From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 04:38:15 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:38:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More photos from Sprite Spree 2008... (50 year
 anniversary celebration)
In-Reply-To: <4CD02220-3A65-45AB-8025-4FB8185C0994@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <4CD02220-3A65-45AB-8025-4FB8185C0994@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806010338k22bc3c94w7b54bb3ff0032847@mail.gmail.com>

How did I miss that Bugeye trailer, "I love it". Do you think I can pull it
with my motorcycle : )
Lin

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Gerard Chateauvieux <
pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com> wrote:

> ... courtesy of Biff Jones
>
> http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Spree.htm
>
> The page is also linked from my home page under featured articles.
>
> Gerard
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun  1 04:47:05 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 05:47:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<e98d88090805312127g5ae2dfb8o2a3bd39d590d7d1d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015301c8c3d4$d56f8dc0$0201a8c0@midget>

> I'd go for the easy fix, and try to replace the seals under the wiper 
> wheel
> box. Spray that bugger down good with some sort of lubricant OTHER than
> WD-40. The aluminium body, and steel nut tend to gald together.

Take a look under the bonnet at all the holes through the firewall AND all 
the holes near the master cylinders. Lots of places to leak. 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 05:19:23 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:19:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
Message-ID: <205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen some cars done like that with a combination of foam brush and foam
roller,
http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Poor-Mans-Paint-Job-or...-How-to-paint-your-c/

Enjoy,
Lin

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and a
> foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 05:21:24 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:21:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50 UK
In-Reply-To: <483A03A6.6070600@verizon.net>
References: <483A03A6.6070600@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430806010421g1232e62fxb650e575955969e5@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool!
Lin

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 8:26 PM, chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:

> OK, that did not work. Instead I have copied a couple of pix
> to my we site until I can sort this out:
>
> http://mysite.verizon.net/cciaffone/charl48/spridget50/spridget50.htm
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 05:26:23 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:26:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
In-Reply-To: <21435638.1211560870875.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21435638.1211560870875.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430806010426v116eab40vb9a79dc26ef3837b@mail.gmail.com>

Cool pics Frank,
I was there but in my daily driver. I have a bunch of pics too but having
trouble getting the Picasa to allow all to view. give time.
Lin

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:41 PM, charles christ <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> i was there with my saab race car.   my bugeye developed a coolant leak and
> i had little time to fix it.
>
> chuck.
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Miniac7 at aol.com
> >Sent: May 21, 2008 8:44 AM
> >To: spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com,
> bugeye at yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle & Sprite Jubilee / Who Went ?
> >
> >I was there from Saturday morning until 6PM last evening. Seeing as I
>  needed
> >to get back home by this morning however, I missed going to the  closing
> >banquet.
> >
> >I must say it was fantastic reconnecting with all the great  people this
> past
> >weekend, and meeting others (both on and off the  lists) for the first
> time.
> >Putting faces to screen names is always a  treat.
> >
> >We need to do this more often.
> >
> >Howard Collins
> >Virginia Beach, VA.
> >'60 AH Bugeye
> >
> >PS: After hawking Sprite tee shirts in the hotel lobby for a few hours
> >yesterday, I still have some left in all sizes. If anyone is interested. I
> can
> >email you pictures if you'd like to see what they look  like.
> >
> >
> >
> >**************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
> family
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From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 05:39:47 2008
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:39:47 -0300
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <62b83300806010439i188e5cd0md62cbec8940ab7b2@mail.gmail.com>

My down pour from under the dask was the gaskets for the wipers. Water
poured through there like there was no gasket. That slowed the downpour to a
drizzle.

On 5/31/08, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Okay took the car out this morning with the sun shining 2 hours later I am
> in home depot and the sky opens up.  Luckily i put the top up but when i was
> driving home in the total down pour i had water pouring down my right leg
> from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas as to where the water is coming from
> and how to stop it?
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun  1 06:34:03 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:34:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
Message-ID: <c6a.30b5a482.3573f13b@aol.com>

Here's a funny thing.  In my right hand drive Sprite it's only the  driver's 
leg that gets wet.  But, in your left hand drive cars it's still  only the 
driver's leg that gets wet.
 
In a message dated 01/06/2008 03:54:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

but we  all get wet legs in the rain.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  1 07:56:13 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 06:56:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
Message-ID: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

For the last couple of months, I have felt as if I had been kidnapped by
aliens from a distant galaxy, or fell off the edge of the earth with that
fool Columbus.   For that long, I have been without a computer, access to
e-mail or the Internet, or even to my own e-mail address book or telephone
numbers and addresses of relatives and friends.   Now that I have "returned"
to the real world, I have discovered about 5,000 e-mail messages that have
come in over the past few years, but which I have never seen!!!!  (I can
only guess how many that I sent were never received.)

 

My first computer problems started well over a year ago, how long ago, I am
not sure.  People were not receiving e-mail that I sent, and I was not
receiving e-mail they assured me they had sent.  Compounding the problem was
the fact that I was receiving e-mail misdirected to me from people I had
never heard of.   Worse, some friends were receiving "mischievous" e-mail
supposedly from me, but which I never sent.   Things continued to worsen,
and about a year ago I switched browsers and e-mail from old reliable
Netscape to Earthlink.   The problems continued.

 

Then there was the problem of disappearing non-Internet documents.
Documents that I knew I had saved, were not to be found (some I could
located by searching the "hidden" files.)

 

Finally, over a month ago, it was time to turn to the professionals, and
into the shopS it went.   But even they (four different ones) were stumped
by some of the issues.   At first, the problem revolved around finding ALL
of the "hidden" files that I did not want to lose.  No one, it seemed to
find a complete solution.   Finally, everyone agreed that I needed a new
computer.   So, I reluctantly dumped the American-made eMachine and bought a
top HP, although it was made in China!

 

In transferring everything over to the new HP, more problems were
encountered.   Moving the ALL the historic e-mail over was a major
roadblock.   Over the years, I have received mail through two browsers,
Netscape and Earthlink, and putting the on MS Outlook Express.   It took a
long time, but eventually a method was found and the job completed.

 

When the HP was returned to me, I was stunned by all of the e-mail that had
turned up.  Further, I had far more files to sort out now that many of the
"hidden" ones were appearing on my desktop.   How many years will it take me
to get it all sorted out?

 

What was the cause of it all?   A virus?  Spyware?  Who knows?   I know that
many can think of possible causes and repairs that might have been made.
But believe me, I have had pros looking at it, and even they were mystified.
My son-in-law is firmly convinced that there are some very real issues
related to "Faraday's Law" (whatever that is) in our house.   We have long
had trouble with electronics in parts of the house.

 

Buster Evans

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  1 09:28:26 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:28:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers  (NO LBC CONTENT)
In-Reply-To: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <149829505.20080601082826@pacifier.com>

Hello B-,



      While i'm no expert at this it SOUNDS like you had a trojan that
      had set up your computer to be a "zombie". The problem only went
      away when you replaced the old one......

      i don't know how paranoid you are about using,

      FIREWALL's... ANTI-VIRUS...ANTI-SPYWARE, ... etc,

      but... ..


      you should know that OUTLOOK and EXPLORER are integrated. What
      either of them knows, BOTH know, so if you have left open any
      entryway into your system, you have allowed access to your WHOLE
      system... to avoid this kind of problem, I use Firefox but NOT
      Thunderbird, as they are integrated.. i won't use OUTLOOK at
      all. It is a part of the system. .. i use .. THE BAT as my email
      program.. its nonstandard so not vulnerable to the kind of
      outside attack that mainstream programs are. .. Its also more
      powerful if you need that, easy to use, easy to set up,
      PLUS..i run multiple e-mail accounts... my regular, a gmail, a
      secondary, i think 5 altogether, and this program checks them
      all at once, ONE program to open to see everything. .. and when
      i send email out, it gets sent thru the proper account!..

      NFI     

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 10:19:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 11:19:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers (NO LBC CONTENT)
In-Reply-To: <149829505.20080601082826@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<149829505.20080601082826@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806010919o45cf7905neb05787cc8bdec35@mail.gmail.com>

I heartily concur with Bill!  I use Eudora (email) and Firefox (browser) on
our machines. I won't use Outlook at all. The reasoning for that being that
hackers most commonly write malware for the most common software packages in
order to do the most damage possible.  You're not any more immune to hacking
with the lesser known email clients, but it is less likely that a hacker
would write malware to attack them. In any case, if something comes in via
your email, a non-integrated setup sees to it that it is less likely to take
over your OS!

I haven't yet tried The Bat but intend to when I get some time....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/1/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> Hello B-,
>
>
>
>       While i'm no expert at this it SOUNDS like you had a trojan that
>       had set up your computer to be a "zombie". The problem only went
>       away when you replaced the old one......
>
>       i don't know how paranoid you are about using,
>
>       FIREWALL's... ANTI-VIRUS...ANTI-SPYWARE, ... etc,
>
>       but... ..
>
>
>       you should know that OUTLOOK and EXPLORER are integrated. What
>       either of them knows, BOTH know, so if you have left open any
>       entryway into your system, you have allowed access to your WHOLE
>       system... to avoid this kind of problem, I use Firefox but NOT
>       Thunderbird, as they are integrated.. i won't use OUTLOOK at
>       all. It is a part of the system. .. i use .. THE BAT as my email
>       program.. its nonstandard so not vulnerable to the kind of
>       outside attack that mainstream programs are. .. Its also more
>       powerful if you need that, easy to use, easy to set up,
>       PLUS..i run multiple e-mail accounts... my regular, a gmail, a
>       secondary, i think 5 altogether, and this program checks them
>       all at once, ONE program to open to see everything. .. and when
>       i send email out, it gets sent thru the proper account!..
>
>       NFI
>
> --
> Best regards,
>   Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>   C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jun  1 10:37:24 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:37:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <48420FF2.2030106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C4681E54.16719%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>   i had water pouring down my right leg from behind the dashboard.  Any ideas
> as to where the water is coming from and how to stop it?
Water is condensed from the aqueous vapor in the atmosphere and falls to
earth in drops.  I'm not sure you can stop it.
BZ

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sun Jun  1 10:46:24 2008
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:46:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts needed
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080601124254.04769008@littlebitcountry.com>

Looking for 2 half shafts. I twisted off my last spare and I don't 
want to pull any more out of the other axles I have here, they are 
for upcoming projects. So  if anyone has a pair they are willing to 
part with let me know.

While on the subject of rear ends what is the list recommendation for 
lubricant in the differential ?


Dave

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun  1 13:19:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:19:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<002f01c8c391$e8f25910$e4aef904@D1PWFG61>
Message-ID: <017401c8c41c$6d6abfe0$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Try a Lotus Seven some time in a rain storm.>>

UNDERSTATEMENT, Mike C.!!  BTDT  Buddy is Springpatch had a Super 7 and we were taking a BUNCH (16 or 18 IIRC) cars to a shopping mall for inside display for a week.  We DID have hoods erected expecting "showers".  Got deluge instead.  12 miles later at said mall I was the MOST DRENCHED!!!  Even the Frogeye folks were dryer<VBG>!!

<<The spridget then becomes a new Honda Civic with regards to being dry inside.>>

A "trueism" if I ever heard one!!  LOL

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun  1 13:23:09 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:23:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird....
References: <409669.29156.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <018401c8c41c$ed5a5df0$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Weird, but cool.>>

Ask Frank C. about HIS "event" at the PA LBC RAllye, Ron!!!  LOL

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun  1 13:09:33 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:09:33 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts needed
Message-ID: <cdb.3228f26a.35744ded@aol.com>

A good synthetic gear oil of the same viscosity as the non-synthetic gear  
oil recommended by the factory.
 
In a message dated 01/06/2008 18:05:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
lbc at littlebitcountry.com writes:

While on  the subject of rear ends what is the list recommendation for 
lubricant in  the differential ?

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun  1 13:10:55 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:10:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR
Message-ID: <d31.300a084c.35744e3f@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
Just been to PDLJMPR and it seems Les is looking for someone to take it  on.
 
Regards
 
W E S L A K E 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun  1 13:12:19 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:12:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rick Kaplan Sprite video
Message-ID: <c62.31460207.35744e93@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
PDLJMPR has a link to Rick Kaplan's video of Sprite Rush 03 which I don't  
think I've ever seen.  However, the link no longer works so does anyone  else 
have a good link or copy?
 
Thanks
 
W E S L A K E 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 13:13:37 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 15:13:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Out of gas & had to walk home
Message-ID: <205cef430806011213u5779c821vc8897b695ab7db1@mail.gmail.com>

My Sprite was running a little rough the last time I had her out but didn't
have time to see what the problem was. So today I took her for a spin around
the block and she sounded fine ( the gas gauge said 1/4 full) I had put in a
few gallons of gas the last time and the needle moved on the gauge but I was
suspecting a clogged tank or something similar. I took her a bit farther and
all of a sudden she acted as though the fuel pump wasn't working but I could
hear it on and it is fairly new. I gave Frank a call (thanks again Frank)
and as always he gave me the tips to determine if the pump worked and
.........no fuel. So I walked home and came back with the other car and gas
can although it''s too bad I forgot to tighten the hose to the carb as the
gas was poring out. She fired right up and I drover her home. But later that
day I went to move her into the garage and she started acting as though she
was running low again. I was reluctant to fill the tank to the top because
if my tank is dirty I would have to remove all the gas but there should be
enough gas now. Should I or can I put another fuel filter coming from the
gas line to the electric fuel pump to see it crud is in the tank? I didn't
have enough time to trouble shoot today but I'll check later in the week.
Linda
PS I am sending Anita the gal in WA who's Deep Pink Sprite is on the
Carlisle brochure my copy, she is thrilled & honored to have her Sprite on
it.

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Jun  1 16:06:15 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:06:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] Bloody
	computers
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV16AF94022A02307A41AEFD4B80@phx.gbl>

"During Buster Cruster...."

little slant-eyed yellow man speak with folked tongue

CapBob

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Jun  1 16:16:03 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:16:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Bloody computers
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV459143180B051578F703BD4B80@phx.gbl>

Ah, yes....

the age of electronics..... 

welcome back in any case, Busterino. :)

CapBob

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 16:25:52 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 17:25:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Going in circles....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806011525p66358bbeo8ca5f52bac37fc@mail.gmail.com>

I had some spare time today so went to the garage to work on the car.
Discovered the reason why it had died on me 3 days ago.  Wire off the coil.
  DUH!!   Put it back on and tried to start it up.  No dice.  Did the
Pertronix unit fry itself when the wire came loose?  Dunno.  Tomorrow I'll
remove it and put the points and condenser back in.

If I can get the damned thing running again it is going to LotO.  If I can't
get the damned crankcase pressure issue solved by then I'll tow it behind
the pickup and take along a bag of cat litter and a pooper scooper!  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> It was an interesting late afternoon here.  I found a trick way to get to
> the bleeder on the clutch slave and was able to bleed the clutch easily.
> Jacked up the car on one side, took off the front wheel and reached in
> through the little triangular hole, around the clutch line and slipped a
> 10mm onto the bleeder valve. Fairly easy, even with my big hands and arms.
>
> A couple of days ago I had the thing running nicely with the new pertronix
> ignitor but the the ignition timing running what appeard to be way
> advanced.  Today, when I started it up, it ran really rough. I adjusted the
> dizzy again and this time it settled in at almost exactly 5 deg BTDC!!
> Running beautifully.
>
> Sooooo.....   I took it out for a drive around the bypass - about 5 miles
> and back into town from the north. Stopped and fueled it up. It started
> right up again. Started for home and about a mile away, it died at a traffic
> light and refused to start again. I rolled it into a parking spot and called
> Carolyn to come get me with the tow bar.  There was a trail of oil from the
> traffic light to where it stopped.  $hit!!
>
> Guess I will pull the pertronix and put the points back in. Obviously there
> is still too much crankcase pressure so I'll still have to work on that too.
>
>
> Maybe I'd feel better about it if I go out and slam my fingers in the
> pickup door....  At least it would take my mind off it...
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>




-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  1 17:39:42 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 16:39:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  Going in circles....
In-Reply-To: <503410515.20080601163842@pacifier.com>
References: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0806011525p66358bbeo8ca5f52bac37fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<503410515.20080601163842@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1569974070.20080601163942@pacifier.com>

=
Hello Jim,

     I'm kinda hoping the whole LoTO thing turns into a giant kind of OSHIT
     meeting anyway... so much to learn... so much to get done.. so
     many people to help!.. Yes... BRING IT!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "This is a picture of my new house," said Tom, visibly moved.

===8<===========End of original message text===========



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 19:26:34 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:26:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

Here'a the link that sold me on the idea...
http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint


> I've seen some cars done like that with a combination of foam brush and 
> foam
> roller,
> http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Poor-Mans-Paint-Job-or...-How-to-paint-your-c/
>
> Enjoy,
> Lin
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and a
>> foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.
>>
>> Michael Rowe
>> '74 Midget
>> Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 19:47:28 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:47:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>

Darn the torpedoes.  Get a Mac, Firefox, and a Gmail account and
you'll wonder how you ever lived without any of them.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 19:50:54 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:50:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Going in circles....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806011525p66358bbeo8ca5f52bac37fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0805291839o522e1c5fr260c0ef1d8e4930b@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0806011525p66358bbeo8ca5f52bac37fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806011850w1ca2178cnfe1592b637bcf7c0@mail.gmail.com>

Before you pull the Ignitor, pull a plug wire, insert a screwdriver in
the end of the wire, place the metal shaft of the screwdriver about
3/16" from the head and have someone turn the key.  You'll know
immediately if it is firing, before you do any real work or upset your
timing.
Also, check the ground wire from the block/head to the battery/chassis.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 19:55:25 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:55:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
	<001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806011855w1b43d372te6563c511e04c94f@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, somewhere I saw an Orange Mopar that turned out good, too.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  1 20:10:49 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:10:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
Message-ID: <683728.19583.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm having issues with my Weber 45DCOE on a 1275
(street car). The carb is mated to a 3.75" Minispares
manifold, 36mm chokes. The below is a little
convoluted, as things that should have mattered
didn't, so I tried some unconventional things. 

I can't get it to idle properly, it wants to be too
high. I "mixed" it as I usually do - set the idle
speed screw 1/2 turn off the stop, used the mixture
screws to set a smooth running idle, then adjusted RPM
with the idle screw. I can't get the idle below 2200
RPM without backfiring and spitting out the velocity
stacks, even after finding the aux vent screw
replaced. Timing is fine. Valves were fine. No
discernible intake leaks. Replaced points, plugs,
coil, wires, distributor with known good. Definitely
all indications of lean. It runs great once it's off
the progression circuit. So just for grins I upped the
main size from 140 to 160 without changing the air
corrector. It behaves better, I can drop the idle by
500 RPM, but still 500 shy of where I'd like it to be.
The thing is...NONE OF THIS makes sense to me. I
thought the mixture screws set the idle with a small
contribution from the idle jet, and the idle jet
progression circuit takes you from idle to about 2500
RPM, where the main circuit kicks in. **Why did
changing the main jet help at all?** And what will
make it all better completely? When I get back from a
drive, it reeks of gasoline and the plugs look rich. I
only have the idle SPEED screw just barely cracked at
this point, so I don't think I'm doing anything to the
idle progression holes. I have only ever used F9 idle
jets on 4 diffrent Weber setups I've had on my
Sprites, so I don't have any other sizes "in stock". I
tried that little venturi bypass thing, it didn't do
anything.

Any opinions are welcomed. Telling me to switch back
to SUs is obvious so I respectfully ask that you
refrain. I have never had much trouble dialing in a
Weber before.

Ron

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 20:11:10 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:11:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] More photos from Sprite Spree 2008... (50 year
 anniversary celebration)
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806010338k22bc3c94w7b54bb3ff0032847@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CD02220-3A65-45AB-8025-4FB8185C0994@gerardsgarage.com>
	<205cef430806010338k22bc3c94w7b54bb3ff0032847@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806011911y4d070318i7725eab95d3c144a@mail.gmail.com>

Was it for sale?

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
wrote:

> How did I miss that Bugeye trailer, "I love it". Do you think I can pull it
> with my motorcycle : )
> Lin

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 20:13:51 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:13:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR
In-Reply-To: <d31.300a084c.35744e3f@aol.com>
References: <d31.300a084c.35744e3f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806011913y13b7c1c7p871d88319ea7ffd3@mail.gmail.com>

That's a name from the past.  Was a great site, years back.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> Just been to PDLJMPR and it seems Les is looking for someone to take it
>  on.
>
> Regards
>
> W E S L A K E
> _______________________________________________
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 20:27:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:27:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
	<001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <48435A7E.1060007@comcast.net>

My buddy painted his Sprite with Rustoleum some 6 or 7 years ago now. It 
looks pretty good still.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  1 20:26:53 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 19:26:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806011855w1b43d372te6563c511e04c94f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86751.19491.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The Corvair guy's 3D pics are way cool once you get
the hang of it. 

I looked at a 66 Corvair today as well as a 5?
Plymouth Savoy and a 69 Camaro. All in a  parking lot,
all nicely restored, all cheap. The Plymouth was
actually the coolest. I'm glad I don't like American
cars, 'cause right now it's a very target rich
environment around here. 

--- derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, somewhere I saw an Orange Mopar that turned
> out good, too.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 20:42:06 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:42:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <683728.19583.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <683728.19583.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D41DFA02-AD22-4F95-8211-542FB9F752BA@comcast.net>

Quick answer would lead me to believe that you are not on the idle  
circuit at all.

Changing main jet would NOT make any difference in idle IF you are  
using the idle circuit.

Old school way of adjusting idle:

	set idle with idle screw to proper revs

	adjust mixture screw until highest idle is achieved

	lower idle with idle screw

	REPEAT until ANY adjustment of mixture screw LOWERs revs.

(I know that you know this but other may not)

I would put money on the fact that you have caca in the idle circuit  
or that the idle jet is clogged.

Lester

.. of course I have only worked on DHSA and the like but Weber is  
fairly consistent..

On Jun 1, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> I'm having issues with my Weber 45DCOE on a 1275
> (street car). The carb is mated to a 3.75" Minispares
> manifold, 36mm chokes. The below is a little
> convoluted, as things that should have mattered
> didn't, so I tried some unconventional things.
>
> I can't get it to idle properly, it wants to be too
> high. I "mixed" it as I usually do - set the idle
> speed screw 1/2 turn off the stop, used the mixture
> screws to set a smooth running idle, then adjusted RPM
> with the idle screw. I can't get the idle below 2200
> RPM without backfiring and spitting out the velocity
> stacks, even after finding the aux vent screw
> replaced. Timing is fine. Valves were fine. No
> discernible intake leaks. Replaced points, plugs,
> coil, wires, distributor with known good. Definitely
> all indications of lean. It runs great once it's off
> the progression circuit. So just for grins I upped the
> main size from 140 to 160 without changing the air
> corrector. It behaves better, I can drop the idle by
> 500 RPM, but still 500 shy of where I'd like it to be.
> The thing is...NONE OF THIS makes sense to me. I
> thought the mixture screws set the idle with a small
> contribution from the idle jet, and the idle jet
> progression circuit takes you from idle to about 2500
> RPM, where the main circuit kicks in. **Why did
> changing the main jet help at all?** And what will
> make it all better completely? When I get back from a
> drive, it reeks of gasoline and the plugs look rich. I
> only have the idle SPEED screw just barely cracked at
> this point, so I don't think I'm doing anything to the
> idle progression holes. I have only ever used F9 idle
> jets on 4 diffrent Weber setups I've had on my
> Sprites, so I don't have any other sizes "in stock". I
> tried that little venturi bypass thing, it didn't do
> anything.
>
> Any opinions are welcomed. Telling me to switch back
> to SUs is obvious so I respectfully ask that you
> refrain. I have never had much trouble dialing in a
> Weber before.
>
> Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 20:45:41 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:45:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <683728.19583.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <683728.19583.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48435ED5.2050103@comcast.net>

Ron
As my neighbor always said when my outboard motor never ran well.
"Dirt in the high speed jets", that was his answer to any mechanical 
problem.
But since yours is an idle issue, you must have dirt in the idle jets.
Seriously, pull out the jets, pop off the ends, blow air thu them and 
put them back.
For some reason I had that problem more than once with my Weber. Always 
a tiny spec of something somewhere. Also is you fuel line dissolving? 
the 58 is just over a year since a total restoration and the  fuel lines 
have melted internally and clogged up the filter.
 From now on it is nothing but the German fuel line.
You might want to blow out all those tiny holes in the carb.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jun  1 21:27:44 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:27:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>

>Get a Mac, Firefox, and a Gmail account and
> you'll wonder how you ever lived without any of them.

You can get LINUX for free, run it on any old machine and never have 
problems with any of this stuff.  For maybe $10-$20, you can get a disk full 
of goodies as well.  I doubled the RAM on an ancient laptop for $24, 
installed LINUX, and gave it to an old lady who knows nothing about 
computers.  It does everything she wants to do.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  1 21:30:22 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:30:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <D41DFA02-AD22-4F95-8211-542FB9F752BA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <541788.41820.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> I would put money on the fact that you have caca in
> the idle circuit  
> or that the idle jet is clogged.

Lester,
Thanks. I had the same guess earlier today - the
circuit is clean. I have the same exact idle circuit
on my race car's weber, and I swapped it without
effect. I agree I'm not on the idle circuit. There
must be a leak I'm missing somewhere...

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  1 21:34:45 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:34:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <48435ED5.2050103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <508196.80339.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> with my Weber. Always 
> a tiny spec of something somewhere. Also is you fuel
> line dissolving? 

Jets clean, but fuel line melting is a new one! You
guys may on to something though if there's something
upstream of the idle circuit. This is a brand new
Weber. I think I mentioned earlier that the quality
looks to have gone down a lot. I guess Spain just
isn't the industrial powerhouse it used to be ;-)

Ron

From nambour3 at yahoo.com.au  Sun Jun  1 21:35:23 2008
From: nambour3 at yahoo.com.au (Alex Robertson)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:35:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 13, Issue 3
Message-ID: <546870.86755.qm@web30207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Message for Ron,
I had a similar problem withB the Weber on my 1380cc engine.
When I put a fuel pressure regulator in line, & set it at 1 1/2psi;B  suddenly
end of problem! No more leaks or flooding, and smooth idle with no flat spots.
Regards from Alex Robertson Queensland, Australia, 



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(longish) (Frank Clarici)
Ron
As my neighbor always said when my outboard
motor never ran well.
"Dirt in the high speed jets", that was his answer to
any mechanical 
problem.
But since yours is an idle issue, you must have dirt
in the idle jets.
Seriously, pull out the jets, pop off the ends, blow air thu
them and 
put them back.
For some reason I had that problem more than once
with my Weber. Always 
a tiny spec of something somewhere. Also is you fuel
line dissolving? 
the 58 is just over a year since a total restoration and
theB  fuel lines 
have melted internally and clogged up the filter.
>From now
on it is nothing but the German fuel line.
You might want to blow out all
those tiny holes in the carb.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 21:49:12 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:49:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <541788.41820.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <541788.41820.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <89276A17-91D2-41D1-90CC-C9064D31E825@comcast.net>

You cant swap the circuit can you?  You can swap the jets / emulsion  
tubes but the circuit is the machining in the body of the carb plus  
the jets etc. unless DCOE's are that different..

Lester


On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> --- Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I would put money on the fact that you have caca in
>> the idle circuit
>> or that the idle jet is clogged.
>
> Lester,
> Thanks. I had the same guess earlier today - the
> circuit is clean. I have the same exact idle circuit
> on my race car's weber, and I swapped it without
> effect. I agree I'm not on the idle circuit. There
> must be a leak I'm missing somewhere...
>
> Ron

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 21:51:07 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:51:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but you either need to be computer savvy or have someone on hand
who is to do the LINUX thing.  It is not rocket science, but it ain't
plug and play, either.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  1 22:01:28 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 23:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
In-Reply-To: <017401c8c41c$6d6abfe0$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <060120080228.657.484209330002C8430000029122155751149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<002f01c8c391$e8f25910$e4aef904@D1PWFG61>
	<017401c8c41c$6d6abfe0$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <A45B3533-8845-4F2E-882B-F40BBB0E8284@comcast.net>

Don't complain,
	
	we had 6.5 inches of rain in about 1.5 hours.  My son took a '97 SAAB  
9000 and had rain on his foot.. on his arm... on his shoulder... well,  
pretty much everywhere up to the top of the headrest.  Yes Virginia,  
that does include the dash, engine, the 5 or so computers, the tranny..

	After HOSING out the leather interior and leaving all doors and  
hatches open for 2 weeks it runs..  seems to lost the radio but other  
than that ...

Lester

.. teenage sons, what a blessing...  ;-)


On Jun 1, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> <<Try a Lotus Seven some time in a rain storm.>>
>
> UNDERSTATEMENT, Mike C.!!  BTDT  Buddy is Springpatch had a Super 7  
> and we were taking a BUNCH (16 or 18 IIRC) cars to a shopping mall  
> for inside display for a week.  We DID have hoods erected expecting  
> "showers".  Got deluge instead.  12 miles later at said mall I was  
> the MOST DRENCHED!!!  Even the Frogeye folks were dryer<VBG>!!
>
> <<The spridget then becomes a new Honda Civic with regards to being  
> dry inside.>>
>
> A "trueism" if I ever heard one!!  LOL
>
> Ed

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  1 22:27:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:27:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>

Hello derf,

     Painless Linux installation..

     UBUNTU!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Fact: Most criminals were raised by heterosexual parents. 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  1 22:43:18 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:43:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806012143m22a40eb9qd6d248a4d76c1c3d@mail.gmail.com>

I know.  I have a digital sign at work that my boss wants me to "broom
and load with minimum LINUX OS."
So, the LINUX learning curve is steep for me right now.  I think the
assignment will be passed to the first real LINUX nerd I can find.
The IT guy says things like "Oh, you have a Mac, uh............." and
"I dunno. LINUX?  Why?"
> Hello derf,
>
>     Painless Linux installation..
>
>     UBUNTU!
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun  1 23:51:38 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:51:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <484327FA.12730.3368762@dmg.bossig.com>

Agreed....
And you can run it from a 'Live' CD or DVD without installing to your hard 
drive to see if you like it......

Get your IT 'guru' to download the Ubuntu 'Hardy' ISO image and burn it to 
a CD or DVD..

Stick it in your CD/DVD drive, switch on and let it do it's thing...
Faster and simpler than Windoze....

I also run Linux from a thumb flash drive....

On 1 Jun 2008 at 21:27, Bill L wrote:

>>      Painless Linux installation..
>> 
>>      UBUNTU!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  2 01:47:52 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <89276A17-91D2-41D1-90CC-C9064D31E825@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <232877.61580.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> You cant swap the circuit can you?  You can swap the
> jets / emulsion  
> tubes 

As you say, just jets and tubes. I did find something
maybe relevant when putting things back where they
were. The emulsion tubes on the racecar are f2, new
setup is f16 (leaner, I think). 

I didn't run it tonight. I went out to the shop after
everyone was sleeping and did oil change on wife's
car, stared at the Weber, dropped the oil pan one more
time on White Trash because something got me thinking
(it was all good). I have to get up in 3 hours. Yikes.

The perfect (for me) race Bugeye has come across my
path...If it's as good as advt, I'll have to get the
green car running perfectly in case I sell it....

Ron

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun  2 06:13:15 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:13:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
Message-ID: <24829501.1212408795390.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Excellent, you have had the experience!  Here is just one of my Lotus Seven
rain stories . . .

I was in my '62 Super Seven and it had full weather equipment and by the
appearance of it, a person would believe that it would probably stay somewhat
dry inside.  The exact opposite of that occurred.  I was making a run to my
old home of about 130 miles and there was some chance of a thunderstorm.  So I
stashed all of the weather equipment and took off.  About 50 miles into it,
rain began to come down.  At first, rain was only blowing in between the
convertible top and the top of the windscreen.  Then the water started coming
in beneath the windscreen.  Then the water started coming in by the buckets
somewhere in the footwell.  I wear glasses to see properly.  I had to remove
the glasses to try and see again.  I found an overpass and stopped to remove
both sidecurtains (doors) as they weren't doing anything useful anyway.  The
only way that I could see to drive on the road was to look out to the side of
me at the white end of lane markings.  Remember it is right hand drive.  Every
now and then a semi would go by and blast me with a few buckets of water mixed
with pebbles.

I think that I would have stayed more dry had I strapped myself on top of the
Lotus with no weather protection.

However, I can honestly say that the the theory of spraying water into your
carbs really works as that Super Seven had never run so good.  The water was
also going into the open throats of the two weber sidedraughts.  By the way, I
could never keep those carbs in sync or acting right until that day.


Mike C
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com>
>Sent: Jun 1, 2008 3:19 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Got caught in the rain, glub..glub..glub
>
><<Try a Lotus Seven some time in a rain storm.>>
>
>UNDERSTATEMENT, Mike C.!!  BTDT  Buddy is Springpatch had a Super 7 and we
were taking a BUNCH (16 or 18 IIRC) cars to a shopping mall for inside display
for a week.  We DID have hoods erected expecting "showers".  Got deluge
instead.  12 miles later at said mall I was the MOST DRENCHED!!!  Even the
Frogeye folks were dryer<VBG>!!
>
><<The spridget then becomes a new Honda Civic with regards to being dry
inside.>>
>
>A "trueism" if I ever heard one!!  LOL
>
>Ed


________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jun  2 07:15:28 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0546C5CCC3E94F57A2507CB944739F43@Home>

> Yes, but you either need to be computer savvy or have someone on hand
> who is to do the LINUX thing.  It is not rocket science, but it ain't
> plug and play, either.

Ubuntu LINUX is pretty much plug and play for anyone accustomed to normal PC 
modes.  Perhaps not Macs.  I still have trouble figureing out my wife's Mac, 
as it is not intuitive to a long-term PC user.  I found LINUX easier to 
understand.

BTW,  I finally got my new Handy MIG together and got out some scrap  to 
practice on.  It didn't work, straight out of the box.  Bummer.  (It was 
made in Poland, not China, so you have to make Polish jokes.)

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 07:26:14 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 08:26:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <0546C5CCC3E94F57A2507CB944739F43@Home>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<0546C5CCC3E94F57A2507CB944739F43@Home>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806020626t3a4580b7vd6d64fbb5f50bf26@mail.gmail.com>

One Polish hunter says to the other Polish hunter
"I wonder why we are not getting any ducks?"
response
"I guess we are not throwing the dog high enough"

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:15 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> > Yes, but you either need to be computer savvy or have someone on hand
> > who is to do the LINUX thing.  It is not rocket science, but it ain't
> > plug and play, either.
>
> Ubuntu LINUX is pretty much plug and play for anyone accustomed to normal
> PC
> modes.  Perhaps not Macs.  I still have trouble figureing out my wife's
> Mac,
> as it is not intuitive to a long-term PC user.  I found LINUX easier to
> understand.
>
> BTW,  I finally got my new Handy MIG together and got out some scrap  to
> practice on.  It didn't work, straight out of the box.  Bummer.  (It was
> made in Poland, not China, so you have to make Polish jokes.)
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun  2 08:47:37 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:47:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new LBC
Message-ID: <74875857C3A94A00964163E969310507@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Amazingly, the kid got his paperwork straightened out, and I'm taking delivery
this morning on a 1967 MKIII Sprite with a fairly nice Sebring bonnet.  It'll
end up being an episode of "Flip this car" over the winter.  The wife would
prefer it to be fixed up, sold, and replaced with a Morris pickup.  She'll
likely get her wish.

The shell is rust free and the engine is a runner.  The interior is a dump,
but big deal.

Glen  Byrns

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Jun  2 08:59:13 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 07:59:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rick Kaplan Sprite video
References: <c62.31460207.35744e93@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a401c8c4c1$39554180$9d947e4c@HP>

Don't have a link to the video but here is a link to pictures.

http://ado13.com/downloads/Rush%20Preview/preview.html

And a link to the screen saver.

Click Here To Download 2.6mb Rush.exe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:12 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Rick Kaplan Sprite video


> Hi List,
>
> PDLJMPR has a link to Rick Kaplan's video of Sprite Rush 03 which I don't
> think I've ever seen.  However, the link no longer works so does anyone 
> else
> have a good link or copy?

From hannamj at juno.com  Mon Jun  2 10:09:52 2008
From: hannamj at juno.com (Mark & Joanna)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 16:09:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Soft Top
Message-ID: <20080602.100952.8165.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Hi folks,
I am getting my car ready for Lake of the Ozarks this month.
I still need to purchase a top. A few weeks ago there was a thread about tops.
I must have missed the bottom line. I like the idea of a black canvas top.
Years ago some guy was making these for reasonable money. Is he still around?
Are the tops any good? I do not want a cheap top, I want a good top. Anyone
have the MacGreagor (sp) top? What soft top do you guys like? Please feel free
to email me off list if that avoids stepping on toes or hurting a vendor's
feelings. I really do need a new top soooon!
Thank you,
          Mark (Colorado)
_____________________________________________________________
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 10:53:00 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:53:00 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
Message-ID: <c07.3890d2cb.35757f6c@aol.com>

Hi Ron,
 
You need to start from the beginning.  All main jet sizes are fairly  
meaningless without the aux venturi size.  Also you do have the aux venturi  in the 
right way round and right way up don't you?
 
Has this carb ever run ok on this engine?
 
Daniel1312
 
In a message dated 02/06/2008 03:32:45 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com  
writes:

I'm  having issues with my Weber 45DCOE on a 1275
(street car). The carb is  mated to a 3.75" Minispares
manifold, 36mm chokes. The below is a  little
convoluted, as things that should have mattered
didn't, so I  tried some unconventional things. 

I can't get it to idle properly, it  wants to be too
high. I "mixed" it as I usually do - set the idle
speed  screw 1/2 turn off the stop, used the mixture
screws to set a smooth  running idle, then adjusted RPM
with the idle screw. I can't get the idle  below 2200
RPM without backfiring and spitting out the velocity
stacks,  even after finding the aux vent screw
replaced. Timing is fine. Valves were  fine. No
discernible intake leaks. Replaced points, plugs,
coil, wires,  distributor with known good. Definitely
all indications of lean. It runs  great once it's off
the progression circuit. So just for grins I upped  the
main size from 140 to 160 without changing the air
corrector. It  behaves better, I can drop the idle by
500 RPM, but still 500 shy of where  I'd like it to be.
The thing is...NONE OF THIS makes sense to me.  I
thought the mixture screws set the idle with a small
contribution from  the idle jet, and the idle jet
progression circuit takes you from idle to  about 2500
RPM, where the main circuit kicks in. **Why did
changing the  main jet help at all?** And what will
make it all better completely? When I  get back from a
drive, it reeks of gasoline and the plugs look rich.  I
only have the idle SPEED screw just barely cracked at
this point, so I  don't think I'm doing anything to the
idle progression holes. I have only  ever used F9 idle
jets on 4 diffrent Weber setups I've had on  my
Sprites, so I don't have any other sizes "in stock". I
tried that  little venturi bypass thing, it didn't do
anything.

Any opinions are  welcomed. Telling me to switch back
to SUs is obvious so I respectfully ask  that you
refrain. I have never had much trouble dialing in a
Weber  before.

Ron

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 10:54:09 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:54:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
Message-ID: <cd2.333ef4be.35757fb1@aol.com>

I agree.
 
In a message dated 02/06/2008 04:02:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Quick  answer would lead me to believe that you are not on the idle  
circuit  at all.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 11:09:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:09:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <484327FA.12730.3368762@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<484327FA.12730.3368762@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806021009x4b556f9ar6e296dca36ef2ece@mail.gmail.com>

Tried it.  Will stick with my Fedora boot.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/2/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>
> Agreed....
> And you can run it from a 'Live' CD or DVD without installing to your hard
> drive to see if you like it......
>
> Get your IT 'guru' to download the Ubuntu 'Hardy' ISO image and burn it to
> a CD or DVD..
>
> Stick it in your CD/DVD drive, switch on and let it do it's thing...
> Faster and simpler than Windoze....
>
> I also run Linux from a thumb flash drive....
>
> On 1 Jun 2008 at 21:27, Bill L wrote:
>
> >>      Painless Linux installation..
> >>
> >>      UBUNTU!
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 11:35:49 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:35:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PDLJMPR
Message-ID: <ca3.328ccf38.35758975@aol.com>

Just needs a new owner to make it great again!
 
In a message dated 02/06/2008 03:13:53 GMT Daylight Time,  froggi60 at gmail.com 
writes:

That's a  name from the past.  Was a great site, years back.

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:10 PM, <_Weslake1330 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:Weslake1330 at aol.com) > wrote:

Hi  List,

Just been to PDLJMPR and it seems Les is looking for someone to  take it  on.

Regards

W E S L A K  E
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun  2 11:40:24 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 12:40:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806021009x4b556f9ar6e296dca36ef2ece@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<484327FA.12730.3368762@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0806021009x4b556f9ar6e296dca36ef2ece@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B2EEEE1F-EE5F-46D6-A49D-2CD6D2C932DE@comcast.net>

.. and here I only knew about the hats..  do they make matching  
gloves too??

Lester

On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Tried it.  Will stick with my Fedora boot.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/2/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed....
>> And you can run it from a 'Live' CD or DVD without installing to  
>> your hard
>> drive to see if you like it......
>>
>> Get your IT 'guru' to download the Ubuntu 'Hardy' ISO image and  
>> burn it to
>> a CD or DVD..
>>
>> Stick it in your CD/DVD drive, switch on and let it do it's thing...
>> Faster and simpler than Windoze....
>>
>> I also run Linux from a thumb flash drive....
>>
>> On 1 Jun 2008 at 21:27, Bill L wrote:
>>
>>>>      Painless Linux installation..
>>>>
>>>>      UBUNTU!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Mon Jun  2 16:05:33 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 15:05:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fastest MG
References: <8f7bee550806021452m3e643ab3n145ebfadbaf05e4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B8A4EBC-0B17-478E-8E6B-8B9AE2E7B798@gerardsgarage.com>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxXaCJU_2A&feature=related

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Jun  2 19:35:40 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:35:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
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Might be painless install, unless you have a new gaming laptop (RAIDED  
drives hi-powered video etc - no freaking drivers available in the  
Ubuntu distro), then the drivers fail. In my experience, Ubuntu is the  
worst for up to date drivers for brand new machines. Now get someone  
that has linux experience to fix it.

Now Fedora, that's a whole different ball game

Larry
For development - Linux. For Work - Mac, For Solitaire - Windows


On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello derf,
>
>     Painless Linux installation..
>
>     UBUNTU!
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  Fact: Most criminals were raised by heterosexual parents.
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From hammack at GotSlack.org  Mon Jun  2 19:46:18 2008
From: hammack at GotSlack.org (Jim Hammack)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:46:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>

   But Linux runs great on older (cheap) hardware that can't keep up with
   Vista  or  XP.   I'm  sending  this  from  a  333  MHz Pentium running
   Slackware.   (I'm  so old, I learned Unix before Windows even existed,
   so no steep learning curve for me.)
   Windoze is good for your mom to keep her recipes, but Larry is right -
   Linux or a Mac if you're doing something serious.
                                                    Jim
   Larry Macy wrote:

Might be painless install, unless you have a new gaming laptop (RAIDED
drives hi-powered video etc - no freaking drivers available in the
Ubuntu distro), then the drivers fail. In my experience, Ubuntu is the
worst for up to date drivers for brand new machines. Now get someone
that has linux experience to fix it.

Now Fedora, that's a whole different ball game

Larry
For development - Linux. For Work - Mac, For Solitaire - Windows

On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:27 AM, Bill L wrote:

Hello derf,

    Painless Linux installation..

    UBUNTU!

--
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Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
'66 Sprite HAN8L49403
 Fact: Most criminals were raised by heterosexual parents.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  2 20:11:07 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:11:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
In-Reply-To: <cd2.333ef4be.35757fb1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <676104.48223.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:  
> I agree.

That was what I was saying in the initial post. The
emulsion tube is an f16. This is the standard Sprite
K011 DCOE kit carb. This is a brand new carb. Aux
vents are 4.5mm. They are installed the correct way
(the factory did it, but they did it correctly). I'll
try Lester's cleaning idea. Someone asked about fuel
pump - on the street car I use the mechanical pump,
which has always provided perfect fuel pressure
before, around 2.5 psi.


>  
> In a message dated 02/06/2008 04:02:23 GMT Daylight
> Time,  
> oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:
> 
> Quick  answer would lead me to believe that you are
> not on the idle  
> circuit  at all.

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Jun  2 20:40:37 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:40:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] More Jubilee Photo's ??
Message-ID: <c67.353df5c6.35760925@aol.com>

Tomorrow it will be two weeks since the closing day of the Sprite Jubilee,  
and to date I've only seen a handful of photographs on the web. Does anyone 
else  who attended have any others they can post somewhere?
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun  2 21:49:10 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 21:49:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More Jubilee Photo's ??
References: <c67.353df5c6.35760925@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006701c8c52c$c86a6d30$6601a8c0@shop>

You mean Rick ain't hosting everybpdy's, Howard  ??

I am suprised.    NOT.

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun  2 20:49:34 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:49:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Door seal recommendation???
Message-ID: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>

Early '65 Sprite, wind-up windows.

Can anybody suggest/recommend a source or supplier for about 12ft of 
affordable door seal??? Preferably something that doesn't use or need 
clips...

Something like MossMotors "Bristleflex" but cheaper than $105!!!

Yeah, I know, I'm a tightwad!
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  2 21:07:47 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:07:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Door seal recommendation???
In-Reply-To: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4844B583.2070405@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Early '65 Sprite, wind-up windows.
>
> Can anybody suggest/recommend a source or supplier for about 12ft of 
> affordable door seal??? 
JC Whitney. the 5/8 side bulb rubber stuff is fantastic!
It has no clips, a vinyl push fit with a sponge rubber side bulb that 
not only fits, but it stays on AND it even seals the doors!
I  think it only comes ion a 25' roll but it's $30 or so for the roll, 
maybe $40 now but a roll does 2 Sprites because I happen to have enough 
from a past project to do the 67 this past winter.
The doors do need a hard push to close at first but the sponge rubber 
takes shape and it works perfectly after about a week.
Again, it's the side bulb stuff, 5/8 or maybe 11/16, it is the thinnest 
side bulb weather strip.
part # xm132561   $39.95 for 25' roll.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  2 22:05:57 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:05:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
	<001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<48435A7E.1060007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c8c52f$20ec7000$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

Well...   The way I look at it is that it will allow me to work on it a 
little at a time.
I'll start with a door and if I don't like what I see then I can revert to 
spraying it conventionally.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>; "Michael Rowe" 
<mdrowe at optonline.net>; "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint


> My buddy painted his Sprite with Rustoleum some 6 or 7 years ago now. It 
> looks pretty good still.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun  2 22:54:49 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 23:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
	<4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/2/08, Jim Hammack <hammack at gotslack.org> wrote:
>
>    But Linux runs great on older (cheap) hardware that can't keep up with
>    Vista  or  XP.   I'm  sending  this  from  a  333  MHz Pentium running
>    Slackware.   (I'm  so old, I learned Unix before Windows even existed,
>    so no steep learning curve for me.)
>    Windoze is good for your mom to keep her recipes, but Larry is right -
>    Linux or a Mac if you're doing something serious.


Well, it depends what you call serious...  I run numerical models of the
atmosphere using 4D spatial analysis and 4D integration of the dynamic data
sets through the equations of motion, continuity and state. These models
ingest about 4 gigs of initialization data and take about 5 hours to run on
my older PC. For this kind of "serious" application, you can forget the Mac.
Even OSX is not up to this kind of intense number crunching. We've only
recently (past 8 years) been able to do this type of computation on any kind
of a desktop machine and it requires Linux or Sun Sparc Solaris.  I ran it
under RedHat for about 4 years and then changed to Fedora. I really need to
go to Synchronous Multi-Processor set up to shorten the computation time.
Fortunately the more recent itterations of Fedora support SMP. I'm also old
enough to have used Slackware back in the olden days!!  I ran it on an old
IBM with an 8088 cpu and 640K RAM on the mother board!  How times change!

Cheers!!
Jim

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  2 23:40:23 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com><27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home><5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com><53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com><DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com><4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
	<43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Hammack" <hammack at gotslack.org>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bloody computers


> On 6/2/08, Jim Hammack <hammack at gotslack.org> wrote:
> I really need to
> go to Synchronous Multi-Processor set up to shorten the computation time.
> Fortunately the more recent itterations of Fedora support SMP.

I think you mean Symmetric  Multiprocessing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing

> I'm also old
> enough to have used Slackware back in the olden days!!  I ran it on an old
> IBM with an 8088 cpu and 640K RAM on the mother board!  How times change!

You were running an 8088 in 1993?  Most of us were on 286/386 machines 
around that time.
1993 was when the first Slackware version came out.  I could be wrong but I 
think you needed at least a 386 to run it.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  3 01:00:55 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:00:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
Message-ID: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:   Windoze .spatial analysis. 4D integration. dynamic
data. equations of motion, continuity and state. 4 gigs. initialization
data.  Linux. Sun Sparc Solaris. RedHat .Fedora. Synchronous
Multi-Processor. itterations .SMP. Slackware .8088 cpu .640K RAM .mother
board.

 

Look, talking dirty may give you some orgasmic relief during "hot chat" with
one of your Dodge City tarts, but this is a family board.  So please clean
up your filthy language!

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue Jun  3 01:36:30 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 00:36:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
In-Reply-To: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <11670a29ec8a3e3a0a3e7d8a.20080603003630.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Buster,
     It's a good thing I wasn't drinking milk when I read your reply to
our resident weatherman, I would have coughed it up through my nose. 
I'm still laughing as I write this.  You should have fixed your
computer long ago.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2




B- Evans
> Jim Johnson wrote:   Windoze .spatial analysis. 4D integration. dynamic
> data. equations of motion, continuity and state. 4 gigs. initialization
> data.  Linux. Sun Sparc Solaris. RedHat .Fedora. Synchronous
> Multi-Processor. itterations .SMP. Slackware .8088 cpu .640K RAM .mother
> board.
>
>
>
> Look, talking dirty may give you some orgasmic relief during "hot chat"
> with
> one of your Dodge City tarts, but this is a family board.  So please clean
> up your filthy language!

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 04:48:28 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:48:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
	<4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
	<43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C72CE48-014A-40D8-92FB-A54266981E9E@phillymgclub.com>

Oh yea, one more thing about Macs and "serious number crunching" Ever  
see any Pixar movie?? CGI in general is done on Macs or Solaris, no  
Winblows to be seen, cept maybe at the reception desk where the  
receptionist play solitaire.

Larry

On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:54 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> On 6/2/08, Jim Hammack <hammack at gotslack.org> wrote:
>>
>>   But Linux runs great on older (cheap) hardware that can't keep up  
>> with
>>   Vista  or  XP.   I'm  sending  this  from  a  333  MHz Pentium  
>> running
>>   Slackware.   (I'm  so old, I learned Unix before Windows even  
>> existed,
>>   so no steep learning curve for me.)
>>   Windoze is good for your mom to keep her recipes, but Larry is  
>> right -
>>   Linux or a Mac if you're doing something serious.
>
>
> Well, it depends what you call serious...  I run numerical models of  
> the
> atmosphere using 4D spatial analysis and 4D integration of the  
> dynamic data
> sets through the equations of motion, continuity and state. These  
> models
> ingest about 4 gigs of initialization data and take about 5 hours to  
> run on
> my older PC. For this kind of "serious" application, you can forget  
> the Mac.
> Even OSX is not up to this kind of intense number crunching. We've  
> only
> recently (past 8 years) been able to do this type of computation on  
> any kind
> of a desktop machine and it requires Linux or Sun Sparc Solaris.  I  
> ran it
> under RedHat for about 4 years and then changed to Fedora. I really  
> need to
> go to Synchronous Multi-Processor set up to shorten the computation  
> time.
> Fortunately the more recent itterations of Fedora support SMP. I'm  
> also old
> enough to have used Slackware back in the olden days!!  I ran it on  
> an old
> IBM with an 8088 cpu and 640K RAM on the mother board!  How times  
> change!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
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Philadelphia MG Club

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun  3 08:01:51 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:01:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <479E3EBD6ECC4095BA7B5B2BB5436704@Home>

I think it is important to specify the nature of the use and the user. 
There are a lot of people (myself included) who just use their computers for 
e-mail, managing photos, typing, and web shopping.   Very little 
speed/RAM/etc. is required for these applications, and pretty much any 
5-year-old machine will do, maybe with some cheap added RAM.  Don't scare 
off these people because you are having trouble with the latest, hottest 
game.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island,  NY

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 08:11:06 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:11:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers*
Message-ID: <060320081411.27885.484550FA0002DDC800006CED2215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I missed out on the early posts of this thread, but in case there is any interest, let me tell you where I bought my current, and near future, computer system.  I am using a Gateway Pentium III which I have had for about 4 years.  I purchased it, with a big flat-screen (17". I believe) Gateway monitor, for $130.  I will soon be moving my hard drive and other peripherals in this unit to a Dell with a Pentium IV, which I purchased about 3 months ago for $35.  

Where?

I purchased the Gateway at a University of Tennessee surplus auction and the Dell at a U.S. Government surplus auction in Oak Ridge, TN.  You can, and I do, get on the lists of government agencies that frequently hold surplus auctions that will tell you when and where and the types of items up for auction.  Check out your local public universities and government agencies for their auctions.   They seem to update their equipment fairly frequently, leaving perfectly good equipment open for purchase at a fraction of its original value.

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> I think it is important to specify the nature of the use and the user. 
> There are a lot of people (myself included) who just use their computers for 
> e-mail, managing photos, typing, and web shopping.   Very little 
> speed/RAM/etc. is required for these applications, and pretty much any 
> 5-year-old machine will do, maybe with some cheap added RAM.  Don't scare 
> off these people because you are having trouble with the latest, hottest 
> game.
> 
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island,  NY
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From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  3 09:34:25 2008
From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 08:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers
Message-ID: <748907.20635.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hey folks, I just recieved an order from Moss with wiperblades for a 79 midget. The odd thing is I kept telling the folks at Moss my blades are stainless steel, but they insisted that they are supposed to be black...Well, against my better judgement I went ahead and ordered them. Low and behold, I guess I was right because they do not fit the same, and cannot go on the arms that are already on there,...(Different connection)..My question is did some of the 79's come with the stainless wipers (not the spoon type connector), or have I run into a past owner that swapped out the arms and blade of one of the older Midgets. Someone told me I could just take the rubbber off of one and put it on the other, but honestly I cannot see where that can be done...

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 10:26:55 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
	<4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
	<43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806030926m7338ff30kf2607f00cf7aed38@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/3/08, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I think you mean Symmetric  Multiprocessing
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing


Nope:   See:
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5978831/claims.html

> I'm also old
> > enough to have used Slackware back in the olden days!!  I ran it on an
> old
> > IBM with an 8088 cpu and 640K RAM on the mother board!  How times change!


The GNU project began back in the mid 80s I think. You are correct that
Volkerding released Slackware 1.0 in 1993 but its for-runners SLS and MINIX
were already in use on the 16 bit architecture (pre-x86) of the time. I
started with MINIX - many parts o which eventually became components of
Slackware 1.0.

FWIW, my first desktop was an early 8008 homebrew back in the late 70s. I
still remember the excitement when I got my 8" floppy disk drive!!  Finally
I could store code on something other than paper tape!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 10:48:40 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:48:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com><27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home><5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com><53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com><DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com><4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org><43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com><005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<43840a7e0806030926m7338ff30kf2607f00cf7aed38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>

Starting to sound like Monty Python's routine about the Yorkshirement in 
here ;-)

We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register switches to 
boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power supply voltage 
with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those were the days...
Heck, I ain't THAT old!
David L 

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  3 11:44:51 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MacGregors in CA 877-777-6381 - Door Seals
Message-ID: <715615.12934.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Martin sent me a sample of this stuff when I ordered a bonnet seal and it really is all that good. Fun guy to talk with and service was fabulous

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun  3 11:54:46 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:54:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>

You had SWITCHES ??????
I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>

On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:

>> We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register switches
>> to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
>> supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
>> were the days...


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  3 12:46:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:46:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] '50 MG
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40046166F5B9D0C17BFC1DB8BA0@phx.gbl>

Look what I missed:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/5qawut

I don't have the money, but I might have been able to dig some up ...

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 12:53:03 2008
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:53:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <002e01c8c5ab$0e151000$6501a8c0@Inspiron>

I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only saw
1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.

I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where are
all the sports cars?

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun  3 12:53:59 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <13621917.1212519239105.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Did you drive all of that distance in your '63 Sprite?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 3, 2008 2:53 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
>
>I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only saw
>1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.
>
>I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where are
>all the sports cars?
>
>Greg Higgins
>63 sprite


________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  3 13:08:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:08:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <002e01c8c5ab$0e151000$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F357CF6062809781F44E0A4B8BA0@phx.gbl>

Not counting the ones at the Brit Garage, I saw 4 yesterday in the twenty 
minute drive home from work.  ( and a fiat spider )

----Original Message Follows----
From: Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com>

I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only 
saw
1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.

I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where 
are
all the sports cars?

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 15:14:20 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:14:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <F597660C-B8CC-4A3A-BFB9-457789A84EC6@comcast.net>

OOhhh..  a plug board.. we used to go to bead at night dreamin' of a  
plug board..  we had to take clay pots and use tar and gold just to  
get the current to power the Ark of the Covenant and it was only  
unidirectional communication!

Lester

.. yeah.. I watch Mythbusters..

Who reads Terry Pratchett?!!  My Sis is one of her buddies and keeps  
trying to get me to read her works or is it his works?



On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> You had SWITCHES ??????
> I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>
>
> On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:
>
>>> We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register  
>>> switches
>>> to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
>>> supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
>>> were the days...
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun  3 15:14:59 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:14:59 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <c81.2a7088f3.35770e53@aol.com>

Mine is in my garage but if you are driving in Warwickshire Saturday I will  
be driving it.  Today I had to go to work to earn a living.  Sadly  driving my 
Sprite does not earn me a living...
 
In a message dated 03/06/2008 19:50:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes:

where  are
all the sports cars?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 15:17:08 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:17:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody ever trip over their feet while carrying a program on a 3 foot stack
of punch cards. In 1963 IBM moved me to parts assembly at the Endwell, NY
lab when I had an unfortunate stumble on the way to the mainframe in the
Owego Lab's basement....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> You had SWITCHES ??????
> I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>
>
> On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:
>
> >> We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register switches
> >> to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
> >> supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
> >> were the days...
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
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>
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>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun  3 15:23:12 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:23:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused - Weber issues (longish)
Message-ID: <cd3.350a21c6.35771040@aol.com>

I realised when I read this that the aux vents are for the main jet  
circuit.. duh..
 
SO.
 
The problem remains in the idle circuit which means idle jets and Em tube  
and drillings.
 
Just forward of the idle mixture adjusting screws there are two brass head  
inspection screws (not to be confused with the pump jet cover screw  heads).  
Undo these and crank the engine.  If what you can see is  absolutely dry the 
problem lies further back.  If they are wet it may be a  problem further back or 
a jetting issue.
 
If these galleries are dry it could be that the (lead) gallery plugs have  
gone too far into the body and blocked off the idle galleries.  If so  return 
the carb to the supplier with a bill for time wasted and a replacement  carb.  
Or drill them out and re-plug later (not recommended).
 
That's all for now.
 
Daniel
 
 
In a message dated 03/06/2008 03:11:22 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com  
writes:

This is  a brand new carb. Aux
vents are 4.5mm. They are installed the correct  way

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 15:30:45 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:30:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov><484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
	<F597660C-B8CC-4A3A-BFB9-457789A84EC6@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D9509BF58F484C0393F463B3A0DF8962@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Who reads Terry Pratchett?!!  My Sis is one of her buddies and keeps  
> trying to get me to read her works or is it his works?

I always thought it was "he"... another chauvanist pig, I guess. Good stuff.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 16:02:43 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:02:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8AAEB256-332B-408A-9BD2-8DFDDD2E4C82@comcast.net>

AAAAACCCKKKKK!!!!!  Punch cards...  hate 'em.  We had some kind of  
Basic simulator running on a whatfour compiler through some kind of  
business system.. the old one, started with an "a" IIRC..  but those  
things saved my butt a time or two, see every time there was a power  
fluctuation any work went away into the ether.. poof..  10 hours of  
entering lines to determine Nutria allele distribution gone the way  
of the dodo..

Lester


On Jun 3, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Anybody ever trip over their feet while carrying a program on a 3  
> foot stack
> of punch cards. In 1963 IBM moved me to parts assembly at the  
> Endwell, NY
> lab when I had an unfortunate stumble on the way to the mainframe  
> in the
> Owego Lab's basement....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>
>> You had SWITCHES ??????
>> I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>
>>
>> On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:
>>
>>>> We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register  
>>>> switches
>>>> to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
>>>> supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
>>>> were the days...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
>>
>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June  
> 26-29, 2008!!
>
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net
>
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>
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From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Jun  3 16:19:07 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:19:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <c81.2a7088f3.35770e53@aol.com>
References: <c81.2a7088f3.35770e53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4845C35B.1090804@b2systems.com>

 But why not drive the Sprite to work ?  my L.B.C. is in the parking lot 
here at UCSB and its here a few times a week ( I share my driving time 
with several cars ).

    mike

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Mine is in my garage but if you are driving in Warwickshire Saturday I will  
> be driving it.  Today I had to go to work to earn a living.  Sadly  driving my 
> Sprite does not earn me a living...
>  
> In a message dated 03/06/2008 19:50:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
> g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes:
>
> where  are
> all the sports cars?
> _______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 16:20:30 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:20:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Lake of the Ozarks Update
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806031520y186ee9c7i324812202d8d52ac@mail.gmail.com>

This is just a quick note to the lists to correct what appears to be a
misconception....

The big fling runs from June 26th thru June 29th. The registration table
will be open on the 25th and the car show begins at 8:00 am on Thursday
morning, the 26th of June.  Some people apparently are thinking that things
don't get rolling until Friday the 27th and we want to correct that
misconception. If you are coming, you should try to get there sometime on
the 25th in order not to miss the car show and the driving skills event on
Thursday!  If you have any questions please don't hesitate to call Jim
Johnson at 620-408-6877!

Please pass this on to anyone you know who might be coming that may not be
on the email lists.....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun  3 16:05:15 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:05:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <F597660C-B8CC-4A3A-BFB9-457789A84EC6@comcast.net>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<F597660C-B8CC-4A3A-BFB9-457789A84EC6@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48455DAB.5948.105AA44@dmg.bossig.com>

Terry Pratchet is a 'him', unfortuantely he has just been diagnosed with 
Alzheimers....
I've enjoyed his books, especially the character "DEATH" - who always 
'speaks' in capital letters......
They are all satirical, and are even funnier if you are familiar with the Brit 
way of life... they are almost as funny from a 'Colonial' point of view

Try starting with "Reaper Man", or "Mort"...



On 3 Jun 2008 at 16:14, Lester wrote:

>> Who reads Terry Pratchett?!!  My Sis is one of her buddies and keeps 
>> trying to get me to read her works or is it his works?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 16:40:14 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:40:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers
In-Reply-To: <748907.20635.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <748907.20635.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4845C84E.8010302@comcast.net>

Yup, somebody put earlier wiper arms and blades on your car.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  3 16:40:41 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
In-Reply-To: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

If Jim replaced the PC and the software with a dart
board, do you think the weather forecasts would get
worse or....?

--- B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:   Windoze .spatial analysis. 4D
> integration. dynamic
> data. equations of motion, continuity and state. 4
> gigs. initialization
> data.  Linux. Sun Sparc Solaris. RedHat .Fedora.
> Synchronous
> Multi-Processor. itterations .SMP. Slackware .8088
> cpu .640K RAM .mother
> board.
> 
>  
> 
> Look, talking dirty may give you some orgasmic
> relief during "hot chat" with
> one of your Dodge City tarts, but this is a family
> board.  So please clean
> up your filthy language!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  3 16:42:25 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:42:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Confused- Webers
In-Reply-To: <20080603.125935.4082.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <166002.1596.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- M <haynes386 at netzero.com> wrote:

> (as someone just had experience with) or
> missing, the venturi will just spin in the throat
> and close off the primary fuel feed hole. 

That was me ;). The screws are safety wired now.

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun  3 17:56:24 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:56:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
References: <962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005901c8c5d5$6eaaeaa0$6601a8c0@shop>

<<do you think the weather forecasts would get worse or....?>>

SAME, Ron!!  Tips wouldn't change anything either !!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  3 17:10:39 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <002e01c8c5ab$0e151000$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <501667.34245.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

MIne's in the garage till this weekend or so.  Just finished putting new brake master cylinder and braided stainless hoses on.  Then charged up the battery and found that the SU fuel pump has decided to take a crap.  Went back out to Advance and bought a Mr. Gasket electric pump that will go with a new in-line filter from the garage and a new adjustable fuel pressure regulator I picked up at work today (vendor sample of a part we just discontinued).  
   
  Anyway, the point is, mine is about back on the road.  This weekend I saw bunches all over Long Island.  Many have been out and about for a month so far.  I see them every day now.  Life's good on L.I. (except for the fact I have to drive into Queens every day and work)
   
   - David

Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com> wrote:
  I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only saw
1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.

I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where are
all the sports cars?

Greg Higgins
63 sprite
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 17:15:51 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:15:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <002e01c8c5ab$0e151000$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
References: <002e01c8c5ab$0e151000$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
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"...a long time passing."  PP&M

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only
> saw
> 1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.
>
> I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where
> are
> all the sports cars?
>
> Greg Higgins
> 63 sprite
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun  3 17:21:40 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:21:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
In-Reply-To: <962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1462477461.20080603162140@pacifier.com>

Hello Ron,

     a dart board would be an improvement.. for more accuracy yet,  a
     pecking chicken.. or sand thrown over ones shoulder 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 18:23:24 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:23:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
In-Reply-To: <1462477461.20080603162140@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1462477461.20080603162140@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806031723o65172c33r88d2caea61bd539f@mail.gmail.com>

It wouldn't change a thing!   I'm now retired putting my personal monkey on
some younger forecaster's back.  Hahahahahaha!!!   Besides, back in my pub
crawling, darts team days in England I was pretty darned good with a decent
set of flights - so there!!  Nyah!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Ron,
>
>     a dart board would be an improvement.. for more accuracy yet,  a
>     pecking chicken.. or sand thrown over ones shoulder
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>      * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 18:47:26 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

Took my 74 in to work today saw one parked in someones driveway on the way in and passed a 75+ on the way home.  We did the whole honk and wave thing. last week I passed a MGA on a lovely spridget road.
ryan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com> 

> "...a long time passing." PP&M 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Greg Higgins wrote: 
> 
> > I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States, I only 
> > saw 
> > 1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C. 
> > 
> > I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here, where 
> > are 
> > all the sports cars? 
> > 
> > Greg Higgins 
> > 63 sprite 
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 19:09:41 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:09:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shame on you Jim
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806031723o65172c33r88d2caea61bd539f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K3QVk-0004N7-Ra@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<962261.36572.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1462477461.20080603162140@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0806031723o65172c33r88d2caea61bd539f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C9EB8CDB-879D-4FDE-8D6F-DC022066008E@comcast.net>

Hammerheads?  My fav..

Lester


On Jun 3, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> It wouldn't change a thing!   I'm now retired putting my personal  
> monkey on
> some younger forecaster's back.  Hahahahahaha!!!   Besides, back in  
> my pub
> crawling, darts team days in England I was pretty darned good with a  
> decent
> set of flights - so there!!  Nyah!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Ron,
>>
>>    a dart board would be an improvement.. for more accuracy yet,  a
>>    pecking chicken.. or sand thrown over ones shoulder
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>>     * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June  
> 26-29, 2008!!
>
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  3 19:29:19 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:29:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <E1K3hoN-000823-7u@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The past few weeks have been glorious driving the Sprite through Southern
California.   Anyone with one of our cars would love the weather we have
been enjoying.  It is so lonely, I wish they could all come.

 

What I find incredible, however, is the dearth of classic sports cars on the
roads of Southern California.  This, after all, is the land God created for
them!  I have seen in the past few weeks one MG TD and one MG TD, and that
is it.

 

I did have one guy come up from my right rear and honk his horn, just like
the good old days.   I guess he thought I was stuck up because I did not
wave back at him and his Miata.  With the top up.   (Do they make tops for a
Bugeye?)

 

Buster

From hammack at GotSlack.org  Tue Jun  3 19:43:15 2008
From: hammack at GotSlack.org (Jim Hammack)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:43:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4845F333.3000906@GotSlack.org>

   That's  why we numbered ours in the upper right-hand corner.  Black if
   the  card  never  had  to  be  changed,  and  red  if we had to change
   something - like a 7-track tape number.
   Jim Johnson wrote:

Anybody ever trip over their feet while carrying a program on a 3 foot stack
of punch cards. In 1963 IBM moved me to parts assembly at the Endwell, NY
lab when I had an unfortunate stumble on the way to the mainframe in the
Owego Lab's basement....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

You had SWITCHES ??????
I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>

On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:

We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register switches
to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
were the days...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun  3 19:49:05 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 18:49:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000301c8c5e5$2db88830$cc1df304@spider>

My '79 is in the garage where it's been for three years. Put it back
together and started making mistakes; gumption traps. Couldn't get back on
the horse that'd thrown me. ...bill in Oregon (VIN = GAN6UL223200 G, head
no. TKC 3239, block no. FP73055UE)

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com> 

 . . .
> > 
> > I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is here,
where 
> > are 
> > all the sports cars? 
> > 
> > Greg Higgins 
> > 63 sprite 
> > _______________________________________________ 

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 19:54:15 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:54:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <4845F333.3000906@GotSlack.org>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com>
	<43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com>
	<4845F333.3000906@GotSlack.org>
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Gotta love a power failure in the middle of a tornado with 1/2 the  
stack in the reader. Shreds about 25% of the cards. Was a SAS run for  
my dissertation. Had to re-key the whole set.

Larry

On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Jim Hammack wrote:

>   That's  why we numbered ours in the upper right-hand corner.   
> Black if
>   the  card  never  had  to  be  changed,  and  red  if we had to  
> change
>   something - like a 7-track tape number.
>   Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> Anybody ever trip over their feet while carrying a program on a 3  
> foot stack
> of punch cards. In 1963 IBM moved me to parts assembly at the  
> Endwell, NY
> lab when I had an unfortunate stumble on the way to the mainframe in  
> the
> Owego Lab's basement....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>
> You had SWITCHES ??????
> I had to use a plug-board   !!    <Grin>
>
> On 3 Jun 2008 at 11:48, David Lieb wrote:
>
> We used to dream about paper tape! I remember using register switches
> to boot up the diagnostics on a DEC PDP8 after setting the power
> supply voltage with the reostat on the back of the unit. Aye, those
> were the days...
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>   Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 19:56:03 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:56:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers
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Message-ID: <34FD020B-06F6-446D-A8F4-1FCA28A71E9B@phillymgclub.com>

Somebody swapped the arms. I do not recall when they went to black,  
but the black ones were mostly just painted.

Larry

On Jun 3, 2008, at 11:34 AM, John Colclasure wrote:

> Hey folks, I just recieved an order from Moss with wiperblades for a  
> 79 midget. The odd thing is I kept telling the folks at Moss my  
> blades are stainless steel, but they insisted that they are supposed  
> to be black...Well, against my better judgement I went ahead and  
> ordered them. Low and behold, I guess I was right because they do  
> not fit the same, and cannot go on the arms that are already on  
> there,...(Different connection)..My question is did some of the 79's  
> come with the stainless wipers (not the spoon type connector), or  
> have I run into a past owner that swapped out the arms and blade of  
> one of the older Midgets. Someone told me I could just take the  
> rubbber off of one and put it on the other, but honestly I cannot  
> see where that can be done...
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 20:01:54 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:01:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
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Took my 78 to the train station today. Didn't even see a 'vertible  
with the top down.

Larry

On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:47 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> Took my 74 in to work today saw one parked in someones driveway on  
> the way in and passed a 75+ on the way home.  We did the whole honk  
> and wave thing. last week I passed a MGA on a lovely spridget road.
> ryan
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
>
>> "...a long time passing." PP&M
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Greg Higgins wrote:
>>
>>> I just finished driving 8 k. miles and traveled through 21 States,  
>>> I only
>>> saw
>>> 1 British sports car, a TR6 in Charleston, S.C.
>>>
>>> I didn't even see any wrecks sitting in any fields. Spring is  
>>> here, where
>>> are
>>> all the sports cars?
>>>
>>> Greg Higgins
>>> 63 sprite
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>
>>> You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com
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Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
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Philadelphia MG Club


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 20:05:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:05:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov><484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com><43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com><4845F333.3000906@GotSlack.org>
	<9722AF20-CEDB-492B-B36C-052AC69A3F6C@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <B1A502BFB5C843CEB33460103776FE97@midget>

> Gotta love a power failure in the middle of a tornado with 1/2 the
> stack in the reader. Shreds about 25% of the cards. Was a SAS run for  > 
> my dissertation. Had to re-key the whole set.

Gotta love somebody who would start a stack in the reader with a tornado 
warning out ;-) The hurrier I go the behinder I get? 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 20:09:37 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:09:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wipers
In-Reply-To: <34FD020B-06F6-446D-A8F4-1FCA28A71E9B@phillymgclub.com>
References: <748907.20635.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<34FD020B-06F6-446D-A8F4-1FCA28A71E9B@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4845F961.8080908@comcast.net>

Larry Macy wrote:
> Somebody swapped the arms. I do not recall when they went to black,  
> but the black ones were mostly just painted.
>
>
>   
True, I have steel wooled off the black on a pair of later wipers and 
have them on my 67.
Why? because I had them in the milk crate and they look just fine all 
polished up.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 20:13:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:13:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <ECA2B57A-E442-4F77-A5AD-183A95E84308@phillymgclub.com>
References: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<ECA2B57A-E442-4F77-A5AD-183A95E84308@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4845FA5A.703@comcast.net>

Larry Macy wrote:
> Took my 78 to the train station today. Didn't even see a 'vertible  
> with the top down.
>
>   
I have to say the old gal up the street has a Chrysler Sebring rag top, 
that top is down more than it's up.
But what's up with Miata owners? The other day it was 75* and perfect, I 
was out in one or 2 of the Sprites and I saw 3 miatas all with the tops 
up and windows up meaning those wussys had their AC on.
Girly men I tell ya!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun  3 20:13:38 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 22:13:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <B1A502BFB5C843CEB33460103776FE97@midget>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net><5547304A0B5048DBB9F1EFA791727896@NilesAD.von.gov><484522F6.7681.20542F@dmg.bossig.com><43840a7e0806031417v6b83530ar7ec6d058dd9cd506@mail.gmail.com><4845F333.3000906@GotSlack.org>
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	<B1A502BFB5C843CEB33460103776FE97@midget>
Message-ID: <B6A7287E-C8B1-4850-9EE0-98DE79777187@phillymgclub.com>

Hey I was in the basement where the reader was. I had no idea what the  
weather was, it was like 1 AM. And I didn't know Jim!!

Larry

On Jun 3, 2008, at 10:05 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Gotta love a power failure in the middle of a tornado with 1/2 the
>> stack in the reader. Shreds about 25% of the cards. Was a SAS run  
>> for  >
>> my dissertation. Had to re-key the whole set.
>
> Gotta love somebody who would start a stack in the reader with a  
> tornado
> warning out ;-) The hurrier I go the behinder I get?
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Larry Macy
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.



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From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Jun  3 20:14:21 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:14:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <E1K3hoN-000823-7u@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20080604021409.44E39187647@autox.team.net>

Sounds like you should get a Jag to me.
		Crash


I did have one guy come up from my right rear and honk his horn, just like
the good old days.   I guess he thought I was stuck up because I did not
wave back at him and his Miata.  With the top up.   (Do they make tops for a
Bugeye?)

 

Buster

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Jun  3 20:18:54 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:18:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <4845FA5A.703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080604021842.2F502187647@autox.team.net>

Because they can? Same reason I haven't taken the hardtop off my Wrangler in
two years.
		Crash

But what's up with Miata owners? The other day it was 75* and perfect, I 
was out in one or 2 of the Sprites and I saw 3 miatas all with the tops 
up and windows up meaning those wussys had their AC on.
Girly men I tell ya!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  3 20:29:17 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 21:29:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
References: <20080604021409.44E39187647@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <024501c8c5ea$ca2ff9a0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Carrie and I had her MGB out for a couple hours on this past Sunday.  We saw 
exactly one Brit car and that was an E-Type Jag.  As we approached each 
other on the highway he (she, they?) flashed their headlights and waved like 
crazy.  We returned the wave like one LBC to another.  Fortunately, not 
everybody has attitude problems around here.

LAD




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
To: "'B- Evans'" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??


Sounds like you should get a Jag to me.
Crash


I did have one guy come up from my right rear and honk his horn, just like
the good old days.   I guess he thought I was stuck up because I did not
wave back at him and his Miata.  With the top up.   (Do they make tops for a
Bugeye?)



Buster
_______________________________________________

From RampantNM at aol.com  Tue Jun  3 21:05:45 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:05:45 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
Message-ID: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/3/2008 5:23:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Nutria  allele distribution 


You were studying giant rats?
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for experienced 
hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected and 
adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun  3 21:38:26 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 20:38:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] tappet threads?
Message-ID: <266764076.20080603203826@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  anyone out there know offhand what the threads/inch of the tappet
  adjusters?....i've been assuming they are 14/28, .. National Fine
  Thread... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  "I tried to think but nothing happened!" - Curly 

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Jun  3 21:42:14 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 20:42:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <E1K3hoN-000823-7u@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K3hoN-000823-7u@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48460F16.2000603@b2systems.com>

> What I find incredible, however, is the dearth of classic sports cars on the
> roads of Southern California.  This, after all, is the land God created for
> them!  I have seen in the past few weeks one MG TD and one MG TD, and that
> is it.
>   
  You are in the wrong part of S. Calif. in that case, my Singer was 
parked next to a +4 Morgan yesterday and twice last week at UCSB, this 
weekend my other toy FIAT Dino Spider was out having fun with me and 
tomorrow the Dino will take its turn at works parking lot, probably next 
to the Morgan again.  A really nice Moggie too, not up to speed on my 
Moggie years but it has what appears to be its original BRG paint as its 
pretty badly faded and it sounds pretty good, interior looks original 
too, I still have not spoken to the owner and I rarely saw the car there 
until last week, guess his daily driver broke and he is driving 
something reliable now :)

> I did have one guy come up from my right rear and honk his horn, just like
> the good old days.   I guess he thought I was stuck up because I did not
> wave back at him and his Miata.  With the top up.   (Do they make tops for a
> Bugeye?)
 I have to agree, there are not as many toys as there used to be and now 
that my Singer is sold (waiting for the money) it wont be on the S. 
Calif. roads anymore, that just means I will have to drive the Dino more 
often (some don't but I do consider the Dino a classic sports car).  By 
Christmas the next Singer will be on the road with 2x4's for seats maybe 
but driveable at least, that is the goal and since it is Spridget 
powered, look out I will come up behind you and honk my horns and you 
better wave back or I will think you are stuck up also.

 Mike

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun  3 23:23:26 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 00:23:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A31C41B7-2FFF-4B87-AC93-B06937EF374C@comcast.net>

Yup..  seems that the fur industry uses the hides as a liner for furs  
and they wanted to know where the best ones came from.  Actually I was  
not the guy grinding up the nutria embryos or nutria bits for the  
starch gel electrophoresis  (He started this with all that 4D crap) I  
was the one trying to program in this formula from a published article  
that would determine somethingerother and after several attempts at  
running data I actually looked at that formula and USED COLLEGE  
CALCULUS!!  I figured out that the published formula was not the  
derivative that it should have been..

hmm.. probably too much info..  it's late..

Lester

On Jun 3, 2008, at 10:05 PM, RampantNM at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 6/3/2008 5:23:01 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
> Nutria  allele distribution
>
>
> You were studying giant rats?
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners  
> Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly  
> formed,
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for  
> experienced
> hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected  
> and
> adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 00:57:16 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 23:57:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>

We have those in Oregon.

Tastes just like chicken!

Herb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 01:34:49 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 02:34:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>

Anybody got a picture of the insides of a 45D4 dizzy (early 1275
application)? I need to figure out how the pigtail and the condensor wires
connect. Should have taken a pic before I changed to the Pertronix! Now
going back to points I'm a bit lost and the Haynes is no help.

The car died on Thursday. I found the Pertronix wire had come off the coil.
Put it back on and found no spark. Now even with the points back in it I
have no spark. Could the coil have shorted out when the wire came off?
Either that or I have something connected wrong in the dizzy....  It doesn't
seem to be in the ignition switch becuase everything else in that circuit is
working fine.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 07:04:17 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:04:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>

We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun  4 07:20:48 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>

Jim,
         Don't need a picture. The two wires, 1 condenser, 1 LT, must 
be together, and touching ONLY the spring of the points. DO NOT allow 
them to touch the post. The points are a switch to ground, where in 
the stationary point is ground, so the movable one must be "hot". The 
usual error is to attach the wires to the post thereby grounding 
them. There have been several interchangeable iterations of points 
over the years that accomplish the insulation from ground different 
ways, be it plastic post, plastic insulator, but if you keep the 
principle as above, you'll have no troubles.... or as Paul A says 
"They only go in one way."

         Peter C.
(Oh, and by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an 
MGB distributor (among others), and works just fine.)

=
At 02:34 AM 6/4/2008, you wrote:
>Anybody got a picture of the insides of a 45D4 dizzy (early 1275
>application)? I need to figure out how the pigtail and the condensor wires
>connect. Should have taken a pic before I changed to the Pertronix! Now
>going back to points I'm a bit lost and the Haynes is no help.
>
>The car died on Thursday. I found the Pertronix wire had come off the coil.
>Put it back on and found no spark. Now even with the points back in it I
>have no spark. Could the coil have shorted out when the wire came off?
>Either that or I have something connected wrong in the dizzy....  It doesn't
>seem to be in the ignition switch becuase everything else in that circuit is
>working fine.
>--
>Cheers!!
>Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
>Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
>2008!!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  4 07:23:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:23:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <4845FA5A.703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F400E21932A62D8070D1243B8B50@phx.gbl>

I used to have family support for the top down transportation, but it isn't 
as popular anymore.  Wouldn't want our hair to get messed, don't ya know?  
So, if I had a Miata, ( and the thought has crossed my mind ), I would 
imagine that with a passenger, the ac might be on and the top might be up 
and I could readily change back and forth.  I leave the Midget top down and 
am a fair weather driver, but the family car gets driven more when 
passengers get involved.

I have the little old lady from Pasedena living around the corner from me.  
She drives an XK8 ( not up on Jags ); she looks like she's well into her 
80's and she moves along quite nicely.  ( Hardtop though. )

What worries me, is that you don't know if you were in 1 or 2 Sprites!!  :)


----Original Message Follows----
From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>

Larry Macy wrote:
 > Took my 78 to the train station today. Didn't even see a 'vertible
 > with the top down.
 >
 >
I have to say the old gal up the street has a Chrysler Sebring rag top,
that top is down more than it's up.
But what's up with Miata owners? The other day it was 75* and perfect, I
was out in one or 2 of the Sprites and I saw 3 miatas all with the tops
up and windows up meaning those wussys had their AC on.
Girly men I tell ya!


--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  4 07:31:03 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:31:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <E1K3hoN-000823-7u@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F344F1CEA8533684A285A09B8B50@phx.gbl>

So, why didn't you wave?

Maybe you should have let him get alongsdie and asked" "Hey, nice car, but, 
what's that black thing over your head?"


----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
I did have one guy come up from my right rear and honk his horn, just like
the good old days.   I guess he thought I was stuck up because I did not
wave back at him and his Miata.  With the top up.   (Do they make tops for a
Bugeye?)

Buster

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 07:48:15 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5644B343-FC36-40E3-AF53-B983CA31734C@comcast.net>

REMEMBER!!!

A Nutria "eatout" is NOT where you go to have fried Nutria but where  
the Nutria have denuded the surrounding grasslands/swamp/marsh.   
hmm..  there may not be as many Nutria as there used to be since  
Katrina..

Lester

PETA Member for Life
(People Eating Tasty Animals)


On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:57 AM, WFO Herb wrote:

> We have those in Oregon.
>
> Tastes just like chicken!
>
> Herb
> _____

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 07:50:46 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:50:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>

Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's  
like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of  
these folk have seen a beaver..

.. wait for it....  ;-)

Lester

On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:

> We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  4 08:18:46 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:18:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F395E28442A3418E4335A25B8B50@phx.gbl>

I had to look up Nutria.  The definition said that it has a "round, nearly 
hairless tail".  Does that help any?

----Original Message Follows----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>

Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
these folk have seen a beaver..

.. wait for it....  ;-)

Lester

On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:

 > We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 09:03:23 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:03:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806040803l69eecanea73e05c995fe4e1@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen LOTS of beavers, without flat tails, I just never knew they were
called Nutria. I guess I've been using the wrong word all these years.
I have to make sure to look at the "Nutria" photos at home, cuz work gets
upset if you do it here.

LOL

There, the other shoe dropped........

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
> these folk have seen a beaver..
>
> .. wait for it....  ;-)
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:
>
> > We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.
> > _______________________________________________
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 09:16:18 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:16:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806040803l69eecanea73e05c995fe4e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
	<e98d88090806040803l69eecanea73e05c995fe4e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BEC5EAC3-7A95-40D1-9A65-957B7158AFAE@comcast.net>

Thanks for playing along!  ;-)

Lester

On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> I've seen LOTS of beavers, without flat tails, I just never knew  
> they were called Nutria. I guess I've been using the wrong word all  
> these years.
> I have to make sure to look at the "Nutria" photos at home, cuz  
> work gets upset if you do it here.
>
> LOL
>
> There, the other shoe dropped........
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
> these folk have seen a beaver..
>
> .. wait for it....  ;-)
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:
>
> > We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.
> > _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 09:19:45 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:19:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
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What do you mean? I DID NOT know that nearly hairless beavers are called
Nutria.
It appears that there are quite a few of them around these days.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks for playing along!  ;-)
> Lester
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> I've seen LOTS of beavers, without flat tails, I just never knew they were
> called Nutria. I guess I've been using the wrong word all these years.
> I have to make sure to look at the "Nutria" photos at home, cuz work gets
> upset if you do it here.
>
> LOL
>
> There, the other shoe dropped........
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
>> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
>> these folk have seen a beaver..
>>
>> .. wait for it....  ;-)
>>
>> Lester
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:
>>
>> > We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 09:33:19 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:33:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
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Now there you go again..  the Nutria are not nearly hairless, it's  
the Nutria's tail that is nearly hairless..  quite frankly I that  
puts a mental image of the hairy ones in my brain forever..

Lester


On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> What do you mean? I DID NOT know that nearly hairless beavers are  
> called Nutria.
> It appears that there are quite a few of them around these days.
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>  
> wrote:
> Thanks for playing along!  ;-)
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>> I've seen LOTS of beavers, without flat tails, I just never knew  
>> they were called Nutria. I guess I've been using the wrong word  
>> all these years.
>> I have to make sure to look at the "Nutria" photos at home, cuz  
>> work gets upset if you do it here.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> There, the other shoe dropped........
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>  
>> wrote:
>> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
>> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
>> these folk have seen a beaver..
>>
>> .. wait for it....  ;-)
>>
>> Lester
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, derf wrote:
>>
>> > We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 10:26:52 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:26:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
Message-ID: <d25.2aa28517.35781c4c@aol.com>

Just curious, they inhabited a late in Texas where I grew up hunting and  
fishing...nasty animals.  Then when I lived in New Orleans for a while they  
seemed to be everywhere.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 6/3/2008 11:23:43 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Yup..  seems that the fur industry uses the hides as a liner for  furs  
and they wanted to know where the best ones came  from. 





**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 10:29:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 12:29:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <cb6.2eede8a8.35781cfa@aol.com>

Daily car parking #7.50 and petrol at #5 a gallon.

In a message dated 03/06/2008 23:19:25 GMT Daylight Time,
mikey at b2systems.com writes:






But why not drive the Sprite to work ?  my  L.B.C. is in the parking lot
here at UCSB and its here a few times a week  ( I share my driving time
with several cars ).

mike

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Mine is in my garage but if you  are driving in Warwickshire Saturday I
will
> be driving  it.  Today I had to go to work to earn a living.  Sadly
driving my
> Sprite does not earn me a living...
>
>  In a message dated 03/06/2008 19:50:56 GMT Daylight Time,
>  g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes:
>
> where  are
> all the  sports cars?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  4 10:40:27 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:40:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
Message-ID: <E1K3w2G-0002aA-3f@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Maybe you should have let him get alongsdie and asked" "Hey, nice car, but,
what's that black thing over your head?"

 

And just how would he hear me with his top up, the air conditioning on, and
his stereo system turned up so I could hear it?

 

Besides, when people honk their horn and wave at you around here, you have
to count their fingers.   Usually only one or two.

 

Busrter

From hal at katemuir.com  Wed Jun  4 10:45:31 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 09:45:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] tappet threads?
In-Reply-To: <266764076.20080603203826@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFOEDHHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Bill
I measure 26TPI Definitely NOT 1.0mm pitch.  The od of the threads is .2752"
or 6.991mm.  My hole guage says 9/16". Since I don't have a thread mic I
can't say exactly! Hmmm, maybe I need to order one....
Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Bill L
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:38 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] tappet threads?


Hello Spridgets,

  anyone out there know offhand what the threads/inch of the tappet
  adjusters?....i've been assuming they are 14/28, .. National Fine
  Thread...

--
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  "I tried to think but nothing happened!" - Curly

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 10:52:37 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 11:52:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>

Yup!  That's my problem then!

Thanks to Howard for the picture!

Question on the Pertronix...   Why would one suddenly quit working about 20
minutes into a drive?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/4/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>        Don't need a picture. The two wires, 1 condenser, 1 LT, must be
> together, and touching ONLY the spring of the points. DO NOT allow them to
> touch the post. The points are a switch to ground, where in the stationary
> point is ground, so the movable one must be "hot". The usual error is to
> attach the wires to the post thereby grounding them. There have been several
> interchangeable iterations of points over the years that accomplish the
> insulation from ground different ways, be it plastic post, plastic
> insulator, but if you keep the principle as above, you'll have no
> troubles.... or as Paul A says "They only go in one way."
>
>        Peter C.
> (Oh, and by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an MGB
> distributor (among others), and works just fine.)
>
> =
> At 02:34 AM 6/4/2008, you wrote:
>
>> Anybody got a picture of the insides of a 45D4 dizzy (early 1275
>> application)? I need to figure out how the pigtail and the condensor wires
>> connect. Should have taken a pic before I changed to the Pertronix! Now
>> going back to points I'm a bit lost and the Haynes is no help.
>>
>> The car died on Thursday. I found the Pertronix wire had come off the
>> coil.
>> Put it back on and found no spark. Now even with the points back in it I
>> have no spark. Could the coil have shorted out when the wire came off?
>> Either that or I have something connected wrong in the dizzy....  It
>> doesn't
>> seem to be in the ignition switch becuase everything else in that circuit
>> is
>> working fine.
>> --
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
>> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
>> 2008!!
>>
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  4 10:58:05 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:58:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <E1K3w2G-0002aA-3f@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F38B3CB0003F36164C7B1C9B8B50@phx.gbl>

:)  Point to the top with a perplexed look on your face.

People honk, I wave and smile.  If they're trying to be annoying, they 
usually pop a gasket, but hey ... it's their gasket.  I let them figure out 
their own fingers.  Works for me!! :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>

Maybe you should have let him get alongsdie and asked" "Hey, nice car, but,
what's that black thing over your head?"

And just how would he hear me with his top up, the air conditioning on, and
his stereo system turned up so I could hear it?

Besides, when people honk their horn and wave at you around here, you have
to count their fingers.   Usually only one or two.

Busrter

From RampantNM at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 11:06:50 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:06:50 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
Message-ID: <caa.2d14ebbc.357825aa@aol.com>

>From my memory, you must have some damn big chickens!
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 6/4/2008 7:04:36 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
derf247 at gmail.com writes:

We have  them in Louisiana, and they get as large as  chickens





**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 11:15:04 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:15:04 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
Message-ID: <c7c.2ace227e.35782798@aol.com>

In America maybe but here in the UK the 45D4 was used.
 
In a message dated 04/06/2008 14:21:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Oh, and  by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an 
MGB  distributor 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 11:20:23 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:20:23 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
Message-ID: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>

PPP is right!  It was the 1500 Midget that got the 45D4.  I've  had a 45D4 
for so many years Iv'e forgotten it wasn't an OE fit!   Transverse A-series used 
the 45D4 though.
 
In a message dated 04/06/2008 18:15:04 GMT Daylight Time, Weslake1330  writes:

In America maybe but here in the UK the 45D4 was used.
 
In a message dated 04/06/2008 14:21:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Oh,  and by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an 
MGB  distributor 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun  4 11:38:33 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:38:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
In-Reply-To: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>
References: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>

At 12:20 PM 6/4/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>PPP is right!

I detect a note of surprise......
         whyzat?

LOL

>  It was the 1500 Midget that got the 45D4.  I've had a 45D4 for so 
> many years Iv'e forgotten it wasn't an OE fit!  Transverse A-series 
> used the 45D4 though.
>
>In a message dated 04/06/2008 18:15:04 GMT Daylight Time, Weslake1330 writes:
>In America maybe but here in the UK the 45D4 was used.
>
>In a message dated 04/06/2008 14:21:19 GMT Daylight Time, 
>peter at nosimport.com writes:
>Oh, and by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an
>MGB distributor

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed Jun  4 12:31:38 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:31:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <939B97DA-D831-4CE4-8E85-109FBED995B4@mac.com>

On Jun 4, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Yup!  That's my problem then!
>
> Thanks to Howard for the picture!
>
> Question on the Pertronix...   Why would one suddenly quit working  
> about 20
> minutes into a drive?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim


>

Because it is solid state electronics.

> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
> 2000 Miata Special Edition

From bpazur at excel.net  Wed Jun  4 12:54:13 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:54:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss - A Slight Reprise
Message-ID: <200806041854.m54IsDnN010463@green.excel.net>

After checking and switching out anything and everthing that could be causing
the miss, and having absolutely no luck, I decided to start all over again.
First thing were the floats. Floats still looked fine. But then I had this
weird hunch. I emptied the gas out of the chambers and blew compressed air
thru the jet tubes from the carb (needle) end thru to the float chamber.
Guess what - the front tube was completely clogged! I took the tube off, blew
it out both ways. I must have dislodged something, although I never saw the
little goober, because all of a sudden, it was clear. I re-installed it, took
the car for a test drive, and - no miss! Can't understand what clogged it or
where it came from (I have a Fram fuel filter inline). But, who cares! And at
least now I know a lot of things (like dwell, timing, gaps, carbs, wires,
condenser, gaskets, etc, are all set and functioning correctly). Thanks for
all your responses.

Bud


Bud Pazur

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 13:02:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>
References: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806041202w1d74b7abje43a90abd15666b0@mail.gmail.com>

Well, to be clear, I "ass-U-me"d it was a 45D4 from the pics and captions in
my Haynes. In actual fact, the vacuum advance fitting has "25D" on it.
Sorry for the confusion.

The ground wire looks good and I have cleaned the connections on it. Still
no dice with the Pertronix so I'm going back to points and condenser. (Yeah,
Frank...  You told me so!!).

100 Degs F out in the garage right now. I'll wait till after dark to work on
it..

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 12:20 PM 6/4/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> PPP is right!
>>
>
> I detect a note of surprise......
>        whyzat?
>
> LOL
>
>
>   It was the 1500 Midget that got the 45D4.  I've had a 45D4 for so many
>> years Iv'e forgotten it wasn't an OE fit!  Transverse A-series used the 45D4
>> though.
>>
>> In a message dated 04/06/2008 18:15:04 GMT Daylight Time, Weslake1330
>> writes:
>> In America maybe but here in the UK the 45D4 was used.
>>
>> In a message dated 04/06/2008 14:21:19 GMT Daylight Time,
>> peter at nosimport.com writes:
>> Oh, and by the way, 1275 would have either a 25D or a 23D. 45D is an
>> MGB distributor
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 13:07:31 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:07:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <939B97DA-D831-4CE4-8E85-109FBED995B4@mac.com>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
	<939B97DA-D831-4CE4-8E85-109FBED995B4@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806041207h23668751oa4c3c80dc605701a@mail.gmail.com>

Pertronix are funny about wiring.  If you leave the key on and the
motor off, they can be damaged.  I had one in a boat a while back and
it worked great.  I never had trouble with it but I had the boat wired
so that I could run accessories separately from the engine.
I always preferred the Crane system or the system in the Isuzu dizzy
that I ran for a while in the Midget.
The last Midget I bought  had a similar problem when I got it.  The
points and condenser were changed, installed improperly, and the
ignition system was essentially grounded out.  The starter was also
toast, I assume due to the ignition being dead and someone trying to
get the thing to start.
I moved the wire in the dizzy to the insulator, fixed the starter, and
walla, running Spridget.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 13:09:34 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:09:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806041202w1d74b7abje43a90abd15666b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806041202w1d74b7abje43a90abd15666b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806041209u4c0efd8bk70d5adb742dfb51b@mail.gmail.com>

I think the best advice on dizzys came from Frank C many years ago:
"Carry a spare dizzy in the boot."

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 13:20:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:20:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806041207h23668751oa4c3c80dc605701a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
	<939B97DA-D831-4CE4-8E85-109FBED995B4@mac.com>
	<5f00d9910806041207h23668751oa4c3c80dc605701a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806041220l7b1a559waf26f8ae4000276d@mail.gmail.com>

Ah ha!!  So I'm not even an original idiot!!  Someone has been this stupid
before!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:07 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pertronix are funny about wiring.  If you leave the key on and the
> motor off, they can be damaged.  I had one in a boat a while back and
> it worked great.  I never had trouble with it but I had the boat wired
> so that I could run accessories separately from the engine.
> I always preferred the Crane system or the system in the Isuzu dizzy
> that I ran for a while in the Midget.
> The last Midget I bought  had a similar problem when I got it.  The
> points and condenser were changed, installed improperly, and the
> ignition system was essentially grounded out.  The starter was also
> toast, I assume due to the ignition being dead and someone trying to
> get the thing to start.
> I moved the wire in the dizzy to the insulator, fixed the starter, and
> walla, running Spridget.
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 13:22:58 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:22:58 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
Message-ID: <cef.3572907e.35784592@aol.com>

It doesn't make me look so bad?
 
In a message dated 04/06/2008 18:39:30 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

I detect  a note of surprise......
whyzat?

LOL

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Jun  4 13:26:26 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
Message-ID: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>

All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on this
list brew their own beer?  If so, would you be willing to share do's and
dont's off list with me.  I've been thinking about brewing my own, what with
all the Bud Light BS around here.  I want some real beer, but around here,
all you can get in the restaurants is Bud, Bud Light, blah, blah, blah.
Jesus, what a monopoly they have.
 
Heard Saxon

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun  4 13:42:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:42:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <460CBEE26BA24F5C87BEB8437BC2B6B5@NilesAD.von.gov>

> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on 
> this
> list brew their own beer? ....

Ya know, Heard Saxon Ale sounds like a winner
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun  4 14:00:59 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:00:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Skanky Miss - A Slight Reprise
References: <200806041854.m54IsDnN010463@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <0F89DA4AEEC84BCDA5EEF848C63648AB@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Bud,

You've proven what we all eventually learn about these cars.  Chasing down a 
difficult problem ends up teaching you about all the other things that 
AREN'T causing the problem.  One learns little from success.  By the time I 
was done fitting the Megasquirt I felt I could make anything run. 
Congratulations!

Glen

> After checking and switching out anything and everthing that could be 
> causing
> the miss, and having absolutely no luck, I decided to start all over 
> again.
> First thing were the floats. Floats still looked fine. But then I had this
> weird hunch. I emptied the gas out of the chambers and blew compressed air
> thru the jet tubes from the carb (needle) end thru to the float chamber.
> Guess what - the front tube was completely clogged! I took the tube off, 
> blew
> it out both ways. I must have dislodged something, although I never saw 
> the
> little goober, because all of a sudden, it was clear. I re-installed it, 
> took
> the car for a test drive, and - no miss! Can't understand what clogged it 
> or
> where it came from (I have a Fram fuel filter inline). But, who cares! And 
> at
> least now I know a lot of things (like dwell, timing, gaps, carbs, wires,
> condenser, gaskets, etc, are all set and functioning correctly). Thanks 
> for
> all your responses.
>
> Bud

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Jun  4 14:09:40 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:09:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <4846F684.8020402@verizon.net>

I have been brewing off and on since the 70's. I prefer ale yeast,
a glass fermenter, Chocolate Malt, Roast Barley, and loads of
hops. I generally bottle only because I have the bottles AND as we
drink more wine that ale, it keeps better over time than kegged.

Wotcher need??

BTW - I way prefer British hand-pulled ales to amurican gas.
So I do bottle-conditioned rather than gas-injected.

chuck

Heard wrote:
> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on this
> list brew their own beer?  

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Jun  4 14:17:50 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:17:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <460CBEE26BA24F5C87BEB8437BC2B6B5@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
	<460CBEE26BA24F5C87BEB8437BC2B6B5@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <013501c8c680$0feea230$1801010a@xp>

Hey Dave,
Well, I do live at a place historically called Ft. Florida.  Since I now own
it, I have changed it to Ft. Floridaze.  It seems like this becomes your
prevailing condition when you get to sitting around looking at the river for
a while with a beer or six. So I need a good beer with a name that reflects
this...96 degrees in the shade, sitting around watching a tanin stained
river that frequently flows backward, gators, fish hawks, the moss covered
cypress, the old Ft. Florida steamboat landing dock pilings in my backyard,
Skynyrd on the radio, ...you get the idea.  But I need a good recipe first,
and I'm just sure some listers have been down this road.
Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:42 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer

> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on 
> this list brew their own beer? ....

Ya know, Heard Saxon Ale sounds like a winner David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 14:26:45 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:26:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
Message-ID: <060420082026.4131.4846FA850009C9B3000010232216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Makes you wonder why they have more than one tap---all that tasteless stuff is the same.   Bud, bud light, miller, miller light.  Just recently our locals have begun carrying Yeungling, both on tap and in containers.  It is a huge step above the Bud conundrum and I have been ordering it.

 Yep--I have made several stabs at making my own brew over the years.  Some good, some awful.  I think the best I made was when I got away from using a "kit" and went to a brew store and  purchased real hops and real malt, and real ale yeast, etc., according to a recipe.  And I used spring water from a local spring to get away from chlorination.

There is a book available, yet, it's title is "The Idiot's Guide to Homebrewing."  Pretty good manual with recipes.

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>
> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on this
> list brew their own beer?  If so, would you be willing to share do's and
> dont's off list with me.  I've been thinking about brewing my own, what with
> all the Bud Light BS around here.  I want some real beer, but around here,
> all you can get in the restaurants is Bud, Bud Light, blah, blah, blah.
> Jesus, what a monopoly they have.
>  
> Heard Saxon
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun  4 14:28:35 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 13:28:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <013501c8c680$0feea230$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp><460CBEE26BA24F5C87BEB8437BC2B6B5@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<013501c8c680$0feea230$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <006a01c8c681$919ee690$c003f204@spider>

You are blessed, several times over. Tip one for me. ...bill in oregon

=======================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Heard
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 1:18 PM
To: 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer

Hey Dave,
Well, I do live at a place historically called Ft. Florida.  Since I now own
it, I have changed it to Ft. Floridaze.  It seems like this becomes your
prevailing condition when you get to sitting around looking at the river for
a while with a beer or six. So I need a good beer with a name that reflects
this...96 degrees in the shade, sitting around watching a tannin stained
river that frequently flows backward, gators, fish hawks, the moss covered
cypress, the old Ft. Florida steamboat landing dock pilings in my backyard,
Skynyrd on the radio, ...you get the idea.  But I need a good recipe first,
and I'm just sure some listeners have been down this road.
Heard

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 14:30:21 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:30:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
Message-ID: <060420082030.16170.4846FB5D000C315E00003F2A2216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

But she gets real upset whenever I try to put her in the boot!

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
> I think the best advice on dizzys came from Frank C many years ago:
> "Carry a spare dizzy in the boot."
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Wed Jun  4 14:52:02 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:52:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <34192.164.58.184.10.1212612722.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

Yes, I do.  I've been doing it for about 5 years now. I only brew about 3
batches a year.

DO:
Sterilize
did I say sterilize? Nothing like providing bacteria a nice place to grow,
with lots of yeast and sugar.

-start with all inclusive kits, even the Mr Beer kits aren't bad, to at
least see if you like it.
-find a local group, every decent size town/city has home brewers.  Check
the local brew pubs etc.
-Sterilize and don't cut corners.
-sample your brew through out the brewing process, this will give you an
idea as a brewer what your wort and such is doing. Plus you will begin to
acquire a taste for what is right and wrong.

Don't:
Drink Bud
give up if a batch goes south on you and it will happen
be afraid to ask questions.
be afraid to experiment

I'm fortunate that we have a home brew shop here in OKC, Chuck is a great
guy and loves beer and beer makers, plus he plays the bagpipes to boot in
his shop.  He sells over the internet as well, and will talk and walk you
through anything.

Jim Johnson and others on the list are also avid home brewers as well and
I'm sure they will chime in.

Charlie
OKC,OK
mead in the ferm.
honey wheat in secondary





> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on
> this
> list brew their own beer?  If so, would you be willing to share do's and
> dont's off list with me.  I've been thinking about brewing my own, what
> with
> all the Bud Light BS around here.  I want some real beer, but around here,
> all you can get in the restaurants is Bud, Bud Light, blah, blah, blah.
> Jesus, what a monopoly they have.
>
> Heard Saxon
> _______________________________________________

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Wed Jun  4 14:55:15 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:55:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <013501c8c680$0feea230$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
	<460CBEE26BA24F5C87BEB8437BC2B6B5@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<013501c8c680$0feea230$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <34974.164.58.184.10.1212612915.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

Well in that kind of heat I like a mildly hopped beer maybe even go sweet
like a framboise or something another.  Can't go wrong with a decent wheat
brew, cool and light on the tongue...good for just sitting back.

But then an English Nut beer is good anytime as well...and is good at
about 50 plus degrees (drinking temp)

Charlie

> Hey Dave,
> Well, I do live at a place historically called Ft. Florida.  Since I now
> own
> it, I have changed it to Ft. Floridaze.  It seems like this becomes your
> prevailing condition when you get to sitting around looking at the river
> for
> a while with a beer or six. So I need a good beer with a name that
> reflects
> this...96 degrees in the shade, sitting around watching a tanin stained
> river that frequently flows backward, gators, fish hawks, the moss covered
> cypress, the old Ft. Florida steamboat landing dock pilings in my
> backyard,
> Skynyrd on the radio, ...you get the idea.  But I need a good recipe
> first,
> and I'm just sure some listers have been down this road.
> Heard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of David Lieb
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:42 PM
> To: Spridget List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
>
>> All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on
>> this list brew their own beer? ....
>
> Ya know, Heard Saxon Ale sounds like a winner David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
> You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Wed Jun  4 14:57:57 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:57:57 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <35669.164.58.184.10.1212613077.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

As someone pointed out chlorinated or treated water does not make great
beer or wine.

If you are on a well then you are good to go, need those minerals to perk
it up a bit, but if "city" water is all you have then maybe some spring
water but make sure it isn't repackaged municiple water from somewhere
else.

Charlie

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Jun  4 15:15:43 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:15:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <cb6.2eede8a8.35781cfa@aol.com>
References: <cb6.2eede8a8.35781cfa@aol.com>
Message-ID: <484705FF.9050401@b2systems.com>

Ouch good reasons, I pay $36/month for parking at work and I complain 
about it.  Gas here is $4.65/gallon and I don't complain about it (ok ok 
I really do) as I drive the cars I want to drive, life is too short to 
not drive what you want to drive.

    mike

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Daily car parking #7.50 and petrol at #5 a gallon. 
>  
> In a message dated 03/06/2008 23:19:25 GMT Daylight Time, 
> mikey at b2systems.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     But why not drive the Sprite to work ?  my L.B.C. is in the
>     parking lot
>     here at UCSB and its here a few times a week ( I share my driving
>     time
>     with several cars ).
>
>         mike
>
>     Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>     > Mine is in my garage but if you are driving in Warwickshire
>     Saturday I will 
>     > be driving it.  Today I had to go to work to earn a living. 
>     Sadly  driving my
>     > Sprite does not earn me a living...
>     > 
>     > In a message dated 03/06/2008 19:50:56 GMT Daylight Time, 
>     > g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes:
>     >
>     > where  are
>     > all the sports cars?

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  4 15:20:26 2008
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:20:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <d25.2aa28517.35781c4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <887559.20586.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ever try this: http://tinyurl.com/6am55k

Rick

--- On Wed, 6/4/08, RampantNM at aol.com &lt;RampantNM at aol.com&gt; wrote:
From: RampantNM at aol.com &lt;RampantNM at aol.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nutria
To: oldsaabguy at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 12:26 PM

Just curious, they inhabited a late in Texas where I grew up hunting and  
fishing...nasty animals.  Then when I lived in New Orleans for a while they  
seemed to be everywhere.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  4 16:53:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:53:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors
References: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806041202w1d74b7abje43a90abd15666b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010901c8c695$d22e8530$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Well, to be clear, I "ass-U-me"d it was a 45D4 from the pics and captions in
my Haynes.>>

Mistake # 1, Jim!!  As I tell EVERBODY (ALL Marques), one SHOULD have Bentley Shop Service Manual AND, if lucky, the ORIGINAL Factory Shop Service Manual along with Haynes.  Hayles lies a lot<VBG>!!

<<In actual fact, the vacuum advance fitting has "25D" on it.>>

 You just went back to YOUR word abovr<G>!!  Just because the Vac. Adv. has a number on it "may" have NO bearing on the dizzy itself.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 16:37:23 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:37:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <35669.164.58.184.10.1212613077.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
	<35669.164.58.184.10.1212613077.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806041537i752d0dcbl95cc44f7af6794c5@mail.gmail.com>

Well, Charlie has hit a lot of the high points.  I've been at it for 35
years (yes, even before it was legal). I started kegging about 10 years ago
and always have a couple in the keggerator.
Right now its Scottish Ale and a nice British Best Bitter. A Belgian Ale in
the fermenter. I like the darker Ales but its all up to your own tastes.
I've had no problems with city water but have never really compared the some
recipe with and without so who knows?

As Charlie said, Sanitize is the magic word. Treat your brew and your
equipment like it was in the laboratory at the Center for Disease Control!!
The only failed batches of beer I've ever had were those that got infected
with bacteria or mold spores!

Some basic thoughts for the beginner:
1. Ales and stouts are much easier to brew and not nearly as fussy as pale
or blond beers, lagers, wheat beers, etc.  You can try those when you get a
little experience under your belt.
2. All extract ale kits are best to start with. You will get a nice beer
with a minimum of work and risk.
3. Twist top bottles are crap. Throw them out and use real bottles.
Champagne bottle work great!
4. Sterilize everything that will touch the beer in any way at any time.
5. Never use granular sugar. Stick with corn sugar or better yet spray dried
malt extract.
6. Start with two food grade 6 gallon pails. One is your fermenter, the
other is a bottling bucket. Check the web sites below for starters kits of
equipment you will need.
7. Prime the beer while it is in the bottling bucket for an evenly
carbonated batch.
8. Enjoy your beer!!  Almost anything you make will be drinkable!!  Even the
poorer batches I've made over the year could be drunk when mixed 50 - 50
with fizzy yellow 'Mercan beer.
9. If you want a taste of what I personally think is the best Ale made
today, go get some Arrogant Bastard Ale.  Fizzy Yellow Beer is for Wussies!

Here's some resources for you that I find handy:

http://morebeer.com/

http://beerrecipes.org/

BUY THESE:
http://www.amazon.com/New-Complete-Joy-Home-Brewing/dp/0380763664
http://byo.com/

JOIN THIS:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/home_brew/

Let us know how you make out!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:57 PM, <shelden3 at pldi.net> wrote:

> As someone pointed out chlorinated or treated water does not make great
> beer or wine.
>
> If you are on a well then you are good to go, need those minerals to perk
> it up a bit, but if "city" water is all you have then maybe some spring
> water but make sure it isn't repackaged municiple water from somewhere
> else.
>
> Charlie


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 16:49:33 2008
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 15:49:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0806041549y576eff1ag761921937cce87db@mail.gmail.com>

I have been brewing since about 1979.
I've made many batches of truly great beer, and some real bad swill.

I really like the stouts / porters so I tend to go that way when I buy
ingredients.
I have also made some fantastic Meads.
One I made with 12 lbs honey and 5 lbs strawberries.
I managed to save back some bottles for aging, at 11 years I discovered
them.
We had friends over, I opened up the bottles.
This stuff was nectar - it was ambrosia - it was by far the best thing I've
ever made.
It wasn't that good at 1 year old, or even 5 years old. 11 years old and it
had finally matured.

Right now I have a batch in the carboy that I probably should dump, but it's
difficult.
It had a starting gravity of over 1.1 and the last time I checked (5 weeks
ago) it was at 10%.
Trouble is it's gotten a bacteria and tastes a bit sour.
This is a very heavy stout, other than the sour flavor it's all good...

If I had a still I'd just pop it right in there, but they make you get a
license for those around here, even for home use!

So, like I said, I should dump it and start again.

Meanwhile I live a couple blocks from the Snoqualmie Falls Brewery and they
fill up my 5 gallon keg as long as I pay them. They have some really good
craft beers too.


Rick Bastedo

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 17:10:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:10:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0806041549y576eff1ag761921937cce87db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0806041549y576eff1ag761921937cce87db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806041610o2211880ax722408eece5634c5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

>
> If I had a still I'd just pop it right in there, but they make you get a
> license for those around here, even for home use!

<snip>
You only need a license if they catch you, Rick    ;-)


> Meanwhile I live a couple blocks from the Snoqualmie Falls Brewery and they
> fill up my 5 gallon keg as long as I pay them. They have some really good
> craft beers too.


Sounds great to me.  You can crawl home from their tasting room!!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 16:55:24 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:55:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48471D5C.1080100@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Question on the Pertronix...   Why would one suddenly quit working about 20
> minutes into a drive?
>
>   
That's about how long they are good for.
Well I can't say that, of my 3, 1 lasted 11 months, the other 2 lasted 
20 minutes ;)
But whatever Daniel sent me 6 years ago works great.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Jun  4 18:17:23 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:17:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921892@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I have been known to brew a batch or two.  The internet is your friend--
more than you ever want to know about home brewing-- easy ways, hard
ways, bottled, kegged...whatever you want.  Don't have the links at my
office computer but Google is your friend.

