From bugi1960 at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 06:35:36 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 08:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield glazing Message-ID: <6BAA4FDC-A644-41D6-89BA-21C883D6C10E@gmail.com> Back from Loto and back to work on the project. I can't find a source for windshield glazing for my Bugeye. Does anyone know of a source? Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ bugi1960 at gmail.com From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jul 1 09:22:32 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:22:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Elizabeth and Fisher Jones Message-ID: Fellow LBCerbs, I received a phone call last night from Elizabeth Jones. Her husband Fisher suffered a heart attack this weekend and is in the hospital in San Antonio. Elizabeth is with him, and he is still in coronary care, but is alert and OK for the time being. A catheterization will be performed as soon as they are sure he is up to it. Since she is at his bedside, Elizabeth has no internet access, and has asked me to inform everyone that she must cancel the sale she had proposed for this weekend. She apologizes to everyone and will reschedule as soon as she can. Many of her friends from the Spridget list were in transit, so she called me as she knew I wasnbt able to attend. I ask that you keep Fisher and Elizabeth in your prayers. Ibm sure she will be sending updates as soon as she is able. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 1 11:06:25 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:06:25 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Removing a cut-off bolt.... Ideas?? Message-ID: So will they cope with a flying car? In a message dated 30/06/2008 22:47:47 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: Vigil wrote: "And most people i have seen do not drive well when they are on there phones even with hands free. I do think the first time fine is a little stiff." From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jul 1 11:18:06 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:18:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home from LotO References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu><029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry><8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com> <4868DB70.3010309@wi.net> Message-ID: <2DEB58928AF8461295F729D2A0DF058A@Dell9200> Thanks to Jim and the LotO crew we had a great time and arrived home safely. Our Bugeye is tucked away in the garage and the trailer is back between the trees in the back forty. Putting faces together with email addresses was quite the challenge. It's funny how my mind has put imaginary faces to signatures over the last ten years or so. What a sight to see 30+ Bugeyes and at least that many square bodies all in one place. We are looking forward to seeing the group photo, especially with all of the hoods up, what a hoot! Thanks again to Jim for putting together such a special gathering. Mark and Ginger Nashville From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 11:23:46 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:23:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home from LotO In-Reply-To: <2DEB58928AF8461295F729D2A0DF058A@Dell9200> References: <200806251657.m5PGvEcN015018@tremex.ucdavis.edu> <029d01c8d6e6$83695680$6401a8c0@Larry> <8c1781040806291843m3f0386c8xeebd11556079ee82@mail.gmail.com> <4868DB70.3010309@wi.net> <2DEB58928AF8461295F729D2A0DF058A@Dell9200> Message-ID: DEFINITE Thanks to all involved. Martha is sitting across from me now, telling me that she has NEVER seen a bunch of people that were so kind to (pretty much) total strangers. These cars bring the best of people together. As much as I HATE driving, I, as well as Martha, would be there in an instant again. She came along, because it is technically her car, and she wanted to spend some time with me. She now wants to know if it is going to happen again, just to be with many of you fine folks. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Mark wrote: > Thanks to Jim and the LotO crew we had a great time and arrived home > safely. > Our Bugeye is tucked away in the garage and the trailer is back between the > trees in the back forty. Putting faces together with email addresses was > quite the challenge. It's funny how my mind has put imaginary faces to > signatures over the last ten years or so. What a sight to see 30+ Bugeyes > and at least that many square bodies all in one place. We are looking > forward to seeing the group photo, especially with all of the hoods up, > what > a hoot! Thanks again to Jim for putting together such a special gathering. > > Mark and Ginger > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 12:00:22 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:00:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net> <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> Dean, I'm confused first what does HVLP stand for and are you saying you sprayed Rustoleum Antique White on your Bugeye? Lin On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > I don't think I would roll it. Spraying it is the way to go. > You can see what HVLP sprayed Rustoleum "Antique White" looks like on a > Bugeye right here.... > > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1109-01.jpg > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1115-01.jpg > > So tell me, does it look like Old English White or not? > > I'll see if I can post more pictures after I do the second coat. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kent McLean" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > > > > "Dean Hedin" wrote: > >> Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine > >> modern substitute paint you can find right at your local hardware store > >> that should give you that original look and feel. > >> > >> Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin. > >> > >> Better known today as Rustoleum... > >> Hah! > > > > Which brings us full circle back to "paint your car for $50". :) > > > > One such link: > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 12:06:01 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:06:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bumper repair Message-ID: <205cef430807011106nb9ce9e2w1c0cd5b12573bb08@mail.gmail.com> List, Does anyone know of a shop that repairs bumpers? Local to the east but I will send out if I have to. I have a few 2 on my Sprite 1 spare with small pulls on them (probably from a tow chain) that I would like repaired probably with a wheel prior to having them re chromed and figured it would be better to repair the factory bumpers than replace them. Thanks Linda From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 12:26:34 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:26:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video In-Reply-To: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430807011126pe4c0f0we29c04346beefc62@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for this link wow it was awesome. I'll pass it along to others I know. Thanks a ton, nice to know how to check your tires. Lin On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:13 PM, wrote: > Yo Ed, > > Thanks for all the information on your site. > This is for those non believers about tire dates. > > AGED TIRES: A DRIVING HAZARD? > > http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897 > > I used this link to prove a point - > > I just had a set of tires put on my truck and had to fight with > > the tire dealer to take them back off. The date code said they > > were 5 years old. They looked like any other new tire. > > Vigil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Tue Jul 1 13:01:18 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 14:01:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Our LOTO Saga Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EFB6D9@glitas07.garverinc.local> This is our hard luck odyssey to LOTO in short phrases. Left Little Rock Wednesday a.m. Weather was beautiful and our orange Mk2 Sprite, the Mammoth Orange - I'll call her the MO from now, was doing well. Getting into steep Ozarks highways just north of Conway AR. Drove on about 70 miles to Clinton AR. Stopped for gas. MO was reluctant to restart. Wife squirmed in her seat. Soon restarted but wife remained nervous about any little noise and remarked about all the times the MO had stranded us over the last 30 years. All was still OK until Marshall AR where we held up by a flagger for a one-lane pavement project. Sun was hot, MO was hot, wife was hotter. MO began to sputter. Wife went pale and began to hyperventilate. Drove on after 15 minutes with MO sputtering more and wife in apoplexy muttering about being stranded in the boonies where cell phones don't work. Drove on about another 30 minutes mostly sounding like one cylinder was about it. Pulled off at a road side hash house, found a shade tree, stopped. Wife's body temp was about 104. Put on spare fuel pump. MO restarted and we drove on with no problems except wife's vitriolic grumbling about Never Getting In That Car again. Heavy traffic in Harrison AR (about 150 miles short of LOTO). MO sputters again. Wife needs Med-Evac, can barely breathe. Hard right into a local Auto Zone. MO lets out a loud POP and expires. Further popping noise comes from veins in wife's forehead, eyes rolled back, jerking spasms. Work in hot sun about 90 minutes but can't repair. Wife has turned odd color and is spouting fury. Turns out to be a combo of fuel delivery and distributor drive problem. Wife is beyond listening to explanations, begins to weep. Here's where things changed by a couple of strokes of good luck Through the kindness and connections of the Auto Zone lady, rented an old Dodge from a local Harley dealer who graciously towed the MO to secure storage. Drove on toward LOTO in Dodge. Car had AC which helped wife a little. Wife's body temp now about 103 but atmosphere feels seriously chilly where I'm sitting. Teeth still grinding. Repeating herself. Arrived Inn at Grand Glaize about 4 hours later than we had hoped. Quick shower, food, and nice folks improved wife's troubles. Outlet malls the next day helped even more. It was a bummer to have to leave the 50th early but we had the MO to get back to LR. Drove about 650 miles on Friday from LOTO to LR back to Harrison then home to Little Rock with the MO in tow. Wife and I are again on fragile speaking terms. Here's the Good Part: It was a short but wonderful time at the 50th all because of the hard work of the meet organizers and the great companionship of a fantastic group of Spridgeteers. Can't wait to do it again!! Aren't our little cars Awesome?? Cheers, Jack Brashear From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 13:22:10 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:22:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Home from LotO Message-ID: <070120081922.3842.486A83E20001D17900000F022212020784C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Wife Paula noted the same attitude after our trips up to PA to Kevin's PA Rally--how everyone was so kind and considerate of one another, and that there was no pretense, as is sometimes noted among other car groups. --David C. WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Brad Fornal" > DEFINITE Thanks to all involved. Martha is sitting across from me now, > telling me that she has NEVER seen a bunch of people that were so kind to > (pretty much) total strangers. > These cars bring the best of people together. As much as I HATE driving, I, > as well as Martha, would be there in an instant again. > She came along, because it is technically her car, and she wanted to spend > some time with me. She now wants to know if it is going to happen again, > just to be with many of you fine folks. > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Mark wrote: > > > Thanks to Jim and the LotO crew we had a great time and arrived home > > safely. > > Our Bugeye is tucked away in the garage and the trailer is back between the > > trees in the back forty. Putting faces together with email addresses was > > quite the challenge. It's funny how my mind has put imaginary faces to > > signatures over the last ten years or so. What a sight to see 30+ Bugeyes > > and at least that many square bodies all in one place. We are looking > > forward to seeing the group photo, especially with all of the hoods up, > > what > > a hoot! Thanks again to Jim for putting together such a special gathering. > > > > Mark and Ginger > > Nashville > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 14:24:07 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:24:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net> <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: High Volume Low Pressure Puts more paint on the car and less in the air.. ..and yes, I think he did use Rustoleum.. Lester On Jul 1, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Dean, > I'm confused first what does HVLP stand for and are you saying you > sprayed > Rustoleum Antique White on your Bugeye? > Lin > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Dean Hedin > wrote: > >> I don't think I would roll it. Spraying it is the way to go. >> You can see what HVLP sprayed Rustoleum "Antique White" looks like >> on a >> Bugeye right here.... >> >> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/ >> IMGP1104-01.jpg >> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/ >> IMGP1109-01.jpg >> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/ >> IMGP1115-01.jpg >> >> So tell me, does it look like Old English White or not? >> >> I'll see if I can post more pictures after I do the second coat. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kent McLean" >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint >> >> >>> "Dean Hedin" wrote: >>>> Everyone should be happy to know there is a fine >>>> modern substitute paint you can find right at your local >>>> hardware store >>>> that should give you that original look and feel. >>>> >>>> Stove Enamel = Oil Alkyd Resin. >>>> >>>> Better known today as Rustoleum... >>>> Hah! >>> >>> Which brings us full circle back to "paint your car for $50". :) >>> >>> One such link: >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 1 14:43:36 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 13:43:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] home from LotO Message-ID: <200807012043.m61KhaFT015142@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> I'm back. Dodging the heat, I left Salt Lake City at 10PM last night after an early dinner and a few hours sleep. A few hours out of Salt Lake, a thunderhead laid a massive burst across 80 and stopped all traffic. (All four or five of us) I didn't have the side curtains up and took the horozontal blast in the side of the face. It knocked off my hat andglasses, pushed the car half off the road and blasted the car and I with sand, brush and rain. After a minute it was gone, but half of Utah was in my left eye. I had about one and a half eyes for the rest of the drive. My first stop when I got home a few hours ago was the eye doctor. Much better now with modern pharmacology. An hour later, a stab at the dimmer killed the fuse while I was doing about 70. Pucker time. I found the flashlight by touch, dead. I found the transmitter for the toy helicopter, stole batteries and fixed the flashlight by the soft glow of the GPS screen. No spare fuse of course, but the bit from a multi-driver made a perfect snap-in fit for a 2000W replacement. After a sniff for melted wiring, I was off again. Daybreak in the Nevada desert near Winnemucca was beautiful even to one eye. Three days, 13 gas stops, 1956 miles with a net average of 37mpg Its good to be home. I'll have more time to reflet on the incredible experience of LotO after a LOT of sleep. Glen Byrns From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jul 1 15:09:39 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:09:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video In-Reply-To: <205cef430807011126pe4c0f0we29c04346beefc62@mail.gmail.com> References: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430807011126pe4c0f0we29c04346beefc62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6876910ECF5B424EA2AF5FB62A5AA1BB@Home> > Thanks a ton, nice to know how to check your tires. I checked the date on a tire that would not hold air and found it to be four years old (3804). It was cracked straight across from sitting on the ground with no air in it for some unknown length of time. Clearly, age is not all that matters. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 1 15:15:35 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:15:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Our LOTO Saga In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EFB6D9@glitas07.garverinc.local> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EFB6D9@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <486A9E77.2040303@verizon.net> Jack, Do you think the 'Missus' might benefit from a new, OEM, rotor? Just asking! CB From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 15:56:37 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 17:56:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PPG paint Message-ID: <205cef430807011456xb6ca1d5v210d908bcf696bdc@mail.gmail.com> List, Has anyone used this site for Spridget paint http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm I just emailed them (too late to call) if they would give me the PPG color code for my 62 Sprite deep pink, because my local Norwoods Auto Parts and Paint store mixes PPG paint. If they don't I am almost positive I contacted them when I bought the car in 2006 and they can send me the paint. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 16:38:22 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:38:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Are your tires safe - Video In-Reply-To: <6876910ECF5B424EA2AF5FB62A5AA1BB@Home> References: <641565.64197.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430807011126pe4c0f0we29c04346beefc62@mail.gmail.com> <6876910ECF5B424EA2AF5FB62A5AA1BB@Home> Message-ID: <205cef430807011538y70763478s4e64c3b0d44332e9@mail.gmail.com> Michael, Wow scarey. Hey neighbor your local I'm in Brooklyn on weekends : ) Jersey Shore weekdays : ) Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > Thanks a ton, nice to know how to check your tires. > > I checked the date on a tire that would not hold air and found it to be > four > years old (3804). It was cracked straight across from sitting on the > ground > with no air in it for some unknown length of time. Clearly, age is not all > that matters. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 17:47:10 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:47:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FWI Paul A Fund Message-ID: <43840a7e0807011647h79c6359p126bdc5e14b8d368@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Have been home for a couple of hours and started pouring over the books.... Just thought I'd let you all know that thanks to everyone's generousity - and especially to Jerry Mock who won the 50/50 drawing and donated his share to the cause - I am putting a check of $620 into an envelope to send to the Paul A Fund.... You people are TOPS!! Cheers!! Jim From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Jul 1 18:22:00 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:22:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... FWI Paul A Fund References: <43840a7e0807011647h79c6359p126bdc5e14b8d368@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43887367D29D4500A15A195BF021E534@DBKF4T81> And thanks to you for getting this off the ground. Everyone's generosity is much appreciated. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Spridgets List ; Yahoo Spridget list ; bugeye Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Bugeye Group..... FWI Paul A Fund Spridgeteers, Have been home for a couple of hours and started pouring over the books.... Just thought I'd let you all know that thanks to everyone's generousity - and especially to Jerry Mock who won the 50/50 drawing and donated his share to the cause - I am putting a check of $620 into an envelope to send to the Paul A Fund.... You people are TOPS!! Cheers!! Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you want to unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. MARKETPLACE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Attention, Yahoo! Groups users! 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Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. . __,_._,___ From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 19:17:36 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:17:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon Message-ID: <205cef430807011817r7a626ecel81a54553b5ca7193@mail.gmail.com> List, I heard a small bit on the radio about gas price predictions but I missed the report so I searched and found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9z5TJeU9w&feature=related could it be true that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will be our daily driver? Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 19:19:20 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:19:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon Message-ID: <205cef430807011819l6924007bla70fa93a454d7288@mail.gmail.com> List, I heard a small bit on the radio about gas price predictions but I missed the report so I searched and found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9z5TJeU9w&feature=related could it be true that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will be our daily driver? Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 1 19:30:01 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 18:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon References: <205cef430807011817r7a626ecel81a54553b5ca7193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003501c8dbe3$26826cc0$01fea8c0@C600> I don't know about you, but at $15 per gallon, my daily driver will be a Mark I Appaloosa. Also, if the railroad wants me to keep working, they will give me my Subdivision to drive back & forth. Otherwise, I will go back to enjoying my hard earned retirement. Kate could it be true > that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will > be our daily driver? > Lin From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 1 19:31:37 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:31:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FWI Paul A Fund References: <43840a7e0807011647h79c6359p126bdc5e14b8d368@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010301c8dbe3$5f5b3090$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets List" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" ; "bugeye" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] FWI Paul A Fund Spridgeteers, Have been home for a couple of hours and started pouring over the books.... Just thought I'd let you all know that thanks to everyone's generousity - and especially to Jerry Mock who won the 50/50 drawing and donated his share to the cause - I am putting a check of $620 into an envelope to send to the Paul A Fund.... You people are TOPS!! Cheers!! Jim _______________________________________________ Glad to hear nobody had to bite the bullet on the event AND glad to hear that the Paul A Fund was the eventual recipient of the excess... couldn't go to a better cause. LAD P.S. Kudos to Jim J. and all others who made it happen. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 19:44:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:44:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! Message-ID: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> We are home safe and sun burned. This was the BEST Spridget meet there ever was, if you missed it, you better go kick yourself in the butt because there was plenty of advanced notice. 3 Sprites, and the only problem I had was that somebody (me) left the gas cap at the McExit somewhere in McTown while he (myself) was filling the tank. But, guess who brought a spare gas cap? I sure did!!! along with just about every other part I could think of. My cruise was a god send, the footwell got so hot I just set the cruise and pulled my legs out of the foot well so the sun could bake them. And I got 40-41 MPG which is about 3 miles per gallon more than without the cruise. Diane and I spent most of our time in the 59 driving to and fro Missouri. We are sun dried, half baked, and deep fried. Sun burned on top of sun burn. The Sprite never missed a beat either way, the other 2 Sprites were on the trailer. Even the kids had a great time. My Sprite was used by the kids and myself for the autocross, that car took a few awards in the event and my own son beat me with MY car in the autocross! I guess I am now a has been :( My future son in law has already found a Sprite forsale on line, he's sold on a Sprite and has to have one of his own. My daughter wants her own Bugeye too, she wants it painted like a lady bug. My thanks to Jim Johnson for being the head honcho for this event. Without him it never would have happened. I had a helluva time, no time to eat because of all the events, but one heck of a great time. We did have a few minor glitches that we learned from, nothing too bad just some things we can do or should have done differently. So the next time we will know. Plans for the Midget 50th in 2011 are already in the making. If you missed this event, you have 3 years to prepare for the next mega Spridgetfest. Man it's good to be home after 2 days on the road in a Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 1 20:49:15 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:49:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon References: <205cef430807011817r7a626ecel81a54553b5ca7193@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013301c8dbee$378fced0$6501a8c0@shop> Without even looking Lin, it's on Utube and not a major network?? Did you check snoops?? Just thoughts. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 1 20:53:56 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:53:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PPG paint References: <205cef430807011456xb6ca1d5v210d908bcf696bdc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013901c8dbee$df67a470$6501a8c0@shop> <> Lin, Don's book is OVER 5 years old and had he HAD a code I think he would have published. My autographed copy has same info as the site. You need a GREAT autobody shop or their paint supplier that is willing to do some serious work!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 1 19:55:57 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:55:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon References: <205cef430807011817r7a626ecel81a54553b5ca7193@mail.gmail.com> <003501c8dbe3$26826cc0$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: <012501c8dbe6$c5785da0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate" To: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon I don't know about you, but at $15 per gallon, my daily driver will be a Mark I Appaloosa. Also, if the railroad wants me to keep working, they will give me my Subdivision to drive back & forth. Otherwise, I will go back to enjoying my hard earned retirement. Kate could it be true > that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will > be our daily driver? > Lin _______________________________________________ I've already been riding my bike to the office when I know I don't have to leave to see any clients. But it's more of a case of trying to get my legs (etc.) back in shape after my Achilles injury than for saving gas. Although, the saving gas is nice, too. I could use the savings to take Carrie out for ice cream, but I've been blowing it on beer with my buddies, instead. Hey, ya gotta have priorities. LAD From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jul 1 20:06:55 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:06:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <541BD132-7B6B-40F8-98D4-730024781ED6@phillymgclub.com> COUNT ME IN, I am not doing another MG national event. 350+ cars (17 Midgets, 1 Bugeye with a Mazda rotary) and nearly 600 people. I learned some things so I can help more in the Midget 50th planing. Larry On Jul 1, 2008, at 9:44 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Plans for the Midget 50th in 2011 are already in the making. If you > missed this event, you have 3 years to prepare for the next mega > Spridgetfest. -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 1 20:12:23 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:12:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> Frank, I, for one, would be interested in your "Lessons learned"... And don't say 4 buckets of sunscreen SPF100!! On 1 Jul 2008 at 21:44, Frank Clarici wrote: >> We did have a few minor glitches that we learned from, nothing too bad >> just some things we can do or should have done differently. So the >> next time we will know. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 20:23:08 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:23:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net> <003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c8dbea$9112ae90$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Linda, I sprayed it with "Oil Alkyd Enamel". The same kind of paint that BMC originally used in 1959 at Longbridge. Today, we call that kind of paint Rustoleum. It is my opinion that Rustoleum "Antique White" is an extremely close color match for Old English White. Others may disagree. I did not do this on a whim. I have a small patch of original Old English White paint on my car to compare it with. I think it is very close. I am about to spray the third and final coat. I used a high volume, low pressure, paint sprayer. You can get this type of spray gun from various tools stores. It is the type of spray gun used by most body shops these days. I have been color wet sanding with 600grit between coats. After the third coat, I will let it harden for about a week. I will then wet sand with 1200 grit and then I will buff it out with compound. On the 4th I will have three LBC owners over to visit. Two of them will not know that the paint is Rustoleum (unless unbeknownst to me they read this list!) They will all get to look at the orignal little patch and decide for themselves. As you can imagine, I can't wait for the results of this little color perception experiment. ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner Dean, I'm confused first what does HVLP stand for and are you saying you sprayed Rustoleum Antique White on your Bugeye? Lin http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1104-01.jpg http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1109-01.jpg http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1115-01.jpg From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 20:36:11 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:36:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head conversion to UNLEADED In-Reply-To: <23959737.1214423529504.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <23959737.1214423529504.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <486AE99B.4090602@comcast.net> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Why not simply run the head for as long as it will on unleaded. I have for years and have not seen any ill effects. No use throwing money away until you need to. > > > Same here. You could just paste a few hundred dollar bills on the valve cover and get the same results. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 20:36:09 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 22:36:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bumper repair References: <205cef430807011106nb9ce9e2w1c0cd5b12573bb08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003601c8dbec$62b987b0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Most good chroming outfits will be able to repair the item as part of the rechroming proccess. I am presently getting my bumperettes and front grill plated and they are going to pound out a few dents. The outfit is located in Philadelphia. Email me off list if you are interested in the particulars. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" Subject: [Spridgets] bumper repair > List, > Does anyone know of a shop that repairs bumpers? Local to the east but I > will send out if I have to. I have a few 2 on my Sprite 1 spare with small > pulls on them (probably from a tow chain) that I would like repaired > probably with a wheel prior to having them re chromed and figured it would > be better to repair the factory bumpers than replace them. > Thanks Linda From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 21:03:31 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rant-heater blower motor housing In-Reply-To: <20080630002122.NJMZ22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20080630002122.NJMZ22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <486AF003.8050005@comcast.net> Chris Manuel wrote: > To be blunt, how the heck can I separate this %(^*&$ thing safely? Do I > drill all those small bolts off? There is no way I can get a wrench in that > thing unless I use my 6 year old's hands. > > Chris The bolts on the blower motor are captive to some degree. They are held inside the plastic in a hex socket molded into the housing. Just unscrew the outside nuts. BUT be very careful you do not snap off the plastic molded bolt keepers. Soak em good if they seem tight, do not force them. They come apart I have done it many times. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 21:06:14 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 23:06:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Our LOTO Saga References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE603EFB6D9@glitas07.garverinc.local> <486A9E77.2040303@verizon.net> Message-ID: <004701c8dbf0$96d71090$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Sounds like she's beyond that, might require the "new F-150 + MO on trailer in tow" solution... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charley Braum" > Jack, > > Do you think the 'Missus' might benefit from a new, OEM, rotor? From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 21:34:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:34:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > Frank, > > I, for one, would be interested in your "Lessons learned"... > > And don't say 4 buckets of sunscreen SPF100!! > > I hate sunscreen, too greasy. Lessons learned were about some minor changes we can make for the better on the next meet. Like teach most Spridget owners that there is a difference between a MKI Sprite and a 1500 Midget. I mean we just assumed spridget owners knew the difference between MKI, MKII, MKIII, etc. So PICTURES on the ballots should work next time.Or signs in front of the MKs. so people know what they are looking at. Lady's class trophys would have been nice. Oh yeah, I also learned that tequila can be good. Brad knows his stuff and has the good stuff. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 1 22:43:38 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008f01c8dbfe$3c92aa00$01fea8c0@C600> I will be at this one if I have to stuff the Midget in the trunk of the Chrysler. How can I get in on the planning? I can get us a hotel with unbelievably low rates, a courtyard pool for the kids, GOOD food for any banquets, and Spridget roads that will have you drooling on your steering wheels. Kate > Plans for the Midget 50th in 2011 are already in the making. If you > missed this event, you have 3 years to prepare for the next mega > Spridgetfest. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 1 22:48:12 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 00:48:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> "In the sun" photos, These were taken about 4:30 in the afternoon http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1119-01.jpg http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1120-01.jpg http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1123-01.jpg From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 1 22:55:51 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:55:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank Clarici wrote: "We are sun dried, half baked, and deep fried. Sun burned on top of sun burn." OK, but other than that, did you enjoy the parade through Downtown Dallas Mrs. Kennedy? (Mrs. Lincoln got tired of me asking her about the play.) And as Carl Perkins put it, you bin "Dixie Fried"! Buster From tinydog at snet.net Wed Jul 2 05:29:56 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:29:56 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <070220081129.6055.486B66B400038C96000017A722230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Without a doubt, your photos definitely prove one thing. Your car is white. -------------- Original message from "Dean Hedin" : -------------- > "In the sun" photos, These were taken about 4:30 in the afternoon > > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1119-01.jpg > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1120-01.jpg > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1123-01.jpg tinydog sez: From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 2 06:26:14 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon Message-ID: <16908138.1215001574489.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I wonder how crime would increase once the minimum wage folks pay more to get to work than they receive in pay. I think that is almost the case now at $4.10 a gallon. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Linda Grunthaner >Sent: Jul 1, 2008 9:19 PM >To: spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon > >List, >I heard a small bit on the radio about gas price predictions but I missed >the report so I searched and found this >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF9z5TJeU9w&feature=related could it be true >that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will >be our daily driver? >Lin > >62 California Sprite "Pinky" >www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 2 06:30:11 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:30:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net><486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> > Lessons learned were about some minor changes we can make for the better > on the next meet. > Like teach most Spridget owners that there is a difference between a MKI > Sprite and a 1500 Midget. > I mean we just assumed spridget owners knew the difference between MKI, > MKII, MKIII, etc. > So PICTURES on the ballots should work next time.Or signs in front of > the MKs. so people know what they are looking at. > Lady's class trophys would have been nice. > Oh yeah, I also learned that tequila can be good. Brad knows his stuff > and has the good stuff. Yeah, most of us know far too much about our particular favorite mark and consider everything else a donor ;-) I think I can pick out the different cars, but it would take too much effort to do that for each car that I approached at a show just so I could vote. Therefore I threw my ballot away and enjoyed looking at the cars. I liked the fact that they were NOT arranged by MK, but that did not help the balloting. Perhaps we should move away from rigid MK divisions in the classes? MKII and III Sprites could be lumped together with MKI and II Midgets. SWA 1275 Spridgets could be a class. Bugeyes need to be on their own, of course, likewise RWA Midgets. a 1500 class to round things off and you have 5 classes instead of the eight we used. Limit votes to first and second, assign point values to a first-place vote and a second-place vote, add the scores up and it will still be a mess that doesn't make anyone happy. Isn't that what car shows are for? I did like the "Best Modified Sprite" and "Best Modified Midget" classes. Perhaps a vote for best blue car, best red car, etc? For that matter, there was an autocross class for cars under 1200cc. Guess how many 948 and 1098 cars showed up? Mine. Trish had a very respectable score with our 1098 Bugeye, but it loses something when it is the only car in the class. Hindsight is always 20/20. David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 06:57:27 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:57:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <486B7B37.4080902@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > "In the sun" photos, These were taken about 4:30 in the afternoon > > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1119-01.jpg > > My buddy painted his MKIII with Rustoleum several years ago. It still looks great as does Dean's. I like it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 2 07:10:41 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:10:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon Message-ID: <200807021310.m62DAfYf027941@syrphus.ucdavis.edu> Could become our daily drivers? What? They're not already? Glen true > that gas could reach $15.00 a gallon? Does this mean our Spridgets will > be our daily driver? From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 07:16:23 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:16:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon In-Reply-To: <200807021310.m62DAfYf027941@syrphus.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807021310.m62DAfYf027941@syrphus.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <486B7FA7.60409@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > Could become our daily drivers? > > What? They're not already? > > > I don't know about you but after a 2000 + mile drive in a Sprite, I'm parking it for the rest of the week. I am looking forward to getting in the pick up truck ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From yoonit at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 07:23:53 2008 From: yoonit at yahoo.com (M F) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] paint codes Message-ID: <973899.80657.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here are some paint code links I found recently: http://www.mgcars.org.uk/midgetspriteclub/MascNew/CarData/ExamplePaintCodes.h tml http://austin-healeys.com/67dupontpaintcode.jpg Sorry, no PPG code for the pink...(?) -michael From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 07:53:31 2008 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 06:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] $12 to $15. a gallon Message-ID: <949043.581.qm@web56011.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cant wait to get my Midget back on the road. I'm spending $30 a day in gas commuting, the Midget would be a welcomed relief. Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 08:25:57 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:25:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] home from LotO In-Reply-To: <200807012043.m61KhaFT015142@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807012043.m61KhaFT015142@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <114901036.20080702072557@pacifier.com> Hello Glen, Last one home ....... ....... is a rotten egg! That of course would be ME! .. try as we might to beat ya home, experience and treachery beats youth and enthusiasm..... we saw Bill M. pull off at Issaquah Washington on his way to Renton at Midnight and drove on to Kelso arriving at about 3:40 am. I am claiming the 21st Century RECORD of SINGLE DAY MILES in a SPRIDGET, of 1165 miles from Gilette Wyoming to Kelso Washington via Bellevue, Washington... .. arriving at about 12:30 in Bellevue, we found the ramp and road Southbound I-405 CLOSED and had to detour! Hell of thing to find after as many hours on the road as we ALREADY had..... Mileage report later.. car runs better and gets better mileage on GASOLINE!... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 I think I will plan being spontaneous tomorrow From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 09:04:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:04:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net><486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> Message-ID: <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> Hello David, I agree with your classification system, (if i read it correctly of) Bugeye MK I MK II Sprite, MK I Midget MK III Sprite, MK II Midget MK IV Sprite, MK III Midget Rubber Bumper/1500 Midget.. whatever the hell those things are really called... (I don't know the later ones well enough to know, .. are ALL rubber bumper Midgets, 1500's? NO INSULTS INTENDED! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Two can live as cheaply as one, for half as long. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 09:10:25 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:10:25 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] '74 Midgit overhaul questions Message-ID: <070220081510.1903.486B9A60000E1DA70000076F2215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> This past friday at the MG2008 John Twist of MG mechanic fame ripped my car to shreds. The only thing that wasn't commented on was my tires. It was so bad that people came up to me the nest day and said things like " wow john really ripped you a new one, how are you feeling?". so combining that with a radiator that I am now convinced needs to be recored I am taking it off the road for a variety of repairs and modifications starting tomorrow. this brings a littany of questions: 1. anything I should know about removing the radiator, little tricks etc.? Any recomended places to send it? to stay away from? 2. while I am removing the radiator should I replace the water pump? 3. I am also removing the oil seal on the rear diff. any tips anything else i should replace while I have it apart ie. front bearings etc.? what torque setting when putting it back together? 4. I removed the air manifold and the vacuum connector on the intake manifold and replaced them with zinc bolts from home depot. John said I have an air leak and I am guessing its coming from here. I probably should have used something different to plug the holes. What did you use /what should I use or add to seal the air leaks? 5. My front bumper mounts are bent from PO can I try and bend them back or find new ones? recomendations as to where sisnce moss, BRG, and VB don't carry them? thanks ryan From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 09:21:33 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> I think there should also be awards for items that go across models: Best interior, Most bling under hood, best auxiliary lighting, best paint, most bugs on the windscreen, etc. However, I am only suggesting these to make the show voting more fun (I'm not trying to make things "fair"). However, the static car show is not what made this event great. It was the people and the bond they shared that is created by these little cars. Trevor Jessie On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello David, > > I agree with your classification system, (if i read it correctly > of) > > Bugeye MK I > MK II Sprite, MK I Midget > MK III Sprite, MK II Midget > MK IV Sprite, MK III Midget > Rubber Bumper/1500 Midget.. whatever the hell those things are > really called... (I don't know the later ones well enough to > know, .. are ALL rubber bumper Midgets, 1500's? NO INSULTS > INTENDED! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 09:26:55 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:26:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> Hello Trevor, couldn't agree more about the people thing... for me it was more like one of my FAMILY RE-UNIONS than anything else... everyone not only got along with everyone else, we all genuinelly LIKED everyone we met. and there was that bond of complete trust. .. Kinda renews ones faith in human nature... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "Wow!" barked Tom, with a bow. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 09:40:57 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 10:40:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Everyone getting along, actually made it BETTER than any of MY family reunions. I was just happy to get to crawl under a car, less than 2 hours after arriving, and get to help out. I got to play nurse to Dr. Clarici... Dr. Clarici "9/16 wrench" Nurse Tequila "9/16 wrench" Dr. Clarici "ratchet and socket to match" Nurse Tequila "ratchet and socket" It was a pleasure to be able to assist such greatness. My life list of Spridget accomplishments has had the top three items checked off now.... On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Trevor, > > couldn't agree more about the people thing... > > for me it was more like one of my FAMILY RE-UNIONS than anything > else... everyone not only got along with everyone else, we all > genuinelly LIKED everyone we met. and there was that bond of > complete trust. .. > > Kinda renews ones faith in human nature... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 > * "Wow!" barked Tom, with a bow. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 2 09:55:45 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:55:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> Brad and Trevor, You guys nailed it. Great bunch of people. I've been to a few other meets where the Spridgets are the splinter group. Not at LotO. Everyone got along great. Even let me park in the lot. Nope, the only snobbery I observed was justly aimed at JustEd and his taste for Lite Ed, ever see a sunrise? Anyway, I'm still smiling. Let's do it again! Peter C ==== At 10:40 AM 7/2/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >Everyone getting along, actually made it BETTER than any of MY family >reunions. >I was just happy to get to crawl under a car, less than 2 hours after >arriving, and get to help out. I got to play nurse to Dr. Clarici... >Dr. Clarici "9/16 wrench" >Nurse Tequila "9/16 wrench" >Dr. Clarici "ratchet and socket to match" >Nurse Tequila "ratchet and socket" >It was a pleasure to be able to assist such greatness. My life list of >Spridget accomplishments has had the top three items checked off now.... > >On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Bill L wrote: > > > Hello Trevor, > > > > couldn't agree more about the people thing... > > > > for me it was more like one of my FAMILY RE-UNIONS than anything > > else... everyone not only got along with everyone else, we all > > genuinelly LIKED everyone we met. and there was that bond of > > complete trust. .. > > > > Kinda renews ones faith in human nature... > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 > > * "Wow!" barked Tom, with a bow. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 10:04:57 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:04:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <794257339.20080702090457@pacifier.com> Hello Peter, The only way i'm doin' it again is if its this side of the ROCKIES... i don't plan to drive over them again. .. in ANY car, let alone one without air conditioning... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Go ahead, jump. 100,000 lemmings can't be wrong. From billmasq at hotmail.com Wed Jul 2 10:16:01 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:16:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <794257339.20080702090457@pacifier.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> <794257339.20080702090457@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill L- what the heck are you doing awake this early???!!! I just got up and I went to bed 3 hours before you did! This has got to have been the greatest car gettogether that I have ever attended, but it WAS a long trip! If there were west and east get-togethers like the Mini folks do (Mini Meet East and Mini Meet West) then I truly believe that we would probably have about as many folks at each one as we did at the "national" that we just had. Actually now that the Mini ranks are getting smaller it ALMOST may make sense to POSSIBLY think about combining the Mini/Spridget events? As a many of us know, it takes a lot of work and time to put one of these on and combining the two may work? I am really glad that we had the "national" one so that I could meet everyone that I did and it was worth every minute of the drive but as Bill L said, this is probably the last time that I plan to spend 8 days driving the Sprite, I'm getting too old! Bill M> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:04:57 -0700> From: pythias at pacifier.com> To: peter at nosimport.com> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] We Made It!> > Hello Peter,> > The only way i'm doin' it again is if its this side of the> ROCKIES... i don't plan to drive over them again. .. in ANY car,> let alone one without air conditioning... > > -- > Best regards,> Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com> '66 Sprite HAN8L49403> Go ahead, jump. 100,000 lemmings can't be wrong. > _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Do more with your photos with Windows Live Photo Gallery. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_photos_022008 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 10:31:20 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 11:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> <313CFBEC9B1946FE8C11120861674F00@midget> <469094333.20080702080453@pacifier.com> <8c1781040807020821h1230e15aq49de04d45683342e@mail.gmail.com> <1638772303.20080702082655@pacifier.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080702104741.03808dd8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Martha commented about "how nice the guys are, to let the little Mini run" I told her that if it were not for the guy in the "little Mini", most of us wouldn't be on the road. I wonder how many of us at LotO were running Peter C shocks. I know "I" am!! On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Peter C wrote: > Brad and Trevor, > You guys nailed it. Great bunch of people. I've been to a > few other meets where the Spridgets are the splinter group. Not at > LotO. Everyone got along great. Even let me park in the lot. Nope, > the only snobbery I observed was justly aimed at JustEd and his taste > for Lite Ed, ever see a sunrise? > > Anyway, I'm still smiling. Let's do it again! > > Peter C > ==== > At 10:40 AM 7/2/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: > >Everyone getting along, actually made it BETTER than any of MY family > >reunions. > >I was just happy to get to crawl under a car, less than 2 hours after > >arriving, and get to help out. I got to play nurse to Dr. Clarici... > >Dr. Clarici "9/16 wrench" > >Nurse Tequila "9/16 wrench" > >Dr. Clarici "ratchet and socket to match" > >Nurse Tequila "ratchet and socket" > >It was a pleasure to be able to assist such greatness. My life list of > >Spridget accomplishments has had the top three items checked off now.... > > > >On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Bill L wrote: > > > > > Hello Trevor, > > > > > > couldn't agree more about the people thing... > > > > > > for me it was more like one of my FAMILY RE-UNIONS than anything > > > else... everyone not only got along with everyone else, we all > > > genuinelly LIKED everyone we met. and there was that bond of > > > complete trust. .. > > > > > > Kinda renews ones faith in human nature... > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 > > > * "Wow!" barked Tom, with a bow. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 2 10:54:18 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:54:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dash knobs In-Reply-To: <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net> <486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080702115151.0362a250@nosimport.com> Frank, (and others) Remember the dash knob discussion in the LotO lot? Here's the guy. http://www.pensburymanor.com/Pensbury_Garage.html Peter C == From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 2 10:55:13 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:55:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake drums Message-ID: <81C7325A2437442C91FBC82DF2117223@Home> I just noticed that my "new" rear brake drums have two oval inspection holes instead of one round one. I need rubber plugs. Does anyone know what car might have the same brake drums but with two oval holes? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From stevenm at optonline.net Wed Jul 2 13:36:15 2008 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:36:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 Message-ID: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> I've got a bit of trouble with my clutch pedal. It seems that the the hole at the top of the clutch pedal and the hole on the clutch MC push rod have both been stretched into oblong shapes, resulting in extra free play in the pedal, and the push rod isn't getting pushed in all the way, creating an "iffy" shifting situation. Here is a picture of the mess... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/clutch_pedal_trouble.jpg I guess welding a proper hole onto the end of the clutch pedal would be the tidyest thing to do. But I don't do welding. What I think I want to do at least at first is go after the hole with some bits of metal and lots of JB Weld. Also, I see that I probably have to un-mount the entire MC support structure to get the clutch MC off, to get the push rod out, which looks like no fun, so I will probably opt to do some sort of repair on the existing push rod as well. Or is there a way to get that push rod out with dissecting the whole thing? I am just back from the (closing this year) Moss store in Dover, NJ, and have a new push rod in hand. OR, does anyone have a spare clutch pedal they can part with? Thanks, Steve From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 2 14:49:03 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 13:49:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 In-Reply-To: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> References: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> Message-ID: <00a401c8dc85$118132a0$6503f204@spider> I'd replace the worn parts while you can still get them. This is a safety issue and I don't think JB Weld is that trustworthy is this application. ...bill From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 2 15:12:45 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! Message-ID: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Bill wrote and I second: > The only way i'm doin' it again is if its this side of the > ROCKIES... i don't plan to drive over them again. .. in ANY car, > let alone one without air conditioning... That was tough. I worried about you two until you posted today. The only way I made it was to cross the remaining high desert section after the continental divide at night. An all night 668 mile dash from SLC to Davis. Thinking of all the exploded deer you see all day by the side of 80 and the huge truck tire treds you barely missed in the daytime, and then knowing you are going to have to dash it in the dark or take two more days. Dozing at the wheel wasn't much of an option. Sore hands from a death grip on the wheel, a sore neck from craning foreward as if it would somehow give you an extra half second to react, definite options. Never again. Glen From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 2 15:33:45 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 In-Reply-To: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> References: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> Message-ID: <486BF439.6040203@b2systems.com> I know you said you don't weld but a good welder can make that pedal as good as new in no time at all. The push rod could also be done but I would suggest a new one instead. Don't know about this car but I would look for a circlip to get out the push rod. I agree with the previous poster, this is not where you want to mickey mouse it. mike Steven Michelsen wrote: > I've got a bit of trouble with my clutch pedal. It seems that the the hole at the top of the clutch pedal and the hole on the clutch MC push rod have both been stretched into oblong shapes, resulting in extra free play in the pedal, and the push rod isn't getting pushed in all the way, creating an "iffy" shifting situation. Here is a picture of the mess... > > http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/clutch_pedal_trouble.jpg > > I guess welding a proper hole onto the end of the clutch pedal would be the tidyest thing to do. But I don't do welding. What I think I want to do at least at first is go after the hole with some bits of metal and lots of JB Weld. Also, I see that I probably have to un-mount the entire MC support structure to get the clutch MC off, to get the push rod out, which looks like no fun, so I will probably opt to do some sort of repair on the existing push rod as well. Or is there a way to get that push rod out with dissecting the whole thing? I am just back from the (closing this year) Moss store in Dover, NJ, and have a new push rod in hand. > > OR, does anyone have a spare clutch pedal they can part with? > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 2 15:33:59 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:33:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <486B91D7.27278.11EE7D0@dmg.bossig.com> After a few coast-to-coast trips in my old '67 Sprite I made me a rule, that I've stuck to ever since... 300 miles a day max - 400 only if it's VERY important!! Why?? My right knee has never been OK since a non-stop trip from Dallas-FW to Huntsville, Al. in 1981 to head off a divorce hearing.. If I had known then what I know now, I would have taken my time and let the Ex go ahead and file the paper-work - then I would still have had the '67 a.k.a. "The Hulk" ;-\ On 2 Jul 2008 at 14:12, Glen Byrns wrote: >> Thinking of all the exploded deer you see all day by the side of 80 >> and the huge truck tire treds you barely missed in the daytime, and >> then knowing you are going to have to dash it in the dark or take two >> more days -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 2 15:50:10 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:50:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 In-Reply-To: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> Message-ID: <20080702175010.VBV9U.657360.root@fepweb01> Steve, Take the pedal out and have a welder do it. Replace both the pushrod and clevis pin. Probably a good time to replace or rebuild the master cylinder. Cheers Tracy ---- Steven Michelsen wrote: > I've got a bit of trouble with my clutch pedal. It seems that the the hole at the top of the clutch pedal and the hole on the clutch MC push rod have both been stretched into oblong shapes, resulting in extra free play in the pedal, and the push rod isn't getting pushed in all the way, creating an "iffy" shifting situation. Here is a picture of the mess... > > http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/clutch_pedal_trouble.jpg > > I guess welding a proper hole onto the end of the clutch pedal would be the tidyest thing to do. But I don't do welding. What I think I want to do at least at first is go after the hole with some bits of metal and lots of JB Weld. Also, I see that I probably have to un-mount the entire MC support structure to get the clutch MC off, to get the push rod out, which looks like no fun, so I will probably opt to do some sort of repair on the existing push rod as well. Or is there a way to get that push rod out with dissecting the whole thing? I am just back from the (closing this year) Moss store in Dover, NJ, and have a new push rod in hand. > > OR, does anyone have a spare clutch pedal they can part with? > > Thanks, > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jul 2 16:56:23 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:56:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Post DELETE Message-ID: <927B53DCD56640A08074072B80E9D174@Dell9200> I tried to post a 4K email to the list but I haven't seen it come though. Maybe it is too big, if this one comes through I will split it up and try again. From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jul 2 17:03:09 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:03:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Car Show Ideas Part 1 of 2 Message-ID: <806F2D9A388E4EFD9F9B860210ABE2D4@Dell9200> Guys, In regard to the LotO Car Show: I take my Bugeye to 5 or 6 car shows every year and have shown cars for the last 12 years or so. We travel to the shows not to win but to have a driving destination and to be able to drink beer, tell lies and "act up" out of town. As you may recall my car was the "winner" in the Bugeye class. I must say that it came as a complete shock to me. Although I was pleased to think that "youse guys" liked my car it was NOT, in my opinion, the car that should have won the Bugeye Class. I talked to Jim before I left about a way that it could be done that was more fair to those that have made every effort to have a correct Bugeye. In my opinion Leo's (Iris) should have won first, the Leaf Green Bugeye should have won second and from there it is a bit hazy. I suggested that there should be two Bugeye Classes, something like Street Bugeye and Original Bugeye. Almost nothing in my car is as it was in 58 compared to Leo's car that was near perfect. I was in charge of vote counting for a local show a few years ago where the ballots were confusing, and the cars were parked in random order. The participants voted for MG's in the Healey Class, Sprites in the Jaguar Class, Healeys in the Triumph Class, etc. We had the trophies all made up and we needed to do something to give them away. Since there was no way to tabulate the actual votes I grabbed two more Club members and we chose the cars based on our opinion. We made sure to eliminate our cars so if we got caught we wouldn't look too bad. Sometimes the participants don't play along with the organizers. I have a few suggestions for next time, and I sure hope there is a next time! See Part 2 for the rest of the story....... Mark From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Jul 2 17:04:39 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:04:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Car Show Ideas Part 2 of 2 Message-ID: Part 2 of 2 I have a few suggestions for next time, and I sure hope there is a next time! 1. Only vote for one car in a class. The car with the most votes comes in FIRST, The car with the second most votes comes in second and the same for Third. 2. Park the cars by class and have signs describing the class and a class NUMBER that corresponds to the exact information on the Ballot. 3. Park the cars in the same order as they appear on the ballot. (makes for much faster and more accurate voting) 4. If a class is empty, leave the sign up and mark it that there are no cars in this class. 5. Have a set time for voting. Cars on display by 9:00 AM, Voting starts at 10:00 AM, Ballots to be deposited in the box by Noon. 6. Everybody wants to go home with something, I say split the Midgets and Sprites like at LotO. 7. Have one "BEST OF SHOW" on the ballot, it is usually obvious as it was at LotO, in my opinion. 8. Have bigger Numbers on the windshield so they can be seen from a distance. (Nobody wants to mark their ballot next to a car owner.) 9. Here is how we count votes: One person has all of the ballots in front of them . They pass around ballots one at a time to a group of people that record the votes for cars in two (2) classes and then pass the ballot on to the next person who does the same for their two classes. Once all of the ballots have been recorded the lead person scores the show and gives the listings to the show chairman. We can count ballots for 200 cars in about 30-45 minutes this way. If a car is voted for in the wrong class it is thrown out. 10. DO NOT allow rain! Suggested Classes: Bugeye (Original) (Entrants Choice) Bugeye (Street) (Entrants Choice) - (Must have A Series Engine) Sprite MK II Sprite MK III Sprite MK IV Midget MK I Midget MK II Midget MK III Midget MK III 1500 Sprite/Midget Modified (Street V6, Suzuki, Blower, etc. Sprite/Midget Competition (Race Cars) Best of Show (Should also be Class Winner) I have to say that LotO was the best event I have been to, ever! The location was good, the people were great! Thanks again to all for putting it together and making it happen. OH! one more suggestion, can we get a coffee pot somewhere in the mornings. The $2.00 coffee was a bummer :) Mark Nashville From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 2 17:15:59 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:15:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It Message-ID: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> Sandi and I arrived in Salinas a couple of hours ago with the dead Bugzuki in tow. Staying an extra day in Colorado is the reason we just arrived. For those of you not at LotO, Bugzuki died on Saturday with what is now thought to be blown innards in the electronic distributor (from a 4 cylinder Metro). Will post more later when I get a chance to look at it. For now it just stays in the trailer. I have been to a lot of car shows in my life and I will agree with others that this was by far the best and the most expensive :-))) It was really nice to put a face with people I have been (in some cases) talking to for 10 years or so. The Tundra with the trailer in tow got about 11.5 MPG for 2,107 miles. Gas price ranged from $3.86 to $4.99. Brad Sandi, Glen and I took it upon ourselves to use the method you spoke of. We assigned point values to a first, second and third place votes and added the scores to determine the places. Larry & Sandi Miller From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 18:40:38 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:40:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! References: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <007501c8dca5$6acc0810$6501a8c0@shop> <> Ah, you three could rent/borrow/steal a 4 passenger p/u WITH A/C and a trailer for the 3 cars and be GOOD to go, Glen!!! AND FWIW & FYI, I did NOT have the A/C on in the Camino!!! I figured if no A/C was good enough for Spridgeteers, it was good enough for me!! Not even around Osage Beach!! The ONLY time from when I left home 'til I got back was for Tiffany!! Somebody else (Frank??) can tell THAT story!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 18:49:17 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:49:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! References: <486ADD69.3010107@comcast.net><486A8197.31802.27F39F7@dmg.bossig.com> <486AF73B.7060505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008f01c8dca6$9fbe9b90$6501a8c0@shop> <> I knew about Brad, but I could NOT believe YOU visited "The Trunk Bar", Frank !! LOL From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 19:08:50 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 19:08:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It References: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <00f801c8dca9$5b406630$6501a8c0@shop> <> Glad to hear you 2 are home safe & sound, Larry. GREAT meeting you!!! In case anybody is counting, we have NOT heard from Engineer Mike and/or Gerard !?!?!? From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 19:21:00 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:21:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It In-Reply-To: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> References: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <1304546460.20080702182100@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, Keep us posted as to the diagnosis of Bug-Zuki. Its tooooOO Cool! and we are all probaly neary as bummed out as you are that it died.... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Fact: Most criminals were raised by heterosexual parents. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 2 19:33:29 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:33:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It! In-Reply-To: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <722597461.20080702183329@pacifier.com> Hello Glen, the rise on the "northern" route is not nearly as drastic as the rise out of SLC... .. but then again the rise thru nebraska is nearly infinesemal. .. Still, with the fuel available and the rise, i was at times flooring it to go 40 mph in 4th. That plus the heat and dehydration factor, AND the sheer time involved. .. now i must admit to the wonderful rugged beauty of the drive. Andrew and I took a ton of spectacular pictures thru Wyoming on both routes. An experience of a lifetime for him, so worth it for me. .. he can do it himself if HE wants more.... and i have to say, and i think you'll agree, for this event, and to meet these people ..IT WAS WORTH IT! but not twice! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "How do you get this horse to stop?," asked Tom woefully. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 2 19:34:32 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It In-Reply-To: <00f801c8dca9$5b406630$6501a8c0@shop> References: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> <00f801c8dca9$5b406630$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <11880a2a3c0a3eb00a18700a.20080702183432.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> We made it home night before last after a layover in Tucumcari. My F150 with the 5.4 liter engine averaged 15 MPG for the entire trip pulling the trailer and 4 people inside. Gas was almost $1000 for the trip. Not too bad if you are splitting it with someone. Gerard took off last night for the last leg home for him to San Francisco. I see an email from him on another list today so I assume he made it O.K. Don't know about Gerard, but I had a ball at LotO 50th. Don't know if I want to drive that far again though. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Ed's Shop > <> > > Glad to hear you 2 are home safe & sound, Larry. > > GREAT meeting you!!! > > In case anybody is counting, > we have NOT heard from Engineer Mike and/or Gerard !?!?!? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jul 2 19:50:59 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 20:50:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO participant from Quebec? In-Reply-To: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <20080703015059.BTB22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Just wondering- Traveling North from Kenosha to Milwaukee I passed what looked like a red MKII with a white hard top. Wild! It looked like there was a big German shepherd in the passenger seat. License plates from Quebec. Anyone recall them there? I had co-workers in my car so I couldn't do a shout out unfortunately. Chris 66MKIII Milwaukee, WI From hardy.john at cox.net Wed Jul 2 19:52:34 2008 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windshield glazing In-Reply-To: <6BAA4FDC-A644-41D6-89BA-21C883D6C10E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080702215234.Y2ULN.529075.imail@fed1rmwml28> Phil Get in touch with the folks at McGreggor, they will have what you need and it will be high quality. http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com Cheers, John ---- Phil Nase wrote: > Back from Loto and back to work on the project. I can't find a source > for windshield glazing for my Bugeye. Does anyone know of a source? > Thanks. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > bugi1960 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 20:55:48 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:55:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mark Hanna Message-ID: Anyone know if he and Joanna made it home safely?? -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jul 2 22:21:24 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:21:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mark Hanna References: Message-ID: <00b001c8dcc4$417cd560$6501a8c0@shop> <> I haven't heard from him either, Brad. I'll try to call them tomorrow. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 21:23:11 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 23:23:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <486B7B37.4080902@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001b01c8dcbc$1f2722c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Thanks Frank. I don't know. I am looking at the original patch of OEW that I have on the car. The new paint is close. Real close. I think you have a good idea how difficult it is to express all this in digital photos. Like I stated, on the 4th I am having three LBC afficionados comming over for barbecue. They are.. A present owner of a '64 E-type Jag. He says his jag is OEW, but I think its Cream, since the OEW was only a factory color from '70 on for E-types. In any case, I don't think OEW on a later Jag is comparable, so I expect an extended arguement. This gentleman has also formally owned a 3000 Healey. Next, An elderly gentlmen, a former owner of several Morgans, presently a 911 owner (the above gentleman's father). He is old enough to have witnessed OEW Bugeyes in the heyday..we'll see. My eldest brother, a former Bugeye owner and a former Lotus Europa owner. He has recently purchased a 74' Midget to restore. He has also painted the Lotus and Bugeye himself in the past and has been my inspiration. Only my brother knows it's Rustoleum, has seen the car and likes what he sees. However, at this point, Only I have looked at the original OEW patch and compared it to the new paint. They will all get to do the same on the 4th....and decide, I will do my best to post and express each of their opinions without bias. I will also allow them to examine digital photograhs of all the OEW bugeyes I have photographed and collected off the web over the years. I don't think a perfect color match is possible. I think the original OEW alkyd paint fades over time. Not from UV, but from atmospheric oxidation. I think that is why, IMHO, some of the OEW re-creations I have seen have too much of a brown tinge. In the end, color is all subjective. If you were to ask me, I would say the new paint is just a teeney, tiny shade lighter than the original OEW patch of paint. But then again, we know that the patch is almost 50 years old. So, if anything, I think I have errored toward the right side of things... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > Dean Hedin wrote: >> "In the sun" photos, These were taken about 4:30 in the afternoon >> >> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1119-01.jpg >> >> > My buddy painted his MKIII with Rustoleum several years ago. > It still looks great as does Dean's. > I like it. From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 2 21:30:25 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:30:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mark Hanna In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486C47D1.7020101@wi.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > Anyone know if he and Joanna made it home safely?? > I was wondering also. I have some parts he wanted but do not have contact info. Anybody have contacts for the Estes Park Duo? Dave 59 :{) (Leaf green) Burlington WI From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 2 21:38:38 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:38:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <001b01c8dcbc$1f2722c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com> <00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <486B7B37.4080902@comcast.net> <001b01c8dcbc$1f2722c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <486C49BE.9060704@wi.net> FWIW, my MGA is OEW and when I had it painted 21 years ago the best match we had was Sherman Williams Automotive F10 A2276 used with appropriate hardeners. When parked next to an OEW original XK120, there was no difference. Very chip resistant too. My $1.25 Dave 59 :{) (Leaf Green) Burlington WI Dean Hedin wrote: > Thanks Frank. > > I don't know. I am looking at the original patch of OEW that I have on > the car. The new paint is close. Real close. I think you have a good idea > how difficult it is to express all this in digital photos. > > Like I stated, on the 4th I am having three LBC afficionados comming > over for barbecue. > > They are.. > A present owner of a '64 E-type Jag. He says his jag is OEW, but I think > its Cream, since the OEW was only a factory color from '70 on for E-types. > In any case, I don't think OEW on a later Jag is comparable, so I expect an > extended arguement. This gentleman has also formally owned a 3000 Healey. > > Next, An elderly gentlmen, a former owner of several Morgans, presently a > 911 > owner (the above gentleman's father). He is old enough to have witnessed > OEW Bugeyes in the heyday..we'll see. > > My eldest brother, a former Bugeye owner and a former Lotus Europa > owner. He has recently purchased a 74' Midget to restore. He has also > painted the Lotus and Bugeye himself in the past and has been my > inspiration. > > Only my brother knows it's Rustoleum, has seen the car and likes what he > sees. > > However, at this point, Only I have looked at the original OEW patch and > compared it to the new paint. > > They will all get to do the same on the 4th....and decide, I will do my > best to > post and express each of their opinions without bias. > > I will also allow them to examine digital photograhs of all the OEW bugeyes > I have > photographed and collected off the web over the years. > > I don't think a perfect color match is possible. I think the original OEW > alkyd paint fades over time. Not from UV, but from atmospheric oxidation. > I think that is why, IMHO, some of the OEW re-creations I have seen have > too > much of a brown tinge. > > In the end, color is all subjective. If you were to ask me, I would say the > new paint > is just a teeney, tiny shade lighter than the original OEW patch of paint. > > But then again, we know that the patch is almost 50 years old. > So, if anything, I think I have errored toward the right side of things... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 2 21:38:54 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:38:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mark Hanna In-Reply-To: <486C47D1.7020101@wi.net> References: <486C47D1.7020101@wi.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807022038n14f6c238ie73006ba5ebf41e7@mail.gmail.com> I'll try to contact them in the morning. They stayed through Sunday and I think I saw the trailer still there on Monday when we finally pulled out... Cheers!! Jim On 7/2/08, David Woerpel wrote: > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > Anyone know if he and Joanna made it home safely?? > > > > I was wondering also. I have some parts he wanted but do not have > contact info. Anybody have contacts for the Estes Park Duo? > > Dave 59 :{) (Leaf green) > Burlington WI From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Jul 2 23:25:19 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 01:25:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <48628F98.90602@comcast.net><003401c8d71c$a1b88620$0400a8c0@blackbox2><205cef430807011100w308f8c5euf13938b4b2359e9c@mail.gmail.com><00cc01c8dbfe$d5192470$0400a8c0@blackbox2><486B7B37.4080902@comcast.net><001b01c8dcbc$1f2722c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <486C49BE.9060704@wi.net> Message-ID: <006501c8dccd$2f04cfb0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> I don't believe that an original OEW 1954 XK120 looks the same 20 years ago as it did when it came off the. production line. I know with certainty that Oil Alkyd paint fades over time. It is not a question of sun, but merely a matter of time in the oxygen. So, I argue that when you matched with Sherman Williams Automotive F10 A2276, you matched perfectly to an XK120 that had faded 30 years or so. For this reason I don't think we can ever perfectly match. And I defintely do not believe Leylend could match 1958 bugeye OEW with Jaguar 1970 OEW. For one thing I suspect the paint chemistry changed by that time. Finally which one of these is the correct OEW for XK120? http://www.xkdata.com/gallery/results/?exterior=old+english+white Some of those look like snow white to me, However these look different http://www.xkdata.com/gallery/zoom/?id=35082 http://www.xkdata.com/gallery/zoom/?id=37198 Which one did yours look like? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > FWIW, my MGA is OEW and when I had it painted 21 years ago the best > match we had was Sherman Williams Automotive F10 A2276 used with > appropriate hardeners. When parked next to an OEW original XK120, there > was no difference. Very chip resistant too. > My $1.25 > Dave From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 3 01:38:41 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:38:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <006501c8dccd$2f04cfb0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean Hedin wrote: "For one thing I suspect the paint chemistry changed by that time." By "chemistry" I assume you mean formulae. It is for that reason that I believe that the only way to get the match is through spectrographic analysis of "virgin" paint. That would be paint never exposed to sunlight or other elements of nature. Mine "virgin" paint was under the tail light assembly protected by the original rubber gaskets. I was fortunate that the local Maaco owner saw it as a challenge, as did the national office, and that they worked with DuPont and with some information Frank supplied. (Maaco has since used the car in national advertising, and the local dealer keeps asking me to bring it in and leave a couple of days so they can show it off to bigwigs. In return they wax and detail it for me.) Incidentally, at Frank Clarici's suggestion, they welded re-rod into the interior of both front wheel arches. Frank, you might explain the benefits of this, for you have more experience with the problem that I. Buster From midget at maxengland.com Thu Jul 3 03:39:10 2008 From: midget at maxengland.com (midget at maxengland.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:39:10 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types Message-ID: <41900.212.166.46.72.1215077950.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Hello everyone. I'm trying to understand what are the different types of steering columns. I have a british 1968 MK3 midget (GAN4 62821) with a motolita steering wheel. I recently bought an early original bakolite wheel, the one with 3 pairs of chrome sticks. The splines do not match between steering wheel and column, so I would think my steering column is non original. My steering column's part number probably is AHA9792, it looks like number 10 on this page anyway: http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1666 Last detail: the steering wheel fits perfectly on my dad's 1960 MGA steering column. Any info on that and where can I source the steering column i need? Thanks a lot. Max www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 3 06:19:50 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types Message-ID: <24379587.1215087590021.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I would think that you need the later rubber steering wheel with the rubber horn push etc. Not the plastic rimmed with three pairs of chrome spokes. I think that '68 was kind of a safety changeover year. In other words, they started messing stuff up irreversibly. Is your dash completely padded? That will tell you a great deal. Hope this helps. Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: midget at maxengland.com >Sent: Jul 3, 2008 5:39 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types > >Hello everyone. > >I'm trying to understand what are the different types of steering columns. >I have a british 1968 MK3 midget (GAN4 62821) with a motolita steering >wheel. >I recently bought an early original bakolite wheel, the one with 3 pairs >of chrome sticks. The splines do not match between steering wheel and >column, so I would think my steering column is non original. My steering >column's part number probably is AHA9792, it looks like number 10 on this >page anyway: >http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1666 > >Last detail: the steering wheel fits perfectly on my dad's 1960 MGA >steering column. > >Any info on that and where can I source the steering column i need? > >Thanks a lot. > >Max >www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 3 06:19:35 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:19:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types Message-ID: <24984107.1215087575918.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I would think that you need the later rubber steering wheel with the rubber horn push etc. Not the plastic rimmed with three pairs of chrome spokes. I think that '68 was kind of a safety changeover year. In other words, they started messing stuff up irreversibly. Is your dash completely padded? That will tell you a great deal. Hope this helps. Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: midget at maxengland.com >Sent: Jul 3, 2008 5:39 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types > >Hello everyone. > >I'm trying to understand what are the different types of steering columns. >I have a british 1968 MK3 midget (GAN4 62821) with a motolita steering >wheel. >I recently bought an early original bakolite wheel, the one with 3 pairs >of chrome sticks. The splines do not match between steering wheel and >column, so I would think my steering column is non original. My steering >column's part number probably is AHA9792, it looks like number 10 on this >page anyway: >http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1666 > >Last detail: the steering wheel fits perfectly on my dad's 1960 MGA >steering column. > >Any info on that and where can I source the steering column i need? > >Thanks a lot. > >Max >www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 3 06:21:57 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:21:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home again Message-ID: <057e01c8dd07$636f5790$6401a8c0@personal> Wow, what a trip. Good times all. Jack From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 06:39:40 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: <24379587.1215087590021.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <24379587.1215087590021.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: FWIW, the 68-69 still had the spoke wheel, but the hub was specific to those years. I know, I had to buy a 69, just to get the wheel for our 68. Brad On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:19 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter < mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote: > I would think that you need the later rubber steering wheel with the rubber > horn push etc. Not the plastic rimmed with three pairs of chrome spokes. I > think that '68 was kind of a safety changeover year. In other words, they > started messing stuff up irreversibly. Is your dash completely padded? > That will tell you a great deal. > > Hope this helps. > > Mike Carpenter > > -----Original Message----- > >From: midget at maxengland.com > >Sent: Jul 3, 2008 5:39 AM > >To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types > > > >Hello everyone. > > > >I'm trying to understand what are the different types of steering columns. > >I have a british 1968 MK3 midget (GAN4 62821) with a motolita steering > >wheel. > >I recently bought an early original bakolite wheel, the one with 3 pairs > >of chrome sticks. The splines do not match between steering wheel and > >column, so I would think my steering column is non original. My steering > >column's part number probably is AHA9792, it looks like number 10 on this > >page anyway: > >http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1666 > > > >Last detail: the steering wheel fits perfectly on my dad's 1960 MGA > >steering column. > > > >Any info on that and where can I source the steering column i need? > > > >Thanks a lot. > > > >Max > >www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 06:40:20 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:40:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home again In-Reply-To: <057e01c8dd07$636f5790$6401a8c0@personal> References: <057e01c8dd07$636f5790$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Thanks for your supervision. It made getting my engine test bed running much sooner!! Brad On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:21 AM, Jack Laird wrote: > Wow, what a trip. Good times all. > > Jack > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From frogeye at cox.net Thu Jul 3 06:40:45 2008 From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:40:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column issues Message-ID: <039f01c8dd0a$03c1e7b0$e5b10144@maind> Max, I think the issue is the exact size of your 1968. There are 2 sizes ....one is a 3/4" with 50 teeth on the spline. The 68 - 69 wheels have a 5/8" bore and 36 teeth. The larger one was used 1965/66/67 only. I am sure someone will jump in and correct me if thats wrong. Mike's question about the dash is important also. I have seen your website and know you have a steel dash, correct? Alan From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 3 07:13:36 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:13:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO participant from Quebec? In-Reply-To: <20080703015059.BTB22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENT DELL> References: <200807022112.m62LCjZv002453@diometes.ucdavis.edu> <20080703015059.BTB22182.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080703081159.0373cbc8@nosimport.com> I'm pretty sure you saw Severin Thompson aka Flounder. He has that car with that plate, and a multitude of dogs matching that description and lives in the neighborhood... sort of. Peter C === At 08:50 PM 7/2/2008, Chris Manuel wrote: >Just wondering- >Traveling North from Kenosha to Milwaukee I passed what looked like a red >MKII with a white hard top. Wild! It looked like there was a big German >shepherd in the passenger seat. License plates from Quebec. Anyone recall >them there? > >I had co-workers in my car so I couldn't do a shout out unfortunately. > >Chris >66MKIII >Milwaukee, WI From midget at maxengland.com Thu Jul 3 07:25:30 2008 From: midget at maxengland.com (Max Slegers) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spridgets] steering column issues In-Reply-To: <039f01c8dd0a$03c1e7b0$e5b10144@maind> References: <039f01c8dd0a$03c1e7b0$e5b10144@maind> Message-ID: <47493.212.166.46.72.1215091530.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Hi all, Thanks for your answers. I have a steel dash indeed, not padded. But bear in mind that its a british car, not US, so there might be differences. I don't think European cars had padded dashboards. There might also be differences in the steering columns between US and UK cars. I'll count the number of teeth on the column and wheel tonight but I'm quite sure the steering column has fewer teeth than the wheel. So there are two types of original wheels? One with 50 teeth and one with 36 teeth? Pretty confusing! I'm convinced this wheel with wire spokes is the original one for my GAN-4 car and they changed when the facelift arrived, with the GAN-5 cars. Max www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget > Max, > I think the issue is the exact size of your 1968. > There are 2 sizes ....one is a 3/4" with 50 teeth on the spline. The 68 > - 69 > wheels have a 5/8" bore and 36 teeth. > The larger one was used 1965/66/67 only. > I am sure someone will jump in and correct me if thats wrong. > Mike's question about the dash is important also. > I have seen your website and know you have a steel dash, correct? > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as midget at maxengland.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 08:25:03 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:25:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486CE13F.4030101@comcast.net> I found that Dupont Whimbledon white (aka 63 Ford Falcon) was as close a match as any fleet color could be. If fact, with all the other OEW Bugeyes at LotO, I almost got in a couple of wrong cars instead of my 58. They all looked the same. One OEW Bugeye at the meet was much more of a cream color compared to most. Now let's get real, unless you park next to an old english white bugeye, new from the dealer and that never saw the sun, who's going to know the difference? As for the rebar inside the wheel lips, this will fix any flex or cracked apex of the wheel opening which seems to happen to most Bugeyes after about 35 yeas of metal fatigue. Just weld in some 1/4" rod around the inside of the wheel opening but do make sure the cheeks are pulled forward and the fender lines up with the rocker before you weld. Many Bugeyes with fenders that stick out past the rockers would benefit from these rods.Bulging wheel openings are cured too as are some front line up with the locating peg problems too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 08:50:34 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:50:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of LotO pics Message-ID: <486CE73A.2010801@comcast.net> Mostly family shots but some great pics of Spridgets and a beautiful lake. Jim, you can put these on the meet page with the other pics, or what ever ones you think are appropriate. http://www.flickr.com/photos/28202382 at N05/show/ -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 3 08:59:17 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:59:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 Message-ID: Wow, never seen one that bad before! In a message dated 02/07/2008 20:36:41 GMT Daylight Time, stevenm at optonline.net writes: http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/clutch_pedal_trouble.jpg From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 3 09:32:43 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of LotO pics Message-ID: <19368712.1215099163561.