starter issue" was only a dim memory.  So,
> whatever the fault, a good, hot battery seems to overcome it.  This time
> of year, however, I ain't about to put a new battery in just weeks
> before winter storage looms.
> So, my question(s) to the group is:
>  1.) Is the original rebuildable (I haven't even looked at it, yet)?
>  2.) What's the dif between the NLA unit listed by Moss (but, like I
> said, NLA) and the unit listed for the 1500 (my car is a later 1275)?
>
> Off to work, now, so I'll look forward to reading the responses later.
> Thanks, guys.
> Bud Osbourne
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  9 10:54:27 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:54:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  89 Sea Ray
In-Reply-To: <20080909163139.5238018767E@autox.team.net>
References: <20080909163139.5238018767E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48C6AA43.3090904@frontiernet.net>

That was a sting ray, dork.  BTW, I made a reservation for Wednesday 
night at the Eldorado in Reno.  I should be checking in between 4:30 - 
5:00.  I think I sent you my cell number already.

Kate

David Ramsey wrote:
> Isn't that what killed the crocodile guy????
> 		Crash
>
>
> What's a Sea Ray?
> Linda
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  9 10:56:01 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
In-Reply-To: <3D8DB8361B0441CD8BA4FA03BB37B1DB@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <bb9f01c9128c$07af7330$116a010a@mail2world.com><48C6925C.2080103@lehigh.edu>
	<1DBBD788635440ABBD1ADEEBF895F665@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<3D8DB8361B0441CD8BA4FA03BB37B1DB@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <48C6AAA1.2050804@frontiernet.net>

It's been a long time since I had one, but I think Corvair rims will 
also fit.

Kate

Glen Byrns wrote:
> The Vega rims fit very well and are usually sought by Morris Minor owners to 
> mount a little more meat to their moggies.  

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 13:12:49 2008
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:12:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alloy Wheels On Ebay
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0809091212s5815e4c7h4f20d57ae303ddb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bud, would these fit a 78 Midget?
That's item # 200252863730 right?

Rick Bastedo
Snoqualmie, WA.



> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:07:24 -0500
> From: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Alloy Wheels On Ebay
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <200809091507.m89F7OlZ004142 at green.excel.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> In case any of you are interested, I have five alloys wheels for sale on
> Ebay, listed under '13" Vintage Alloy Wheels'. Masking and repainting would
> be a snap, and it looks like they will probably go very cheap. I wish I
> could
> use them.
>
> Bud Pazur

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 13:18:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:18:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alloy Wheels On Ebay
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0809091212s5815e4c7h4f20d57ae303ddb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0809091212s5815e4c7h4f20d57ae303ddb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090809091218s1515c392m9596aae372e30b29@mail.gmail.com>

Those look like the first generation rostyle wheels, if I am not mistaken.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Bud, would these fit a 78 Midget?
> That's item # 200252863730 right?
>
> Rick Bastedo
> Snoqualmie, WA.
>
>
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:07:24 -0500
> > From: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Alloy Wheels On Ebay
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Message-ID: <200809091507.m89F7OlZ004142 at green.excel.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > In case any of you are interested, I have five alloys wheels for sale on
> > Ebay, listed under '13" Vintage Alloy Wheels'. Masking and repainting
> would
> > be a snap, and it looks like they will probably go very cheap. I wish I
> > could
> > use them.
> >
> > Bud Pazur
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From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Sep  9 13:35:04 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:35:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels
Message-ID: <200809091935.m89JZ4JZ031958@green.excel.net>

>Would these wheels fit a Midget?

I assume that they would fit a Midget if a Midget uses the same size wheels
as a Bugeye. They came with my first race Bugeye.


Bud Pazur

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 13:39:54 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels
References: <200809091935.m89JZ4JZ031958@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <D445F8F508FD49A6B8B8D199B2BD5342@NilesAD.von.gov>

> >Would these wheels fit a Midget?
>
> I assume that they would fit a Midget if a Midget uses the same size 
> wheels
> as a Bugeye. They came with my first race Bugeye.

But they would not look good on a 1500 Midget. They really need an RWA to 
work properly.
david Lieb 

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Sep  9 13:46:51 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:46:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
Message-ID: <E1B9E10E8FFE460585FBA351FB551EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Last weekend I hauled the 1275 out of the Austin A35 and put back the original
948cc.  I told my wife I was going to make Davis' only 50 year old Prius.
Driving it to work for the last two days makes me wonder what I was thinking
when I swapped it out.  The little 948 is smooth, quiet and VERY fuel
efficient.  Of course, I now have to push on the gas and patiently await the
response.  Getting  on the freeway is a very casual affair, taking the entire
on-ramp and a bit more to get to anything like freeway speed.  Still, since I
had the motor dynamically balanced years ago, the smoothness is nice.  The
much reduced HP actually goes better with the car's looks.  I also pulled the
lowering kit and brought it back up to its original ride height.  From a
snarling little wolf-in-sheeps-clothing to a staid little grocery
getter.....oh well, everybody needs groceries.

Conveniently, I now have a 1275 avialable for the Morris truck that is taking
shape next to the garage.  To that end, does anyone have a friend with a parts
Morris?  I still need one or two little things to make it complete.

Regards,
Glen Byrns

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Tue Sep  9 14:08:39 2008
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Update on "Front suspension causing car to have mind of
 its own (and hello)"
Message-ID: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB535DBCF@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Alright - the short version! I tightened the U-bolts that hold the rear axle
on and, while I think it definitely helped, there's still a good bit of sway
whilst driving along. They were certainly not very tight, so I don't think I
can have done any particular harm.



I am wondering whether the swaying is really just a symptom of the more
general feeling I have in the car that the bottom of the car is separated from
the top by a water bed. Every time I turn a corner I feel as if the top is
going to slide off the water-bed and bounce down the road. Does this make it
more likely that it's some sort of front suspension thing?



Any help much appreciated (and beware here, because if I see a sign of life on
this list then I have a separate problem I'm going to foist upon you all!),



Chris

From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  9 14:09:10 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:09:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Differential spacer
Message-ID: <686435.36376.qm@web56007.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm looking for a collapsable spacer for my differential.  It's a later style 3.9:1.  There's too much play and need to take it up.  I see that Moss used to carry them, but dont anymore.  Suggestions?

Thanks,
Mike Rivers 
1961 MG Midget 1275

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Sep  9 14:12:50 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:12:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
In-Reply-To: <E1B9E10E8FFE460585FBA351FB551EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <E1B9E10E8FFE460585FBA351FB551EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <74tht6$4r6d6r@email.mtu.edu>

>Conveniently, I now have a 1275 avialable for the Morris truck that is taking
>shape next to the garage.

>Glen, You are forgetting to post progress pictures!


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep  9 14:30:41 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:30:41 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
In-Reply-To: <E1B9E10E8FFE460585FBA351FB551EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <090920082030.27672.48C6DCF0000DF3AE00006C1822230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

There is always the option to drop in an 850.

 -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>: --------------

Of course, I now have to push on the gas and patiently await the
> response.  Getting  on the freeway is a very casual affair, taking the entire
> on-ramp and a bit more to get to anything like freeway speed. 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Sep  9 14:32:42 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:32:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's Alive!
Message-ID: <2080d01c912bb$3568e160$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Monza/Astre/Sunbird/Starfire/Shyhawk rims are also 4 on 4 - these are
all GM H-body, basically a Vega Mk2.
 
Corvair wheels are 4 on 4.5" - same bolt pattern as Nissan, Mazda,
Toyota RWD, MGBs, early Ford Mustangs...
 
-=Chris


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: 9/9/2008 11:21:23 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's Alive! 

>I can't answer the original question of whether ALL Vega wheels will 
> fit, but need to mention that they should not be used with Spridget
3/8 
> lug nuts. Some of the after market 3/8, 60 degree lug nuts may work,
but 
> stock nuts can pull through. Not safe. Racers that used Vega wheels
had 
> changed over to 7/16 studs with there larger lug nuts. 

The 3/8" nuts that come with the Minitor rims work very well with Vega
rims. 
They use a 13/16" lug wrench and have plenty of meat to keep from
pulling 
throufh, although you DO have to make sure that they are properly
centered 
before you torque them down. I believe the Monza/Astre/Sunbird cars also
used 4-on-4. Anyone have an old Monza rear axle laying around? 
David Lieb 
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  9 14:37:09 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:37:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Update on "Front suspension causing car to have
 mind of its own (and hello)"
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB535DBCF@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB535DBCF@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809091337y1031fd66l94372d27f29ff344@mail.gmail.com>

Are your A-arm fulcrum parts worn?  Kingpins worn?  If so, you will
need to get them fixed or your car will always have trouble.

From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Sep  9 14:47:44 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:47:44 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels
Message-ID: <20080909.134744.20744.4@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

What's the rim width for these wheels?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net> wrote:
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I assume that they would fit a Midget if a Midget uses the same size wheels
as a Bugeye. They came with my first race Bugeye.


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep  9 15:36:45 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:36:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
In-Reply-To: <090920082030.27672.48C6DCF0000DF3AE00006C1822230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <090920082030.27672.48C6DCF0000DF3AE00006C1822230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <3C2CB4A1-3CC8-4FDE-BD63-8A00342AB8BD@comcast.net>

Yup.. 3 cyl 2 stroke 850..  50 hp for sure!

Lester

On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:30 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote:

> tinydog sez:
>
> There is always the option to drop in an 850.
>
>  -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns"  
> <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>: --------------
>
> Of course, I now have to push on the gas and patiently await the
>> response.  Getting  on the freeway is a very casual affair, taking  
>> the entire
>> on-ramp and a bit more to get to anything like freeway speed.
> _______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  9 16:52:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:52:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Re: Vote for Billie - no LBC
In-Reply-To: <00eb01c91298$56875b10$81a30644@internetpc>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEBADHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Done

Cheers,

Bob >>

So go BACK and do it AGAIN, Bob<VBG>!!!    

I have (half dozen times<G>).

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 16:00:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:00:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels
References: <20080909.134744.20744.4@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <B52AD946429246B5913F17069D4884BB@NilesAD.von.gov>

> What's the rim width for these wheels?

The ad states that they are 13" x 5". Also states 5J size which seems to 
indicate the same thing.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973 

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  9 16:26:32 2008
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:26:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
Message-ID: <48C6F818.2080100@sbcglobal.net>

Bud,

A solenoid from a 1980 Ford 6 cyl. pickup will work just fine.
Autozone part #F496. $9.99

Lee

Subject:
Re: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
From:
"Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Date:
Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:44:54 -0500
CC:
spridgets at autox.team.net

Bud,

Are you certain it is the solenoid?  Try putting 12V across the starter
first to see if it turns. My 68 did this just before LotO - nice load click
but no joy at the starter. It was the starter gone south due to my own
stupidity when over tightening the wire and breaking the strap inside loose.
Of course, if the starter turns then it is good and the problem is probably
the solenoid. Also, do a search of the archives. Not too long ago someone
mentioned a modern auto parts store solenoid which will work. I think it was
a Ford part.

Cheers!!
Jim

O

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  9 17:47:09 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:47:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
In-Reply-To: <48C6F818.2080100@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEBIDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Autozone part #F496.>>

"Not found", Lee???

Ed

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Sep  9 17:35:59 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:35:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Frontline 10" Disc brake Conversion
Message-ID: <05fe01c912d4$d12af570$4e947e4c@HP>

Has anybody out there done one of the 10" Frontline brake conversions?

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/frontline/brake.htm
http://www.mgcars.org.uk/frontline/pricelst.htm

Larry Miller

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  9 17:37:34 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:37:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Mess
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809090303t79ac75bdoaa10d4e87811d09f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48C2BD30.9060909@comcast.net>
	<205cef430809090303t79ac75bdoaa10d4e87811d09f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C708BE.6000904@comcast.net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Frank,
> I will donate my Bugeye bonnet to the Holy Sprite is you need it.
>
Thanks Linda but I managed to untweak what was done to the bonnet.
It fits very nicely now. Rods are welded in the wheel openings too.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  9 18:02:40 2008
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 17:02:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Top 100 Ugliest Cars
Message-ID: <517813.63649.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We just made it at #100:  http://tinyurl.com/6aew79  How could they get #1 so
right and #100 so wrong?

Rick

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep  9 18:46:01 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:46:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
In-Reply-To: <9316435E075E4C86ABB31D6A6586ADE5@spider>
Message-ID: <00ab01c912de$993fba60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Thanks, anyway, Bill.  But, if you've read any of my "rants" in defense
of Lucas electrics, you would know that I'm sort of like the King of
Clean & Tight Connections, particularly the battery terminals ;).
That having been said, I'm not ruling out the possibility that a
connection has worked loose, and I will be checking them when I finally
get the opportunity to track down the fault (hopefully tomorrow
evening).
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:28 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids


You might clean all connections starting with the two at the battery.
...bill
=======================================================================

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep  9 18:58:45 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:58:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids
In-Reply-To: <4687315EE4AF4211928CE95C315BC8B6@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <00ac01c912e0$60825be0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

David,
Somewhere, I seem to remember that I have one or two used ones lying
around, so, maybe I'll sacrifice one of them in an effort to determine
if one can successfully be taken apart, reconditioned and reassembled.
I think I remember seeing that the earlier ones (for the 1098 & early
1275) are still available.  Although they are for positive ground
systems, that shouldn't matter since all they do is complete a circuit
by connecting positive to positive (or neg to neg) and allow the
positive/negative current to pass on to the starter.  I wonder what
other differences there are?  Hmmm.  I think I've got a couple of those
lying around, too.
Any thoughts, David, guys?
One thing for sure is I don't want to replace it with one that doesn't
incorporate a "remote" starter button, because they sure do come in
handy for checking/adjusting dwell angle and valve adjustment.

Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:02 AM
To: Bud Osbourne; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Starter solenoids


> 1.) Is the original rebuildable (I haven't even looked at it, yet)?
> 2.) What's the dif between the NLA unit listed by Moss (but, like I 
> said, NLA) and the unit listed for the 1500 (my car is a later 1275)?

1. Probably not.
2. The button between the posts is no longer there (darn!) and there are
a 
couple of additional connections that you can ignore. They are there so
that 
the solenoid can bypass the external ballast while cranking.

It will work fine for you as long as you can figure out which
connections to 
ignore ;-)
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  9 19:44:44 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:44:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Top 100 Ugliest Cars
In-Reply-To: <517813.63649.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEBODHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<We just made it at #100:
How could they get #1 so
right and #100 so wrong?>>

Isn't THAT the question for DECADES, Rick !!!!

At the time, and STILL, the Frogeye was/is considered one of the
CUTEST ever (and I CERTAINLY agree)!!!!

Bunch of lower class idiots did the voting???  BUT, if that question is
correct, then HOW (as your said) did they get #1 SO correct????

Boggles the mind<VBG>!!!!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep  9 19:03:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:03:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Top 100 Ugliest Cars
References: <517813.63649.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C401E4FF8EB480794D1EA85E37A8FA1@midget>

> We just made it at #100:  http://tinyurl.com/6aew79  How could they get #1 
> so
> right and #100 so wrong?

Well, you explain to me just how many of those polled had ever seen an 
"Aston Martin Bulldog" (#88) of which only one was ever built, and I will 
pretend there might be somevalidity to the poll. 

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Tue Sep  9 19:51:11 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:51:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
Message-ID: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide ones
like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
where the stripes are intended to go?
Thanks.
Dick B. in NH

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Sep  9 20:10:30 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:10:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <1958740610.20080909191030@pacifier.com>

Hello Lindalnhvt,

     are you sure you don't want leaf green stripes with and OE white
     base? you could do what Kenworth trucks do, mask over the green
     then paint the whole car OE white. .. resulting in stripes that
     can't peel or chip!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I've read all Shakespeare's works," said Tom wilfully.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  9 20:13:27 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <48C72D47.4020007@comcast.net>

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide ones
> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
> where the stripes are intended to go?
> Thanks.
>
>   
Dick

Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes, use 
a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the 
stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you 
change your mind.
Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and 
you can deal directly with him.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Sep  9 20:58:38 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 21:58:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Negative ground conversion questions
Message-ID: <20080910025838.KCVC22935.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi all-

I'm still trying to sort out my charging and tachometer problems, and from
what I have gathered and read, I think at one time my '66 had both pos and
neg earth done to it.

For those keeping score, I have it running/put together by the book with
positive earth.

I found wires stripped on the white tach wiring (but not cut), and the
innards of the tach seem stock.

The generator does not match anything else, so origin unknown.  I do know it
has good brushes.

2 questions-and I read Frank's conversion tips already (thanks Frank)

Is there a mod to the regulator that needs to be done when switching
polarity that I have not found?

How do I flash the generator to Pos earth to eliminate that part of it?

Thanks
Chris

66 MKIII

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep  9 21:35:35 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:35:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <48C72D47.4020007@comcast.net>
References: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<48C72D47.4020007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B8DE6214-2423-471E-9B8F-5E7D94290A2F@comcast.net>

Yup.. go get vinyl ones.  Most that I know who have painted them on  
swear that "Next time I'll use vinyl."

Lester


On Sep 9, 2008, at 9:13 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
>> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to  
>> put
>> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes,  
>> wide ones
>> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old  
>> English
>> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean  
>> edges?  I
>> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I  
>> helped
>> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
>> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint  
>> only
>> where the stripes are intended to go?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
> Dick
>
> Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
> Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
> 5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
> With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes,  
> use
> a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the
> stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you
> change your mind.
> Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and
> you can deal directly with him.
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Sep  9 21:38:52 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50343.71.181.1.46.1221011471.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <001001c912f6$bf972be0$3ec583a0$@net>

Simple on how to rough up only the place the stripes are to be painted. Did
you use base coat / clear coat on the new paint job?  If so, mask the whole
car leaving only the area to be striped and then sand with 800 grit.
Re-tape edges of the stripes (because sanding will have made little feathers
on the original tape) and then shoot paint.  Unmask, sand with 1000 grit,
feather out into the clear coat with scotch brite and spray clear.  Then
re-sand with 1000, then 1200, then buff with a medium compound then fine
compound on foam pad and finish off with a glaze.  Wala,,,, no stripe line
ridge.

Leo  

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:51 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes

I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide ones
like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
where the stripes are intended to go?
Thanks.
Dick B. in NH
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep 10 00:50:33 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:50:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Negative ground conversion questions
In-Reply-To: <20080910025838.KCVC22935.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080910025838.KCVC22935.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <48C76E39.1040208@wi.net>

Chris,

Try Barney Gaylord's Tech pages at:

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/electr_2.htm

It's for MGA's but it works for Sprites also.

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI


Chris Manuel wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> I'm still trying to sort out my charging and tachometer problems, and from
> what I have gathered and read, I think at one time my '66 had both pos and
> neg earth done to it.
>
> For those keeping score, I have it running/put together by the book with
> positive earth.
>
> I found wires stripped on the white tach wiring (but not cut), and the
> innards of the tach seem stock.
>
> The generator does not match anything else, so origin unknown.  I do know it
> has good brushes.
>
> 2 questions-and I read Frank's conversion tips already (thanks Frank)
>
> Is there a mod to the regulator that needs to be done when switching
> polarity that I have not found?
>
> How do I flash the generator to Pos earth to eliminate that part of it?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> 66 MKIII

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 04:40:32 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:40:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <48C72D47.4020007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <965684.2326.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For what it's worth, I've seen Frank's Bugeye a couple of times and had no
idea the stripes were't painted on.  They look great.  I've painted on stripes
before and they are a bear to get right.  (at least for somebody like me who
does't paint cars all the time)  The fact that you're asking the question on
how to do it suggests that you're in the same boat experience-wise.  Go with
Frank's suggestion.
 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:13 PM

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide
ones
> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
> where the stripes are intended to go?
> Thanks.
>
>
Dick

Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes, use
a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the
stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you
change your mind.
Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and
you can deal directly with him.


--
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Toms River, NJ
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From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Wed Sep 10 05:00:01 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:00:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes info
Message-ID: <50089.71.181.1.46.1221044401.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Thanks to everyone for the stripes reply. I had favored paint, but the
vinyl answers sound fairly trouble free. I'll investigate.
Dick B.

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 10 06:12:16 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:12:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
Message-ID: <28705905.1221048736532.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

How heavily do you have to breathe on ths Saab engine to get that horsepower?

I am still amazed and will never forget seeing a Saab at Summit Point Raceway actually turn over and start spinning on its top on a long straight!!!  I didn't even know that was physically possible ;^).  That has always placed worries in me that anyone would race an old Saab family truckster.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>Sent: Sep 9, 2008 5:36 PM
>To: 
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
>
>Yup.. 3 cyl 2 stroke 850..  50 hp for sure!
>
>Lester
>
>On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:30 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>
>> tinydog sez:
>>
>> There is always the option to drop in an 850.
>>
>>  -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns"  
>> <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>: --------------
>>
>> Of course, I now have to push on the gas and patiently await the
>>> response.  Getting  on the freeway is a very casual affair, taking  
>>> the entire
>>> on-ramp and a bit more to get to anything like freeway speed.


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 10 06:25:27 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:25:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
Message-ID: <31240391.1221049527199.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs and also some sheets of the vinyl for cutting numbers out.  Does anyone know where I can buy this vinyl?

Thanks,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 6:40 AM
>To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>
>For what it's worth, I've seen Frank's Bugeye a couple of times and had no
>idea the stripes were't painted on.  They look great.  I've painted on stripes
>before and they are a bear to get right.  (at least for somebody like me who
>does't paint cars all the time)  The fact that you're asking the question on
>how to do it suggests that you're in the same boat experience-wise.  Go with
>Frank's suggestion.
> - David
>'71 Midget
>Long Island
>
>--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:13 PM
>
>lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
>> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
>> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide
>ones
>> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
>> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
>> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
>> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
>> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
>> where the stripes are intended to go?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>Dick
>
>Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
>Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
>5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
>With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes, use
>a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the
>stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you
>change your mind.
>Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and
>you can deal directly with him.
>
>
>--
>Frank Clarici


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 06:27:43 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:27:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Project Status Update
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809100527q24a7dbd9n41539876a14ae9d3@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Frank informs that all is going well with the Holy Sprite, but some parts
are still needed if you have them.  For a list of what needs to be donated,
go to:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/partswanted.html

Please contact Frank i you can help...

I've also updated the list of donors:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/donors.html

Please take a look and let me know if I am missing anyone.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Sep 10 06:50:37 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:50:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes info
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I agree!!~!  The stripes Frank put on his car look GREAT!! And sure dont
look like vinyl.  Just make sure you take time installing them and get out
all the air pockets AND make sure they are straight OR just like painted on
stripes they will look like crap.  Like anything prep and application makes
all the difference.

Leo

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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:00 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes info

Thanks to everyone for the stripes reply. I had favored paint, but the
vinyl answers sound fairly trouble free. I'll investigate.
Dick B.
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 06:54:46 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:54:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hey Christ.. was  948 vs 1275
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It'll still run on pump gas and is VERY driveable.. sort of.. and  
still wins Concours..

Yeah, I've put 3 of my 3 rally cars on the roof or at least on the  
side.  Chuck doesn't put 'em on the roof at all and he does  
hillclimbs and road racing..

lester

On Sep 10, 2008, at 7:12 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

> How heavily do you have to breathe on ths Saab engine to get that  
> horsepower?
>
> I am still amazed and will never forget seeing a Saab at Summit  
> Point Raceway actually turn over and start spinning on its top on a  
> long straight!!!  I didn't even know that was physically  
> possible ;^).  That has always placed worries in me that anyone  
> would race an old Saab family truckster.
>
> Mike C
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Sep 9, 2008 5:36 PM
>> To:
>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948 vs 1275
>>
>> Yup.. 3 cyl 2 stroke 850..  50 hp for sure!
>>
>> Lester
>>
>> On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:30 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>>
>>> tinydog sez:
>>>
>>> There is always the option to drop in an 850.
>>>
>>>  -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns"
>>> <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>: --------------
>>>
>>> Of course, I now have to push on the gas and patiently await the
>>>> response.  Getting  on the freeway is a very casual affair, taking
>>>> the entire
>>>> on-ramp and a bit more to get to anything like freeway speed.
>
>
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From vern at srvinet.com  Wed Sep 10 07:04:26 2008
From: vern at srvinet.com (Vernon Olson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:04:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] almost done
Message-ID: <48C7C5DA.9080201@srvinet.com>

Well after about a year I can drive my 59 bugeye.
Still have to put on the straps for the bonnet which springs
up a bit. If  you look at the pictures you will see that I haven't
taken out the little emergency tool box or the tow rope yet, but
after a little misadjustment on the  throttle linkage it runs great.
You can see the little beast at the following link.
Vern
http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/PhotoAlbums/album_1221014827

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 10 07:39:29 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:39:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
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Message-ID: <48C7CE11.2010600@frontiernet.net>

Remind me never to eat at your house!

Kate


Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 10 08:07:17 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:07:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
Message-ID: <2638251.1221055637005.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They would taste better than some of the box Italian foods we have around here ;^).  I am actually not a good cook HOWEVER, I do make excellent steaks and burgers on the grill!  You may even like those.

mike c

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM
>To: 
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>
>Remind me never to eat at your house!
>
>Kate
>
>
>Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>> I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs 


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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 08:29:01 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:29:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>

hey guys,

I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
bug,
I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood of
150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers smallest
tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next weekend!!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 10 08:32:17 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:32:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <2638251.1221055637005.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <2638251.1221055637005.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48C7DA71.7020306@frontiernet.net>

The only way to get real Italian food here is if I cook it myself, and 
even then I have to settle for French bread.  I'm sure I would like your 
steaks & burgers, as long as the steaks can walk to the table and say "Moo".

Kate


Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> They would taste better than some of the box Italian foods we have around here ;^).  I am actually not a good cook HOWEVER, I do make excellent steaks and burgers on the grill!  You may even like those.
>
> mike c
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>> Sent: Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM
>> To: 
>> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>>
>> Remind me never to eat at your house!
>>
>> Kate

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 08:38:19 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:38:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] almost done
In-Reply-To: <48C7C5DA.9080201@srvinet.com>
References: <48C7C5DA.9080201@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <64051D81-1BA6-4C73-812E-680E0FCCE3F0@comcast.net>

I would NEVER choose those colors but it sure looks good!  Congrats!   
As a guide, it has taken close to 3 years after my resto before the  
first part fell off while driving...  ;-)


Lester

On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Vernon Olson wrote:

> Well after about a year I can drive my 59 bugeye.
> Still have to put on the straps for the bonnet which springs
> up a bit. If  you look at the pictures you will see that I haven't
> taken out the little emergency tool box or the tow rope yet, but
> after a little misadjustment on the  throttle linkage it runs great.
> You can see the little beast at the following link.
> Vern
> http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/PhotoAlbums/album_1221014827

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 10 08:44:25 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:44:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu>

Matt Hagopian wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> bug,
> I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood of
> 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers smallest
> tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next weekend!!
>
>   
Matt,
It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's 
what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to 
fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the 
other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the 
Bugeye fenders.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 08:49:34 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:49:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
	<48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <002201c91354$76687e70$63397b50$@com>

185/60-13 work just fine. You may need offset rear springs (better) , or run
a spacer for the rear.

You'll probably run a spacer already for the front wheels for inner rim
clearance (Clarence) for the tie rod end.

No sheet metal pounding is necessary.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
John Caffrey
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
To: Matt Hagopian
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

Matt Hagopian wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> bug,
> I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
of
> 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
smallest
> tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
weekend!!
>
>   
Matt,
It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's 
what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to 
fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the 
other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the 
Bugeye fenders.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 08:52:10 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:52:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <002201c91354$76687e70$63397b50$@com>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
	<48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu> <002201c91354$76687e70$63397b50$@com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809100752u1043dd76m17bd0ec00dc9f5d@mail.gmail.com>

how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of loose. So
I should stay with the hoosiers?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

> 185/60-13 work just fine. You may need offset rear springs (better) , or
> run
> a spacer for the rear.
>
> You'll probably run a spacer already for the front wheels for inner rim
> clearance (Clarence) for the tie rod end.
>
> No sheet metal pounding is necessary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> John Caffrey
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: Matt Hagopian
> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires
>
> Matt Hagopian wrote:
> > hey guys,
> >
> > I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> > full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> > bug,
> > I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
> of
> > 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
> smallest
> > tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> > advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
> weekend!!
> >
> >
> Matt,
> It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's
> what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to
> fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the
> other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the
> Bugeye fenders.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 08:52:09 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:52:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
	<48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <002301c91354$cf902200$6eb06600$@com>

One more thing I just recalled... the upper radius arm bracket usually needs
modification... it doesn't need to be near as wide as it is... a sawzall to
cut some of the center meat out where the bolt goes thru, and a torch to
heat up and pound the bracket inward toward the inner fender... then line up
the bolt hole.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
John Caffrey
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
To: Matt Hagopian
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

Matt Hagopian wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> bug,
> I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
of
> 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
smallest
> tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
weekend!!
>
>   
Matt,
It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's 
what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to 
fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the 
other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the 
Bugeye fenders.
John
Fogelsville, PA
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 08:53:36 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:53:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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We are talking about a few days until race day here...

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

> One more thing I just recalled... the upper radius arm bracket usually
> needs
> modification... it doesn't need to be near as wide as it is... a sawzall to
> cut some of the center meat out where the bolt goes thru, and a torch to
> heat up and pound the bracket inward toward the inner fender... then line
> up
> the bolt hole.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> John Caffrey
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: Matt Hagopian
> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires
>
>  Matt Hagopian wrote:
> > hey guys,
> >
> > I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> > full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> > bug,
> > I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
> of
> > 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
> smallest
> > tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> > advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
> weekend!!
> >
> >
> Matt,
> It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's
> what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to
> fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the
> other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the
> Bugeye fenders.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 08:55:12 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
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On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter
<mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs and also some sheets of the vinyl for cutting numbers out.  Does anyone know where I can buy this vinyl?
>



A sign shop should have a Vinyl cutter.  Get them to cut you some
circles and numbers.

Also, if you paint the stripes, you can taper them so they look
better.  The original Shelby Mustangs had tapered stripes.  When we
striped the Miata, we laid everything out and just added a little
taper by eyeballing it.  The stripes are about 1/4 wider at the cowl
than at the front of the hood.  The rear tapers a little less because
the length is shorter.
Here is a small pic:
http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/image.php?u=11519&dateline=1219192005
We discussed doing Vinyl but my friend talked me into painting them
because the curves of the Miata would be harder to get right with the
Vinyl.

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 09:01:04 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:01:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
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	<87a1f55d0809100753y57922237hbeba5bcfc13245d@mail.gmail.com>
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I just measured, I have about 1/8" seperating the outside edge of the tire
to the fender, and I have about 5/8" on the inside. I may just roll the
fenders and slap them on!

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>wrote:

> We are talking about a few days until race day here...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
> wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
>
>> One more thing I just recalled... the upper radius arm bracket usually
>> needs
>> modification... it doesn't need to be near as wide as it is... a sawzall
>> to
>> cut some of the center meat out where the bolt goes thru, and a torch to
>> heat up and pound the bracket inward toward the inner fender... then line
>> up
>> the bolt hole.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
>> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> John Caffrey
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
>> To: Matt Hagopian
>> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires
>>
>>  Matt Hagopian wrote:
>> > hey guys,
>> >
>> > I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are
>> a
>> > full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
>> > bug,
>> > I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
>> of
>> > 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
>> smallest
>> > tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on
>> some
>> > advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
>> weekend!!
>> >
>> >
>> Matt,
>> It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's
>> what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to
>> fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the
>> other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the
>> Bugeye fenders.
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as wsthompson at thicko.com
>>
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 09:02:39 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:02:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809100752u1043dd76m17bd0ec00dc9f5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
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The bias ply Hoosiers are a great tire. The car will "slip, slip. Slip" and
then "pow", they hook up. Don't be afraid to get on the gas early (if you're
on the right line). Radials give a very false sense of security, as they
feel really good right up until the moment where they lose grip and you spin
into the weeds. Novice drivers like radials, but you're better off learning
to drive the Hoosiers, learning to anticipate the apex a little for the
slip, get your braking done early, and hammer the gas early for exit speed.

 

Spacers can be purchased from places like Winner's Circle in OH, etc. You
may need to use longer wheel studs. Check to see of you have offsetrear
springs. 

 

I don't remember. what body was this? Squarebody or Bugeye? (or round arch
squarebody?).  Sometimes a baseball bat is necessary to gently roll the
inner lip of the fender.

 

From: Matt Hagopian [mailto:mhagopian at hoppetool.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:52 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: John Caffrey; spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

 

how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of loose. So
I should stay with the hoosiers?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson
<wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

185/60-13 work just fine. You may need offset rear springs (better) , or run
a spacer for the rear.

You'll probably run a spacer already for the front wheels for inner rim
clearance (Clarence) for the tie rod end.

No sheet metal pounding is necessary.


-----Original Message-----

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 09:03:22 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:03:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809100753y57922237hbeba5bcfc13245d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah? So? Hop to it man. Should take you 30 minutes a side.

 

From: Matt Hagopian [mailto:mhagopian at hoppetool.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:54 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: John Caffrey; spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

 

We are talking about a few days until race day here...

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson
<wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

One more thing I just recalled... the upper radius arm bracket usually needs
modification... it doesn't need to be near as wide as it is... a sawzall to
cut some of the center meat out where the bolt goes thru, and a torch to
heat up and pound the bracket inward toward the inner fender... then line up
the bolt hole.


-----Original Message-----
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@autox.team.net <http://autox.team.net/> 
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <mailto:spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>
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On Behalf Of
John Caffrey
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
To: Matt Hagopian
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

Matt Hagopian wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are a
> full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
> bug,
> I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
of
> 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
smallest
> tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on some
> advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
weekend!!
>
>
Matt,
It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's
what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to
fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the
other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the
Bugeye fenders.
John
Fogelsville, PA
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 09:07:58 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:07:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809100801g209cc738w6ddc208100e2748d@mail.gmail.com>
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If the radius arm bracket is not done yet, it must be. Tire deflection under
cornering will cause it to hit the bracket bolt and tear the side out of the
tirer.. Not a good thing.

 

I assume there's a Panhard rod on the car, so that can be used to locate the
axle side to side for best clearance (Clarence).

 

From: Matt Hagopian [mailto:mhagopian at hoppetool.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:01 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: John Caffrey; spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

 

I just measured, I have about 1/8" seperating the outside edge of the tire
to the fender, and I have about 5/8" on the inside. I may just roll the
fenders and slap them on!

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
wrote:

We are talking about a few days until race day here... 

 

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson
<wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

One more thing I just recalled... the upper radius arm bracket usually needs
modification... it doesn't need to be near as wide as it is... a sawzall to
cut some of the center meat out where the bolt goes thru, and a torch to
heat up and pound the bracket inward toward the inner fender... then line up
the bolt hole.


-----Original Message-----

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 10 09:12:36 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:12:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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Matt Hagopian wrote:
> how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of 
> loose. So I should stay with the hoosiers?
>
What do you mean by "The rear end is kind of loose"?  I'm assuming you 
mean that you may not have a panhard bar? If you don't, you will have a 
tire problem.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 09:32:26 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:32:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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Guys, I just picked up this car 3 weeks ago and havent looked over it too
closely. I love bias tires, we run them on our XKE. I have a Panhard bar in
the rear.

"If the radius arm bracket is not done yet, it must be. Tire deflection
under cornering will cause it to hit the bracket bolt and tear the side out
of the tirer. Not a good thing." Im not in front of the car right now (wont
be until tomorow because its 2 hours away) is this a big job or is that
included in the 30 min a side?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>
>> how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of loose.
>> So I should stay with the hoosiers?
>>
>> What do you mean by "The rear end is kind of loose"?  I'm assuming you
> mean that you may not have a panhard bar? If you don't, you will have a
tire
> problem.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>


--
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Wed Sep 10 09:41:11 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:41:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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I'LL TRY TO TAKE A PICTURE OF STOCK & MODIFIED FOR YOU LATER TODAY.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Matt Hagopian
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:32 AM
To: John Caffrey
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires

Guys, I just picked up this car 3 weeks ago and havent looked over it too
closely. I love bias tires, we run them on our XKE. I have a Panhard bar in
the rear.

"If the radius arm bracket is not done yet, it must be. Tire deflection
under cornering will cause it to hit the bracket bolt and tear the side out
of the tirer. Not a good thing." Im not in front of the car right now (wont
be until tomorow because its 2 hours away) is this a big job or is that
included in the 30 min a side?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>
>> how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of loose.
>> So I should stay with the hoosiers?
>>
>> What do you mean by "The rear end is kind of loose"?  I'm assuming you
> mean that you may not have a panhard bar? If you don't, you will have a
tire
> problem.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>


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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 10 09:45:34 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:45:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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Thank you Severin!
Dave, I would love to be in the top ten in my racing group, Currently I sit
in 14 in my grandfathers Jag XKE. I would love to see the bug get into the
top 5! hanging with 215hp 914-6 porsche and 911's I am in a vintage racing
group years up to 1972. Mods have to be approved but pretty much anything
goes, the 914's are so heavily modified its ridiculous, fastest guy there is
in a 911 followed by a 65 mustang GT and then a 1380cc Mini cooper.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

> I'LL TRY TO TAKE A PICTURE OF STOCK & MODIFIED FOR YOU LATER TODAY.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Matt Hagopian
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: John Caffrey
> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires
>
>  Guys, I just picked up this car 3 weeks ago and havent looked over it too
> closely. I love bias tires, we run them on our XKE. I have a Panhard bar in
> the rear.
>
> "If the radius arm bracket is not done yet, it must be. Tire deflection
> under cornering will cause it to hit the bracket bolt and tear the side out
> of the tirer . Not a good thing." Im not in front of the car right now
> (wont
> be until tomorow because its 2 hours away) is this a big job or is that
> included in the 30 min a side?
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:
>
> > Matt Hagopian wrote:
> >
> >> how do I do this? I might add.. right now the rear end is kind of loose.
> >> So I should stay with the hoosiers?
> >>
> >> What do you mean by "The rear end is kind of loose"?  I'm assuming you
> > mean that you may not have a panhard bar? If you don't, you will have a
> tire
> > problem.
> > John
> > Fogelsville, PA
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
>
> Matt Hagopian
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 10 10:10:56 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:10:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
Message-ID: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>

No, not what you were thinking! One of the closest F1 races in recent 
memory, at one of the best tracks in the world, with the weather playing 
a role in the finish, and controversy to boot. I learned the next day 
that the stewards had penalized the winner 25 seconds which moved him 
back 2 positions and has the driver's championship down to a 2 point 
spread. Almost everyone believes the stewards got it wrong, and I was of 
the same mind until watching the replay. Lewis Hamilton attempted a low 
percentage pass at the chicane which was well defended, and he took the 
escape road and came out ahead. You cannot gain an advantage by skipping 
part of the track and he immediately returned the position, and then 
passed Kimi at the next corner. My belief is that had he followed Kimi 
through the chicane he could not have out maintained the momentum to get 
inside for the pass.  See if you can agree with the stewards decision, 
and it is currently under appeal by McClaren. Great in-car video.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNN5W_B-Zk
John
Fogelsville, PA

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 11:14:13 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
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Message-ID: <360544.26116.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Also, if you paint the stripes, you can taper them so they look
better.  The original Shelby Mustangs had tapered stripes." 
 
I agree about tapered stripes.  A long time ago I striped my '67 Mustang in
the classic double stripes patern.  We laid out the hood stripes straight
(with tape) and found that they looked crooked.  After many hours and MANY
feet of tape, we finally came up with a tapered pair of stripes that actually
looked straight.  To get there, we ended up carefully measuring and then
marking a grid out the hood with chalk lines so we could get the opposite
tapers equal on both sides.  It was a great result in the end, but took us
most of the day to get right.  We actually ended up painting the stripes a day
late because of all the prep work.  The rear deck looked great straight, but
the hood was a bear.
 
On the other hand, our little cars are fairly square.  I think that straight
ones will probably look OK. 
 
All this talk of stripes is making me think about my little OEW Midget.  Frank
- I'll get the info on the vinyl source when I'm there for the Holy Sprite
work later this month...
 
 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 11:22:46 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:22:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] almost done
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The car looks great, Vern!  Nice work!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> I would NEVER choose those colors but it sure looks good!  Congrats!
> As a guide, it has taken close to 3 years after my resto before the
> first part fell off while driving...  ;-)
>
>
> Lester
>
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Vernon Olson wrote:
>
> > Well after about a year I can drive my 59 bugeye.
> > Still have to put on the straps for the bonnet which springs
> > up a bit. If  you look at the pictures you will see that I haven't
> > taken out the little emergency tool box or the tow rope yet, but
> > after a little misadjustment on the  throttle linkage it runs great.
> > You can see the little beast at the following link.
> > Vern
> > http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/PhotoAlbums/album_1221014827
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Sep 10 11:32:41 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:32:41 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
Message-ID: <20080910.103241.11047.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Try <http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/>, they have pre-cut roundels and
numerals.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs and also
some sheets of the vinyl for cutting numbers out.  Does anyone know where I
can buy this vinyl?

Thanks,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 6:40 AM
>To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>
>For what it's worth, I've seen Frank's Bugeye a couple of times and had no
>idea the stripes were't painted on.  They look great.  I've painted on
stripes
>before and they are a bear to get right.  (at least for somebody like me who
>does't paint cars all the time)  The fact that you're asking the question on
>how to do it suggests that you're in the same boat experience-wise.  Go with
>Frank's suggestion.
> - David
>'71 Midget
>Long Island
>
>--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 9:13 PM
>
>lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
>> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
>> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide
>ones
>> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
>> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
>> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
>> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
>> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
>> where the stripes are intended to go?
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>Dick
>
>Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
>Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
>5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
>With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes, use
>a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the
>stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you
>change your mind.
>Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and
>you can deal directly with him.
>
>
>--
>Frank Clarici


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From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:35:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
Message-ID: <20080910.103504.11047.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

You're supposed to eat the box!

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

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They would taste better than some of the box Italian foods we have around here
;^).  I am actually not a good cook HOWEVER, I do make excellent steaks and
burgers on the grill!  You may even like those.

mike c

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM
>To:
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
>
>Remind me never to eat at your house!
>
>Kate
>
>
>Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>> I would like to obtain vinyl for making white and black meatballs


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 11:44:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:44:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>
References: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809101044q116fa85ex8ec48f05874507e0@mail.gmail.com>

John,

I am a Formula 1 junkie who got up early to watch the race live on Speed.
It is a very tough call by the stewards. Of course it makes no difference
now for Raikonnen. More tough luck for the Kimster... First Hamilton
nails him at the pit lane exit, then an engine lets go while leading at the
end of a race and now this.  We shall see how the McLaren appeal goes...

Otherwise, however, the race was incredible as has been the entire
season this year and last year!  Spa is one of my very favorite tracks and
its basic configuration hasn't changed a great deal since the olden days!
Eau Rouge remains one of my all time favorite corners even after some
modifications and the newer Pouhon appears to be a reverse camber
SOB to get right!  We ran a Formula Ford on this track back in 1968
when Bruce McLaren won the F1 race. I loved driving it - even as a
back marker ;-(

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:10 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> No, not what you were thinking! One of the closest F1 races in recent
> memory, at one of the best tracks in the world, with the weather playing
> a role in the finish, and controversy to boot. I learned the next day
> that the stewards had penalized the winner 25 seconds which moved him
> back 2 positions and has the driver's championship down to a 2 point
> spread. Almost everyone believes the stewards got it wrong, and I was of
> the same mind until watching the replay. Lewis Hamilton attempted a low
> percentage pass at the chicane which was well defended, and he took the
> escape road and came out ahead. You cannot gain an advantage by skipping
> part of the track and he immediately returned the position, and then
> passed Kimi at the next corner. My belief is that had he followed Kimi
> through the chicane he could not have out maintained the momentum to get
> inside for the pass.  See if you can agree with the stewards decision,
> and it is currently under appeal by McClaren. Great in-car video.
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNN5W_B-Zk
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Sep 10 12:59:38 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:59:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Engine Numbers
Message-ID: <007a01c91377$605aa900$4e947e4c@HP>

I have a 1966 Austin Mini. Based on the vin # it is a Cooper S. The engine 
number is 38G464-RS-65778. The 38G464 says it is a 1275cc - Introduced in 
1970, most of which were fitted with EN16 Tuftrided crankshaft. Other 38G's 
that I have found are listed as Gold Seal engines.

The problem is that the engine has tappet covers. Is this correct for this 
engine or has the engine number been transferred to another engine? 

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 10 13:35:11 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:35:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809101044q116fa85ex8ec48f05874507e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>
	<43840a7e0809101044q116fa85ex8ec48f05874507e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48C8216F.7050300@lehigh.edu>

I don't have to get up as early as you, but I am always up and waiting. 
Massa has had some bad luck this season and I hope he gets to keep these 
points. Kimi was ruthless with Massa at the start, but his driving was 
impressive, and looked like he would get his 4th Spa win. They were 
turning identical times most of the race, so I don't know why Hamilton 
caught up so quickly. This controversy may not be over cause McLaren 
claims to have been given official approval for letting Kimi by. Monza 
should be good no matter what is decided in the appeal!
What a thrill it must have been to drive Spa! Spa is one of the classic 
Grand Prix courses, and I would love to visit a F1 race there.
Driving Watkins Glen was always special for me after watching F1 races 
there. It was not my favorite track though until Bridgehampton closed. 
Bridgehmpton had some thrilling sections that separated the men from the 
boys, even in the small bore cars that I drive. Unfortunately it's now a 
golf course. Dr. David Helmick came up with a great idea for tee shirts, 
"It still takes balls to drive Bridgehampton!"
John
Fogelsville, PA

Jim Johnson wrote:
> John,
>
> I am a Formula 1 junkie who got up early to watch the race live on Speed.
> It is a very tough call by the stewards. Of course it makes no difference
> now for Raikonnen. More tough luck for the Kimster... First Hamilton
> nails him at the pit lane exit, then an engine lets go while leading at the
> end of a race and now this.  We shall see how the McLaren appeal goes...
>
> Otherwise, however, the race was incredible as has been the entire
> season this year and last year!  Spa is one of my very favorite tracks and
> its basic configuration hasn't changed a great deal since the olden days!
> Eau Rouge remains one of my all time favorite corners even after some
> modifications and the newer Pouhon appears to be a reverse camber
> SOB to get right!  We ran a Formula Ford on this track back in 1968
> when Bruce McLaren won the F1 race. I loved driving it - even as a
> back marker ;-(
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 14:09:00 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:09:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tack welding tips
Message-ID: <441250190809101309n6e7855e3j71493a443c761bf6@mail.gmail.com>

Check out http://www.millerwelds.com/education/articles/article150.html
I think I will give some of their ideas a try next time I am tacking things
together.

-g

From breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 14:26:27 2008
From: breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com (Bree Anna)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC made it to Oregon! and Thanks
Message-ID: <681011.4031.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks to all of you who volunteered to help if anything happened on my trip out to Oregon. I made it just fine. Also to those who asked me to call or drop by when passing thru your state, I just didnt have the time i thought I would.

Thanks again, I really appreciate all of you!!!





Bree!
East Texas

From miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Sep 10 15:14:13 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:14:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Engine Numbers
In-Reply-To: <007a01c91377$605aa900$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <007a01c91377$605aa900$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <8CAE1A14EF7CD88-874-1FE4@webmail-dd03.sysops.aol.com>

Actually there's no way to differentiate between a Cooper and a Cooper S based on the VIN. The numbers ran concurrently between both models. The only way to tell what car came with your particular VIN would be to get a Heritage Certificate.

I can tell you however that the engine number you posted is for a factory replacement 1275 Cooper S engine, with carbs, crankcase closed circuit breather, an AEG542 cam and the EN-16 crank, as you've already referenced. This was a "one spec fits all" engine produced from 1969-1971, which superceded all previous 1275 Cooper S reconditioned engine specifications. The tappet chest covers were standard 1275 Cooper S.

If you'd like more help identifying the body shell, contact me directly.

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.??


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To: Mini-List <mini-list at autox.team.net>; Spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 2:59 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Engine Numbers



I have a 1966 Austin Mini. Based on the vin # it is a Cooper S. The engine 
number is 38G464-RS-65778. The 38G464 says it is a 1275cc - Introduced in 
1970, most of which were fitted with EN16 Tuftrided crankshaft. Other 38G's 
that I have found are listed as Gold Seal engines.

The problem is that the engine has tappet covers. Is this correct for this 
engine or has the engine number been transferred to another engine? 
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 15:25:12 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes
In-Reply-To: <48C72D47.4020007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <946893.25357.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Frank is correct.
 
I have never put the stripes on - I have watched a shop as they did a delivery
van. I have removed the stripes from new cars with a heat gun on a hot day.
They come off fairly easy. The only problem is if the car is the sun for a
long time the color under the decal or vinyl is a different color. So make
sure you really want them for good before putting them on your car.
 
Vigil 

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes
To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 7:13 PM

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
> I have a newly painted (today) leaf green bugeye. Before I start to put
> everything back on, I'm giving serious consideration to stripes, wide
ones
> like the red on silver ones on an earlier post, but perhaps Old English
> White on the Leaf Green.  My question is--- how do you get clean edges?  I
> had someone paint Shelby stripes on my 66 Mustang fastback, and I helped
> apply the tape, but I don't remember what kind if tape we used.
> Also, if you paint the stripes, how do you rough up the new paint only
> where the stripes are intended to go?
> Thanks.
>
>
Dick

Kevin and I have stick on stripes that my Dad made.
Mine are Oyster white (close to OEW) on a blue Bugeye,
5 years now and no problems with the stripes.
With his vinyl, you spray windex on the body, position the stripes, use
a credit card to get any bubbles out, and when the windex is dry, the
stripes are permanent. A heat gun is supposed to remove them if you
change your mind.
Let me know if you want to go this route, I'll give you his email and
you can deal directly with him.


--
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 10 16:24:17 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:24:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - need karaoke version of cell block tango (
 zeta jones version )
In-Reply-To: <441250190809101309n6e7855e3j71493a443c761bf6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <441250190809101309n6e7855e3j71493a443c761bf6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1875C262B9B823E509C4D0B8570@phx.gbl>

My daughter has a school project in her drama class and we need to find this
version of the song.  We find other versions, but not the right one.

There is usually someone on this list that can point me in the right
direction.

HELP!!! :)

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep 10 16:31:12 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:31:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - need karaoke version of cell block tango (
 zeta jones version )
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP1875C262B9B823E509C4D0B8570@phx.gbl>
References: <441250190809101309n6e7855e3j71493a443c761bf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1875C262B9B823E509C4D0B8570@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080910172820.03e93a20@nosimport.com>

LOL.... I was just outside installing an alternator on a Rabbit 
Veggie-diesel pickup, and noticed the sign at the bar next door.

It had various misspellings of karaoke for a few weeks.  It now says 
"You-sing  Wed"

Sorry.
         Peter
==
At 05:24 PM 9/10/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
>My daughter has a school project in her drama class and we need to find this
>version of the song.  We find other versions, but not the right one.
>
>There is usually someone on this list that can point me in the right
>direction.
>
>HELP!!! :)
>_______________________________________________

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 10 17:47:26 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:47:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
Message-ID: <142548D8FCF044F3B50A06814F7893C0@HomeComputer>

Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the horn
button) and the "SPRITE" script?

 

Dean

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Wed Sep 10 17:57:42 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:57:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite parts
Message-ID: <50428.71.181.1.46.1221091062.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Frank,
I have two hubcaps if they are still needed. Let me know and I'll dig them
out.
Dick B. in NH

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 17:59:54 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - need karaoke version of cell block tango (
 zeta jones version )
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080910172820.03e93a20@nosimport.com>
References: <441250190809101309n6e7855e3j71493a443c761bf6@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU0-SMTP1875C262B9B823E509C4D0B8570@phx.gbl>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080910172820.03e93a20@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809101659j51aefa8cw93883b0ac723e6ed@mail.gmail.com>

I just KNEW you had a bar next door, Peter!  I just KNEW it!

A few years ago a local restaurant put out a sign to announce that a special
they had offered a few years ago was coming back.  The marque said, "Their
Back!".  I called the manager and suggested he might want to take a remedial
English course...He apologized and vowed to fix the problem immediately.
Next day I drive past and the sign says, "There Back".  I gave up.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> LOL.... I was just outside installing an alternator on a Rabbit
> Veggie-diesel pickup, and noticed the sign at the bar next door.
>
> It had various misspellings of karaoke for a few weeks.  It now says
> "You-sing  Wed"
>
> Sorry.
>         Peter
> ==
> At 05:24 PM 9/10/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
> >My daughter has a school project in her drama class and we need to find
> this
> >version of the song.  We find other versions, but not the right one.
> >
> >There is usually someone on this list that can point me in the right
> >direction.
> >
> >HELP!!! :)
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 10 17:59:58 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:59:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
References: <142548D8FCF044F3B50A06814F7893C0@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <FB6FF288D1A04E33A01B9460EE1C2A48@Larry>

Chrome or gold?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos


Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the horn
button) and the "SPRITE" script?

 

Dean

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep 10 18:05:42 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:05:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <FB6FF288D1A04E33A01B9460EE1C2A48@Larry>
References: <142548D8FCF044F3B50A06814F7893C0@HomeComputer>
	<FB6FF288D1A04E33A01B9460EE1C2A48@Larry>
Message-ID: <991360133.20080910170542@pacifier.com>

Hello Larry,

     by NOW everyone on the list knows that the logos came with gold
     silver arrows except for the gold arrow-head and "feathers" as
     well as gold letters up the sides with silver top surfaces. We've
     been over and over this!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Lead me not into temptation; I can find it myself. 

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 18:27:02 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:27:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] almost done
In-Reply-To: <48C7C5DA.9080201@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <548665.94536.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The car looks great Vernon.  Well done.  You would certainly be a big hit in
Knoxville, TN...

David
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Vernon Olson <vern at srvinet.com> wrote:

From: Vernon Olson <vern at srvinet.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] almost done
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net, "Vern"
<vern at srvinet.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 8:04 AM

Well after about a year I can drive my 59 bugeye.
Still have to put on the straps for the bonnet which springs
up a bit. If  you look at the pictures you will see that I haven't
taken out the little emergency tool box or the tow rope yet, but
after a little misadjustment on the  throttle linkage it runs great.
You can see the little beast at the following link.
Vern
http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/PhotoAlbums/album_1221014827
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 10 18:27:50 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:27:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
Message-ID: <95BEFE7066D74B02AD7460A54C305AC4@HomeComputer>

But, Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the
horn

button) and the "SPRITE" script?

 

 

by NOW everyone on the list knows that the logos came with gold

     silver arrows except for the gold arrow-head and "feathers" as

     well as gold letters up the sides with silver top surfaces. We've

     been over and over this!

 

--

Best regards,

 Bill L.   

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Wed Sep 10 18:45:07 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:45:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
In-Reply-To: <002201c91354$76687e70$63397b50$@com>
References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
	<48C7DD49.90308@lehigh.edu> <002201c91354$76687e70$63397b50$@com>
Message-ID: <50727.71.181.1.46.1221093907.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

I have Minilites for my Bugeye project. They rub the tie rod end on one
side so your "spacer" reply caught my attention. What is a spacer, where
do I get them, and what size do I need to be able to use the 5x13 wheels
on my bugeye?
Thanks.
Dick B. in NH

> 185/60-13 work just fine. You may need offset rear springs (better) , or
> run
> a spacer for the rear.
>
> You'll probably run a spacer already for the front wheels for inner rim
> clearance (Clarence) for the tie rod end.
>
> No sheet metal pounding is necessary.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of
> John Caffrey
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:44 AM
> To: Matt Hagopian
> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tires
>
> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>> hey guys,
>>
>> I just ordered a set of Hoosiers 185/60/13. They are ENORMOUS! they are
>> a
>> full 1.25" wider then my street tires and have no hope of fitting on the
>> bug,
>> I need help selecting a good race tire that is in the price neighborhood
> of
>> 150 or less. It currently has street tire size 185/60/13. Hoosiers
> smallest
>> tire is a 180. and Avons tire is for 194 each. Could someone pass on
>> some
>> advice of which tire to buy and provide a link to it? Racing next
> weekend!!
>>
>>
> Matt,
> It takes some working of the inner fenders but it is possible, and it's
> what all of the US racers use AFAIK. I just got done making some room to
> fit them to a 62 Mark II square arch. Hopefully Ron, WST, or one of the
> other vintage racers will chime in with some specifics on modifying the
> Bugeye fenders.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 18:48:43 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:48:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Videohan Lewis was.  Obviously,
 they were both struggling because they were both sliding around and
 both went off in the same corner
In-Reply-To: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <684468.93739.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's great in-car stuff.  I watched it live on Speed sunday morning too.  I
don't think I agree with the carrying momentum point.  The fact that Lewis
slowed to let Kimi pass should in and of itself kill any momentum he was
carrying - or at least have made it equal to or less than that of Kimi's. 
 
>From the in-car with Kimi toward the end, you could see he was struggling more
(whether from tire choice or lack of useable tread?) than Lewis was.  They
both went off in that one corner, but Lewis went back on course far before
Kimi did.  Even if Lewis had stayed behind in the chicane, as hard as he was
pushing I think Kimi would have been passed anyway - and could have ended up
in the tire walls just the same. 
 
What a great race, though.  My son and I watch every F1 race.  Except that
somehow we missed the Valencia race.  I knew it was coming and was planning to
watch it, but the three week time off must have done something to my brain - I
completely forgot about it that morning, then missed the replay too.  Anybody
know of a way I can see it?  I was really looking forward to seeing a new
street circuit.  My son was also very disappointed that we missed it. 
 
 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island
 
 - David

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 18:54:42 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:54:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C7F190.5070305@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <98708.29260.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWNN5W_B-Zk

Awesome - thank you John. I played it through my shop stereo at ear splitting volume (thank you, Zoom), and it sounds a lot like Brian French at Road America in his ex-World Chamionship Ferrari F1 car. 

BTW, I do the same move on the same track on the Playstation F1 game, and I've never been penalized ;-).

Ron

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 10 19:20:43 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:20:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
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References: <98708.29260.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C8726B.2060607@frontiernet.net>

Terrific footage, but the engine still sounds more like a bumble bee on 
steroids than an F1.

Kate
>
> Awesome - thank you John. I played it through my shop stereo at ear splitting volume (thank you, Zoom), and it sounds a lot like Brian French at Road America in his ex-World Chamionship Ferrari F1 car. 
>
> BTW, I do the same move on the same track on the Playstation F1 game, and I've never been penalized ;-).
>
> Ron
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 10 19:24:27 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:24:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] stripes info
In-Reply-To: <000c01c91343$d33963a0$79ac2ae0$@net>
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Some friends of mine used to do striping in the '70's and told me that the
secret to making vinyl stripes look good is to take off the clear protective
cover from the top, otherwise it looks too thick. I guess that the current
stripes are the same, I don't know.
Bill

> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> To: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:50:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stripes info
>
> I agree!!~!  The stripes Frank put on his car look GREAT!! And sure dont
> look like vinyl.  Just make sure you take time installing them and get out
> all the air pockets AND make sure they are straight OR just like painted on
> stripes they will look like crap.  Like anything prep and application makes
> all the difference.
>
> Leo
>
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>
> Thanks to everyone for the stripes reply. I had favored paint, but the
> vinyl answers sound fairly trouble free. I'll investigate.
> Dick B.
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 19:25:12 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:25:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
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References: <87a1f55d0809100729i4bf42530r42e1a3167f14fe88@mail.gmail.com>
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The spacers are just that... aluminum spacers in different thicknesses to
move the wheel out from the hub a tad. Winner's Circle probably carries them
still. I run 1/2 spacers because of the 205/60/13s that are on my car. I did
change to longer studs for use with that much spacer though. You might get
by with a 1/4 or 3/8 inch and not have to change the studs.
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:

> I have Minilites for my Bugeye project. They rub the tie rod end on one
> side so your "spacer" reply caught my attention. What is a spacer, where
> do I get them, and what size do I need to be able to use the 5x13 wheels
> on my bugeye?
> Thanks.
> Dick B. in NH

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep 10 19:42:16 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:42:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] tires
Message-ID: <964392354.20080910184216@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  I have a set of ET mags that have the offset built in. That is --the
  back spacing is 3 1/16" so it holds the wheel about 3/4"(?) further
  from the springs than stock. they're 5 1/2" wide. They won't fit on
  a square arch car but should go on a BE or RWA car, if anyone is
  interested.  Complete with unilugs and lug nuts. they'll work for 4
  x 4 or 4 x 4 1/4" bolt pattern.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Back Up My Hard Drive? Can't Find The Reverse Switch! 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 20:02:11 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:02:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <95BEFE7066D74B02AD7460A54C305AC4@HomeComputer>
References: <95BEFE7066D74B02AD7460A54C305AC4@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <48C87C23.4090609@comcast.net>

Dean Swanson wrote:
> But, Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the
> horn
>
>   
Do you mean the BMW lightning bolt on the horn push?
Only the Bugeyes had that and  I think it was a remnant of the big 
Healeys "flash" but I am not positive on that.
Maybe Donald had a bunch of BMW horn pushes he had to use up ;)
My buddy was into old Bmws and they had an almost identical horn flash.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 20:26:40 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
Message-ID: <117502.71170.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Terrific footage, but the engine still sounds more like a
> bumble bee on 
> steroids than an F1.

You're lucky you live where there are no good Italian restaurants - when you say a Ferrari at nearly 20,000 rpm doesn't sound like an F1 engine, men in dark suits with names like "Vinny the Wolf", "Fat Sal" and "Concrete Joey" sometimes visit shortly thereafter.

Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 10 20:27:51 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - need karaoke version of cell block tango (
 zeta jones version )
In-Reply-To: <0AF1567B5EDD4B66A81A2269A44F48FD@maind>
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A kind lister was able to find the perfect one for me.

Thanks a lot to everyone!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:24 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - need karaoke version of cell block tango ( 
zeta jones version )


> My daughter has a school project in her drama class and we need to find 
> this
> version of the song.  We find other versions, but not the right one.
>
> There is usually someone on this list that can point me in the right
> direction.
>
> HELP!!! :)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 20:36:27 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:36:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <117502.71170.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <117502.71170.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C8842B.3020700@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
>
>  men in dark suits with names like "Vinny the Wolf", "Fat Sal" and "Concrete Joey" sometimes visit shortly thereafter.
>
>   
Vinny the wolf?
Where the hell did you grow up? Longuylin?
It's Joey Bag o Donuts
Cement Sam, not Concrete joey.
And Big Sal or Big Sally, you don't call a big guy named Sal "fat"
WhatsamatterU?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 10 20:41:47 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:41:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A Ha!  think I found the tach problem
In-Reply-To: <117502.71170.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080911024147.RGCN17523.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

No, not the 80's band..

But I am missing the metal band that surrounds the "loop" assembly on the
back.  Is there a replacement part out there for this or a good way to
fabricate one?

Thanks
Chris

66 MKIII

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 20:48:40 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C8842B.3020700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <540298.71482.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> Vinny the wolf?
> Where the hell did you grow up? Longuylin?

There was a guy near a certain Ozone Park "business" when I was a kid who offed a guy and left teeth marks on his face. He acquired a similar nickname. The names have been changed to protect, um, the innocent. 

Anon

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 10 20:52:06 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:52:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C8842B.3020700@comcast.net>
References: <117502.71170.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48C8842B.3020700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48C887D6.10304@frontiernet.net>

 That's right.  My Uncle Sal would have hurt you bad.

As for your phony Italian friends, once they find out that I grew up in 
a world where even Ferraris red lined under 10,000, they will understand 
why I can't get used to the sound of a modern F1 car.

Kate


Frank Clarici wrote:And Big Sal or Big Sally, you don't call a big guy 
named Sal "fat"
> WhatsamatterU?
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 20:54:22 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:54:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A Ha!  think I found the tach problem
In-Reply-To: <20080911024147.RGCN17523.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
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Message-ID: <48C8885E.3010000@comcast.net>

Chris Manuel wrote:
> But I am missing the metal band that surrounds the "loop" assembly on the
> back.  Is there a replacement part out there for this or a good way to
> fabricate one?
>
>
>   
After a couple of tries, I managed to make one using some hobby brass 
off the rack at the local hardware store.
It's just two 90* bends and some work with a file, it was trying to 
drill the hole in the middle that was the tough part.
Try and hold that tiny piece on a block of wood and drill it.
I did get it drilled using a vice but I remember make a few of them 
before I got it right.
If I recall, I used a 1/4" wide thin strip of brass, it comes a foot 
long do you get plenty of tries for a couple of bucks.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 10 20:56:03 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
Message-ID: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>

I have a steering lock assembly that I think is from a '78-79 California car - it has an extra, slate-colored (S) wire and the plug is different size from mine ('74).  The only allen bolts I could find in the hardware store to replace the brake-away bolts were metric, "standard thread".  My mechanic/tutor insists (loudly and forcefully) that there are no metric bolts anywhere on a British car.  An yet, the metric ones were the only ones that fit.  If this lock is not British, I may need a different key blank. Any thoughts?  

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 10 20:59:05 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:59:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A Ha!  think I found the tach problem
In-Reply-To: <48C8885E.3010000@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080911025904.IOWN20228.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Excellent idea!  

I take it that this piece of metal cannot touch the rear housing?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:54 PM
To: Chris Manuel
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A Ha! think I found the tach problem

Chris Manuel wrote:
> But I am missing the metal band that surrounds the "loop" assembly on the
> back.  Is there a replacement part out there for this or a good way to
> fabricate one?
>
>
>   
After a couple of tries, I managed to make one using some hobby brass 
off the rack at the local hardware store.
It's just two 90* bends and some work with a file, it was trying to 
drill the hole in the middle that was the tough part.
Try and hold that tiny piece on a block of wood and drill it.
I did get it drilled using a vice but I remember make a few of them 
before I got it right.
If I recall, I used a 1/4" wide thin strip of brass, it comes a foot 
long do you get plenty of tries for a couple of bucks.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 10 22:15:35 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:15:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C8842B.3020700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEMBDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<It's Joey Bag o Donuts>>

Hey greaser, lay off a REAL live (and alive) Chicago Icon from Stonepark!!!!

He is also some what of an idol<G>!!

'Hopper, just do a google for him in Chi market area!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 10 22:23:21 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:23:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C887D6.10304@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Hey Kate...

<<As for your phony Italian friends, once they find out that I grew up in 
a world where even Ferraris red lined under 10,000>>

do you mean "and SOUNDED like REAL Ferraris"???  20k my a**!!

And cars that are NOT cars, just computers on wheels???

'Hopper could 'drive' one and WIN!!!  Now him and Flounder at Blackhawk,
each in one of those things called "F1 'cars' " WOULD be something WELL
worth watching!!!!!   Add PPP out there in his Mini.........(would WIN<G>)

<VBG>

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Sep 10 21:24:47 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:24:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
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I can live with the sound of a modern F1 car.  It's the computer controlled
everything and telemetry on everything that gets me.  The drivers should be
called steerers.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spa Video


> That's right.  My Uncle Sal would have hurt you bad.
>
> As for your phony Italian friends, once they find out that I grew up in
> a world where even Ferraris red lined under 10,000, they will understand
> why I can't get used to the sound of a modern F1 car.
>
> Kate
>
>
> Frank Clarici wrote:And Big Sal or Big Sally, you don't call a big guy
> named Sal "fat"
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 10 21:30:13 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:30:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
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Michael Rowe wrote:
> I have a steering lock assembly that I think is from a '78-79 California car - it has an extra, slate-colored (S) wire and the plug is different size from mine ('74).  The only allen bolts I could find in the hardware store to replace the brake-away bolts were metric, "standard thread".  My mechanic/tutor insists (loudly and forcefully) that there are no metric bolts anywhere on a British car.  An yet, the metric ones were the only ones that fit.  If this lock is not British, I may need a different key blank. Any thoughts?  
>
>   
They should be 5/16 x 24 thread.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep 10 21:30:16 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:30:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsche Announced as the Featured Marque for the Rolex
 36th Monterey Historic Automobile Races
Message-ID: <5656B541897449ED84C7071BA2E0FA60@TRACY>

Porsche Announced as the Featured Marque for the Rolex 36th Monterey
Historic Automobile Races
 
 Raceway Laguna Seca on August 14-16, 2009. 

 

I wonder if Steve Earl will ever feature Austin-Healeys

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 21:35:10 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:35:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> each in one of those things called "F1 'cars'
> " WOULD be something WELL
> worth watching!!!!!   Add PPP out there in his

That would be fun, but we don't do non-lever shocks. 

Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:

www.roadamerica.com
www.raceelvf.org

Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his Big Band. 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 10 21:40:03 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:40:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <48C89313.4000805@frontiernet.net>

> do you mean "and SOUNDED like REAL Ferraris"???  20k my a**!!
>   
Exactly what I mean!  You could tell a REAL Ferrari with your back 
turned from 1/2 mile away.
> And cars that are NOT cars, just computers on wheels???
>   
Where's the need for any real talent, when the car literally drives 
itself?  All the driver does is steer and go along for the ride.
>  Add PPP out there in his Mini.........(would WIN<G>)
> Not necessarily.  My Midget scoots along pretty good and I had a good teacher - a former team mate of Colin Chapman.  You & I are probably the only ones on this list who are even old enough to remember him.
>   
Kate
> <VBG>
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From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Sep 10 22:07:01 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:07:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C89313.4000805@frontiernet.net>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>,
	<48C89313.4000805@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <48C836F5.14199.2F8FB76@dmg.bossig.com>

Kate,

On 10 Sep 2008 at 20:40, Kathryn Bales wrote:
>>  You & I are probably the only ones on
>> this list who are even old enough to remember him.
Not So.... 
I well remember watching Colin Chapman, Sterling Moss, Mike Hawthorn. 
Fangio, etc racing in England and Europe..
Driving cars like ERA's, BRM's, Jag D-types, the Maserati 250F (drool) and 
lots of others that sounded like cars and had to be driven - not steered!!
  
A sight to watch used to be Moss in an 'old style' Le Mans start... He would 
leave his car in gear with the ignition turned ON. He'd run across the track, 
jump into the car with a stiff left leg and punch the starter with his hand as 
his butt hit the seat!! And he would often 'jump' the starting gun!!

And then along came chapmans cars like the Lotus 18 and he couldn't do 
that no more   ;-(

Anyone besides me remember Rob Walker???

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

Age is just a number?? What if you can't count above 20 ?!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 10 22:16:06 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <48C836F5.14199.2F8FB76@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <657094.54460.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> Anyone besides me remember Rob Walker???

Sure - even us 40-something kids remember those guys, even if they were just a tad before our time. I grew up reading his column in Road and Track, "Rob's Cars". I've owned Chapman's cars, for better or worse.

I've gotta get the laptop out of the workshop. I have anti-seize on the keyboard. The computer does seem faster now, though...

Ron

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Sep 11 05:05:05 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:05:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002101c913fe$45027660$cf076320$@com>

Road & Track's Peter Egan will be driving my car "Walter"
http://www.thicko.com/Walter.htm as the honorary pace car.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Soave
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:35 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video

--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> each in one of those things called "F1 'cars'
> " WOULD be something WELL
> worth watching!!!!!   Add PPP out there in his

That would be fun, but we don't do non-lever shocks. 

Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after this one
is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:

www.roadamerica.com
www.raceelvf.org

Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his Big
Band. 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 11 05:57:02 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:57:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
Message-ID: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I thought that originally the Bugeye Sprite arrows on the rear of the boot were chrome with red paint in the letters.  What is this hogwash about gold-painted.  That makes no sense!

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 7:59 PM
>To: Dean Swanson <d.swanson at earthlink.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
>
>Chrome or gold?
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:47 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
>
>
>Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the horn
>button) and the "SPRITE" script?
>
> 
>
>Dean
>
>'62 A.H. Sprite mkII
>
>

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From bpazur at excel.net  Thu Sep 11 07:22:49 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:22:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update
Message-ID: <200809111322.m8BDMnXO008125@green.excel.net>

I tried one of the wheels on my stock street Bugeye last night. While the
bolt pattern is correct, the wheels don't accept the standard 3/8" studs and
lug nuts. The holes in the wheels are about 5/8" in diameter and 3/4" deep.
The standard lug nuts don't go on far enough and don't center properly. These
wheels must have used special deep cap nuts, as evidenced by the paint
missing around the holes. The race Bugeye PO must have either used long 5/16"
studs, or had the special cap nuts. In any event, in good conscience, I am
going to cancel the auction. If anyone is still interested in these wheels in
light of the above info, contact me off-list. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Bud Pazur

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 11 07:20:33 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.
	earthlink.net>
References: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911081939.03975a98@nosimport.com>

Only on the OEW cars....