I started brewing back when the only beer you could buy in most places
was what has been called "American Light Lager" (not to be confused with
"Lite" lager, a diet brew and major advertising industry success in this
country). (Also known as "swill" and "beer for men who like to pee a
lot").

I still brew at least every Thanksgiving (and may make a summer batch,
if Peter C asks nicely ;-)  but there is less motivation now that most
parts of the country have retailers selling pretty damn good craftbrews.
Even if all you can get is Sam Adams Corporate Fermented Beverage,
that's at least real beer. Here in Michigan, we are blessed with some of
the finest micro-micro breweries in the country and home-brewing is only
worth the effort if you need a hobby. The classic starter book is the
one by Charley Papazian (Google again).

If you email me at home (johnsfolly AT gmail DOT com), I'll try to steer
you to a couple of suppliers and sites that are fun.  But wait'll you
see what the corn-to-fuel movement has done to the price of barley, and
hops have gone up about 500% in the last 6 months.

-JohnD


-----Original Message-----
From: Heard [mailto:heard at datatrontech.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 3:26 PM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer

All this talk about Nutria got me thinking about beer.  Does anyone on
this
list brew their own beer?  If so, would you be willing to share do's and
dont's off list with me.  I've been thinking about brewing my own, what
with
all the Bud Light BS around here.  I want some real beer, but around
here,
all you can get in the restaurants is Bud, Bud Light, blah, blah, blah.
Jesus, what a monopoly they have.

Heard Saxon

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 18:27:53 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 20:27:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
	<4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
	<43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<43840a7e0806030926m7338ff30kf2607f00cf7aed38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c8c6a2$ff270cd0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

No, When you originally said "Fortunately the more recent itterations of
Fedora support SMP."
then you must mean Symmetric Multiprocessing, because that is what they
support.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jim Johnson

  On 6/3/08, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

    I think you mean Symmetric  Multiprocessing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing

  Nope:   See:
  http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5978831/claims.html

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun  4 18:32:36 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 19:32:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer
References: <011701c8c678$e1f082b0$1801010a@xp>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921892@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <018d01c8c6a3$a798d880$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>
To: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer


I have been known to brew a batch or two.  The internet is your friend--
more than you ever want to know about home brewing-- easy ways, hard
ways, bottled, kegged...whatever you want.  Don't have the links at my
office computer but Google is your friend.

=================

Geezus, John, what are you still doing at work at this hour?

Go home, man!

LAD 

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 18:44:39 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:44:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806041744v43f775e7n30340294a608724c@mail.gmail.com>

Louisiana Nutria have TWO legs???????

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:04 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 18:46:34 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:46:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806041746n49ad2aa7gbfef8dab9848072c@mail.gmail.com>

What does "Beaver" taste like in your neck-of-the-woods?  (couldn't resist)
Herb

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
> these folk have seen a beaver..
>
> .. wait for it....  ;-)

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun  4 19:34:25 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:34:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
Message-ID: <4846E031.23291.16E30FE@dmg.bossig.com>

The bit I'm looking for is shown on page 77 of the Brit. Vic. catalogue. 
In that illustration it is just above the number 53 and to the left of the 
number 36.
They do not show a part number...
The DPO riveted the assembly shown as item 35 to the blower!!!

In the Moss catalogue, it can be seen on page 16 at the end of the air duct 
labelled #5.
Again, no part number..

Can anybody help??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jun  4 19:38:59 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 18:38:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
Message-ID: <648019159.20080604183859@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  
        I've been using a click-adjust for a number of years, not
being all that good as determining a "sliding fit"... i have a cam by
OREGON CAM REGRINDERS that is recommended to have the valve lash set
at .018" HOT.... ..

i have always assumed that the threads on the adjusters were 1/4" 28
TPI. ...  that worked out mathematically (28 tpi X 30 clicks per
revolution, X .018) to 15 clicks..... been doing that for years.....

now i find out (thanks Hal) that they are 26 TPI!

i went back and read the instructions.. it says use 8 clicks to get
.012... hmmmm... something is off here.....me or the instructions....

so i went back and read a critique of the click-adjust. on thing is
that i've been using the math on the adjuster side, BUT there is that
1.2 or 1.3 to one ratio NOT taken into account.....hmmmm!  ?

if the instructions ARE correct, i should be using 12 clicks to get
.018 (8/12 = 12/18)....i've been running .022  HOT for a long time.....?

i have noticed that the engine doesn't like to go over 4500 rpm under
load... .... . would this be the effect?.. ..of too loose a valve
lash?

do i have to go back this weekend and set with feeler gauges before i
set out for LoTO, or should i leave it alone having been succesfully
running like this for years and reset it when i get home again?...

before i set them last weekend, i averaged 38.8+ mpg on a 500 mile
trip to Vancouver BC at 60 mph...
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "There's no need for silence," Tom allowed.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 21:01:29 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:01:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806041746n49ad2aa7gbfef8dab9848072c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<150BA9E0-C994-4EE8-8548-BA8814734FD9@comcast.net>
	<2ad6c6b10806041746n49ad2aa7gbfef8dab9848072c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AC4F39C8-2B06-4B0A-AF3C-5448DE0074C8@comcast.net>

heh..  a lot like .. a lot like.. (I can't say it..)


A LOT LIKE FISH!!!!!

ARRRGGHHHH!!!!

Lester

.. or chicken..  or Nutria..


On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:46 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> What does "Beaver" taste like in your neck-of-the-woods?  (couldn't  
> resist)
> Herb
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> Fred.. these city folk have never seen a chicken!  Tell them it's
> like a beaver without the flat tail.  I'm *certain* that many of
> these folk have seen a beaver..
>
> .. wait for it....  ;-)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 21:02:30 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:02:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806041744v43f775e7n30340294a608724c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d06.3283b7bc.35776089@aol.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806032357m127c0532tc9bc12c651cce3e4@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910806040604l38ab035bwa8723c3cb6379c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806041744v43f775e7n30340294a608724c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6962BC1-322C-49F0-8CCC-DB44042E75FD@comcast.net>

Nope.. it just looks like it when they stand on their back legs and  
look you in the eye..

Lester


On Jun 4, 2008, at 7:44 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Louisiana Nutria have TWO legs???????
>
> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:04 AM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We have them in Louisiana, and they get as large as chickens.

From Grossac at aol.com  Wed Jun  4 21:04:22 2008
From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 23:04:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] SPRITE SPEED 50! AT MID-OHIO - June 26-29
Message-ID: <c56.377d6e1c.3578b1b6@aol.com>

REMINDER!
 
The SVRA Mid-Ohio vintage races on June 26-29 will honor the 50th  
anniversary of the Sprite (and twin-under-the-skin Midgets).  All  Sprite/Midgets are 
invited including variants as well as modern SCCA cars.   SVRA has offered to 
reduce Sprite entry fees $100 from regular fees and  there will be Sprite 
only-qualification and feature races in addition to  participation in the regular 
SVRA groups.
 
Sprites will also be offered a no-cost familiarization session on  Thursday  
prior to start of regular on-track activities on Friday.   Peter Krause, 
personal racing coach, will provide a chalk talk for Sprite  drivers during 
lunchtime on Friday.
 
We will have a Sprite dinner on Friday night at which presentations for  
dubious achievements will be made.  Historical prevarications,  representations 
and fabrications will be will be among the highlights of the  evening. 
 
Competitors who also participate in the VARAC Mosport Vintage races  the 
preceding weekend will vote to chose the winner of the Am-Can Challenge,  based 
not on finishing position but on Spirit and Devotion to the marque. 
 
Please go to the SVRA website _www.SVRA.com_ (http://www.SVRA.com)  for more 
information and entry forms  or me for information at _grossac at aol.com_ 
(mailto:grossac at aol.com) .
 
For Spritely Motoring,
 
Chris Gross



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  4 22:49:40 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 22:49:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re:  Distributors
References: <cf7.32753ad3.357828d7@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604123751.038b5f38@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806041202w1d74b7abje43a90abd15666b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<010901c8c695$d22e8530$6601a8c0@shop>
	<43840a7e0806041504o3ea9b907j2335e6a50bc27e96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00cc01c8c6c7$91b10c30$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Is it marked elsewhere on the dizzy?>>

Yep.  On da flat spot; approx it is looking at the coil.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  4 23:03:17 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:03:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Got a picture??
In-Reply-To: <48471D5C.1080100@comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e0806040034y3fd8ffe5of7005ec2c12bf794@mail.gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080604081306.03a57eb8@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806040952sf881ae6t1592201dee264e04@mail.gmail.com>
	<48471D5C.1080100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806042203o1d3f2829id08c48ec770778e6@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, you warned me....
Who makes the points these days?  I bought a new set from either Moss or VB,
I don't remember which and they have been in the boot for over a year. I put
them in last night and took them right back out again. Damned things didn't
even align properly!!  Probably freaking Chinese crap!  I ended up putting
my old points back in. It runs now but I need to do a little fine tuning.
Crankcase is vented to atmosphere and the oil leak is minimal. A drop about
every 10 seconds. Tomorrow I'll install the flying saucer PCV and see how
that works. I got about 10 more things to tend to before I want to try to
drive it to LotO. If I don't drive it, I'll hook it behind the pickup and
tow it.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> Question on the Pertronix...   Why would one suddenly quit working about
>> 20
>> minutes into a drive?
>>
>>
>>
> That's about how long they are good for.
> Well I can't say that, of my 3, 1 lasted 11 months, the other 2 lasted 20
> minutes ;)
> But whatever Daniel sent me 6 years ago works great.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 03:41:04 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 05:41:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Out of gas & had to walk home
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806011919h2cc64189recfe558b3c25af23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430806011213u5779c821vc8897b695ab7db1@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806011919h2cc64189recfe558b3c25af23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806050241v271631a6u441cd9e5ff4a7039@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Herb,
I'm going to drain the tank and see what comes out, if it looks crappy I'll
buy a new tank and never have to worry about it. If it looks good I'll use
both filters. Did you just put one below the elect. fuel pump and above? I
guess what I'm saying is I wouldn't want it closer to the tank right, it
wouldn't matter and I shouldn't give myself more work by cutting the line
just for a filter. I remember when I left my Spitfire unused for several
years in my parents carport while away at college the fuel line was so bad I
blew it out with an air compressor and a long 4 to 5 inch segment of tar
came out. So I'll blow the line out also.
Thanks Lin

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:19 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Lin---If you suspect your tank has 'rust', or other junk, put a large
> filter before the pump...and...another just after the pump.  They're cheap
> enough.  That's what I did on my TR8...full of rust...and haven't had a
> problem since; seven-years now.---Herb

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Thu Jun  5 07:49:05 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:49:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Lake of the Ozarks Update -
 THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806031520y186ee9c7i324812202d8d52ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E355AB@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Hi Jim, I (silly me) did think registration was Thursday.  Sooo, I just
now phoned the host hotel and had Wednesday night added to my
reservation.  Ms.  Laura said they do have rooms for Wednesday night, at
least right now.  This is just FYI for other short sighted dummies like
me.  Sheeesh......
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:21 PM
To: Spridget List; Midget/Sprite; bugeye
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Lake of the Ozarks Update

This is just a quick note to the lists to correct what appears to be a
misconception....

The big fling runs from June 26th thru June 29th. The registration table
will be open on the 25th and the car show begins at 8:00 am on Thursday
morning, the 26th of June.  Some people apparently are thinking that
things
don't get rolling until Friday the 27th and we want to correct that
misconception. If you are coming, you should try to get there sometime
on
the 25th in order not to miss the car show and the driving skills event
on
Thursday!  If you have any questions please don't hesitate to call Jim
Johnson at 620-408-6877!

Please pass this on to anyone you know who might be coming that may not
be
on the email lists.....
--
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Jun  5 09:20:34 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 08:20:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
Message-ID: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>

Dave

If no one on the list has one you might try contacting British Auto Center
LTD. in West Seattle.  They run a British only wrecking yard as well as new
parts.

British Auto Center LTD.
2938 SW Avalon Way
(206) 935-0872
www.britishautocenter.com
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
The bit I'm looking for is shown on page 77 of the Brit. Vic. catalogue.
In that illustration it is just above the number 53 and to the left of the
number 36.
They do not show a part number...
The DPO riveted the assembly shown as item 35 to the blower!!!

In the Moss catalogue, it can be seen on page 16 at the end of the air duct
labeled #5.
Again, no part number..

Can anybody help??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From lincman90 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  5 09:22:26 2008
From: lincman90 at hotmail.com (Tom Daughdrill)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:22:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <060420082026.4131.4846FA850009C9B3000010232216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <060420082026.4131.4846FA850009C9B3000010232216566276C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU146-W3153F39F0372B1D72D5930ACB40@phx.gbl>

So long as Yuengling continues to brew Yuengling Amber, I have no need to
homebrew.  The downside is that I have to make a 300 mile round trip drive to
buy the stuff, as it is not sold here in Louisiana.

Tom

> > Makes you wonder why they have more than one tap---all that tasteless
stuff is the same. Bud, bud light, miller, miller light. Just recently our
locals have begun carrying Yeungling, both on tap and in containers. It is a
huge step above the Bud conundrum and I have been ordering it.>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 09:29:22 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
In-Reply-To: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>
References: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806050829m498c38e9lccece69068b4f885@mail.gmail.com>

Due to time constraints, and the absolute bastard mess under the hood of
Dave's car, I hope that I can get a photo of mine to send him.
I have many parts off of the BBQ'd 65 Sprite I bought out of Port Arthur.
Once Dave can see what his car "should" look like, we can then discuss what
he really needs.
Dave, I have not forgotten you, it has been a hectic time for me here in
Texas.
I'll email you tomorrow or Saturday, time permitting, and we'll sort out
what you are truly needing, if you would like.

Brad

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu>
wrote:

> Dave
>
> If no one on the list has one you might try contacting British Auto Center
> LTD. in West Seattle.  They run a British only wrecking yard as well as new
> parts.
>
> British Auto Center LTD.
> 2938 SW Avalon Way
> (206) 935-0872
> www.britishautocenter.com
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> The bit I'm looking for is shown on page 77 of the Brit. Vic. catalogue.
> In that illustration it is just above the number 53 and to the left of the
> number 36.
> They do not show a part number...
> The DPO riveted the assembly shown as item 35 to the blower!!!
>
> In the Moss catalogue, it can be seen on page 16 at the end of the air duct
> labeled #5.
> Again, no part number..
>
> Can anybody help??
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Jun  5 09:40:27 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:40:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
In-Reply-To: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>
References: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <4847A67B.25914.550580@dmg.bossig.com>

All Hail, Richard,

Thank you, Thank you.... I've been searching for a LBC wrecking yard here
on the east side of the state for many years now and without luck!!
Now, at least, I have at least one... even if it is 250 miles away....
Always a good think to have...

Dave g.

On 5 Jun 2008 at 8:20, Richard Ball wrote:

>> f no one on the list has one you might try contacting British Auto
>> Center LTD. in West Seattle.  They run a British only wrecking yard as
>> well as new parts.   British Auto Center LTD. 2938 SW Avalon Way (206)
>> 935-0872 www.britishautocenter.com


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Jun  5 09:57:48 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:57:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806050829m498c38e9lccece69068b4f885@mail.gmail.com>
References: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>,
	<e98d88090806050829m498c38e9lccece69068b4f885@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4847AA8C.22273.64EA3A@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Brad,

No problem, and Thanks....

There's enough things for me to do on the beast that keep me busy....
For example... the bucket (I don't know the correct name) for the front turn lamp was loosely 
fitted to the fender and the securing nut was rusted.!! 
So yesterday I spent a few hours, on and off, with PB Blaster, and a small amount of locallised 
heat, and I finally was able to free up and tighten the offending nut from inside the wheel well...
Only a small victory, but each one counts ;-))

I look forward to getting your photo's  

Enjoy the day...

Dave G.

On 5 Jun 2008 at 10:29, Brad Fornal wrote:
>> Due to time constraints, and the absolute bastard mess under the hood
>> of Dave's car, I hope that I can get a photo of mine to send him. I
>> have many parts off of the BBQ'd 65 Sprite I bought out of Port
>> Arthur. Once Dave can see what his car "should" look like, we can then
>> discuss what he really needs. Dave, I have not forgotten you, it has
>> been a hectic time for me here in Texas. I'll email you tomorrow or
>> Saturday, time permitting, and we'll sort out what you are truly
>> needing, if you would like.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Jun  5 10:02:28 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:02:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
References: <25B7E476DD37485BB77BAFADFF1EE597@psych.washington.edu>
	<4847A67B.25914.550580@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <400491B8F64C43A99DE6A0ACABF5B5EA@psych.washington.edu>

Dave

There is one place a little closer to you that has carried some LBC stuff in 
the past.

Gerry's Foreign Auto Parts
300 S. Main St.
P.O. Box 765
Kittitas, WA 98934
(509) 968-4466  (800) 848-5578
http://www.gerrysap.com/

I found them by using  a national wrecking yard search engine.  I have found 
that some of the inventories are out of date when you actually call the 
yards.

http://www.car-part.com/

Rich
Everett, WA
'76 Midget

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <richb at u.washington.edu>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: re: looking for a heater air flap assy....


All Hail, Richard,

Thank you, Thank you.... I've been searching for a LBC wrecking yard here
on the east side of the state for many years now and without luck!!
Now, at least, I have at least one... even if it is 250 miles away....
Always a good think to have...

Dave g.

On 5 Jun 2008 at 8:20, Richard Ball wrote:

>> f no one on the list has one you might try contacting British Auto
>> Center LTD. in West Seattle. They run a British only wrecking yard as
>> well as new parts. British Auto Center LTD. 2938 SW Avalon Way (206)
>> 935-0872 www.britishautocenter.com


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 10:42:05 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:42:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Wedge] Eye protection
In-Reply-To: <8AEB0A52-7E6A-4C67-B132-100E9905D969@mac.com>
References: <8AEB0A52-7E6A-4C67-B132-100E9905D969@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806050942q2914a9c8o92da10436b692624@mail.gmail.com>

This message came about from a discussion regarding getting 'something' in
your eye....
Herb



"Having gone totally blind and then to go through 16 surgeries to restore
some semblance of vision, my motto is "Protect your eyes at all cost!!"

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  5 10:44:02 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:44:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Where are all the L.B.C.s??
In-Reply-To: <4845FA5A.703@comcast.net>
References: <060420080047.18820.4845E61E000861F50000498422165258069B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<ECA2B57A-E442-4F77-A5AD-183A95E84308@phillymgclub.com> 
	<4845FA5A.703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W5699C97CF20BD6E632DF34C2B40@phx.gbl>

Great one I saw the other day too, weather was perfect top down.
new Saturn Skye, top up , woman on her cell phone, and little white dog on her
lap...
I tried to get her attention, but to no avail.

Wish I had been drivin a beater instead of top down in the Mustang,
would have cut her off...

Seena few LBC's, not too many in Nassau county
 but haven't been to any cruise ins yet this year

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto



 The other day it was 75* and perfect, I
> was out in one or 2 of the Sprites and I saw 3 miatas all with the tops
> up and windows up meaning those wussys had their AC on.
> Girly men I tell ya!
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Thu Jun  5 10:51:38 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....
In-Reply-To: <4847A67B.25914.550580@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E356B5@glitas07.garverinc.local>

You may want to phone McLeod's British Cars in the central Arkansas
area.  He has scads of used parts.  Phone 501.851.2640.  Just FYI.
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 10:40 AM
To: spridget List; richb at u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] looking for a heater air flap assy....

All Hail, Richard,

Thank you, Thank you.... I've been searching for a LBC wrecking yard
here
on the east side of the state for many years now and without luck!!
Now, at least, I have at least one... even if it is 250 miles away....
Always a good think to have...

Dave g.

On 5 Jun 2008 at 8:20, Richard Ball wrote:

>> f no one on the list has one you might try contacting British Auto
>> Center LTD. in West Seattle.  They run a British only wrecking yard
as
>> well as new parts.   British Auto Center LTD. 2938 SW Avalon Way
(206)
>> 935-0872 www.britishautocenter.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  5 10:53:51 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:53:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] [Wedge] Eye protection
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806050942q2914a9c8o92da10436b692624@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37D97AE211991ECE2CAB17B8B40@phx.gbl>

And, I always thought they said that hindsight was 20/20.  :(

----Original Message Follows----
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>

This message came about from a discussion regarding getting 'something' in
your eye....
Herb

"Having gone totally blind and then to go through 16 surgeries to restore
some semblance of vision, my motto is "Protect your eyes at all cost!!"

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 11:07:30 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:07:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
Message-ID: <060520081707.15012.48481D52000E126600003AA42216554886C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Yep--it wasn't sold here locally until recently.  Before that I had to go to PA or to Florida to get it.  8^)

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Tom Daughdrill <lincman90 at hotmail.com>
> So long as Yuengling continues to brew Yuengling Amber, I have no need to
> homebrew.  The downside is that I have to make a 300 mile round trip drive to
> buy the stuff, as it is not sold here in Louisiana.
> 
> Tom
> 
> > > Makes you wonder why they have more than one tap---all that tasteless
> stuff is the same. Bud, bud light, miller, miller light. Just recently our
> locals have begun carrying Yeungling, both on tap and in containers. It is a
> huge step above the Bud conundrum and I have been ordering it.>
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Jun  5 11:14:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:14:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
References: <060520081707.15012.48481D52000E126600003AA42216554886C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5FA4FF5B02294B50923F75A3C71F09A1@NilesAD.von.gov>

Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next? Guns? 
Cats? Frank Zappa? 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  5 11:19:46 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:19:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <5FA4FF5B02294B50923F75A3C71F09A1@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36F55DF8908B32C33FD252B8B40@phx.gbl>

Sure, why not?

Some clown mayor or councillor in Toronto is suggesting that since his 
research shows that guns stolen from private citizens' collections are being 
used in crimes, that collections should not be allowed.  I wonder what his 
solution to car theft and rape are? ;)

And, I think that I heard that the Mothers are coming to Ottawa with Dweezel 
heading them up.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>

Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next? Guns?
Cats? Frank Zappa?

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun  5 11:33:02 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:33:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
Message-ID: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>

My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a '92 Honda Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  Her mechanic recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which seems reasonable to me.  She is reluctant to spend the money for one year of use.  Any thoughts on the likelihood that the joints will survive a year of casual driving with leaky boots?  Would duck tape help?  Would periodic squirts of grease through the holes help?

Michael Rowe

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 11:44:46 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:44:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer
Message-ID: <060520081744.20394.4848260E000CECF000004FAA2216549976C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Sure--Let's always throw out the baby with the bath water, so to speak.  That is why, if you want to make yourself a gin 'n tonic, you have to use good old American watered-down tonic water.  You can't purchase the really good INDIAN tonic water here because our "free" Govt has declared that it contains too much quinine--supposedly bad for pregnant gals.  Well hell, I ain't gonna get pregnant and neither is my wife, so it galls me that we can't get it.  

That's the same principle that the money-dredging lawyer representing the mother who is suing American Airlines for serving peanuts on a flight is using.  If the mother takes her kid, who is allergic to peanuts, on a flight, then NO ONE is supposed to be served peanuts.  Hell, I have never been on a flight that I can recollect that didn't serve peanuts.  So I guess I am saying, if I'm afraid that I'm gonna die if I am eaten by a shark, I am sure as H --- gonna stay out of the water.  Not sue the government to kill all the sharks or to keep everyone out of the water.  

Bah--Humbug!   8^)

--David C. -- 1st Class Curmudgeon

'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> Sure, why not?
> 
> Some clown mayor or councillor in Toronto is suggesting that since his 
> research shows that guns stolen from private citizens' collections are being 
> used in crimes, that collections should not be allowed.  I wonder what his 
> solution to car theft and rape are? ;)
> 
> And, I think that I heard that the Mothers are coming to Ottawa with Dweezel 
> heading them up.
> 
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> 
> Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next? Guns?
> Cats? Frank Zappa?
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Jun  5 11:49:16 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:49:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <060520081744.20394.4848260E000CECF000004FAA2216549976C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <060520081744.20394.4848260E000CECF000004FAA2216549976C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01f801c8c734$79b0b5f0$1801010a@xp>

Now that is funny, I don't care who you are! (To quote Larry)

Heard 

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From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:45 PM
To: Robert Duquette; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer

Sure--Let's always throw out the baby with the bath water, so to speak.
That is why, if you want to make yourself a gin 'n tonic, you have to use
good old American watered-down tonic water.  You can't purchase the really
good INDIAN tonic water here because our "free" Govt has declared that it
contains too much quinine--supposedly bad for pregnant gals.  Well hell, I
ain't gonna get pregnant and neither is my wife, so it galls me that we
can't get it.  

That's the same principle that the money-dredging lawyer representing the
mother who is suing American Airlines for serving peanuts on a flight is
using.  If the mother takes her kid, who is allergic to peanuts, on a
flight, then NO ONE is supposed to be served peanuts.  Hell, I have never
been on a flight that I can recollect that didn't serve peanuts.  So I guess
I am saying, if I'm afraid that I'm gonna die if I am eaten by a shark, I am
sure as H --- gonna stay out of the water.  Not sue the government to kill
all the sharks or to keep everyone out of the water.  

Bah--Humbug!   8^)

--David C. -- 1st Class Curmudgeon

'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> Sure, why not?
> 
> Some clown mayor or councillor in Toronto is suggesting that since his 
> research shows that guns stolen from private citizens' collections are 
> being used in crimes, that collections should not be allowed.  I 
> wonder what his solution to car theft and rape are? ;)
> 
> And, I think that I heard that the Mothers are coming to Ottawa with 
> Dweezel heading them up.
> 
> 
> 
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> 
> Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next?
Guns?
> Cats? Frank Zappa?
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Thu Jun  5 12:48:32 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:48:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
References: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
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You might try the zip up type boots that can be fitted from the outside
without any disassembly. I think they are about $20 each (or used to be)

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Michael Rowe
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:33
To: Spridget Chat Group
Cc: Allison Rowe
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint

My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a '92 Honda
Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  Her mechanic
recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which seems reasonable to me.
She is reluctant to spend the money for one year of use.  Any thoughts on
the likelihood that the joints will survive a year of casual driving with
leaky boots?  Would duck tape help?  Would periodic squirts of grease
through the holes help?

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 12:54:39 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAOt0cYMCYGhKkn9dW1EJ4s8BAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
References: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAOt0cYMCYGhKkn9dW1EJ4s8BAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806051154y561b0302l1763ff45bf52ebc4@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, or something like the old speed boots from an old beetle.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Duncan Sinclair <duncan at pondhop.com> wrote:

> You might try the zip up type boots that can be fitted from the outside
> without any disassembly. I think they are about $20 each (or used to be)
>
> Thanks
> Duncan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan <spridgets-bounces%2Bduncan>=pondhop.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Michael Rowe
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:33
> To: Spridget Chat Group
> Cc: Allison Rowe
> Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
>
> My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a '92 Honda
> Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  Her mechanic
> recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which seems reasonable to me.
> She is reluctant to spend the money for one year of use.  Any thoughts on
> the likelihood that the joints will survive a year of casual driving with
> leaky boots?  Would duck tape help?  Would periodic squirts of grease
> through the holes help?
>
> Michael Rowe
> You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  5 13:16:38 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:16:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Single V belt fan pulley - regular size
Message-ID: <d09.37751172.35799596@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
At the Sprite Jubillee I saw several cars that were running a single V belt  
on a pulley clearly designed for two.  I guess an air/smog pump had been  
removed.
 
My question then is why haven't these owners, one car which was  particularly 
clean and tidy under the bonnett, fitted a single groove V belt  pulley?  Are 
they are hard to get in the USA?  I have a couple if not  3 regular size ones 
I don't plan to use as I prefer the large size pulley.   Are they worth my 
putting them on e-bay USA?
 
Thanks
 
W E S L A K E 1330

From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu Jun  5 13:29:19 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:29:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Nutria
Message-ID: <c5f.333001cc.3579988f@aol.com>

No, but it looks like fun.  
 
When I was a kid my folks had a cabin on a lake in central Texas.  At  ages 
10-13 or so, my best bud and I would go for the weekend and get us early to  go 
"Hunting" with our Benjamin .177 pellet guns.  We brought home rabbits,  
frogs, turtles, and such.  
 
One winter morning when the lake was about half covered with ice, we sat on  
a boat dock and took turns shooting at Nutria that were walking across the  
lake.  At 25 yards or so, the nutria would stop when the pellet hit, turn  and 
snarl at us, and keep walking.  Apparently the wet fur was frozen and  the 
pellets were just bouncing off.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 6/4/2008 3:20:52 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
healeyrick at yahoo.com writes:

Ever try this:  http://tinyurl.com/6am55k






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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 13:34:02 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:34:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806051154y561b0302l1763ff45bf52ebc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
	<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAOt0cYMCYGhKkn9dW1EJ4s8BAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
	<e98d88090806051154y561b0302l1763ff45bf52ebc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7AADBABC-D13D-426D-A34C-A4C0360952A2@comcast.net>

If you can wash all of the grease off the boots then duct tape will  
work fine.  If not, then use LOTS of duct tape..  ;-)

Does she live where she will be driving through rain, snow, or  
serious dust for long periods of time.  If not, and she is willing to  
suddenly lose transportation over $ 15.00 a month then don't mess  
with it.

Allison.  Be responsible!  Spend a little to save yourself some  
serious headache.  Think of the worst time the car could cease to  
run:  On the way home for Thanksgiving, through a freak snowstorm, on  
the back road that you thought would save you 15 minutes and just  
happens to have no cell coverage..  would it have been worth $ 15 a  
month??

Lester

Who has driving teenagers

On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Yeah, or something like the old speed boots from an old beetle.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Duncan Sinclair  
> <duncan at pondhop.com> wrote:
>
>> You might try the zip up type boots that can be fitted from the  
>> outside
>> without any disassembly. I think they are about $20 each (or used  
>> to be)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Duncan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan <spridgets-bounces% 
>> 2Bduncan>=pondhop.com@
>> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Rowe
>> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:33
>> To: Spridget Chat Group
>> Cc: Allison Rowe
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
>>
>> My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a  
>> '92 Honda
>> Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  Her  
>> mechanic
>> recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which seems  
>> reasonable to me.
>> She is reluctant to spend the money for one year of use.  Any  
>> thoughts on
>> the likelihood that the joints will survive a year of casual  
>> driving with
>> leaky boots?  Would duck tape help?  Would periodic squirts of grease
>> through the holes help?
>>
>> Michael Rowe

From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu Jun  5 13:42:47 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:42:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PA Beer
Message-ID: <c37.309dc96c.35799bb7@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/4/2008 3:23:59 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Just  recently our locals have begun carrying Yeungling, both on tap and in  
containers.  It is a huge step above the Bud conundrum and I have been  
ordering it.

 
I understand a bar 40 miles down the road has Yeungling on tap now.  I  
usually bring back 10-12 cases when I visit the mother in law in PA, but I  haven't 
been in over a year and we are currently out of good beer.
 
Robert Houston




**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 13:49:33 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:49:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint*
Message-ID: <060520081949.9183.4848434D000BEA1F000023DF2216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Better than duct tape for this type of repair, this stuff is what you need:

http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/96825.aspx?feature=Product_18&kw=tape

It is a silicone product that is supposed to bind to itself and is only $6.50 (plus, of course, the horrible shipping.)

And once you start dealing with Duluth Trading Post, you will surely become addicted to their unique line of goods.  Good company, great quality!

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> If you can wash all of the grease off the boots then duct tape will  
> work fine.  If not, then use LOTS of duct tape..  ;-)
> 
> Does she live where she will be driving through rain, snow, or  
> serious dust for long periods of time.  If not, and she is willing to  
> suddenly lose transportation over $ 15.00 a month then don't mess  
> with it.
> 
> Allison.  Be responsible!  Spend a little to save yourself some  
> serious headache.  Think of the worst time the car could cease to  
> run:  On the way home for Thanksgiving, through a freak snowstorm, on  
> the back road that you thought would save you 15 minutes and just  
> happens to have no cell coverage..  would it have been worth $ 15 a  
> month??
> 
> Lester
> 
> Who has driving teenagers
> 
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, or something like the old speed boots from an old beetle.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Duncan Sinclair  
> > <duncan at pondhop.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You might try the zip up type boots that can be fitted from the  
> >> outside
> >> without any disassembly. I think they are about $20 each (or used  
> >> to be)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Duncan
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
> >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan <spridgets-bounces% 
> >> 2Bduncan>=pondhop.com@
> >> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> >> Michael Rowe
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:33
> >> To: Spridget Chat Group
> >> Cc: Allison Rowe
> >> Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
> >>
> >> My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a  
> >> '92 Honda
> >> Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  Her  
> >> mechanic
> >> recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which seems  
> >> reasonable to me.
> >> She is reluctant to spend the money for one year of use.  Any  
> >> thoughts on
> >> the likelihood that the joints will survive a year of casual  
> >> driving with
> >> leaky boots?  Would duck tape help?  Would periodic squirts of grease
> >> through the holes help?
> >>
> >> Michael Rowe
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Jun  5 13:52:20 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:52:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
References: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home><!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAOt0cYMCYGhKkn9dW1EJ4s8BAAAAAA==@pondhop.com><e98d88090806051154y561b0302l1763ff45bf52ebc4@mail.gmail.com>
	<7AADBABC-D13D-426D-A34C-A4C0360952A2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CFB22712BBD54F619F8FB44E7AC53414@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

CV joints take a long time to fail and they are loud in the process.  Clean 
the outside of the torn boots, shoot in some grease and close the holes with 
goobers of silicone adhesive or duct tape.  Until the clunking gets 
irritatingly loud, they are good enough to drive on.

Glen 

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Jun  5 14:00:47 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] $$ for Hardtop for a '64-65 ??
Message-ID: <4847E37F.4878.1435E2A@dmg.bossig.com>

I might have a shot at a hardtop from a '64 Sprite...
What would be a fair price??
Condition is stated as "worn but useable"
Would it fir my '65??
It's a two hour dive from my house to go and see...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From jeepman_94 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  5 16:06:30 2008
From: jeepman_94 at yahoo.com (Ben Fenwick)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
Message-ID: <33030821.39591212703590163.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune12.reunion.com>

Hi,

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun  5 17:01:00 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:01:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel filters
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806051550l5739aa51p59b92aa9fe054ca3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430806011213u5779c821vc8897b695ab7db1@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806011919h2cc64189recfe558b3c25af23@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430806050241v271631a6u441cd9e5ff4a7039@mail.gmail.com>
	<001301c8c703$36b4d870$9f03f204@spider>
	<205cef430806051550l5739aa51p59b92aa9fe054ca3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c8c760$072d3450$9f03f204@spider>

The paper element filter is Napa 3011

The glass filter is 730-9560 for < fuel lines. They also make 3/16, 5/16
and 3/8 fuel line.

Be sure what size fuel hose you will be using.

The glass ones are just better at catching the big stuff and can be
cleaned/reused.  bill in oregon

  _____

From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:51 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: fuel filters



Did Napa sell the glass ones too? I use the plastic with paper filter it is
see through too. But I hear the glass ones are the best.
Linda

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 7:56 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

On my rigs, they're all old, I put a see-thru glass filter before the fuel
pump. This is a glass one that can be taken apart for cleaning; it catches
all the big stuff. Then I have a plastic see-thru that is before the carb in
the engine compartment. It has a paper element and I just replace it about
once a year. I get mine at NAPA. ...bill in Oregon

========================================================================

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 17:03:12 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:03:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806030926m7338ff30kf2607f00cf7aed38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1K2o2b-0004SQ-BA@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<5f00d9910806011847x75f879a7q5bfa8550e7a29eae@mail.gmail.com>
	<27C38A6AD2B74215BD80BC20A16F2534@Home>
	<5f00d9910806012051g3f02c7f1q90c3b2955fdf1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<53095665.20080601212747@pacifier.com>
	<DD03BF00-4F55-4FC3-903D-BC9ED405EA93@phillymgclub.com>
	<4844A26A.8040104@GotSlack.org>
	<43840a7e0806022154v63e1686ehc5746d435bd845c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<005001c8c53c$51dc97a0$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<43840a7e0806030926m7338ff30kf2607f00cf7aed38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806051603i2fdb5646o9dfffaa504bcf97c@mail.gmail.com>

Jim Cool website.
Lin

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 6/3/08, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think you mean Symmetric  Multiprocessing
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_multiprocessing
>
>
> Nope:   See:
> http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5978831/claims.html
>
> > I'm also old
> > > enough to have used Slackware back in the olden days!!  I ran it on an
> > old
> > > IBM with an 8088 cpu and 640K RAM on the mother board!  How times
> change!
>
>
> The GNU project began back in the mid 80s I think. You are correct that
> Volkerding released Slackware 1.0 in 1993 but its for-runners SLS and MINIX
> were already in use on the 16 bit architecture (pre-x86) of the time. I
> started with MINIX - many parts o which eventually became components of
> Slackware 1.0.
>
> FWIW, my first desktop was an early 8008 homebrew back in the late 70s. I
> still remember the excitement when I got my 8" floppy disk drive!!  Finally
> I could store code on something other than paper tape!
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Jun  5 17:27:29 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:27:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] $$ for Hardtop for a '64-65 ??
In-Reply-To: <4847E37F.4878.1435E2A@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4847E37F.4878.1435E2A@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <54783256.20080605162729@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,
                                                     ,
     '64 was a transition year.. if it will fit your 65, it will fit
     my '66, so GO have a look... if it fits, buy it, restore it and
     sell it to me for $150,.. ok?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 Crusoe got everything done by Friday. Can you? 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun  5 17:47:43 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:47:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
In-Reply-To: <001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
	<001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <205cef430806051647me46ee44kbf2933a3f711ea45@mail.gmail.com>

Yes this is the site I liked so much I printed it. Thanks for helping us
make it a favorite link again.
Linda

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Here'a the link that sold me on the idea...
> http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" <
> grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
>
>
>  I've seen some cars done like that with a combination of foam brush and
>> foam
>> roller,
>>
>> http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Poor-Mans-Paint-Job-or...-How-to-paint-your-c/
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Lin
>>
>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I have lost track of who it is who painted his car with Rustoleum and a
>>> foam roller.  Please contact me off-list.
>>>
>>> Michael Rowe
>>> '74 Midget
>>> Long Island, NY

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Jun  5 18:36:47 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:36:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
Message-ID: <C46DD4AF.1697F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The CV joints last about 90,000 miles. The new boots last about 6 months, if
you're lucky.
I think it's cheaper to just replace the joints a little sooner rather than
replacing the boots twice a year.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun  5 18:47:27 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:47:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <C46DD4AF.1697F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <D7699E74CCAC411085E9359A2CF9AB44@Home>
	<C46DD4AF.1697F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <010d01c8c76e$e5b985d0$9f03f204@spider>

Also think about resale/selling when you dump it. ...bill
============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:37 PM
To: Michael Rowe; Spridget Chat Group
Cc: Allison Rowe
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint

The CV joints last about 90,000 miles. The new boots last about 6 months, if
you're lucky.
I think it's cheaper to just replace the joints a little sooner rather than
replacing the boots twice a year.
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  5 19:25:47 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 18:25:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <7AADBABC-D13D-426D-A34C-A4C0360952A2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <703933.38986.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I gotta go with Lester. These days it's the price of
only 3 tanks of gas over the course of a year.

--- Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> If you can wash all of the grease off the boots then
> duct tape will  
> work fine.  If not, then use LOTS of duct tape.. 
> ;-)
> 
> Does she live where she will be driving through
> rain, snow, or  
> serious dust for long periods of time.  If not, and
> she is willing to  
> suddenly lose transportation over $ 15.00 a month
> then don't mess  
> with it.
> 
> Allison.  Be responsible!  Spend a little to save
> yourself some  
> serious headache.  Think of the worst time the car
> could cease to  
> run:  On the way home for Thanksgiving, through a
> freak snowstorm, on  
> the back road that you thought would save you 15
> minutes and just  
> happens to have no cell coverage..  would it have
> been worth $ 15 a  
> month??
> 
> Lester

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 21:02:35 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:02:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <5FA4FF5B02294B50923F75A3C71F09A1@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <060520081707.15012.48481D52000E126600003AA42216554886C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<5FA4FF5B02294B50923F75A3C71F09A1@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <4848A8CB.8080108@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
> Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next? Guns? 
> Cats? Frank Zappa? 
> _______________________________________________
>
>   
Didja know that Frank Zappa's beer buzzed cat shot a hole in Frank's 
silicone brake fluid master cylinder with a stolen gun?
It's true! I read it right here on the internet Al Gore invented.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 21:09:02 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:09:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Single V belt fan pulley - regular size
In-Reply-To: <d09.37751172.35799596@aol.com>
References: <d09.37751172.35799596@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4848AA4E.8090507@comcast.net>

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi List,
>  
> At the Sprite Jubillee I saw several cars that were running a single V belt  
> on a pulley clearly designed for two.  I guess an air/smog pump had been  
> removed.
>  
> My question then is why haven't these owners, one car which was  particularly 
> clean and tidy under the bonnett, fitted a single groove V belt  pulley?  
>   
Daniel
The pulley is easy to come by, it's the spacer so the pulley clears the 
snoot on the timing cover that is hard to find.
But I did find one at Carlisle so I can remove the dual pulley on my 67.
And did you know you can run an air conditioner compressor off the dual 
water pump pulley?
ps, the t/stat cover arrived. Thanks


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmeadow at juno.com  Thu Jun  5 21:43:32 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:43:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
Message-ID: <20080605.224333.3668.0.dmeadow@juno.com>

I think $180 just to replace the boots is too much to spend for what you
get.  If it were me, I'd buy the rebuilt axles and replace them
altogether myself and be done with it.  She may end up keeping that car
longer than she expects.  I've replaced CV halfshafts on a Nissan Maxima
and it was pretty easy.  Took a couple of hours.  Autozone shows the
halfshafts for a 1992 Honda Accord about $60 apiece.  If the existing
boots are already split, then you might have dirt in there that is going
to destroy the axles in 6 months and you'll end up spending the money to
replace them, anyway.  Check out a Haynes manual or some on-line forums
first to see how difficult the Hondas are before attempting.

If you want the mechanics to do it, then they are already 90% there
because they have to remove the axles to replace the boots.  So for
another $120 or so you can get new joints, too.

As someone else noted, you can buy the split boots and replace them for
much less ($15 apiece at Autozone).  The mechanics don't like to use them
because they don't seal as well, but you've got only a year to worry
about them.  If you don't want to put out the money or effort for new
axles now, then put on the split boots.  If the joints fail in 6 months
then you're out $30 instead of $180.

Dirt is the enemy, so the better seal the longer they will last. 
Squirting in grease won't do any good.

Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there would be
plenty of warning.

Good luck!
David




On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:33:02 -0400 Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
writes:
> My daughter needs to eek one more year out of her school car, a '92 
> Honda Accord that can't pass emissions requirements in many states.  
> Her mechanic recommends replacing torn CV boots for $180, which 
> seems reasonable to me.  She is reluctant to spend the money for one 
> year of use.  Any thoughts on the likelihood that the joints will 
> survive a year of casual driving with leaky boots?  Would duck tape 
> help?  Would periodic squirts of grease through the holes help?
> 
> Michael Rowe
 
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Thu Jun  5 22:03:07 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:03:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
Currently in the chiller:

Lienies Berry Weis
Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
Peache Lambic
Frambois Lambic
Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
Leinies Creamy Dark
Full Sail Amber
Full Sail Pale Ale
Sam Adams Creame Stout
Newcastle Brown
Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
Bridgeport ESB
Tilburg Dutch Brown
Prankster Golden Ale
Chimay (blue label)
St Bernardus Tripel
St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY tastes
like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it would be the
emergency)

Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just have
one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over we try
them and they leave them for next time.

Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??

Charlie
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  5 22:34:24 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:34:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I wish Chimay was'nt so dang exspensive.
I have visions of those monks hanging out in night clubs in Dubai..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlie" <shelden3 at pldi.net>
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>; "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler


>I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
> Currently in the chiller:
>
> Lienies Berry Weis
> Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
> Peache Lambic
> Frambois Lambic
> Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
> Leinies Creamy Dark
> Full Sail Amber
> Full Sail Pale Ale
> Sam Adams Creame Stout
> Newcastle Brown
> Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
> Bridgeport ESB
> Tilburg Dutch Brown
> Prankster Golden Ale
> Chimay (blue label)
> St Bernardus Tripel
> St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
> and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY 
> tastes
> like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it would be 
> the
> emergency)
>
> Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just 
> have
> one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over we 
> try
> them and they leave them for next time.
>
> Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??
>
> Charlie
> OKC,OK
>
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From conan at intrex.net  Thu Jun  5 22:47:22 2008
From: conan at intrex.net (conan)
Date: Fri,  6 Jun 2008 00:47:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
Message-ID: <200806060047.AA1206648970@intrex.net>

per David Lieb:
> Such a long time since we had a beer discussion here... What is next? Guns? Cats? Frank Zappa? 

  My favorite beer is A&W, I shoot guns in competition, 2 cats deign to live in my house (-with- me) and I have listened to Frank Zappa in the past.
  What do I win???  :-)
Ed in NC

--
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 00:22:00 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:22:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <43840a7e0806052322x3c5dbac9l65f73bf2df945369@mail.gmail.com>

Okay Charlie, that's a good list....   Since you haven't yet registered for
Lake of the Ozarks in 3 weeks I won't tell you what we will have on tap for
the parties on the pool deck beside the lake....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/5/08, Charlie <shelden3 at pldi.net> wrote:
>
>  I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
> Currently in the chiller:
>
> Lienies Berry Weis
> Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
> Peache Lambic
> Frambois Lambic
> Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
> Leinies Creamy Dark
> Full Sail Amber
> Full Sail Pale Ale
> Sam Adams Creame Stout
> Newcastle Brown
> Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
> Bridgeport ESB
> Tilburg Dutch Brown
> Prankster Golden Ale
> Chimay (blue label)
> St Bernardus Tripel
> St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
> and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY
> tastes like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it
> would be the emergency)
>
> Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just
> have one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over
> we try them and they leave them for next time.
>
> Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??
>
> Charlie
> OKC,OK
>
>
>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  6 04:50:59 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:50:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
In-Reply-To: <200806060047.AA1206648970@intrex.net>
Message-ID: <811160.58391.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed,
  I'll see your "listened to Frank Zappa" and raise with "I met him in a bar in Nashville and had a beer with him one night way back when".  You got me on the cats - haven't had any in 20 years.  I also love to shoot guns, but they frown on that stuff on Long Island unless you have those little pieces of paper that say they know you have them...  (mine are in another, more understanding, state for the duration, darnit)
   - David

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Fri Jun  6 04:52:49 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 06:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
Message-ID: <48491701.3060306@verizon.net>

What... No Old Peculier? No Riggwelter?? What about
London Pride or Landlord?? Are any of those bottle
conditioned real ales???

chuck

Charlie wrote:
> I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
> Currently in the chiller:
>
> Lienies Berry Weis
> Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
> Peache Lambic
> Frambois Lambic
> Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
> Leinies Creamy Dark
> Full Sail Amber
> Full Sail Pale Ale
> Sam Adams Creame Stout
> Newcastle Brown
> Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
> Bridgeport ESB
> Tilburg Dutch Brown
> Prankster Golden Ale
> Chimay (blue label)
> St Bernardus Tripel
> St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
> and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY tastes
> like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it would be the
> emergency)
>
> Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just have
> one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over we try
> them and they leave them for next time.
>
> Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??
>
> Charlie
> OKC,OK
>
>
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 06:37:53 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:37:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <20080605.224333.3668.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
References: <20080605.224333.3668.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
Message-ID: <EE94B925-DDB4-47DF-BDD1-FE55DA978095@comcast.net>

David,

I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:


On Jun 5, 2008, at 10:43 PM, dmeadow at juno.com wrote:
> snip

>
> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there  
> would be
> plenty of warning.
>

For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we  
will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person  
that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny  
noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.

Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)

Lester

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 06:41:37 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:41:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
In-Reply-To: <811160.58391.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <811160.58391.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2106A1DA-F505-4CC3-9B53-293750FC717E@comcast.net>

David,
	I'll see your "met him in a bar" and raise with "I dissected cats in  
college" and "I still own my Grandfather's Browning 20ga that has a  
wooden, hand carved, plug to limit the capacity to 3 rounds"

Lester

On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:50 AM, David Booker wrote:

> Ed,
>  I'll see your "listened to Frank Zappa" and raise with "I met him  
> in a bar in Nashville and had a beer with him one night way back  
> when".  You got me on the cats - haven't had any in 20 years.  I  
> also love to shoot guns, but they frown on that stuff on Long Island  
> unless you have those little pieces of paper that say they know you  
> have them...  (mine are in another, more understanding, state for  
> the duration, darnit)
>   - David
> ____________

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  6 06:45:33 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 05:45:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
In-Reply-To: <2106A1DA-F505-4CC3-9B53-293750FC717E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <163051.52923.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK - I fold.  Next hand, please...
   
   - David

Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
  David,
I'll see your "met him in a bar" and raise with "I dissected cats in 
college" and "I still own my Grandfather's Browning 20ga that has a 
wooden, hand carved, plug to limit the capacity to 3 rounds"

Lester

On Jun 6, 2008, at 5:50 AM, David Booker wrote:

> Ed,
> I'll see your "listened to Frank Zappa" and raise with "I met him 
> in a bar in Nashville and had a beer with him one night way back 
> when". You got me on the cats - haven't had any in 20 years. I 
> also love to shoot guns, but they frown on that stuff on Long Island 
> unless you have those little pieces of paper that say they know you 
> have them... (mine are in another, more understanding, state for 
> the duration, darnit)
> - David
> ____________
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun  6 07:46:49 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
References: <20080605.224333.3668.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
	<EE94B925-DDB4-47DF-BDD1-FE55DA978095@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <357A72354DA043BDBF579E1633921FCE@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:

>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there
>> would be plenty of warning.

> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we
> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person
> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny
> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.

Having a daughter whose description of a car that stalled at stop signs was, 
"I pushed down on the pedal and it didn't go 'VROOM'", I guess Lester has a 
good point here. Also, my ex-wife was stranded once by a CV joint, although 
that was a situation where the bolts holding it to the transaxle came out 
and the CV joint flew off and hit the shifter mechanism, bending the rods in 
the transaxle. Fortunately, it was a 1979 Horizon with the VW Rabbit guts in 
it and was already on its last legs. I opened it up, saw the damage and 
figured I might as well just beat the rods straight again, put it back 
together, and when it died again I could just replace it without needing to 
open it up again. Kept driving that car until the front shock towers started 
to come up through the bonnet a few years later.
David 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun  6 09:25:30 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<48491701.3060306@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <00ad01c8c7e9$8e8afd40$01fea8c0@C600>

I have a quart of Old Numbskull, should any of the PNW convoy care to
partake.  My brother, who is a beer & wine snob, assures me it is good beer.
I limit my beer drinking to Dad's.

Kate


> What... No Old Peculier? No Riggwelter??

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri Jun  6 09:36:36 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:36:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<48491701.3060306@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <007101c8c7eb$1bc9a160$6401a8c0@personal>

Where the heck is the Smithwick?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chuck" <cciaffone at verizon.net>
To: "Charlie" <shelden3 at pldi.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler


> What... No Old Peculier? No Riggwelter?? What about
> London Pride or Landlord?? Are any of those bottle
> conditioned real ales???
>
> chuck
>
> Charlie wrote:
>> I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
>> Currently in the chiller:
>>
>> Lienies Berry Weis
>> Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
>> Peache Lambic
>> Frambois Lambic
>> Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
>> Leinies Creamy Dark
>> Full Sail Amber
>> Full Sail Pale Ale
>> Sam Adams Creame Stout
>> Newcastle Brown
>> Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
>> Bridgeport ESB
>> Tilburg Dutch Brown
>> Prankster Golden Ale
>> Chimay (blue label)
>> St Bernardus Tripel
>> St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
>> and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY 
>> tastes
>> like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it would be 
>> the
>> emergency)
>>
>> Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just 
>> have
>> one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over we 
>> try
>> them and they leave them for next time.
>>
>> Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??
>>
>> Charlie
>> OKC,OK
>>
>>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  6 09:57:31 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:57:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <007101c8c7eb$1bc9a160$6401a8c0@personal>
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Don't look at me!  I didn't take it! ;)

My preferred beer is Sleeman's India Pale Ale ( and their porter ).  But, 
the Drs say that beer isn't that good for my cholesterol situation, so the 
remnants of a 12 pack that I bought last August lingers in my 'beer fridge', 
and I tend to drink tequila now.  My preferred, so far, is Herradura Anejo 
and usually have a bottle of Patron Anejo for those who prefer to taste less 
( perhaps my pallet is not very refined ) and then I keep Jose Cuervo Silver 
for those who prefer a mixed drink.  I also have a botle of Herradura 
Reposado, that just seems to sit there and a bottle of Mescal with the worm 
that the seal hasn't neen broken on.  I don't feel the need to eat the worm 
anymore; I've seen god enough times now.  I would love to try some of Brad's 
1942 Don Julio, but he's too far away ... ;)


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>

Where the heck is the Smithwick?


----- Original Message -----
From: "chuck" <cciaffone at verizon.net>

 > What... No Old Peculier? No Riggwelter?? What about
 > London Pride or Landlord?? Are any of those bottle
 > conditioned real ales???
 >
 > chuck
 >
 > Charlie wrote:
 >> I am a beer snob and don't mind being so.
 >> Currently in the chiller:
 >>
 >> Lienies Berry Weis
 >> Red Tail lager (good beer for Bud puriest)
 >> Peache Lambic
 >> Frambois Lambic
 >> Warsteiner Prem Dunkle
 >> Leinies Creamy Dark
 >> Full Sail Amber
 >> Full Sail Pale Ale
 >> Sam Adams Creame Stout
 >> Newcastle Brown
 >> Hafbrau Hefe Weizen
 >> Bridgeport ESB
 >> Tilburg Dutch Brown
 >> Prankster Golden Ale
 >> Chimay (blue label)
 >> St Bernardus Tripel
 >> St Bernardus Abt12 (for special occasions or special people)
 >> and one Budweiser for those that can't remember what a bad beer REALLY
 >> tastes
 >> like and only to be opened in case of emergency (just opening it would 
be
 >> the
 >> emergency)
 >>
 >> Not bragging I just like to have a good selection, many of these I just
 >> have
 >> one or two of at the moment some are 6 packs.  Friends bring them over 
we
 >> try
 >> them and they leave them for next time.
 >>
 >> Did I mention I have a bug eye I need to get going??
 >>
 >> Charlie
 >> OKC,OK

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Fri Jun  6 10:00:19 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:00:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <007101c8c7eb$1bc9a160$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<48491701.3060306@verizon.net>
	<007101c8c7eb$1bc9a160$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <43369.164.58.184.10.1212768019.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

A fine Irish brew it is!

> Where the heck is the Smithwick?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 10:25:34 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:25:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F401859617F34252AC8A139B8B70@phx.gbl>
References: <007101c8c7eb$1bc9a160$6401a8c0@personal>
	<BAY112-F401859617F34252AC8A139B8B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806060925m7eed44acpe6b143706f084cf9@mail.gmail.com>

The Band of Heathens allowed me to attend the TPSA convention last summer,
as their "videographer". This meant setting up the camera, pushing record
when the show started, and then leaving to walk the floor.
The TPSA, for those that don't know, is the Texas Package Store Association.
This is the group that sells all the BOOZE!!!
For those in "industry" that have been to conventions, for whatever,
imagine, if you can, a world where EVERY booth is trying to get you drunk!!!
Anyway, I tried a sip of most every tequila there. They poured a shot, but I
just gave it a sip, and usually moved on.
One booth had an interesting combination. They had Sammy Hagar's Cabo Wabo
Uno (his ultra premium tequila @ $230 a bottle) and Casa Noble (No-Blay,
rhymes with play) at $80 a bottle. The Casa Noble is a MUCH better tasting
tequila, for about a 1/3 of the price.
This is of course based on a room temperature, no salt, no lime, taste test,
using only my taste buds as a reference. YMMV.

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Don't look at me!  I didn't take it! ;)
>
> My preferred beer is Sleeman's India Pale Ale ( and their porter ).  But,
> the Drs say that beer isn't that good for my cholesterol situation, so the
> remnants of a 12 pack that I bought last August lingers in my 'beer
> fridge',
> and I tend to drink tequila now.  My preferred, so far, is Herradura Anejo
> and usually have a bottle of Patron Anejo for those who prefer to taste
> less
> ( perhaps my pallet is not very refined ) and then I keep Jose Cuervo
> Silver
> for those who prefer a mixed drink.  I also have a botle of Herradura
> Reposado, that just seems to sit there and a bottle of Mescal with the worm
> that the seal hasn't neen broken on.  I don't feel the need to eat the worm
> anymore; I've seen god enough times now.  I would love to try some of
> Brad's
> 1942 Don Julio, but he's too far away ... ;)
>
>

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 10:39:03 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:39:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
Message-ID: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>

Lester wrote:
> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:
>
>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there  
>> would be
>> plenty of warning.
> 
> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we  
> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person  
> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny  
> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
> 
> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)

Maybe you're married? :)

-- 
Kent
1956 100 BN2

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri Jun  6 10:45:47 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:45:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484969BB.3090800@b2systems.com>

kentmclean at comcast.net wrote:
> Lester wrote:
>   
>> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:
>>
>>     
>>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there  
>>> would be
>>> plenty of warning.
>>>       
>> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we  
>> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person  
>> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny  
>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
>>
>> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)
>>     
>
> Maybe you're married? :)
>
>   
  To the WRONG woman ! My wife would know that noise was and change the 
CV herself and when I got home would most likely say something like I 
did the hard part, you start the BBQ.

  No she is not available and she had no sisters :)

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 11:06:22 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:06:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
Message-ID: <c4f.2d15852c.357ac88e@aol.com>

'course the gun was made in China!
 
In a message dated 06/06/2008 04:02:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

Didja  know that Frank Zappa's beer buzzed cat shot a hole in Frank's 
silicone  brake fluid master cylinder with a stolen gun?
It's true! I read it right  here on the internet Al Gore invented.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  6 11:15:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:15:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <33030821.39591212703590163.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune12.reunion.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F366FADC0C2FDE571F9FBC3B8B70@phx.gbl>

I almost put spridgets in the spam list reflexively when I saw this ( 
without really looking at who it was from).

----Original Message Follows----
From: Ben Fenwick <jeepman_94 at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT)

Hi,

I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect with 
me so we can keep in touch.
-Ben

Do You Know Ben?
YES - Connect with Ben, and see who's searching for you
http://www.reunion.com/showInviteRegistration.do?uid=262898212
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun  6 11:18:39 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:18:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<484969BB.3090800@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c8c7f9$5d6e8f50$01fea8c0@C600>

How about brothers?

Kate
> 
>   No she is not available and she had no sisters :)
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun  6 11:23:11 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 10:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  OT- Beer
References: <c4f.2d15852c.357ac88e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001701c8c7f9$ff06a9b0$01fea8c0@C600>

Actually, this is not necessarily a bad thing.  Guns are one of the few
things that China makes well. Since most of the military consists of
uneducated conscripts, the tolerances of weapons are so loose that they will
fire with the barrel full of mud.

Kate


> 'course the gun was made in China!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 11:29:15 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:29:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F366FADC0C2FDE571F9FBC3B8B70@phx.gbl>
References: <33030821.39591212703590163.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune12.reunion.com>
	<BAY112-F366FADC0C2FDE571F9FBC3B8B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806061029t6ac0e7ads12759d4a87c6c1a7@mail.gmail.com>

I use Gmail, and it is quite intuitive. It blocks the sender, not the group.
If you are interested in an invite for an account, let me know, I'll send
you one.

Brad


On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I almost put spridgets in the spam list reflexively when I saw this (
> without really looking at who it was from).
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Ben Fenwick <jeepman_94 at yahoo.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:06:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Hi,
>
> I looked for you on Reunion.com, but you weren't there. Please connect with
> me so we can keep in touch.
> -Ben
>
> Do You Know Ben?
> YES - Connect with Ben, and see who's searching for you
> http://www.reunion.com/showInviteRegistration.do?uid=262898212
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Jun  6 11:30:33 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:30:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber Bumper Parts
Message-ID: <48497439.5050302@lehigh.edu>

To the list member who is looking for rubber bumpers, there are two 
auctions on ebay with 1 day left. Item # 190226440347 & 190226442388
Good Luck,
John
Fogelsville, PA

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 11:54:58 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:54:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C0EB4CB2-20DC-414F-9D93-9A2981ADB2CB@comcast.net>

Let me say that my wife is looking for a new car now that no one needs  
a minivan.  She wants a "sports car" that's "cute".  First criteria,  
auto trans.. arrgghh.. second , heated seats.  Performance is not  
mentioned..  if I had a beer I'l be crying in it..  ;-)

.. but how did ya know??  ;-)

Lester

On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:39 AM, kentmclean at comcast.net wrote:

> Lester wrote:
>> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:
>>
>>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there
>>> would be
>>> plenty of warning.
>>
>> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we
>> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person
>> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny
>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
>>
>> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)
>
> Maybe you're married? :)
>
> -- 
> Kent
> 1956 100 BN2
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 11:58:33 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:58:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <484969BB.3090800@b2systems.com>
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<484969BB.3090800@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <3F36F7A3-86F5-4D7B-8E8E-078CDF4755A9@comcast.net>

I heard about her... years ago, I thought that it was just a rumor..   
it's true..  so you're the one.

Lester

.. and, No sweetie, you aren't the wrong woman..  (Ya never know who  
reads these things..)



On Jun 6, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Mike Rambour wrote:

> kentmclean at comcast.net wrote:
>> Lester wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there
>>>> would be
>>>> plenty of warning.
>>>>
>>> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we
>>> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person
>>> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny
>>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you're married? :)
>>
>>
>  To the WRONG woman ! My wife would know that noise was and change the
> CV herself and when I got home would most likely say something like I
> did the hard part, you start the BBQ.
>
>  No she is not available and she had no sisters :)
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  6 12:04:10 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:04:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <001701c8c7f9$ff06a9b0$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3927B65298D23B20325E15B8B70@phx.gbl>

Doesn't that cause the barrel to burst in some cases ??

Up here, the training course that you have to go on to be able to get a 
hunting permit is extremely anal about checking for blocked barrels.  As one 
example, the tester hands you a shotgun and says show me how you would shoot 
at those immaginary ducks flying by over there.  If you don't check the 
firearm for a blocked barrel before you show him, you can book your next 
test, because you didn't pass that one.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Kate" <kgb at frontiernet.net>

Actually, this is not necessarily a bad thing.  Guns are one of the few
things that China makes well. Since most of the military consists of
uneducated conscripts, the tolerances of weapons are so loose that they will
fire with the barrel full of mud.

Kate


 > 'course the gun was made in China!

From hal at katemuir.com  Fri Jun  6 12:05:08 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:05:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>

http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
Hal

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Fri Jun  6 12:05:09 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:05:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint  Now Sports Car
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<C0EB4CB2-20DC-414F-9D93-9A2981ADB2CB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0CC6AF54F3D14E9BB7025D23771D4CAA@Dell9200>

Hell Lester,

Did you marry my ex???  Plus it had to be a Z3, 3.0 with a POWER Top!!  
If you didn't then please help me find someone......Car is Blue
Bonus $ to the lucky guy.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>


Let me say that my wife is looking for a new car now that no one needs  
a minivan.  She wants a "sports car" that's "cute".  First criteria,  
auto trans.. arrgghh.. second , heated seats.  Performance is not  
mentioned..  if I had a beer I'l be crying in it..  ;-)

.. but how did ya know??  ;-)

Lester

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  6 12:23:43 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:23:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39ADF2DA4259C7A8038EE0B8B70@phx.gbl>

I guess it is nice compared to the wheelchair the photographer is sitting 
in?

>>Body in need of some repairs

Really?  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>

http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
Hal

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun  6 12:29:23 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:29:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39ADF2DA4259C7A8038EE0B8B70@phx.gbl>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
	<BAY112-F39ADF2DA4259C7A8038EE0B8B70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080606132803.03937e90@nosimport.com>

It's a toss up with the trailer.

Frank?.......


At 01:23 PM 6/6/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
>I guess it is nice compared to the wheelchair the photographer is sitting
>in?
>
> >>Body in need of some repairs
>
>Really?  :)
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
>Hal

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri Jun  6 12:38:00 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 13:38:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <003301c8c804$73045fb0$6401a8c0@personal>

I think the price is about right as is with trailer.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?


> http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  6 13:19:23 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:19:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080606132803.03937e90@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F380017C495F77606341F03B8B70@phx.gbl>

Someone is already in for the $500 without the trailer ...

----Original Message Follows----
From: Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:29:23 -0500

It's a toss up with the trailer.

Frank?.......


At 01:23 PM 6/6/2008, Robert Duquette wrote:
 >I guess it is nice compared to the wheelchair the photographer is sitting
 >in?
 >
 > >>Body in need of some repairs
 >
 >Really?  :)
 >
 >----Original Message Follows----
 >From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
 >
 >http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
 >Hal
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 13:31:46 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:31:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Boots
Message-ID: <c0e.320ac880.357aeaa2@aol.com>

Yeah, or  something like the old speed boots from an old beetle.
 
I've heard them called Beatle boots, or DQBs, but never "speed"  boots.




Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.


In a message dated 6/5/2008 9:03:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:







**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 14:02:26 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:02:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question
Message-ID: <cea.3523ae19.357af1d2@aol.com>

I know it's off topic and I don't even own an ascot, but our local Jag  
dealer has been advertising deals that look attractive for XK8 and XKR  models.  
Currently has a 2003 XKR with 50K miles for $22,000.
 
I've got to say I'm tempted.  Anyone have any experience with these  models 
and their reliability?
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and 
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From dmeadow at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 14:10:13 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:10:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question
Message-ID: <20080606.151013.10606.0@webmail05.vgs.untd.com>

I'm also looking at buying a used Jag, though XJ8.  Consumer Reports generally
rates the newer-era Jags at about the same as BMW for repair history.  Both
BMW and Jaguar are rated better than Mercedes.  Of course, you've go to factor
in the fact that Ford no longer owns Jaguar and you've got a new owner that
may or may not keep the same level of service.
If I were you, I'd think about a paying a bit more for a lower mileage car
that still has some warranty left.  Jaguar provides a 6 year / 100k warranty
on their Certified used cars.  They seem anxious to deal, too.
Check out this website for a benchmark for prices, etc.
www.texascarsdirect.com.


-- RampantNM at aol.com wrote:
I know it's off topic and I don't even own an ascot, but our local Jag
dealer has been advertising deals that look attractive for XK8 and XKR
models.
Currently has a 2003 XKR with 50K miles for $22,000.

I've got to say I'm tempted.  Anyone have any experience with these  models
and their reliability?

Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced
hands,
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
adjusted as
described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.




**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 14:36:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:36:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT- Beer
In-Reply-To: <001701c8c7f9$ff06a9b0$01fea8c0@C600>
References: <c4f.2d15852c.357ac88e@aol.com>
	<001701c8c7f9$ff06a9b0$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806061336v643d8508xdcdff8a34ec68359@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent observation, Kate!  When I arrived at my forward base in 'nam with
my 6 member forward weather support team, a Marine Lt. whom I shall forever
be grateful to had us un-sling out M-16s (M = miserable) and pitch them in
the nearest binju ditch (sewer). They then gave us captured SKS's in 7.62
from the armory. I used that gun frequently for my year in country and
kissed it when I left it to my relief. The best @*&!@(#*  weapon I every
fired!  Almost zero maintenance and it never jammed or failed us!  Fooled
Charlie a few times too when he heard a Kalashnikov in the dense jungle and
assumed it was a friend   ;-}   The only weapon I would have considered
trading it for was the Marine's M-14 purely for the knock down power!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Kate <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Actually, this is not necessarily a bad thing.  Guns are one of the few
> things that China makes well. Since most of the military consists of
> uneducated conscripts, the tolerances of weapons are so loose that they
> will
> fire with the barrel full of mud.
>
> Kate
>
>
> > 'course the gun was made in China!
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 14:56:08 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:56:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
Message-ID: <c22.3a0afb6a.357afe68@aol.com>

I'd love to shoot cats but I don't have any guns.
 
Cap'n Bob
 
In a message dated 06/06/2008 11:51:35 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

cats -  haven't had any in 20 years.  I also love to shoot  guns,

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 14:58:21 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:58:21 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
Message-ID: <c15.1770b303.357afeed@aol.com>

I got that as well and deleted it.  Do I really know Ben?
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 06/06/2008 18:16:07 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

I almost  put spridgets in the spam list reflexively when I saw this ( 
without  really looking at who it was from).

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 15:10:37 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:10:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806061029t6ac0e7ads12759d4a87c6c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <33030821.39591212703590163.JavaMail.JBoss@neptune12.reunion.com>
	<BAY112-F366FADC0C2FDE571F9FBC3B8B70@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090806061029t6ac0e7ads12759d4a87c6c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806061410n7178a1d1l7ef0522bac8d2f28@mail.gmail.com>

You can still send invites but they're no longer required ... Anyone can now
go to www.gmail.com and sign up to create a new account.

Gmail certainly has it's troubles but all-in-all it's not bad and I find it
very handy for keeping my MG (and jokes!) email separate from my day-to-day
email.


On 6/6/08, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> I use Gmail, and it is quite intuitive. It blocks the sender, not the
group.
> If you are interested in an invite for an account, let me know, I'll send
> you one.

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 15:43:25 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:43:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Jubilee Panorama
Message-ID: <c31.33978e33.357b097d@aol.com>

I received my copy of the panorama photo today from Chadwick. Of the  
reported 112+/- cars registered, in the photo there are 62 Sprites, 1 Midget, 2  Big 
Healey's, 1 new MINI and the Spridget give-away car.....67 total cars  shown. 
The photo turned out great !!
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.  



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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 15:45:37 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:45:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <c15.1770b303.357afeed@aol.com>
References: <c15.1770b303.357afeed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806061445v6bcf034av787c644cf860f763@mail.gmail.com>

Ben?   Is that Ben Dover?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim  -  And much more of this kind of humor at LotO later this month   ;-{

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:58 PM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> I got that as well and deleted it.  Do I really know Ben?
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
>
> In a message dated 06/06/2008 18:16:07 GMT Daylight Time,
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>
> I almost  put spridgets in the spam list reflexively when I saw this (
> without  really looking at who it was from).
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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun  6 16:13:13 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:13:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A29CC264B3134BF4A029BB4A9C65F097@Home>

>> For the person that is not a car person they will drive the car with 
>> "that funny
>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.

I asked my wife about this, and she agreed that she would just keep driving 
and wondering what that noise is.  She might mention it.  Sometime.  Maybe.

Michael Rowe 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 16:16:54 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:16:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Boots
In-Reply-To: <c0e.320ac880.357aeaa2@aol.com>
References: <c0e.320ac880.357aeaa2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806061516g4e68f78fr2466fc0437000b1f@mail.gmail.com>

We called 'em "speed boots" cuz you could change 'em fast

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:31 PM, <RampantNM at aol.com> wrote:

> Yeah, or  something like the old speed boots from an old beetle.
>
> I've heard them called Beatle boots, or DQBs, but never "speed"  boots.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert B. Houston
>
> 74.5 MGBGT
> 73 MG  Midget
>
> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed,
> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for  experienced
> hands,
> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be  inspected and
> adjusted as
> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop  manual.
>
>
> In a message dated 6/5/2008 9:03:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with
> Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.
> (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun  6 16:25:15 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:25:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OT - Beer
References: <c22.3a0afb6a.357afe68@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c8c824$31e8d720$01fea8c0@C600>

WHAAAAAT????????

Kate

> I'd love to shoot cats but I don't have any guns.
>  
> Cap'n Bob

From kramer.allen at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 16:35:39 2008
From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:35:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 cc engine
Message-ID: <060620082235.24237.4849BBBB0001798500005EAD2200758942020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net>

Please help,
Just came back from a ride. I'm getting a miss at about 3500 - 4000 rpm when I am crusing along. If I am cruising along at 3000 rpm I do not notice the miss. . It pulls strong under load without a miss in 4 gear up through the rpm range when accelerating from 40 mph to 65 mph. The engine goes through the rpm range up to 5500 rpm when going through the gears without missing, The engine idles fine.
Ok I am running a Judson w/ Holley carb but I do not think this set up is causing my grief. It was running perfectly fine before this summer. It is running very well other than this problem.
Thank you,
Allen
1960 Bugeye

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 17:12:42 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:12:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080606132803.03937e90@nosimport.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
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	<7.0.1.0.2.20080606132803.03937e90@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4849C46A.8030303@comcast.net>

Peter C wrote:
> It's a toss up with the trailer.
>
> Frank?.......
>
>   
I think it's nice, I have restored worse.
It's a lot nicer than the 63 I just dragged home.
But I don't want nor need another project as I have Father Jack's Bugeye 
to do.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 17:22:21 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:22:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar Question
In-Reply-To: <cea.3523ae19.357af1d2@aol.com>
References: <cea.3523ae19.357af1d2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4849C6AD.50703@comcast.net>

RampantNM at aol.com wrote:
> I know it's off topic and I don't even own an ascot, but our local Jag  
> dealer has been advertising deals that look attractive for XK8 and XKR  models.  
> Currently has a 2003 XKR with 50K miles for $22,000.
>  
> I've got to say I'm tempted.  Anyone have any experience with these  models 
> and their reliability?
>
>   
Having had an old series 3 XJ6 (pre Ford), and later an X type and now 
an S type, I can say that Ford has improved the reliability of the new 
Jags from the older ones.
If you can do the basic stuff yourself, that's good, dealers charge $350 
for the "Special" which includes new wiper blades and an oil change. And 
they advertise this! But they *check* everything, yeah right.
I now own an 03 S type, so far only the clutch safety switch got stuck, 
but try to figure out why the car wouldn't start.
I would love a book but they are only on CDs, I can't work on the car in 
the driveway and look at a CD on the computer at the same time, yeah I 
could print pages out but my printer is chinese, it never works.
Most of the parts are made in England, at least from what I have seen 
with what little work I have done to the S.
I like mine, but I also liked my old XJ6, and working on that was not 
too bad, basic MG electrics but lots more of them.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 17:23:45 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 17:23:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 cc engine
In-Reply-To: <060620082235.24237.4849BBBB0001798500005EAD2200758942020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net>
References: <060620082235.24237.4849BBBB0001798500005EAD2200758942020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806061623ucbca46cr2b9ecb63f163c199@mail.gmail.com>

Check the dizzy cap and wires?  I assume that you have your timing
right and aren't getting detonation.
Always check the ground strap.
Also, could that be the range where the Holley does something?  Like
circuit progression?
Maybe something quirky in the inverse oiler?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 17:24:34 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:24:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Jubilee Panorama
In-Reply-To: <c31.33978e33.357b097d@aol.com>
References: <c31.33978e33.357b097d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4849C732.2010700@comcast.net>

Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> I received my copy of the panorama photo today from Chadwick. 
Mine came too. And I am in it twice, 1 picture, 2 of me and Bob M. :)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun  6 18:39:03 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:39:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Jubilee Panorama
References: <c31.33978e33.357b097d@aol.com>
  <4849C732.2010700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <016401c8c836$e42888b0$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Mine came too. And I am in it twice, 1 picture, 2 of me>>

Some of us KNOW you Frank, so the above is NOT suprising!!!!  LOL

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun  6 18:52:02 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:52:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <357A72354DA043BDBF579E1633921FCE@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20080605.224333.3668.0.dmeadow@juno.com>
	<EE94B925-DDB4-47DF-BDD1-FE55DA978095@comcast.net>
	<357A72354DA043BDBF579E1633921FCE@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <5EB48AB5F5DD433EB2D7B8263CC9A89B@Home>

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I went to three stores before I found that 
AutoZone carries "Quick Boots" with clamps and a bag of grease  for $17. 
That ought to last for a year, which is all that is required.  I suspect, 
however, that the duck tape method will prevail, as it does not require 
taking off the old boot.  (It's yucky.)

Michael Rowe 

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Fri Jun  6 18:55:30 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:55:30 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Jubilee Panorama
Message-ID: <cff.329a84c6.357b3682@aol.com>

Yeah...I forgot to mention the two sets of  twins.



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun  6 19:15:15 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:15:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT- Beer-in the cooler
In-Reply-To: <00ad01c8c7e9$8e8afd40$01fea8c0@C600>
References: <919717.24365.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c8c78a$3ada79f0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>
	<48491701.3060306@verizon.net> <00ad01c8c7e9$8e8afd40$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <384097775.20080606181515@pacifier.com>

Hello Kate,

     Can't speak for the rest of the convoy (the other ONE.. count 'em
     ONE, TWO cars in the convoy, but i'm not much of a drinker
     either.. once in while to be sociable, but not something i
     generally do......

     I do appreciate the offer tho..... hey, we're gonna have to get
     directions to YOUR place pretty soon.. only a couple of weeks
     till we light out of these parts headin' fer yourn!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  'Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  6 19:29:12 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:29:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
In-Reply-To: <c15.1770b303.357afeed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <329470.59629.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:

> I got that as well and deleted it.  Do I really know
> Ben?

He races a Miata.

Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  6 19:35:49 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:35:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How Many?
Message-ID: <4849E5F5.5070805@comcast.net>

With my recent 63 Sprite, I updated my list of Spridgets I have owned.
I am only up to 61.
Some I restored, some I sold, some I parted, but I still have 7 of them 
in or around my house.
3 on the road, 1 to be restored, one Bugeye shell just in case, a 71 
racer that my never see the road, and a 63 that even I will not attempt 
to restore so it will get parted out. Much of it for Father Jack's 
Bugeye project.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun  6 19:36:55 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 20:36:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Please connect with me :)
References: <329470.59629.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <62C481EA59504286B834CAED4B18AED6@midget>

>> I got that as well and deleted it.  Do I really know
>> Ben?
 
> He races a Miata.

Well, any friend of Ron's...

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun  6 19:53:48 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:53:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Many?
In-Reply-To: <4849E5F5.5070805@comcast.net>
References: <4849E5F5.5070805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00b401c8c841$54e2fa90$991bf304@spider>

The 1971 qualifies for Historic Racing. If it has any pedigree it would be
of use to someone. ...bill in oregon

==========================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:36 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] How Many?

With my recent 63 Sprite, I updated my list of Spridgets I have owned.
I am only up to 61.
Some I restored, some I sold, some I parted, but I still have 7 of them 
in or around my house.
3 on the road, 1 to be restored, one Bugeye shell just in case, a 71 
racer that my never see the road, and a 63 that even I will not attempt 
to restore so it will get parted out. Much of it for Father Jack's 
Bugeye project.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jun  6 20:40:53 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 19:40:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wife looking for a car
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<C0EB4CB2-20DC-414F-9D93-9A2981ADB2CB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <015601c8c847$e9068150$6600a8c0@dave>

I actually drove a Pontiac Solstice with the automatic transmission, and it 
surprised me.  It was actually fun to drive, not in a spridget kind of way, 
but still way better than your average car.
David Riker


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint


> Let me say that my wife is looking for a new car now that no one needs
> a minivan.  She wants a "sports car" that's "cute".  First criteria,
> auto trans.. arrgghh.. second , heated seats.  Performance is not
> mentioned..  if I had a beer I'l be crying in it..  ;-)
>
> .. but how did ya know??  ;-)
>
> Lester

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Jun  6 20:55:33 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:55:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Wife looking for a car
In-Reply-To: <015601c8c847$e9068150$6600a8c0@dave>
References: <060620081639.1561.4849682700085147000006192212020784020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net>
	<C0EB4CB2-20DC-414F-9D93-9A2981ADB2CB@comcast.net>
	<015601c8c847$e9068150$6600a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <060720080255.4509.4849F8A20009C2930000119D22243429029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

Like maybe better than your average Pontiac?  

  -------------- Original message from "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>: --------------


> I actually drove a Pontiac Solstice with the automatic transmission, and it 
> surprised me.  It was actually fun to drive, not in a spridget kind of way, 
> but still way better than your average car.
> David Riker

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 23:24:44 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 00:24:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] How Many?
In-Reply-To: <00b401c8c841$54e2fa90$991bf304@spider>
References: <4849E5F5.5070805@comcast.net>
	<00b401c8c841$54e2fa90$991bf304@spider>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806062224o560943dciddc4ee7c07ae888f@mail.gmail.com>

All this talk reminds me.  There is a 66 Midget here in town in unknown
condition (mechanically and electrically) but the tub is very good with
little rust except surface rust on the floor pans. It is an Arizona car and
was apparently last running in 1999. I think the guy who has it would take
three bills for it. Evidently my "leaking Lena" Midget (she of the
persistent torrent of oil from the engine back plate) will NOT be making the
trip to LotO (unless there is some miracle oil leak cure) so I could tow the
66 there if anyone might be interested and want to tow it home from LotO.
Holler if there is interest.  You can find a bunch of picks at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/sets/72157602999249000/

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/6/08, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> The 1971 qualifies for Historic Racing. If it has any pedigree it would be
> of use to someone. ...bill in oregon
>
> ==========================================================================
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis <spridgets-bounces%2Bcorvallis>=
> peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of Frank Clarici
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:36 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] How Many?
>
> With my recent 63 Sprite, I updated my list of Spridgets I have owned.
> I am only up to 61.
> Some I restored, some I sold, some I parted, but I still have 7 of them
> in or around my house.
> 3 on the road, 1 to be restored, one Bugeye shell just in case, a 71
> racer that my never see the road, and a 63 that even I will not attempt
> to restore so it will get parted out. Much of it for Father Jack's
> Bugeye project.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From smarc at smarc.net  Sat Jun  7 00:18:34 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:18:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
Message-ID: <484A283A.4090904@smarc.net>

Got home early enough to start on the engine pull. Printed out the list 
and hit the garage.

Pretty much uneventful. Biggest challenge was unbolting the slave from 
the transmission. Finally figured out I was going to have to undo the 
top bolt through the little access hole on the passenger side. What a 
PITA! Is there a better way? That cost me a lot of time. Putting it back 
in should be a joy... I'm planning to replace the slave and the hose, 
which appears to be vintage... Bleeding via the access hole looks 
challenging as well...

Lots of little things, like the engine lift wouldn't slide under the 
front of the car without hitting the tie rods. So time lost while 
scouting up some 2x6's to put under the front tires to gain clearance.

Got everything undone, and went to remove the engine. Came to the 
realization pretty quickly that I must have missed some tranny mounting 
bolts. I had removed the two underneath, but had missed the two inside 
the car.

Split the transmission off as well. Looks like I need a new ring gear too...

It took roughly 3 hours total - not too bad considering thats the first 
time I have ever pulled an engine. I would say that the engine removal 
list was very helpful - thanks to all of you for helping me flesh that out.

I'm thinking about power washing and degreasing while the engine is out. 
And theres a lot of crud in the tunnel...

-- 

Marc

From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  7 00:42:01 2008
From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:42:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
Message-ID: <619127.45748.qm@web36403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You can partially pull the engine/trans out, and when the slave is visible,
disconnect it, When you put the assy back in, bleed the clutch, A speed
bleeder works well here.
 
Roger Cotting



----- Original Message ----
From:
Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Saturday, June 7, 2008 2:18:34 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull

Got home
early enough to start on the engine pull. Printed out the list 
and hit the
garage.

Pretty much uneventful. Biggest challenge was unbolting the slave
from 
the transmission. Finally figured out I was going to have to undo the
top bolt through the little access hole on the passenger side. What a 
PITA!
Is there a better way? That cost me a lot of time. Putting it back 
in should
be a joy... I'm planning to replace the slave and the hose, 
which appears to
be vintage... Bleeding via the access hole looks 
challenging as well...

Lots
of little things, like the engine lift wouldn't slide under the 
front of the
car without hitting the tie rods. So time lost while 
scouting up some 2x6's
to put under the front tires to gain clearance.

Got everything undone, and
went to remove the engine. Came to the 
realization pretty quickly that I must
have missed some tranny mounting 
bolts. I had removed the two underneath, but
had missed the two inside 
the car.

Split the transmission off as well. Looks
like I need a new ring gear too...

It took roughly 3 hours total - not too
bad considering thats the first 
time I have ever pulled an engine. I would
say that the engine removal 
list was very helpful - thanks to all of you for
helping me flesh that out.

I'm thinking about power washing and degreasing
while the engine is out. 
And theres a lot of crud in the tunnel...

-- 

Marc
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun  7 03:38:34 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:38:34 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
In-Reply-To: <484A283A.4090904@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <001801c8c882$41cce5b0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Marc,
Before you reassemble, shorten those two slave cylinder bolts and grind a
slight pointy bit on the end. It will make re-fitting and removal very much
easier.

If you just remove the slave cylinder and leave it connected with its
flexible pipe, then there should be no need to re-bleed it - assuming it was
working OK before.

Ring gears can look quite bad but be perfectly OK. There is a chamfer on the
rear edge of the teeth that gets burred over but that is acceptable and not
to worry over. That said, replacing a ring gear seems a bit scary in case it
goes wrong, but very easy when you actually do it!

Sounds like you did pretty well. It takes me 1hour 15mins to remove engine
and gearbox together, but then I have done this quite a few times.   ;-)

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Marc
Sent: 07 June 2008 07:19
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull


Got home early enough to start on the engine pull. Printed out the list
and hit the garage.

Pretty much uneventful. Biggest challenge was unbolting the slave from
the transmission. Finally figured out I was going to have to undo the
top bolt through the little access hole on the passenger side. What a
PITA! Is there a better way? That cost me a lot of time. Putting it back
in should be a joy... I'm planning to replace the slave and the hose,
which appears to be vintage... Bleeding via the access hole looks
challenging as well...


Split the transmission off as well. Looks like I need a new ring gear too...

It took roughly 3 hours total - not too bad considering thats the first
time I have ever pulled an engine.

Marc

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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun  7 03:49:12 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 10:49:12 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint
In-Reply-To: <89F41DC730A4476DB5DAD715CBC6E523@TAIRS>
Message-ID: <001d01c8c883$be0cccc0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

My wife collected her car from a routine garage service. After a couple of
miles she noticed a red light on the dash that she thought wasn't there
before, but as it had just been serviced she assumed they had fixed
something and it was supposed to be like that.

10 miles later the engine siezed, blew out the crank seals, broke a con rod.
Totalled the engine.
She called out the breakdown service. The man opened the bonnet and said -
where's your radiator cap?

We then had 10 months of battling with the garage before they would accept
that their "mechanic" had forgotten to replace the filler cap when he
checked the water.
Talk about understanding the consequences!

Guy
(the other one)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Guy R Day
Sent: 31 May 2008 09:37
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint


My wife broke a coil spring on her Audi TT and only commented in passing
there was a funny noise when she went over a bump.  No real concern, she was
worried more when the CD changer jammed.
It is the knowledge of what consequences can be that creates worry.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Rambour" <mikey at b2systems.com>
To: <kentmclean at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Honda CV Joint


> kentmclean at comcast.net wrote:
>> Lester wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you an almost all points.  Except for this one:

>>>
>>>> Bad CV joints won't strand a car, someone else noted that there
>>>> would be plenty of warning.
>>>>
>>> For a car person that's true.  The CV's will get to a point where we
>>> will know that it is time to stop driving the car.  For the person
>>> that is not a car person they will drive the car with "that funny
>>> noise" until the CV's fall out or shear.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm too negative..  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Maybe you're married? :)
>>
>>
>  To the WRONG woman ! My wife would know that noise was and change the
> CV herself and when I got home would most likely say something like I
> did the hard part, you start the BBQ.
>
>  No she is not available and she had no sisters :)
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From dmeadow at juno.com  Sat Jun  7 05:28:52 2008
From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 06:28:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
Message-ID: <20080607.062852.1604.0.dmeadow@juno.com>

I'm constantly pulling engines on the racecar, so I'm always looking for
ways to make it easier.  I cut a slot in the top bolt hole in the slave
cylinder.  I put the top bolt in the transmission case before installing
the engine, leaving enough clearance to slide the slave cylinder under
it.  That way you only have to turn the bolt a few times to tighten it
up.  I also bought shorter bolts at the hardware store.  I've also heard
of people cutting the head off the top bolt, using loctite when threading
it in to hold it in place, then putting the slave over it when
installing.  Then only the bottom bolt is holding the slave in place.

If I need to bleed the slave, I let it hang and use an oil can to pump
fluid into the slave nipple so it pushes the air up towards the master. 
Then I mount and finish bleeding it normally.  I also have attached an
"extension" onto the slave bleeder that brings the nipple up into the
engine compartment where it is easily accessible.  Winners Circle sells
these www.spridget.com.

David

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:18:34 -0400 Marc <smarc at smarc.net> writes:
> Pretty much uneventful. Biggest challenge was unbolting the slave 
> from 
> the transmission. Finally figured out I was going to have to undo 
> the 
> top bolt through the little access hole on the passenger side. What 
> a 
> PITA! Is there a better way? That cost me a lot of time. Putting it 
> back 
> in should be a joy... I'm planning to replace the slave and the 
> hose, 
> which appears to be vintage... Bleeding via the access hole looks 
> challenging as well...
> 
____________________________________________________________
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 06:43:54 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:43:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Great and Touching Story!
Message-ID: <060720081243.22218.484A828A0003FEB6000056CA2215553894C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I want you guys to be aware of a very touching story that was carried in the local Knoxville (TN) News-Sentinel on May 29.  I was aware this was going on but didn't have a part in it.  I do know some of the guys who were involved.  I think you will find it supremely interesting!  B^)

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/may/29/restoration-of-dreams/

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 08:22:46 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 07:22:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
In-Reply-To: <484A283A.4090904@smarc.net>
References: <484A283A.4090904@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <1343509454.20080607072246@pacifier.com>

Hello Marc,

     too cool... love it when it all works out.. .. now when you go to
     put it back in, don't forget that little wiggle to the left and
     right to get it past the steering column! .. and if you removed
     the engine mounts, remember the one with the cut-around is the
     one on the right....

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Many are cold but few are frozen. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun  7 08:45:18 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 09:45:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 6 Wheel Mini Pickup
Message-ID: <023b01c8c8ad$1b9f47e0$6401a8c0@Larry>

For when you have very small, but very heavy loads:


http://tinyurl.com/66rhft

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun  7 09:28:52 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:28:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP0443183E6EB65E0200FD1DB8B60@CEZ.ICE>

This Austin comes with a trailer:
http://vancouver.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-AUSTIN-NIPPY-Very-Ra
re-1935-English-Sports-Car-W0QQAdIdZ48028838

http://preview.tinyurl.com/5esflh


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Hal Faulkner
Sent: June 6, 2008 2:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?

http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
Hal

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Jun  7 11:50:24 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:50:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly
Message-ID: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Having a senior moment, here, guys.  I'm painting my '73 Midget
restoration project, and I've come up with a memory blank.  Is the
entire assembly painted body color, or are the insides of the shrouds,
which will flank the radiator, supposed to be flat black?
This is a 35,000 original mile car, but, there has been some light
collision repair done, in front.  It's been so long since I've seen a
completely original '73 Midget that I can't remember what it's supposed
to be......
Can anyone offer some memory refreshment, here?
Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Jun  7 12:24:41 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:24:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly
References: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <39153DAD4A3442ECBBCF48F842989184@midget>

Bud,
Both my 72 and my late 73 are still in their original paint and both of the 
have a bright lip on the aluminium surround with everything from there to 
the radiator a flat black (possibly semi-gloss, but looks flat to this 
uneducated eye).
David Lieb 

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 12:24:45 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:24:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] overheating or is this normal?
Message-ID: <060720081824.1271.484AD26D0000C8A3000004F72216525856000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

First summer with the midgit.  It is 98+ today here in PA.  i parked her in the sun for a few hours and when i went to get in the temp gauge read 1950 ( i have a new 1800 thermostat).  i drove for about 5 minutes and stopped at a  light and while waiting the temp shot up to 212-2150.  i pulled over opened the heater valve and drove.  when I was moving the temp went back down to 1950 but everytime i stopped it went back up to 2120 territory.  I have water, 34 year old gunk, and remnants of a recent cooling flush in the cooling system.  
Is this something to be concerned about or am I just being overly concerned.
My plan is to drain flush and refill the system with fresh water. any other suggestions.

previously when i was concerned about the cooling system and it turned out to be a blockage in the rear engine, but thanks to frank and the rest of the OSHIT crowd that went away and now this?  But this doesn't seem like a blockage issue just poor heat dispersion.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 12:27:07 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:27:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Great and Touching Story!
In-Reply-To: <060720081243.22218.484A828A0003FEB6000056CA2215553894C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <060720081243.22218.484A828A0003FEB6000056CA2215553894C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806071127p66bce764m9432884a29e353f2@mail.gmail.com>

Random acts of kindness are good for the soul.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/7/08, dlancer7676 at comcast.net <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I want you guys to be aware of a very touching story that was carried in
> the local Knoxville (TN) News-Sentinel on May 29.  I was aware this was
> going on but didn't have a part in it.  I do know some of the guys who were
> involved.  I think you will find it supremely interesting!  B^)
>
> http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/may/29/restoration-of-dreams/
>
> --David C.
> 'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'
> _______________________________________________
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Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From RampantNM at aol.com  Sat Jun  7 12:43:26 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:43:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
Message-ID: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>

In a message dated 6/7/2008 3:50:46 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

With my  recent 63 Sprite, I updated my list of Spridgets I have owned.
> I am  only up to 61


Frank,
 
Do you have pictures of all of  them?  I  know you've  documented a few 
restorations.  I for one think a history of your sprites  would make an interesting 
book.  Even if you self  published, most  on  the list would probably like to 
have one.
 
You could throw in a couple of  chapters on OSHITS and the Buster  Cluster.  
Maybe even draft Buster to write some of the copy.
 
A general chapter on upgrades, sources, and things like the smoke  gauge.
 
I understand self publishing with the computer age is relatively  inexpensive 
these days.
 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for experienced 
hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected and 
adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.



**************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun  7 13:03:12 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
Message-ID: <484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com>

On 7 Jun 2008 at 14:43, RampantNM at aol.com wrote:
>> and things like the smoke  gauge.
Smoke gauge ???  !!
Tell me more ......

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  7 13:28:07 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:28:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <658665.23672.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'll let Frank tell about it, but before he does, let me testify that it's among the coolest accessories I've seen on a Spridget or any other car.
   
  ...and while we're at it - Frank, would you happen to have documented in photos any of the reserection process of my little white '71?  I would be very interested in some before shots.
   
   - David Booker
  Long Island


"Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
  On 7 Jun 2008 at 14:43, RampantNM at aol.com wrote:
>> and things like the smoke gauge.
Smoke gauge ??? !!
Tell me more ......

--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 13:34:15 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:34:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly
In-Reply-To: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <484AE2B7.30205@comcast.net>

When I asked this about the 67, I had a couple of conflicting answers 
but the majority said those splash panels were body color.
Right or wrong, they look good in color but black would have been easier.
Try to paint those things hanging on a wire as the spray gun pressure 
blows them in a circle.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sat Jun  7 13:46:46 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:46:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly
In-Reply-To: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <001001c8c8c6$f6f9b960$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <40764E4B-5FBB-43B2-8CF4-F8282FC2F37A@mac.com>

Bud,

I think that you are going to get different answers but here is my  
two cents.

First I am not sure about a '73 but my '60 had the radiator supports  
and the front ends of the frame painted gloss black everything else  
was body color.  However I have talked with folks where only the  
radiator supports were black and other folks where none of it was  
black.  The bottom line is that it would depend on what day of the  
week it was and what paint was on hand as to how it was painted at  
the factory.  So unless you are doing a concours car do what you like.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Bud Osbourne wrote:

> Having a senior moment, here, guys.  I'm painting my '73 Midget
> restoration project, and I've come up with a memory blank.  Is the
> entire assembly painted body color, or are the insides of the shrouds,
> which will flank the radiator, supposed to be flat black?
> This is a 35,000 original mile car, but, there has been some light
> collision repair done, in front.  It's been so long since I've seen a
> completely original '73 Midget that I can't remember what it's  
> supposed
> to be......
> Can anyone offer some memory refreshment, here?
> Thanks.
> Bud Osbourne
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  7 13:49:23 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 12:49:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <484AE2B7.30205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <888811.93246.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

  Spridgeteers - I'm in process of mounting a new Mr. Gasket fuel pump and pressure regulator and have a question for the list...
   
  This adjustable regulator has three different sizes of fittings (for use with different fuel line diameters) that screw into the regulator on either side.  What should I use to seal the fittings?  Is the white vinyl tape used in plumbing fixtures OK to use here?  I wasn't sure if the fuel would dissolve it and thought I'd ask you guys rather than guess and hope it doesn't.  
   
  Thanks,
   - David Booker
  Long Island  
   
   
  
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun  7 14:13:24 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:13:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
Message-ID: <c36.2f167cac.357c45e4@aol.com>

Are these taper thread fittings - NPT or NPTF?
 
In a message dated 07/06/2008 20:49:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

This  adjustable regulator has three different sizes of fittings (for use 
with  different fuel line diameters) that screw into the regulator on either  
side.  What should I use to seal the fittings?

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 14:17:15 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (Kent Spridget)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 14:17:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New email address - No LBC
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806071317v146d7034occc1559d5a9e3b98@mail.gmail.com>

Just testing to see if this new email address is working. I'll be dropping
the Bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com address. I finally got around to doing it. How
do you like them apples Weslake1330?

Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 14:27:07 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:27:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine ground
Message-ID: <CB5726E5-589F-4844-958E-E17434A5CEA3@gmail.com>

I can't remember where to ground the engine in my Mk I.  I have a  
captive nut on the inside of the p-side footwell is that it?  And  
where on the engine?  To one of the trans mount bolts?

Thanks.


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
bugi1960 at gmail.com	

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jun  7 14:42:03 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:42:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c8c8de$f1b97fe0$01fea8c0@C600>

Most of us could probably contribute a chapter or two.  I wouldn't go with a
vanity press though. A good agent will get both a publisher and sales.

Kate



 I for one think a history of your sprites  would make an interesting
> book.  Even if you self  published, most  on  the list would probably like
to
> have one.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  7 14:50:24 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <888811.93246.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2667.48898.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> side.  What should I use to seal the fittings?  Is
> the white vinyl tape used in plumbing fixtures OK to
> use here?  I wasn't sure if the fuel would dissolve

David,
The white teflon tape will dissolve almost instantly
(easy to test!). I'm told the yellow stuff is OK, but
I used to use stuff that's in the chemical goop
section of the auto parts store that's listed as being
fuel safe. Peter C. gave this stuff called "Gasoila"
that I use now without issue. Frank had a bathroom
sealant that worked as well, I forget what it was. 
Ron

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Jun  7 15:45:29 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:45:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly
In-Reply-To: <484AE2B7.30205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001401c8c8e7$ce32dea0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Thanks, Frank, and others who've responded.  I guess I need to clarify
that it is not the splash panels I'm concerned with.  It's the pieces
right behind the grill, on either side & everything that would be
forward of the radiator, yet on the inside of the valence assembly.
Since the car is going to remain in it's original color (Glacier White),
it'll show if it's incorrect.
The good/bad news is that because it's so damn hot & humid, my son
(who's taken over my former sand-blasting chores ;)) wasn't able to get
much done with cleaning it up.  So, while the rest of the car becomes
white, again, tomorrow; the valence will have to wait a bit longer to
get finished.
Now, as far as the splash panels go, I'm pretty sure that......aw shit.
Can't remember those, for sure, either.  But I think I agree with Frank:
they should be body color.
Thanks.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 2:34 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] need help on color for front valence assembly

When I asked this about the 67, I had a couple of conflicting answers 
but the majority said those splash panels were body color.
Right or wrong, they look good in color but black would have been
easier.
Try to paint those things hanging on a wire as the spray gun pressure 
blows them in a circle.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 16:45:48 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:45:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line question
In-Reply-To: <888811.93246.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <888811.93246.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <484B0F9C.7050606@comcast.net>

David Booker wrote:
>   Spridgeteers - I'm in process of mounting a new Mr. Gasket fuel pump and pressure regulator and have a question for the list...
>    
>   This adjustable regulator has three different sizes of fittings (for use with different fuel line diameters) that screw into the regulator on either side.  
They are pipe thread, tapered, no sealant is needed. And I bet they are 
plastic too, for sure, no sealant.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Jun  7 17:09:53 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:09:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy
Message-ID: <3C755B64B58C4AC69EA77CD09F5AAD74@midget>

Got my new toy yesterday...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94562
Just in time to yank my temporary engine and trans back out of Idget and put 
the good one back in. Quite happy with the acquisition.
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 17:13:54 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 16:13:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
In-Reply-To: <648019159.20080604183859@pacifier.com>
References: <648019159.20080604183859@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <388432799.20080607161354@pacifier.com>

Hello,

       The weekend is upon us. Most of us in the Pacific Northwest are
       THANKFUL for global warming.. otherwise it might be FREEZING
       out here.. today's high is less than 60 degrees, and yesterday
       Vancouver BC set an all time record for the lowest high
       temperature for the date. At least there's NO chance for
       sunburn as there are only a few slivers of BLUE sky to be
       found... man, am i looking forward to heading EAST for LoTO...

       All that said, i did have a chance to warm up the engine and
       adjust the valves with feeler gauges instead of the
       Click-Adjust... hmmmm .. looking for .018 HOT.. had everything
       from .015 to .O21. So much for consistency with the fancy
       tool..... so now they're all set to the same thing... next,
       I'll find out what this setting is COLD so i don't have to warm
       up the engine first to set the valves..

       and i may have to set the carbs.. the idle seems higher now
       than before.... .. hmmmmmmmmmm?  !

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.

From conan at intrex.net  Sat Jun  7 17:53:39 2008
From: conan at intrex.net (conan)
Date: Sat,  7 Jun 2008 19:53:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Beer
Message-ID: <200806071953.AA508494098@intrex.net>

per Weslake1330...
>>I'd love to shoot cats but I don't have any guns.
>>
>>Cap'n Bob 

  Oooooooohh.. Phred's gonna get ya fer that one!
 Ed in NC :-)

--
  "It followed me home, Mother.  Can I eat it?" - Ririt
--

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sat Jun  7 18:06:55 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:06:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy
In-Reply-To: <3C755B64B58C4AC69EA77CD09F5AAD74@midget>
References: <3C755B64B58C4AC69EA77CD09F5AAD74@midget>
Message-ID: <29270E22-6C9D-4E32-9334-75B3BA47609E@mac.com>

David,

Are you sure it's strong enough?

LOL

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor)
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 7, 2008, at 4:09 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> Got my new toy yesterday...
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94562
> Just in time to yank my temporary engine and trans back out of  
> Idget and put
> the good one back in. Quite happy with the acquisition.
> David Lieb
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 18:30:01 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:30:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
Message-ID: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I bought a click-adjust.  Wasn't impressed at all.  It is in my tool box and whenever I adjust the valves I go with the old feeler guage too.  Don't waste your money.

--David C.
'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Hello,
> 
>        The weekend is upon us. Most of us in the Pacific Northwest are
>        THANKFUL for global warming.. otherwise it might be FREEZING
>        out here.. today's high is less than 60 degrees, and yesterday
>        Vancouver BC set an all time record for the lowest high
>        temperature for the date. At least there's NO chance for
>        sunburn as there are only a few slivers of BLUE sky to be
>        found... man, am i looking forward to heading EAST for LoTO...
> 
>        All that said, i did have a chance to warm up the engine and
>        adjust the valves with feeler gauges instead of the
>        Click-Adjust... hmmmm .. looking for .018 HOT.. had everything
>        from .015 to .O21. So much for consistency with the fancy
>        tool..... so now they're all set to the same thing... next,
>        I'll find out what this setting is COLD so i don't have to warm
>        up the engine first to set the valves..
> 
>        and i may have to set the carbs.. the idle seems higher now
>        than before.... .. hmmmmmmmmmm?  !
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>       * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 19:38:34 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:38:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
	<484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
>
>>> and things like the smoke  gauge.
>>>       
> Smoke gauge ???  !!
> Tell me more ......
>
>   
See it at Lake of the Ozarks.
It is a gauge, 1 of 3 in the world, that lets you check to see if you 
still have smoke in your wire harness.
You know what happens when all the smoke comes out of your harness?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun  7 19:51:32 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:51:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
In-Reply-To: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>

I like it when somebody else buys a tool and finds out that it doesn't work!!
I was thinking of getting a click-adjust until I got these emails...
Thank you for saving me $$$$   &^)

On 8 Jun 2008 at 0:30, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote:
>> I bought a click-adjust.  Wasn't impressed at all.  It is in my tool
>> box and whenever I adjust the valves I go with the old feeler guage
>> too.  Don't waste your money.

>> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
>> >        All that said, i did have a chance to warm up the engine and
>> >        adjust the valves with feeler gauges instead of the
>> >        Click-Adjust... hmmmm .. looking for .018 HOT.. had
>> >        everything from .015 to .O21. So much for consistency with
>> >        the fancy tool....


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun  7 20:01:21 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:01:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com><484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com>
	<484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001a01c8c90b$8c715540$6401a8c0@personal>

Oh boy, always wanted to see one of those three. Understand they were state 
of the art at the time.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: <dmg at bossig.com>
Cc: <RampantNM at aol.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets


> Dave G. wrote:
>>
>>>> and things like the smoke  gauge.
>>>>
>> Smoke gauge ???  !!
>> Tell me more ......
>>
>>
> See it at Lake of the Ozarks.
> It is a gauge, 1 of 3 in the world, that lets you check to see if you
> still have smoke in your wire harness.
> You know what happens when all the smoke comes out of your harness?
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun  7 20:02:06 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:02:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002b01c8c90b$a7082050$6401a8c0@personal>

Roger that.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dlancer7676 at comcast.net>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..


>I bought a click-adjust.  Wasn't impressed at all.  It is in my tool box 
>and whenever I adjust the valves I go with the old feeler guage too.  Don't 
>waste your money.
>
> --David C.
> 'Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain.'
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
>> Hello,
>>
>>        The weekend is upon us. Most of us in the Pacific Northwest are
>>        THANKFUL for global warming.. otherwise it might be FREEZING
>>        out here.. today's high is less than 60 degrees, and yesterday
>>        Vancouver BC set an all time record for the lowest high
>>        temperature for the date. At least there's NO chance for
>>        sunburn as there are only a few slivers of BLUE sky to be
>>        found... man, am i looking forward to heading EAST for LoTO...
>>
>>        All that said, i did have a chance to warm up the engine and
>>        adjust the valves with feeler gauges instead of the
>>        Click-Adjust... hmmmm .. looking for .018 HOT.. had everything
>>        from .015 to .O21. So much for consistency with the fancy
>>        tool..... so now they're all set to the same thing... next,
>>        I'll find out what this setting is COLD so i don't have to warm
>>        up the engine first to set the valves..
>>
>>        and i may have to set the carbs.. the idle seems higher now
>>        than before.... .. hmmmmmmmmmm?  !
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>>       * "I've joined the navy," Tom said fleetingly.
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From smarc at smarc.net  Sat Jun  7 20:30:05 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:30:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
Message-ID: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>

Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine 
stand???  What do you all use? I looked high & low for 5/16" x 3 1/2" 24 
TPI hex head cap screws, but couldn't find any! I guess monday I can 
stop in at maryland metrics (mdmetric.com)... or maybe graingers...

-- 

Marc

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 20:40:08 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:40:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
	<484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com> <484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <415882290.20080607194008@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     its kinda like when a light bulb quits collecting dark.....

     that's the other way of looking at "light" bulbs.. they don't
     provide light for a room, the suck the darkness out.. and when
     they're full of dark, the quit working.. you can SEE the
     collected darkess at the ends of "burned out" flourescent tubes
     AND incandescent bulbs...

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I hate Chablis," Tom whined. (*2)

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 20:49:08 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:49:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
References: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <335385889.20080607194908@pacifier.com>

Hello Marc,

     try the local feed and farm store!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  I still miss my wife - but my aim is improving! 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 20:48:20 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:48:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
In-Reply-To: <484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
	<484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <118251244.20080607194820@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     i have to say ... that WITHOUT the click-adjust, i would never
     be at this learning point. This car is the first time in my life
     that i have had the opportunity to learn auto-mechanics.. (not
     addressing the fact that i chose other things to spend my time on
     instead... and anyone who says they always wanted to do X in "the
     worst way but never had the opportunity are lying to themselves,
     because they WOULD HAVE DONE IT if they wanted it THAT badly..
     but i digress)...

     if i hadn't ever bought one, i would never have been BRAVE enough
     to take off the valve cover let alone tackle the adjustment
     job/chore...... AND i would still be using it IF i hadn't found
     out that my math, tho technically correct, was still faulty
     because of my assumptions about Threads Per Inch, and forgetting
     about Rocker Ratio... .. If the recommendation for lash had been
     stock .012 Cold, for my engine, i would never have questioned its
     effectiveness at all.......still trying to figure out how to get
     it calibrated, so i can go BACK to using it!... until that time,
     tho, the tried and true method serves......


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I'd like to be a Chinese laborer," said Tom coolly.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun  7 20:49:38 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:49:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
References: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <001401c8c912$4c286850$a91ff304@spider>

Google this, and pick about.  5/16-24 x "3 1/2"

 

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(j0nwokrlacq2maisybxk32mv)/productdetails.a
spx?sku=5304902

 

============================================================================
=

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Marc
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 7:30 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands

 

Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine 

stand???  What do you all use? I looked high & low for 5/16" x 3 1/2" 24 

TPI hex head cap screws, but couldn't find any! I guess monday I can 

stop in at maryland metrics (mdmetric.com)... or maybe graingers...

 

-- 

 

Marc

_______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jun  7 22:02:16 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:02:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>
	<118251244.20080607194820@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <003201c8c91c$70aaad00$6601a8c0@shop>

<<so i can go BACK to using it!... until that time,
     tho, the tried and true method serves......>>

WHY Bill, when K.I.S.S. Rule ALWAYS works<G>!!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 21:05:45 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:05:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <415882290.20080607194008@pacifier.com>
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
	<484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com> <484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>
	<415882290.20080607194008@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806072005w2e111334k6842ea00a2ca60f9@mail.gmail.com>

So tell me, Bill.  What happens if you drop one that's full of darkness and
it breaks??  It lets all the darkness out, right?  ;-)

CHeers!
Jim

On 6/7/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Frank,
>
>      its kinda like when a light bulb quits collecting dark.....
>
>      that's the other way of looking at "light" bulbs.. they don't
>      provide light for a room, the suck the darkness out.. and when
>      they're full of dark, the quit working.. you can SEE the
>      collected darkess at the ends of "burned out" flourescent tubes
>      AND incandescent bulbs...
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>   Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>       * "I hate Chablis," Tom whined. (*2)
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 21:09:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:09:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
References: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <484B4D68.7060502@comcast.net>

Marc wrote:
> Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine 
> stand???  

I just put it on the work bench, roll it over when I have to, it's not 
that heavy.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun  7 21:12:31 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:12:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
References: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net> <484B4D68.7060502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c8c915$7d3e9a10$6401a8c0@personal>

Heh, I do the same thing on the floor with a peice of cardboard.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine stands


> Marc wrote:
>> Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine
>> stand???
>
> I just put it on the work bench, roll it over when I have to, it's not
> that heavy.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun  7 21:12:50 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:12:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <002c01c8c91c$33b61f60$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <484B442D.8050809@smarc.net>
	<001401c8c912$4c286850$a91ff304@spider>
	<002c01c8c91c$33b61f60$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <002201c8c915$8a0811e0$a91ff304@spider>

I was unable to shorten the url any.

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(j0nwokrlacq2maisybxk32mv)/productdetails.a
spx?sku=5304902

 

Failing that, please google

5/16-24 x "3 1/2"



  _____  

From: Ed's Shop [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:01 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine stands

 

A USABLE link would be nice necause your's (below) gives "Page could not be
displayed"!!

 

 

 

<<Google this, and pick about.  
============================================================>>

And why google it??  Use  <http://www.tinyurl.com> www.tinyurl.com so you
CAN offer GOOD information!!

 

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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  7 21:16:33 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:16:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
In-Reply-To: <003201c8c91c$70aaad00$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>
	<118251244.20080607194820@pacifier.com>
	<003201c8c91c$70aaad00$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <484282734.20080607201633@pacifier.com>

Hello Ed's,

        becasue the clicky thingy IS simple... ONE tool instead of
        THREE ... .. four easy motions

        turn the locknut loose, turn the adjusted down, turn the
        adjuster up, and tighten the locknut...instead of..

        get wrench.. loosen nut, insert feeler gauge, get screwdriver,
        turn adjuster, FEEL for sliding fit, oops too tight, loosen
        up.. hold steady now, put wrench back on, tighten locknut,
        oops, check with feeler again, oops, screw turned.. do THAT
        all over again... .. ok.. got it...

        when the clicky thingy works (the math correct) its about 3
        times faster .... at least for ME!..

        YMMV!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I'm sailing near the Isle of Wight," said Tom insolently.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 21:18:37 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:18:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
Message-ID: <060820080318.12883.484B4F8D000390CD0000325322155688849B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

try home depot. the bolts are on the bottom shelf green box.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net> 

> Heh, I do the same thing on the floor with a peice of cardboard. 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Clarici" 
> To: "Marc" 
> Cc: "Spridgets" 
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:09 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine stands 
> 
> 
> > Marc wrote: 
> >> Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine 
> >> stand??? 
> > 
> > I just put it on the work bench, roll it over when I have to, it's not 
> > that heavy. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Frank Clarici 
> > Toms River, NJ 
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> 
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From smarc at smarc.net  Sat Jun  7 21:23:12 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:23:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets
In-Reply-To: <415882290.20080607194008@pacifier.com>
References: <cf8.34c0f52e.357c30ce@aol.com>
	<484A7900.25892.11B70CA@dmg.bossig.com> <484B381A.3030909@comcast.net>
	<415882290.20080607194008@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <484B50A0.80903@smarc.net>

Aha! You mean a darksucker??? See 
http://home.netcom.com/~rogermw/darksucker.html

Marc



Bill L wrote:
> Hello Frank,
>
>      its kinda like when a light bulb quits collecting dark.....
>
>      that's the other way of looking at "light" bulbs.. they don't
>      provide light for a room, the suck the darkness out.. and when
>      they're full of dark, the quit working.. you can SEE the
>      collected darkess at the ends of "burned out" flourescent tubes
>      AND incandescent bulbs...