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Frank, Thanks for sharing the pictures. It looks like it was really a lot of fun. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Clarici >Sent: Jul 3, 2008 10:50 AM >To: Jim Johnson , Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of LotO pics > >Mostly family shots but some great pics of Spridgets and a beautiful lake. >Jim, you can put these on the meet page with the other pics, or what >ever ones you think are appropriate. > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/28202382 at N05/show/ > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 3 09:48:13 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:48:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: <41900.212.166.46.72.1215077950.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: Did you get the wheel with the horn button, or just the emblem? They have different splines. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 3 10:34:08 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:34:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto Message-ID: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> FINALLY got home yesterday and have sorted thru the 800+ e-mails which accumulated from my time at LOTO and wanted to say a few things: 1st..WOW, WOW, WOW, and WOW. What a memorable trip and what a lifetime of memories I will have from my wifes and my trip to LOTO. To finally meet face to face people I have gotten to know over the last fifteen years was incredible. What a great family I am a member of. Everyones commadrie and willingness to share their knowledge is such a fresh breath of air compared to a lot of people I know. It truly reaffirms my heartfelt belif that we as humans depend on interconnectedness to feed our heart and soul and truly make ourselves happy. I will cheris the memories from this trip for the rest of my life. 2nd.. THANKS sooo much to Jim and his gracious wife for their time and company while chasiong the part needed to fix my truck. Without it, getting the truck fixed would have been considerably more interesting, an experience I wont at all mind having missed . 3ed. Frank, Dane, Mark, Jim, Brad, Jack, Ed, Peter, Kevin, Alan and others who will remain anonomus due to their not wanting to be mentioned in the same sentence with me, I am forever indebted to you and will forever cherish our friendships. You all have been instrumental in finally getting Iris to LOTO and in shape to forever bring a smile to those I meet as she gets out and around. If the rain hadnt washed off her fresh perfume she was wearing for her debut I might have gotten first place in the car show. It was a phenerome guaranteed to entice the votes of all males within 10 feet... To Ed. The heater hose is correct and will forever be there.LOL 4th.My wife had the best time she has had in a while and for that I am so verrry happy. It was quite trying at time as various mechanical events happened but all worked out well and I had to constantly remind her that it is not about the destination, rather it is about the journey because as the journey unfolds new experiences and people present themselves in all their glory. 5th..How soon can we do this again???? Hopefully verrrry soon. I WILL however have to have enough time to save up enough spare money to cover the unexpected costs which seem to occur during my "journeys" to known destinations THOUGH.ROFL while wife is glaring. Time to get buzy.. Leo & Cathey From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:49:46 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:49:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> Message-ID: This reminds me of a lyric from a Slobberbone song. The PREMIER Slobberbone cover band will be playing their first show in 5 years, in two weeks. I cannot WAIT to be there!!! That Is All- Slobberbone "They'll say it's the trying not the being, the journey not arrival But all I'm seeing's discouraging reprisals Of every mistake I've made and all the things I'll never be" On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > > It was quite trying at time as various mechanical events happened but all > worked out well and I had to constantly remind her that it is not about the > destination, rather it is about the journey because as the journey unfolds > new experiences and people present themselves in all their glory. From midget at maxengland.com Thu Jul 3 11:00:14 2008 From: midget at maxengland.com (Max Slegers) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:00:14 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486D059E.2020201@maxengland.com> There was neither an emblem nor a horn push. But I got hold of a horn push and it fits. I confirm: my wheel has 50 teeth and the column has 36. What should I have in the end, 50 or 36 teeth? Anybody has a wheel with 36 teeth, or a column with 50 for sale? ...although i'm starting to think i might as well stick with the motolita wheel in the end... Max www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG%20Midget Billy Zoom a icrit : > Did you get the wheel with the horn button, or just the emblem? They have > different splines. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 3 11:16:19 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:16:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> Message-ID: <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> Forgot to mention: next time it needs to be advertised at the next show that the "hard luck essay" is to be submitted in writing...I should have won it.. 2 weeks before leaving one of our fur children hurts it's back and has to have back surgery and now is recovering nicely..cost..YOU dont want to know except that we are all in the wrong profession when it comes to time = $ conversion 1 1/2 weeks before leaving. Self inflicted damage to Iris's blue complexion and painter had living hell making her repair totally undetectable and then HE proceeded to damage other items which HE gets to replace and repair at no charge (one NOS AMCO wind wing and a minor scuff on the hardtop) 4 hours before leaving.. knock off beehive lens on back of car and it cracks in half when it falls on the trailer floor so had to dig through parts stash to find matching replacements Fort Smith AR..hammer fit pin decides to fall out of front caliper and I have to wait overnight for auto parts store to open to replace a 99 cent part. Meanwhile as I was trying to go up the screwed up entrance to the hotel I chose to stay at the trailer tongue bottoms out in a dip at the entrance and while attempting to dislodge it I jackknife the trailer and dent the corner of the trailer Eureka Springs AR ...two inner tires on rear of truck decide to destruct and all 4 rear tires get replaced. (originals only had around 45 k on them but mountain roads played hell) Osage Beach MO...Injector pump goes south and has to be rebuilt All of the above is verifiable by recipets and significant reduction in bank account balance I want my damn award...ROFL...At least none of the above happened 500 miles in the middle of nowhere so all is fine and life is great. Now Greenie is good for another 100K... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1530 - Release Date: 7/2/2008 8:05 AM From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 3 11:24:41 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:24:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> Ya know Leo...... IF YA DROVE YOUR SPRITE, your truck would be fine! Ahem. (Except for the dog bit. sorry to hear about that.) Peter C. -------------------------- At 12:16 PM 7/3/2008, Leo wrote: >Forgot to mention: next time it needs to be advertised at the next show >that the "hard luck essay" is to be submitted in writing...I should have won >it.. > >2 weeks before leaving one of our fur children hurts it's back and has to >have back surgery and now is recovering nicely..cost..YOU dont want to know >except that we are all in the wrong profession when it comes to time = $ >conversion > >1 1/2 weeks before leaving. Self inflicted damage to Iris's blue complexion >and painter had living hell making her repair totally undetectable and then >HE proceeded to damage other items which HE gets to replace and repair at no >charge (one NOS AMCO wind wing and a minor scuff on the hardtop) > >4 hours before leaving.. knock off beehive lens on back of car and it cracks >in half when it falls on the trailer floor so had to dig through parts stash >to find matching replacements > >Fort Smith AR..hammer fit pin decides to fall out of front caliper and I >have to wait overnight for auto parts store to open to replace a 99 cent >part. Meanwhile as I was trying to go up the screwed up entrance to the >hotel I chose to stay at the trailer tongue bottoms out in a dip at the >entrance and while attempting to dislodge it I jackknife the trailer and >dent the corner of the trailer > >Eureka Springs AR ...two inner tires on rear of truck decide to destruct and >all 4 rear tires get replaced. (originals only had around 45 k on them but >mountain roads played hell) > >Osage Beach MO...Injector pump goes south and has to be rebuilt > >All of the above is verifiable by recipets and significant reduction in bank >account balance > > >I want my damn award...ROFL...At least none of the above happened 500 miles >in the middle of nowhere so all is fine and life is great. Now Greenie is >good for another 100K... From midget at maxengland.com Thu Jul 3 11:41:54 2008 From: midget at maxengland.com (Max Slegers) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:41:54 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486D0F62.8000608@maxengland.com> I bought it second hand. It's weird: on moss-europe there is only one wheel and it's the same one for MK2 and MK3 midgets (part number AHA9193)... So which one has 36 splines do you think? 10 or 11 on that page?: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29293 Max www.maxengland.com/photos.php?var_alb=MG+Midget Billy Zoom a icrit : > http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29293 > Did you get 10 or 11? They look the same, but have different splines. > I think the wheel you have will fit a Bugeye or early Mkll column. > I have one on my '62. I thought it looked cooler than the Bugeye wheel. > Everybody on the message board told me it shouldn't fit, but it did. I > suspect maybe Moss has the listings mixed up in their catalog. > Does your car use a horn button, or is the horn on the column? > I thought the '64 - '67 had 36 splines and a horn button, and the '68 - '69 > had 50 splines and no horn button. I may be wrong. There seems to be a lot > of confusion on this subject. From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jul 3 11:46:27 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:46:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> Message-ID: <644322016.20080703104627@pacifier.com> Hello Leo, i must say YOU were a complete delight. Sorry your trip went so awry, but glad is was worth it to ya! You were one of many people who made the drive worth it......next time DRIVE your sprite... (THAT should be your next project, a DRIVER. With the quality of your work (unmatched!) you could make one reliable enough to get ya anywhere ! Plus i loved the gambit that you and Florida Phil (anyone have contact info for Phil?) of taking apart your cars while everyone else went autorcrossing, knowing you could ask people one at a time as they came back for assistance!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "I need to go on a diet," said Tom wastefully. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 12:27:13 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Getting things fixed Message-ID: <839451.52948.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ryan, Air leak will likely be around throttle shafts on carbs. A little carb cleaner sprayed on outide and around intake manifold will show you where there are air leaks when engine is running. Idle speed change will happen when leak is pinpointed. Keep that fire extinguisher handy just in case. Bumper irons/frame does go up at the ends. Designed that way. Take the bumper off, looks better without it on both Spridgets and BE's. They don't do anything anyway in terms of crash protection. Radiator 4 bolts gets it out. 2 of those bolts are absolute bastards to get to. Water pump replacement, unless leaking/making nasty noises I'd lead alone. Close clearances in getting radiator out, be careful you don't run fan int oradiator on removing. Some favor removing 4 fan bolts, can I even get them out of there? to increase clearance. Can't remeber if I can get out. Captive nuts on fan shroud are a PITA and ofter are loose. Be sure to tighten up/remove and replace with nuts you can put a wrench on. Once you figure out the tricks, radiator can go in and out in a few minutes. Toughest part is getting access to bolts. Removing the grille is a necessity. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:29:09 2008 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <37dc82d40807031129w7e271efau7871667745189461@mail.gmail.com> Testing 1,2,3, From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 12:37:49 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 13:37:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Misc. Pic from LotO Message-ID: <43840a7e0807031137j6daea6efvf0e873a4af8ba698@mail.gmail.com> Tony Lipari sent this pic taken at the autocross by Rod Miller using Tony's camera.... Don't recall who's car this is..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/2633788699/ -- Cheers!! Jim From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 3 12:39:19 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 11:39:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40807031129w7e271efau7871667745189461@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40807031129w7e271efau7871667745189461@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009e01c8dd3c$1c0f2530$2c03f204@spider> Marco .... Polo ======================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:29 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Test Testing 1,2,3, _______________________________________________ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 3 13:25:09 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:25:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types Message-ID: Pretty much routine nowdays..... In a message dated 03/07/2008 18:42:20 GMT Daylight Time, midget at maxengland.com writes: It's weird: on moss-europe From lcjones at croakingfrog.net Thu Jul 3 14:19:47 2008 From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (Les Jones) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:19:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: <486D0F62.8000608@maxengland.com> References: <486D0F62.8000608@maxengland.com> Message-ID: <486D3463.6080301@croakingfrog.net> I've been watching this thread.... I have a 72 RWA with the "get-yer-pinky-stuck-the-hole" steering wheel. I also have a 69 with the banjo style spoked steering wheel. Which I would much rather have on the 72. Can the complete 69 steering column migrate to the 72 vehicle? Appreciate your thoughts... Chap ********************** Max Slegers wrote: > I bought it second hand. It's weird: on moss-europe there is only one > wheel and it's the same one for MK2 and MK3 midgets (part number > AHA9193)... From hannamj at juno.com Thu Jul 3 14:33:19 2008 From: hannamj at juno.com (Mark & Joanna) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:33:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] We made it home too! Message-ID: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Greetings All, Joanna, Jack and I made it home late Tuesday evening. We survived the 106 deg temperatures across Kansas without the air conditioning. The Colorado Rockies have never felt so good. We had a wonderful time in MO. Thank you to every one who worked so hard to make this show a truly stellar memory. It was great to meet so many people whom I have only known through the Spridgets list. Truly our Sprite would not be the car it is without all of the help from the list members. Joanna also thanks Brad for sharing his trunk bar and fine music. If any of you are ever in the Colorado area please look us up ;-) We have Spridget roads as good as any you have ever driven. Blessings to all our new (old) friends. Mark, Joanna and Jack...woof! ____________________________________________________________ Fabulous Spa Getaway! Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/JKFkuJNzuPkpHNM4qPG3zS7KaJolqJ1ro 5038i2O7yCLTpF16KOw00/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 14:37:22 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 15:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We made it home too! In-Reply-To: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Mark, how are YOU liking the music?? Ya damn Heathen you!! On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Mark & Joanna wrote: > Greetings All, > Joanna, Jack and I made it home late Tuesday evening. We survived the 106 > deg > temperatures across Kansas without the air conditioning. > The Colorado Rockies have never felt so good. We had a wonderful time in > MO. > Thank you to every one who worked so hard to make this show a truly stellar > memory. It was great to meet so many people whom I have only known through > the > Spridgets list. Truly our Sprite would not be the car it is without all of > the > help from the list members. Joanna also thanks Brad for sharing his trunk > bar > and fine music. If any of you are ever in the Colorado area please look us > up > ;-) We have Spridget roads as good as any you have ever driven. > Blessings to all our new (old) friends. > Mark, Joanna and Jack...woof! > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fabulous Spa Getaway! > Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/JKFkuJNzuPkpHNM4qPG3zS7KaJolqJ1ro > 5038i2O7yCLTpF16KOw00/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 15:08:53 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:08:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: <486D3463.6080301@croakingfrog.net> References: <486D0F62.8000608@maxengland.com> <486D3463.6080301@croakingfrog.net> Message-ID: <486D3FE5.8050903@comcast.net> Les Jones wrote: > Can the complete 69 steering column migrate to the 72 vehicle? > > > Yes it can, but the horn push is on the stalk on the 69. Between the 2, I'm sure you can make it work. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 3 15:11:30 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:11:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net><000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <008001c8dd51$5d6070b0$6401a8c0@personal> I think Leo showed us all how it should be done. Amazing, just amazing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto > Ya know Leo...... > > IF YA DROVE YOUR SPRITE, your truck would be fine! > > Ahem. > > (Except for the dog bit. sorry to hear about that.) > > Peter C. > -------------------------- > > At 12:16 PM 7/3/2008, Leo wrote: >>Forgot to mention: next time it needs to be advertised at the next show >>that the "hard luck essay" is to be submitted in writing...I should have >>won >>it.. >> >>2 weeks before leaving one of our fur children hurts it's back and has to >>have back surgery and now is recovering nicely..cost..YOU dont want to >>know >>except that we are all in the wrong profession when it comes to time = $ >>conversion >> >>1 1/2 weeks before leaving. Self inflicted damage to Iris's blue >>complexion >>and painter had living hell making her repair totally undetectable and >>then >>HE proceeded to damage other items which HE gets to replace and repair at >>no >>charge (one NOS AMCO wind wing and a minor scuff on the hardtop) >> >>4 hours before leaving.. knock off beehive lens on back of car and it >>cracks >>in half when it falls on the trailer floor so had to dig through parts >>stash >>to find matching replacements >> >>Fort Smith AR..hammer fit pin decides to fall out of front caliper and I >>have to wait overnight for auto parts store to open to replace a 99 cent >>part. Meanwhile as I was trying to go up the screwed up entrance to the >>hotel I chose to stay at the trailer tongue bottoms out in a dip at the >>entrance and while attempting to dislodge it I jackknife the trailer and >>dent the corner of the trailer >> >>Eureka Springs AR ...two inner tires on rear of truck decide to destruct >>and >>all 4 rear tires get replaced. (originals only had around 45 k on them but >>mountain roads played hell) >> >>Osage Beach MO...Injector pump goes south and has to be rebuilt >> >>All of the above is verifiable by recipets and significant reduction in >>bank >>account balance >> >> >>I want my damn award...ROFL...At least none of the above happened 500 >>miles >>in the middle of nowhere so all is fine and life is great. Now Greenie is >>good for another 100K... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 8:32 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jul 3 15:18:03 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:18:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We made it home too! In-Reply-To: References: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <524996424.20080703141803@pacifier.com> Hello Brad, I can't believe that you can sell that music at ALL, let alone to unsuspecting, susceptible, fellow spridgeteers! Oh well, to each his own in cars and cacophony! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 * "I flatly deny this," said Tom under pressure. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 15:21:35 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:21:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] We made it home too! In-Reply-To: <524996424.20080703141803@pacifier.com> References: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <524996424.20080703141803@pacifier.com> Message-ID: You know, if EVER anyone deserved a Triumph, it would be YOU!!!! LOL On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Brad, > > I can't believe that you can sell that music at ALL, let alone to > unsuspecting, susceptible, fellow spridgeteers! Oh well, to each > his own in cars and cacophony! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 > * "I flatly deny this," said Tom under pressure. > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 3 15:26:47 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:26:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <008001c8dd51$5d6070b0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> <008001c8dd51$5d6070b0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080703162534.0385de68@nosimport.com> Indeed.... Stunning car. I loved it. I'm just suggesting he should save the wear and tear on the truck. Peter At 04:11 PM 7/3/2008, Jack Laird wrote: >I think Leo showed us all how it should be done. Amazing, just amazing. > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" >To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; >Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:24 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto > > >>Ya know Leo...... >> >>IF YA DROVE YOUR SPRITE, your truck would be fine! >> >>Ahem. >> >>(Except for the dog bit. sorry to hear about that.) >> >>Peter C. From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 3 15:37:31 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:37:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> <008001c8dd51$5d6070b0$6401a8c0@personal> <7.0.1.0.2.20080703162534.0385de68@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <001301c8dd54$fffdbeb0$6401a8c0@personal> Aye, truck seems to be the weak link. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Jack Laird" ; "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto > Indeed.... Stunning car. I loved it. > > I'm just suggesting he should save the wear and tear on the truck. > > Peter > > At 04:11 PM 7/3/2008, Jack Laird wrote: >>I think Leo showed us all how it should be done. Amazing, just amazing. >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" >>To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; >>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:24 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto >> >> >>>Ya know Leo...... >>> >>>IF YA DROVE YOUR SPRITE, your truck would be fine! >>> >>>Ahem. >>> >>>(Except for the dog bit. sorry to hear about that.) >>> >>>Peter C. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1532 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 8:32 AM From lcjones at croakingfrog.net Thu Jul 3 16:55:10 2008 From: lcjones at croakingfrog.net (lcjones at croakingfrog.net) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:55:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering column types In-Reply-To: <486D3FE5.8050903@comcast.net> References: <486D0F62.8000608@maxengland.com> <486D3463.6080301@croakingfrog.net> <486D3FE5.8050903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <486D58CE.7050508@croakingfrog.net> That, sir, is indeed good news! enjoy... :) http://chapmanjones.com/mg/wedding-mg1.jpg ( My (our) '66 in '75 - Wedding Day) http://chapmanjones.com/mg/wedding-mg2.jpg (Stuffing The Bride) ... and now she's bustin' a gut for me to get the '72 on the road :) Thanks Frank & Brad! Chap ************ Frank Clarici wrote: > Les Jones wrote: >> Can the complete 69 steering column migrate to the 72 vehicle? >> >> >> > Yes it can, but the horn push is on the stalk on the 69. > Between the 2, I'm sure you can make it work. From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 3 17:25:54 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 16:25:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More LotO Pictures Message-ID: <012d01c8dd64$2484cc10$4e947e4c@HP> http://ado13.com/loto/loto.html Click on thumb nails for high res image's. Feel free to download and use for any purpose. Larry Miller From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 3 19:08:11 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 2008 VENTURA BRITISH CAR SHOW - July 27th - Oxnard Message-ID: <3994859.1215133691571.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The Central Coast British Car Club Presents: THE EIGHTEENTH ANNUAL VENTURA COUNTY BRITISH CAR SHOW Channel Islands Harbour * July 27th, 2008 Join us for a great afternoon at our wonderful waterfront location at the Channel Islands Harbour. This year we are honoring the Austin Healey marque, featuring the 50th anniversary of the Bugeye Sprite. There will be food, entertainment, vendors, and a swap meet and some of the finest British Cars in Southern California. Oxnard is but a short and lovely drive up the coast from Los Angeles b Come to Oxnard, enjoy the show, enjoy the ride, be back by supper b SEE YOU THERE!!! Website: www.centralcoastbritishcarclub.com INFORMATION: Gary Rice (805) 644-3290 Bill Guzman (805) 484-1528 ******************************************************* From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 19:55:57 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:55:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: Message-ID: <006701c8dd79$19ccc290$0400a8c0@blackbox2> No, What I said was: "And I defintely do not believe Leyland could match 1958 bugeye OEW with Jaguar 1970 OEW. For one thing I suspect the paint chemistry changed by that time." What I mean is stoving enamels were probably gone by 1970 and they moved on to acyrilics. For this reason I think if you parked a 1970 OEW Jag next to a 1958 OEW Bugeye they would not look the same (assuming they both had original paint). Buster, we each have a small patch of OEW original paint on our cars to look at and compare to. Have you considered the possibility that if I parked my car next to yours right now that they might just match up? Also, I hope you did not paint over your original "virgin patch". It is still there..Right? ----- Original Message ----- From: B- Evans Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint Dean Hedin wrote: "For one thing I suspect the paint chemistry changed by that time." By "chemistry" I assume you mean formulae. It is for that reason that I believe that the only way to get the match is through spectrographic analysis of "virgin" paint. That would be paint never exposed to sunlight or other elements of nature. Mine "virgin" paint was under the tail light assembly protected by the original rubber gaskets. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 3 21:05:21 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:05:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Will they accept my MasterCard? Message-ID: >From The Times of London (http://tinyurl.com/5glgv9): ..Jaguar auction revs up to go from 0 - #6m London--The 1960 Jaguar E2A prototype and the first Jaguar D-type to be made were shown at Bonhams auctioneers before going up for sale. The E2A, seen as the missing link between the D-type and the E-type, is to be sold in California next month and is expected to fetch about #3.5million. Bonhams described it as the most significant prototype ever produced at any time, anywhere. The two-seater 1955 D-type features in the Goodwood Festival of Speed sale in West Sussex next week, where bidding could go as high as #2.5million. Buster (No MC? Perhaps my personal check, then?) From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 3 21:24:05 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:24:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <486CE13F.4030101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002401c8dd85$6aba1cf0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> But that could also mean that several of those OEW Bugeyes at LotO were all painted with Dupont Whimbledon white. You know, because thier owners heard that Dupont Whimbledon is close match from several other owners. And they certainly did'nt want to stand out, better to stick with the norm. That's the worry...the collective version of what is OEW.... You know, that OEW we all come to know and love... I''ll tell ya what., if someone in OEW parks next to me and tells me my color is wrong... They better have a little patch of original OEW on their car to show me. Cause I got a little patch to show them! So far all I hear is Busters gotta patch, and I look foward to the day where we may compare. Buster, Does Whimbledon white match your original OEW patch? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" >I found that Dupont Whimbledon white (aka 63 Ford Falcon) was as close a >match as any fleet color could be. > If fact, with all the other OEW Bugeyes at LotO, I almost got in a couple > of wrong cars instead of my 58. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 3 21:40:56 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:40:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> References: <000601c8dd2a$9e0fa710$da2ef530$@net> <000001c8dd30$829ee800$87dcb800$@net> <7.0.1.0.2.20080703122127.03ace090@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <000001c8dd87$ca7a8650$5f6f92f0$@net> Couple of more shows and one Concours judging and then she gets driven to events. I want all the bugs to surface and get worked out before lots of miles are put on her. Iris's destiny is not to be a trailer queen you can rest assured of that although she will be kept original or as close to what I can get her. I think a driver is in the works. One that falls on the exact extreme opposite of Iris. Some billet, nice machine made one off parts, a little carbon fiber, datsun 5 speed, and some really trick paint done over impeccable bodywork. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:25 PM To: Leo; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto Ya know Leo...... IF YA DROVE YOUR SPRITE, your truck would be fine! Ahem. (Except for the dog bit. sorry to hear about that.) Peter C. -------------------------- At 12:16 PM 7/3/2008, Leo wrote: >Forgot to mention: next time it needs to be advertised at the next show >that the "hard luck essay" is to be submitted in writing...I should have won >it.. > >2 weeks before leaving one of our fur children hurts it's back and has to >have back surgery and now is recovering nicely..cost..YOU dont want to know >except that we are all in the wrong profession when it comes to time = $ >conversion > >1 1/2 weeks before leaving. Self inflicted damage to Iris's blue complexion >and painter had living hell making her repair totally undetectable and then >HE proceeded to damage other items which HE gets to replace and repair at no >charge (one NOS AMCO wind wing and a minor scuff on the hardtop) > >4 hours before leaving.. knock off beehive lens on back of car and it cracks >in half when it falls on the trailer floor so had to dig through parts stash >to find matching replacements > >Fort Smith AR..hammer fit pin decides to fall out of front caliper and I >have to wait overnight for auto parts store to open to replace a 99 cent >part. Meanwhile as I was trying to go up the screwed up entrance to the >hotel I chose to stay at the trailer tongue bottoms out in a dip at the >entrance and while attempting to dislodge it I jackknife the trailer and >dent the corner of the trailer > >Eureka Springs AR ...two inner tires on rear of truck decide to destruct and >all 4 rear tires get replaced. (originals only had around 45 k on them but >mountain roads played hell) > >Osage Beach MO...Injector pump goes south and has to be rebuilt > >All of the above is verifiable by recipets and significant reduction in bank >account balance > > >I want my damn award...ROFL...At least none of the above happened 500 miles >in the middle of nowhere so all is fine and life is great. Now Greenie is >good for another 100K... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1530 - Release Date: 7/2/2008 8:05 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.4/1530 - Release Date: 7/2/2008 8:05 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jul 3 21:43:38 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <002401c8dd85$6aba1cf0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <486CE13F.4030101@comcast.net> <002401c8dd85$6aba1cf0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <777532615.20080703204338@pacifier.com> Hello, What i don't get is what freaking difference does it make? I mean really----trying to match EXACTLY the color of paint in the trunk of a car (or under the tail light, [because GOD FORBID some light may have reached the trunk]. As soon as its painted it's gonna start fading AGAIN. So you have a window of what, 3 minutes to SAVOR that EXACT match. ... if another guy has one that was painted 2 years ago and it WAS PERFECT---NOW its NOT? because he let it see the SUN? .. big freaking deal.. ...... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 * "There it is again!" Tom recited. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Thu Jul 3 22:00:26 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:00:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <486CE13F.4030101@comcast.net> <002401c8dd85$6aba1cf0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <777532615.20080703204338@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2D5683CCFF7D4BCCBEBF33448D3F5A59@DBKF4T81> Hear hear ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" > What i don't get is what freaking difference does it make? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 22:37:56 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:37:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! Message-ID: <43840a7e0807032137h4d786fdas49daa9229ea6d823@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers.... Just heard from the Sprite - Midget Club USA webmaster Mike Rambour out in California... He has a very big fire less than a mile away and is now picking up things from his home where our server is located. There is a possibility we may loose our server/website, but even worse, Mike may loose his home. Please keep him in your thoughts.... I know Larry and Sandie Miller aren't too far from these fires also.... -- Cheers!! Jim From davriker at nwi.net Thu Jul 3 22:49:59 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:49:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day Message-ID: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> I'm sitting here reading about all the fun everyone had, and some stories of trials and travails on the long journey. I'm sorry I missed the event, but it just wasn't in the cards. To the point, last night, I was driving my Midget to a band rehersal, and right on my own street, I'm going less than 20 mph, the minivan in front of me stops in the middle of the road. I stop too, trying to figure out what this guy is up to. Then, he puts it in reverse, and rams my car! I am 800 miles away from my village. In my old home town, I had friends who owned body shops, friends who owned transmission shops, friends who owned Foriegn Car Parts Stores. I had to move to Washington for a new job, and I don't know anyone or anything here. The guy has good insurance, but the estimate is over 7000 dollars to fix the car. The front frame rails have never been straight since the LAST accident I had in it 10 years ago, so I am thinking of taking the money and parting out the car....I need the cash right now to pay bills. I'm by no means poor, just bad timing to get a big expensive house when your income comes from selling Trucks and SUV's for a living... Wife thinks it is time to give up the MG hobby, at least for now. I'm rambling, but what I really need now is going to be an oshit of my own. If the body shop at my dealership can straighten the frame rails enough to get the front end alignment back, the car just will need two fenders, a front valance, a new grill, some turn signals and headlight rings. I know I can deal with it, but my spirit is weak. I'm leaving for a family reunion at 7am. When I get back, I'll answer emails. I'm in Wenatchee, WA. I know there are some listers near Seattle, and some around Tri-Cities. The car is a 1974. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2143594160031700858dWqsgL http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2589487770031700858oLRQXw http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2196461880031700858LrPIsH http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2863328860031700858LPURcl http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2014252510031700858vrMIBO Please tell me it doesn't look that bad David Riker From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jul 3 22:59:17 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day In-Reply-To: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> References: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <1586564149.20080703215917@pacifier.com> Hello David, it DOESN't look that bad. .. $7000? i don't see it, but i guess it depends upon how bad the frame rails are bent. you CAN get new ones you know.. may be cheaper than trying to straighten the ones you have.... but his insurance should pay to get your car fixed. ? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 * "Can I hail you a taxi?" asked Tom dormantly. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 3 23:30:32 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ozark slide show Message-ID: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Here's the best I can throw together. I have rear shots of every car showing the license plates, but I'm not sure I should post that. http://tiny.cc/Kp5Cp Glen From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 3 23:39:45 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:39:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] There IS justice!!!! Message-ID: >From The Telegraph of London Speedgun King sacked as 500 motorists escape speeding fines A police camera operator nicknamed the "Speedgun King" has been sacked after his force found it had issued 500 tickets in error. The unnamed civilian had bragged about his high conviction rate to colleagues in the Lancashire Constabulary. But an investigation found the cameras he operated had sometimes been wrongly calibrated. This has resulted in the force having to withdraw 545 speeding convictions and rescind 1,500 penalty points. Nearly #36,000 in fines and payments for speed awareness courses has also had to be refunded. Lancashire Constabulary has now dismissed the camera operator in the aftermath of an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints Commission. Naseem Malik, IPCC Commissioner for the North West, said: "This speed camera technician failed to undertake basic checks of the systems he was operating and as a result he undermined the integrity of hundreds of prosecutions. "It would appear he was proud of his position as the top performing camera technician, but it would appear he pursued quantity at the expense of quality - and at the expense of hundreds of motorists. "I applaud the fact that Lancashire Constabulary tackled this issue vigorously and it is worth noting that during the investigation the work of every other camera technician was checked and found to be in order". The IPCC investigation found the technician's calibrations to be inaccurate on a number of occasions between September 2006 and May 2007. Motorists who have since had their convictions overturned had been driving either through Blackpool or the Penwortham area of Lancashire. A file was prepared for the Crown Prosecution Service but it said there was insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges. The sacked technician had been with the Lancashire Constabulary for two years. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 23:44:28 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Getting things fixed In-Reply-To: <839451.52948.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <343151.19179.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All good advice except for the bit about removing the grille. All you need is a 12 year old son to hold one side of the bolt after pretzeling his arm up through the hole behind the valance but in front of the radiator support wall and around the various braces and brackets while you loosen / tighten from the engine compartment. Of course, many 12 year olds never really understand exactly where they're supposed to hold it and sometimes don't quite grasp the concept of holding pressure on it so you can actually turn the other end, but they generally mean well when they are planning to take over the arduous task of driving the car in about 4 years... Oh nevermind, you're right - take the grille out. - David --- On Thu, 7/3/08, James Gruber wrote: From: James Gruber Subject: [Spridgets] Getting things fixed To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: "Spridgets Digest" Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 1:27 PM Ryan, Air leak will likely be around throttle shafts on carbs. A little carb cleaner sprayed on outide and around intake manifold will show you where there are air leaks when engine is running. Idle speed change will happen when leak is pinpointed. Keep that fire extinguisher handy just in case. Bumper irons/frame does go up at the ends. Designed that way. Take the bumper off, looks better without it on both Spridgets and BE's. They don't do anything anyway in terms of crash protection. Radiator 4 bolts gets it out. 2 of those bolts are absolute bastards to get to. Water pump replacement, unless leaking/making nasty noises I'd lead alone. Close clearances in getting radiator out, be careful you don't run fan int oradiator on removing. Some favor removing 4 fan bolts, can I even get them out of there? to increase clearance. Can't remeber if I can get out. Captive nuts on fan shroud are a PITA and ofter are loose. Be sure to tighten up/remove and replace with nuts you can put a wrench on. Once you figure out the tricks, radiator can go in and out in a few minutes. Toughest part is getting access to bolts. Removing the grille is a necessity. You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 00:59:14 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:59:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <002401c8dd85$6aba1cf0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: From: Dean Hedin: "Buster, Does Whimbledon white match your original OEW patch?" Nope. Beginning with spec analysis done at the shop, they (du Pont labs) mixed three different formulae until there was a match with the virgin paint. I was simply the ignorant beneficiary of a "challenge" to a lot of good people. The one thing I do know is that I could have never afforded the actual time and effort they put into meeting that "personal challenge"! Personally, I think Frank Clarici hit the nail on the head when he said, "Now let's get real, unless you park next to an old english white bugeye, new from the dealer and that never saw the sun, who's going to know the difference?" I guess that only those who want to play the concours game really care. Me, I always said I didn't want a concours car, just one that looked like mine was when I bought it. New. And believe me, a brand new off the assembly line Sprite could not win a concours competition. Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 01:17:03 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 00:17:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <2D5683CCFF7D4BCCBEBF33448D3F5A59@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: Pdxpete and Bill L wrote: "What i don't get is what freaking difference does it make?" Beats the snot outta me! I just wanted a car that *looked* like mine did when I bought it. New. I suspect only those with the money to throw into concours really care. Personally, I don't care if an owner paints it Martian green like the one with the big "key" turning around.l I like that idea. I wonder how he made it, and if it could be done easily. My grandson, to whom I introduced the Sprite last week, and who now covets it, would really go berserk if I had one of those! The most important thing about these cars is that owners ENJOY them, and they are kept on the road! Buster From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 05:43:11 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:43:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: References: <2D5683CCFF7D4BCCBEBF33448D3F5A59@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: But they are NOT for the road. They are to fix up, and hide away from the sun and rain, until the price of them SKYROCKETS! Then you will be rich, RICH I TELL YOU!!!! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:17 AM, B- Evans > > The most important thing about these cars is that owners ENJOY them, and > they are kept on the road! > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jul 4 06:14:19 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 05:14:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day References: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> <1586564149.20080703215917@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <005f01c8ddcf$7e3a5520$6600a8c0@dave> 2 fenders, 2 headlight rings, front valance complete, 2 turn signal assemblies, grill, and surround parts alone from moss at retail is over $3000. The rest is paint and labor. You're right it's not that bad, just that prices have gotten stupid. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "David Riker" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Day > Hello David, > > it DOESN't look that bad. .. > > $7000? i don't see it, but i guess it depends upon how bad the > frame rails are bent. you CAN get new ones you know.. may be > cheaper than trying to straighten the ones you have.... but his > insurance should pay to get your car fixed. ? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 > * "Can I hail you a taxi?" asked Tom dormantly. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jul 4 06:57:08 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:57:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Top 10 List Message-ID: <4322982F-5AAD-4253-8EA0-7F714A793023@phillymgclub.com> Well the Sprite is only 9, but still an MG tops the list http://www.askmen.com/cars/car_lists_200/225_car_list.html Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 4 06:58:45 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 12:58:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Doesn't that say a lot! :) ----Original Message Follows---- And believe me, a brand new off the assembly line Sprite could not win a concours competition. Buster From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 07:21:52 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:21:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day In-Reply-To: <005f01c8ddcf$7e3a5520$6600a8c0@dave> References: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> <1586564149.20080703215917@pacifier.com> <005f01c8ddcf$7e3a5520$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <486E23F0.3040304@comcast.net> David Riker wrote: > 2 fenders, 2 headlight rings, front valance complete, 2 turn signal > assemblies, grill, and surround parts alone from moss at retail is over > $3000. The rest is paint and labor. But you know many of us have those parts sitting around in our garages. I know that car can be fixed for around a $1000. And that is with buying good used parts at fair market prices. Grille slats are available to just replace the bent ones, new headlights and parking lamp lenses and I'm sure the valance can be fixed, it doesn't look that bad. But how willing are you to go through the troubles of fixing it yourself? To part it out would be a sin, that takes one more off the road, they don't make them anymore. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 4 07:35:26 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:35:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <777532615.20080703204338@pacifier.com> Message-ID: To each, his own, I guess. ----Original Message Follows---- Hello, What i don't get is what freaking difference does it make? I mean really----trying to match EXACTLY the color of paint in the trunk of a car (or under the tail light, [because GOD FORBID some light may have reached the trunk]. As soon as its painted it's gonna start fading AGAIN. So you have a window of what, 3 minutes to SAVOR that EXACT match. ... if another guy has one that was painted 2 years ago and it WAS PERFECT---NOW its NOT? because he let it see the SUN? .. big freaking deal.. ...... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jul 4 07:49:00 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:49:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] We made it home too! In-Reply-To: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20080703.143319.4384.4@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <02910936-7FCA-484B-B8B6-83D96A324AFF@phillymgclub.com> Mark, Where abouts in CO are you located?? MG 2009 is in Breckenridge and I will be there. I used to live in Greeley and have had my Midget up over Trail Ridge a few times. Larry On Jul 3, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Mark & Joanna wrote: > Greetings All, > Joanna, Jack and I made it home late Tuesday evening. We survived > the 106 deg > temperatures across Kansas without the air conditioning. > The Colorado Rockies have never felt so good. We had a wonderful > time in MO. > Thank you to every one who worked so hard to make this show a truly > stellar > memory. It was great to meet so many people whom I have only known > through the > Spridgets list. Truly our Sprite would not be the car it is without > all of the > help from the list members. Joanna also thanks Brad for sharing his > trunk bar > and fine music. If any of you are ever in the Colorado area please > look us up > ;-) We have Spridget roads as good as any you have ever driven. > Blessings to all our new (old) friends. > Mark, Joanna and Jack...woof! > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fabulous Spa Getaway! > Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/JKFkuJNzuPkpHNM4qPG3zS7KaJolqJ1ro > 5038i2O7yCLTpF16KOw00/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jul 4 08:14:10 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:14:10 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] There IS justice!!!! Message-ID: Bloody trog. :( CapBob From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jul 4 09:04:02 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:04:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day References: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave><1586564149.20080703215917@pacifier.com><005f01c8ddcf$7e3a5520$6600a8c0@dave> <486E23F0.3040304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004401c8dde7$31e58b50$6401a8c0@personal> Will be intresting to see what the insurance company will do. Let em give you 7 grand, buy it back for a few dollars and take the difference and repair it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Riker" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Day > David Riker wrote: >> 2 fenders, 2 headlight rings, front valance complete, 2 turn signal >> assemblies, grill, and surround parts alone from moss at retail is over >> $3000. The rest is paint and labor. > But you know many of us have those parts sitting around in our garages. > I know that car can be fixed for around a $1000. And that is with buying > good used parts at fair market prices. > Grille slats are available to just replace the bent ones, new headlights > and parking lamp lenses and I'm sure the valance can be fixed, it > doesn't look that bad. But how willing are you to go through the > troubles of fixing it yourself? > To part it out would be a sin, that takes one more off the road, they > don't make them anymore. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1533 - Release Date: 7/3/2008 7:19 PM From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 4 09:22:50 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 08:22:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! References: <43840a7e0807032137h4d786fdas49daa9229ea6d823@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02b501c8dde9$d2f1f590$4e947e4c@HP> Hi Jim Sandi and I are well north of the major fires. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" ; "bugeye" Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! > Spridgeteers.... > > Just heard from the Sprite - Midget Club USA webmaster Mike Rambour out in > California... He has a very big fire less than a mile away and is now > picking up things from his home where our server is located. There is a > possibility we may loose our server/website, but even worse, Mike may > loose > his home. Please keep him in your thoughts.... I know Larry and Sandie > Miller aren't too far from these fires also.... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 4 09:26:55 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:26:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day In-Reply-To: <004401c8dde7$31e58b50$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: That's what I did with my '76 B back in '79?. The insurance wrote it off, and I bought it back for 10% of the settlement. I scavenged parts and got it safetied and plated and was going to start on the cosmetic body work, but ... then this happened: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/Bea.htm If I had spent the money to have an appraisal done at the stage where the safety inspection was done, I would have been covered for 'something' when the tree hit. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jack Laird" Will be intresting to see what the insurance company will do. Let em give you 7 grand, buy it back for a few dollars and take the difference and repair it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Riker" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Day > David Riker wrote: >> 2 fenders, 2 headlight rings, front valance complete, 2 turn signal >> assemblies, grill, and surround parts alone from moss at retail is over >> $3000. The rest is paint and labor. > But you know many of us have those parts sitting around in our garages. > I know that car can be fixed for around a $1000. And that is with buying > good used parts at fair market prices. > Grille slats are available to just replace the bent ones, new headlights > and parking lamp lenses and I'm sure the valance can be fixed, it > doesn't look that bad. But how willing are you to go through the > troubles of fixing it yourself? > To part it out would be a sin, that takes one more off the road, they > don't make them anymore. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jul 4 09:49:22 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] There IS justice!!!! References: Message-ID: The local rumour mill has it that there'll be a few more of the office staff loosing jobs when the investigation into the rest of them who were suspended for pulling their friends tickets out of the system is completed. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "B- Evans" To: ; ; ; "George Tuttle" ; "ChrisKeilich" ; Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 6:39 AM Subject: [Spridgets] There IS justice!!!! > >From The Telegraph of London > > > Speedgun King sacked as 500 motorists escape speeding fines > > > A police camera operator nicknamed the "Speedgun King" has been sacked > after > his force found it had issued 500 tickets in error. > > > The unnamed civilian had bragged about his high conviction rate to > colleagues in the Lancashire Constabulary. > > But an investigation found the cameras he operated had sometimes been > wrongly calibrated. > > This has resulted in the force having to withdraw 545 speeding convictions > and rescind 1,500 penalty points. Nearly #36,000 in fines and payments for > speed awareness courses has also had to be refunded. > > Lancashire Constabulary has now dismissed the camera operator in the > aftermath of an investigation by the Independent Police Complaints > Commission. > > Naseem Malik, IPCC Commissioner for the North West, said: "This speed > camera > technician failed to undertake basic checks of the systems he was > operating > and as a result he undermined the integrity of hundreds of prosecutions. > > "It would appear he was proud of his position as the top performing camera > technician, but it would appear he pursued quantity at the expense of > quality - and at the expense of hundreds of motorists. > > "I applaud the fact that Lancashire Constabulary tackled this issue > vigorously and it is worth noting that during the investigation the work > of > every other camera technician was checked and found to be in order". > > The IPCC investigation found the technician's calibrations to be > inaccurate > on a number of occasions between September 2006 and May 2007. > > Motorists who have since had their convictions overturned had been driving > either through Blackpool or the Penwortham area of Lancashire. > > A file was prepared for the Crown Prosecution Service but it said there > was > insufficient evidence to bring criminal charges. > > The sacked technician had been with the Lancashire Constabulary for two > years. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From p.herder at cox.net Fri Jul 4 10:49:11 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:49:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! In-Reply-To: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> My wife has has a lot more "want" to work on her 66 Sprite now that we are back from LotO. She spent the morning taking off the oil pan, oil pump and associated plumbing and scrapping gaskets on the short block. My engine builder wants the engine in short block form. He will tear it down from there. While she was busy doing that, I decided to take the "bare" tub out and pressure wash the car and to clean out the tunnel. Here is what I found along with the dirt (now mud) and other bits and pieces... http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/SpriteRat.jpg It's body measures ~ 6" not including the tail! Paul 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 4 10:49:04 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 09:49:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update Message-ID: <02f801c8ddf5$de8dcc60$4e947e4c@HP> Broken exhaust camshaft. Clean break just aft of the 2nd #1 exhaust valve. Larry From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 10:49:48 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:49:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? Message-ID: <486DF23C.20016.80E8AB@dmg.bossig.com> Looking through the photo's I found in the trunk of 'The Best', I noticed that in two picture engine was was originally painted Red. Pictures of TheBeast show it was 'rescued' sans engine and many other bits.... It is a thick flange, 1275 engine, 12CCDAH, with a plate bolted where a mechanical fuel pump would be. It is now painted green... I know that AH did not paint their engines Red. Any suggestions as to its original vehicle ?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 10:51:13 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:51:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update In-Reply-To: <02f801c8ddf5$de8dcc60$4e947e4c@HP> References: <02f801c8ddf5$de8dcc60$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <486DF291.25674.8233B9@dmg.bossig.com> OUCH!!!! On 4 Jul 2008 at 9:49, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >> Broken exhaust camshaft. >> >> Clean break just aft of the 2nd #1 exhaust valve. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 4 11:05:01 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? In-Reply-To: <486DF23C.20016.80E8AB@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <753058.10190.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The (I assume it's original) 1275 in my '71 Midget is red. - David wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 11:49 AM Looking through the photo's I found in the trunk of 'The Best', I noticed that in two picture engine was was originally painted Red. Pictures of TheBeast show it was 'rescued' sans engine and many other bits.... It is a thick flange, 1275 engine, 12CCDAH, with a plate bolted where a mechanical fuel pump would be. It is now painted green... I know that AH did not paint their engines Red. Any suggestions as to its original vehicle ?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 4 11:14:29 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! In-Reply-To: <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> Message-ID: <003701c8ddf9$731b18d0$5003f204@spider> I found a mummified pack rat up under the dash of a 1960's Mercedes 190SL. He'd eaten a lot of the insulation off of the dash wiring which subsequently shorted out into a copper blob/ball. ...bill in oregon ======================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Herder Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:49 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! . . . While she was busy doing that, I decided to take the "bare" tub out and pressure wash the car and to clean out the tunnel. Here is what I found along with the dirt (now mud) and other bits and pieces... http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/SpriteRat.jpg It's body measures ~ 6" not including the tail! Paul 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS _______________________________________________ From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 11:14:45 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:14:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? In-Reply-To: <753058.10190.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <486DF23C.20016.80E8AB@dmg.bossig.com>, <753058.10190.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486DF815.16811.97C0FF@dmg.bossig.com> David, Thanks... I did not know that. I'm not worried if it is not an AH engine, just wanted an idea of where it came from.. Dave G. On 4 Jul 2008 at 10:05, David Booker wrote: >> The (I assume it's original) 1275 in my '71 Midget is red. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 11:15:52 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:15:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Happy July 4th Message-ID: <486DF858.12879.98C65A@dmg.bossig.com> I wish all listers a Happy and Safe July $th... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 4 11:27:27 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:27:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update References: <02f801c8ddf5$de8dcc60$4e947e4c@HP> <486DF291.25674.8233B9@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <035801c8ddfb$3bcc6580$4e947e4c@HP> Could have been worse. At least I have a spare. Got the broken cam out and had hopes of putting the spare one in the same way so that the belt lined up the same. Could not do it so the radiator and oil cooler will have to go plus the lower belt cover and maybe the motor mounts. Don't think the engine has to come out. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Spridget" ; "Bugeye" Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update > OUCH!!!! > > On 4 Jul 2008 at 9:49, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >>> Broken exhaust camshaft. >>> >>> Clean break just aft of the 2nd #1 exhaust valve. > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." > Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 11:52:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:52:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day In-Reply-To: <486E23F0.3040304@comcast.net> References: <030801c8dd91$6a2141e0$6600a8c0@dave> <1586564149.20080703215917@pacifier.com> <005f01c8ddcf$7e3a5520$6600a8c0@dave> <486E23F0.3040304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807041052j7bd57814v3ad04c2bd1f26263@mail.gmail.com> There's a 72 in a salvage yard here in town which, if memory serves me, has all those parts in decent shape on it. If you want, I'll check with the salvage guy and see what I can get them for. You get the frame rails straight and we'll find the parts. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Spridget in Dodge City On 7/4/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > David Riker wrote: > > 2 fenders, 2 headlight rings, front valance complete, 2 turn signal > > assemblies, grill, and surround parts alone from moss at retail is over > > $3000. The rest is paint and labor. > > But you know many of us have those parts sitting around in our garages. > I know that car can be fixed for around a $1000. And that is with buying > good used parts at fair market prices. > Grille slats are available to just replace the bent ones, new headlights > and parking lamp lenses and I'm sure the valance can be fixed, it > doesn't look that bad. But how willing are you to go through the > troubles of fixing it yourself? > To part it out would be a sin, that takes one more off the road, they > don't make them anymore. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jul 4 12:36:39 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:36:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! In-Reply-To: <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> Message-ID: I've heard of getting the bugs out of a car but never the rats! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Paul Herder wrote: > > Here is what I found along with the dirt (now mud) and other bits and > pieces... > > http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/SpriteRat.jpg > > It's body measures ~ 6" not including the tail! > > Paul > 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS > _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 12:43:28 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 11:43:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brad Fornal wrote: "But they are NOT for the road. They are to fix up, and hide away from the sun and rain, until the price of them SKYROCKETS! Then you will be rich, RICH I TELL YOU!!!!" Damn! When you forget to follow the wonderful example of Frank Clarici who keeps his hidden away from sight on a trailer in their plastic cocoon until concours judging day, you can get carried away by the joy and exuberance of driving down the road with the wind in your hair and bugs on your teeth! I apologize. Buster From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Fri Jul 4 12:56:30 2008 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day Message-ID: <17681776.1215197790766.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> I'm sorry to see this David, but you must resist the urge to part out that beauty. I like her smooth looks. John Fogelsville, PA From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 13:47:59 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 12:47:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Top 10 List In-Reply-To: <4322982F-5AAD-4253-8EA0-7F714A793023@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: Larry Macy wrote: "Well the Sprite is only 9, but still an MG tops the list" When you look at the author's criteria of, " This is about each cars combined influence, character, success, and lasting popularity among enthusiasts, I believe anyone would see how ridiculous the list is. --How could a contemporary Bentley Continental GT be considered to have lasting popularity when it is a new bloody car!? --What influence or popularity could a Rolls Silver Cloud II when ownership is so sharply limited according to ones # or $? --Land Rover? The author threw in all of them from 1948 to 1985, Series I, II, and III, as a GENERIC car, but only selected models of other marques. I still maintain that the Bugeye Sprite was perhaps the most influential car, because it introduced the common man of American to sports cars, thereby changing American driving habits. Previous to the Sprite, sports cars were actually out of the price range of the working man. The earlier MGs and the first T-Birds were simply too pricey. And the MG-TCs the author claims to have been brought home after WWII, were brought home by officers, a distinct class above Bill Mauldins Willie and Joe. Leonard Lord and Donald Healeys intention of introducing America to an affordable sportscar paid off, with the Sprite coming in at $1,795, fully a third less than the MGs and TRs. Further, its unique appearance made it easily recognizable and differentiated from the more tradition shapes of the MG and TR. I doubt that without the Sprite there would not have been a Mustang. Why even a poor enlisted sailor could afford to buy one of those cute little bug-eyed cars the girls so loved! Gee, there is a history professor down at UC Irvine whose field is the history of the automobile. I should see him about having someone do a dissertation on the unique contribution of the Sprite. Buster From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 14:01:00 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:01:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] FW: hOME @ loto Message-ID: Or two of??? Like aluminium alloy distributor pedestals. In a message dated 04/07/2008 04:41:32 GMT Daylight Time, 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes: Some billet, nice machine made one off parts, From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 4 14:04:40 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:04:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! In-Reply-To: <02b501c8dde9$d2f1f590$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: Reg and Sue Kennedy, who many of you on the East Coast know, just arrived for their final American stop before returning to England. They had planned to drive up the coast to San Francisco on Monday, but obviously they will have to do some re-routing and miss the great beauty of the Big Sur area. However, since it is the Fourth of July, I hope to take them to Disneyland and parade them, frog-marching around as my despicable English prisoners who as representatives of King George III, came her to deprive us of our natural rights and liberties as English citizens. I think Disney should pay me big for such a spectacle! Tomorrow is Reg's birthday, so I gotta think of something special. Buster From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 14:08:20 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:08:20 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day Message-ID: Hi David, That's looks like a really nice car. Seven thousands dollars does buy a lot of nice work and it'd be a great loss to the Spridget world not to spend the insurance money getting the car straight. Say hi to Bill Gilroy just outside Seattle, if you see him. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 04/07/2008 05:50:51 GMT Daylight Time, davriker at nwi.net writes: I'm sitting here reading about all the fun everyone had, and some stories of trials and travails on the long journey. I'm sorry I missed the event, but it just wasn't in the cards. To the point, last night, I was driving my Midget to a band rehersal, and right on my own street, I'm going less than 20 mph, the minivan in front of me stops in the middle of the road. I stop too, trying to figure out what this guy is up to. Then, he puts it in reverse, and rams my car! I am 800 miles away from my village. In my old home town, I had friends who owned body shops, friends who owned transmission shops, friends who owned Foriegn Car Parts Stores. I had to move to Washington for a new job, and I don't know anyone or anything here. The guy has good insurance, but the estimate is over 7000 dollars to fix the car. The front frame rails have never been straight since the LAST accident I had in it 10 years ago, so I am thinking of taking the money and parting out the car....I need the cash right now to pay bills. I'm by no means poor, just bad timing to get a big expensive house when your income comes from selling Trucks and SUV's for a living... Wife thinks it is time to give up the MG hobby, at least for now. I'm rambling, but what I really need now is going to be an oshit of my own. If the body shop at my dealership can straighten the frame rails enough to get the front end alignment back, the car just will need two fenders, a front valance, a new grill, some turn signals and headlight rings. I know I can deal with it, but my spirit is weak. From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jul 4 14:11:32 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:11:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: There IS justice!!!! Message-ID: "stop light" cameras. Going up at selected intersections in NYC even as we speak. CapBob From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 14:12:56 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:12:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Original paint Message-ID: Maybe in a couple of years my Sprite will all be the same colour red? I've gotten it down from 3 shades of red to two. I just the bonnet and front panel painting the same red as the rest of the car which isn't the original red it should be but I don't mind because I can't afford too. 'Course I want an aluminium bonnet so it might be more than a couple of years. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 04/07/2008 12:43:49 GMT Daylight Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: But they are NOT for the road. They are to fix up, and hide away from the sun and rain, until the price of them SKYROCKETS! Then you will be rich, RICH I TELL YOU!!!! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:17 AM, B- Evans > > The most important thing about these cars is that owners ENJOY them, and > they are kept on the road! > > > > Buster From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 14:15:07 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:15:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day Message-ID: Especially a round wheel arch car. In a message dated 04/07/2008 14:21:19 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: To part it out would be a sin, From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 14:15:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:15:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: There IS justice!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E227B.16352.13D6089@dmg.bossig.com> Probably right where my sister lives... Ooops... If she reaads this I'm a dead man!! On 4 Jul 2008 at 20:11, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: >> "stop light" cameras. >> >> Going up at selected intersections in NYC >> even as we speak. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 14:20:06 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 16:20:06 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? Message-ID: I'd like to see the photos because the engine number doesn't match the description. Of course, or so I've heard, it's a simple matter to fit a later engine while retaining the identity of an earlier, (eg original) engine. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 04/07/2008 17:50:42 GMT Daylight Time, dmg at bossig.com writes: Looking through the photo's I found in the trunk of 'The Best', I noticed that in two picture engine was was originally painted Red. Pictures of TheBeast show it was 'rescued' sans engine and many other bits.... It is a thick flange, 1275 engine, 12CCDAH, with a plate bolted where a mechanical fuel pump would be. It is now painted green... I know that AH did not paint their engines Red. Any suggestions as to its original vehicle ?? From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Jul 4 14:29:24 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:29:24 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Original paint Message-ID: Sand it, and spray lightly with Rustoleum or Krylon semi-gloss black in the meantime, Daniel. Looks "properly" like a project in progress! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Jul 4 14:35:55 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:35:55 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day Message-ID: I am told with the new hydraulic rigs they can "straighen" anything, actually BETTER than factory. But I am not in the biz. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Jul 4 14:52:39 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:52:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What year car was it? There is a '79 on Craigslist in Seattle for $750 that you may look at? Bill > From: pilotrob at webtv.net > To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; davriker at nwi.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:35:55 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Day > > I am told with the new hydraulic rigs they can "straighen" anything, actually BETTER than factory. But I am not in the biz. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 4 14:59:33 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:59:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E2CC5.5061.1658E1E@dmg.bossig.com> W E S L A K E 1330, Several points... 1) The Beast is a "Bitza".... Bits o' this and Bits o' that !! e.g. the hood has been identified as post-1971 2) The Engine number doesn't match any Spridget series and it's stamped into the block and *not* pinned label. in fact - *all* the numbers appear to be fake!! But it's mine and it's almost road worthy.... 3) The photo's I found are 'old style' 35mm color prints... I'd have to get a scanner to copy them to a computer to show you -- and I don't have a scanner ;%(( Sorry 'bout that... Dave G. On 4 Jul 2008 at 16:20, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >> I'd like to see the photos because the engine number doesn't match the >> description. Of course, or so I've heard, it's a simple matter to fit >> a later engine while retaining the identity of an earlier, (eg >> original) engine. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 16:02:29 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 18:02:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486E9DF5.4070000@comcast.net> B- Evans wrote: > > Tomorrow is Reg's birthday, so I gotta think of something special. > > > Tell Reg that Diane and I said Happy Birthday to the ole lyme SOB ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jul 4 16:04:27 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:04:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIRE! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47264E99-8A82-4206-A87F-483A32453E93@phillymgclub.com> Well I do hope all are safe and sound in the fire areas. Glad to hear that they made it to your place safe and sound. If you have a dog, Reg will terrorize it ;-) Tell him Happy B-Day from Larry and Theresa as well. Larry On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:04 PM, B- Evans wrote: > Reg and Sue Kennedy, who many of you on the East Coast know, just > arrived > for their final American stop before returning to England. They had > planned to drive up the coast to San Francisco on Monday, but > obviously they > will have to do some re-routing and miss the great beauty of the Big > Sur > area. > > > > However, since it is the Fourth of July, I hope to take them to > Disneyland > and parade them, frog-marching around as my despicable English > prisoners who > as representatives of King George III, came her to deprive us of our > natural > rights and liberties as English citizens. I think Disney should > pay me big > for such a spectacle! > > > > Tomorrow is Reg's birthday, so I gotta think of something special. > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jul 4 16:06:46 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Reg Kennedy's B-Day In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <390ECFE5-07EC-4011-8336-B43834B59A86@phillymgclub.com> BTW, Reg is quite familiar with being grabbed by the colonials, he was arrested a couple years ago at the Philly MG Club Holiday brunch at the General Lafayette Inn in Philly ;-) I expect Disney will pay well ;-) Larry On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:04 PM, B- Evans wrote: > Reg and Sue Kennedy, who many of you on the East Coast know, just > arrived > for their final American stop before returning to England. They had > planned to drive up the coast to San Francisco on Monday, but > obviously they > will have to do some re-routing and miss the great beauty of the Big > Sur > area. > > > > However, since it is the Fourth of July, I hope to take them to > Disneyland > and parade them, frog-marching around as my despicable English > prisoners who > as representatives of King George III, came her to deprive us of our > natural > rights and liberties as English citizens. I think Disney should > pay me big > for such a spectacle! > > > > Tomorrow is Reg's birthday, so I gotta think of something special. > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 4 16:15:34 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:15:34 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? Message-ID: It sounds like a 12V casting. Now if you had a 12CE engine tag I might trade a 12V engine tag..... In a message dated 04/07/2008 22:00:36 GMT Daylight Time, dmg at bossig.com writes: 2) The Engine number doesn't match From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Jul 4 16:42:33 2008 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 15:42:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More 50th photos Message-ID: <42212D7B-04A9-415A-A665-52C87659170D@gerardsgarage.com> Enjoy! ~g http://www.team.net/the-local/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=32 From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 4 17:30:49 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:30:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It In-Reply-To: <11880a2a3c0a3eb00a18700a.20080702183432.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> References: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP> <00f801c8dca9$5b406630$6501a8c0@shop> <11880a2a3c0a3eb00a18700a.20080702183432.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <298083DC-B0A3-497C-8590-BB066FB0E62A@mac.com> Mike, Are you smuggling people :)))) Bob Kitterer On Jul 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > pulling the > trailer and 4 people inside From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jul 4 18:04:00 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] We Made It In-Reply-To: <298083DC-B0A3-497C-8590-BB066FB0E62A@mac.com> References: <008301c8dc99$9c556bd0$4e947e4c@HP><00f801c8dca9$5b406630$6501a8c0@shop><11880a2a3c0a3eb00a18700a.20080702183432.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> <298083DC-B0A3-497C-8590-BB066FB0E62A@mac.com> Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20080704170400.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> Yes, but that's the last load, I swear! Mike Kitterer Bob > Mike, > > Are you smuggling people :)))) > > Bob Kitterer > > On Jul 2, 2008, at 6:34 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > >> pulling the >> trailer and 4 people inside > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 4 20:59:25 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 22:59:25 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? Message-ID: <17151337.1215226765394.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This isn't April Fools Day is it? I thought that it was the 4th of July. It is red because a previous owner painted it red. No brainer . . . Next question. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com >Sent: Jul 4, 2008 6:15 PM >To: dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Red Engine - Where from ??? > >It sounds like a 12V casting. Now if you had a 12CE engine tag I might trade >a 12V engine tag..... > >In a message dated 04/07/2008 22:00:36 GMT Daylight Time, dmg at bossig.com >writes: > >2) The Engine number doesn't match >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 21:13:49 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:13:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: Message-ID: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Whimbledon White does not match my original patch of OEW either. I would say my patch has a little more "tan" in it compared to Whimbledon White. Maybe at some point Buster, we can hook up and compare patches (not to mention paint jobs) In any case, I think the Rustoleum Antique White is an extremely close match and is food for thought for someone looking for a DIY paint alternative. It's easy to shoot for a beginner, and it's very forgiving. Wet sands & buffs out easy. In addition, it will be readily availible at the local home improvement center in quarts and rattle cans for a long time. ----- Original Message ----- From: B- Evans From: Dean Hedin: "Buster, Does Whimbledon white match your original OEW patch?" Nope. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 21:22:47 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Video - Austin Healey Sprite Silverstone Test References: <42212D7B-04A9-415A-A665-52C87659170D@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <003801c8de4e$65ac86c0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Great video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe94HcpHyGU Sorry if this has been posted previoulsy.. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jul 4 21:22:55 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:22:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] rust throughout cooling system advice? Message-ID: <070520080322.15594.486EE90F000D919300003CEA22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> I removed the radiator from my 74 midget after determining that its clogged to the point of needing to get it recored. But waht i see now is that there is rust pieces in the thermostat hole in the engine and the heater unit also seems rust filled as does the heater return pipe. I am concerned about getting the radiator recored and then 6 months later having it reclogged. my plan so far is to still have the radiator recored and have the heater unit sonnicated and flushed, and replacing the copper heater return pipe either from victoria british or by using copper pipe. How do i get the rust out/ clean the engine block? What would you do? any other suggestions or things to pay attention to? Although i don't want to I know I can just remove the heater entirely but living in eastern PA a heater helps. ryan From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 00:04:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:04:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rust throughout cooling system advice? In-Reply-To: <070520080322.15594.486EE90F000D919300003CEA22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> References: <070520080322.15594.486EE90F000D919300003CEA22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> Message-ID: <455329961.20080704230453@pacifier.com> Hello ryan, Prestone USED to make radiator/engine flush kits that you cut into the heater hose, and hooked a garden hose onto. .. run the engine, turn on the hose and the water came out of a spout you put into the radiator... i don't know if they still make 'em or not, but after 5 minutes or so, it would be all flushed CLEAN. Remove the spout from the radiator and the hose from the connection, pour coolant into the radiator and it would displace water out of the hose connection...... cap everything off and DONE... Other than that, a RELIABLE radiator shop should be able to flush the system, after the recore -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 * "This is a picture of my new house," said Tom, visibly moved. From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jul 5 05:52:37 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:52:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms Message-ID: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> I need an A Arm. Hopefully with good lower fulcrum bushings. Alternatively who sells the fulcrum bushing that I can braze in? Or who rebuilds these? Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 06:58:22 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:58:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] rust throughout cooling system advice? Message-ID: <070520081258.8261.486F6FEE000B211B000020452215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> I have been having cooling issues for a while. In march or April i and some OSHITer's flushed out a blockage at the rear of the engine block but I have still been having isssues, the heat tranfer difference between the top (in from the engine) and bottom (out to the engine) showed very little to know temp difference. And for concrete proof when i pulled the radiator, heater core, heater return pipe, and thermostat housing all 4 had some level of rust deposits. I just don't want to recore the radiator and have it get blocked again. Also with all of this should I replace the water pump while I am at it? -------------- Original message -------------- From: Waynesillychevy at aol.com how do you know its clooged ? whats your readings on the gauge did you open cap while car is running to see if water/antifreezing is moving Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 5 07:26:29 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 09:26:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - More News From David Tetlow - Visit From UK Message-ID: In case you are interested  ________________________________________ Sent: July 5, 2008 7:15 AM Subject: Fw: OMGC - More News From David Tetlow - Visit From UK Hello OMGC Folks, There have been a few more updates from David & Teresa about their adventure from the UK, to MG2008, to Niagara Falls and then on to Ottawa to get married. David has been sending trip updates and pictures to me and I have put the notes and pics onto the OMGC web site. You can go to www.omgc.info to see the latest news. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 09:01:04 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 08:01:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics Message-ID: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, During the Funkana, i climbed up the hill behind and took pictures which i have now stitched together to form a panoramic of all the cars in the parking lot and the course below. .. of course no attatchments are allowed here and i have no idea where to POST such a picture (someone tell me a free sight for pic posting i'll start putting pics up!).. so anyone who wants a copy of this AND,, i did the same thing at the airport to get all the cars .. I also jumped up in the back of Tony's truck and made an AVI movie panoramic.. .. anyone who wants them .. email me, an i'll send them off.. make sure you have broadband or LOTS of time as these files are, as you can imagine .. HUGE..... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 Keyboard not found, think "F10" to continue. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 5 09:48:10 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:48:10 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] rust throughout cooling system advice? Message-ID: Pick up a cooling system flush kit from your friendly neighborhood parts store. Flush and reverse flush til the system is clean. Renew all hoses if necessary and install 68C/165F+- stat. Go to www.speedwellengineering.com and pick up an alum. radiator with puller elect. fan. Pull present radiator and mechanical fan. Install alum rad and elec. fan. Fill cooling system with 80% distilled water and 20% proprietary anti-freeze. Turn the key and drive away, never/ever to be bothered by cooling problems ever again! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 10:08:29 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:08:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807050908t39c4ff00r5b3fbb170fde299f@mail.gmail.com> That guy in Ohio. Archives! From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sat Jul 5 10:22:25 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:22:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts Message-ID: <1A00BD88-2873-4F12-99F7-C0F494D3DF97@dartmouth.edu> Hi, Slowly making progress on getting my '79 road ready. One of the remaining tasks is to replace the bodged seat belts that came with it. I would like o put in 3-point shoulder belts if possible - 2-point if not. There is a mount point for the reel behind the seat, then a left and a right mount point - nothing for the retainer that is usually on 3- point seats. Where would this fourth (guide) mount? I see nothing on the seat to speak of. I plan on eventually (maybe sooner than later) adding a rollbar, and could mount the guide to that. Next, any recommendations for a good source for belts (besides Moss and VB) - price not so much an issue as I want them to just work - quality is important here. Inertia reel optional - I would sacrifice that for a quality setup. thanks, -m From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 11:04:25 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:04:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts In-Reply-To: <1A00BD88-2873-4F12-99F7-C0F494D3DF97@dartmouth.edu> References: <1A00BD88-2873-4F12-99F7-C0F494D3DF97@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807051004p2fdf121ai75f1928095455396@mail.gmail.com> Belt goes from top mount (reel, over shoulder) to lower mount on same side. There is a short receptacle on the opposite (trans tunnel) side. I don't think there is a 4th point. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 11:06:21 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:06:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910807051004p2fdf121ai75f1928095455396@mail.gmail.com> References: <1A00BD88-2873-4F12-99F7-C0F494D3DF97@dartmouth.edu> <5f00d9910807051004p2fdf121ai75f1928095455396@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807051006o72417d80n57dc6db9930951cb@mail.gmail.com> Here's a page with pics: http://www.wescoperformance.com/welr-n-retractable-install.html From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 11:31:31 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:31:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] From Reg... In-Reply-To: <390ECFE5-07EC-4011-8336-B43834B59A86@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: Larry, Kevin and Frank. Hey you bunch of buggers, walked into a hornets nest when we arrived here in LA. What have you been telling this nice quiet unassuming conservative sheepish Californian gentleman about me?????? Sounds like he is now just waiting for the right opportunity to tar and feather me. Great seeing you guys over in Pa. Look forward to our next trip. Keep in touch Reg. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 5 11:52:07 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 13:52:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts Message-ID: Is this what makes them 3-point seatbelts? In a message dated 05/07/2008 18:04:37 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: I don't think there is a 4th point. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 11:54:21 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 13:54:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] From Reg... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486FB54D.9010205@comcast.net> B- Evans wrote: > Larry, Kevin and Frank. > > > > Hey you bunch of buggers, walked into a hornets nest when we arrived here in > LA. What have you been telling this nice quiet unassuming conservative > sheepish Californian gentleman about me?????? Sounds like he is now just > waiting for the right opportunity to tar and feather me. Great seeing you > guys over in Pa. Look forward to our next trip. Keep in touch Reg. > Hey Reggie, I thought you were at Buster's? What nice quiet unassuming conservative sheepish Californian's house are you at? We all know Buster is just a wee bit opinionated, politically minded, voices his opinion at the drop of a hat, and is certainly not quiet. In fact, he is an ornery old coot but we love him anyway. Safe trip back across the pond. I hope Sue enjoyed the States. