From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu May  1 06:51:56 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:51:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <406489.73135.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40B8949B59B9D3ACC7EB41B8DB0@phx.gbl>

Now ... what do you mean by that?

I would think that never putting 'extra' engine blocks in your car would be 
better for gas mileage than dropping them off as you go.

On the other hand, perhaps you meant dropping off the one engine block 
that's in the car and Flintstoning it from there?

Which reminds me of a comment made by a mechanic while doing a safety 
inspection on some car that I purchased many many moons ago: "We don't check 
anything having to do with the engine.  A car that doesn't run is as safe as 
it gets."  ( I was going to reply that it depends when it decides to stop 
running, but thought better of it. )

RD
Yeah, I know ... more coffee ...




----Original Message Follows----
From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>

--- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
 > Holding constant throttle improves mileage.

So does dropping off engine blocks at people's houses
halfway through the tour.

Ron

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Thu May  1 08:16:41 2008
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:16:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
Message-ID: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>

Is there a swap meet coming up in Carlisle Pa in May? I seem to have misplaced
my schedule.
Thanks

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu May  1 07:25:08 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 13:25:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Boone, NC? No LBC*
Message-ID: <050120081325.21570.4819C4B400025038000054422215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Sic em, Ed!

--David C.
If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea...
does that mean that one enjoys it? 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Boone, NC, eh?   Can you squeal like a pig.....?     ;-)
> 
> Only kidding for you NC natives....
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On 4/30/08, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, I'll be on vacation in Boone, NC from 5/2 until 5/9. Any listers in
> > the area that might want to meet up?
> > --
> > Kent
> > 1960 Bugeye
> > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest
> > acquisition
> > 1973 Midget
> >
> > PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?
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From abcoz at hky.com  Thu May  1 07:40:10 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:40:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>
Message-ID: <007e01c8ab90$e0a7e900$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Import Carlisle will be held May 16, 17 & 18.  There will, also, be a
Sprite 50th celebration held in conjunction with the swap meet.  If you
are within reasonable driving distance of Carlisle, it is an event never
to be missed.
BTW, those who only come for one day are missing out on some great parts
deals & good times.  Best way to attend the event is to be there for
Friday AND Saturday, as well as a little bit of Sunday, if you can spare
the time.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Fournier
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:17 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show

Is there a swap meet coming up in Carlisle Pa in May? I seem to have
misplaced
my schedule.
Thanks
_______________________________________________

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Thu May  1 07:26:57 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>
References: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>
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Jim,



Carlisle Import Show,

May 16th, 17th, and 18th






On May 1, 2008, at 10:16 AM, Jim Fournier wrote:

> Is there a swap meet coming up in Carlisle Pa in May? I seem to  
> have misplaced
> my schedule.
> Thanks
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  1 07:48:43 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:48:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block
References: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<48195479.3030309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <017601c8ab92$1280b960$6401a8c0@Larry>

James,

If you are only interested in an auto-x car, you may want to rethink the 
Sprite idea.  First of all you can put whatever motor you want in there for 
the go-fast part, but you still need to stop fast and corner fast.  Putting 
a new motor in there will put you into a modified class against outright 
racecars.  That will take some serious bucks in your Sprite to come close to 
competing with.  Unless your local competition is really weak, you won't be 
taking home the trophies.

For a lot less money and a seriously fast auto-x car, think about buying a 
used Formula 500 SCCA race car. You can pick up an older one for a few 
thousand dollars which is peanuts compared to what you will put in that 
Sprite and you will be much, much faster.  The F500 is one of the cheapest 
and fastest ways to compete in auto-x.  If you can drive well, you will 
rarely, if ever, get beat by anything.

Larry Daniels
ex- F500 road racer and auto-x





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William M. Gilroy" <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
To: "James Coppage" <apexshot at att.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Person on the block


For poop you pants speed check out a Mazda 13B.  For real fast check out
the Toyota AG4xx engine series.   Plenty of go fast parts and you won't
be the first to transplant these power plants.

Where are you located?

Gilroy

James Coppage wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
>   I have a older AHS or Austin Healy Sprite it the one with the half rear 
> leaf spring. It has many thickness of rust so it would be a poor car for 
> the rebuild. So I have a need for speed
>   so I am planning on building a rocket ship for Auto x using a Datsun 
> engine and a Datsun 5 speed but having a difficult time locating engine 
> parts. Any ideas! Or would I better off to use
>   a different engine due to its too old?
>   Jim
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu May  1 07:56:25 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:56:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
References: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>
	<059E389A-FAFE-42F0-B5B0-8899A69246B9@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <004201c8ab93$260b34f0$2f01a8c0@dell1>

 Jim,


 Carlisle Import Show, May 16th, 17th, and 18th, 
http://www.carlisleevents.com/ce/events/import/

and

Sprite Jubilee '08, May 16 to the 20th, 
http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/index.html
Not to be missed.

Biff Jones
'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye
'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite
http://sprites2.homestead.com/

From miniac7 at aol.com  Thu May  1 08:03:54 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 10:03:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
In-Reply-To: <004201c8ab93$260b34f0$2f01a8c0@dell1>
References: <000801c8ab95$fa3fc860$01fea8c0@HOMEPC>
	<059E389A-FAFE-42F0-B5B0-8899A69246B9@valentinephoto.net>
	<004201c8ab93$260b34f0$2f01a8c0@dell1>
Message-ID: <8CA79AB531DD106-624-105F@WEBMAIL-MC16.sysops.aol.com>

I'll be at both events starting on Friday. Hope to see many of you there.

Howard Collins
Viorginia Beach, VA.


-----Original Message-----
From: Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net>
To: Jim Fournier <jimndi at frontiernet.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show



 Jim,


 Carlisle Import Show, May 16th, 17th, and 18th, 
http://www.carlisleevents.com/ce/events/import/

and

Sprite Jubilee '08, May 16 to the 20th, 
http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/index.html
Not to be missed.

Biff Jones
'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye
'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite
http://sprites2.homestead.com/
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu May  1 08:05:46 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:05:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block
References: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><48195479.3030309@gmail.com>
	<017601c8ab92$1280b960$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <011b01c8ab94$74740850$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> If you are only interested in an auto-x car, you may want to rethink the
> Sprite idea.  First of all you can put whatever motor you want in there 
> for
> the go-fast part, but you still need to stop fast and corner fast. 
> Putting
> a new motor in there will put you into a modified class against outright
> racecars.  That will take some serious bucks in your Sprite to come close 
> to
> competing with.  Unless your local competition is really weak, you won't 
> be
> taking home the trophies.

Larry is 100% right on this one. If you are wanting to build a car for 
autox, you really have to dissect the rules of the group where you want to 
run. For instance, I run with the local Miata club and they have two classes 
of non-Miatas; one for the tiddlers and one for the unlimited. I have modded 
my Midget to the point where I run in the Unlimited Class, cause I got tired 
of winning the Tiddlers Class. OTOH, if I were to leave my race rubber at 
home, I could technically run in T. OTOH, by the Madison Sports Car Club 
rule-book, even without race tires I would be one class under full race and 
not even close to being competitive. Horse for courses as they say. In the 
right class, with the right mods, a relatively stock Spridget can be a lot 
of fun.

Part B is that, unless you have several seasons of autocrossing under your 
belt, YOU are the limiting factor, no matter what you are driving. If you 
are starting out in autocross, spend a couple years or so driving your daily 
driver for it. You need to learn lines, you need to learn smooth, you need 
to learn apexes, and you need to learn that you aren't the next Michael 
Schumacher ;-) It can be very educational to have one of the hot shoes drive 
the course in your car... firstly it is a trifle humbling, secondly, you can 
watch the number of things that he can do and you can't, thirdly, he can 
then give you advice on how to drive the course in your car.

Autocross is fun! Autocross in a Spridget is a blast. You won't be winning 
anything much the first couple years no matter what equipment you have, wait 
until you know to make the mods. A friend of mine races Spec Miata; while he 
was earning his SCCA novice license, he asked one of the other drivers what 
tire pressure he should run. The man's response was exactly right... "run 
them at X psi until you can feel the difference." In your case, run stock 
until you can benefit from a change.
David Lieb 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu May  1 09:57:26 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:57:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
Message-ID: <2064811.1209657446874.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Bud and all,

I use to attend every Import Carlisle up until the last few years.  I kept on noticing that it was getting smaller and smaller as far as the swap meet part of it went.  I had a great time going to Carlisle.  You never knew what you were gonna find!

Is it still suffering because of ebay?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
>Sent: May 1, 2008 9:40 AM
>To: 'Jim Fournier' <jimndi at frontiernet.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show
>
>Import Carlisle will be held May 16, 17 & 18.  There will, also, be a
>Sprite 50th celebration held in conjunction with the swap meet.  If you
>are within reasonable driving distance of Carlisle, it is an event never
>to be missed.
>BTW, those who only come for one day are missing out on some great parts
>deals & good times.  Best way to attend the event is to be there for
>Friday AND Saturday, as well as a little bit of Sunday, if you can spare
>the time.
>Bud Osbourne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim
>Fournier
>Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:17 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
>
>Is there a swap meet coming up in Carlisle Pa in May? I seem to have
>misplaced
>my schedule.
>Thanks


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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu May  1 10:07:39 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:07:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net>
References: <C43E2C45.17587%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029217FA@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

For the average American "one hand on the cell phone, the other on a Big
Mac" driver, cruise probably helps by smoothing out throttle inputs.  I
think Billy's right (that's A WHOLE LOT of experience paying for fuel)
in the case of someone who pays attention to what his right foot is
doing and how the car is responding to terrain.
JohnD

-----Original Message-----
From: Kate [mailto:kgb at frontiernet.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:18 PM
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control

I have to agree with this.  All my American vehicles are equipped with
cruise, but I seldom, if ever, use it.  The first reason is that I find
it easier to stay awake on long trips if I am actually driving the car,
but my fuel economy increases without the cruise.  The cruise control is

constantly adjusting the throttle which reduces economy any place other
than on long, flat, straight roads.  People often ask how my old
Cherokee manages to get nearly 30 MPG on trips, and I tell them that I
don't use the cruise control.  I sometimes forget to mention that the
emission control system has been disabled, but I'm sure that would have
nothing at all to do with fuel economy.

Kate

Billy Zoom wrote:
> Cruise control lowers mileage considerably. It constantly changes the
> throttle to maintain a constant speed.
> Holding constant throttle improves mileage.

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu May  1 10:38:43 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:38:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
In-Reply-To: <2064811.1209657446874.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009401c8aba9$d1ef4200$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Not sure whether it was that awful run of cold, rainy weather we had
(the last two years or so have been pretty sweet) or eBay that hurt it
the most.  It is true that the swap meet part is significantly smaller
than it was 10 years ago.  However, you can still find some great stuff
for your Brit cars & VWs there, as well as for other European (and,
recently, Japanese) classics.  They've boosted the attendance, in recent
years, with the car show part of it.  I expect to see a great bunch of
Spridgets and their owners attending this year's event.  
I'll be hanging out with my buddies from the Western PA Triumph Assn.
We've got 3 vendor spaces in row C (as I recall), but I can't remember
the numbers.  Anyhow, the club always has a banner hung up, somewhere.
So, if you see it (the WPTA banner), stop by and have a beer with me/us.
Not sure if I'm bringing the Midget, or not.  I need to have my truck
there, but I really don't want to trailer the Midget anywhere.  My
youngest son might bring the truck, freeing me to drive the Midget out.
We'll see.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:57 AM
To: Bud Osbourne; 'Jim Fournier'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show

Hi Bud and all,

I use to attend every Import Carlisle up until the last few years.  I
kept on noticing that it was getting smaller and smaller as far as the
swap meet part of it went.  I had a great time going to Carlisle.  You
never knew what you were gonna find!

Is it still suffering because of ebay?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
>Sent: May 1, 2008 9:40 AM
>To: 'Jim Fournier' <jimndi at frontiernet.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show
>
>Import Carlisle will be held May 16, 17 & 18.  There will, also, be a
>Sprite 50th celebration held in conjunction with the swap meet.  If you
>are within reasonable driving distance of Carlisle, it is an event
never
>to be missed.
>BTW, those who only come for one day are missing out on some great
parts
>deals & good times.  Best way to attend the event is to be there for
>Friday AND Saturday, as well as a little bit of Sunday, if you can
spare
>the time.
>Bud Osbourne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim
>Fournier
>Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:17 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show
>
>Is there a swap meet coming up in Carlisle Pa in May? I seem to have
>misplaced
>my schedule.
>Thanks


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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu May  1 10:32:41 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:32:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
References: <C43E2C45.17587%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029217FA@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <001601c8aba8$fc6ebbb0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I certainly respect the greater experience of others as to cruise controls 
and gas mileage.  In my case its primarily to take the strain off my right 
knee.  Without a cruise control I'd have great difficulty with the three to 
four all-day-drives needed to get to Missouri.  After an hour or two it 
begins to stiffen up and become painful.  Being able to drop the leg and 
relax it frequently helps a lot.  I'm more than willing to trade the 
difference in mileage for the ability to get out of the car when I get where 
I'm going.

Glen



> For the average American "one hand on the cell phone, the other on a Big
> Mac" driver, cruise probably helps by smoothing out throttle inputs.  I
> think Billy's right (that's A WHOLE LOT of experience paying for fuel)
> in the case of someone who pays attention to what his right foot is
> doing and how the car is responding to terrain.
> JohnD

From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu May  1 11:06:53 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:06:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show, Now Carlisle
References: <2064811.1209657446874.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009a01c8abad$c33c9b00$2f01a8c0@dell1>

The biggest blow to the Carlisle Sports and Import show was Carlisle 
Productions themselves. A few years back they said they were going to move 
the date of the show and give the weekend in May to the boom box crowd. A 
petition was taken of/by the vendors to keep it as it was and give the boom 
box people another date. Carlisle Productions waited until late Sunday 
afternoon to "announce" that the Sports and Import/kitcar schedule would not 
be changed. By the time they made their announcement most of the vendors had 
left! The next year fewer vendors were there and this trend has continued. 
Now the state of Pa. has stepped in and decreed that the hobby vendors at 
Carlisle have to have a Pa. sales tax permit in order to sell any goods. 
This will probably kill the hobby vendor 
attendance....................................

Biff Jones 

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu May  1 11:20:00 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
References: <C43E2C45.17587%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net><E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029217FA@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
	<001601c8aba8$fc6ebbb0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <00b901c8abaf$96e55ea0$53997e4c@HP>

It's also probably safer then using the left foot on the throttle like I 
sometimes do on long drives :-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control


>I certainly respect the greater experience of others as to cruise controls
> and gas mileage.  In my case its primarily to take the strain off my right
> knee.  Without a cruise control I'd have great difficulty with the three 
> to
> four all-day-drives needed to get to Missouri.  After an hour or two it
> begins to stiffen up and become painful.  Being able to drop the leg and
> relax it frequently helps a lot.  I'm more than willing to trade the
> difference in mileage for the ability to get out of the car when I get 
> where
> I'm going.
>
> Glen
>
>
>
>> For the average American "one hand on the cell phone, the other on a Big
>> Mac" driver, cruise probably helps by smoothing out throttle inputs.  I
>> think Billy's right (that's A WHOLE LOT of experience paying for fuel)
>> in the case of someone who pays attention to what his right foot is
>> doing and how the car is responding to terrain.
>> JohnD
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From abcoz at hky.com  Thu May  1 11:37:51 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:37:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show, Now Carlisle
In-Reply-To: <009a01c8abad$c33c9b00$2f01a8c0@dell1>
Message-ID: <009801c8abb2$14c14d00$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Biff,
Yes, I had forgotten about that proposed date change.  And you are
right; it sure cost them a lot of vendors.
Re: PA Dept. of Revenue.  Not so much.  There was an "urban myth"
circulated several years ago, saying the same thing.  It was found to be
totally baseless, as I suspect it will be, this time around.  However,
"professional" vendors (those who make their living selling old car
parts, tools & restoration supplies) are and have been required to
collect the PA 6% sales tax for the past several years.
Of greater concern, to those planning to attend this year, should be the
latest attempt by the PA State Police to disguise an illegal "quota
system" for traffic citations as "Operation Smooth Operator".  The only
smooth operator is our "teamster thug" governor, Fast Eddie Rendell, who
needs more revenue to augment the (approximately) $265,000,000 revenue
surplus the state is experiencing.  So, in addition to the Carlisle
cop's speed traps (primarily on route 11, between downtown and the
Turnpike), you need to be on the lookout for PA State Troopers acting as
rolling tax collectors.
The good news is that local police depts., in PA, are not permitted to
use radar, and the state cops do not use "moving radar" (in other words,
they only use radar when they are parked alongside the road, or, for
example, sitting on an overpass.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Biff Jones
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:07 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show, Now Carlisle

The biggest blow to the Carlisle Sports and Import show was Carlisle 
Productions themselves. A few years back they said they were going to
move 
the date of the show and give the weekend in May to the boom box crowd.
A 
petition was taken of/by the vendors to keep it as it was and give the
boom 
box people another date. Carlisle Productions waited until late Sunday 
afternoon to "announce" that the Sports and Import/kitcar schedule would
not 
be changed. By the time they made their announcement most of the vendors
had 
left! The next year fewer vendors were there and this trend has
continued. 
Now the state of Pa. has stepped in and decreed that the hobby vendors
at 
Carlisle have to have a Pa. sales tax permit in order to sell any goods.

This will probably kill the hobby vendor 
attendance....................................

Biff Jones 
_______________________________________________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 13:49:10 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:49:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block
In-Reply-To: <48195479.3030309@gmail.com>
References: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<48195479.3030309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10805011249h4d618745t9eff364c0a68a33c@mail.gmail.com>

One of the biggest...if not THE biggest...problems with running our cars is
that newer, current technology, cars run in the same class.

Very hard to compete.  Our club follows SCCA rules.

Besides running a Bugeye, I also run a stock Triumph TR8...up against MR2s
and others.  Started autocross in '65.

Like someone said.  YOU make the difference, not the engine.

Herb

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu May  1 14:28:41 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:28:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <406489.73135.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C43E2C45.17587%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<406489.73135.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029217FE@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

One less mouth to feed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:39 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control

--- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> Holding constant throttle improves mileage.

So does dropping off engine blocks at people's houses
halfway through the tour.

Ron



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From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  1 14:31:29 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 16:31:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
Message-ID: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>

Hi -

My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts 
can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here -> 
http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html

-- 

Marc

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 15:00:25 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:00:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805011400i609e811bgf8333eb555355267@mail.gmail.com>

What year car?  What kind of lube are you running in the tranny?


On 5/1/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
> Hi -
>
>  My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts
>  can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here ->
>  http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html
>
>  --
>
>  Marc
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 15:02:11 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:02:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805011400i609e811bgf8333eb555355267@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
	<5f00d9910805011400i609e811bgf8333eb555355267@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805011402o37d55e35u78c04dee90a5b2df@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I see 73.  Lube?
There is one gear that always wears on those transmissions.  I think
it is the 1st/Reverse lay gear.

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  1 15:03:31 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:03:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805011402o37d55e35u78c04dee90a5b2df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>	
	<5f00d9910805011400i609e811bgf8333eb555355267@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910805011402o37d55e35u78c04dee90a5b2df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481A3023.3020600@smarc.net>

I have no idea whats in the transmission. The level is good, and it 
looks ok. I haven't changed it yet...

Marc



derf wrote:
> OK, I see 73.  Lube?
> There is one gear that always wears on those transmissions.  I think
> it is the 1st/Reverse lay gear.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May  1 15:20:29 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:20:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <481A341D.8080700@comcast.net>

Marc wrote:
> Hi -
>
> My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts 
> can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here -> 
> http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html
>
>   
It sounds like all the other Spridgets first gears.
It is a straight cut gear and is louder than the others.
Sounds like it's just a bit tired.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu May  1 15:21:03 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:21:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <481A3023.3020600@smarc.net>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
	<5f00d9910805011400i609e811bgf8333eb555355267@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910805011402o37d55e35u78c04dee90a5b2df@mail.gmail.com>
	<481A3023.3020600@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805011421m49ec0c38p9271f7f07a970abe@mail.gmail.com>

It should NOT be 80/90 gear oil.  I think 30wt motor oil is good.
(Someone will correct me if it isn't).  So, if it is dark and not
honey colored, you should probably drain it and try the correct fluid.

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  1 15:42:44 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <481A341D.8080700@comcast.net>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net> <481A341D.8080700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <481A3954.2080508@smarc.net>

   I  also found that I have to double clutch to shift from 3rd to 4th to
   avoid 'chunking'.
   I'm gonna change the slave and hose - they're both really nasty...
   Frank Clarici wrote:

Marc wrote:

Hi -

My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts
can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here ->
http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html

It sounds like all the other Spridgets first gears.
It is a straight cut gear and is louder than the others.
Sounds like it's just a bit tired.

From jerry.goodman at comcast.net  Thu May  1 15:54:51 2008
From: jerry.goodman at comcast.net (Jerry Goodman)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:54:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Solution for Noisy 1st gear
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <000901c8abd5$fb95c760$0501a8c0@JERRYSCOMP>

Marc:

Very inexpensive solution is to turn the volume up on the radio

Jerry G

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Thu May  1 15:54:07 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:54:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
Message-ID: <8BEB267F-1F2E-4C8E-B480-554A154BC285@valentinephoto.net>

On May 1, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Marc wrote:


>    I  also found that I have to double clutch to shift from 3rd to  
> 4th to
>    avoid 'chunking'.
>    I'm gonna change the slave and hose - they're both really nasty...
>


Marc,

If the slave is not leaking it is good/working.

If it is leaking (even a little bit), it needs either a kit or new  
slave).

Kevin V.

From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu May  1 16:00:16 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:00:16 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 11, Issue 55
Message-ID: <bbb.2771c6ff.354b9770@aol.com>

Would also probably fit TR4-6....same cockpit and windshield....
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 4/30/2008 10:09:12 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

hardtop  which I think is for a Spitfire MKIV & 1500
Check out the pic to make  sure.
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/spittop.jpg
$50 works for  me.






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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu May  1 17:06:17 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:06:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <001801c8abdf$fba79620$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Usually the layshaft is galled and the layshaft roller bearings are toast. 
That's most of the characteristic whine.  Add in a new pilotshaft  and 
tailshaft bearing, new synchros, and a cursory look at the other mainshaft 
roller bearings will finish a "good enough" rebuild.

Glen


> Hi -
>
> My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts
> can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here ->
> http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  1 17:15:30 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:15:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Solution for Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <000901c8abd5$fb95c760$0501a8c0@JERRYSCOMP>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
	<000901c8abd5$fb95c760$0501a8c0@JERRYSCOMP>
Message-ID: <481A4F12.30304@smarc.net>

Yeah, that would work - if it HAD a radio! ;-)

Jerry Goodman wrote:
> Marc:
>
> Very inexpensive solution is to turn the volume up on the radio
>
> Jerry G
> _______________________________________________

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  1 17:22:14 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:22:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Noisy 1st gear
In-Reply-To: <001801c8abdf$fba79620$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <481A28A1.4040303@smarc.net>
	<001801c8abdf$fba79620$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <481A50A6.4090807@smarc.net>

I'm sure that a transmission rebuild is not a job I want to undertake... 
Think a trans swap is more my speed.

Glen Byrns wrote:
> Usually the layshaft is galled and the layshaft roller bearings are toast. 
> That's most of the characteristic whine.  Add in a new pilotshaft  and 
> tailshaft bearing, new synchros, and a cursory look at the other mainshaft 
> roller bearings will finish a "good enough" rebuild.
>
> Glen
>
>
>   
>> Hi -
>>
>> My 1st  gear is REALLY loud. I was hoping one of you spridget experts
>> can give me your thoughts on this? You can see/hear it here ->
>> http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/movies.html
>>     
> _______________________________________________

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu May  1 17:44:18 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:44:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <C43E7670.1759A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20080501234421.XPBR24776.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Just made my donation a few days ago in Milwaukee County...

Yes, shame on me, but my attorney friend said they have been screwing down
harder for lost revenue because of all the snow this past year.

Chris
Brookfield, WI



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:18 PM
To: Peter Shull
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control

> like so many other small municipalities
> throughout our nation, speed traps and the like can be considered an
> essential source of revenue.
No, that was Wisconsin.

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu May  1 17:55:40 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 16:55:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <20080501234421.XPBR24776.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <C43E7670.1759A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<20080501234421.XPBR24776.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <4819F60C.3437.237D432@dmg.bossig.com>

My "donation" is tomorrow at 2:45pm.....
It's the way they get money now that the referendum made them change the annual 
"sales" tax on your vehicle to a $35 annual "tab" fee.... 

On 1 May 2008 at 18:44, Chris Manuel wrote:
>> Just made my donation a few days ago in Milwaukee County...
>> 
>> Yes, shame on me, but my attorney friend said they have been screwing
>> down harder for lost revenue because of all the snow this past year.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May  1 17:57:31 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 16:57:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <20080501234421.XPBR24776.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <C43FA6FB.17603%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Just made my donation a few days ago in Milwaukee County...
They like California plates, and the cops have credit card machines in their
cars.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  1 18:32:44 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:32:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
References: <C43FA6FB.17603%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <02fc01c8abec$0a8ccb90$6401a8c0@Larry>

A simple way to break the habit of contributing to the Policemen's Ball is 
to not speed.

An added bonus is that then you don't have to say something incredibly 
stupid like, "I knew the law, I decided to break the law, it is somebody 
else's fault that I got caught".

An attorney that I used to work with loved to drive fast and got nailed on 
average of once a year while on the job.  He called it the price of doing 
business.  He never blamed the cops who caught him when he was in the wrong.

You can decide not to speed or you can pay the price and shut up.

LAD

P.S. Yeah, I've been busted, but I've been speeding about a thousand times 
for every time I got caught.  That's pretty damned good odds in my book. 
And I never bitched about getting caught.

P.P.S. BZ, I can't include you on the 1.5 over.  That's a pretty cheap bust. 
End of the month? 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May  1 18:50:39 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:50:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <02fc01c8abec$0a8ccb90$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <C43FB36F.1760C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> to not speed.
But they have ridiculous speed limits. If we drove the speed limit, we'd
only be able to play three or four shows a week. Plus, we're from
California...where average traffic moves at about 80mph without hassle.
BZ

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu May  1 19:00:37 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 20:00:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hanger
Message-ID: <B8EAB26486344BAF8DA060032EFB7FA5@Home>

I have finally bowed to the inevitable and must deal with a spring hanger.  The guy who came to look at the repair wanted to replace the entire rear bulkhead assembly for $$$.  Pictures at 

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh6/mdrowe_photo/Spring%20Hanger/  

show what is left of the oval access hole and the two torn-out captive nuts.  The rusted out floor panel shown in the second picture has been patched from the inside, so only needs cleaning and rewelding.  I really need advice on this repair.  Do I just cut out a big chunk to match the spring hanger box and weld it in?  Should I also get a spring hanger patch and floor patch to go with the hanger box.  All I really need for this area is enough strength to support the spring, which could be achieved with a big flat bar cut to shape and maybe some reinforcing bar on the floor and bulkhead inside.  Not authentic, I agree, but to my inexperience appears much easier than cutting big holes.  Any advice?  Can any of the good dealers on this list provide advice with the patches?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Thu May  1 20:20:43 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 19:20:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A little about the Paul A fund ...
Message-ID: <002201c8abfb$203081d0$7c046f47@DBKF4T81>

First, the effects of the fund are exactly what we'd hoped for ... it's going
a long way to help tide Paul over. I want to thank all of you who have
participated or will participate. You are making a huge difference.

Now, please let me digress a bit, only for the purposes of illustration. I
recently picked up a couple of new prescriptions. One was for a high-tech
arthritis drug (over $1300 for one month's supply). The other was for a
high-tech asthma inhaler (over $200 for one month's supply). The point? I have
a steady job, am still in my "peak earning years" and, even more to the point,
I have very good insurance coverage. Right now, I don't really have to worry
much at all about anything remotely resembling an additional financial
"burden".

Now I do not know the exact nature of Paul's Medicare Part D prescription
coverage, and am not an expert on the topic, but none of the options sound
particularly appealing. Apparently, the standard benefit (offered by about 10%
of plans) requires payment of a $265 deductible, after which the beneficiary
then pays 25% of the cost of a covered Part D prescription. This initial
coverage has a limit of $2400. Many plans don't make use of this standard
benefit and instead opt for the use of tiered co-payments ... until the
initial coverage is exhausted. Once the initial coverage limit is reached, the
beneficiary has to deal with another deductible, due to which they must pay
the full cost of medicine until total out-of-pocket expenses total $3850 for
the year.

So, no matter the plan / deductible / co-pay, when Paul talks about just one
of his non-chemotherapy prescriptions costing $180 a pop, you know he is
incurring an additional expense that he'd not included in his very careful
budgeting process. And you also know that having to rely solely on Social
Security until he gets back on his feet is not going to allow him much wiggle
room

The point? Again, you are making a huge difference and, again, I wish to thank
you all.

Pete

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May  1 20:25:36 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 21:25:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
References: <C43FB36F.1760C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <036801c8abfb$cf015090$6401a8c0@Larry>

Hey, I hear you, Billy, but that's your choices.

If I could drive as fast as I wanted, I could either see more clients or 
spend more time at home.  Either one would be preferable to driving like my 
grandmother.   I hate it, but that's the cards we are are dealt.

I just drove 470 miles round trip this week to see one client.  I could 
easily have knocked a couple of hours off the trip if I drove at a speed 
that isn't so boring as to make me sleepy.  Like Sammy, I can't drive 55, 
either.

You make your choice and you pay the price, but it is your choice.

LAD




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control


> to not speed.
But they have ridiculous speed limits. If we drove the speed limit, we'd
only be able to play three or four shows a week. Plus, we're from
California...where average traffic moves at about 80mph without hassle.
BZ

From tinydog at snet.net  Thu May  1 22:08:01 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 04:08:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hanger
In-Reply-To: <B8EAB26486344BAF8DA060032EFB7FA5@Home>
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"Any advice?"


 
tinydog sez:
Yes. Cut your losses and buy another car. You just stepped onto the set of the Spridget version of Halloween.


 -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: --------------


> I have finally bowed to the inevitable and must deal with a spring hanger.  The 
> guy who came to look at the repair wanted to replace the entire rear bulkhead 
> assembly for $$$.  Pictures at 
> 
> http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh6/mdrowe_photo/Spring%20Hanger/  
> 
> show what is left of the oval access hole and the two torn-out captive nuts.  
> The rusted out floor panel shown in the second picture has been patched from the 
> inside, so only needs cleaning and rewelding.  I really need advice on this 
> repair.  Do I just cut out a big chunk to match the spring hanger box and weld 
> it in?  Should I also get a spring hanger patch and floor patch to go with the 
> hanger box.  All I really need for this area is enough strength to support the 
> spring, which could be achieved with a big flat bar cut to shape and maybe some 
> reinforcing bar on the floor and bulkhead inside.  Not authentic, I agree, but 
> to my inexperience appears much easier than cutting big holes.  Any advice?  Can 
> any of the good dealers on this list provide advice with the patches?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu May  1 22:57:06 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 23:57:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Les Paul
Message-ID: <481A9F22.8040007@wi.net>

FWIW:
For you music aficionados, Milwaukee's Discovery World Museum is 
developing a new exhibit. When I was teaching I took classes for 12 day 
trips on he Denis Sullivan while it was in Florida.  It's quite a place 
and I'm glad they are honoring a fellow Waukesha WI boy.  Their web site 
is:  http://www.discoveryworld.org/    No mention it about the exhibit yet.

Here's the announcement:
*One-of-a-kind Exhibit to Open in June at Discovery World! *

We are truly excited to announce a brand new exhibit, "Les Paul's House 
of Sound," which will open at Discovery World in June. Les Paul has been 
at the forefront of music, entertainment, electronics and technology for 
nearly 80 years, and he got his start as a youngster right here in 
Waukesha, Wisconsin. This summer, Discovery World will use Les' personal 
collection to showcase the evolution of innovations like the modern 
electric guitar and sound mixing.

Most people know about the Les Paul guitar, but many don't know that he 
was a music and television star and a lifetime innovator who has 
inspired musicians and non-musicians for generations. Our exhibit will 
enable visitors to seek the inspiration and creative energy that have 
made Les a pioneer and renowned artist for decades. Starting in June, we 
will display inventions and instruments that nobody has seen in more 
than 50 years. The spirit of ingenuity and innovation in Les Paul is 
spirit of Wisconsin and Discovery World, and we can't wait to inspire 
"kids" from 8 - 80 with this unique experience.


Here's a piece about it on our NBC affiliate.  You have to sit through a 
Mazda 3 ad first.
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/18424889.html?video=pop&t=a&brand=mkevideo

OK, now back to changing the oil in Sprite and MGA.

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
05 MCS
Burlington WI

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Thu May  1 23:59:09 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 01:59:09 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Show, Now Carlisle
Message-ID: <23855936.1209707949909.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

biff!  
i will be attending with my race car. hmm, who's to say that i could not be bringing a bunch of parts for "friends" in my 20' enclosed trailer?   i do posess a Pa state sales tax credential.  but buddies swapping bits to keep vintage cars running.....well you live out of state.  :)  just wore my "O.S.H.I.T." SHIRT YESTERDAY! :)

chuck.
"been there , broke that , fixed it , and broke it again!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net>
>Sent: May 1, 2008 1:06 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Show, Now Carlisle
>
>The biggest blow to the Carlisle Sports and Import show was Carlisle 
>Productions themselves. A few years back they said they were going to move 
>the date of the show and give the weekend in May to the boom box crowd. A 
>petition was taken of/by the vendors to keep it as it was and give the boom 
>box people another date. Carlisle Productions waited until late Sunday 
>afternoon to "announce" that the Sports and Import/kitcar schedule would not 
>be changed. By the time they made their announcement most of the vendors had 
>left! The next year fewer vendors were there and this trend has continued. 
>Now the state of Pa. has stepped in and decreed that the hobby vendors at 
>Carlisle have to have a Pa. sales tax permit in order to sell any goods. 
>This will probably kill the hobby vendor 
>attendance....................................
>
>Biff Jones 

From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net  Fri May  2 05:57:24 2008
From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:57:24 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix and plug gaps
Message-ID: <27882978.1209729444319.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I got this reply back from Pertronix:

"You may use the Lucas sports coil without using a ballast resistor and you may also increase the plug gap up to 0.010 above original specifications."

OK, so what is the benefit of increasing the gap?  

I came across a warning that the original ignition system may not be up to the increased voltage - would the weakness be in the Lucas distributor or in the rotor/plug wires/distributor cap?

I should probably leave the gap at 25 thou and worry about something else but I can't stop fiddling about.

Cheers

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May  2 06:25:02 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 07:25:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix and plug gaps
References: <27882978.1209729444319.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004e01c8ac4f$8c1c5500$0201a8c0@midget>

> OK, so what is the benefit of increasing the gap?
> I came across a warning that the original ignition system may not be up to 
> the increased voltage - would the weakness be in the Lucas distributor or 
> in the rotor/plug wires/distributor cap?

Adrian,
The larger the gap, the more voltage it takes to jump it and the hotter the 
spark. It does very little good to put in a "hot" coil and NOT widen the 
gap. OTOH, too wide of a gap encourages the spark to find alternate paths to 
ground... like through the distributor cap, less than perfect spark plug 
wire insulation, through the top of the rotor to the distributor shaft, etc. 
There have been a lot of less-than-perfect rotors out there, common problem.

You should be ok at 30 to 35, but don't push it any farther than that with a 
stock distributor and you might want to renew wires, cap, and rotor (with a 
good one, not the cheapest one you can find) before you do.
David Lieb 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri May  2 06:31:01 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:31:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix and plug gaps
Message-ID: <050220081231.1890.481B09850003685F000007622216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

FWIW I have been running a Crane XR700 electronic ignition without a ballast in my '79 Midget for many years without any attention whatsoever.   Totally satisfied with the switch.

--David C.
If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea...
does that mean that one enjoys it? 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Adrian Jones <adrianjones747 at earthlink.net>
> I got this reply back from Pertronix:
> 
> "You may use the Lucas sports coil without using a ballast resistor and you may 
> also increase the plug gap up to 0.010 above original specifications."
> 
> OK, so what is the benefit of increasing the gap?  
> 
> I came across a warning that the original ignition system may not be up to the 
> increased voltage - would the weakness be in the Lucas distributor or in the 
> rotor/plug wires/distributor cap?
> 
> I should probably leave the gap at 25 thou and worry about something else but I 
> can't stop fiddling about.
> 
> Cheers
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri May  2 06:38:58 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 12:38:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hanger
Message-ID: <050220081238.19884.481B0B62000D874A00004DAC2216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I think I agree with tinydog.  I have always heard that if you get into having to replace the spring hangers the car is too far gone to restore, unless you are willing to pour lots of moolah into the project.  Once you start restoring, it is common knowledge that the jobs that must be done balloon furiously.  Maybe start with one that isn't quite as needy.  Just my Confederate Dollar's worth!  8^)

--David C.
If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea...
does that mean that one enjoys it? 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: tinydog at snet.net
> "Any advice?"
> 
> 
>  
> tinydog sez:
> Yes. Cut your losses and buy another car. You just stepped onto the set of the 
> Spridget version of Halloween.
> 
> 
>  -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: 
> --------------
> 
> 
> > I have finally bowed to the inevitable and must deal with a spring hanger.  
> The 
> > guy who came to look at the repair wanted to replace the entire rear bulkhead 
> > assembly for $$$.  Pictures at 
> > 
> > http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh6/mdrowe_photo/Spring%20Hanger/  
> > 
> > show what is left of the oval access hole and the two torn-out captive nuts.  
> > The rusted out floor panel shown in the second picture has been patched from 
> the 
> > inside, so only needs cleaning and rewelding.  I really need advice on this 
> > repair.  Do I just cut out a big chunk to match the spring hanger box and weld 
> > it in?  Should I also get a spring hanger patch and floor patch to go with the 
> > hanger box.  All I really need for this area is enough strength to support the 
> > spring, which could be achieved with a big flat bar cut to shape and maybe 
> some 
> > reinforcing bar on the floor and bulkhead inside.  Not authentic, I agree, but 
> > to my inexperience appears much easier than cutting big holes.  Any advice?  
> Can 
> > any of the good dealers on this list provide advice with the patches?
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri May  2 06:47:42 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 05:47:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix and plug gaps
In-Reply-To: <050220081231.1890.481B09850003685F000007622216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <050220081231.1890.481B09850003685F000007622216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <957538747.20080502054742@pacifier.com>

Hello ,

          I too have a Crane 700... not the new ones that are NOT
          polarized, but one specifically for Positive Ground...
          (makes switching over to Negative Earth more expensive!!)

          i ran the plugs for a a couple of years at .025, then opened
          them up to .030. .. ..

          does this mean that i can open them up a little more? I have
          Bosch plug wires and a Pertronix Coil (3 ohm, as recommended
          for BOTH pertronix ignitions AND Crane units)

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Fat Wars: May the Sauce Be With You. 

From heard at datatrontech.net  Fri May  2 06:52:35 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 08:52:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <036801c8abfb$cf015090$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <C43FB36F.1760C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<036801c8abfb$cf015090$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <016d01c8ac53$652a4070$1801010a@xp>

Yep. I hear you Larry, but...a number of years ago I bought a radar
detector.  Not because I'm a big speeder, I usually drive about 75 on the
Interstates, but because I got a couple of what I call bullshit tickets.
That is..lazy cops in my neighborhood sitting under a shade tree on a long
straight road with no houses, no kids, nothing but woods all around, and the
speed limit is 30 mph.  You just can't drive that slow for very long.  The
limit should be about 40, but the cops really like that shade tree.  I'v
actually thought about chopping it down. 

Another BS ticket I got several years ago was because a construction crew
forgot to take down a 50 mph sign after the construction was long gone.
This was on a remote road in south Florida where again, the cops just took
advantage of the situation.  The rest of the road was 65 except for this one
little stretch where that sign was.  I may have been able to win this one in
court, but court was about 250 miles from home.

Of course, in Virginia, radar detectors are 'illegal', so you have to put it
on the floorboard.  I found it works just as well on the floor.


Heard Saxon



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:26 PM
To: Billy Zoom; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control

Hey, I hear you, Billy, but that's your choices.

If I could drive as fast as I wanted, I could either see more clients or
spend more time at home.  Either one would be preferable to driving like my 
grandmother.   I hate it, but that's the cards we are are dealt.

I just drove 470 miles round trip this week to see one client.  I could
easily have knocked a couple of hours off the trip if I drove at a speed
that isn't so boring as to make me sleepy.  Like Sammy, I can't drive 55,
either.

You make your choice and you pay the price, but it is your choice.

LAD




----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cruise control


> to not speed.
But they have ridiculous speed limits. If we drove the speed limit, we'd
only be able to play three or four shows a week. Plus, we're from
California...where average traffic moves at about 80mph without hassle.
BZ
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Fri May  2 07:03:07 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:03:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
Message-ID: <067601c8ac54$de23fd30$6401a8c0@universal1>

    All,

    Anyone with an intimate knowledge of all things "Sprite 5-speed" (Datsun
Tranny) please contact me off-list.

    Thanks,

                                                                        CB

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Fri May  2 07:21:30 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 9:21:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Attn: Peter C.
Message-ID: <21718452.1209734490637.JavaMail.root@wmvirt3>

4 shox, 1 box. On their way!

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May  2 07:44:49 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:44:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <02fc01c8abec$0a8ccb90$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F341E8B5370339D56108556B8DA0@phx.gbl>

Instead, you could sing "I fought the law and the law won ..." :)



----Original Message Follows----

An added bonus is that then you don't have to say something incredibly
stupid like, "I knew the law, I decided to break the law, it is somebody
else's fault that I got caught".

LAD

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May  2 09:48:51 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:48:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel cell questions...
Message-ID: <0C687001-B5A9-4FE9-A95E-5B5FD07682BE@comcast.net>

Ok racer types.. during the updating of my Formula S I noticed that  
the 17 year old fuel cell is caca.  It's a Fuel Safe type but a quick  
call to them and it's a "custom" fuel cell and likely close to $ 900  
bucks.  That sounds a little, umm, unreasonable.  At the time this was  
a standard economy fuel cell but no longer?

So..

Is that a reasonable cost?

Who else makes fuel cells, inexpensive fuel cells?

( this is the size for a formula car.. 5 gals)

Thanks all,

Lester

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri May  2 10:43:02 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 09:43:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
In-Reply-To: <067601c8ac54$de23fd30$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <067601c8ac54$de23fd30$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <481B4496.6060903@b2systems.com>

 Why OFF-LIST ??? we want to learn also !


Charley Braum wrote:
>     All,
>
>     Anyone with an intimate knowledge of all things "Sprite 5-speed" (Datsun
> Tranny) please contact me off-list.
>
>     Thanks,

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May  2 11:04:53 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 17:04:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
Message-ID: <BAY112-F376A335A9892A4DC31CC93B8DA0@phx.gbl>

Does the word "intimate" give you a clue?  :)

Or is that what you wanted to learn? ;)


From:  Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>

  Why OFF-LIST ??? we want to learn also !


Charley Braum wrote:
>     All,
>
>     Anyone with an intimate knowledge of all things "Sprite 5-speed" 
>(Datsun
>Tranny) please contact me off-list.
>
>     Thanks,

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri May  2 11:16:53 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:16:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
Message-ID: <000c01c8ac78$53acb6a0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Guys, I got the notice below from our club pres. but have no interest myself.
Its pretty close to me and I could check it out if anyone cares.
Probably good for a nice rear axle and diff, front discs, seats etc.

Glen

Free for anyone interested. I received a call last night from a Gentleman,he
has been helping a friend who is very ill clear his Ranch.

Rubber Bumper Midget
No Engine or Transmission
No Wheels

If you want to pick up it up contact:

Bruce Marr
6753 Main Prairie Road
Off Hwy 113

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri May  2 11:19:49 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:19:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8ac78$53acb6a0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <000c01c8ac78$53acb6a0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805021019y28e2d1a7y8ad3ca8f6b097dc@mail.gmail.com>

RBs= 3.9 or 3.7, eh?
Sure, send me the diff.
You didn't state in which state this deal is located.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri May  2 11:29:07 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:29:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
References: <000c01c8ac78$53acb6a0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<5f00d9910805021019y28e2d1a7y8ad3ca8f6b097dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801c8ac7a$094ba880$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

To clarify, I'll be happy to check it out but have no time or energy to go 
get it, drag it home, part it out and ship the bits.
Verify that it has good parts worth having....no problem.  At the moment I 
have all the parts I want or need, so my "desire to aquire" is a bit low 
right now.  I also have no place to store it and no trailer to load it.  I'm 
pretty sure the owner isn't interested in doing an in-situ part-out.

Its in northern California about 20 minutes from my house.

Glen



> RBs= 3.9 or 3.7, eh?
> Sure, send me the diff.
> You didn't state in which state this deal is located. 

From cmlove at knology.net  Fri May  2 11:31:57 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:31:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Economy Fuel Cells
Message-ID: <001801c8ac7a$6d99c240$6701a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>

Here is a site that has an 8 gal. for $79.95... No financial interest...just
FYI...

Shortcut to: http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/ecfuelcel.html


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From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri May  2 12:18:44 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:18:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F376A335A9892A4DC31CC93B8DA0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F376A335A9892A4DC31CC93B8DA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <481B5B04.10903@b2systems.com>

 To: Mr Robert SmartA** Duquette

  Thank you for making me laugh today, I needed it :)

    I did not pick up on the "intimate" part in the first e-mail but if 
you don't mind, I think I would rather not learn that.

    mike

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Does the word "intimate" give you a clue?  :)
>
> Or is that what you wanted to learn? ;)
>
>
> From:  Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
>
>   Why OFF-LIST ??? we want to learn also !
>
>
> Charley Braum wrote:
>   
>>     All,
>>
>>     Anyone with an intimate knowledge of all things "Sprite 5-speed" 
>> (Datsun
>> Tranny) please contact me off-list.
>>
>>     Thanks,

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri May  2 12:29:21 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 13:29:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
In-Reply-To: <481B5B04.10903@b2systems.com>
References: <BAY112-F376A335A9892A4DC31CC93B8DA0@phx.gbl>
	<481B5B04.10903@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <9D46F79E1D0B4275902D920A31D40F66@Home>

I plan to hug my never-installed Rivergate rebuilt and converted 5-speed 
when it arrives next week, and I am not ashamed of that.

Michael Rowe
74' Midget
Long Island, NY

>    I did not pick up on the "intimate" part in the first e-mail but if
> you don't mind, I think I would rather not learn that.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May  2 12:44:47 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 18:44:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
In-Reply-To: <9D46F79E1D0B4275902D920A31D40F66@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3434AC363931F5F1E4C0C7B8DA0@phx.gbl>

As long as you don't change the 'converted' to the 'perverted' ...

----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>

I plan to hug my never-installed Rivergate rebuilt and converted 5-speed
when it arrives next week, and I am not ashamed of that.

Michael Rowe
74' Midget
Long Island, NY

 >    I did not pick up on the "intimate" part in the first e-mail but if
 > you don't mind, I think I would rather not learn that.
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May  2 12:45:47 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 13:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
In-Reply-To: <481B5B04.10903@b2systems.com>
References: <BAY112-F376A335A9892A4DC31CC93B8DA0@phx.gbl>
	<481B5B04.10903@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805021145pe4252e1l151df25335572ed3@mail.gmail.com>

There is a GREAT story from Buster in Anaheim, about a homeless woman, a
smoothcase transmission, and the input shaft placement.
Check the archives....

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

>  To: Mr Robert SmartA** Duquette
>
>  Thank you for making me laugh today, I needed it :)
>
>    I did not pick up on the "intimate" part in the first e-mail but if
> you don't mind, I think I would rather not learn that.
>
>    mike
>
> Robert Duquette wrote:
> > Does the word "intimate" give you a clue?  :)
> >
> > Or is that what you wanted to learn? ;)
> >
> >
> > From:  Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
> >
> >   Why OFF-LIST ??? we want to learn also !
> >
> >
> > Charley Braum wrote:
> >
> >>     All,
> >>
> >>     Anyone with an intimate knowledge of all things "Sprite 5-speed"
> >> (Datsun
> >> Tranny) please contact me off-list.
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
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From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Fri May  2 17:26:23 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 19:26:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] door hinge screws
Message-ID: <50062.72.71.217.71.1209770783.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Could someone let me know the size and length of the screws used to attach
bugeye door hinges. I mean the ones that attach the hinge to the door (hex
heads don't fit through the access holes) and also the ones that attach
the hinge to the car at the A post. The doors and tub I'm working with are
from different cars and had no hinges. Now I have hinges and a place to
buy the bolts/screws if I knew the sizes.
Thanks
Dick Byrne

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri May  2 17:50:45 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:50:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control
In-Reply-To: <016d01c8ac53$652a4070$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <211441.21477.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:
> Yep. I hear you Larry, but...a number of years ago I
> bought a radar
> detector

In Brazil, the speed limit on the highway between
Campina and Gaviao Peixoto is 110 KPH. With about 1/8
mile (.25  km or so) warning it turns to 80 KPH with a
camera to politely take your picture and mail you a
ticket. THAT'S bullsh!t.

Obrigado,
Ron


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri May  2 17:56:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 16:56:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ac7a$094ba880$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <503200.20646.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> To clarify, I'll be happy to check it out but have
> no time or energy to go 
> get it, drag it home, part it out and ship the bits

Plus, last we heard derf sold his Spridget and kept
his Miata. If you're gonna go through the trouble, at
least send it to a Spridget owner.

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From duncan at pondhop.com  Fri May  2 18:26:49 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 19:26:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] door hinge screws
In-Reply-To: <50062.72.71.217.71.1209770783.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50062.72.71.217.71.1209770783.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <011101c8acb4$612e1580$238a4080$@com>

The hinge a post screws are 1/4 28 threads and I think about 3/4" long.
Originally pozidrive.
For inside the doors I used allen head socket cap screws to make things
easier. I think I used 3/4 long here also.

Thanks
Duncan

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From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
lindalnhvt at nhvt.net
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 6:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] door hinge screws

Could someone let me know the size and length of the screws used to attach
bugeye door hinges. I mean the ones that attach the hinge to the door (hex
heads don't fit through the access holes) and also the ones that attach
the hinge to the car at the A post. The doors and tub I'm working with are
from different cars and had no hinges. Now I have hinges and a place to
buy the bolts/screws if I knew the sizes.
Thanks
Dick Byrne
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May  2 19:58:00 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 21:58:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] door hinge screws
In-Reply-To: <50062.72.71.217.71.1209770783.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50062.72.71.217.71.1209770783.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <481BC6A8.40101@comcast.net>

All are 1/4 x 28 Phillips (I mean Posi) drive
Not sure on the exact length but 3/4" works, originals may have been 1/2 
or 5/8 long. they were short, too short to make working with them 
reasonable so use 3/4" long to make life easier.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  2 20:49:39 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 19:49:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat diaphragm...
Message-ID: <481B7053.22375.2C0ED4D@dmg.bossig.com>

I now know the answer to my earlier question...
The webbing style diaphragm is too small for the early seat frame... don't 
ask me how I know....

Also, please don't ask me to repeat the magic(?) words I used when I was 
trying to fit the hooks into the seat frame.

Anyhow, can anyone tell me what the large  hole in the diaphragm is/was 
for... and keep it clean <Grin>  It doesn't seem to have any purpose.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May  2 23:55:27 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 01:55:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
Message-ID: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>

I need  some advice to work out the tight steering issue with my 73 
midget. The car had sat for at least 5 years before I got it. Maybe 
more... I got a bunch of receipts with it, someone spent a lotta bucks 
on it.

Among the items were rebuilt kingpins, which clearly have been installed 
in the car. I have no idea who rebuilt them, but they look nice anyway...

With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the 
steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and 
refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It 
moves smoothly.

When driving, it still feels tight, and will not self-center. The wheel 
will just stay in a turn. A while ago, someone  mentioned that sometimes 
a washer or bushing is left out of the kingpins, and I should loosen up 
the kingpin nut to see if that helps.

I went to do that and found the kingput nuts were already loose. Way 
loose, actually. There's no way that they should be that loose.

I was also told to check/loosen the large nut on the rack, and also to 
check the shims. This I could use a little guidance with.

But it seems to me that if the steering is still tight with the kingpin 
nuts so loose, maybe it's not a kingpin problem. So I'm going to torque 
those nuts to spec (40 ft/lbs I think).

-- 

Marc

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat May  3 02:33:52 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:33:52 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <001201c8acf8$6bb6ad20$0d01a8c0@MAIN>

Marc,

The tightness of the kingpins should have nothing to do with how tight or
loose the nut on the top is.  There are shims in under the top trunnion that
set the clearance for the king pin. The nut is then put on tight - or to the
torque figure if you have one. It sounds like they have never been set up
properly since being replaced.

Your stiff steering could be due to misalignment between the steering rack
and the steering column.  The short splined stub of the pinion in the rack
needs to point exactly in line with the steering column.  If the rack has
been removed it could be rotated upwards or downwards by a few degrees
instead of pointing directly at the centre of the steering wheel.

To correct this, slacken the rack to bracket clamps and spin the steering
wheel loco to lock a few times before re-tightening them.

Another problem with the rack alignment could be with the positioning of the
shims between the rack clamps and the chassis rail.  Or the stiffness could
be in the column itself if it has got bent or if the bushes are not right.

Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Marc
Sent: 03 May 2008 06:55
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering

I need  some advice to work out the tight steering issue with my 73
midget. The car had sat for at least 5 years before I got it. Maybe
more... I got a bunch of receipts with it, someone spent a lotta bucks
on it.

Among the items were rebuilt kingpins, which clearly have been installed
in the car. I have no idea who rebuilt them, but they look nice anyway...

With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the
steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and
refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It
moves smoothly.

When driving, it still feels tight, and will not self-center. The wheel
will just stay in a turn. A while ago, someone  mentioned that sometimes
a washer or bushing is left out of the kingpins, and I should loosen up
the kingpin nut to see if that helps.

I went to do that and found the kingput nuts were already loose. Way
loose, actually. There's no way that they should be that loose.

I was also told to check/loosen the large nut on the rack, and also to
check the shims. This I could use a little guidance with.

But it seems to me that if the steering is still tight with the kingpin
nuts so loose, maybe it's not a kingpin problem. So I'm going to torque
those nuts to spec (40 ft/lbs I think).

--

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat May  3 07:14:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:14:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
References: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <007f01c8ad1f$a40f59c0$0201a8c0@midget>

> With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the
> steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and
> refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It
> moves smoothly.

Marc,
WHAT did you fill it with? The early Spridgets used the Morris Minor 
steering rack which used oil, but your 1973 has a Triumph rack which should 
be greased. The easy way to tell seems to be that if it has a grease 
fitting, it wants to be oiled, if it does NOT have a zerk, it somehow wants 
you to grease it.
David 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  3 07:51:08 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:51:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery dimensions
Message-ID: <e98d88090805030651i4c9baaebg9e8e4e73c382fae1@mail.gmail.com>

I have the battery retaining bar (an original style metal one, not a wooden
one) and the "J" bolt hold downs. My problem is, the "J" bolts are too
short. I ordered the longest that was offered, and my battery is damn near a
lawn tractor battery. Does anyone know the dimensions of the factory tar top
battery, so that should my battery be the same size or smaller, I know the
issue is with the supplied parts.

Thank you,
Brad

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From healeymonster at fastwave.biz  Sat May  3 10:06:05 2008
From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:06:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] spin-on oil filters
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10784.1209749251.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <02be01c8ad37$972fd500$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>

Anybody have any experience or opinions on these?


 http://tinyurl.com/4gjgts 


Ed Townley
Southern NM, USA
 

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May  3 10:14:58 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:14:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
In-Reply-To: <503200.20646.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <000801c8ac7a$094ba880$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<503200.20646.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805030914g6551a28cybd36de0bb77b52ec@mail.gmail.com>

Well, Derf's sister has 4 Spridgets, and Derf's best friend has a nice
66 Sprite.  Just because I chose the dark side for fun with superior
comfort and reliability, doesn't mean I can't lurk around and
participate in Spridget commerce.

>  Plus, last we heard derf sold his Spridget and kept
>  his Miata. If you're gonna go through the trouble, at
>  least send it to a Spridget owner.
>
>  Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May  3 10:42:22 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:42:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] spin-on oil filters
In-Reply-To: <02be01c8ad37$972fd500$6401a8c0@Edsoffice>
Message-ID: <323707.91201.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Ed Townley <healeymonster at fastwave.biz> wrote:

> Anybody have any experience or opinions on these?
>  http://tinyurl.com/4gjgts 

I'm not sure what question the guy is answering, but I
use Mobil 1 and K&N spin on filters on all my
Spridgets. They come in the correct thread without
adaptation. Without a remote setup, I'm not sure you
could get anything much larger than the correct size
in there. Mobil 1's go on sale for $5.99 locally all
the time, Farm and Fleet has K&Ns for $8.99
frequently.

Ron


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat May  3 10:49:11 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:49:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] spin-on oil filters
References: <323707.91201.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <009201c8ad3d$9d8fdac0$0201a8c0@midget>

>> Anybody have any experience or opinions on these?
>>  http://tinyurl.com/4gjgts 
> 
> I'm not sure what question the guy is answering, 

Isn't that the adapter that used to be included FREE with 1500 filters???

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Sat May  3 11:18:10 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 10:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hot Rod Midget Photo
Message-ID: <453275.8243.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Someone wanted to see a Hot Rod Midget.  Look at the beast at the link below!  I don't remember where I got the photo, so please forgive me for not giving proper credit to the photog.
   
  http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2828041880098798904YfDrsf

       
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From lincman90 at hotmail.com  Sat May  3 11:19:56 2008
From: lincman90 at hotmail.com (Tom Daughdrill)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:19:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery dimensions
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805030651i4c9baaebg9e8e4e73c382fae1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805030651i4c9baaebg9e8e4e73c382fae1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU146-W3FCBBE4915B788CD88C7EACD50@phx.gbl>

The problem I discovered is that I cannot find a battery with the terminals on
the center of the top of the battery.  With them being on one side, either the
firewall would short it or the metal holddown will.

Am I maybe not installing mine right?> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 08:51:08 -0500>
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net;
midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery
dimensions> > I have the battery retaining bar (an original style metal one,
not a wooden> one) and the "J" bolt hold downs. My problem is, the "J" bolts
are too> short. I ordered the longest that was offered, and my battery is damn
near a> lawn tractor battery. Does anyone know the dimensions of the factory
tar top> battery, so that should my battery be the same size or smaller, I
know the> issue is with the supplied parts.> > Thank you,> Brad> > -- > DON
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat May  3 13:04:10 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:04:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] spin-on oil filters
Message-ID: <dade01c8ad50$780c2570$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

Yep, looks like it.
 
-=Chris (a 1500 guy)

Chris King
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 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: 5/3/2008 12:49:11 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spin-on oil filters 

>> Anybody have any experience or opinions on these? 
>> http://tinyurl.com/4gjgts 
> 
> I'm not sure what question the guy is answering, 

Isn't that the adapter that used to be included FREE with 1500
filters??? 
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat May  3 13:07:13 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:07:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] is this thing on?
Message-ID: <dc2d01c8ad50$e56e7730$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

I know I don't post much, but my last couple of emails to spridgets I
haven't seen show up on the list. Have you all seen anything from me
lately, or is it just my email service?
 
-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sat May  3 13:12:48 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:12:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] is this thing on?
Message-ID: <14d9f01c8ad51$ad06f650$056a010a@mail2world.com>

ok, answered my own question. Please disregard, or make fun of me,
whatever you're in the mood for :)

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Chris King [cbking at alum.rpi.edu]
Sent: 5/3/2008 3:07:13 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] is this thing on? 

I know I don't post much, but my last couple of emails to spridgets I 
haven't seen show up on the list. Have you all seen anything from me 
lately, or is it just my email service? 

-=Chris 
Chris King 
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat May  3 13:15:58 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:15:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] is this thing on?
In-Reply-To: <dc2d01c8ad50$e56e7730$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <dc2d01c8ad50$e56e7730$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
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No we haven't heard hide nor hair from Chris King. I am not sure he is  
even on the list anymore


On May 3, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris King wrote:

> I know I don't post much, but my last couple of emails to spridgets I
> haven't seen show up on the list. Have you all seen anything from me
> lately, or is it just my email service?
>
> -=Chris
> Chris King
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From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sat May  3 13:36:39 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 12:36:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] is this thing on?
References: <dc2d01c8ad50$e56e7730$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
	<754FA4B1-FF32-4FEB-A416-FD98817B4E9F@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <001601c8ad55$02aee1a0$77056f47@DBKF4T81>

Didn't the poor so-and-so perish in that unfortunate email blight of Spring 
'08?

---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>

> No we haven't heard hide nor hair from Chris King. I am not sure he is
> even on the list anymore
>
>
> On May 3, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Chris King wrote:
>
>> I know I don't post much, but my last couple of emails to spridgets I
>> haven't seen show up on the list. Have you all seen anything from me
>> lately, or is it just my email service?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat May  3 14:04:54 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:04:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
References: <000801c8ac7a$094ba880$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><503200.20646.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<5f00d9910805030914g6551a28cybd36de0bb77b52ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02de01c8ad58$f57964c0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Does Derf's sister spell her name, Yram?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] free midget


Well, Derf's sister has 4 Spridgets, and Derf's best friend has a nice
66 Sprite.  Just because I chose the dark side for fun with superior
comfort and reliability, doesn't mean I can't lurk around and
participate in Spridget commerce.

>  Plus, last we heard derf sold his Spridget and kept
>  his Miata. If you're gonna go through the trouble, at
>  least send it to a Spridget owner.
>
>  Ron
_______________________________________________

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat May  3 14:53:06 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 16:53:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road Again - finally
Message-ID: <69cq7p$35tult@email.mtu.edu>

After a loooong restoration (Sprite last on the road in 1974), my 
wife and I took a short spin through the subdivision today (1/2 mile) 
with no plate, no fenders, no hood, and no bonnet. It started right 
up with the static settings I dialed in according to the "good 
books." I do have a sticky throttle so we more or less just idled 
around. It is amazing how well it runs with just the static settings. 
Good oil pressure and no leaks. I do need to get more air bubbles out 
of the clutch line or maybe adjust the linkage at there isn't much throw.

I did the tach conversion to negative earth. The tach seems to be way 
high of the real RPM's - measured by ear. Don't know what's going on 
there, but will check that out with my dwell tach soon. Not sure what 
the fix would be though. I did cut the white wire and swapped them 
around as per the instructions about this.

My wife likes the sound and the look of the Sprite.

While I was working on it I had it up on a dolly to get it up to a 
convenient height. Now that it is on the ground it really looks small.

I once tried to claim the longest restoration title, but other 
listers took exception to my claim to fame. 34 years. . . . wow. Need 
to do the drill on a tune up, add the exterior body work, some 
interior panels, touch up some paint dings and it should be ready to play with.

Great fun!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From JMFarley50 at aol.com  Sat May  3 15:08:13 2008
From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:08:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] On the Road Again - finally
Message-ID: <c18.34091e00.354e2e3d@aol.com>

Congratulations Tim.  Your work looks really  great!





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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat May  3 16:22:06 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 22:22:06 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite MKII 5 speed question
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV1097EF53D0549987B91417C8D50@phx.gbl>

Mike....

you certainly don't want to go through the trouble of permanently "installing" a "box" before you're sure you're "compatible".

I would not only hug it, I would spend at least one night with it before "marriage".

Removing an incompatible "box" after permanent intallation can be very expensive! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat May  3 16:50:12 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 22:50:12 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix and plug gaps
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3944503D5B8C4F7B4C882C8D50@phx.gbl>

Hi, big Bill....

Yeh....you can further open up the gaps but as you do, they'll require (pull) more from the coil to "bridge" the gap electrically. 

The coil and wires are no doubt up to it but most of today's modern rotors (usually mfg. in India....el cheapo)  are not and may develop a "hairline" crack due to "overcurrent" as you open up the gap beyond approx. .028 (ask me how I know!:).

To prevent the possiblility of the foregoing, order a "known quality" rotor or two from
Peter C. who carries only the good stuff.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  3 16:51:25 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:51:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake light switch
Message-ID: <e98d88090805031551g31c0b565o5ebb3b691d0660e5@mail.gmail.com>

While fixing some worn areas on the pedal box on the 68, the brake light
switch dropped a wire. What is the most common replacement? I am asking, as
all I have open now is going to be O'Reilly's and Autozone. I know those
drones won't be able to help, so I need to know before I go.

Thanks,
Brad

-- 
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May  3 18:14:11 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 17:14:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Free LJC SHELL
Message-ID: <930021.96988.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Save it from the crusher:

http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=9143

NFI, etc.

Ron


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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May  3 18:47:34 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 20:47:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery dimensions
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805030651i4c9baaebg9e8e4e73c382fae1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805030651i4c9baaebg9e8e4e73c382fae1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481D07A6.4030901@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> I have the battery retaining bar (an original style metal one, not a wooden
> one) and the "J" bolt hold downs. My problem is, the "J" bolts are too
> short. 
Yo, you got something against wooden battery hold downs?
They will never rust, corrode, or short out across the posts.
As for the J bolts, any chinese autoparts seller has them for a buck or 
2, they are too long, cut them down, throw away the  stamped wing nuts 
and get a pair 1/4 x 20 stainless wing nuts and you will be good to go.
As for the metal bar, you WILL replace that after the first time it 
shorts across the posts. Wood is good.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat May  3 19:09:36 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 18:09:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery dimensions
In-Reply-To: <481D07A6.4030901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <648002.40642.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brad,
   
  I used the wretch dip plastic coating on the bar. They had black and it looks good. It is not fool proof. But i figured it would at least help. I got the bolts for my battery at a local hardware store. They had SS. But i  got the regular ones and dipped the too. So no chrome look - but semi shinny black when wiped clean. 
   
  Vigil

Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
  Brad Fornal wrote:
> I have the battery retaining bar (an original style metal one, not a wooden
> one) and the "J" bolt hold downs. My problem is, the "J" bolts are too
> short. 
Yo, you got something against wooden battery hold downs?
They will never rust, corrode, or short out across the posts.
As for the J bolts, any chinese autoparts seller has them for a buck or 
2, they are too long, cut them down, throw away the stamped wing nuts 
and get a pair 1/4 x 20 stainless wing nuts and you will be good to go.
As for the metal bar, you WILL replace that after the first time it 
shorts across the posts. Wood is good.


-- 
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Toms River, NJ
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May  3 20:48:39 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 21:48:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Battery dimensions
In-Reply-To: <648002.40642.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <481D07A6.4030901@comcast.net>
	<648002.40642.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805031948w24538d4crcb5adaeedbe159f2@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all for your replies. I am not sure what course I will take quite
yet. I have been running without one for so long, I can go a little longer.
I have the battery up against the firewall, but I have a thick rubber mat
between the firewall and the battery.
I'll get it figured out, but first, I gotta find out why the clutch is not
working well. I have taken up all the slack on all the wallowed out bolts
and clevis pins. I'll do another bleed, as per Colin's instructions, and see
what that brings.

Brad

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 8:09 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> I used the wretch dip plastic coating on the bar. They had black and it
> looks good. It is not fool proof. But i figured it would at least help. I
> got the bolts for my battery at a local hardware store. They had SS. But i
> got the regular ones and dipped the too. So no chrome look - but semi shinny
> black when wiped clean.
>
> Vigil
>
>
> *Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>* wrote:
>
> Brad Fornal wrote:
> > I have the battery retaining bar (an original style metal one, not a
> wooden
> > one) and the "J" bolt hold downs. My problem is, the "J" bolts are too
> > short.
> Yo, you got something against wooden battery hold downs?
> They will never rust, corrode, or short out across the posts.
> As for the J bolts, any chinese autoparts seller has them for a buck or
> 2, they are too long, cut them down, throw away the stamped wing nuts
> and get a pair 1/4 x 20 stainless wing nuts and you will be good to go.
> As for the metal bar, you WILL replace that after the first time it
> shorts across the posts. Wood is good.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May  3 21:26:58 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 23:26:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805031551g31c0b565o5ebb3b691d0660e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805031551g31c0b565o5ebb3b691d0660e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481D2D02.60200@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> While fixing some worn areas on the pedal box on the 68, the brake light
> switch dropped a wire. What is the most common replacement?
Soldering gun


-- 
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Toms River, NJ

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun May  4 08:28:20 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 07:28:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] New (to me, at least) online resource
Message-ID: <17869728.1209911301166.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Readers,

Do The Monster Mash

I just found out about a website that will be a real boon to car enthusiasts, while at my friend Brett, who is planing to put new Corvette running gear in his Merkur coupe, he asked me if I had seen:

www.jaxed.com

It was put together by a Corvair guy and it searches many of the online resources for cars and parts and gives you a list of what is availabe on all lists - Amazing!!!  You also can narrow it down by state. Check it out!

Get on the sight - and click on the big MASH bar up by the top ......... then your in - have fun

Best,

Rick Feibusch
Venice Beach, Californis

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun May  4 13:07:29 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 14:07:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
Message-ID: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.com>

Do you get the scuttle seal in?? The one that is where the bonnet meets the
scuttle, in front of the windscreen.
I had to cut off about 4", because it was that much longer than my original.
Now, even after lubing it up with KY, it WILL NOT go in. Since I have cut
it, I can't return it (what a fucking crock of shit), so I am looking for
magic ways to get it to fit.

Thanks,
Brad

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May  4 13:13:16 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 13:13:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] free midget
In-Reply-To: <02de01c8ad58$f57964c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <000801c8ac7a$094ba880$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<503200.20646.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<5f00d9910805030914g6551a28cybd36de0bb77b52ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<02de01c8ad58$f57964c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805041213n27ad1ffav74e85412393a0f1@mail.gmail.com>

No, that would be Atram.

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sun May  4 14:40:34 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 13:40:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A wonderful Springtime / Spritetime weekend in the Pac
	NW
Message-ID: <001601c8ae27$1ad03770$811c6f47@DBKF4T81>

Nope, neither the BE nor the Minor moved an inch; they've been up on
jackstands for quite some time now. And I've been "up on jackstands" for the
past few weeks myself, spending most of my time sitting around the house or
sitting around my office at school or sitting in the waiting room at some sort
of medical office.

Things changed quite a bit toward the end of the week. First, the weather here
today is nothing short of stupendous ... the type that the tourism industry
lusts after.  Talk about changing your mood for the better.

Second, the medics have dialed in a better treatment plan that allows for much
more mobility. Granted, this means that I am now taking legally substances
that my peers used to seek illegally back in the 60's and 70's, but who's to
argue ... I can move!

Third, I decided HAD to get out of the house and take a drive somewhere,
anywhere. And as blind dumb luck would have it, I took a glance at some ads
before heading out the door. Turns out there was a guy up north of town that
had a Datsun 5-speed for sale. The ad said he wanted $150 for it. So, I headed
up that way, without calling in advance because I wanted to get out of the
house anyway, and found out the transmission actually existed and even came
complete with all the levers and forks. Started talking to the gentleman,
trying not to appear over-eager or anything, and found out it came out of a
running, drivable, but very raggedy car. There's a little play in the input
shaft, but other than that it looks like a decent tranny.

Eventually the guy says, "so how about we call it $125?" To which I replied in
a funny, high-pitched, semi-strangled voice that would usually  indicate that
the underwear was bunched up waaaaay too tight (which it wasn't), "okay".

Drove back home along the scenic river route with the transmission on board
and a smile on my face.

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sun May  4 14:39:40 2008
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 16:39:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080504163914.048f4c40@littlebitcountry.com>

It takes two people to install it. Find the center of both then mark 
it, then have a person on either end of the rubber and pull apart and 
set it in the groove and each slackens their pull a little till the 
rubber sits in there nice and tight. Brain surgery at it's finest........

Dave


At 03:07 PM 5/4/2008, you wrote:
>Do you get the scuttle seal in?? The one that is where the bonnet meets the
>scuttle, in front of the windscreen.
>I had to cut off about 4", because it was that much longer than my original.
>Now, even after lubing it up with KY, it WILL NOT go in. Since I have cut
>it, I can't return it (what a fucking crock of shit), so I am looking for
>magic ways to get it to fit.
>
>Thanks,
>Brad

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun May  4 14:46:03 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 16:46:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080504163914.048f4c40@littlebitcountry.com>
References: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080504163914.048f4c40@littlebitcountry.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP07CE168BB65C4CC16138B6B8D40@CEZ.ICE>

What is it that you're describing here:  :)



It takes two people to install it. Find the center of both then mark 
it, then have a person on either end of the rubber and pull apart and 
set it in the groove and each slackens their pull a little till the 
rubber sits in there nice and tight. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May  4 15:27:18 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 17:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805041207i106a719ah15f46b9a7bfa3119@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481E2A36.9060801@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> Do you get the scuttle seal in?? 

First of all, they are only for the Bugeye, Square bodys never had them.
And if you got it from mess motors, throw it out anyway.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From max at maxengland.com  Sun May  4 15:42:05 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 23:42:05 +0200
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com>
References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <481E2DAD.4040405@maxengland.com>

Hello all. Thanks for all your answers. Sorry for late reply, i didn't 
have the possibility to try and start up my car until today. Now I know 
I still have the same problem: when i turn the key to
start the engine the starter motor turns but the engine doesnt spark up. 
It's only when I release the key that it does fire up. Here are a few 
more details:

- My electrical system is from a GAN 5. Probably changed by the previous 
owner (or even the one before), as my car is a 1968 GAN 4
- I didn't have that problem when i first bought the car.
- I didn't replace any electrical parts. But I had a few other problems 
with the lights, horn, gauges and fuel pump etc.., so I had to check the 
electrical system and probably did something wrong.
- I don't know if I have a ballasted ignition (how can I make the 
distinction?). But i did not have the problem before and haven't changed 
the solenoid or coil since.
- My starter solenoid has 4 posts and was apparently replaced by the 
previous owner.
- 2 of the posts are used. Two are unused.
- On my second midget (GAN 5), the starter solenoid is the same one, but 
there are three wires to it, instead of two. Should I have a third wire 
connected to it? I don't have the electrical diagram with me.
- Current passes freely between engine and negative battery post.
- Don't have a pertronix ignition

Thanks for your ideas!

Max (1968 Midget)
www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget





Peter C a icrit :
> Well, IF your car had a ballasted ignition system, that would be a 
> symptom of a bad ballast resistor. You would not have a ballast 
> resistor as original equipment on a 68. (a 78 does, however)
>
> Another possibility is if the starter solenoid has been changed 
> recently, and mistakenly, to the 4 post variety (as used on post 74 
> models with ballasted ignition, then you would experience the same thing.
>
> Has any work been done recently on the car that you think might be 
> unrelated?
>
> Peter C.
> ===============
> At 10:27 AM 4/25/2008, Maxime Slegers wrote:
>> Hello everyone!
>>
>> I have a start up problem with my 1968 midget. when i turn the key to
>> start the engine the starter motor turns but the engine doesnt spark up.
>> It's only when I release the key that it does fire up. It's as though 
>> the
>> plugs only made a spark at the exact moment when I release the key. It's
>> not such a big issue as i always end up managing to fire up the engine,
>> but i have to rate if i've held the key long enough before releasing it.
>>
>> Anybody had that problem before or has an idea where it could come from?
>>
>> Thanks a lot guys!
>>
>> Max

From RampantNM at aol.com  Sun May  4 15:57:37 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:57:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hanger
Message-ID: <d35.26496ee2.354f8b51@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/2/2008 11:29:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Yes. Cut  your losses and buy another car. You just stepped onto the set of 
the 
>  Spridget version of Halloween.
> 


Just borrow a pick up and drive down to Comfort, TX and pick up the 3/4  
bugeye tub I have sitting there...Pay me someday if you can, whatever you think  
it was worth.  Graft it on the back end of your tub, buy a bugeye bonnet  and 
have a BE with roll up windows....

 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for experienced 
hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected and 
adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.



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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun May  4 16:05:59 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 17:05:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem
References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com>
	<481E2DAD.4040405@maxengland.com>
Message-ID: <013a01c8ae33$09303ae0$0201a8c0@midget>

Max,
Find an attractive assistant and try a few more tests. Connect a voltmeter 
from the + side of the coil to ground (NOT the - side of the coil). You 
should see 12vdc when the ignition is on. Have your AA crank the engine over 
and see whether the voltage at the coil drops. If it does, let us know and 
we can give you more things to check.