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun  7 22:11:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:11:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
In-Reply-To: <118251244.20080607194820@pacifier.com>
References: <060820080030.3910.484B2809000D41A100000F462214756402C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>,
	<484AD8B4.5812.291455A@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<118251244.20080607194820@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <484AF979.318.3114962@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Bill,

Well done... nothing beats hands-on and dirty. And you'llknow what to do the next it needs 
a bit of 'fixing!" --- and there *will* be a next time ;-))

In the late '40's and early '50s my dad was a lorry driver in the UK (trucker) and in those 
days the driver was expected to maintain his rig... which was lucky for me  <grin> because  
my school-free days were spent helping him, so I learnt how to do things with the tools of 
the day..

My first car was a beat-up 1934 Wolseley Hornet - I bought it in 1953 for 50 Pounds 
Sterling, and when I asked my Dad for help he said "You bought it - you better learn how to 
fix it!"
I think I said quite a few nasty words under my breath, but it's paid off for me many times 
since.

Keep digging, keep trying, keep learning...
The destination is worth the journey <GRIN>


On 7 Jun 2008 at 19:48, Bill L wrote:
>> This car is the first time in my life
>>  that i have had the opportunity to learn auto-mechanics.. 
........
>>  if i hadn't ever bought one, i would never have been BRAVE enough
>>  to take off the valve cover let alone tackle the adjustment
>>  job/chore......


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From davriker at nwi.net  Sat Jun  7 22:53:41 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:53:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
References: <648019159.20080604183859@pacifier.com>
	<388432799.20080607161354@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <013501c8c92a$c7b9c870$6600a8c0@dave>

The different metal parts expand and contract at different rates.  Since you 
opperate the engine hot, that is where the clearances need to be the most 
accurate.  Try this test:  Adjust all the valve lashes when cold to the same 
spec, heat the engine up, and recheck.  They will all be different.  That is 
why they are adjusted when hot.
David R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..

>
>       All that said, i did have a chance to warm up the engine and
>       adjust the valves with feeler gauges instead of the
>       Click-Adjust... hmmmm .. looking for .018 HOT.. had everything
>       from .015 to .O21. So much for consistency with the fancy
>       tool..... so now they're all set to the same thing... next,
>       I'll find out what this setting is COLD so i don't have to warm
>       up the engine first to set the valves..
>
>       and i may have to set the carbs.. the idle seems higher now
>       than before.... .. hmmmmmmmmmm?  !

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun  8 06:53:09 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 07:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Click-adjust..
References: <648019159.20080604183859@pacifier.com><388432799.20080607161354@pacifier.com>
	<013501c8c92a$c7b9c870$6600a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <9E9BE8D9459E4181977E221561AC9E32@midget>

> The different metal parts expand and contract at different rates.  Since 
> you
> opperate the engine hot, that is where the clearances need to be the most
> accurate.  Try this test:  Adjust all the valve lashes when cold to the 
> same
> spec, heat the engine up, and recheck.  They will all be different.  That 
> is
> why they are adjusted when hot.

OTOH, it is also nice to have the cold specs, cuz ye shouldna start that 
engine the first time without having them somewhere close to right.
David L 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun  8 08:22:05 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:22:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [9issa] Not a Joke : Free Midget body
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP11FCA43742363E0F848D5CB8B10@CEZ.ICE>

FYI

-----Original Message-----
From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On
Behalf Of Randall
Sent: June 8, 2008 10:17 AM
To: Assn
Subject: [9issa] Not a Joke : Free Midget body

Spotted on Craigslist :
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/zip/710843514.html

From smarc at smarc.net  Sun Jun  8 08:51:58 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:51:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine color?
Message-ID: <484BF20E.4070001@smarc.net>

I can't see not cleaning up the engine a little as long as it's out, so 
figured I'd degrease it and give it a quick spray, probably with a 
rattle can of something... I seem to recall a post saying that the 
factory color for a 1973 midget engine was black, and another post 
mentioning a brand of rattle can engine paint they'd had good success 
with (krylon?).

This is certainly no concours car, just a decent driver...

Also, would anyone would care to share any engine bay clean up tips?

Here's what I've go to work with:  
http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/enginepull/

-- 

Marc

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  8 09:06:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 08:06:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] engine color?
In-Reply-To: <484BF20E.4070001@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <771095.87426.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
> Also, would anyone would care to share any engine
> bay clean up tips?

Marc,
Wirebrush the engine with a brush on a drill. It's
addictive because it's so effective, and you end up
with a perfect painting surface in no time. In the
engine bay if you're not going to paint it, I use
large disposable shop wipes labeled as good for
degreasing and safe for hands. I mean the handi-wipe
kind. It doesn't take many of those, either. 
Ron

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 09:50:57 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 10:50:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <060820080318.12883.484B4F8D000390CD0000325322155688849B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <060820080318.12883.484B4F8D000390CD0000325322155688849B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3C3914FD-7679-43AC-A607-0E24E00F694D@comcast.net>

Or your local NAPA store..

Lester

On Jun 7, 2008, at 10:18 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> try home depot. the bolts are on the bottom shelf green box.
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
>
>> Heh, I do the same thing on the floor with a peice of cardboard.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Frank Clarici"
>> To: "Marc"
>> Cc: "Spridgets"
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 10:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine stands
>>
>>
>>> Marc wrote:
>>>> Where the heck can I find bolts to mount the 1275 to the engine
>>>> stand???
>>>
>>> I just put it on the work bench, roll it over when I have to, it's  
>>> not
>>> that heavy.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Frank Clarici
>>> Toms River, NJ
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>
>>> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net
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From smarc at smarc.net  Sun Jun  8 10:22:28 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:22:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine stands
In-Reply-To: <3C3914FD-7679-43AC-A607-0E24E00F694D@comcast.net>
References: <060820080318.12883.484B4F8D000390CD0000325322155688849B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<3C3914FD-7679-43AC-A607-0E24E00F694D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484C0744.7060906@smarc.net>

Wow! I found an Ace store 5 minutes away that I never knew existed! It's 
in the basement of another store! They only had them in 3" or 4", so I 
got the 4's and a box of washers..

Marc

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  8 10:57:07 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 09:57:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Restoration Books
Message-ID: <E1K5OCT-0003h0-Ga@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

nickzarkades wrote:  Are there any books on restorations of Bugeyes or
other books that would help in the restoration process. I would like to get
familiar before starting the project.



In addition to those books most recommended by others, might I be so bold as
to suggest, SU Carb Manual & Needle Chart - USA & World Only.   It is
published by the manufacturer of  SU carbs and their parts, Burlen Fuel
Systems (burlen.co.uk/partDetail.aspx?partID=52810).   The price is #26.43
(plus postage--no tax).



Buster

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 12:05:38 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:05:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets*
Message-ID: <060820081805.27682.484C1F72000ECE5D00006C222216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hmmm--makes my head hurt to think about it.   8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Hello Frank,
> 
>      its kinda like when a light bulb quits collecting dark.....
> 
>      that's the other way of looking at "light" bulbs.. they don't
>      provide light for a room, the suck the darkness out.. and when
>      they're full of dark, the quit working.. you can SEE the
>      collected darkess at the ends of "burned out" flourescent tubes
>      AND incandescent bulbs...
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>       * "I hate Chablis," Tom whined. (*2)
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  8 12:28:50 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 11:28:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets*
In-Reply-To: <060820081805.27682.484C1F72000ECE5D00006C222216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <060820081805.27682.484C1F72000ECE5D00006C222216538496C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1134955511.20080608112850@pacifier.com>

Hello Dlancer7676,

     some asked about breaking the lamps and having the darkness
     escape... that's that litte puff of smoke you sometimes see when
     you break a flourescent tube.or incandescent lamp. there isn't much, but then again
     it's a hard to weigh darkness, even if darkness weighs heavilly  on ones
     mind........

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  I believe OS/2...to be the most important OS...of all time" - Gates '87 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 12:42:40 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:42:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets*
Message-ID: <060820081842.11369.484C2820000A84EB00002C692212059214C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

And that (darkness) is what Lucas captures and puts inside all it's wiring and fixtures?  

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Hello Dlancer7676,
> 
>      some asked about breaking the lamps and having the darkness
>      escape... that's that litte puff of smoke you sometimes see when
>      you break a flourescent tube.or incandescent lamp. there isn't much, but 
> then again
>      it's a hard to weigh darkness, even if darkness weighs heavilly  on ones
>      mind........
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>   I believe OS/2...to be the most important OS...of all time" - Gates '87 

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun  8 13:29:03 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:29:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Tap on HIF44 Carb
Message-ID: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

I have my 1275 running great at the moment with one little problem that is
driving me nuts, if you'll pardon the pun.  The vacuum tap fitting on the
HIF44 carb is only a friction fit into small hole in the carb body behind
the piston chamber.  I have a plastic vacuum line connected with push-on
rubber end fittings that works fine except the little metal nipple fitting
on the carb keeps falling out.  At first it stayed in O.K., after a while
it would come out of the hole and I would have to push it back in.  Now
the thing is no longer tight in the hole and will not stay in.  Any ideas
on how to make it stay put?  Epoxy? J&B Weld?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 13:41:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:41:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Tap on HIF44 Carb
In-Reply-To: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <3EBE3D48-891F-4CF6-84CB-A94543D69CD3@comcast.net>

If it's brass, get a sharp punch and make little dimples around it's  
circumference, then press it in.. should work well.  Oh yeah, don't  
hit it so hard that it is no longer round.. ;-)

Lester

On Jun 8, 2008, at 2:29 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

> I have my 1275 running great at the moment with one little problem  
> that is
> driving me nuts, if you'll pardon the pun.  The vacuum tap fitting  
> on the
> HIF44 carb is only a friction fit into small hole in the carb body  
> behind
> the piston chamber.  I have a plastic vacuum line connected with  
> push-on
> rubber end fittings that works fine except the little metal nipple  
> fitting
> on the carb keeps falling out.  At first it stayed in O.K., after a  
> while
> it would come out of the hole and I would have to push it back in.   
> Now
> the thing is no longer tight in the hole and will not stay in.  Any  
> ideas
> on how to make it stay put?  Epoxy? J&B Weld?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> ________

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun  8 13:47:41 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 12:47:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Tap on HIF44 Carb
In-Reply-To: <3EBE3D48-891F-4CF6-84CB-A94543D69CD3@comcast.net>
References: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<3EBE3D48-891F-4CF6-84CB-A94543D69CD3@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1f0cea4acd9a6f074a38ecfa.20080608124741.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

I think it is steel.  It's white metal.
Mike


Lester
> If it's brass, get a sharp punch and make little dimples around it's
> circumference, then press it in.. should work well.  Oh yeah, don't
> hit it so hard that it is no longer round.. ;-)
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 8, 2008, at 2:29 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>
>> I have my 1275 running great at the moment with one little problem
>> that is
>> driving me nuts, if you'll pardon the pun.  The vacuum tap fitting
>> on the
>> HIF44 carb is only a friction fit into small hole in the carb body
>> behind
>> the piston chamber.  I have a plastic vacuum line connected with
>> push-on
>> rubber end fittings that works fine except the little metal nipple
>> fitting
>> on the carb keeps falling out.  At first it stayed in O.K., after a
>> while
>> it would come out of the hole and I would have to push it back in.
>> Now
>> the thing is no longer tight in the hole and will not stay in.  Any
>> ideas
>> on how to make it stay put?  Epoxy? J&B Weld?
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 13:50:32 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 14:50:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Tap on HIF44 Carb
In-Reply-To: <1f0cea4acd9a6f074a38ecfa.20080608124741.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<3EBE3D48-891F-4CF6-84CB-A94543D69CD3@comcast.net>
	<1f0cea4acd9a6f074a38ecfa.20080608124741.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <733B7A02-EB5C-40F3-830E-61CF0FE7B26F@comcast.net>

hmm.. ok, use the punch gently inside the hole.. or just use the J&B..

Lester


On Jun 8, 2008, at 2:47 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

> I think it is steel.  It's white metal.
> Mike
>
>
> Lester
>> If it's brass, get a sharp punch and make little dimples around it's
>> circumference, then press it in.. should work well.  Oh yeah, don't
>> hit it so hard that it is no longer round.. ;-)
>>
>> Lester

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  8 18:20:23 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LoTO Contact Numbers
Message-ID: <110682775.20080608172023@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,


     This is a general plea to anyone attending or willing to offer
     assistance to those travelling to the Lake of the Ozarks....

     at the official websight

  http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/


  is a link .. ROAD SAFETY CONTACTS... ..

  send 'em an email... get posted so we can be found/find YOU!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
      * "There's no need for silence," Tom allowed.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 19:15:07 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:15:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners
Message-ID: <001501c8c9ce$416eb740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

I was pulling the parts off my bonnet in preperation for paint today.
Those little sheet metal nuts holding the front grill on were a pain to
remove.
In some cases they were not doing such a great job anyway.

Has anyone come up with an alternative?

I thought I would make up something like this.  Little cylinders with a hole
down the center and a set screw coming in from the side.
Sort of like little drill stops.

Do the same for the rear arrow too..

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Jun  8 20:17:32 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:17:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners
References: <001501c8c9ce$416eb740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <001101c8c9d6$fa985250$6401a8c0@personal>

Yes of course. Get some plastic tubeing from the hardware. Use dikes and cut 
it in half inch lengths and push over the pins on the grill.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners


>I was pulling the parts off my bonnet in preperation for paint today.
> Those little sheet metal nuts holding the front grill on were a pain to
> remove.
> In some cases they were not doing such a great job anyway.
>
> Has anyone come up with an alternative?
>
> I thought I would make up something like this.  Little cylinders with a 
> hole
> down the center and a set screw coming in from the side.
> Sort of like little drill stops.
>
> Do the same for the rear arrow too..
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From smarc at smarc.net  Sun Jun  8 20:22:26 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:22:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] gasket sealer?
Message-ID: <484C93E2.1090207@smarc.net>

I am almost finished cleaning up the old oil pan and timing cover 
gaskets so I can install new ones. The oil pan gasket was totally 
plastered with what appears to be both orange and black types of 
sealant.  It's been no fun cleaning it up.

Is sealant really necessary? On previous projects I usually clean all 
surfaces scrupulously, and then apply hylomar dressing lightly on one 
side only to assist in keeping things in place during assembly. What 
about a small amount of sealant in the corners of the oil pan seals?

-- 

Marc

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun  8 20:40:55 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:40:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WinSU
Message-ID: <307919417.20080608194055@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      i just ran across the program WinSU. Give it the requested data
      on your engine and it gives you the needles to try...it asks
      about everything from overbore, to cylinder head, dizzy mods,
      exhaust manifold, gearbox, final drive, the works...

      anyone else know about/use this program.. available for download
      at

      http://www.winsu.co.uk/


      NFI

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  I.R.S.: We've got what it takes to take what you've got! 

From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 20:45:17 2008
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 02:45:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Spridgets*
Message-ID: <060920080245.7119.484C993D0001813800001BCF2215555884CECACCCC060306@comcast.net>

We know why the British drink warm beer.  Lucas built the refrigerators.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net 

> And that (darkness) is what Lucas captures and puts inside all it's wiring and 
> fixtures? 
> 
> --David C. 
> WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK? 
> 
> 
> -------------- Original message ---------------------- 
> From: Bill L 
> > Hello Dlancer7676, 
> > 
> > some asked about breaking the lamps and having the darkness 
> > escape... that's that litte puff of smoke you sometimes see when 
> > you break a flourescent tube.or incandescent lamp. there isn't much, but 
> > then again 
> > it's a hard to weigh darkness, even if darkness weighs heavilly on ones 
> > mind........ 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Best regards, 
> > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com 
> > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 
> > I believe OS/2...to be the most important OS...of all time" - Gates '87 
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 21:51:23 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 23:51:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners
References: <001501c8c9ce$416eb740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<001101c8c9d6$fa985250$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <002201c8c9e4$165d5140$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

Yea, Biff sugested aquarium tubing.

I don't know,  I am sure that works.  It just does'nt sound much better than 
the sheet metal nuts.
I'll give ti a try and see how it goes.

What I would really like is some clever spring metal thingy that would have 
two squeze tabs on it.
It would not only grab the pin but would keep a constant pull on it.
To release it you just squeeze the tabs.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners


> Yes of course. Get some plastic tubeing from the hardware. Use dikes and 
> cut it in half inch lengths and push over the pins on the grill.

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sun Jun  8 23:46:54 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo adaptor...issues
Message-ID: <768895.94739.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Greetings,

I should probably just email rivergate with this...and i probably will CC
them...  but anyway...

My speedo dosen't work, it did for a while, but i think i may have determined
why.
To start with:

the adaptor works.. (i.e. the internal gears are driving)
the cable isn't broken..
the trans speedo output turns when the car moves

But when i stick it all together (for which you need double jointed hands
whilst the trans is in the car) it works intermittently or not at all.

what i have noticed is that the rivergate adaptor input drive spindle (the one
which engages the datsun box's speedo output drive dog) can move in-out along
its axis about 1/4 inch. Whilst it still transmits through the adaptor in
either the in or out position, I am thinking that whilst it is "out" it is too
deep in the output bit of the trans for the little dog bit to engage, and the
trans bit just spins around it.

Can anyone tell me, is the adaptor's drive spindle supposed to move along its
length as i have described?
Did any other rivergate users have this problem?

As my tacho is shot too, i have bugger-all idea how fast I am going without
any guages working.

cheers

Andy

PS apologies for the vague references and crappy terminology.


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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 03:07:52 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 05:07:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye grill fasteners
In-Reply-To: <001501c8c9ce$416eb740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <001501c8c9ce$416eb740$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <484CF2E8.8090702@comcast.net>

The originals are called Speed Nuts, and are available at some better 
hardware stores or any auto body supply shop.
I believe the originals were 1/8" with a 3/8 head.  New speed nuts work 
fine, it's the old ones that may have rusted where it counts that are a 
problem.
There is also the push on clips like on the Sprite boot badge that work 
but getting them on some of those pins up in the nooks can be a pain.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Mon Jun  9 03:18:37 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 02:18:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets]  rivergate speedo adaptor...issues
In-Reply-To: <768895.94739.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <821278.17512.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

what I forgot to say was... the speedmeter itself works fine...
i disconnected the cable at the speedometer end and watched to see if the
cable turned...

--- On Mon, 9/6/08, Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> From: Andy Webster <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo adaptor...issues
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Cc: rivergate5speed at bellsouth.net
> Received: Monday, 9 June, 2008, 3:46 PM
> Greetings,
>
> I should probably just email rivergate with this...and i
> probably will CC
> them...  but anyway...
>
> My speedo dosen't work, it did for a while, but i think
> i may have determined
> why.
> To start with:
>
> the adaptor works.. (i.e. the internal gears are driving)
> the cable isn't broken..
> the trans speedo output turns when the car moves
>
> But when i stick it all together (for which you need double
> jointed hands
> whilst the trans is in the car) it works intermittently or
> not at all.
>
> what i have noticed is that the rivergate adaptor input
> drive spindle (the one
> which engages the datsun box's speedo output drive dog)
> can move in-out along
> its axis about 1/4 inch. Whilst it still transmits through
> the adaptor in
> either the in or out position, I am thinking that whilst it
> is "out" it is too
> deep in the output bit of the trans for the little dog bit
> to engage, and the
> trans bit just spins around it.
>
> Can anyone tell me, is the adaptor's drive spindle
> supposed to move along its
> length as i have described?
> Did any other rivergate users have this problem?
>
> As my tacho is shot too, i have bugger-all idea how fast I
> am going without
> any guages working.
>
> cheers
>
> Andy
>
> PS apologies for the vague references and crappy
> terminology.
>
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 04:27:44 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 06:27:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No eye in Bugeye craigslist of Phoenix
Message-ID: <205cef430806090327v7686a608ifd4275738726c31a@mail.gmail.com>

Check out this craigslist ad for a Bugeye Sprite or should I say Bugeyeless
Sprite. Perhaps this is what Gerry Coker had in mind. Does anyone have
Gerry's email address?
http://phoenix.en.craigslist.org/car/696404048.html
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 06:57:06 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:57:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo adaptor...issues
In-Reply-To: <821278.17512.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <768895.94739.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<821278.17512.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806090557q20b9a83aq9b389ef43e582a7@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, contact Rivergate.  They are a top notch outfit and they make
good stuff.  They will help you.
As an alternative, lister Paul A also makes 5-speed conversions.  I
prefer Paul's conversion but not for any good reason, I just like Paul
and he is a list member.
Paul's speedo setup is a little different, IIRC and may be better for
you.  Again, there is nothing wrong with Rivergate.
It is nice to have two really good vendors for something.  It kinda
offsets the fact that most vendors are mediocre, at best.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 06:59:05 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:59:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No eye in Bugeye craigslist of Phoenix
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806090327v7686a608ifd4275738726c31a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430806090327v7686a608ifd4275738726c31a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806090559n45cf8849i2f78134a9076dbe6@mail.gmail.com>

Are you using those CL search tips I gave you a while back?

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Jun  9 10:22:52 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:22:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PA Beer
In-Reply-To: <c37.309dc96c.35799bb7@aol.com>
References: <c37.309dc96c.35799bb7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218A7@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I hope a couple of those cases are their excellent Chesterfield Ale!

-----Original Message-----
From: RampantNM at aol.com [mailto:RampantNM at aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 3:43 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] PA Beer

In a message dated 6/4/2008 3:23:59 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Just  recently our locals have begun carrying Yeungling, both on tap and
in
containers.  It is a huge step above the Bud conundrum and I have been
ordering it.


I understand a bar 40 miles down the road has Yeungling on tap now.  I
usually bring back 10-12 cases when I visit the mother in law in PA, but
I  haven't
been in over a year and we are currently out of good beer.

Robert Houston




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From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Jun  9 10:33:38 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:33:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
Message-ID: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/705728580.html

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun  8 15:38:25 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:38:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum Tap on HIF44 Carb
References: <166ea3609a5034a291fa.20080608122903.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><3EBE3D48-891F-4CF6-84CB-A94543D69CD3@comcast.net><1f0cea4acd9a6f074a38ecfa.20080608124741.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<733B7A02-EB5C-40F3-830E-61CF0FE7B26F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009401c8ca59$0c1fcd50$6601a8c0@shop>

<<hmm.. ok, use the punch gently inside the hole.. or just use the J&B..>>

I agree with Lester, Mike.  Tiny tapered punch GENTLY!!!  Or if you have a REAL parts store, replace it??  Maybe ask their Machinest??

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Jun  9 11:05:11 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:05:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Farms Races
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218AB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I could use a "wrench" this weekend at Blackhawk to keep the #49 Works
Midget on the track.

Let me know if you might want to crew.  I'll be arriving Thursday night,
I hope.  Planning to camp at the track.

Email me at work (where I see my email :-)) or call my cell
(734-395-7414).



-John Deikis

Racing in the past lane

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun  9 11:27:48 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:27:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <11012084.1213032468511.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hey you Spridgeteers,

Does anyone know who or is the owner of the iris blue '63 Sprite with very rare Healey hardtop that raced at VIR last weekend?  The hardtop was really neat and the Sprite was excellent.  I beautiful car with the right period size tires.

Mike C

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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Mon Jun  9 11:52:30 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:52:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Driver Magazine
Message-ID: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>

Are any members familiar with MGB Driver magazine? Do they normally 
include Spridgets in their magazine? I was in Hellertown PA for the 
British Car Gathering yesterday, and a photographer  took several photos 
of my 74 Midget for an upcoming issue. 
John
Fogelsville, PA

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 12:30:49 2008
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:30:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Driver Magazine
In-Reply-To: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>
References: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <038C212D-C91B-405F-AEED-B7F086D5B7BB@comcast.net>

John,
	Yes they do.  My Midget has been in the magazine a couple of times.  
Just don't be surprised if it takes a couple of issues before you show  
up in the magazine.  If you are not a member of NAMBGR (I think that  
is the correct initials) I will keep a look out for your picture.

Kristi
(The orange 74 Midget next to you at the show)

On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:52 PM, John Caffrey wrote:

> Are any members familiar with MGB Driver magazine? Do they normally
> include Spridgets in their magazine? I was in Hellertown PA for the
> British Car Gathering yesterday, and a photographer  took several  
> photos
> of my 74 Midget for an upcoming issue.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Mon Jun  9 12:35:19 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:35:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Driver Magazine
In-Reply-To: <038C212D-C91B-405F-AEED-B7F086D5B7BB@comcast.net>
References: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>
	<038C212D-C91B-405F-AEED-B7F086D5B7BB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484D77E7.50309@lehigh.edu>

Thank You Kristi. I enjoyed talking with you and Lambert yesterday, and 
meeting your lovely little girl.
John

Kristi & Lambert wrote:
> John,
> 	Yes they do.  My Midget has been in the magazine a couple of times.  
> Just don't be surprised if it takes a couple of issues before you show  
> up in the magazine.  If you are not a member of NAMBGR (I think that  
> is the correct initials) I will keep a look out for your picture.
>
> Kristi
> (The orange 74 Midget next to you at the show)
>
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:52 PM, John Caffrey wrote:
>
>   
>> Are any members familiar with MGB Driver magazine? Do they normally
>> include Spridgets in their magazine? I was in Hellertown PA for the
>> British Car Gathering yesterday, and a photographer  took several  
>> photos
>> of my 74 Midget for an upcoming issue.
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Jun  9 12:49:40 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:49:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
In-Reply-To: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
References: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218AF@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Isn't there a prison in Chico?
Aren't those bars behind the tranny?
There goes the license plate business!

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry & Sandi Miller [mailto:millerls at ado13.com]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:34 PM
To: Spridget; Bugeye
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/705728580.html

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Jun  9 14:37:20 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:37:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
In-Reply-To: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
References: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <E71385DA-1580-4D46-BF17-B68BB7A301A3@mac.com>

Isn't that just a transmission?  I don't see the Rivergate adapter  
plates.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 16:14:23 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:14:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
In-Reply-To: <E71385DA-1580-4D46-BF17-B68BB7A301A3@mac.com>
References: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
	<E71385DA-1580-4D46-BF17-B68BB7A301A3@mac.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806091514x7665b5b6xff7579747203139c@mail.gmail.com>

EXACTLY!!!

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:37 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

> Isn't that just a transmission?  I don't see the Rivergate adapter
> plates.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>
> > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/705728580.html
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jun  9 17:42:34 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 16:42:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
In-Reply-To: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
References: <04ea01c8ca4e$92b2a460$9d947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <1104225443.20080609164234@pacifier.com>

Hello Larry,

     this keeps up and the tranny's will be worth more than the cars
     themselves... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I'm burning aromatic substances," said Tom, incensed.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun  9 18:05:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:05:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] engine pull
References: <484A283A.4090904@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <EE9B7184C69F4454BFFB2B5FEE5A33FE@midget>

> It took roughly 3 hours total - not too bad considering thats the first
> time I have ever pulled an engine. I would say that the engine removal
> list was very helpful - thanks to all of you for helping me flesh that 
> out.

Don't feel bad, Marc. I recently pulled my engine and trans, swapped the 
originals back in to get me through a couple weeks, then swapped the "good" 
ones back in. Each time I spent a leisurely day ripping the engine and trans 
out and slapping the other one in, then another leisurely half day or so 
taking care of all the details to make it functional again. I am not the 
speediest of engine swappers, but I do enjoy it more this way.
David Lieb 

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  9 18:21:43 2008
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Issues With Grose Jet Carb Float Needle Seat (Longish)
Message-ID: <280157.64461.qm@web63511.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I've had an intermittant problem last year and this with engine suddenly running&nbsp;poorly - like no power, pedal to the metal, max. 40 mph.&nbsp;&nbsp;Sometimes it clears up quickly, sometimes not.&nbsp; Sure, I thought it might be stuck float but problem never lasts long enough to be able to check.&nbsp; Also, since I put in Mo$$'s Grose jet which they state is a "superior replacement for original style needle &amp; seat," I figured they should be infallible.&nbsp; So I check dashpot oil, adjust carbs&nbsp;three times, replace stock air filters with K&amp;N style to&nbsp;avoid dirty/stuck carb plungers, set valves twice, new plugs twice, set timing twice, gapped points, new points, condenser, rotor, &amp; cap.&nbsp; All this over the last year &amp; problem came back during an 80 mile run over the weekend &amp; would not go away this time.&nbsp; I thought - are the valves burned?&nbsp; What&nbsp;is going on here?&nbsp;&nbsp;Carb plungers going up
 &amp; down okay. So as engine runs like crap I pull off plug wire #4.&nbsp; I have spark between the connector &amp; the plug but engine quits.&nbsp; Put it back on.&nbsp; Start engine back up &amp; pull off plug wire #1 - got spark but no change in engine&nbsp;rpm.&nbsp; Pulled off wire #2 -&nbsp;got spark but no change in engine rpm.&nbsp; I had spark but&nbsp;was running on only the two rear cylinders!&nbsp;&nbsp;Put wires back on, spray gas in front carb &amp; engine running improves significantly.&nbsp; Front carb is not getting gas!&nbsp; Take cap off float bowl and cannot blow through&nbsp;float valve even though large ball in&nbsp;valve is free.&nbsp; Tear that "superior" float seat assembly apart and there are two steel ball bearings in there -&nbsp;a big one which is visible and is moved by the float lever, and a smaller ball bearing&nbsp;you can't see because it is hidden on top of the large one and&nbsp;seals&nbsp;against the&nbsp;valve seat
 when pushed by the bigger ball.&nbsp; That little SOB is stuck solid against the float seat.&nbsp; Had to knock it out with a nail.&nbsp; Put stock style float and seat assemblies back in and a drive today showed no problems.&nbsp; So, beware of Mo$$ P/N 386-390 Grose jets!&nbsp; (I wish I were a better&nbsp;mechanic!)

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Jun  9 19:14:57 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:14:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How times change
Message-ID: <4BFE1A26-B027-45BF-BD65-8D5A2AAC25FE@mac.com>

My bugeye was in storage for almost 18 months and just a few weeks  
ago got moved to my new house.  Since then I have slowly been getting  
the supplies to do a major service, all new fluids, plugs, speed  
bleeders and such.  Just noticed that the bill for these items totals  
over $100.  This caused a quick flash back to 1958 when I did a  
complete engine rebuild on a AH 100 for just over $40!!!

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun  9 20:02:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross
Message-ID: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>

How Many Ways Can YOU Have Fun In A Spridget???

I enjoy trips in my Spridgets, tours with the car clubs I belong to, and 
gimmick rallies, as well as working on them, even with the occasional 
frustration, but one of my favorite activities is autocross. Autocrossing 
your Spridget will help you appreciate the nimbleness and agility of your 
car, as well as letting you play with your car's limits of traction and 
power.

Because I enjoy autocrossing, I am helping to present the autocross event at 
the Fifty Years of Spridgets Celebration. Whether you have never heard of 
autocrossing or whether you have a row of SCCA trophies on your mantel, I 
would like to invite you and your Spridget to come join us from noon to 4 on 
Friday, June 27 at the Pa He Tsi parking lot.

In order to defray the expenses incurred, there is a charge of $5 per entry; 
this represents the best motorsports value you will ever see!

We are planning to setup the course in the morning, so you should be able to 
walk the course by our noon starting time. The mandatory driver's meeting 
will be at 12:15 and we will be starting our runs as soon as the safety 
meeting is over.

The number of runs we will get will depend on how many people show up and 
how efficiently we can run people through. Our timing equipment, on loan 
from the Windy City Miata Club, can handle multiple cars on course, we will 
have radios for communications, and with your help we should have a great 
event.

Yes, it takes a lot of warm bodies to put on a good autocross. If you would 
like to drive the course, we would like you to also be willing to work the 
course. It isn't hard, but cones need to be reset and called in to the 
control tent (as Barney Gaylord has been heard to say, "If you don't hit any 
cones, you aren't trying hard enough!"), cars need to be lined up and 
started safely, the timing equipment needs someone to operate it and we all 
want our turn to drive.

Spridgets were not all created equal and many of them have evolved in 
interesting ways, so we have four classes:
1. Under 1200cc
2. Over 1200cc
3. Prepared (R-compound tires, forced induction, car setup for autocross)
4. Modified (non-Spridget engines, non-street legal, V8, etc)

Safety is always a priority at these events, so please be aware of a few 
issues.

1. Battery needs to be fastened down
2. Throttle return spring should be good
3. Should have a firm brake pedal, has enough brake fluid
4. All of the lug nuts present and tight
5. Not too much play in the front end
6. Got to have some seat belts
7. Loose stuff needs to be removed from car
8. Helmets are required

There will be a sign-up sheet at the registration table along with the 
traditional liability waiver and the glorious opportunity to hand over $5 of 
your hard-earned cash. Come on out and let your Spridget have some fun!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun  9 20:09:36 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:09:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>

> hmm.. does a Judson Blower *REALLY* count as forced induction??

GOOD question. I don't know that I would have the guts to imply that it 
wouldn't after all of the money that you have thrown at it to make it work 
;-) 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 20:31:29 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:31:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Issues With Grose Jet Carb Float Needle Seat
 (Longish)
In-Reply-To: <280157.64461.qm@web63511.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <280157.64461.qm@web63511.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <484DE781.9080308@comcast.net>

I tried those hunks of junk 20 years ago and they didn't work then.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun  9 21:37:13 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:37:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Senate Votes To Privatize Its Failing Restaurants
References: <20080609.183921.3304.2.dwflagg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <018f01c8caab$462a6120$6601a8c0@shop>

VERY interesting read !!!    <VBF>

http://tinyurl.com/4w3t5r
or
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801765.html

Somebody post to PolySci please.
Ed

From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Jun  9 20:37:19 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:37:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wow
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218AF@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <001801c8caa2$e81349b0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ>

Isn't there a prison in Chico? I think that's Chino, down south.

 

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pts/705728580.html

 

He's also listing it on ebay with a $1K BIN!!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/59lpox

 

 

Herby

63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)

62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)

00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)

herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com

 

 

_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 20:41:52 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:41:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
Message-ID: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>

Here is one for the record books.
Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15 mile run, they stop 
sparking!
Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
OK, if they were black, I could understand that the carbs were way too 
rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine, if not new looking.
Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
WTF?
This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I ever have this 
problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
Any ideas?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 20:40:48 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:40:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross
In-Reply-To: <905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
Message-ID: <41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>

I Sir, have those guts!

.. and what about 5 speeds?

Lester


On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:09 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> hmm.. does a Judson Blower *REALLY* count as forced induction??
>
> GOOD question. I don't know that I would have the guts to imply that  
> it wouldn't after all of the money that you have thrown at it to  
> make it work ;-)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 20:43:52 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:43:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
References: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0A653757-A260-4FF8-AF85-F904A23415B2@comcast.net>

Sounds like a bad coil that has a heat related failure.  Gets hot,  
wires separate and it dies..  or did you actually put the plugs in one  
of your cars to make sure..

Lester

On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Here is one for the record books.
> Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15 mile run, they  
> stop
> sparking!
> Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
> OK, if they were black, I could understand that the carbs were way too
> rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine, if not new  
> looking.
> Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
> Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
> WTF?
> This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I ever have this
> problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
> Any ideas?
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ\

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun  9 20:46:59 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 19:46:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
References: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001d01c8caa4$41ffa760$2f1df304@spider>

It may not be the plugs. Something related to heat, and cools down in the
time it takes to change the plugs?
======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 7:42 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem

Here is one for the record books.
Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15 mile run, they stop 
sparking!
Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
OK, if they were black, I could understand that the carbs were way too 
rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine, if not new looking.
Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
WTF?
This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I ever have this 
problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
Any ideas?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
_______________________________________________

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Jun  9 20:50:10 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:50:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Driver Magazine
In-Reply-To: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>
References: <484D6DDE.4090807@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <41053503-1DB7-48BE-A683-32797C1B04F5@phillymgclub.com>

THey carried the story of my 5 speed install a few years ago. Once in  
a while they do Midget stuff. It comes with a NAMGBR membership.

Larry

On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:52 PM, John Caffrey wrote:

> Are any members familiar with MGB Driver magazine? Do they normally
> include Spridgets in their magazine? I was in Hellertown PA for the
> British Car Gathering yesterday, and a photographer  took several  
> photos
> of my 74 Midget for an upcoming issue.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 20:56:00 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:56:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8caa4$41ffa760$2f1df304@spider>
References: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
	<001d01c8caa4$41ffa760$2f1df304@spider>
Message-ID: <484DED40.3020009@comcast.net>

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> It may not be the plugs. Something related to heat, and cools down in the
> time it takes to change the plugs?
>
>   
But what ever it is is killing the plugs.
Voltage smoking them inside?
The plugs, once dead, will not work again.
Tried 2 different brands too.
Chumps and NGKs


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:11:02 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:11:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Original Hose Clamps - Found Spares
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806092011j5c1f1015o9916569054f2e195@mail.gmail.com>

A while back someone was looking for some original wire type hose clamps for
the air hose on the heater fan... If you are still looking for those or
other sizes, I finally looked through some boxes of parts and found some.
Email me off list with your needs.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 21:40:25 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:40:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
References: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net><001d01c8caa4$41ffa760$2f1df304@spider>
	<484DED40.3020009@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003f01c8caab$b8a99900$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

No way Frank, there is no way the plugs are being killed.
You have to test them on another car..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
> But what ever it is is killing the plugs.
> Voltage smoking them inside?
> The plugs, once dead, will not work again.
> Tried 2 different brands too.
> Chumps and NGKs

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun  9 21:42:29 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:42:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Trevor Wilkinson, TVR.   RIP
Message-ID: <E1K5ukX-0006GG-WD@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The London Telegraph:    http://tinyurl.com/6k3fhn

From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 21:42:44 2008
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
References: <484DE9F0.6060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <62b83300806092042jd152113ic3e8a604860c5ee6@mail.gmail.com>

Quite a fews years back, I had the same thing happen with my 66 mustang.  I
went through three sets of plugs (Champion) before I said enough and put in
a different brand (Don't remember which).  But upon further investigation
with my parts supplier at the time, the plugs were part of a batch of Bad
Champion plugs.  Champion new about them and was recalling them. These just
happen to still be on the shelf.




On 6/9/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Here is one for the record books.
> Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15 mile run, they stop
> sparking!
> Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
> OK, if they were black, I could understand that the carbs were way too
> rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine, if not new looking.
> Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
> Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
> WTF?
> This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I ever have this
> problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  9 22:49:51 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <62b83300806092042jd152113ic3e8a604860c5ee6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <651622.94882.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would try firing the motor off in the dark. See if the porcelain has cracks in the plugs. At least this will tell you if there is any spark jumping any where else in the system too. I do not think a bad coil would kill plugs. Usually a bad coil loose voltage - That would not kill the plugs. 
   
  Vigil  

Brent Wolf <wolf.brent at gmail.com> wrote: 
  Quite a fews years back, I had the same thing happen with my 66 mustang. I
went through three sets of plugs (Champion) before I said enough and put in
a different brand (Don't remember which). But upon further investigation
with my parts supplier at the time, the plugs were part of a batch of Bad
Champion plugs. Champion new about them and was recalling them. These just
happen to still be on the shelf.




On 6/9/08, Frank Clarici wrote:
>
> Here is one for the record books.
> Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15 mile run, they stop
> sparking!
> Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
> OK, if they were black, I could understand that the carbs were way too
> rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine, if not new looking.
> Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
> Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
> WTF?
> This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I ever have this
> problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
> Any ideas?
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Mon Jun  9 23:05:45 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:05:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] anybody want to save
Message-ID: <4B07D6D4-4205-46C8-946D-6D6C8010513E@gerardsgarage.com>

  a pretty clean looking MGB? Near Sacramento.

NFI

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/713932778.html

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Jun 10 00:27:18 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 23:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 50th celebration event
Message-ID: <85F7E554-420A-4733-BBB3-B647C11B7366@gerardsgarage.com>

As it looks like I will be making the event at Lake of the Ozarks, I  
thought I'd ask if anyone was interested in having me bring along any  
rebuilt 3/4" brake master cylinders. I would be happy to bring along  
newly sleeved and assembled units for anyone who may want one. Please  
let me know as soon as possible so I can have them ready in time as I  
will be leaving the weekend of the 21st.

I will be bringing at least one disassembled sample along for anyone  
who wants to see the quality first hand

Thanks and see ya there.

Gerard

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Tue Jun 10 05:05:59 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:05:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
In-Reply-To: <0A653757-A260-4FF8-AF85-F904A23415B2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <930247.99039.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This car isn't fitted with those a set of those poxy points that go soft when
at operating temperature is it?


--- On Tue, 10/6/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Problem
> To:
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Received: Tuesday, 10 June, 2008, 12:43 PM
> Sounds like a bad coil that has a heat related failure.
> Gets hot,
> wires separate and it dies..  or did you actually put the
> plugs in one
> of your cars to make sure..
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 9, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:
>
> > Here is one for the record books.
> > Spark plugs, still clean and slightly tan after a 15
> mile run, they
> > stop
> > sparking!
> > Replace plugs, go 15 miles, plugs stop sparking.
> > OK, if they were black, I could understand that the
> carbs were way too
> > rich and the plugs fouled out but the plugs are fine,
> if not new
> > looking.
> > Bead blast the old plugs and they still do not work.
> > Put in new plugs and all is fine for a few miles.
> > WTF?
> > This is not on my car, but it is a Sprite and if I
> ever have this
> > problem, I would sure like to know what causes this!!!
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > --
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ\
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 05:09:02 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:09:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How times change
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15433.1213066193.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15433.1213066193.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <484E60CE.8030802@comcast.net>

Bob Kitterer wrote:
 > My bugeye was in storage for almost 18 months and just a few weeks
 > ago got moved to my new house.  Since then I have slowly been getting
 > the supplies to do a major service, all new fluids, plugs, speed
 > bleeders and such.  Just noticed that the bill for these items totals
 > over $100.  This caused a quick flash back to 1958 when I did a
 > complete engine rebuild on a AH 100 for just over $40!!!

If it's 1958 prices you're looking for, I'll give you a 1958 price
for your Bugeye. :)

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 05:49:39 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:49:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
References: <930247.99039.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B01CDA7BD1784252B799B61C44C4ADF6@midget>

Sounds like you finally found a legitimate use for one of those 
spark-testers. Either you have defective plugs (LOTS of them!), or there is 
something about the spark that just ain't right. Have you done a compression 
test? Have you tried cranking it over with the sparkplug against the engine? 
Are you running points? Have you checked the coil to see whether it expects 
a ballast resistor (resistance across the primaries with at least one side 
disconnected from the car should read about 3 ohms, if it is around 1.5 
ohms, it expects an external ballast)?
David 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 07:55:09 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:55:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>

> .. and what about 5 speeds?

Another good question. 5th gear is obviously of no benefit in an autocross 
where you never get out of 2nd, but that synchro on first can be a benefit 
to some styles of autocross. I won't pretend to be that good, I generally 
get it into second by the time I get to the first gate and never touch the 
shifter again until the end of the run.

Back to the Judson, the concept at the time was that a Judson on a 948 made 
it comparable to a 1275, right? So perhaps we should simply bump the car 
from the under 1200cc class into the over 1200cc class? And likewise with a 
5-speed? Either mod bumps you up a class.

Opinions are welcome.
David 

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 07:59:30 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:59:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <11012084.1213032468511.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <11012084.1213032468511.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CA991956C8155C-19DC-554@webmail-da01.sysops.aol.com>

Mike,

The guys name is Mitch Goldstein, and I believe he's from Rock Hill, SC.?

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.?


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 1:27 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR



Hey you Spridgeteers,

Does anyone know who or is the owner of the iris blue '63 Sprite with very rare 
Healey hardtop that raced at VIR last weekend?  The hardtop was really neat and 
the Sprite was excellent.  I beautiful car with the right period size tires.

Mike C

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From Grossac at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 08:19:13 2008
From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:19:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <d50.2cfc0073.357fe761@aol.com>

That's correct.  He is from Rock Hill, SC.
 
Chris Gross
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 10 08:52:26 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFKEKCHEAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W14C5BAEE2209EF134E75B7C2B30@phx.gbl>

I think that is one of the Sprites from the estate auction in Seneca Falls
a couple of months ago.
I wouldn't call it nice either, as it has alot of rust in it.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto


> Subject: [Spridgets] How does this qualify as NICE?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3ma36o
> Hal


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 08:54:51 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:54:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>

Just for my input...


the Judson is only going to help at the high rev ranges and according  
to the last info I read it gives a 30% bump in HP at max revs of 5500  
(IIRC) but doesn't really help in the torque department.

I can see the 5 speed synchro being a boost but that would only  
depend on the course, not often would I be shifting into 1st.

There are serious Autoxers and then there are the duffs like me (Last  
autox was in 2005, came in 2nd in class, and I was the only one in my  
class.)  A bigger difference would be stock, tall skinny tires (like  
for concours) or anything else.

What see ye all?

Lester


.. just not wanting to have to put the carbs back on..  ;-)


On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:55 AM, David Lieb wrote:

>> .. and what about 5 speeds?
>
> Another good question. 5th gear is obviously of no benefit in an  
> autocross where you never get out of 2nd, but that synchro on first  
> can be a benefit to some styles of autocross. I won't pretend to be  
> that good, I generally get it into second by the time I get to the  
> first gate and never touch the shifter again until the end of the run.
>
> Back to the Judson, the concept at the time was that a Judson on a  
> 948 made it comparable to a 1275, right? So perhaps we should  
> simply bump the car from the under 1200cc class into the over  
> 1200cc class? And likewise with a 5-speed? Either mod bumps you up  
> a class.
>
> Opinions are welcome.
> David

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 08:58:08 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:58:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>

Ok,

	I do not have a concours Bugeye but...

Does one put up the top and side curtains or stow them properly?

Should on put the hardtop on instead?

Does a Judson hurt or help?

Does a Datsun tranny hurt too much?

How serious is this going to be?  Is there any reason to enter  
anything other than a trailer queen?

Thanks all,

Lester

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 10 09:09:09 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:09:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484E36A5.16515.348D4E@dmg.bossig.com>

How about.....

1) Every entrant runs a qualifying course ... e.g. Straight out, a 180 at the 
far end, 5 cone slalom on the way back, stop in the box.

2) similar times go in the same group

3) Run the event on the real course

4) Anyone that betters his time by more than 15% gets bumped up to the 
appropriate class...   (sleepers !!!).

Just a suggestion

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jun 10 09:19:11 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:19:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<484E36A5.16515.348D4E@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c8cb0d$5676aa90$8500a8c0@CT>

Sounds like a "Bracket Autocross"

How about we just require that the guys with the hot cars drink a 6 pack
before their run?

Mark
Nashville
http://www.ArrestMeRed.com
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Dave G.
  To: Spridgets
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions


  How about.....

  1) Every entrant runs a qualifying course ... e.g. Straight out, a 180 at
the
  far end, 5 cone slalom on the way back, stop in the box.

  2) similar times go in the same group

  3) Run the event on the real course

  4) Anyone that betters his time by more than 15% gets bumped up to the
  appropriate class...   (sleepers !!!).

  Just a suggestion

  --
  Dave G.   KK7SS
  '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
  "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
      Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Jun 10 09:20:08 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:20:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Show up with the bugs and nicks of a fun road trip and show them with pride. 
Your car will look 100% better than the cars that don't show.  Mine's going 
to look like it usually does, mediocre garage paint job, half-a$$ polishing 
on the remaining annodizing, tatty daily-driver interior and the schmutz of 
2200 miles coating the engine compartment.  I don't plan on prying my butt 
out of the seat after five days and washing and waxing a car.  Not going to 
happen.  I plan on showing in the "Blue-collar lunch pail" class and I 
expect the trophy.  "Most interesting thing pulled from a radiator" and 
"Most varied collection of fast food wrappers in footwell" awards will be in 
my sights as well.

The hardtop will be an Albatross around your neck for at least some part of 
the trip despite the gas savings.  Side curtains make long drives less 
punishing, a Judson on a 948 is fun, a 5-speed is a gift from the gods, and 
if the trailer queens bother you, come over and hang with the other jealous 
guys like me who will be making catty comments about them while secretly 
dreaming.

See you there!

Glen Byrns

> Ok,
>
> I do not have a concours Bugeye but...
>
> Does one put up the top and side curtains or stow them properly?
>
> Should on put the hardtop on instead?
>
> Does a Judson hurt or help?
>
> Does a Datsun tranny hurt too much?
>
> How serious is this going to be?  Is there any reason to enter
> anything other than a trailer queen?
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Lester

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Jun 10 09:31:44 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:31:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog asks:

To put it another way, trailer queens and "concours" cars, stay away?
 -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>: --------------



> if the trailer queens bother you, come over and hang with the other jealous 
> guys like me who will be making catty comments about them while secretly 
> dreaming.   

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 09:36:11 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:36:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <484E36A5.16515.348D4E@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<484E36A5.16515.348D4E@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7332BE59-B3D3-4A04-B6AE-0B51A3D093A0@comcast.net>

I like it!!

Lester


On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:09 AM, Dave G. wrote:

> How about.....
>
> 1) Every entrant runs a qualifying course ... e.g. Straight out, a  
> 180 at the
> far end, 5 cone slalom on the way back, stop in the box.
>
> 2) similar times go in the same group
>
> 3) Run the event on the real course
>
> 4) Anyone that betters his time by more than 15% gets bumped up to the
> appropriate class...   (sleepers !!!).
>
> Just a suggestion
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 09:37:52 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:37:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <005a01c8cb0d$5676aa90$8500a8c0@CT>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>,
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<484E36A5.16515.348D4E@dmg.bossig.com>
	<005a01c8cb0d$5676aa90$8500a8c0@CT>
Message-ID: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>

I  like that even better.. how about we just require everyone to  
drink a 6 pack or equivalent and then see if they still want to run  
in 90 degree temps..

Lester
  ;-)

.. this sounds like a fun group!


On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Mark wrote:

> Sounds like a "Bracket Autocross"
>
> How about we just require that the guys with the hot cars drink a 6  
> pack
> before their run?
>
> Mark
> Nashville
> http://www.ArrestMeRed.com
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Dave G.
>   To: Spridgets
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed  
> questions
>
>
>   How about.....
>
>   1) Every entrant runs a qualifying course ... e.g. Straight out,  
> a 180 at
> the
>   far end, 5 cone slalom on the way back, stop in the box.
>
>   2) similar times go in the same group
>
>   3) Run the event on the real course
>
>   4) Anyone that betters his time by more than 15% gets bumped up  
> to the
>   appropriate class...   (sleepers !!!).
>
>   Just a suggestion
>
>   --
>   Dave G.   KK7SS
>   '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>   "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>       Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 09:50:06 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:50:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>

I'd say let EVERYONE show up. We are NOT the slobby, snobby, Spridget
owners.
Next suggestion will be to have the Midget owners stay away. They can
celebrate in 2011!!

LOL

I get Glen's point, but I am more of a own it and enjoy it kinda guy, not a
restore it, then store it person.

Davd G, who was the guy in MO, that sold you your abortion of a Sprite
again?
We all must be wary of the fox in our midst. I am not suggesting we ban him,
or anything, but for us all to be aware, of what he is willing to do to
members of our group.

Brad

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer"



On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:

>  tinydog asks:
>
> To put it another way, trailer queens and "concours" cars, stay away?
>  -------------- Original message from "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>:
> --------------
>
>
>
> > if the trailer queens bother you, come over and hang with the other
> jealous
> > guys like me who will be making catty comments about them while secretly
> > dreaming.
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Jun 10 09:52:27 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006601c8cb11$fb651f10$6401a8c0@personal>

This is for fun. i bet there is not a concourse Bugeye in the joint and that
includes Miss Agatha..


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Lester
  To: Spridgets Group Chat ; Sprite
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:58 AM
  Subject: Bugeye Group..... LotO meet show questions..


  Ok,

  I do not have a concours Bugeye but...

  Does one put up the top and side curtains or stow them properly?

  Should on put the hardtop on instead?

  Does a Judson hurt or help?

  Does a Datsun tranny hurt too much?

  How serious is this going to be? Is there any reason to enter
  anything other than a trailer queen?

  Thanks all,

  Lester



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From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 10 09:54:43 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<005a01c8cb0d$5676aa90$8500a8c0@CT>,
	<BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484E4153.21057.5E43D6@dmg.bossig.com>

Run????
They'll be too stoned to run...!!
Let 'em drive  <G>

On 10 Jun 2008 at 10:37, Lester wrote:

>> I  like that even better.. how about we just require everyone to 
>> drink a 6 pack or equivalent and then see if they still want to run 
>> in 90 degree temps..


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Tue Jun 10 09:57:42 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:57:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Need Frank Clarici email address please
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FD8@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Help please!!

Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 10 09:58:53 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:58:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>,
	<061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>,
	<e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484E424D.30869.621782@dmg.bossig.com>

His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton MO (near St Louis) last heard 
doing business as West Port Auto Center...

Dave G.

On 10 Jun 2008 at 10:50, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> Davd G, who was the guy in MO, that sold you your abortion of a Sprite
>> again? We all must be wary of the fox in our midst. I am not
>> suggesting we ban him, or anything, but for us all to be aware, of
>> what he is willing to do to members of our group


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 10 10:04:03 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:04:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <484E424D.30869.621782@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<484E424D.30869.621782@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080610110325.03563c50@nosimport.com>

I think he's sponsoring the cocktail party.... no?


At 10:58 AM 6/10/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>His name is Mark Rabenort from Fenton MO (near St Louis) last heard
>doing business as West Port Auto Center...
>
>Dave G.
>
>On 10 Jun 2008 at 10:50, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> >> Davd G, who was the guy in MO, that sold you your abortion of a Sprite
> >> again? We all must be wary of the fox in our midst. I am not
> >> suggesting we ban him, or anything, but for us all to be aware, of
> >> what he is willing to do to members of our group

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 10 10:12:14 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:12:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>,
	<061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>,
	<e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484E456E.14610.6E4F61@dmg.bossig.com>

>> > To put it another way, trailer queens and "concours" cars, stay
>> > away?

This weekend is the local '50's/'60's Show and Shine (about 700 cars usually..) Mainly 
Detroit Iron and tricked out Rice burners... LBC's not usually seen except for me and 
maybe one or two others...

Anyway, every year there there is this crew that arrives the night before at a local hotel 
with a trailer.
In the morning, at about 6:00 am, they drive to the show site, unload the car, put on the 
show wheels,and set it up.   
By about 10 am the owner has arrived by plane, sits by the car in his chair under the 
umbrella until the show is over, goes back to the airport and leaves.
The crew then packs up the car and they drive the car to the next show....
He has never won 1st place here!!

But "Best of Show" has been won twice by an older couple who drive to the show in their 
Morris Minor Woody...  a beautifully restored and driven car... you can barely hear the 
motor running...


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 10:15:13 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:15:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <7C61E5E9-4BC1-47C3-8F5F-927A70E8A50C@comcast.net>

.. including where the chrome plating just fell off the front  
bumperette like so much paint falling off a rust spot?

Lester

.. and what penalty is there for an Aussie special 50th boot badge?

HAH!  At the SAAB concours one year a guy hit a bird on the way there  
AFTER he had done all the cleaning etc.  Never checked to see "where  
that bird went".  Made a special mention at the awards banquet along  
with a neat pic..  ;-)




On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Glen Byrns wrote:

> Show up with the bugs and nicks of a fun road trip and show them  
> with pride. Your car will look 100% better than the cars that don't  
> show.  Mine's going to look like it usually does, mediocre garage  
> paint job, half-a$$ polishing on the remaining annodizing, tatty  
> daily-driver interior and the schmutz of 2200 miles coating the  
> engine compartment.  I don't plan on prying my butt out of the seat  
> after five days and washing and waxing a car.  Not going to  
> happen.  I plan on showing in the "Blue-collar lunch pail" class  
> and I expect the trophy.  "Most interesting thing pulled from a  
> radiator" and "Most varied collection of fast food wrappers in  
> footwell" awards will be in my sights as well.
>
> The hardtop will be an Albatross around your neck for at least some  
> part of the trip despite the gas savings.  Side curtains make long  
> drives less punishing, a Judson on a 948 is fun, a 5-speed is a  
> gift from the gods, and if the trailer queens bother you, come over  
> and hang with the other jealous guys like me who will be making  
> catty comments about them while secretly dreaming.
>
> See you there!
>
> Glen Byrns
>
>> Ok,
>>
>> I do not have a concours Bugeye but...
>>
>> Does one put up the top and side curtains or stow them properly?
>>
>> Should on put the hardtop on instead?
>>
>> Does a Judson hurt or help?
>>
>> Does a Datsun tranny hurt too much?
>>
>> How serious is this going to be?  Is there any reason to enter
>> anything other than a trailer queen?
>>
>> Thanks all,
>>
>> Lester

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 10:18:45 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:18:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <484E4153.21057.5E43D6@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>,
	<005a01c8cb0d$5676aa90$8500a8c0@CT>,
	<BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
	<484E4153.21057.5E43D6@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <ACBA1270-7B6C-4D77-B264-93BDB5173E83@comcast.net>

ROFLMAO!!!

Lester


On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:54 AM, Dave G. wrote:

> Run????
> They'll be too stoned to run...!!
> Let 'em drive  <G>
>
> On 10 Jun 2008 at 10:37, Lester wrote:
>
>>> I  like that even better.. how about we just require everyone to
>>> drink a 6 pack or equivalent and then see if they still want to run
>>> in 90 degree temps..
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 10 10:28:34 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:28:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><061020081531.11980.484E9E60000777C300002ECC22218801869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<e98d88090806100850w435cecft2ece9d53014369ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007b01c8cb17$0ab1f420$01fea8c0@C600>

I think the guy should be encouraged to rent booth space, and all attendees
warned in advance to not buy anything from him.  Let him contribute to the
event.

Kate

> We all must be wary of the fox in our midst. I am not suggesting we ban
him,
> or anything, but for us all to be aware, of what he is willing to do to
> members of our group.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jun 10 10:37:01 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:37:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <00cd01c8cb18$36603ef0$8500a8c0@CT>

Crap!  I have been cleaning my car up for the last month!  I guess I will now
need to go home and throw some mud on it!!

Mark
Nashville
http://www.ArrestMeRed.com
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Glen Byrns
  To: Lester
  Cc: Spridgets
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..


  Show up with the bugs and nicks of a fun road trip and show them with pride.
  Your car will look 100% better than the cars that don't show.  Mine's going
  to look like it usually does, mediocre garage paint job, half-a$$ polishing
  on the remaining annodizing, tatty daily-driver interior and the schmutz of
  2200 miles coating the engine compartment.  I don't plan on prying my butt
  out of the seat after five days and washing and waxing a car.  Not going to
  happen.  I plan on showing in the "Blue-collar lunch pail" class and I
  expect the trophy.  "Most interesting thing pulled from a radiator" and
  "Most varied collection of fast food wrappers in footwell" awards will be in
  my sights as well.

  The hardtop will be an Albatross around your neck for at least some part of
  the trip despite the gas savings.  Side curtains make long drives less
  punishing, a Judson on a 948 is fun, a 5-speed is a gift from the gods, and
  if the trailer queens bother you, come over and hang with the other jealous
  guys like me who will be making catty comments about them while secretly
  dreaming.

  See you there!

  Glen Byrns

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Jun 10 10:46:59 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:46:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <00cd01c8cb18$36603ef0$8500a8c0@CT>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<00cd01c8cb18$36603ef0$8500a8c0@CT>
Message-ID: <484EB003.6040608@b2systems.com>

 Yes, but its modern mud, you will lose points for non-original mud.

Mark wrote:
> Crap!  I have been cleaning my car up for the last month!  I guess I will now
> need to go home and throw some mud on it!!
>
> Mark
> Nashville
> http://www.ArrestMeRed.com
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Glen Byrns
>   To: Lester
>   Cc: Spridgets
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:20 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
>
>
>   Show up with the bugs and nicks of a fun road trip and show them with pride.
>   Your car will look 100% better than the cars that don't show.  Mine's going
>   to look like it usually does, mediocre garage paint job, half-a$$ polishing
>   on the remaining annodizing, tatty daily-driver interior and the schmutz of
>   2200 miles coating the engine compartment.  I don't plan on prying my butt
>   out of the seat after five days and washing and waxing a car.  Not going to
>   happen.  I plan on showing in the "Blue-collar lunch pail" class and I
>   expect the trophy.  "Most interesting thing pulled from a radiator" and
>   "Most varied collection of fast food wrappers in footwell" awards will be in
>   my sights as well.
>
>   The hardtop will be an Albatross around your neck for at least some part of
>   the trip despite the gas savings.  Side curtains make long drives less
>   punishing, a Judson on a 948 is fun, a 5-speed is a gift from the gods, and
>   if the trailer queens bother you, come over and hang with the other jealous
>   guys like me who will be making catty comments about them while secretly
>   dreaming.
>
>   See you there!
>
>   Glen Byrns
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Jun 10 12:14:19 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:14:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>

In 1960 I had a Judson installed on my then new Sprite.  On the dyno  
there was a 45% hp increase but this was with 100 octane leaded gas.   
I suspect that one of the listers with a Judson installed also has  
the pressure (boost) gage installed and could tell us about how soon  
the pressure goes up vs rpm/gear.  It seemed to me that it came up  
pretty quick when I go on the pedal - - - but you know every thing in  
the past looks better when you get old.  :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 10, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Lester wrote:

> Just for my input...
>
>
> the Judson is only going to help at the high rev ranges and according
> to the last info I read it gives a 30% bump in HP at max revs of 5500
> (IIRC) but doesn't really help in the torque department.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 13:04:19 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:04:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] New Problem
Message-ID: <c46.338243ad.35802a33@aol.com>

Hi Frank,
 
I agree - send them back to NGK or send them back to me and I'll send them  
to NGK.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 10/06/2008 04:43:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
wolf.brent at gmail.com writes:

Quite a  fews years back, I had the same thing happen with my 66 mustang.   I
went through three sets of plugs (Champion) before I said enough and put  in
a different brand (Don't remember which).  But upon further  investigation
with my parts supplier at the time, the plugs were part of a  batch of Bad
Champion plugs.  Champion new about them and was  recalling them. These just
happen to still be on the  shelf.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 13:08:23 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:08:23 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross
Message-ID: <d21.2e102ff3.35802b27@aol.com>

In UK Motorsports any forced induction car is treated as having a  
'co-efficient of 1.7:1' so gets treated the same as the bigger engine car. So,  in 
England.....
 
In a message dated 10/06/2008 14:55:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

Back to  the Judson, the concept at the time was that a Judson on a 948 made 
it  comparable to a 1275, right? So perhaps we should simply bump the car 
from  the under 1200cc class into the over 1200cc class? And likewise with a  
5-speed? Either mod bumps you up a class.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 13:09:02 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:09:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
Message-ID: <72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>

You personally got 45% or this was claimed?  When looking at a few  
articles written in the 50's the commentary was that the claim was  
45% or 50% in the sales literature but actual testing was closer to  
25%..  look down a bit on this one..

http://www.infostuff.com/carstuff/mgacbc/mgajudson.htm

Lester

On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> In 1960 I had a Judson installed on my then new Sprite.  On the dyno
> there was a 45% hp increase but this was with 100 octane leaded gas.
> I suspect that one of the listers with a Judson installed also has
> the pressure (boost) gage installed and could tell us about how soon
> the pressure goes up vs rpm/gear.  It seemed to me that it came up
> pretty quick when I go on the pedal - - - but you know every thing in
> the past looks better when you get old.  :-)
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 13:10:40 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:10:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <cf2.3458fbb5.35802bb0@aol.com>

At Sprite Rush 98 the guy that won the Autocross had a 5-speed and it  looked 
like it was a definite advantage as he could drop down into 1st gear as  
required.
 
In a message dated 10/06/2008 15:58:32 GMT Daylight Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Does a  Datsun tranny hurt too much?

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 13:13:35 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:13:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <cf2.3458fbb5.35802bb0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7AF82264F7194705B1CCBC2F62651376@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Does a  Datsun tranny hurt too much?

>> At Sprite Rush 98 the guy that won the Autocross had a 5-speed and it 
>> looked
>> like it was a definite advantage as he could drop down into 1st gear as
>> required.

Yes, but the question being asked in this case was in regards to the car 
SHOW, not the autocross.
We already covered the benefits of a syncho first gear at the autocross. 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 13:19:20 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:19:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <c13.322cf20a.35802db8@aol.com>

Doesn't sound like as much fun as:  takes the train to the airport  (flies 
economy), flies transatlantic, gets a rental car and ignoring his buddies  
advice gets nicked speeding, diagnoses a broken Sprite he is a passenger in as  
being out of petrol, pushes the car to the gas station, holds an umbrella in the  
pouring rain for someone fixing a Sprite, drives someone elses's Sprite, 
trades  rusty parts for rusty parts, never gets enough sleep, goes home inside a 
week  later (flies economy).
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 10/06/2008 17:12:54 GMT Daylight Time, dmg at bossig.com  
writes:

By about  10 am the owner has arrived by plane, sits by the car in his chair 
under the  
umbrella until the show is over, goes back to the airport and  leaves.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 10 13:21:36 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:21:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <ccc.347a421a.35802e40@aol.com>

I'm blaming the time difference for not keeping up here!
 
In a message dated 10/06/2008 20:13:47 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

Yes, but  the question being asked in this case

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 13:22:41 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:22:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <c13.322cf20a.35802db8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <25445EA50776461CBF56003AFBC9A2F9@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Doesn't sound like as much fun as:  takes the train to the airport  (flies
> economy), flies transatlantic, gets a rental car and ignoring his buddies
> advice gets nicked speeding, diagnoses a broken Sprite he is a passenger 
> in as
> being out of petrol, pushes the car to the gas station, holds an umbrella 
> in the
> pouring rain for someone fixing a Sprite, drives someone elses's Sprite,
> trades  rusty parts for rusty parts, never gets enough sleep, goes home 
> inside a
> week  later (flies economy).

Spot on, Daniel! 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 13:25:50 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:25:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <ccc.347a421a.35802e40@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A9EAB4D253CC43DDA3552319BC40DF59@NilesAD.von.gov>

> I'm blaming the time difference for not keeping up here!

So don't dodge the question! What should be the effect of a 5-speed at the 
car show?
I have them in both cars that I am taking... Not that I have anything to 
worry about at a car show.
David Lieb 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 13:38:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:38:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <006601c8cb11$fb651f10$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<006601c8cb11$fb651f10$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806101238u3e8aab6bs2a1c3d69356b0d77@mail.gmail.com>

You'll get some extra points for vintage chewing gum stuck under the dash
and NOS air in the tires.  ;-)

Jack is right - it's people's choice judging.  The cutest car will win as
the ladies will be doing some voting too.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/10/08, Jack Laird <jlaird237 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> This is for fun. i bet there is not a concourse Bugeye in the joint and
> that
> includes Miss Agatha..
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Lester
>   To: Spridgets Group Chat ; Sprite
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:58 AM
>   Subject: Bugeye Group..... LotO meet show questions..
>
>
>   Ok,
>
>   I do not have a concours Bugeye but...
>
>   Does one put up the top and side curtains or stow them properly?
>
>   Should on put the hardtop on instead?
>
>   Does a Judson hurt or help?
>
>   Does a Datsun tranny hurt too much?
>
>   How serious is this going to be? Is there any reason to enter
>   anything other than a trailer queen?
>
>   Thanks all,
>
>   Lester
>
>
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 13:39:10 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:39:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <A9EAB4D253CC43DDA3552319BC40DF59@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <ccc.347a421a.35802e40@aol.com>
	<A9EAB4D253CC43DDA3552319BC40DF59@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <76A4330A-3503-49B2-A0AD-C88F8C3EFA66@comcast.net>

.. and another thing, I have noted that at "real" concours the judges  
want things to work, to be as close to original as possible..  does  
this give me an advantage since I have lousy oil pressure and very  
dim headlights..  man this car show stuff provides endless  
questions...  ;-)

Lester

.. but really.. aboot (Canadian spelling) the 5 speed..


On Jun 10, 2008, at 2:25 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> I'm blaming the time difference for not keeping up here!
>
> So don't dodge the question! What should be the effect of a 5-speed  
> at the
> car show?
> I have them in both cars that I am taking... Not that I have  
> anything to
> worry about at a car show.
> David Lieb

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 10 14:25:24 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:25:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <76A4330A-3503-49B2-A0AD-C88F8C3EFA66@comcast.net>
References: <ccc.347a421a.35802e40@aol.com><A9EAB4D253CC43DDA3552319BC40DF59@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<76A4330A-3503-49B2-A0AD-C88F8C3EFA66@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP038735F87E695894D45BC8B8B30@CEZ.ICE>

No, no, no ... Cdn spelling has the "ou" ...

Ie: "humour".

That must be German?

-----Original Message-----
From: Lester


.. but really.. aboot (Canadian spelling) the 5 speed..

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 14:32:34 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MO$$ Supercharger winner
Message-ID: <898682.13956.qm@web51911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Well, I know it was not me...&nbsp; See the winner at the link below...
&nbsp;
http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/Pages/pr-0806a.html?utm_source=British134&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=Emailer

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 14:38:54 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:38:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Attn: Maxine? Middle Years Horn Push
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806101338q738cad04v5337c215cf831234@mail.gmail.com>

A while back someone was looking for a horn push assembly for an original
wire type steering wheel used between 1965 & 1969... If you are still
looking for one, I finally looked through some boxes of parts and found one
with the Sprite emblem on it. Email me off list.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 14:41:42 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:41:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Trim Pieces - 65 to 67
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806101341r3b793479p438867abb941f465@mail.gmail.com>

A while back someone was looking for some original aluminum trim pieces that
went in the crook between the door and the long rear finishing piece... If
you are still looking for those, I finally looked through some boxes of
parts and found a pair. Email me off list.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 10 14:44:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:44:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Aluminum Trim Pieces - 65 to 67
References: <b777e2be0806101341r3b793479p438867abb941f465@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8A3974A5A995476EA2297A79CC7A6946@NilesAD.von.gov>

> ...If you are still looking for those, I finally looked through some boxes 
> of
> parts and found a pair. Email me off list.

Hey Kent, are you bringing any of these marvelous boxes to LotO???
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 15:29:49 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MO$$ Supercharger winner
In-Reply-To: <898682.13956.qm@web51911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <915028.82963.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Interesting - Did you notice where the guy was located?     Goleta, CA .
   
  The same place Moss is located. MMMmmmmmmm
   
  They gave it to a local.  .  .    .     Coincidence?   
   
  What are the odds of that?
   
   
   
  
Red Midget <redmidget72 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Well, I know it was not me...  See the winner at the link below...
 
http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/Pages/pr-0806a.html?utm_source=British134&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Emailer
You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com

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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 10 16:30:05 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:30:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <ccc.347a421a.35802e40@aol.com>
	<A9EAB4D253CC43DDA3552319BC40DF59@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <006101c8cb49$88cd82c0$6601a8c0@shop>

<<So don't dodge the question!>>

David, Daniel is NOT "dodging the question" but one DOES have to keep in mind he IS home from the Pub!!!!  10:30 PM GST !!!    <G>

From duncan at pondhop.com  Tue Jun 10 15:41:15 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:41:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MO$$ Supercharger winner
In-Reply-To: <915028.82963.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <898682.13956.qm@web51911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<915028.82963.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAACBwhaaQFbVOkhzEpk1u2eMBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

Apart from he is not :)
"we are happy to announce that the winner is Dave Hinman of Novi, Michigan."

Thanks
Duncan

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Interesting - Did you notice where the guy was located?     Goleta, CA .
   
  The same place Moss is located. MMMmmmmmmm
   
  They gave it to a local.  .  .    .     Coincidence?   
   
  What are the odds of that?
   
   
   
  
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  Well, I know it was not me...  See the winner at the link below...
 
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun 10 17:20:19 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:20:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<B250C14A4EFB480CA57C15D1A0809323@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <1463669085.20080610162019@pacifier.com>

Hello Glen,

     I'm with you...

     oil spattered engine bay, bugs on the windscreen, .. i've been
     trying to decide if i should even wash it after arriving before
     the show .... hmmm?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing. 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 18:26:16 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:26:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget><414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net><905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget><41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net><B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov><89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net><02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004c01c8cb59$c4454120$0300a8c0@blackbox2>

It's actually somewhere in between.

Let's say on the best of days you get 4.5 psi from your Judson.
and atmospheric is 14.7 psi

Well 4.5/14.7 x 100 is about a 30% increase in volumetric efficiency.

It's actually a little more since the normally aspirated case is not at 100% 
volumetric efficiency.

And yes, once you get off idle, you get practically full boost as soon as 
you go WOT.
This is because the Judson is an adibiatic compressor (in compresses the air 
inside itself).
The pressure on it's output side is strictly a function of the pressure on 
it's input side and not a function of it's rotation speed.

So, once the vanes stop going clackety clack, your get full boost.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets Group Chat" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions


> You personally got 45% or this was claimed?  When looking at a few
> articles written in the 50's the commentary was that the claim was
> 45% or 50% in the sales literature but actual testing was closer to
> 25%..  look down a bit on this one..
>
> http://www.infostuff.com/carstuff/mgacbc/mgajudson.htm
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> In 1960 I had a Judson installed on my then new Sprite.  On the dyno
>> there was a 45% hp increase but this was with 100 octane leaded gas.
>> I suspect that one of the listers with a Judson installed also has
>> the pressure (boost) gage installed and could tell us about how soon
>> the pressure goes up vs rpm/gear.  It seemed to me that it came up
>> pretty quick when I go on the pedal - - - but you know every thing in
>> the past looks better when you get old.  :-)
>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> 2
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 19:15:40 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:15:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>

The red car wins, even if it looks like it was painted with a roller. :)
Having had the opportunity to count the votes at Sprite Jubilee, Most 
people vote for the the nicer cars, many vote for their own cars
I think cause there were 1 or 2 votes for several cars that were just 
OK. But the winning Bugeye deserved it and they did win by a landslide. 
MKIIs were real close because the competition was close, and I know both 
1st and 2nd place winners personally, they both are list members and it 
was a tough call. MKIII was a hands down as was MKIV.
We will have Midgets too, there is another 4 or 5 classes.
As a side note, PLEASE vote for the deserving car, not the red one ;) 
and Do give some thought to a vote for your own car, if you and your 
wife are the only voters on your car, it's pretty much a wasted vote. A 
vote that could break a tie in your class. I mean if your car is 
exceptional, then by all means vote for it. If you have ripped seats and 
rust bubbles, and the car next to you is perfect, vote for the deserving 
car. I know everybody's car is better than the next guys :)

I will be ripping apart the 58 as soon as it gets home to get rid of the 
"originality" crap like a generator, regular, Lucas super dim headlamps, 
and the monster steering wheel.
My son wants to keep it *original* for the 50th meet. Tonight at dinner 
we discussed an alternator the day we get home, the wood steering wheel 
and some H4s so he can use the car and maybe see the road at night.
But it is a 58 and it's sporting the Aussy boot badge in the wrong color 
no less!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Jun 10 19:16:24 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:16:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Driver Magazine
Message-ID: <9815303.1213146985031.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

Thanks for the info Larry. 
John

Larry Macy wrote:


>THey carried the story of my 5 speed install a few years ago. Once in  
> a while they do Midget stuff. It comes with a NAMGBR membership.

> Larry

> On Jun 9, 2008, at 1:52 PM, John Caffrey wrote:

> > Are any members familiar with MGB Driver magazine? Do they normally
> > include Spridgets in their magazine? I was in Hellertown PA for the
> > British Car Gathering yesterday, and a photographer  took several  
> > photos
> > of my 74 Midget for an upcoming issue.
> > John
> > Fogelsville, PA
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 19:19:15 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:19:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>

Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session at LOTO
> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable vise for
> the demo 

I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's 
anywhere around.
Or maybe Jim has one.
Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed trailer 
with a mounted vise that will be ther.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 10 19:25:49 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:25:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP013C5C45E3104E6053F040B8B20@CEZ.ICE>

A stable vise.

A mounted vise.

Please let's snot go there ... ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici

Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session at LOTO
> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable vise for
> the demo 

I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's 
anywhere around.
Or maybe Jim has one.
Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed trailer 
with a mounted vise that will be ther.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Jun 10 19:36:56 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:36:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>

The shop that did the installation used a dyno and I was standing  
there while they did the final tune and it was a 45% increase, how  
long that lasted may be another question.  Now this was new out of  
the box and installed by a Judson approved shop.  It sure ran like a  
scalded cat - - - - in 1960.  The gas mileage was worse than  
advertised as was the Marvel oil for the blower.  But it sure made  
the car a blast - - - like going over Tioga pass (10,000+ ft) and  
easily passing a new Pontiac gasping for air.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Lester wrote:

> You personally got 45% or this was claimed?  When looking at a few
> articles written in the 50's the commentary was that the claim was
> 45% or 50% in the sales literature but actual testing was closer to
> 25%..  look down a bit on this one..
>
> http://www.infostuff.com/carstuff/mgacbc/mgajudson.htm
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> In 1960 I had a Judson installed on my then new Sprite.  On the dyno
>> there was a 45% hp increase but this was with 100 octane leaded gas.
>> I suspect that one of the listers with a Judson installed also has
>> the pressure (boost) gage installed and could tell us about how soon
>> the pressure goes up vs rpm/gear.  It seemed to me that it came up
>> pretty quick when I go on the pedal - - - but you know every thing in
>> the past looks better when you get old.  :-)
>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> 2
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 10 19:42:25 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:42:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <042001c8cb64$66ab7560$6401a8c0@Larry>

So, Frank, tell us which listers are the proud winners at Sprite Jubilee so 
we can all give them the clap.


LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets Group Chat" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..


The red car wins, even if it looks like it was painted with a roller. :)
Having had the opportunity to count the votes at Sprite Jubilee, Most
people vote for the the nicer cars, many vote for their own cars
I think cause there were 1 or 2 votes for several cars that were just
OK. But the winning Bugeye deserved it and they did win by a landslide.
MKIIs were real close because the competition was close, and I know both
1st and 2nd place winners personally, they both are list members and it
was a tough call. MKIII was a hands down as was MKIV.
We will have Midgets too, there is another 4 or 5 classes.
As a side note, PLEASE vote for the deserving car, not the red one ;)
and Do give some thought to a vote for your own car, if you and your
wife are the only voters on your car, it's pretty much a wasted vote. A
vote that could break a tie in your class. I mean if your car is
exceptional, then by all means vote for it. If you have ripped seats and
rust bubbles, and the car next to you is perfect, vote for the deserving
car. I know everybody's car is better than the next guys :)

I will be ripping apart the 58 as soon as it gets home to get rid of the
"originality" crap like a generator, regular, Lucas super dim headlamps,
and the monster steering wheel.
My son wants to keep it *original* for the 50th meet. Tonight at dinner
we discussed an alternator the day we get home, the wood steering wheel
and some H4s so he can use the car and maybe see the road at night.
But it is a 58 and it's sporting the Aussy boot badge in the wrong color
no less!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 20:20:44 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:20:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <042001c8cb64$66ab7560$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net> <042001c8cb64$66ab7560$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <484F367C.5020102@comcast.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:
> So, Frank, tell us which listers are the proud winners at Sprite Jubilee so 
> we can all give them the clap.
>
>   
You should have been there.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 20:24:12 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:24:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Orbit gum commercial
Message-ID: <e98d88090806101924v265e33cfvf8b19417075443e3@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone else seen the new Orbit Gum Commercial, where the gal is biting bits
off a MGB??

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 10 14:12:48 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:12:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] For Brad (No LBC!!)
Message-ID: <484E7DD0.27898.14A8CAA@dmg.bossig.com>

>From my sister...

"One Tequila, two Tequila, three Tequila,..... FLOOR!!"


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 20:35:38 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:35:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For Brad (No LBC!!)
In-Reply-To: <484E7DD0.27898.14A8CAA@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <484E7DD0.27898.14A8CAA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806101935j5b58e620u1d679a8ecdf7376e@mail.gmail.com>

I have been a proponent for Don Julio 1942, but would like to shift my
support to Casa Noble Anejo.
If you like good tequila, THIS is IT!!!

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> >From my sister...
>
> "One Tequila, two Tequila, three Tequila,..... FLOOR!!"
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 10 22:09:40 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:09:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<042001c8cb64$66ab7560$6401a8c0@Larry> <484F367C.5020102@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01c901c8cb78$f9258980$6601a8c0@shop>

<<You should have been there.>>

SMART ones (like me and Larry) KNOW better, Frank!!!

How much was the Dash Plaque???

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 10 22:12:54 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:12:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01d101c8cb79$6c65c770$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed trailer 
with a mounted vise that will be there.>>

Willy T. from WI WILL be there WITH trailer (3 females with IS the reason for towing<G>).

He might be able to assist, Frank.

And he did NOT have the nationally seen flood problems!!!

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 21:34:11 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:34:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
	<C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C232A72F-7C2A-41B7-A289-ECD05891913F@comcast.net>

it is now obvious that mine is not functioning correctly..  sigh...

Lester


On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:36 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> The shop that did the installation used a dyno and I was standing
> there while they did the final tune and it was a 45% increase, how
> long that lasted may be another question.  Now this was new out of
> the box and installed by a Judson approved shop.  It sure ran like a
> scalded cat - - - - in 1960.  The gas mileage was worse than
> advertised as was the Marvel oil for the blower.  But it sure made
> the car a blast - - - like going over Tioga pass (10,000+ ft) and
> easily passing a new Pontiac gasping for air.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2008, at 12:09 PM, Lester wrote:
>
>> You personally got 45% or this was claimed?  When looking at a few
>> articles written in the 50's the commentary was that the claim was
>> 45% or 50% in the sales literature but actual testing was closer to
>> 25%..  look down a bit on this one..
>>
>> http://www.infostuff.com/carstuff/mgacbc/mgajudson.htm
>>
>> Lester
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2008, at 1:14 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>>
>>> In 1960 I had a Judson installed on my then new Sprite.  On the dyno
>>> there was a 45% hp increase but this was with 100 octane leaded gas.
>>> I suspect that one of the listers with a Judson installed also has
>>> the pressure (boost) gage installed and could tell us about how soon
>>> the pressure goes up vs rpm/gear.  It seemed to me that it came up
>>> pretty quick when I go on the pedal - - - but you know every thing  
>>> in
>>> the past looks better when you get old.  :-)
>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>
>>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>>> 2
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 23:05:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:05:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>

Frank is dead on!   Moreover, tiebreakers will go to the older car as
determined  by VIN with Horler being the authority.

See ya'll at Lake of the Ozarks!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The red car wins, even if it looks like it was painted with a roller. :)
> Having had the opportunity to count the votes at Sprite Jubilee, Most
> people vote for the the nicer cars, many vote for their own cars
> I think cause there were 1 or 2 votes for several cars that were just
> OK. But the winning Bugeye deserved it and they did win by a landslide.
> MKIIs were real close because the competition was close, and I know both
> 1st and 2nd place winners personally, they both are list members and it
> was a tough call. MKIII was a hands down as was MKIV.
> We will have Midgets too, there is another 4 or 5 classes.
> As a side note, PLEASE vote for the deserving car, not the red one ;)
> and Do give some thought to a vote for your own car, if you and your
> wife are the only voters on your car, it's pretty much a wasted vote. A
> vote that could break a tie in your class. I mean if your car is
> exceptional, then by all means vote for it. If you have ripped seats and
> rust bubbles, and the car next to you is perfect, vote for the deserving
> car. I know everybody's car is better than the next guys :)
>
> I will be ripping apart the 58 as soon as it gets home to get rid of the
> "originality" crap like a generator, regular, Lucas super dim headlamps,
> and the monster steering wheel.
> My son wants to keep it *original* for the 50th meet. Tonight at dinner
> we discussed an alternator the day we get home, the wood steering wheel
> and some H4s so he can use the car and maybe see the road at night.
> But it is a 58 and it's sporting the Aussy boot badge in the wrong color
> no less!
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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2008!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 23:11:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:11:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806102211t16dd25a3n878eca5b6386cd17@mail.gmail.com>

I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux has also
volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions. Schedule wise,
Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June 29th while
the God fearing are in church  ;-)
Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's call...  He's
in charge of the tech.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
>
>> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session at LOTO
>> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable vise for
>> the demo
>>
>
> I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's
> anywhere around.
> Or maybe Jim has one.
> Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed trailer with a
> mounted vise that will be ther.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


-- 
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 11 06:27:44 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:27:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] For Brad (No LBC!!)
In-Reply-To: <484E7DD0.27898.14A8CAA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39804FF3D777E4620AFC79B8B20@phx.gbl>

I saw that on a t-shirt.

Another couple of t-shirts that I saw way back when ( late 70's ) was when I 
was at a cottage party.  Woman walks in with a t-shirt that isn't much 
special.  The graphic has musical notes and Lawrence Welch type bubbles 
floating around and the words are "I'm forever blowing bubbles ...".  A 
while later, after she makes the rounds and gets noticed, her husband walks 
in, and his t-shirt reads ... "Hi, I'm Bubbles!"


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>

 >From my sister...

"One Tequila, two Tequila, three Tequila,..... FLOOR!!"


--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 11 06:45:58 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:45:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] no duct tape involved
Message-ID: <BAY112-F379467EC782AA69015461CB8B20@phx.gbl>

Here's something that you don't see very often.

http://www.classic-british-cars.com/gallery/gal01106.jpg

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Jun 11 07:25:32 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:25:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] no duct tape involved
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F379467EC782AA69015461CB8B20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F379467EC782AA69015461CB8B20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <06df01c8cbc6$a038cfa0$1801010a@xp>

That made my week! 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:46 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] no duct tape involved

Here's something that you don't see very often.

http://www.classic-british-cars.com/gallery/gal01106.jpg
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 07:48:38 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:48:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>

Maybe I should put my question this way:

Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot  
badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is  
it just a waste of the judges time?

Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??

Lester

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 07:59:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:59:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net><43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EB53CE76E3A0423F972E87C2E89F0B37@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
> it just a waste of the judges time?

Since it is NOT a judged show, but rather an event voted on by your peers, I 
think you should enter the show. A wel-engineered and executed front-tilt 
bonnet conversion would be a plus in my eyes (since I am intending to go 
around photographing those so that I can decide how I want to do mine). 
Rather than thinking of it as a car show, think of it as a great parking 
place from which to go around and admire everybody else's Spridget. Besides, 
what higher goal in life is there than to waste the time of a bunch of 
concours judges?
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 08:02:35 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:02:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net><43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com><66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<EB53CE76E3A0423F972E87C2E89F0B37@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <451C195F03A54BD9950D534B8672917E@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Since it is NOT a judged show, but rather an event voted on by your peers, 
> I
> think you should enter the show. A wel-engineered and executed front-tilt
> bonnet conversion would be a plus in my eyes (since I am intending to go
> around photographing those so that I can decide how I want to do mine).
> Rather than thinking of it as a car show, think of it as a great parking
> place from which to go around and admire everybody else's Spridget. 
> Besides,
> what higher goal in life is there than to waste the time of a bunch of
> concours judges?

Please bear in mind that this is my opinion and does not reflect any 
official stance on the part of the event committee.
David 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 11 08:06:49 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:06:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>

At 08:48 AM 6/11/2008, Lester wrote:
>Maybe I should put my question this way:
>
>Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
>badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
>it just a waste of the judges time?
>
>Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
>
>Lester
======================
Lester,
         I'm bringing my car. It is a 1964 with a 1380, hardtop 
permanently attached, un-original seats, wood dash, small wheels, 
tube shocks, and front wheel drive!


         I'll join you in the bar......


Peter C. 

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 11 08:17:44 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>,
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>,
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>

I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and ignore the 
comments of the Hoi Polloi

My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can touch me", 
and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat

Dave G.

On 11 Jun 2008 at 8:48, Lester wrote:
>> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot 
>> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is 
>> it just a waste of the judges time?
>> 
>> Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Jun 11 08:18:38 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:18:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI - Performance/Race tires
Message-ID: <484FDEBE.8010609@lehigh.edu>

I saw a message on the vintage list two days ago for Yokohama Advan A048 
DOT race tires in our size, 185/60-13, and for a great price of $49 +$15 
shipping each. Yesterday one person bought all 1000 tires. They were 
recently discontinued, but he found another warehouse full, and this 
morning I bought a set at $60 each. They look like a very good option to 
the Hoosiers at $161, and I thought I would pass it on before they are 
gone. Ebay Item number: 260248659380, or http://www.yournexttire.com/
John
Fogelsville, PA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 11 08:21:01 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:21:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>,
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>,
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <051101c8cbce$603ad8f0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Just to clarify, Dave, that sign actually refers to your car... right?

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..


I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and ignore the 
comments of the Hoi Polloi

My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can touch me", 
and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat

Dave G.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 08:22:17 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:22:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>

I think I shared this story before, but I'll do it again, what the hell.
Many years ago, Martha and I were at a car show in the 68 and 65 Sprites. We
were on the far side of the 65, away from the 68, sitting in the shade. I
was watching a father and his 13 or 14 year old son, looking at the 68. The
son stands next to the drivers side, with his elbow hovering above the
windscreen, just barely not touching. Father is lining up the camera for a
shot, when I stand up and ask them what they think they are doing.
Father tells me that the son wanted a photo near the car. I proceed to tell
him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car. I get the door open,
set him behind the wheel, get his arm up on the door and wing window, like
he's out cruising. Dad gets a photo, and that kid left with the biggest grin
you ever did see.

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and ignore the
> comments of the Hoi Polloi
>
> My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can touch me",
> and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat
>
> Dave G.
>
> On 11 Jun 2008 at 8:48, Lester wrote:
> >> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
> >> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
> >> it just a waste of the judges time?
> >>
> >> Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Wed Jun 11 08:23:19 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:23:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAABn56Bal6MNHnmhYJHt/i8YBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

Now, how ironic is that :)
PPP has a car with tube shocks !!

Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Peter C
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 09:07
To: Lester; Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets Group Chat
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..

At 08:48 AM 6/11/2008, Lester wrote:
>Maybe I should put my question this way:
>
>Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
>badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
>it just a waste of the judges time?
>
>Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
>
>Lester
======================
Lester,
         I'm bringing my car. It is a 1964 with a 1380, hardtop 
permanently attached, un-original seats, wood dash, small wheels, 
tube shocks, and front wheel drive!


         I'll join you in the bar......


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 08:25:44 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:25:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net><43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com><66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net><7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
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Message-ID: <CD6B36F2D70E44159082516E14EB4EB1@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Now, how ironic is that :)
> PPP has a car with tube shocks !!

I think he should be forced to convert his Mini to Armstrong lever shocks!

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 11 08:37:13 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:37:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <30136586.1213195033939.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't think that Spridgets will have the rarity or monetary value to ever require a "Please Do Not Touch" sign.  These cars are still too plentiful - even Bugeyes.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 11, 2008 10:22 AM
>To: dmg at bossig.com
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
>
>I think I shared this story before, but I'll do it again, what the hell.
>Many years ago, Martha and I were at a car show in the 68 and 65 Sprites. We
>were on the far side of the 65, away from the 68, sitting in the shade. I
>was watching a father and his 13 or 14 year old son, looking at the 68. The
>son stands next to the drivers side, with his elbow hovering above the
>windscreen, just barely not touching. Father is lining up the camera for a
>shot, when I stand up and ask them what they think they are doing.
>Father tells me that the son wanted a photo near the car. I proceed to tell
>him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car. I get the door open,
>set him behind the wheel, get his arm up on the door and wing window, like
>he's out cruising. Dad gets a photo, and that kid left with the biggest grin
>you ever did see.
>
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and ignore the
>> comments of the Hoi Polloi
>>
>> My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can touch me",
>> and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat
>>
>> Dave G.
>>
>> On 11 Jun 2008 at 8:48, Lester wrote:
>> >> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
>> >> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
>> >> it just a waste of the judges time?
>> >>
>> >> Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 08:45:01 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:45:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
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	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <91C4EF04-634C-4EBB-8DAB-5162EF18EB45@comcast.net>

Ok but I buy the first round.  We found at one of the SAAB  
conventions the the bar was willing to open early if we only asked.   
Of course that was the year that temp records were set on all of the  
days of the convention so that NOTHING happened outside until dark  
and by then we didn't care what happened..

Lester


On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Peter C wrote:

> At 08:48 AM 6/11/2008, Lester wrote:
>> Maybe I should put my question this way:
>>
>> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
>> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
>> it just a waste of the judges time?
>>
>> Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
>>
>> Lester
> ======================
> Lester,
>         I'm bringing my car. It is a 1964 with a 1380, hardtop  
> permanently attached, un-original seats, wood dash, small wheels,  
> tube shocks, and front wheel drive!
>
>
>         I'll join you in the bar......
>
>
> Peter C.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 08:47:17 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806102211t16dd25a3n878eca5b6386cd17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E35FF7@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<484F2813.8000200@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102211t16dd25a3n878eca5b6386cd17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <949393E1-CA55-466E-958A-6EF6DD5E419F@comcast.net>

.. and are you bringing one of the good flare tools, the ones made in  
Merry 'ol??

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux  
> has also
> volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions.  
> Schedule wise,
> Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June  
> 29th while
> the God fearing are in church  ;-)
> Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's  
> call...  He's
> in charge of the tech.....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session  
>>> at LOTO
>>> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable  
>>> vise for
>>> the demo
>>>
>>
>> I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's
>> anywhere around.
>> Or maybe Jim has one.
>> Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed  
>> trailer with a
>> mounted vise that will be ther.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 11 08:58:20 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:58:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <30136586.1213195033939.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <30136586.1213195033939.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <484F859C.26710.35D01F@dmg.bossig.com>

You need to be in my part of the country...
'50's - '60's  Chevy's, Mustangs, Camaros, Rice Burners, .... you get the 
picture..!!

On 11 Jun 2008 at 10:37, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

>> I don't think that Spridgets will have the rarity or monetary value to
>> ever require a "Please Do Not Touch" sign.  These cars are still too
>> plentiful - even Bugeyes.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Wed Jun 11 09:00:44 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:00:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <949393E1-CA55-466E-958A-6EF6DD5E419F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Actually the flare kit is a PLEWS brand that I bought from NAPA about 15
years ago.  It cost about $50 then.  It works well for me but a couple
of cheapies that I tried (from Horrible Freight and Sears) weren't worth
a *#&%.
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Lester [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:47 AM
Cc: Frank Clarici; Spridgets; Brashear, Jack, N
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION

.. and are you bringing one of the good flare tools, the ones made in
Merry 'ol??

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux
> has also
> volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions.
> Schedule wise,
> Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June
> 29th while
> the God fearing are in church  ;-)
> Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's
> call...  He's
> in charge of the tech.....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session
>>> at LOTO
>>> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable
>>> vise for
>>> the demo
>>>
>>
>> I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's
>> anywhere around.
>> Or maybe Jim has one.
>> Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed
>> trailer with a
>> mounted vise that will be ther.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net
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>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 09:02:07 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:02:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <91C4EF04-634C-4EBB-8DAB-5162EF18EB45@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611090411.039b0bf0@nosimport.com>
	<91C4EF04-634C-4EBB-8DAB-5162EF18EB45@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806110802p3011d1cao46dfd8bd031cce30@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, apparently some explanation is required here.  The car show is judging
by your peers.  Everyone will have a ballot and you select the car you like
best in each category (see the trophies list on the website) for whatever
reason you like it. Maybe you have a thing for oil leaks - then you use that
as your criteria!!  (In which case I win!!).  Whatever.  None of the
organizers wanted to micro-manage car judging criteria so there are no pros
or cons for what your car should or should not have on it. It's just 4 hours
of tire kicking and lying under the trees in the state park. Enjoy.  Don't
stress.  Sorry Peter...  No class for Minis....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/11/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Ok but I buy the first round.  We found at one of the SAAB
> conventions the the bar was willing to open early if we only asked.
> Of course that was the year that temp records were set on all of the
> days of the convention so that NOTHING happened outside until dark
> and by then we didn't care what happened..
>
>
> Lester
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Peter C wrote:
>
> > At 08:48 AM 6/11/2008, Lester wrote:
> >> Maybe I should put my question this way:
> >>
> >> Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
> >> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
> >> it just a waste of the judges time?
> >>
> >> Would it be better to sit back and sleep or something ??
> >>
> >> Lester
> > ======================
> > Lester,
> >         I'm bringing my car. It is a 1964 with a 1380, hardtop
> > permanently attached, un-original seats, wood dash, small wheels,
> > tube shocks, and front wheel drive!
> >
> >
> >         I'll join you in the bar......
> >
> >
> > Peter C.
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 11 09:03:13 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:03:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611100039.039b1a98@nosimport.com>

At 09:17 AM 6/11/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and ignore the
>comments of the Hoi Polloi
>
>My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can touch me",
>and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat
>
>Dave G.
Actually Dave, I think you want the hoi polloi, it's the hoity toity 
you may eschew...


... at least I do.

         Peter C.

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 11 09:20:49 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:20:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611100039.039b1a98@nosimport.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>,
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611100039.039b1a98@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <484F8AE1.29382.4A6885@dmg.bossig.com>

Peter,

On 11 Jun 2008 at 10:03, Peter C wrote:
>> Actually Dave, I think you want the hoi polloi, it's the hoity toity
>> you may eschew...

You're probably right;-))
But I can't eschew very well without my partial  <BFGT>

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 09:45:48 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:45:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <D5E4F2BE-DED2-499A-9A76-05717072D08F@comcast.net>

if I remember (I have CRS) I will bring the really neat one for you  
to put hands on.  It's not perfect but damn it's good.  I too have  
gone through 3 or 4 sets of the cheapie $ 25 ones from Autozone etc.

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:00 AM, Brashear, Jack, N wrote:

> Actually the flare kit is a PLEWS brand that I bought from NAPA  
> about 15
> years ago.  It cost about $50 then.  It works well for me but a couple
> of cheapies that I tried (from Horrible Freight and Sears) weren't  
> worth
> a *#&%.
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lester [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:47 AM
> Cc: Frank Clarici; Spridgets; Brashear, Jack, N
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
>
> .. and are you bringing one of the good flare tools, the ones made in
> Merry 'ol??
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux
>> has also
>> volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions.
>> Schedule wise,
>> Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June
>> 29th while
>> the God fearing are in church  ;-)
>> Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's
>> call...  He's
>> in charge of the tech.....
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>> On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session
>>>> at LOTO
>>>> on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable
>>>> vise for
>>>> the demo
>>>>
>>>
>>> I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's
>>> anywhere around.
>>> Or maybe Jim has one.
>>> Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed
>>> trailer with a
>>> mounted vise that will be ther.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frank Clarici
>>> Toms River, NJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
>> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
>> 2008!!
>> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net
>>
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>>
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 09:50:00 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:50:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611100039.039b1a98@nosimport.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611100039.039b1a98@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <9EEF2A14-D81F-4F40-AD7E-DF6E5E6762EF@comcast.net>

Wait.. isn't Hoi Polloi the one that's stir fried with cashews and  
broccoli??
;-)

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Peter C wrote:

> At 09:17 AM 6/11/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>> I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and  
>> ignore the
>> comments of the Hoi Polloi
>>
>> My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can  
>> touch me",
>> and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat
>>
>> Dave G.
> Actually Dave, I think you want the hoi polloi, it's the hoity  
> toity you may eschew...
>
>
> ... at least I do.
>
>         Peter C.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 11 10:11:28 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:11:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <9EEF2A14-D81F-4F40-AD7E-DF6E5E6762EF@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34EE6CEC9E6C393D683304B8B20@phx.gbl>

I really hope not?  :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoi_polloi


----Original Message Follows----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>

Wait.. isn't Hoi Polloi the one that's stir fried with cashews and
broccoli??
;-)

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Peter C wrote:

 > At 09:17 AM 6/11/2008, Dave G. wrote:
 >> I think the idea is to have fun, show off what you've done, and
 >> ignore the
 >> comments of the Hoi Polloi
 >>
 >> My car usually has a sign in the windshield that reads "You can
 >> touch me",
 >> and I always let the kids sit in the drivers' seat
 >>
 >> Dave G.
 > Actually Dave, I think you want the hoi polloi, it's the hoity
 > toity you may eschew...
 >
 >
 > ... at least I do.
 >
 >         Peter C.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 11 10:14:55 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:14:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
Message-ID: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>

Has 4 hours to go and no bids.

I thought it had 1 bid when I originally looked at it?

Item number: 170224988542

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 11 10:30:49 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:30:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <cdc.2d6395d9.358157b9@aol.com>

Who won the best modified car at Sprite Jubillee?  Enquiring minds  want to 
know!
 
 
In a message dated 11/06/2008 02:14:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

at  Sprite Jubilee, Most 
people vote for the the nicer cars, many vote for  their own cars
I think cause there were 1 or 2 votes for several cars that  were just 
OK. But the winning Bugeye deserved it and they did win by a  landslide. 
MKIIs were real close because the competition was close, and I  know both 
1st and 2nd place winners personally, they both are list members  and it 
was a tough call. MKIII was a hands down as was  MKIV.

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed Jun 11 10:34:55 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:34:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <484FFEAF.9000205@cox.net>

It did but the bidder retracted it stating he could not contact the seller.

Now it has another bid.

Paul

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Has 4 hours to go and no bids.
>
> I thought it had 1 bid when I originally looked at it?
>
> Item number: 170224988542

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed Jun 11 10:45:01 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:45:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI - Performance/Race tires
In-Reply-To: <484FDEBE.8010609@lehigh.edu>
References: <484FDEBE.8010609@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <4850010D.1060405@cox.net>

Okay, John, how did you get them for $60 +15 when the eBay auction BIN 
is $79+15?


He took a Best Offer of $60+15?


Inquiring minds want to know!  ;^)


Paul Herder

66 Sprite

Sedgwick, KS



John Caffrey wrote:

> I saw a message on the vintage list two days ago for Yokohama Advan A048 
> DOT race tires in our size, 185/60-13, and for a great price of $49 +$15 
> shipping each. Yesterday one person bought all 1000 tires. They were 
> recently discontinued, but he found another warehouse full, and this 
> morning I bought a set at $60 each. They look like a very good option to 
> the Hoosiers at $161, and I thought I would pass it on before they are 
> gone. Ebay Item number: 260248659380, or http://www.yournexttire.com/
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
> _______________________________________________

From pelliott at innercite.com  Wed Jun 11 10:46:36 2008
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:46:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <949393E1-CA55-466E-958A-6EF6DD5E419F@comcast.net>
	<2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <004e01c8cbe2$b8ce3bb0$e5e7670a@edgewireless.com>

Good tool source.

http://tinyurl.com/3hdrae

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Brashear, Jack, N
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:01 AM
To: Lester
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION

Actually the flare kit is a PLEWS brand that I bought from NAPA about 15
years ago.  It cost about $50 then.  It works well for me but a couple of
cheapies that I tried (from Horrible Freight and Sears) weren't worth a
*#&%.
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Lester [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:47 AM
Cc: Frank Clarici; Spridgets; Brashear, Jack, N
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION

.. and are you bringing one of the good flare tools, the ones made in Merry
'ol??

Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux
> has also
> volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions.
> Schedule wise,
> Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June 29th 
> while the God fearing are in church  ;-)
> Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's
> call...  He's
> in charge of the tech.....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/10/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Brashear, Jack, N wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frank, a couple of months back I offered to do a tech session at 
>>> LOTO on flaring brake pipes.  I mentioned that I would need a stable 
>>> vise for the demo
>>>
>>
>> I had a vise, a spare, I have to go dig in the garage to see if it's 
>> anywhere around.
>> Or maybe Jim has one.
>> Heck, I'll ask the whole list, maybe someone has an enclosed trailer 
>> with a mounted vise that will be ther.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 
> 2008!!
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 11:34:24 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:34:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
In-Reply-To: <004e01c8cbe2$b8ce3bb0$e5e7670a@edgewireless.com>
References: <949393E1-CA55-466E-958A-6EF6DD5E419F@comcast.net>
	<2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FB15@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<004e01c8cbe2$b8ce3bb0$e5e7670a@edgewireless.com>
Message-ID: <A4E73132-0E9C-4B7D-93D5-CBD6A572F54E@comcast.net>

For brake flaring this is even better.. maybe.. have to see 'em both.

http://store.fedhillusa.com/007bbrakelineflaringtool.aspx

Lester


On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Pat wrote:

> Good tool source.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3hdrae
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Brashear, Jack, N
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 8:01 AM
> To: Lester
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
>
> Actually the flare kit is a PLEWS brand that I bought from NAPA  
> about 15
> years ago.  It cost about $50 then.  It works well for me but a  
> couple of
> cheapies that I tried (from Horrible Freight and Sears) weren't  
> worth a
> *#&%.
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lester [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 9:47 AM
> Cc: Frank Clarici; Spridgets; Brashear, Jack, N
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRAKE PIPE FLARE TECH SESSION
>
> .. and are you bringing one of the good flare tools, the ones made  
> in Merry
> 'ol??
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> I don't got one that I can easily bring....   Gerard Chateauvieux
>> has also
>> volunteered to do a tech session on disk brake conversions.
>> Schedule wise,
>> Jack's and Gerard's sessions would be best on Sunday morning June  
>> 29th
>> while the God fearing are in church  ;-)
>> Either that or we double them up on Saturday...   ??   Frank's
>> call...  He's
>> in charge of the tech.....
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim

From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 11 12:01:30 2008
From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Guys,
&nbsp;
All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me VERY jealous.&nbsp; I'm in Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around, plus I have two MK IV's.&nbsp; There are no groups, meetings, ralleys, shows nothing.
&nbsp;
Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know of a contact up here??
&nbsp;
Jim in Homer Alaska

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed Jun 11 12:09:38 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:09:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <C232A72F-7C2A-41B7-A289-ECD05891913F@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
	<C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>
	<C232A72F-7C2A-41B7-A289-ECD05891913F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8DFA0FA2-79D6-4F07-80AA-97E7BA441DBF@mac.com>

Lester,

My guess is that today you will not get the same type of performance  
because of the difference in the gas.  I am not sure if even the  
octane boosters would really help.  The only way I can  think of to  
do an valid performance check today would be to do a dyno tune up of  
the car prior to installing the Judson and then after the Judson was  
installed.

There is an article by Brian Thornton in the June issue of "Healey  
Marque" (AHCA magazine) where he did acceleration test prior to and  
after installing a Judson and compared that to Judsons advertised  
times.  His times were slower than those advertised and he improved  
his stock vs blower times by about 10%.  This was not done on a test  
track or with timing lights however.  Nice article and a nice car.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Lester wrote:

> it is now obvious that mine is not functioning correctly..  sigh...

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Jun 11 12:13:00 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:13:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FYI - Performance/Race tires
In-Reply-To: <4850010D.1060405@cox.net>
References: <484FDEBE.8010609@lehigh.edu> <4850010D.1060405@cox.net>
Message-ID: <485015AC.4010508@lehigh.edu>

I called the toll free number and told him I wanted to buy the tires for 
the $49 +15 price but I sat on it for two days. He had several calls 
like that, and he offered me that price because he is having to pay more 
for the new batch. It might still work?
John
Fogelsville, PA

Paul Herder wrote:
> Okay, John, how did you get them for $60 +15 when the eBay auction BIN 
> is $79+15?
>
>
> He took a Best Offer of $60+15?
>
>
> Inquiring minds want to know!  ;^)
>
>
> Paul Herder
>
> 66 Sprite
>
> Sedgwick, KS
>
>
>
> John Caffrey wrote:
>
>> I saw a message on the vintage list two days ago for Yokohama Advan 
>> A048 DOT race tires in our size, 185/60-13, and for a great price of 
>> $49 +$15 shipping each. Yesterday one person bought all 1000 tires. 
>> They were recently discontinued, but he found another warehouse full, 
>> and this morning I bought a set at $60 each. They look like a very 
>> good option to the Hoosiers at $161, and I thought I would pass it on 
>> before they are gone. Ebay Item number: 260248659380, or 
>> http://www.yournexttire.com/
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>> _______________________________________________

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 11 12:55:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:55:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
Message-ID: <bfc.3943d1d4.358179b2@aol.com>

Hi Jim,
 
History in the making.  
 
I tell everyone that I know Spridget people in every state in the USA  except 
Alaska.  Well, I guess I can't say that anymore.  
 
The MkIV Sprite 1969/80 is my favourite though the finer points from  earlier 
years like the quarter like catches are so nice I put them on my  69.  Maybe 
the list need to do an O.S.H.I.T to Alaska?  
 
Regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 11/06/2008 19:05:50 GMT Daylight Time,  
oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com writes:

Hi  Guys,
&nbsp;
All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me  VERY jealous.&nbsp; I'm 
in Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around,  plus I have two MK 
IV's.&nbsp; There are no groups, meetings, ralleys,  shows nothing.
&nbsp;
Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know  of a contact up here??
&nbsp;
Jim in Homer  Alaska

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 12:57:21 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:57:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Autocross / Judson and 5 speed questions
In-Reply-To: <8DFA0FA2-79D6-4F07-80AA-97E7BA441DBF@mac.com>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
	<C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>
	<C232A72F-7C2A-41B7-A289-ECD05891913F@comcast.net>
	<8DFA0FA2-79D6-4F07-80AA-97E7BA441DBF@mac.com>
Message-ID: <854E4562-AE4D-449B-BE31-D637BCC5FA5D@comcast.net>

That would jive with the "butt dyno" 'm using..  if the install  
wasn't so good looking...  ;-)  hmm.. maybe time to put the carbs  
back on..



Lester

On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Lester,
>
> My guess is that today you will not get the same type of performance
> because of the difference in the gas.  I am not sure if even the
> octane boosters would really help.  The only way I can  think of to
> do an valid performance check today would be to do a dyno tune up of
> the car prior to installing the Judson and then after the Judson was
> installed.
>
> There is an article by Brian Thornton in the June issue of "Healey
> Marque" (AHCA magazine) where he did acceleration test prior to and
> after installing a Judson and compared that to Judsons advertised
> times.  His times were slower than those advertised and he improved
> his stock vs blower times by about 10%.  This was not done on a test
> track or with timing lights however.  Nice article and a nice car.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Lester wrote:
>
>> it is now obvious that mine is not functioning correctly..  sigh...
> _______________________________________________
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 13:08:01 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:08:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line diameter and routing??
In-Reply-To: <854E4562-AE4D-449B-BE31-D637BCC5FA5D@comcast.net>
References: <520D3BDAD6D74DA0A50A5B7FD4276265@midget>
	<414A7FC9-2BDE-4684-85CA-C58037852503@comcast.net>
	<905E63D685DD421F80A725FFC6A69263@midget>
	<41309D92-C911-4EA0-96EC-0708F7E199C8@comcast.net>
	<B6A61C50CC7F4C57AFF104B53EAA8008@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<89434D31-6E51-4B63-B40C-C394AC46C906@comcast.net>
	<02625C23-2F9A-4FCB-A9E5-1E2D12EAA691@mac.com>
	<72CC5E23-0F36-4101-84E0-FF3751181F72@comcast.net>
	<C20D352A-4624-4D02-A5BC-8659580B3E42@mac.com>
	<C232A72F-7C2A-41B7-A289-ECD05891913F@comcast.net>
	<8DFA0FA2-79D6-4F07-80AA-97E7BA441DBF@mac.com>
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Message-ID: <33EC66B5-D3AC-4F85-A187-62014C182F0D@comcast.net>

So, speaking of putting the carbs back on, what diameter is the hard  
fuel line?

and the routing is:

Along the passenger side of the floor held in by the doohickeys up to  
the front crossmember,

Across front crossmember from pass to driver's side

Back towards carb


.. and then what?  A special bend to get to the carb?  Several bends??

Thanks all,

Lester

.. no more mention of the Judson until after LotO


On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Lester wrote:

> That would jive with the "butt dyno" 'm using..  if the install
> wasn't so good looking...  ;-)  hmm.. maybe time to put the carbs
> back on..
>
>
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 1:09 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
>> Lester,
>>
>> My guess is that today you will not get the same type of performance
>> because of the difference in the gas.  I am not sure if even the
>> octane boosters would really help.  The only way I can  think of to
>> do an valid performance check today would be to do a dyno tune up of
>> the car prior to installing the Judson and then after the Judson was
>> installed.
>>
>> There is an article by Brian Thornton in the June issue of "Healey
>> Marque" (AHCA magazine) where he did acceleration test prior to and
>> after installing a Judson and compared that to Judsons advertised
>> times.  His times were slower than those advertised and he improved
>> his stock vs blower times by about 10%.  This was not done on a test
>> track or with timing lights however.  Nice article and a nice car.
>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> 2000 Miata Special Edition

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 11 14:33:39 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:33:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  That NICE ebay Bugeye
Message-ID: <000e01c8cc02$6f186610$6601a8c0@shop>

SOMEBODY in N.E. NEEDS to save it!!!!  Tad more than 1/2 hr !!!! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ed's Shop 
To: healeys at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: Fw: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye


Anybody in NY area lookin' for a project??  NFI, blah, blah....
----- Original Message ----- 
From:  
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 10:14 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye


Has 4 hours to go and no bids.

I thought it had 1 bid when I originally looked at it?

Item number: 170224988542

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 14:17:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
	<681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806111317i44475a34t97ebbe6f646ab11b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Jim,

Nothing to stop you from coming to Lake of the Ozarks!  I ran the Alaskan
Highway on a motorcycle a couple years ago at age 60. Surely a Spridget can
make it.  If not, they have trailers in Alaska, don't they?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/11/08, James Lempe <oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me VERY jealous.  I'm in
> Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around, plus I have two MK IV's.  There
> are no groups, meetings, ralleys, shows nothing.
>
> Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know of a contact up here??
>
> Jim in Homer Alaska
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 11 14:35:15 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:35:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <EB53CE76E3A0423F972E87C2E89F0B37@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <751485.98818.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree. Take it to the show. Most of the time i take my Morris i am the only one. Every one seems to love telling a story and looking at the car. If you have not seen my car. It is a daily driver that the PO painted by spray cans. Looks ok from 15ft and in pictures. I go for my own enjoyment. I like seeing how people do other things to there car for ideas too. Most of all it is talking to others who are interested in British cars. I have even made a few new friends who live close by.. 

  Vigil
  SoCal

David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
  > Is there any reason for a car with a 5sp tranny, an Aussie boot
> badge, carpet, Judson, and Moss air ducting to enter the show or is
> it just a waste of the judges time?

Since it is NOT a judged show, but rather an event voted on by your peers, I 
think you should enter the show. A wel-engineered and executed front-tilt 
bonnet conversion would be a plus in my eyes (since I am intending to go 
around photographing those so that I can decide how I want to do mine). 
Rather than thinking of it as a car show, think of it as a great parking 
place from which to go around and admire everybody else's Spridget. Besides, 
what higher goal in life is there than to waste the time of a bunch of 
concours judges?
David Lieb 
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 15:36:47 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:36:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
	<681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806111436q6e265d67t9fdd79da856fa8e5@mail.gmail.com>

Jim,

Sorry, don't know of any up your way.