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Jul 5 11:57:41 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:57:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> OK, OK I can not stand it any longer. The Concours colors are a compromise and they are a compromise because there was no color control to speak of at the factory when out cars were built. SO what ever "original" color you find hidden away on your car is what came out of the factory that day plus age. In 1960 I happen to be at a importers where there was a brand new white Jag Saloon park at the curb. There were no two panels on the car the same shade of white. The dealer said the car had just arrived from the factory and because the cars were in such high demand they would send it up the street to Chevy dealer to be repainted. The car had been assembled from remaining parts from previous days production and each panel had been painted at different times, with in weeks of each other. What ever "original" color you find on your car and then carefully match can easily be different from some one else's car of the "same" color. I have been very careful to have the Nevada Beige paint for my car spectrally matched, then test panels painted prior to removing any paint from the car. Not for Concours but just because I like the color that came out of the factory that day. The only other Nevada Beige cars that I have seen that match mine were painted with the same paint and formula which I provided to the owners but it does not make the other Nevada Beige cars wrong, just different. Next subject please. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 4, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Whimbledon White does not match my original patch > of OEW either. > > I would say my patch has a little more "tan" in it compared to > Whimbledon White. > > Maybe at some point Buster, we can hook up and compare > patches (not to mention paint jobs) > > In any case, I think the Rustoleum Antique White is an extremely close > match and is food for thought for someone looking for a DIY paint > alternative. It's easy to shoot for a beginner, and it's very > forgiving. > Wet sands & buffs out easy. In addition, it will be readily > availible at > the local home improvement center in quarts and rattle cans > for a long time. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: B- Evans > > From: Dean Hedin: "Buster, Does Whimbledon white match your > original OEW > patch?" > > Nope. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 11:57:54 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:57:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... buying a 58 bugeye (questions) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20E671FC-E01D-4094-8498-988322B3E8F2@comcast.net> From my limited experience.. Am going to buy my friends 58 that has been stored for 15 years : 1. what structural rust is common? Rockers, base of A pillar, floor in foot wells 2. are engine/mechanical parts available? Yup, not too expensive and there are lots of go fast parts, how much ya wanna spend? ;-) 3. what are the main problem areas to look out for? Rust, depending on your metal working skills. Everything else depending on your pocketbook. 4. is there an aftermarket supply for these? Worldwide, 2 big suppliers in US alone. 5. what parts are especially hard to come by.. Original ones. There are lots of Repro bits, most of the ones on eBay are repros. 6. are the carbs an issue? Not really, they take some time to learn but if your fuel system is clean they run fora very long time. 7. is it 'fun' to drive? OH YESSSSS!! (Depending upon ambient air temp and proximity to semi's) 8. whats a resonable price for a restorer in decent shape (has title with extra parts car... $ 500 t0 $ 3000 depending.. 9. do they have any 'value when done? Yup, exactly $ 1000 less than you have put into them if you do your own labor, if you pay others then expect to loose closer to $ 7000. ($ 16k for a fully restored one is at the high end) 10. how many were made in 58,59,60 Enough so that you can fine 'em in barns in Ohio! 11. the bugeyes are more desirable than 61 and on? i assume? Blondes vs Brunettes, Big honkin' hoot... uh.. nevermind.. totally subjective. Lester .. the relative noob here. THANKS GUYS...RAY IN NE OHIO From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Jul 5 12:10:31 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rust throughout cooling system advice? In-Reply-To: <070520080322.15594.486EE90F000D919300003CEA22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> References: <070520080322.15594.486EE90F000D919300003CEA22165384969B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> Message-ID: <420D5DCA-A951-41FA-AE02-286FF0CA8E6E@mac.com> Before removing the radiator try using a cooling system flush. There use to be several available at Pep Boys etc. You add them to the radiator, then run the car, with the heater on, for 10 minutes or so. With the engine running open the drain on the bottom of the radiator, put a garden hose in the top and wait until the water is clear. Turn the engine off, let the cooling system drain, then refill with distilled water, unless you are fortunate to have very good water coming out of the faucet. Not the case here in SoCa. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 4, 2008, at 8:22 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > I removed the radiator from my 74 midget after determining that its > clogged to the point of needing to get it recored. But waht i see > now is that there is rust pieces in the thermostat hole in the > engine and the heater unit also seems rust filled as does the > heater return pipe. > > I am concerned about getting the radiator recored and then 6 months > later having it reclogged. > > my plan so far is to still have the radiator recored and have the > heater unit sonnicated and flushed, and replacing the copper heater > return pipe either from victoria british or by using copper pipe. > > How do i get the rust out/ clean the engine block? > > What would you do? any other suggestions or things to pay attention > to? > > Although i don't want to I know I can just remove the heater > entirely but living in eastern PA a heater helps. > ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 12:16:15 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:16:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> References: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <188182711.20080705111615@pacifier.com> Hello Kitterer, and THAT cover it. two cars painted on different days, two different colors, three cars, three different... Make YOURSELF happy, and pay no attention to the nattering nabobs! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 Fish and guests smell in three days. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 12:16:53 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:16:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910807051116j170f4931n6612d7caaa19b4d5@mail.gmail.com> I think sometimes there is a 4th point for a guide but not a 4th attachment point. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:52 AM, wrote: > Is this what makes them 3-point seatbelts? > > > I don't think there is a 4th point. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 5 12:34:46 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:34:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> Message-ID: Why not just paint the damn thing white or green or red and go for a drive? From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Jul 5 12:34:48 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:34:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bilstein shock conversion Message-ID: <1397298B-2C24-47BF-8139-D9492281F855@mac.com> Hi Folks, At Conclave Putzke's "Fahrspass" released his Bilstien front and rear shock conversion for Bugeye's. He has been making conversions for big Healeys for several years and the reports that I have heard are very good. I will be getting his conversion shortly and will be able to tell you more then, also if it will work on later model cars. At least for the big Healeys the conversion uses existing mounting points so there are no modifications to the car. Also the shocks are specially made for the car, that is you can not go to a Bilstien out let and pick up a set of shocks. Udo Putzke is a Bilstien engineer and a local club member who does flawless work. Right now the conversion kit introduction pice is about $600 but will go up soon. Stay tuned. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sat Jul 5 12:36:51 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:36:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 3-point seatbelts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9298C646-9ED7-43A8-9DDA-32293DA53FAE@Dartmouth.EDU> Yeah there are three belt attachment end-points. The fourth point I was referring to is the guide - seems from the pictures of belts on the Moss motors site there is a belt guide of some sort. I have decided to go with a non-retractable harness from westco performance. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions! -m On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > Is this what makes them 3-point seatbelts? > > In a message dated 05/07/2008 18:04:37 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com > writes: > I don't think there is a 4th point. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 5 12:37:57 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 11:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... buying a 58 bugeye (questions) In-Reply-To: <20E671FC-E01D-4094-8498-988322B3E8F2@comcast.net> Message-ID: > 4. is there an aftermarket supply for these? > > Worldwide, 2 big suppliers in US alone. Yeah, well......a lot of the body panel from Moss require lots of skill and fiddling. The rest are unusable, even with fiddling. Let's be honest. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 5 12:51:32 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 11:51:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... buying a 58 bugeye(questions) In-Reply-To: <20E671FC-E01D-4094-8498-988322B3E8F2@comcast.net> References: <20E671FC-E01D-4094-8498-988322B3E8F2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005901c8ded0$25cc02b0$9603f204@spider> Rebuild the brake system. ...bill in oregon ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:58 AM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; spriteMidget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... buying a 58 bugeye(questions) From my limited experience.. Am going to buy my friends 58 that has been stored for 15 years : From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 13:07:12 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:07:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. Message-ID: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Final mileage 38.6 mpg mileage TO was 40.5...Then Glen Burns tuned my carbs, and the car ran much BETTER ..Guessing i was a tad lean from the final figures, OR it costs more to run AGAINST the wind.. also wasn't so careful about avoiding gasoHOL as i was Going.. 4544.8 miles travelled 119.02 gallons $502.70 When I first started planning the trip a year and a half ago i figured $4.00/gallon . 30 MPG.... $533 for gas.. and if i changed to a 3.9 rear instead of the 4.22 i could save 7%, making the fuel cost come to $500....not to bad off my final cost! and i now CLAIM the RECORD (DOCUMENTED! and WITNESSED) for the 21st CENTURY of 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 All programers are optimists. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 5 13:11:31 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:11:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > and i now CLAIM the RECORD (DOCUMENTED! and WITNESSED) for the 21st > CENTURY of > 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY! So what are you using that accurately measures .05 mile? From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 5 13:15:47 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:15:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <486F65F3.2590.119DB07@dmg.bossig.com> You're crazy... Do you hear me?? .... You're CRAZY!!! On 5 Jul 2008 at 12:07, Bill L wrote: >> 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 13:54:08 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:54:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for bugeye project -- Message-ID: <28f529ba0807051254i367416fh46bd1a59bb5079b6@mail.gmail.com> I can't afford shipping, but am looking for a cheaper project car to work on here in arizona. While I'd love a bugeye, as a backup, a midget/sprite (or mga/spitfire) would be fine as well if I can't locate a bugeye. Prefer relatively complete mechanically, with no huge engine/tranny/rearend problems, though it needn't be running. Preferably no custom body work, etc... and title preferred. Thanks, Mike From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 5 13:56:10 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:56:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486F65F3.2590.119DB07@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: > On 5 Jul 2008 at 12:07, Bill L wrote: >>> 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY! > You're crazy... Do you hear me?? .... You're CRAZY!!! > Dave G. Especially since that averages out over 53mph for 24 hours straight... From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 15:01:30 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:01:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486F65F3.2590.119DB07@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <605838906.20080705140130@pacifier.com> Hello David, the drive was from Gilette Wyoming to Kelso Washington. Using the odometer which as a demonstrated and documented error of 15%. That includes the stops on and off the freeway for fuel. the actual Google Maps mileage was 1169, but that doesn't cover the detour we had to make in Seattle at about 1:00 am... we started driving at about 6:10 am on Tuesday and arrived at the door at 3:40 am Wendsday .. driving around 62 mph, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, grabbing food and eating on the fly... i'm sure people did greater distances faster in the 20th century in these cars, that's why the disclaimer/caveat about a 21st century record...... one i believe will stand for the duration of the century, ..i'm certainly not going to try to reclaim if anyone else WANTS to go for it. BUT it is a demonstration of the reliability and durable nature of ....... "the red thing" -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 Misspelled? Impossible. My modem is error correcting. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 5 15:02:42 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 14:02:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] final figures Message-ID: <1942767231.20080705140242@pacifier.com> Hello , the drive was from Gilette Wyoming to Kelso Washington. Using the odometer which as a demonstrated and documented error of 15%. That includes the stops on and off the freeway for fuel. the actual Google Maps mileage was 1169, but that doesn't cover the detour we had to make in Seattle at about 1:00 am... we started driving at about 6:10 am on Tuesday and arrived at the door at 3:40 am Wendsday .. driving around 62 mph, sometimes faster, sometimes slower, grabbing food and eating on the fly... i'm sure people did greater distances faster in the 20th century in these cars, that's why the disclaimer/caveat about a 21st century record...... one i believe will stand for the duration of the century, ..i'm certainly not going to try to reclaim if anyone else WANTS to go for it. BUT it is a demonstration of the reliability and durable nature of ....... "the red thing" -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 * "This bird has no beak," said Tom impeccably. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 5 15:22:48 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:22:48 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. Message-ID: You definitely use more to run in a headwind, all else equal but 38.5mpg is rather excellent! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bpazur at excel.net Sat Jul 5 16:07:52 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:07:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye Message-ID: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> My generator drive for my Mark I tachometer is making a lot of noise. (The drive was a cheap MO$$ POS to begin with). I'd like to replace the original style tach with a later style tachometer I've had for a long time. I don't know if this later style tach works. How can I test it (and then wire it into the car if it does work)? It has the yellow band going from 5500 to 6000 and the red going from 6000 to 7000, and is a Smiths RVI 240 OOB. It says Positive Earth - my Bugeye is now negative earth. It has a red Ignition indicator at the bottom Thanks. Bud From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Sat Jul 5 15:30:57 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:30:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <611CF590-60BC-4AC3-A8EE-C5949A281983@dartmouth.edu> Eric Jones in Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203 -m On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:57 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > That guy in Ohio. Archives! From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 5 15:36:47 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:36:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. Message-ID: Did you also have a funnell and length of hose? In a message dated 05/07/2008 22:01:59 GMT Daylight Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: grabbing food and eating on the fly... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 5 15:52:15 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:52:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486F65F3.2590.119DB07@dmg.bossig.com> <605838906.20080705140130@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Quite impressive. Right in there with the Iron Butt motorcycle guys. Glad you lived to tell the tale! David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 16:09:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:09:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <486FF112.3000606@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > and i now CLAIM the RECORD (DOCUMENTED! and WITNESSED) for the 21st > CENTURY of > > 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY! > > > > Bill You should have gone 1.5 more miles so the number was a nice easy to remember 1275 :) I did 1100 + or - in 2 days and I was beat, my hat is off to you congratulations and I will not even try to beat that record. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 16:25:30 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:25:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye In-Reply-To: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <486FF4DA.8060401@comcast.net> Bud Pazur wrote: > I don't know if this later style tach works. How can I test it (and then wire > it into the car if it does work)? !st, switch the tach to negative ground. Open up the housing, in the back there is a resistor very close to the wire that goes to the spade terminal coming out of the tach. Unsolder the resistor and the wire, switch them, resolder them. Wiring it to the car needs a white wire from the ignition, thru the loop terminal on the back of the tach and to the + side of the coil. This is for - grd. A green wire which you can pick up off the fuel gauge or signal switch circuit needs to go to the resoldered terminal on the back of the tach. Also, disconnect the existing white wire from the Bugeye key switch that now runs to the coil. It has to go from the key thru the loop on the tach and then to the coil or the tach will not work. The loop is directional, I do not know which way it is supposed to go, if by chance you have a small cut off white wire around the loop post, that would have been correct for + grd, it needs to be reversed for - grd. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 5 16:33:19 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye In-Reply-To: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: Bud, Easier to find an original gear drive unit on Ebay. They last for quite some time as long as you keep them lubed and check the two ends for tightness every time you are under the hood. The trick is not to over-tighten the hex nut to generator side too much. Just snug will do. I have had mine on my Bugeye since the restoration in 2000. No problems with it yet, but I have a couple of spares. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Bud Pazur > My generator drive for my Mark I tachometer is making a lot of noise. (The > drive was a cheap MO$$ POS to begin with). I'd like to replace the > original > style tach with a later style tachometer I've had for a long time. > > I don't know if this later style tach works. How can I test it (and then > wire > it into the car if it does work)? It has the yellow band going from 5500 > to > 6000 and the red going from 6000 to 7000, and is a Smiths RVI 240 OOB. It > says > Positive Earth - my Bugeye is now negative earth. It has a red Ignition > indicator at the bottom > > Thanks. > > Bud > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 5 16:35:57 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 15:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye In-Reply-To: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <20256a4d715a72f24a5442fa.20080705153557.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> And, speaking of gear drive units, the speedo drive unit on my PA 5 speed conversion made a terrible noise turning a corner just before LotO and my speedo just quit. I have not looked at it yet, but anyone have a problem with Paul's drive unit for the Datsun trans yet? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 5 17:07:01 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <611CF590-60BC-4AC3-A8EE-C5949A281983@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <966157.31297.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Guys Illness has forced Eric to suspend his business for the time being. Peter C. was in the process of assuming the business. Stay tuned to this space as Peter is able to reply.... Ron --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > From: Mark A. O'Neil > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 4:30 PM > Eric Jones in > Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203 > > -m > > On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:57 PM, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > That guy in Ohio. Archives! > ________________________________________ From smarc at smarc.net Sat Jul 5 17:56:56 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:56:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics In-Reply-To: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> References: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> Bill's pics are posted at http://www.smarc.net/MG/lotto/index.html I compressed 'em a bit to save bandwidth... Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > During the Funkana, i climbed up the hill behind and took > pictures which i have now stitched together to form a > panoramic of all the cars in the parking lot and the course > below. .. of course no attatchments are allowed here and i > have no idea where to POST such a picture (someone tell me a > free sight for pic posting i'll start putting pics up!).. so > anyone who wants a copy of this AND,, > > i did the same thing at the airport to get all the cars .. I > also jumped up in the back of Tony's truck and made an AVI > movie panoramic.. .. > > anyone who wants them .. email me, an i'll send them off.. > make sure you have broadband or LOTS of time as these files > are, as you can imagine .. HUGE..... > -- Marc From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 19:03:38 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:03:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <01c901c8df04$20542db0$6501a8c0@shop> <> TRUTH, Bud (and Mike)!! Missed one last month for 35 bucks!! Me From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 18:06:06 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 17:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill Lacey wrote: "and i now CLAIM the RECORD (DOCUMENTED! and WITNESSED) for the 21st CENTURY of 1273.05 miles in a SPRITE in a SINGLE DAY!" Hot damn!!!! You averaged 53.04 mph over a 24 hour period? What did you do, have a tube directly from urethra to gas tank in order to take care of the two major issues that chop down averages? Buster From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 19:07:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:07:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486FF112.3000606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01d501c8df04$a51ddc80$6501a8c0@shop> <> What was your miles when you stopped and saw me, then went on to see Ron in "Pieces"(with LOTS of rain), Frank?? From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 18:29:25 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye In-Reply-To: <01c901c8df04$20542db0$6501a8c0@shop> References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <01c901c8df04$20542db0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <487011E5.4060402@comcast.net> Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > TRUTH, Bud (and Mike)!! > > > But if you have a tach and a couple feet of wire..... Besides, it gives you something to do. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 18:31:25 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 20:31:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <01d501c8df04$a51ddc80$6501a8c0@shop> References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486FF112.3000606@comcast.net> <01d501c8df04$a51ddc80$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <4870125D.9080906@comcast.net> Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > What was your miles when you stopped and saw me, then went on to see Ron in "Pieces"(with LOTS of rain), Frank?? > > I don't know but I spent a night in Indiana so I never even came close to 1273 miles in a day in a Sprite. And I don't think I want to. Maybe 20 years ago or if I put AC in the Bugeye ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 5 19:44:04 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:44:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics References: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> <48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> Message-ID: <054d01c8df09$c65b21a0$4e947e4c@HP> Bill, that is a really good picture. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc" To: "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics > Bill's pics are posted at http://www.smarc.net/MG/lotto/index.html > > I compressed 'em a bit to save bandwidth... > > > Bill L wrote: >> Hello Spridgets, >> >> During the Funkana, i climbed up the hill behind and took >> pictures which i have now stitched together to form a >> panoramic of all the cars in the parking lot and the course >> below. .. of course no attatchments are allowed here and i >> have no idea where to POST such a picture (someone tell me a >> free sight for pic posting i'll start putting pics up!).. so >> anyone who wants a copy of this AND,, >> >> i did the same thing at the airport to get all the cars .. I >> also jumped up in the back of Tony's truck and made an AVI >> movie panoramic.. .. >> >> anyone who wants them .. email me, an i'll send them off.. >> make sure you have broadband or LOTS of time as these files >> are, as you can imagine .. HUGE..... >> > -- > > Marc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 20:48:02 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:48:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint References: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> Message-ID: <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Can't stand what? Buster and I were'nt talking about Concours colors. We were just talking about the original paint on our cars. Is Whimbledon White a Concours specified color or something? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > OK, OK I can not stand it any longer. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 21:08:29 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:08:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics In-Reply-To: <48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> References: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> <48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> Message-ID: So I was wondering... Is that a poltergeist tire woman behind the white bugeye with the bimini top? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Marc wrote: > Bill's pics are posted at http://www.smarc.net/MG/lotto/index.html > > I compressed 'em a bit to save bandwidth... > > > Bill L wrote: > > Hello Spridgets, > > > > During the Funkana, i climbed up the hill behind and took > > pictures which i have now stitched together to form a > > panoramic of all the cars in the parking lot and the course > > below. .. of course no attatchments are allowed here and i > > have no idea where to POST such a picture (someone tell me a > > free sight for pic posting i'll start putting pics up!).. so > > anyone who wants a copy of this AND,, > > > > i did the same thing at the airport to get all the cars .. I > > also jumped up in the back of Tony's truck and made an AVI > > movie panoramic.. .. > > > > anyone who wants them .. email me, an i'll send them off.. > > make sure you have broadband or LOTS of time as these files > > are, as you can imagine .. HUGE..... > > > -- > > Marc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jul 5 21:12:42 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:12:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <20080706031255.2466B187869@autox.team.net> Where I come from it is called making your point the hard way. Your pictures look great, the best old English white I've ever seen. I had a can of oem factory paint that didn't look that original. Crash Can't stand what? Buster and I were'nt talking about Concours colors. We were just talking about the original paint on our cars. Is Whimbledon White a Concours specified color or something? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > OK, OK I can not stand it any longer. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 21:27:07 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:27:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <4870125D.9080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank Clarici wrote: "I don't know but I spent a night in Indiana so I never even came close to 1273 miles in a day in a Sprite. And I don't think I want to. Maybe 20 years ago or if I put AC in the Bugeye ;)" My "best" (or worst) was in 1961 on Christmas leave Memphis Naval Air Station. It was a little over 2,000 miles in 50 hours from Memphis, Tennessee, to Downey, California. It was straight through, except for 3 hours sleep in El Paso, and before the advent of freeways. Of course those little red diet pills were still legal, even though as I as crossed the California desert in the dawning of the second morning, I was seeing all kinds of strange little creatures darting across the roadway in front of me, over and under the Sprite, and running alongside! I was glad to get home. I made six more of these crossings, but none like that one. Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 21:33:46 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:33:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] About the cap, Frank... In-Reply-To: <486FF4DA.8060401@comcast.net> Message-ID: In a couple of the photos I have seen, Frank, you were wearing a cap that looked familiar. Was that the AH Spares "Sprite" cap given to you by the owner, Bob Hill, when we were there last year? And I got stuck with the Big Healey cap. But, as I said when we divvied them up at the time, you deserved it as being "Mr. Sprite"! By the way, what is the "number" of cars now? Buster From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 5 22:44:31 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:44:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics References: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com><48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> Message-ID: <011701c8df22$fc245220$6501a8c0@shop> << Is that a poltergeist tire woman behind the white bugeye with the bimini top?>> Nah, Kent!! BUT it IS the 'edge' of "stitching"!!! LOL From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 5 21:56:10 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NYC LBC? Message-ID: <939111.22849.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just got back from the annual family trip to NYC. Was commenting to my kidss this morning on our walk back (with "regular" coffee in hand!) from the bagel store how the only British cars we saw were of the Rolls/Bentley variety when we turn the corner from Lex onto 42nd Street, and a black rubber bumpered Midget goes by on the back of a flat bed! Anyone on the list???? It had "Midget" written in a fancy gold script on the front fenders, looked nice despite the potential pimpiness. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 5 22:36:56 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 23:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807052136y3359a051i26f4221ebeab570d@mail.gmail.com> Given that the Williams sisters just finished Whilmbledon is it appropriate to talk of "Whimbledon White"? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/5/08, Dean Hedin wrote: > > Can't stand what? > > Buster and I were'nt talking about Concours colors. > We were just talking about the original paint on our cars. > > Is Whimbledon White a Concours specified color or something? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kitterer Bob" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > > > > OK, OK I can not stand it any longer. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 23:00:30 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 01:00:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint Message-ID: <001c01c8df25$36b2ca50$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Oh no... Look, my car will never be a concours contender. Although as I've grown older I am taking the approach to make it as original as I can. And who knows, maybe Buster is right, maybe my original chip is yellowed. Maybe I should look around for more original paint on the car. I'd really like to see Busters car, as it sounds like he has done his homework. As for the official concours colors, I have no idea. I think Bob is right, the colors from the factory may have been all over the place. Regarding the three LBC owners who came over on the 4th.... It was a little dissapointing as it was raining so the car could only be looked at under florecent lights in the garage and not in the sunlight. This paint really changes shades based on the light. They all agreed the new paint matched the little chip of original paint. They all liked the overall impression of the color of the car. The E-Type owner seemd to feel that it looked a little tan or yellow compared to his OEW Jag. However I did show him some other OEW Bugeyes photos and I think it was clear to him that the bugeye OEW is probably not comparable to the OEW on his later Jag. The former Morgan owner had a buddy back in the early sixteis with a Bugeye that he drove in quite a bit , sadly it was Primrose. I was really hoping for "Yea! thats it.That is OEW as I remember!" But that did'nt happen. My brother was concerned less with the color and more with the execution of the third coat! Dave, did you really have a can of OEM paint? How long ago was that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ramsey" To: "'Dean Hedin'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:12 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > Where I come from it is called making your point the hard way. Your > pictures > look great, the best old English white I've ever seen. I had a can of oem > factory paint that didn't look that original. > Crash > > Can't stand what? > > Buster and I were'nt talking about Concours colors. > We were just talking about the original paint on our cars. > > Is Whimbledon White a Concours specified color or something? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 23:18:30 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 01:18:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers Message-ID: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> In the list archives someone mentioned that the home improvement centers had stuff by the roll that is pretty close to the original door mat material. I went to Home despot today to look at the stuff, but all they had was this black vinyl that had very coarse corregation. Like 3 ribs per inch. I found this stuff on the web: http://www.rubbercal.com/Corrugated_Fine_Rib.html That looks pretty good, but they don't specify how many ribs/in it has. I figure I'll order a sample to resolve that. It also rubber, not vinyl. Were the original door mats rubber or vinyl? From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 5 23:57:44 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 22:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In-Reply-To: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean Hedin wrote: "I went to Home despot today to look at the stuff, but all they had was this black vinyl that had very coarse corregation. Like 3 ribs per inch." Home Destroyer also carries some that is 9 ribs per inch (as opposed to the original 7). Yes, it was black, but easy-peasy to change to any color you want by first spraying it with their plastic primer paint first. I followed with their red plastic spray paint, which is bloody well near the original red. Or, I know some folks who, after spraying the plastic primer, have used any good quality spray paint. The trick is adhering it to the inside of the doors. Tricky, yet easy once you think it out. To be fair, I have to say that Frank had some trouble with getting the paint to adhere to the material. I had no trouble and it is still fine after two years. Being Hoity Toity Southern California, I probably have a higher quality Horrible Despot than he does. Buster From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Jul 6 00:22:02 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 23:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes Message-ID: <514924.78059.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings. My sprite had been suffering that sinking pedal feeling..on the brakes and clutch. so, i just put a new seal kit through my tandem master cylinder. I did it a bit half-arsed in that i left the MC in the car and did not hone out the bores. I only rinsed them out with clean fluid from a syringe, wiped the insides with a clean cloth and then reassembled, carefully noting the position and orientation of the 'residual valve' (which looked different to the old one) Clutch bleeding (amazingly) went quite well. (I have a datsun 5speed box, which I reckon has slightly better access to the slave.) I used a big 60mL syringe and a length of clear hose like fish tank air hose to suck the fluid through. I used the syringe on the brakes too but it seems that when you use suction, air will seep bast the bleeder valve threads and ito the stream, so you cant tell if its air from in the system or from outside....anyway... Bleed bleed bleed my way through almost a litre of fluid, using assorted lengths of 2x4 to jam in between the pedal and any convenient anchor point to hold pedal pressure while i open/shut the bleed nipples. Eventually I grabbed a passing neighbour and enlisted him to push the brake pedal while i ran around from wheel to wheel in the specified LR RR LF RF sequence. No more air coming out...but still a spongy feel to the brake pedal. A quick search of the autox archive says I should leave the car sit for a few days now and let some magical elves finish the job... I assume this means that the remaining air will dissolve into the brake fluid if given time. Car stops OK, just the pedal travels further than I am used to or am comfortable with. Does anyone have any other tips?...not including bench bleeding the MC, which i am not game to try and undo the pipes to (because I am almost guaranteed to round off the nuts and destroy them) Andy Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/mail From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Jul 6 00:49:32 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 02:49:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: Message-ID: <005601c8df34$72826220$0400a8c0@blackbox2> I did'nt see 9 ribs per inch Buster, maybe its regional. I checked Lowest & Home Despot. They both had the same coarse stuff. I went to the floor covering area and I think they called it "vinyl runner". I want black and will not need to paint. Original material is vinyl here, then? ----- Original Message ----- From: B- Evans Home Destroyer also carries some that is 9 ribs per inch (as opposed to the original 7). Yes, it was black, but easy-peasy to change to any color you want by first spraying it with their plastic primer paint first. I followed with their red plastic spray paint, which is bloody well near the original red. Or, I know some folks who, after spraying the plastic primer, have used any good quality spray paint. The trick is adhering it to the inside of the doors. Tricky, yet easy once you think it out. From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 6 00:48:39 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:48:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] smoking release bearing? Message-ID: <48706AC7.5050304@smarc.net> (Apologies if this came through before) I believe I have this solved. I checked the amount of free play in the pedal, and there was almost no discernible amount. Underneath the car, I could not even move the clutch fork with the slave connected. With no pressure on the pedal, the slave was exerting enough force to keep the release bearing in pretty good contact with the pressure plate. I believe this problem must have existed for some time, as the roller style release bearing that was in the car when I pulled the engine had several melted areas on it's plastic body. So it must have been turning constantly and getting way hot. Maybe thats why the roller bearing was in there in the first place? Anyway, I shortened up the slave cylinder pushrod by 1/8" and that gave a little bit of free play. Took off another 1/16", and now it works properly. On to the next problem... -- Marc From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 6 05:58:33 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 04:58:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: bleeding the brakes Message-ID: <009501c8df5f$9e649c20$9603f204@spider> You have done good. I always keep one friend in the neighborhood to help bleed the brake and clutch systems. Air can work its way out of the system, and if it's working, time is on your side. I don't think air can dissolve into the fluid. Double check the adjustment on all four wheels. ...bill in oregon ==================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Webster Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:22 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes Greetings. My sprite had been suffering that sinking pedal feeling..on the brakes and clutch. . . . No more air coming out...but still a spongy feel to the brake pedal. A quick search of the autox archive says I should leave the car sit for a few days now and let some magical elves finish the job... I assume this means that the remaining air will dissolve into the brake fluid if given time. Car stops OK, just the pedal travels further than I am used to or am comfortable with. Does anyone have any other tips?...not including bench bleeding the MC, which i am not game to try and undo the pipes to (because I am almost guaranteed to round off the nuts and destroy them) Andy From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 6 06:43:36 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:43:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: Message-ID: <013401c8df65$e8e100d0$6401a8c0@Larry> ...Being Hoity Toity Southern California, I probably have a higher quality Horrible Despot than he does. Buster _______________________________________________ Gee whiz, Buster, is saying "higher quality" and "Home Depot" in the same sentence even legal? LAD From biffjones at verizon.net Sun Jul 6 06:47:01 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:47:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: Message-ID: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> I have a few pieces of original door liner material and it has 6 "ribs" per inch, not 9. And while the stuff you can buy has square ribs the original material has round top ribs with the lowest points being an acute angle. It's hard to describe but sorta of like an upside down U's connected with V's . Biff From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 6 07:17:37 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:17:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint Message-ID: Make that Wimbledon! In a message dated 06/07/2008 05:37:13 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: Given that the Williams sisters just finished Whilmbledon is it appropriate to talk of "Whimbledon White"? ;-) Cheers!! Jim From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jul 6 07:21:51 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:21:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <001c01c8df6b$40ea49d0$6501a8c0@refisk> Dean, If you have ACE hardware stores where you live check them out. They have some floor runner material that looks pretty good. Not sure if it's Old English Black though. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers > In the list archives someone mentioned that the home improvement centers > had > stuff by the roll that is pretty close to the original door mat > material.......... From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 6 07:51:29 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:51:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In-Reply-To: <005601c8df34$72826220$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean Hedin wrote: "I did'nt see 9 ribs per inch Buster, maybe its regional. I checked Lowest & Home Despot. They both had the same coarse stuff. I went to the floor covering area and I think they called it "vinyl runner". I want black and will not need to paint. Original material is vinyl here, then?" Black vinyl "runner" material is what they both have. It is on a roll in the flooring area. AH Spares carries sidepocket material, although I don't remember if it is vinyl or rubber. When I looked at it at their shop, I decided against it because of the large size. I believe Ron Soave used the AH Spares sidepocket material and was quite happy with it, so you should check with him. Nope, the original material for the sidepockets was rubber; the same as were the floor mats and tunnel cover. Buster From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 07:57:31 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes In-Reply-To: <514924.78059.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <239084.77159.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I recently went through the brakes on my '71. Ended up with a new master cylinder because I failed at disassembling mine. Even with a borrowed hand vacuum pump I could not get the brakes bled to my satisfaction. The car was up on four stands. I tried with the front end higher, the rear end higher, and everything flat to no avail. Just couldn't get it done by myself. Got it close, though. The solution came when my son had a break in his school and track schedule that meshed with my schedule. He pumped while I bled each corner and everything went well in about 15 minutes. There is aparently no substitute for a helper. - David Long Island --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Andy Webster wrote: From: Andy Webster Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "spridgets" Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 1:22 AM Greetings. My sprite had been suffering that sinking pedal feeling..on the brakes and clutch. so, i just put a new seal kit through my tandem master cylinder. I did it a bit half-arsed in that i left the MC in the car and did not hone out the bores. I only rinsed them out with clean fluid from a syringe, wiped the insides with a clean cloth and then reassembled, carefully noting the position and orientation of the 'residual valve' (which looked different to the old one) Clutch bleeding (amazingly) went quite well. (I have a datsun 5speed box, which I reckon has slightly better access to the slave.) I used a big 60mL syringe and a length of clear hose like fish tank air hose to suck the fluid through. I used the syringe on the brakes too but it seems that when you use suction, air will seep bast the bleeder valve threads and ito the stream, so you cant tell if its air from in the system or from outside....anyway... Bleed bleed bleed my way through almost a litre of fluid, using assorted lengths of 2x4 to jam in between the pedal and any convenient anchor point to hold pedal pressure while i open/shut the bleed nipples. Eventually I grabbed a passing neighbour and enlisted him to push the brake pedal while i ran around from wheel to wheel in the specified LR RR LF RF sequence. No more air coming out...but still a spongy feel to the brake pedal. A quick search of the autox archive says I should leave the car sit for a few days now and let some magical elves finish the job... I assume this means that the remaining air will dissolve into the brake fluid if given time. Car stops OK, just the pedal travels further than I am used to or am comfortable with. Does anyone have any other tips?...not including bench bleeding the MC, which i am not game to try and undo the pipes to (because I am almost guaranteed to round off the nuts and destroy them) Andy Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/mail You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 6 07:58:13 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 06:58:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In-Reply-To: <013401c8df65$e8e100d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Larry Daniels wrote: "Gee whiz, Buster, is saying "higher quality" and "Home Depot" in the same sentence even legal?" Entirely *possible* (I didn't say *probable*) in the teeming megalopolis of more discriminating buyers than found in the hinterlands. (I.e. pandering to the S.C. ego). I mean, do you REALLY think Horrible Destruction could get away with selling in New York City the same quality that they sell in Potts Camp, Mississippi? Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 6 08:01:24 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:01:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In-Reply-To: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: Biff Jones wrote: "I have a few pieces of original door liner material and it has 6 "ribs" per inch, not 9. And while the stuff you can buy has square ribs the original material has round top ribs with the lowest points being an acute angle. It's hard to describe but sorta of like an upside down U's connected with V's ." That's IT! I still have all of the original rubber, albeit in pieces. I have long thought of trying to piece it back together on some kind of back (perhaps fiberglass cloth) and restoring the color. But, it has been just "one of these days" we all have in life. Buster From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 08:18:14 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NYC LBC? In-Reply-To: <939111.22849.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <440891.50030.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, It wasn't me. Mine's a chrome bumper and I don't drive it in NYC. I don't even drive my regular cars there unless I have a parking space garanteed somewhere off the streets, or am just passing through to places west. If you notice, all the cars in NYC have bumper rash. Not just some, virtually every one. This is because people here have zero respect for other people's cars. They parallel park by the brail method. Unfamiliar with that method? Here a description: Back into a space till you hit the car behind, then pull forward till you hit that one, then kind of split the difference. If you're not skilled enough to get it right the first time, just repeat the entire process two or three times till you think you're far enough out of the traffic flow. This also works if there's not quite a long enough space for your car because they've discovered that parked cars will move if you push them hard enough. I promise I'm not exaggerating. I see this every day and it amazes me that this is just the accepted method of parking. If you want to see LBC's, next time take a day trip out on Long Island, they're everywhere. There are active clubs for just about every marque, sunset cruises, beach cruises, shows, rallys, etc. Email me before your next trip and I'll be happy to let you know of anything in the MG or Austin Healey club events schedules. Our MG club meets the second Friday of each month. That alone would garantee you will see a bunch of LBC's. David Booker Long Island --- On Sat, 7/5/08, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] NYC LBC? To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 5, 2008, 10:56 PM Just got back from the annual family trip to NYC. Was commenting to my kidss this morning on our walk back (with "regular" coffee in hand!) from the bagel store how the only British cars we saw were of the Rolls/Bentley variety when we turn the corner from Lex onto 42nd Street, and a black rubber bumpered Midget goes by on the back of a flat bed! Anyone on the list???? It had "Midget" written in a fancy gold script on the front fenders, looked nice despite the potential pimpiness. Ron You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 6 08:38:33 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:38:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NYC LBC? In-Reply-To: <440891.50030.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <440891.50030.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92C629EB5F58494B98A6F97EB5AC7D8B@Home> I caved in a few inches of the front fender on my wife's car trying to inch *very* slowly into a small spot in NYC. A shop keeper was standing 10' away watching and never said a word. Michael Rowe From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 6 09:19:08 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:19:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4870E26C.4080503@comcast.net> B- Evans wrote: > > Of course those little red diet pills were still legal, even though > as I as crossed the California desert in the dawning of the second > morning, I was seeing all kinds of strange little creatures darting > across the roadway in front of me, over and under the Sprite, and > running alongside! > Gee, my diet pills on the way back from Florida in a Sprite in 1972 were yellow. Bet mine were better ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 6 09:29:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:29:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes In-Reply-To: <514924.78059.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <514924.78059.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4870E4C5.1010405@comcast.net> Drive the car a few miles, let it sit a few days, and pedal pump bleed it again. The air should work it's way to the bleeders in time. I think form all the pumping on the initial bleed, we get tiny air bubbles in the system. I have had good luck with the 2nd bleeding a week or so later. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 09:44:29 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NYC LBC? In-Reply-To: <440891.50030.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487781.67341.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, David Booker wrote: > If you want to see LBC's, next time take a day trip out > on Long Island, they're everywhere. David, I'll take you up on that. I grew up in Commack, my 1st car was an MGB. I also owned a Spitfire and my father had a Lotus while we lived there (I was born there in 1965, moved away for good in 1990). I used to slum around at the Penny Lane LBC shop in Huntington to learn. In my younger and arguably stupider days I drove my MGB into the city to Yankee games from 1984 to 1987 before they drew 55,000 each night. I've broken down on FDR drive, Co-op City in the Bronx and in the worst one ever, the GW bridge. My wife got her Masters degree at NYU, and my favorite car to drive in the city was a 1972 Buick LeSabre that I bought for $50. It was an anti-cabbie weapon. In the Midwest where I am now, I drive an old Alfa daily, my Bugeye when it's running right, and have a co-worker who lives an MGA daily. We also have Flounder, Peter C., and Lieb running around locally in their LBCs. I travel a lot, and the Midwest in summer seems to have the most cool old cars out and about on a regular basis these days. Cheers, Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 09:47:27 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <4870E26C.4080503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <310379.71987.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > Gee, my diet pills on the way back from Florida in a Sprite > in 1972 were > yellow. > Bet mine were better ;) Ah, RJ8's...available mail-order in the back of Popular Mechanics next to the Charles Atlas ads..... Anon From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 6 10:48:18 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:48:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. In-Reply-To: <4870E26C.4080503@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank Clarici wrote: "Gee, my diet pills on the way back from Florida in a Sprite in 1972 were yellow. Bet mine were better ;) Yeah, but mine were ILLEGAL by the time you grew up, so mine must have been better. Buster From richb at u.washington.edu Sun Jul 6 11:05:17 2008 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 10:05:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Who needs a project Message-ID: '63 Sprite for sale cheap on Seattle Craigslist. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/744005833.html Rich Ball Everett, WA '76 Midget From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jul 6 11:05:30 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:05:30 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] bleeding the brakes Message-ID: "I have had good luck with the second bleeding a week or so later" Same. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From cclabaw at juno.com Sun Jul 6 11:25:40 2008 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 17:25:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Primrose Message-ID: <20080706.102540.7119.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Listers - Now that the OEW frenzy has subsided, can anyone suggest a rattle-can paint that's a reasonable match to the 'Primrose' used on my '67 Sprite. I don't need a perfect match, just a good "ten foot" touch-up until the body work is done. Clay L. ____________________________________________________________ Win the battle of the bulge with great liposuction solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nELSxUegvAf77SUZ7dlBGanQ5f XEVKxtUGqU3cdLBTBwvS0/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 11:55:39 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:55:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: FWIW, I purchased the entire assembly, with TWO grease zerks on the lower fulcrum pin, from Ed @ Just Brits. He NEVER answers the phone, and rarely answers emails, is one of the grumpiest old cooches you will EVER deal with, BUT, he will sell you a quality product. If you can get past his charming personality (I can tell you he never met Will Rogers) he is a wonderful resource for our parts. No ill will to Peter C, as I was not aware he was selling rebuilt units. I WILL suggest that while you are doing the A-arms, consider the replacement of your front shocks, purchased FROM Peter C. I spent about 2.5 to 3 hours installing the front suspension bits, and shocks on our 68. It was the BEST investment in handling that I EVER did. It handles a treat, especially when you are going almost twice the posted speed limit, on a twisty road in Missouri. On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > I need an A Arm. Hopefully with good lower fulcrum bushings. > > > > Alternatively who sells the fulcrum bushing that I can braze in? > > > > Or who rebuilds these? > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 13:33:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:33:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO gasO final numbers in.. References: <415931707.20080705120712@pacifier.com> <486FF112.3000606@comcast.net> <01d501c8df04$a51ddc80$6501a8c0@shop> <4870125D.9080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <012b01c8df9f$309cb6b0$6501a8c0@shop> <> uh Frank, what would you do at the Toll Booth(s) with side curtains in place driving 'Pieces'??? And would the 'controls' be RH'd?? 'Hopper From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sun Jul 6 12:44:17 2008 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:44:17 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers Message-ID: Speaking of interior door covers, I have a pair Bugeye interior door covers. Not the 6"-9" rubber ones, but a pair of Cherry Red door pocket covers. NOS still in the original BMC (or whatever) paper wrapping. I bought them from Rick Moses back about 1988 or so and never used them. They would be strictly for a Concours car or the like. I got them as a spare set as I cut door speakers in the ones in the car. Anyone out there interested, please contact me off list. Rudy Streng BN4 - AN5 Lenoir, NC **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 6 12:54:52 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:54:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <001b01c8df99$c62e1bc0$6401a8c0@personal> Oh, were you following me? LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Tracy Drummond" Cc: Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms > FWIW, I purchased the entire assembly, with TWO grease zerks on the lower > fulcrum pin, from Ed @ Just Brits. > He NEVER answers the phone, and rarely answers emails, is one of the > grumpiest old cooches you will EVER deal with, BUT, he will sell you a > quality product. > If you can get past his charming personality (I can tell you he never met > Will Rogers) he is a wonderful resource for our parts. No ill will to > Peter > C, as I was not aware he was selling rebuilt units. I WILL suggest that > while you are doing the A-arms, consider the replacement of your front > shocks, purchased FROM Peter C. > I spent about 2.5 to 3 hours installing the front suspension bits, and > shocks on our 68. It was the BEST investment in handling that I EVER did. > It > handles a treat, especially when you are going almost twice the posted > speed > limit, on a twisty road in Missouri. > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Tracy Drummond > wrote: > >> I need an A Arm. Hopefully with good lower fulcrum bushings. >> >> >> >> Alternatively who sells the fulcrum bushing that I can braze in? >> >> >> >> Or who rebuilds these? >> >> >> >> Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! >> >> President AHCUSA www.healey.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 14:18:55 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:18:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Carpet install question, almost half way done. Message-ID: <016601c8dfa5$8499f7e0$6501a8c0@shop> Someone on The Healey List was lamenting being UN-able to find an ice pick to use for hole locating. The best answer was: I believe in order to purchase and own an ice pick these days you need a background check, a permit and a waiting period. There are classes offered by the National Ice Pick Association on the safe use and handling of an ice pick. You are allowed to have an ice pick in your home but it must be in a locked container with the handle separated from the pick. This policy, along with the abolition of recess and gym in school has produced a generation of obese, but safe children. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 13:38:38 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:38:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <001b01c8df99$c62e1bc0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> <001b01c8df99$c62e1bc0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Why YES Jack, I was.... On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Oh, were you following me? LOL > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Tracy Drummond" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms > > > FWIW, I purchased the entire assembly, with TWO grease zerks on the lower >> fulcrum pin, from Ed @ Just Brits. >> He NEVER answers the phone, and rarely answers emails, is one of the >> grumpiest old cooches you will EVER deal with, BUT, he will sell you a >> quality product. >> If you can get past his charming personality (I can tell you he never met >> Will Rogers) he is a wonderful resource for our parts. No ill will to >> Peter >> C, as I was not aware he was selling rebuilt units. I WILL suggest that >> while you are doing the A-arms, consider the replacement of your front >> shocks, purchased FROM Peter C. >> I spent about 2.5 to 3 hours installing the front suspension bits, and >> shocks on our 68. It was the BEST investment in handling that I EVER did. >> It >> handles a treat, especially when you are going almost twice the posted >> speed >> limit, on a twisty road in Missouri. >> >> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Tracy Drummond >> wrote: >> >> I need an A Arm. Hopefully with good lower fulcrum bushings. >>> >>> >>> >>> Alternatively who sells the fulcrum bushing that I can braze in? >>> >>> >>> >>> Or who rebuilds these? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! >>> >>> President AHCUSA www.healey.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> DON JULIO 1942 >> >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 6 15:38:51 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:38:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint In-Reply-To: <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <002c01c8de4d$24f6c7e0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <0F895F09-1185-443F-9EB3-354D93CD59A8@mac.com> <001a01c8df12$b5ed1cc0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: It seemed that the discussion was who's original color was correct and my point was both are correct. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 5, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Can't stand what? > > Buster and I were'nt talking about Concours colors. > We were just talking about the original paint on our cars. > > Is Whimbledon White a Concours specified color or something? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kitterer Bob" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original paint > > >> OK, OK I can not stand it any longer. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sun Jul 6 15:48:12 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Got the next project!! Message-ID: <200807062148.m66LmCRF014800@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> Funny how things go. Discussing LotO with Davis' other LBC nut led to him offering me just what I was looking for. A nice Morris Minor pickup frame and cab. The bed is gone but the parts I need to make a little flat-bed are all there. It came with a 2dr sedan donor car that has all the bits I'll need. I've got a 1275 and 5 sp. sitting around, so the next winter's entertainment is assured. Virtually rust free, youse East coast guys will hate me, but I got both for $300 The best part is that my wife is almost as excited as I am since she saw a beautiful custom MM flatbed at the local show this year and loved it. She's already named it (don't ask) and decided on the color and upholstery. Potential tow vehicle for the next.........../????? Glen Byrns From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 6 15:54:03 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 14:54:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Got the next project!! In-Reply-To: <200807062148.m66LmCRF014800@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> References: <200807062148.m66LmCRF014800@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <001301c8dfb2$cfa503d0$731bf304@spider> Minnie the Morris? ...bill in oregon ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:48 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Got the next project!! . . . She's already named it (don't ask) and decided on the color and upholstery. Potential tow vehicle for the next.........../????? Glen Byrns _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 6 16:21:46 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:21:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door Message-ID: Panic set in as I had the Midget pushed halfway out of the garage today, so that I could get a ladder out, and the garage door started to close. I ran and pulled the string which I thought was the emergency stop and pulled it right out and watched the door hit the windshield and bounce back. Mentally, the blue words were flying. There is some white paint on the glass and everything else looked okay, but I didn't look closely, as I wanted to calm down first. The door had been acting up a bit and a new one has been added to my to do list. From bpazur at excel.net Sun Jul 6 17:37:07 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:37:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <000b01c8dfc1$350bff40$1ce767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Frank, Tim, Mike - Thanks for the great replies. Mike - I am a little wary of buying things on ebay with moving mechanical parts. Been burned a couple times. Frank - yeah, I like a (little) challenge. BTW - I didn't take Mr. White to LOTO for several reasons, but since I solved my miss problem, the car has been running around the environs in great fashion. Took it to the 'Ducktona 500' today. A tradition in Sheboygan Falls WI. Thousands of people buy a ticket for a little rubber duckie with a number it. Three thousnand of these are released at the same time up river, and the first three to cross the finish line win prizes ($1000 to $250). You would be amazed at the crowd along the banks. Course, this is Wisco. They also had a car show - mostly American. But they did have a MGB-GT and a Morris Minor truck entered. Mr. White would have been somewhat unique, but I don't like entering car shows - too much hanging around. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bud Pazur" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye > Bud, > Easier to find an original gear drive unit on Ebay. They last for > quite some time as long as you keep them lubed and check the two ends > for tightness every time you are under the hood. The trick is not to > over-tighten the hex nut to generator side too much. Just snug will > do. I have had mine on my Bugeye since the restoration in 2000. No > problems with it yet, but I have a couple of spares. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > Bud Pazur > > My generator drive for my Mark I tachometer is making a lot of noise. (The > > drive was a cheap MO$$ POS to begin with). I'd like to replace the > > original > > style tach with a later style tachometer I've had for a long time. > > > > I don't know if this later style tach works. How can I test it (and then > > wire > > it into the car if it does work)? It has the yellow band going from 5500 > > to > > 6000 and the red going from 6000 to 7000, and is a Smiths RVI 240 OOB. It > > says > > Positive Earth - my Bugeye is now negative earth. It has a red Ignition > > indicator at the bottom > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bud > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 18:21:06 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:21:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Tachometer For Bugeye References: <001101c8deeb$92667c50$2fe867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <000b01c8dfc1$350bff40$1ce767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <004001c8dfc7$59613d50$6501a8c0@shop> <> Czar Daley copied it several years ago, Bud!! Just done in the Chicago river!! NO, I did NOT buy a ticket because it required going into his "realm" with now the highest Retail Sales Tax in the Nation !! He re-named himself seveal years ago to "Richard the Great" (ala Peter the Great"!! From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Jul 6 17:33:53 2008 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:33:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! In-Reply-To: References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> Message-ID: <48715661.6060908@cox.net> CosmicMag1380 wrote: >I've heard of getting the bugs out of a car but never the rats! > > I once had a 'possum take up residence in my MGB. That was a major surprise. Once I stopped laughing, I propped the hood open and took the kids to lunch. Byt the time we got back, it had moved on. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 17:40:16 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Any one know this Company in the UK? Message-ID: <848127.20520.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group, I just started working on a intake manifold for a Weber i acquired. The linkage says : P.Q.R. Eng. Co. ??wlands Castle - ( Guessing - Lowlands?) Hampshire England I tried a Internet search and did not have any luck. I am not sure how old the linkage is so they could have moved or closed or in the same location with no web site. For those curious minds - I am working on it for a friends car - not mine. I am happy with my SU's. The linkage is still OK except for some connectors i can replace with parts from a speed shop and make them work. If i could get OMP - i would rather use them is the reason i am asking. Life is so much easier with the correct part. Any help would be appreciated. (TIA) Vigil So Cal From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 6 17:38:37 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu><486E5487.2090905@cox.net> <48715661.6060908@cox.net> Message-ID: <025901c8dfc1$6a3d3ee0$6401a8c0@Larry> You need to ask WST about his long history with Raccoons. Really. In two states. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ambrose" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! CosmicMag1380 wrote: >I've heard of getting the bugs out of a car but never the rats! > > I once had a 'possum take up residence in my MGB. That was a major surprise. Once I stopped laughing, I propped the hood open and took the kids to lunch. Byt the time we got back, it had moved on. Cheers, Dave Ambrose You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 17:57:47 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Webber 40 side draft - Question Message-ID: <198690.47838.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group, Any one out there running a Weber 40 side draft carb. I would like to find out what you are using in the set up. I am hoping to find some one with a street motor. I am putting the manifold and carb on a what is thought to be a stock 1275cc motor. To many owners before him to know for sure. But it does not sound like it has a cam and the head looks stock. I know there are several variables when setting up a Weber. I just need some setting for reference points. needles, jets and any thing else you feel would put me in the right direction. Thanks again, Vigil So Cal Vigil From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 6 17:58:14 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 16:58:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] carb bits and pieces In-Reply-To: <848127.20520.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <848127.20520.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001901c8dfc4$288de0f0$731bf304@spider> Try http://piercemanifolds.com/linkage.htm for those little bits and pieces. ...bill in oregon ======================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:40 PM To: Vigil Cc: spridgets; Morris Motors; Sprite; Midget/Sprite Subject: [Spridgets] Any one know this Company in the UK? Group, I just started working on a intake manifold for a Weber i acquired. The linkage says : P.Q.R. Eng. Co. ??wlands Castle - ( Guessing - Lowlands?) Hampshire England I tried a Internet search and did not have any luck. I am not sure how old the linkage is so they could have moved or closed or in the same location with no web site. For those curious minds - I am working on it for a friends car - not mine. I am happy with my SU's. The linkage is still OK except for some connectors i can replace with parts from a speed shop and make them work. If i could get OMP - i would rather use them is the reason i am asking. Life is so much easier with the correct part. Any help would be appreciated. (TIA) Vigil So Cal _______________________________________________ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 18:48:15 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:48:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Never know what you will find in the trans tunnel! In-Reply-To: <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> References: <200807040530.m645UWoe004914@diometes.ucdavis.edu> <486E5487.2090905@cox.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807061748p47181460u37f1e647149bfc59@mail.gmail.com> I keep hearing of these "rat rods" that are all the rage now, but I don't think this is what they mean! On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Paul Herder wrote: > My wife has has a lot more "want" to work on her 66 Sprite now that we > are back from LotO. > > While she was busy doing that, I decided to take the "bare" tub out and > pressure wash the car and to clean out the tunnel. > > Here is what I found along with the dirt (now mud) and other bits and > pieces... > > http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/SpriteRat.jpg From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Jul 6 18:46:36 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:46:36 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] garage door Message-ID: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Are you talking about the garage door itself malfunctioning or a garage door opener? If it was the opener, did it not have an electric eye safety system? I just installed a neat opener made by Liftmaster. It is their model 3800 and it works by turning the bar above the door (called a Jackshaft type) rather than the traditional type that pulls the door up. You mount it to the wall next to the door rather in the middle of the ceiling. It is easier to mount and doesn't clutter up your ceiling area, which was important for me as I have a lift that a traditional style would have interfered with. David -- "Robert Duquette" wrote: Panic set in as I had the Midget pushed halfway out of the garage today, so that I could get a ladder out, and the garage door started to close. I ran and pulled the string which I thought was the emergency stop and pulled it right out and watched the door hit the windshield and bounce back. Mentally, the blue words were flying. There is some white paint on the glass and everything else looked okay, but I didn't look closely, as I wanted to calm down first. The door had been acting up a bit and a new one has been added to my to do list. You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Not having a degree dragging you down?? Click here for free information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNfZxwAXK7cMBq1bQUj0H2gz7k qC0giqI7kP40nMd4zdv5q/ From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Jul 6 18:56:37 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:56:37 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Any one know this Company in the UK? Message-ID: <20080706.195637.8220.2@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> I don't know the company, but I think the town is Rowlands Castle in Hampshire. http://www.rowlandscastle.com/ David -- uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: Group, I just started working on a intake manifold for a Weber i acquired. The linkage says : P.Q.R. Eng. Co. ??wlands Castle - ( Guessing - Lowlands?) Hampshire England I tried a Internet search and did not have any luck. I am not sure how old the linkage is so they could have moved or closed or in the same location with no web site. For those curious minds - I am working on it for a friends car - not mine. I am happy with my SU's. The linkage is still OK except for some connectors i can replace with parts from a speed shop and make them work. If i could get OMP - i would rather use them is the reason i am asking. Life is so much easier with the correct part. Any help would be appreciated. (TIA) Vigil So Cal ____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on online degrees and make up to $150K/ year. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nlXFn77qAOf1w91XInI0kaiDcX Ae4rjapmWR1YLdLyHAbec/ From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 6 19:14:07 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 18:14:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Webber 40 side draft - Question References: <198690.47838.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <066a01c8dfce$c204a340$4e947e4c@HP> Here is a link to a page with various combinations of engine and Weber(s) http://www.teglerizer.com/dcoe/dcoepictures.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Vigil" Cc: "spridgets" ; "Morris Motors" ; "Sprite" ; "Midget/Sprite" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Webber 40 side draft - Question > > > Group, > > Any one out there running a Weber 40 side draft carb. > I would like to find out what you are using in the set up. I am hoping to > find > some one with a street motor. I am putting the manifold and carb on a what > is > thought to be a stock 1275cc motor. To many owners before him to know for > sure. But it does not sound like it has a cam and the head looks stock. I > know > there are several variables when setting up a Weber. I just need some > setting > for reference points. needles, jets and any thing else you feel would put > me > in the right direction. > > Thanks again, > > Vigil > So Cal > Vigil > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 6 19:26:42 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:26:42 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Webber 40 side draft - Question Message-ID: Vigil... Vizard shows following for stock 1275 with "modified" head (not specific on this) utilizing 40DCOE (intake manifold not specified): Chokes 35 Aux. Vents. 4.5 Emulsion Tubes F16 Main Jets 145 Air Corr's. 180 Idle Jets 50F2 Pump Jets 45 CapBob -----Original Message----- From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 7:57 PM To: Vigil Cc: Morris Motors, spridgets, Sprite, Midget/Sprite Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Webber 40 side draft - Question o?= o?= Group, o?= Any one out there running a Weber 40 side draft carb. I would like to find out what you are using in the set up. I am hoping to find some one with a street motor. I am putting the manifold and carb on a what is thought to be a stock 1275cco?=motor. To many owners before him to know for sure. But it does not sound like it has a cam and the head looks stock. I know there are several variables when setting up a Weber. I just need some setting for reference points.o?=needles, jets and any thing else you feel would put me in the righto?=directiono?= o?= Thanks again, o?= Vigil So Calo?= Vigilo?= [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From franks97 at verizon.net Sun Jul 6 20:38:19 2008 From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 19:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Hub Source Message-ID: Anyone on the list have a source for disc wheel front hubs? I can9t seem to find anyone who has them. BTW, the Portland Historics are this coming weekend and Group 7 has a good contingent of of Spridgets this year. -- David Franks franks97 at verizon.net 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 6 20:51:30 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 19:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Primrose In-Reply-To: <20080706.102540.7119.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <489264.56813.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't know about primrose, but a friend of mine is restoring an orange rubber bumper car. He swears he has rattle can Chevy engine orange that is a dead ringer. Apparently the car does not need paint on the parts of the body you see, but he's using it in the engine compartment, interior, underside, and anyplace else he's needed to paint. Not sure the brand he found, but I can check if anybody needs to know. - David Long Island --- On Sun, 7/6/08, cclabaw at juno.com wrote: From: cclabaw at juno.com Subject: [Spridgets] Primrose To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 12:25 PM Listers - Now that the OEW frenzy has subsided, can anyone suggest a rattle-can paint that's a reasonable match to the 'Primrose' used on my '67 Sprite. I don't need a perfect match, just a good "ten foot" touch-up until the body work is done. Clay L. ____________________________________________________________ Win the battle of the bulge with great liposuction solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nELSxUegvAf77SUZ7dlBGanQ5f XEVKxtUGqU3cdLBTBwvS0/ You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 6 22:15:17 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 22:15:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <025201c8dfe8$1061c9f0$6501a8c0@shop> Snide comments ignored Brad, BUT... << It handles a treat, especially when you are going almost twice the posted speed limit, on a twisty road in Missouri.>> Does that mean at the autox & funkana site you went down the road to the RIGHT (from entrance) that went to the Marina??? I ran it THREE times just for GRINS!!!! I had the Camino up to a tad over 70 on that FANTASTIC road!!!! Dam* it was FUN!!! Spridget must have been HEAVEN!! From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 6 21:38:21 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:38:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS! Message-ID: <232264386.20080706203821@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/alka_seltzer_kitten?size=_original -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I'm the presenter of the South Bank Show," Melvyn bragged. From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 6 21:54:48 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 20:54:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Webber 40 side draft - Question References: <198690.47838.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06b301c8dfe5$33fd6b10$4e947e4c@HP> Here is a link to a page with various combinations of engine and Weber(s) http://www.teglerizer.com/dcoe/dcoepictures.htm From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 22:17:41 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:17:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <025201c8dfe8$1061c9f0$6501a8c0@shop> References: <000f01c8de95$9f2514c0$1002a8c0@TRACY> <025201c8dfe8$1061c9f0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807062117q4d65d264q459337f36fb104e@mail.gmail.com> Ed, You should have gone to Ha Ha Tonka State Park on county road D and thence up to the castle. You would have put the El Camino into the trees down there.... Cheers!! Jim On 7/6/08, Ed's Shop wrote: > > Snide comments ignored Brad, BUT... > > << It handles a treat, especially when you are going almost twice the > posted speed > limit, on a twisty road in Missouri.>> > > Does that mean at the autox & funkana site you went down the road to the > RIGHT (from entrance) that went to the Marina??? I ran it THREE times just > for GRINS!!!! > > I had the Camino up to a tad over 70 on that FANTASTIC road!!!! > Dam* it was FUN!!! Spridget must have been HEAVEN!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 6 22:19:45 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:19:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS! In-Reply-To: <232264386.20080706203821@pacifier.com> References: <232264386.20080706203821@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807062119u23a1dc2coe2e83e7c6471e467@mail.gmail.com> Oh, MAN!! I don't care for cats, but that is just BRUTAL!! Cheers!! Jim On 7/6/08, Bill L wrote: > > Hello Spridgets, > > > > http://adsoftheworld.com/media/print/alka_seltzer_kitten?size=_original > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "I'm the presenter of the South Bank Show," Melvyn bragged. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Jul 6 22:55:39 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:55:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget In-Reply-To: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 before I waste time looking at a parts car near my house? Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 6 23:15:41 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:15:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front Hub Source In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Have you tried AH Spares? http://www.ahspares.co.uk/ Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 6, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Franks wrote: > Anyone on the list have a source for disc wheel front hubs? I can9t > seem to > find anyone who has them. > > BTW, the Portland Historics are this coming weekend and Group 7 has > a good > contingent of of Spridgets this year. > > > -- > David Franks > franks97 at verizon.net > 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 7 00:04:51 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:04:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> Message-ID: <00d801c8dff7$5f4eb910$01fea8c0@C600> 1275, unless some idiot changed it. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 before I waste > time looking at a parts car near my house? > > Leo > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > 5:26 AM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 7 00:55:58 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 23:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <3366ca7bd4aab7cc8a12b10a.20080706235558.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> Now here's an unusual Nasty Boy FS. No financial interest, just cruising Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/5l7mkn Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 7 05:41:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:41:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> Message-ID: <344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 Leo, Yes. If it still has chrome bumpers, it is a 1275 (and RWA). The last batch of 1974 Midgets had rubber bumpers and 1500 engines (and SWA). They also had dual HS4 carbs rather than the single ZS carb. Check it out. If it is the dual-carb 1500, let people know. David From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 05:41:27 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:41:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget Message-ID: <070720081141.19199.487200E70005989100004AFF2216538496000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> I have a '74 made 8/74 and it is still a 1275. I dont think they went to 1500's till they put the rubber bumpers on in 75 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kate" > 1275, unless some idiot changed it. > > Kate > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > To: "'Spridgets'" > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:55 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget > > > > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 before I waste > > time looking at a parts car near my house? > > > > Leo > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 > > 5:26 AM > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From: "Kate" To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 06:05:54 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 05:57:17 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 07:57:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: The door is fine. It is an old heavy wood double door. The opener seems to be malfunctioning or getting stray signals that are interfering with it. It is an old Stanley chain drive. What is the electric eye system? The car was halfway out, so an "eye" slightly above floor level wouldn't have done any good. ( I just answered my own question, didn't I? Mount it higher. )) I'll check that out. Thnaks! _____ From: dmeadow at juno.com [mailto:dmeadow at juno.com] Sent: July 6, 2008 8:47 PM To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door Are you talking about the garage door itself malfunctioning or a garage door opener? If it was the opener, did it not have an electric eye safety system? I just installed a neat opener made by Liftmaster. It is their model 3800 and it works by turning the bar above the door (called a Jackshaft type) rather than the traditional type that pulls the door up. You mount it to the wall next to the door rather in the middle of the ceiling. It is easier to mount and doesn't clutter up your ceiling area, which was important for me as I have a lift that a traditional style would have interfered with. David -- "Robert Duquette" wrote: Panic set in as I had the Midget pushed halfway out of the garage today, so that I could get a ladder out, and the garage door started to close. I ran and pulled the string which I thought was the emergency stop and pulled it right out and watched the door hit the windshield and bounce back. Mentally, the blue words were flying. There is some white paint on the glass and everything else looked okay, but I didn't look closely, as I wanted to calm down first. The door had been acting up a bit and a new one has been added to my to do list. You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click to become a master chef, own a restaurant and make millions. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 7 06:06:04 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 05:06:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> You might want to rig something safer until you replace the door. Don't want any kids getting caught in there. ...bill ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:57 AM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The door is fine. It is an old heavy wood double door. The opener seems to be malfunctioning or getting stray signals that are interfering with it. It is an old Stanley chain drive. What is the electric eye system? The car was halfway out, so an "eye" slightly above floor level wouldn't have done any good. ( I just answered my own question, didn't I? Mount it higher. )) I'll check that out. Thnaks! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 07:08:38 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:08:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget In-Reply-To: <344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> <344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> Message-ID: I was offered a 74 Midget that was a rubber bumper car, with a 1275 in it, for $400 a few years ago. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:41 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 >> > > Leo, > Yes. If it still has chrome bumpers, it is a 1275 (and RWA). The last batch > of 1974 Midgets > had rubber bumpers and 1500 engines (and SWA). They also had dual HS4 carbs > rather > than the single ZS carb. Check it out. If it is the dual-carb 1500, let > people know. > David > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 7 07:43:20 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 08:43:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> <344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> Message-ID: >I was offered a 74 Midget that was a rubber bumper car, with a 1275 in it, > for $400 a few years ago. In another five years, someone will sel that car at Barrett-Jackson for 50G and you will be kicking yourself ;-) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 07:50:39 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:50:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> <004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> Message-ID: Thanks for the thought, but the garage is completely my domain. No-one else goes there. Also, it's not like the door fell down. It powered down. I opened it; had time to go in, crabwalk to the back of the car; push it halfway out; go back; grab the stepladder; and then I heard the sound of the door starting to close ... If I had been smarter, I would have pulled the plug instead of the ( what I think is ) the emergency stop cord, but it happened so fast ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: July 7, 2008 8:06 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door You might want to rig something safer until you replace the door. Don't want any kids getting caught in there. ...bill ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:57 AM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The door is fine. It is an old heavy wood double door. The opener seems to be malfunctioning or getting stray signals that are interfering with it. It is an old Stanley chain drive. What is the electric eye system? The car was halfway out, so an "eye" slightly above floor level wouldn't have done any good. ( I just answered my own question, didn't I? Mount it higher. )) I'll check that out. Thnaks! You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 07:52:58 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:52:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget In-Reply-To: References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2><000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net><344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> Message-ID: Are we talking about the same thing here? Did you see the car? Didn't '74 have those huge rubber blocks on a chrome bumper? -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal I was offered a 74 Midget that was a rubber bumper car, with a 1275 in it, for $400 a few years ago. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:41 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 >> > > Leo, > Yes. If it still has chrome bumpers, it is a 1275 (and RWA). The last batch > of 1974 Midgets > had rubber bumpers and 1500 engines (and SWA). They also had dual HS4 carbs > rather > than the single ZS carb. Check it out. If it is the dual-carb 1500, let > people know. > David From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Mon Jul 7 07:58:39 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 14:58:39 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Powered garage doors? - there's a novel idea! How do you get the car out when there is a power cut? Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: 07 July 2008 14:51 To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door Thanks for the thought, but the garage is completely my domain. No-one else goes there. Also, it's not like the door fell down. It powered down. I opened it; had time to go in, crabwalk to the back of the car; push it halfway out; go back; grab the stepladder; and then I heard the sound of the door starting to close ... If I had been smarter, I would have pulled the plug instead of the ( what I think is ) the emergency stop cord, but it happened so fast ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: July 7, 2008 8:06 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door You might want to rig something safer until you replace the door. Don't want any kids getting caught in there. ...bill ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:57 AM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The door is fine. It is an old heavy wood double door. The opener seems to be malfunctioning or getting stray signals that are interfering with it. It is an old Stanley chain drive. What is the electric eye system? The car was halfway out, so an "eye" slightly above floor level wouldn't have done any good. ( I just answered my own question, didn't I? Mount it higher. )) I'll check that out. Thnaks! You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 08:08:26 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:08:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I thought of that the other day when the power was off for a few hours. I think that it can be done with a bit of muscle, but, my family car doesn't fit in the garage, so we can use that. When a spring broke, when we first bought this old house, the repair guy showed up and told me that I couldn't lift that big door by myself and then later on, he did. He is substantially smaller than I am, but I'm not going to try it unless I have to. :) -----Original Message----- From: Guy Weller Powered garage doors? - there's a novel idea! How do you get the car out when there is a power cut? Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: 07 July 2008 14:51 To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door Thanks for the thought, but the garage is completely my domain. No-one else goes there. Also, it's not like the door fell down. It powered down. I opened it; had time to go in, crabwalk to the back of the car; push it halfway out; go back; grab the stepladder; and then I heard the sound of the door starting to close ... If I had been smarter, I would have pulled the plug instead of the ( what I think is ) the emergency stop cord, but it happened so fast ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: July 7, 2008 8:06 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door You might want to rig something safer until you replace the door. Don't want any kids getting caught in there. ...bill ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:57 AM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The door is fine. It is an old heavy wood double door. The opener seems to be malfunctioning or getting stray signals that are interfering with it. It is an old Stanley chain drive. What is the electric eye system? The car was halfway out, so an "eye" slightly above floor level wouldn't have done any good. ( I just answered my own question, didn't I? Mount it higher. )) I'll check that out. Thnaks! You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 7 08:53:15 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:53:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: Message-ID: <7516AC1C68D14A218339996DC83212C8@NilesAD.von.gov> > Powered garage doors? - there's a novel idea! > How do you get the car out when there is a power cut? On mine, there is a release similar to what Robert was describing which allows me to disconnect the opener from the door, which reverts it to manual open and close (but still assisted by the springs). I don't recall ever needing to use it for that, however, as our power is seldom cut. Are you seriously telling us that these are not commonplace in England? Few garages here that don't have them. David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 08:53:47 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget In-Reply-To: References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net> <344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> Message-ID: It was a TRUE FULL RUBBER BUMPER CAR!!! I had to open the hood, to convince myself it didn't have the 1500 in it. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Are we talking about the same thing here? Did you see the car? > > Didn't '74 have those huge rubber blocks on a chrome bumper? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Fornal > > I was offered a 74 Midget that was a rubber bumper car, with a 1275 in it, > for $400 a few years ago. > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:41 AM, David Lieb > wrote: > > > Would a 1974 Midget have a 1275 in it or would it be a 1500 > >> > > > > Leo, > > Yes. If it still has chrome bumpers, it is a 1275 (and RWA). The last > batch > > of 1974 Midgets > > had rubber bumpers and 1500 engines (and SWA). They also had dual HS4 > carbs > > rather > > than the single ZS carb. Check it out. If it is the dual-carb 1500, let > > people know. > > David > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 7 10:19:08 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:19:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget References: <002b01c8df27$bab2d5a0$0400a8c0@blackbox2><000901c8dfed$b452af20$1cf80d60$@net><344D82E9C7C846A2A9E95054CEBAE0BF@midget> Message-ID: <004d01c8e04d$2f78d210$01fea8c0@C600> Yes. Kate > Didn't '74 have those huge rubber blocks on a chrome bumper? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 10:20:51 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:20:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> <004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807070920j59b586c3ubc99bfcd23490120@mail.gmail.com> I'm a bit short and have to almost jump to reach those release cords but even my old Craftsman door opener (without an electronic eye) will still reverse if it hits something hard enough. For that reason on the rare occasion my door would start to close undesirably I'd run to the door and pull/push up on it to make it reverse direction. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Also, it's not like the door fell down. It powered down. I opened it; had > time to go in, crabwalk to the back of the car; push it halfway out; go > back; grab the stepladder; and then I heard the sound of the door starting > to close ... If I had been smarter, I would have pulled the plug instead > of > the ( what I think is ) the emergency stop cord, but it happened so fast > ... From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 10:27:39 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:27:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 MG midget Message-ID: <070720081627.14456.487243FB000AE67D000038782216538496000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Unless you pull the sabrina's off and replace them with the smaller overriders : -) -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Kate" > Yes. > > Kate > > > Didn't '74 have those huge rubber blocks on a chrome bumper? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 10:29:46 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:29:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> The first time we had a spring break both cars were in the garage and we ended up using numerous pieces of lumber, prybars, and automotive jacks to get that heavy wooden door open so I could get to work. The second time our van was outside so we just used that until the repair guy came by. He had a jack similar to an old bumper jack that did the work for him rather quickly. One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the door to operate unintentionally. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I thought of that the other day when the power was off for a few hours. I > think that it can be done with a bit of muscle, but, my family car doesn't > fit in the garage, so we can use that. When a spring broke, when we first > bought this old house, the repair guy showed up and told me that I couldn't > lift that big door by myself and then later on, he did. He is > substantially > smaller than I am, but I'm not going to try it unless I have to. :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 10:33:56 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:33:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0807070920j59b586c3ubc99bfcd23490120@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com> <004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> <8de85a9c0807070920j59b586c3ubc99bfcd23490120@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Mine works that way too, but there was no way to get to it quickly enough. My garage is . well . I'm a packrat. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/AfterReorg2.jpg _____ From: Jethro (JFoster) [mailto:tr3.4.me at gmail.com] Sent: July 7, 2008 12:21 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door I'm a bit short and have to almost jump to reach those release cords but even my old Craftsman door opener (without an electronic eye) will still reverse if it hits something hard enough. For that reason on the rare occasion my door would start to close undesirably I'd run to the door and pull/push up on it to make it reverse direction. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: Also, it's not like the door fell down. It powered down. I opened it; had time to go in, crabwalk to the back of the car; push it halfway out; go back; grab the stepladder; and then I heard the sound of the door starting to close ... If I had been smarter, I would have pulled the plug instead of the ( what I think is ) the emergency stop cord, but it happened so fast ... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 10:36:06 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:36:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It is old. _____ From: Jethro (JFoster) [mailto:tr3.4.me at gmail.com] Sent: July 7, 2008 12:30 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The first time we had a spring break both cars were in the garage and we ended up using numerous pieces of lumber, prybars, and automotive jacks to get that heavy wooden door open so I could get to work. The second time our van was outside so we just used that until the repair guy came by. He had a jack similar to an old bumper jack that did the work for him rather quickly. One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the door to operate unintentionally. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: I thought of that the other day when the power was off for a few hours. I think that it can be done with a bit of muscle, but, my family car doesn't fit in the garage, so we can use that. When a spring broke, when we first bought this old house, the repair guy showed up and told me that I couldn't lift that big door by myself and then later on, he did. He is substantially smaller than I am, but I'm not going to try it unless I have to. :) From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 7 10:56:54 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:56:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com><004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider> <8de85a9c0807070920j59b586c3ubc99bfcd23490120@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I keep hearing people to the red handle cord as an emergency "stop" or "release" cord. It disconnects the door from the drive. If you haven't set the balance spring correctly, pulling the cord simply lets the door fall or rise without any interference from the motor, eliminating any chance for the auto-safety mechanism to work. If the springs heven't enough tension to balance the door's weight, then pulling the red handle will send the dorr straight down onto whatever is below it. Set the balance springs to more than equal the door's weight, and pulling the handle will let the door go right back up. Good failsafe. This refers only to the sectional doors that go up into tracks and have a big coiled spring residing above the door. The normal single panel door can also be adjusted with the correct springs to weigh "less" or "more" to suit. With the automatic opener on a single panel door, I'd use strong springs that tend to open the door if it isn't held shut. Tho opener will have to work to close it, but a failure or red handle pull will not send the door crashing down on you or your precious LBC. Glen Byrns From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 7 11:00:17 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:00:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com> Sometimes "kids" will drive through neighborhoods trying their garage door openers... I mean, how many frequencies can there be? Sometimes it works....... or so I've been told. Anon == At 11:36 AM 7/7/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >It is old. > >One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older >opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the >door to operate unintentionally. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 11:13:28 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:13:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com> References: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Billions of codes on the new ones. Somehow they generate a new code every time. On my old dinosaur there are 10 dip switches? I was thinking that I must be getting stray signals from somewhere ... I tried to disassemble the key pad without any good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Peter C Sometimes "kids" will drive through neighborhoods trying their garage door openers... I mean, how many frequencies can there be? Sometimes it works....... or so I've been told. Anon == At 11:36 AM 7/7/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >It is old. > >One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older >opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the >door to operate unintentionally. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 7 11:15:57 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:15:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] garage door Message-ID: Guy, Remember most if not all of these guys have back-up generators! W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 07/07/2008 15:53:41 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > Powered garage doors? - there's a novel idea! > How do you get the car out when there is a power cut? On mine, there is a release similar to what Robert was describing which allows me to disconnect the opener from the door, which reverts it to manual open and close (but still assisted by the springs). I don't recall ever needing to use it for that, however, as our power is seldom cut. Are you seriously telling us that these are not commonplace in England? Few garages here that don't have them. David Lieb From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 7 12:37:31 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:37:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: Message-ID: <01ea01c8e060$84a3d1f0$6501a8c0@shop> <> In our DREAMS, Daniel!!! I'll bet the majority do NOT have one!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 7 11:48:34 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:48:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: Message-ID: > Remember most if not all of these guys have back-up generators! I don't think so. From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 7 11:50:06 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:50:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: , <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com>, Message-ID: <4871F4DE.15635.D502B3@dmg.bossig.com> On 7 Jul 2008 at 13:13, Robert Duquette wrote: >> On my old dinosaur there are 10 dip switches? Same as mine.. but remember, 10 dip switches gives 1 billion possible combinates (if you include all down and all up)... Otherwise you only get 999,999,998 combinations... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Jul 7 11:55:50 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:55:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1BE3DFCA-A579-48AE-A663-C83345BF1413@dartmouth.edu> Somehow the subject phrase "A(nother) use for CATS" seems like an oxymoron to me.... The suggestion that there is a valid use for them in the first place makes me chuckle. -m From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 12:25:22 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <831882.14072.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> As a side note to those who have automatic garage door openers and windows in the garage door, it is very easy for someone to break the window and reach in a trip the emergency release and then just open the door. While on extended trips away from my house I remove all the openers from the remaining vehicles and then use padlocks on the door tracks so the door can't opened either by the above method or by someone roaming the neighbor randomly trying different openers.... Bob --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Glen Byrns wrote: From: Glen Byrns Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door To: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 12:56 PM I keep hearing people to the red handle cord as an emergency "stop" or "release" cord. It disconnects the door from the drive. If you haven't set the balance spring correctly, pulling the cord simply lets the door fall or rise without any interference from the motor, eliminating any chance for the auto-safety mechanism to work. If the springs heven't enough tension to balance the door's weight, then pulling the red handle will send the dorr straight down onto whatever is below it. Set the balance springs to more than equal the door's weight, and pulling the handle will let the door go right back up. Good failsafe. This refers only to the sectional doors that go up into tracks and have a big coiled spring residing above the door. The normal single panel door can also be adjusted with the correct springs to weigh "less" or "more" to suit. With the automatic opener on a single panel door, I'd use strong springs that tend to open the door if it isn't held shut. Tho opener will have to work to close it, but a failure or red handle pull will not send the door crashing down on you or your precious LBC. Glen Byrns You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jul 7 12:26:43 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com> References: <8de85a9c0807070929n46c894besfb8c9092586c26d0@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6t8l1l$4jfpg4@email.mtu.edu> There is a way to replace the dip switch on a standard door opener with a circuit that automatically tries all the combinations i a relatively short amount of time. You can find the circuit diagram on the web. However, the new openers change the code each time the door is used so there isn't one stagnant code for the opener. At 01:00 PM 7/7/2008, Peter C wrote: >Sometimes "kids" will drive through neighborhoods trying their garage >door openers... I mean, how many frequencies can there be? > >Sometimes it works....... or so I've been told. > >Anon >== > >At 11:36 AM 7/7/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > >It is old. > > > >One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older > >opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the > >door to operate unintentionally. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Jul 7 12:31:43 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <4871F4DE.15635.D502B3@dmg.bossig.com> References: , <7.0.1.0.2.20080707115744.03b4ca08@nosimport.com>, <4871F4DE.15635.D502B3@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: No sorry, 10 dip switches will give you 1024 codes 0-1023 or 2^9 if you prefer. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:50 To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door On 7 Jul 2008 at 13:13, Robert Duquette wrote: >> On my old dinosaur there are 10 dip switches? Same as mine.. but remember, 10 dip switches gives 1 billion possible combinates (if you include all down and all up)... Otherwise you only get 999,999,998 combinations... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 05:26 From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 7 12:43:19 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:43:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: References: , <4871F4DE.15635.D502B3@dmg.bossig.com>, Message-ID: <48720157.27261.105BDCC@dmg.bossig.com> Duncan, You right, Me wrong... Forgot it's Binary... Note to self... Make sure brain is in gear before engaging fingers !! Time for a cup of coffee..... On 7 Jul 2008 at 13:31, Duncan Sinclair wrote: >> 10 dip switches will give you 1024 codes 0-1023 or 2^9 if you prefer. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." Terry Pratchett, 'Hogfather' From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 12:58:30 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <191981.71461.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought the old models did not use all the dip switch's. I believe my old unit only uses the last four. it is a old Stanley too. I do not think any one wants my door open with out one of us home. The dogs do not like strangers visiting. Only the single door is wood. The two car is the new light weight aluminum. I have pulled the release on the big door when the power was out and lifted the door with no problem. Vigil --- On Mon, 7/7/08, Robert Duquette wrote: From: Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door To: "'Spridgets'" Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 9:36 AM It is old. _____ From: Jethro (JFoster) [mailto:tr3.4.me at gmail.com] Sent: July 7, 2008 12:30 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door The first time we had a spring break both cars were in the garage and we ended up using numerous pieces of lumber, prybars, and automotive jacks to get that heavy wooden door open so I could get to work. The second time our van was outside so we just used that until the repair guy came by. He had a jack similar to an old bumper jack that did the work for him rather quickly. One other thought is have you checked the control switch? If it's an older opener and control maybe the contacts and just getting weak and causing the door to operate unintentionally. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: I thought of that the other day when the power was off for a few hours. I think that it can be done with a bit of muscle, but, my family car doesn't fit in the garage, so we can use that. When a spring broke, when we first bought this old house, the repair guy showed up and told me that I couldn't lift that big door by myself and then later on, he did. He is substantially smaller than I am, but I'm not going to try it unless I have to. :) You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 7 13:03:45 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <831882.14072.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <831882.14072.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <22cea53d9a7c74aca8a.20080707120345.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> All this talk about random number codes and someone cruising neighborhoods trying to open your garage door with their remote. When I went to LotO last week I simply unplugged the garage door opener rendering it inoperative with the door closed. I also have a sensor on the side entry door to the garage for my home security system. I also have a sensor on the laundry room door leading to the garage from inside the house. The only way in without setting off the alarm and sending for the cops is through the metal roll up garage door. I don't think they will try to break in that way as they are exposed to the whole neighborhood. It might take some time and effort to open this metal door. Most burglars want a quick easy entry without disturbing the neighbors. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Bob Van Kirk > As a side note to those who have automatic garage door openers and > windows in > the garage door, it is very easy for someone to break the window and reach > in > a trip the emergency release and then just open the door. While on > extended > trips away from my house I remove all the openers from the remaining > vehicles > and then use padlocks on the door tracks so the door can't opened either > by > the above method or by someone roaming the neighbor randomly trying > different > openers.... > Bob From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 7 14:27:32 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:27:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <22cea53d9a7c74aca8a.20080707120345.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> References: <831882.14072.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <22cea53d9a7c74aca8a.20080707120345.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Speaking of break ins ... someone kicked in the front door of my retired neighbour last week during mid afternoon. He had gone out for a haircut and hadn't set the alarm. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sent: July 7, 2008 3:04 PM To: racerbob70 at yahoo.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door All this talk about random number codes and someone cruising neighborhoods trying to open your garage door with their remote. When I went to LotO last week I simply unplugged the garage door opener rendering it inoperative with the door closed. I also have a sensor on the side entry door to the garage for my home security system. I also have a sensor on the laundry room door leading to the garage from inside the house. The only way in without setting off the alarm and sending for the cops is through the metal roll up garage door. I don't think they will try to break in that way as they are exposed to the whole neighborhood. It might take some time and effort to open this metal door. Most burglars want a quick easy entry without disturbing the neighbors. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Bob Van Kirk > As a side note to those who have automatic garage door openers and > windows in > the garage door, it is very easy for someone to break the window and reach > in > a trip the emergency release and then just open the door. While on > extended > trips away from my house I remove all the openers from the remaining > vehicles > and then use padlocks on the door tracks so the door can't opened either > by > the above method or by someone roaming the neighbor randomly trying > different > openers.... > Bob You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Mon Jul 7 14:37:19 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:37:19 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door In-Reply-To: <7516AC1C68D14A218339996DC83212C8@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8438AF8DC7464C85809E8F1F5F18365C@GuyLaptop> I will admit that they are probably more commonplace than I realise, although I don't know of anyone who has a powered garage door. One neighbour has powered driveway gates, but they always stand open anyway. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: 07 July 2008 15:53 To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door > Powered garage doors? - there's a novel idea! > How do you get the car out when there is a power cut? On mine, there is a release similar to what Robert was describing which allows me to disconnect the opener from the door, which reverts it to manual open and close (but still assisted by the springs). I don't recall ever needing to use it for that, however, as our power is seldom cut. Are you seriously telling us that these are not commonplace in England? Few garages here that don't have them. David Lieb You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jul 7 16:07:59 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:07:59 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: <8438AF8DC7464C85809E8F1F5F18365C@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <4B744588468B4D98907A9BAE6296DB3C@TAIRS> One of the two roller shutter doors on the front of my garage at home is powered using a spring loaded counterbalence system in the middle of the roller along with the motor. In the event of a power failure a handle disconnects the motor from the door and you can operate it by lifting and pulling down by hand. It has a 'bump and lift' system if it gets stopped part way down. I can stand underneath it and let the door hit my shoulder and it will stop and lift without any pain (I don't test it often!). Father-in-laws garage door is a spring assisted 'up and over' powered system using cogs and a chain. This too has a little red handle to disconnect the chain from the door. That can be hand lifted. My mothers garage door is a multi panel slide to the side opening thing that has toothed cogs at the top and is a real pain as the doors tilt as it opens and the slightest thing on the bottom track wedges it. It is an older 1950's or 60's system and is outdated and probably the top track has dropped slightly. That's why her car tends to stay outside! Mine and father-in-law's have a remote transmitter using a 10 two position dip switch thing on mine and an 8 triple position on father in law's. There are push button operating switches in the garage. Mothers is a key switch on the external garage wall and a red and green button switch inside. Now the burglars know what we have, they are all alarmed and if they can get mother's to work she would be greatful. The old works roller shutter door was decent and would open when a car approached (radar system) on the inside and this was repeated for vehicles coming from outside but this could leave a bit of a security gap. They also had keypad operation and a chain and pulley system for when they failed. There is the odd one or two powered door in the UK. Guy R Day ps Many powered gates have a hydraulic systems that are modelled on Spridget hydraulics. That's why they don't work very well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'David Lieb'" ; "'Spridget List'" Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] garage door >I will admit that they are probably more commonplace than I realise, > although I don't know of anyone who has a powered garage door. One > neighbour > has powered driveway gates, but they always stand open anyway. > > Guy From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 7 17:53:36 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:53:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: <1BE3DFCA-A579-48AE-A663-C83345BF1413@dartmouth.edu> References: <1BE3DFCA-A579-48AE-A663-C83345BF1413@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <547812621.20080707165336@pacifier.com> Hello Mark, The #1 use if as wheel chocks, of course.. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "I'm embarrassed," Tom admitted readily. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 7 19:36:54 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:36:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] garage door References: <20080706.194636.8220.0@webmail21.vgs.untd.com><004001c8e029$d5add780$731bf304@spider><8de85a9c0807070920j59b586c3ubc99bfcd23490120@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007a01c8e09b$1ad134d0$6501a8c0@shop> <> AND RD, garage looks EXACTLY like it did a few days after you moved in !!! 'Member, you sent me a couple pics?? LOL !! He IS folks, a died in the wool 'packrat'!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 7 19:44:05 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 19:44:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS! References: <232264386.20080706203821@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <008d01c8e09c$1b6c9500$6501a8c0@shop> <> I for one would MUCH rather have had a REAL, LEATHER gauntlet type glove on, Bill !!!! , but "purrfect" use of said "cat"!!! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 21:02:53 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 23:02:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <003101c8e0a7$1dec6110$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Hey Biff.. What about this...? http://rubbercal.com/Z_Grip_Photo.html I believe it is about 6 ribs per inch...assuming I have done my geometry/measurements correct.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers >I have a few pieces of original door liner material and it has 6 "ribs" per > inch, not 9. > And while the stuff you can buy has square ribs the original material has > round top ribs with the lowest points being an acute angle. > It's hard to describe but sorta of like an upside down U's connected with > V's . From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Jul 7 21:27:13 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:27:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In-Reply-To: <003101c8e0a7$1dec6110$0400a8c0@blackbox2> References: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <003101c8e0a7$1dec6110$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <000501c8e0aa$839ff6e0$8adfe4a0$@net> In a day or so I should hopefully have my hands on some more of the door liner material I tracked down when I did Iris's doors. The rib count is 7 ribs per inch, vinyl (not rubber so you can use a vinyl dye such as ones made by SEM). The tips are pretty much pointed as I could NOT find the rounded edges anywhere. The stock I located hadnt been made since the late 70's but I am hoping there is some more in his old stock (just have to Tlk him into letting me dig through it). Installed it looks better than lots I have seen and best of all the color doesnt peel off. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 10:03 PM To: Biff Jones; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers Hey Biff.. What about this...? http://rubbercal.com/Z_Grip_Photo.html I believe it is about 6 ribs per inch...assuming I have done my geometry/measurements correct.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers >I have a few pieces of original door liner material and it has 6 "ribs" per > inch, not 9. > And while the stuff you can buy has square ribs the original material has > round top ribs with the lowest points being an acute angle. > It's hard to describe but sorta of like an upside down U's connected with > V's . You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1538 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 7:40 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1538 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 7:40 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Jul 7 21:41:02 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 22:41:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget Message-ID: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> If anyone out there has a need for parts off a 1974 MG Midget such as ribcase trans, doors, windshield glass and frame, trunk lid, side marker lights, body trim, gauges , or most any engine bay parts such as heater, etc.. e-mail me off line. Will be picking up the car Wednesday and all I want is the engine (1275) and the front disk brake setup. All the rest needs to go. Little by little am going to start gathering the bits for a driver J See what you did to me a LOTODamn well corrupted me!!! Turned me into one of those heathens. BUT HEY Sure feels fun when the car runs and drives like you stole it. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1538 - Release Date: 7/7/2008 7:40 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 7 22:08:57 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:08:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget In-Reply-To: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> References: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> Message-ID: <1714191278.20080707210857@pacifier.com> Hello Leo, the "value" is IN THE DRIVING!... not the CAR! .. IMHO! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "I tried to think but nothing happened!" - Curly From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 7 22:19:52 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 00:19:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <003101c8e0a7$1dec6110$0400a8c0@blackbox2> <000501c8e0aa$839ff6e0$8adfe4a0$@net> Message-ID: <005f01c8e0b1$df5c23d0$0400a8c0@blackbox2> I think I am going with the z-grip Leo. I want black and I won't need to dye it. It looks like the outfit does small amounts. I'll call them tomorrow and see. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "'Dean Hedin'" ; "'Biff Jones'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:27 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers In a day or so I should hopefully have my hands on some more of the door liner material I tracked down when I did Iris's doors. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 8 09:14:44 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:14:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? Message-ID: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> Hey ALL, Is the list down? Kevin V. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 8 09:18:15 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:18:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? References: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <824CDAD19BDC4CA08FA57F5297499801@NilesAD.von.gov> > Hey ALL, > > Is the list down? Nope. I guess we ran out of things to say ;-) From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 8 10:24:19 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:24:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? References: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <010901c8e117$13673f10$6501a8c0@shop> <> Nope, Kev! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 8 09:47:31 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? In-Reply-To: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: Define 'down'. You know ... lately, as I've been aging, I haven't been feeling as good as I used to ... :) There was a cartoon similar to the above that I saw a while back. It was ( I think ) someone saying "computer's down again" and the computer's voice balloon saying something like what I tried to repeat. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "K. Valentine" To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:14:44 -0400 Hey ALL, Is the list down? Kevin V. You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jul 8 10:23:32 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:23:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? In-Reply-To: <824CDAD19BDC4CA08FA57F5297499801@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> <824CDAD19BDC4CA08FA57F5297499801@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <2D875700-AEF6-46CF-929A-B15BC93C3AC4@phillymgclub.com> 'bout time ;-) Ed On Jul 8, 2008, at 11:18 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> Hey ALL, >> >> Is the list down? > > Nope. I guess we ran out of things to say ;-) > _______________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 8 10:47:05 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 9:47:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters Message-ID: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the carbon filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? I intend to use a single weber carb. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 8 10:52:54 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:52:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters References: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Message-ID: > Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the > carbon filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? I intend to > use a single weber carb. Yes, you can, but you have to make some provision for venting the gas tank. I have drilled a couple of 1/8" holes through the metal plate on the inside of the gas cap in th epast. Not visible from the outside and perfectly effective. I suppose you could also get a replacement cap from a pre-emissions Spridget or use the one from your Heavey Healey ;-) Alternatively, you could vent the line that currently goes to the cannister in the boot, but then you could wind up with fumes in the boot and a lovely boot light switch that tends to spark... not the best of all possible configurations. David Lieb From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 8 10:54:35 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:54:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? Message-ID: Lucky computer??? In a message dated 08/07/2008 16:47:47 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: "computer's down again" From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 8 10:55:35 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation Message-ID: <12552348.1215536135573.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have a new one for you all to discuss. I did a partial restoration (actually more preservation) on my '61 Seven America. It has a blue top AC electric fuel pump. Before I took it apart and cleaned it, the pump was putting out the right amount of fuel pressure. My SUs were not overflowing out the holes at the top where the hose enters. Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter and stuff fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. WHat have I done besides fix what wasn't broken and now I'm screwed? Thanks, Mike C ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 11:16:13 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? In-Reply-To: References: <123FD9FF-EC72-43B4-91F5-F7482F4A3F2F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: Or...... What do a blonde and a computer have in common? You never really appreciate them, till they go down on you... Yeah, I know this isn't the 9issa joke list, but the moment seemed right.... On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Define 'down'. You know ... lately, as I've been aging, I haven't been > feeling as good as I used to ... :) > > There was a cartoon similar to the above that I saw a while back. It was ( > I think ) someone saying "computer's down again" and the computer's voice > balloon saying something like what I tried to repeat. > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "K. Valentine" > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] List Down? > Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:14:44 -0400 > > Hey ALL, > > Is the list down? > > Kevin V. > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 8 11:18:43 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:18:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Message-ID: > Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the carbon > filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? It depends on where you live, and whether you have to get it smogged. Here in the People's Republic of California, you're not allowed to mess with that stuff. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 11:20:03 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: References: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Message-ID: fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp switch to create a spark either. Brad On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the > > carbon filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? I intend > to > > use a single weber carb. > > Yes, you can, but you have to make some provision for venting the gas tank. > I have drilled a couple of 1/8" holes through the metal plate on the inside > of the gas cap in th epast. Not visible from the outside and perfectly > effective. I suppose you could also get a replacement cap from a > pre-emissions Spridget or use the one from your Heavey Healey ;-) > Alternatively, you could vent the line that currently goes to the cannister > in the boot, but then you could wind up with fumes in the boot and a lovely > boot light switch that tends to spark... not the best of all possible > configurations. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 11:21:15 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:21:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: References: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Message-ID: What a GREAT place to live..... (I kid, I kid. Hell, I just might visit the Communist Country of California someday. Maybe) On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the > carbon > > filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? > It depends on where you live, and whether you have to get it smogged. > Here in the People's Republic of California, you're not allowed to mess > with > that stuff. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 8 11:23:55 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:23:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> References: <20080708124705.FJD1O.78082.root@fepweb10> Message-ID: <013801c8e11f$677d4d80$731bf304@spider> Yes, I just took mine off. That'll last until the Feds track me down with an emissions test. ...bill in Oregon ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bighealey at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:47 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the carbon filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? I intend to use a single weber carb. You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 8 11:26:26 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:26:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation In-Reply-To: <12552348.1215536135573.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12552348.1215536135573.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <013901c8e11f$c1c0c150$731bf304@spider> Live and learn from the school of hard knocks. You probably loosened some stuff in the lines, and it is blocking both fuel bowl shutoff 'valves' open. ...bill in oregon -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:56 AM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation I have a new one for you all to discuss. I did a partial restoration (actually more preservation) on my '61 Seven America. It has a blue top AC electric fuel pump. Before I took it apart and cleaned it, the pump was putting out the right amount of fuel pressure. My SUs were not overflowing out the holes at the top where the hose enters. Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter and stuff fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. WHat have I done besides fix what wasn't broken and now I'm screwed? Thanks, Mike C _______________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 8 12:32:52 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:32:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ... into the tequila bar? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Brad Fornal" fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp switch to create a spark either. Brad On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:52 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > Can I eliminate the whole second fuel line mumbo-jumbo along with the > > carbon filter and vapor canister in the trunk of a 76 Midget? I intend > to > > use a single weber carb. > > Yes, you can, but you have to make some provision for venting the gas tank. > I have drilled a couple of 1/8" holes through the metal plate on the inside > of the gas cap in th epast. Not visible from the outside and perfectly > effective. I suppose you could also get a replacement cap from a > pre-emissions Spridget or use the one from your Heavey Healey ;-) > Alternatively, you could vent the line that currently goes to the cannister > in the boot, but then you could wind up with fumes in the boot and a lovely > boot light switch that tends to spark... not the best of all possible > configurations. > David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 8 12:48:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:48:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... or whatever the Spanish version of that is... And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais ou Pierre C. === At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >... into the tequila bar? > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Brad Fornal" > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp >switch to create a spark either. > >Brad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 12:55:52 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:55:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation In-Reply-To: <013901c8e11f$c1c0c150$731bf304@spider> References: <12552348.1215536135573.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <013901c8e11f$c1c0c150$731bf304@spider> Message-ID: Agreed.. remember, no good deed goes unpunished! Lester On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:26 PM, wrote: > Live and learn from the school of hard knocks. You probably > loosened some > stuff in the lines, and it is blocking both fuel bowl shutoff > 'valves' open. > ...bill in oregon > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of Mike/Donna Carpenter > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:56 AM > To: Spridget List > Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation > > I have a new one for you all to discuss. > > I did a partial restoration (actually more preservation) on my '61 > Seven > America. It has a blue top AC electric fuel pump. Before I took > it apart > and cleaned it, the pump was putting out the right amount of fuel > pressure. > My SUs were not overflowing out the holes at the top where the hose > enters. > Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter > and stuff > fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. > > WHat have I done besides fix what wasn't broken and now I'm screwed? > > Thanks, > Mike C > _______________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 13:37:06 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:37:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! I know a good tequila, and I don't pour a crap tequila (without a warning). I DO have Patron and Cuervo, but it is only poured, after the recipient is warned of it's nasty aftereffects. I have actually had people request that swill. Since I have some bottles that were gifts, I take them along from time to time. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Peter C wrote: > Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... > > or whatever the Spanish version of that is... > > And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais ou > > Pierre C. > === > At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > >... into the tequila bar? > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Brad Fornal" > > > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp > >switch to create a spark either. > > > >Brad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 8 13:42:06 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:42:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well ... I haven't found a Cuervo that I would buy for myself, but Patron makes a good anejo tequila, IMHO. What grade are you receiving as gifts? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Brad Fornal" MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! I know a good tequila, and I don't pour a crap tequila (without a warning). I DO have Patron and Cuervo, but it is only poured, after the recipient is warned of it's nasty aftereffects. I have actually had people request that swill. Since I have some bottles that were gifts, I take them along from time to time. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Peter C wrote: > Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... > > or whatever the Spanish version of that is... > > And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais ou > > Pierre C. > === > At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > >... into the tequila bar? > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Brad Fornal" > > > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp > >switch to create a spark either. > > > >Brad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 8 13:42:27 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation Message-ID: <19002424.1215546147464.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks all for all of your help. Couldn't make it without youins'. Can any of you all tell me whether the old "blue top" AC electric pumps were the proper pressure for our LBCs? I will have to control myself next winter and Spring! Just run her the way she is ;^). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Lester >Sent: Jul 8, 2008 2:55 PM >To: corvallis at peoplepc.com, corvallis at peoplepc.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation > >Agreed.. remember, no good deed goes unpunished! > >Lester > > >On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:26 PM, > wrote: > >> Live and learn from the school of hard knocks. You probably >> loosened some >> stuff in the lines, and it is blocking both fuel bowl shutoff >> 'valves' open. >> ...bill in oregon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On >> Behalf >> Of Mike/Donna Carpenter >> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:56 AM >> To: Spridget List >> Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation >> >> I have a new one for you all to discuss. >> >> I did a partial restoration (actually more preservation) on my '61 >> Seven >> America. It has a blue top AC electric fuel pump. Before I took >> it apart >> and cleaned it, the pump was putting out the right amount of fuel >> pressure. >> My SUs were not overflowing out the holes at the top where the hose >> enters. >> Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter >> and stuff >> fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. >> >> WHat have I done besides fix what wasn't broken and now I'm screwed? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike C ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 8 13:48:35 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com> At 02:37 PM 7/8/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! I completely agree! But a few more, and I'd have had trouble finding the hotel bar.... .... and Ed. Which meant I was in Missouri..... right smack-dab in the center of Missouri .. Thanks again, Brad. And for the music. Peter >I know a good tequila, and I don't pour a crap tequila (without a warning). >I DO have Patron and Cuervo, but it is only poured, after the >recipient is warned of it's nasty aftereffects. >I have actually had people request that swill. Since I have some >bottles that were gifts, I take them along from time to time. > > >On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Peter C ><peter at nosimport.com> wrote: >Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... > > or whatever the Spanish version of that is... > >And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais ou > >Pierre C. >=== >At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > >... into the tequila bar? > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > >From: "Brad Fornal" > > > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp > >switch to create a spark either. > > > >Brad From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 14:48:49 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:48:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4873D2B1.8010809@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! > > But it makes a hell of a tree sap remover. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 15:03:14 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:03:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <4873D2B1.8010809@comcast.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> <4873D2B1.8010809@comcast.net> Message-ID: It did soften it up. AND, you can sip on it when your done. Much better than chewing on your clay bar!!! On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: > >> MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! >> >> >> > But it makes a hell of a tree sap remover. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 8 15:49:54 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:49:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080708174954.4E4YS.21647.root@mp20> Can this tequila be used as fuel? ---- Brad Fornal wrote: > MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! > I know a good tequila, and I don't pour a crap tequila (without a warning). > I DO have Patron and Cuervo, but it is only poured, after the recipient is > warned of it's nasty aftereffects. > I have actually had people request that swill. Since I have some bottles > that were gifts, I take them along from time to time. > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Peter C wrote: > > > Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... > > > > or whatever the Spanish version of that is... > > > > And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais ou > > > > Pierre C. > > === > > At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > > >... into the tequila bar? > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > > >From: "Brad Fornal" > > > > > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any lamp > > >switch to create a spark either. > > > > > >Brad > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 15:55:30 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 16:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <20080708174954.4E4YS.21647.root@mp20> References: <20080708174954.4E4YS.21647.root@mp20> Message-ID: I'm sure it could be, but it isn't cheaper than gas, yet..... On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:49 PM, wrote: > Can this tequila be used as fuel? > > ---- Brad Fornal wrote: > > MY tequila, does NOT create hangovers!!! > > I know a good tequila, and I don't pour a crap tequila (without a > warning). > > I DO have Patron and Cuervo, but it is only poured, after the recipient > is > > warned of it's nasty aftereffects. > > I have actually had people request that swill. Since I have some bottles > > that were gifts, I take them along from time to time. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Peter C wrote: > > > > > Adds that certain je ne sais quoi.... > > > > > > or whatever the Spanish version of that is... > > > > > > And his trunk.... a few more "visits" and it would've been Je ne sais > ou > > > > > > Pierre C. > > > === > > > At 01:32 PM 7/8/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > >... into the tequila bar? > > > > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- > > > >From: "Brad Fornal" > > > > > > > >fwiw, IIRC, our 68 vents into the boot. But then, we don't have any > lamp > > > >switch to create a spark either. > > > > > > > >Brad > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From smarc at smarc.net Tue Jul 8 16:24:40 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:24:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts Message-ID: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> Does anyone have any direct experience with Direct Lift 4 post lifts? -- Marc From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 8 16:33:42 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:33:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708173324.037dc240@nosimport.com> Me too! Peter = At 05:24 PM 7/8/2008, Marc wrote: >Does anyone have any direct experience with Direct Lift 4 post lifts? > >-- > >Marc From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Jul 8 16:58:20 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:58:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> Their Pro-Park looks identical in the pictures to my Perfect Park and contrary to their home page, I do believe they all get built in one place with different stickers. Other than that, I have not heard of them before. I like my lift, its worked fine for 5+ years now, no issues with it. But when I sell it in the next month or so, I will be replacing it with a Bend-Pak. Mike p.s. the reason for selling has nothing to do with the lift, its just financial's and life getting in the way, I am moving but I have the new garage built until next year sometime, I just figured rather then tear the lift down and store it somewhere for 4-6 months, let someone else tear it down and then have a new one delivered, yes it will cost me some cash but you have to do what you have to do. Bend-Pak is close to me, I can drive down and pick up the lift and save shipping. Marc wrote: > Does anyone have any direct experience with Direct Lift 4 post lifts? From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 18:31:26 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:31:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics In-Reply-To: References: <1456419673.20080705080104@pacifier.com> <48700A48.4050001@smarc.net> Message-ID: Nice shots Bill. Anyone know who's Bugeye that is with the bimini top? I'd like to find out more about that arrangement. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:08:29 -0600 > From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] LotO Panoramics > > So I was wondering... Is that a poltergeist tire woman behind the white > bugeye with the bimini top? > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Marc wrote: > > > Bill's pics are posted at http://www.smarc.net/MG/lotto/index.html > > > > I compressed 'em a bit to save bandwidth... > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ messenger_072008 From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 8 18:32:38 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:32:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A strange tail. LBC content. Message-ID: <000e01c8e15b$4a8edf90$6401a8c0@personal> My carbs are the same numbers but they are different. My rear carb is 1/8 thinner than the front one. It seems to be in the flange that bolts to the intake manifold. This does not allow the shafts to line up and in fact causes them to bind a bit down at the idle position. Tomorrow I will add a couple of gaskets to align them and then see how the idle works with out that bind. Comments? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 18:33:16 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:33:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> I have had this one from America's Pride.. looks exactly the same to me. I don't use it as a lift but as storage. The best as far as I can tell is Backyard Buddy. Better in every way and costs it. If I had the money to spare I would get one.. Lester http://www.americasprideonline.com/quality-9000-lbcapacity-diamond-plated-automotive-service-and-storage-lift-1015802-3-1.ViewProduct On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > Their Pro-Park looks identical in the pictures to my Perfect Park and > contrary to their home page, I do believe they all get built in one > place with different stickers. Other than that, I have not heard of > them before. I like my lift, its worked fine for 5+ years now, no > issues with it. But when I sell it in the next month or so, I will be > replacing it with a Bend-Pak. > > Mike > > p.s. the reason for selling has nothing to do with the lift, its just > financial's and life getting in the way, I am moving but I have the > new > garage built until next year sometime, I just figured rather then tear > the lift down and store it somewhere for 4-6 months, let someone else > tear it down and then have a new one delivered, yes it will cost me > some > cash but you have to do what you have to do. Bend-Pak is close to > me, I > can drive down and pick up the lift and save shipping. > > Marc wrote: >> Does anyone have any direct experience with Direct Lift 4 post lifts? From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 18:39:15 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:39:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1976 Midget A Arms In-Reply-To: <966157.31297.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <611CF590-60BC-4AC3-A8EE-C5949A281983@dartmouth.edu> <966157.31297.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I guess he has gotten worse in the past few months. Eric is dealing with cancer, as he says, tooo many years inhaling brake and clutch dust. He seemed to be taking it very well. much better than I would. Very unfortunate, as he is a great guy and does very nice work, very reasonably priced. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto (not that i don't think that Peter will do anything but good work in assuming Eric's business. :-) > Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 16:07:01 -0700 >> Guys > > Illness has forced Eric to suspend his business for the time being. Peter C. was in the process of assuming the business. Stay tuned to this space as Peter is able to reply.... > > Ron > > > From: Mark A. O'Neil > > > Eric Jones in > > Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203 > > > > -m > > > > On Jul 5, 2008, at 1:57 PM, > > spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > > > That guy in Ohio. Archives! > > __________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Its a talkathon  but its not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From smarc at smarc.net Tue Jul 8 18:43:33 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> For those of you with 4 post lifts, did you anchor them to the concrete floor, or leave them free standing? Lester wrote: > I have had this one from America's Pride.. looks exactly the same to > me. I don't use it as a lift but as storage. The best as far as I > can tell is Backyard Buddy. Better in every way and costs it. If I > had the money to spare I would get one.. > > Lester > > http://www.americasprideonline.com/quality-9000-lbcapacity-diamond-plated-automotive-service-and-storage-lift-1015802-3-1.ViewProduct From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 8 18:50:16 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:50:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation In-Reply-To: <12552348.1215536135573.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter and stuff > fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. Did you keep the garbage, or did you throw it out? From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 8 19:25:32 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation References: Message-ID: <000b01c8e162$ae55c3c0$6401a8c0@personal> LOL, out with the bath water. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation >> Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter and >> stuff >> fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. > Did you keep the garbage, or did you throw it out? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 19:42:12 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:42:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> Message-ID: <8c1781040807081842v4b32a72euf4774b2749de5c72@mail.gmail.com> I have this one: http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Direct-Lift-Pro-Park-8-Plus-p/tppro-park8.htm I bought it because the dimensions and lift height suited my needs. I can park either spridget on it and raise it up high enough to walk under it without ducking. I have no complaints with the design/construction or mechanicals. I do not have it anchored to the floor because I want to be able to easily move it from one side of the garage to the other as needed. Trevor Jessie On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 6:24 PM, Marc wrote: > Does anyone have any direct experience with Direct Lift 4 post lifts? > > -- > > Marc From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 8 19:51:58 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:51:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> Message-ID: <2932F048-77BF-481B-B92C-99D4D5E4B0B3@comcast.net> Free standing.. mine came with a caster set so that it can be rolled around. Lester On Jul 8, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Marc wrote: > For those of you with 4 post lifts, did you anchor them to the > concrete > floor, or leave them free standing? > > Lester wrote: >> I have had this one from America's Pride.. looks exactly the same to >> me. I don't use it as a lift but as storage. The best as far as I >> can tell is Backyard Buddy. Better in every way and costs it. If I >> had the money to spare I would get one.. >> >> Lester >> >> http://www.americasprideonline.com/quality-9000-lbcapacity-diamond-plated-automotive-service-and-storage-lift-1015802-3-1.ViewProduct From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 8 21:24:39 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:24:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo thereof (which IS better)!! No, I guess that would be !! From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Jul 8 20:36:09 2008 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:36:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion Message-ID: <3D298D53-25E7-4E42-B847-65DFEC4FCE06@gerardsgarage.com> Does anyone know of any alternate front disc brake conversion for Sprites or Morris Minors that would allow for a hub with a 4.5 in bolt circle? I know of a Morris that has front discs from a Datsun, but don't know what model they came from. Any British hubs with that bolt circle that might work? Suggestions welcome. Gerard From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Jul 8 20:42:46 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:42:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com> <00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> Okay....Have had enough of the fuunies with my car... When it is cold the car run awesome. After about a 10 mile drive temp is 180 and then it starts missing. Sounds like it is only running on two cylinders when the missing starts. Checked the points, plugs, and fuel issues were dealt with at LOTO. When you give it gas the missing tries to clear I think. After about an hour sitting it starts right up and the same thing occurs again. I am leaning towards possibly the coil. Any other ideas. I want it sooo badly to run reliably:) Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed's Shop Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:25 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters <> Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo thereof (which IS better)!! No, I guess that would be !! You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 8 20:50:22 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:50:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com><00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> Message-ID: <002d01c8e16e$8820c400$6401a8c0@personal> I am leaning toward vapor lock. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "'Ed's Shop'" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > Okay....Have had enough of the fuunies with my car... When it is cold the > car run awesome. After about a 10 mile drive temp is 180 and then it > starts > missing. Sounds like it is only running on two cylinders when the missing > starts. Checked the points, plugs, and fuel issues were dealt with at > LOTO. > When you give it gas the missing tries to clear I think. After about an > hour sitting it starts right up and the same thing occurs again. I am > leaning towards possibly the coil. Any other ideas. I want it sooo badly > to run reliably:) > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Ed's Shop > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:25 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > > < .... and Ed.>> > > Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL > > Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo > thereof > (which IS better)!! No, I guess that would be !! > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Jul 8 21:00:52 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 22:00:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <002d01c8e16e$8820c400$6401a8c0@personal> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com><00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> <002d01c8e16e$8820c400$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <00a701c8e16f$ffd7a080$ff86e180$@net> Have also thought about that . cut a small slot in the gas tank gasket to make sure that it isnt a vacuum issue. How could I rule vapor lock out? Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird [mailto:jlaird237 at cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:50 PM To: Leo; 'Ed's Shop'; Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters I am leaning toward vapor lock. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "'Ed's Shop'" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > Okay....Have had enough of the fuunies with my car... When it is cold the > car run awesome. After about a 10 mile drive temp is 180 and then it > starts > missing. Sounds like it is only running on two cylinders when the missing > starts. Checked the points, plugs, and fuel issues were dealt with at > LOTO. > When you give it gas the missing tries to clear I think. After about an > hour sitting it starts right up and the same thing occurs again. I am > leaning towards possibly the coil. Any other ideas. I want it sooo badly > to run reliably:) > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Ed's Shop > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:25 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > > < .... and Ed.>> > > Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL > > Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo > thereof > (which IS better)!! 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Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Jul 8 22:05:56 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:05:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> Message-ID: <48743924.2050605@b2systems.com> Mine is free standing and I got the caster set with it but after the second day, I have never moved it. To be honest the first day, I only moved it because it was so cool to move it :) Mike Marc wrote: > For those of you with 4 post lifts, did you anchor them to the concrete > floor, or leave them free standing? > > Lester wrote: > >> I have had this one from America's Pride.. looks exactly the same to >> me. I don't use it as a lift but as storage. The best as far as I >> can tell is Backyard Buddy. Better in every way and costs it. If I >> had the money to spare I would get one.. >> >> Lester >> >> http://www.americasprideonline.com/quality-9000-lbcapacity-diamond-plated-automotive-service-and-storage-lift-1015802-3-1.ViewProduct >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 8 22:08:01 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <00a701c8e16f$ffd7a080$ff86e180$@net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com><00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> <002d01c8e16e$8820c400$6401a8c0@personal> <00a701c8e16f$ffd7a080$ff86e180$@net> Message-ID: <8710064258.20080708210801@pacifier.com> Hello Leo, I too am leaning toward coil. 10 minutes shouldn't be long enough to vapor lock it, I would think. however it is long enough for the coil to heat up and start acting .... ODD... and its an easy enough thing to check. Swap coils .. i've heard of the coil being broken not enough to see right where the the low tension leads connect.... .. ALSO .. CHANGE the CONDENSOR! that too will cause similar problems, and the only way to check it is to change it.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 9 01:21:58 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:21:58 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <8710064258.20080708210801@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Leo, If it is an electrical misfire then the tachometer needle will thrash around. If it is fuel / vapour lock etc then the revs will drop as it misfires but the needle won't thrash about so much. But it could be valves sticking as they get hot. Is it a standard camshaft and what clearance are you running the tappets at? Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: 09 July 2008 05:08 To: Leo Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters Hello Leo, I too am leaning toward coil. 10 minutes shouldn't be long enough to vapor lock it, I would think. however it is long enough for the coil to heat up and start acting .... ODD... and its an easy enough thing to check. Swap coils .. i've heard of the coil being broken not enough to see right where the the low tension leads connect.... .. ALSO .. CHANGE the CONDENSOR! that too will cause similar problems, and the only way to check it is to change it.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jul 9 06:27:10 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:27:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters References: Message-ID: <003501c8e1bf$1c47cd90$6401a8c0@personal> It is a Bugeye, one maybe the nicest restoration I have seen. All orginal or better. Mechanical tac, standard everything. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Bill L'" ; "'Leo'" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > Leo, > If it is an electrical misfire then the tachometer needle will thrash > around. If it is fuel / vapour lock etc then the revs will drop as it > misfires but the needle won't thrash about so much. > But it could be valves sticking as they get hot. Is it a standard camshaft > and what clearance are you running the tappets at? > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On > Behalf > Of Bill L > Sent: 09 July 2008 05:08 > To: Leo > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > > > Hello Leo, > > I too am leaning toward coil. 10 minutes shouldn't be long enough > to vapor lock it, I would think. however it is long enough for > the coil to heat up and start acting .... ODD... > > and its an easy enough thing to check. Swap coils .. i've heard > of the coil being broken not enough to see right where the the > low tension leads connect.... .. ALSO .. CHANGE the CONDENSOR! > that too will cause similar problems, and the only way to check > it is to change it.... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 9 06:38:17 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:38:17 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <003501c8e1bf$1c47cd90$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <505A471A6A8D49479C1782D1C92EE2C4@GuyLaptop> Ahh! Sorry, My comments about "reading" the Tach of course don't apply with mechanical ones! It could still be the valves binding if the clearances are a bit tight. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Jack Laird [mailto:jlaird237 at cox.net] Sent: 09 July 2008 13:27 To: Guy Weller; 'Bill L'; 'Leo' Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters It is a Bugeye, one maybe the nicest restoration I have seen. All orginal or better. Mechanical tac, standard everything. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Bill L'" ; "'Leo'" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:21 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > Leo, > If it is an electrical misfire then the tachometer needle will thrash > around. If it is fuel / vapour lock etc then the revs will drop as it > misfires but the needle won't thrash about so much. > But it could be valves sticking as they get hot. Is it a standard camshaft > and what clearance are you running the tappets at? > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On > Behalf > Of Bill L > Sent: 09 July 2008 05:08 > To: Leo > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > > > Hello Leo, > > I too am leaning toward coil. 10 minutes shouldn't be long enough > to vapor lock it, I would think. however it is long enough for > the coil to heat up and start acting .... ODD... > > and its an easy enough thing to check. Swap coils .. i've heard > of the coil being broken not enough to see right where the the > low tension leads connect.... .. ALSO .. CHANGE the CONDENSOR! > that too will cause similar problems, and the only way to check > it is to change it.... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 6:33 AM From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 07:02:52 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:02:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <505A471A6A8D49479C1782D1C92EE2C4@GuyLaptop> References: <003501c8e1bf$1c47cd90$6401a8c0@personal> <505A471A6A8D49479C1782D1C92EE2C4@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: Very possible Guy. Leo, how many miles have you really put on Iris, since you finished her?? On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > Ahh! Sorry, My comments about "reading" the Tach of course don't apply > with > mechanical ones! > > It could still be the valves binding if the clearances are a bit tight. > > Guy From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 9 07:18:14 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation Message-ID: <20781929.1215609494901.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I threw it out. You would not believe all of the garbage that was in that filter area. I went home after work yesterday and began to take apart both float bowls and look at what was in them and if the valve was working properly. The valve seems to be opening and closing with the float appropriately. I am going to swap the parts out with some spares that I have. Maybe their is something wrong that I am not seeing. I just wonder why both are doing the pour fuel out bit. Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: Billy Zoom >Sent: Jul 8, 2008 8:50 PM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter , Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation > >> Now that I cleaned all of the garbage out of the fuel pump filter and stuff >> fuel is flowing out of both my SU float bowls. >Did you keep the garbage, or did you throw it out? > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 9 07:30:20 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 09:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion Message-ID: <20182202.1215610220730.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Gerald, Are you going to the PVGP this month? I know that is a flight or a long drive but it was nice to meet you that day by the deep pink Sprite. The 4.5 lug PCD is actually a common one as TR2-6 had that dimensions, also Corvair as odd as that would be. I am sure that there are others but that is a start. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Gerard Chateauvieux >Sent: Jul 8, 2008 10:36 PM >To: spridgets , bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Midget/Sprite , morris_motors at yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion > >Does anyone know of any alternate front disc brake conversion for >Sprites or Morris Minors that would allow for a hub with a 4.5 in >bolt circle? I know of a Morris that has front discs from a Datsun, >but don't know what model they came from. Any British hubs with that >bolt circle that might work? > >Suggestions welcome. > >Gerard >_______________________________________________ > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 9 07:33:10 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:33:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump situation In-Reply-To: <20781929.1215609494901.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20781929.1215609494901.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005101c8e1c8$55da7c70$b303f204@spider> I check those valves by removing the whole top from the float bowl. Then I blow in the fuel inlet brass pipe and move the float up and down. You can tell if the shut-off valve is working. Also look into the float if possible, or shake it to make sure it is not compromised. ...bill =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:18 AM To: Billy Zoom; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Odd Fuel Pump situation I threw it out. You would not believe all of the garbage that was in that filter area. I went home after work yesterday and began to take apart both float bowls and look at what was in them and if the valve was working properly. The valve seems to be opening and closing with the float appropriately. I am going to swap the parts out with some spares that I have. Maybe their is something wrong that I am not seeing. I just wonder why both are doing the pour fuel out bit. Mike Carpenter From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 9 07:51:10 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:51:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump situation References: <20781929.1215609494901.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <005101c8e1c8$55da7c70$b303f204@spider> Message-ID: <057C56C805DC4B2892DA954C89494113@NilesAD.von.gov> > I went home after work yesterday and began to take apart both float bowls > and look at what was in them and if the valve was working properly. The > valve seems to be opening and closing with the float appropriately. > I am going to swap the parts out with some spares that I have. Maybe > their > is something wrong that I am not seeing. I just wonder why both are doing > the pour fuel out bit. Mike, Moving up and down is not the issue. It only takes a tiny bit of debris on the tip of the needle to prevent it from sealing. Remove the float, remove the needle, inspect both and blow them out with compressed air. Reassemble and test if it will hold a vacuum when inverted. David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 07:57:57 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 08:57:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show and LBC Show Message-ID: <01ab01c8e1cb$cbc47640$6401a8c0@Larry> The annual EAA Air Show in Oshkosh, WI will be July 28 thru Aug. 3rd. http://www.airventure.org/ For anybody who would like to see the air show from the flight line for free, my brother has a home abutting the airport property and has his hangar in his backyard with a taxiway to the runway going right past it. He puts on an annual party for the air show. This year it will be Saturday, Aug. 2nd. He is inviting any British car people to come and display their cars on his taxiway. You are all invited. This is a family-friendly event, so spouses and/or kids are welcome. He and I will sponsor lunch including beer, soda and bbq. Just bring something to pass. The party starts at 2:00, food at 2:30 and the air show at 3:30. A camera, sunscreen and a lawn chair would be wise to bring. He is on the opposite side of the runway from the EAA crowd and the flight return path goes directly overhead. You won't forget an F-22 Raptor going at speed directly over your head. Earplugs might not be a bad idea. If you can, please RSVP by Saturday the 26th so we know about how much food and drink to get. There will be several hundred people, so we always over-estimate in case you decide to come at the last minute. ladaniels at sbcglobal.net The address is 3778 Red Oak Ct., Oshkosh, WI. Before the event, I will find a meeting place near the highway so we can drive in together. If you are on another British car list or know of other British car owners, you are welcome to pass this on. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 9 08:29:40 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 10:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump situation Message-ID: <15298649.1215613780967.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> OK. Excellent. I will check that tonight. I did find more debris in the bottom of both float bowls while I had them apart. I guess that I really loosened something up! Thanks. i let you know what happens. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: David Lieb >Sent: Jul 9, 2008 9:51 AM >To: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump situation > >> I went home after work yesterday and began to take apart both float bowls >> and look at what was in them and if the valve was working properly. The >> valve seems to be opening and closing with the float appropriately. >> I am going to swap the parts out with some spares that I have. Maybe >> their >> is something wrong that I am not seeing. I just wonder why both are doing >> the pour fuel out bit. > >Mike, >Moving up and down is not the issue. It only takes a tiny bit of debris on >the tip of the needle to prevent it from sealing. Remove the float, remove >the needle, inspect both and blow them out with compressed air. Reassemble >and test if it will hold a vacuum when inverted. >David Lieb >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From smarc at smarc.net Wed Jul 9 10:24:17 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:24:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <48743924.2050605@b2systems.com> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> <48743924.2050605@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <4874E631.3030700@smarc.net> Appreciate all the comments regarding the 4 post - I think I'm definitely going to get one, and I'm leaning towards the Pro Park 8S, which I think will work well in my space. Prob will rent a trailer and drive up to Delaware to get it. Saves me 6% tax + couple hundred shipping... Now I have some questions regarding the use of jack trays or those "bridge" jacks that fit on the lift. I can't say that standing under the lift, working one or more jacks is a particularly thrilling thought... I know many folks just use a pair of bottle jacks on the jack tray. I'm thinking that a bridge jack might be a nice way to go, especially one equipped with an air/hydraulic unit so that I wouldn't have to stand under the car and jack it up... Is this really a big deal in your experience? How do you handle this? From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 11:59:39 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:59:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4874E631.3030700@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> <48743924.2050605@b2systems.com> <4874E631.3030700@smarc.net> Message-ID: <8c1781040807091059g7cc11da3ibee4e59a2188d6f9@mail.gmail.com> The jack tray is VERY heavy. I use a bottle jack in the tray, and place jack stands as soon as I have clearance. The bridge jack would certainly be better IF it fits the midget. If you look closely you will see that the spridget wheels will barely span the ramps (this is because the clearance in between the ramps is including the lip for the drip trays. I tape a line on my ramp so that I can get the midget on the ramps without half a tire hanging off. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Marc wrote: > Appreciate all the comments regarding the 4 post - I think I'm > definitely going to get one, and I'm leaning towards the Pro Park 8S, > which I think will work well in my space. Prob will rent a trailer and > drive up to Delaware to get it. Saves me 6% tax + couple hundred shipping... > > Now I have some questions regarding the use of jack trays or those > "bridge" jacks that fit on the lift. I can't say that standing under the > lift, working one or more jacks is a particularly thrilling thought... > > I know many folks just use a pair of bottle jacks on the jack tray. I'm > thinking that a bridge jack might be a nice way to go, especially one > equipped with an air/hydraulic unit so that I wouldn't have to stand > under the car and jack it up... > > Is this really a big deal in your experience? How do you handle this? From james.f.juhas at snet.net Wed Jul 9 14:29:52 2008 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (James F Juhas) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:29:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post lifts In-Reply-To: <4874E631.3030700@smarc.net> References: <4873E928.3040602@smarc.net> <4873F10C.3020407@b2systems.com> <1ECAEE86-B4D4-41D7-9E63-18302DD52491@comcast.net> <487409B5.1040501@smarc.net> <48743924.2050605@b2systems.com> <4874E631.3030700@smarc.net> Message-ID: <48751FC0.2060907@snet.net> It hasn't been a big deal in my experience. I have an Eagle lift, for many years now. I don't have either a bridge jack or the bridge tray. Instead, I often use 2x6s between the ramps, sometimes jack from there with either scissors jacks or bottle jacks. (I have several scissors jacks obtained from swap meets at an average of $5 per. They are great for making minute height adjustments when working on a particular component.) I have never been concerned with jacking the car from underneath because it really can't fall anywhere. I also made a short "sawhorse" from heavy 2x2 tubing which stands on the ramps in the same space an expensive jack bridge would sit. From that, I can use wood blocks to the car frame rails or other substantive structure to support the car. I have done rear axle and spring work on my Sprites like this. Depending on the car, I can also jack from the ramp/tread surface to the underside of the car and jack from there. Marc wrote: > Appreciate all the comments regarding the 4 post - I think I'm > definitely going to get one, and I'm leaning towards the Pro Park 8S, > which I think will work well in my space. Prob will rent a trailer and > drive up to Delaware to get it. Saves me 6% tax + couple hundred shipping... > > Now I have some questions regarding the use of jack trays or those > "bridge" jacks that fit on the lift. I can't say that standing under the > lift, working one or more jacks is a particularly thrilling thought... > > I know many folks just use a pair of bottle jacks on the jack tray. I'm > thinking that a bridge jack might be a nice way to go, especially one > equipped with an air/hydraulic unit so that I wouldn't have to stand > under the car and jack it up... > > Is this really a big deal in your experience? How do you handle this? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as james.f.juhas at snet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 9 14:50:13 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:50:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: <547812621.20080707165336@pacifier.com> References: <1BE3DFCA-A579-48AE-A663-C83345BF1413@dartmouth.edu> <547812621.20080707165336@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Has no one resurrected the old bonsai kitten link from a few years ago? Definitely THE way to utilize feline flexibility. -----Original Message----- From: Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:54 PM To: Mark A. O'Neil Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS Hello Mark, The #1 use if as wheel chocks, of course.. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "I'm embarrassed," Tom admitted readily. From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 9 14:55:53 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:55:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. Message-ID: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> Does anyone have a 100-4 brake master cylinder that they could take some measurements for me ? or better yet close by so I can compare ? I know there is a big healey list but I am on too many lists already so thought I would ask here before joining another list. One of our members needs a master cylinder for his Singer and the 100-4 cylinder looks identical but there is some discussion if the piston size is the same. I am talking about part 7-076 on this page http://www.victoriabritish.com/Features/AH/AHBR1.htm. I have seen the 2 together and I know the bolt holes are easily with a 1/4" of each other, I could not compare that closely but its close, its just the internal diameter that is the concern. mike From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 9 17:16:15 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:16:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Healey long shot. In-Reply-To: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> References: <487525D9.1020606@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <487546BF.8030606@b2systems.com> Thanks for the help guys, I have found out from Peter C. that they did have different bores. mike Mike Rambour wrote: > Does anyone have a 100-4 brake master cylinder that they could take > some measurements for me ? or better yet close by so I can compare ? > > I know there is a big healey list but I am on too many lists already so > thought I would ask here before joining another list. > > One of our members needs a master cylinder for his Singer and the 100-4 > cylinder looks identical but there is some discussion if the piston size > is the same. I am talking about part 7-076 on this page > http://www.victoriabritish.com/Features/AH/AHBR1.htm. > > I have seen the 2 together and I know the bolt holes are easily with a > 1/4" of each other, I could not compare that closely but its close, its > just the internal diameter that is the concern. > > mike > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 9 17:32:26 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:32:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Why torture animals when there are so many Liberals available? From p.herder at cox.net Wed Jul 9 17:38:25 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:38:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48754BF1.9020002@cox.net> Now THIS I can agree to!! Paul Staff member for three cats... Restorer for the wife's 66 Sprite... Billy Zoom wrote: > Why torture animals when there are so many Liberals available? > _______________________________________________ From bugi1960 at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 18:06:37 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:06:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern Message-ID: <579DD8C1-F7F0-4EA4-8B3F-3FDCFFC0AA36@gmail.com> X will be playing on Direct TV ch 101 at 10pm eastern. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 18:19:30 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:19:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS References: Message-ID: <035001c8e222$9ffc80f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Wow, now there is an especially ignorant statement. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Deikis, John G" ; "Bill L" ; "Mark A. O'Neil" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS Why torture animals when there are so many Liberals available? You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Jul 9 19:30:04 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:30:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern In-Reply-To: <579DD8C1-F7F0-4EA4-8B3F-3FDCFFC0AA36@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001a01c8e22c$7b080260$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> I gotta figure a way to get sat TV! (neighbors house is in the way). BTW I know Billy says there's nothing good on radio these days but last week my local station actually played "4th of July" on the 4th natch. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:07 PM To: Spridgets Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern X will be playing on Direct TV ch 101 at 10pm eastern. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA You are subscribed as herby at herbytoys.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release Date: 7/9/2008 6:32 PM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 9 19:36:02 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:36:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: <035001c8e222$9ffc80f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: > Wow, now there is an especially ignorant statement. We can't all be smart enough to enjoy torturing animals. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 9 20:24:06 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:24:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS References: Message-ID: <03be01c8e234$07c13b20$6401a8c0@Larry> The first six words would have been enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Deikis, John G" ; "Bill L" ; "Mark A. O'Neil" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS > Wow, now there is an especially ignorant statement. We can't all be smart enough to enjoy torturing animals. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 9 20:40:12 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 19:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern In-Reply-To: <001a01c8e22c$7b080260$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <361930.62694.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Check out BZ showing why he gets his own edition Gretsch next up on "Devil Doll". If they'd only play "Have Nots".... ;-) --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Herby wrote: > From: Herby > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern > To: "'Spridgets Spridgets'" > Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:30 PM > I gotta figure a way to get sat TV! (neighbors house is in > the way). BTW I > know Billy says there's nothing good on radio these > days but last week my > local station actually played "4th of July" on > the 4th natch. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of > Phil Nase > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 5:07 PM > To: Spridgets Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on Direct TV at 10pm eastern > > X will be playing on Direct TV ch 101 at 10pm eastern. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > You are subscribed as herby at herbytoys.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1543 - Release > Date: 7/9/2008 > 6:32 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From davriker at nwi.net Wed Jul 9 21:45:17 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:45:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget References: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> Message-ID: <016201c8e23f$5efac950$6600a8c0@dave> how are the front fenders and center valence? Where would you be shipping from? My car was just in an accident, so I will be looking for those items. Dave Riker Wenatchee, WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget > If anyone out there has a need for parts off a 1974 MG Midget such as > ribcase trans, doors, windshield glass and frame, trunk lid, side marker > lights, body trim, gauges , or most any engine bay parts such as heater, > etc.. e-mail me off line. Will be picking up the car Wednesday and all I > want is the engine (1275) and the front disk brake setup. All the rest > needs to go. Little by little am going to start gathering the bits for a > driver J See what you did to me a LOTODamn well corrupted me!!! > Turned > me into one of those heathens. BUT HEY Sure feels fun when the car > runs > and drives like you stole it. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 00:14:49 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:14:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: <03be01c8e234$07c13b20$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <03be01c8e234$07c13b20$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807092314j1bda1962h5086d7fc2b0de555@mail.gmail.com> As my old Yiddish neighbor lady used to say... "Nice kids. Don't fight." Cheers!! Jim P.S. It never worked for her either.... On 7/9/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > The first six words would have been enough. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billy Zoom" > > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Deikis, John G" > ; "Bill L" ; "Mark A. O'Neil" > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS > > > > > Wow, now there is an especially ignorant statement. > We can't all be smart enough to enjoy torturing animals. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 10 06:19:47 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:19:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous Message-ID: Hey Frank, read the description for the fiberglass dashboard at Speedwell's site: http://www.speedwellengineering.com/glasspage.html I think they have heard of you... David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 10 07:33:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:33:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I guess we should call him '007' then! :) What's odd about the image associated with this: "Spridget" Front End The mold for this complete, one-piece front end It looks to me like there are hood pins holding the bonnet on? Is that the way that you would attach a one piece front end? ----Original Message Follows---- Hey Frank, read the description for the fiberglass dashboard at Speedwell's site: http://www.speedwellengineering.com/glasspage.html I think they have heard of you... David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 10 07:43:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:43:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous References: Message-ID: <7D4D0D26012E49D9A245B4705ECD1149@NilesAD.von.gov> > What's odd about the image associated with this: > "Spridget" Front End > The mold for this complete, one-piece front end > > It looks to me like there are hood pins holding the bonnet on? Is that > the > way that you would attach a one piece front end? There is something comforting about seeing those hood pins. IF you attached them properly, you can be reasonably sure that $1400 worth of fiberglass is not about to break your windshield just now. Plus, much of Speedwell's line addresses the racer crowd and hood pins tend to make it look racier, don't they? David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 10 07:58:26 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:58:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous In-Reply-To: <7D4D0D26012E49D9A245B4705ECD1149@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: :) I'm not part of the racer crowd. I generally associate hood pins with older cars that someone is part way through souping up. :) But, that's my first impression and then I move on. I think that my preference would be to go for a smoother look, if I was going that way. ( no seams, no pins on top. Maybe those whatmacallum (dzus?) fasteners on the lower rear of the front fenders. ) This bonnet also had seams, I think. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Lieb" > What's odd about the image associated with this: > "Spridget" Front End > The mold for this complete, one-piece front end > > It looks to me like there are hood pins holding the bonnet on? Is that > the > way that you would attach a one piece front end? There is something comforting about seeing those hood pins. IF you attached them properly, you can be reasonably sure that $1400 worth of fiberglass is not about to break your windshield just now. Plus, much of Speedwell's line addresses the racer crowd and hood pins tend to make it look racier, don't they? David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 10 08:16:38 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:16:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080710091527.03533af0@nosimport.com> At 07:19 AM 7/10/2008, David Lieb wrote: >Hey Frank, read the description for the fiberglass dashboard at Speedwell's >site: http://www.speedwellengineering.com/glasspage.html >I think they have heard of you... >David Lieb ============== His is not a smokescreen button, but a smoke level check. Weren't you paying attention? Peter C. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 10 08:23:21 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:23:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show Message-ID: For anyone who's interested, there is an All British Car Day in Ottawa this Saturday. www.britishcarday.ca From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 08:52:38 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 14:52:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color for 74 midgit (sorry kristy) MIDGET? Message-ID: <071020081452.16891.48762236000C902E000041FB2216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> What was the original engine color for a 74 midget? Mine no longer looks like it was painted ever. ryan From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 10 08:56:54 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color for 74 midgit (sorry kristy) MIDGET? Message-ID: <4608625.1215701814379.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Shiny black. -----Original Message----- >From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net >Sent: Jul 10, 2008 10:52 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Engine color for 74 midgit (sorry kristy) MIDGET? > >What was the original engine color for a 74 midget? Mine no longer looks like it was painted ever. >ryan ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 10 09:01:50 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:01:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous In-Reply-To: <7D4D0D26012E49D9A245B4705ECD1149@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <7D4D0D26012E49D9A245B4705ECD1149@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: David, To me, that front end doesn't look like 1 piece. it looks like the hood is separate, or they molded with lines to look like it is Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > > > What's odd about the image associated with this: > > "Spridget" Front End > > The mold for this complete, one-piece front end > > > > It looks to me like there are hood pins holding the bonnet on? Is that > > the > > way that you would attach a one piece front end? > > There is something comforting about seeing those hood pins. IF you attached > them properly, you can be reasonably sure that $1400 worth of fiberglass is > not about to break your windshield just now. Plus, much of Speedwell's line > addresses the racer crowd and hood pins tend to make it look racier, don't > they? > David Lieb > ___________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one message at a time. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_BetterPlace From mikey at b2systems.com Thu Jul 10 10:03:43 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487632DF.20207@b2systems.com> If anyone is going there, could you snap a few pics of the Singer's that will be there for the Singer website ? Yes, the members there will be taking pics for me but its always fun to have some extras on the web site. Of course full credit goes to the photographer, this is your chance to become famous and have your pictures seen on the web all around the world by nearly no one. mike Robert Duquette wrote: > For anyone who's interested, there is an All British Car Day in Ottawa this > Saturday. > > www.britishcarday.ca > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 10 10:06:37 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:06:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show References: <487632DF.20207@b2systems.com> Message-ID: > ... Of course full credit goes to the photographer, this is your > chance to become famous and have your pictures seen on the web all > around the world by nearly no one. More people might see it if you were to accidentally mention the url in your post... Lorry Denials From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 10 10:17:03 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 16:17:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show In-Reply-To: <487632DF.20207@b2systems.com> Message-ID: I don't think there will be any singers!! I don't even think there'll be any music ... I may actually try to make it to this show. I've managed to miss the last 3 ... ( There's only been 3 ) If I do, and remember to bring a camera, I'll see what I can do. I might not 'want' credit though ... ----Original Message Follows---- From: Mike Rambour If anyone is going there, could you snap a few pics of the Singer's that will be there for the Singer website ? Yes, the members there will be taking pics for me but its always fun to have some extras on the web site. Of course full credit goes to the photographer, this is your chance to become famous and have your pictures seen on the web all around the world by nearly no one. mike Robert Duquette wrote: >For anyone who's interested, there is an All British Car Day in Ottawa this >Saturday. > >www.britishcarday.ca From mikey at b2systems.com Thu Jul 10 10:55:41 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:55:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] British Car Show In-Reply-To: References: <487632DF.20207@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <48763F0D.7050709@b2systems.com> Good point, when I switched jobs last year, I was forced to switch e-mail software and I have never put in my cool signature file from the "old" days. Think I will fix that today. But for the record, I don't want pictures of guys up on stage singing !!! I want pictures of Singer CARS !!! :) as in http://www.singercars.com/ :) mike p.s. pictures of girls on stage with family inappropriate clothing, might be acceptable. p.p.s. and posting on the spridget list about Singer CARS is kind of ok, I think since so many get repowered with spridget motors as its a perfect fit, no holes drilled in the chassis, no mods at all to the Singer chassis, so it can be returned to original someday. David Lieb wrote: >> ... Of course full credit goes to the photographer, this is your >> chance to become famous and have your pictures seen on the web all >> around the world by nearly no one. >> > > More people might see it if you were to accidentally mention the url in your > post... > Lorry Denials > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 17:54:31 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:54:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080710091527.03533af0@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080710091527.03533af0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4876A137.1070105@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > At 07:19 AM 7/10/2008, David Lieb wrote: > >> Hey Frank, read the description for the fiberglass dashboard at Speedwell's >> site: http://www.speedwellengineering.com/glasspage.html >> I think they have heard of you... >> David Lieb >> > ============== > His is not a smokescreen button, but a smoke level check. > > Weren't you paying attention? > > Yeah! And I do NOT have a missile arming switch, Just a photon torpedo launching switch ;) Besides, I don't have a zillion extra holes, only a couple hundred. But if I had room....... -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 10 18:53:40 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:53:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content Message-ID: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> H1 carbs. I have been haveing more problems than the law allows. Think I have solved most of them now but. When I put the unisync to one of the carbs it covers the(1/4") hole in the body that goes inside and causes the engine to jump maybe 1K rpm. The hole is next to the large hole in the body inside which is the butterfly. I always thought it was an air balance thing. What is that hole for and why would it now be doing this. You can also put your thumb on the hole and raise the rpm. HELP From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 10 18:16:45 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:16:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Who Wants to Drive a Millionaire? Message-ID: The sheik wanted to trade me straight across for the Sprite, but I was just not in the mood and told him to bugger off! http://tinyurl.com/5v9o67 Buster From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 13:10:28 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:10:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Glass replacement in '58 Sprite Message-ID: <8c1781040807101210x4de2171cu11e64b87c03deb25@mail.gmail.com> OK, so on the way to LotO a rock hit my windscreen and cracked it. I have a replacement windscreen and I think I'm up to the challenge of replacing it. However, if anyone has done a 9-stud windscreen and can give me a step by step (or even just a few pointers) I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Trevor "Ugly Bug" Sprite. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 18:18:14 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation Message-ID: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> I started dismantling the 63 Sprite that I acquired a few weeks ago, It is beyond restoring even by me. But it had a dash, the temp gauge works, disc brakes in the front and Bugeye type rear shoes. What I noticed while tearing apart the rear suspension was a metal/rubber closer plate that sealed the hole where the leaf springs come out of the spring perches. I never saw these on a Bugeye, and I have replaced the spring boxes on 2 Bugeyes. But this MKII had them and the spring boxes are perfect. They work! The car has no sills, no floors, and even the trunk floor rusted into the gas tank but the spring boxes look like new. I never noticed these pieces in any catalogs either. I would recommend these parts or something similar made out of rubber to shield the dirt and grime from getting into the spring hanger boxes. Also if anyone wants a really rough MKII shell, come get it or the scrap metal man will. It is bad, no doors, no fenders, just a tub or what's left of a tub after the tin worms had a feast for 20 years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jul 10 19:55:20 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation References: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <041501c8e2f9$2d345e80$6501a8c0@refisk> Frank, Please take (and share!) a photo of the closer plates. I have considered making something like this and it would be good to see how someone else did it. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation >I started dismantling the 63 Sprite that I acquired a few weeks ago, > It is beyond restoring even by me. But it had a dash, the temp gauge > works, disc brakes in the front and Bugeye type rear shoes. > What I noticed while tearing apart the rear suspension was a > metal/rubber closer plate that sealed the hole where the leaf springs > come out of the spring perches................. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 10 18:19:41 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous References: Message-ID: <872E2A10CFDD443C871B3AD3C6104747@midget> > It's probably mandatory in US racing. You say that as if there were some monolithic race sanctioning board. It is probably mandatory in some classes and strictly verboten in others. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 10 19:10:53 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:10:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Panoramic Pictures from Lake of the Ozarks Message-ID: <43840a7e0807101810s322827d6hc40c23b178c59979@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Most of the attendees from "50 Years of Spridgets" have checked out the panoramic photos done by Tony Lipari. We thought we'd let the rest of you check them out and order if you'd like to. Tony has extended the order period through July 15th! The smiley faced bugeyes are especially striking! http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/panoramics.html There is an order form linked from this page if you decide you can't live without one! -- Cheers!! Jim From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 10 20:15:37 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:15:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Glass replacement in '58 Sprite In-Reply-To: <8c1781040807101210x4de2171cu11e64b87c03deb25@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c1781040807101210x4de2171cu11e64b87c03deb25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4876C249.7090907@comcast.net> Trevor Jessie wrote: > OK, so on the way to LotO a rock hit my windscreen and cracked it. I > have a replacement windscreen and I think I'm up to the challenge of > replacing it. However, if anyone has done a 9-stud windscreen and can > give me a step by step (or even just a few pointers) I would certainly > appreciate it. > > I had to install the glass in my 58. The gasket from glass to frame was shot and unavailable so I just used some thin rubber sheet cut into I think 4 strips, 2 sides, top and bottom without too much concern around the corners because we all know a 9 stud leaks anyway. There are 2 bent metal tabs or more like threaded metal plates that hold the screws, mine were rusted beyond use. I just made new ones out of some 1/8 thick steel, getting the holes in the right spot took a few tries. Drill and tap 10/32 for the screws from the frame. Once the frame is apart, it's pretty cut and dry. But those corner metal things that hold the screws are not bent 90*. That was my toughest part, not so much making them, but getting the bend correct and the holes in the right spot. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 11 10:37:00 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:37:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Frank is Infamous Message-ID: In the UK I'm a licensed scrutineer so I know for definite what is mandatory and what is not. While some rules are mandatory at an international level some aren't and hence the probably. Modifications that are safety related rather than performance enhancing are the ones that are more probable than others. I'd be more specific but Iv'e forgotten the original subject matter! In a message dated 11/07/2008 01:19:59 GMT Daylight Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > It's probably mandatory in US racing. You say that as if there were some monolithic race sanctioning board. It is probably mandatory in some classes and strictly verboten in others. From kgrowler at aol.com Fri Jul 11 17:48:17 2008 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:48:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Who Wants To Drive A Millionaire Message-ID: <8CAB1C7BA2BEA49-BE4-16A4@webmail-da16.sysops.aol.com> $1.05 million and it doesn't even have the Top Gear wing on it? I'd hate to see what that runs on the option list. Probably a bit more for just the wing than the price of a Sprite. Maybe you take it in after purchase and have Clarkson, May and Hammond install it during which they set your million dollar car on fire. From dwgwater at hotmail.com Fri Jul 11 19:13:14 2008 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:13:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters In-Reply-To: <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com> <00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> Message-ID: check the plug wires. I had corrosion inside the cap, on the screws that hold the plug wires. Took forever to track down....... Dave 70 Midget > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: shop at justbrits.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:42:46 -0500> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters> > Okay....Have had enough of the fuunies with my car... When it is cold the> car run awesome. After about a 10 mile drive temp is 180 and then it starts> missing. Sounds like it is only running on two cylinders when the missing> starts. Checked the points, plugs, and fuel issues were dealt with at LOTO.> When you give it gas the missing tries to clear I think. After about an> hour sitting it starts right up and the same thing occurs again. I am> leaning towards possibly the coil. Any other ideas. I want it sooo badly> to run reliably:)> > Leo> > -----Original Message-----> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of> Ed's Shop> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:25 PM> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters> > < .... and Ed.>>> > Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL> > Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo thereof> (which IS better)!! No, I guess that would be !!> You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008> 6:33 AM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008> 6:33 AM _________________________________________________________________ Its a talkathon  but its not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 11 23:16:33 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:16:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MKIII top Message-ID: <472422403.20080711221633@pacifier.com> Hello , ebay item # 110268685046 anyone near buford georgia that could pick this up and ship it to me if i bought it?... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Guns don't kill people..., I kill people! From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 07:31:45 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:31:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation In-Reply-To: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> References: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430807120631o4163ef1eye0cdcaf81e61730e@mail.gmail.com> Wow Frank even you can't salvage it, it must be swiss cheese : ( ......how sad. Yes post a picture if you can for all to see. Lin On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I started dismantling the 63 Sprite that I acquired a few weeks ago, > It is beyond restoring even by me. But it had a dash, the temp gauge > works, disc brakes in the front and Bugeye type rear shoes. > What I noticed while tearing apart the rear suspension was a > metal/rubber closer plate that sealed the hole where the leaf springs > come out of the spring perches. > I never saw these on a Bugeye, and I have replaced the spring boxes on 2 > Bugeyes. But this MKII had them and the spring boxes are perfect. They > work! The car has no sills, no floors, and even the trunk floor rusted > into the gas tank but the spring boxes look like new. I never noticed > these pieces in any catalogs either. I would recommend these parts or > something similar made out of rubber to shield the dirt and grime from > getting into the spring hanger boxes. > Also if anyone wants a really rough MKII shell, come get it or the scrap > metal man will. > It is bad, no doors, no fenders, just a tub or what's left of a tub > after the tin worms had a feast for 20 years. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Jul 12 07:44:48 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:44:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation In-Reply-To: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> References: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> Message-ID: <64DE7C344E0C4B44917B25B5ACACAF60@Home> >But this MKII had them and the spring boxes are perfect. Earlier, someone asked about spray foam for dead spaces. The objection was the possibility of trapping water. But the spring boxes are open at the bottom and should drain easily, so maybe this is a good location for foam. It would have to be a bit flexible or it would crack with small movements. The urethane foam I have used around the house may be too brittle in thick pieces. Thin layers would be fine. It sticks to clean surfaces *very* tenaciously. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jul 12 08:03:50 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 9:03:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting observation Message-ID: <12826828.35241215871430486.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Personally, I would be sort of wary where you use it. I have had two different instances where it caused corrosion over time, one including wiring to a central air unit. Chris 66MKIII ---- Michael Rowe wrote: > >But this MKII had them and the spring boxes are perfect. > > Earlier, someone asked about spray foam for dead spaces. The objection was > the possibility of trapping water. But the spring boxes are open at the > bottom and should drain easily, so maybe this is a good location for foam. > It would have to be a bit flexible or it would crack with small movements. > The urethane foam I have used around the house may be too brittle in thick > pieces. Thin layers would be fine. It sticks to clean surfaces *very* > tenaciously. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 12 15:37:43 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:37:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List References: <12826828.35241215871430486.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web01-z02> Message-ID: <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. Anybody out there? From p.herder at cox.net Sat Jul 12 15:40:05 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:40:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List In-Reply-To: <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> References: <12826828.35241215871430486.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web01-z02> <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <487924B5.3050904@cox.net> Maybe? ;^) Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. > Anybody out there? > _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 12 15:43:55 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:43:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List In-Reply-To: <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: Well, I got your e-mail, but posts have been sparse. Three this morning, about four yesterday. Buster -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:38 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] List I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. Anybody out there? You are subscribed as b-evans at earthlink.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From herby at herbytoys.com Sat Jul 12 15:45:34 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:45:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List In-Reply-To: <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <000b01c8e468$9da7ca10$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Yeah, I've noticed the list has been quiet the past few days. I thought it was my email too. Guess everyone's out driving. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:38 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] List I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. Anybody out there? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Jul 12 15:46:29 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: List Message-ID: <273E499EA6154F2E95E47E0FE2D2D095@HomeComputer> Up? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:38 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] List I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. Anybody out there? _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 12 17:14:26 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:14:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List In-Reply-To: <00af01c8e467$850c4f40$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: Nope...you're all alone. > I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. > Anybody out there? From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 12 17:24:44 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:24:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List References: Message-ID: <00ca01c8e476$78777e30$4e947e4c@HP> Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "B- Evans" To: "'Larry & Sandi Miller'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] List > Well, I got your e-mail, but posts have been sparse. Three this morning, > about four yesterday. > > Buster > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Larry & Sandi Miller > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:38 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] List > > I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. > Anybody out there? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as b-evans at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jul 12 17:25:58 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:25:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List References: <000b01c8e468$9da7ca10$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <00cf01c8e476$a42c7530$4e947e4c@HP> My firewall suddenly decided that it would no longer allow internet access starting yesterday morning. I've been fighting it for two days. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herby" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] List > Yeah, I've noticed the list has been quiet the past few days. I thought it > was my email too. Guess everyone's out driving. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Larry & Sandi Miller > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:38 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] List > > I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. > Anybody out there? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 12 18:03:52 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:03:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List In-Reply-To: <00cf01c8e476$a42c7530$4e947e4c@HP> References: <000b01c8e468$9da7ca10$6501a8c0@HERBYZ> <00cf01c8e476$a42c7530$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807121703r55cd8e69l92eeb2918abce791@mail.gmail.com> So... The $20 I slipped your ISP guy worked! Cool! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > My firewall suddenly decided that it would no longer allow internet access > starting yesterday morning. I've been fighting it for two days. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Herby" > To: "'Spridgets'" > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] List > > > > Yeah, I've noticed the list has been quiet the past few days. I thought > it > > was my email too. Guess everyone's out driving. > > > > Herby > > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > > herby at herbytoys.com > > www.herbytoys.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby = > herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > > Larry & Sandi Miller > > Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:38 PM > > To: Spridgets > > Subject: [Spridgets] List > > > > I'm having email problems and can't determine if the list is up or down. > > Anybody out there? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Jul 12 18:16:30 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:16:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] List References: <000b01c8e468$9da7ca10$6501a8c0@HERBYZ><00cf01c8e476$a42c7530$4e947e4c@HP> <43840a7e0807121703r55cd8e69l92eeb2918abce791@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Jim, Any word on the LotO DVD? Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com 58 "Bugeye" From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 12 21:46:32 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:46:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield polishing Cerium oxide. Message-ID: If you ever wondered if the Cerium oxide polish kits that Eastwood & Whitney sells is any good... I would say "yes", but it took a little while to figure out the best technique. My case was two worn wiper "frosted" arcs on the driver's side. My good windshield cracked and this was my spare. The kit comes with a 3 inch felt pad and a jar of oxide powder. The polishing takes time. Probably took me a hour or so.. What I have found is that firm pressure and full speed of the drill made things move along at a reasonable rate. To do this means you must have the glass well supported. I used a big piece of Styrofoam from a packing box and placed this under the area I was working on. It sort of crushed to the shape of the glass. I also found it helpful to used some tape on the opposite side of the glass to mark off the area of concern. Once the glass is coated with the slurry it's a little hard to tell where things are and you don't want to waste time polishing areas that don't need it. A squeegee is useful to help reclaim some of the slurry. I think if I were to do it again I would build up a clay dam around the area to keep the slurry confined. A plug powered drill is best. You need the torque. The pad will want to orbit out of control, but if you bear your weight into it and keep it perpendicular to the glass it will stabilize. Once you get good you will run the drill full speed. Every so often you spray the area with water to keep the slurry wet. Final Result: All the frosting is gone, there are a few heavier scratches that remain but they are hardly noticeable. From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 22:40:21 2008 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Conversion problems Message-ID: <356408.7994.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, I am encountering major problems with a Datsun 5 Speed kit I have recently received. Although the adapter plate fits excellent, the rear trans mount is too high and will not allow rear movement. Due to this, the fan hits the radiator. I already had to bash the heck out of the bottom of the heater duct and the top of the transmission tunnel to just get it to fit and so the driveshaft wouldn't hit. Will an earlier fan/pulley work better since I have the 1275 plastic fan/cast iron pulley type? Suggestions? Ditch the kit and reinstall the original 4 speed ribcase? Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 From davriker at nwi.net Sat Jul 12 22:40:22 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:40:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget References: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> <016201c8e23f$5efac950$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <002a01c8e4a2$8feb5a60$6600a8c0@dave> I am planning on a meeting with the insurance company this week to "negotiate". I tallied at todays retail prices all of the items I have bought new over the years on Moss' site, and am at about $20k not even figuring the paint, upholstery or any labor. I am still considering buying another car, and moving all my parts over to it. The body shop manager at work assures me he and his team can sort the front frame rails and alignment out, and even offered to do it on the side on a Saturday when they are normally closed. Looking back at everything I've replaced and done, seems like I am building enough of a file to keep them from totalling it, and still get a decent settlement. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "'David Riker'" Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:50 AM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget That sounds nice! Keeping it? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Riker Sent: July 9, 2008 11:45 PM To: Leo; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sat Jul 12 22:50:06 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] rust in outer sill Message-ID: <114537.82787.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, I have some rust in my LH-outer sill, along the bottom edge at the front. It's more than just fizz really and a 2 inch x 3 inch section is starting to look particularly nasty. I am wondering whether the outer sill can be replaced without a major teardown, or whether a section can be repaired without relying too much on bog (bondo) to do it. Having never done it before and this car having had several previous owners....there is every chance that it already contains untold amounts of filler...I guess a magnet could tell me. I'm no welder but I work with boiler makers who are, and are open to payments in cartons of beer. If any experts would care to see a pic and offer advice, i can email a photo or two. cheers Andy Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 12 22:50:32 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tilton Clutch Message-ID: <89244.46860.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone out there using a 3 piece Tilton clutch setup with solid disc? Email me if so.... Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 12 23:23:49 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:23:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Conversion problems In-Reply-To: <356408.7994.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <356408.7994.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <839565BB-0964-48EC-9A01-471DE17420DA@comcast.net> Rivergate kit is my guess.. I had the same problem.. I called and asked if I would void anything by leaving out those thick rubber bits. A quick look and you will see that there is some stuff on the rear support that was designed to take a VERY rough road. i removed one layer of rubber and things went in much better. Lester On Jul 12, 2008, at 11:40 PM, Mike Rivers wrote: > Hi, > > I am encountering major problems with a Datsun 5 Speed kit I have > recently received. Although the adapter plate fits excellent, the > rear trans mount is too high and will not allow rear movement. Due > to this, the fan hits the radiator. I already had to bash the heck > out of the bottom of the heater duct and the top of the transmission > tunnel to just get it to fit and so the driveshaft wouldn't hit. > Will an earlier fan/pulley work better since I have the 1275 plastic > fan/cast iron pulley type? > > Suggestions? Ditch the kit and reinstall the original 4 speed > ribcase? > > Mike Rivers > 1961 MG Midget 1275 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 13 00:09:42 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:09:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top Message-ID: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, .. Hey, I "won" the top on ebay 110268685046... and he's going to ship it.. too cool..... now, where can i get ... the latches? are they the same latches used on the soft top?... i presume that they are.. i can have the rods/clamps made to go thru the side mounting dooo-dahs, but what about the rear sealing gasket and the roll up window gaskets? what will work as a suitable replacement, as i assume that these things are NOT available? or are they?.. ed?... frank?..... peter? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "We'll need a higher price at auction," Tom said morbidly. (*2) From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 07:12:53 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:12:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield polishing Cerium oxide. Message-ID: <071320081312.25944.4879FF550004A0B0000065582216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> I, too, would "amen" the Eastwood windshield polishing kit. I have been polishing out wiper marks on a replacement windshield that will replace a badly fogged windshield on my '79. It has done a pretty good job of erasing all but the deepest marks made by the wipers. I understand that Eastwood has recently offered a kit that is "heavier" that will polish out the deeper scratches (those that catch your fingernail as you scratch across them). --David C. WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Dean Hedin" > If you ever wondered if the Cerium oxide polish kits that > Eastwood & Whitney sells is any good... > > I would say "yes", but it took a little while to figure out the > best technique. > > My case was two worn wiper "frosted" arcs on the driver's side. > My good windshield cracked and this was my spare. > > The kit comes with a 3 inch felt pad and a jar of oxide powder. > > The polishing takes time. Probably took me a hour or so.. > What I have found is that firm pressure and full speed of the drill > made things move along at a reasonable rate. > > To do this means you must have the glass well supported. > I used a big piece of Styrofoam from a packing box and placed > this under the area I was working on. It sort of crushed to the > shape of the glass. > > I also found it helpful to used some tape on the opposite side of > the glass to mark off the area of concern. Once the glass is > coated with the slurry it's a little hard to tell where things are and > you don't want to waste time polishing areas that don't need it. > > A squeegee is useful to help reclaim some of the slurry. I think if I > were to do it again I would build up a clay dam around the area to > keep the slurry confined. > > A plug powered drill is best. You need the torque. The pad will > want to orbit out of control, but if you bear your weight into it and > keep it perpendicular to the glass it will stabilize. Once you get > good you will run the drill full speed. > > Every so often you spray the area with water to keep the slurry wet. > > Final Result: All the frosting is gone, there are a few heavier scratches > that remain but they are hardly noticeable. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jul 13 07:54:36 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:54:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rust in outer sill In-Reply-To: <114537.82787.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000901c8e4ef$fced83c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Andy, Depends on how you define "major tear-down", and how original you want it to look. If it's done wrong, it'll stick out like the proverbial sore thumb. The key consideration is how you plan to connect the outer sill to the A post, and the rear quarter (the seam between the door opening and the rear wheel arch). Since both seams are structural elements, they are important. I now pre-fit and attach the lower sections of the A post and rear quarter to the outer sill, before attaching the outer sill to the tub. Then, you will have two horizontal butt seams to make....yeah, you CAN lap them (easier, by far), but it's tidier with a butt seam. On my latest project, I got the butt welds laid down so beautifully that they hardly needed any filler to smooth them over. Unfortunately, the arc of the panel, from top to bottom, was interrupted ever so slightly by the new section that it shows, when viewed from the right angle, and I'm going to have to re-configure both areas over the up-coming winter. As far has having one of the local boiler makers do your welding....probably not a great idea, unless the guy has done it before. Welding plate & structural steel is far different, and FAR easier than welding thin, very easily warped automotive sheet steel. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Webster Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 11:50 PM To: spridgets; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] rust in outer sill Greetings, I have some rust in my LH-outer sill, along the bottom edge at the front. It's more than just fizz really and a 2 inch x 3 inch section is starting to look particularly nasty. I am wondering whether the outer sill can be replaced without a major teardown, or whether a section can be repaired without relying too much on bog (bondo) to do it. Having never done it before and this car having had several previous owners....there is every chance that it already contains untold amounts of filler...I guess a magnet could tell me. I'm no welder but I work with boiler makers who are, and are open to payments in cartons of beer. If any experts would care to see a pic and offer advice, i can email a photo or two. cheers Andy From smarc at smarc.net Sun Jul 13 07:40:51 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:40:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Winshield polishing Cerium oxide. In-Reply-To: <071320081312.25944.4879FF550004A0B0000065582216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> References: <071320081312.25944.4879FF550004A0B0000065582216548686C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487A05E3.50405@smarc.net> Yep, the stuff does work. You can see my results at http://www.smarc.net/MG/midget/glasspolish/index.html I still think my time would have been better spent replacing the glass. dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > I, too, would "amen" the Eastwood windshield polishing kit. > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Dean Hedin" > >> If you ever wondered if the Cerium oxide polish kits that >> Eastwood & Whitney sells is any good... >> >> I would say "yes", but it took a little while to figure out the >> best technique. >> >> -- Marc smarc at smarc.net DISCLAIMER: Do not write below this line. Void where prohibited. No postage necessary if mailed in the United States. Batteries not included. Simulated picture. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. May cause drowsiness. No user-serviceable parts inside. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Sign here without admitting guilt. No purchase necessary. Contestants have been briefed on some questions before the show. First pull up, then pull down. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. This supersedes all previous notices. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 13 08:56:03 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top In-Reply-To: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <344113.8415.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congrats on winning the top. I must be reading ther rest of your email incorrectly though, because it sounds like you apparently want to USE the top. Even crazier - this talk of seals and sutch - someone hasn't told you silly tales of the tops actually keeping water out of the interior, have they? I thought everybody knew these top thingies are just a bit of dressing to soften the transition between the rear edge of the bendy-soft interior surfaces and the flat hard metal of the trunk... - David --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Bill L wrote: From: Bill L Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 1:09 AM Hello Spridgets, .. Hey, I "won" the top on ebay 110268685046... and he's going to ship it.. too cool..... now, where can i get ... the latches? are they the same latches used on the soft top?... i presume that they are.. i can have the rods/clamps made to go thru the side mounting dooo-dahs, but what about the rear sealing gasket and the roll up window gaskets? what will work as a suitable replacement, as i assume that these things are NOT available? or are they?.. ed?... frank?..... peter? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "We'll need a higher price at auction," Tom said morbidly. (*2) You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jul 13 09:15:24 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:15:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top In-Reply-To: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> References: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill I have a pair of the latches that you can have. I'll bring them to ABFM. Bill > Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 23:09:42 -0700 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top > > Hello Spridgets, > > .. > > Hey, I "won" the top on ebay 110268685046... > > > and he's going to ship it.. too cool..... > > now, where can i get ... the latches? are they the same latches used > on the soft top?... i presume that they are.. > > i can have the rods/clamps made to go thru the side mounting > dooo-dahs, but what about the rear sealing gasket and the roll up > window gaskets? > > > what will work as a suitable replacement, as i assume that these > things are NOT available? or are they?.. > > ed?... frank?..... peter? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "We'll need a higher price at auction," Tom said morbidly. (*2) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Jul 13 13:09:02 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:09:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeyes on eBay Message-ID: <20080713.140902.1992.1.dmeadow@juno.com> Someone might be interested in some Bugeye parts. Reportedly an upstanding individual selling them, according to the Production Racing forum: eBay item #140249092282 ____________________________________________________________ Start your medical billing career! Click here for more information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ol4JmwxjXpLJSe6wZE5d1GYZacaAsB1lo8v1yhrhlYjRsI0/ From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Jul 13 13:54:59 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:54:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor / Datsun 4 x 4.5 lug spacing Message-ID: About using the Datsun 4 x 4.5 pattern on a Morris Minor For what it is worth, I could have sworn I saw this done as part of a front disc brake conversion on a Minor that was using a 210 back axle. (It was probably a few years ago at an All British Field Meet in either Bellevue or Portland.) If memory serves, a machinist had drilled the hub for the new lugs in between the existing 4x4 Spridget pattern. The end result was a hub that had both the 4x4 and 4x4.5 patterns. Again, if memory serves, the car owner claimed not to have had experienced any problems. I took a quick look for the pictures but haven't found them yet. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 13 14:35:32 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top In-Reply-To: <344113.8415.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> <344113.8415.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <845515154.20080713133532@pacifier.com> Hello David, while i don't expect the top to keep the rain out, i don't want it to scratch the paint all to heck and gone either.. that's rubber "sea"l at the back will be used for.. not expecting to have a NO LEAK GAP... the window seals are to keep it from whistling too loudly.. not keep the rain out.. i know better.... But thanx for the reminder and the vote of confidence in british engineering and weather protection... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Excuse me, I have to recharge my flamethrower. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 17:11:25 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump connection answer.. Message-ID: <09888201-6DBD-447A-ABA0-BAF2C9731070@comcast.net> Well now I know and I want you to know, the connection between the fuel line and the fuel pump is a compression fitting on a 1/4" fuel line. It takes a 1/2" x 20 fitting for a 1/4" line. No flare, No double flare, No bubble flare. Just a $ .20 compression fitting on a straight line. Lester From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Jul 13 18:09:54 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:09:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Conversion problems In-Reply-To: <356408.7994.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <356408.7994.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016201c8e545$f2dad170$697ba8c0@edgewireless.com> I had the same issues. 1961 mkII and radiator, 1275 with plastic fan.. If you can put a steel fan on it's not as "deep" and will clear. Or go with a later cross-flow radiator. Also not as thick.. Once you drive behind that 5-speed, you'll never want to go back. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rivers Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:40 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Conversion problems Hi, I am encountering major problems with a Datsun 5 Speed kit I have recently received. Although the adapter plate fits excellent, the rear trans mount is too high and will not allow rear movement. Due to this, the fan hits the radiator. I already had to bash the heck out of the bottom of the heater duct and the top of the transmission tunnel to just get it to fit and so the driveshaft wouldn't hit. Will an earlier fan/pulley work better since I have the 1275 plastic fan/cast iron pulley type? Suggestions? Ditch the kit and reinstall the original 4 speed ribcase? Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 18:21:53 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:21:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rust in outer sill In-Reply-To: <114537.82787.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <114537.82787.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487A9C21.70502@comcast.net> Andy Webster wrote: > Greetings, > I have some rust in my LH-outer sill, along the bottom edge at the front. > It's more than just fizz really and a 2 inch x 3 inch section is starting to > look particularly nasty. > I am wondering whether the outer sill can be replaced without a major > teardown, Replacing the whole sill is a major teardown, Patching a 3" square hole is much easier. As long as the hole is not at the edge but if it is, that can be patched too, it just takes a little more fabrication to get the curve and/or bend over to look correct. If the rest of the rocker is in good condition, I would just pick up some metal and make a patch. Cur the rust out completely, try to make a nice square hole, cut a piece of sheetmetal about 1 inch larger both ways from your hole,(1/2 inch each side) now put a sheetmetal screw in the middle of it to act as a handle, fish the patch inside your rocker hole. You might have to cut a couple slits in the rocker to get the patch inside. Now hold the screw and pull the patch tight to the inside of the rocker. A couple more screws (self drillers) to hold it in place, tack weld it, remove the screws, weld up the holes, finish welding around the patch and a skim of bondo over the whole thing and it's done in a couple hours. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 18:25:02 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MK III top In-Reply-To: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> References: <735714485.20080712230942@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <487A9CDE.1000508@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > what about the rear sealing gasket and the roll up > window gaskets? > Check the JC Whitney catalog, they have suitable weatherstripping that works or is an exact replacement for what was originally used. Look carefully at the profiles in the book. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 13 18:23:09 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:23:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rust in outer sill In-Reply-To: <487A9C21.70502@comcast.net> Message-ID: > a little more fabrication to get the curve and/or > bend over to look correct. Or you can buy a sill and just cut out the part you need. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 13 18:26:05 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:26:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Speed Conversion problems In-Reply-To: <016201c8e545$f2dad170$697ba8c0@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: > Although the adapter plate fits excellent, the rear trans mount > is too high and will not allow rear movement. I know it's a short drive shaft, but the transmission and the differential housing should still be on the same plain. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 13 18:39:28 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:39:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- Chicagoland Speedway Tickets Message-ID: <043601c8e54a$13dc3b80$6401a8c0@Larry> For you roundy-rounder fans: My neighbor has 5 tickets to the ARCA 200 race and the Indy Car 300 race at Chicagoland Speedway on Sept. 6 and 7, respectively. He doesn't need/want them and is willing to part with them cheap. Each ARCA ticket is $35 face value and the Indy Car race is $37. He will take $30 total for both days per seat -- sold together. That's $30 for $72 face per seat. Sold only in batches of either 2 or 3 tickets. Seats are Sec 121, Row 22, Seat 5 & 6; or Sec 129, Row 17, Seat 18, 19, & 20. Good seats he tells me. I wouldn't know. If you want them, let me know ASAP or they go on eBay. NFI, except he said he would buy a bottle of cheap, rot-gut whiskey to split if one of you guys buys them. OK? (That's about as close to NFI as you can get, right?) LAD From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Jul 13 19:20:41 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style Message-ID: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> No, not trading paint in the "roundy - round" NASCAR sense, but trading paint samples of "OE White" paint. When I had my '66 Sprite painted last Nov, the paint shop used RM Paint (RM 1633), Ford M, Wimbledon White. This was a base coat / clear coat job (lost some of the purists there, I'll bet). Just recently Dean Hedin did his Sprite with Rustoleum "Antique White" (just lost a few more). Then there was the discussion on the list of what color is Old English White. Just for fun, Dean and I exchanged paint chip samples so we could each do a side by side comparison. Here's what I noticed. First, remember that when I compare color chips, Dean's paint is enamel with the "shine built in" and my Wimbledon White has no shine by itself. I prepared one half of my sample by using a clear coat from a rattle can - a Duplicolor product. Not using the RM clear coat stuff screws up this comparison, I know, but the RM clear coat stuff is that 2 part product with a short shelf life. I didn't have any clear available. The verdict. . . they are very, very close. I'm not sure that in a gathering of Spridgets that were painted OEW, Wimbledon White, Antique White and some of the other possibilities that anyone would get 100% on a quiz to correctly identify the various paints. Mine WW would probably show up as being too shiny but I believe the shine in the clear coat can be toned down had I chosen to request that. Maybe the Restoleum is to shiny too, but I'm talking color here - not shine. I do know that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between the cost of the paints. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 13 20:00:15 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Python - no LBC Message-ID: <943619.41550.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Slow list. I've been looking for a DVD of one of my favorite all time movies, Secret Policeman's Other Ball, and came across this clip from it: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo&feature=related Kinda sounds like the list in mid winter when Buster gets crotchety ;) Ron From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Jul 13 20:58:50 2008 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:58:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content In-Reply-To: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> References: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <487AC0EA.60302@cox.net> Jack Laird wrote: >H1 carbs. > >I have been haveing more problems than the law allows. Think I have solved >most of them now but. > >When I put the unisync to one of the carbs it covers the(1/4") hole in the >body that goes inside and causes the engine to jump maybe 1K rpm. The hole is >next to the large hole in the body inside which is the butterfly. I always >thought it was an air balance thing. > >What is that hole for and why would it now be doing this. You can also put >your thumb on the hole and raise the rpm. > >HELP > > That hole leads to the chamber below the carb piston. You don't want to block it. I've never gotten any satisfactory results from a unisyn; on either LBC's or motorcycles. For the BC's, I use the standard SU tool kit. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 13 22:02:26 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:02:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <025e01c8e566$6dce2330$6501a8c0@shop> <<(lost some of the purists there, I'll bet). >> Most likely, Tim !! LOL <> but does in single stage! <> I do believe that the above DOES qualify for The Statement of The Year Award, Tim !!!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 13 22:04:13 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:04:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor / Datsun 4 x 4.5 lug spacing References: Message-ID: <026401c8e566$ad99ecb0$6501a8c0@shop> <> I DO recall the story, Pete. Never heard if it WAS true tho. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 21:41:13 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:41:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <802622BD941A4370A324F211D8A42E35@blackbox2> Yea, Close enough, AND to be able to walk into any home improvement center or hardware store for the next umpteen years to pick up a can of touch up is priceless. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style > The verdict. . . they are very, very close. I'm not sure that in a > gathering of Spridgets that were painted OEW, Wimbledon White, > Antique White and some of the other possibilities that anyone would > get 100% on a quiz to correctly identify the various paints. From barry.lacy at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 06:11:45 2008 From: barry.lacy at comcast.net (Barry Lacy) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:11:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080708134555.0374aba8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080708144033.033039d8@nosimport.com><00e301c8e173$5280a3b0$6501a8c0@shop> <00a001c8e16d$7d444490$77cccdb0$@net> Message-ID: <001901c8e5aa$c9d4d9f0$6401a8c0@TK421> Leo, What's the lastest on this? I had a similar problem on my way down and back from LotO. I've pretty much exhausted all my options and it still persists. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "'Ed's Shop'" ; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > Okay....Have had enough of the fuunies with my car... When it is cold the > car run awesome. After about a 10 mile drive temp is 180 and then it > starts > missing. Sounds like it is only running on two cylinders when the missing > starts. Checked the points, plugs, and fuel issues were dealt with at > LOTO. > When you give it gas the missing tries to clear I think. After about an > hour sitting it starts right up and the same thing occurs again. I am > leaning towards possibly the coil. Any other ideas. I want it sooo badly > to run reliably:) > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Ed's Shop > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:25 PM > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel take carbon and vapor filters > > < .... and Ed.>> > > Which did NOT seem to be a prob, PPP!!! LOL > > Hey, it's either TIMING with the dual Vicodines OR brewskis OR combo > thereof > (which IS better)!! No, I guess that would be !! > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.6/1540 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 6:33 AM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as barry.lacy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 14 07:25:21 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:25:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Unisync/Uni-Syn adjusting guidelines from 1969 In-Reply-To: <039f01c8dd0a$03c1e7b0$e5b10144@maind> References: <039f01c8dd0a$03c1e7b0$e5b10144@maind> Message-ID: <006a01c8e5b5$1247b630$161af304@spider> Sync dual SU Volvo carbs (prior to 1970's) 1. warm up engine 2. Screw up mixture nuts all the way and then down 2 turns. up = leaner, down = richer. (this is the nut at the bottom of the carb) 3. loosen up throttle shaft couplings 4. adjust idles so carb air intake is the same, engine running (use Unisync) 5. run adjuster nut down until smooth running; or up until rough running and then back down 6. adjust idles so they are the same(repeat back and forth steps 4 thru 6) Stall indicates other carb is too lean when you push up the piston pin at the side of the carb (so you'd turn down on its richness adjustment screw) 7. do a final idle check on both carbs using Unisync. 8. tighten nuts on throttle shafts If you need to avoid blocking holes on face of carb with Unisync base, cut off both ends of a can. I use and old STP Gas Treatment can (8 oz.) or a Hunt's Tomato Paste can (6 oz.) Rubber tape around the card end can prevent air leakage there if that appears to be a problem. .bill in oregon From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 14 07:49:39 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:49:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SU Float Bowl results - NGK Message-ID: <32458801.1216043379801.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks so much all of you guys that helped me. You all were right as expected. The float bowl needles had junk in them. I cleaned them over the weekend. Can anyone tell me the standard NGK plug number to run in a 948 engine that is souped up a bit? Thanks, Mike Carpenter ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 14 07:55:54 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:55:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Float Bowl results - NGK In-Reply-To: <32458801.1216043379801.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.s a.earthlink.net> References: <32458801.1216043379801.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080714085346.03ca5928@nosimport.com> Bp6es or SKU 7333 Or, if you have a radio or other electronic devise wanting some resistance to interference, BpR6es or 7131 PPP === At 08:49 AM 7/14/2008, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >Thanks so much all of you guys that helped me. You all were right >as expected. The float bowl needles had junk in them. I cleaned >them over the weekend. > >Can anyone tell me the standard NGK plug number to run in a 948 >engine that is souped up a bit? > >Thanks, > >Mike Carpenter From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 14 08:33:19 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:33:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content References: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> <487AC0EA.60302@cox.net> Message-ID: <642E1BE5E64A4F98A62DA7483D117823@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> A foot long piece of garden hose. One end in ear, the other shifted quickly back and forth to the bottom of the piston on either carb to check the "hiss". Its the poor man's uni-sync. Oh, yeah, it actually works very well. Glen Byrns > > I've never gotten any satisfactory results from a unisyn; on either > LBC's or motorcycles. For the BC's, I use the standard SU tool kit. > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 14 08:47:27 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:47:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> With all the white, black, silver and gray cars on the road today, I just can't bring myself to paint ANY of may cars OEW. No matter how "perfect" the shade, it will just look like another of today's colorless cars. My Austin A35 was "Country Cream" (Austin's OEW) according to the Heritage certificate. I still couldn't bring myself to paint it that "color" and opted for a nice grayish blue. Nice to know that if I ever give up the crusade against colorless cars, Rustoleum will be there for me. The new Morris pickup in the family is goint to be leaf green with beige interior. Purists can debate if the interior is beige, white, off-white, eggshell, ecru, OEW, Country Cream, or Wimbledon white. Glen > Just for fun, Dean and I exchanged paint chip samples so we could > each do a side by side comparison. Here's what I noticed. First, > remember that when I compare color chips, Dean's paint is enamel with > the "shine built in" and my Wimbledon White has no shine by itself. I > prepared one half of my sample by using a clear coat from a rattle > can - a Duplicolor product. Not using the RM clear coat stuff screws > up this comparison, I know, but the RM clear coat stuff is that 2 > part product with a short shelf life. I didn't have any clear available. > > The verdict. . . they are very, very close. I'm not sure that in a > gathering of Spridgets that were painted OEW, Wimbledon White, > Antique White and some of the other possibilities that anyone would > get 100% on a quiz to correctly identify the various paints. Mine WW > would probably show up as being too shiny but I believe the shine in > the clear coat can be toned down had I chosen to request that. Maybe > the Restoleum is to shiny too, but I'm talking color here - not > shine. I do know that there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between the > cost of the paints. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jul 14 10:12:40 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:12:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It develops empathy, strength of character, and a sense of visual aesthetics. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:32 PM To: Deikis, John G; Bill L; Mark A. O'Neil Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another use for CATS Why torture animals when there are so many Liberals available? From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net Mon Jul 14 10:24:27 2008 From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:24:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Metal repair Message-ID: <14401592.1216052668055.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> OK, some bonehead questions: Frank Clarici wrote: b Cut the rust out completely, try to make a nice square hole, cut a piece of sheetmetal about 1 inch largerb Where would you go for this sheetmetal and what do you ask for (type of metal and thickness)? b Or you can buy a sill and just cut out the part you needb What kind of a joint would you make between new and old? Thanks in advance for advice. Cheers, Adrian From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Mon Jul 14 10:53:39 2008 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Metal repair In-Reply-To: <14401592.1216052668055.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14401592.1216052668055.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <487B8493.4080803@lehigh.edu> Adrian Jones wrote: > OK, some bonehead questions: > > Frank Clarici wrote: > b Cut the rust out completely, try to make a nice square hole, cut a piece > of sheetmetal about 1 inch largerb > > Where would you go for this sheetmetal and what do you ask for (type of metal > and thickness)? > > What kind of a joint would you make between new and old? > Ask for 20 gauge cold rolled steel (.036" thick). You don't want hot rolled or galvanized. Look for a roofing supply co. and they will have the square shears to cut a piece, or an auto body supply company who will probably sell it in 2'x4' pieces. Frank described the quickest and easiest method to patch a panel, i.e. a lap joint, and you won't have as much distortion or require much plastic filler either. On my projects I typically do butt welds, but need to spend lots of time on fitup and welding. Cutting pieces from 20 Ga. with aviation snips requires a strong grip and forearms, so prepare accordingly. John Fogelsville, PA From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 14 11:16:19 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:16:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Metal repair In-Reply-To: <14401592.1216052668055.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: There are lots of books on the subjects of welding, old car restoration, and bodywork. They usually have good pictures. You can find books specific to Spridgets, but all old cars go together pretty much the same. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jul 14 12:42:05 2008 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SU Float Bowl results - NGK In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080714085346.03ca5928@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <485520.55913.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have a 948, +.040 , 12G295 head, 88G 229 cam, LCB header, BP6ES work great. Rick --- On Mon, 7/14/08, Peter C wrote: From: Peter C Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Float Bowl results - NGK To: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 14, 2008, 9:55 AM Bp6es or SKU 7333 Or, if you have a radio or other electronic devise wanting some resistance to interference, BpR6es or 7131 PPP === At 08:49 AM 7/14/2008, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >Thanks so much all of you guys that helped me. You all were right >as expected. The float bowl needles had junk in them. I cleaned >them over the weekend. > >Can anyone tell me the standard NGK plug number to run in a 948 >engine that is souped up a bit? > >Thanks, > >Mike Carpenter You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 12:57:47 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:57:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out to Mark Endicott Message-ID: I hope I spelled your name right, but I wanted to let everyone know how kind you are, for the wiring schematic and parts for hooking up my Raydyot lamps. I was drafted to come to work yesterday, not to work, but to be here "just in case". Since I am salary, I didn't have a choice, but, I did opt to bring in a project. I brought in the Sprite, a box of old wiring harnesses, and your packet. I don't know if it's because I am "electrically challenged" (SHUT UP ED!!!) but it took me around 5 hours to get everything in the car, just right. Even "I" was able to figure out the schematic, and get all the wires run unobtrusively, and does it work a treat. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING!! Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 14 13:15:00 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:15:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shout out to Mark Endicott In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080714140822.039b0720@nosimport.com> I will climb on the band wagon. Mark sent me an audio file of my Mini at the autocross. Cool. I have never heard my car before. Peter C. === At 01:57 PM 7/14/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >I hope I spelled your name right, but I wanted to let everyone know how kind >you are, for the wiring schematic and parts for hooking up my Raydyot lamps. > >I was drafted to come to work yesterday, not to work, but to be here "just >in case". Since I am salary, I didn't have a choice, but, I did opt to bring >in a project. >I brought in the Sprite, a box of old wiring harnesses, and your packet. I >don't know if it's because I am "electrically challenged" (SHUT UP ED!!!) >but it took me around 5 hours to get everything in the car, just right. Even >"I" was able to figure out the schematic, and get all the wires run >unobtrusively, and does it work a treat. >THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING!! > >Brad From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 14:40:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style In-Reply-To: <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <487BB9A9.5090506@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > > Purists can debate if the interior is beige, white, off-white, eggshell, > ecru, OEW, Country Cream, or Wimbledon white. > > What about biscuit, saddle, camel, tan, or buckskin? I often wondered what color biscuit was, and is it the inside of a biscuit? Outside of a biscuit? Burnt biscuit? raw biscuit? why not call it beige! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 14 15:15:50 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style In-Reply-To: <487BB9A9.5090506@comcast.net> References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu>, <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, <487BB9A9.5090506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487B5F96.16424.1A1CBA0@dmg.bossig.com> It's the color of the outside of an English tea biscuit (Read "Cookie" in American) ... such as 'Nice' or 'Teatime'... And don't forget to ask your wife. GF, SO (or whatever) about 'Taupe' On 14 Jul 2008 at 16:40, Frank Clarici wrote: >> I often wondered what color biscuit was, and is it the inside of a >> biscuit? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Always be wary of any helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual" Terry Pratchett From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 14 16:11:57 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:11:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting Message-ID: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> What a perfect day! 100 degrees, no shade, and all the "free" Morris Minor parts you can harvest. I spent the day in the sun ripping out the windscreen, steering wheel, gas tank and front and rear suspension off a Morris Minor sedan. The parts will eventually become part of my new Morris pickup. Unfortunately, I could only harvest from the left side this weekend and will have to go back next weekend to finish it off. There was a LARGE active paper-wasp next in the box of parts sitting next to the passenger door. After I grabbed all I could from the left side, I tossed a large rock into the nest and ran like heck to the waiting escape car and took off. Maybe by next Saturday they'll be gone and I can finsih the job. Anybody need a free 948 and smoothcase? I won't ship, but I'll drag it home and hold it for you if you really want one. The condition is:"dumped in the bushes ??years ago, rained on and filled with wasps and mud." Please don't ask if it turns over. Glen Byrns From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jul 14 16:12:12 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:12:12 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content References: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> <487AC0EA.60302@cox.net> <642E1BE5E64A4F98A62DA7483D117823@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Screen wash pipe work OK as well. You are comparing like with like so make sure you are listening at the same place on each carb. (Usually just before the bottom of the piston, so you can rest the pipe in the airflow at the bottom of the piston.) Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content >A foot long piece of garden hose. One end in ear, the other shifted >quickly > back and forth to the bottom of the piston on either carb to check the > "hiss". Its the poor man's uni-sync. Oh, yeah, it actually works very > well. > > Glen Byrns > >> >> I've never gotten any satisfactory results from a unisyn; on either >> LBC's or motorcycles. For the BC's, I use the standard SU tool kit. >> >> Cheers, >> Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 14 16:37:33 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:37:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> <487AC0EA.60302@cox.net> <642E1BE5E64A4F98A62DA7483D117823@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080714173455.03620568@nosimport.com> I prefer the German tool kit with the wires that fit in the pistons. They don't change or block the air flow, and they work at all RPMs so you can watch what happens at 2500or more. The hose is good, and better than the Unisyn, IMHO.... Peter C. = At 05:12 PM 7/14/2008, Guy R Day wrote: >Screen wash pipe work OK as well. You are comparing like with like so make >sure you are listening at the same place on each carb. (Usually just before >the bottom of the piston, so you can rest the pipe in the airflow at the >bottom of the piston.) > >Guy R Day > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glen Byrns" >To: "Spridgets" >Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:33 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content > > > >A foot long piece of garden hose. One end in ear, the other shifted > >quickly > > back and forth to the bottom of the piston on either carb to check the > > "hiss". Its the poor man's uni-sync. Oh, yeah, it actually works very > > well. > > > > Glen Byrns > > > >> > >> I've never gotten any satisfactory results from a unisyn; on either > >> LBC's or motorcycles. For the BC's, I use the standard SU tool kit. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Dave Ambrose From bugi1960 at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 16:57:03 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:57:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Python - no LBC In-Reply-To: <943619.41550.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <943619.41550.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: They have winter in SoCal? Phil Nase On Jul 13, 2008, at 10:00 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Slow list. I've been looking for a DVD of one of my favorite all > time movies, Secret Policeman's Other Ball, and came across this > clip from it: > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo&feature=related > > Kinda sounds like the list in mid winter when Buster gets crotchety ;) > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugi1960 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 17:08:38 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:08:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting In-Reply-To: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807141608h46036dckea2215c21e905c4e@mail.gmail.com> I dunno Glen.... The wasps in my back yard this evening were talking about getting a national emergency revenge group together somewhere in California. They said something about millions of them hiding in wait for some home-wrecking SOB.... ;-) Oh... Of course I learned "wasp" from the Rosetta Stone DVD........ Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > What a perfect day! 100 degrees, no shade, and all the "free" Morris Minor > parts you can harvest. I spent the day in the sun ripping out the > windscreen, > steering wheel, gas tank and front and rear suspension off a Morris Minor > sedan. The parts will eventually become part of my new Morris pickup. > Unfortunately, I could only harvest from the left side this weekend and > will > have to go back next weekend to finish it off. There was a LARGE active > paper-wasp next in the box of parts sitting next to the passenger door. > After > I grabbed all I could from the left side, I tossed a large rock into the > nest > and ran like heck to the waiting escape car and took off. Maybe by next > Saturday they'll be gone and I can finsih the job. Anybody need a free 948 > and smoothcase? I won't ship, but I'll drag it home and hold it for you if > you really want one. The condition is:"dumped in the bushes ??years ago, > rained on and filled with wasps and mud." Please don't ask if it turns > over. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 17:13:25 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:13:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... Message-ID: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> Anybody know what size wrench will fit the brake adjuster on the MKIII's ? I tried everything I have... 9mm works a little if you twist it just right but slips a lot. 8mm won't go over the square stud. The Haynes says use a "brake wrench" but I can't find one of them that fits either. -- Cheers!! Jim From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 14 17:40:54 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1208033790.20080714164054@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, my brake wrench says 5/16 .. square. and has a 1/4 square on the other end. at LotO both Bill M. and David Lieb had ratcheting square drive wrenches that had sizes 1/4 5/16 and 3/8. they said they got them from air conditioning/ductwork supply houses... .. worked much better than the off-set brake wrench specific tools sold by Moss and VB, since once on the adjuster is was click click click instead of having to get on and off the adjuster.... one person's was about 4" and the other about 6" long.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dentist : he lives from hand to mouth. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 14 17:53:34 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:53:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004b01c8e60c$d4d84b40$f21cf304@spider> Whitworth. ...really -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 4:13 PM To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... Anybody know what size wrench will fit the brake adjuster on the MKIII's ? I tried everything I have... 9mm works a little if you twist it just right but slips a lot. 8mm won't go over the square stud. The Haynes says use a "brake wrench" but I can't find one of them that fits either. -- Cheers!! Jim _______________________________________________ From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 14 18:11:22 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:11:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content References: <000c01c8e2f0$8fb96720$6401a8c0@personal> <487AC0EA.60302@cox.net><642E1BE5E64A4F98A62DA7483D117823@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080714173455.03620568@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <003801c8e60f$50a15f30$6401a8c0@personal> Looks like I need one of those wire balance kits on my list. Hmmm, wonder if I can make one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Guy R Day" ; "Glen Byrns" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content >I prefer the German tool kit with the wires that fit in the pistons. > They don't change or block the air flow, and they work at all RPMs so > you can watch what happens at 2500or more. The hose is good, and > better than the Unisyn, IMHO.... > Peter C. > = > At 05:12 PM 7/14/2008, Guy R Day wrote: >>Screen wash pipe work OK as well. You are comparing like with like so >>make >>sure you are listening at the same place on each carb. (Usually just >>before >>the bottom of the piston, so you can rest the pipe in the airflow at the >>bottom of the piston.) >> >>Guy R Day >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Glen Byrns" >>To: "Spridgets" >>Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 3:33 PM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carbs LBC content >> >> >> >A foot long piece of garden hose. One end in ear, the other shifted >> >quickly >> > back and forth to the bottom of the piston on either carb to check the >> > "hiss". Its the poor man's uni-sync. Oh, yeah, it actually works very >> > well. >> > >> > Glen Byrns >> > >> >> >> >> I've never gotten any satisfactory results from a unisyn; on either >> >> LBC's or motorcycles. For the BC's, I use the standard SU tool kit. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1551 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:49 AM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 14 18:20:49 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:20:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Python - no LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > They have winter in SoCal? Sure we do. Sometimes it rains. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jul 14 18:21:05 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:21:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c8e60c$d4d84b40$f21cf304@spider> Message-ID: > Whitworth. ...really But if Whitworth sizes are by the length of one flat, what is the difference? As Bill L noted, I have a ratcheting wrench from LBCarCo, Part number K10696 that has 3/16" and 1/4" on one end and 5/16" and 3/8" on the other end. I believe it was really developed for some HVAC application, but Jeff found them somewhere and stocks them for $13. MUCH easier to use than the non-ratcheting ones and FAR superior to trying to round off the flats with an open-end wrench. David Lieb From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 18:50:04 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c8e60c$d4d84b40$f21cf304@spider> Message-ID: <8c1781040807141750l720a2b4xd2cb45feceeb5ab9@mail.gmail.com> Here is a picture: http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/rob10696.html On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:21 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> Whitworth. ...really > > But if Whitworth sizes are by the length of one flat, what is the > difference? > As Bill L noted, I have a ratcheting wrench from LBCarCo, Part number K10696 > that has 3/16" and 1/4" on one end and 5/16" and 3/8" on the other end. I > believe it was really developed for some HVAC application, but Jeff found > them somewhere and stocks them for $13. MUCH easier to use than the > non-ratcheting ones and FAR superior to trying to round off the flats with > an open-end wrench. > David Lieb From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 14 20:03:11 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:03:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu> <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <4AD1EE976EDE4083AE8AA8573538D680@blackbox2> Just don't paint it "1970's" brown metal flake. You know, that really big metal flake...like 1/32th inch square. I've seen a Bugeye painted that way and everyone regreted it..including the owner. You have to draw the line somewhere with this color stuff, and for me its big, brown, metal flake. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style > With all the white, black, silver and gray cars on the road today, I just > can't bring myself to paint ANY of may cars OEW. No matter how "perfect" > the shade, it will just look like another of today's colorless cars. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 14 20:11:07 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:11:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style In-Reply-To: <4AD1EE976EDE4083AE8AA8573538D680@blackbox2> References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu><728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <4AD1EE976EDE4083AE8AA8573538D680@blackbox2> Message-ID: <005e01c8e620$0c1e3f70$f21cf304@spider> Hey! Some of my best friends are big flakes. :-) ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 7:03 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style Just don't paint it "1970's" brown metal flake. You know, that really big metal flake...like 1/32th inch square. I've seen a Bugeye painted that way and everyone regretted it ..including the owner. You have to draw the line somewhere with this color stuff, and for me its big, brown, metal flake. From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 14 20:13:13 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:13:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wrench size... In-Reply-To: <8c1781040807141750l720a2b4xd2cb45feceeb5ab9@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> <004b01c8e60c$d4d84b40$f21cf304@spider> <8c1781040807141750l720a2b4xd2cb45feceeb5ab9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I just bought mine (short 4" one) off of the "Snap-on" truck, about $4 or so (in 1976,probably $45 by now!) Bill M > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:50:04 -0400 > From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wrench size... > > Here is a picture: > http://www.sjdiscounttools.com/rob10696.html > > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:21 PM, David Lieb wrote: > >> Whitworth. ...really > > > > But if Whitworth sizes are by the length of one flat, what is the > > difference? > > As Bill L noted, I have a ratcheting wrench from LBCarCo, Part number K10696 > > that has 3/16" and 1/4" on one end and 5/16" and 3/8" on the other end. I > > believe it was really developed for some HVAC application, but Jeff found > > them somewhere and stocks them for $13. MUCH easier to use than the > > non-ratcheting ones and FAR superior to trying to round off the flats with > > an open-end wrench. > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 14 21:14:53 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:14:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu>, <728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, <487BB9A9.5090506@comcast.net> <487B5F96.16424.1A1CBA0@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <012401c8e628$f403cff0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Or Ecru, Dave??? Anon!!