         J'Ed

At 06:57 AM 9/11/2008, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>I thought that originally the Bugeye Sprite arrows on the rear of 
>the boot were chrome with red paint in the letters.  What is this 
>hogwash about gold-painted.  That makes no sense!
>
>Mike C
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> >Sent: Sep 10, 2008 7:59 PM
> >To: Dean Swanson <d.swanson at earthlink.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
> >
> >Chrome or gold?
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
> >To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:47 PM
> >Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
> >
> >
> >Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the horn
> >button) and the "SPRITE" script?
> >
> >
> >
> >Dean
> >
> >'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 11 07:31:20 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:31:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spa Video
Message-ID: <23954877.1221139880664.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I didn't think that Colin Chapman did very much racing on his own after his fledgling Lotus Engineering developed and actually got off of the ground.  I remember that he drove a few early Sevens and an Eleven or two after his Mk III that he kicked butt with.  Chapman usually left the driving to the drivers.  I am sure that I missed a few rides but he quickly went about running his business that then went to kick some serious butts ;^)).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
>Sent: Sep 11, 2008 12:07 AM
>To: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>, spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spa Video
>
>Kate,
>
>On 10 Sep 2008 at 20:40, Kathryn Bales wrote:
>>>  You & I are probably the only ones on
>>> this list who are even old enough to remember him.
>Not So.... 
>I well remember watching Colin Chapman, Sterling Moss, Mike Hawthorn. 
>Fangio, etc racing in England and Europe..
>Driving cars like ERA's, BRM's, Jag D-types, the Maserati 250F (drool) and 
>lots of others that sounded like cars and had to be driven - not steered!!
>  
>A sight to watch used to be Moss in an 'old style' Le Mans start... He would 
>leave his car in gear with the ignition turned ON. He'd run across the track, 
>jump into the car with a stiff left leg and punch the starter with his hand as 
>his butt hit the seat!! And he would often 'jump' the starting gun!!
>
>And then along came chapmans cars like the Lotus 18 and he couldn't do 
>that no more   ;-(
>
>Anyone besides me remember Rob Walker???
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
>Age is just a number?? What if you can't count above 20 ?!


________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 11 07:37:52 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:37:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>

At 10:35 PM 9/10/2008, Ron Soave wrote:

>Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after 
>this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:
>
>www.roadamerica.com
>www.raceelvf.org
>
>Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his 
>Big Band.
========================

Listers, if you click on the www.racelevf.org  Ron is driving the 
white Bugeye.

I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a warm-up lap.

Honest.  I'm sure of it.



Peter C  ("White Trash" crew)

Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful time of year 
in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars are 
wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there. 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 11 07:46:21 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:46:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC -  Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>

Everyone should note that the Large Hadron Collider at CERN (big, new 
particle accelerator) started up yesterday and the earth did not collapse 
into a black hole.  There have been no particle collisions yet, so maybe the 
end of the world is still to come.

The guy in Hawaii who is suing CERN to prevent the end of the world will 
probably be unsuccessful.  I should point out that he was also unsuccessful 
in suing Brookhaven National Laboratory to prevent the Relativivistic Heavy 
Ion Collider from causing the end of the world eight years ago.  But that 
was before I started messing with LBC's, so maybe this one will be 
different.  Otherwise, we will just have to wait and consult with Father 
Jack.

The world is full of wackos.  Sprititeers are a miniscule portion of the 
total.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 07:59:18 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:59:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update
In-Reply-To: <200809111322.m8BDMnXO008125@green.excel.net>
References: <200809111322.m8BDMnXO008125@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809110659t7893f93fldaa17e361f3d0d06@mail.gmail.com>

IIRC, the holes on my Silverstones were about that size.  You need a
set of mag wheel lug nuts for those wheels.  I got some from someone
on the list long ago, but I can't remember who.  He had bought a large
quantity and was selling them at a reasonable cost.  You also have to
watch the depth of those mag wheel lug nuts.  I had to shorten mine so
they would not bottom out.  It seems like they used washers, too, but
it has been a while.
Cheers,
Derf

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 08:02:00 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:02:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC - Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net> <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809110702w1b1b1fdfjf3a987880b6d7a19@mail.gmail.com>

Sprititeers?  See what happens when you let anyone form a club?  There
will be no end to spin-offs now.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 11 08:26:07 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:26:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com><531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <CCA6020577284AA68D74188556D1997B@Larry>

The "e" & "l" were transposed.  Make it http://www.raceelvf.org/

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video


At 10:35 PM 9/10/2008, Ron Soave wrote:

>Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after 
>this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:
>
>www.roadamerica.com
>www.raceelvf.org
>
>Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his 
>Big Band.
========================

Listers, if you click on the www.racelevf.org  Ron is driving the 
white Bugeye.

I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a warm-up lap.

Honest.  I'm sure of it.



Peter C  ("White Trash" crew)

Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful time of year 
in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars are 
wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there. 
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 11 08:29:57 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:29:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
References: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <93E11F74B1FB4160A627C85290A750BC@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Dean Swanson" 
<d.swanson at earthlink.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos


I thought that originally the Bugeye Sprite arrows on the rear of the boot 
were chrome with red paint in the letters.  What is this hogwash about 
gold-painted.  That makes no sense!

Mike C

==========================================

Bill L said:

  by NOW everyone on the list knows that the logos came with gold
     silver arrows except for the gold arrow-head and "feathers" as
     well as gold letters up the sides with silver top surfaces. We've
     been over and over this!
------------

Bill???  Were you lying to us???

LAD

LAD 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 11 08:28:49 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:28:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC - Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910809110702w1b1b1fdfjf3a987880b6d7a19@mail.gmail.com>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net> <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
	<5f00d9910809110702w1b1b1fdfjf3a987880b6d7a19@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84267187868B4FDCA9995D329B227DA5@Home>

> Sprititeers?  See what happens when you let anyone form a club?  There
> will be no end to spin-offs now.

I do not accept responsibility for typos.  There should be some prerogatives 
of old age.

Michael Rowe 

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Sep 11 08:36:17 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:36:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC -  Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>,
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>,
	<C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
Message-ID: <48C8CA71.18801.1A7E88@dmg.bossig.com>

Three out of four folks have some sort of mental problem....
Check out three of your friends.
If they're OK, then the problem is you...

On 11 Sep 2008 at 9:46, Michael Rowe wrote:
>> The world is full of wackos.  Sprititeers are a miniscule portion of
>> the total.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 11 09:45:50 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update
In-Reply-To: <200809111322.m8BDMnXO008125@green.excel.net>
References: <200809111322.m8BDMnXO008125@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <48C93D2E.2030805@lehigh.edu>

Bud Pazur wrote:
> I tried one of the wheels on my stock street Bugeye last night. While the
> bolt pattern is correct, the wheels don't accept the standard 3/8" studs and
> lug nuts. The holes in the wheels are about 5/8" in diameter and 3/4" deep.
> The standard lug nuts don't go on far enough and don't center properly. These
> wheels must have used special deep cap nuts, as evidenced by the paint
> missing around the holes. The race Bugeye PO must have either used long 5/16"
> studs, or had the special cap nuts. In any event, in good conscience, I am
> going to cancel the auction. If anyone is still interested in these wheels in
> light of the above info, contact me off-list. Sorry for the inconvenience.
>
> Bud Pazur
>   
Bud,
Not too difficult to fix and I went through this search recently. My 
race car came back to me with the lug nuts for the Revolution wheels 
missing, and I needed 5/8' dia. sleeve nuts. What I learned was that 
they are available for 3/8 studs from Revolution wheels in England. 
Revolution did not have 5/8 sleeve nuts for 7/16 studs, which used to be 
available, so I decided on another, cheaper solution. I enlarged the 
holes to 11/16" dia to use .680" dia. sleeve nuts which seems to be the 
standard in the USA. Summit Racing Equipment has them for 7/16 studs, 
and Peter Baumgartner sells two styles on ebay for 3/8" studs. Pay 
particular attention to the sleeve length so you have adequate thread 
engagement, and the washer diameter because it has to fit in the 
counterbore. I ended up buying different sets becasue I need an 1-1/16 
OD washer and didn't want to turn down  the larger chromed washers. If 
you have any questions I'd be happy to dig into my stuff.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Thu Sep 11 09:52:22 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:52:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC -  Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <48C8CA71.18801.1A7E88@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>,
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>,
	<C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
	<48C8CA71.18801.1A7E88@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <03E06C2C-E962-4D97-AAFB-811906087BA7@valentinephoto.net>

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Dave G. wrote:

> Three out of four folks have some sort of mental problem....



And, five out of four people have trouble with fractions.....

From p.herder at cox.net  Thu Sep 11 10:02:24 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:02:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC -  Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <03E06C2C-E962-4D97-AAFB-811906087BA7@valentinephoto.net>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>,
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>,
	<C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
	<48C8CA71.18801.1A7E88@dmg.bossig.com>
	<03E06C2C-E962-4D97-AAFB-811906087BA7@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c91427$c84efe70$58ecfb50$@herder@cox.net>

On Sep 11, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Dave G. wrote:

> Three out of four folks have some sort of mental problem....



And, five out of four people have trouble with fractions.....



And there are three kinds of people in the world, those who understand math
and those who don't.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 11 10:13:03 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>

Michael Rowe Said:
>> I have a steering lock assembly that I think is from a '78-79 California 
>> car ......My mechanic/tutor insists (loudly and forcefully) that there 
>> are no metric bolts anywhere on a British car.

Frank Clarisi Said:
> They should be 5/16 x 24 thread.

Michael Rowe Replies:
Paraphrasing Galileo to the Catholic Church, "And yet, they are not."
I went to the hardware store and again tried every hole in the thread 
tester.   I tried a 5/16x24 bolt.  They do not fit.  The only think that 
fits is a 7mm x 1.25 STD thread bolt, with an easy, maybe slightly loose 
fit.  I still have the break-away bolts; they are not some substitution 
forced into the assembly unless someone got some other size of break-away 
bolts.

Ed the carmudgeon said:
>>or MIGHT actually be one of the VERY FEW
>>Whitworth or British Standard threaded places.

So guys and gals, are Whitworth or British Standard threads close enough to 
make a 7 mm x 1.25 bolt fit loosely?  How do I get points for being right 
for the first time ever on this list?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 11 10:23:43 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:23:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home><48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
	<FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>
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Ed the carmudgeon said:
>>or MIGHT actually be one of the VERY FEW
>>Whitworth or British Standard threaded places.

So guys and gals, are Whitworth or British Standard threads close enough to
make a 7 mm x 1.25 bolt fit loosely?  How do I get points for being right
for the first time ever on this list?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
_______________________________________________

Points can be had for either being right OR calling Ed a curmudgeon.  Either 
way, you're covered.


LAD 

From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Sep 11 10:36:09 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:36:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
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Michael actually called Ed a "carmudgeon" rather than a "curmudgeon".  Not
sure if one is less offensive than the other.  :-)

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?


> Ed the carmudgeon said:
> >>or MIGHT actually be one of the VERY FEW
> >>Whitworth or British Standard threaded places.
>
> So guys and gals, are Whitworth or British Standard threads close enough
to
> make a 7 mm x 1.25 bolt fit loosely?  How do I get points for being right
> for the first time ever on this list?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
>
> Points can be had for either being right OR calling Ed a curmudgeon.
Either
> way, you're covered.
>
>
> LAD

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 10:39:48 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809110939u4d38542do6a11d0c833ba4972@mail.gmail.com>

I just used a Dremel with a cutoff wheel to make the break-away bolts
into slotted screws.
IIRC, Frank is correct on the size, i.e. that is about the size I remember.
Cheers,
Derf

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep 11 10:49:50 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:49:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
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Even Mr. Ed admits that he's a curmudgeon, but at least he's a lovable 
curmudgeon - at least when he's not pissed about something.

What do I win?

Kate
> _______________________________________________
>
> Points can be had for either being right OR calling Ed a curmudgeon.  Either 
> way, you're covered.
>
>
> LAD 
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 11:02:29 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:02:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
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> What do I win?
>
> Kate


You win a date with Ed, of course.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Sep 11 11:21:57 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:21:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update
Message-ID: <19cf801c91432$e472d120$116a010a@mail2world.com>

I have a set of Western alloys on my 1500, and the holes are also that
size, but oval, for uni-lug. I bought a set of sleeved mag lug nuts with
3/8" thread off of ebay a few years ago, and they work great.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: derf [derf247 at gmail.com]
Sent: 9/11/2008 9:58:18 AM
To: bpazur at excel.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update 

IIRC, the holes on my Silverstones were about that size. You need a 
set of mag wheel lug nuts for those wheels. I got some from someone 
on the list long ago, but I can't remember who. He had bought a large 
quantity and was selling them at a reasonable cost. You also have to 
watch the depth of those mag wheel lug nuts. I had to shorten mine so 
they would not bottom out. It seems like they used washers, too, but 
it has been a while. 
Cheers, 
Derf 

. 

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Sep 11 11:22:52 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:22:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 9 stud or Not?
Message-ID: <20080911.112252.7860.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

A question for those on the list with experience with '58s- According to
Horler, they stopped putting 9 studs on the windshields around SN6000 or so,
My'58 (SN8016) has a works hardtop (I believe) with the long windshield
clamps. The clamps hook under the lip of the windshield frame, the frame looks
JUST LIKE the one on the MKII, except it has 9 STUDS across the top as well as
the lip. Did a DPO install these due to having a 9 stud soft top (which I
didn't get with the car), and if I were to get a soft top will I need a 9
stud, or the 59-64 style which goes under the lip? Inquiring mind wants to
know.
BTW the hardtop seems to fit the '62 MKII as well if that's any help.

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 11 11:42:29 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:42:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?


Even Mr. Ed admits that he's a curmudgeon, but at least he's a lovable
curmudgeon - at least when he's not pissed about something.

What do I win?

Kate
> _______________________________________________

Now, Kate, by calling him Mr. Ed, is that just a sly way of inferring he's a 
"horse's ass"?

LAD

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 11 11:56:48 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:56:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 9 stud or Not?
Message-ID: <15561738.1221155808531.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The 7 studs were installed ex post facto.  The windsihield frame of the early 9 stud has no lip to attach the hardtop clamp.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
>Sent: Sep 11, 2008 1:22 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] 9 stud or Not?
>
>A question for those on the list with experience with '58s- According to
>Horler, they stopped putting 9 studs on the windshields around SN6000 or so,
>My'58 (SN8016) has a works hardtop (I believe) with the long windshield
>clamps. The clamps hook under the lip of the windshield frame, the frame looks
>JUST LIKE the one on the MKII, except it has 9 STUDS across the top as well as
>the lip. Did a DPO install these due to having a 9 stud soft top (which I
>didn't get with the car), and if I were to get a soft top will I need a 9
>stud, or the 59-64 style which goes under the lip? Inquiring mind wants to
>know.
>BTW the hardtop seems to fit the '62 MKII as well if that's any help.
>
>Mark Haynes
>HAN6L12779
>HAN5L8016
>


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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep 11 12:25:58 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:25:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <E106C383870A45669249885E7AF6972B@Larry>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home><48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net><FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home><6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
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I'll have you know that a horse's ass can be a very useful commodity.  
Last winter I was snowed in for two weeks and 4 hoofed drive was my only 
means of transportation capable of getting me to the store. I came home 
with a 50# bag of dog food strapped behind my saddle to my mare's very 
capable ass, a 20# bag of cat food tied to the saddle on my lap, and my 
groceries in the saddle bags.  Without the horse's ass, I would have 
been walking and pulling a sled.

Kate
>
> Now, Kate, by calling him Mr. Ed, is that just a sly way of inferring he's a 
> "horse's ass"?
>
> LAD

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 13:22:34 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:22:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Updates...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I've updated the Holy Sprite online information. We are down to only 3 items
on the list of needed parts!!  Thank you so very much everyone!! Please take
a look and see if you can help with the remaining items.

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/partswanted.html

I also updated and alphabetized the list of donors and helpers. 63 groups,
businesses, organizations and individuals have helped to date!!  Thanks once
again. It just goes to show that there is nothing wrong with this old world
that a little kindness and generosity can't fix!  Please check the list and
let me know of any mistakes or omissions.  I will need the list to be
correct when we give it to Fr. Jack.

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/donors.html

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 11 13:26:35 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:26:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <00be01c9142c$7f3b0260$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
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	<00be01c9142c$7f3b0260$6401a8c0@refisk>
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> Michael actually called Ed a "carmudgeon" rather than a "curmudgeon".

A carmudgeon is a curmudgeon who is crusty and ill-tempered about cars.  I 
offer this definition in an attempt to pretend it was not a mistake.

I am still trying to bask in the unique aura of being right for once. 
Unfortunately, I was wrong again before I even finished being right.

Michael Rowe 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 11 13:29:09 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:29:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <2B0952E95BE94D61BCE95AA07C52D51D@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F340EAEB1FDA4384296D791B8560@phx.gbl>

If you can remove the left side of your body; ... you'll be all right.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:26:35 -0400

 > Michael actually called Ed a "carmudgeon" rather than a "curmudgeon".

A carmudgeon is a curmudgeon who is crusty and ill-tempered about cars.  I
offer this definition in an attempt to pretend it was not a mistake.

I am still trying to bask in the unique aura of being right for once.
Unfortunately, I was wrong again before I even finished being right.

Michael Rowe

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Sep 11 14:36:28 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:36:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 9 stud or Not?
Message-ID: <20080911.143628.13527.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Thanks Mike, I thought it was a DPO thing, but you never know if you haven't
seen one.

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016


The 7 studs were installed ex post facto.  The windsihield frame of the early
9 stud
has no lip to attach the hardtop clamp.


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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Thu Sep 11 14:43:03 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:43:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Firing order
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809111343l579969aake72dd2282043165e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys, we are trying to set the valves correctly and we need to know the
firing order of the 1275. Thank you!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 14:46:08 2008
From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Firing order
Message-ID: <93001.16739.qm@web110515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

1-3-4-2
 
Roger Cotting



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Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:43:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Firing order

Hey guys, we are trying to set the valves
correctly and we need to know the
firing order of the 1275. Thank you!

--
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 14:58:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
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But Michael... You said that you are always wrong. That makes you right
doesn't it?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim - who thought he was right once - until his wife explained it to him....

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> > Michael actually called Ed a "carmudgeon" rather than a "curmudgeon".
>
> A carmudgeon is a curmudgeon who is crusty and ill-tempered about cars.  I
> offer this definition in an attempt to pretend it was not a mistake.
>
> I am still trying to bask in the unique aura of being right for once.
> Unfortunately, I was wrong again before I even finished being right.

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 11 15:15:03 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:15:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Firing order
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809111343l579969aake72dd2282043165e@mail.gmail.co
  m>
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Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911161345.03b04db0@nosimport.com>

1342, but use the famous "rule of nines"  adjust 1 with 8 open, 2 
with 7 open, etc. and if you watch closely, you only do a rotaion or 2.
         Peter C
==
At 03:43 PM 9/11/2008, Matt Hagopian wrote:
>Hey guys, we are trying to set the valves correctly and we need to know the
>firing order of the 1275. Thank you!
>
>--
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Matt Hagopian

From bogodwin at bellsouth.net  Thu Sep 11 15:25:26 2008
From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:25:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALIEDGEFAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>

I know that they were gold with red insert on the 59-60 because I bought one
new and still have it.
						Bobby Godwin

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Mike/Donna Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:57 AM
To: Larry Daniels; Dean Swanson; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos

I thought that originally the Bugeye Sprite arrows on the rear of the boot
were chrome with red paint in the letters.  What is this hogwash about
gold-painted.  That makes no sense!

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Sep 10, 2008 7:59 PM
>To: Dean Swanson <d.swanson at earthlink.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
>
>Chrome or gold?
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:47 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
>
>
>Was there ever a Sprite logo that had the lightning bolt (like on the horn
>button) and the "SPRITE" script?
>
>
>
>Dean
>
>'62 A.H. Sprite mkII
>
>

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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Sep 11 15:33:28 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:33:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Firing order
References: <87a1f55d0809111343l579969aake72dd2282043165e@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080911161345.03b04db0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <A5D9B8EFC4F34396860C13C1A97F06AD@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

And as most know, put it in 2nd or 3rd on level ground and you can just bump 
it with your thighs to advance to the next valve.  Takes about 5 feet to get 
through all 8 valves.(less in 1st or reverse, but you have to bump it 
harder).

Glen

> 1342, but use the famous "rule of nines"  adjust 1 with 8 open, 2
> with 7 open, etc. and if you watch closely, you only do a rotaion or 2.
>         Peter C

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 11 16:00:59 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:00:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <2B0952E95BE94D61BCE95AA07C52D51D@Home>
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Now that we have all had a chuckle at my expense, what size are these *^#% 
bolts?  They are not 5/16x24 by several tests.  They are not metric by 
proclamation of He-who-is-always-right.  A 7 mm x 1.25 STD thread bolt fits. 
And what are these things that cannot exist doing in a '78-'79 Midget 
stearing lock?  Is it from another European car?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 17:06:15 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:06:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <977986.35201.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 8:37 AM
> At 10:35 PM 9/10/2008, Ron Soave wrote:
> 
> >Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event,
> weekend after 
> >this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:
> >
> >www.roadamerica.com
> >www.raceelvf.org
> >
> >Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The
> Osthoff with his 
> >Big Band.
> ========================
> 
> Listers, if you click on the www.racelevf.org  Ron is
> driving the 
> white Bugeye.
> 
> I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a
> warm-up lap.
> 
> Honest.  I'm sure of it.
> 
> 
> 
> Peter C  ("White Trash" crew)
> 
> Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful
> time of year 
> in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars
> are 
> wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there. 
> _______________________________________________
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 17:15:23 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:15:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
Message-ID: <491202.63447.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a
> warm-up lap.

Yeah, cones re out, Jeff's practice wheels are on the car. Jeff wrecked his car 2 turns later. He seems to have trouble passing and leading. Not sure what that leaves....

White Trash was in great form that weekend - finished first in class by 71 seconds in a 5 lap / 20 mile race ;-). Flounder won the 948 group despite Chris Ducklow's attempts to collect him a few times ;-).

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 17:21:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike Warnings....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809111621q24d5c79axff514cc323af3aeb@mail.gmail.com>

For our members around the Houston, Galveston, Baytown, La Porte area...

Please pack up immediately and GET OUT!  Dallas or San Antonio should be
safe. Please don't take a chance on this storm. I am a retired meteorologist
and can say with some surety that Ike is going to absolutely hammer the
area!  Worst conditions will be from Freeport up through Galveston and on
through High Island but things will be just as bad when the storm surge
moves into Galveston Bay and the Houston ship channel. If you stay in those
areas...   well......

Across Houston the storm surge will not be so much of a problem but
torrential rains and hurricane winds will cause major flooding and lots of
roof and tree damage. Power will be out for a long time and food and water
will become critical.

Please don't take a chance on this one, folks....   This is the most
dangerous storm for the Houston area I have seen in my 42 years as a
meteorologist and I lived in Houston for 3 years!!   Please pack up and
leave NOW!

A very concerned Spridgeteer,
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 17:24:40 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:24:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Alloy Wheels On Ebay Important Update
In-Reply-To: <48C93D2E.2030805@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <382803.70772.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
> Not too difficult to fix and I went through this search
> recently. My 
> race car came back to me with the lug nuts for the
> Revolution wheels 
> missing, and I needed 5/8' dia. sleeve nuts. What I

What John said, exactly. I have those same wheels (they are NOT original Rostyles as someone said earlier). I use the Moroso 7/16 studs with .680 shoulder lug nuts.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 17:38:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:38:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC -  Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
Message-ID: <83049.55039.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> Everyone should note that the Large Hadron Collider at CERN
> (big, new 
> particle accelerator) started up yesterday and the earth
> did not collapse 
> into a black hole.  There have been no particle collisions

Yes, the one constant in the universe is paranoia. I worked at Los Alamos on the Ground Test Accelerator project in the early 90s. I read a few years ago that all the workers on the project were aliens, and there was no accelerator (the tunnel was a mile long packed with an RFQ, DTL and target - I can assure you it was real). 

Earthling AFAIK,
Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 17:43:26 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <491202.63447.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <491202.63447.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809111643m19e4c348k460520bdfa827b15@mail.gmail.com>

Ron, Peter...et al,

Ummmm....   Not a sure thing by any means this far out in time, but it looks
increasingly like you will see a cold front push through the area some time
during the ELVF weekend and it could well bring a lot of thunderstorms and
rain....   ;-(    How's the bugeye in the wet, Ron?

Just so you know....   I'll be watching it for you...

FYI, nephew Chris Streit is at Mid Ohio this weekend at the NASA Nationals.
I expect he will podium in Group H - German Touring Car...  They are doing a
webcast of the race if anyone is interested.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> > I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a
> > warm-up lap.
>
> Yeah, cones re out, Jeff's practice wheels are on the car. Jeff wrecked his
> car 2 turns later. He seems to have trouble passing and leading. Not sure
> what that leaves....
>
> White Trash was in great form that weekend - finished first in class by 71
> seconds in a 5 lap / 20 mile race ;-). Flounder won the 948 group despite
> Chris Ducklow's attempts to collect him a few times ;-).
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 17:48:37 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:48:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC - Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <83049.55039.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C47EAEDD767B46ED8ACCD0659B4A8AC4@Home>
	<83049.55039.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809111648i1ca3b456j6d460c666ddc55f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, the one constant in the universe is paranoia.


You'd be paranoid too if everybody was out to get you!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 17:48:59 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:48:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809111643m19e4c348k460520bdfa827b15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205753.12466.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ummmm....   Not a sure thing by any means this far out in
> time, but it looks
> increasingly like you will see a cold front push through
> the area some time
> during the ELVF weekend and it could well bring a lot of
> thunderstorms and
> rain....   ;-(

Nah, if the weather dudes say "rain" over a week in advance, I may as well put away the rain tires now. There was a 90% chance of rain predicted the day before the KIC this year, and not a drop fell!

I've got these killer Hoosier rain tires, been keen to try them.

Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 11 20:24:26 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:24:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <977986.35201.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEEPDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<> I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a warm-up lap.
Honest.  I'm sure of it.>>

Some how (from the pic) I SERIOUSLY doubt you, 'Hopper!!

Besides in looking at the pic it appears to me that besides your GREAT 
'racing posture' (upper body & head still at 90 degrees to car body) and
the car's posture, compared to Jeff, you PASSED him shortly after the
pic was snapped!?!?!?!?!

Anon

<G>

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 11 19:28:35 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:28:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1081339502.20080911182835@pacifier.com>

Hello Mike/Donna,

     NOT gold PAINTED. GOLD PLATED. This was in the day BEFORE
     electroplate became the way that it was done and they had genuine
     english goldsmiths (only those having served eight year
     apprenticeships in the craft) molding genuine 18 carat gold to
     the arrows. the arrows were cast in such a manner that the arrow
     head was slightly thinner than the rest (except the feather part,
     also in REAL GOLD) so that when the gold plating was attached
     there was NO change in the thickness and the seam was
     indiscernible. Most of these originals have long since been
     replaced as people found out about the REAL GOLD and stripped it
     from the arrows, necessitating replacement and causing confusion
     to this day about what was original, Gold or Silver. As Peter C.
     says this came only on the Olde English White cars, which were
     the first run from the factory. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  If you think you have no faults, that makes one. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 11 19:31:04 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:31:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48C94C2E.1020309@frontiernet.net>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home><48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
	<FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>
	<6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
	<48C94C2E.1020309@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1933930953.20080911183104@pacifier.com>

Hello Kathryn,

     careful.. you may "Win a Date with ED"!!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Me, indecisive? I'm not so sure about that. 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep 11 19:34:28 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:34:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <1933930953.20080911183104@pacifier.com>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home><48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
	<FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>
	<6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
	<48C94C2E.1020309@frontiernet.net>
	<1933930953.20080911183104@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48C9C724.9040803@frontiernet.net>

Ed is quite safe from my evil clutches.  I don't date married men.

Kate


Bill L wrote:
> Hello Kathryn,
>
>      careful.. you may "Win a Date with ED"!!

From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu Sep 11 19:42:03 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:42:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mag wheel nuts
Message-ID: <434720.73023.qm@web84004.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bud,
 
There is a complete set of the wheel nuts you need on fleabay, item
#250293913195

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Sep 11 20:00:01 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:00:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LHC - Little LBC content
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809111648i1ca3b456j6d460c666ddc55f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080912020011.74C93187868@autox.team.net>

It is not paranoia if "they" are really out to get you. The only constant in
the universe is change.
		Crash


On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, the one constant in the universe is paranoia.


You'd be paranoid too if everybody was out to get you!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Sep 11 20:26:29 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:26:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Leo
Message-ID: <B94E86EDCFC04EAC90079A37D3296C35@personal>

Get the heck out man and take Iris with you.

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 11 22:18:52 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:18:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Updates...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEFHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Since that lame a** site seems to no longer START with the beginning,

just HOW do you recommend that I intro a group to sol licit a goodly
donation.

I mean what would/SHOULD be the 'index.htm' page starts with H.S.
being IN Joisey?!?!?!?!?!?

Nice 'intro'.

Or maybe a hundred here and there is no longer desired???  Interesting.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep 11 21:20:56 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:20:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48C94C2E.1020309@frontiernet.net>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home><48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net>
	<FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>
	<6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
	<48C94C2E.1020309@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <48C9E018.60203@comcast.net>

Kathryn Bales wrote:
> Even Mr. Ed admits that he's a curmudgeon, but at least he's a lovable 
> curmudgeon - at least when he's not pissed about something.
>
> What do I win?
>
>
>   


A night on the town with Mr. Ed

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep 11 21:24:59 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:24:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 9 stud or Not?
In-Reply-To: <20080911.143628.13527.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080911.143628.13527.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <48C9E10B.9070906@comcast.net>

Mark Haynes wrote:
> Thanks Mike, I thought it was a DPO thing, but you never know if you haven't
> seen one.
>
>   
The windshield frame on an early 58 will come apart with some screws at 
the bottom corners.
The later ones are of a 1 piece design.
So probably a DPO move but you can easily check to see if the frame is 1 
piece or not.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 21:42:34 2008
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:42:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ok, here is another easy one
Message-ID: <912279.89295.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I am filled up with silly questions...You know, I just got a set of Wipers
from Eds shop..They look good...but I have a bit of a difficulty..Since I am
now replacing the arms, I have to ask a question that is another silly
one...Is there some special way or trick to removing the arms, it seems they
do not pull off, screw off or any other kind of off...any ideas...Heck get
your 5 year olds up, they can probably answer it better than I
can..LOL....Next I attack leaks.,....but we shall worry about that once I can
drive in the rain....
 
Thanks in advance folks...

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep 11 21:53:22 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:53:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ok, here is another easy one
In-Reply-To: <912279.89295.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <912279.89295.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48C9E7B2.2040902@comcast.net>

John Colclasure wrote:
> Is there some special way or trick to removing the arms, 

Some have screws on top, if you do not see any screws where the arm 
meets the wheel box, they just pull off.
Watch your chin and give them a good wiggle (hold one from moving while 
wiggling the other.
Sometimes you have to pry them off, use a block of wood with a towel 
around it as a backer before prying under the arm.
You will dent the body, ask me how I know ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 11 22:05:17 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:05:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
Message-ID: <872666.80005.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/11/08, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What do I win?
> >
> > Kate
> 
> You win a date with Ed, of course.

Runner up gets 2 dates.

Anon

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Sep 11 22:55:14 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:55:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALIEDGEFAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>
References: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALIEDGEFAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <25234D0F-4717-4C3A-8D93-43D06657D3B1@mac.com>

Me too.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 11, 2008, at 2:25 PM, Bobby Godwin wrote:

> I know that they were gold with red insert on the 59-60 because I  
> bought one
> new and still have it.
> 						Bobby Godwin

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 23:11:00 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:11:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Logos
In-Reply-To: <1081339502.20080911182835@pacifier.com>
References: <22785801.1221134222280.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<1081339502.20080911182835@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809112211s7e3d1ab7vd353a30ac3deed8d@mail.gmail.com>

>  NOT gold PAINTED. GOLD PLATED. --


Did you know that 1 ounce of gold is so malleable that it can be so thin as
to cover an entire acre?

Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 11 23:26:56 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:26:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE:  Holy Sprite Updates...
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEFHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEFHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809112226x6cca8decpe5b9375bf266fb06@mail.gmail.com>

That "lame a$$" site as you put it has done its job very nicely. There is
little sense in having the "Journey of Redemption" page as the index now
since the Journey is complete and the Transubstantiation is now in progress.
I've never actually done a "sol licit" before. Please enlighten this poor
ignorant servant.  ;-)

If you look at the parts wanted page you'll see that virtually all of the
needed parts have been donated. Fr. Jack has sold his Midget so the required
funding is virtually complete. If anyone still wants to donate, point them
to the same .pdf file at:

  http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/help.pdf

BTW, an "index" page only needs to be titled "index.html" when it is the
opening page on the DNS and you don't want to use a full IP address - but
you already knew that didn't you.  That "Lame a$$" site will go away when
the project is finished. Fr. Jack doesn't do computers. He'll have his
scrapbook on paper. If you want any of the code, grab it now. Some might end
up on the Sprite-Midget Club website eventually. You're welcome to whatever
you want to grab there as well.

If you want to preserve any of this stuff on your "holysprite.org" domain
you are more than welcome to it. I was only interested in getting the job
done, not in preserving it for perpetuity. In two months the car will be
complete and the job will be done.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

>   Since that lame a** site seems to no longer START with the beginning,
>
> just HOW do you recommend that I intro a group to sol licit a goodly
> donation.
>
> I mean what would/SHOULD be the 'index.htm' page starts with H.S.
> being IN Joisey?!?!?!?!?!?
>
> Nice 'intro'.
>
> Or maybe a hundred here and there is no longer desired??? Interesting.

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Sep 12 06:03:28 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:03:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Solenoid update
Message-ID: <010901c914cf$918d1d60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

I finally had a few minutes to spare, last night, when I got home from
work.  So, I began to track down the electrical fault, which I suspected
(note past tense, here) to be the starter solenoid.  Step one was to
confirm what I was already 99% sure of: all related connections were
found to be clean and tight.
Step two was to determine the true condition of the battery.  I had put
the charger on the previous evening, and let it charge over night (too
tired to come back out & check it that night), so I figured it would
have a pretty good charge in it.  However, the tester showed only about
12.1 volts, and dropped immediately into the heart of the "weak" range
when I put a load on it.
So....I suspect that I have found the problem, and will replace the
battery later today, or tomorrow morning.  I don't have another good 12v
battery near enough to the car to jump, and, since I've confirmed that
the battery in the car is weak, I'm going to eliminate that step
(jumping) and see what happens with a new battery.
I'll report the final (I hope) outcome after I've installed the new
battery.  To bad it's going to be raining for the next four or five days
:(
Bud Osbourne

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Sep 12 05:54:59 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:54:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <B712E487EA9B42A3924715C2A4B35B4F@Home>
References: <05F56CB04F3945DF8AEDA7630B86A8D5@Home>
	<48C890C5.5050602@comcast.net> <FF127BBD0B06400AA4AADF59D03DA475@Home>
	<6D4A01C8CF7C4EBAB8F79D0832FBF8AE@Larry>
	<00be01c9142c$7f3b0260$6401a8c0@refisk>
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Message-ID: <48CA5893.7040706@lehigh.edu>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> Now that we have all had a chuckle at my expense, what size are these *^#% 
> bolts?  They are not 5/16x24 by several tests.  They are not metric by 
> proclamation of He-who-is-always-right.  A 7 mm x 1.25 STD thread bolt fits. 
> And what are these things that cannot exist doing in a '78-'79 Midget 
> stearing lock?  Is it from another European car?
>
>   
Hi Michael,
I am looking at the thread chart for British Standard Whitworth Series, 
and there is one size that is very close on the pitch, but the 
dia.differs by .025". I will venture to say it can't be BSW. Is it 
possible that the PO machined the original bolts flush and drilled & 
taped the holes to M7x1.25?   Can you see any evidence of that?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From bighealey at charter.net  Fri Sep 12 06:15:26 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:15:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
Message-ID: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>

Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.

 

Items needed

 

Beer

Dancing Girls

Fuel coupons

Beer

More Dancing Girls

Donkey

Beer

Fire Engine

Tommy gun

More beer

 

 

Tracy 

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 12 06:37:22 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:37:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE:  Holy Sprite Updates...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809112226x6cca8decpe5b9375bf266fb06@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com><CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEFHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<43840a7e0809112226x6cca8decpe5b9375bf266fb06@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <091220081237.5562.48CA6281000DA946000015BA22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

Better than the movie "Gladiator".

  -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>: --------------


> That "lame a$$" site as you put it has done its job very nicely. There is
> little sense in having the "Journey of Redemption" page as the index now
> since the Journey is complete and the Transubstantiation is now in progress.
> I've never actually done a "sol licit" before. Please enlighten this poor
> ignorant servant.  ;-)
> 
> If you look at the parts wanted page you'll see that virtually all of the
> needed parts have been donated. Fr. Jack has sold his Midget so the required
> funding is virtually complete. If anyone still wants to donate, point them
> to the same .pdf file at:
> 
>   http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/help.pdf
> 
> BTW, an "index" page only needs to be titled "index.html" when it is the
> opening page on the DNS and you don't want to use a full IP address - but
> you already knew that didn't you.  That "Lame a$$" site will go away when
> the project is finished. Fr. Jack doesn't do computers. He'll have his
> scrapbook on paper. If you want any of the code, grab it now. Some might end
> up on the Sprite-Midget Club website eventually. You're welcome to whatever
> you want to grab there as well.
> 
> If you want to preserve any of this stuff on your "holysprite.org" domain
> you are more than welcome to it. I was only interested in getting the job
> done, not in preserving it for perpetuity. In two months the car will be
> complete and the job will be done.
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Ed's Shop  wrote:
> 
> >   Since that lame a** site seems to no longer START with the beginning,
> >
> > just HOW do you recommend that I intro a group to sol licit a goodly
> > donation.
> >
> > I mean what would/SHOULD be the 'index.htm' page starts with H.S.
> > being IN Joisey?!?!?!?!?!?
> >
> > Nice 'intro'.
> >
> > Or maybe a hundred here and there is no longer desired??? Interesting.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Sep 12 06:50:16 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:50:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
In-Reply-To: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
References: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
Message-ID: <000801c914d6$1cb439e0$561cada0$@com>

Donkey?

Who needs a donkey when you've got an ass like Ed?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Tracy Drummond
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget

Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.

 

Items needed

 

Beer

Dancing Girls

Fuel coupons

Beer

More Dancing Girls

Donkey

Beer

Fire Engine

Tommy gun

More beer

 

 

Tracy 

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Sep 12 07:25:44 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:25:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <48CA6DD8.7080009@lehigh.edu>

Peter C wrote:
> Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful time of year 
> in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars are 
> wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there. 
>   
Unfortunately I can't make the trip this year, but I am looking forward 
to seeing Road America for the first time next fall when the SCCA 
Runoffs will be held there. Lots of folks from the east are already 
planning the annual runoffs pilgrimage, which ended for many by the 
uninteresting venue choice of Heartland Park, KS. Maybe I will meet some 
of you there, if not before.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Fri Sep 12 09:13:48 2008
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:13:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
Message-ID: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>

With all the news about Galveston Texas getting the brunt of the Hurricane 
Ike, I was just having some thoughts of our members there.  Having been to some 
Texas Roundups in the past, I have seen many beautiful Healeys, both big & 
Bugeye.
Any word on our friends?
Rudy Streng
Lenoir, NC
BN4 & AN5



**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, 
plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.      
(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 12 09:29:43 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:29:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48C9C724.9040803@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>

( my dyslexic mind ... )

But, do you marry dated men?

RD

----Original Message Follows----

I don't date married men.

Kate

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 09:39:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:39:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
In-Reply-To: <000801c914d6$1cb439e0$561cada0$@com>
References: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
	<000801c914d6$1cb439e0$561cada0$@com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809120839t4103540dwa0007cd5d766f6f5@mail.gmail.com>

Big difference between a Donkey and Ed, Flounder. No way can you get drunk
enough to have sex with Ed!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com
> wrote:

> Donkey?
>
> Who needs a donkey when you've got an ass like Ed?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Tracy Drummond
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
>
> Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.
>
>
>
> Items needed
>
>
>
> Beer
>
> Dancing Girls
>
> Fuel coupons
>
> Beer
>
> More Dancing Girls
>
> Donkey
>
> Beer
>
> Fire Engine
>
> Tommy gun
>
> More beer
>
>
>
>
>
> Tracy
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
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Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 09:49:05 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:49:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>

All,  (Rudy - could you repost to the Healey lists?)

Since so many of us have friends or family in the impact area, I thought I
would provide a meteorologists take on the situation with Hurricane Ike.

First of all, as a comparison, Ike *may* be as strong as the fabled 1900
Galveston Hurricane that took around 8,000 lives. This is a difficult
comparison to make because in 1900 there was no warning for those poor
people as the worst of the storm hit at night and we didn't have the
satellites and ocean buoys we do today. Forensic evidence holds that this
storm was a Category 4 (131-155mph sustained - 145-180mph gusts - Storm
Surge 13-18 feet) when it made landfall. You can see the eerie similarity to
Ike's path and strength here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston_Hurricane_of_1900

The current forecasts for Ike show the eye making landfall at around
midnight CST tonight just southwest of Galveston and continue north
northwest along a path just to the west of I-45 from Galveston to Houston.
It is forecast to be very close in strength to the 1900 storm at that time.
You can see the latest information on Ike storm at:  http://www.nhc.noaa.gov

Compare the two. They are almost identical.  The storm surge going up into
Galveston Bay and the Houston ship channel is scary. Much will depend upon
how well the Galveston seawall holds up. It wasn't there in 1900.

If you are still in contact with anyone in the storm impact area, please
urge them again to leave while there is still time to get out. I just
got off the phone with Leo Speichinger in Baytown trying to convince him to
get out...  Baytown will be hit very hard.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM, <CAWS52803 at aol.com> wrote:

> With all the news about Galveston Texas getting the brunt of the Hurricane
> Ike, I was just having some thoughts of our members there.  Having been to
> some
> Texas Roundups in the past, I have seen many beautiful Healeys, both big &
> Bugeye.
> Any word on our friends?
> Rudy Streng
> Lenoir, NC
> BN4 & AN5

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 09:51:16 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:51:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
In-Reply-To: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
References: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809120851p6680346amf206c5999c78b99c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>wrote:

Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.

Items needed:  Tommy gun

It's on its way... Go ahead and apply for your tax stamp. They used to be
$300 but that was several years ago so they might have gone up!


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 12 09:52:27 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:52:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <091220081552.29440.48CA903B0006FD270000730022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

Weatherdog sez:

First the storm has to make landfall.

 -------------- Original message from CAWS52803 at aol.com: --------------


> With all the news about Galveston Texas getting the brunt of the Hurricane
> Ike, I was just having some thoughts of our members there.  Having been to
some
> Texas Roundups in the past, I have seen many beautiful Healeys, both big &
> Bugeye.
> Any word on our friends?
> Rudy Streng
> Lenoir, NC
> BN4 & AN5

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Sep 12 10:04:02 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:04:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
Message-ID: <48CA3082.6466.59126CE@dmg.bossig.com>

Per thenews.... Ike is probably going to hit that part of Texas that refines 
1/4 of the gas produced in the USA...
If that is so, production will be drastically reduced and will give the oil 
companies a great excuse to up the price (again)!!
So, I'm filling up both my gas tanks and both my Jerry Cans today!!
It's not much but it'll save me a few bucks ...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 12 10:23:41 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:23:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>

I have no intention of getting married again, but any man that I might 
date would, because of my age, need to also be dated.

Kate

Robert Duquette wrote:
> ( my dyslexic mind ... )
>
> But, do you marry dated men?
>
> RD

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 12 10:47:28 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:47:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <091220081552.29440.48CA903B0006FD270000730022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36E8B8FE88BD4145828135B8510@phx.gbl>

>>First the storm has to make landfall.

How far does the land have to fall?  ;)

This storm is possibly coming up my way after it diminishes to next to 
nothing but rain.

Last time that happened, that I can remember, my basement ( and hundreds of 
others ) flooded.  Just having a messy partly finished basement flood with a 
couple of inches is a real pain in the donkey.  Other destruction I can 
barely imagine ... but your lives and those of your family are paramount.  
Take care!

And, BTW, if your basement does flood, take into consideration what water 
and electricity can do for you, before you do like someone who shall remain 
unnamed, and walk into the water in your bare feet.

My brother-in-law lives in the Caribbean and he routinely stays for the 
storms.  He was on Grand Cayman when that wave went over the island.  Missed 
the house he was in, but wiped out his business.  Probably a lot more people 
die in a Canadian winter than during most hurricane seasons, but I don't 
think I want to experience a hurricane ... especially if I had family with 
me.


----Original Message Follows----

Weatherdog sez:

First the storm has to make landfall.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 12 10:48:14 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:48:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
	<43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CA9D4E.6070909@frontiernet.net>

What is the lated word on the Corpus Christi area?  I have a friend 
living about 250 yards from the sea wall.

Kate
>
> Since so many of us have friends or family in the impact area, I thought I
> would provide a meteorologists take on the situation with Hurricane Ike.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 12 10:49:09 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
In-Reply-To: <48CA3082.6466.59126CE@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36D1253D5E28D1D5FB3B01B8510@phx.gbl>

Gas went up 13 cents a litre here overnight.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>

Per thenews.... Ike is probably going to hit that part of Texas that refines
1/4 of the gas produced in the USA...
If that is so, production will be drastically reduced and will give the oil
companies a great excuse to up the price (again)!!
So, I'm filling up both my gas tanks and both my Jerry Cans today!!
It's not much but it'll save me a few bucks ...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 12 11:00:50 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:00:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
	<48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>

This has to be the only site anywhere in which a thread about wierd bolts 
turns into a dating service for old farts.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 12 11:13:54 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0809120851p6680346amf206c5999c78b99c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4EFF162.199E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Items needed:  Tommy gun
Why not a .50cal mounted behind the passenger seat. It would stick up far
enough for other drivers to see, making it a safety feature.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 12 11:15:17 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:15:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F36D1253D5E28D1D5FB3B01B8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4EFF1B5.199E6%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Gas went up 13 cents a litre here overnight.
You have metric gas?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 12 11:21:23 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:21:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
In-Reply-To: <C4EFF1B5.199E6%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F404241BCBD18FF0F2F5B4CB8510@phx.gbl>

Yes, we buy gasoline by the litre.

( Assuming that you were talking about the same gas that I was. )

----Original Message Follows----
From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>,<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:15:17 -0700

 > Gas went up 13 cents a litre here overnight.
You have metric gas?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 12 11:22:30 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:22:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
References: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY><000801c914d6$1cb439e0$561cada0$@com>
	<43840a7e0809120839t4103540dwa0007cd5d766f6f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A9F198B599643899A91AEA6CE96098F@Larry>

JJ, that kinda implies that you could get drunk enough to have sex with a 
donkey, doesn't it?

You don't need to explain.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget


Big difference between a Donkey and Ed, Flounder. No way can you get drunk
enough to have sex with Ed!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com
> wrote:

> Donkey?
>
> Who needs a donkey when you've got an ass like Ed?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Tracy Drummond
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
>
> Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.
>
>
>
> Items needed
>
>
>
> Beer
>
> Dancing Girls
>
> Fuel coupons
>
> Beer
>
> More Dancing Girls
>
> Donkey
>
> Beer
>
> Fire Engine
>
> Tommy gun
>
> More beer
>
>
>
>
>
> Tracy
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 11:28:04 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:28:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
In-Reply-To: <0A9F198B599643899A91AEA6CE96098F@Larry>
References: <D86C0B6D2B1B4150A0E6507968FFBC3E@TRACY>
	<000801c914d6$1cb439e0$561cada0$@com>
	<43840a7e0809120839t4103540dwa0007cd5d766f6f5@mail.gmail.com>
	<0A9F198B599643899A91AEA6CE96098F@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809121028x2855e148t81276593b5d68282@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, we had beer blasts in my college fraternity didn't you?  Also, when I
came back from "Sunny Southeast Asia" we did party just a little bit....
Who knows what we had sex with then?!   Besides, they cross pollinate
plants, don't they...??   Is this hole I'm digging getting deeper or what?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> JJ, that kinda implies that you could get drunk enough to have sex with a
> donkey, doesn't it?
>
> You don't need to explain.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
>
>
> Big difference between a Donkey and Ed, Flounder. No way can you get drunk
> enough to have sex with Ed!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
> wsthompson at thicko.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Donkey?
> >
> > Who needs a donkey when you've got an ass like Ed?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson><spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> > thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> > Tracy Drummond
> > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:15 AM
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Unholy Midget
> >
> > Now accepting donations and parts for the Unholy Midget.
> >
> >
> >
> > Items needed
> >
> >
> >
> > Beer
> >
> > Dancing Girls
> >
> > Fuel coupons
> >
> > Beer
> >
> > More Dancing Girls
> >
> > Donkey
> >
> > Beer
> >
> > Fire Engine
> >
> > Tommy gun
> >
> > More beer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tracy
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
> >
> > http://www.team.net/archive
> >
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
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>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Sep 12 11:37:28 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:37:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com><531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F01832@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Good thing it's so beautiful...in a Spridget you have a lot of time to
look at it!

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:38 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video

At 10:35 PM 9/10/2008, Ron Soave wrote:

>Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after
>this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:
>
>www.roadamerica.com
>www.raceelvf.org
>
>Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his
>Big Band.
========================

Listers, if you click on the www.racelevf.org  Ron is driving the
white Bugeye.

I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a warm-up lap.

Honest.  I'm sure of it.



Peter C  ("White Trash" crew)

Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful time of year
in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars are
wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there.

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 12 11:45:04 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:45:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re:  Spa Video
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F01832@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.m
	ed.va.gov>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEMCDHAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<531823.37209.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080911083143.039ea088@nosimport.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F01832@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080912124418.03b9e868@nosimport.com>

Yeah, like sitting in a deer stand... bring a bow  LOL

You coming?

Peter
==
At 12:37 PM 9/12/2008, Deikis, John G wrote:
>Good thing it's so beautiful...in a Spridget you have a lot of time to
>look at it!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:38 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Sprite 50th and Re: Spa Video
>
>At 10:35 PM 9/10/2008, Ron Soave wrote:
>
> >Seriously, for THE Spridget 50th vintage race event, weekend after
> >this one is Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival:
> >
> >www.roadamerica.com
> >www.raceelvf.org
> >
> >Flounder is also providing the entertainment at The Osthoff with his
> >Big Band.
>========================
>
>Listers, if you click on the www.racelevf.org  Ron is driving the
>white Bugeye.
>
>I have it on good authority the picture was taken on a warm-up lap.
>
>Honest.  I'm sure of it.
>
>
>
>Peter C  ("White Trash" crew)
>
>Try to make the event. It is probably the most beautiful time of year
>in WI, at the most beautiful track un the US, and the cars are
>wonderful. It'll be special. Hope to see you there.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 12 12:03:20 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:03:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
	<48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>
	<2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>
Message-ID: <48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net>

If you are referring to me as an old fart, you are in BIG trouble!

Kate

Michael Rowe wrote:
> This has to be the only site anywhere in which a thread about wierd bolts 
> turns into a dating service for old farts.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY 
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 12 12:01:07 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:01:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
	<43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <091220081801.26973.48CAAE630007AA730000695D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tindog sings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUPCfIihQ4

  -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>:
--------------


> All,  (Rudy - could you repost to the Healey lists?)
>
> Since so many of us have friends or family in the impact area, I thought I
> would provide a meteorologists take on the situation with Hurricane Ike.
>
> First of all, as a comparison, Ike *may* be as strong as the fabled 1900
> Galveston Hurricane that took around 8,000 lives. This is a difficult
> comparison to make because in 1900 there was no warning for those poor
> people as the worst of the storm hit at night and we didn't have the
> satellites and ocean buoys we do today. Forensic evidence holds that this
> storm was a Category 4 (131-155mph sustained - 145-180mph gusts - Storm
> Surge 13-18 feet) when it made landfall. You can see the eerie similarity
to
> Ike's path and strength here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galveston_Hurricane_of_1900
>
> The current forecasts for Ike show the eye making landfall at around
> midnight CST tonight just southwest of Galveston and continue north
> northwest along a path just to the west of I-45 from Galveston to Houston.
> It is forecast to be very close in strength to the 1900 storm at that time.
> You can see the latest information on Ike storm at:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov
>
> Compare the two. They are almost identical.  The storm surge going up into
> Galveston Bay and the Houston ship channel is scary. Much will depend upon
> how well the Galveston seawall holds up. It wasn't there in 1900.
>
> If you are still in contact with anyone in the storm impact area, please
> urge them again to leave while there is still time to get out. I just
> got off the phone with Leo Speichinger in Baytown trying to convince him to
> get out...  Baytown will be hit very hard.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM,  wrote:
>
> > With all the news about Galveston Texas getting the brunt of the
Hurricane
> > Ike, I was just having some thoughts of our members there.  Having been
to
> > some
> > Texas Roundups in the past, I have seen many beautiful Healeys, both big
&
> > Bugeye.
> > Any word on our friends?
> > Rudy Streng
> > Lenoir, NC
> > BN4 & AN5

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 12 12:33:43 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:33:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <091220081801.26973.48CAAE630007AA730000695D22193100029B0A0
	2D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
	<43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<091220081801.26973.48CAAE630007AA730000695D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080912133311.03c3fdc8@nosimport.com>

At 01:01 PM 9/12/2008, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>  tindog sings:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUPCfIihQ4

Boy, I regret having seen that.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Sep 12 12:58:42 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:58:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080912133311.03c3fdc8@nosimport.com>
References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
	<43840a7e0809120849h61c87fa5ia9cec1a24bbd5c6e@mail.gmail.com>
	<091220081801.26973.48CAAE630007AA730000695D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080912133311.03c3fdc8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <001201c91509$953b9a10$bfb2ce30$@com>

Hey... there's nothing wrong with any Jimmy Webb song...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Peter C
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:34 PM
To: tinydog at snet.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?

At 01:01 PM 9/12/2008, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>  tindog sings:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIUPCfIihQ4

Boy, I regret having seen that.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 12 13:34:29 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:34:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
	<48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>
	<2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>
	<48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>

> If you are referring to me as an old fart, you are in BIG trouble!

I am assuming you are in my category, which is a compliment.  Besides,  it 
has been well-established in this thread that I am almost always wrong. 
(Does that make a double negative?)

Michael Rowe 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 12 14:09:59 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:09:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?
In-Reply-To: <409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl>
	<48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net>
	<2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>
	<48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net>
	<409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
Message-ID: <3D6A442A62864F119CB3A98463F30681@Home>

Today, someone describing a car for sale said that the paint below the gas 
cap is all bubbled from spilled gas.  I don't think the paint on the car is 
more than a few years old.  What kind of modern paint can't take spilled 
gas?  Perhaps it was constantly sloshing out of a leaky cap?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 12 14:13:18 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:13:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?
In-Reply-To: <3D6A442A62864F119CB3A98463F30681@Home>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl><48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net><2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home><48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net><409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
	<3D6A442A62864F119CB3A98463F30681@Home>
Message-ID: <A3CC973CF4A641ED8E73A18169BC30F9@spider>

More apt to be rust coming through from beneath. ...bill
========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 1:10 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?

Today, someone describing a car for sale said that the paint below the gas 
cap is all bubbled from spilled gas.  I don't think the paint on the car is 
more than a few years old.  What kind of modern paint can't take spilled 
gas?  Perhaps it was constantly sloshing out of a leaky cap?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 
_______________________________________________

From cmlove at knology.net  Fri Sep 12 14:21:23 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:21:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F404241BCBD18FF0F2F5B4CB8510@phx.gbl>
References: <C4EFF1B5.199E6%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<BAY112-F404241BCBD18FF0F2F5B4CB8510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001b01c91515$229ef8b0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>

 It has been reported here today in Florence, Alabama that some gas stations
have raised there prices by two dollars a gallon.  We need to have a good
ole neck tie party for some of these carpet baggers....


Charles M. "Monty" Love 
Dynetics, Inc. 
256-461-2780 
256-337-5581 (Cell)
256-882-1543 (Home)
ET Test 

The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They
happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Duquette
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...

Yes, we buy gasoline by the litre.

( Assuming that you were talking about the same gas that I was. )

----Original Message Follows----
From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>,<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:15:17 -0700

 > Gas went up 13 cents a litre here overnight.
You have metric gas?
You are subscribed as cmlove at knology.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Sep 12 14:23:13 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:23:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?
In-Reply-To: <A3CC973CF4A641ED8E73A18169BC30F9@spider>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl><48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net><2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home><48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net><409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
	<3D6A442A62864F119CB3A98463F30681@Home>
	<A3CC973CF4A641ED8E73A18169BC30F9@spider>
Message-ID: <000b01c91515$6489f8b0$2d9dea10$@com>

My brother painted his 68 Chebbie truck in Dupont Centari... sat with a full
tank in the sun, and gas overflowed out of cap and bubbled the paint (a
fairly long time after it was painted).

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:13 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?

More apt to be rust coming through from beneath. ...bill

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 12 14:37:33 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:37:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
References: <BAY112-F39E631FAFBB939C31B252EB8510@phx.gbl><48CA978D.9050700@frontiernet.net><2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home><48CAAEE8.9080804@frontiernet.net>
	<409BB71FE8AE4EB79CABB3043C60B359@Home>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1719523EF42761E67FAB83B8510@phx.gbl>

But ... are you correct when 'you' say that you are wrong.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: September 12, 2008 3:34 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?

> If you are referring to me as an old fart, you are in BIG trouble!

I am assuming you are in my category, which is a compliment.  Besides,  it 
has been well-established in this thread that I am almost always wrong. 
(Does that make a double negative?)

Michael Rowe 

From dmeadow at juno.com  Fri Sep 12 16:05:48 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (David Littlefield)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:05:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
Message-ID: <20080912.170549.2116.2.dmeadow@juno.com>

In Texas we have laws against price gouging, so the sheriff would be
leading the pack.

I can't get real sympathetic about complaints about the price of gas at
the moment, considering we're about 15 miles south of Houston and have
more at risk than some dollars on fuel.

We've got the house boarded up and all preparations that we can think of.
 We're about 45 miles inland, so wind is our biggest worry.  There are
quite a few more that are going to be flooded due to the enormous storm
surge, probably everyone that lives within about 30 miles of the coast!

David

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:21:23 -0500 "Monty Love" <cmlove at knology.net>
writes:
>  It has been reported here today in Florence, Alabama that some gas 
> stations
> have raised there prices by two dollars a gallon.  We need to have a 
> good
> ole neck tie party for some of these carpet baggers....
> 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 12 16:17:51 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:17:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas, Texas and Ike...
In-Reply-To: <20080912.170549.2116.2.dmeadow@juno.com>
References: <20080912.170549.2116.2.dmeadow@juno.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809121517v2d01906i3d36f9e15a25a0d6@mail.gmail.com>

Good luck, David...  Its a very nasty storm.  I have friends about 10 miles
south of Hobby Aprt who are holed up like you. I talked to Leo Speichinger
over in Baytown this morning. I hope he left but I don't know....

Good luck to everyone down there....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 5:05 PM, David Littlefield <dmeadow at juno.com> wrote:

> In Texas we have laws against price gouging, so the sheriff would be
> leading the pack.
>
> I can't get real sympathetic about complaints about the price of gas at
> the moment, considering we're about 15 miles south of Houston and have
> more at risk than some dollars on fuel.
>
> We've got the house boarded up and all preparations that we can think of.
>  We're about 45 miles inland, so wind is our biggest worry.  There are
> quite a few more that are going to be flooded due to the enormous storm
> surge, probably everyone that lives within about 30 miles of the coast!
>
> David
>
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:21:23 -0500 "Monty Love" <cmlove at knology.net>
> writes:
> >  It has been reported here today in Florence, Alabama that some gas
> > stations
> > have raised there prices by two dollars a gallon.  We need to have a
> > good
> > ole neck tie party for some of these carpet baggers....
> >
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 17:31:20 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:31:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Europa FS
Message-ID: <716210.1150.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

1969 Lotus Europa S2 for sale in local Rockford IL newspaper, $5500:

Lotus 1969 Europa S2 rare British mid engine. 2nd owner. call or email for info. $5500 or best. 540-239-9266 norsen1 at illinoisalumni.org

Picture in the printed ad looks nice, ad says 2nd owner. My last Lotus ownership experience is not quite old enough for the bad stuff to have completely evaporated or I'd be interested. Anyone out there seriously interested, though, and I would be thrilled to go look at it.

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 12 18:59:02 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:59:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Metric bolts?
In-Reply-To: <2B8D8C5EB30341838FD8CAAA634A0B44@Home>
Message-ID: <C4F05E66.19A0D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> the only site anywhere in which a thread about wierd bolts
> turns into a dating service for old farts.
A screw is a screw.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Sep 12 19:25:45 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:25:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?
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References: <c55.3621c2ab.35fbe12c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000001c9153f$a564f630$f02ee290$@net>

Not me, at least not yet.  Will post after tonight

Leo

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Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:14 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone flooded?

With all the news about Galveston Texas getting the brunt of the Hurricane 
Ike, I was just having some thoughts of our members there.  Having been to
some 
Texas Roundups in the past, I have seen many beautiful Healeys, both big & 
Bugeye.
Any word on our friends?
Rudy Streng
Lenoir, NC
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Sep 12 19:50:34 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:50:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Solenoid update
Message-ID: <012801c91543$1de7ea60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Well, I can use the new battery in my '73 Midget, when I finish the
restoration in the spring.  The old one may last another year in the
'72, if I'm good to it over the coming winter storage period.
The solenoid is OK, too.  However, with direct power from a fully
charged, brand new battery, the starter refuses to even draw current.
So, it's time to swap out the starter for one from my parts stash and
get back on the road.......Or, maybe it's time to check that the cable
from the solenoid to the starter is OK, first.
Bud Osbourne

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Sep 12 20:08:55 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:08:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea
Message-ID: <012901c91545$ad74a7c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

While I'm concerned about the residents of low lying areas in the path
of the storm, as well as for the lives and property of those on higher
ground, but who will still be on the receiving end of the wind and rain
from the storm; the ones who REALLY need our prayers are those 22
crewmen aboard the disabled bulker (freighter), 90 miles off shore.
With a cargo of petroleum coke (pretty low-density stuff), their ship's
center of gravity will be significantly higher than would be optimum in
such weather.  And, with no propulsion power, they'll have no way of
preventing their ship from lying broadside to the waves.  Talk about
terrifying......
One of the verses from Gordon Lightfoot's "The Wreck of the Edmund
Fitzgerald" sums it up perfectly: "Does anyone know where the love of
God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?"  At best, it's
gonna be a very long night for those guys.  May God show them his love.
Bud Osbourne

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 20:26:36 2008
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:26:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
Message-ID: <361894.623.qm@web56004.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Got the things off and on...Heck until you folks told me, I would never have
guessed I just needed to be a brute about it...with a screw driver they popped
off, in a flying motion. I put the new ones on, but they do not seem like they
went down as far as the others..I hit them with the handle of the screwdriver
and they are not falling off, so my guess is they will be ok...Thanks guys, I
can now drive in the rain.....and thanks to Ed, I will never have to deal with
the type of wipers I had..(non replaceble blades)...unless of course I buy
another car...:) and I am not even sure Ed could figure out where they came
from...
Heres a more difficult one.....Does anyone have a trick into getting a wife
not to complain about getting a new paint job....aside from painting her
car)....;)...I do not think it really needs it bad, but I do not like those
little chips and the two damn dimples the mechanic put in it when he failed to
lower the alternator enough....they polk out and not in...and they bug the
heck out of me....
 
John....

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Sep 12 20:34:15 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:34:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea
In-Reply-To: <012901c91545$ad74a7c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <012901c91545$ad74a7c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <48CAC437.3926.7D21C67@dmg.bossig.com>

Do modern ships or seamen have no way to fabricate a sea-anchor in an 
emergency??

On 12 Sep 2008 at 22:08, Bud Osbourne wrote:

>> And, with no propulsion power, they'll have no way of
>> preventing their ship from lying broadside to the waves.  


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From p.herder at cox.net  Fri Sep 12 20:37:22 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 21:37:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea
In-Reply-To: <48CAC437.3926.7D21C67@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <012901c91545$ad74a7c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<48CAC437.3926.7D21C67@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <008d01c91549$a6cd0620$f4671260$@herder@cox.net>

IAW MSNBC the ship survived the hurricane which has passed it.



-----Original Message-----
Do modern ships or seamen have no way to fabricate a sea-anchor in an 
emergency??

On 12 Sep 2008 at 22:08, Bud Osbourne wrote:

>> And, with no propulsion power, they'll have no way of
>> preventing their ship from lying broadside to the waves.  


--

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Sep 12 20:57:22 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:57:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea
In-Reply-To: <48CAC437.3926.7D21C67@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <012c01c9154c$7198b1e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

No.  Not for a ship as large as that.
Bud Osbourne

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From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dave G.
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:34 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea


Do modern ships or seamen have no way to fabricate a sea-anchor in an 
emergency??

On 12 Sep 2008 at 22:08, Bud Osbourne wrote:

>> And, with no propulsion power, they'll have no way of preventing 
>> their ship from lying broadside to the waves.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Sep 12 20:58:53 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:58:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea
In-Reply-To: <008d01c91549$a6cd0620$f4671260$@herder@cox.net>
Message-ID: <012d01c9154c$a8027180$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Thank God.  That must have been a wild ride!
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Paul Herder
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:37 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hurricane Ike.....those in peril on the sea


IAW MSNBC the ship survived the hurricane which has passed it.



-----Original Message-----
Do modern ships or seamen have no way to fabricate a sea-anchor in an 
emergency??

On 12 Sep 2008 at 22:08, Bud Osbourne wrote:

>> And, with no propulsion power, they'll have no way of preventing 
>> their ship from lying broadside to the waves.


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 20:54:39 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:54:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
In-Reply-To: <361894.623.qm@web56004.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <769710.70432.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/12/08, John Colclasure <bilbostuufff at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Heres a more difficult one.....Does anyone have a trick
> into getting a wife
> not to complain about getting a new paint job....aside from

New hardwood floors worked for an enclosed trailer. Granite counter tops work for a Longman head, JE forged pistons, and $1500 of machine work on the engine block.

Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 12 21:03:32 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:03:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
In-Reply-To: <769710.70432.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <769710.70432.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48CB2D84.40907@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
> --- On Fri, 9/12/08, John Colclasure <bilbostuufff at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> Heres a more difficult one.....Does anyone have a trick
>> into getting a wife
>> not to complain about getting a new paint job....aside from
>>     
>
> New hardwood floors worked for an enclosed trailer. Granite counter tops work for a Longman head, JE forged pistons, and $1500 of machine work on the engine block.
>
>
>   
I have it much easier.
She gets another cat, I get another Sprite.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 12 22:07:48 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:07:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
In-Reply-To: <769710.70432.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAENCDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Granite counter tops work for a Longman head, JE forged pistons, and $1500
of machine work on the engine block.>>

You should also add Ron, you have a SAINT for a wife<VBG>!!!!!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 21:17:08 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
In-Reply-To: <48CB2D84.40907@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <39358.43263.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> I have it much easier.
> She gets another cat, 

Nah, at least I get some use out of the counter tops.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 21:20:17 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers---Got it....
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAENCDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <127003.44539.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Fri, 9/12/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> You should also add Ron, you have a SAINT for a
> wife<VBG>!!!!!

On this list, I think we all do. When I had to jog home at 2 am on a test drive last year (my fix didn't work for long), wake her and get her to tow me home with the truck, she did take it to a pretty high level, though.

Ron

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 12 23:13:41 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?
In-Reply-To: <3D6A442A62864F119CB3A98463F30681@Home>
Message-ID: <594521.15821.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

In 1984 I bought an early-production first year Honda CRX - my first new car. 
Within a few weeks of getting the car, my wife dripped a little bit of
gas while filling the tank, which ran down the side and onto the plastic
bottom half of the car (remember these cars were all either red, white or
blue, and had a silver bottom half all the way around).  The silver paint
under the filler door bubbled up almost immediately. 
 
We went through a long, progressively uglier experience of multiple paint jobs
by the dealership bodyshop which never solved the situation.  I eventually got
so mad at them that I went to the lot one afternoon with a screw driver and
swapped my crappily painted panel for one on a new car in the lot... There's a
much longer and funnier version of the tale which I won't bore everybody with,
but the end result was that the new panel never bubbled. I don't know whether
we were more careful with the gas after that or the cars after the initially
imported batch were painted better.  Either way - I can testify that gasoline
can bubble some paint jobs. 

 - David
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Paint?
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 3:09 PM

Today, someone describing a car for sale said that the paint below the gas
cap is all bubbled from spilled gas.  I don't think the paint on the car is

more than a few years old.  What kind of modern paint can't take spilled
gas?  Perhaps it was constantly sloshing out of a leaky cap?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Fri Sep 12 23:51:15 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:51:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809122251l6fe69261w1cea5d5a7893e461@mail.gmail.com>

I need a big favor from someone, I need someone to measure the distance from
the "stop" to the top most line of "max" Mine measures 7  7/8"
Also, Does the dipstick tube raise the dipstick stop away from the pan? If
so how much does it stick out? one thing to add.. it looks like there was
a tube on my bug, but the top was broken off.

Right now I have a pan from Winners Circle, and I didnt have a dipstick, I
ordered one from moss motors. I dont have the dipstick tube and I dont want
to buy one, the dipstick hit the base of pan. I contacted them asking them
the capacity of the pan and asking if I needed a special dipstick.

Please help with as many measurements as possible! Thanks guys!

Racing NJ sept 19-20 with VRG

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 13 00:15:00 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:15:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809122251l6fe69261w1cea5d5a7893e461@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4F0A874.19A2C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I think you're supposed to change the plastic tube when you change the
filter. Some of the Mini places sell metal ones.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 13 08:31:11 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 09:31:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Prank
Message-ID: <A478AFE970A84ED9923C04E1F09353B9@Larry>

This is funny!

http://www.austin7.org:80/CA7Club/student%20prank.htm

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 11:38:08 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:38:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Bugeye $495.00 ebay 290260436317
Message-ID: <205cef430809131038x66a4b239gf4f6d77e08acf807@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Check out this 59 Bugeye for $495.00 on ebay 290260436317  he has a title.
Lin

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat Sep 13 11:41:52 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch Hose
Message-ID: <02D375F4C72848C69EA37D1B4217ECDC@Dell9200>

I am looking for the part number of the rubber clutch hose used with the 
Rivergate kit.  Does anybody know if the standard Datsun/Nissan hose for the 
80 210 will fit?

Mark 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Sep 13 14:18:02 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] MG TF LE500: The return of MG
In-Reply-To: <48CC05DE.50900@snet.net>
References: <48CC05DE.50900@snet.net>
Message-ID: <48CC1FFA.5040706@wi.net>

Mike Janacek wrote:
> Interesting read:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/09/13/mfmg113.xml
>
> Mike
> '79B
A quote from the article:  "instrument pack has been replaced with a new 
electronic unit sourced from *Magneti Marelli* in *China*."

VERY, very, scary! ;-)

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 13 15:11:35 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:11:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch Hose
In-Reply-To: <02D375F4C72848C69EA37D1B4217ECDC@Dell9200>
References: <02D375F4C72848C69EA37D1B4217ECDC@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W394CDC6328609DAAC8C93BCA500@phx.gbl>

Yes- that is what I used, the one that came in the 210
Bill

> From: mark at nashvilletn.org
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:41:52 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch Hose
>
> I am looking for the part number of the rubber clutch hose used with the
> Rivergate kit.  Does anybody know if the standard Datsun/Nissan hose for the
> 80 210 will fit?
>
> Mark
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sat Sep 13 15:52:55 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:52:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <C4F0A874.19A2C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809122251l6fe69261w1cea5d5a7893e461@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4F0A874.19A2C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809131452y15c3fd8ocf679cd8de6a52cb@mail.gmail.com>

Could someone please take a measuement from the block to the top of the
dipstick tube and from the point that the dipstick touches the tube to the
max point. Thank you! ps. I ordered a dipstick tube but it wont be here
until after my race, thats why i am asking for these 2 measurements

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I think you're supposed to change the plastic tube when you change the
> filter. Some of the Mini places sell metal ones.
>
>
>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sat Sep 13 16:23:28 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:23:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] calling gerard
Message-ID: <200809132223.m8DMNSZO000873@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>

Gerard, I lost your number, please give me a call.  Another fellow needs a
left front Minor fender and I don't remember if you needed both.

Glen Byrns

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 13 18:00:51 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:00:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809131452y15c3fd8ocf679cd8de6a52cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4F1A243.19A51%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You know how much it9s supposed to hold. Why don9t you just put in that
amount and see how far up the dipstick it comes.
Does anyone know why they had plastic tubes in the first place?

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Sep 13 18:12:52 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:12:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809131452y15c3fd8ocf679cd8de6a52cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080914001251.OQHM9482.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

On my 66 1098, the tube is about 1.25 inches, and the max point measurement
is about 7.75 inches.

Chris 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Matt Hagopian
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:53 PM
To: Billy Zoom
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil dipstick

Could someone please take a measuement from the block to the top of the
dipstick tube and from the point that the dipstick touches the tube to the
max point. Thank you! ps. I ordered a dipstick tube but it wont be here
until after my race, thats why i am asking for these 2 measurements

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I think you're supposed to change the plastic tube when you change the
> filter. Some of the Mini places sell metal ones.
>
>
>


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 18:28:35 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <C4F1A243.19A51%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <248373.84851.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> You know how much it9s supposed to hold. 