A friend of mine lost his son there at the 'Spit'. Harrison was his name.
Pictures of him hanging above the bar if I remember correctly.

You have a fantastic State....  Keep the "lefties" out!!!

Herb
Grants Pass, Oregon.  A State that USED to be fantastic!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 15:53:17 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:53:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
>  I proceed to tell
> him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car. 
>
>
>
>   
I do that all the time at the local cruise nights. Little cars and 
little kids are like magnets.
I let the kids sit in the car and Mom or Dad takes the picture.
Everybody is happy. Let em beep the horn too!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 15:55:08 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:55:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <cdc.2d6395d9.358157b9@aol.com>
References: <cdc.2d6395d9.358157b9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <485049BC.8070209@comcast.net>

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Who won the best modified car at Sprite Jubillee?  Enquiring minds 
> want to know!
>  
Yes, I do have a lovely chrome camshaft mounted on a nice piece of wood 
because I had what the judge thought was the best modified Sprite.
Thanks you Daniel, THAT sure beats any other plaque on the walls in my 
office.
Before this award, I was most proud of my hill climb award in 
Breckenridge, Colorado from 1992.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 11 16:00:24 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:00:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
Message-ID: <cfb.3562120c.3581a4f8@aol.com>

I think the judge knew his stuff!
 
In a message dated 11/06/2008 22:56:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

I had  what the judge thought was the best modified Sprite

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 11 17:16:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:16:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop>

Somebody got REAL lucky folks.  $605.50 !!

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 11 16:25:04 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:25:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
	<00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com>

At 06:16 PM 6/11/2008, Ed's Shop wrote:
>Somebody got REAL lucky folks.  $605.50 !!


Yeah....the seller.


PPP 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 16:30:33 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:30:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com>
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
	<00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806111530t1988877bv26d35ffb69303425@mail.gmail.com>

Agree, Peter.  It looked like a money-pit to me....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/11/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> At 06:16 PM 6/11/2008, Ed's Shop wrote:
> >Somebody got REAL lucky folks.  $605.50 !!
>
>
>
> Yeah....the seller.
>
>
> PPP
>
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 11 17:49:58 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:49:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl><00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop><7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806111530t1988877bv26d35ffb69303425@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>

<< It looked like a money-pit to me....>>

Add you hourly worth to what YOU have in YOUR car Jim, and then TRY to tell us your car is NOT also one!?!?!?  LMAO

Name one that is not!!!

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 11 17:04:23 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:04:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>,
	<013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <484FF787.15346.1F2D03A@dmg.bossig.com>

I do not think of my beast as a "Money Pit"

I think of it as a long term savings account that just happens to have a 
negative APR!

Dave G.

On 11 Jun 2008 at 17:49, Ed's Shop wrote:
>> Name one that is not!!!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 11 20:55:15 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:55:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <cfb.3562120c.3581a4f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <019d01c8cc37$be280320$6601a8c0@shop>

<<I think the judge knew his stuff!>>

MORE likely the "Judge" had "knowledge" of the car's Owner propensity for liking/using    NAIL-GUNS    and that:
a] said Owner is from Joisey
PLUS 
b] last name ends with    " i ", 

Westlake1330 !!!!!



LOL

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 20:17:21 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:17:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <bfc.3943d1d4.358179b2@aol.com>
References: <bfc.3943d1d4.358179b2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8F18B820-80A0-4DB0-80DC-1092370CC54F@phillymgclub.com>

I'd be up for that, I like Alaska, but only saw it from the coast.  
Theresa says she's coming along. Homer is near Seward ain't it?? She  
is sitting here reminiscing about Alaska whilst I type.

Larry

On Jun 11, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> History in the making.
>
> I tell everyone that I know Spridget people in every state in the  
> USA  except
> Alaska.  Well, I guess I can't say that anymore.
>
> The MkIV Sprite 1969/80 is my favourite though the finer points  
> from  earlier
> years like the quarter like catches are so nice I put them on my   
> 69.  Maybe
> the list need to do an O.S.H.I.T to Alaska?
>
> Regards
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
>
> In a message dated 11/06/2008 19:05:50 GMT Daylight Time,
> oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com writes:
>
> Hi  Guys,
> &nbsp;
> All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me  VERY  
> jealous.&nbsp; I'm
> in Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around,  plus I have two MK
> IV's.&nbsp; There are no groups, meetings, ralleys,  shows nothing.
> &nbsp;
> Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know  of a contact up here??
> &nbsp;
> Jim in Homer  Alaska
>

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.







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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 11 20:27:31 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806111436q6e265d67t9fdd79da856fa8e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <684394.68550.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think this seriously cries for a road trip to Alaska
next summer.

I'll be in Brazil as I've known for quite some time.
Will be missing LOTO and now leaving Saturday the 21st
instead of Sunday the 22nd, so I'm missing Peter's
daughter's graduation as well. I can't blow off Brazil
- lots of people depending upon it.


--- WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Sorry, don't know of any up your way.
> 
> A friend of mine lost his son there at the 'Spit'.
> Harrison was his name.
> Pictures of him hanging above the bar if I remember
> correctly.
> 
> You have a fantastic State....  Keep the "lefties"
> out!!!

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 20:37:32 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:37:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <684394.68550.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <684394.68550.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <340AE17F-6F1E-4B9F-AE18-702189725A4F@phillymgclub.com>

I'm not

Anon

On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> - lots of people depending upon it.

--  

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".



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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 20:53:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:53:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
References: <684394.68550.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3D3FC4BEC02F4BF3AFA2A0635DBB2359@midget>

> I'll be in Brazil as I've known for quite some time.

I think you will need a translator... Should I get a passport?
Unfortunately, I don't know any of the Portuguese words for any of the 
things you do. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 21:00:18 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:00:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl>
	<00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0806111530t1988877bv26d35ffb69303425@mail.gmail.com>
	<013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806112000n11328962x2ddbf7f3bdafcade@mail.gmail.com>

True enough...   But mine is a driver and was when I bought it so I haven't
put as much into it as one would have needed just to get the BE  drivable!
That thing needs *major* bucks just to get it running!  Of course, that
applies more to someone like me than someone who can do all the work
themselves   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/11/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
> << It looked like a money-pit to me....>>
>
> Add you hourly worth to what YOU have in YOUR car Jim, and then TRY to tell
> us your car is NOT also one!?!?!?  LMAO
>
> Name one that is not!!!
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Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Jun 11 21:17:17 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:17:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That NICE ebay Bugeye
References: <BAY112-F352C7781785B1B7FDD15DFB8B20@phx.gbl><00bd01c8cc19$28fe43e0$6601a8c0@shop><7.0.1.0.2.20080611172436.03abb1f0@nosimport.com><43840a7e0806111530t1988877bv26d35ffb69303425@mail.gmail.com><013a01c8cc1d$dc0c2340$6601a8c0@shop>
	<43840a7e0806112000n11328962x2ddbf7f3bdafcade@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5F98C8DC79642AB95B0638E765393D7@midget>

> True enough...   But mine is a driver and was when I bought it so I 
> haven't
> put as much into it as one would have needed just to get the BE  drivable!
> That thing needs *major* bucks just to get it running!  Of course, that
> applies more to someone like me than someone who can do all the work
> themselves   ;-)

OK, one more time...
Spridgets are for DRIVING, not for selling. The only way to reliably get a 
return on your "investment" is to drive the car. If you want to make money 
on it, the last thing you want to do is to waste any time or money on it to 
"fix it up". Either you find someone with more money than brains and infect 
him with the dream, or you don't. If he/she falls in love with the car, you 
might not lose your shirt... UNLESS you spent time and money on it. Have fun 
using the car the way it was intended and you will stop feeling like the car 
owes you anything.
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 11 22:17:45 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:17:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
References: <684394.68550.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<340AE17F-6F1E-4B9F-AE18-702189725A4F@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <029801c8cc43$449d3e10$6601a8c0@shop>

<<I'm not
Anon
On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
> - lots of people depending upon it.>>

er Anon (copycat Macy), the PRIMARY folks Ron is talking about ARE his Family!!!!

Sorta importent, IMVHO !!!

<G>(right !!!)

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed Jun 11 22:42:51 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:42:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <4850A94B.4040301@smarc.net>

Anyone happen to know the proper size for oil pan bolts? Hate to buy a 
whole set just to get one...

-- 

Marc

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 11 22:49:37 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:49:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001301c8cc47$b84fa1f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Hey man...There is nothing wrong with cars that have been painted with a 
roller!
I guess I am going to have to prove it too you...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets Group Chat" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..


> The red car wins, even if it looks like it was painted with a roller. :)

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 23:43:57 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:43:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <8F18B820-80A0-4DB0-80DC-1092370CC54F@phillymgclub.com>
References: <bfc.3943d1d4.358179b2@aol.com>
	<8F18B820-80A0-4DB0-80DC-1092370CC54F@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4850B79D.8050101@gmail.com>

Might be able to drive to that one, or much more likely quicker by boat
or float plane.

-g

Larry Macy wrote:
> I'd be up for that, I like Alaska, but only saw it from the coast.  
> Theresa says she's coming along. Homer is near Seward ain't it?? She  
> is sitting here reminiscing about Alaska whilst I type.
>
> Larry
>
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> History in the making.
>>
>> I tell everyone that I know Spridget people in every state in the  
>> USA  except
>> Alaska.  Well, I guess I can't say that anymore.
>>
>> The MkIV Sprite 1969/80 is my favourite though the finer points  
>> from  earlier
>> years like the quarter like catches are so nice I put them on my   
>> 69.  Maybe
>> the list need to do an O.S.H.I.T to Alaska?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> W E S L A K E 1330
>>
>> In a message dated 11/06/2008 19:05:50 GMT Daylight Time,
>> oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> Hi  Guys,
>> &nbsp;
>> All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me  VERY  
>> jealous.&nbsp; I'm
>> in Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around,  plus I have two MK
>> IV's.&nbsp; There are no groups, meetings, ralleys,  shows nothing.
>> &nbsp;
>> Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know  of a contact up here??
>> &nbsp;
>> Jim in Homer  Alaska

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 12 01:21:46 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:21:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <340AE17F-6F1E-4B9F-AE18-702189725A4F@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <998782.77890.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This one's big. 30 or 40,000 skilled us blue collar
jobs, creation of a new US university, a way to
balance trade with China and India in REAL
industry....even the UnaLarry might get a trickle
down.

--- Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> I'm not
> 
> Anon
> 
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Ron Soave wrote:
> 
> > - lots of people depending upon it.
> 
> --  
> 
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
> 
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
> 
> Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
> Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
> http://mg2008.com
> 
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
> 
> 
> "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the
> intention of  
> arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body,
> but to skid in  
> sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly
> used up, totally  
> worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".
> 
> 
> 
>
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 06:19:18 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:19:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Not just for summer anymore!
Message-ID: <061220081219.21565.48511446000A9D530000543D2216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

OK guys.  No need to ever put up you LBCs for the winter anymore.  Check out this:

http://www.classic-british-cars.com/gallery/gal01106.jpg

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Thu Jun 12 07:47:59 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <4850A94B.4040301@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FD9E@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Hey Marc, I use 1/4-28.  Don't know if that's original or not but that's
what I've been using on A series engines for over 40 years.  Just
remember that there are (I think) two different lengths.  The longer is
for the thru-tapped holes and the shorter is for the blind-tapped holes.
Seems like the longer were originally 5/8" long and they are kinda tough
to find at your corner hardware store.  Sooooo, I use 3/4" and just live
with it.
Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Marc
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:43 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size

Anyone happen to know the proper size for oil pan bolts? Hate to buy a
whole set just to get one...

--

Marc

From ricksnover at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 12 08:44:22 2008
From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:44:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
	<681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1K6o2I-0003pA-S3@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Don't know of any other Spridgets up there, but there was a couple in 
Anchorage with a Big Healey - they were members of our club (?!?) for 
a couple years. The didn't renew, so I don't know if their email 
address is still good, but if you'ld like it let me know.

Rick

At 11:01 AM 6/11/2008, James Lempe wrote:
>All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me VERY jealous. 
>I'm in Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around, plus I have two 
>MK IV's. There are no groups, meetings, ralleys, shows, nothing.
>
>Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know of a contact up here??
>
>Jim in Homer Alaska

--
Rick Snover, San Diego
'59 Speedwell Sprite (VARA EP #17)
'64 Sprite Mk III 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 08:58:19 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:58:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>
	<4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A0AFA616-9D55-4FD5-A4BC-AC3DA756DB2B@comcast.net>

So beeping the horn won't let all the smoke out?  There is always  
sooo much to learn on this list!! ;-)

Lester

.. Frank, how much are you going to charge for "diagnostic drives"  
where you tell me what that damn funny noise is??


On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
>>  I proceed to tell
>> him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I do that all the time at the local cruise nights. Little cars and
> little kids are like magnets.
> I let the kids sit in the car and Mom or Dad takes the picture.
> Everybody is happy. Let em beep the horn too!
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 09:03:11 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:03:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <11012084.1213032468511.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <11012084.1213032468511.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430806120803i7250d48dw1db02fe7996ad49e@mail.gmail.com>

Mike, Donna & Spridgets,
Is this the hardtop you describe? If so it is called Warwick and yes made by
Healey. It will fit the square MKII & III as well as the Bugeye although
looks best on the MKII or MKIII (windowless side curtain square body
Sprites). I've been looking for one for 2 years ever since saw one on a
square body Sprite while I read several articles on the Healey Co. and so
far I only found one in the UK. Unfortunately even though it was on eBay the
owner wouldn't let me bid because I couldn't pick it up. From what I've
heard these Warwicks will sell for approximately $1500. if you can even find
one although I am determined to own one so I'll just have to save up and
keep looking. I think the one in the UK (needed lots of work) sold for
around $400. to $600. US dollars even with shipping overseas it would have
been a great deal. They are so cool : )
Happy motoring,
Linda

Sorry you all can't see the image, but if interested I'll send it to those
interested. I can't seem to find the website for it I only have a pict file.

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Hey you Spridgeteers,
>
> Does anyone know who or is the owner of the iris blue '63 Sprite with very
> rare Healey hardtop that raced at VIR last weekend?  The hardtop was really
> neat and the Sprite was excellent.  I beautiful car with the right period
> size tires.
>
> Mike C
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 12 09:25:11 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:25:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <6253228.1213284311828.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

   Hi Linda,

   Yep,  that  is it.  I have to say that the top looks excellent on a MK
   II Sprite!  I would like to get a hold of one also.  I wonder how many
   were made?

   Mike C

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Linda Grunthaner
     Sent: Jun 12, 2008 11:03 AM
     To: Mike/Donna Carpenter
     Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
     Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
     Mike, Donna & Spridgets,
     Is  this  the  hardtop you describe? If so it is called Warwick and
     yes  made  by  Healey. It will fit the square MKII & III as well as
     the  Bugeye  although  looks  best on the MKII or MKIII (windowless
     side  curtain square body Sprites). I've been looking for one for 2
     years  ever  since  saw  one  on  a square body Sprite while I read
     several  articles  on the Healey Co. and so far I only found one in
     the UK. Unfortunately even though it was on eBay the owner wouldn't
     let  me  bid  because  I  couldn't pick it up. From what I've heard
     these  Warwicks  will sell for approximately $1500. if you can even
     find  one  although I am determined to own one so I'll just have to
     save up and keep looking. I think the one in the UK (needed lots of
     work)  sold for around $400. to $600. US dollars even with shipping
     overseas it would have been a great deal. They are so cool : )
     Happy motoring,
     Linda
     Sorry  you  all can't see the image, but if interested I'll send it
     to those interested. I can't seem to find the website for it I only
     have a pict file.
     62 California Sprite "Pinky"
     www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

   On   Mon,   Jun   9,   2008   at   1:27   PM,   Mike/Donna   Carpenter
   <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

     Hey you Spridgeteers,
     Does  anyone  know  who or is the owner of the iris blue '63 Sprite
     with  very rare Healey hardtop that raced at VIR last weekend?  The
     hardtop  was really neat and the Sprite was excellent.  I beautiful
     car with the right period size tires.
     Mike C

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 12 10:06:48 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values
Message-ID: <894DA5177B224BA68AFFACC7AF8136A6@Home>

I have not been looking for a Bugeye for various reasons I have mention in the past.  But there is one for sale within 10 miles of my house, the first I have seen close enough for a casual checkout since I started looking at Spridgets many months ago.  I don't yet know its condition, although it appears cosmetically reasonable in photos and is a licensed driver.  The car is located in Mercedes/Ferrari country, where people don't usually get their hands dirty, and I don't think he has had any bidders.  

Given my experience with "Rusty Rip-off" and sequillae, I really don't need another car.  But there is a possibility that this one could be a bargain if no one is bidding and he wants to unload it.  I see a lot of high prices online, but few sales above $8000, some as low as $4000.  What constitutes a bargain for a daily driver and how can I judge that?  (I already know how to recognize a rip-off in pretty paint.)

I expect to go see it on Sunday and will have pictures and more information.  Anyone willing to advise please contact me off list.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Jun 12 10:24:28 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:24:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218C3@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Woopie!  Work's over and I'm off to Blackhawk Farms for the 50th
Anniversary Spridget Reunion Races!

See ya Monday!

From midget at maxengland.com  Thu Jun 12 10:37:38 2008
From: midget at maxengland.com (Max Slegers)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:37:38 +0200
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values
In-Reply-To: <894DA5177B224BA68AFFACC7AF8136A6@Home>
References: <894DA5177B224BA68AFFACC7AF8136A6@Home>
Message-ID: <485150D2.8030902@maxengland.com>

Hi Michael,

I heard it was far more difficult to repair the front hanger of the rear 
suspension on a Bugeye than on a Spridget, so that might be a place to 
check carefully.

Max
http://www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget



Michael Rowe a icrit :
> I have not been looking for a Bugeye for various reasons I have mention in the past.  But there is one for sale within 10 miles of my house, the first I have seen close enough for a casual checkout since I started looking at Spridgets many months ago.  I don't yet know its condition, although it appears cosmetically reasonable in photos and is a licensed driver.  The car is located in Mercedes/Ferrari country, where people don't usually get their hands dirty, and I don't think he has had any bidders.  
>
> Given my experience with "Rusty Rip-off" and sequillae, I really don't need another car.  But there is a possibility that this one could be a bargain if no one is bidding and he wants to unload it.  I see a lot of high prices online, but few sales above $8000, some as low as $4000.  What constitutes a bargain for a daily driver and how can I judge that?  (I already know how to recognize a rip-off in pretty paint.)
>
> I expect to go see it on Sunday and will have pictures and more information.  Anyone willing to advise please contact me off list.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 12 10:40:13 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:40:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218C3@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <00e701c8ccaa$fd6ced20$6401a8c0@Larry>

Bring your rain gear, John.  It is pouring here now and it looks like it 
will continue thru mid-day tomorrow.

http://www.weather.gov/forecasts/graphical/sectors/uppermissvly.php?element=MaxT

Oh, well, we needed the rain -- NOT.

See you Saturday.

Larry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk


Woopie!  Work's over and I'm off to Blackhawk Farms for the 50th
Anniversary Spridget Reunion Races!

See ya Monday!
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 11:03:17 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:03:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Not just for summer anymore!
In-Reply-To: <061220081219.21565.48511446000A9D530000543D2216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
References: <061220081219.21565.48511446000A9D530000543D2216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430806121003g55c635darb46cadc34d824889@mail.gmail.com>

David,
I love that picture : )
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:19 AM, <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:

> OK guys.  No need to ever put up you LBCs for the winter anymore.  Check
> out this:
>
> http://www.classic-british-cars.com/gallery/gal01106.jpg
>
> --David C.
> WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 11:11:10 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:11:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806111317i44475a34t97ebbe6f646ab11b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net>
	<681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0806111317i44475a34t97ebbe6f646ab11b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806121011o501e9542k333c37e15c3111c3@mail.gmail.com>

Cool Jim,
So There is still hope for me to ride my cycle in Alaska or maybe cross
country : )
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Jim,
>
> Nothing to stop you from coming to Lake of the Ozarks!  I ran the Alaskan
> Highway on a motorcycle a couple years ago at age 60. Surely a Spridget can
> make it.  If not, they have trailers in Alaska, don't they?  ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/11/08, James Lempe <oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > All this talk about 50th get togeathers is making me VERY jealous.  I'm
> in
> > Alaska and may have the only Bug Eye around, plus I have two MK IV's.
>  There
> > are no groups, meetings, ralleys, shows nothing.
> >
> > Is there anyone out there from Alaska or know of a contact up here??
> >
> > Jim in Homer Alaska
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>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 12 11:25:06 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:25:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <d5f.2f1581a0.3582b5f2@aol.com>

Hi Lynda,
 
What you have to do is find a UK biddder and also someone in the UK who can  
collect and store the item and then ship it to the USA.
 
I've done quite a lot of UK bidding for folk in the USA and they've done  the 
same for me.  However, I can't collect any big items as my only car is  a 
Sprite.
 
regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 12/06/2008 16:03:41 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

Unfortunately even though it was on eBay the
owner wouldn't let me  bid because I couldn't pick it up

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 12 12:38:31 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:38:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net><681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<E1K6o2I-0003pA-S3@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <010101c8ccbb$83f6cf40$6601a8c0@shop>

<<but there was a couple in Anchorage with a Big Healey - they were members of our club (?!?) for a couple years.>>

Pics of Graham's car are still on my site, Rick !! From '05.  S.P. & S.C
->Big Healeys.  2nd down on left.

Jim in Homer (and the rest of ya'll & as David will recall) the is NO reason for you to NOT take part in LotO !!!

http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm

It would actually be a "short" trip, Jim !!!! Right David???  <VBG>

Ed

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 11:38:57 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>
	<4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430806121038x462363d4jf9e8cb285ae973cf@mail.gmail.com>

I just love that guys : )

Lin

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
> >  I proceed to tell
> > him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I do that all the time at the local cruise nights. Little cars and
> little kids are like magnets.
> I let the kids sit in the car and Mom or Dad takes the picture.
> Everybody is happy. Let em beep the horn too!
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun 12 11:54:00 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:54:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
Message-ID: <18014357.407021213293240785.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web01-z02>

Does anyone know if the Sussex, WI show is still on?  Might be a little spongy on the grass hill...


Chris
---- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> Bring your rain gear, John.  It is pouring here now and it looks like it 
> will continue thru mid-day tomorrow.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Jun 12 12:02:01 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:02:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net><681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><E1K6o2I-0003pA-S3@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<010101c8ccbb$83f6cf40$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <D723BD972D664B498C9C6882E3D4C33C@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Jim in Homer (and the rest of ya'll & as David will recall) the is NO 
> reason for you to NOT take part in LotO !!!
>
> http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm
>
> It would actually be a "short" trip, Jim !!!! Right David???  <VBG>

Yeah, especially since you don't HAVE to go from Chicago to Alaska by way of 
Texas... 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 13:09:48 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:09:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Drive Safely!
Message-ID: <061220081909.26464.4851747C0006BEAA000067602215567074C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Here is why I keep my Midget off the Interstate!  (Open Attachment).

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of accident7.JPG]

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Jun 12 13:47:35 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:47:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Contrast
Message-ID: <6t8l1l$42hglq@email.mtu.edu>

I was reading the local newspaper and noticed an upcoming car event. 
It is quite a contrast to the events planned for LotO. I just can't 
picture a bunch of Spridget folks doing this. Here's a few lines from 
the paper:

"Rubber will burn and motors roar as the Rodbenders CarFest hits the 
streets of Coleman Friday.
     The annual car show's Friday evening "burnout" is what car owner 
Steve Miller called something like a beauty contest for cars. Some 
30-40 cars are lined up along Railway Street to burn rubber while 
standing still, rev their motors and please the crowd."

Maybe Spridget folks still have too many of their own teeth?? LOL


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 15:12:20 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:12:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Contrast
In-Reply-To: <6t8l1l$42hglq@email.mtu.edu>
References: <6t8l1l$42hglq@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806121412o493c4608sea61964790c96065@mail.gmail.com>

That's why I have a 'line-lock' and carry a bucket of bleach water in the
trunk! (so I can fit in with the big boys)
Herb

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Timothy H. Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
wrote:

> I was reading the local newspaper and noticed an upcoming car event.
> It is quite a contrast to the events planned for LotO. I just can't
> picture a bunch of Spridget folks doing this. Here's a few lines from
> the paper:
>
> "Rubber will burn and motors roar as the Rodbenders CarFest hits the
> streets of Coleman Friday.
>     The annual car show's Friday evening "burnout" is what car owner
> Steve Miller called something like a beauty contest for cars. Some
> 30-40 cars are lined up along Railway Street to burn rubber while
> standing still, rev their motors and please the crowd."
>
> Maybe Spridget folks still have too many of their own teeth?? LOL
>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 15:25:09 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:25:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Contrast
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806121412o493c4608sea61964790c96065@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6t8l1l$42hglq@email.mtu.edu>
	<2ad6c6b10806121412o493c4608sea61964790c96065@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B6B39DBB-B5F1-4BEB-9DA2-890CFECDFFAE@comcast.net>

Pffft..  bleach water..  I mean where are you going to put the  
hydraulics for the suspension bounce ?!

Lester

On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> That's why I have a 'line-lock' and carry a bucket of bleach water  
> in the
> trunk! (so I can fit in with the big boys)
> Herb
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Timothy H. Collins  
> <thcollin at mtu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> I was reading the local newspaper and noticed an upcoming car event.
>> It is quite a contrast to the events planned for LotO. I just can't
>> picture a bunch of Spridget folks doing this. Here's a few lines from
>> the paper:
>>
>> "Rubber will burn and motors roar as the Rodbenders CarFest hits the
>> streets of Coleman Friday.
>>     The annual car show's Friday evening "burnout" is what car owner
>> Steve Miller called something like a beauty contest for cars. Some
>> 30-40 cars are lined up along Railway Street to burn rubber while
>> standing still, rev their motors and please the crowd."
>>
>> Maybe Spridget folks still have too many of their own teeth?? LOL
>>
>>
>> Tim Collins
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 12 15:46:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
In-Reply-To: <18014357.407021213293240785.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web01-z02>
Message-ID: <169649.14902.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Not at the track at the moment after some tow-vehicle
hijinx with Porasik's Suburban, but I was there
earlier, it's wet everywhere. Jeff pulled over on I90
because of rain and tornadoes, and then his starter
crapped out. After using my favorite tool (BFH), we
got it to go, then brought it to my neighbor's NAPA
shop. We're paddocked over near the old tech barn,
entire area corded off for Jeff, me, Deikis, and Don
"Professor Whoopee" Shelton in his P-1800. Bill Dalton
is there, brought lots of guitars and stuff. The band
(now named "The Free Radicals", I believe) should
sound awesome in the new tech barn. Come on down - 

Ron

--- cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:

> Does anyone know if the Sussex, WI show is still on?
>  Might be a little spongy on the grass hill...
> 
> 
> Chris
> ---- Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> > Bring your rain gear, John.  It is pouring here
> now and it looks like it 
> > will continue thru mid-day tomorrow

From leavcast at infomagic.net  Thu Jun 12 16:01:10 2008
From: leavcast at infomagic.net (George)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:01:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] rear hub question
Message-ID: <0C7AEF3F5A224486AB1B6A6FFC618C93@laptop>

While fixing a rear axle seal leak I discovered that I don't seem to have
the correct hubs.  My parts book says I should have 2A7087 hubs and I have 
2A7088 hubs.  The profile appears wrong for the seals that I have.

Three questions:
Any problem with using the 2A7088 hubs on my sprite?
Who makes a good 2A7087 hub?
What was the 2A7088 used on?

George Castleberry
59 AN5
54 BN1
Flagstaff, AZ

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Jun 12 16:59:54 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:59:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 67 mkIII part out
Message-ID: <200806122259.m5CMxspK005595@berna.ucdavis.edu>

Long story short, the car cannot be registered and is being parted out.  I
got the Sebring bonnet (YES!!).  Remaining are the front disc set-up, a 3.9
diff, 1275 that runs w/ribcase(bad). Doors, windscreen dash and lastly,

a virtually rust free 1967 MkIII tub.

e-mail me for the guy's phone number.  He lives in Marysville CA and is
willing to rip-n-ship the wanted bits.

Unfortunately, I can't get the bonnet in shape in time for LoO, dang!

Glen

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 12 18:29:04 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:29:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <D723BD972D664B498C9C6882E3D4C33C@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <BC01D6CD-2D39-46DE-867A-EB5C019C808D@comcast.net><681386.61739.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><E1K6o2I-0003pA-S3@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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	<D723BD972D664B498C9C6882E3D4C33C@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <14B0A5DD-E1AF-4407-9270-68435234A777@phillymgclub.com>

I remember that story Brit Run to the Sun. I followed along every day.  
It was a sad day when Dick crashed.

Larry

On Jun 12, 2008, at 2:02 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Jim in Homer (and the rest of ya'll & as David will recall) the is NO
>> reason for you to NOT take part in LotO !!!
>>
>> http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm
>>
>> It would actually be a "short" trip, Jim !!!! Right David???  <VBG>
>
> Yeah, especially since you don't HAVE to go from Chicago to Alaska  
> by way of
> Texas...
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Jun 12 19:27:32 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:27:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
Message-ID: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      with all the recent flooding in Cedar Rapids and vicinity .. and
      the tornado that hit mid-iowa...

      i heard a blip about there being a 3 day delay on i-80? we'll be
      leaving the interesate somewhere around Lincoln Nebraska, but
      plan on heading up I-29 to Cedar Rapdis/Sioux Falls to go
      home...

      any word on road condtions.?. .. heading out in just over ONE
      WEEK! ... we're still a comin', just wonderin' 'bout the route
      we've been plannin'

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Can't learn to do it well? Learn to enjoy doing it badly! 

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 20:05:47 2008
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:05:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <abb8688a0806121905w494f50e2ib16388068992af58@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings from Cedar Rapids.  My advice at this point is AVOID IOWA IF
AT ALL POSSIBLE.  Rivers and lakes are all above record crests and the
predictions just keep getting higher.  I 80 will almost certainly be
closed for a time.  Possibly into next week.

John
High and Dry, so far.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      with all the recent flooding in Cedar Rapids and vicinity .. and
>      the tornado that hit mid-iowa...
>
>      i heard a blip about there being a 3 day delay on i-80? we'll be
>      leaving the interesate somewhere around Lincoln Nebraska, but
>      plan on heading up I-29 to Cedar Rapdis/Sioux Falls to go
>      home...
>
>      any word on road condtions.?. .. heading out in just over ONE
>      WEEK! ... we're still a comin', just wonderin' 'bout the route
>      we've been plannin'
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  Can't learn to do it well? Learn to enjoy doing it badly!
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 12 21:13:15 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:13:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
References: <d5f.2f1581a0.3582b5f2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <02c501c8cd03$6c589600$6601a8c0@shop>

<<However, I can't collect any big items as my only car is  a Sprite.>>

Pray tell 1312, WHY could you NOT "collect" a Spridget Hardtop???

Enquiring minds and all that ?!?!?!

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 12 21:15:40 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:15:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
References: <169649.14902.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02cb01c8cd03$c293c800$6601a8c0@shop>

<<Come on down ->>

REALLY would love to Ron, etal BUT (besides WORK & PAIN) I have NO clue HOW I could possibly "come on down"!!  Yer NORTH of me?!?!?!??

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Jun 12 20:19:29 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:19:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
References: <169649.14902.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<02cb01c8cd03$c293c800$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <634E4C2DF1F24E71A95C9FF60F04D3C2@midget>

> <<Come on down ->>
>
> REALLY would love to Ron, etal BUT (besides WORK & PAIN) I have NO clue 
> HOW I could possibly "come on down"!!  Yer NORTH of me?!?!?!??

I guess you aren't a REAL southsider, Ed. To a real southsider, north IS 
down cause the the numbered streets get lower as you go north... 55th Street 
is north of 95th Street. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 20:22:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:22:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <001301c8cc47$b84fa1f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<484F273C.6020809@comcast.net>
	<001301c8cc47$b84fa1f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4851D9D2.3030603@comcast.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:
> Hey man...There is nothing wrong with cars that have been painted with 
> a roller!
> I guess I am going to have to prove it too you...
>
I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, it beats a brush ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Jun 12 20:25:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:25:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net><001301c8cc47$b84fa1f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<4851D9D2.3030603@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C61494660B15493F945B7A3DF6973ED1@midget>

>> Hey man...There is nothing wrong with cars that have been painted with
>> a roller!
>> I guess I am going to have to prove it too you...
>>
> I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, it beats a brush ;)

Also depends on the paint used. My uncle gave us a silver 1969 Malibu 
once... It came out the other end of the car wash as a blue Malibu. Latex 
house paint applied with a roller does not adhere real well. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 20:35:15 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:35:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Contrast
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806121412o493c4608sea61964790c96065@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6t8l1l$42hglq@email.mtu.edu>
	<2ad6c6b10806121412o493c4608sea61964790c96065@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4851DCE3.8040305@comcast.net>

WFO Herb wrote:
> That's why I have a 'line-lock' and carry a bucket of bleach water in the
> trunk! (so I can fit in with the big boys)
>
>   
Bleach water, man that's from the 50s and 60s.
Today we use Armourall! Just spray it on your tires and smoke em up!!!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Jun 12 20:40:26 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:40:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>

Hello,

         OOOPS.. got to lookin' at the map... i was thinkin' that
         Cedar Rapids was across the river from Sioux Falls... that
         must be Council Bluffs?..... anyway... not taking 1-80 across
         Iowa.. just TO Iowa... lets hope nebraska doesn't flood cuz
         we're a comin'

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I won't tell you anything about my salivary glands," said Tom secretively.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 12 21:24:31 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:24:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
	<82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>

It's getting rather damp here in WI, too.  The end of my block has knee-high 
water.  The local newspaper has been showing pictures of motorboats running 
down the city streets.  Not quite as romantic as Venice, though.

If you saw on CNN the lake who's damn burst and emptied the lake along with 
many of the houses on it's shore, that was not far from Peter C.'s place.

My office is 2 blocks from the river that empties out a 15 mile by 30 mile 
lake.  That's a lot of water.  My house is just a couple blocks farther from 
the river a few miles downstream, but much higher.  I'm crossing fingers 
these days.  The water in the lake and river is supposed to peak by Sunday. 
I'm wondering what I will come home to from the races at Blackhawk this 
weekend.

How are the rest of you midwest guys faring?


LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I-80?


Hello,

         OOOPS.. got to lookin' at the map... i was thinkin' that
         Cedar Rapids was across the river from Sioux Falls... that
         must be Council Bluffs?..... anyway... not taking 1-80 across
         Iowa.. just TO Iowa... lets hope nebraska doesn't flood cuz
         we're a comin'

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I won't tell you anything about my salivary glands," said Tom 
secretively.
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Jun 12 21:31:22 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:31:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FD9E@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FD9E@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <AFC8FBD7-DF2B-46E2-9AFD-BC06F58E1083@mac.com>

That sounds correct.  With a couple of exceptions the Sprites were  
all ASA bolts and screws.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Brashear, Jack, N wrote:

> Hey Marc, I use 1/4-28.  Don't know if that's original or not but  
> that's
> what I've been using on A series engines for over 40 years.  Just
> remember that there are (I think) two different lengths.  The  
> longer is
> for the thru-tapped holes and the shorter is for the blind-tapped  
> holes.
> Seems like the longer were originally 5/8" long and they are kinda  
> tough
> to find at your corner hardware store.  Sooooo, I use 3/4" and just  
> live
> with it.
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces 
> +jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Marc
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:43 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>
> Anyone happen to know the proper size for oil pan bolts? Hate to buy a
> whole set just to get one...
>
> --
>
> Marc
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Jun 12 22:16:49 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:16:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <03d001c8cd0f$0a9e2900$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FD9E@glitas07.garverinc.local>
	<AFC8FBD7-DF2B-46E2-9AFD-BC06F58E1083@mac.com>
	<03d001c8cd0f$0a9e2900$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <40BF6C03-677F-486B-96E9-7A34A160ED19@mac.com>

Mouth in action before brain engaged.

American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>
> Huh, Bob??

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Jun 12 22:44:30 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:44:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] parts for Lake of the Ozarks.
In-Reply-To: <A0AFA616-9D55-4FD5-A4BC-AC3DA756DB2B@comcast.net>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806102205x400dc101j32061dd70f38e5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<66742ABA-05F4-44F5-96C1-0515609F37DB@comcast.net>
	<484F7C18.8054.10A6D1@dmg.bossig.com>
	<e98d88090806110722y46814401j2facc95f6cc73f45@mail.gmail.com>
	<4850494D.6060403@comcast.net>
	<A0AFA616-9D55-4FD5-A4BC-AC3DA756DB2B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003701c8cd10$2b2b7be0$818273a0$@net>

If someone going to LOTO has an NOS or even a used horn activator (goes in
the hole in the steering wheel and contacts the steering wheel plinth) and
wants to sell it could you please contact me/

Thanks
Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Lester
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:58 AM
Cc: Spridgets Chat Group
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..

So beeping the horn won't let all the smoke out?  There is always  
sooo much to learn on this list!! ;-)

Lester

.. Frank, how much are you going to charge for "diagnostic drives"  
where you tell me what that damn funny noise is??


On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
>>  I proceed to tell
>> him, if he wants a photo, he needs to be IN the car.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I do that all the time at the local cruise nights. Little cars and
> little kids are like magnets.
> I let the kids sit in the car and Mom or Dad takes the picture.
> Everybody is happy. Let em beep the horn too!
>
>
> -- 
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> Toms River, NJ
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 22:53:46 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:53:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603E6FD9E@glitas07.garverinc.local><AFC8FBD7-DF2B-46E2-9AFD-BC06F58E1083@mac.com><03d001c8cd0f$0a9e2900$6601a8c0@shop>
	<40BF6C03-677F-486B-96E9-7A34A160ED19@mac.com>
Message-ID: <004001c8cd11$771b6000$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Yea,  make sure you definitely specify  "ASMS 1/4-28"

Lord knows there are all sorts of other types of 1/4 -28 flying around out 
there...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at mac.com>
To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size


> Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>
> American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>
>> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>>
>> Huh, Bob??
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 23:29:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:29:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
	<82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>
	<01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806122229jfc6493fmbeb1691a1fdcb978@mail.gmail.com>

And here we sit...   2.5 inches below normal on rainfall in the 6th year of
a low level drought.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/12/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> It's getting rather damp here in WI, too.  The end of my block has
> knee-high
> water.  The local newspaper has been showing pictures of motorboats running
> down the city streets.  Not quite as romantic as Venice, though.
>
> If you saw on CNN the lake who's damn burst and emptied the lake along with
> many of the houses on it's shore, that was not far from Peter C.'s place.
>
> My office is 2 blocks from the river that empties out a 15 mile by 30 mile
> lake.  That's a lot of water.  My house is just a couple blocks farther
> from
> the river a few miles downstream, but much higher.  I'm crossing fingers
> these days.  The water in the lake and river is supposed to peak by Sunday.
> I'm wondering what I will come home to from the races at Blackhawk this
> weekend.
>
> How are the rest of you midwest guys faring?
>
>
> LAD
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I-80?
>
>
> Hello,
>
>          OOOPS.. got to lookin' at the map... i was thinkin' that
>          Cedar Rapids was across the river from Sioux Falls... that
>          must be Council Bluffs?..... anyway... not taking 1-80 across
>          Iowa.. just TO Iowa... lets hope nebraska doesn't flood cuz
>          we're a comin'
>
> --
> Best regards,
>   Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>   '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>       * "I won't tell you anything about my salivary glands," said Tom
> secretively.
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 13 00:46:08 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Discovery
Message-ID: <988031.38695.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hello,

 I made a discovery when I started dissassembly for the 5 speed I'll be putting in shortly.  To give a little background on this, I've been having trouble with dieseling at operating temperature during shutoff since the get go.  I noticed that the exhaust manifold pipe connection has been leaking.  There's a black exhaust mark on the block and the flange showed leakage over 50% of the sealing surface.  The pipe and clamp were brand new when I installed them 2 years ago.  Would a leaky manifold connection cause dieseling?  I've decided to replace the manifold with the 3 stud design and toss the clamp manifold.  Sound logical?

Thanks,
Mike Rivers 
1961 MG Midget 1275

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 02:06:42 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:06:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] rear hub question
Message-ID: <c0e.32dce4aa.35838492@aol.com>

How can you be sure the hubs are wrong?  Often the number cast (like  in the 
hub) is 1 digit different from the part number used.
 
I thought a single rear hub was common across the BMC range with only stud  
length varying.
 
Regard
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 12/06/2008 23:01:59 GMT Daylight Time,  
leavcast at infomagic.net writes:

While  fixing a rear axle seal leak I discovered that I don't seem to have
the  correct hubs.  My parts book says I should have 2A7087 hubs and I have  
2A7088 hubs.  The profile appears wrong for the seals that I  have.

Three questions:
Any problem with using the 2A7088 hubs on my  sprite?
Who makes a good 2A7087 hub?
What was the 2A7088 used  on?

George Castleberry
59 AN5
54 BN1
Flagstaff,  AZ

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 02:10:44 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:10:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <c9e.2f257f07.35838584@aol.com>

I suppose if it was a dry day and I removed the soft top and the hard top  
was sufficiently intact to fit my 69 it might be possible.
 
However, I'm probably the only lister who have driven with a brand new  
bonnet lashed to the boot and rear roll bar to get it louvred and who couldn't  a
fford a rental car... Kindof awkward with no rear view visibility and no side  
mirrors.
 
I have a friend down the road who has a Land Rover and he does owe me a  
favour.
 
W E S L A K E 1330 (not 1312)
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 03:13:29 GMT Daylight Time,  shop at justbrits.com 
writes:

Pray  tell 1312, WHY could you NOT "collect" a Spridget Hardtop???

Enquiring  minds and all that ?!?!?!

<G>

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 13 06:21:50 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <23406879.1213359710453.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
>To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>
>Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>
>American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>
>Bob Kitterer
>
>1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
>On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>
>> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>>
>> Huh, Bob??


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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 13 06:43:24 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:43:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Discovery
In-Reply-To: <988031.38695.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <988031.38695.qm@web56005.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <15510278123.20080613054324@pacifier.com>

Hello Mike,


      this sounds perfectly logical.... As Paul A. taught me.. it
      takes three things to make a fire (or cause run on) .. Fuel,
      heat, Oxygen.. the fuel and heat are easy, its how Oxygen finds
      it way into the process that has to be located.. leaky exhaust
      connections are usually the culprit. it has nothing to do with
      "Spark Advance" or point settings, because the igntion is
      already OFF.. so the heat too, has to come from some place
      else!..

      coolness that you located it... ... but it may take machining to
      get the manifold to seal to the block... too bad you've been
      fighting it for so long... ..



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I was given a shampoo and trim by a Pakistani in Liverpool," said Tom in Urdu.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Fri Jun 13 07:01:20 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:01:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
Message-ID: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>

Hey Jim,

Are you responsible for the LotO weather?  Got a good long term forecast?

Mark
Nashville
http://www.ArrestMeRed.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 13 07:11:33 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:11:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40A4841D0646B71B796D97B8AC0@phx.gbl>

Bob Soave ???

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
Reply-To: Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Bob Soave" 
<rsoave at fkl.telusa.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:15:40 -0600

<<Come on down ->>

REALLY would love to Ron, etal BUT (besides WORK & PAIN) I have NO clue HOW 
I could possibly "come on down"!!  Yer NORTH of me?!?!?!??

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 07:12:11 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:12:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <061320081312.24850.4852722B00055EF9000061122215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Ahhh--that's a fine line.  I think technically it would be a screw, even though, as we Americans have been taught to think, it doesn't have a slot or Phillips receiver, isn't pointed, and isn't conical.  

I found this on the net:   "Old SAE and USS standards made a distinction between a bolt and a cap screw based on whether a portion of the shaft was un-threaded or not. Cap screws had shafts that were threaded up to the head and bolts had partially threaded shafts. Today a bolt that has a completely threaded shaft might be referred to as a tap bolt."

"ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."

So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above description of a "screw".     8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
> It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).
> 
> Mike C
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
> >Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
> >To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
> >
> >Mouth in action before brain engaged.
> >
> >American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
> >
> >Bob Kitterer
> >
> >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> >2000 Miata Special Edition
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
> >
> >> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
> >>
> >> Huh, Bob??
> 
> 
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jun 13 07:33:58 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:33:58 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <23406879.1213359710453.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002101c8cd5a$22f1c5c0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Mike,
Technically, if the thread is full length, then it is a Machine Screw, not a
bolt!

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Mike/Donna Carpenter
Sent: 13 June 2008 13:22
To: Kitterer Bob; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size


It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
>To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>
>Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>
>American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>
>Bob Kitterer
>
>1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
>On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>
>> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>>
>> Huh, Bob??


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun 13 07:56:06 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:56:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
References: <061320081312.24850.4852722B00055EF9000061122215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B665FB6B406045E5BB0FE92E4A5B90BE@NilesAD.von.gov>

> "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed 
> for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally 
> intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
>
> So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be 
> called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not 
> have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my 
> way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above 
> description of a "screw".     8^)

But what is the ASME definition of a screw? It almost sounds like screw is 
asuperset of bolt. 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 13 07:56:18 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <3084742.1213365378613.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

That is why I said it with a grin ;^)).  You knew what I was after. 

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net
>Sent: Jun 13, 2008 9:12 AM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>, Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>
>Ahhh--that's a fine line.  I think technically it would be a screw, even though, as we Americans have been taught to think, it doesn't have a slot or Phillips receiver, isn't pointed, and isn't conical.  
>
>I found this on the net:   "Old SAE and USS standards made a distinction between a bolt and a cap screw based on whether a portion of the shaft was un-threaded or not. Cap screws had shafts that were threaded up to the head and bolts had partially threaded shafts. Today a bolt that has a completely threaded shaft might be referred to as a tap bolt."
>
>"ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
>
>So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above description of a "screw".     8^)
>
>--David C.
>WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
>> It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).
>> 
>> Mike C
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>> >Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
>> >To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>> >
>> >Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>> >
>> >American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>> >
>> >Bob Kitterer
>> >
>> >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> >2000 Miata Special Edition
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>> >
>> >> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>> >>
>> >> Huh, Bob??
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________________


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From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Fri Jun 13 07:58:14 2008
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:58:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye hardtop
Message-ID: <20080613135818.04F8822DEF4@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net>

Any body going to LOTO that has a Bugeye hardtop to sell. ?
I would be interested.
 
Herb Miller
hgmiller3 at qwest.net

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jun 13 08:04:11 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:04:11 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <B665FB6B406045E5BB0FE92E4A5B90BE@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <002f01c8cd5e$5b9aca30$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

ASME definition is irrelevant as it is a UNC thread. It is British car, why
would it have American machine screws (or American bolts) ?

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: 13 June 2008 14:56
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size


> "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed
> for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally
> intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
>
> So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be
> called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not
> have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my
> way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above
> description of a "screw".     8^)

But what is the ASME definition of a screw? It almost sounds like screw is
asuperset of bolt.
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Fri Jun 13 08:11:01 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:11:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <C61494660B15493F945B7A3DF6973ED1@midget>
References: <6E3EF2C9-4D98-4C96-B6AB-F7CA70AE6282@comcast.net><484F273C.6020809@comcast.net><001301c8cc47$b84fa1f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2><4851D9D2.3030603@comcast.net>
	<C61494660B15493F945B7A3DF6973ED1@midget>
Message-ID: <092e01c8cd5f$4fd38ab0$1801010a@xp>

Now that's funny.  Any chance it was used in a bank robbery? 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:26 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..

>> Hey man...There is nothing wrong with cars that have been painted 
>> with a roller!
>> I guess I am going to have to prove it too you...
>>
> I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, it beats a brush ;)

Also depends on the paint used. My uncle gave us a silver 1969 Malibu
once... It came out the other end of the car wash as a blue Malibu. Latex
house paint applied with a roller does not adhere real well. 
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 13 08:14:09 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:14:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
	<82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>
	<01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613090704.03a12308@nosimport.com>

As of this morning, I90-94 is closed westbound from Madison North 
(sounds dumb, but look at a map) of Mauston. I94 westbound from 
Milwaukee to Madison detoured. Big DOT dump trucks full of heavy 
stuff parked on the bridge over the Crawfish River to hold it down. 
Serious. Smaller roads closed all over. D.U.C.K.S. from the Dells 
evacuating people from Baraboo river area. Several dams have let go. 
The houses that y'all probably saw on the news have now made it down 
past our house. Need a couch?

Jim, I WAS thinking of taking the River Roads to LoTO.... might have 
to detour through Arizona.

Peter C.


At 10:24 PM 6/12/2008, Larry Daniels wrote:
>It's getting rather damp here in WI, too.  The end of my block has knee-high
>water.  The local newspaper has been showing pictures of motorboats running
>down the city streets.  Not quite as romantic as Venice, though.
>
>If you saw on CNN the lake who's damn burst and emptied the lake along with
>many of the houses on it's shore, that was not far from Peter C.'s place.
>
>My office is 2 blocks from the river that empties out a 15 mile by 30 mile
>lake.  That's a lot of water.  My house is just a couple blocks farther from
>the river a few miles downstream, but much higher.  I'm crossing fingers
>these days.  The water in the lake and river is supposed to peak by Sunday.
>I'm wondering what I will come home to from the races at Blackhawk this
>weekend.
>
>How are the rest of you midwest guys faring?
>
>
>LAD
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I-80?
>
>
>Hello,
>
>          OOOPS.. got to lookin' at the map... i was thinkin' that
>          Cedar Rapids was across the river from Sioux Falls... that
>          must be Council Bluffs?..... anyway... not taking 1-80 across
>          Iowa.. just TO Iowa... lets hope nebraska doesn't flood cuz
>          we're a comin'
>
>--
>Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403

From apexshot at att.net  Fri Jun 13 08:16:54 2008
From: apexshot at att.net (James Coppage)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 07:16:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans
Message-ID: <508917.40233.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have a Datsun Trans for sale not sure if its a 4-5 speed, check with Kate never been apart
  I am asking $600.00 plus shipping I live in Redding Ca. area. 
   
  Jim

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 13 09:19:31 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:19:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>

http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html


Peetr C

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 09:32:23 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:32:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613090704.03a12308@nosimport.com>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
	<82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>
	<01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080613090704.03a12308@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806130832i394819dy2b71c86122f73cc1@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/13/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> Big DOT dump trucks full of heavy
> stuff parked on the bridge over the Crawfish River to hold it down.


Hopefully it works better there then it did in Cedar Rapids, Iowa where they
ran train cars with "rock ballast" out on a railroad bridge in hopes of
keeping it from being swept away.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Bridge-collapses-in-Iowa-floodwaters-/1213363300.html

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 09:39:18 2008
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:39:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I-80?
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0806130832i394819dy2b71c86122f73cc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <183441634.20080612182732@pacifier.com>
	<82212274.20080612194026@pacifier.com>
	<01bd01c8cd04$ff528320$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080613090704.03a12308@nosimport.com>
	<8de85a9c0806130832i394819dy2b71c86122f73cc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abb8688a0806130839h3e79df22l487445a11bb74db5@mail.gmail.com>

Said train cars are still on said bridge, now at the bottom of the
river.  Some are speculating that the sunken bridge may be acting as a
partial dam, making the flooding here in Cedar Rapids even worse.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Jethro <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/13/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>>
>> Big DOT dump trucks full of heavy
>> stuff parked on the bridge over the Crawfish River to hold it down.
>
>
> Hopefully it works better there then it did in Cedar Rapids, Iowa where they
> ran train cars with "rock ballast" out on a railroad bridge in hopes of
> keeping it from being swept away.
> http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/Bridge-collapses-in-Iowa-floodwaters-/1213363300.html
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 09:39:49 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:39:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>

Nobody is *responsible* for the weather other than the creator! Only
charlatans tell people they can give accurate weather predictions more than
5 days in advance.  ;-)

Right now it is a bit too early for any kind of specifics. I will start
putting together an outlook in a few days and send it out to the lists and
to registered attendees.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Jim,
>
> Are you responsible for the LotO weather?  Got a good long term forecast?
>


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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
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From smarc at smarc.net  Fri Jun 13 09:39:52 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:39:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <485294C8.8050706@smarc.net>

Don't think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda cool

Marc



Peter C wrote:
> http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
>
>
> Peetr C
> _______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 09:46:42 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <485294C8.8050706@smarc.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
	<485294C8.8050706@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806130846g10d5e972k78e5f118bf0fd057@mail.gmail.com>

What in the world is sticking out from under the driver's side dog leg?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
> Don't think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda cool
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Peter C wrote:
> > http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
> >
> >
> > Peetr C
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
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From smarc at smarc.net  Fri Jun 13 09:49:14 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:49:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <485296FA.8080903@smarc.net>

Uh, look at the pictures he DIDN'T post...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0938.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0939.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0940.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0941.jpg

There are more - just change increment the number on the IMG_09xx part 
of the link...

Marc



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>
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From smarc at smarc.net  Fri Jun 13 09:49:28 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:49:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <48529708.90506@smarc.net>

Uh, look at the pictures he DIDN'T post...

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0938.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0939.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0940.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0941.jpg

There are more - just change increment the number on the IMG_09xx part 
of the link...

Marc



Peter C wrote:
> http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
>
>
> Peetr C
> _______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 13 09:57:13 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re:  Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613105603.0399cc90@nosimport.com>

Aaln  had this to say......

--------
>From: "Alan" <frogeye at cox.net>
>To: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
>
>Peter,
>I sold that gent his car several years ago and know allot about it.
>We talked yesterday.
>If anyone is interested in it, I can inspect and report back
>Alan
>I better post a note to the list..just incase or you can for me
>Regards
>
>Alan in RI
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
>To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:19 AM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
>
>
>>http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
>>
>>Peetr C

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 10:00:46 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:00:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <48529708.90506@smarc.net>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
	<48529708.90506@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806130900v35d2e54ibd43d6ed3677ee8c@mail.gmail.com>

The bloody T-shirt says it all!  I always have to give a little blood when
working on the midget!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
> Uh, look at the pictures he DIDN'T post...
>
> http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0938.jpg
> http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0939.jpg
> http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0940.jpg
> http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s301/endoffraudxx/MG/IMG_0941.jpg
>
> There are more - just change increment the number on the IMG_09xx part
> of the link...
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Peter C wrote:
>
> > http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
> >
> >
> > Peetr C
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Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Jun 13 10:03:40 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:03:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <061320081603.15350.48529A5C000A2AD600003BF622216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

"It has a new sound system, shaved door handles with electric poppers, reverse hood,..."

What more could you ask for?

PS What's that fountain pen sticking out of the RRear Quarter?

PPS This statement doesn't jive with his email address "I've done tons of work"  (endoffraudxx at yahoo.com)

Oh well, back to my water dish.

  -------------- Original message from Peter C <peter at nosimport.com>: --------------


> http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 13 10:09:19 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:09:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806130846g10d5e972k78e5f118bf0fd057@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40DD72C8BD13BA74421C99B8AC0@phx.gbl>

A Mini header ???  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
CC: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:46:42 -0500

What in the world is sticking out from under the driver's side dog leg?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
 >
 > Don't think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda cool
 >
 > Marc
 >
 >
 >
 > Peter C wrote:
 > > http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
 > >
 > >
 > > Peetr C
 > > _______________________________________________
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Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 10:18:17 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:18:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size*
Message-ID: <061320081618.23438.48529DC90000DEF400005B8E2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Nope, not irrelevant since we are looking at the definition of a "screw" vs. a "bolt".  This is one definition, among several, that defines a bolt as having a "nut".  We are not talking about the thread size.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
> ASME definition is irrelevant as it is a UNC thread. It is British car, why
> would it have American machine screws (or American bolts) ?
> 
> Guy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
> Of David Lieb
> Sent: 13 June 2008 14:56
> To: Spridget List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
> 
> 
> > "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed
> > for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally
> > intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
> >
> > So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be
> > called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not
> > have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my
> > way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above
> > description of a "screw".     8^)
> 
> But what is the ASME definition of a screw? It almost sounds like screw is
> asuperset of bolt.
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 10:20:31 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:20:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <061320081620.689.48529E4F00039282000002B12215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Here:   This seems to be a pretty good discussion of the definitions.  

http://euler9.tripod.com/bolt-database/boltdef.html

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> > "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed 
> > for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally 
> > intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
> >
> > So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be 
> > called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not 
> > have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my 
> > way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above 
> > description of a "screw".     8^)
> 
> But what is the ASME definition of a screw? It almost sounds like screw is 
> asuperset of bolt. 
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From hal at katemuir.com  Fri Jun 13 10:43:19 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:43:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..
In-Reply-To: <092e01c8cd5f$4fd38ab0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEBFHGAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Or perhaps a political asassination?
Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Heard
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 7:11 AM
To: 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO meet show questions..


Now that's funny.  Any chance it was used in a bank robbery? 

From bkitterer at mac.com  Fri Jun 13 10:48:34 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:48:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <23406879.1213359710453.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <23406879.1213359710453.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <ABA9E858-0BE1-468E-9529-CA5DB756F9F0@mac.com>

True, but ASMS includes all screw/bolt head shapes up to 3/4 inch.   
Now we all really want to know this huh  :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 13, 2008, at 5:21 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

> It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).
>
> Mike C
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>> Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
>> To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>>
>> Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>>
>> American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>>
>>> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>>>
>>> Huh, Bob??
>
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Fri Jun 13 10:54:41 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:54:41 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Cover
Message-ID: <20080613.095441.23032.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

I am in need of a timing cover for my '67 1275.  The oil seperator broke off
(seperated!) and in the course of moving, got lost.  Can anyone help?

Also, is the spridget-tech list still active?  I was on it several years ago.

Clay L.


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 10:56:57 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:56:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080613101843.03a10600@mailbag.com><485294C8.8050706@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0806130846g10d5e972k78e5f118bf0fd057@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <014801c8cd76$7e329ba0$6401a8c0@Larry>

That does look like an exhaust outlet (can't really call it a tailpipe, can 
you?)  Nicely placed where it can gas the driver.  Good thinking.

The yellow nylon rope holding the bonnet from crashing over to the ground is 
a nice touch.





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI


What in the world is sticking out from under the driver's side dog leg?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
> Don't think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda cool
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> Peter C wrote:
> > http://providence.craigslist.org/car/712674010.html
> >
> >
> > Peetr C
> > _______________________________________________
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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
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You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 11:00:26 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:00:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015101c8cd76$fac293f0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Gee whiz, Jim.  Our weathermen (they should have stayed underground) can't 
give tomorrow's prediction accurately.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO


Nobody is *responsible* for the weather other than the creator! Only
charlatans tell people they can give accurate weather predictions more than
5 days in advance.  ;-)

Right now it is a bit too early for any kind of specifics. I will start
putting together an outlook in a few days and send it out to the lists and
to registered attendees.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/13/08, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>
> Hey Jim,
>
> Are you responsible for the LotO weather?  Got a good long term forecast?
>


-- 
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Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 13 11:33:45 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:33:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
References: <c9e.2f257f07.35838584@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007401c8cd7b$a1dfcf50$01fea8c0@C600>

Amateur!  I've carried nine bales of hay home on mine.  A few days later I
met a lady at a thrift store that loaded a king size water bed (complete),
two pre-teen kids, and was stopping on her way home to get groceries.

Kate
>
> However, I'm probably the only lister who have driven with a brand new
> bonnet lashed to the boot and rear roll bar to get it louvred and who
couldn't  a
> fford a rental car

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri Jun 13 11:40:14 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:40:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Innocenti 950 Spider
Message-ID: <003A6CE5-C3FB-49A7-8588-66894BA95120@gerardsgarage.com>

Jay,

I sent the message below to your private email address, but it was  
rejected "Delivery failed
550 type79 at ix.netcom.com...User account is unavailable"

You can reply to me off list if you prefer.

Anybody else know???

Thanks

Gerard


Hi Jay,

I have a request from Italy for a rebuilt master cylinder for an  
Innocenti 950 Spider. Can you please confirm for me that is has the  
same MC as the early 7/8" bore MC's like the Bugeye. I believe only  
the body varies on the Innocenti and that all the running gear is the  
same, but want to make sure.

Thanks!

Gerard

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 13 11:50:43 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:50:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans
References: <508917.40233.qm@web83720.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00aa01c8cd7e$00ceb7e0$01fea8c0@C600>

It is a five speed, of the correct series (I confirmed this with Paul A.),
and when I drove the car home it shifted very smoothly.  I had planned to
put it in my own car, but our house sold and we didn't have room to bring it
with us.

Kate


> I have a Datsun Trans for sale not sure if its a 4-5 speed, check with
Kate never been apart
>   I am asking $600.00 plus shipping I live in Redding Ca. area.
>
>   Jim
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jun 13 13:24:16 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:24:16 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size*
In-Reply-To: <061320081618.23438.48529DC90000DEF400005B8E2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002c01c8cd8b$12a2da70$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

David,
I was commenting on the assumed application of an American definition
applying to a British product, not on the actual thread size.  Big
assumption to make since we know well that the languages are not the same,
you should not conclude that an American definition necessarily applies.

That said, I agree with the definition other than the bit that says that
screws are generaly smaller. When I lived in Somerset there was an old Cider
press in a barn on the farm where I lived. It had a screw (and that is what
it was called) carved from a single piece of wood which was about 10 inches
in diameter and had a pitch of about 0.3 tpi!

Guy

;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net [mailto:dlancer7676 at comcast.net]
Sent: 13 June 2008 17:18
To: Guy Weller; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size*


Nope, not irrelevant since we are looking at the definition of a "screw" vs.
a "bolt".  This is one definition, among several, that defines a bolt as
having a "nut".  We are not talking about the thread size.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
> ASME definition is irrelevant as it is a UNC thread. It is British car,
why
> would it have American machine screws (or American bolts) ?
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf
> Of David Lieb
> Sent: 13 June 2008 14:56
> To: Spridget List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>
>
> > "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener
designed
> > for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally
> > intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
> >
> > So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be
> > called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does
not
> > have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to
my
> > way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above
> > description of a "screw".     8^)
>
> But what is the ASME definition of a screw? It almost sounds like screw is
> asuperset of bolt.
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri Jun 13 13:54:12 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:54:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye for sale
Message-ID: <4B0718546CA64A649CFA1546763D64FD@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I just talked to the guy, he's hard of hearing and yells into the phone.  Ford
guy, he knows nothing of Sprites and took this one in trade along with a VW he
wanted.  He lists it as a 57(!), but when asked, he says it has two studs on
the windscreen.  It seems to be rust free, solid floors and rockers.  Grill
and rear bumperettes missing.  Motor and trans present.  Indoor stored 25yrs

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/718188336.html

I'm close by and can take a look tomorrow or Sunday.  I don't imagine it will
take him long to sell it at that price, so get to it quickly.  Be sure to hold
the phone away from your ear!!!!!   Heck, at that price I almost bought it
over the phone and I don't even want it.

Glen Byrns

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:01:52 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:01:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <bde.30843a9a.35842c30@aol.com>

Do you mean it's not a set-screw it's a bolt???
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 13:22:22 GMT Daylight Time,  
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes:

It is  not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).

Mike C

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:06:07 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:06:07 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
Message-ID: <c74.2ecc97ec.35842d2f@aol.com>

Unfortunately UNF and UNC are in fact American threads, invented by the  
Americans.  We switched to UNF and UNC during WWII as part of war  standardisation 
or whatever and began to abandon the Whitworth system from that  point 
onwards.  Later we abandoned UNF and UNC for the Metric system.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
n a message dated 13/06/2008 15:04:48 GMT Daylight Time,  
guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes:

ASME  definition is irrelevant as it is a UNC thread. It is British car,  why
would it have American machine screws (or American bolts)  ?

Guy

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:18:41 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:18:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
Message-ID: <c3a.37e4c2db.35843021@aol.com>

I have come across a foward tilt hood with wings welded on and it was  
incredibly heavy.  I think if you really want that forward tilt look you  might as 
well fit a GRP front.
 
The rest of the car looks solid enough and for the right price it has a lot  
of potential.
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 17:09:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

Don't  think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda  cool

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:21:10 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:21:10 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <bde.3084df01.358430b6@aol.com>

Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a Spridget? 
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 18:34:38 GMT Daylight Time,  
kgb at frontiernet.net writes:

Amateur!  I've carried nine bales of hay home on mine.  A few  days later I
met a lady at a thrift store that loaded a king size water bed  (complete),
two pre-teen kids, and was stopping on her way home to get  groceries.

Kate

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:23:19 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:23:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye for sale
Message-ID: <c5b.33e100f5.35843137@aol.com>

What set of 'mess' does he want leaving?  My kids make a lot of mess  and I 
could sure do with getting rid of some of it.
 
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 20:54:38 GMT Daylight Time,  
grbyrns at ucdavis.edu writes:

I just  talked to the guy, he's hard of hearing and yells into the  phone.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 13 14:23:27 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:23:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
References: <bde.3084df01.358430b6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001201c8cd93$56e76130$01fea8c0@C600>

Yes.



  Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a Spridget?

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:25:08 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:25:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee and boot racks
Message-ID: <d2d.2e0f9239.358431a4@aol.com>

Have the rest of Sprite Jubilee photos back from the developers and showed  
them to my kids.  My 5 year old daughter really liked the boot rack on one  car 
and really wants one.  When I pressed her for detail I managed to get  her to 
say she wanted a whole car and that it should have a boot rack.
 
W E S L A K E 1330

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 14:26:12 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:26:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
Message-ID: <d11.2b2d52f1.358431e4@aol.com>

OK, that is something but did she make a round trip of over 70 miles and  get 
up to 70mph and do you have a photo.
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 21:24:10 GMT Daylight Time,  
kgb at frontiernet.net writes:

Yes.

 



Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a  Spridget? 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 13 14:45:39 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:45:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
References: <d11.2b2d52f1.358431e4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <002401c8cd96$70d11c00$01fea8c0@C600>

  She went from Eugene, OR to Florence, which is about 50 miles.  I, on the
other hand, only needed to drive my haystack about 1/4 mile.


  OK, that is something but did she make a round trip of over 70 miles and get
up to 70mph and do you have a photo.

  In a message dated 13/06/2008 21:24:10 GMT Daylight Time,
kgb at frontiernet.net writes:
    Yes.



      Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a Spridget?

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun 13 14:49:47 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:49:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
References: <d11.2b2d52f1.358431e4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A899F0F3357B406A92F3D17C4DB27D3E@NilesAD.von.gov>

> OK, that is something but did she make a round trip of over 70 miles and 
> get
> up to 70mph and do you have a photo.

So, what you really want to know is "was she certifiably insane or just a 
Spridget driver?"? 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 13 15:16:53 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:16:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
In-Reply-To: <c3a.37e4c2db.35843021@aol.com>
References: <c3a.37e4c2db.35843021@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP076BAE7FDC174F2A14949BB8AC0@CEZ.ICE>

Wasn't me that said the below though.

I would like a forward tilt bonnet.  What's GRP?

Robert D.


-----Original Message-----
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com
Sent: June 13, 2008 4:19 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI

I have come across a foward tilt hood with wings welded on and it was  
incredibly heavy.  I think if you really want that forward tilt look you
might as 
well fit a GRP front.
 
The rest of the car looks solid enough and for the right price it has a lot

of potential.
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 17:09:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

Don't  think I've ever seen a reverse hood on a midget... kinda  cool

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 13 15:19:37 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:19:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ooo-Ooo forsale RI
Message-ID: <cc4.32f425aa.35843e69@aol.com>

Glass Reinforced Plastic - Fibreglass
 
In a message dated 13/06/2008 22:18:49 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

Wasn't  me that said the below though.

I would like a forward tilt  bonnet.  What's GRP?

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jun 13 16:22:33 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:22:33 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
References: <061320081312.24850.4852722B00055EF9000061122215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A4663D342969444794FF338C9C3C2056@TAIRS>

Isn't the essence of the description that it is a 'MACHINE screw'?
It is not just a 'screw' on its own no matter how much you may love those.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dlancer7676 at comcast.net>
To: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>; "Kitterer Bob" 
<bkitterer at mac.com>; "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size


> Ahhh--that's a fine line.  I think technically it would be a screw, even 
> though, as we Americans have been taught to think, it doesn't have a slot 
> or Phillips receiver, isn't pointed, and isn't conical.
>
> I found this on the net:   "Old SAE and USS standards made a distinction 
> between a bolt and a cap screw based on whether a portion of the shaft was 
> un-threaded or not. Cap screws had shafts that were threaded up to the 
> head and bolts had partially threaded shafts. Today a bolt that has a 
> completely threaded shaft might be referred to as a tap bolt."
>
> "ASME B18.2.1 defines a bolt as 'an externally threaded fastener designed 
> for insertion through the holes in assembled parts, and is normally 
> intended to be tightened or released by torquing a nut'."
>
> So the fastener that holds the pan to the engine would technically be 
> called a screw, although I, too, refer to it as a bolt, since it does not 
> have a slot, a point, nor is it conical, as a screw (shut up Ed) is to my 
> way of thinking.  But then, again, it has no nut, so it fits the above 
> description of a "screw".     8^)
>
> --David C.
> WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
>> It is not a screw it is a bolt ;^)).
>>
>> Mike C
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> >From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>> >Sent: Jun 13, 2008 12:16 AM
>> >To: Spridgets <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
>> >
>> >Mouth in action before brain engaged.
>> >
>> >American Standard Machine Screws - - ASMS
>> >
>> >Bob Kitterer
>> >
>> >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>> >2000 Miata Special Edition
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>> >
>> >> <<all ASA bolts and screws.>>
>> >>
>> >> Huh, Bob??
>>
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jun 13 16:35:05 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:35:05 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size
In-Reply-To: <c74.2ecc97ec.35842d2f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c8cda5$baf2ee80$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Now I didn't know that.  But I bow to greater knowledge and apologise for my
earlier comments.
However, it remains that these cars DO use UNC and UNF sizes, and DID NOT
use different threads for the N. American market,.  So I got that bit
right. 
 
Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com [mailto:Weslake1330 at aol.com]
Sent: 13 June 2008 21:06
To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk; dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com;
spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil pan bolt size



Unfortunately UNF and UNC are in fact American threads, invented by the
Americans.  We switched to UNF and UNC during WWII as part of war
standardisation or whatever and began to abandon the Whitworth system from
that point onwards.  Later we abandoned UNF and UNC for the Metric system.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
n a message dated 13/06/2008 15:04:48 GMT Daylight Time,
guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes:

ASME definition is irrelevant as it is a UNC thread. It is British car, why
would it have American machine screws (or American bolts) ?

Guy


 


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From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 13 18:05:05 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:05:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>

Hello Jim,

     YOU already PROMISED both Frank C. and ME absolutely perfect
     weather for our trips. YOU said NOT TOOO hot, not cold at all,
     perfect weather for shorts OR long pants, T-shirts or Long
     Sleeves, with decent Humitidy, No RAIN, Top Down Driving both TO
     AND FROM, East AND West Coasts... ..

     you made this prediction/promise at least a month ago, HERE on
     the Spridgets list... that's why everyone is concerned NOW. ..

     yer gonna haf ta get on the stick of yer weather controller and
     git it dialed in. you don't have enough ta do what with only
     organizing the event and trying to sort the new engine... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Doctor, my brain hurts! 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 13 18:07:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:07:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
	<934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>

I lied.   ;-}
Jim

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Jim,
>
>     YOU already PROMISED both Frank C. and ME absolutely perfect
>     weather for our trips. YOU said NOT TOOO hot, not cold at all,
>     perfect weather for shorts OR long pants, T-shirts or Long
>     Sleeves, with decent Humitidy, No RAIN, Top Down Driving both TO
>     AND FROM, East AND West Coasts... ..
>
>     you made this prediction/promise at least a month ago, HERE on
>     the Spridgets list... that's why everyone is concerned NOW. ..
>
>     yer gonna haf ta get on the stick of yer weather controller and
>     git it dialed in. you don't have enough ta do what with only
>     organizing the event and trying to sort the new engine...
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  Doctor, my brain hurts!
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 13 19:19:00 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:19:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT><43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com><934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009201c8cdbc$a0d79d90$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I lied.   ;-}
Jim>>

Anybody that can say that ALL weather persons do NOT as a daily matter-of-fact???

I think NOT !!!

LOL

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 13 19:03:49 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:03:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
	<934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <794720246.20080613180349@pacifier.com>

Hello Jim,

     But, but, but,.... . we ALREADY sent our $$$$$


     hey IS there REALLY going to be a gathering of Spridgets in
     Missouri this JUNE?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Tried to play my shoehorn... all I got was footnotes 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 13 19:05:21 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:05:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
Message-ID: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  has anyone sourced ZDDP? .. other than ebay or eastwood that is? $10
  a bottle? .. anyone bringing some along to LoTO?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar 

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 13 19:20:47 2008
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:20:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Guidance Needed on Rebuild of Head
Message-ID: <299341.78919.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

This winter I will probably have to rebuild the head assembly on my stock Bugeye A Series 948 cc serial 9CUH20079 engine.&nbsp; Do it myself?&nbsp; Have a reputable shop rebuild it?&nbsp; Purchase a rebuilt head assembly and send them my core?&nbsp; Who for parts?&nbsp; Who for machining?&nbsp; Who for a complete assembly?&nbsp; Need guidance from the team.&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp; Doug Altman&nbsp;in central Michigan&nbsp;&nbsp; ....o~'o&nbsp;

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 19:47:25 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:47:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

I think a molybdenum oil additive would probably work better than a zinc 
one.
Given the same $10 price I would go for the moly...

http://www.mrmoly.com/html/engine_oil_supplement.html



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  has anyone sourced ZDDP? .. other than ebay or eastwood that is? $10
>  a bottle? .. anyone bringing some along to LoTO?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 20:14:44 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:14:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
	<00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Read up on the subject.  Research won't hurt you.

I am going with a ZDDP-enhanced oil.  After much reading and talking with 
tech experts, I am using Brad Penn Racing Oil 20W-50.  A tad more expensive, 
but not as much as an engine rebuild.  YMMV.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP


I think a molybdenum oil additive would probably work better than a zinc
one.
Given the same $10 price I would go for the moly...

http://www.mrmoly.com/html/engine_oil_supplement.html



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  has anyone sourced ZDDP? .. other than ebay or eastwood that is? $10
>  a bottle? .. anyone bringing some along to LoTO?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>  I'm as confused as a baby in a topless bar
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 20:29:24 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:29:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
	<00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <000401c8cdc6$762df080$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

OK, Fill me in (or point me in the right direction).  Why is the Zinc 
additive better than a Moly one?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP


> Read up on the subject.  Research won't hurt you.
>
> I am going with a ZDDP-enhanced oil.  After much reading and talking with
> tech experts, I am using Brad Penn Racing Oil 20W-50.  A tad more 
> expensive,
> but not as much as an engine rebuild.  YMMV.
>
> LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 13 21:00:24 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:00:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2><021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<000401c8cdc6$762df080$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <023c01c8cdca$cb4ba7c0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Here is an article by Charles Navarro.  It is written for/about Porches, but 
they are dealing with the same thing we are.  I have talked to him via 
e-mail and in person as well as attended an extensive tech session with him. 
Charles has been studying this for years and has spent thousands and 
thousands of dollars testing different products.  His research is considered 
among the best.

http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

If you Google ZDDP, you will get more articles on this than you will ever 
want to read.  Be sure to find out when the recommendations for oils were 
made as they are being re-formulated all the time.  What was good last year 
might not be good this year.

Look for a Crane Cams article.  They had a good one, too.

In any case, read up on/Google Brad Penn Oils.  They are committed to 
supplying the right stuff to our old motors and are one of the premier oil 
suppliers out there.  The high-performance shops in my area are all carrying 
Brad Penn oils now.  (They use flat-tappets in their race motors, too.)

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP


OK, Fill me in (or point me in the right direction).  Why is the Zinc
additive better than a Moly one?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>;
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP


> Read up on the subject.  Research won't hurt you.
>
> I am going with a ZDDP-enhanced oil.  After much reading and talking with
> tech experts, I am using Brad Penn Racing Oil 20W-50.  A tad more
> expensive,
> but not as much as an engine rebuild.  YMMV.
>
> LAD
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From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Fri Jun 13 21:32:30 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
In-Reply-To: <021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
	<00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <FDA9AE5E-3C06-4885-B40A-297902C5DE79@valentinephoto.net>

On Jun 13, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:
> Read up on the subject.  Research won't hurt you.
>
> I am going with a ZDDP-enhanced oil.  After much reading and  
> talking with
> tech experts, I am using Brad Penn Racing Oil 20W-50.  A tad more  
> expensive,
> but not as much as an engine rebuild.  YMMV.


I'm using Shell Rotella (15/40)  Available almost anywhere.  It has  
1200 PPM ZDDP.

Also, a can of (red) STP added to every oil change has the required  
ZDDP for flat tappet engines (if you want to use Castrol or other  
oils that don't have as much ZDDP in them).

The blue STP has only a slight amount of ZDDP and won't help much.


Kevin V.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 00:35:36 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:35:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2><021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<000401c8cdc6$762df080$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<023c01c8cdca$cb4ba7c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <001a01c8cde8$db7d5530$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Well,  I read the  Charles Navarro article and I still do not see anything 
that casts MoS2 in a bad light.
I can't find the ZDDP article on Crane Cams site.
What I'd really like to see is a ZDDP vs MoS2 type article.
In any case we are splitting hairs I think...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP


> Here is an article by Charles Navarro.  It is written for/about Porches, 
> but
> they are dealing with the same thing we are.  I have talked to him via
> e-mail and in person as well as attended an extensive tech session with 
> him.
> Charles has been studying this for years and has spent thousands and
> thousands of dollars testing different products.  His research is 
> considered
> among the best.
>
> http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html
>
> If you Google ZDDP, you will get more articles on this than you will ever
> want to read.  Be sure to find out when the recommendations for oils were
> made as they are being re-formulated all the time.  What was good last 
> year
> might not be good this year.
>
> Look for a Crane Cams article.  They had a good one, too.
>
> In any case, read up on/Google Brad Penn Oils.  They are committed to
> supplying the right stuff to our old motors and are one of the premier oil
> suppliers out there.  The high-performance shops in my area are all 
> carrying
> Brad Penn oils now.  (They use flat-tappets in their race motors, too.)
>
> LAD
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP
>
>
> OK, Fill me in (or point me in the right direction).  Why is the Zinc
> additive better than a Moly one?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>;
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP
>
>
>> Read up on the subject.  Research won't hurt you.
>>
>> I am going with a ZDDP-enhanced oil.  After much reading and talking with
>> tech experts, I am using Brad Penn Racing Oil 20W-50.  A tad more
>> expensive,
>> but not as much as an engine rebuild.  YMMV.
>>
>> LAD
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jun 14 06:25:00 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:25:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
In-Reply-To: <00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
	<00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <894E89F5D5924C3BAA393DE156853212@Home>

I went to a tech session at an extremely high-end engine shop last month, 
where they recommend diesel engine oil (from Wal-Mart) for old engines.  I 
don't recall the specific ingredient, but it has some metallic additive that 
that is no longer legal in car engine oil.  Check it out.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Jun 14 06:44:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 07:44:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<894E89F5D5924C3BAA393DE156853212@Home>
Message-ID: <203A604A416E4CC59B45967E8E3CA26C@midget>

>I went to a tech session at an extremely high-end engine shop last month,
> where they recommend diesel engine oil (from Wal-Mart) for old engines.

Walmart is like duct tape; it can get you by when you are desperate, but it 
is NEVER the BEST answer to ANY question. 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 09:57:30 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:57:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Guidance Needed on Rebuild of Head
Message-ID: <061420081557.7538.4853EA6A000211EB00001D722215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Doug:

You will probably get all sorts of replies on this, but rebuilding your own head is pretty straightforward and interesting.  I think the machine shop would be best to do a couple of basic operations, such as milling the head to insure it's trueness and installing the valve guides  and seats if you need them.   They could advise you on this as well.  I have used a couple of local machine shops--one of them is strictly a racing shop that usually deals with the big throated heavy-duty high HP engines--I guess my little engines compare with the .049 engines that we used to put on model airplanes to these guys. LOL

I have rebuilt a couple of heads--you have to use your good judgement as to whether to install new valves, which require grinding to "dress" them, or whether your old valves are grindable.   You might want to install new head and manifold studs while the head is off, since each torquing of fasteners stretches the metal, and hard telling how many times over the past 30+ years the studs have been torqued.  

I built a little workshop "stand" when I rebuilt my first head that has come in real handy.  It was made from scrap 2x4 lumber and has a platform to rest the head on and numbered holes to put the valves in as they are removed. I pass the valve stem through it's spring and put it into the hole, insuring that everything is going back the same as it came out.  

Just a few thoughts from the country.


--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Doug Altman <doug_altman at yahoo.com>
> This winter I will probably have to rebuild the head assembly on my stock Bugeye 
> A Series 948 cc serial 9CUH20079 engine.&nbsp; Do it myself?&nbsp; Have a 
> reputable shop rebuild it?&nbsp; Purchase a rebuilt head assembly and send them 
> my core?&nbsp; Who for parts?&nbsp; Who for machining?&nbsp; Who for a complete 
> assembly?&nbsp; Need guidance from the team.&nbsp; Thanks.&nbsp; Doug 
> Altman&nbsp;in central Michigan&nbsp;&nbsp; ....o~'o&nbsp;
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 10:14:39 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:14:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
Message-ID: <061420081614.12441.4853EE6F000CD78F000030992215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Several years ago I was watching a college football game that was being played in a driving rain.  Coach Bill Curry was one of the announcers and he made a statement that hit at the very heart of my philosophy about weather forecasting:  Coach Curry announced, on national television, "If I were to get another job, I would like to be a weather forecaster.  It is the only job in America where you can be wrong most of the time and still keep your job!"

My sentiments exactly.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> <<I lied.   ;-}
> Jim>>
> 
> Anybody that can say that ALL weather persons do NOT as a daily 
> matter-of-fact???
> 
> I think NOT !!!
> 
> LOL
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From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun 14 12:36:32 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
Message-ID: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>

Somewhere in the back of my mind, a little voice keeps telling me that if I 
use a 12" extension on my torque wrench, then the calibration mo longer 
holds true...

Am I mis-remembering something??

Yes... I *am* getting old  <Sad Grin>

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun 14 12:43:52 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>

I should add... I'm not talking about adding a cheater bar on the end, but 
adding an extension in-line with the socket to get to a hard to reach nut...

I know that increasing the length of the bar alters the torque...  there is a 
little windows applet for calcualting that one...

On 14 Jun 2008 at 11:36, Dave G. wrote:

>> Somewhere in the back of my mind, a little voice keeps telling me that
>> if I use a 12" extension on my torque wrench, then the calibration mo
>> longer holds true...
>> 
>> Am I mis-remembering something??
>> 
>> Yes... I *am* getting old  <Sad Grin>
>> 
>> --
>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 12:46:15 2008
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:46:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <00fd01c8ce4e$ed752ef0$0301a8c0@DELL>

That won't change the setting, as long as you can ensure that it stays 
straight up and down, ie parrellel with the bolt.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension


>I should add... I'm not talking about adding a cheater bar on the end, but
> adding an extension in-line with the socket to get to a hard to reach 
> nut...
>
> I know that increasing the length of the bar alters the torque...  there 
> is a
> little windows applet for calcualting that one...

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 12:49:52 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:49:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>

.. and where is the applet??

Lester

On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> I should add... I'm not talking about adding a cheater bar on the  
> end, but
> adding an extension in-line with the socket to get to a hard to  
> reach nut...
>
> I know that increasing the length of the bar alters the torque...   
> there is a
> little windows applet for calcualting that one...
>
> On 14 Jun 2008 at 11:36, Dave G. wrote:
>
>>> Somewhere in the back of my mind, a little voice keeps telling me  
>>> that
>>> if I use a 12" extension on my torque wrench, then the calibration  
>>> mo
>>> longer holds true...
>>>
>>> Am I mis-remembering something??
>>>
>>> Yes... I *am* getting old  <Sad Grin>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave G.   KK7SS
>>> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>>> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>>>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 12:58:18 2008
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:58:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com><4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <011101c8ce50$9bc8e900$0301a8c0@DELL>

If you are pulling on a 2 foot bar applying 10 lbs of force you are getting 
20 foot pounds.  If you apply 10 lbs on a three foot bar you are getting 30 
foot pounds.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
To: <dmg at bossig.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension


> .. and where is the applet??
>
> Lester
>
> On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Dave G. wrote:
>
>> I should add... I'm not talking about adding a cheater bar on the
>> end, but
>> adding an extension in-line with the socket to get to a hard to
>> reach nut...
>>
>> I know that increasing the length of the bar alters the torque...
>> there is a
>> little windows applet for calcualting that one...

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun 14 13:14:00 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:14:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>

Many thanks to all who rpelied...

Google is marvellous..
I found a treasure trove on the subject....

A good description of torque wrench anomolies is here
http://www.sacskyranch.com/torquew.htm

The downloadable calculator is here
http://www.sacskyranch.com/mechanic.htm

Hope someoneelse can also make use of it...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 14 13:17:11 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:17:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Speaking of torque wrenches, what is a good one to buy?

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


Dave G.
> Many thanks to all who rpelied...
>
> Google is marvellous..
> I found a treasure trove on the subject....
>
> A good description of torque wrench anomolies is here
> http://www.sacskyranch.com/torquew.htm
>
> The downloadable calculator is here
> http://www.sacskyranch.com/mechanic.htm
>
> Hope someoneelse can also make use of it...
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com
>
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>
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From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun 14 13:34:55 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:34:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <4853BAEF.13135.112C493@dmg.bossig.com>

A free on-line torque calculator when using a crows-foot type extension is 
avilable here...

http://tinyurl.com/5nceyh

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sat Jun 14 13:44:52 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye shell 4 sale
Message-ID: <200806141944.m5EJiqKm000605@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>

Cars with no paper, aaarrrggghhh!
I just looked at a 59 E roller with very littlr rust and few dents.  Disc
brakes already in place w/factory sway bar.  No grill, heater box or seats.
 A 1500cc has been dropped in it, and I mean dropped.  Not bolted in or
mounted in any way, just laying in the bay.  Some rust blisters at the
bottom rear corner of the rear wheel wells (You know, the spot in the boot
where everything goes to hide.  Little bondo, and fender-beading is all
good but for the little bit between the taillight lens and beehive lens on
the right where there is a repaired ding.

The guy would take under 1K for it and I nearly bought it on the spot, but
the VIN tag under the bonnet is missing.  The tag on the A post is there,
but so what.

It sits on a set of VERY wide rims that look like they were made in the
70's style, bugeye centers welded into Corvair hoops.

To a Sprite guy willing to take it away this weekend, he'll go well under 1K.

Come on somebody, take it and save me from myself.  I've got enough work
with the new bonnet and a promised paint job for the Traveler

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/718188336.html


Glen Byrns

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 15:02:00 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:02:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
In-Reply-To: <203A604A416E4CC59B45967E8E3CA26C@midget>
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<894E89F5D5924C3BAA393DE156853212@Home>
	<203A604A416E4CC59B45967E8E3CA26C@midget>
Message-ID: <485431C8.4010601@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>
> Walmart is like duct tape; it can get you by when you are desperate, but it 
> is NEVER the BEST answer to ANY question. 
> _______________________________________________
>   
David
Since EVERYTHING is made in china, shop Wal*Mart for the cheapest prices 
on bottom quality chinese tools, clothes, and most anything else you 
want to throw out tomorrow.
BTW, Wal*Mart duct tape doesn't stick either.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 15:06:06 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:06:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> Speaking of torque wrenches, what is a good one to buy?
>
>   
I have had a Craftsman for 20 years or better, my brother has a high end 
Snap on.
He said mine had to be off since it was so old, we checked it with his, 
dead nuts!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 15:09:52 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:09:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye shell 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <200806141944.m5EJiqKm000605@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200806141944.m5EJiqKm000605@biglossa.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <485433A0.1060804@comcast.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:
> To a Sprite guy willing to take it away this weekend, he'll go well under 1K.
>
> Come on somebody, take it and save me from myself.  I've got enough work
> with the new bonnet and a promised paint job for the Traveler
>
> http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/718188336.html
>
>   
Glen

If I could get it across the country cheap, I would go for it.
The Bugeye I have to restore for the priest is beyond junk compared to 
this one.
It would save me floors, sills, spring boxes, and it even has a bonnet.
If it could get to Loto, I could get it home.
Anybody have a room on their trailer?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jun 14 16:24:05 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:24:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net><4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com><3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009b01c8ce6d$5b601600$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I have had a Craftsman for 20 years or better, my brother has a high end Snap on.
He said mine had to be off since it was so old, we checked it with his, dead nuts!>>

BUT Frank, you got your's back when one still had a "chance" of getting a decent tool from Crapsman.!!!

And I will BET NEITHER torque wrench is actually accurate !!  When is the last time EITHER one of you had the tool calibrated (if ever)?!?!?!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 15:38:41 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:38:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
In-Reply-To: <485431C8.4010601@comcast.net>
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com>
	<00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<894E89F5D5924C3BAA393DE156853212@Home>
	<203A604A416E4CC59B45967E8E3CA26C@midget>
	<485431C8.4010601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806141438p1096d188h76f83f02472988d8@mail.gmail.com>

What if you use duct tape on ducts? Seems to work well in that
application...

>
> Walmart is like duct tape; it can get you by when you are desperate, but it
> is NEVER the BEST answer to ANY question.
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Jun 14 15:59:39 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:59:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2><894E89F5D5924C3BAA393DE156853212@Home><203A604A416E4CC59B45967E8E3CA26C@midget><485431C8.4010601@comcast.net>
	<b777e2be0806141438p1096d188h76f83f02472988d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <373FA48F0B694BBF9255291FA7963866@midget>

> What if you use duct tape on ducts? Seems to work well in that
> application...

Technically, no, it isn't even good for ducts. The adhesive moves around too 
much. Good HVAC guys do not use it. 

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun 14 16:19:41 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:19:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net><4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com><3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
	<009b01c8ce6d$5b601600$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <003901c8ce6c$bde37750$6401a8c0@personal>

Mine is Craftsman as well and is prob 40 years old and when checked last 
year was dead on as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension


> <<I have had a Craftsman for 20 years or better, my brother has a high end 
> Snap on.
> He said mine had to be off since it was so old, we checked it with his, 
> dead nuts!>>
>
> BUT Frank, you got your's back when one still had a "chance" of getting a 
> decent tool from Crapsman.!!!
>
> And I will BET NEITHER torque wrench is actually accurate !!  When is the 
> last time EITHER one of you had the tool calibrated (if ever)?!?!?!
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 14 16:26:34 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:26:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e3e8a2250ca32ef0aaca8a.20080614152634.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Yes, but a Craftsman from 20 years ago is not the same Craftsman they sell
today.
Mike MacLean


Frank Clarici
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>> Speaking of torque wrenches, what is a good one to buy?
>>
>>
> I have had a Craftsman for 20 years or better, my brother has a high end
> Snap on.
> He said mine had to be off since it was so old, we checked it with his,
> dead nuts!
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 16:35:43 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <e3e8a2250ca32ef0aaca8a.20080614152634.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>   
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
	<e3e8a2250ca32ef0aaca8a.20080614152634.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <485447BF.4050003@comcast.net>

rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
> Yes, but a Craftsman from 20 years ago is not the same Craftsman they sell
> today.
>
>   

How true, so go to walmart, they sell chinese junk for less ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 14 16:39:39 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:39:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <003901c8ce6c$bde37750$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net><4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com><3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><485432BE.2030606@comcast.net><009b01c8ce6d$5b601600$6801a8c0@shop>
	<003901c8ce6c$bde37750$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <18822a3b0afa57a2ca12912a.20080614153939.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

And where do you get it checked?
Mike


Jack Laird
> Mine is Craftsman as well and is prob 40 years old and when checked last
> year was dead on as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
>
>
>> <<I have had a Craftsman for 20 years or better, my brother has a high
>> end
>> Snap on.
>> He said mine had to be off since it was so old, we checked it with his,
>> dead nuts!>>
>>
>> BUT Frank, you got your's back when one still had a "chance" of getting
>> a
>> decent tool from Crapsman.!!!
>>
>> And I will BET NEITHER torque wrench is actually accurate !!  When is
>> the
>> last time EITHER one of you had the tool calibrated (if ever)?!?!?!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net
>>
>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>
>
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>
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 14 16:40:49 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <485447BF.4050003@comcast.net>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com> 
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
	<e3e8a2250ca32ef0aaca8a.20080614152634.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485447BF.4050003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1f950a4c158a70ee0a17ed0a.20080614154049.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

You're not helping.
Mike


Frank Clarici
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>> Yes, but a Craftsman from 20 years ago is not the same Craftsman they
>> sell
>> today.
>>
>>
>
> How true, so go to walmart, they sell chinese junk for less ;)
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 14 16:43:56 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:43:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2ED3CDC919152064A8691C8AF0@phx.gbl>

APT's pretty much just down the road from
you, Mike? Give Anton a call and see what
manufacturer he recommends in terms of today's "quality" (or more specifically, lack of it!!:).

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Jun 14 16:40:56 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:40:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in Chin*
In-Reply-To: <485447BF.4050003@comcast.net>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
	<3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
	<e3e8a2250ca32ef0aaca8a.20080614152634.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<485447BF.4050003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$3u3jss@email.mtu.edu>

>How true, so go to walmart, they sell chinese junk for less ;)
>
>--
>Frank Clarici

You guys see this??

July 12th, 2008 WASHINGTON -- A distributor of Chinese-made tire 
valve stems has agreed to recall 6 million valve stems, according to 
the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Tech International, a Johnstown, Ohio-based distributor of the 
Chinese-made parts, announced a recall of 6 million TR413 model valve 
stems, offering free replacements and to pay for any tire damage 
caused by the defective part, according to a June 2 letter made 
public on NHTSA's Web site.



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 14 16:51:03 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:51:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in Chin* - 6 million valve stem recall
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV5F66C0E6E131F1ECD858AC8AF0@phx.gbl>

Ain't globalization just effing great? :(

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 17:20:03 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:20:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
Message-ID: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>

I got the reworked clutch master back from White Post on Tuesday. Put it in
the car that night, and on Wednesday, tried to bleed the system. It didn't
work, it kept putting out bubbles, and I didn't know why. I stopped, because
I was getting pissed (that is US for angry, not drunk), and it is never good
to work on your car when you are pissed.
Today, I get back out to the car, and there is a puddle under it. This one
is coming from the right side. I crawl under, and see that the slave is now
shot. With a week to go until LotO, I now need a 68 clutch slave. AutoZone
wants $25 for the seal, and three to five days to get it to me.
Peter, Ed, anyone with one on the shelf that is in good shape....??

HELP!!!!


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 17:32:18 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:32:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
Message-ID: <061420082332.4996.4854550200061387000013842212059214C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Or Duck tape on ducks?   That's take the quack out of them. 

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
> What if you use duct tape on ducts? Seems to work well in that
> application...
> 
> >
> > Walmart is like duct tape; it can get you by when you are desperate, but it
> > is NEVER the BEST answer to ANY question.
> > --
> > Kent
> > 1960 Bugeye
> > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 14 17:49:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:49:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
Message-ID: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>

Just pulled the engine on my Sprite.  It took about 4 and a half hours  
though if hadn't have been so tired I guess I might have got it down to 4.15 or  
maybe a straight 4.
 
How do you guys manage to pull it quicker than that?
 
The engine''s out to resolve a clutch problem which looks to be excessive  
bearing drag in the roller release bearing eating into the clutch fingers.
 
W E S L A K E 1330

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 14 17:54:54 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:54:54 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV5971F68CD13A5309F5657C8AF0@phx.gbl>

Hmmmm......

very strange as we normally upgrade to "rollers" for smoother operation and LESS drag = greater longevity usually.

Please let us know what you find, Daniel.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun 14 18:06:33 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:06:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com>

Hello Weslake1330,

     is it the first time you've done it?.. the guys who do it quickly
     KNOW EXACTLY where all the bolts are, EXACTLY the order of things
     to do, and EXACTLY where to hook onto the Power Unit. They don't
     have check and recheck to make sure that everything is
     disconnected that needs to be, and to leave alone the things that
     don't. ..

     and i don't think they start timing until AFTER they have the
     bonnet off the car... (CHEATERS!)

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "It's just gold leaf," said Tom guiltily.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 14 18:39:54 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:39:54 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Guidance Needed on Rebuild of Head
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV171144283976179878DD0C8AE0@phx.gbl>

Unless you have the tools/knowhow, it's got to be zygloed and pressure checked
anyway.

So, might as well let a good shop do it for a couple hundred.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jun 14 18:54:36 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:54:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <485432BE.2030606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I bought a top of the line Craftsmen about three years ago, figuring that my
old Wizard beam type was too old to be reliable. The first time I used it, I
broke a new Arp bolt because the damn thing wouldn't click. I set it at 25
pounds, clamped it in my vice, and pulled as hard as I could. It still
didn't click. I took it back and they gave me another one, but I've never
trusted it. I always end up using the 40 year old Wizard.
BZ

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Sat Jun 14 19:46:59 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:46:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbon Fiber?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15930.1213483232.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15930.1213483232.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4F2255B4-0FFE-481A-B7A4-30364570A6A2@dartmouth.edu>

Is there interest in Carbon Fiber replacements for body metal?  
(fenders doors etc?) Does someone make these parts in CF already?

-m

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 20:11:41 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:11:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
>      and i don't think they start timing until AFTER they have the
>      bonnet off the car... (CHEATERS!)
>
>   
Who takes the bonnet off? That is a major waste of time.
Pull the 8 bolts in the manifolds, set the carbs (still assembled with 
cables in place) on the wheel well, tie the exhaust (again still hooked 
up) to the steering column, undo a few bolts and pull it out.
Takes about an hour or so.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jun 14 20:18:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:18:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net><4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com><3036a7425aac64a2486a.20080614121711.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com><485432BE.2030606@comcast.net><009b01c8ce6d$5b601600$6801a8c0@shop><003901c8ce6c$bde37750$6401a8c0@personal>
	<18822a3b0afa57a2ca12912a.20080614153939.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <011501c8ce8e$1cc09480$6801a8c0@shop>

Well, I have rec'd a couple questions which I will answer below<G>!!
**************************
"And where do you get it checked?"
**************************  AND
"How?"
**************************
For answer #1 you may purchase one of these (every shadetree shop "should" have one<VBG>).
http://tinyurl.com/5fho3k
or
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?Group_ID=988

Answer #2 (which IS what I do) is just hand over to Snap-on or Mac Tools (see them most often) Dealer and he has it done.  

About 2 weeks (last year) and for the life of me I do not recall how much.

Off the top of my head, I think my Snap-On guy said that for "most" shadetree guys 3 - 4 years of not doing is OK.  BUT don't hold me to it as I have my five (and they ARE overdue but haven't used due to the back crap I have going on<F>) and up until 2 years ago (to date) haven't even been able to use onr<VBF>!!!

HTHs!!

From hal at katemuir.com  Sat Jun 14 21:18:26 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:18:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <00fd01c8ce4e$ed752ef0$0301a8c0@DELL>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEFDHGAA.hal@katemuir.com>

I believe that co-axial is the correct term here.
Pedantic Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Geoff Branch
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:46 AM
To: dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension


That won't change the setting, as long as you can ensure that it stays 
straight up and down, ie parrellel with the bolt.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 21:30:43 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:30:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
Message-ID: <061520080330.26708.48548CE30007BBBA000068542216527966000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Brad ,
the problem may have been what brake fluid you used DOT 4 vs DOT 3.  If you put the wrong fluid in it eats the seals.  I bought a new master and slave from victoria british for about $100.  As for bleeding the system I used a piece of tubinmg  and a 50 ml syringe.
ryan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com> 

> I got the reworked clutch master back from White Post on Tuesday. Put it in 
> the car that night, and on Wednesday, tried to bleed the system. It didn't 
> work, it kept putting out bubbles, and I didn't know why. I stopped, because 
> I was getting pissed (that is US for angry, not drunk), and it is never good 
> to work on your car when you are pissed. 
> Today, I get back out to the car, and there is a puddle under it. This one 
> is coming from the right side. I crawl under, and see that the slave is now 
> shot. With a week to go until LotO, I now need a 68 clutch slave. AutoZone 
> wants $25 for the seal, and three to five days to get it to me. 
> Peter, Ed, anyone with one on the shelf that is in good shape....?? 
> 
> HELP!!!! 
> 
> 
> -- 
> DON JULIO 1942 
> 
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad 
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 14 22:19:08 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:19:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP
References: <1559830870.20080613180521@pacifier.com><00a901c8cdc0$98f64370$0400a8c0@blackbox2><021701c8cdc4$6a2569a0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<000401c8cdc6$762df080$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<023c01c8cdca$cb4ba7c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <001e01c8ce9e$f5724340$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

As I suspected, ZDDP is just a cheaper alternative to molybdenum disulfide .

http://www.platinumresearch.com/media/promedia_mar_08.pdf

"We are all aware that the excellent
film-forming properties of ZDDPs are the
key to its strong antiwear characteristics,
but it can also lead to poisoning emissions
catalysts, which is of concern to the automotive
industry.
Another additive that has been used to
provide extreme pressure properties is
molybdenum disulfide. This compound is
used as a solid lubricant and can be dispersed
into oil for use in industrial lubricant
applications such as grease. The rapidly rising
cost of molybdenum disulfide is of concern
and is prompting the need for evaluating
alternative technologies that exhibit
better cost performance."

So,  go here  http://www.rosemill.com/product.asp?productid=258465
order a pound of the 1.5um stuff and add a teaspoon every other oil change.
Should last you the rest of your life...

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sat Jun 14 23:03:34 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] vin tag
Message-ID: <200806150503.m5F53YO1023981@diometes.ucdavis.edu>

For a bugeye that has lost its vin tag, can the door post tag or the
bodyshell number above the passenger footwell be used to track down the
original ser. #??

Thanks,

Glen Byrns

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 23:10:17 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:10:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>

Pulled mine by myself a couple of days ago in just under 2 hours. 4.5 hours
would have required many stops for tea and scones   ;-)
And I am far from and expert at this. The 2 hours included removing the
bonnet.  Didn't even bother taking off the carb and manifold or the dizzy.
They came out wih the lump.  Hardest part was removing the top bolt on the
clutch slave cylinder. Not hard, just awkward!

A question for the group while I'm at it.  I have a 3.92 diff I want to
install.  I also need to replace the rear hubs gaskets and O rings. What
size is the square drain plug on the banjo and are there any tricks to
pulling the half shafts and diff?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/14/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Bill L wrote:
> >      and i don't think they start timing until AFTER they have the
> >      bonnet off the car... (CHEATERS!)
> >
> >
>
> Who takes the bonnet off? That is a major waste of time.
> Pull the 8 bolts in the manifolds, set the carbs (still assembled with
> cables in place) on the wheel well, tie the exhaust (again still hooked
> up) to the steering column, undo a few bolts and pull it out.
> Takes about an hour or so.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 23:27:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Confuse Spridget identity
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806142227qb2e150ch6355827c544b1d25@mail.gmail.com>

I finally am getting around to asking this question though I've known about
it for a while.

As I have said in other posts, I appear to own a true mongrel Spridget. It
is registered as a GAN4U Midget and that is what is on the VIN tag on the
drivers side frame member. However, there are inconsistencies.  The bonnet
has the chrome arrows on it but the chrome side trim is missing.  In fact no
sign that it has ever been there when looking inside the wings and boot. On
the drivers side shock mounting plate, there is the number "61348" which is
different that the numbers on the VIN plate. The VIN plate is held in place
by metal tapping screws and not rivets. There are no letters on the shock
mount plate. Only the 5 digit number. According Horler, that number is in
the range for 1968 Midgets but why no side trim??  If the tub were from a
Sprite without the side trim, the number doesn't match the body style.

Just what the hell do I have here?  Were any Midgets made *without* the side
trim?!

"OoooArrr, Jim lad....  She looks like some sorta bastard, she does...",
Silver muttered with a wry smile - parrot perched precariously on his
shoulder.  "What man among you put a black spot on the page of a Haynes
manual??  Arrrr....."
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jun 15 01:39:18 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:39:18 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
References: <061520080330.26708.48548CE30007BBBA000068542216527966000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <217172B615224FB3A08E2F6A7FC8C7A2@TAIRS>

 DOT 3 and DOT 4 brake fluids are compatible with each other and may be 
interchanged or mixed with no ill effects except the boiling points are 
different.  A mixture which includes DOT 3 must be treated as being wholly 
DOT 3.

The table below shows MINIMUM wet and dry boiling points for DOT 2, 3, 4, 
and 5 brake fluid in degrees Fahrenheit.



     DOT 2
     DOT 3
     DOT 4
     DOT 5

      Dry Boiling point
     374
     401
     446
     500

      Wet boiling point

     284
     311
     356




The DOT 2 spec is for drum brakes and is obsolete.  If you have any DOT 2 in 
your garage, throw it away!

DOT 5 is silicone brake fluid.  Silicone brake fluid (DOT 5) is NOT 
compatible with regular brake fluid, it is hard to pour without introducing 
bubbles and can result in soft pedal feel.  Moisture still gets into your 
system and it will pool in low areas such as callipers.  It may therefor 
encourage rapid corrosion rather than be obsorbed in the fluid and it will 
destroy seals if they have already used for normal brake fluid.  Fully 
cleaned components and new seals will be OK.  Basically, stay clear unless 
you have a need for it.

In some Countries there is DOT 5.1 which may get called Super or Supreme DOT 
4.  Don't know anything about that other than it has a higher boiling point 
than normal DOT 5.  Whether or even if it is missable with another DOT 
standard is also unknown.

Guy R Day

PS   Brad, sorry I can't help, but good luck in getting the slave cyl 
sorted.



----- Original Message ----- 

From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!


> Brad ,
> the problem may have been what brake fluid you used DOT 4 vs DOT 3.  If 
> you put the wrong fluid in it eats the seals.  I bought a new master and 
> slave from victoria british for about $100.  As for bleeding the system I 
> used a piece of tubinmg  and a 50 ml syringe.
> ryan
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
>> I got the reworked clutch master back from White Post on Tuesday. Put it 
>> in
>> the car that night, and on Wednesday, tried to bleed the system. It 
>> didn't
>> work, it kept putting out bubbles, and I didn't know why. I stopped, 
>> because
>> I was getting pissed (that is US for angry, not drunk), and it is never 
>> good
>> to work on your car when you are pissed.
>> Today, I get back out to the car, and there is a puddle under it. This 
>> one
>> is coming from the right side. I crawl under, and see that the slave is 
>> now
>> shot. With a week to go until LotO, I now need a 68 clutch slave. 
>> AutoZone
>> wants $25 for the seal, and three to five days to get it to me.
>> Peter, Ed, anyone with one on the shelf that is in good shape....??
>>
>> HELP!!!!
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> DON JULIO 1942
>>

> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Jun 15 02:39:32 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:39:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 13, Issue 43
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <03D92897-80CF-4144-B704-544FBEA2D849@gerardsgarage.com>

Glen

I assume you are referring through BMIHT? Only the right hand door  
post tag can be used (not the left) Prefix begins BAE. The engine  
number can be used IF you have the original tag. Other number are not  
ALWAYS recorded. Other options are the back of the dash and jump seat  
(and sometimes under bonnet), but these are usually long gone by now.

Gerard


On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> Subject: [Spridgets] vin tag
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <200806150503.m5F53YO1023981 at diometes.ucdavis.edu>
>
> For a bugeye that has lost its vin tag, can the door post tag or the
> bodyshell number above the passenger footwell be used to track down  
> the
> original ser. #??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Byrns

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Jun 15 02:40:03 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:40:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] vin tag
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <29B01CFE-0BE6-4226-A6CE-C464C93CB792@gerardsgarage.com>

Glen

I assume you are referring through BMIHT? Only the right hand door  
post tag can be used (not the left) Prefix begins BAE. The engine  
number can be used IF you have the original tag. Other number are not  
ALWAYS recorded. Other options are the back of the dash and jump seat  
(and sometimes under bonnet), but these are usually long gone by now.

Gerard


On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> Subject: [Spridgets] vin tag
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <200806150503.m5F53YO1023981 at diometes.ucdavis.edu>
>
> For a bugeye that has lost its vin tag, can the door post tag or the
> bodyshell number above the passenger footwell be used to track down  
> the
> original ser. #??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glen Byrns

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Sun Jun 15 03:06:22 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:06:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clutch slave
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15960.1213515531.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <DB9700F0-2605-4104-8DC9-BCF3C75DBB04@gerardsgarage.com>

Brad,

You should be able to get a rebuild kit though Parts America
(Kragen's in NorCal)  I have purchased Beck Arnley from them many
times and they also have Raybestos. It should not cast more than
about $9.

http://www.partsamerica.com:80/ProductList.aspx?PartType=237&PTSet=A

Gerard

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o?<o?<

Raybestos Professional Grade Clutch Slave Cylinder Repair Kit
Clutch Slave Cylinder Kit: Professional Grade; 1 Per Car
Warranty: Limited 3 Month*  Part No.
CSK1839


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Warranty: 90 DAYS FREE REPLACEMENT

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On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:20:03 -0500
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
> To: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>,  "Yahoo Spridget list"
> 	<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
> Message-ID:
> 	<e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I got the reworked clutch master back from White Post on Tuesday.
> Put it in
> the car that night, and on Wednesday, tried to bleed the system. It
> didn't
> work, it kept putting out bubbles, and I didn't know why. I
> stopped, because
> I was getting pissed (that is US for angry, not drunk), and it is
> never good
> to work on your car when you are pissed.
> Today, I get back out to the car, and there is a puddle under it.
> This one
> is coming from the right side. I crawl under, and see that the
> slave is now
> shot. With a week to go until LotO, I now need a 68 clutch slave.
> AutoZone
> wants $25 for the seal, and three to five days to get it to me.
> Peter, Ed, anyone with one on the shelf that is in good shape....??
>
> HELP!!!!
>
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 03:24:15 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806150224r6904991du3fd11c1be1dbc709@mail.gmail.com>

I purchased a 1/2" drive extension at a pawn shop, and ground the sides just
enough to have it fit the plug.
Once you get the drums and the half shaft retaining screw removed, rap the
centre of the half shaft smartly with the lead hammer you have for removing
your wire wheels. That should help release the seals from the housing, as
well as help loosen it from the diff inside.

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> A question for the group while I'm at it.  I have a 3.92 diff I want to
> install.  I also need to replace the rear hubs gaskets and O rings. What
> size is the square drain plug on the banjo and are there any tricks to
> pulling the half shafts and diff?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/14/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Bill L wrote:
> > >      and i don't think they start timing until AFTER they have the
> > >      bonnet off the car... (CHEATERS!)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Who takes the bonnet off? That is a major waste of time.
> > Pull the 8 bolts in the manifolds, set the carbs (still assembled with
> > cables in place) on the wheel well, tie the exhaust (again still hooked
> > up) to the steering column, undo a few bolts and pull it out.
> > Takes about an hour or so.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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-- 
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www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun 15 06:00:58 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:00:58 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
Message-ID: <d32.32193e29.35865e7a@aol.com>

First time this year, twice last year and I removed the bonnet single  
handed.  It's very tight coming out because it has a modified Ford 5  speed.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 15/06/2008 01:06:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

is it the first time you've done it?.. the guys who do it  quickly
KNOW EXACTLY where all the bolts are, EXACTLY  the order of things
to do, and EXACTLY where to hook  onto the Power Unit. They don't
have check and recheck  to make sure that everything is
disconnected that needs  to be, and to leave alone the things that
don't.  ..

and i don't think they start timing until AFTER  they have the
bonnet off the car...  (CHEATERS!)

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun 15 06:05:59 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:05:59 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
Message-ID: <d1e.28209358.35865fa7@aol.com>

Ok, it seems like I have to do a lot of stuff that takes longer because the  
car is modified like remove the carb from the inlet before I can remove the  
inlet because I have a 3-into-1 exhaust manifold that has to be removed.  I  
also have other small extras that add up like oil temperature gauge, lock wired  
sump plug, oil catch tank and 3 breather pipes, etc.  Maybe I was more  tired 
than a I realised.  Still once it's back in I don't plan on pulling  it again 
in a hurry.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 06:58:49 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:58:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <CA640505054E4A09B14FADACE77357F6@midget>

>I bought a top of the line Craftsmen about three years ago, figuring that 
>my
> old Wizard beam type was too old to be reliable. The first time I used it, 
> I
> broke a new Arp bolt because the damn thing wouldn't click. I set it at 25
> pounds, clamped it in my vice, and pulled as hard as I could. It still
> didn't click. I took it back and they gave me another one, but I've never
> trusted it. I always end up using the 40 year old Wizard.

Billy,
I broke a head on my small-block Chevy 20 years ago with one of the 
Craftsman click-type torque wrenches that they sold 30 years ago. I don't 
trust them either. the beams are not as precise, but they are just as 
precise as the application requires.
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 07:18:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 08:18:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
References: <d1e.28209358.35865fa7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <39707976BAE74E858640BC0EA01CC4CA@midget>

Some people sure seem to be in a hurry to get back to their honeydew list!
I can't think of a better way to spend a day than puttering on a Spridget, 
so I generally set aside a nice relaxed Saturday to pull the drivetrain out 
and fix whatever needed done, then a nice relaxed Sunday to get everything 
back in, set the valves, set the timing, tune the carbs, etc. It isn't a 
race for me ;-) 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 07:25:19 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:25:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>

Jim

Try just the square end of a 3/8 drive ratchet. That usually works.
The size is probably 7/16" square, so a 1/2" drive ratchet needs to be 
ground down a bit but a 3/8, although loose, works unless the PO torqued 
the hell out of it.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun 15 08:50:22 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:50:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Diffy plug remover
In-Reply-To: <4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <222325701.20080615075022@pacifier.com>

Hello

          a piece of 7 /16" square stock welded into a 12 point
          socket, (1/2" ?) then bullnose the end with a grinder.
          perfect fit diffy plug remover... throw it in the toolbox
          and have one around.