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 14 21:59:32 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:59:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Wrench size... References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01bd01c8e62f$30d05470$6501a8c0@shop> <> First Jim, is the thing SQUARE (or most likely has rounded edges)?? From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 14 22:03:07 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:03:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tradin' Paint - LBC style References: <6t8l1l$4kett9@email.mtu.edu><728EFB39D43E43EEA51D70FEABECFA31@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <4AD1EE976EDE4083AE8AA8573538D680@blackbox2> Message-ID: <01cd01c8e62f$b092a0f0$6501a8c0@shop> <> "Race the truck, Dale!!" Capn Bob From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 14 21:15:05 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:15:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Wrench size... References: <43840a7e0807141613o6401449cl51e0967d8c70dcaa@mail.gmail.com> <01bd01c8e62f$30d05470$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <001c01c8e628$fa673fd0$6401a8c0@personal> Think Jim needs some new bleader nipples. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Wrench size... > <> > > First Jim, is the thing SQUARE (or most likely has rounded edges)?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1551 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:49 AM From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 14 21:55:30 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:55:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Texaco MTX (No LBC) Message-ID: <487BBD42.2145.30FB073@dmg.bossig.com> My boy is trying to find 3 qts of Texaco MTX Fluid FM for his 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse manual transmission... We can't find it around here or anywhere on line ... Google'ing just shows other folks asking the same question... If anyone happens to come across any, please let me know off-line... TIA -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Always be wary of any helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual" Terry Pratchett From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Jul 14 22:30:08 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:30:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Misc LBC & Motorcycle ramblings in NC Message-ID: I was in Maggie Valley, NC last week and saw a bunch of old Jaguar sedans in front of a place on hwy 19 called Steve's Antique Auto & Motorcycle parts. I had to stop and check it out. The owner actually showed me around and I was impressed! Talk about an old school junkyard! He seemed to be more of a collector than a junkyard guy... He has over 3,000 motorcycles and hundreds of cars, many English. He does own 6 Bugeyes by his count and several square body Spridgets. I saw XKEs in various stages of disrepair, MGBs, MGAs, a TD, a Datsun Fairlady roadster, a Porsche 356, Fiat 850 spiders, Fiat 600s (?), and a bunch of collectable American Iron. One shed had 21 Jag engines in the corner! This fellow has 10 buildings full of this stuff and I only saw the insides of 2 of them!!! I had asked him about Datsun 210 trannies and he showed me a pile of trannies but nothing looked quite right to me at the moment. I will admit that I am not an expert in identifying the correct ones for our cars. His start price was $225 and he claims that none have more than 20K something miles. I'm pretty sure that I saw a B210 tranny in the spot for the Datsun stuff. Walking around his place was the highlight of my day! From there we went to the "Wheels of Time Motorcycle Museum". It is dedicated to the American Motorcycles and is privately owned. For those of you who may want to visit it, do so soon. They are moving to Prescott, AZ in November. This place is well-known by the biker world because they actually start the bikes for you instead of them just being display pieces. I got to hear a couple of Indians and a Henderson being fired up! They pride themselves on the fact that their bikes actually run and drive! NFI, just had fun looking, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! From marinaratt at hotmail.com Mon Jul 14 23:52:18 2008 From: marinaratt at hotmail.com (Ralph Heacox) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:52:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clear Hooters 41 Info? Message-ID: I found a red painted snale horn with Clear Hooters on the front and 41 stamped on the back in a box of BI stuff. I have no idea when or how I got it. Googled and ebayed it with no hits. Anybody have any knowledge about this horn they might share? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Its a talkathon  but its not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jul 15 00:31:35 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:31:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting In-Reply-To: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <487C4447.5010403@wi.net> OK, let the biologist help. Loooong extension cord, shop-vac with loooong extension and vacuum them up...ok,ok that sucks. ;-) Couple of cans of Raid wasp and hornet spray works wonders....or if you don't want to offend the animal rights folks, (but we are talkin' 'bout saving some parts here!) a CO2 extinguishers knocks them down for a while. Flame thrower works wonders; make one from one of the rice rockets that shoot flame out the pipes. Just a couple of fun ideas. If I weren't so far away I'd be out there with you. I love scrounging for parts. Enjoy! Dave 59 :{) Burlington WI Glen Byrns wrote: > What a perfect day! 100 degrees, no shade, and all the "free" Morris Minor > parts you can harvest. I spent the day in the sun ripping out the windscreen, > steering wheel, gas tank and front and rear suspension off a Morris Minor > sedan. The parts will eventually become part of my new Morris pickup. > Unfortunately, I could only harvest from the left side this weekend and will > have to go back next weekend to finish it off. There was a LARGE active > paper-wasp next in the box of parts sitting next to the passenger door. After > I grabbed all I could from the left side, I tossed a large rock into the nest > and ran like heck to the waiting escape car and took off. Maybe by next > Saturday they'll be gone and I can finsih the job. Anybody need a free 948 > and smoothcase? I won't ship, but I'll drag it home and hold it for you if > you really want one. The condition is:"dumped in the bushes ??years ago, > rained on and filled with wasps and mud." Please don't ask if it turns over. > > Glen Byrns From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 06:31:54 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:31:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Metal repair* Message-ID: <071520081231.15099.487C98B9000E5F4000003AFB2215551724C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> I went to a local metal supplier and bought a sheet, about 4 x 6 or so, of sheet metal, 18 guage. From that you can cut any shape or size you want. I suspect you could get a smaller piece, since they cut this one for me from a larger sheet of metal. i was replacing a lot of metal so needed a bigger sheet. If you have someone who is a really good welder, the butt weld is the choice here because a lap weld, where you crimp the piece to fit into the hole, provides a place for water to hang out. That is a bad thing. Another option available now is to crimp the piece to fit and use an epoxy that is available for patching. You fit the patch, drill holes around the perimeter to accept pop rivets, lather the patch edges up with the epoxy, then pop rivet the patch into place. It comes with a syringe that has a special nozzle that mixes the epoxy as it travels through the nozzel. I used that on my bonnet and it turned out very well. The epoxy seals the gap between the metal created by the lap joint. bondo over the patch and finishing created a non-perceptable joint. I got that at a paint and body supplier. Of course, with either method, you have to be absolutely sure that the rust that you are SEEING is all the rust you have, which has not been my experience. Rust is sort of like mice. If you see one, count 20. 8^) --David C. WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Adrian Jones > OK, some bonehead questions: > > Frank Clarici wrote: > bCut the rust out completely, try to make a nice square hole, cut a piece > of sheetmetal about 1 inch largerb > > Where would you go for this sheetmetal and what do you ask for (type of metal > and thickness)? > > bOr you can buy a sill and just cut out the part you needb > > What kind of a joint would you make between new and old? > > Thanks in advance for advice. > > Cheers, Adrian > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 07:38:41 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:38:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Misc LBC & Motorcycle ramblings in NC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <28f529ba0807150638j21fd28f3pad189b0611c6ad22@mail.gmail.com> Ooooh, moving to Prescott, eh? That's my neck of the woods. yay! I'll have to go check it out. Thanks for the heads up! Mike On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:30 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > I was in Maggie Valley, NC last week and saw a bunch of old Jaguar sedans in > front of a place on hwy 19 called Steve's Antique Auto & Motorcycle parts. I > had to stop and check it out. The owner actually showed me around and I was > impressed! Talk about an old school junkyard! He seemed to be more of a > collector than a junkyard guy... He has over 3,000 motorcycles and hundreds > of cars, many English. He does own 6 Bugeyes by his count and several square > body Spridgets. I saw XKEs in various stages of disrepair, MGBs, MGAs, a > TD, a Datsun Fairlady roadster, a Porsche 356, Fiat 850 spiders, Fiat 600s > (?), and a bunch of collectable American Iron. One shed had 21 Jag engines > in the corner! This fellow has 10 buildings full of this stuff and I only > saw the insides of 2 of them!!! I had asked him about Datsun 210 trannies > and he showed me a pile of trannies but nothing looked quite right to me at > the moment. I will admit that I am not an expert in identifying the correct > ones for our cars. His start price was $225 and he claims that none have > more than 20K something miles. I'm pretty sure that I saw a B210 tranny in > the spot for the Datsun stuff. > > Walking around his place was the highlight of my day! From there we went to > the "Wheels of Time Motorcycle Museum". It is dedicated to the American > Motorcycles and is privately owned. For those of you who may want to visit > it, do so soon. They are moving to Prescott, AZ in November. This place is > well-known by the biker world because they actually start the bikes for you > instead of them just being display pieces. I got to hear a couple of Indians > and a Henderson being fired up! They pride themselves on the fact that their > bikes actually run and drive! > NFI, just had fun looking, > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 15 08:07:01 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget In-Reply-To: <002a01c8e4a2$8feb5a60$6600a8c0@dave> References: <000601c8e0ac$71e66360$55b32a20$@net> <016201c8e23f$5efac950$6600a8c0@dave> <002a01c8e4a2$8feb5a60$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: David, Just make sure you tell them the front frame rails are SUPPOSED to be bent upwards. About an inch over the length, IIRC. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > From: davriker at nwi.net > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:40:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1974 Midget > > I am planning on a meeting with the insurance company this week to > "negotiate". I tallied at todays retail prices all of the items I have > bought new over the years on Moss' site, and am at about $20k not even > figuring the paint, upholstery or any labor. I am still considering buying > another car, and moving all my parts over to it. The body shop manager at > work assures me he and his team can sort the front frame rails and alignment > out, and even offered to do it on the side on a Saturday when they are > normally closed. Looking back at everything I've replaced and done, seems > like I am building enough of a file to keep them from totalling it, and > still get a decent settlement. > David > _________________________________________________________________ Need to know now? Get instant answers with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ messenger_072008 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 15 08:38:38 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting References: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <487C4447.5010403@wi.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the wasp chasing ideas guys, but all the really fun ones are ruled out by the huge amount of very dry brush surrounding the car. This also rules out the "blue wrench" approach to suspension removal. Nobody said it was going to be easy. If it was, everybody would be driving an LBC. I thought of a story about my grandfather when he was a boy, sitting cross-legged at the opening to an underground yellowjacket nest with a pair of ping pong paddles. He said that as long as he didn't miss once, everything went well. Now I see why they invented video games for kids. Glen Byrns > OK, let the biologist help. Loooong extension cord, shop-vac with > loooong extension and vacuum them up...ok,ok that sucks. ;-) Couple of > cans of Raid wasp and hornet spray works wonders....or if you don't want > to offend the animal rights folks, (but we are talkin' 'bout saving some > parts here!) a CO2 extinguishers knocks them down for a while. Flame > thrower works wonders; make one from one of the rice rockets that shoot > flame out the pipes. Just a couple of fun ideas. If I weren't so far > away I'd be out there with you. I love scrounging for parts. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 15 09:35:21 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:35:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] El, but not LBC Message-ID: Here ya' go ED: http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-58-Chev-Camino-350ci-Target-Master-one-of-a-kind-W0QQAdIdZ61160521 or http://preview.tinyurl.com/6xc6z8 From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jul 15 10:07:46 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:07:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix Message-ID: <001501c8e694$ec0a37a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Any of you.....I mean youns (it IS in Pittsburgh, after all) "Spridgeteers" planning to attend? I'm guessing (since I haven't seen the pre-registration numbers) that we'll have comfortably in excess of 400 Brit cars on the field for the British Car Day segment of PVGP, on Saturday. With NAMGAR holding their annual GT at nearby Seven Springs resort, this week, we are anticipating a large number of MGAs showing up. Sure would be nice to have a large bunch of Sprites & Spridgets there, too. Bud Osbourne From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 10:56:03 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix In-Reply-To: <001501c8e694$ec0a37a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <569450.20110.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well 2 of us will be there but in the paddock. Look for 65 Midget #70 in race group 6, probably in the back of the pack. Bob Spruck, also know as Motormouth South, will be crewing for me.. Drop by and say hello. Bob --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bud Osbourne wrote: From: Bud Osbourne Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:07 PM Any of you.....I mean youns (it IS in Pittsburgh, after all) "Spridgeteers" planning to attend? I'm guessing (since I haven't seen the pre-registration numbers) that we'll have comfortably in excess of 400 Brit cars on the field for the British Car Day segment of PVGP, on Saturday. With NAMGAR holding their annual GT at nearby Seven Springs resort, this week, we are anticipating a large number of MGAs showing up. Sure would be nice to have a large bunch of Sprites & Spridgets there, too. Bud Osbourne You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 15 10:59:36 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix In-Reply-To: <001501c8e694$ec0a37a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <478250.17562.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Forgot to add this. If your interested in who is racing this weekend go to PittsburghVintageGrandPrix.com, click on drivers then drag down and click on Schenley Park, then you can look for your favorites by going to each group 1 thru 6. Bob --- On Tue, 7/15/08, Bud Osbourne wrote: From: Bud Osbourne Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:07 PM Any of you.....I mean youns (it IS in Pittsburgh, after all) "Spridgeteers" planning to attend? I'm guessing (since I haven't seen the pre-registration numbers) that we'll have comfortably in excess of 400 Brit cars on the field for the British Car Day segment of PVGP, on Saturday. With NAMGAR holding their annual GT at nearby Seven Springs resort, this week, we are anticipating a large number of MGAs showing up. Sure would be nice to have a large bunch of Sprites & Spridgets there, too. Bud Osbourne You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 15 11:02:25 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:02:25 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting Message-ID: Grubs, nest, and all - in my limited experience of British wasps' nests. In a message dated 15/07/2008 07:32:35 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net writes: vacuum them up From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 15 15:42:59 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:42:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] El, but not LBC References: Message-ID: <020301c8e6c3$c0ded7a0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Lord, I WISH RD !!! That IS a very RARE vehicle!!! THANKS for letting me DREAM!!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 15 16:02:43 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:02:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Demographic Map Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <006a01c8e6ac$bad12050$8500a8c0@CT> References: <006a01c8e6ac$bad12050$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807151502w1ac2b51agbe6b5ecadd28697f@mail.gmail.com> Mark, Thanks! This is really illuminating on how the event went! Next time we need to try for some more states, more Canadians, folks from Old Mexico and maybe UK, OZ and NZ!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Mark wrote: > Jim, > > Just playing while waiting for a customer call back. > > Mark > > > > -- Cheers!! Jim [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Where From Spridget 50 SMALL.jpg] From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 15 16:54:05 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:54:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Demographic Map Spridget 50th References: <006a01c8e6ac$bad12050$8500a8c0@CT> <43840a7e0807151502w1ac2b51agbe6b5ecadd28697f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <75E39B13CF5544F4AE036F28A3662985@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I went over the list and found spridgets from 26 states and one province. Missouri contirbuted the most by far (15), not surprising, but can you guess which state had the second most cars in attendance? It was a tie between California and Illinois. Considering the HUGE distance for us leftcoasters, I would suggest that if you had held it in Tahoe you'd have had too many cars. They'd all be west coasters except for Florida Phil, and the Claricci clan, but there would be a ton of them. As it was, it was great to see cars from so many states. Meeting the members of a far-flung clan was more fun than seeing all the California Spridgets that I see every year at the shows. Glen > Mark, > > Thanks! This is really illuminating on how the event went! Next time we > need to try for some more states, more Canadians, folks from Old Mexico > and > maybe UK, OZ and NZ!! > > Cheers!! > Jim From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 15 17:17:42 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:17:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Demographic Map Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <75E39B13CF5544F4AE036F28A3662985@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <006a01c8e6ac$bad12050$8500a8c0@CT> <43840a7e0807151502w1ac2b51agbe6b5ecadd28697f@mail.gmail.com> <75E39B13CF5544F4AE036F28A3662985@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <1176051248.20080715161742@pacifier.com> Hello Glen, now i could probably do TAHOE... that at least is a reasonable distance!.. and its not over the Rockies ... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "Have you ever been whitewater rafting?" Tom asked rapidly. (*2) From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 17:25:02 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Texaco MTX (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487D31CE.9010504@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > My boy is trying to find 3 qts of Texaco MTX Fluid FM for his 1995 > Mitsubishi Eclipse manual transmission... Try a different brand that meets the specs. I know older Audis use "liquid gold" Pentosin S11. Someone found a Mobil 1 product that is similar (doesn't have quite the temperature range, but close enough). Googling Texaco MTX FM returns these hits: etc. I can't vouch for the products, though. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jul 15 17:50:00 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:50:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebound Strap Message-ID: I have one spacer tube with each rebound strap. If I were designing this attachment, there would be two - one inside the hole in the rubber strap and one between the two supports for the bolt. Am I missing some spacer tubes, or do I have the design wrong? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From stevenm at optonline.net Tue Jul 15 19:03:35 2008 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:03:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] octagon paint? Message-ID: <022501c8e6df$c8360ca0$6a01a8c0@1705n3> Can anyone recommend a brand/type of black paint to fill the black areas on the big MG octagon that sits on Midget bootlids? The paint on mine has faded away. I assume one must use a brush. Thanks, Steve 78 Midget From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 19:58:06 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:58:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door interior covers References: <007201c8df66$637b6ab0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <003101c8e0a7$1dec6110$0400a8c0@blackbox2> Message-ID: <71D8514902CB4925875F135D5886E940@blackbox2> For what it's worth...I ordered & received the door rubber. This stuff is 8 ribs / inch http://rubbercal.com/Corrugated_Fine_Rib.html The peaks of the ribs are somewhat sharp and the channels have a rounded bottom. It is black styrene-butadiene rubber (smells like a tire). It is 3mm thick and comes in 48 and 36 inch widths, and is availible by the foot in small sizes. This other stuff.. http://rubbercal.com/Z_Grip.html has a 1000 ft minimum order...pretty much out of the question unless your doing the deck of your ship AND the doors of your Bugeye... From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jul 15 21:11:56 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:11:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebound Strap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, I had exactly the same thoughts so I ended up making spacers to go inside the strap for the bolt to pass through. Standard hardware store stuff worked well with a slight trim. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 18:50 To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Rebound Strap I have one spacer tube with each rebound strap. If I were designing this attachment, there would be two - one inside the hole in the rubber strap and one between the two supports for the bolt. Am I missing some spacer tubes, or do I have the design wrong? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 18:28 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 10:23:25 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:23:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oooops! Try this link.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> Yesterday I sent: -------------------------- Mark, Thanks! This is really illuminating on how the event went! Next time we need to try for some more states, more Canadians, folks from Old Mexico and maybe UK, OZ and NZ!! --------------------------- I forgot... no pics to the lists.... Here's Mark Endicott's map.... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/50thmap.jpg Cheers!! Jim From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jul 16 10:48:13 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oooops! Try this link.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c8e763$bd5f5820$381e0860$@net> HEY!!! Texas representation was left off in the name of Brad Formal LOL Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:23 AM To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list; bugeye Subject: [Spridgets] Oooops! Try this link.... Yesterday I sent: -------------------------- Mark, Thanks! This is really illuminating on how the event went! Next time we need to try for some more states, more Canadians, folks from Old Mexico and maybe UK, OZ and NZ!! --------------------------- I forgot... no pics to the lists.... Here's Mark Endicott's map.... http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/50th/50thmap.jpg Cheers!! Jim You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1555 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 6:43 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1555 - Release Date: 7/16/2008 6:43 AM From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jul 16 13:03:18 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:03:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Oooops! Try this link.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487DE386.30400.11308B1@dmg.bossig.com> Mark, How about a map showing the location of all list members... I'm in Maidenhead locator... DN06ig Or I could give Lat/Long, or ZIP code.. Dve G. On 16 Jul 2008 at 11:23, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Thanks! This is really illuminating on how the event went! Next time >> we need to try for some more states, more Canadians, folks from Old >> Mexico and maybe UK, OZ and NZ!! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Always be wary of any helpful item that weighs less than its operating manual" Terry Pratchett From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jul 16 18:35:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Oooops! Try this link.... In-Reply-To: <282350605.20080716164516@pacifier.com> References: <43840a7e0807160923n45b30737qdfb4712b2dc25e5f@mail.gmail.com> <282350605.20080716164516@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1978912544.20080716173553@pacifier.com> CRAP... .. No WONDER we didn't see anybody along the way.. there was no one else within a 1000 miles of us when we started... .. no wait .. San Francisco is only about 800 miles... .... and the first we DID see were the Hannas.. .when we already IN Missouri... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "There's no bathroom in here," Tom said uncannily. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 19:10:11 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:10:11 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] bumper bolt size? Message-ID: <071720080110.4560.487E9BF3000C5DA3000011D02216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> What is the correct size for the front bumber bolt that attaches to the tow loops on a 73/74 midget? I pulled my bumper off and now it seems either those bolts are really right or i somehow misplace the correct ones. The other 2 bolts per side went in fine but these particular ones don't seem to fit. I thought they are 5/16 fine thread but now I am not sure. ryan From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 19:59:21 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:59:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bumper bolt size? In-Reply-To: <071720080110.4560.487E9BF3000C5DA3000011D02216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <071720080110.4560.487E9BF3000C5DA3000011D02216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <487EA779.7090005@comcast.net> ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > What is the correct size for the front bumber bolt that attaches to the tow loops on a 73/74 midget? 3/8 x 24 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 21:02:03 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:02:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Message-ID: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Spridgeteers As you know I will be restoring a Bugeye for a local retired Priest. Father Jack already has a 69 Midget which is for sale to finance his Bugeye project. I already have a $100 bugeye and it is exactly what a $100 Bugeye should look like. No sills, no floors, no interior, no drivetrain,, no bonnet, but it does have some major dents. Glen Byrns recently acquired a semi rust free California Bugeye shell with 2 little spots of rust and only 1 small dent. It has floors, sills, and a bonnet! I can buy Glen's tub for the cost of all the panels the tub I have needs. This will save a few weeks of cutting patching and welding. I already have a 1098/ribcase that runs and will drop in. Interiors are a piece of cake. And I recently stripped out a 63 Sprite and am working on the front end and rear suspension bits. SO HERE IS THE PLEA Do you think we can shuttle Glen's bugeye tub across the country? Somebody trailers it to the next guy who trailers it to the next guy who gets it a little closer to NJ. Remember, this is for a Priest, he can take away any of your sins and unlock those Pearly Gates if you think you may need a little nudge due to your past acts. I would like to start the project in September and have it ready for him around Christmas. This leaves 6 weeks to get the Bugeye across the country. What do you guys think? Possible? A little about Father Jack..... He's in his 70s, retired about a year ago. He still goes to housebound and ill people to give Communion, he does weddings for children of the parents of his parish, he's a nice guy, AND He disparately wants a Bugeye. He has no money, He does have a nice Midget that he is selling to finance the Bugeye. I plan on asking for a little help in restoring the Bugeye, The project will be known as "Jack Shit" but we will NOT say that in front of Father Jack ;) So IF we can get the CA tub to NJ, that will save alot of time and effort in replacing most of the panels on the tub I have. There has to be a real commitment to shuttling this car from point A to point B and beyond. Shipping it across country is .80 a mile or $2400 give or take and that will be more than 1/2 of what Father Jack has to spend. So plan on a short road trip with a trailer, meet other list members along the way. Heck, maybe a long trip, I think getting it over the Rockies is the hardest part. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jul 16 21:31:49 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2B77B390-BC4F-4CBD-A838-F3A3DE4D2268@valentinephoto.net> Frank, Once it gets close to Pennsylrainia I'll be glad to do my part in the "Relay for Sprite" ;) Kevin On Jul 16, 2008, at 11:02 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Spridgeteers > > As you know I will be restoring a Bugeye for a local retired Priest. > Father Jack already has a 69 Midget which is for sale to finance his > Bugeye project. > I already have a $100 bugeye and it is exactly what a $100 Bugeye > should > look like. > No sills, no floors, no interior, no drivetrain,, no bonnet, but it > does > have some major dents. > Glen Byrns recently acquired a semi rust free California Bugeye shell > with 2 little spots of rust and only 1 small dent. > It has floors, sills, and a bonnet! > I can buy Glen's tub for the cost of all the panels the tub I have > needs. This will save a few weeks of cutting patching and welding. > I already have a 1098/ribcase that runs and will drop in. Interiors > are > a piece of cake. And I recently stripped out a 63 Sprite and am > working > on the front end and rear suspension bits. > > SO HERE IS THE PLEA > > Do you think we can shuttle Glen's bugeye tub across the country? > Somebody trailers it to the next guy who trailers it to the next > guy who > gets it a little closer to NJ. > Remember, this is for a Priest, he can take away any of your sins and > unlock those Pearly Gates if you think you may need a little nudge due > to your past acts. > > I would like to start the project in September and have it ready > for him > around Christmas. > This leaves 6 weeks to get the Bugeye across the country. > What do you guys think? Possible? > > A little about Father Jack..... > He's in his 70s, retired about a year ago. He still goes to housebound > and ill people to give Communion, he does weddings for children of the > parents of his parish, he's a nice guy, AND He disparately wants a > Bugeye. > He has no money, He does have a nice Midget that he is selling to > finance the Bugeye. > > I plan on asking for a little help in restoring the Bugeye, The > project > will be known as "Jack Shit" but we will NOT say that in front of > Father > Jack ;) > So IF we can get the CA tub to NJ, that will save alot of time and > effort in replacing most of the panels on the tub I have. > There has to be a real commitment to shuttling this car from point > A to > point B and beyond. > Shipping it across country is .80 a mile or $2400 give or take and > that > will be more than 1/2 of what Father Jack has to spend. > So plan on a short road trip with a trailer, meet other list members > along the way. Heck, maybe a long trip, I think getting it over the > Rockies is the hardest part. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevin at valentinephoto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 16 22:04:57 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:04:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007e01c8e7c2$4730a0a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Frank, You can count on me and my old Chevy from the WV/PA border (+/- say 50 mi.) to somewhere around Donegal or Somerset, along the PA Turnpike (+/- 50 mi.). Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 10:02 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Spridgeteers As you know I will be restoring a Bugeye for a local retired Priest. Father Jack already has a 69 Midget which is for sale to finance his Bugeye project. I already have a $100 bugeye and it is exactly what a $100 Bugeye should look like. No sills, no floors, no interior, no drivetrain,, no bonnet, but it does have some major dents. Glen Byrns recently acquired a semi rust free California Bugeye shell with 2 little spots of rust and only 1 small dent. It has floors, sills, and a bonnet! I can buy Glen's tub for the cost of all the panels the tub I have needs. This will save a few weeks of cutting patching and welding. I already have a 1098/ribcase that runs and will drop in. Interiors are a piece of cake. And I recently stripped out a 63 Sprite and am working on the front end and rear suspension bits. SO HERE IS THE PLEA Do you think we can shuttle Glen's bugeye tub across the country? Somebody trailers it to the next guy who trailers it to the next guy who gets it a little closer to NJ. Remember, this is for a Priest, he can take away any of your sins and unlock those Pearly Gates if you think you may need a little nudge due to your past acts. I would like to start the project in September and have it ready for him around Christmas. This leaves 6 weeks to get the Bugeye across the country. What do you guys think? Possible? A little about Father Jack..... He's in his 70s, retired about a year ago. He still goes to housebound and ill people to give Communion, he does weddings for children of the parents of his parish, he's a nice guy, AND He disparately wants a Bugeye. He has no money, He does have a nice Midget that he is selling to finance the Bugeye. I plan on asking for a little help in restoring the Bugeye, The project will be known as "Jack Shit" but we will NOT say that in front of Father Jack ;) So IF we can get the CA tub to NJ, that will save alot of time and effort in replacing most of the panels on the tub I have. There has to be a real commitment to shuttling this car from point A to point B and beyond. Shipping it across country is .80 a mile or $2400 give or take and that will be more than 1/2 of what Father Jack has to spend. So plan on a short road trip with a trailer, meet other list members along the way. Heck, maybe a long trip, I think getting it over the Rockies is the hardest part. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jul 16 21:51:41 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:51:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <2B77B390-BC4F-4CBD-A838-F3A3DE4D2268@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <00de01c8e7c0$6d71a2c0$01fea8c0@C600> I will haul it from Elko to SLC, but someone would need to load it in the bed of my truck as I don't have a trailer. Kate From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 23:28:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:28:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bumper bolt size? In-Reply-To: <487EA779.7090005@comcast.net> References: <071720080110.4560.487E9BF3000C5DA3000011D02216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <487EA779.7090005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807162228la566b49iaa15a16a30246c7a@mail.gmail.com> What Frank sez. And watch yer a$$ towing by the bumper studs. They can easily pull loose from the frame members. Don't ask. Cheers!! Jim On 7/16/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > > What is the correct size for the front bumber bolt that attaches to the > tow loops on a 73/74 midget? > > 3/8 x 24 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 23:37:46 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:37:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <00de01c8e7c0$6d71a2c0$01fea8c0@C600> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <2B77B390-BC4F-4CBD-A838-F3A3DE4D2268@valentinephoto.net> <00de01c8e7c0$6d71a2c0$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807162237q20392aeble3b1437da3a70750@mail.gmail.com> I told John Kuzman at LotO... Get it to the front range of the rockies (Denver, Colorado Springs, Pueblo) and I will move it from there to Kansas City on my Motorcycle trailer. On the farther north route... I could maybe do Cheyenne to Omaha.... Can you make this work, John? I'll also work on coming out to NJ for a few days to work on assembly when it reaches that point. Kind of a "Cluster for Christ" if you will.... Soave would probably come too if he wasn't such a heathen.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/16/08, Kate wrote: > > I will haul it from Elko to SLC, but someone would need to load it in the > bed of my truck as I don't have a trailer. > > > Kate > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From gmari2 at verizon.net Thu Jul 17 04:23:18 2008 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Message-ID: <201441.3600521216290198570.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Number 1 daughter lives in Las Vegas and can store it in her garage if need be. She can't pull a trailer but as the owner of a 62 sprite I am sure she would love to help out. George Marinos On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Kate wrote: > I will haul it from Elko to SLC, but someone would need to load it in > the bed of my truck as I don't have a trailer. Kate You are subscribed as gmari2 at verizon.net B http://www.team.net/archive B http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets B From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 05:19:58 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:19:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting In-Reply-To: References: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <487C4447.5010403@wi.net> Message-ID: ROTFLMAO Glen! The things we poor country folk did for entertainment. :-) One question tho, once you get them in the shop vac, then what????? if you want to be PETA friendly....that is. Enquiring minds... Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu > > I thought of a story about my grandfather when he was a boy, sitting > cross-legged at the opening to an underground yellowjacket nest with a pair > of ping pong paddles. He said that as long as he didn't miss once, > everything went well. Now I see why they invented video games for kids. > > > Glen Byrns > > > OK, let the biologist help. Loooong extension cord, shop-vac with > > loooong extension and vacuum them up...ok,ok that sucks. ;-) Couple of > > cans of Raid wasp and hornet spray works wonders....or if you don't want > > to offend the animal rights folks, (but we are talkin' 'bout saving some > > parts here!) a CO2 extinguishers knocks them down for a while. Flame > > thrower works wonders; make one from one of the rice rockets that shoot > > flame out the pipes. Just a couple of fun ideas. If I weren't so far > > away I'd be out there with you. I love scrounging for parts. _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jul 17 07:50:00 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MG Midget steering lock mechanism Message-ID: <000601c8e814$01d2eed0$1002a8c0@TRACY> What is the deal with the steering lock mechanism on the later Midgets? I am missing any keys and just noticed that the bolts appear to be "break aways". So am I right in assuming this needs to be drilled to pull off and get a key made? Tracy From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 08:01:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:01:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MG Midget steering lock mechanism References: <000601c8e814$01d2eed0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: > I am missing any keys and just noticed that the bolts appear to be "break > aways". > So am I right in assuming this needs to be drilled to pull off and get a > key > made? Tracy, The usual fix is to use a Dremel with a cut-off wheel to cut a slot in the head to use a large screwdriver. That way you don't even need new bolts ;-) David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 08:04:09 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net><2B77B390-BC4F-4CBD-A838-F3A3DE4D2268@valentinephoto.net><00de01c8e7c0$6d71a2c0$01fea8c0@C600> <43840a7e0807162237q20392aeble3b1437da3a70750@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have no truck and I have no trailer, but I do have some vacation days left. If someone wanted to loan a trailer and/or a truck, I would be willing to spring for the gas to get it across some section of the midwest. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 17 08:15:54 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:15:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MG Midget steering lock mechanism In-Reply-To: References: <000601c8e814$01d2eed0$1002a8c0@TRACY>, Message-ID: <487EF1AA.7213.CB8E5@dmg.bossig.com> "Honest. Officer...it is my car.... I just can't find the key!' On 17 Jul 2008 at 9:01, David Lieb wrote: >> The usual fix is to use a Dremel with a cut-off wheel to cut a slot in >> the head to use a large screwdriver. That way you don't even need new >> bolts ;-) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jul 17 08:46:17 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:46:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 76 MG Midget steering lock mechanism In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c8e81b$dede49d0$1002a8c0@TRACY> OK it is off. Now to find a place to get a key made. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:02 AM To: Tracy Drummond; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 76 MG Midget steering lock mechanism > I am missing any keys and just noticed that the bolts appear to be "break > aways". > So am I right in assuming this needs to be drilled to pull off and get a > key > made? Tracy, The usual fix is to use a Dremel with a cut-off wheel to cut a slot in the head to use a large screwdriver. That way you don't even need new bolts ;-) David Lieb From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 17 08:58:09 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:58:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye Message-ID: <200807171458.m6HEw9mf004856@green.excel.net> David Lieb wrote: I have no truck and I have no trailer, but I do have some vacation days left. If someone wanted to loan a trailer and/or a truck, I would be willing to spring for I have a trailer and a truck but no vacation days left. I am located a half hour south of Road America. Bud Pazur From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 09:09:36 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:09:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye References: <200807171458.m6HEw9mf004856@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <5A89713AC1AD479B90101658D9507EE5@NilesAD.von.gov> David Lieb opined: I have no truck and I have no trailer, but I do have some vacation days left. If someone wanted to loan a trailer and/or a truck... _________________________________________________ Then Bud Pazur spoke up with: I have a trailer and a truck but no vacation days left. I am located a half hour south of Road America. here could get the car from somewhere like Iowa to somewhere in Ohio as the need might wind up. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 09:10:26 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:10:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye In-Reply-To: <200807171458.m6HEw9mf004856@green.excel.net> References: <200807171458.m6HEw9mf004856@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807170810o7e812cb9sdb490ff99787cbb@mail.gmail.com> Somewhere in the background I hear a swelling of the tune "East Bound and Down". From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 17 10:01:54 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:01:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye Message-ID: <9D62873E4DE743CE9B1ECE752FA6451C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Is it possible that a southern route might work better? Davis to LA area and then........ Hey Mike, any chance it could hide on a flatcar from San Berdoo to Phoenix? I might be able to find a way to borrow a trailer and truck that will get it to ...Salinas?? I'm not a religious guy, and my wife is a lapsed Catholic, but I'm highly motivated by Frank's altruistic intent and the desire to find enough space in my yard to start on the Morris truck project. Don't forget guys, Frank only needs the shell and there are some silly wide custom wheels, a 1500 Triumph engine, disc brakes and a rear end that Frank may not need and that might need to "fall off" the car on the way to make it lighter. (Check with Frank before "lightening" of course!) Glen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 10:13:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:13:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye References: <9D62873E4DE743CE9B1ECE752FA6451C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > Don't forget guys, Frank only needs the shell and there are some silly > wide > custom wheels, a 1500 Triumph engine, disc brakes and a rear end that > Frank > may not need and that might need to "fall off" the car on the way to make > it > lighter. (Check with Frank before "lightening" of course!) I am betting that Frank is counting on those disk brakes. From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 11:56:32 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:56:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye In-Reply-To: <9D62873E4DE743CE9B1ECE752FA6451C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Glyn Burns wrote: "Is it possible that a southern route might work better? Davis to LA area and then.......". Now, IF it makes its way down to Southern California, I have a new 4x8 Horrible Fright trailer I will contribute to the cause. The trailer could simply be passed on down the line across country, and at the end Frank could sell it and use the money on the good Father's project. (It has never been used. I bought it to take the Sprite to the paint shop, but instead used my brother's hot rod trailer. It is DMV registered and DOT certified, but lacks the last few assembly steps.) I have always longed to drive the full old Route 66. I just wish I could hook it up and take it all the way back myself. But it is the "IF's" of life that determine your course. IF the frog had wings, he wouldn't bust his ass on landing, either! From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jul 17 12:15:19 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:15:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride Message-ID: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. Crash From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 12:17:23 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:17:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye References: Message-ID: > I have always longed to drive the full old Route 66. I just wish I could > hook it up and take it all the way back myself. But it is the "IF's" of > life that determine your course. IF the frog had wings, he wouldn't bust > his ass on landing, either! Just put a hitch on your Sprite and we will all chip in for gas ;-) David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 12:37:12 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:37:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: David Lieb wrote: "Just put a hitch on your Sprite and we will all chip in for gas ;-)" Alas, if it were only a question of money, there would be no problem. Unfortunately, so much of life ended with Pam's accident at school May 18, 2000. Strange how some important dates are burned in the memory. (Hint: NEVER teach and get injured seriously at an incompetent, corrupt inner city school where you are the only blonde, blue-eyed teacher.) From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 13:10:41 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:10:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunday, funday, parts harvesting In-Reply-To: References: <67761801FE4A4972A8B326F92E5C1363@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <487C4447.5010403@wi.net> Message-ID: <487F9931.6020500@comcast.net> brian S wrote: > ROTFLMAO Glen! > The things we poor country folk did for entertainment. :-) > > One question tho, > once you get them in the shop vac, then what????? > if you want to be PETA friendly....that is. > > > I sucked up a nest of hornets out of the floor in my daughter's room some years back. Suck em up in the shop vac and let them go out in the woods. They all flew away, a little dusty but in good spirits. Next time, maybe I'll empty the dust out of the shop vac ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 17 13:20:37 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:20:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T Message-ID: I'd love to be able to help but am on the wrong side of the pond. So, my contribution is to start a new thread called Jack S.H.I.T! W E S L A K E 1330 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 13:28:39 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride Message-ID: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> David Ramsey wrote: > > Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I > from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge > 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something > as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 > round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. > > Crash > So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast for a return trip of whatever, whenever. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 13:29:50 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:29:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <487F9DAE.2010005@comcast.net> Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > I'd love to be able to help but am on the wrong side of the pond. So, my > contribution is to start a new thread called Jack S.H.I.T! > > > Swap meet parts Daniel, you can buy them and ship them to us. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bugi1960 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 13:38:50 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:38:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, I can help with towing if we use Buster's trailer. Sent from my iPhone Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jul 17, 2008, at 3:28 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > David Ramsey wrote: >> >> Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I >> from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge >> 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing >> something >> as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, >> 1060 >> round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. >> >> Crash >> > > So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? > Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all > know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast > for a return trip of whatever, whenever. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugi1960 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jul 17 13:39:47 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:39:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: First gays are being married. Now a retired priest in New Jersey is marrying children???? If, by some chance, the pieces of the puzzle take this excursion through the northern route, I have a trailer and can haul the body across Michigan and into northern Ohio. -JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:02 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Spridgeteers As you know I will be restoring a Bugeye for a local retired Priest. Father Jack already has a 69 Midget which is for sale to finance his Bugeye project. I already have a $100 bugeye and it is exactly what a $100 Bugeye should look like. No sills, no floors, no interior, no drivetrain,, no bonnet, but it does have some major dents. Glen Byrns recently acquired a semi rust free California Bugeye shell with 2 little spots of rust and only 1 small dent. It has floors, sills, and a bonnet! I can buy Glen's tub for the cost of all the panels the tub I have needs. This will save a few weeks of cutting patching and welding. I already have a 1098/ribcase that runs and will drop in. Interiors are a piece of cake. And I recently stripped out a 63 Sprite and am working on the front end and rear suspension bits. SO HERE IS THE PLEA Do you think we can shuttle Glen's bugeye tub across the country? Somebody trailers it to the next guy who trailers it to the next guy who gets it a little closer to NJ. Remember, this is for a Priest, he can take away any of your sins and unlock those Pearly Gates if you think you may need a little nudge due to your past acts. I would like to start the project in September and have it ready for him around Christmas. This leaves 6 weeks to get the Bugeye across the country. What do you guys think? Possible? A little about Father Jack..... He's in his 70s, retired about a year ago. He still goes to housebound and ill people to give Communion, he does weddings for children of the parents of his parish, he's a nice guy, AND He disparately wants a Bugeye. He has no money, He does have a nice Midget that he is selling to finance the Bugeye. I plan on asking for a little help in restoring the Bugeye, The project will be known as "Jack Shit" but we will NOT say that in front of Father Jack ;) So IF we can get the CA tub to NJ, that will save alot of time and effort in replacing most of the panels on the tub I have. There has to be a real commitment to shuttling this car from point A to point B and beyond. Shipping it across country is .80 a mile or $2400 give or take and that will be more than 1/2 of what Father Jack has to spend. So plan on a short road trip with a trailer, meet other list members along the way. Heck, maybe a long trip, I think getting it over the Rockies is the hardest part. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 13:47:10 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:47:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807171247r1f22fddfq9ba5758c29dc54ec@mail.gmail.com> Agreed -- set up a central repository/manager and I'll donate a bit. On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > David Ramsey wrote: >> >> Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I >> from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge >> 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something >> as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 >> round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. >> >> Crash >> > > So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? > Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all > know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast > for a return trip of whatever, whenever. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 13:47:26 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:47:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7DBBD67AE11545CFA2A42C4E5681D84B@NilesAD.von.gov> > I can help with towing if we use Buster's trailer. Are we to assume that it is wired standard flat-four? Otherwise it could be a major pain! There is also the issue of insurance for the trailer should someone get pulled over. Just trying to think of potential probelms while there is still time to address them... David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 17 14:14:43 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006001c8e849$c0f90120$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: "Frank Clarici" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Now a retired priest in New Jersey is marrying children???? -JohnD =========================== John, that one just cries out for a smart-ass response. Only good taste and decorum prevent me from giving the easy one. LAD From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 17 14:34:00 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:34:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T Message-ID: You guys have most of the parts. However, if you give me enough notice I might be able to sort out some silicone hoses - vertical flow rad? In a message dated 17/07/2008 20:25:33 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: Swap meet parts Daniel, you can buy them and ship them to us. From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 17 14:53:38 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations Message-ID: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> All - Among other issues regarding trailers, someone mentioned a license plate and DOT certification. Uh - I have neither for mine. Maybe it's not required in Wisco - the dealer never mentioned it to me, but then again, I didn't ask. I have not noticed whether other trailers in Wisco have a license plate or not. (Maybe Flounder knows?) Anyway, that might present a problem using my trailer. And of course, I have never heard of trailer insurance. But my truck is still available. Bud Pazur From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 17 15:58:19 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:58:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T References: <487F9DAE.2010005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <016301c8e858$39a3eeb0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Or NEW ones, maybe a Weslake V/C ??? From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 17 16:00:00 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:00:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <016f01c8e858$764c3110$6501a8c0@shop> <> I'd be happy to handle it, Frank!! Ed From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 15:06:11 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:06:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <7DBBD67AE11545CFA2A42C4E5681D84B@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: David Lieb wrote: "Are we to assume that it is wired standard flat-four?" See http://tinyurl.com/3ddo8t . "There is also the issue of insurance for the trailer should someone get pulled over." My insurance (State Farm) does not insure trailers, and covers them under the vehicle/driver's insurance. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 17 15:07:39 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:07:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> Seems that a trailer would be covered by towing vehicle's insurance. Maybe call you agent? I never had a license on my trailer, but the vehicle I had on it did. ...bill in Oregon =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:54 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations All - Among other issues regarding trailers, someone mentioned a license plate and DOT certification. Uh - I have neither for mine. Maybe it's not required in Wisco - the dealer never mentioned it to me, but then again, I didn't ask. I have not noticed whether other trailers in Wisco have a license plate or not. (Maybe Flounder knows?) Anyway, that might present a problem using my trailer. And of course, I have never heard of trailer insurance. But my truck is still available. Bud Pazur _______________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 15:14:21 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:14:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T In-Reply-To: <487F9DAE.2010005@comcast.net> Message-ID: Weslake1330 wrote: "I'd love to be able to help but am on the wrong side of the pond. So, my contribution is to start a new thread called Jack S.H.I.T!" Frank Clarici wrote: "Swap meet parts Daniel, you can buy them and ship them to us. There you go. The Beaulieu autojumble is Saturday 13th - Sunday 14th September. Plenty of time. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 17 15:28:54 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:28:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080717162518.03968e38@nosimport.com> Don't need no stinkin' plates on trailers in WI. Frank, I have a trailer that could be used. Open 2 wheeler. It's hauled a few Sprites, Cs, and Healeys from WI to CA and back, and lived to tell about it. If someone needs say a car to go to California, Flounder.. ahem, then maybe this trailer could do it, and return with GodSprite Peter C ==== At 03:53 PM 7/17/2008, Bud Pazur wrote: >All - > >Among other issues regarding trailers, someone mentioned a license plate and >DOT certification. Uh - I have neither for mine. Maybe it's not required in >Wisco - the dealer never mentioned it to me, but then again, I didn't ask. I >have not noticed whether other trailers in Wisco have a license plate or not. >(Maybe Flounder knows?) Anyway, that might present a problem using my >trailer. And of course, I have never heard of trailer insurance. > >But my truck is still available. > >Bud Pazur From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 17 15:35:25 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007c01c8e855$06d9a450$01fea8c0@C600> Brutus has a hitch and trailer brake control, I just don't happen to have a trailer. He also gets about 10MPG, whether running empty or pulling a building. As it stands now, I may need to opt out. My doctor has told me that I am getting back surgery in Reno as soon as she can get me scheduled. I don't know how long I will be laid up, but she says my fracture is the worst she has ever seen with the patient still walking. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Ramsey" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bug-i ride > David Ramsey wrote: > > > > Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I > > from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge > > 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something > > as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 > > round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. > > > > Crash > > > > So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? > Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all > know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast > for a return trip of whatever, whenever. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 17 16:01:32 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:01:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Jack S.H.I.T Message-ID: I'll stick with the hoses..... In a message dated 17/07/2008 22:06:03 GMT Daylight Time, shop at justbrits.com writes: Or NEW ones, maybe a Weslake V/C ??? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 16:02:56 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:02:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> Message-ID: <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> > Seems that a trailer would be covered by towing vehicle's insurance. Maybe > call you agent? I never had a license on my trailer, but the vehicle I had > on it did. ...bill in Oregon I have not lived everywhere yet, but I know that Illinois requires license plates on trailers and my insurance includes policies on both of my trailers (neither one of which is big enough for a Sprite. I dunno what one of Illinois' finest would say to an unplated uninsured trailer following an Illinois-plated vehicle... nor do I want to find out, so I will drive with all due circumspection ;-) Buster, I had done the research on the Harbor Freight site before posting. It makes no mention of the trailer wiring other than to brag about the fact that the ARE lights on it. Since it does not mention brakes, the logical assumption here is that it is flat-four, but it is nice to be very sure... David Lieb From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Jul 17 16:41:07 2008 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:41:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080717183918.0486ee48@littlebitcountry.com> Don't forget about the trailer light hookup. I'm sure everyone has a different configuration and plug setup. Dave At 03:28 PM 7/17/2008, you wrote: >David Ramsey wrote: > > > > Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I > > from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge > > 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something > > as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 > > round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. > > > > Crash > > > >So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? >Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all >know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast >for a return trip of whatever, whenever. > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 16:49:45 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:49:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: FWIW, all the light kits that I have purchased from Harbor Freight, have been a flat four setup On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > Seems that a trailer would be covered by towing vehicle's insurance. > Maybe > > call you agent? I never had a license on my trailer, but the vehicle I > had > > on it did. ...bill in Oregon > > I have not lived everywhere yet, but I know that Illinois requires license > plates on trailers and my insurance includes policies on both of my > trailers > (neither one of which is big enough for a Sprite. I dunno what one of > Illinois' finest would say to an unplated uninsured trailer following an > Illinois-plated vehicle... nor do I want to find out, so I will drive with > all due circumspection ;-) > > Buster, > I had done the research on the Harbor Freight site before posting. It makes > no mention of the trailer wiring other than to brag about the fact that the > ARE lights on it. Since it does not mention brakes, the logical assumption > here is that it is flat-four, but it is nice to be very sure... > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Thu Jul 17 16:59:07 2008 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:59:07 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] rev counter for dynamo or alternator Message-ID: <002001c8e860$b903af30$0202a8c0@desktop> whats the difference between a rev counter for a car fitted with a dynamo and one designed for a car fitted with an alternator,? Assuming car is negative earth. (grounded) In other words, can I fit a '72 smiths electric rev counter (neg earth) into a frogeye fitted with a neg earth dynamo ? I thought I could, then read a comment which suggested I couldn't. Anyone really know ? cheers Alan From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 17:05:30 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:05:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box closers In-Reply-To: <041501c8e2f9$2d345e80$6501a8c0@refisk> References: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net> <041501c8e2f9$2d345e80$6501a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <487FD03A.9040201@comcast.net> Rick Fisk wrote: > Frank, > > Please take (and share!) a photo of the closer plates. 1/4 leaf spring box closer plates as found on a 63 Sprite. Never saw these on a Bugeye http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w5/TClarici/?action=view¤t=trip008.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 17 17:20:21 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:20:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rev counter for dynamo or alternator In-Reply-To: <002001c8e860$b903af30$0202a8c0@desktop> References: <002001c8e860$b903af30$0202a8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080717181745.039f3db0@nosimport.com> Yes. The issue is when you make changes to the car, and expect the tach to work. But, to put a working neg earth tach into a neg earth car will have no problems. Except from the "Originality Police" ;-) Peter C === At 05:59 PM 7/17/2008, Alan East-Jones wrote: >whats the difference between a rev counter for a car fitted with a dynamo and >one designed for a car fitted with an alternator,? > Assuming car is negative earth. (grounded) >In other words, can I fit a '72 smiths electric rev counter (neg earth) into >a frogeye fitted with a neg earth dynamo ? >I thought I could, then read a comment which suggested I couldn't. >Anyone really know ? >cheers >Alan From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 17:36:43 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807162237q20392aeble3b1437da3a70750@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <830314.26426.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > Soave would probably come too if he wasn't such a heathen.... ;-) Caldwell upon seeing Soave doing his usual praying on the starting grid: "Soave, what are you doing???" Soave: "What does look like? Saying an Our Father. There are no atheists in foxholes." Caldwell: "Atheists don't intentionally go in foxholes." Anyway, I get 10 MPG towing my 18ft enclosed trailer, but if there's a little ga$ help I can take it from IL to Toms River over a weekend. Frank, this may have to be ne of my shortest visits yet, though. And that's saying something! Soave From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Thu Jul 17 17:41:23 2008 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:41:23 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] rev counter for dynamo or alternator References: <002001c8e860$b903af30$0202a8c0@desktop> <7.0.1.0.2.20080717181745.039f3db0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <003601c8e866$a0752880$0202a8c0@desktop> Thanks Peter , ( I couldn't find my question on the list so I assumed it had dissapeared into the ether again !) A working rev counter is better than no revcounter, when my speedo is reading aprox twice road speed (smooth as silk ) I would like something to watch that is asccurate (ish) And to heck with the originality police LOL My 58 Frogeye is fitted with Jaeger instruments at the moment, no gears on the dynamo and only Lordy knows why the speedo is running at about 2:1 , unless you do of course , might it be that the car is fitted with a Morris Minor engine and possibly a minor gearbox and diff ? cheers Alan - PS guess what I'll be doing this weekend ! yep , chasin' freebie LoL - NOT @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Alan East-Jones" ; "autox spridgets list" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rev counter for dynamo or alternator > Yes. > > The issue is when you make changes to the car, and expect the tach to > work. > > But, to put a working neg earth tach into a neg earth car will have no > problems. > > Except from the "Originality Police" ;-) > > Peter C > === > At 05:59 PM 7/17/2008, Alan East-Jones wrote: >>whats the difference between a rev counter for a car fitted with a dynamo >>and >>one designed for a car fitted with an alternator,? >> Assuming car is negative earth. (grounded) >>In other words, can I fit a '72 smiths electric rev counter (neg earth) >>into >>a frogeye fitted with a neg earth dynamo ? >>I thought I could, then read a comment which suggested I couldn't. >>Anyone really know ? >>cheers >>Alan > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.1/1559 - Release Date: 17/07/2008 18:08 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 17 17:57:05 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:57:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <830314.26426.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d801c8e868$d1b545e0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Kate" ; ; "Jim Johnson" ; "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > Soave would probably come too if he wasn't such a heathen.... ;-) Caldwell upon seeing Soave doing his usual praying on the starting grid: "Soave, what are you doing???" Soave: "What does look like? Saying an Our Father. There are no atheists in foxholes." Caldwell: "Atheists don't intentionally go in foxholes." Anyway, I get 10 MPG towing my 18ft enclosed trailer, but if there's a little ga$ help I can take it from IL to Toms River over a weekend. Frank, this may have to be ne of my shortest visits yet, though. And that's saying something! Soave _______________________________________________ Gee whiz, Ron, and here all this time I always thought you were praying for a faster lap time. Put more money in the basket? LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 17 17:59:37 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:59:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> <007c01c8e855$06d9a450$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: <00e101c8e869$2c0cb6e0$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, Kate. Good luck on your surgery. As one who knows what real pain is, I hope you come out better than you went in. Larry Daniels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bug-i ride Brutus has a hitch and trailer brake control, I just don't happen to have a trailer. He also gets about 10MPG, whether running empty or pulling a building. As it stands now, I may need to opt out. My doctor has told me that I am getting back surgery in Reno as soon as she can get me scheduled. I don't know how long I will be laid up, but she says my fracture is the worst she has ever seen with the patient still walking. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Ramsey" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bug-i ride > David Ramsey wrote: > > > > Frank. I have a truck, can get a trailer, could transport the bug-I > > from Glen's to Kate's except I could not pay for the gas. My Dodge > > 2500 V10 magnum gets around 10-11 miles a gallon even towing something > > as light as a sprite. I'm 210 miles from Glen and 320 from Kate, 1060 > > round trip @$4.25 a gal the cost in fuel would be around $410. > > > > Crash > > > > So for those who can not tow, can we have a gas $$ contribution fund? > Bolt the car to Buster's trailer, mention the hitch ball size so all > know what ball to have, and then there is a trailer on the right coast > for a return trip of whatever, whenever. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 18:27:55 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:27:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > I have 3 HF trailers and they all have flat four connectors. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > > > Buster, > I had done the research on the Harbor Freight site before posting. It makes > no mention of the trailer wiring other than to brag about the fact that the > ARE lights on it. Since it does not mention brakes, the logical assumption > here is that it is flat-four, but it is nice to be very sure... > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 18:29:45 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <830314.26426.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <58E731AA307A4ACDB501CE41562BCDB9@midget> > Anyway, I get 10 MPG towing my 18ft enclosed trailer, but if there's a > little ga$ help I can take it from IL to Toms River over a weekend. Frank, > this may have to be ne of my shortest visits yet, though. And that's > saying something! Hey, no getting selfish now! Others want to do their bit as well, ya know? Heck, if it is coming on Buster's trailer, Trish and I could probably use the Miata to tow it at a much better gas mileage than that. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 18:34:58 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:34:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <65FC8B496B3F4D03B007B85F7ED21D04@midget> >> I have 3 HF trailers and they all have flat four connectors. Good! I was hoping for an eyewitness. If I had to guess, that woulda bin my guess, but why guess when you don't need to? If I tow it with one of our vehicles, I will need to acquire a converter to handle my round-six connectors, but I could leave it with the trailer for the remainder of the trip if it was necessary. Perhaps we should run a journal along the way. Use the Barney approach and show it to any cop foolish enough to pull one of us over and bore him to death until he is only too anxious to send us on our way ;-) David Lieb From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 17 18:39:17 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:39:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net><005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider><9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> <65FC8B496B3F4D03B007B85F7ED21D04@midget> Message-ID: <010001c8e86e$b7132170$01fea8c0@C600> With pictures at every handover. Then somebody can con Mr. Ed into posting it on his site. Kate > Perhaps we should run a journal along the way. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jul 17 18:52:23 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:52:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box closers In-Reply-To: <487FD03A.9040201@comcast.net> Message-ID: It's a sad testiment to the warped humour of this list when someone feels they have to ask you to share the photo they just asked you to take. :) Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:06 PM To: Rick Fisk Cc: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box closers Rick Fisk wrote: > Frank, > > Please take (and share!) a photo of the closer plates. 1 From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jul 17 18:47:26 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:47:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004501c8e86f$da1f5700$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> I'm between Amerillo and Joplin, that would get it into Mo or even north to Wichita perhaps? Let me know. charlie OKC,OK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2238 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jul 17 18:52:22 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:52:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack Message-ID: <8E0BA5AA9E624931B687E2AEF46548A7@Home> My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion of parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? Michael Rowe From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 19:08:23 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack References: <8E0BA5AA9E624931B687E2AEF46548A7@Home> Message-ID: <2A9E156631F147DF9BAF5705ADCB23B2@midget> > My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master > cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion of > parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the > outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? My experience with researching repairs to one of these jacks is that they will not sell you the parts they show in the manual; they will only sell you select subassemblies. Unfortunately, the cost of the subassembly rivals the cost of replacing the whole jack. In my case, I was able to come up with a bushing from a Spridget front suspension lowering kit to substitute for the roller that had taken a sudden flight to parts unknown. If you opt for the replacement option, I could sure use the little roller that pushes on the top of the pump... Just in case I try the lowering kit again someday. David Lieb From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jul 17 19:19:10 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How much would your HF trailer with the Sprite tub weight? Wild thoughts going through my head. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:56 AM, B- Evans wrote: > Glyn Burns wrote: "Is it possible that a southern route might work > better? > Davis to LA area and then.......". > > > > Now, IF it makes its way down to Southern California, I have a new 4x8 > Horrible Fright trailer I will contribute to the cause. The > trailer could > simply be passed on down the line across country, and at the end > Frank could > sell it and use the money on the good Father's project. (It has > never been > used. I bought it to take the Sprite to the paint shop, but > instead used my > brother's hot rod trailer. It is DMV registered and DOT > certified, but > lacks the last few assembly steps.) > > > > I have always longed to drive the full old Route 66. I just wish > I could > hook it up and take it all the way back myself. But it is the > "IF's" of > life that determine your course. IF the frog had wings, he > wouldn't bust > his ass on landing, either! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Jul 17 20:16:32 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:16:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net> <005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: All of us who have flat-4 connectors should already be standardized to align with U-haul. Can't get much more standard than that. Bill > Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:49:45 -0500 > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com > To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations > > FWIW, all the light kits that I have purchased from Harbor Freight, have > been a flat four setup > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Lieb > wrote: > > > > Seems that a trailer would be covered by towing vehicle's insurance. > > Maybe > > > call you agent? I never had a license on my trailer, but the vehicle I > > had > > > on it did. ...bill in Oregon > > > > I have not lived everywhere yet, but I know that Illinois requires license > > plates on trailers and my insurance includes policies on both of my > > trailers > > (neither one of which is big enough for a Sprite. I dunno what one of > > Illinois' finest would say to an unplated uninsured trailer following an > > Illinois-plated vehicle... nor do I want to find out, so I will drive with > > all due circumspection ;-) > > > > Buster, > > I had done the research on the Harbor Freight site before posting. It makes > > no mention of the trailer wiring other than to brag about the fact that the > > ARE lights on it. Since it does not mention brakes, the logical assumption > > here is that it is flat-four, but it is nice to be very sure... > > David Lieb > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 17 20:33:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:33:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net><005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider> <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <7F297BC33D974DC8A9764FFF149C36C5@midget> >>> All of us who have flat-4 connectors should already be standardized to >>> align with U-haul. Can't get much more standard than that. Dunno bout dat. I have never rented a Uhaul trailer, but my understanding was that they used a non-standard hitch ball, so I have no reason to assume that their wiring would conform to anyone else's standard. There IS an industry standard for flat-four, but I would actually consider it more likely that Harbor Freight would conform to it than Uhaul ;-) OTOH, my one-wheel trailer is currently wired to accept either flat-four or round-six. Don't ask. David Lieb From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Jul 17 20:39:57 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:39:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind Wings Message-ID: <02A0D5EAA3CF4E7ABC2A3C9CBA7C0690@HomeComputer> Have any of you ever used wind wings (http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/accessories/at117.htm) on your early Spridgets? How well did they work? Thanks, Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (not quite running yet) From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 20:41:04 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <7F297BC33D974DC8A9764FFF149C36C5@midget> Message-ID: <400039.64538.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/17/08, David Lieb wrote: > Dunno bout dat. I have never rented a Uhaul trailer, but my > understanding > was that they used a non-standard hitch ball, so I have no > reason to assume > that their wiring would conform to anyone else's > standard. It doesn't. They will happily sell you an adapter. I rented one of their motorcycle trailers a few years ago. The hitch ball was standard 2", but the wiring did not agree with my F-150 4 pin that never had any incompatiblities before. Ron From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jul 17 20:38:58 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:38:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Windblocker Message-ID: <6t8mot$4c8qhi@email.mtu.edu> At the risk of getting all kinds of reticule, I'll admit that I am putting a windblocker on my Sprite. I designed and built it myself. My design includes the word SPRITE engraved in the plexiglass and edge lighting with red LED's. When finished it will have an integrated high mount 3rd stop light - again using LED's. I put a picture in my Flickr photo area. Follow the URL below my name to see it. This is what happens when a retired engineer has spare time on his hands. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Jul 17 20:49:04 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:49:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wind Wings In-Reply-To: <02A0D5EAA3CF4E7ABC2A3C9CBA7C0690@HomeComputer> References: <02A0D5EAA3CF4E7ABC2A3C9CBA7C0690@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <059a01c8e880$d7d8d9b0$878a8d10$@com> I've had them for over 10 years, I like them very much. "Have any of you ever used wind wings (http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/accessories/at117.htm) on your early Spridgets?" From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 17 20:52:47 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:52:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <7DBBD67AE11545CFA2A42C4E5681D84B@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> <7DBBD67AE11545CFA2A42C4E5681D84B@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <000001c8e881$5cb65ea0$16231be0$@net> Dont know about others but ANYTHING I am hooked onto is covered by my liability insurance. If there is a fuel fund I can manage to get the car from the west Texas border to somewhere in Louisiana. I have 200 gals onboard in my truck for which it will cost $2.00 per gal, the rest of the trip would have to be at regular diesel pump prices (would love to be able to pick it up at Glens and take it all the way to Franks at no cost but personal finances wont allow that). I get around 12 mpg after installing the new pump at LOTO and I have ALL NEW TIRES AFTER LOTO also. If there is someone willing to help me drive to NJ and back to Texas with the fuel paid I am willing to do that also as I have lots of time now days. I only drive during the day so nights is the other persons duty. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:47 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bug-i ride > I can help with towing if we use Buster's trailer. Are we to assume that it is wired standard flat-four? Otherwise it could be a major pain! There is also the issue of insurance for the trailer should someone get pulled over. Just trying to think of potential probelms while there is still time to address them... David Lieb You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 17 21:55:17 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:55:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box closers References: <4876A6C6.9090301@comcast.net><041501c8e2f9$2d345e80$6501a8c0@refisk> <487FD03A.9040201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <017001c8e88a$181465e0$6501a8c0@shop> <<1/4 leaf spring box closer plates as found on a 63 Sprite. Never saw these on a Bugeye>> Frank, I HAVE!!! Maybe once and MANY moons ago!! I 'think' it was on a Leaf Green I HAD and that I 'lost' is a G.F. 'seperation'!! Gotta be 35ish years ago!! Sure WISH I had 'saved' them ('course, the car also!)!! From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Jul 17 21:07:23 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:07:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net><005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider><9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> <7F297BC33D974DC8A9764FFF149C36C5@midget> Message-ID: <033501c8e883$670aa5d0$2f01a8c0@dell1> U-Haul has their own wiring sequence for their 4 connectors. Not industry standard as all trailer manufacters use. If your vehicle has a flat 4 connector you have to use (buy or so they tell you) "their" special conversion connector. I have a cheap U-Haul conversion connector I made in Florida when I rented one of their trailers to haul 'stuff' to Maryland. It's a male and female flat 4 connectors with the color coded wires rearranged to match U-Haul's trailer wiring. Biff From smarc at smarc.net Thu Jul 17 21:08:40 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:08:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: <2A9E156631F147DF9BAF5705ADCB23B2@midget> References: <8E0BA5AA9E624931B687E2AEF46548A7@Home> <2A9E156631F147DF9BAF5705ADCB23B2@midget> Message-ID: <48800938.8000305@smarc.net> FWIW, I bought a heavy duty floor jack at Sears maybe 7 - 8 years ago. It's been problematic for a few years, and now won't hold a load. Yeah I bled it, bled it again, checked fluid level, bled it again. Finally said enough and picked one up at Horrible Freight during a recent sale. Other then the color, it's about identical. I'd say it came from the same factory as the Sears jack. So maybe see if Sears will sell parts - it's obviously the same manufacturer. David Lieb wrote: >> My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master >> cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion of >> parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the >> outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? >> > > My experience with researching repairs to one of these jacks is that they > will not sell you the parts they show in the manual; they will only sell you > select subassemblies. Unfortunately, the cost of the subassembly rivals the > cost of replacing the whole jack. In my case, I was able to come up with a > bushing from a Spridget front suspension lowering kit to substitute for the > roller that had taken a sudden flight to parts unknown. If you opt for the > replacement option, I could sure use the little roller that pushes on the > top of the pump... Just in case I try the lowering kit again someday. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Marc From smarc at smarc.net Thu Jul 17 21:23:41 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:23:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <033501c8e883$670aa5d0$2f01a8c0@dell1> References: <200807172053.m6HKrcTF030193@green.excel.net><005501c8e851$267f4890$b903f204@spider><9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> <7F297BC33D974DC8A9764FFF149C36C5@midget> <033501c8e883$670aa5d0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <48800CBD.7030003@smarc.net> I rented a U-haul tow dolly last year. It had flat four. I have a round 6 on my truck, but I have an adapter I got at Wally World that adapts flat four to round 6. Nothing special, just plugged in and worked... Biff Jones wrote: > U-Haul has their own wiring sequence for their 4 connectors. Not industry > standard as all trailer manufacters use. If your vehicle has a flat 4 > connector you have to use (buy or so they tell you) "their" special > conversion connector. I have a cheap U-Haul conversion connector I made in > Florida when I rented one of their trailers to haul 'stuff' to Maryland. > It's a male and female flat 4 connectors with the color coded wires > rearranged to match U-Haul's trailer wiring. From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jul 17 21:34:00 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:34:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windblocker In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4c8qhi@email.mtu.edu> References: <6t8mot$4c8qhi@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <54726B6F-1AE2-4DFC-B729-FA3D88498077@mac.com> Looks cool. I had thought about one with a black mesh net rather than plexy. Have you had it out for a drive yet? I put one on my Miata only to find the it increased the wind coming over the doors so you had to put the windows up. Seemed silly to me to have the windows up and the top down, maybe it is just me. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 17, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > At the risk of getting all kinds of reticule, I'll admit that I am > putting a windblocker on my Sprite. I designed and built it myself. > My design includes the word SPRITE engraved in the plexiglass and > edge lighting with red LED's. When finished it will have an > integrated high mount 3rd stop light - again using LED's. I put a > picture in my Flickr photo area. Follow the URL below my name to see > it. This is what happens when a retired engineer has spare time on > his hands. > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jul 17 21:35:11 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:35:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <00e101c8e869$2c0cb6e0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20080718033540.60AC7187660@autox.team.net> She will be joining the 33% club at the Reno VA hospital. 1/3 get worse, 1/3 get better, 1/3 stay the same. I have had several friends that have had really good results. Crash Hey, Kate. Good luck on your surgery. As one who knows what real pain is, I hope you come out better than you went in. Larry Daniels From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jul 17 21:41:45 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:41:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations In-Reply-To: <9727CD8508D64C298B8329AFEAAE5D1C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <20080718034213.D229A187660@autox.team.net> Did you ask Buster if it was the 800lb or 500lb trailer? Personally I wouldn't tow a Horrible Freight trailer "unloaded" across city limits much less state lines. Crash > Seems that a trailer would be covered by towing vehicle's insurance. Maybe > call you agent? I never had a license on my trailer, but the vehicle I had > on it did. ...bill in Oregon I have not lived everywhere yet, but I know that Illinois requires license plates on trailers and my insurance includes policies on both of my trailers (neither one of which is big enough for a Sprite. I dunno what one of Illinois' finest would say to an unplated uninsured trailer following an Illinois-plated vehicle... nor do I want to find out, so I will drive with all due circumspection ;-) Buster, I had done the research on the Harbor Freight site before posting. It makes no mention of the trailer wiring other than to brag about the fact that the ARE lights on it. Since it does not mention brakes, the logical assumption here is that it is flat-four, but it is nice to be very sure... David Lieb From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 17 22:04:24 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:04:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's Bugeye - Trailer Considerations References: <400039.64538.