Your car does NOT (or should not) have a ballast resistor. Only the 
1978-1979 Midgets should have ballast resistors. Either solenoid will work 
fine for you.
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May  4 16:28:53 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 15:28:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
Message-ID: <467718972.20080504152853@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

         i don't see in the "book" any listing for how tight to get
         the U-Bolts that hold the axle to the springs (on any model,
         but mine is a half eleptical '66)

         i used to have torque steer, that is when i got on or off the
         accelerator the car would change direction slightly. i
         tightened up said bolts and that effect went away, but now
         i'm curious.... how tight SHOULD they be?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  All that glitters has a high refractive index. 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May  4 17:42:00 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 16:42:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help!!!  Dumb question of the day...
Message-ID: <481DE758.2589.1F81FAA@dmg.bossig.com>

So I'm looking at the thermostat bolts that go into the 1275cc head...
I bought the S?S 5/16 x 18 bolts, washers and one nut (just to check).
The nut will not go onto the studs that are in the head... a few turns max 
and then the nut jams...
It feels like the threads are wrong...
Here's the dumb question...

Are the studs different size threads on each end??
Or do I need a 5/16 x 20??

TIA...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun May  4 18:03:46 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 00:03:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Modern radio installation revised
Message-ID: <050520080003.20300.481E4EE2000D418200004F4C2216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

So I figured out how to really sneekely get a radio in the midget (i think someone here gave me the idea)  I mounted a new stereo from the bottom of the glovebox after making a new bottom for the glove box out of 3/8 luan that i cut to size.  The only protriusion into the glove box is the 5 bolts coming up from the harness.  I then put in new speakers.  The best part is that NOBODY can see the installation unless they are standing on their head in the passenger seat.  And best of all there is a small remote that controls everything and it fits into the ashtray. SWEEET!  all you can see is the stock 1974 AM radio.

My only issue is with the wiring of the continuos 12v feed.  Since the car never had one is there another wire that i can tap into other than running straight from the battery with a 2 amp in line fuse?
as it stands right now i cant store any presets or balance settings because everytime i turn off the car I lose it all.  But still not bad for an afternoons worth of fabrication and installation.

thanks
ryan

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May  4 18:43:55 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 17:43:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help!!!  Dumb question of the day...
In-Reply-To: <015401c8ae41$ecf3b140$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <481DE758.2589.1F81FAA@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<015401c8ae41$ecf3b140$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <481DF5DB.27592.230D0AA@dmg.bossig.com>

Thanks to everyone who answered...
Including the hints and tips..
Everyday I learn something new... Ain't life grand <GRIN>

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Sun May  4 18:46:07 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 20:46:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Battery Hold Down Brackets
Message-ID: <4.1.20080504204419.026e1cf0@mail.bellsouth.net>

I think it best to overkill the battery tie-down solution because of weight
and criticality issues. What I have done on my '67 vintage race Midget has
also been applied to my '72 street Midget.

A piece of 1/2"x1/2" steel angle iron across the front edge of the battery,
attached with "J" bolts to the standard tie-down points keeps this heavy
missile tied both down and back. Why use wood for such a critical
application? Is it because Frank is a carpenter and wood oriented? Small
angle iron is available from your local (heaven save me) Home Depot. 

Because the clutch and brake lines run behind the battery along the fire
wall, I space the battery away from the sheet metal and lines with a nice
piece of 1"x2" wood, as long as the width of the battery, attached through
the fire wall with light, countersunk bolts. In accordance with race
requirements, the hot terminal is covered with a red plastic boot, even
though the bracket does not come near it. 

I also don't use wing nuts, but rather double hex nuts. How often do you
remove the battery that you need removal capability by hand rather than two
combo wrenches?
A plastic tray sits under the battery to catch the occasional overflow and
prevent acid from eating the critical battery tray. Three of my six parts
cars have no battery tray because of acid leaks. Two have had battery fires
that destroyed most of the engine compartments. The damage may have come
from improperly attached batteries or batteries that were not tied down at all.

I have an article I wrote under the nom de plume MotorMouth/south that was
published in Victory 
Lane Magazine and MG Vintage Racers Newsletter a few years ago that details
all the considerations and options for battery tie-down that I can send or
posted if anybody is interested.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May  4 19:11:03 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 21:11:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
In-Reply-To: <467718972.20080504152853@pacifier.com>
References: <467718972.20080504152853@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <481E5EA7.2060501@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
>  how tight SHOULD they be?
>
>   
As tight as you can get them before you snap the U bolts.
Check and tighten them again after a few miles.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May  4 19:12:43 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 18:12:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
In-Reply-To: <481E5EA7.2060501@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> As tight as you can get them before you snap the U bolts.
So then...tighten until they break, and then back off about 1/4 turn?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May  4 19:15:01 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 21:15:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Modern radio installation revised
In-Reply-To: <050520080003.20300.481E4EE2000D418200004F4C2216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <050520080003.20300.481E4EE2000D418200004F4C2216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <481E5F95.5080806@comcast.net>

Ryan, there is a brown wire that runs to the cigarette lighter, it may 
be purple on the later cars, they are always hot.
Or you can run a wire to the fuse box, there are spare spade connectors 
on it. Go to the fuse where the brown wire comes in on the left side 
(looking at it) and plug into the right side, That will fuse the radio 
memory.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May  4 19:17:04 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:17:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
In-Reply-To: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <481E5EA7.2060501@comcast.net>
	<C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805041817y4afdaf9cn1b7f75e3495ecf6a@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like the way I've been known to do things....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim - From a motel in Greenville, MS.. Went to John Hurt's grave today -
tomorrow the Highway 61 Blues museum and then up US61 visiting graves of
blues legends....

On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > As tight as you can get them before you snap the U bolts.
> So then...tighten until they break, and then back off about 1/4 turn?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May  4 19:22:52 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 21:22:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Battery Hold Down Brackets
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20080504204419.026e1cf0@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <4.1.20080504204419.026e1cf0@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <481E616C.3090001@comcast.net>

Bob Spruck wrote:
>  Why use wood for such a critical
> application? Is it because Frank is a carpenter and wood oriented? 
Well yeah, and wood is all over my house and garage.
But I switched to wood after my battery shorted out across the terminals 
and the metal hold down many years ago.
Talk about letting the smoke out! And the arcing was down right 
beautiful but scary. Melted posts and a welded hold down and I have been 
using wood ever since.
Cedar is nice, it holds any oil that should get on it.
Oak looks nice too but turns black when it gets wet, I have a piece of 
cherry on the 58, pecan on the 67, cedar on the 59.
BABE car had oak, PIECES had cedar too.
I can see where the angle iron across the lip of the battery would be a 
good idea but use US steel, not home cheapo chinese metal. ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun May  4 19:23:59 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 21:23:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
In-Reply-To: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <481E61AF.7030000@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
>> As tight as you can get them before you snap the U bolts.
>>     
> So then...tighten until they break, and then back off about 1/4 turn?
>
>
>   
If they break, they needed to be replaced.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May  4 19:53:49 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 18:53:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
In-Reply-To: <481E61AF.7030000@comcast.net>
References: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<481E61AF.7030000@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <355524282.20080504185349@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     So, since they are 3/8 bolts.. that's one grunt tight with a
     standard length 9/16 wrench.
     1/2" would be three grunts.

     THANX

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 Marriage is one of the chief causes of divorce. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun May  4 19:58:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 20:58:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle U-Bolts?
References: <C443AD1B.1774A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><481E61AF.7030000@comcast.net>
	<355524282.20080504185349@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <018101c8ae53$74c33d50$0201a8c0@midget>

>     So, since they are 3/8 bolts.. that's one grunt tight with a
>     standard length 9/16 wrench.
>     1/2" would be three grunts.

Or, as a retired United mechanic once told me, "one white knuckle, two white 
knuckle, three white knuckle..." 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May  4 20:44:18 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Belt tensioner / idler
Message-ID: <541348.31223.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Has anyone added a belt tensioner to an A-Series water
pump / alternator-generator belt setup? Details,
photos, source or hardware?

Ron


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From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sun May  4 20:46:26 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 19:46:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The one that got away
Message-ID: <008801c8ae5a$36e228a0$811c6f47@DBKF4T81>

So, I told you about the 5-speed acquisition and the drove back home along the
scenic river route with the new transmission, a smile on my face and a song in
my heart.

Irony of ironies, on the way home I drove through a small town at just about
the same time that one of its citizens was composing a Craigslist ad for ...
you guessed it ... some Datsun 210 parts that included a 5-speed.

By the time I saw the ad and got through to him on his cell phone the tranny
was gone.

Oh, well ... share the wealth. I'm still a camping hamper.

Pete

From smarc at smarc.net  Sun May  4 21:25:55 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 23:25:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <007f01c8ad1f$a40f59c0$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>
	<007f01c8ad1f$a40f59c0$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <481E7E43.9030501@smarc.net>

   The  rack  has no zerk that I can find... I filled it with gear oil...
   If  this  is  definitely  wrong,  I suppose it can be corrected... How
   would you grease the rack?
   Anyway,  turning  my attention back to the kingpins, tightening up the
   nuts really stiffens them up quite a bit, enough to nearly lock up the
   steering,  so  perhaps  they weren't done properly. I've purchased and
   installed  rebuilt  kingpins  in  an  MGB, maybe now is a good time to
   learn  how  to  rebuild  my  own  spridget  kingpins. Our club has the
   kingpin reamer....
   Instead  of castellated nuts with a cotter pin, the kingpin only has a
   nyloc nut, which makes me a little uncomfortable...
   So I'm thinking I'll pull the kingpins, tear them down, and see what I
   can  see... Maybe they weren't properly assembled and/or reamed as has
   been suggested.
   On  the  MGB,  I simply used a floor jack to compress the spring under
   the  weight  of  the  car. Is this method viable on the Midget? Better
   way? Possible to get a spring compressor in there?
   Where can I source the proper castellated nuts?
   Any  advice  on  the  kingpin  removal  /  assembly  /  setup  process
   gratefully received!
Marc

   David Lieb wrote:

With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the
steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and
refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It
moves smoothly.

Marc,
WHAT did you fill it with? The early Spridgets used the Morris Minor
steering rack which used oil, but your 1973 has a Triumph rack which should
be greased. The easy way to tell seems to be that if it has a grease
fitting, it wants to be oiled, if it does NOT have a zerk, it somehow wants
you to grease it.
David

From max at maxengland.com  Mon May  5 01:27:32 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:27:32 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem
In-Reply-To: <013a01c8ae33$09303ae0$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com>
	<481E2DAD.4040405@maxengland.com>
	<013a01c8ae33$09303ae0$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <61272.212.166.46.72.1209972452.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Thanks David, I'll have a look tonight and will keep you informed.

Max


> Max,
> Find an attractive assistant and try a few more tests. Connect a voltmeter
> from the + side of the coil to ground (NOT the - side of the coil). You
> should see 12vdc when the ignition is on. Have your AA crank the engine
> over
> and see whether the voltage at the coil drops. If it does, let us know and
> we can give you more things to check.
>
> Your car does NOT (or should not) have a ballast resistor. Only the
> 1978-1979 Midgets should have ballast resistors. Either solenoid will work
> fine for you.
> David Lieb

From fredpixley at sympatico.ca  Mon May  5 04:49:56 2008
From: fredpixley at sympatico.ca (Frederick  Pixley)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 06:49:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets]  Battery Hold Down Brackets
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP157198FCEFD971010A6352B5D70@CEZ.ICE>

 Bob Spruck wrote:

the hot terminal is covered with a red plastic boot, even
though the bracket does not come near it.

Where can one buy the red plastic terminal boot?  I'm in need of one for my
mini.  Anything metal in the boot can short the terminals with resulting
smoke.

Fred Pixley
Napanee, Ontario

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 06:26:57 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 05:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The MOSS Part is Crap, order from McGregor
Message-ID: <26847.11971.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brad,
   
  The MOSS Part is the wrong shape for the scuttle. Call Ian at this link.
   
  http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Sprite-mk1-bonnet
   
  Great guy to talk to on the phone. He's got a bonnet seal coming for me. BTW, a '68 does not use a bonnet seal but I've been told scuttle shape is exactly the same. Got one ordered for my Bugeye Bonnet. 


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
Cincinnati, OH
       
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Mon May  5 07:40:11 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:40:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
Message-ID: <050520081340.1347.481F0E3B000110C7000005432215586394C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I think rubbers now come in Extra Large sizes so you don't have to do all that pulling apart with two people. . .! 
 (I never buy them so I am going just on what I hear.)      8^)

--David C.
If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea...
does that mean that one enjoys it? 

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> What is it that you're describing here:  :)
> 
> 
> 
> It takes two people to install it. Find the center of both then mark 
> it, then have a person on either end of the rubber and pull apart and 
> set it in the groove and each slackens their pull a little till the 
> rubber sits in there nice and tight. 
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From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 08:11:42 2008
From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 07:11:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Throttle Linkage DCOE
Message-ID: <602418.77653.qm@web36407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone out there have a good setup for  a throttle linkage for a 45DCOE? Any
sources for same?
Thanks in advance.
 
Roger Cotting
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May  5 08:54:10 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:54:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <050520081340.1347.481F0E3B000110C7000005432215586394C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <050520081340.1347.481F0E3B000110C7000005432215586394C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
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On 5/5/08, dlancer7676 at comcast.net <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I think rubbers now come in Extra Large sizes so you don't have to do all that pulling apart with two people. . .!
>   (I never buy them so I am going just on what I hear.)      8^)
>
>  --David C.

They do indeed but a Vasectomy works better.

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 12:22:24 2008
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 11:22:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805050754t534c5c3egb8b7c7b47473948@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <544360.64565.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If'n the fellow had a vasectomy and the woman has had a hysterectomy, is that like shooting blanks into a hollow tree?????


> > I think rubbers now come in Extra Large sizes so you
> don't have to do all that pulling apart with two
> people. . .!
> >   (I never buy them so I am going just on what I
> hear.)      8^)
> >
> >  --David C.
> 
> They do indeed but a Vasectomy works better.



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From smarc at smarc.net  Mon May  5 12:49:18 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 14:49:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ae80$027be4e0$0d01a8c0@MAIN>
References: <000801c8ae80$027be4e0$0d01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <481F56AE.20207@smarc.net>

Ok, I pulled the top trunnion off, and I don't see any shims at all. I 
presume the shims are washers of varying thickness? I have searched, but 
can't find a source for the shims...

Any tips on where I could score two sets?

Marc



Guy Weller wrote:
> Marc,
> Already replied to that one!
>
> The tightness of the kingpins should have nothing to do with how tight or
> loose the nut on the top is.  There are shims in under the top trunnion that
> set the clearance for the king pin. The nut is then put on tight - or to the
> torque figure if you have one. It sounds like they have never been set up
> properly since being replaced.
>
> Put the car up on axle stands. Then put a jack under the wishbone and just
> raise it a little to slightly compress the spring. Undo the single nut on
> the kingpin. Raise the top lever arm so that the trunnion comes free of the
> top of the kingpin. You may need to lower the jack slowly, just a little.
>
> There is a large phosphor-bronze washer which takes the load, but the end
> float (vertical movement) is adjusted by small shims on the top shoulder of
> the king pin itself.  More shims gives more end float. Add shims if it is
> tight; remove shims if there is too much slack. Should aim for no more than
> 0.002" to 0.003".  Check that the hub will turn through its full movement,
> lock to lock, without binding.
>
> Guy

From max at maxengland.com  Mon May  5 12:53:06 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 20:53:06 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem
Message-ID: <58607.81.244.92.135.1210013586.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Hi!

As you said David, when the ignition is on I have 12vdc between - post of
battery and + side of the coil. When i turn the key the voltage drops
significantly.

Another element that might be important: with the ignition on, when i
connect the two hotspots of the solenoid with a screwdriver, the engine
fires up normally.

Thanks for your help!

Max



Thanks David, I'll have a look tonight and will keep you informed. Max


>Max,> Find an attractive assistant and try a few more tests. Connect a
voltmeter> from the + side of the coil to ground (NOT the - side of the
coil). You> should see 12vdc when the ignition is on. Have your AA crank
the engine> over> and see whether the voltage at the coil drops. If it
does, let us know and> we can give you more things to check.>> Your car
does NOT (or should not) have a ballast resistor. Only the> 1978-1979
Midgets should have ballast resistors. Either solenoid will work> fine
for you.> David Lieb>>

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon May  5 13:14:20 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 12:14:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem
In-Reply-To: <58607.81.244.92.135.1210013586.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>
Message-ID: <C444AA9C.1777F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Pretend you have a ballast resistor, and use a solenoid that has terminals
to bypass it. I had to do this with my Ranchero to get the Pertronix to
work.  You're getting too much voltage drop somewhere in the wiring.
The other solution is to improve all of the wiring and connectors that can
drop the voltage to the coil while the starter's cranking. Rewiring the
solenoid was easy and it worked, but then the Ranchero is just an old Ford I
use for work, so I'm not emotionally involved.
It certainly wouldn't hurt to run bigger wires to the ignition switch and
back to the coil, solder all of the connectors, and squirt some WD40 into
the switch.
BZ

From markwemple at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 13:40:42 2008
From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 12:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rib case tanny align
Message-ID: <661106.55945.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Due to my ribcase overshifting into 1st, I am having to shim that gear to prevent it in the future. Pulled everything apart and didn't loose anything (so far). Anyway, I know That I will have tio check for alignment of all the shafts so that it will go into all gears and stay there. Any ideas on how to do this?

Mark




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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May  5 13:50:51 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:50:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HOW THE HELL...
In-Reply-To: <544360.64565.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <5f00d9910805050754t534c5c3egb8b7c7b47473948@mail.gmail.com>
	<544360.64565.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805051250k906b971l385aa8d4f24fecc9@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, but shooting blanks is just as much fun as shooting live ammo.
I dunno about the hollow tree part.


On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> If'n the fellow had a vasectomy and the woman has had a hysterectomy, is that like shooting blanks into a hollow tree?????

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May  5 14:24:52 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:24:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] re-ribcase tranny alignment
Message-ID: <000801c8aeee$15ec3430$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Pull the side cover and before you take the trans apart, operate the 1/2
shift and watch the shift fork operate.  You'll see that the slider gear
comes all the way to the back of the box when it jams (which is caused by
the three balls trying to pop out past the front edge of the 1/2 synchro
slider.)  Now picture a large washer that slides onto the 1/2 shift shaft
between the slider and the back of the box.  It will limit the rearward
travel of the slide by the thickness of the washer.  No more jamming.

On my A35, it jams a bit less than the usual amount and I found that I can
do a "1-2-3" pulll-pull-pull harder and un-jam it every time on the fly.
You might try the same.  I think the thought of coasting to a stop on the
freeway onramp pissed me off enough to pull hard enough to do the job.  Once
I learned it was possible, I never got around to adding the washer.  But my
earlier sprite ribcase sure benefitted from it.

Glen Byrns

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May  5 14:39:16 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:39:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] re-ribcase tranny alignment
References: <000801c8aeee$15ec3430$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <000401c8aef0$18ed5450$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Sorry,

Mis-wrote that, the washer goes on the 1/2 shifter shaft behind the fork so 
that it prevents the 1/2 fork from touching the back of the box when the 
shifter is pulled all the way to the back.  Clear?

Glen



> Pull the side cover and before you take the trans apart, operate the 1/2
> shift and watch the shift fork operate.  You'll see that the slider gear
> comes all the way to the back of the box when it jams (which is caused by
> the three balls trying to pop out past the front edge of the 1/2 synchro
> slider.)  Now picture a large washer that slides onto the 1/2 shift shaft
> between the slider and the back of the box.  It will limit the rearward
> travel of the slide by the thickness of the washer.  No more jamming.

From markwemple at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 14:58:40 2008
From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
Message-ID: <210226.41308.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Spoke too soon. In the process of pulling things apart, all the springs and balls came out. I found 3 springs but only 2 balls. Will need to purchase another ball beaing. 

Worst part is that i do not know how to get all 3 in place at the same time!!!

Mark


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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May  5 15:30:04 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
References: <210226.41308.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000801c8aef7$37bce2e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

OOOO!!! Teacher teacher... pick me!  I know that one!

Use a LARGE zip tie to reatin all three (best tried inside a deep cardboard 
box to catch wayward balls).  As your three hands and 17 fingers get all the 
springs and balls in place but not compressed, the zip tie is slid over them 
and tightened all the way.  As you advance the synchro slider over the 
assembly, push it up until it butts up to the zip tie.  While you continue 
to push it against the zip tie, you can use a screwdriver tip to push each 
ball in turn the extra tiny bit needed to allow the slider to cover them.

That third ball is in there somewhere, don't button it up till you find it.

Glen Byrns


> Spoke too soon. In the process of pulling things apart, all the springs 
> and balls came out. I found 3 springs but only 2 balls. Will need to 
> purchase another ball beaing.
>
> Worst part is that i do not know how to get all 3 in place at the same 
> time!!!
>
> Mark

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May  5 15:41:22 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:41:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
In-Reply-To: <000801c8aef7$37bce2e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <210226.41308.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<000801c8aef7$37bce2e0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <481F7F02.5080407@comcast.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:
> OOOO!!! Teacher teacher... pick me!  I know that one!
>
>   

Me too!!!
I use a hose clamp instead of a zip tie.
set all the springs and balls then punch down on the top to set them all 
in place.
Do this on a large white sheet just incase the balls go flying.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From markwemple at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 15:42:32 2008
From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
In-Reply-To: <481F7F02.5080407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <120217.88683.qm@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

FYI everything is still in the tranny but for the 1st gear fork and the arm it clamps to. The full gearset is in place and, unless it is easy to remove, I'd rather not go there.

Mark

--- On Mon, 5/5/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] tranny
> To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> Cc: markwemple at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, May 5, 2008, 5:41 PM
> Glen Byrns wrote:
> > OOOO!!! Teacher teacher... pick me!  I know that one!
> >
> >   
> 
> Me too!!!
> I use a hose clamp instead of a zip tie.
> set all the springs and balls then punch down on the top to
> set them all 
> in place.
> Do this on a large white sheet just incase the balls go
> flying.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ


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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon May  5 16:29:09 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 15:29:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] re-ribcase tranny alignment
In-Reply-To: <000801c8aeee$15ec3430$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <C444D845.17796%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I had the same problem on my '53 Ford truck. I used a piece of an aluminum
sign as a shim. It was still working 21 years later when I sold the truck.

> You'll see that the slider gear
> comes all the way to the back of the box when it jams (which is caused by
> the three balls trying to pop out past the front edge of the 1/2 synchro
> slider.)  Now picture a large washer that slides onto the 1/2 shift shaft
> between the slider and the back of the box.  It will limit the rearward
> travel of the slide by the thickness of the washer.  No more jamming.

From markwemple at yahoo.com  Mon May  5 16:53:18 2008
From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 15:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny - further
Message-ID: <571366.97300.qm@web30401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Alright so now I am trying to move the clusters around inside, shift hears manually and nothing will happen. I can't even slide the gear back to expose the holes for the springs and balls.

On a minor plus, I found the other ball.


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From dmeadow at juno.com  Mon May  5 18:34:13 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:34:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
Message-ID: <20080505.193425.2652.4.dmeadow@juno.com>

I use the hose clamp, as well, although I notch it so I can put one ball
in then turn the notch to each hole to put in the next two.

On Mon, 05 May 2008 17:41:22 -0400 Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
writes:
> Glen Byrns wrote:
> > OOOO!!! Teacher teacher... pick me!  I know that one!
> >
> >   
> 
> Me too!!!
> I use a hose clamp instead of a zip tie.
> set all the springs and balls then punch down on the top to set them 
> all 
> in place.
> Do this on a large white sheet just incase the balls go flying.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From hal at katemuir.com  Mon May  5 18:57:22 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:57:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <481F56AE.20207@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFOEDMGPAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Peter C.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:49 AM
To: Guy Weller
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tight Steering


Ok, I pulled the top trunnion off, and I don't see any shims at all. I
presume the shims are washers of varying thickness? I have searched, but
can't find a source for the shims...

Any tips on where I could score two sets?

Marc

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon May  5 20:22:01 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 19:22:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Bugeye
Message-ID: <016e01c8af1f$f8326b80$53997e4c@HP>

One of the Sebring Bugeyes is advertised in Hemmings for $130,000. Supposed 
to be the Cunningham/Healy entrant.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May  5 23:01:05 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 22:01:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] tranny
Message-ID: <200805060501.m46515Iw027704@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>

Now that's a good trick!  Easier than my mine.

Glen

> I use the hose clamp, as well, although I notch it so I can put one ball
> in then turn the notch to each hole to put in the next two.

From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net  Tue May  6 12:55:14 2008
From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 11:55:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Doublebearing hubs, Now FASPEC
References: <21288936.1204922372047.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <044601c8afaa$b8fdc8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

As a note worth reading.

FASPEC in Portland has closed their doors for good.  The building was sold
and there was not enough business to support 2 fellows and have an OK
inventory on the new rent.

Too bad as they were usually pretty good on having the right stuff on hand.
We will be reverting back to MOSS more and more as the other guys fold their
tents.

Later, Paul A

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To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Doublebearing hubs


> Hey guys and gals,
>
> I just picked up my Winners Circle double bearing hubs.  I bought them not
just to spend money but for the strength and hopefully oil-sealing
qualities.  New parts ought to seal better?
>
> I was speaking to Winners Circle and they say that for really bad oil
leaking rear-ends they offer a "sealed" bearing.  Do any of you know what
bearing number that is or what manufacturer has that bearing?
>
> Also does it go in the farthest position out towards the road wheel or on
the inside?
>
> Thanks for all of your help.
>
> Mike Carpenter
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Tue May  6 13:25:13 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:25:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Transmission Rebuilds
Message-ID: <ce1.29c2fc91.35520a99@aol.com>

"Do this on a large white sheet just incase the balls go flying."
 
Frank, 
 
Your wife needs a large gold medal!
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 5/6/2008 12:05:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:









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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May  6 13:33:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 14:33:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Transmission Rebuilds
In-Reply-To: <ce1.29c2fc91.35520a99@aol.com>
References: <ce1.29c2fc91.35520a99@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805061233m66ebf554ue4bcf57a55699d8e@mail.gmail.com>

So what do YOU suggest for flying balls??
A BLUE DRESS????

LOL

On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 2:25 PM, <RampantNM at aol.com> wrote:

> "Do this on a large white sheet just incase the balls go flying."
>
> Frank,
>
> Your wife needs a large gold medal!
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced
> hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
> adjusted as
> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/6/2008 12:05:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Tue May  6 15:21:38 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:21:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's Transmission Rebuilds
Message-ID: <be1.329e0eba.355225e2@aol.com>

I think glass slippers and little fairy wings would be appropriate!
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 5/6/2008 1:34:17 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

So what  do YOU suggest for flying balls??
A BLUE  DRESS????






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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May  6 18:22:41 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:22:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cyl Head Temp Sender thread size
Message-ID: <329750.16019.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The archives give many different answers - what is the
thread size on the cylinder head temp sender/bulb
boss? Me thinks it's 5/18 - 18, nearly but not a pipe
thread. Please opine.

Ron


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May  6 18:24:06 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 17:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cyl Head Temp Sender thread size
In-Reply-To: <329750.16019.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <213508.17280.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Make that 5/8 - 18.

--- Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The archives give many different answers - what is
> the
> thread size on the cylinder head temp sender/bulb
> boss? Me thinks it's 5/18 - 18, nearly but not a
> pipe
> thread. Please opine.
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May  6 19:49:58 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 21:49:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cyl Head Temp Sender thread size
In-Reply-To: <329750.16019.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <329750.16019.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48210AC6.1090005@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
> The archives give many different answers - what is the
> thread size on the cylinder head temp sender/bulb
> boss? Me thinks it's 5/18 - 18, nearly but not a pipe
> thread. Please opine.
>   
Yes, nearly but not a pipe thread.
I do believe it is a 5/8 x 18


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  7 02:41:25 2008
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 02:41:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net spring fund drive
Message-ID: <48216B35.3030803@bradakis.com>

Gee, the beginning days of May, usually  pleasant spring weather.
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May  7 06:33:02 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 12:33:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] car movies
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39854011F94DB64D6C6978B8D10@phx.gbl>

http://movies.sympatico.msn.ca/features/article.aspx?cp-documentid=481525

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed May  7 07:33:03 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:33:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Unidentified Top Bows
Message-ID: <001501c8b046$e10acd80$65451645@normoffice>

I have a set of top bows that I have no idea as to what car they fit.
Perhaps one of you can help.
 
They are 2-piece like the early MGB top, & have 3 bows, 2 of which end as
round rods (2" long x 0.330" dia.) that fit into sockets on the car body.  
Dimensions:
width = 38"
height when resting on floor = 16"
c-to-c spread front to back = 18"
spread between "feet" = 4"
 
There are straps attached joining the upper bows to fix their position when
in place.  There isn't much difference in height of the bows, front, center
or rear so it would be a pretty flat top when up.
 
I have photos available for further identification if anyone has at least a
clue.  
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks.
 
Norm Sippel

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed May  7 07:52:05 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:52:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
Message-ID: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>

All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and runs easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded out and will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make the plug sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much everything is either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new wires, rotor, cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline checker.  Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is firing).  The same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.  

Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging the front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb caused instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to the top because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I covered the intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though there were no airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very weak compared to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything wrong with the butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the gaskets, etc.  Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see if there were a mouse nest or something.

I am a complete newbie, but my mechanic/tutor has 30 years experience with MGB's.  We are baffled.  

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed May  7 07:58:43 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:58:43 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <000f01c8b04a$76900e80$0d01a8c0@MAIN>

Hi Michael,

Sounds like fuel level in the front carb.  Check that the valve is closing,
and check that the float level is set correctly

Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: 07 May 2008 14:52
To: Spridget Chat Group
Cc: David Blackwell
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect cylinders?

All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and runs
easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded out and
will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make the plug
sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much everything is
either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new wires, rotor,
cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline checker.
Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is firing).  The
same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.

Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging the
front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb caused
instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to the top
because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I covered the
intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though there were no
airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very weak compared
to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything wrong with the
butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the gaskets, etc.
Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see if there were a mouse
nest or something.

I am a complete newbie, but my mechanic/tutor has 30 years experience with
MGB's.  We are baffled.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
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From max at maxengland.com  Wed May  7 08:22:49 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:22:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
References: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <58964.212.166.46.72.1210170169.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Just a guess:

Did you check the fuel line between front and rear carbs? does petrol
split equally between the two carbs? If the line between the two is
obstructed, the rear carbs will get less petrol, and the front ones will
be flooded, won't they? And do your floats work well?

Tell us when you find a solution so we all know.

Max

> All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and
> runs easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded
> out and will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make
> the plug sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much
> everything is either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new
> wires, rotor, cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline
> checker.  Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is
> firing).  The same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.
>
> Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging
> the front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb
> caused instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to
> the top because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I
> covered the intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though
> there were no airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very
> weak compared to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything
> wrong with the butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the
> gaskets, etc.  Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see if
> there were a mouse nest or something.
>
> I am a complete newbie, but my mechanic/tutor has 30 years experience with
> MGB's.  We are baffled.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May  7 08:31:18 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:31:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
References: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805070731ve32c416uee229e06af28f32f@mail.gmail.com>

If you are not getting any airflow into the front carb, reset your valves.
They MUST be set correctly, for proper airflow.
Also, another issue I had in the past, when I did my first attempt at
rebuilding an SU. I had the fixed needle carbs, not the swing spring loaded
kind. The plugs kept fouling, and it took me two weeks to realize that I had
the needle set to far up into the piston. IIRC, you have a early 70's car,
but I am not sure if you have the correct SU's or not. If you have the fixed
needles, let me know, and I will offer up my amateur fix. Pro or not, it
worked a treat.

Brad

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and
> runs easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded out
> and will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make the
> plug sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much everything is
> either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new wires, rotor,
> cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline checker.
>  Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is firing).
>  The same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.
>
> Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging
> the front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb
> caused instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to
> the top because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I
> covered the intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though
> there were no airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very
> weak compared to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything wrong
> with the butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the gaskets,
> etc.  Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see if there were a
> mouse nest or something.
>
> I am a complete newbie, but my mechanic/tutor has 30 years experience with
> MGB's.  We are baffled.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
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From tinydog at snet.net  Wed May  7 08:35:10 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 14:35:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <050720081435.2789.4821BE1E00091AB700000AE522230704929B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:
More mysterious is what you are doing about your rotted spring perches?
 -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: --------------


> All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and runs 
> easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded out and will 
> not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make the plug sooty.  
> Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much everything is either new or 
> cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new wires, rotor, cap, coil plugs.  
> Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline checker.  Compression mid 170's on 1, 
> 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is firing).  The same problem occurred with two 
> different sets of carbs.  
> 
> Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging the 
> front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb caused 
> instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to the top 
> because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I covered the 
> intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though there were no 
> airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very weak compared to 
> the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything wrong with the butterfly.  
> No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the gaskets, etc.  Later, I even 
> stuck my finger in the manifold to see if there were a mouse nest or something.
> 
> I am a complete newbie, but my mechanic/tutor has 30 years experience with 
> MGB's.  We are baffled.  

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed May  7 09:09:35 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:09:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <C447143F.17817%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Fix the float on the front carb.

From tinydog at snet.net  Wed May  7 10:21:38 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 16:21:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <D9BB214A8E9A4A598D1DCEB103708763@Home>
	<050720081435.2789.4821BE1E00091AB700000AE522230704929B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<D9BB214A8E9A4A598D1DCEB103708763@Home>
Message-ID: <050720081621.17657.4821D71200056D48000044F922243322829B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:
How are you planning on attaching all of this angle iron? Welding it in place? What would you attach the angle to on the outer sill/rocker area side of the spring box? That also looks weak in your pictures. Overall I'm skeptical that you would be able to duplicate the stiffness to handle the stresses and loads from the suspension.
 -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>: --------------


> 
> > tinydog sez:
> > More mysterious is what you are doing about your rotted spring perches?
> 
>  Well, I have cut out all the mess, and it looks more reasonable.  Patching 
> in a bought hanger is beyond my capabilities, but it looks like I can do it 
> with some angle iron on either side of the spring box (where the captive 
> nuts should be) and some heavy plate covering the whole  area, doubled up 
> around the bottom of the box under the angle iron, maybe ~1" bigger than the 
> base of the spring bracket.   Drill and tap the plates in place of the 
> captive nuts.   In this way, I would be replacing the stiffness of the 
> triangular bulkheads with really thick horizontal pieces.  If you experts 
> think it wise, I could put a piece off bar stock on the front of the forward 
> bulkhead (in the cockpit) for more vertical stiffening.  This is not 
> authentic, but the cutting and welding require much less skill.  Not sure I 
> used all the right words, but that looks like it should make sense.
> 
> I have been offered for $100 a really good square-bodied tub with nothing on 
> it that can be taken off.  At that price, I can cut round wheel arches to go 
> with  my Bugeye bonnet.  But a project of that size is really intimidating 
> to a newbie.  Somehow, I feel more comfortable getting a running car with a 
> good body, transferring its old parts to the current car for resale, and 
> putting all of the new and rebuilt parts on the  good body (only running 
> gear at this point).  This path lets me work on one part of the car at a 
> time, so I can see how it goes together, etc.  All of you experts forget how 
> much of your knowledge is a mystery to us newbies.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May  7 12:41:59 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:41:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks,
	June 26-29, 2008
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805071141j4c01734dm3fe21fedfe075caa@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy Spridgeteers!

This is just a reminder....

The special room rate at the event headquarters hotel will only be available
for a little over 2 weeks now!  (Until May 23rd!) Yes, there are still a few
rooms available so get your room reserved by calling the hotel ASAP!!   Be
sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets" group to get our special
rate. We've had some feedback that people have been told the hotel is full.
Not so!!  However if you tell a desk clerk "Sprite group" or "that car
thing" they won't know what you are talking about. Sooo....... be sure to
say "Spridgets"!!  You can reach the hotel at 1.800.348.3741.  If you have
problems getting a room call me ASAP on my cell phone - Jim at 620.408.6877

Time is also running out on the cheaper rate for registration!  Only a
little over 3 weeks to go at the $50 per car rate!  As of June 2nd the rate
is $75 per car.  To get the $50 rate, go to the website and either register
online with your credit card or PayPal account or print out the .PDF form
from the website registration page, fill it out and mail it in but be sure
it is postmarked no later than June 1st!  To register online or print the
mail-in form go to:  http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/registration.html and
follow the directions.

There are still some of the beautiful grille badges left at $36 each. These
are once in a lifetime special editions and there won't be enough to go
around so get your order in ASAP on these too!  If you are already
registered, print out the badge order form at
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf>and
mail it in with your check.

Lots of excitement building about this event, so don't get left out!!

See you at Lake of the Ozarks!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
event chair for "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

Contact Jim with questions....
SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com
620.408.6877 (cell)  anytime - day or night

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May  7 12:50:53 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:50:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the  Ozarks,
 June 26-29, 2008
References: <43840a7e0805071141j4c01734dm3fe21fedfe075caa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ba01c8b073$520b2990$6401a8c0@Larry>

Jim, the phone # is 800-348-4731

Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; "bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks,June 
26-29, 2008


Howdy Spridgeteers!

This is just a reminder....

The special room rate at the event headquarters hotel will only be available
for a little over 2 weeks now!  (Until May 23rd!) Yes, there are still a few
rooms available so get your room reserved by calling the hotel ASAP!!   Be
sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets" group to get our special
rate. We've had some feedback that people have been told the hotel is full.
Not so!!  However if you tell a desk clerk "Sprite group" or "that car
thing" they won't know what you are talking about. Sooo....... be sure to
say "Spridgets"!!  You can reach the hotel at 1.800.348.3741.  If you have
problems getting a room call me ASAP on my cell phone - Jim at 620.408.6877

Time is also running out on the cheaper rate for registration!  Only a
little over 3 weeks to go at the $50 per car rate!  As of June 2nd the rate
is $75 per car.  To get the $50 rate, go to the website and either register
online with your credit card or PayPal account or print out the .PDF form
from the website registration page, fill it out and mail it in but be sure
it is postmarked no later than June 1st!  To register online or print the
mail-in form go to:  http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/registration.html and
follow the directions.

There are still some of the beautiful grille badges left at $36 each. These
are once in a lifetime special editions and there won't be enough to go
around so get your order in ASAP on these too!  If you are already
registered, print out the badge order form at
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf>and
mail it in with your check.

Lots of excitement building about this event, so don't get left out!!

See you at Lake of the Ozarks!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
event chair for "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

Contact Jim with questions....
SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com
620.408.6877 (cell)  anytime - day or night
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May  7 12:57:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 13:57:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Correction!: "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the
 Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805071157l5a07db78se7ef90fb590746a1@mail.gmail.com>

Lysdexia is a terrible ginth!!!   I got the hotel phone number mixed up!!
It is the Inn at Grand Glaize in Osage Beach, MO and the phone number is
1-800-348-4731

Thanks to Larry Daniels for pointing that out!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/7/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Howdy Spridgeteers!
>
> This is just a reminder....
>
> The special room rate at the event headquarters hotel will only be
> available for a little over 2 weeks now!  (Until May 23rd!) Yes, there are
> still a few rooms available so get your room reserved by calling the hotel
> ASAP!!   Be sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets" group to get our
> special rate. We've had some feedback that people have been told the hotel
> is full. Not so!!  However if you tell a desk clerk "Sprite group" or "that
> car thing" they won't know what you are talking about. Sooo....... be sure
> to say "Spridgets"!!  You can reach the hotel at 1.800.348.3741.  If you
> have problems getting a room call me ASAP on my cell phone - Jim at
> 620.408.6877
>
> Time is also running out on the cheaper rate for registration!  Only a
> little over 3 weeks to go at the $50 per car rate!  As of June 2nd the rate
> is $75 per car.  To get the $50 rate, go to the website and either register
> online with your credit card or PayPal account or print out the .PDF form
> from the website registration page, fill it out and mail it in but be sure
> it is postmarked no later than June 1st!  To register online or print the
> mail-in form go to:  http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/registration.htmland follow the directions.
>
> There are still some of the beautiful grille badges left at $36 each.
> These are once in a lifetime special editions and there won't be enough to
> go around so get your order in ASAP on these too!  If you are already
> registered, print out the badge order form at
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf>and mail it in with your check.
>
> Lots of excitement building about this event, so don't get left out!!
>
> See you at Lake of the Ozarks!!
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> event chair for "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>
> Contact Jim with questions....
> SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com
> 620.408.6877 (cell)  anytime - day or night
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed May  7 13:01:12 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
Message-ID: <273444.13258.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does anybody have experience mounting a 14" wheel on a square arch Spridget?  I know (or at least think I know) the regular size is a 13"x5" wheel.  I was thinking about getting some mini-lites or a copy thereof and thought the car might look even better with a slightly lower profile tire on a 14" wheel.  I don't even know if anybody makes a 14" in the appropriate bolt pattern and offset.
   
  Does anybody know of a 14"x5" minilite-looking wheel with the same offset and bolt pattern?  
   
  Could maybe a properly-offset 14"x5.5" wheel work or is that not advisable for some reason?
   
  Has anybody done this or seen anybody do it and not have to mess with the rear fenders?  
   
  I have no problem with 13's if nothing is out there, as custom-made wheels are not an option on my budget.  It's just that I've been hanging plus-1 or plus-2 sized wheels on my toy cars for over 20 years now - I just love the look.
   
  Thanks,
   - David Booker
  Long Island 
  '71 Midget

       
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed May  7 13:36:24 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
In-Reply-To: <273444.13258.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <414596.3004.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Custom rims from a Morris center 14 x 5 run $400 painted for solid wheels. The Morris Minor has 14 inch wheels with the same bolt pattern- There is a company in the UK that makes the 14 X 5.5 minilite style rims. They run around $550 for a set of 4 plus shipping. Do you know the off set your trying to find? These may fit. 
   
  Silver Minator 14 x 5.5" wheels for MG Midget, Austin Healey Sprite, Morris Minor. 4x101.6PCD (4x4"), +22 offset, 65.5 center hole. Sold as a set of 4. 
   
  or
   
  Superlite 14x6, polished lip for a Sprite/Midget for $648.00 a set plus shipping
   
  These are the only two styles i have seen. I am not sure if people had to make some changes to make them fit. I have seen them on cars.
   
  Vigil
  fv-ca-usa
  
David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Does anybody have experience mounting a 14" wheel on a square arch Spridget? I know (or at least think I know) the regular size is a 13"x5" wheel. I was thinking about getting some mini-lites or a copy thereof and thought the car might look even better with a slightly lower profile tire on a 14" wheel. I don't even know if anybody makes a 14" in the appropriate bolt pattern and offset.

Does anybody know of a 14"x5" minilite-looking wheel with the same offset and bolt pattern? 

Could maybe a properly-offset 14"x5.5" wheel work or is that not advisable for some reason?

Has anybody done this or seen anybody do it and not have to mess with the rear fenders? 

I have no problem with 13's if nothing is out there, as custom-made wheels are not an option on my budget. It's just that I've been hanging plus-1 or plus-2 sized wheels on my toy cars for over 20 years now - I just love the look.

Thanks,
- David Booker
Long Island 
'71 Midget


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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed May  7 13:36:09 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:36:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] American purchases (You guessed it...No LBC)
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921811@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

   Subject: Federal Rebate Check

     The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600
     rebate. If we spend it at Walmart, the money will go to China. If
     we spend it on gasoline, the money will go to the Middle East. If we
     purchase a computer it will go to India. If we purchase fruit and
     vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. If we
     purchase a good car, it will go to Japan or Germany. If we purchase
     useless crap it will go to Taiwan) and none of it will help the
     American economy.

     The only way to keep the money here at home is to spend it on
     prostitutes, weed, beer and tattoos since these are the only products
     still produced in the USA.

     Thank you for your help and please support the US.

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May  7 14:19:18 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 13:19:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help  !! Missing interior trim piece needed...
Message-ID: <4821AC56.30234.1539EDF@dmg.bossig.com>

HELP Requested!!

I am missing an interior molding from my beast which was made '65(?) 
during the changeover from the MKII Sprite to the MKIII Sprite.

As far as I can tell, it was dropped from later MKII's but was used om the 
MKII's

It is the curved piece of moulding that sits betweem the right side cockpit 
moulding and the post for the passenger side door. About 4" long and is 
shaped like abot 1/4 of a circle.

It is not listed in the Moss, Anglo-Parts or BritVic catalogues

I found pictures of it in Horlers book "Original Sprite and MIdget"
In the top picture on page 56 it's at the top of the photo, to the right of the 
door jamb. just above the tube where the hood frame pieces go.

On page 79, top picture,  it can be seen at the middle bottom  - it curves 
from the cockpit finisher to what would have been the "B" post on a Bug-
eye...

Does any one have this piece in useable condition that they would part 
with???
Please let me know....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May  7 14:53:35 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 15:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help  !! Missing interior trim piece needed...
In-Reply-To: <4821AC56.30234.1539EDF@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4821AC56.30234.1539EDF@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080507154818.0394e788@nosimport.com>

Dave,
         RH is AHA7414
         LH is AHA7415
Fits H-AN8 38829 to 64734 Sprites
and G-AN3 25788 to 52389 Midgets

...and I don't have one.  (except on my car)

Maybe the part numbers will help.

Peter C
======

At 03:19 PM 5/7/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>HELP Requested!!
>
>I am missing an interior molding from my beast which was made '65(?)
>during the changeover from the MKII Sprite to the MKIII Sprite.
>
>As far as I can tell, it was dropped from later MKII's but was used om the
>MKII's
>
>It is the curved piece of moulding that sits betweem the right side cockpit
>moulding and the post for the passenger side door. About 4" long and is
>shaped like abot 1/4 of a circle.
>
>It is not listed in the Moss, Anglo-Parts or BritVic catalogues
>
>I found pictures of it in Horlers book "Original Sprite and MIdget"
>In the top picture on page 56 it's at the top of the photo, to the 
>right of the
>door jamb. just above the tube where the hood frame pieces go.
>
>On page 79, top picture,  it can be seen at the middle bottom  - it curves
>from the cockpit finisher to what would have been the "B" post on a Bug-
>eye...
>
>Does any one have this piece in useable condition that they would part
>with???
>Please let me know....
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May  7 16:57:35 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 15:57:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] American purchases (You guessed it...No LBC)
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921811@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921811@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <92016443.20080507155735@pacifier.com>

Hello John,

     not the only thing.....

     i work mostly in wood products mills...

     newsprint, paper milk cartons, and toilet paper are all still
     made in the USA... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Going out of my mind, back in 5 minutes. 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May  7 17:51:34 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:51:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help !! Missing interior trim piece needed...
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080507154818.0394e788@nosimport.com>
References: <4821AC56.30234.1539EDF@dmg.bossig.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080507154818.0394e788@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805071651m67bc7cd4k807dbd3b593bd09@mail.gmail.com>

FOUND ONE!!!!!
Dave, hit me offlist, or call me at 817-933-1590

Brad

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>         RH is AHA7414
>         LH is AHA7415
> Fits H-AN8 38829 to 64734 Sprites
> and G-AN3 25788 to 52389 Midgets
>
> ...and I don't have one.  (except on my car)
>
> Maybe the part numbers will help.
>
> Peter C
> ======
>
> At 03:19 PM 5/7/2008, Dave G. wrote:
> >HELP Requested!!
> >
> >I am missing an interior molding from my beast which was made '65(?)
> >during the changeover from the MKII Sprite to the MKIII Sprite.
> >
> >As far as I can tell, it was dropped from later MKII's but was used om
> the
> >MKII's
> >
> >It is the curved piece of moulding that sits betweem the right side
> cockpit
> >moulding and the post for the passenger side door. About 4" long and is
> >shaped like abot 1/4 of a circle.
> >
> >It is not listed in the Moss, Anglo-Parts or BritVic catalogues
> >
> >I found pictures of it in Horlers book "Original Sprite and MIdget"
> >In the top picture on page 56 it's at the top of the photo, to the
> >right of the
> >door jamb. just above the tube where the hood frame pieces go.
> >
> >On page 79, top picture,  it can be seen at the middle bottom  - it
> curves
> >from the cockpit finisher to what would have been the "B" post on a Bug-
> >eye...
> >
> >Does any one have this piece in useable condition that they would part
> >with???
> >Please let me know....
> >
> >--
> >Dave G.   KK7SS
> >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> >"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
> >     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
> _______________________________________________
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From above_the_line at yahoo.com  Wed May  7 19:41:18 2008
From: above_the_line at yahoo.com (Michael Burkhart)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 18:41:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PAINT COLOR
Message-ID: <616144.6037.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

DOES ANYONE KNOW THE COLOR NUMBER OF THE INSIDE OF THE INSTRUMENTS FOR THE BUGEYE? ALSO IS THERE A PROBLEM IN PAINTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE INSTRUMENT HOUSING?

Michael L. Burkhart(214) 924-3133 above_the_line at yahoo.com

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May  7 19:56:42 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 18:56:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help !! Missing interior trim piece needed...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805071651m67bc7cd4k807dbd3b593bd09@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4821AC56.30234.1539EDF@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080507154818.0394e788@nosimport.com>,
	<e98d88090805071651m67bc7cd4k807dbd3b593bd09@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4821FB6A.4027.288832A@dmg.bossig.com>

Brad,

Fantastic...

I very much doubt that you have both the left and the right ones...
The DPO didn't use the hidden bolt on the drivers side... he just put a sheet 
metal screw right throught the part into the body!!!!  So there's thi sbig 
cross-head screw showing where there should be smooth...

Let me know how much (shipped) to 99354, and I'll send you a check and 
my home address

BTW... Horler's book shows the cockpit surround and the door mouldings 
as being vinyl covered. The ones on my beast have been painted to look 
like aluminum with sparkly bits in it... Should they be covered or doesn't it 
matter as I'm not going for concours....???

I did try calling but I don't know what time zone you are in...

Thanks a lot for your effort...   ;-))

On 7 May 2008 at 18:51, Brad Fornal wrote:
>> FOUND ONE!!!!!
>> Dave, hit me offlist, or call me at 817-933-1590


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May  7 20:01:17 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 19:01:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch question...
Message-ID: <4821FC7D.5873.28CB775@dmg.bossig.com>

Dumb question of the day  ???

My beast has a 1275 motor with a rib-cage bearbox
.
Checking against the manuals, the clutch MC is for a 1098 (MKII ??.)
Would this explain why the clutch is fierce and has to go almost to the floor 
to engage/disengage??
Is there anything I can do to make the clutch smoother without replacing 
the hydraulics??


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May  7 21:03:39 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:03:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PAINT COLOR
In-Reply-To: <616144.6037.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <616144.6037.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48226D8B.4010401@comcast.net>

Michael Burkhart wrote:
> DOES ANYONE KNOW THE COLOR NUMBER OF THE INSIDE OF THE INSTRUMENTS FOR THE BUGEYE? ALSO IS THERE A PROBLEM IN PAINTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE INSTRUMENT HOUSING?
>
>   
I paint the inside of the housing white, mask off the triangle and then 
paint the greenish/blue with Rustoleum American Accents
Aqua, it's a very close match and an off the shelf paint at the hardware 
store. The outside of the housing gets Rustoleum Matte Nickel, again 
close enough to original for an off the shelf paint.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May  7 21:39:04 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 23:39:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <482275D8.50601@smarc.net>

Got a replacement temp/press gauge today... I had the afternoon free, 
figured I'd have a go...

Drained the coolant some so I could remove the old sensor. Figured that 
was also a good time to replace the seeping gasket for the heater 
valve... Well, while I have the valve off, may as well take some time to 
bead blast it... Plug the openings, blast it, make a gasket, put it 
together. All looks good.

I probably should have quit about this time...

Back to the gauge replacement, I went to disconnect the old oil pressure 
flex line, it's seeping, it's years old, and I have a replacement. Of 
course the hose clamp for that is inaccessible, under the housing for 
the heater core. Oh well, I was wanting to check out the condition of 
that core anyway...

Front three screws come out easily. Back three... nope... Remove bonnet 
to make room to work. Besides, engine and trans are coming out soon.... 
Wrestle with vice grips. That gets two out of three... Die grinder takes 
the head off the last one...

Back to removing the gauge... I don't see any easy way to do this, 
figure I may as well bite the bullet, and remove the dashboard. Jeez... 
the MGB dash removal is a piece of cake compared to the Midget... 
Finally get the dash removed, breaking my fan switch and choke cable in 
the process... Find massive wiring harness damage... Repair or replace? 
I have already patched up this harness in multiple places... Have to 
stew over this one...

Well, guess you win some, you lose some...

-- 

Marc

From mrzepkow at rochester.rr.com  Wed May  7 21:43:28 2008
From: mrzepkow at rochester.rr.com (Marlene Rzepkowski)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 23:43:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
References: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
Message-ID: <013d01c8b0bd$ad9c7a80$0200a8c0@Ziprrrzdesktop>

Sounds like spark plug wires to 1 and 2 are reversed and fiddling with the 
carbs is just leaning out the firing cylinders to confuse the issue. 
Remember the firing order is 1,3,4,2 and the Dizzy goes counter clockwise. 
So maybe 1 and 2 are firing but not at the right times?  Easy enough to 
check anyway.
Dick Rz.


> All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly and 
> runs easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are flooded 
> out and will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough to make 
> the plug sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much 
> everything is either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic ignition, new 
> wires, rotor, cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by inline 
> checker.  Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3 (which is 
> firing).  The same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.
>
> Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down, plugging 
> the front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back carb 
> caused instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the way to 
> the top because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that condition, I 
> covered the intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as though 
> there were no airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum felt very 
> weak compared to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything 
> wrong with the butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test at the 
> gaskets, etc.  Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see if 
> there were a mouse nest or something.
. 

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu May  8 08:34:56 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 07:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <200805081434.m48EYu0M011272@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>

Marc,

Sounds like you followed the correct procedure.  Pick at one thread and
then re-knit the sweater.  Have fun!

Glen

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu May  8 08:54:30 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:54:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed
Message-ID: <006701c8b11b$6bc42870$6401a8c0@personal>

I need a real email address for you. Pls send to

jlaird237 at cox.net

Jack

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May  8 09:00:49 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:00:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <200805081434.m48EYu0M011272@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200805081434.m48EYu0M011272@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <482315A1.3020008@smarc.net>

Well..... Since the heater box is out, the wiring harness is going to be 
out, and the engine is going to be out shortly, I'm stumbling down that 
road... thinking , "well, the engine bay is looking pretty ratty...." 
Wonder how bad I could screw up painting it myself..."

As usual, I have more questions then answers... Looking to make up the 
shortfall here! :-D

I expect clean up of the area to involve scrubbing, engine cleaner, 
degreaser, possibly pressure washer, scraping, sanding, swearing and 
bleeding...

So, how DO you match up paint colors? I want the engine bay the same 
color as the car.

Are the inexpensive paint guns at horrible freight up to the task of 
spraying the engine bay? This is by no means a show car, just a 
driver... I'm planning on using the rattle cans of green paint for the 
motor. Is there an appropriate shade of green in the off-the-shelf 
engine paint, or is the Moss product the best way to go?

Marc



Glen Byrns wrote:
> Marc,
>
> Sounds like you followed the correct procedure.  Pick at one thread and
> then re-knit the sweater.  Have fun!
>
> Glen
> _______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu May  8 10:30:47 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 09:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <482315A1.3020008@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <C44878C7.17879%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> inexpensive paint guns at horrible freight
The purple one is pretty good. The copy of the Binks 115 is pretty good.
The black one's good for primer.

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May  8 12:17:23 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:17:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
References: <414596.3004.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01aa01c8b137$c345ac60$6801a8c0@shop>

Vigil:

<<They run around $550 for a set of 4 plus shipping.>>

Have you checked that price lately??  I would expect it is way higher due to lackluster Dollar vs Pound?!?!?

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May  8 13:04:16 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:04:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed
References: <006701c8b11b$6bc42870$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <02a701c8b13e$5097e640$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I need a real email address for you.>>

er, why Jack!!

Just hit "Reply" button and it's right there<G>!!  Delete the List Address and send away!!<G>

Opportunity to hop up on soapbox<VBG>!!
<rant>
One of my pet peeves is gettin TWO of my posts when a Lister hits "Reply ALL"!!  PLEASE     EDIT    these mails!!  Sometimes a given post will have up to a half dozen addresses !!!  That means 6 folks get TWO replies!!
No reason nor excuse!!!
</rant>

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu May  8 12:30:17 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:30:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed
References: <006701c8b11b$6bc42870$6401a8c0@personal>
	<02a701c8b13e$5097e640$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <003701c8b139$90f9c780$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> One of my pet peeves is gettin TWO of my posts when a Lister hits "Reply 
> ALL"!!  PLEASE     EDIT    these mails!!  Sometimes a given post will have 
> up to a half dozen addresses !!!  That means 6 folks get TWO replies!!
> No reason nor excuse!!!

OK folks, lets take up a collection to get Ed a new keyboard... One of the 
fancy ones that has a delete button ;-0 

From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu May  8 13:28:26 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 15:28:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SPRITE JUBILEE 2008
Message-ID: <012001c8b141$b0baec90$2f01a8c0@dell1>

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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu May  8 14:41:13 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 16:41:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Marco Carcich
Message-ID: <060e01c8b14b$dbcedd10$6401a8c0@universal1>

    Ed is at edriver at sasktel.net

----- Original Message -----
From: E.A. Driver
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Subject: [Healeys] Marco Carcich


Marco

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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu May  8 15:39:09 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:39:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] nail this car???
Message-ID: <000601c8b153$f55aa720$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I've been a good boy, cleaned my plate and mowed the lawn.  The wife says "If
you must..."
So it comes down to "What do you think?"  Is this a sweet little underpriced
find that I should bring home this Saturday?

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/672213235.html

I'm very tempted just for the bonnet alone.  Probably 8 or 900 cash in hand
will do it I'll bet.  Yeah, I know, ugly a$$ wheels.

Glen

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu May  8 17:15:17 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 16:15:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] nail this car???
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b153$f55aa720$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFMEKKGPAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Glen 
Go for it!!!!!!!!!!
This should get you fleet rate on your insurance!
Hal

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu May  8 18:06:28 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 19:06:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Two perfect  cylinders?
In-Reply-To: <013d01c8b0bd$ad9c7a80$0200a8c0@Ziprrrzdesktop>
References: <B4CC722961964804859DA42F52129CC1@Home>
	<013d01c8b0bd$ad9c7a80$0200a8c0@Ziprrrzdesktop>
Message-ID: <D9C5254B-7500-4729-8C96-C5C1A83DD3C5@comcast.net>

As the saying goes, 90% of all carb problems are ignition related and  
vice versa

Lester


On May 7, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Marlene Rzepkowski wrote:

> Sounds like spark plug wires to 1 and 2 are reversed and fiddling  
> with the
> carbs is just leaning out the firing cylinders to confuse the issue.
> Remember the firing order is 1,3,4,2 and the Dizzy goes counter  
> clockwise.
> So maybe 1 and 2 are firing but not at the right times?  Easy enough  
> to
> check anyway.
> Dick Rz.
>
>
>> All right all you mystery lovers.  My "new" engine starts perfectly  
>> and
>> runs easily - on two cylinders, 3 and 4.  Cylinders 1 and 2 are  
>> flooded
>> out and will not fire.  At one point, cylinder 2 was firing enough  
>> to make
>> the plug sooty.  Cylinder 1 was always wet with gas.  Pretty much
>> everything is either new or cleaned and checked.  Electronic  
>> ignition, new
>> wires, rotor, cap, coil plugs.  Spark to all cylinders confirmed by  
>> inline
>> checker.  Compression mid 170's on 1, 2, and 4, mid 160's on 3  
>> (which is
>> firing).  The same problem occurred with two different sets of carbs.
>>
>> Here's the fun part.  When the carbs were set at 12 flats down,  
>> plugging
>> the front carb caused a large increase in speed.  Plugging the back  
>> carb
>> caused instant death.  I leaned the front carb pretty much all the  
>> way to
>> the top because cylinders 1 and 2 were flooding.  In that  
>> condition, I
>> covered the intake with my hand and absolutely nothing happened, as  
>> though
>> there were no airflow through the front carb at all.  The vacuum  
>> felt very
>> weak compared to the rear carb.  There does not appear to be anything
>> wrong with the butterfly.  No evidence of leaking by an ether test  
>> at the
>> gaskets, etc.  Later, I even stuck my finger in the manifold to see  
>> if
>> there were a mouse nest or something.
> .

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May  8 18:23:20 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 20:23:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <482315A1.3020008@smarc.net>
References: <200805081434.m48EYu0M011272@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu>
	<482315A1.3020008@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48239978.9050204@comcast.net>

Marc

HF does have a $20 paint gun, I use if for the quick stuff like 
radiators, or small parts that need to be car color before assembly.  In 
fact, I got one on sale for $9.99, cheaper to toss it than to clean it.
Paul A, if he is in better condition has the correct green engine paint. 
I have seen a couple of his posts so I think he's doing better, I sure 
hope so.
As for a color match on the car, check out the fleet colors at the local 
auto paint supplier, there is something close for sure.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu May  8 18:33:09 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:33:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
In-Reply-To: <01aa01c8b137$c345ac60$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <627542.56168.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I believe that price is about right.  I found these guys on the web and was surprised at the price.  I just need somebody to tell me from experience that they actually fit under square arches...  Kind of hard to return them if they don't fit when you ship them across the Atlantic.
   
  Anybody seen this combo on a pre-'74 Spridget without fender flares?
   
   - David

Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
  Vigil:

<>

Have you checked that price lately?? I would expect it is way higher due to lackluster Dollar vs Pound?!?!?
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu May  8 18:40:56 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 17:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] nail this car???
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b153$f55aa720$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <197900.89766.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Go For It!  Permission is better than forgiveness if you're silly enough to ask for it.  I personally do it the other way around more often than not.  
   
  The nose is quite a find even if the car is crap and end up parting it out - which it doesn't look that bad.  
   
   - David
   
  

Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
  I've been a good boy, cleaned my plate and mowed the lawn. The wife says "If
you must..."
So it comes down to "What do you think?" Is this a sweet little underpriced
find that I should bring home this Saturday?

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/672213235.html

I'm very tempted just for the bonnet alone. Probably 8 or 900 cash in hand
will do it I'll bet. Yeah, I know, ugly a$$ wheels.

Glen
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri May  9 01:26:57 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 00:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake Parts Needed
Message-ID: <17e14a39876a55638a14430a.20080509002657.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Anyone have the parts I need to convert my Bugeye to disc brakes with an
anti-sway bar they would like to sell?  Looking for a complete setup. 
Only have to be in rebuildable condition.  I am located in Southern
Kalifornia.  With Gerard's help I got my 1275 running a lot better.  So
good in fact, that the 7 inch drums on the front are just not going to cut
it anymore.  They were O.K. when the 948 was in it, but the thing goes
like stink now.  Thanks Gerard.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 05:50:31 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:50:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
Message-ID: <11517372.1210333831242.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
>Sent: May 8, 2008 8:33 PM
>To: Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com>, spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>I believe that price is about right.  I found these guys on the web and was surprised at the price.  I just need somebody to tell me from experience that they actually fit under square arches...  Kind of hard to return them if they don't fit when you ship them across the Atlantic.
>   
>  Anybody seen this combo on a pre-'74 Spridget without fender flares?
>   
>   - David
>
>Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>  Vigil:
>
><>
>
>Have you checked that price lately?? I would expect it is way higher due to lackluster Dollar vs Pound?!?!?
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May  9 06:51:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:51:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
References: <11517372.1210333831242.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <024d01c8b1d3$6f8aead0$0201a8c0@midget>

> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more 
> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better 
> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of 
> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.

Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am not 
sure I woluld agree with this statement. 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri May  9 07:00:04 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:00:04 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
In-Reply-To: <024d01c8b1d3$6f8aead0$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <005b01c8b1d4$99f9d7d0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

I am using 5.5" rims without problems

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: 09 May 2008 13:52
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?

> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more
> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better
> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of
> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.

Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am not
sure I woluld agree with this statement.
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 07:01:02 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:01:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
Message-ID: <18507493.1210338062146.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have had 3.5 rims actually rub if you have to run a 155 or 165 section tire.  I guess that you can run 6 in. rims if you don't mind a little rubbing ;^).  

I have to think that maybe they had a different offset to them?  Anyways, it doesn't matter just modify the wheel arch as every racer does.  They look OK that way if they are done correctly.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 8:51 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more 
>> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better 
>> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of 
>> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.
>
>Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am not 
>sure I woluld agree with this statement. 


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 07:07:31 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:07:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
Message-ID: <27510295.1210338451361.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You da' man!  I think that you can put 6 in. rims in the stock wheel arches if ya don't drive it.  I guess just stand there and look at it ;^).

Of course their are exceptions to everything.  OK, we will say that in general the square wheel arch Spridgets were designed for narrow rims.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 9:00 AM
>To: 'David Lieb' <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>, 'Spridgets' <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>I am using 5.5" rims without problems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>Of David Lieb
>Sent: 09 May 2008 13:52
>To: Spridgets
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more
>> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better
>> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of
>> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.
>
>Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am not
>sure I woluld agree with this statement.
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri May  9 07:08:29 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:08:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Marc:

I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint.  Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.

--DAvid C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
> Well..... Since the heater box is out, the wiring harness is going to be 
> out, and the engine is going to be out shortly, I'm stumbling down that 
> road... thinking , "well, the engine bay is looking pretty ratty...." 
> Wonder how bad I could screw up painting it myself..."
> 
> As usual, I have more questions then answers... Looking to make up the 
> shortfall here! :-D
> 
> I expect clean up of the area to involve scrubbing, engine cleaner, 
> degreaser, possibly pressure washer, scraping, sanding, swearing and 
> bleeding...
> 
> So, how DO you match up paint colors? I want the engine bay the same 
> color as the car.
> 
> Are the inexpensive paint guns at horrible freight up to the task of 
> spraying the engine bay? This is by no means a show car, just a 
> driver... I'm planning on using the rattle cans of green paint for the 
> motor. Is there an appropriate shade of green in the off-the-shelf 
> engine paint, or is the Moss product the best way to go?
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
> 
> Glen Byrns wrote:
> > Marc,
> >
> > Sounds like you followed the correct procedure.  Pick at one thread and
> > then re-knit the sweater.  Have fun!
> >
> > Glen
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May  9 07:13:21 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 13:13:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake Parts Needed
In-Reply-To: <17e14a39876a55638a14430a.20080509002657.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F348B8C496B1D8045472707B8D30@phx.gbl>

re: "goes like stink"

I can kind of understand that expression.  But, ... some "stink" just 
lingers forever and doesn't go away at all ... like that dead skunk that I 
had the pleasure of driving by 6 times yesterday on the highway near my 
parents.  :)

RD


----Original Message Follows----
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com

Anyone have the parts I need to convert my Bugeye to disc brakes with an
anti-sway bar they would like to sell?  Looking for a complete setup.
Only have to be in rebuildable condition.  I am located in Southern
Kalifornia.  With Gerard's help I got my 1275 running a lot better.  So
good in fact, that the 7 inch drums on the front are just not going to cut
it anymore.  They were O.K. when the 948 was in it, but the thing goes
like stink now.  Thanks Gerard.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri May  9 07:15:28 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:15:28 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
In-Reply-To: <27510295.1210338451361.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <006401c8b1d6$c0bb57c0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Mine is a square wheel arch car. It has 5.5" rims and 13/175/60 tyres. I
drive it. About 9,000 miles a year. I also go around corners.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Mike/Donna Carpenter
Sent: 09 May 2008 14:08
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?

You da' man!  I think that you can put 6 in. rims in the stock wheel arches
if ya don't drive it.  I guess just stand there and look at it ;^).

Of course their are exceptions to everything.  OK, we will say that in
general the square wheel arch Spridgets were designed for narrow rims.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 9:00 AM
>To: 'David Lieb' <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>, 'Spridgets'
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>I am using 5.5" rims without problems
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>Of David Lieb
>Sent: 09 May 2008 13:52
>To: Spridgets
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more
>> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better
>> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of
>> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.
>
>Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am
not
>sure I woluld agree with this statement.
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 08:12:03 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:12:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
Message-ID: <16711208.1210342323176.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Are you positive that you are actually going around corners? ;^)) 

It sounds like somebody has already stretched your wheel arch metal or you hang all of the rim towards the diff.

You obviously have the extraordinary Spridget.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 9:15 AM
>To: 'Mike/Donna Carpenter' <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>, 'Spridgets' <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>Mine is a square wheel arch car. It has 5.5" rims and 13/175/60 tyres. I
>drive it. About 9,000 miles a year. I also go around corners.
>
>Guy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>Of Mike/Donna Carpenter
>Sent: 09 May 2008 14:08
>To: 'Spridgets'
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>
>You da' man!  I think that you can put 6 in. rims in the stock wheel arches
>if ya don't drive it.  I guess just stand there and look at it ;^).
>
>Of course their are exceptions to everything.  OK, we will say that in
>general the square wheel arch Spridgets were designed for narrow rims.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
>>Sent: May 9, 2008 9:00 AM
>>To: 'David Lieb' <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>, 'Spridgets'
><spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>>
>>I am using 5.5" rims without problems
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>>Of David Lieb
>>Sent: 09 May 2008 13:52
>>To: Spridgets
>>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Plus one wheel size/availability?
>>
>>> Do you have modified rear arches?  If not, it was designed for no more
>>> than a 3.5 in. wide rim.  So 5 or 5.5 would be pushing it and ya better
>>> have an excellent panhard rod and use stock rear springs over any kind of
>>> less leaf racing springs.  The back axle seems to walk more.
>>
>>Factory wires were 4" rims and factory RO-Styles were 4.5" rims, so I am
>not
>>sure I woluld agree with this statement.
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May  9 08:21:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:21:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
References: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <005101c8b1df$ef945c00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like 
> NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted 
> body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint. 
> Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a 
> scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.

And just how many shades of BLACK do you think there are? Marc has a 1973 
and the engine should NOT be green in it, it should be black ;-) 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 08:27:40 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:27:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <30133918.1210343260340.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have to disagree here ;^).  There are as many shades of black as there are any color.

Also matching a color by computer and what is actually mixed and what is actually sprayed are three different colors.

Good luck if you are a perfectionist.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 10:21 AM
>To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something
>
>> I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like 
>> NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted 
>> body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint. 
>> Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a 
>> scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.
>
>And just how many shades of BLACK do you think there are? Marc has a 1973 
>and the engine should NOT be green in it, it should be black ;-) 
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri May  9 08:36:24 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 14:36:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <050920081436.5020.48246168000732FF0000139C2215551724C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hmmm--A hardware store question!!   8^)   I suppose there are as many shades of black as there are shades of red, green, blue, or lamps.   Not sure how specific the computerized scanners get--as I noted, I have never used the system, but if I were trying to match paint, I think I would start with that, unless I was well padded in the pocket (checkbook mechanic) and could afford a top body man to match it. 

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> > I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like 
> > NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted 
> > body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint. 
> > Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a 
> > scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.
> 
> And just how many shades of BLACK do you think there are? Marc has a 1973 
> and the engine should NOT be green in it, it should be black ;-) 
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From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 08:55:46 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 07:55:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paint (was" It's always something")
In-Reply-To: <050920081436.5020.48246168000732FF0000139C2215551724C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <050920081436.5020.48246168000732FF0000139C2215551724C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48240382.18043.2CA6AA@dmg.bossig.com>

Last week I asked my boy how quickly could he get me a small bottle of 
touch-up paint to match my "Iris Blue" paint..

He works in a body shop and he gave me a full tour - most interesting to 
say the least.

Using the color code from the VIN number on his twin-turbo Z, he shpwed 
me that it took various amounts of 7 different colours (I know I'm using the 
wrong words!) added to the base to get his shade of Red...!!

I mentioned that myeast was made before VIN numbers.... he wished me 
lots of luck!!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May  9 09:04:26 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 10:04:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
References: <30133918.1210343260340.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <006401c8b1e5$f9fe9f60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I have to disagree here ;^).  There are as many shades of black as there 
>are any color.
> Also matching a color by computer and what is actually mixed and what is 
> actually sprayed are three different colors.
> Good luck if you are a perfectionist.

I suppose that then you have to be sure to leak the correct brand and weight 
of oil onto the engine, too? 

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May  9 09:25:21 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:25:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c8b1e8$e5ab58c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

I very seriously doubt that you will find that scanner at a NAPA store,
since paint is nowhere near to being a specialty for them.  Best bet is
an auto body paint & supply store (the store that the body shops buy
their paint & supplies from).  Also, I wouldn't recommend buying any
autobody refinishing products from NAPA, as their paint product line is
geared more toward the shade tree "mechanic", and may only give you
mediocre results.  On the other hand, a professional autobody paint
store will have exactly the right product for you to achieve the best
results.  They are also far more likely to have people behind the
counter who can give you professional, experience-based advice on how to
apply the coatings & products they sell.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:08 AM
To: Marc; Glen Byrns
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something


Marc:

I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores,
like NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or
painted body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the
paint.  Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have
such a scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.

--DAvid C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter."
-- Anonymous

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May  9 09:29:33 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 11:29:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48246DDD.6000704@smarc.net>

Ok, a little sanity has prevailed - decided I'm going to limit the scope 
of the project for now. Rather then rush all this stuff and do a lame 
job, I'm going to get the car back into 'driver' form, and enjoy it over 
the summer. My MGB needs some TLC, and I gotta have at least one working 
(relatively) LBC for the summer.

I  expect the new wiring harness today, and I'm going to leave the 
heater box out of the midget for now, and I will putz around getting 
that refurbed this summer. Then I can experiment with a paint gun before 
having to do a more substantial project. I have done quite a bit of 
painting with rattle cans, and am able to get nice smooth finishes with 
them. I would guess a paint gun is more controllable then a spray can...

Marc



dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:
> Marc:
>
> I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint.  Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.
>
> --DAvid C.
> "Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
>   
>> Well..... Since the heater box is out, the wiring harness is going to be 
>> out, and the engine is going to be out shortly, I'm stumbling down that 
>> road... thinking , "well, the engine bay is looking pretty ratty...." 
>> Wonder how bad I could screw up painting it myself..."
>>
>> As usual, I have more questions then answers... Looking to make up the 
>> shortfall here! :-D
>>
>> I expect clean up of the area to involve scrubbing, engine cleaner, 
>> degreaser, possibly pressure washer, scraping, sanding, swearing and 
>> bleeding...
>>
>> So, how DO you match up paint colors? I want the engine bay the same 
>> color as the car.
>>
>> Are the inexpensive paint guns at horrible freight up to the task of 
>> spraying the engine bay? This is by no means a show car, just a 
>> driver... I'm planning on using the rattle cans of green paint for the 
>> motor. Is there an appropriate shade of green in the off-the-shelf 
>> engine paint, or is the Moss product the best way to go?
>>
>> Marc

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May  9 09:39:02 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 11:39:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
Message-ID: <27775362.1210347542892.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I try to.  I have two cases of sunoco / Redline race oil from the seventies that I mix in with the 20W-50 Castrol oil.  My engines get the correct patina to them ;^).



-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: May 9, 2008 11:04 AM
>To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something
>
>>I have to disagree here ;^).  There are as many shades of black as there 
>>are any color.
>> Also matching a color by computer and what is actually mixed and what is 
>> actually sprayed are three different colors.
>> Good luck if you are a perfectionist.
>
>I suppose that then you have to be sure to leak the correct brand and weight 
>of oil onto the engine, too? 


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From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Fri May  9 10:02:58 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:02:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3D-CAD Spriget Body Drawings
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11757.1210338925.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11757.1210338925.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <854DD02D-A3C2-428B-B54A-BC9139A033BE@dartmouth.edu>

Does anyone have or know of 3D-CAD drawing file(s) of the spriget body  
sheet metal - outer sheet metal, not so much the undercarriage (though  
that would be a bonus)?

thanks,
-m

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri May  9 11:32:31 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 10:32:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <006401c8b1e5$f9fe9f60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <C449D8BF.178F0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Are you painting the engine? I thought this thread was about painting under
the hood while the engine was out. 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May  9 14:02:01 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:02:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Indy 500 Tickets
Message-ID: <004401c8b20f$a1d20b90$6801a8c0@shop>

Just got Owner's Permission to offer to Spridgeteers (first<VBG>!!!)  NFI, yada, yada, yada!!!!  Write HIM, NOT me!!!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Fred Wescoe 
To: Healey List 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:08 PM
Subject: [Healeys] Indy 500 Tickets, Not Healey Related


If you are not interested in going to this year's Indianapolis 500 race,
please delete.

Listers,

I have owned 8 tickets to the Indianapolis 500 for over 50 years. As it happens every now and then, 2 of the tickets may be available if anyone is interested.

These tickets are 2 Paddock Box seats in Box 16, Row S, seats 9 and 10. This means the seats are 19 elevated rows off the surface of the race track. The two tickets are with another set of 2 in which I sit. The tickets are located on the main straight, about 60 feet past the start/finish line (and the flag tower), across from the pits, the scoring towers, the beauty queens and the winner's circle. The seats are terrific for the action and are out of the sun
once the race starts. The race is Sunday, May 25.