          NOBODY sells one. MAC, PROTO, SEARS, SNAP-ON..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "The prisoner escaped down a rope," said Tom condescendingly.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 09:21:46 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:21:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <CA640505054E4A09B14FADACE77357F6@midget>
References: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<CA640505054E4A09B14FADACE77357F6@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806150821x61a97f0cma6cfee356a3fbce6@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW,  working on motorcycles for 40 years has taught me that "clicker" type
torque wrenches are not as accurate as the old beam and pointer type anyway.
If you've used the old type a lot, you will have a pretty good "feel" for
torques.  I, too, have had a "clicker" that didn't work but I recognized it
right away when I had pulled about 60 ft/lbs worth and no click came. I then
tested it. Set it to 60 ft/lbs and tried it on something requiring 80
ft/lbs. Still no click.  Craftsman replaced it. I tested the new one and
found it working. My calibrated elbow saved me from a broken stud.

Of course, my German bikes are all in newton meters.....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/15/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>
> >I bought a top of the line Craftsmen about three years ago, figuring that
> >my
> > old Wizard beam type was too old to be reliable. The first time I used
> it,
> > I
> > broke a new Arp bolt because the damn thing wouldn't click. I set it at
> 25
> > pounds, clamped it in my vice, and pulled as hard as I could. It still
> > didn't click. I took it back and they gave me another one, but I've never
> > trusted it. I always end up using the 40 year old Wizard.
>
> Billy,
> I broke a head on my small-block Chevy 20 years ago with one of the
> Craftsman click-type torque wrenches that they sold 30 years ago. I don't
> trust them either. the beams are not as precise, but they are just as
> precise as the application requires.
> David Lieb
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 09:28:14 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806150828m29f60dc4r2e49409399af5cd1@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all who responded.  I'll try Frank's route first as I have a spare
3/8 drive breaker bar if it breaks.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/15/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Jim
>
> Try just the square end of a 3/8 drive ratchet. That usually works.
> The size is probably 7/16" square, so a 1/2" drive ratchet needs to be
> ground down a bit but a 3/8, although loose, works unless the PO torqued the
> hell out of it.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Jun 15 10:06:17 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:06:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Diffy plug remover
In-Reply-To: <222325701.20080615075022@pacifier.com>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com>
	<147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com> <48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4855183F.7030901@comcast.net> <222325701.20080615075022@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <E667CBF9-F4FA-48AC-83E6-8B09093D5EF2@mac.com>

Check out the  "drain plug wrench" at these sites.

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=113647

p://www.abbeypowertools.co.uk/subprod/oil-changing-0001415.aspx

They various tapered squares to fit different drain plugs.  Have been  
using one for years, think it came from my dad's garage.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Jun 15, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello
>
>           a piece of 7 /16" square stock welded into a 12 point
>           socket, (1/2" ?) then bullnose the end with a grinder.
>           perfect fit diffy plug remover... throw it in the toolbox
>           and have one around.
>
>
>           NOBODY sells one. MAC, PROTO, SEARS, SNAP-ON..
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>       * "The prisoner escaped down a rope," said Tom condescendingly.
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jun 15 10:23:55 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:23:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Diffy plug remover
In-Reply-To: <E667CBF9-F4FA-48AC-83E6-8B09093D5EF2@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C47A902B.17B9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> using one for years, think it came from my dad's garage.
That's where I got mine too. I guess that's where my son will get his,
although they'll probably be using virtual fasteners by then.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun 15 11:39:12 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:39:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
Message-ID: <cda.311603ca.3586adc0@aol.com>

I take more than a day putting everything back in!  
 
In a message dated 15/06/2008 14:19:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

get  everything 
back in, 

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 11:59:02 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:59:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Confuse Spridget identity
Message-ID: <061520081759.18751.48555866000511A70000493F2215553894C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Heh heh---Reminds me of attending the Austin Healey Conclave in Indianapolis a few years ago and going to the car show.   I made my way to the Sprites and was perusing the LBCs when I came upon a real, in-the-flesh ROUND WHEEL ARCH Sprite entered in the show.   At least its tag I.D.'d it as a Sprite.  HAD to be One-Of-A-Kind!   8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> I finally am getting around to asking this question though I've known about
> it for a while.
> 
> As I have said in other posts, I appear to own a true mongrel Spridget. It
> is registered as a GAN4U Midget and that is what is on the VIN tag on the
> drivers side frame member. However, there are inconsistencies.  The bonnet
> has the chrome arrows on it but the chrome side trim is missing.  In fact no
> sign that it has ever been there when looking inside the wings and boot. On
> the drivers side shock mounting plate, there is the number "61348" which is
> different that the numbers on the VIN plate. The VIN plate is held in place
> by metal tapping screws and not rivets. There are no letters on the shock
> mount plate. Only the 5 digit number. According Horler, that number is in
> the range for 1968 Midgets but why no side trim??  If the tub were from a
> Sprite without the side trim, the number doesn't match the body style.
> 
> Just what the hell do I have here?  Were any Midgets made *without* the side
> trim?!
> 
> "OoooArrr, Jim lad....  She looks like some sorta bastard, she does...",
> Silver muttered with a wry smile - parrot perched precariously on his
> shoulder.  "What man among you put a black spot on the page of a Haynes
> manual??  Arrrr....."
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 12:00:32 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:00:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull*
Message-ID: <061520081800.21968.485558C0000C579B000055D02215553894C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hey, that's pretty good if you did it without benefit of Viagra.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Pulled mine by myself a couple of days ago in just under 2 hours. 4.5 hours
> would have required many stops for tea and scones   ;-)
> And I am far from and expert at this. The 2 hours included removing the
> bonnet.  Didn't even bother taking off the carb and manifold or the dizzy.
> They came out wih the lump.  Hardest part was removing the top bolt on the
> clutch slave cylinder. Not hard, just awkward!
> 
> A question for the group while I'm at it.  I have a 3.92 diff I want to
> install.  I also need to replace the rear hubs gaskets and O rings. What
> size is the square drain plug on the banjo and are there any tricks to
> pulling the half shafts and diff?
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On 6/14/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Bill L wrote:
> > >      and i don't think they start timing until AFTER they have the
> > >      bonnet off the car... (CHEATERS!)
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Who takes the bonnet off? That is a major waste of time.
> > Pull the 8 bolts in the manifolds, set the carbs (still assembled with
> > cables in place) on the wheel well, tie the exhaust (again still hooked
> > up) to the steering column, undo a few bolts and pull it out.
> > Takes about an hour or so.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
> 2008!!
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Jun 15 12:45:50 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:45:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com><147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com>
	<48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net><43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <007f01c8cf18$08517520$6401a8c0@personal>

3/8th drive works for me and always has. Thought it was what we were supose 
to use. shrug.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine pull


> Jim
>
> Try just the square end of a 3/8 drive ratchet. That usually works.
> The size is probably 7/16" square, so a 1/2" drive ratchet needs to be
> ground down a bit but a 3/8, although loose, works unless the PO torqued
> the hell out of it.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 13:15:19 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:15:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com><147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com><48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net><43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com><4855183F.7030901@comcast.net>
	<007f01c8cf18$08517520$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <84388B61DBAC4D07AA062746C231E2F4@midget>

> 3/8th drive works for me and always has. Thought it was what we were 
> supose
> to use. shrug.

3/8th works if nothing is stuck. When you have one that does not want to 
budge, it simply laughs at the 3/8th. I also use Brad's concept. I bought a 
cheap 1/2" extension, the shortest one they had, took it over to the grinder 
and tapered the end until it was a perfect snug fit in the plug. Pop it onto 
the impact wrench and it gets those bad boys right out for me. I generally 
use it with a ratchet to put the plugs back in so as not to get them so 
tight I need to escalate everything up another notch to get them out next 
time.
David Lieb 

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 13:44:45 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:44:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Phenomenal Collection of Pictures
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806151244q1a989b0au79233fc72a42dd5b@mail.gmail.com>

Guys & Gals,

I only got thru the first few pages thus far, but decided this site needed
to be shared.  Yes, there is LBC content and other cars....

Enjoy,

Herb
Grants Pass, Oregon
TR's, A-H's, Motorcycles & American Iron

http://pixdaus.com/index.php?pageno=301&sort=most

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 13:51:10 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:51:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806151251m4113fd4clb7f6d85e87bb0230@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,

Any "hydraulic shops" near by?  They usually carry a good selection of
seals.

Herb

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 14:06:10 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:06:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806151251m4113fd4clb7f6d85e87bb0230@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806151251m4113fd4clb7f6d85e87bb0230@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F2E18BC9-C76D-4BEB-9051-F591534F126C@comcast.net>

.. zoos and some water parks as well..

Lester

.. sorry.. couldn't help myself..


On Jun 15, 2008, at 2:51 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Brad,
>
> Any "hydraulic shops" near by?  They usually carry a good selection of
> seals.
>
> Herb

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun 15 14:26:57 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <84388B61DBAC4D07AA062746C231E2F4@midget>
References: <bc1.33634694.3585b31a@aol.com><147200989.20080614170633@pacifier.com><48547A5D.8060801@comcast.net><43840a7e0806142210qf122d36k6d07c71630d5f58b@mail.gmail.com><4855183F.7030901@comcast.net><007f01c8cf18$08517520$6401a8c0@personal>
	<84388B61DBAC4D07AA062746C231E2F4@midget>
Message-ID: <17e14a39876a55638abf0aa.20080615132657.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

All I have is a 3/8ths to 1/2 inch adapter ground down to fit the hole. 
Just put it on my 3/8ths ratchet and it works perfectly and does not take
up much room at all in the socket drawer.  You can buy an adapter at
Horrible Fright for next to nothing.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

David Lieb
>> 3/8th drive works for me and always has. Thought it was what we were
>> supose
>> to use. shrug.
>
> 3/8th works if nothing is stuck. When you have one that does not want to
> budge, it simply laughs at the 3/8th. I also use Brad's concept. I bought
> a
> cheap 1/2" extension, the shortest one they had, took it over to the
> grinder
> and tapered the end until it was a perfect snug fit in the plug. Pop it
> onto
> the impact wrench and it gets those bad boys right out for me. I generally
> use it with a ratchet to put the plugs back in so as not to get them so
> tight I need to escalate everything up another notch to get them out next
> time.
> David Lieb
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 15 15:42:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:42:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
References: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10806151251m4113fd4clb7f6d85e87bb0230@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c8cf30$b1095da0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Any "hydraulic shops" near by? >>

Trust me Herb, there ain't NOTHIN' "near by" for Brad!!!!!

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun 15 15:08:10 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:08:10 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Confuse Spridget identity
Message-ID: <d09.38a36109.3586deba@aol.com>

Apart from my 69?
 
In a message dated 15/06/2008 18:59:51 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlancer7676 at comcast.net writes:

I came  upon a real, in-the-flesh ROUND WHEEL ARCH Sprite entered in the  
show.   At least its tag I.D.'d it as a Sprite.  HAD to be  One-Of-A-Kind!   8^)

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sun Jun 15 19:10:39 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:10:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye made it home.
Message-ID: <200806160110.m5G1AdJI023892@berna.ucdavis.edu>

No time to post pics yet, headed for Father's day dinner.
Wnen I found the body tag inside the right door post I knew I could get a
correct vin so I grabbed the car.

Body shell # is BAE 9711

Is that going to make it a 58 or 59?

Glen

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 19:17:28 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:17:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
	<934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BB6FCC0A-5B48-4B87-8D3E-F486297C90B6@phillymgclub.com>

What about the weather in Valley Forge PA??


On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I lied.   ;-}
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Jim,
>>
>>    YOU already PROMISED both Frank C. and ME absolutely perfect
>>    weather for our trips. YOU said NOT TOOO hot, not cold at all,
>>    perfect weather for shorts OR long pants, T-shirts or Long
>>    Sleeves, with decent Humitidy, No RAIN, Top Down Driving both TO
>>    AND FROM, East AND West Coasts... ..
>>
>>    you made this prediction/promise at least a month ago, HERE on
>>    the Spridgets list... that's why everyone is concerned NOW. ..
>>
>>    yer gonna haf ta get on the stick of yer weather controller and
>>    git it dialed in. you don't have enough ta do what with only
>>    organizing the event and trying to sort the new engine...
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>> Doctor, my brain hurts!
>>
>>
>
>
> --  
> Cheers!!
> Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
> Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June  
> 26-29, 2008!!
>
> For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.







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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 19:24:29 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:24:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52553403-BC0F-4BD1-99EF-1AB40918FFEA@phillymgclub.com>

Your whole problem in 3 words.


On Jun 14, 2008, at 7:20 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> from White Post

--  

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams



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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 15 19:27:36 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:27:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
In-Reply-To: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <D6C5A627-0CCF-431A-BABB-0B39C80F88B5@phillymgclub.com>

C'mon BZ, you can't even tell 25 lbs?? How much do you weigh any way??  
(Shuddup Ed!!)


On Jun 14, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

> I bought a top of the line Craftsmen about three years ago, figuring  
> that my
> old Wizard beam type was too old to be reliable. The first time I  
> used it, I
> broke a new Arp bolt because the damn thing wouldn't click. I set it  
> at 25
> pounds, clamped it in my vice, and pulled as hard as I could. It still
> didn't click. I took it back and they gave me another one, but I've  
> never
> trusted it. I always end up using the 40 year old Wizard.
> BZ
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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Board Member at Large
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 19:53:31 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
In-Reply-To: <BB6FCC0A-5B48-4B87-8D3E-F486297C90B6@phillymgclub.com>
References: <001b01c8cd55$93c059b0$8500a8c0@CT>
	<43840a7e0806130839h3cfcf9a6ue96f444b585eab56@mail.gmail.com>
	<934398560.20080613170505@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0806131707t1474819er527c5192db308142@mail.gmail.com>
	<BB6FCC0A-5B48-4B87-8D3E-F486297C90B6@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4855C79B.1090709@comcast.net>

Larry Macy wrote:
> What about the weather in Valley Forge PA??
>
>
>   
Larry
It's PennsylRAINia, you will have 4 days of torrential rain like we did 
in Carlisle.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 15 20:06:00 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:06:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More Mods for my Sprite
Message-ID: <4855CA88.5000505@comcast.net>

For Father's day my son gave me a satellite radio hook up for the Sprite 
so we have better tunes for the drive out to LOtO.
Yeah yeah, I know, everybody else likes to listen to their exhaust note, 
well I do too but like modern radio, it never changes, it's the same old 
song! At least now I can listen to specific decades or what ever for the 
2 day drive.
I have listened to the exhaust for several hours on the road, my head 
needs 2 days to get the exhaust buzz out of it.
So I can set my cruise and turn on the Sirius satellite tunes and point 
the Sprite west.
My son has his Ipod hooked up in the 58 and the 67 is getting trailered 
by my daughter's boy friend.
This way incase we have a major breakdown, we can just put the dead car 
on the trailer and drive the other.
Besides, wife and daughter in law are already complaining about the sun, 
rain, heat, and wind and it's 9 days before we even hit the road! WHIMPS!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 15 21:05:00 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:05:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Question re. Torque wrench with extension
References: <C479B65C.17B6E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<D6C5A627-0CCF-431A-BABB-0B39C80F88B5@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <033e01c8cf5d$c4292c80$6801a8c0@shop>

<<C'mon BZ, you can't even tell 25 lbs?? How much do you weigh any way??  
(Shuddup Ed!!)>>

Hey !!  Get OFF my case, Larry!!  I have NOT met the gent but I'll bet he IS a few pounds LESS than YOU are!!  Yer gonna need a shoe-horn & KY to get in your car SOON!!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 15 21:31:12 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:31:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More Mods for my Sprite
References: <4855CA88.5000505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <038401c8cf61$6d445030$6801a8c0@shop>

er, Frank...

<<At least now I can listen to specific decades >>

Radio had NOT been "invented" yet for YOUR "time frame"!!!!!!!

<<my head needs 2 days to get the exhaust buzz out of it.>>

THAT hasn't happened in the last FIFTY (at LEAST years, do what's da prob????

PPP

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 15 21:11:45 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 21:11:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Another "Pinky" FS in Cincinnati
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806152011p47bff189q510349c65211098d@mail.gmail.com>

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
NFI, just passing it along... I can check it out for anyone who is really
interested.
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Mon Jun 16 02:20:33 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!
Message-ID: <714274.73893.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

hmmm.
it seems the problem i have lies within the transmission... the speedo output
drive does not turn all the time...broken teeth i guess..
now...do I pull the engine and trans.. and spend a heap on a few piddly
plastic nissan parts? or do I get out the soldering iron and make a digital
speedometer as available here:

http://jaycar.com.au/ShowLargephoto.asp?id=5730&IMAGE=

$65

I am over pulling the driveline out for now.. digital it will be.

higher priorities include making a wooden dash that can accomodate my legs
better than the standard MK2 sprite dash.
I need to contort to do heel-toe throttle/braking...which you dont really need
to do with the datsun box...but it's fun innit?...and it sounds good.

I am very happy with my new 1275 engine... I really like the barking noise
from the exhaust when you back off the throttle and let the engine brake the
car.. so far it has set off 3 alarms in parked vehicles as I passed them.
thanks again Kent!

Andy






      Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.
www.yahoo7.com.au/mail

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun 16 05:25:06 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:25:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another "Pinky" FS in Cincinnati
References: <b777e2be0806152011p47bff189q510349c65211098d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12393730FA5F4240B559D03401B4DFDF@midget>

> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
> NFI, just passing it along... I can check it out for anyone who is really
> interested.

I don't think I had ever seen a picture of the engine compartment of a Deep 
Pink Sprite. UGH! 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun 16 05:36:35 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case  scenario!
References: <714274.73893.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7C2A19ABC4274E1F938FE7DC5484F3CF@midget>

Or possibly Door Number Three, buy a bicycle speedometer.
I use a Sigma Sport BC1200 (NLA) that will read up to 199.5MPH (ask the 
Germans, I have no idea why a bicycle would need that) and can accomodate 
wheel diameters from 1/8" to 8'. The only problem I have had with it is that 
it cannot keep up with a driveshaft-mounted pickup. Too many pulses per 
second for it to compute anything but current speed over 60MPH... unless you 
believe that you can drive from Chicago to Allentown, PA in less than 400 
miles. Using a magnet on the brakedrum, it works great. Current speed always 
on the display with average speed or max speed or clock or elapsed time or 
one of three odometer functions. Oh yes, it also does not have a light and 
losing the battery loses your odometer.
Do not be temped to go with the wireless option; I have been assured that it 
does not work well with metal in the way.
The BC1200 is no longer made, but it hass been replaced with a new line. 
details at www.sigmasport.com.
David Lieb 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 16 05:59:24 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case   scenario!
In-Reply-To: <7C2A19ABC4274E1F938FE7DC5484F3CF@midget>
Message-ID: <866126.54024.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Mon, 6/16/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> I use a Sigma Sport BC1200 (NLA) that will read up to
> 199.5MPH (ask the 
> Germans, I have no idea why a bicycle would need that) 

Germany's athletes always had the best steroids.

All home from Blackhawk? LD? PC? BHT? BHT, check Kati's myspace page, you got a little ink! reat timeby all in tough circumstances.

There is a .00002% chance Brazil trip will be canceled next to allow some LOTO time, but we'll see.

Ron

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 16 06:21:27 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another
Message-ID: <22175369.1213618887418.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I think that the story is fabricated and this is the pink one that was first for sale at the Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix BCD.  Then it sold on eBay.  The underside was painted in a nasty amount of gooey black undercoating.  The paintwork on the outside of the Sprite did look good.  I almost bought it to simply drive but couldn't get past the color.  Any other color that was offered and I would have owned it.  I was that close.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: Jun 16, 2008 7:25 AM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another "Pinky" FS in Cincinnati
>
>> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
>> NFI, just passing it along... I can check it out for anyone who is really
>> interested.
>
>I don't think I had ever seen a picture of the engine compartment of a Deep 
>Pink Sprite. UGH! 
>_______________________________________________


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 16 06:23:33 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:23:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye made it home.
Message-ID: <7275362.1213619013390.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I had a '58 RHD that had the body shell number and Anders C. and the BMHIT could not give me any info on the car.  They said according to records it didn't exist.  Good luck.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
>Sent: Jun 15, 2008 9:10 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye made it home.
>
>No time to post pics yet, headed for Father's day dinner.
>Wnen I found the body tag inside the right door post I knew I could get a
>correct vin so I grabbed the car.
>
>Body shell # is BAE 9711
>
>Is that going to make it a 58 or 59?
>
>Glen
>_______________________________________________
>

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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Jun 16 07:17:29 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:17:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine pull
In-Reply-To: <39707976BAE74E858640BC0EA01CC4CA@midget>
References: <d1e.28209358.35865fa7@aol.com>
	<39707976BAE74E858640BC0EA01CC4CA@midget>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029218C8@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

This is the Brazilian way!  Enjoy! Life's too short to hurry.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine pull

Some people sure seem to be in a hurry to get back to their honeydew
list!
I can't think of a better way to spend a day than puttering on a
Spridget,
so I generally set aside a nice relaxed Saturday to pull the drivetrain
out
and fix whatever needed done, then a nice relaxed Sunday to get
everything
back in, set the valves, set the timing, tune the carbs, etc. It isn't a

race for me ;-)

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 16 07:24:20 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:24:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP!!!!!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <e98d88090806141620m2017b017kcb6ac1a4d6662694@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080616082136.03a9cc80@nosimport.com>

Brad,
         If the problem with your slave is a bad seal, go to a local 
un-chained parts store (if you have any) and request a 7/8" brake 
cup. Should run about 35 cents. That's all there is inside, IF the 
seal is at fault. If the bore is fubar, you need a slave cylinder.

         Peter C.

At 06:20 PM 6/14/2008, Brad Fornal wrote:
>I got the reworked clutch master back from White Post on Tuesday. Put it in
>the car that night, and on Wednesday, tried to bleed the system. It didn't
>work, it kept putting out bubbles, and I didn't know why. I stopped, because
>I was getting pissed (that is US for angry, not drunk), and it is never good
>to work on your car when you are pissed.
>Today, I get back out to the car, and there is a puddle under it. This one
>is coming from the right side. I crawl under, and see that the slave is now
>shot. With a week to go until LotO, I now need a 68 clutch slave. AutoZone
>wants $25 for the seal, and three to five days to get it to me.
>Peter, Ed, anyone with one on the shelf that is in good shape....??
>
>HELP!!!!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 16 07:24:31 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:24:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!
References: <866126.54024.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c8cfb4$5062e320$6401a8c0@Larry>

Made it home, showered, drank a martini while reading the Sunday paper 
(thanks to Chris for getting that idea in my head), went to bed and slept 
for ten hours straight.

Fun weekend but enough broken race cars for a while.

Larry Daniels

79 MGB LE
60 Bugeye
67 Austin A60 Pickup, "Miss Pent" Ute (Inspiration by PPP)

"You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it
doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it
shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape."


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!


-- On Mon, 6/16/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> I use a Sigma Sport BC1200 (NLA) that will read up to
> 199.5MPH (ask the
> Germans, I have no idea why a bicycle would need that)

Germany's athletes always had the best steroids.

All home from Blackhawk? LD? PC? BHT? BHT, check Kati's myspace page, you 
got a little ink! reat timeby all in tough circumstances.

There is a .00002% chance Brazil trip will be canceled next to allow some 
LOTO time, but we'll see.

Ron
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun 16 07:26:47 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye photos
Message-ID: <200806161326.m5GDQlvq013963@cucujus.ucdavis.edu>

here's the new addition to the family


http://photobucket.com/newbugeye

Glen

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun 16 09:49:20 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:49:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye oddities
Message-ID: <81DEB5D72874494BA61DA4272A9D808D@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Every one of these that comes out of the bushes has its own set of PO created
anomalies, this one had a few as well.
A 1500 Triumph engine was dumped into the bay and supported by a crowbar.  Not
mounted in any way, it looks like they laid it in there to think about it. It
will be leaving. (Any Midget guys wanting a free 1500 lump and trans?) Disc
brakes already done(nice!) Front factory sway bar already in(nice).
The wheels were a real time-warp.  I had made a set like this back in the 70's
for a car.  The centers are punched from bugeye wheels and welded with
appropriate offset into a set of Carvair hoops.  A bugeye with over 6" of
rubber looks pretty silly.  I'll be replacing the wheels with something else
at some point.  Any of you racers out there that want to run SERIOUS amounts
of rubber on an English 4x4" wheel? Give me a call.
The forward hinge bonnet is truly a forward HINGE bonnet.  The PO welded a
gate hinge to the front of each leg and to the bottom edge of the bonnet.
Interesting approach.  It looks like he ground the bulge off the ends of the
hinge pins so they can be pulled to remove the bonnet.
Most everything else is pretty normal, no taco wrappers yet and no STOP signs
in the floors.
I'm returning the A35 to its original 948cc for commuting mileage, so I have a
nice street 1275 and 5-sp to go in it already.  So this gets rid of my extra
powertrain.
Resale red paint job, 1275 w/5sp, total rebuild, Sebring bonnet, and its hello
Barrett Jackson and some serious sucker money!!!!!!!
Alright, so I get a bit dreamy in the mornings.

Glen Byrns

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 16 10:27:07 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:27:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye oddities
In-Reply-To: <81DEB5D72874494BA61DA4272A9D808D@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F403F9173A211A740041D0EB8A90@phx.gbl>

This guy in Ottawa  ON Canada ( or thereabouts ) is looking to buy a good 
1500 ...

http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/3398992

NFI

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] new bugeye oddities
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:49:20 -0700

Every one of these that comes out of the bushes has its own set of PO 
created
anomalies, this one had a few as well.
A 1500 Triumph engine was dumped into the bay and supported by a crowbar.  
Not
mounted in any way, it looks like they laid it in there to think about it. 
It
will be leaving. (Any Midget guys wanting a free 1500 lump and trans?) Disc
brakes already done(nice!) Front factory sway bar already in(nice).
The wheels were a real time-warp.  I had made a set like this back in the 
70's
for a car.  The centers are punched from bugeye wheels and welded with
appropriate offset into a set of Carvair hoops.  A bugeye with over 6" of
rubber looks pretty silly.  I'll be replacing the wheels with something else
at some point.  Any of you racers out there that want to run SERIOUS amounts
of rubber on an English 4x4" wheel? Give me a call.
The forward hinge bonnet is truly a forward HINGE bonnet.  The PO welded a
gate hinge to the front of each leg and to the bottom edge of the bonnet.
Interesting approach.  It looks like he ground the bulge off the ends of the
hinge pins so they can be pulled to remove the bonnet.
Most everything else is pretty normal, no taco wrappers yet and no STOP 
signs
in the floors.
I'm returning the A35 to its original 948cc for commuting mileage, so I have 
a
nice street 1275 and 5-sp to go in it already.  So this gets rid of my extra
powertrain.
Resale red paint job, 1275 w/5sp, total rebuild, Sebring bonnet, and its 
hello
Barrett Jackson and some serious sucker money!!!!!!!
Alright, so I get a bit dreamy in the mornings.

Glen Byrns
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun 16 10:47:15 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:47:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] free 1500/trans
Message-ID: <1132AFD6EB054A51802F897FC107E4F1@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Free to whoever can take it away with the least effort from me, one 1500cc
engine and transmission, condition unknown, no carbs.
Includes one(1)  genuine slightly rusty crowbar that currently supports it in
the engine bay and a special bonus only for spridget listers.........one very
rusty midget driveshaft.  If you ask me nicely, I'll throw in the driver's
seat that comes from a 19?? What-the-????.

I'm in Davis CA.

Glen Byrns

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 10:54:27 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:54:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Diff lubricant
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806160954m36b259c7p3bb20b069dedf88f@mail.gmail.com>

All,

What is everyone using in their MKIII Midget Diffs these days?  Book calls
for SAE 90ES.  Is there something better? Different?

Cheers!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun 16 11:24:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:24:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather Forecast for LotO
Message-ID: <c93.2b2d7283.3587fbde@aol.com>

I had to use sun tan cream on the Saturday and wore shorts nearly every  day.
 
In a message dated 16/06/2008 02:51:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

Larry
It's PennsylRAINia, you will have 4 days of torrential rain  like we did 
in Carlisle.


-- 
Frank  Clarici

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun 16 11:33:02 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:33:02 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Diff lubricant
Message-ID: <d35.2bb59d90.3587fdce@aol.com>

Synthetic gear oil in the closest grade you can get (75-90) in what brand  
you can get.  Mobil SHC if you can get it, I can't so use Castrol.
 
In a message dated 16/06/2008 17:54:47 GMT Daylight Time,  bmwwxman at gmail.com 
writes:

All,

What is everyone using in their MKIII Midget Diffs these  days?  Book calls
for SAE 90ES.  Is there something better?  Different?

Cheers!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68  "Spridget

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 16 14:07:19 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:07:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but about time.
Message-ID: <C47C1607.17C0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

http://www.gretschguitars.com/new08/pdf/6129BZ.pdf

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 16 15:32:13 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:32:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but about time.
In-Reply-To: <C47C1607.17C0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C47C1607.17C0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <071F2E5C-C565-42EE-82DB-44CE3CE2CFB4@comcast.net>

It's finally happened.  I guess billy is dead or they wouldn't offer  
such a guitar.  He will be missed...

Lester


On Jun 16, 2008, at 3:07 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:



> http://www.gretschguitars.com/new08/pdf/6129BZ.pdf

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 17:00:46 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:00:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO trip
Message-ID: <9F48DFF6-1F72-46D4-B3F3-9BB6933D254E@gmail.com>

We're leaving eastern PA on Saturday to begin our trip to the meet.   
We plan to head to Pittsburgh to catch some of the Vintage Grand Prix  
before continuing on.

We're taking 70 W to St Louis and then to MO.  Since we have lots of  
time we would like to stop and see some local attractions along the  
way.  Any suggestions?

We'll be keeping a watch on the forecast St. Louis flooding.  If we do  
try to avoid St. Louis does anyone know of a good alternate route.

Sadly we won't have the Sprite because the 5 speed is out for repair  
so we'll be driving the plastic car and watching you guys have all the  
fun.


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
bugi1960 at gmail.com	

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 17:34:03 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:34:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO trip
In-Reply-To: <9F48DFF6-1F72-46D4-B3F3-9BB6933D254E@gmail.com>
References: <9F48DFF6-1F72-46D4-B3F3-9BB6933D254E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F072EA9B-9EAE-49B8-A9B7-099B33E4872F@gmail.com>

Well it turns out the Vintage Grand Prix isn't until July. (Thanks  
Charley).  But I'm still looking for things to see along the way.

Phil

On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Phil Nase wrote:

> We're leaving eastern PA on Saturday to begin our trip to the meet.   
> We plan to head to Pittsburgh to catch some of the Vintage Grand  
> Prix before continuing on.
>
> We're taking 70 W to St Louis and then to MO.  Since we have lots of  
> time we would like to stop and see some local attractions along the  
> way.  Any suggestions?
>
> We'll be keeping a watch on the forecast St. Louis flooding.  If we  
> do try to avoid St. Louis does anyone know of a good alternate route.
>
> Sadly we won't have the Sprite because the 5 speed is out for repair  
> so we'll be driving the plastic car and watching you guys have all  
> the fun.
>
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> bugi1960 at gmail.com	

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 16 19:04:37 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:04:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Message-ID: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>

Do NOT bye a chinese made air hose from horrible f%*k up!
I replaced my 16 year old USA hose back in March, I did this because the 
old hose was showing signs of cracking.
So today my 90 day old hose blows apart.
I am taking it back and I am personally going to shove it down the 
chinks throat and pull it out his EFin RECTUM!
All 50 feet of it!
Somebody needs to teach these assholes a lesson and since they have 
ruined everything they touch, I think I'll be the teacher.
I feel bad that more didn't die in the earthquake over there. Only 
70,000, no wonder, their houses were made in china.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From endicar at comcast.net  Mon Jun 16 19:05:48 2008
From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:05:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case   scenario!
In-Reply-To: <7C2A19ABC4274E1F938FE7DC5484F3CF@midget>
References: <714274.73893.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<7C2A19ABC4274E1F938FE7DC5484F3CF@midget>
Message-ID: <1213664748.6854.9.camel@me-laptop>

I think the current record for fastest bike is 82mph on a level surface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V2FgwN_re4&NR=1

On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 06:36 -0500, David Lieb wrote:
> Or possibly Door Number Three, buy a bicycle speedometer.
> I use a Sigma Sport BC1200 (NLA) that will read up to 199.5MPH (ask the 
> Germans, I have no idea why a bicycle would need that) and can accomodate 
> wheel diameters from 1/8" to 8'. The only problem I have had with it is that 
> it cannot keep up with a driveshaft-mounted pickup. Too many pulses per 
> second for it to compute anything but current speed over 60MPH... unless you 
> believe that you can drive from Chicago to Allentown, PA in less than 400 
> miles. Using a magnet on the brakedrum, it works great. Current speed always 
> on the display with average speed or max speed or clock or elapsed time or 
> one of three odometer functions. Oh yes, it also does not have a light and 
> losing the battery loses your odometer.
> Do not be temped to go with the wireless option; I have been assured that it 
> does not work well with metal in the way.
> The BC1200 is no longer made, but it hass been replaced with a new line. 
> details at www.sigmasport.com.
> David Lieb 
> _______________________________________________

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Jun 16 19:30:26 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:30:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
References: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <485713B2.1070508@cox.net>

Come on, Frank!  Tell us what you REALLY think!

(ducking))

;^)

Paul


Frank Clarici wrote:
> Do NOT bye a chinese made air hose from horrible f%*k up!
> I replaced my 16 year old USA hose back in March, I did this because the 
> old hose was showing signs of cracking.
> So today my 90 day old hose blows apart.
> I am taking it back and I am personally going to shove it down the 
> chinks throat and pull it out his EFin RECTUM!
> All 50 feet of it!
> Somebody needs to teach these assholes a lesson and since they have 
> ruined everything they touch, I think I'll be the teacher.
> I feel bad that more didn't die in the earthquake over there. Only 
> 70,000, no wonder, their houses were made in china.

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Jun 16 19:49:49 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:49:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <061720080149.13590.4857183D000ADDB20000351622230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

I hope you don't really mean that.

That's a terrible thing to say.

 
  -------------- Original message from Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>: --------------


> I feel bad that more didn't die in the earthquake over there. Only 
> 70,000, no wonder, their houses were made in china.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ   

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Jun 16 20:08:05 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:08:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
References: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48571C85.30906@smarc.net>

Those weird plastic hoses at horrible freight are pretty scary! They 
swell and stretch like crazy... Occasionally HF will have Goodyear 
rubber hoses on sale; those are the ones I like.

Frank Clarici wrote:
> Do NOT bye a chinese made air hose from horrible f%*k up!
> I replaced my 16 year old USA hose back in March, I did this because the 
> old hose was showing signs of cracking.
> So today my 90 day old hose blows apart.

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun 16 21:12:45 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:12:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
References: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <02f101c8d028$03e4ba90$6801a8c0@shop>

<<their houses were made in china.>>

Wonder where the nails came from, Frank???

LMAO!!!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 16 22:24:53 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:24:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!
In-Reply-To: <00ba01c8cfb4$5062e320$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <968115.27457.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Nobody broke until you got there.

Seriously, thanks as always for the support. My Tilton clutch is on its way. 

--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Fun weekend but enough broken race cars for a while.
> 
> Larry Daniels

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Jun 17 00:47:31 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:47:31 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning - Chi. Hoses
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3C74218D835D5052E1C34C8A80@phx.gbl>

Well, we can see who really gets hosed.

Can't beat Globalization for reasonable prices for crap products produced by cheap labor for the sake of the multi-national corp. bottom line in the name of incresed upper level executive compensation.
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Jun 17 00:57:30 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:57:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10729864C9BD0F7EEF10C2C8A80@phx.gbl>

Well....

neither China or any other nation certainly isn't to blame for globalization in terms of what goes on here in the USA
accordingly.

WE are considering our government approved NAFTA and otherwise enabled/
bought globalization to become fact over here....which sure has done great
things for the economy and our nation's citizens in terms of the balance of trade and value of the US dollar.

Well done Congress/Fed. Gov't. Way to 
go...and putting environmental issues before energy issues to the extent we've
been doing will result in a pristine environment. To bad we probably won't survive economically to the extent our kids will enjoy it! 

Too bad...all that clean air going to waste.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: tinydog at snet.net
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:49 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning

tinydog sez:

I hope you don't really mean that.

That's a terrible thing to say.

 
  -------------- Original message from Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>: --------------


> I feel bad that more didn't die in the earthquake over there. Only 
> 70,000, no wonder, their houses were made in china.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ   
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From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Jun 17 01:57:59 2008
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 00:57:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for Sale
Message-ID: <48576E87.1010408@cox.net>

This one's a little smaller than most. :-) Easy to park though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250260168923

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jun 17 02:22:54 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:22:54 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <48570DA5.1040304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c8d053$584307b0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

So why does China - or anywhere else for that matter - make rubbish
products?
It is not because they are Chinese, but because firms like HF will order
them - and often actually specify and commission them.

And why do firms like HF order them?
Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low prices.

Make the distinction between value and price and you have a solution.
Buy good value items - which may or may not be the cheapest - and accept the
quality that you then pay for.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Frank Clarici
Sent: 17 June 2008 02:05
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning


Do NOT bye a chinese made air hose from horrible f%*k up!
I replaced my 16 year old USA hose back in March, I did this because the
old hose was showing signs of cracking.
So today my 90 day old hose blows apart.
I am taking it back and I am personally going to shove it down the
chinks throat and pull it out his EFin RECTUM!
All 50 feet of it!
Somebody needs to teach these assholes a lesson and since they have
ruined everything they touch, I think I'll be the teacher.
I feel bad that more didn't die in the earthquake over there. Only
70,000, no wonder, their houses were made in china.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From midget at maxengland.com  Tue Jun 17 03:50:51 2008
From: midget at maxengland.com (midget at maxengland.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:50:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for Sale
In-Reply-To: <48576E87.1010408@cox.net>
References: <48576E87.1010408@cox.net>
Message-ID: <42672.212.166.46.72.1213696251.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Does anybody know if a 1/24 spridget model was ever made? can't find
anything on google..

Max
http://www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget

> This one's a little smaller than most. :-) Easy to park though.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250260168923
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 17 06:02:03 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:02:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!
References: <968115.27457.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02ac01c8d071$f566b550$6401a8c0@Larry>

Hah!!

Try to blame it on me!  Your wheel bearing wouldn't have gone out nearly 
costing you your car and your life and your brakes and clutch wouldn't have 
gone south if you just wouldn't drive so darn fast out there.  Slow down. 
Take it easy.  Smell the roses.

Or just do what Deikis did and spend the better part of both days taking 
your car apart and putting it back together.  Nothing gets broken when your 
car is up on jack stands.

Just trying to help,

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Larry Daniels" 
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case scenario!


Nobody broke until you got there.

Seriously, thanks as always for the support. My Tilton clutch is on its way.

--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Fun weekend but enough broken race cars for a while.
>
> Larry Daniels

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun 17 06:18:29 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:18:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO trip
In-Reply-To: <F072EA9B-9EAE-49B8-A9B7-099B33E4872F@gmail.com>
References: <9F48DFF6-1F72-46D4-B3F3-9BB6933D254E@gmail.com>
	<F072EA9B-9EAE-49B8-A9B7-099B33E4872F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54F80343-ADBF-4EC5-A1C4-D91A3955367F@phillymgclub.com>

The St Louis Arch has a pretty cool museum. And I think you can still  
ride to the top in little tiny drum barrel type cars. The view is  
pretty cool, but I hope the replaced the windows since I was there  
about 15 years ago.

Going though St Louis one trip was kinda wild. I was driving a  
Suburban loaded with people (9) and camping gear, returning to PA  
after a canoe/camping trip on the Illinois River in OK. We hit the  
rat's nest of interchanges over the river just after dusk. Trying to  
find an off ramp to I70 East over the River, surrounded by 18 wheelers  
and crazy people, while everyone else  in the Suburban is going,  
"Cool!! Look at all the great Fireworks over the River!!!!' I tried to  
watch, but it was either have the fireworks be the last thing any of  
us ever saw, or miss the show. I am still here, so . . . .

Have a GREAT Trip Phil, (and to all others going to LOTO) I'll miss ya  
at MG '08.

Larry

On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Phil Nase wrote:

> Well it turns out the Vintage Grand Prix isn't until July. (Thanks
> Charley).  But I'm still looking for things to see along the way.
>
> Phil
>
> On Jun 16, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Phil Nase wrote:
>
>> We're leaving eastern PA on Saturday to begin our trip to the meet.
>> We plan to head to Pittsburgh to catch some of the Vintage Grand
>> Prix before continuing on.
>>
>> We're taking 70 W to St Louis and then to MO.  Since we have lots of
>> time we would like to stop and see some local attractions along the
>> way.  Any suggestions?
>>
>> We'll be keeping a watch on the forecast St. Louis flooding.  If we
>> do try to avoid St. Louis does anyone know of a good alternate route.
>>
>> Sadly we won't have the Sprite because the 5 speed is out for repair
>> so we'll be driving the plastic car and watching you guys have all
>> the fun.
>>
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
>> bugi1960 at gmail.com	
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".



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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 17 06:25:06 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:25:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo issues.... worst case  scenario!
In-Reply-To: <02ac01c8d071$f566b550$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39D586AD9401982307DBE7B8A80@phx.gbl>

Unless you touch it. :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>

Nothing gets broken when your car is up on jack stands.

Larry

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Jun 17 07:46:34 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:46:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Disabled list activity
Message-ID: <68A645A0-D500-49FA-9F9A-95648A66B1DC@valentinephoto.net>

Hey All,

Today I got the following message;

"Your membership in the mailing list Spridgets has been disabled due to
excessive bounces"

I haven't changed anything concerning my membership or email settings  
recently........

Anyone else getting this?

Kevin V.
Tuscarora, PA

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Tue Jun 17 09:31:51 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:31:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spare wheel bearings and spacers?
Message-ID: <30B66595-619D-4976-BFB3-50791BE448EC@dartmouth.edu>

Hi,

I am mocking up a front suspension and am in need of the four bearings  
and two oil seals for the front disk brake hub/spindles.

If anyone has serviceable sets in their spares bin please contact me  
off list. Don't worry I won't be racing, let alone driving on them -  
though if they have some life left that would be a bonus.

Given this is just a mock-up, I am looking for a really cheap or free  
(I will pay for shipping of course) alternative to the $60+ kits.

Of course if you want them back when I am done (probably next year at  
the rate I am moving) I'm more than happy to return them (this one  
falls into the free category tho).

Thanks,
-m

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 17 09:39:42 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:39:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8d053$584307b0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <C47D28CE.17C6A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low prices.
That's not true. It's a matter of not being able to get anything else.
You can pay more, but it's still the same hose. Nobody sells quality any
more.

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Tue Jun 17 10:27:23 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:27:23 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <C47D28CE.17C6A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c8d097$06643a10$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Billy, It is my belief that this is an incremental degeneration in the
quality of what is available.

Those firms that did once sell better quality items - and charged more for
them - no longer stock those items because insufficient numbers of people
bought them. The masses look only at price, and choose the lowest possible
price. Anyone selling quality items at a higher price is gradually edged out
of the business. Those few more discerning buyers who would be prepared to
pay more are insufficient to keep those suppliers in business.

Add to this the harder issue of distinguishing high quality from an
apparently identical item which in use turns out to be rubbish. e.g.
hyraulic seals for brake and clutch cylinders that look identical, but only
last a few months before they disintegrate.

-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com]
Sent: 17 June 2008 16:40
To: Guy Weller; 'Frank Clarici'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning


> Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low prices.
That's not true. It's a matter of not being able to get anything else.
You can pay more, but it's still the same hose. Nobody sells quality any
more.


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From daredelvis at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 10:35:34 2008
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:35:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <C47D28CE.17C6A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <000c01c8d053$584307b0$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<C47D28CE.17C6A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <531383560806170935h3864d145p47f457ba15056f02@mail.gmail.com>

Like the crap hose from Home Depot that only lasted a year.

I have had good luck with the Goodyear hoses that HF sells.  They seem to
last at least 3 years, and they are about half the price of the Home Depot
junk.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
wrote:

> > Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low prices.
> That's not true. It's a matter of not being able to get anything else.
> You can pay more, but it's still the same hose. Nobody sells quality any
> more.
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 17 11:04:50 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:04:50 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <C47D28CE.17C6A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>

I see it more as the midrange that's hard to find.  If money is no object 
then you're okay, and if you like to drive and shop then cheap is available, 
but the middle class stuff is gone.

For me, I see this as high end ( correct me if I'm wrong )
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=677
( Made in USA contractor grade )

and I wouldn't expect the same performance from this:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42185



----Original Message Follows----
From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>

 > Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low prices.
That's not true. It's a matter of not being able to get anything else.
You can pay more, but it's still the same hose. Nobody sells quality any
more.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 17 13:21:43 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:21:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C47D5CD7.17C92%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I would never buy a hose from HF because they only come with male fittings
on both ends. Sears hoses have male/female connectors. Hose Man will make
anything you want. It's not cheaper if I have to modify all of my air lines
to make it work.
BZ

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 17 13:39:16 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:39:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <09F08437-B649-4F7C-B0CA-16D3175163DC@comcast.net>

AS I see it I am being offered two products that claim to do the same  
thing and one is cheaper.  Why *NOT* but the cheaper one? Most of the  
time the cheaper product works as advertised with no drawbacks but if  
not it's a real PITA.

I order SAAB parts from eEuro parts, they offered 2 different trans  
linkages, Factory and another brand, 50% difference in price.  eEuro  
stands behind their bits so when the cheap on didn't cut it they sent  
a Factory brand part.  When I take the cheap one off I'll do some  
measuring on it to see what's different but it may be something like  
metal temper which can't be judged well by me.

Lester

Oh yeah, congrats on the Guitar man, that was just a little good  
natured ribbing..


On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> I see it more as the midrange that's hard to find.  If money is no  
> object
> then you're okay, and if you like to drive and shop then cheap is  
> available,
> but the middle class stuff is gone.
>
> For me, I see this as high end ( correct me if I'm wrong )
> http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php? 
> products_id=677
> ( Made in USA contractor grade )
>
> and I wouldn't expect the same performance from this:
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=42185
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>
>> Because their customers - Frank included - cannot resist the low  
>> prices.
> That's not true. It's a matter of not being able to get anything else.
> You can pay more, but it's still the same hose. Nobody sells  
> quality any
> more.

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 17 16:54:33 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:54:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
References: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>
	<09F08437-B649-4F7C-B0CA-16D3175163DC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <009101c8d0cd$1cb583b0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<I order SAAB parts from eEuro parts, they offered 2 different trans linkages, Factory and another brand, 50% difference in price.  eEuro stands behind their bits so when the cheap on didn't cut it they sent a Factory brand part.>>

Well Lester, IMHO buying the 50% off stuff is no different than going to Vegas and pulling a handle!!!  I know you folks consider you "time" is "free" because you are either retired or "it's just my hobby"!!!

BUT, for VALUING you car for Insurance one MUST keep track of your time.  Doing the 50% off deal is just a TOTAL WASTE of your time.

Flame suit on<G>!!

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 16:15:18 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:15:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Nice concept car
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806171515t20ac1fc2mfdac7ca309e9a4f3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1758577

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 17 16:33:15 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:33:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Disabled list activity
Message-ID: <061720082233.14526.48583BAB000370C9000038BE2215561264C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Kevin:

That email was misdirected. It was meant for Tigger.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "K. Valentine" <kevin at valentinephoto.net>
> Hey All,
> 
> Today I got the following message;
> 
> "Your membership in the mailing list Spridgets has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces"
> 
> I haven't changed anything concerning my membership or email settings  
> recently........
> 
> Anyone else getting this?
> 
> Kevin V.
> Tuscarora, PA
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 17 21:16:43 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:16:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "The Bombs"...
Message-ID: <01d801c8d0f1$c43d8140$6801a8c0@shop>

is an episode of "Livin' the Low Life" on Speed TV !!

You will NOT believe how TRUE TO original, but "adapted to Low Ride", the early American Iron these folks have re-stored !!!!

UN-REAL !!!  I mean BEAUTIFUL cars with their only "drawback" being that HIDDEN from "view" is the fact that these cars ARE "Low Riders"
(which 99.9% of the time I abhor<G>)!!!!!

It is SO worth watching!!!  These folks are making LBCdom look "lean"!!

UN-BELIEVABLE !!!

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 17 20:58:58 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:58:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
Message-ID: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Folks,

The foot brake can lock all four wheels without excessive travel.
The hand brake won't lock the rear wheels!
The cable adjuster at the diff is at the end of it's range...

What can I do to make the handbrake work like it should ??? 
TIA....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 17 21:06:51 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:06:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48587BCB.207@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> The foot brake can lock all four wheels without excessive travel.
> The hand brake won't lock the rear wheels!
> The cable adjuster at the diff is at the end of it's range...
>
> What can I do to make the handbrake work like it should ??? 
>
>   
Sounds like you need a new cable, they do stretch over time.
I have had some luck with one of those cable space taker-uppers.
Available at most parts stores, it is a hook type thing and it fits over 
the cable, you tighten the nuts and the hook pulls the cable to shorten it.
The only problem is the is no room for this device at the end of the 
cable, you need to install it inside the tunnel and watch it doesn't hit 
the drive shaft.
I used one once way back and  it worked.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From herby at herbytoys.com  Tue Jun 17 21:06:17 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:06:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Custom MGB
Message-ID: <001901c8d0f0$4755e880$6501a8c0@HERBYZ>

This is interesting. Air ride on 'B' ?!

 

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/719036793.html

 

 

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jun 17 22:14:45 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:14:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale
Message-ID: <053901c8d0f9$d788ccc0$9d947e4c@HP>

Received this from a friend.  NFI

Hi Bud,
Just got this 59 Bug Eye.......Been in a dry garage for close to 20 
years......all original except for a 1275 engine. Has not run in years but 
the engine turns over freely...minimal rust. The body has been banged around 
but no structural damage. Good top, tonneau and top frame. No side curtains. 
I will have a clear title in my name in a week. I can take more photos as 
well.....
$2500 will take it home.......Email me or phone 510 459 7270......
Thanks,
Jerry

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jun 17 22:24:05 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale
References: <053901c8d0f9$d788ccc0$9d947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <057201c8d0fb$2575b960$9d947e4c@HP>

Forgot to add that I have 2 pictures of that Bugeye. Email me off list and I 
will forward them to u if interested.

millerls at ado13.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:14 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale


> Received this from a friend.  NFI
>
> Hi Bud,
> Just got this 59 Bug Eye.......Been in a dry garage for close to 20
> years......all original except for a 1275 engine. Has not run in years but
> the engine turns over freely...minimal rust. The body has been banged 
> around
> but no structural damage. Good top, tonneau and top frame. No side 
> curtains.
> I will have a clear title in my name in a week. I can take more photos as
> well.....
> $2500 will take it home.......Email me or phone 510 459 7270......
> Thanks,
> Jerry
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jun 17 22:34:53 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:34:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Les Paul
Message-ID: <4858906D.3000908@wi.net>

   As I am preparing the Sprite for LOTO I thought I may take a break and
   head  to  downtown  Milwaukee  and  Discovery  World on Lake Michigan.
   Passing  this  on  for  those  in  search of one of the keepers of the
   grail.

     Special Member Hours to Help Kickoff the Les Paul House of Sound
     Wisconsin music and technology legend Les Paul will be here to open
     his  "House  of Sound" Exhibit on Saturday, June 21st. Les and some
     special guests will "cut the ribbon" to open the exhibit at 5 pm on
     Saturday,  and  then  Les  will play a show at the Pabst Theater on
     Saturday night.
     Please note that Les Paul's House of Sound exhibit will not be open
     to  the  public  during  the day on Saturday, June 21st. Even at 93
     years  old,  Les Paul lives the life of a rock and roll star, which
     means  that  he  stays  up  until  dawn  and  has  breakfast in the
     mid-afternoon.  Because  we  want Les to be the first person to set
     foot  in  his  new  exhibit, we are cutting the ribbons on Saturday
     evening.  Les  has  been waiting 93 years for this, so the least we
     can do is let him keep his "regular" hours.
     But  you  can be among the first members of the Milwaukee community
     to  visit  the exhibit when it opens to the general public starting
     Sunday,  June  22nd  at  9  am.  There  is no additional charge for
     members  to  view  Les  Paul's  House  of  Sound. And we are giving
     members   special   opportunities   to   get  a  first  look  at  a
     one-of-a-kind   experience   which   mixes   innovation,   history,
     technology  and  some  really cool guitars. Discovery World will be
     open  from  9-5  on  Monday June 23rd and Monday June 30th. Special
     hours  for  this  limited  time exhibit that you won't see anywhere
     else in the world! 
     For    more    information   about   the   exhibit   please   visit
     http://www.discoveryworld.org/lespaul.php

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Jun 17 22:29:39 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:29:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
References: <BAY112-F382A4D0D61BE4FB21E6630B8A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <010d01c8d0fb$efafe570$6600a8c0@dave>

Ahh, Ingersoll Rand, the company based in  Hamilton, Bermuda to avoid US 
taxes.  Here's a press release from 1997:
AsiaInfo Services 11-18-1997 Ingersoll-Rand to Produce Pneumatic Tools in 
Guilin GUILIN, November 18, AsiaInfo Services, Inc -- The American 
Ingersoll-Rand (China) Investment Co Ltd announced recently to establish a 
joint venture with Guilin Pneumatic Tool Factory. The name of the joint 
venture is Ingersoll-Rand (Guilin) Tool Co Ltd. ...

And from 2007:
Ingersoll-Rand Company has completed the acquisition of the remaining 
25-percent interest in Superay International Limited, a manufacturer of 
pneumatic tools based in Changzhou, China. Terms of the transaction were not 
disclosed. Ingersoll-Rand acquired a 75-percent interest in Superay in a 
series of transactions in 2002.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning



> For me, I see this as high end ( correct me if I'm wrong )
> http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=677
> ( Made in USA contractor grade )

From midget at maxengland.com  Wed Jun 18 01:52:07 2008
From: midget at maxengland.com (midget at maxengland.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:52:07 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <48587BCB.207@comcast.net>
References: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com> <48587BCB.207@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <56728.212.166.46.72.1213775527.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>

Hi Dave,

Check out Colin's website : http://www.spriteparts.com.au/handbrake.htm

It does work. I had the same problem with my 68 midget. Handbrake pointing
towards the sky, adjusted at the end at the diff and hardly braking at
all. You need to back off completely the handbrake, then adjust your rear
brakes linings and only then, connect the handbrake.

My handbrake now operates at the 3rd or 4th click, though it still is
adjusted at the end under the diff, so Frank is probably right in saying
that cables may stretch.

Max, Belgium
68 and 70 MKIII Midgets
http://www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget

> Dave G. wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> The foot brake can lock all four wheels without excessive travel.
>> The hand brake won't lock the rear wheels!
>> The cable adjuster at the diff is at the end of it's range...
>>
>> What can I do to make the handbrake work like it should ???
>>
>>
> Sounds like you need a new cable, they do stretch over time.
> I have had some luck with one of those cable space taker-uppers.
> Available at most parts stores, it is a hook type thing and it fits over
> the cable, you tighten the nuts and the hook pulls the cable to shorten
> it.
> The only problem is the is no room for this device at the end of the
> cable, you need to install it inside the tunnel and watch it doesn't hit
> the drive shaft.
> I used one once way back and  it worked.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Jun 18 04:29:28 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:29:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV9D0E6A1CD4AEF502666BBC8AB0@phx.gbl>

"So why does China make rubbish products?"

You're absolutely right, Guy, IMHO....

but unfortunately, the economically healthy
USmiddle class of the 50's/60's who's amount of expendable income justified buying "quality" is something of the past.

Relative income for the working class has generally declined over the years since then to the extent the middle class is slowly disappearing into the upper poor as illegal aliens become the new taxpayer supported super-poor.

The average working class can't afford the quality of yesterday, accordingly. Hell, back in the 50's the avg middle class family could afford a new car every four years and in the late 50's, 2 every 6 years. At least one
was paid for in cash or 6 mos and the 2nd
may have been financed over 12.

And I worked for my Dad and on my own
during summers cutting lawns, etc., shoveling snow in winter and other jobs
held so as to pay for my own Sprites, MG's, etc., over a period a year or 18 mos., max.

Today working class people lease or finance over many years. Government says
cost of living has increased 1500% since mid-60's. Upper level exec. compensation has kept up or exceeded same handily whereas avg. working class relative income 
has declined.

And without "collective bargaining" it's gonna stay that way or get worse.

So per centage-wise of our income we spend the same, but for less quality.

I wonder what one of the original thick/ heavy vinyl or canvas 50's tops with the thick plastic windows  would actually cost today. I betcha around US$800 or so, easily. Maybe even more considering our dollar is tanking beautifully in today's "globalized" world. God, the quality of fabric was so thick and heavy the damn things used to last about forever as compare to today's
thinner, lighter, faster shrinking stuff.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Jun 18 05:33:09 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:33:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] A Few Sprite Shirts Left
Message-ID: <ce9.35235a0d.358a4c75@aol.com>

I still have a few Sprite tee-shirts left. The front of the shirt has a  
left/front black & white image of a Bugeye, and includes the Sprite  arrow logo. 
The following sizes and colors remain available:
 
(4) medium red
(3) medium blue
(2) x large red
(1) xx large red
 
I highly doubt additional runs of this shirt will be made, so order  yours 
while they remain. I can ship this week, in time for the 50th Celebration  at 
LotO. I can email a picture if you'd like.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for 
fuel-efficient used cars.      (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 07:40:36 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:40:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <010d01c8d0fb$efafe570$6600a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37722C4BD961926757CE9FB8AB0@phx.gbl>

So ... is there some loophole that allows them to write "Made in USA" on it?

I have heard that in Canada, you can advertize as "Made in Canada" if there 
is a certain percent of the manufacturing done in the country.

BTW, don't take this as me saying that just becasue something is made in 
North America that that necessarily makes it a higher quality.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:29:39 -0700

Ahh, Ingersoll Rand, the company based in  Hamilton, Bermuda to avoid US
taxes.  Here's a press release from 1997:
AsiaInfo Services 11-18-1997 Ingersoll-Rand to Produce Pneumatic Tools in
Guilin GUILIN, November 18, AsiaInfo Services, Inc -- The American
Ingersoll-Rand (China) Investment Co Ltd announced recently to establish a
joint venture with Guilin Pneumatic Tool Factory. The name of the joint
venture is Ingersoll-Rand (Guilin) Tool Co Ltd. ...

And from 2007:
Ingersoll-Rand Company has completed the acquisition of the remaining
25-percent interest in Superay International Limited, a manufacturer of
pneumatic tools based in Changzhou, China. Terms of the transaction were not
disclosed. Ingersoll-Rand acquired a 75-percent interest in Superay in a
series of transactions in 2002.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning



 > For me, I see this as high end ( correct me if I'm wrong )
 > 
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=677
 > ( Made in USA contractor grade )

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 07:53:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:53:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Saving gas
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37C93D7DDDCB5B3D0A7B00B8AB0@phx.gbl>

Drive it like you broke it ... ?

http://finance.sympatico.msn.ca/investing/insight/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8077182

( There seems to be a broken link for the scanguage, but google puts it
here: www.scangauge.com <http://www.scangauge.com/>  )

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 18 09:29:41 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:29:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A Few Sprite Shirts Left
In-Reply-To: <ce9.35235a0d.358a4c75@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C47E77F5.17CDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> and includes the Sprite  arrow logo
What color is the arrow?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 09:40:00 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:40:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] what you don't want your rocker repair to look like
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40890CF1FF6C549788F045B8AB0@phx.gbl>

http://london.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1965-MG-Midget-W0QQAdIdZ53522080

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 09:56:24 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:56:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] what you don't want your rocker repair to look like
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F40890CF1FF6C549788F045B8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37EEB34F91B153501F348EB8AB0@phx.gbl>

... and what is with the shape of the rear fender behind the wheel?

----Original Message Follows----

http://london.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1965-MG-Midget-W0QQAdIdZ53522080

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jun 18 10:02:30 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:02:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] what you don't want your rocker repair to look like
References: <BAY112-F37EEB34F91B153501F348EB8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001601c8d15c$b68b0660$01fea8c0@C600>

If that's a $5,000 car, mine should be worth at least $12,500, even before I
paint her.

Kate

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jun 18 10:04:26 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:04:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] what you don't want your rocker repair to look like
References: <BAY112-F37EEB34F91B153501F348EB8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001701c8d15c$fc0bfe60$01fea8c0@C600>

 If that's a $5000 car, mine should be worth at least $12,599, even before I
paint her.

Kate

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 10:19:07 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:19:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] what you don't want your rocker repair to look like
In-Reply-To: <001701c8d15c$fc0bfe60$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3629DFB2A40B2EC09B760AB8AB0@phx.gbl>

Well ... that's what he's asking.  I see the asking prices going up, but I 
don't see much actually moving.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Kate" <kgb at frontiernet.net>

If that's a $5000 car, mine should be worth at least $12,599, even before I
paint her.

Kate

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun 18 10:45:16 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:45:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
Message-ID: <061301c8d162$b06d9170$9d947e4c@HP>

We are leaving at 0.dark.30 in the morning for Colorado then on to LotO. 
Still got a hundred things to do. Started BUGZUKI this morning and it 
sounded like the fan belt was squealing. After running for maybe 2 minutes I 
shut it off and got out the tools already loaded in the truck to tighten the 
belt. I touched the end of the alternator pulley and damn near fried my 
finger. Smoking hot. So on top of everything else I have to swap out the 
alternator today. Not as simple to get to as the Sprite alternator is.

@#$%^%^#&^

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun 18 10:59:54 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:59:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
References: <061301c8d162$b06d9170$9d947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <E1DCF4AEE2BA4D4B9F899822198490B6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Ditto,
Mostly packed, leaving early Saturday morning towards Elko, and a quick 
check under the bonnet detected a bad looking heater valve hose.  New one 
should be here this evening and swapped in tonight.  One gallon of 
Rotella-T, one gallon distilled water, bottle of Rain-X, two gallon gas can, 
cell phone, laptop(to talk to Megasquirt if needed), camera, GPS, chargers 
for all the above, tools.
Oh yeah, I guess I'll need to wear some clothes, now where to put them?  I'm 
not really paying enough attention to my work today, too busy trembling with 
antici.................................pation.

I'm so into this that I haven't even taken a single part off the new bugeye. 
My wife is in shock that I haven't disappeared under it from the moment it 
came home.  Its just going to have to wait until July.

Glen B


> We are leaving at 0.dark.30 in the morning for Colorado then on to LotO.
> Still got a hundred things to do. Started BUGZUKI this morning and it
> sounded like the fan belt was squealing. After running for maybe 2 minutes 
> I
> shut it off and got out the tools already loaded in the truck to tighten 
> the
> belt. I touched the end of the alternator pulley and damn near fried my
> finger. Smoking hot. So on top of everything else I have to swap out the
> alternator today. Not as simple to get to as the Sprite alternator is.
>
> @#$%^%^#&^
> _______________________________________________

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 18 11:11:27 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:11:27 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Message-ID: <c9c.2569fa13.358a9bbf@aol.com>

Made, assembled and manufactured all have different legal meanings in the  
UK, I think.  Same sort of issues with food if you buy foreign meat but  make it 
into a pie in Britain you can say British pie or something like  that.
 
In a message dated 18/06/2008 14:40:59 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

So ...  is there some loophole that allows them to write "Made in USA" on it?

I  have heard that in Canada, you can advertize as "Made in Canada" if there  
is a certain percent of the manufacturing done in the country.

BTW,  don't take this as me saying that just becasue something is made in 
North  America that that necessarily makes it a higher  quality.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 18 11:16:52 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:16:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Heater Hose  Re:  @#$%^%^#&^
Message-ID: <d00.3394df18.358a9d04@aol.com>

I've just done the UK orders for Silicone heater hoses and vertical flow  
radiator hoses having brought back David Doirons tooling from the USA to the  UK.
 
So, watch this space for vertical flow radiator silicone hose kits - black,  
black with logo, blue with logo, maybe purple.  Including the question mark  
shape heater hose that goes from the back of the cylinder head to the heater up 
 to when the changed from the square box type heater.
 

Regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 18/06/2008 18:00:36 GMT Daylight Time,  
grbyrns at ucdavis.edu writes:

and a  quick 
check under the bonnet detected a bad looking heater valve  hose.

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 18 11:15:30 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:15:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
In-Reply-To: <E1DCF4AEE2BA4D4B9F899822198490B6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <061301c8d162$b06d9170$9d947e4c@HP>
	<E1DCF4AEE2BA4D4B9F899822198490B6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080618121236.03ae0c38@nosimport.com>

So tell me...... what are you using for a gas can.  I'm driving my 64 
Mini with a 6 gallon tank, and I usually carry a spare gallon in 
plastic. I'm not sure it is any less dangerous than the original, but 
I was poking around looking unsuccessfully for a metal can.

I was also planning on meandering through Iowa.  All roads seem to be flooded.

Peter C.

=
At 11:59 AM 6/18/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
>Ditto,
>Mostly packed, leaving early Saturday morning towards Elko, and a quick
>check under the bonnet detected a bad looking heater valve hose.  New one
>should be here this evening and swapped in tonight.  One gallon of
>Rotella-T, one gallon distilled water, bottle of Rain-X, two gallon gas can,
>cell phone, laptop(to talk to Megasquirt if needed),

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun 18 11:26:44 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:26:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
References: <061301c8d162$b06d9170$9d947e4c@HP><E1DCF4AEE2BA4D4B9F899822198490B6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080618121236.03ae0c38@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <001101c8d168$7bb088b0$9d947e4c@HP>

I carry a 2.5 gallon plastic gas container in the Sprite.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^


> So tell me...... what are you using for a gas can.  I'm driving my 64
> Mini with a 6 gallon tank, and I usually carry a spare gallon in
> plastic. I'm not sure it is any less dangerous than the original, but
> I was poking around looking unsuccessfully for a metal can.
>
> I was also planning on meandering through Iowa.  All roads seem to be 
> flooded.
>
> Peter C.
>
> =
> At 11:59 AM 6/18/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
>>Ditto,
>>Mostly packed, leaving early Saturday morning towards Elko, and a quick
>>check under the bonnet detected a bad looking heater valve hose.  New one
>>should be here this evening and swapped in tonight.  One gallon of
>>Rotella-T, one gallon distilled water, bottle of Rain-X, two gallon gas 
>>can,
>>cell phone, laptop(to talk to Megasquirt if needed),
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 11:44:31 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:44:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Heater Hose Re: @#$%^%^#&^
In-Reply-To: <d00.3394df18.358a9d04@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36F0A201B5916BFBFF140EB8AB0@phx.gbl>

What?  No BRG, olive green and tartan red ??


----Original Message Follows----
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com

I've just done the UK orders for Silicone heater hoses and vertical flow
radiator hoses having brought back David Doirons tooling from the USA to the 
  UK.

So, watch this space for vertical flow radiator silicone hose kits - black,
black with logo, blue with logo, maybe purple.  Including the question mark
shape heater hose that goes from the back of the cylinder head to the heater 
up
  to when the changed from the square box type heater.


Regards

W E S L A K E 1330

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 18 11:44:52 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:44:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] June Sprints
Message-ID: <00ed01c8d16b$03cef5e0$6401a8c0@Larry>

Anybody going to the Sprints this weekend?  I'll get there Sunday, for sure;
maybe Saturday, as well.

Paul Root, where does your brother paddock?  Which car is he driving?

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun 18 11:53:22 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:53:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
References: <061301c8d162$b06d9170$9d947e4c@HP>
	<E1DCF4AEE2BA4D4B9F899822198490B6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080618121236.03ae0c38@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <5667B8124A0C47EBAA91A2EED946971E@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I ended up with a plastic can approved for use in Kalif.  Couldn't find 
anything else.
What the heck, It'll only be in use for two weeks.

Glen

> So tell me...... what are you using for a gas can.  I'm driving my 64 Mini 
> with a 6 gallon tank, and I usually carry a spare gallon in plastic. I'm 
> not sure it is any less dangerous than the original, but I was poking 
> around looking unsuccessfully for a metal can.
>
> I was also planning on meandering through Iowa.  All roads seem to be 
> flooded.
>
> Peter C.

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 11:53:40 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:53:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F37722C4BD961926757CE9FB8AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <010d01c8d0fb$efafe570$6600a8c0@dave>
	<BAY112-F37722C4BD961926757CE9FB8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806181053r304f4dbdv7ba1da02d0b0d2a9@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/18/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> So ... is there some loophole that allows them to write "Made in USA" on
> it?
>
> I have heard that in Canada, you can advertize as "Made in Canada" if there
> is a certain percent of the manufacturing done in the country.
>
It would appear there's nothing stopping anyone from claiming, or at least
implying a product was "Made in USA".

I've heard of a company that has been moving much of their production work
to "best in cost" facilities in Mexico.  At least some of that assembled
product is allegedly then shipped back to facilities in the US so it can be
shipped on to the customer from a "US supplier".


> BTW, don't take this as me saying that just becasue something is made in
> North America that that necessarily makes it a higher quality.


Uh hmm, Mexico is "in North America".

>From the sound of the news coming out of said company's quality meetings,
where the production has been moved to Mexico they're taking a beating on
internal quality scores.  Of course that doesn't matter too much _today_ as
it doesn't hit the all important bottom line _immediately_.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 18 12:21:14 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:14 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0806181053r304f4dbdv7ba1da02d0b0d2a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37554B710996920D44D5DDB8AB0@phx.gbl>

Yeah, I was conscious of Mexico being in NA.  They do make some fine tequila 
there!! :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: Jethro <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
To: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Warning-Warning-Warning
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:53:40 -0500

On 6/18/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

 > So ... is there some loophole that allows them to write "Made in USA" on
 > it?
 >
 > I have heard that in Canada, you can advertize as "Made in Canada" if 
there
 > is a certain percent of the manufacturing done in the country.
 >
It would appear there's nothing stopping anyone from claiming, or at least
implying a product was "Made in USA".

I've heard of a company that has been moving much of their production work
to "best in cost" facilities in Mexico.  At least some of that assembled
product is allegedly then shipped back to facilities in the US so it can be
shipped on to the customer from a "US supplier".


 > BTW, don't take this as me saying that just becasue something is made in
 > North America that that necessarily makes it a higher quality.


Uh hmm, Mexico is "in North America".

>From the sound of the news coming out of said company's quality meetings,
where the production has been moved to Mexico they're taking a beating on
internal quality scores.  Of course that doesn't matter too much _today_ as
it doesn't hit the all important bottom line _immediately_.

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Wed Jun 18 12:28:14 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:28:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for help in Kansas City area
Message-ID: <D04D296F-B648-421A-BAC9-A7E8B3A687A9@gerardsgarage.com>

Hi All,

I was contacted today by a guy in Kansas City who is looking for a  
referral for knowledgeable, reliable help in his area. He needs a rib  
case transmission rebuilt (has the notorious popping out of second  
problem). He is more interested in help from a knowledgeable  
enthusiast rather than a large shop. I would do it, but he seems  
reluctant to add shipping/shipping costs. He is willing to pay  
someone for the work.

NFI

Any leads/help appreciated.

Gerard

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun 18 13:10:49 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:10:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFCEBAHHAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <A4BEF421EEAC4EA2BF26203C4826A9F1@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Thanks Hal,
I appreciate the offer.  I actually noticed the hose on Sunday when I showed 
the engine to the guy that sold me the bugeye.  I went online and ordered 2 
of them from MM knowing they would be here today. (Sorry PP, MM is one day 
UPS ground away from me!)  I'll have a spare in the car for the next 
spridget in need.

Glen

> Glen,
> If you still need a hose (if for some reason yours dowsn't arrive) let me
> know (916)966-6581 0r (916) 397-1108.  I'm in Fair Oaks, which is hardly 
> out
> of your way to Elko, and I have a relatively good one on FROG AYE who is 
> not
> going to LotO (neither am I, sob....)
> Or any other last minute parts that I might have....
>
> Hal

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Jun 18 13:21:13 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:21:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
Message-ID: <20080618.122113.27418.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

Dave -

When I discovered the same problem, my examination of all the parts indicated
that the operating 'pull' rods were effectively too long as a result of
excessive play in the operating levers at the backing plates plus worn out pin
holes in the levers and the rod ends.

I bought some clevices and threaded rod from McMaster-Carr (mail order source
of everything mechanical) and assembled new rods that were adjustable in
length.  These allowed me to set up the hand brake and linkage at the
'mid-range' positions and adjust the operating rods for a perfect fit with
very little slop or play.

If anyone is interested, I can send a list of parts needed to do this.

Not original, but it works for me.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite (more or less)


-- "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,

The foot brake can lock all four wheels without excessive travel.
The hand brake won't lock the rear wheels!
The cable adjuster at the diff is at the end of it's range...

What can I do to make the handbrake work like it should ???
TIA....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 18 13:23:06 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:23:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
In-Reply-To: <5667B8124A0C47EBAA91A2EED946971E@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <C47EAEAA.17D07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

If you buy a HD gas can that's legal in California, and buy the same brand
kerosene can, you can swap the spouts, throw out the kerosene can, and have
a functioning gas can that you can use without pouring gasoline all over
yourself every time you use it. The kerosene cans are about 1/4th the price
because they don't have the California "safety" spout.

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 18 13:27:36 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:27:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <48587BCB.207@comcast.net>
References: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>, <48587BCB.207@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4858FF38.32445.DD6ADC@dmg.bossig.com>

Frank, Ed and all who replied...

You guys are (of course) correct...
I put the beast up on the jackstands and looked down the tunnel.
The hand brake cable has stretched so much that it has a *big* curve!!!
To me, it looks like a tight place to try and get my hands in the tunnel...

So... any hints or tips on how to get to the clevis inside the tunnel??
Cut the tunnel?? If so, where?
Remove the drive shaft?
Or just try and do it??

TIA...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 18 13:32:36 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:32:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <20080618.122113.27418.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080618.122113.27418.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <48590064.13489.E20091@dmg.bossig.com>

Clay,

Now that looks to be the neatest way to do it... 
So I would be grateful if you would send me a list of parts, I think I will do it 
your way.... especially as it also allows for future stretching of the cable ;-))

Also the address of McMaster-Carr   ...

Thanks

Dave G.

On 18 Jun 2008 at 19:21, cclabaw at juno.com wrote:

>> When I discovered the same problem, my examination of all the parts
>> indicated that the operating 'pull' rods were effectively too long as
>> a result of excessive play in the operating levers at the backing
>> plates plus worn out pin holes in the levers and the rod ends.
>> 
>> I bought some clevices and threaded rod from McMaster-Carr (mail order
>> source of everything mechanical) and assembled new rods that were
>> adjustable in length.  These allowed me to set up the hand brake and
>> linkage at the 'mid-range' positions and adjust the operating rods for
>> a perfect fit with very little slop or play.
>> 
>> If anyone is interested, I can send a list of parts needed to do this.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun 18 13:47:49 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:47:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb questions
Message-ID: <0BCB1056150748C2B28F1EB38290FD24@Home>

I am back in business after a long recovery from back and groin wrenchings caused by over-enthusiastic cutting and grinding on Rusty Rip-off.

All of my carbs of various vintages appear also to be individually mixed and matched with bits broken off or left off here and there.  

1.  Most of the float valves remain sticky after cleaning.  Is it likely that the needles and seats might be worn in such a way that they bind?  

2.  One of the front float lids appears to have a non-return ball in it, along with some fuzz that might once have been a fiber washer.  What is supposed to be in there?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Jun 18 14:29:57 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:29:57 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
Message-ID: <20080618.132957.9726.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Dave -

I'll dig it out and send to the list.  Re McM-C, go to
http://www.mcmaster.com.  Their ad says that they carry over 465,000
products.

Clay L.



-- "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
Clay,

Now that looks to be the neatest way to do it...
So I would be grateful if you would send me a list of parts, I think I will do
it
your way.... especially as it also allows for future stretching of the cable
;-))

Also the address of McMaster-Carr   ...

Thanks

Dave G.

On 18 Jun 2008 at 19:21, cclabaw at juno.com wrote:

>> When I discovered the same problem, my examination of all the parts
>> indicated that the operating 'pull' rods were effectively too long as
>> a result of excessive play in the operating levers at the backing
>> plates plus worn out pin holes in the levers and the rod ends.
>>
>> I bought some clevices and threaded rod from McMaster-Carr (mail order
>> source of everything mechanical) and assembled new rods that were
>> adjustable in length.  These allowed me to set up the hand brake and
>> linkage at the 'mid-range' positions and adjust the operating rods for
>> a perfect fit with very little slop or play.
>>
>> If anyone is interested, I can send a list of parts needed to do this.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'


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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 18 14:57:32 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:57:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
Message-ID: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Peter C. wrote:   "I was also planning on meandering through Iowa.  All
roads seem to be flooded."

 

Don't even think of using what roads are left in Iowa.   I have relatives
from one of end of the state to the others, and they have all been
devastated.   Those in Mason City (River City of  "The Music Man" fame").
Was without drinking or washing water for four days.  Others have been
pumping out their cellars.  Others isolated by washed out roads.   One
cousin sent photos from the Iowa DOT that show roads completely washed away
everywhere in the state.

 

Iowa?  Bad decision.

 

Buster

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 18 17:14:54 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:14:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Iowa?  Bad decision.>>

And the way it is sounding, the thru Quincy/Pittsfield, IL route IS quite "iffy" as of now folks!!!

Flatlander<G>(NOT cheesehead!!)

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed Jun 18 16:32:10 2008
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (stargazer1 at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:32:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carb questions
In-Reply-To: <0BCB1056150748C2B28F1EB38290FD24@Home>
Message-ID: <20080618183210.HJ4B0.309243.imail@fed1rmwml33>

---- Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote: 
> I am back in business after a long recovery from back and groin wrenchings caused by over-enthusiastic cutting and grinding on Rusty Rip-off.
> 
> All of my carbs of various vintages appear also to be individually mixed and matched with bits broken off or left off here and there.  
> 
>> 1.  Most of the float valves remain sticky after cleaning.  Is it likely that the needles and seats might be worn in such a way that they bind?  
> 
Probably, the OEM needles and seats fail by sticking open. You should also check for wear in the floats and their pivot pin. The plastic and brass floats are particularly subject to wear in the brass section that will cause binding.

> 2.  One of the front float lids appears to have a non-return ball in it, along with some fuzz that might once have been a fiber washer.  What is supposed to be in there?
> 
That sounds a lot like a Grose Jet. It's a replacement for the OEM float valve. Varnish build-up causes them to stick closed. If they do stick, you can cure it with a little carb cleaner. Some people like them, others hate them. Personally, I'd rather have the valve stick closed.  

The current OEM replacement valves seem to work very well and alleviate at least some of the justification for the Grose Jets.. 

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 17:18:44 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:18:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Anyone out there with stainless sleeves in thier master or brake cylinders 
to comment?
Yes, I have read the FAQ at http://www.brakecylinder.com

However, I still want stainless....

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 18 18:57:47 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:57:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
	<013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>

Dean, TRUST me in that our very own Gerard C. has spent a LOT of time on this subject and DOES have M/Cs RIGHT !!!

ONLY way I would fly (after 5 decades) in this arena!!

Ed

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 18:13:08 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:13:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop><013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Yes,  I TRUST you Ed...and I already know of Gerards efforts...

Now, is there anyone out there with stainless sleeves in thier brakes?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


> Dean, TRUST me in that our very own Gerard C. has spent a LOT of time on 
> this subject and DOES have M/Cs RIGHT !!!
>
> ONLY way I would fly (after 5 decades) in this arena!!
>
> Ed
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 18 19:31:07 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:31:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop><013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2><002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>

<<Now, is there anyone out there with stainless sleeves in thier brakes?>>

You might try White Post, Dean.  'Course then the M/C will be worth more than the car and most likely LEAK.

You might also try Apple (which will guarantee the ting LEAKING).

I do NOT recommend either, but it ain't my money<G>!!
"A fool and his money are soon parted."

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 18 18:52:41 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:52:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:

Check Sierra Speciality --  http://www.brakecylinder.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dean Hedin
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Dean Hedlin wrote:   "Now, is there anyone out there with stainless sleeves
in thier brakes?"

Check out Sierra Specialty Automotive -- http://www.brakecylinder.com .  You
may know of his work by way of Gerard, but his pages are well worth a look.
And for custom rebuilding of early Sprite and Midget master cylinders, see
http://www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm .

He did mine a couple of years ago, just before the BusterCluster, and I have
not lost a drop of fluid since.

If you are old enough to remember the Gus Wilson stories that appeared in
Popular Science magazine from 1925 to 1969, they were republished on this
site, but have now moved to http://www.gus-stories.org/ .  Even if you don't
remember them, anyone of any age who likes cars would get a kick out of
them! 

Buster

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 18:52:54 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:52:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
	<013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806181752t237d6c39n188ed7c826174394@mail.gmail.com>

I had White Post rebuild my clutch master. I bought a new clutch slave from
Ed. I have a new flex line, and the line from the master to the frame rail
is still shiny and new, with no signs of leakage anywhere. I STILL cannot
get enough pressure to shift gears.
It looks like our Sprite is staying home from LotO as well....

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<Now, is there anyone out there with stainless sleeves in thier brakes?>>
>
> You might try White Post, Dean.  'Course then the M/C will be worth more
> than the car and most likely LEAK.
>
> You might also try Apple (which will guarantee the ting LEAKING).
>
> I do NOT recommend either, but it ain't my money<G>!!
> "A fool and his money are soon parted."
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 19:00:13 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806181800j493eda2ck72442e95c7b3458d@mail.gmail.com>

They are on a FIVE week turnaround right now....

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:52 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Dean Hedin wrote:
>
> Check Sierra Speciality --  http://www.brakecylinder.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+b-evans <spridgets-bounces%2Bb-evans>=
> earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Dean Hedin
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:13 PM
> Dean Hedlin wrote:   "Now, is there anyone out there with stainless sleeves
> in thier brakes?"
>
> Check out Sierra Specialty Automotive -- http://www.brakecylinder.com .
>  You
> may know of his work by way of Gerard, but his pages are well worth a look.
> And for custom rebuilding of early Sprite and Midget master cylinders, see
> http://www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm .
>
> He did mine a couple of years ago, just before the BusterCluster, and I
> have
> not lost a drop of fluid since.
>
> If you are old enough to remember the Gus Wilson stories that appeared in
> Popular Science magazine from 1925 to 1969, they were republished on this
> site, but have now moved to http://www.gus-stories.org/ .  Even if you
> don't
> remember them, anyone of any age who likes cars would get a kick out of
> them!
>
> Buster
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From flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 18 19:04:30 2008
From: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com (John Gosselin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:04:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
Message-ID: <31818.55633.qm@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

What is the best type of adhesive to use in the installation of a carpet kit
in my 74 midget?  Thanks in advance!!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:07:57 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:07:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <4858FF38.32445.DD6ADC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<48587BCB.207@comcast.net> <4858FF38.32445.DD6ADC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4859B16D.8040704@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> So... any hints or tips on how to get to the clevis inside the tunnel??
> Cut the tunnel?? 
Do not cut the tunnel.
If you pull the hand brake lever out and remove the 3 bolts holding the 
bracket to the tunnel, you can get to it.
But you have to remove the seat to get to the bolts.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:18:25 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:18:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
Message-ID: <061920080118.21502.4859B3E1000A1F32000053FE22120592149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

I used elmers spray adhesive in my 74 and it worked great.  
ryan
-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: John Gosselin <flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com> 

> What is the best type of adhesive to use in the installation of a carpet kit 
> in my 74 midget? Thanks in advance!! 
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:21:36 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:21:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Yes, my original post   ----> "I have read the FAQ at 
http://www.brakecylinder.com"

So at this point I'm guess'n that nobody on the list has a stainless sleeve 
in thier spridget hydraulics that they can comment about?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "'Dean Hedin'" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


> Check Sierra Speciality --  http://www.brakecylinder.com/

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:31:17 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:31:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop><013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2><002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop><001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <006201c8d1ac$2c1e9140$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Found this place.  They use 304 SS.  
http://www.resleeve.com/sleeving.htm

Looks like they have pretty decent equipment.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 18 19:34:58 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:34:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806181800j493eda2ck72442e95c7b3458d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1K993B-0001gU-VZ@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:  "They (Sierra) are on a FIVE week turnaround right
now...."

Holy cow!   I guess quality brings more work and creates a waiting line.  I
got mine back in TWO weeks!!!!

 

Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:24:28 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:24:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop><013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2><002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop><001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2><00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
	<e98d88090806181752t237d6c39n188ed7c826174394@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005301c8d1ab$38778970$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Sounds like you have a geometry problem.  Clevis pin too short maybe?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


>I had White Post rebuild my clutch master. I bought a new clutch slave from
> Ed. I have a new flex line, and the line from the master to the frame rail
> is still shiny and new, with no signs of leakage anywhere. I STILL cannot
> get enough pressure to shift gears.
> It looks like our Sprite is staying home from LotO as well....

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jun 18 19:44:57 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:44:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net><00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop><013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2><002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <452066582.20080618184457@pacifier.com>

Hello Ed's,

     i know of apple's horrible reputation, BUT...

     long before i heard of this listserv, let alone knew "better" i
     sent my MC off to Apple. That was about 10 years ago. Before i
     sent it i had to fill the MC to drive to work, 6 miles, and fill
     it up again to drive home.   and now  it
     STILL doesn't leak!......

     they must get it right once in while!

     of course i would never do it again, knowing what i now  know
     about them.

     a not dissatisfied customer...




-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "I have to keep this fire alight," Tom bellowed.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 19:46:04 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:46:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <005301c8d1ab$38778970$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
	<013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
	<e98d88090806181752t237d6c39n188ed7c826174394@mail.gmail.com>
	<005301c8d1ab$38778970$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806181846iefbe28fk6d9163b1783efa06@mail.gmail.com>

I wish, I already put a nut in the slave cup, to lengthen the clevis. No joy
What is the real pisser, is that this master DID work, for about two days,
before it shit out all the fluid. I get it reworked, and it blows out the
slave. I buy a slave, and it STILL won't F'n work. Damn near $400, for
shit.....

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Sounds like you have a geometry problem.  Clevis pin too short maybe?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
> Brass
>
>
> >I had White Post rebuild my clutch master. I bought a new clutch slave
> from
> > Ed. I have a new flex line, and the line from the master to the frame
> rail
> > is still shiny and new, with no signs of leakage anywhere. I STILL cannot
> > get enough pressure to shift gears.
> > It looks like our Sprite is staying home from LotO as well....
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:47:25 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:47:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
In-Reply-To: <31818.55633.qm@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <31818.55633.qm@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4859BAAD.2070405@comcast.net>

John Gosselin wrote:
> What is the best type of adhesive to use in the installation of a carpet kit
> in my 74 midget?  Thanks in advance!!
>
>   
3M  #74. It holds well yet it makes it easy to remove the tunnel carpet 
when you need to get to the trans filler hole.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 19:49:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:49:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4859BB28.1030608@comcast.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:
> So at this point I'm guess'n that nobody on the list has a stainless sleeve 
> in thier spridget hydraulics that they can comment about?
>
>   
Dean

I had a local shop sleeve one of mine, he was supposed to sleeve it from 
7/8 to 3/4 but when I got it back, it was 7/8.
It was a trial thing and since it's still 7/8, I have not tried it.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 20:22:39 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:22:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
Message-ID: <e98d88090806181922x71676bd5lf7e8c6011f9f4f5a@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, now that the first wave of MAJOR depression has passed about my clutch
system, I need some help.
While washing out the brake fluid from what hair I have left, it occurred to
me, when the slave first failed, the entire system "gravity bled", leaving a
puddle similar to what I was lying in earlier.
Would this "gravity bleeding", which emptied the master, be my problem? Do I
need to bench bleed the master again? I am not knowledgeable enough to know
if there are any spots in the master that can hold air.
Also, before I go spend another $400 on parts, is there any definitive way
to determine which part of the system failed? I'd much rather troubleshoot,
then have to buy both bits again.

Brad

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 18 20:23:27 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:23:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <452066582.20080618184457@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <E1K99o7-0006BJ-1A@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Bill L. wrote:  "     i know of apple's horrible reputation, BUT..."

While at the BusterCluster, Spencer Baker was telling some of us his
frustrations with Apple.  He seems to have sent his front shocks to them,
and when they came back, they leaked like a sieve.  So, off they went to
Apple.  Shortly, they sent him some replacements.   He put the replacements
on, and THEY leaked like Noah's flood.

So, Spencer called Apple back to complain, and they told him, "Sorry, you
already received your guaranteed replacement."   Needless to say, he was not
only angry, but frustrated.

We introduced him to Peter C. on the spot.

Buster

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 18 20:25:51 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:25:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hand brake help...
In-Reply-To: <4859B16D.8040704@comcast.net>
References: <48581782.29755.26DBB93@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4858FF38.32445.DD6ADC@dmg.bossig.com>, <4859B16D.8040704@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4859613F.7721.25C5624@dmg.bossig.com>

Ah! So!!   Thanks, Frank..
The job was beginning to look like 'Shipwrights Disease'  <Grin>

On 18 Jun 2008 at 21:07, Frank Clarici wrote:

>> Dave G. wrote:
>> > So... any hints or tips on how to get to the clevis inside the
>> > tunnel?? Cut the tunnel?? 
>> Do not cut the tunnel.
>> If you pull the hand brake lever out and remove the 3 bolts holding
>> the bracket to the tunnel, you can get to it. But you have to remove
>> the seat to get to the bolts.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>> 
>> 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 20:36:15 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:36:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<4859BB28.1030608@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00b501c8d1b5$3f99f800$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

That's a bummer.   I guess you'll have to save it for that future concours 
Bugeye.

If I'm going to spend the money or effort in resleeving then I want to do it 
in
stainless, and I don't ever want to have to go there again..

I am sure that the brass the outfits are using is durable but I can still 
imagine
corrosion and wear in brass after a couple years, especially in the master 
cylinder.

What I can't figure is why does'nt everybody use stainless? The material 
cost is not
the issue here.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Dean
>
> I had a local shop sleeve one of mine, he was supposed to sleeve it from 
> 7/8 to 3/4 but when I got it back, it was 7/8.
> It was a trial thing and since it's still 7/8, I have not tried it.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 18 20:49:16 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:49:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806181922x71676bd5lf7e8c6011f9f4f5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090806181922x71676bd5lf7e8c6011f9f4f5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4859C92C.2020408@comcast.net>

Brad

Due to the incline of the clutch master, you really do not have much 
fluid to bleed out before the master sucks air even if there is juice in 
it, the rear end is tilted up and sucks air when it's about 1/2 full.
Get yourself a lovely assistant to fill the master with each squirt of 
the bleeder.
Or for best results, use air to power bleed it.
Get an old cap, pop off the center cover, drill a 1/4" hole in the 
depressed spot where the vent hole is, use a rubber tipped blow gun and  
force the juice thru the system with about 10-15 psi, no more than 20.
When the are ready to open the bleeder, have the helper start the air 
flow the instant you open it up.
You will see the juice come out full stream, yell stop to the helper as 
you close the bleeder.
Do watch the juice level too.
I gave up the old way, I just power bleed and it usually works the first 
time.
You can even use the original cap if you do not have a spare, just 
replace the snap in center cap after you drill out the inner part.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Jun 18 20:56:43 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:56:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
Message-ID: <3382442.622751213844203827.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web19-z02>

you guys are scaring me...I sent mine to white post a few weeks ago and just started installing it along with everything else.  Going through previous posts, I thought they were decent.

Chris
66 mkIII


---- Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote: 
> I wish, I already put a nut in the slave cup, to lengthen the clevis. No joy
> What is the real pisser, is that this master DID work, for about two days,
> before it shit out all the fluid. I get it reworked, and it blows out the
> slave. I buy a slave, and it STILL won't F'n work. Damn near $400, for
> shit.....

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun 18 21:11:51 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:11:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
Message-ID: <200806190311.m5J3Bp67010959@celerio.ucdavis.edu>

"They" is one retired fellow working out of his house in Quincy.  His 
garage is a combination machine/shop warehouse office.  I stopped by one 
year during the family vacation.  Nice guy, thanked him for the beautiful 
work he did on my bugeye MC parked in his driveway.  He was happy to see 
his work on the road.  No problems since he did it.  I wouldn't go to 
anyone else.

Glen Byrns

> Brad Fornal wrote:  "They (Sierra) are on a FIVE week turnaround right
> now...."
> 
> Holy cow!   I guess quality brings more work and creates a waiting 
line. 
> I
> got mine back in TWO weeks!!!!

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 18 21:29:54 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:29:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <200806190311.m5J3Bp67010959@celerio.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <E1K9AqP-0005Nz-Ex@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:   "'They' is one retired fellow working out of his house
in Quincy.... Nice guy....He was happy to see his work on the road."

I can certainly second that.   I talked with him a great deal, not just
about the MC and slave cylinder, but the trade and changes in it as well.
A real craftsman of the old school, proud of his work and stands behind it
because is HIS work!

Buster

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 22:48:04 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:48:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <4859C92C.2020408@comcast.net>
References: <e98d88090806181922x71676bd5lf7e8c6011f9f4f5a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4859C92C.2020408@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806182148m3305a97blb0ca91fbc50b90cc@mail.gmail.com>

Braster,

What Frank said!  Worked for me and I did mine without a helper. Get Martha
to teach you how...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/18/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Brad
>
> Due to the incline of the clutch master, you really do not have much
> fluid to bleed out before the master sucks air even if there is juice in
> it, the rear end is tilted up and sucks air when it's about 1/2 full.
> Get yourself a lovely assistant to fill the master with each squirt of
> the bleeder.
> Or for best results, use air to power bleed it.
> Get an old cap, pop off the center cover, drill a 1/4" hole in the
> depressed spot where the vent hole is, use a rubber tipped blow gun and
> force the juice thru the system with about 10-15 psi, no more than 20.
> When the are ready to open the bleeder, have the helper start the air
> flow the instant you open it up.
> You will see the juice come out full stream, yell stop to the helper as
> you close the bleeder.
> Do watch the juice level too.
> I gave up the old way, I just power bleed and it usually works the first
> time.
> You can even use the original cap if you do not have a spare, just
> replace the snap in center cap after you drill out the inner part.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 18 22:50:11 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:50:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
In-Reply-To: <31818.55633.qm@web44803.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <864478.84084.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"What is the best type of adhesive to use in the installation of a carpet kit
in my 74 midget?"
 
Snaps   
 
Unless of course you have a top that never leaks a drop or you live somewhere
like Southern California where rain is not an issue.
 
 - David



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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 19 04:36:45 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:36:45 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
Message-ID: <bf3.33745856.358b90bd@aol.com>

Hi Brad,
 
Off work today sick with a stinking cold - had to go to bed at 8pm  yesterday 
as I was too tired to stand up.
 
I've just been through a series of clutch issues and replaced everything  
before pulling the engine.  Things to try are using an extended clutch push  rod 
(it can help you get enough clutch travel even with poor hydraulics).   The 
slave on the early minis is much the same as the spridgets (but you might  need 
to check this).  Stay away from silicone brake fluid.  Fit a  rigid pipe from 
the slave bleed long enough to appear in the engine bay and then  put a 
fitting on it so you bleed from this point.
 
Hope you can sort this before LOTO.
 
Regards
 
 
Daniel 
 
In a message dated 19/06/2008 02:51:26 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

I wish,  I already put a nut in the slave cup, to lengthen the clevis. No joy
What  is the real pisser, is that this master DID work, for about two  days,
before it shit out all the fluid. I get it reworked, and it blows out  the
slave. I buy a slave, and it STILL won't F'n work. Damn near $400,  for
shit.....

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 19 04:40:00 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:40:00 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
Message-ID: <d46.2840385d.358b9180@aol.com>

For people without an air supply I used a valve from a bicycle inner tube  
and a bicycle pump to pressurise it.
 
In a message dated 19/06/2008 03:51:54 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

Get an  old cap, pop off the center cover, drill a 1/4" hole in the 
depressed spot  where the vent hole is, use a rubber tipped blow gun and  
force the  juice thru the system with about 10-15 psi, 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Jun 19 04:50:15 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:50:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <bf3.33745856.358b90bd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007101c8d1fa$425a6a30$0b01a8c0@MAIN>

Fitting a longer pushrod may help, but do be careful not to "overthrow" the
clutch.  That is, to overcompress the clutch cover fingers which can then
distort and destroy the clutch.
The distance that the clutch mechanism moves between fully released and full
compressed is not actually controlled by the length of the slave pushrod,
but by the amount of fluid displaced when you press the pedal.  The pushrod
simply relays the movement. The necessary movement is rather less than 1/3
of the available travel at the slave cylinder, so that as long as the slave
piston isn't coming up against the circlip at the end before the clutch is
released, then the pushrod length will be immaterial.

But a combination of a thick new clutch driven plate and worn pivot points
on the clutch release lever arm can result in too much lost movement of the
release bearing, in which case the longer pushrod may help.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Weslake1330 at aol.com
Sent: 19 June 2008 11:37
To: tequila.brad at gmail.com; dlh2001 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
Brass


Hi Brad,

Off work today sick with a stinking cold - had to go to bed at 8pm
yesterday
as I was too tired to stand up.

I've just been through a series of clutch issues and replaced everything
before pulling the engine.  Things to try are using an extended clutch push
rod
(it can help you get enough clutch travel even with poor hydraulics).   The
slave on the early minis is much the same as the spridgets (but you might
need
to check this).  Stay away from silicone brake fluid.  Fit a  rigid pipe
from
the slave bleed long enough to appear in the engine bay and then  put a
fitting on it so you bleed from this point.

Hope you can sort this before LOTO.

Regards


Daniel

In a message dated 19/06/2008 02:51:26 GMT Daylight Time,
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

I wish,  I already put a nut in the slave cup, to lengthen the clevis. No
joy
What  is the real pisser, is that this master DID work, for about two  days,
before it shit out all the fluid. I get it reworked, and it blows out  the
slave. I buy a slave, and it STILL won't F'n work. Damn near $400,  for
shit.....
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 19 07:02:04 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:02:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <200806190311.m5J3Bp67010959@celerio.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F404A890BF150A9298ED7A1B8AA0@phx.gbl>

I had my Sprite's done at Sierra in about 2000?  It has not leaked a drop 
and there have been absolutely no malfunctions.  It hasn't seen a drop and 
has not functioned tho' as I haven't installed it.  :(  It is part of the 
"slightly behind schedule"  Sprite restoration.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/MC.htm

Service was impeccable.

----Original Message Follows----

"They" is one retired fellow working out of his house in Quincy.  His
garage is a combination machine/shop warehouse office.  I stopped by one
year during the family vacation.  Nice guy, thanked him for the beautiful
work he did on my bugeye MC parked in his driveway.  He was happy to see
his work on the road.  No problems since he did it.  I wouldn't go to
anyone else.

Glen Byrns

 > Brad Fornal wrote:  "They (Sierra) are on a FIVE week turnaround right
 > now...."
 >
 > Holy cow!   I guess quality brings more work and creates a waiting
line.
 > I
 > got mine back in TWO weeks!!!!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 19 07:16:30 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:16:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00b501c8d1b5$3f99f800$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F355EDE532FA17919D41745B8AA0@phx.gbl>

That's a fair question ( to which I don't have an answer ).  Maybe when you 
are calling the people who offer resleeving services, you could ask them and 
let us know?  Maybe it's just because that's the way it's always been done 
or maybe there is some quality of the metal that makes it more or less 
attractive?


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>

I am sure that the brass the outfits are using is durable but I can still
imagine corrosion and wear in brass after a couple years, especially in the 
master
cylinder.

What I can't figure is why does'nt everybody use stainless? The material
cost is not the issue here.

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 07:24:30 2008
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:24:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <3382442.622751213844203827.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web19-z02>
Message-ID: <002101c8d20f$e77fbd70$6501a8c0@Inspiron>

Chris;

I had my M/C, rear wheel cylinders, and clutch slave cylinder rebuilt 11 
years ago by White Post, I have had no problems with any of the parts, I'm 
happy with their work. I also have used silicone brake fluid in my system, 
again no problems.

Greg Higgins
63 sprite
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


> you guys are scaring me...I sent mine to white post a few weeks ago and 
> just started installing it along with everything else.  Going through 
> previous posts, I thought they were decent.
>
> Chris
> 66 mkIII
>
>
> ---- Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wish, I already put a nut in the slave cup, to lengthen the clevis. No 
>> joy
>> What is the real pisser, is that this master DID work, for about two 
>> days,
>> before it shit out all the fluid. I get it reworked, and it blows out the
>> slave. I buy a slave, and it STILL won't F'n work. Damn near $400, for
>> shit.....
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 19 07:36:21 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:36:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <452066582.20080618184457@pacifier.com>
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
	<013101c8d199$a776c780$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<002401c8d1a7$7e10e840$6801a8c0@shop>
	<001001c8d1a1$418bcd00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<00aa01c8d1ac$29450b70$6801a8c0@shop>
	<452066582.20080618184457@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8D16AD12740743F49592625A85CDC380@Home>

Apple is 20 minutes from my house.  Their reputation locally is that they 
were good for a while, then bad for a while, and now are good again.  I 
don't know the timing, and I don't know if the same people are involved.  I 
bought a set of rear shocks from them a month ago, but have yet to install 
them and have no other experience.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


> Hello Ed's,
>
>     i know of apple's horrible reputation, BUT...
>
>     long before i heard of this listserv, let alone knew "better" i
>     sent my MC off to Apple. That was about 10 years ago. Before i
>     sent it i had to fill the MC to drive to work, 6 miles, and fill
>     it up again to drive home.   and now  it
>     STILL doesn't leak!......
>
>     they must get it right once in while!
>
>     of course i would never do it again, knowing what i now  know
>     about them.
>
>     a not dissatisfied customer...
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>      * "I have to keep this fire alight," Tom bellowed.
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 19 07:52:36 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:52:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <005401c8d210$3674e7c0$d103f204@spider>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34FCB29705C6E441741315B8AA0@phx.gbl>

No, I hadn't as it wasn't really my question ... but I tried it and look 
what came up on sierra's site?

http://www.brakecylinder.com/sleeve2.htm#stainless


----Original Message Follows----
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: "'Robert Duquette'" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:27:23 -0700

Have you Googled the subject? There are other cars out there that have had
experience with this issue. ...bill in oregon
===========================================================================

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>

I am sure that the brass the outfits are using is durable but I can still
imagine corrosion and wear in brass after a couple years, especially in the
master
cylinder.

What I can't figure is why doesn't everybody use stainless? The material
cost is not the issue here.
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 19 08:19:21 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:19:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00b501c8d1b5$3f99f800$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<4859BB28.1030608@comcast.net>
	<00b501c8d1b5$3f99f800$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080619090944.03876538@nosimport.com>

Dean,
         I'm not a metallurgist. I have sleeved a "few" things with 
both stainless and brass. From a manufacturing standpoint, brass is 
easier for several reasons.
         After boring the cylinder for the sleeve, the cylinder gets 
heated for the sleeve to press in, and the differential is more 
easily attained for brass than ss.
         After the sleeve is installed, the sleeves get honed. 
Honing/resizing the brass is easier than ss on the equipment and the 
finish can be done in just a few passes with a hone rather than 
cutting tools as ss requires.
         Also, it is my experience that ss "work hardens" after a 
period and develops undesirable hard spots.
         And.... stainless is still susceptible to oxidation, it just 
does it differently.

         Peter C
======
At 09:36 PM 6/18/2008, Dean Hedin wrote:
>That's a bummer.   I guess you'll have to save it for that future concours
>Bugeye.
>
>If I'm going to spend the money or effort in resleeving then I want to do it
>in
>stainless, and I don't ever want to have to go there again..
>
>I am sure that the brass the outfits are using is durable but I can still
>imagine
>corrosion and wear in brass after a couple years, especially in the master
>cylinder.
>
>What I can't figure is why does'nt everybody use stainless? The material
>cost is not
>the issue here.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 19 09:16:50 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:16:50 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Top 50 best-selling cars ever
Message-ID: <BAY112-F368A3DEB74FABACFCBB46CB8AA0@phx.gbl>

No spridgets here ...

I like the picture of the Ford Cortina pictured here.

If I knew this, I had forgotten: "could be ordered in any hue so long as it 
was black - which was the only colour paint that could dry fast enough to 
keep up with the rate of production"


http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/guides_and_advice/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5791910

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 09:24:49 2008
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:24:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] slave cylinder bleeding, part 3 or 4
Message-ID: <002d01c8d220$9e522870$6501a8c0@Inspiron>

Here is another way for bleeding your slave cylinder, they use this method in
the aircraft industry when there are long runs of pipe to push fluid through.

- Buy a brand new oil can, the kind with a trigger, that pumps.

- Loosen the bleeder screw on the slave cylinder, attach a piece of clear
tubing, either 3/16'' or 1/4'' to the screw.

- attach the other end of the tubing to the spout of the oil can, which will
be full of what ever brake fluid you are using.

- start pumping, this will push any air out of the slave cylinder, up through
the pipe, any air bubbles will dissipate into the reservoir of the M/C, you
don't want to have your M/C filled to the top, you will have some extra fluid
there.

Part 2, the other easy method you can use is this, most caps from brake fluid
bottles or thinner cans, will screw onto your M/C. Drill a 1/4" hole in the
centre of the cap, pull a regular rubber valve stem through the hole. Attach
the cap to the M/C, use a bicycle pump to add some pressure to the M/C and
start bleeding the slave, this is similar to the method Frank C. mentioned.

Part 3, this is my favorite way of bleeding brakes etc, the old fashion
gravity method, fill up the M/C leave the cap off, open up bleeder valve(s),
if you wait, it will flow.
Once you have a good flow of fluid, close the bleeder screw, have your better
half pump the pedal, and start bleeding. Works every time.

I have used this method the most in the 35 years of owning sprites.

The other thing that can happen, and its happened to me, the pedal is still
spongy after all the bleeding, leave everything for an hour or so, even over
night. There is no reason for this, the pedal is firm, no sponge, everything
has settled down from all the pumping.

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 19 10:57:07 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:57:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080619090944.03876538@nosimport.com>
References: <E1K98OG-0000LN-VP@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<004401c8d1aa$d1cc45d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<4859BB28.1030608@comcast.net>
	<00b501c8d1b5$3f99f800$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080619090944.03876538@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <3C67BF702F9A4FADA92066EE491CC6A0@Home>

> And.... stainless is still susceptible to oxidation, it just does it 
> differently.

I understand that stainless steel is "stainless" from a coating of chromium 
oxide on the surface.  If there is no oxygen, the initial coating 
corrodes/wears away and is not replaced.  There is no oxygen inside the 
braking system, so it will not remain "stainless" long.

Michael Rowe

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 19 11:58:27 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:58:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <3C67BF702F9A4FADA92066EE491CC6A0@Home>
Message-ID: <E1K9OOz-0004cw-Iw@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Remember, stainless steel is not necessarily "permanent", and *can* rust.
We once had a technician in the science animal house who used Brillo to
"clean" all of the stainless steel animal cages.   The result:   RUST.   And
a $40,000 bill for the taxpayers to buy a complete set of new stainless
steel animal cages (the "old" ones were less than a year old).

So, remember, be careful when you clean anything of stainless steel, and
especially don't use even the finest of steel wool (or Brillo pads) to clean
mineral deposits, dried grease, etc.

Buster

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jun 19 13:04:13 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:04:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bring a Trailer.
Message-ID: <FA541535-8BBE-4A50-9C50-C6AA3DB189C5@gerardsgarage.com>

This one really deserves the title!

~g

http://bringatrailer.com/2008/06/16/good-for-parts-at-least-ohio- 
british-car-stash/#more-887

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jun 19 13:23:43 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:23:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16290.1213837195.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16290.1213837195.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <612E876F-300A-4C71-AB77-085287950369@gerardsgarage.com>

FYI, in case you missed it, I have two unspoken for tandem 3/4" MC's  
for Bugeye that I will bring to LotO. If someone needs one  
immediately, I can see about shipping one directly, but today is  
probably the deadline to make it beforehand. I had Joe build 3 and  
one was snapped up immediately. I think I will have one bare and one  
black powder coated.

Gerard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 5:59 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
> They are on a FIVE week turnaround right now....
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:52 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>  
> wrote:
>
>> Dean Hedin wrote:
>>
>> Check Sierra Speciality --  http://www.brakecylinder.com/

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jun 19 13:46:15 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <9B5440A8-883A-4FE5-A1BC-0BF262803290@gerardsgarage.com>

OK, my .02 cents...

There are more corrosion issues with Stainless than brass. There are  
good articles on the Internet that document the issues. I don't have  
the links handy at the moment, but they are out there. I think one  
thing that many people do not realize is that once the pores in  
stainless become contaminated with a different metal it will rust.

Every British car I have has Joe's brass MC's in them and never had a  
problem. Since my cars are not driven that much, corrosion is more of  
a concern, but after 10 years, none have had any issues. Also, Joe  
backs his units with 10 years on workmanship. On one occasion, there  
was a problem with a couple of MKIV clutch MC's I ordered. It was not  
a sleeve issue, but none-the-less, Joe made me sent them back and  
corrected the problem, all (including shipping) at his expense. I  
didn't ask him to do it, he just did it. This was when I was still a  
fairly "new" customer. More recently, two of the 3/4" conversions  
that I had Cad plated came back stained. Once again, Joe took them  
back and had the platers re re-do them. No one today, that I am aware  
of, stands behind his work like Joe... and always with pleasure.  
Sorry, they just don't "make them like that anymore".

That's just another reason why he gone from a one week turn around to  
five. His work AND his way of doing business is unsurpassed.

If you think I am exaggerating or  have some ulterior motive, just  
ask anyone else who has has used his services.

Gerard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:47 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> That's a bummer.   I guess you'll have to save it for that future  
> concours
> Bugeye.
>
> If I'm going to spend the money or effort in resleeving then I want  
> to do it
> in
> stainless, and I don't ever want to have to go there again..
>
> I am sure that the brass the outfits are using is durable but I can  
> still
> imagine
> corrosion and wear in brass after a couple years, especially in the  
> master
> cylinder.
>
> What I can't figure is why does'nt everybody use stainless? The  
> material
> cost is not
> the issue here.

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jun 19 13:56:04 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:56:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>

The other issue is that you do not have a residual valve in the  
clutch bore like you have in the brake bore. Consequently, operating  
the pedal with the bleeder open only moves the fluid back and forth  
until you build some pressure. Other options are to close the bleeder  
while the pedal is held on the downstroke.

My own solution is to run a hard line from the clutch slave, with a  
bleeder at the end of the line, up to an area about the level of the  
battery tray where I can manipulate the bleeder while I'm standing at  
the MC.  I can bleed a clutch that way in about 3 minutes.

Gerard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:47 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Brad
>
> Due to the incline of the clutch master, you really do not have much
> fluid to bleed out before the master sucks air even if there is  
> juice in
> it, the rear end is tilted up and sucks air when it's about 1/2 full.
> Get yourself a lovely assistant to fill the master with each squirt of
> the bleeder.
> Or for best results, use air to power bleed it.
> Get an old cap, pop off the center cover, drill a 1/4" hole in the
> depressed spot where the vent hole is, use a rubber tipped blow gun  
> and
> force the juice thru the system with about 10-15 psi, no more than 20.
> When the are ready to open the bleeder, have the helper start the air
> flow the instant you open it up.
> You will see the juice come out full stream, yell stop to the  
> helper as
> you close the bleeder.
> Do watch the juice level too.
> I gave up the old way, I just power bleed and it usually works the  
> first
> time.
> You can even use the original cap if you do not have a spare, just
> replace the snap in center cap after you drill out the inner part.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From cmlove at knology.net  Thu Jun 19 14:06:10 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:06:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>

I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave?  Do you attache it
to the back of the slave or the output side?

I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me. 


Charles M. "Monty" Love 
Dynetics, Inc. 
256-461-2780 
256-337-5581 (Cell)
256-882-1543 (Home)
ET Test 

The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They
happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmlove=knology.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Gerard Chateauvieux
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 2:56 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please

The other issue is that you do not have a residual valve in the clutch bore
like you have in the brake bore. Consequently, operating the pedal with the
bleeder open only moves the fluid back and forth until you build some
pressure. Other options are to close the bleeder while the pedal is held on
the downstroke.

My own solution is to run a hard line from the clutch slave, with a bleeder
at the end of the line, up to an area about the level of the battery tray
where I can manipulate the bleeder while I'm standing at the MC.  I can
bleed a clutch that way in about 3 minutes.

Gerard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:47 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Brad
>
> Due to the incline of the clutch master, you really do not have much 
> fluid to bleed out before the master sucks air even if there is juice 
> in it, the rear end is tilted up and sucks air when it's about 1/2 
> full.
> Get yourself a lovely assistant to fill the master with each squirt of 
> the bleeder.
> Or for best results, use air to power bleed it.
> Get an old cap, pop off the center cover, drill a 1/4" hole in the 
> depressed spot where the vent hole is, use a rubber tipped blow gun 
> and force the juice thru the system with about 10-15 psi, no more than 
> 20.
> When the are ready to open the bleeder, have the helper start the air 
> flow the instant you open it up.
> You will see the juice come out full stream, yell stop to the helper 
> as you close the bleeder.
> Do watch the juice level too.
> I gave up the old way, I just power bleed and it usually works the 
> first time.
> You can even use the original cap if you do not have a spare, just 
> replace the snap in center cap after you drill out the inner part.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
You are subscribed as cmlove at knology.net

http://www.team.net/archive

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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Jun 19 14:44:14 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:44:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net><44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
	<006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>
Message-ID: <C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

A brake line with fitting is screwed in place of the bleeder and bent to go 
where you want.

Glen

> I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave?  Do you attache 
> it
> to the back of the slave or the output side?
>
> I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me.
>
>
> Charles M. "Monty" Love
> Dynetics, Inc.
> 256-461-2780
> 256-337-5581 (Cell)
> 256-882-1543 (Home)
> ET Test

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Jun 19 14:48:30 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:48:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] roadside attractions on the way to LoOz
Message-ID: <E420F3C3584346FDA202CD1C82F6C15F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I'd been joking with family and friends that I take the back routes so I can
see stuff like the world's biggest ball of twine.  Imagine my surprise when I
was searching Kansas for things to see on the way through and found this:

http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/Cawker/twine.html

My heart if full.

Glen Byrns

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 15:12:18 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:12:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Kopex redux  opinions please..
In-Reply-To: <005401c8d253$b36972d0$6501a8c0@shop>
References: <006e01c8d22a$5e8dcd70$6501a8c0@shop>
	<5CEB5879-6B35-4248-B18C-B9C043E9B542@comcast.net>
	<005401c8d253$b36972d0$6501a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <0D0B8E9A-4DBC-4858-A259-511EDA9D6ED8@comcast.net>

hmm.. maybe I didn't put that well..