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05d201c8e88b$5df53bb0$4e947e4c@HP> How much would it cost to ship it? At 10 MPG and $4.50 a gallon it may be cheaper to ship the thing. From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 17 22:07:53 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:07:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windblocker References: <6t8mot$4c8qhi@email.mtu.edu> <54726B6F-1AE2-4DFC-B729-FA3D88498077@mac.com> Message-ID: <05db01c8e88b$daabced0$4e947e4c@HP> That is the way it works on the new Miata'a that come with a wind blocker. I made one for my Bugeye and it worked. Wind no longer hit me in the back of the head. It came around the corner and beat the shit out of my left ear. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 17 22:37:03 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:37:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride In-Reply-To: <000001c8e881$5cb65ea0$16231be0$@net> References: <487F9D67.3030300@comcast.net> <7DBBD67AE11545CFA2A42C4E5681D84B@NilesAD.von.gov> <000001c8e881$5cb65ea0$16231be0$@net> Message-ID: <90809B4B-9CD7-42C9-B375-9E5CEA00AB9B@comcast.net> If Leo can get it to Louisiana I can get it to Mississippi.. and have a trailer just in case.. Lester On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Leo wrote: > Dont know about others but ANYTHING I am hooked onto is covered by my > liability insurance. If there is a fuel fund I can manage to get > the car > from the west Texas border to somewhere in Louisiana. I have 200 gals > onboard in my truck for which it will cost $2.00 per gal, the rest > of the > trip would have to be at regular diesel pump prices (would love to > be able > to pick it up at Glens and take it all the way to Franks at no cost > but > personal finances wont allow that). I get around 12 mpg after > installing > the new pump at LOTO and I have ALL NEW TIRES AFTER LOTO also. If > there is > someone willing to help me drive to NJ and back to Texas with the > fuel paid > I am willing to do that also as I have lots of time now days. I > only drive > during the day so nights is the other persons duty. > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of > David Lieb > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bug-i ride > >> I can help with towing if we use Buster's trailer. > > Are we to assume that it is wired standard flat-four? Otherwise it > could be > a major pain! > There is also the issue of insurance for the trailer should someone > get > pulled over. > Just trying to think of potential probelms while there is still time > to > address them... > David Lieb > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: > 7/17/2008 > 9:56 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: > 7/17/2008 > 9:56 AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 18 06:40:44 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:40:44 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] For the Lotus fans - Project Eagle Message-ID: http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8692778 From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jul 18 07:54:55 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:54:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye References: Message-ID: <00eb01c8e8dd$dc848d30$6401a8c0@personal> I used a HF trailer to haul Miss Agatha (tub) from Houston to Niceville then from there to Huntsville and back, no problems. Bought it for $229 on sale and sold it for $400. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Priest's bugeye > How much would your HF trailer with the Sprite tub weight? > > Wild thoughts going through my head. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 10:56 AM, B- Evans wrote: > >> Glyn Burns wrote: "Is it possible that a southern route might work >> better? >> Davis to LA area and then.......". >> >> >> >> Now, IF it makes its way down to Southern California, I have a new 4x8 >> Horrible Fright trailer I will contribute to the cause. The >> trailer could >> simply be passed on down the line across country, and at the end >> Frank could >> sell it and use the money on the good Father's project. (It has >> never been >> used. I bought it to take the Sprite to the paint shop, but >> instead used my >> brother's hot rod trailer. It is DMV registered and DOT >> certified, but >> lacks the last few assembly steps.) >> >> >> >> I have always longed to drive the full old Route 66. I just wish >> I could >> hook it up and take it all the way back myself. But it is the >> "IF's" of >> life that determine your course. IF the frog had wings, he >> wouldn't bust >> his ass on landing, either! >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.0/1558 - Release Date: 7/17/2008 9:56 AM From fisher at hctc.net Fri Jul 18 10:24:52 2008 From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:24:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Auction Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Fisher is back home again, now. My thanks to Robert Houston for letting you know of the change in plans because of the heart attack. Fisher also developed pneumonia whilst he was in the hospital, and it is something I shall have to be very careful of, as he is still bedridden for the most part. Thank you to everyone who sent messages of support. I'm not too sure just when I will be able to start the proposed Auto Rummages, but I will let you know just as soon as I can. As you might imagine, I am kept quite busy, so please accept this as a personal note to everyone who planned to attend. A long-time friend of Fisher's has been trying to help, whilst I've been at the hospital, and to this end he has suggested an auction of some of the cars, and I have added his message to the foot of this, for any of you who might be interested. elizabeth From: Douglas Doidge To: Kip Lankenau , Fisher & Elizabeth Jones , Subject: Auction The following cars are being offered at auction. The highest bidder is under no obligation to buy the car he/she bids on but is entitled to an inspection visit (by appointment) at which tim he/she pays for the car if he/she is satisfied with his/her purchase. These cars are sold with no title, for parts only. AUSTIN HEALEY SPRITE Mk I (race car, alloy wheels, no drive-train, HD springs, offset rear springs, 2 steel hoods l- $1750 reserve) The reserve is for one body and one bonnet, the other bonnet is being sold separately. DATSUN SSS 4dr Sedan (mid 60s) (believed to be 1600 pushrod as in roadster - copy of MGA engine) JAGUAR Mk II (RH drive, auto, 2.4L, 1965)(includes spare 3.8 engine) MGB/GT (1972 - clutch and transmission replaced in 2000 and not driven since) TRIUMPH SPITFIRE Mk IV BMW 2002 BMW 1600 PORSCHE 911 ('67 911S - some assembly required - 2ltr motor is all there with the exception of the cams. A 2.5ltr motor also goes with the car) Some parts are also being offered: High Ratio Roller ocker set fr 948/1100/1275 engines, by Sharp. 5X13 4X4" Minilite wheels, set of 4. 6X13 4X4" Minilite wheels, set of 4 The aucton will close at midnight CST July 31, 2008. Submit your bid to dougdoidge at live.com. ______________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. IM anytime you're online. _________________________________________________________________ Fisher or Elizabeth Jones "A gentleman does not motor about after dark." Joseph Lucas 1920 From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 10:29:54 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:29:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: <48800938.8000305@smarc.net> Message-ID: <620150.73410.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> all jacks have a problem after awhile. It is usually the O ring seal. After it is replaced my leeks always go away. My jack was made in the USA. This is the only problem i have had is every 5 or 10 years. After yhe O ring i am good for another 5-10 years. My friend got a Horrible Freight jack. So far the wheel came off and it leeks in less then 6 months. We serviced it and it is ok now. Not sure how long it will take to fail again. Vigil --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Marc wrote: From: Marc Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HF jack To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:08 PM FWIW, I bought a heavy duty floor jack at Sears maybe 7 - 8 years ago. It's been problematic for a few years, and now won't hold a load. Yeah I bled it, bled it again, checked fluid level, bled it again. Finally said enough and picked one up at Horrible Freight during a recent sale. Other then the color, it's about identical. I'd say it came from the same factory as the Sears jack. So maybe see if Sears will sell parts - it's obviously the same manufacturer. David Lieb wrote: >> My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master >> cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion of >> parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the >> outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? >> > > My experience with researching repairs to one of these jacks is that they > will not sell you the parts they show in the manual; they will only sell you > select subassemblies. Unfortunately, the cost of the subassembly rivals the > cost of replacing the whole jack. In my case, I was able to come up with a > bushing from a Spridget front suspension lowering kit to substitute for the > roller that had taken a sudden flight to parts unknown. If you opt for the > replacement option, I could sure use the little roller that pushes on the > top of the pump... Just in case I try the lowering kit again someday. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Marc You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 18 10:41:07 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:41:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride References: <20080718033540.60AC7187660@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <01e101c8e8f5$14241640$01fea8c0@C600> Believe me, I now know what real pain is. I am confident that the surgery will help, if only to reduce the pain. At least, that is what my doctor says. Kate > She will be joining the 33% club at the Reno VA hospital. 1/3 get worse, 1/3 > get better, 1/3 stay the same. I have had several friends that have had > really good results. > Crash > > > Hey, Kate. Good luck on your surgery. As one who knows what real pain is, > I hope you come out better than you went in. > > > Larry Daniels > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 10:43:33 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:43:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: <620150.73410.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <48800938.8000305@smarc.net> <620150.73410.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have had my HF jack for about 2 years now, but no leaks yet. I have used it only 2 dozen times though, and usually for lifting the Sprite. I am sure it makes a difference if you put the jack in a high use area, vs a home shop On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:29 AM, wrote: > > all jacks have a problem after awhile. It is usually the O ring seal. After > it > is replaced my leeks always go away. My jack was made in the USA. This is > the > only problem i have had is every 5 or 10 years. After yhe O ring i am good > for > another 5-10 years. > > My friend got a Horrible Freight jack. So far the wheel came off and it > leeks > in less then 6 months. We serviced it and it is ok now. Not sure how long > it > will take to fail again. > > Vigil > > --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Marc wrote: > > From: Marc > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] HF jack > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 8:08 PM > > FWIW, I bought a heavy duty floor jack at Sears maybe 7 - 8 years ago. > It's been problematic for a few years, and now won't hold a load. Yeah > I > bled it, bled it again, checked fluid level, bled it again. Finally said > enough and picked one up at Horrible Freight during a recent sale. Other > then the color, it's about identical. I'd say it came from the same > factory as the Sears jack. > > So maybe see if Sears will sell parts - it's obviously the same > manufacturer. > > > > David Lieb wrote: > >> My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master > > >> cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion > of > >> parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the > > >> outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? > >> > > > > My experience with researching repairs to one of these jacks is that they > > will not sell you the parts they show in the manual; they will only sell > you > > select subassemblies. Unfortunately, the cost of the subassembly rivals > the > > cost of replacing the whole jack. In my case, I was able to come up with > a > > > bushing from a Spridget front suspension lowering kit to substitute for > the > > roller that had taken a sudden flight to parts unknown. If you opt for > the > > > replacement option, I could sure use the little roller that pushes on the > > top of the pump... Just in case I try the lowering kit again someday. > > David Lieb > > _______________________________________________ > > > Marc > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 18 10:52:03 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:52:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been using my HF long frame jack for 14 years with no problems. From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jul 18 10:53:15 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <830314.26426.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0807162237q20392aeble3b1437da3a70750@mail.gmail.com> <830314.26426.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That won't give you much time with the priest. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:37 PM To: Kate; jkuzman at fuse.net; Jim Johnson; Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride --- On Thu, 7/17/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > Soave would probably come too if he wasn't such a heathen.... ;-) Caldwell upon seeing Soave doing his usual praying on the starting grid: "Soave, what are you doing???" Soave: "What does look like? Saying an Our Father. There are no atheists in foxholes." Caldwell: "Atheists don't intentionally go in foxholes." Anyway, I get 10 MPG towing my 18ft enclosed trailer, but if there's a little ga$ help I can take it from IL to Toms River over a weekend. Frank, this may have to be ne of my shortest visits yet, though. And that's saying something! Soave From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jul 18 10:56:55 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:56:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: <8E0BA5AA9E624931B687E2AEF46548A7@Home> References: <8E0BA5AA9E624931B687E2AEF46548A7@Home> Message-ID: No fix Hahbah Flate! Buy new! Waste make nation prosperous. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe [mailto:mdrowe at optonline.net] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 8:52 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack My cheap Harbor Freight aluminum jack has sprung a leak in the master cylinder. (Yes, Frank. It's Chinese.) I recall some discussion of parts/repairs for these jack a few months ago, but do not remember the outcome. Has anyone tried to fix one of these cheap jacks? Michael Rowe From davegran at ticon.net Fri Jul 18 11:10:33 2008 From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Message-ID: <4880CE89.7E2B@ticon.net> Ron Soave wrote: > > Anyway, I get 10 MPG towing my 18ft enclosed trailer, but if there's a little ga$ help I can take it from IL to Toms River over a weekend. Frank, this may have to > be ne of my shortest visits yet, though. And that's saying something! > > Soave Ron, If you need someone to share the driving I'd be glad to help. I'm a long-distance machine.... It'd also be fun to have a gathering of wops. -- Dave Grandeffo From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 18 11:34:34 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:34:34 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] stupid question re: oiler Message-ID: I have an oiler for pre-tool installation that has instructions to wall mount it. One might think that it cam with a bracket or screw holes, but one might think wrong. Is there a right and/or wrong way to mount it ( other than level and facing the right way for the airflow )? ED ... uh, I mean ... Robert D. From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 18 11:42:20 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:42:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall In-Reply-To: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Folks, Do not know if this makes sense (since when is that a requirement for this list) Anyway getting my brother to help drive we could pick up the tub on a trailer here in CA and take it to NJ, picking up some parts on the way. Then on the return perhaps move stuff for folks who need something to go west. We can make the time, I have a choice of tow vehicles (a CRV 20-24 mpg, a Jeep Grand Cherokee 15-18 mpg or a RV 8-10 mpg), depending on how much weight needs to be moved as to which one to use. Would need some help on fuel and a place to crash at night. A wild guess at the total fuel bill would be $1000 - $3000 for the round trip depending on which vehicle was used. Thoughts ? - - other than I am crazy Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 11:49:10 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:49:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Billy Zoom wrote: "I've been using my HF long frame jack for 14 years with no problems." I have had mine several years longer than that, and absolutely NO problems. Of course, I don't know where they were made back in the Mesozoic Era. From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Fri Jul 18 11:54:07 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:54:07 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Windblocker In-Reply-To: <05db01c8e88b$daabced0$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <2A84275D88084B1BB9BCCD34013A984C@GuyLaptop> Larry, I got to ask... <> Why do you have shit in your left ear? What you bin doin? Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: 18 July 2008 05:08 To: Kitterer Bob; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Windblocker That is the way it works on the new Miata'a that come with a wind blocker. I made one for my Bugeye and it worked. Wind no longer hit me in the back of the head. You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jul 18 11:59:48 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:59:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Message-ID: <6F2937B4D8F84F1594B4E9D6FA4A125F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Bob, since you already covered the "I must be crazy" topic, I'll just say thanks for a great offer. I've already sprung for the Heritage certif. and the CA replacement pink slip charges, despite my "total Godless heathen" status, but I'd still kick in a few bucks more for gas money to make this happen. Partially because its a really cool story-to-be, but also because I'm frothing at the mouth to get started on the Morris pickup project and the BE shell sits in my only free work space. Glen From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 18 13:01:29 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:01:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Auction References: <3517.1216399165@cableone.net> Message-ID: <00da01c8e908$b06924b0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Comfort, TX Phil. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 18 12:39:48 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> <207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Message-ID: > Do not know if this makes sense (since when is that a requirement for > this list) Anyway getting my brother to help drive we could pick up > the tub on a trailer here in CA and take it to NJ, picking up some > parts on the way. Then on the return perhaps move stuff for folks > who need something to go west. We can make the time, I have a choice > of tow vehicles (a CRV 20-24 mpg, a Jeep Grand Cherokee 15-18 mpg or > a RV 8-10 mpg), depending on how much weight needs to be moved as to > which one to use. Would need some help on fuel and a place to crash > at night. A wild guess at the total fuel bill would be $1000 - > $3000 for the round trip depending on which vehicle was used. Much though I like the concept of "Tows Across The USA", your shceme has a lot going for it. If only the Chicago area was actually on the way to anything, I would offer you room and board. As it is, I will cheerfully kick in for some fuel, lodging, and meal expenses. Is there another fund for parts? David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 12:47:03 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:47:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall In-Reply-To: References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> <207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Message-ID: If ya'll come through Texas, I have two spare rooms, and a sleeper sofa in the front room. Brad On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:39 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > Do not know if this makes sense (since when is that a requirement for > > this list) Anyway getting my brother to help drive we could pick up > > the tub on a trailer here in CA and take it to NJ, picking up some > > parts on the way. Then on the return perhaps move stuff for folks > > who need something to go west. We can make the time, I have a choice > > of tow vehicles (a CRV 20-24 mpg, a Jeep Grand Cherokee 15-18 mpg or > > a RV 8-10 mpg), depending on how much weight needs to be moved as to > > which one to use. Would need some help on fuel and a place to crash > > at night. A wild guess at the total fuel bill would be $1000 - > > $3000 for the round trip depending on which vehicle was used. > > Much though I like the concept of "Tows Across The USA", your shceme has a > lot going for it. If only the Chicago area was actually on the way to > anything, I would offer you room and board. As it is, I will cheerfully > kick > in for some fuel, lodging, and meal expenses. Is there another fund for > parts? > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Jul 18 14:01:58 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:01:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bulb--for ray Message-ID: <003a01c8e911$23212630$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Ray, I was thinking of leaving my keel bulb unpainted :) what you think? JKJK cs -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2241 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 18 14:20:47 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:20:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bulb--for ray In-Reply-To: <003a01c8e911$23212630$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <003a01c8e911$23212630$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080718151953.037e8490@nosimport.com> At 03:01 PM 7/18/2008, Charlie wrote: >Ray, >I was thinking of leaving my keel bulb unpainted :) what you think? > >JKJK >cs ==== I'd go with Olde English White, if I were you. ED From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jul 18 14:25:40 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:25:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall In-Reply-To: References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net> <207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Message-ID: >> A wild guess at the total fuel bill would be $1000 - $3000 for the >> round trip depending on which vehicle was used. Is everyone thinking straight here? What could Frank buy in the NJ area for $3000? I guess considerably more than a bare tub and a bunch of exhausted drivers. There is one in Pittsburgh, for example, at http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/747094236.html . Is Bud in Pittsburgh? I will be whitewater kayaking an hour south of Pittsburgh the first week of August. No trailer hitch, though. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 18 15:42:22 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:42:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net><207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Message-ID: <001901c8e91f$29aef910$6501a8c0@shop> I wouldn't need to Admin two accounts, David. I could easily keep track ot "PartsOnly" but would think that FUEL should be FIRST?!?!? Did ANYBODY see that I did say I would be happy to take of a 'Fund For Fuel' for the Padre's tub?? Ed From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 18 15:43:59 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:43:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] bulb--for ray References: <003a01c8e911$23212630$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <7.0.1.0.2.20080718151953.037e8490@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <001f01c8e91f$63a89630$6501a8c0@shop> Nevada Beige, Ed!! Make it REALLY 'rare' !!! PPP From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 18 14:53:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:53:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net><207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> <001901c8e91f$29aef910$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <049B7F158D114B919D47D2F64BF2CB0E@NilesAD.von.gov> > Did ANYBODY see that I did say I would be happy to take of a > 'Fund For Fuel' for the Padre's tub?? I guess that means everybody's ED filters are working... Lorry Denials From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 18 15:11:44 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:11:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall References: <20080717181541.E4AAC187678@autox.team.net><207E7532-0C3B-4766-8266-A4FDF89058F1@mac.com> Message-ID: <79A2D477EB914D588C2ADDE5696BB3BC@NilesAD.von.gov> > Is everyone thinking straight here? What could Frank buy in the NJ area > for $3000? I guess considerably more than a bare tub and a bunch of > exhausted drivers. There is one in Pittsburgh, for example, at > http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/car/747094236.html . Is Bud in > Pittsburgh? > I will be whitewater kayaking an hour south of Pittsburgh the first week > of > August. No trailer hitch, though. Mail your $3000 cheque to Frank, Michael and I am sure he will be happy to do it that way. Otherwise, we are working on a community project wherein everybody contributes what he or she can and it all works out in the end, complete with warm fuzzies to go around. Spridgets are NOT all about money. David Lieb From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 15:17:06 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:17:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> If you are keeping score - I can move the tub from 200 miles in either direction of Pittsburgh. Say - Detroit/Toledo/Columbus to Harrisburg or a little further east. For an all-encompassing forgiveness I could take it all the way to Tom's River - however, I'm not sure Father Jack has THAT much pull with the 'Big Guy"!! Let me know. CB From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 15:42:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:42:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> Come on Charlie! You're a Penguins fan! There aren't enough Hail Marys, Our Fathers, or beads on a rosary to save your butt! Now if you were a Devils or Rangers fan it would be a local phone call..... ;-) Cheers!!! Jim On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > If you are keeping score - I can move the tub from 200 miles in either > direction of Pittsburgh. > > Say - Detroit/Toledo/Columbus to Harrisburg or a little further east. > > For an all-encompassing forgiveness I could take it all the way to Tom's > River - however, I'm not sure Father Jack has THAT much pull with the 'Big > Guy"!! > > Let me know. > > > CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 15:49:18 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:49:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007401c8e920$21cbaa80$6401a8c0@universal1> "Devil's Fans" How quaint - a priest working on behalf of 'Devil's Fans' - why, they invented the trap and almost ruined hockey!! CB ps: Who doesn't just love a Penguin? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 15:52:39 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:52:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <007401c8e920$21cbaa80$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> <007401c8e920$21cbaa80$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807181452u71e4822dj504612d7c256e24@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > > > ps: Who doesn't just love a Penguin? > Good point, Charley. They're real popular with Sharks - the real ones, that is.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 18 15:55:20 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:55:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <007401c8e920$21cbaa80$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> <007401c8e920$21cbaa80$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080718165443.03896d88@nosimport.com> At 04:49 PM 7/18/2008, Charley Braum wrote: > ps: Who doesn't just love a Penguin? Taste like chicken? Ed From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 18 16:18:37 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:18:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Extracting a sawn-off bolt... Message-ID: <4880B44D.21929.1B90B78@dmg.bossig.com> Well folks, I have tried vice-grips, cutting a slot, PB Blaster, mild heat and a few other options without getting that darn sawn-off seat-belt bolt out of the transmission tunnel. I'm left with drilling as much of it out as best as I can, and then using a cutting die to chase the thread... Can some-one tell me what the specs are on that bolt... i.e. 3/8 x 20 or whatever... so I can buy the correct die?? TIA -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 16:53:11 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] last minute request Message-ID: <020f01c8e929$0e4e42c0$6401a8c0@universal1> Anyone in the Pittsburgh area for the PVGP tomorrow that might want a 'ride', contact me off-list. Might have a car (or motorcycle) with no driver available. Thanks, CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Jul 18 17:12:26 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:12:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] PVGP Participants Message-ID: <022201c8e92b$befa7650$6401a8c0@universal1> This comes too late for some that are already in the area - but - you need to be aware that there is a lot of highway construction ongoing this weekend with several projects impacting access to PVGP at Schenley Park. Best is to google 'penndot' and go to the construction update. The parkway (east) from PIT towards Monroeville (out-bound) will have lane restrictions ( and corresponding traffic back-ups) and the BLVD of the Allies access to Oakland is closed off completely (as far as I know right now). It will likely take a bit longer to get to the park than in years past - just a note to those that might be unaware. See you at the races! CB From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 17:31:06 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <507337.35900.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Brad Fornal wrote: > I have had my HF jack for about 2 years now, but no leaks > yet. I have used > it only 2 dozen times though, and usually for lifting the > Sprite. 6 years on mine, probably 500 cycles, no problems. I bled it once. That ad a dust pan I bought were my 2 best HF scores. Ron From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 17:43:04 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:43:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bug-i ride-off the wall In-Reply-To: <79A2D477EB914D588C2ADDE5696BB3BC@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: David Lieb wrote: "Otherwise, we are working on a community project wherein everybody contributes what he or she can and it all works out in the end, complete with warm fuzzies to go around. Spridgets are NOT all about money." None could have said it better, David. Some people simply do not understand that this was the spirit I knew in the "Golden Age". People worked together for the common good and for the fun and pride of camaraderie, including the rich who could afford to have everything done for them, but rubbed grubby elbows with those of us in the great unwashed masses. A friend from those days has been active in TR circles in the Bay Area and in Arizona. I told him of the friendships and camaraderie on the Spridget list, and he just had a hard time believing it. It certainly was most certainly not anything like he had experienced anywhere in the past 30 years or so. Then he came to the BusterCluster, and at the end, was dazed and amazed at it all. "Buster, you were RIGHT! It is like the old days!" From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 18 18:10:50 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:10:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bulb--for ray In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080718151953.037e8490@nosimport.com> Message-ID: > I'd go with Olde English White, if I were you. But what shade? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 18 18:14:25 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:14:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: <507337.35900.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > a dust pan I bought were my 2 best HF I bought three of those...home, shop, studio. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 18:57:20 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:57:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] HF jack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ron Soave wrote: ..." a dust pan I bought were my 2 best HF" Billy Zoom wrote: "I bought three of those...home, shop, studio." I have had two for donkey's years and they have NOT BROKEN!!!! And they are made of METAL, not plastic. Must be left-over stock from some store that closed in 1947. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 19:14:38 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:14:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! Message-ID: My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? If not, what does that mean in American? TIA, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 18 19:19:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:19:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Extracting a sawn-off bolt... In-Reply-To: <4880B44D.21929.1B90B78@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4880B44D.21929.1B90B78@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <48814117.9050600@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > Well folks, I have tried vice-grips, cutting a slot, PB Blaster, mild heat and a > few other options Get some serious heat on it. Mapp gass and turn the nut part cherry red. The size is 7/16 x 20 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 18 19:29:29 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:29:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Some English Translated into English! Message-ID: <011f01c8e93e$e4960420$b903f204@spider> >From the dictionary http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whinge .bill British : to complain fretfully : whine - whinge noun British =============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380 Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:15 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? If not, what does that mean in American? TIA, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! _______________________________________________ From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 18 20:47:37 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:47:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Windblocker References: <2A84275D88084B1BB9BCCD34013A984C@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <069001c8e949$ce7ca9e0$4e947e4c@HP> Been rolling in my cat's litter box again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Larry & Sandi Miller'" ; "'Kitterer Bob'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:54 AM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Windblocker > Larry, I got to ask... > <> > > Why do you have shit in your left ear? What you bin doin? > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller > Sent: 18 July 2008 05:08 > To: Kitterer Bob; Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Windblocker > > > That is the way it works on the new Miata'a that come with a From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jul 18 20:56:50 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:56:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I believe it is pronounced "Whine" The "g" is silent. As best as I know anyway. Larry On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:14 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who > was upset > by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and > she is > not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those > over > here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant > over"? If > not, what does that mean in American? > > TIA, > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 21:19:38 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:19:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Are they "foreign" cars, or are they American? Message-ID: Car and driver has raised the question of whether some cars are actually "foreign" or are they American? Oh, they may have foreign badges like Honda or BMW, but are they really "foreign"? See http://tinyurl.com/553tlj and decide what you think. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Jul 18 21:31:52 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:31:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Larry Macy wrote: "I believe it is pronounced "Whine" The "g" is silent. As best as I know anyway." >From all of my experiences in Blighty, the "g" has never been silent, but rather with a hard "g". Indeed, both the Cambridge and Mirriam-Webster dictionaries show the phonetic pronunciation as "winj". From dmeadow at juno.com Fri Jul 18 21:32:11 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:32:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! Message-ID: <20080718.223211.182.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> "Whinge" means to whine or complain. It has a somewhat negative connotation of someone being annoying, much as whining would. I'd have to have the context to understand the "over" part, but if he is saying he doesn't want to whinge over something, then he is saying that he does not want to appear to be an annoying whiner. The "g" in whinge is not silent, by the way, it rhymes with hinge. My Australian buddies use the term a lot, mostly when speaking of the English. "Whinging pommy bastard" seem to be three words that are as one because they are always spoken together. :) No offense intended by me, just reporting some observations. Pom or pommy is a whole other story. David -- CosmicMag1380 wrote: My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? If not, what does that mean in American? TIA, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click here to lower your monthly payments. Act now and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3oMFMdRAgaOJtgNsshbdHvVaLbY syRg00Qj9ZQkO7sDxkScc/ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jul 18 21:48:24 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net> <000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: On Jul 18, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > If you are keeping score - I can move the tub from 200 miles in > either > direction of Pittsburgh. > > Say - Detroit/Toledo/Columbus to Harrisburg or a little further > east. I can move it from Harrisburg to Tom's River. Kevin V. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 18 22:02:08 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:02:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Are they "foreign" cars, or are they American? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48816740.5040605@comcast.net> B- Evans wrote: > Car and driver has raised the question of whether some cars are actually > "foreign" or are they American? Oh, they may have foreign badges like > Honda or BMW, but are they really "foreign"? See > http://tinyurl.com/553tlj and decide what you think. > _______________________________________________ > So should we call a chevy a Mexican car? Assembled in Mexico out of *some* US made parts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 18 22:09:51 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:09:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop question... Message-ID: Hello all, I am sprucing up the factory hardtop and have run in to a minor question How do I finish the junction of the rear rubber seal and the side curtain rubber seal. This is the same bristlefelx material it's just I don' know if one should be longer or just a 45 degree junction? Any help appreciated1 Thanks, Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 18 23:07:40 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:07:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Are they "foreign" cars, or are they American? In-Reply-To: <48816740.5040605@comcast.net> Message-ID: I thought Toyota had the most US parts & laber, or is that no longer the case? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 23:40:19 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:40:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Extracting a sawn-off bolt... In-Reply-To: <48814117.9050600@comcast.net> References: <4880B44D.21929.1B90B78@dmg.bossig.com> <48814117.9050600@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807182240o5c65bfabsf8a5b09fd225e8b5@mail.gmail.com> What Frank said. Also, you'll need to enhance your vocabulary a bit.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/18/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Dave G. wrote: > > Well folks, I have tried vice-grips, cutting a slot, PB Blaster, mild > heat and a > > few other options > > Get some serious heat on it. Mapp gass and turn the nut part cherry red. > The size is 7/16 x 20 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 23:42:26 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:42:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: <011f01c8e93e$e4960420$b903f204@spider> References: <011f01c8e93e$e4960420$b903f204@spider> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807182242m15cf608ay68f6ea98d054f1cf@mail.gmail.com> Bill, I lived in England for 6 years in the 1960s. Either the lexicon has changed markedly or the "g" is a typo. I suspect the latter. Cheers!! Jim On 7/18/08, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > > >From the dictionary http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whinge > > .bill > > > > British : to complain fretfully : whine > > - whinge noun British > > =============================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis = > peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of CosmicMag1380 > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 6:15 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! > > > > My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset > > by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is > > not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over > > here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? > If > > not, what does that mean in American? > > > > TIA, > > -- > > Kent > > 1960 Bugeye > > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From hal at katemuir.com Sat Jul 19 00:23:08 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:23:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry, Larry, My wife, whose English credentials are impeccable, pronounces it "winge" with the "h" being silent. Hal -----Original Message----- I believe it is pronounced "Whine" The "g" is silent. As best as I know anyway. Larry worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". _ From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Sat Jul 19 01:18:41 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:18:41 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2EFE14813AB34730BAE4D7993EE85BBE@GuyLaptop> OK, From a Brit, born and bred in Oxford and with 59 years experience of the language. Whine and Whinge are two different words. First is pronounced like the stuff you drink; long "i". Second is pronounced with a very slightly aspirated "h", short "i" and a soft "g" - more a sort of juh noise. OK, got that? "Whinge over" would be similar to "rant over", but a rant would be more forceful, aggressive. A whinge is a bit of a miserable complaining approach, and probably goes on a bit too long. A whine strictly would be the noise - as in "my back axle whines" but can also be used in the same way as whinge but is generally less insistent. Someone admitting to whingeing or whining is using the typically British self-deprecating approach. They are sort of mocking themselves whilst also complaining. Hope you are all learning this. There will be questions next week. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380 Sent: 19 July 2008 02:15 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? If not, what does that mean in American? TIA, -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 02:46:58 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:46:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! In-Reply-To: <2EFE14813AB34730BAE4D7993EE85BBE@GuyLaptop> References: <2EFE14813AB34730BAE4D7993EE85BBE@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: I've got a video file of a Brit comedian carrying on about his luggage and the airlines, and he refers to himself as a "whinging pom". He pronounces it the way Guy explains it. Brad On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > OK, From a Brit, born and bred in Oxford and with 59 years experience of > the > language. > Whine and Whinge are two different words. First is pronounced like the > stuff > you drink; long "i". Second is pronounced with a very slightly aspirated > "h", short "i" and a soft "g" - more a sort of juh noise. > > OK, got that? > "Whinge over" would be similar to "rant over", but a rant would be more > forceful, aggressive. A whinge is a bit of a miserable complaining > approach, > and probably goes on a bit too long. A whine strictly would be the noise - > as in "my back axle whines" but can also be used in the same way as whinge > but is generally less insistent. Someone admitting to whingeing or whining > is using the typically British self-deprecating approach. They are sort of > mocking themselves whilst also complaining. > > Hope you are all learning this. There will be questions next week. > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller = > tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of CosmicMag1380 > Sent: 19 July 2008 02:15 > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! > > > My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who was upset > by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and she is > not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those over > here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant over"? > If > not, what does that mean in American? > > TIA, > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jul 19 03:10:34 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:10:34 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! References: Message-ID: <8939190FF5B44EFEAABB8E5F794CAE92@TAIRS> Larry, It is two seperate words - Whine is the noise made by a worn gearbox bearing before it begins to chatter. Whinge is the noise made by the driver going on about it. Whine is pronounced wine as in the World's 2nd greatest liquid and can be the noise made a nasal woman going on about you being late. Whinge is pronounced as hinge - the things that let your doors swing around - but with a 'w' in front. It is the content of the noise made by a nasal woman going on about you being late. English people are often called 'Whinging poms' by Aussies as they do nothing but complain about their lot in life. Having to work(!), the weather etc, etc. On a similar vein, previous posts about the use of Whimbledon White amused me somewhat as does the perennial inability to differentiate between break and brake. Vive la difference Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: "CosmicMag1380" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Need Some English Translated into English! >I believe it is pronounced "Whine" The "g" is silent. As best as I > know anyway. > > Larry > > > On Jul 18, 2008, at 9:14 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > >> My daughter was in an email discussion with an English client who >> was upset >> by some delays. At the end of the email he wrote "whinge over" and >> she is >> not sure what that means... To my friends across the pond and those >> over >> here that never went back, is that the English equivalent of "rant >> over"? If >> not, what does that mean in American? >> >> TIA, >> -- >> Kent >> 1960 Bugeye >> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of > arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in > sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally > worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From bpazur at excel.net Sat Jul 19 16:53:28 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin Message-ID: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> The halfshaft broke on my street Bugeye! I thought that only happened to race cars - I certainly don't drive Mr. White that sprightly! It broke about an inch and a half from the end, about 1/4" before the end of the splines. It's not a clean crack - its got a spun point on it. And a half inch before the break the end is twisted somewhat - several degrees. Basically, the halfshaft twisted itself in two, like the end was caught and held stationary and the wheel twisted it off. But there was absolutely no warning - no stopped wheel, no sound of any kind. I had just made a turn at about 20 mph. The turn was a left turn, and it is the driver's side halfshaft that broke. All of which makes me wonder - what is the root cause? I cleaned the diff guts in gasoline. There is no obvious damage, other than some scoring inside the cage bearing hub on the side of the broken halfshaft. But the bearings move (a little stiffly, with no lube) and the ball bearings inside don't look damaged. What could have caused the halfshaft to twist itself in two? Just fatigue? A clue - the diff (a 9/38) always knocked (thunked) when I started off in first or backed up. My Haynes says that this could be due to several things, including pinion bearing pre-load being too low. I had torqued it to 140 ft-lb a few years ago, but that didn't eliminate the knock. Haynes say it could also be cause by excessive backlash. There is some backlash between the pinion gear and the crown gear. The crownwheel is inscribed 007 - according to Haynes this is supposed to be the backlash to pinion. This is difficult to measure, but it seems that the backlash is only about .008. However, I have a welded 9/38 that I used in my old red race bugeye - it has more backlash than Mr. White's diff and it never made a knocking noise. What is the collective wisdom of the list, aside from the fact that I need another halfshaft? Does anyone rebuild diffs? TIA Bud From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 19 16:29:41 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:29:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: > All of which makes me wonder - what is the root cause? I cleaned the diff > guts > in gasoline. There is no obvious damage, other than some scoring inside > the > cage bearing hub on the side of the broken halfshaft. But the bearings > move (a > little stiffly, with no lube) and the ball bearings inside don't look > damaged. > What could have caused the halfshaft to twist itself in two? Just fatigue? Bud, That is the typical tale of the broken halfshaft. They were not very well built, especially the ones that came in Bugeyes. The ones built after they discontinued the Sprite tend to be a significant improvement (musta bin all the extra cash they had on hand when they didn't have to pay royalties to the Donald any more ;-). I have heard that a good machinist can clean up the taper where the splines hit the rest of the shaft and spread out the stress over a greater length of the shaft, too. David Lieb From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 16:59:04 2008 From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions Message-ID: <151132.48065.qm@web56007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Ok, these are easy questions, I just have no skills.. 1. When I turn my wheel in my 79 midget I hear kind of a rubbing noise but the noise is by the Steering wheel and not further up or under the car....any ideas what this might be. 2. While driving the other day, I lost the cluster lights on the inside of the car..The bright light indicator was still on, radio was still on, lighter still worked and all the items of the cluster worked (TACH, FUEL, etc)....funny thing is the head lights remained on...When I stopped the car and turned it off, I noticed the lights remained on..I had to actually pull the light switch out and disconnect one of the wires...While doing this a spark flew out of someplace by the light switch..When looking at the light switch, I noticed it did not click on and off, just seemed to go one direction....any ideas on this...(I am guessing switching the light switch...but the last time I had to do that, my headlights were not working, and it turned out to be a fuse and the light switch.....any ideas.. Any help will of course be appreciated. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 20:04:32 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lawmakers Consider Gas Tax Hike Message-ID: <561759.84885.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are these idiots that dumb???? Send them a note on your feelings for a gas tax hike. Vigil http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,386643,00.html From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Jul 19 20:15:51 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:15:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> Bud, David is correct. The first years that I had my car I twisted an axle off about every 18 months. Having very few tools, I would pull the differential and just wash everything off in gas (27 cents a gallon) and put it back together. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 19, 2008, at 3:29 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> All of which makes me wonder - what is the root cause? I cleaned >> the diff >> guts >> in gasoline. There is no obvious damage, other than some scoring >> inside >> the >> cage bearing hub on the side of the broken halfshaft. But the >> bearings >> move (a >> little stiffly, with no lube) and the ball bearings inside don't look >> damaged. >> What could have caused the halfshaft to twist itself in two? Just >> fatigue? > > Bud, > That is the typical tale of the broken halfshaft. They were not > very well > built, especially the ones that came in Bugeyes. The ones built > after they > discontinued the Sprite tend to be a significant improvement (musta > bin all > the extra cash they had on hand when they didn't have to pay > royalties to > the Donald any more ;-). I have heard that a good machinist can > clean up the > taper where the splines hit the rest of the shaft and spread out > the stress > over a greater length of the shaft, too. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 19 20:18:30 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:18:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawmakers Consider Gas Tax Hike In-Reply-To: <561759.84885.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <561759.84885.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48823E06.12295.2A808BE@dmg.bossig.com> On 19 Jul 2008 at 19:04, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: >> Are these idiots that dumb???? Yes they are.... the Great State of Wa$hington added a tax of 5c/gallon last week to pay for someones' pet projects.. >> Send them a note on your feelings for a gas tax hike. Notes. emails and letters had no effect... after all, they get a travel allowance and (at our) expense account - so why should they worry !!! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 20:34:56 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:34:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... Message-ID: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> I am in the proccess of making copies of all my original interior vinyl & hardura bits. The originals are in very poor condition. I have all the kick panels made up, and I am now working on the hardura mats. I have a few questions. On the rear boot hardura mat, along it's rear edge, is a foled and sewn over "hem" of about 2 inches. Why is there such a large hem here? Did something go through it? Wiring harness? Cord to hold mat in place? I am missing the mat directly behind the seats, but I have good photos to make a duplicate. That mat has two cut outs for the top bows to slip into when they are in the stored position. At this location in the cockpit sheet metal there are two screw holes located at a diagonal to each other. Was there a piece of hardware that was mounted at these holes, under the mat, that supported the bows? If so, what did this part look like? I have a set of the original cardboard panels that were on each side of the boot. They have a light gray finish. I also have a single panel from another car. It is a black finish. I am quite certain the gray panels went with the red interiors. I presume the black panel went with a black interior. Are these the only colors the boot cardboard panels came in? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 20:44:53 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:44:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: How did the splines look on the axle that broke? You may have had some play there that was making the noise. The later shafts are stronger. They are identifiable by a grove turned on the splines not far from the end of the shaft. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 20:52:28 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:52:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Two questions In-Reply-To: <151132.48065.qm@web56007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <151132.48065.qm@web56007.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4882A86C.8060907@comcast.net> John Colclasure wrote: > Ok, these are easy questions, I just have no skills.. > > 1. When I turn my wheel in my 79 midget I hear kind of a rubbing noise but the > noise is by the Steering wheel and not further up or under the car....any > ideas what this might be. > Steering wheel rubbing on the plastic cowl. > 2. While driving the other day, I lost the cluster lights on the inside of the > car.. My guess is the switch went south. Red wires work the dash and tail lights. Try hooking the red to the brown at the switch, should get dash and parking lamps. Now try brown to just blue, should get just headlamps. Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Sat Jul 19 20:49:52 2008 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Part needed Message-ID: <607956.80298.qm@web56009.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi, Does anyone have an early water pump pulley (948/1098) that they'd like to sell me? Thanks, Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 19 20:53:54 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:53:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> Message-ID: Those shafts used to break regularly when the cars were still new. Get a set of Seventies Midget shafts. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 19 21:51:12 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:51:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ace Cafe 8th July 08 Message-ID: <006501c8ea1f$3b64b2c0$6501a8c0@shop> Lifted from Jensen List!! If you enjoy British Iron, you WILL love this!! Alan, Guy, Mat, etal; been there?? And everybody can kill the audio!! Sorry, but didn't see even a Frogeye!! LONG but worth it, IMHO!! Last week spent a great couple of hours at the Ace Cafi Classic Car Night (2nd Tues of Month). The usual Jensen suspects were there, enjoying the ambience. Nice to see Dave, Steve Chris, Alan etc, to see them, nice. I took my Vidcam and have posted a sequence on YouTube. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ILzULQ_CZNE From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 21:30:27 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:30:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... In-Reply-To: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> References: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> Message-ID: <722A7088-EC82-4ECA-8203-AB2DC0F1549B@comcast.net> On Jul 19, 2008, at 9:34 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > I am in the proccess of making copies of all my original interior > vinyl & hardura bits. > The originals are in very poor condition. > snip > > > I am missing the mat directly behind the seats, but I have good > photos to make a duplicate. > That mat has two cut outs for the top bows to slip into when they > are in the stored position. > At this location in the cockpit sheet metal there are two screw > holes located at a diagonal to each other. > Was there a piece of hardware that was mounted at these holes, under > the mat, that supported the bows? > If so, what did this part look like? Imagine a box with a hole in the top. That's it. now imagine it with some wings to screw it into those holes. Above those holes should be another single hole that had a rubber bumper in it so that the bow went into the hole and the bumper gave it something to rest against when it was leaned back to be tied. > Lester > snip From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 05:54:44 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 04:54:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ace Cafe 8th July 08 In-Reply-To: <006501c8ea1f$3b64b2c0$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <546764.79935.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've heard about this place. Have not yet had the good fortune of one of my very infrequent England visits coinciding with the one day a month event. Can anybody ID the little red coupe near the end of the video? Not the Lancia, this one is sitting to camera left of the green Abarth-styled Fiat 500 or 600. It had what looked like maybe a chrome Pegasus in the grille. That is a gorgeous little GT! There was also an interesting little blue roadster to the Fiat's left (camera right) that I couldn't ID. Thanks for sharing. - David --- On Sat, 7/19/08, Ed's Shop wrote: From: Ed's Shop Subject: [Spridgets] Ace Cafe 8th July 08 To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, bugeye at yahoogroups.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 10:51 PM Lifted from Jensen List!! If you enjoy British Iron, you WILL love this!! Alan, Guy, Mat, etal; been there?? And everybody can kill the audio!! Sorry, but didn't see even a Frogeye!! LONG but worth it, IMHO!! Last week spent a great couple of hours at the Ace Cafi Classic Car Night (2nd Tues of Month). The usual Jensen suspects were there, enjoying the ambience. Nice to see Dave, Steve Chris, Alan etc, to see them, nice. I took my Vidcam and have posted a sequence on YouTube. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ILzULQ_CZNE You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sun Jul 20 07:12:38 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:12:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> Message-ID: <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > (27 cents a > gallon) and put it back together. Bob, When I started buying gas it was 32 cents a gallon......... You must be older than me ;) At that time, I had a Triumph Herald and it took about $2.50 to fill it. Kevin V. From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 20 08:35:38 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:35:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <07b101c8ea75$e1f0d870$4e947e4c@HP> Bob is older then dirt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Kitterer Bob" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin > On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: >> (27 cents a >> gallon) and put it back together. > > > Bob, > > When I started buying gas it was 32 cents a gallon......... You must > be older than me ;) From bugi1960 at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 09:05:41 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:05:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] tach drive question Message-ID: <193C9504-83FF-4FE6-896C-4531C4D4DA99@gmail.com> I have what must be a later tach drive on my generator. Will this work with a stock Bugeye tach? The drive I have has a courser thread for the cable and is aprox 7/8". Can I get a cable that will drive the stock tach? thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From bpazur at excel.net Sun Jul 20 11:42:03 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft Message-ID: <001601c8ea8f$ec21f350$5de767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Thanks for all your replies. The upshot seems to be that I just need a new halfsaft, the diff is OK. Bud From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 20 11:30:06 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... In-Reply-To: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> References: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> Message-ID: <0DF37A6A-3AA0-4131-875C-C56CCAAD9838@mac.com> Dean, As soon as I go to the garage I will take a picture of the hardware and send it to you off list. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 19, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Was there a piece of hardware that was mounted at these holes, > under the mat, that supported the bows? > If so, what did this part look like? > > I have a set of the original cardboard panels that were on each > side of the boot. They have a light gray > finish. I also have a single panel from another car. It is a > black finish. From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 20 11:37:44 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <93AE2F99-85C9-4DEF-A1BF-6D395AB60526@mac.com> Most likely :-) Gas stations use to give you gifts if you filled your tank and the total was at least $2, I could never get the gifts. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 20, 2008, at 6:12 AM, K. Valentine wrote: > Bob, > > When I started buying gas it was 32 cents a gallon......... You > must be older than me ;) > > At that time, I had a Triumph Herald and it took about $2.50 to > fill it. > > Kevin V. From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 20 11:39:48 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:39:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <07b101c8ea75$e1f0d870$4e947e4c@HP> References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> <07b101c8ea75$e1f0d870$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <08A54B22-092B-4AE5-8C65-62525F3B6B50@mac.com> LOL you put a smile on my face this morning Larry. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 20, 2008, at 7:35 AM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Bob is older then dirt. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" > > To: "Kitterer Bob" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 6:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin > > >> On Jul 19, 2008, at 10:15 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: >>> (27 cents a >>> gallon) and put it back together. >> Bob, >> When I started buying gas it was 32 cents a gallon......... You >> must be older than me ;) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 20 11:43:16 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:43:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cost of gasoline Message-ID: <013f01c8ea90$18832fe0$7803f204@spider> During The Depression they gave away dishware if you bought a movie ticket; Depression ware. ...bill ========================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:38 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin Most likely :-) Gas stations use to give you gifts if you filled your tank and the total was at least $2, I could never get the gifts. Bob Kitterer From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sun Jul 20 11:56:05 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:56:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <93AE2F99-85C9-4DEF-A1BF-6D395AB60526@mac.com> References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> <93AE2F99-85C9-4DEF-A1BF-6D395AB60526@mac.com> Message-ID: <37F5A35D-2052-4128-8FF0-001BFDF3BF0F@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Most likely :-) > > Gas stations use to give you gifts if you filled your tank and the > total was at least $2, I could never get the gifts. I think I still have a metal Sinclair Dinosaur I got with a fill up and I got more than one box of free candy at the Stuckey's on Rt 43 in Portage county Ohio. My local station would not only pump the gas, but also check "under the hood", and clean the windows....... Kevin V. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Jul 20 12:58:26 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:58:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cost of gasoline In-Reply-To: <013f01c8ea90$18832fe0$7803f204@spider> Message-ID: corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: "During The Depression they gave away dishware if you bought a movie ticket; Depression ware." And if you bought a set of encyclopedias, they tossed in a lot on the hill overlooking Laguna Beach and the ocean. Value today: $800K to $1M, including an old house. (Down by about &400K.) You can keep the Depressionware, I'll take the property. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 20 13:14:29 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <013f01c8ea90$18832fe0$7803f204@spider> Message-ID: <20080720191432.EACD2618.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I have never seen before. A Phillips? On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my MKIII had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... I think I need one :) Chris 66 MKIII Brookfield, WI From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 20 12:31:24 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 11:31:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin In-Reply-To: <37F5A35D-2052-4128-8FF0-001BFDF3BF0F@valentinephoto.net> References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com> <1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net> <93AE2F99-85C9-4DEF-A1BF-6D395AB60526@mac.com> <37F5A35D-2052-4128-8FF0-001BFDF3BF0F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: Careful Kevin or you are going to be as old as dirt too. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 20, 2008, at 10:56 AM, K. Valentine wrote: > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Most likely :-) >> >> Gas stations use to give you gifts if you filled your tank and the >> total was at least $2, I could never get the gifts. > > I think I still have a metal Sinclair Dinosaur I got with a fill > up and I got more than one box of free candy at the Stuckey's on Rt > 43 in Portage county Ohio. > > My local station would not only pump the gas, but also check > "under the hood", and clean the windows....... > > Kevin V. From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jul 20 13:46:39 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:46:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <20080720191432.EACD2618.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <013f01c8ea90$18832fe0$7803f204@spider> <20080720191432.EACD2618.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: I thought that it had a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, 850cc or some such. > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- > > I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. > These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I have > never seen before. A Phillips? > > On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my MKIII > had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... > > I think I need one :) > > Chris > > > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 20 14:15:30 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:15:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: References: <013f01c8ea90$18832fe0$7803f204@spider><20080720191432.EACD2618.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <016101c8eaa5$5c80afa0$7803f204@spider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphicar ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Masquelier Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:47 PM To: Chris Manuel; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) I thought that it had a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, 850cc or some such. > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- > > I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. > These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I have > never seen before. A Phillips? > > On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my MKIII > had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... > > I think I need one :) > > Chris > > > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jul 20 14:15:31 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:15:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Car Mags Message-ID: I have decided to divest myself of a bunch of car magazines. Anyone who wants to pay postage for these is welcome to them. Midget & Sprite Vol 1, Issues 1-3 British Car Magazine from Issue 70 of December 1997 to the final Issue 102 April 2003. Missing 72, 74, 75, 80, and 82. Classic Motorsports from #104 to #134, missing a dozen issue or so. Grassroot Motorsports most of 10/2005 to present. Hemmings Sports & Exotics most of 4/2006 to present. Anyone interested in these deathless classics? David Lieb Palatine, Illinois 60067 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 20 15:42:55 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:42:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin References: <002001c8e9f2$590f9510$23e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH><4E1E2DFA-D3BD-4755-8A3B-64BEA7C198FD@mac.com><1A686A29-32F0-40D4-8B81-8C5D352F28BF@valentinephoto.net><93AE2F99-85C9-4DEF-A1BF-6D395AB60526@mac.com><37F5A35D-2052-4128-8FF0-001BFDF3BF0F@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <002101c8eab1$924f4a40$6501a8c0@shop> <> After I suprized him by just showing up at his last LBC PA Rally Bob, I am BETTING Kev AGED a least half a decade!! So he IS 'catching up'!!!! LOL From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 20 14:52:57 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:52:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <016101c8eaa5$5c80afa0$7803f204@spider> Message-ID: One of the locals got an Amphicar when I was kid living on the Mississippi river. They drove off the launching ramp and then started waving frantically. Their top speed in the water was about 7mph. The speed of the current was about 7mph. They were about fifty feet south of the ramp and couldn't get back. The fire dept. had to come and throw them a rope. Maybe they'd do better in a lake. On land it drove pretty good...for a boat. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 20 14:54:05 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:54:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, Hillman was Rootes, like an Alpine. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 20 15:14:46 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:14:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> I stand corrected, but at least it looked *very* familiar to what I was looking at all day in the garage; and cool at that. :-) I never knew the German roots, and figured it had AMC guts, etc. Thanks for the links Chris _____ From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:47 PM To: Chris Manuel; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) I thought that it had a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, 850cc or some such. > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- > > I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. > These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I have > never seen before. A Phillips? > > On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my MKIII > had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... > > I think I need one :) > > Chris > > > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI From dwramsey at att.net Sun Jul 20 16:05:33 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:05:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080720220619.6CFF518763D@autox.team.net> And it sailed pretty good......for a car. Crash Maybe they'd do better in a lake. On land it drove pretty good...for a boat. BZ From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 20 16:35:43 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:35:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <20080720220619.6CFF518763D@autox.team.net> References: , <20080720220619.6CFF518763D@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <48835B4F.19203.7027057@dmg.bossig.com> Many (many) years ago, when I was still living in the UK, I watched as the BBC TV covered two guys driving a VW beetle from Calais, France to Dover, England to prove they didn't leak....... and it made it!! On 20 Jul 2008 at 15:05, David Ramsey wrote: >> And it sailed pretty good......for a car. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From apexshot at att.net Sun Jul 20 17:14:46 2008 From: apexshot at att.net (James Coppage) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:14:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Message-ID: <189524.80799.qm@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A large amount of Spriget parts found in Northern Calif. Call Danny Ide 1-530-410-2826 Jim Coppage From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 20 19:36:39 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:36:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! References: Message-ID: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> Can and body I.D. this radiator?? http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jul 20 18:55:12 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:55:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! In-Reply-To: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> References: , <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <48837C00.19064.782025C@dmg.bossig.com> Looks just like the one in my 64/65 Spridget.... Or am I missing a small clue??? On 20 Jul 2008 at 19:36, Ed's Shop wrote: >> Can and body I.D. this radiator?? >> >> http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 20 19:18:12 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:18:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! In-Reply-To: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> References: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Yeah, it's mine. Please return it. Robert D. -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop Can and body I.D. this radiator?? http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 19:44:24 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! In-Reply-To: <48837C00.19064.782025C@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <531246.40010.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Can and body I.D. this radiator?? > > http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html If it's different than the one on my Bugeye or the 5 or 6 spare ones hanging in my basement, I'm missing something. From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 20 19:48:16 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:48:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! References: , <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> <48837C00.19064.782025C@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <003d01c8ead3$d8268020$6401a8c0@personal> Early Bugeye with the three groves. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Ed's Shop" ; Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! > Looks just like the one in my 64/65 Spridget.... > Or am I missing a small clue??? > > On 20 Jul 2008 at 19:36, Ed's Shop wrote: > >>> Can and body I.D. this radiator?? >>> >>> http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 2:01 PM From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 20 20:16:16 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head Gasket woes Message-ID: <4883F170.4020804@comcast.net> Another year, another head gasket blew. Same spot, #2 cylinder and water into the cylinder. Again, I have this low speed miss but it goes away at about 1500 rpms. changed the plugs, no change, compression test showed great compression but I could smell the coolant squirting out around the compression gauge. Pull the gauge off and I can see coolant squirting out of the spark plug hole. At least it made it to Missouri and back before blowing. So the next day it's under 95* out in the garage, I guess I have a small project to do. And this is exactly what happened in May of 2007, blown gasket @ #2 cyl. So what am I looking for? Warped head? Twisted engine block? or just crappy gaskets? The 1st one that blew was a good one, this one was a standard gasket, and no I do NOT want copper, I have blown EVERY copper gasket I ever tried on 4 or 5 different Sprites and Minis over the years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 20 21:14:56 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:14:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! References: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <007401c8eadf$f4433170$6501a8c0@shop> Sure WISH you gents had written Jeff and NOT me 'cause I gots WAY more extra mail than I need!! And I agree. Except (and I do NOT even have a clue), Jeff'f Frogeye is RHD?!?!? Tnx!! From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jul 20 20:36:45 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:36:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: No Chris- you weren't wrong (sort-of) it is the same engine as a 1500 Midget so you are as correct (or incorrect) as I was! Bill > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:14:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > I stand corrected, but at least it looked *very* familiar to what I was > looking at all day in the garage; and cool at that. :-) I never knew the > German roots, and figured it had AMC guts, etc. > > > > Thanks for the links > > > > Chris > > > > _____ > > From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:47 PM > To: Chris Manuel; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > > > I thought that it had a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, 850cc or some > such. > > > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 > > Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > > > Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- > > > > I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. > > These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I have > > never seen before. A Phillips? > > > > On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my > MKIII > > had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... > > > > I think I need one :) > > > > Chris > > > > > > 66 MKIII > > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From htpc2 at comcast.net Sun Jul 20 22:48:44 2008 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick Sorak) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:48:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage Message-ID: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... Should I be lookin for more, or is this 'bout right? Thanks Rick From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 22:50:29 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:50:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! In-Reply-To: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> References: <01e101c8ead2$38f52200$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807202150u4a1b7ff6h9b476bccb183cb91@mail.gmail.com> Some background. This radiator was donated for the silent auction at LotO. Jeff Kelly won the auction but found that the top and bottom hose flanges are larger than standard BE ones. I forget what size Jeff said they were. Unfortunately, it was a last minute donation to the auction and we didn't get a record of who donated it. If you know, please contact Jeff Kelly or Ed so he can pass the info on to Jeff. Cheers!! Jim On 7/20/08, Ed's Shop wrote: > > Can and body I.D. this radiator?? > > http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html > _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 22:54:59 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: References: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> Just saw one of these last week in the museum at Minden, Nebraska. I've got a couple of pics somewhere. I'll have to look them up. I actually remember seeing a few of them back in the day when I lived in the UK. Didn't they have one in a Bond film once? Cheers!! Jim On 7/20/08, Bill Masquelier wrote: > > No Chris- you weren't wrong (sort-of) it is the same engine as a 1500 > Midget > so you are as correct (or incorrect) as I was! > Bill > > > > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:14:46 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > > > > I stand corrected, but at least it looked *very* familiar to what I was > > looking at all day in the garage; and cool at that. :-) I never knew the > > German roots, and figured it had AMC guts, etc. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the links > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:47 PM > > To: Chris Manuel; spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > > > > > > > I thought that it had a Triumph (Hillman actually) engine, 850cc or some > > such. > > > > > From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:14:29 -0500 > > > Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) > > > > > > Or Ampficar if you look at the side script. Anyway- > > > > > > I had the opportunity to take a look at an active restoration project. > > > These things had Austin engines? Wild! This thing had a carb set up I > have > > > never seen before. A Phillips? > > > > > > On the other side, that is a very odd drivetrain layout. I thought my > > MKIII > > > had some awkward parts to get to. This one really defies logic... > > > > > > I think I need one :) > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > 66 MKIII > > > Brookfield, WI > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. > > http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ > Refresh_messenger_video_072008 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 00:34:38 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) Message-ID: <423762.12189.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> -- On Sun, 7/20/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > UK. Didn't they have one in a Bond film once? There was a Giugiaro designed Esprit submarine that made me run out and get one as fast as I possible could. Being 11, it took a while but i had it before I turned 30, though; Drove it every day for 3 years like I was was qualifying. It made a fine car until it revealed itself to be a torch, From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Jul 21 03:27:01 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <936627.30736.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Rick, are you running SU's or a Weber? SU's should be able to get you a bit more.. I have heard of people getting 40mpg out of Webers , but I'm thinking they must drive like my Nanna. They way you drive is the way they are meant to be driven. I like to set off the alarms in parked cars as I drive past. 1293, cam, LCB, single HIF44 SU. getting about 30mpg. but then I do more highway...and have a 5speed box for that reason. Andy Brisbane, AU (had to revise down my mpg figure... we had imperial gallons, before we went metric..) --- On Mon, 21/7/08, Rick Sorak wrote: > From: Rick Sorak > Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Received: Monday, 21 July, 2008, 2:48 PM > I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w > /1310cc > Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. > driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about > 20 MPG.... > > Should I be lookin for more, or is this 'bout right? > > Thanks > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au From n.hales at bigpond.net.au Mon Jul 21 04:05:53 2008 From: n.hales at bigpond.net.au (Nigel Hales) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:05:53 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Halfshaft and Thunkin Punkin Message-ID: <48845F81.6020901@bigpond.net.au> Broken half-shafts...more than likely the vehicle has been jacked one to many times from under the diff centre housing, this has the effect of putting a bow in the axle housing, end-2-end, particularly as the diff housing ages and the welds weaken to the flanges. Not always the case, as I have seen some that have simply sagged down, while others have a side ways twist, most likely the bow was in the construction from day 1 when not jigged correctly. This puts a lot of strain on the axles, as they no longer line up with the output gear, and run at an angle, and the most likely time for failure is when cornering, as the wind up in the diff causing the bind to be exaggerated. Over a period of time, a twist develops in the shafts, evident by some dis-colouration of the shaft close to the spline, as this is where the maching initially caused the weakness. This was all to prevalent in early landrovers, when many a weekend was spent in 2 wheel drive with the centre diff locked due to axle breakage. Simple fix is take out the complte axle and check for true end-2-end, most likley you will continue to break axles until the bow is fixed. From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jul 21 04:36:11 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:36:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4884669B.90304@verizon.net> Just found this old slide I took on Little Sebego lake in Maine back in the 60's. chuck Jim Johnson wrote: > Just saw one of these last week in the museum at Minden, Nebraska. I've got > a couple of pics somewhere. I'll have to look them up. From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jul 21 04:40:13 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:40:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <4884669B.90304@verizon.net> References: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> <4884669B.90304@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4884678D.4030602@verizon.net> ooops, forgot the link: http://mysite.verizon.net/cciaffone/charl48/67augMe-amphib.jpg chuck wrote: > Just found this old slide I took on Little Sebego lake in > Maine back in the 60's. > > chuck From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 21 05:31:48 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:31:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <003501c8eb25$5d686860$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Rick, Sounds a bit thirsty, to me.......but then you don't say what Crane cam you are running, or which carburetor(s) you are using. What about spark advance curve? Your cam profile will work much better with a distributor that has been modified to provide the optimum advance curve for the cam & carburetion set up for your modified engine. Having the right spark advance will make an absolutely STARTLING difference in your engine's performance, as well as fuel consumption. In general, we (Brit car owners) tend to neglect our ignition systems, and be content with sticking a Pertronics system into our worn, weak-springed distributors, or going to a Mallory (or other) "high performance" distributor, which is not going to have the correct advance curve for our engines. It has been written: "the A series engine doesn't really care how HOT the spark is, but it DOES care about when that spark occurs". Last year, in response to my inquiry about rebuilding/restoration service for our Lucas 25D distributors; some of the guys on this list recommended Advance Distributors, in Minnesota. I sent a core distributor to the guy (his name if Jeff Schlemer), and was HIGHLY pleased with the results. I have since referred others, from our local MG and Triumph clubs, to Jeff and they too have gotten impressive results. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Sorak Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 11:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... Should I be lookin for more, or is this 'bout right? Thanks Rick You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From gmari2 at verizon.net Mon Jul 21 05:53:32 2008 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:53:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Assistence, please!! Message-ID: <3787676.2297171216641212535.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> What's the part number on the little tag on top of the radiator. George Marinos On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Some background. This radiator was donated for the silent auction at > LotO. > Jeff Kelly won the auction but found that the top and bottom hose > flanges > are larger than standard BE ones. I forget what size Jeff said they > were. > Unfortunately, it was a last minute donation to the auction and we > didn't > get a record of who donated it. If you know, please contact Jeff > Kelly or > Ed so he can pass the info on to Jeff. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 7/20/08, Ed's Shop wrote: >> >> Can and body I.D. this radiator?? >> >> http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/JK_Radiator.html >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gmari2 at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 21 05:56:08 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:56:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <003f01c8eb28$c4868ab0$8803f204@spider> That is about right, given the technology in 1965. You can push it a bit but too lean and you'll burn valves. ...bill in oregon ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Sorak Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... Should I be lookin for more, or is this 'bout right? Thanks Rick _______________________________________________ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jul 21 06:00:11 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:00:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <003f01c8eb28$c4868ab0$8803f204@spider> Message-ID: <20080721115956.CB60318765B@autox.team.net> Last tank of gas in my stock 1098 Sprite yielded 42 mpg which was highway and city driving. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:56 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mileage That is about right, given the technology in 1965. You can push it a bit but too lean and you'll burn valves. ...bill in oregon ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Sorak Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... Should I be lookin for more, or is this 'bout right? Thanks Rick From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 21 06:01:20 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:01:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080720211449.WZWA21973.