I will know definitely about the availability of the tickets in a day or so.
There is also a possibility of one of our dry camping sites (20' x 20') being available. Our group has a total of 6 spots for RVs, etc. If the site is also available, it is for Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

I buy the tickets from the track every year as a repeat customer and they are $90 each, they would only be available as a pair, and the camping site is $50.  The face value is all I am asking for the tickets and the camping site. In the past, I have sold these tickets for $300 a set, at the track, on race day.

If anyone is interested, please reply to me off line.

Fred
fredwescoe at windstream.net
63 BJ7 (Editor's comment:  GREAT car<G>!!)

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 13:16:27 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 12:16:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Indy 500 Tickets
In-Reply-To: <004401c8b20f$a1d20b90$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <004401c8b20f$a1d20b90$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <4824409B.7725.11B4FF4@dmg.bossig.com>

Don't laugh...

IIRC - In 1993, the Indy 500 Pace Car was a Chevy Suburban....

Go Figure!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri May  9 13:22:38 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:22:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Always looking (LBC content)
Message-ID: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>

For a couple (2) of the clamps for the ends of the heater duct line. They
looked like a 4 inch circle of wire with ears bent into the ends to grab em
and remove or replace.

I'm sure someone has em stuck away. Miss Agatha would appreciate. Name your
price, etc.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May  9 13:37:00 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Always looking (LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805091237kf3e85dai50d94fde42b7b69a@mail.gmail.com>

I had to buy mine from Clarke Restoration and Spares. I put out a call
first, but ended up having to buy them.


Brad

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Jack Laird <jlaird237 at cox.net> wrote:

> For a couple (2) of the clamps for the ends of the heater duct line. They
> looked like a 4 inch circle of wire with ears bent into the ends to grab em
> and remove or replace.
>
> I'm sure someone has em stuck away. Miss Agatha would appreciate. Name your
> price, etc.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May  9 14:46:48 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 14:46:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Always looking (LBC content)
References: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <010801c8b215$cdc81b80$6801a8c0@shop>

<<They looked like a 4 inch circle of wire with ears bent into the ends to grab em
and remove or replace.>>

Only thing I have ever seen a regular wire-type hose clamps.  But for some reason, worm drive style sticks in my mind also?!?!?

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri May  9 14:04:27 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:04:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] convert an EPS
Message-ID: <007401c8b20f$ea0dddd0$be299970$@com>

Hey y'all,

 

My buddy Ed is the tour manager for Joan Jett & the Blackhearts. I'm doing
some vinyl work for him, and the EPS he sent me won.t open in the version of
Illustrator I have, or in my vinyl program. Can one of youse guys save it
for me in an earlier version of Illustrator?

 

Thanks

 

 

Wm. Severin Thompson

~iii<O



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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  9 14:44:57 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:44:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>

Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring 
a concrete floor this weekend.

Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine 
example of a 1952 Austin Champ.

Google it.

Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting 
outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)

It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military 
collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.

My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I 
don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.

If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in 
the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.

Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.

Peter C. 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri May  9 14:45:29 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:45:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] convert an EPS
In-Reply-To: <F6F78441-9A2D-468C-94FB-FE291880BB75@uiuc.edu>
References: <007401c8b20f$ea0dddd0$be299970$@com>
	<DAAAC0C4-7615-4239-B7B8-8D7F82FA0661@uiuc.edu>
	<008901c8b211$60853570$218fa050$@com>
	<C5412E75-0349-4831-8202-2EA8B92002C0@uiuc.edu>
	<00a101c8b212$654cda30$2fe68e90$@com>
	<F6F78441-9A2D-468C-94FB-FE291880BB75@uiuc.edu>
Message-ID: <00b801c8b215$a014e380$e03eaa80$@com>

That worked, thanks Scott

 

From: Scott Paceley [mailto:spaceley at uiuc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:21 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Subject: Re: [Thicko] convert an EPS

 

No option for 5. Could do 3 though. Let me know...

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri May  9 14:59:00 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 15:59:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805091359g10f6da3cqbe785bee6e20913e@mail.gmail.com>

Geez, Peter!  When I lived in England in the latter half of the 60s my best
British friend was a sheep farmer and he had one of these things all cut
down which he used as a tractor type thing around the farm!  Just seeing it
again brings back fond memories of laying in the mud at 34F with my arm up
to my shoulder inside some stubborn ewe trying to turn the lamb around for
birthing. It would almost be worth $1500 to buy it and push it off a
cliff.....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring
> a concrete floor this weekend.
>
> Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine
> example of a 1952 Austin Champ.
>
> Google it.
>
> Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting
> outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)
>
> It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military
> collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.
>
> My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I
> don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.
>
> If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in
> the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.
>
> Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.
>
> Peter C.
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  9 15:10:20 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805091359g10f6da3cqbe785bee6e20913e@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0805091359g10f6da3cqbe785bee6e20913e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509160816.0358ffb8@nosimport.com>

So,  1475 then?   I even have a cliff nearby. I could save you the 
trouble, just mail the check.
==
At 03:59 PM 5/9/2008, Jim Johnson wrote:
>Geez, Peter!  When I lived in England in the latter half of the 60s my best
>British friend was a sheep farmer and he had one of these things all cut
>down which he used as a tractor type thing around the farm!  Just seeing it
>again brings back fond memories of laying in the mud at 34F with my arm up
>to my shoulder inside some stubborn ewe trying to turn the lamb around for
>birthing. It would almost be worth $1500 to buy it and push it off a
>cliff.....    ;-)
>
>Cheers!!
>Jim
>
>On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring
> > a concrete floor this weekend.
> >
> > Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine
> > example of a 1952 Austin Champ.
> >
> > Google it.
> >
> > Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting
> > outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)
> >
> > It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military
> > collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.
> >
> > My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I
> > don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.
> >
> > If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in
> > the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.
> >
> > Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.
> >
> > Peter C.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May  9 15:14:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 16:14:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0805091359g10f6da3cqbe785bee6e20913e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DFA9D343FA1A44F4B457AF2598C658FB@NilesAD.von.gov>

>> Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine
>> example of a 1952 Austin Champ.

So is this the A90 Austin engine or the B40 Rolls Royce engine?

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  9 15:25:03 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:25:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
In-Reply-To: <DFA9D343FA1A44F4B457AF2598C658FB@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0805091359g10f6da3cqbe785bee6e20913e@mail.gmail.com>
	<DFA9D343FA1A44F4B457AF2598C658FB@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509162338.03791ec0@nosimport.com>

The wonderful B40 flathead 850lb lump with all the submersible goodies on it.

At 04:14 PM 5/9/2008, you wrote:
> >> Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine
> >> example of a 1952 Austin Champ.
>
>So is this the A90 Austin engine or the B40 Rolls Royce engine?

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  9 14:13:41 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 15:13:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509151336.03893070@nosimport.com>

Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring 
a concrete floor this weekend.

Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine 
example of a 1952 Austin Champ.

Google it.

Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting 
outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)

It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military 
collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.

My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I 
don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.

If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in 
the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.

Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.

Peter C. 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May  9 13:25:41 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 14:25:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509141125.03743b70@mailbag.com>

Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring 
a concrete floor this weekend.

Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine 
example of a 1952 Austin Champ.

Google it.

Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting 
outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)

It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military 
collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.

My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I 
don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.

If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in 
the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.

Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.

Peter C. 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May  9 17:47:42 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 17:47:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509141125.03743b70@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c8b22f$13392ba0$6801a8c0@shop>

Better or worse than:

http://www.americandreamcars.com/1952austinchamp.htm

PPP<G>??

LAD

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 17:46:14 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 16:46:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
Message-ID: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>

If this was a boat it would be called "Shipwrights' Disease"...

There I am, trying to figure out why there is a piece of U-channel blocking 
the air hose intake hole on the mud panel...
Then I notice that there is a bent piece of U-channel iron bolted to the inner 
whell arch to the mud-panel - effectively holding the two together..
And then I see the problem...
The DPO has put the LH piece of U-channel on the RH side and vice 
versa...  they are bent differently!!!
So now I have to jack up the front of the car - AGAIN - pull the front wheels 
off, swap the bits of U-channel just so I have space to fit the fresh air 
heater tube!!!

Like the man said.... "It never ends...."

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 19:27:40 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:27:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch/brake pedal question...
Message-ID: <4824979C.8799.26F2DD0@dmg.bossig.com>

There is a lot of 'slop' in the brake and clutch pedals...
I can move them side to side quite a lot...

I can see that there is a lot of free play where the pivot bolt goes through...

There are no diagrams or part references in BritVic or Moss catalogues...

Are they bushed? Part numbers? From who?
If not, cam they be bushed?
Does someone out there have a good brake/clutch pedal assembly they 
would let me have??

Are you guys getting tired of my questions yet???

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri May  9 19:41:16 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 18:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch/brake pedal question...
In-Reply-To: <4824979C.8799.26F2DD0@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4824979C.8799.26F2DD0@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <a920a19770a25cc0a24d60a.20080509184116.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Dave,
     There is supposed to be a bronze bushing pressed into the pivot point
for the pedals.  You can get the bushings from Clarke Spares $
Restoration and Todd Clarke.  Nice guy.  My suggestion is to buy two
of Todd's bushings.  It was a little short for the full length of the
bore where the pivot bolt goes.  Just press one in so it's flush with
one end, then press the other in from the other end until it contacts
the other bushing.  Then cut flush.  You have the added benefit of
being able to paint the pedal box at the same time.  At least that's
the way my Bugeye worked out.  Don't know about the later cars.  Just
Google Clarke's Spares $ Restoration.  Probably the cheapest way to
go about it.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Dave G.
> There is a lot of 'slop' in the brake and clutch pedals...
> I can move them side to side quite a lot...
>
> I can see that there is a lot of free play where the pivot bolt goes
> through...
>
> There are no diagrams or part references in BritVic or Moss catalogues...
>
> Are they bushed? Part numbers? From who?
> If not, cam they be bushed?
> Does someone out there have a good brake/clutch pedal assembly they
> would let me have??
>
> Are you guys getting tired of my questions yet???
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From kvacek at ameritech.net  Fri May  9 19:55:43 2008
From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 20:55:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch/brake pedal question...
References: <4824979C.8799.26F2DD0@dmg.bossig.com>
	<a920a19770a25cc0a24d60a.20080509184116.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <001601c8b240$f5393fc0$4101a8c0@KARL>

Later ones have bronze bushings too.

Karl


>     There is supposed to be a bronze bushing pressed into the pivot point
> for the pedals.  <snip>  At least that's
> the way my Bugeye worked out.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 19:58:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 18:58:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch/brake pedal question...
In-Reply-To: <a920a19770a25cc0a24d60a.20080509184116.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <4824979C.8799.26F2DD0@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<a920a19770a25cc0a24d60a.20080509184116.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <48249ECD.8496.28B43D0@dmg.bossig.com>

Mike,

Thank you for the rapid reply...
I 'googled' them and have sent an email asking for price,etc...
Would you happen to know the size of the pivot bolt??

Thanks again for your kind and fast reply..

Dave...

On 9 May 2008 at 18:41, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

>> Just
>> Google Clarke's Spares $ Restoration.  Probably the cheapest way to go
>> about it.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri May  9 20:01:56 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:01:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something
In-Reply-To: <005101c8b1df$ef945c00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <050920081308.11615.48244CCD000969DD00002D5F2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<005101c8b1df$ef945c00$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <002d01c8b241$d385f890$7a91e9b0$@net>

Actually there are MANY different shades of black... Just depends on how
picky you are ...LOL

Leo

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[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something

> I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores, like

> NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or painted 
> body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the paint. 
> Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have such a 
> scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.

And just how many shades of BLACK do you think there are? Marc has a 1973 
and the engine should NOT be green in it, it should be black ;-) 
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri May  9 20:09:11 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:09:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Always looking (LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <007801c8b20a$0b5fe470$6401a8c0@personal>
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Clarkes Spares..Extremely nice person and easy to deal with.

Leo

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Jack Laird
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:23 PM
To: spridgets net
Subject: [Spridgets] Always looking (LBC content)

For a couple (2) of the clamps for the ends of the heater duct line. They
looked like a 4 inch circle of wire with ears bent into the ends to grab em
and remove or replace.

I'm sure someone has em stuck away. Miss Agatha would appreciate. Name your
price, etc.
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May  9 22:28:03 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 23:28:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>

If he was going to put the bonnet hinges on wrong, why not these brackets as
well.
Who is this HUGE "F" up, who is from Missouri, that you got your "restored"
car from.
 I want to make sure we all are wary of him and his "restored" bits, while
we are at LOTO!!!

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> If this was a boat it would be called "Shipwrights' Disease"...
>
> There I am, trying to figure out why there is a piece of U-channel blocking
> the air hose intake hole on the mud panel...
> Then I notice that there is a bent piece of U-channel iron bolted to the
> inner
> whell arch to the mud-panel - effectively holding the two together..
> And then I see the problem...
> The DPO has put the LH piece of U-channel on the RH side and vice
> versa...  they are bent differently!!!
> So now I have to jack up the front of the car - AGAIN - pull the front
> wheels
> off, swap the bits of U-channel just so I have space to fit the fresh air
> heater tube!!!
>
> Like the man said.... "It never ends...."
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
>
>
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From dmg at bossig.com  Fri May  9 22:56:10 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 09 May 2008 21:56:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4824C87A.29179.32E0DA4@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Brad,

His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton (nr  St Louis)  MO.
He is/was doing business as West Port Auto Center
He also sells "matching number" Detroit muscle cars!!

If you want to see some of the bad stuff on what he sold me as 'restored', and 
what I have been working with, then check out;-

http://tinyurl.com/5gfocx      46 pictures...
(Friends of mine are hosting the pics for me)

The chassis, engine and frame numbers are fake and the registration that came 
with the car was from Kentucky!!

The pictures he used were carefully framed so as to avoid any chance of 
displaying the trouble areas...

I sure hope he keeps away from LOTO.... 



Dave....

On 9 May 2008 at 23:28, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> If he was going to put the bonnet hinges on wrong, why not these
>> brackets as well. Who is this HUGE "F" up, who is from Missouri, that
>> you got your "restored" car from.
>>  I want to make sure we all are wary of him and his "restored" bits,
>>  while we are at LOTO!!!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat May 10 05:49:25 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 06:49:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
In-Reply-To: <00a601c8b22f$13392ba0$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509141125.03743b70@mailbag.com>
	<00a601c8b22f$13392ba0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080510064848.03b69b28@nosimport.com>

Surprisingly similar condition.

At 06:47 PM 5/9/2008, Ed's Shop wrote:
>Better or worse than:
>
>http://www.americandreamcars.com/1952austinchamp.htm

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 10 05:50:25 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 06:50:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <4824C87A.29179.32E0DA4@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
	<4824C87A.29179.32E0DA4@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805100450p568f5facqb77b3392dbf869ec@mail.gmail.com>

If he took advantage of you from a distance, you can imagine that he is
drooling like one of Pavlov's dogs, thinking of ALL OF "US" being in his
state!!!
Speaking of Detroit muscle, I know this isn't the list BUT....
Does anyone know where one could pick up a "dana cone" rear diff for a 1968
GTO?
The theory behind this diff, was that if one tire went to slipping, it
transferred the power to the other tire. I have seen this thing apart
several decades ago, but I settled for a regular diff, to get the car on the
road. Now, thanks to Al Gore, I can ask folks from around the world where to
find one.
Unlike Mark Rabenot, I DO put my car back factory correct, or damn close to
it.
I have MANY photos that have been sent to a certain website master, but that
was months ago, and I have lost faith that they will ever appear. The
original intent was to take some criticism on the engine, whilst it was out
of the car, so that I could make changes before it was installed.
Oh well....

Anyway, we all need to keep our eyes open, and our wallets close, should we
see Mark Rabenot at LOTO. We shouldn't encourage someone that would screw
over a 70 year old man.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY again Dave!!!!

Brad

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 11:56 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> Hi Brad,
>
> His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton (nr  St Louis)  MO.
> He is/was doing business as West Port Auto Center
> He also sells "matching number" Detroit muscle cars!!
>
> If you want to see some of the bad stuff on what he sold me as 'restored',
> and
> what I have been working with, then check out;-
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5gfocx      46 pictures...
> (Friends of mine are hosting the pics for me)
>
> The chassis, engine and frame numbers are fake and the registration that
> came
> with the car was from Kentucky!!
>
> The pictures he used were carefully framed so as to avoid any chance of
> displaying the trouble areas...
>
> I sure hope he keeps away from LOTO....
>
>
>
> Dave....
>
> On 9 May 2008 at 23:28, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> >> If he was going to put the bonnet hinges on wrong, why not these
> >> brackets as well. Who is this HUGE "F" up, who is from Missouri, that
> >> you got your "restored" car from.
> >>  I want to make sure we all are wary of him and his "restored" bits,
> >>  while we are at LOTO!!!
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 05:56:20 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 04:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <4824C87A.29179.32E0DA4@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <586456.31017.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Was this an eBay car?  If it was misrepresented to you there should be recourse through eBay and/or Paypal and/or your Amex card / etc.   Ebay especially does not want this kind of thing to take place as it would tend to cut down on the number of fees they collect.  
   
  If all else fails, a late night visit from a few friends with the head of a horse might help him understand that reparations are in order.  (then again, maybe I've just been living and workng in New York too long...)
   
   - David
  Long Island (but I work in Queens)

  
"Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
  Hi Brad,

His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton (nr St Louis) MO.
He is/was doing business as West Port Auto Center
He also sells "matching number" Detroit muscle cars!!

If you want to see some of the bad stuff on what he sold me as 'restored', and 
what I have been working with, then check out;-

http://tinyurl.com/5gfocx 46 pictures...
(Friends of mine are hosting the pics for me)

The chassis, engine and frame numbers are fake and the registration that came 
with the car was from Kentucky!!

The pictures he used were carefully framed so as to avoid any chance of 
displaying the trouble areas...

I sure hope he keeps away from LOTO.... 



Dave....

On 9 May 2008 at 23:28, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> If he was going to put the bonnet hinges on wrong, why not these
>> brackets as well. Who is this HUGE "F" up, who is from Missouri, that
>> you got your "restored" car from.
>> I want to make sure we all are wary of him and his "restored" bits,
>> while we are at LOTO!!!

--
Dave G. KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 10 06:10:21 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:10:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <586456.31017.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4824C87A.29179.32E0DA4@dmg.bossig.com>
	<586456.31017.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805100510o65b203f0h8d7ca2da04a90fb@mail.gmail.com>

I'm fairly certain that this "man" will turn up at LOTO.
Just like pickpockets work concerts and sporting events, the lure may be too
great to ignore...

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:56 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Was this an eBay car?  If it was misrepresented to you there should be
> recourse through eBay and/or Paypal and/or your Amex card / etc.   Ebay
> especially does not want this kind of thing to take place as it would tend
> to cut down on the number of fees they collect.
>
> If all else fails, a late night visit from a few friends with the head of a
> horse might help him understand that reparations are in order.  (then again,
> maybe I've just been living and workng in New York too long...)
>
>  - David
> Long Island (but I work in Queens)
>
> *"Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>* wrote:
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton (nr St Louis) MO.
> He is/was doing business as West Port Auto Center
> He also sells "matching number" Detroit muscle cars!!
>
> If you want to see some of the bad stuff on what he sold me as 'restored',
> and
> what I have been working with, then check out;-
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5gfocx 46 pictures...
> (Friends of mine are hosting the pics for me)
>
> The chassis, engine and frame numbers are fake and the registration that
> came
> with the car was from Kentucky!!
>
> The pictures he used were carefully framed so as to avoid any chance of
> displaying the trouble areas...
>
> I sure hope he keeps away from LOTO....
>
>
>
> Dave....
>
> On 9 May 2008 at 23:28, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> >> If he was going to put the bonnet hinges on wrong, why not these
> >> brackets as well. Who is this HUGE "F" up, who is from Missouri, that
> >> you got your "restored" car from.
> >> I want to make sure we all are wary of him and his "restored" bits,
> >> while we are at LOTO!!!
>
> --
> Dave G. KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
> Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 06:47:00 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -
Message-ID: <191498.53102.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

...to Dave Grandeffo of the list for the expertise and
guidance on setting up White Trash's suspension
yesterday. Dave also did his best to not blanch at
some of the homebrew mechanics that are part of the
car. Like working with Paul A. or Peter C., Dave sees
things on your car that you don't. In my case it was
several things that should make the car handle a lot
better and increase tire life. Life time I visited
Dave, lap times went down a full second +. Anxious to
see what happens this time. 

And Dave - I forgot the setup sheet on the way out!

Ron


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat May 10 06:51:40 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -
In-Reply-To: <191498.53102.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <191498.53102.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008001c8b29c$99123a10$cb36ae30$@com>

" Dave also did his best to not blanch at
some of the homebrew mechanics that are part of the
car."

Yeah, but he's disinfecting all his tools this AM.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ron Soave
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:47 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -

...to Dave Grandeffo of the list for the expertise and
guidance on setting up White Trash's suspension
yesterday. Dave also did his best to not blanch at
some of the homebrew mechanics that are part of the
car. Like working with Paul A. or Peter C., Dave sees
things on your car that you don't. In my case it was
several things that should make the car handle a lot
better and increase tire life. Life time I visited
Dave, lap times went down a full second +. Anxious to
see what happens this time. 

And Dave - I forgot the setup sheet on the way out!

Ron

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat May 10 06:51:35 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:51:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hangers
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1ABEA2AB22AD44DC8443CBEACB2085A0@Home>

Are bought interior patches like the spring hanger patch and associated rear panel patch normally butted in or lapped?  

I am wondering about the effect on the allignment of the spring bracket, if any as my rear floor has already been doubled with some fairly heavy sheet on the inside, so an interior lap there could be as much as 1/4" high.  An exterior lap would not be so much off.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 06:54:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 05:54:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -
In-Reply-To: <008001c8b29c$99123a10$cb36ae30$@com>
Message-ID: <321591.65573.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, but he's disinfecting all his tools this AM.

WST,

You know my car - "all" means vise grips, a #2
Phillips head, and a 9/16.

Ron


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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat May 10 06:57:32 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:57:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -
In-Reply-To: <321591.65573.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <008001c8b29c$99123a10$cb36ae30$@com>
	<321591.65573.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008601c8b29d$6b133690$4139a3b0$@com>

And a hammer, no doubt.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:55 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Shout out -

--- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, but he's disinfecting all his tools this AM.

WST,

You know my car - "all" means vise grips, a #2
Phillips head, and a 9/16.

Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat May 10 07:36:34 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:36:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out -
References: <008001c8b29c$99123a10$cb36ae30$@com><321591.65573.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<008601c8b29d$6b133690$4139a3b0$@com>
Message-ID: <02a301c8b2a2$dd927c30$0201a8c0@midget>

> And a hammer, no doubt.

Flounder,
I wish you would learn the proper names for tools. That is not a "hammer", 
it is a "tool for fine adjustments". The proper philosophy for its use being 
"Never use force, just get a bigger tool for fine adjustments." Very useful 
for those "If it ain't broke, fix it till it is" situations.

I just hope this does not motivate someone to post an unattributed copy of 
Peter Egans ubiquitous automotive tool list... 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat May 10 07:42:26 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:42:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
Message-ID: <051020081342.22710.4825A64200047032000058B62215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Our local NAPA store has one--they do a big business in Auto paint.    Wouldn't suggest not trying.   8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
> I very seriously doubt that you will find that scanner at a NAPA store,
> since paint is nowhere near to being a specialty for them.  Best bet is
> an auto body paint & supply store (the store that the body shops buy
> their paint & supplies from).  Also, I wouldn't recommend buying any
> autobody refinishing products from NAPA, as their paint product line is
> geared more toward the shade tree "mechanic", and may only give you
> mediocre results.  On the other hand, a professional autobody paint
> store will have exactly the right product for you to achieve the best
> results.  They are also far more likely to have people behind the
> counter who can give you professional, experience-based advice on how to
> apply the coatings & products they sell.
> Bud Osbourne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> dlancer7676 at comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:08 AM
> To: Marc; Glen Byrns
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something
> 
> 
> Marc:
> 
> I have never done this, but I understand that some auto paint stores,
> like NAPA, have computerized scanners that will scan a paint chip or
> painted body part and come up with the specific formula for matching the
> paint.  Check it out at your local NAPA store to see whether they have
> such a scanner.  Maybe some listers have experience with that.
> 
> --DAvid C.
> "Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter."
> -- Anonymous

From wallstreetlen at hotmail.com  Sat May 10 08:34:51 2008
From: wallstreetlen at hotmail.com (Len Hansen)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 07:34:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU104-DS11F80534B54F994358D93BFD20@phx.gbl>

I have subscribed to the mailing list. I was informed about this site by Bill
Gilroy from
NJ.  I am having trouble finding the home pageS, please advise. Len Hansen

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 10 08:45:45 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 08:45:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <BLU104-DS11F80534B54F994358D93BFD20@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU104-DS11F80534B54F994358D93BFD20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805100745j5b95dd6rf044ce537cf304c8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
The homepage, as such, is here: http://www.team.net/
>From there, you go to autox.  This is a mail list so everything good
comes via email.  If you like 10-20 emails per day, subscribe to the
list.  If you want one long, condensed email every day or so, then
subscribe to the digest.  There is no better group of people on the
net.  If you like Spridgets, welcome home.
The archives are full of good info, but, most people just pose a
question or comment and the topic is fully covered, then everyone
digresses, and it ends up being about cats or politics or guns or
something.  If you are uptight, like many listers, then you will want
to use your delete key liberally.   If you don't mind banter, humor,
and wit, then the digressions are like fresh air in a stuffy
cyberworld.
Cheers,
Derf

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Sat May 10 10:51:24 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:51:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
Message-ID: <202461.1210438284594.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99>

---- Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote: 
I'm fairly certain that this "man" will turn up at LOTO. Just like pickpockets work concerts and sporting events, the lure may be too great to ignore...

Can you say "blanket party"?

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 10 11:05:48 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:05:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <202461.1210438284594.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99>
References: <202461.1210438284594.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805101005j411e2d18oae3a8907e93fa3de@mail.gmail.com>

If you can find the link that Dave provided, go look at the abortion Dave
bought, as a "restored" car.
Staged photos, to hide the faults, were Dave's downfall.

Brad

Hell, a blanket, with water close by.........
hmmm

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, <bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com> wrote:

> ---- Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm fairly certain that this "man" will turn up at LOTO. Just like
> pickpockets work concerts and sporting events, the lure may be too great to
> ignore...
>
> Can you say "blanket party"?
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest
> acquisition
> 1973 Midget
>
> PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?
> _______________________________________________
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sat May 10 12:26:00 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:26:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new car in the stable
Message-ID: <000601c8b2cb$4c6cc0c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

My oh my, what have I done?  It was too good to pass up.  The handshake deal
will hold until the replacement pink slip shows up.  $1K for what you see
below.  NO rust to be seen.  Very solid and clean underneath.  3 into 1
header, hanging open, no pipe.  Rear arches cut and bondo-flared to hold more
rubber. Two extra intake manifolds, four extra carbs, extra ribcase, pair of
Mikuni carbs.  Silly DPO things under bonnet, but no biggy.  The fiberglass
bonnet has a few cracks and is very poorly aligned for now, but should be a
piece of cake for an old kayak builder like myself.  Needs grill and top bows
at the very least.  And the velour interior will be short lived.

http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/Glen_B/MkIII/

It will have to wait until after Missouri and my wife's Traveler's paint job,
but next spring.................

Glen Byrns

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat May 10 12:35:27 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:35:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A relative of the Tin-Worm ??
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805101005j411e2d18oae3a8907e93fa3de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <202461.1210438284594.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99>,
	<e98d88090805101005j411e2d18oae3a8907e93fa3de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4825887F.19019.F90506@dmg.bossig.com>

Folks,

I do appreciate everybodys sentiments and comments...
 
Here's what I basically learned after a year of spending $$$ (that I could ill 
afford) on Attorneys' and legal stuff, etc., and getting nowhere...

If there is any mention or wording in the ad or by the seller to the effect of
"... as this is old and is therefore 'as is'....", or
"... due to it's age, I cannot give a warranty.." , etc...
or something like that..  then the item description isn't worth a hoot... 

I just wish I knew about this great list and its members *before* I bought the 
beast...

Anyway, the main intent of my email is to make sure that nobody else on 
the list, or their friends and acquaintances, gets 'taken' by this chappie...

BTW Brad... Thanks for the birthday wishes  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 10 12:38:50 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new car in the stable
Message-ID: <000b01c8b2cd$187527b0$7103f204@spider>

Looks good; drive it home. ...bill

===============================================

 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:26 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] new car in the stable

 

My oh my, what have I done?  It was too good to pass up.  The handshake deal

will hold until the replacement pink slip shows up.  $1K for what you see

below.  NO rust to be seen.  Very solid and clean underneath.  3 into 1

header, hanging open, no pipe.  Rear arches cut and bondo-flared to hold
more

rubber. Two extra intake manifolds, four extra carbs, extra ribcase, pair of

Mikuni carbs.  Silly DPO things under bonnet, but no biggy.  The fiberglass

bonnet has a few cracks and is very poorly aligned for now, but should be a

piece of cake for an old kayak builder like myself.  Needs grill and top
bows

at the very least.  And the velour interior will be short lived.

 

HYPERLINK
"http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/Glen_B/MkIII"http://s157.photobucket
.com/albums/t48/Glen_B/MkIII

 

It will have to wait until after Missouri and my wife's Traveler's paint
job,

but next spring.................

 

Glen Byrns

_______________________________________________

 

 


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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 10 13:02:06 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:02:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new car in the stable
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b2cb$4c6cc0c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <000601c8b2cb$4c6cc0c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <1551198301.20080510120206@pacifier.com>

Hello Glen,

     looks like a fair deal to both parties... he's delighted to get a
     grand for that mess, you're delighted to get that much car for
     only $1K!..

     SCORE!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Hey! Who took the cork off my lunch? 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat May 10 13:53:41 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:53:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hangers
Message-ID: <D5A18BD2F35948D8A61C01520DB205CB@Home>

I am advised by this group to scrap my tub and start over.  Any RWA tubs out there in good condition?  Bonnet and front fenders not required, as I have ordered a fiberglass BE bonnet.

As an alternative path, does anyone have experience cutting and fitting a fiberglass BE rear clip to a SWA tub?  There is one example at
http://franken-sprite.co.uk/images/1/index1.htm which leaves the soft top in place.  Fitting looks fiddly.

Somehow, I only manage to smell it after I have already tracked it into the room.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 10 14:27:43 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:27:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hangers
In-Reply-To: <D5A18BD2F35948D8A61C01520DB205CB@Home>
References: <D5A18BD2F35948D8A61C01520DB205CB@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805101327j51abd0d3ubd1bcc3ce52bf0f0@mail.gmail.com>

If you really want a BE, it is best to start with a BE.  By the time
you get finished changing everything, you could have a nice, real BE.
If you are patient and wise, you can find a BE project.
Unless you don't like the 1/4 elip springs, then carry on.  Even then,
though, it is probably wiser to start with a BE and do some mods.

From smarc at smarc.net  Sat May 10 15:35:17 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 17:35:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Grounding
Message-ID: <48261515.7080305@smarc.net>

I have my new main harness installed, hooked up a battery charger on 2 
amp setting, and proceeded to check out various circuits to see how I 
did.  The dashboard is NOT installed yet.

Hazard lights - OK
Turn signals - OK
Headlights _ OK
Headlight DIP switch - OK
Headlamp brights - OK
Brake lights - OK
Reverse Lights - (still gotta get under the car)
Wipers - NO
Washer Pump - NO

The problem with the wipers and washers is resolved by clipping a jumper 
lead from ground to any of the exposed grounds on the harness, for 
example, I simply clipped onto the ground from an instrument bulb. So, I 
went looking for ground connections that weren't installed, or not 
tight, etc...

The only ground connection from the main harness is under the bonnet at 
the right front of the car. It's clean, tight, and has zero resistance. 
Checked, verified, added additional jumper to ground - no improvement.

Now I'm thinking the rest of the ground is supplied when the dash is 
bolted in, and all the bulb holders are snapped in... I think I will add 
a solid ground anyway... Seems like a good idea...

-- 

Marc

From smarc at smarc.net  Sat May 10 15:42:21 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 17:42:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Grounding
In-Reply-To: <48261515.7080305@smarc.net>
References: <48261515.7080305@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <482616BD.5050401@smarc.net>

Well, got a cold drink, and a bright light, and "Hey! Look at that!" 
found my missing ground. Ith's the big one next to the fusebox... Doh!

Marc



Marc wrote:
> I have my new main harness installed, hooked up a battery charger on 2 
> amp setting, and proceeded to check out various circuits to see how I 
> did.  The dashboard is NOT installed yet.
>
> Hazard lights - OK
> Turn signals - OK
> Headlights _ OK
> Headlight DIP switch - OK
> Headlamp brights - OK
> Brake lights - OK
> Reverse Lights - (still gotta get under the car)
> Wipers - NO
> Washer Pump - NO
>
> The problem with the wipers and washers is resolved by clipping a jumper 
> lead from ground to any of the exposed grounds on the harness, for 
> example, I simply clipped onto the ground from an instrument bulb. So, I 
> went looking for ground connections that weren't installed, or not 
> tight, etc...
>
> The only ground connection from the main harness is under the bonnet at 
> the right front of the car. It's clean, tight, and has zero resistance. 
> Checked, verified, added additional jumper to ground - no improvement.
>
> Now I'm thinking the rest of the ground is supplied when the dash is 
> bolted in, and all the bulb holders are snapped in... I think I will add 
> a solid ground anyway... Seems like a good idea...

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 10 16:38:44 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:38:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Watch out for those Roscoe, IL drivers
Message-ID: <482623F4.7000604@comcast.net>

*http://tinyurl.com/6ej6fc*

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 10 16:55:31 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:55:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ozarks grille badge installed 2 ways
Message-ID: <482627E3.3050306@comcast.net>

http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto3.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto4.jpg

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 10 18:13:08 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:13:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ozarks grille badge installed 2 ways
References: <482627E3.3050306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <019101c8b2fb$cad96780$6801a8c0@shop>

# 1 !!!!

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat May 10 18:02:31 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:02:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <051020081342.22710.4825A64200047032000058B62215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000601c8b2fa$4f7fc1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Wow.  That's the first time I've ever heard of a NAPA store doing more
than a very small amount of paint business.  That's just unheard of,
where I live (as well as other regions I've lived in).  Live & learn, I
guess.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net [mailto:dlancer7676 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:42 AM
To: Bud Osbourne; 'Marc'; 'Glen Byrns'
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] It's always something*

Our local NAPA store has one--they do a big business in Auto paint.
Wouldn't suggest not trying.   8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter."
-- Anonymous

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 10 17:55:46 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Watch out for those Roscoe, IL drivers
In-Reply-To: <482623F4.7000604@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <485409.20972.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mess with us and we will mess with you in the house of
pain.

Ron
Roscoe, IL
2nd fastest racecar on the block

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> *http://tinyurl.com/6ej6fc*
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ


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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 10 18:05:49 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:05:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b2fa$4f7fc1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <051020081342.22710.4825A64200047032000058B62215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<000601c8b2fa$4f7fc1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805101705v19eac7b1k25a38cd6c18770ea@mail.gmail.com>

Our NAPA is referred to as Never Any Parts Available, as they ALWAYS have to
order anything in...

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Wow.  That's the first time I've ever heard of a NAPA store doing more
> than a very small amount of paint business.  That's just unheard of,
> where I live (as well as other regions I've lived in).  Live & learn, I
> guess.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net [mailto:dlancer7676 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:42 AM
> To: Bud Osbourne; 'Marc'; 'Glen Byrns'
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] It's always something*
>
> Our local NAPA store has one--they do a big business in Auto paint.
> Wouldn't suggest not trying.   8^)
>
> --David C.
> "Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter."
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 10 19:25:24 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:25:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
References: <000601c8b2fa$4f7fc1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <003601c8b305$f27cc250$6801a8c0@shop>

<<That's just unheard of, where I live (as well as other regions I've lived in).>>

Yeah Bud, BUT David lives in Tennseltucky!!!

There you only have two choises;

NAPA or the closest bootlegger!!!!!

<VBG>

Anon

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat May 10 19:40:07 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 01:40:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
Message-ID: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I went to pick up a car for my son's ex-significant other today.  We gave her the car, a '97 Pontiac Grand Am into which I had just installed a 24 K engine, about 3 years ago.  She lost her job, then her home, and then had car trouble that she described as a smashed catalytic converter.  So she took the car to this sloppy, greasy, redneck Tennesee slopbucket of a shade tree mechanic.  He then, after he claimed to have fixed the car, quoted her a $500 charge for fixing it, which obviously she could not afford to pay.  We got our lawyer involved who convinced the slopbucket to let her have the car for $200.   He says he is going to hold her to the extra $300.   When I arrived at his property, back a few backcountry lanes--kind of a Deliverance kind of place (didn't hear banjo music so I figured we were ok), we knocked and knocked and finally he came to the door, opened it, and shot a stream of tobacco juice past us onto the ground.  I told him we were here to pick up the car and gave
 him the $200, whereupon he grumpily gave me the key.

I asked him what he had done to the car.  He grunted and mumbled that he had put in a new coil and new plug wires and couldn't remember what else he had done to the car.  He said he had checked out the catalytic converter. I asked him if he had installed a new one and he said "No, they cost too much money."  As I drove the car away, I noted that the exhaust system was dragging the center hump of his land and the brakes felt soft.  So he checked the converter but couldn't get the exhaust system hooked back up properly.

With a SOB like this taking advantage of people in need is it any wonder that mechanics have almost as bad a rap as bankers.  I advised the young lady that if the predator attempted to collect any more money from her that she should immediately call our lawyer.

Just thought I would pass along this car story to you guys.   8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 10 19:46:49 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:46:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
Message-ID: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net>

I am currently running 195/60 x 13s on my 59, they are just too wide, 
and are 5 years old now so before I drive out to Missouri, I want new 
sneakers on the Sprite.
What do you guys recommend for *spirited* driving habits?
I am not worried about tread wear as I will replace them again in 5 or 6 
years way before they wear out. I have learned that tires over 5 years 
old just don't cut it like they used to.
I replaced the 4 year old tires on my wife's Jag, 18000 miles on them 
and they looked almost new but they aged out.
I think I want a 175/70 like all the rest of my Sprites, I have 
sumitomos or whatever jap tires on 1 of them, I forget what's on the 58, 
but those cars are put put cars, I want a nice stickem to the road, go 
around a corner at 90 mph type of tire ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat May 10 19:47:14 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 20:47:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
References: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <02f801c8b308$f06106e0$0201a8c0@midget>

Thank you, David. It is stories like these that help me remember why I 
prefer to work on my cars myself. Just replaced the EGR valve on my GTi. 
What a pain! Had to pull the front bumper off and unbolt the cross-beam 
behind it just to get at the bolt that holds it in place. Since there are 
multiple possible causes for the infamous P0411 code on this car, I couldn't 
even order the parts until I had pulled it out. Sure is nice to be rid of 
the CEL, however. Even nicer to know that the part really was bad (diaphragm 
shot) and that someone wasn't just shooting in the dark.
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 10 20:21:55 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
In-Reply-To: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net>
References: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

       lately, it seems, finding tires for spirited driving in 13"
       diamter is HARD... about the only cars still using them instead
       of the rubber bands on spokes are economy cars, so most of what
       is available is very hard compound. 50k to 80k rubber....

       i've got 175/70s on my SWA. Cooper Cobras. but i think they are
       no longer made. Same with BF Goodrich tires in that size, or
       ANY 13s from them...

       let US know what you can FIND, let alone decide upon.

       the only performance tires i find at tirerack.com for
       perfomance driving instead of all season tires are

       Sumitomo HTR 200

       tho i believe that falken makes a 175/60 13... ?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  There IS intelligent life in the universe... It ignores us... 

From wallstreetlen at hotmail.com  Sat May 10 20:23:19 2008
From: wallstreetlen at hotmail.com (Len Hansen)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:23:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
Message-ID: <BLU104-DS7447DBA4A03F00DF7F31BBFCD0@phx.gbl>

Wow, how the heck do you get the tie rod ends off the steering arms?  I have
bent a 8" C-clamp.  If I hit it any harder I will bugger up the treads on the
dang thing.  HELP!!!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 10 20:30:13 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:30:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <BLU104-DS7447DBA4A03F00DF7F31BBFCD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU104-DS7447DBA4A03F00DF7F31BBFCD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48265A35.4020403@comcast.net>

Len Hansen wrote:
> Wow, how the heck do you get the tie rod ends off the steering arms?  
A ball joint fork works great but if you don't have one, I have heard 
but never tried the smack both sides of the arm with 2 hammers at the 
same time. This shocks the arm enough to release the tie rod end.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat May 10 20:33:53 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:33:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <48265A35.4020403@comcast.net>
References: <BLU104-DS7447DBA4A03F00DF7F31BBFCD0@phx.gbl>,
	<48265A35.4020403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4825F8A1.10420.2AF0AA1@dmg.bossig.com>

Like Frank says...
But I've held a hammer to one side and hit it with another hammer hard on 
the other side...
It helps if you have a lovely assistant to hold a pry bar between the rod and 
the arm...
It helps you... not the tie-rod...

On 10 May 2008 at 22:30, Frank Clarici wrote:
>> I have heard 
>> but never tried the smack both sides of the arm with 2 hammers at the
>> same time. This shocks the arm enough to release the tie rod end.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat May 10 20:52:02 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:52:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <003601c8b305$f27cc250$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <000d01c8b311$fdb877c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

I confess to never having lived in that region, but I've heard similar
reports about beer, in the South: Bud/Bud Light or Miller/Miller Light.
Faced with only two choices of beer (and "kid beer", at that); I'd never
last down there ;)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:25 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something*

<<That's just unheard of, where I live (as well as other regions I've
lived in).>>

Yeah Bud, BUT David lives in Tennseltucky!!!

There you only have two choises;

NAPA or the closest bootlegger!!!!!

<VBG>

Anon
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From abcoz at hky.com  Sat May 10 21:02:43 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:02:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <48265A35.4020403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c8b313$7b9b8780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

You heard right, Frank.  It works, and surprisingly well.  But you only
hit it with one hammer.  The other hammer is held tightly against the
opposite side of the one you're hitting.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:30 PM
To: Len Hansen
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

Len Hansen wrote:
> Wow, how the heck do you get the tie rod ends off the steering arms?  
A ball joint fork works great but if you don't have one, I have heard 
but never tried the smack both sides of the arm with 2 hammers at the 
same time. This shocks the arm enough to release the tie rod end.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat May 10 20:54:39 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
References: <000e01c8b313$7b9b8780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <032101c8b312$5b41a0b0$0201a8c0@midget>

> You heard right, Frank.  It works, and surprisingly well.  But you only
> hit it with one hammer.  The other hammer is held tightly against the
> opposite side of the one you're hitting.

Or you simply hit it smartly in line with the steering arm with a 1-pound 
ballpeen hammer and watch in amaze as the TRE drops nicely out of place. 

From RampantNM at aol.com  Sat May 10 20:56:27 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:56:27 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 52 Austin Champ
Message-ID: <c0a.35c646ba.3557ba5b@aol.com>

In a message dated 5/9/2008 7:59:13 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

1952  Austin Champ.
 
More rust than this one  Peter?



_http://www.americandreamcars.com/1952austinchamp.htm_ 
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Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

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carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for experienced 
hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected and 
adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.



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From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 10 22:20:03 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:20:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
References: <000d01c8b311$fdb877c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <001101c8b31e$49803970$6801a8c0@shop>

<<but I've heard similar reports about beer, in the South: Bud/Bud Light or Miller/Miller Light.  Faced with only two choices of beer (and "kid beer", at that); >>

Can you say that you are within FIVE pounds of the weight you graduated (oops, did you bud??<G>) HIGH School!!!!

<<I'd never last down there ;)>>

After "reading" you for the past years trust me, 
TRUER words have NEVER been spoke(typed)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat May 10 22:40:01 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
In-Reply-To: <598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
References: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net>
	<598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <a50a18d8a24e0a25f8a.20080510214001.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Tire Rack also sells the Yokohama Avid series in 13"  Somewhat of a
performance tire.  I'm happy with mine anyway.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Bill L
> Hello Frank,
>
>        lately, it seems, finding tires for spirited driving in 13"
>        diamter is HARD... about the only cars still using them instead
>        of the rubber bands on spokes are economy cars, so most of what
>        is available is very hard compound. 50k to 80k rubber....
>
>        i've got 175/70s on my SWA. Cooper Cobras. but i think they are
>        no longer made. Same with BF Goodrich tires in that size, or
>        ANY 13s from them...
>
>        let US know what you can FIND, let alone decide upon.
>
>        the only performance tires i find at tirerack.com for
>        perfomance driving instead of all season tires are
>
>        Sumitomo HTR 200
>
>        tho i believe that falken makes a 175/60 13... ?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>   There IS intelligent life in the universe... It ignores us...
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From hal at katemuir.com  Sat May 10 23:55:39 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 22:55:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <032101c8b312$5b41a0b0$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEAEHAAA.hal@katemuir.com>

At the Buster Cluster Peter C. amazed me with exactly this technique!  One
good rap with the hammer and, voila!  I won't say it's the slickest thing
I've ever seen, but it was damn amazing.

Hal

.... simply hit it smartly in line with the steering arm with a 1-pound
ballpeen hammer and watch in amaze as the TRE drops nicely out of place.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May 11 00:08:54 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 23:08:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
In-Reply-To: <598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <C44BDB86.15FB9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Sumitomo HTR 200
I run them on my CRX, and I'm happy with them.
I'm very picky about tires, and you're absolutely right about most of them
being too hard.  Those high mileage tires are really dangerous on a light
car.
BZ

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sun May 11 01:54:40 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:54:40 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEAEHAAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

The reason this works so well isn't by magic, though it looks like it!

The pin is tapered and fits into the matching tapered hole in the steering
arm. The steel of the steering arm has a very slight degree of elasticity.
Well, I think all steel has. When hit with a BFH it compresses momentarily,
and then bounces back and at that instant the hole in the steering arm gets
fractionally bigger and it lets go.  Hitting in line with the steering arm
works. Two hammers works well if you time them to impact at exactly the
right moment and diagonally opposite each other. One hammer held whilst
hitting with the second works, but only produces half of the "bounce" and
may not release the pin so easily.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Hal Faulkner
Sent: 11 May 2008 06:56
To: David Lieb; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

At the Buster Cluster Peter C. amazed me with exactly this technique!  One
good rap with the hammer and, voila!  I won't say it's the slickest thing
I've ever seen, but it was damn amazing.

Hal

.... simply hit it smartly in line with the steering arm with a 1-pound
ballpeen hammer and watch in amaze as the TRE drops nicely out of place.
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sun May 11 02:01:53 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:01:53 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <002201c8b33d$46c6cdb0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

AND,
 by the same reason hitting on the end of the pin, apart from damaging the
thread, is not likely to work as the impact shortens and then swells the pin
and it sticks even tighter!


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Guy Weller
Sent: 11 May 2008 08:55
To: 'Hal Faulkner'; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

The reason this works so well isn't by magic, though it looks like it!

The pin is tapered and fits into the matching tapered hole in the steering
arm. The steel of the steering arm has a very slight degree of elasticity.
Well, I think all steel has. When hit with a BFH it compresses momentarily,
and then bounces back and at that instant the hole in the steering arm gets
fractionally bigger and it lets go.  Hitting in line with the steering arm
works. Two hammers works well if you time them to impact at exactly the
right moment and diagonally opposite each other. One hammer held whilst
hitting with the second works, but only produces half of the "bounce" and
may not release the pin so easily.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Hal Faulkner
Sent: 11 May 2008 06:56
To: David Lieb; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

At the Buster Cluster Peter C. amazed me with exactly this technique!  One
good rap with the hammer and, voila!  I won't say it's the slickest thing
I've ever seen, but it was damn amazing.

Hal

.... simply hit it smartly in line with the steering arm with a 1-pound
ballpeen hammer and watch in amaze as the TRE drops nicely out of place.
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun May 11 05:32:40 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 04:32:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
Message-ID: <402401c8b35a$b8aa0d80$116a010a@mail2world.com>

One thing that always helps me out is to have the suspension somewhere
near ride height. There's less strain on the TRE joint than when it's at
full droop. Just put a jack under the fulcrum pin and raise it up a bit.
 
Hope this helps.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Dave G. [dmg at bossig.com]
Sent: 5/10/2008 10:34:53 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal? 

Like Frank says... 
But I've held a hammer to one side and hit it with another hammer hard
on 
the other side... 
It helps if you have a lovely assistant to hold a pry bar between the
rod and 
the arm... 
It helps you... not the tie-rod... 

On 10 May 2008 at 22:30, Frank Clarici wrote: 
>> I have heard 
>> but never tried the smack both sides of the arm with 2 hammers at the
>> same time. This shocks the arm enough to release the tie rod end. 

--

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun May 11 05:37:04 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 04:37:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
Message-ID: <7ae901c8b35b$56040900$056a010a@mail2world.com>

Frank, those are the tires on My Midget as well, and those are the ones
you have on the '67. Best bet from what's available. They'll probably
also go on my Cosworth (in 205/60/13 size) when it needs tires, assuming
they don't discontinue them in the meantime...
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Billy Zoom [billyzoom at billyzoom.com]
Sent: 5/11/2008 2:09:54 AM
To: pythias at pacifier.com;spritenut at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What tires do I want? 

> Sumitomo HTR 200 
I run them on my CRX, and I'm happy with them. 
I'm very picky about tires, and you're absolutely right about most of
them 
being too hard. Those high mileage tires are really dangerous on a light
car. 
BZ 
_______________________________________________ 

. 

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun May 11 05:45:02 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 07:45:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
In-Reply-To: <598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
References: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net>
	<598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <70BA391A-AB6B-423E-9C55-27B17000DBE4@phillymgclub.com>

I have Michelin X-One's on my car. 175/70's and I know they do not  
make those anymore. But they are pretty grippy.

Larry

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

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lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.



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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun May 11 07:09:32 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:09:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
Message-ID: <051120081309.9944.4826F00C000507A6000026D82216527966C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Yep David--I was telling my wife on the way home from that escapade that this is the very reason why I do all my  own building, drywalling, electric, plumbing, general fixing and as much car repair as I can.  There are too many shysters out there in all of the crafts and mechanics fields.  But again, don't get me started on bankers either. LOL

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> Thank you, David. It is stories like these that help me remember why I 
> prefer to work on my cars myself. Just replaced the EGR valve on my GTi. 
> What a pain! Had to pull the front bumper off and unbolt the cross-beam 
> behind it just to get at the bolt that holds it in place. Since there are 
> multiple possible causes for the infamous P0411 code on this car, I couldn't 
> even order the parts until I had pulled it out. Sure is nice to be rid of 
> the CEL, however. Even nicer to know that the part really was bad (diaphragm 
> shot) and that someone wasn't just shooting in the dark.
> David Lieb 
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From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Sun May 11 07:20:47 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:20:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11992.1210472579.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11992.1210472579.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <5B8D04B5-6A5D-4881-83FA-52C4E0F17F73@dartmouth.edu>

On May 10, 2008, at 10:22 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Wow, how the heck do you get the tie rod ends off the steering  
> arms?  I have
> bent a 8" C-clamp.  If I hit it any harder I will bugger up the  
> treads on the
> dang thing.  HELP!!!

I use a modified (forged the ends slightly smaller) tie rod fork and a  
BFH. I usually replace with new whenever I remove tie rod ends, though  
the same process should be okay if you are careful.

-m

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun May 11 07:25:25 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:25:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>

Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to get a 
new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering arm was 
bent out of round by this technique.

Michael Rowe
'74 Surprise
Long Island, NY

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May 11 09:01:10 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 08:01:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>
Message-ID: <294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.  Why not try
using the correct tool for removal, such as a ball joint splitting tool:  
     http://tinyurl.com/4bdpyz
Not cheap like a hammer, but you'll use it many times without tearing up
the rubber boot on the tie rod end like a pickle fork does.  Who doesn't
like buying new tools?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Michael Rowe
> Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to get
> a
> new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering arm
> was
> bent out of round by this technique.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Surprise
> Long Island, NY
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun May 11 09:24:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:24:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN><21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>
	<294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <035801c8b37b$207fb9d0$0201a8c0@midget>

>I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.

A couple smart raps with a 1-pound ballpeen hammer does not begin to compare 
with the hammering my front suspension gets from Chicago potholes! 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun May 11 09:50:36 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:50:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] TinyURL NMC
Message-ID: <036b01c8b37e$c1b05870$0201a8c0@midget>

I was just at tinyurl.com and saw that they have a "preview feature" which 
adds a cookie to your browser, such that clicking on a tinyurl will take you 
to www.tinyurl.com and tell you where the tinyurl is trying to send you. It 
is good to be a little cautious... 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun May 11 11:52:55 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 10:52:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
In-Reply-To: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48273277.4030805@frontiernet.net>

I had a similar experience a number of years ago.  My ex (Thank God!!!) 
husband had bought me a 1976, 6 cylinder, fuel injected Datsun as part 
of our pending divorce agreement, which he didn't yet know about.  We 
took it to the Datsun dealer, clearly explaining that it wouldn't start 
in the morning, and left it there all day while I went to work. $300 and 
eight hours later, they claimed to have given it a complete tuneup, and 
all was now fine.  The next morning it wouldn't start, so I took it 
back.  They again had the car all day.  I picked it up after work and 
was assured that the same mechanic had checked the car again, and 
everything was exactly as it should be.  The next morning it still 
wouldn't start, so I opened the hood and took  good look.  There was a 
crack right on the top of the coil wire boot that was over an inch long 
and plainly visible to anyone who had looked.  All the spark plug wires 
were arcing like Mt. St. Helens on her better days.  I went back to the 
Datsun dealer, and the service manager very condescendingly said, "Mrs. 
Brady (Not for long, Roach!), my best technician has done a complete 
tuneup on your car, and at the very least it needs some serious 
carburetor work, probably a new carburetor.  I drew myself up to the 
full extent allowed by my four inch stilettos, and roared back, "You 
simple SOB!  you've had my car for three whole days and claim to have 
worked on it, but you don't even know that it doesn't HAVE a 
carburetor?  Secondly, there is no way your so called technician could 
have given it a tuneup. If he had gotten close enough to it with a 
screwdriver to try to adjust the timing, he would have been knocked 
through the back wall. Every one of the ignition wires is completely 
shot. I want my money back, and I want it back NOW!"  Three other 
customers who were waiting in line left when I did.  The most 
satisfaction I got out of the entire incident was having both my future 
ex, who had thus far handled everything, and the condescending service 
manager look like they wanted to crawl into a hole in the floor. I then 
fully alienated the ex by parking right in front of the office and, 
dressed in a business suit and heels, proceeded to do a tuneup right on 
Main Street.  Surprisingly, it started the next morning.

Kate
>   He then, after he claimed to have fixed the car, quoted her a $500 charge for fixing it, 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun May 11 11:57:29 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:57:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
Message-ID: <051120081757.12233.482733890008D2B100002FC92216527966C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Good for you Kate!  Dealerships are another bit of real estate I keep my cars out of.   8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> I had a similar experience a number of years ago.  My ex (Thank God!!!) 
> husband had bought me a 1976, 6 cylinder, fuel injected Datsun as part 
> of our pending divorce agreement, which he didn't yet know about.  We 
> took it to the Datsun dealer, clearly explaining that it wouldn't start 
> in the morning, and left it there all day while I went to work. $300 and 
> eight hours later, they claimed to have given it a complete tuneup, and 
> all was now fine.  The next morning it wouldn't start, so I took it 
> back.  They again had the car all day.  I picked it up after work and 
> was assured that the same mechanic had checked the car again, and 
> everything was exactly as it should be.  The next morning it still 
> wouldn't start, so I opened the hood and took  good look.  There was a 
> crack right on the top of the coil wire boot that was over an inch long 
> and plainly visible to anyone who had looked.  All the spark plug wires 
> were arcing like Mt. St. Helens on her better days.  I went back to the 
> Datsun dealer, and the service manager very condescendingly said, "Mrs. 
> Brady (Not for long, Roach!), my best technician has done a complete 
> tuneup on your car, and at the very least it needs some serious 
> carburetor work, probably a new carburetor.  I drew myself up to the 
> full extent allowed by my four inch stilettos, and roared back, "You 
> simple SOB!  you've had my car for three whole days and claim to have 
> worked on it, but you don't even know that it doesn't HAVE a 
> carburetor?  Secondly, there is no way your so called technician could 
> have given it a tuneup. If he had gotten close enough to it with a 
> screwdriver to try to adjust the timing, he would have been knocked 
> through the back wall. Every one of the ignition wires is completely 
> shot. I want my money back, and I want it back NOW!"  Three other 
> customers who were waiting in line left when I did.  The most 
> satisfaction I got out of the entire incident was having both my future 
> ex, who had thus far handled everything, and the condescending service 
> manager look like they wanted to crawl into a hole in the floor. I then 
> fully alienated the ex by parking right in front of the office and, 
> dressed in a business suit and heels, proceeded to do a tuneup right on 
> Main Street.  Surprisingly, it started the next morning.
> 
> Kate
> >   He then, after he claimed to have fixed the car, quoted her a $500 charge 
> for fixing it, 
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun May 11 12:08:17 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 13:08:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
References: <C44BDB86.15FB9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <054901c8b391$fdb73010$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>; "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?


> Sumitomo HTR 200
I run them on my CRX, and I'm happy with them.
I'm very picky about tires, and you're absolutely right about most of them
being too hard.  Those high mileage tires are really dangerous on a light
car.
BZ
_______________________________________________

Speaking of the HTR 200s, I have a brand new set of them in a 175/50-13 that 
I don't need.  Tire Rack lists them at $48 ea.

Make a ridiculous offer, add shipping and they are yours.

LAD
Oshkosh, WI 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May 11 12:18:55 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:18:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
In-Reply-To: <48273277.4030805@frontiernet.net>
References: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>,
	<48273277.4030805@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4826D61F.4437.F54687@dmg.bossig.com>

Kate,

GREAT Story... I loved every line of it...
Especially the last two lines  <GRIN>

BTW - I sure don't want you to get mad at me   8^) 

Dave G.

On 11 May 2008 at 10:52, Kathryn Bales wrote:

>>  I then 
>> fully alienated the ex by parking right in front of the office and,
>> dressed in a business suit and heels, proceeded to do a tuneup right
>> on Main Street.  Surprisingly, it started the next morning.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun May 11 12:55:46 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 11:55:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tennessee Shyster--No LBC
In-Reply-To: <4826D61F.4437.F54687@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <051120080140.14939.48264E77000CDCDD00003A5B2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>,
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	<4826D61F.4437.F54687@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48274132.40406@frontiernet.net>

I don't get mad easily.  The last time I got thoroughly ticked off, 
aside from the day that Gary died, was when I was looking for a 
Cherokee, so I could carry more passengers than my Comanche would hold.  
The dealer kept trying to get me to look at a "pretty blue mini van".  I 
finally had to tell him, that if I had wanted a mini van, I would have 
asked to see a mini van, and we had over a dozen at work that were 
universally detested by over 250 drivers. Then I asked if there were any 
other salesmen there, as I couldn't buy a car from someone who had such 
a difficult time understanding what I had asked for.

Kate

Dave G. wrote:
> Kate,
>
> GREAT Story... I loved every line of it...
> Especially the last two lines  <GRIN>
>
> BTW - I sure don't want you to get mad at me   8^) 
>
> Dave G.
>
> On 11 May 2008 at 10:52, Kathryn Bales wrote:
>
>   
>>>  I then 
>>> fully alienated the ex by parking right in front of the office and,
>>> dressed in a business suit and heels, proceeded to do a tuneup right
>>> on Main Street.  Surprisingly, it started the next morning.
>>>       
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun May 11 12:56:48 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:56:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV18D6F85AF6584635FA040C8CD0@phx.gbl>

175/70 T/A's or even their "softer" M/S Tourer. The T/A handles better, the Tourer rides more quietly. 

But there are a bunch of good sneakers out there. 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From wallstreetlen at hotmail.com  Sun May 11 16:08:44 2008
From: wallstreetlen at hotmail.com (Len Hansen)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:08:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential
Message-ID: <BLU104-DS70B023D5278EBD7516AF2BFCD0@phx.gbl>

Does anyone have a 4.55 differential they would like to trade for a nice low
mile 3.9?  I would also like to hear if anyone has driven with this high of
gears.  I am thinking I would like to weld the Spiders and spin some tires.
What is driving something like this on the street like.  I only drive around
home and the liquor store, so no long trips for me...

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun May 11 16:53:04 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:53:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <001101c8b31e$49803970$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <001501c8b3b9$c5f8d5c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Within FIVE POUNDS of........nah, five years of college (BA degree) took
care of that.  But then, one summer of "deckin'" on a big-horsepower
towboat took care of the college beer gut (and, back in those days,
towboat crews ate like kings).
Actually, I could be quite content living in Paducah, KY (great old
river town which, unlike Pittsburgh, understands and appreciates it's
river heritage).
The rural south, particularly along the rivers, I'd be fine with, except
it's too stinkin' HOT.

I'm basically an educated redneck, with a taste for expensive beer ;)

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:20 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something*

<<but I've heard similar reports about beer, in the South: Bud/Bud Light
or Miller/Miller Light.  Faced with only two choices of beer (and "kid
beer", at that); >>

Can you say that you are within FIVE pounds of the weight you graduated
(oops, did you bud??<G>) HIGH School!!!!

<<I'd never last down there ;)>>

After "reading" you for the past years trust me, 
TRUER words have NEVER been spoke(typed)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 11 17:27:40 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:27:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lake of the Ozarks Grille Badge!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805111627w338a2f5apbfe2ff2ef91f602c@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

If you missed Frank's post, here are a couple of his pictures of the "50
Years of Spridgets" Special Edition Grille Badge installed on his Bugeye!
It is a really stunning badge and we are very proud of how it turned out.
Only a limited number have been made and they are going only to those who
attend the Lake of the Ozarks Golden Anniversary. They are going out pretty
quickly now so if you are coming and want to pick up yours at the event,
email us pronto at SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com and we'll reserve yours. You
can send your $36 check later or you can PayPal $36 to us at: <
SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com>. When they are gone, they are gone!

Mounted on a BE with Badge Bar<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/50th/Loto1.jpg>
Mounted on a BE Grille <http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/50th/Loto3.jpg>

I'll try to get a photo soon of a badge mounted on a Midget Grill
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 11 17:29:01 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 16:29:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV18D6F85AF6584635FA040C8CD0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV18D6F85AF6584635FA040C8CD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1951244235.20080511162901@pacifier.com>

Hello Robert,

    unfortuately, those tires are no longer being made, at least
    according to the BF GOODRICH web sight..

    all they offer in 175/70 13s are high mileage, all season tires
    touting both their long tread life and their traction in the wet
    and snow.


     checking

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Sun May 11 17:31:24 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:31:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential
Message-ID: <32672754.1210548684605.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6>

---- Len Hansen <wallstreetlen at hotmail.com> wrote: 
Does anyone have a 4.55 differential they would like to trade for a nice low mile 3.9?  I would also like to hear if anyone has driven with this high of gears.  I am thinking I would like to weld the Spiders and spin some tires.

You won't be spinning any tires with a 4.55 but you will get a better hole shot! It will hook up and go instead of squealing the tires. Ask any drag racer... If you want to do burnouts, you want a 3.70 and more HP.
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun May 11 17:41:21 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:41:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential
In-Reply-To: <32672754.1210548684605.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6>
References: <32672754.1210548684605.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6>
Message-ID: <018701c8b3c0$866fb660$934f2320$@com>

You'd better have comp axles and double bearing hubs if you weld up the gear
(and you'll still tear stuff up on the street).

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:31 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential

---- Len Hansen <wallstreetlen at hotmail.com> wrote: 
Does anyone have a 4.55 differential they would like to trade for a nice low
mile 3.9?  I would also like to hear if anyone has driven with this high of
gears.  I am thinking I would like to weld the Spiders and spin some tires.

You won't be spinning any tires with a 4.55 but you will get a better hole
shot! It will hook up and go instead of squealing the tires. Ask any drag
racer... If you want to do burnouts, you want a 3.70 and more HP.
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest
acquisition
1973 Midget

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun May 11 17:43:09 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:43:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What tires do I want?
References: <48265009.7000007@comcast.net><598260560.20080510192155@pacifier.com>
	<a50a18d8a24e0a25f8a.20080510214001.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <03af01c8b3c0$c57570c0$0201a8c0@midget>

> Tire Rack also sells the Yokohama Avid series in 13"  Somewhat of a
> performance tire.  I'm happy with mine anyway.

I am still trying to figure out which season they were optimized for. 
I was happy to replace mine with the Sumitomo HTR200. I 
cannot begin to describe what the Avid TS felt like on a wet 
Autobahn track in Joliet last year. Unfortunately, there really
aren't any tire companies out there interested in producing a 
performance tire in a size appropriate to a Spridget. Even if 
you move up to a 14" rim, the selection under a 195 width is
meager.
David Lieb

From duncan at pondhop.com  Sun May 11 17:47:43 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 18:47:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential
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And probably a bunch of spare axle half shafts :)

Duncan


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 6:31 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential

---- Len Hansen <wallstreetlen at hotmail.com> wrote: 
Does anyone have a 4.55 differential they would like to trade for a nice low
mile 3.9?  I would also like to hear if anyone has driven with this high of
gears.  I am thinking I would like to weld the Spiders and spin some tires.

You won't be spinning any tires with a 4.55 but you will get a better hole
shot! It will hook up and go instead of squealing the tires. Ask any drag
racer... If you want to do burnouts, you want a 3.70 and more HP.
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest
acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun May 11 18:11:06 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 17:11:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential
In-Reply-To: <018701c8b3c0$866fb660$934f2320$@com>
References: <32672754.1210548684605.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6>
	<018701c8b3c0$866fb660$934f2320$@com>
Message-ID: <001101c8b3c4$add21f50$091cf304@spider>

Even a Spridget can twist/break a stock axle shaft. I replaced one two years
ago (I didn't do it.) ...bill

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Wm. Severin Thompson
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:41 PM
To: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 4.55 differential

You'd better have comp axles and double bearing hubs if you weld up the gear
(and you'll still tear stuff up on the street).

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sun May 11 20:06:37 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 19:06:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>
	<294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <4827A62D.9010501@gmail.com>

   Get  a  good pickle fork.  The one I got must have been made from dung
   forged steel as it bent apart in a matter of minutes.  A BFH fixed the
   problem.
   Gilroy
   rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.  Why not try
using the correct tool for removal, such as a ball joint splitting tool:
     http://tinyurl.com/4bdpyz
Not cheap like a hammer, but you'll use it many times without tearing up
the rubber boot on the tie rod end like a pickle fork does.  Who doesn't
like buying new tools?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

Michael Rowe

Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to get
a
new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering arm
was
bent out of round by this technique.

Michael Rowe
'74 Surprise
Long Island, NY
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun May 11 20:34:07 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:34:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <001501c8b3b9$c5f8d5c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <001101c8b31e$49803970$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001501c8b3b9$c5f8d5c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805111934u6c76869ve88c3c852a0c1ed7@mail.gmail.com>

Towboat cap'ns can earn about $200k per year.  Not bad work if you
have the love for the river.

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun May 11 21:04:58 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tinyurl
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN><21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home><294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<4827A62D.9010501@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05d701c8b3dc$f6924fe0$53997e4c@HP>

Anybody have an idea why my browser will no longer display the tinyurl.com 
site?

It started 2 or 3 weeks ago. I get the old "
Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"
error message if I click on a tinyurl link or just try to go directly to the 
web site.

Larry Miller

From abcoz at hky.com  Sun May 11 21:54:33 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:54:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805111934u6c76869ve88c3c852a0c1ed7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c8b3e3$e38ee500$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Unfortunately, I didn't stay on the boats long enough to get my pilot's
license :(  20/20 hindsight.
But, for that $100K-$200K, those guys have one of the most stressful
jobs there is.  You see, when a towboat pilot gets it all wrong, he
often has AT LEAST several minutes to watch the disaster unfold in front
of his eyes, all while sitting helplessly as 50K, 60K tons (or more) of
cargo, barges and towboat, pushed by the unstoppable force of Ole Man
River, majestically careen onward.  The consequences of a river pilot
error have all too often included the loss of the towboat, with all
hands.  Heart attacks, + other stress - related health issues, along
with marital problems are all too common.  
The U.S.C.G, along with corporate management that is increasingly
clueless about towboat operations, is making it harder and harder for
rivermen to love their work.  Thirty years ago, the river was sort of
the last American frontier.....  Now, well, big government and big
business have taken much of the joy out of it.
As a fourth generation riverman, I grew up in the business, and I've
known many of the legendary (at least within our industry) pilots, as
well as some who never saw a bridge pier they couldn't manage to hit.
All in all, I'm kind of glad I came ashore, and became one of the guys
who makes a living (you could say) cleaning up after the pilot's
screw-ups.  Much less stressful, and still very interesting.
Some of my very good friends are towboat pilots, and it's always been my
belief that the best towboat pilots could be top race car
drivers......they have almost supernatural depth perception, possess a
sixth sense for feeling what the river is doing under them, and have the
nerve to wait until EXACTLY the right instant to make a rudder or
throttle movement that means success, if they get it right, or disaster
if they don't.
All in all, it's a very fascinating business, and it's been good to me.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:34 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: Ed's Shop; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something*

Towboat cap'ns can earn about $200k per year.  Not bad work if you
have the love for the river.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 11 22:30:52 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tinyurl
In-Reply-To: <05d701c8b3dc$f6924fe0$53997e4c@HP>
References: <001801c8b33c$44cceef0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<21496CD9114B47958CA145C1C64C6F82@Home>
	<294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<4827A62D.9010501@gmail.com> <05d701c8b3dc$f6924fe0$53997e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805112130r6239e405ja85166b783d75116@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,

The site has developed an allergic reaction to Navy people with LBCs.

Just kidding.  I have no idea.  It works fine in all three of my browsers
(IE, Netscape & Mozilla FireFox).

I seem to remember someone saying the they are changing that site
so that when you create a tiny URL it will also include a Thumbnail
of the destination point?  Maybe that's a problem??  Dunno...

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/11/08, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody have an idea why my browser will no longer display the tinyurl.com
> site?
>
> It started 2 or 3 weeks ago. I get the old "
> Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage"
> error message if I click on a tinyurl link or just try to go directly to
> the
> web site.
>
> Larry Miller
>

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May 11 22:55:18 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 21:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Plug Connectors
Message-ID: <ff3ca266e2a390a8ad0d4a.20080511215518.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Guys,
     I got my 1275 running great now, but I have a problem with the spark
plug connectors.  I am using those repro Lucas resistor connectors
that screw onto the end of the spark plug wire.  These things are
crap.  They leak.  Ask Gerard, he got surprised when he got close
last week.  In addition they are falling off the wire.  Is there a
good generic spark plug connector to put on my copper stranded spark
plug wire? Peter?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun May 11 23:03:55 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 22:03:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
Message-ID: <988469.9272.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Looking for fast - Here ya go - Vigil  .M.G midget with corvette motor!! - $ (Oak View C.A.)  
---------------------------------
  Reply to: sale-635074602 at craigslist.org
Date: 2008-04-08, 12:52PM PDT



1977 mg.midget 
chevy 350 motor with a turbo 400 trans 
motor is out of an 80's style corvette. 
Motor runs and drives Motor has electronic ignition edelbrock carb edelbrock performer intake 
12 bolt rearend 
hurst shifter 
lowered 3 inches. 
roll cage! color-White w/new top! 
insured and registered ready to go! 
this car is alot of fun and with this motor you will be one of few. 
$5500 

these great collector cars in good shape and harder to find now-a-days! 
                  
 
   

       
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon May 12 00:24:25 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:24:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <001701c8b3e3$e38ee500$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <001701c8b3e3$e38ee500$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <4827E299.3090408@gmail.com>

Sort of like this http://koti.mbnet.fi/~soldier/towboat.htm
<http://koti.mbnet.fi/%7Esoldier/towboat.htm> The definition of a bad day.

Bud Osbourne wrote:
> But, for that $100K-$200K, those guys have one of the most stressful
> jobs there is.  You see, when a towboat pilot gets it all wrong, he
> often has AT LEAST several minutes to watch the disaster unfold in front
> of his eyes, all while sitting helplessly as 50K, 60K tons (or more) of
> cargo, barges and towboat, pushed by the unstoppable force of Ole Man
> River, majestically careen onward.  The consequences of a river pilot
> error have all too often included the loss of the towboat, with all
> hands.  Heart attacks, + other stress - related health issues, along
> with marital problems are all too common.

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Mon May 12 01:50:25 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:50:25 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c8b404$d99b1f70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

When these were first designed, the method of causing the steel to "bounce"
was the recognised and correct workshop technique.  If done properly it
works very effectively and causes no damage to the steering arm or the ball
joint.

It IS the correct tool for the job.

However,  it does require some care and needs a quick sharp tap with a heavy
hammer. Not repeated random blows which will only distort the metal and ruin
the steering arm as you found. As you say, the ball joint splitting tool is
a good alternative and is pretty idiot-proof.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: 11 May 2008 16:01
To: Michael Rowe
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.  Why not try
using the correct tool for removal, such as a ball joint splitting tool:
     http://tinyurl.com/4bdpyz
Not cheap like a hammer, but you'll use it many times without tearing up
the rubber boot on the tie rod end like a pickle fork does.  Who doesn't
like buying new tools?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Michael Rowe
> Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to get
> a
> new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering arm
> was
> bent out of round by this technique.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Surprise
> Long Island, NY
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From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May 12 06:09:16 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:09:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] It's always something*
In-Reply-To: <4827E299.3090408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000701c8b429$010dce80$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Yeah, I remember that one.  That towboat now belongs to a client of
mine, and that sequence of photos is framed, and hanging on the office
wall of a good friend of mine, who is now their VP of operations.
But, actually, I wasn't referring to the pilots running small towboats,
handling six barges, or fewer.  In my mind's eye, I was seeing the guys
piloting big-horsepower towboats (5,000 hp and up......the one pictured
was only about 1400 hp at the time of that roll-over), with heavy tows
(25 to 40 barges, each carrying around 1700 tons of cargo) on the Lower
Mississippi.  Those guys are the true artists/magicians/ice
water-in-the-veins types.  The next "tier" of pilots would be the ones
moving 15 barge tows (tow size limited by the 1200' x 110' lock
dimensions on the Ohio, or 600' x 110' on the Upper) on the Upper
Mississippi and Ohio Rivers.  While moving smaller tows, they are also
running towboats with less horsepower, and the locks & dams, and bridges
all present a different set of problems than those encountered by the
lower river guys.  Fascinating stuff, for sure.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: William M. Gilroy [mailto:wmgilroy at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:24 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'derf'; Spridgets at autox.team.net; 'Ed's Shop'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] It's always something*

Sort of like this http://koti.mbnet.fi/~soldier/towboat.htm
<http://koti.mbnet.fi/%7Esoldier/towboat.htm> The definition of a bad
day.

Bud Osbourne wrote:
> But, for that $100K-$200K, those guys have one of the most stressful
> jobs there is.  You see, when a towboat pilot gets it all wrong, he
> often has AT LEAST several minutes to watch the disaster unfold in
front
> of his eyes, all while sitting helplessly as 50K, 60K tons (or more)
of
> cargo, barges and towboat, pushed by the unstoppable force of Ole Man
> River, majestically careen onward.  The consequences of a river pilot
> error have all too often included the loss of the towboat, with all
> hands.  Heart attacks, + other stress - related health issues, along
> with marital problems are all too common.

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May 12 06:21:36 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:21:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c8b404$d99b1f70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <000801c8b42a$b97a8660$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

As any old-time mechanic can tell you, Guy is absolutely correct.
Hammers, in skilled, trained hands, are a perfectly acceptable tool for
countless jobs.  Hammers, in the hands of untrained amateurs/"putzes"
are truly the tools of ignorance, and have been/are responsible for the
destruction of countless suspension, and driveline parts.  Sort of like
putting a mirror and a strait razor into the hands of a
monkey..........guaranteed to cut his own throat.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy
Weller
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:50 AM
To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com; 'Michael Rowe'
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

When these were first designed, the method of causing the steel to
"bounce"
was the recognised and correct workshop technique.  If done properly it
works very effectively and causes no damage to the steering arm or the
ball
joint.

It IS the correct tool for the job.