The Winner's Circle pan adds to the capacity by a quart or two. Winner's Circle should be able to tell you how much (maybe one of the racer Bob's?).

> Does anyone know why they had plastic tubes in the first
> place?

To freak many of us out the first time we dropped a Spridget oil pan and found half of it.

Ron

From cclabaw at juno.com  Sat Sep 13 18:27:47 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:27:47 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] MG TF LE500: The return of MG
Message-ID: <20080913.172747.20408.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

And "red painted ... brake calipers."  Nasty Commies getting their shillings
worth in.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
Mike Janacek wrote:
> Interesting read:
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/09/13/mfmg1
13.xml
>
> Mike
> '79B
A quote from the article:  "instrument pack has been replaced with a new
electronic unit sourced from *Magneti Marelli* in *China*."

VERY, very, scary! ;-)

Dave
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From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:30:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
Message-ID: <20080913.173003.20408.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

Dunno, but my '67 has a steel tube.

Clay L.


-- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
You know how much it9s supposed to hold. Why don9t you just put in that
amount and see how far up the dipstick it comes.
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep 13 18:45:45 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:45:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
References: <248373.84851.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8C9BA8ADD2BE4D6A9728A5F731809F05@personal>

"Does anyone know why they had plastic tubes in the first place?" CHEEP!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil dipstick


> --- On Sat, 9/13/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>> You know how much it9s supposed to hold.
>
> The Winner's Circle pan adds to the capacity by a quart or two. Winner's 
> Circle should be able to tell you how much (maybe one of the racer 
> Bob's?).
>
>> Does anyone know why they had plastic tubes in the first
>> place?
>
> To freak many of us out the first time we dropped a Spridget oil pan and 
> found half of it.
>
> Ron
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Sep 13 18:47:04 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  Survey time..


  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?

  1098s       Modified 1098?

  1275        Modified 1275?


  BIGGER?


  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..

  SURVEY?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  I think, therefore I am, I think 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 19:02:46 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:02:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <20080913.173003.20408.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080913.173003.20408.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809131802v47a64886r212fbe565badbdd4@mail.gmail.com>

My 68 does too, Clay.

Cheers!!
Jim


On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:30 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Dunno, but my '67 has a steel tube.
>
> Clay L.
>
>
> -- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> You know how much it9s supposed to hold. Why don9t you just put in that
> amount and see how far up the dipstick it comes.
> Does anyone know why they had plastic tubes in the first place?
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 13 19:05:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:05:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809131805t66c78535lea72d4c845d9ecba@mail.gmail.com>

Stock 1275 here, Bill.  Once you get this list compiled, I'd like to have it
for the Sprite - Midget Club if you don't mind.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  I think, therefore I am, I think
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 13 19:40:00 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:40:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <8C9BA8ADD2BE4D6A9728A5F731809F05@personal>
Message-ID: <C4F1B980.19A5E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  CHEEP!
Are you quoting a baby chicken, or did you mean cheap?

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep 13 20:16:31 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:16:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
References: <C4F1B980.19A5E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <7DCEF234C8334CFD828108398FF619EE@personal>

LOL, CHEAP for sure, cheep cheep.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>; "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>; 
"spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil dipstick


>>  CHEEP!
> Are you quoting a baby chicken, or did you mean cheap?
>
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep 13 20:17:13 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:17:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0809131805t66c78535lea72d4c845d9ecba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1035EE4A882455C8BBF6E5B3DD1DCF3@personal>

Modified 948
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?


> Stock 1275 here, Bill.  Once you get this list compiled, I'd like to have 
> it
> for the Sprite - Midget Club if you don't mind.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>  Survey time..
>>
>>
>>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>>
>>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>>
>>  1275        Modified 1275?
>>
>>
>>  BIGGER?
>>
>>
>>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>>
>>  SURVEY?
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>>
>>  I think, therefore I am, I think
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>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 13 20:27:35 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W6075C713539FD4A162F2C6CA530@phx.gbl>

Stock 1275 here
Billm

> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:47:04 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>   Survey time..
>
>
>   How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>   1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>   1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>   BIGGER?
>
>
>   I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>   knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>   1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>   GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>   SURVEY?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>   I think, therefore I am, I think
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 13 20:30:15 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:30:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye
Message-ID: <8338FCCE4DCD436CBFECBF953EA31F9B@HomeComputer>

Anyone recognize the front end on this bugeye?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-mark1-1961-austin-healey-bug-ey
e-sprite-conv-mark1_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6023QQihZ020QQitemZ3002569406
36QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Sep 13 20:37:48 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:37:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <013701c91612$e0435020$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Stock 1275.  Will be adding another stock 1275 to the list of 'runners',
in the spring.  Also, I have two early Midgets (MK I & MK 1 1/2) which
will probably receive and retain (respectively)1098s, possibly modified,
when I finish their restorations.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Bill L
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:47 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?


Hello Spridgets,

  Survey time..


  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?

  1098s       Modified 1098?

  1275        Modified 1275?


  BIGGER?


  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..

  SURVEY?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  I think, therefore I am, I think 
_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 13 20:33:19 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:33:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W6075C713539FD4A162F2C6CA530@phx.gbl>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<BLU107-W6075C713539FD4A162F2C6CA530@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W2009AC09330EF569B29DD7CA530@phx.gbl>

Does anyone need some good used shocks for their Spridget?
I bought a complete new set at the LOTO auction (from PeterC) and finally just
put them on.
As I removed my old ones I found that they weren't too bad but I changed them
anyway.
I owe Peter some cores but these are too good to be cores so if anyone wants
some that are full of oil and work fine (just aren't rebuilt) I'll send them
to you for the cost of shipping if you will send your old ones to Peter.

Billm

> From: billmasq at hotmail.com
> To: pythias at pacifier.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:27:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
>
> Stock 1275 here
> Billm
>
> > Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:47:04 -0700
> > From: pythias at pacifier.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
> >
> > Hello Spridgets,
> >
> >   Survey time..
> >
> >
> >   How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
> >
> >   1098s       Modified 1098?
> >
> >   1275        Modified 1275?
> >
> >
> >   BIGGER?
> >
> >
> >   I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
> >   knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
> >   1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
> >   GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
> >
> >   SURVEY?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> >
> >  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> >
> >   I think, therefore I am, I think
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 13 20:36:31 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8338FCCE4DCD436CBFECBF953EA31F9B@HomeComputer>
References: <8338FCCE4DCD436CBFECBF953EA31F9B@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <CC6B285C05BA4B8EB54A8A5E298E97AA@spider>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300256940636>
&item=300256940636

 

 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dean Swanson
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:30 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye

 

Anyone recognize the front end on this bugeye?

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Sep 13 20:59:44 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:59:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye
References: <8338FCCE4DCD436CBFECBF953EA31F9B@HomeComputer>
	<CC6B285C05BA4B8EB54A8A5E298E97AA@spider>
Message-ID: <B57472D223064D8192423528E3F9BB72@personal>

Supose he knows what that is.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300256940636>
> &item=300256940636
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
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> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:30 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye
>
>
>
> Anyone recognize the front end on this bugeye?
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat Sep 13 21:05:04 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:05:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <B57472D223064D8192423528E3F9BB72@personal>
References: <8338FCCE4DCD436CBFECBF953EA31F9B@HomeComputer>
	<CC6B285C05BA4B8EB54A8A5E298E97AA@spider>
	<B57472D223064D8192423528E3F9BB72@personal>
Message-ID: <000b01c91616$b119cf00$134d6d00$@com>

Ashley.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jack Laird
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:00 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye

Supose he knows what that is.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 21:19:34 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <248373.84851.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <651691.95507.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Winner's Circle pan adds to the capacity by a quart
> or two. Winner's Circle should be able to tell you how
> much (maybe one of the racer Bob's?).

Van Kirk, one of the racing Bobs, says the WC pan holds 6 quarts.

Ron

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 21:28:16 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:28:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've got a stock 1275.  But only because I've not gotten around to gathering
all the bits to build one yet.  Everyone knows it is a mortal sin to build a
stock engine, right?  I can only assume that Father Jack would have
trouble assigning enough hail Mary's to compensate for that one.  (I'm not
Catholic, so I actually know nothing about that kind of stuff other than what
you get from movies and TV)  Well, it's a mortal sin in my book anyway...
 
 - David

at, 9/13/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 7:47 PM

Hello Spridgets,

  Survey time..


  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?

  1098s       Modified 1098?

  1275        Modified 1275?


  BIGGER?


  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..

  SURVEY?

--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

  I think, therefore I am, I think
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Sep 13 21:44:22 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:44:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
In-Reply-To: <550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>

Hellod,

      So far i've had 16 replies

      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.

      ONE modified 948
      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
      ONE 1380

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis 

From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 13 22:37:53 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:37:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <559843.67778.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I have a stock 1275.  I understand that the early 1098's (10CG) throw rods because they have smaller mains.  The later 1098's (10CC) are improved and are great.  If you have the later 1098, I'd leave it.  I hear they rev very nice, even better than a 1275 in that aspect.  Also, keep the stock transmission setup, not worth the trouble and non-reversible destructive mods to the car.  The only real benefit is gaining a little more driveablility at freeway speeds.

Mike Rivers
1961 MG Midget 1275

From grday at btinternet.com  Sat Sep 13 22:52:01 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:52:01 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CB6BD055BDF94DE4B0E13EDE949BEE9B@TAIRS>

1275
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?


> Hello Spridgets,
> 
>  Survey time..
> 
> 
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
> 
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
> 
>  1275        Modified 1275?
> 
> 
>  BIGGER?
> 
> 
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
> 
>  SURVEY?
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> 
>  I think, therefore I am, I think 
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> 
> You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 13 22:57:05 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:57:05 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <29802424.1221368225389.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mike Carpenter

1960 Lotus Seven (souped up 1275)
1961 Lotus Seven series two America (very tweaked 948)
1961 Bugeye (1275)
1962 Sprite (948)



-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2008 8:47 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
>
>Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> 
>  I think, therefore I am, I think 


________________________________________
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Sep 13 23:23:12 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:23:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48CC9FC0.3030702@wi.net>

Stock 948 (9C-U-H 17604) in AN5L/17606

I would like to see the survey results also.

Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI


Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>   Survey time..
>
>   How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>   1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>   1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>   BIGGER?
>
>   I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>   knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>   1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>   GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>   SURVEY?

From nory1 at adelphia.net  Sat Sep 13 23:50:22 2008
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:50:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Updates...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFD93389-98EE-4346-802B-85BCFB14361F@adelphia.net>

I'm buying Father Jack's old Midget --- Does that count?

-Nory


On Sep 11, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

>
>
> I also updated and alphabetized the list of donors and helpers. 63  
> groups,
> businesses, organizations and individuals have helped to date!!   
> Thanks once
> again. It just goes to show that there is nothing wrong with this  
> old world
> that a little kindness and generosity can't fix!  Please check the  
> list and
> let me know of any mistakes or omissions.  I will need the list to be
> correct when we give it to Fr. Jack.
>
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/donors.html
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Sep 14 00:30:24 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:30:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809132330s15d60badn3f2dd565ca3667ca@mail.gmail.com>

1275 bored .040" over to a 1315cc, different cams, 13:1 pistons, winners
circle oil pan. I think im making between 100 and 130hp maybe more. and I
can tell you this... it is AWESOME really fast!

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  I think, therefore I am, I think
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com
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-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Sep 14 00:31:53 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:31:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger? Results
In-Reply-To: <793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809132331s58d6dad1u8a322b318321816@mail.gmail.com>

locked 3.9 and i have another rear end that is a locked 3.7, stock 4spd
tranny

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hellod,
>
>      So far i've had 16 replies
>
>      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
>      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.
>
>      ONE modified 948
>      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
>      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
>      ONE 1380
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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>



-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Sep 14 00:36:52 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:36:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
In-Reply-To: <20080914001251.OQHM9482.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <87a1f55d0809131452y15c3fd8ocf679cd8de6a52cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080914001251.OQHM9482.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809132336r29a2700cr65fa320c350534d9@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you chris! 6.5in total! Perfect! thank you!

For the others:
I have a 1275cc. I dont know the exact cap. I was told 5quarts but he wasnt
sure, I have a winners circle blue oil pan and I have an oilcooler.

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> On my 66 1098, the tube is about 1.25 inches, and the max point measurement
> is about 7.75 inches.
>
> Chris
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel <spridgets-bounces%2Bcmanuel>=wi.rr.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Matt Hagopian
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 4:53 PM
> To: Billy Zoom
> Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil dipstick
>
>  Could someone please take a measuement from the block to the top of the
> dipstick tube and from the point that the dipstick touches the tube to the
> max point. Thank you! ps. I ordered a dipstick tube but it wont be here
> until after my race, thats why i am asking for these 2 measurements
>
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I think you're supposed to change the plastic tube when you change the
> > filter. Some of the Mini places sell metal ones.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Matt Hagopian
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 06:17:47 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:17:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Updates...
In-Reply-To: <DFD93389-98EE-4346-802B-85BCFB14361F@adelphia.net>
References: <43840a7e0809111222n1d953caeh30d2d741fe603eb1@mail.gmail.com>
	<DFD93389-98EE-4346-802B-85BCFB14361F@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809140517l56da4a5ey97015ce3bf01df92@mail.gmail.com>

You bet, Nory!  I will put you on the list!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Nory <nory1 at adelphia.net> wrote:

> I'm buying Father Jack's old Midget --- Does that count?
>
> -Nory
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I also updated and alphabetized the list of donors and helpers. 63 groups,
>> businesses, organizations and individuals have helped to date!!  Thanks
>> once
>> again. It just goes to show that there is nothing wrong with this old
>> world
>> that a little kindness and generosity can't fix!  Please check the list
>> and
>> let me know of any mistakes or omissions.  I will need the list to be
>> correct when we give it to Fr. Jack.
>>
>> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/donors.html<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/Holy_Sprite/donors.html>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun Sep 14 07:22:28 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:22:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <559843.67778.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000201c9166c$f0097340$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Mike,
I read up on the early 1098s, which the factory recommended folks not
use for competition purposes.  According to David Vizard's book (Tuning
the A Series), the "small rod" 1098s are perfectly fine for additional
speed tuning, as long as you don't try to make more power at higher
revs.
Bottom line is: for normal, "spirited" driving, where you're not running
sustained high revs, or constant, full throttle settings, a "small rod"
1098 should be just fine.
Since my MK 1 1/2 Midget came to me with original everything, I will
probably stick with the original, "small rod" 1098, with minor upgrades
for improved low to mid-range grunt.
My MK 1 Midget, however, will end up with either a modified 2" journal
1098, or a modified 1275.  Right now, I'm leaning toward the 1098.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Mike Rivers
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:38 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?

I have a stock 1275.  I understand that the early 1098's (10CG) throw
rods because they have smaller mains.  The later 1098's (10CC) are
improved and are great.  If you have the later 1098, I'd leave it.  I
hear they rev very nice, even better than a 1275 in that aspect.  Also,
keep the stock transmission setup, not worth the trouble and
non-reversible destructive mods to the car.  The only real benefit is
gaining a little more driveablility at freeway speeds.

Mike Rivers
1961 MG Midget 1275
_______________________________________________

From lloydwho at msn.com  Sun Sep 14 07:18:08 2008
From: lloydwho at msn.com (Lloyd Brandt)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:18:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com><550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-DAV5A45193B770EA70DA80D1C7530@phx.gbl>

one 948 modified, smooth case tranny, 4:22 dif
one 1275 on the bench waiting for help
60 MkI bugeye

Lloyd B
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bill L<mailto:pythias at pacifier.com>
  To: spridgets at autox.team.net<mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger? Results


  Hellod,

        So far i've had 16 replies

        I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
        the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.

        ONE modified 948
        Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
        NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
        ONE 1380

  --
  Best regards,
   Bill L.
mailto:pythias at pacifier.com<mailto:pythias at pacifier.com>

   '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

    Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Sep 14 08:40:17 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:40:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <D88CDA97-F74B-495F-B6B6-5F02DC5811AF@comcast.net>

Supercharged 948

Lester


On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  I think, therefore I am, I think

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Sep 14 08:43:15 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
In-Reply-To: <793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8EA4B23D-9511-40A4-9F09-E5FB1B83DDDC@comcast.net>

Oh.. in that case, stock rear end for a '59 and a datsun 5 speed  
conversion

Lester


On Sep 13, 2008, at 10:44 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hellod,
>
>      So far i've had 16 replies
>
>      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
>      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.
>
>      ONE modified 948
>      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
>      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
>      ONE 1380
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

From healeymonster at fastwave.biz  Sun Sep 14 09:22:22 2008
From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:22:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <004001c9167d$af891710$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>

Hi, Bill,

Our "Horny Toad" (LHD 59 AN5) has a 1275, .40 over, street cam,
balanced, with headers, 3.9 rear and ribcage, and is a screamin' mimi
blast to drive.

"Lumpy" (RHD 60 AN5)on the other hand is a staid ol' country gentleman,
orig. 948 with oil pressure on the low side, H2 carbs, headers, smooth
case, 3.9 rear.  

The contrast between the two is amazing, and while I will probably
replace the 948 with a 1098 or 1275 (I have spares of both) one of these
days, I do not want a hot car in RHD, as I would probably be tempted to
pass more cars on the road, which is not recommended unless you have a
passenger leanin' out to see oncoming traffic <G>. 
 Am attaching pics, which will be stripped by the list.

Regards,
Ed Townley
Southern NM, USA 

On Sep 13, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

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From JMFarley50 at aol.com  Sun Sep 14 10:12:52 2008
From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:12:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <bdd.39239941.35fe9204@aol.com>

In my 61 bugeye I have a basically stock 1275, but bored + .030".  I  also 
have a ribcase tranny.  I am currently running a 4.22 rear, but have a  3.90 to 
be rebuilt and installed sometime.
 
John
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/13/2008 8:47:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

Hello  Spridgets,

Survey time..


How many of us run  948s?  Modified 948s?

1098s        Modified 1098?

1275        Modified  1275?


BIGGER?


I'm just curious. ... At a  dinner discussion with some very
knowledgeable people I was  speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
1275 and it was asked WHY?  and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
GREAT engine. (especially  for MY driving style?)....So ..

SURVEY?

-- 
Best  regards,
Bill L.                 mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

'66  Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

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From cclabaw at juno.com  Sun Sep 14 10:27:15 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:27:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <20080914.092715.7320.2@webmail11.dca.untd.com>

Kind of reminds me of Jags; 3.4s were fire breathers, 3.8s had more bottom,
4.2s were cream-puffs.

Clay L.


-- Mike Rivers <beatlemikey at yahoo.com> wrote:
I have a stock 1275.  I understand that the early 1098's (10CG) throw rods
because they have smaller mains.  The later 1098's (10CC) are improved and are
great.  If you have the later 1098, I'd leave it.  I hear they rev very nice,
even better than a 1275 in that aspect.  Also, keep the stock transmission
setup, not worth the trouble and non-reversible destructive mods to the car.
The only real benefit is gaining a little more driveablility at freeway
speeds.

Mike Rivers
1961 MG Midget 1275
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sun Sep 14 10:56:18 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <200809141656.m8EGuIdn020340@musca.ucdavis.edu>

1275, very modified

Glen Byrns

From leavcast at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 11:36:57 2008
From: leavcast at gmail.com (George)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:36:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <78047BA60AE54427A24A426392E82BE1@laptop>

Stock 948, rib tranny

59 AN5

George Castleberry
Flagstaff, AZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?


> Hello Spridgets,
> 
>  Survey time..
> 
> 
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
> 
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
> 
>  1275        Modified 1275?
> 
> 
>  BIGGER?

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sun Sep 14 11:49:57 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:49:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<78047BA60AE54427A24A426392E82BE1@laptop>
Message-ID: <2CB4CE9B764B434C98E6D3F29E6CDEC6@dell1>

Mild 948, smooth cage, 422 rear
stock 948, smooth case, 422 rear

Biff Jones
'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye
'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite
http://sprites2.homestead.com/

From p.herder at cox.net  Sun Sep 14 12:04:09 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:04:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <78047BA60AE54427A24A426392E82BE1@laptop>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<78047BA60AE54427A24A426392E82BE1@laptop>
Message-ID: <000c01c91694$49544480$dbfccd80$@herder@cox.net>

1098 in pieces to be rebuilt with a possible 1275 in the wings.
Ribcase with Datsun 5 speed in the wings.
4.22 stock FDR with a 3.9 in the wings.
66 Sprite in pieces waiting for me to recover from shoulder surgery (4th
surgery in just over a year) before I can restart the restoration.

Paul Herder
Sedgwick, KS


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?


> Hello Spridgets,
> 
>  Survey time..
> 
> 
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
> 
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
> 
>  1275        Modified 1275?
> 
> 
>  BIGGER?
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From davriker at nwi.net  Sun Sep 14 12:09:09 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:09:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com><550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <29A652F84E484E45A506B6DA1830C5E0@dave>

1275 .060 over, aluminum head, other mods.
datsun 5sp
3.73 rear end
1974 body
1969 vin plate


David Riker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger? Results


> Hellod,
> 
>      So far i've had 16 replies
> 
>      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
>      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.
> 
>      ONE modified 948
>      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
>      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
>      ONE 1380
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep 14 12:36:48 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:36:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com><550204.71170.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <021501c91698$d9ba11e0$4e947e4c@HP>

1959 (Bugiiis) with 1275 & 5 speed with lots of mods.

1959 (Bugzuki) with 1300cc Suzuki Twin Cam and 5 speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger? Results


> Hellod,
> 
>      So far i've had 16 replies
> 
>      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
>      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.
> 
>      ONE modified 948
>      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
>      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
>      ONE 1380
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
> 
>  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis 
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sun Sep 14 13:55:27 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:55:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <000c01c91694$49544480$dbfccd80$@herder@cox.net>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<78047BA60AE54427A24A426392E82BE1@laptop>
	<000c01c91694$49544480$dbfccd80$@herder@cox.net>
Message-ID: <48CD6C2F.9050804@verizon.net>

Mild 1275 with Rivergate 5 speed.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Sep 14 14:25:21 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:25:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hershey Pictures
Message-ID: <757F561B4ECC4394B1A2B14691E8B09C@midget>

Hey folks,
I seem to be a little short of pictures from the PA 50th event for the 2009 
Spridget Calendar. I have some from Alan, but does anyone else have any???
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Sep 14 16:29:01 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:29:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
Message-ID: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  
         46 Entries .. so FAR


         6- 948's  plus 3 modified

         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.

         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
            modified.

         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.


         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
         contains names as they appear in their emails. 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  There's too much blood in my caffeine system 

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Sep 14 17:34:35 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:34:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <73BE73CD-E0D3-4602-B13D-3C460352257D@phillymgclub.com>

Count me in?? I have a 1500 bored to 020 over with hi-comp pistons and  
a 276 cam. Ford Sierra 5 speed.

Does That count??

Larry

On Sep 14, 2008, at 6:29 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>
>         46 Entries .. so FAR
>
>
>         6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>
>         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>
>         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>            modified.
>
>         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
>
>
>         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
>         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
>         contains names as they appear in their emails.
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  There's too much blood in my caffeine system
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78 Midget

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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Sep 14 17:42:41 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:42:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <20080914234301.BDF781878A6@autox.team.net>

61 Bug-I, 948cc, smoothcase, 4.22, & drum brakes. AKA bone stock original
built on the 4th of July 1960.
		Crash

Hello Spridgets,

  
         46 Entries .. so FAR


         6- 948's  plus 3 modified

         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.

         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
            modified.

         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.


         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
         contains names as they appear in their emails. 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  There's too much blood in my caffeine system 

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 14 18:10:59 2008
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:10:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
In-Reply-To: <793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <301006.2456.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

948 .30 0ver. 12G 295 head 88G 229 cam LCB header 1 1/4" carbs, rib case box
and 4:55 rear 

Rick

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:44 PM

Hellod,

      So far i've had 16 replies

      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.

      ONE modified 948
      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
      ONE 1380

--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Sep 14 18:19:38 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <73BE73CD-E0D3-4602-B13D-3C460352257D@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <976156.56869.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

1275cc + ribcage

Stock..... for the moment...

'65 Sptire "Bitsa"

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 14 19:32:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:32:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <20080914234301.BDF781878A6@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEHBDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<61 Bug-I, 948cc, smoothcase, 4.22, & drum brakes. AKA bone stock original
built on the 4th of July 1960.>>

"She" 'should' be in Red, White & Blue then, Crash<G>!!

AND that would cover Her 'home' country AND Her 'adopted' one!!!!<VBG>

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Sep 14 18:41:45 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:41:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
Message-ID: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>

My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC.  I recently bought a 76 Midget that
runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust.  I broke most of the rules about
vehicle inspections when I showed up to see the car and it turned out to be
the car that I owned in high school and sold some 15 or so years ago.  I
recognized the car from 50 feet away, despite the new color, by the small
diameter wooden steering wheel and the roll bar (complete with scuffs from
my rollover during my earlier ownership).

 

So, there are many panels with rust and I know how to deal with them, but
the real problem is the driver's floorboard. Really, the problem is the lack
of floorboard. The area has enough rust to hold up a piece of sheet metal
and the carpet - if you are really careful getting in and out.  Of course
the area under the seat is perforated as well.  The passenger side is
rusting, but not scary yet.   There is also a 8 to 10 inch rust line which
is significantly perforated.  Oh, and the A pillar and sills are bubbling
and cracking around the front left jacking point.  One last thing, the rust
seems to be aggravated by seams that were painted together, and cavities in
sills, etc. filled with something that looks like Great Stuff canned
insulation.

 

This car will never be a show winner, but I want it to be reliable and safe.
How is the best way to fix this cheaply and with no prior welding knowledge?
I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic.  I can't hire out
the whole car, but I can hire a few panels if need be.  So what do I do?
Patch panels, plain old sheet steel, cut out sections from a donor, or swap
inner body intact from a donor?  If I change the tub, what are the titling
implications?  Help!

 

Thanks,

Andrew

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Sep 14 19:09:02 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:09:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call for Spridget 50th Photos
Message-ID: <AB4F9AAE1C254E7DB1CBB40F245ECCA7@midget>

Ok, last call. Trish is finally ready to start burning DVDs of the photos 
from the Missouri Spridget 50th. Are there any last minute pictures out 
there that you wanted included but haven't submitted yet? There is still 
time, but hurry up and get them to me. If you are going to snail-mail them 
to me please e-mail me and let me know you so I will know to wait. If I 
don't hear from you, I will start burning this week. Thanks much.
-- 
David Lieb and
Trish Finn 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Sep 14 19:18:05 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:18:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
Message-ID: <2dba01c916d0$e7cd9b70$116a010a@mail2world.com>

I had some friends help me with the welding on mine. I also had bought a
extra tub that was a bit less rusty than the car I was starting with.
 
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/sos1.html
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Andrew Payne [andrewpayne at intrex.net]
Sent: 9/14/2008 8:42:45 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget. 

My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC. I recently bought a 76 Midget
that 
runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust. I broke most of the rules about
vehicle inspections when I showed up to see the car and it turned out to
be 
the car that I owned in high school and sold some 15 or so years ago. I 
recognized the car from 50 feet away, despite the new color, by the
small 
diameter wooden steering wheel and the roll bar (complete with scuffs
from 
my rollover during my earlier ownership). 



So, there are many panels with rust and I know how to deal with them,
but 
the real problem is the driver's floorboard. Really, the problem is the
lack 
of floorboard. The area has enough rust to hold up a piece of sheet
metal 
and the carpet - if you are really careful getting in and out. Of course
the area under the seat is perforated as well. The passenger side is 
rusting, but not scary yet. There is also a 8 to 10 inch rust line which
is significantly perforated. Oh, and the A pillar and sills are bubbling
and cracking around the front left jacking point. One last thing, the
rust 
seems to be aggravated by seams that were painted together, and cavities
in 
sills, etc. filled with something that looks like Great Stuff canned 
insulation. 



This car will never be a show winner, but I want it to be reliable and
safe. 
How is the best way to fix this cheaply and with no prior welding
knowledge? 
I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic. I can't hire
out 
the whole car, but I can hire a few panels if need be. So what do I do? 
Patch panels, plain old sheet steel, cut out sections from a donor, or
swap 
inner body intact from a donor? If I change the tub, what are the
titling 
implications? Help! 



Thanks, 

Andrew 
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 14 19:22:45 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:22:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
In-Reply-To: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
References: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W17EFF210F310A3C498DC31CA520@phx.gbl>

Andrew
If I were in your shoes I would look at Craigslist along the west coast and
import a cheap body that has no rust.
It may cost a bit to ship it but I'll bet that the cost is nothing compared to
fixing yours.
Bill

> From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:41:45 -0400
> Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
>
> My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC.  I recently bought a 76 Midget that
> runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust.  I broke most of the rules about
> vehicle inspections when I showed up to see the car and it turned out to be
> the car that I owned in high school and sold some 15 or so years ago.  I
> recognized the car from 50 feet away, despite the new color, by the small
> diameter wooden steering wheel and the roll bar (complete with scuffs from
> my rollover during my earlier ownership).
>
>
>
> So, there are many panels with rust and I know how to deal with them, but
> the real problem is the driver's floorboard. Really, the problem is the
lack
> of floorboard. The area has enough rust to hold up a piece of sheet metal
> and the carpet - if you are really careful getting in and out.  Of course
> the area under the seat is perforated as well.  The passenger side is
> rusting, but not scary yet.   There is also a 8 to 10 inch rust line which
> is significantly perforated.  Oh, and the A pillar and sills are bubbling
> and cracking around the front left jacking point.  One last thing, the rust
> seems to be aggravated by seams that were painted together, and cavities in
> sills, etc. filled with something that looks like Great Stuff canned
> insulation.
>
>
>
> This car will never be a show winner, but I want it to be reliable and
safe.
> How is the best way to fix this cheaply and with no prior welding
knowledge?
> I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic.  I can't hire out
> the whole car, but I can hire a few panels if need be.  So what do I do?
> Patch panels, plain old sheet steel, cut out sections from a donor, or swap
> inner body intact from a donor?  If I change the tub, what are the titling
> implications?  Help!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 14 19:53:13 2008
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <533165.16017.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

1959 Bugeye AN5L 20712 BAE 20542, stock 948cc 9CUH 20079, smoothcase #29833,
4.22 rear end #21331-398, drum brakes.  Original matching numbers stock.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 20:08:23 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:08:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809141908u25534522jf90606259761a055@mail.gmail.com>

Stock 1275 in FROGGI.
Keep the sticky side down!
Herb

On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  Survey time..
>
>
>  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>  1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>  1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>  BIGGER?
>
>
>  I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>  knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>  SURVEY?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  I think, therefore I am, I think
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 20:11:55 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:11:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>

Bill,
I believe...at this point in time...Glen is the only one running a
supercharged engine.
His may be in your 'modified' category but on its own would seem fitting.
Herb

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>
>         46 Entries .. so FAR
>
>
>         6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>
>         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>
>         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>            modified.
>
>         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
>
>
>         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
>         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
>         contains names as they appear in their emails.
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  There's too much blood in my caffeine system
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Sep 14 20:15:05 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:15:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
	<2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0B1683E162E841C3BEC01DDD72592008@midget>

> I believe...at this point in time...Glen is the only one running a
> supercharged engine.
> His may be in your 'modified' category but on its own would seem fitting.

Well, Trevor had a supercharger on his Bugeye at LotO.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 14 20:30:52 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:30:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
In-Reply-To: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <C4F316EC.19ABA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Floors aren't hard once the car's upside down. A pillars require a bit of
finesse, especially for a novice welder. Sills are structural and need to be
solid. If the areas where the rear springs bolt on are solid, the rest is
doable. It takes time and patience, but you'll learn as you go. Welcome to
the club.
BZ

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 14 20:37:00 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:37:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W17EFF210F310A3C498DC31CA520@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4F3185C.19ABC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  look at Craigslist along the west coast and
> import a cheap body that has no rust.
I'm on the West Coast. My car is from the West Coast. It doesn't usually
help that much. Mine needed new floors, new rear fenders, new A-pillars, new
battery tray, and new B-pillars. Unless you're Frank and have God on your
side, nothing out here is cheap or rust-free. 

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep 14 20:40:58 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:40:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
	<2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c916dc$7ce9e7d0$4e947e4c@HP>

Glen's is actually turbo charged.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:


> Bill,
> I believe...at this point in time...Glen is the only one running a
> supercharged engine.
> His may be in your 'modified' category but on its own would seem fitting.
> Herb
> 
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>
>>         46 Entries .. so FAR
>>
>>
>>         6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>>
>>         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>>
>>         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>>            modified.
>>
>>         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
>>
>>
>>         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
>>         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
>>         contains names as they appear in their emails.
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>>
>>  There's too much blood in my caffeine system
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Sep 14 20:55:08 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:55:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <000c01c916dc$7ce9e7d0$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
	<2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>
	<000c01c916dc$7ce9e7d0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809141955u2ca0bf9dya46f426160b5ddd8@mail.gmail.com>

he wont be for very long... providing things run well, I might be adding an
Eaton supercharger to my 1315cc bug. I have a few downstairs just need the
manifold

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller
<millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> Glen's is actually turbo charged.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:11 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
>
>
> > Bill,
> > I believe...at this point in time...Glen is the only one running a
> > supercharged engine.
> > His may be in your 'modified' category but on its own would seem fitting.
> > Herb
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Spridgets,
> >>
> >>
> >>         46 Entries .. so FAR
> >>
> >>
> >>         6- 948's  plus 3 modified
> >>
> >>         8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
> >>
> >>         24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
> >>            modified.
> >>
> >>         2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
> >>
> >>
> >>         I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
> >>         but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
> >>         contains names as they appear in their emails.
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> >>
> >>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> >>
> >>  There's too much blood in my caffeine system
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Sep 14 22:19:14 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
	<2ad6c6b10809141911v1614b4e3pf94aac203a48f529@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <971BDC85-C065-44BB-9568-31A269B9A6D7@comcast.net>

umm.. mine's got a Judson.. well it's sort of a Supercharger...  ;-)

Lester


On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:11 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Bill,
> I believe...at this point in time...Glen is the only one running a
> supercharged engine.
> His may be in your 'modified' category but on its own would seem  
> fitting.
> Herb
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>
>>        46 Entries .. so FAR
>>
>>
>>        6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>>
>>        8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>>
>>        24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>>           modified.
>>
>>        2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
>>
>>
>>        I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
>>        but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
>>        contains names as they appear in their emails.
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>>
>> There's too much blood in my caffeine system

From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 15 01:27:21 2008
From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <420263.71157.qm@web110514.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

1312 cc very modified. Riverate trans, 4.22 rear
 
Roger Cotting



-----
Original Message ----
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:47:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?

Hello Spridgets,

  Survey
time..


  How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?

  1098s      Modified
1098?

  1275        Modified 1275?


  BIGGER?


  I'm just curious. ... At a
dinner discussion with some very
  knowledgeable people I was speculated about
moving from my 1098 to a
  1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out
the the 1098 is a
  GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
  SURVEY?

-- 
Best regards,
Bill L.                         
mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

'66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

  I
think, therefore I am, I think
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From bogodwin at bellsouth.net  Mon Sep 15 02:13:16 2008
From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:13:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?  Results
In-Reply-To: <793133255.20080913204422@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALIEGDEFAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>

I am running a 1275 and a 74 tranny in my bugeye.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Bill L
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:44 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger? Results

Hellod,

      So far i've had 16 replies

      I'm putting thme into a spread sheet with Name, engine, and if
      the information was included, Rear end ratio, and Transmission.

      ONE modified 948
      Five 1098's .. two of them slightly overbored.
      NINE 1275's    two of THEM modified.
      ONE 1380

--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 04:27:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
In-Reply-To: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
References: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <205cef430809150327i33732b21i8bbd240f51e5c1af@mail.gmail.com>

Wow Andrew,
You bought your old Midget that is amazing. I really like the Rollover Frame
idea best but if you can find a clean tub that would be better.

Chris I like your site and all the steps to the restoration and I really
like the Rollover Frame you posted from Gerards Garage. Do you have any
update shots of your white Midget, interior too? The Rollover Frame looks
easy to make and easy to store when not in use.

Linda
62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner



On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:

> My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC.  I recently bought a 76 Midget that
> runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust.  I broke most of the rules about
> vehicle inspections when I showed up to see the car and it turned out to be
> the car that I owned in high school and sold some 15 or so years ago.  I
> recognized the car from 50 feet away, despite the new color, by the small
> diameter wooden steering wheel and the roll bar (complete with scuffs from
> my rollover during my earlier ownership).
>
>
>
> So, there are many panels with rust and I know how to deal with them, but
> the real problem is the driver's floorboard. Really, the problem is the
> lack
> of floorboard. The area has enough rust to hold up a piece of sheet metal
> and the carpet - if you are really careful getting in and out.  Of course
> the area under the seat is perforated as well.  The passenger side is
> rusting, but not scary yet.   There is also a 8 to 10 inch rust line which
> is significantly perforated.  Oh, and the A pillar and sills are bubbling
> and cracking around the front left jacking point.  One last thing, the rust
> seems to be aggravated by seams that were painted together, and cavities in
> sills, etc. filled with something that looks like Great Stuff canned
> insulation.
>
>
>
> This car will never be a show winner, but I want it to be reliable and
> safe.
> How is the best way to fix this cheaply and with no prior welding
> knowledge?
> I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic.  I can't hire out
> the whole car, but I can hire a few panels if need be.  So what do I do?
> Patch panels, plain old sheet steel, cut out sections from a donor, or swap
> inner body intact from a donor?  If I change the tub, what are the titling
> implications?  Help!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
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From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Sep 15 06:50:44 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.
In-Reply-To: <9FF87F25ED0E4DAEADCDBE9EB203DBF7@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <010834130B5D4E87BD88A758013EF728@TRACY>

You might consider just getting a parts car from California and swapping the
whole tub out.  I just picked up a nearly rust free 76 for $350.  You see
anything newer than a 75 needs to be smogged so they are going cheap out
here in California.

Just a thought.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Andrew Payne
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:42 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76 Midget.

My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC.  I recently bought a 76 Midget that
runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust.  I broke most of the rules about
vehicle inspections when I showed up to see the car and it turned out to be
the car that I owned in high school and sold some 15 or so years ago.  I
recognized the car from 50 feet away, despite the new color, by the small
diameter wooden steering wheel and the roll bar (complete with scuffs from
my rollover during my earlier ownership).



So, there are many panels with rust and I know how to deal with them, but
the real problem is the driver's floorboard. Really, the problem is the lack
of floorboard. The area has enough rust to hold up a piece of sheet metal
and the carpet - if you are really careful getting in and out.  Of course
the area under the seat is perforated as well.  The passenger side is
rusting, but not scary yet.   There is also a 8 to 10 inch rust line which
is significantly perforated.  Oh, and the A pillar and sills are bubbling
and cracking around the front left jacking point.  One last thing, the rust
seems to be aggravated by seams that were painted together, and cavities in
sills, etc. filled with something that looks like Great Stuff canned
insulation.



This car will never be a show winner, but I want it to be reliable and safe.
How is the best way to fix this cheaply and with no prior welding knowledge?
I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic.  I can't hire out
the whole car, but I can hire a few panels if need be.  So what do I do?
Patch panels, plain old sheet steel, cut out sections from a donor, or swap
inner body intact from a donor?  If I change the tub, what are the titling
implications?  Help!



Thanks,

Andrew
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From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Sep 15 07:01:11 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:01:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires for a Midget
Message-ID: <EB0AB3E5D4CE43C4852CE1C21E6CC0F7@TRACY>

OK I blasted and painted the old Rostyles.  What size tires work best
without rub on a Midget?

 

 

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Sep 15 07:03:23 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:03:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I need a 13 inch Rostyle will trade for a Bugeye rim
Message-ID: <705FA90663494B1BA3EC612A5334D304@TRACY>

I need one 13 inch Rostyle rim for my daughter's Midget project.  I have a
solid Bugeye rim (with tabs for dog dish style AH hubcap) that I would trade
in whole or part.



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep 15 08:30:09 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:30:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rusty Tub
Message-ID: <093E68ACB2DB4D23845B2ED99A98732A@AndrewHP>

Wow!

 

You guys are great.  The general consensus seems to be to change the tub out
with a cleaner one.  I have leads on a few within two hours' drive, as well
as several from list members a bit farther flung.  The rust, while bad, is
localized, with trunk, engine compartments, and subframes relatively
untouched.  

 

I guess the next questions are about how you bring the two together.  I will
refer to a car as having a inner tub and outer shell.  The outer shell seems
a matter of matching panels and selecting the best ones.  The inner tub of
my car has all of the wiring, drivetrain, etc. Does one strip these out and
put it in the "new" tub and reassemble?  What years will work (not
necessarily correct.) with '76 components?  What are the title/VIN
implications?  Obviously, talk to DMV, but as a rule of thumb how do I
insure that my car can keep the same VIN as often parts cars become so due
to titles that are a wee bit murky?  

 

Cheers,

 

avoid the news today.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Sep 15 08:39:06 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:39:06 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <20080915.083906.25353.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

One 948- relatively stock-0.020" over('62), one unknown 948- feels stock
('58)


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From davriker at nwi.net  Mon Sep 15 09:09:44 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:09:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rusty Tub
References: <093E68ACB2DB4D23845B2ED99A98732A@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <FB5EB070685E4E15B81B110672C279FC@dave>

Changing the tub is easy.  Remove windshield, drill two rivets, lift vin 
plate, slide donor car under vin plate, attatch plate with new rivets. 
Remove vin plate from door jam, attatch matching vin plate.  Drive to DMV 
and register.  There is a frame number on the left side under the hood, it 
is usually so covered with grease that it will go un noticed.  You can find 
it and grind it off if you are worried about it.  Prime and paint, or spray 
over it with rubberized undercoating.

For a rust free tub, the desert area of California is prime.  California 
1976-1979 Midgets have to pass smog check on a rolling road test, and almost 
all fail miserably.  Once branded a "gross polluter" it is not unusual to 
see them for sale for less than a grand.  A quick trailer ride out of state, 
add a weber carb, and they are as good as new.

Transfer your roll bar and steering wheel for memories.

Dave


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Payne" <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Rusty Tub


> Wow!
>
>
>
> You guys are great.  The general consensus seems to be to change the tub 
> out
> with a cleaner one.  I have leads on a few within two hours' drive, as 
> well
> as several from list members a bit farther flung.  The rust, while bad, is
> localized, with trunk, engine compartments, and subframes relatively
> untouched.
>
>
>
> I guess the next questions are about how you bring the two together.  I 
> will
> refer to a car as having a inner tub and outer shell.  The outer shell 
> seems
> a matter of matching panels and selecting the best ones.  The inner tub of
> my car has all of the wiring, drivetrain, etc. Does one strip these out 
> and
> put it in the "new" tub and reassemble?  What years will work (not
> necessarily correct.) with '76 components?  What are the title/VIN
> implications?  Obviously, talk to DMV, but as a rule of thumb how do I
> insure that my car can keep the same VIN as often parts cars become so due
> to titles that are a wee bit murky?

From philip.s.jones at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 10:10:52 2008
From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:10:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
Message-ID: <091520081610.1716.48CE890C000AECD3000006B422007614389C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net>

Late to the party, but . . . . 

1275, modified; Datsun 5-spd; with one question (soon to follow).

From philip.s.jones at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 10:19:36 2008
From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:19:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel guage question
Message-ID: <091520081619.16455.48CE8B18000EA6830000404722007614389C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net>

Hi all!  Just took the garage queen out for a drive this weekend . . . ('71 Midget)

First thing first:  this car is ridiculous.  About 500 miles on a +20 1275 with APT (modified) head, intake and exhaust manifolds; 286 cam, balanced, blah blah blah.  To me, this car feels like like a little race car - it just gets up and goes!  Prtty much nothing below 3K - but 3K to 5.5K (about as high as I've taken it yet), it just feels like an itsy-bitsy drag racer.  Crazy.  Can't help but get my foot into it at pretty much every opportunity.  It also has Frontline suspension front and rear, which I am not enjoying nearly so much.

Second thing:  after driving it around for a bit, I noticed the fuel guage cycling from full to empty.  (tank was full at the time).  My first guess is that the voltage stabiliser is "sticky".  Any other guesses?  Is there a recommended tweak, or should I just dive in with a replacement?

Your (always helpful) comments and insight are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Phil

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Sep 15 10:44:48 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:44:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
In-Reply-To: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48CE9100.50206@smarc.net>

1275 + ribcase all stock

Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>   
>          46 Entries .. so FAR
>
>
>          6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>
>          8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>
>          24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>             modified.
>
>          2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.
>
>
>          I have put the spreadsheet together in Open Office formant
>          but can save it in Excel format for anyone who wants it. It
>          contains names as they appear in their emails. 
>   

-- 

Marc

From leavcast at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 10:59:05 2008
From: leavcast at gmail.com (George)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:59:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:
References: <231249671.20080914152901@pacifier.com> <48CE9100.50206@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <D021BD61838B4A25821F050B753BB700@laptop>

Stock 948 with rib tranny
59 AN5

George Castleberry
Flagstaff, AZ

----- Original Message ----- 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Survey SAYS:


> 1275 + ribcase all stock
> 
> Bill L wrote:
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>   
>>          46 Entries .. so FAR
>>
>>
>>          6- 948's  plus 3 modified
>>
>>          8 1098's  two of them slightly overbored.
>>
>>          24 1275's six of which of slightly modified plus two VERY
>>             modified.
>>
>>          2 BIG engines plus one 1300 Suzuki twin cam.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Sep 15 13:27:18 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
Message-ID: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

After a few difficult sessions on the Morris truck attempting to "spot" weld a
new driver's floor brace, I switched over to "plug" welding and suddenly I was
flying along.  Better welds, no duds, and finished in no time.

For the beginner welders out there like me, to spot weld with a mig rig, you
drill a hole through one piece and then fill the hole with weld and hope it
penetrates to the undrilled piece beneath.  With plug welding, drill (~3/16")
through BOTH pieces, back the hole with a small piece of brass or copper, THEN
fill the hole with weld.  What a difference in success.  All the good welders
on the list are saying "DUH!", but at least I'm learning. (And I got a
rock-solid floor brace!)

Glen Byrns

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 15 13:45:37 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:45:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires for a Midget
In-Reply-To: <EB0AB3E5D4CE43C4852CE1C21E6CC0F7@TRACY>
References: <EB0AB3E5D4CE43C4852CE1C21E6CC0F7@TRACY>
Message-ID: <48CEBB61.2020300@frontiernet.net>

Everyone has their own preference, but I use 185-70 HR 13 on my '72 
RWA.  If you have a  SWA, you will probably want to consider a different 
size.

Kate

Tracy Drummond wrote:
> OK I blasted and painted the old Rostyles.  What size tires work best
> without rub on a Midget?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 15 13:56:48 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:56:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
In-Reply-To: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <3C0055183D474990B4BC97308446CF85@spider>

I thought brass was porous and would explode when exposed to welding.
...bill
==========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Glen Byrns
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:27 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding

After a few difficult sessions on the Morris truck attempting to "spot" weld
a
new driver's floor brace, I switched over to "plug" welding and suddenly I
was
flying along.  Better welds, no duds, and finished in no time.

For the beginner welders out there like me, to spot weld with a mig rig, you
drill a hole through one piece and then fill the hole with weld and hope it
penetrates to the undrilled piece beneath.  With plug welding, drill
(~3/16")
through BOTH pieces, back the hole with a small piece of brass or copper,
THEN
fill the hole with weld.  What a difference in success.  All the good
welders
on the list are saying "DUH!", but at least I'm learning. (And I got a
rock-solid floor brace!)

Glen Byrns
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 13:58:53 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:58:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48CEBE7D.7070309@comcast.net>

58 Sprite   stock 1275,  5 speed, 4.22 diff
59 Sprite   beefed 1275, 5 speed. 4.22 diff
67 Sprite   stock 1275    4 speed  3.9 diff
59 Farina (A40) stock 1275, toyota 5 speed, 3.9 diff
Holy Sprite, stock 1098, 4 speed, 4.22 diff

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 14:22:29 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:22:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
Message-ID: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>

No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
Point Blank on the bare leg.
Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot, 
you know what I mean.
Bullet, nail, same thing.
My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the 
trigger and I shot a 2.5"
ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail 
into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice grips! 
I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with the 
spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping you 
knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys 
all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a 
couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the Holy 
Sprite work weekend.
I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look 
who shots who?

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Sep 15 14:56:09 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:56:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
Message-ID: <003c01c91775$7cb32ee0$76198ca0$@com>

Hey y'all,

 

I will be at Road America this weekend, but won't be racing as I'd planned.
My 89 yr old Mom is having cancer surgery Fri. AM in IL, so I'll be down
there for the day.

 

I will be at the track Sat. & Sun. Road & Track's Peter Egan is the Guest of
Honor for the 50th Sprite Anniversary festivities. He'll be driving Walter,
http://www.thicko.com/Walter.htm in the street course recreation run, and as
the special pace car for the Sprite race. The car will also be at the Cars
on the Green show at the Osthoff following the street course run. My 18
piece big band will be the entertainment at the car show.. this takes place
between 5-7pm prior to the dinner. Please come by and say hello.

 

WST

 

More info at .

 

http://www.vscda.org/

 

http://www.raceelvf.org/

From theshoe5 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 14:58:21 2008
From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3DC643558E824476987BD9ACE35AF36A@home>

Damn! Frank, just the description had my leg hurting. What leg was it? 
clutch or gas? Knowing you this won't slow you down on the Holy Sprite 
resto!
Alan


> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot,
> you know what I mean.
> Bullet, nail, same thing.
> My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the
> trigger and I shot a 2.5"
> ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail
> into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
> They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice grips!
> I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
> Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with the
> spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping you
> knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys
> all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a
> couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
> So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the Holy
> Sprite work weekend.
> I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
> And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look
> who shots who?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 15:13:21 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <48CEBE7D.7070309@comcast.net>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
	<48CEBE7D.7070309@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809151413g3e8c4a86nf6ac30b4f127ca76@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Frank...  I've got a spare diff in the garage that I think might be a
392...  If it is, do you want it for the Holy Sprite?

Hey..  It could be worse with the nail gun.  A buddy of mine nailed his hand
to a roof joist one Sunday evening while working alone on a garage project.
He was there for nearly 6 hours before we found him around midnight. He had
ridden over to the job on a remote country gravel road using his bicycle
which he parked behind the building. His wife drove past the garage 4 times
without seeing him nailed to the roof joist on the back of the garage!!  It
was also a 2.5 inch ring shank so he couldn't pull it through. We hadda cut
the joist and take it to the emergency room with him!

Or.....   It could've been your *middle leg*.......

If you need me to, I can rent a car at PHL....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> 58 Sprite   stock 1275,  5 speed, 4.22 diff
> 59 Sprite   beefed 1275, 5 speed. 4.22 diff
> 67 Sprite   stock 1275    4 speed  3.9 diff
> 59 Farina (A40) stock 1275, toyota 5 speed, 3.9 diff
> Holy Sprite, stock 1098, 4 speed, 4.22 diff
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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Cheers!!
Jim

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 15:26:50 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:26:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3022B9DF-D571-43EB-BFF0-FDAF8E536CB5@comcast.net>

Jeeze Frank!  Why don't you show your friend how much it "missed" by  
experimentation on his leg..  and send me a shot of the radiograph..   
need it to impress my sons.. good that it didn't hit anything vital!


Lester


On Sep 15, 2008, at 3:22 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been  
> shot,
> you know what I mean.
> Bullet, nail, same thing.
> My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the
> trigger and I shot a 2.5"
> ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail
> into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
> They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice  
> grips!
> I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
> Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with  
> the
> spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping  
> you
> knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys
> all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a
> couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
> So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the  
> Holy
> Sprite work weekend.
> I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
> And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look
> who shots who?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 15:39:38 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:39:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>

Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we could still
use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau for the
car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its way!  If
I could bless you all I would!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 15 17:15:37 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:15:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEAEDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Here IS Frank in all his (self-inflected) 'glory', folks<G>!!

http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Sep 15 16:55:14 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:55:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEAEDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <20080915225516.FHKZ24964.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Wild!

Glad all is OK.  

Did they let you keep it?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:16 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc

Here IS Frank in all his (self-inflected) 'glory', folks<G>!!

http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 15 17:03:17 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:03:17 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
Message-ID: <6759428.1221519797736.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

ok , so no one has said it yet?   frank , ya hit dat one right on da head!  
(you trying to catch up to my injury record?  hope not!)
we gotta compare scars some day...LOL!
get well and do not let it get infected!   that is one thing i know about!

chuck
new and improved in orwigsburg....   :)
(is this where larry walks in and yells "ouch"??)

-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Sent: Sep 15, 2008 4:22 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
>
>No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
>This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
>Point Blank on the bare leg.
>Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot, 
>you know what I mean.
>Bullet, nail, same thing.
>My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the 
>trigger and I shot a 2.5"
>ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail 
>into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
>They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice grips! 
>I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
>Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with the 
>spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping you 
>knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys 
>all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a 
>couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
>So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the Holy 
>Sprite work weekend.
>I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
>And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look 
>who shots who?

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep 15 17:22:00 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:22:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
In-Reply-To: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <FE072CDA48504DEB80CB194FED35A5BA@Home>

> For the beginner welders out there like me, to spot weld with a mig rig, 
> you
> drill a hole through one piece and then fill the hole with weld and hope 
> it
> penetrates to the undrilled piece beneath.

This is a plug weld.  Spot welds are made with no drilling.  There must be a 
different name for welding through two holes.  Anyone know?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 17:29:11 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:29:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1400.1221444914.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1400.1221444914.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48CEEFC7.8030806@comcast.net>

"Andrew Payne" wrote:
 > My name's Andrew Payne from Boone, NC.  I recently bought a 76 Midget
 > that runs pretty well, but has a lot of rust.
 >
 > I'm not scared of welding, but I do want to be realistic.

Call me a romantic, but I wouldn't use another tub because then
it wouldn't be "your" car.  There's something special about
re-acquiring a car you used to own.

Grassroots Motorsports had an article recently on how to replace
the sills on an MGB.  Unlike most everyone who tells you to cross
brace the interior and remove the doors, they left the doors in
place and jacked up one side at a time in two places (front and
rear).  You move the jacks fore and aft to adjust the gap around
the door, then weld in your patch panels. When you are done, the
doors fit perfectly.

The article made it seem easy, but then I haven't learned to
weld yet. :)

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From franks97 at verizon.net  Mon Sep 15 17:36:35 2008
From: franks97 at verizon.net (franks97 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:36:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SFR Fall Vintage Event at Infineon
Message-ID: <380-220089115233635941@M2W039.mail2web.com>

Close to 15 racers from the NW are headed to Infineon this weekend for the
San Francisco Region's Fall Vintage event. Five of us are Spridget racers.
Anyone from somewhere other than the West Coast attending? If my clutch
holds out I might run mid-pack in the small bore run group ;-)

They are having a special Mini grid and Huffaker and Peterson are entered.

Dave Franks
67 Sprite #82 Blue

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From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 15 17:39:30 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:39:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
References: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<FE072CDA48504DEB80CB194FED35A5BA@Home>
Message-ID: <006601c9178c$4d3810b0$4e947e4c@HP>

Michael, Glen is talking about a simulated "spot" weld. You cannot do a true 
spot weld with a Mig.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] plug welding


>> For the beginner welders out there like me, to spot weld with a mig rig,
>> you
>> drill a hole through one piece and then fill the hole with weld and hope
>> it
>> penetrates to the undrilled piece beneath.
>
> This is a plug weld.  Spot welds are made with no drilling.  There must be 
> a
> different name for welding through two holes.  Anyone know?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 15 17:39:54 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:39:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
In-Reply-To: <FE072CDA48504DEB80CB194FED35A5BA@Home>
References: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<FE072CDA48504DEB80CB194FED35A5BA@Home>
Message-ID: <C28261B382014E0BBC0FD3C3F4011A98@spider>

double fillet?
==========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:22 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] plug welding

 . . .

This is a plug weld.  Spot welds are made with no drilling.  There must be a

different name for welding through two holes.  Anyone know?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
_______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 15 17:49:05 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:49:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
Message-ID: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>

What is the current thought on Spridget tranny oil?

I don't have any car with a Spridget tranny so have not kept up with the 
current thinking.

Larry Miller

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 15 18:07:48 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:07:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
In-Reply-To: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <335076255.20080915170748@pacifier.com>

Hello Larry,

     I don't think it's changed a bit.  all the thinking i've ever
     heard for stock ribcase and smoothcase is to put in the same oil
     as in the engine. unless you put synthetic in the engine. good
     ole 20w50 Castrol in my case, .. except i have a DATSUN, so
     whatever Datsun said is what Paul A. put in. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  JJoohhnn,, wwhhaatt ddooeess AAlltt--EE ddoo?? 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 18:23:43 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:23:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
In-Reply-To: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809151723y691ff15fld3758172d8a04382@mail.gmail.com>

As far as I know use engine oil.  I'm using Castrol GTX 20 W 50.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> What is the current thought on Spridget tranny oil?
>
> I don't have any car with a Spridget tranny so have not kept up with the
> current thinking.
>
> Larry Miller
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 15 19:26:23 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:26:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEBBDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

cute......

http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Sep 15 18:30:51 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:30:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Oil Substitute
Message-ID: <d4c.2ea251d4.3600583b@aol.com>

Does anyone here have a good source for Castrol R (mineral based) oil, here  
in the States?
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 15 18:55:48 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:55:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Oil Substitute
In-Reply-To: <d4c.2ea251d4.3600583b@aol.com>
References: <d4c.2ea251d4.3600583b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1071308371.20080915175548@pacifier.com>

Hello Miniac7,

     The BEST substitute is to send your shocks off to Peter C. When
     they come back, they'll never leak again. Guaranteed for as long
     as HE lives! 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I hate Chablis," Tom whined. (*2)

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 19:00:18 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:00:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Mechanic vent
Message-ID: <091620080100.12129.48CF0522000D0F6C00002F612216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

So after multiple attempts to trace down my coolant pressurizing and coming out of the overflow bottle to no success:
radiator and heater coil removed and professionally cleaned
all hoses and pipes replaced
thermostat replaced and checked 
head gasket replaced
it was at this time i found out that the core plugs in the head had recesced about 1/16" into the head. I have been running water only since i keep pouring fluid out of the overflow after every warm day fun ride.

The car never overheated.

I told all this to an engine "specialist" that i took the car to.  I told him that the head needed to be removed and the plugs repaired.

what he did instead was: flush the cooling system "it was clean which suprised me" no kidding!! "but while i was doing this your points crapped out on me" really!! on the distributer Frank just rebuilt and had less than 25 rides on them?!! or was it the fact that you're an idiot? "so i got that fixed and your distributer came out in my hands when i touched it"  did you ever put it back in when you replaced the points?  "then when i started it back up your ignition coil started to smoke, turns out it was wired backwards"  you mean the one that I have been driving around with without any problems for a YEAR?!!!  "so some of the wires melted  but i fixed them"  WHAT you mean the fact that i can see melted wire insulation in a puddle where the positive and negative wires are stripped bare and half the wires are broken just before they dissapear into the rest of the wiring harness? those wires?

and the best "its a real pain when somebody brings a car in for overheating problems and I have to spend my time working on the electrical sysytem"  there NEVER WAS AN OVERHEATING PROBLEM YOU MORON and YOU CAUSED THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES!!!!
"oh and your bill is $571.82"
oh visa i would like to dispute a charge on my bill...

AARRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
must repeat do not take car to mechanic must do work myself
do not take car to mechanic must do work myself
do not take car to mechanic must do work myself
do not take car to mechanic must do work myself

From davegran at ticon.net  Mon Sep 15 19:00:19 2008
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
Message-ID: <48CF0523.2040100@ticon.net>

>            Michael Rowe
>
> > For the beginner welders out there like me, to spot weld with a mig 
> rig,
> > you
> > drill a hole through one piece and then fill the hole with weld and 
> hope
> > it
> > penetrates to the undrilled piece beneath.
>
> This is a plug weld.  Spot welds are made with no drilling.  There 
> must be a
> different name for welding through two holes.  Anyone know?
Actually, welding through a hole in one piece to a solid piece 
underneath is called a rosette weld.

-- 
Dave

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 15 19:01:25 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
In-Reply-To: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <629295.94076.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> What is the current thought on Spridget tranny oil?

The late great Eric Jones told me his warranty, which he amazingly extended to race cars, was only good if you used motor oil. He recommended non-detergent 30 or 40 weight, the cheap $1 a quart Wal Mart stuff. I never had one of Eric's gearboxes fail or even wear, and Lord knows I tried!

Ron

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 15 19:21:01 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:21:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
In-Reply-To: <629295.94076.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <007b01c9178d$a3acfae0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<629295.94076.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W3787A91FD14F6BF6B0AE7ACA4D0@phx.gbl>

I have always tried to use 30 wt non-detergent in my Spridget or Datsun
trannys. The foaming of the non-detergent oil (detergent is to STOP foaming)
is good for a non-pressure oiling system like a tranny.
Bill

> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:01:25 -0700
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; millerls at ado13.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
>
> --- On Mon, 9/15/08, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> > What is the current thought on Spridget tranny oil?
>
> The late great Eric Jones told me his warranty, which he amazingly extended
to race cars, was only good if you used motor oil. He recommended
non-detergent 30 or 40 weight, the cheap $1 a quart Wal Mart stuff. I never
had one of Eric's gearboxes fail or even wear, and Lord knows I tried!
>
> Ron
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 15 19:25:56 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:25:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <48CEEFC7.8030806@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C4F45934.19B1B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  There's something special about
> re-acquiring a car you used to own.
There's something REALLY special about a car with no rust.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 19:40:51 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:40:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5F96508D7565468B843B2FD88ECDE2F7@blackbox2>

Be thankful you didn't hit yourself in the head with it.
I seem to recall something like that happening in one of the Lethal Weapon movies.

This is more like Ace Ventura where he gets the two spears thrown into his legs 
and he's screaming "It's in the bone...It's in the bone!"

Take it easy and give yourself the time to heal.  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc


> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot, 
> you know what I mean.
> Bullet, nail, same thing.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 15 19:45:14 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:45:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Oil Substitute
References: <d4c.2ea251d4.3600583b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <F074E5E238A248DB8746FF741CF3B86F@blackbox2>

I redid my rear shocks about 3 years ago and used motorcycle shock oil.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Miniac7 at aol.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Oil Substitute


> Does anyone here have a good source for Castrol R (mineral based) oil, here  
> in the States?
> 
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 15 20:57:38 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:57:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
In-Reply-To: <629295.94076.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEBODKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Lord knows I tried!>>

It would seem that my witnessing your "attempts" last fall Ron,
you HAVE gotten quite BETTER and have no chance (except perhaps a seasons
worth<G>) of "one of Eric's gearboxes fail" making one do so<BG>!!!

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Sep 15 20:00:36 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:00:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EE13A3FE-4353-478B-B4D1-88227CFD4D83@phillymgclub.com>

BTW, what are you whining about?? It's only one nail!!

http://tinyurl.com/6fvgev

Larry

On Sep 15, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been  
> shot,
> you know what I mean.
> Bullet, nail, same thing.
> My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the
> trigger and I shot a 2.5"
> ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail
> into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
> They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice  
> grips!
> I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
> Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with  
> the
> spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping  
> you
> knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys
> all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a
> couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
> So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the  
> Holy
> Sprite work weekend.
> I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
> And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look
> who shots who?
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep 15 20:03:45 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:03:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
In-Reply-To: <006601c9178c$4d3810b0$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <389CF60444AE49BF9FA805BE22222897@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<FE072CDA48504DEB80CB194FED35A5BA@Home>
	<006601c9178c$4d3810b0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <78383B2881F24CA3A8405B402F847624@Home>

> Michael, Glen is talking about a simulated "spot" weld. You cannot do a 
> true spot weld with a Mig.

Actually, you can.  I have no experience whatever, but because of that, I 
read a lot when I got my machine, trying to learn on my own with not one to 
show me.  You can make spot welds with a MIG welder by holding it in one 
place at the "right" setting for the "right" length of time.  (That's why 
amateurs don't do it.) There is a special head for this that is shown in the 
Spridget restoration book.  I don't know if you can get that head for our 
cheapo machines.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 15 20:17:15 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:17:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
In-Reply-To: <78383B2881F24CA3A8405B402F847624@Home>
Message-ID: <C4F4653B.19B28%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> There is a special head for this that is shown in the
> Spridget restoration book.  I don't know if you can get that head for our
> cheapo machines.
I have one. They don't work. Have any of you tried that English gun looking
thing that holds a carbon rod?

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 15 20:29:27 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:29:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] plug welding
References: <C4F4653B.19B28%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <00c501c917a4$0b6bcf60$4e947e4c@HP>

I used it when I had a stick welder and it worked as long as there was no 
air gap between the two pieces.

Larry Miller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] plug welding


>> There is a special head for this that is shown in the
>> Spridget restoration book.  I don't know if you can get t 

From cmlove at knology.net  Mon Sep 15 20:38:52 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuild Lower Control Arms?
Message-ID: <1221532732.10595.7.camel@linux4monty>

Does anyone know of someone who can rebuild lower control arm for less
than the cost of new ones?

Does anyone have a used set that is in good shape they want to sell?

I just checked mine and the fulcrum pins are wobbling pretty badly.

Any help?

Thanks,

Monty Love
'73 in a 1000 parts...
Huntsville, Alabama

From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Sep 15 20:57:09 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:57:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9FADC124952C4C849A57A33D8B216165@HERBYZ>

I have a used Amco tonneau for a MKII that's in really good shape (all snaps
are good and no tears). It is white or maybe cream colored. Then again maybe
it's just dirty :) It also has the bulkhead snap "flaps". I have a black
Amco as well but it has some torn out snaps. They're still there just ripped
loose.

Let me know if you can use either one and I'll send it out.

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:40 PM
To: Spridgets List; Midget/Sprite; bugeye; Michael Osipik
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....

Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we could still
use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau for the
car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its way!  If
I could bless you all I would!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim
_______________________________________________

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Sep 15 21:54:50 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:54:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2CF057FB-A51A-45EB-855D-7BFCD202140C@mac.com>

Any chance of getting the travel pictures put in order and the  
duplicates removed?


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we  
> could still
> use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau  
> for the
> car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its  
> way!  If
> I could bless you all I would!
>
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 21:58:02 2008
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:58:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Testing email (No LBC)
Message-ID: <D85BA4AA-A2D1-4934-9ABE-C19415994145@gmail.com>

This is a test post.......

I've been having email problems lately and am trying to get it resolved.

Sorry for this post to the list but I need to see if the list will  
accept this email address.

Thanks,

Kevin V.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 15 22:07:54 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:07:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny Oil
Message-ID: <379944.13057.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/15/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> It would seem that my witnessing your "attempts"
> last fall Ron,
> you HAVE gotten quite BETTER and have no chance (except

After the race you watched, the outer spring tab things on the clutch cover went (AGAIN) in the feature race. I shifted without a clutch for 3 or 4 laps, then just left it in fourth and actually did surprisingly OK (nice torquey cam)! I gave Eric the box, which was 3 seasons old, to freshen last February. It may have been the last box he did. It came back to me 4 days later per usual with a bill for almost nothing, as it wasn't even damaged. It also had a hand written motto on it - "All Work Good Enough for Whozit's For".

Ron

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Sep 15 22:26:53 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:26:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48CF358D.2040504@wi.net>

Jeez Louise!!  You are one very lucky Gu****!  We are sincerely glad you 
will be OK.  Mind Charles and watch for infection.  Let Diane wait on 
you hand and leg although she probably has little sympathy ;-)

OK, here goes.  About the nail gun; made in China?  The nails, made in 
China?  There is a good possibility that for a while our beloved Frank 
was part Chinese!  I'm really happy we can joke about it. :-)

Rest and get well...workman's comp!

Dave & Terri
59 :{)
Burlington WI


Frank Clarici wrote:
> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot, 
> you know what I mean.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Sep 15 22:31:18 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:31:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
In-Reply-To: <003c01c91775$7cb32ee0$76198ca0$@com>
References: <003c01c91775$7cb32ee0$76198ca0$@com>
Message-ID: <48CF3696.7020109@wi.net>

Wm.,

Best of luck to your Mom, we'll be praying for her.
See you at ELVF.

Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI


Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> Hey y'all, 
>
> I will be at Road America this weekend, but won't be racing as I'd planned.
> My 89 yr old Mom is having cancer surgery Fri. AM in IL, so I'll be down
> there for the day. 
>
> I will be at the track Sat. & Sun. Road & Track's Peter Egan is the Guest of
> Honor for the 50th Sprite Anniversary festivities. He'll be driving Walter,
> http://www.thicko.com/Walter.htm in the street course recreation run, and as
> the special pace car for the Sprite race. The car will also be at the Cars
> on the Green show at the Osthoff following the street course run. My 18
> piece big band will be the entertainment at the car show.. this takes place
> between 5-7pm prior to the dinner. Please come by and say hello. 
>
> WST 
>
> More info at . 
>
> http://www.vscda.org/ 
>
> http://www.raceelvf.org/

From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Sep 15 22:53:56 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:53:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I need a 13 inch Rostyle will trade for a Bugeye rim
In-Reply-To: <705FA90663494B1BA3EC612A5334D304@TRACY>
Message-ID: <BADF14B8FC4146CEA1D30142F577CA8A@TRACY>

A number of folks on the east coast offered a set of rims.  I just need one.
I am in the SF Bay Area

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Tracy Drummond
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:03 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] I need a 13 inch Rostyle will trade for a Bugeye rim

I need one 13 inch Rostyle rim for my daughter's Midget project.  I have a
solid Bugeye rim (with tabs for dog dish style AH hubcap) that I would trade
in whole or part.



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 15 23:07:42 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:07:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Survey so far.. Ollie Ollie Ox in Free!
Message-ID: <385018639.20080915220742@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  10 948's plus 7 modified two of those with Judson's

  9 1098's two of those slightly overbored

  34 1275's +4 more heavily modified

  5 BIG Motors + 1 Suzuki 1300 twin cam!  for a total of 69 reported
  cars...

  Thanx to all who participated... anyone wanting the .ods file let me
  know.... again and again if necessary

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Alex Haley was adopted!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 23:22:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:22:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <2CF057FB-A51A-45EB-855D-7BFCD202140C@mac.com>
References: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
	<2CF057FB-A51A-45EB-855D-7BFCD202140C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809152222n2151fd87n817284200521435e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

The pictures are on a site set up by Larry Macy and he confesses having
trouble with some of them that seem to be reproducing on their own.  It
ain't easy to put them in order of occurrence!  As the project nears
completion and I get the scrap book together for Fr. Jack we'll find a place
where we can put them in sequence with narration for everyone to see. For
now though, we're stuck with what we have. In the end there will be well
over 400 pictures so this is somewhat of a daunting task!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

> Any chance of getting the travel pictures put in order and the
> duplicates removed?
>
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> > Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we
> > could still
> > use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau
> > for the
> > car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its
> > way!  If
> > I could bless you all I would!
> >
> > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html>
> > --
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Mon Sep 15 23:28:15 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:28:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Jersey
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809152228n25cfc23dracf366404f7831eb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey guys, Is anyone going to be at the VRG event in NJ this weekend? If you
are look me up, I will be in a pack of 3 cars, the 68 bug number 168, 63 Jag
XKE, and a 72 911
Let me know if anyone is going!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 23:59:08 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:59:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CF358D.2040504@wi.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net> <48CF358D.2040504@wi.net>
Message-ID: <48CF4B2C.2080508@gmail.com>

   The  Chinese  nails  I  have  been  getting can't go into wood without
   bending.  They might not make it into bone either.
   -g
   David Woerpel wrote:

Jeez Louise!!  You are one very lucky Gu****!  We are sincerely glad you
will be OK.  Mind Charles and watch for infection.  Let Diane wait on
you hand and leg although she probably has little sympathy ;-)

OK, here goes.  About the nail gun; made in China?  The nails, made in
China?  There is a good possibility that for a while our beloved Frank
was part Chinese!  I'm really happy we can joke about it. :-)

Rest and get well...workman's comp!

Dave & Terri
59 :{)
Burlington WI

Frank Clarici wrote:

No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
Point Blank on the bare leg.
Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot,
you know what I mean.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Sep 16 03:39:36 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:39:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <2CF057FB-A51A-45EB-855D-7BFCD202140C@mac.com>
References: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
	<2CF057FB-A51A-45EB-855D-7BFCD202140C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <824800EA-EB25-4DB0-A94E-0BB7B2AEBF2B@phillymgclub.com>

I'll work on that. Had tried, but they duplicated again. so I left it  
for a while. Prolly, I'll pull it and reload it.