The original stuff has a loose spiral of wire with a paper outer  
coating.  The spiral is loose enough that one could cut the tubing  
and there would be *one* spot where the spiral wire is cut and the  
rest would be the paper.  Closer to clothes drier vent line in it's  
spacing.  if you push your finger into the side you would make a tear  
in the paper which is now damaged forever.

The stuff that I have from Moss is actually a spiral wound *sheet of  
thin metal* that has a paper coating.  If you look at the end of the  
stuff from Moss you will see a continuous band of aluminum.  If you  
push your finger into the side of the pipe it will make a dent which  
you can push out from inside.

It is certainly possible that I am wrong about this.

What say ye all?

Lester




On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> <<there is not a solid metal core but a loose wire spiral..>>
>
> Which IS how it is supposed to be, Lester!!  There is/has NEVER  
> been a "solid metal core".  PERIOD.
>
> Ask Biff, Jay, Buster, maybe Peter, and Frank if you do not believe  
> me.
>
> For the life of me I can't even imagine WHAT you are thinking  
> of!?!?!?!?!
>
> I also am one that bought his Frogeye NEW off the show room floor  
> (and YES I wish to God I had NEVER let it go!!!).

From htpc2 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 16:11:14 2008
From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick Sorak)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:11:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front disk brake wire wheel question
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <03aa01c8d259$64ee99e0$6500a8c0@htpc>

Hello list,

Sorry I won't see ya at LOTO, to all those going have a blast for me.

Pertaining to a '65 Midget w/ wire wheels

Question, got out the Haynes manual but it was no help....
I noticed when I had the front end jacked up the other day that I the front 
wheel could rotate a small distance w/o the brake disk moving....

What is the source of the play between the disk and the wire wheel 
splines....What do I need to do to eliminate this play?
Thanks
Rick 

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Jun 19 16:29:02 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:29:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO Local Knowledge
Message-ID: <4DFED9B0768E4367908A0B6E41C42C28@Dell9200>

Does anybody on the list actually live in the LoTO area?  

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 19 18:35:05 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:35:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] roadside attractions on the way to LoOz
Message-ID: <E1K9Uam-0003Pf-2U@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:  "Imagine my surprise when I was searching Kansas for
things to see on the way through and found this:
http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/Cawker/twine.html  My heart if full."

 

A truly genuine piece of the American spirit that makes us unique in the
world;  a spirit generally mourned as lost with the advent of electronic
games, crack and an invasion of illegals.   How wonderful to see that this
spirit still lives, not in Los Angeles, Chicago or New York, but in one of
America's byways that would have remained unknown were it not for your
curiosity.   I wish I had time to send you some twine to add for me!

 

Buster

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 18:37:06 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:37:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
	<006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>
	<C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806191737n551a1d22m41e508ce25093c15@mail.gmail.com>

Back flush, via compressing the slave with a large pair of welding pliers.
Pressure bleeding, with the front of the car raised.
Still, no joy.......

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> A brake line with fitting is screwed in place of the bleeder and bent to go
> where you want.
>
> Glen
>
> > I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave?  Do you attache
> > it
> > to the back of the slave or the output side?
> >
> > I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me.
> >
> >
> > Charles M. "Monty" Love
> > Dynetics, Inc.
> > 256-461-2780
> > 256-337-5581 (Cell)
> > 256-882-1543 (Home)
> > ET Test
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From lbcs at embarqmail.com  Thu Jun 19 18:52:51 2008
From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs))
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:52:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <E1K9OOz-0004cw-Iw@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3C67BF702F9A4FADA92066EE491CC6A0@Home>
	<E1K9OOz-0004cw-Iw@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <44235D0994234D87B849B80049C3D3E8@bills>

Oh no.  That's not good.  The stainless did not "rust"  It was just the mild
steel the brillo pad impregnanted into the surface of the stainless steel.
We used to build a LOT of stainless steel dust collectors for the food and
pharma industry.  You had to be VERY careful not to pick up a wire brush or
sanding disk that was used on mild steel.  If you did, you would get "rusty"
stainless.  The rusty stainless was really just surface rust in the
scratches made by the wire brush or sandpaper.   Now all that has to be done
is to polish the areas, continuously cleaning the wheel to get the "mild
steel" off the stainless steel.  I made my guys get a new one when they were
cleaning up welds on stainless so this would not happen.  You by no means
"scrubbed" the stainless off.  It is stainless through and through - not a
coated metal, if it was coated you couldn't bend it, cut it, weld it, etc
without getting rust.  Yes, stainless is permanent, and no a good grade will
not rust unless something is introduced into it.  Never, ever clean SS with
something made of mild steel.

There are good grades of stainless and bad grades of stainless.  It all has
to do with the ratios of the metals in the stainless.  Bad grades would rust
and are magnetic.  But, each grade has it's purpose.  I believe the tax
payers got soaked for $40K by a company that told you they were ruined to
sell some more.
  
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+lbcs=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+lbcs=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
B- Evans
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:58 PM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
Brass

Remember, stainless steel is not necessarily "permanent", and *can* rust.
We once had a technician in the science animal house who used Brillo to
"clean" all of the stainless steel animal cages.   The result:   RUST.   And
a $40,000 bill for the taxpayers to buy a complete set of new stainless
steel animal cages (the "old" ones were less than a year old).

So, remember, be careful when you clean anything of stainless steel, and
especially don't use even the finest of steel wool (or Brillo pads) to clean
mineral deposits, dried grease, etc.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 19:02:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lake of the Ozarks Weather Outlook
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806191802mbb728ebk1a13b75d29da3a46@mail.gmail.com>

Okay...  We are now within range to provide a little accuracy with a weather
forecast so here goes...

OUTLOOK:  The overall circulation pattern across the US for the next couple
of weeks (perhaps longer) should place the main storm track in the
westerlies across the northern tier of states in the US. This means that
disturbances in the flow should remain north of the Missouri area while mean
westerly flow aloft across the Rockies will produce a warm air low pressure
system across the high plains regions with some very hot temperatures from
Eastern Wyoming south into West Texas panhandle. Further east to the
Missouri river valley and the Ozarks, upper level flow should be very weak.
This will support the current Global Forecast System idea of a very weak
westward extension of the semi-permanent Bermuda high pressure system across
the southeast US into Missouri. As a result, temperatures should be
reasonably seasonable with little chance for rain.

My Personal Osage Beach...
FORECAST:
Wednesday...Partly cloudy in the afternoon with a high in the in the mid to
upper 80s. South to southeast winds around 10 mph.
Wednesday Night...A 20 percent chance for mainly evening showers or a
thunderstorm then clear. A low in the upper 60s.
Thursday thru Sunday...Mostly clear. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the
60s. South to southeast winds around 10 mph.

I promised Larry Macy an outlook for MG2008 at Valley Forge.  All the above
holds true except there should be an upper disturbance move east southeast
across the northeastern part of the country forcing a weak and diffuse
frontal zone across Pennsylvania on Friday. Therefore, I would expect at
least some chance for afternoon showers on Friday.  Otherwise, daily highs
in the upper 80s with lows in the 60s and mostly sunny skies except Friday
when there will be a bit more cloud, especially in the afternoon.

Cheers!!
Jim, the retired weather guy...

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 19:03:12 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:03:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Front disk brake wire wheel question
In-Reply-To: <03aa01c8d259$64ee99e0$6500a8c0@htpc>
References: <4853AD40.8526.DD5197@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4853AEF8.564.E40606@dmg.bossig.com>
	<8A33FA7C-4A0F-4BAB-9A50-B61993E0381A@comcast.net>
	<4853B608.19412.FF9F74@dmg.bossig.com>
	<03aa01c8d259$64ee99e0$6500a8c0@htpc>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806191803s2f4ec4a8x88bf2bb457e45be0@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like the splines are shot! Check it carefully before driving it...
You may end up with no brakes on the front if the splines don't hold.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Rick Sorak <htpc2 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Pertaining to a '65 Midget w/ wire wheels
>
> Question, got out the Haynes manual but it was no help.... I noticed when I
> had the front end jacked up the other day that I the front wheel could
> rotate a small distance w/o the brake disk moving....
>
> What is the source of the play between the disk and the wire wheel
> splines....What do I need to do to eliminate this play?

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 19:32:38 2008
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
Message-ID: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>

Hi all,
	The last couple of times that I have driven the Midget I keep having  
this same problem.  The car feels like it is missing as I accelerate.   
The car "sputters" around 3500 RPM's during acceleration.  It actually  
sounds like there is a gurgle while the car is trying to get past 3500  
RPM's.  Before and after 3500 RPM's it seems fine.  This only is  
happening as far as I can tell when I am accelerating and not when I  
am at a constant speed.  The spark plugs were just changed but this  
was happening before they were changed as well if that helps.  Any  
thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
Kristi

'74 RWA Midget "Mini Lee"
'77 Midget

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Jun 19 19:36:59 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:36:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Lake of the Ozarks Weather Outlook
References: <43840a7e0806191802mbb728ebk1a13b75d29da3a46@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E764FA131F664C6B8A8EAFE14C14664A@Dell9200>

Thanks but the real question is:  Did you get your oil gusher fixed and 
ready to roll?

Mark
Packing Up!






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Lake of the Ozarks Weather Outlook



Okay...  We are now within range to provide a little accuracy with a weather
forecast so here goes...

OUTLOOK:  The overall circulation pattern across the US for the next couple
of weeks (perhaps longer) should place the main storm track in the
westerlies across the northern tier of states in the US. This means that
disturbances in the flow should remain north of the Missouri area while mean
westerly flow aloft across the Rockies will produce a warm air low pressure
system across the high plains regions with some very hot temperatures from
Eastern Wyoming south into West Texas panhandle. Further east to the
Missouri river valley and the Ozarks, upper level flow should be very weak.
This will support the current Global Forecast System idea of a very weak
westward extension of the semi-permanent Bermuda high pressure system across
the southeast US into Missouri. As a result, temperatures should be
reasonably seasonable with little chance for rain.

My Personal Osage Beach...
FORECAST:
Wednesday...Partly cloudy in the afternoon with a high in the in the mid to
upper 80s. South to southeast winds around 10 mph.
Wednesday Night...A 20 percent chance for mainly evening showers or a
thunderstorm then clear. A low in the upper 60s.
Thursday thru Sunday...Mostly clear. Highs in the upper 80s and lows in the
60s. South to southeast winds around 10 mph.

I promised Larry Macy an outlook for MG2008 at Valley Forge.  All the above
holds true except there should be an upper disturbance move east southeast
across the northeastern part of the country forcing a weak and diffuse
frontal zone across Pennsylvania on Friday. Therefore, I would expect at
least some chance for afternoon showers on Friday.  Otherwise, daily highs
in the upper 80s with lows in the 60s and mostly sunny skies except Friday
when there will be a bit more cloud, especially in the afternoon.

Cheers!!
Jim, the retired weather guy...

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 19 19:48:53 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:48:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
In-Reply-To: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
References: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000801c8d277$cc94e3b0$de1df304@spider>

Could be distributor advance problem or something in the carb's accelerator
circuit. ...bill
=========================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Kristi & Lambert
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:33 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing

Hi all,
	The last couple of times that I have driven the Midget I keep having

this same problem.  The car feels like it is missing as I accelerate.   
The car "sputters" around 3500 RPM's during acceleration.  It actually  
sounds like there is a gurgle while the car is trying to get past 3500  
RPM's.  Before and after 3500 RPM's it seems fine.  This only is  
happening as far as I can tell when I am accelerating and not when I  
am at a constant speed.  The spark plugs were just changed but this  
was happening before they were changed as well if that helps.  Any  
thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
Kristi

'74 RWA Midget "Mini Lee"
'77 Midget
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 19:54:06 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:54:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <44235D0994234D87B849B80049C3D3E8@bills>
References: <3C67BF702F9A4FADA92066EE491CC6A0@Home>
	<E1K9OOz-0004cw-Iw@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<44235D0994234D87B849B80049C3D3E8@bills>
Message-ID: <485B0DBE.90601@comcast.net>

Bill Miller (LBCs) wrote:
>
> There are good grades of stainless and bad grades of stainless.  
>   
My wife bought a stainless steel patio ice cooler. It was a rusty hunk 
of junk in about a month.
made in china out of the worlds *finest* dung forged stainless uh, stuff.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 19:59:59 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:59:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806191737n551a1d22m41e508ce25093c15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
	<006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>
	<C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<e98d88090806191737n551a1d22m41e508ce25093c15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806191859i4596eb64t238aab3cfc226a88@mail.gmail.com>

Final resolution, before pushing the M'Fer back into the garage. Fluid only
coming out on a pressure bleed. Pedal develops pressure 1/4 way down, but
still won't disengage the clutch. This is the most expensive lawn ornament
I've ever owned...

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Back flush, via compressing the slave with a large pair of welding pliers.
> Pressure bleeding, with the front of the car raised.
> Still, no joy.......
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
>> A brake line with fitting is screwed in place of the bleeder and bent to
>> go
>> where you want.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> > I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave?  Do you attache
>> > it
>> > to the back of the slave or the output side?
>> >
>> > I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me.
>> >
>> >
>> > Charles M. "Monty" Love
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:04:16 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:04:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm jealous - HELP
In-Reply-To: <14B0A5DD-E1AF-4407-9270-68435234A777@phillymgclub.com>
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How bad was that crash?
Lin

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> I remember that story Brit Run to the Sun. I followed along every day.
> It was a sad day when Dick crashed.
>
> Larry
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 2:02 PM, David Lieb wrote:
>
> >> Jim in Homer (and the rest of ya'll & as David will recall) the is NO
> >> reason for you to NOT take part in LotO !!!
> >>
> >> http://www.mgaguru.com/mg11.htm
> >>
> >> It would actually be a "short" trip, Jim !!!! Right David???  <VBG>
> >
> > Yeah, especially since you don't HAVE to go from Chicago to Alaska
> > by way of
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:09:27 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:09:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
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Yea that is a very good question. I was so damn close to buying it and I
forgot I have a student in England who would have picked it up too.
The search continues.
Lin

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

>  Hi Linda,
>
> Yep, that is it.  I have to say that the top looks excellent on a MK II
> Sprite!  I would like to get a hold of one also.  I wonder how many were
> made?
>
> Mike C
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Grunthaner
> Sent: Jun 12, 2008 11:03 AM
> To: Mike/Donna Carpenter
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
>
> Mike, Donna & Spridgets,
> Is this the hardtop you describe? If so it is called Warwick and yes made
> by Healey. It will fit the square MKII & III as well as the Bugeye although
> looks best on the MKII or MKIII (windowless side curtain square body
> Sprites). I've been looking for one for 2 years ever since saw one on a
> square body Sprite while I read several articles on the Healey Co. and so
> far I only found one in the UK. Unfortunately even though it was on eBay the
> owner wouldn't let me bid because I couldn't pick it up. From what I've
> heard these Warwicks will sell for approximately $1500. if you can even find
> one although I am determined to own one so I'll just have to save up and
> keep looking. I think the one in the UK (needed lots of work) sold for
> around $400. to $600. US dollars even with shipping overseas it would have
> been a great deal. They are so cool : )
> Happy motoring,
> Linda
>
> Sorry you all can't see the image, but if interested I'll send it to those
> interested. I can't seem to find the website for it I only have a pict file.
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
> mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey you Spridgeteers,
>>
>> Does anyone know who or is the owner of the iris blue '63 Sprite with very
>> rare Healey hardtop that raced at VIR last weekend?  The hardtop was really
>> neat and the Sprite was excellent.  I beautiful car with the right period
>> size tires.
>>
>> Mike C
>>
>>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 20:12:17 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:12:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806191859i4596eb64t238aab3cfc226a88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
	<006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>
	<C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
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	<e98d88090806191859i4596eb64t238aab3cfc226a88@mail.gmail.com>
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Brad Fornal wrote:
> Final resolution, before pushing the M'Fer back into the garage. Fluid only
> coming out on a pressure bleed. Pedal develops pressure 1/4 way down, but
> still won't disengage the clutch. This is the most expensive lawn ornament
> I've ever owned...
>
>   
Brad, if you have a 5/16 nyloc nut, stick in on the slave rod, this will 
extend the rod enough to at least let you know if it's too short.
The round end of a nyloc nut fits nice in the cup of the slave piston.
The length of the rod on a 1275 is 2-11/16"

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:12:18 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:12:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <d5f.2f1581a0.3582b5f2@aol.com>
References: <d5f.2f1581a0.3582b5f2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806191912t1fc65ec8vc99df5b4a5ef7d08@mail.gmail.com>

Weslake,
I just had a visit from my former student who now lives (duel citizen UK) in
England and he would have held it & bought it for me. Too bad I forgot. But
I have his new email address so I think I'll give it another try. It sure is
one sweet top.
Lin

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:25 PM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  Hi Lynda,
>
> What you have to do is find a UK biddder and also someone in the UK who can
> collect and store the item and then ship it to the USA.
>
> I've done quite a lot of UK bidding for folk in the USA and they've done
> the same for me.  However, I can't collect any big items as my only car is a
> Sprite.
>
> regards
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
>
> In a message dated 12/06/2008 16:03:41 GMT Daylight Time,
> grunthaner at gmail.com writes:
>
> Unfortunately even though it was on eBay the
> owner wouldn't let me bid because I couldn't pick it up

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:12:59 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <02c501c8cd03$6c589600$6601a8c0@shop>
References: <d5f.2f1581a0.3582b5f2@aol.com>
	<02c501c8cd03$6c589600$6601a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <205cef430806191912l4a7a5cb0ge36a0d6eb0840dbd@mail.gmail.com>

The seller said pick up only.
Lin

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<However, I can't collect any big items as my only car is  a Sprite.>>
>
> Pray tell 1312, WHY could you NOT "collect" a Spridget Hardtop???
>
> Enquiring minds and all that ?!?!?!
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:15:27 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:15:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <007401c8cd7b$a1dfcf50$01fea8c0@C600>
References: <c9e.2f257f07.35838584@aol.com>
	<007401c8cd7b$a1dfcf50$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <205cef430806191915qbe606bbu9cbc88104356e063@mail.gmail.com>

I just love it : )
Lin

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Kate <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Amateur!  I've carried nine bales of hay home on mine.  A few days later I
> met a lady at a thrift store that loaded a king size water bed (complete),
> two pre-teen kids, and was stopping on her way home to get groceries.
>
> Kate
> >
> > However, I'm probably the only lister who have driven with a brand new
> > bonnet lashed to the boot and rear roll bar to get it louvred and who
> couldn't  a
> > fford a rental car
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Jun 19 20:16:21 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:16:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Kopex redux  opinions please..
In-Reply-To: <0D0B8E9A-4DBC-4858-A259-511EDA9D6ED8@comcast.net>
References: <006e01c8d22a$5e8dcd70$6501a8c0@shop>
	<5CEB5879-6B35-4248-B18C-B9C043E9B542@comcast.net>
	<005401c8d253$b36972d0$6501a8c0@shop>
	<0D0B8E9A-4DBC-4858-A259-511EDA9D6ED8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1F15A047-3534-420A-A2D9-663881669E4A@mac.com>

Sorry I have not been keeping up with this discussion so if I am off  
base just dump this.

But if you are talking about the fresh air duct to the heater it is  
generically called elephant trunk and is available in several forms  
from industrial supply companies.  It is a spiral wire covered with  
some type of material.  I chose a double wall higher temperature  
material.  The double wall is done so the interior is smooth, better  
air flow but probable is not important in this application.  When I  
replaced mine 10 years ago it was about 25% of what Moss wanted and  
at least 300% better or there about.  I will be glad to get you more  
info after July 6.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 19, 2008, at 2:12 PM, Lester wrote:

> hmm.. maybe I didn't put that well..
>
> The original stuff has a loose spiral of wire with a paper outer
> coating.  The spiral is loose enough that one could cut the tubing
> and there would be *one* spot where the spiral wire is cut and the
> rest would be the paper.  Closer to clothes drier vent line in it's
> spacing.  if you push your finger into the side you would make a tear
> in the paper which is now damaged forever.
>
> The stuff that I have from Moss is actually a spiral wound *sheet of
> thin metal* that has a paper coating.  If you look at the end of the
> stuff from Moss you will see a continuous band of aluminum.  If you
> push your finger into the side of the pipe it will make a dent which
> you can push out from inside.
>
> It is certainly possible that I am wrong about this.
>
> What say ye all?
>
> Lester
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2008, at 4:30 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:
>
>> <<there is not a solid metal core but a loose wire spiral..>>
>>
>> Which IS how it is supposed to be, Lester!!  There is/has NEVER
>> been a "solid metal core".  PERIOD.
>>
>> Ask Biff, Jay, Buster, maybe Peter, and Frank if you do not believe
>> me.
>>
>> For the life of me I can't even imagine WHAT you are thinking
>> of!?!?!?!?!
>>
>> I also am one that bought his Frogeye NEW off the show room floor
>> (and YES I wish to God I had NEVER let it go!!!).
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:16:40 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:16:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <001201c8cd93$56e76130$01fea8c0@C600>
References: <bde.3084df01.358430b6@aol.com>
	<001201c8cd93$56e76130$01fea8c0@C600>
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Has anyone ever tried to get as many people in a Spridget and taken a photo
like the 60's commercials?
Lin

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Kate <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> Yes.
>
>
>
>  Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a Spridget?
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:17:07 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:17:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <d11.2b2d52f1.358431e4@aol.com>
References: <d11.2b2d52f1.358431e4@aol.com>
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A photo would be so cool.
lin

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:26 PM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> OK, that is something but did she make a round trip of over 70 miles and
>  get
> up to 70mph and do you have a photo.
>
> In a message dated 13/06/2008 21:24:10 GMT Daylight Time,
> kgb at frontiernet.net writes:
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
>
>
> Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a  Spridget?
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From davriker at nwi.net  Thu Jun 19 20:23:33 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:23:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <007101c8d1fa$425a6a30$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
Message-ID: <00e501c8d27c$a374fd30$6600a8c0@dave>

Every time I have had a 1275 equipped spridget with a clutch that would not 
fully disengage it was due to wear at any and all mechanical points along 
the way and never due to a failure of the master or slave cylinder.
1. Worn hole in top of clutch pedal
2. Worn clevis pin at clutch pedal to master cylinder push rod
3. Worn hole in clutch master cylinder push rod
4. Worn clevis pin at clutch slave cylinder
5. Worn hole in clutch release arm
6. Worn bushings on clutch release arm pivot.
7.  Worn carbon throw out bearing
8.  Worn fingers on the clutch pressure plate
9.  Old flex hose that "balloons" under pressure.

These weak points all tend to wear out at the same rate, and fixing only one 
of them will not solve the problem.  They must all be renewed at the same 
time.

The slave cylinder from a 1098 is a smaller bore, and can be substituted for 
the correct one on a 1275.  Because the bore is smaller, the same amount of 
pedal travel will result in more travel of the clutch release arm.
David Riker
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
To: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>; <tequila.brad at gmail.com>; <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass


> Fitting a longer pushrod may help, but do be careful not to "overthrow" 
> the
> clutch.  That is, to overcompress the clutch cover fingers which can then
> distort and destroy the clutch.
> The distance that the clutch mechanism moves between fully released and 
> full
> compressed is not actually controlled by the length of the slave pushrod,
> but by the amount of fluid displaced when you press the pedal. 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:31:01 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00e501c8d27c$a374fd30$6600a8c0@dave>
References: <007101c8d1fa$425a6a30$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<00e501c8d27c$a374fd30$6600a8c0@dave>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806191931v2217d69ek70a7f838792fb41e@mail.gmail.com>

If I may, I'll address each of your points..

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:23 PM, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:

> Every time I have had a 1275 equipped spridget with a clutch that would not
> fully disengage it was due to wear at any and all mechanical points along
> the way and never due to a failure of the master or slave cylinder.
> 1. Worn hole in top of clutch pedal

Yes, slightly worn, BUT, it was working fine BEFORE the rebuild

>
> 2. Worn clevis pin at clutch pedal to master cylinder push rod

NEW

>
> 3. Worn hole in clutch master cylinder push rod

NEW

>
> 4. Worn clevis pin at clutch slave cylinder

LIKE NEW, NO WEAR

>
> 5. Worn hole in clutch release arm

NEW

>
> 6. Worn bushings on clutch release arm pivot.

NEW

>
> 7.  Worn carbon throw out bearing

NEW

>
> 8.  Worn fingers on the clutch pressure plate

NEW

>
> 9.  Old flex hose that "balloons" under pressure.

NEW

>
>
> These weak points all tend to wear out at the same rate, and fixing only
> one of them will not solve the problem.  They must all be renewed at the
> same time.
>
> The slave cylinder from a 1098 is a smaller bore, and can be substituted
> for the correct one on a 1275.  Because the bore is smaller, the same amount
> of pedal travel will result in more travel of the clutch release arm.

THIS WON'T WORK, AS THE LINE COMING INTO THE 1098 IS SMALLER THAN THE 1275
FLEX LINE

>
> David Riker
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>
> To: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>; <tequila.brad at gmail.com>; <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 3:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
> Brass
>
>
>  Fitting a longer pushrod may help, but do be careful not to "overthrow"
>> the
>> clutch.  That is, to overcompress the clutch cover fingers which can then
>> distort and destroy the clutch.
>> The distance that the clutch mechanism moves between fully released and
>> full
>> compressed is not actually controlled by the length of the slave pushrod,
>> but by the amount of fluid displaced when you press the pedal.
>>
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:41:51 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:41:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Almost not LBC finally got a fairly rust free Split
 Window VW Bus 2nd time arround
Message-ID: <205cef430806191941m427220f1l4fa6a0a8fd3bee01@mail.gmail.com>

My poor little Sprite has been waiting for me to stop whoring around in the
VW world I just bought a 67 Pop-Top VW Westy Bus. It has a factory roof
rack, rare to find ice box and US over rider bumpers. She is currently at my
friends junk yard sharing a trailer with his parents early 60's his & hers
Corvetts waiting to be restored too. I have to buy the glass gaskets
everything is in boxes in the bus but she is a driver and my 66 rusty bus
has good parts to swap if needed. I wonder if she can pull a Sprite to the
camp site : )

BTW when my friend and former student's parents got married they had 10 of
their friends in the wedding party come in there early 60's Vetts both
parents still have his and hers Vetts. (sharing that trailer) I am happy to
say both parents are very good friends but can't live with each other ( I
guess she got tired of all the car parts in the living room.
Lin

I see nothing wrong with car & cycle parts in the living room but to keep
peace I keep it all in the garage.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 20:42:54 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:42:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<9B5440A8-883A-4FE5-A1BC-0BF262803290@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <010401c8d27f$579f5b00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

No offense Gerard, but you have to back the " more corrosion issues with 
Stainless than brass"
statement with some real data.

At the minimum I know that there is a greater galvanic potential between 
brass and steel vs. stainless and steel.
Brass is also softer than stainless steel.   I think that is an issue 
especially in the clutch bore of the MC where
more wear occurs due to more frequent use and longer stroke.

The outfit http://www.resleeve.com looks to have been doing stainless for a 
long time, and on a lot different makes.
I would think there would be a reason for them not using brass.

I am in no way critizing the work that Joe is doing not to mention your own 
efforts...
Brass may be adequate and cost effective as per Peter C's comments.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerard Chateauvieux" <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>

> OK, my .02 cents...
>
> There are more corrosion issues with Stainless than brass. There are
> good articles on the Internet that document the issues. I don't have
> the links handy at the moment, but they are out there. I think one
> thing that many people do not realize is that once the pores in
> stainless become contaminated with a different metal it will rust.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:46:53 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:46:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for Sale
In-Reply-To: <42672.212.166.46.72.1213696251.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>
References: <48576E87.1010408@cox.net>
	<42672.212.166.46.72.1213696251.squirrel@webmail01.one.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806191946o3eeac1b9l66f39d4c44724597@mail.gmail.com>

When I was at Carlisle I spoke with a guy selling books and models and he
said they are now making the 1:18 scale Square body Sprite & or Midget. They
won't be out for several more months and I have to look for his card and let
you know which company it is but this will be cool to paint our square body
Spridgets and een try out some stripes prior to the real thing. Whoooo
wouldn't it be cool to get a Warwick hardtop on it too.
Lin

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:50 AM, <midget at maxengland.com> wrote:

> Does anybody know if a 1/24 spridget model was ever made? can't find
> anything on google..
>
> Max
> http://www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget
>
> > This one's a little smaller than most. :-) Easy to park though.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250260168923
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave Ambrose
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 19 20:53:04 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:53:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <44235D0994234D87B849B80049C3D3E8@bills>
Message-ID: <E1K9WkI-0000OK-SC@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Bill Miller wrote:  " The stainless did not "rust"  It was just the mild
steel the brillo pad impregnanted into the surface of the stainless steel"

I should have made myself clear on that point, for it was the steel in the
Brillo pads that, ground into the surface, produced the rust all over.

Bill Miller wrote:   "I believe the tax payers got soaked for $40K by a
company that told you they were ruined to sell some more."

Oh, if it were only that simple.   We are talking about 20 large rolling
racks of various size animal cages, ranging from 12 to 8 cages per racks,
all of which were seriously dirty because of 10 months of improperly cleaned
animal urine and feces.   The "technician" in question took it upon himself
to "clean" these cages without telling the Microbiology Department chairman.
The tech had previously been reprimanded by the chairman on numerous
occasions.  After the rust appeared, the chairman set him to "polishing"
them, but the task was monumental (think for a moment of all the round bars
and junction welds in that many cages).   The tech "could not" clean a
single cage per day.   The problem was compounded by the incredibly
demanding requirements of the FDA, Dept. of Ag, and ALAC (animals are
literally better protected than humans), forcing immediate remediation
before classes resumed.   The only alternative was the purchase of new cages
and racks.  The tech?   Oh, yes, he was also the campus union steward!
Sabotage?  Naw, who would ever think that?

No, I fear it was not any company that screwed the taxpayers.

Buster

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 20:58:16 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:58:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I am close to getting 5" Libres
Message-ID: <205cef430806191958k73c9804saf726b64367b2d52@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Several months ago I posted on an LBC site (can't recall which one) my need
for 5" Libre wheels and 2 guys replied one was for a new in the box never
bee opened Libres which he wanted over $1200. for and another for around
$500. I lost out on the cheaper set as I drooled over the new still in the
box ones, btw the lugnuts were still wrapped in plastic on cardboard.
Although if I went for the new in the box Libres I probably would have put
those in the living room to just look at because they should never be on the
road they are that nice. But a few months ago another guy sent me a message
that he was selling another fairly nice set of 5" Libres for $400. I was
still looking at VW buses at the time and didn't follow through in a timely
fashion and he was always hard to get to reply as he was on multiple
business trips but I just heard from him again the other day and I hope to
buy them when he returns from over seas. The 7" Libries I had before were
way way too close for comfort but I think these 5" will do the trick on the
square body Sprite. Will the Moss Motors lug nuts fit these or do I have to
shop around for used lug nuts?
Lin

I used to think cars and cycles were obsessive then I got hooked on parts :
)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 19 21:07:07 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <010401c8d27f$579f5b00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <548115.15915.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

BUMMER SITE DEAN 
   
  Others - DO NOT GO TO THE WEB SITE -  http://www.resleeve.com 
   
  I got a virus alert - That says it can not be repaired...............Vigil
  

Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
  No offense Gerard, but you have to back the " more corrosion issues with 
Stainless than brass"
statement with some real data.

At the minimum I know that there is a greater galvanic potential between 
brass and steel vs. stainless and steel.
Brass is also softer than stainless steel. I think that is an issue 
especially in the clutch bore of the MC where
more wear occurs due to more frequent use and longer stroke.

The outfit http://www.resleeve.com looks to have been doing stainless for a 
long time, and on a lot different makes.
I would think there would be a reason for them not using brass.

I am in no way critizing the work that Joe is doing not to mention your own 
efforts...
Brass may be adequate and cost effective as per Peter C's comments.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerard Chateauvieux" 


> OK, my .02 cents...
>
> There are more corrosion issues with Stainless than brass. There are
> good articles on the Internet that document the issues. I don't have
> the links handy at the moment, but they are out there. I think one
> thing that many people do not realize is that once the pores in
> stainless become contaminated with a different metal it will rust.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 21:08:11 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:08:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] roadside attractions on the way to LoOz
In-Reply-To: <E420F3C3584346FDA202CD1C82F6C15F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <E420F3C3584346FDA202CD1C82F6C15F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <205cef430806192008p49dc8b0fvda8c2ef8d91a9d98@mail.gmail.com>

Glen,
Get a picture of your Spridget in front of the twine : )
Lin

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> I'd been joking with family and friends that I take the back routes so I
> can
> see stuff like the world's biggest ball of twine.  Imagine my surprise when
> I
> was searching Kansas for things to see on the way through and found this:
>
> http://skyways.lib.ks.us/towns/Cawker/twine.html
>
> My heart if full.
>
> Glen Byrns
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 21:19:11 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:19:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Luck to all those heading to the Ozarks 50th
	Anniversary
Message-ID: <205cef430806192019k431b2109l161bd04dabb880b2@mail.gmail.com>

Good Luck to all those heading to the Ozarks 50th Anniversary, may dry
weather be over your Spridgets and spare parts surround you when needed.
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From herby at herbytoys.com  Thu Jun 19 21:23:25 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:23:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I am close to getting 5" Libres
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806191958k73c9804saf726b64367b2d52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002501c8d285$010642d0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ>

You need mag type lug nuts like these http://tinyurl.com/4u3auv

If the link doesn't work search ebay item 250259117681

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com


List,
Several months ago I posted on an LBC site (can't recall which one) my need
for 5" Libre wheels and 2 guys replied one was for a new in the box never
bee opened Libres which he wanted over $1200. for and another for around
$500. I lost out on the cheaper set as I drooled over the new still in the
box ones, btw the lugnuts were still wrapped in plastic on cardboard.
Although if I went for the new in the box Libres I probably would have put
those in the living room to just look at because they should never be on the
road they are that nice. But a few months ago another guy sent me a message
that he was selling another fairly nice set of 5" Libres for $400. I was
still looking at VW buses at the time and didn't follow through in a timely
fashion and he was always hard to get to reply as he was on multiple
business trips but I just heard from him again the other day and I hope to
buy them when he returns from over seas. The 7" Libries I had before were
way way too close for comfort but I think these 5" will do the trick on the
square body Sprite. Will the Moss Motors lug nuts fit these or do I have to
shop around for used lug nuts?
Lin

I used to think cars and cycles were obsessive then I got hooked on parts :
)

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 19 22:29:48 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 22:29:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <548115.15915.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004201c8d28e$46f1cd60$6501a8c0@shop>

<<  Others - DO NOT GO TO THE WEB SITE -  http://www.resleeve.com 
   
  I got a virus alert - >>

Must be just you Vigil, NO prob here!?!?!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 21:41:50 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:41:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <548115.15915.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <016901c8d287$93c3a6b0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Yea,  don't go there as they have stainless sleeves.
Fine..whatever...I must have touched a nerve...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com 
To: Dean Hedin ; spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless


BUMMER SITE DEAN 

Others - DO NOT GO TO THE WEB SITE -  http://www.resleeve.com 

I got a virus alert - That says it can not be repaired...............Vigil

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 21:46:50 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:46:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I am close to getting 5" Libres
In-Reply-To: <002501c8d285$010642d0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ>
References: <205cef430806191958k73c9804saf726b64367b2d52@mail.gmail.com>
	<002501c8d285$010642d0$6501a8c0@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <205cef430806192046m505c1a4fu62574cd87c7a7f8a@mail.gmail.com>

Cool Herby thanks Lin

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Herby <herby at herbytoys.com> wrote:

> You need mag type lug nuts like these http://tinyurl.com/4u3auv
>
> If the link doesn't work search ebay item 250259117681
>
> Herby
> 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
> 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
> 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
> herby at herbytoys.com
> www.herbytoys.com
>
>
> List,
> Several months ago I posted on an LBC site (can't recall which one) my need
> for 5" Libre wheels and 2 guys replied one was for a new in the box never
> bee opened Libres which he wanted over $1200. for and another for around
> $500. I lost out on the cheaper set as I drooled over the new still in the
> box ones, btw the lugnuts were still wrapped in plastic on cardboard.
> Although if I went for the new in the box Libres I probably would have put
> those in the living room to just look at because they should never be on
> the
> road they are that nice. But a few months ago another guy sent me a message
> that he was selling another fairly nice set of 5" Libres for $400. I was
> still looking at VW buses at the time and didn't follow through in a timely
> fashion and he was always hard to get to reply as he was on multiple
> business trips but I just heard from him again the other day and I hope to
> buy them when he returns from over seas. The 7" Libries I had before were
> way way too close for comfort but I think these 5" will do the trick on the
> square body Sprite. Will the Moss Motors lug nuts fit these or do I have to
> shop around for used lug nuts?
> Lin
>
> I used to think cars and cycles were obsessive then I got hooked on parts :
> )

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 19 21:57:12 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:57:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Luck to all those heading to the Ozarks 50th
 Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806192019k431b2109l161bd04dabb880b2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60011.53528.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would like to wish a safe journey to all the people traveling to and from the Qzarks 50th. Sounds like great fun and a good time to meet a lot of great people.  Have fun.......
   
  Vigil

Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
  Good Luck to all those heading to the Ozarks 50th Anniversary, may dry
weather be over your Spridgets and spare parts surround you when needed.
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 19 22:42:47 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <016901c8d287$93c3a6b0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <839501.62732.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 Dean,
   
  I did not have a problem with the SS sleeving. It was the Virus that i did not care for.
   
  I have run brass and SS with no problems. So i found the thread interesting. 
   
  Sorry you took it personal. It was not meant to hurt feeling. You really should read the whole email message before you display your attitude. I put a Virus alert after the do not go to the site. Nothing about SS sleeves bad or good. 
   
  Vigil


Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
  Yea, don't go there as they have stainless sleeves.
Fine..whatever...I must have touched a nerve...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com 
To: Dean Hedin ; spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless


BUMMER SITE DEAN 

Others - DO NOT GO TO THE WEB SITE - http://www.resleeve.com 

I got a virus alert - That says it can not be repaired...............Vigil
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 19 23:06:36 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:06:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
In-Reply-To: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
References: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806192206gd72577cncb0d16c1c35b0d5c@mail.gmail.com>

When did you last top up the dash pots?

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/19/08, Kristi & Lambert <kristi74midget at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>         The last couple of times that I have driven the Midget I keep
> having
> this same problem.  The car feels like it is missing as I accelerate.
> The car "sputters" around 3500 RPM's during acceleration.  It actually
> sounds like there is a gurgle while the car is trying to get past 3500
> RPM's.  Before and after 3500 RPM's it seems fine.  This only is
> happening as far as I can tell when I am accelerating and not when I
> am at a constant speed.  The spark plugs were just changed but this
> was happening before they were changed as well if that helps.  Any
> thoughts?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kristi
>
> '74 RWA Midget "Mini Lee"
> '77 Midget
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29,
2008!!
For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 23:32:40 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:32:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <839501.62732.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001401c8d297$0ef856f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Fine then,  Tell me all about this virus you got from the site.
I went there, I didn't get infected by anything.
Ed posted that he went there and he did'nt get anything...

Tell me what the problem is and we can email the owner of the website
so they can fix it.

I mean, that is a better course is'nt it?  Instead of broadcasting on the 
email list
"DONT GO TO THIS SITE".  By doing that you could be potentially hurting
his business, Right?

After all, the guy is just trying to earn an honest buck running a 
re-sleeving
service.   If his website has been taken over by hackers then he should know
about it.  Right?

Do you want to email him or should I?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
 Dean,

I did not have a problem with the SS sleeving. It was the Virus that i did 
not care for.

I have run brass and SS with no problems. So i found the thread interesting.

Sorry you took it personal. It was not meant to hurt feeling. You really 
should read the whole email message before you display your attitude. I put 
a Virus alert after the do not go to the site. Nothing about SS sleeves bad 
or good.

Vigil

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Jun 20 00:22:45 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:22:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <001401c8d297$0ef856f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <20080620062248.7803F187654@autox.team.net>

I don't care what you want to do, have one made from gold for all I care.
Most of the people just tried to tell you that there was a master that works
and will last a long time. Stainless is just harder to work with that's all.
I would think that would mean it cost more.  Since you want to do it and
know a place that will do it, go for it and in 50 years you can post "see I
told you so" and twenty people will post but my brass one is still working
too.  I really don't think posting "Don't go to this site" will cost them
any business as you are the only one so far that is going stainless.  They
are using 304 you might ask why not 316? Now if he will make one in 3/4"
from a 7/8" out of 316 with new pistons for the same cost let me know I
might just try one.  Replace your LMA once a year and I bet either one will
last longer than you will. Can we go back to tapered cone bearings with or
with out the spacer now???? 
		Crash 

Fine then,  Tell me all about this virus you got from the site.
I went there, I didn't get infected by anything.
Ed posted that he went there and he did'nt get anything...

Tell me what the problem is and we can email the owner of the website
so they can fix it.

I mean, that is a better course is'nt it?  Instead of broadcasting on the 
email list
"DONT GO TO THIS SITE".  By doing that you could be potentially hurting
his business, Right?

After all, the guy is just trying to earn an honest buck running a 
re-sleeving
service.   If his website has been taken over by hackers then he should know
about it.  Right?

Do you want to email him or should I?

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 00:36:53 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <001401c8d297$0ef856f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <854137.44846.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dean,
   
  Do what ever - i really do not care - 
  You are already slamming me for trying to warn others.
  I do not give a rats a$$ about the site or their business.
  I really do not like being called a liar on top of every thing..
  Why do you think i would make it up. 
  Ed may not have had a problem. I never said he did.
  I said my program saw a virus. 
   
  Vigil
   
  Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
  Fine then, Tell me all about this virus you got from the site.
I went there, I didn't get infected by anything.
Ed posted that he went there and he did'nt get anything...

Tell me what the problem is and we can email the owner of the website
so they can fix it.

I mean, that is a better course is'nt it? Instead of broadcasting on the 
email list
"DONT GO TO THIS SITE". By doing that you could be potentially hurting
his business, Right?

After all, the guy is just trying to earn an honest buck running a 
re-sleeving
service. If his website has been taken over by hackers then he should know
about it. Right?

Do you want to email him or should I?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Dean,

I did not have a problem with the SS sleeving. It was the Virus that i did 
not care for.

I have run brass and SS with no problems. So i found the thread interesting.

Sorry you took it personal. It was not meant to hurt feeling. You really 
should read the whole email message before you display your attitude. I put 
a Virus alert after the do not go to the site. Nothing about SS sleeves bad 
or good.

Vigil
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 01:17:13 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:17:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
Message-ID: <E1K9aru-0007je-Vk@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Bob Walker wrote:  "On the animal issue, I agree. We have people up here
going to jail because they cannot afford to "properly" feed the animals per
somebody's opinion."

 

Well, that sounds good to me.   Starving a pet is animal abuse, and they
should go to jail.   If someone cannot "afford" to feed a pet according to
*society's* laws, they should not keep an animal.  They can get a Pet Rock.
But don't get me wrong.  I am one of those who favor the drawing and
quartering PETA nutters.

 

Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 01:21:57 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:21:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <854137.44846.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004f01c8d2a6$52fa0420$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Virgil, I'm not slamming you or calling you a liar.
What is the nature of this virus so we can let the site owner know about it?
 I went there too, maybe my scanner missed something and now my computer
 is infected.

 Did your program give a name or description or something?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com


Dean,

Do what ever - i really do not care -
You are already slamming me for trying to warn others.
I do not give a rats a$$ about the site or their business.
I really do not like being called a liar on top of every thing..
Why do you think i would make it up.
Ed may not have had a problem. I never said he did.
I said my program saw a virus.

Vigil

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 01:35:11 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:35:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
Message-ID: <006801c8d2a8$2be49b00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Actually all I originally wanted to know is if there was someone out there 
that had
gone with stainless and could relate success/failure they had with it.
That's all..Sorry for it turning into a big mess...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>

>I don't care what you want to do, have one made from gold for all I care.
> Most of the people just tried to tell you that there was a master that 
> works
> and will last a long time. Stainless is just harder to work with that's 
> all.
> I would think that would mean it cost more.  Since you want to do it and
> know a place that will do it, go for it and in 50 years you can post "see 
> I
> told you so" and twenty people will post but my brass one is still working
> too.  I really don't think posting "Don't go to this site" will cost them
> any business as you are the only one so far that is going stainless.  They
> are using 304 you might ask why not 316? Now if he will make one in 3/4"
> from a 7/8" out of 316 with new pistons for the same cost let me know I
> might just try one.  Replace your LMA once a year and I bet either one 
> will
> last longer than you will. Can we go back to tapered cone bearings with or
> with out the spacer now????
> Crash

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 04:24:57 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:24:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>

List,

I start teaching summer school on Monday and the best part is we make stuff
go and there are no exams. Mag Lev Cars, Solar Cars and Co2 Cars one week
each. I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug their parents for
the car keys early.

Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 04:30:50 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:30:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
Message-ID: <205cef430806200330t2679c1f4p27aa63d69489016@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I just got this from Anita in WA (she too has a pristine MKII in deep pink).
We both laughed that he called it salmon and the funny thing is my po listed
my pink Sprite salmon too. Come on guys is it a guy thing to call your pink
car salmon .......hehehehe. If he gets anywhere near 14K for his MKII I'll
eat my salmon car : )
I sent him a message for pictures as I am trying to set up a database of all
existing deep pink Sprites to send to Terry Horler.
Enjoy

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html

62 California Sprite "Pinky......er....... Sally Salmon?"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Jun 20 05:01:52 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:01:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '63 Sprite - VIR
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806191916r4c1cf915u1f3d38c82a94c2c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bde.3084df01.358430b6@aol.com>
	<001201c8cd93$56e76130$01fea8c0@C600>
	<205cef430806191916r4c1cf915u1f3d38c82a94c2c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D88BC943-4392-41D1-A485-E2F389B701C4@phillymgclub.com>

I had nine (includes a 5 year old child who now drives a Midget and a  
4'10 90 lbs ex-wife) and drove across town to a picnic and back. Just  
glad no one fell off and we didn't end up in jail. Somewhere I have an  
old photo, but I have no earthly idea where.

Larry

On Jun 19, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> Has anyone ever tried to get as many people in a Spridget and taken  
> a photo
> like the 60's commercials?
> Lin
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Kate <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Was the lady that loaded the water bed also driving a Spridget?
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 05:11:10 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:11:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <20080620062248.7803F187654@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <844953.129.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> last longer than you will. Can we go back to tapered cone
> bearings with or
> with out the spacer now???? 
> 		Crash 

With.

Anon

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jun 20 05:44:33 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:44:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
In-Reply-To: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003701c8d2cb$027b7ae0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Kristi,
Two summers ago, my '72 Midget developed a similar problem to what
you've described.  It turned out to be that a small piece of dirt had
gotten sucked past the air cleaner gasket (DPO had distorted the base
plate for the air cleaner....dumb present owner ignored it for 20+
years), on the back carb, and was interfering with the movement of the
carb piston........really plays havoc with the fuel-air mixture.
I initially thought it might be a fuel supply issue, but, when I
discovered that moving the throttle to wide-open, when the sputtering
began, would cure it every time; I pretty much knew where to look.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Kristi & Lambert
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:33 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing


Hi all,
	The last couple of times that I have driven the Midget I keep
having  
this same problem.  The car feels like it is missing as I accelerate.   
The car "sputters" around 3500 RPM's during acceleration.  It actually  
sounds like there is a gurgle while the car is trying to get past 3500  
RPM's.  Before and after 3500 RPM's it seems fine.  This only is  
happening as far as I can tell when I am accelerating and not when I  
am at a constant speed.  The spark plugs were just changed but this  
was happening before they were changed as well if that helps.  Any  
thoughts?

Thanks in advance,
Kristi

'74 RWA Midget "Mini Lee"
'77 Midget
_______________________________________________

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 06:10:17 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:10:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
Message-ID: <062020081210.25450.485B9E29000DF6540000636A2216548686000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Brad I will ask you the sane question some one asked me when i was about to JUNK mine last october over a similiar issue....How much brake fluid have you poured through the lines?  I went through 3 small bottles before my clutch started to work properly.  and seriously find a 50ml syringe and attach that to the bleed nipple and slowly suck out the air it does work.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com> 

> Final resolution, before pushing the M'Fer back into the garage. Fluid only 
> coming out on a pressure bleed. Pedal develops pressure 1/4 way down, but 
> still won't disengage the clutch. This is the most expensive lawn ornament 
> I've ever owned... 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: 
> 
> > Back flush, via compressing the slave with a large pair of welding pliers. 
> > Pressure bleeding, with the front of the car raised. 
> > Still, no joy....... 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: 
> > 
> >> A brake line with fitting is screwed in place of the bleeder and bent to 
> >> go 
> >> where you want. 
> >> 
> >> Glen 
> >> 
> >> > I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave? Do you attache 
> >> > it 
> >> > to the back of the slave or the output side? 
> >> > 
> >> > I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me. 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Charles M. "Monty" Love 
> >> > Dynetics, Inc. 
> >> > 256-461-2780 
> >> > 256-337-5581 (Cell) 
> >> > 256-882-1543 (Home) 
> >> > ET Test 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun 20 06:25:22 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <844953.129.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6F97CC3845AA4625ACA665A84DDE456F@midget>

>> last longer than you will. Can we go back to tapered cone
>> bearings with or
>> with out the spacer now???? 
>> Crash 
> 
> With.

Without.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 20 06:26:47 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:26:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Deke and BZ ( no lbc )
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3632D9B59FD9D853CF82B4B8A50@phx.gbl>

I just got one of those "hey, ya bought something from us so we think you 
should buy something else emails from Amazon.ca.

It's recommending "More Million Sellers by Deke Dickerson and the 
Ecco-Fonics".  I glanced through the email, and this jumped out at me.

5. Nightmare of a Woman - Deke Dickerson, Billy Zoom

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 20 07:18:55 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Deke and BZ ( no lbc )
References: <BAY112-F3632D9B59FD9D853CF82B4B8A50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <005201c8d2d8$31419690$6401a8c0@Larry>

You know, with a name like Billy Zoom, he should be a race car driver. 
Kinda like Lake Speed or Scott Speed.  The name is just a natural.  When I 
was running a 240Z back in the early 70's there was another Z-car driver by 
the name of Cam.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:26 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Deke and BZ ( no lbc )


I just got one of those "hey, ya bought something from us so we think you
should buy something else emails from Amazon.ca.

It's recommending "More Million Sellers by Deke Dickerson and the
Ecco-Fonics".  I glanced through the email, and this jumped out at me.

5. Nightmare of a Woman - Deke Dickerson, Billy Zoom
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From jerry.goodman at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 07:20:25 2008
From: jerry.goodman at comcast.net (Jerry Goodman)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:20:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
References: <21DA8478-E105-4A88-BD0E-FE686D524A0D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <002f01c8d2d8$674d7ec0$0601a8c0@JERRYSCOMP>

Hi K&L

I had a very similar problem.  After tuning carbs...changing 
filters...changing fuel pump....re-timing....it ended up being swollen 
rubber washers on the carbs....If I remember correctly at the bottom of the 
float bowl.  Dave Lieb was there when after many hours we dicovered the 
problem.  The washers swelled and covered a horizontal hole in a bolt at he 
bottom of the float bowl.   Maybe Dave can elaborate.

JG 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 20 08:01:42 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:01:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <004f01c8d2a6$52fa0420$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <854137.44846.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<004f01c8d2a6$52fa0420$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080620085938.03c19de8@nosimport.com>

Dean,
         I too went to the link you posted. All was fine. But then I 
went to the 'HOME" link and got the same virus alert.I did not go 
farther. I don't know how real the alert is/was, but that is what 
happened to me as well.

         Peter C.
====
At 02:21 AM 6/20/2008, you wrote:
>Virgil, I'm not slamming you or calling you a liar.
>What is the nature of this virus so we can let the site owner know about it?
>  I went there too, maybe my scanner missed something and now my computer
>  is infected.
>
>  Did your program give a name or description or something?

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 08:48:23 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:48:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting advice needed please
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806191859i4596eb64t238aab3cfc226a88@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.16302.1213850866.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<44BB22A8-ED38-445E-B3C5-D58EA07D30BE@gerardsgarage.com>
	<006801c8d247$ebd7d280$6601a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com>
	<C0B94F9260344C4598B6722676D60DC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<e98d88090806191737n551a1d22m41e508ce25093c15@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090806191859i4596eb64t238aab3cfc226a88@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FA85289F-5CC1-485E-82EB-11753DF8BFC4@comcast.net>

Not sure about Bugeye clutch masters but on a Lockheed for a SAAB of a  
similar vintage there is a return cup with a little spring washer at  
the end of the master cylinder.  If you put ANYTHING other than that  
spring washer you will have a problem similar to what you are  
describing as fluid will not be sucked in from the reservoir by the MC  
piston.  Bleeding doesn't help.  Maybe reverse bleeding might work but  
if that little section isn't functioning correctly you don't move  
fluid *IN* from the reservoir.  Just had the same problem and had to  
do this on a formula S..

Lester


On Jun 19, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Final resolution, before pushing the M'Fer back into the garage.  
> Fluid only
> coming out on a pressure bleed. Pedal develops pressure 1/4 way  
> down, but
> still won't disengage the clutch. This is the most expensive lawn  
> ornament
> I've ever owned...
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Brad Fornal  
> <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Back flush, via compressing the slave with a large pair of welding  
>> pliers.
>> Pressure bleeding, with the front of the car raised.
>> Still, no joy.......
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A brake line with fitting is screwed in place of the bleeder and  
>>> bent to
>>> go
>>> where you want.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>>
>>>> I'm confused, how do you run a hard line from the slave?  Do you  
>>>> attache
>>>> it
>>>> to the back of the slave or the output side?
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand, but that's pretty normal for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Charles M. "Monty" Love
>>>> Dynetics, Inc.
>>>> 256-461-2780
>>>> 256-337-5581 (Cell)
>>>> 256-882-1543 (Home)
>>>> ET Test
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>>
>>> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> DON JULIO 1942
>>
>> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
>>
>
>
>
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>
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From bpazur at excel.net  Fri Jun 20 08:53:01 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:53:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
Message-ID: <200806201453.m5KEr1LO018929@green.excel.net>

I just went thru this - a horrible miss. I run two HS2s. I checked everything
- carb, electrical, timing, dwell - no joy. I was checking the floats the
second time when, on a hunch , I blew compressed air thru the jet tubes. My
front tube was totally blocked. I cleaned it out, and the miss improved
greatly. It was odd because I have a fuel filter installed, so I don't know
what caused the blockage. After that I still had a slight miss - I put more
dashpot oil in and that helped.

Bud

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 09:08:57 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:08:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel line diameter..
Message-ID: <16AC3EF6-A559-40FB-8E81-23C10701223F@comcast.net>

Morning all, just one more thing to fix before I go and I wanted to  
fix it right sooo..

Is the hard fuel line in the Bugeye supposed to be 1/4" line,  
continuous from tank to close to the pump?

Thanks and see many of you in less than a week..

Lester

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 09:28:08 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <256154.14341.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Linda,
   
  Great idea. Sounds like fun times for summer school and not just for the kids.  
  I know you will have fun with this class.
   
  Vigil

Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
  List,

I start teaching summer school on Monday and the best part is we make stuff
go and there are no exams. Mag Lev Cars, Solar Cars and Co2 Cars one week
each. I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug their parents for
the car keys early.

Lin
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 11:15:06 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:15:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Linda Grunthaner:  "I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug their
parents for the car keys early."

 

And now, a contrary opinion that many are afraid to voice.

 

Sorry, but some of us believe that type of encouragement is a great
disservice to parents of America.  Children have already become part of the
"entitled" ones and demand more and more from their parents and others.
Parents love their children, and want their children to be happy, and so
wind up doing dumb things for them.  One of them is letting the kids have
"the car keys early";  too early and without them understanding the heavy
responsibilities of driving.   It is driving that makes the teen years up to
about 25 the *most* dangerous years of a person's life.

 

And people wonder how America got into its current economic mess.  Look at
how many parents cave in to their kid who want their folks to *buy* them a
new car.   So, the parents, to make their children happy and appear good to
their peers, go out and buy a car with *their* money;  money they cannot
afford to spend on such nonsense.   What ever happened to the idea that kids
worked hard to earn their own money to buy a car?   It worked for me, and I
suspect it worked for most in this group who worked for their first car.
But, we are not of this generation.

 

Buster

From cclabaw at juno.com  Fri Jun 20 11:16:05 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:16:05 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Front disk brake wire wheel question
Message-ID: <20080620.101605.5855.3@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Or no front wheels!

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like the splines are shot! Check it carefully before driving it...
You may end up with no brakes on the front if the splines don't hold.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Rick Sorak <htpc2 at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> Pertaining to a '65 Midget w/ wire wheels
>
> Question, got out the Haynes manual but it was no help.... I noticed when I
> had the front end jacked up the other day that I the front wheel could
> rotate a small distance w/o the brake disk moving....
>
> What is the source of the play between the disk and the wire wheel
> splines....What do I need to do to eliminate this play?
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 11:20:55 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:20:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
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Well Buster, I'm not as old as you are. Hell, not many on this list are
either......
Anyway, my first car, a 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible, my parents bought.
BUT, I had to pay back all $300 over the summer, working various odd jobs.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner:  "I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug
> their
> parents for the car keys early."
>
>
>
> And now, a contrary opinion that many are afraid to voice.
>
>
>
> Sorry, but some of us believe that type of encouragement is a great
> disservice to parents of America.  Children have already become part of the
> "entitled" ones and demand more and more from their parents and others.
> Parents love their children, and want their children to be happy, and so
> wind up doing dumb things for them.  One of them is letting the kids have
> "the car keys early";  too early and without them understanding the heavy
> responsibilities of driving.   It is driving that makes the teen years up
> to
> about 25 the *most* dangerous years of a person's life.
>
>
>
> And people wonder how America got into its current economic mess.  Look at
> how many parents cave in to their kid who want their folks to *buy* them a
> new car.   So, the parents, to make their children happy and appear good to
> their peers, go out and buy a car with *their* money;  money they cannot
> afford to spend on such nonsense.   What ever happened to the idea that
> kids
> worked hard to earn their own money to buy a car?   It worked for me, and I
> suspect it worked for most in this group who worked for their first car.
> But, we are not of this generation.
>
>
>
> Buster
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 20 11:25:22 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:25:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com><E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<e98d88090806201020p637f8295t17958be4c702a186@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ec01c8d2fa$9f1f3a60$6401a8c0@Larry>

Brad -- $300 for a Chevelle SS396 Convertible?  Are you kidding me?

Gee, if you still have it, I'll give you 10 times that much for it. ;-))

Or you can take it to Barrett-Jackson and get $300,000.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars


Well Buster, I'm not as old as you are. Hell, not many on this list are
either......
Anyway, my first car, a 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible, my parents bought.
BUT, I had to pay back all $300 over the summer, working various odd jobs.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner:  "I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug
> their
> parents for the car keys early."
>
>
>
> And now, a contrary opinion that many are afraid to voice.
>
>
>
> Sorry, but some of us believe that type of encouragement is a great
> disservice to parents of America.  Children have already become part of 
> the
> "entitled" ones and demand more and more from their parents and others.
> Parents love their children, and want their children to be happy, and so
> wind up doing dumb things for them.  One of them is letting the kids have
> "the car keys early";  too early and without them understanding the heavy
> responsibilities of driving.   It is driving that makes the teen years up
> to
> about 25 the *most* dangerous years of a person's life.
>
>
>
> And people wonder how America got into its current economic mess.  Look at
> how many parents cave in to their kid who want their folks to *buy* them a
> new car.   So, the parents, to make their children happy and appear good 
> to
> their peers, go out and buy a car with *their* money;  money they cannot
> afford to spend on such nonsense.   What ever happened to the idea that
> kids
> worked hard to earn their own money to buy a car?   It worked for me, and 
> I
> suspect it worked for most in this group who worked for their first car.
> But, we are not of this generation.
>
>
>
> Buster
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Fri Jun 20 11:39:03 2008
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:39:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
In-Reply-To: <mailman.16494.1213982436.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.16494.1213982436.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <66758D55-552C-4234-8A9D-6E74FB642F32@gerardsgarage.com>

I can't say for certain, but by the description and the damage I see  
on the radiator, this sounds like the same car I saw at last summer's  
Pittsburgh Grand Prix. It was for sale for 5K then.

Gerard

On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:20 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:30:50 -0400
> From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID:
> 	<205cef430806200330t2679c1f4p27aa63d69489016 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> List,
> I just got this from Anita in WA (she too has a pristine MKII in  
> deep pink).
> We both laughed that he called it salmon and the funny thing is my  
> po listed
> my pink Sprite salmon too. Come on guys is it a guy thing to call  
> your pink
> car salmon .......hehehehe. If he gets anywhere near 14K for his  
> MKII I'll
> eat my salmon car : )
> I sent him a message for pictures as I am trying to set up a  
> database of all
> existing deep pink Sprites to send to Terry Horler.
> Enjoy
>
> http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky......er....... Sally Salmon?"
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 20 11:51:02 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:51:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
In-Reply-To: <66758D55-552C-4234-8A9D-6E74FB642F32@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40044506D45E5D840ACBE5B8A50@phx.gbl>

There's more wiggle room added.  ;)

----Original Message Follows----
I can't say for certain, but by the description and the damage I see
on the radiator, this sounds like the same car I saw at last summer's
Pittsburgh Grand Prix. It was for sale for 5K then.

Gerard

 > From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
 > List,
 > I just got this from Anita in WA (she too has a pristine MKII in
 > deep pink).
 > We both laughed that he called it salmon and the funny thing is my
 > po listed
 > my pink Sprite salmon too. Come on guys is it a guy thing to call
 > your pink
 > car salmon .......hehehehe. If he gets anywhere near 14K for his
 > MKII I'll
 > eat my salmon car : )
 > I sent him a message for pictures as I am trying to set up a
 > database of all
 > existing deep pink Sprites to send to Terry Horler.
 > Enjoy
 >
 > http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
 >
 > 62 California Sprite "Pinky......er....... Sally Salmon?"

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 20 11:57:36 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:57:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Front disk brake wire wheel question
In-Reply-To: <20080620.101605.5855.3@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3521AB77319E1F8CDE63A4B8A50@phx.gbl>

There's a line drawing visual here:
http://www.britishwirewheel.com/faq.htm


----Original Message Follows----

Or no front wheels!

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like the splines are shot! Check it carefully before driving it...
You may end up with no brakes on the front if the splines don't hold.

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Rick Sorak <htpc2 at comcast.net> wrote:

 >
 > Pertaining to a '65 Midget w/ wire wheels
 >
 > Question, got out the Haynes manual but it was no help.... I noticed when 
I
 > had the front end jacked up the other day that I the front wheel could
 > rotate a small distance w/o the brake disk moving....
 >
 > What is the source of the play between the disk and the wire wheel
 > splines....What do I need to do to eliminate this play?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 12:45:04 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:45:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806201020p637f8295t17958be4c702a186@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9lba-0001Ag-Mj@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Brad wrote:   "Anyway, my first car, a 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible, my
parents bought. BUT, I had to pay back all $300 over the summer."

 

Yep!  Been there, done that.   When I wanted to buy the Sprite, I wasn't
making enough money by defending the women and children of Free America from
the Evils of Communism.   So, I borrowed over $1,000 of the $1,795 selling
price from my folks.   They charged me *6% interest*, more than they could
get in interest from a savings account, but less than I would pay if I had
even been able to finance the purchase.   They gave me a payment book in
which Mom computed the payments AND delinquent payment charges.   When our
teenagers came to the point they wanted a car, they had to save 25% of the
cost, and we lent them the rest at 6% interest.  Complete with payment book.
The kid across the street, who was born the same day and in the same
hospital as our twins, was given a brand new 280Z.   Of course he didn't
come by to see his parents for 10 years after getting out of school.   We
kinda think that 6% interest charge we put on our loan to the kids was our
best investment ever! 

 

Incidentally, is there any question on the original selling price of the
Sprite.   I once saw a web page that said, "The original selling price was
approximately $41,820." (http://tinyurl.com/62p9hh)  Duh!   Sorry, but the
receipt says $1,795, plus 3% sales tax.

 

Don't you wish you still had that Chevelle?   Dreams.

 

Dirt

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 20 13:01:12 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:01:12 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1K9lba-0001Ag-Mj@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F35184176AB7CF4C6C1041CB8A50@phx.gbl>

>>"The original selling price was approximately $41,820."

Actually it says "41,820", not "$41,820".  Maybe that 4 is supposed to be a 
dollar sign?



----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "'Brad Fornal'" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, "'Spridgets 
List'"<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:45:04 -0700

Brad wrote:   "Anyway, my first car, a 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible, my
parents bought. BUT, I had to pay back all $300 over the summer."



Yep!  Been there, done that.   When I wanted to buy the Sprite, I wasn't
making enough money by defending the women and children of Free America from
the Evils of Communism.   So, I borrowed over $1,000 of the $1,795 selling
price from my folks.   They charged me *6% interest*, more than they could
get in interest from a savings account, but less than I would pay if I had
even been able to finance the purchase.   They gave me a payment book in
which Mom computed the payments AND delinquent payment charges.   When our
teenagers came to the point they wanted a car, they had to save 25% of the
cost, and we lent them the rest at 6% interest.  Complete with payment book.
The kid across the street, who was born the same day and in the same
hospital as our twins, was given a brand new 280Z.   Of course he didn't
come by to see his parents for 10 years after getting out of school.   We
kinda think that 6% interest charge we put on our loan to the kids was our
best investment ever!



Incidentally, is there any question on the original selling price of the
Sprite.   I once saw a web page that said, "The original selling price was
approximately $41,820." (http://tinyurl.com/62p9hh)  Duh!   Sorry, but the
receipt says $1,795, plus 3% sales tax.



Don't you wish you still had that Chevelle?   Dreams.



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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 20 13:05:39 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:05:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <E1K9lba-0001Ag-Mj@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002001c8d308$a1fb9e00$01fea8c0@C600>

I have to agree.  My mother told both my brother and I that, if we wanted to
buy a car, we would need to pay for it ourselves.  I saved enough to buy my
first car by driving truck on the ranch the summer I was 15.  Mother decreed
that I would not drive it off the ranch until I had paid, in advance, a full
year of full coverage insurance.  I was angry at the time, but in retrospect
I can see that it instilled a sense of responsibility and prevented me from
driving like an idiot, at least most of the time.

During the years since, my brother and I have both bought and financed new
cars, but we now buy good used cars and pay cash for them.  Surprisingly, we
have fewer problems with them than do our friends who are making
astronomical car payments for the newest car on the block.

Kate

PS:  Does anyone know of a nice Jeep Comanche for sale?  Is anyone
interested in a good running, go anywhere, pull anything F-350 crew cab?



  We
> kinda think that 6% interest charge we put on our loan to the kids was our
> best investment ever!

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jun 20 13:06:20 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:06:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <20080620.130620.20344.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

I'm not sure how old YOU all are, but my first car WAS given to me (a 1959
Volvo 122S -one of about three in the country it turned out). Complete with
engine and tranny in boxes in the trunk, and about 100 lbs of chicken S**t in
the interior. I had to learn how to do everything from rebuilding the
hydraulics to reassembling the tranny. My girls (14 and 11) help me change
tires, pull engines, cut trees, split wood, pull wires when we built and wired
the house, etc.
The suburbanites who give in to every whim of their kids in order that they
'keep up with Judy' are simply perpetuating the 60's 'keeping up with the
Joneses' that they grew up with. My thoughts are: Buck the trend, when our
economy crashes, those with the ability to do for themselves will be in much
better shape than those who need to hire outside help to change a light bulb.
Give your kids a car they have to work on, and you give a kid a chance to stay
out of trouble- after all, they'll have to pay for gas AND insurance!-plus
they'll find out how much an oil change, etc. is worth in work as well.
I have no problem getting kids involved in cars early, they just need to have
the appropriate attitudes shown by the parents- you get what you work for and
no more. JMHO, RANT MODE OFF.

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779

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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 13:14:52 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F35184176AB7CF4C6C1041CB8A50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <224707.42810.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

$1848.85 vs $1820 - 
   
  Buster they hosed you for $28.85..........lol

  Vigil
  
Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
  >>"The original selling price was approximately $41,820."

Actually it says "41,820", not "$41,820". Maybe that 4 is supposed to be a 
dollar sign?



----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" 
To: "'Brad Fornal'" , "'Spridgets 
List'"
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:45:04 -0700

Brad wrote: "Anyway, my first car, a 68 Chevelle SS396 convertible, my
parents bought. BUT, I had to pay back all $300 over the summer."



Yep! Been there, done that. When I wanted to buy the Sprite, I wasn't
making enough money by defending the women and children of Free America from
the Evils of Communism. So, I borrowed over $1,000 of the $1,795 selling
price from my folks. They charged me *6% interest*, more than they could
get in interest from a savings account, but less than I would pay if I had
even been able to finance the purchase. They gave me a payment book in
which Mom computed the payments AND delinquent payment charges. When our
teenagers came to the point they wanted a car, they had to save 25% of the
cost, and we lent them the rest at 6% interest. Complete with payment book.
The kid across the street, who was born the same day and in the same
hospital as our twins, was given a brand new 280Z. Of course he didn't
come by to see his parents for 10 years after getting out of school. We
kinda think that 6% interest charge we put on our loan to the kids was our
best investment ever!



Incidentally, is there any question on the original selling price of the
Sprite. I once saw a web page that said, "The original selling price was
approximately $41,820." (http://tinyurl.com/62p9hh) Duh! Sorry, but the
receipt says $1,795, plus 3% sales tax.



Don't you wish you still had that Chevelle? Dreams.



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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Jun 20 13:21:55 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <20080620.130620.20344.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <003501c8d30a$e73987a0$01fea8c0@C600>

And when your girls grow up, they will probably be responsible citizens with
a strong work ethic, rather than a part of the gimmee generation.  I have
two grand daughters the same age as your girls who are being raised the same
way.  More power to parents who are not afraid to be parents.  Tell your
daughters that this old lady said they need to thank you for caring enough
to raise them right.

Kate

Kate


> I have no problem getting kids involved in cars early, they just need to
have
> the appropriate attitudes shown by the parents- you get what you work for
and
> no more.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 20 15:16:43 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:16:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <E1K9aru-0007je-Vk@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <00aa01c8d31a$f10d99f0$6501a8c0@shop>

<<But don't get me wrong.  I am one of those who favor the drawing and
quartering PETA nutters.>>

Nail on the head, Buster !!!  <VBG>

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 14:44:27 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:44:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10806201344s107be4afpc1b566f01ddd06a0@mail.gmail.com>

Here's how my folks handled the 'car' issue....

Not until my Senior year... and not unless I maintained a 3.5gpa.

Then and only then, if I had the money to buy and insure a car.

Dad worked two jobs, usually six-days a week.  Mom raised us four kids.

Being the oldest, I did all the yard work, took care of plowing the garden
(200x200'), feeding the stock...as well as milking before and after school.

We cut wood Spring thru Fall; burned 11 cords a year in our old 1800's farm
house.  Fireplace only, no insulation.

Got punished...usually with a belt...almost on a daily basis.  Very strict
Dad.  Could never ask him 'why' are question what I was told to do.  "Yes
Sir" and off I went....

Looking back, life was 'typical' country life.  And I don't remember it as
being bad!

But then I'm almost 61 and don't remember things very well!

Other's stories???

Herb




On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:15 AM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Linda Grunthaner:  "I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug
> their
> parents for the car keys early."
>
>
>
> And now, a contrary opinion that many are afraid to voice.
>
>
>
> Sorry, but some of us believe that type of encouragement is a great
> disservice to parents of America.  Children have already become part of the
> "entitled" ones and demand more and more from their parents and others.
> Parents love their children, and want their children to be happy, and so
> wind up doing dumb things for them.  One of them is letting the kids have
> "the car keys early";  too early and without them understanding the heavy
> responsibilities of driving.   It is driving that makes the teen years up
> to
> about 25 the *most* dangerous years of a person's life.
>
>
>
> And people wonder how America got into its current economic mess.  Look at
> how many parents cave in to their kid who want their folks to *buy* them a
> new car.   So, the parents, to make their children happy and appear good to
> their peers, go out and buy a car with *their* money;  money they cannot
> afford to spend on such nonsense.   What ever happened to the idea that
> kids
> worked hard to earn their own money to buy a car?   It worked for me, and I
> suspect it worked for most in this group who worked for their first car.
> But, we are not of this generation.
>
>
>
> Buster
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From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:07:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080620085938.03c19de8@nosimport.com>
References: <854137.44846.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<004f01c8d2a6$52fa0420$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080620085938.03c19de8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806201407m27852e0aha107b31ccb5efa1b@mail.gmail.com>

Dean,

There is some encrypted javascript at the bottom of the source for their
home page that uses an "iframe".  It _appears_ (I'm not an expert so what do
I know!) that it's intent was to display a counter - possibly to show how
many times the site has been visited.

I did not get any alerts but we block a lot of "bad stuff" (that's a
technical term) here at work.

It's quite possible some virus scanners may detect this as a legitimate
problem but it could just as easily be a "false positive".

The two pieces of enrypted javascript both try accessing a PHP file on a
different web address:
81.29.241.70/new/counter.php

The address 81.29.241.70 does not respond for me; it could have been taken
down, simply be offline at the moment, or it could be "blacklisted"
(blocked).  I've not taken the time to try to find out who 81.29.241.70 is,
or if it's related to the resleeve.com website (which is at 66.96.132.4).



On 6/20/08, Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
>
> Dean,
>         I too went to the link you posted. All was fine. But then I
> went to the 'HOME" link and got the same virus alert.I did not go
> farther. I don't know how real the alert is/was, but that is what
> happened to me as well.
>
>         Peter C.

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 15:09:06 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:09:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] @#$%^%^#&^
In-Reply-To: <00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
References: <E1K94ii-0001yP-0I@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00d801c8d199$1ea4afd0$6801a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806201409y3f0c1070l8983ddabdb0c0470@mail.gmail.com>

Ed,

The Quincy area is fine so long as you don't try getting on to the bottom
roads North of Quincy to Warsaw.

Quincy, IL and Hannibal, MO bridges are open, Louisiana, MO is closed.


On 6/18/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
> <<Iowa?  Bad decision.>>
>
> And the way it is sounding, the thru Quincy/Pittsfield, IL route IS quite
> "iffy" as of now folks!!!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 20 15:22:17 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:22:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<E1K9kCV-0003YQ-Tq@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5129720.20080620142217@pacifier.com>

Hello B-,

     my dad told us kids we could have a car when we couild afford to
     buy one AND pay for the insurance gas and upkeep. .. i didn't get
     one until after my first year of college, when i had to have one
     for transportation to and from work. $50....

     BUT my older brother...

     a friend of his was willing to sell him one for $15! It had been
     in his family since new, he had driven it and now was ready to
     get a replacement. When asked if he could get it Dad blew his
     stack saying NO NO NO.. but my brother reminded him he had said
     he could have a car if he could afford to pay for it. and he
     COULD.. Dad eventually relented.........

     Fast forward.... my friends would ask me .. When you gonna get a
     car for you kids?... When they can afford to pay for it, was my
     reply. And that's when they got them.. .. i help if the cars need
     a major repair, but the cars are their responsibility......

     my daughter would up with a 1988 Toyota MR2, and my son with a
     1985 Honda CRX-HF. .... which was rated at 41 city/50 highway
     mpg!... he GETS over 40 on the freeway!... not bad for ANY car,
     let alone one over 20 year old.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * "This is a sick bird," said Tom illegally.

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Jun 20 15:50:30 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:50:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Floor pan "oil canning' question
Message-ID: <485BC3B6.12281.174E0E8@dmg.bossig.com>

The floor pan between the cross member and the firewall "oil cans" as I get 
in and out.  Also on the passenger side.
I only have rubber mats at the moment.
Would using that 'glue in' heat resistant foil padding reduce this effect??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 20 15:51:40 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:51:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <d44.28c20b72.358d806c@aol.com>

I've told my girls that if they want a classic car I might buy it for them  
and help them maintain it.  On the other hand if they want a modern they  can 
pay for everything themselves.
 
However, one thing I have decided is that they will pay for all of their  own 
driving lessons themselves.  
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 20/06/2008 18:21:15 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

my first  car

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 20 16:00:51 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:00:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <bc0.3502143c.358d8293@aol.com>

My Dad let me drive stuff long before I had a licence.  When I scraped  the
firm's van on a metal gate post he was only cross that I hadn't realised or
told him and therefore he hadn't had chance to wipe some mud on it before
taking
 it back to work.

When I was about 7-8 or something like that, I helped him remove the  gearbox
from the family's Morris Minor Travellor.  He had a friend help him  put the
s/h replacement into the car.

I borrowed a lot of money for my first car which I managed to barrell roll
into a farmer's field.  I walked away with a wrecked car that I swapped for  a
#150 racing bike and a bank loan for about one thousand three hundred  pounds.
 I managed to buy my next car for about three hundred pounds which  I ran for
a year, did a lot of work too and sold for the same money a year  later.

Then I bought my Sprite in 1984 which I've had ever since.

W E S L A K E 1330

In a message dated 20/06/2008 21:45:02 GMT Daylight Time,  froggi60 at gmail.com
writes:

Other's  stories

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 17:31:13 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:31:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <d44.28c20b72.358d806c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <970932.4740.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> However, one thing I have decided is that they will pay for
> all of their  own 
> driving lessons themselves.  

Not me. Mine are both going to Skip Barber's street class on me. They don't get keys until they do, period.

http://www.skipbarber.com/driving_school/mazda/new_driver.aspx

By all accounts, there is no better way to prepare them for what's out there. 

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 17:35:30 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:35:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10806201344s107be4afpc1b566f01ddd06a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <568644.37252.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not until my Senior year... and not unless I maintained a
> 3.5gpa.

I was "allowed" to buy a car (my money except for sales tax) after I got a decent paying job in college that used my education that was far enough that walking wasn't an option. Using the education was key to any privilege in my house. No insult intended, but if I came home with a 3.5 GPA, I'd have been thrown out of the house.

Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Jun 20 17:51:31 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:51:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front disk brake wire wheel question
References: <20080620.101605.5855.3@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <C4E9D3FB95FB43129A15DA2A7A165532@midget>

>> Sounds like the splines are shot! Check it carefully before driving it...
>> You may end up with no brakes on the front if the splines don't hold.

> Or no front wheels!

No. Actually, if the splines failed, the wheels would not fall off, but the 
brakes would be ineffectual, since they consider it their job to cause the 
rotor to cease rotation and don't worry about whether the wheels actually 
stopped.
David Lieb 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 18:24:30 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:24:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>

Well, its been an eventful day which ended like a bucket of water being
poured over me.  I got the lump back into the Midget today and carefully
double checked everything - or so I thought. Added fluids, checked points
gap, connected up the battery and turned the key.  Fuel pump kicks in - I
give it a little while to get fuel up through the lines again and then
turned it to starter.  Kind of a clicking clunk sound and the starter
doesn't turn.  WTF now??!!   I double checked all the connections from the
battery to the starter and tried it again. Same sound and no starter.  We
have to pack up and leave day after tomorrow for LotO and I still have a few
things left to do for the event.  RIght now I am so depressed I just want to
scream.  It it is a bad ignition switch there's no time left to get one and
install it.  Tomorrow I'll go through all the connections again.  I'm just
sick.

Jim - Dead "Spridget" in Dodge City

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 18:29:36 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:29:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <bc0.3502143c.358d8293@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9qyz-0003Iw-Jn@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

W E S L A K E 1330 wrote:  "When I scraped the firm's van on a metal gate
post he was only cross that I hadn't realised or told him and therefore he
hadn't had chance to wipe some mud on it before taking it back to work."

 

No comment.

From duncan at pondhop.com  Fri Jun 20 18:32:48 2008
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:32:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAH8mWJyINfhLnbNT64Y68kIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

Sure your battery is not just run down Jim ?

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 19:25
To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...

Well, its been an eventful day which ended like a bucket of water being
poured over me.  I got the lump back into the Midget today and carefully
double checked everything - or so I thought. Added fluids, checked points
gap, connected up the battery and turned the key.  Fuel pump kicks in - I
give it a little while to get fuel up through the lines again and then
turned it to starter.  Kind of a clicking clunk sound and the starter
doesn't turn.  WTF now??!!   I double checked all the connections from the
battery to the starter and tried it again. Same sound and no starter.  We
have to pack up and leave day after tomorrow for LotO and I still have a few
things left to do for the event.  RIght now I am so depressed I just want to
scream.  It it is a bad ignition switch there's no time left to get one and
install it.  Tomorrow I'll go through all the connections again.  I'm just
sick.

Jim - Dead "Spridget" in Dodge City
You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 20 18:33:32 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:33:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <970932.4740.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <018e01c8d336$6f5bc8c0$6401a8c0@Larry>

I'm with Ron on this one.  I don't have any kids, but, if I did, the most 
important thing that I think I could give them is to learn how to drive 
before letting them out there.  I don't know what it is like today, but in 
my day, nearly 40 years ago, driver's ed was a complete joke.

One of my best friends who is a professor/author/lecturer type of egghead 
who doesn't know a spark plug from a radiator cap, after talking for hours 
on end with me, decided his two boys had to graduate from Skippy's street 
course.  He bought them cars and paid for their education, but that 
education was the best thing he could have done for them.

By the way, his kids are as ignorant about cars as he was, but at least they 
now know how to drive them.  They are also two of the most responsible, 
decent kids any parent could hope for.  They just aren't car guys.  So what. 
At least they aren't the juvenile delinquent kid that used to delight in 
getting the cops to chase them like I was.  Thank God they never caught me. 
What an idiot I was.


LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars


--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> However, one thing I have decided is that they will pay for
> all of their  own
> driving lessons themselves.

Not me. Mine are both going to Skip Barber's street class on me. They don't 
get keys until they do, period.

http://www.skipbarber.com/driving_school/mazda/new_driver.aspx

By all accounts, there is no better way to prepare them for what's out 
there.

Ron
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 18:34:29 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:34:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <970932.4740.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9r3i-0007Tg-0p@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ron Soave wrote:  " Mine are both going to Skip Barber's street class on me.
They don't get keys until they do, period.... there is no better way to
prepare them for what's out there"

 

And a wise investment in THEIR lives.   And the care *you* receive in your
silver-haired golden years!

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 18:38:37 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:38:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <568644.37252.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9r7i-0005qu-TC@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ron Soave wrote:  "Using the education was key to any privilege in my house"

 

And I'll bet you thanked your Dad until the day he died, and your Mother
still!!!!   It is hard to understand parents today who really don't care
about the education of their children.   Perhaps it was because both Pam and
I were involved in education that we have both seen the tragic consequences
when parents don't love their children enough to care about their education.

 

Buster

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 18:46:40 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:46:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1K9r7i-0005qu-TC@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <284402.31900.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> And I'll bet you thanked your Dad until the day he
> died, and your Mother
> still!!!!

Well, I suppose, but I really preferred partying....

Ron

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 18:48:11 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:48:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Consternation...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9rGx-00072H-UH@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "WTF now??!!"

 

EASY answer.   Tow it to Lake of the Ozarks.   If the collective minds of
the world's greatest assemblage of Spridget masters present there cannot do
a quick Johnson Jive Jump on your unfaithful servant, you might just as well
leave in some deserted Missouri field.

 

Buster

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 18:50:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <404608.87181.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just
> sick.

Jim, 

Bring it to LotO, it'll get fixed. I'M sick - wish I could be there. I'll be out of the country all week starting tomorrow night with limited internet, but will try to check for updates. You did a great job pulling this together - all the best to you guys.

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 20 18:51:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806201724y476f6390s4b703b5aec6b29c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009001c8d338$fb83b040$5e03f204@spider>

Mine is a 1979. I have an aftermarket, NAPA, starter switch mounted in mine.

It is bolted down to the lip above the starter by only one mounting, and
does not look cool, but it works.
Isn't it possible to jump past the battery wires at the switch to start?
...bill in oregon
============================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 5:25 PM
To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...

Well, its been an eventful day which ended like a bucket of water being
poured over me.  I got the lump back into the Midget today and carefully
double checked everything - or so I thought. Added fluids, checked points
gap, connected up the battery and turned the key.  Fuel pump kicks in - I
give it a little while to get fuel up through the lines again and then
turned it to starter.  Kind of a clicking clunk sound and the starter
doesn't turn.  WTF now??!!   I double checked all the connections from the
battery to the starter and tried it again. Same sound and no starter.  We
have to pack up and leave day after tomorrow for LotO and I still have a few
things left to do for the event.  RIght now I am so depressed I just want to
scream.  It it is a bad ignition switch there's no time left to get one and
install it.  Tomorrow I'll go through all the connections again.  I'm just
sick.

Jim - Dead "Spridget" in Dodge City
_______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 20 18:52:11 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:52:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAH8mWJyINfhLnbNT64Y68kIBAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9rKq-0001yI-6p@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Duncan wrote:   "Sure your battery is not just run down Jim ?"

 

Let us all hope and pray that it isn't.   After all he has been through, if
it turned out that simple, there would have a suicide with slashed and
bloody wrists in Dodge City.

 

Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 19:25:55 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:25:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
References: <854137.44846.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<004f01c8d2a6$52fa0420$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080620085938.03c19de8@nosimport.com>
	<8de85a9c0806201407m27852e0aha107b31ccb5efa1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004a01c8d33d$c0bfa4f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

In which case I apologize to Virgil for any miss-communication we may have 
had.

FWIW,  I did contact the outfit and did get a quote,  they were very 
responsive
and called me back this morning.

While I had him on the phone I asked him about the pros and cons of
brass vs. stainless steel.

The end result is that I am going with stainless, for most of the reasons I 
had suspected
and for several other reasons that I had not anticipated..


-- 
From: Jethro
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless


Dean,

There is some encrypted javascript at the bottom of the source for their 
home page that uses an "iframe".  It _appears_ (I'm not an expert so what do 
I know!) that it's intent was to display a counter - possibly to show how 
many times the site has been visited.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun 20 19:32:44 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:32:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <224707.42810.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <224707.42810.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <485C5A3C.9090906@comcast.net>

uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> $1848.85 vs $1820 - 
>    
>   Buster they hosed you for $28.85..........lol
>
>   
Optional tonneau cover.
The tonneau on my new 73 Spitfire was $29.95 but the radio was $65!


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 20 19:42:27 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...
References: <404608.87181.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <01b601c8d340$1091afd0$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Consternation...


--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm just
> sick.

Jim,

Bring it to LotO, it'll get fixed. I'M sick - wish I could be there. I'll be 
out of the country all week starting tomorrow night with limited internet, 
but will try to check for updates. You did a great job pulling this 
together - all the best to you guys.

Ron
_______________________________________________

Amen.

>From all of us who wish we could make it, but can't, have a great time. 
Hold Jim Johnson responsible if the weather turns to crap, but thank him for 
all he and his helpers put into this thing to make it work.

LAD 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 20 22:23:32 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:23:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <485C5A3C.9090906@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <149915.29659.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
   
  It could of been that fancy locking gas cap - Did Buster ever find the key - lol
   
  I just bought a boot cover for the Morris top when it is down. 58 pounds plus shipping.
  Ruff estimate $125 - Probably a $25 item in the 60's. kind of sick when you compare prices. 
   
  Vigil

Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
  uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> $1848.85 vs $1820 - 
> 
> Buster they hosed you for $28.85..........lol
>
> 
Optional tonneau cover.
The tonneau on my new 73 Spitfire was $29.95 but the radio was $65!


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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Jun 20 22:25:33 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless
In-Reply-To: <20080620062248.7803F187654@autox.team.net>
References: <001401c8d297$0ef856f0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
	<20080620062248.7803F187654@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <000901c8d356$d907bbb0$8b173310$@net>

LOL... YEA OR LETS DISCUSS Barack Obama...<ducking for cover>

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Ramsey
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 1:23 AM
To: 'Dean Hedin'
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless

I don't care what you want to do, have one made from gold for all I care.
Most of the people just tried to tell you that there was a master that works
and will last a long time. Stainless is just harder to work with that's all.
I would think that would mean it cost more.  Since you want to do it and
know a place that will do it, go for it and in 50 years you can post "see I
told you so" and twenty people will post but my brass one is still working
too.  I really don't think posting "Don't go to this site" will cost them
any business as you are the only one so far that is going stainless.  They
are using 304 you might ask why not 316? Now if he will make one in 3/4"
from a 7/8" out of 316 with new pistons for the same cost let me know I
might just try one.  Replace your LMA once a year and I bet either one will
last longer than you will. Can we go back to tapered cone bearings with or
with out the spacer now???? 
		Crash 

Fine then,  Tell me all about this virus you got from the site.
I went there, I didn't get infected by anything.
Ed posted that he went there and he did'nt get anything...

Tell me what the problem is and we can email the owner of the website
so they can fix it.

I mean, that is a better course is'nt it?  Instead of broadcasting on the 
email list
"DONT GO TO THIS SITE".  By doing that you could be potentially hurting
his business, Right?

After all, the guy is just trying to earn an honest buck running a 
re-sleeving
service.   If his website has been taken over by hackers then he should know
about it.  Right?

Do you want to email him or should I?
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From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jun 20 23:14:25 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:14:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
References: <007101c8d1fa$425a6a30$0b01a8c0@MAIN>
	<00e501c8d27c$a374fd30$6600a8c0@dave>
	<e98d88090806191931v2217d69ek70a7f838792fb41e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c8d35d$ac92cbe0$6600a8c0@dave>

If you want to use the 1098 slave, you have to get a different hose.

This will probably seem silly, but, try removing the carpet and floor mat on 
the drivers side.  You will pick up another 1/8 of pedal travel.  On one 
car, I had to grind off part of the back of the clutch pedal where it hit 
the floor to gain more travel.

Super frustrating.  Been there many times.

Is the pushrod into the new master cylinder the same length as the one that 
came out?  If it is shorter, the clutch pedal will be closer to the floor 
than it was.


David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brad Fornal
To: David Riker
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs. 
Brass

THIS WON'T WORK, AS THE LINE COMING INTO THE 1098 IS SMALLER THAN THE 1275 
FLEX LINE 

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 21 01:09:15 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:09:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
Message-ID: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Went on a shake down cruise today in 107 degree weather from San
Bernardino to Fallbrook, California at Bob Kitterer's house.  I figured it
would be a true test.  I don't know who got the worst punishment, the car
or me.  Took a day off of work to work on the brakes before the LotO road
trip.  One thing it taught me is that I will be damn glad to have the
Bugeye on the trailer behind my air conditioned truck on the way out
there.  The Bugeye does NOT like hot weather.  Under a load, it backfires
through the carb over 4000 RPM.  It puked oil out the crankcase vent
drilled into the side of the block and steamed out almost a gallon and a
half of water from the radiator just before it got to Bob's house.  It
also pings under acceleration all the time.  We let it sit for a couple
hours so the car and myself and my son Justin (he will be at LotO too)
could cool down first.  I think Justin and I drank as much water as the
car did to cool down.  After a call to David Anton at APT, we swapped out
the plugs that were BP6ES to BP7ES.  David says the copper core are the
best for our cars. He also said it sounds like the car is running lean and
needs higher octane fuel, not to mention an aluminum radiator from Tom
Colby.  Well, I may be able to drop some 107 Octane Booster in the tank
before I leave, I don't think the aluminum radiator is in the cards.  We
timed the engine to 30 degrees with the adjustable timing light after
changing the spark plugs.  It runs smoother, but it still pings.  I need a
different needle in the HIF44 carb and some octane booster.  What's the
temps supposed to be like in the Ozarks next week?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
P.S. Bob says hi to you all and wishes he could be there next week.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 21 01:37:58 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:37:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <149915.29659.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1K9xfX-0008C6-0j@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Vigil wrote:    "Probably a $25 item in the 60's. kind of sick when you
compare prices

 

Yeah, but how much did you make an hour in 1960's?   Would you be content to
make the same wage today?   It is called inflation (like 18% under Carter).

 

I still have a 1961 parts house catalog for English and European cars.
Amazing the changes.  A Lucas starter was $37, a complete Borg & Beck clutch
$36.   Of course, at the time I was making $225 a month, so it all washes
out.

 

Buster

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 02:26:35 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:26:35 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <d2d.2ef1817b.358e153b@aol.com>

Over here you have to take an extensive govt test before you can  drive.  
Apparently it's one of the world's strictest.  
 
After they have a licence to drive THEN I can teach them how to drive and  
may well send them on a diverse selection of performance driving training.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
 
In a message dated 21/06/2008 00:31:33 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com  
writes:

Not me.  Mine are both going to Skip Barber's street class on me. They don't 
get keys  until they do,  period.

http://www.skipbarber.com/driving_school/mazda/new_driver.aspx

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 02:30:25 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:30:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <cad.34a0f40b.358e1621@aol.com>

I am too.  Getting a driving licence in the UK requires a lot of  lessons 
before you can pass the test.  However, it doesn't really mean you  can drive 
once you've passed th test it just means you have a licence to  drive.  For 
example no part of the test will be taken on a 3 lane motorway  and there is no 
instruction on how to join, leave or drive on a 3 line  motorway.
 
See my other post.
 
 

In a message dated 21/06/2008 01:34:48 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

I'm with  Ron on this one.  I don't have any kids, but, if I did, the most  
important thing that I think I could give them is to learn how to drive  
before letting them out there. 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 02:36:48 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:36:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
Message-ID: <c4b.2e577062.358e17a0@aol.com>

Ok List,
 
Ignoring the merits or otherwise of stainless steel tubing V cupronickle  
what is the view on the bore of the rigid clutch line?  Why did the factory  use 
larger bore rigid hydraulic line on the clutch than on the brake line?   What 
difference, if any, will it make if I use the same bore pipe on the clutch  as 
on the brake lines?  I do have brass fittings and line to make up either  
option.
 
W E S L A K E 1330

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat Jun 21 05:05:58 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:05:58 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE:  Consternation...
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV10E80B011D034FD7F07A77D4A40@phx.gbl>

New/overhauled motor, Jim?

CapBob


-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Sinclair
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 8:32 PM
To: 'Jim Johnson', 'Spridget List', 'Yahoo Spridget list'
Subject: [midgetsprite] RE: [Spridgets] Consternation...

Sure your battery is not just run down Jim ?

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 19:25
To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Consternation...

Well, its been an eventful day which ended like a bucket of water being
poured over me.  I got the lump back into the Midget today and carefully
double checked everything - or so I thought. Added fluids, checked points
gap, connected up the battery and turned the key.  Fuel pump kicks in - I
give it a little while to get fuel up through the lines again and then
turned it to starter.  Kind of a clicking clunk sound and the starter
doesn't turn.  WTF now??!!   I double checked all the connections from the
battery to the starter and tried it again. Same sound and no starter.  We
have to pack up and leave day after tomorrow for LotO and I still have a few
things left to do for the event.  RIght now I am so depressed I just want to
scream.  It it is a bad ignition switch there's no time left to get one and
install it.  Tomorrow I'll go through all the connections again.  I'm just
sick.

Jim - Dead "Spridget" in Dodge City
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 06:48:47 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 08:48:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
In-Reply-To: <66758D55-552C-4234-8A9D-6E74FB642F32@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.16494.1213982436.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<66758D55-552C-4234-8A9D-6E74FB642F32@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806210548u425912d5p2037e120ee52b271@mail.gmail.com>

Very interesting, and he says he put over 10k in it.
Lin

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Gerard Chateauvieux <
pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com> wrote:

> I can't say for certain, but by the description and the damage I see
> on the radiator, this sounds like the same car I saw at last summer's
> Pittsburgh Grand Prix. It was for sale for 5K then.
>
> Gerard
>
> On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:20 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:30:50 -0400
> > From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] another pink MKII on craigslist 14K
> > To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Message-ID:
> >       <205cef430806200330t2679c1f4p27aa63d69489016 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > List,
> > I just got this from Anita in WA (she too has a pristine MKII in
> > deep pink).
> > We both laughed that he called it salmon and the funny thing is my
> > po listed
> > my pink Sprite salmon too. Come on guys is it a guy thing to call
> > your pink
> > car salmon .......hehehehe. If he gets anywhere near 14K for his
> > MKII I'll
> > eat my salmon car : )
> > I sent him a message for pictures as I am trying to set up a
> > database of all
> > existing deep pink Sprites to send to Terry Horler.
> > Enjoy
> >
> > http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/car/720849160.html
> >
> > 62 California Sprite "Pinky......er....... Sally Salmon?"
> > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun 21 07:13:11 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:13:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <95656546.20080621061311@pacifier.com>

Hello Rrengineer,

     My last post before heading EAST.......

     it sounds like your timing is too advanced.. It is Overheating
     AND Pinging, the classic indicators....

     See ya there.. .. wishing I had air condtitioning!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
  Maybe there's something wrong with the Universe. 

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun 21 07:16:38 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 14:16:38 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
Message-ID: <19899031.1214054198054.JavaMail.root@ps30>

It seems to me that (for well adjusted brakes) you are using the 
hydraulics to transmit pressure, rather more than movement of a 
quantity of fluid.  Whereas on a clutch you actively pump a volume of 
fluid through the connecting pipes to the slave. I know that there is 
movement in both cases, but it is a matter of degree. And, for a 
clutch, you want the least resistance in the process so the larger bore 
pipe alows the fluid through easily.

I also wonder if it helps or hinders in the notorious clutch bleeding 
process?

>----Original Message----
>From: Weslake1330 at aol.com
>Date: 21/06/2008 9:36 
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subj: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
>
>Ok List,
> 
>Ignoring the merits or otherwise of stainless steel tubing V 
cupronickle  
>what is the view on the bore of the rigid clutch line?  Why did the 
factory  use 
>larger bore rigid hydraulic line on the clutch than on the brake 
line?   What 
>difference, if any, will it make if I use the same bore pipe on the 
clutch  as 
>on the brake lines?  I do have brass fittings and line to make up 
either  
>option.
> 
>W E S L A K E 1330
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 07:21:47 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:21:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] battery acid on the terminals crap
Message-ID: <205cef430806210621l6da2b5c8h5f81ec67c673e6dc@mail.gmail.com>

List,
We all know the battery in our Spridigets are in a bad location and I dread
to remove mine as I fear throwing my back out once again. I have the usual
acid buildup on my terminals and I tried those little pads which don't work
and I don't want to clean it again without removing it so I can get it
really clean using baking soda wash. Do those terminal sprays work to reduce
the acid buildup or should I use petroleum jelly and does that work? Or
should I replace my battery with a screw post type battery and of course
replace the cables? I have never had corrosion on my screw down type of
batteries. Are our Sprites using 500 cold cranking amps I may swap this
battery for my 67 VW camper and buy a screw type for the Sprite.
Lin

PS Woops I better change into the I don't care jeans if I'm playing around
with batteries I just hate holes in my nice jeans :)


62 California Sprite (Pinky)
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 07:52:52 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:52:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <256154.14341.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <205cef430806200324n3617fbfcn20ca3b38391b2a7a@mail.gmail.com>
	<256154.14341.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430806210652g5ebbcb1dv39a672e6bc320654@mail.gmail.com>

Vigil,
Yea hard to believe they pay me to have fun : )
I make it a pretty nice program because I teach the kids 3D modeling
software too. Maybe next year I'll toss in fuel cell cars : )

BTW my parents made us drive with them for 1 year before we could drive
alone or with friends so we had experience with all types of weather, we
have lots of ice out here in NJ (less snow lately). Then if we wanted a car
after that first year of good driving including zero tickets and accidents
we had to pay for the car, repairs & parts as well as insurance. I remember
buying my first car for $50. a daily driver in 1975. It was a 1965 Pontiac 2
door Tempest light blue just like my parents 4 door. I figured if it was
good for mom & dad it was good for me plus $50. was all I got for my
bicycle. I foolishly thought my older brother & dad would teach me how to
work on it but they never had the time so I bought a tool kit and went to
the local junk yard and bought the parts I needed to make the very wet
interior (the po my friend always left the windows open) as nice and odor
free as possible. I also bought other parts at the yard as well as the local
parts store. I asked friends how to do the work and every so often my
brother & dad would answer a question or two but they were always working so
seeing them was a treat in it's self.

I loved that car and It got me hooked on cars. My second car in 1979 was
$50. too a 1968 Spitfire I learned to weld on that car. Oddly the most
important thing in my first car was the stereo, and my second car (LBC ) I
left the radio in the garage because the sound of the LBC engine then & now
is music to my ears.

Too bad the $50. car is $500. now (if you can find them).
Lin



On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:28 AM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Linda,
>
> Great idea. Sounds like fun times for summer school and not just for the
> kids.
> I know you will have fun with this class.
>
> Vigil
>
>
> *Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> List,
>
> I start teaching summer school on Monday and the best part is we make stuff
> go and there are no exams. Mag Lev Cars, Solar Cars and Co2 Cars one week
> each. I like to get the kids into cars young so they bug their parents for
> the car keys early.
>
> Lin
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 08:23:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The torture never stops....
Message-ID: <e98d88090806210723y10d0a7adkfc20f8e6237494af@mail.gmail.com>

So I put in the new pedal, with the clevis hole brazed up. There is NO play
in the clutch pedal.
I put it up on the jack, start it, my assistant drops the car, and off I go.
I hit the clutch and the brake several times, no breaking loose.
WTF am I doing wrong now??
How far should the arm on the transmission move, when the pedal is
depressed? I can get under and check that,  maybe IT isn't moving far
enough.

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun 21 08:38:11 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:38:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
In-Reply-To: <19899031.1214054198054.JavaMail.root@ps30>
References: <19899031.1214054198054.JavaMail.root@ps30>
Message-ID: <92996409.20080621073811@pacifier.com>

Hello guy,

     one would think that the size of the pipe between is irrelevant
     other than the amount of fluid it holds. you move a given amount
     of fluid with the stroke of the pedal, and it takes a given
     amount of fluid to move the slave cylinder. As long as there is
     enough IN the master sufficient to move the slave the given
     amount, the quantity in the pipe between should mean nothing.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
      * Naughtily, Tom said nothing.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 08:59:12 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:59:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
In-Reply-To: <92996409.20080621073811@pacifier.com>
References: <19899031.1214054198054.JavaMail.root@ps30>
	<92996409.20080621073811@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806210759k5676f262q51cd556feb48b54d@mail.gmail.com>

I will disagree with you on this. Not because I know anything, but because
while I was going through the problem on the 68, Peter C and I talked. He
asked if I had the correct line, and told me it was VERY important the the
correct line was on the car.
Peter can elaborate why in more detail than I.

Brad

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello guy,
>
>     one would think that the size of the pipe between is irrelevant
>     other than the amount of fluid it holds. you move a given amount
>     of fluid with the stroke of the pedal, and it takes a given
>     amount of fluid to move the slave cylinder. As long as there is
>     enough IN the master sufficient to move the slave the given
>     amount, the quantity in the pipe between should mean nothing.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>      * Naughtily, Tom said nothing.
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 09:17:45 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:17:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The torture FINALLY stops....
Message-ID: <e98d88090806210817s126586c0o9afafe06c92bbf1@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, got my breath back from pushing the lawn ornament back into the yard.
I'm not smart enough to stop, and let all the kind folks at LotO help. I
have this phobia of not being able to take care of my own shit.
Back out to the street, jack up the rear, start it, and now I just abuse the
HELL out of the brakes and tires. I rev it up to about 4 grand, and slam on
the brakes, leaving black trails on the asphalt. I do this about 6 times,
slide around the corner just down the street, narrowly missing a former
employee in their minivan.
Push in the clutch, slowly apply the brakes until I stop, and the car
doesn't die.

Now to get after the rear transmission seal.
I see there is a felt bit on it, does this need to be oiled up prior to
installation??

Brad







On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> So I put in the new pedal, with the clevis hole brazed up. There is NO play
> in the clutch pedal.
> I put it up on the jack, start it, my assistant drops the car, and off I
> go. I hit the clutch and the brake several times, no breaking loose.
> WTF am I doing wrong now??
> How far should the arm on the transmission move, when the pedal is
> depressed? I can get under and check that,  maybe IT isn't moving far
> enough.
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad




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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 09:26:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:26:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806210826y68568062ud2a9a28a5578a495@mail.gmail.com>

LotO Forecast:

Will update this tomorrow, but presently...

Partly cloudy to mostly sunny through the period with highs in the mid to
upper 80s.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/21/08, rrengineer at dslextreme.com <rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> Went on a shake down cruise today in 107 degree weather from San
> Bernardino to Fallbrook, California at Bob Kitterer's house.  I figured it
> would be a true test.  I don't know who got the worst punishment, the car
> or me.  Took a day off of work to work on the brakes before the LotO road
> trip.  One thing it taught me is that I will be damn glad to have the
> Bugeye on the trailer behind my air conditioned truck on the way out
> there.  The Bugeye does NOT like hot weather.  Under a load, it backfires
> through the carb over 4000 RPM.  It puked oil out the crankcase vent
> drilled into the side of the block and steamed out almost a gallon and a
> half of water from the radiator just before it got to Bob's house.  It
> also pings under acceleration all the time.  We let it sit for a couple
> hours so the car and myself and my son Justin (he will be at LotO too)
> could cool down first.  I think Justin and I drank as much water as the
> car did to cool down.  After a call to David Anton at APT, we swapped out
> the plugs that were BP6ES to BP7ES.  David says the copper core are the
> best for our cars. He also said it sounds like the car is running lean and
> needs higher octane fuel, not to mention an aluminum radiator from Tom
> Colby.  Well, I may be able to drop some 107 Octane Booster in the tank
> before I leave, I don't think the aluminum radiator is in the cards.  We
> timed the engine to 30 degrees with the adjustable timing light after
> changing the spark plugs.  It runs smoother, but it still pings.  I need a
> different needle in the HIF44 carb and some octane booster.  What's the
> temps supposed to be like in the Ozarks next week?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> P.S. Bob says hi to you all and wishes he could be there next week.
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2008!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 09:46:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806210759k5676f262q51cd556feb48b54d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19899031.1214054198054.JavaMail.root@ps30>
	<92996409.20080621073811@pacifier.com>
	<e98d88090806210759k5676f262q51cd556feb48b54d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806210846j1a05b54ftc6243bdcb8b907c9@mail.gmail.com>

My physics background dealing with compressible fluids tells me you are not
only moving the fluid, you are compressing it too at least some degree. With
a mildly incompressible fluid (hydraulic fluid) there is still some
compression taking place. As to flow considerations, constrict the flow
(narrower tube) and logically to assume you get more pressure and
movement??

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/21/08, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will disagree with you on this. Not because I know anything, but because
> while I was going through the problem on the 68, Peter C and I talked. He
> asked if I had the correct line, and told me it was VERY important the the
> correct line was on the car.
> Peter can elaborate why in more detail than I.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello guy,
> >
> >     one would think that the size of the pipe between is irrelevant
> >     other than the amount of fluid it holds. you move a given amount
> >     of fluid with the stroke of the pedal, and it takes a given
> >     amount of fluid to move the slave cylinder. As long as there is
> >     enough IN the master sufficient to move the slave the given
> >     amount, the quantity in the pipe between should mean nothing.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> >  '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
> >      * Naughtily, Tom said nothing.
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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> >
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>
>
>
>
> --
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>
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2008!!
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 21 10:20:54 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:20:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] static timing new 1275
Message-ID: <385035.93433.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm trying to set timing on a new build. I have a 123ignition distributor. I'm setting #1 to TDC by watching valves and piston rise. Using pencil in #1 plug hole by feel.

My mark on the balancer seems to be 180 off. I'm not sure how that happened. My machinist set up the cam and timing using the Kent timing wheel. I assume it's right. He's smart, and he got it right last time.

I'm using the 123ignition method of bringing #1 to TDC then rotating distributor to get green light to come on. I can barely get a single cyl to fire. All 4 are getting spark when checked individually.

How close do I have to be to EXACT TDC? Shouldn't I get it to at least run rough if I'm close?

Any advice?

Joe
62 Sprite, in shop for 2 years this 4th of July.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 21 10:29:29 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:29:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The torture never stops....
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806210723y10d0a7adkfc20f8e6237494af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <266421.84901.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> How far should the arm on the transmission move, when the
> pedal is
> depressed? I can get under and check that,  maybe IT
> isn't moving far
> enough.

Look through the transmission access hole. The throwout bearing should move the pressure plate fingers .171 inches nominally. 

Ron

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 10:43:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:43:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] static timing new 1275
Message-ID: <bcd.2e20a580.358e89c2@aol.com>

Is it a new balancer or an original Spridget one?  A new balancer  might be 
for the transverse A-series which has the timing pointer in a different  place 
but not 180 degrees out.
 
In a message dated 21/06/2008 17:21:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
kidjoevid at yahoo.com writes:

My mark  on the balancer seems to be 180 off.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 10:44:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:44:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] OR    Re:  static timing new 1275
Message-ID: <c94.329204fb.358e89fe@aol.com>

On the other hand you get TDC twice!  the first time for firing, the  second 
time for exhaust.
 
In a message dated 21/06/2008 17:21:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
kidjoevid at yahoo.com writes:

My mark  on the balancer seems to be 180 off

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 21 10:50:20 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:50:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
Message-ID: <c38.346eee5e.358e8b4c@aol.com>

I'm inclined to agree with Bill and apparently modern and race clutch  slaves 
all have the smaller bore diameter.  
 
So my amended question is now not just why is the clutch pipe bigger bore  
but why isn't this bigger bore used any longer?
 
Also the clutch slave (69 to ??) is designed for small bore pipe and in  fact 
has an adaptor to take up the larger size.
 
Interested in what Peter C has to say.  Also, while I'll be using the  
standard clutch master, at least for now, I'm going to use a co-axial release  
bearing (its a Ford 5 -speed).
 
Regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 21/06/2008 15:38:28 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

one  would think that the size of the pipe between is irrelevant
other than the amount of fluid it holds. you move a given  amount
of fluid with the stroke of the pedal, and it  takes a given
amount of fluid to move the slave  cylinder. As long as there is
enough IN the master  sufficient to move the slave the given
amount, the  quantity in the pipe between should mean nothing

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun 21 11:47:35 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:47:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Off we go
Message-ID: <000601c8d3c6$e4061b90$6401a8c0@personal>

Miss Agatha is so excited when I opened the door this morning and she saw the
trailer. She knows whats up it seems. She was so excited I did not even need
the choke, out the door and up the ramps. Now she is backed into the garage
for the night.

She's on, straped down, tires checked and shined including trailer tires,
straps taped, fluids checked, vacummed, and good to go. Tis a lovely sight.

Man you can just see her leaning forward. She is preaty clean but not a show
job, supose to rain on us tomorrow some. She even has a full tank of gas. Not
sure how that happened but it did. All systems go. Even put the trailer spare
tire in a very large plastic bag and stuck it in the tow cars trunk. Can't
have momas clothes getting dirty.

With her behind, sure hope she dosn't want to pass, it is like haveing a dingy
just in case.


Beep beep, Bugeye comming through. Expect to arrive late afternoon Wed.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jun 21 11:57:33 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:57:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Off we go
References: <000601c8d3c6$e4061b90$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <017801c8d3c8$48c725f0$01fea8c0@C600>

I wish I knew someone with an empty trailer who was going through my area.
I'd load Madge and send her with some spending money and let you guys
restore her to her original glory - minus the orange paint.

Oh well, I'll be happy just to get her hydraulics straightened out so I can
drive her this summer.  I think I am going to try my hand at painting next
summer and see what happens.  I can always take her to a body shop if I mess
up too badly.

I envy all of you who are able to go.  I know a great time will be had by
all.

Kate

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun 21 12:31:23 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:31:23 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
Message-ID: <2654534.1214073083526.JavaMail.root@ps36.mc.tiscali.sys>

Bill, when transferring pressure - as is largely the case with the 
braking system, then I would agree.

But in the case of the clutch you are moving a quantity of fluid 
through the pipe, and a smaller bore pipe will take longer and / or 
more pressure, to force the required quantity of fluid through it.

Guy

>----Original Message----
>From: pythias at pacifier.com
>Date: 21/06/2008 15:38 
>To: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>, <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subj: Re: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
>
>Hello guy,
>
>     one would think that the size of the pipe between is irrelevant
>     other than the amount of fluid it holds. you move a given amount
>     of fluid with the stroke of the pedal, and it takes a given
>     amount of fluid to move the slave cylinder. As long as there is
>     enough IN the master sufficient to move the slave the given
>     amount, the quantity in the pipe between should mean nothing.
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
> Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403
>      * Naughtily, Tom said nothing.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 21 14:44:50 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:44:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Off we go
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV620D9A78042706EF37DCDC8A40@phx.gbl>

www.eastwood.com

HPLV Devilbiss Auto Paint System :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 21 15:08:00 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:08:00 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV5ED92AF4BA38CA543E0BDC8A40@phx.gbl>

Think of what an original (heavy quality) conv. top would cost today vs. the thinner
quality we pay $300 for today. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 21 15:27:10 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:27:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3B386306EB7806F324A42C8A40@phx.gbl>

At the age of 14...
took my Dad's 1 ton Chevy truck out when he and Mom were visiting her sister up in New Haven. They were going to be gone until at least the sun went down.

They lied!  :(

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 21 15:56:07 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:56:07 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4B92E971DD5B2AB685CD2C8A40@phx.gbl>

I don't want to get off on a rant here, but...

"The 'gimme' generation"

Boy, you can say that again.

We have more oil than God beneath US land mass and off-shore and are one of the world's greatest petroleum users.

Yet, while we go begging or otherwise INSISTING the MidEast oil producers pump
more of their finite natural resource to meet OUR needs, we contribute little to nothing to the global petroleum pool 'cause we want a clean environment.

And yet, other countries can maintain a clean environment while concurrently pumping plenty of oil...Norway comes to
mind. Yet we cannot do this!!!

"Gimme, gimme, gimme" while contributing
virtually nothing to what we want, though we are in a position to do so!!! Great global team players, my gov't/Congress. Childishly
selfish would be more like it in this particular respect.

I hope the MidEast oil producers tell us to 
f-ck off. 

My gov't/Congress deserves such treatment for being so short-
sighted. You could see this situation coming 30+ years ago when MidEast
Governments nationalized their natural
resource. I mean, our stupidity in this particular respect is embarrassing! :( 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Kate
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 3:21 PM
To: M, Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars

And when your girls grow up, they will probably be responsible citizens with
a strong work ethic, rather than a part of the gimmee generation.  I have
two grand daughters the same age as your girls who are being raised the same
way.  More power to parents who are not afraid to be parents.  Tell your
daughters that this old lady said they need to thank you for caring enough
to raise them right.