However,  it does require some care and needs a quick sharp tap with a
heavy
hammer. Not repeated random blows which will only distort the metal and
ruin
the steering arm as you found. As you say, the ball joint splitting tool
is
a good alternative and is pretty idiot-proof.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf
Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: 11 May 2008 16:01
To: Michael Rowe
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.  Why not try
using the correct tool for removal, such as a ball joint splitting tool:
     http://tinyurl.com/4bdpyz
Not cheap like a hammer, but you'll use it many times without tearing up
the rubber boot on the tie rod end like a pickle fork does.  Who doesn't
like buying new tools?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Michael Rowe
> Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to
get
> a
> new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering
arm
> was
> bent out of round by this technique.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Surprise
> Long Island, NY

From davegran at ticon.net  Mon May 12 06:07:00 2008
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:07:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets]  Shout out -
Message-ID: <482832E4.7CF0@ticon.net>

Ron Soave wrote:

> Dave also did his best to not blanch at
> some of the homebrew mechanics that are part of the
> car. 

One of the things that drew me to racing in the beginning, before dirt,
was the original thinking and variety of solutions to getting on the
track and being competitive... very mind-expanding to use a 60's
phrase....

What I finally decided was, if it's simple, it's reliable, and it works;
go for it! Just for the record, Ron didn't use any drywall screws or
Taco Bell wrappers that I could see....

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon May 12 06:28:18 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:28:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Plug Connectors
In-Reply-To: <ff3ca266e2a390a8ad0d4a.20080511215518.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <000901c8b42b$a8bb4de0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Mike,
The ones I use are actually made by Beru, for Volkswagens.  They work
beautifully and last just about forever.  The best ones I've ever used
were by either Beru or Bosch, for a Porsche 924 (I think), and had a
rubber boot on the end that went over the spark plug porcelain.
Wish I had some part numbers handy.  Maybe Peter C can offer some
help.....
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:55 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Plug Connectors

Guys,
     I got my 1275 running great now, but I have a problem with the
spark
plug connectors.  I am using those repro Lucas resistor connectors
that screw onto the end of the spark plug wire.  These things are
crap.  They leak.  Ask Gerard, he got surprised when he got close
last week.  In addition they are falling off the wire.  Is there a
good generic spark plug connector to put on my copper stranded spark
plug wire? Peter?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon May 12 06:55:22 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 08:55:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEAEHAAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <032101c8b312$5b41a0b0$0201a8c0@midget>
	<HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEAEHAAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921825@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

But he is the MASTER of the BFH!


-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Faulkner [mailto:hal at katemuir.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 1:56 AM
To: David Lieb; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?

At the Buster Cluster Peter C. amazed me with exactly this technique!
One
good rap with the hammer and, voila!  I won't say it's the slickest
thing
I've ever seen, but it was damn amazing.

Hal

.... simply hit it smartly in line with the steering arm with a 1-pound
ballpeen hammer and watch in amaze as the TRE drops nicely out of place.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon May 12 06:58:01 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:58:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <988469.9272.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <988469.9272.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F06BA16E-359A-4B07-B58B-F8EB9138EFA1@comcast.net>

but.. but.. what if you want to turn the car around a corner, what  
then??

Lester

.. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some  
years back where he was driving his Lotus and his buddy was in a big  
Chebby and he figured out that his buddy could get out and push the  
Chebby around the corners and still beat him..


On May 12, 2008, at 12:03 AM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>  
<uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Looking for fast - Here ya go - Vigil  .M.G midget with corvette  
> motor!! - $ (Oak View C.A.)
> ---------------------------------
>   Reply to: sale-635074602 at craigslist.org
> Date: 2008-04-08, 12:52PM PDT
>
>
>
> 1977 mg.midget
> chevy 350 motor with a turbo 400 trans
> motor is out of an 80's style corvette.
> Motor runs and drives Motor has electronic ignition edelbrock carb  
> edelbrock performer intake
> 12 bolt rearend
> hurst shifter
> lowered 3 inches.
> roll cage! color-White w/new top!
> insured and registered ready to go!
> this car is alot of fun and with this motor you will be one of few.
> $5500
>
> these great collector cars in good shape and harder to find now-a- 
> days!

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Mon May 12 12:55:10 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:55:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bad weather
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7EE2@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Does anyone know if the Lake of the Ozarks area was hit by any of these
recent horrible tornados??  I've been trying to phone the host hotel for
the 50-years-of-spridgets but I get a solid wall of busy signals.
Jack

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 13:03:55 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:03:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <F06BA16E-359A-4B07-B58B-F8EB9138EFA1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Power Slide ?

Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:   but.. but.. what if you want to turn the car around a corner, what 
then??

Lester

.. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some 
years back where he was driving his Lotus and his buddy was in a big 
Chebby and he figured out that his buddy could get out and push the 
Chebby around the corners and still beat him..


On May 12, 2008, at 12:03 AM, 
wrote:

> Looking for fast - Here ya go - Vigil .M.G midget with corvette 
> motor!! - $ (Oak View C.A.)
> ---------------------------------
> Reply to: sale-635074602 at craigslist.org
> Date: 2008-04-08, 12:52PM PDT
>
>
>
> 1977 mg.midget
> chevy 350 motor with a turbo 400 trans
> motor is out of an 80's style corvette.
> Motor runs and drives Motor has electronic ignition edelbrock carb 
> edelbrock performer intake
> 12 bolt rearend
> hurst shifter
> lowered 3 inches.
> roll cage! color-White w/new top!
> insured and registered ready to go!
> this car is alot of fun and with this motor you will be one of few.
> $5500
>
> these great collector cars in good shape and harder to find now-a- 
> days!
>
>
>
>
>

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From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Mon May 12 13:10:59 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:10:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather    FOLLOW UP
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Hi all, I did get through to the Inn at Grand Glaize at LOTO.  They were
not hit by the tornados and they are good-to-go for the 50 Years of
Spridgets.  See Ya

_____________________________________________
From: Brashear, Jack, N
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:55 PM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: bad weather

Does anyone know if the Lake of the Ozarks area was hit by any of these
recent horrible tornados??  I've been trying to phone the host hotel for
the 50-years-of-spridgets but I get a solid wall of busy signals.
Jack

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon May 12 13:15:25 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:15:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <78D4B819-5651-4AA2-9310-3B7966CB6BA2@comcast.net>

Got it.. so it goes like this..

signal for right hand turn,

floor go pedal

turn wheel full LEFT

let off go pedal when bulk of turn accomplished

turn wheel back to right

.. gonna be a real bitch in the elementary school pickup line...

;-)

Lester

.. but memorable..

On May 12, 2008, at 2:03 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>  
<uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Power Slide ?
>
> Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: but.. but.. what if you want  
> to turn the car around a corner, what
> then??
>
> Lester
>
> .. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some
> years back where he was driving his Lotus and his buddy was in a big
> Chebby and he figured out that his buddy could get out and push the
> Chebby around the corners and still beat him..
>
> On May 12, 2008, at 12:03 AM,
> wrote:
>
> > Looking for fast - Here ya go - Vigil .M.G midget with corvette
> > motor!! - $ (Oak View C.A.)
> > ---------------------------------
> > Reply to: sale-635074602 at craigslist.org
> > Date: 2008-04-08, 12:52PM PDT
> >
> >
> >
> > 1977 mg.midget
> > chevy 350 motor with a turbo 400 trans
> > motor is out of an 80's style corvette.
> > Motor runs and drives Motor has electronic ignition edelbrock carb
> > edelbrock performer intake
> > 12 bolt rearend
> > hurst shifter
> > lowered 3 inches.
> > roll cage! color-White w/new top!
> > insured and registered ready to go!
> > this car is alot of fun and with this motor you will be one of few.
> > $5500
> >
> > these great collector cars in good shape and harder to find now-a-
> > days!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 14:01:57 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 13:01:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

".. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some 
years back "
   
  Wow, Satch!  I'd almost forgotten about him.  Anybody heard anything from Satch lately?  Used to love reading his articles.  I have a signed copy of his book, "Running on Empty" which is basically a 'best of' collection of his articles.  Haven't heard anything from him since the alleged incident with the female student at his school.  He's a great writer, very funny.  

   - David Booker


       
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Mon May 12 14:04:40 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:04:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats
Message-ID: <2EDE5F85606F4D0B8BF1C1F6846F0CCE@HomeComputer>

Gang,

Have any of you put Miata seats in a Spridget with a street roll bar?

I have a set I was going to put in my Sprite mkII with a street roll bar
(mounts to the floor behind the seats) and with the seats pushed back tight
against the roll bar there is barely any room and my knees hit the dash if
my feet are on the petals.

Suggestions other then loose weight (190 lbs - 5'8")?

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon May 12 14:14:55 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:14:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>

Jack et al,

I didn't think to post anything to the group.  As some of you know, I am a
retired Severe Storms Meteorologist with the National Weather Service. I
knew
the storms had not hit Osage Beach area but didn't think to post it.
Besides,
unless the hotel itself had been wiped of the face of the earth (very
unlikely in
that geological area) we still would have gone ahead with the event.

Fair warning....  We won't "wuss out" if it rains either   ;-)    I don't
even have a
top on my midget.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/12/08, Brashear, Jack, N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I did get through to the Inn at Grand Glaize at LOTO.  They were
> not hit by the tornados and they are good-to-go for the 50 Years of
> Spridgets.  See Ya
>
> _____________________________________________
> From: Brashear, Jack, N
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:55 PM
> To: 'Spridgets'
> Subject: bad weather
>
> Does anyone know if the Lake of the Ozarks area was hit by any of these
> recent horrible tornados??  I've been trying to phone the host hotel for
> the 50-years-of-spridgets but I get a solid wall of busy signals.
> Jack
> _______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon May 12 14:55:26 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:55:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080512155311.034f8df8@nosimport.com>

He is writing monthly for the Hemmings Sports and Exotics.
Just one of MANY reasons to read that magazine. Excellent, excellent.
         (He also bought some parts from me on eBay for his Pique)
         Peter C.
-
At 03:01 PM 5/12/2008, David Booker wrote:
>".. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some
>years back "
>
>   Wow, Satch!  I'd almost forgotten about him.  Anybody heard 
> anything from Satch lately?  Used to love reading his articles.  I 
> have a signed copy of his book, "Running on Empty" which is 
> basically a 'best of' collection of his articles.  Haven't heard 
> anything from him since the alleged incident with the female 
> student at his school.  He's a great writer, very funny.
>
>    - David Booker

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon May 12 15:09:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 14:09:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>,
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48284F91.12378.178941D@dmg.bossig.com>

FYI...
One of my boys' is in Macon, GA. (coming home Wednesday)
They had two tornadoes go through last night...
I've not seen any TV reports about major damage...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon May 12 15:21:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080512155311.034f8df8@nosimport.com>
References: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080512155311.034f8df8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <6F8CC65A-0A02-4210-9970-5E919B6D0C6E@comcast.net>

Yeah he's bought some goodies from me as well.. or did I buy some  
from him..  anyway during a POR Rusty's Mother stopped me and asked  
if I knew Satch/Rusty/Hog/Piggue and after I did she gave me a nice  
pic of the Piggue with Rusty beside it...  I still have the original  
Autoweek articles for him to sign when he comes to a SAAB owner's  
club do..

Lester


On May 12, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Peter C wrote:

> He is writing monthly for the Hemmings Sports and Exotics.
> Just one of MANY reasons to read that magazine. Excellent, excellent.
> (He also bought some parts from me on eBay for his Pique)
> Peter C.
> -
> At 03:01 PM 5/12/2008, David Booker wrote:
> >".. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some
> >years back "
> >
> > Wow, Satch! I'd almost forgotten about him. Anybody heard
> > anything from Satch lately? Used to love reading his articles. I
> > have a signed copy of his book, "Running on Empty" which is
> > basically a 'best of' collection of his articles. Haven't heard
> > anything from him since the alleged incident with the female
> > student at his school. He's a great writer, very funny.
> >
> > - David Booker
>
>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon May 12 15:40:11 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:40:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
References: <934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <68CA508016C24EF2A665169D9B578FDE@NilesAD.von.gov>

>  Wow, Satch!  I'd almost forgotten about him.  Anybody heard anything from 
> Satch lately?  Used to love reading his articles.  I have a signed copy of 
> his book, "Running on Empty" which is basically a 'best of' collection of 
> his articles.  Haven't heard anything from him since the alleged incident 
> with the female student at his school.  He's a great writer, very funny.

Yeah. He now writes a monthly article for Hemmings' Sports & Exotic Car 
Magazine. Still good. Great mag, too, IMHO.
David Lieb 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon May 12 16:07:38 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:07:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <48284F91.12378.178941D@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>,
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<48284F91.12378.178941D@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4828BFAA.6060503@frontiernet.net>

I heard that certain areas of NC were hit pretty hard.  Has anyone heard 
from Ed in NC lately?  I would e-mail him, but I lost everything in my 
address book when my computer crashed last week.

Kate

Dave G. wrote:
> FYI...
> One of my boys' is in Macon, GA. (coming home Wednesday)
> They had two tornadoes go through last night...
> I've not seen any TV reports about major damage...

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon May 12 16:45:15 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <000e01c8b404$d99b1f70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
References: <294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<000e01c8b404$d99b1f70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
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Maybe I'll try the "hammer" method next time just to see.
Mike



Guy Weller
>
> When these were first designed, the method of causing the steel to
> "bounce"
> was the recognised and correct workshop technique.  If done properly it
> works very effectively and causes no damage to the steering arm or the
> ball
> joint.
>
> It IS the correct tool for the job.
>
> However,  it does require some care and needs a quick sharp tap with a
> heavy
> hammer. Not repeated random blows which will only distort the metal and
> ruin
> the steering arm as you found. As you say, the ball joint splitting tool
> is
> a good alternative and is pretty idiot-proof.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf
> Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com
> Sent: 11 May 2008 16:01
> To: Michael Rowe
> Cc: 'Spridgets'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
>
> I never use a hammer on anything in the front suspension.  Why not try
> using the correct tool for removal, such as a ball joint splitting tool:
>      http://tinyurl.com/4bdpyz
> Not cheap like a hammer, but you'll use it many times without tearing up
> the rubber boot on the tie rod end like a pickle fork does.  Who doesn't
> like buying new tools?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
>
> Michael Rowe
>> Use care.  We struggled a long time and ruined some threads trying to
>> get
>> a
>> new tie rod back in before discovering that the hole in the steering arm
>> was
>> bent out of round by this technique.
>>
>> Michael Rowe
>> '74 Surprise
>> Long Island, NY
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Mon May 12 17:02:23 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:02:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <4828BFAA.6060503@frontiernet.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>,
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<48284F91.12378.178941D@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4828BFAA.6060503@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4828CC7F.6040503@verizon.net>

Kate,  I live pretty close to Ed in NC and we missed all the
really bad stuff that hit further west, around Greensboro.

When central NC had tornados  and such, we here in the
Raleigh/Durham area had rain and a bit of wind.

I would bet that Ed in NC is jes' fine.

chuck

Kathryn Bales wrote:
> I heard that certain areas of NC were hit pretty hard.  Has anyone heard 
> from Ed in NC lately?  I would e-mail him, but I lost everything in my 
> address book when my computer crashed last week.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 12 17:10:14 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:10:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4828CE56.1040405@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
>   As some of you know, I am a
> retired Severe Storms Meteorologist 
And unlike my Carlisle trip next weekend where they are predicting rain 
for 3 days (what else is new for Carlisle and any of Rick's events) I an 
SURE you, JIM JOHNSON, will provide perfect weather for the Osage Beach 
event and decent weather for my 2 day out/2 day home drive.
That's 8 days of no rain Mr. Johnson. A thunderstorm or 2 during the 
event is acceptable but a rainy 8 days like SS03, is NOT acceptable. I 
will have to deal with 4 out of 5 days this coming weekend with rain in 
Sprites. BTDT 4 times already, this is getting old! A Spridget meet with 
no rain once every 20 years sure would be different.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 12 17:46:04 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:46:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <4828CE56.1040405@comcast.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4828CE56.1040405@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1991231707.20080512164604@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     he has given ME assurance that the weather will be perfect for
     the 16 days from june 21st when i leave Western Washington until
     i return on or by July 6th, that the weather will be

     PERFECT... no rain, not too hot, the occasional cloud or two just
     to keep the sky interesting, but nothing for which i would need
     to even bring along my top..... unless it is to prevent sunburn
     driving across the Great Plains......

     THANKS JIM!



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Can you repeat the part after "Listen very carefully"? 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon May 12 17:50:10 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:50:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <4828CC7F.6040503@verizon.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>,
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<48284F91.12378.178941D@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4828BFAA.6060503@frontiernet.net> <4828CC7F.6040503@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4828D7B2.1090506@frontiernet.net>

Thanks Chuck.  I've been worried about him.

Kate

chuck wrote:
> Kate,  I live pretty close to Ed in NC and we missed all the
> really bad stuff that hit further west, around Greensboro.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 17:50:38 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 16:50:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs @ Road America in 2009
Message-ID: <746070.70727.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=9181&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Ron 


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From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Mon May 12 18:55:14 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions
Message-ID: <50389.72.71.217.71.1210640114.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

For all the helpful people on the list:
First question for a friend working on the front end of a 74 Midget-- How
do you remove a stuck fulcrum pin? The retaining pin is out, but the
fulcrum pin won't turn.

Next question for me on a 66 Sprite-- the starter wouldn't turn over the
other day, but without doing anything except trying to jump start it,
which didn't work, the next day it started right up.  Do I have a "dead
spot"  on the starter?  If so, how do I fix it.
Thanks.
Dick B. in NH

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon May 12 19:28:15 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:28:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] starting problem
Message-ID: <000b01c8b498$9f5537d0$2318f304@spider>

Start cheapest or easiest to fix. 

I will guess you have a weak link in your starter circuit, like the key
switch or starter button (not sure which you might have.)  .bill

 

===================================================

Next question for me on a 66 Sprite-- the starter wouldn't turn over the

other day, but without doing anything except trying to jump start it,

which didn't work, the next day it started right up.  Do I have a "dead

spot"  on the starter?  If so, how do I fix it.

Thanks.

Dick B. in NH

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 12 19:38:16 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:38:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs @ Road America in 2009
References: <746070.70727.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00b101c8b49a$053c72b0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <team-thicko at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:50 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs @ Road America in 2009


http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=9181&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Ron


      ____________________________________________________________________________________

Yes, yes, yes, YES.  It's about time.  That is almost enough to get me back 
into the game.

Actually, probably not, but I sure as hell will be there to watch.

LAD 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon May 12 19:40:31 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 18:40:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass Polishing
Message-ID: <557637.62428.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Any one know of some one who will polish out scratches in a windshield in the Southern California LA or Orange County.
   
  Vigil
  fv-ca-usa

       
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From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Mon May 12 19:49:00 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:49:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: super fast - Midget - 4 Sale
In-Reply-To: <934089.27771.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <316357.16103.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4.1.20080512214036.00b29250@mail.bellsouth.net>

At 01:01 PM 5/12/2008 -0700, David Booker wrote:
>".. I am reminded of an article by Satch Carlson in Autoweek some 
>years back "
>   
>  Wow, Satch!  I'd almost forgotten about him.  Anybody heard anything from 
>Satch lately?  Used to love reading his articles.  I have a signed copy of 
>his book, "Running on Empty" which is basically a 'best of' collection of 
>his articles.  Haven't heard anything from him since the alleged incident 
>with the female student at his school.  He's a great writer, very funny.  
>
>   - David Booker
>
>
>   Satch Carlson is a columnist for Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car Magazine
at www.hemmings.com
Apparently he recently moved into a condo in Southern California according
to his most recent column which lamented his having to get rid of some
treasured tools to avoid the wrath of the Home Owners Association "police."
 He is as entertaining and relevant as always as is my other favorite,
Denise McCluggage, of AutoWeek.




Bob Spruck
MGMaven
Sharpsburg, GA
67 Midget Vintage Racer
72 Midget Street and Show
6 parts/project cars

From dmeadow at juno.com  Mon May 12 20:04:38 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:04:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions
Message-ID: <20080512.210446.4428.0.dmeadow@juno.com>

Usually the fulcrum pin is stuck because it is bent.  What I do is get a
thin cutoff wheel and carefully cut through the pin on both sides of the
king pin.  That will get the king pin out of the way and allow you to
back out the pieces of the fulcrum pin.

David

On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT) lindalnhvt at nhvt.net writes:
> For all the helpful people on the list:
> First question for a friend working on the front end of a 74 
> Midget-- How
> do you remove a stuck fulcrum pin? The retaining pin is out, but 
> the
> fulcrum pin won't turn.

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon May 12 20:26:05 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 22:26:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass Polishing
In-Reply-To: <557637.62428.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <557637.62428.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4828FC3D.6000800@smarc.net>

FWIW, I used Eastwood's glass polishing kit on my Midget to remove some 
nasty windshield wiper hazing...

It's a LOT of work, not anything like buffing paint...
I spent about 2 hours before I gave up on it. Seems like it would be 
easier to just replace the glass.
However, there was a real improvement, from horrible to just annoying... 
So that's something I guess...

Marc



uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> Any one know of some one who will polish out scratches in a windshield in the Southern California LA or Orange County.
>    
>   Vigil
>   fv-ca-usa

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 12 20:40:16 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:40:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod End removal?
In-Reply-To: <ae06a1a33da26e44a8e62a.20080512154515.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <294a636a938a8ca.20080511080110.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<000e01c8b404$d99b1f70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<ae06a1a33da26e44a8e62a.20080512154515.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805121940o46791ef7pafe399b90cf3c694@mail.gmail.com>

I used the hammer method on a 73 Super Beetle tie rod ends about an
hour ago.  It works fine.  The fork tends to tear the rubber boot.
Tie rod tools are good and HF has them pretty cheap, too.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 12 21:43:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 21:43:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions
References: <20080512.210446.4428.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
Message-ID: <00df01c8b4ab$84fc3e70$6701a8c0@shop>

<<Usually the fulcrum pin is stuck because it is bent. >>

Well David, I will admit to only doing the job a couple hundred times, 
BUT I have NEVER encountered a "bent" pin.

Rusted as solid as a rock??      YEP!!!

Ed

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon May 12 21:08:07 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:08:07 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Ground Strap Question
Message-ID: <be5.2f1aae40.355a6017@aol.com>

While crawling under the Bugeye this evening I noticed the engine ground  
strap wasn't connected at both ends. The strap was fastened to one of  the bolts 
that holds the engine and gearbox together, but the other end was  flapping in 
the breeze. I can't seem to figure out where the other end connects  to the 
body. Can anyone help with this?
 
Howard Collins
Virginia beach, VA.
 
 



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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon May 12 21:40:19 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:40:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions
In-Reply-To: <20080512.210446.4428.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
References: <20080512.210446.4428.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
Message-ID: <c3f0a1d808a2bca0aa050a.20080512204019.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

How do you get an inner fulcrum bolt out if it is rusted to the inner
metal part of the bushings.  Ran into that at Gerard's house last week. 
We beat on it, sprayed it with Busty and tried everything to get it out. 
Turns out the bushings coming out were not as bad as we thought and we
just left it in, but changed the rest out.  There is always one bolt in a
job that won't come out.  Even Gerard said he had not seen such a stubborn
bolt before.  It's only been in there 8 years.  Not a lot for Southern
California and the car has never been in the rain.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


dmeadow at juno.com
> Usually the fulcrum pin is stuck because it is bent.  What I do is get a
> thin cutoff wheel and carefully cut through the pin on both sides of the
> king pin.  That will get the king pin out of the way and allow you to
> back out the pieces of the fulcrum pin.
>
> David
>
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:55:14 -0400 (EDT) lindalnhvt at nhvt.net writes:
>> For all the helpful people on the list:
>> First question for a friend working on the front end of a 74
>> Midget-- How
>> do you remove a stuck fulcrum pin? The retaining pin is out, but
>> the
>> fulcrum pin won't turn.
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon May 12 21:48:28 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 20:48:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Bugeye Ground Strap Question
In-Reply-To: <be5.2f1aae40.355a6017@aol.com>
References: <be5.2f1aae40.355a6017@aol.com>
Message-ID: <15a80a342c0a4d700a11b80a.20080512204828.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Howard,
    The other end screws inot the frame rail close to where it is flapping
in the breeze.  Get under the car and look for a threaded hole in the
frame rail near it.  If it is not connected, the engine is probably
grounding through another route, like your choke cable, accelerator
cable, etc.  You might see which one is hot to the touch when the
engine is running.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


miniac7 at aol.com
> While crawling under the Bugeye this evening I noticed the engine ground
> strap wasn't connected at both ends. The strap was fastened to one of  the
> bolts
> that holds the engine and gearbox together, but the other end was
> flapping in
> the breeze. I can't seem to figure out where the other end connects  to
> the
> body. Can anyone help with this?
>
> Howard Collins
> Virginia beach, VA.

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Mon May 12 23:04:10 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 1:04:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions
Message-ID: <7013781.1210655050420.JavaMail.root@wmvirt66>

---- lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: 
> For all the helpful people on the list:
> First question for a friend working on the front end of a 74 Midget-- How
> do you remove a stuck fulcrum pin? The retaining pin is out, but the
> fulcrum pin won't turn.

I have had a lot of success with a hand impact tool. Make sure that you use the large flat blade bit.
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon May 12 23:18:17 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 00:18:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone need a weber 40 and manifold?
References: <20080512.210446.4428.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
	<c3f0a1d808a2bca0aa050a.20080512204019.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <000401c8b4b8$c0ae2700$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

I am cleaning up my spares, I have a DCOE 40 with intake that has the proper 
throttle linkage, it comes with about a dozen jets a couple of emulsion 
tubes, some chokes and venturies as well.  If anyone is interested I thought 
I'd offer here before it goes ebay.  Contact me off list for pics and 
details.

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 13 00:26:42 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 01:26:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bad weather FOLLOW UP
In-Reply-To: <4828CE56.1040405@comcast.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603CF7F15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<43840a7e0805121314q31db20e2l9d22cd064ffad64e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4828CE56.1040405@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805122326t24518468qea2e3a0466f7d28f@mail.gmail.com>

Sure Frank.  No problem.  I'll send you my bank account number in a private
email and you can make the required deposit. 2 days in and 2 days out plus
the 4 days a the event... hmmmmm   Are you sure you've got enough Lira to
cover all that Pisan?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/12/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> >  As some of you know, I am a
> > retired Severe Storms Meteorologist
> >
> And unlike my Carlisle trip next weekend where they are predicting rain
> for 3 days (what else is new for Carlisle and any of Rick's events) I an
> SURE you, JIM JOHNSON, will provide perfect weather for the Osage Beach
> event and decent weather for my 2 day out/2 day home drive.
> That's 8 days of no rain Mr. Johnson. A thunderstorm or 2 during the event
> is acceptable but a rainy 8 days like SS03, is NOT acceptable. I will have
> to deal with 4 out of 5 days this coming weekend with rain in Sprites. BTDT
> 4 times already, this is getting old! A Spridget meet with no rain once
> every 20 years sure would be different.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue May 13 00:50:32 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 23:50:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
Message-ID: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>

I finally painted my MG.  This is the first car that I have ever painted
and it looks like it came out pretty good.  I learned everything I know
about body work during the OShit's back east.    I studied under the
Italian master.  I could not find any Taco Bell wrappers so I had to use
a local wrappers from Taco Time.  I hope the last as long as the Taco
Bell wrappers.  Throw in a a few zip screws and some bondo and it looks
almost like a professional job.  I have just finished the tub and here
is short list of things I learned:

1.  Things that are higher than the surrounding metal are hard to fix.
2.  Final color creates a lot more mist.  Don't leave your nice new cell
phone out.
3.  Not sure I really know how to shoot color. 
4.  I learned that I have a lot more to learn.
5.  Dust control.  I don't have a clue.
6.  When welding I now know how much heat will warp a panel.
7.  Plug welding holes is hard than it looks.

See the picture @ http://www.dotphoto.com/MemViewAlbum.asp?AID=5249116

Gilroy

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 03:28:06 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:28:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new car in the stable
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b2cb$4c6cc0c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <000601c8b2cb$4c6cc0c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
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Cool Bonnet congrats : )
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> My oh my, what have I done?  It was too good to pass up.  The handshake
> deal
> will hold until the replacement pink slip shows up.  $1K for what you see
> below.  NO rust to be seen.  Very solid and clean underneath.  3 into 1
> header, hanging open, no pipe.  Rear arches cut and bondo-flared to hold
> more
> rubber. Two extra intake manifolds, four extra carbs, extra ribcase, pair
> of
> Mikuni carbs.  Silly DPO things under bonnet, but no biggy.  The
> fiberglass
> bonnet has a few cracks and is very poorly aligned for now, but should be
> a
> piece of cake for an old kayak builder like myself.  Needs grill and top
> bows
> at the very least.  And the velour interior will be short lived.
>
> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/Glen_B/MkIII/
>
> It will have to wait until after Missouri and my wife's Traveler's paint
> job,
> but next spring.................
>
> Glen Byrns
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 03:30:09 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:30:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ozarks grille badge installed 2 ways
In-Reply-To: <482627E3.3050306@comcast.net>
References: <482627E3.3050306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430805130230s1fbd03b4yf63f2004a3902d15@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,
The badge bar looks awesome : )
#1

Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
wrote:

> http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto1.jpg<http://home.comcast.net/%7Espritenut/Loto1.jpg>
> http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto2.jpg<http://home.comcast.net/%7Espritenut/Loto2.jpg>
> http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto3.jpg<http://home.comcast.net/%7Espritenut/Loto3.jpg>
> http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/Loto4.jpg<http://home.comcast.net/%7Espritenut/Loto4.jpg>
>
> --
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> Toms River, NJ
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 03:40:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:40:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Champ mine
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080509154455.03959748@nosimport.com>
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I think it cute : ) but I have too many cars in the driveway. Peter can you
list it on the UK eBay site you may get more $$$. And definitely more love
for the little truck.
Good luck finding it a good home.
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pink)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Well, I shoveled out the barn last weekend in anticipation of pouring
> a concrete floor this weekend.
>
> Amongst my Land Rovers, Morris Minors, and Austin Healeys is a fine
> example of a 1952 Austin Champ.
>
> Google it.
>
> Anyway, it's fugly, and should go to a good home. It is now sitting
> outside and getting wet. But that's OK, it's submersible;-)
>
> It is very, very rusty, but might appeal to British military
> collectors, or Austin collectors, or whackos, like me.
>
> My life would be a little simpler if I don't have to house it. I
> don't need to sell it, but someone may love it more than I.
>
> If you are interested, email me off-list. I should think somewhere in
> the $1500 range would be fair. Maybe not... try me.
>
> Located a Champ's throw north of Madison Westconsin.
>
> Peter C.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 04:05:00 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:05:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3D-CAD Spriget Body Drawings
In-Reply-To: <854DD02D-A3C2-428B-B54A-BC9139A033BE@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.11757.1210338925.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<854DD02D-A3C2-428B-B54A-BC9139A033BE@dartmouth.edu>
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Mark & Spridgeteers,

I got too busy drawing it for a 3D demo for my class perhaps I'll get a
student to try it unless my summer clears up then I'll get back to it. Yes I
would like one also if any are available, why reinvent the wheel : )

The guy behind this site http://halfabrain.co.uk/ (I just love the name)
made a flash program to design your own VW, and Porsche and he did a great
job considering it is only 2D and flash, check it out it's free,
downloadable and lots of fun. I want him to make one for the Spridgets good
timing as I sent him a message yesterday I'll let the list know if he will
give me a hand. I may end up recruiting some of my students (who are good at
CAD and Flash) to work on it as community service because the kids in the
honors society as well as other clubs are often looking for opportunities to
gain service hours. If I can I will have to recruit some notes on the minor
details of the body structure. I figure just Bugeye, and Square body to
start unfortunately it will be a profile view although I will see if we can
do a front view too because that is the best part of the Bugeye design. I
understand from my students Google Sketch Up
http://sketchup.google.com/(free software) will import photos so you
can digitize them on the screen
and it works like a charm with homes, although I haven't tried it my self
but as the school year winds down I will have time to work on projects. I'll
surly keep the list posted on the success of this project. With my dear
father passing away and the overwhelming task of executrix (gal executor of
the estate) ahead of me I have not been on the list for a while but now that
my spouse is nearly done with surgery and cancer free finally, (thanks list
for all the prayers and good wishes)  I hope to have some clear road ahead
in my future.

Linda



62 California Sprite (Pinky)

www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner






On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu>
wrote:

> Does anyone have or know of 3D-CAD drawing file(s) of the spriget body
> sheet metal - outer sheet metal, not so much the undercarriage (though
> that would be a bonus)?
>
> thanks,
> -m
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 04:11:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:11:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Hangers
In-Reply-To: <1ABEA2AB22AD44DC8443CBEACB2085A0@Home>
References: <48247FD6.22886.2124DFE@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090805092128o44118ad6ua85eb0097d4377df@mail.gmail.com>
	<1ABEA2AB22AD44DC8443CBEACB2085A0@Home>
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I'm a little confused here is that a Bugeye Body rear on a Square Body?
Lin

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Are bought interior patches like the spring hanger patch and associated
> rear panel patch normally butted in or lapped?
>
> I am wondering about the effect on the allignment of the spring bracket,
> if any as my rear floor has already been doubled with some fairly heavy
> sheet on the inside, so an interior lap there could be as much as 1/4" high.
>  An exterior lap would not be so much off.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 04:19:14 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:19:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] SPRITE JUBILEE 2008
In-Reply-To: <012001c8b141$b0baec90$2f01a8c0@dell1>
References: <012001c8b141$b0baec90$2f01a8c0@dell1>
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Biff & Spridgeteers,
My 62 Sprite is not ready for the trip but if my friend lends me his truck &
trailer I'll give it a try, can I still sign up? Also which 50th should we
go to first being they are both on the same day? If we can't trailer her we
will just drive out in our daily driver but always planned on the trip.
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner



On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:

> SPRITE JUBILEE 2008
>
> It's not too late to sign up for SPRITE JUBILEE
>
> But there are only 9 days left!!!!!!!!!
>
> http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/index.html
>
>
>
> Come join the largest AH SPRITE 50th anniversary celebration.
>
> 210 people and 115 cars are currently registered, lets add more.
>
> One lucky SPRITE JUBILEE attendee will go home with GAMS,
>
> the Give Away Midget Sprite. No other Sprite gathering is giving
>
> away a spridget just for attending !!!!!!
>
>
>
> If you are attending the Carlisle Import-Kit/Replicar Nationals
>
> stop by the SPRITE JUBILEE Tent and meet the SJ attendees.
>
> Don't hesitate any longer the next meet SPRITE REUNION
>
> won't be held until 2013. Sign up now and be a part of
>
> SPRITE JUBILEE 2008 !!!!!!!
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue May 13 05:09:11 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:09:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Glass Polishing*
Message-ID: <051320081109.27989.482976D7000D61FC00006D552216554886C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I bought a kit from Eastwood that has a special buffer and a powdered compound that you mix with water to polish small scratches out.  It works pretty well.  I bought the "fine" kit which is supposed to polish out scratches that will not catch your fingernail as you drag it across the glass.  They now also have a compound for larger scratches.  I am satisfied with the results, although it has not yet polished out the worst wiper marks. May have to get the larger scratch compound for that.

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
> Any one know of some one who will polish out scratches in a windshield in the 
> Southern California LA or Orange County.
>    
>   Vigil
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From trevorwj at insightbb.com  Tue May 13 05:57:51 2008
From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 07:57:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen frame to body seal.
Message-ID: <8c1781040805130457r4ef7726etd325f5081345e51d@mail.gmail.com>

On my '58 sprite (9-stud windscreen) the glass looks to be in usable
shape so I went ahead and installed a new seal and bolted the frame on
the car. However, there is a 1/4 inch gap in the center and the edges
of the seal (near the pillars) are compressed, but look like they need
more compression.

So... what's the issue?

The center of the cowl doesn't look distorted.

Did someone put glass in the frame that was too small?

Did Moss sell me a seal that is incorrect? (It looks different than
the later windscreen seals)

Thanks for any help you can provide

Trevor

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue May 13 06:42:08 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 13:42:08 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen frame to body seal.
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040805130457r4ef7726etd325f5081345e51d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005401c8b4f6$c22e0710$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Screen tilted too far back perhaps?

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
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Of Trevor Jessie
Sent: 13 May 2008 12:58
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen frame to body seal.

On my '58 sprite (9-stud windscreen) the glass looks to be in usable
shape so I went ahead and installed a new seal and bolted the frame on
the car. However, there is a 1/4 inch gap in the center and the edges
of the seal (near the pillars) are compressed, but look like they need
more compression.

So... what's the issue?

The center of the cowl doesn't look distorted.

Did someone put glass in the frame that was too small?

Did Moss sell me a seal that is incorrect? (It looks different than
the later windscreen seals)

Thanks for any help you can provide

Trevor
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From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Tue May 13 06:50:01 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 05:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone got a picture of the Bugeye Bonnet Rear Cowl Seal
Message-ID: <77125.69025.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I received a Bugeye Bonnet Rear Cowl Seat from MacGregor's yesterday. Unlike MOSS, this seal fit with just a tap to fit into place. I'm not sure how a BE's firewall is different on the end from a later Spridgets. On Bugsy my '68 the rail the rubber seal fits into spreads out at each end and there is a large hole at the end. I've got an extra 1 1/2" of bonnet seal on either cut off or somehow fasten down or trim. Before I go and cut, anyone got a picture of a finished end on a BE Bonnet Rear Cowl Seal they can send me.
   
  Ready to do final fitting of BE Bonnet to my '68 and this was just the finishing piece I needed. Nice service from folks at MacGregor's BTW. Canada to Dayton including going through customs fasterthan it would have come from MOSS or VB. Plus it fits, it fits. 


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
Cincinnati, OH

From trevorwj at insightbb.com  Tue May 13 06:57:27 2008
From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:57:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen frame to body seal.
In-Reply-To: <005401c8b4f6$c22e0710$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
References: <8c1781040805130457r4ef7726etd325f5081345e51d@mail.gmail.com>
	<005401c8b4f6$c22e0710$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
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OK, this is the first time I've worked on a MkI windscreen.  How is
the tilt altered?

Trevor

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Screen tilted too far back perhaps?
>
>  Guy
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
>  [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
>  Of Trevor Jessie
>  Sent: 13 May 2008 12:58
>  To: Spridgets
>  Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen frame to body seal.
>
>  On my '58 sprite (9-stud windscreen) the glass looks to be in usable
>  shape so I went ahead and installed a new seal and bolted the frame on
>  the car. However, there is a 1/4 inch gap in the center and the edges
>  of the seal (near the pillars) are compressed, but look like they need
>  more compression.
>
>  So... what's the issue?
>
>  The center of the cowl doesn't look distorted.
>
>  Did someone put glass in the frame that was too small?
>
>  Did Moss sell me a seal that is incorrect? (It looks different than
>  the later windscreen seals)
>
>  Thanks for any help you can provide
>
>  Trevor

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue May 13 12:41:49 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] mg midget fenders
Message-ID: <627746.74954.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are the 68-69 front fenders the same as the ones in the 74? I know they were all called Mark III, Just not sure if they are interchangeable. So i figured i would ask the more knowledhgeable people in the group.
   
  Vigil 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May 13 13:01:49 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:01:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] mg midget fenders
In-Reply-To: <627746.74954.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <627746.74954.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805131201p6ed99856j968d85aaf396ab5@mail.gmail.com>

On the 68-69, the front marker lamp sits closer to the headlamp bucket, due
to the thickness of the chrome bumper. On the cars with the skinny chrome
bumper, the lamps are moved lower, to balance out the space between the
headlamp and bumper.
If you look in the OS&M, you will see the lovely blue Sprite, with
mismatched front wings, at the beginning of the MKIV Sprite section. I
forget the page #, and my copy is at home, not work. It isn't
*real*obvious, but once you see it, your eyes are drawn to it, every
time you see
it afterwards.


Brad

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Are the 68-69 front fenders the same as the ones in the 74? I know they
> were all called Mark III, Just not sure if they are interchangeable. So i
> figured i would ask the more knowledhgeable people in the group.
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue May 13 13:53:36 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:53:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] mg midget fenders
In-Reply-To: <627746.74954.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F380EC077921224C0BB5466B8CF0@phx.gbl>

>>i figured i would ask the more knowledhgeable people in the group.

Well ... your question made it to me too!!! ;)



----Original Message Follows----
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>

Are the 68-69 front fenders the same as the ones in the 74? I know they were 
all called Mark III, Just not sure if they are interchangeable. So i figured 
i would ask the more knowledhgeable people in the group.

   Vigil

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 18:20:04 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:20:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805131720q3681c36an8c0bea2b920eac6a@mail.gmail.com>

Gilroy,
I am so excited to see the photos but it says I need to log in is there any
other way to do it without setting up an account?
Thanks Linda




On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 2:50 AM, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I finally painted my MG.  This is the first car that I have ever painted
> and it looks like it came out pretty good.  I learned everything I know
> about body work during the OShit's back east.    I studied under the
> Italian master.  I could not find any Taco Bell wrappers so I had to use
> a local wrappers from Taco Time.  I hope the last as long as the Taco
> Bell wrappers.  Throw in a a few zip screws and some bondo and it looks
> almost like a professional job.  I have just finished the tub and here
> is short list of things I learned:
>
> 1.  Things that are higher than the surrounding metal are hard to fix.
> 2.  Final color creates a lot more mist.  Don't leave your nice new cell
> phone out.
> 3.  Not sure I really know how to shoot color.
> 4.  I learned that I have a lot more to learn.
> 5.  Dust control.  I don't have a clue.
> 6.  When welding I now know how much heat will warp a panel.
> 7.  Plug welding holes is hard than it looks.
>
> See the picture @ http://www.dotphoto.com/MemViewAlbum.asp?AID=5249116
>
> Gilroy
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 13 19:34:18 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:34:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131720q3681c36an8c0bea2b920eac6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003a01c8b562$a20b9670$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I am so excited to see the photos but it says I need to log in is there any
other way to do it without setting up an account?>>

Ditto here.  HATE them sites!!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May 13 18:35:41 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:35:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
Message-ID: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>

I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I have
the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a half
drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a
while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and rear
brake bits on the car.
I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part, all
twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit of
money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is NOT
an option.
When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
Answers not required, but thought is....

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:00:01 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>

Hummm .....I'm feeling guilty : (
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner




On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I
> have
> the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a half
> drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
> While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a
> while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and
> rear
> brake bits on the car.
> I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part, all
> twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit
> of
> money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is
> NOT
> an option.
> When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
> Answers not required, but thought is....
>
> Brad
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:03:13 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:03:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805131803i6119f556j47166ed41a256352@mail.gmail.com>

It isn't about guilt. It's more about the realization, that 30 minutes, and
greasy hands, can prolong the time, when YOU have to learn all about
removing fulcrum pins, and learning new curse words.
You can of course, do what I did, and buy new rebuilt assemblies. BUT, even
after that, you will REALLY want to keep it all greased then.

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hummm .....I'm feeling guilty : (
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I
>> have
>> the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a half
>> drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
>> While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a
>> while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and
>> rear
>> brake bits on the car.
>> I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part, all
>> twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit
>> of
>> money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is
>> NOT
>> an option.
>> When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
>> Answers not required, but thought is....
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> --
>> DON JULIO 1942
>>
>> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com
>>
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>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:22:30 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:22:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <003a01c8b562$a20b9670$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131720q3681c36an8c0bea2b920eac6a@mail.gmail.com>
	<003a01c8b562$a20b9670$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <441250190805131822j29257c27u9413a96e30b85096@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I hear youse guys.  I will move them to another site.  I did not read
the fine print on that site; the bold print stated you did not need a
membership.

On 5/13/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
> <<I am so excited to see the photos but it says I need to log in is there
> any
> other way to do it without setting up an accoeunt?>>
>
> Ditto here.  HATE them sites!!
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:27:25 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:27:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
Message-ID: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,
I received a message from Anita the gal in Washington State who also owns a
62 deep pink Sprite and her Sprite is absolutely stunning. It is a low
mileage pristine Sprite which she won "Best Original Unrestored Car in Show"
last year. She said she is having difficulty matching her paint, she wanted
to touch up a chip or two but the mix is wrong. I told her I would try and
get some help. The only thing I can figure out is her paint is slightly
faded so it wouldn't match. I asked her if a digitizer was used on her paint
to get the color. I should know in a day or two of that answer. Is there any
other way to match the color?

I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:45:33 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:45:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131803i6119f556j47166ed41a256352@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090805131803i6119f556j47166ed41a256352@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805131845p69bf4aefpc7256432b5fa286d@mail.gmail.com>

I still feel guilty : )
Lin

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> It isn't about guilt. It's more about the realization, that 30 minutes,
> and greasy hands, can prolong the time, when YOU have to learn all about
> removing fulcrum pins, and learning new curse words.
> You can of course, do what I did, and buy new rebuilt assemblies. BUT,
> even after that, you will REALLY want to keep it all greased then.
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hummm .....I'm feeling guilty : (
> > Linda
> >
> > 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that
> > > I have
> > > the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a
> > > half
> > > drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
> > > While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been
> > > a
> > > while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and
> > > rear
> > > brake bits on the car.
> > > I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part,
> > > all
> > > twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a
> > > bit of
> > > money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again
> > > is NOT
> > > an option.
> > > When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your
> > > Spridget.
> > > Answers not required, but thought is....
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > --
> > > DON JULIO 1942
> > >
> > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > >
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:48:57 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:48:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>

Try this link it swears it is viewable by anyone.

http://picasaweb.google.com/wmgilroy/MGBodyWork

We shall see.

-g



On 5/12/08, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I finally painted my MG.  This is the first car that I have ever painted
> and it looks like it came out pretty good.  I learned everything I know
> about body work during the OShit's back east.    I studied under the
> Italian master.  I could not find any Taco Bell wrappers so I had to use
> a local wrappers from Taco Time.  I hope the last as long as the Taco
> Bell wrappers.  Throw in a a few zip screws and some bondo and it looks
> almost like a professional job.  I have just finished the tub and here
> is short list of things I learned:
>
> 1.  Things that are higher than the surrounding metal are hard to fix.
> 2.  Final color creates a lot more mist.  Don't leave your nice new cell
> phone out.
> 3.  Not sure I really know how to shoot color.
> 4.  I learned that I have a lot more to learn.
> 5.  Dust control.  I don't have a clue.
> 6.  When welding I now know how much heat will warp a panel.
> 7.  Plug welding holes is hard than it looks.
>
>
> Gilroy

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:52:11 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:52:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
	<441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805131852s1b47e252mfb62582486ab0102@mail.gmail.com>

Hey nice job Gilroy. Did you paint it without a curtain around it I don't
see any paint on your tools and stuff?
Lin

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Try this link it swears it is viewable by anyone.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/wmgilroy/MGBodyWork
>
> We shall see.
>
> -g
>
>
>
> On 5/12/08, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I finally painted my MG.  This is the first car that I have ever painted
> > and it looks like it came out pretty good.  I learned everything I know
> > about body work during the OShit's back east.    I studied under the
> > Italian master.  I could not find any Taco Bell wrappers so I had to use
> > a local wrappers from Taco Time.  I hope the last as long as the Taco
> > Bell wrappers.  Throw in a a few zip screws and some bondo and it looks
> > almost like a professional job.  I have just finished the tub and here
> > is short list of things I learned:
> >
> > 1.  Things that are higher than the surrounding metal are hard to fix.
> > 2.  Final color creates a lot more mist.  Don't leave your nice new cell
> > phone out.
> > 3.  Not sure I really know how to shoot color.
> > 4.  I learned that I have a lot more to learn.
> > 5.  Dust control.  I don't have a clue.
> > 6.  When welding I now know how much heat will warp a panel.
> > 7.  Plug welding holes is hard than it looks.
> >
> >
>  > Gilroy
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue May 13 19:59:41 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 18:59:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <205cef430805131852s1b47e252mfb62582486ab0102@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
	<441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131852s1b47e252mfb62582486ab0102@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190805131859k758836dn6f44166e5225245f@mail.gmail.com>

I used an HVLP gun.  My wife was out of town when I painted but now that she
is back she can smell the solvents and is not very happy with me.  I need a
new plan if I do this in the future; it got ugly for a while.

-g



On 5/13/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey nice job Gilroy. Did you paint it without a curtain around it I don't
> see any paint on your tools and stuff?
> Lin
>
>
>  On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Try this link it swears it is viewable by anyone.
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/wmgilroy/MGBodyWork
>>
>> We shall see.
>>
>> -g
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/12/08, William M. Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I finally painted my MG.  This is the first car that I have ever painted
>> > and it looks like it came out pretty good.  I learned everything I know
>> > about body work during the OShit's back east.    I studied under the
>> > Italian master.  I could not find any Taco Bell wrappers so I had to use
>> > a local wrappers from Taco Time.  I hope the last as long as the Taco
>> > Bell wrappers.  Throw in a a few zip screws and some bondo and it looks
>> > almost like a professional job.  I have just finished the tub and here
>> > is short list of things I learned:
>> >
>> > 1.  Things that are higher than the surrounding metal are hard to fix.
>> > 2.  Final color creates a lot more mist.  Don't leave your nice new cell
>> > phone out.
>> > 3.  Not sure I really know how to shoot color.
>> > 4.  I learned that I have a lot more to learn.
>> > 5.  Dust control.  I don't have a clue.
>> > 6.  When welding I now know how much heat will warp a panel.
>> > 7.  Plug welding holes is hard than it looks.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>  > Gilroy
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue May 13 20:21:11 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:21:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, I just write software you don't really expect me to know how to use it
:-)
She could try bringing the car to a Wesco Auto Body Supply, the one down by
SeaTac is pretty helpful.  They might be able to match the color.  I don't
know a shop here in western WA that might be able to help.

-g


On 5/13/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Spridgeteers,
>
> I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
> BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 13 21:22:46 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 21:22:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com><441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com><205cef430805131852s1b47e252mfb62582486ab0102@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190805131859k758836dn6f44166e5225245f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c8b571$f137d880$6801a8c0@shop>

<<she can smell the solvents and is not very happy with me.  I need a
new plan if I do this in the future; it got ugly for a while.>>

Just tell her to be THANKFUL you didn't use HER oven to "cure" some small stuff, Bill!!!

LOL

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 20:26:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:26:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] car cheating
Message-ID: <205cef430805131926s48ec93e8l8dd3a1e9538965fe@mail.gmail.com>

I have a confession to make I have been cheating on my Sprite. I finally
bought a VW Split Window bus. I have it stored at my friends junkyard where
i work on it and it is almost as rusty if not worse than Franks white Bugeye
was. I have loads of welding to do and I just stripped the camper kit out so
I can get to work. We are getting her started next week after I hose out all
the mouse poo. I just transferred the title so I wouldn't loose it and I
found the bus in Minnesota it was dirt cheap but the shipping went up almost
$400. more in 4 months so that was scary. I was surprised that the
transporters jayhawkautotransport.com transports non running vehicles at a
somewhat reasonable rate although the gas price hike was occurring across
the board. I'll be working on it at the junkyard so my neighbors don't freak
out with all the cutting noise and I'll need their lift. But Pinky keeps the
garage : ) My freewebs site for the bus is a little slow loading the
pictures but it works.
Linda

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

66 VW Split Window Bus
www.freewebs.com/lindagrunthaner

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue May 13 20:29:21 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:29:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805131929w2fc81f5fr791b06bbf291a4c6@mail.gmail.com>

Gilroy,
Wow I just got a message from Len with the same shop. Cool. If the color
matches I'll see if they can ship me some too.
Lin


On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, I just write software you don't really expect me to know how to use
> it :-)
> She could try bringing the car to a Wesco Auto Body Supply, the one down
> by SeaTac is pretty helpful.  They might be able to match the color.  I
> don't know a shop here in western WA that might be able to help.
>
> -g
>
>
> On 5/13/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Spridgeteers,
> >
> > I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2.
> > Enjoy.
> > BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
> > Linda
> >
> > 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue May 13 20:37:06 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:37:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <441250190805131859k758836dn6f44166e5225245f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C44F9E62.1608F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I put a big exhaust fan in the ceiling of the garage. It sucks out the fumes
and makes my wife happy. It keeps the dust down too.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue May 13 20:50:12 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com><441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com><205cef430805131852s1b47e252mfb62582486ab0102@mail.gmail.com><441250190805131859k758836dn6f44166e5225245f@mail.gmail.com>
	<005a01c8b571$f137d880$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <024101c8b56d$3b156620$6501a8c0@refisk>

Also, don't tell her that you use her washer and dryer to clean your shop 
rags.  :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Painted my MG


> <<she can smell the solvents and is not very happy with me.  I need a
> new plan if I do this in the future; it got ugly for a while.>>
>
> Just tell her to be THANKFUL you didn't use HER oven to "cure" some small 
> stuff, Bill!!!
>
> LOL

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 13 20:51:26 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:51:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48293A38.3080405@gmail.com>
	<441250190805131848h16157882m95264a70dd2a11da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482A53AE.7060407@comcast.net>

Bill Gilroy wrote:
> Try this link it swears it is viewable by anyone.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/wmgilroy/MGBodyWork
>
>   
Bill

It looks pretty good.
Now wet sand, or DA with 1200 then wet with 2000 and buff it up.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue May 13 20:58:31 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:58:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
Message-ID: <a41501c8b56e$648113f0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

Well, the last time was at the spring tuneup get-together at Franks. But
I do try to grease everything at every oil change.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Brad Fornal [tequila.brad at gmail.com]
Sent: 5/13/2008 8:35:41 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net;midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required 

I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I
have 
the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a
half 
drive to north Dallas, this Saturday. 
While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a 
while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and
rear 
brake bits on the car. 
I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part,
all 
twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit
of 
money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is
NOT 
an option. 
When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
Answers not required, but thought is.... 

Brad 

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www.myspace.com/tequilabrad 
_______________________________________________ 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May 13 21:06:35 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:06:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Group question,
 honest  answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <006701c8b572$5c69dcc0$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090805131803i6119f556j47166ed41a256352@mail.gmail.com>
	<006701c8b572$5c69dcc0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805132006r74216cb8vd8eba6a10dbc4f5a@mail.gmail.com>

Ah, you know what kind of a jerk I am.
Dave G, I have not forgotten you. I have just been busy round the house.
We'll talk again soon, I promise.

Brad

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:26 PM, JB at comcast <justbrits at comcast.net> wrote:

> <<BUT, even after that, you will REALLY want to keep it all greased then.>>
>
> Brad, I thought I took GOOD care of you and now you go and try to take food
> off my table by espousing taking CARE of what I sell!!
>
> Geesh!!!
>
> <VBG>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue May 13 21:06:35 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 22:06:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Group question,
 honest  answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <006701c8b572$5c69dcc0$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131800m686a881eq82d1e1a20565f26d@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090805131803i6119f556j47166ed41a256352@mail.gmail.com>
	<006701c8b572$5c69dcc0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805132006r74216cb8vd8eba6a10dbc4f5a@mail.gmail.com>

Ah, you know what kind of a jerk I am.
Dave G, I have not forgotten you. I have just been busy round the house.
We'll talk again soon, I promise.

Brad

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:26 PM, JB at comcast <justbrits at comcast.net> wrote:

> <<BUT, even after that, you will REALLY want to keep it all greased then.>>
>
> Brad, I thought I took GOOD care of you and now you go and try to take food
> off my table by espousing taking CARE of what I sell!!
>
> Geesh!!!
>
> <VBG>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 13 21:18:12 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 23:18:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482A59F4.3000300@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
>   
This past weekend, about a year since I did it last time or just before 
Carlisle every year. Adjusted the brakes too.
Tonight was figure out REAL wipers for the 58 since Carlisle is in 
PennsylRAINia and it is the big Sprite meet and it rains every day of 
every Sprite meet and at least one day every year at Carlisle Import. 
Tomorrow night is cobble up a top for the 58 out of what may be an MGA 
top but if I have no top, it will rain hard all the time, if I have a 
makeshift top, it will just rain enough to blow in the gaps.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May 13 21:33:11 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 20:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
In-Reply-To: <C44F9E62.1608F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <420799.76041.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> I put a big exhaust fan in the ceiling of the
> garage. It sucks out the fumes
> and makes my wife happy. It keeps the dust down too.

It all sounds very healthy to remove solvent fumes,
but you guys are missing out on free hallucinations.

Ron

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue May 13 22:08:38 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 00:08:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004601c8b578$30314f20$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Last October, before I put it away for the winter.  It'll get it again
on Thursday (hopefully) in preparation for the trip to Carlisle.
Generally speaking, my car gets a chassis lube at 1000 mile intervals.
Like you, Brad, I've found that it's FAR easier to just take good care
of the suspension than to rebuild it.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Brad Fornal
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:36 PM
To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required

I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I
have
the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a
half
drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a
while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and
rear
brake bits on the car.
I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part,
all
twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit
of
money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is
NOT
an option.
When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
Answers not required, but thought is....

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed May 14 05:51:37 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:51:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
Message-ID: <051420081151.20795.482AD249000656790000513B2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

AND that you didn't make the same mistake as a horror story I heard several years ago--a guy painted his car in the basement, red, I think, only to find that the mist had been picked up by the air conditioning system and distributed throughout his house.  Yep, red coating on all the furniture, beds, etc.  Wife not happy.  8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> <<she can smell the solvents and is not very happy with me.  I need a
> new plan if I do this in the future; it got ugly for a while.>>
> 
> Just tell her to be THANKFUL you didn't use HER oven to "cure" some small stuff, 
> Bill!!!
> 
> LOL
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed May 14 05:55:22 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:55:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
Message-ID: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Unrestored?  Deep Pink?  I wasn't aware they came in Deep Pink in '62.  Oh well, live and learn.  8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> Spridgeteers,
> I received a message from Anita the gal in Washington State who also owns a
> 62 deep pink Sprite and her Sprite is absolutely stunning. It is a low
> mileage pristine Sprite which she won "Best Original Unrestored Car in Show"
> last year. She said she is having difficulty matching her paint, she wanted
> to touch up a chip or two but the mix is wrong. I told her I would try and
> get some help. The only thing I can figure out is her paint is slightly
> faded so it wouldn't match. I asked her if a digitizer was used on her paint
> to get the color. I should know in a day or two of that answer. Is there any
> other way to match the color?
> 
> I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
> BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
> Linda
> 
> 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Wed May 14 06:15:16 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:15:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>

Hi,

So last Christmas my wife presented me a pair of the Bullet Mirrors  
sold, I believe, by Moss.

The problem is mounting them on my '79 Midget - the only place where  
it appears they can be mounted and be visible is on the front fenders  
forward of the doors...totally breaking the profile of the car and  
possibly not entirely legal.

I have played around with the design of a mirror ledge, currently  
carved out of foam, similar to the stock rectangular mirror mounting  
ledge matching the stock(?) bolt pattern - and it seems to be the  
optimal solution. It elevates the mirror up and away from the door so  
that it is functional. Ideal placement seems to be to place the mirror  
forward by about 1-2 inches - there is a sweet spot where the mirror  
is functionally forward to not get hit with one's arm and also not be  
in conflict with opening the vent window.

Anyway, before I go off and see about having such a thing milled is  
there an off the shelf solution that I have missed?

Nice mirrors - sad they do not mount on the door.

-m

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 06:19:16 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:19:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>

Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So last Christmas my wife presented me a pair of the Bullet Mirrors
> sold, I believe, by Moss.
>
> The problem is mounting them on my '79 Midget - the only place where
> it appears they can be mounted and be visible is on the front fenders
> forward of the doors...totally breaking the profile of the car and
> possibly not entirely legal.
>
> I have played around with the design of a mirror ledge, currently
> carved out of foam, similar to the stock rectangular mirror mounting
> ledge matching the stock(?) bolt pattern - and it seems to be the
> optimal solution. It elevates the mirror up and away from the door so
> that it is functional. Ideal placement seems to be to place the mirror
> forward by about 1-2 inches - there is a sweet spot where the mirror
> is functionally forward to not get hit with one's arm and also not be
> in conflict with opening the vent window.
>
> Anyway, before I go off and see about having such a thing milled is
> there an off the shelf solution that I have missed?
>
> Nice mirrors - sad they do not mount on the door.
>
> -m
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed May 14 06:23:51 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:23:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
References: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00b001c8b5bd$5ec20880$0201a8c0@midget>

> Unrestored?  Deep Pink?  I wasn't aware they came in Deep Pink in '62.  Oh 
> well, live and learn.  8^)

Do you have any idea how long it took to sell a Deep Pink Sprite??? There 
are probably 1963 Deep Pink Sprites out there, since the title generally 
reflects the year of the sale rather than the year of manufacture. 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 14 06:38:50 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 05:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net><12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
	<e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002701c8b5bf$ae235030$ae1df304@spider>

You might go to Google, click on Images at the top left, and enter Spridget
or Midget or Sprite. Scroll thru the pictures. Maybe there will be a
solution.  ...bill

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Wed May 14 06:40:42 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 05:40:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painted my MG
References: <051420081151.20795.482AD249000656790000513B2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001601c8b5bf$b9b49620$5d0b6f47@DBKF4T81>

Not too long ago a local developer built a string of 6 rowhomes just down 
the street from me. He usually "accepted" the lowest bid, which included one 
from The Rocket Surgeon Real Fine Painting Company to do the interiors. The 
painters kept the HVAC fans running while they were spraying "to help cut 
down on the fumes". I don't know how many call-backs there were on the HVAC 
systems after the homes were sold but it took while to figure out that 
furnace filters had been totally encrusted with overspray. I can tell you 
that the HVAC contractor is capable of multi-tasking ... for example, 
throwing things and swearing fluently at the same time.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dlancer7676 at comcast.net>

> AND that you didn't make the same mistake as a horror story I heard 
> several years ago--a guy painted his car in the basement, red, I think, 
> only to find that the mist had been picked up by the air conditioning 
> system and distributed throughout his house.  Yep, red coating on all the 
> furniture, beds, etc.  Wife not happy.  8^)
>
> --David C.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 06:43:56 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:43:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <482A59F4.3000300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40328B29D037EDEE966353B8CE0@phx.gbl>

I guess a hardtop would prevent rain?

----Original Message Follows----
From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>

Tonight was figure out REAL wipers for the 58 since Carlisle is in
PennsylRAINia and it is the big Sprite meet and it rains every day of
every Sprite meet and at least one day every year at Carlisle Import.
Tomorrow night is cobble up a top for the 58 out of what may be an MGA
top but if I have no top, it will rain hard all the time, if I have a
makeshift top, it will just rain enough to blow in the gaps.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed May 14 07:06:07 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:06:07 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
Message-ID: <2670706.1210770367839.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Linda,

Your friend needs to find a body/paint shop that has been around a while with a painter that has been painting for a while.  A good painter will mix white or whatever color and try it until they match the color as close as they can.

mike

-----Original Message-----
>From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
>Sent: May 13, 2008 9:27 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
>
>Spridgeteers,
>I received a message from Anita the gal in Washington State who also owns a
>62 deep pink Sprite and her Sprite is absolutely stunning. It is a low
>mileage pristine Sprite which she won "Best Original Unrestored Car in Show"
>last year. She said she is having difficulty matching her paint, she wanted
>to touch up a chip or two but the mix is wrong. I told her I would try and
>get some help. The only thing I can figure out is her paint is slightly
>faded so it wouldn't match. I asked her if a digitizer was used on her paint
>to get the color. I should know in a day or two of that answer. Is there any
>other way to match the color?
>
>I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
>BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
>Linda
>
>62 California Sprite (Pinky)
>www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
>_______________________________________________


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 07:04:34 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:04:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35C458CEF13681FBB75C44B8CE0@phx.gbl>

>>When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
>>Answers not required, but thought is....

But ... it's much easier for me to answer than to think ...

I haven't kept track of those 2 activities occuring at roughly the same 
time, but I can tell you that I haven't gotten 'down and dirty' 'while' 
greasing the spridget.  Certainly gives me pause for thought tho'.  ;)  Does 
it help the process in some way?

RD
( I just realized, through a noticed typo, that ED and RD are very close on 
the keyboard.  Of course, the fact that I was thinking of giving him credit 
for writing this may have had something to do with it.)


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

I am getting ready for another small road trip this weekend. Now that I have
the clutch issues resolved, we are taking the Sprite on a hour and a half
drive to north Dallas, this Saturday.
While making sure all is right and ready, I recalled that it had been a
while since I had greased all the suspension points, tie rod ends, and rear
brake bits on the car.
I had a bear of a time with a couple of zerks, but for the most part, all
twelve locations emitted clean grease when pressurized. I invested a bit of
money and time in the front suspension, letting it go, and wear again is NOT
an option.
When was the last time YOU got down, dirty and greased up your Spridget.
Answers not required, but thought is....

Brad

--
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From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Wed May 14 07:10:29 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 09:10:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net> 
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
	<e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98E7949D-0C89-4F63-A8B7-10D093AE23AF@Dartmouth.EDU>

On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??

NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my  
experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is  
acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light  
modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,  
steering wheel sizes, etc.

-m

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Wed May 14 08:01:06 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:01:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
Message-ID: <453332.81588.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brad,
   
  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the drive shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on all 12 or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are located. I can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68 Sprite.


Jim Gruber
Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
Cincinnati, OH

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Wed May 14 09:50:12 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] need a pair of tires
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603D28B15@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Hi All, I need two 155SR-13 Michelin ZX or XZX tires.  Either new or
gently used would be fine.  If you have them or even a lead to them,
please let me know.  Also, your price.  Many thanks,
Jack

Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 14 09:56:18 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:56:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <98E7949D-0C89-4F63-A8B7-10D093AE23AF@Dartmouth.EDU>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
	<e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<98E7949D-0C89-4F63-A8B7-10D093AE23AF@Dartmouth.EDU>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805140856u7ba46cc7l69d9f9eb1bced3bc@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Many years ago (1960s) I belonged to a group in England that rallied several
cars. One was midget that I never drove, but all of our cars used bullet
mirrors mounted about half way down the front wings and on the top of them.
That's where you get optimal vision. They looked kinda cool back then....

As to legality, tell them the car came stock that way. I'll bet there isn't
a soul at the inspection station or a single cop who is old enough to know
better....

Cheers!!
Jim - 68 Spridget in Dodge City

On 5/14/08, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> > Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??
>
>
> NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my
> experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is
> acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light
> modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,
> steering wheel sizes, etc.
>
>
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 10:01:20 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:01:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <453332.81588.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <453332.81588.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>

Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each side,
I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides of
the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie rod
end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake cable,
and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Brad,
>
>  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
> wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the drive
> shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on all 12
> or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are located. I
> can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68 Sprite.
>
>
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
> Cincinnati, OH
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 10:11:24 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:11:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>

>>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.

So, that's 4.

>>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk

So now we're up to 8.

>>and the tie rod end zerk

10

the E brake cable,

11

>>on top of the E brake rod pivot.

12

>>rear U joint

13

front U joint?

Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks changed 
).


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each side,
I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides of
the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie rod
end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake cable,
and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

 > Brad,
 >
 >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
 > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the drive
 > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on all 
12
 > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are located. I
 > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68 Sprite.
 >
 >
 > Jim Gruber
 > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
 > Cincinnati, OH

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 10:17:45 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:17:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>

You have TWO tie rod ends!
Or at least "I" do!!
How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole in the
car?

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> >>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.
>
> So, that's 4.
>
> >>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk
>
> So now we're up to 8.
>
> >>and the tie rod end zerk
>
> 10
>
> the E brake cable,
>
> 11
>
> >>on top of the E brake rod pivot.
>
> 12
>
> >>rear U joint
>
> 13
>
> front U joint?
>
> Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks changed
> ).
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
> Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each side,
> I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides of
> the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
> regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie rod
> end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake cable,
> and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.
>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>  > Brad,
>  >
>  >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
>  > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the drive
>  > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on all
> 12
>  > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are located.
> I
>  > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68
> Sprite.
>  >
>  >
>  > Jim Gruber
>  > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
>  > Cincinnati, OH
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 10:18:55 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805140918u23fa040eh508b03e0ce40dcaa@mail.gmail.com>

OH, and my steering rack takes 90 wt gear lube. I have new boots for it,
then I'll run it down to the local boat repair place, and have them put some
in.

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> >>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.
>
> So, that's 4.
>
> >>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk
>
> So now we're up to 8.
>
> >>and the tie rod end zerk
>
> 10
>
> the E brake cable,
>
> 11
>
> >>on top of the E brake rod pivot.
>
> 12
>
> >>rear U joint
>
> 13
>
> front U joint?
>
> Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks changed
> ).
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
> Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each side,
> I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides of
> the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
> regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie rod
> end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake cable,
> and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.
>
> Brad
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>  > Brad,
>  >
>  >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
>  > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the drive
>  > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on all
> 12
>  > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are located.
> I
>  > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68
> Sprite.
>  >
>  >
>  > Jim Gruber
>  > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
>  > Cincinnati, OH
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed May 14 10:19:19 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:19:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com><BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <684EACCC34E243DF800EFECD4BCE277D@NilesAD.von.gov>

> How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole in the
> car?

Pull the driveshaft.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 10:18:21 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:18:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805140856u7ba46cc7l69d9f9eb1bced3bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37DCE484989F0BC14FF689B8CE0@phx.gbl>

"a soul" ... I guess you want to be careful using those 2 words together 
like that??  :)

"a single cop" ... what about the married ones?

RD
a single fly lays 900 eggs in her lifetime.  Imagine how many a married one 
could lay!


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

Mark,

Many years ago (1960s) I belonged to a group in England that rallied several
cars. One was midget that I never drove, but all of our cars used bullet
mirrors mounted about half way down the front wings and on the top of them.
That's where you get optimal vision. They looked kinda cool back then....

As to legality, tell them the car came stock that way. I'll bet there isn't
a soul at the inspection station or a single cop who is old enough to know
better....

Cheers!!
Jim - 68 Spridget in Dodge City

On 5/14/08, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu> wrote:
 >
 > On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
 >
 > > Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??
 >
 >
 > NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my
 > experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is
 > acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light
 > modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,
 > steering wheel sizes, etc.
 >
 >
--
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca

http://www.team.net/archive

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 10:22:26 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:22:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <98E7949D-0C89-4F63-A8B7-10D093AE23AF@Dartmouth.EDU>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
	<e98d88090805140519l4d45e473o171d2f246dc0c3ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<98E7949D-0C89-4F63-A8B7-10D093AE23AF@Dartmouth.EDU>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805140922j4554058ey45e064d3ba4ab514@mail.gmail.com>

This reminds me of when I took the 65 Midget in for it's first inspection,
YEARS AGO.
The inspection guy tells me "your rear view mirror is cracked, it needs to
be replaced or I can't inspect the car. OR, you can put on some door
mirrors"
I asked him, "are the mirrors on the fenders not good enough?"
him "oh, I didn't see those there..."
Mark, take along a copy of the OS&M, and show them that they were a stock
option. Then you are in the clear. I put mine at the top of the arch on the
front wheel.

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Mark A. O'Neil <mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu>
wrote:

> On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> > Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??
>
> NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my
> experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is
> acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light
> modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,
> steering wheel sizes, etc.
>
> -m
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 10:24:58 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:24:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39823614978684A40059A9B8CE0@phx.gbl>

There should be a hole in the tunnel on the LH side with a rubber plug in 
it.
Bottom pic here:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/gearbox_tunnel.htm
I think that's it hiding behind the park brake handle.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

You have TWO tie rod ends!
Or at least "I" do!!
How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole in the
car?

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

 > >>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.
 >
 > So, that's 4.
 >
 > >>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk
 >
 > So now we're up to 8.
 >
 > >>and the tie rod end zerk
 >
 > 10
 >
 > the E brake cable,
 >
 > 11
 >
 > >>on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >
 > 12
 >
 > >>rear U joint
 >
 > 13
 >
 > front U joint?
 >
 > Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks 
changed
 > ).
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
 >
 > Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each 
side,
 > I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides 
of
 > the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
 > regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie 
rod
 > end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake 
cable,
 > and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >
 > Brad
 >
 > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
 > wrote:
 >
 >  > Brad,
 >  >
 >  >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
 >  > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the 
drive
 >  > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on 
all
 > 12
 >  > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are 
located.
 > I
 >  > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68
 > Sprite.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Jim Gruber
 >  > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
 >  > Cincinnati, OH
 > _______________________________________________
 > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
 >
 > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
 >
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 10:43:09 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:43:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140918u23fa040eh508b03e0ce40dcaa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40FDD32C2A7FC205DE5AEEB8CE0@phx.gbl>

I oil mine also, but .. "some" people grease theirs.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

OH, and my steering rack takes 90 wt gear lube. I have new boots for it,
then I'll run it down to the local boat repair place, and have them put some
in.

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

 > >>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.
 >
 > So, that's 4.
 >
 > >>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk
 >
 > So now we're up to 8.
 >
 > >>and the tie rod end zerk
 >
 > 10
 >
 > the E brake cable,
 >
 > 11
 >
 > >>on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >
 > 12
 >
 > >>rear U joint
 >
 > 13
 >
 > front U joint?
 >
 > Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks 
changed
 > ).
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
 >
 > Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each 
side,
 > I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both sides 
of
 > the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to on a
 > regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the tie 
rod
 > end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake 
cable,
 > and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >
 > Brad
 >
 > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
 > wrote:
 >
 >  > Brad,
 >  >
 >  >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. I'm
 >  > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the 
drive
 >  > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound on 
all
 > 12
 >  > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are 
located.
 > I
 >  > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68
 > Sprite.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Jim Gruber
 >  > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
 >  > Cincinnati, OH
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 11:10:37 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:10:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805141002m61fb95fdg25cae701394249c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37833D98607877A391F4ADB8CE0@phx.gbl>

Well, if you ever find it, let me know ... and I'll check to see that mine 
is done right. :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

Hmnmm...   Looks as though the same butcher worked on my 68 Midget too.
I've looked through the repair manuals but couldn't find where it says:
"Take a double bit ax and a sawzall to the tranny hump and don't stop until
you've created a piece of modern art". It must be in there somewhere.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/14/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
 >
 > There should be a hole in the tunnel on the LH side with a rubber plug in
 > it.
 > Bottom pic here:
 > http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/gearbox_tunnel.htm
 > I think that's it hiding behind the park brake handle.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
 >
 > You have TWO tie rod ends!
 > Or at least "I" do!!
 > How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole in the
 > car?
 >
 > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Robert Duquette <
 > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
 >
 >   > >>The rebuilt units had zerks on both sides of the fulcrum pin.
 >   >
 >   > So, that's 4.
 >   >
 >   > >>I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk
 >   >
 >   > So now we're up to 8.
 >   >
 >   > >>and the tie rod end zerk
 >   >
 >   > 10
 >   >
 >   > the E brake cable,
 >   >
 >   > 11
 >   >
 >   > >>on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >   >
 >   > 12
 >   >
 >   > >>rear U joint
 >   >
 >   > 13
 >   >
 >   > front U joint?
 >   >
 >   > Some people grease the steering rack zerk ( no idea when the racks
 > changed
 >   > ).
 >   >
 >   >
 >   > ----Original Message Follows----
 >   > From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
 >   >
 >   > Well, to be honest, you reminded me I forgot my rear U joint. On each
 > side,
 >   > I have 5 zerks. The rebuilt units (thank you Ed) had zerks on both
 > sides
 > of
 >   > the fulcrum pin. There is NO WAY that they will go dry, if tended to 
on
 > a
 >   > regular schedule. I have the upper and lower kingpin zerk, and the 
tie
 > rod
 >   > end zerk. Then I got to the back of the car, and greased the E brake
 > cable,
 >   > and the zerk on top of the E brake rod pivot.
 >   >
 >   > Brad
 >   >
 >   > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:01 AM, James Gruber 
<thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
 >   > wrote:
 >   >
 >   >  > Brad,
 >   >  >
 >   >  >  Since you just went through the process of greasing your  '68. 
I'm
 >   >  > wondering how you came up with an even number. Did you include the
 > drive
 >   >  > shaft grease fitting? So for all the new listers, can you expound 
on
 > all
 >   > 12
 >   >  > or perhaps 13 grease fittings on a Spridget and where they are
 > located.
 >   > I
 >   >  > can't recall that many, the last time I greased Bugsy, also a '68
 >   > Sprite.
 >   >  >
 >   >  >
 >   >  > Jim Gruber
 >   >  > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
 >   >  > Cincinnati, OH

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 11:10:48 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:10:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39823614978684A40059A9B8CE0@phx.gbl>
References: <e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F39823614978684A40059A9B8CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805141010q6d3c4b2y4676bfcd243816a5@mail.gmail.com>

I wonder if my "standard" grease gun will fit in there. I have one of those
Telcamit ones, but I have never tried to use it. Are they very effective?