Larry

On Sep 15, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Any chance of getting the travel pictures put in order and the
> duplicates removed?
>
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we
>> could still
>> use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau
>> for the
>> car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its
>> way!  If
>> I could bless you all I would!
>>
>> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
>> -- 
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
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>>
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 04:14:48 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:14:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
Message-ID: <205cef430809160314n32612a7fjae0ea78ef77ef935@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Does anyone have Jerry Coker's email address? I want to ask him some
questions about his original Sprite design without the headlights on top but
retractable. I hear the original design may have been like the Porsche 928
GT with the glass on top http://www.joe-ks.com/images/HIS928.jpg? I cannot
say I like the glass up design or not just yet because I have seen and
somewhere have the photo of a smooth Bugeye bonnet (the owner had lost the
headlights to an accident) with small headlights in the grill and the smooth
top looked cool and futuristic but clearly it is great to have her eyes open
: )

I think asking Jerry will put this to rest as I am hoping after my dad's
estate is settled and I am out of this new overwhelming debt to keep his
COOP afloat I will (with the help of manufactures) modify my Bugeye bonnet
to have that same design. I am hoping to get Jerry's blessing on this
project and if it works out without me loosing my shirt put it on a tub.
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 05:06:09 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:06:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C4F45934.19B1B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4F45934.19B1B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48CF9321.3020602@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
>>  There's something special about
>> re-acquiring a car you used to own.
> There's something REALLY special about a car with no rust.

Maybe, but they're a dime-a-dozen in California.  Here in NH,
even my fully-galvanized-body Audi has some rust.  Even the
pine trees along the highway are rust-colored; my guess is
they're dying from the salt.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 16 05:53:39 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Jersey
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809152228n25cfc23dracf366404f7831eb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809152228n25cfc23dracf366404f7831eb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CF9E43.4030001@lehigh.edu>

Matt,
I'll be at the SCCA races and hope to wander over to the vintage races 
sometime during the weekend.
John
Fogelsville, PA


Matt Hagopian wrote:
> Hey guys, Is anyone going to be at the VRG event in NJ this weekend? If you
> are look me up, I will be in a pack of 3 cars, the 68 bug number 168, 63 Jag
> XKE, and a 72 911
> Let me know if anyone is going!

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 06:21:50 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:21:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430809160521t381dec8aq570834aa8c1d2a17@mail.gmail.com>

Holy Cow Frank,
I am so sorry to hear about that. will the cap be alright? I have a brand
new walker if you think it will help getting around the garage. Got a cast
or just a brace?
Hang in there!
Linda

On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
> Let me tell you it hurts like all freaking hell. If you have been shot,
> you know what I mean.
> Bullet, nail, same thing.
> My knee hit the head of a nail gun while my finger was still on the
> trigger and I shot a 2.5"
> ring shank nail into my leg. The Xray is way cool! it shows the nail
> into the bone by a good inch before the nail bent.
> They cut me open and yanked the nail out with....what else? vice grips!
> I was sort of hoping for a cat's paw.
> Yeah. safety first but when a co worker hands you HIS nail gun with the
> spring out of the safety head, well, don't even think about bumping you
> knee while in shorts and on a ladder. You fly off the ladder, the guys
> all say the nail missed cause they can't see it embedded in your leg a
> couple inches but let me tell you it's there. You know it!
> So the stitches com out the day before Jim Johnson arrives for the Holy
> Sprite work weekend.
> I wonder if I will be able to drive by then?
> And I am the guy on the job always harping about nail gun safety. look
> who shots who?
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 16 06:26:09 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:26:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48CFA5E1.3050509@lehigh.edu>

Frank Clarici wrote:
> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
> Point Blank on the bare leg.
>
>   
Frank,
Sorry to hear about the accident! I hope you've got the pain under 
control. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

I have a joisey question. We'll be at NJMP in Millville this weekend, 
and I was warned about the sand fleas!!!  Any suggestions on how to best 
deal with that?  Boy I hope they're not as bad as those biting green 
head flies I ran into in Egg Harbor some years back.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Tue Sep 16 06:27:44 2008
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:27:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
Message-ID: <ce7.37f70437.36010040@aol.com>

Try:
_cokemar at aol.com_ (mailto:cokemar at aol.com) 
 
Rudy Streng
Lenoir, NC
BN4, AN5



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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 06:30:43 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:30:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <48CFA5E1.3050509@lehigh.edu>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net> <48CFA5E1.3050509@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <205cef430809160530l227eb82bl56b6aafdc2804829@mail.gmail.com>

John,
I'm in NJ near Sandy Hook I hear Listerine & water 50/50 will keep the nasty
biting flies off but I haven't tried it.
Linda
PS I hate biting flies/flees & rarely go to the beach because of them.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:26 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Frank Clarici wrote:
> > No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
> > This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun.
> > Point Blank on the bare leg.
> >
> >
> Frank,
> Sorry to hear about the accident! I hope you've got the pain under
> control. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
>
> I have a joisey question. We'll be at NJMP in Millville this weekend,
> and I was warned about the sand fleas!!!  Any suggestions on how to best
> deal with that?  Boy I hope they're not as bad as those biting green
> head flies I ran into in Egg Harbor some years back.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Sep 16 06:31:42 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:31:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
Message-ID: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>

Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or rebuilt units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient fix to reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but they're very spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R like we did back in the day, but evidently that product is hard, or impossible to come by these days.

What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street use?

Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than likely change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in this as a stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.
?
Thank you,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 16 06:43:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:43:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <48CF9321.3020602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36281AD27986717082261BB84D0@phx.gbl>

My garage is full of junk, because I can't bring myself to be the one who 
destroyed one of our precious little cars.  I have a titled bondo bucket ( 
always forget if it is a '64 or '66 ), a rust free titled '73 that was 
rear-ended ( needs RR fender and rear deck, among other things ). my titled 
RHD '65 ( 'The Sprite' ) that needs the bottom few inches replaced.  Add to 
that, my '67 MG driver that is deteriorating.  I have projects to keep me 
busy for awhile.

I missed picking up a '69 Midget last weekend that was "too rusty" by about 
2 hours.  I sent the email as he was hauling it to the recyclers where it 
was picked off his trailer; dropped in a truck; and hauled away to places 
unknown for meltdown.  I was thinking that I would have a surplus of parts 
if I got it and it was as rusty as he said ( he didn't go into details ), 
and I would be able to give them to those in need.  In reality, I would 
probably have ended up saying to myself that it could be fixed ... someday.

RD

----Original Message Follows----

Billy Zoom wrote:
 >>  There's something special about
 >> re-acquiring a car you used to own.
 > There's something REALLY special about a car with no rust.

Maybe, but they're a dime-a-dozen in California.  Here in NH,
even my fully-galvanized-body Audi has some rust.  Even the
pine trees along the highway are rust-colored; my guess is
they're dying from the salt.

--
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 16 06:45:48 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:45:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <48CF9321.3020602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3628A5AFEC28F9A9599CB6B84D0@phx.gbl>

Send me a dozen, would 'ya?  ;)

RD

----Original Message Follows----

Billy Zoom wrote:
 >>  There's something special about
 >> re-acquiring a car you used to own.
 > There's something REALLY special about a car with no rust.

Maybe, but they're a dime-a-dozen in California.
--
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 16 07:29:48 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:29:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809160530l227eb82bl56b6aafdc2804829@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48CEC405.5060901@comcast.net> <48CFA5E1.3050509@lehigh.edu>
	<205cef430809160530l227eb82bl56b6aafdc2804829@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48CFB4CC.9000509@lehigh.edu>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> John,
> I'm in NJ near Sandy Hook I hear Listerine & water 50/50 will keep the 
> nasty biting flies off but I haven't tried it.
> Linda
> PS I hate biting flies/flees & rarely go to the beach because of them.
Hi Linda,
Thanks for the tip. We usually camp at the track so there won't be 
anywhere to hide.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Sep 16 07:33:17 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:33:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Big motors
In-Reply-To: <385018639.20080915220742@pacifier.com>
References: <385018639.20080915220742@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <6A8B8B2D14B04F84B572C252E29ADB97@Home>

Big motor guys,
In my shopping for a BE, I have seen a couple of cars with 1400cc Datsun 210 
engines and transmissions, which they claim are licensed A-series engines 
that drop straight into a Spridget.  One guy claims to have a 1600 engine, 
also dropped in with few modifications.  Any experience with these out 
there?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island,  NY 

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep 16 07:44:53 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:44:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Big motors
In-Reply-To: <6A8B8B2D14B04F84B572C252E29ADB97@Home>
References: <385018639.20080915220742@pacifier.com>
	<6A8B8B2D14B04F84B572C252E29ADB97@Home>
Message-ID: <091620081344.27609.48CFB8550001B4D200006BD922230647029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog asked:

In a Spridget?

 -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: --------------


> Big motor guys,
> In my shopping for a BE, I have seen a couple of cars with 1400cc Datsun 210 
> engines and transmissions, which they claim are licensed A-series engines 
> that drop straight into a Spridget.  One guy claims to have a 1600 engine, 
> also dropped in with few modifications.  Any experience with these out 
> there?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 16 07:48:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:48:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Big motors
In-Reply-To: <091620081344.27609.48CFB8550001B4D200006BD922230647029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3769E62F38CE730397C80DB84D0@phx.gbl>

Wiki info is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_A_engine


----Original Message Follows----
From: tinydog at snet.net
tinydog asked:

In a Spridget?

  -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: 
--------------


 > Big motor guys,
 > In my shopping for a BE, I have seen a couple of cars with 1400cc Datsun 
210
 > engines and transmissions, which they claim are licensed A-series engines
 > that drop straight into a Spridget.  One guy claims to have a 1600 
engine,
 > also dropped in with few modifications.  Any experience with these out
 > there?

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 07:59:11 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:59:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <091620081359.4897.48CFBBAF00003B98000013212215568884020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:
> > Maybe, but they're a dime-a-dozen in California.
> --
> Kent McLean
> 
> Send me a dozen, would 'ya?  ;)

Will you take a check for $0.10?

--
Kent McLean
'59 100 BN2

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Sep 16 08:52:13 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:52:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080916093927.03b1b0d0@nosimport.com>

Howard,
         Use hydraulic oil. From a farm store  AWE100 will be 30W, 
though I STRONGLY recommend AWE68 equivalent  to 20W. Or use 
motorcycle fork oil in either weight. Don't exceed 30W.

         Peter C
==
At 07:31 AM 9/16/2008, miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
>Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or 
>rebuilt units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient 
>fix to reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but 
>they're very spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R 
>like we did back in the day, but evidently that product is hard, or 
>impossible to come by these days.
>
>What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street use?
>
>Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than 
>likely change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in 
>this as a stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.
>?
>Thank you,
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Sep 16 08:53:37 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
References: <205cef430809160314n32612a7fjae0ea78ef77ef935@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011501c9180c$00d6ef90$4e947e4c@HP>

Linda

There is a picture of an original prototype Bugeye at http://www.ado13.com

Larry Miller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:14 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email


> List,
> Does anyone have Jerry Coker's email address? I want to ask him some
> questions about his original Sprite design without the headlights on top 
> but
> retractable. I hear the original design may have been like the Porsche 928
> GT with the glass on top http://www.joe-ks.com/images/HIS928.jpg? I cannot
> say I like the glass up design or not just yet because I have seen and
> somewhere have the photo of a smooth Bugeye bonnet (the owner had lost the
> headlights to an accident) with small headlights in the grill and the 
> smooth
> top looked cool and futuristic but clearly it is great to have her eyes 
> open
> : )
>
> I think asking Jerry will put this to rest as I am hoping after my dad's
> estate is settled and I am out of this new overwhelming debt to keep his
> COOP afloat I will (with the help of manufactures) modify my Bugeye bonnet
> to have that same design. I am hoping to get Jerry's blessing on this
> project and if it works out without me loosing my shirt put it on a tub.
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"

From pelliott at innercite.com  Tue Sep 16 09:11:12 2008
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:11:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <9FADC124952C4C849A57A33D8B216165@HERBYZ>
References: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
	<9FADC124952C4C849A57A33D8B216165@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <012901c9180e$75dd3590$6197a0b0$@com>

Or.. I could buy the Tonneau from you and you could donate the proceeds to
the project...
I have a MKII.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Herby
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:57 PM
To: 'Jim Johnson'; 'Spridgets List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....

I have a used Amco tonneau for a MKII that's in really good shape (all snaps
are good and no tears). It is white or maybe cream colored. Then again maybe
it's just dirty :) It also has the bulkhead snap "flaps". I have a black
Amco as well but it has some torn out snaps. They're still there just ripped
loose.

Let me know if you can use either one and I'll send it out.

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:40 PM
To: Spridgets List; Midget/Sprite; bugeye; Michael Osipik
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....

Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we could still
use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau for the
car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its way!  If
I could bless you all I would!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 09:14:11 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:14:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
In-Reply-To: <012901c9180e$75dd3590$6197a0b0$@com>
References: <43840a7e0809151439n64a87eai57512689e32e8018@mail.gmail.com>
	<9FADC124952C4C849A57A33D8B216165@HERBYZ>
	<012901c9180e$75dd3590$6197a0b0$@com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809160814xd51034evedb7cc754974c83d@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,

I forwarded your email to Frank....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Patrick Elliott <pelliott at innercite.com>wrote:

> Or.. I could buy the Tonneau from you and you could donate the proceeds to
> the project...
> I have a MKII.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott <spridgets-bounces%2Bpelliott>=
> innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of Herby
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: 'Jim Johnson'; 'Spridgets List'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
>
> I have a used Amco tonneau for a MKII that's in really good shape (all
> snaps
> are good and no tears). It is white or maybe cream colored. Then again
> maybe
> it's just dirty :) It also has the bulkhead snap "flaps". I have a black
> Amco as well but it has some torn out snaps. They're still there just
> ripped
> loose.
>
> Let me know if you can use either one and I'll send it out.
>
> Herby
> 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
> 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
> 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
> herby at herbytoys.com
> www.herbytoys.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby <spridgets-bounces%2Bherby>=herbytoys.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Jim Johnson
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:40 PM
> To: Spridgets List; Midget/Sprite; bugeye; Michael Osipik
> Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pages Updated....
>
> Have updated the Holy Sprite Pages again...   Frank advises we could still
> use a few cash donations for interior trim and at least a tonneau for the
> car. It looks like everything else is now either in hand or on its way!  If
> I could bless you all I would!
>
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Sep 16 09:21:00 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:21:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hershey Pictures
In-Reply-To: <757F561B4ECC4394B1A2B14691E8B09C@midget>
References: <757F561B4ECC4394B1A2B14691E8B09C@midget>
Message-ID: <D48C84BC-4845-4DDE-BF0F-B4ADA57E0DC9@phillymgclub.com>

I have some from the autox I will send tonite.

Larry

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

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On Sep 14, 2008, at 4:25 PM, "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>  
wrote:

> Hey folks,
> I seem to be a little short of pictures from the PA 50th event for  
> the 2009
> Spridget Calendar. I have some from Alan, but does anyone else have  
> any???
> David Lieb
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Sep 16 09:38:42 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:38:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080916093927.03b1b0d0@nosimport.com>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080916093927.03b1b0d0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <8CAE6296EB5E160-BE8-99F@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>

Excellent information, Peter...thank you.


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
To: miniac7 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation


Howard,?
? Use hydraulic oil. From a farm store AWE100 will be 30W, though I STRONGLY recommend AWE68 equivalent to 20W. Or use motorcycle fork oil in either weight. Don't exceed 30W.?
?
? Peter C?
==?
At 07:31 AM 9/16/2008, miniac7 at aol.com wrote:?
>Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or >rebuilt units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient >fix to reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but >they're very spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R >like we did back in the day, but evidently that product is hard, or >impossible to come by these days.?
>?
>What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street use??
>?
>Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than >likely change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in >this as a stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.?
>??
>Thank you,?
>Howard Collins?
>Virginia Beach, VA.?
?

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 10:46:47 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:46:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges going bad ...
Message-ID: <3EDB816D-1040-4810-A2A4-729EF77FE7F5@comcast.net>

Ok, in the no-good-deed-goes-unpunished life I lead I have had the  
following happen in my '59 Bugeye running a 948:

Tach now will not drop to "0", it will only go down to 1500 revs

Temp went all the way up.  I have the heater valve open, I have hot  
hoses all the way around, thermostat replaced last year with 30 or  
less hours on it, and coolant level seems fine.

all of this happened I'm certain because I spent a few hours fixing  
little things on the car, getting the nose on straight, fixing the  
safety latch, putting the bumperette back on.. little things so this  
is my punishment.  I last drove the car about 2 weeks ago (We have had  
2 weeks of hurricaines) and I had none of these problems..

Any ideas, help, or consolation gladly accepted..

Lester

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 16 10:59:51 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:59:51 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges going bad ...
Message-ID: <7064982.1221584391127.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

be certain the darn fan belt is not too loose.  if it slips a bit they overheat.   do not rule out a bad thermostat.   they are rather uncomplicated and can fail out of the box.  rare but possible.  also in the wierd but true catagory , water pump impellor can fall off....i had 1 do this in my life!  
now stop fiddling with the darn car!  seeeeee what happens!   

chuck

-----Original Message-----
>From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2008 12:46 PM
>To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Spridgets] Gauges going bad ...
>
>Ok, in the no-good-deed-goes-unpunished life I lead I have had the  
>following happen in my '59 Bugeye running a 948:
>
>Tach now will not drop to "0", it will only go down to 1500 revs
>
>Temp went all the way up.  I have the heater valve open, I have hot  
>hoses all the way around, thermostat replaced last year with 30 or  
>less hours on it, and coolant level seems fine.
>
>all of this happened I'm certain because I spent a few hours fixing  
>little things on the car, getting the nose on straight, fixing the  
>safety latch, putting the bumperette back on.. little things so this  
>is my punishment.  I last drove the car about 2 weeks ago (We have had  
>2 weeks of hurricaines) and I had none of these problems..
>
>Any ideas, help, or consolation gladly accepted..
>
>Lester

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 16 11:10:04 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:10:04 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <19670404.1221585004956.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

sand fleas are nothing compared to how filthy dirty you will be by the end of day one!  spent one weekend there a few weeks back(second group to run there).  there is next to no vegitation growing to retain loose sandy dirt.  any competitor goes or a spectator drives to a fence to watch the race and it's a pretty nasty dust cloud!  also dust devils if it's windy!   the inside of my trailer is filthy.   i'm expecting to go to the lightning course to spectate on saturday.   i could course instruct on the thunderbolt course after the track time i had during the SVRA event driving the saab.  i feel the need to hear radial engines combined with vintage race cars this weekend.  ;)

chuck

-----Original Message-----
>From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2008 8:26 AM
>To: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Point Blank, no lbc
>
>Frank Clarici wrote:
>> No more jokes about Italians shooting knee caps with nail guns please.
>> This dumb Gu____ shot himself in his leg yesterday with a nail gun. 
>> Point Blank on the bare leg.
>>
>>   
>Frank,
>Sorry to hear about the accident! I hope you've got the pain under 
>control. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
>
>I have a joisey question. We'll be at NJMP in Millville this weekend, 
>and I was warned about the sand fleas!!!  Any suggestions on how to best 
>deal with that?  Boy I hope they're not as bad as those biting green 
>head flies I ran into in Egg Harbor some years back.
>John
>Fogelsville, PA

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 16 11:10:32 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <48CFE888.2080206@frontiernet.net>

I use motorcycle fork oil that I got at the local Honda dealership.

Kate
>
> What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street use?

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 16 11:42:30 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:42:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <19670404.1221585004956.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19670404.1221585004956.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48CFF006.4020807@lehigh.edu>

charles christ wrote:
> sand fleas are nothing compared to how filthy dirty you will be by the end of day one!  spent one weekend there a few weeks back(second group to run there).  there is next to no vegitation growing to retain loose sandy dirt.  any competitor goes or a spectator drives to a fence to watch the race and it's a pretty nasty dust cloud!  also dust devils if it's windy!   the inside of my trailer is filthy.   i'm expecting to go to the lightning course to spectate on saturday.   i could course instruct on the thunderbolt course after the track time i had during the SVRA event driving the saab.  i feel the need to hear radial engines combined with vintage race cars this weekend.  ;)
>   
Chuck,
Are you trying to talk me out of this trip? Fleas and filth. Do we have 
showers there yet?
John

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Sep 16 12:15:27 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:27 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Head light switch Bezel
Message-ID: <20080916.121527.2808.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

Help! (again please) I found where the light problem originates from, now I'm
trying to get the bezel off of the ignition switch. I can get the pin
depressed, but no motion from the bezel itself. I do have a repro, but this is
an original and I'd rather not bodge it in the process. I've tried wiggling
and wobbling while holding the pin depressed, but no love. Does anybody have a
trick or technique that worked for them? The BE did sit out (covered) for 20
yrs so I'm sure that has some bearing on the problem


Mark Haynes
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From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 16 12:20:24 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:20:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <24613338.1221589224416.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

showers at thunderbolt course not lightning coures...so far.   i did not notice any sand fleas during the SVRA event i ran a few weeks ago.  but a serious lack of vegitation is a huge annoyance due to the dust factor.   drivers meetings spoke of slowing down but not stopping for dust from other drivers going off course.   visibulity can be that bad at current state.   visibility is seriously hampered if a car goes off course.   we were pitted just over the bridge near the fuel pumps.  the course is fun.   but untill the complex gets better developed , the dirt / dust factor is quite unplesant.   if evryone keeps (spectators included) on asphalt , great!   eventually it will become rather nice.   harvey and brian call it a "work in progress".  you'll see what that means.   *wink*
aw heck , it's new.   i'm taking my gear in case i can bum so much as a few laps in a practice session on the other course this weekend.   

chuck.
sore from corner working last weekend at weatherly , but would drive this weekend if given a chance!  
BTW?   since when has bugs and dirt kept anyone from going racing??   *VBG*  c. 


-----Original Message-----
>From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2008 1:42 PM
>To: 
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
>
>charles christ wrote:
>> sand fleas are nothing compared to how filthy dirty you will be by the end of day one!  spent one weekend there a few weeks back(second group to run there).  there is next to no vegitation growing to retain loose sandy dirt.  any competitor goes or a spectator drives to a fence to watch the race and it's a pretty nasty dust cloud!  also dust devils if it's windy!   the inside of my trailer is filthy.   i'm expecting to go to the lightning course to spectate on saturday.   i could course instruct on the thunderbolt course after the track time i had during the SVRA event driving the saab.  i feel the need to hear radial engines combined with vintage race cars this weekend.  ;)
>>   
>Chuck,
>Are you trying to talk me out of this trip? Fleas and filth. Do we have 
>showers there yet?
>John

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 12:34:09 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:34:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809160314n32612a7fjae0ea78ef77ef935@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <935966.30720.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Linda,
 
I think a lady with her shirt off in a Pink sprite may draw some attention in
most any area.
 
Sorry - i could not help myself.
 
May be you adapt some head lights from the Lotis Elan. They lay flat where you
only see the tin. Then flip up when turned on. The hoods are much the same
size. Not sure about the shape.
 
Good luck - it sounds like a great project.
 
Vigil


--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:14 AM

List,
Does anyone have Jerry Coker's email address? I want to ask him some
questions about his original Sprite design without the headlights on top but
retractable. I hear the original design may have been like the Porsche 928
GT with the glass on top http://www.joe-ks.com/images/HIS928.jpg? I cannot
say I like the glass up design or not just yet because I have seen and
somewhere have the photo of a smooth Bugeye bonnet (the owner had lost the
headlights to an accident) with small headlights in the grill and the smooth
top looked cool and futuristic but clearly it is great to have her eyes open
: )

I think asking Jerry will put this to rest as I am hoping after my dad's
estate is settled and I am out of this new overwhelming debt to keep his
COOP afloat I will (with the help of manufactures) modify my Bugeye bonnet
to have that same design. I am hoping to get Jerry's blessing on this
project and if it works out without me loosing my shirt put it on a tub.
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 13:12:38 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head light switch Bezel
In-Reply-To: <20080916.121527.2808.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080916.121527.2808.0@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <48D00526.9090909@comcast.net>

Mark Haynes wrote:
> Help! (again please) I found where the light problem originates from, now I'm
> trying to get the bezel off of the ignition switch. 
>   

Some spray lube in the pin hole and if you can get it inside the back of 
the knob will help.
I'd say brute force works but only on the repro, not the original, it's 
just stuck. As long as that pin pushes in, it should come off.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep 16 13:56:19 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:56:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Howard,
The spongy feeling you mention may be caused by air in the shocks.  You
can put all the correct, new fluid in them you want, but, until you get
that air out of them, they'll remain "spongy".  The factory workshop
manual tells us to open the fill plug, and ad the correct oil while
working the shock lever up and down through it's entire range of travel
until the air is purged and the shock reservoir is full.  I've revived
more than a couple of reportedly "worn out" Armstrong shock absorbers
using this method.
Bud Osbourne 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
miniac7 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:32 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation

Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or rebuilt
units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient fix to
reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but they're very
spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R like we did back in
the day, but evidently that product is hard, or impossible to come by
these days.

What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street
use?

Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than likely
change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in this as a
stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.
?
Thank you,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Sep 16 13:51:38 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
	<004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080916145039.03ed4018@nosimport.com>

One has to wonder how the air got in, and where the fluid it 
displaced went.... no?

         Peter C
==
At 02:56 PM 9/16/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>Howard,
>The spongy feeling you mention may be caused by air in the shocks.  You
>can put all the correct, new fluid in them you want, but, until you get
>that air out of them, they'll remain "spongy".  The factory workshop
>manual tells us to open the fill plug, and ad the correct oil while
>working the shock lever up and down through it's entire range of travel
>until the air is purged and the shock reservoir is full.  I've revived
>more than a couple of reportedly "worn out" Armstrong shock absorbers
>using this method.
>Bud Osbourne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>miniac7 at aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:32 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;
>bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
>
>Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or rebuilt
>units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient fix to
>reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but they're very
>spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R like we did back in
>the day, but evidently that product is hard, or impossible to come by
>these days.
>
>What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street
>use?
>
>Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than likely
>change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in this as a
>stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.
>?
>Thank you,
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Tue Sep 16 14:01:00 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:01:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <E8CE4B127E8D47FC9719E32ADC67D152@AndrewHP>

I am still figuring out which messages come directly to me, and which come
to me in digest form only.

 

I suppose that I am trying to be realistic about this car, and it is
important to me that it remains largely "my car".  I also don't envision
this being my only classic, perhaps not my only Spridget.  I am more
inclined to weld extra supports and crossmembers in than to do a steering
wheel transplant as has been (very rationally) suggested.  If I bring a car
from CA, I'd probably just keep both cars. 

 

Kent, any idea of which issue of GRM had the welding article on the MGB?
Sounds like my kind of low tech solution. 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 14:05:49 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:05:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson
Message-ID: <948912.93107.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
 
I just got off the phone with Paul. He is still being held captive at the
local hospital. He was having a very good day today. ( his words) He had been
up and around a little and was getting ready for a nap. He said it will be a
few more weeks before they will release him to go home. His blood count has to
be correct first. Then it will be like the last time he had the treatment. He
will have recovery time at home before he will be able to get around again. I
figured his friends and customers would like to know where he is in his
treatments. 
 
Paul said to say HI to every one and thanks to those who were nice enough to
donate to the Paul A fund. 
 
I only talked to him for a short time as i did not want to wear him down. As
soon as he can get around to it he will send pictures of the 01 million car if
any one is interested in buying the car. I know several people who showed an
interest. It would be a great car to restore and to own.       
 
Cheers,
 
Vigil  

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Sep 16 14:22:15 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:22:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Morris] Paul Asgeirsson
In-Reply-To: <948912.93107.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <948912.93107.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BDFDC3B-4997-4CD3-9E0D-F638350375DD@gerardsgarage.com>

Great to hear!

Thanks for the update Vigil!

Gerard

On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:05 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:

>
>
>
> I just got off the phone with Paul. He is still being held captive  
> at the
> local hospital. He was having a very good day today. ( his words)  
> He had been
> up and around a little and was getting ready for a nap. He said it  
> will be a
> few more weeks before they will release him to go home. His blood  
> count has to
> be correct first. Then it will be like the last time he had the  
> treatment. He
> will have recovery time at home before he will be able to get  
> around again. I
> figured his friends and customers would like to know where he is in  
> his
> treatments.
>
> Paul said to say HI to every one and thanks to those who were nice  
> enough to
> donate to the Paul A fund.
>
> I only talked to him for a short time as i did not want to wear him  
> down. As
> soon as he can get around to it he will send pictures of the 01  
> million car if
> any one is interested in buying the car. I know several people who  
> showed an
> interest. It would be a great car to restore and to own.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Vigil
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Sep 16 14:48:32 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:48:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080916145039.03ed4018@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <005d01c9183d$9503dda0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Yes.  But, since Howard is looking for a short-term "fix", I'm sure he
can ad fluid, periodically, to keep the units from sucking air.  I've
done it, myself, many times in the past.  After all, the factory manuals
call for periodic checks of shock fluid levels, and I've seen perfectly
good shocks leak oil around the shaft seals.  As you know, if you let
the oil leak out, without replacing it; air will certainly enter the
chambers.
Please understand that I'm not advocating the perpetual use of worn
shocks.  I'm simply offering Howard some information to help him reach
his short-term goal.
Bud Osbourne


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 2:52 PM
To: Bud Osbourne; miniac7 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation

One has to wonder how the air got in, and where the fluid it 
displaced went.... no?

         Peter C
==
At 02:56 PM 9/16/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>Howard,
>The spongy feeling you mention may be caused by air in the shocks.  You
>can put all the correct, new fluid in them you want, but, until you get
>that air out of them, they'll remain "spongy".  The factory workshop
>manual tells us to open the fill plug, and ad the correct oil while
>working the shock lever up and down through it's entire range of travel
>until the air is purged and the shock reservoir is full.  I've revived
>more than a couple of reportedly "worn out" Armstrong shock absorbers
>using this method.
>Bud Osbourne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>miniac7 at aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:32 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;
>bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
>
>Aside from replacing the front shocks on my Bugeye with new or rebuilt
>units right now, I'm looking for a quick and cost efficient fix to
>reduce sponginess. These shocks show no sign of leaks, but they're very
>spongy.?I was going to fill them with 30wt Castrol R like we did back
in
>the day, but evidently that product is hard, or impossible to come by
>these days.
>
>What are others using as a heavier than normal shock fluid for street
>use?
>
>Next year I will be rebuilding the front end and will more than likely
>change the shocks at that time, so I am just interested in this as a
>stop-gap measure to hold me over until that time.
>?
>Thank you,
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep 16 14:55:10 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:55:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <E8CE4B127E8D47FC9719E32ADC67D152@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <091620082055.12778.48D01D2D000E6C2C000031EA22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

For some it's a hard concept to grasp, but the easiest and cheapest way to enter Spridget ownership is with a rust-free car from the West Coast. Shipping is cheap in comparison to solving the problems straightening-out a car that needs rockers, sills, and floors.

Plus having a car from California makes listening to Brian Wilson all the more enjoyable. A blonde in the passenger seat is even better. 

 -------------- Original message from "Andrew Payne" <andrewpayne at intrex.net>: --------------


> I am still figuring out which messages come directly to me, and which come
> to me in digest form only.
> 
>  
> 
> I suppose that I am trying to be realistic about this car, and it is
> important to me that it remains largely "my car".  I also don't envision
> this being my only classic, perhaps not my only Spridget.  I am more
> inclined to weld extra supports and crossmembers in than to do a steering
> wheel transplant as has been (very rationally) suggested.  If I bring a car
> from CA, I'd probably just keep both cars. 
> 
>  
> 
> Kent, any idea of which issue of GRM had the welding article on the MGB?
> Sounds like my kind of low tech solution. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep 16 15:25:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:25:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
References: <091620082055.12778.48D01D2D000E6C2C000031EA22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <47B8B9CB71BC41F5AE018FBD4A18A041@NilesAD.von.gov>

> For some it's a hard concept to grasp, but the easiest and cheapest way to 
> enter Spridget ownership is with a rust-free car from the West Coast. 
> Shipping is cheap in comparison to solving the problems straightening-out 
> a car that needs rockers, sills, and floors.
>
> Plus having a car from California makes listening to Brian Wilson all the 
> more enjoyable. A blonde in the passenger seat is even better.

Logically, you are probably correct. However, logically, who would own a 
Spridget?
Emotional involvement is necessary to keep things going when logic says it 
is better to throw the whole heap away and buy a Toyota.
There is a lot to be said for re-discovering an old friend that you wish you 
had never sold. T^alk to Chuck Christ about his darn Bugeye sometime...

> I am still figuring out which messages come directly to me, and which come
> to me in digest form only.

Andrew,
If we send our reply only to the List, you will only see it in the digest. 
If we hit reply to your message and leave your name in the "To:" field, it 
will go to you immediately AND to the digest eventually. Why subscribe to 
the digest? Go live and live dangerously ;-)
David Lieb 

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Sep 16 15:54:39 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:54:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] First Car Show
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4jrd91@email.mtu.edu>

I took my Sprite to its first car cruise last Friday night since 
getting it back on the road (last on the road in 1974). The "Cruise n 
Car Show" is sponsored by the Downtown Business Association to try 
and draw folks to the downtown area. The cruise was a short trip 
around town. The best part was the staging area where folks walked 
around looking at the cars. You guys were right. Little boys like 
Sprites. One excited little boy said he really liked the Sprite. His 
other favorite car was a Cobra. OK, if he says so.

Midland MI is only about 60 miles North of Flint so you can imagine 
that most of the cars were "Detroit Iron" of one sort or another. The 
Sprite was a bit of a novelty. And, the older guys comments were that 
they knew someone who owned one of those once. Just like you guys 
said. I guess I should never doubt ANYTHING you guys say. LOL The 
Saturday car show was a wash out thanks to the hurricane.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Tue Sep 16 16:17:14 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:17:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <47B8B9CB71BC41F5AE018FBD4A18A041@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <091620082055.12778.48D01D2D000E6C2C000031EA22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<47B8B9CB71BC41F5AE018FBD4A18A041@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <E75400ED67F6463AB99FBE07FA39FC92@AndrewHP>

Thank you David.  The workings of the list are much clearer.  I agree with
the (il)logical aspect of Midgets.  I have owned many practical cars, Miatas
and now a WRX. Plus, I already own the Midget, and the rust.  This is also a
more forgiving car to learn bodywork on than a '62 Austin Mini Cooper with
full race heritage.

> Plus having a car from California makes listening to Brian Wilson all the 
> more enjoyable. A blonde in the passenger seat is even better.

Well the east coast cars have rust
I really wish they weren't so bad
And the southern cars with the bullet holes
They make me scared to try to buy

The mid-west farmer's Midgets get trashed by tor-na-does
And the northern cars, all rot' from salt
They leave their drivers stranded at night

The west coast has the sunshine
And the cars all stay so dry
I dig some wire wheels on a Hawaiian island
Sprite by a palm tree in the sand.

I been all around this great big world
And I seen all kinds of cars
Yeah, but I couldn't wait to get back in the states
Back to the cutest car from other parts of the world

I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California
I wish they all could be California cars


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:26 PM
To: tinydog at snet.net; Andrew Payne; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76

> For some it's a hard concept to grasp, but the easiest and cheapest way to

> enter Spridget ownership is with a rust-free car from the West Coast. 
> Shipping is cheap in comparison to solving the problems straightening-out 
> a car that needs rockers, sills, and floors.
>
> Plus having a car from California makes listening to Brian Wilson all the 
> more enjoyable. A blonde in the passenger seat is even better.

Logically, you are probably correct. However, logically, who would own a 
Spridget?
Emotional involvement is necessary to keep things going when logic says it 
is better to throw the whole heap away and buy a Toyota.
There is a lot to be said for re-discovering an old friend that you wish you

had never sold. T^alk to Chuck Christ about his darn Bugeye sometime...

> I am still figuring out which messages come directly to me, and which come
> to me in digest form only.

Andrew,
If we send our reply only to the List, you will only see it in the digest. 
If we hit reply to your message and leave your name in the "To:" field, it 
will go to you immediately AND to the digest eventually. Why subscribe to 
the digest? Go live and live dangerously ;-)
David Lieb 

From gmajewski at wi.rr.com  Tue Sep 16 16:56:58 2008
From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:56:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] themostats
Message-ID: <6DA664C7-8E32-4D09-B061-54FBEBD60413@wi.rr.com>

Dear group,

      I am faced with the problem of trying to find a thermostat for  
my '59 Bugeye.
Have tried the usual sources such as Vict-Brit and Moss. All they send  
is the
domed thermostats and not the flat even though the one ordered says  
for my
machine. Who has the the correct one? Presently running and  
restricting sleeve
for cooling but would like to have something keep me warmer in the  
cooler
weather. As usual, thanks in advance


        Gary,   '59 Bugeye, 948 stock, 5 speed Datsun, 4.22

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 16 17:00:47 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] themostat
In-Reply-To: <6DA664C7-8E32-4D09-B061-54FBEBD60413@wi.rr.com>
References: <6DA664C7-8E32-4D09-B061-54FBEBD60413@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <81FC1FCD3F2A45E2BA048A6B534FE4F4@spider>

Might a standard generic thermostat work? Check NAPA? 

I don't run a thermostat in my 1969 Datsun 1300 engine. Like religion
though, a lot of people disagree.
...bill
======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of gary majewski
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:57 PM
To: spridgets spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] themostats

Dear group,

      I am faced with the problem of trying to find a thermostat for  
my '59 Bugeye.
Have tried the usual sources such as Vict-Brit and Moss. All they send  
is the
domed thermostats and not the flat even though the one ordered says  
for my
machine. Who has the the correct one? Presently running and  
restricting sleeve
for cooling but would like to have something keep me warmer in the  
cooler
weather. As usual, thanks in advance


        Gary,   '59 Bugeye, 948 stock, 5 speed Datsun, 4.22
_______________________________________________

From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Sep 16 17:32:29 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:32:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Water Pump Questions
Message-ID: <000001c91854$7cd62be0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

I just bought a new water pump for the modified 948 Spridget engine in my
Turner racecar.  It's an alloy body with stamped metal impeller by GMB,
Japan.

The angle of the blades on the impeller are very nearly at right angles to
the shaft, whereas the blades on the cast iron impellers of the old pumps I
have are at nearly a 45-degree angle.  I find it hard to believe that this
new pump will do anything but cavitate at race-speeds (3,000 to 6,000 rpms).

Have any of you with race or street Spridgets had any experience with this
brand pump?  Is it good or bad?  I ask because I need to grind away
clearance at the top for the thermostat housing section of the head.  Can't
return it after modified.  Has anyone modified the impeller in any way
(blade angle, spot-weld, etc.)?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner Mk.1
Florida, USA

From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Sep 16 18:21:10 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:21:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <20080916.172110.2249.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

To ...dog and all the rest of the 'wannaCaliforniaSpridget-eers'

When I bought my early '67 Mk IV Sprite, it looked like cowbirds had been
nesting in it for a long time (it was the DPO's daily driver).  It was love at
first sight.  I got the Heritage cert and found out that it was sold by
Manhattan Beach Sports Cars (part of L.A.'s coastline) which explained the
build-up of beach sand in it.  After the "new" wore off, I noticed that under
the sand, there wasn't much floor due to living near the ocean.  After reading
Holter, I also discovered that it has one high-light and one low-light front
fender.  Closer scrutiny indicates that neither of them are original.  The
hood (bonnet) is shorter than the right fender and longer than the left and
ends about a half-inch from the scuttle.  Both bumpers look like fettichini,
and the exhaust system seems to have come from Pep Boys via a high-desert meth
lab.  These are the good parts.

I won't go into the engine except to say that cleaned up, it goes like scat.

So, it's not all peaches and cream in the land of fruits and nuts.

Best regards,

Clay L.
'67 Sprite, and proud of it


-- tinydog at snet.net wrote:
tinydog sez:

For some it's a hard concept to grasp, but the easiest and cheapest way to
enter Spridget ownership is with a rust-free car from the West Coast. Shipping
is cheap in comparison to solving the problems straightening-out a car that
needs rockers, sills, and floors.

Plus having a car from California makes listening to Brian Wilson all the more
enjoyable. A blonde in the passenger seat is even better.

 -------------- Original message from "Andrew Payne" <andrewpayne at intrex.net>:
--------------


> I am still figuring out which messages come directly to me, and which come
> to me in digest form only.
>
>
>
> I suppose that I am trying to be realistic about this car, and it is
> important to me that it remains largely "my car".  I also don't envision
> this being my only classic, perhaps not my only Spridget.  I am more
> inclined to weld extra supports and crossmembers in than to do a steering
> wheel transplant as has been (very rationally) suggested.  If I bring a car
> from CA, I'd probably just keep both cars.
>
>
>
> Kent, any idea of which issue of GRM had the welding article on the MGB?
> Sounds like my kind of low tech solution.
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Sep 16 18:40:57 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:40:57 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
Message-ID: <be0.429f45bf.3601ac19@aol.com>

So that means the nut (approx,13mm) that sits atop and on the side of the  
shock is the filler hole? If so, that's how I remember MGB shocks being  
configured.
 
The reason for my question is; I just watched an MG Midget shock  absorber 
Tech Tip You Tube video off the ChicagoLand MG site. In that  video, the guy 
doing the hydraulic fill said in order to fill the shock with  fluid, it was 
first necessary to remove the top plate off the fluid  chamber, which is held on 
by a series of screws. I wasn't planning to go  thru all that, including 
replacement of the cover plate gasket, if I could  merely unscrew the fill plug. I 
guess he was working with some other make or  model shock, other than factory 
original ????
 
Someone please confirm all of the above for me.
 
By the way, the shocks I pulled out from the Bugeye had LARGE amounts of  
free travel before any resistance was found. I have a spare set of shocks  off a 
'73 Midget that I plan to use instead. They are firm throughout the entire  
length of arm travel, so I'm thinking they'll be a more suitable candidate in  
this case.
 
Thanks,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA. 



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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 19:15:46 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:15:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Water Pump Questions
In-Reply-To: <000001c91854$7cd62be0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <948109.98633.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:
> Turner racecar.  It's an alloy body with stamped metal
> impeller by GMB,
> Have any of you with race or street Spridgets had any
> experience with this
> brand pump?  

Yes. based upon a sample of 1, it's a piece of sh!t. It cavitated and ripped the blades right off at race speed WITH larger water pump impeller. The fan / pump guys at work could not believe it. I had no problems before or after with a cast iron impeller'd unit. I put the new pump in because I rebuilt the motor; I would not use a sheet metal unit again on a race motor. Street, it would probably be fine.

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 16 19:19:14 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:19:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <091620082055.12778.48D01D2D000E6C2C000031EA22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

What makes all of you think that I'm sitting in the middle of a bunch of
cheap, rust-free Sprites? It took me nearly two years to find any Sprite out
here, and it needed floors, both 1/4 panels, A pillars, B pillars, battery
tray, trunk floor, sills, firewall, etc.
And it wasn't cheap!  It was just the only one around.
As far as I know, almost all of the British cars in the US are in the
Mid-West or New England.
BZ

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 19:28:03 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:28:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1616.1221606054.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1616.1221606054.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48D05D23.90603@comcast.net>

Andrew Payne wrote:
> Kent, any idea of which issue of GRM had the welding article on the MGB?
> Sounds like my kind of low tech solution. 

Yes, and no.

I saved the article -- but it was from Classic Motorsports,
GRM's sister publication.  It was the September 2008 issue.
<http://classicmotorsports.net/issues/>

The author was Carl Heideman, who runs Eclectic Motorworks
<http://www.eclecticmotorworks.com/>

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 19:31:02 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <534421.96851.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> It took me nearly two years to
> find any Sprite out
> here, and it needed floors, both 1/4 panels, A pillars, B
> pillars, battery

And the rust-free quarter panels came from a parts car in the Midwest!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 19:34:05 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:34:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now $4500 - Re: Europa FS
Message-ID: <989651.17968.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The seller sent pictures, not a bad looking car (well, a Europa can't really look good, but it seems to be in good shape). He's dropped the price 
to $4500 OBO. I'm tempted. I can look at it after Elkhart Lake this weekend if anyone else is interested.


--- On Fri, 9/12/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Europa FS
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 6:31 PM
> 1969 Lotus Europa S2 for sale in local Rockford IL
> newspaper, $5500:
> 
> Lotus 1969 Europa S2 rare British mid engine. 2nd owner.
> call or email for info. $5500 or best. 540-239-9266
> norsen1 at illinoisalumni.org
> 
> Picture in the printed ad looks nice, ad says 2nd owner. My
> last Lotus ownership experience is not quite old enough for
> the bad stuff to have completely evaporated or I'd be
> interested. Anyone out there seriously interested, though,
> and I would be thrilled to go look at it.
> 
> Ron

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 16 19:34:53 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:34:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] themostats
In-Reply-To: <6DA664C7-8E32-4D09-B061-54FBEBD60413@wi.rr.com>
References: <6DA664C7-8E32-4D09-B061-54FBEBD60413@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W4895624EDE26B91F52ABF6CA4C0@phx.gbl>

The generic thermostat from any mid '60's Chevy V8 fits perfectly in an
A-block, Pep Boys or NAPA, etc.
Bill

> From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:56:58 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] themostats
>
> Dear group,
>
>       I am faced with the problem of trying to find a thermostat for
> my '59 Bugeye.
> Have tried the usual sources such as Vict-Brit and Moss. All they send
> is the
> domed thermostats and not the flat even though the one ordered says
> for my
> machine. Who has the the correct one? Presently running and
> restricting sleeve
> for cooling but would like to have something keep me warmer in the
> cooler
> weather. As usual, thanks in advance
>
>
>         Gary,   '59 Bugeye, 948 stock, 5 speed Datsun, 4.22
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 16 19:35:39 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:35:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] themostat
In-Reply-To: <81FC1FCD3F2A45E2BA048A6B534FE4F4@spider>
Message-ID: <C4F5ACFB.19BB7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I don't run a thermostat in my 1969 Datsun 1300 engine. Like religion
> though, a lot of people disagree.
> ...bill
Do you run a blocking plate?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 16 19:37:40 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:37:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Water Pump Questions
In-Reply-To: <000001c91854$7cd62be0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <C4F5AD74.19BB9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> new pump will do anything but cavitate at race-speeds (3,000 to 6,000 rpms)
>From what I've heard, the blades break off just before the onset of
cavitation.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Sep 16 19:47:32 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <200809170147.m8H1lW7h009835@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>

They're all up here.

Glen

> What makes all of you think that I'm sitting in the middle of a bunch of
> cheap, rust-free Sprites? It took me nearly two years to find any Sprite
> out
> here, and it needed floors, both 1/4 panels, A pillars, B pillars,
> battery
> tray, trunk floor, sills, firewall, etc.
> And it wasn't cheap!  It was just the only one around.
> As far as I know, almost all of the British cars in the US are in the
> Mid-West or New England.
> BZ

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 16 19:49:54 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:49:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>

You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental 
value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts 
that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I 
would do everything in my power to restore her.

If I remember my ancient history correctly, Two Gun Clarici knows how to 
make floor panels from sheet metal.  Installation is not that big a 
deal. I can even do it, and I have no nerves in most of my fingers.  
Sanding and some Ospho will take care of any surface rust, and what is 
underneath doesn't need to have a pretty repair, just functional. Any 
oopsies can be covered by 3M Undercoating, which will also protect the 
undercarriage until the normal covering of oil takes over..

Instead of recommending a steering wheel and VIN transplant, let's help 
the poor schmuck fix the car he has finally reconnected with.

Kate

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 16 20:26:37 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:26:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] themostat
In-Reply-To: <C4F5ACFB.19BB7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <81FC1FCD3F2A45E2BA048A6B534FE4F4@spider>
	<C4F5ACFB.19BB7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <13C8517C5F4541DD8630DAC807A5F1C3@spider>

No. 
==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:36 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] themostat

> I don't run a thermostat in my 1969 Datsun 1300 engine. Like religion
> though, a lot of people disagree.
> ...bill
Do you run a blocking plate?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Sep 16 20:27:36 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:27:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1984762506.20080916192736@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     Most surprising of all in this discussion of rotted floorpans is
     that no YET has mentioned stealing a STOP sign for the floor
     replacement piece. While I personally have ZERO skills in body or
     mechanical work, I DO remember where to obtain needed items...

     or is that a 55 mph sign that's the closest fit? as I recall the
     gauge thickness is perfect?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "Time flies," said Tom entomochronometrically.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 16 20:46:56 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:46:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <1984762506.20080916192736@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <C4F5BDB0.19BCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  that no YET has mentioned stealing a STOP sign
Our signs are aluminum.

From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Sep 16 20:50:28 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:50:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Water Pump Questions
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEKODKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <000001c91870$25a76160$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Ed:

I don't do VB unless there is absolutely nowhere else to get something.  I
stopped buying from them when I needed an extra-long header seal for my MGB.
The order-takers would not bother picking the longest one they had. (I
needed it for the back seal on the factory hardtop.)  Another company did &
they got my business.

I generally buy from Brit-Tek, a Moss dealer in New Hampshire, and have been
happily buying from him since about 1993.  This pump came from a local MG
repair shop that does some work on my LBCs.

This is a "correct" pump for a 948.  Just an impeller design of which I'm
suspicious.

Norm

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed's Shop [mailto:shop at justbrits.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:28 PM
To: twobees at sprynet.com
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] 948 Water Pump Questions


So Norm, bought it from V/B huh??<G>

My buddy still working said:

<quote>
I havn't seen a GMB pump lately, but they do some pumps.

Normally I would not recommend modifying a pump or block. I'd get the
correct pump.
</quote>

That 'means' non-Moss.<G>!

Ed

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Tue Sep 16 19:58:12 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:58:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Paul Asgeirsson
References: <948912.93107.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <29D750527A184BE791202393351554DF@DBKF4T81>

We spoke Sunday and IMHO he's sounding a lot stronger than he has for quite
some time. There for a while it apparently looked as if he might not have to
spend quite so much time (3+ weeks from what I understand) in the hospital but
I guess they are staying on the safe side. That's gotta be hugely boring but
it is nice to hear he's sounding good and making progress.



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
  To: Vigil
  Cc: Morris Motors ; Morris ; Sprite ; spridgets ; Midget/Sprite
  Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:05 PM
  Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Paul Asgeirsson




  I just got off the phone with Paul. He is still being held captive at the
local hospital. He was having a very good day today. ( his words) He had been
up and around a little and was getting ready for a nap. He said it will be a
few more weeks before they will release him to go home. His blood count has to
be correct first. Then it will be like the last time he had the treatment. He
will have recovery time at home before he will be able to get around again. I
figured his friends and customers would like to know where he is in his
treatments.

  Paul said to say HI to every one and thanks to those who were nice enough to
donate to the Paul A fund.

  I only talked to him for a short time as i did not want to wear him down. As
soon as he can get around to it he will send pictures of the 01 million car if
any one is interested in buying the car. I know several people who showed an
interest. It would be a great car to restore and to own.

  Cheers,

  Vigil

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep 16 21:14:01 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:14:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C4F5BDB0.19BCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4F5BDB0.19BCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48D075F9.4030305@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
>>  that no YET has mentioned stealing a STOP sign
>>     
> Our signs are aluminum.
>
>   
As are ours, and the No Parking at the Beach sign still has not rusted 
and it's still on my A40 ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Sep 16 21:25:44 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:25:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
References: <C4F45934.19B1B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48CF9321.3020602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <242F91DA5F2A41D19A34DFB42F1708C6@dave>

Here's one for $1000 if the listing is still good:

http://redding.craigslist.org/cto/816291718.html

Dave R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76


> Billy Zoom wrote:
>>>  There's something special about
>>> re-acquiring a car you used to own.
>> There's something REALLY special about a car with no rust.
> 
> Maybe, but they're a dime-a-dozen in California.  Here in NH,
> even my fully-galvanized-body Audi has some rust.  Even the
> pine trees along the highway are rust-colored; my guess is
> they're dying from the salt.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 16 21:32:45 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <242F91DA5F2A41D19A34DFB42F1708C6@dave>
Message-ID: <179300.11934.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/16/08, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:
> Here's one for $1000 if the listing is still good:
> http://redding.craigslist.org/cto/816291718.html

Here's one relatively local that may still be for sale:

ebay 270260507380 

Ron

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Sep 16 21:42:50 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:42:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>

My midget is kind of like grandpa's hammer.  One year the handle breaks, so 
he buys a new handle.  The next year,  the claw busts, so he replaces the 
head.  I say I've had my Midget since 1982, but at one time or another, 
every part has been replaced or swapped until there is nothing original 
except the vin plate.  Doesn't mean it isn't the same car to me.
Dave R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76


> You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental
> value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts
> that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I
> would do everything in my power to restore her.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Sep 16 22:18:18 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:18:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
	<1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
Message-ID: <127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>

Hello,

        the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
        no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
        point....

        When is a car considered restored?

        when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?

        the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?

        the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
        constitute a "restoration"?...

        or does a car have to be ALL original? ..

        Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
        points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?

        is there a consensus on this?



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  code code code code eat code code code sleep code code... 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 22:30:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
	<1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
	<127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809162130i7489030cgdf064490bae1277a@mail.gmail.com>

Geez, Bill!  Now you've gone and done it!  You've opened Pandora's box!  We
went through this routine on my antique motorcycle list 2 years ago and it
took MONTHS and thousands of emails to realize there are as many definitions
of "restored" as there are people doing "restorations"....  I'm stayin'
outta this one!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>        the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
>        no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
>        point....
>
>        When is a car considered restored?
>
>        when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?
>
>        the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?
>
>        the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
>        constitute a "restoration"?...
>
>        or does a car have to be ALL original? ..
>
>        Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
>        points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?
>
>        is there a consensus on this?
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>  code code code code eat code code code sleep code code...
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Cheers!!
Jim

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Sep 17 05:35:51 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:35:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <be0.429f45bf.3601ac19@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007801c918b9$8a54cf00$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Howard,
They sit on the side, front or rear, on Spridget applications.  The MGB
rear shocks have the filler plug on top, accessed through a
plastic-plugged hole in the chassis.  The factory manual says to fill
them through the fill hole accessed by removing that not-quite 13mm or
=-bolt/plug, and makes no mention of removing the top plate.
Peter C can enlighten us about how to not over-fill them (as well as
explain what happens when they are over-filled), but, you will be
surprised at how that free movement you mention disappears when the air
is bled out.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:41 PM
To: abcoz at hky.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation

So that means the nut (approx,13mm) that sits atop and on the side of
the shock is the filler hole? If so, that's how I remember MGB shocks
being configured.

The reason for my question is; I just watched an MG Midget shock
absorber Tech Tip You Tube video off the ChicagoLand MG site. In that
video, the guy doing the hydraulic fill said in order to fill the shock
with fluid, it was first necessary to remove the top plate off the fluid
chamber, which is held on by a series of screws. I wasn't planning to go
thru all that, including replacement of the cover plate gasket, if I
could merely unscrew the fill plug. I guess he was working with some
other make or model shock, other than factory original ????

Someone please confirm all of the above for me.

By the way, the shocks I pulled out from the Bugeye had LARGE amounts of
free travel before any resistance was found. I have a spare set of
shocks off a '73 Midget that I plan to use instead. They are firm
throughout the entire length of arm travel, so I'm thinking they'll be a
more suitable candidate in this case.

Thanks,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



.

From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep 17 05:41:12 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:41:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BF0242F97CBA4CF5873D696F1AB613DD@TRACY>

Bill,

I my opinion a restoration involves removing and disassembly of the entire
car down to the last nut and bolt.  This is what I have done on my
daughter's Midget.  I then media blasted every nut and bolt, mount, bracket,
hinge, rim and re-plated, epoxy self etch primed, painted, rebuilt or
otherwise restored back to original every part.  Now it is time to
reassemble.

There are varying degrees of restoration from sympathetic or partial to
full. Then there are concors restorations, rolling restorations, and
resto-mods.

Seems like a topic that could take up tons of digital bits and network
bandwidth to only come full circle to individual opinions.

I am sure there are some that feel a new paint job and carpet kit
constitutes a restoration (see ebay for many examples).  I am equally a
confident that many feel there is "only one right way" and it has to be
extreme and out of reach to the casual hobbyist (read medium income blokes)
without special tools, down flow paint booths, chroming jigs and full on
machine shops.

Rev rev  My 2 cents

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Bill L
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:18 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?

Hello,

        the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
        no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
        point....

        When is a car considered restored?

        when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?

        the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?

        the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
        constitute a "restoration"?...

        or does a car have to be ALL original? ..

        Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
        points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?

        is there a consensus on this?



--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

  code code code code eat code code code sleep code code...
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From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep 17 05:42:36 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:42:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809162130i7489030cgdf064490bae1277a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7CAD4AE1F7E14DDEBDAC5801DE581B6C@TRACY>

Jim I agree with your "do not feed this thread comment" but could not help
myself......see my other post.  I fed the monster.  wheeeeeee

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 9:30 PM
To: Bill L
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?

Geez, Bill!  Now you've gone and done it!  You've opened Pandora's box!  We
went through this routine on my antique motorcycle list 2 years ago and it
took MONTHS and thousands of emails to realize there are as many definitions
of "restored" as there are people doing "restorations"....  I'm stayin'
outta this one!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>        the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
>        no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
>        point....
>
>        When is a car considered restored?
>
>        when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?
>
>        the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?
>
>        the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
>        constitute a "restoration"?...
>
>        or does a car have to be ALL original? ..
>
>        Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
>        points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?
>
>        is there a consensus on this?
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>  code code code code eat code code code sleep code code...
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From tinydog at snet.net  Wed Sep 17 05:58:11 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:58:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net><1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
	<127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <091720081158.21302.48D0F0D30003E1DF0000533622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

Might be time for another spreadsheet.
 -------------- Original message from Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>: --------------


> Hello,
> 
>         the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
>         no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
>         point....
> 
>         When is a car considered restored?
> 
>         when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?
> 
>         the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?
> 
>         the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
>         constitute a "restoration"?...
> 
>         or does a car have to be ALL original? ..
> 
>         Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
>         points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?
> 
>         is there a consensus on this?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 06:53:25 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:53:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <091720081158.21302.48D0F0D30003E1DF0000533622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net><1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
	<127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
	<091720081158.21302.48D0F0D30003E1DF0000533622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <48D0FDC5.2010506@comcast.net>

Restored
Refreshed
Repainted
Repaired
and of course, replaced

The Holy Sprite will be Restored
my 59 was restored but will get repainted
my 1st Sprite, a 67 was "replaced" with a different 67 but I still 
"restored"  the different 67 last year.
New paint and an interior mean refreshed (but on Ebay that means 100% 
ground up restoration)
And since most of us reapair our cars monthly, you all know what that means.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep 17 07:06:22 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:06:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <48D0FDC5.2010506@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>

Frank,

What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".

There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.

How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:53 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?

Restored
Refreshed
Repainted
Repaired
and of course, replaced

The Holy Sprite will be Restored
my 59 was restored but will get repainted
my 1st Sprite, a 67 was "replaced" with a different 67 but I still
"restored"  the different 67 last year.
New paint and an interior mean refreshed (but on Ebay that means 100%
ground up restoration)
And since most of us reapair our cars monthly, you all know what that means.


--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep 17 07:15:03 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:15:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
References: <48D0FDC5.2010506@comcast.net>
	<E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
Message-ID: <295247586.20080917061503@pacifier.com>

Hello,

-- 
       Maybe what they mean isn't rust free, but FREE RUST! 


Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "This is my assessment," said Tom irately.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 17 07:16:17 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:16:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>

What gets me is that people say "rust free" when they mean "no rust 
perforation".

I've arrived to look at more than a few "rust free" cars that wouldn't pass 
a 50 yard inspection for "rust free".

Maybe they mean that the rust is included free of charge with the purchase 
of the car?? :)

RD

----Original Message Follows----
Frank,

What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".

There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.

How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:53 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?

Restored
Refreshed
Repainted
Repaired
and of course, replaced

The Holy Sprite will be Restored
my 59 was restored but will get repainted
my 1st Sprite, a 67 was "replaced" with a different 67 but I still
"restored"  the different 67 last year.
New paint and an interior mean refreshed (but on Ebay that means 100%
ground up restoration)
And since most of us reapair our cars monthly, you all know what that means.


--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 07:28:11 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:28:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <091720081328.12358.48D105EB000A9257000030462215593414020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>

Kathryn Bales wrote:
> You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental 
> value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts 
> that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I 
> would do everything in my power to restore her.
 
My Dear Kate,

Please do not lump me in with those heathens. I am a sensitive
type and am hurt by your catorgorizing me as "one of them".  I 
have been advocating that the boy should keep the car he once 
owned, and I shall continue to do so.

Fondling yours, 
--
Kent McLean
'59 100 BN2

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep 17 07:39:25 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:39:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
References: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
	<BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080917083635.02d9b250@nosimport.com>

Robert, you are misreading the advert completely.

Let me help.

"For Sale.  1963 MG Midget.  Great body, $500.00.   Rust free."

Sometimes the seller gets the punctuation wrong.

Peter C
==



At 08:16 AM 9/17/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
>What gets me is that people say "rust free" when they mean "no rust
>perforation".
>
>I've arrived to look at more than a few "rust free" cars that wouldn't pass
>a 50 yard inspection for "rust free".
>
>Maybe they mean that the rust is included free of charge with the purchase
>of the car?? :)
>
>RD
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>Frank,
>
>What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".
>
>There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.
>
>How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee
>
>Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 17 07:40:38 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:40:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <091720081328.12358.48D105EB000A9257000030462215593414020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F393211BEFAFA4F0C924785B84C0@phx.gbl>

If I wanted to find my first MG, ( a 'B) I would have to look all over the 
place.  I heard at one point that a local specialist was using the back end 
to make fibreglass molds.

RD

----Original Message Follows----
Kathryn Bales wrote:
 > You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental
 > value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts
 > that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I
 > would do everything in my power to restore her.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 17 07:43:45 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:43:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
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	<127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
	<091720081158.21302.48D0F0D30003E1DF0000533622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <1DB16F2D36CF4E98882A4D961E8D9EC0@Home>

It should be clear that a car is restored when you are tired of working on 
the #$%^ thing and want to get rid of it.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 17 07:50:22 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:50:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <1DB16F2D36CF4E98882A4D961E8D9EC0@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40F55D3C9EC7DC18EAB831B84C0@phx.gbl>

Ah!  I understand now.  The car was stored.  Someone buys it with the 
intention of getting it on the road.  They find the challenge too great and 
re-store it.  ;)

RD

----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>

It should be clear that a car is restored when you are tired of working on
the #$%^ thing and want to get rid of it.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 17 07:51:21 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:51:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <091720081328.12358.48D105EB000A9257000030462215593414020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
References: <091720081328.12358.48D105EB000A9257000030462215593414020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48D10B59.1010904@frontiernet.net>

No offense, friend, but if you ever try fondling me, you'd better hope 
that you are single.  Otherwise, after I get through dismantling you, I 
will tell your wife and let her finish the project.
>
> Fondling yours, 
> --
> Kent McLean
> '59 100 BN2

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 07:51:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:51:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
References: <091720081328.12358.48D105EB000A9257000030462215593414020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FB682F4875F14B9890954B87D54777AE@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Kathryn Bales wrote:
>> You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental 
>> value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts 
>> that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I 
>> would do everything in my power to restore her.
> 
> My Dear Kate,
> 
> Please do not lump me in with those heathens. I am a sensitive
> type and am hurt by your catorgorizing me as "one of them".  I 
> have been advocating that the boy should keep the car he once 
> owned, and I shall continue to do so.
> 
> Fondling yours, 
> --
> Kent McLean
> '59 100 BN2

Hey, me too! 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep 17 08:04:07 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:04:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lever Shock Fluid Recommendation
In-Reply-To: <be0.429f45bf.3601ac19@aol.com>
References: <be0.429f45bf.3601ac19@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080917085111.03b81a40@nosimport.com>

At 07:40 PM 9/16/2008, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
>So that means the nut (approx,13mm) that sits atop and on the side of the
>shock is the filler hole? If so, that's how I remember MGB shocks being
>configured.
>
>The reason for my question is; I just watched an MG Midget shock  absorber
>Tech Tip You Tube video off the ChicagoLand MG site. In that  video, the guy
>doing the hydraulic fill said in order to fill the shock with  fluid, it was
>first necessary to remove the top plate off the fluid  chamber, 
>which is held on
>by a series of screws. I wasn't planning to go  thru all that, including
>replacement of the cover plate gasket, if I could  merely unscrew 
>the fill plug. I
>guess he was working with some other make or  model shock, other than factory
>original ????
>
>Someone please confirm all of the above for me.
>
>By the way, the shocks I pulled out from the Bugeye had LARGE amounts of
>free travel before any resistance was found. I have a spare set of 
>shocks  off a
>'73 Midget that I plan to use instead. They are firm throughout the entire
>length of arm travel, so I'm thinking they'll be a more suitable 
>candidate in
>this case.
>
>Thanks,
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.
============================
Howard,
         A few items.
         First, the guy on the You Tube video says some correct 
things, and some incorrect. (references to our rebuilding procedures 
are a little incorrect and misleading.)

         First, to merely add oil with the shock on the car, you 
remove the 1/4" Whitworth filler plug that you've identified. (a 
widened 13mm will work. a 9/16" is a little big, but if you are 
careful will work) With a syringe, oil can, or the spout on the fork 
oil container, add oil slowly into the hole. Be patient, there are 2 
very small holes at the bottom of the turret that need time to empty 
fully. Add more oil. It IS possible to overfill. Let the oil drain 
into the shock completely. The shock does not need to be full. Given 
time, the oil will displace any air. Working the arm will speed that 
up. Working the arm vigorously will induce air bubbles, though. Go slowly.


         To do this on the bench is COMPLETELY different, and takes 
more space to describe. I should do this with photos. I think it 
would help. I was hoping the LoTO video of my presentation would be 
available. Someday I will do a You Tube,. Anyway, give me a call, and 
I can walk you through it.

         Regardless, IF your shock needs oil, it leaked. Period. I 
doesn't need to.

Peter C. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 08:13:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:13:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Rims
Message-ID: <10E80B2BA7F1453685339A2BA4478880@NilesAD.von.gov>

Glen,
Since you were curious, I finally got the tires removed from those rims last 
night. Now that they can be measured properly, two of them are 6" rims and 
the other two are 7" rims. I am taking them to the St Louis British Car Show 
this weekend to give them to Barry Lacey for his autocross car. I will lean 
on him to make a token donation to the Holy Sprite in their honor.

Yes, Peter, I am still planning to get to Road America on Sunday.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From engfehr at aol.com  Wed Sep 17 08:21:06 2008
From: engfehr at aol.com (engfehr at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:21:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye starter
Message-ID: <8CAE6E7C21C1800-A44-E36@webmail-db15.sysops.aol.com>

Has anyone installed the high torque starter from Moss on their Bugeye? I just put one on mine (1275 motor) and it won't disengage from the ring gear. This starter is different from stock because it comes in from the front of the flywheel as opposed to the stock starter that throws in from the rear. Before I take it apart again does anyone have a suggestion on what to look for or how to fix this. Thanks. John Engfehr??? Bugeye 1275

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 17 08:35:30 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Small questions
Message-ID: <6F2C17B904DC467B9A0731001250342A@Home>

1.  Should the rebound straps be short enough to prevent the drive shaft from rubbing on the frame when the car is on stands?  How much clearance?  

2.  To stop leaking, I had to tighten one front brake bleeder screw more than seemed reasonable.  Will a new bleeder screw solve this, or must I take the caliper off and resurface the interior somehow?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 17 08:46:02 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:46:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Restored...
Message-ID: <48D0B5BA.8839.CA60D@kk7ss.verizon.net>

MIne is getting "preserved"
Not enough of the right parts to be restored!!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 09:15:02 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:15:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Restored...
References: <48D0B5BA.8839.CA60D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <E1537D47B9414E868EAA052A62F26116@NilesAD.von.gov>

> MIne is getting "preserved"
> Not enough of the right parts to be restored!!

Mine get driven ;-)
David Lieb

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 17 09:24:05 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Restored...
In-Reply-To: <E1537D47B9414E868EAA052A62F26116@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <48D0B5BA.8839.CA60D@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<E1537D47B9414E868EAA052A62F26116@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48D0BEA5.24513.2F7D8F@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I could try driving mine but the rubber band might break  <Grin>

On 17 Sep 2008 at 10:15, David Lieb wrote:
> Mine get driven ;-)
> David Lieb
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 17 09:38:33 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:38:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Restored...
In-Reply-To: <48D0BEA5.24513.2F7D8F@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C4F67289.19C10%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Restored mean frame-off, and with the correct coloured Sprite logo.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 09:53:57 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:53:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Rims
In-Reply-To: <10E80B2BA7F1453685339A2BA4478880@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <10E80B2BA7F1453685339A2BA4478880@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48D12815.6060701@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
> Glen,
> Since you were curious, I finally got the tires removed from those rims last 
> night. Now that they can be measured properly, two of them are 6" rims and 
> the other two are 7" rims. I am taking them to the St Louis British Car Show 
> this weekend to give them to Barry Lacey for his autocross car. I will lean 
> on him to make a token donation to the Holy Sprite in their honor.
>
>   
So that explains the cut out bonnet, chopped off rear points of the 
rockers and smashed in front points of the rear 1/4s.
I knew about the wide wheels but they had to have ZERO clearance on the 
Holy Sprite by the looks of the mods.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 09:56:24 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:56:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Restored...
In-Reply-To: <C4F67289.19C10%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4F67289.19C10%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48D128A8.9070804@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
> Restored mean frame-off, and with the correct coloured Sprite logo.
>   
Many of mine had their frames rusted off and I have made or had new 
frames made.
So when you see a "frame off" you can bet the car rusted so bad the 
frame was swept up with a broom.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Sep 17 10:25:23 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:25:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEBBDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEBBDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W543D824F1F12D4F732009EC24C0@phx.gbl>

Ed, link keeps giving me an error message,
403 permission denied...

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:26:23 -0600
> Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
>
> cute......
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg

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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 17 10:28:42 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:28:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
In-Reply-To: <BLU111-W543D824F1F12D4F732009EC24C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <515270.32517.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I got................
 
You are not authorized to view this page

Vigil
--- On Wed, 9/17/08, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:25 AM

Ed, link keeps giving me an error message,
403 permission denied...

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:26:23 -0600
> Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
>
> cute......
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 10:31:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:31:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080917083635.02d9b250@nosimport.com>
References: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
	<BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080917083635.02d9b250@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809170931q1226803cq12524ee26c9517ab@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of punctuation, shouldn't there be a comma or a hyphen between the
words "rust" and "free"?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Robert, you are misreading the advert completely.
>
> Let me help.
>
> "For Sale.  1963 MG Midget.  Great body, $500.00.   Rust free."
>
> Sometimes the seller gets the punctuation wrong.
>
> Peter C
> ==
>
>
>
> At 08:16 AM 9/17/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
> >What gets me is that people say "rust free" when they mean "no rust
> >perforation".
> >
> >I've arrived to look at more than a few "rust free" cars that wouldn't
> pass
> >a 50 yard inspection for "rust free".
> >
> >Maybe they mean that the rust is included free of charge with the purchase
> >of the car?? :)
> >
> >RD
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >Frank,
> >
> >What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".
> >
> >There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.
> >
> >How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee
> >
> >Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
> >President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 17 10:38:21 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
In-Reply-To: <BLU111-W543D824F1F12D4F732009EC24C0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEBBDKAA.shop@justbrits.com>,
	<BLU111-W543D824F1F12D4F732009EC24C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48D0D00D.13993.7378F1@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I get a nice picture of Bone Age meeting Iron Age...

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Sep 17 11:44:23 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:44:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <20080917.104423.25446.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

Being octagonal, I'd guess that STOP signs only fit Midgets.  What works best
for Sprites?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
Hello,

     Most surprising of all in this discussion of rotted floorpans is
     that no YET has mentioned stealing a STOP sign for the floor
     replacement piece. While I personally have ZERO skills in body or
     mechanical work, I DO remember where to obtain needed items...

     or is that a 55 mph sign that's the closest fit? as I recall the
     gauge thickness is perfect?

--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 17 11:46:36 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:46:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Small questions
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F35DBA6A48234C9FDB11FFBB84C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F35DBA6A48234C9FDB11FFBB84C0@phx.gbl>
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> 1.  Should the rebound straps be short enough to prevent the drive shaft 
> from rubbing on the frame when the car is on stands?  How much clearance?

Cancel this one.  It turned out that the drive shaft was pulled out of the 
transmission when I replaced the rear end.  I assume it will fit better when 
it is properly attached.  Cars are like that.  Which brings up another 
question.  The instructions on replacing the drive shaft say to hold the 
front up with an 8" screw driver through a lubrication hole.  Where might 
this hole be?

The rear end probably should come out anyway.  In fussing with the brakes, I 
discovered that the pinion oil seal is leaking, not the drain plug as I 
thought.  Also, I have one bad hub bearing, so I guess I should replace the 
other as well.

Fun and games on the way to the road.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Sep 17 11:46:57 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:46:57 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
Message-ID: <20080917.104657.25446.1@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

Not to mention 'restomods'.

Clay L.