Kate

Kate


> I have no problem getting kids involved in cars early, they just need to
have
> the appropriate attitudes shown by the parents- you get what you work for
and
> no more.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Jun 21 16:04:59 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:04:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3A58A738BA375733B1777C8A40@phx.gbl>

Worked in the family business full-time during summers (weekends in winter) while also cutting lawns and shoveling snow in the neighborhood, jr high and HS.

Bought first Frog paying 50% cash financing the balance (to build cr. rating) over 12 mos. Continued working, sold Sprite after 1 year and traded up to MGA's,

And the rest is history. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Jun 21 16:23:30 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (millerls at ado13.com)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:23:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Off we go
Message-ID: <380-220086621222330868@M2W025.mail2web.com>

Good luck. Sandi, Bugzuki and I arrived in Colorado Springs last night
after an uneventful trip from California. The plan is to leave here early
Tuesday morning for the final stage of the trip.

See yA THERE.
lARRY mILLER

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Jack Laird jlaird237 at cox.net
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:47:35 -0500
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Off we go


Miss Agatha is so excited when I opened the door this morning and she saw
the
trailer. She knows whats up it seems. She was so excited I did not even need
the choke, out the door and up the ramps. Now she is backed into the garage
for the night.

She's on, straped down, tires checked and shined including trailer tires,
straps taped, fluids checked, vacummed, and good to go. Tis a lovely sight.

Man you can just see her leaning forward. She is preaty clean but not a show
job, supose to rain on us tomorrow some. She even has a full tank of gas.
Not
sure how that happened but it did. All systems go. Even put the trailer
spare
tire in a very large plastic bag and stuck it in the tow cars trunk. Can't
have momas clothes getting dirty.

With her behind, sure hope she dosn't want to pass, it is like haveing a
dingy
just in case.


Beep beep, Bugeye comming through. Expect to arrive late afternoon Wed.
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 21 17:46:54 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] static timing new 1275
Message-ID: <357078.84440.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Which cable should be the #1? At present it appears to be at about 8:00...

 Also check the rotor at that position if it
> points to the #1
> spark plug cable your good if not the distributor drive
> spindle is 180 deg
> out.
> 		Crash    
> 
> 
> I'm trying to set timing on a new build. I have a
> 123ignition distributor.
> I'm setting #1 to TDC by watching valves and piston
> rise. Using pencil in #1
> plug hole by feel.
> 
> My mark on the balancer seems to be 180 off. I'm not
> sure how that happened.
> My machinist set up the cam and timing using the Kent
> timing wheel. I assume
> it's right. He's smart, and he got it right last
> time.
> 
> I'm using the 123ignition method of bringing #1 to TDC
> then rotating
> distributor to get green light to come on. I can barely get
> a single cyl to
> fire. All 4 are getting spark when checked individually.
> 
> How close do I have to be to EXACT TDC? Shouldn't I get
> it to at least run
> rough if I'm close?
> 
> Any advice?
> 
> Joe
> 62 Sprite, in shop for 2 years this 4th of July.

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 18:15:05 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:15:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806210826y68568062ud2a9a28a5578a495@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<43840a7e0806210826y68568062ud2a9a28a5578a495@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <545afe080806211715j353276a8l959d06738ed88efc@mail.gmail.com>

Oh yeah?  Wait til Frank gets there;)

Phil Nase


On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> LotO Forecast:
>
> Will update this tomorrow, but presently...
>
> Partly cloudy to mostly sunny through the period with highs in the mid to
> upper 80s.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Sat Jun 21 18:47:55 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:47:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Spitfire
Message-ID: <28816.130.189.10.62.1214095675.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>

I have a friend looking for a header and an exhaust for a 1500 Spitfire.
Anyone have a lead on these?
Dick Byrne

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Jun 21 18:56:50 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:56:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <BAY118-DAV5ED92AF4BA38CA543E0BDC8A40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004701c8d402$dbaa66e0$6401a8c0@personal>

Not so sure that todays vinyl is not better quality what with the 
improvements in tech.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
To: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars


> Think of what an original (heavy quality) conv. top would cost today vs. 
> the thinner
> quality we pay $300 for today. :)
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 19:09:58 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:09:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <20080620.163222.1474.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080620.163222.1474.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
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Nope....  Rode the school bus.  Lived about eight miles out.  Was snow in
winter as a rule.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 19:11:38 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:11:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MKII running poorly
Message-ID: <205cef430806211811g63447185l6544ffa933f02d2a@mail.gmail.com>

List,
As per my running out of gas the other weekend I thought perhaps my Sprite
had a clogged fuel line or crap in the gas tank so I added an additional
fuel filter & replaced the first one with a new one too so I now have a
filter on ether side of the pump so I can see if the tank is clean and it is
crystal clear. But she still doesn't sound right as though she may be
missing. We installed a new valve head only a few hundred miles ago, the
rings were done less then 1K ago I didn't check the plugs yet so I'll do
that tomorrow any other thoughts. She just sounds like she is not herself as
I give it gas it doesn't sound right till 5K RPMs and above and then she
sounds OK and at idle she sounds fine . I suspect fouled plugs from sitting
so long (winter). I'll clean them up and re gap or replace with new. Then I
can always pull each wire and see if all cylinders are firing right?
Lin

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 21 19:15:14 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:15:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <018e01c8d336$6f5bc8c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <970932.4740.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<018e01c8d336$6f5bc8c0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP139C93D29DA63321EE485BB8A70@CEZ.ICE>

Was? ;)  <just kidding>

Driver's Ed saved my life a few times.


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels

What an idiot I was.


LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars


--- On Fri, 6/20/08, Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:
> However, one thing I have decided is that they will pay for
> all of their  own
> driving lessons themselves.

Not me. Mine are both going to Skip Barber's street class on me. They don't 
get keys until they do, period.

http://www.skipbarber.com/driving_school/mazda/new_driver.aspx

By all accounts, there is no better way to prepare them for what's out 
there.

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jun 21 19:20:06 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:20:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Spitfire
In-Reply-To: <28816.130.189.10.62.1214095675.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <C482F6D6.16B83%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Summit Racing:  PaceSetter Performance 70-1090 - $137.39
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntt=Triumph+Spitfire&N=700+42949
23429+115+4294873086&Ntk=KeywordSearch

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 21 19:52:34 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:52:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <545afe080806211715j353276a8l959d06738ed88efc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<43840a7e0806210826y68568062ud2a9a28a5578a495@mail.gmail.com>
	<545afe080806211715j353276a8l959d06738ed88efc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485DB062.8070208@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
> Oh yeah?  Wait til Frank gets there;)
>
>
>   
>> LotO Forecast:
>>
>>
>> Partly cloudy to mostly sunny through the period with highs in the mid to
>> upper 80s.
>>
>>
>>     
Now wait just a minute, I am not going to stay in PennsylRAINia, but I 
do have to travel thru the state so it will only rain on Tuesday.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 21 19:59:23 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:59:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
In-Reply-To: <c4b.2e577062.358e17a0@aol.com>
References: <c4b.2e577062.358e17a0@aol.com>
Message-ID: <485DB1FB.7090503@comcast.net>

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>   Why did the factory  use 
> larger bore rigid hydraulic line on the clutch than on the brake line?  
Good question. The size increased to  1/4" with the 1275 and the rubber 
hose from the slave.
Up from the 3/16" pipe on 948s and 1098s. They also got rid of the pedal 
stop on the clutch pedal when the pipe expanded.
I think the larger pipe means more pedal travel. I am guessing because 
the clutches changed along with the engines but my stock 67 needs the 
least amount of pressure to push in the clutch. Diane keeps saying there 
is no pedal pressure but it works fine.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 21 20:11:57 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:11:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] static timing new 1275
In-Reply-To: <357078.84440.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <357078.84440.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <485DB4ED.50406@comcast.net>

Joe Lansing wrote:
> Which cable should be the #1? At present it appears to be at about 8:00...
>
>   
Sounds like the distributor drive is  out.
#1 on the cap is at 4:00



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 21 20:16:43 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:16:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <485DB062.8070208@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1KAF8B-000716-CZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Frank the Rainman wrote:  "Now wait just a minute, I am not going to stay in
PennsylRAINia, but I do have to travel thru the state so it will only rain
on Tuesday."

 

Dear Mr. Clarici..

 

May I remind you that when we arrived in England last year, they had been
enjoying a brilliant six weeks of pure sun and warmth?   As soon as you
stepped off the airplane, England was inundated with rain for the next 13 of
the 14 days +/- that you were there.   Not just rain, but flooding, ruined
crops, and vacations turned to disasters.   Do you not remember how
embarrassed I was to be around the guy with the little black cloud with rain
over his head?    Or how I lied to people, "Oh, he doesn't cause this in
America"?    Do you deny that the Queen herself demanded that you leave her
country, an armed escort of eight Bobbies bundled you into the aircraft, and
as the plane lifted into the air, there was heard the rousing shout from
throughout the land, "And don't come back!"?   And that the United States of
America, the United Nations and the World Health Organization all had to
apologize for allowing you to leave America with your known devastating
rain-making proclivities! 

 

MR. Evans

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 21 20:20:12 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:20:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <E1KAF8B-000716-CZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KAF8B-000716-CZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <485DB6DC.1020301@comcast.net>

B- Evans wrote:
>
> Frank the Rainman wrote:  "Now wait just a minute, I am not going to 
> stay in PennsylRAINia, but I do have to travel thru the state so it 
> will only rain on Tuesday."
>
>  
>
> Dear Mr. Clarici....
>
>  
>
> May I remind you that when we arrived in England last year, they had 
> been enjoying a brilliant six weeks of pure sun and warmth?   As soon 
> as you stepped off the airplane, England was inundated with rain for 
> the next 13 of the 14 days +/- that you were there.   Not just rain, 
> but flooding, ruined crops, and vacations turned to disasters.   Do 
> you not remember how embarrassed I was to be around the guy with the 
> little black cloud with rain over his head?    Or how I lied to 
> people, "Oh, he doesn't cause this in America"?    Do you deny that 
> the Queen herself demanded that you leave her country, an armed escort 
> of eight Bobbies bundled you into the aircraft, and as the plane 
> lifted into the air, there was heard the rousing shout from throughout 
> the land, "And don't come back!"?   And that the United States of 
> America, the United Nations and the World Health Organization all had 
> to apologize for allowing you to leave America with your known 
> devastating rain-making proclivities!
>
>  
>
> MR. Evans
>
You forgot to mention I made Tony Blair quit too.
Ok, so we will have 4 days of rain in the Ozarks, it's my fault.
I'm used to it, I have umbrellas, lots of them, I buy one every year in 
Carlisle, PA.
Unlike you guys in CA, us New Jersians do not melt in the rain.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 21 20:22:41 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 19:22:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <BAYC1-PASMTP139C93D29DA63321EE485BB8A70@CEZ.ICE>
Message-ID: <E1KAFDw-0002ew-SN@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:  "Driver's Ed saved my life a few times."

 

And then they had to drop Driver's Ed so the money could be used for
teaching kids how to balance a checkbook, qualify for unemployment,
appreciate multi-culturalism, and use rubbers when they got the cheerleader
under the football stands.   Of course, the trial lawyers helped by suing
the car dealers who donated the cars to the program when a student was in an
accident.

 

Buster

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jun 21 20:32:29 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:32:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
References: <E1KAFDw-0002ew-SN@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <017d01c8d410$37cdd260$6401a8c0@Larry>

Buster, you really have a bad attitude.  Might I suggest a Martini or a 
Quaalude?  Or both?

BTW, are you just a wee bit jealous of the guys that got the cheerleaders 
under the bleachers?  Isn't it time to let that go?  I mean that had to be 
many, many decades ago for you.  Maybe longer.


LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "'Robert Duquette'" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] summer school cars


Robert Duquette wrote:  "Driver's Ed saved my life a few times."



And then they had to drop Driver's Ed so the money could be used for
teaching kids how to balance a checkbook, qualify for unemployment,
appreciate multi-culturalism, and use rubbers when they got the cheerleader
under the football stands.   Of course, the trial lawyers helped by suing
the car dealers who donated the cars to the program when a student was in an
accident.



Buster
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 21 20:49:06 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:49:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <E1KAFDw-0002ew-SN@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <BAYC1-PASMTP139C93D29DA63321EE485BB8A70@CEZ.ICE>
	<E1KAFDw-0002ew-SN@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAYC1-PASMTP0302C47643211A65858CF2B8A70@CEZ.ICE>

"cheerleader" . singular?

 

Actually, the funny thing was that it was the first year driver's ed was
offered thru the school and later that year the principal rear ended a cop
cap.  My mother and I were just a bit behind him.  A picture of his car made
the yearbook.  :-)

 

  _____  

From: B- Evans [mailto:b-evans at earthlink.net] 
Sent: June 21, 2008 10:23 PM
To: 'Robert Duquette'; 'Spridgets'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] summer school cars

 

Robert Duquette wrote:  "Driver's Ed saved my life a few times."

 

And then they had to drop Driver's Ed so the money could be used for
teaching kids how to balance a checkbook, qualify for unemployment,
appreciate multi-culturalism, and use rubbers when they got the cheerleader
under the football stands.   Of course, the trial lawyers helped by suing
the car dealers who donated the cars to the program when a student was in an
accident.

 

Buster

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Jun 21 21:32:59 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:32:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The torture never stops....
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806210723y10d0a7adkfc20f8e6237494af@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090806210723y10d0a7adkfc20f8e6237494af@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D60DAE01-391A-48B8-AC8C-D429BD8A0365@phillymgclub.com>

COOL, A new Zappa Story!!

No wait, it isn't?


On Jun 21, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> So I put in the new pedal, with the clevis hole brazed up. There is  
> NO play
> in the clutch pedal.
> I put it up on the jack, start it, my assistant drops the car, and  
> off I go.
> I hit the clutch and the brake several times, no breaking loose.
> WTF am I doing wrong now??
> How far should the arm on the transmission move, when the pedal is
> depressed? I can get under and check that,  maybe IT isn't moving far
> enough.
>
> -- 
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
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78 Midget

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Jun 21 22:08:25 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:08:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] summer school cars
In-Reply-To: <017d01c8d410$37cdd260$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <E1KAGsG-0007yo-Iw@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "BTW, are you just a wee bit jealous of the guys that
got the cheerleaders under the bleachers?  Isn't it time to let that go?  I
mean that had to be many, many decades ago for you.  Maybe longer."

 

Heheheehe..  C'mon, Larry, YOU of ALL people know better than that!   Just
knowing, you gotta be real jealous! 

 

Buster

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 21 23:34:55 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:34:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>

Or Dodge City either.

It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has shot
craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still an oil
leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a hose
through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.

Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have any time
to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's it for
my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - Dead 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jun 22 00:06:17 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:06:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485DEBD9.80402@wi.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Or Dodge City either.
>
> It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has shot
> craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still an oil
> leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a hose
> through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.
>
> Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have any time
> to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's it for
> my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
>   
O.S.H.I.T. works at LOTO also.  Heck, bring the thing and you can race 
the tow vehicle home!
Bring it ON, we'll Git 'R Done!

Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI
almost ready to roll

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 22 00:15:31 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:15:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I
won't have any time to change out those parts even if I had eplacements.
Guess that's it for my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I
guess."

 

Jim, after you have poured your heart and soul into making this dream a
reality, it would be *criminal* for you not to bring your car to LotO and
let those in your debt fix the problem while you manage the show.   I am
quite sure folks would bring along any parts they remotely believed you
might need!   That, after all, is what friends and this peculiar fraternity
are all about.  Ask me.  I know!

 

Buster

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jun 22 00:22:20 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:22:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <485DEF9C.1090509@wi.net>

B- Evans wrote:
> Jim Johnson wrote:  "Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I
> won't have any time to change out those parts even if I had eplacements.
> Guess that's it for my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I
> guess."
>
>  
>
> Jim, after you have poured your heart and soul into making this dream a
> reality, it would be *criminal* for you not to bring your car to LotO and
> let those in your debt fix the problem while you manage the show.   I am
> quite sure folks would bring along any parts they remotely believed you
> might need!   That, after all, is what friends and this peculiar fraternity
> are all about.  Ask me.  I know!
>
>  
>
> Buster
>
>   
YA, what Buster said. What type of starter do you need I may have one.
Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 22 00:22:19 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D5D173AF-5321-4F2A-867C-F17F85EDA076@comcast.net>

For two bucks at radio shack you can get a bag-o-jumpers and reach  
around behind the damn switch and bypass it.  Quick diagnostics..

Lester

.. I have been in your position, car not ready for the big show so I  
didn't take it, regretted it ever since.


On Jun 22, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Or Dodge City either.
>
> It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has  
> shot
> craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still  
> an oil
> leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a  
> hose
> through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.
>
> Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have  
> any time
> to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's  
> it for
> my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim - Dead 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 22 05:31:54 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:31:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <485DB062.8070208@comcast.net>
References: <22cea53d9a7c74a4272a.20080621000915.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
	<43840a7e0806210826y68568062ud2a9a28a5578a495@mail.gmail.com>
	<545afe080806211715j353276a8l959d06738ed88efc@mail.gmail.com>
	<485DB062.8070208@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <37CF05D3-DBE9-49C0-A5AA-8718E17FE9AC@phillymgclub.com>

And those of us consigned to MG 2008 next week thank you for going  
through on Tuesday, when we start on Wednesday!!

Larry

On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Phil Nase wrote:
>> Oh yeah?  Wait til Frank gets there;)
>>
>>
>>
>>> LotO Forecast:
>>>
>>>
>>> Partly cloudy to mostly sunny through the period with highs in the  
>>> mid to
>>> upper 80s.
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Now wait just a minute, I am not going to stay in PennsylRAINia, but I
> do have to travel thru the state so it will only rain on Tuesday.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 22 05:45:21 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:45:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <A63E85F9-A92F-49E5-841E-AFFB38F71A39@phillymgclub.com>

Jim,

I have to agree with Buster. YOu worked hard on LOTO, take the car,  
let the team fix it for you.

Larry

On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:15 AM, B- Evans wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:  "Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO  
> now. I
> won't have any time to change out those parts even if I had  
> eplacements.
> Guess that's it for my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad  
> luck I
> guess."
>
>
>
> Jim, after you have poured your heart and soul into making this  
> dream a
> reality, it would be *criminal* for you not to bring your car to  
> LotO and
> let those in your debt fix the problem while you manage the show.    
> I am
> quite sure folks would bring along any parts they remotely believed  
> you
> might need!   That, after all, is what friends and this peculiar  
> fraternity
> are all about.  Ask me.  I know!
>
>
>
> Buster
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 06:35:15 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:35:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <A63E85F9-A92F-49E5-841E-AFFB38F71A39@phillymgclub.com>
References: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<A63E85F9-A92F-49E5-841E-AFFB38F71A39@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806220535h27f7419bne1bae7ed0f00d18f@mail.gmail.com>

Jim, call me. 817-641-2486. Let's talk about starters...

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:45 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> I have to agree with Buster. YOu worked hard on LOTO, take the car,
> let the team fix it for you.
>
> Larry
>
> On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:15 AM, B- Evans wrote:
>
> > Jim Johnson wrote:  "Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO
> > now. I
> > won't have any time to change out those parts even if I had
> > eplacements.
> > Guess that's it for my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad
> > luck I
> > guess."
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim, after you have poured your heart and soul into making this
> > dream a
> > reality, it would be *criminal* for you not to bring your car to
> > LotO and
> > let those in your debt fix the problem while you manage the show.
> > I am
> > quite sure folks would bring along any parts they remotely believed
> > you
> > might need!   That, after all, is what friends and this peculiar
> > fraternity
> > are all about.  Ask me.  I know!
> >
> >
> >
> > Buster
> > _______________________________________________
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> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
> Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
> http://mg2008.com
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a
> parked car.
>
>
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From miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Jun 22 06:38:38 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 08:38:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CAA27C0764092D-12C0-3EB6@webmailbeta-m07.sysops.aol.com>

Jim,

This is truly unacceptable behavior on your part, young man !!

Don't even remotely consider leaving your car at home. These guys will take care of it for you, without question. In between all of your work assignments and duties during the event, you need to enjoy having your car there, plus...it needs to sit proudly front and center in the panorama.

Howard


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 1:34 am
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...



Or Dodge City either.

It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has shot
craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still an oil
leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a hose
through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.

Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have any time
to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's it for
my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - Dead 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 08:21:57 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:21:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.  If I am
to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch and key for a
1968 Midget with 1275.  I tested the starter straight from the battery -
nada - so it is shot. Also there is no power anywhere when the key is turned
on and the fuses are good. Ergo, ignition switch gone south.  Its been
sloppy anyway so finally must have died. Both are fairly quick and easy to
change. Does anyone have a spare starter and/or ignition switch they could
bring?  I'll buy 'em from ya .....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 6/22/08, miniac7 at aol.com <miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> This is truly unacceptable behavior on your part, young man !!
>
> Don't even remotely consider leaving your car at home. These guys will take
> care of it for you, without question. In between all of your work
> assignments and duties during the event, you need to enjoy having your car
> there, plus...it needs to sit proudly front and center in the panorama.
>
> Howard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list <
> midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 1:34 am
> Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
>
> Or Dodge City either.
>
> It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has shot
> craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still an oil
> leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a hose
> through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.
>
> Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have any time
> to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's it for
> my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim - Dead 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
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From p.herder at cox.net  Sun Jun 22 08:23:32 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:23:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485E6064.2080408@cox.net>

Now I can understand why I cannot drive my wife's 66 Sprite to LotO...

It is doing a "Frank".  ;^)

http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/DoingAFrank.jpg

Jim,  I will also put in my 2 cents... I think I know that you would 
rather figure it out and fix it on your own and if it wasn't for the 
time factor, you probably would but there isn't time so bring it and let 
the rest of us take a whack at it!  You know what they say about another 
set of eyes (or 40-70 extra sets!)

Paul
66 Sprite tub in
Sedgwick, KS
Leaving Wednesday morning for LotO (IAW Google Maps, 5-6 hour trip)

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Or Dodge City either.
>
> It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch has shot
> craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is still an oil
> leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run a hose
> through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.
>
> Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have any time
> to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's it for
> my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 22 09:16:17 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5561FFAC-02BA-4F29-A406-75BB0DA84290@comcast.net>

Don't get mad at me..


Did some animal eat through your ground wire or is the ground wire bad  
at the battery terminal.

It fits your symptoms perfectly.

Lester

On Jun 22, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.   
> If I am
> to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch and  
> key for a
> 1968 Midget with 1275.  I tested the starter straight from the  
> battery -
> nada - so it is shot. Also there is no power anywhere when the key  
> is turned
> on and the fuses are good. Ergo, ignition switch gone south.  Its been
> sloppy anyway so finally must have died. Both are fairly quick and  
> easy to
> change. Does anyone have a spare starter and/or ignition switch they  
> could
> bring?  I'll buy 'em from ya .....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 6/22/08, miniac7 at aol.com <miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> This is truly unacceptable behavior on your part, young man !!
>>
>> Don't even remotely consider leaving your car at home. These guys  
>> will take
>> care of it for you, without question. In between all of your work
>> assignments and duties during the event, you need to enjoy having  
>> your car
>> there, plus...it needs to sit proudly front and center in the  
>> panorama.
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
>> To: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list <
>> midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 1:34 am
>> Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
>>
>> Or Dodge City either.
>>
>> It appears I not only have a dead starter but my ignition switch  
>> has shot
>> craps too.  I simply cannot start the beast to see if there is  
>> still an oil
>> leak problem now that I have added a second crankcase vent and run  
>> a hose
>> through a PCV valve to the manifold vacuum port.
>>
>> Not much use in towing the damned thing to LotO now. I won't have  
>> any time
>> to change out those parts even if I had replacements.  Guess that's  
>> it for
>> my bringing my Spridget. Just a run of real bad luck I guess.
>> --
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim - Dead 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 22 09:19:06 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:19:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shake Down Cruise
In-Reply-To: <485DB6DC.1020301@comcast.net>
References: <E1KAF8B-000716-CZ@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<485DB6DC.1020301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <64C82920-7AA4-45B6-88CB-B091124AADC1@comcast.net>

hmm.. so maybe putting the hardtop on before I leave isn't such a bad  
idea..  got it.

Lester

On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> B- Evans wrote:
>>
>> Frank the Rainman wrote:  "Now wait just a minute, I am not going to
>> stay in PennsylRAINia, but I do have to travel thru the state so it
>> will only rain on Tuesday."
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Clarici....
>>
>>
>>
>> May I remind you that when we arrived in England last year, they had
>> been enjoying a brilliant six weeks of pure sun and warmth?   As soon
>> as you stepped off the airplane, England was inundated with rain for
>> the next 13 of the 14 days +/- that you were there.   Not just rain,
>> but flooding, ruined crops, and vacations turned to disasters.   Do
>> you not remember how embarrassed I was to be around the guy with the
>> little black cloud with rain over his head?    Or how I lied to
>> people, "Oh, he doesn't cause this in America"?    Do you deny that
>> the Queen herself demanded that you leave her country, an armed  
>> escort
>> of eight Bobbies bundled you into the aircraft, and as the plane
>> lifted into the air, there was heard the rousing shout from  
>> throughout
>> the land, "And don't come back!"?   And that the United States of
>> America, the United Nations and the World Health Organization all had
>> to apologize for allowing you to leave America with your known
>> devastating rain-making proclivities!
>>
>>
>>
>> MR. Evans
>>
> You forgot to mention I made Tony Blair quit too.
> Ok, so we will have 4 days of rain in the Ozarks, it's my fault.
> I'm used to it, I have umbrellas, lots of them, I buy one every year  
> in
> Carlisle, PA.
> Unlike you guys in CA, us New Jersians do not melt in the rain.
>
> -- 
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> Toms River, NJ
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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sun Jun 22 09:46:42 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:46:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6FBCA9BFD2744DC58A062C0BED2D3AD5@Dell9200>

Jim,

Just checking, did you remember to reconnect the engine ground strap when 
you put the engine back in?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: <miniac7 at aol.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts



Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.  If I am
to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch and key for a
1968 Midget with 1275.  I tested the starter straight from the battery -
nada - so it is shot. Also there is no power anywhere when the key is turned
on and the fuses are good. Ergo, ignition switch gone south.  Its been
sloppy anyway so finally must have died. Both are fairly quick and easy to
change. Does anyone have a spare starter and/or ignition switch they could
bring?  I'll buy 'em from ya .....

Cheers!!
Jim

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Jun 22 09:52:04 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:52:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Just in Case
Message-ID: <000e01c8d47f$eb32cfd0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    To those traveling towards LotO from the east -

    I'm in Pittsburgh, about 10 miles from the junction of the PA Turnpike and
Route 70, and about 5 miles from 70/51.

    Anyone need anything - give me a shout.   (412 287 8935 cell )

    I'll be on-line for e-mails and will try to keep the phone close.

    Good luck to yinzers!

                                                                        CB

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sun Jun 22 10:05:50 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:05:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<6FBCA9BFD2744DC58A062C0BED2D3AD5@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <9334B88ED1C941E09D86E7308E5863C9@Dell9200>

Bring it and make it the Tech Session!!!

It could be the LotO Shit!   Has a nice "ring" doesn't it?

Mark







Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.  If I am
to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch and key for a
1968 Midget with 1275. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 10:25:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:25:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather for LotO / MG2008
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806220925u3638d7f8x35598ac424f4e6a1@mail.gmail.com>

As promised....

OUTLOOK:  The latest computer models continue to forecast the main storm
track to stay across the Great Lakes into New England. Disturbances moving
east along this track will be the main weather producers throughout the
coming week as they stir up storms along the polar front which vacillates
along the southern edge of that storm track. It is too early yet to know
with any accuracy when and where each disturbance will be. What is likely
however is that at some point during the Thursday through Sunday time period
one of these disturbances and its associated showers and thunderstorms will
push the polar front south across New York and Pennsylvania. The global
forecast model does this in the Friday night - Saturday time frame but this
timing may not be very accurate.

For Missouri, upper level wind flow patterns remain rather weak and diffuse
thus the disturbances farther north along the storm track are not likely to
impact the area. That said, the airmass in place over Missouri next week
will see afternoon highs in the mid to upper 80s and remains quite humid and
steamy. This is a good recipe for late evening and overnight thunderstorms.
Currently the outlook for the Lake of the Ozarks area is for isolated to
widely scattered late evening and overnight thunderstorms. During this time
period, it is possible to see a strong cluster of thunderstorms develop in
the weak upper flow pattern. As a result one night of strong thunderstorms
containing very heavy rains and strong winds is a possibility. The global
forecast model hints at this type of event Friday night.

Best I can do this far in the future....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City
Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!!

For info and registration... <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 10:35:56 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
In-Reply-To: <9334B88ED1C941E09D86E7308E5863C9@Dell9200>
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<6FBCA9BFD2744DC58A062C0BED2D3AD5@Dell9200>
	<9334B88ED1C941E09D86E7308E5863C9@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806220935ra217216t74d0c11c5d9616ef@mail.gmail.com>

Found a nice looking starter, put cables to it and the Bendix pulls in, and
spins nicely. How is your lead, should I bring another one of those as well?

Before I start to load up, is anyone, other than Jim, willing to help with
the wiring on my A-series test bed? If so, I'm gonna load it up first. This
was a running engine, before I set it on this thing, but I never got around
to figuring out the wiring.
I'll bring a box of spare wiring, wire strippers, shrink wrap, zip ties, and
a schematic, if I have any volunteers.
Please speak up, let me know if I could bring it.

Thanks,
Brad

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:

> Bring it and make it the Tech Session!!!
>
> It could be the LotO Shit!   Has a nice "ring" doesn't it?
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.  If I am
> to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch and key for
> a
> 1968 Midget with 1275.
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> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 22 10:36:03 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:36:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485E1D03.5003.76277F@dmg.bossig.com>

I have a used ignition switch with key I can pull from a spare dashboard in 
the garage...
I am in WA state, but I could express mail it on Monday to anyone that's in, 
near or going to LOTO!!
It would get there Wed ot Thur....

Would that be of any help??

On 22 Jun 2008 at 9:21, Jim Johnson wrote:
>> Sorry guys.  I just don't want to burden anyone with this problem.  If
>> I am to bring it, I will need both a starter and an ignition switch
>> and key for a 1968 Midget with 1275. 
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From p.herder at cox.net  Sun Jun 22 10:49:35 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:49:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806220935ra217216t74d0c11c5d9616ef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<6FBCA9BFD2744DC58A062C0BED2D3AD5@Dell9200>
	<9334B88ED1C941E09D86E7308E5863C9@Dell9200>
	<e98d88090806220935ra217216t74d0c11c5d9616ef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485E829F.1080501@cox.net>

Bring it!  I have some experience in wiring a car from scratch... to 
include EFI.  To see the last car I built (and have since sold) go to 
the manufacturer's web site:

http://www.stalkerv6.com

A carbed A-series test stand should have a BUNCH less wires to make it work!

And yes, I do plan on wiring my 66 from scratch (with EFI!)

Paul
66 Sprite tub in
Sedgwick, KS
Leaving for LotO on Wednesday morning.


Brad Fornal wrote:
> Found a nice looking starter, put cables to it and the Bendix pulls in, and
> spins nicely. How is your lead, should I bring another one of those as well?
>
> Before I start to load up, is anyone, other than Jim, willing to help with
> the wiring on my A-series test bed? If so, I'm gonna load it up first. This
> was a running engine, before I set it on this thing, but I never got around
> to figuring out the wiring.
> I'll bring a box of spare wiring, wire strippers, shrink wrap, zip ties, and
> a schematic, if I have any volunteers.
> Please speak up, let me know if I could bring it.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 22 12:32:32 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:32:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville... Plea for Parts
References: <43840a7e0806220721x193bacc7m86a990064af4c9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<5561FFAC-02BA-4F29-A406-75BB0DA84290@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <018301c8d496$55da6c60$6501a8c0@shop>

<<Did some animal eat through your ground wire or is the ground wire bad  
at the battery terminal.

It fits your symptoms perfectly.>>

Agreed, Lester.  

Re-check some of your connections, Jim!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 22 12:37:19 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:37:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
References: <E1KAIrG-00023r-LI@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <018f01c8d497$01291940$6501a8c0@shop>

<<That, after all, is what friends and this peculiar fraternity are all about.  
Ask me.  I know!>>

Yes you do, Buster !!

For those possibly "un-knowing":

www.bustercluster2006.0rg    

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 12:01:05 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:01:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather for LotO / MG2008
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806220925u3638d7f8x35598ac424f4e6a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806220925u3638d7f8x35598ac424f4e6a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806221101i2fcb696fj7892817295319558@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jim,

Ref your Midget woes, your 68 should have the padded dash. If so, the
ignition set (key and cylinder) even if non-cooperative at times will not be
the problem. There is a flat steel bar that connects it to the electrical
side where the actual circuitry is. That piece is on the other side of the
steering column. You have to take the whole assembly off to get to it.

That being said, it is highly unlikely that the ignition switch is bad
unless you had the key cylinder out for some reason and did not line up the
flat steel bar upon reassembly. Coupled with the starter problem, I would
suspect something else... The ground issue is probably the best place to
start. A quick way to find out about your starter is to pull it and see if
it works. You can actually wiggle one out from under the car so you do not
have to remove the dizzy. Then use a pair of jumper cables to test it. Hook
one lead to the stud where the power cable attaches and the other lead to
the body of the started and depending on your car's ground ( + or - )
appropriately touch to a good battery. If it spins you can cross the starter
off your list.

HTH
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 22 12:08:18 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No joy in Mudville...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806212234v6b610affh7ecc586c8fc4a18b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <485E9512.7060206@comcast.net>

Jim I already have a spare starter packed.
I will now go dig up an ignition switch, hell, PIECES used a toggle 
switch to turn it on!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 13:32:01 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:32:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone going to LotO have......
Message-ID: <e98d88090806221232t1044edccn74da2e30e1a8760a@mail.gmail.com>

A double relay of some sort? I have yet to hook up my Raydyot fog and
driving lamp. I would like to put them on separate relays, so as not to
damage the switches.

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Sun Jun 22 13:46:43 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:46:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] coming along to LotO
Message-ID: <200806221946.m5MJkhKi020668@musca.ucdavis.edu>

I'm overnighting in Price Utah with free internet.  The car is running 
great and I haven't even hooked up the laptop once. I start over the 
Rockies early tomorrow morning, fingers crossed.

Cruise control, YES!!!!

33mpg avg to now

Glen Byrns

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jun 22 13:53:26 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 12:53:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] coming along to LotO
References: <200806221946.m5MJkhKi020668@musca.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <001101c8d4a1$a385d7a0$01fea8c0@C600>

Great job, and thanks again for your help.  Bill & Bill are presently
somewhere in Elko, heading this way shortly.

Kate

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 22 17:34:01 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:34:01 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sputtering/Missing
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV542B090690659A56508CDC8A70@phx.gbl>

Which Midget, Kristi?

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun 22 18:51:40 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:51:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Spitfire
References: <28816.130.189.10.62.1214095675.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <01b001c8d4cb$4ce513f0$6501a8c0@shop>

<<Anyone have a lead on these?>>

Get my OFF List reply, Dick??

Ed

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 22 20:05:53 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:05:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Envy
Message-ID: <E1KAbRE-0002mR-1E@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Early on, I had to make a decision:   plan on going to LotO for the 50th
anniversary, or ship my car to England to take part in the John O'Groat to
Land's End run that was planned, then to some of the anniversary
celebrations over there.  Then the planning of a family reunion in England
clinched it.   I would ship the car over and spend the summer in Blighty.

 

As time passed, my plans began to fall apart.    Our two daughters decided
they had had enough of Southern California, its masses of cars, highways,
high rises, steel, glass, hordes of people moving in, and what seems to be
an imminent annexation by Mexico.   They decided to get while the getting
was good, and went "town hunting".   Both decided on a more pastoral life in
Central and East Tennessee.  Then, the crushing news.   Both families,
including our four grandsons, would be moving after the school year ended,
most likely in June.

 

We have always been fortunate with one daughter and her family living a mile
from us, our son and his family two miles from us, and his twin sister 80
miles south with her family on Coronado Island.   Yes, we were spoiled.
Those of you who have children and grandchildren who live close-by know the
immense blessing He has given you.   Those whose children have moved far
away, can understand the depression we are now going through.

 

That brought a screeching halt to any plans to celebrate the Sprite golden
anniversary in England.   But in order that I might spend as much time as
possible with the family, it also meant I would have to forego LotO.

 

For the last week, I have had two grandsons staying with us, and it has been
grand spinning around in the Sprite.  The oldest is 12, and he has already
started searching eBay with the dream of getting a project Bugeye and
working on it until he can get a license.   Next week, there will be three
grandsons here, as our cup overfloweth.

 

As I have been reading of the preparations everyone has been making for the
great event, I have felt increasingly somber and depressed that I will not
be able to be there with my car that I have had for almost as long as the
infectious Bugeye has been on the road.

 

Have fun, you guys and gals.   Know that my heart and soul will be with you
there.

 

Know also that I am filled with envy.

 

Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 22 20:59:57 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:59:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint
References: <D2C28672CA624044A4856F1CA7205C9E@Home>
	<205cef430806010419u357e3aa0wb12cf8a0f6b0bc77@mail.gmail.com>
	<001601c8c44f$b2b20210$0300a8c0@blackbox2>
	<48435A7E.1060007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <004a01c8d4dd$38ecc0c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Well,  I did'nt roll it.  I broke down and bought a HVLP spray gun.

At this point I have only shot the first coat, but I have to say I am 
amazed..
I never thought it would end up looking so good.  The "out of the box"
gloss makes this paint very forgiving.  The downside is the slow
drying time.

The Rustoleum "Antique White" is extremely close, if not dead on, for the
Old English White.  I don't think I would have proceeded if I were not
convinced of this.

I'll see if I can take some pictures of it in the sunlight and post them.

I thinned it with acetone, about 15%.  I think on the next coat
I may try mineral spirits at 20%-30%, to give it more time to settle.

I'll let the first coat set up for a few days before I wet sand and then 
shoot
the second coat.

Also I am sold on HVLP.    One quart covered the whole car with some
left over.   Very little of it went up in the air.   Sorry Frank, its a 
Chinese
gun.  It's the only one I could find that had a CFM rating that my
compressor could keep up with.

I have'nt given up on the roller.   I will use it to do the undercaridge
floorboards etc...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rustoleum Paint


> My buddy painted his Sprite with Rustoleum some 6 or 7 years ago now. It 
> looks pretty good still.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jun 22 22:29:59 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:29:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Madge has brakes!
References: <200806221946.m5MJkhKi020668@musca.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <008301c8d4e9$cd0d0470$01fea8c0@C600>

Bill & Bill spent the afternoon bleeding my brake & clutch lines, and Madge
now stops and shifts smoothly and properly.  She also has working brake
lights for the first time in years.  Tomorrow I will replace her 15 year old
battery with one that will hold a charge and start driving her again.
Spridget people are definitely the greatest folks in the entire world!!!

They plan to leave before daylight and hope to make Rawlins Monday night,
somewhere in Nebraska Tuesday, and arrive at LOTO on Wednesday.  They are
driving matching SB Sprites, one pulling a trailer.  I only wish I could go
with them.

Kate

From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 22 23:23:34 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:23:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rod Bearing part number
Message-ID: <677442.98913.qm@web56001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I'm trying to find out what the following rod bearing part number translates to-

2A 690 (one end)
2783 (other end)

I think the brand is Vandervell or AE.  I need to know if it's standard or .010 undersize.

Thanks,
Mike Rivers 
1961 MG Midget 1275

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 23 10:09:11 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Envy
In-Reply-To: <E1KAbRE-0002mR-1E@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <612435.11597.qm@web51903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Buster,
It seems you need to load up everything and move to East Tennessee!  There are
a few of us Spridgeteers and other Brit car people here, so come on down!

--- On Sun, 6/22/08, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

From: B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Envy
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com,
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 9:05 PM

Early on, I had to make a decision:   plan on going to LotO for the 50th
anniversary, or ship my car to England to take part in the John O'Groat to
Land's End run that was planned, then to some of the anniversary
celebrations over there.  Then the planning of a family reunion in England
clinched it.   I would ship the car over and spend the summer in Blighty.



As time passed, my plans began to fall apart.    Our two daughters decided
they had had enough of Southern California, its masses of cars, highways,
high rises, steel, glass, hordes of people moving in, and what seems to be
an imminent annexation by Mexico.   They decided to get while the getting
was good, and went "town hunting".   Both decided on a more pastoral
life in
Central and East Tennessee.  Then, the crushing news.   Both families,
including our four grandsons, would be moving after the school year ended,
most likely in June.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 23 10:13:04 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video
Message-ID: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yo Ed,
   
  Thanks for all the information on your site. 
  This is for those non believers about tire dates.

AGED TIRES: A DRIVING HAZARD?    

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897    

I used this link to prove a point - 

I just had a set of tires put on my truck and had to fight with

the tire dealer to take them back off. The date code said they 

were 5 years old. They looked like any other new tire. 

Vigil

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Jun 23 10:16:26 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:16:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video
In-Reply-To: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <062320081616.22140.485FCC5A0005B5CF0000567C22228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:
Hope neither of you got hurt.
 -------------- Original message from <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>: --------------
had to fight with the tire dealer to take them back off. The date code said they 
were 5 years old. They looked like any other new tire. 

From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com  Mon Jun 23 12:12:43 2008
From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:12:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>

Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
octane??  Thanks for your feedback.

Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 23 12:25:19 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
Message-ID: <25726307.1214245519947.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They are throwing money out their tail-pipe most likely if they use the higher grade.  Take a look at your owners manual and if it says to run 87, then that is all that you need.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
>Sent: Jun 23, 2008 2:12 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, HealeyMail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
>
>Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
>Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
>with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
>apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
>Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
>octane??  Thanks for your feedback.
>
>Jack Brashear, PE
>Project Manager /  Water
>
>Garver Engineers
>Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
>Mobile: 501-352-8890
>E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 12:38:52 2008
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:38:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <003d01c8d560$63ad2f10$0301a8c0@DELL>

It's got knock sensors, so if it does knock the 'puter will back off on the 
boost and/or timing.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "HealeyMail List" 
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S


> Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
> Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
> with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
> apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
> Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
> octane??  Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Jack Brashear, PE
> Project Manager /  Water
>
> Garver Engineers
> Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
> Mobile: 501-352-8890
> E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 23 12:45:32 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 18:45:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
Message-ID: <BAY112-F356E7DABE48C4076840EADB8A60@phx.gbl>

Do you figure this is what the Saudi's are trying to discourage by pumping 
more oil? :)

http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/06/23/mccain-battery.html

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 12:58:15 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:58:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F356E7DABE48C4076840EADB8A60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F356E7DABE48C4076840EADB8A60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AC8E40B2-8ECB-48E7-9B3F-BDC4FDCFA89F@comcast.net>

Odd, this wasn't mentioned on CNN's site..

Lester


On Jun 23, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Do you figure this is what the Saudi's are trying to discourage by  
> pumping
> more oil? :)
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/06/23/mccain-battery.html
> _______________________________________________

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon Jun 23 13:11:27 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:11:27 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Can provide road support for LOTO in Oklahoma
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>
References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <48882.164.58.184.10.1214248287.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

Just wanted anyone to know that may be traveling to LOTO this week that I
can assist if you are in the OKC area (I-40/I-35) if you have trouble. 
Work gets in my fun sometimes but I will do what I can or find someone
that can if I can't.

Send me an email and I'll get you my contact information.  Looks like it
will be fun, I wish I could be there.

Charlie
OKC,OK

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 23 13:19:22 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F356E7DABE48C4076840EADB8A60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:  "Do you figure this is what the Saudi's are trying
to discourage by pumping more oil? :)
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/06/23/mccain-battery.html "

 

The great thing about this is that McCain would have the government pay hard
cash for RESULTS, not a bottomless pit of academic research that is not
required to actually produce any results.   What people don't understand is
that when the government gives a $1 million dollar grant to a university,
the university skims 40% right off the top to pay for its supposed
"overhead".   In reality, it has been my experience as a university fiscal
officer that the 40% is used to pay for unrelated faculty travel (e.g. to
adopt a baby in Romania), (literally) wine and cheese parties, unrelated
faculty luxuries, and a myriad of unrelated things the university could
never get away with if they tried to use State taxpayer money.

 

(Now, listen for the squeals and howls of protest from an academic community
that earns well over $100,000 a year and is required (by union contract) to
teach no more than 9 hours per week for 30 weeks a year, and not required to
hold office hours for students or give any academic advising to students.)

 

Buster

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 13:29:56 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weather for LotO / MG2008
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0806221101i2fcb696fj7892817295319558@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0806220925u3638d7f8x35598ac424f4e6a1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b777e2be0806221101i2fcb696fj7892817295319558@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806231229x56cccbc9yaac41cbd0e5dc228@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/22/08, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>    <SNIP!>    Hook
> one lead to the stud where the power cable attaches and the other lead to
> the body of the started and depending on your car's ground ( + or - )
> appropriately touch to a good battery. If it spins you can cross the
> starter
> off your list.


Probably best to make the hard connections at the battery and then momentary
test connections at the starter.  That would keep any probable sparks away
from the battery.

I saw a battery virtually explode years ago in my great-uncle's car and have
always used the utmost of caution since.  Only has to happen once to make
for a really bad day!  Luckilly I was a safe distance away - my dad's cousin
and his dad were splashed with acid as the battery case split open.

From miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Jun 23 13:40:08 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:40:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
In-Reply-To: <25726307.1214245519947.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <25726307.1214245519947.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8CAA380140665E7-4FC-1185@webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com>

Page 99 of the owners manual for my '06 MCS indicates a minimum of 91 octane being required. Being a a firm believer in following manufacturer's recommendations, especially on a new car under warranty, I've used nothing but 91 in mine....but that's just me. 

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
To: Brashear,Jack,N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>; Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>; HealeyMail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S



They are throwing money out their tail-pipe most likely if they use the higher 
grade.  Take a look at your owners manual and if it says to run 87, then that is 
all that you need.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
>Sent: Jun 23, 2008 2:12 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, HealeyMail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
>
>Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
>Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
>with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
>apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
>Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
>octane??  Thanks for your feedback.
>
>Jack Brashear, PE
>Project Manager /  Water
>
>Garver Engineers
>Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
>Mobile: 501-352-8890
>E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com
>_______________________________________________
>

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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 13:53:08 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:53:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CF890D00-30C9-4B5A-9747-66486B7D85C8@comcast.net>

Which university and do they have any open positions in the sciences??

Lester


On Jun 23, 2008, at 2:19 PM, B- Evans wrote:

> Robert Duquette wrote:  "Do you figure this is what the Saudi's are  
> trying
> to discourage by pumping more oil? :)
> http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/06/23/mccain-battery.html "
>
>
>
> The great thing about this is that McCain would have the government  
> pay hard
> cash for RESULTS, not a bottomless pit of academic research that is  
> not
> required to actually produce any results.   What people don't  
> understand is
> that when the government gives a $1 million dollar grant to a  
> university,
> the university skims 40% right off the top to pay for its supposed
> "overhead".   In reality, it has been my experience as a university  
> fiscal
> officer that the 40% is used to pay for unrelated faculty travel  
> (e.g. to
> adopt a baby in Romania), (literally) wine and cheese parties,  
> unrelated
> faculty luxuries, and a myriad of unrelated things the university  
> could
> never get away with if they tried to use State taxpayer money.
>
>
>
> (Now, listen for the squeals and howls of protest from an academic  
> community
> that earns well over $100,000 a year and is required (by union  
> contract) to
> teach no more than 9 hours per week for 30 weeks a year, and not  
> required to
> hold office hours for students or give any academic advising to  
> students.)
>
>
>
> Buster

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Jun 23 14:18:55 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:18:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <BAY112-F356E7DABE48C4076840EADB8A60@phx.gbl>
	<E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <062320082018.14400.4860052E000E45A90000384022230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

And also, get us into another war or two.
 -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: --------------

> The great thing about this is that McCain would have the government pay hard cash for RESULTS, 

> Buster 

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Mon Jun 23 14:38:12 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:38:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Help checking car in Los Angeles
Message-ID: <01b001c8d571$0e4e6aa0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    Please reply direct to Nick.   CB


----- Original Message -----
From: nickzarkades at comcast.net
To: Healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:12 PM
Subject: [Healeys] Help checking car in Los Angeles


I am interest in a Bugeye in the Los Angeles area. Need someone to go between,
check car and then when the car is picked up to present check to owner (I
would send check ). With all the car scams on the internet I am trying not to
be one. Willing to pay for service.

Thanks,
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 23 14:55:48 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 123 Ignition expert
Message-ID: <488652.10544.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm about ready to go nuts...I cannot get my new build static timed right. It's a 1275, Kent 256 cam, adjustable timing gear, 123 Distributor.

When #1 is at TDC (both valves for #1 at rest, timing notch centered on marks, loads of compression at plug hole), and I've rotated the distributor until the green light comes on, the rotor appears to be just past the #1 contact in the distributor cap. 

I've tried to manually rotate the distributor to align rotor and contact to get it to run, but it won't go.

I'm hugely frustrated. What should I try?

Joe

0 miles on Sprite since July 4, 2006.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 23 15:13:00 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video
In-Reply-To: <062320081616.22140.485FCC5A0005B5CF0000567C22228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <806935.90424.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for asking - 
   
  No one was hurt - i was going slow on a side road when the tread came off. I went back to the dealer one week later. He was having a problem with replacing them. We looked at most of the stock and they all were made in 03 & 04 except the new style sport car tires. i finally got him to have a set shipped from the warehouse after they checked the date codes. Got a set from 07 now. King of scary - i only got a week and they looked new - even had the little rubber hairs. They were on a 3/4 ton truck so i always buy the best tires. This is the first time i have had a tire fail that i just bought new.
   
  Vigil

tinydog at snet.net wrote:
  tinydog sez:
Hope neither of you got hurt.
-------------- Original message from : --------------
had to fight with the tire dealer to take them back off. The date code said they 
were 5 years old. They looked like any other new tire. 
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 15:40:22 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:40:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 123 Ignition expert
In-Reply-To: <488652.10544.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <488652.10544.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0369C719-26C7-41B1-8826-2FB7279F40CB@comcast.net>

Are you using a pertronix or something?  There are two ways a set of  
points could do that:

1.	Points are not mounted in the right holes (wrong points)

2.	Rotor is not fully mounted in its hole (or wrong rotor)

the third possibility is a rebuilt dizzy with the plate not mounted  
where it should be which would disturb the relationship between the  
rotor and the points.

Lester

.. had this happen when using the pertornix unit on a 2 stroke and it  
took a while to figure out that I was getting fire just when the  
rotor was between contacts on the cap!


On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Joe Lansing wrote:

> I'm about ready to go nuts...I cannot get my new build static timed  
> right. It's a 1275, Kent 256 cam, adjustable timing gear, 123  
> Distributor.
>
> When #1 is at TDC (both valves for #1 at rest, timing notch  
> centered on marks, loads of compression at plug hole), and I've  
> rotated the distributor until the green light comes on, the rotor  
> appears to be just past the #1 contact in the distributor cap.
>
> I've tried to manually rotate the distributor to align rotor and  
> contact to get it to run, but it won't go.
>
> I'm hugely frustrated. What should I try?
>
> Joe
>
> 0 miles on Sprite since July 4, 2006.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jun 23 16:34:40 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:34:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need Spridget part
Message-ID: <007801c8d581$542a60a0$01fea8c0@C600>

I am in desperate need of the little goody that goes on top of the distributor
of a 1275 and can be twisted for the vacuum advance.  I have no idea how, but
it somehow fell off and got lost.

Please e-mail me with price and availability.  Shipping extra, of course.

Thanks,

Kate

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 23 16:37:14 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:37:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <C48573AA.17DB4%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

If you run higher octane, the computer won't retard your timing and you'll
get a little bit better performance, but it won't hurt anything to run
regular.

From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 23 19:28:28 2008
From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:28:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
References: <25726307.1214245519947.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<8CAA380140665E7-4FC-1185@webmailbeta-m08.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c8d599$9b907f70$eff6f904@D1PWFG61>

As I stated.  You should follow the owners manual on what octane to use.

Mike C
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: miniac7 at aol.com
  To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com ; JNBrashear at garverengineers.com ;
spridgets at autox.team.net ; healeys at autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S


  Page 99 of the owners manual for my '06 MCS indicates a minimum of 91 octane
being required. Being a a firm believer in following manufacturer's
recommendations, especially on a new car under warranty, I've used nothing but
91 in mine....but that's just me.

  Howard Collins
  Virginia Beach, VA.


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
  To: Brashear,Jack,N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>; Spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; HealeyMail List <healeys at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 2:25 pm
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S


They are throwing money out their tail-pipe most likely if they use the higher
grade.  Take a look at your owners manual and if it says to run 87, then that
is
all that you need.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Brashear, Jack, N" <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
>Sent: Jun 23, 2008 2:12 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, HealeyMail List
<healeys at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
>
>Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
>Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
>with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
>apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
>Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
>octane??  Thanks for your feedback.
>
>Jack Brashear, PE
>Project Manager /  Water
>
>Garver Engineers
>Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
>Mobile: 501-352-8890
>E-mail: jnbrashear at garverengineers.com
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 19:32:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:32:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The Orkins Trip to Missouri
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806231832i174e7530k6b87209a6f3ccebb@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Just got this from my home club, Peachtree MG in Georgia...   Thought you
all might find it fun and interesting.  We'll see Jack and Kathy in a few
days!!

Cheers!!
Jim

Follow along with Jack and Kathy as they make their way to Missouri and
back.

A note from Jack:


Kathy and I are leaving Tues. the 24th for the 50th anniversary celebration
of the Austin Healy Sprite/MG Midget in Osage Beach, MO. Some may think its
crazy to drive halfway across the country in a car not much bigger than a
bathtub, but we are looking at it more as an adventure.

If you want to follow us on our journey, starting Tues. we will be leaving
commentary and pictures as often as possible at the following website:
http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=&mode=tlist&subject=110

We may not bring back Socrates, but it should be excellent. Party on!

Jack.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Jun 23 19:34:25 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Siamese Twins & A Beer
Message-ID: <5400637F47204DA7847026D832B6CEA4@Dell9200>

Siamese twins walk into a pub  in Ontario and park themselves on a bar 
stool.  One of them says to the Bar tender, 'Don't mind us, were joined at
the hip.  I'm John, he's Jim.  Two Molson Canadian beers, draft please'.

The bartender, feeling slightly awkward, tries to make polite conversation 
while pouring the beers.  'Been on holiday yet, lads?'

'Off to  England next month,' says John.  'We go to England every year and 
hire a car and drive for miles, don't we, Jim?'  Jim agrees.

'Ah, England !' says the Bar tender.  'Wonderful country... the  history, 
the beer, the culture...'

'Nah, we don't like that British stuff,' says John.  ' Hamburgers & Molsons 
beer, that's us, eh Jim?

And we can't stand the  English  - ..'

'So why keep going to England ?' asks the Bar tender.

'It's the only chance Jim gets to drive.'



Heading out to LoTO in the morning, see ya'll there!

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 19:39:30 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:39:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Off to LotO
Message-ID: <48605052.8020408@comcast.net>

We head out at 6am Tuesday, first stop somewhere near Pittsburgh to drop 
off a hard top.
We hope to make Indianapolis before we stop for the night.
A mere  725 miles or 12 hour drive in a Sprite at 75 mph.
So with pit stops, We should see Indy around 9 pm.

This leaves a 420 mile drive on Wednesday or 8 hours with stops so the 
whole gang of us should be there at Beer Thirty!
I have most of the goody bag stuff, so you guys can't start without me ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 19:44:00 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] We're here!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806231844o663ad11doe031818ac45e87d2@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Carolyn, myself and the two fur kids arrived at the Inn at Grand Glaize
about 5:20 pm CDT this afternoon. I had a number of phone calls along the
way and we have two more late registrations and, sadly, one cancellation.
Jay Mers arrived from North Carolina this evening driving his BE. Jack and
Kathy Orkin leave from Georgia tomorrow and will be posting their adventure
to a website.  I'll link to it from our web page for those who want to live
vicariously!  Should get the link up by tomorrow morning.

The Midget rode comfortably behind the Chevy PU and is now in the parking
lot and covered for the night (no top!) Beautiful weather here...  high
around 82 today and no sign of flooding. or any water problems. The lake is
beautiful.

See you all in a couple of days!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim & Carolyn - 68 "Spridget" in Osage Beach

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun 23 21:55:05 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:55:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
References: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <02aa01c8d5ae$16f9e200$6501a8c0@shop>

<<(Now, listen for the squeals and howls of protest from an academic community that earns well over $100,000 a year and is required (by union contract) to teach no more than 9 hours per week for 30 weeks a year, and not required to hold office hours for students or give any academic advising to students.)>>

Ling & CRYING MAO, Buster!!!

You getting my mails?????

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 21:27:51 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <02aa01c8d5ae$16f9e200$6501a8c0@shop>
References: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<02aa01c8d5ae$16f9e200$6501a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>

Watching St. Louis news tonight.  They're reporting the investigation  
of investors in oil futures and blaming them for the high retail price  
of gas.  Also stating that if the futures traders activity is  
curtailed that the pump price of gasoline could be cut in half within  
several weeks.

Anyone wanna bet on this happening?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
bugi1960 at gmail.com	







On Jun 23, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Ed's Shop wrote:

> <<(Now, listen for the squeals and howls of protest from an academic  
> community that earns well over $100,000 a year and is required (by  
> union contract) to teach no more than 9 hours per week for 30 weeks  
> a year, and not required to hold office hours for students or give  
> any academic advising to students.)>>
>
> Ling & CRYING MAO, Buster!!!
>
> You getting my mails?????
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 23 22:52:51 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:52:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1KB0WL-0003wE-6q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Phil Nase wrote:  "They're reporting the investigation  of investors in oil
futures and blaming them for the high retail price  of gas.  Also stating
that if the futures traders activity is  curtailed that the pump price of
gasoline could be cut in half within  several weeks."

 

I am afraid, Phil, that this "speculator" rubbish is just that.  Obama got
that dumb assed bogeyman started when he needed a strawman to attack;  one
that made sense to those who don't want to make the effort to look deeper at
the issue of gas prices

 

Buster.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 23 23:04:09 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:04:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
References: <E1KArZM-0001LM-GB@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net><02aa01c8d5ae$16f9e200$6501a8c0@shop>
	<C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <015101c8d5b7$bc951f00$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

All bets are off, some of those future traders are over seas, like in the 
Middle East and Asia.
We cannot regulate or curtail them, which is probably a good thing, since 
future traders perform
a vital function in the economy, that is they help  prevent rapid jumps in 
prices.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Nase" <bugi1960 at gmail.com>
To: "net Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )


> Watching St. Louis news tonight.  They're reporting the investigation
> of investors in oil futures and blaming them for the high retail price
> of gas.  Also stating that if the futures traders activity is
> curtailed that the pump price of gasoline could be cut in half within
> several weeks.
>
> Anyone wanna bet on this happening?
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
> bugi1960 at gmail.com

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 24 04:29:38 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:29:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EB0E03@glitas07.garverinc.local>
Message-ID: <774769.32675.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Apparently the cheap gas made your left pedal fall out from under the dash -
toss the car as it's ruined now.
 - David

--- On Mon, 6/23/08, Brashear, Jack, N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
wrote:

From: Brashear, Jack, N <JNBrashear at garverengineers.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "HealeyMail List"
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 1:12 PM

Hi All.  I bought a 2006 MC S automatic when it had 10,300 miles on it.
Now it has nearly 20 grand.  The PO said she had always used 87 octane
with no problems.  Soooo, I have continued using 87 octane with no
apparent problems.  Recently I've had folks tell me to use 91+ octane.
Why??  Am I damaging anything by using the lower (and cheaper) 87
octane??  Thanks for your feedback.

Jack Brashear, PE
Project Manager /  Water

Garver Engineers
Office: 501-376-3633 Ext. 402
Mobile: 501-352-8890
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From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Jun 24 05:10:58 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:10:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KB0WL-0003wE-6q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>
	<E1KB0WL-0003wE-6q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <062420081110.21446.4860D64200010AFC000053C622230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 Like President Cheney and VP Bush
 -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: --------------

one that made sense to those who don't want to make the effort to look deeper at the issue of gas prices

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 24 06:25:35 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:25:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Siamese Twins & A Beer*
Message-ID: <062420081225.15997.4860E7BF0004C33000003E7D2216549976C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hey guys--not to sound dumb, but just WHERE is the LotO that has been discussed recently.  I returned to the list, I think, after the thread started and although there has been a lot of discussion about it, I haven't seen an email suggesting where it will be.  Spridgets only?  Can't leave right now, but just interested in where everyone is going.  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
> Siamese twins walk into a pub  in Ontario and park themselves on a bar 
> stool.  One of them says to the Bar tender, 'Don't mind us, were joined at
> the hip.  I'm John, he's Jim.  Two Molson Canadian beers, draft please'.
> 
> The bartender, feeling slightly awkward, tries to make polite conversation 
> while pouring the beers.  'Been on holiday yet, lads?'
> 
> 'Off to  England next month,' says John.  'We go to England every year and 
> hire a car and drive for miles, don't we, Jim?'  Jim agrees.
> 
> 'Ah, England !' says the Bar tender.  'Wonderful country... the  history, 
> the beer, the culture...'
> 
> 'Nah, we don't like that British stuff,' says John.  ' Hamburgers & Molsons 
> beer, that's us, eh Jim?
> 
> And we can't stand the  English  - ..'
> 
> 'So why keep going to England ?' asks the Bar tender.
> 
> 'It's the only chance Jim gets to drive.'
> 
> 
> 
> Heading out to LoTO in the morning, see ya'll there!
> 
> Mark
> Nashville
> http://www.arrestmered.com
> 58 "Bugeye"
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 24 06:26:49 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:26:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F348286BFF6C2A4FB34FEDEB8A10@phx.gbl>

Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but it shouldn't happen.  Should the stock 
market be 'controlled'?  I don't think so.  I think that is a dumb idea.  
Something about freedom.  On the face of it, I think that we ( especially 
you, Canada is an exporter of oil ) have to reduce demand and that will 
affect how the investors act.  I don't follow USian politics closely and I 
really don't want this to turn into a partisan mud slinging contest, but I 
think that McCain is right and Obama is wrong, if what is written in that 
article is correct.  I would guess that the investors in oil futures have 
heard what McCain has said and are pondering his chances of getting in to 
decide whether to sell or hold or buy ( or whatever it is that people with 
money do! :) ).


----Original Message Follows----
From: Phil Nase <bugi1960 at gmail.com>

Watching St. Louis news tonight.  They're reporting the investigation
of investors in oil futures and blaming them for the high retail price
of gas.  Also stating that if the futures traders activity is
curtailed that the pump price of gasoline could be cut in half within
several weeks.

Anyone wanna bet on this happening?

Phil Nase

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 24 06:37:29 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:37:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <062420081110.21446.4860D64200010AFC000053C622230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36359C6282CA3B337DFB58B8A10@phx.gbl>

Don't they have a lot of money in oil?  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: tinydog at snet.net

Like President Cheney and VP Bush

  -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: 
--------------

one that made sense to those who don't want to make the effort to look 
deeper at the issue of gas prices

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 24 08:13:02 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:13:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Can provide road support for LOTO in Oklahoma
Message-ID: <062420081413.3013.486100EE0001FA4000000BC52215575474C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Same here if you come through East Tennessee around Knoxville.  I live about 20 miles north of Knoxville.   I work on Wednesdays but am retired so will be around most of the other time through the weekend. Home Phone--865-494-0734.


--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: shelden3 at pldi.net
> Just wanted anyone to know that may be traveling to LOTO this week that I
> can assist if you are in the OKC area (I-40/I-35) if you have trouble. 
> Work gets in my fun sometimes but I will do what I can or find someone
> that can if I can't.
> 
> Send me an email and I'll get you my contact information.  Looks like it
> will be fun, I wish I could be there.
> 
> Charlie
> OKC,OK
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Jun 24 09:10:25 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:10:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F348286BFF6C2A4FB34FEDEB8A10@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F348286BFF6C2A4FB34FEDEB8A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FF358F0B-0DF6-4351-85F7-A9A10BBFEBE0@mac.com>

Robert,

I think what we are looking at here is capitalism vs socialism.  It  
seems to me that too many people have for gotten that the USA is/was/ 
suppose to be a capitalistic republic.  This is just history not an  
opinion - - we were founded on free trade and a government by  
representation.  It seems to me that in recent times (my life time)  
that we have forgotten (are not being taught) that we are not a  
democracy  but a democratic republic. and there is a big difference  
and heaven forbid that we say that we are capitalistic.  Just my two  
cents.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 24, 2008, at 5:26 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but it shouldn't happen.  Should  
> the stock
> market be 'controlled'?  I don't think so.  I think that is a dumb  
> idea.
> Something about freedom.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 24 10:50:47 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:50:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
Message-ID: <d1c.28389700.35927fe7@aol.com>

Does the manual explain which method of calculating the octane rating they  
used in making their recommendation?
 
In a message dated 24/06/2008 02:28:47 GMT Daylight Time,  
MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com writes:

As I  stated.  You should follow the owners manual on what octane to  use.

Mike C

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 24 11:04:03 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:04:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget blowing oil when jacked up...???
Message-ID: <4860C693.31495.9BCFC1@dmg.bossig.com>

I couldn't think of a better way to describe what happened....
When the beast is straight and level, engine runs OK with no smoke after 
the initial fire-up...
Yesterday, I had the back jacked up (only the back - wheels about 18" off 
the ground) to set the rear brakes..
While up on the jackstands, I fired up the engine and it blew blue (oil) 
smoke !!!
Back on the level, no smoke... !!

Anyone have a good explanation why this happens??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jun 24 11:09:46 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:09:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
In-Reply-To: <d1c.28389700.35927fe7@aol.com>
References: <d1c.28389700.35927fe7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CAA4343D00577B-11F4-1584@webmailbeta-m07.sysops.aol.com>

Yes it does, and it states: 

" Minimum Octane Rating corresponds to the Anti Knock Index (AKI) and is determined?according to the so-called (R+M) /2 method."

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.


-----Original Message-----
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com
To: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com; JNBrashear at garverengineers.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net; Miniac7 at aol.com
Sent: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S




Does the manual explain which method of calculating the octane rating they used in making their recommendation?

?

In a message dated 24/06/2008 02:28:47 GMT Daylight Time, MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com writes:

As I stated.? You should follow the owners manual on what octane to use.

Mike C





?

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 24 11:16:16 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:16:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget blowing oil when jacked up...???
In-Reply-To: <4860C693.31495.9BCFC1@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <4860C693.31495.9BCFC1@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080624121344.03a1e568@nosimport.com>

If you have a 1275 type timing cover with the vent spigot going to 
the intake manifold, I wouldn't worry.

If you have the plain unvented timing cover I'd have to give it more 
thought, ....   Maybe examine rockerarm bushings, etc.

         Peter C.
=
At 12:04 PM 6/24/2008, Dave G. wrote:
>I couldn't think of a better way to describe what happened....
>When the beast is straight and level, engine runs OK with no smoke after
>the initial fire-up...
>Yesterday, I had the back jacked up (only the back - wheels about 18" off
>the ground) to set the rear brakes..
>While up on the jackstands, I fired up the engine and it blew blue (oil)
>smoke !!!
>Back on the level, no smoke... !!
>
>Anyone have a good explanation why this happens??
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Jun 24 13:02:46 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:02:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] nearly there!!
Message-ID: <200806241902.m5OJ2kD4017105@diometes.ucdavis.edu>

I'm in Dodge City one day too late to see Jim, but lunch at the Applebys 
and free wifi at the Dodge City Library will pass the heat of the 
afternoon and I'll continue on at least to Wichita.  I finally put the 
top up this morning and will leave it up for the rest of the miles.  The 
sun beating down on me for the last three days has been brutal.
But the car is still running great and getting great mileage to boot.

See you,

Glen Byrns

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Jun 24 13:22:48 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:22:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget blowing oil when jacked up...???
In-Reply-To: <4860C693.31495.9BCFC1@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <20080624192239.3C45C187668@autox.team.net>

Because you jacked up the rear end?????????????
		Crash


Anyone have a good explanation why this happens??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Jun 24 13:51:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:51:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget blowing oil when jacked up...???
References: <20080624192239.3C45C187668@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4CABFEFB6C2641C9A50B8F588CB0B0F5@NilesAD.von.gov>

>> Anyone have a good explanation why this happens??

> Because you jacked up the rear end?????????????

Yes, NEVER drive a Spridget downhill ;-)

From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Jun 24 14:00:31 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:00:31 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Handbrake Redux
Message-ID: <20080624.130031.2468.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

I will explain what I did to attain 'adjustability' with the handbrake on my
'67 Sprite (of dubious parentage).

First, I replaced the lever assembly with a used unit 'cuz the old one was
frozen solid.  I replaced the cable with a new unit from Moss.

I then discovered that I had to use all of the adjustment to get any brake at
all.

I examined the whole setup and figured that the replacement cable units may be
longer than the stock part; it doesn't take much to use up the adjustment.
More importantly, the cross links seem to be longer than they are supposed to
be.  When I disconnected the cable and turned the bellcrank with pliers, I
could hardly get enough pull to set the brakes.  I figured that the holes in
the rods, bellcrank and brake levers are worn and the slack was killing me.

To make adjustable replacement rods:

I got much of this stuff from McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com), some from
local hardware stores.  The rod ends were about $7 each.

Note that the ends of the stock rods are not in the same plane.

The bellcrank pins are 3/16" diam. and the brake lever pins are 1/4" diam.  I
re-used the stock pins.

I got two pieces of 1/4" stainless tubing from my junk pile, cut them to 24"
and 12" and deburred.

I tapped the ends 10-32, about 1/2" deep.

I bought two ball joint rod ends with 3/16" holes and 10-32 male threaded
shanks (MMC part 59915K271), and two clevis rod ends with female 10-32 threads
and 3/16" mouth (MMC part 6071K11).  These clevices were only available with
3/16" pin holes, so I reamed the holes out to 1/4".

I used two 10-32 socket head set screws (with loc-tite) to make 'male'
fittings out of these.

I put nuts on all four of the rod ends and screwed them into the tube pieces.

I took all of the adjustment out of the cable at the bellcrank.

I secured one end of each rod to the brake levers with the original 1/4" pins
through the clevices.

Then I put the swivel joint rod ends into the slots in the bellcrank, screwing
them in/out until the 3/16" pin holes lined up with no tension or pressure on
any of the linkage.  Then I installed the pins.  I ran the lock nuts down
against the ends of the tubing at both ends.  This secures all the parts of
the linkage.  Don't forget new cotter pins in the swivel pin ends.

After this, I took up the adjuster about one turn and I was done.  Handbrake
pulls up snug about 30 degrees above horizontal.

I have another project in the works to change the ratchet pawl to make it work
as a "fly-off" handbrake making 'bootleg turns' ever so much more fun.  Stay
tuned.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite



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From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Jun 24 14:19:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:19:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] nearly there!!
In-Reply-To: <200806241902.m5OJ2kD4017105@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200806241902.m5OJ2kD4017105@diometes.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <4860F459.5954.14E9D70@dmg.bossig.com>

Glen,

I can understand your boot getting good mileage... <G>
What's theSpridget getting...??

On 24 Jun 2008 at 12:02, Glen Byrns wrote:
>> But the car is still running great and getting great mileage to boot


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Jun 24 14:32:41 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:32:41 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Handbrake Redux
In-Reply-To: <20080624.130031.2468.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <062420082032.12464.486159E9000B3002000030B022218675169B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog asked:

What's the condition of your rear brakes?
 -------------- Original message from "cclabaw at juno.com" <cclabaw at juno.com>: --------------


> Listers -
> 
> I will explain what I did to attain 'adjustability' with the handbrake on my
> '67 Sprite (of dubious parentage).
> 
> First, I replaced the lever assembly with a used unit 'cuz the old one was
> frozen solid.  I replaced the cable with a new unit from Moss.
> 
> I then discovered that I had to use all of the adjustment to get any brake at
> all.
> 
> I examined the whole setup and figured that the replacement cable units may be
> longer than the stock part; it doesn't take much to use up the adjustment.
> More importantly, the cross links seem to be longer than they are supposed to
> be.  When I disconnected the cable and turned the bellcrank with pliers, I
> could hardly get enough pull to set the brakes.  I figured that the holes in
> the rods, bellcrank and brake levers are worn and the slack was killing me.
> 
> To make adjustable replacement rods: 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 24 14:58:36 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:58:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Handbrake Redux
Message-ID: <d57.1285576d.3592b9fc@aol.com>

I think you need to make a special part to do this and then have the metal  
rod bent differently to make it work. If you do a real nice job I might want 
one  for a 69.
 
Over here in the UK you cannot get wire wheel or steel wheel specific  
handbrake rods only a generic threaded set.  So, if wanted to save a lot of  
fabrication you can buy direct from Moss.  Cable issues aside wear in the  drums can 
cause a lot of slack.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 24/06/2008 21:03:02 GMT Daylight Time, cclabaw at juno.com  
writes:

I have  another project in the works to change the ratchet pawl to make it 
work
as  a "fly-off" handbrake making 'bootleg turns' ever so much more fun.   Stay
tuned.

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 15:07:09 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:07:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] octane needs for 2006 Mini Cooper S
In-Reply-To: <8CAA4343D00577B-11F4-1584@webmailbeta-m07.sysops.aol.com>
References: <d1c.28389700.35927fe7@aol.com>
	<8CAA4343D00577B-11F4-1584@webmailbeta-m07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0806241407r74c0ee74r3dbe219a4271bd90@mail.gmail.com>

How do you run the car? Do you drive it like you stole it? Do you just
putter along and rarely wind it out through the RPM range? If you drive it
easy, the low octane will not damage it. If you drive it hard on a regular
basis, I would give it the octane listed in the owner's manual. Most engines
don't require the octane at low RPMs. It is when you try to wring out the HP
and RPMs that it needs the good stuff.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:09 AM, <miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> Yes it does, and it states:
>
> " Minimum Octane Rating corresponds to the Anti Knock Index (AKI) and is
> determined?according to the so-called (R+M) /2 method."
>
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 24 15:44:05 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:44:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Healeys] Stolen  1968 Sprite
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080624164226.033ca998@nosimport.com>

Just passing along.  Though I'd have given Tom's contact info.
         Peter C
==
>X-Original-To: healeys at autox.team.net
>Greetings
>
>Last evening a 1968 Red Sprite with black interior was stolen from
>Tom Householder's shop in Lancaster, Ohio. It has minor rear end
>damage and the license-plate light broken off.  The serial number
>of this Sprite is HAN9U76371G.  Please contact Tom and the
>nearest police department if you come across this vehicle.
>
>Kind regards
>Ed
>AHCUSA Historian
>Saskatoon

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 24 17:31:10 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:31:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Message-ID: <003001c8d652$6449ce40$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

One of the original brochures for the Sprite states the following:

"Compact and 'clean', the body of the 'Sprite' is first completely
immersed in in a rust-inhibiting compound before receiving its
finishing coats of high-lustre enamel, thus ensuring long, trouble-free
life."

Questions :
What was the rust inhibitor they dipped it in?
What kind of enamel was used?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 24 18:29:28 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <003001c8d652$6449ce40$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1KBIt0-0005QW-Lp@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:  " What was the rust inhibitor they dipped it in?   What
kind of enamel was used?"

 

1.      Red lead primer

2.      The kind of enamel you can't get no more!

 

Buster

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 18:30:09 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:30:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KB0WL-0003wE-6q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <C2E0A869-7ABD-4F38-8BBC-B2C7937583B3@gmail.com>
	<E1KB0WL-0003wE-6q@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <441250190806241730x5f72d204je459385f052b7500@mail.gmail.com>

Is it rubbish?
Check out http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/052008Masters.pdf
Is this testimony before the US Senate correct, bias, or complete rubbish?
If the laws have been changed to allow more money into the market I smell
another Resolution Trust.  It seems when Wall Street works to make money
when the laws change it bites the US in the butt.

-g

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:52 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Phil Nase wrote:  "They're reporting the investigation  of investors in oil
> futures and blaming them for the high retail price  of gas.  Also stating
> that if the futures traders activity is  curtailed that the pump price of
> gasoline could be cut in half within  several weeks."
>
>
>
> I am afraid, Phil, that this "speculator" rubbish is just that.  Obama got
> that dumb assed bogeyman started when he needed a strawman to attack;  one
> that made sense to those who don't want to make the effort to look deeper
> at
> the issue of gas prices
>
>
>
> Buster.
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 24 18:35:06 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:35:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <E1KBIt0-0005QW-Lp@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000501c8d65b$55f69310$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Would that be Dulux enamel?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: B- Evans
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Dean Hedin wrote:  " What was the rust inhibitor they dipped it in?   What 
kind of enamel was used?"

1.      Red lead primer
2.      The kind of enamel you can't get no more!

Buster

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun 24 19:55:36 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (pythias at pacifier.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] almost there
Message-ID: <1472.71.31.213.210.1214358936.squirrel@webmail.iinet.com>

hey,

     We're in Nebraska City , Nebraska tonite.. should make  osage beach
tomorrow afternoon...

Bill L. and Bill M.

1700 miles down, 300 to go!

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 24 20:52:49 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <E1KBIt0-0005QW-Lp@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KBIt0-0005QW-Lp@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8B0319F7-B694-48F0-B977-348CA9A009E8@gmail.com>

The good kind is right.  Some parts for my car were repainted over the  
original.  The newer paint blasted right off with glass bead.  The  
original is tough stuff to remove.

Jane and I arrived at Osage Beach today and met Jim Johnson and Jack  
Laird and their wives.  We had a nice dinner and I even got to speak  
to Buster on the phone when he called Jim.  There is one other Bugeye  
in the lot and haven't yet met the owners.

We're looking forward to  meeting a lot more folks tomorrow.  It's hot  
and humid but it's June.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
bugi1960 at gmail.com	







On Jun 24, 2008, at 8:29 PM, B- Evans wrote:

>  " What was the rust inhibitor they dipped it in?   What
> kind of enamel was used?"
>
>
>
> 1.      Red lead primer
>
> 2.      The kind of enamel you can't get no more!
>
>
>
> Buster
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 24 22:23:54 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:23:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <441250190806241730x5f72d204je459385f052b7500@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1KBMXz-0004IH-Ln@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Bill Gilroy wrote:  "Is it rubbish? "

 

Before getting too carried away with this, yes, rubbish, to which you
directed, you should make yourself a little more aware of Michael W.
Masters, his biases, his known background (or lack thereof), the Committee
on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and its membership, and just
why Masters testified before it.

 

Masters is the "managing member" of Masters Capital Management, a small
outfit down in Christiansted, Virgin Islands.   His performance does not
even rise to the level of "lackluster".  Anyone who might have invested with
him has lost their shirt this year, as he held onto losing stock, including
the airlines.   ELEVEN of the 14 stocks in his portfolio not only lost
money, but flushed it down the toilet by losing 50, 60, up to 75% of their
value!   Even *my* dinky little portfolio is stellar in comparison.

 

Now, just what is Masters' record, education, expertise, or insight that
makes him worthy of testifying before a Senate panel?   Who knows?  It has
not be found.   Well, not exactly.  It is known that he was in league with
that esteemed congressman from the Great State of New Yawk, Charley Rangel.
In 2007, Rangel introduced a tax "reform" that would put massive hikes on
couples earning over $200,000, and on businesses and industry.   Masters, a
big money donor Democrats in general and to Rangel in particular, was
beneficiary of a little noted provision of the bill that would *require*
that the IRS cease and desist tax audits on certain individuals in the
Virgin Islands.   One of those who benefited?  None other than the good Mr.
Masters.   (Note for the record:  Congress almost never, ever meddles in the
political hot potato of IRS audits!)

 

But why would the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental
Affairs have Masters testify before it about commodity speculators?   That
hardly fits into the committee's responsibility for Homeoland Security or
Governmental Affairs.   Hmmm.   Two reasons:

 

1.	Masters was NOT asked to testify, he ASKED the committee to testify
on a matter outside its scope.
2.	Who was on the committee?   Why none other than Illinois Senator
Barak Obama.

 

Voila, Obama suddenly has a new campaign issue with already prepared attacks
ready to be launched.  All provided by timely congressional "testimony" just
coincidently given by a Democratic backer who ASKED to make it public in
their limelight.

 

Those interested in more on the subject of "speculators" might want to read
an arti8cle in The Times of London Wednesday edition:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article4207213.ece

http://tinyurl.com/43o9so

 

Buster

(I believe in Santa Claus, not the Tooth Fairy.)

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 24 22:46:39 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:46:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <000501c8d65b$55f69310$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1KBMu0-0007hm-Va@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedlin wrote:  "Would that be Dulux enamel?"

 

I am not sure of the brand, but it was a cellulose paint, and for
environmental reasons, that is no longer available.   The paint "code" is
easily found (my Old English White, for example is WT3).   However, those
codes are meaningless without knowing the formula.   The problem with most
"modern" paints is that they just don't look "right" to those who owned the
cars when they were new.  They are, as I believe someone remarked,
"plastic".   (I wonder how concours rules treat the paint on restored cars.)

 

I was very fortunate when I was getting ready to have my Bugeye painted
before the BusterCluster.   I was not having any luck finding a paint shop
until I checked the local MAACO.   They were fantastic.   They worked and
worked trying to get a match to the original OEW.  They even had the DuPont
paint labs involved.   Frank Clarici gave them some hints, and we were able
to remove the tail light assembly to use some virgin paint as a guide.  They
had mixed of three separate "final" formulae before they hit the jackpot
with a perfect match.   But, I was very fortunate in finding a shop owner
who enjoyed a challenge, and a shop estimator who owned a Bugeye in the
early 1960's, and to this day regrets selling it (or rather, having his
ex-wife grab it!)

 

Buster 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 24 22:59:23 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:59:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <8B0319F7-B694-48F0-B977-348CA9A009E8@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1KBN6L-00038L-Hb@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Phil Nase wrote:  "I even got to speak to Buster on the phone when he called
Jim."

 

Well, hot snot!  I hope you had finished your dinner by then.   Or did you
barf just listening to him?

 

Silas P. Gumbody

International Frogeye Expert

Bald Knob, Arkansas

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Jun 24 23:10:49 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:10:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
Message-ID: <A3D8A858-59AB-4841-B9CC-207FFF8D6B71@phillymgclub.com>

To All that are attending the Spridget 50th in LOTO, I just want to  
say, Hope you have a good time!!! Since I went to school about 40  
miles from there in Fayetteville, AR, I know what weather you have Hot  
and Humid. Drink lots o' water during the day and tip a cold one back  
for me at night.

Remember the bugs down there are bigger than the Bugeyes!!!

Keep the list (and me, stuck in PA with 300 MGB's and 19 Midgets)  
informed and looking for pics. I will post some from MG 2008 as the  
week progresses.

Larry

PS I am wearing my Spridget 50th polo shirt to the Sat banquet here in  
protest ;-)
-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008
Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008
http://mg2008.com

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.







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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 00:18:43 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:18:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <E1KBMu0-0007hm-Va@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000901c8d68b$5267ed40$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

I don't think it was cellulose.  That would have been a lacquer, not an 
enamel.
The original brochure says enamel.

Tonight, after searching the web for hours I finally found the definitive 
answer,
confirming what I have suspected all along...
Right from the horses mouth. Owen McDonald.  Very good reading...
http://leylandp76.itgo.com/clubs/act/leylines25.pdf

It answers everything.  It tells you what the dip was and so much more.

Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine
modern substitute paint you can find right at your local hardware store
that should give you that original look and feel.

Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin.

Better known today as Rustoleum...
Hah!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 02:24:27 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:24:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Martha and I are off to LotO
Message-ID: <e98d88090806250124x40427a45qd5c84302fc08bc87@mail.gmail.com>

Hope to see some of you there!!!

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 25 04:36:10 2008
From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:36:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
In-Reply-To: <4860F459.5954.14E9D70@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <51957.35345.qm@web45706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'm faced with the task or replacing a leaking water bypass hose on my BE.
It's a small hose about 2" long that goes between the water pump and the front
end on the head.  Has anyone done this?  Do I need to remove the water pump or
is there some easy way to replace it?
 
Thanks for the help!
 
Jim in Homer Alaska

---

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 25 06:11:43 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
Message-ID: <19977645.1214395903375.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You can simply use a piece of 1/2 inch diam. inner hole heater hose or fuel line.  Make it a tiny bit shorter than the space where it will be and kink it in the middle while putting it on.  You should not have to remove much of anything.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: James Lempe <oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Jun 25, 2008 6:36 AM
>To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
>
>I'm faced with the task or replacing a leaking water bypass hose on my BE.
>It's a small hose about 2" long that goes between the water pump and the front
>end on the head.  Has anyone done this?  Do I need to remove the water pump or
>is there some easy way to replace it?
> 
>Thanks for the help!
> 
>Jim in Homer Alaska
>
>---


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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 07:50:36 2008
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:50:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] almost there
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0806250650m59eb8c7fqa8711a121f677b6e@mail.gmail.com>

Bill L(Pythias) & Bill M,
Great to hear of your progress & your time on the road - tell Bill M that I
will relay this info to interested parties.
(hey would it kill ya to post a picture or two on the BCF???)
8-)
(My better half keeps asking me if I've heard anything, now I can tell her
you're OK)

Rick Bastedo

__________________________________________________________
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:55:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: pythias at pacifier.com
Subject: [Spridgets] almost there
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Message-ID: <1472.71.31.213.210.1214358936.squirrel at webmail.iinet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

hey,

    We're in Nebraska City , Nebraska tonite.. should make  osage beach
tomorrow afternoon...

Bill L. and Bill M.

1700 miles down, 300 to go!
__________________________________________________________

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 25 08:45:40 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:45:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
In-Reply-To: <19977645.1214395903375.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <995291.8689.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Use a bit of water soluble lube on the hose and it wil slip on easily. 

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
wrote:

From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose

You can simply use a piece of 1/2 inch diam. inner hole heater hose or fuel
line.  Make it a tiny bit shorter than the space where it will be and kink it
in the middle while putting it on.  You should not have to remove much of
anything.

Mike C

>
>I'm faced with the task or replacing a leaking water bypass hose on my
BE.
>It's a small hose about 2" long that goes between the water pump
and the front
>end on the head.  Has anyone done this?  Do I need to remove the water pump
or
>is there some easy way to replace it?

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 25 09:17:32 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:17:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
In-Reply-To: <995291.8689.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <19977645.1214395903375.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<995291.8689.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4861FF1C.21800.12EFB7@dmg.bossig.com>

A bit of dishwasher liquid on the hose works wonders  ;-))

On 25 Jun 2008 at 7:45, Red Midget wrote:

>> You can simply use a piece of 1/2 inch diam. inner hole heater hose or
>> fuel line.  Make it a tiny bit shorter than the space where it will be
>> and kink it in the middle while putting it on.  You should not have to
>> remove much of anything.
>> 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 25 09:31:08 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:31:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
In-Reply-To: <4861FF1C.21800.12EFB7@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34A22F1C4CCE3FB94C487CB8A00@phx.gbl>

I thought that bypass surgery was more complicated than that ... :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>

A bit of dishwasher liquid on the hose works wonders  ;-))

On 25 Jun 2008 at 7:45, Red Midget wrote:

 >> You can simply use a piece of 1/2 inch diam. inner hole heater hose or
 >> fuel line.  Make it a tiny bit shorter than the space where it will be
 >> and kink it in the middle while putting it on.  You should not have to
 >> remove much of anything.

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 25 09:58:22 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
Message-ID: <8203467.1214409502211.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Nope!  Me thinks thats bout all it needs ;^)).

-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Jun 25, 2008 11:31 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ByPass Hose
>
>I thought that bypass surgery was more complicated than that ... :)
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
>
>A bit of dishwasher liquid on the hose works wonders  ;-))
>
>On 25 Jun 2008 at 7:45, Red Midget wrote:
>
> >> You can simply use a piece of 1/2 inch diam. inner hole heater hose or
> >> fuel line.  Make it a tiny bit shorter than the space where it will be
> >> and kink it in the middle while putting it on.  You should not have to
> >> remove much of anything.
>_______________________________________________


________________________________________
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 25 10:03:39 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:03:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <01d001c8d6b7$c8f1d3f0$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote: "Buster, are we going to have to listen to your
never-ending politics all the way until November?"

 

Larry, need I remind you that I did not initiate the topic?   Perhaps it
might be better to take the issue up with those who did.

 

Buster 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 25 10:12:16 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:12:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F356EADEF41A6E1E9718281B8A00@phx.gbl>

You may remember that I suggested that we keep politics out of it and 
discuss "ideas".


----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote: "Buster, are we going to have to listen to your
never-ending politics all the way until November?"

Larry, need I remind you that I did not initiate the topic?   Perhaps it
might be better to take the issue up with those who did.

Buster

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun 25 10:57:14 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:57:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
Message-ID: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>

I'm at the Super 8 in Osage Beach until I move over to the Grand Glaize 
tomorrow.

2013 miles and no mechanical issues at all!!  NOW I have something to say 
about Megasquirt at my tech session.

If you've ever imagined the romance and adventure of driving a classic 
car cross country and living life on the road like they did in the 
50's..........

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jun 25 11:11:30 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:11:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>

Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the benefit of those of us who 
cannot attend?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:57 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!


I'm at the Super 8 in Osage Beach until I move over to the Grand Glaize
tomorrow.

2013 miles and no mechanical issues at all!!  NOW I have something to say
about Megasquirt at my tech session.

If you've ever imagined the romance and adventure of driving a classic
car cross country and living life on the road like they did in the
50's..........
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets 

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Jun 25 12:27:44 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:27:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>,
	<029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <48622BB0.1771.C110DD@dmg.bossig.com>

Me too.... Please ??? Huh!

On 25 Jun 2008 at 12:11, Larry Daniels wrote:

>> Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the benefit of those of
>> us who cannot attend?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 12:34:00 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:34:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1214416801.18870.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1214416801.18870.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net>

"Dean Hedin" wrote:
> Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine
> modern substitute paint you can find right at your local hardware store
> that should give you that original look and feel.
> 
> Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin.
> 
> Better known today as Rustoleum...
> Hah!

Which brings us full circle back to "paint your car for $50". :)

One such link:
<http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/10/how-to-paint-your-car-for-50/>

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From tinydog at snet.net  Wed Jun 25 12:43:47 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:43:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <01d001c8d6b7$c8f1d3f0$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <062520081843.29436.486291E300086C14000072FC22230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog warns:

Could continue after that about President Obama.
 -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: --------------


> Larry Daniels wrote: "Buster, are we going to have to listen to your
> never-ending politics all the way until November?"
> 
>  
> 
> Larry, need I remind you that I did not initiate the topic?   Perhaps it
> might be better to take the issue up with those who did.

From hal at katemuir.com  Wed Jun 25 13:15:57 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:15:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFOEJFHIAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Great idea, Larry.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 10:12 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Glen Byrns
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!


Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the benefit of those of us who
cannot attend?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 25 13:36:12 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:36:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <E1KBamq-00047M-8H@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  "Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the
benefit of those of us who cannot attend?"

 

Yes, yes, yes!   Those of us in the depths of our envy need and ache for
something to give us the vicarious pleasure of being there.

 

Buster

From cmlove at knology.net  Wed Jun 25 13:37:13 2008
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:37:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
Message-ID: <35648.1214422633@knology.net>

   How  much  should  I  expect  to pay to have my 1275 head converted to
   UNLEADED fuel?

   Is  there a good place that is recommended to ship it or should I find
   someone locally to do it?

   I'm in Huntsville, Alabama

   What really has to be done to accomplish a good conversion?

   Thanks,

   Monty Love

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 25 13:52:09 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:52:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
Message-ID: <23959737.1214423529504.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Why not simply run the head for as long as it will on unleaded.  I have for years and have not seen any ill effects.  No use throwing money away until you need to.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Monty Love <cmlove at knology.net>
>Sent: Jun 25, 2008 3:37 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
>
>   How  much  should  I  expect  to pay to have my 1275 head converted to
>   UNLEADED fuel?
>
>   Is  there a good place that is recommended to ship it or should I find
>   someone locally to do it?
>
>   I'm in Huntsville, Alabama
>
>   What really has to be done to accomplish a good conversion?
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Monty Love
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Wed Jun 25 14:08:03 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:08:03 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
In-Reply-To: <35648.1214422633@knology.net>
References: <35648.1214422633@knology.net>
Message-ID: <17460.164.58.184.10.1214424483.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

>    How  much  should  I  expect  to pay to have my 1275 head converted to
>    UNLEADED fuel?

I wouldn't pay a dime, spridgets and 1000's of other cars are ran daily
that were designed on leaded fuel.  With little to no ill effects.  I
sometimes wonder if that was something that came about when lead fuel was
phased in as a means to make some $$ for installers and sellers of parts.

I can't recall where, but I had read someplace years back that the effects
on a leaded head is so minimal it was not good economy to make the
conversion.

Just my .02....still filling em with unleaded but not E85!

Charlie
74 Midget

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Wed Jun 25 14:23:25 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:23:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
In-Reply-To: <35648.1214422633@knology.net>
References: <35648.1214422633@knology.net>
Message-ID: <B8032437-5179-4E88-86FA-443750C2377E@valentinephoto.net>

Monty,

There is some info on MG engines and leaded/unleaded fuel here;

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgoc&p=emg/mgocu.htm

I have run several Spridget engines on unleaded (with no conversion)  
for 15,000 (and more) and they are doing just fine.

Kevin V
Tuscarora, Pa


On Jun 25, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Monty Love wrote:

>    How  much  should  I  expect  to pay to have my 1275 head  
> converted to
>    UNLEADED fuel?
>
>    Is  there a good place that is recommended to ship it or should  
> I find
>    someone locally to do it?
>
>    I'm in Huntsville, Alabama
>
>    What really has to be done to accomplish a good conversion?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 25 14:36:51 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:36:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <E1KBamq-00047M-8H@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<E1KBamq-00047M-8H@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806251336x73098f3ar52e67d6d07299bc9@mail.gmail.com>

I have had only a few minutes with the rush coming in, but I was able to
post a few still pics.  Go to the website at <
http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org> and on the index page there is a link to a
few pics.  We'll get more stills posted as we get time.  Additionally, our
still photographer (local photog) is doing a DVD of both slides and video
which will be for sale from the website later.
About half the crowd is now here.  The long haulers from Washington and
California States made it with no problems.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:36 PM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Larry Daniels wrote:  "Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the
> benefit of those of us who cannot attend?"
>
>
>
> Yes, yes, yes!   Those of us in the depths of our envy need and ache for
> something to give us the vicarious pleasure of being there.
>
>
>
> Buster

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Jun 25 15:21:00 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:21:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] sighting
Message-ID: <012201c8d709$5e2bb7a0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    Two Spridgets on route 70 east near the intersection of route 51 just
south of Pittsburgh (around 2:50 pm), headed towards the PA turnpike - anyone
on the list??

                                                                        CB

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 25 15:37:09 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:37:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED
Message-ID: <ce7.2d508114.35941485@aol.com>

Converting to unleaded is an excuse for a bigger valved and ported head and  
won't cost much more than a regular unleaded conversion.
 
In a message dated 25/06/2008 21:24:44 GMT Daylight Time,  
kevin at valentinephoto.net writes:

Monty,

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 17:38:54 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:38:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <mailman.13.1214416801.18870.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<48628F98.90602@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

I don't think I would roll it.  Spraying it is the way to go.
You can see what HVLP sprayed Rustoleum "Antique White" looks like on a 
Bugeye right here....

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1109-01.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1115-01.jpg

So tell me, does it look like Old English White or not?

I'll see if I can post more pictures after I do the second coat.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint


> "Dean Hedin" wrote:
>> Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine
>> modern substitute paint you can find right at your local hardware store
>> that should give you that original look and feel.
>>
>> Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin.
>>
>> Better known today as Rustoleum...
>> Hah!
>
> Which brings us full circle back to "paint your car for $50". :)
>
> One such link:
> <http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/10/how-to-paint-your-car-for-50/>

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 18:35:42 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:35:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <mailman.13.1214416801.18870.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<48628F98.90602@comcast.net>
	<003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <534CD065-6313-4BFC-8235-DAD110323171@comcast.net>

WOW!!  I'm impressed!

HVLP from Harbor Freight or ??

Lester


On Jun 25, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:

> I don't think I would roll it.  Spraying it is the way to go.
> You can see what HVLP sprayed Rustoleum "Antique White" looks like  
> on a
> Bugeye right here....
>
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1109-01.jpg
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1115-01.jpg
>
> So tell me, does it look like Old English White or not?
>
> I'll see if I can post more pictures after I do the second coat.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent McLean" <kentmclean at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
>
>
>> "Dean Hedin" wrote:
>>> Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine
>>> modern substitute paint you can find right at your local hardware  
>>> store
>>> that should give you that original look and feel.
>>>
>>> Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin.
>>>
>>> Better known today as Rustoleum...
>>> Hah!
>>
>> Which brings us full circle back to "paint your car for $50". :)
>>
>> One such link:
>> <http://toolmonger.com/2007/07/10/how-to-paint-your-car-for-50/>
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 25 19:15:03 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:15:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1KBg4l-000564-7n@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:  "So tell me, does it look like Old English White or not?"

Nope!  Close, but no cigar.  It might, however, look better in daylight.

Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 21:06:32 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:06:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <E1KBg4l-000564-7n@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009201c8d739$a3a89020$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Close but no cigar would apply to the many variations
of OEW I have looked at over the years.

Keep in mind the two inside images are with the flash & fluorecents.
while outside shot was done in the evening.

Lighting can play havok with this off white color.  If you were to look at 
this image
for example you would say it's too amber looking:
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1111-01.jpg

Or how about the following image:
The rear end  looks like dove gray while the front end looks amber.
This is caused by the grey evening outside lighting in the back and the 
flourecents in the front of the garage.
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1108-01.jpg

Neither of the above two images are anywhere close to what the car actually 
looks like in person.

Of all the images,  I would say this one is the "closest" to what it 
actually looks like.
http://i295.photobucket.com:80/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "'Dean Hedin'" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint


> Dean Hedin wrote:  "So tell me, does it look like Old English White or 
> not?"
>
> Nope!  Close, but no cigar.  It might, however, look better in daylight.
>
> Buster

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 25 21:50:24 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:50:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <E1KBg4l-000564-7n@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000c01c8d73f$c4954ed0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

Tell ya what Buster, compare these two images....

What I believe my "most correct" photo...
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg

with Brian Clare's Serial number 888 at Sprite Jubilee
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1054-01.jpg

Different lighting, but pretty darn close...

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 25 22:06:04 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:06:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <009201c8d739$a3a89020$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1KBikF-0005KF-RC@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:  "Close but no cigar would apply to the many variations of
OEW I have looked at over the years."

 

Absolutely!   And I had the unfortunate experience of having to try most of
them.  At Christmastime of 1961, I drove my Sprite from Memphis to my home
in Southern California.  When I was gone one night, my brother wanted to
drive my Sprite, and the folks said OK.   Three blocks away, he  crunched
the RF wing and suspension.   Bondo restored the curvature, but over the
years I was never able to find an OEW paint that would match the Healey
paint.   I think the spectrographic analysis finally led to the right Healey
formula.

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 25 22:10:46 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:10:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8d73f$c4954ed0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1KBion-0001aH-NL@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:  "Tell ya what Buster, compare these two images...."

 

Alas, no photograph, especially with any kind of artificial lighting, will
give a true representation of the color it seeks to portray.  (Does that
comparison car have its original paint?   If not, how was the formula
determined?)

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 00:47:12 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:47:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <48632689.1080206@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mike Rambour wrote  "aren't there as many variations of Olde English White
as there are British Racing Green ?"

 

At least as many!   However, I don't believe Americans became attached to
BRG until long after they had discovered OEW.  I have always thought it was
related to the Indianapolis superstition about cars being painted green
being bad luck.   I wonder how many remember the hue and cry in 1965, when
Jimmy Clark came to Indianapolis with his green Lotus-Ford?   Some drivers
threatened to boycott the race, and many snickered at Clark and Colin
Chapman for having the engine mounted in the REAR of the car, of all places.

 

The Flying Scot, of course, showed them all, not only with the BRG paint,
but also becoming the first driver with a rear-engine car to win it all.
BRG was suddenly the "in" color for sports cars.

 

Clark quickly became an American hero, not simply to Yank sports car
drivers, but to American race fans, as well.  His irrepressible personality
and wide, honest grin captured the affection of even his early detractors.
If he was racing anywhere in this country, his legion of fans were
prominently displaying their "Jimmy Clark for President" signs.   Those
signs were seen everywhere in the election year of 1968, but quickly
disappeared when Clark was killed in April or May 1968 at Hockenheimring
(Germany).   Sadly, it was a race he never wanted to enter, for it was for
Formula 2 cars, and he really wanted race a Formula 1 at Brands Hatch (or
was it Goodwood?).   Because of a contract obligation, Firestone made him
race in Germany instead of England.

 

Now for a little quiz on your historical knowledge:   British Racing Green
was on Clark's car because:

 

1.      To him it represented the green, green hills of his home in the
Borders.

2.      The FIA dictated colors for each country.

3.      It was the company color for Colin Chapman's Lotus Cars Ltd.

4.      Clark's wife, Beatrice, picked it because it was her "lucky" color.

 

Buster

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 01:31:54 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:31:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
In-Reply-To: <E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KBXTA-0004rF-Tt@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <486345EA.3030506@gmail.com>

I brought in the politics. But Buster does have a valid point of
questioning the person who delivered that senate report.  While you and
I might not agree with his final analysis there are still 2 questions on
the table:

1)  (and most important) Even if the author of the report is suspect is
that much new money entering the futures market a good thing?  When the
federal regulations changed  it did not work with the Savings & Loans in
the 80's and mortgage back securities of the last few years.  I am not
the person to answer this question I worry that these changes might not
be a good thing.
2)  How did Buster connect the various dot and fill in the blanks about
the author of the report?

-g


B- Evans wrote:
> Larry Daniels wrote: "Buster, are we going to have to listen to your
> never-ending politics all the way until November?"
>
>  
>
> Larry, need I remind you that I did not initiate the topic?   Perhaps it
> might be better to take the issue up with those who did.
>
>  
>
> Buster 
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From tinydog at snet.net  Thu Jun 26 05:30:40 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:30:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <48632689.1080206@b2systems.com>
	<E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <062620081130.7567.48637DE000059A2B00001D8F22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Forget about variations on paint color, we seem to have started variations on the life and times of Jim Clark.

Jim Clark died on April 7th 1968 at Hockenheim. He entered this Formula 2 race out of his love for racing. Like many drivers of that era he raced in many different series and Formulae. Lotus cars at that time were green with the exception of the Cortina which was white with a green accent. 

Clark did not forgo an F1 race on that fateful day as there was no Formula One race anywhere in April 1968, let alone England. The British Grand Prix was not held until July of that year at Brand Hatch.


 -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: --------------


> Mike Rambour wrote  "aren't there as many variations of Olde English White
> as there are British Racing Green ?"
> 
>  
> 
> At least as many!   However, I don't believe Americans became attached to
> BRG until long after they had discovered OEW.  I have always thought it was
> related to the Indianapolis superstition about cars being painted green
> being bad luck.   I wonder how many remember the hue and cry in 1965, when
> Jimmy Clark came to Indianapolis with his green Lotus-Ford?   Some drivers
> threatened to boycott the race, and many snickered at Clark and Colin
> Chapman for having the engine mounted in the REAR of the car, of all places.
> 
>  
> 
> The Flying Scot, of course, showed them all, not only with the BRG paint,
> but also becoming the first driver with a rear-engine car to win it all.
> BRG was suddenly the "in" color for sports cars.
> 
>  
> 
> Clark quickly became an American hero, not simply to Yank sports car
> drivers, but to American race fans, as well.  His irrepressible personality
> and wide, honest grin captured the affection of even his early detractors.
> If he was racing anywhere in this country, his legion of fans were
> prominently displaying their "Jimmy Clark for President" signs.   Those
> signs were seen everywhere in the election year of 1968, but quickly
> disappeared when Clark was killed in April or May 1968 at Hockenheimring
> (Germany).   Sadly, it was a race he never wanted to enter, for it was for
> Formula 2 cars, and he really wanted race a Formula 1 at Brands Hatch (or
> was it Goodwood?).   Because of a contract obligation, Firestone made him
> race in Germany instead of England.
> 
>  
> 
> Now for a little quiz on your historical knowledge:   British Racing Green
> was on Clark's car because:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.      To him it represented the green, green hills of his home in the
> Borders.
> 
> 2.      The FIA dictated colors for each country.
> 
> 3.      It was the company color for Colin Chapman's Lotus Cars Ltd.
> 
> 4.      Clark's wife, Beatrice, picked it because it was her "lucky" color.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 26 07:16:26 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:16:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint- SAR
In-Reply-To: <E1KBikF-0005KF-RC@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F365D7FF5502CEAC6AD948FB8A30@phx.gbl>

I have never seen a white cigar.

----Original Message Follows----

Dean Hedin wrote:  "Close but no cigar would apply to the many variations of
OEW I have looked at over the years."

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 09:43:30 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:43:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <000c01c8d73f$c4954ed0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
References: <E1KBg4l-000564-7n@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<000c01c8d73f$c4954ed0$0400a8c0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806260843i378c605fw4bb3f7e6b25b48fb@mail.gmail.com>

Of course there's probably also calibration and color balance differences
between the cameras used for the two images.

Understand as well that even variances in the monitor the image is displayed
upon will alter the percieved hue to the different viewers!


On 6/25/08, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Tell ya what Buster, compare these two images....
>
> What I believe my "most correct" photo...
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg
>
> with Brian Clare's Serial number 888 at Sprite Jubilee
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1054-01.jpg
>
> Different lighting, but pretty darn close...

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Jun 26 09:58:23 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:58:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <B4FEC5D8-22B3-412D-8D44-3D5DC01D9740@mac.com>

Just a foot note.  The first English rear engined green car at  
Indianapolis was a Cooper Climax driven by Jack Brabhama in 1960.  It  
was not at the race until 1961.  Cooper had a new car for Jack but  
they were half way around the world from each other and a deal was  
made to meet at Indianapolis to test the car, with the official  
timers for Indianapolis.  The timers were amazed that Jack was doing  
lap times faster than what was needed to qualify for Indianapolis in  
a new untried car.  Also that he was changing his lap times by a few  
seconds in a fixed pattern.   As a result of these test Jack and the  
car came back and qualified for the 1961 race where he finished ninth  
- - - - but he was running on Dunlop tries for grand prix racing not  
special Indy tires (contract with Dunlop would not let him run on any  
other tire) and his car was centered between the wheels rather than  
being off set to the inside of the track like the other Indy cars.   
Oh and his engine was smaller.  Not taking away from Jimmy Clarks  
achievements but Jack's performance always seemed amazing to me.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 25, 2008, at 11:47 PM, B- Evans wrote:

> At least as many!   However, I don't believe Americans became  
> attached to
> BRG until long after they had discovered OEW.  I have always  
> thought it was
> related to the Indianapolis superstition about cars being painted  
> green
> being bad luck.   I wonder how many remember the hue and cry in  
> 1965, when
> Jimmy Clark came to Indianapolis with his green Lotus-Ford?   Some  
> drivers
> threatened to boycott the race, and many snickered at Clark and Colin
> Chapman for having the engine mounted in the REAR of the car, of  
> all places.
>
>
>
> The Flying Scot, of course, showed them all, not only with the BRG  
> paint,
> but also becoming the first driver with a rear-engine car to win it  
> all.
> BRG was suddenly the "in" color for sports cars.

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Jun 26 10:32:06 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:32:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <B4FEC5D8-22B3-412D-8D44-3D5DC01D9740@mac.com>
References: <E1KBlGB-0004Xq-U3@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<B4FEC5D8-22B3-412D-8D44-3D5DC01D9740@mac.com>
Message-ID: <4863C486.9030901@verizon.net>

Hmmm  .... izzat the son of Ossama Brabhama???

Kitterer Bob wrote:
> The first English rear engined green car at  
> Indianapolis was a Cooper Climax driven by Jack Brabhama in 1960. 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 26 10:36:24 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:36:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Message-ID: <d35.2d0dafc4.35951f88@aol.com>

I suspect the PC screen resolution the images are viewed on and the ambient  
lighting in the room the PC is situated in will also effect what the colour  
looks like?
 
In a message dated 26/06/2008 04:50:46 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

Different lighting, but pretty darn  close...

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 26 10:38:22 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:38:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Message-ID: <c9e.309cb056.35951ffe@aol.com>

But not all in the same year!  Was it not the 2nd attempt Lotus and  Jimmy 
Clark had at the Indy when they won it?
 
In a message dated 26/06/2008 07:47:37 GMT Daylight Time,  
b-evans at earthlink.net writes:

I wonder  how many remember the hue and cry in 1965, when
Jimmy Clark came to  Indianapolis with his green Lotus-Ford?   Some drivers
threatened  to boycott the race, and many snickered at Clark and Colin
Chapman for  having the engine mounted in the REAR of the car, of all  places.



The Flying Scot, of course, showed them all, not only  with the BRG paint,
but also becoming the first driver with a rear-engine  car to win it all.
BRG was suddenly the "in" color for sports  cars.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Jun 26 10:48:36 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 09:48:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <c9e.309cb056.35951ffe@aol.com>
References: <c9e.309cb056.35951ffe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1D9C2CD0-9493-477D-9A01-6F24079714CD@mac.com>

It was his third try.  He finished 2nd in 1963, 24th in 1964, 1st in  
1965, 2nd in 1966 and 31 in 1967. - - - - Wikipedia is wonderful :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 26, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:

> But not all in the same year!  Was it not the 2nd attempt Lotus  
> and  Jimmy
> Clark had at the Indy when they won it?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 12:05:23 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:05:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <062620081130.7567.48637DE000059A2B00001D8F22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <E1KBvqU-0004ra-74@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Tinydog wrote:  " Jim Clark died on April 7th 1968 at Hockenheim."

 

The *track* where he died was Hockenheimring.

 

Tinydog wrote:  " He entered this Formula 2 race out of his love for
racing."

 

Strange.  Where did you get this information?   I can well remember the
resentment against Firestone that developed among some people, because they
forced Clark to run at Hockenheimring.   He had preferred Goodyears, but
Lotus had a new contract with Firestone, and although Clark wanted to race
at Brands Hatch, he was forced to go to9 Hockenheimring, instead.   Just in
case my memory was failing me, I took a look in the Internet.   My
recollection is supported in a number of sites:

 

http://www.ipernity.com/doc/bunthund/1398636/in/album/45454

http://www.wheelsofspeed.com/history/april_7.html

http://forums.autosport.com/printthread.php?threadid=44108

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Clark

http://www.flickr.com/photos/castlekay/2539408130/

 

The great irony, and perhaps the cause of much bitterness toward Firestone,
was that accident investigators concluded that the cause of the accident was
a deflating rear tire!

 

Tinydog wrote:  "Lotus cars at that time were green with the exception of
the Cortina which was white with a green accent."

 

>From the early 20th century until the late 1960's or early 1970's, the FIA
had dictated national colors in Grand Prix racing, and green was the color
assigned to England.   That is also why Ferraris were red!

 

Buster

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 26 12:12:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in Los
	Angeles
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3633F57BE46E9CCDD31C6EB8A30@phx.gbl>

I wish they gave more details ... like what the costs are compared to gas.  
Is there enough electricity available for the masses to do this?  Are people 
doing this for the environment, for the savings, or for the snob appeal?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/06/26/hydrogen.html

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Jun 26 12:18:24 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:18:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0806260843i378c605fw4bb3f7e6b25b48fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4892B80.17E92%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I don't believe the factory ever mixed the same colour twice.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 26 12:34:28 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:34:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in
 LosAngeles
Message-ID: <000001c8d7bb$45bc8ca0$b803f204@spider>

Snob appeal to start with; "I got one and you don't."
Makes most sense in areas prone to smog and such.
Costs depend on who's promoting it and demand. ...bill in oregon
=============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Robert Duquette
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:13 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in
LosAngeles

I wish they gave more details ... like what the costs are compared to gas.  
Is there enough electricity available for the masses to do this?  Are people

doing this for the environment, for the savings, or for the snob appeal?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/06/26/hydrogen.html
_______________________________________________

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Jun 26 13:23:18 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:23:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <E1KBvqU-0004ra-74@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEMPHIAA.hal@katemuir.com>

And that is why German GP Cars were all painted white.  Well, except for
some cars that couldn't make the weight limit with paint on them....
Hal

>From the early 20th century until the late 1960's or early 1970's, the FIA
had dictated national colors in Grand Prix racing, and green was the color
assigned to England.   That is also why Ferraris were red!

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 26 13:31:14 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:31:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Message-ID: <390508.1214508674465.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

They're silver ya dingling ;^).

-----Original Message-----
>From: Hal Faulkner <hal at katemuir.com>
>Sent: Jun 26, 2008 3:23 PM
>To: B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>, tinydog at snet.net, 'Urban
>	Legends' <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
>
>And that is why German GP Cars were all painted white.  Well, except for
>some cars that couldn't make the weight limit with paint on them....
>Hal
>
>>From the early 20th century until the late 1960's or early 1970's, the FIA
>had dictated national colors in Grand Prix racing, and green was the color
>assigned to England.   That is also why Ferraris were red!
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
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http://www.peoplepc.com

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 13:38:34 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:38:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint- SAR
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F365D7FF5502CEAC6AD948FB8A30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1KBxIf-0007kH-1M@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Robert Duquette wrote:  " I have never seen a white cigar."

 

If someone offers you a Blanco y Blanco Puro, say, "NO THANKS!"   They taste
like chalk and white paint!!!

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 14:10:22 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:10:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <4863C486.9030901@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <E1KBxnQ-0007Ps-3i@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Chuck wrote:  " Hmmm  .... izzat the son of Ossama Brabhama???"

 

No, no, no!   Jack Brabhama was an Iraqi oriental rug salesman working out
of Persia, and whose ingenious techniques led to Persian rugs made in
Revolutionary Iran being used on garage floors to soak up Castrol 30 motor
oil.  

 

Hopes this helps.

 

Buster

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 26 14:10:44 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:10:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
Message-ID: <c1f.3c087488.359551c4@aol.com>

So who silver GP cars and what colour did Honda have?  The French of  course 
had blue.
 