Brad

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> There should be a hole in the tunnel on the LH side with a rubber plug in
> it.
> Bottom pic here:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/gearbox_tunnel.htm
> I think that's it hiding behind the park brake handle.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed May 14 11:18:54 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:18:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
Message-ID: <8B37F201-C445-457E-BA50-D4258EB02527@mac.com>

Mark,

If your Bullet Mirrors are the Talbot type (rather than the racing  
type) you can see them on my Bugeye at Ed's site. As I recall it is  
near the bottom of his Special People Special Cars page.  These are  
located for best rearward vision rather than looks, although I like  
the look.  I can send you the distance from the windshield if it  
looks like something you want to do.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 14, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So last Christmas my wife presented me a pair of the Bullet Mirrors
> sold, I believe, by Moss.
>
> The problem is mounting them on my '79 Midget - the only place where
> it appears they can be mounted and be visible is on the front fenders
> forward of the doors...totally breaking the profile of the car and
> possibly not entirely legal.
>
> I have played around with the design of a mirror ledge, currently
> carved out of foam, similar to the stock rectangular mirror mounting
> ledge matching the stock(?) bolt pattern - and it seems to be the
> optimal solution. It elevates the mirror up and away from the door so
> that it is functional. Ideal placement seems to be to place the mirror
> forward by about 1-2 inches - there is a sweet spot where the mirror
> is functionally forward to not get hit with one's arm and also not be
> in conflict with opening the vent window.
>
> Anyway, before I go off and see about having such a thing milled is
> there an off the shelf solution that I have missed?
>
> Nice mirrors - sad they do not mount on the door.
>
> -m
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed May 14 11:22:00 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:22:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <300930E9-A5A7-405D-8072-F2235542F159@mac.com>

Cut a hole in the car.  The dealer did that to mine when it went in  
for it's first service.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 14, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole  
> in the
> car?

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 14 12:30:10 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:30:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] need a pair of tires
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603D28B15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <013c01c8b5f0$8b1f6c50$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Hi All, I need two 155SR-13 Michelin ZX or XZX tires.  Either new or
gently used would be fine.>>

Any you find will be PAST viable usage date, Jack.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 14 12:32:26 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:32:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com><441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131929w2fc81f5fr791b06bbf291a4c6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014401c8b5f0$dc4c1010$6801a8c0@shop>

<<If the color matches I'll see if they can ship me some too.>>

It STILL will NOT match YOUR car, Linda<G>!!  

You have to have YOUR car scanned.  And decent body shop "can" do it these days.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 14 12:34:10 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 12:34:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
	<482A59F4.3000300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <014a01c8b5f1$1a7685a0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<it will rain hard all the time, if I have a 
makeshift top, it will just rain enough to blow in the gaps.>>

It was thru the "gaps" that got Diane THAT wet, Frank???  LOL

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 11:39:16 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:39:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] need a pair of tires
In-Reply-To: <013c01c8b5f0$8b1f6c50$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34AE23FECEDB1D4E802FE7B8CE0@phx.gbl>

doesn't Coker or someone like that advertize the X tires?

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>

<<Hi All, I need two 155SR-13 Michelin ZX or XZX tires.  Either new or
gently used would be fine.>>

Any you find will be PAST viable usage date, Jack.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May 14 12:07:13 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:07:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
References: <mailman.12322.1210732139.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<12413C67-A0C0-4825-98E6-367645134897@dartmouth.edu>
Message-ID: <482B2A51.9020206@comcast.net>

I have a bullet mirror on the door of my 67, same door as a 79.
I just glued 2 washers under the lower edge of the mirror base to jack 
it up just enough so it works.
I think I ground down the outer edge of the washers so they were flat, 
you can not see them. Quick, easy, but a tapered piece of aluminum would 
be better but I was in a hurry.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 14 12:28:59 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:28:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach connections
Message-ID: <482B2F6B.1060206@smarc.net>

Hi!

I screwed something up, and my wiring diagrams are lame (apparently so 
is my eyesight...)

Got new harness in, one last checkout (on battery charger, 2 amp 
setting) before I hook the battery up & try it out. When I energize the 
ignition, the tach swings to about mid-scale (engine not running). I 
have the white/black connected to the bullet connector on the back of 
the tach, the green spade on the terminal right next to the white/black. 
Theres a few black ground wires on a ring terminal, they are attached to 
the mounting post. There is a ground terminal directly on the case of 
the tach, but that was never used originally...

So, does that green wire NOT go there?

-- 

Marc

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed May 14 12:39:45 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:39:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <300930E9-A5A7-405D-8072-F2235542F159@mac.com>
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
	<300930E9-A5A7-405D-8072-F2235542F159@mac.com>
Message-ID: <AF74CACA-4624-4091-943A-19092610FE52@mac.com>

Should have added that the hole is through the under carriage sheet  
metal.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 14, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Cut a hole in the car.  The dealer did that to mine when it went in
> for it's first service.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On May 14, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>> How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole
>> in the
>> car?
> _______________________________________________
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed May 14 12:55:44 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 11:55:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] need a pair of tires
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F34AE23FECEDB1D4E802FE7B8CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C45083C0.160F0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> doesn't Coker or someone like that advertize the X tires?
I think they have the original Michelin X style tires, but as I recall those
lasted forever and had the grip of a smooth rock.
BZ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 14 13:34:11 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" It's getting close now!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805141234l5c898672md0102c4e6d6c3836@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Time is really flying by!   The last day to get a room at the event
headquarters hotel at the special reduced rate is May 23rd - just a week
away!!  Call them NOW at 1-800-348-4731!!  Also you have only through June
1st to register at the reduced registration rate of $50 per car!  After June
1st the price will be $75 per car!  We'll count the postmark on your mail-in
registration form, but it's much quicker to register only from the website
at:  http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org/registration.html

We've put up a professional picture of the Limited Special Edition Grille
Badge made for us by Car Badges Direct (the same company that is doing the
MG2008 badges). You can see it on Frank Clarici's Bugeye or view a large
image of it at: http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/grille_badge.pdf  These
are going to sell out and are only available to event attendees so get your
order in ASAP!  Call me or email me and I'll reserve one for you until they
are all spoken for.

We have two great photographers signed up for the event. Tony Lipari will be
doing the panoramic photo with beautiful Lake of the Ozarks as a backdrop.
Dale Delugosh will make stills of everyone and their cars available with the
event logo on them. Dale will also be doing a DVD of the entire event which
will be available for purchase. Dale says the portrait pictures should be
available at the banquet.

The awards plaques are in and they are absolutely beautiful!  There are 50
different awards to be won!

The collection of loot for door prizes and registration packets continues to
pile up. Carolyn will have to drive our big pick-up to haul everything in.
(I've got all I can do to shoe horn myself into the Spridget!)

We are still looking for sponsorship for one or two of the evening parties
in the hospitality room. Let me know if you are interested. Also, bring your
spares along to sell in the hotel parking lot area!  There is no charge for
vendors or general swap-meet type stuff.

As always, if you have any questions, comments suggestions or whatever, you
can email us at SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com or simply give me a call at any
time on my cell (620.408.6877) If I don't answer just leave a message and
I'll call you back.

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 14 13:37:18 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:37:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] be careful out there
Message-ID: <BAY112-F38EE13E7F67AFBA9BAE2BEB8CE0@phx.gbl>

I heard a blurb on the radio a couple of days ago about a 47 year old man 
getting trapped under a car that fell on him while he was working on it on 
his driveway.  Some kids heard him call for help.  He's going to live, but 
he's seriously injured.  I have no idea if it was Brit car or not.

RD

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 14 13:41:16 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] be careful out there
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F38EE13E7F67AFBA9BAE2BEB8CE0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F38EE13E7F67AFBA9BAE2BEB8CE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805141241k5da772crbab06f7cd410d31f@mail.gmail.com>

Well the problem is obvious to me!  At 47 he's way too young to appreciate
an LBC!  It was probably Detroit Iron....    ;-)

I don't wish that on anyone...   Robert's right, double check your jack
stands
and block those wheels guys and gals.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 5/14/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> I heard a blurb on the radio a couple of days ago about a 47 year old man
> getting trapped under a car that fell on him while he was working on it on
> his driveway.  Some kids heard him call for help.  He's going to live, but
> he's seriously injured.  I have no idea if it was Brit car or not.
>
> RD


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 14 13:42:52 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:42:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach connections
In-Reply-To: <482B2F6B.1060206@smarc.net>
References: <482B2F6B.1060206@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <482B40BC.1020102@smarc.net>

Umm, apparently it just didn't like my battery charger....

Marc



Marc wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I screwed something up, and my wiring diagrams are lame (apparently so 
> is my eyesight...)
>
> Got new harness in, one last checkout (on battery charger, 2 amp 
> setting) before I hook the battery up & try it out. When I energize the 
> ignition, the tach swings to about mid-scale (engine not running). I 
> have the white/black connected to the bullet connector on the back of 
> the tach, the green spade on the terminal right next to the white/black. 
> Theres a few black ground wires on a ring terminal, they are attached to 
> the mounting post. There is a ground terminal directly on the case of 
> the tach, but that was never used originally...
>
> So, does that green wire NOT go there?

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed May 14 13:56:47 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:56:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] mg midget fenders
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131201p6ed99856j968d85aaf396ab5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <627746.74954.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88090805131201p6ed99856j968d85aaf396ab5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940292183C@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

It took me several years to notice this on my car.  After a little
kissing with a Mini Cooper through the hairpin at Grattan, I had to
replace my left front fender. Several years later, I was looking at one
of those "on-track" action photos the guys peddle in the paddock and I
noticed the different parking light heights on my racer. Rick Fisk
explained the year-change thing to me. I never saw it before. Now, I
can't keep from hating it!
JohnD


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:02 PM
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Cc: spridgets; ED; Vigil; Sprite
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] mg midget fenders

On the 68-69, the front marker lamp sits closer to the headlamp bucket,
due
to the thickness of the chrome bumper. On the cars with the skinny
chrome
bumper, the lamps are moved lower, to balance out the space between the
headlamp and bumper.
If you look in the OS&M, you will see the lovely blue Sprite, with
mismatched front wings, at the beginning of the MKIV Sprite section. I
forget the page #, and my copy is at home, not work. It isn't
*real*obvious, but once you see it, your eyes are drawn to it, every
time you see
it afterwards.


Brad

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:41 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Are the 68-69 front fenders the same as the ones in the 74? I know
they
> were all called Mark III, Just not sure if they are interchangeable.
So i
> figured i would ask the more knowledhgeable people in the group.
>
>  Vigil
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed May 14 14:03:14 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:03:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805140901i4f1f260m26a6b8fba2323747@mail.gmail.com><BAY112-F36E8BA204D5BC84435F6D0B8CE0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090805140917p57b7688dr673899512c95ad10@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940292183D@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

My '67 Sprite has a hole to get at it--but I think it also had a Buick
V-6 and a GM 4-speed once and the hole was a bit of a necessity to get
the shifter into the cockpit.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Robert Duquette
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease

You have TWO tie rod ends!
Or at least "I" do!!
How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole in
the
car?

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 14 14:09:56 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:09:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>
References: <481BFE4F.6050502@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <482B4714.8030609@smarc.net>

I am installing the missing shims in my kingpins. So far I've put .045 
worth of shims on the left side, yet it still binds when you tighten the 
nut down. Is there a usual range of shims normally required? Could I 
have damage in the "seat" area on the trunnion that bolts to the damper 
lever?

I have no idea what's normal here; I've only installed rebuilt units in 
the past that were set up properly.

Marc



Marc wrote:
> I need  some advice to work out the tight steering issue with my 73 
> midget. The car had sat for at least 5 years before I got it. Maybe 
> more... I got a bunch of receipts with it, someone spent a lotta bucks 
> on it.
>
> Among the items were rebuilt kingpins, which clearly have been installed 
> in the car. I have no idea who rebuilt them, but they look nice anyway...
>
> With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the 
> steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and 
> refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It 
> moves smoothly.
>
> When driving, it still feels tight, and will not self-center. The wheel 
> will just stay in a turn. A while ago, someone  mentioned that sometimes 
> a washer or bushing is left out of the kingpins, and I should loosen up 
> the kingpin nut to see if that helps.
>
> I went to do that and found the kingput nuts were already loose. Way 
> loose, actually. There's no way that they should be that loose.
>
> I was also told to check/loosen the large nut on the rack, and also to 
> check the shims. This I could use a little guidance with.
>
> But it seems to me that if the steering is still tight with the kingpin 
> nuts so loose, maybe it's not a kingpin problem. So I'm going to torque 
> those nuts to spec (40 ft/lbs I think).

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed May 14 14:28:52 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 13:28:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805140856u7ba46cc7l69d9f9eb1bced3bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91512.80725.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The best place I have seen the mirrors is on the triangle at the bottom front corner of the wind wing and door seam. The wind wing still operates and you can see them fine. 
   
  The drivers mirror on the wing works great. The one on the opposite side is hard to see so does not work well for me. I have heard others say they had the same problem with the same wing mirror too. But Jim is correct. They were considered cool and the car dealers put them on for a few extra $$$
   
  NH - Mirror Law
   
  I went to the DMV site and could not find one. Can you tell me the code number. 
   
  Thanks,   
   
  V.
  SoCal
   
  

Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
  Mark,

Many years ago (1960s) I belonged to a group in England that rallied several
cars. One was midget that I never drove, but all of our cars used bullet
mirrors mounted about half way down the front wings and on the top of them.
That's where you get optimal vision. They looked kinda cool back then....

As to legality, tell them the car came stock that way. I'll bet there isn't
a soul at the inspection station or a single cop who is old enough to know
better....

Cheers!!
Jim - 68 Spridget in Dodge City

On 5/14/08, Mark A. O'Neil wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> > Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??
>
>
> NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my
> experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is
> acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light
> modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,
> steering wheel sizes, etc.
>
>
-- 
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed May 14 14:47:04 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:47:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mounting those bullet style mirrors?
In-Reply-To: <91512.80725.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e0805140856u7ba46cc7l69d9f9eb1bced3bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<91512.80725.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805141347m34169fc2l4f597563153ee28d@mail.gmail.com>

The only problem I have with the right side mirror, and even the left side,
is when some lard ass hits it, waddling past the car.
Once they are set, they work fine, but those wide butts knock them out of
place pretty easily.
I guess that is one of the curses of driving a car that sits so close to the
ground.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The best place I have seen the mirrors is on the triangle at the bottom
> front corner of the wind wing and door seam. The wind wing still operates
> and you can see them fine.
>
>  The drivers mirror on the wing works great. The one on the opposite side
> is hard to see so does not work well for me. I have heard others say they
> had the same problem with the same wing mirror too. But Jim is correct. They
> were considered cool and the car dealers put them on for a few extra $$$
>
>  NH - Mirror Law
>
>  I went to the DMV site and could not find one. Can you tell me the code
> number.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  V.
>  SoCal
>
>
>
> Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Mark,
>
> Many years ago (1960s) I belonged to a group in England that rallied
> several
> cars. One was midget that I never drove, but all of our cars used bullet
> mirrors mounted about half way down the front wings and on the top of them.
> That's where you get optimal vision. They looked kinda cool back then....
>
> As to legality, tell them the car came stock that way. I'll bet there isn't
> a soul at the inspection station or a single cop who is old enough to know
> better....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 Spridget in Dodge City
>
> On 5/14/08, Mark A. O'Neil wrote:
> >
> > On May 14, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
> >
> > > Where do you live, that fender mirrors are illegal??
> >
> >
> > NH - and I am not sure at this point what is legal or not here - my
> > experience in other states is that they can be particular to what is
> > acceptable or not if it was not a 'stock' option: eg: tail light
> > modifications, headlamp grills, relocating mirrors, bumper mods,
> > steering wheel sizes, etc.
> >
> >
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration...
> You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
>
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>
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed May 14 15:22:51 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:22:51 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Tight Steering
In-Reply-To: <482B4714.8030609@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <007201c8b608$ab5b2550$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Marc,
That does seem to be quite a lot.
It may be OK to continue to add more shims.  But check that someone hasn't
attempted a "fix" previously by adding an extra washer between the correct
phosphor-bronze one and the trunnion itself. Someone might have thought this
was a good idea!

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Marc
Sent: 14 May 2008 21:10
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tight Steering

I am installing the missing shims in my kingpins. So far I've put .045
worth of shims on the left side, yet it still binds when you tighten the
nut down. Is there a usual range of shims normally required? Could I
have damage in the "seat" area on the trunnion that bolts to the damper
lever?

I have no idea what's normal here; I've only installed rebuilt units in
the past that were set up properly.

Marc



Marc wrote:
> I need  some advice to work out the tight steering issue with my 73
> midget. The car had sat for at least 5 years before I got it. Maybe
> more... I got a bunch of receipts with it, someone spent a lotta bucks
> on it.
>
> Among the items were rebuilt kingpins, which clearly have been installed
> in the car. I have no idea who rebuilt them, but they look nice anyway...
>
> With the front wheels off the ground, it took much force to spin the
> steering wheel. I spent a while (hours!) flushing out the rack, and
> refilled it. Now you can turn it from lock to lock with one finger. It
> moves smoothly.
>
> When driving, it still feels tight, and will not self-center. The wheel
> will just stay in a turn. A while ago, someone  mentioned that sometimes
> a washer or bushing is left out of the kingpins, and I should loosen up
> the kingpin nut to see if that helps.
>
> I went to do that and found the kingput nuts were already loose. Way
> loose, actually. There's no way that they should be that loose.
>
> I was also told to check/loosen the large nut on the rack, and also to
> check the shims. This I could use a little guidance with.
>
> But it seems to me that if the steering is still tight with the kingpin
> nuts so loose, maybe it's not a kingpin problem. So I'm going to torque
> those nuts to spec (40 ft/lbs I think).
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed May 14 15:33:51 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 21:33:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach connections*
Message-ID: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hey--Speaking of wiring diagrams being lame and our aging eyesight failing, several years ago I took the wiring diagram to a copier that would blow images up and made super-size images of separate parts of the diagram.  I then assembled the separate parts into one big poster-size image of the wiring diagram and taped it together.  Then I took colored pencils and colored in the wire colors.  It helps me to see the wires and follow them on their routes.  If you didn't want to go to all the trouble of cutting and taping, I think places like Kinko will just blow the page up to poster size for you.

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
> Hi!
> 
> I screwed something up, and my wiring diagrams are lame (apparently so 
> is my eyesight...)
> 
> Got new harness in, one last checkout (on battery charger, 2 amp 
> setting) before I hook the battery up & try it out. When I energize the 
> ignition, the tach swings to about mid-scale (engine not running). I 
> have the white/black connected to the bullet connector on the back of 
> the tach, the green spade on the terminal right next to the white/black. 
> Theres a few black ground wires on a ring terminal, they are attached to 
> the mounting post. There is a ground terminal directly on the case of 
> the tach, but that was never used originally...
> 
> So, does that green wire NOT go there?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Marc
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From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 14 16:15:33 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:15:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Schematics was Re:  Tach connections*
In-Reply-To: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <482B6485.6080104@smarc.net>

I got a fantastic drawing for the MGB from advanceautowire.com, but they 
don't have one for a midget. For the midget, I basically worked off the 
generic british wiring color code chart...

Marc



dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:
> Hey--Speaking of wiring diagrams being lame and our aging eyesight failing, several years ago I took the wiring diagram to a copier that would blow images up and made super-size images of separate parts of the diagram.  I then assembled the separate parts into one big poster-size image of the wiring diagram and taped it together.  Then I took colored pencils and colored in the wire colors.  It helps me to see the wires and follow them on their routes.  If you didn't want to go to all the trouble of cutting and taping, I think places like Kinko will just blow the page up to poster size for you.
>
> --David C.
> "Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 14 16:21:02 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 15:21:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
In-Reply-To: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>

Yes; done that. ...bill (65)

==============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Marc; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tach connections*

Hey--Speaking of wiring diagrams being lame and our aging eyesight failing,
several years ago I took the wiring diagram to a copier that would blow
images up and made super-size images of separate parts of the diagram.  I
then assembled the separate parts into one big poster-size image of the
wiring diagram and taped it together.  Then I took colored pencils and
colored in the wire colors.  It helps me to see the wires and follow them on
their routes.  If you didn't want to go to all the trouble of cutting and
taping, I think places like Kinko will just blow the page up to poster size
for you.

--David C.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 14 16:29:19 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:29:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
In-Reply-To: <00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>

I was going to suggest you check out Prospero's Garage website. I bought
beautiful full color 11.5" x 17" laminated wiring diagrams for all my older
vehicles there and they are a Godsend! However...  I just tried to go to the
site and it doesn't seem to be there anymore!  Anyone know what happened to
it?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 5:21 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Yes; done that. ...bill (65)
>
> ==============================================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis <spridgets-bounces%2Bcorvallis>=
> peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: Marc; Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tach connections*
>
> Hey--Speaking of wiring diagrams being lame and our aging eyesight failing,
> several years ago I took the wiring diagram to a copier that would blow
> images up and made super-size images of separate parts of the diagram.  I
> then assembled the separate parts into one big poster-size image of the
> wiring diagram and taped it together.  Then I took colored pencils and
> colored in the wire colors.  It helps me to see the wires and follow them
> on
> their routes.  If you didn't want to go to all the trouble of cutting and
> taping, I think places like Kinko will just blow the page up to poster size
> for you.
>
> --David C.
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 14 17:35:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:35:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
	<43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fd01c8b61b$2cb48760$6801a8c0@shop>

Did you google it, Jim??

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 14 17:35:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:35:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
	<43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01fd01c8b61b$2cb48760$6801a8c0@shop>

Did you google it, Jim??

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed May 14 16:36:53 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:36:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
	<43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00f101c8b613$02c025c0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    e-Bay "color wiring healey"

    Or I think it might be prosperos-wiring-diagrams.

    They are still there. In fact, I asked them about a diagram for a Triumph
Trident and they made one up in just a couple weeks.

    Get some for your family and friends!

                                                                             
   CB

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 14 16:48:34 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:48:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
In-Reply-To: <01fd01c8b61b$2cb48760$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
	<43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fd01c8b61b$2cb48760$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805141548s151cc41ak1e738013cc1b3ae4@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah.  Maybe they changed hands or something.  They used to be at
slash5.comand then they moved to
www.colorwiringdiagrams.com.  Neither of those URLs are any good anymore.
I guess he closed down his web store and is working through Ebay only
nowadays...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> Did you google it, Jim??
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From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Wed May 14 17:38:55 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:38:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach connections*
In-Reply-To: <mailman.12392.1210803320.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.12392.1210803320.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <9028820F-A557-4B50-AE44-81EFAB57A583@dartmouth.edu>

On May 14, 2008, at 6:15 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Hey--Speaking of wiring diagrams being lame and our aging eyesight  
> failing, several years ago I took the wiring diagram to a copier  
> that would blow images up and made super-size images of separate  
> parts of the diagram.  I then assembled the separate parts into one  
> big poster-size image of the wiring diagram and taped it together.   
> Then I took colored pencils and colored in the wire colors.  It  
> helps me to see the wires and follow them on their routes.  If you  
> didn't want to go to all the trouble of cutting and taping, I think  
> places like Kinko will just blow the page up to poster size for you.

There is a guy on eBay who sells laminated colored wiring diagrams -   
I bought one for the '79 - the diagram measures around 11x17 or so.

I recall it was around $20 or so.

A poster of that for on the garage wall (right next to my ancient  
Colossal Cave Map) would be sweet.

-m

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed May 14 17:42:16 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:42:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BIG wiring diagram
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805141548s151cc41ak1e738013cc1b3ae4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<00f401c8b610$ccb1b770$ae1df304@spider>
	<43840a7e0805141529h6f566e6fu2052c639c1d20227@mail.gmail.com>
	<01fd01c8b61b$2cb48760$6801a8c0@shop>
	<43840a7e0805141548s151cc41ak1e738013cc1b3ae4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <482B78D8.4030801@cox.net>

Was just on eBay and found one of his auctions...


*http://tinyurl.com/5bzh2j*

*
*

Note, his pictures are pinned to his web site which Jim has already told 
us, is down.


Sounds more like he is just having web site hosting problems.


Paul

**

**

**


Jim Johnson wrote:

> Yeah.  Maybe they changed hands or something.  They used to be at
> slash5.comand then they moved to
> www.colorwiringdiagrams.com.  Neither of those URLs are any good anymore.
> I guess he closed down his web store and is working through Ebay only
> nowadays...
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Did you google it, Jim??
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed May 14 17:54:33 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:54:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
Message-ID: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>

Somewhere on one of the restoration sites was a description of a metal lap joint in which one side is bent in a Z shape so that the resulting joint is flat on one side.  That guy crimped them by hand in a modified vise, but there is apparently a machine that rolls it.  Can anyone tell me the name of that joint/machine?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May 14 18:11:25 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:11:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
Message-ID: <774462867.20080514171125@pacifier.com>

Hello Michael,

     i've heard of rolling a "J" but never a "Z".. but that's with
     papers not metal... ..and we just twisted the ends, we didn't
     crimp 'em.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I'm always exhausted by Friday," said Tom weakly.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed May 14 18:58:30 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:58:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilt SU HS2 carb set $100 on Craig's List
Message-ID: <1c098a438b4a64410a5f28a.20080514175830.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Found these on Craig's List out my way looking for front suspension parts
to upgrade my Bugeye to disc brakes.  No financial interst, yada, yada.


http://tinyurl.com/6lg8d8

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed May 14 19:24:27 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:24:27 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Morris Woody & parts in Canada - What is it worth?
Message-ID: <9898417.1210814667754.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

FYI - found on another list - It's in Canada, eh?

Best,

Rick

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Mike Todesco <michaeltodesco at shaw.ca>
Sent: May 14, 2008 4:58 PM

Hi All,

I have a 1958 Morris Traveller that I bought totally dismantled with a collection of extra parts that includes:

5 engines (one is the original) one is a 1275 and a few transmissions 
over $1000 worth of replacement sheetmetal mostly floor pans front beams etc 
the original wood is rotten but I have some of it, and I have many spare parts - boxes of them.  Can anyone give me an idea of a fair price, I would like to unload it all and reclaim my basement and garage 

I am in Calgary Canada

Thanks,
Mike Todesco <michaeltodesco at shaw.ca>

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Wed May 14 20:34:39 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:34:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease
Message-ID: <3934701c8b634$3980b4f0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

Or get a 1500. Hole provided by the factory! :)
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Kitterer Bob [bkitterer at mac.com]
Sent: 5/14/2008 1:22:00 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 12 Places to Grease 

Cut a hole in the car. The dealer did that to mine when it went in 
for it's first service. 

Bob Kitterer 

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 
2000 Miata Special Edition 




On May 14, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: 

> How does one get to the front U joint zerk, without cutting a hole 
> in the 
> car? 
_______________________________________________ 

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 14 20:49:06 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:49:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Schematics was Re:  Tach connections*
In-Reply-To: <482B6485.6080104@smarc.net>
References: <051420082133.20772.482B5ABF000BA76C000051242215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>,
	<482B6485.6080104@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <482B4232.3142.2BB03D0@dmg.bossig.com>

The laminated wiring diagram I bought from Prospero's Garage for the '64 - 
'67 Spridget (Sprite or MG) has errors...


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From duncan at pondhop.com  Wed May 14 21:42:40 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:42:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

I think what you are referring to is a joggler.
Something like this one?
http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1657&itemType=PRODUCT

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Michael Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:55 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint

Somewhere on one of the restoration sites was a description of a metal lap
joint in which one side is bent in a Z shape so that the resulting joint is
flat on one side.  That guy crimped them by hand in a modified vise, but
there is apparently a machine that rolls it.  Can anyone tell me the name of
that joint/machine?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
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From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May 15 05:03:06 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 07:03:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
Message-ID: <482C186A.1090301@smarc.net>

That one from eastwood is expensive... How about 
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696

Marc



Duncan Sinclair wrote:
> I think what you are referring to is a joggler.
> Something like this one?
> http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1657&itemType=PRODUCT
>
> Thanks
> Duncan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Michael Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:55 PM
> To: Spridget Chat Group
> Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
>
> Somewhere on one of the restoration sites was a description of a metal lap
> joint in which one side is bent in a Z shape so that the resulting joint is
> flat on one side.  That guy crimped them by hand in a modified vise, but
> there is apparently a machine that rolls it.  Can anyone tell me the name of
> that joint/machine?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu May 15 06:50:49 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:50:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
Message-ID: <051520081250.3994.482C31A90000AF1D00000F9A2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I have the one from Harbor Freight and it has worked very well.  Just be sure to get your flesh out of the way before you push the flanging button.  Don't ask me how I know (pain, pain.)  8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
> That one from eastwood is expensive... How about 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696
> 
> Marc
> 
> 
> 
> Duncan Sinclair wrote:
> > I think what you are referring to is a joggler.
> > Something like this one?
> > http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1657&itemType=PRODUCT
> >
> > Thanks
> > Duncan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> > Michael Rowe
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:55 PM
> > To: Spridget Chat Group
> > Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
> >
> > Somewhere on one of the restoration sites was a description of a metal lap
> > joint in which one side is bent in a Z shape so that the resulting joint is
> > flat on one side.  That guy crimped them by hand in a modified vise, but
> > there is apparently a machine that rolls it.  Can anyone tell me the name of
> > that joint/machine?
> >
> > Michael Rowe
> > '74 Midget
> > Long Island, NY
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu May 15 07:24:04 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:24:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <482C186A.1090301@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39D560059EA626EFC8E2FCB8C90@phx.gbl>

But, ... yuo wouldn't get as much exercise and might have to join a fitness 
club ...

Cool stuff tho'.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>

That one from eastwood is expensive... How about
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696

Marc



Duncan Sinclair wrote:
 > I think what you are referring to is a joggler.
 > Something like this one?
 > http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=1657&itemType=PRODUCT
 >
 > Thanks
 > Duncan
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
 > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
 > Michael Rowe
 > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:55 PM
 > To: Spridget Chat Group
 > Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
 >
 > Somewhere on one of the restoration sites was a description of a metal 
lap
 > joint in which one side is bent in a Z shape so that the resulting joint 
is
 > flat on one side.  That guy crimped them by hand in a modified vise, but
 > there is apparently a machine that rolls it.  Can anyone tell me the name 
of
 > that joint/machine?
 >
 > Michael Rowe
 > '74 Midget
 > Long Island, NY

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu May 15 13:11:23 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 12:11:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Group question, honest answer NOT required
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090805131735t601a0fe0qdf9fee6d8d0dac01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10805151211pa71ef50j9fa1475512dcc5a5@mail.gmail.com>

1980....

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May 15 14:26:04 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:26:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home><!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
	<482C186A.1090301@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop>

<<That one from eastwood is expensive... How about 
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696>>

er Marc??  That require an Air Compressor & is $5.00 MORE?!?!?

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu May 15 13:39:07 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:39:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
Message-ID: <051520081939.25020.482C915B000946C5000061BC2216557996C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Or you could hook Ed up to it.  That should be enough air to run it.  8^)

--David C.
"Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." -- Anonymous

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> <<That one from eastwood is expensive... How about 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696>>
> 
> er Marc??  That require an Air Compressor & is $5.00 MORE?!?!?
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From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May 15 13:47:24 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:47:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home><!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
	<482C186A.1090301@smarc.net> <00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <482C934C.2010003@smarc.net>

Sure - only 5 bucks more for a powered version? Why wouldn't you?

Marc



Ed's Shop wrote:
> <<That one from eastwood is expensive... How about 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=41696>>
>
> er Marc??  That require an Air Compressor & is $5.00 MORE?!?!?
> _______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu May 15 15:00:30 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home><!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com><482C186A.1090301@smarc.net>
	<00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop> <482C934C.2010003@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <010b01c8b6ce$b5fca210$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Why wouldn't you?>>

LOTS of folks do NOT have a compressor, Marc!!  Poor souls<G>.

Besides, you inferred CHEAPER?!?

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu May 15 14:43:39 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What cam???????????
Message-ID: <992447.66074.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My friend is starting to build a 1275cc motor. He asked me about cams. I know from past posts i read that it seems like the majority of people are running a 266 degree cam. Can you tell me if this is true or what degree is best for a street motor. What is the reason you went with the degree cam you selected.  
   
  Thank You,
   
  vigil
  SoCal 

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Thu May 15 15:11:49 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... What cam???????????
In-Reply-To: <992447.66074.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <992447.66074.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8af6a14ec5a1f0e4a128dfa.20080515141149.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Vigil,
     I have a 266 cam in my 1275 Bugeye, but just using a 266 profile will
not always get the same results.  Just like heart and lungs work
together, you have to match the cam to the head work.  Compression
ratio, size of valves, valve lift, head porting all work together. 
You should consult with David Anton at APT what the best profile is
to use for your engine.  He even machines his own cams now to spec. 
He also has a dyno for un-installed motors and a flow bench for the
head work he does.
     That said, I have an all out porting job on my head by David.  He
also specified to Gerard that built the short block to deck the block
to within 5 thousands of TDC so he could control the compression
ration by machining the combustion chambers in the head.  I am using
Rimflo valves and a bushed 1.5 rocker set for higher lift.  I am also
using the Maniflow Spridget intake manifold with a single HIF44 carb.
 All I can say is, "Wow!'  The car now exceeds the capabilities of
the tiny original 7 inch drums I have on the car.  It goes like
stink!  You should also keep in mind what exhaust you are using.  I
have a header and the Maniflow Spridget exhaust which is larger in
diameter than stock 1275 exhaust.  All large rotating masses were
balanced.  I probably could have used a more radical cam, but the car
idles slightly lumpy now.  In any case the 266 is a good choice for
the street, but if you rebuild the motor in all other areas
completely stock you might not see the potential of this cam.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
> My friend is starting to build a 1275cc motor. He asked me about cams. I
> know from past posts i read that it seems like the majority of people are
> running a 266 degree cam. Can you tell me if this is true or what degree
> is best for a street motor. What is the reason you went with the degree
> cam you selected.
>
>   Thank You,
>
>   vigil
>   SoCal
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 15 15:40:51 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 16:40:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... What cam???????????
In-Reply-To: <8af6a14ec5a1f0e4a128dfa.20080515141149.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <992447.66074.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<8af6a14ec5a1f0e4a128dfa.20080515141149.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805151440h3df9d049r6d97d3cb85b1eadb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Mike,

This set-up rocks!  I'm looking forward to seeing it all at LotO next month!


Oh... Per our telcon the other day, I'll bring a large shoe horn. We can
take turns using it...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM, <rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Vigil,
>     I have a 266 cam in my 1275 Bugeye, but just using a 266 profile will
> not always get the same results.  Just like heart and lungs work
> together, you have to match the cam to the head work.  Compression
> ratio, size of valves, valve lift, head porting all work together.
> You should consult with David Anton at APT what the best profile is
> to use for your engine.  He even machines his own cams now to spec.
> He also has a dyno for un-installed motors and a flow bench for the
> head work he does.
>     That said, I have an all out porting job on my head by David.  He
> also specified to Gerard that built the short block to deck the block
> to within 5 thousands of TDC so he could control the compression
> ration by machining the combustion chambers in the head.  I am using
> Rimflo valves and a bushed 1.5 rocker set for higher lift.  I am also
> using the Maniflow Spridget intake manifold with a single HIF44 carb.
>  All I can say is, "Wow!'  The car now exceeds the capabilities of
> the tiny original 7 inch drums I have on the car.  It goes like
> stink!  You should also keep in mind what exhaust you are using.  I
> have a header and the Maniflow Spridget exhaust which is larger in
> diameter than stock 1275 exhaust.  All large rotating masses were
> balanced.  I probably could have used a more radical cam, but the car
> idles slightly lumpy now.  In any case the 266 is a good choice for
> the street, but if you rebuild the motor in all other areas
> completely stock you might not see the potential of this cam.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Thu May 15 16:21:33 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:21:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... What cam???????????
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805151440h3df9d049r6d97d3cb85b1eadb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <992447.66074.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com><8af6a14ec5a1f0e4a128dfa.20080515141149.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<43840a7e0805151440h3df9d049r6d97d3cb85b1eadb@mail.gmail.com>
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Yeah Jim.  Half the people at car shows are more interested in how I get
in and out of it than the car itself.
Big Mike
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Jim Johnson
> Hey Mike,
>
> This set-up rocks!  I'm looking forward to seeing it all at LotO next
> month!
>
>
> Oh... Per our telcon the other day, I'll bring a large shoe horn. We can
> take turns using it...   ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM, <rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> Vigil,
>>     I have a 266 cam in my 1275 Bugeye, but just using a 266 profile
>> will
>> not always get the same results.  Just like heart and lungs work
>> together, you have to match the cam to the head work.  Compression
>> ratio, size of valves, valve lift, head porting all work together.
>> You should consult with David Anton at APT what the best profile is
>> to use for your engine.  He even machines his own cams now to spec.
>> He also has a dyno for un-installed motors and a flow bench for the
>> head work he does.
>>     That said, I have an all out porting job on my head by David.  He
>> also specified to Gerard that built the short block to deck the block
>> to within 5 thousands of TDC so he could control the compression
>> ration by machining the combustion chambers in the head.  I am using
>> Rimflo valves and a bushed 1.5 rocker set for higher lift.  I am also
>> using the Maniflow Spridget intake manifold with a single HIF44 carb.
>>  All I can say is, "Wow!'  The car now exceeds the capabilities of
>> the tiny original 7 inch drums I have on the car.  It goes like
>> stink!  You should also keep in mind what exhaust you are using.  I
>> have a header and the Maniflow Spridget exhaust which is larger in
>> diameter than stock 1275 exhaust.  All large rotating masses were
>> balanced.  I probably could have used a more radical cam, but the car
>> idles slightly lumpy now.  In any case the 266 is a good choice for
>> the street, but if you rebuild the motor in all other areas
>> completely stock you might not see the potential of this cam.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
>
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Thu May 15 21:43:58 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 23:43:58 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
Message-ID: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>

Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at the  
Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee? 
 
Howard Collins
'60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu May 15 21:44:52 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 20:44:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call/Vancouver BC
In-Reply-To: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
References: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1359257633.20080515204452@pacifier.com>

Hello Miniac7,

     and who is going to be at the Vancouver BC ABFM?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "Another batch of shells for me!" Tom clamored. 

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu May 15 22:07:03 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 00:07:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
References: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <482D0867.506@smarc.net>

I'm planning on driving up to Carlisle Sat morning...

Marc



Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at the  
> Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee? 
>  
> Howard Collins
> '60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri May 16 04:45:18 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 05:45:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: question on how do i dign up for spridget group?]
Message-ID: <26781131.190651210934718182.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi Group,
I forgot how to sign up to the spridget list.  Can anyone tell David how to join the group?
Thanks
George Marinos

>From: "david_bierman at juno.com" <david_bierman at juno.com>
>Date: 2008/05/16 Fri AM 03:13:57 CDT
>To: gmari2 at verizon.net
>Subject: question on how do i dign up for spridget group?

>hi George
>i tried to sign up for the spridget group but it bounced back i must have done some thing wrong. do you have a web address i can paste in ?
>
>Dave
>_____________________________________________________________
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George Marinos

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Fri May 16 04:53:18 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 05:53:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?=5BFwd=3A_ref=2E_to_phone_conversation_1967?=
 =?utf-8?b?IG1pZGdldCDvv710aHVyLiBuaWdodF0=?=
Message-ID: <5166812.191711210935198292.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net>

Greetings List,
Please read Davids email below.  He is looking for a late midget and also has some questions that I know you folks have answers to.  Any guidance for David would be appreciated.  Respond to him directly as he isn't yet on the list.
Thanks
George

>From: "david_bierman at juno.com" <david_bierman at juno.com>
>Date: 2008/05/15 Thu PM 11:57:10 CDT
>To: gmari2 at verizon.net
>Subject: ref. to phone conversation 1967 midget  thur. night

>Hi George
>
>here is my e mail address
>
>david_bierman at juno.com
>
>i am looking for a 67 mg midget with spokes that is structurally sound even if a blown engine is ok as i can use mine.
>
>i have owned this  1967 mg midget since i started driving in 74 and loved mg's since i read "the red car" book about a tc
>
>any way although mine is very well maintained and original for the mostpart saddly the body is worn out.
>
>although i have restored several full frame 1920's fords i am squemish about doing a unibody and finacially since mine needs floors, inner and outer rockers and lower rear quaters along with the repair of behind the seat bulk heads it would make more sense to look for a good body. 
>i pre fer the 67 having the largest engine with out polution control and roll up windows and folding top. mine is BR green. i now have (1)25,000 miles on mine with a new clutch after 70,000 8 yrs ago after 
>i stopped using it as a daily driver about 8 years ago.
>
>sooo if you hear of anything please let me know even a 67-69 as the exterior trim looks like mine with spokes
>
>also i guess if you can help me with a bit of info in regards to some of the changes on the 68 and 69 midgets ie 
>
>did they still have a croame trim strip on the hood in 69? 
> 
>when did the polution copressor appear on the engine? 
>
>also mine has allways had a cintrifical addvance on the distributor but the books show a vacume unit dan at coventry mentioned that that might vary according to were it was ment to be shipped to ? 
>
>will the 67 roof frame fit the 69?
>
>the 69 i am looking at doesn't have a compressor or mount for one on the thermostat housing perhaps a sprite engine in it?
>
>anyway i really thought i knew later 60's midgets untill i started looking and compareing the replacement car. LOL
>
>also you mentinoed Frank Clarici's phone and e mail  if you have it that might be helpful 
>
>thank you for your help
>
>908 322 9084
>Dave B.
>_____________________________________________________________
>Click to go wireless with your computer, ultra fast speed.
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George Marinos

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May 16 05:25:11 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 07:25:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <482D0867.506@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <008c01c8b747$810664a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Arriving late afternoon, today, sans Midget (too much rain & not enough
time to fit the hardtop, and I need more space for beer and parts).
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Marc
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:07 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call

I'm planning on driving up to Carlisle Sat morning...

Marc



Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at
the  
> Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee? 
>  
> Howard Collins
> '60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red
_______________________________________________

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Fri May 16 06:13:47 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 05:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MacGregors Web Site and Contact Information
In-Reply-To: <331782.97596.qm@web51605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <496275.30570.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

MacGregor's They have an add monthly in the back of Classic Motorsports.
  Bugeye Bonnet to Cowl Seals that fit, rubber door seals that stay on and fit.
   
  Martin MacGregor
  877-777-6381
  www.macgregorukcarparts.com
   
  Call up Martin and talk to him. You'll love the accent.

Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Jim,
What is the link for MacGregor's? I havn't been able to find it thru the usual search engines....
Thanks, Bob


Nice service from folks at MacGregor's BTW. Canada to Dayton including going through customs fasterthan it would have come from MOSS or VB. Plus it fits, it fits. 
> 
> 
> Jim Gruber
> Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite
> Cincinnati, OH

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri May 16 06:55:07 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Online Shop manual
In-Reply-To: <16711208.1210342323176.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <557314.22862.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  At one point, I knew of a site where someone had scanned a Spridget shop manual.  I can no longer find link, does anybody else kno of it?  I believe it was a Bentley manual, but am not certain.
  Thanks,
   - David

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May 16 11:07:16 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:07:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
Message-ID: <4176648.1210957636600.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It looks like typical Lousy Carlisle weather.  I was gonna go today but saw it was raining and thought better of it.  Why can't they move this Import date to give it a chance?

Mike C
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
>Sent: May 16, 2008 7:25 AM
>To: 'Marc' <smarc at smarc.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
>
>Arriving late afternoon, today, sans Midget (too much rain & not enough
>time to fit the hardtop, and I need more space for beer and parts).
>Bud Osbourne
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>Marc
>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:07 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
>
>I'm planning on driving up to Carlisle Sat morning...
>
>Marc
>
>
>
>Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
>> Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at
>the  
>> Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee? 
>>  
>> Howard Collins
>> '60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red


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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May 16 11:37:42 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:37:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
Message-ID: <e98d88090805161037i5688bffen4c461ddeac063e87@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so it's Friday here at work. All our work is done, but salaried help has
to stay to the bitter end, until EVERY truck that is leaving has all the
cabinets accounted for.
Needless to say, we get bored. The other day, our maintenance supervisor had
seen a thing on the news about making hydrogen, and how it is a hoax. Last
night, he had a friend at a machine shop make him 8 stainless steel plates,
about 3" x 5". There is a 1" notch cut in one corner of each plate, he
alternated the plates, so that the notch was in opposing corners in a stack.
Then he drilled two holes in the center of the plate stack, and on the
corners where the notches alternated. He used plastic (look like license
plate) bolts through the two center holes, with plastic washers to separate
the plates. Then, in each corner, he used brass screws and washers, to
electrify the plates. By alternating the notches, you have a positive plate,
then a negative plate, all down the stack. they are about an 1/8" apart.
He takes this rig, and puts it in a plastic bucket of water (tap water, NOT
distilled!!!), with a hose leading off of it, and the two wires from the
plate array, going to a 12 volt car battery.
With the lid off, you can see the water bubbling, much like the electrolysis
rigs we make to remove rust. After around 10 minutes of it going, he can't
smell anything coming out of the tube. Now, FYI, the maintenance shop shares
a wall with our customer service dept.
Out of curiosity, he puts a flame to the end of the hose. Imagine the
surprise, when the flame sucks up into the hose, IMMEDIATELY followed by the
lid blowing off the 5 gallon bucket. The girls in cust serv thought a tire
had exploded.
Hoax my ass, this thing WORKS!!! Now to figure out how to regulate and
utilize it in a vehicle. It allegedly increases fuel economy.
I wonder if the hose was mounted close to the carb/throttle body mouth, if
the vacuum draw would pull enough into the car to work...

Brad (still bored, but much more amused than before the explosion)
-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri May 16 13:21:00 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (stevenm at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:21:00 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
Message-ID: <e63da26e7e60.482dde9c@optonline.net>

Brad,
After reading your of your "hydrogen trick" I took a spin on google and came up with this...
http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm
It looks like someone has already cooked up a way to integrate the idea into vehicles, and packaged the directions for sale online.  I can't help but wonder if there are caveats they are not talking about, but it looks pretty neat.

Steve

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri May 16 14:19:00 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:19:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
References: <e98d88090805161037i5688bffen4c461ddeac063e87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8b792$142ada00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Of course the gas exploded, it was hydrogen and oxygen.  Problem was, and 
is, you will put more energy into separating the water into hydrogen and 
oxygen than you will get burning it.  Its the old thermodynamic law of "no 
free lunch". Rip-offs like this make people who paid attention in chemistry 
class laugh and laugh.  Everybody knows that this won't work unless you also 
put one of those little turbolator fans in your intake and a bis-a$$ magnet 
on your fuel line.   Then, maybe.........

Glen Byrns

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May 16 15:05:49 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:05:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine stand for rebuilding..
Message-ID: <6D9AF1C9-A199-4150-B73D-4BC80657E34E@comcast.net>

Ok oh wise ones..

Where would you recommend that I bolt the engine stand, cheap Chinese  
from Harbor F, to a 948?

Thanks,

Lester

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 16 15:06:21 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:06:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
References: <e98d88090805161037i5688bffen4c461ddeac063e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<000601c8b792$142ada00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <009201c8b798$b1a14f70$6401a8c0@Larry>

The only free way to get better mileage and acceleration is to jack up the 
back end so you are always driving downhill.

None of that other stuff works.

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement


Of course the gas exploded, it was hydrogen and oxygen.  Problem was, and
is, you will put more energy into separating the water into hydrogen and
oxygen than you will get burning it.  Its the old thermodynamic law of "no
free lunch". Rip-offs like this make people who paid attention in chemistry
class laugh and laugh.  Everybody knows that this won't work unless you also
put one of those little turbolator fans in your intake and a bis-a$$ magnet
on your fuel line.   Then, maybe.........

Glen Byrns
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May 16 15:19:30 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:19:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
In-Reply-To: <000601c8b792$142ada00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <e98d88090805161037i5688bffen4c461ddeac063e87@mail.gmail.com>
	<000601c8b792$142ada00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <CC00E2B2-9CB0-4479-A83F-4E1E9794C409@comcast.net>

We used to add lye IIRC to accelerate the process and only captured  
the gas coming off of one electrode, damn if I remember which one  
tho', was it pos being hydrogen?  Or the other way around?

Lester
Who stopped paying attention in PChem


On May 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Glen Byrns wrote:

> Of course the gas exploded, it was hydrogen and oxygen.  Problem  
> was, and
> is, you will put more energy into separating the water into hydrogen  
> and
> oxygen than you will get burning it.  Its the old thermodynamic law  
> of "no
> free lunch". Rip-offs like this make people who paid attention in  
> chemistry
> class laugh and laugh.  Everybody knows that this won't work unless  
> you also
> put one of those little turbolator fans in your intake and a bis-a$$  
> magnet
> on your fuel line.   Then, maybe.........
>
> Glen Byrns

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Fri May 16 16:00:34 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:00:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine stand for rebuilding..
In-Reply-To: <6D9AF1C9-A199-4150-B73D-4BC80657E34E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4.1.20080516174133.00b78df8@mail.bellsouth.net>

I had a bad experience (a really bad experience!) lifting the 1275 out of
my ' 67 by the recommended rocker arm studs. Yes, the special hardened ARP
stud broke and the engine dropped tailshaft between the chassis rails and
oil pan onto the panel where the hood latch latches. No damage was done
except to the stud, the panel, and my garage floor (big chip).

So, in my inimitable fashion, I over engineered a solution. I use a piece
of angle iron that attaches to the manifold studs on one side and
fabricated an "H" shaped bracket from 1" square tubing that attaches to the
rear alternator bosses near the distributor.  A welded tab on each bracket
is located across from each other so that the engine is balanced and can be
tilted easily to get around the battery shelf and the front cross member. (
I usually pull the transmission with the engine and have partially removed
part of the heater plenum. Did I mention this is a vintage race car and I
don't need the heater?) The "H" bracket has holes that match up to my cheap
engine stand, so I can bolt it up right from the engine lift. This means
that the engine is perpendicular to the rotating piece on the stand. It
allows me to work on the top of the engine and then rotate it to work on
the bottom end very easily. Attaching it by the side of the block rather
than by the flywheel end, allows me to work on the clutch, flywheel, etc.
The only problem I have had is the rear engine plate can interfere with the
rotation in one direction. 

Yeah, it took some trouble to design the whole rig and a couple tries at
dimensions and angles, but it works real well. The brackets that come with
most engine stands are designed to join the rotating plate to the bolt
holes where the transmission attaches to the engine plate. That works, too.





At 04:05 PM 5/16/2008 -0500, Lester wrote:
>Ok oh wise ones..
>
>Where would you recommend that I bolt the engine stand, cheap Chinese  
>from Harbor F, to a 948?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lester
>
>
>-- 
>No virus found in this incoming message.
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>7:42 AM

Bob Spruck
MGMaven
Sharpsburg, GA
67 Midget Vintage Racer
72 Midget Street and Show
6 parts/project cars

From bkitterer at mac.com  Fri May 16 18:38:46 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:38:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine stand for rebuilding..
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20080516174133.00b78df8@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <4.1.20080516174133.00b78df8@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <C03AEEA5-1B34-4A12-A664-D02759EC3A3E@mac.com>

I have used the factory rocker arm cover studs for years to pull and  
reinstall the engine/transmission/drive shaft and have never had a  
problem.  Must of been those fancy studs that caused the problem :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 16, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Bob Spruck wrote:

> I had a bad experience (a really bad experience!) lifting the 1275  
> out of
> my ' 67 by the recommended rocker arm studs. Yes, the special  
> hardened ARP
> stud broke and the engine dropped tailshaft between the chassis  
> rails and
> oil pan onto the panel where the hood latch latches. No damage was  
> done
> except to the stud, the panel, and my garage floor (big chip).
>
> So, in my inimitable fashion, I over engineered a solution. I use a  
> piece
> of angle iron that attaches to the manifold studs on one side and
> fabricated an "H" shaped bracket from 1" square tubing that  
> attaches to the
> rear alternator bosses near the distributor.  A welded tab on each  
> bracket
> is located across from each other so that the engine is balanced  
> and can be
> tilted easily to get around the battery shelf and the front cross  
> member. (
> I usually pull the transmission with the engine and have partially  
> removed
> part of the heater plenum. Did I mention this is a vintage race car  
> and I
> don't need the heater?) The "H" bracket has holes that match up to  
> my cheap
> engine stand, so I can bolt it up right from the engine lift. This  
> means
> that the engine is perpendicular to the rotating piece on the  
> stand. It
> allows me to work on the top of the engine and then rotate it to  
> work on
> the bottom end very easily. Attaching it by the side of the block  
> rather
> than by the flywheel end, allows me to work on the clutch,  
> flywheel, etc.
> The only problem I have had is the rear engine plate can interfere  
> with the
> rotation in one direction.
>
> Yeah, it took some trouble to design the whole rig and a couple  
> tries at
> dimensions and angles, but it works real well. The brackets that  
> come with
> most engine stands are designed to join the rotating plate to the bolt
> holes where the transmission attaches to the engine plate. That  
> works, too.
>
>
>
>
>
> At 04:05 PM 5/16/2008 -0500, Lester wrote:
>> Ok oh wise ones..
>>
>> Where would you recommend that I bolt the engine stand, cheap Chinese
>> from Harbor F, to a 948?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 16 19:49:41 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:49:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: question on how do i dign up for spridget
 group?]
References: <26781131.190651210934718182.JavaMail.root@vms076.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <008501c8b7c0$462ff110$6801a8c0@shop>

Sorry, all.

George, just look at the bottom of EVERY List post.  Info right there<G>!!

Have you rec'd my private mailS ??

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 16 19:50:31 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:50:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine stand for rebuilding..
References: <4.1.20080516174133.00b78df8@mail.bellsouth.net>
	<C03AEEA5-1B34-4A12-A664-D02759EC3A3E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <008d01c8b7c0$63f16f30$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I have used the factory rocker arm cover studs for years to pull and  
reinstall the engine/transmission/drive shaft and have never had a  
problem.>>

Ditto, Bob.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri May 16 18:53:50 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen supplement
In-Reply-To: <e63da26e7e60.482dde9c@optonline.net>
References: <e63da26e7e60.482dde9c@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <482E2C9E.8080600@wi.net>

Frank is at Carlisle but I bet he has an NOS Lucas hydrogen switch with 
vapor level read-out.
Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI
Saturday is Elkhart Lake!!

stevenm at optonline.net wrote:
> Brad,
> After reading your of your "hydrogen trick" I took a spin on google and came up with this...
> http://www.water4gas.com/2books.htm
> It looks like someone has already cooked up a way to integrate the idea into vehicles, and packaged the directions for sale online.  I can't help but wonder if there are caveats they are not talking about, but it looks pretty neat.
>
> Steve

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:15:12 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:15:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
References: <cd4.2d016fc9.355e5cfe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161815q364ee3b1o22474afa7cca4572@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going but driving my US car. We are heading out Sat morning.
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner



On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:43 PM, <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at the
> Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee?
>
> Howard Collins
> '60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red
>
>
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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Fri May 16 19:40:00 2008
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:40:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
Message-ID: <20080517013756.F21ED18764B@autox.team.net>

I'm here with my truck and an empty trailer looking for a bargain.  Yes, it's wet, but I don't care.  It's Carlisle, after all.

We'll be there tomorrow, and if no better prospects show up, the trailer will be going home empty.

Cal if you want to say hello. 203-578-0958.

Jim 
1957 MGA #311

-----Original Message-----

From:  Miniac7 at aol.com
Subj:  [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
Date:  Thu May 15, 2008 11:42 pm
Size:  563 bytes
To:  midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, spridgets at autox.team.net,        bugeye at yahoogroups.com

Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at the  
Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee? 
 
Howard Collins
'60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red



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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:47:02 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:47:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161847h5dcc35b8nb192272cae7b20a7@mail.gmail.com>

Yea they didn't make more than a handful because nobody liked them but they
are so damn cute : ) Check out Terry Horler's book he has 30 pics of a pink
one he calls "Pinky". http://www.autobooksonline.net/si/30291.html

Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner



On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:55 AM, <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Unrestored?  Deep Pink?  I wasn't aware they came in Deep Pink in '62.  Oh
> well, live and learn.  8^)
>
> --David C.
> "Those who matter don't judge me ... those who judge me don't matter." --
> Anonymous
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> > Spridgeteers,
> > I received a message from Anita the gal in Washington State who also owns
> a
> > 62 deep pink Sprite and her Sprite is absolutely stunning. It is a low
> > mileage pristine Sprite which she won "Best Original Unrestored Car in
> Show"
> > last year. She said she is having difficulty matching her paint, she
> wanted
> > to touch up a chip or two but the mix is wrong. I told her I would try
> and
> > get some help. The only thing I can figure out is her paint is slightly
> > faded so it wouldn't match. I asked her if a digitizer was used on her
> paint
> > to get the color. I should know in a day or two of that answer. Is there
> any
> > other way to match the color?
> >
> > I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
> > BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
> > Linda
> >
> > 62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:50:49 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:50:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <00b001c8b5bd$5ec20880$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<00b001c8b5bd$5ec20880$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161850g46901e9bj8edc3ca20db43ba@mail.gmail.com>

Actually according to Terry Horler they only made a small handful in
62 somewhere under 50 and most of them were re[painted another color years
later. As soon as I get my certificate I should know more.
Lin

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:23 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
wrote:

> > Unrestored?  Deep Pink?  I wasn't aware they came in Deep Pink in '62.
>  Oh
> > well, live and learn.  8^)
>
> Do you have any idea how long it took to sell a Deep Pink Sprite??? There
> are probably 1963 Deep Pink Sprites out there, since the title generally
> reflects the year of the sale rather than the year of manufacture.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:52:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:52:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <2670706.1210770367839.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <2670706.1210770367839.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161852i5b7f8f55r10fb78a00b90cd87@mail.gmail.com>

I'll let her know as she only need a small jar to do touchup. When I get my
color I'll mail it out befor I apply to be sure it is just like hers : )
Lin

62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Hi Linda,
>
> Your friend needs to find a body/paint shop that has been around a while
> with a painter that has been painting for a while.  A good painter will mix
> white or whatever color and try it until they match the color as close as
> they can.
>
> mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> >Sent: May 13, 2008 9:27 PM
> >To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
> >
> >Spridgeteers,
> >I received a message from Anita the gal in Washington State who also owns
> a
> >62 deep pink Sprite and her Sprite is absolutely stunning. It is a low
> >mileage pristine Sprite which she won "Best Original Unrestored Car in
> Show"
> >last year. She said she is having difficulty matching her paint, she
> wanted
> >to touch up a chip or two but the mix is wrong. I told her I would try and
> >get some help. The only thing I can figure out is her paint is slightly
> >faded so it wouldn't match. I asked her if a digitizer was used on her
> paint
> >to get the color. I should know in a day or two of that answer. Is there
> any
> >other way to match the color?
> >
> >I added her Sprite to my website it is the last picture on page 2. Enjoy.
> >BTW no password needed. No offence Gilroy ; )
> >Linda
> >
> >62 California Sprite (Pinky)
> >www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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>
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 19:58:01 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:58:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <014401c8b5f0$dc4c1010$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131929w2fc81f5fr791b06bbf291a4c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<014401c8b5f0$dc4c1010$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161858q2d2aaacavfdfc0d926469fb@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ed,
I am going to mail out some of the paint to Anita when I get it so Anita
chan check it against hers.
Lin

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<If the color matches I'll see if they can ship me some too.>>
>
> It STILL will NOT match YOUR car, Linda<G>!!
>
> You have to have YOUR car scanned.  And decent body shop "can" do it these
> days.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri May 16 20:04:34 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 22:04:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
In-Reply-To: <20080517013756.F21ED18764B@autox.team.net>
References: <20080517013756.F21ED18764B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430805161904v6c1cbf66k321b96c267ec9397@mail.gmail.com>

See you all there : )
Linda



On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net> wrote:

> I'm here with my truck and an empty trailer looking for a bargain.  Yes,
> it's wet, but I don't care.  It's Carlisle, after all.
>
> We'll be there tomorrow, and if no better prospects show up, the trailer
> will be going home empty.
>
> Cal if you want to say hello. 203-578-0958.
>
> Jim
> 1957 MGA #311
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  Miniac7 at aol.com
> Subj:  [Spridgets] Carlisle / Jubilee Roll Call
> Date:  Thu May 15, 2008 11:42 pm
> Size:  563 bytes
> To:  midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, spridgets at autox.team.net,
> bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>
> Who from these lists will we be seeing this coming weekend either at the
> Carlisle Import Show and/or at the Sprite Jubilee?
>
> Howard Collins
> '60 AH Bugeye OEW w/Red
>
>
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 16 21:27:12 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:27:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com><441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com><205cef430805131929w2fc81f5fr791b06bbf291a4c6@mail.gmail.com><014401c8b5f0$dc4c1010$6801a8c0@shop>
	<205cef430805161858q2d2aaacavfdfc0d926469fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001901c8b7cd$e6a6d110$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I am going to mail out some of the paint to Anita when I get it >>

You don't have to do that since it would seem you HAVE had your car scanned, Linda.

Just email her the "formulation" info.  Save $0.42<G>.

$1.00 says they don't match<VBG>!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 16 21:42:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:42:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
References: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<205cef430805161847h5dcc35b8nb192272cae7b20a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007e01c8b7d0$0b35b990$6801a8c0@shop>

Linda, I had forgotten...

<<Check out Terry Horler's book he has 30 pics of a pink
one he calls "Pinky". 
http://www.autobooksonline.net/si/30291.html>>

how PINK the sky is on the cover!!!        LOL

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May 16 22:23:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:23:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inner valve springs??
Message-ID: <98156F76-DC97-4859-8ED4-DD82DF06DCD5@comcast.net>

Ok, so when I had the head rebuilt I told the nice shop to just ignore  
those secondary springs as this was not going to be a race engine.  I  
just noticed in one of my manuals that those may be stock.  This is  
for the 948 but the head is a 1098 that's been worked on..  so,  do I  
need to buy some inner springs and install?

Thanks all,

Lester

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri May 16 22:56:05 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 00:56:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Fusion ad
Message-ID: <008801c8b7da$50eb98b0$e051f544@1705n3>

has anyone seen this ad?  The tagline sounds a bit familar...

http://www.stangbangers.com/08_FordFusion_Ad.jpg

Steve

From david_bierman at juno.com  Sat May 17 01:11:02 2008
From: david_bierman at juno.com (david_bierman at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:11:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] wanted 1967 mg midget
Message-ID: <20080517.031102.18084.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

i am looking for a 1967 mg midged spoked wheeled car to replace my worn out
body on the one i used as a daily driver for 30 years (till 8 years ago) must
be good origial with solid body or solid restoration. through 71 acceptable
roll up windows, folding top ect.
Dave Bierman
david_bierman at juno.com
_____________________________________________________________
Click here for low prices on a huge selection of popcorn poppers!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiesgNO0gVkbCwgOtrDFfxa46CAn
bxK5NMAbO84T0RaI0DKUU/?count=1234567890

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 17 04:56:55 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 06:56:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <001901c8b7cd$e6a6d110$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <205cef430805131827t5645aa17rd13e4b872264e03c@mail.gmail.com>
	<441250190805131921sb7a1505kd3312d72d581a2f5@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430805131929w2fc81f5fr791b06bbf291a4c6@mail.gmail.com>
	<014401c8b5f0$dc4c1010$6801a8c0@shop>
	<205cef430805161858q2d2aaacavfdfc0d926469fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<001901c8b7cd$e6a6d110$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <205cef430805170356w29e30e59s95dc12217984cfed@mail.gmail.com>

OK but it is always nice to have a drop or two of the real deal (paint)
because she had her's digitized and it didn't match. I would bet there is a
little more to the digitizer in the area of calibration, I would guess they
are not all the same. You just never know who is working the counter at all
the shops.
Lin

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<I am going to mail out some of the paint to Anita when I get it >>
>
> You don't have to do that since it would seem you HAVE had your car
> scanned, Linda.
>
> Just email her the "formulation" info.  Save $0.42<G>.
>
> $1.00 says they don't match<VBG>!!
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat May 17 05:02:55 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:02:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another deep pink Sprite
In-Reply-To: <007e01c8b7d0$0b35b990$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <051420081155.27627.482AD32A000664E500006BEB2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<205cef430805161847h5dcc35b8nb192272cae7b20a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<007e01c8b7d0$0b35b990$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <205cef430805170402q57b67231r90a291608ac13685@mail.gmail.com>

Ed,
Looking at the past Spridget events of Rick Mosses I have not seen any Pink
Sprites. If I didn't have so much estate work (just like another job) I
would have planned on getting my Sprite to the event but my dear fathers
passing has filled my garage and the next step is putting my car in the
driveway for more of his stuff to come. (Looking for a rental garage in NJ
for Pinky soon). But we are going to the event in our daily driver and next
year their will be at least 1 pink Sprite at the show, it would be nice to
have Dick's and Anita's 62 pink Sprites there too.

Lin

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> Linda, I had forgotten...
>
> <<Check out Terry Horler's book he has 30 pics of a pink
> one he calls "Pinky".
> http://www.autobooksonline.net/si/30291.html>>
>
> how PINK the sky is on the cover!!!        LOL
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat May 17 07:15:11 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:15:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
Message-ID: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

OK guys--What i s your opinion of this new LBC?  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7381078.stm

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat May 17 07:29:25 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 09:29:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
In-Reply-To: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EC53934D-7A5A-4A4C-B26A-7F8CC35EA770@phillymgclub.com>

Holy Crap, Batman, Someone squashed the Batmobile!!


On May 17, 2008, at 9:15 AM, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:

> OK guys--What i s your opinion of this new LBC?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7381078.stm
>
> --David C.
> 'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the  
> rain.'
> _______________________________________________
>

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.



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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 17 08:15:01 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 08:15:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Fusion ad
In-Reply-To: <008801c8b7da$50eb98b0$e051f544@1705n3>
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Message-ID: <5f00d9910805170715m2662d4c4i1469077a6b10519e@mail.gmail.com>

No, the MG was "Safety Fast" and the Ford version is "Safety.  Fast."

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat May 17 08:49:27 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 10:49:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Fusion ad
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805170715m2662d4c4i1469077a6b10519e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <008801c8b7da$50eb98b0$e051f544@1705n3>
	<5f00d9910805170715m2662d4c4i1469077a6b10519e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <640591E1-8D6B-49F1-B599-CE986335D6C6@phillymgclub.com>

They still stole it!!!!


On May 17, 2008, at 10:15 AM, derf wrote:

> No, the MG was "Safety Fast" and the Ford version is "Safety.  Fast."
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat May 17 14:55:20 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:55:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Attention BRAD
Message-ID: <001d01c8b860$5228dcc0$01fea8c0@C600>

Brad - Would you please e-mail me off list?  I have a question for you.

Thanks,
Kate

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat May 17 16:25:19 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:25:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
In-Reply-To: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10805171525s6d30e984o1387cc8ee8f3120f@mail.gmail.com>

Good 'glass' work.  "Shifter" paddles even.  Wonder what the polished,
vertically mounted [on left] cylinders are.  Sound is good; any idea on
engine?

AND...one hell of an autocross car; x-low CG.

Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat May 17 16:26:40 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 15:26:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
In-Reply-To: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
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P.S.  Plus, I like the '59 Caddy tail lights!
Herb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 17 17:27:12 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:27:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Demolition
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805171627s384520cfp7911d1247c25b4af@mail.gmail.com>

I am presently contemplating the best location under the midget for 1/2 lb
of C-4
to have maximum effect.

Today I finally got it all back together after having the engine out to fix
a bad oil leak.
I don't have room in my garage for this work so I did the job 35 miles away
at my
brother-in-law's shop. It literally took months because of having to find
times when
Danny was home and I could come work on it. That plus my back is now so bad
that I couldn't finish underneath of the car. One day last week I tried to
reconnect the
drive shaft, bolt up the clutch slave and the bolts in the rear transmission
bracket.
When I scooted out from under the car on the creeper it took me 1/2 hour to
get
up off the creeper and the pain was incredible.

Anyway, yesterday I towed it home and today I filled all the fluids and
started it up.
I still have to bleed the clutch again as I had no clutch pedal. Okay - no
big deal
there.  I ran it for a little in neutral to check timing..etc (I also
installed a Pertronics
Ignitor) .

Okay...  fuel dripping from the bottom of my single HIF44 - float problem
probably
and I can deal with that.  Then I looked under the car.

Oil dripping from both the front and rear of the engine. Well...  dripping
isn't a
really accurate term...  "pouring" would be closer....

I started it rolling downhill in first gear and drove it into the garage
where it
now sits. I don't even want to look at the #$(&^!@#$  for a few days.

I need to go get good and drunk and blow the damned thing to smithereens!!

Jim - 68 "Sonofabitch Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
I'll be there but probably not in a Spridget!

From bpazur at excel.net  Sat May 17 20:20:34 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:20:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
Message-ID: <000a01c8b88d$d733b9d0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

Help - the Wisco driving season is finally here and my Bugeye is 'missing' in
action.

I've got a terrible miss at medium throttle and low speed under load. When I
put it into second it just stutters. At higher speeds it still doesn't wind
out. This all started last Autumn. When I rev it in the garage I can hear the
hint of a miss. After test drives, sometimes one or more plugs are sooty,
often times all are clean. It idles well.

I didn't make any changes before this happened. Details: stock 1275, twin HS2s
w/ AAC needles and blue springs, Facet fuel pump with Holley regulator,
Mallory dual point dizzy and coil, new wires, NGK 6ES plugs.

I get a good steady spark at all cylinders per timing light. Timing is good;
advance is good. I checked the carbs many times, also switched and switched
out suction discs and chambers. I checked the jets, moved the flats in and
out. Tried different levels of dashpot oil (10W). I checked the floats.

What am I 'missing' here?  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Hurry
- the Wisco driving season isn't that long!

Thanks.

Bud

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat May 17 20:06:09 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 02:06:09 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... What cam???????????
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV70E89CDFEE5F4DEF5DEFFD4CA0@phx.gbl>

Vizard's "Tuning BL's Series A Engine" has two chapters on cams and the importance
of building the motor to match.

CapBob

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 17 20:38:54 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 19:38:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8b88d$d733b9d0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <693466.45040.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bud,
I'd guess intake leak somewhere. Tighten stuff,
including the air rail plugs you may have in your 1275
cylinder head. I'm fighting the same thing today on
the street Bugeye, car ran similar to how you
describe. I just messed with the intake system, so
that's the first stop. Old gas can't be doing much for
me either, although it was half the price of the 5
gallons I picked up for it a few minutes ago. I'm
checking the valves in a minute, too. 

--- Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net> wrote:

> Help - the Wisco driving season is finally here and
> my Bugeye is 'missing' in
> action.
> 
> I've got a terrible miss at medium throttle and low
> speed under load. When I
> put it into second it just stutters. At higher
> speeds it still doesn't wind
> out. This all started last Autumn. When I rev it in
> the garage I can hear the
> hint of a miss. After test drives, sometimes one or
> more plugs are sooty,
> often times all are clean. It idles well.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat May 17 20:59:59 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 21:59:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget King Pins
Message-ID: <32B29CDDF35144A082795C2FCEAD6B82@Dell9200>

A week or two ago someone was talking about the nut on the top of the 
kingpin causing the upper trunion to lock the swivel.  I took my front end 
apart today to replace the lower A arm rubber bushings and have the A arm on 
my bench.  I am sure I have replacement kingpins and have run into the same 
issue.  They way they are made there is no way to shim up the upper trunion 
so that it won't lock down the upper trunion swivel.  It looks like the 
threaded part of the king pin is threaded down too far so that no amount of 
shims could possibly fix it.  It was supplied with a nyloc so I am assuming 
that the procedure would be to just crank it down snug.  I think I will 
drill the top of the kingpin and use a castle nut set just so there is not 
up/down play and put a cotter pin in it or maybe use a nut and a lock nut. 
The latter may be a better idea as it could be adjusted as the thrust washer 
wears.  Am I missing something?

The PO of my car had put the lower fulcrum pins in backwards which allowed 
them to move around.  I drove the car 400 miles last weekend with them that 
way and didn't notice until I got home.  Lucky I didn't have a bigger 
problem but the car ran great at 70!  Also glad I had a spare set of fulcrum 
pins as the old metal sleeve had seized solid to the pins.  I am about to 
put it back together and will put some anti seize on the pins.

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 17 21:28:15 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 20:28:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
In-Reply-To: <000a01c8b88d$d733b9d0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
References: <000a01c8b88d$d733b9d0$c8e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <000001c8b897$36883dd0$9403f204@spider>

Fuel or spark. 
I suspect something with the spark. If you're desperate change out the
plugs, points, rotor and cap. I suspect the plug wires (especially if it is
the same plugs that soot up.) Change out the condenser. I've had two in the
last 50 years that were faulty when new. They'd vibrate at certain rpm's
causing the engine to cut out. The spark wires could be shorting out or
there might be a crack in the distributor cap. Look for sparking corona in
the engine bay in a dark garage at night.  ...bill
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Bud Pazur
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 7:21 PM
To: Team Thicko; Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)

Help - the Wisco driving season is finally here and my Bugeye is 'missing'
in
action.
 . . .

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Sat May 17 21:44:00 2008
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 23:44:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
Message-ID: <20080518034110.E9BC918764A@autox.team.net>

Check compression?

Checkvalve clearances and condition of valve train?

I had experienced similar symptoms with an MGB.  It was a clogged fuel filter starving the carbs, but it sounds like you already checked those parts.

Jim 
1957 MGA #311

-----Original Message-----

From:  "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>
Subj:  [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
Date:  Sat May 17, 2008 10:31 pm
Size:  1K
To:  "Team Thicko" <team-thicko at autox.team.net>,        "Spridgets"<spridgets at autox.team.net>

Help - the Wisco driving season is finally here and my Bugeye is 'missing' in
action.

I've got a terrible miss at medium throttle and low speed under load. When I
put it into second it just stutters. At higher speeds it still doesn't wind
out. This all started last Autumn. When I rev it in the garage I can hear the
hint of a miss. After test drives, sometimes one or more plugs are sooty,
often times all are clean. It idles well.

I didn't make any changes before this happened. Details: stock 1275, twin HS2s
w/ AAC needles and blue springs, Facet fuel pump with Holley regulator,
Mallory dual point dizzy and coil, new wires, NGK 6ES plugs.

I get a good steady spark at all cylinders per timing light. Timing is good;
advance is good. I checked the carbs many times, also switched and switched
out suction discs and chambers. I checked the jets, moved the flats in and
out. Tried different levels of dashpot oil (10W). I checked the floats.

What am I 'missing' here?  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Hurry
- the Wisco driving season isn't that long!

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat May 17 21:50:19 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 22:50:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
In-Reply-To: <010b01c8b6ce$b5fca210$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
	<482C186A.1090301@smarc.net> <00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop>
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Message-ID: <2385DC0E08AB4DD1BC178488D8029B66@Home>

I do have a small compressor that I used for shooting plastic nails for 
boats.  I was thinking of asking one of the more enthusiastic members of 
this list to come and jump up and down on it to increase its output.  My 
experience here is that I am more likely to find someone good at jumping up 
and down than I am to find someone good at huffing and puffing.

Michael Rowe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] metal joint


> <<Why wouldn't you?>>
>
> LOTS of folks do NOT have a compressor, Marc!!  Poor souls<G>.
>
> Besides, you inferred CHEAPER?!?
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Sat May 17 21:58:32 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 22:58:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget King Pins
In-Reply-To: <32B29CDDF35144A082795C2FCEAD6B82@Dell9200>
References: <32B29CDDF35144A082795C2FCEAD6B82@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAIDS65aiBs5AhovXGSpxqjYBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

Mark,

The upper trunion should sit on a shoulder at the top of the kingpin.
Adjusting the locknut will have no effect on the thrust washer. The shims
sit on this shoulder to provide the correct clearance. Adding shims gives it
more clearance.

For the PO to put the upper fulcrum in backwards he must have omitted the
pinch bolt on the shock arm as it will not go in unless the slot in the pin
lines up correctly. Assuming og course he did not beat the crap out of it to
make it go in.

Thanks
Duncan


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Mark
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 22:00
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget King Pins

A week or two ago someone was talking about the nut on the top of the 
kingpin causing the upper trunion to lock the swivel.  I took my front end 
apart today to replace the lower A arm rubber bushings and have the A arm on

my bench.  I am sure I have replacement kingpins and have run into the same 
issue.  They way they are made there is no way to shim up the upper trunion 
so that it won't lock down the upper trunion swivel.  It looks like the 
threaded part of the king pin is threaded down too far so that no amount of 
shims could possibly fix it.  It was supplied with a nyloc so I am assuming 
that the procedure would be to just crank it down snug.  I think I will 
drill the top of the kingpin and use a castle nut set just so there is not 
up/down play and put a cotter pin in it or maybe use a nut and a lock nut. 
The latter may be a better idea as it could be adjusted as the thrust washer

wears.  Am I missing something?

The PO of my car had put the lower fulcrum pins in backwards which allowed 
them to move around.  I drove the car 400 miles last weekend with them that 
way and didn't notice until I got home.  Lucky I didn't have a bigger 
problem but the car ran great at 70!  Also glad I had a spare set of fulcrum

pins as the old metal sleeve had seized solid to the pins.  I am about to 
put it back together and will put some anti seize on the pins.