-- "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
Geez, Bill!  Now you've gone and done it!  You've opened Pandora's box!  We
went through this routine on my antique motorcycle list 2 years ago and it
took MONTHS and thousands of emails to realize there are as many definitions
of "restored" as there are people doing "restorations"....  I'm stayin'
outta this one!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>        the talk about slowly replacing a car, part by part until it
>        no longer has ANY parts original brings up and intesting
>        point....
>
>        When is a car considered restored?
>
>        when it gets repainted?.. body AND paint?
>
>        the engine rebuilt? .. engine and tranny?
>
>        the interior redone?.. or does doing ANY one of these
>        constitute a "restoration"?...
>
>        or does a car have to be ALL original? ..
>
>        Or is replacing regular maintanance  items? shocks, tires,
>        points, brakes? coil? valves? whole head?
>
>        is there a consensus on this?
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Sep 17 12:16:16 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:16:16 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <29A6A4B53EE7480B8EEE4BDFC8B0710C@GuyLaptop>

UK cars of the 60's, and 70's all came with free rust, from new. They were
manufactured that way.
There are photos of 100's of cars lined up in the open air at dock-side
awaiting export. Dock-side means seaside, means salt laden air and a damp
mild climate. They all started rusting from day 1.
Actually, worse than that, it was not uncommon for the steel sheets that
were fed into the presses in the factory to already have more than a dusting
of rust on them.
Couple this to a primitive paint finish - i.e. hidden parts like inside the
sills often had no paint at all and a design which had in-built dirt and
rust traps and the new cars were doomed to encroaching rust before they ever
left the factory.

Not that this was unusual for Spridgets, or indeed unusual to British cars
of that era.

Part of the "charm" ?

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: 17 September 2008 14:16
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?


What gets me is that people say "rust free" when they mean "no rust
perforation".

I've arrived to look at more than a few "rust free" cars that wouldn't pass
a 50 yard inspection for "rust free".

Maybe they mean that the rust is included free of charge with the purchase
of the car?? :)

RD

----Original Message Follows----
Frank,

What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".

There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.

How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:53 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?

Restored
Refreshed
Repainted
Repaired
and of course, replaced

The Holy Sprite will be Restored
my 59 was restored but will get repainted
my 1st Sprite, a 67 was "replaced" with a different 67 but I still
"restored"  the different 67 last year.
New paint and an interior mean refreshed (but on Ebay that means 100%
ground up restoration)
And since most of us reapair our cars monthly, you all know what that means.


--
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Toms River, NJ
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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Sep 17 12:16:35 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
References: <20080917.104657.25446.1@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <010701c918f1$85e25f40$8500a8c0@CT>

There is another category.

How about the adv. that says "older restoration"  or "less than 20,000 miles
since complete frame off"?

They both mean the same, fixed it up and only used for hill climbs and
rallying on gravel.  Ran it past red line less than 50% of the time and sick
of patching it back together.  What paint is left on body is shiny and frame
should be an easy fix.

Finally, if it says needs "TLC" RUN!

Then there is "Surface Rust" which means that the back of the panels have
finally migrated to the outside surface.

And, "recent engine rebuild" means "I blew it up and had to make it run to
sell it but I don't want anything to do with it"

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 17 12:21:49 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:21:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Small questions
In-Reply-To: <CD15A5E51AF44BA895CE5A1A93BB0FA8@Home>
References: <BAY112-F35DBA6A48234C9FDB11FFBB84C0@phx.gbl>
	<CD15A5E51AF44BA895CE5A1A93BB0FA8@Home>
Message-ID: <48D14ABD.9040800@lehigh.edu>

   Michael Rowe wrote:

1.  Should the rebound straps be short enough to prevent the drive shaft
from rubbing on the frame when the car is on stands?  How much clearance?

Cancel this one.  It turned out that the drive shaft was pulled out of the
transmission when I replaced the rear end.  I assume it will fit better when
it is properly attached.  Cars are like that.  Which brings up another
question.  The instructions on replacing the drive shaft say to hold the
front up with an 8" screw driver through a lubrication hole.  Where might
this hole be?

The rear end probably should come out anyway.  In fussing with the brakes, I
discovered that the pinion oil seal is leaking, not the drain plug as I
thought.  Also, I have one bad hub bearing, so I guess I should replace the
other as well.

Fun and games on the way to the road.

   Hi Michael,
   The  lubrication  hole  is on the drivers side of the tunnel where the
   sides  are straight, and in line with where the front U-joint will be.
   You'll  have to peel the tunnel carpet up from that side but shouldn't
   have to remove the seat. If it doesn't have one you'll want a plug for
   that hole when you're finished. Rear hub bearings don't last very long
   in car that's driven hard so replacing them is a good idea.
   John
   Fogelsville, PA

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed Sep 17 12:27:41 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:27:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail...
Message-ID: <380bb01c918f3$11e43da0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

I got that too. But if you cut and paste it works. At least, it did for
me.


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
[uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com]
Sent: 9/17/2008 12:26:42 PM
To: shop at justbrits.com;spridgets at autox.team.net;bugeye15 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail... 

I got................ 

You are not authorized to view this page 

Vigil 
--- On Wed, 9/17/08, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail... 
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>, "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:25 AM 

Ed, link keeps giving me an error message, 
403 permission denied... 

Brian S. 
Bugeyeracer under resto 

> From: shop at justbrits.com 
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:26:23 -0600 
> Subject: [Spridgets] Frank vs Nail... 
> 
> cute...... 
> 
> http://www.justbrits.com/08/FrankC_01.jpg 

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 12:41:30 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:41:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
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One way street signs....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:44 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Being octagonal, I'd guess that STOP signs only fit Midgets.  What works
> best
> for Sprites?
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
>
> -- Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>     Most surprising of all in this discussion of rotted floorpans is
>     that no YET has mentioned stealing a STOP sign for the floor
>     replacement piece. While I personally have ZERO skills in body or
>     mechanical work, I DO remember where to obtain needed items...
>
>     or is that a 55 mph sign that's the closest fit? as I recall the
>     gauge thickness is perfect?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>      * "Time flies," said Tom entomochronometrically.
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 12:44:25 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:44:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
References: <20080917.104423.25446.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0809171141y6e305b8eh983a6c084eb34ad2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C94482787BF6497186D76D58B0279BBD@NilesAD.von.gov>

> One way street signs....

NO NO NO!!!!
If you use those, you will have to tow it home every time.

Use No Parking signs instead and it will be afraid to stop.
Lorry Denials

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Wed Sep 17 12:52:23 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:52:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C94482787BF6497186D76D58B0279BBD@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20080917.104423.25446.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com><43840a7e0809171141y6e305b8eh983a6c084eb34ad2@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94482787BF6497186D76D58B0279BBD@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <975A5479085049A58004F10670835506@AndrewHP>

I think that "Do Not Enter" would make the most sense to keep me from fall
though the floors.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+andrewpayne=intrex.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+andrewpayne=intrex.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:44 PM
To: Jim Johnson; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76

> One way street signs....

NO NO NO!!!!
If you use those, you will have to tow it home every time.

Use No Parking signs instead and it will be afraid to stop.
Lorry Denials
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Sep 17 13:03:17 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:03:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <20080917.120317.29485.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Probably better than the "NO EXIT" signs.

Clay L.


-- "Andrew Payne" <andrewpayne at intrex.net> wrote:
I think that "Do Not Enter" would make the most sense to keep me from fall
though the floors.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+andrewpayne=intrex.net at autox.team.net
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Of David Lieb
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:44 PM
To: Jim Johnson; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76

> One way street signs....

NO NO NO!!!!
If you use those, you will have to tow it home every time.

Use No Parking signs instead and it will be afraid to stop.
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Sep 17 13:17:59 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:17:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20080917191802.3822B187655@autox.team.net>

You might have bought the bug-I I used to drive in the ocean on Zuma beach.
Great fun as long as you keep it above 35-40 mph so when it started to
sputter you could whip it up on the beach to dry the points for the next
run. The car was last seen in the early 1970 on the ice plants south of
Glendale on I-5 south bound with a rod though the block. Not all California
cars are the same.  My blue 61 has had a totally different life. I'm the
second owner and it has never been in the water, no real rust except around
the battery box.  She has spent the last 20 years in dry storage in Reno
with an average humidly of 30%.  The rust free cars are there you just have
to look inland not on the coast.  Before anybody asks, if I want $750 for
the jack wrench imagine what I want for the rest of the car.
		Crash


What makes all of you think that I'm sitting in the middle of a bunch of
cheap, rust-free Sprites? It took me nearly two years to find any Sprite out
here, and it needed floors, both 1/4 panels, A pillars, B pillars, battery
tray, trunk floor, sills, firewall, etc.
And it wasn't cheap!  It was just the only one around.
As far as I know, almost all of the British cars in the US are in the
Mid-West or New England.
BZ

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Wed Sep 17 13:19:13 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 15:19:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <E1083C3BE114469388115DDA5E3A983F@AndrewHP>

Kate,

 

Thanks, and sorry for the delay in my response.  The sentimental value is
good for at least a quarter of the purchase price.  So can you elaborate on
this mythical Two Gun Clarici, and his fly by night floor repairs?  I have
long planned a from scratch "Locost" build, but I am at a loss as to how to
work on this area with out having the car crack in half or stay off the road
until we see a viable third party.  Does this method involve a rotisserie?
Do I need to remove the gas tank, or just drink extra beer?

 

Andrew

 

 

Message: 13

Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:49:54 -0700

From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76

Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net

Message-ID: <48D06242.8020602 at frontiernet.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 

You guys, like most men, are forgetting that this car has sentimental 

value.  If I could find my first MG, other than a few nuts and bolts 

that are probably still somewhere on the hill I splattered her on, I 

would do everything in my power to restore her.

 

If I remember my ancient history correctly, Two Gun Clarici knows how to 

make floor panels from sheet metal.  Installation is not that big a 

deal. I can even do it, and I have no nerves in most of my fingers.  

Sanding and some Ospho will take care of any surface rust, and what is 

underneath doesn't need to have a pretty repair, just functional. Any 

oopsies can be covered by 3M Undercoating, which will also protect the 

undercarriage until the normal covering of oil takes over..

 

Instead of recommending a steering wheel and VIN transplant, let's help 

the poor schmuck fix the car he has finally reconnected with.

 

Kate

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 17 13:23:28 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:23:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <E1083C3BE114469388115DDA5E3A983F@AndrewHP>
References: <E1083C3BE114469388115DDA5E3A983F@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <48D15930.10706@frontiernet.net>

Frank - Help the guy out. Tell him how to do floors the "We Cheap" way.

Kate


Andrew Payne wrote:
>
> Kate,
>
> Thanks, and sorry for the delay in my response. The sentimental value 
> is good for at least a quarter of the purchase price. So can you 
> elaborate on this mythical Two Gun Clarici, and his fly by night floor 
> repairs? I have long planned a from scratch Locost build, but I am 
> at a loss as to how to work on this area with out having the car crack 
> in half or stay off the road until we see a viable third party. Does 
> this method involve a rotisserie? Do I need to remove the gas tank, or 
> just drink extra beer?
>
> Andrew

From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 14:16:14 2008
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:16:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809170931q1226803cq12524ee26c9517ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
	<BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080917083635.02d9b250@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0809170931q1226803cq12524ee26c9517ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62b83300809171316i4b4f4ec6seb56abd3205e8b87@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

I thought you were "Staying out of this one." lol




On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking of punctuation, shouldn't there be a comma or a hyphen between the
> words "rust" and "free"?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > Robert, you are misreading the advert completely.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 17 15:04:19 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:04:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] British Humor
Message-ID: <406B7EFEE1994BF5BAF7181F998E2113@Larry>

The train was quite crowded, so a U. S. Marine walked the entire length
looking for a seat, but the only seat left was taken by a well dressed,
middle-aged, French
 woman's poodle.
 The war-weary Marine asked, 'Ma'am, may I have that seat?'

 The French woman just sniffed and said to no one in particular 'Americans are
so rude. My little Fifi is using that seat.'

 The Marine walked the entire train again, but the only seat left was under
that dog. 'Please, ma'am. May I sit down? I'm very tired.'

 She snorted, 'Not only are you Americans rude, you are also arrogant!'

 This time the Marine didn't say a word; he just picked up the little dog,
tossed it out the train window, and sat down.

 The woman shrieked, 'Someone must defend my honour! This American should be
put in his place!'

 An English gentleman sitting nearby spoke up, 'Sir, you Americans often seem
to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You hold the fork in the wrong
hand. You drive your cars on the wrong side of the road. And now, sir, you
seem to have thrown the wrong bitch out the window.'

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 15:06:00 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:06:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
References: <C4F5A922.19BB2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48D06242.8020602@frontiernet.net>
	<1005D6CBA0394347849765E57052C41B@dave>
	<127766314.20080916211818@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809171406x2a5c36c5x8c8b7d793219d36@mail.gmail.com>

I thought 'restored' meant it ran and you were pleased it did!?!

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Sep 17 15:04:54 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:04:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye
Message-ID: <01ce01c91909$08eeaf30$8500a8c0@CT>

Anybody using one of these?  ebay  200255196828

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 15:11:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:11:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
Message-ID: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>

Any of you using an outdoor cover on your Spridgets that don't fit in the 
garage? If so, are you happy with it?
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 17 15:24:25 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:24:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <01ce01c91909$08eeaf30$8500a8c0@CT>
Message-ID: <968098.12105.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
> Anybody using one of these?  ebay  200255196828

I use and love the Ron Davis Radiators Bugeye clone:

http://flickr.com/photos/soavero/2866500906/

About $150 more than the opening bid, but a functional work of art.

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 16:26:08 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:26:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
In-Reply-To: <62b83300809171316i4b4f4ec6seb56abd3205e8b87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
	<BAY112-F3970D0497DE41D52A11282B84C0@phx.gbl>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080917083635.02d9b250@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0809170931q1226803cq12524ee26c9517ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<62b83300809171316i4b4f4ec6seb56abd3205e8b87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809171526r72de16ady45bc5d3ac5c60f12@mail.gmail.com>

I don't mind doing a little editing, but I won't offer opinions on the
topic!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Brent Wolf <wolf.brent at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I thought you were "Staying out of this one." lol
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of punctuation, shouldn't there be a comma or a hyphen between
>> the
>> words "rust" and "free"?
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Robert, you are misreading the advert completely.
>> >
>>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 16:30:07 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:30:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809171530w774d699qf7525dbc6a3a20e4@mail.gmail.com>

David,

I have one I bought last year for the midget. I used it at LotO in the rain
we had there and it kept the car dry inside (when I got out there quickly
enough to put it on!!)  It cost about $130 if I remember right but I can't
recall where I bought it.  Either Moss or VB I think. It wasn't the top of
the line cover, but it has served me pretty well.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 4:11 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> Any of you using an outdoor cover on your Spridgets that don't fit in the
> garage? If so, are you happy with it?
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Wed Sep 17 17:49:21 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:49:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <SUWCL29MG08k5PtthHb00201fd4@smtpoutcl29.wirelesssyncvzw.net>

Fantastic!

Frank this looks like  a good base for my solution.  I spose that one could
also brace the area with 2x4s mitered to about the right angle to distribute
the force while cutting out the rot, then pop 'em out when done.  Assuming
that one is replacing from the high pedal area to the just into the rear wheel
well, would you add any additional bracing? Is the rear spring supported by
the floor, or just drilled through to annother assembly?

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Andrew Payne" <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
Sent: 9/17/08 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76

Just pick up some 20 ga sheet metal from a local metal shop or check out
a duct fabricator shop in your area.
I had the local heating duct guy take metal and bend up 1" edges all
around. Then I used some self drilling hex head screws and zapped it to
the inner sill, back board, frame in front of the seat and tunnel.
It works. You can always undo those screws a few at a time and weld the
holes like spot welds for a permanent job then cut the old rusty floor
out from the under side.
Same thing with the foot wells, just add 3" to the front toe kick as
that is where they usually rust out too.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 17 19:27:01 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:27:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809171530w774d699qf7525dbc6a3a20e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEGDDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<It cost about $130 if I remember right but I can't
recall where I bought it.>>

Enquiring minds then need to know WHY did you even say anything??

Just what 'useful' information was there in your post??

NONE.

LOL

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 17 18:28:16 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:28:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Small questions
In-Reply-To: <48D14ABD.9040800@lehigh.edu>
References: <BAY112-F35DBA6A48234C9FDB11FFBB84C0@phx.gbl>
	<CD15A5E51AF44BA895CE5A1A93BB0FA8@Home> <48D14ABD.9040800@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <29642A301A63486AA6CBE6142EA0FB5D@Home>

Thanks to all for good advice.  As usual, knowledge makes everything easier.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From gmajewski at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 17 18:29:13 2008
From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:29:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostat
Message-ID: <AB29395C-1C69-4FFF-B3B9-D3A3C48D89FB@wi.rr.com>

Great Group,

      Today I spent some time talking with a person at Victoria  
British. I explained to him
about the thermostats that they have shown in their catalog. On page  
76, in the upper
right quarter of the page is the correct thermostat for my vehicle. In  
the bottom lower
right quarter is shown thermostats for the midget vehicles. Diagrams  
are different but
they have the same order number. I have maybe about only 1/2 " at most  
clearance between
the mounting surface flange and the bottom of the cover where the  
radiator hose connects
to. The person at Victoria British was going to contact their supplier  
and see if they have the
correct item.

      I have ordered from VB and Moss and have received the same style  
thermostats and
neither will allow the cover of the thermostat to fit. The one from  
Moss is still in the package,
is a 165 degree and free to anyone who wants it. Email me and its  
yours. First email gets it.

      Running a blanking sleeve is okay, but when the weather is 40  
degrees, sure need more
heat, as it takes about 1/2 hour to get any temp to run decent.

    Gary     59 BE

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 17 19:30:57 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:30:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <SUWCL29MG08k5PtthHb00201fd4@smtpoutcl29.wirelesssyncvzw.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEGEDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<also brace the area with 2x4s mitered to about the right angle to
distribute the force while cutting out the rot, then pop 'em out when
done.>>

WAY easier to use 1/2" conduit 'pipe', Andrew.  Measure out the space,
cut the 8' "stick" 6" LONGER then with BFH FLATTEN the ends.  Bend
'flats' to suit and drill screw (self-tapping sheet metal screws) into
place.

Almost bet cheaper too<G>!

Ed

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 18:32:36 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:32:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1652.1221659481.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1652.1221659481.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48D1A1A4.30401@comcast.net>

Kate wrote:
 > No offense, friend, but if you ever try fondling me, you'd better hope
 > that you are single.  Otherwise, after I get through dismantling you, I
 > will tell your wife and let her finish the project.

There you go painting with that broad brush again, assuming I must be
married.  I don't have to hope I'm single. One divorce later, I have
papers (and no house and bank account) to prove it. :)

Cheers,

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 17 18:45:52 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:45:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>

I saw a comment somewhere about elastic at the bottom forming pockets that 
collected water and rusted out the bottom corners of the car.  Perhaps some 
care should be taken to provide drainage for condensation.  Stakes or rocks 
in pockets might be better than cinching in around the bottom

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From bighealey at charter.net  Wed Sep 17 19:05:59 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:05:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <968098.12105.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5A76041866854D80A519744FD8C07203@TRACY>

I met Ron Davis at the Monterey Historic races.  He is a real standup guy
and after a lengthy conversation I am convinced he won't allow inferior
parts to be made with his name on the.  We use one in the Maggie the MGA
racecar.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Soave
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:24 PM
To: spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye

--- On Wed, 9/17/08, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
> Anybody using one of these?  ebay  200255196828

I use and love the Ron Davis Radiators Bugeye clone:

http://flickr.com/photos/soavero/2866500906/

About $150 more than the opening bid, but a functional work of art.

Ron
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 19:00:11 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:00:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEGDDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <43840a7e0809171530w774d699qf7525dbc6a3a20e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEGDDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809171800p6e72885ama536d00d0f622f9e@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, yer right, Ed.  But sending emails of zero value is a real art.
Someday I hope to be as good at it as you are.  Once I reach that lofty
goal, I'll try to get as good as you are at pi$$ing people off too...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<It cost about $130 if I remember right but I can't
> recall where I bought it.>>
>
> Enquiring minds then need to know WHY did you even say anything??
>
> Just what 'useful' information was there in your post??
>
> NONE.
>
> LOL

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 17 19:11:08 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:11:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
In-Reply-To: <48D1A1A4.30401@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.1652.1221659481.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<48D1A1A4.30401@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48D1AAAC.4070402@frontiernet.net>

Been there, done that.  You have my condolences or congratulations, 
whichever seem appropriate.

Kate
> One divorce later, I have
> papers (and no house and bank account) to prove it. :)
>
> Cheers,
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 17 19:19:28 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye
References: <01ce01c91909$08eeaf30$8500a8c0@CT>
Message-ID: <D2900314BC5A4849A96FF5B42808F957@blackbox2>

Eric (who's last name now escapes me) had one on his green Judson supercharged MKII at the 50th in Carlisle.
There were quite a few of us who were eyeing it up.   Really nice build quality. 

I know I would like to get one, but I just sunk some change on chrome, so it might be a while.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
Subject: [Spridgets] Wizard Aluminium Radiator Bugeye


> Anybody using one of these?  ebay  200255196828

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 17 19:25:06 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:25:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
In-Reply-To: <C4F5BDB0.19BCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20080918012505.WSBQ29383.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi all-

I was about to pick up some antifreeze today, but had a thought...

Since the Sprite will be outside huddled next to the garage this winter, is
it better to put the proper antifreeze mix in it, or drain it totally?

Thanks
Chris

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 17 19:26:31 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:26:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hi, I'm new. Please help me and my '76
Message-ID: <C4F6FC57.19C60%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> The rust free cars are there you just have
> to look inland not on the coast.
I saw a rubber bumpered Midget going up Main Street about a year ago.
I think that was the last English car I saw, other than mine.
BZ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 17 19:31:53 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:31:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
References: <20080918012505.WSBQ29383.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <C7FF6BA78E8B4C308F06DE75AD0779A7@midget>

> I was about to pick up some antifreeze today, but had a thought...
>
> Since the Sprite will be outside huddled next to the garage this winter, 
> is
> it better to put the proper antifreeze mix in it, or drain it totally?

Chris,
Assuming you have no antifreeze in it just now, there is no practical
way to get all the fluid out of it, so you are better off getting it to the
proper mixture of antifreeze and water and drive it enough to be sure
that it is all thoroughly mixed. Otherwise you risk leaving just enough
freezable liquid somewhere and we all know that global warming has
not yet made a percepitble difference in Milwaukee winters.
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 17 20:42:38 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:42:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
In-Reply-To: <C7FF6BA78E8B4C308F06DE75AD0779A7@midget>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEGLDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<so you are better off getting it to the proper mixture of antifreeze and
water and drive it enough to be sure that it is all thoroughly mixed.>>

David is 1000% correct, Chris.  Matter of fact, I would check the container
of what ever you purchase and up the %s to get to maybe a 60%/40% mix.

I don't think Cheeseland is gonna be 'warmer' than Flatland<VBG>!!

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 19:45:53 2008
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:45:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
Message-ID: <A2479D0D-FE24-4988-8A5B-601E866A0657@gmail.com>

Hey All,

The clutch is in a 1500 Midget.  We recently swapped engines.  All  
was fine immediately after the swap but the following symptoms have  
begun to surface;

When the engine is off and the clutch is depressed, it feels like a  
normal clutch.  (Easy to push in and release).

When the engine is running the clutch is much more difficult to  
depress and the pressure pushing back on the pedal (pedal resistance)  
is more than when the engine is not running.

There is no noise or vibration associated with this problem.  It's  
just much harder to push in the clutch pedal with the engine running  
than it is with the engine not running.

Any Ideas?

Kevin V.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 17 20:47:03 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:47:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Stakes or rocks in pockets might be better than cinching in around the
bottom>>

EXCELLENT point, Michael !!  I would go so far as to suggest nipping the
elastic with scissors to eliminate the possibility.

Ed

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 17 19:52:13 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:52:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
In-Reply-To: <A2479D0D-FE24-4988-8A5B-601E866A0657@gmail.com>
References: <A2479D0D-FE24-4988-8A5B-601E866A0657@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809171852v1c8fbb7g6b3aa172d53a3e0a@mail.gmail.com>

Thrust washer/bearing problems??  That's the only thing I can think of that
changes in the clutch between running and non-running.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> The clutch is in a 1500 Midget.  We recently swapped engines.  All
> was fine immediately after the swap but the following symptoms have
> begun to surface;
>
> When the engine is off and the clutch is depressed, it feels like a
> normal clutch.  (Easy to push in and release).
>
> When the engine is running the clutch is much more difficult to
> depress and the pressure pushing back on the pedal (pedal resistance)
> is more than when the engine is not running.
>
> There is no noise or vibration associated with this problem.  It's
> just much harder to push in the clutch pedal with the engine running
> than it is with the engine not running.
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> Kevin V.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 17 20:12:50 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEGLDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <20080918021249.ZHCN18500.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Sound advice, thanks all.  Thought I had storage but you know how that goes.
I forgot about the rust inhibitors as well.

And better yet, when we have our first false spring for a few days in
January, it'll be one step closer to take a quick spin around the block.  We
have those at times through May. Usually if it hits 60, it will be followed
by two weeks of glacier. 

Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:43 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question

<<so you are better off getting it to the proper mixture of antifreeze and
water and drive it enough to be sure that it is all thoroughly mixed.>>

David is 1000% correct, Chris.  Matter of fact, I would check the container
of what ever you purchase and up the %s to get to maybe a 60%/40% mix.

I don't think Cheeseland is gonna be 'warmer' than Flatland<VBG>!!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 17 20:20:00 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:20:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
References: <20080918021249.ZHCN18500.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <A025AA74948946B4B5E3997BABFEE5A8@Larry>

Chris, if you go to a boat supply place like West Marine etc. they have a 
desiccant that you can put inside the car to absorb the moisture.  That 
should help a lot if you are storing outside.

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question


Sound advice, thanks all.  Thought I had storage but you know how that goes.
I forgot about the rust inhibitors as well.

And better yet, when we have our first false spring for a few days in
January, it'll be one step closer to take a quick spin around the block.  We
have those at times through May. Usually if it hits 60, it will be followed
by two weeks of glacier.

Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:43 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question

<<so you are better off getting it to the proper mixture of antifreeze and
water and drive it enough to be sure that it is all thoroughly mixed.>>

David is 1000% correct, Chris.  Matter of fact, I would check the container
of what ever you purchase and up the %s to get to maybe a 60%/40% mix.

I don't think Cheeseland is gonna be 'warmer' than Flatland<VBG>!!
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From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Sep 17 21:28:50 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:28:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
References: <A2479D0D-FE24-4988-8A5B-601E866A0657@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A6FAC1BEF7143709864AF2816EAEF0A@dave>

With the engine off, have one person watch the front crankshaft pulley. 
Have a second person depress the clutch pedal. Using a long pry bar or pipe, 
pry back on the crankshaft pully while the person inside the car releases 
the clutch.  If the front pulley moves forward and backwards AT ALL you can 
be 99.9% sure that you have lost the thrust bearings inside the engine. 
VERY common problem on spitfidget engines.  Do not continue to run the 
engine or siginificant damage to the crankshaft will result.

For repair, look up threads on pinning the thrust bearings.

David R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:45 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem


> Hey All,
>
> The clutch is in a 1500 Midget.  We recently swapped engines.  All
> was fine immediately after the swap but the following symptoms have
> begun to surface;
>
> When the engine is off and the clutch is depressed, it feels like a
> normal clutch.  (Easy to push in and release).
>
> When the engine is running the clutch is much more difficult to
> depress and the pressure pushing back on the pedal (pedal resistance)
> is more than when the engine is not running.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 04:21:19 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:21:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>

Good question my little Sprite needs to spend her first winter in the
driveway should I cut the elastic?
Lin
62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<Stakes or rocks in pockets might be better than cinching in around the
> bottom>>
>
> EXCELLENT point, Michael !!  I would go so far as to suggest nipping the
> elastic with scissors to eliminate the possibility.
>
> Ed
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 04:27:31 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:27:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
In-Reply-To: <011501c9180c$00d6ef90$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <205cef430809160314n32612a7fjae0ea78ef77ef935@mail.gmail.com>
	<011501c9180c$00d6ef90$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <205cef430809180327g13f78866wcde52cd82eac91a7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Larry I have that one Andy is looking for a photo of the true
retractable headlight prototype Sprite he may still have on his hard drive.
Cool.
Lin

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller
<millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> Linda
>
> There is a picture of an original prototype Bugeye at http://www.ado13.com
>
> Larry Miller
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" <
> grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:14 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
>
>
>  List,
>> Does anyone have Jerry Coker's email address? I want to ask him some
>> questions about his original Sprite design without the headlights on top
>> but
>> retractable. I hear the original design may have been like the Porsche 928
>> GT with the glass on top http://www.joe-ks.com/images/HIS928.jpg? I
>> cannot
>> say I like the glass up design or not just yet because I have seen and
>> somewhere have the photo of a smooth Bugeye bonnet (the owner had lost the
>> headlights to an accident) with small headlights in the grill and the
>> smooth
>> top looked cool and futuristic but clearly it is great to have her eyes
>> open
>> : )
>>
>> I think asking Jerry will put this to rest as I am hoping after my dad's
>> estate is settled and I am out of this new overwhelming debt to keep his
>> COOP afloat I will (with the help of manufactures) modify my Bugeye bonnet
>> to have that same design. I am hoping to get Jerry's blessing on this
>> project and if it works out without me loosing my shirt put it on a tub.
>> Linda
>>
>> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Sep 18 06:43:54 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:43:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
Message-ID: <1ee2801c9198c$35dbc180$056a010a@mail2world.com>

I did use one for a while, until I got a garage to rent. (both on the
Midget and the Cosworth) They do get fairly wet if it rains hard, but it
does keep rain from splashing in through any openings. Only really
lasted 2-3 years before it started to tear and discolor. They're OK,
better than nothing, but don't expect miracles.
 
-=Chris 

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: 9/17/2008 5:09:03 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers 

Any of you using an outdoor cover on your Spridgets that don't fit in
the 
garage? If so, are you happy with it? 
David Lieb 
1972 1960 1974 1973 
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 18 06:48:07 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:48:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D24E07.9070007@lehigh.edu>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Good question my little Sprite needs to spend her first winter in the
> driveway should I cut the elastic?
> Lin
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
>
>   
>
There is a problem with collecting water after heavy rain, but I would 
NOT cut the elastic. You just need to reach under and drain it 
periodically.  Without the elastic the ends of the cover will just blow 
up off the car. Also for anyone who covers their car with the top down, 
like I do on those days I need the space in the garage, you have 
probably already know how sharp the corners of the wing window frames 
are! I have two holes in my expensive cover to patch.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Sep 18 06:52:26 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 05:52:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
Message-ID: <1242a01c9198d$66e9a0c0$116a010a@mail2world.com>

As has been mentioned, thrust washers could be it. Also, did you change
the throw-out bearing for the clutch? They are presssed in and are a
PITA, but that's the only other moving thing.
 
Is that plastic hydraulic line OK?

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Kevin Valentine [kevinv1275 at gmail.com]
Sent: 9/17/2008 9:43:53 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem 

Hey All, 

The clutch is in a 1500 Midget. We recently swapped engines. All 
was fine immediately after the swap but the following symptoms have 
begun to surface; 

When the engine is off and the clutch is depressed, it feels like a 
normal clutch. (Easy to push in and release). 

When the engine is running the clutch is much more difficult to 
depress and the pressure pushing back on the pedal (pedal resistance) 
is more than when the engine is not running. 

There is no noise or vibration associated with this problem. It's 
just much harder to push in the clutch pedal with the engine running 
than it is with the engine not running. 

Any Ideas? 

Kevin V. 
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 07:25:52 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:25:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <48D24E07.9070007@lehigh.edu>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D24E07.9070007@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809180625n3b11a92x2bdfa3900cec81a1@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe put some tennis balls on the corners of the wing window frame.
I stored mine outside for awhile.  In fact, I installed a power
retracting antenna so that it would be one less thing to mess with
when covering the car.  However, the car was a daily driver and I was
covering/uncovering it frequently.

Trevor

> There is a problem with collecting water after heavy rain, but I would
> NOT cut the elastic. You just need to reach under and drain it
> periodically.  Without the elastic the ends of the cover will just blow
> up off the car. Also for anyone who covers their car with the top down,
> like I do on those days I need the space in the garage, you have
> probably already know how sharp the corners of the wing window frames
> are! I have two holes in my expensive cover to patch.
> John

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 18 07:43:00 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:43:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809180625n3b11a92x2bdfa3900cec81a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D24E07.9070007@lehigh.edu>
	<8c1781040809180625n3b11a92x2bdfa3900cec81a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D25AE4.9080302@lehigh.edu>

Trevor Jessie wrote:
> Maybe put some tennis balls on the corners of the wing window frame.
> I stored mine outside for awhile.  In fact, I installed a power
> retracting antenna so that it would be one less thing to mess with
> when covering the car.  However, the car was a daily driver and I was
> covering/uncovering it frequently.
>
> Trevor
>
>   
Trevor,
Thank you for an elegant solution. Much better than the duct tape & 
folded rags I've been using.
John

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep 18 07:47:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:47:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809180625n3b11a92x2bdfa3900cec81a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D24E07.9070007@lehigh.edu>
	<8c1781040809180625n3b11a92x2bdfa3900cec81a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8A7AA97-0E95-4F10-B856-2ACADE5C98B9@comcast.net>

I can tell you that the nice CLOTH ones last a long time and work  
well and I can also tell you that the cheapie PVC ones that are  
readily available last about a year or so in bright sunlight.

Lester

On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote:

> Maybe put some tennis balls on the corners of the wing window frame.
> I stored mine outside for awhile.  In fact, I installed a power
> retracting antenna so that it would be one less thing to mess with
> when covering the car.  However, the car was a daily driver and I was
> covering/uncovering it frequently.
>
> Trevor
>
>> There is a problem with collecting water after heavy rain, but I  
>> would
>> NOT cut the elastic. You just need to reach under and drain it
>> periodically.  Without the elastic the ends of the cover will just  
>> blow
>> up off the car. Also for anyone who covers their car with the top  
>> down,
>> like I do on those days I need the space in the garage, you have
>> probably already know how sharp the corners of the wing window frames
>> are! I have two holes in my expensive cover to patch.
>> John
> _______

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 18 08:01:31 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:01:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <17326DFD23A14220A5CD4525AE36BD8F@Home>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEGMDLAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<205cef430809180321s7ecb0ab8k572ee44d28bb283c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EDB92174A81C4B2DB5BACF2E004D1744@Home>

>Good question my little Sprite needs to spend her first winter in the driveway should I cut the elastic? 

Depends on how the cover fits.  You just need to make sure that no pockets form anywhere.  It doesn't matter how you do that, so long as it works.  Also, the less touching of the body the better.  Condensation *will* form on the underside under some conditions.  The better the air circulation, the less time it will spend there.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Isand, NY

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Sep 18 09:03:03 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC: Frank's or Ron's advice????
Message-ID: <48D26DA7.6020208@wi.net>

*A little smile for the day.  Not politically correct, perhaps, but I 
smiled.  Anon.*

An old Italian Mafia Don is dying and he calls for his grandson to 
approach the bed.

'Lissin' a me. I wanna for you to taka my chrome-plated 38-caliber 
revolver (you may insert "nail gun"), so you will always remember me.

The grandson smiles weakly and replies; 'But grandpa, I really donna 
alika guns.

Howzabout you leava me you ROLEX watch instead?'

Gasping for air the old man answers with a snarl in his
voice; 'Shuddupan lissin'.

Somma day, you gonna runna da business. You gonna have a beautiful a 
wife, lotsa money, a biga home, and maybea a couple of bambinos.'

After a slight pause to catch his breath he continues; 'Somma day, you 
gonna? comma home, and maybe find you wife inna bed with another man.

Whadda you gonna do.. ..pointa to you watch and say 'Times up?'

From lists at woozy.com  Thu Sep 18 09:36:16 2008
From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:36:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
In-Reply-To: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <1FED66DF4B804E1895BB71F3EE19584D@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48D27570.5090603@woozy.com>

Hi David,

I use a tyvek one on my Midget. I've tried a number of other covers but 
keep coming back to this one:

<http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=37111&SortOrder=1>

It needs to be replaced about once a year or so but luckily it's not 
super expensive. If you order it through one of the Moss resellers you 
can get it for around $56.00.

Robert


David Lieb wrote:
> Any of you using an outdoor cover on your Spridgets that don't fit in the 
> garage? If so, are you happy with it?
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Sep 18 12:26:50 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:26:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Covers
Message-ID: <B44D85344FE4491BBB53B2E09ABEA378@psych.washington.edu>

You might also try using foam pipe insulation on the along the upper edge of
the windshield and wing windows.

Rich

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Maybe put some tennis balls on the corners of the wing window frame.
I stored mine outside for awhile.  In fact, I installed a power
retracting antenna so that it would be one less thing to mess with
when covering the car.  However, the car was a daily driver and I was
covering/uncovering it frequently.

Trevor

> There is a problem with collecting water after heavy rain, but I would
> NOT cut the elastic. You just need to reach under and drain it
> periodically.  Without the elastic the ends of the cover will just blow
> up off the car. Also for anyone who covers their car with the top down,
> like I do on those days I need the space in the garage, you have
> probably already know how sharp the corners of the wing window frames
> are! I have two holes in my expensive cover to patch.
> John

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 13:19:59 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster))
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:19:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for carbs
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0809181219w181034cbse7e362620e782b28@mail.gmail.com>

This big Dellorto carb on my 73 Midget is really too much carb for my simple
cruising around town so I'm looking to convert my car back to the original
dual SU setup.

Anyone have a good set of SU's proper for a 73 Midget laying around complete
with linkage and heatshield ready to bolt up that they want to get rid of
for a reasonable price?  Or even a cheap price would be good (the
unenjoyment check doesnt go very far these days)!

Anyone?

From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu Sep 18 16:14:11 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:14:11 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Outdoor cover for Spridgets
Message-ID: <c13.3f007ed3.36042cb3@aol.com>

I have a nice one I paid good bucks for, complete with custom mouse holes  
where the mice ate through it with I stored it in the shed.
 
I used one on my TR4 for a couple of years and the problem I had was sand  
blew under it, and it flapped in the wind, and sanded through my new Imron paint 
 in a couple of areas.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 9/18/2008 12:08:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Any of  you using an outdoor cover on your Spridgets that don't fit in
the  
garage? If so, are you happy with it?  






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From nases at verizon.net  Thu Sep 18 19:09:31 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:09:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MC pushrods adjustment
Message-ID: <E492B5D4-DE40-4CA1-8EF9-84B077507071@verizon.net>

I'm about to bleed the clutch and brakes and I can't find information  
on the initial setup for the MC pushrods.

Where do I set them after a complete disassembly and replacement of  
all parts?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 18 20:02:27 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:02:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] radio show
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP23C86B7DBCF7F2AB7EC452B84E0@phx.gbl>

No lbc here.

 

If anyone is interested, there will be a radio show broadcast from my living
room tomorrow ( Friday ) AM, from 5:30 to 9am EST.

 

http://www.chez106.com/mediaplayer/mediaPlayer2.jsp

 

I don't have any idea what to expect.  They're saying things like . a
special surprise guest known by all Canadians . high security.  I think
they're just ( successfully ) messing with my mind.

 

Robert D.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep 18 21:18:40 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:18:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Supercollider webcam for the techies..
Message-ID: <80265DCA-560B-4BDD-85E3-7794148C9C38@comcast.net>

http://blogs.spectrum.ieee.org/tech_talk/2008/08/switzerlands_nerdcore_scene.html

Lester

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 21:35:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:35:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] radio show
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP23C86B7DBCF7F2AB7EC452B84E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP23C86B7DBCF7F2AB7EC452B84E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809182035u16753e40k3ed885c4aafae687@mail.gmail.com>

Cool!!  It's either Guy LaFleur or Patrick Roy!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> No lbc here.
>
>
>
> If anyone is interested, there will be a radio show broadcast from my
> living
> room tomorrow ( Friday ) AM, from 5:30 to 9am EST.
>
>
>
> http://www.chez106.com/mediaplayer/mediaPlayer2.jsp
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea what to expect.  They're saying things like . a
> special surprise guest known by all Canadians . high security.  I think
> they're just ( successfully ) messing with my mind.
>
>
>
> Robert D.
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From cmlove at knology.net  Thu Sep 18 21:36:26 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:36:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel hub pulling
In-Reply-To: <48C6F818.2080100@sbcglobal.net>
References: <48C6F818.2080100@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1221795386.12542.3.camel@linux4monty>

I have the wheel hubs off the spindles and I need to replace the wheel
studs because one on each side is broken off.  How do you get the wheel
hub apart?  I see in one of my books that it says to use a wheel hub
puller to seperate the wheel hub, but I don't understand how that works
with the steel disc brake drum for the front.  

I have a '73 Midget with front disc brakes and it is the hubs I am
trying to seperate.  They are also very rusty.  Any good suggestions or
instructions for doing this operation?

Thanks,

Monty Love
Huntsville, Al.
'73 Midget in a 1000 pieces in the garage....

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 18 22:21:22 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:21:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel hub pulling
In-Reply-To: <1221795386.12542.3.camel@linux4monty>
References: <48C6F818.2080100@sbcglobal.net>
	<1221795386.12542.3.camel@linux4monty>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0809182121h719511b8pd9289533702c62c4@mail.gmail.com>

Monty,

Before pulling the rotors off of the hubs, knock the broken studs out and
try to wiggle the new ones into place. It has been a long time but I seem to
remember that it is possible to replace the studs with the rotor on the hub.
If you can get the new ones up through the holes just put a spacer on the
stud and then pull them into place with the lug nut.

If that doesn't work:

Remove the bolts that hold the rotor onto the hub. They are funny looking
with slots cut in them. Find a suitable rest for the assembly. You want to
support the rotor with the hub hanging down below it but off the ground. I
usually use two cinder blocks with a 2 x 4 on the edge of each to support
the rotor. Choose (wisely) a long reach socket of the correct size to set on
the rim of the hub. Hold the socket so that the end that normally attaches
to a ratchet is the end that you will be striking. The open end goes against
the hub rim... Using a BFH (I recommend a 2 lb sledge) smack the socket
sharply and repeatedly until the rotor is free of the hub. If it is really,
really stuck you might put a piece of wood between the socket and the hammer
during the smacking process to avoid damage to the socket. I use one of my
black air impact sockets for this gentle procedure and have not ruined one
yet. Paul A. can testify to a large number of hubs that I have separated
from the rotors!

Also note that, technically speaking, you should replace the weird bolts
that hold the rotors to the hubs. Even though I have never seen one fail, I
have seen them fall out. If you reuse them put some Lock-tite on them... I
assume no liability and do not advocate the circumvention of accepted
technical standards that apply to our little cars and am in no way
responsible for the use or misuse of the information that I have provided!
Your mileage may vary, all rights reserved, conditions may apply, see dealer
for details, EPA mileage is purely a guess, NFI, etc.!


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Monty Love <cmlove at knology.net> wrote:

> I have the wheel hubs off the spindles and I need to replace the wheel
> studs because one on each side is broken off.  How do you get the wheel
> hub apart?  I see in one of my books that it says to use a wheel hub
> puller to seperate the wheel hub, but I don't understand how that works
> with the steel disc brake drum for the front.
>
> I have a '73 Midget with front disc brakes and it is the hubs I am
> trying to seperate.  They are also very rusty.  Any good suggestions or
> instructions for doing this operation?

From davriker at nwi.net  Thu Sep 18 23:29:49 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:29:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?
References: <E299A43F57044D41AA34B5E568D23AA6@TRACY>
Message-ID: <C53F81291C20420A936BB079EE5D0E3D@dave>

Rust free means no visible rust through or bubbling on any body panel AND 
never having needed any repair to remedy prior rust damage.  Bare cast iron, 
like suspension parts, hubs, etc can have surface flash and oxidation and I 
wouldn't consider them rusty.  Interior floor boards can have surface 
oxidation, and I would call that surface rust, but still consider the car 
cancer free.  Areas that are for all intents and purposes sealed, and 
unexposed are obviously not subject to inspection.  I drive a rust free 1974 
Midget from California.  It has NEVER had any panel replaced due to rust 
damage, it has NEVER had any metal replaced due to rust through, it has the 
original floor boards, rockers, doors, and sills.  (Ok, I replaced the 
battery tray but battery acid is a little different story).  Some parts have 
been repaired and replaced due to accident damage, not rust.  I have a 1970 
Ford Torino same story.  California all of its life.  Soda blasted it to 
bare metal, NO RUST.  1963 Falcon.  4 pinholes of rust starting behind the 
left rear fender.  No salt air, no snow, no ice, NO RUST. Central California 
where the cars don't rust.

Use of the word restored requires a follow up question or qualifying phrase, 
like:
restored to be like the one I had in highschool
restored to factory specifications
cosmetically restored
mechanically restored
restored to the way I remembered it.
restored to a condition far more detailed than ever existed

David R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Drummond" <bighealey at charter.net>
To: "'Frank Clarici'" <spritenut at comcast.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] When does it become restored?


> Frank,
>
> What I must admit amuses me most are the "rust free cars".
>
> There is no such thing.  Cracks me up every time I see that on eBay.
>
> How about a Fully Restored Rust Free Car.   wheeeeeee
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 03:37:56 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:37:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] picture of 1st Sprite prototype
Message-ID: <205cef430809190237k15315dcawc1d3bd536448c2d0@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the photo of the 1st Sprite Prototype and I am surprised at the
look. I will look for the image I have from a Bugeyeless Sprite where the
bucket lights are gone and smoothed over and very small headlights were in
the grill I think it looks cool but this prototype I am just not sure about.
The cool thing would be to bring Gerry's original design to the road.

Is this from our Biff's site?
http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/bugeye-prototype/bugeyespriteprototype.html

Does anyone know where this prototype is now? Crushed? or in a museum?
Linda

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 03:59:00 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:59:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for the book "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey
Message-ID: <205cef430809190259j4370167ar18c07ef317ce2364@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have an image of the cover to "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey?
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 04:02:17 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:02:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool other Sprite? XQHS
Message-ID: <205cef430809190302g1a64f72fke0b09671e33de80d@mail.gmail.com>

This is an interesting take on the Sprite I never heard of it XQHS it would
be cool to see more images all the way around as it is mostly Sprite. I have
got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now.

"*XQHS* was built by the Donald Healey Motor Company during 1962 to a Les
Ireland design, allegedly from earlier sketches by Gerry Coker. Built as a
prototype to assess the viability & performance advantages of fitting a
1100cc Coventry Climax engine, the car was also fitted with disc brakes on
all four wheels.
The chassis is original Sprite Mk1 modified to accept the special aluminium
outer bodywork & unique forward hinging bonnet made at the Donald Healey
Motor Company by Bill Buckingham."

http://www.austin-healey-club.com/Pages/AH50-woolmer-series.html

Lin

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Sep 19 05:20:10 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:20:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] winter storage cooling system question
In-Reply-To: <20080918012505.WSBQ29383.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080918012505.WSBQ29383.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <FAADD2E0-D038-49F1-BE21-1938DE87D0CF@phillymgclub.com>

IMHO it is better to fill w/ the correct anti-freeze mix. In my  
experience unless you can turn the car over and end for end, you will  
not get the engine block drained of fluids and that leaves a couple  
places where local freezing could occur and cause damage. Not saying  
it will happen, but if it's filled with the proper mix, you know it  
won't freeze.

Larry

On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:

> Hi all-
>
> I was about to pick up some antifreeze today, but had a thought...
>
> Since the Sprite will be outside huddled next to the garage this  
> winter, is
> it better to put the proper antifreeze mix in it, or drain it totally?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Sep 19 05:22:12 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:22:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
In-Reply-To: <5A6FAC1BEF7143709864AF2816EAEF0A@dave>
References: <A2479D0D-FE24-4988-8A5B-601E866A0657@gmail.com>
	<5A6FAC1BEF7143709864AF2816EAEF0A@dave>
Message-ID: <6950AD4A-0939-4A34-B0BA-5627A572A8EA@phillymgclub.com>

Good thought David, however in my personal experience when the thrust  
washer fell out the only change was a bit of difficulty shifting,  
sometimes. I recall no change in the clutch travel or pressure.

But Kevin, check that anyway, just to be safe. I do not want to spend  
another day swapping that engine out quite so soon.

Larry


On Sep 17, 2008, at 11:28 PM, David Riker wrote:

> With the engine off, have one person watch the front crankshaft  
> pulley.
> Have a second person depress the clutch pedal. Using a long pry bar  
> or pipe,
> pry back on the crankshaft pully while the person inside the car  
> releases
> the clutch.  If the front pulley moves forward and backwards AT ALL  
> you can
> be 99.9% sure that you have lost the thrust bearings inside the  
> engine.
> VERY common problem on spitfidget engines.  Do not continue to run the
> engine or siginificant damage to the crankshaft will result.
>
> For repair, look up threads on pinning the thrust bearings.
>
> David R.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Valentine" <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:45 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] HELP Diagnosing a Clutch Problem
>
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> The clutch is in a 1500 Midget.  We recently swapped engines.  All
>> was fine immediately after the swap but the following symptoms have
>> begun to surface;
>>
>> When the engine is off and the clutch is depressed, it feels like a
>> normal clutch.  (Easy to push in and release).
>>
>> When the engine is running the clutch is much more difficult to
>> depress and the pressure pushing back on the pedal (pedal resistance)
>> is more than when the engine is not running.
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parked car.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 19 06:01:43 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:01:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for the book "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809190259j4370167ar18c07ef317ce2364@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430809190259j4370167ar18c07ef317ce2364@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA0E647A65E34BA9A0FA85A389CAB51D@spider>

Here is a small image via Google/images

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/midgetspriteclub/MascNew/Images/books/b16.gif

 

You might try several of the book sites; Amazon doesn't have an image. .bill

====================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:59 AM
To: Spridgets Digest
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for the book "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey

 

Does anyone have an image of the cover to "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey?

Lin

_______________________________________________

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 19 06:06:10 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:06:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for the book "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809190259j4370167ar18c07ef317ce2364@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <091920081206.15710.48D395B1000D782D00003D5E22230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog googled:

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/midgetspriteclub/MascNew/Books.html


See the fourth image.
  -------------- Original message from "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>: --------------


> Does anyone have an image of the cover to "More Healeys" by Geoff Healey?
> Lin

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Sep 19 06:13:51 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Restoration Rust
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4lakla@email.mtu.edu>

Speaking of rust. . .  the fire is out and there was very little damage.
Yesterday I was doing some electrolytic rust removal. I used a small 
diameter wire to suspend a part in the "soap soup" AND used that wire 
to make the electrical connection. Evidently the wire didn't handle 
the current and became hot enough to ignite the top rim of the 
plastic pail. While that was happening, I was outside the garage and 
knew nothing of what was going on until I heard the smoke detector 
going off. It wasn't a big fire but it was a plastic fire so the pail 
was melting and burning puddles were beginning to burn my work bench. 
I suppose the fire would have self extinguished when it reached the 
water level, but . . .  I have often activated the smoke alarm while 
heating nuts and bolts and even making some dust. Sometimes a pain in 
the butt. BUT yesterday I was very glad for the smoke detector!!!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 19 06:21:50 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:21:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Restoration Rust
In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4lakla@email.mtu.edu>
References: <6t8mot$4lakla@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <E4D5219315934F07B7B2EB9DDFCD3E92@spider>

Glad you're ok. ...bill

================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Timothy H. Collins
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:14 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Restoration Rust

Speaking of rust. . .  the fire is out and there was very little damage.
Yesterday I was doing some electrolytic rust removal. I used a small 
diameter wire to suspend a part in the "soap soup" AND used that wire 
to make the electrical connection. Evidently the wire didn't handle 
the current and became hot enough to ignite the top rim of the 
plastic pail. While that was happening, I was outside the garage and 
knew nothing of what was going on until I heard the smoke detector 
going off. It wasn't a big fire but it was a plastic fire so the pail 
was melting and burning puddles were beginning to burn my work bench. 
I suppose the fire would have self extinguished when it reached the 
water level, but . . .  I have often activated the smoke alarm while 
heating nuts and bolts and even making some dust. Sometimes a pain in 
the butt. BUT yesterday I was very glad for the smoke detector!!!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 
_______________________________________________

From vern at srvinet.com  Fri Sep 19 06:52:07 2008
From: vern at srvinet.com (Vernon Olson)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:52:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line
Message-ID: <48D3A077.70701@srvinet.com>

Just proved one more of Franks statements.  the brand new
fuel line on my frogeye lasted about three hours.  My frogeye kept
quitting yesterday and I thought it was the fuel  pump, but nursed
it home.  Turned out the fuel line from the tank to the pump had
broken close to the clamp and letting air in.  Put injection line on
this time.
Vern

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 19 07:30:23 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:30:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool other Sprite? XQHS
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809190302g1a64f72fke0b09671e33de80d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430809190302g1a64f72fke0b09671e33de80d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D3A96F.9080605@comcast.net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> This is an interesting take on the Sprite I never heard of it XQHS it would
> be cool to see more images all the way around as it is mostly Sprite. I have
> got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now.
>
>   
Linda

I have More Healeys if you want to borrow it.
Buster and I also were privileged to see an actual photograph of the 
first Bugeye with it's external door and bonnet hinges.
The owner of AH Spares had a couple of personal black & white shots of 
him in the car.
The shots were taken by his girl friend during lunch when no one was in 
the shop.
He is still afraid of being caught with the photos 50 years later. I 
really wish he would show those photos to the world.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 19 07:36:27 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:36:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line
In-Reply-To: <48D3A077.70701@srvinet.com>
References: <48D3A077.70701@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <48D3AADB.8000805@comcast.net>

Vernon Olson wrote:
> Just proved one more of Franks statements.  the brand new
> fuel line on my frogeye lasted about three hours. 
If this happened to you and me, how many others?
Taking the crap back where you bought it does no good.
I have taken enough crap back where they want to give me my money back 
but I tell them I want the SOB that
made the thing so I can ram it down (or up) one of their orifices.
But that just never happens and I throw the POS at the clerk and and 
storm out.
I want the person responsible for making the useless stuff so he can be 
taught a lesson.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From healeymonster at fastwave.biz  Fri Sep 19 07:45:03 2008
From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:45:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More Healeys: Frog-eyes, Sprites and Midgets
Message-ID: <002401c91a5d$eb6fe770$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>

Hi, Lin
If you don't mind a water damaged copy, there's one for $29 on ABE
books.com

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=8&imagefield.
y=10&sts=t&tn=More+Healeys%2C+Frog-eyes%2C+Sprites+and+Midgets 

or 

http://tinyurl.com/539kvd 

Cheers,

Ed Townley
Southern NM, USA

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
I have got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now. 


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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Sep 19 08:38:42 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:38:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line
Message-ID: <bef701c91a65$69b071c0$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Frank,
 
Next time (you know there will be a next time) see if you can find out
who the distributor/manufacturer is. I'll bet the store manager knows
who he orders the stuff from, so start there, and work your way up the
food chain.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: 9/19/2008 9:35:27 AM
To: vern at srvinet.com
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line 

Vernon Olson wrote: 
> Just proved one more of Franks statements. the brand new 
> fuel line on my frogeye lasted about three hours. 
If this happened to you and me, how many others? 
Taking the crap back where you bought it does no good. 
I have taken enough crap back where they want to give me my money back 
but I tell them I want the SOB that 
made the thing so I can ram it down (or up) one of their orifices. 
But that just never happens and I throw the POS at the clerk and and 
storm out. 
I want the person responsible for making the useless stuff so he can be 
taught a lesson. 


-- 
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Toms River, NJ 
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Sep 19 09:57:12 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:57:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line & Fuel Filters
In-Reply-To: <48D3AADB.8000805@comcast.net>
References: <48D3A077.70701@srvinet.com> <48D3AADB.8000805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4le8p6@email.mtu.edu>

I noticed a recall notice for Puralator in-line fuel filters when I 
was at Advance Auto a few days ago. These are the small metal filters 
you see so often just before the carbs. I believe the recall 
mentioned they were made in China. If you use this type of filter, 
you better check this out.

At 09:36 AM 9/19/2008, Frank Clarici wrote:
>Vernon Olson wrote:
> > Just proved one more of Franks statements.  the brand new
> > fuel line on my frogeye lasted about three hours.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Sep 19 10:32:49 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:32:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line
In-Reply-To: <48D3AADB.8000805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080919163259.6F841187644@autox.team.net>

Frank,  If you want the best fuel line made check you local marine shop. Or
try www.defender.com do a search for Trident A1 hose.  This is not cheap at
around $3.50 a ft, but will be the last fuel line you buy for your car.
		Crash


Vernon Olson wrote:
> Just proved one more of Franks statements.  the brand new
> fuel line on my frogeye lasted about three hours. 
If this happened to you and me, how many others?
Taking the crap back where you bought it does no good.
I have taken enough crap back where they want to give me my money back 
but I tell them I want the SOB that
made the thing so I can ram it down (or up) one of their orifices.
But that just never happens and I throw the POS at the clerk and and 
storm out.
I want the person responsible for making the useless stuff so he can be 
taught a lesson.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 19 10:52:23 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool other Sprite? XQHS
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809190302g1a64f72fke0b09671e33de80d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <614204.22687.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
I think the WSM Sprite is really cool. About the best design i have seen yet.
I like it even better then the bugeye and other production models. Reminds me
of the Lotus elite Mk1 from the 60's.
 
Vigil 

--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool other Sprite? XQHS
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 3:02 AM

This is an interesting take on the Sprite I never heard of it XQHS it would
be cool to see more images all the way around as it is mostly Sprite. I have
got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now.

"*XQHS* was built by the Donald Healey Motor Company during 1962 to a Les
Ireland design, allegedly from earlier sketches by Gerry Coker. Built as a
prototype to assess the viability & performance advantages of fitting a
1100cc Coventry Climax engine, the car was also fitted with disc brakes on
all four wheels.
The chassis is original Sprite Mk1 modified to accept the special aluminium
outer bodywork & unique forward hinging bonnet made at the Donald Healey
Motor Company by Bill Buckingham."

http://www.austin-healey-club.com/Pages/AH50-woolmer-series.html

Lin
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 15:05:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:05:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Some humor for your day...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809191405x246c44e3g42b122641b42f9c5@mail.gmail.com>

Avast! Me 'ardies!  Here's wishin' ye a happy "International Talk Like a
Pirate Day", mateys!  AAarrrh!!   Buckle up yer swash and enjoy!

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 19 15:43:17 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:43:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] radio show
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809182035u16753e40k3ed885c4aafae687@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP23C86B7DBCF7F2AB7EC452B84E0@phx.gbl>
	<43840a7e0809182035u16753e40k3ed885c4aafae687@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP25A95463670D74B3CFDCFDB84E0@phx.gbl>

People here were guessing Burton Cummings ( of the Guess Who ).  They were
just messing with our minds though as it was "Eric" impersonating our Prime
Minister.

The video "Stephane Dion Gently Weeps" on this page
http://blog.rogersbroadcasting.com/docandwoody/
Was taken in my living room this morning.  Warning!!  It is painful to
listen to.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: September 18, 2008 11:36 PM
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] radio show

Cool!!  It's either Guy LaFleur or Patrick Roy!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> No lbc here.
>
>
>
> If anyone is interested, there will be a radio show broadcast from my
> living
> room tomorrow ( Friday ) AM, from 5:30 to 9am EST.
>
>
>
> http://www.chez106.com/mediaplayer/mediaPlayer2.jsp
>
>
>
> I don't have any idea what to expect.  They're saying things like . a
> special surprise guest known by all Canadians . high security.  I think
> they're just ( successfully ) messing with my mind.
>
>
>
> Robert D.
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Sep 19 15:48:51 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:48:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Some humor for your day...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809191405x246c44e3g42b122641b42f9c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0809191405x246c44e3g42b122641b42f9c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D3BBD3.6401.148D2E4@kk7ss.verizon.net>

But what shall we do for ".... a dead mans' throttle.."??


On 19 Sep 2008 at 16:05, Jim Johnson wrote:
> Avast! Me 'ardies!  Here's wishin' ye a happy "International Talk Like a
> Pirate Day", mateys!  AAarrrh!!   Buckle up yer swash and enjoy!

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 19 17:29:28 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:29:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool other Sprite? XQHS
In-Reply-To: <48D3A96F.9080605@comcast.net>
References: <205cef430809190302g1a64f72fke0b09671e33de80d@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D3A96F.9080605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430809191629u2b49bc20kd8fbe39f6c017106@mail.gmail.com>

Frank so the first Sprite Prototype had a lid on the trunk? What other
changes were there? I like a smooth top Bugeye bonnet with retractile lights
going down giving it a smooth race ready look, but the glass on top I don't
really like but find it oddly attractive.....strange huh? Yes when I see you
I would like to borrow your book make some scans and read the early Sprite
history.

Any other details on that first Sprite?
Lin

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
>> This is an interesting take on the Sprite I never heard of it XQHS it
>> would
>> be cool to see more images all the way around as it is mostly Sprite. I
>> have
>> got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now.
>>
>>
>>
> Linda
>
> I have More Healeys if you want to borrow it.
> Buster and I also were privileged to see an actual photograph of the first
> Bugeye with it's external door and bonnet hinges.
> The owner of AH Spares had a couple of personal black & white shots of him
> in the car.
> The shots were taken by his girl friend during lunch when no one was in the
> shop.
> He is still afraid of being caught with the photos 50 years later. I really
> wish he would show those photos to the world.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Sep 19 17:58:24 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:58:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Horn wiring
Message-ID: <D5073A3D-FAE3-4760-9331-BFD4F1E3CAD8@verizon.net>

My horn has two sets of two terminals.  I'm using just the one horn so  
do I wire to two of the terminals that are next to each other or one  
from each set?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 19 18:34:08 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:34:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Horn wiring
In-Reply-To: <D5073A3D-FAE3-4760-9331-BFD4F1E3CAD8@verizon.net>
References: <D5073A3D-FAE3-4760-9331-BFD4F1E3CAD8@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48D44500.6000503@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
> My horn has two sets of two terminals.  I'm using just the one horn so  
> do I wire to two of the terminals that are next to each other or one  
> from each set?
>
>
>   
Phil

Yes, 2 wires to the horn.
Early cars used brown and brown/black
Later used purple and purple/blk


-- 
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Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep 20 07:06:16 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:06:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite next weekend
Message-ID: <48D4F548.5040608@comcast.net>

My wife and I would like an idea as to how many people will be here next 
weekend for the Holy SHIT.
She needs to make food and arrange sleeping quarters for who ever is 
staying here.
All of this when I am immobile with a nailed leg which is seeing 
complications instead of improvements.
Just because I am crippled, doesn't mean this thing isn't going to happen.
Plane tickets have been bought, schedules have been adjusted, and I can 
just sit back and watch and point to where the tools or parts are ;)
So if you are coming, please let me know.
Also if you mention you might be here in person, remember to pick up 
your Holy Shirt, the rest have been packaged, just not sent yet but I'm 
working on that too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 08:55:33 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:55:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
In-Reply-To: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
References: <1599809707.20080913174704@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W430CDF53D6544F14D24A5DC2490@phx.gbl>

Modified 1098
2 in mains
ported head, big rump-rump cam :-)
not sure if overbored or not
lcb header
not sure if I'm gonna use the smoothcase that was in it, or the 1275 ribcase
that i've acquired
422 in it, but have a 3.9 in case

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

----------------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:47:04 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 948--1098---1275---Bigger?
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>   Survey time..
>
>
>   How many of us run 948s?  Modified 948s?
>
>   1098s       Modified 1098?
>
>   1275        Modified 1275?
>
>
>   BIGGER?
>
>
>   I'm just curious. ... At a dinner discussion with some very
>   knowledgeable people I was speculated about moving from my 1098 to a
>   1275 and it was asked WHY? and it was pointed out the the 1098 is a
>   GREAT engine. (especially for MY driving style?)....So ..
>
>   SURVEY?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>   I think, therefore I am, I think
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Sep 20 09:29:12 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:29:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
In-Reply-To: <003c01c91775$7cb32ee0$76198ca0$@com>
Message-ID: <20080920152914.SPNT1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Is anyone going to be there Sunday?  Where does everyone usually meet?

Thanks
Chris

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[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm.
Severin Thompson
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 3:56 PM
To: team-thicko at autox.team.net; vintage-race at autox.team.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; 'MGs'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend

Hey y'all,

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 11:34:47 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
Message-ID: <692927.47446.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm double-checking myself on the wiring for my coil. Is this correct? There are two leads that have always been there -  a positive to the + side and a negative to the - side. My new dizzy has just one lead - this should go to the negative side - right?

Also, with 12 volts in to the pos side, and the neg side lead back into the harness, I should read 12 volts if connecting a meter from ground to either terminal - right ?

And if I have twelve volts across the terminals I should get high voltage out the center hi volt. terminal - right? Well, I can't get a spark across a grounded plug. I tried two different coils. Do I have 'em wired wrong? 

Joe

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Sep 20 11:38:25 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:38:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold
Message-ID: <E248BD57-63DC-4D46-B691-D116090092DD@verizon.net>

If anyone has a 1275 exhaust manifold for sale please let me know.  I  
need one.

Also, when using the crush type washer exhaust seal,  should the  
flanges tighten all the way together?  That's how I broke an ear off  
of the one I am replacing.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 11:52:43 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:52:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
In-Reply-To: <692927.47446.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <692927.47446.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W46F10D90FD4DDD68A6D62ACA490@phx.gbl>

First- do you have the body of the coil grounded well? This is required.
Next- disconnect the distributor wire and now you should get 12v from either
side of the coil to ground. If the dist wire is hookled up then you may or may
not get 12v (depends on if the points are open or closed)

I will bet that either your coil isn't well enough grounded or your points are
dirty if you aren't getting spark.

Bill

 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:34:47 -0700> From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil> > I'm
double-checking myself on the wiring for my coil. Is this correct? There are
two leads that have always been there - a positive to the + side and a
negative to the - side. My new dizzy has just one lead - this should go to the
negative side - right?> > Also, with 12 volts in to the pos side, and the neg
side lead back into the harness, I should read 12 volts if connecting a meter
from ground to either terminal - right ?> > And if I have twelve volts across
the terminals I should get high voltage out the center hi volt. terminal -
right? Well, I can't get a spark across a grounded plug. I tried two different
coils. Do I have 'em wired wrong? > > Joe>
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 11:54:00 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:54:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold
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NO!!!!!!
Just tight enough to stop the noise, no further.
Bill> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:38:25 -0400> From: nases at verizon.net> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold> > If
anyone has a 1275 exhaust manifold for sale please let me know. I > need one.>
> Also, when using the crush type washer exhaust seal, should the > flanges
tighten all the way together? That's how I broke an ear off > of the one I am
replacing.> > Phil Nase> Quakertown, PA>
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 11:55:53 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:55:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold
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Also be SURE to attach a brace from the exhaust pipe to the trans/engine
flange, this will keep the connection tight for years instead of just hours.
Bill> From: billmasq at hotmail.com> To: nases at verizon.net;
spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:54:00 -0700> Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold> > NO!!!!!!> Just tight enough to stop the
noise, no further.> Bill> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:38:25 -0400> From:
nases at verizon.net> To:> spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spridgets] 1275
exhaust manifold> > If> anyone has a 1275 exhaust manifold for sale please let
me know. I > need one.>> > Also, when using the crush type washer exhaust
seal, should the > flanges> tighten all the way together? That's how I broke
an ear off > of the one I am> replacing.> > Phil Nase> Quakertown, PA>>
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 12:06:39 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:06:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold
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OK- looks like Alan doesn't want the shocks that I took off of my car when I
put the new ones on so if anyone wants some good (used) shocks (all 4) just
tell me and I'll send them.
Peter C said that he doesn't want the cores back so that is not an issue now.

Bill
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 15:05:40 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:05:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W46F10D90FD4DDD68A6D62ACA490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <19112.52095.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I get 12 volts on either side. The points are brand new. I still get no spark. I actually get 12 volts at the primary coil wire center post.


--- On Sat, 9/20/08, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
> To: kidjoevid at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 6:52 PM
> First- do you have the body of the coil grounded well? This
> is required.
> Next- disconnect the distributor wire and now you should
> get 12v from either side of the coil to ground. If the dist
> wire is hookled up then you may or may not get 12v (depends
> on if the points are open or closed)
>  
> I will bet that either your coil isn't well enough
> grounded or your points are dirty if you aren't getting
> spark.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:34:47 -0700> From:
> kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil> > I'm
> double-checking myself on the wiring for my coil. Is this
> correct? There are two leads that have always been there - a
> positive to the + side and a negative to the - side. My new
> dizzy has just one lead - this should go to the negative
> side - right?> > Also, with 12 volts in to the pos
> side, and the neg side lead back into the harness, I should
> read 12 volts if connecting a meter from ground to either
> terminal - right ?> > And if I have twelve volts
> across the terminals I should get high voltage out the
> center hi volt. terminal - right? Well, I can't get a
> spark across a grounded plug. I tried two different coils.
> Do I have 'em wired wrong? > > Joe>
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Sep 20 15:21:08 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:21:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
In-Reply-To: <19112.52095.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080920212110.YDMX1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Do you have the points wired correctly inside the distributor?  Nothing
grounding itself off somewhere?

Been through that one myself

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Lansing
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:06 PM
To: Bill Masquelier; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring to coil

I get 12 volts on either side. The points are brand new. I still get no
spark. I actually get 12 volts at the primary coil wire center post.


--- On Sat, 9/20/08, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] wiring to coil
> To: kidjoevid at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 6:52 PM
> First- do you have the body of the coil grounded well? This
> is required.
> Next- disconnect the distributor wire and now you should
> get 12v from either side of the coil to ground. If the dist
> wire is hookled up then you may or may not get 12v (depends
> on if the points are open or closed)
>  
> I will bet that either your coil isn't well enough
> grounded or your points are dirty if you aren't getting
> spark.
>  
> Bill
>  
>  Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:34:47 -0700> From:
> kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] wiring to coil> > I'm
> double-checking myself on the wiring for my coil. Is this
> correct? There are two leads that have always been there - a
> positive to the + side and a negative to the - side. My new
> dizzy has just one lead - this should go to the negative
> side - right?> > Also, with 12 volts in to the pos
> side, and the neg side lead back into the harness, I should
> read 12 volts if connecting a meter from ground to either
> terminal - right ?> > And if I have twelve volts
> across the terminals I should get high voltage out the
> center hi volt. terminal - right? Well, I can't get a
> spark across a grounded plug. I tried two different coils.
> Do I have 'em wired wrong? > > Joe>
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From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 20 17:52:19 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:52:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] radio show
Message-ID: <327576.57199.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Could you just imagine The Real Don Steele from 93/KHJ announcing that! (If you were around in So. Cal back in the 60's and in the early 1990's on K-Earth, you'd know who he was)  "Big demand from the Boss Line"...and Tina Delgado is alive...alive, too, of course.

Mike Rivers 
1961 MG Midget 1275

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 20 18:05:38 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:05:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
References: <20080920152914.SPNT1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <BE436C2155D1436FA7E2EC7E37275F38@Larry>

Chris,

Ron Soave, Peter C and I will be in the upper paddock.  If you know where 
the gas pumps/timing sheets are, we are in the first row directly north of 
there.

WST was there today, but I'm not sure if he is coming back tomorrow.  He was 
at the bottom of the hill opposite turn 5.  He had a red square body Sprite 
and a white bugeye race car.

The Spridgets go out at 9:45 for their group 2 race and the Spridget feature 
race is at 1:10.

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend


Is anyone going to be there Sunday?  Where does everyone usually meet?

Thanks
Chris

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend

Hey y'all,
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 20 19:28:02 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:28:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold
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Message-ID: <BLU107-W438B27AF1FD90C5A85F6FCCA480@phx.gbl>

Alan does want them so they are now gone to him.
Bill> From: billmasq at hotmail.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 20
Sep 2008 11:06:39 -0700> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 exhaust manifold> > OK-
looks like Alan doesn't want the shocks that I took off of my car when I> put
the new ones on so if anyone wants some good (used) shocks (all 4) just> tell
me and I'll send them.> Peter C said that he doesn't want the cores back so
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From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Sat Sep 20 20:00:28 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:00:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring connectors
Message-ID: <50453.71.181.1.46.1221962428.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

I'm installing the new wiring in a bugeye and find that all my lights
don't have the "bullet connectors" that fit into the light fixtures. It's
a little extended dome thing with a hole in the end to put the wire
through and then bend the bare wire over and push it into a loop type
receiver.  Vic Brit has them, but they're 1.95 each which seems a bit
rediculous.  Are they available at parts stores, hardware stores, Home
Depot, etc.?
Thanks for the help.
Dick B. in NH where the leaves are beginning to turn and winter isn't far
away

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 20 20:08:39 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring connectors
In-Reply-To: <50453.71.181.1.46.1221962428.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50453.71.181.1.46.1221962428.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <4AEC0586CA6E4E56B5EDDBC9E2D344D9@spider>

I ran into this about 10-15 years ago. Yes, but there are two different
sizes and it is hard to tell the diameter difference by eye. Napa. ...bill
===========================================================
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:00 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring connectors

I'm installing the new wiring in a bugeye and find that all my lights
don't have the "bullet connectors" that fit into the light fixtures. It's
a little extended dome thing with a hole in the end to put the wire
through and then bend the bare wire over and push it into a loop type
receiver.  Vic Brit has them, but they're 1.95 each which seems a bit
rediculous.  Are they available at parts stores, hardware stores, Home
Depot, etc.?
Thanks for the help.
Dick B. in NH where the leaves are beginning to turn and winter isn't far
away
_______________________________________________

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Sep 21 00:00:51 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:00:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
Message-ID: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>

OK Folks I am out of ideas.