In a message dated 26/06/2008 20:23:10 GMT Daylight Time, hal at katemuir.com  
writes:

And that  is why German GP Cars were all painted white.  Well, except for
some  cars that couldn't make the weight limit with paint on  them....
Hal

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 14:13:26 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:13:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <d35.2d0dafc4.35951f88@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1KBxqO-0001HL-A2@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Weslake1330 wrote:  "I suspect the PC screen resolution the images are
viewed on and the ambient  lighting in the room the PC is situated in will
also effect what the colour  looks like?"

 

Bingo!   You got it right.  However, you forgot to extrapolate the
differences between the square root of "colour" and "color".  They are of a
major significance in the inertia of cosmic matter.

 

Buster

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 26 14:16:58 2008
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <c1f.3c087488.359551c4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <897364.28905.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Honda F1 cars were white with the red roundals...

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

From: Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
To: hal at katemuir.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 4:10 PM

So who silver GP cars and what colour did Honda have?  The French of  course 
had blue.
 
In a message dated 26/06/2008 20:23:10 GMT Daylight Time, hal at katemuir.com  
writes:

And that  is why German GP Cars were all painted white.  Well, except for
some  cars that couldn't make the weight limit with paint on  them....
Hal
You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com

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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 14:17:09 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:17:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <479E3EBD6ECC4095BA7B5B2BB5436704@Home>
Message-ID: <E1KBxu2-0000Bz-PN@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:  "Don't scare off these people because you are having
trouble with the latest, hottest game."

 

What are "games"?   Ain't never been one on my computer that I know of.  Of
course, I only use my computer for e-mail, managing photos, typing, and web
shopping.  And research and writing.

 

Buster

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 26 17:34:40 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in
 Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3633F57BE46E9CCDD31C6EB8A30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <110088.24646.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There doing it because our Governor has a Hydrogen powered Hummer.


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in Los
Angeles
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 11:12 AM

I wish they gave more details ... like what the costs are compared to gas.
Is there enough electricity available for the masses to do this?  Are people
doing this for the environment, for the savings, or for the snob appeal?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/06/26/hydrogen.html
You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From ricksnover at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 26 17:52:21 2008
From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:52:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Healeys] Conclave Inquiry
Message-ID: <E1KC1GI-0004Bv-CH@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

If anybody has any ideas to help John, contact him directly:

>Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
>From: John Kuzman <jjkbj7 at yahoo.com>
>To: Healeys at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Healeys] Conclave Inquiry
>
>Greetings Friends,
>
>I am at the Sprite 50th celebration and a question has come up that 
>I agreed to take the lead on making an inquiry. An east coast LBC 
>enthusiast needs help transporting a Bugeye from the Davis?, CA area 
>to the east coast for a non-profit restoration. We thought about a 
>chain transport, i.e.instead of hands across the nation, this would 
>be Healey across the nation. If we could just get it to the midwest, 
>we have people who would trailer transfer it over to the east coast. 
>Anyone have any spare trailer room coming back to the midwest?

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 26 18:12:03 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:12:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <E1KBxqO-0001HL-A2@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001201c8d7ea$6dcd0150$0400a8c0@blackbox2>

There are some photo's here of the rotodip painting at Longbridge.

http://www.austinmemories.com/page62/page62.html

Does anybody have photos of the early Sprites going throught the Rotodip?

From above_the_line at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 26 22:35:08 2008
From: above_the_line at yahoo.com (Michael Burkhart)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] HELP OIL FILTER AND DISTRIBUTOR
Message-ID: <743891.56386.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

LOOKING FOR A OIL FILTER CAN AND ASSOCIATED HARDWARE. THIS IS THE PART THAT THE FILTER FITS IN AND IS BOLTED TO THE OIL PUMP OUTLET. I BOUGHT A REBUILT 1098 ENGINE IT WAS MISSING THE ABOVE PARTS. I HAVE THREE OTHER ENGINES BUT NONE THE THE HARDWARE FIT THE 1098CC THE BOLT IS EITHER TO LONG OR THE THREADS ARE THE WRONG PITCH. I DID NOTICE THAT THE OUTLET HAS A ELECTRICAL PUSH ON CONNECTOR ON TOP AND THE OTHER DON'T. ALSO DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT DISTRIBUTOR WORKS ON THIS ENGINE I HAVE A DM2 AND A 25D.



Michael L. Burkhart(214) 924-3133 above_the_line at yahoo.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 27 07:32:43 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:32:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <E1KBxu2-0000Bz-PN@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40331E4BA83AC8FD9C46F1B8A20@phx.gbl>

I know what you mean.  I often go to look for something and forget what I'm 
looking for.  Then later I have to go back and research.  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>

And research and writing.


Buster

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 27 07:34:22 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:34:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve stem seals?
Message-ID: <80E220C0-8E39-46A0-B90E-39B5B19470DC@comcast.net>

Ok, so I am trying to find some of the viton valve stem seals for my  
948  and am having no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?  Am I looking at  
them and dont' know it?

My headgasket set came with a small paper bag with "O" rings in it and  
I can only guess that those are the factory seals..  I would prefer  
better..

Thanks all,

Lester

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 27 07:34:45 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <E1KBxqO-0001HL-A2@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3597D532A3DF29098B016BB8A20@phx.gbl>

>>  "colour" and "color".

Yeah, the results will be very different if u aren't into it.


----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>

Weslake1330 wrote:  "I suspect the PC screen resolution the images are
viewed on and the ambient  lighting in the room the PC is situated in will
also effect what the colour  looks like?"

Bingo!   You got it right.  However, you forgot to extrapolate the
differences between the square root of "colour" and "color".  They are of a
major significance in the inertia of cosmic matter.

Buster

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 27 07:49:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:49:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bloody computers
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F40331E4BA83AC8FD9C46F1B8A20@phx.gbl>
References: <E1KBxu2-0000Bz-PN@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<BAY112-F40331E4BA83AC8FD9C46F1B8A20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002201c8d85c$a924a100$df03f204@spider>

Gumption traps. Happens more with 'advanced years.'   ...old bill

======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Robert Duquette
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:33 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bloody computers

I know what you mean.  I often go to look for something and forget what I'm 
looking for.  Then later I have to go back and research.  :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>

And research and writing.

Buster
_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 27 07:54:16 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:54:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
Message-ID: <002401c8d85d$4b231e50$df03f204@spider>

Google...    viton valve stem seals
...bill
============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Lester
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:34 AM
To: Spridgets List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Spridgets] Valve stem seals?

Ok, so I am trying to find some of the viton valve stem seals for my  
948  and am having no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?  Am I looking at  
them and dont' know it?
My headgasket set came with a small paper bag with "O" rings in it and  
I can only guess that those are the factory seals..  I would prefer  
better..
Thanks all,
Lester
_______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 27 12:09:23 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <002401c8d85d$4b231e50$df03f204@spider>
References: <002401c8d85d$4b231e50$df03f204@spider>
Message-ID: <E75F127C-EB98-4B18-B144-25B774ECBC5D@comcast.net>

yeah.. I did that but I am not interested in fitting them to a Chevy  
V8..  didn't see them for an A series engine..

Lester

On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Google...    viton valve stem seals
> ...bill
> ============================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Lester
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:34 AM
> To: Spridgets List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] Valve stem seals?
>
> Ok, so I am trying to find some of the viton valve stem seals for my
> 948  and am having no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?  Am I looking at
> them and dont' know it?
> My headgasket set came with a small paper bag with "O" rings in it and
> I can only guess that those are the factory seals..  I would prefer
> better..
> Thanks all,
> Lester
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 27 12:50:20 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:50:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <E75F127C-EB98-4B18-B144-25B774ECBC5D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2252.56342.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.westpaminis.com/vitonseals.html
 
VIGIL

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
To:
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 11:09 AM

yeah.. I did that but I am not interested in fitting them to a Chevy
V8..  didn't see them for an A series engine..

Lester

On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Google...    viton valve stem seals
> ...bill
> ============================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Lester
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:34 AM
> To: Spridgets List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] Valve stem seals?
>
> Ok, so I am trying to find some of the viton valve stem seals for my
> 948  and am having no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?  Am I looking at
> them and dont' know it?
> My headgasket set came with a small paper bag with "O" rings in
it and
> I can only guess that those are the factory seals..  I would prefer
> better..
> Thanks all,
> Lester
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 27 12:53:16 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:53:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <E75F127C-EB98-4B18-B144-25B774ECBC5D@comcast.net>
References: <002401c8d85d$4b231e50$df03f204@spider>
	<E75F127C-EB98-4B18-B144-25B774ECBC5D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <008401c8d887$1073fac0$df03f204@spider>

Sorry, I'm still new at this Spridget thing. Try

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006=&item=200230727800>
&ih=006=&item=200230727800

These apparently didn't sell; you could ask him to relist them and buy, or
just email him and buy. .bill

=======================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Lester
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals

 

yeah.. I did that but I am not interested in fitting them to a Chevy  

V8..  didn't see them for an A series engine..

 

Lester

 

On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

 

> Google...    viton valve stem seals

> ...bill

> ============================================================

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 27 12:56:16 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:56:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <2252.56342.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <737794.94371.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
I FOR GOT TO PUT - I HAVE NEVER USED THERE SERVICES OR KNOW ANY THING ABOUT
THEM.  YOWWWW - Sorry did not see my caps lock on.......Vigil

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
wrote:

From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
To: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 11:50 AM

http://www.westpaminis.com/vitonseals.html

VIGIL

--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
To:
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 11:09 AM

yeah.. I did that but I am not interested in fitting them to a Chevy
V8..  didn't see them for an A series engine..

Lester

On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Google...    viton valve stem seals
> ...bill
> ============================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf
> Of Lester
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:34 AM
> To: Spridgets List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] Valve stem seals?
>
> Ok, so I am trying to find some of the viton valve stem seals for my
> 948  and am having no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?  Am I looking at
> them and dont' know it?
> My headgasket set came with a small paper bag with "O" rings in
it and
> I can only guess that those are the factory seals..  I would prefer
> better..
> Thanks all,
> Lester
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From ricksnover at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 27 14:52:33 2008
From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:52:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Healeys] Road Trips to SD
Message-ID: <E1KCKvp-0004Cr-Vi@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

FYI -
>To: Healey List List <healeys at autox.team.net>
>From: David Nock <healeydoc at sbcglobal.net>
>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:30:55 -0700
>Subject: [Healeys] Road Trips to SD
>
>Anyone traveling thru California along the coast to the meet in SD
>you will need to find another route. Hwy 1 is closed at Big Sur due
>to fires and may not be open for at least a week.
>
>See you all there
>David Nock
>British Car Specialists
>Stockton Ca 95205
>209-948-8767

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 27 15:19:35 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:19:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <008401c8d887$1073fac0$df03f204@spider>
References: <002401c8d85d$4b231e50$df03f204@spider>
	<E75F127C-EB98-4B18-B144-25B774ECBC5D@comcast.net>
	<008401c8d887$1073fac0$df03f204@spider>
Message-ID: <1BE67EBE-13B9-4C7F-B873-4C06EE7E399B@comcast.net>

Thanks all for the help!

Lester

On Jun 27, 2008, at 1:53 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <corvallis at peoplepc.com 
 > wrote:

> Sorry, I'm still new at this Spridget thing. Try
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006=&item=200230727800>
> &ih=006=&item=200230727800
>
> These apparently didn't sell; you could ask him to relist them and  
> buy, or
> just email him and buy. .bill
>
> =======================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Lester
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:09 AM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
>
>
>
> yeah.. I did that but I am not interested in fitting them to a Chevy
>
> V8..  didn't see them for an A series engine..
>
>
>
> Lester
>
>
>
> On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:54 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Google...    viton valve stem seals
>
>> ...bill
>
>> ==========

From htpc2 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 27 16:36:42 2008
From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick Sorak)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:36:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4844B583.2070405@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>

Hello all,
Hope LoTO is goin well and everyone made it?

Noticed my 1275 was runnin hot, it was low on water, that helped but then I 
noticed my plastic fan no longer had any Blades? VB doesn't appear to sell 
plastic fans...What's a good replacement fan?

I think I have unused elec fan bouncing around, but I hate the sound they 
make.

Thanks
Rick in Memphis 

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Jun 27 17:25:11 2008
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:25:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Valve stem seals?
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV1207F5807A6258C4ADCE0D4A20@phx.gbl>

www.aptfast.com

CapBob

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 27 18:33:52 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:33:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan
In-Reply-To: <027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>
	<4844B583.2070405@comcast.net>  <027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W39092DDB6E6214DCB57C08CA9D0@phx.gbl>

When we were at Kate's a few days ago I saw that she had a flex-fan on her
Midget! She said that they were avaliable from British parts Limited in
Eugene, Oregon. To me that (with a 3/8" spacer) looks like the best answer.
Billm

> From: htpc2 at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:36:42 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan
>
> Hello all,
> Hope LoTO is goin well and everyone made it?
>
> Noticed my 1275 was runnin hot, it was low on water, that helped but then I
> noticed my plastic fan no longer had any Blades? VB doesn't appear to sell
> plastic fans...What's a good replacement fan?
>
> I think I have unused elec fan bouncing around, but I hate the sound they
> make.
>
> Thanks
> Rick in Memphis
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From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Jun 27 19:43:17 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:43:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W39092DDB6E6214DCB57C08CA9D0@phx.gbl>
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>,
	<BLU107-W39092DDB6E6214DCB57C08CA9D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <486534C5.4856.2817C85@dmg.bossig.com>

Anyone have their web page or Phone number???

On 27 Jun 2008 at 17:33, Bill Masquelier wrote:

>> When we were at Kate's a few days ago I saw that she had a flex-fan on
>> her Midget! She said that they were avaliable from British parts
>> Limited in Eugene, Oregon


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Fri Jun 27 20:09:55 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:09:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan British Auto Parts Limited
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>,
	<BLU107-W39092DDB6E6214DCB57C08CA9D0@phx.gbl>
	<486534C5.4856.2817C85@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <198CA1101DE1480BA15869B83891B6BF@DBKF4T81>

We're probably talking about Jim Pocan in Marcola OR, which is just outside 
the Eugene area. Jim is very easy to deal with and is great when it comes to 
follow-up and prompt shipping. I'd recommend getting in touch with him.

Jim Pocan
British Auto Parts Limited
http://www.britautoparts.com/
93256 Holland Ln, Marcola, OR - 97454
(541) 933-2880?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan


> Anyone have their web page or Phone number???
>
> On 27 Jun 2008 at 17:33, Bill Masquelier wrote:
>
>>> When we were at Kate's a few days ago I saw that she had a flex-fan on
>>> her Midget! She said that they were avaliable from British parts
>>> Limited in Eugene, Oregon
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Jun 27 20:35:43 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:35:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan British Auto Parts Limited
In-Reply-To: <198CA1101DE1480BA15869B83891B6BF@DBKF4T81>
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<198CA1101DE1480BA15869B83891B6BF@DBKF4T81>
Message-ID: <4865410F.6203.2B17D66@dmg.bossig.com>

Gentlemen,,,,,

Many Thanks     ;^))

On 27 Jun 2008 at 19:09, pdxpete and Bill M. wrote:

>> Jim Pocan
>> British Auto Parts Limited
>> http://www.britautoparts.com/
>> 93256 Holland Ln, Marcola, OR - 97454
>> (541) 933-2880?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Sat Jun 28 06:32:24 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:32:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
Message-ID: <348743AF-724F-45DF-9E1B-3F26278D26A5@dartmouth.edu>

Okay I give up - how do you remove the headrests from '79 midget  
seats? Please don't say "They just pull out." 'cause these puppies  
don't....

-m

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 28 09:23:47 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Guitar Player, LBC owner content
Message-ID: <525515.99158.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just got back from Brazil. Browsing mags at the airport, the new Guitar Player has a nice interview with our own Billy Zoom about the new Gretsch BZ model. Attaboy, Zoom! 

Sweet noise, if you're not familiar - 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQuLqwz-C-4

Hope the LoTo goers are having a blast - wish I were there.

Ron

From mike.vasquez at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 09:40:41 2008
From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:40:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Fan
In-Reply-To: <486534C5.4856.2817C85@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48444ECE.18049.2D82805@dmg.bossig.com>
	<027401c8d8a6$46f08e00$6500a8c0@htpc>
	<BLU107-W39092DDB6E6214DCB57C08CA9D0@phx.gbl>
	<486534C5.4856.2817C85@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <28f529ba0806280840y4b951e74w9b4f087d87088979@mail.gmail.com>

My googling found this -- good luck:

http://www.britautoparts.com/
jim at britautoparts.com (owner)

Available M-F 8-5 (Pacific)
We accept cash, check or credit. We ship daily via FedEx, UPS.

Phone: 541-933-2880
Fax: 541-933-2302
Mail: 93256 Holland Lane, Marcola, OR 97454


-Mike

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> Anyone have their web page or Phone number???
>
> On 27 Jun 2008 at 17:33, Bill Masquelier wrote:
>
>>> When we were at Kate's a few days ago I saw that she had a flex-fan on
>>> her Midget! She said that they were avaliable from British parts
>>> Limited in Eugene, Oregon
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From lcjones at croakingfrog.net  Sat Jun 28 11:04:21 2008
From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:04:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Non-Ops - New Guitar Player, LBC owner content
In-Reply-To: <525515.99158.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <525515.99158.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48666F15.2070302@croakingfrog.net>

Gotta love those Gretsch's. Almost as cool as a LBC  :)

Here's my '05 6119 TR ...
http://www.chapmanjones.com/mp3/gretsch.mp3
(me and the Jangle Boys put this together)


Chap
72 RWA - Currently in Surgery
69 Spridget - DOA
******************************

Ron Soave wrote:
> Just got back from Brazil. Browsing mags at the airport, the new Guitar Player has a nice interview with our own Billy Zoom about the new Gretsch BZ model. Attaboy, Zoom! 
>
> Sweet noise, if you're not familiar - 
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=hQuLqwz-C-4
>
> Hope the LoTo goers are having a blast - wish I were there.
>
> Ron
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Sat Jun 28 11:38:53 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:38:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Non-Ops - New Guitar Player, LBC owner content
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Sorry but if you ain't caught Art Blakey on Gretsch toms you ain't
heard no drums.

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Jun 28 11:51:26 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:51:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
Message-ID: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>

My beast is a '65 Sprite.
On the drivers side of the tunnel is/was a place for the seat belt securing bolt.
One of the DPO's has cut this bolt off (!) leaving less than 1/8" of bolt 
showing... and then painted over it...
I would like to solicit ideas on how to remove this sawn off bolt so I can use the 
built in threaded part to install some proper seat belts...
I have no power tools --- only hand tools.

If this seems like a impossible task, has anybody had any experiences with the 
Moss Motors "Hook mount" or "snap mount" seat belts...e.g. their part #222-
239??

TIA....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 28 12:07:52 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:07:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
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I'd start with a Dremel and use a cutoff wheel to make a slot like a
slotted screw might have.   If a Dremel is not available, then maybe a
hacksaw to make the slot.
A good pair of Vicegrips might grab that 1/8",  or the right pipe wrench.
What's on the back side?  Can you get to the back side?
Failing everything else you can try drilling it out to just under the
minor diameter of the thread and prying the rest out.

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 28 12:36:15 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:36:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
Message-ID: <062820081836.22774.4866849F000E8C84000058F62216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

You can get an extractor.  You drill a hole into the broken/cut-off fastener, screw the extractor (reverse threads) into the hole, and just keep turning.  It pulls itself down into the hole (theoretically) and backs the stub out.  I have used them with varying degrees of success.  Not expensive.

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
> My beast is a '65 Sprite.
> On the drivers side of the tunnel is/was a place for the seat belt securing 
> bolt.
> One of the DPO's has cut this bolt off (!) leaving less than 1/8" of bolt 
> showing... and then painted over it...
> I would like to solicit ideas on how to remove this sawn off bolt so I can use 
> the 
> built in threaded part to install some proper seat belts...
> I have no power tools --- only hand tools.
> 
> If this seems like a impossible task, has anybody had any experiences with the 
> Moss Motors "Hook mount" or "snap mount" seat belts...e.g. their part #222-
> 239??
> 
> TIA....
> 
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 28 12:37:24 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:37:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Non-Ops - New Guitar Player, LBC owner content
Message-ID: <062820081837.24460.486684E4000EBF6300005F8C2216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Yep,  
Blakey is one of the great ones.

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


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From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>
> Sorry but if you ain't caught Art Blakey on Gretsch toms you ain't
> heard no drums.
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From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Sat Jun 28 12:50:19 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:50:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>
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Dave,

Do you have a drill?

If so,  go to your local hardware store (or Sears tool department)  
and get an "E-Z Out" screw/bolt extractor.  That;s a fairly large  
bolt so get an appropriate size extractor.  You'll need a drill bit  
to drill a pilot hole for the extractor.  The info on the extractor  
package should tell you what size pilot hole to drill.

Clean the area around the broken bolt (including the paint with a  
wire brush and a pick or a probe.  Get it as clean as you possibly can!

Spray the broken bolt with a good penetrating oil like Liquid Wrench,  
Busty, or PB Blaster......  (NOT WD40).  Let it set overnight with  
the penetrating oil on it and spray it again in the morning.  Shock  
it with a hammer several times but don't hit it hard enough to  
mushroom it.

If the bolt won't turn easily with the extractor, use a propane torch  
and heat the area around the bolt then try the extractor again.   
Repeat the heat, and try again.

It'll come out ;)

Kevin V.


On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> My beast is a '65 Sprite.
> On the drivers side of the tunnel is/was a place for the seat belt  
> securing bolt.
> One of the DPO's has cut this bolt off (!) leaving less than 1/8"  
> of bolt
> showing... and then painted over it...
> I would like to solicit ideas on how to remove this sawn off bolt  
> so I can use the
> built in threaded part to install some proper seat belts...
> I have no power tools --- only hand tools.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun 28 13:28:30 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:28:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <2AE80DC0-3476-48FD-BC45-8E55C078A3AE@valentinephoto.net>
References: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>
	<2AE80DC0-3476-48FD-BC45-8E55C078A3AE@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <000501c8d955$27240a20$e303f204@spider>

If you have a reversible drill, there are left-hand drill bits available. By
drilling a pilot hole you can really get a grip in it with a larger
left-hand drill bit. ..bill
===============================================================
On Jun 28, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> My beast is a '65 Sprite.
> On the drivers side of the tunnel is/was a place for the seat belt  
> securing bolt.
> One of the DPO's has cut this bolt off (!) leaving less than 1/8"  
> of bolt
> showing... and then painted over it...
> I would like to solicit ideas on how to remove this sawn off bolt  
> so I can use the
> built in threaded part to install some proper seat belts...
> I have no power tools --- only hand tools.
_______________________________________________

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sat Jun 28 14:36:07 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:36:07 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <4DC92B47CC9949C8AC0D4B38570EF6FF@GuyLaptop>

Dave,
Presumably the bolt head was cut off in the first place because the bolt was
siezed and wouldn't shift. If this is the case it is not going to be easy to
remove, especially with your limited hand tools.

I woulld not attempt to drill into the bolt as this will just weaken it.
Your best bet is to remove the seat and carpets to allow access and take it
to someone who can weld. They can then weld a nut onto the remaining portion
of the sawn off bolt.  The heat from welding will also help to loosen it.
With a nut welded on securely it should be possible to undo it.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: 28 June 2008 18:51
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??


My beast is a '65 Sprite.
On the drivers side of the tunnel is/was a place for the seat belt securing
bolt.
One of the DPO's has cut this bolt off (!) leaving less than 1/8" of bolt
showing... and then painted over it...
I would like to solicit ideas on how to remove this sawn off bolt so I can
use the
built in threaded part to install some proper seat belts...
I have no power tools --- only hand tools.

If this seems like a impossible task, has anybody had any experiences with
the
Moss Motors "Hook mount" or "snap mount" seat belts...e.g. their part #222-
239??

TIA....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From conan at intrex.net  Sat Jun 28 18:11:06 2008
From: conan at intrex.net (conan)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:11:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
Message-ID: <200806282011.AA855310406@intrex.net>

>>Okay I give up - how do you remove the headrests from '79 midget seats? Please don't say "They just pull out." 'cause these puppies don't.... 

  Well, actually... :-) 
  I'm afraid I do not know the -correct- way to get them out, but really, we did pull them out of my '73.  It just took a really, really hard pull!
  In fact, it was sooo hard...

...the headrest flew way up in the air and the guy pulling on it fell out the back of the car!
  "Now that was funny!  I don't care who ya are!"
  Ed in NC :-) :-) :-)

--
  "It followed me home, Mother.  Can I eat it?" - Ririt
--

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sat Jun 28 21:33:43 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:33:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive
Message-ID: <AFF4736D-F8C6-410A-B563-9EED051A5444@mac.com>

Hi Folks,

Just finished my first extended test drive (have done a few short  
trips) and the car is running almost they way I would like.  Under  
light throttle it has a pretty steady popping or rapping, sort of  
like a race car near idle.  Considerable rapping under hard  
deceleration. Then with light acceleration it will occasionally  
gasp.  It does fine under hard acceleration and at high rpm's.

Have just finished a tune up - - new plugs at 0.030 gap, valves set,  
timing at 22 BTDC, Pentronix ignition, some minor adjustment of the  
carb balance and fuel mixture.  Seems like it is still to rich but  
the jets are only out six flats and the mixture seems to be OK at idle.

Thoughts?

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Jun 29 00:11:56 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:11:56 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive
In-Reply-To: <AFF4736D-F8C6-410A-B563-9EED051A5444@mac.com>
Message-ID: <6A8A0F590B7D4681AF3968F2DB5DC648@GuyLaptop>

Hi Bob,
Do some plug cuts to see if they are looking OK for colour.
Popping from the exhaust could be an air leak somewhere on the exhaust
manifold, drawing in air,

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
Sent: 29 June 2008 04:34
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive


Hi Folks,

Just finished my first extended test drive (have done a few short
trips) and the car is running almost they way I would like.  Under
light throttle it has a pretty steady popping or rapping, sort of
like a race car near idle.  Considerable rapping under hard
deceleration. Then with light acceleration it will occasionally
gasp.  It does fine under hard acceleration and at high rpm's.

Have just finished a tune up - - new plugs at 0.030 gap, valves set,
timing at 22 BTDC, Pentronix ignition, some minor adjustment of the
carb balance and fuel mixture.  Seems like it is still to rich but
the jets are only out six flats and the mixture seems to be OK at idle.

Thoughts?

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition
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From bighealey at charter.net  Sun Jun 29 09:05:34 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:05:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
Message-ID: <000501c8d9f9$96fc9980$1002a8c0@TRACY>

Howdy folks.  I am restoring a 76 Midget.  I am a long time Healey List
member and have just embarked on a full resto for my daughter's first car.



I am sure I will have tons of questions as time goes along.  I have a Haynes
manual on it's way.  Should I also get the Bentley Spridget manual?



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 09:56:54 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:56:54 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4C439A1C976CA445BBE42C89C0@phx.gbl>

"6 flats"

Dead givaway, Bob...gotta be way too lean.

You should end up in vicinity of 12 flats  ass-u-me(ing) all else properly set with understanding you've added .005 to plug gap considering the PerTronix.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 10:09:23 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:09:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV689A2BE437ADF09470A39C89C0@phx.gbl>

Yeah, I know....I hated these things for blocking my peripheral vision though they can save your neck/life if rear-ended.

Anyway...
if they're anything like my PO'd '74 they pull out....and it takes a helluva pull in a MAJOR way. They're really in there!

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 10:16:53 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:16:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump JB Weld repair?  Lab Metal?
Message-ID: <E97CE677-656D-47FD-A162-26F8553B1697@comcast.net>

Morning all,

	I am in the process of fixing some little things on the Bugeye.  One  
of which is the fuel line routing.  I found a pic of where it goes and  
so far so good *EXCEPT* that I also found that a DPO had forced a  
5/16" fitting into the 1/4" fitting on the intake side of the fuel  
pump.  So now I need to repair the fuel pump threads.

	My first thought is a new mechanical fuel pump but they are  
unbotanium I see.  Next is helicoil but I find nothing in the right  
thread pitch/size.  Lastly is using JB Weld or Lab Metal.  Anyone have  
any thoughts on this or experience.

NOTE:
1.	the mechanical fuel pump is there for esthetics only, the diaphragm  
has been replaced with aluminum

2.	the new fuel line will have the loop of tubing before going into  
the pump that is to say NO rubber line before it is held in by the  
magic of chemistry..

Thanks as alway6s

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Jun 29 10:24:48 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:24:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV4C439A1C976CA445BBE42C89C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV4C439A1C976CA445BBE42C89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C3BA167F-C93B-4964-ADB6-26BE806176E5@mac.com>

My thought also but checking with a Color Tune indicates that I am  
still rich.  Perhaps there is some wear on the floats or float  
needles and the fuel level is to high.  Will have to check that after  
I get back from Conclave.

Off off and away.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> "6 flats"
>
> Dead givaway, Bob...gotta be way too lean.
>
> You should end up in vicinity of 12 flats  ass-u-me(ing) all else  
> properly set with understanding you've added .005 to plug gap  
> considering the PerTronix.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 10:26:16 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:26:16 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Test drive
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV71771614718E14D998908C89C0@phx.gbl>

"Float level off....too high"

Yep!! Have fun!! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Kitterer Bob
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:24 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Test drive

My thought also but checking with a Color Tune indicates that I am  
still rich.  Perhaps there is some wear on the floats or float  
needles and the fuel level is to high.  Will have to check that after  
I get back from Conclave.

Off off and away.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> "6 flats"
>
> Dead givaway, Bob...gotta be way too lean.
>
> You should end up in vicinity of 12 flats  ass-u-me(ing) all else  
> properly set with understanding you've added .005 to plug gap  
> considering the PerTronix.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Sun Jun 29 11:14:07 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:14:07 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Venting
Message-ID: <20080629.101407.26029.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

Now that I have a timing cover with a proper oil separator, compliments of the
"Bugeye Boys", I'm getting ready to hook up the vent tubing.  I have a vented
cap on the valve cover, a fitting installed in the mech fuel pump cover plate,
and the 'gulp valve' inlet plugged.  I intend to route the side vent and the
oil separator outlet to a 'catch tank'.

I'd really appreciate listers input on this.  Am I doing anything dumb?  What
alternative schemes would be suggested?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite



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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jun 29 11:18:24 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:18:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV689A2BE437ADF09470A39C89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C48D11F0.17F5E%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I've never believed that having a big lump between my shoulder blades was
safer.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 11:22:52 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:22:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Venting
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2C7F0A90FC4F518384974C89C0@phx.gbl>

Don't understand your question, Clay.....
just plug both hoses from  2 "outlets" into the catch can.

What else do you think needs to be done?

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 11:39:16 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:39:16 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV593CD42A7C03DEAFFA30CC89C0@phx.gbl>

"Headrests"

Same....

hate having my senses blocked to any extent unless absolutely necessary
...compromises my "situational awareness".

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 11:45:23 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:45:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ontario firm installs hydrogen filling station in
 Los Angeles
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV47A13289B9F18C987879DC89C0@phx.gbl>

It's gotta start somewhere! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 12:18:48 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:18:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV47A13289B9F18C987879DC89C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV47A13289B9F18C987879DC89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48676F98.4634.E539A4@dmg.bossig.com>

IIRC...
Hydrogen + oxygen +(spark) = explosion + (hot?) water
Hydrogen was the downfall of the Hindenburg
Water + iron = rust
Rust is the downfall of LBC's

Hmmmmm.....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 12:47:50 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:47:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <48676F98.4634.E539A4@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV47A13289B9F18C987879DC89C0@phx.gbl>
	<48676F98.4634.E539A4@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806291147i5e24ef75sbe4c368bc9d06f68@mail.gmail.com>

Do you need the Oxygen?  I though H plus spark equals boom?

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 12:48:10 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:48:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV1F9DC7A3214D994E06EDEC89C0@phx.gbl>

"Hydrogen = Hindenburg"

Yep...they'll have to find a safe way and they will in time,

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 12:57:40 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:57:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV1F9DC7A3214D994E06EDEC89C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV1F9DC7A3214D994E06EDEC89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910806291157x158a98ady9842bd9e1e8d46a0@mail.gmail.com>

If
Gas=$8 a gallon,
and
Hydrogen cost a fraction of that,
then
People won't worry about that old German Airship.

And, I think H2 may need some O2 to burn.  For auto use, surely it
will be a fuel/air mix, no?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 29 13:04:34 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:04:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Headrests gotta go
References: <BAY118-DAV593CD42A7C03DEAFFA30CC89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00bc01c8da1a$f851e2a0$6401a8c0@Larry>

hate having my senses blocked to any extent unless absolutely necessary


Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
_______________________________________________

Please take note of the incredible amount of self-control it took to not 
comment on that one. ;-))


Anon

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 29 13:07:03 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:07:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
Message-ID: <001201c8da1b$51b27080$8c1af304@spider>

(re-sending this. .bill)

It may have been the skin of the airship burning which caused most of the
heat, rather than hydrogen. .bill

http://hydrogentwo.com/hindenburg.html

 

=============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:19 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles

 

IIRC...

Hydrogen + oxygen +(spark) = explosion + (hot?) water

Hydrogen was the downfall of the Hindenburg

Water + iron = rust

Rust is the downfall of LBC's

 

Hmmmmm.....

 

--

Dave G.   KK7SS

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 13:11:34 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:11:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806291157x158a98ady9842bd9e1e8d46a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV1F9DC7A3214D994E06EDEC89C0@phx.gbl>,
	<5f00d9910806291157x158a98ady9842bd9e1e8d46a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48677BF6.17474.1158588@dmg.bossig.com>

When I was quite young, during WW2, gas was severely rationed and only 
for those with a war-related need (or buying Gas coupons on the Black 
Market !)...
I remember cars driving around with inflatable gas-bags on the roof...
But I think they were filled with something like propane...
 
With todays high pressure cylinders there could be a neater installation... 
but I almost had another heart attack when I found out how much it cost to 
fill the propane tank for my gas BBQ...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 13:13:37 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:13:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <001201c8da1b$51b27080$8c1af304@spider>
References: <001201c8da1b$51b27080$8c1af304@spider>
Message-ID: <48677C71.21438.117695B@dmg.bossig.com>

I believe it was the hydrogen that started it, and the flammable aluminum 
painted fabric that was the cause of the rapid burn and high temps...

I happened on the day I was born... coincidence???  Hmmmmmm!!

But you are correct  ;-))

On 29 Jun 2008 at 12:07, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

>> It may have been the skin of the airship burning which caused most of
>> the heat, rather than hydrogen. .bill


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 13:18:07 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:18:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <4DC92B47CC9949C8AC0D4B38570EF6FF@GuyLaptop>
References: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4DC92B47CC9949C8AC0D4B38570EF6FF@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <48677D7F.3899.11B86C3@dmg.bossig.com>

Thanks to all for their suggestions...
I'll start pulling the seats out today...
It won't be a comfortable job... the high temperature for today will reach 
106F
It was already 90F at 11:00 am..
And my garage is not air conditioned or heated  ;^((.
Such is life !

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 13:25:26 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:25:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <001201c8da1b$51b27080$8c1af304@spider>
Message-ID: <E1KD2WX-0006OR-8x@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:   "http://hydrogentwo.com/hindenburg.html"

 

I dunno, but when I see someone asserting that oil is "being criminally
burned and wasted", I tend to believe they have let their emotions run wild,
trampling rational reasoning.

 

Buster

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 29 13:42:49 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:42:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] heat stroke
In-Reply-To: <48677D7F.3899.11B86C3@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <486617AE.13347.DCCC89@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<4DC92B47CC9949C8AC0D4B38570EF6FF@GuyLaptop>
	<48677D7F.3899.11B86C3@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <001a01c8da20$515a7330$8c1af304@spider>

Oh man! Be careful. Drink lots of water, not beer or coffee which can
actually draw water out of your system.  
Or just cut yourself so slack and take the day off; surely it will be cooler
on Friday, July 4th? 
I've had heat stroke, due to my own stupidity, and it can really hurt.
...bill

======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:18 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??

Thanks to all for their suggestions...
I'll start pulling the seats out today...
It won't be a comfortable job... the high temperature for today will reach 
106F
It was already 90F at 11:00 am..
And my garage is not air conditioned or heated  ;^((.
Such is life !

--
Dave G.   KK7SS

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 14:23:53 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:23:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <48677BF6.17474.1158588@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <E1KD3R6-0001mK-MK@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote:  "When I was quite young, during WW2, gas was severely
rationed and only for those with a war-related need (or buying Gas coupons
on the Black Market !)...I remember cars driving around with inflatable
gas-bags on the roof...But I think they were filled with something like
propane..."

 

While gasoline rationing was extensive and tight, it did not prevent all
driving except for war-related need, or buying gasoline ration coupons on
the Black Market.   Everyone could buy gasoline, but there were limitations
depending upon need.  At first, we in California did not have rationing at
all, while those on the East Coast did.  When it began, everyone we knew had
a red "A" sticker on the windshield, and Dad could get about three gallons a
week.   When he was transferred by Douglas to Oklahoma City, we drove there
in late 1942.  Because he was a war worker at Douglas, Dad was given a "B"
sticker that entitled him to about 8-10 gallons a week.   People could build
up a reserve of gasoline by car-pooling, or taking the bus, that allowed for
some casual driving such as when we drove to see the results of a deadly
tornado on the other side of town.   Of course there were major exceptions
for truckers, doctors, etc.   My grandfather, a rural route mailman in Iowa,
was allowed enough gasoline to cover his route.  But I remember the really
privileged few (i.e. politicians, movie stars, etc.) got the sacred "X"
coupon, and with it, unlimited gas.   (The biggest limitation on driving was
the rationing on tires.   America's rubber source in the East Indies was cut
off, and synthetic rubber had yet to make any significant contribution.)

 

As far as the "inflatable gas bags", these were not a feature in America.
They were used sporadically in England and Germany during World 
War I.   In England, they were used (appropriately enough) on the "tipper
trucks", or what we would call garbage trucks, with the bags holding methane
gas.  Inflatable gas bags were again seen in Germany towards the end of
World War II when their Rumanian gas supplies had been cut off.

 

Buster

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jun 29 14:33:15 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:33:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
References: <BAY118-DAV1F9DC7A3214D994E06EDEC89C0@phx.gbl>,
	<5f00d9910806291157x158a98ady9842bd9e1e8d46a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<48677BF6.17474.1158588@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <009801c8da27$5c8ea0d0$01fea8c0@C600>

So use charcoal.  Cheaper, and better tasting meat to boot.

Kate

> but I almost had another heart attack when I found out how much it cost to
> fill the propane tank for my gas BBQ...

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 14:47:01 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:47:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] heat stroke*
Message-ID: <062920082047.18019.4867F4C5000AF8F3000046632215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Not to worry!  I've been around these Spridget guys before.  They aren't going to drink beer.  8^)

(Not to lessen Bill's crucial warning--stay hydrated and stay cool.)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> Oh man! Be careful. Drink lots of water, not beer or coffee which can
> actually draw water out of your system.  
> Or just cut yourself so slack and take the day off; surely it will be cooler
> on Friday, July 4th? 
> I've had heat stroke, due to my own stupidity, and it can really hurt.
> ...bill
> 
> ======================================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of Dave G.
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:18 PM
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
> 
> Thanks to all for their suggestions...
> I'll start pulling the seats out today...
> It won't be a comfortable job... the high temperature for today will reach 
> 106F
> It was already 90F at 11:00 am..
> And my garage is not air conditioned or heated  ;^((.
> Such is life !
> 
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 15:03:07 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:03:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <48677C71.21438.117695B@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave G.:   "I happened on the day I was born... coincidence???  Hmmmmmm!!"

 

No wonder you have the Arson Squad following you around like a shadow!!!!
My brother's first birthday was on the day they dropped the bomb on
Hiroshima.   He ain't NEVER gonna get another candle like he did on his
first birthday!   Well, Dave, at least you guys have a good reason to
remember historical dates.   Nuthin' never happened on August 22.   Is that
why no one remembers my birthday?

 

Buster

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 15:03:47 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:03:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
Message-ID: <062920082103.25522.4867F8B30009F518000063B22215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Tracy:

Yes, I would suggest getting the Bentley so you will have a couple of references.  I personally have operated without the Bentley--only the Haynes--with no problem, but it would be a good primary or secondary source of information.  S0ome of the guys here consider it primary.  

Also, another book that I have found invaluable is "Mg Midget, Austin Healey and Sprite Restoration Manual" by Lindsay Porter.   Get it at:  http://www.amazon.com/Midget-Austin-Healey-Restoration-Manuals/dp/1859606148/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1214773282&sr=8-1

When I checked there was only one left in stock. 

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Tracy Drummond" <bighealey at charter.net>
> Howdy folks.  I am restoring a 76 Midget.  I am a long time Healey List
> member and have just embarked on a full resto for my daughter's first car.
> 
> 
> 
> I am sure I will have tons of questions as time goes along.  I have a Haynes
> manual on it's way.  Should I also get the Bentley Spridget manual?
> 
> 
> 
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
> 
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 15:04:52 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
In-Reply-To: <000501c8d9f9$96fc9980$1002a8c0@TRACY>
Message-ID: <880177.9854.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tracy,
Welcome to the list.  I've found this list helpful many times since I first
signed on late last year.  As for the manual - get yourself a good manual -
Bentleys are among the best I've seen although there may be others out
there others on the list can recommend. 
 
I have not looked in a Haynes Spridget manual, but in the past have found them
(Haynes manuals) only borderline helpful - most of what's there you could have
figured out yourself.  They are I guess decent for general maintenance, but
fall far short for help in a restoration.  
 
Good Luck,
 - David
 
'71 Midget
- Long Island
 
 
 

--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:

From: Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:05 AM

Howdy folks.  I am restoring a 76 Midget.  I am a long time Healey List
member and have just embarked on a full resto for my daughter's first car.



I am sure I will have tons of questions as time goes along.  I have a Haynes
manual on it's way.  Should I also get the Bentley Spridget manual?



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 15:08:25 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:08:25 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2E9197F276E3892AFA4EDC89C0@phx.gbl>

You know, Buster, I learn all sorts of good
stuff from you. Glad you're on the list. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 29 15:10:13 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:10:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] infamous birthdays
In-Reply-To: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <48677C71.21438.117695B@dmg.bossig.com>
	<E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003001c8da2c$86c012d0$8c1af304@spider>

I was born nine months after Pearl Harbor; my mother claims it had nothing
to do with it. ...bill
=====================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of B- Evans
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:03 PM
To: dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles

Dave G.:   "I happened on the day I was born... coincidence???  Hmmmmmm!!"

No wonder you have the Arson Squad following you around like a shadow!!!!
My brother's first birthday was on the day they dropped the bomb on
Hiroshima.   He ain't NEVER gonna get another candle like he did on his
first birthday!   Well, Dave, at least you guys have a good reason to
remember historical dates.   Nuthin' never happened on August 22.   Is that
why no one remembers my birthday? 

Buster
_______________________________________________

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 15:18:35 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
Message-ID: <062920082118.24644.4867FC2B00073319000060442215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

I disagree on the Haynes--they actually have pretty good breakdowns, pictures, and schematics covering most aspects of Spridget work.  When I got my first Sprite, I used the Haynes (almost) exclusively to rebuild the engine--something I had never done before.  But it is excellent to have a reference library of more than just one source--one will have stuff the other doesn't.  

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> Tracy,
> Welcome to the list.  I've found this list helpful many times since I first
> signed on late last year.  As for the manual - get yourself a good manual -
> Bentleys are among the best I've seen although there may be others out
> there others on the list can recommend. 
>  
> I have not looked in a Haynes Spridget manual, but in the past have found them
> (Haynes manuals) only borderline helpful - most of what's there you could have
> figured out yourself.  They are I guess decent for general maintenance, but
> fall far short for help in a restoration.  
>  
> Good Luck,
>  - David
>  
> '71 Midget
> - Long Island
>  
>  
>  
> 
> --- On Sun, 6/29/08, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76 Midget)
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:05 AM
> 
> Howdy folks.  I am restoring a 76 Midget.  I am a long time Healey List
> member and have just embarked on a full resto for my daughter's first car.
> 
> 
> 
> I am sure I will have tons of questions as time goes along.  I have a Haynes
> manual on it's way.  Should I also get the Bentley Spridget manual?
> 
> 
> 
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
> 
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
> You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> 
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 15:22:04 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:22:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV44C1ABB265A68D0C130E0C89C0@phx.gbl>

"When gas goes to $8.00 per gallon..."

...for sure, Derf. Hydrogen normally doesn't
combust spontaneously and just blow up. 

It needs a source of ignition to burn. But combine it with dope-covered fabric and yeah...you've got a Hindenberg "flashfire"
OK! :)

CapBob

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: derf
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:57 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles

If
Gas=$8 a gallon,
and
Hydrogen cost a fraction of that,
then
People won't worry about that old German Airship.

And, I think H2 may need some O2 to burn.  For auto use, surely it
will be a fuel/air mix, no?

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 15:29:15 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:29:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump JB Weld repair?  Lab Metal?
In-Reply-To: <E97CE677-656D-47FD-A162-26F8553B1697@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <864997.86972.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just successfully replaced everything except the metal fuel line on my '71. 
Not sure how different it is from a Bugeye, but suspect there are changes as
mine came with an electric SU pump at the rear (no mechanical pump like you
mentioned).  If you want to change over to this set-up it seems to be working
so far.  Here's what I did:
 
>From the tank, I used the original metal line, then new 1/4" rubber hose to
the in-line filter which screws into the Mr. Gasket aftermarket electric pump
I got from Advance.  This I mounted into the stock mounts near the RR wheel
via a length of metal strap leftover in my tool box from some stereo install
years ago.  From there, you go back to more new rubber hose, then to the rear
of the metal fuel line.  In the engine compartment, I ran new hose from
the other end of the metal line to an adjustable pressure regulator - set at 2
psi - and from there through a second inline filter, this one a glass one with
changable filter element and from there to the front carb.  All told, I used
12 new hose clamps (counting the two on the hose between the carbs that I
didn't do yet as I ran out of hose...).
 
All works well, with the possible exception that the Mr. Gasket pump is a bit
on the loud side.  Once the car starts up you can't hear it though, so no big
deal.
 
I think it was about $40 for the pump, maybe $8 for the glass filter, a few
bucks for the hose, and about 50 cents each for the clamps.  The regulator
would have been another $30, but I got a freebie from a friend.
 
Hope this helps, if not I still got to brag a bit about my new fuel system...
 
 - David


--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump JB Weld repair? Lab Metal?
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 11:16 AM

Morning all,

	I am in the process of fixing some little things on the Bugeye.  One
of which is the fuel line routing.  I found a pic of where it goes and
so far so good *EXCEPT* that I also found that a DPO had forced a
5/16" fitting into the 1/4" fitting on the intake side of the fuel
pump.  So now I need to repair the fuel pump threads.

	My first thought is a new mechanical fuel pump but they are
unbotanium I see.  Next is helicoil but I find nothing in the right
thread pitch/size.  Lastly is using JB Weld or Lab Metal.  Anyone have
any thoughts on this or experience.

NOTE:
1.	the mechanical fuel pump is there for esthetics only, the diaphragm
has been replaced with aluminum

2.	the new fuel line will have the loop of tubing before going into
the pump that is to say NO rubber line before it is held in by the
magic of chemistry..

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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 15:37:35 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:37:35 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV9B86C2F338E6EE058D2DBC89C0@phx.gbl>

Just mailed the ebay guy who's selling these and got a set of 8 for $22.00 including shipping.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 29 15:38:10 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:38:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
References: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <011501c8da30$6d857f90$6401a8c0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: <dmg at bossig.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles


Dave G.:   "I happened on the day I was born... coincidence???  Hmmmmmm!!"

 

No wonder you have the Arson Squad following you around like a shadow!!!!
My brother's first birthday was on the day they dropped the bomb on
Hiroshima.   He ain't NEVER gonna get another candle like he did on his
first birthday!   Well, Dave, at least you guys have a good reason to
remember historical dates.   Nuthin' never happened on August 22.   Is that
why no one remembers my birthday?

 

Buster
_______________________________________________

What makes you think we don't remember, Buster?  

We just aren't buying you anything. ;-))

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 15:50:22 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
Message-ID: <524524.26435.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just had to tell somebody this news:  I took a test drive today and for the
first time this season it started, idled out fairly smooth and ran for the
duration till I got back to the garage.  Seems like a good sign.  So far,
everytime I've gotten ready for a test drive, I've only been successful in
discovering the next weakest link in the systems.  Lets see, there was the
brake hydraulics, then there was the cooling, then the battery, then the fuel
system, then the alternator mounts, then the smoking belt (my bad on the
alignment job there...)  Anyway - I did a bit of driving and made it home
without steam, coolant, fuel, brake fluid or smoke coming out, and all the
bits stayed on too.  Life is good.  (hope I didn't just jinx myself there) 
 
Will keep you all informed as the driving season progresses.
 
David
'71 Midget
Long Island

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 15:54:06 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:54:06 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2E24033C8BA9B6D31AD6FC89C0@phx.gbl>

And just in time, David.

Looking south across the Sound from my window on the shore in Stamford, it's lookin' like it's about to get a little wet out your way....maybe mine as well! :)
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 16:02:53 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LoTo and Re: First Post to Spridgets (Restoring 76
 Midget)
Message-ID: <196772.83799.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 6/29/08, dlancer7676 at comcast.net <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I disagree on the Haynes--they actually have pretty good
> breakdowns, pictures, and schematics covering most aspects
> of Spridget work. 

I agree with David's disagree(?). I think Haynes has an error on camshaft installation, but otherwise I tend to reach for it more than the others. Usually, turns out like the great Paul A. says - "it only goes one way."

Word from LoTo was that it was a very special event, and that from Peter C. who doesn't usually talk like that.

Ron

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Jun 29 16:03:06 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:03:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
In-Reply-To: <524524.26435.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <524524.26435.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4868069A.5000409@verizon.net>

    So, next time you are planning on getting all the way out of the 
garage?   :^)

    Later,

                                                                   CB

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 29 16:26:28 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:26:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
In-Reply-To: <4868069A.5000409@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <523410.61718.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"So, next time you are planning on getting all the way out of the
garage?   :^)      CB  "
 
                                                        
 
 
Thanks for the idea Charley, I'll give it some thought for next weekend and
report back...    ;-)
 
 - David

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 16:30:28 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:30:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil ( no direct LBC )
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV7B6BBCB877C96C21E27D6C89C0@phx.gbl>

Gasoline is as much an every day necessity as  electricity these days.

Thus, these are special circumstances possibly calling for special rules with respect to commodity speculators?

People have to get to work you know and often in suburban areas this involves commuting wherein public tranporation
may leave something to be desired.

I hope Obama sticks to his "no domestic
drilling" agenda for the sake of all
concerned!!! :):)

And McCain logically modifies his view to 
dril domesticallyl to include that teeniest, tineyest NE portion of ANWR along with offshore and other domestic drilling alternatives.

We use a lot of oil/gasoline. We should be
contributing to the global pool accordingly.

We in the US need to "rebalance" enviro issues with energy issues. Obviously Congress, responsible for initiating and passing all legislation has once again effed
it all up. What a bunch of irresponsible,
incompetent trogs!  A$$holes!!!

I mean obviously, what good is an enviromentally pristine nation if we can't
afford to live in it??? 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 29 16:48:30 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:48:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] rivergate speedo adaptor...issues
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3FB4775C540D5DCE727D4C89C0@phx.gbl>

I've the same problem with my Rivergate
adopter. Every few thousand miles I have to get my hand down there and "reset" it. It just went again a few hundred miles ago. I'm not going to bother with it anymore. The hell with it.

The tach works (and I don't even need this any more!:)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 29 17:02:42 2008
From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
References: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<011501c8da30$6d857f90$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <001c01c8da3c$3cf03fd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca>

The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was overthrown by the U.S 
CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) on Aug 22, 1953... (the day I 
was born)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
> To: <dmg at bossig.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
>
>
> Dave G.:   "I happened on the day I was born... coincidence???  Hmmmmmm!!"
>
>
>
> No wonder you have the Arson Squad following you around like a shadow!!!!
> My brother's first birthday was on the day they dropped the bomb on
> Hiroshima.   He ain't NEVER gonna get another candle like he did on his
> first birthday!   Well, Dave, at least you guys have a good reason to
> remember historical dates.   Nuthin' never happened on August 22.   Is 
> that
> why no one remembers my birthday?
>
>
>
> Buster
> _______________________________________________
>
> What makes you think we don't remember, Buster?
>
> We just aren't buying you anything. ;-))
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From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 17:38:28 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:38:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <001c01c8da3c$3cf03fd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca>
References: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<001c01c8da3c$3cf03fd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca>
Message-ID: <4867BA84.29173.209E1AF@dmg.bossig.com>

The more I read about "youse guys" anniversaries, the older I feel   ;^((

I went to a wine tasting last night.... the only thing there that was older than 
me was the granite counter top ..!!!

On 29 Jun 2008 at 19:02, Craig wrote:
>> The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was overthrown by
>> the U.S CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) on Aug 22,
>> 1953... (the day I was born)

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Sun Jun 29 17:47:03 2008
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:47:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV9B86C2F338E6EE058D2DBC89C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV9B86C2F338E6EE058D2DBC89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <90F333D7B8674E1BB5B9D3C10E9D056B@cooper>

What size did you purchase

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cooper6=swbell.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cooper6=swbell.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:38 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals

Just mailed the ebay guy who's selling these and got a set of 8 for $22.00
including shipping.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From p.herder at cox.net  Sun Jun 29 18:11:25 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:11:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tequila Brad's "A" engine stand - IT LIVES!!
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F37C93D7DDDCB5B3D0A7B00B8AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F37C93D7DDDCB5B3D0A7B00B8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <486824AD.50501@cox.net>

At LotO, I helped Tequila Brad wire his remains of a 65 Sprite that was 
in a garage when the garage burned.

Some of the wiring was a little crispy.  ;^)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40PiJdCmVI

Now he can test engines, generators, transmissions BEFORE they go into a 
car.

Not the best quality but it was taken with a "cheap" digital camera 
which just happen to have a "movie" function.


Paul
66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS
currently a bare tub

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 18:16:02 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Tequila Brads's "A" engine stand -
 IT LIVES!!
In-Reply-To: <486824A9.3080108@cox.net>
References: <g496fh+hnm1@eGroups.com> <486824A9.3080108@cox.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806291716i63c0f980w1eef87541c1f7828@mail.gmail.com>

Paul, THANK YOU!! for all your help getting my project finished. I still
can't stop smiling about how nice it will be to tune up the engine, BEFORE
it goes into the car.

My thanks also go out to John Kudzman for his help, Kim Webb for supplying
the points and condenser, and of course, Jack Laird, for his unflagging
supervision of this project.

Brad

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Paul Herder <p.herder at cox.net> wrote:

> At LotO, I helped Tequila Brad wire his remains of a 65 Sprite that was
> in a garage when the garage burned.
>
> Some of the wiring was a little crispy.  ;^)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40PiJdCmVI
>
> Now he can test engines, generators, transmissions BEFORE they go into a
> car.
>
> Not the best quality but it was taken with a "cheap" digital camera
> which just happen to have a "movie" function.
>
>
> Paul
> 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS
> currently a bare tub
>
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 18:18:39 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:18:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] viton valve stem seals
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV9B86C2F338E6EE058D2DBC89C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV9B86C2F338E6EE058D2DBC89C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <531B5E70-7D0F-4B64-8A46-9A286D561034@comcast.net>

Me too...  why do you need them?

Lester


On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:37 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> Just mailed the ebay guy who's selling these and got a set of 8 for  
> $22.00 including shipping.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jun 29 18:21:20 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:21:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rant-heater blower motor housing
In-Reply-To: <062920082103.25522.4867F8B30009F518000063B22215593414C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080630002122.NJMZ22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi all-
So OK, I'm getting things in order...engine in properly (thanks for all the
tips and tricks, did it twice after I realized I had forgotten the tranny
mount), sorting out painted over wiring from the DPO...guess you guys know
the drill all too well.

I am blessed I guess with two decent heater blowers, but of course the one
with the better sounding and feeling motor has a cracked housing.  I have an
uncracked housing that is real clean.

A 4 inch piece of duct tape would be the end all be all, but with a shiny
clean hosing on my bench, I cannot neglect it.

To be blunt, how the heck can I separate this %(^*&$ thing safely?  Do I
drill all those small bolts off? There is no way I can get a wrench in that
thing unless I use my 6 year old's hands.


Chris
66MKIII

Brookfield, WI

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jun 29 18:40:20 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:40:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
In-Reply-To: <524524.26435.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080630004022.NSUD22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

That is encouraging news, going down the same path...

How tall is the mast, do you deploy the 'schut for passing, and how many
lanes does it take to tac?

Kidding of course, and envious. My previous money pit came from your area.
Maybe its your water... :)

Chris

66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Booker
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:50 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...

Just had to tell somebody this news:  I took a test drive today and for the
first time this season it started, idled out fairly smooth and ran for the
duration till I got back to the garage.  Seems like a good sign.  So far,
everytime I've gotten ready for a test drive, I've only been successful in
discovering the next weakest link in the systems.  Lets see, there was the
brake hydraulics, then there was the cooling, then the battery, then the
fuel
system, then the alternator mounts, then the smoking belt (my bad on the
alignment job there...)  Anyway - I did a bit of driving and made it home
without steam, coolant, fuel, brake fluid or smoke coming out, and all the
bits stayed on too.  Life is good.  (hope I didn't just jinx myself there) 
 
Will keep you all informed as the driving season progresses.
 
David
'71 Midget
Long Island

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 18:42:16 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:42:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <001c01c8da3c$3cf03fd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca>
Message-ID: <E1KD7TA-0002e5-EU@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Craig wrote:   "The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was
overthrown by the U.S CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) on Aug
22, 1953... (the day I was born)



Alas, we have so many who never lived through an era first-hand, yet wish to
ignore the reality of history, preferring instead to follow the questionable
lead of those who would denigrate the United States.  Thus, they prefer to
see world affairs in easily simplistic black and white.



1 -- The early 1950s were some of the most dangerous years of the Cold War
as the term duck and cover and backyard bomb shelters were daily reminders
of the conflict.   Despite the presence of those who faintly said, Id
rather be Red than dead, Americans were remarkably united in their
opposition to the spread of Communism.



2 -- Both the West and USSR each sought to gain client states--Persia being
one.



3 -- Mohammad Mosaddeq was hardly the poster boy for clean government, and
was never, ever democratically elected by the people.



4 -- Mosaddeq became prime minister ONLY through the assassination of the
prime minister legitimately elected by parliament;  a prime minister who
favored the Shah and opposed the nationalistic demands of Mosaddeq.



5 -- Backed by Iranian Communists, Mosaddeq masterminded the nationalization
of Iranian oil facilities, even though it was literally incapable of
managing the industry WITHOUT the aid and presence of the Soviet Union, a
factor directly imperiling American influence and interests in an unstable
area of the world.



6 -- As Mosaddeq turned sharply towards imposing a Communist government on
Persia, both the Persian middle class and the Shia raised serious opposition
and engaged in plots.  The Shia were particularly fearful of religious
repression under a Communist government.



7 -- The overthrow of Mosaddeq may have been encouraged and funded, in part
by British Government with the legal and legitimate assistance of the CIA,
but it was still a POPULAR uprising.



8 -- Great Britain, not the U.S., was the primary mover in the Wests
opposition to Mosaddeq.  It was the British Anglo-Iranian Oil Company that
had been stripped of his property, assets and investments.



It is incredibly naove, if not deliberately misleading and wrong-headed to
assert, The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was overthrown
by the U.S CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) 



And now, back to your regularly scheduled program.



(Just remember, I did not introduce the subject of Persian politics.)

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 19:11:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:11:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] To those returning from LoTO...
Message-ID: <4867D049.5085.25EEBC3@dmg.bossig.com>

I wish you all clear roads, kindly traffic and cloudless skies for the journey 
home...
The pictures look great...
No '65's ??? Sob, Sob  ;^))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From trevorwj at insightbb.com  Sun Jun 29 19:43:47 2008
From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:43:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>
	<029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
Message-ID: <8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to attempt to edit together a video of some of the tech
sessions, but it will take me awhile to do it, and I'll need to have
it reviewed by the presenter before posting it.

Trevor

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Is anybody videotaping the tech sessions for the benefit of those of us who
> cannot attend?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:57 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
>
>
> I'm at the Super 8 in Osage Beach until I move over to the Grand Glaize
> tomorrow.
>
> 2013 miles and no mechanical issues at all!!  NOW I have something to say
> about Megasquirt at my tech session.
>
> If you've ever imagined the romance and adventure of driving a classic
> car cross country and living life on the road like they did in the
> 50's..........
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From smarc at smarc.net  Sun Jun 29 19:47:13 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:47:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing?
Message-ID: <48683B21.3000408@smarc.net>

Need some advice -

To make a long story short, I pulled my engine & trans, installed a new 
clutch, pressure plate and carbon release bearing. Installed a new slave 
hose and cylinder (hose was cracked, cylinder was sort of seeping). 
Installed a rebuilt transmission.

After much difficulty bleeding the stinking clutch, I was rewarded with 
a solid clutch pedal, good action.

Only problem, the clutch just would NOT release. Not able to shift into 
gear at all. If starting in gear, a little clutch action was observed, 
but it wouldn't fully release. Visual inspection showed good travel, 
could see the release bearing releasing the plate...

At that point I was fully convinced I had done something stupid, 
backwards clutch disk or something. So, today I pulled the motor & trans 
again. The clutch was properly oriented, and everything looked ok.

The old clutch was actually OK, might have been fairly recent from it's 
looks. I only replaced it because it seemed the sensible thing to do 
while I had everything out and apart. So, at a loss as to what the 
problem was, I reinstalled the original pressure plate and clutch and 
put it all back together. I left the new carbon faced bearing installed 
in the fork. There was a roller type bearing that I had originally 
removed, but it had a plastic body with obvious thermal damage...

Clutch now releases and acts like it should, save for one problem: On 
the initial testing, my son noticed some white smoke - I got out to look 
and there was a fair amount of white smoke coming out of the top 
inspection hole on the transmission. I've smelled roasted clutch before, 
that's NOT what this smelled like. It smelled more like a burning 
electrical component....

Incidentally, while I did not see any smoke with the new pressure plate 
& clutch installed, I did smell the exact same smell, so likely this 
occurred as well, but not to the same extent as I was unable to drive 
the car then.

Now what?? Could there be a problem with the new release bearing? I hate 
to think I have to pull the engine a third time...


-- 

Marc

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 29 20:20:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:20:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu><029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C855BC6E04B7404283FC24ADFDC34ED8@midget>

Just in case any of you were worried, Trish and I arrived safely home after 
an uneventful drive (the best kind?).
The LotO event was OUTSTANDING! Thank you so much, Jim!!!
I think Bill Loeb expressed it best when he said, "I didn't meet anyone here 
I would not like to see again,." A good time with good friends and good 
cars.
David Lieb 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 20:46:07 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:46:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] To those returning from LoTO...
In-Reply-To: <4867D049.5085.25EEBC3@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <E1KD9P0-0001jD-Pq@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote:   "I wish you all clear roads, kindly traffic and cloudless
skies for the journey home... The pictures look great...  No '65's ??? Sob,
Sob  ;^))"

 

I'll second that, Dave, but will add a double sob because I could not be
there!!!   I just wish there had been more photos!

 

Buster

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jun 29 21:20:40 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO
Message-ID: <48685108.2050909@wi.net>

I just want to put in my 2 bucks (inflation!).  What a great event LOTO 
was!!!  The organizers, Jim Johnson, Frank, Peter, Jack, Phil, David, 
Willy, and I know I'm forgetting a bunch of great folks and I do 
apologize, put together an outstanding event.  It wasn't easy but it 
turned out well.  My wife and I have never seen so many Spridgets in one 
place.  Anyone get a breakdown of how many of each type?  I counted ~30 
Bugeyes.

Sometimes we forget our "better-halfs" as we communicate day after day.  
Terri had a wonderful time as she now knows many of the Spridgeteers 
with whom I communicate....even "Guess Who?".  Because our wives and 
significant others got together I believe our Spridget Membership has 
doubled.  Terri asked, "When are we going again?"  That made me feel 
good as I was worried she might be bored "just tagging along".  All the 
people were great and we enjoyed putting the faces to the signatures on 
our emails.  We have a wonderful "Family" and I think a 2nd Family 
Reunion is in order.

To all of you who could not attend, for whatever reason, we have 
something special with this list.  To those that did attend we hope all 
made/make it home safely and without any difficulties.   Until next 
time......

Thanks for a great time!
Dave & Terri Woerpel
59 :{)
Burlington WI

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 29 21:29:57 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:29:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <390508.1214508674465.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0556E8D10CC24809A773171FFEF1DAB1@midget>

>>>From the early 20th century until the late 1960's or early 1970's, the 
>>>FIA
>>had dictated national colors in Grand Prix racing, and green was the color
>>assigned to England.   That is also why Ferraris were red!

But the colours were supposed to indicate the nationality of the DRIVER, not 
the car. 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Jun 29 21:34:18 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:34:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
References: <4DC92B47CC9949C8AC0D4B38570EF6FF@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <69EDC43E8B6D494DA64057872F3FC50A@midget>

> I have no power tools --- only hand tools.

An Amish Spridgeter? What will happen when you finally get it running?

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 21:39:36 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:39:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <69EDC43E8B6D494DA64057872F3FC50A@midget>
Message-ID: <E1KDAEm-0002Ws-05@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote:  "An Amish Spridgeter? What will happen when you finally
get it running?"

 

Silly!   He will just hitch it up to Old Bessie, hang some red lanterns on
the boot, and be off to the nearest gymkhana!

 

Buster

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 21:58:08 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <E1KDAEm-0002Ws-05@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <69EDC43E8B6D494DA64057872F3FC50A@midget>,
	<E1KDAEm-0002Ws-05@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>

Well.... let me see....
I could drive it to the next town, where one of my boys has a goodly selection of power 
tools.
Then I could get the broken bits out and put the seat belts in...

Ooops... nearly forgot; WA state has a "click it or ticket" law and our LEO's are quite 
enthusiastic about the 'ticket' part...

So, if I put the seat belts in, I can drive it to my boys' house, where we can remove the 
broken bits, so I can fit the seat belts, so I can drive it to his house....

Hmmm.... I missed something in there, didn't I?? Catch 22? It's worth $175 to the state  ;^))

Welcome back to the madhouse, folks...

On 29 Jun 2008 at 20:39, B- Evans wrote:

>> David Lieb wrote:  "An Amish Spridgeter? What will happen when you
>> finally get it running?"
>> 
>> Silly!   He will just hitch it up to Old Bessie, hang some red
>> lanterns on the boot, and be off to the nearest gymkhana!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 22:13:59 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:13:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <0556E8D10CC24809A773171FFEF1DAB1@midget>
Message-ID: <E1KDAm2-0002SC-QO@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote:  "But the colours were supposed to indicate the
nationality of the DRIVER, not the car

 

Nope.  See:

http://atlasf1.autosport.com/2000/feb09/faq.html

http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-international-auto-racing-colors

http://www.kolumbus.fi/leif.snellman/gpw5.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_auto_racing_colors

 

Buster

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 22:26:49 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:26:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <69EDC43E8B6D494DA64057872F3FC50A@midget>
	<E1KDAEm-0002Ws-05@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806292126n30df714ex5b21a1d1f296863b@mail.gmail.com>

So as long as your seat-belt is buckled do you really think anyone will look
to see if it is properly attached to the vehicle?

I'm betting they wouldn't even notice.

From davriker at nwi.net  Sun Jun 29 22:38:03 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:38:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing?
References: <48683B21.3000408@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <015901c8da6b$15abde00$6600a8c0@dave>

I'm going to make some guesses, as it has been over ten years ago that I 
switched to the Datsun Transmission and clutch.

The original carbon throw out bearing really shouldn't be called a bearing 
at all.  It is a slow wearing carbon face that always is in contact with the 
metal face on the pressure plate fingers.  Kind of like a "clutch in a 
clutch" arrangement.  Since you installed the old pressure plate with the 
new carbon bearing, the metal face could have been scarred or worn in such a 
way that it is rapidly scraping away at the carbon surface.  this seems 
likely since it had a roller bearing before, which would have left scrapes 
in the metal part of the pressure plate.

Also likely, any grease, oil or dirt between these two surfaces, i.e. if oil 
got on the carbon bearing, it would burn off.  This would be less of a 
problem than the other senario, as eventually all of the oil will burn away.
Solution, live with it till it fails, or pull it out again, and replace the 
pressure plate and throw out bearing as a pair, never just one or the other. 
My preference is the roller style bearing, but it's kind of like cats and 
politics around here, we seem split 50/50 on which is best.  My experience 
is that the roller bearing always made some noise, but functioned far longer 
than the carbon bearings did.

Permanent solution is to put in the Datsun 5 speed kit from Paul A. of this 
list.
David Riker
74 Midget
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing?


> Need some advice -
 So, at a loss as to what the
> problem was, I reinstalled the original pressure plate and clutch and
> put it all back together. I left the new carbon faced bearing installed
> in the fork. There was a roller type bearing that I had originally
> removed, but it had a plastic body with obvious thermal damage...
>
> Clutch now releases and acts like it should, save for one problem: On
> the initial testing, my son noticed some white smoke - I got out to look
> and there was a fair amount of white smoke coming out of the top
> inspection hole on the transmission. I've smelled roasted clutch before,
> that's NOT what this smelled like. It smelled more like a burning
> electrical component....

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Jun 29 22:43:28 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:43:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0806292126n30df714ex5b21a1d1f296863b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <69EDC43E8B6D494DA64057872F3FC50A@midget>,
	<4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<8de85a9c0806292126n30df714ex5b21a1d1f296863b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48680200.19416.3211CA7@dmg.bossig.com>

Doh! You are probably right on with that remark...
Hadn't been thinking deviously enough...

On 29 Jun 2008 at 23:26, Jethro wrote:

>> So as long as your seat-belt is buckled do you really think anyone
>> will look to see if it is properly attached to the vehicle?   I'm
>> betting they wouldn't even notice.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 23:04:31 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:04:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] First successful test drive of the season...
In-Reply-To: <20080630004022.NSUD22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <524524.26435.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20080630004022.NSUD22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0806292204v1a6995d5of46a1d402c31198@mail.gmail.com>

I'm still smiling ear-to-ear after getting my '73 back on the road today for
the first time since the clutch hydraulics failed late last summer!

Took a shake down cruise this evening that went very well and I'll be
driving it to work tomorrow (for my final day prior to a layoff)!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 01:22:36 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 00:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <0556E8D10CC24809A773171FFEF1DAB1@midget>
Message-ID: <12147.44889.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"But the colours were supposed to indicate the nationality of the DRIVER, not
the car."
 
Actually, the cars were painted the national color of the team (or in
Germany's case, were sometimes the silver of the metal as opposed to paint
because it weighed less).  The Drivers' nationality was represented by the
color of his Helmet.  At least that's the way I remember it from the books
I've read on the subject...
 
 - David

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 03:11:11 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:11:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <C855BC6E04B7404283FC24ADFDC34ED8@midget>
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>
	<029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com>
	<C855BC6E04B7404283FC24ADFDC34ED8@midget>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806300211w57d44346r5fb8363c13c98bd0@mail.gmail.com>

Martha and I took 12 hours for the 550 mile trip. We lost a tire on the
borrowed trailer in Caney OK. The thing had been getting squirrelly and
would sway side to side when we hit any bumps. We were doing 60 mph on the
way home, rather than the 70-75 that we did on the way up. It was not a huge
surprise when the tire went.
Unfortunately for us, the guy who loaned us the trailer, didn't know what
the bolt pattern of the tire was, so I wasn't able to procure a spare prior
to leaving. So I was regaled to unloading the Sprite, removing the bar from
the trunk, and fitting a 15" trailer tire in there, and start searching for
someone willing to change a tire at around noon on Sunday.
There was a truck stop down the road, and the gal behind the counter was
kind enough to place a few calls for me. The first place, the lady on the
other end started yelling, when she asked if Otis (swear on a Bible, that
was his name) wanted to change a tire. The next place was willing, so down
the dirt roads I ran.
Talk about banjo time.....
I pull up into the driveway, and a little boy, about 9 or 10 comes out to
the car, 3 dogs in tow. Little sis arrives while I am trying to unwedge the
remains of the tire from the boot. I get it out just in time to see an aging
biker come out. He directs me to his shed, which houses a bike, a trike, and
a tire changing machine. I was avoiding bumping the fender on the trike the
entire time I moved around the shop helping him.
The kids come running up with a 12 pack box, on end, with a turtle shoved in
it, proudly showing off their new pet.
What an experience.....
After about an hour, we were back on the road. Thank goodness we had the
Sprite as a "spare"....

I also met many fine folks, and hope that we can have another "50th"
gathering soon..

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:20 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
wrote:

> Just in case any of you were worried, Trish and I arrived safely home after
> an uneventful drive (the best kind?).
> The LotO event was OUTSTANDING! Thank you so much, Jim!!!
> I think Bill Loeb expressed it best when he said, "I didn't meet anyone
> here
> I would not like to see again,." A good time with good friends and good
> cars.
> David Lieb
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From davegran at ticon.net  Mon Jun 30 03:43:05 2008
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:43:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
References: <mailman.17300.1214774304.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4868AAA8.E31@ticon.net>

> Subject: 
Dave G. wrote:  

> "When I was quite young, during WW2, gas was severely
> rationed and only for those with a war-related need (or buying Gas coupons
> on the Black Market !)...I remember cars driving around with inflatable
> gas-bags on the roof...But I think they were filled with something like
> propane..."
> 

Do a Google on "Producer Gas" for many hours of informational
surfing....

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jun 30 07:11:12 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:11:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806300211w57d44346r5fb8363c13c98bd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>
	<029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com>
	<C855BC6E04B7404283FC24ADFDC34ED8@midget>
	<e98d88090806300211w57d44346r5fb8363c13c98bd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4868DB70.3010309@wi.net>

Brad,

Sure sounds like Tequila time to me!  Can't wait to hear other homeward 
stories.
Glad you made it home safely.  Squeal like a pig!
Dave
59 :{)

Brad Fornal wrote:
> Martha and I took 12 hours for the 550 mile trip. We lost a tire on the
> borrowed trailer in Caney OK. The thing had been getting squirrelly and
> would sway side to side when we hit any bumps. We were doing 60 mph on the
> way home, rather than the 70-75 that we did on the way up. It was not a huge
> surprise when the tire went.
> Unfortunately for us, the guy who loaned us the trailer, didn't know what
> the bolt pattern of the tire was, so I wasn't able to procure a spare prior
> to leaving. So I was regaled to unloading the Sprite, removing the bar from
> the trunk, and fitting a 15" trailer tire in there, and start searching for
> someone willing to change a tire at around noon on Sunday.
> There was a truck stop down the road, and the gal behind the counter was
> kind enough to place a few calls for me. The first place, the lady on the
> other end started yelling, when she asked if Otis (swear on a Bible, that
> was his name) wanted to change a tire. The next place was willing, so down
> the dirt roads I ran.
> Talk about banjo time.....
> I pull up into the driveway, and a little boy, about 9 or 10 comes out to
> the car, 3 dogs in tow. Little sis arrives while I am trying to unwedge the
> remains of the tire from the boot. I get it out just in time to see an aging
> biker come out. He directs me to his shed, which houses a bike, a trike, and
> a tire changing machine. I was avoiding bumping the fender on the trike the
> entire time I moved around the shop helping him.
> The kids come running up with a 12 pack box, on end, with a turtle shoved in
> it, proudly showing off their new pet.
> What an experience.....
> After about an hour, we were back on the road. Thank goodness we had the
> Sprite as a "spare"....
>
> I also met many fine folks, and hope that we can have another "50th"
> gathering soon..

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 07:26:30 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:26:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Arrived!!!!
In-Reply-To: <4868DB70.3010309@wi.net>
References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu>
	<029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry>
	<8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com>
	<C855BC6E04B7404283FC24ADFDC34ED8@midget>
	<e98d88090806300211w57d44346r5fb8363c13c98bd0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4868DB70.3010309@wi.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806300626g69904885u4955795b33c009ff@mail.gmail.com>

Believe you me, the bar was left in the PF. I would NOT have had room for
that, AND the 15" tire....
Thank you for bringing Terri up for farewell shots on Saturday night.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:11 AM, David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> Sure sounds like Tequila time to me!  Can't wait to hear other homeward
> stories.
> Glad you made it home safely.  Squeal like a pig!
> Dave
> 59 :{)
>
> Brad Fornal wrote:
> > Martha and I took 12 hours for the 550 mile trip. We lost a tire on the
> > borrowed trailer in Caney OK. The thing had been getting squirrelly and
> > would sway side to side when we hit any bumps. We were doing 60 mph on
> the
> > way home, rather than the 70-75 that we did on the way up. It was not a
> huge
> > surprise when the tire went.
> > Unfortunately for us, the guy who loaned us the trailer, didn't know what
> > the bolt pattern of the tire was, so I wasn't able to procure a spare
> prior
> > to leaving. So I was regaled to unloading the Sprite, removing the bar
> from
> > the trunk, and fitting a 15" trailer tire in there, and start searching
> for
> > someone willing to change a tire at around noon on Sunday.
> > There was a truck stop down the road, and the gal behind the counter was
> > kind enough to place a few calls for me. The first place, the lady on the
> > other end started yelling, when she asked if Otis (swear on a Bible, that
> > was his name) wanted to change a tire. The next place was willing, so
> down
> > the dirt roads I ran.
> > Talk about banjo time.....
> > I pull up into the driveway, and a little boy, about 9 or 10 comes out to
> > the car, 3 dogs in tow. Little sis arrives while I am trying to unwedge
> the
> > remains of the tire from the boot. I get it out just in time to see an
> aging
> > biker come out. He directs me to his shed, which houses a bike, a trike,
> and
> > a tire changing machine. I was avoiding bumping the fender on the trike
> the
> > entire time I moved around the shop helping him.
> > The kids come running up with a 12 pack box, on end, with a turtle shoved
> in
> > it, proudly showing off their new pet.
> > What an experience.....
> > After about an hour, we were back on the road. Thank goodness we had the
> > Sprite as a "spare"....
> >
> > I also met many fine folks, and hope that we can have another "50th"
> > gathering soon..
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun 30 07:42:55 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:42:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
References: <12147.44889.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <23C8085264D6410B8D33830635C7F59E@midget>

>> "But the colours were supposed to indicate the nationality of the DRIVER, 
>> not
the car."

Actually, the cars were painted the national color of the team (or in 
Germany's case, were sometimes the silver of the metal as opposed to paint 
because it weighed less). The Drivers' nationality was represented by the 
color of his Helmet. At least that's the way I remember it from the books 
I've read on the subject...

I think you are right, David B. At any rate, it is not the nationality of 
the car (I was half right).
According to the 1977 FIA Yearbook, Appendix I, "The use of distinctive 
colours of nationality is compulsory when the supplementary regulations 
require it. These colours are determined by the nationality of the 
competitor."
Who is the "coompetitor"? Team owner? Driver?
David L 

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 30 08:16:57 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:16:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing?
In-Reply-To: <48683B21.3000408@smarc.net>
References: <48683B21.3000408@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080630091259.03b39f00@nosimport.com>

Before I regale everyone with my successful journey home from LoTO.....

Marc, How about you attach the ground strap from the tranny to the 
chassis. That way you wont be boiling the clutch fluid in the pipe 
and your slave can release, and the smoke and smell will go away.  If 
one is not provided, the engine WILL find a ground. The throttle 
cable route is even more exciting.
         At least that's my take.

Peter C.
recovering Miniholic
=============

At 08:47 PM 6/29/2008, Marc wrote:
>Need some advice -
>
>To make a long story short, I pulled my engine & trans, installed a new
>clutch, pressure plate and carbon release bearing. Installed a new slave
>hose and cylinder (hose was cracked, cylinder was sort of seeping).
>Installed a rebuilt transmission.
>
>After much difficulty bleeding the stinking clutch, I was rewarded with
>a solid clutch pedal, good action.
>
>Only problem, the clutch just would NOT release. Not able to shift into
>gear at all. If starting in gear, a little clutch action was observed,
>but it wouldn't fully release. Visual inspection showed good travel,
>could see the release bearing releasing the plate...
>
>At that point I was fully convinced I had done something stupid,
>backwards clutch disk or something. So, today I pulled the motor & trans
>again. The clutch was properly oriented, and everything looked ok.
>
>The old clutch was actually OK, might have been fairly recent from it's
>looks. I only replaced it because it seemed the sensible thing to do
>while I had everything out and apart. So, at a loss as to what the
>problem was, I reinstalled the original pressure plate and clutch and
>put it all back together. I left the new carbon faced bearing installed
>in the fork. There was a roller type bearing that I had originally
>removed, but it had a plastic body with obvious thermal damage...
>
>Clutch now releases and acts like it should, save for one problem: On
>the initial testing, my son noticed some white smoke - I got out to look
>and there was a fair amount of white smoke coming out of the top
>inspection hole on the transmission. I've smelled roasted clutch before,
>that's NOT what this smelled like. It smelled more like a burning
>electrical component....
>
>Incidentally, while I did not see any smoke with the new pressure plate
>& clutch installed, I did smell the exact same smell, so likely this
>occurred as well, but not to the same extent as I was unable to drive
>the car then.
>
>Now what?? Could there be a problem with the new release bearing? I hate
>to think I have to pull the engine a third time...
>
>
>--
>
>Marc

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Jun 30 08:32:45 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:32:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080630091259.03b39f00@nosimport.com>
References: <48683B21.3000408@smarc.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080630091259.03b39f00@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4868EE8D.9070909@smarc.net>

Guess I shoulda replied to list:

I have a very heavy ground strap from one of the engine/transmission 
bolts to the battery ground point on the chassis. Also, since my midget 
has a flex host to the slave, I doubt that would have happened anyway!

Peter C wrote:
> Before I regale everyone with my successful journey home from LoTO.....
>
> Marc, How about you attach the ground strap from the tranny to the 
> chassis. That way you wont be boiling the clutch fluid in the pipe 
> and your slave can release, and the smoke and smell will go away.  If 
> one is not provided, the engine WILL find a ground. The throttle 
> cable route is even more exciting.
>          At least that's my take.
>
> Peter C.
> recovering Miniholic
> =============
>
> At 08:47 PM 6/29/2008, Marc wrote:
>   
>> Need some advice -
>>
>> To make a long story short, I pulled my engine & trans, installed a new
>> clutch, pressure plate and carbon release bearing. Installed a new slave
>> hose and cylinder (hose was cracked, cylinder was sort of seeping).
>> Installed a rebuilt transmission.
>>
>> After much difficulty bleeding the stinking clutch, I was rewarded with
>> a solid clutch pedal, good action.
>>
>> Only problem, the clutch just would NOT release. Not able to shift into
>> gear at all. If starting in gear, a little clutch action was observed,
>> but it wouldn't fully release. Visual inspection showed good travel,
>> could see the release bearing releasing the plate...
>>
>> At that point I was fully convinced I had done something stupid,
>> backwards clutch disk or something. So, today I pulled the motor & trans
>> again. The clutch was properly oriented, and everything looked ok.
>>
>> The old clutch was actually OK, might have been fairly recent from it's
>> looks. I only replaced it because it seemed the sensible thing to do
>> while I had everything out and apart. So, at a loss as to what the
>> problem was, I reinstalled the original pressure plate and clutch and
>> put it all back together. I left the new carbon faced bearing installed
>> in the fork. There was a roller type bearing that I had originally
>> removed, but it had a plastic body with obvious thermal damage...
>>
>> Clutch now releases and acts like it should, save for one problem: On
>> the initial testing, my son noticed some white smoke - I got out to look
>> and there was a fair amount of white smoke coming out of the top
>> inspection hole on the transmission. I've smelled roasted clutch before,
>> that's NOT what this smelled like. It smelled more like a burning
>> electrical component....
>>
>> Incidentally, while I did not see any smoke with the new pressure plate
>> & clutch installed, I did smell the exact same smell, so likely this
>> occurred as well, but not to the same extent as I was unable to drive
>> the car then.
>>
>> Now what?? Could there be a problem with the new release bearing? I hate
>> to think I have to pull the engine a third time...
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Marc
>>     

-- 

Marc

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 30 09:17:08 2008
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:17:08 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles*
Message-ID: <063020081517.14058.4868F8F40002C260000036EA2215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net>

Hey!  I made that counter top!  8^)

--David C.
WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK?


 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
> The more I read about "youse guys" anniversaries, the older I feel   ;^((
> 
> I went to a wine tasting last night.... the only thing there that was older than 
> me was the granite counter top ..!!!
> 
> On 29 Jun 2008 at 19:02, Craig wrote:
> >> The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was overthrown by
> >> the U.S CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) on Aug 22,
> >> 1953... (the day I was born)
> 
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>     Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 10:06:29 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:06:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint
In-Reply-To: <23C8085264D6410B8D33830635C7F59E@midget>
Message-ID: <E1KDLtf-000074-Vw@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

David Lieb wrote:  "According to the 1977 FIA Yearbook, Appendix I, "The use
of distinctive colours of nationality is compulsory when the supplementary
regulations require it. These colours are determined by the nationality of
the competitor."  Who is the "coompetitor"? Team owner? Driver?"

 

I  believe the FIA relaxed the "national color" rule in when it started
Formula 1 racing in 1969 or 1970, and for everything else shortly
thereafter.   The "competitor" has always been the team owner, for they are
the ones who enter the race, while the driver is simply a hired hand.
(Think of   Fangio, an Argentine, racing a red Alfa and then a silver (or
metal) Mercedes.)  It may not have been FIA sanctioned, but how many times
was the driver of the winning Indy car not the same driver who started the
race?  (No matter if there was a single driver for 499 miles, ONLY the
driver who finished in first place was the "winner"!)   How many here
remember the "back up" drivers ready to step in during the races that went
for many hours.   Then there were the multiple drivers of one car in
endurance races such as the 24 Hours of LeMans.   Curious that I remember
that the winning teams back in the 50's and 60's had two drivers, while in
the last decade or so, to win has required at least three drivers (were
there ever more?)

 

Buster

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 10:12:57 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:12:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
In-Reply-To: <4867BA84.29173.209E1AF@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <E1KD434-0001UU-AY@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<001c01c8da3c$3cf03fd0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca>
	<4867BA84.29173.209E1AF@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806300912k62c65711j2cd0c821d6fc9b7f@mail.gmail.com>

John Sudzman (sp) and his wife Collie, Doug Altman, and his wife Sheryl,
Martha and I went out to taste some wine on Saturday. "I" was the only one
to 4X4 to the top of the mountain this place, Casa Loco, was on. I did have
to remove some ballast to do it though....... <G>
So anyway, they had this CUTE girl pouring for us, so when we finished, I
took her out to the trunk to see the mobile bar. She was suitably impressed,
and sent the owner out. He also was fond of the Tequila Chamucos (The Devils
Tequila) that I poured for him and his friend. Kindness begats kindness, and
before I left, this kind gentleman, brought me out a supplemental bottle of
Tequila Climax to accompany my bottle of "X" Tequila back to Osage Beach.
Ron, I know Billy doesn't drink, but I wonder if he would be offended if I
sent him an empty bottle of this stuff. The bottle is pretty interesting on
it's own. A blue, about 6" high, porcelain X.

Brad

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> The more I read about "youse guys" anniversaries, the older I feel   ;^((
>
> I went to a wine tasting last night.... the only thing there that was older
> than
> me was the granite counter top ..!!!
>
> On 29 Jun 2008 at 19:02, Craig wrote:
> >> The first democratically elected govenment in Iran was overthrown by
> >> the U.S CIA backed group( can you say Shah of Iran?) on Aug 22,
> >> 1953... (the day I was born)
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 10:17:57 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:17:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO
In-Reply-To: <48685108.2050909@wi.net>
Message-ID: <E1KDM4d-0007L3-AX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

David Woerpel wrote:  "To all of you who could not attend, for whatever
reason, we have something special with this list"

 

I was talking with a Navy friend who was with me in the "Golden Age" back in
the early 1960s, and telling him about this group of Sprite and Midget
owners.   Jim, who is active in TR's in the Southwest, had a disbelieving
attitude that such spirit and camaraderie still existed.   "Well, I have
certainly not see it in other car circles."    He came to the BusterCluster,
and as he was leaving, told me, "Buster, you were RIGHT!   These guys are
just like it was in the old days."   

 

I think that those words said so much about this group.

 

Buster

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 10:39:57 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:39:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO
In-Reply-To: <E1KDM4d-0007L3-AX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <48685108.2050909@wi.net>
	<E1KDM4d-0007L3-AX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090806300939pe7caecao8a0e34a86603d15b@mail.gmail.com>

Hell, we had Jim bring his car to LotO, even though it was dead. One donated
used starter, and one new fuel pump later, he was on the road with the rest
of us!!!!
Jim, keep your hands off the car as much as you can, every time you touch
it, it breaks!!

Brad

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:17 AM, B- Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> David Woerpel wrote:  "To all of you who could not attend, for whatever
> reason, we have something special with this list"
>
>
>
> I was talking with a Navy friend who was with me in the "Golden Age" back
> in
> the early 1960s, and telling him about this group of Sprite and Midget
> owners.   Jim, who is active in TR's in the Southwest, had a disbelieving
> attitude that such spirit and camaraderie still existed.   "Well, I have
> certainly not see it in other car circles."    He came to the
> BusterCluster,
> and as he was leaving, told me, "Buster, you were RIGHT!   These guys are
> just like it was in the old days."
>
>
>
> I think that those words said so much about this group.
>
>
>
> Buster
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun 30 10:47:49 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:47:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] national colours
Message-ID: <be6.2c04c23f.359a6835@aol.com>

There's usually a definition of terms somewhere.  The competitor  usually 
means driver rather than entrant.  The team owner is usually the  entrant
 
In a message dated 30/06/2008 14:43:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

These  colours are determined by the nationality of the 
competitor."
Who is  the "coompetitor"? Team owner? Driver?

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Jun 30 10:53:36 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:53:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
Message-ID: <c15.19ed6bb7.359a6990@aol.com>

The hydraulic hose arrived today (including the hose that went for  
shortening and came back the same length) so I hooked it all up to the slave on  the 
nose of the box and bled it.  Really easy to bleed and everything  worked just 
fine with 3/16 rigid pipe rather than a 1/4 rigid pipe.  
 
I've also got the engine back in the car now and will test the clutch again  
before fitting everything and getting it running.
 
Regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 21/06/2008 19:31:44 GMT Daylight Time,  
guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes:

Bill,  when transferring pressure - as is largely the case with the 
braking  system, then I would agree.

But in the case of the clutch you are  moving a quantity of fluid 
through the pipe, and a smaller bore pipe will  take longer and / or 
more pressure, to force the required quantity of  fluid through it.

Guy

>----Original Message----
>From:  pythias at pacifier.com
>Date: 21/06/2008 15:38 
>To:  <Weslake1330 at aol.com>, <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subj: Re:  [Spridgets] Clutch hydraulic line
>
>Hello  guy,
>
>     one would think that the size of the  pipe between is irrelevant
>     other than the amount of  fluid it holds. you move a given amount
>     of fluid  with the stroke of the pedal, and it takes a given
>      amount of fluid to move the slave cylinder. As long as there is
>   enough IN the master sufficient to move the slave the  given
>     amount, the quantity in the pipe between  should mean nothing.
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
>  Bill                     mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> '66 Sprite  HAN8L49403

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun 30 11:09:26 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:09:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090806300939pe7caecao8a0e34a86603d15b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48685108.2050909@wi.net>,
	<E1KDM4d-0007L3-AX@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
	<e98d88090806300939pe7caecao8a0e34a86603d15b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4868B0D6.23109.6C5C7A@dmg.bossig.com>

The "Golden Age" for me was when....
- Drivers sat in the car instead of reclining in the cockpit
- They changed gears by hand, eye and ear, not by pressing a button on the 
wheel when the light flashes
- The tires were skinny just like the ones on the family car
- Watching Fangio in a 250F drifting in a curve with Mike Hawthorn in a 625 just 
behind him
- Drinking wine at dusk at Le Mans in '55 watching the glow of white hot brakes...

Man... you just know why I love my Spridget  ;-))

Sorry folks, I've got to go right now and listen to my "Into the Red" CD....

On 30 Jun 2008 at 11:39, Brad Fornal wrote:
>> the "Golden Age" back in the early 1960s,


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 11:26:20 2008
From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910806291157x158a98ady9842bd9e1e8d46a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <345036.217.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Most of the current plans for Hydrogen powered cars are powered by Hydrogen
Fuel Cells.  The fuel cell produces electricity to charge the batteries.  So
basically you have a battery powered electric car.  There is no combustion of
the H2 it's a chemical reaction. 
 
Interestingly H2 can be produced from Natural Gas at your home (with the
proper equipment) so for short trips at least you could "fill up" at home. 
The same conversion could be done at the gas station which would simplify the
distribution problem.
 
Jim in Homer Alaska

--- On Sun, 6/29/08, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: derf <derf247 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 6:57 PM

If
Gas=$8 a gallon,
and
Hydrogen cost a fraction of that,
then
People won't worry about that old German Airship.

And, I think H2 may need some O2 to burn.  For auto use, surely it
will be a fuel/air mix, no?
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 30 11:33:04 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:33:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
In-Reply-To: <345036.217.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Whatever happened to the fuel cells with proton exchange membranes to
extract hydrogen from regular gasoline? They were supposed to be widely
available by 2008.

From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 11:49:39 2008
From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
In-Reply-To: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <118458.96792.qm@web45706.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Billy,
 
The current H2 fuel cells are technically Proton Enchange Cells.  They just
use pure H2 and O2 with H2O as the waste, to produce electricity, not
gasoline. I would think the additional cost of a onboard unit to produce H2
might not be cost effective.
 
Jim

--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
To: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 5:33 PM

Whatever happened to the fuel cells with proton exchange membranes to
extract hydrogen from regular gasoline? They were supposed to be widely
available by 2008.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 11:51:27 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:51:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <424836.27420.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dave,
 
Well - click it and set it on your lap. Where does it say it has to be secured
to the bottom?
 
I am not sure it would go over well with your County Mountie looking for
Bounty.
But if it looks good - who would know the difference until you did get it
secured.
 
Down here in California they are all are looking for the cell phone users not
using hands free starting tomorrow. The new law goes into effect 7/1/2008. I
kind of like it - i do not like talking on the phone when driving. And most
people i have seen do not drive well when they are on there phones even with
hands free. I do think the first time fine is a little stiff.
 
Vigil
SoCal

--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

From: Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:58 PM

Well.... let me see....
I could drive it to the next town, where one of my boys has a goodly
selection
of power
tools.
Then I could get the broken bits out and put the seat belts in...

Ooops... nearly forgot; WA state has a "click it or ticket" law and
our LEO's are quite
enthusiastic about the 'ticket' part...

So, if I put the seat belts in, I can drive it to my boys' house, where we
can remove the
broken bits, so I can fit the seat belts, so I can drive it to his house....

Hmmm.... I missed something in there, didn't I?? Catch 22? It's worth
$175 to the state  ;^))

Welcome back to the madhouse, folks...

On 29 Jun 2008 at 20:39, B- Evans wrote:

>> David Lieb wrote:  "An Amish Spridgeter? What will happen when
you
>> finally get it running?"
>>
>> Silly!   He will just hitch it up to Old Bessie, hang some red
>> lanterns on the boot, and be off to the nearest gymkhana!

--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 30 12:11:48 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:11:48 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
Message-ID: <7368820.1214849508294.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Ask a bicyclist that has been hit by someone driving while on a cell phone and they will tell you that the fine should be loss of license on the first offense.  I tend to agree with them.  Pull over if it is important enough to talk while driving.  There is no excuse for that.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
>Sent: Jun 30, 2008 1:51 PM
>To: 'Spridgets' <spridgets at autox.team.net>, dmg at bossig.com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
>
>Dave,
> 
>Well - click it and set it on your lap. Where does it say it has to be secured
>to the bottom?
> 
>I am not sure it would go over well with your County Mountie looking for
>Bounty.
>But if it looks good - who would know the difference until you did get it
>secured.
> 
>Down here in California they are all are looking for the cell phone users not
>using hands free starting tomorrow. The new law goes into effect 7/1/2008. I
>kind of like it - i do not like talking on the phone when driving. And most
>people i have seen do not drive well when they are on there phones even with
>hands free. I do think the first time fine is a little stiff.
> 
>Vigil
>SoCal
>
>--- On Sun, 6/29/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>
>From: Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
>To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:58 PM
>
>Well.... let me see....
>I could drive it to the next town, where one of my boys has a goodly
>selection
>of power
>tools.
>Then I could get the broken bits out and put the seat belts in...
>
>Ooops... nearly forgot; WA state has a "click it or ticket" law and
>our LEO's are quite
>enthusiastic about the 'ticket' part...
>
>So, if I put the seat belts in, I can drive it to my boys' house, where we
>can remove the
>broken bits, so I can fit the seat belts, so I can drive it to his house....
>
>Hmmm.... I missed something in there, didn't I?? Catch 22? It's worth
>$175 to the state  ;^))
>
>Welcome back to the madhouse, folks...
>
>On 29 Jun 2008 at 20:39, B- Evans wrote:
>
>>> David Lieb wrote:  "An Amish Spridgeter? What will happen when
>you
>>> finally get it running?"
>>>
>>> Silly!   He will just hitch it up to Old Bessie, hang some red
>>> lanterns on the boot, and be off to the nearest gymkhana!
>
>--
>Dave G.   KK7SS
>'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
>    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'


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From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun 30 13:56:57 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:56:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <424836.27420.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4867F760.14608.2F79E76@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<424836.27420.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4868D819.9315.105B763@dmg.bossig.com>

ROTFLMAO.......
I'm gonna use that one a lot....

On 30 Jun 2008 at 10:51, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>> County Mountie looking for Bounty

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 30 14:46:23 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
In-Reply-To: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <270DDA78-382A-4B84-87D7-36FA65494B35@comcast.net>

.. got one right here..  next to the flying car...

Lester

hell, we were all supposed to be dead or in Utopia by this time.  I'm  
still alive and Utopia is not retuning my calls!!



On Jun 30, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

> Whatever happened to the fuel cells with proton exchange membranes to
> extract hydrogen from regular gasoline? They were supposed to be  
> widely
> available by 2008.
> ___________________

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Jun 30 14:54:32 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:54:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
References: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<270DDA78-382A-4B84-87D7-36FA65494B35@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1A5DF80E15EC4FDEAA9491FE618BAFE6@midget>

> hell, we were all supposed to be dead or in Utopia by this time.  I'm
> still alive and Utopia is not retuning my calls!!

It doesn't look as if there is room for all of us in Utopia and I don't 
think Brad or the other Texans would appreciate it if we tried. OTOH, feel 
free to call Thompson Realty - (830) 966-3434 if you think you would really 
like to live in Utopia. 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 30 15:13:04 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hydrogen powered cars
In-Reply-To: <1A5DF80E15EC4FDEAA9491FE618BAFE6@midget>
References: <C48E66E0.17FDA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<270DDA78-382A-4B84-87D7-36FA65494B35@comcast.net>
	<1A5DF80E15EC4FDEAA9491FE618BAFE6@midget>
Message-ID: <385399FD-EAD9-49BA-8F0D-0AB9D2BE485E@comcast.net>

hmm.. some basic misunderstanding..  I NEVER said live in Utopia I  
said (be) in Utopia ..  and she's older now too..  ;-)

Lester

On Jun 30, 2008, at 3:54 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> hell, we were all supposed to be dead or in Utopia by this time.  I'm
>> still alive and Utopia is not retuning my calls!!
>
> It doesn't look as if there is room for all of us in Utopia and I  
> don't
> think Brad or the other Texans would appreciate it if we tried.  
> OTOH, feel
> free to call Thompson Realty - (830) 966-3434 if you think you  
> would really
> like to live in Utopia.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 15:47:21 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:47:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <424836.27420.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1KDRDP-0001Dj-NW@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Vigil wrote:  "And most people i have seen do not drive well when they are
on there phones even with hands free. I do think the first time fine is a
little stiff."

 

I dunno, the I don't think the $20 first time fine is anywhere *near* enough
for violating the new hands-free cell phone law (Vehicle Code  Sec. 23123 --
http://tinyurl.com/5chxqx ).   Further violations are only $50, IF CAUGHT!
Not really much of a deterrent!  It has to be remembered that there are some
real idiots out there with cell phones.   I have seen them reading the
newspaper on their steering wheel while on the cell phone, checking their
eye shadow while on their cell phone, and trying to turn while on their cell
phone.   The very worse was one of Frank's favorites holding a cell phone to
EACH of her ears while trying to left turn into a Costco parking lot!!!!

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 15:51:40 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:51:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <4868D819.9315.105B763@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <E1KDRHa-0006dD-9S@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote:  ">> County Mountie looking for Bounty:   ROTFLMAO.......I'm
gonna use that one a lot...."

 

Oh, lordy, you must really be a kid.   That is even old to ME!!!  Goes back
to at least the 1970's and the first popularity of CB's among truckers.
Why, there was even a trucker/country song about it back then.

 

Buster

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun 30 15:51:56 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:51:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] A journey of a thousand miles..........
Message-ID: <200806302151.m5ULpuNQ024361@citheronia.ucdavis.edu>

Jeesh!!! A journey of a thousand miles doesn't get you where it used to.

Actually, about 1200 found me here in a Super8 in Salt Lake City at 
1:00pm at 100 deg and roasted from the trip from Cheyenne.  So i'm punked 
out in SLC until the wee hours when it becomes fit for man with beast, to 
twist a phrase.
The engine is still stronger than I am, but Bugsy is loving the attention 
at the rest stops and gas stations.  I must have been approached by a 
dozen people between here and Missouri.   Five hippies in a compact full 
of camping gear were envious of my luxurious accomodations.  We met while 
photographing the same prarie dog at a rest out of Laramie.  But thats 
another story.  So is taking a huge jolt from a blown truck tire.  Big 
black mark on the right side but no damage and the gauges held steady, so 
no big whoop.

Extensive drafting since Cheyenne yieled 44mpg and 46mpg tanks.  Sweet.
onward...!

Glen Byrns

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Jun 30 15:58:49 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:58:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <E1KDRDP-0001Dj-NW@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <424836.27420.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E1KDRDP-0001Dj-NW@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <063020082158.13624.48695719000560050000353822230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:
Pesonally, I like Costco.
  -------------- Original message from "B- Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>: --------------

The very worse was one of Frank's favorites holding a cell phone toeach of her ears while trying to left turn into a Costco parking lot!!!!

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun 30 15:59:59 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:59:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <E1KDRHa-0006dD-9S@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <4868D819.9315.105B763@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<E1KDRHa-0006dD-9S@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Buster...

On 30 Jun 2008 at 14:51, B- Evans wrote:
>> Oh, lordy, you must really be a kid.   That is even old to ME!!!
Nope... born in May 1937 (Hindenburg...remember ??)

>> Why, there was even a trucker/country song about it back then.
The one I remember most often is
"Give me 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around"...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 30 16:09:16 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:09:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A journey of a thousand miles..........
In-Reply-To: <200806302151.m5ULpuNQ024361@citheronia.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200806302151.m5ULpuNQ024361@citheronia.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080630170415.0360ba58@nosimport.com>

I, too, discovered that it invariably takes twice as long to put in 
5.5 gallons in the Mini than it takes a Subdivision owner to put in 45.

Good on ya. Stay cool!   Good to see you again.

Peter C
===
At 04:51 PM 6/30/2008, Glen Byrns wrote:
>Jeesh!!! A journey of a thousand miles doesn't get you where it used to.
>
>Actually, about 1200 found me here in a Super8 in Salt Lake City at
>1:00pm at 100 deg and roasted from the trip from Cheyenne.  So i'm punked
>out in SLC until the wee hours when it becomes fit for man with beast, to
>twist a phrase.
>The engine is still stronger than I am, but Bugsy is loving the attention
>at the rest stops and gas stations.  I must have been approached by a
>dozen people between here and Missouri.   Five hippies in a compact full
>of camping gear were envious of my luxurious accomodations.  We met while
>photographing the same prarie dog at a rest out of Laramie.  But thats
>another story.  So is taking a huge jolt from a blown truck tire.  Big
>black mark on the right side but no damage and the gauges held steady, so
>no big whoop.
>
>Extensive drafting since Cheyenne yieled 44mpg and 46mpg tanks.  Sweet.
>onward...!
>
>Glen Byrns

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Jun 30 17:47:39 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:47:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <E1KDRHa-0006dD-9S@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20080630234723.24364187681@autox.team.net>

8 track if I recall ya'll. 10-4
		Crash

Why, there was even a trucker/country song about it back then.

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 18:43:54 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:43:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] From cut-off bolts to--Over the road
In-Reply-To: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dave G. wrote:  "The one I remember most often is "Give me 40 acres and I'll
turn this rig around"...

 

Hot DAMN!   Someone else remembers The Willis Brothers (or were they still
the Oklahoma Wranglers).   From Okie City, we used to be able to pull in WSM
and the Grand Old Opry where they were still on it.  But that was before
there were any CB's, probably sometime in the 60's.    They heyday of the
trucker/CB songs came in the 1970's with "The White Knight" and C.W.
McCall's "Convoy".   It was Red Sovine who was probably the grand daddy of
songs from the cab of an over-the-road haulers, including the road song that
always gave me goosebumps, "Teddy Bear", the story of a handicapped little
boy who could only talk with the passing truckers.   Those drivers were a
far cry from those today who drive in the comfort of interstates and air
conditioned cabs with a massive condo behind them!   Surprisingly enough, I
always found the best food was wherever you saw a bunch of rigs parked
outside and the drivers inside at the tables that had telephones to hustle
up a load or call home.

 

Sprite drivers, I found, were the truckers' good friend back then.   They
would always give us lee way, and if you had trouble on the side of the
road, they would invariably give a hand (unless on an Tollroad).  Oncoming
trucks would give a hand signal if you would be finding a cop laying in wait
ahead of you.   OK, I am stretching the memory, but maybe Robert Houston
knows, wasn't it two fingers if there was heat ahead, and a twirling
forefinger as a high sign to keep rolling.

 

Buster

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 18:50:43 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:50:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas??
In-Reply-To: <200806301947.1kdt5Y6js3Nl34k0@mx-avoceta.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <E1KDU4r-0006lI-DM@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

David Ramsey wrote:   "8 track if I recall ya'll. 10-4"

 

What's an 8-track.?  By then, we had three babies running around and we were
literally too destitute to afford anything fancy like that.   If it wasn't
on a country station, we never heard it!   (Those were the days Pam said we
simply could not afford insurance and licenses on two cars, and wanted me to
sell the Sprite.   From the look on my face, I think she *knew* which would
I would get rid of first!)

 

Buster

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun 30 19:14:47 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:14:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Over the road
In-Reply-To: <E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48692297.6430.228B539@dmg.bossig.com>

On 30 Jun 2008 at 17:43, B- Evans wrote:
>> Surprisingly enough, I always found the best food was wherever you saw
>> a bunch of rigs parked outside and the drivers inside at the tables
>> that had telephones to hustle up a load or call home.

One that has stayed in my mind (from my shady past)...
"Road America", I80, WY -- Beef Pot Roast,  Smashed Potatoes, Greens and 
Gravy with a bottomless coffee cup !!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 19:41:45 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:41:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stopped on the way home....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0806301841l3f67fc7h24267efeaebc9bb2@mail.gmail.com>

Well, LotO is over and now a warm and pleasant memory.  One which will
undoubtedly will become stretched to mythical proportions as we are able to
develop ever more incredible lies about our exploits  ;-)

Carolyn, the fur kids and I are stopped for the night in Ft. Scott KS and
will head on home in the morning. Just too exhausted and sleepy to continue
tonight. Too dangerous.

Last night we learned that Leo Speichinger (SP?) had an injector pump go
south on his diesel pickup. Since we didn't have any emergency to be home
for we stayed this morning and drove Leo and wife up to Holt's Summit where
a local shop was able to furnish a rebuild exchange for his core by around
3pm CDT. We left Leo back at the hotel with everything he needs to get the
truck running again. Had a great visit through the day.

While waiting for the rebuild we discovered the National Barnstormers group
at Jefferson City airport giving biplane rides!!  An incredible array of
1920s and early 30s biplanes in near concours condition!  $50 for a ride and
being an ancient pilot I couldn't resist!!  Went up over Jefferson City for
15 minutes in a 1929 New Standard D25 with the Wright Whirlwind 440hp
radial!  Great stuff and a real topper for a wonderful "day after the
50th".

Hope everyone had as much fun as we did and effusive thanks to all those who
did the work at the event...   Frank & Diane, Jack & Kay, David & Trish,
Rodger, Jim D., Peter C., Glen B., Gerard, the Millers, the Nases with their
"Corvidget", the Endicotts, Tequila Brad and many many more....  I will wrap
up the event in emails over the next few weeks with a recap of everything
and everyone involved...

Car count was about 75 with about half of that bugeyes!  THere were some
absolutely incredible looking cars there. We had Spridgets in the hotel
lobby throughout the event. I can hardly wait to see the panoramic pics -
especially the one with 36 bugeyes looking straight at the camera!  Dale
Delugosh is starting work on the DVD and many more stills will be posted to
various websites in the weeks to come.  I took over 75 pics myself and I
missed out on a lot of possibilities being too busy to grab the camera....


What a special family of Spridgeteers we all are!!   The future is indeed
bright!

Cheers!!
Jim, Carolyn and the furds

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jun 30 20:20:03 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:20:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] From cut-off bolts to--Over the road
References: <E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003301c8db20$f92420b0$01fea8c0@C600>

Most of our modern drivers are graduates of academies that teach all there
is to know about truck driving in two weeks or less.  Thirty years ago,
car/semi accidents were almost always the fault of the car.  Now it is the
reverse.  Don't even get me started on Abdul and Raji, who were given their
trucks by the Canadian government to keep them off the welfare rolls.

Kate


  Those drivers were a
> far cry from those today who drive in the comfort of interstates and air
> conditioned cabs with a massive condo behind them!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jun 30 20:32:49 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:32:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Over the road
References: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48692297.6430.228B539@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <003f01c8db22$c2155c90$01fea8c0@C600>

If you mean Little America, the only truck stop in the world with it's own
zip code, that same meal would cost you about $30 today, and would all be
from cans.  The souveniers in the gift shops are
all equally hugh priced and made mostly in China.

Kate

> One that has stayed in my mind (from my shady past)...
> "Road America", I80, WY -- Beef Pot Roast,  Smashed Potatoes, Greens and
> Gravy with a bottomless coffee cup !!

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Mon Jun 30 20:43:23 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:43:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Over the road
References: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48692297.6430.228B539@dmg.bossig.com>
	<003f01c8db22$c2155c90$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <F95CD1A4AD054159ADA04F33DA6540EA@DBKF4T81>

That is soooooooooooooo sad.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate" <kgb at frontiernet.net>

> If you mean Little America, the only truck stop in the world with it's own
> zip code, that same meal would cost you about $30 today, and would all be
> from cans.  The souveniers in the gift shops are
> all equally hugh priced and made mostly in China.
>
> Kate

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Jun 30 20:57:20 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:57:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Over the road
In-Reply-To: <F95CD1A4AD054159ADA04F33DA6540EA@DBKF4T81>
References: <4868F4EF.15224.1765E8F@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<F95CD1A4AD054159ADA04F33DA6540EA@DBKF4T81>
Message-ID: <48693AA0.19170.286991D@dmg.bossig.com>

DAMN!!!

First the Tooth Fairy, then Father Christmas and now this... ;^((

Waiter !!!  Quickly, another glass of Port, please.

On 30 Jun 2008 at 19:43, pdxpete wrote:

>> From: "Kate" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>> 
>> > If you mean Little America, the only truck stop in the world with
>> > it's own zip code, that same meal would cost you about $30 today,
>> > and would all be from cans.  The souveniers in the gift shops are
>> > all equally hugh priced and made mostly in China.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
"Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time."
    Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather'

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 21:08:28 2008
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:08:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Over the road
In-Reply-To: <003f01c8db22$c2155c90$01fea8c0@C600>
Message-ID: <E1KDWEA-0001SV-FA@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Kate wrote:  If you mean Little America, the only truck stop in the world
with it's own zip code, that same meal would cost you about $30 today, and
would all be from cans.  The souveniers in the gift shops are all equally
hugh priced and made mostly in China.



Kate, you have just shattered all of my fond memories of a small piece of
America in the middle of Wyoming.   The folks had moved from Iowa to
California, and if they went back in winter, it was on U.S. 66.  In the
summer, though, it was on U.S. 30, long before there was an Interstate 80.
Back then, Little America was just a collection grubby little car park
bungalows, a gas station, and cafi.   Over the years, I saw the slow
evolution into the massive industry it is today.   Well, as it was by about
1976.



And the days drift by..



Buster

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 30 21:24:54 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:24:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] From cut-off bolts to--Over the road
In-Reply-To: <003301c8db20$f92420b0$01fea8c0@C600>
References: <E1KDTyF-00084c-Rk@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<003301c8db20$f92420b0$01fea8c0@C600>
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I'm with ya there Kate..  I was run over by a semi hauling granite.   
My mother was run over and killed by a semi hauling logs..  WAAAAY to  
many of them are kids who weren't brite enough to go to school.  They  
are old enough for a license but have no life experience to tell them  
that what they do is dangerous to others.. or maybe they just don't  
care.

Lester

'73 Mercury Capri run over by a '78 GMC General hauling a Clements  
dump full of granite.


On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Kate wrote:

> Most of our modern drivers are graduates of academies that teach all  
> there
> is to know about truck driving in two weeks or less.  Thirty years  
> ago,
> car/semi accidents were almost always the fault of the car.  Now it  
> is the
> reverse.  Don't even get me started on Abdul and Raji, who were  
> given their
> trucks by the Canadian government to keep them off the welfare rolls.
>
> Kate
>
>
>  Those drivers were a
>> far cry from those today who drive in the comfort of interstates  
>> and air
>> conditioned cabs with a massive condo behind them!
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 30 21:52:19 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:52:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hydrogen filling station in Los Angeles
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--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Tequila back to Osage Beach.
> Ron, I know Billy doesn't drink, but I wonder if he
> would be offended if I
> sent him an empty bottle of this stuff.

Hah! Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Zoom would be offended if the bottle wasn't full.

Ron