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 00:41:52 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 23:41:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
In-Reply-To: <693466.45040.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <958413.53633.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Bud
> I'm fighting the same thing today on
> the street Bugeye, car ran similar to how you
> describe. 

Well, it was too much air/not enough fuel, but random.
  No leaks, compression checked fine, valves were spot
on. Plugs looked great on rear 2, crappy on front 2.
But it's a Weber - WTF? I found the damn screw that
holds one of the venturis on the brand new,
run-today-for-the-first-time Weber backed out
completely (lock tabs are useless) and the venturi was
spinning like dial-a-mixture. It is somewhere between
the garage and the end of the block. That exact thing
happened to me at Road America 2 years ago and the
screw was laying on the shock absorber - it had been
there for 2 laps. On THAT car I reinstalled with
safety wire. On this carb, it was brand new so I
didn't touch it. The quality on the new Weber appears
to be a big notch down from the pre-strike days, like
the one I regret selling last year....

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 18 09:22:35 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 08:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
In-Reply-To: <958413.53633.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <218966.15855.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For those of you who have seen my son Bobby do a 1000
piece jigsaw in an hour or 2...he walked down the
street this morning for me and found the screw in the
grass in about 2 minutes. Amazing.

> --- Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Bud
> > I'm fighting the same thing today on
> > the street Bugeye, car ran similar to how you
> > describe. 
> 
> Well, it was too much air/not enough fuel, but
> random.
>   No leaks, compression checked fine, valves were
> spot
> on. Plugs looked great on rear 2, crappy on front 2.
> But it's a Weber - WTF? I found the damn screw that
> holds one of the venturis on the brand new,
> run-today-for-the-first-time Weber backed out
> completely (lock tabs are useless) and the venturi
> was
> spinning like dial-a-mixture. It is somewhere
> between
> the garage and the end of the block. 

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun May 18 10:17:08 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:17:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss - Vacuum Leaks
Message-ID: <001201c8b902$9f51f200$07e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

'Hopper mentioned the possibility of vacuum leaks. I seem to remember a post
about a method to check for vacuum leaks. Does anyone know of that method?
Thanks.

Bud

From smarc at smarc.net  Sun May 18 10:47:00 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:47:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss - Vacuum Leaks
In-Reply-To: <001201c8b902$9f51f200$07e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
References: <001201c8b902$9f51f200$07e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <48305D84.2090405@smarc.net>

spray around the area with carb cleaner. You'll know when you hit it.

Marc



Bud Pazur wrote:
> 'Hopper mentioned the possibility of vacuum leaks. I seem to remember a post
> about a method to check for vacuum leaks. Does anyone know of that method?
> Thanks.
>
> Bud
> __________________

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun May 18 11:03:00 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:03:00 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3F4A3BFD27179648C23C0C8CA0@phx.gbl>

We should all have a kid like this around! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun May 18 11:04:32 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:04:32 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss (LBC)
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV9FB058E62DB5753F1A166C8CA0@phx.gbl>

Oh, yeah

the heald of those little bolts that hold in the aux vent have tiny holes for safety wire.
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun May 18 12:09:31 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 11:09:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] convertible tops
Message-ID: <0651A766-F90D-44C1-90A9-49AA58DA5DD2@gerardsgarage.com>

Can anybody tell me if a top made for a MKII Sprite will fit a  
Bugeye. If not what is the difference? I have a brand new, never  
installed canvas top that was ordered for a MKII and I'm wondering if  
it will fit the Bugeye since no snaps have been installed yet.

Thanks

Gerard

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May 18 13:54:04 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:54:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual M/C question...
Message-ID: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>

My beast has the dual master cylinder.
I can see two adjustment points each for the clutch and the brake.
One is the fork adjustment on the end of the m/c pushrod.
The other appears to be a nut and bolt fixed to the pedal box and acting as 
a stop.

All the manuals I have tell me how to adjust the fork ends.
None of them mention how to set this nut and bolt assembly..

Can any one help with this info??


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun May 18 17:21:40 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:21:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] metal joint
References: <87A88EBC814548B68A2F2AD24B2ED329@Home><!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAGzAFn49WZxLmlfCPbmkFmIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com><482C186A.1090301@smarc.net>
	<00c201c8b6ca$0635d760$6801a8c0@shop><482C934C.2010003@smarc.net>
	<010b01c8b6ce$b5fca210$6801a8c0@shop>
	<2385DC0E08AB4DD1BC178488D8029B66@Home>
Message-ID: <004c01c8b93d$edc6c6f0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<My experience here is that I am more likely to find someone good at jumping up 
and down than I am to find someone good at huffing and puffing.>>

Just WRONG neighborhood(s), Michael!!  Areas in Chi lose several nitwits a year to the latter!!!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun May 18 16:27:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 15:27:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] convertible tops
In-Reply-To: <0651A766-F90D-44C1-90A9-49AA58DA5DD2@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <C455FB7F.161FE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Mk ll's have longer cockpits with open space for the dog behind the seats.

> tell me if a top made for a MKII Sprite will fit a
> Bugeye. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 17:16:19 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:16:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual M/C question...
In-Reply-To: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <407607936.20080518161619@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

      if you're talking about the the nuts and bolt that serve as the
      end stops in the pedal box, 

       it should have been factory adjusted.. there should not be any
     reason to change it

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  We gave our organs to science and plan to do the same with our piano. 

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun May 18 17:23:21 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 16:23:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re:  convertible tops
In-Reply-To: <002c01c8b93d$22d50ab0$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <C455FB7F.161FE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<002c01c8b93d$22d50ab0$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <773F0394-CA50-45CE-93ED-27C0AA1B6361@gerardsgarage.com>

Well, I decided to dig them out and compare them and it does seem  
that the MKII is a bit longer in the horizontal portion so overall   
length is greater.

Thanks for the feedback.

Gerard

On May 18, 2008, at 4:16 PM, Jack Laird wrote:

> I'm sure it will but don't spend your money on just my rememberances.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
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> Midget/Sprite
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>   Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: [Spridgets] convertible tops
>
>
>   Mk ll's have longer cockpits with open space for the dog behind  
> the seats.
>
>> tell me if a top made for a MKII Sprite will fit a
>> Bugeye.
>
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From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May 18 18:39:48 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:39:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual M/C question...
In-Reply-To: <407607936.20080518161619@pacifier.com>
References: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<407607936.20080518161619@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <483069E4.4992.234DC3F@dmg.bossig.com>

Bill,

Thank you for your reply

On 18 May 2008 at 16:16, Bill L wrote:
>>       if you're talking about the the nuts and bolt that serve as the
>>       end stops in the pedal box, 
Yep... them's the ones ;-))

>>        it should have been factory adjusted.. there should not be any
>>      reason to change it
The brake side stop was (is?) OK --- nicely rusted inplace  ;-))
The clutch side one was not secured by the locking nuts and was slopping 
around.
I've tightened it down using the inner stop nut but it looks very different in 
length from it's companion..
Should I make them the same length on the inside ?
 Or should I have left the inner stop nut and tighened it using the outside 
stop nut?
Either way, I can't figure out what it's supposed to do...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 19:25:08 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:25:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual M/C question...
In-Reply-To: <483069E4.4992.234DC3F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<407607936.20080518161619@pacifier.com>
	<483069E4.4992.234DC3F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <1237754439.20080518182508@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     i see them as identical in length INSIDE the pedal box, at 3/4"
     as near as i can measure.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  As my grandfather had said in his last words, "A TRUCK!" 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 20:47:04 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:47:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vancouver ABFM and a reflection
Message-ID: <962895994.20080518194704@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  A quick report on the Vancouver BC ABFM..... in a word MAGNIFICENT!


  the weather finally turned in the Pacific Northwest. We went from
  highs in 50s to lows in the 60s in about two days time, with the
  change starting in time for a perfect drive up I-5 from near the
  Oregon border to Vancouver. This is the first year that I NEVER had
  to put the top up, let alone getting DRENCHED at some point during
  the trip. The skies were blue, the flowers in bloom and the heat was
  on for an absolutely perfect day on Saturday. It showed in the
  turnout both of participants and spectators. I caught up with old
  friends, and met new ones. The trip itself was also as good as it
  gets, with a final mileage figure of over 500 miles at over 38.8
  miles per gallon...  this is with a 5 1098, 5 speed, and 3.9 final
  drive, driving at a near steady 60 mph--- a shakedown for the LoTO
  trip. maybe i'll do a tune up before then... fewer than 35 days till
  the beginning of THAT adventure!...

  YEEHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  What a treat to have chosen a collector car that is affordable to
  DRIVE! i don't know what the hot rodders with 500+ horsepower and 10
  to mpg do!? sit and look at their cars instead of driving them to
  their shows perhaps.....

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I've transferred my money back into my German savings account," Tom remarked with interest.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 21:23:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:23:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vancouver ABFM and a Refelction
Message-ID: <1918031802.20080518202347@pacifier.com>

Hello Sprite,

  Hello Spridgets,

  A quick report on the Vancouver BC ABFM..... in a word MAGNIFICENT!


  the weather finally turned in the Pacific Northwest. We went from
  highs in 50s to lows in the 60s in about two days time, with the
  change starting in time for a perfect drive up I-5 from near the
  Oregon border to Vancouver. This is the first year that I NEVER had
  to put the top up, let alone getting DRENCHED at some point during
  the trip. The skies were blue, the flowers in bloom and the heat was
  on for an absolutely perfect day on Saturday. It showed in the
  turnout both of participants and spectators. I caught up with old
  friends, and met new ones. The trip itself was also as good as it
  gets, with a final mileage figure of over 500 miles at over 38.8
  miles per gallon...  this is with a 5 1098, 5 speed, and 3.9 final
  drive, driving at a near steady 60 mph--- a shakedown for the LoTO
  trip. maybe i'll do a tune up before then... fewer than 35 days till
  the beginning of THAT adventure!...

  YEEHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  What a treat to have chosen a collector car that is affordable to
  DRIVE! i don't know what the hot rodders with 500+ horsepower and 10
  to mpg do!? sit and look at their cars instead of driving them to
  their shows perhaps.....


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Alzheimers advantage: New friends every day 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun May 18 21:46:41 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:46:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dual M/C question...
In-Reply-To: <1237754439.20080518182508@pacifier.com>
References: <483026EC.19180.12F4535@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<483069E4.4992.234DC3F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<1237754439.20080518182508@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <483095B1.26776.2DFF8DF@dmg.bossig.com>

Bill,

Thanks a lot... that's what I needed to know....
I'll get on it tomorrow and make them both the same...

Dave. G.  

On 18 May 2008 at 18:25, Bill L wrote:

>>      i see them as identical in length INSIDE the pedal box, at 3/4"
>>      as near as i can measure.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 21:23:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:23:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vancouver ABFM and a Refelction
Message-ID: <1918031802.20080518202347@pacifier.com>

Hello Sprite,

  Hello Spridgets,

  A quick report on the Vancouver BC ABFM..... in a word MAGNIFICENT!


  the weather finally turned in the Pacific Northwest. We went from
  highs in 50s to lows in the 60s in about two days time, with the
  change starting in time for a perfect drive up I-5 from near the
  Oregon border to Vancouver. This is the first year that I NEVER had
  to put the top up, let alone getting DRENCHED at some point during
  the trip. The skies were blue, the flowers in bloom and the heat was
  on for an absolutely perfect day on Saturday. It showed in the
  turnout both of participants and spectators. I caught up with old
  friends, and met new ones. The trip itself was also as good as it
  gets, with a final mileage figure of over 500 miles at over 38.8
  miles per gallon...  this is with a 5 1098, 5 speed, and 3.9 final
  drive, driving at a near steady 60 mph--- a shakedown for the LoTO
  trip. maybe i'll do a tune up before then... fewer than 35 days till
  the beginning of THAT adventure!...

  YEEHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  What a treat to have chosen a collector car that is affordable to
  DRIVE! i don't know what the hot rodders with 500+ horsepower and 10
  to mpg do!? sit and look at their cars instead of driving them to
  their shows perhaps.....


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Alzheimers advantage: New friends every day 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 22:03:51 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:03:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vancouver BC ABFM and Refelction
Message-ID: <479975770.20080518210351@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,


  A quick report on the Vancouver BC ABFM..... in a word MAGNIFICENT!


  the weather finally turned in the Pacific Northwest. We went from
  highs in 50s to lows in the 60s in about two days time, with the
  change starting in time for a perfect drive up I-5 from near the
  Oregon border to Vancouver. This is the first year that I NEVER had
  to put the top up, let alone getting DRENCHED at some point during
  the trip. The skies were blue, the flowers in bloom and the heat was
  on for an absolutely perfect day on Saturday. It showed in the
  turnout both of participants and spectators. I caught up with old
  friends, and met new ones. The trip itself was also as good as it
  gets, with a final mileage figure of over 500 miles at over 38.8
  miles per gallon...  this is with a 5 1098, 5 speed, and 3.9 final
  drive, driving at a near steady 60 mph--- a shakedown for the LoTO
  trip. maybe i'll do a tune up before then... fewer than 35 days till
  the beginning of THAT adventure!...

  YEEHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  What a treat to have chosen a collector car that is affordable to
  DRIVE! i don't know what the hot rodders with 500+ horsepower and 10
  to mpg do!? sit and look at their cars instead of driving them to
  their shows perhaps.....



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Which is the non-smoking lifeboat? 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 18 22:17:24 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 21:17:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test... no reply necessary
Message-ID: <810365814.20080518211724@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  test// test// test///



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "It's a bloody lion," said Tom categorically.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon May 19 09:07:33 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:07:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
Message-ID: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>

OK, folks, just how hard is it to rebuild one of these Datsun 5-speeds? Mine 
has been building up a bit of a whine and it is getting worse. Rivergate has 
a rebuild kit for $184, but I have no detectable experience in transmission 
rebuilding. Local trans shops are telling me $350 to $400 in labor charges 
plus whatever else needs done, so I would rather do it myself if it is not 
rocket science. Anybody done one?
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 09:21:40 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:21:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805190821j6f048cbby77a88bd80172956@mail.gmail.com>

I should have a copy of the manual for trans assembly/disassembly.  I
can check when I get home if you're interested.

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May 19 09:41:28 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:41:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
References: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I've done two and they're not that difficult.  No fly-away ball-bearings 
like a spridget and the shift assembly is a bit easier.

For what its worth, the one I had "professionally" rebuilt still had a bit 
of crunch in second, while the one I did myself is flawless.
Do it yourself.  Be sure to carefully examine the three little "dogs" that 
grip the synchros.  Be sure the ones on second are the best looking of all.

Glen Byrns


> OK, folks, just how hard is it to rebuild one of these Datsun 5-speeds? 
> Mine
> has been building up a bit of a whine and it is getting worse. Rivergate 
> has
> a rebuild kit for $184, but I have no detectable experience in 
> transmission
> rebuilding. Local trans shops are telling me $350 to $400 in labor charges
> plus whatever else needs done, so I would rather do it myself if it is not
> rocket science. Anybody done one?
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon May 19 09:59:08 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:59:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] all Brit show
Message-ID: <33380F34459E42CA9D2BB74DCAA3D22A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

What used to be the Dixon show and is now the Woodland show is over.  There
were over 200 British cars on the grass yesterday.  Very warm (100deg.)
conditions meant the shaved ice girl made a fortune.  The turnout included but
wasn't limited to:

Seven(!) bugeye Sprites, 6 Spridgets
about a dozen each new and old Minis
Triumph World Roadster, whole line of TR3s, TR2s, etc.
Allard K2 (with BIG Offenhauser engine)
Three (!) baby Austin 7's, Austin taxi, Marina
Morris 8,Morris Minor pick-up, flat-bed, convertible, 4-door, and Traveler
Jaguar MkIV, MkIX, several E-types, XK120, other early saloons
Lotus Europa, Elise, Elite, Super 7
Rolls Royce (1953 and 70-something)
Rovers(MkI to modern saloon)
Big Healeys (about two dozen from 100/4 to whatever)
MGTC, TD, TF
MGA (about 8 or so)
about a dozen MGBs
and probably a bunch of other stuff I won't remember until I post the pictures
this evening.

Larry Miller was there without Bugzuki, but he said he's be right behind me on
the way to MIssouri.  Only one other Spridgeteer seemed to be considering
coming to Missouri.  A few other Spridget owners noticed and commented on the
boot badge from Colin.  He should get another order or two today.  While I'm
as happy as I can be with my garage paint job, it was clear that every other
Sprite with a professional paint job looked better. I waste all my money and
time on mechanical stuff instead of appearance.  Oh well, I probably beat most
of them home.

Glen Byrns

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon May 19 10:06:16 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:06:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] all Brit show
In-Reply-To: <33380F34459E42CA9D2BB74DCAA3D22A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <33380F34459E42CA9D2BB74DCAA3D22A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080519110533.038be1b8@nosimport.com>

At 10:59 AM 5/19/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
>What used to be the Dixon show and is now the Woodland show is over.  There
>were over 200 British cars on the grass yesterday.  Very warm (100deg.)
>conditions meant the shaved ice girl made a fortune.

And if she hadn't shaved?.......................



Ed

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon May 19 10:10:06 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:10:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] all Brit show
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080519110533.038be1b8@nosimport.com>
References: <33380F34459E42CA9D2BB74DCAA3D22A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080519110533.038be1b8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805190910m4ff3312he38372ddb54facde@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 10:59 AM 5/19/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
> >What used to be the Dixon show and is now the Woodland show is over.
>  There
> >were over 200 British cars on the grass yesterday.  Very warm (100deg.)
> >conditions meant the shaved ice girl made a fortune.
>
> And if she hadn't shaved?.......................


Just floss a little extra when you get home......


Larry "psycho-babble"

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 10:30:27 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805190930r58cd6e4ex6add4be8eb81aa8a@mail.gmail.com>

I took one apart to examine everything.  I decided it didn't need a
rebuild.  Taking it apart and putting it back together wasn't that
difficult, as I recall.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 10:30:27 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805190930r58cd6e4ex6add4be8eb81aa8a@mail.gmail.com>

I took one apart to examine everything.  I decided it didn't need a
rebuild.  Taking it apart and putting it back together wasn't that
difficult, as I recall.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 10:30:51 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:30:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <376319F5288D41C9ABD47D99A4DDFC20@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<4D51535A7726454A89B1B2510D2451F3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805190930n7d3051a0pc0b70c7f2480053e@mail.gmail.com>

I took one apart to examine everything.  I decided it didn't need a
rebuild.  Taking it apart and putting it back together wasn't that
difficult, as I recall.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon May 19 10:43:06 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:43:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
Message-ID: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>

I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and a foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon May 19 10:57:36 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:57:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] all Brit show
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090805190910m4ff3312he38372ddb54facde@mail.gmail.com>
References: <33380F34459E42CA9D2BB74DCAA3D22A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080519110533.038be1b8@nosimport.com>
	<e98d88090805190910m4ff3312he38372ddb54facde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3173F05F-270E-4E09-A1B8-642E99A69A0D@comcast.net>

WHOA!  That's a lot on a Monday morning!!

Lester


On May 19, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
>> At 10:59 AM 5/19/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
>>> What used to be the Dixon show and is now the Woodland show is over.
>>  There
>>> were over 200 British cars on the grass yesterday.  Very warm  
>>> (100deg.)
>>> conditions meant the shaved ice girl made a fortune.
>>
>> And if she hadn't shaved?.......................
>
>
> Just floss a little extra when you get home......
>
>
> Larry "psycho-babble"
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon May 19 11:25:50 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:25:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
Message-ID: <008401c8b9d5$63b72a20$4e03f204@spider>

My mother did the roof of our 1948 Willys-Overland Jeep wagon in 1955 with a
paint brush. Held up real well and you couldn't see the brush as the vehicle
stood so tall. ...bill
=========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 9:43 AM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint

I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and a foam
roller.  Please contact me off-list.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY
_______________________________________________

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon May 19 12:01:39 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:01:39 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] MkII top
Message-ID: <20080519.120139.1432.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>

Gerard- If you need to get the MKII top out of your garage, I have a ready and
willing receptor for it. :^0
Mark Haynes
HAN6L17996
_____________________________________________________________
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Mon May 19 12:14:58 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:14:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
Message-ID: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I have a Datsun tranny sitting in my basement patiently waiting for me to finish the 1275.  I have been tempted to overhaul the Datsun engine that is sitting beside it and put it in the '79 with the tranny.  It is a 1488 with a lot more hp than the 1500, plus it is lighter.  Anybody ever put the Datsun engine in a Spridget?  Any Caveats?  

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> OK, folks, just how hard is it to rebuild one of these Datsun 5-speeds? Mine 
> has been building up a bit of a whine and it is getting worse. Rivergate has 
> a rebuild kit for $184, but I have no detectable experience in transmission 
> rebuilding. Local trans shops are telling me $350 to $400 in labor charges 
> plus whatever else needs done, so I would rather do it myself if it is not 
> rocket science. Anybody done one?
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon May 19 12:23:58 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 11:23:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider>

There is at least one good Datsun site on YahooGroups.  ...bill
ClassicDatsunPickups at yahoogroups.com


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:15 AM
To: David Lieb; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild

I have a Datsun tranny sitting in my basement patiently waiting for me to
finish the 1275.  I have been tempted to overhaul the Datsun engine that is
sitting beside it and put it in the '79 with the tranny.  It is a 1488 with
a lot more hp than the 1500, plus it is lighter.  Anybody ever put the
Datsun engine in a Spridget?  Any Caveats?  

--David C.

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon May 19 13:11:39 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:11:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1211220002.20507.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1211220002.20507.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4831D0EB.40001@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and 
> a foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.

Wasn't me, but googling "paint your car for $50" finds these:

http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/10/how-to-paint-your-car-for-50/
http://www.instructables.com/id/Paint-Your-Car-With-Rustoleum/

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon May 19 13:47:16 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:47:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MkII top
Message-ID: <18536483.1211226436654.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have a '61 Bugeye that uses a Mk II top and the folding two-piece top bows.  It works excellent.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: M <haynes386 at netzero.net>
>Sent: May 19, 2008 2:01 PM
>To: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] MkII top
>
>Gerard- If you need to get the MKII top out of your garage, I have a ready and
>willing receptor for it. :^0
>Mark Haynes
>HAN6L17996
>_____________________________________________________________


________________________________________
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Mon May 19 13:58:43 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 15:58:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Front Wheel Bearings??
Message-ID: <4831DBF3.6080801@verizon.net>

Just got in a replacement set of front wheel bearings for the 72.
UniPart number is GHK 1924. Somehow they just don't look
quite right. I'll find out tomorrow for sure, but I'd like to know
in advance.

thanks

chuck in nc

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon May 19 14:02:59 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:02:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
Message-ID: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>

What's YOUR favorite spridget exhaust system / sound? I have a PECO on 
my mgb, sounds great. Trying to figure out what the midget is going to 
get...

-- 

Marc

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon May 19 14:12:26 2008
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <4831D0EB.40001@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <117781.66380.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

   Here's another:
   http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/body/hrdp_0707_1962_ford_falcon_bud
   get_paint_job/index.html
   rick
   --- On Mon, 5/19/08, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:

     From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
     Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
     To: spridgets at autox.team.net
     Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 3:11 PM
Michael Rowe wrote:
> I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and 
> a foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.
Wasn't me, but googling "paint your car for $50" finds these:
http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/10/how-to-paint-your-car-for-50/
http://www.instructables.com/id/Paint-Your-Car-With-Rustoleum/
-- 
Kent McLean
'56
 100 BN2
You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon May 19 17:03:51 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:03:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding helmets
Message-ID: <5CD52796F9DB48D792090E069B98082D@Home>

Cheap auto-adjusting welding helmets on eBay are $40-50.  Good helmets are $200-300.  Does anyone have enough experience to judge whether or not the cheap ones are adequate for occasional use?  It would be good if they can be fitted with a magnifying lens.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 17:10:01 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:10:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding helmets
In-Reply-To: <5CD52796F9DB48D792090E069B98082D@Home>
References: <5CD52796F9DB48D792090E069B98082D@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805191610s67c74563tb3db694c5005153e@mail.gmail.com>

Welding helmet is like racing helmet:  How much is your head (are your
eyes) worth?
I got a cheap regular helmet and put a good auto-darkening lens in it.
I am getting ready to buy another helmet for use at work so I am
curious as to what other listers have to say about them, too.
Cheers,
Derf

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 19 17:11:12 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:11:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
In-Reply-To: <008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider>
References: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider>
Message-ID: <815672037.20080519161112@pacifier.com>

Hello,

        last year one of, none other than PAUL A's customers
        complained about Paul's rebuild. NONE of the synchro's worked.
        Paul and i went to examine the culprit, and sure enough, it
        was as if it were a non-synchro box.. Paul rebuilt it again,
        with the same result. now its not like he hadn't rebuilt them
        before, or EVER does sloppy work.......... turned out on the
        third try Paul found that some the the Brass looking pieces
        that are kinda like star washers but about 2 " in diameter....
        i don't know the name of them at all, not being a tranny guy,
        BUT.. they were now coming from a different source IN the
        factory rebuild kit, and they were WRONG... . .he went thru
        about 20 of them and had less than half of them being the
        correct.. ... thickness?.... ....... .....


        just a caveat to those contemplating doing it themselves. just
        because you've done it absolutely correctly with the factory
        parts available, doesn't mean that the tranny will work!!!!!!


        get a hold of Paul, find out what the exact part is and what
        it SHOULD measure!!!!!!!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Love thy neighbour - but don't get caught! 

From glenncummins at suddenlink.net  Mon May 19 17:39:37 2008
From: glenncummins at suddenlink.net (R. Glenn Cummins)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:39:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Horn Troubleshooting
Message-ID: <000801c8ba09$99a1f820$28af6f4b@your4dacd0ea75>

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to make my car street legal for the first time, which means having
a working horn.  If you could get me straight on some basics, I'd appreciate
it.

I know that purple is always hot.  So it looks like purple and black are also
hot, and the horn push grounds it out and causes the horn to sound?  So far
I'm not getting anything at the horn push.  I tested the horn with a hot wire
from the battery, and it works fine.

Thanks,
Glenn
'74 Midget
Lubbock, TX

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon May 19 18:02:55 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:02:55 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Welding helmets
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910805191610s67c74563tb3db694c5005153e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5CD52796F9DB48D792090E069B98082D@Home>
	<5f00d9910805191610s67c74563tb3db694c5005153e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23681.164.58.184.10.1211241775.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

According to the welding instructor at the local vo-tech where I learned a
skill.

 He said that even the cheap ones have to meet the minimum under a no
black out condition.  In other words, it may be real bright in the case
of a failure but the glass it's self is still blocking the harmful non
visible light.  He said the only differance in the lenses on non auto
hoods was the comfort level for you the user, the lightest lens provided
the same protection as the darkest.  With that said he of course
cautioned against using a light lens as your eyes and head will feel much
better afterwards.  My question to him was what happens if it doesn't
darken, which is what got the whole conversation started.

Thats my .02.

Charlie

> Welding helmet is like racing helmet:  How much is your head (are your
> eyes) worth?
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Mon May 19 18:31:59 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 17:31:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
References: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider>
	<815672037.20080519161112@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <B20BFC28CE7949C9B62DAF32F123771E@DBKF4T81>

Baulk rings ... "synchronizers". Good ones will "lock" up against the gear 
using nothing more than finger pressure. You push them down onto the gear 
and twist and they don't budge on the gear. The problematic ones would 
budge. You push as hard as you can, twist, and feel them slip on the gear.

Note ... I do not know if these were "factory" parts. And I do not know if 
factory baulk rings are available. I do know that some of them that came in 
the rebuild kits apparently weren't beveled to specs on the mating, inside 
surfaces.

As a side note, I'm thinking that the minimum tolerance for a baulk ring, 
once it is pushed down against the gear, is something like 0.40 or 0.41. 
Don't quote me on that ... it's just that I am too lazy to go look it up 
right now.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild


> Hello,
>
>        last year one of, none other than PAUL A's customers
>        complained about Paul's rebuild. NONE of the synchro's worked.
>        Paul and i went to examine the culprit, and sure enough, it
>        was as if it were a non-synchro box.. Paul rebuilt it again,
>        with the same result. now its not like he hadn't rebuilt them
>        before, or EVER does sloppy work.......... turned out on the
>        third try Paul found that some the the Brass looking pieces
>        that are kinda like star washers but about 2 " in diameter....
>        i don't know the name of them at all, not being a tranny guy,
>        BUT.. they were now coming from a different source IN the
>        factory rebuild kit, and they were WRONG... . .he went thru
>        about 20 of them and had less than half of them being the
>        correct.. ... thickness?.... ....... .....
>
>
>        just a caveat to those contemplating doing it themselves. just
>        because you've done it absolutely correctly with the factory
>        parts available, doesn't mean that the tranny will work!!!!!!
>
>
>        get a hold of Paul, find out what the exact part is and what
>        it SHOULD measure!!!!!!!
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  Love thy neighbour - but don't get caught!
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net
>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon May 19 18:46:29 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:46:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
References: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider><815672037.20080519161112@pacifier.com>
	<B20BFC28CE7949C9B62DAF32F123771E@DBKF4T81>
Message-ID: <007101c8ba12$f1904240$0201a8c0@midget>

> As a side note, I'm thinking that the minimum tolerance for a baulk ring, 
> once it is pushed down against the gear, is something like 0.40 or 0.41. 
> Don't quote me on that ... it's just that I am too lazy to go look it up 
> right now.

BTW, Rivergate has a decent-quality scan of the manual at 
http://www.rivergate5speed.com/transmission_book_300dpi.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/5ub2ny

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon May 19 18:51:50 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:51:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Horn Troubleshooting
In-Reply-To: <000801c8ba09$99a1f820$28af6f4b@your4dacd0ea75>
References: <000801c8ba09$99a1f820$28af6f4b@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805191751n3842bbf4s5b3d04271d788e53@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but wasn't your car street legal when it was new?
Check the fuses on the right side firewall, under the hood.
Brown is hot, IIRC.

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Mon May 19 19:57:22 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:57:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild
References: <051920081814.21259.4831C3A20005A8AB0000530B2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><008b01c8b9dd$827250e0$4e03f204@spider><815672037.20080519161112@pacifier.com>
	<B20BFC28CE7949C9B62DAF32F123771E@DBKF4T81>
	<007101c8ba12$f1904240$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <85883EA48F8F4AF7A3E63744036D40ED@DBKF4T81>

Okay ... I peeked. It's easier to access on-line than it is to wade through 
the pile of book in which the Datusn manual resides.

Standard baulk-ring-to-cone clearance: 0.0433 - 0.0551 (1.10 - 1.40 mm)

Thanks for the link ... I did not know it existed.

Pete


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Rebuild


>> As a side note, I'm thinking that the minimum tolerance for a baulk ring,
>> once it is pushed down against the gear, is something like 0.40 or 0.41.
>> Don't quote me on that ... it's just that I am too lazy to go look it up
>> right now.
>
> BTW, Rivergate has a decent-quality scan of the manual at
> http://www.rivergate5speed.com/transmission_book_300dpi.pdf
> http://tinyurl.com/5ub2ny
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From Jpp963 at aol.com  Mon May 19 20:02:06 2008
From: Jpp963 at aol.com (Jpp963 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:02:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] all Brit show, now WWOT
Message-ID: <bd3.21bd8a7b.35638b1e@aol.com>

I nominate "shaved ice girl" for Skanky Miss (LBC)......
 
Is there going to be a contest at the LOTO meet??????
 
Sorry, I couldn't resist......
 
Pete G.




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(http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon May 19 20:12:34 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 19:12:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Grassroots 2007 winner
Message-ID: <353290.74125.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I got a free Grassroots Motorsports in the mail May
2008 issue. The winner of their $2007 build-a-car
challenge was a Corvette modified with a huge blower
mounted and driven by a small motor to provide down
force. They mentioned it was off an M1 Abrams tank.
Turns out it's one of the fans we make at work. The
article mentions that the Vette team called the
original designer of the fan to get the fan curves.
Not sure who they talked to, as the original designer
is, as Casey Stengel said, "dead at the present time,
and you could look it up." 

Ron

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon May 19 21:40:20 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:40:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com>

The best sound ever was the Abarth, alas no longer available.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 19, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Marc wrote:

> What's YOUR favorite spridget exhaust system / sound? I have a PECO on
> my mgb, sounds great. Trying to figure out what the midget is going to
> get...
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon May 19 22:52:46 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:52:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>
	<F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com>
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I have to agree with Bob.  Had it on my 948 Bugeye.  You just did not need
a radio with that exhaust, beautiful tone.  I have a 1275 in my car now
with a Maniflow Spridsget exhaust system.  Sounds awsome too.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Kitterer Bob
> The best sound ever was the Abarth, alas no longer available.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On May 19, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Marc wrote:
>
>> What's YOUR favorite spridget exhaust system / sound? I have a PECO on
>> my mgb, sounds great. Trying to figure out what the midget is going to
>> get...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Marc
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May 20 00:36:55 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <603156.30442.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> I have to agree with Bob.  

Not really an option ;-0, but I gotta go with a ground
shakin', earth quakin', wimp chasin', neighbor hatin',
Viagra takin' 2" straight pipe, no muffler. At $10,
it's a bargain too, until the noise ordinance
violations start piling up.

Ron

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue May 20 11:30:18 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 12:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hey, isn't today....
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080520122921.03b2ed58@mailbag.com>

the Bugeye Frogeye birthday?


Peter C.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue May 20 11:35:15 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:35:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hey, isn't today....
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080520122921.03b2ed58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080520122921.03b2ed58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <875aa14613a1e3fcadf89a.20080520103515.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Only if you have car number 501.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite (birthday 2 March 1960)
56 BN2


Peter C
> the Bugeye Frogeye birthday?
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From ricksnover at earthlink.net  Tue May 20 11:35:50 2008
From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:35:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hey, isn't today....
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080520122921.03b2ed58@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080520122921.03b2ed58@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <E1JyVkd-0008Ge-Kd@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

At 10:30 AM 5/20/2008, Peter C wrote:
>the Bugeye Frogeye birthday?

Depends on how you define the "birth" of a car...  completion of 
first prototype, first public appearance, first production car off 
the line, first public sale, or...? We could be celebrating all year. 
I don't mind!

Rick
--
Rick Snover, San Diego, California, USA
V.P. (Membership), Activities Chairman & Webmaster, Austin-Healey 
Club of S.D. http://www.sdhealey.org
2nd V.P. (Membership) & Webmaster, S.D. British Car Club Council 
http://www.sandiegobritishcarday.org
1964 Sprite Mk III driver, 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA 
http://www.vararacing.com)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue May 20 15:01:45 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:01:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>
	<F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com>
	<268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com>

Somehow nostalgia always makes things seem better.  The "No Longer
Available" makes them sound even better, in a way.

You old farts may not appreciate them but some of the sound emanating
from modern hot rods cars, like blow-off valves are very cool

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue May 20 15:07:00 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:07:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com><268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01136C118A9E4F8FA45909FFCFBFECD8@NilesAD.von.gov>

> You old farts may not appreciate them but some of the sound emanating
> from modern hot rods cars, like blow-off valves are very cool


I guess it is time to ressurrect the old joke again...

Why do ricers install fart cans on their cars?

































So blind people can hate them, too!

From kvacek at ameritech.net  Tue May 20 15:09:42 2008
From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 16:09:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com><268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com>
	<01136C118A9E4F8FA45909FFCFBFECD8@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <9B1AAFECF1DF46B198B44904F7BA7D0F@KARL>

So blind people can hate them too  <rimshot>



> I guess it is time to ressurrect the old joke again...
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From smarc at smarc.net  Tue May 20 16:02:42 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <9B1AAFECF1DF46B198B44904F7BA7D0F@KARL>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com><268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com>
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oh yeah, gotta love a fart can.... NOT.... So, uh, seriously, what kind 
of exhaust systems are you using? Mine has some nameless steel system, 
looks like an OEM style with dual cans. Very quiet. too quiet... Wonder 
how it would sound if I removed one of the packs...

Marc



Karl Vacek wrote:
> So blind people can hate them too  <rimshot>
>
>
>
>   
>> I guess it is time to ressurrect the old joke again...
>>
>> Why do ricers install fart cans on their cars?

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue May 20 18:01:50 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:01:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <48334A82.6060707@smarc.net>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com><268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1BB10C49-E5D0-4E21-8769-504599C687C0@valentinephoto.net>

Marc,

The wife's 74 has a stock system from the 69 Midget with a single  
muffler and a pipe that runs straight back.  My son's 74 Bugeye'd   
Midget runs the same system with a slightly quieter muffler (taken  
from the later Midgets but run without the resonator).

I am running a header and $20 bullet style glasspack from JC Whitney  
on my 71............   It's louder ;)

For long drives, (more than 100miles), I prefer the stock system from  
the 69 Midget.  The muffler is a straight thru design but is quieter  
than the glasspack.

Kevin V.



On May 20, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Marc wrote:

> oh yeah, gotta love a fart can.... NOT.... So, uh, seriously, what  
> kind
> of exhaust systems are you using? Mine has some nameless steel system,
> looks like an OEM style with dual cans. Very quiet. too quiet...  
> Wonder
> how it would sound if I removed one of the packs...

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 20 19:15:46 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com><268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910805201401k337882fcg12013df98b6f39d7@mail.gmail.com><01136C118A9E4F8FA45909FFCFBFECD8@NilesAD.von.gov><9B1AAFECF1DF46B198B44904F7BA7D0F@KARL>
	<48334A82.6060707@smarc.net>
	<1BB10C49-E5D0-4E21-8769-504599C687C0@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <004c01c8bae0$33040040$6801a8c0@shop>

Someone mentioned Abarth earlier.  Ask and you shall receive!!!  <VBG>

http://tinyurl.com/4wrfuc

Or Item #  250200559626

Happy bidding!!!

Ed

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Tue May 20 18:33:57 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:33:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ribbed rubber for MkI doors
Message-ID: <64EF23A3-32BB-4433-8E4F-E4A1D6687E86@gmail.com>

Can anyone give me an online source for the Bugeye interior door  
rubber that's close to the correct one.

I've looked many times locally and can find none.  I need some in black.

thanks.

Phil Nase
bugi1960 at gmail.com

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue May 20 18:50:03 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:50:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
Message-ID: <133940.1122421211331004055.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web07-z02>

Kind of gives new meaning to "I'm not going to pay a lot for this muffler"
looks cool though.
Chris

66 MKII
Brookfield, WI

---- Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote: 
> Someone mentioned Abarth earlier.  Ask and you shall receive!!!  <VBG>
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4wrfuc
> 
> Or Item #  250200559626
> 
> Happy bidding!!!
> 
> Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue May 20 19:09:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:09:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ribbed rubber for MkI doors
In-Reply-To: <64EF23A3-32BB-4433-8E4F-E4A1D6687E86@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <236290.51303.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Phil Nase <bugi1960 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can anyone give me an online source for the Bugeye
> interior door  
> rubber that's close to the correct 

http://www.ahspares.co.uk

Mine look good.

Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue May 20 19:34:56 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:34:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Prospero's Wiring Diagrams
Message-ID: <00d401c8bae2$e0ac90c0$0201a8c0@midget>

It looks like the website is back up at 
http://www.colorwiringdiagrams.com/index.html
He is up to 18 diagrams to cover from the Bugeye to the 1975+.
NFI, etc. 

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue May 20 19:38:27 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 18:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
In-Reply-To: <004c01c8bae0$33040040$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net>
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Message-ID: <A3C3117B-220E-4BB9-8BA9-B7D34132D29C@mac.com>

Thats the muffler but it is for the 948 engine with the slightly  
smaller diameter exhaust pipe.  But almost $500, I don't think so. I  
guess there was a model for the 1100 engine and the one for the 1275  
was only available (in CA at least) for a very short period of time.
Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On May 20, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> Someone mentioned Abarth earlier.  Ask and you shall receive!!!  <VBG>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4wrfuc
>
> Or Item #  250200559626
>
> Happy bidding!!!
>
> Ed
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From smarc at smarc.net  Tue May 20 22:16:20 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 00:16:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
Message-ID: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>

OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in 
your sleep...

Here's how I envision this...

have borrowed lift and engine stand

remove bonnet
drain coolant
drain engine oil
drain transmission oil
disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
remove radiator (does anything else have to come out? this is a 73 Midget)
disconnect everything from engine.
remove gearshift lever
jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
disconnect speedo and reverse lights
remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
take up slack in chains, unbolt motor mounts
finesse engine out...

while it's out

- put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
- replace side cover gaskets
- install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
- bolt on rebuilt transmission (anything I need to know about speedo gears?)

"assembly is the reverse of above procedure"

Advice? Items to have on hand?

Thanks for all useful info!

-- 

Marc

From hal at katemuir.com  Tue May 20 22:38:29 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:38:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEJIHBAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Marc,
The first step should be disconnect [and remove] battery.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Marc
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:16 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal


OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in 
your sleep...

Here's how I envision this...

have borrowed lift and engine stand

remove bonnet

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue May 20 23:23:13 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 22:23:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
References: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <1323849458.20080520222313@pacifier.com>

Hello Marc,

     and of course when disconnecting the speedo, disconnect the
     clutch hydraulics..

     don't forget the exhaust pipe ...



     also.. under finesse the engine out..

     the "book" says..lift the engine appox 3/4", swing the engine as
     far to the left as possible and remove the right hand rubber
     mounting together with its body bracket..
     the left hand fron rubber mounting and bracket assembley can now
     be easily removed.


     what its about it finessing at around the steering column!..
     there's not enough space to just lift it out without removing the
     brackets and you can't remove the brackets without juggling the
     engine left and right!..

     good luck.. its not all that hard!



     also .. its much easier when removing the engine and tranny as an
assembly to elveate the front of the car on jack stands MORE than the
rear of the car.. ...

this gives the tranny space to swing DOWN at the rear without hitting
the ground....... 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  At a nude wedding everybody can see who the bestman is. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 21 04:59:34 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 05:59:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
References: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
	<1323849458.20080520222313@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <019d01c8bb31$c1c7fd80$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>


     also .. its much easier when removing the engine and tranny as an
assembly to elveate the front of the car on jack stands MORE than the
rear of the car.. ...

this gives the tranny space to swing DOWN at the rear without hitting
the ground.......
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
 ============================

Bill, I do the opposite -- I jack up the rear of the car so the tranny 
swings down to a more level position and then you don't have to stand it on 
end to get the angle for removal.

LAD 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed May 21 05:13:57 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:13:57 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
Message-ID: <052120081113.2012.483403F50007F592000007DC2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Marc:

An engine leveler is worth it's weight too.   I bought a fairly cheap one from Harbor Freight--it is a bit more cumbersome to use than a more expensive one--but it helped a LOT.

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
> OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in 
> your sleep...
> 
> Here's how I envision this...
> 
> have borrowed lift and engine stand
> 
> remove bonnet
> drain coolant
> drain engine oil
> drain transmission oil
> disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
> remove radiator (does anything else have to come out? this is a 73 Midget)
> disconnect everything from engine.
> remove gearshift lever
> jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
> disconnect speedo and reverse lights
> remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
> take up slack in chains, unbolt motor mounts
> finesse engine out...
> 
> while it's out
> 
> - put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
> - replace side cover gaskets
> - install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
> - bolt on rebuilt transmission (anything I need to know about speedo gears?)
> 
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"
> 
> Advice? Items to have on hand?
> 
> Thanks for all useful info!
> 
> -- 
> 
> Marc
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 21 05:39:04 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 04:39:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <052120081113.2012.483403F50007F592000007DC2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <052120081113.2012.483403F50007F592000007DC2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000501c8bb37$46c91dc0$ee1ff304@spider>

Agreed!   ...bill in Oregon
-----------------------------------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 4:14 AM
To: Marc; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget engine removal

Marc:

An engine leveler is worth it's weight too.   I bought a fairly cheap one
from Harbor Freight--it is a bit more cumbersome to use than a more
expensive one--but it helped a LOT.

--David C.

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Wed May 21 06:37:03 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 8:37:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
Message-ID: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>

---- Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote: 
> OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in 
> your sleep...

Jack up the back of the car, not the front especially if you are working in a low ceilinged garage... Remove the bolts holding the passenger side motor mount to the frame. Remove the nuts from the top of the motor mount rubber (where it attaches to the engine plate) on the driver's side. Wiggle it to get it off while lifting the motor. When you re-install the engine, line up the driver's side first. Start the nuts and wiggle the motor to line up the passenger mount. I have found this to be the easiest way. 

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition
1973 Midget

PS - anybody need a 1975 shell?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 21 06:43:31 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:43:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEJIHBAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35397C2F6D60C9FB6BABDFB8C70@phx.gbl>

With my back, removing the bonnet before removing the battery would be the 
proper order.  Thankfully, you're not using my back. :)

I once forgot to remove the engine to chassis ground strap.  I have 
remembered to reattach it though.

I followed the Haynes manual the first time, and it went flawlessly.  Well 
... I sprained an ankle in an unrelated event which slowed the process down 
by a week.  :)


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>

Marc,
The first step should be disconnect [and remove] battery.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Marc
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 9:16 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal


OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in
your sleep...

Here's how I envision this...

have borrowed lift and engine stand

remove bonnet

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed May 21 06:44:25 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:44:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
Message-ID: <c6a.2f7b3318.35657329@aol.com>

I was there from Saturday morning until 6PM last evening. Seeing as I  needed 
to get back home by this morning however, I missed going to the  closing 
banquet.
 
I must say it was fantastic reconnecting with all the great  people this past 
weekend, and meeting others (both on and off the  lists) for the first time. 
Putting faces to screen names is always a  treat.
 
We need to do this more often.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye
 
PS: After hawking Sprite tee shirts in the hotel lobby for a few hours  
yesterday, I still have some left in all sizes. If anyone is interested. I can  
email you pictures if you'd like to see what they look  like.



**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family 
favorites at AOL Food.      
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May 21 06:49:17 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 05:49:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <019d01c8bb31$c1c7fd80$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
	<1323849458.20080520222313@pacifier.com>
	<019d01c8bb31$c1c7fd80$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <1049898956.20080521054917@pacifier.com>

Hello Larry,

     BRILLIANT!!!!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  That's not line noise--my modem's speaking in tongues! 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 21 07:26:45 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:26:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <019d01c8bb31$c1c7fd80$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39AFA81DAFFD16F330E73BB8C70@phx.gbl>

And ... I leave the car on the ground.  I find it easier to move the car out 
from under the engine/gearbox than to move the engine hoist on my crumbling 
concrete floor.  I don't have an engine leveller either, and as a one man 
operation, I find it easier.  IIRC, I can balance the lump with one hand to 
avoid bodywork and push back on the car with my outter thigh.  YMMV.

Next, I expect we'll have someone who flips the car over on a rotissery ... 
:)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>

      also .. its much easier when removing the engine and tranny as an
assembly to elveate the front of the car on jack stands MORE than the
rear of the car.. ...

this gives the tranny space to swing DOWN at the rear without hitting
the ground.......
--
Best regards,
  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  ============================

Bill, I do the opposite -- I jack up the rear of the car so the tranny
swings down to a more level position and then you don't have to stand it on
end to get the angle for removal.

LAD

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed May 21 07:33:19 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:33:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
Message-ID: <4572802.1211376799660.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I think that the rain attended ;^)).

MC

-----Original Message-----
>From: Miniac7 at aol.com
>Sent: May 21, 2008 8:44 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
>
>I was there from Saturday morning until 6PM last evening. Seeing as I  needed 
>to get back home by this morning however, I missed going to the  closing 
>banquet.
> 
>I must say it was fantastic reconnecting with all the great  people this past 
>weekend, and meeting others (both on and off the  lists) for the first time. 
>Putting faces to screen names is always a  treat.
> 
>We need to do this more often.
> 
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.
>'60 AH Bugeye
> 
>PS: After hawking Sprite tee shirts in the hotel lobby for a few hours  
>yesterday, I still have some left in all sizes. If anyone is interested. I can  
>email you pictures if you'd like to see what they look  like.
>
>
>


________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 21 08:32:27 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 09:32:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...
References: <4831DCF3.7080509@smarc.net><F33A038B-7993-406F-85C7-EA4E5E6FDE0F@mac.com>
	<268b0a5cda8a89d20a51c20a.20080519215246.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <026601c8bb4f$7ea98af0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Mike Lempert (the steering wheel guy) is working on a project to re-create 
the Abarth exhaust system -- cleverly called "Rebarth".


http://www.lempertgroup.com/gears.html

sales at lempertgroup.com


LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at mac.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Exhaust sounds...


I have to agree with Bob.  Had it on my 948 Bugeye.  You just did not need
a radio with that exhaust, beautiful tone.  I have a 1275 in my car now
with a Maniflow Spridsget exhaust system.  Sounds awsome too.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Kitterer Bob
> The best sound ever was the Abarth, alas no longer available.
>
> Bob Kitterer

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 21 09:22:09 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 08:22:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
Message-ID: <4833DBB1.30893.212411@dmg.bossig.com>

I agree.... I found that ths helps reduce the steep (and scary) angle you 
need on the engine/tranny assembly when you pull it.


On 21 May 2008 at 8:37, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote:
>> Jack up the back of the car, not the front especially if you are
>> working in a low ceilinged garage.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 21 09:45:04 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:45:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
References: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080521104034.03a32a30@nosimport.com>

At 11:16 PM 5/20/2008, Marc wrote:
>OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in
>your sleep...
>SNIP
>while it's out
>
>- put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
>- replace side cover gaskets

You don't have any....


Peter C. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 21 10:16:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:16:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080521104034.03a32a30@nosimport.com>
References: <4833A214.3050106@smarc.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080521104034.03a32a30@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805210916s393cfddbiddc0ed4f1f1d99ae@mail.gmail.com>

> At 11:16 PM 5/20/2008, Marc wrote:
> >OK, first time engine removal for me, know some of you can do this in
> >your sleep...


Had I done it in my sleep, I probably wouldn't have the Exxon Valdez oil
leak.....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 21 11:10:24 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 10:10:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
Message-ID: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>

If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list and made them into a list 
for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??

Spridget Engine removal...

1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
3.   disconnect and remove Battery
4.   disconnect ground strap
5.   drain coolant
6.   drain engine oil
7.   drain transmission oil
8.   remove oil filter
9.   disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
10. remove radiator
11. disconnect carburettors *with* manifold
12. disconnect exhaust manifold
13. remove gearshift lever
14. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
16. disconnect clutch hydraulics
17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
18. take up slack in chains
19. lift engine ~3/4"
20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
22. unbolt motor mounts
23. finesse engine out...  

Optional items to do while it's out

a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission

"assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 21 12:31:49 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:31:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48346A95.80508@smarc.net>

This brings up a question I was meaning to ask -

 >> 12. disconnect exhaust manifold 

I was thinking that the exhaust manifold to pipe connection might be 
less then fun, with possibility of broken studs, etc... Are you all just 
unbolting the exhaust manifold, and leaving that pipe connection intact??

Marc



Dave G. wrote:
> If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list and made them into a list 
> for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
> Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
>
> Spridget Engine removal...
>
> 1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
> 2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
> 3.   disconnect and remove Battery
> 4.   disconnect ground strap
> 5.   drain coolant
> 6.   drain engine oil
> 7.   drain transmission oil
> 8.   remove oil filter
> 9.   disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
> 10. remove radiator
> 11. disconnect carburettors *with* manifold
> 12. disconnect exhaust manifold
> 13. remove gearshift lever
> 14. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
> 15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
> 16. disconnect clutch hydraulics
> 17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
> 18. take up slack in chains
> 19. lift engine ~3/4"
> 20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
> 21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
> 22. unbolt motor mounts
> 23. finesse engine out...  
>
> Optional items to do while it's out
>
> a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
> b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
> c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
> d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission
>
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 21 12:33:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:33:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805211133x346c4e87p1df99db2341cf4a5@mail.gmail.com>

A great list which will go in my "keeper" file. Having done this several
times without benefit of this sort of input I can now see a number of things
I wasn't doing that will make the job MUCH easier next time!!

You also wrote:
"assembly is the reverse of above procedure"

And THAT is where I usually get into trouble!!   ;-)  That phrase fits right
in there with the words "intuitive" and "obvious".  For someone else,
maybe....

Cheers!!
Jim
Only 12 days to get your "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks at
the $50 price!!  Only 4 weeks before the big event!!  Don't miss it!

On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list and
> made them into a list
> for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
> Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
>
> Spridget Engine removal...
>
> 1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
> 2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
> 3.   disconnect and remove Battery
> 4.   disconnect ground strap
> 5.   drain coolant
> 6.   drain engine oil
> 7.   drain transmission oil
> 8.   remove oil filter
> 9.   disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
> 10. remove radiator
> 11. disconnect carburettors *with* manifold
> 12. disconnect exhaust manifold
> 13. remove gearshift lever
> 14. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
> 15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
> 16. disconnect clutch hydraulics
> 17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
> 18. take up slack in chains
> 19. lift engine ~3/4"
> 20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
> 21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
> 22. unbolt motor mounts
> 23. finesse engine out...
>
> Optional items to do while it's out
>
> a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
> b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
> c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
> d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission
>
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 21 12:43:26 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 13:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080521134219.0361f4d0@nosimport.com>

I'd remove the battery first, or at least cover it.
Sucks to drop the bonnet on it.
         Peter C.
=====================
At 12:10 PM 5/21/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the 
>list and made them into a list
>for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
>Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
>
>Spridget Engine removal...
>
>1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
>2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
>3.   disconnect and remove Battery

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Wed May 21 12:47:25 2008
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:47:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ribbed rubber for MkI doors
In-Reply-To: <64EF23A3-32BB-4433-8E4F-E4A1D6687E86@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <999706.90431.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Phil - I used black ribbed carpet saver/stair cover I found at the local home improvement store.  It was so very close to the original.  This was a few years ago, though, but it was commonly used back then and probably now, too.  Doug    ....o~'o  

Phil Nase <bugi1960 at gmail.com> wrote:  Can anyone give me an online source for the Bugeye interior door 
rubber that's close to the correct one.

I've looked many times locally and can find none. I need some in black.

thanks.

Phil Nase
bugi1960 at gmail.com
You are subscribed as doug_altman at yahoo.com

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From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 21 13:03:47 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:03:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805211133x346c4e87p1df99db2341cf4a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0805211133x346c4e87p1df99db2341cf4a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48347213.5010303@smarc.net>

 >>You also wrote:
 >> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"

yep, I have always found that phrase funny, thats  why I put it there...

Marc



Jim Johnson wrote:
> A great list which will go in my "keeper" file. Having done this several
> times without benefit of this sort of input I can now see a number of things
> I wasn't doing that will make the job MUCH easier next time!!
>
> You also wrote:
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"
>
> And THAT is where I usually get into trouble!!   ;-)  That phrase fits right
> in there with the words "intuitive" and "obvious".  For someone else,
> maybe....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> Only 12 days to get your "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks at
> the $50 price!!  Only 4 weeks before the big event!!  Don't miss it!
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 21 13:11:54 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:11:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22><4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com><43840a7e0805211133x346c4e87p1df99db2341cf4a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48347213.5010303@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <02a501c8bb76$88a81130$6401a8c0@Larry>

You didn't mention what to do with all the leftover hardware after 
reassembly.


LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget engine removal


>>You also wrote:
 >> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"

yep, I have always found that phrase funny, thats  why I put it there...

Marc



Jim Johnson wrote:
> A great list which will go in my "keeper" file. Having done this several
> times without benefit of this sort of input I can now see a number of 
> things
> I wasn't doing that will make the job MUCH easier next time!!
>
> You also wrote:
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure"
>
> And THAT is where I usually get into trouble!!   ;-)  That phrase fits 
> right
> in there with the words "intuitive" and "obvious".  For someone else,
> maybe....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> Only 12 days to get your "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks at
> the $50 price!!  Only 4 weeks before the big event!!  Don't miss it!
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
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From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 21 13:13:56 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:13:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <02a501c8bb76$88a81130$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22><4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com><43840a7e0805211133x346c4e87p1df99db2341cf4a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<48347213.5010303@smarc.net> <02a501c8bb76$88a81130$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <48347474.8080102@smarc.net>

Save it up, eventually you can build another car...

Marc



Larry Daniels wrote:
> You didn't mention what to do with all the leftover hardware after 
> reassembly.
>
>
> LAD

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed May 21 13:20:36 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:20:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <CEA86E0A4DD948A4B9F77ADC26B61C95@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Disconnect the oil pressure line from the block.


> If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list 
> and made them into a list
> for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
> Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed May 21 13:36:15 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:36:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <003001c8bb79$efaa2000$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Dave,
Instead of lifting by the rocker cover studs, which subjects them to
bending in a direction for which they weren't intended, I've had good
success with using a nylon strap (a motorcycle tie-down strap,
actually), tied around the rocker shaft, forward & aft, as a sling.
This applies lift on parts which are much better able to withstand it,
in the direction from which these parts handle lots of force every time
the engine is running.  Also, the nylon webbing is extremely gentle with
the springs, between rocker arms, and won't damage a thing.

Also, I made up an adapter, for mounting the engine on the stand, which
bolts into the two holes for the rear generator/alternator mounting
bracket.  This way, if you need to remove the rear plate from the
engine; you have free access to it, and can strip the engine to the bare
block without needing to re-mount it on the stand.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:10 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget engine removal

If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list
and made them into a list 
for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??

Spridget Engine removal...

1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
3.   disconnect and remove Battery
4.   disconnect ground strap
5.   drain coolant
6.   drain engine oil
7.   drain transmission oil
8.   remove oil filter
9.   disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
10. remove radiator
11. disconnect carburettors *with* manifold
12. disconnect exhaust manifold
13. remove gearshift lever
14. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
16. disconnect clutch hydraulics
17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
18. take up slack in chains
19. lift engine ~3/4"
20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
22. unbolt motor mounts
23. finesse engine out...  

Optional items to do while it's out

a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission

"assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May 21 13:25:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 15:25:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
In-Reply-To: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48347728.40601@comcast.net>

dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:
> OK guys--What i s your opinion of this new LBC?  
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7381078.stm
>
>   
I think this is the car Buster and I saw in person at one of the auto 
museums when we were there last year.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Wed May 21 13:35:36 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:35:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
References: <003001c8bb79$efaa2000$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c8bb79$d83de0f0$6401a8c0@Music>

When I use the rocker cover studs I leave the valve cover on. That takes 
care of any side forces you incounter. Make the hole in your lifting plate 
the size of the valve cover nut and just take the big washer off and use the 
nut through the plate snugged down.



> Dave,
> Instead of lifting by the rocker cover studs, which subjects them to
> bending in a direction for which they weren't intended, I've had good
> success with using a nylon strap (a motorcycle tie-down strap,
> actually), tied around the rocker shaft, forward & aft, as a sling.
> This applies lift on parts which are much better able to withstand it,
> in the direction from which these parts handle lots of force every time
> the engine is running.  Also, the nylon webbing is extremely gentle with
> the springs, between rocker arms, and won't damage a thing.
>
> Also, I made up an adapter, for mounting the engine on the stand, which
> bolts into the two holes for the rear generator/alternator mounting
> bracket.  This way, if you need to remove the rear plate from the
> engine; you have free access to it, and can strip the engine to the bare
> block without needing to re-mount it on the stand.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed May 21 13:46:42 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
References: <003001c8bb79$efaa2000$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<001c01c8bb79$d83de0f0$6401a8c0@Music>
Message-ID: <8B47A41301244DD1A7AD064F556F127D@NilesAD.von.gov>

> When I use the rocker cover studs I leave the valve cover on. That takes
> care of any side forces you incounter. Make the hole in your lifting plate
> the size of the valve cover nut and just take the big washer off and use 
> the
> nut through the plate snugged down.

I kinda doubt that my original pressed-tin valve cover would have any effect 
on the side-loading of the studs whatsoever. Personally, I use a nice long 
3"-wide nylon strap from a tie-down. The hook goes to the hook of the crane, 
the strap then goes around the bellhousing, back through the crane hook, 
around the harmonic balancer, then I tie a loop in the end and attach that 
to the cran hook, too. Makes a nice big figure-8. Lifts everything nice and 
gently. It also allows me to simply tilt the engine and trans package to any 
angle I want and it stays at that angle. No turning cranks for ten minutes, 
just tip it to the desired angle. I have done my last four or five engine 
jobs on Spridgets this way and it works quite well. No, the strap does not 
ravel the moment it gets nicked.
David Lieb 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed May 21 13:54:18 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <003001c8bb79$efaa2000$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
	<003001c8bb79$efaa2000$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080521144924.03658a48@nosimport.com>

Along Bud's lines, I've used 2 tiedown straps several times with 
excellent results. One each placed between the front and rear plates 
and the block, with the ratchet available for proper tilting either 
front or back by shortening or lengthening the strap. It was original 
born of necessity, and is now SOP.
         Peter C.
==
At 02:36 PM 5/21/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>Dave,
>Instead of lifting by the rocker cover studs, which subjects them to
>bending in a direction for which they weren't intended, I've had good
>success with using a nylon strap (a motorcycle tie-down strap,
>actually), tied around the rocker shaft, forward & aft, as a sling.
>SNIP
>Bud Osbourne

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed May 21 13:54:22 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 14:54:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Flat Car
References: <051720081315.14714.482EDA5F0002C9270000397A2214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<48347728.40601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <02bc01c8bb7c$7768b9f0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: <dlancer7676 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flat Car


dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:
> OK guys--What i s your opinion of this new LBC?
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7381078.stm
>
>
I think this is the car Buster and I saw in person at one of the auto
museums when we were there last year.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________

Can you imagine what the back of your head will look like after the first 
time some idiot behind you in his SUV decides to gawk at the scenery instead 
of you?

Ain't gonna be pretty.

LAD 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed May 21 14:07:03 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:07:03 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
Message-ID: <002d01c8bb7e$3d5f7a80$0c01a8c0@MAIN>

A good list.

Worth bearing in mind why the engine is being removed as it may not be
necessary to drain oils
I only drain the engine or gearbox oil if I am intending stripping them
down. I certainly wouldn't for a clutch replacement job. But I DO leave the
drive shaft in the back ogf the gearbox so the oil doesn't drain out!
(actualy I have a spare front yolk that I put in there in place of the drive
shaft, its less cumbersome)

I have drilled 3/16" pilot holes through the hinges into the hinge brackets.
When refitting the bonnet I then use a twist drill through the holes to
align back to the original position. Very quick and easy one done.

I usually remove the dizzy cap and plug leads as they are easily damaged
when lifting the engine.

If the carbs are disconnected as an assembly, they can be swung over to one
side so there is no need to disconnect the throttle or choke cables.

I do have a head steady to remove, though not all would have one of those.

Most would have a temperature sensor to disconnect. Usually one of the
capilliary tube ones so it needs very careful handling!

I have welded two bolts to secure the radiator so that I don't have to
grapple around through slots in the radiator grill any more. The radiator
and cowl is only held by these two and once the nuts are removed the whole
assembly lifts out complete with the cowl and pipes.

I lift with a length of welded link chain looped under the crank pulley at
the front and held on the rear most exhaust manifold stud with a large
washer and a nut the back.
The length of chain is easily adjustable and the angle can be altered as the
engine is lifted without the need for any fancy "levelling bar" device.

I put a small wheeled "dolly" under the rear of the gearbox to help it move
forward as I lift the unit out

Working alone, it takes me 1 hour 15 minutes from opening the bonnet to
finishing with the engine and transmission on the floor.
Putting it back usually takes a little longer, about 1hour 40

Guy

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From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 21 13:58:16 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 12:58:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>,
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48341C68.19069.11DF1C8@dmg.bossig.com>

My Thanks to all who've contributed suggestions for the sequence...
I'm out of the house at the moment so I'll consolidate the suggestions and 
submit a revised sequence this evening (PST).


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed May 21 15:42:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:42:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <CEA86E0A4DD948A4B9F77ADC26B61C95@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
	<CEA86E0A4DD948A4B9F77ADC26B61C95@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805211442mdd53b30x59a12f6d58223027@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, Glen.  I missed that one.  Also the Water temperature sending unit!
And I have never taken the carbs and manifold or the exhaust manifold off
until the engine is out of the car.

On 5/21/08, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
> Disconnect the oil pressure line from the block.
>
>
>
> > If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list
> > and made them into a list
> > for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
> > Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Wed May 21 19:33:46 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:33:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <4833F510.26907.843EAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
	<8608247.1211373423561.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22>
Message-ID: <4.1.20080521212951.00b49eb8@mail.bellsouth.net>

Step 9. Leave the drive shaft attached to the diff. That way it will pull
out of the transmission rather than follow it out the tunnel. Unbolt it
before re-installation so you can attach it to the transmission once it is
in the tunnel and then bolt it to the diff last.
Step 17. Don't like to use the rocker bolts. Use someplace stronger.




At 10:10 AM 5/21/2008 -0700, Dave G. wrote:
>If anybody is interested... I've taken all suggestions sent to the list and 
>made them into a list 
>for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
>Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
>
>Spridget Engine removal...
>
>1.   (Optional) Scribe around bonnet hinges
>2.   (Optional) remove bonnet
>3.   disconnect and remove Battery
>4.   disconnect ground strap
>5.   drain coolant
>6.   drain engine oil
>7.   drain transmission oil
>8.   remove oil filter
>9.   disconnect drive shaft (from rear??)
>10. remove radiator
>11. disconnect carburettors *with* manifold
>12. disconnect exhaust manifold
>13. remove gearshift lever
>14. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
>15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
>16. disconnect clutch hydraulics
>17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
>18. take up slack in chains
>19. lift engine ~3/4"
>20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
>21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
>22. unbolt motor mounts
>23. finesse engine out...  
>
>Optional items to do while it's out
>
>a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
>b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
>c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing)
>d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission
>
>"assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
>_______________________________________________

Bob Spruck
MGMaven
Sharpsburg, GA
67 Midget Vintage Racer
72 Midget Street and Show
6 parts/project cars

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 21 19:45:55 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 18:45:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
Message-ID: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>

Here's the "final" list which includes nearly all the suggestions.
I only omitted some folks favorite methods of doing various items.
Everybody, feel free to add you own little pointers that ease the job - but let me have a 
copy...... I've got this job coming up on my beast.

ED... do you want to put this on the 'JustBrits' site??

                     Spridget Engine removal...
a) Items marked * are not really necessary but might save having to replace
    them after you've busted them

b) Items marked ** are optional  

1.   (Optional - access) Scribe around bonnet hinges*
2.   (Optional - access) remove bonnet*  - best done with two people
3.   disconnect and remove Battery - Safety First!
4.   disconnect ground strap - often forgotten!
5.   drain coolant
6.   drain engine oil**
7.   drain transmission oil
8.   disconnect drive (prop) shaft (from rear??)
   Suggestion: Leave the drive shaft attached to the diff. That way it will
        pull out of the transmission rather than follow it out the tunnel. 
        Unbolt it from the differential before re-installation so you can
        attach it to the transmission once it is in the tunnel and then
        bolt it to the diff last.
9.   remove radiator
10. disconnect oil pressure line
11. disconnect water temperature sending unit.
12. remove generator/alternator*
13. remove the dizzy cap and plug leads*
14. disconnect carburettors with manifold
15. disconnect exhaust manifold
16. remove gearshift lever
17. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
18. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
19. disconnect clutch slave cylinder from bell housing.
20. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
     or use wide lift straps around engine.
21. take up slack.
22. lift engine about 3/4"
23. disconnect driver side engine mount bracket from rubber pad.
24. disconnect passenger side engine mount from chassis.
25. unbolt motor mounts
26. finesse engine out...

Optional items while it's out

a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing) - if needed
d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission - if needed

"assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 

Make sure that you still have all the tools you started with

Lastly, save any bits left over...  they just might come in handy when you notice something 
"ain't quite right"  ;-))


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May 21 20:05:58 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:05:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     EXCELLENT...

     now how about one for removing JUST the engine?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I'm here - with a gift!" said Tom presently.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed May 21 20:08:15 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:08:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <20080522020814.WQNP8854.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Well, if anyone is bored the next couple weeks and wants to help test this
I'll make a nice step by step for the web :)

Great list though, it will be hung in the garage!

Just nervous, the only time I pulled a motor was at Flounder's last
November.  Mine was already out so it needs to go back in.

I'm fuzzy on the driveshaft part of the installation-and yeah I should
re-read the manuals, but is it better to remove it from the diff and feed it
through or ?

Chris 

66 MKIII
Brookfield, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:46 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..

Here's the "final" list which includes nearly all the suggestions.
I only omitted some folks favorite methods of doing various items.
Everybody, feel free to add you own little pointers that ease the job - but
let me have a 
copy...... I've got this job coming up on my beast.

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed May 21 21:17:45 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:17:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
	<545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>

<<now how about one for removing JUST the engine>>

Why would ANYBODY even want to, Bill??

YOU want to stick YOUR hand into the bellhousing to turn mainshaft with motor swing in the air??  Glutton for serious punishment I guess.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May 21 20:23:51 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:23:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
In-Reply-To: <4572802.1211376799660.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <4572802.1211376799660.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4834D937.20800@comcast.net>

*http://tinyurl.com/6l8qqy

Here is a post of some of the Sprites at Carlilse, more on the following 
pages. The white sprite on the bottom of the page is my 58 with the 
black 1958 NJ tag.
The 50th Sprite meet was....well it was WET! My Sprite did dry out on 
the drive home today.
But we had fun. Met some old friends, made some new ones, and matched 
faces to list members. I heard we had 120 Sprites, mostly Bugeyes.
John Sprinzel was there as was Gerry Coker, both signed my 59 along with 
a noted Play Boy Bunny who was thrilled to sign her name to a car for 
the first time ever.
If you must know who it is, she was a bunny in London , signed my car 
with her name followed by PBB :)
For the rest of the story, come to Missouri.
PS, she owned a Dino.
*

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 21 20:43:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:43:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] midget engine removal
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080521134219.0361f4d0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <62027.44039.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Slotting the brackets that the engine mounts bolt to
helps a whole lot as well.

--- Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> I'd remove the battery first, or at least cover it.
> Sucks to drop the bonnet on it.
>          Peter C.
> =====================
> At 12:10 PM 5/21/2008, Dave G. wrote:
> >If anybody is interested... I've taken all
> suggestions sent to the 
> >list and made them into a list
> >for Marc (and whoever else needs them).
> >Any omissions, errors, corrections needed??
> >
> >Spridget Engine removal...

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 21 20:48:50 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 19:48:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Good stuff
Message-ID: <351287.75026.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This one's fair game to post - the first interview
with a punk rock guitarist I've read that specifically
mentions a Sprite:

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/2008/05/still_marks_the_spot_xs_billy_zoom.php

Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed May 21 20:50:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:50:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>
	<003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <013601c8bbb6$9538d1b0$0201a8c0@midget>

> Why would ANYBODY even want to, Bill??
>
> YOU want to stick YOUR hand into the bellhousing to turn mainshaft with 
> motor swing in the air??  Glutton for serious punishment I guess.

Well, when I had to replace a lousy throwout bushing because the silly 
carbon face had come off, I was only too happy to separate the engine from 
the trans and simply replace the part that needed replaced without having to 
fool with the shifter, the driveshaft, the trans mounts, the clutch 
hydraulics, etc. No big deal.
David Lieb 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May 21 20:59:41 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:59:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <013601c8bbb6$9538d1b0$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>
	<003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<013601c8bbb6$9538d1b0$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <4834E19D.3010309@comcast.net>

>> YOU want to stick YOUR hand into the bellhousing to turn mainshaft with 
>> motor swing in the air??  Glutton for serious punishment I guess.
>>     
> I pull just the engine all the time.
>   
Why would I pull the tranny if I was doing a simple engine rebuild or 
clutch replacement?
BTW, if you have a 5 speed, you learn to pull ONLY the engine because 
it's a whole lot less headache then pulling both as 1 unit.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 21 22:31:43 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 00:31:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4834F72F.8090708@smarc.net>

May be a good idea to make a match mark on the drive shaft and diff 
flange. Also, if you jack the rear of the vehicle, block the front 
wheels...

Marc



Dave G. wrote:
> Here's the "final" list which includes nearly all the suggestions.
> I only omitted some folks favorite methods of doing various items.
> Everybody, feel free to add you own little pointers that ease the job - but let me have a 
> copy...... I've got this job coming up on my beast.
>
> ED... do you want to put this on the 'JustBrits' site??
>
>                      Spridget Engine removal...
> a) Items marked * are not really necessary but might save having to replace
>     them after you've busted them
>
> b) Items marked ** are optional  
>
> 1.   (Optional - access) Scribe around bonnet hinges*
> 2.   (Optional - access) remove bonnet*  - best done with two people
> 3.   disconnect and remove Battery - Safety First!
> 4.   disconnect ground strap - often forgotten!
> 5.   drain coolant
> 6.   drain engine oil**
> 7.   drain transmission oil
> 8.   disconnect drive (prop) shaft (from rear??)
>    Suggestion: Leave the drive shaft attached to the diff. That way it will
>         pull out of the transmission rather than follow it out the tunnel. 
>         Unbolt it from the differential before re-installation so you can
>         attach it to the transmission once it is in the tunnel and then
>         bolt it to the diff last.
> 9.   remove radiator
> 10. disconnect oil pressure line
> 11. disconnect water temperature sending unit.
> 12. remove generator/alternator*
> 13. remove the dizzy cap and plug leads*
> 14. disconnect carburettors with manifold
> 15. disconnect exhaust manifold
> 16. remove gearshift lever
> 17. jack up car and unbolt transmission mounts
> 18. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
> 19. disconnect clutch slave cylinder from bell housing.
> 20. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains to rocker cover studs
>      or use wide lift straps around engine.
> 21. take up slack.
> 22. lift engine about 3/4"
> 23. disconnect driver side engine mount bracket from rubber pad.
> 24. disconnect passenger side engine mount from chassis.
> 25. unbolt motor mounts
> 26. finesse engine out...
>
> Optional items while it's out
>
> a)  put engine on stand, flip it over, replace pan gasket and seals
> b)  replace side cover gaskets - if fitted
> c)  install new clutch kit (disk, plate, bearing) - if needed
> d)  bolt on rebuilt transmission - if needed
>
> "assembly is the reverse of above procedure" 
>
> Make sure that you still have all the tools you started with
>
> Lastly, save any bits left over...  they just might come in handy when you notice something 
> "ain't quite right"  ;-))

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed May 21 22:44:51 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:44:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <4834F72F.8090708@smarc.net>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4834F72F.8090708@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <483497D3.20506.3000A58@dmg.bossig.com>

BTW... my personal piece of paranioa...
I photograph EVERYTHING - before, during and after removing anything...
At my age, I tend to forget what came off in what order...

My nightmare scenario goes... "I wonder where that goes???"


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed May 21 22:59:23 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 21:59:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
	<545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>
	<003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>

Hello ,

       The first time i pulled the engine it was for an engine
       rebuild. the tranny was fine and didn't need to come out, so
       why bother?.. i didn't know any better back then maybe?...

       as to lining up the engine to the input shaft, i don't remember
       that there was anything to it.. that is i recall no frustration
       at everything not just going back together.. i was lucky?..

       the second time was to change to a 5 speed so it all came out
       as a unit.......

       as to re-instlling the drive shaft...

       i do it from the back and when the yoke gets close to the tranny
       i reach down thru the hole for the shifter, pick up the yoke
       and put it on the tranny.. crawl back under the car a push it
       on the rest of the way.. .. is there more space to do this with
       the datsun tranny or are my hands just small enough?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu May 22 05:35:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 06:35:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget>

>       i do it from the back and when the yoke gets close to the tranny
>       i reach down thru the hole for the shifter, pick up the yoke
>       and put it on the tranny.. crawl back under the car a push it
>       on the rest of the way.. .. is there more space to do this with
>       the datsun tranny or are my hands just small enough?

There is a LOT more room for this with the Datsun tranny.
A couple of turns of masking tape around the front u-joint will keep the 
nose of the driveshaft high enough to start in the back of the trans. The 
tape comes off in the first couple miles of driving the car.

As to marking the diff flange, why bother? It is NOT as if they were 
balanced together. The driveshaft is balanced to itself and so is the 
pinion. What do you do if you replace the diff? The holes in the flange are 
not square, so they will only line up in 2 of the 4 possible positions; just 
make sure that all four holes are lined up before you put the first bolt in.
David Lieb 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu May 22 06:28:14 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 12:28:14 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Good stuff
In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384BBA1738@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F38DF585CC8F3A75A5D7628B8C60@phx.gbl>

Wow!  Gene Vincent and Etta James!  So, I probably do own some of BZ's 
music.

Some day I'll check out X. :)
( I do have some Ramones and the Pistols, etc. )

So "X-ray" the guitar?  Punny.

Unfortunately, the link from the 'Sprite' goes to wikipedia instead of to 
his actual car. :(

Interesting article.