At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent  
where the gas is coming from.  It seems like it has to be the float  
bowl overflows since all the lines are good and if they are leaking  
speed should not make any difference.   For some years I have been  
fighting grit from the gas tank - - powder coater blasted it with out  
taping the openings after the tank had been cleaned.  Ran lots of  
paint thinner through the tank before reinstalling, added two in line  
fuel filters and grit still got through. After five sets of filters  
and float bowl jets and needles I thought the problem had been licked  
- - no more over flow at idle.  The pump pressure is also correct,  
check last week.  But still smell gas at freeway speeds.

Thoughts???

Thanks

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 21 06:46:03 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:46:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bob,
My book says 1.5 to 2.5 psi.  Is that the "correct" yours is running at? 
Other than that possibility, sounds like you have them covered.  Could there
be an issue internally with the carbs that is allowing gas out the float bowl
overflows at too low a pressure?  If so you may be able to check by routing
the overflows to a temporary catch can.  At least that would identify where
the smell is coming from. 
 
Of course, this is an uneducated guess by a guy who has generally considered
carbs and trannys as magic boxes where mysteries of the universe are
performed...  Well maybe I'm not quite that bad, but I somehow have never
spent much time working with the innards of either.
 
 - David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2008, 1:00 AM

OK Folks I am out of ideas.

At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent
where the gas is coming from.  It seems like it has to be the float
bowl overflows since all the lines are good and if they are leaking
speed should not make any difference.   For some years I have been
fighting grit from the gas tank - - powder coater blasted it with out
taping the openings after the tank had been cleaned.  Ran lots of
paint thinner through the tank before reinstalling, added two in line
fuel filters and grit still got through. After five sets of filters
and float bowl jets and needles I thought the problem had been licked
- - no more over flow at idle.  The pump pressure is also correct,
check last week.  But still smell gas at freeway speeds.

Thoughts???

Thanks

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition
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From pelliott at innercite.com  Sun Sep 21 06:53:22 2008
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:53:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <06dd01c91be9$09232d40$1b6987c0$@com>

"At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent
where the gas is coming from."

Do you smell it when you have a top on? Could it be coming from the other
direction? Maybe a small leak around the filler neck? Or at the pump? 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 21 07:06:45 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <06dd01c91be9$09232d40$1b6987c0$@com>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com><596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<06dd01c91be9$09232d40$1b6987c0$@com>
Message-ID: <1F2A389377DD4749BFBF5954F627ADB9@spider>

Double check your fuel line also. It does get old, especially if you grabbed
a piece of non-fuel like in the past (me, me.) Also, the VW-style line with
the woven fabric cover can hide minor leaks. This can wick thru and be very
hard to locate without replacing all such line. ...bill in oregon
===========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:53 AM
To: 'Kitterer Bob'
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas leaks

"At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent
where the gas is coming from."

Do you smell it when you have a top on? Could it be coming from the other
direction? Maybe a small leak around the filler neck? Or at the pump? 
_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 07:46:56 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:46:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>

You say that you have run thru a number of fuel filters- are they all the
common "paper innards" type?
You may do well to get one of the sintered type ones which filter down to 5
microns (.0005") or maybe 8.
This is the type that JC Whitney used to sell that had a glass tube and metal
ends and could be disassembled and cleaned. They work much better than the
paper ones.
Bill

> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: bkitterer at mac.com
> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:00:51 -0700
> Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
>
> OK Folks I am out of ideas.
>
> At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent
> where the gas is coming from.  It seems like it has to be the float
> bowl overflows since all the lines are good and if they are leaking
> speed should not make any difference.   For some years I have been
> fighting grit from the gas tank - - powder coater blasted it with out
> taping the openings after the tank had been cleaned.  Ran lots of
> paint thinner through the tank before reinstalling, added two in line
> fuel filters and grit still got through. After five sets of filters
> and float bowl jets and needles I thought the problem had been licked
> - - no more over flow at idle.  The pump pressure is also correct,
> check last week.  But still smell gas at freeway speeds.
>
> Thoughts???
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 07:50:56 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:50:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>

--See here:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/Gas-Fuel-Filters/600002018.jcw?in_dim_search=1
Bill

> From: billmasq at hotmail.com
> To: bkitterer at mac.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:46:56 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
>
> You say that you have run thru a number of fuel filters- are they all the
> common "paper innards" type?
> You may do well to get one of the sintered type ones which filter down to 5
> microns (.0005") or maybe 8.
> This is the type that JC Whitney used to sell that had a glass tube and
metal
> ends and could be disassembled and cleaned. They work much better than the
> paper ones.
> Bill
>
> > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> > From: bkitterer at mac.com
> > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:00:51 -0700
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
> >
> > OK Folks I am out of ideas.
> >
> > At freeway speeds I can smell gas but when I stop it is not apparent
> > where the gas is coming from.  It seems like it has to be the float
> > bowl overflows since all the lines are good and if they are leaking
> > speed should not make any difference.   For some years I have been
> > fighting grit from the gas tank - - powder coater blasted it with out
> > taping the openings after the tank had been cleaned.  Ran lots of
> > paint thinner through the tank before reinstalling, added two in line
> > fuel filters and grit still got through. After five sets of filters
> > and float bowl jets and needles I thought the problem had been licked
> > - - no more over flow at idle.  The pump pressure is also correct,
> > check last week.  But still smell gas at freeway speeds.
> >
> > Thoughts???
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bob Kitterer
> >
> > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> > 2000 Miata Special Edition
> > _______________________________________________
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 21 08:00:39 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:00:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4DD7D03ECEF74304BB4A670E76C7CF56@spider>

Also available at NAPA. There are three sizes depending on the fuel line
i.d.   ...bill in oregon
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Bill Masquelier
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:47 AM
To: Kitterer Bob; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas leaks

You say that you have run thru a number of fuel filters- are they all the
common "paper innards" type?
You may do well to get one of the sintered type ones which filter down to 5
microns (.0005") or maybe 8.
This is the type that JC Whitney used to sell that had a glass tube and
metal
ends and could be disassembled and cleaned. They work much better than the
paper ones.
Bill

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Sep 21 08:08:02 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:08:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
	<BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <427733598.20080921070802@pacifier.com>

Hello Bill,

     I get that gas smell coming in when going down a steep grade
     using compression braking. (like coming down from Mt. Rushmore) i
     have just assumed that the pump is pumping (maybe more pressure
     from the gravity feed of the tank too?....NAH!) more gas than the
     floats can handle at that kind of angle and it was flowing out
     the top of the carbs. .. I have a pressure regulator with gauge
     installed so that SHOULDN'T be the cause.

     ??

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I like camping," said Tom intently.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 08:10:07 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:10:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] rustycar rebuild
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl> 
	<BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W493D33528A397B62A87F5ACA480@phx.gbl>

I can't find an old link to add to but---
for the guy in Tennessee who is restoring his old, rusted out Midget-- here is
another option to lift the radiator and R&R everything underneath:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/847389336.html

Bill



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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 21 08:18:14 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:18:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <427733598.20080921070802@pacifier.com>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
	<BLU107-W39569E6DD335D5560E290CCA480@phx.gbl>
	<427733598.20080921070802@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W3A279BFEE94955B6E8675CA480@phx.gbl>

I will bet that in this case you are not seeing carb overflow but that you are
running an "idle" mixture (or more) and that the rich mixture is not burning
completely and you are smelling the very rich exhaust (remember that the
airflow in a Spridget is anything but smooth}.
Bill

> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:08:02 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: billmasq at hotmail.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
>
> Hello Bill,
>
>      I get that gas smell coming in when going down a steep grade
>      using compression braking. (like coming down from Mt. Rushmore) i
>      have just assumed that the pump is pumping (maybe more pressure
>      from the gravity feed of the tank too?....NAH!) more gas than the
>      floats can handle at that kind of angle and it was flowing out
>      the top of the carbs. .. I have a pressure regulator with gauge
>      installed so that SHOULDN'T be the cause.
>
>      ??
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>       * "I like camping," said Tom intently.
>

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From ron.corry at iol.ie  Sun Sep 21 15:54:37 2008
From: ron.corry at iol.ie (ron.corry at iol.ie)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets]  Sprite's First Race Win Jul-1958:- Dunboyne, Ireland.
Message-ID: <380-220089021215437851@M2W031.mail2web.com>

Hi Gals and Guys,

Long time since I posted here. Been lurking though.

Those of you who are keen readers of the history of the Spridget will know
that
the Sprite Mk. 1 had its first race victory driven by the journalist, John
Anstice-Brown, on Saturday 12-July, 1958 in Ireland at the triangular road
circuit at Dunboyne, Co. Meath.

Next weekend, there is a meeting at Dunboyne to commerate the races which
were held at that circuit over the years 1958 - 1967. All the details, and
more, are here...

www.dunboynemotorclub.com

and...

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/2008/07/13/story34351.asp

Also, a book of photographs from the period has been published in Ireland.
It has a foreword by the same John Anstice-Brown after all these years. [I
have now forgiven him for cuting off the headlight "bumps"]. A photo of him
in the Sprite (# 40) leaving the line is included, along with many other
photos of Sprites, Cooper S's, TRs etc.

Details of the book are available by e-mail from:-

bespokebooks at eircom.net

and it may be ordered from...

www.printworld.ie

No commercial interest; I paid Euro 30 for my copy last Friday. I just
think that this is a great record of the era when "our" cars raced, and
won, for real. Unfortunately, I was not at the two first Dunboyle meetings,
(and so missed the Sprite's win), but managed to get to the rest.

Thought you might like this information.

BTW, Gaydon UK last May was only terrific. Best Spridget day ever.

Ron
59-LD-1 AN5 "Oggibip"











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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 21 17:22:46 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:22:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Intake ID
Message-ID: <46F17F0382D247DF820C5B14E2F5E9AF@HomeComputer>

Going thru my box for SU carbs, I have an intake with cast number 12G299
with 594 stamped above the 299.

It put the carbs on a narrower 5-1/2" spacing.

Anyone know what it might have come off of?

Thanks,

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 21 18:06:02 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:06:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Lightning Bolt
Message-ID: <C2BE9EF57C764E8F951365DCFCBFBE6D@HomeComputer>

Does anyone have a sketch or the approximate dimensions of the lightning
bolt one the Sprite horn push?

Thanks,

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Sep 21 20:15:54 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:15:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Intake ID
In-Reply-To: <46F17F0382D247DF820C5B14E2F5E9AF@HomeComputer>
References: <46F17F0382D247DF820C5B14E2F5E9AF@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <48D6FFDA.8090203@comcast.net>

Dean Swanson wrote:
> Going thru my box for SU carbs, I have an intake with cast number 12G299
> with 594 stamped above the 299.
>
> It put the carbs on a narrower 5-1/2" spacing.
>
>
>   
Not sure about the part numbers or widths, but a narrower intake is most 
likely from a Mini.
They are a touch narrower at the carb end.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 21 21:22:36 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
Message-ID: <429152.89688.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 9/21/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Westfield Lotus Eleven 

Not that it matters, but I meant Eastlake.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Sep 21 22:05:13 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:05:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <596366.9094.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4317DEA0-AB27-4F75-9F46-7BB45622A85A@mac.com>

This is a 3 psi pump but I have used it for years with no problem.   
Guess I could through in a pressure regulator and see if the problem  
goes away.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 21, 2008, at 5:46 AM, David Booker wrote:

> Bob,
> My book says 1.5 to 2.5 psi.  Is that the "correct" yours is  
> running at?

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Sep 21 22:10:42 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:10:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
	<BLU107-W5E94C32EEB7F6556D3E2BCA480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <252CED51-FC4B-4256-B07C-B83A2DF5A64F@mac.com>

These are inline filters I first saw them on VW's, always available  
at any auto parts store.  They use to be in metal cans but those have  
been replace with plastic.  Have not seen a sintered unit in years  
but also have not looked.  Good suggestion though.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 21, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote:

> You say that you have run thru a number of fuel filters- are they  
> all the common "paper innards" type?
> You may do well to get one of the sintered type ones which filter  
> down to 5 microns (.0005") or maybe 8.
> This is the type that JC Whitney used to sell that had a glass tube  
> and metal ends and could be disassembled and cleaned. They work  
> much better than the paper ones.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Sep 21 22:19:16 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:19:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leaks
In-Reply-To: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
References: <9720AFA8-A833-446D-91DA-CB69CE9D196A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <CB59ABCC-9C9B-4A03-8347-1F8D3AF2E211@mac.com>

Thanks to every ones responses, suggestions and reference material -  
- - this list is great as always.

It will be Wednesday before I can get back to the car and will post  
the results - - good or bad :-)


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 21 22:29:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:29:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
Message-ID: <871814.71308.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The weekend started horribly with the tragic death of Dr. Surjit Hermon in his Westfield Lotus Eleven on Friday, but I think everyone had as good a weekend as possible, especially the Spridget people. Special thanks to WST for his efforts in the 50th Spridget celebration. His big band sounded great last night, and the re-enactment of the original road course through Elkhart was a lot of fun with WST's original time capsule Bugeye race car driven by Peter Egan leading the way. I had the best race I can remember dicing with John Salisbury, one the SCCA guys who ran with us, and Dan Parsons and his horsepower machine. It was WST's idea to allow the current SCCA cars run with us, and it was a nice twist. John Salisbury Sr. commented to me that he hadn't seen as great a Sprite race in 20 years. In that Spridget only race, the three of us finished within nine 1/100ths of a second. Just incredible fun. Crash, your ex car / Lieb's was passing by when were taking
group photos with Peter Egan and we flagged David down, so look for it in Road and Track!

Thanks to all who came out, especially Larry Daniels and Peter C. as always for the support. Except for a distributor that popped out in practice, White Trash ran like a Timex all weekend.

Ron

--- On Sat, 9/20/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
> To: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 7:05 PM
> Chris,
>
> Ron Soave, Peter C and I will be in the upper paddock.  If
> you know where
> the gas pumps/timing sheets are, we are in the first row
> directly north of
> there.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Sep 21 23:07:08 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:07:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
In-Reply-To: <871814.71308.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <871814.71308.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809212207n54723250wa3bf6ba8f14038eb@mail.gmail.com>

Pictures, Ron.  You got pictures?  We need to see pictures!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The weekend started horribly with the tragic death of Dr. Surjit Hermon in
> his Westfield Lotus Eleven on Friday, but I think everyone had as good a
> weekend as possible, especially the Spridget people. Special thanks to WST
> for his efforts in the 50th Spridget celebration. His big band sounded great
> last night, and the re-enactment of the original road course through Elkhart
> was a lot of fun with WST's original time capsule Bugeye race car driven by
> Peter Egan leading the way. I had the best race I can remember dicing with
> John Salisbury, one the SCCA guys who ran with us, and Dan Parsons and his
> horsepower machine. It was WST's idea to allow the current SCCA cars run
> with us, and it was a nice twist. John Salisbury Sr. commented to me that he
> hadn't seen as great a Sprite race in 20 years. In that Spridget only race,
> the three of us finished within nine 1/100ths of a second. Just incredible
> fun. Crash, your ex car / Lieb's was passing by when were taking
> group photos with Peter Egan and we flagged David down, so look for it in
> Road and Track!
>
> Thanks to all who came out, especially Larry Daniels and Peter C. as always
> for the support. Except for a distributor that popped out in practice, White
> Trash ran like a Timex all weekend.
>
> Ron
>
> --- On Sat, 9/20/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
> > To: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 7:05 PM
> > Chris,
> >
> > Ron Soave, Peter C and I will be in the upper paddock.  If
> > you know where
> > the gas pumps/timing sheets are, we are in the first row
> > directly north of
> > there.
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From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Mon Sep 22 04:16:40 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:16:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809180325q7d367623l864073365d5ac206@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <117558.64065.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

found it!

pity it's so bloody tiny....the photo i mean...not the bugeye.

http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?codeadof.htm




--- On Thu, 18/9/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
> To: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au
> Received: Thursday, 18 September, 2008, 8:25 PM
> Wow I would love to have a photo of that Andy,
> Yes pleas look through your HD for that.
> Thanks a ton,
> Linda
>
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Andy Webster
> <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>wrote:
>
> > There was a photo of a Mk1 prototype that someone
> posted a link to about a
> > year ago...
> > I cant remember exactly what the site was... but the
> photo had the lights
> > in the retracted position...pointing skywards
> > I'll look thru my sent messages, because i am sure
> i forwarded the link to
> > my brother
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 16/9/08, Linda Grunthaner
> <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Linda Grunthaner
> <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Coker's email
> > > To: "Spridgets Digest"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > > Received: Tuesday, 16 September, 2008, 8:14 PM
> > > List,
> > > Does anyone have Jerry Coker's email address?
> I want to
> > > ask him some
> > > questions about his original Sprite design
> without the
> > > headlights on top but
> > > retractable. I hear the original design may have
> been like
> > > the Porsche 928
> > > GT with the glass on top
> > > http://www.joe-ks.com/images/HIS928.jpg? I cannot
> > > say I like the glass up design or not just yet
> because I
> > > have seen and
> > > somewhere have the photo of a smooth Bugeye
> bonnet (the
> > > owner had lost the
> > > headlights to an accident) with small headlights
> in the
> > > grill and the smooth
> > > top looked cool and futuristic but clearly it is
> great to
> > > have her eyes open
> > > : )
> > >
> > > I think asking Jerry will put this to rest as I
> am hoping
> > > after my dad's
> > > estate is settled and I am out of this new
> overwhelming
> > > debt to keep his
> > > COOP afloat I will (with the help of
> manufactures) modify
> > > my Bugeye bonnet
> > > to have that same design. I am hoping to get
> Jerry's
> > > blessing on this
> > > project and if it works out without me loosing my
> shirt put
> > > it on a tub.
> > > Linda
> > >
> > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
> > > _______________________________________________
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Sep 22 05:33:55 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:33:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809212207n54723250wa3bf6ba8f14038eb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <871814.71308.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0809212207n54723250wa3bf6ba8f14038eb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <012301c91ca7$1bb4a6f0$531df4d0$@com>

I've got some pictures of the race to go thru today.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 12:07 AM
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF this weekend

Pictures, Ron.  You got pictures?  We need to see pictures!

Cheers!!
Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 08:54:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:54:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3441DD566C0C04C037F18AB84B0@phx.gbl>

Can anyone tell me if this has an LBC application?

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081211.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081212.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081213.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081215.jpg

It was found in the trunk of a Midget and I was told that it looked like a 
1500 gearbox.  I didn't know any better, so, it is in my garage.  Looking at 
Moss' site ... it doesn't appear to look like a 1500 gearbox.

Robert D.

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Sep 22 08:57:44 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3441DD566C0C04C037F18AB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <092220081457.27674.48D7B268000973BF00006C1A22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Obviously Triumph.
 -------------- Original message from "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>: --------------


> Can anyone tell me if this has an LBC application?
> 
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081211.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081212.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081213.jpg
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081215.jpg
> 
> It was found in the trunk of a Midget and I was told that it looked like a 
> 1500 gearbox.  I didn't know any better, so, it is in my garage.  Looking at 
> Moss' site ... it doesn't appear to look like a 1500 gearbox.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 22 09:11:14 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <092220081457.27674.48D7B268000973BF00006C1A22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <092220081457.27674.48D7B268000973BF00006C1A22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <48D7B592.2080306@comcast.net>

tinydog at snet.net wrote:
> tinydog sez:
>
> Obviously Triumph.
>
>   
Midget 1500 or Spitefire


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 09:40:08 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:40:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3441DD566C0C04C037F18AB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37794B5D1356ADBD14F81BB84B0@phx.gbl>

It does look similar to a Midget 1500 gearbox, but using these pictures as a 
guide, it doesn't seem the same ...

http://www.boicey.com/midget/pics/midget_overdrive_day_two_3.jpg
http://www.boicey.com/midget/pics/midget_overdrive_day_two_2.jpg

( from the main page: http://www.boicey.com/midget/midget_overdrive.html )


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>

Can anyone tell me if this has an LBC application?

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081211.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081212.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081213.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081215.jpg

It was found in the trunk of a Midget and I was told that it looked like a
1500 gearbox.  I didn't know any better, so, it is in my garage.  Looking at
Moss' site ... it doesn't appear to look like a 1500 gearbox.

Robert D.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 09:54:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:54:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F37794B5D1356ADBD14F81BB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39BEF2C55C5B2F01AB4D8BB84B0@phx.gbl>

I finally found one that looks similar!

Moss UK has a blowup of a 1300 Spitfire gearbox that looks close.
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=2918

Now to find someone to take it out of my garage! :)
I don't think that I would ever have a use for it.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>

It does look similar to a Midget 1500 gearbox, but using these pictures as a
guide, it doesn't seem the same ...

http://www.boicey.com/midget/pics/midget_overdrive_day_two_3.jpg
http://www.boicey.com/midget/pics/midget_overdrive_day_two_2.jpg

( from the main page: http://www.boicey.com/midget/midget_overdrive.html )


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>

Can anyone tell me if this has an LBC application?

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081211.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081212.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081213.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/092020081215.jpg

It was found in the trunk of a Midget and I was told that it looked like a
1500 gearbox.  I didn't know any better, so, it is in my garage.  Looking at
Moss' site ... it doesn't appear to look like a 1500 gearbox.

Robert D.
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 10:11:45 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:11:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3441DD566C0C04C037F18AB84B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F3441DD566C0C04C037F18AB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809220911q71b61753jedc610c46d92ddd1@mail.gmail.com>

 I think that is the famed White Elephant transmission.  If you want
to get rid of it, the best way is to put it in the trunk of a car you
are selling.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 10:31:13 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:31:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910809220911q71b61753jedc610c46d92ddd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F359446991A54CF8316A55AB84B0@phx.gbl>

:)  We have a scrapyard nearby that pays by the pound.

It was found in the trunk of a '69 Midget.

One of the things that makes me a packrat is trying to find the right home 
for things that "someone" could use.

I'll list it on our local website and see if someone wants to give me $5. 
for it.

Robert D.
PS:  Since when do elephants have transmissions?  ;)

----Original Message Follows----
From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>

I think that is the famed White Elephant transmission.  If you want
to get rid of it, the best way is to put it in the trunk of a car you
are selling.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 10:53:05 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:53:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F359446991A54CF8316A55AB84B0@phx.gbl>
References: <5f00d9910809220911q71b61753jedc610c46d92ddd1@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F359446991A54CF8316A55AB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809220953ib1e1ce2j5c40209557a62476@mail.gmail.com>

Set it out by the street with a sign on it that says "For Sale $500".  It
will be gone the next morning.  :-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> :)  We have a scrapyard nearby that pays by the pound.
>
> It was found in the trunk of a '69 Midget.
>
> One of the things that makes me a packrat is trying to find the right home
> for things that "someone" could use.
>
> I'll list it on our local website and see if someone wants to give me $5.
> for it.
>
> Robert D.
> PS:  Since when do elephants have transmissions?  ;)
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
>
> I think that is the famed White Elephant transmission.  If you want
> to get rid of it, the best way is to put it in the trunk of a car you
> are selling.
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 11:05:37 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809220953ib1e1ce2j5c40209557a62476@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39E0D5AE7F1D29E35BC5A4B84B0@phx.gbl>

Yeah, I believe it.  That's why I ask $5.  I prefer to find a good home for 
it rather than have someone scrap it.

RD

----Original Message Follows----

Set it out by the street with a sign on it that says "For Sale $500".  It
will be gone the next morning.  :-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

 > :)  We have a scrapyard nearby that pays by the pound.
 >
 > It was found in the trunk of a '69 Midget.
 >
 > One of the things that makes me a packrat is trying to find the right 
home
 > for things that "someone" could use.
 >
 > I'll list it on our local website and see if someone wants to give me $5.
 > for it.
 >
 > Robert D.
 > PS:  Since when do elephants have transmissions?  ;)
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
 >
 > I think that is the famed White Elephant transmission.  If you want
 > to get rid of it, the best way is to put it in the trunk of a car you
 > are selling.
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 22 11:26:05 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:26:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F359446991A54CF8316A55AB84B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F359446991A54CF8316A55AB84B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48D7D52D.4050809@comcast.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:
>
> PS:  Since when do elephants have transmissions?  ;)
>
>   
Honda make an elephant, that ugly thing with 4 gray legs.
It MUST have a transmission. ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 22 11:43:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:43:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
In-Reply-To: <48D7D52D.4050809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37BC6CB8FD28A7B9C7FA65B84B0@phx.gbl>

... and, it is sold to some guy with a '69 Spitfire project.

From cclabaw at juno.com  Mon Sep 22 13:20:55 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:20:55 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
Message-ID: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

A senior citizen drove his brand new Jaguar convertible out of the dealership.
Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing
through what little hair he had left.

'Amazing,' he thought as he flew down I-5, pushing the pedal even more.

Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights
flashing and siren blaring.  He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120.
Suddenly he thought, 'What am I doing?  I'm too old for this,' and pulled over
to await the trooper's arrival.

Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at his
watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes.  Today is Friday.  If you
can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let you
go."

The old gentleman paused.  Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a State
Trooper.  I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.

Clay L.




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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 14:34:25 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:34:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] video
In-Reply-To: <162838.54930.qm@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <162838.54930.qm@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809221334w97c48c5u83cd2b7b45cb1b07@mail.gmail.com>

     This is pretty funny - even though it took me two times through to
figure it out!

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=33788

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Sep 22 16:07:58 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:07:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
In-Reply-To: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <008101c91cff$abffb530$03ff1f90$@herder@cox.net>

Okay, what is he driving?

Starts out in a Jaguar, gets stopped in a Corvette?

;^)



-----Original Message-----

A senior citizen drove his brand new Jaguar convertible out of the
dealership.
Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing
through what little hair he had left.

'Amazing,' he thought as he flew down I-5, pushing the pedal even more.

Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights
flashing and siren blaring.  He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120.
Suddenly he thought, 'What am I doing?  I'm too old for this,' and pulled
over
to await the trooper's arrival.

Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at his
watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes.  Today is Friday.  If you
can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let you
go."

The old gentleman paused.  Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a
State
Trooper.  I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 22 16:14:40 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:14:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
In-Reply-To: <008101c91cff$abffb530$03ff1f90$@herder@cox.net>
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
	<008101c91cff$abffb530$03ff1f90$@herder@cox.net>
Message-ID: <296B21292E6E4244A0707E9C86479B3E@spider>

It was a convertible.  :-)

======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Paul Herder
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 3:08 PM
To: cclabaw at juno.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers

Okay, what is he driving?

Starts out in a Jaguar, gets stopped in a Corvette?

;^)

===============================================================

-----Original Message-----

A senior citizen drove his brand new Jaguar convertible out of the
dealership.
Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing
through what little hair he had left.

'Amazing,' he thought as he flew down I-5, pushing the pedal even more.

Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights
flashing and siren blaring.  He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120.
Suddenly he thought, 'What am I doing?  I'm too old for this,' and pulled
over
to await the trooper's arrival.

Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at his
watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes.  Today is Friday.  If you
can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let you
go."

The old gentleman paused.  Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a
State
Trooper.  I thought you were bringing her back."

"Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.
_______________________________________________

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Sep 22 16:15:08 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:15:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
	<008101c91cff$abffb530$03ff1f90$@herder@cox.net>
Message-ID: <A0001486464E4C36AF44C4BD769D6F19@personal>

Us old guys are trickey and think fast.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Herder" <p.herder at cox.net>
To: <cclabaw at juno.com>; <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers


> Okay, what is he driving?
>
> Starts out in a Jaguar, gets stopped in a Corvette?
>
> ;^)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A senior citizen drove his brand new Jaguar convertible out of the
> dealership.
> Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind 
> blowing
> through what little hair he had left.
>
> 'Amazing,' he thought as he flew down I-5, pushing the pedal even more.
>
> Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights
> flashing and siren blaring.  He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120.
> Suddenly he thought, 'What am I doing?  I'm too old for this,' and pulled
> over
> to await the trooper's arrival.
>
> Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at 
> his
> watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes.  Today is Friday.  If 
> you
> can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let 
> you
> go."
>
> The old gentleman paused.  Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a
> State
> Trooper.  I thought you were bringing her back."
>
> "Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep 22 16:17:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:17:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com><008101c91cff$abffb530$03ff1f90$@herder@cox.net>
	<296B21292E6E4244A0707E9C86479B3E@spider>
Message-ID: <4D4D17BE46774E1A9217EF4201DBCB79@NilesAD.von.gov>

By that time the guy had forgotten what he was driving. Happens when you are 
old...

> Okay, what is he driving?
>
> Starts out in a Jaguar, gets stopped in a Corvette?
>
> ;^)
>
> ===============================================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A senior citizen drove his brand new Jaguar convertible out of the
> dealership.
> Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind 
> blowing
> through what little hair he had left.
>
> 'Amazing,' he thought as he flew down I-5, pushing the pedal even more.
>
> Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a state trooper behind him, lights
> flashing and siren blaring.  He floored it to 100 mph, then 110, then 120.
> Suddenly he thought, 'What am I doing?  I'm too old for this,' and pulled
> over
> to await the trooper's arrival.
>
> Pulling in behind him, the trooper walked up to the Corvette, looked at 
> his
> watch and said, "Sir, my shift ends in 30 minutes.  Today is Friday.  If 
> you
> can give me a reason for speeding that I've never heard before, I'll let 
> you
> go."
>
> The old gentleman paused.  Then said, "Years ago, my wife ran off with a
> State
> Trooper.  I thought you were bringing her back."
>
> "Have a good day, sir," replied the trooper.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 16:38:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:38:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
In-Reply-To: <4D4D17BE46774E1A9217EF4201DBCB79@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
	<296B21292E6E4244A0707E9C86479B3E@spider>
	<4D4D17BE46774E1A9217EF4201DBCB79@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809221538t66500598taa6a0336f9f65509@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 5:17 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> Happens when you are old...


What happens when you are old?

Ol' Fart Jim

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 22 17:20:01 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:20:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1971 Midget for sale...
Message-ID: <14066796.1222125601921.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

1971 Midget for sale... see below

Dear Robby,
I am assuming that you are in the California, since the publicity about the Brisbane meet was mostly sent here. I am forwarding the info to a few of the lists that I am on - beyound that, Craigslist.com or ebay are my only suggestions - aphone number and location would also help - good luck with your car sale.

Best,

Rick
-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Rob Vasquez <vasqrv at sbcglobal.net>
>Sent: Sep 22, 2008 5:14 PM
>To: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
>Subject: Re: BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7, 2008
>
Hello Rick, 

I was considering selling my 1971 MG Midget. I was wondering if you could recommend a site that I could sell it on or if you know anyone who would be interested in the car.

I want someone that loves these cars and that will take care of it in the future. The only reason why I am selling it is because I do not have a garage to keep it in anymore. Our cats took the garage over and I do not want them to damage the car! 

The original owner sold it because they had bad knees and a bad hip and they couldn't get in and out of the car anymore. I am the second owner of the car that was originally purchased in Colorado and has never been driven in the rain. 

It needs a new top,speedometer cable and clutch(it pops out of 1st gear)I It has been repainted once but it does have scratches from cats. The previous owner kept it garaged and the cats use to sleep on the car. I had a couple of fuel leaks fixed and the brakes done. I was not looking to make a profit. 

I would only seek what I have put into the car.($3200.00)  I believe the car is worth more than that amount. thank You for your time. 

Robbie  <vasqrv at sbcglobal.net>

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep 22 17:43:47 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:43:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809221538t66500598taa6a0336f9f65509@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080922.122055.17976.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>,
	<4D4D17BE46774E1A9217EF4201DBCB79@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<43840a7e0809221538t66500598taa6a0336f9f65509@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D7CB43.30741.20F9890@kk7ss.verizon.net>

On 22 Sep 2008 at 17:38, Jim Johnson wrote:
> > Happens when you are old...
> 
>What happens when you are old?
> 
> Ol' Fart Jim

I forget !! 

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Mon Sep 22 18:14:28 2008
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:14:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Any one herd from Leo S and iris
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEECDNAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <000a01c91d0a$05b49910$6401a8c0@troublemgvkjx4>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEECDNAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <7BE448140D2040FD80DE4CECC3FBFACF@cooper>

 All,

 

Has anyone herd from Leo S he was going to ride out the storm in Baytown,
TX.

I have left a number of voice mail messages with no response.

 

Martin Cooper

Round Rock, Texas

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 22 18:15:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:15:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite weekend weather....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809221715m178be2e8lbe144b81d7410107@mail.gmail.com>

Wild fluctuations in the forecast models at the moment.  Watch the cluster
of thunderstorms now near the Dominican Republic.  Some models develop this
area into Tropical Storm Kyle. Others don't. If it becomes Kyle or even a
numbered tropical depression, it could well move northward along the gulf
stream and bring lots of rain to the Joisey shores sometime near the
weekend.  Too hard to tell right now exactly what it will do. There are
other models that keep it well off shore and the model forecasts are
changing wildly every 6 to 12 hours when the computers run them again.

I'll watch for the next couple of days and hope we get a forecast that makes
sense. At this time I believe I wouldn't rule out some rain Thur and Fri
into early Sat morning.

Sooooo.....    Bad news is there is a chance for rain.  Good news is there
is plenty of beer.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 22 18:21:52 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:21:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite weekend weather....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809221715m178be2e8lbe144b81d7410107@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0809221715m178be2e8lbe144b81d7410107@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D836A0.4080201@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Sooooo.....    Bad news is there is a chance for rain.  Good news is there
> is plenty of beer.
>   
My garage doesn't leak.
It just figures, our resident weatherman come to Joisey and he must 
bring rains with him.
No rain, not a drop in about 2 weeks, it'll be a full 3 weeks with no 
rain until Jim lands in Philly and I take him across the bridge, then 
the rain will stop Tuesday as soon as I see him off at the airport.
Jim, tell me it ain't so!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep 22 18:51:34 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (mdrowe at optonline.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:51:34 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1981 Mazda RX7 Rotary Engine (Bay)
Message-ID: <20080923005134.DB409F51C3@web10p.int.craigslist.org>

mdrowe at optonline.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting.
Please see below for more information.

1981 Mazda RX7 Rotary Engine

Reply to: anon-829843891 at craigslist.org
Date: 2008-09-06, 10:20AM


	I've got an 81 Mazda RX7 Rotary Engine in my garage. An old boyfriend swapped
it for an engine block with less miles a while back and left it in my garage.



Anyone is more than welcome to take it.



 Location: Bay
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 22 18:58:01 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:58:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite weekend weather....
In-Reply-To: <48D836A0.4080201@comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e0809221715m178be2e8lbe144b81d7410107@mail.gmail.com>
	<48D836A0.4080201@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1332654069.20080922175801@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     I saw Jim's influence with the weather in Missouri at LotO. It
     rained on us EVERY DAY there. .. in fact it rained on us every
     day ON THE WAY and half the days driving home. That was after he
     PROMISED in WRITING that the weather would be perfect. Not to
     hot, not to cold and NO RAIN top down driving for two weeks...
     Figures he could bring a hurricane for this next assembly.... !

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "That's an ugly hippopotamus!" said Tom hypocritically.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 22 19:34:03 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:34:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite weekend weather....
References: <43840a7e0809221715m178be2e8lbe144b81d7410107@mail.gmail.com><48D836A0.4080201@comcast.net>
	<1332654069.20080922175801@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <25E3E4819F6149C4B7DDE63619DF60CF@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite weekend weather....


Hello Frank,

     I saw Jim's influence with the weather in Missouri at LotO. It
     rained on us EVERY DAY there. .. in fact it rained on us every
     day ON THE WAY and half the days driving home. That was after he
     PROMISED in WRITING that the weather would be perfect. Not to
     hot, not to cold and NO RAIN top down driving for two weeks...
     Figures he could bring a hurricane for this next assembly.... !

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

      * "That's an ugly hippopotamus!" said Tom hypocritically.
_______________________________________________


Geez, Bill, the guy is a retired weatherman.  What the hell did you expect?? 
The truth??

LAD




Sorry, Jim.  Couldn't resist.

Your good friend,

Ed. 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 22 19:49:04 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:49:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
Message-ID: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I just saw a guy with a red TR4 in the CVS parking lot. He was actually
driving it too. That makes two LBCs I've seen here in SoCal in less than two
years. Maybe it's the beginning of a trend.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 22 19:56:04 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:56:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
References: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!


I just saw a guy with a red TR4 in the CVS parking lot. He was actually
driving it too. That makes two LBCs I've seen here in SoCal in less than two
years. Maybe it's the beginning of a trend.
_______________________________________________


Zoom, are you serious?  I always thought SoCal would be a hotbed for sports 
cars of any kind?  Here, in the boring mid-west, we see more than that every 
day.

BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here for some races. 
Do you need a schedule for next year?


LAD 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep 22 20:00:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:00:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
References: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
Message-ID: <326E85D26240472F96C872EAC4741BF8@midget>

> BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here for some 
> races.
> Do you need a schedule for next year?

I didn't think zoom was allowed at vintage races ;-) Isn't that a Mazda 
thing?
Besides, he can't afford to get hooked, he hasn't finished his Sprite yet. 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 22 20:27:11 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:27:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
In-Reply-To: <B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
Message-ID: <227058.57035.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here
> for some races.

His manager thought it was more important for him to work this weekend and buy food with the money and stuff. 

I'm sure there are better ways to spend a September weekend than racing at Elkhart Lake surrounded by every single car, British or otherwise, that you ever sketched on a notebook as a kid or dreamed of as an adult, but right now I can't think of any.

Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 22 20:34:11 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
References: <227058.57035.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C93341EF34DB43BB98D0CF2A66EEC077@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC content!


--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here
> for some races.

His manager thought it was more important for him to work this weekend and 
buy food with the money and stuff.

I'm sure there are better ways to spend a September weekend than racing at 
Elkhart Lake surrounded by every single car, British or otherwise, that you 
ever sketched on a notebook as a kid or dreamed of as an adult, but right 
now I can't think of any.

Ron

=================================

Yeah, I shoulda thought of that.  It's the old age thing.  I occasionally 
forget just how effing cool it is to be there.  Besides, the weather really 
sucked -- as perfect often does.

Thanks for snapping me back into reality.

Zzzzzz....

LAD

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 22 20:45:32 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:45:32 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <17946683.1222137932854.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

who was driving the "cheating dog" silver spridget this last wekend at NJMSP ???
saw the car but never saw the driver.....(yeah , i wuz there.....) so was a number of "PHA" other "SCCA" people.   the WW2 warbird display was impressive beyond my expectations!   ya missed a great show!   :)

chuck.

-----Original Message-----
>From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2008 1:42 PM
>To: 
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
>
>charles christ wrote:
>> sand fleas are nothing compared to how filthy dirty you will be by the end of day one!  spent one weekend there a few weeks back(second group to run there).  there is next to no vegitation growing to retain loose sandy dirt.  any competitor goes or a spectator drives to a fence to watch the race and it's a pretty nasty dust cloud!  also dust devils if it's windy!   the inside of my trailer is filthy.   i'm expecting to go to the lightning course to spectate on saturday.   i could course instruct on the thunderbolt course after the track time i had during the SVRA event driving the saab.  i feel the need to hear radial engines combined with vintage race cars this weekend.  ;)
>>   
>Chuck,
>Are you trying to talk me out of this trip? Fleas and filth. Do we have 
>showers there yet?
>John

From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 22 20:55:10 2008
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:55:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <092320080255.3301.48D85A8E00011CB000000CE52215553894CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>

Has anyone had experience with the rear shock conversion to tube shocks?  I don't want to spend the $ for the spax.  I can build the hardware and make modifications to the bushings, but the shock length and travel appears to be vital.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Sep 22 22:15:11 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:15:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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Hello Jmj3351,

     I have NO experience .. BUT, from everything that' been said on
     the list over the years the general recommendation is .. save
     your money. Peter C. can and does rebuilding for any purpose. and
     once done, done forever. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  There IS intelligent life in the universe... It ignores us... 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Sep 23 01:00:06 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:00:06 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Shocks
In-Reply-To: <092320080255.3301.48D85A8E00011CB000000CE52215553894CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1961690C554E46D587A2C5B770411E42@GuyLaptop>

JMJ,

I did this conversion on my '71 Sprite, but didn't use an expensive
commercial kit.
Front shocks from a classic mini (not the BMW variety!) are the correct
length.
They fit as a direct replacement for the rubber check straps on the rear
axle.
The lower spring plates need to be turned over and swapped side for side and
then with the use of suitably sized bolts and washers, top and bottom, they
just bolt on. Conversion cost me 12GBP total ($20?)and they have worked
fine.

Guy

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Behalf Of jmj3351 at comcast.net
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To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)


Has anyone had experience with the rear shock conversion to tube shocks?  I
don't want to spend the $ for the spax.  I can build the hardware and make
modifications to the bushings, but the shock length and travel appears to be
vital.
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 23 06:32:57 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:32:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
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Message-ID: <48D8E1F9.8090408@lehigh.edu>

Chuck,
Nobody could miss what was going on overhead all weekend. We drove the 
gravel road around the perimeter and watch several races across from the 
tower on the outside of Thunderbolt, and the coolest thing for me was 
being less than 300 yards from the runway while all of the war birds 
were taking off and doing flyovers. I still can't identify everything I 
saw, but was in awe of the bombers and P-51 with it's 12 cylinder 
engine. The classic car show was special also, I was impressed to have 
the chance to examine 6 Allards, with several different engines. The 
Allard with a competition pedigree was powered by a Chevy V8 and a huge 
McColough (sp?) supercharger. My friend J.D. King won a hard fought CFF 
race, the best one-armed race car driver you will ever see, an 
inspiration to see what some people with disabilities can accomplish.
The cheatin dog was driven by Matt Hagopian, a nice young man and new 
member here. I met Matt and his grandfather on Sunday in the Lightning 
paddock and had a nice conversation with them. Unfortunately I didn't 
get to see them race, there was just so much going on and we tried to 
take it all in. Got an offer to drive at the ARRC in a F1st in November 
from the car's owner, and an offer to collaborate on my vintage FV 
project with the goal of both of us being competitive at the 50th 
anniversary celebration at Roebling Road in Savannah. Another 
distraction to finishing my Sprite, but it's great to have my good 
friend and ex-crew chief Jim Smith involved again. The garage work 
wasn't getting done, but I need to get to the track more often.
Also, no sand fleas, just a great event!
John
Fogelsville, PA


charles christ wrote:
> who was driving the "cheating dog" silver spridget this last wekend at NJMSP ???
> saw the car but never saw the driver.....(yeah , i wuz there.....) so was a number of "PHA" other "SCCA" people.   the WW2 warbird display was impressive beyond my expectations!   ya missed a great show!   :)
>
> chuck.

From fredpixley at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 23 05:01:13 2008
From: fredpixley at sympatico.ca (Frederick  Pixley)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:01:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ID this gearbox?
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP232CC4BB3EB654D0F77103B54A0@phx.gbl>

Robert,
It could be Austin Marina.  I have one I could check if you need anything
details.
Fred
Napanee, Ontario

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 23 08:08:18 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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Message-ID: <48D8F852.1030807@lehigh.edu>

jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with the rear shock conversion to tube shocks?  I don't want to spend the $ for the spax.  I can build the hardware and make modifications to the bushings, but the shock length and travel appears to be vital.
>
>   
I used front tube shocks on my Sprite and built my own brackets, very 
similar to what Carrera shocks had done with their kit, but I had 
coilovers on the rear with welded in mounting points. Take a look at how 
Frontline has designed the lower mounts to reinforce the A-arm, a 
potential trouble spot when you just hang a mount off the rear of the 
A-arm. I recently sold Carrera F&R kits that I was saving for my street 
car, and can add some things about the rear shocks to what Guy said. The 
top of the rear shocks should lean in slightly toward the centerline of 
the chassis so there is a progressive action to the shock. In other 
words, you want chassis movement to compress the shocks as much as 
possible, in bump and roll. Of course you must have enough stroke to 
keep from bottoming the shock in compression at the ride height you're 
using, and have enough stroke left for full extension. You can put a 
spacer in the rebound strap brackets and place the shock to the inside 
with a longer bolt.  The 5" stroke Carrera shocks used in the bolt-on 
kit were not really long enough, and would want to pull the inside wheel 
off the ground in hard cornering according to my suspension guru. He 
always wanted to design a proper kit for the rear but I guess there 
isn't much demand for that anymore. As others have said, there is 
nothing wrong with good lever shocks for the majority of drivers.
Take your measurements with these things in mind.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Sep 23 09:43:20 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:43:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
In-Reply-To: <B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
References: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F023D2@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Bring yur gitbox.  Flounder's getting rusty.
Too much Neil Diamond.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:56 PM
To: Billy Zoom; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC content!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!


I just saw a guy with a red TR4 in the CVS parking lot. He was actually
driving it too. That makes two LBCs I've seen here in SoCal in less than
two
years. Maybe it's the beginning of a trend.
_______________________________________________


Zoom, are you serious?  I always thought SoCal would be a hotbed for
sports
cars of any kind?  Here, in the boring mid-west, we see more than that
every
day.

BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here for some
races.
Do you need a schedule for next year?


LAD

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Sep 23 09:49:27 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:49:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F023D2@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9403F023D2@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <03a801c91d93$f725d6e0$e57184a0$@com>

No he ain't. His chops are just fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Deikis, John G
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:43 AM
To: Larry Daniels; Billy Zoom; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC content!

Bring yur gitbox.  Flounder's getting rusty.
Too much Neil Diamond.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:56 PM
To: Billy Zoom; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LBC content!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:49 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!


I just saw a guy with a red TR4 in the CVS parking lot. He was actually
driving it too. That makes two LBCs I've seen here in SoCal in less than
two
years. Maybe it's the beginning of a trend.
_______________________________________________


Zoom, are you serious?  I always thought SoCal would be a hotbed for
sports
cars of any kind?  Here, in the boring mid-west, we see more than that
every
day.

BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here for some
races.
Do you need a schedule for next year?


LAD
_______________________________________________

From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Sep 23 10:19:16 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:19:16 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Senior Drivers
Message-ID: <20080923.091916.17612.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

What happens is that people send you more and more jokes that you don't
remember ever seeing before.

Clay L.



-- kk7ss at verizon.net wrote:
On 22 Sep 2008 at 17:38, Jim Johnson wrote:
> > Happens when you are old...
>
>What happens when you are old?
>
> Ol' Fart Jim

I forget !!
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Sep 23 11:41:25 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:41:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] painting the Morris soon
Message-ID: <7E14318817B04ED7816E0A58A3CDA789@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Today I'm headed out to get the paint for the Morris pickup I've been working
on.  I'm going with something like "Almond Green", a slightly greyish green
that will be the perfect compliment to the greyish blue I put on the Austin.
Damn this is fun!!!!

Glen Byrns

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Tue Sep 23 12:12:51 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:12:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <48D8E1F9.8090408@lehigh.edu>
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	<48D8E1F9.8090408@lehigh.edu>
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That was me! qualifying time at lightening was 1:28.340, practice on
saturday I dropped my time down to 1:25.808, then for the race on sunday i
ran 1:24.559, I had 3 laps in the 24's and the rest of the 12 laps were less
then 1 second difference minus 2 that I let the leaders by. they were within
2 seconds of fastest time.

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:32 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Chuck,
> Nobody could miss what was going on overhead all weekend. We drove the
> gravel road around the perimeter and watch several races across from the
> tower on the outside of Thunderbolt, and the coolest thing for me was
> being less than 300 yards from the runway while all of the war birds
> were taking off and doing flyovers. I still can't identify everything I
> saw, but was in awe of the bombers and P-51 with it's 12 cylinder
> engine. The classic car show was special also, I was impressed to have
> the chance to examine 6 Allards, with several different engines. The
> Allard with a competition pedigree was powered by a Chevy V8 and a huge
> McColough (sp?) supercharger. My friend J.D. King won a hard fought CFF
> race, the best one-armed race car driver you will ever see, an
> inspiration to see what some people with disabilities can accomplish.
> The cheatin dog was driven by Matt Hagopian, a nice young man and new
> member here. I met Matt and his grandfather on Sunday in the Lightning
> paddock and had a nice conversation with them. Unfortunately I didn't
> get to see them race, there was just so much going on and we tried to
> take it all in. Got an offer to drive at the ARRC in a F1st in November
> from the car's owner, and an offer to collaborate on my vintage FV
> project with the goal of both of us being competitive at the 50th
> anniversary celebration at Roebling Road in Savannah. Another
> distraction to finishing my Sprite, but it's great to have my good
> friend and ex-crew chief Jim Smith involved again. The garage work
> wasn't getting done, but I need to get to the track more often.
> Also, no sand fleas, just a great event!
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
> charles christ wrote:
> > who was driving the "cheating dog" silver spridget this last wekend at
> NJMSP ???
> > saw the car but never saw the driver.....(yeah , i wuz there.....) so was
> a number of "PHA" other "SCCA" people.   the WW2 warbird display was
> impressive beyond my expectations!   ya missed a great show!   :)
> >
> > chuck.
>  _______________________________________________
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-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 23 12:25:47 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:25:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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Message-ID: <8D2CE5D2-022D-41A7-9459-5612EAD8FBDE@mac.com>

Like a lot of folks I have been running Peter C's rebuilt shocks,  
which are outstanding, and it seems that you would have to get a  
significant improvement to justify a change. That said,while mounting  
is an issue in doing the conversion I would think that having a shock  
that is matched to the suspension characteristics would be the key  
for the conversion to be successful.  As the case would be I am  
currently trying out a prototype conversion using Bilstein shocks on  
all four wheels.  These are not off the shelf shocks. They have been  
valved to match the Bugeye suspension characteristics. I am only  
doing street driving and with all due respect to Peter C I find the  
car is much smoother riding.  Towards the end of the week I hope to  
get out on some twist and turns at a more pressing speed.  This is  
not a cheap conversion - all the parts are top quality.  At the  
moment the only modifications needed are changing the driver side  
bracket between the radiator and the wheel well and the mounting of  
the windshield washer bottle which is minor.  If you do not have all  
this stock stuff - fresh air duct, radiator brackets, windshield  
washer bottle then he has a kit ready for delivery.

Just my two cents.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:55 PM, jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:

> Has anyone had experience with the rear shock conversion to tube  
> shocks?  I don't want to spend the $ for the spax.  I can build the  
> hardware and make modifications to the bushings, but the shock  
> length and travel appears to be vital.
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From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 12:28:06 2008
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Vs 1500 Radiator
Message-ID: <430360.16160.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I just saw a chrome radiator cover on ebay however it is off of a 1275, would this thing happen to fit a radiator off a 1500 or were there changes made? 

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 23 12:33:33 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:33:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content!
In-Reply-To: <B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
References: <C4FD9920.19CF9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<B8539A4B186B425793E4AA3ED47A3380@Larry>
Message-ID: <1CA2F0A1-4C65-4553-924A-F56EFBAE9BA4@mac.com>

It is but we are so spread out it is easy to miss the other LBC's - -  
after all we could put four eastern states inside the county line and  
have space left over :-) :-)


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 22, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

>
> Zoom, are you serious?  I always thought SoCal would be a hotbed  
> for sports
> cars of any kind?  Here, in the boring mid-west, we see more than  
> that every
> day.
>
> BTW, this past weekend Ron said we need to get you out here for  
> some races.
> Do you need a schedule for next year?

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 23 12:34:07 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:34:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <092320080255.3301.48D85A8E00011CB000000CE52215553894CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
References: <092320080255.3301.48D85A8E00011CB000000CE52215553894CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C55B85D7-9E92-4B0A-AD06-C745DBF0F2A0@mac.com>

Like a lot of folks I have been running Peter C's rebuilt shocks,  
which are outstanding, and it seems that you would have to get a  
significant improvement to justify a change. That said,while mounting  
is an issue in doing the conversion I would think that having a shock  
that is matched to the suspension characteristics would be the key  
for the conversion to be successful.  As the case would be I am  
currently trying out a prototype conversion using Bilstein shocks on  
all four wheels.  These are not off the shelf shocks. They have been  
valved to match the Bugeye suspension characteristics. I am only  
doing street driving and with all due respect to Peter C I find the  
car is much smoother riding.  Towards the end of the week I hope to  
get out on some twist and turns at a more pressing speed.  This is  
not a cheap conversion - all the parts are top quality.  At the  
moment the only modifications needed are changing the driver side  
bracket between the radiator and the wheel well and the mounting of  
the windshield washer bottle which is minor.  If you do not have all  
this stock stuff - air duct, radiator brackets, windshield washer  
bottle then he has a kit ready for delivery.
On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:55 PM, jmj3351 at comcast.net wrote:

> Has anyone had experience with the rear shock conversion to tube  
> shocks?  I don't want to spend the $ for the spax.  I can build the  
> hardware and make modifications to the bushings, but the shock  
> length and travel appears to be vital.
> _______________________________________________
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Sep 23 13:56:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Vs 1500 Radiator
References: <430360.16160.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B528576C11A74A3FA8F4053D95A7B4A5@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I just saw a chrome radiator cover on ebay however it is off of a 1275, 
>would this thing happen to fit a radiator off a 1500 or were there changes 
>made?

If you are referring to the shroud that mounts the radiator to the car, the 
1275 unit is about an inch or so deeper (front to back) than the 1500 unit. 
The unit for the 1500 was shortened to accomodate the longer engine. So, a 
1500 shroud will fit the 1275, but not vice-versa.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 23 14:01:59 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:01:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
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	<48D8E1F9.8090408@lehigh.edu>
	<87a1f55d0809231112r30f4d3ces46a8a621f9996a2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48D94B37.3010706@lehigh.edu>

Matt Hagopian wrote:
> That was me! qualifying time at lightening was 1:28.340, practice on 
> saturday I dropped my time down to 1:25.808, then for the race on 
> sunday i ran 1:24.559, I had 3 laps in the 24's and the rest of the 12 
> laps were less then 1 second difference minus 2 that I let the leaders 
> by. they were within 2 seconds of fastest time.
>
Nice consistent times. Not sure I'd want to continue to be known as the 
"Cheatin Dog" though. <bg> 
John
Fogelsville, PA

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 23 15:01:14 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:01:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Weather Update...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809231401gee2ea46h8628244186618eed@mail.gmail.com>

Not a lot has changed.  The deepening upper trough which is pushing a cold
front southeast across me today will be entrenched over the eastern US by
Thursday with a surface trough and broad surface low pressure system along
the US east coast. That system will feed on the tropical moisture off the
Bahamas resulting in onshore winds and rain across New Jersey starting early
Thursday. The rains should be sporadic and heavy at times but will taper off
Friday into Friday night as the low moves slowly north northeast and winds
return to off shore. The rains should be finally ending during the morning
hours Saturday.  Highs likely 65 to 70 and lows 60 to 65. Some sunshine
again on Sunday.

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 18:45:45 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
Message-ID: <561588.18784.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Some pix of the Gathering on the Green at the Osthoff resort last weekend. MGA won best, I think. The brown Bugatti Type 57 was my favorite. The blue car was a one-off Franziss. We sat with the Bugatti owner and Stutz owner couple at dinner, very interesting people. You have to flip through them - I can't group them without upgrading (I need to find a new site!). No pics of Flounder's band - if anyone has some, mail 'em and I'll post them.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2883872042/in/photostream/

Ron

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Sep 23 20:08:42 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:08:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
Message-ID: <092420080208.13768.48D9A12A00056A5B000035C82215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

The exhaust on my 74 midget has sprung its last leak (4 that I am aware of).  So I was thinking of the stainless steel one from VB. Any thoughts? or what are you using?
ryan

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 23 20:11:13 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:11:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Weather Update...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0809231401gee2ea46h8628244186618eed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <363145.65300.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Glad Frank said I could have the couch...  My tent is old and a bit on the
leaky side.

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Weather Update...
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "easternoshitgroup"
<easternoshitgroup at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 4:01 PM

Not a lot has changed.  The deepening upper trough which is pushing a cold
front southeast across me today will be entrenched over the eastern US by
Thursday with a surface trough and broad surface low pressure system along
the US east coast. That system will feed on the tropical moisture off the
Bahamas resulting in onshore winds and rain across New Jersey starting early
Thursday. The rains should be sporadic and heavy at times but will taper off
Friday into Friday night as the low moves slowly north northeast and winds
return to off shore. The rains should be finally ending during the morning
hours Saturday.  Highs likely 65 to 70 and lows 60 to 65. Some sunshine
again on Sunday.

--
Cheers!!
Jim
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed Sep 24 00:38:12 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:38:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
In-Reply-To: <092420080208.13768.48D9A12A00056A5B000035C82215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <092420080208.13768.48D9A12A00056A5B000035C82215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A4DFA3BD-1709-44C6-9769-8F00255B13E1@mac.com>

Ryan,

You may want to check if the pipe comes as a single piece, like the  
originals, or is in two pieces.  I got a SS exhaust pipe a few ears  
ago, do not remember from where, which was in two pieces. It work OK  
except that the pipe clamp mid way down the car would catch on  
everything generally twisting the "ball or bell" end out of the clamp  
at the header.  So guess it did not work OK.  :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:08 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> The exhaust on my 74 midget has sprung its last leak (4 that I am  
> aware of).  So I was thinking of the stainless steel one from VB.  
> Any thoughts? or what are you using?
> ryan
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 24 06:07:13 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:07:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
In-Reply-To: <561588.18784.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <561588.18784.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DA2D71.6040103@lehigh.edu>

Ron Soave wrote:
> Some pix of the Gathering on the Green at the Osthoff resort last weekend. MGA won best, I think. The brown Bugatti Type 57 was my favorite. The blue car was a one-off Franziss. We sat with the Bugatti owner and Stutz owner couple at dinner, very interesting people. You have to flip through them - I can't group them without upgrading (I need to find a new site!). No pics of Flounder's band - if anyone has some, mail 'em and I'll post them.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2883872042/in/photostream/
>
>   
Hi Ron,
I saw the Franziss at Watkins Glen, and what a trip to see how hard it 
is still thrashed on the track. The open rocker arms are something you 
don't see every day. All of the pics look great.
How's that new clutch working for you? What release bearing are you 
using, and how are you limiting the throw?  Internal slave or a guide 
tube for the Tilton bearing to ride ahead of the stock carbon bearing? 
Something I still have to decide on.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 24 06:28:48 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:28:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
References: <561588.18784.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48DA2D71.6040103@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <4BCE7E4A59EB4E03B99606CC7AFB517D@midget>

> How's that new clutch working for you? What release bearing are you 
> using, and how are you limiting the throw?  Internal slave or a guide 
> tube for the Tilton bearing to ride ahead of the stock carbon bearing? 

Somebody HAD to bring up Ron's clutch!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 06:29:13 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:29:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
Message-ID: <194422.47526.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi John,

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
> How's that new clutch working for you? 

OK, but it slipped every once in a while going hard up a hill (turn 5) towards the end of a few sessions. 

> What release
> bearing are you 
> using,

Stock carbon puck /slave cylinder  with a Tilton spacer/guide tube ahead of the bearing

>and how are you limiting the throw?  

There's a welded nut on the footwell firewall; a long bolt with 2 nuts on it lines up perfectly with Tilton clutch pedal. We dialed in the throw of the pedal by lifting the rear wheels, putting it in gear, and limiting travel after the wheels broke free from depressing the pedal. Maybe 3/4" to 1 inch pedal throw total!
 
> Something I still have to decide on.

It took quite a beating this weekend. I think the slipping problem is easily solved. The engine bay was absolutely bone dry, so the oil must have been on the flywheel instead this time ;-))

Regards,
Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 24 06:37:51 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:37:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
References: <092420080208.13768.48D9A12A00056A5B000035C82215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1EBCBA7F87584BEF912EF1E91DFBCD14@midget>

> The exhaust on my 74 midget has sprung its last leak (4 that I am aware 
> of).  So I was thinking of the stainless steel one from VB. Any thoughts? 
> or what are you using?

Ryan,
On my 72 I use an LCB header sourced from Rivergate that has a 1 5/8" 
collector which will accomodate the original 1 1/2" pipe on the inside OR a 
1 3/4" pipe on the outside. I went with a 1 3/4" pipe and had a piece welded 
onto it for the stock mount at the bulkhead. It is pretty easy to brace it 
in place and then use a jack behind the axle to angle it up a tad. A JC 
Whitney Hearthrob #ZX222813Y muffler straight out the back with a tip cut 
from the other pipe rounds it off. Oh yes, the Spanish-made band-type 
exhaust clamps that Moss started carrying last year are GREAT for not 
sticking down too far, being easy to install, and taking a lot of abuse. 
Just go to their site and do a search on "exhaust clamp". BTW, my exhaust is 
not stainless. Stainless WILL rust (it "stains less", not rustproof) and 
tends to sound tinny, so it isn't a magic bullet that would mean never 
touching your exhaust again.
David Lieb 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 24 06:40:19 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:40:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
In-Reply-To: <A4DFA3BD-1709-44C6-9769-8F00255B13E1@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F399D4CB3BFE5AC10AEB6D1B8450@phx.gbl>

I installed an exhaust on my Fiat Spider way back when ...  I installed the 
U clamp with the nuts facing down.  I picked up more than one plastic bag 
that way before I turned it around to face up.  The smell of melting plastic 
kind of takes some of the enjoyment out of a top down cruise.

----Original Message Follows----

Ryan,

You may want to check if the pipe comes as a single piece, like the
originals, or is in two pieces.  I got a SS exhaust pipe a few ears
ago, do not remember from where, which was in two pieces. It work OK
except that the pipe clamp mid way down the car would catch on
everything generally twisting the "ball or bell" end out of the clamp
at the header.  So guess it did not work OK.  :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 23, 2008, at 7:08 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

 > The exhaust on my 74 midget has sprung its last leak (4 that I am
 > aware of).  So I was thinking of the stainless steel one from VB.
 > Any thoughts? or what are you using?
 > ryan

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Sep 24 07:00:04 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:00:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
In-Reply-To: <194422.47526.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <194422.47526.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DA39D4.3040906@lehigh.edu>

   Ron Soave wrote:

     OK, but it slipped every once in a while going hard up a hill (turn
     5) towards the end of a few sessions.

   Ron,
   Is  there  any  chance  that  disc  wear  during the session moved the
   fingers out enough to use up the free play?

What release
bearing are you
using,

Stock carbon puck /slave cylinder  with a Tilton spacer/guide tube ahead of the
 bearing

   I  didn't  know  Tilton  made  a  guide  tube!  I  started  on  a home
   fabrication for that. Is it illustrated anywhere?  Or a P/N?

and how are you limiting the throw?

There's a welded nut on the footwell firewall; a long bolt with 2 nuts on it li
nes up perfectly with Tilton clutch pedal. We dialed in the throw of the pedal 
by lifting the rear wheels, putting it in gear, and limiting travel after the w
heels broke free from depressing the pedal. Maybe 3/4" to 1 inch pedal throw to
tal!

   I  saw  a figure for throw at the fingers on the clutch cover drawing.
   .771" , if I remember correctly. So you must have correlated to that?

It took quite a beating this weekend. I think the slipping problem is easily so
lved. The engine bay was absolutely bone dry, so the oil must have been on the 
flywheel instead this time ;-))

   I guess an oiling problem could be solved easily by a rear seal kit?

John

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Wed Sep 24 07:49:01 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:49:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] TRIED TO UNSCRIBE - DIDN'T WORK
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6041AF752@glitas07.garverinc.local>

I'M OUT FOR KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY FOR A FEW WEEKS.  WOULD LIKE TO
UNSUBSCRIBE TEMPORARILY (I LOVE THESE LISTS) BUT CAN'T BY TRYING TO GO
THRU THE MAJORDOMO LINKS.  WHAT TO DO.


Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 24 09:01:04 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:01:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
References: <BAY112-F399D4CB3BFE5AC10AEB6D1B8450@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3A63147C2062411CAB016A68B632C46D@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?


I installed an exhaust on my Fiat Spider way back when ...  I installed the
U clamp with the nuts facing down.  I picked up more than one plastic bag
that way before I turned it around to face up.  The smell of melting plastic
kind of takes some of the enjoyment out of a top down cruise.

==================

Permatex makes a product called Muffler and Tailpipe Sealer (or something 
like that) that effectively welds the two pipes together.  It will not come 
apart.  In fact, you will need to cut that section out to separate the 
pipes.  With this you won't need a clamp.

LAD 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 24 09:49:28 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:49:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What type of exhaust?
References: <BAY112-F399D4CB3BFE5AC10AEB6D1B8450@phx.gbl>
	<3A63147C2062411CAB016A68B632C46D@Larry>
Message-ID: <AF92189D8FA042D5B8E1A9F834C0F33E@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Permatex makes a product called Muffler and Tailpipe Sealer (or something
> like that) that effectively welds the two pipes together.  It will not 
> come
> apart.  In fact, you will need to cut that section out to separate the
> pipes.  With this you won't need a clamp.

I prefer the Moss clamps I referenced earlier. 

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed Sep 24 09:51:54 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:51:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 73 RWA Midget FS
Message-ID: <48DA621A.4080503@smarc.net>

I'm finding I have too many projects, not enough time, and am losing 
enthusiasm.  I also started blowing apart my MGB in prep for the sill 
and transmission repairs, and I could use more room to work. I put 
a TON of work into the midget over the last two years, but apparently 
the new clutch or throwout bearing I installed is defective or improperly 
installed or something. The car runs well and drives, but it does need to 
be pulled to see what's going on. There's a weird rattle / vibration thing going on.

Unfortunately, I am in the midst of replacing 50 year old windows in the 
house, and am having another crisis as the plumbing has been developing 
pin hole leaks. (When it rains it pours?) Add to that a new consulting 
arrangement that requires a lot of time, and I have just got too much on 
my plate to be worrying with the Midget. I just want to sell the car, 
and give the money to my son who's looking to buy his first car.

The Midget has completely redone brakes, new wheel cylinders, new brake 
hoses (all three), new brake master cyl, rebuilt calipers, new brake 
rotors, new wheel bearings, new slave cyl & hose, rebuilt transmission, 
new main wiring harness, replaced oil/press gauge and tach (all working 
now), new fuse box, new headlight switch, new seats, freshly painted 
engine with new timing cover and oil pan seals & gaskets, new hoses, 
thermostat, new water pump & belt, new SU fuel pump, rebuilt SU carbs, 
distributor rebuilt and recurved by Advanced Distributors, new top (needs installed) & 
more stuff.

Prior to me getting the car, the rockers / sills were redone, and the 
kingpins were replaced. Tons of receipts.

If interested, come see it soon (Baltimore), or email me for pix.

-- 

Marc

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 10:43:09 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] TRIED TO UNSCRIBE - DIDN'T WORK
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6041AF752@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <748075.8600.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Like a certain hotel, you can check out, but you can never leave...

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Brashear, Jack, N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com> wrote:

From: Brashear, Jack, N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] TRIED TO UNSCRIBE - DIDN'T WORK
To: "healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 8:49 AM

I'M OUT FOR KNEE REPLACEMENT SURGERY FOR A FEW WEEKS.  WOULD LIKE TO
UNSUBSCRIBE TEMPORARILY (I LOVE THESE LISTS) BUT CAN'T BY TRYING TO GO
THRU THE MAJORDOMO LINKS.  WHAT TO DO.


Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 24 12:21:24 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:21:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Weather Update 9/24/08
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809241121i3b2b1183mf891163b750b35e2@mail.gmail.com>

Dunno if I will have time to do another update tomorrow morning but the
forecast has pretty much gelled....

Upper level low pressure digging in over the eastern US as expected and is
starting to lift the system now off the Carolinas northward. Again, this is
as forecast several days ago. The system has already tapped tropical
moisture from the Bahamas so is fairly wet. A broad area of surface low
pressure associated with the upper low will drift into the Carolinas and
Virginia before making its way slowly north northeast along the eastern
seaboard through the weekend.

For Toms River area, easterly onshore winds will gradually increase into
Thursday. An area of light to occasionally moderate rain will move north
across most of southern New Jersey Thursday morning reaching both
Philadelphia and Toms River by midday. Rains will continue off and on
throughout the area from Thursday afternoon through Friday night before
tapering off into Saturday morning. At least a small chance for light rain
continues over the weekend, but once the surface low passes to the northeast
and winds shift to off shore, conditions will improve markedly.

Look or highs in the mid to upper 60s Thursday and Friday with lows in the
upper 50s Thursday night and in the lower 60s Friday night. It will be
breezy Thursday and Friday with east winds around 20 mph and gusty. For
Saturday, look for shifting westerly winds with a high around 70 and a low
Saturday night in the lower 60s. Some sunshine breaking through on Sunday
with a high in the mid 70s. There will be at least some chance for an
isolated rain shower Saturday and Sunday afternoon depending upon how much
sunshine is seen. More sun, better chance for showers developing.

Cheers!!
Jim

P.S. To Frank:   Might be some delays at Philly International by Tomorrow
evening....  Mucky weather slows air travel...

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 24 14:22:36 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:22:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weslake returns
Message-ID: <d0d.3b81ecb5.360bfb8c@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
I've just about managed to get on top of all my jobs so am able to get back  
on the list.
 
I even have some tech questions like:
 
What windscreen sealer is used when fitting a glass to a frame on a  69?  
Also is the sealer used inside the rubber (sparingly, if at all?) or  the frame?
 
Anyone fitted a flip top Monza or Aston oil filler cap to an aluminium  alloy 
rocker (valve) cover.  I plan to do this to my Weslake cover and  maybe just 
fit the fitting to my unused Oselli cover (or I might just sell my  Oselli 
cover that has no cap and takes a non standard size).
 
I have plain black crossflow rad top hoses for sale.
 
How's the list?
 
How's the Holy Sprite coming along?
 
Anything I've missed in the last 3 months or so?
 
W e s l a k e 1330

From tinydog at snet.net  Wed Sep 24 14:41:30 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:41:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Weslake returns
In-Reply-To: <d0d.3b81ecb5.360bfb8c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <092420082041.705.48DAA5FA000983EB000002C122216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

weather reports. lots of troughs.

 -------------- Original message from Weslake1330 at aol.com: --------------

> Anything I've missed in the last 3 months or so? 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 18:37:57 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
In-Reply-To: <48DA39D4.3040906@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <85110.55085.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU> wrote:
> Is there any chance that disc wear during the session moved
> the fingers
> out enough to use up the free play

Maybe heat closing the free play between TO bearing and fingers. 
 
> I didn't know Tilton made a guide tube! I started on a
> home fabrication
> for that. Is it illustrated anywhere?  Or a P/N?

Terrible pic on Rick Haynes's site, sportsandimports.biz under engine and driveline section. I have a pic on a recently died computer I'll get soon. PN on box is 61-041. It's really just a ball throwout bearing with a cast piece that rides on the input shaft in front of the stock bearing. You have to ream the center bushing or turn the input shaft down. No one seemed to be able to tell me why anyone would turn the shaft when reaming is so much easier.

> I saw a figure for throw at the fingers on the clutch cover
> drawing.
> .771" , if I remember correctly. So you must have
> correlated to that?

I think our instructions said with the Tilton MC it would be .25" pedal throw past initial release, with the stated dimension critical to avoiding over-throwing the clutch. It worked out to .75-ish coincidentally. Every now and then you get lucky, I guess.

Regards,
Ron

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 24 19:10:19 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:10:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <48D94B37.3010706@lehigh.edu>
References: <17946683.1222137932854.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48D8E1F9.8090408@lehigh.edu>
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I am removing some of the stickers... my grandfather just bought the car 4
weeks ago and we have been doing motor work ever since. He likes the
"cheatin' dog" sticker.. I dont know why. it has a neighbor of " Team
Thicko" that has had a few people come up and ask how long I have been a
part of that team. I am having trouble with tires. bought a set of hoosiers
and they are about 1.5 in wider then the BFG comp TA1s on there now, and the
ta's rubbed. sat there with a bottle jack and some boards to try to flare
out the fenders to avoid puncture. Worked out ok for a temp fix. Need some
suggestions on tires since I spoke to some of the fellows at NJMP about
AVONs and they said the "long lasting avons" lasted one weekend at Savannah.
and suggestions what to do with the fenders, flare, old circle fenders,
raise up cut out?

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:01 PM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>
>> That was me! qualifying time at lightening was 1:28.340, practice on
>> saturday I dropped my time down to 1:25.808, then for the race on sunday i
>> ran 1:24.559, I had 3 laps in the 24's and the rest of the 12 laps were less
>> then 1 second difference minus 2 that I let the leaders by. they were within
>> 2 seconds of fastest time.
>>
>> Nice consistent times. Not sure I'd want to continue to be known as the
> "Cheatin Dog" though. <bg> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>



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Matt Hagopian

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 24 19:16:54 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:16:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809241816m5c1b91ease595a328fd434ee8@mail.gmail.com>

I got the pics up let me know if the links work.. "old" pics from 2 weeks
ago...
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1385.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1386.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1384.jpg
and this is the car in NJMP sorry they werent action shots...
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/P1020028.jpg
-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 24 19:53:48 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:53:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809241816m5c1b91ease595a328fd434ee8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C5003D3C.19D90%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The other three don't look too bad. I think you could just pick out the big
chunks and run it a while longer.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Sep 24 20:00:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:00:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
References: <87a1f55d0809241816m5c1b91ease595a328fd434ee8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <10899A49ACA44D47AEA41D0F1033663F@midget>

>I got the pics up let me know if the links work.. "old" pics from 2 weeks
> ago...
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1385.jpg
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1386.jpg
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1384.jpg
> and this is the car in NJMP sorry they werent action shots...
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/P1020028.jpg

The second picture looks like the illustration for step three of the process 
of determining your engine's redline... you know, just before "and then 
subtract a hundred rpm". 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 24 21:23:23 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:23:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <10899A49ACA44D47AEA41D0F1033663F@midget>
Message-ID: <20080925032323.UUVP17328.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hello-

Can an AC fuel pump suddenly increase pressure?

I've been running fairly OK for a month or so, and suddenly smelled gas.  My
forward carb (on my 1098) started overflowing.  I observed this after
turning the key and waiting for the thumps to stop after reaching
pressure-but this time it just kept going.

(I'm working on electrical issues, wasn't planning on this one.)

I popped the float and cleaned it out and made sure it was adjusted OK.
Lines were tight and not leaking.  It now does not leak, but now the pump is
constantly running with the key to on, and I know it has clean gas in the
(clean) tank and pressure.  It runs OK actually.

Time to change the pump?  Something stuck in it?  It is pumping, not sure of
the psi yet.

Chris

66 MKIII

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 24 21:32:05 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:32:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a cap for an aluminum valve cover
Message-ID: <834233.30491.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I bought two vintage finned aluminum valve covers a few months ago at a garage
sale.  Either / both would work on my 1275.  Problem is that niether have a
cap.  I have been unsuccessful at finding one so far.  The cap I need screws
on in the same manner as our gas caps do - with the bits that hold it on
around the outside of the filler neck - opposite of how a radiator cap is held
on where the slots are inside the neck. 
 
I sent the dimensions of what I need to Moss, but they were unable to find
anything in stock that would work.  Does anybody have a suggestion for a
source, or better yet something laying around the garage that would work and
you'd be willing to sell?  I can provide the specific measurements if anybody
has a candidate. 
 
If anybody is going to be at Frank's this weekend, I plan to bring both covers
with me for comparisons... (crossing my fingers there)
 
Thanks,
 - David
'71 MIdget
Long Island

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed Sep 24 22:35:11 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:35:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <20080925032323.UUVP17328.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080925032323.UUVP17328.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <EFBD4E8F-129D-439B-867D-C8190E7C7EDE@mac.com>

Chris,

It seem like you got a small particle stuck in the float needle  
valve.  "Clean" gas may not be really clean.  Are you using fuel  
filters?


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Chris Manuel wrote:

> Hello-
>
> Can an AC fuel pump suddenly increase pressure?
>
> I've been running fairly OK for a month or so, and suddenly smelled  
> gas.  My
> forward carb (on my 1098) started overflowing.  I observed this after
> turning the key and waiting for the thumps to stop after reaching
> pressure-but this time it just kept going.
>
> (I'm working on electrical issues, wasn't planning on this one.)
>
> I popped the float and cleaned it out and made sure it was adjusted  
> OK.
> Lines were tight and not leaking.  It now does not leak, but now  
> the pump is
> constantly running with the key to on, and I know it has clean gas  
> in the
> (clean) tank and pressure.  It runs OK actually.
>
> Time to change the pump?  Something stuck in it?  It is pumping,  
> not sure of
> the psi yet.
>
> Chris
>
> 66 MKIII
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 24 23:38:03 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:38:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <10899A49ACA44D47AEA41D0F1033663F@midget>
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	<10899A49ACA44D47AEA41D0F1033663F@midget>
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Engine was never reved past 6500rpm, there was a 7000rpm chip in the msd but
it was never hit. only lasted 3 laps on the track! and one of those was
towed in because the wire from the coil fell off! and the other 2 were
learning the car. we had to put a new valve keeper in, new valve
(obviously), ground the valve seats down, cleaned up the piston. what one of
those pics doesnt show is on the piston, there is a 1/2" dent in the top of
the piston. cylinder walls are a little gashed. freshen up the motor this
winter. compression is only 160 in that cylinder and 165 in two others and
one cyliner is 185. kind of low for 13:1 pistons, rocker arm has a crack in
it... seems to have held up for this whole weekend. I put flat valves in, i
know thats not as good of flow but it allows for more clearance. I dont know
the spring pressure im running tho... how do i find out?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

>  >I got the pics up let me know if the links work.. "old" pics from 2
> weeks
> > ago...
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1385.jpg
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1386.jpg
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1384.jpg
> > and this is the car in NJMP sorry they werent action shots...
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/P1020028.jpg
>
> The second picture looks like the illustration for step three of the
> process
> of determining your engine's redline... you know, just before "and then
> subtract a hundred rpm".
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Sep 24 23:50:37 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:50:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
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Ed,
my grandfather blew it, never went over 6500 there was a 7000 rev limit chip
on the msd. I think the clearances were incorrect and I think the timing was
incorrect. i was told the timing gear was "rekeyed" to 102 teeth... if that
means something to you.

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Sep 25 00:46:25 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:46:25 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809242238n78f4a63ax61430dd695cafeb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9921EFC061584B9E8BECF977AD685994@GuyLaptop>

Long shot this Matt, but IIRC there are two lengths of valve stem available.
If using the longer one then it needs the spacer under the spring. But I
just wonder if the replaced valve was a mis-match to the others.  But then
the clearance would have shown up as different when the valves were re-set.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matt Hagopian
Sent: 25 September 2008 06:38
To: David Lieb
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe


Engine was never reved past 6500rpm, there was a 7000rpm chip in the msd but
it was never hit. only lasted 3 laps on the track! and one of those was
towed in because the wire from the coil fell off! and the other 2 were
learning the car. we had to put a new valve keeper in, new valve
(obviously), ground the valve seats down, cleaned up the piston. what one of
those pics doesnt show is on the piston, there is a 1/2" dent in the top of
the piston. cylinder walls are a little gashed. freshen up the motor this
winter. compression is only 160 in that cylinder and 165 in two others and
one cyliner is 185. kind of low for 13:1 pistons, rocker arm has a crack in
it... seems to have held up for this whole weekend. I put flat valves in, i
know thats not as good of flow but it allows for more clearance. I dont know
the spring pressure im running tho... how do i find out?

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM, David Lieb
<dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

>  >I got the pics up let me know if the links work.. "old" pics from 2
> weeks
> > ago...
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1385.jpg
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1386.jpg
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1384.jpg
> > and this is the car in NJMP sorry they werent action shots...
> > http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/P1020028.jpg
>
> The second picture looks like the illustration for step three of the
> process
> of determining your engine's redline... you know, just before "and then
> subtract a hundred rpm".
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Sep 25 01:05:55 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:05:55 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809242250v1ecb70b6p75eef67c95a27a6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C80E729523E45E6AEA6A0AE8123316A@GuyLaptop>

Matt,

<<the timing gear was "rekeyed" to 102 teeth..>>

Not sure that really makes any sense.  But "Rekeyed to 102 DEGREES might.
The cam shaft may have been set to 102 degrees ATDC for max lift on #1 inlet
valve. This could be done with vernier timing gears, a stepped woodruff key
or a re-cut keyway.

Depending on the cam shaft specification 102 degrees could make sense.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matt Hagopian
Sent: 25 September 2008 06:51
To: shop at justbrits.com
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?


Ed,
my grandfather blew it, never went over 6500 there was a 7000 rev limit chip
on the msd. I think the clearances were incorrect and I think the timing was
incorrect. i was told the timing gear was "rekeyed" to 102 teeth... if that
means something to you.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 25 05:54:09 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809242238n78f4a63ax61430dd695cafeb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <466565.38572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Y


--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:

> From: Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
> To: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 12:38 AM
> Engine was never reved past 6500rpm, there was a 7000rpm
> chip in the msd but
> it was never hit. only lasted 3 laps on the track! and one
> of those was
> towed in because the wire from the coil fell off! and the
> other 2 were
> learning the car. we had to put a new valve keeper in, new
> valve
> (obviously), ground the valve seats down, cleaned up the
> piston. what one of
> those pics doesnt show is on the piston, there is a
> 1/2" dent in the top of
> the piston. cylinder walls are a little gashed. freshen up
> the motor this
> winter. compression is only 160 in that cylinder and 165 in
> two others and
> one cyliner is 185. kind of low for 13:1 pistons, rocker
> arm has a crack in
> it... seems to have held up for this whole weekend. I put
> flat valves in, i
> know thats not as good of flow but it allows for more
> clearance. I dont know
> the spring pressure im running tho... how do i find out?
> 
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:00 PM, David Lieb
> <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
> 
> >  >I got the pics up let me know if the links work..
> "old" pics from 2
> > weeks
> > > ago...
> > >
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1385.jpg
> > >
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1386.jpg
> > >
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/CIMG1384.jpg
> > > and this is the car in NJMP sorry they werent
> action shots...
> > >
> http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii237/gonejeepin101/P1020028.jpg
> >
> > The second picture looks like the illustration for
> step three of the
> > process
> > of determining your engine's redline... you know,
> just before "and then
> > subtract a hundred rpm".
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> 
> 
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From bighealey at charter.net  Thu Sep 25 06:26:28 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:26:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a cap for an aluminum valve cover
In-Reply-To: <834233.30491.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ACF86CFF551C4C31BC253219154A16EB@TRACY>

Check with Ray Juncal.  Perhaps one of his caps will work.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Booker
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:32 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a cap for an aluminum valve cover

I bought two vintage finned aluminum valve covers a few months ago at a
garage
sale.  Either / both would work on my 1275.  Problem is that niether have a
cap.  I have been unsuccessful at finding one so far.  The cap I need screws
on in the same manner as our gas caps do - with the bits that hold it on
around the outside of the filler neck - opposite of how a radiator cap is
held
on where the slots are inside the neck.

I sent the dimensions of what I need to Moss, but they were unable to find
anything in stock that would work.  Does anybody have a suggestion for a
source, or better yet something laying around the garage that would work and
you'd be willing to sell?  I can provide the specific measurements if
anybody
has a candidate.

If anybody is going to be at Frank's this weekend, I plan to bring both
covers
with me for comparisons... (crossing my fingers there)

Thanks,
 - David
'71 MIdget
Long Island
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 06:33:30 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:33:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a cap for an aluminum valve cover
In-Reply-To: <834233.30491.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <834233.30491.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DB851A.9030302@lehigh.edu>

David Booker wrote:
> I bought two vintage finned aluminum valve covers a few months ago at a garage
> sale.  Either / both would work on my 1275.  Problem is that niether have a
> cap.  I have been unsuccessful at finding one so far.  The cap I need screws
> on in the same manner as our gas caps do - with the bits that hold it on
> around the outside of the filler neck - opposite of how a radiator cap is held
> on where the slots are inside the neck. 
>  
> I sent the dimensions of what I need to Moss, but they were unable to find
> anything in stock that would work.  Does anybody have a suggestion for a
> source, or better yet something laying around the garage that would work and
> you'd be willing to sell?  I can provide the specific measurements if anybody
> has a candidate. 
>   
Hi David,
I went through this last year after buying an aluminum valve cover on 
ebay, and yes it looks as though a gas cap would fit. Chuck Christ 
happened to be working on a Spit, and we found that the oil cap from a 
1300cc Spitfire fit perfectly. Apparently these were covers sold by Moss 
in the UK, and Jim Knight from British Racing Green helped me find the 
correct Moss part number for the nice chrome version of this cap as 
pictured in the link below.
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Johns-Projects&id=mossspitcap
http://www.brgparts.com/
John
Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 07:11:16 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:11:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
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Matt Hagopian wrote:
> what one of
> those pics doesnt show is on the piston, there is a 1/2" dent in the top of
> the piston. cylinder walls are a little gashed. freshen up the motor this
> winter. compression is only 160 in that cylinder and 165 in two others and
> one cyliner is 185. kind of low for 13:1 pistons, rocker arm has a crack in
> it... seems to have held up for this whole weekend. I put flat valves in, i
> know thats not as good of flow but it allows for more clearance. I dont
know
> the spring pressure im running tho... how do i find out?
>
>
> The high duration cam with it's increased overlap lowers the actual
compression, and that's why these cams require more CR. For example, 286
degrees cam edneeds at least 10:1, and a 300 degree cam might need 12:1. The
difference in your readings is worrysome and the cylinders may need to be
re-sized to get rid of the gashes. There are small spring testers available
that work with a bench vise, but you will need a telescopic gauge to precise
length measurements from your head with valves and retainers installed. There
are spring testers available that the stock car guys use on assembled engines
to check seat pressures at the track, but I can't say if they'll fit our
rocker arms. I do all of the prep on the bench. With a matched cam kit you'd
only need to setup the pressure on the seat for all of the valves, but mixed
components may have you also calculating the spring pressure over the nose of
the lobe using your cam lift, rocker ratio and geometry. With the wrong
springs you can have the correct seat pressure and be excessive over the nose,
and just bolting 1.5:1 rockers on a race cam made for 1.28 rockers could give
the same problem. Potential problems are excessive wear, frictional HP loss,
and component breakage. The top end details must be correct for reliability.
Just about any of the engine building books out there will show the tools and
procedures needed.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 07:26:51 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:26:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <6C80E729523E45E6AEA6A0AE8123316A@GuyLaptop>
References: <6C80E729523E45E6AEA6A0AE8123316A@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <48DB919B.6060408@lehigh.edu>

Guy Weller wrote:
> Matt,
>
> <<the timing gear was "rekeyed" to 102 teeth..>>
>
> Not sure that really makes any sense.  But "Rekeyed to 102 DEGREES might.
> The cam shaft may have been set to 102 degrees ATDC for max lift on #1 inlet
> valve. This could be done with vernier timing gears, a stepped woodruff key
> or a re-cut keyway.
>
> Depending on the cam shaft specification 102 degrees could make sense.
>
> Guy
>
>   
I think Guy is correct, and if it was timed at 102 degrees we know why 
there is intake valve interference. The cams I've used had recommended 
timing at 110 degrees ATDC. With the 948 we advanced 2 degrees and 
that's a long way from 102. Typically the cam will retard as the chain 
wears, so it may have been incorrectly assembled?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 25 10:22:38 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:22:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a cap for an aluminum valve cover
Message-ID: <c75.3b998777.360d14ce@aol.com>

If you find that doesn't work because the cap is an odd size (like the  
Oselli alloy rocker cover) an alternative is to convert to a monza flip cap  which 
requires a threaded aluminium sleeve (available to purchase with the cap)  
welded to the cover.
 
I'm about to convert my Weslake cap to the Monza cap and hoped someone had  
already done this.  With the capless Oselli cap I might just sell it for  
someone else to do the conversion.
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2008 13:33:51 GMT Daylight Time, jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  
writes:

David  Booker wrote:
> I bought two vintage finned aluminum valve covers a few  months ago at a 
garage
> sale.  Either / both would work on my  1275.  Problem is that niether have a
> cap.  I have been  unsuccessful at finding one so far.  The cap I need 
screws
> on in  the same manner as our gas caps do - with the bits that hold it on
>  around the outside of the filler neck - opposite of how a radiator cap is  
held
> on where the slots are inside the neck. 
>  
> I  sent the dimensions of what I need to Moss, but they were unable to  find
> anything in stock that would work.  Does anybody have a  suggestion for a
> source, or better yet something laying around the  garage that would work 
and
> you'd be willing to sell?  I can  provide the specific measurements if 
anybody
> has a candidate.  
>   
Hi David,
I went through this last year after  buying an aluminum valve cover on 
ebay, and yes it looks as though a gas  cap would fit. Chuck Christ 
happened to be working on a Spit, and we found  that the oil cap from a 
1300cc Spitfire fit perfectly. Apparently these  were covers sold by Moss 
in the UK, and Jim Knight from British Racing  Green helped me find the 
correct Moss part number for the nice chrome  version of this cap as 
pictured in the link  below.
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Johns-Projects&
id=mossspitcap
http://www.brgparts.com/
John

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Sep 25 10:55:03 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:55:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <48DB919B.6060408@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>

My SPVP3 cam from APT came with a 102 Degree timing spec.
Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
John Caffrey
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:27 AM
To: Guy Weller
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?


Guy Weller wrote:
> Matt,
>
> <<the timing gear was "rekeyed" to 102 teeth..>>
>
> Not sure that really makes any sense.  But "Rekeyed to 102 DEGREES might.
> The cam shaft may have been set to 102 degrees ATDC for max lift on #1
inlet
> valve. This could be done with vernier timing gears, a stepped woodruff
key
> or a re-cut keyway.
>
> Depending on the cam shaft specification 102 degrees could make sense.
>
> Guy
>
>
I think Guy is correct, and if it was timed at 102 degrees we know why
there is intake valve interference. The cams I've used had recommended
timing at 110 degrees ATDC. With the 948 we advanced 2 degrees and
that's a long way from 102. Typically the cam will retard as the chain
wears, so it may have been incorrectly assembled?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 11:03:44 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:03:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF photos
In-Reply-To: <85110.55085.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <85110.55085.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DBC470.7070905@lehigh.edu>

   Ron Soave wrote:

     Terrible  pic  on  Rick  Haynes's  site, sportsandimports.biz under
     engine  and  driveline  section.  I  have  a pic on a recently died
     computer  I'll  get  soon.  PN on box is 61-041. It's really just a
     ball  throwout  bearing  with  a cast piece that rides on the input
     shaft  in  front  of the stock bearing. You have to ream the center
     bushing  or  turn the input shaft down. No one seemed to be able to
     tell  me  why  anyone  would turn the shaft when reaming is so much
     easier.

   Ron,
   Thanks  for the info. You jogged my memory about why it was decided to
   fabricate a guide tube. The price for that guided bearing is more than
   twice what the regular release bearing (61-635 ?) costs, and of course
   it has to be reamed or the input shaft modified. My guide tube will be
   welded  to a plate which bolts on top of the front cover, but I didn't
   have enough parts assembled yet to get the length dimensions to finish
   the design. You know this has been done by many people over the years,
   but  few  people keep the documentation after all of that design work,
   and the few that do can't find it.
   I  have  heard  of  several  of the SCCA fast guys having trouble with
   excessive wear on the hubs of Tilton's discs which can cause a variety
   of  problems. You may want to keep an eye on that. Hard to believe for
   what  a  racing disc costs these days. Bob Griffith (BHP Developments)
   is making his own discs with properly hardened hubs and kevlar lining,
   it  takes  a  special  spacer  because  it's  thicker.  It  was tested
   successfully in several races this year on a 5.5" single plate clutch,
   but he'll probably be doing 7.25" discs also.
   John

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 11:32:17 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:32:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <48DBCB21.1080501@lehigh.edu>

Hal Faulkner wrote:
> My SPVP3 cam from APT came with a 102 Degree timing spec.
> Hal
>
>   
Hal,
I just looked through the Kent Cams catalog, and the list for A-series 
engines is long. There were timing figures spanning the range from 100 
to 112 degrees, regardless of whether the cam was road or race. Way too 
many variables involved to make an assumption on what the cam timing 
should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and I stand corrected.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Sep 25 11:43:25 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:43:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<48DBCB21.1080501@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <37DB0199AD404F7183323F7442F55392@NilesAD.von.gov>

>... Way too 
> many variables involved to make an assumption on what the cam timing 
> should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and I stand corrected.

Are we allowed to say things like that on this List????

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 12:14:05 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:14:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <37DB0199AD404F7183323F7442F55392@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<48DBCB21.1080501@lehigh.edu>
	<37DB0199AD404F7183323F7442F55392@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48DBD4ED.3000709@lehigh.edu>

David Lieb wrote:
>> ... Way too many variables involved to make an assumption on what the 
>> cam timing should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and I stand 
>> corrected.
>
> Are we allowed to say things like that on this List????
It didn't hurt so much to say it, but I don't want to make it a habit. I 
work with "Experts", so I know I'm not one of those! <bg>
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Thu Sep 25 13:54:32 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:54:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <37DB0199AD404F7183323F7442F55392@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKENLILAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<48DBCB21.1080501@lehigh.edu>
	<37DB0199AD404F7183323F7442F55392@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809251254h1212ac8mfffa099799d3f65a@mail.gmail.com>

i just looked on his website, you were right, re-keyed to 102 degrees. cam
is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
beside this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers (that have a small crack in
them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to use?

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> >... Way too
> > many variables involved to make an assumption on what the cam timing
> > should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and I stand corrected.
>
> Are we allowed to say things like that on this List????
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-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Thu Sep 25 14:14:40 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:14:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <48DB8DF4.2050105@lehigh.edu>
References: <87a1f55d0809241816m5c1b91ease595a328fd434ee8@mail.gmail.com>
	<10899A49ACA44D47AEA41D0F1033663F@midget>
	<87a1f55d0809242238n78f4a63ax61430dd695cafeb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48DB8DF4.2050105@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809251314rd838597o319faf688319e055@mail.gmail.com>

thanks for all of the advice guys,
sounds like to me that we will be building a whole new engine this winter..
new cams, new springs, new rocker arms. i just read somewhere that when you
install a new cam you need to install new pushrods and lifters, is this
true?

Any suggestions for some good kits? race car only. and would like the most
hp and decent reliablity. there was a lot of head work done already. intake
and exhaust valves are larger.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:11 AM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>
>> what one of
>> those pics doesnt show is on the piston, there is a 1/2" dent in the top
>> of
>> the piston. cylinder walls are a little gashed. freshen up the motor this
>> winter. compression is only 160 in that cylinder and 165 in two others and
>> one cyliner is 185. kind of low for 13:1 pistons, rocker arm has a crack
>> in
>> it... seems to have held up for this whole weekend. I put flat valves in,
>> i
>> know thats not as good of flow but it allows for more clearance. I dont
>> know
>> the spring pressure im running tho... how do i find out?
>>
>>  The high duration cam with it's increased overlap lowers the actual
>> compression, and that's why these cams require more CR. For example, 286
>> degrees cam edneeds at least 10:1, and a 300 degree cam might need 12:1. The
>> difference in your readings is worrysome and the cylinders may need to be
>> re-sized to get rid of the gashes. There are small spring testers available
>> that work with a bench vise, but you will need a telescopic gauge to precise
>> length measurements from your head with valves and retainers installed.
>> There are spring testers available that the stock car guys use on assembled
>> engines to check seat pressures at the track, but I can't say if they'll fit
>> our rocker arms. I do all of the prep on the bench. With a matched cam kit
>> you'd only need to setup the pressure on the seat for all of the valves, but
>> mixed components may have you also calculating the spring pressure over the
>> nose of the lobe using your cam lift, rocker ratio and geometry. With the
>> wrong springs you can have the correct seat pressure and be excessive over
>> the nose, and just bolting 1.5:1 rockers on a race cam made for 1.28 rockers
>> could give the same problem. Potential problems are excessive wear,
>> frictional HP loss, and component breakage. The top end details must be
>> correct for reliability. Just about any of the engine building books out
>> there will show the tools and procedures needed.
>>
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Sep 25 14:50:44 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809251314rd838597o319faf688319e055@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFCEOHILAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Matt,
The first thing I would reccommend is that you get a copy of David Vizard's
book, "How To Tune the A Series Engine."
New lifters are a certainty.  Push rods are not so much of a certainty,
although they aren't that much of an expense.  You may be able to replace
individual rocker arms and the shaft if you know which ones you have.  Since
you vehicle had an APT cam that might be an obvious place to look.
Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Matt Hagopian
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 1:15 PM
To: John Caffrey
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] the engine catasrophe


thanks for all of the advice guys,
sounds like to me that we will be building a whole new engine this winter..
new cams, new springs, new rocker arms. i just read somewhere that when you
install a new cam you need to install new pushrods and lifters, is this
true?

Any suggestions for some good kits? race car only. and would like the most
hp and decent reliablity. there was a lot of head work done already. intake
and exhaust valves are larger.

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Sep 25 15:24:07 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:24:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <6851313.1222377848490.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

   Matt Hagopian wrote:

   ----------------------------------------------------------------
   --------

   i just looked on his website, you were right, re-keyed to 102 degrees.
   cam is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
   beside  this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers (that have a small crack
   in them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to use?

   Matt,

   There aren't many options for aluminum 1.5 roller rockers anymore. One
   variety  has  needle bearings in the bore, and a cheaper version has a
   bushed  bore, they both have rollers on the valve end. There is a high
   quality  set  imported  from  the  UK,  and  I  only  know  of the two
   manufacturers.  You  have  to  call some of the suppliers to see whats
   available.  APT,  Seven  Enterprises, Sports & Imports, and Mini-Mania
   are  suppliers  for  race  parts  I have used. Be prepared for sticker
   shock  on  the  rocker  arms,  recently I saw the UK aluminum roller &
   needle bearing 1.5 rockers selling for $795/set.

   I  wouldn't use that cracked rocker any longer. I once had an aluminum
   rocker  break,  and the remaining stub pressed on the retainer causing
   the keepers to fall out, and you know the rest...

   John

   Fogelsville, PA

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 25 15:59:26 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:59:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <bce.3835ff2c.360d63be@aol.com>

Whose 1.5 rockers are they?  If they are Titan's rocker they will sell  you 
an individual rocker.
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2008 20:55:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
mhagopian at hoppetool.com writes:

I have a  1.5 high lift rockers (that have a small crack in
them) anyone have any  suggestions which rocker to use?

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 25 16:02:08 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:02:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <ca0.3d37fb5a.360d6460@aol.com>

APT sells Titan parts _www.titan.uk.net_ (http://www.titan.uk.net) 
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2008 22:24:27 GMT Daylight Time, jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  
writes:

There is  a high
quality  set  imported  from   the  UK,  

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Sep 25 16:44:34 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:44:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <EFBD4E8F-129D-439B-867D-C8190E7C7EDE@mac.com>
Message-ID: <20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

I thought so too so I cleaned them out.  I do not have any gas leaks now,
but the pump never stops like it did before.

I'm just worried something will blow while driving it.  I was amazed how
much gas pours out when it has no where to go anymore...

I recall someone saying something about it sucking air somewhere?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Kitterer Bob
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:35 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question

Chris,

It seem like you got a small particle stuck in the float needle  
valve.  "Clean" gas may not be really clean.  Are you using fuel  
filters?


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 25 17:12:39 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809251254h1212ac8mfffa099799d3f65a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <709766.87533.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Guys, guys, guys....

This motor was bulletproof for years before Matt got the car when Kris Larsen and Bud had it. The car had an SPVP4, I think. A valve bound and stuck open, 99%. 

Ron


--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:
> i just looked on his website, you were right, re-keyed to
> 102 degrees. cam
> is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
> beside this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers (that have a
> small crack in
> them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to use?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, David Lieb
> <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
> 
> > >... Way too
> > > many variables involved to make an assumption on
> what the cam timing
> > > should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and
> I stand corrected.
> >
> > Are we allowed to say things like that on this
> List????
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Matt Hagopian
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 25 17:16:48 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:16:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <EFBD4E8F-129D-439B-867D-C8190E7C7EDE@mac.com>
	<20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <CBDBBFA9F03A482DB30FA69FEA91E33A@spider>

The electric fuel pump should stop making the hammer sound after a few
seconds. Ours stops way when the fuel bowls are full and the floats close
the fuel flow. So something isn't right. Air maybe. Check your fuel pressure
if you have a way. Some of the emissions cars have fuel recirculation
circuits.  ...bill in Oregon

==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Chris Manuel
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:45 PM
To: 'Kitterer Bob'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question

I thought so too so I cleaned them out.  I do not have any gas leaks now,
but the pump never stops like it did before.

I'm just worried something will blow while driving it.  I was amazed how
much gas pours out when it has no where to go anymore...

I recall someone saying something about it sucking air somewhere?

Chris

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 25 17:25:20 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:25:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <EFBD4E8F-129D-439B-867D-C8190E7C7EDE@mac.com>
	<20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W5192BDDDD063D6A0D43969CA440@phx.gbl>

Two possibilities that I can think of right off-
1/ the crud in the fuel tank is holding one of the check-valves (one-way
valves) partially open and not allowing pressure to build-up, thus it
continues to tick (do you have a filter between the tank and the pump?).
2/ the pump diaphram is ruptured and a fire is imminent, be careful. If any
fuel is leaking from the wrong places of the pump them DON"T use it!.
Bill

> From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com
> To: bkitterer at mac.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:44:34 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
>
> I thought so too so I cleaned them out.  I do not have any gas leaks now,
> but the pump never stops like it did before.
>
> I'm just worried something will blow while driving it.  I was amazed how
> much gas pours out when it has no where to go anymore...
>
> I recall someone saying something about it sucking air somewhere?
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Kitterer Bob
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:35 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
>
> Chris,
>
> It seem like you got a small particle stuck in the float needle
> valve.  "Clean" gas may not be really clean.  Are you using fuel
> filters?
>
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
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> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Sep 25 20:26:12 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:26:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
Message-ID: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>

The economic "melt-down" is likely to increase the number of Spridgets and other toys entering the market.  What are the list's opinions on the quality of the cars most likely to become available?  Will people give up and sell unfinished projects to get out from under them?  Or will they sell their finished cars to get more money?    

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Sep 25 20:32:29 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:32:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
References: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4nhlrv@email.mtu.edu>

I'm hoping for another Economic Stimulus check to put more $ into my 
hobby! However, it looks like Uncle Sam will want it all back with 
very much interest - and more.

At 10:26 PM 9/25/2008, Michael Rowe wrote:
>The economic "melt-down" is likely to increase the number of 
>Spridgets and other toys entering the market.  What are the list's 
>opinions on the quality of the cars most likely to become 
>available?  Will people give up and sell unfinished projects to get 
>out from under them?  Or will they sell their finished cars to get 
>more money?
>
>Michael Rowe
>'74 Midget
>Long Island, NY

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Sep 25 20:37:02 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:37:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
Message-ID: <F135660D14144E968A682A0370887C21@Dell9200>

It seems apparent to me that all you have to do is stop in on the boys in 
Washington and they will hand you a few hundred thousand to help you keep 
your Spridget.  Therefore cars that were worthless are now worth thousands, 
so pick up a few spares while you still can.

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com



The economic "melt-down" is likely to increase the number of Spridgets and 
other toys entering the market.  What are the list's opinions on the quality 
of the cars most likely to become available?  Will people give up and sell 
unfinished projects to get out from under them?  Or will they sell their 
finished cars to get more money?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 25 21:10:47 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:10:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
References: <F30A483D-9399-405F-A707-D40511229E05@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <95DDD61D-06F1-4284-814E-A8D21C455DD2@roadrunner.com>

> Just curious--- Who's going to Frank's this weekend?  I will be  
> there on Saturday to pick up Father Jack's Midget, and I'm  
> wondering who I'm going to meet   (:
>
> Unfortunately, we won't be able to stay long, as my pet sitter has  
> to leave at 5:00 PM on Saturday, so we need to be home Saturday  
> night or the dog may leave some surprises on the floor for us    ):

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 25 21:11:07 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:11:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget for sale
References: <B21B4057-7AA7-4328-A5D3-24B1F4A4149C@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <AF07DFFE-E28A-4865-AF3F-74FF1E5C5CB3@roadrunner.com>

> Since I'm buying Father Jack's Midget this weekend, and I'm not  
> allowed to keep three of them (I have a parts car too), I have to  
> sell my '74.  I thought I'd offer it up to the list first, before I  
> take out ads in the papers or internet, so here goes.......
>
> 1974 MG Midget (round wheel arch). Needs kingpin rebuild.  Needs  
> some rust repair in the usual places.  I don't have the time to do  
> the work, so it's been parked for a couple years.  I have not  
> started it this year, because I don't want to run the very old gas  
> in the tank through it, so it will probably need a little tweaking  
> to get started (drain gas tank, get new battery), but shouldn't  
> take much.  Interior is in good shape.  Rather than let it  
> deteriorate further, I'd like to send it to a good home.  Make me  
> an offer I can't refuse.  Call my cell at 716-479-2996 if  
> interested (leave a voice mail).  Car is located in suburban  
> Buffalo, NY.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Nory

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 25 22:16:46 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:16:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <95DDD61D-06F1-4284-814E-A8D21C455DD2@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEENDOAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<as my pet sitter has to leave at 5:00 PM on Saturday,>>

Cuff 'em to the front door knob, Nory !!

<G>

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Thu Sep 25 21:27:59 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:27:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEENDOAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEENDOAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <25AF538D-99CE-437E-A37C-24B75CF0B74F@roadrunner.com>

She's only 15.  I think I could get in a lot of trouble for that.


On Sep 26, 2008, at 12:16 AM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> <<as my pet sitter has to leave at 5:00 PM on Saturday,>>
>
> Cuff 'em to the front door knob, Nory !!
>
> <G>

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 25 22:14:36 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <95DDD61D-06F1-4284-814E-A8D21C455DD2@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <470605.27157.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I plan to arrive Friday afternoon sometime from Long Island and stay till
Sunday unless Frank kicks me out before-hand.  Oh wait - he can't kick right
now...
 - David Booker

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, Nory <nory1 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

From: Nory <nory1 at roadrunner.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 10:10 PM

> Just curious--- Who's going to Frank's this weekend?  I will be
> there on Saturday to pick up Father Jack's Midget, and I'm
> wondering who I'm going to meet   (:
>
> Unfortunately, we won't be able to stay long, as my pet sitter has
> to leave at 5:00 PM on Saturday, so we need to be home Saturday
> night or the dog may leave some surprises on the floor for us    ):
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From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Sep 26 00:05:21 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:05:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
Message-ID: <20080926060533.0D8DC18763D@autox.team.net>

Last year I sold my bug-I road car for half it's value according to the
state of Illinois. So now I ponder what to do with the rest of my
collection. The only way I can figure to help the most of you on the list
without hurting my own pride is to destroy it all.  Just think how much more
your original bug-I will be worth with one less on the market, Datsun
5-speed trannys, rebuild kits with the "old" good syncros will go up, 948,
1098, & 1275 engines will become twice as valuable. The greatest gain will
be to anybody that has a set of H1 1 1/4" carbs or the close rato smothcase
tranny.  No need to thank me it is the least I can do for you all.
		Crash 

The economic "melt-down" is likely to increase the number of Spridgets and
other toys entering the market.  What are the list's opinions on the quality
of the cars most likely to become available?  Will people give up and sell
unfinished projects to get out from under them?  Or will they sell their
finished cars to get more money?    

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Sep 26 02:10:15 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:10:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question
In-Reply-To: <20080925224434.SUOA1931.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <B8A8A193CEEE4CE1AE6546CD5080FCFE@GuyLaptop>

Chris,
A fairly common fault is a perished rubber hose between the tank and the
pump. The cracks may close up so that it may not leak petrol, but can still
allow the pump to draw in air under suction. If the pump draws air it can
still deliver fuel, but will also run continuously rather than cutting off
as it should when the float bowls are full.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Chris Manuel
Sent: 25 September 2008 23:45
To: 'Kitterer Bob'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question


I thought so too so I cleaned them out.  I do not have any gas leaks now,
but the pump never stops like it did before.

I'm just worried something will blow while driving it.  I was amazed how
much gas pours out when it has no where to go anymore...

I recall someone saying something about it sucking air somewhere?

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Kitterer Bob
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:35 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd fuel pump question

Chris,

It seem like you got a small particle stuck in the float needle
valve.  "Clean" gas may not be really clean.  Are you using fuel
filters?


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 26 06:40:01 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
References: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
Message-ID: <48DCD821.4020102@frontiernet.net>

My guess would be a bit of both.  People who can afford to finish their 
cars will do so, others will be selling projects.

Kate
>  Will people give up and sell unfinished projects to get out from under them?  Or will they sell their finished cars to get more money?    
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 26 06:42:42 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:42:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C74C7C9554EF4A8BAB5AA7828624ECDD@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>

Off the top of my head, I would guess that there will be a lot hidden in 
barns while people let their homes go.

Our little cars aren't worth a lot, so the funds would be like a band-aid in 
the big scheme of things.

I 'think' that projects sell at a loss, and unfortunately, generally 
speaking, parted out cars probably bring in the most dollars ( but also 
require more effort. ).

----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>

The economic "melt-down" is likely to increase the number of Spridgets and 
other toys entering the market.  What are the list's opinions on the quality 
of the cars most likely to become available?  Will people give up and sell 
unfinished projects to get out from under them?  Or will they sell their 
finished cars to get more money?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 26 06:46:47 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:46:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <20080926060533.0D8DC18763D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36BD88479F0B99D8BFDC3BB8470@phx.gbl>

Are you saying that you own 1/2 of the a-series engines!!! ?  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>

948, 1098, & 1275 engines will become twice as valuable.
		Crash

From bighealey at charter.net  Fri Sep 26 06:58:16 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:58:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 32/36 fuel pumps and ignition spark
Message-ID: <86D33F5FB0DC46489AB47F9B192542EA@TRACY>

Oh clever ones,



I am planning the fuel system on a stock 1500 motor with header.



So far I have a Pierce manifold and Weber 32/36 downdraft setup in hand and
a hard fuel line that ends at the lower rear engine bay near the old
mechanical fuel pump location.

I have a mechanical fuel pump block off plate as I do not intent to use the
pulsing mechanical stock pump.  My intention is to use a Carter 4070 fuel
pump which will produce high volume (to keep the float bowl full) low
pressure (4-6 PSI continuous duty) which is recommended for the 32/36
downdraft.



My question is pump about location.  I commonly have placed pumps on Healeys
(big and little) in the rear under the car near and below the tank outlet.
I do not want to put the pump down there since getting to it is a major pain
for me (besides not wanting to cut the solid line).  I will also forego a
pressure regulator



Where shall I put the pump?



1) Engine bay driver's side.

2) Where the charcoal canister used to be.

3) ??



How much of a concern is having the pump 4 feet down the hard-line from the
fuel source?

Shouldn't the pump be located as low as possible?



hummmmm



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 07:07:35 2008
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:07:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber 32/36 fuel pumps and ignition spark
In-Reply-To: <86D33F5FB0DC46489AB47F9B192542EA@TRACY>
References: <86D33F5FB0DC46489AB47F9B192542EA@TRACY>
Message-ID: <abb8688a0809260607se3d337dg51a4972ec2a31eea@mail.gmail.com>

The distance to the tank is not a major problem, but the pump does
need to be as low as possible to insure that it will get fuel when it
is dry.  One thing to watch, tese pumps do tend to run warm, and don't
like being over-heated.  I had one that was constantly failing till
someone pointed out I had it mounted too close to the exhaust.  3"
further away and it worked fine.

Also be aware the DGV style Webers are a little sensitive to fuel
pressure.  Mine likes about 2.5 - 3 psi.  I recommend using the
regulator with any electric pump.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:
> Oh clever ones,
>
>
>
> I am planning the fuel system on a stock 1500 motor with header.
>
>
>
> So far I have a Pierce manifold and Weber 32/36 downdraft setup in hand and
> a hard fuel line that ends at the lower rear engine bay near the old
> mechanical fuel pump location.
>
> I have a mechanical fuel pump block off plate as I do not intent to use the
> pulsing mechanical stock pump.  My intention is to use a Carter 4070 fuel
> pump which will produce high volume (to keep the float bowl full) low
> pressure (4-6 PSI continuous duty) which is recommended for the 32/36
> downdraft.
>
>
>
> My question is pump about location.  I commonly have placed pumps on Healeys
> (big and little) in the rear under the car near and below the tank outlet.
> I do not want to put the pump down there since getting to it is a major pain
> for me (besides not wanting to cut the solid line).  I will also forego a
> pressure regulator
>
>
>
> Where shall I put the pump?
>
>
>
> 1) Engine bay driver's side.
>
> 2) Where the charcoal canister used to be.
>
> 3) ??
>
>
>
> How much of a concern is having the pump 4 feet down the hard-line from the
> fuel source?
>
> Shouldn't the pump be located as low as possible?
>
>
>
> hummmmm
>
>
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Sep 26 07:33:14 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:33:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type button question..
Message-ID: <70CF5D32-64AB-4E39-9849-86F09CBF24BC@comcast.net>

Morning all,

do any of you know the temp range  for the plastic buttons being used  
to keep the wristpin in the piston?  and where they are sold?

Thanks,

Lester

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Sep 26 07:50:34 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:50:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type button question..
In-Reply-To: <70CF5D32-64AB-4E39-9849-86F09CBF24BC@comcast.net>
References: <70CF5D32-64AB-4E39-9849-86F09CBF24BC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48DCE8AA.70604@lehigh.edu>

Lester wrote:
> Morning all,
>
> do any of you know the temp range  for the plastic buttons being used  
> to keep the wristpin in the piston?  and where they are sold?
>
>
>   
Lester,
Can't tell you where to buy them, I made my own buttons from teflon rod. 
The upper temperature range for virgin teflon is at least 400F. Don't 
use glass-filled teflon, too abrasive.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From bighealey at charter.net  Fri Sep 26 07:57:08 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:57:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new windscreen in Midget Frame
Message-ID: <A85A3819F6584CBFBFB72954D0A37B10@TRACY>

I have a new windscreen and seal kit for the Unholy Midget project.

 

What are the secrets for installation from the Tribal Knowledge Archives of
Legends?

 

I broke a windscreen on my Big Healey when installing years back and this
time will ask advice (uncharacteristic of me I know..... grin)

 

Thanks to the Tribal Elders in advance

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Sep 26 08:02:00 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:02:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type button question..
In-Reply-To: <48DCE8AA.70604@lehigh.edu>
References: <70CF5D32-64AB-4E39-9849-86F09CBF24BC@comcast.net>
	<48DCE8AA.70604@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <CDA1DDC3-9FFA-4F13-AB51-98A0AB40CD61@comcast.net>

Ok, how does that measure up to exhaust gas temps? ie how would an  
800F exhaust temp compare to the 400F cylinder temp?  Or would that  
simply melt the plastic?
On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:50 AM, John Caffrey wrote:

> Lester wrote:
>> Morning all,
>>
>> do any of you know the temp range  for the plastic buttons being  
>> used  to keep the wristpin in the piston?  and where they are sold?
>>
>>
>>
> Lester,
> Can't tell you where to buy them, I made my own buttons from teflon  
> rod. The upper temperature range for virgin teflon is at least 400F.  
> Don't use glass-filled teflon, too abrasive.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Sep 26 08:07:36 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:07:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type button question..
In-Reply-To: <CDA1DDC3-9FFA-4F13-AB51-98A0AB40CD61@comcast.net>
References: <70CF5D32-64AB-4E39-9849-86F09CBF24BC@comcast.net>
	<48DCE8AA.70604@lehigh.edu>
	<CDA1DDC3-9FFA-4F13-AB51-98A0AB40CD61@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48DCECA8.1040804@lehigh.edu>

Lester wrote:
> Ok, how does that measure up to exhaust gas temps? ie how would an 
> 800F exhaust temp compare to the 400F cylinder temp?  Or would that 
> simply melt the plastic?
> On Sep 26, 2008, at 8:50 AM, John Caffrey wrote:
>
>> Lester wrote:
>>> Morning all,
>>>
>>> do any of you know the temp range  for the plastic buttons being 
>>> used  to keep the wristpin in the piston?  and where they are sold?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Lester,
>> Can't tell you where to buy them, I made my own buttons from teflon 
>> rod. The upper temperature range for virgin teflon is at least 400F. 
>> Don't use glass-filled teflon, too abrasive.
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>>
Yes it would melt. It decomposes to a toxic gas around 450-500F. Never 
thought about a two stroke application, and don't know of any plastics 
that can operate there.
John

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 08:18:55 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:18:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <470605.27157.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <470605.27157.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DCEF4F.8090106@gmail.com>

He can still wack you with a crutch.

David Booker wrote:
> I plan to arrive Friday afternoon sometime from Long Island and stay till
> Sunday unless Frank kicks me out before-hand.  Oh wait - he can't kick right
> now...
>  - David Booker

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 26 08:24:51 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <48DCEF4F.8090106@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74199.41931.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"He can still wack you with a crutch."


Good point. But I'm still pretty quick.  Will probably be alright.
 
 - David

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 08:29:47 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:29:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Installing a new windscreen in Midget Frame
In-Reply-To: <A85A3819F6584CBFBFB72954D0A37B10@TRACY>
References: <A85A3819F6584CBFBFB72954D0A37B10@TRACY>
Message-ID: <d66433d0809260729h65be821eo74728d42d552b7c4@mail.gmail.com>

Tracy,

When I replaced mine tie down straps, the ratcheting kind, helped out
a lot.  I used a few of them to pull and hold everything together
while I screwed it all back together.

-g

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:
> I have a new windscreen and seal kit for the Unholy Midget project.
>
>
>
> What are the secrets for installation from the Tribal Knowledge Archives of
> Legends?
>
>
>
> I broke a windscreen on my Big Healey when installing years back and this
> time will ask advice (uncharacteristic of me I know..... grin)
>
>
>
> Thanks to the Tribal Elders in advance
>
>
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 26 09:32:06 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:32:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You guys are too pessimistic. We got through the Carter years. I don't think
this will be any worse. Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
anything really stupid.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 09:55:32 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:55:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>,
	<C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48DCA384.3597.6E043F@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Are you saying Congress doesn't do anything stupid????
Hmmmmmmmm  !!

Opposite of 'Pro' = 'Con'
Opposite of Progress = ????

On 26 Sep 2008 at 8:32, Billy Zoom wrote:
>  Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
> anything really stupid.

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 09:56:24 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster))
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:56:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>
	<C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0809260856o6a0642feg6c95c7461fa825f2@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>wrote:

> Even if _which-ever_ wins, congress won't let him do
> anything really stupid.
>
True that!  I mean , when was the last time Congress did anything stupid?

(Shouldn't this humor thread really be on the 9issa list?)

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 26 10:00:28 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:00:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>
	<C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <092620081600.27731.48DD071B000C612000006C5322216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

true. congress didn't let Cheney, I mean Bush, do anything wrong.

 -------------- Original message from Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>: --------------


> You guys are too pessimistic. We got through the Carter years. I don't think
> this will be any worse. Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
> anything really stupid. 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 26 10:17:35 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:17:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0809260856o6a0642feg6c95c7461fa825f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C502592F.19E3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I didn9t congress wouldn9t do anything stupid. I said they wouldn9t let a
racist, communist president do anything stupid. We9d just have four years of
nothing much getting done, except for what congress is going to do anyway.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 26 10:58:05 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:58:05 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
Message-ID: <cbe.259d1c81.360e6e9d@aol.com>

Are they rarer than the H1 1 1/8" or rarer than the H2 1 1/4"?   Enquiring 
minds want to know.
 
Crunch!
 
In a message dated 26/09/2008 07:05:56 GMT Daylight Time, dwramsey at att.net  
writes:

H1 1  1/4" carbs 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 26 11:08:00 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:08:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48DCA384.3597.6E043F@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <BAY112-F40A1CDE07C4B82E53C91F0B8470@phx.gbl>
	<C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<48DCA384.3597.6E043F@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <7A396301A04D47D688A2EDC96F59729A@Home>

If we get Sarah Palin, it doesn't matter.  God will take care of everything.

Michael Rowe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


> Are you saying Congress doesn't do anything stupid????
> Hmmmmmmmm  !!
> 
> Opposite of 'Pro' = 'Con'
> Opposite of Progress = ????
> 
> On 26 Sep 2008 at 8:32, Billy Zoom wrote:
>>  Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
>> anything really stupid.
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 26 11:37:11 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:37:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <ED2EDD27291E436797A2C717A109432B@Home>

Please remind me who lives in Pittsburgh, PA.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 26 11:36:50 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:36:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


You guys are too pessimistic. We got through the Carter years. I don't think
this will be any worse. Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
anything really stupid.
_______________________________________________

Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.

McCain just barely graduated from the Naval Academy solidly in the bottom 1 
percent of his class.

I don't think it's Obama we have to worry about being stupid.  Especially 
after Bush just gave McCain 8 years of lessons on how not to be smart.  Not 
that he needed the help.

From bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com  Fri Sep 26 11:43:02 2008
From: bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:43:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rally Benefits Kids Battling Serious Illness
Message-ID: <D7095C8F-687E-4C3B-B0FA-DBFC025976A3@blakedischer.com>

Hi everyone,

This Saturday, 33 fellow British car enthusiasts will set off on one
of three 800-mile legs of America's British Reliability Run, the
annual two-day British car rally that has raised more than $130,000
for children's charities since 2003.

Each entrant is responsible for soliciting money from friends,
enemies, family, and coworkers, and each team's goal is to raise $500.
All proceeds will go to three very deserving and highly-rated
children's charities. Be assured that 100% of all contributions will
go to charity; each team will personally bear all travel costs
including lodging, zipties, food, duct tape, and spare parts.

In Alabama, teams are raising money for Magic Moments which fulfills
the non-medical wishes of chronically ill Alabama children, providing
them an opportunity to turn away from illness and suffering  if only
for a moment  and feel what it is like to just be a kid again. For
Michigan, teams are driving to provide "camperships" to children who
otherwise might not be financially able to attend The Hemophilia
Foundation of Michigan's "Camp Bold Eagle." For Pennsylvania, we're
helping the Gia Nicole Angel Fund, whose mission is to enhance the
daily functioning of a child with special needs and his or her family
by awarding assistance through the purchase of a specific item or
items. Read more about all three charities here.

We're all very busy so let's get right to the point. If you still have
a few dollars in the tax deduction cookie jar earmarked for deserving
groups such as these, your donation would really be appreciated,
however small. You can securely use your credit card to make a
donation right now, just go to http://www.abrr.org and click on Donate
Now (in the upper right-hand corner). You can indicate which charity
should receive your donation by choosing the corresponding state's run.

If you care to learn more about the charities, see the routes, or
peruse some of the varied and outstanding examples of British cars
entered to date, ranging from a beautiful 1949 Bentley Mk VI to a 2007
Aston Martin Vantage (with a bunch of Triumphs all over the place!),
please checkout the ABRR website at http://www.abrr.org.


In gratitude,

Blake Discher, Event Founder

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 26 12:05:09 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:05:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
References: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
Message-ID: <092620081805.10531.48DD2455000AD3DC0000292322243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

you're forgetting the other part of his team:
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n
 -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>: --------------


> Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.
> 
> McCain just barely graduated from the Naval Academy solidly in the bottom 1 
> percent of his class.
> 
> I don't think it's Obama we have to worry about being stupid.  Especially 
> after Bush just gave McCain 8 years of lessons on how not to be smart.  Not 
> that he needed the help. 

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Sep 26 12:06:38 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:06:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <092620081806.4915.48DD24AE000D3DF6000013332215593414000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

the steelers, the pirates, and the penguins.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> 

> Please remind me who lives in Pittsburgh, PA. 
> 
> Michael Rowe 
> '74 Midget 
> Long Island, NY 
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From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 26 12:09:32 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:09:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
In-Reply-To: <ED2EDD27291E436797A2C717A109432B@Home>
Message-ID: <092620081809.24961.48DD255C000359EE0000618122243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

 

It's a very long list: http://www.nptc.com/phonebook/index.htm

 -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: --------------


> Please remind me who lives in Pittsburgh, PA.
> 
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY 

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 12:52:15 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:52:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
References: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
Message-ID: <48DD2F5F.7070201@verizon.net>

Remember, It WAS John McCain who only weeks ago said that
the fundamentals (whatever they are) of our economy are
strong. Did he lie? flip-flop? or just exhibit more stupidity??

It was also Bush, ultimate teller of truths, who in the 2000 campaign
impugned McCain's conduct as a POW. And why would Bushie lie??

I gave up years ago.

Larry Daniels wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> To: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>; 
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys
>
>
> You guys are too pessimistic. We got through the Carter years. I don't think
> this will be any worse. Even if Obama wins, congress won't let him do
> anything really stupid.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard Law School.
>
> McCain just barely graduated from the Naval Academy solidly in the bottom 1 
> percent of his class.
>
> I don't think it's Obama we have to worry about being stupid.  Especially 
> after Bush just gave McCain 8 years of lessons on how not to be smart.  Not 
> that he needed the help.
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 26 13:00:49 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:00:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48DD2F5F.7070201@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39667CE295A33D0A932F65B8470@phx.gbl>

It amazes me how much people can get worked up about politics.

Seems like 6 of one and a half dozen of the other to me ...

( Should I run and hide now? :) )

ED

----Original Message Follows----
From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>

I gave up years ago.

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 26 13:14:51 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:14:51 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
Message-ID: <20829040.1222456491028.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

matt,
too bad i did not see you at the event.   after many years of building spridgets i could have given you some ideas to work on.  i was camped not far from you with the '61 jaguar #38 saloon MK2 wich i built the motor for a year ago.  
i must get back to the reassembly of my '67 street saab mdl., 96 sedan.   i need an economical car to drive these days as opposed to my '94 GMC suburban 4X4 tow vehicle!  (yes my bugeye runs fine gang!   but it's not insured right now!)  (money-money-money!)   frank!  i'm related to you! you and i have the same uncle..."myfundsarelow" ....  ;)

chuck.
same darn '59 bugeye since 1974.....   

-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
>Sent: Sep 24, 2008 9:10 PM
>To: John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu>
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
>
>I am removing some of the stickers... my grandfather just bought the car 4
>weeks ago and we have been doing motor work ever since. He likes the
>"cheatin' dog" sticker.. I dont know why. it has a neighbor of " Team
>Thicko" that has had a few people come up and ask how long I have been a
>part of that team. I am having trouble with tires. bought a set of hoosiers
>and they are about 1.5 in wider then the BFG comp TA1s on there now, and the
>ta's rubbed. sat there with a bottle jack and some boards to try to flare
>out the fenders to avoid puncture. Worked out ok for a temp fix. Need some
>suggestions on tires since I spoke to some of the fellows at NJMP about
>AVONs and they said the "long lasting avons" lasted one weekend at Savannah.
>and suggestions what to do with the fenders, flare, old circle fenders,
>raise up cut out?
>
>On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 4:01 PM, John Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:
>
>> Matt Hagopian wrote:
>>
>>> That was me! qualifying time at lightening was 1:28.340, practice on
>>> saturday I dropped my time down to 1:25.808, then for the race on sunday i
>>> ran 1:24.559, I had 3 laps in the 24's and the rest of the 12 laps were less
>>> then 1 second difference minus 2 that I let the leaders by. they were within
>>> 2 seconds of fastest time.
>>>
>>> Nice consistent times. Not sure I'd want to continue to be known as the
>> "Cheatin Dog" though. <bg> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Matt Hagopian

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Sep 26 13:15:13 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:15:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39667CE295A33D0A932F65B8470@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39667CE295A33D0A932F65B8470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48DD34C1.6070509@lehigh.edu>

Robert Duquette wrote:
> It amazes me how much people can get worked up about politics.
>
> Seems like 6 of one and a half dozen of the other to me ...
>   
Robert,
We have had 8 years of the worst president in US history, and there are 
lots of people who would vote for the exact same policies. It is a very 
scary thought, and why it's so polarizing.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Fri Sep 26 13:18:06 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:18:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
Message-ID: <F5CC3AD3-0D90-4111-A324-FDE81477B285@roadrunner.com>

Heading out soon to pick up the pet sitter, and then for dinner.   
We'll be hitting the highway for New Jersey right after, and should  
be at Frank's in the morning.

If you see two blonde twenty-something Bay Watch -type babes in a red  
Corvette ---
that's not us.

We'll be the two fifty-ish women in the rented Suzuki Forenza,  
looking slighty lost and befuddled in New Jersey (but happy to be  
going home in a Spridget).

See ya'll there!


(:

-Nory

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Fri Sep 26 13:19:58 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <F5CC3AD3-0D90-4111-A324-FDE81477B285@roadrunner.com>
References: <F5CC3AD3-0D90-4111-A324-FDE81477B285@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <A41C3FD8-79B1-4259-9D1B-8F5F617C9A87@roadrunner.com>

Oh, yeah --- at least it's a RED Forenza......

-Nory


On Sep 26, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Nory wrote:

> Heading out soon to pick up the pet sitter, and then for dinner.
> We'll be hitting the highway for New Jersey right after, and should
> be at Frank's in the morning.
>
> If you see two blonde twenty-something Bay Watch -type babes in a red
> Corvette ---
> that's not us.
>
> We'll be the two fifty-ish women in the rented Suzuki Forenza,
> looking slighty lost and befuddled in New Jersey (but happy to be
> going home in a Spridget).
>
> See ya'll there!
>
>
> (:
>
> -Nory

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 13:35:41 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:35:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39667CE295A33D0A932F65B8470@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39667CE295A33D0A932F65B8470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48DD398D.80405@verizon.net>

Only if you don't give an OSHIT about your own life and
lifestyle ; < ) Some of us are so fed up with the last 7 and
some odd (??) years we'd vote for anybody with a functioning
brain. When I add up where we have been over this last reign,
I can't help in a skewed way thinking about that old movie
The Manchurian Candidate. Was Bush put in office to
totally destroy this nation?? He's sure doing a "swell
job".

chuck


Robert Duquette wrote:
> It amazes me how much people can get worked up about politics.
>
> Seems like 6 of one and a half dozen of the other to me ...
>
> ( Should I run and hide now? :) )

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 13:43:45 2008
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:43:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain
Message-ID: <37dc82d40809261243x10f4df53g94273dbf7e84e8b9@mail.gmail.com>

This is not a for or against Obama or McCain message.  I just want to make a
comment.  There is a big difference between someone being "smart" and
someone having "wisdom."   Capone was said to be very intelligent (smart),
so were several other crime figures as well as international thugs that have
crossed paths with history.

We seem to always hear about the need to have someone who is smart and
forget that the bigger issue is not just smarts, but wisdom to know what to
do with the "smarts".

Just had to jump in with my thought on this.

Kirk
59 Bugeye, 1275, rib case, elec ign, headers, weber DCOE side - etc etc
etc.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 26 14:00:35 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:00:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40809261243x10f4df53g94273dbf7e84e8b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40809261243x10f4df53g94273dbf7e84e8b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48DD3F63.9080001@frontiernet.net>

Very well said.  Many of our present political representatives and 
jurists are highly intelligent, but have absolutely no common sense.  It 
is really a shame that we can't get a recall everyone campaign started 
and start from scratch with candidates who really are representatives of 
the people.

Kate


Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> This is not a for or against Obama or McCain message.  I just want to make a
> comment.  There is a big difference between someone being "smart" and
> someone having "wisdom."   Capone was said to be very intelligent (smart),
> so were several other crime figures as well as international thugs that have
> crossed paths with history.
>
> We seem to always hear about the need to have someone who is smart and
> forget that the bigger issue is not just smarts, but wisdom to know what to
> do with the "smarts".
>
> Just had to jump in with my thought on this.
>
> Kirk
> 59 Bugeye, 1275, rib case, elec ign, headers, weber DCOE side - etc etc
> etc.

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Fri Sep 26 14:09:21 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:09:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain
In-Reply-To: <48DD3F63.9080001@frontiernet.net>
References: <37dc82d40809261243x10f4df53g94273dbf7e84e8b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48DD3F63.9080001@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <48DD4171.1040207@verizon.net>

But is it wisdom to go on for weeks wailing and claiming
that the fundamentals of the economy are strong, then want
to cancel a presidential debate because the economic sky
is falling. This ""stuff"" did not happen over night, tha knows.
Where was wisdom then??

Kathryn Bales wrote:
> Very well said.  Many of our present political representatives and 
> jurists are highly intelligent, but have absolutely no common sense.  It 
> is really a shame that we can't get a recall everyone campaign started 
> and start from scratch with candidates who really are representatives of 
> the people.

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Fri Sep 26 14:19:31 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain (guys guys guys pleeeease don't)
Message-ID: <bd0.3b9b3909.360e9dd3@aol.com>

One of the best things about the Spridgetlist is that it give us all a safe  
haven away from the continual bombardment of politics, from which none of  us 
can otherwise escape. So far this email list has been very quiet in this  
regard, much to my pleasant surprise. I'd like to respectfully request however,  
that we don't get started now clogging up everyone's inbox with political  
rhetoric and messages. If we start getting into these discussions now, I can't  
imagine what it would be like around this place during the next few months. The  
reason I come here is for my enthusiasm  for Spridgets, nothing else.
 
Thanks for listening,
Howard Collins  



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From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Sep 26 14:22:02 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:22:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] politics
Message-ID: <20080926202217.76BBC187868@autox.team.net>

I rope in Westlake with my H1 1 <carbs and you guys have to start this
s**t. bite me

                        Crash

From bighealey at charter.net  Fri Sep 26 14:44:13 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:44:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
In-Reply-To: <ED2EDD27291E436797A2C717A109432B@Home>
Message-ID: <8F60AD06742F455BBA1D19C4BAF42958@TRACY>

The Steelers?

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Michael Rowe
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:37 AM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh

Please remind me who lives in Pittsburgh, PA.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 26 14:47:38 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:47:38 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
Message-ID: <31567796.1222462058377.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

i think , i'll just go out in the shop and hide under some of my "toys" until the dust settles.....   polotics and religion are not in my "best of" catagories........
cars!  now we're taliking....   ;)

chuck.
now i gotta go grocery shopping and find out what stuff is costing "how much" this week.......(never a dull moment...)(possibly take in some debate tonight....if i'm feeling "brave"?)
-----Original Message-----
>From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>Sent: Sep 26, 2008 3:15 PM
>To: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys
>
>Robert Duquette wrote:
>> It amazes me how much people can get worked up about politics.
>>
>> Seems like 6 of one and a half dozen of the other to me ...
>>   
>Robert,
>We have had 8 years of the worst president in US history, and there are 
>lots of people who would vote for the exact same policies. It is a very 
>scary thought, and why it's so polarizing.
>John
>Fogelsville, PA

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 26 14:48:50 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:48:50 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <5480829.1222462130183.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

opposite end of the state......

chuck.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>
>Sent: Sep 26, 2008 4:44 PM
>To: 'Michael Rowe' <mdrowe at optonline.net>, 'Spridget Chat Group' <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
>
>The Steelers?
>
>Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>Michael Rowe
>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 10:37 AM
>To: Spridget Chat Group
>Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
>
>Please remind me who lives in Pittsburgh, PA.
>
>Michael Rowe
>'74 Midget
>Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 15:38:35 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:38:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain (guys guys guys pleeeease don't)
In-Reply-To: <bd0.3b9b3909.360e9dd3@aol.com>
References: <bd0.3b9b3909.360e9dd3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809261438i149fad4ev89d54db2ce665af@mail.gmail.com>

I agree.  But, as long as I've been on the list I don't recall any
problems with political junk flying around.
Too much Montana Bob and cat content, yes.  But politics?  No.
Frankly, I think Clarici sneaked over to Montana and made Montana Bob
an offer he couldn't refuse.
But, I digress.
The best thing you can do is learn how to use your email filters and
delete key.  If someone on the list annoys you, add their name to your
filter list.

I will say that this coming presidential election will make history.
Will we have a female VP or an African-American president?  Either one
will be interesting.
I would think the Elephants would be more Spridget friendly than the Donkeys.
Anyone who wants to comment can do so off list so as not to upset Mr.
Collins.  If your message isn't filtered or deleted I may even reply.
Cheers,
Derf

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 15:40:59 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:40:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain
In-Reply-To: <48DD4171.1040207@verizon.net>
References: <37dc82d40809261243x10f4df53g94273dbf7e84e8b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<48DD3F63.9080001@frontiernet.net> <48DD4171.1040207@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809261440u79b192e6gb8477afcb9d4e0bd@mail.gmail.com>

Stupid is as stupid does.
I vote for Kate.
I think she is already president of her chapter, but surely we can
promote her to something, right?

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 15:55:56 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:55:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <092620081805.10531.48DD2455000AD3DC0000292322243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
	<092620081805.10531.48DD2455000AD3DC0000292322243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809261455q49d64a99gf8f8df9af7f6bf78@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM,  <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:
> tinydog sez:
>
> you're forgetting the other part of his team:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n


I'd like to see the unedited version of that interview segment.  There
are several subtle cuts that could be omitting some very important
parts.
Don't believe everything you see, hear, and read.
Take what the big 3 have to report, divide it by what Fox News
reports, and you might find the truth somewhere in the middle.

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Sep 26 16:17:33 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:17:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910809261455q49d64a99gf8f8df9af7f6bf78@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C5024E86.19E2A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
	<092620081805.10531.48DD2455000AD3DC0000292322243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910809261455q49d64a99gf8f8df9af7f6bf78@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <092620082217.12258.48DD5F7D00064B7A00002FE222243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Are you suggesting the other parts would expose her as inexperienced or something?
 -------------- Original message from derf <derf247 at gmail.com>: --------------


> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:05 PM,   wrote:
> > tinydog sez:
> >
> > you're forgetting the other part of his team:
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4478156n
> 
> 
> I'd like to see the unedited version of that interview segment.  There
> are several subtle cuts that could be omitting some very important
> parts.
> Don't believe everything you see, hear, and read.
> Take what the big 3 have to report, divide it by what Fox News
> reports, and you might find the truth somewhere in the middle.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 26 16:52:45 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
In-Reply-To: <092620081806.4915.48DD24AE000D3DF6000013332215593414000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <669234.96524.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Joe Grushecky, too. List-wise, I think Bud does.


--- On Fri, 9/26/08, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote

> the steelers, the pirates, and the penguins.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 18:52:07 2008
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:52:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Wisdom"
Message-ID: <37dc82d40809261752n4031703bp32f4ac531ff5a40f@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed -

Kirk

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep 26 19:23:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:23:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48DD2F5F.7070201@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C502D93F.19E70%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> It WAS John McCain
I wasn't endorsing McCain. I was attacking Obama.
I don't think any of them are fit to hold office.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 19:44:28 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:44:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT
In-Reply-To: <95DDD61D-06F1-4284-814E-A8D21C455DD2@roadrunner.com>
References: <F30A483D-9399-405F-A707-D40511229E05@roadrunner.com>
	<95DDD61D-06F1-4284-814E-A8D21C455DD2@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430809261844p75e46a0te45c0dcd289ab9a2@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there after I run a few errands in the morning but I don't know if
I'll take my pink Sprite. If it is dry out I may.
See you then,
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Nory <nory1 at roadrunner.com> wrote:

> > Just curious--- Who's going to Frank's this weekend?  I will be
> > there on Saturday to pick up Father Jack's Midget, and I'm
> > wondering who I'm going to meet   (:
> >
> > Unfortunately, we won't be able to stay long, as my pet sitter has
> > to leave at 5:00 PM on Saturday, so we need to be home Saturday
> > night or the dog may leave some surprises on the floor for us    ):
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 26 20:01:48 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:01:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C502D93F.19E70%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <48DD2F5F.7070201@verizon.net>
	<C502D93F.19E70%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430809261901k28b438dmd68c759dfa26e89@mail.gmail.com>

Whoa! It just gets worse the more I listen I don't know who to vote for now.
But look on the bright side we won't have Bush : )

I can't believe I read all the posts on this topic and I even posted a
reply. It's late I must be tired.
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > It WAS John McCain
> I wasn't endorsing McCain. I was attacking Obama.
> I don't think any of them are fit to hold office.
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Sep 26 20:07:51 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:07:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh
In-Reply-To: <ED2EDD27291E436797A2C717A109432B@Home>
References: <ED2EDD27291E436797A2C717A109432B@Home>
Message-ID: <213459959.20080926190751@pacifier.com>

Hello Michael,

     isn't that what a phone book is for?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Is a Jamaican terminal a raster-farian?

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Fri Sep 26 20:10:26 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:10:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
Message-ID: <F39DC94FD7FA40D79E4DDFD449078236@Music>

How about this for a good idea.

Hi Y'all, 

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG. I'm also against the 
$700,000,000,000++ bailout being proposed in Congress right now! 

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We 
Deserve It Dividend. 

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide 
U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and 
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.. 

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals 
$425,000.00. 

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It 
Dividend. 

Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%. 
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes. That sends 
$25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam. 

But it means that ever y adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket. A 
husband and wife has $595,000.00. 

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family? 
Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved. 
Pay off credit card debt. 
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads 
Put away money for college - It'll be there for Junior. 
Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs. 
Buy a new car - create jobs 
Invest in the market - capital drives growth 
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves 
Enable Deadbeat Dad s to come clean - or else 

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks 
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is 
cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed Forces. 

If we're going to redistribute wealth let's really   do it... 

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult 
U S Citizen 18+! 

As for AIG - liquidate it. 
Sell off its parts. 
Let American General go back to being American General. 
Sell off the real estate. 
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up. 

Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't. 

Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work." 

How do you spell Economic Boom? 

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion We 
Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington 
DC. 

And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because 
$25.5 Billion is returned 
instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam. 

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest. 
Kindest personal regards, 
Birk 

T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic 

PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a 
laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 
Billion!

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Fri Sep 26 22:02:39 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:02:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <709766.87533.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809251254h1212ac8mfffa099799d3f65a@mail.gmail.com>
	<709766.87533.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809262102x7697a9cdp864ecf76a469f5c8@mail.gmail.com>

Valve keeper broke, valve head broke off in the cyliner, pieces of the valve
made its way into the adjacent cylinder and did a little damage there, as
well as scraping the cylinder walls.

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Guys, guys, guys....
>
> This motor was bulletproof for years before Matt got the car when Kris
> Larsen and Bud had it. The car had an SPVP4, I think. A valve bound and
> stuck open, 99%.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:
> > i just looked on his website, you were right, re-keyed to
> > 102 degrees. cam
> > is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
> > beside this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers (that have a
> > small crack in
> > them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to use?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, David Lieb
> > <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
> >
> > > >... Way too
> > > > many variables involved to make an assumption on
> > what the cam timing
> > > > should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and
> > I stand corrected.
> > >
> > > Are we allowed to say things like that on this
> > List????
> > >  _______________________________________________
> > > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Matt Hagopian
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>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 27 02:45:06 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:45:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain (guys guys guys pleeeease don't)
Message-ID: <cc6.3caa7299.360f4c92@aol.com>

Yeah, especially since Brown and Cameron never get a look in.
 
In a message dated 26/09/2008 21:20:10 GMT Daylight Time, Miniac7 at aol.com  
writes:

One of  the best things about the Spridgetlist is that it give us all a safe  
 
haven away from the continual bombardment of politics, from which none  of  
us 
can otherwise escape. So far this email list has been very  quiet in this  
regard, much to my pleasant surprise. I'd like to  respectfully request 
however,  
that we don't get started now clogging  up everyone's inbox with political  
rhetoric and messages. If we  start getting into these discussions now, I 
can't  
imagine what it  would be like around this place during the next few months. 
The   
reason I come here is for my enthusiasm  for Spridgets, nothing  else.

Thanks for listening,
Howard Collins   

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 27 02:48:56 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:48:56 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
Message-ID: <cc3.2d96244e.360f4d78@aol.com>

The only problem is that under your bailout the rich would no longer get  
richer and the poor would no longer get poorer.
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 27/09/2008 03:10:39 GMT Daylight Time,  
Jpaschke at bak.rr.com writes:

Our  population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and 
child.  So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.. 

So divide  200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals 
$425,000.00.  

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It  
Dividend. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Sep 27 07:08:20 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:08:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <F39DC94FD7FA40D79E4DDFD449078236@Music>
References: <F39DC94FD7FA40D79E4DDFD449078236@Music>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP12ACCFD214EA6F8CE86D34B8460@phx.gbl>

Make it even simpler ... use a calculator and divide 85,000,000,000 by
200,000,000.

( Am I doing something wron, or is that NOT 425,000. )

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Paschke

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide 
U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and 
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.. 

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals 
$425,000.00. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Sep 27 07:11:22 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:11:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP12ACCFD214EA6F8CE86D34B8460@phx.gbl>
References: <F39DC94FD7FA40D79E4DDFD449078236@Music>
	<BLU0-SMTP12ACCFD214EA6F8CE86D34B8460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP710231254FACC6ABE6B84B8460@phx.gbl>

besides my spelling ...  :)

I really should wear my glasses more often.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: September 27, 2008 9:08 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts

Make it even simpler ... use a calculator and divide 85,000,000,000 by
200,000,000.

( Am I doing something wron, or is that NOT 425,000. )

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Paschke

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide 
U.S. Citizens 18+. 

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and 
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.. 

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals 
$425,000.00. idgets

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Sat Sep 27 07:42:50 2008
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herb Miller)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:42:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP710231254FACC6ABE6B84B8460@phx.gbl>
References: <F39DC94FD7FA40D79E4DDFD449078236@Music><BLU0-SMTP12ACCFD214EA6F8CE86D34B8460@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP710231254FACC6ABE6B84B8460@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <035b01c920a6$ef4694d0$4200a8c0@HERBLAPTOP>

The 85 billion is for the AIG bailout. The proposed new overall bail out is
700 billion. 85 billion divided by 200 million = 425. Try it this way, 200
million times 425,000. You get 85 trillion. The US gross domestic product
(GDP) is only a little over 14 trillion.
 
Herb Miller
 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Duquette
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:11 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts
 
besides my spelling ...  :)
 
I really should wear my glasses more often.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: September 27, 2008 9:08 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts
 
Make it even simpler ... use a calculator and divide 85,000,000,000 by
200,000,000.
 
( Am I doing something wron, or is that NOT 425,000. )
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Paschke
 
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide 
U.S. Citizens 18+. 
 
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and 
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.. 
 