RD

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave

This one's fair game to post - the first interview
with a punk rock guitarist I've read that specifically
mentions a Sprite:

http://www.readexpress.com/read_freeride/2008/05/still_marks_the_spot_xs
_billy_zoom.php

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 22 08:41:06 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 09:41:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805220741i4b7d8349i3d5b57ee11941707@mail.gmail.com>

Well, the oil leak problem is somewhat solved now.  As Frank suspected, it
appears to have been due to too much crankcase pressure. I pulled the hose
from the cannister off of the PCV valve and the leak abruptly stopped!

Now I have to figure out how to balance the pressure between the suction
from my Titan manifold and HIF44 and the crankcase pressure. I tried just
connecting the hose from the cannister on the timing cover directly to the
manifold with no PCV.  Wow!  I think it sucked about a pint of oil through
the system and I managed to fog off all the mosquitoes in the neighborhood!

It runs smoke free with the vent hose pulled loose from the PCV valve on the
manifold. When set up this way, I put my hand over the oil filler and there
is pretty neutral pressure. Trouble is, the vent hose does put out a little
oil smoke/mist into the engine compartment.

I talked with Frank a little last night trying to figure this out, but I am
still confused.  My valve cover doesn't have a vent tube on it. If it did,
I'm not sure I know what to connect where and what do I do with the vent
hose? Even though its not very much oil smoke, I can't let it continue to
blow it around inside ofthe engine compartment.

Any ideas on how to rig this up gratefully accepted!  I only have a few
weeks let before Lake of the Ozarks so it needs to get fixed quick so I can
tackle other issues.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu May 22 09:25:39 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:25:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <000701c8bbd8$f9f6cbd0$0c01a8c0@MAIN>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<000701c8bbd8$f9f6cbd0$0c01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <48352E03.3826.10BB34@dmg.bossig.com>

Guy,

It's still number 4 on the list... 

USA English = ground
UK English = earth

just like 'hood' vis-a-vis 'bonnet'
  

;-))

On 22 May 2008 at 7:56, Guy Weller wrote:

>> Still omitted to include removal of the earth strap.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu May 22 09:30:34 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:30:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805220741i4b7d8349i3d5b57ee11941707@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805220741i4b7d8349i3d5b57ee11941707@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48352F2A.25907.1538FB@dmg.bossig.com>

Jim,

This is what the previous owner of my beast has done...

tinyurl is:
http://tinyurl.com/3o3uo4

full url is:
http://kenandbonnie.smugmug.com/gallery/2197057/1#114284372_mdhHX
-A-LB

On 22 May 2008 at 9:41, Jim Johnson wrote:

>> My valve cover doesn't have a vent tube on it. If it did,
>> I'm not sure I know what to connect where and what do I do with the
>> vent hose?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Thu May 22 12:06:35 2008
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carpet Template
Message-ID: <742489.21358.qm@web56002.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

   Does anyone know if there is a place to find a trunk or boot carpent
   template?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu May 22 12:10:37 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 13:10:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Rebarth exhaust
Message-ID: <046a01c8bc37$2338d750$6401a8c0@Larry>

This is a reply Mike Lempert sent to those who asked about his "Rebarth"
exhaust system.



----- Original Message -----
From: Lempert Wheels Sales


Gentlemen:  I want to thank you for your interest in my Rebarth exhaust
project. Also please forgive this impersonal group reply; I have had a surge
of emails which happens every now and then when one of my products gets
discussed on a car list ot forum.

My Rebarth project started a few years ago. Since then I have collected a
number of original units for various cars and done examinations and taken
measurements.  I have got to the point where I'm ready to start producing -
with a prototype and testing to precede sales.  My pace was dramatically
slowed when I introduced my steering wheels. My wheel business took off nearly
immediately and has since dominated my time.

I do appreciate receiving these emails and they are important indicators of
potential interest, not to mention the inspirational value.  I hope to get
back on track soon, and will let you know when something is available - or at
least when I have a reliable schedule for introduction.  My focus has been on
the Big Healey first, but the Sprite system is quite a bit more simple to
produce, so I will try to fit that in sooner.  The Porsche 356 system will be
the more complex, especially from a fit perspective, so that is likely to
follow the other introductions.  MGA, BTW, will be number three or four.

From tinydog at snet.net  Thu May 22 12:50:47 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:50:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Carpet Template
In-Reply-To: <742489.21358.qm@web56002.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <052220081850.13040.4835C086000E8FFC000032F022216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

No, but one can be made very easily with any type of paper, even brown paper bags from your grocer, unless you use only plastic.



 -------------- Original message from John Colclasure <bilbostuufff at yahoo.com>: --------------


>    Does anyone know if there is a place to find a trunk or boot carpent
>    template?   

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu May 22 18:53:05 2008
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:53:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] To Post to List - My eMail
Message-ID: <37dc82d40805221753o6ce3283bo909e5ead5b7115ad@mail.gmail.com>

KHargreaves2 at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 22 20:51:00 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 21:51:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Time is running out for Lake of the Ozarks Hotel!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805221951w19dc2c38vd1227cb13859154f@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Tomorrow, Friday June 23rd is the last day to get into the headquarters
hotel at the special rate. From Saturday on the price goes up almost
double!!  This is a VERY popular area during June and hotel rooms are VERY
hard to find on short notice.  You can get a room reserved by calling the
hotel at 573.348.4731.  Be sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets"
group.

The deadline for cheap registration for the big event at Lake of the Ozarks
is June 1st!!  Registration is $50 but starting on June 2nd, the rate goes
up to $75!  You can register online using PayPal or using your credit card.
Go to the website at http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org and click on
"Registration" on the upper right part of the menu bar. Just follow the
directions. You don't have to have PayPal to register this way.  If you'd
rather mail your registration, make sure it is postmarked by June 1st!
Those postmarked June 2nd or later will need to pay $75.

A number of folks are bringing spare Spridget parts with them to sell in the
informal vendors area at the hotel. If you've got some spares laying around,
why not bring them along? You might just use them to cover some of your
travel costs!

The Special Limited Edition Cloisonne and Gold Plate Grill Badges are
selling briskly. We've already sold about half of the ones we have so if you
want one, go quickly to the website. You can either download and print the
order form and mail in with your $36 check, or you can send $36 to our
PayPal account at "SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com"  You don't even need a PayPal
account to do this.

This promises to be a great time with lots of Spridgets and Spridget people.
You're not going to want to miss it!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 22 20:53:47 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 21:53:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lake of the Ozarks Hotel!! Phone number corrected!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805221953r64b20d02le95706dc2ee7d539@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Tomorrow, Friday June 23rd is the last day to get into the headquarters
hotel at the special rate. From Saturday on the price goes up almost
double!!  This is a VERY popular area during June and hotel rooms are VERY
hard to find on short notice.  You can get a room reserved by calling the
hotel at 800.348.4731.  Be sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets"
group.

The deadline for cheap registration for the big event at Lake of the Ozarks
is June 1st!!  Registration is $50 but starting on June 2nd, the rate goes
up to $75!  You can register online using PayPal or using your credit card.
Go to the website at http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org and click on
"Registration" on the upper right part of the menu bar. Just follow the
directions. You don't have to have PayPal to register this way.  If you'd
rather mail your registration, make sure it is postmarked by June 1st!
Those postmarked June 2nd or later will need to pay $75.

A number of folks are bringing spare Spridget parts with them to sell in the
informal vendors area at the hotel. If you've got some spares laying around,
why not bring them along? You might just use them to cover some of your
travel costs!

The Special Limited Edition Cloisonne and Gold Plate Grill Badges are
selling briskly. We've already sold about half of the ones we have so if you
want one, go quickly to the website. You can either download and print the
order form and mail in with your $36 check, or you can send $36 to our
PayPal account at "SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com"  You don't even need a PayPal
account to do this.

This promises to be a great time with lots of Spridgets and Spridget people.
You're not going to want to miss it!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 22 22:47:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 23:47:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Once more - Last call for hotel rates at Lake of the
	Ozarks!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805222147i505d4f64h9a662fce1c055cd1@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

It's been one of those days....   Sorry to bomb the list with this but I
think I finally have it correct on the third try...

*****************************************************

Tomorrow, Friday May 23rd is the last day to get into the headquarters hotel
at the special rate. From Saturday on the price goes up almost double!!
This is a VERY popular area during June and hotel rooms are VERY hard to
find on short notice.  You can get a room reserved by calling the hotel at
800.348.4731.  Be sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets" group.

The deadline for cheap registration for the big event at Lake of the Ozarks
is June 1st!!  Registration is $50 but starting on June 2nd, the rate goes
up to $75!  You can register online using PayPal or using your credit card.
Go to the website at
http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org<http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/>and
click on "Registration" on the upper right part of the menu bar. Just
follow the directions. You don't have to have PayPal to register this way.
If you'd rather mail your registration, make sure it is postmarked by June
1st!  Those postmarked June 2nd or later will need to pay $75.

A number of folks are bringing spare Spridget parts with them to sell in the
informal vendors area at the hotel. If you've got some spares laying around,
why not bring them along? You might just use them to cover some of your
travel costs!

The Special Limited Edition Cloisonne and Gold Plate Grill Badges are
selling briskly. We've already sold about half of the ones we have so if you
want one, go quickly to the website. You can either download and print the
order form and mail in with your $36 check, or you can send $36 to our
PayPal account at "SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com"  You don't even need a PayPal
account to do this.

This promises to be a great time with lots of Spridgets and Spridget people.
You're not going to want to miss it!!

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May 23 07:15:25 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:15:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Once more - Last call for hotel rates at Lake of
 theOzarks!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805222147i505d4f64h9a662fce1c055cd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004301c8bcd7$10d45300$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

With great sadness, I've had to cancel my plans (and both rooms I had
reserved) to attend.  I had really been looking forward to the drive out
and back, as well as the event, itself.  My reason for canceling has to
do with current economic conditions, which, right now, are so good that
I've just been buried with work, with no let-up in sight.  As a result,
I've had to alter my travel plans pretty dramatically, for the month of
June.

So, two non-smoking, king-size rooms have been returned to the (small)
pool of rooms available for the Golden Jubilee Celebration.  I sure hope
someone will get to enjoy them.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 11:47 PM
To: Spridgets; Midget/Sprite; bugeye
Subject: [Spridgets] Once more - Last call for hotel rates at Lake of
theOzarks!

Spridgeteers,

It's been one of those days....   Sorry to bomb the list with this but I
think I finally have it correct on the third try...

*****************************************************

Tomorrow, Friday May 23rd is the last day to get into the headquarters
hotel
at the special rate. From Saturday on the price goes up almost double!!
This is a VERY popular area during June and hotel rooms are VERY hard to
find on short notice.  You can get a room reserved by calling the hotel
at
800.348.4731.  Be sure to tell them you are with the "Spridgets" group.

The deadline for cheap registration for the big event at Lake of the
Ozarks
is June 1st!!  Registration is $50 but starting on June 2nd, the rate
goes
up to $75!  You can register online using PayPal or using your credit
card.
Go to the website at
http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org<http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/>and
click on "Registration" on the upper right part of the menu bar. Just
follow the directions. You don't have to have PayPal to register this
way.
If you'd rather mail your registration, make sure it is postmarked by
June
1st!  Those postmarked June 2nd or later will need to pay $75.

A number of folks are bringing spare Spridget parts with them to sell in
the
informal vendors area at the hotel. If you've got some spares laying
around,
why not bring them along? You might just use them to cover some of your
travel costs!

The Special Limited Edition Cloisonne and Gold Plate Grill Badges are
selling briskly. We've already sold about half of the ones we have so if
you
want one, go quickly to the website. You can either download and print
the
order form and mail in with your $36 check, or you can send $36 to our
PayPal account at "SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com"  You don't even need a
PayPal
account to do this.

This promises to be a great time with lots of Spridgets and Spridget
people.
You're not going to want to miss it!!

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri May 23 07:29:02 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 09:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 2 more rooms available at Lake of the Ozarks
Message-ID: <004a01c8bcd8$f77bc260$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Due to business commitments, I've had to cancel both rooms I had
reserved, for the Jubilee, at Inn at Grand Glaize.  Sure hope some of
you are able to snap them up, today.

For any Spridgeteers passing through the Pittsburgh, PA/Washington, PA,
via US route 40, I-70 or I-79: if you get in a (mechanical) bind, I'm
available to help.  I've got a single axle, tilt-bed trailer, plus a
well equipped home workshop.  I've probably got some good, used parts
which could get you back on the road, too.

If you are stopping around Washington, PA, for a meal or an overnight
stop, I'll be happy to buy you a beer, or drink a cup of coffee with
you.

I'll post contact information during the week before "travel week" for
the event.

Bud Osbourne

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May 23 10:40:11 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:40:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
	<014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget>
Message-ID: <4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net>

I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the list, the 
reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop manual 
to become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted 
me to start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the 
flange" in section G.2  
http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf

IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a 
bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks easily 
visable.

Marc


>
> As to marking the diff flange, why bother? It is NOT as if they were 
> balanced together. The driveshaft is balanced to itself and so is the 
> pinion. What do you do if you replace the diff? The holes in the flange are 
> not square, so they will only line up in 2 of the 4 possible positions; just 
> make sure that all four holes are lined up before you put the first bolt in.
> David Lieb 

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Fri May 23 10:41:10 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:41:10 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
Message-ID: <21435638.1211560870875.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

i was there with my saab race car.   my bugeye developed a coolant leak and i had little time to fix it.

chuck.
-----Original Message-----
>From: Miniac7 at aol.com
>Sent: May 21, 2008 8:44 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
>
>I was there from Saturday morning until 6PM last evening. Seeing as I  needed 
>to get back home by this morning however, I missed going to the  closing 
>banquet.
> 
>I must say it was fantastic reconnecting with all the great  people this past 
>weekend, and meeting others (both on and off the  lists) for the first time. 
>Putting faces to screen names is always a  treat.
> 
>We need to do this more often.
> 
>Howard Collins
>Virginia Beach, VA.
>'60 AH Bugeye
> 
>PS: After hawking Sprite tee shirts in the hotel lobby for a few hours  
>yesterday, I still have some left in all sizes. If anyone is interested. I can  
>email you pictures if you'd like to see what they look  like.
>
>
>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri May 23 10:46:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:46:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
	<014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget> <4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the list, the 
>reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop manual to 
>become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted me to 
>start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the flange" 
>in section G.2  http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf
>
> IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a 
> bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks easily 
> visable.

True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster finding which set of holes 
line up.
Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was the parts in petrol
and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into the transmission, so 
take
it with a grain or two of salt.
David Lieb 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 23 11:21:53 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:21:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F346034CF4458E3E670C3EFB8C10@phx.gbl>

What's the salt for?

----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>

 >I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the list, the
 >reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop manual to
 >become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted me to
 >start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the flange"
 >in section G.2  http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf
 >
 > IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a
 > bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks easily
 > visable.

True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster finding which set of holes
line up.
Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was the parts in petrol
and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into the transmission, so
take
it with a grain or two of salt.
David Lieb

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May 23 11:24:39 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:24:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
	<014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget> <4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net>
	<50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <4836FDD7.2000801@smarc.net>

   I  get  what you're saying; just was pointing out that I got that info
   from  RTFM! I appreciate the correction. Somehow, the most learning is
   instigated by the biggest screw-ups.
   Disclaimer:  I'm  not  a  mechanic,  and I don't play one on T.V. Your
   mileage  may  vary. Consult a physician first. May be subject to local
   regulations. Look both ways...
Marc

True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster finding which set of holes
line up.
Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was the parts in petrol
and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into the transmission, so
take
it with a grain or two of salt.
David Lieb 

I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the list, the
reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop manual to
become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted me to
start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the flange"
in section G.2  http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf

IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a
bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks easily
visable.

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May 23 11:25:31 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:25:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F346034CF4458E3E670C3EFB8C10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F346034CF4458E3E670C3EFB8C10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4836FE0B.1090805@smarc.net>

Marc



Robert Duquette wrote:
> What's the salt for?
>   

Magic incantations to relieve the Lucas Curse.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri May 23 11:27:31 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 12:27:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
References: <BAY112-F346034CF4458E3E670C3EFB8C10@phx.gbl>
	<4836FE0B.1090805@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <05c001c8bcfa$48420030$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
To: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..


Marc



Robert Duquette wrote:
> What's the salt for?
>

Magic incantations to relieve the Lucas Curse.

================

Also comes in handy for stopping the bleeding from the inevitable nicks 
you'll get on your hands. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 23 11:35:25 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:35:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <4836FE0B.1090805@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35EC10007E8E923BDBA28EB8C10@phx.gbl>

I thougt that salt made it worse!?  :)

----Original Message Follows----

Marc

Robert Duquette wrote:
>What's the salt for?
>

Magic incantations to relieve the Lucas Curse.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri May 23 12:20:55 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 11:20:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
Message-ID: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>

 Not entirely Spridget related but it will give me the space to work on 
my Spridget powered Singer Le Mans so partially on topic.  I have put my 
1953 Singer 4AD for sale (after owning it 34 years, it was hard to do) 
and have received a offer from a gentleman in Virginia.  I am in S. 
Calif (see the problem?).

 I live on the web and I see all the scams about garbage checks, checks 
for more than the sale price, etc.   This guy has NOT made any of those 
suggestions yet and he has been actively looking for a Singer for quite 
a few months, so I am fairly sure he is legit but I am still worried.  
We have not even talked on the phone yet, just e-mail and several e-mail 
address at that, all of them anonymous type Yahoo e-mails.

  He wants me to ship the car to him, we have not yet discussed how to 
transfer the money as I am not sure how to safely do it.  I would fully 
understand his concerns if I said, send me the money and after I am 
positive it was a valid check in a few weeks I will ship the car (I 
would walk if I was him).  I have heard where the shipping company 
swapped cars for checks so that its all done at the same time but then 
how do I confirm the check is good ?  I was thinking of having him wire 
the money to my account on the day that the shipper is supposed to pick 
up the car, but that means he has to trust me somewhat (I am 
trustworthy:)  ) as I would have the money prior to the shipper having 
the car.  He does know that I am the past President of the Singer Owners 
Club and the current webmaster for the club so its not like I am a 
anonymous person on the net but he certainly is anonymous to me at this 
time.  Ebay has been suggested where I put the car on ebay with the 
proper buy-it now price and make sure he knows it at the proper time and 
buys it but even that is a unknown.

 So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?

    mike

p.s. I got my license in 1974 and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded 
2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there 
are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri May 23 12:43:01 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:43:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>
References: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805231143v556d9069m1fe1aa61c5d09083@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps there is a list member in the area that you trust enough, that you
could ship the car to, and they could pick up cash for you. There are those
pens for making sure the bills are good at Office Depot.

Brad

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

>  Not entirely Spridget related but it will give me the space to work on
> my Spridget powered Singer Le Mans so partially on topic.  I have put my
> 1953 Singer 4AD for sale (after owning it 34 years, it was hard to do)
> and have received a offer from a gentleman in Virginia.  I am in S.
> Calif (see the problem?).
>
>  I live on the web and I see all the scams about garbage checks, checks
> for more than the sale price, etc.   This guy has NOT made any of those
> suggestions yet and he has been actively looking for a Singer for quite
> a few months, so I am fairly sure he is legit but I am still worried.
> We have not even talked on the phone yet, just e-mail and several e-mail
> address at that, all of them anonymous type Yahoo e-mails.
>
>  He wants me to ship the car to him, we have not yet discussed how to
> transfer the money as I am not sure how to safely do it.  I would fully
> understand his concerns if I said, send me the money and after I am
> positive it was a valid check in a few weeks I will ship the car (I
> would walk if I was him).  I have heard where the shipping company
> swapped cars for checks so that its all done at the same time but then
> how do I confirm the check is good ?  I was thinking of having him wire
> the money to my account on the day that the shipper is supposed to pick
> up the car, but that means he has to trust me somewhat (I am
> trustworthy:)  ) as I would have the money prior to the shipper having
> the car.  He does know that I am the past President of the Singer Owners
> Club and the current webmaster for the club so its not like I am a
> anonymous person on the net but he certainly is anonymous to me at this
> time.  Ebay has been suggested where I put the car on ebay with the
> proper buy-it now price and make sure he knows it at the proper time and
> buys it but even that is a unknown.
>
>  So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?
>
>    mike
>
> p.s. I got my license in 1974 and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded
> 2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there
> are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.
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From bpazur at excel.net  Fri May 23 13:41:57 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:41:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Wheel Info Sought
Message-ID: <006001c8bd0d$29e8b440$afe767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

All -

Can anyone tell me anything about these wheels:

http://tinyurl.com/3vlmcv

I have five of them. They are 5" X 13" with 4" lug hole centers, are made of
an alloy (no rust), and weigh 10 pounds. On the back are the markings 'Made in
England', 'Mag Product', 5JX13' and 'SM'. Any enlightenment would be
appreciated.

Thanks.

Bud

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri May 23 13:23:05 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:23:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <05c001c8bcfa$48420030$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <BAY112-F346034CF4458E3E670C3EFB8C10@phx.gbl>
	<4836FE0B.1090805@smarc.net> <05c001c8bcfa$48420030$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <D4C258C6-9B1C-4C66-B5FF-BFAC2D9856D0@comcast.net>

So that's what you call the "blood sacrifice" these days.  I told my  
sons that a project as large as removing an engine will require a  
blood sacrifice, whether be design or not.

Lester


On May 23, 2008, at 12:27 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
> To: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Robert Duquette wrote:
>> What's the salt for?
>>
>
> Magic incantations to relieve the Lucas Curse.
>
> ================
>
> Also comes in handy for stopping the bleeding from the inevitable  
> nicks
> you'll get on your hands.
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Fri May 23 13:24:57 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 15:24:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin-Healey Sprite Bugeye Trailer
Message-ID: <00a801c8bd0a$b09f6d60$2f01a8c0@dell1>

At Sprite Jubilee 2008, The 50th Anniversary Celebration of the Austin-Healey
Sprite, Dr. Rick Moses, organizer and planner, introduced his Bugeye trailer.
No big fanfare it was quietly placed in the banquet room to be discovered.
This has been a dream of Ricks for the last 15+ years and was made possible by
Jack Merryman of Merryman Modifications. It is all metal from front and rear
sections of a real bugeye body. Access to the weather proof storage area
inside is by the standard bonnet latch at front and the entire body lifts at
the front and is hinged at the rear.  Inside is a chrome diamond plate, water
proof storage box. The towing arm/tongue is removable (as in the pictures) and
it has two drop down adjustable legs to stabilize it when unhooked and the
tongue removed. It also has it's own small 12 volt battery so that the lights
can be operated when in the display mode along with a standard wire loom for
towing.
Pictures can be seen at http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/austin-healey-bugey/
Enjoy

Biff Jones

From franks97 at verizon.net  Fri May 23 14:38:18 2008
From: franks97 at verizon.net (franks97 at verizon.net)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:38:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dog Box Transmission for Racing Sprite
Message-ID: <380-220085523203818551@M2W038.mail2web.com>

Hi Folks,

I'm looking for gears sets or a Dog Box transmission for my 67 vintage
racing sprite. I know Taylor and Jack Knight make both gears sets and
complete boxes. Is there anyone else out there you might recommend?

Thanks!

Dave Franks
67 AH Sprite #82



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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri May 23 15:17:47 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:17:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Performance parts?
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080523161641.03b3a4b8@mailbag.com>

Some of these are applicable to Spridgeteers.  Check under "other"

http://www.toyotalabs.com.au/

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri May 23 17:23:29 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 17:23:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Performance parts?
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080523161641.03b3a4b8@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <007601c8bd2c$16f959b0$6801a8c0@shop>

http://www.toyotalabs.com.au/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=7

you bought the 3-pac, right PPP  ?!?!?!?

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Fri May 23 16:36:19 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:36:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
	<014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget> <4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net>
	<50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
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My wife lined up the yoke with a screwdriver for me and it actually  
did work very well.

Two person job though that way.

Phil Nase


On May 23, 2008, at 12:46 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the  
>> list, the
>> reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop  
>> manual to
>> become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted  
>> me to
>> start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the  
>> flange"
>> in section G.2  http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf
>>
>> IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a
>> bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks  
>> easily
>> visable.
>
> True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster finding which set of  
> holes
> line up.
> Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was the parts in  
> petrol
> and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into the  
> transmission, so
> take
> it with a grain or two of salt.
> David Lieb
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri May 23 17:06:41 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:06:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <9069D352-C904-4BC0-861F-CD25D4D8C6C7@gmail.com>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com>
	<545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com>
	<003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop>
	<39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com>
	<014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget> <4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net>
	<50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<9069D352-C904-4BC0-861F-CD25D4D8C6C7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805231606r7c81e2ach76b3951f174caa8d@mail.gmail.com>

Last two times I've done it by myself.  Disconnect the drive shaft from the
diff. Once the end of the tranny is inside the mouth of the tunnel, reach in
through the shifter hole and put the yoke into the back of the tranny. It
won't come out as you slide the lump in the rest of the way.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Phil Nase <bugi1960 at gmail.com> wrote:

> My wife lined up the yoke with a screwdriver for me and it actually
> did work very well.
>
> Two person job though that way.
>
> Phil Nase
>
>
> On May 23, 2008, at 12:46 PM, David Lieb wrote:
>
> >> I would have no problem deferring to the expertise here on the
> >> list, the
> >> reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through the shop
> >> manual to
> >> become familiar with the project prior to diving in (which prompted
> >> me to
> >> start the checklist in the first place), and it says to "Mark the
> >> flange"
> >> in section G.2  http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf
> >>
> >> IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint markers, but I find that a
> >> bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making timing marks
> >> easily
> >> visable.
> >
> > True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster finding which set of
> > holes
> > line up.
> > Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was the parts in
> > petrol
> > and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into the
> > transmission, so
> > take
> > it with a grain or two of salt.
> > David Lieb
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 17:21:26 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:21:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <175560.2115.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike,
   
  You have all kinds of options..............
   
    Cash - My favorite - gold coins

   
  Wire transfer from bank to bank. - - If bank is in the states
   
  Money order.
   
  Western Union
   
  Then there is - not as good
   
  PayPal - Problem - you need to either add 4% or eat it out of the total. Still 4% for no worries may be worth it if the guy seems questionable.
   
  Private check - allow 10-15 days till it clears - I have done this in the past and was never burned - may be just lucky.
   
  Certified check - this was a very good option till recently. To many bad ones pass long enough to loose a car. Then they come after you if you took any of the money. 
   
  Hope this helps,
   
  vigil
   
  

Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
  Not entirely Spridget related but it will give me the space to work on 
my Spridget powered Singer Le Mans so partially on topic. I have put my 
1953 Singer 4AD for sale (after owning it 34 years, it was hard to do) 
and have received a offer from a gentleman in Virginia. I am in S. 
Calif (see the problem?).

I live on the web and I see all the scams about garbage checks, checks 
for more than the sale price, etc. This guy has NOT made any of those 
suggestions yet and he has been actively looking for a Singer for quite 
a few months, so I am fairly sure he is legit but I am still worried. 
We have not even talked on the phone yet, just e-mail and several e-mail 
address at that, all of them anonymous type Yahoo e-mails.

He wants me to ship the car to him, we have not yet discussed how to 
transfer the money as I am not sure how to safely do it. I would fully 
understand his concerns if I said, send me the money and after I am 
positive it was a valid check in a few weeks I will ship the car (I 
would walk if I was him). I have heard where the shipping company 
swapped cars for checks so that its all done at the same time but then 
how do I confirm the check is good ? I was thinking of having him wire 
the money to my account on the day that the shipper is supposed to pick 
up the car, but that means he has to trust me somewhat (I am 
trustworthy:) ) as I would have the money prior to the shipper having 
the car. He does know that I am the past President of the Singer Owners 
Club and the current webmaster for the club so its not like I am a 
anonymous person on the net but he certainly is anonymous to me at this 
time. Ebay has been suggested where I put the car on ebay with the 
proper buy-it now price and make sure he knows it at the proper time and 
buys it but even that is a unknown.

So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?

mike

p.s. I got my license in 1974 and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded 
2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there 
are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.
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From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 17:29:06 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:29:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <191342.35096.qm@web62507.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Mike,
   
  While perhaps not the least expensive method, you could utilize an attorney on either end to serve as an escrow agent. Have them draw up a simple escrow agreement between the buyer, the escrow agent and you. The buyer pays the escrow agent and when the cash is in the escrow account, you ship the car and send the title to the escrow agent. The agent then distributes the cash to you and the title to the buyer.
   
  John

Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
  Not entirely Spridget related but it will give me the space to work on 
my Spridget powered Singer Le Mans so partially on topic. I have put my 
1953 Singer 4AD for sale (after owning it 34 years, it was hard to do) 
and have received a offer from a gentleman in Virginia. I am in S. 
Calif (see the problem?).

I live on the web and I see all the scams about garbage checks, checks 
for more than the sale price, etc. This guy has NOT made any of those 
suggestions yet and he has been actively looking for a Singer for quite 
a few months, so I am fairly sure he is legit but I am still worried. 
We have not even talked on the phone yet, just e-mail and several e-mail 
address at that, all of them anonymous type Yahoo e-mails.

He wants me to ship the car to him, we have not yet discussed how to 
transfer the money as I am not sure how to safely do it. I would fully 
understand his concerns if I said, send me the money and after I am 
positive it was a valid check in a few weeks I will ship the car (I 
would walk if I was him). I have heard where the shipping company 
swapped cars for checks so that its all done at the same time but then 
how do I confirm the check is good ? I was thinking of having him wire 
the money to my account on the day that the shipper is supposed to pick 
up the car, but that means he has to trust me somewhat (I am 
trustworthy:) ) as I would have the money prior to the shipper having 
the car. He does know that I am the past President of the Singer Owners 
Club and the current webmaster for the club so its not like I am a 
anonymous person on the net but he certainly is anonymous to me at this 
time. Ebay has been suggested where I put the car on ebay with the 
proper buy-it now price and make sure he knows it at the proper time and 
buys it but even that is a unknown.

So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?

mike

p.s. I got my license in 1974 and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded 
2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there 
are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 17:34:38 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Performance parts?
In-Reply-To: <007601c8bd2c$16f959b0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <952094.78681.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed,
   
  I thought the Elbow Grease was a little expensive.
   
  Product Information 
For those hard days working on engines, a little Elbow Grease will make the jobs a hell of a lot easier! The non-sticky properties of this Elbow Grease make it pleasant to use, doesn't leave marks on clothing, nor does it smell. 
   
  Price: $25.38 
   
  I have herd good things about Elbow Grease in the past.
   
  LOL
   
  Vigil

Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
  http://www.toyotalabs.com.au/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=7

you bought the 3-pac, right PPP ?!?!?!?
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri May 23 17:38:18 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 19:38:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805231606r7c81e2ach76b3951f174caa8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48346DE3.29830.25C384C@dmg.bossig.com><545475334.20080521190558@pacifier.com><003201c8bbba$682e8710$6801a8c0@shop><39037787.20080521215923@pacifier.com><014201c8bbff$ecd0a350$0201a8c0@midget>
	<4836F36B.7090708@smarc.net><50554F806E534EE6A8254DB8840066E6@NilesAD.von.gov><9069D352-C904-4BC0-861F-CD25D4D8C6C7@gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0805231606r7c81e2ach76b3951f174caa8d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP031511D7DB04DE6FFEEA58B8C10@CEZ.ICE>

I don't remember ever detaching the rear of the drive shaft from the diff.

Of course, I don't remember much. :)

I do remember getting my hand jammed between the gearbox and the side of the
gearshift hole though when the gearbox slid back.  I was alone and was
feeling a bit silly, but I did manage to reach a screwdriver and pry it back
enough.  It could have been a long night. :)

-----Original Message-----

Last two times I've done it by myself.  Disconnect the drive shaft from the
diff. Once the end of the tranny is inside the mouth of the tunnel, reach in
through the shifter hole and put the yoke into the back of the tranny. It
won't come out as you slide the lump in the rest of the way.

Cheers!!
Jim

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 17:40:50 2008
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <48370B07.9030603@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <891387.67422.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

As someone who has burned in a cross-country deal, my advice would be DON'T!&nbsp; But there is a good discussion of possible methods here: http://tinyurl.com/3mq6zd 
if you're feeling lucky.&nbsp; 

Rick

--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Mike Rambour &lt;mikey at b2systems.com&gt; wrote:
From: Mike Rambour &lt;mikey at b2systems.com&gt;
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
To: "Spridgeteers" &lt;spridgets at autox.team.net&gt;
Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 2:20 PM



 So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?

    mike

p.s. I got my license in 1974 and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded 
2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there 
are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.
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From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Fri May 23 21:20:40 2008
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 20:20:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re:  Engine removal list suggestions..
Message-ID: <786163.96710.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 5/23/08, Ed Lindley <lindlaw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ed Lindley <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine removal list suggestions..
> To: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
> Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 8:18 PM
> "this same reference wants you to was the parts in
> petrol" You sure about that. I don't recall my
> Factory Manual [a green 4(?) ring binder] ever saying that.
> Ed in SD 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 5/23/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine removal list
> suggestions..
> > To: "David Lieb"
> <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> > Cc: "Spridgets"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 10:24 AM
> > I get what you're saying; just was pointing out
> that I
> > got that info
> > from RTFM! I appreciate the correction. Somehow, the
> > most learning is
> > instigated by the biggest screw-ups.
> > Disclaimer: I'm not a mechanic, and I don't
> > play one on T.V. Your
> > mileage may vary. Consult a physician first. May be
> > subject to local
> > regulations. Look both ways...
> > Marc
> > 
> > True, it won't hurt and it will make it faster
> finding
> > which set of holes
> > line up.
> > Bear in mind that this same reference wants you to was
> the
> > parts in petrol
> > and to use a screwdriver to get the snout back into
> the
> > transmission, so
> > take
> > it with a grain or two of salt.
> > David Lieb 
> > 
> > I would have no problem deferring to the expertise
> here on
> > the list, the
> > reason I mentioned this was that I was reading through
> the
> > shop manual to
> > become familiar with the project prior to diving in
> (which
> > prompted me to
> > start the checklist in the first place), and it says
> to
> > "Mark the flange"
> > in section G.2 
> > http://www.smarc.net/MG/techinfo/midget/Section-G.pdf
> > 
> > IMHO, can't hurt... I don't have any paint
> markers,
> > but I find that a
> > bottle of White-Out works good. Also good for making
> timing
> > marks easily
> > visable.
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri May 23 22:38:33 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:38:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Help for tired old eyes, Ed, this is for you
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805232138m12695d26m925e3fa03c9e277e@mail.gmail.com>

www.lasikathome.com

Now you will be able to see them coming for you.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri May 23 23:07:26 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 22:07:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <891387.67422.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <891387.67422.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4837A28E.90108@b2systems.com>

  Well, maybe good news.  This guy sent up all the red flags you can 
think of, bad spelling and contacting me from 3 different e-mail 
addresses, never asked a question about my car, just basically said he 
would like to buy it and offered me a mid-range price for it that is 
acceptable to me, told me he would arrange the shipping from S. Calif. 
and last red flag was the comment that he lives in Florida but is in 
Virginia for a few months.

  I just got off the phone with the Singer Owners Club secretary and it 
would appear he is a paying member since 2005, I was the President of 
the club until Jan of this year and have never heard of him so obviously 
a non-active but paying member.  We ONLY know this because one of the 
e-mail addresses he contacted me from is a members e-mail according to 
the club secretary.

 That makes me feel much better but I will be going very carefully 
anyway, I offered to split the paypal expenses but he said no, he wants 
to send either cashiers check or personal check, we are going to discuss 
this further but I may take one of this lists suggestions and pay for a 
attorney for escrow, we also have one club member in Virginia that I 
have contacted and maybe willing to play middle man and that member is 
retired attorney that I have met at a few Singer events on the East Coast.
 
 The club secretary gave me his phone number and I will call him in the 
morning to see if its the same guy and how we can proceed.

  Thanks for all the suggestions, glad to see I was not worried for nothing.

    mike
   
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 5/23/08, Mike Rambour /<mikey at b2systems.com>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Mike Rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
>     Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
>     To: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>     Date: Friday, May 23, 2008, 2:20 PM
>
>
>      So you guys buy and sell cars all the time, how do you do it ?
>
>         mike
>
>     p.s. I got my license in 1974
>      and I have NEVER sold a car before, traded 
>     2 in when I bought new ones but never sold a car (that may be why there 
>     are 9 cars at my house, I need the space! ) so this is all new to me.
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat May 24 00:26:16 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:26:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Brake Pedal
Message-ID: <6b40a10260a17f80a8f00a.20080523232616.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Now that my Bugeye is running so good, I am concentrating in other problem
areas such as the brakes.  I still have drums all the way around. I know,
I need discs in the front, but the parts have not come my way yet.  The
problem is I have a very hard brake pedal, but very little braking power. 
Actually less than I had when I first put the car together eight years
ago.  Also, when I make a panic stop, the car swerves to the right and
left!  Not a good thing.  Before I start taking eveything apart, anyone
have any ideas where to concentrate my search?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat May 24 00:30:27 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 23:30:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Wanted
Message-ID: <d0d4a1f716a2eab8a11670a.20080523233027.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Anyone have a nice combination gauge for a Bugeye they would like to sell.
 Face must be very nice.  I have a bezel for it if needed.  Mine lost the
ether and Palo Alto instrument repair turnaround is too long to get it
back in time for the 50th at Osage.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 24 06:51:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 05:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Brake Pedal
In-Reply-To: <6b40a10260a17f80a8f00a.20080523232616.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <6b40a10260a17f80a8f00a.20080523232616.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8bd9c$ecd1cf20$bd1ff304@spider>

Do the whole brake system. Your wheel cylinders are 'frozen'; rusted to the
point the internal parts are not working. Try bleeding one corner. If it
bleeds, you may be able to use the master cylinder for a while. Do one wheel
at a time, keeping the other wheel on that axle for reference in case you
misplace something. The big boys just replace the whole wheel cylinder.
Parts are available ...and you might mess something up if you have not
rebuilt these before. 
Reassemble and bleed that corner. Then on to the other side; then on to the
other axle. You'll probably have to replace the master cylinder somewhere in
here. Again, new parts are preferred over rebuilt. I have rebuilt several
hundred systems, and one time out of a hundred a working master cylinder
will go bad while I am doing only the wheel cylinders. 
Inspect the brake linings and drums while you are at it. Maybe even the
front wheel bearings and wheel seals. Take your time. Use DOT 3 brake fluid,
not the silicon based DOT 5 which can cause the rubber seals to swell.
...bill in Oregon

=========================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Brake Pedal

Now that my Bugeye is running so good, I am concentrating in other problem
areas such as the brakes.  I still have drums all the way around. I know,
I need discs in the front, but the parts have not come my way yet.  The
problem is I have a very hard brake pedal, but very little braking power. 
Actually less than I had when I first put the car together eight years
ago.  Also, when I make a panic stop, the car swerves to the right and
left!  Not a good thing.  Before I start taking eveything apart, anyone
have any ideas where to concentrate my search?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
_______________________________________________

From chris_west at juno.com  Sat May 24 07:42:40 2008
From: chris_west at juno.com (Chris M West)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 09:42:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels
Message-ID: <20080524.094240.2640.0.chris_west@juno.com>

Buo wrote:

Can anyone tell me anything about these wheels:
 
http://tinyurl.com/3vlmcv
 
I have five of them. They are 5" X 13" with 4" lug hole centers, are made
of
an alloy (no rust), and weigh 10 pounds. On the back are the markings
'Made in
England', 'Mag Product', 5JX13' and 'SM'. Any enlightenment would be
appreciated.
 
Thanks.
 
Bud
_______________________________________________

Bud - These look like the "Cosmic" brand wheels I sold back in the '70s
when I worked at a BAP/Geon parts store.  There were 2 styles - the ones
you have and a multi spoke design,  Both styles were not available for
all applications.  Spridget wheels were only in the style you have.  HTH,
Chris

AN5L35578

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 24 08:28:46 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 07:28:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pacific Northwest CARAVAN .. LoTO
In-Reply-To: <002401c8bd9c$ecd1cf20$bd1ff304@spider>
References: <6b40a10260a17f80a8f00a.20080523232616.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<002401c8bd9c$ecd1cf20$bd1ff304@spider>
Message-ID: <672087909.20080524072846@pacifier.com>

Hello,

        while certainly not the LAST chance, if you haven't started
        planning your trip by now, you probably aren't going, ...but..

        the caravan .. TWO WHOLE CARS LONG.... .leaves Seattle and
        Portland on June 21 st. The route is 1-5 from  Seattle to I-80
        in Portland, headed to Elko Nevada, then I-80 to Lincoln
        Nebraska, then a turn south down I-29 to Kansas City where
        we'll pick up I-70 and on into the Inn....

        the return trip will take up back the way we came to i-29,
        then North to Rapid City, where we turn right on I-90 for a
        shot right into Seattle, with a likely side trip to see Mt.
        Rushmore, and Crazy Horse monument, then down I-5 back to
        Portland. ....

        this makes the trip a grand tour, not just a shot out and back
        and evens up the distances for those driving from both major
        metropolitan areas..

        the plan is to average 50 mph, by driving near 60 mph, doing 5
        eight hour days of driving each way at about 400 miles per
        day. Some days longer, some shorter, as condition, conditions,
        and mechanical vagaries occur.


        en route mechanical assistance offers should give PHONE
        NUMBERS. We'll have cell phones and AAA with 100 miles of free
        towing as well as credit cards, but nothing helps like someone
        who knows the cars and has PARTS!

        anyone wishing to join up along the way or willing to offer
        physical or moral support in the form of tools, parts, room, or
        board, or just wishing to eye the caravan as it goes past,
        this is the time to make your wishes or offers known...


        FOUR WEEKS 'TIL DEPARTURE!

        hoping to see ya there or along the way!


        pythias at pacifier.com

        360.425.5435



     

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 24 11:10:41 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 12:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pacific Northwest CARAVAN .. LoTO
In-Reply-To: <672087909.20080524072846@pacifier.com>
References: <6b40a10260a17f80a8f00a.20080523232616.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<002401c8bd9c$ecd1cf20$bd1ff304@spider>
	<672087909.20080524072846@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805241010l81b56e7i566b00fffe393d3d@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/24/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
<snip>

>         then North to Rapid City, where we turn right on I-90 for a
>         shot right into Seattle,


<snip>

Hey Bill!  Great to hear you've got at least two of you to convoy.
Mark Hanna is coming from Estes Park CO and several are coming
from Lincoln, NE right along your route.

However,  my compass says that if you are going north and turn
"right" on I-90 at Rapid City, you are going to Seattle via Chicago,
Detroit,
Cleveland and Boston...    ;-)

See ya in the Ozarks!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat May 24 11:55:36 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:55:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV548EB44389E2BA09CF154D4C00@phx.gbl>

Jim....

The modern HIF44 has an emission tube
fitted to it which contains a "graduated
orifice" for relieving crankcase gasses/
pressures from the flame arrestor on the
timing chain cover via the usual rubber
tube.

It is used in conjunction with a "graduated
port" in the valve cover or oil cap (or stock old plastic filtered oil cap) which provides
"inlet air" into the crankcase.

Is your set-up different from that described
above?

CapBob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:41 AM
To: Spridgets, Midget/Sprite
Subject: [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!

Well, the oil leak problem is somewhat solved now.  As Frank suspected, it
appears to have been due to too much crankcase pressure. I pulled the hose
from the cannister off of the PCV valve and the leak abruptly stopped!

Now I have to figure out how to balance the pressure between the suction
from my Titan manifold and HIF44 and the crankcase pressure. I tried just
connecting the hose from the cannister on the timing cover directly to the
manifold with no PCV.  Wow!  I think it sucked about a pint of oil through
the system and I managed to fog off all the mosquitoes in the neighborhood!

It runs smoke free with the vent hose pulled loose from the PCV valve on the
manifold. When set up this way, I put my hand over the oil filler and there
is pretty neutral pressure. Trouble is, the vent hose does put out a little
oil smoke/mist into the engine compartment.

I talked with Frank a little last night trying to figure this out, but I am
still confused.  My valve cover doesn't have a vent tube on it. If it did,
I'm not sure I know what to connect where and what do I do with the vent
hose? Even though its not very much oil smoke, I can't let it continue to
blow it around inside ofthe engine compartment.

Any ideas on how to rig this up gratefully accepted!  I only have a few
weeks let before Lake of the Ozarks so it needs to get fixed quick so I can
tackle other issues.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 24 12:25:17 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 11:25:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pacific Northwest CARAVAN .. LoTO
In-Reply-To: <635219.87126.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <672087909.20080524072846@pacifier.com>
	<635219.87126.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1136525580.20080524112517@pacifier.com>

Hello Ed,

     ok.. i didn['t check the map too closely......

     we'll go north on i-29 until it interects I-90, then head for
     Seattle... ..

     got the towns and the directions all fuzzed up, but the roads
     correct...... maybe... ya'll get the general idea....

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
     * "That horse looks like a good bet at 17 to 1," said Tom oddly.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 24 17:28:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:28:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>

For those who aren't already slightly ill from following my aimless
ramblings over my crankcase pressure problem, here are some pictures that
may help.  I was able to identify the carb as an FZX1435 which is a variety
of HIF44 per the MiniMania website. The pictures (below link) show
everything set up the way it was when I got the car. In this configuration,
there is too much crankcase pressure and thus the Exxon Valdez impersonation
to the tune of about 1 quart every 30 miles or so at high rpm. My question
is concerning the crankcase vacuum port on the carb. I want to try to
connect the hose from the cannister on the timing cover to the crankcase
vacuum port, but cannot identify it. I believe the port on top of the carb
manifold flange (yellowish cap on it) may be my answer. Any one care to
opine??

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/
-
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 24 17:48:47 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:48:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805241648p67029dd0if2d770be2c496f54@mail.gmail.com>

Make or get (from APT) a carb spacer block with a vacuum port.
Maybe lose the PCV valve and just run some vacuum?  You seem to have
the PCV valve backward, anyway.  I'd try losing it all together.
Those extra ports go different places.  Some go to a vacuum source
near the throttle plate for some dizzys with strange vacuum needs.
Double check the one where you have your dizz and make sure it is
giving the kind of signal your dizz needs, ie shrouded or not.
Your fuel bowl vent could use a little hose down or something.  It
probably went to some kind of charcoal/tank vent system on the
original car.
My book shows FZX 1435 is for 1982 Metro Turbo, which means unless you
have different needle/spring/jet, you are probably not going to get it
tuned correctly.
The book shows needle NZX 8004, spring AUD 4398, and jet LZX 1029.
The jet is common to non-turbo 80-82 1275 Metros but the spring/needle
are different.
HTH
Sorry if this stuff was already covered, I just started reading this thread.
First, try losing or reversing your PCV valve.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 24 17:52:06 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:52:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805241652j57d564c4x32f5ca409570f677@mail.gmail.com>

That is a great carb, BTW.
The "book" I refer to is the Haynes Techbook Weber Carb Manual which
also covers SU and ZS carbs in detail, a VERY good book to have.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 24 18:56:46 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:56:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c8be02$35791980$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I believe the port on top of the carb
manifold flange (yellowish cap on it) may be my answer.>>

Take the cap of and measure how much Vac you have for starters.

And I am not even gonna check pics on the pos flickr.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 24 18:58:38 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:58:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910805241652j57d564c4x32f5ca409570f677@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00f401c8be02$782a4fb0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<a VERY good book to have.>>

And SHOULD be in every LBCer's library IMHO, derf!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 24 18:02:06 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:02:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c8be02$35791980$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01c8be02$35791980$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805241702g1472e985r6b2a71ca8b9dbdf@mail.gmail.com>

But be careful, as I stated, some SUs have vacuum ports near the
butterfly that will give you different vacuum signals than a regular
port.
I don't know nearly as much as Ed but I have done a few HIFs, some
from Volvos, and they have some strange things like vapor valves that
operate with the throttle, tandem bowl vents, etc.
I guess you already know the rich/lean screw is kinda backward from
conventional.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat May 24 18:03:50 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:03:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
In-Reply-To: <00f401c8be02$782a4fb0$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910805241652j57d564c4x32f5ca409570f677@mail.gmail.com>
	<00f401c8be02$782a4fb0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910805241703h6db07d7due3c8cb1a707a7590@mail.gmail.com>

I STRONGLY agree but I didn't stumble on to it until I started playing
with Webers.  Even if you don't have a Weber, you should have the book
if you do have SUs or ZSs.  Although I pity the fool that has ZSs.

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Sat May 24 18:24:49 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 17:24:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01c8be02$35791980$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <002001c8bdfd$bebd9450$6401a8c0@Music>

On my car I use the pipe with the black cap for the hose from the timing 
cover.

Jon


> <<I believe the port on top of the carb
> manifold flange (yellowish cap on it) may be my answer.>>
>
> Take the cap of and measure how much Vac you have for starters.
>
> And I am not even gonna check pics on the pos flickr.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 24 19:33:56 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 19:33:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
References: <43840a7e0805241628v1aa5d12ex5ab3e29a2789275c@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910805241652j57d564c4x32f5ca409570f677@mail.gmail.com><00f401c8be02$782a4fb0$6801a8c0@shop>
	<5f00d9910805241703h6db07d7due3c8cb1a707a7590@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013601c8be07$663f4490$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I STRONGLY agree but I didn't stumble on to it until I started playing with Webers.  Even if you don't have a Weber, you should have the book if you do have SUs or ZSs.>>  

Absolutely agree, derf!!

<<Although I pity the fool that has ZSs.>>

Nah.  They ARE good cars AS LONG AS one gets RID of the DA*ned "water choke"!!

As a matter of fact I LOVE them WITH water choke!!  When I first decided to actually open a shop I said to myself NO cat equipped cars!!
PERIOD!!!  1st couple DOZEN cars turned out to BE ZS cars WITH said water choke.  I can now do the conversion to Manual Choke on a MGB is a half hour and about 50 mts on a Spridget!!!  Made me a LOT of money<VBG>!!!  And the only "learning curve" was finding out that there are TWO kits one the market.  Had to do 1 each one 1st two cars.
One positively S**ks and the other is a POC!!!<G>  In fact I stock the "simple" one.  Probably my single biggest item sold since open<VBG>!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat May 24 20:07:52 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 20:07:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Help for tired old eyes, Ed, this is for you
References: <5f00d9910805232138m12695d26m925e3fa03c9e277e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005201c8be0c$23da6760$6801a8c0@shop>

Man derf....

<<www.lasikathome.com
Now you will be able to see them coming for you.>>

you have FAR to much free time on your hands!!!!  LOL

NO thanks, I'll keep my perferctly GOOD glasses (self-tinting) and NOT take a "chance" with MY eyes and NOT have to buy handfuls of sun-glasses!!!<G>

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Sat May 24 20:44:42 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 22:44:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels
Message-ID: <19701599.1211683483099.JavaMail.root@wmvirt33>

Bud - These look like the "Cosmic" brand wheels I sold back in the '70s when I worked at a BAP/Geon parts store.  There were 2 styles - the ones you have and a multi spoke design,  Both styles were not available for all applications.  Spridget wheels were only in the style you have. 

Not so... I have a set of Cosmic magnesium wheels that are different (earlier than the spoked wheels) and so does Guy Weller of this list. I have never seen any over here like Guy's. The wheels in Bud's photo remind me of the stock alloy wheels on a Jensen Healey. They might have been manufactured by Cosmic just for that car.
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun May 25 06:12:13 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 12:12:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez
	Saga...
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV10F39CBA413962BB7E3EC6D4C30@phx.gbl>

("Pictures") Hmmmm....

I think Ed is correct in that that yellow cover hides a vacuum port. I can't tell whether it's up stream or downstream of the butterfly, though. But I think it's down-stream. 

Thus, it could be a vac. port for an emissions distibutor, the type
which runs with full vacuum advance at idle and actually retards the spark with reduced intake manifold vacuum.

This type of distributor was used in early
emissions set-ups ('68) when emissions
standards called for checking emissions at
idle rpm's. 

Vacuum advance retarded as quickly at
manifold vacuum was lost depending upon how far and fast you put your foot down, as mechanical advance portion of the dizzy  "advanced" with rpm. These were the long/slow advance curve types as emmissions were becoming as, if not more
important than performance.

This dizzy was usually (but not always) matched to carb's having poppet valves in their for additional leaning on decleration which led to those "popping" exhausts of cars with the early emissions set-ups.  

You seem to have the hose from the flame arrestor on the timing cover going into a fitting on the Titan waterheated intake manifold. Do I have that right, Jim?

If so, Is there a PCV valve in that fitting or is it just the hose connected to the intake
manifold? 
 
CapBob

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun May 25 07:13:13 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:13:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV300BB32443DE3087E0D77D4C30@phx.gbl>

So why not replace the apparently clogged/malfunctioning PCV valve
in the Titan intake manifold?

CapBob

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun May 25 07:33:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 08:33:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV300BB32443DE3087E0D77D4C30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV300BB32443DE3087E0D77D4C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805250633l68ae330ei383aeb56e2fdc710@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

> So why not replace the apparently clogged/malfunctioning PCV valve
> in the Titan intake manifold?


Did that. Made no difference.  Also, as in my other message to you, that
valve is dumping the oil mist /crankcase pressure into only the rear branch
of the manifold. That doesn't make sense to me...  Wouldn't it be best to
mix that pressure/mist with the air/fuel mixture coming through the carb
venturi?

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun May 25 08:43:08 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:43:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] The seemingly endless Exxon Valdez Saga...
Message-ID: <bd4.3096caeb.356ad4fc@aol.com>

That does indeed appear to be the MG Metro turbo carb and assuming it is  the 
turbo carb and not just a regular HIF44 with a turbo dashpot it's worth a  
lot more money.  
 
The turbo carb has a bunch of special seals inside it to prevent boost  
pressuring the fuel line and stuff like that.  I don't know what else is  unique to 
that carb but I'd sell it to someone who really needs a turbo HIF44,  fit a 
regular carb in its place, and keep the change.
 
Alan Fisher has recently acquired an MG Metro turbo manifold.
 
In a message dated 25/05/2008 00:29:15 GMT Daylight Time,  bmwwxman at gmail.com 
writes:

I was  able to identify the carb as an FZX1435 which is a variety
of HIF44 per the  MiniMania website. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun May 25 09:49:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:49:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] parts request
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP113DD034B3E25C3DF84542B8C30@CEZ.ICE>

I've been contacted by a racer who had a spindle break and he hit the tire
wall at Mosport hard enough.

 

His name is Nick; is located around Mosport ( Toronto, I think ); and is
looking for 

>> some kingpin assemblies, spindles and hubs

>> Even just the RF. 

 

I believe that he has a line on hood, front fenders and the front cowl
assembly, but would appreciate to hear what you have if you have some of
these to offer.  My understanding is that he's looking for something ready
to use.  

 

Robert D.

NFI

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun May 25 09:52:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:52:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] parts request
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP113DD034B3E25C3DF84542B8C30@CEZ.ICE>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP113DD034B3E25C3DF84542B8C30@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP02D547237B97E4B0F4916BB8C30@CEZ.ICE>

Duh!

His email address is: npratt at nexicom.net


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Duquette

I've been contacted by a racer who had a spindle break and he hit the tire
wall at Mosport hard enough.

His name is Nick; is located around Mosport ( Toronto, I think ); and is
looking for 

>> some kingpin assemblies, spindles and hubs
>> Even just the RF. 

I believe that he has a line on hood, front fenders and the front cowl
assembly, but would appreciate to hear what you have if you have some of
these to offer.  My understanding is that he's looking for something ready
to use.  

Robert D.
NFI

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Sun May 25 10:49:01 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 09:49:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] parts request
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP113DD034B3E25C3DF84542B8C30@CEZ.ICE>
	<BAYC1-PASMTP02D547237B97E4B0F4916BB8C30@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <BD82303E6848483C94AA369596FF1352@DBKF4T81>

Oddly enough, I have sitting in front of me an "orphan" spindle that was in 
a box of assorted parts from the boot of  a Morris Minor I once bought.

I take it to be from a disc brake-equipped Spidget. I also take it to be a 
left spindle. But, don't take my word for it. (I am not usually quite these 
dense but, unfortunately, there's a pain killer-induced fog in my 
neighborhood at the moment.)

The part number on the spindle  is BTA 746 EN 16T.

Before anyone gets too excited please note that the very outer edge of the 
bearing surface is scored around its circumference. I do not know if that is 
the type of thing that could be taken care by using a Redi-Sleeve or not.

If anyone is interested in this spindle feel free to contact me off-list.

Pete



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] parts request


> Duh!
>
> His email address is: npratt at nexicom.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Duquette
>
> I've been contacted by a racer who had a spindle break and he hit the tire
> wall at Mosport hard enough.
>
> His name is Nick; is located around Mosport ( Toronto, I think ); and is
> looking for
>
>>> some kingpin assemblies, spindles and hubs
>>> Even just the RF.
>
> I believe that he has a line on hood, front fenders and the front cowl
> assembly, but would appreciate to hear what you have if you have some of
> these to offer.  My understanding is that he's looking for something ready
> to use.
>
> Robert D.
> NFI
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun May 25 11:55:32 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 10:55:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Super Charger winner ?
Message-ID: <24995.9409.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Moss was suppose to pull the winner last month. I have never seen it posted any where. I know it was not me - I did not enter after i read the rules. Moss being the nice people they are hit you with a 1099 to make your day so it counts as earnings - Well some people can not make that much a month. Any body like me and most of the retired community. The retired people get there amount decreased for ever if they make over a certain number. I am still wondering who won it or is this some sceam Moss dreamed up and never came through on. It would not be the first time a company rigged a raffle. 
   
  Vigil

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun May 25 12:16:09 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:16:09 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV120F1064E9DF6419C05B65D4C30@phx.gbl>

Sorry, Jim...I didn't catch all your earlier posts on this. :)

While the old ventilated engines ran a tube from the valve cover to the front carb only on the stock double SU set-up....,it would make more sense to involve all cylinders rather than just the forward or rear two considering your desire to run a true closed
circuit PCV system, which the ventilated motors certainly did not run.

And this is what the later SU carbs equipped with emissions tubes had in mind. That's what the modern
emissions tube equipped SU's do. But you've an older model SU without the modern emmissions tubes so the best you can do is match a PCV valve to your
manifold.

Of course, you could drill the other branch of the Titan and using the "correct"
in-line PCV valve in the "main" hose from the cannister on the timing chain cover, acquire and install a "Y" connector and run two hoses, one to  each side of the intake manifold. 

Or, for $400 you could acquire a new, ball- bearing equipped HIF44 with emissions tube housing the correct size "graduated
orifice" for a closed loop PCV system and the hell with a PCV valve.

Or...simply run "ventilated" as in pre-emission motors. Which I've always done
with all my Series A motors, whether emission type or not. I just convert them
"back" and run without octane diluting
crankcase vapors being introduced into
the combustion process. Stays cleaner in there longer!!!!

And as long as you keep the motor tuned, you're not gonna pollute to any great extent.

Even my PO'd Vizardized 1340+ VP3 equipped motor running 11.0-1 on a mix of CAM2 "purple" and unleaded "93" almost made emissions specs for the year of the machine ('74 Midget) in CT. Missed it by a hairbreath in HC by less than 200ppm.

Pretty damn clean for a motor which got
a dynoed 90HP at the rear wheels.

So you'll not be polluting much, Jim. Just keep it reasonable well-tuned up. 

CapBob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 9:33 AM
Cc: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

> So why not replace the apparently clogged/malfunctioning PCV valve
> in the Titan intake manifold?


Did that. Made no difference.  Also, as in my other message to you, that
valve is dumping the oil mist /crankcase pressure into only the rear branch
of the manifold. That doesn't make sense to me...  Wouldn't it be best to
mix that pressure/mist with the air/fuel mixture coming through the carb
venturi?

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun May 25 12:27:16 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] parts request
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP02D547237B97E4B0F4916BB8C30@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <876708.16849.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've seen a few spindles fail on the track, and I
wouldn't mess around with used parts. Call Rod
Hahnemann and www.spridgetech.com or Winner's Circle,
www.spridget.com, and order the competition spindles.
These parts are the rare racing parts that are not
file-to-fit.

If you MUST go used, have the spindles crack checked.


--- Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Duh!
> 
> His email address is: npratt at nexicom.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Duquette
> 
> I've been contacted by a racer who had a spindle
> break and he hit the tire
> wall at Mosport hard enough.
> 
> His name is Nick; is located around Mosport (
> Toronto, I think ); and is
> looking for 
> 
> >> some kingpin assemblies, spindles and hubs
> >> Even just the RF. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun May 25 12:30:36 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 14:30:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] u joints
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP06E5F57A0CEE2C64921B64B8C30@CEZ.ICE>

Hmmm!

 

I have been having weird sounds from the drive train for a while.  I assumed
that at least part of the problem was the u-joints, so I went out this
morning to check it out.  Hmmm!  There's an extra car in the driveway parked
in front of the garage door.  Normally, I would have turned the car around (
facing in ).  But, not today apparently.  There was enough room to push it
out into the doorway to give me room to access from behind ( sides are not
an option ).  So, jacked her up, on stands, wiggle the rear u-joint and was
confident about them being at least part of the problem.  Detached the rear
of the drive shaft and noted that there were matching score marks.  Then I
went to pull the drive shaft and at that moment started to wonder if I
should be draining the oil first.  Checked another gearbox and noted the
position of the filler plug and the lower edge of the hole where the drive
shaft fits in.  Should be okay.  Then, I pulled it.  Only one of the
u-joints has a grease fitting.  Both are shot.  So, I grab the drive shaft
from the eternal sprite project.  Both u-joints seem good.  Only one has a
grease fitting.  Figure it's best to grease it first.  Can't find the grease
gun.  I only had limited time to work on the Midget.  So, I figure I'll put
it in and grease it later.  Masking tape to wrap the front yoke ??  Can't
find that either.  Finally . time's up.  Gotta go.  Now I have to lower the
car and push it back into the garage.  I'm not so confident that the oil
won't come out when the car is lowered.  I did buy some masking tape while I
was out.  Any bets on the oil situation?  :-)

 

Hopefully, I'll get back to it today.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun May 25 13:31:52 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:31:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] parts request
Message-ID: <d1d.2584eb98.356b18a8@aol.com>

I haven't seen any break but know that they do.  I have a NOS spindle  one 
side and a racing spindle on the other side.  I think it is fatigue  that causes 
the failure. I agree with Ron and further suggest it's a false  economy to 
run stock spindle.
 
In a message dated 25/05/2008 19:27:45 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com  
writes:

I've  seen a few spindles fail on the track, and I
wouldn't mess around with used  parts. Call Rod
Hahnemann and www.spridgetech.com or Winner's  Circle,
www.spridget.com, and order the competition  spindles.

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun May 25 14:32:58 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 13:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] selling a car and getting paid.
In-Reply-To: <4837A28E.90108@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <20080525203239.1A199187674@autox.team.net>

Mike, It is really very simple. Let him send you a check, put the check in
your bank, ask for the bank to notify you when the check has "cleared
collection". This last is very important and means your bank has sent the
check for "collection" and it has cleared for payment. Ask your banker what
this means and explain what you want. Let the seller know that you will only
ship the car or any paperwork after his check has "cleared" being sent for
"collection". Most people get into trouble because they think because the
bank accepts the check for payment that, that means it has "cleared", it
doesn't.   
The only other method I would use is Cash, small bills, non-sequential
serial numbers.  
		Crash

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May 25 16:54:04 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:54:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV120F1064E9DF6419C05B65D4C30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV120F1064E9DF6419C05B65D4C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <37b0a8628ac720a8700a.20080525155404.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Jim,
     APT sells the carb you need (same one I bought from them) for
$329.00.  All you need is a stub stack (part no. MSS44) $32.50 and
put your K&N filter on it.  Block off the balance tube and put vacuum
advance on the port fitting (behind the piston cover, see link)

http://www.aptfast.com/Images_Parts/SU/HIF44.jpg


A spacer is only 20 bucks and you are in business.  I have no PCV valve on
my car and only have a vent tapped into the mechanical fuel pump boss with
a 1/2 inch brass fitting, a rubber tube and a small cylindrical K&N type
filter.  You can actually feel a slight suction when you put your hand
over the oil filler neck on the valve cover when the car is running.  If
you want to go for the performance option, APT will build up an epoxy ramp
in your carb intake throat per Vizard for cleaner air flow into the
manifold. A slight ram effect.  I can bring it with me next month if you
buy it to save shipping.
Mike MacLean



Robert E. Shlafer


> Or, for $400 you could acquire a new, ball- bearing equipped HIF44 with
> emissions tube housing the correct size "graduated
> orifice" for a closed loop PCV system and the hell with a PCV valve.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun May 25 17:24:49 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 23:24:49 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV949BFCC2DA271B4EB9024D4C30@phx.gbl>

Beautiful, Mike! You are a Godsend!! :)

No need of a PCV valve with this carb incorporating a "graduated orifice"
via the emissions tube upstream of the butterfly. "Other side" of this PCV system
is a vented oil filler cap for crankcase inlet air (as you said, Mike. You can feel the suction at the oil filler neck). The old stock filterd plasic cap will do with the stock valve cover.

Still a reasonable price for this excellent  carb. BTW. How refreshing! :)

Sounds like the way to go Jim Johnson?

CapBob


-----Original Message-----
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 6:54 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Exxon Valdez is in remission!

Jim,
     APT sells the carb you need (same one I bought from them) for
$329.00.  All you need is a stub stack (part no. MSS44) $32.50 and
put your K&N filter on it.  Block off the balance tube and put vacuum
advance on the port fitting (behind the piston cover, see link)

http://www.aptfast.com/Images_Parts/SU/HIF44.jpg


A spacer is only 20 bucks and you are in business.  I have no PCV valve on
my car and only have a vent tapped into the mechanical fuel pump boss with
a 1/2 inch brass fitting, a rubber tube and a small cylindrical K&N type
filter.  You can actually feel a slight suction when you put your hand
over the oil filler neck on the valve cover when the car is running.  If
you want to go for the performance option, APT will build up an epoxy ramp
in your carb intake throat per Vizard for cleaner air flow into the
manifold. A slight ram effect.  I can bring it with me next month if you
buy it to save shipping.
Mike MacLean



Robert E. Shlafer


> Or, for $400 you could acquire a new, ball- bearing equipped HIF44 with
> emissions tube housing the correct size "graduated
> orifice" for a closed loop PCV system and the hell with a PCV valve.

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sun May 25 18:11:36 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50 UK
Message-ID: <483A0038.8080604@verizon.net>

Not sure this URL will transmit, but I have never seen this many spridgets:

http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=41738181602073&mode=imgdis&ifile=2|110_2008052418073032481_51672705600099_1211664163.jpg 

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sun May 25 18:26:14 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:26:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50 UK
Message-ID: <483A03A6.6070600@verizon.net>

OK, that did not work. Instead I have copied a couple of pix
to my we site until I can sort this out:

http://mysite.verizon.net/cciaffone/charl48/spridget50/spridget50.htm

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun May 25 19:28:25 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:28:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [midgetsprite] Spridget 50, UK
Message-ID: <00b501c8becf$cbb8e920$6801a8c0@shop>

You folks will NOT believe this UK bunch of pics!!!!!   UN-REAL!!!!
***********************************************************
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Guy Weller 
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: [midgetsprite] Spridget 50, UK


A truely amazing event!
I haven't uploaded my photos yet, but here are a couple of links to other's
photos, just to give a taster of the day!

http://mobiasstrip.com/Spridget50/index.html

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25485888 at N08/sets/72157605254647435/

Guy

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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sun May 25 18:29:32 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 20:29:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [midgetsprite] Spridget 50, UK
In-Reply-To: <00b501c8becf$cbb8e920$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <00b501c8becf$cbb8e920$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <483A046C.4010703@verizon.net>

What I mean!

Ed's Shop wrote:
> You folks will NOT believe this UK bunch of pics!!!!!   UN-REAL!!!!

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun May 25 19:16:37 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 18:16:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
Message-ID: <98a0a16fb0a221c0a17200a.20080525181637.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

I know where the 50th Bugeye off the assembly line is and it is for sale
(around 14-15K).  It still has ALL it's original equipment including
rubber mats.  This car was restored by Dick Santana in the early 80's. 
Donald Healey himself sat in this car.  I may be mistaken, but I am told
it is the yellow Bugeye that Donald is sitting in in Bill Emerson's Healey
book.Wouldn't that be the car to have this year!
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
P.S. Somebody buy my car so I can buy the 50th car!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun May 25 23:29:34 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 22:29:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
Message-ID: <1193255832.20080525222934@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      Survey asks...


      what kind (BE SPECIFIC.. Brand, Model #, etc) of floor jacks are
      being used out there...

      Father's Day is coming..... ..

        i have a small floor jack, but
      when i push it under the gas tank to reach the diffy, i don't
      have room to pump the handle.... longer ones, seems that the
      same thing happens.. when they reach as far as the diffy, the
      handle is on the ground and can't be pumped... so its either ..
      drive up on bricks then put the jack under, OR get the axle
      first from one side, put a jack stand under, then the other
      side, put another jack stand, then back to the middle raise the
      whole works and reset the jack stands... isn't there a low
      profile racing jack or a long jack thin enough to reach ?




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Help stamp out, eliminate and abolish redundancy! 

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon May 26 01:45:11 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:45:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <1193255832.20080525222934@pacifier.com>
References: <1193255832.20080525222934@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>

   Check  out  http://www.ultimategarage.com/ach-overview.html  for an AC
   Hydraulic jack.  I have one and am very pleased.
   -g
   Bill L wrote:

Hello Spridgets,

      Survey asks...

      what kind (BE SPECIFIC.. Brand, Model #, etc) of floor jacks are
      being used out there...

      Father's Day is coming..... ..

        i have a small floor jack, but
      when i push it under the gas tank to reach the diffy, i don't
      have room to pump the handle.... longer ones, seems that the
      same thing happens.. when they reach as far as the diffy, the
      handle is on the ground and can't be pumped... so its either ..
      drive up on bricks then put the jack under, OR get the axle
      first from one side, put a jack stand under, then the other
      side, put another jack stand, then back to the middle raise the
      whole works and reset the jack stands... isn't there a low
      profile racing jack or a long jack thin enough to reach ?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon May 26 04:18:47 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 05:18:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <1193255832.20080525222934@pacifier.com>
References: <1193255832.20080525222934@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090805260318j32661224n88fa5e7bce9f9831@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92782
I have this one, and it allows me to get the saddle under the rear diff, and
still be able to move the handle to raise it. I have even used this to raise
the rear of the car, AFTER I have put the front up on ramps. When I remove
or replace the drive train, I put the front on ramps, and the rear on jack
stands. For the general hobbyist, this has worked out well for me. I have
had it over 2 years, and it is still working well for me. It may not live
long in a professional garage, but it's alright by me.
FWIW, I did get the extended warranty. The jack was originally touted as
going to full lift in two pumps. My first one didn't, so I took it back. Now
they say it reaches full lift in 6 pumps, which is more like it. Other than
that, it has worked very well.

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      Survey asks...
>
>
>      what kind (BE SPECIFIC.. Brand, Model #, etc) of floor jacks are
>      being used out there...
>
>      Father's Day is coming..... ..
>
>        i have a small floor jack, but
>      when i push it under the gas tank to reach the diffy, i don't
>      have room to pump the handle.... longer ones, seems that the
>      same thing happens.. when they reach as far as the diffy, the
>      handle is on the ground and can't be pumped... so its either ..
>      drive up on bricks then put the jack under, OR get the axle
>      first from one side, put a jack stand under, then the other
>      side, put another jack stand, then back to the middle raise the
>      whole works and reset the jack stands... isn't there a low
>      profile racing jack or a long jack thin enough to reach ?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  Help stamp out, eliminate and abolish redundancy!
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon May 26 04:39:19 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 03:39:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42820
These are frequently on sale for $99.95
I've had mine for 14 years. Lifting range is about 3 feet.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon May 26 06:28:14 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:28:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Memorial Day
Message-ID: <5AEC7C5D-9633-4F2B-AAB3-0DF3F1E5E906@phillymgclub.com>

Hope every one in the US of A has a great day.

Take a moment from your BBQ's and frosty beverages and raise a glass  
to salute and remember all those that have sacrificed to allow us this  
day in May.

I, for one, thank  all of them. For 232+ years many Americans have  
given and deserve our remembrances.

Larry


-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon May 26 07:23:00 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
References: <C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <001001c8bf33$9f0bd810$0201a8c0@midget>

And for a third Harbor Freight item, I use
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=91039
Be aware that, although Harbor Freight will tell you that they sell parts 
for their jacks, the selection is very limited, the local store has NONE, 
and it is generally cheaper to replace the jack than to repair it. What else 
is new? The roller on the back of mine that pushes on the hydraulic cylinder 
disappeared (accompanied by a loud springy noise... I found the other parts, 
but not the roller). After due consideration, the spacer from a Spridget 
front lowering kit was found to fit perfectly.
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 26 08:02:16 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:02:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>
	<C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     looks like the consensus so far is Harbor Fright.. now if i can
     find one of their stores... none around these parts. .. maybe
     Tthere's one down in Portland, somewhere........

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "My extreme emotional instability arises from a psychoneurosis," hissed Eric.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon May 26 08:36:12 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:36:12 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] u-joint - epilog
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34D685710DF6136A87CBF3B8C20@phx.gbl>

Well, ... I am an idiot at times.  Installing the drive shaft from behind 
using the masking tape around the front u-joint was very easy to do.  I got 
it on the second try.  The whole job, done leisurely ( some whistling 
involved ) took 16-ish minutes from car on stands to ready to take the car 
off stands.  So, I thank all for the info of wrapping the masking tape 
around and letting me know in advance that the bolt holes aren't evenly 
spaced.  My "duh!" moment was that I tried to blindly install it the first 
time.  I inserted the drive shaft in and waited until I heard metal on 
metal.  Then I tried to figure out where the hole was.  That lasted about 20 
seconds and the tape failed.  Pulled it out, rewrapped it and thought to 
turn on a work light ... :)

I brought out the video camera to record the event as I thought that it 
might be funny.  Camera placement got me a video of the back of my head and 
my right elbow for the most part.

Most of my drive train noises went away, so I'm a happy boy.  I brought the 
camera turned on on the passenger seat for the test drive to try to capture 
sound.  I'm not sure how that went.

RD

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon May 26 08:38:51 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:38:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
References: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>
	<C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1741825166.20080526073851@pacifier.com>

Hello Bill,

     anyone have experience with this one?

     http://www.restockit.com/2-Ton-Low-Rider-Floor-Jack-(INT200T).html?source=froogle

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I was adopted," said Tom transparently.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon May 26 08:52:59 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 14:52:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500
Message-ID: <BAY112-F384C9E0A0323BF1DDD878AB8C20@phx.gbl>

Some guy in or around Ottawa is looking for a good engine for a '75 Midget.  
I assume that means a 1500.

http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/3398992&category=autos-wanted

NFI

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon May 26 08:59:12 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 07:59:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
References: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>,
	<C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <483A6DD0.12008.1E4B8D@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Bill,

We've got one here in the Tri-Cities (if you fancy a4 hour trip)  (GRIN)

FWIW I use their item # 47246

It's light enough that I don't have to call on my boys when I need to use it...

Remember the fallen of all wars....

On 26 May 2008 at 7:02, Bill L wrote:
>>      looks like the consensus so far is Harbor Fright.. now if i can
>>      find one of their stores... none around these parts. .. maybe
>>      Tthere's one down in Portland, somewhere.....


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon May 26 09:10:47 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 10:10:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets]  Floor Jack?
Message-ID: <7469C99378E642FB91AC87D3DB9EA57C@Dell9200>

I bought a new NORCO  jack a few months ago on the recommendation of a list
member.  Here is a link and they shipped it to me for $15.00 !!  The truck
bill of lading said they charged about $60....
http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/cgi-bin/ryderfp/products/srm/oid/120273/pn/Floor-Jack-Service-2.25-Ton/erm/product_detail.jsp
It will jack up the back of my Bugeye but the handle motion is limited for
the first few pumps, not a problem for me.  It is heavy and not suitable for
portable use.   I replaced a Craftsman POS aluminum jack that only lasted a
year TWICE!

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      Survey asks...


      what kind (BE SPECIFIC.. Brand, Model #, etc) of floor jacks are
      being used out there...

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon May 26 09:47:20 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:47:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor Jack?
In-Reply-To: <299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
References: <483A6A87.4070705@gmail.com>
	<C45FE167.1640C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<299320151.20080526070216@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <483ADB88.5020008@smarc.net>

Tractor Supply Center carries a lot of the same exact stuff, sometimes 
painted a different color.

Marc



Bill L wrote:
> Hello,
>
>      looks like the consensus so far is Harbor Fright.. now if i can
>      find one of their stores... none around these parts. .. maybe
>      Tthere's one down in Portland, somewhere........

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon May 26 10:26:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:26:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" price goes up very soon!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805260926k4cb53622p63bf710d643b9a@mail.gmail.com>

Just a heads up to everyone who is still vacillating or procrastinating...
Starting June 2nd (just 6 days from now!) the registration price will be
$75!!   $50 per car, driver and passenger until then.  Time to make your
move!