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals 
$425,000.00. idgets
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Sep 27 08:41:02 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:41:02 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <035b01c920a6$ef4694d0$4200a8c0@HERBLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <D526CCF79EAC457F9B775C475A496266@GuyLaptop>

Irrespective about the maths, the idea makes no sense at all. Since the $700
Billion isn't money stashed somewhere waiting to be handed out. It is
derived from taxes (past and future) so in order to distribute it to
everyone over 18, would require everyone over 18 to pay up the sum in taxes
in the first place.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Herb Miller
Sent: 27 September 2008 14:43
To: 'Robert Duquette'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts


The 85 billion is for the AIG bailout. The proposed new overall bail out is
700 billion. 85 billion divided by 200 million = 425. Try it this way, 200
million times 425,000. You get 85 trillion. The US gross domestic product
(GDP) is only a little over 14 trillion.

Herb Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Duquette
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 8:11 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts

besides my spelling ...  :)

I really should wear my glasses more often.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: September 27, 2008 9:08 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts

Make it even simpler ... use a calculator and divide 85,000,000,000 by
200,000,000.

( Am I doing something wron, or is that NOT 425,000. )

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Paschke

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide
U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and
child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon -- that equals
$425,000.00. idgets
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 27 08:46:24 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:46:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Momo Steering Wheel Adapter $60
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809270746w1aa5df09q501d0e6ace6301f4@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Momo steering wheel adapter that I don't need.  It is #256
and has "MGB GT 1971 - MG MIDGET 71 AUSTIN SPRITE 71 cod. 256" stamped
on the box.  It has never been used.  The center horn push button has
the "MG" Octagon and is still sealed in plastic.  The adapter is about
3" tall and has a brass horn contact ring on the bottom.  I am asking
$60 shipped, payed via PayPal.
Cheers,
Derf

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 27 09:31:39 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:31:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder - 1 to 2
Message-ID: <407C2AACFFFA4988BB18D9698E4D3E96@HomeComputer>

List,

Have any of you ever tried to replace your single combination brake/clutch
master cylinder with two separate (one for brake - one for clutch) master
cylinders while keeping the single combination master cylinder tray/pedal
assembly?

 

The Healey disk brake conversion kit (shown on page 40 of "Original Sprite &
Midget") looks like it did it by staggering the two master cylinders front
to rear.

 

Do the standard separate brake and clutch master cylinders have their
mounting flange vertical (at 12 o'clock) or at about 2 o'clock as it appears
from the Moss catalog?

 

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

From tinydog at snet.net  Sat Sep 27 10:09:08 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:09:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder - 1 to 2
In-Reply-To: <407C2AACFFFA4988BB18D9698E4D3E96@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <092720081609.22332.48DE5AA4000078E40000573C22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez: 

yes

http://www.sebringsprite.com/price_list.htm
 -------------- Original message from "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>: --------------


> List,
> 
> Have any of you ever tried to replace your single combination brake/clutch
> master cylinder with two separate (one for brake - one for clutch) master
> cylinders while keeping the single combination master cylinder tray/pedal
> assembly?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 27 10:24:21 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:24:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain (guys guys guys pleeeease don't)
In-Reply-To: <cc6.3caa7299.360f4c92@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C503AC45.19EA2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

If you'll recall, the thread started with some of you speculating as to how
our hobby would be affected by an economic recession that hasn't even
happened yet. My only point was that stuff happens, and we get through it.
If it happens, it won't be the end of the world, or our car hobby.
I'm sorry if my worst case scenario offended some of you. It was meant to be
reassuring. 
BZ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 27 10:25:00 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:25:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Newman
Message-ID: <AB918B5DCFB04DB4A340866BB754CA71@Larry>

For those who haven't heard, we just lost Paul Newman to cancer.  He was 83.

Ironically, a week ago today we were at Elkhart Lake for the Vintage Festival
and Soave, Peter C, a few others and I got on the topic of actors and
celebrities who tried their hand at racing and, of course, Newman's name was
at the top of the list.

Sorry to see him go.



Larry Daniels

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 27 10:33:26 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:33:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <035b01c920a6$ef4694d0$4200a8c0@HERBLAPTOP>
Message-ID: <C503AE66.19EA3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You're using regular math. You have to calculate it using government math.
There's a big difference.

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Sat Sep 27 10:40:54 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:40:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
References: <C503AE66.19EA3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5F44A494DEB44DE09DC0B81F96A7162F@Music>

Sorry for the bad math...

Insofar as mathematics applies to
reality it is not certain, and
so far as mathematics is certain
it does not apply to reality.
        Einstein



> You're using regular math. You have to calculate it using government math.
> There's a big difference.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 27 10:43:05 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:43:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <D526CCF79EAC457F9B775C475A496266@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <C503B0A9.19EA5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  would require everyone over 18 to pay up the sum in taxes
> in the first place.
Government math: 200,000,000 adults each pay $425,000 in taxes, and in turn
each of them receives a $425.00 government bonus check to help stimulate the
economy. Since $425 means more to a poor person than to a rich person,
redistribution of wealth is accomplished in addition to the economic
recovery stimulus. It's as clear as flowers under a bridge.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 27 11:13:01 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Newman
In-Reply-To: <AB918B5DCFB04DB4A340866BB754CA71@Larry>
Message-ID: <533416.75028.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/27/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> and Soave, Peter C, a few others and I got on the topic of
> actors and
> celebrities who tried their hand at racing and, of course,
> Newman's name was
> at the top of the list.

Along with McQueen's.

Soave

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Sat Sep 27 11:34:24 2008
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:34:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Newman
Message-ID: <c77.33d2b331.360fc8a0@aol.com>

When I lived in Connecticut, I lived about 25 miles north of Paul Newsman's 
home in Westport, CT.  One evening a group of us went out to dinner about half 
way to Westport and who was there, but Paul, his wife Joanne and another 
couple.  We were all aware of how private he was, so didn't make a commotion.  When 
they left, just as we were too, they walked by our table and he nodded and 
smiled.  Our ladies almost wet their drawers!
We got to the parking lot to see him drive off in his VW Beetle.  It was 
known that he had a Porsche engine in it.
What ever he did in life, he did well.
Rudy (now in NC)



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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Sep 27 11:38:28 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:38:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Obama / McCain (guys guys guys pleeeease don't)
In-Reply-To: <C503AC45.19EA2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C503AC45.19EA2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48DE6F94.6090102@verizon.net>

Say what? Where y'all been? Is Charlotte somehow exempted from
the overall nationwide crisis?? Or maybe YOUR economic
fundamentals are still sound.  I can name a few largish banks what think
otherwise.

How's your portfolio doing???

Billy Zoom wrote:
> If you'll recall, the thread started with some of you speculating as to how
> our hobby would be affected by an economic recession that hasn't even
> happened yet.

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Sep 27 11:46:37 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:46:37 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <C503B0A9.19EA5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4CC2E864C7584B35B58EA38DDF18F5A1@GuyLaptop>

$1 back for every $1000 dollars in taxes?  Glad I am not a resident of your
great country!
But it does sound familiar......

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com]
Sent: 27 September 2008 17:43
To: Guy Weller; 'Herb Miller'; 'Robert Duquette'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bailouts


>  would require everyone over 18 to pay up the sum in taxes
> in the first place.
Government math: 200,000,000 adults each pay $425,000 in taxes, and in turn
each of them receives a $425.00 government bonus check to help stimulate the
economy. Since $425 means more to a poor person than to a rich person,
redistribution of wealth is accomplished in addition to the economic
recovery stimulus. It's as clear as flowers under a bridge.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 27 12:52:14 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Newman Racing
Message-ID: <593952.50232.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Nice article with a cute Elkhart Lake mention:

http://tinyurl.com/4dv38e

Ron

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Sep 27 13:29:56 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bailouts
In-Reply-To: <C503B0A9.19EA5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C503B0A9.19EA5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4973CE5B-1C6A-4FBC-89A5-7FBE3B448AA0@comcast.net>

I was wondering what happened to 'ol Jennifer.  Which bridge and did  
Kennedy drive her there?

;-0

Lester


On Sep 27, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> would require everyone over 18 to pay up the sum in taxes
>> in the first place.
> Government math: 200,000,000 adults each pay $425,000 in taxes, and  
> in turn
> each of them receives a $425.00 government bonus check to help  
> stimulate the
> economy. Since $425 means more to a poor person than to a rich person,
> redistribution of wealth is accomplished in addition to the economic
> recovery stimulus. It's as clear as flowers under a bridge.
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Sep 27 13:31:19 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:31:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Newman Racing
In-Reply-To: <593952.50232.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <593952.50232.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48DE8A07.5010205@verizon.net>

I seem to remember Paul Newman racing an early Datsun on
Thompson Speedway in New England back in the late 60's.

Ron Soave wrote:
> Nice article with a cute Elkhart Lake mention:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4dv38e
>
> Ron

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 27 14:56:10 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:56:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder - 1 to 2
Message-ID: <9679257F8B8C48F3BF9F8279C1805F0D@HomeComputer>

Rather pricy.


tinydog sez: 

yes

http://www.sebringsprite.com/price_list.htm

 
> Have any of you ever tried to replace your single combination brake/clutch
> master cylinder with two separate (one for brake - one for clutch) master
> cylinders while keeping the single combination master cylinder tray/pedal
> assembly?

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 27 16:59:40 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 15:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] dashpot oil question.
In-Reply-To: <004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
	<004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <F75156B96EF04F43BC793B5D4EB48154@spider>

A friend has a MGB with the single Stromberg carb.
Why would it lose all of the dashpot oil after about 10 starts? 

I put in 3-in-1 oil the first time I filled it two weeks ago. 
The lack of oil causes it to be hard to start as it appears to be run rich. 
What oil do others use in that carb?
Thanks ...bill

From p.herder at cox.net  Sat Sep 27 19:21:16 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:21:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <CBF716CBB67E44FBA82BEA88DA726A23@dell1>
References: <975490.24777.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<CBF716CBB67E44FBA82BEA88DA726A23@dell1>
Message-ID: <007c01c92108$8161b910$84252b30$@herder@cox.net>

I have a ribcase transmission from a 39,000 mile MG Midget that I don't need
and am wondering what it is worth.

It was included in a 1275 engine purchase (what I was really after) and so I
do not have any idea of its condition.  It does turn over and shift thru the
gears by hand.  Any other tests can I make on it as it sits on the floor?

Thank.

Paul

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 27 19:37:02 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:37:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <4930885579222381414@unknownmsgid>
References: <975490.24777.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<CBF716CBB67E44FBA82BEA88DA726A23@dell1>
	<4930885579222381414@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910809271837g21ce628dy1def5d57297b4c4a@mail.gmail.com>

Pull the side cover and look at the 1st/reverse gear thing.  If it is
good, you have something.  If not, you still have something, but not
as much.

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Sep 28 00:37:41 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:37:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <709766.87533.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <87a1f55d0809251254h1212ac8mfffa099799d3f65a@mail.gmail.com>
	<709766.87533.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809272337y64cf8ac9pa6c32f45e6013591@mail.gmail.com>

Do you or anyone else on this site know about the specs of the internals of
this engine? bud provided a list, but the list didnt contain information
like what model cam it was, he listed APT scatter pattern. also what make of
pistons, compression ratio.. he said on the site 12.5-13:1 Im not sure
exactly what he meant by that. valves are ok. i found out that all of the
valves were too long.. they were shortened and now running much better. also
my grandfather put a 50 amp alt from a suzuki on it because the alt was
gone. if anything has been done to the crank? rods? this is all useful info
to us that wasnt provided.

OR

If anyone has Kris Larsens contact information, this would be equally as
helpful!
Thanks guys!

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Guys, guys, guys....
>
> This motor was bulletproof for years before Matt got the car when Kris
> Larsen and Bud had it. The car had an SPVP4, I think. A valve bound and
> stuck open, 99%.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:
> > i just looked on his website, you were right, re-keyed to
> > 102 degrees. cam
> > is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
> > beside this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers (that have a
> > small crack in
> > them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to use?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, David Lieb
> > <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
> >
> > > >... Way too
> > > > many variables involved to make an assumption on
> > what the cam timing
> > > > should be with only one piece of the puzzle, and
> > I stand corrected.
> > >
> > > Are we allowed to say things like that on this
> > List????
> > >  _______________________________________________
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Matt Hagopian
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>


-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Sep 28 01:30:48 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:30:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] We Lost a Good Man
Message-ID: <d49b03130809280030i144b2f47rc79cfe67fda4ef0a@mail.gmail.com>

You're an 18 or 19 year old kid. You're critically wounded, and dying in the
jungle in the Ia Drang Valley, 11-14-1965. LZ Xray, Vietnam. Your Infantry
Unit is outnumbered 8 - 1, and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 or 200
yards away, that your own Infantry Commander has ordered the MediVac
helicopters to stop coming in.

You're lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns, and you know you're
not getting out. Your family is 1/2 way around the world, 12,000 miles away,
and you'll never see them again. As the world starts to fade in and out, you
know this is the day.

Then, over the machine gun noise, you faintly hear that sound of a
helicopter, and you look up to see a Huey, but it doesn't seem real, because
no Medi-Vac markings are on it.

Ed Freeman is coming for you. He's not Medi-Vac, so it's not his job, but
he's flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire, after the Medi-Vacs
were ordered not to come.

He's coming anyway.

And he drops it in, and sits there in the machine gun fire, as they load 2
or 3 of you on board.

Then he flies you up and out through the gunfire, to the Doctors and Nurses.


And, he kept coming back...... 19 more times....and took about 70 of you and
your buddies out, who would never have gotten out.

Medal of Honor Recipient Ed Freeman died last Wednesday at the age of 80, in
Boise, ID......

May God rest his soul.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Sep 28 03:19:20 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:19:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] What is a Ribcase worth?
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV139775C0B923F8381575A9D4410@phx.gbl>

I think shifting on the floor is about it as far as an out of car test goes.

Price the newly rebuilt ribcase boxi from Moss and the other usual suspects to get and idea.

Look for a possible guide as to what other unkown condition/used ribcase boxi might be going for these days on Ebay, Craig's List, Grassroots Auto and other mag. classifieds.

Remember you have no idea what sort of shape it's really in and are selling it as is, no guarantee then, go for it. :)

CapBob

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Sep 28 03:28:09 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:28:09 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] We Lost a Good Man
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV592FF0C69AE88773410A5D4410@phx.gbl>

...one or two of the ex-Viet 'copter and/or FAC types I flew with during my career as a Comm. Pilot and Regional Airline type are already gone. 

However, my buddy Ted Rist who did two tours as a MediVac chopper guy is still flying 74's for Singapore far as I know. 

.....it's that time. :(

CapBob

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 28 06:10:59 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:10:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0809272337y64cf8ac9pa6c32f45e6013591@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <860956.37574.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've sent Kris a message thru the SCCA bulletin boards asking him to email me with his contact info. I don't have his email directly.


--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:

> From: Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] john , NJMP in millville info?
> To: soavero at yahoo.com
> Cc: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>, "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, September 28, 2008, 1:37 AM
> Do you or anyone else on this site know about the specs of
> the internals of
> this engine? bud provided a list, but the list didnt
> contain information
> like what model cam it was, he listed APT scatter pattern.
> also what make of
> pistons, compression ratio.. he said on the site 12.5-13:1
> Im not sure
> exactly what he meant by that. valves are ok. i found out
> that all of the
> valves were too long.. they were shortened and now running
> much better. also
> my grandfather put a 50 amp alt from a suzuki on it because
> the alt was
> gone. if anything has been done to the crank? rods? this is
> all useful info
> to us that wasnt provided.
> 
> OR
> 
> If anyone has Kris Larsens contact information, this would
> be equally as
> helpful!
> Thanks guys!
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Ron Soave
> <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Guys, guys, guys....
> >
> > This motor was bulletproof for years before Matt got
> the car when Kris
> > Larsen and Bud had it. The car had an SPVP4, I think.
> A valve bound and
> > stuck open, 99%.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 9/25/08, Matt Hagopian
> <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:
> > > i just looked on his website, you were right,
> re-keyed to
> > > 102 degrees. cam
> > > is an APT scatter...? no model number mentioned.
> > > beside this.. I have a 1.5 high lift rockers
> (that have a
> > > small crack in
> > > them) anyone have any suggestions which rocker to
> use?
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:43 PM, David Lieb
> > > <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > >... Way too
> > > > > many variables involved to make an
> assumption on
> > > what the cam timing
> > > > > should be with only one piece of the
> puzzle, and
> > > I stand corrected.
> > > >
> > > > Are we allowed to say things like that on
> this
> > > List????
> > > > 
> _______________________________________________
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> > > --
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > >
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> 
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From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep 28 10:14:10 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:14:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] We Lost a Good Man
References: <d49b03130809280030i144b2f47rc79cfe67fda4ef0a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <023901c92185$3e25a030$4e947e4c@HP>

Amen.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: <9issa at justbrits.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:30 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] We Lost a Good Man


> You're an 18 or 19 year old kid. You're critically wounded, and dying in 
> the
> jungle in the Ia Drang Valley, 11-14-1965. LZ Xray, Vietnam. Your Infantry
> Unit is outnumbered 8 - 1, and the enemy fire is so intense, from 100 or 
> 200
> yards away, that your own Infantry Commander has ordered the MediVac
> helicopters to stop coming in.
>
> You're lying there, listening to the enemy machine guns, and you know 
> you're
> not getting out. Your family is 1/2 way around the world, 12,000 miles 
> away,
> and you'll never see them again. As the world starts to fade in and out, 
> you
> know this is the day.
>
> Then, over the machine gun noise, you faintly hear that sound of a
> helicopter, and you look up to see a Huey, but it doesn't seem real, 
> because
> no Medi-Vac markings are on it.
>
> Ed Freeman is coming for you. He's not Medi-Vac, so it's not his job, but
> he's flying his Huey down into the machine gun fire, after the Medi-Vacs
> were ordered not to come.
>
> He's coming anyway.
>
> And he drops it in, and sits there in the machine gun fire, as they load 2
> or 3 of you on board.
>
> Then he flies you up and out through the gunfire, to the Doctors and 
> Nurses.
>
>
> And, he kept coming back...... 19 more times....and took about 70 of you 
> and
> your buddies out, who would never have gotten out.
>
> Medal of Honor Recipient Ed Freeman died last Wednesday at the age of 80, 
> in
> Boise, ID......
>
> May God rest his soul.

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Sep 28 12:20:56 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:20:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Newman
References: <533416.75028.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c92196$f46aa2d0$ade767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

My Paul Neuman 'connection':

In '69 he and Joanne Woodward did a pretty terrible racing movie called
"Winning'. It started at Road America. After the race Neuman and Woodward
drive to Parnell (the township where I actually live) to a cross roads
containing the the Mitchell Town Hall and Parnell Bar (where my family and I
hang out at everytime they visit), where a phone booth was set up as a
prop.Joanne make a phone call to her disapproving mother. They drive down
Scenic Drive past St Michaels Church where my son is now.

Bud


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Team Thicko" <team-thicko at autox.team.net>; "Spridgets List"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Newman


> --- On Sat, 9/27/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > and Soave, Peter C, a few others and I got on the topic of
> > actors and
> > celebrities who tried their hand at racing and, of course,
> > Newman's name was
> > at the top of the list.
>
> Along with McQueen's.
>
> Soave
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 28 13:16:53 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:16:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Newman
Message-ID: <c09.47d1873b.36113225@aol.com>

There are worse films.
 
In a message dated 28/09/2008 18:41:54 GMT Daylight Time, bpazur at excel.net  
writes:

My Paul  Neuman 'connection':

In '69 he and Joanne Woodward did a pretty  terrible racing movie called
"Winning'. It started at Road America. After  the race Neuman and Woodward
drive to Parnell (the township where I  actually live) to a cross roads
containing the the Mitchell Town Hall and  Parnell Bar (where my family and I
hang out at everytime they visit), where  a phone booth was set up as a
prop.Joanne make a phone call to her  disapproving mother. They drive down
Scenic Drive past St Michaels Church  where my son is now.

Bud

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Sep 28 13:20:11 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:20:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Top  REAR mounts?
Message-ID: <67735200.20080928122011@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  The parts arrived from MacGregor and the HARD top now sits atop my
  car! Probably a bad time to have done that as the weather is is
  absolutey PERFECT for top down driving, ... anyway....

  The front clamps i'm using are from a later soft top, and work just
  fine (thanx Bill M.) I thought i was going to be able to use 1/4-20
  carriage bolts for the side mounts, but i'll have to get longer
  ones. I'm using #10 copper wire right now, just twisted tight. ..
  but what about the REAR mounts? I've come to understand that even
  back then nobody really used 'em, but does anybody have a picture or
  drawing of what they might look like?.. i could have a set fabbed
  up at work IF i had a clue....

  TIA


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
 "They are not answering - we'd better try the knocker," said Tom adoringly.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Sun Sep 28 19:05:22 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:05:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV139775C0B923F8381575A9D4410@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV139775C0B923F8381575A9D4410@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48E029D2.9070100@b2systems.com>

 shipping the gearbox is what is going to kill the value, I bought a 
used ribcase of unknown condition since it was better to have one than 
no gearbox at all but it cost more to ship then purchase, I have since 
found the one I got was not very good so what i paid for it is not for 
discussion lest I look like a fool :)

    mike

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Sep 28 20:09:04 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:09:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] dashpot oil question.
In-Reply-To: <F75156B96EF04F43BC793B5D4EB48154@spider>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
	<004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<F75156B96EF04F43BC793B5D4EB48154@spider>
Message-ID: <628D3C40-6BCE-4E48-B959-4DFE5AB99875@mac.com>

Bill,

The SU's call for 30 wt non-detergent oil - - engine oil.  I have  
used 10 and 20 wt from various sources as well as Marvel Oil.   All  
seem to give a faster response but also have to be topped up more  
often.  My guess is that the lighter oil, including 3 in 1, gets  
sucked into the engine.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 27, 2008, at 3:59 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> A friend has a MGB with the single Stromberg carb.
> Why would it lose all of the dashpot oil after about 10 starts?
>
> I put in 3-in-1 oil the first time I filled it two weeks ago.
> The lack of oil causes it to be hard to start as it appears to be  
> run rich.
> What oil do others use in that carb?
> Thanks ...bill
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 28 21:28:55 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:28:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <48E029D2.9070100@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOECBDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<shipping the gearbox is what is going to kill the value,>>

Nor if you use Grayhound, Mike.  'Course seller/buyer or buyer/seller HAVE 
to agree to that small prob of delivery to Station & P/U from Station <G>!

Case DRAINED and it is only Station to Station, but is dirt cheap.

Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 28 20:38:17 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <48E029D2.9070100@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <208023.10187.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
> shipping the gearbox is what is going to kill the value, I
> bought a 
> used ribcase of unknown condition since it was better to
> have one than 
> no gearbox at all but it cost more to ship then purchase, I

I shipped one to Marc on the list for around $40 a few months ago, and a lot of it was shipping materials. It costs me more these days to take a quick 60 mile ride up to Peter C.'s in Madison in my F-150 than to ship a gearbox UPS or Fedex ground halfway across country. 

I think ribcases are extremely underrated.

Ron

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 28 21:14:39 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT weekend
In-Reply-To: <74199.41931.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <737110.52721.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, I got home a couple of hours ago from what turned out to be one of the
best weekends I've had in a while.  It's probably still going on right now.  I
know we were still at it this time last night.  In the process, I got to put
faces to lots of list members, make a bunch of new friends, and learn a lot
more about welding & metal working in the process. 
 
We got quite a bit accomplished, but I'll let others put detail to that. 
Suffice it to say that Frank is married to a Saint who put up with a gang of
people traipsing in and out of her house all weekend.  Frank, please tell
Dianne I said thanks one more time. 
 
Father Jack is also quite a character - very much deserving of this no matter
what he claims to the contrary.  This is a good project we're doing here. 
Glad I had the opportunity to put in my two cents worth of time and effort.
 
David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island
 

--- On Fri, 9/26/08, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OSHIT
To: wmgilroy at gmail.com
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 9:24 AM

"He can still wack you with a crutch."


Good point. But I'm still pretty quick.  Will probably be alright.

 - David
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 28 22:55:47 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:55:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone heard from Breeanna?
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10809282155x1dfe8b0ai299288e7f4f11216@mail.gmail.com>

I'm 30 minutes from where she's visiting here in Oregon and would like to
get in touch with her.

Thanks,

Herb

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Sep 29 01:03:36 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:03:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <208023.10187.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080929070409.70F8C18763E@autox.team.net>

Underrated, because of the large number of defective "rebuilds" sold in the
1980's and 90's, most coming from the homeland and really being cleaned and
painted junkyard "fresh" units. 
		Crash

I think ribcases are extremely underrated.

Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 29 06:43:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:43:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] What is a Ribcase worth?
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOECBDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37493EC1167301C1F392EDB8400@phx.gbl>

What's dirt worth where you are?  ;)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>

<<shipping the gearbox is what is going to kill the value,>>

Nor if you use Grayhound, Mike.  'Course seller/buyer or buyer/seller HAVE
to agree to that small prob of delivery to Station & P/U from Station <G>!

Case DRAINED and it is only Station to Station, but is dirt cheap.

Ed

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Sep 29 07:50:21 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:50:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] dashpot oil question.
In-Reply-To: <F75156B96EF04F43BC793B5D4EB48154@spider>
References: <8CAE60F4F0E6A05-A04-4417@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com>
	<004f01c91836$4990d960$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<F75156B96EF04F43BC793B5D4EB48154@spider>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080929084804.03e812b8@nosimport.com>

Bill,
         Z-S s have an o-ring for the adjustable needle assembly. 
When that allows, the oil gets sucked in very quickly.

         Moss # 365-420   A buck and change.   Fiddly bit to replace, though.

         Peter C.
==
At 05:59 PM 9/27/2008, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>A friend has a MGB with the single Stromberg carb.
>Why would it lose all of the dashpot oil after about 10 starts?
>
>I put in 3-in-1 oil the first time I filled it two weeks ago.
>The lack of oil causes it to be hard to start as it appears to be run rich.
>What oil do others use in that carb?
>Thanks ...bill

From cclabaw at juno.com  Mon Sep 29 09:33:04 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:33:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] dashpot oil question.
Message-ID: <20080929.083304.15800.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

It has to do with the vapor pressure of the oil; motor oil is pretty good,
even 5W or 10W.  That's also why we don't use WD-40 (gone overnight).  The 1
7/8" SU on my H-D Shovelhead runs with NO oil, by design.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:
Bill,

The SU's call for 30 wt non-detergent oil - - engine oil.  I have
used 10 and 20 wt from various sources as well as Marvel Oil.   All
seem to give a faster response but also have to be topped up more
often.  My guess is that the lighter oil, including 3 in 1, gets
sucked into the engine.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 27, 2008, at 3:59 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> A friend has a MGB with the single Stromberg carb.
> Why would it lose all of the dashpot oil after about 10 starts?
>
> I put in 3-in-1 oil the first time I filled it two weeks ago.
> The lack of oil causes it to be hard to start as it appears to be
> run rich.
> What oil do others use in that carb?
> Thanks ...bill
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Sep 29 13:27:17 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:27:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
Message-ID: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I can't stand it!  Somebody write up a progress report and let us all know how
it went this last weekend.  Is it ready for paint, already painted...?  Come
on now!

Glen

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 14:48:48 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:48:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
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Sorry, updates will cost non-participants $1 per 50 words, pictures extra.
We gotta pay for this thing somehow.
$5 minimum.  No guarantee of correct spelling.

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Sep 29 15:15:29 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:15:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910809291348iecc996bmff2ac7a7da1cc871@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<5f00d9910809291348iecc996bmff2ac7a7da1cc871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080929161301.02ca90e0@nosimport.com>

At 03:48 PM 9/29/2008, derf wrote:
>Sorry, updates will cost non-participants $1 per 50 words, pictures extra.
>We gotta pay for this thing somehow.
>$5 minimum.  No guarantee of correct spelling.
===============
Hmmm, It seems that if a "word" is misspelled, then it isn't indeed a 
word and so should be free of charge.

Peter C


But, I too, would like an update. 

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 15:24:08 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:24:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <441250190809291424q21ee9744r21b1e457f1111c1a@mail.gmail.com>

I know I did not send anywhere near enough booze to keep them drunk today.

-g

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> I can't stand it!  Somebody write up a progress report and let us all know
> how
> it went this last weekend.  Is it ready for paint, already painted...?
>  Come
> on now!
>
> Glen
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 29 15:30:56 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <441250190809291424q21ee9744r21b1e457f1111c1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <940566.25852.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"I know I did not send anywhere near enough booze to keep them drunk today."

 
I brought extra - but it also went away rather quickly so you're probably
right.

 - David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 16:53:11 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:53:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <940566.25852.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <441250190809291424q21ee9744r21b1e457f1111c1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<940566.25852.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809291553g6d35cdecq6e50ab517f0df537@mail.gmail.com>

Hang over?

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 5:30 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> "I know I did not send anywhere near enough booze to keep them drunk today."
>
>
> I brought extra - but it also went away rather quickly so you're probably
> right.
>
>  - David Booker
> '71 Midget
> Long Islan

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Mon Sep 29 17:49:26 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:49:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear drum brakes
Message-ID: <50901.72.71.234.86.1222732166.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Another request to the list that knows, please...
I'm trying to replace the brake cylinder on the left rear (drums) of my 66
Sprite.  I have it all apart with shoes, springs all free. I see no
obvious clip on the back of the old cylinder, just a very slight raised
edge, not close to the thickness of the new spring clip. Fluid line
already free, bleeder removed.  I can make the cylinder rock slightly, but
can't get it out. BTW, do I remember past threads about an easier method
than the spring clip thingy to hold the new one in?
I've had my head stuffed in the wheel well long enough!
TIA
Dick B.

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 29 18:28:07 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:28:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
Message-ID: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>

OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to go but 
what to do.

Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the past 10 
years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based letters. We 
use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living and are 
familiar with it's basic's.

We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be fully 
versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.

We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to construct 
a news letter and post it on the web.

An example of our simple news letter can be viewed at: 
http://ado13.com/pbscc/august_gasline.htm

Larry & Sandi 

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 29 19:35:15 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:35:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <0C58898C93ED4E25ACDB9DCCD6F972AE@Larry>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEGLDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard Law
School.>>

Lord KNOWS that bit of info should be the LAST thing to consider when
trying to figure out if he has an ounce of common sense!!!

Matter of fact, I would deem it a minus factor<VBG>!!!

LAD

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Sep 29 18:39:31 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:39:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
Message-ID: <78mg19$4u1eq5@email.mtu.edu>

While you guys are waiting for the Holy Sprite pics, here's an album 
that I just learned about through another list  - 
British-Cars at autox.team.net. It is 280 pics from a 10 day cross 
country trip in a 1959 TR3. Some great scenery, a hand gun, beer, but no cats.
http://flickr.com/photos/vinmarshall/sets/72157606892712516/
Watch it as a slide show. I think you will enjoy it.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 29 18:48:32 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:48:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEGLDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <6EF39B85DCB74E5A872D7C959596D071@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


<<Obama graduated with a Juris Doctor magna cum laude from Harvard Law
School.>>

Lord KNOWS that bit of info should be the LAST thing to consider when
trying to figure out if he has an ounce of common sense!!!

Matter of fact, I would deem it a minus factor<VBG>!!!

LAD
_______________________________________________

You're right, Ed.  Let's just pick the dumbest MFer we can find.  Again.

Geesh.

From hal at katemuir.com  Mon Sep 29 19:10:00 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:10:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <6EF39B85DCB74E5A872D7C959596D071@Larry>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFMELJIMAA.hal@katemuir.com>

We can't get him 'cuz he's already used up his two terms.....
Hal
-----Original Message-----

You're right, Ed.  Let's just pick the dumbest MFer we can find.  Again.

Geesh.
_______________________________________________

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Sep 29 19:18:09 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:18:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFMELJIMAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <4FA281587D4E464BAEC1DDA6CDF6EED5@midget>

>> You're right, Ed.  Let's just pick the dumbest MFer we can find.  Again.

> We can't get him 'cuz he's already used up his two terms.....

But just think, he DOES have more experience than either of the major 
candidates and we all KNOW that experience is SO very important, right? 

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Sep 29 19:18:26 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:18:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <6EF39B85DCB74E5A872D7C959596D071@Larry>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEGLDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<6EF39B85DCB74E5A872D7C959596D071@Larry>
Message-ID: <093020080118.7498.48E17E620001A88A00001D4A22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Too late. McCain already beat you to it.
 -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>: --------------

  You're right, Ed.  Let's just pick the dumbest MFer we can find.  Again.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 19:20:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040809291553g6d35cdecq6e50ab517f0df537@mail.gmail.com>
References: <441250190809291424q21ee9744r21b1e457f1111c1a@mail.gmail.com>
	<940566.25852.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8c1781040809291553g6d35cdecq6e50ab517f0df537@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809291820u452de845l9326edf04a650edc@mail.gmail.com>

Very quickly because I'm tired and I have to get up early to catch my flight
tomorrow...

Event went well, I think.  Much work accomplished on the car. Pictures are
in my camera but I will not get to download for a few days as I am off to
Georgia. Frank "The Gimp" and I launched into more pre-paint prep work today
- as much as his leg would allow him. Much of the bondo and Taco Bell
wrappers are on and the bonnet is fitted (not small task, eh, Kevin?) sanded
and treated with rust killer (surface prep). The sheet metal work is
virtually finished and Fr. Jack helped us with some sanding today.

The group was great and all worked their keester off for two days. Nearly 12
hours of work on Saturday. It was great to see everyone!  Will try to add
more updates with pics soon. Meanwhile, since I am on the road, perhaps a
few of the others can stick some pics up somewhere??

Huge thanks to the lovely Mz. Clarici who kept the food and coffee flowing!
Thanks also to Doug Miller who provided professional level welding
instruction for two days!  The Gimp is currently enscounced on the sofa
grouching about his bad leg but we did have a lovely Italian dinner tonight
in Toms River as well as lunch today at Surf Taco..

Cheers to all!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 29 19:22:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:22:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
In-Reply-To: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0809291822g55cfdec2te2ea0ad97c5d844a@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,

Check out open source, free software package called NVU.  If I can do it,
anyone can  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>wrote:

> OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to go but
> what to do.
>
> Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the past 10
> years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based letters. We
> use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living and are
> familiar with it's basic's.
>
> We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be fully
> versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.
>
> We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to construct
> a news letter and post it on the web.
>
> An example of our simple news letter can be viewed at:
> http://ado13.com/pbscc/august_gasline.htm
>
> Larry & Sandi
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 29 19:29:26 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:29:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <093020080118.7498.48E17E620001A88A00001D4A22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <474324.38600.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:
> Too late. McCain already beat you to it.

I refuse to comment on politics in this forum, but will share a factual report. A friend's wife was watching a youtube of Palin's interview with Kati Couric when Palin proclaimed that just beyond our borders were foreign countries, and both Russia and Canada were, in fact, foreign countries. My friend ran over to the computer and said "Let me see! I haven't seen the skit yet." The answer was so stupid he assumed his wife was watching a Tina Fey spoof. It reminded me of Bush's line that "the majority of our imported oil comes from foreign countries."

Ron

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep 29 19:42:06 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:42:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <474324.38600.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <093020080118.7498.48E17E620001A88A00001D4A22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>,
	<474324.38600.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E1217E.1038.247DBB2@kk7ss.verizon.net>

When I was last in school (circa 1955) Canada and Russia *were* foreign 
countries!!
I didn't realise how much the world has changed!!


On 29 Sep 2008 at 18:29, Ron Soave wrote:=
> Palin proclaimed that just beyond our borders were
> foreign countries, and both Russia and Canada were, in fact,
> foreign
> countries. My friend ran over to the computer and said "Let me see!
> I haven't seen the skit yet." The answer was so stupid he assumed his
> wife was watching a Tina Fey spoof.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 29 20:07:13 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:07:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48E1217E.1038.247DBB2@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Canada and Russia *were* foreign
> countries!!
I didn't get the inference either. Alaska and Hawaii ARE the only states
that don't share borders with the rest of the US, and it's a long way from
Hawaii to the next country. I would think she must at least have more
foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.
BZ

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Sep 29 20:22:59 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:22:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <48E1217E.1038.247DBB2@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <093020080222.57.48E18D8300041C2D0000003922230704929B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Agreed. She will go down in history as one of our country's finest statesmen. 
 -------------- Original message from Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>: --------------


 I would think she must at least have more foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.  

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 29 20:27:10 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 21:27:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: <kk7ss at verizon.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <tinydog at snet.net>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


>  Canada and Russia *were* foreign
> countries!!
I didn't get the inference either. Alaska and Hawaii ARE the only states
that don't share borders with the rest of the US, and it's a long way from
Hawaii to the next country. I would think she must at least have more
foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.
BZ
_______________________________________________


Uh, Billy, the idea that the fact that she can actually SEE foreign 
countries from her state gives her foreign policy experience is what makes 
everybody laugh at her.

I'm not sure I can make that any clearer.  Watch her interviews.  Try not to 
laugh.

LAD

(Trying not to laugh.) 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep 29 20:38:56 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:38:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <48E19140.50307@frontiernet.net>

Every time we flew out toward the Aleutians we had a Bear G flying 
alongside us.  The Bear is the Russian long range bomber, and the G 
model has nuclear capabilities.

Kate



Billy Zoom wrote:
>>  Canada and Russia *were* foreign
>> countries!!
>>     
> I would think she must at least have more
> foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.
> BZ

From franks97 at verizon.net  Mon Sep 29 20:47:34 2008
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:47:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sears Point Video
Message-ID: <C506E156.6072%franks97@verizon.net>

A group of Northwest vintage drivers and their vintage cars made the trip to
the Bay area to race the historic track at Sears Point (now Infineon
Raceway). Here is a link to a 2 minute YouTube video of some of the trip
highlights. And yes I know I typed 2009 in the title (my bad).

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAgBFct2BI0>


-- 
David Franks
franks97 at verizon.net
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 29 21:01:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:01:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] holy Spirite
In-Reply-To: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <FA803109A4344098890C8CFE277E9972@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <48E1969A.5010502@comcast.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:
> I can't stand it!  Somebody write up a progress report 
>   
The floor has been primed and painted OEW .
It is back belly down on the floor.
The Holy Sprite must have been airborne at one time in it's life from 
what we found when we turned it over.
BTW, we just flipped it on it's side, no rotisserie.
We fixed the frame, we fixed the rusted out floor where it was cracked 
from the airborne trip, landed, cracked, and filled with mud then placed 
somewhere for 30 years. Lots of mud inside the hat track between the 
floor board.
How did it get packed in there?
And both footwells looked like it landed on a log or some other 10" high 
object.
But it's fixed, we opened it up, beat it back to normal, and welded it shut.
Drain holes have been drilled, patches have been made and welded in, 
dents have been dollied, the bonnet has been fitted, the engine bay is 
mostly sanded down to bare metal, the enlarged wheel openings have been 
made smaller, taco bell wrappers have been installed and bondo has been 
slung, at least the first coat.
Fr Jack was here today and sanded the flash rust off the bonnet, he 
likes the whiz wheel too.
All in all, a lot of work went into the HS this weekend. In the coming 
weeks, I will work on the minor remaining body work, priming and 
painting. That is IF my damn leg stops hurting and I can bend down.
The guys can tell you I was moving around without crutches but I just 
can not bend my left leg to kneel down.
And working on a Sprite even on jack stands, you need to bend down.
Fortunately the rockers are great and don't need any body work except 
for where Michael Rowe made the repair from the cut off end of the right 
rocker to fit some ungodly big wheels. That is the only part of the 
rockers that need a spot of filler now that the patch has been made and 
welded in.
Most of the parts have found their way here.
People are still sending money which is rapidly flying out now.
And we found that we will need some seat rail tracks too. the ones on 
the floor, not on the seats. Slide rails.
Fr. Jack is happier than a priest in a nunery, I think everybody who 
helped is happy too.
Thanks to all who came by and helped, there were 12 of us here yesterday 
not counting the kitchen help.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From davriker at nwi.net  Mon Sep 29 21:25:51 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:25:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear drum brakes
References: <50901.72.71.234.86.1222732166.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <00071AC0D050446C84921C1883FF39F1@dave>

There is very likely a thin "C" clip or circlip holding the wheel cylinder 
to the backing plate.  It doesn't hold the cylinder as tightly as the "E" 
spring clip does, but then again I can never get the darn e clips to work.
David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:49 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear drum brakes


> Another request to the list that knows, please...
> I'm trying to replace the brake cylinder on the left rear (drums) of my 66
> Sprite.  I have it all apart with shoes, springs all free. I see no
> obvious clip on the back of the old cylinder, just a very slight raised
> edge, not close to the thickness of the new spring clip. Fluid line
> already free, bleeder removed.  I can make the cylinder rock slightly, but
> can't get it out. BTW, do I remember past threads about an easier method
> than the spring clip thingy to hold the new one in?
> I've had my head stuffed in the wheel well long enough!
> TIA
> Dick B.

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Mon Sep 29 22:35:27 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] circular rear fenders
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0809292135x3dfe90b6k2a92ccc885eb5406@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,
Do any of you have an old set of rear fenders that have circular cutouts for
the tires? Or if you dont have any, do you know someone who does or where I
can find them?
Going to put Hoosier TDs on the bug instead of spending another 200 on
avons, esp after being at the track and a guy said he ran 2 sets of them,
both lasted one weekend and he bought the "longer lasting" compound.

help!
Thanks everybody!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 04:30:47 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:30:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
In-Reply-To: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <8c1781040809300330v6748f74fqb81438438b10d9f7@mail.gmail.com>

Netobjects Fusion Essentials.

http://www.netobjects.com/html/essentials.html


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller
<millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to go but
> what to do.
>
> Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the past 10
> years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based letters. We
> use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living and are
> familiar with it's basic's.
>
> We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be fully
> versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.
>
> We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to construct
> a news letter and post it on the web.
>
> An example of our simple news letter can be viewed at:
> http://ado13.com/pbscc/august_gasline.htm
>
> Larry & Sandi

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Sep 30 05:25:37 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:25:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
In-Reply-To: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <E2E51032-1704-4AD9-A8F3-8731DF4AE3D2@phillymgclub.com>

There is an easy way and a hard way ;-)

First, you can use M$ Word or OpenOffice to create the document. Then  
save as a PDF and upload to the site using any of many FTP programs  
(Here at Penn we use and recommend FileZilla for Windows and Fetch for  
Mac) THen just post the link to the PDF.

Or you can go the full blown HTML editor. I use DreamWeaver, but that  
is prolly overkill for what you want to do. There are a number of web  
design packages out there for Windows and Mac. They all include the  
FTP software (like Frontpage).

Here at the Philly MG Club we use the PDF method as it makes it easier  
for a number of us to input, the the final PDF gets sent to me and I  
upload it. You can also password protect the PDF by using a simple  
htaccess set up and just give the password to the paid members.

Larry


On Sep 29, 2008, at 8:28 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:

> OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to  
> go but
> what to do.
>
> Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the  
> past 10
> years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based  
> letters. We
> use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living  
> and are
> familiar with it's basic's.
>
> We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be  
> fully
> versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.
>
> We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to  
> construct
> a news letter and post it on the web.
>
> An example of our simple news letter can be viewed at:
> http://ado13.com/pbscc/august_gasline.htm
>
> Larry & Sandi
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-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Sep 30 05:46:16 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:46:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
Message-ID: <093020081146.12938.48E211880004AB500000328A2216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hi Larry:

I used to do our Smoky Mountain Austin Healey Club newsletter, the Smoke Signals a few years ago.  I used Wordperfect in a 3-column format.  It worked pretty well for me.  Since I have not been involved for several years, there are probably some pretty good newsletter formats available that weren't available or were too costly back then.  But you CAN use Wordperfect if you would like.I could import picures and diagrams, as well as creating a monthly crossword puzzle or maze for reader's enjoyment.  Always got high marks for the paper (didn't use an online version--most members, including myself, didn't enjoy reading a newsletter of multiple pages on a computer screen).

--David C.
Don't join dangerous cults: Practice safe sects!



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Trevor Jessie" <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>
> Netobjects Fusion Essentials.
> 
> http://www.netobjects.com/html/essentials.html
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller
> <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> > OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to go but
> > what to do.
> >
> > Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the past 10
> > years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based letters. We
> > use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living and are
> > familiar with it's basic's.
> >
> > We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be fully
> > versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.
> >
> > We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to construct
> > a news letter and post it on the web.
> >
> > An example of our simple news letter can be viewed at:
> > http://ado13.com/pbscc/august_gasline.htm
> >
> > Larry & Sandi
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 07:22:57 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More Healeys: Frog-eyes, Sprites and Midgets
In-Reply-To: <002401c91a5d$eb6fe770$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>
References: <002401c91a5d$eb6fe770$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>
Message-ID: <205cef430809300622u18790b7bv3ba94cf7180997d7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks : )
Lin

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Ed Townley <healeymonster at fastwave.biz>wrote:

>
>
>
> Hi, Lin
> If you don't mind a water damaged copy, there's one for $29 on ABE
> books.com
>
> http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=8&imagefield.
> y=10&sts=t&tn=More+Healeys%2C+Frog-eyes%2C+Sprites+and+Midgets<http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=8&imagefield.y=10&sts=t&tn=More+Healeys%2C+Frog-eyes%2C+Sprites+and+Midgets>
>
> or
>
> http://tinyurl.com/539kvd
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed Townley
> Southern NM, USA
>
> Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> I have got to get my hands on the book "More Healeys" now.
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 07:33:45 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:33:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cool Bugeye restoration site
 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2203663
Message-ID: <205cef430809300633q45f1b18an7f6cd52067d888da@mail.gmail.com>

Who owns this Bugeye? Cool site but most of the images are too small to view
the details.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2203663
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 07:38:17 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:38:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Lightning Bolt
In-Reply-To: <C2BE9EF57C764E8F951365DCFCBFBE6D@HomeComputer>
References: <AckcRv+wqanWL2KnRkeQ4UZUDaP+kw==>
	<C2BE9EF57C764E8F951365DCFCBFBE6D@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <205cef430809300638g3f693081r60c1c2528fedacee@mail.gmail.com>

Dean,
If you don't get one by next week I'll draw one up on CAD (or give it to my
student) from my horn as the button ring broke off and the button is in the
door. Let me know if you still want that. Also are you making something?
Possibly a new button? Got pics of your 62?
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Dean Swanson <d.swanson at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Does anyone have a sketch or the approximate dimensions of the lightning
> bolt one the Sprite horn push?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean Swanson
>
> '62 A.H. Sprite mkII
>
> Holly Springs, NC
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 07:42:46 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:42:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sears Point Video
In-Reply-To: <C506E156.6072%franks97@verizon.net>
References: <AckipuPjIoDskI6aEd2i8wAfW/A0tQ==>
	<C506E156.6072%franks97@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430809300642o3e85cd51kdd0ba0d5282c8b88@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks that will be helpful when it is snowing and I miss driving mine : )
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Franks <franks97 at verizon.net> wrote:

> A group of Northwest vintage drivers and their vintage cars made the trip
> to
> the Bay area to race the historic track at Sears Point (now Infineon
> Raceway). Here is a link to a 2 minute YouTube video of some of the trip
> highlights. And yes I know I typed 2009 in the title (my bad).
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAgBFct2BI0>
>
>
> --
> David Franks
> franks97 at verizon.net
> 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Tue Sep 30 09:23:13 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] dashpot oil question
Message-ID: <2E8CA36C8BE642BBB990BA5130023B59@psych.washington.edu>

Sounds like the O-ring in the bottom of the dash pot is shot.  Check out this
Youtube video from John Twist of University Motors on how to replace it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPzB95-paE4

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett,Wa

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 09:33:06 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:33:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
In-Reply-To: <78mg19$4u1eq5@email.mtu.edu>
References: <78mg19$4u1eq5@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>

Tim,
Great photos do you know anything about that car? It would be great to see a
Spridget do the same trip. Any takers? How did they do that in 10 days and
no troubles? I would like to email those guys and ask. What's the website or
is it just the list serve?
Lin

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Timothy H. Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>wrote:

> While you guys are waiting for the Holy Sprite pics, here's an album
> that I just learned about through another list  -
> British-Cars at autox.team.net. It is 280 pics from a 10 day cross
> country trip in a 1959 TR3. Some great scenery, a hand gun, beer, but no
> cats.
> http://flickr.com/photos/vinmarshall/sets/72157606892712516/
> Watch it as a slide show. I think you will enjoy it.
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Sep 30 09:42:46 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:42:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Parts
Message-ID: <48E248F6.6030604@lehigh.edu>

 From today's Craigslist. Located in Easton, PA.
http://allentown.craigslist.org/pts/860725862.html
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Tue Sep 30 11:02:32 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:02:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT: LZ XRAY helicopter pilot
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3036.1222742336.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3036.1222742336.3711.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <05DD0313-6A3D-4672-A8C0-2363C5C60912@dartmouth.edu>

Sorry to be so off topic, but would the person who posted the note  
about the helicopter pilot forward it to me please? I'd like to send  
it to my father and have accidentally deleted it.

Thanks.
-m

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 30 12:03:41 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:03:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEJIDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<It would be great to see a Spridget do the same trip.>>

Well, I once did a business trip from SW side of Chi to Sanford, Fla (just
outside of Orlando).  Started out Thur, stayed in Sanford Holiday Inn Thur
nite, attended Sales Meeting Fri. AM 'til 3:00PM and was home Sat. AM,
Linda.  Sprite Mk. II with CB ants on rear bumper irons (twins) and actually
bird-dogged for a 18 wheeler around the GA P.O.E. a little after mid-nite.
<VBG>!!  Truckers were calling me "The only true roller-skate" EVER !! LOL

Then a buddy used his MGA (OLDER THAN Sprites) for THIS 'trip'!!
http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm

Then there is also a REAL 'interesting' trip (right David L.??) of these
folks:  http://www.justbrits.com/cars/Austin7s.html

And keep in mind "The Bill & Bill Road Show" (Spridgets) from FAR NW to/from
LotO!!!

Enjoy!!

Ed

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Sep 30 11:02:48 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:02:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Repro Ignition Switch
Message-ID: <20080930.110248.7775.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

I was able to rebuild (well sort of) my ignition switch in the BE, but I have
to jiggle it to get the parking lights to work. So in investigating repro
ignition switches, I found that Mo$$ has the best price by ~$50! does anyone
have any experience with the "Classic Gold" brand repro?
In the same vein, when I had the switch out (and finally got the headlight
bezel off (Patience, Patience) I was going to put the repro bezel onto the
switch so that I didn't run the risk of damaging the original if I had to
replace the switch, BUT the repro is 1.60" ID, and the original is 1.65" ID.
Has anyone else run into this? is the repro just a POS or does it fit the
"Classic Gold" switch correctly?
TIA,


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 30 11:26:06 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:26:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEJIDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEJIDPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <48E2612E.2040805@frontiernet.net>

I drove my '72 Midget from Albany, NY to Portland, OR and back, and a 
few years later drove her from Longview, WA to Albany, NY and back.  I 
often wish I'd forgotten th return on that trip.

Kate

Ed's Shop wrote:
> <<It would be great to see a Spridget do the same trip.>>

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Sep 30 11:35:43 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:35:43 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EC0182338F184B29941522EAC826CBF3@GuyLaptop>

Currently, this chap is driving his 1500 Midget on an around the world trip.
Started from the UK, through Europe, and is currently in India. He goes on
through
S E Asia and then across Australia before shipping it to USA.

Take a look at his web site:
http://bridgetthemidget.co.uk/

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: 30 September 2008 16:33
To: Timothy H. Collins
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip


Tim,
Great photos do you know anything about that car? It would be great to see a
Spridget do the same trip. Any takers? How did they do that in 10 days and
no troubles? I would like to email those guys and ask. What's the website or
is it just the list serve?
Lin

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Timothy H. Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>wrote:

> While you guys are waiting for the Holy Sprite pics, here's an album
> that I just learned about through another list  -
> British-Cars at autox.team.net. It is 280 pics from a 10 day cross
> country trip in a 1959 TR3. Some great scenery, a hand gun, beer, but no
> cats.
> http://flickr.com/photos/vinmarshall/sets/72157606892712516/
> Watch it as a slide show. I think you will enjoy it.
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 30 11:39:46 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:39:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country Trip
In-Reply-To: <205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>
References: <78mg19$4u1eq5@email.mtu.edu>
	<205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA4662D7-5060-4F46-BA3C-B1455AEA432A@mac.com>

I did 3700 miles in eleven days in July 1960 - San Diego to Yosemite,  
across Tioga Pass (10,000 ft) to Lake Tahoe to Lassen Volcanic Park  
to Creator Lake to Portland and Seattle.  Then Across Washington to  
Idaho to Salt Lake City, Bryce Canyon, Zion NP to Las Vegas to San  
Diego.  Did almost the same trip, only 3200 miles in 1962.

Some day I will get a web site - - sigh


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Sep 30, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> Tim,
> Great photos do you know anything about that car? It would be great  
> to see a
> Spridget do the same trip. Any takers? How did they do that in 10  
> days and
> no troubles? I would like to email those guys and ask. What's the  
> website or
> is it just the list serve?
> Lin

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 30 11:56:25 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:56:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
Message-ID: <c8c.2c02fd26.3613c249@aol.com>

So this is David Cameron we're talking about?
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 30/09/2008 02:18:29 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

But just  think, he DOES have more experience than either of the major 
candidates  and we all KNOW that experience is SO very important, right? 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Sep 30 12:21:42 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:21:42 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <c8c.2c02fd26.3613c249@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B6DF40993243420DAC91F2506D0F2168@GuyLaptop>

David Cameron? - I thought it was about Robert Mugabe

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Weslake1330 at aol.com
Sent: 30 September 2008 18:56
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


So this is David Cameron we're talking about?
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 30/09/2008 02:18:29 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

But just  think, he DOES have more experience than either of the major 
candidates  and we all KNOW that experience is SO very important, right? 
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From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Sep 30 13:09:13 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:09:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cross Country NOW WORLD ... Trip
In-Reply-To: <EC0182338F184B29941522EAC826CBF3@GuyLaptop>
References: <205cef430809300833n5a2471c6wa1d3f2281a148763@mail.gmail.com>
	<EC0182338F184B29941522EAC826CBF3@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080930140735.03aa7ea0@nosimport.com>

Guy,
         Outstanding read!  Yikes.   The journal is amazing.

         Thanks
Peter
===
At 12:35 PM 9/30/2008, Guy Weller wrote:
>Currently, this chap is driving his 1500 Midget on an around the world trip.
>Started from the UK, through Europe, and is currently in India. He goes on
>through
>S E Asia and then across Australia before shipping it to USA.
>
>Take a look at his web site:
>http://bridgetthemidget.co.uk/
>
>Guy

From rilegp at charter.net  Tue Sep 30 13:47:11 2008
From: rilegp at charter.net (Gerald P Riley)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:47:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Trans. Re-send
Message-ID: <E173E2DD-E068-4590-9788-B9C2E73B523C@charter.net>

Does anyone in the So Cal area have a usable rib-case tranny
available at a reasonable cost?  My wife has a '53 Triumph Mayflower  
that
had been
converted to a 1098 Midget engine and trans about 40 years ago.  The  
lay gear
has gone south (shaft and/or bearings?).

*my father-in-law Clay L sent out a similar request a couple of weeks  
ago &
now
I've registered w/spridget so I thought I had better repost.
         Thanks for your time,
                             GR

p.s. Vince,
            I'm still interested in yours.
GR

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 15:37:34 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <373089.11884.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> Hawaii to the next country. I would think she must at least
> have more
> foreign policy experience than say...a governor of
> Arkansas, for instance.

I dunno...Clinton went to school in England, and Palin just got her first passport in 2006. Many of us were already aware that outside of our borders are generally where the foreign countries are.

Believe me, this is not to be construed as an endorsement for the other candidate. This whole thing is really disheartening.

Ron

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 30 15:40:52 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:40:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
Message-ID: <c22.48522a42.3613f6e4@aol.com>

I think I'm correct when I say the USA is a foreign country.  If I'm  wrong 
then Guy will correct me.
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 30/09/2008 22:37:54 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com  
writes:

Many of  us were already aware that outside of our borders are generally 
where the  foreign countries are.

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Tue Sep 30 15:49:59 2008
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:49:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Parts
References: <5FF6FD1E-87F6-441D-B146-78FAB122AF88@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <9818D328-09A9-4F8C-82AA-53A908934E11@roadrunner.com>

Sounds like stuff the Holy Sprite could use...

>
> On Sep 30, 2008, at 11:42 AM, John Caffrey wrote:
>
>>  From today's Craigslist. Located in Easton, PA.
>> http://allentown.craigslist.org/pts/860725862.html
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 16:14:59 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:14:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry>
Message-ID: <441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>

I can see the ocean so I clearly am qualified to be the Sectary of the
Navy.  Sort of makes the point.

Admiral Gilroy

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> To: <kk7ss at verizon.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <tinydog at snet.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys
>
>
> >  Canada and Russia *were* foreign
> > countries!!
> I didn't get the inference either. Alaska and Hawaii ARE the only states
> that don't share borders with the rest of the US, and it's a long way from
> Hawaii to the next country. I would think she must at least have more
> foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.
> BZ
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Uh, Billy, the idea that the fact that she can actually SEE foreign
> countries from her state gives her foreign policy experience is what makes
> everybody laugh at her.
>
> I'm not sure I can make that any clearer.  Watch her interviews.  Try not
> to
> laugh.
>
> LAD
>
> (Trying not to laugh.)
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Sep 30 17:24:17 2008
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (kk7ss at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:24:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <373089.11884.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<373089.11884.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48E252B1.22140.13F074D@kk7ss.verizon.net>

My Son David was born in Jakarta, Indonesia when I was on assigment, had 
his first passport at 6 mionths old and lived in 4 countries before he was 3 
years old.......

I still wouldn't vote for him to be President based on that basis!!


On 30 Sep 2008 at 14:37, Ron Soave wrote:
> I dunno...Clinton went to school in England, and Palin just got her
> first passport in 2006.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 30 17:40:58 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:40:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry>
	<441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9CFE71DAB80249B99175F319D3A87423@Larry>

I can see a hospital.  Do I need to go to med school to be a doctor?

Dr. Fine



----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Gilroy
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Billy Zoom ; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys


I can see the ocean so I clearly am qualified to be the Sectary of the Navy.
Sort of makes the point.

Admiral Gilroy


On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
  To: <kk7ss at verizon.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <tinydog at snet.net>
  Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 9:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys



  >  Canada and Russia *were* foreign
  > countries!!
  I didn't get the inference either. Alaska and Hawaii ARE the only states
  that don't share borders with the rest of the US, and it's a long way from
  Hawaii to the next country. I would think she must at least have more
  foreign policy experience than say...a governor of Arkansas, for instance.
  BZ
  _______________________________________________



  Uh, Billy, the idea that the fact that she can actually SEE foreign
  countries from her state gives her foreign policy experience is what makes
  everybody laugh at her.

  I'm not sure I can make that any clearer.  Watch her interviews.  Try not
to
  laugh.

  LAD

  (Trying not to laugh.)

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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep 30 18:04:45 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:04:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry>
	<441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48E2BE9D.4040003@frontiernet.net>

Alaska has carried on a trade agreement with Russia for many years.  
Russian fishing vessels come into all Alaskan ports for supplies and to 
trade.  American Coast Guard vessels and helicopters pick up sick and 
injured Russian seamen and bring them to Alaskan hospitals for 
treatment.  The Governor must  confer with Russian officials to arrange 
their transfer to Russian hospitals or back to their vessels when their 
condition stabilizes.  Russian airliners land in Anchorage.  An 
interesting fact about Aeroflot - all platforms are equipped with a tail 
gunner position.  All that is necessary to ready them for war is to 
remove the passengers.

Kate

Bill Gilroy wrote:
> I can see the ocean so I clearly am qualified to be the Sectary of the
> Navy.  Sort of makes the point.
>
> Admiral Gilroy

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 18:10:10 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:10:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48E252B1.22140.13F074D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<373089.11884.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48E252B1.22140.13F074D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <441250190809301710w70bb8536v894cb4e206e8a80@mail.gmail.com>

Very true, but don't claim foreign policy experience based solely on the
location of your state.  That is weak at best and a lie at worst.  You would
be better to claim no experience; anything else is just trying to fool me.

-g



On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:24 PM, <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> My Son David was born in Jakarta, Indonesia when I was on assigment, had
> his first passport at 6 mionths old and lived in 4 countries before he was
> 3
> years old.......
>
> I still wouldn't vote for him to be President based on that basis!!
>
>
> On 30 Sep 2008 at 14:37, Ron Soave wrote:
> > I dunno...Clinton went to school in England, and Palin just got her
> > first passport in 2006.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 30 19:39:24 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:39:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <9CFE71DAB80249B99175F319D3A87423@Larry>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIELADPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Do I need to go to med school to be a doctor?>>

NOT in your case, Larry !!!

GSA First Aid 'merit badge' should be just 'fine' !!!

<VBG>!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 30 19:40:37 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:40:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMELADPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I can see the ocean so I clearly am qualified to be the Sectary of the
Navy.>>

Sorry Gilroy, TAKEN by Larry Miller !!!

LAD

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Sep 30 18:58:50 2008
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:58:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] News Letter Software
In-Reply-To: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <038701c92293$6afc5b30$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48E2CB4A.10601@cox.net>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:

>OK, I know someone on this list will tell me what to do, not were to go but 
>what to do.
>
>Sandi and I have been doing our club news letter off and on for the past 10 
>years. We have transitioned from postal delivery to web based letters. We 
>use FrontPage because we both used it when we worked for a living and are 
>familiar with it's basic's.
>
>We would like to pass the news letter to someone else who may not be fully 
>versed in building a web page. Not a web site, just a web page.
>
>We are looking for PC software that just about anybody can use to construct 
>a news letter and post it on the web.
>  
>
NVu  is very usable, but it's a dead project as far as development goes. 
Our SCUBA diving club has switched over to Komposer. Komposer is NVu's 
progeny, and it more stable w/ fewer bugs. It still doesn't handle 
frames, but that's not a problem for your format.

http://www.kompozer.net/ for info and downloads.

One suggestion: Build a fresh newsletter template using Komposer. 
FrontPage generates really bloated HTML, and the files are much larger 
than they need to be.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Sep 30 19:06:08 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:06:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Brake sticking
Message-ID: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>

One of my front brake calipers is sticking a little, not retracting properly.  Will a little cleaning and polishing fix this, or must I rebuild it?  The calipers are used of unknown previous condition.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Tue Sep 30 19:14:37 2008
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:14:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48E2BE9D.4040003@frontiernet.net>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry><441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E2BE9D.4040003@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <DFA6A5B73794432A8C3E94B3996812D5@AndrewHP>

Kate,

This is actually really interesting, I have been following this story (both
on this list as well as more mainstream sources of news) since the comment
was made weeks ago.  Somehow, this is the first intelligent answer I have
heard as to why Palin's comment was remotely valid.

I've deleted several overly political rants, and have settled on this:  If
this is true, (which I expect it is) and Palin is remotely qualified to be
VP and likely President; why was she incapable of providing such a lucid
answer in a timely manner and instead hid behind charges of sexism?  On the
upside, so long as she never faces another foe as tough as Katie Couric,
then I guess we'll probably be OK.

Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+andrewpayne=intrex.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+andrewpayne=intrex.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Kathryn Bales
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:05 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] economics of toys

Alaska has carried on a trade agreement with Russia for many years.  
Russian fishing vessels come into all Alaskan ports for supplies and to 
trade.  American Coast Guard vessels and helicopters pick up sick and 
injured Russian seamen and bring them to Alaskan hospitals for 
treatment.  The Governor must  confer with Russian officials to arrange 
their transfer to Russian hospitals or back to their vessels when their 
condition stabilizes.  Russian airliners land in Anchorage.  An 
interesting fact about Aeroflot - all platforms are equipped with a tail 
gunner position.  All that is necessary to ready them for war is to 
remove the passengers.

Kate

Bill Gilroy wrote:
> I can see the ocean so I clearly am qualified to be the Sectary of the
> Navy.  Sort of makes the point.
>
> Admiral Gilroy
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 30 19:35:09 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:35:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <441250190809301710w70bb8536v894cb4e206e8a80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C50821DD.19FB4%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> don't claim foreign policy experience based solely on the
> location of your state.
When in doubt, just vote against anything liberal.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 30 19:35:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:35:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Brake sticking
In-Reply-To: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>
References: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>
Message-ID: <934955C626C941B5814F750F7815BFBB@spider>

Rebuild. They're used.  ..bill in oregon
=====================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:06 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Brake sticking

One of my front brake calipers is sticking a little, not retracting
properly.  Will a little cleaning and polishing fix this, or must I rebuild
it?  The calipers are used of unknown previous condition.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 30 19:36:27 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:36:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Brake sticking
In-Reply-To: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>
Message-ID: <C508222B.19FB5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Send them to Peter. Why take chances?

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Sep 30 19:46:23 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:46:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] economics of toys
In-Reply-To: <48E2BE9D.4040003@frontiernet.net>
References: <C506D7E1.19F3C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><28EEE362C374406594C7C0F19DEAE78E@Larry><441250190809301514l2ec3ad63id44a07016ef5cb00@mail.gmail.com>
	<48E2BE9D.4040003@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <100120080146.1589.48E2D66F000A1F0E0000063522218675169B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog quipped:

It's a shame the Vice-Fluffernutter didn't think to make those claims when asked about her dealings with the Russians.

PS It was reported after the Couric interview that the Guv is not directly involved with the trade commission as she alluded. And the Coast Guard is Federal not State. Also, Foreign aircraft, like let's say from Canada,  landing within one's state doesn't give the Miss Twinkie or any other guv-ah-nah foreign policy credentials. 

McCain's 6 jet crashes are going to pale next to the crash he's engineered for election day. Get your lipstick ready.



  -------------- Original message from Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>: --------------


> Alaska has carried on a trade agreement with Russia for many years.  
> Russian fishing vessels come into all Alaskan ports for supplies and to 
> trade.  American Coast Guard vessels and helicopters pick up sick and 
> injured Russian seamen and bring them to Alaskan hospitals for 
> treatment.  The Governor must  confer with Russian officials to arrange 
> their transfer to Russian hospitals or back to their vessels when their 
> condition stabilizes.  Russian airliners land in Anchorage.  An 
> interesting fact about Aeroflot - all platforms are equipped with a tail 
> gunner position.  All that is necessary to ready them for war is to 
> remove the passengers.
> 
> Kate

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep 30 20:09:37 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:09:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Disk Brake sticking
In-Reply-To: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>
References: <5612DFA69B1A4EBEB2FB02E05ECBDDD6@Home>
Message-ID: <48E2DBE1.9000903@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> One of my front brake calipers is sticking a little, 

How old are the rubber brake hoses?
Anything over 10 years needs to be replaced.
They will have the year embossed on them if from the mid 70s onward.
No date means they are 30 years + old and should have been replaced in 
the 80s.
Also, disc brakes retract with the centrifical force of the spinning rotor.
They will stick a little if the car has not been moved after the brakes 
are applied.
If the rotor gets hot after a few blocks of driving then there is a problem.
Calipers and hoses would be the most common problem.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Sep 30 20:40:05 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:40:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT weekend
In-Reply-To: <737110.52721.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <74199.41931.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<737110.52721.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W19B30F3404B79313D79122C2420@phx.gbl>

I went on Saturday to the first gathering of the Holy OSHIT.
Couldn't make Sunday due to work. :-(
Was great to see old friends, and meet some new ones from the list.
Good to finally put some faces with names, and meet 2 of my fellow
Long Islanders there.
WE beat and banged out, ummmmm, I mean lovingly massaged out
 the dents. (in case Fr Jack is reading).
Learned that it's easier to get at some places when its on its side,
others when its flat. A BFH and pieces of wood make good dent massagers,
for places that are under the boot.
Cut out and tried to learn to weld the patches in.
Frank mostly supervised, as he should. he tried to do far too much
considering
his injury. We got to see the scar and the offending nail., which he has in a
Jar.
To add insult to injury, he went across the street to help a neighbor fix a
screen door,
and got about 10 mosquito bites for his trouble.
Wish I could have been there for Sundays action, to meet Fr. Jack,
to see and learn more about body work and the magic Taco Bell wrappers.
Looking forward to the HOLY OSHIT reassembly meeting....

I'm sure Larry will have pictures up shortly, and Jim when he gets back.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:14:39 -0700
> From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com

> Well, I got home a couple of hours ago from what turned out to be one of
the
> best weekends I've had in a while.  It's probably still going on right now.
I
> know we were still at it this time last night.  In the process, I got to
put
> faces to lots of list members, make a bunch of new friends, and learn a lot
> more about welding & metal working in the process.
>
> We got quite a bit accomplished, but I'll let others put detail to that.
> Suffice it to say that Frank is married to a Saint who put up with a gang
of
> people traipsing in and out of her house all weekend.  Frank, please tell
> Dianne I said thanks one more time.
>
> Father Jack is also quite a character - very much deserving of this no
matter
> what he claims to the contrary.  This is a good project we're doing here.
> Glad I had the opportunity to put in my two cents worth of time and effort.
>
> David Booker
> '71 Midget
> Long Island
>
>


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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 30 23:04:43 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:04:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leak and shocks update
Message-ID: <2932BA7B-280D-4E34-80D6-6F0B7F0DCF07@mac.com>

Hi Folks,

After two weeks of being held prisoner in the garage while work was  
being done on the driveway I finally got the Sprite out today.    
Thanks for all of the suggestions on the gas smells.  Here is the  
update.

Float levels - - are OK

Fuel air mixture - - is OK

Fuel lines - - are OK

Gas tank seals - - are OK

Removed the new air filters and went for a drive - - at higher speeds  
there was still a smell but it was hard to tell if it was fuel or  
hot  oil - - just not strong enough to be sure but there is a oil  
leak to be tracked down now.  The new air filters were foam  
replacements for my hardware and had to pushed into the half sphere  
holders.  I think that they restricted the air flow effectively  
choking the carbs so they were running to rich. Had lower the idle  
after removing the air filters.  Different air filters are on the way.

Also had time to push the Bilstien conversion a bit harder.  What a  
nice ride.  Pushing the corners is more like driving the Miata - -  
you are waiting for the tires to let go rather than hanging on to the  
steering wheel while the suspension does a jig.  If it wasn't for the  
grooves on the interstate switching you back and forth that would be  
a really nice ride also.  Think I will stay with the conversion.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 23:48:31 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:48:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT weekend
Message-ID: <755003.33371.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK all you image-starved Listers out there - I just managed to upload a bunch
of images from this weekend to the site Larry pointed me to yesterday.  They
don't seem to have posted in the order I uploaded them, but when I looked a
few minutes ago, they start on page 5.  They all have a prefix of "HolySprite
body wkend".  I didn't take the time to name the images individually.  My
computer is also having some issues so there are a couple of shots in there
(like close-ups of some of the liquids used) that I didn't intend to upload. 
What the heck, It will give Larry something to do removing them.
 
I'm obviously not a pro and my camera is a bit shy of excellent, but I think
you'll enjoy them.

 - David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:



Pics URL:  http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141


 

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Sep 30 23:04:43 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:04:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gas leak and shocks update
Message-ID: <2932BA7B-280D-4E34-80D6-6F0B7F0DCF07@mac.com>

Hi Folks,

After two weeks of being held prisoner in the garage while work was  
being done on the driveway I finally got the Sprite out today.    
Thanks for all of the suggestions on the gas smells.  Here is the  
update.

Float levels - - are OK

Fuel air mixture - - is OK

Fuel lines - - are OK

Gas tank seals - - are OK

Removed the new air filters and went for a drive - - at higher speeds  
there was still a smell but it was hard to tell if it was fuel or  
hot  oil - - just not strong enough to be sure but there is a oil  
leak to be tracked down now.  The new air filters were foam  
replacements for my hardware and had to pushed into the half sphere  
holders.  I think that they restricted the air flow effectively  
choking the carbs so they were running to rich. Had lower the idle  
after removing the air filters.  Different air filters are on the way.

Also had time to push the Bilstien conversion a bit harder.  What a  
nice ride.  Pushing the corners is more like driving the Miata - -  
you are waiting for the tires to let go rather than hanging on to the  
steering wheel while the suspension does a jig.  If it wasn't for the  
grooves on the interstate switching you back and forth that would be  
a really nice ride also.  Think I will stay with the conversion.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 30 23:48:31 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:48:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OSHIT weekend
Message-ID: <755003.33371.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK all you image-starved Listers out there - I just managed to upload a bunch
of images from this weekend to the site Larry pointed me to yesterday.  They
don't seem to have posted in the order I uploaded them, but when I looked a
few minutes ago, they start on page 5.  They all have a prefix of "HolySprite
body wkend".  I didn't take the time to name the images individually.  My
computer is also having some issues so there are a couple of shots in there
(like close-ups of some of the liquids used) that I didn't intend to upload. 
What the heck, It will give Larry something to do removing them.
 
I'm obviously not a pro and my camera is a bit shy of excellent, but I think
you'll enjoy them.

 - David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Mon, 9/29/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:



Pics URL:  http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141