You can register online at http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org.  Click on
"Registration" in upper right and follow the instructions.  You don't need a
PayPal account to use any credit card to register. Just follow the
directions on the PayPal pages.  If you print the registration form from the
website and mail it, be sure it is postmarked before June 2nd. Those
received with a later postmark will come in at the $75 rate so don't delay -
get it done now!

BTW, there are still some of the Special Limited Edition Cloisonne and Gold
Plate Grille Badges. Let us know at "SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com" if you want
one and we'll contact you to confirm that we have one for you. There are a
ton of door prizes , silent auction items, and raffle items!  Not to mention
nearly 50 award plaques to be won!

Well over 60 Spridgets are already registered and they are coming from all
four corners of North America!!  There are a couple that are driving nearly
2,000 miles one way to get there!!  Bravo!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon May 26 12:38:51 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 11:38:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
In-Reply-To: <98a0a16fb0a221c0a17200a.20080525181637.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net>

I'll give you $50 for it!!!!!!
		Crash


I know where the 50th Bugeye off the assembly line is and it is for sale
(around 14-15K).  It still has ALL it's original equipment including
rubber mats.  This car was restored by Dick Santana in the early 80's. 
Donald Healey himself sat in this car.  I may be mistaken, but I am told
it is the yellow Bugeye that Donald is sitting in in Bill Emerson's Healey
book.Wouldn't that be the car to have this year!
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
P.S. Somebody buy my car so I can buy the 50th car!

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 26 16:44:06 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 16:44:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
References: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <01c601c8bf82$01849920$6801a8c0@shop>

Sorry Crash, I'll go $500.00 !!!!
<<I'll give you $50 for it!!!!!!
Crash

I know where the 50th Bugeye off the assembly line is and it is for sale>>

<G>

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon May 26 16:51:44 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 15:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
References: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <002401c8bf83$12f905f0$53997e4c@HP>

You would just sell it and throw the profit into a hole in the ocean.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
To: <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50


> I'll give you $50 for it!!!!!!
> Crash
>
>
> I know where the 50th Bugeye off the assembly line is and it is for sale
> (around 14-15K).  It still has ALL it's original equipment including
> rubber mats.  This car was restored by Dick Santana in the early 80's.
> Donald Healey himself sat in this car.  I may be mistaken, but I am told
> it is the yellow Bugeye that Donald is sitting in in Bill Emerson's Healey
> book.Wouldn't that be the car to have this year!
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> P.S. Somebody buy my car so I can buy the 50th car!
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 26 18:16:21 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:16:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
References: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net>
	<002401c8bf83$12f905f0$53997e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <02ee01c8bf8e$e4d25530$6801a8c0@shop>

<<You would just sell it and throw the profit into a hole in the ocean.>>

Crash couldn't, Larry!!  He is TOO far away from the Pacific!!!!!

And I KNOW he is toooooo far from the Atlantic!!!!  LOL

YOU, on the other hand.......<G>

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon May 26 18:59:56 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 17:59:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
References: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net><002401c8bf83$12f905f0$53997e4c@HP>
	<02ee01c8bf8e$e4d25530$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <003b01c8bf94$fb366450$53997e4c@HP>

He is very close to a very large body of water though.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50


> <<You would just sell it and throw the profit into a hole in the ocean.>>
> 
> Crash couldn't, Larry!!  He is TOO far away from the Pacific!!!!!
> 
> And I KNOW he is toooooo far from the Atlantic!!!!  LOL
> 
> YOU, on the other hand.......<G>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon May 26 20:08:41 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:08:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th and Car 50
References: <20080526183835.50BA8187673@autox.team.net><002401c8bf83$12f905f0$53997e4c@HP>
	<02ee01c8bf8e$e4d25530$6801a8c0@shop>
	<003b01c8bf94$fb366450$53997e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <050f01c8bf9e$95c17240$6801a8c0@shop>

<<He is very close to a very large body of water though.>>

DEEP too, Larry<G>!!

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon May 26 19:10:42 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 20:10:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] that talk of engine pulling, and bolts
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F34D685710DF6136A87CBF3B8C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080527011041.DAGC22994.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hey all-

OK-after all this time, I never thought of looking down the tunnel since my
Sprite was sans-engine when I got it.  

After a local and proper parade, this blue MG taunted me to return home and
get my MKIII on the road...(yes your car was post '73, with an ugly electric
blue paint, but even the wife noticed as we sat at the light)  I digress
again...

I did the rear brakes today with no real problems yet other that one broken
line-that I think I can deal with considering.  The old cylinders just
crumbled by touch after 20+ years.  Parking brake still works after massive
cleaning.

 I observed the prop/drive was not attached to the rear. Never realized if
you reach down through the tunnel and it is not attached you can pull it
through the gear shift hole...

It has zerks, and there is new grease in the joints at least for now.

So in a round about question, should I use the original bolts for the rear
end, or get new ones?  I'd feel better not going though the bolts on the
boot/trunk/box that came with it for this one


thanks
Chris

66 MKIII

Brookfield,  WI

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon May 26 19:24:40 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:24:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise control, some do, some don't
Message-ID: <483B62D8.7020006@comcast.net>

Glen is one of the lucky ones, his Audiovox cruise control works.
Mine does not. Well is will work if I use the vacuum from 2 Sprites.
After 3 days of every possible combination of settings, and finding the 
noise suppressor DOA, I determined that I did not have enough manifold 
vacuum to make the thing work.
If I plugged the PCV system, I had enough vacuum but that means I would 
be out of oil by the time I reached a cruise speed so that is not an option.
In one of the hundreds of tests I decided to hook up the vacuum from 2 
Sprites to the unit on my 59. It sort of worked as well as I could test 
it parked in the garage. It held for a 1/2 a second or so and the dead 
noise suppressor may have been the cause of it dropping off right away.
So if anybody knows how to make more vacuum while keeping the PCV valve 
operational, please let me know.
Or if anybody wants to attempt a cruise control in their Sprite, let me 
know, all the wires are the correct length with Lucas bullet connectors 
soldered in place, it truely is a plug and play system for a Sprite now. 
I wish I could tell you it works like a charm but for me, it works like 
everything else made in china.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Jpp963 at aol.com  Mon May 26 19:26:31 2008
From: Jpp963 at aol.com (Jpp963 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:26:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Memorial Day
Message-ID: <d58.2171c7e3.356cbd47@aol.com>

I was at Lime Rock Park today.  Between races I was walking to the  paddock.  
As I'm walking I see a car driving towards me that I  don't immediately 
recognize.   As it gets closer I see that  it's John Fitch in his Fitch Phoenix.  
And he's wearing his WW2 Army  Air Corps uniform..........
 
Happy Memorial Day!!
 
Pete G.
CT



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Mon May 26 19:30:59 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:30:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ATTN: Michael Rowe, No LBC
Message-ID: <23676790.1211851860003.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99>

Contact me off list. I finally have some pics of the 73 but need your emaill address.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon May 26 20:11:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:11:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise control, some do, some don't
In-Reply-To: <483B62D8.7020006@comcast.net>
References: <483B62D8.7020006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805261911q15992369n5eef6a591851671c@mail.gmail.com>

Not enough vacuum??  That really *doesn't* suck, Frank!

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue May 27 06:40:07 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:40:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] building taped together - NO LBC
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40C0396C77E3EA97DD0C6FB8BD0@phx.gbl>

A video about Very High Bond tape where they show a building in Dubai that 
is taped together.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6l8nwu

From cbergst at yahoo.com  Tue May 27 09:16:39 2008
From: cbergst at yahoo.com (Clint Bergst)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 08:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] E-Type and AH 3000 programs on History International
Message-ID: <165537.77832.qm@web33807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 I just found listings for a program from 1999 called Voyages on the
 History International channel (271 on DirecTV).
 
 Today they have a 60 minute episode on the E-Type. DirecTV shows it
 airing at 1PM PACIFIC and again at 1AM Wed morning PDT. check your
 local listings.
 
 Then next Tuesday the 3rd a program on the AH 3000 at 7AM, 1PM, and
 Wed 1AM. Again, these are Pacific time from DirecTV.
 
 I've never seen these before. Anyone?
 
 Clint Bergst
 San Jose, CA
 60 Mk I

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue May 27 11:01:39 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:01:39 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] E-Type and AH 3000 programs on History International
Message-ID: <c5f.32032baf.356d9873@aol.com>

Will it be on BBC and if so do you have a GMT for that?
 
In a message dated 27/05/2008 16:20:40 GMT Daylight Time, cbergst at yahoo.com  
writes:

I just  found listings for a program from 1999 called Voyages on the
History  International channel (271 on DirecTV).

Today they have a 60 minute  episode on the E-Type. DirecTV shows it
airing at 1PM PACIFIC and again at  1AM Wed morning PDT. check your
local listings.

Then next Tuesday  the 3rd a program on the AH 3000 at 7AM, 1PM, and
Wed 1AM. Again, these are  Pacific time from DirecTV.

I've never seen these before.  Anyone?

Clint Bergst
San Jose, CA
60 Mk I

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue May 27 11:45:04 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:45:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs?
Message-ID: <2e68a6fccaa5f0aa1b8a.20080527104504.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>


From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue May 27 11:46:28 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:46:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs? II
Message-ID: <14c10a31ff8a4a360a48530a.20080527104628.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Let me try that agian.  Anyone know what application for a set of carbs
AUD 8114?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Tue May 27 12:41:06 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:41:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed in NC sighted!
Message-ID: <483C55C2.4010202@verizon.net>

Hey kate and all,

Bumped (NOT literally) into Ed "in NC" Conan today right here
in Durham. Long time no see and all. Looking good,
no probs with our NC recent storms.

chuck

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue May 27 13:02:22 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 12:02:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed in NC sighted!
In-Reply-To: <483C55C2.4010202@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C461A8CE.16462%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The weather's nice here in Chapel Hill. Two more weeks and I can go home.
BZ

> Bumped (NOT literally) into Ed "in NC" Conan today right here
> in Durham. Long time no see and all. Looking good,
> no probs with our NC recent storms.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue May 27 13:44:48 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 14:44:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Photos
Message-ID: <91353F43205042C4956C1F5D6982F459@NilesAD.von.gov>

I would like to dedicate a month of the 2009 calendar to the Sprite Jubilee 
in PA (as well as a page for the LotO event and one for Gaydon). Does anyone 
have some great photos of the event that they would like to email to 
spridget.calendar at gmail.com ? The higher the resolution, the better for me.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From RampantNM at aol.com  Tue May 27 13:57:51 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:57:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Business
Message-ID: <c0c.3746cbff.356dc1bf@aol.com>

Bud Osborne wrote:

My  reason for canceling has to
do with current economic conditions, which,  right now, are so good that
I've just been buried with work, with no let-up  in sight.
 
Impossible Bud, the horrible Bushitler recession, along with his mortgage  
debacle, and deficient spending, exacerbated by global warmi....er ...climate  
change, would simply not allow your business to be good.  You will have to  
wait until next year for good business, so you may as well go now.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 5/23/2008 12:12:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

My  reason for canceling has to
do with current economic conditions, which,  right now, are so good that
I've just been buried with work, with no let-up  in sight.





**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue May 27 13:58:24 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 15:58:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Photos
Message-ID: <c07.37cff82d.356dc1e0@aol.com>

Hi David,
 
Missed you at the meet this year.  I'm expecting to get one film  tomorrow 
and another film in a  couple of weeks.
 
However, I think a photo taken by someone other than myself captured the  
spirit of Spridget ownership.  
 
The image is of Walt working on his Bugeye on the car park in the pouring  
rain while I held a union jack umbrella over him to keep him dry.  
 
The problem was a dud condenser and once swapped for a good one the car  
started first time.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 27/05/2008 20:45:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

I would  like to dedicate a month of the 2009 calendar to the Sprite Jubilee 
in PA  (as well as a page for the LotO event and one for Gaydon). Does anyone 
 
have some great photos of the event that they would like to email to  
spridget.calendar at gmail.com ? The higher the resolution, the better for  me.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue May 27 14:12:48 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:12:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] top down, comfort up
Message-ID: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Today I drove to work with the side curtains on and the wind blocker mounted
in the rollbar.  WOW!  Almost no cockpit wind, much quieter.  I think this is
how I'll be driving to Missouri.  As I got close to home at lunch, I thought
"maybe....?" and turned on the radio.  I could actually hear it and tell what
song was playing.  The side curtains alone weren't much difference, and the
wind-blocker wasn't the total answer, but the combo is NICE!

This weekend I mapped out my route and determined daily mileage amounts and
possible stopovers, fixed the windshield wipers, rebuilt the weepy heater
valve ($0.59 #5 O-ring from ACE) and replaced the missing felt in the driver's
sidecurtain.  I've just about run out of things to do and still have weeks to
go.  Aarrggh!

Glen Byrns

From RampantNM at aol.com  Tue May 27 14:54:37 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:54:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Harbour Freight
Message-ID: <cf4.2c9fdbe3.356dcf0d@aol.com>

They sell on-line too....www.harborfreight.com
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 5/26/2008 12:08:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Hello,

looks like the consensus so far is  Harbor Fright.. now if i can
find one of their  stores... none around these parts. .. maybe
Tthere's  one down in Portland,  somewhere........






**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From conan at intrex.net  Tue May 27 15:30:56 2008
From: conan at intrex.net (conan)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:30:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ed in NC
Message-ID: <200805271730.AA2960982230@intrex.net>

  Rumor has it some Sweet Young Thing was looking for me via the list...

     HERE I AM!!!!   :-) :-) :-)

  I'm still around, but I have so many other things going on that I only haphazardly look in on the list now and again once in a while ...maybe.   :-)
  Send me an e-mule (cain't afford Pony Express) directly if you want to. :-) :-) :-)
 Ed (still) in NC

--
  "It followed me home, Mother.  Can I eat it?" - Ririt
--

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 27 15:32:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:32:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] top down, comfort up
In-Reply-To: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805271432l6cd58616l8f385da5071feb36@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> <snip>



> I've just about run out of things to do and still have weeks to
> go.  Aarrggh!

<snip>

Hey Glen,  come on out to Kansas now and you can help get my Midget back on
the road while I'm up to my proverbial in pulling everything together for
Lake of the Ozarks    ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 27 16:28:35 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:28:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I've made at least some progress.  I am now running a ventilated
system with the crankcase vented into a 16oz Coors Light can. It runs pretty
well once I re-set the timing. I have an HIF44 carb made to be used on an MG
Metro turbo. It has no port for pollution control!
Another PO thing I guess...

When I had the engine down over the winter, I installed a Pertronics Ignitor
and one of Jeff Schlemmer's timing mark relocation kits on it. When I
started it, it was hunting so I disconnected the vacuum line to the dizzy
and put the timing light on it.

Interesting!  It showed about 10 deg BTDC and needed to be *advanced* to
smooth out the idle!  Jeff's kit now shows it idling at around 30 deg BTDC
and idling like a kitten purring. I will have to crawl under the damned
thing and see what the old timing marks show. Either I didn't get Jeff's kit
installed correctly, or the Pertronics Ignitor changed things!  Anyone else
seen anything like this?

Next step is to bleed the damned clutch again.  I can't find another cap for
the plastic repop clutch master. I want to use a pressure bleed on it but
will need another cap to make a pressure cap.  Anyone know where I can get
one?  Also, I cannot for the life of me recall what size wrench to use on
the bleeder valve. No way my 280 lb body gets into the footwell far enough
to see the damned thing and I've tried putting box end wrenches on it by
feel to no avail. I've tried a 3/8 box and a 7/16 box but can't get either
of them to go on enough to turn the bleeder. What size is that damned thing,
anyway?

Does anyone know where I can hire a skinny midget to get in there and open
that valve?   ;-)

Only a few other things left to do with it and its ready for Lake of the
Ozarks....

Cheers!!
Jim

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 27 17:51:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:51:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
References: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <024701c8c054$98fcf680$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Anyone else seen anything like this?>>

Yep.  Called ONE tooth of when dizzy re-installed.

<<Next step is to bleed the damned clutch again.>>

I've got one of the plastic resv ones and I'll measure the cap a little later.  If you DO use pressure, make sure no more than 8-10PSI, Jim.

I might also recommend Brad's "gravity method" with 1 drip at a time!!

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue May 27 17:38:12 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 16:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
Message-ID: <200805272338.m4RNcCSg015007@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>

Even if the dizzy drive gear is dead on, if the trigger point of the
petronix sensor isn't exactly where the original points trigger position
was, the difference shows up with a timing light.  Considering the desired
relationship of the rotor and the plugwire post across the range of desred
timing, you might want to shift the plate mounted sensor for the petronix
to ensure triggering at the correct point in the rotor/post relationship.

Glen

> When I had the engine down over the winter, I installed a Pertronics
> Ignitor
> and one of Jeff Schlemmer's timing mark relocation kits on it. When I
> started it, it was hunting so I disconnected the vacuum line to the dizzy
> and put the timing light on it.
> 
> Interesting!  It showed about 10 deg BTDC and needed to be *advanced* to
> smooth out the idle!  Jeff's kit now shows it idling at around 30 deg
> BTDC
> and idling like a kitten purring. I will have to crawl under the damned
> thing and see what the old timing marks show. Either I didn't get Jeff's

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue May 27 18:49:45 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:49:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
References: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <023f01c8c05c$b99fc900$6501a8c0@refisk>

Probably will make that diet beer taste better.  :-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Midget/Sprite" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...


> Well, I've made at least some progress.  I am now running a ventilated
> system with the crankcase vented into a 16oz Coors Light 
> can............... 

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Tue May 27 18:51:25 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach question
Message-ID: <50865.72.71.217.71.1211935885.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Time to tacle the next thing on the 66 Sprite "to do" list.
My tachometer usually doesn't work at all. Sometimes it just bounces
around from one rpm to another with no apparent relationship to
acceleration. What do I look for to attempt a remedy.
Thanks
Dick B. in NH

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 27 19:00:02 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:00:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise control, some do, some don't
In-Reply-To: <483B62D8.7020006@comcast.net>
References: <483B62D8.7020006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <483CAE92.8040702@comcast.net>

I think I solved my no cruise problem.
I called their tech support, the guy I spoke to was an MG owner in his 
past life. Anyway, he told me to ground the brake light switch lead and 
test it. It worked, not for long but it worked. Now I just have to work 
out the bugs and get to a highway with no traffic lights.
Apparently with brit car stop lamps grounding via the body, the cruise 
measures the resistance and thinks the brake lamps are on. So it works 
but it does not shut off when I hit the brakes.
I will run ground wires directly to the tail lamps.
My brake lights work fine but when I grounded the brake light wire, the 
cruise worked.
I will test it more tomorrow.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue May 27 18:58:19 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:58:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Sprite Tee-Shirts Available
Message-ID: <be7.2a3acb07.356e082b@aol.com>

Since I did not sell these out during Sprite Jubilee, I still  have Bugeye 
Sprite tee-shirts available @$20 each plus shipping  in sizes M/L/XL/XXL, in 
both red and blue. On the front of the shirt they  have a 3/4 front view of the 
car in black and white with the Sprite arrow logo.  If you are interested, I 
can email pictures.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 27 19:11:42 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:11:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] top down, comfort up
In-Reply-To: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <483CB14E.7010600@comcast.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:
>   I've just about run out of things to do and still have weeks to
> go.  Aarrggh!
>   
Well you can tweak my cruise control and see what's leaking on the right 
rear wheel of the 59.
The 67 needs a shock swapped back to the rebuilt one (long story) the 
"one off the shelf" is leaking but it was a core to start with. I have 
the good one.
Don't even get me started on a wind breaker ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 27 19:15:13 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:15:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <483CB221.5020500@comcast.net>

I have noticed that the Pertronix moves the timing.
As for the clutch slave, a 7/16 wrench fits if it is an original, some 
replacements have gone metric, so 10mm will fit them.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 27 19:17:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:17:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Sprite Tee-Shirts Available
In-Reply-To: <be7.2a3acb07.356e082b@aol.com>
References: <be7.2a3acb07.356e082b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <483CB2BA.7090300@comcast.net>

Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> Since I did not sell these out during Sprite Jubilee, I still  have Bugeye 
> Sprite tee-shirts available 

I bought one off Howard at the meet, they are really nice shirts.
Sort of one of the tee shirts you MUST have.
After all, I did not buy a Sprite 50 tee shirt but I certainly bought 
one of Howards.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue May 27 19:23:11 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:23:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach question
In-Reply-To: <50865.72.71.217.71.1211935885.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50865.72.71.217.71.1211935885.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <483CB3FF.1020503@comcast.net>

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
> My tachometer usually doesn't work at all. 
Dick
Run a clean, separate ground to the tach housing, that little ground on 
the knurled nut just doesn't cut it after 40 years.
If it is really off on the rpms, it may need to be adjusted.
Do this by removing the tach from the dash, remove the guts from the 
housing, hook up the wires and a GOOD GROUND, you will see a red, 
yellow, or white adjustable potentiometer, looks like a little capacitor 
with a slotted spot for a screw driver.
S l o w l y turn that slot with a screw driver and set it using a 
tach/dwell gauge or if you want it to reed 8,000 rpms at 45 mph, you can 
do that too ;) A trick is to drill a 3/8 hole in the back of the housing 
in line with the adj pot and now you can fiddle with it while it's 
installed in the car.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 27 19:44:12 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:44:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
In-Reply-To: <200805272338.m4RNcCSg015007@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200805272338.m4RNcCSg015007@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805271844x4ebe8f48xf0636178b41645e0@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Glen.  I'll have to check to see of the Pertronix sensor is
adjustable...  It runs pretty sweet now... better than it ever did, but I've
also turned the dizzy as far clockwise as I can...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> Even if the dizzy drive gear is dead on, if the trigger point of the
> petronix sensor isn't exactly where the original points trigger position
> was, the difference shows up with a timing light.  Considering the desired
> relationship of the rotor and the plugwire post across the range of desred
> timing, you might want to shift the plate mounted sensor for the petronix
> to ensure triggering at the correct point in the rotor/post relationship.
>
> Glen
>
> > When I had the engine down over the winter, I installed a Pertronics
> > Ignitor
> > and one of Jeff Schlemmer's timing mark relocation kits on it. When I
> > started it, it was hunting so I disconnected the vacuum line to the dizzy
> > and put the timing light on it.
> >
> > Interesting!  It showed about 10 deg BTDC and needed to be *advanced* to
> > smooth out the idle!  Jeff's kit now shows it idling at around 30 deg
> > BTDC
> > and idling like a kitten purring. I will have to crawl under the damned
> > thing and see what the old timing marks show. Either I didn't get Jeff's
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Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue May 27 19:46:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:46:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
In-Reply-To: <483CB221.5020500@comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com>
	<483CB221.5020500@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805271846w23d3dcasd6a8d4bebebd4b87@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, Frank...   You da man!  This is a Victoria British slave that I
installed 3 years ago so may be a 10mm. Now tell me how to get to the damned
thing!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
wrote:

> I have noticed that the Pertronix moves the timing.
> As for the clutch slave, a 7/16 wrench fits if it is an original, some
> replacements have gone metric, so 10mm will fit them.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue May 27 19:47:17 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:47:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach question
In-Reply-To: <50865.72.71.217.71.1211935885.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50865.72.71.217.71.1211935885.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <831269371.20080527184717@pacifier.com>

Hello Lindalnhvt,

     the best place to look if for another tach!...

     really, i went thru 3 or four before i got on that's almost
     good.... mine that works is heat sensitive.. that is, i reads one
     rpm/mph in the morning, and a different one in the afternoon,
     or when its warmed up.... that little hole that Frank C.
     mentions.. i sometimes actually adjust as i drive with a little
     screwdriver under the dash... even been thinking of a spot of
     super glue on it...but i'd probably be better off actually
     sending the tach out to get it fixed..........

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "There's nothing to stop me putting things in tins," said Tom cannily.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue May 27 19:56:07 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:56:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Photos
In-Reply-To: <91353F43205042C4956C1F5D6982F459@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <91353F43205042C4956C1F5D6982F459@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <E0017300-84DC-4229-A048-073E0AE48A4F@phillymgclub.com>

I have some photos of the autocross, gimme a couple days and I'll send  
them to you.

Larry


On May 27, 2008, at 3:44 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> I would like to dedicate a month of the 2009 calendar to the Sprite  
> Jubilee
> in PA (as well as a page for the LotO event and one for Gaydon).  
> Does anyone
> have some great photos of the event that they would like to email to
> spridget.calendar at gmail.com ? The higher the resolution, the better  
> for me.
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
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lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue May 27 21:03:04 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:03:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
References: <200805272338.m4RNcCSg015007@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>
	<43840a7e0805271844x4ebe8f48xf0636178b41645e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011601c8c06f$597805c0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I've also turned the dizzy as far clockwise as I can...>>

Back to ONE tooth off, Jim!!  I can't imagine the Pertronics changing it THAT much.  Some sure and then add the one tooth........

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue May 27 20:39:24 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:39:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
References: <43840a7e0805271528g6333b9c7kd99c4383e7c8d975@mail.gmail.com><483CB221.5020500@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0805271846w23d3dcasd6a8d4bebebd4b87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101c8c06c$0b474440$6401a8c0@personal>

I get it from underneath, never a problem.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Midget/Sprite" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...


> Thanks, Frank...   You da man!  This is a Victoria British slave that I
> installed 3 years ago so may be a 10mm. Now tell me how to get to the 
> damned
> thing!   ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 8:15 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have noticed that the Pertronix moves the timing.
>> As for the clutch slave, a 7/16 wrench fits if it is an original, some
>> replacements have gone metric, so 10mm will fit them.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 
> 2008!!
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue May 27 21:47:54 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 20:47:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] top down, comfort up
In-Reply-To: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <11B1F99B517A4ED99D882972468D5000@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <28e54a62856a923b8a61482a.20080527204754.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Glen,
     When do you find time for your job?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Glen Byrns
> Today I drove to work with the side curtains on and the wind blocker
> mounted
> in the rollbar.  WOW!  Almost no cockpit wind, much quieter.  I think this
> is
> how I'll be driving to Missouri.  As I got close to home at lunch, I
> thought
> "maybe....?" and turned on the radio.  I could actually hear it and tell
> what
> song was playing.  The side curtains alone weren't much difference, and
> the
> wind-blocker wasn't the total answer, but the combo is NICE!
>
> This weekend I mapped out my route and determined daily mileage amounts
> and
> possible stopovers, fixed the windshield wipers, rebuilt the weepy heater
> valve ($0.59 #5 O-ring from ACE) and replaced the missing felt in the
> driver's
> sidecurtain.  I've just about run out of things to do and still have weeks
> to
> go.  Aarrggh!
>
> Glen Byrns
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From hal at katemuir.com  Tue May 27 22:43:53 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 21:43:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ww midget fs in central CA, NFS, yadayadayada
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFAEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/695525696.html
$900. Not bad, eh?

From hal at katemuir.com  Tue May 27 23:12:04 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 22:12:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Anybody ever seen and/or used these?
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=45742

Hal

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed May 28 06:48:44 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:48:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <483D54AC.80207@lehigh.edu>

Hal Faulkner wrote:
> Anybody ever seen and/or used these?
> http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=45742
>
> Hal
>   
Yes I bought a pair when they first started selling them. They are well 
made made, heavy, and work pretty well for the price.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From tinydog at snet.net  Wed May 28 08:05:03 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:05:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <052820081405.7282.483D668F0001261000001C7222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:
Never seen them before but string is $139.99 less.
 -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>: --------------


> Anybody ever seen and/or used these?
> http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=45742
> 
> Hal   

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed May 28 08:37:51 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:37:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <052820081405.7282.483D668F0001261000001C7222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <052820081405.7282.483D668F0001261000001C7222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <483D6E3F.4080404@lehigh.edu>

tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>  tinydog sez:
> Never seen them before but string is $139.99 less.
>  -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>: --------------
>
>
>   
They were $59.99 for the pair when they first appeared. Yes string is 
cheap and straight when taught, but you can't measure caster with 
string. They made my formula vee alignments much more accurate by 
helping settle out the rear camber consistenly, and allow me to gauge 
the results when experimenting with varying amounts of ackerman 
steering. You are correct that you don't need these to set toe on a 
Spridget.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 28 08:54:53 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:54:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
Message-ID: <483D723D.7070003@smarc.net>

My dipstick tube is loose; when you pull the dipstick, the tube comes 
out with it. I see a few grooves on the tube - are there supposed to be 
o-rings on there? Is that what holds the tube in place (and prevents leaks)?

-- 

Marc

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed May 28 09:13:40 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 10:13:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <483D6E3F.4080404@lehigh.edu>
References: <052820081405.7282.483D668F0001261000001C7222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<483D6E3F.4080404@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <73077B93-D450-47D5-A9BF-3F16AB8B97BA@comcast.net>

Ok, since I am in the process of setting up my Formula S car (Which  
generally falls into the Formula V class) what numbers are you  
using?  Just curious..

Lester

On May 28, 2008, at 9:37 AM, John Caffrey wrote:

> tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>>  tinydog sez:
>> Never seen them before but string is $139.99 less.
>>  -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner"  
>> <hal at katemuir.com>: --------------
>>
>>
>>
> They were $59.99 for the pair when they first appeared. Yes string is
> cheap and straight when taught, but you can't measure caster with
> string. They made my formula vee alignments much more accurate by
> helping settle out the rear camber consistenly, and allow me to gauge
> the results when experimenting with varying amounts of ackerman
> steering. You are correct that you don't need these to set toe on a
> Spridget.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
> ___________________

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed May 28 09:15:04 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:15:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
Message-ID: <7471648.1211987704033.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have a 948 that has the dipstick without tube as stock.  Doesn't seem to have any leaks.

I have 1275s also and the tube is simply a press in piece.

Hope this helps,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
>Sent: May 28, 2008 10:54 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
>
>My dipstick tube is loose; when you pull the dipstick, the tube comes 
>out with it. I see a few grooves on the tube - are there supposed to be 
>o-rings on there? Is that what holds the tube in place (and prevents leaks)?
>
>-- 
>
>Marc


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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed May 28 09:22:21 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:22:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Progress on getting the Midget on the road...
Message-ID: <052820081522.12906.483D78AD0000F2060000326A2216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

I am skinny and was still cursing the designer of the slave.  I used a 100ml syringe and some tubing connected to the nipple and pulled on it till i got no bubbles out.  Took me about an hour.  I used a baking tray in the footwell to dispense the air /brakefluid combo and then got rid of the whole mess at one time
ryan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com> 

> Well, I've made at least some progress. I am now running a ventilated 
> system with the crankcase vented into a 16oz Coors Light can. It runs pretty 
> well once I re-set the timing. I have an HIF44 carb made to be used on an MG 
> Metro turbo. It has no port for pollution control! 
> Another PO thing I guess... 
> 
> When I had the engine down over the winter, I installed a Pertronics Ignitor 
> and one of Jeff Schlemmer's timing mark relocation kits on it. When I 
> started it, it was hunting so I disconnected the vacuum line to the dizzy 
> and put the timing light on it. 
> 
> Interesting! It showed about 10 deg BTDC and needed to be *advanced* to 
> smooth out the idle! Jeff's kit now shows it idling at around 30 deg BTDC 
> and idling like a kitten purring. I will have to crawl under the damned 
> thing and see what the old timing marks show. Either I didn't get Jeff's kit 
> installed correctly, or the Pertronics Ignitor changed things! Anyone else 
> seen anything like this? 
> 
> Next step is to bleed the damned clutch again. I can't find another cap for 
> the plastic repop clutch master. I want to use a pressure bleed on it but 
> will need another cap to make a pressure cap. Anyone know where I can get 
> one? Also, I cannot for the life of me recall what size wrench to use on 
> the bleeder valve. No way my 280 lb body gets into the footwell far enough 
> to see the damned thing and I've tried putting box end wrenches on it by 
> feel to no avail. I've tried a 3/8 box and a 7/16 box but can't get either 
> of them to go on enough to turn the bleeder. What size is that damned thing, 
> anyway? 
> 
> Does anyone know where I can hire a skinny midget to get in there and open 
> that valve? ;-) 
> 
> Only a few other things left to do with it and its ready for Lake of the 
> Ozarks.... 
> 
> Cheers!! 
> Jim 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!! 
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City 
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! 
> 
> For info and registration... 
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed May 28 10:15:33 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 09:15:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no new toy for now
Message-ID: <06E6C7474BDC4F8A8D3CBF9833AC9A84@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

The Morris fire truck in Reno was already sold by the time I saw the
craigslist ad, the Sebring bonnet MkIII still has clouded paperwork and I'm
bummed.  I really had the aquisition bug there, and couldn't scratch it.
After a couple of talks with the wife, we've decided that the only new LBC
that makes sense to add to the fleet is a Morris pickup or van.  So now the
search is narrowed down to just the three acceptable Moggies.  Pickup, van or
flatbed.  If any lister out there knows of such a beast in need of a new home
and at least a few months of restoration, please contact me.  Its great having
the enthusiastic approval of the wife, but not so good knowing that she has
already named the theoretical future aquisition "Percy" after her grandfather.
Frikkin swell..... but it ain't going on the plate!!!

I may go see the MkIII kid and offer $200 cash for the Sebring bonnet this
next weekend and see if he bites.  An extra nose would be cool whether I find
another Moggie or not.

Glen Byrns

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed May 28 10:18:56 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:18:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
In-Reply-To: <7471648.1211987704033.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <7471648.1211987704033.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <483D85F0.80708@verizon.net>

My 1275 has a dipstick tube that lately wants to cling to the
dipstick when I remove it. I can't see anything that wants to
retain it in the block. Is something missing??

chuck

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> I have a 948 that has the dipstick without tube as stock.  Doesn't seem to have any leaks.
>
> I have 1275s also and the tube is simply a press in piece.
>
> Hope this helps,

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed May 28 10:37:16 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <73077B93-D450-47D5-A9BF-3F16AB8B97BA@comcast.net>
References: <052820081405.7282.483D668F0001261000001C7222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<483D6E3F.4080404@lehigh.edu>
	<73077B93-D450-47D5-A9BF-3F16AB8B97BA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <483D8A3C.2030605@lehigh.edu>

Lester wrote:
> Ok, since I am in the process of setting up my Formula S car (Which 
> generally falls into the Formula V class) what numbers are you using?  
> Just curious..
>
> Lester
>
Lester,
Fomula S is a catch-all class, but I assume you're talking about a F1st 
with a 1600cc engine? Even they are different from a vee because of ball 
joint front axle beam, longer wheelbase, wider rear track, and different 
wheel offsets. Not everyone in vees runs the same settings either, and 
you have to find out what your car wants. On my car up front, I would 
use 5 deg. caster, 1-3/4 deg camber/wheel, and 1/8" total toe out w/ 
parallel steering, and in the rear, 1/32" toe in/wheel, zero roll steer 
or as close to that as possible, -6 deg total camber, and -1.5 deg total 
camber in droop. I would change front toe to adjust for a turn-in 
problem, and rear camber and droop to achieve balance.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed May 28 10:41:25 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:41:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
In-Reply-To: <483D85F0.80708@verizon.net>
References: <7471648.1211987704033.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<483D85F0.80708@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <483D8B35.7020607@lehigh.edu>

   1275  dipstick  tubes  sometimes break off in the block, so maybe only
   the  top  portion is coming out with the dipstick? A new tube will fit
   snugly in the block hole.
   John
   Fogelsville, PA
   chuck wrote:

My 1275 has a dipstick tube that lately wants to cling to the
dipstick when I remove it. I can't see anything that wants to
retain it in the block. Is something missing??

chuck

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

I have a 948 that has the dipstick without tube as stock.  Doesn't seem to have
 any leaks.

I have 1275s also and the tube is simply a press in piece.

Hope this helps,

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Wed May 28 11:06:13 2008
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 12:06:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] no new toy for now
In-Reply-To: <06E6C7474BDC4F8A8D3CBF9833AC9A84@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <20080528170621.235C81A98E9@mpls-qmqp-01.inet.qwest.net>

Glen:
If you need a pickup you may want to try this.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25485888 at N08/2521774047/in/set-7215760525464743
5/

Herb Miller 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hgmiller3=qwest.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Glen Byrns
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:16 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] no new toy for now

The Morris fire truck in Reno was already sold by the time I saw the
craigslist ad, the Sebring bonnet MkIII still has clouded paperwork and I'm
bummed.  I really had the aquisition bug there, and couldn't scratch it.
After a couple of talks with the wife, we've decided that the only new LBC
that makes sense to add to the fleet is a Morris pickup or van.  So now the
search is narrowed down to just the three acceptable Moggies.  Pickup, van
or flatbed.  If any lister out there knows of such a beast in need of a new
home and at least a few months of restoration, please contact me.  Its great
having the enthusiastic approval of the wife, but not so good knowing that
she has already named the theoretical future aquisition "Percy" after her
grandfather.
Frikkin swell..... but it ain't going on the plate!!!

I may go see the MkIII kid and offer $200 cash for the Sebring bonnet this
next weekend and see if he bites.  An extra nose would be cool whether I
find another Moggie or not.

Glen Byrns
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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Wed May 28 12:04:47 2008
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (James F Juhas)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:04:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs? II
In-Reply-To: <14c10a31ff8a4a360a48530a.20080527104628.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <14c10a31ff8a4a360a48530a.20080527104628.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <483D9EBF.8080607@snet.net>

Mike:  I have several books and have looked at several web site 
listings.  I find no reference to that number.  In fact, I didn't find 
anything that comes close.  Most AUD numbers seem to have only 3 digits, 
and I found nothing beginning with 8,000.

What SU version are these?  Size?

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> Let me try that agian.  Anyone know what application for a set of carbs
> AUD 8114?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed May 28 12:14:35 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 11:14:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs? II
In-Reply-To: <483D9EBF.8080607@snet.net>
References: <14c10a31ff8a4a360a48530a.20080527104628.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<483D9EBF.8080607@snet.net>
Message-ID: <004501c8c0ee$b0cddcd0$1b03f204@spider>

Might it be the number on top of the damper, on the plastic 'lid'? .bill

http://www.burlen.co.uk/partDetail.aspx?pump=
<http://www.burlen.co.uk/partDetail.aspx?pump=&partID=3004> &partID=3004

=============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of James F Juhas
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:05 AM
To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs? II

 

Mike:  I have several books and have looked at several web site 

listings.  I find no reference to that number.  In fact, I didn't find 

anything that comes close.  Most AUD numbers seem to have only 3 digits, 

and I found nothing beginning with 8,000.

 

What SU version are these?  Size?

 

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

> Let me try that agian.  Anyone know what application for a set of carbs

> AUD 8114?

> Mike MacLean

> 60 Sprite

> 56 BN2

_______________________________________________

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed May 28 12:53:47 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:53:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
Message-ID: <c64.26c54a05.356f043b@aol.com>

Are new dip stick tubes available?  Also there are at least 2 types of  tube 
and 2 or types of stick.
 
In a message dated 28/05/2008 17:42:53 GMT Daylight Time, jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  
writes:

A new  tube will fit
snugly in the block  hole.

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed May 28 13:19:17 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:19:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
In-Reply-To: <c64.26c54a05.356f043b@aol.com>
References: <c64.26c54a05.356f043b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <483DB035.2000703@lehigh.edu>

   Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:

   Are new dip stick tubes available?  Also there are at least 2 types of
   tube and 2 or types of stick.

   In   a   message   dated   28/05/2008   17:42:53  GMT  Daylight  Time,
   jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU writes:

     A new tube will fit
        snugly in the block hole.

   Hi Daniel,
   Yes Moss 451-430 is the dipstick tube for 1098-1275.
   John
   Fogelsville, PA

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed May 28 13:45:02 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:45:02 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
Message-ID: <bed.23e88bf4.356f103e@aol.com>

The factory part number is 12G 107 which looks to be the plastic  tube.  
However, later engines have a steel tube for which I'm not able to  find a part 
number though clearly it's different.  The dipsticks are  specific to each type 
of tube and if you get it wrong then you get oil out of  the dipstick hole.  
US cars may be different again and had a dipstick with  a 45 degree bend on it 
while UK cars were generally straight.
 
I'd be interested in a steel tube if anyone is ever scrapping a block with  
one in it.
 
regards
 
 
Daniel
 
In a message dated 28/05/2008 20:19:31 GMT Daylight Time, jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  
writes:

_Weslake1330 at aol.com_ (mailto:Weslake1330 at aol.com)  wrote:  
 
Are new dip stick tubes available?  Also there are at least 2  types of tube 
and 2 or types of stick.
 
In a message dated 28/05/2008 17:42:53 GMT Daylight Time, _jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU_ 
(mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU)  writes:

A  new tube will fit
snugly in the block  hole.




Hi Daniel,
Yes Moss 451-430 is the  dipstick tube for 1098-1275.
John
Fogelsville,  PA

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed May 28 14:16:21 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:16:21 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs? II
In-Reply-To: <483D9EBF.8080607@snet.net>
Message-ID: <002e01c8c0ff$b29b6120$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Mike,

Where are you reading that number?  AUC 8114 is a code for a damper as used
on the MGB and Midget.
I cannopt find an AUD 8114

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of James F Juhas
Sent: 28 May 2008 19:05
To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs? II


Mike:  I have several books and have looked at several web site
listings.  I find no reference to that number.  In fact, I didn't find
anything that comes close.  Most AUD numbers seem to have only 3 digits,
and I found nothing beginning with 8,000.

What SU version are these?  Size?

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> Let me try that agian.  Anyone know what application for a set of carbs
> AUD 8114?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed May 28 16:40:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHCAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP03611E22C1018B0C63E690B8BC0@CEZ.ICE>

"help you asses"  They might want to stick another 's' on that.

SA RD

-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Faulkner

Anybody ever seen and/or used these?
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=45742

Hal

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed May 28 18:01:56 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:01:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
In-Reply-To: <483D8B35.7020607@lehigh.edu>
References: <7471648.1211987704033.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<483D85F0.80708@verizon.net> <483D8B35.7020607@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <483DF274.1050701@smarc.net>

Yep - took another look and it's apparently broken off... Good call...

Marc



John Caffrey wrote:
>    1275  dipstick  tubes  sometimes break off in the block, so maybe only
>    the  top  portion is coming out with the dipstick? A new tube will fit
>    snugly in the block hole.
>    John
>    Fogelsville, PA
>    chuck wrote:
>
> My 1275 has a dipstick tube that lately wants to cling to the
> dipstick when I remove it. I can't see anything that wants to
> retain it in the block. Is something missing??
>
> chuck

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed May 28 18:44:29 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 20:44:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dipstick tube
In-Reply-To: <483D723D.7070003@smarc.net>
References: <483D723D.7070003@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <483DFC6D.9060904@comcast.net>

Marc wrote:
> My dipstick tube is loose; 
A spot of silicone goop holds them in pretty good when they get loose.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed May 28 19:04:41 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 18:04:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alignment plates from Horrible Fright
In-Reply-To: <483D8A3C.2030605@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <658414.42090.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Somewhere in Wisconsin, Dave Grandeffo is
salivationg....

--- John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU> wrote:

> Lester wrote:
> > Ok, since I am in the process of setting up my
> Formula S car (Which 
> > generally falls into the Formula V class) what
> numbers are you using?  
> > Just curious..
> >
> > Lester
> >
> Lester,
> Fomula S is a catch-all class, but I assume you're
> talking about a F1st 
> with a 1600cc engine? Even they are different from a
> vee because of ball 
> joint front axle beam, longer wheelbase, wider rear
> track, and different 
> wheel offsets. Not everyone in vees runs the same
> settings either, and 
> you have to find out what your car wants. On my car
> up front, I would 
> use 5 deg. caster, 1-3/4 deg camber/wheel, and 1/8"
> total toe out w/ 
> parallel steering, and in the rear, 1/32" toe
> in/wheel, zero roll steer 
> or as close to that as possible, -6 deg total
> camber, and -1.5 deg total 
> camber in droop. I would change front toe to adjust
> for a turn-in 
> problem, and rear camber and droop to achieve
> balance.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA

From max at maxengland.com  Thu May 29 03:03:00 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:03:00 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
Message-ID: <62007.212.166.46.72.1212051780.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Hello everyone,

On my 1968 midget I have a motolita steering wheel but just managed to get
hold of the original wheel with chrome spokes. However I couldn't find the
horn push / MG badge that goes in the center. I only have the bare
steering wheel.

Looking on Moss and other websites I can't really understand what part
exactly goes in the center. Is it just a plastic badge, or is there also
an insert and spring for the horn (is there a horn push at all?)

Any enlightenment would be gladly appreciated. And of course if anyone
sells the parts I need, I'm interested :-)

Max, Belgium
www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget

From tinydog at snet.net  Thu May 29 06:18:05 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:18:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
In-Reply-To: <62007.212.166.46.72.1212051780.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>
Message-ID: <052920081218.18910.483E9EFD000A6ACB000049DE22230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:
This lister's website shows an excellent series ofpictures of the steps taken to restore a Sprite tub. If you'relistening, Michael Rowe, take a look at these pics. It shows what youneed to do, if you're still proceeding with the repair of your springhangers.
  -------------- Original message from "Maxime Slegers" <max at maxengland.com>: --------------


> Hello everyone,

> 
> Max, Belgium
> www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu May 29 07:03:57 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 09:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
In-Reply-To: <052920081218.18910.483E9EFD000A6ACB000049DE22230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <052920081218.18910.483E9EFD000A6ACB000049DE22230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <CCA6414D13C04BD59C3B8EDCD2DDD085@Home>

A remarkable site displaying spectacular workmanship.  Looking at any one 
thing he did is inspiring.  Looking at all of it is completely intimidating.

I bought a small MIG welder and yesterday got the gas tank and a pile of 
scrap metal from the recycling dump to  practice on.  When I figure out 
welding, perhaps I will gain confidence.  Meanwhile, I have tweaked my back 
tearing out rust and can't do much of anything.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

> tinydog sez:
> This lister's website shows an excellent series ofpictures of the steps 
> taken to restore a Sprite tub. If you'relistening, Michael Rowe, take a 
> look at these pics. It shows what youneed to do, if you're still 
> proceeding with the repair of your springhangers.

>> Max, Belgium
>> www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu May 29 09:28:07 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:28:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
In-Reply-To: <CCA6414D13C04BD59C3B8EDCD2DDD085@Home>
References: <052920081218.18910.483E9EFD000A6ACB000049DE22230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<CCA6414D13C04BD59C3B8EDCD2DDD085@Home>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$3j3s84@email.mtu.edu>

>I bought a small MIG welder and yesterday got the gas tank and a pile of
>scrap metal from the recycling dump to  practice on.

Mike,
This is obvious, but you have to see what you are welding to do a 
good job. This means if you are having trouble producing good welds 
it may be that you can't see the weld pool very well. Welding helmets 
can accept "cheater" lens just like the reading glasses you can buy 
from the drug store. Depending on your eyes, you may find them 
helpful. They come in a variety of strengths - just like the reading 
glasses. I find I do better without wearing my regular glasses. The 
bifocals always seem to be in the wrong location. I do use a +2 
cheater lens. If you try and weld in strong sun light that can be a 
problem as to much stray light gets behind your helmet. Seeing what 
you are doing is a big part of producing good welds.

Tim



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From max at maxengland.com  Thu May 29 09:40:29 2008
From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:40:29 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$3j3s84@email.mtu.edu>
References: <052920081218.18910.483E9EFD000A6ACB000049DE22230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<CCA6414D13C04BD59C3B8EDCD2DDD085@Home> <6t8mot$3j3s84@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <30919.212.166.46.72.1212075629.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Good nut and bolt restoration!

Max

>>I bought a small MIG welder and yesterday got the gas tank and a pile of
>>scrap metal from the recycling dump to  practice on.
>
> Mike,
> This is obvious, but you have to see what you are welding to do a
> good job. This means if you are having trouble producing good welds
> it may be that you can't see the weld pool very well. Welding helmets
> can accept "cheater" lens just like the reading glasses you can buy
> from the drug store. Depending on your eyes, you may find them
> helpful. They come in a variety of strengths - just like the reading
> glasses. I find I do better without wearing my regular glasses. The
> bifocals always seem to be in the wrong location. I do use a +2
> cheater lens. If you try and weld in strong sun light that can be a
> problem as to much stray light gets behind your helmet. Seeing what
> you are doing is a big part of producing good welds.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 29 10:35:25 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:35:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Registration at Lake of the Ozarks!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805290935y5801dd6erea27e9ff28530841@mail.gmail.com>

All,

If you are planning on coming to "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the
Ozarks June 26 through 29, you have until midnight this Sunday night to get
your registration fees paid at the $50 level!!  At midnight Sunday night the
registration fee goes to $75. Registrations will be accepted at the event
but only at the $75 level. We need head counts for the banquet...etc. too so
please register quickly if you can...
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu May 29 11:22:56 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 13:22:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Business
In-Reply-To: <c0c.3746cbff.356dc1bf@aol.com>
Message-ID: <014d01c8c1b0$a2f306e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Yes, I understand how hard it is to imagine, as we're being told by the
"elites" that we're suffering under the worst economy since The Great
Depression, yet my telephone keeps ringing with new
assignments.....................
Wow!  I can hardly WAIT until we get someone in office who REALLY
understands how to "grow the economy" ;)
'Til then, it's just me, my guns & God, I guess.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
RampantNM at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:58 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Business

Bud Osborne wrote:

My  reason for canceling has to
do with current economic conditions, which,  right now, are so good that
I've just been buried with work, with no let-up  in sight.
 
Impossible Bud, the horrible Bushitler recession, along with his
mortgage  
debacle, and deficient spending, exacerbated by global warmi....er
...climate  
change, would simply not allow your business to be good.  You will have
to  
wait until next year for good business, so you may as well go now.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners
Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,

perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for
experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and

adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 29 11:59:52 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 12:59:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Business
In-Reply-To: <014d01c8c1b0$a2f306e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <c0c.3746cbff.356dc1bf@aol.com>
	<014d01c8c1b0$a2f306e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805291059h20eecf5akb641b96768e23d20@mail.gmail.com>

Guys...

I know what you mean!  My undertaker friend in NYC says the same.  He
can hardly keep up with all the work from the window jumpers on Wall St.!!

;-)

The economy is in good shape per all the indicators I know of. The reason
so many think it is not is that the common person is being hit by the credit

crunch, escalating fuel costs, and the increases in food costs due to the
bone heads trying to make money on the useless ethanol craze.

Big business and the markets are doing fine, thank you. It is te little buy
who is feeling the pinch and it is he/she who do all the voting so the
politicos
are catering to him/her and screaming about economic disaster.

Cheers!!
Jim - who is sorry neither of you will be there next month.  I was hoping to

sweat over a bugeye with you - like we did at Buster's place, Robert....

On 5/29/08, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, I understand how hard it is to imagine, as we're being told by the
> "elites" that we're suffering under the worst economy since The Great
> Depression, yet my telephone keeps ringing with new
> assignments.....................
> Wow!  I can hardly WAIT until we get someone in office who REALLY
> understands how to "grow the economy" ;)
> 'Til then, it's just me, my guns & God, I guess.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz <spridgets-bounces%2Babcoz>=hky.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> RampantNM at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:58 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Business
>
> Bud Osborne wrote:
>
> My  reason for canceling has to
> do with current economic conditions, which,  right now, are so good that
> I've just been buried with work, with no let-up  in sight.
>
> Impossible Bud, the horrible Bushitler recession, along with his
> mortgage
> debacle, and deficient spending, exacerbated by global warmi....er
> ...climate
> change, would simply not allow your business to be good.  You will have
> to
> wait until next year for good business, so you may as well go now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners
> Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
>
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for
> experienced hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
>
> adjusted as
> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Thu May 29 12:52:11 2008
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:52:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0805291152s74c0eddve21650483376152f@mail.gmail.com>

Here is what I did:
This is a 63 Midget steering wheel push I adapted to my 12.5 inch wooden
wheel.
Horn is on the stalk so I just 86'd that part.

http://www.bastedo.net/midget/s_wheel/badge01.jpg

Rick Bastedo

------------------------------
Original Message:

Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:03:00 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Maxime Slegers" <max at maxengland.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel horn push
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Message-ID:
       <62007.212.166.46.72.1212051780.squirrel at webmail01.one.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

Hello everyone,

On my 1968 midget I have a motolita steering wheel but just managed to get
hold of the original wheel with chrome spokes. However I couldn't find the
horn push / MG badge that goes in the center. I only have the bare
steering wheel.

Looking on Moss and other websites I can't really understand what part
exactly goes in the center. Is it just a plastic badge, or is there also
an insert and spring for the horn (is there a horn push at all?)

Any enlightenment would be gladly appreciated. And of course if anyone
sells the parts I need, I'm interested :-)

Max, Belgium
www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget


------------------------------

From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Thu May 29 15:23:57 2008
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (Les Jones)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 17:23:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (non-MG) M-Benz Forum - Auto Parts Scammer
Message-ID: <483F1EED.8020507@croakingfrog.net>

Folks,

This is one incredible thread over at the Mercedes Benz Forum (mbworld.org)

Several members of the MB forum were scammed on auto parts .. and then 
MBer's banded together to track down the scammer ...  the thread is over 
40 pages right now... and the drama is heating up .. excellent read with 
great information.

http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=244457

LC
72 RWA
69 Donor

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 29 15:47:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:47:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Business
In-Reply-To: <2526781.1212086502015.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <2526781.1212086502015.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805291447r56265c4fwa0fa1154f0c4d3aa@mail.gmail.com>

Yup...  And they put fences around cemeteries because people are dying to
get in there.....  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> I have an undertaker friend that tells me that "people are dying to see
> him" ;^)).
>
> Mike C

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu May 29 19:17:16 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 21:17:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Generator bearing
Message-ID: <483F559C.1000205@comcast.net>

Old style (1958) tach drive generator. My one I assembled during the 
restoration last year had it's armature lathed down enough where it 
wiped out the new bronze bushing in the tail shaft and them proceeded to 
wipe out the front bearing.
So not wanting a .69 cent made in china bearing, I sourced a couple at 
my local bearing supply, made in Europe and more than .69 cents but 
still cheap at $5 each. So my problem is, does that bearing retainer 
plate have the concave facing the armature or does the concave face the 
bearing?
Yes it fits both ways.
This is the riveted bearing retainer, it has a concave side, which way 
does it go?
BTW, I picked up an NOS armature at one of the swap meets so the tail 
shaft fits the new bronze bushing as it should.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu May 29 19:39:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Going in circles....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>

It was an interesting late afternoon here.  I found a trick way to get to
the bleeder on the clutch slave and was able to bleed the clutch easily.
Jacked up the car on one side, took off the front wheel and reached in
through the little triangular hole, around the clutch line and slipped a
10mm onto the bleeder valve. Fairly easy, even with my big hands and arms.

A couple of days ago I had the thing running nicely with the new pertronix
ignitor but the the ignition timing running what appeard to be way
advanced.  Today, when I started it up, it ran really rough. I adjusted the
dizzy again and this time it settled in at almost exactly 5 deg BTDC!!
Running beautifully.

Sooooo.....   I took it out for a drive around the bypass - about 5 miles
and back into town from the north. Stopped and fueled it up. It started
right up again. Started for home and about a mile away, it died at a traffic
light and refused to start again. I rolled it into a parking spot and called
Carolyn to come get me with the tow bar.  There was a trail of oil from the
traffic light to where it stopped.  $hit!!

Guess I will pull the pertronix and put the points back in. Obviously there
is still too much crankcase pressure so I'll still have to work on that too.


Maybe I'd feel better about it if I go out and slam my fingers in the pickup
door....  At least it would take my mind off it...
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu May 29 21:36:31 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 23:36:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Photos
Message-ID: <003001c8c206$5c98f6e0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

I have some good, high resolution photos of the event.  I am still going
through them.
I will try to place them on a webpage this weekend.  I will post on the list
the url when it's ready.
You can then email me and indicate the ones you want in high res.

>From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Photos

>I would like to dedicate a month of the 2009 calendar to the Sprite Jubilee
>in PA (as well as a page for the LotO event and one for Gaydon). Does anyone
>have some great photos of the event that they would like to email to
>spridget.calendar at gmail.com ? The higher the resolution, the better for me.
>David Lieb
>1972 1960 1974 1973

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri May 30 01:23:25 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:23:25 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Going in circles....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c8c226$0d965180$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Jim,
Even with crancase breather problems you are most unlikely to get "a trail
of oil". drips and overnight puddles, yes, but not a continuous trail when
on the move.
 
My guess is that there is something else amiss. Check the rubber pressure
tube to the oil pressure gauge where it fits to the block attachment just
behind the dizzy.  My guess is that it is leaking around there - it may have
got knocked when adjusting the dizzy.
 
Guy
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: 30 May 2008 02:39
To: Spridgets; Midget/Sprite
Subject: [midgetsprite] Going in circles....



 Started for home and about a mile away, it died at a traffic
light and refused to start again. I rolled it into a parking spot and called
Carolyn to come get me with the tow bar. There was a trail of oil from the
traffic light to where it stopped. $hit!!

Guess I will pull the pertronix and put the points back in. Obviously there
is still too much crankcase pressure so I'll still have to work on that too.

Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!


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From smarc at smarc.net  Fri May 30 06:57:32 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 08:57:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
Message-ID: <483FF9BC.3030100@smarc.net>

Anyone going to OBCD??
http://www.chesapeakechaptermgtclub.com/OBCD_main.htm

-- 

Marc

From biffjones at verizon.net  Fri May 30 07:44:37 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:44:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
References: <483FF9BC.3030100@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <009701c8c25b$4f98b700$2f01a8c0@dell1>

Marc,

I plan on being there. However, the latest weather forecast now says rain ! 
Thought we left that in Pennsy-rain-ia at Sprite Jubilee.
Was planning on taking my Mk-II but may switch to my Bugeye.  The weather 
will determine which car I take.

See you there.

Biff Jones
'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye
'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite
http://sprites2.homestead.com/

From miniac7 at aol.com  Fri May 30 07:53:28 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:53:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <483FF9BC.3030100@smarc.net>
References: <483FF9BC.3030100@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <8CA9073AC37DD09-C1C-371B@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com>

I'll be there in a white Bugeye. Want me to bring your tee-shirts with me to save on shipping?

Howard Collins
Vuirginia Beach, VA.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 30 May 2008 8:57 am
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD



Anyone going to OBCD??
http://www.chesapeakechaptermgtclub.com/OBCD_main.htm

-- 

Marc
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http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From glenncummins at suddenlink.net  Fri May 30 08:07:45 2008
From: glenncummins at suddenlink.net (R. Glenn Cummins)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 09:07:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] List archives?
Message-ID: <001001c8c25e$88a3a700$28af6f4b@your4dacd0ea75>

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was off list for about a year.
Are the team.net archives still around?  There's nothing at the top or bottom
of list messages anymore, and Google isn't finding much.

Thanks,
Glenn
'74 Midget
Lubbock, TX

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri May 30 08:25:30 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:25:30 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
Message-ID: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Does anyone know if this is as big and as much fun as it used to be at Allen Pond Park in Bowie?  I use to really enjoy the flea market area and there was always a vast number of nice LBCs.  Does anyone else remember Bowie?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
>Sent: May 30, 2008 8:57 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
>
>Anyone going to OBCD??
>http://www.chesapeakechaptermgtclub.com/OBCD_main.htm
>
>-- 
>
>Marc


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From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri May 30 08:34:39 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 10:34:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] List archives?
References: <001001c8c25e$88a3a700$28af6f4b@your4dacd0ea75>
Message-ID: <008101c8c262$4ae36820$6701a8c0@1705n3>

http://www.team.net/archive/spridgets/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Glenn Cummins" <glenncummins at suddenlink.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:07 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] List archives?


> Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was off list for about a 
> year.
> Are the team.net archives still around?  There's nothing at the top or 
> bottom
> of list messages anymore, and Google isn't finding much.
>
> Thanks,
> Glenn
> '74 Midget
> Lubbock, TX 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri May 30 15:16:07 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>   Does anyone else remember Bowie?
>
>
>   
I remember Bowie, when they moved it I went once, no more.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From RampantNM at aol.com  Fri May 30 15:51:14 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 17:51:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: USA?? Top Gear
Message-ID: <be4.31a390b7.3571d0d2@aol.com>

Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


  
____________________________________
 From: RBHouston
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, RampantNM, BearTranserv,  
9issa at justbrits.com, txlillard at bop.gov
Sent: 5/30/2008 1:49:44 P.M.  Mountain Daylight Time
Subj: USA?? Top Gear



 
 
 
 
Top Gear could be U.S. bound with British hosts
 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6539111.stm) 

Is The Stig headed to the States? It  appears that the wildly popular 
automotive TV show, Top Gear, could be  heading to these shores (again). The BBC and 
The Sun newspaper have reported  that there are again plans to do a Top Gear 
U.S. version, but this time with  current hosts Jeremy Clarkson, Richard 
Hammond, and James May. Previous  attempts at doing an American Top Gear lost the 
magic when they tried to  replicate the show with different presenters. Although 
airing the current UK  show on Discovery has made some fans happy, getting 
the lads to cover more  American cars and feature more American celebs will 
probably draw an even  bigger American audience. To that end it is said that the 
U.S. show will be  just like the UK version, but will include more American 
cars, and U.S.  stars doing their darndest to beat The Stig.

The deal hasn't been  confirmed by BBC Worldwide, but there have apparently 
been talks. Top Gear,  in case you don't know, is an international Emmy winner, 
which recently  wrapped its most recent season with 8 million viewers tuning 
in for the  finale.

A new U.S. version sounds intriguing. We say bring it on.  Maybe if they're 
forced to drive more American cars on American roads in  American driving 
conditions, they'll start to understand why their current  negative impressions 
don't hold water on this side of the pond.  













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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri May 30 20:17:08 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:17:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
References: <483FF9BC.3030100@smarc.net>
	<8CA9073AC37DD09-C1C-371B@FWM-M27.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004901c8c2c4$6e30a740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

Howard, any resolution to your the lower end issue?

Dean.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <miniac7 at aol.com>
To: <smarc at smarc.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OBCD


> I'll be there in a white Bugeye. Want me to bring your tee-shirts with me 
> to save on shipping?
>
> Howard Collins
> Vuirginia Beach, VA.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri May 30 20:27:23 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 22:27:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White...
References: <be4.31a390b7.3571d0d2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000601c8c2c5$dc5234e0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

Hmmmm.   I'm sitting here staring at a test patch of Rustoleum's "Antique 
White" that I special ordered 4 quarts of from Lowes.
Boy, if it is'nt a dead ringer for BMC's Old English White.

How about that?

I'll be rolling on now... 

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri May 30 21:20:47 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 20:20:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] More photos from Sprite Spree 2008... (50 year
 anniversary celebration)
Message-ID: <4CD02220-3A65-45AB-8025-4FB8185C0994@gerardsgarage.com>

... courtesy of Biff Jones

http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Spree.htm

The page is also linked from my home page under featured articles.

Gerard

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 31 00:34:14 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 01:34:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Last chance!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0805302334q4e841767w97f84fbbb6b18a3c@mail.gmail.com>

Just a reminder to everyone...

Today (Saturday, May 31st) and tomorrow are the last two days to register
for the Lake of the Ozarks 50th anniversary event at the $50 level. As of
Monday the price goes to $75. To register online go to:
http://www.Sprite-MidgetCLub.org   or print and fill out the registration
form and get it postmarked today (Saturday).
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From nory1 at adelphia.net  Sat May 31 05:20:34 2008
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:20:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata content
Message-ID: <4C15B07F-4A0C-47FB-A048-30D826EECB3A@adelphia.net>

I know some of you have Miata's, so I'm hoping you might be able to  
answer a question or two....

What should one watch out for in buying a used Miata? (a 1997,  
specifically)?

It's in great shape, and has 56,000 miles, but the guy says he won't  
take less that $7800.  Edmund's says it's worth $6800, and the dealer  
won't give him more than $6000 for it on a trade.  Is an offer of  
$7200 unreasonable?

Please reply off-list, so the other Spridgeteers aren't inundated  
with Miata mail.  Thanks!

-Nory

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat May 31 05:25:08 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 07:25:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>

I remember Bowie, Wasn't he at the Alamo with Davy Crocket and Ed??


On May 30, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>>  Does anyone else remember Bowie?
>>
>>
>>
> I remember Bowie, when they moved it I went once, no more.
>
>
> --  
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 31 05:29:35 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 06:29:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>
	<D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <033501c8c311$9b089370$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OBCD


I remember Bowie, Wasn't he at the Alamo with Davy Crocket and Ed??


==================

Is that where Ed got his PTSD from?

Anon

From smarc at smarc.net  Sat May 31 09:47:24 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 11:47:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pilot bearing
Message-ID: <4841730C.9030209@smarc.net>

Could someone confirm (or correct) me on this - is Moss 330-475  ( 
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36481#19 ) 
the pilot bearing for the trans input shaft on my 1275?

-- 

Marc

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 31 13:00:16 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] pilot bearing
In-Reply-To: <4841730C.9030209@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <787021.48283.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Probably. You have to measure the crank if the old
bearing isn't there anymore. It depends on the crank,
not the gearbox.

--- Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:

> Could someone confirm (or correct) me on this - is
> Moss 330-475  ( 
>
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36481#19
> ) 
> the pilot bearing for the trans input shaft on my
> 1275?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 31 14:52:49 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>
	<D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4841BAA1.3000305@comcast.net>

Larry Macy wrote:
> I remember Bowie, Wasn't he at the Alamo with Davy Crocket and Ed??
>   
Larry, you have it all wrong, Bowie (Jim) made knives and Davey carried 
one of Jim Bowie's knives.
Or was that Daniel Boone?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat May 31 14:53:11 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 13:53:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <4841BAA1.3000305@comcast.net>
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><48406E97.8060406@comcast.net><D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>
	<4841BAA1.3000305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c8c360$57a3abc0$8403f204@spider>

A singer ...I remember a signer.   ...bill

 

==============================================

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 1:53 PM
To: Larry Macy
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OBCD

 

Larry Macy wrote:

> I remember Bowie; wasn't he at the Alamo with Davy Crocket and Ed??

>   

Larry, you have it all wrong, Bowie (Jim) made knives and Davey carried 

one of Jim Bowie's knives.

Or was that Daniel Boone?

 

-- 

Frank Clarici

Toms River, NJ

_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 31 14:58:53 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:58:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Sprite finds me
Message-ID: <4841BC0D.8030705@comcast.net>

Some guy stopped by today to ask me to get a 63 Sprite out of his yard. 
It's an HAN7 with disc brakes and a glass window hardtop. He has the 
seats in his attic, a new convertible top and the engine is at a machine 
shop in the next town. Looking at the timing gear and chain in the boot, 
the engine is a 1275 (I hope) the car even comes with 8 nice hubcaps 
andis only missing the doors. I just happen to have 1/2 dozen + side 
curtain doors but I may be parting this one out, it's rusty.
So if anybody is interested in a MKII Sprite hardtop, let me know. cheap!
And to think this car has been sitting for 18 years right here in my 
neighborhood. How come I never saw it? But the owner knows I have a few 
and asked if I would take it or he was calling the junk man. I took it! :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 31 15:08:48 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:08:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
In-Reply-To: <4841BAA1.3000305@comcast.net>
References: <11219829.1212157530604.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48406E97.8060406@comcast.net>
	<D7C074CE-5830-4A96-8815-98556EEA9ABF@phillymgclub.com>
	<4841BAA1.3000305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <411466962.20080531140848@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     Crockett and Bowie both died at the alamo..

     along with john Wayne, Fess Parker and Randy Travis

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "Do you call this a musical?" asked Les miserably.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat May 31 15:16:00 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 14:16:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Sprite finds me
In-Reply-To: <4841BC0D.8030705@comcast.net>
References: <4841BC0D.8030705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20080531141600.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

A little rust never stopped you.  And come to think of it, how come no
pictures?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Frank Clarici
> Some guy stopped by today to ask me to get a 63 Sprite out of his yard.
> It's an HAN7 with disc brakes and a glass window hardtop. He has the
> seats in his attic, a new convertible top and the engine is at a machine
> shop in the next town. Looking at the timing gear and chain in the boot,
> the engine is a 1275 (I hope) the car even comes with 8 nice hubcaps
> andis only missing the doors. I just happen to have 1/2 dozen + side
> curtain doors but I may be parting this one out, it's rusty.
> So if anybody is interested in a MKII Sprite hardtop, let me know. cheap!
> And to think this car has been sitting for 18 years right here in my
> neighborhood. How come I never saw it? But the owner knows I have a few
> and asked if I would take it or he was calling the junk man. I took it! :)
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat May 31 16:38:38 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:38:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] OBCD
Message-ID: <cf4.2d27f7a8.35732d6e@aol.com>

David Bowie and Pat Boone were both singers!
 
In a message dated 31/05/2008 21:49:35 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

one of  Jim Bowie's knives.
Or was that Daniel Boone?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 31 17:33:02 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:33:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Almost ready...
Message-ID: <1723737891.20080531163302@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      OK, new cap and rotor... check.
      timing set...............check
      fresh(ish) oil ..........check
      adjust valves........CRAP...I had to do it FOUR times.. that's
  what i get for not starting the order from the top of the list..
  thought i'd save time and start with whichever one was closed the
.......... .. but kept loosing my place switching from the adjust side
to the open side of the list .. back and forth.... started it up
and...

pu, pu, pu, PUH,..pu pu pu PUH, pu pu pu PUH...like a solid MISS..
tried to take a test drive... thutathutathutathutathuta.. around the
block and happy to get home ...

tried again... .. sounded the same... ... tried again.....

better...... test drive...

all seems fine except it SOUNDS off... engine seems to rev fine, but
SOUNDS........ funny.......

one more time...... start at the TOP of the list.. go in order.. take
time......

purrrrrrrrrrpurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrIIIIPPPPP>>>>>>....

sweet.... test drive and it pull like a freight train........total
coolness...

oh yeah....... i use a CLICK_ADJUST, not feelers.......


almost ready for

       LoTO....... FOUR THOUSAND MILES PLUS   of Spridget Adventure..



thanks for listening....
  

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "There's no bathroom in here," Tom said uncannily.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat May 31 20:28:03 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:28:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
Message-ID: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i was driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right leg from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from and how to stop it?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat May 31 20:42:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 19:42:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1493964718.20080531194247@pacifier.com>

Hello ryan,

     i took my neice for a ride a few years back... asked her how much
     she thought the car was worth.. .she named a figure in Ferrari
     territory.. i said no.. less than $5000.  she asked why so
     low....
     ..

     my reply...  "Because they LEAK"...

     "What do they leak?" she asked.

     I replied "Everything" if it's supposed to stay in, it leaks OUT,
     if it's supposed to stay out, it leaks IN...


     good luck 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "Are you homosexual?" Tom queried gaily.

From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com  Sat May 31 20:48:01 2008
From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:48:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002f01c8c391$e8f25910$e4aef904@D1PWFG61>

Just accept it as you got caught and the rain with your Spridget.  They are 
never dry when it rains.  You are thinking of a modern car.

Try a Lotus Seven some time in a rain storm.  The spridget then becomes a 
new Honda Civic with regards to being dry inside.

Mike C

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:28 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub


> Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am 
> in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i 
> was driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right 
> leg from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming 
> from and how to stop it?
> _______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat May 31 20:56:50 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:56:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48420FF2.2030106@comcast.net>

ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>  i had water pouring down my right leg from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from and how to stop it?
>
>   
If you find out, let the rest of us know.
Some leak more than others but we all get wet legs in the rain.
It's those leaks that hit your arm and drip off your elbow that really 
bug me ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com  Sat May 31 20:44:42 2008
From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 22:44:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
Message-ID: <9967121.1212288283557.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88>

 i had water pouring down my right leg from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from and how to stop it?

If you were in the passenger seat you should have rolled the window up...

Ed

From dwramsey at att.net  Sat May 31 21:23:59 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:23:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080601032409.AB497187657@autox.team.net>

A roll of paper towels in always good to stop up those little leaks also
helps keep the inside of the windscreen dry.
		Crash


Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am
in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i was
driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right leg
from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from
and how to stop it?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat May 31 21:30:31 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:30:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006701c8c397$d8c905b0$01fea8c0@C600>

My first guess would be the seal between the windscreen and the body.  I had
the same problem a few years ago, and replacing the seal fixed it.

Kate

> Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am
in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i was
driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right leg
from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from
and how to stop it?
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat May 31 21:35:50 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 20:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird....
Message-ID: <409669.29156.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK, last year I was at the Chicago Auto Show with
200,000 or so other people and the first person I see
inside the hall is Jon "Big Rig" Bauer of Team Thicko.
Tonight I was leaving a Brewers game (compliments of
my kid's Geography teacher for his getting perfect
scores on all 30 world map tests for the year!) with
42,000 other people and I hear "It's Ronald!". None
other than Team White Trash crew member / List guy
Larry "Dr. Fine" Daniels. Weird, but cool.

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat May 31 22:16:29 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:16:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird....
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Reminds me of the old shaggy dog story of the guy going to the ball park.
Gets in the ticket line and hears someone way up in the stands yell. "Hey
Ron!!"  Looks all over and sees no one he knows.  Going through the
turnstile again, "Hey Ron!!"   looks all over again to no avail, grabs a
beer and goes for his seat when way up in the top o the stand; "Hey Ron!!"
Fed up, he turns and shouts., "Dammit!  My name isn't Ron!!"

Cheers!!
Jim   -   See ya'll at Lake of the Ozarks!

On 5/31/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> OK, last year I was at the Chicago Auto Show with
> 200,000 or so other people and the first person I see
> inside the hall is Jon "Big Rig" Bauer of Team Thicko.
> Tonight I was leaving a Brewers game (compliments of
> my kid's Geography teacher for his getting perfect
> scores on all 30 world map tests for the year!) with
> 42,000 other people and I hear "It's Ronald!". None
> other than Team White Trash crew member / List guy
> Larry "Dr. Fine" Daniels. Weird, but cool.
>
> Ron
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat May 31 22:27:22 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:27:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
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I'd go for the easy fix, and try to replace the seals under the wiper wheel
box. Spray that bugger down good with some sort of lubricant OTHER than
WD-40. The aluminium body, and steel nut tend to gald together.

Brad

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:28 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am
> in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i was
> driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right leg
> from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from
> and how to stop it?
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat May 31 23:15:19 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 00:15:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird....
References: <409669.29156.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <037e01c8c3a6$7c64afe0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird....


OK, last year I was at the Chicago Auto Show with
200,000 or so other people and the first person I see
inside the hall is Jon "Big Rig" Bauer of Team Thicko.
Tonight I was leaving a Brewers game (compliments of
my kid's Geography teacher for his getting perfect
scores on all 30 world map tests for the year!) with
42,000 other people and I hear "It's Ronald!". None
other than Team White Trash crew member / List guy
Larry "Dr. Fine" Daniels. Weird, but cool.

Ron
_______________________________________________


It reminds me of one year when Carrie and I went to the Chicago Auto Show 
and we ran into 2 separate groups of people that I knew -- this is 150 miles 
from home.  Then, a couple of weeks later, we went to the Milwaukee Auto 
Show -- 80 miles from home -- and went to a restaurant after the show where 
we ran into another group that I knew.  If that wasn't bad enough, we went 
to Maui early the next year for a Super Bowl party and stopped at the 
airport in San Francisco for the next leg on the trip and I ran into 
somebody I knew there, too.

This was shortly after Carrie and I got together and she was looking at me 
like, "how in the hell do you know all these people?"

Just lucky, I guess.  Very fortunate.


LAD

P.S. Brewers beat the Astros tonight 4 to 1.  It was worth the trip to 
Milwaukee.

P.P.S.  Congratulations to Ron's kid, Bobby.  He has bypassed obstacles that 
would put many of us down to excel in scholastics.  Great job and more power 
to him.  He's a great kid.  His mom and dad should be, and are, proud.  Well 
done, Bobby!

From grday at btinternet.com  Sat May 31 02:36:56 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 09:36:56 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<484969BB.3090800@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <89F41DC730A4476DB5DAD715CBC6E523@TAIRS>

My wife broke a coil spring on her Audi TT and only commented in passing 
there was a funny noise when she went over a bump.  No real concern, she was 
worried more when the CD changer jammed.
It is the knowledge of what consequences can be that creates worry.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Rambour" <mikey at b2systems.com>
To: <kentmclean at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint


> kentmclean at comcast.net wrote:
>> Lester wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:

>>>
>>>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there
>>>> would be plenty of warning.
>>>>
>>> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we
>>> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person
>>> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny
>>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you're married? :)
>>
>>
>  To the WRONG woman ! My wife would know that noise was and change the
> CV herself and when I got home would most likely say something like I
> did the hard part, you start the BBQ.
>
>  No she is not available and she had no sisters :)