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <43840a7e0807202154v7ba76fcfu2bc61d4ccbc6cf7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004601c8eb29$7e2f6180$8803f204@spider> I don't find it, but that could be me. http://www.amphicar.com/amphicars_in_the_movies.htm ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:55 PM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) Just saw one of these last week in the museum at Minden, Nebraska. I've got a couple of pics somewhere. I'll have to look them up. I actually remember seeing a few of them back in the day when I lived in the UK. Didn't they have one in a Bond film once? Cheers!! Jim From davegran at ticon.net Mon Jul 21 09:06:07 2008 From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another year, another head gasket blew. Message-ID: <4884A5DF.7095@ticon.net> Frank Clarici wrote: > > Same spot, #2 cylinder and water into the cylinder. > Again, I have this low speed miss but it goes away at about 1500 rpms. > changed the plugs, no change, compression test showed great compression > but I could smell the coolant squirting out around the compression > gauge. Pull the gauge off and I can see coolant squirting out of the > spark plug hole. > At least it made it to Missouri and back before blowing. > So the next day it's under 95* out in the garage, I guess I have a small > project to do. > And this is exactly what happened in May of 2007, blown gasket @ #2 cyl. > So what am I looking for? Warped head? Twisted engine block? or just > crappy gaskets? > The 1st one that blew was a good one, this one was a standard gasket, > and no I do NOT want copper, I have blown EVERY copper gasket I ever > tried on 4 or 5 different Sprites and Minis over the years. Hi Frank, First off, I assume that you've checked the head and block for flatness and that you can actually see where the gasket failed, yes? And same with the last occurance, you could see the failure point? If yes, then I would try three things: first, retap all the head bolt holes in the block to make sure they are full depth, not buggered up, and there's a chamfer on each hole; second, make sure that the volume in the #2 chamber is not less than the other ones (higher c/r)and there are no sharp edges to cause preignition; third, I'd use the old trick of spraying a coat of real aluminum paint on the new gasket before using it. Back in the day, it was found that the microscopic overlapping particles of aluminum did a super job of sealing on problem heads. Then I'd retorque (By the way, is your torque wrench accurate?) after cooling down from the first good heat cycle, and every 500 miles until the bolts settle down. If you can't actually see a failure point, I'd use a different head, suspecting a crack. If none of this works, better get your retired priest to do an Exorcism.... -- Dave Grandeffo www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com Southern Wisconsin USA From htpc2 at comcast.net Mon Jul 21 11:07:39 2008 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick Sorak) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:07:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage Message-ID: <01c301c8eb54$48a963a0$6400a8c0@htpc> To answer some of the questions.... Yes running Su's w/ stock 1098 needles about 1/8" higher in the piston. Raising the needles solved a lean condition. The cam (crane #344-0012) is not a huge one max rpm like 5600rpm reccommended. Complete cams specs here: http://www.cranecams.com/?show=browseParts&action=partSpec&partNumber=344-001 2&lvl=2&prt=5 The dist. IS stock....I can mod it...What specs should I be looking for? Anyone know? I have been wanting to upgrade to electronic ign. as well. I did think the cam was bigger as the engine really starts to pull @ 5000 and pulls good to 6500. No sign of valve float @ 6000 like cranes website suggests..... Thanks for everyones suggestions Rick From richb at u.washington.edu Mon Jul 21 13:53:19 2008 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:53:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet Message-ID: The Western Washington All British Field Meet is this Saturday the 26th. Do we have any list members planning to in attendance? My wife and I will be there as spectators. Just thought it might be nice to meet some locals in person. http://www.abfm.com/abfm.htm Rich and Susan Ball Everett, Wa From conan at intrex.net Mon Jul 21 14:33:05 2008 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:33:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Amphicar (sort of LBC) Message-ID: <200807211633.AA1083572542@intrex.net> I remember seeing one of these (new) being raffled off in Rose City, Arkansas (near Little Rock) back in the mid-60s. :-) Ed in NC From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jul 21 16:10:35 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:10:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net><000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Charley: I could meet you in Toledo at Tony Packo's for beer and brats. We could move the tub over and you could drive to the confessional. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 5:42 PM To: Charley Braum; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Come on Charlie! You're a Penguins fan! There aren't enough Hail Marys, Our Fathers, or beads on a rosary to save your butt! Now if you were a Devils or Rangers fan it would be a local phone call..... ;-) Cheers!!! Jim On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > If you are keeping score - I can move the tub from 200 miles in either > direction of Pittsburgh. > > Say - Detroit/Toledo/Columbus to Harrisburg or a little further east. > > For an all-encompassing forgiveness I could take it all the way to Tom's > River - however, I'm not sure Father Jack has THAT much pull with the 'Big > Guy"!! > > Let me know. > > > CB From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 21 16:53:40 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:53:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> Hello Richard, I for one will be there. So will Bill M... you can tell our sprites because they both have the Lake of the Ozarks 50th badges in the grills.. also mine has a Spridgets at autox.team.net sticker high up on the passenger side windscreen. .. also probably the only two red box sprites at the show.. SEE YA THERE! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Telepathy is minding someone else's business. From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jul 21 17:54:01 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:54:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride In-Reply-To: References: <487EB62B.6070509@comcast.net><000d01c8e91b$a20cdd40$6401a8c0@universal1> <43840a7e0807181442wcf1191ch44ab5f30e400834d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48852199.50909@verizon.net> Sounds like a plan - just waiting for the word (so to speak!). CB From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 21 18:27:53 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> References: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> Message-ID: <48852989.4060903@comcast.net> Rick Sorak wrote: > I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc > Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. > driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... > > > With my Weber I was lucky to get 25 mpg on the highway, 20 around town. I put a pair of SUs on it for the summer trips, Missouri was a 2 day drive, and I was getting 42 mpg. Big difference in mileage, small difference in performance. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jul 21 18:37:54 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:37:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU's & Webers... Message-ID: <4884C972.16624.227A10A@dmg.bossig.com> IMHO.... For general 'spirited' all-round general driving, it's hard to beat a pair of tuned SU's with 1 to 1.5" stub stacks... mine are hidden inside a pair of 3.5" K&N filters... I also stuck a LCB extractor exhaust on my old '67 (when I had it) and it went like stink... didn't do so bad either in SCCA Solo II running against 1.8 FI VW's.... I usually got 32-35 mpg overall.... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:35:21 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:35:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mileage In-Reply-To: <48852989.4060903@comcast.net> References: <019c01c8eaed$0e991000$6400a8c0@htpc> <48852989.4060903@comcast.net> Message-ID: Many years ago I had a 1098 and would drive it hard. In town I usually got around 22 to 25 MPG but one time I took a 150 mile trip and STAYED at 55 MPH and got 42 MPG. It depends on how you drive. Bill > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:27:53 -0400 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: htpc2 at comcast.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mileage > > Rick Sorak wrote: > > I decided to check the mileage on my '65 midget w /1310cc > > Crane cam header frequently see 6000-6500 RPM. > > driving around town like I stole it, I'm getting about 20 MPG.... > > > > > > > With my Weber I was lucky to get 25 mpg on the highway, 20 around town. > I put a pair of SUs on it for the summer trips, Missouri was a 2 day > drive, and I was getting 42 mpg. > Big difference in mileage, small difference in performance. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_072008 From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 21 19:38:19 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:38:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> Message-ID: As BillL said we'll both be there! BillM > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:53:40 -0700 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: richb at u.washington.edu > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet > > Hello Richard, > > I for one will be there. So will Bill M... you can tell our > sprites because they both have the Lake of the Ozarks 50th badges > in the grills.. also mine has a Spridgets at autox.team.net sticker > high up on the passenger side windscreen. .. also probably the > only two red box sprites at the show.. SEE YA THERE! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Telepathy is minding someone else's business. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 21 20:17:28 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Priest's new Bugeye needs a ride Message-ID: <200807220217.m6M2HSvi000239@berna.ucdavis.edu> Progress! The heritage certificate is in and a VIN plate has materialized and will shortly lead to a title. A new perfectly stamped VIN, a first miracle for the Holy Spirite.(TM) Glen From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 21 21:42:49 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:42:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU's & Webers... In-Reply-To: <4884C972.16624.227A10A@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4884C972.16624.227A10A@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <995234209.20080721204249@pacifier.com> Hello Dave, i have deep enough K&Ns for the 1 1/2" stacks but right now i'm running 1/2" stubs.. .. .. is there really a difference?.. should i put the taller stacks back in?... (i own both sizes) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I'd better repeat that SOS message," said Tom remorsefully. From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 21 21:44:40 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:44:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> Hello Timothy, i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. someone on the list had them made up.. sticky is on the front side so the go inside the window where they can stay dry.... .. i bought TWO, used ONE... have ONE...... TREASURE! anyone know who did this?... time for more? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "I won't stand for painting," said Tom uneasily. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 21:57:33 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <524738.43641.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Bill L wrote: > > i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. someone > anyone know who did this?... time for more? Frank's dad. Time for more! From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jul 21 22:01:25 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:01:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget dtickers In-Reply-To: <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <26E57C31-87B2-42A4-B506-C2ACB50A5D28@mac.com> Was it Kevin that designed the sticker and Frank's dad did the printing ??? Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 21, 2008, at 8:44 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Timothy, > > i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. someone on the > list had them made up.. sticky is on the front side so the go > inside the window where they can stay dry.... .. > > > i bought TWO, used ONE... have ONE...... TREASURE! > > anyone know who did this?... time for more? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > * "I won't stand for painting," said Tom uneasily. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 22 07:46:23 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp Message-ID: <01a201c8ec01$54fc1c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Here's one for the "love it or hate it" file. http://tinyurl.com/5kn3cb From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 08:02:12 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Update - SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7, 2008 Message-ID: <25626869.1216735332675.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Dear NorCal British Car Enthusiast, The Sierra Point British Car Meet in Brisbane is coming along great - This year, the food and drink will be handled by the Brisbane Lions Club, that will have their grill trailer with burgers, dogs, and (hopefully) bangers all day plus cold drinks, but get this!!! The Sierra Point Yacht Club will open their doors early on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down, prix fix breakfast, AND, they also have a full bar that will be open all day as well ...... Due to a number of reasons, the Saturday swap meet has been canceled for this year, but it will seriously be reconsidered for next year. If you belong to a club, make sure the general membership knows about this Sierra Point meet - meet old friends in a new location - carrying on the tradition. Cheers, Rick Feibusch Meet Coordinator - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - THE BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008 Sierra Point Marina * Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday * September 6th & 7th Join us for one of the most historic British automotive events in California at our new dockside venue at the Sierra Point Marina. Over 400 quirky, classic, and thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the lawn and adjacent parking area in Brisbane, California. This is essentially the old Palo Alto meet in its new location. We are also expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for free. SUNDAY SHOW - SEPTEMBER 7th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Marina. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. British food, jazz, & more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! Awards in many classes. There will be no preregistration - all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is still $25 per car at the gate. SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Sierra Point Marina boathouse (the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon. DIRECTIONS: The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just take the Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: Sierra Point Marina Britmeet From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 22 10:12:37 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp In-Reply-To: <01a201c8ec01$54fc1c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: That's the ugliest Moke I've ever seen, but I like the Honda VTEC power. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 22 10:18:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:18:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe I didn't read it right ( or completely ), but I thought that was just a random photo stuck in there. The car that it is in is pink and the ad description says "1275", IIRC. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Billy Zoom That's the ugliest Moke I've ever seen, but I like the Honda VTEC power. From cclabaw at juno.com Tue Jul 22 10:29:07 2008 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:29:07 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp Message-ID: <20080722.092907.13442.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Kind'a the definitive square wheel well. Clay L. -- "Larry Daniels" wrote: Here's one for the "love it or hate it" file. http://tinyurl.com/5kn3cb You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great vacation. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nJgxxb4EAukxciGA4OgrYNx4hk ic5catjpvntebzRiW4N5a/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 22 10:55:04 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp References: Message-ID: <01e201c8ec1b$b1585f10$6401a8c0@Larry> The photo of the VTEC was a different car. It is of a different color and is a Moke, not a Scamp, although the Scamp is obviously Moke based as BZ said. Now, a VTEC powered Moke would be fun. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp Maybe I didn't read it right ( or completely ), but I thought that was just a random photo stuck in there. The car that it is in is pink and the ad description says "1275", IIRC. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Billy Zoom That's the ugliest Moke I've ever seen, but I like the Honda VTEC power. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jul 22 10:59:15 2008 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:59:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Since both of you made the trek to LOTO I thought you'd probably make it to Bellevue for the ABFM. See you Saturday. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Masquelier To: Bill L ; Richard Ball Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet As BillL said we'll both be there! BillM > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:53:40 -0700 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: richb at u.washington.edu > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet > > Hello Richard, > > I for one will be there. So will Bill M... you can tell our > sprites because they both have the Lake of the Ozarks 50th badges > in the grills.. also mine has a Spridgets at autox.team.net sticker > high up on the passenger side windscreen. .. also probably the > only two red box sprites at the show.. SEE YA THERE! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Telepathy is minding someone else's business. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. Connect on the go. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Jul 22 12:40:09 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp In-Reply-To: <01a201c8ec01$54fc1c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <39591.60573.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry, I have seen this car in person. It really does not look that bad with the back top in place. With the Honda motor it has plenty of get up and go. Still - Not my cup of tea - as they say. Vigil --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Larry Daniels wrote: From: Larry Daniels Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Scamp To: "Spridgets List" , midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 6:46 AM Here's one for the "love it or hate it" file. http://tinyurl.com/5kn3cb You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevor at boicey.com Tue Jul 22 12:48:45 2008 From: trevor at boicey.com (Trevor Boicey) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:48:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Panels to sell... Message-ID: <48862B8D.2010308@boicey.com> I found a box of panels I forgot I had, and I don't have my Spridget anymore. I have: - Left and Right outer rocker panels. These are the Midget 1500 ones with two jack holes, but easy to close the back holes to use on CBB cars - Left and Right outer A post skins - Left and Right real wheel arch repair panels, square wheel arch. These are the ones that go up to a few inches above the wheel arch. Brand new still in shipping box. Any interest? From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 22 13:11:19 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:11:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU's & Webers... In-Reply-To: <995234209.20080721204249@pacifier.com> References: <4884C972.16624.227A10A@dmg.bossig.com>, <995234209.20080721204249@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4885CE67.15058.DC3922@dmg.bossig.com> Hi Bill, I'm just using the stub-staks right now. I'll consider putting the stacks back on when the engine has been set up per the book and I've solve the slight burning oil problem.... As you know, the primary job of stub stacks is to reduce the air flow turbulence before it hits the SU venturi and are supposed to be good for a 'free' 2-3 BHP increase. A secondary effect is to act as part of the "tuned" system formed by the intake, combustion chamber and exhaust... When we were racing Mini's we found that, depending on the length, Ram stacks were good for more HP and brought the power and torque in at lower rpms'. Ramstacks are really just stub stacks with a longer tube welded on... but make sure the open end has a really good 'bell' shape on it... having the edges rolled over is even better ;-)) Does this help?? Also, if you are going to the ABFM, I'm looking for two bits to secure the freshair/heater tube... On page 77 of the Brit-Vic catalogue, I'm looking for the part numbered 46 and the part above the number 53 in the diagrams... If you happen to find them, I'd be more than willing to compenstae you for your time. trouble nd expense... Or, if you have a suggestion of how I can secure the air tube to the from mud panel..... TIA Dave G On 21 Jul 2008 at 20:42, Bill L wrote: >> i have deep enough K&Ns for the 1 1/2" stacks but right now i'm >> running 1/2" stubs.. .. .. is there really a difference?.. should >> i put the taller stacks back in?... (i own both sizes) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 15:15:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:15:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > Hello Timothy, > > i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. > > anyone know who did this?... time for more? > > My Dad made them. Do we need more? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 22 15:26:26 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:26:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> References: , <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com>, <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4885EE12.2215.157ED88@dmg.bossig.com> Put me down for one... please!! On 22 Jul 2008 at 17:15, Frank Clarici wrote: >> My Dad made them. >> Do we need more? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 22 16:26:26 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> And just what is a Spridget sticker. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet > Bill L wrote: >> Hello Timothy, >> >> i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. >> >> anyone know who did this?... time for more? >> >> > My Dad made them. > Do we need more? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 22 16:50:44 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:50:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Stickers. In-Reply-To: <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1016738069.20080722155044@pacifier.com> Hello Frank, It seems that there is at least ONE person who wants some.. i would take a couple more myself, just because i only have ONE in reserve...... anyone else?... gotta make it worthwhile ! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Famous last words: 'You saw a WHAT around the corner?!' From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 22 16:57:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:57:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1511354186.20080722155753@pacifier.com> Hello Richard, I've been attending this show for about 5 year now.. its how i met Bill M. in the first place... All three AFBMs in the Pacific Northwest are worth attending but for different reasons... Vancouver BC has what has to be one of the nicest VENUES. Situated in a Botanical Garden, in late May, it is quite simply STUNNING.. The Bellevue show has the second nicest setting.. i know its only a college parking lot, but there are trees and bushes (read SHADE). It is held in "high summer"... sometimes too hot, but still a lovely experience... and the PORTLAND show .. the worst venue of them all, after all its just a Field... little shade, nothing to look at but the cars themselves-- but it is (i hear) the biggest all british event this side of chicago... its soooo big they have to have the swap meet on a seperate day, and the swap meet itself takes up nearly as much space as did the show!... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" They talk of my drinking but never of my thirst. From biffjones at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 17:10:51 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:10:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> <005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Here is a quick photo of the "Spridgets" window sticker. http://us.f13.yahoofs.com/bc/44402ec7m509d7a6b/bc/My+Photos/DSCF0478_edited.jpg?BCDsmhIBshG21Z0. Biff From p.herder at cox.net Tue Jul 22 17:28:00 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:28:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> <005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <48866D00.4010200@cox.net> *Not Found* The requested URL was not found on this server. Biff Jones wrote: > Here is a quick photo of the "Spridgets" window sticker. > http://us.f13.yahoofs.com/bc/44402ec7m509d7a6b/bc/My+Photos/DSCF0478_edited.jpg?BCDsmhIBshG21Z0. > > Biff From biffjones at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 17:43:18 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Spridgets sticker References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net><005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <48866D00.4010200@cox.net> Message-ID: <01d401c8ec54$b8932c40$2f01a8c0@dell1> All, Don't know whats changed with Yahoo but if you copy the url I posted and paste it in your address bar it works. Biff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Herder To: Biff Jones Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet Not Found The requested URL was not found on this server. Biff Jones wrote: Here is a quick photo of the "Spridgets" window sticker. http://us.f13.yahoofs.com/bc/44402ec7m509d7a6b/bc/My+Photos/DSCF0478_edited.j pg?BCDsmhIBshG21Z0. Biff From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 22 17:57:08 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:57:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Stickers. In-Reply-To: <1016738069.20080722155044@pacifier.com> References: , <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net>, <1016738069.20080722155044@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <48861164.24551.1E1E53C@dmg.bossig.com> Okay..... Okay.... stop twisting my arm... Make it two for me.... ;^)) On 22 Jul 2008 at 15:50, Bill L wrote: >> It seems that there is at least ONE person who wants some.. i >> would take a couple more myself, just because i only have ONE in >> reserve...... >> >> anyone else?... gotta make it worthwhile ! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 22 17:59:16 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:59:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004501c8ec56$f397bed0$01fea8c0@C600> Yes. Kate > Bill L wrote: > > Hello Timothy, > > > > i got the spridgets stickers a few years ago.. > > > > anyone know who did this?... time for more? > > > > > My Dad made them. > Do we need more? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 22 18:03:09 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:03:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> <005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <005101c8ec57$7e2716e0$01fea8c0@C600> > And just what is a Spridget sticker. > If you don't know, obviously you need some. Put him down for three, Frank. Kate From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jul 22 18:02:15 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:02:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [Spridgets sticker In-Reply-To: <01d401c8ec54$b8932c40$2f01a8c0@dell1> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu> <877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com> <48864E00.7040206@comcast.net> <005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <48866D00.4010200@cox.net> <01d401c8ec54$b8932c40$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <72s2g5$4lgo49@email.mtu.edu> Didn't work for me, but try this http://www.toad.net/~wizardz/listlogos.htm At 07:43 PM 7/22/2008, Biff Jones wrote: >All, > >Don't know whats changed with Yahoo but if you copy the url I posted and >paste it in your address bar it works. > >Biff Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From gmari2 at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 18:36:22 2008 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Sprite w 6ft trophy Message-ID: <16166502.1482221216773382304.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> Someone I know attended a show this past weekend in I think, Merchant, New Jersey. A big show with 800 cars. She said, "THe funniest site was this tiny Austin Healey with a 6 foot trophy in the seat." OK, who has a white probably a box sprite. Biff was this you? When I asked she said the car had wide white walls. Anyone on the list? George Marinos From biffjones at verizon.net Tue Jul 22 19:26:08 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:26:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II Message-ID: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Try this url for the window sticker http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/spridgets-window-sticker/ Biff From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 19:48:10 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:48:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head fixed but Message-ID: <48868DDA.8020805@comcast.net> Well my head had a recessed brass plug, this caused the gasket to blow. The machine shop replaced the plug and checked and skimmed my severely warped head. In all my years and all my Sprites, I never had a warped head. Maybe that time the water temp went up to 80 on the OIL gauge did it. But it's all fixed. EXCEPT my #2 cylinder low end miss is still there. Hexk, it ran better when it was water injected! The cap and wires are new, and I have spark right to the tip of the plug, I even changed the plug out just incase. Valves are set right, SU carb adjustment doesn't do squat. #1 is fine, 3 & 4 are fine, pull the wire off #2 and there is no difference. But raise the rpms to 1500 or so and it's fine. Just like when it was running with a blown head gasket. Compression is 175 psi. no coolant squirting out this time. Where is my miss coming from? There is no hole in the piston and the head just had a quicky decoke and valve lap because #2 had some water related mung under the valve. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 22 20:08:02 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:08:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head fixed but References: <48868DDA.8020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002901c8ec68$f0215790$6401a8c0@personal> What does the plug look like after running a bit under3K? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Head fixed but > Well my head had a recessed brass plug, this caused the gasket to blow. > The machine shop replaced the plug and checked and skimmed my severely > warped head. > In all my years and all my Sprites, I never had a warped head. Maybe > that time the water temp went up to 80 on the OIL gauge did it. But it's > all fixed. > EXCEPT my #2 cylinder low end miss is still there. Hexk, it ran better > when it was water injected! > The cap and wires are new, and I have spark right to the tip of the > plug, I even changed the plug out just incase. > Valves are set right, SU carb adjustment doesn't do squat. #1 is fine, 3 > & 4 are fine, pull the wire off #2 and there is no difference. > But raise the rpms to 1500 or so and it's fine. Just like when it was > running with a blown head gasket. > Compression is 175 psi. no coolant squirting out this time. > Where is my miss coming from? There is no hole in the piston and the > head just had a quicky decoke and valve lap because #2 had some water > related mung under the valve. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 22 20:09:26 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:09:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <003a01c8ec69$22114ee0$6401a8c0@personal> I like it, I would have one as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Biff Jones" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > Try this url for the window sticker > http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/spridgets-window-sticker/ > > Biff > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jul 22 20:10:31 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net><005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> <005101c8ec57$7e2716e0$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: <005201c8ec69$490b2ed0$6401a8c0@personal> Aye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet >> And just what is a Spridget sticker. >> > If you don't know, obviously you need some. Put him down for three, Frank. > > Kate > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 6:00 AM From barry.lacy at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 20:10:44 2008 From: barry.lacy at comcast.net (Barry Lacy) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:10:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <003a01c8ec69$22114ee0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <001001c8ec69$50f5b3e0$6401a8c0@TK421> I'll take a couple. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "Biff Jones" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II >I like it, I would have one as well. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Biff Jones" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:26 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > > >> Try this url for the window sticker >> http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/spridgets-window-sticker/ >> >> Biff >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.4/1566 - Release Date: 7/22/2008 > 6:00 AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as barry.lacy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 22 21:29:33 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:29:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <4886A59D.1030800@justbrits.com> I'll take 6 !! From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 22 20:33:16 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:33:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Head fixed but In-Reply-To: <48868DDA.8020805@comcast.net> References: <48868DDA.8020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <488635FC.28600.270D72A@dmg.bossig.com> Off the wall things to check..... carbon track inside the distributor cap at #2? bad contact in cap for #2? If it uses points' what is the points gap? slop in the distributor shaft? sticking valve stem - had this in one of my older possessions, was a SOB to find... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 22 21:39:15 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:39:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Spridgets sticker In-Reply-To: <01d401c8ec54$b8932c40$2f01a8c0@dell1> References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com><6t8mot$4cnl5h@email.mtu.edu><877436206.20080721204440@pacifier.com><48864E00.7040206@comcast.net><005401c8ec49$fae6b310$6401a8c0@personal> <01a801c8ec50$300434e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <48866D00.4010200@cox.net> <01d401c8ec54$b8932c40$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <4886A7E3.8000408@justbrits.com> <> Nothing Biff, EXCEPT the are STILL #2 when pulling B.S. stuff, but right behind aol and a step ahead of gmail when it comes to re-writing their software OUTSIDE of the Governing Rules (R.F.C.) for email clients/email servers. All you tightwads that just can't seem to use the FREE email addy that comes WITH your DSL/Cable 'package' OR get a FREE MSN/Hotmail account WILL (with NO warning) start to miss List Mails for a day or 7 and make MJB work is butt off 'trying' to 'correct' a problem he did NOT ask for. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 20:48:17 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:48:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Message-ID: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> Buster, and any California guys who can help Buster has a trailer, semi assembled that he can donate to the cause. If the trailer can get up to Glen's and the Sprite can get bolted or securely strapped to the trailer, this will make the long haul a little simpler. Nobody has to worry about a trailer or switching the Sprite from his to their trailer. Assuming a 2" ball and a flat 4 plug, it's just a matter of switching the trailer to the next tow vehicle. A hand shake and the car is eastbound. I know Glen wants it gone, I would like to see it start it's journey. I did not say anything to Father Jack about this yet. Also many people said they would donate $$ to the cause, this would be great. Money towards gas and/or parts for the project. If you have parts you want to donate, that will work too. I am set with good used parts, this Sprite does not need any metal, but It will get a 100% new brake system, New shox, and suspension bushings along with king pins. So if you have any brake rotors or a QSK-136 hanging around, I'll take it ;) I do have a running 1098 that is going in the car, Disc brakes, and I can make an interior for a few hundred bucks. I don't think the Bugeye has any seats, I only have 1 MKII seat which will work but another would help. Just Ed can set up a donation spot on his site for those who wish to give. IF Glen's car does not get a ride, I do have a really rough Bugeye but it has no bonnet, no floors, no sills, and serious body dents. Glen's car is less than the patch panels I would have to buy. Fr Jack will have a little money if he sells his 69 Midget, it's a nice car, fresh paint, no rust, could use a top and the seats are fair. It runs perfect. He did a number on the wheels, they really need to be repainted, they have chinese rusting trip rings on black 1st generation Rostyles. He wants around 4 grand, so he can finance his Bugeye project. Any takers? It's resale red ;) I mean Show winning red. He knows nothing about any donations or the CA rust free car that *might* get a lift across country. So let's get rolling, get the trailer assembled and up to Glen's. Who wants the first leg? Davis to..... -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 20:50:13 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:50:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: <4886A59D.1030800@justbrits.com> References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <4886A59D.1030800@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> Ed's Shop wrote: > I'll take 6 !! > _______________________________________________ > Everybody wants stickers, There are none as of yet. I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, when, and how much. This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. Yous guys will know as soon as I know. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 21:14:55 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:14:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> <4886A59D.1030800@justbrits.com> <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807222014rbec0b2egd83c18a504b962ff@mail.gmail.com> One small critique if I may ... My understanding is that the spridgets at autox.team.net email address is only usable by list members so it would, IMHO, be better to include a web site address where interested parties could find and join us. Unfortunately the only web address I find for this list ( http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets) is too cumbersome for a sticker, let alone for someone to remember from a quick sighting on the street. Perhaps it would be possible to get MJB to setup a page at an address easy to remember like www.team.net/spridgets that could be used instead. On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ed's Shop wrote: > > I'll take 6 !! > > _______________________________________________ > > > Everybody wants stickers, > There are none as of yet. > I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, when, and how much. > This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. > Yous guys will know as soon as I know. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 22 21:43:55 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:43:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> References: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3A916E06-97DF-449F-9A5F-893B24CDEB81@mac.com> I can go up to Busters and get the trailer on the road. Then take it up to Glen and help get the car attached and do the first relay. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 22, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Buster, and any California guys who can help > Buster has a trailer, semi assembled that he can donate to the cause. > If the trailer can get up to Glen's and the Sprite can get bolted or > securely strapped to the trailer, this will make the > long haul a little simpler. > Nobody has to worry about a trailer or switching the Sprite from > his to > their trailer. > Assuming a 2" ball and a flat 4 plug, it's just a matter of switching > the trailer to the next tow vehicle. > A hand shake and the car is eastbound. > I know Glen wants it gone, I would like to see it start it's journey. > I did not say anything to Father Jack about this yet. > Also many people said they would donate $$ to the cause, this would be > great. > Money towards gas and/or parts for the project. If you have parts you > want to donate, that will work too. > I am set with good used parts, this Sprite does not need any metal, > but > It will get a 100% new brake system, > New shox, and suspension bushings along with king pins. So if you have > any brake rotors or a QSK-136 hanging around, > I'll take it ;) > I do have a running 1098 that is going in the car, Disc brakes, and I > can make an interior for a few hundred bucks. > I don't think the Bugeye has any seats, I only have 1 MKII seat which > will work but another would help. > Just Ed can set up a donation spot on his site for those who wish > to give. > IF Glen's car does not get a ride, I do have a really rough Bugeye but > it has no bonnet, no floors, no sills, and serious body dents. > Glen's car is less than the patch panels I would have to buy. > Fr Jack will have a little money if he sells his 69 Midget, it's a > nice > car, fresh paint, no rust, could use a top and the seats are fair. It > runs perfect. He did a number on the wheels, they really need to be > repainted, they have chinese rusting trip rings on black 1st > generation > Rostyles. He wants around 4 grand, so he can finance his Bugeye > project. > Any takers? It's resale red ;) I mean Show winning red. He knows > nothing about any donations or the CA rust free car that *might* get a > lift across country. > So let's get rolling, get the trailer assembled and up to Glen's. Who > wants the first leg? Davis to..... > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 22:50:56 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:50:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0807222014rbec0b2egd83c18a504b962ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jethro (JFoster) wrote: "My understanding is that the spridgets at autox.team.net email address is only usable by list members so it would, IMHO, be better to include a web site address where interested parties could find and join us." I could not DISagree more! Some people do not truly understand how this group/e-mail address is totally different from any other Internet car list. I believe there is a unique friendship among everyone who subscribes to and participates in it. There is a camaraderie that is beyond any simple description. Just look at the current project, Frank Clarici's "Holy Sprite" effort on behalf of a retired man of the cloth! Look at how people are jumping in to participate in the joy of unselfish giving! It is taking place at *this* e-mail address. Before that, there was the Lake of the Ozarks celebration that brought together a mass gathering of Sprites and Midgets, again a spontaneous outgrowth of kicking around ideas with people at spridgets at autox.team.net. Before that it was Ron Soave's vision of the BusterCluster (for which I will be eternally grateful). These are to name but a few. Going further, there is an incredible amount of just plain "giving" or inexpensive selling of needed parts to keep these cars on the road. And think of all of the valuable advice sought and given, all revolving around spridgets at autox.team.net . Finally, just think where the original idea for this "sign" came from---yep, from spridgets at autox.team.net . No, Mark's spridgets at autox.team.net list long ago won its spurs and earned its rightful place at the most valuable part of the Internet for Sprite and Midget owners. Joining it is not such an onerous task that others cannot join, and obviously a lot easier than to ask Mark to set up another single-purpose address. My one regret is that more Sprite and Midget owners in the Mother Country of England have not discovered and joined our group. Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 22 22:58:19 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:58:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: Biff Jones wrote: "Try this url for the window sticker http://public.fotki.com/BiffJ/spridgets-window-sticker/" One of the biggest arguments against changing the "sign" is that many of us *already* proudly display the "original" (e.g. car shows). Why the need to change simply for the sake of change? Buster From grday at btinternet.com Wed Jul 23 01:23:35 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:23:35 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II References: <020d01c8ec63$16bb24e0$2f01a8c0@dell1><4886A59D.1030800@justbrits.com> <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> <8de85a9c0807222014rbec0b2egd83c18a504b962ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <70A2D2464A5D42AF87E9A52B433D9424@TAIRS> Try: http://tiny.cc/JYtta Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jethro (JFoster)" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Ed's Shop" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > One small critique if I may ... > > My understanding is that the spridgets at autox.team.net email address is > only > usable by list members so it would, IMHO, be better to include a web site > address where interested parties could find and join us. > > Unfortunately the only web address I find for this list ( > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets) is too cumbersome for a > sticker, let alone for someone to remember from a quick sighting on the > street. Perhaps it would be possible to get MJB to setup a page at an > address easy to remember like www.team.net/spridgets that could be used > instead. > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Frank Clarici > wrote: > >> Ed's Shop wrote: >> > I'll take 6 !! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > >> Everybody wants stickers, >> There are none as of yet. >> I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, when, and how much. >> This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. >> Yous guys will know as soon as I know. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 01:57:32 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:57:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Yellow Bugeye at Ozark 50th Celebration Message-ID: <43840a7e0807230057h15ea6d7cvfc75c16e05c5a502@mail.gmail.com> Lists... Got a request... Anybody know who had the yellow BE with the black racing stripes for sale in the hotel lot at Lake of the Ozarks? Cheers!! Jim ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: derbydave Date: Jul 22, 2008 8:36 PM Subject: Yellow Bugeye at Ozark Show To: Jim Johnson Jim, As you know I got to your show around noon on Saturday. Several of the guys I spoke to mentioned an individual at the show who had a Yellow Bug Eye for sale. After looking around they said he had already left. I think they said he was from Arkansas, and he told them he was going to list his car for sale on wirewheel.com. I've been checking wirewheel.com but to date no yellow bugeye for sale. Would you have any information on this individual, and are you able to share it. Thanks Jim.... Dave From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com Wed Jul 23 02:05:06 2008 From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:05:06 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Mini Scamp Message-ID: <00c201c8ec9a$d28e29b0$0202a8c0@desktop> It looks like it was an intersting project for running around a golf course, The guy had obviously mastered the sheet metal folder but not curves It needs round wheel arches 1 Alan From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 23 02:14:56 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:14:56 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Mini Scamp In-Reply-To: <00c201c8ec9a$d28e29b0$0202a8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <413615A2A1184FF38B4BFC6CE5A4BBEA@GuyLaptop> Somehow doesn't quite capture the style of the proper version, the Mini- Moke http://www.mokeclub.org/ Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Alan East-Jones Sent: 23 July 2008 09:05 To: autox spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Mini Scamp It looks like it was an intersting project for running around a golf course, The guy had obviously mastered the sheet metal folder but not curves It needs round wheel arches 1 Alan You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Wed Jul 23 03:14:17 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker In-Reply-To: <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <966339.92944.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'll take some too.. I am happy to send an SAE but i dont think the US postal service will recognise Australian stamps.. I could put some US$ in the envelope...but the way things are going , you might make a profit if i send Aussie$ instead. I would be happy to act as a distributor for stickers within australia, if no-one else, more deserving of such a privelige, were to volunteer. Andy ...I just realised I've been on this list for 10 years...less 2 or so that I lived in China. (what ever happened to Montana Bob...?) --- On Wed, 23/7/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > From: Frank Clarici > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > To: "Ed's Shop" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Received: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008, 12:50 PM > Ed's Shop wrote: > > I'll take 6 !! > > _______________________________________________ > > > Everybody wants stickers, > There are none as of yet. > I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, > when, and how much. > This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. > Yous guys will know as soon as I know. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Start at the new Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au From CAWS52803 at aol.com Wed Jul 23 04:32:56 2008 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:32:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II Message-ID: I would like to get 2. Let me know where to send the SASE. Thanks Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 06:46:26 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:46:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: References: <8de85a9c0807222014rbec0b2egd83c18a504b962ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I will say though, that I met many folks at LotO, that are on some group called the British Car Forum. There seemed to be quite a few of these "strangers" in attendance. Though I will concede that THIS list is a unique group of individuals, that have no equals, there ARE other large groups out there. They just ain't as good as we are...... lol On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:50 PM, B- Evans wrote: > Jethro (JFoster) wrote: "My understanding is that the > spridgets at autox.team.net email address is only usable by list members so > it > would, IMHO, be better to include a web site address where interested > parties could find and join us." > > > > I could not DISagree more! > > > > Some people do not truly understand how this group/e-mail address is > totally > different from any other Internet car list. I believe there is a unique > friendship among everyone who subscribes to and participates in it. There > is a camaraderie that is beyond any simple description. Just look at the > current project, Frank Clarici's "Holy Sprite" effort on behalf of a > retired > man of the cloth! Look at how people are jumping in to participate in the > joy of unselfish giving! It is taking place at *this* e-mail address. > Before that, there was the Lake of the Ozarks celebration that brought > together a mass gathering of Sprites and Midgets, again a spontaneous > outgrowth of kicking around ideas with people at spridgets at autox.team.net. > Before that it was Ron Soave's vision of the BusterCluster (for which I > will > be eternally grateful). These are to name but a few. > > > > Going further, there is an incredible amount of just plain "giving" or > inexpensive selling of needed parts to keep these cars on the road. And > think of all of the valuable advice sought and given, all revolving around > spridgets at autox.team.net . Finally, just think where the original idea > for > this "sign" came from---yep, from spridgets at autox.team.net . > > > > No, Mark's spridgets at autox.team.net list long ago won its spurs and earned > its rightful place at the most valuable part of the Internet for Sprite and > Midget owners. Joining it is not such an onerous task that others cannot > join, and obviously a lot easier than to ask Mark to set up another > single-purpose address. > > > > My one regret is that more Sprite and Midget owners in the Mother Country > of > England have not discovered and joined our group. > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 06:54:38 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:54:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker In-Reply-To: <966339.92944.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <48869C65.30000@comcast.net> <966339.92944.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, this list HAS had it's share of A-holes. I recall someone (who still may be lurking) trying to troll me into a negative discussion about Buster. In talking with Buster on the phone, never meeting him in person, I can see where one could develop such an attitude about him. We had Ed, until MJB kicked him off. I still think his spirit lingers from time to time. We had Montana Bob, we've had others I can't recall, due to their insignificance. The point is, this list, with all it's off topic banter, has a way of hitting the lever, to flush out the crap. We all have our faults, but for the most part, the fault we ALL share, is our insane desire to keep these little "Yugo's of Yesteryear" ON THE ROAD. Be it giving, or selling cheaply the parts, by whatever means necessary. I saw this at LotO, with Jim Johnson's Midget. It was started, and something else would break. The parts kept arriving, until it was running, and STAYED running. He even drove it in the skills tests and what not. NEVER was a bill or a fee brought up, other than a request for a cold adult beverage. So, how do we prepare anyone for a list such as this? I really don't think you can. Life has made us who we are, and if you don't fit, prepare to be flushed, cuz we got enough crap to deal with, with our little cars..... Brad (still clinging to the rim, but I lost a shoe dammit) Fornal On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Andy Webster wrote: > > ...I just realised I've been on this list for 10 years...less 2 or so that > I > lived in China. > > (what ever happened to Montana Bob...?) > > > > > --- On Wed, 23/7/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > From: Frank Clarici > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > > To: "Ed's Shop" > > Cc: "Spridgets" > > Received: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008, 12:50 PM > > Ed's Shop wrote: > > > I'll take 6 !! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Everybody wants stickers, > > There are none as of yet. > > I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, > > when, and how much. > > This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. > > Yous guys will know as soon as I know. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > Start at the new > Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 23 10:23:33 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:23:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> References: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> Message-ID: Buster and Glen, What dates or time frames will work for you? I have some constructions work that needs to be scheduled. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 22, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Buster, and any California guys who can help > Buster has a trailer, semi assembled that he can donate to the cause. > If the trailer can get up to Glen's and the Sprite can get bolted or > securely strapped to the trailer, this will make the > long haul a little simpler. > Nobody has to worry about a trailer or switching the Sprite from > his to > their trailer. > Assuming a 2" ball and a flat 4 plug, it's just a matter of switching > the trailer to the next tow vehicle. > A hand shake and the car is eastbound. > I know Glen wants it gone, I would like to see it start it's journey. > I did not say anything to Father Jack about this yet. > Also many people said they would donate $$ to the cause, this would be > great. > Money towards gas and/or parts for the project. If you have parts you > want to donate, that will work too. > I am set with good used parts, this Sprite does not need any metal, > but > It will get a 100% new brake system, > New shox, and suspension bushings along with king pins. So if you have > any brake rotors or a QSK-136 hanging around, > I'll take it ;) > I do have a running 1098 that is going in the car, Disc brakes, and I > can make an interior for a few hundred bucks. > I don't think the Bugeye has any seats, I only have 1 MKII seat which > will work but another would help. > Just Ed can set up a donation spot on his site for those who wish > to give. > IF Glen's car does not get a ride, I do have a really rough Bugeye but > it has no bonnet, no floors, no sills, and serious body dents. > Glen's car is less than the patch panels I would have to buy. > Fr Jack will have a little money if he sells his 69 Midget, it's a > nice > car, fresh paint, no rust, could use a top and the seats are fair. It > runs perfect. He did a number on the wheels, they really need to be > repainted, they have chinese rusting trip rings on black 1st > generation > Rostyles. He wants around 4 grand, so he can finance his Bugeye > project. > Any takers? It's resale red ;) I mean Show winning red. He knows > nothing about any donations or the CA rust free car that *might* get a > lift across country. > So let's get rolling, get the trailer assembled and up to Glen's. Who > wants the first leg? Davis to..... > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 23 11:01:42 2008 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:01:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet References: <329458876.20080721155340@pacifier.com> <1511354186.20080722155753@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2D095D2507384B90B1064C6039B74BC3@psych.washington.edu> Bill Susan and I have attended this show sporadically over the last 12 or so years. When I first met Susan she had '80 MGB that we would take to the Bellevue show and down to then SIR, now Pacific Raceway to watch the SOVREN races. She sold the MGB to her brother a few years ago, but we have picked up the current Midget project and have been back to the show last year and this year. She had a midget before the MGB and always wanted another one. So, how many here got into British cars because of their wives? Haven't been to the other two yet but a trip up to the Vancouver show and then on up the Sea to Sky Highway to Whistler might be fun in a Spridget. They should have the road work for the Olympics done by then. Rich Ball '76 midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Richard Ball" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet > Hello Richard, > > I've been attending this show for about 5 year now.. its how i met > Bill M. in the first place... > > All three AFBMs in the Pacific Northwest are worth attending but > for different reasons... > > Vancouver BC has what has to be one of the nicest VENUES. Situated > in a Botanical Garden, in late May, it is quite simply STUNNING.. > > The Bellevue show has the second nicest setting.. i know its only > a college parking lot, but there are trees and bushes (read > SHADE). It is held in "high summer"... sometimes too hot, but > still a lovely experience... > > and the PORTLAND show .. the worst venue of them all, after all > its just a Field... little shade, nothing to look at but the cars > themselves-- but it is (i hear) the biggest all british event this > side of chicago... its soooo big they have to have the swap meet > on a seperate day, and the swap meet itself takes up nearly as > much space as did the show!... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > They talk of my drinking but never of my thirst. From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 23 11:07:48 2008 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:07:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, Message-ID: I'm in for a couple. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 23 12:22:21 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:22:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker In-Reply-To: References: <48869C65.30000@comcast.net><966339.92944.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Isn't that where the cats and shotguns come in? The secret handshake? -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:55 AM To: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker ...So, how do we prepare anyone for a list such as this? I really don't think you can.... Brad (still clinging to the rim, but I lost a shoe dammit) Fornal On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Andy Webster wrote: > > ...I just realised I've been on this list for 10 years...less 2 or so that > I > lived in China. > > (what ever happened to Montana Bob...?) > > > > > --- On Wed, 23/7/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > From: Frank Clarici > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II > > To: "Ed's Shop" > > Cc: "Spridgets" > > Received: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008, 12:50 PM > > Ed's Shop wrote: > > > I'll take 6 !! > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Everybody wants stickers, > > There are none as of yet. > > I asked my Dad about them, I'll let the list know if, > > when, and how much. > > This time I may ask for SASEs to send them out. > > Yous guys will know as soon as I know. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > Start at the new > Yahoo!7 for a better online experience. www.yahoo7.com.au > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 23 12:25:43 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:25:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet Message-ID: <072320081825.24977.488777A7000D82D6000061912215567074000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> my wife came home from a trip to the grocery store last summer and said maybe we should look into getting a little convertible like an MG. we bought the 74 midget in october. we have been toying with the idea of getting her a t-shirt that reads "it's all my fault". -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Richard Ball" > Bill > > Susan and I have attended this show sporadically over the last 12 or so > years. When I first met Susan she had '80 MGB that we would take to the > Bellevue show and down to then SIR, now Pacific Raceway to watch the SOVREN > races. She sold the MGB to her brother a few years ago, but we have picked > up the current Midget project and have been back to the show last year and > this year. She had a midget before the MGB and always wanted another one. > So, how many here got into British cars because of their wives? > > Haven't been to the other two yet but a trip up to the Vancouver show and > then on up the Sea to Sky Highway to Whistler might be fun in a Spridget. > They should have the road work for the Olympics done by then. > > Rich Ball > '76 midget > Everett, Wa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > To: "Richard Ball" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:57 PM > Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet > > > > Hello Richard, > > > > I've been attending this show for about 5 year now.. its how i met > > Bill M. in the first place... > > > > All three AFBMs in the Pacific Northwest are worth attending but > > for different reasons... > > > > Vancouver BC has what has to be one of the nicest VENUES. Situated > > in a Botanical Garden, in late May, it is quite simply STUNNING.. > > > > The Bellevue show has the second nicest setting.. i know its only > > a college parking lot, but there are trees and bushes (read > > SHADE). It is held in "high summer"... sometimes too hot, but > > still a lovely experience... > > > > and the PORTLAND show .. the worst venue of them all, after all > > its just a Field... little shade, nothing to look at but the cars > > themselves-- but it is (i hear) the biggest all british event this > > side of chicago... its soooo big they have to have the swap meet > > on a seperate day, and the swap meet itself takes up nearly as > > much space as did the show!... > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > They talk of my drinking but never of my thirst. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 23 16:03:43 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:03:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Western Washington All British Field Meet In-Reply-To: <072320081825.24977.488777A7000D82D6000061912215567074000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: > my wife came home from a trip to the grocery store last summer and said maybe > we should look into getting a little convertible like an MG. She's a keeper. Get her whatever she wants. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 16:16:34 2008 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Problem Message-ID: <87918.23277.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I developed a clutch problem while at LOTO and am just now getting to the troubleshooting. The clutch does not disengage completely even when the pedal is pushed to the floor, causing the Bugeye to want to lurch forward when starting, grinding when shifting between gears, and not wanting to come out of gear. When the clutch pedal is pushed to the floor, there is no back pressure from the clutch springs - it is like mush pushing it to the floor. There are no leaks in the master or slave cylinders or lines or fittings, fluid level is being maintained, master cylinder rod is properly adjusted, and slave cylinder actuates when pedal is depressed. Clue: looking underneath the car, there appears to be too much play in the clutch withdrawl lever coming out of the transmission. When the clutch pedal is not pushed, I can push the withdrawl lever forward about 3/4 inches until the slave cylinder rod finally seats against the slave cylinder piston. It is as if the clutch springs are not pushing the withdrawl lever all the way back to where it is pressing the slave cylinder rod all the way back in. Thus when the slave cylinder extends when pushing the clutch pedal, there is too much free play and only in the last 1/4 inch or so is it compessing the clutch which is not enough to disengage it. I need a diagnosis. I hope I do not need a new clutch. Thanks. From bugi1960 at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 16:28:16 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:28:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tach cable thru firewall Message-ID: <31621FDC-E4F5-4B54-BF84-015BF5D843CA@gmail.com> On a bugeye where does the tach go thru the firewall? My hand drawn diagram shows behind the tach but I'm not sure. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From markwemple at yahoo.com Wed Jul 23 18:48:52 2008 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC RV and 914 FS Message-ID: <829233.4208.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey all, I have a class A 1988 Fleetwood Flair w/ Ford 460 and a 1970 Porsche 914/4 for sale. I'm asking 6k for the RV and 2.5K for the 914. I can tell you a lot about both but don't want to waste your time having to read a long laundry list so if you're interested or know of someone, please contact me. Mark 410-987-5833 Severna Park, MD (near Biff) From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 23 19:34:32 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:34:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <3A916E06-97DF-449F-9A5F-893B24CDEB81@mac.com> References: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net> <3A916E06-97DF-449F-9A5F-893B24CDEB81@mac.com> Message-ID: I have been talking with Buster and Glen about getting this trip started and it looks like we should be able to get going with in the next two weeks. Someone suggested a list of people/connections for the Holy Sprite road trip which I think is a good idea. Can some one set this up? My suggested starting point is: Contact name Contact phone number Location Can more the car to - - Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 23 19:37:48 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:37:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning - Virus going around Message-ID: It comes with a zip file that you should not open. -----Original Message----- From: United Parcel Service [mailto:mgvjedof at bourque-moreau.com] Sent: July 23, 2008 9:13 PM Subject: UPS Tracking Number 6405672051 Dangerous Attachment has been Removed. The file "" has been removed because of a virus. It was infected with the "W32/Agent.HFZ!phish" virus. File quarantined as: "". http://www.fortinet.com/ve?vid=517232 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jul 23 19:43:34 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:43:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning - Virus going around References: Message-ID: Subject: [Spridgets] Warning - Virus going around > It comes with a zip file that you should not open. > -----Original Message----- > From: United Parcel Service [mailto:mgvjedof at bourque-moreau.com] > Sent: July 23, 2008 9:13 PM > Subject: UPS Tracking Number 6405672051 Good thing they aren't even smart enough to make it look like an actual tracking number! I went to the UPS website but did not find anywhere to report these, although I am sure that they will soon be putting a significant effort into shutting these down. David Lieb From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jul 23 19:51:38 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:51:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tach cable thru firewall In-Reply-To: <31621FDC-E4F5-4B54-BF84-015BF5D843CA@gmail.com> References: <31621FDC-E4F5-4B54-BF84-015BF5D843CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c8ed2f$d0823860$7186a920$@net> http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/Cables_wires_lo2.htm A good place to see:) and if you need more pics I can take Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:28 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team. Net net Subject: [Spridgets] Tach cable thru firewall On a bugeye where does the tach go thru the firewall? My hand drawn diagram shows behind the tach but I'm not sure. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 6:55 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1568 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 6:55 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 23 19:57:13 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:57:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tach cable thru firewall In-Reply-To: <31621FDC-E4F5-4B54-BF84-015BF5D843CA@gmail.com> References: <31621FDC-E4F5-4B54-BF84-015BF5D843CA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4887E179.3020901@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > On a bugeye where does the tach go thru the firewall? My hand drawn > diagram shows behind the tach but I'm not sure. > on mine, it goes thru the firewall near the starter cable, a straight shot from the generator thru the firewall. Then is curves behind the dash to the tach. But I'm not sure mine is correct. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From stevenm at optonline.net Wed Jul 23 21:15:40 2008 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] My Midget in a photo shoot Message-ID: <006801c8ed3b$8ebe51f0$69c6fea9@1705n3> Last weekend, my Midget was used in a photo shoot in upstate NY. Take a look! http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photo_shoot/ From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jul 23 21:54:53 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:54:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Midget in a photo shoot References: <006801c8ed3b$8ebe51f0$69c6fea9@1705n3> Message-ID: <000b01c8ed41$07c02830$6401a8c0@personal> Darn shame you could not be there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Michelsen" To: ; "Midget Group at team.net" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: [Spridgets] My Midget in a photo shoot > Last weekend, my Midget was used in a photo shoot in upstate NY. Take a > look! > http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photo_shoot/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1569 - Release Date: 7/23/2008 1:31 PM From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 23:02:53 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:02:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Problem In-Reply-To: <87918.23277.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <87918.23277.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807232202i36266830t30f0ad62328f1fe2@mail.gmail.com> Hi Doug, I don't know a whole lot about BE clutches assuming you are running a 948 with smooth case, but it sounds to me as if you might have a bent clutch release fork... It happens... Cheers!! Jim On 7/23/08, Doug Altman wrote: > > I developed a clutch problem while at LOTO and am just now getting to the > troubleshooting. The clutch does not disengage completely even when the > pedal > is pushed to the floor, causing the Bugeye to want to lurch forward when > starting, grinding when shifting between gears, and not wanting to come out > of > gear. When the clutch pedal is pushed to the floor, there is no back > pressure > from the clutch springs - it is like mush pushing it to the floor. There > are > no leaks in the master or slave cylinders or lines or fittings, fluid level > is > being maintained, master cylinder rod is properly adjusted, and slave > cylinder > actuates when pedal is depressed. Clue: looking underneath the car, > there appears to be too much play in the clutch withdrawl lever coming out > of > the transmission. When the clutch pedal is not pushed, I can push the > withdrawl lever forward about 3/4 inches until the slave cylinder rod > finally > seats against the slave cylinder piston. > It is as if the clutch springs are not pushing the withdrawl lever all > the > way back to where it is pressing the slave cylinder rod all the way back > in. > Thus when the slave cylinder extends when pushing the clutch pedal, there > is > too much free play and only in the last 1/4 inch or so is it compessing > the clutch which is not enough to disengage it. I need a diagnosis. I > hope I > do not need a new clutch. Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 05:56:53 2008 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:56:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I would suggest that we define the projected route. For me, it all depends on whether, and where the package will be passing through, or near Ohio. --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Kitterer Bob wrote: From: Kitterer Bob Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:34 PM I have been talking with Buster and Glen about getting this trip started and it looks like we should be able to get going with in the next two weeks. Someone suggested a list of people/connections for the Holy Sprite road trip which I think is a good idea. Can some one set this up? My suggested starting point is: Contact name Contact phone number Location Can more the car to - - Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jul 24 08:31:51 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:31:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I will be moving the trailer from SoCa to the Sacramento area as early as this coming week. I could do a first leg to either NV or AZ which is sort of on the way back home or some one else can pick it up at Glens. I-80 to NV is the most direct eastern route and Jim Johnson has offered to get it from Denver to Kansas City. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:56 AM, John Kuzman wrote: > I would suggest that we define the projected route. For me, it all > depends on whether, and where the package will be passing through, > or near Ohio. > > --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Kitterer Bob wrote: > From: Kitterer Bob > Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:34 PM > > I have been talking with Buster and Glen about getting this trip > started and it looks like we should be able to get going with in the > next two weeks. > > Someone suggested a list of people/connections for the Holy Sprite > road trip which I think is a good idea. > > Can some one set this up? > > My suggested starting point is: > > Contact name > Contact phone number > Location > Can more the car to - - > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 09:20:46 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:20:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D7353CDBE0A49B9881F59B5220E6436@NilesAD.von.gov> Since it will be on a trailer and all, I will be able to move it at least partway through the Midwest. I am in the Chicago area, so if it is too far south, it might not make sense. If it is coming across I80, I could pick it up most anywhere in Iowa and haul it across to some place in Indiana or Ohio. My time is fairly flexible, so a day or two of notice should suffice. I would like to ask people to take some pictures en route to document the progress. Should make for a good page in the calendar. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 24 09:28:27 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:28:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> AAAARRRRGGGHHH! Bob is quick!! I'll borrow the trailer tomorrow and get the VIN issue dealt with by Sunday so I can get the papers to DMV on Monday morning. The first CHP I had wouldn't come to the house to do the inspection and sign-off (clearly not a car guy). There is a sub-station 10 miles away I can use. Its going to take an evening to age the replacement VIN appropriately. Now I'm excited!! A cool project gets under way, and I get to move the Morris frame from the backyard to the frontside where I can set the cab on it for the first time. Win-win!! I just got an e-mail from BMIHT asking for more info on the Morris, which is weird since I had less info on the Sprite and they came up with a complete build record in no time. Since the truck won't be going to Jersey or the Monterey Concourse, a perfect number isn't as important, but it would be nice. Glen >I will be moving the trailer from SoCa to the Sacramento area as > early as this coming week. I could do a first leg to either NV or AZ > which is sort of on the way back home or some one else can pick it up > at Glens. I-80 to NV is the most direct eastern route and Jim > Johnson has offered to get it from Denver to Kansas City. > > Bob Kitterer From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 24 09:44:40 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:44:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <3D7353CDBE0A49B9881F59B5220E6436@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Beginning pictures and handoff pictures would be nice ... We would get to see how 'bagged' the driver passing on the torch is. :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Lieb" Since it will be on a trailer and all, I will be able to move it at least partway through the Midwest. I am in the Chicago area, so if it is too far south, it might not make sense. If it is coming across I80, I could pick it up most anywhere in Iowa and haul it across to some place in Indiana or Ohio. My time is fairly flexible, so a day or two of notice should suffice. I would like to ask people to take some pictures en route to document the progress. Should make for a good page in the calendar. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 24 10:20:18 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonesin' for a Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807230057h15ea6d7cvfc75c16e05c5a502@mail.gmail.co m> References: <43840a7e0807230057h15ea6d7cvfc75c16e05c5a502@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724111003.039d92b0@nosimport.com> All y'all, I've been approached by a local in Madison, WI wanting (not needing) to sell his very nicely appointed Bugeye. His wife feels unsafe at any speed, and on the whole would rather have a grand piano. (serious) Briefly, resell red, 1275, disc brakes, wire wheels. Very similar to Nashville Mark's award winning BE at LoTO. Mark, need a pair? Email me for pics and fuller description. Peter C. From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jul 24 10:37:01 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: Message-ID: <002d01c8edab$80534330$8500a8c0@CT> In the event it ends up taking the southern route I can probably get it across Tennessee, Memphis to Bristol is about 500 miles on I40, since i live in the middle (Nashville) it might be a stretch but will give it a try if necessary. I know who to call for local help if necessary. Mark Nashville From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 24 10:38:50 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:38:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Message-ID: Sorry all, and especially Bob. I just got off the phone to the CHP and the soonest I could get an appointment is Aug 27th. The state has changed the way they allow "salvage" vehicles back on the road. ONLY a CHP can inspect, verify the numbers, and issue the tag needed by the DMV. The CHP I spoke to said this had caused a huge backlog. I booked the 27th appointment. Godd thing I called, as I was about to truck it over there Saturday morning and that wouldn't have gone well. There's no way I'll send this car on the road to Frank if he will have the slightest problem getting it licensed. Part of the deal is that it have nice, clean, legal paper. Hey, its going to a priest! So please hold off until after Aug. 27th so I can do this right. A few more costs to eat, but points-in-heaven can be cashed in later? Glen From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 24 10:55:16 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:55:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> Message-ID: There's a thought, Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for this sort of thing? Glen Byrns > Glen, > I should think a title could be arranged while it's travelling > through some state like Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas... you know, the more > legally liberal states. > Peter From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 11:02:48 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> > Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for > this sort of thing? I have heard rumors that it doesn't get any easier than Georgia... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 11:05:14 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> <63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <010101c8edaf$718265d0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Glen Byrns" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite > Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for > this sort of thing? I have heard rumors that it doesn't get any easier than Georgia... _______________________________________________ Ahh, I remember Georgia. Beautiful, long, flowing red hair.... From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jul 24 11:08:21 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:08:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jonesin' for a Bugeye? References: <43840a7e0807230057h15ea6d7cvfc75c16e05c5a502@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080724111003.039d92b0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <006001c8edaf$e1f88740$8500a8c0@CT> Peter, Strange the "y'all" coming from you! My wife felt the same way in the beginning so I bought her a helmet, sure better than a piano.... You may have noticed she was the only rider in the autocross! Now I can't leave home without her! Of course this is the "new" wife too. Love to have a pair (cars not wives), does he have pix? Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From: Peter C All y'all, I've been approached by a local in Madison, WI wanting (not needing) to sell his very nicely appointed Bugeye. His wife feels unsafe at any speed, and on the whole would rather have a grand piano. (serious) Briefly, resell red, 1275, disc brakes, wire wheels. Very similar to Nashville Mark's award winning BE at LoTO. Mark, need a pair? Email me for pics and fuller description. Peter C. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 11:16:27 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:16:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show Message-ID: <011001c8edb1$02967bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in Racine this Saturday? http://www.racinedowntown.com/microcar.html From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 11:21:51 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:21:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite In-Reply-To: <010101c8edaf$718265d0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> <63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> <010101c8edaf$718265d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <81855805-8EEF-4A1C-9C9E-19CF6735DBCD@comcast.net> ..and the man made accessories to "top it all off".. Lester On Jul 24, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Glen Byrns" ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:02 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite > > >> Anybody know something about other states on the way that are >> easier for >> this sort of thing? > > I have heard rumors that it doesn't get any easier than Georgia... > _______________________________________________ > > > > Ahh, I remember Georgia. Beautiful, long, flowing red hair.... From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jul 24 11:22:21 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:22:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com><63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> <010101c8edaf$718265d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <009c01c8edb1$d57136a0$8500a8c0@CT> Looks like this would work for a Tennessee title: http://www.tennessee.gov/revenue/forms/titlereg/certifownership.pdf Car needs to be at least 30 years old and a certification by the seller and buyer. From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 11:36:33 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807241036k19962d43na64a3fc7570b0b3c@mail.gmail.com> I was looking at a spitfire without a title, and called our DMV here in Arizona. They require a bonded title... 1) Bring/tow to DMV 2) They appraise value 3) Purchase bonded title based on appraised value: can't remember cost, want to say it was percentage of appraised value. 4) After a period of time, if no claims, you get clear title. Want to say it was 2 years. Moral of the Story: probably not worth a stop in AZ. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > There's a thought, > > Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for > this sort of thing? > > Glen Byrns > >> Glen, >> I should think a title could be arranged while it's travelling >> through some state like Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas... you know, the more >> legally liberal states. >> Peter > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 11:39:34 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:39:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite In-Reply-To: <63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> <63BF71DF18A04A999F41EDD021A36836@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for > this sort of thing? > > I have heard rumors that it doesn't get any easier than Georgia... > I bought a Midget from a guy in Georgia some years ago. They don't title cars older than 10 years I believe. I just got a notarized bill of saie and I got my Ohio title without any hassle. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From leavcast at infomagic.net Thu Jul 24 11:55:56 2008 From: leavcast at infomagic.net (George) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:55:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <48869BF1.9030605@comcast.net><3A916E06-97DF-449F-9A5F-893B24CDEB81@mac.com> Message-ID: If it goes south: George Castleberry 928-607-8947 Flagstaff, AZ Can move to Albuquerque 59 BE 54 100 73 GMC motorhome ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:34 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections > I have been talking with Buster and Glen about getting this trip > started and it looks like we should be able to get going with in the > next two weeks. > > Someone suggested a list of people/connections for the Holy Sprite > road trip which I think is a good idea. > > Can some one set this up? > > My suggested starting point is: > > Contact name > Contact phone number > Location > Can more the car to - - > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 24 12:05:29 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:05:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip, Message-ID: <488861F9.19768.DD4042@dmg.bossig.com> Has the "Road Trip Gas Fund" been set up yet?? I'm on SS but I can spare a bit for this event ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 12:41:47 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:41:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <011001c8edb1$02967bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <66E4B94B19154ABEB48C06867BDA22C3@NilesAD.von.gov> > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in Racine this > Saturday? I didnt know that I was, but I do not see how I can resist ;-) Details? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jul 24 13:13:00 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:13:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <011001c8edb1$02967bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <072420081913.11692.4888D43C000A267500002DAC22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Possibly but first I would need to become microdog. -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" : -------------- > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in Racine this > Saturday? > > http://www.racinedowntown.com/microcar.html From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 13:25:06 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <072420081913.11692.4888D43C000A267500002DAC22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry, I have heard it is a great meet with some unusual cars. The Sprite/Midget/Morris/Austin fits right in with the micro cars. Vigil So Cal --- On Thu, 7/24/08, tinydog at snet.net wrote: From: tinydog at snet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show To: "Spridgets List" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:13 PM tinydog sez: Possibly but first I would need to become microdog. -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" : -------------- > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in Racine this > Saturday? > > http://www.racinedowntown.com/microcar.html You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From markwemple at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 13:34:31 2008 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Re RV and 914 FS Message-ID: <348710.63612.qm@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As an aside, guys, I'd belwilling to trade, full or partial, for a pick-up on the RV. Heck, bring your pick-up and some cash and drive home and RV towing a 914! Mark From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 13:39:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:39:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2F68C03A605E47F9B23C10BD62D0D4B6@NilesAD.von.gov> > I have heard it is a great meet with some unusual cars. > The Sprite/Midget/Morris/Austin fits right in with the micro cars. BTW, I talked to one of the organizers and they do not consider Spridgets to be microcars (although they will have Smart (stupid) cars there. Go figure. On their website, however, the Austin-Healey Sprite is listed as a microcar (their criteria are under 11', under 1000cc, and 3 or 4 wheels), although no MGs are listed. Monument Square appears to be between 5th and 6th streets on S Main St. david Lieb From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jul 24 13:49:26 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:49:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> Take a breath. Just got off the phone with the contractor doing my patio and they will start work on Monday so my opening for next week has been closed. That also means that the rest of Aug. is now open. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > AAAARRRRGGGHHH! > > Bob is quick!! I'll borrow the trailer tomorrow and get the VIN > issue dealt with by Sunday so I can get the papers to DMV on Monday > morning. The first CHP I had wouldn't come to the house to do the > inspection and sign-off (clearly not a car guy). There is a sub- > station 10 miles away I can use. Its going to take an evening to > age the replacement VIN appropriately. > Now I'm excited!! A cool project gets under way, and I get to move > the Morris frame from the backyard to the frontside where I can set > the cab on it for the first time. Win-win!! > > I just got an e-mail from BMIHT asking for more info on the > Morris, which is weird since I had less info on the Sprite and > they came up with a complete build record in no time. Since the > truck won't be going to Jersey or the Monterey Concourse, a perfect > number isn't as important, but it would be nice. > > Glen > > > > >> I will be moving the trailer from SoCa to the Sacramento area as >> early as this coming week. I could do a first leg to either NV or AZ >> which is sort of on the way back home or some one else can pick it up >> at Glens. I-80 to NV is the most direct eastern route and Jim >> Johnson has offered to get it from Denver to Kansas City. >> >> Bob Kitterer From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jul 24 14:19:03 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> Message-ID: I have started a list of who has offered to move the Holy Sprite from where to where. I know a number of folks made offers that I dumped, lost or other wise misplaced so if you can tow the trailer let me know off list. From there I will see if we have a complete or almost complete route. I have the offers from, Crash, Jim Johnson, John Kuzman, David Lieb, Mark and George C. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From cbaustin at verizon.net Thu Jul 24 14:40:43 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:40:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> Message-ID: <014a01c8edcd$8b4b36e0$6401a8c0@universal1> This might have been brought up - if so, I apologize. If 'the road to resurrection' will be delayed until mid- late- August, Frank has a chance to get a 'want-list' together so that parts/pieces could be contributed along the way (free shipping). Should we ask PPP to set up a parts fund for donations for those parts that will absolutely have to be purchased? Regards, CB From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 14:48:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:48:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com><4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <014a01c8edcd$8b4b36e0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: > Should we ask PPP to set up a parts fund for donations for those parts > that will absolutely have to be purchased? I suppose this would be a Sprite Registry like the bridal registries we have all thankfully forgotten? Frank sets up a wish list with PPP and we all get to go shopping? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 15:20:19 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:20:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <011001c8edb1$02967bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> <66E4B94B19154ABEB48C06867BDA22C3@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <014b01c8edd3$13f36620$6401a8c0@Larry> All I know is what I see on the website, David. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in Racine this > Saturday? I didnt know that I was, but I do not see how I can resist ;-) Details? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 15:23:28 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:23:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2F68C03A605E47F9B23C10BD62D0D4B6@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <016601c8edd3$8497c380$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show > I have heard it is a great meet with some unusual cars. > The Sprite/Midget/Morris/Austin fits right in with the micro cars. BTW, I talked to one of the organizers and they do not consider Spridgets to be microcars (although they will have Smart (stupid) cars there. Go figure. On their website, however, the Austin-Healey Sprite is listed as a microcar (their criteria are under 11', under 1000cc, and 3 or 4 wheels), although no MGs are listed. Monument Square appears to be between 5th and 6th streets on S Main St. david Lieb _______________________________________________ Peter C's Mini would certainly qualify. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 15:29:45 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2F68C03A605E47F9B23C10BD62D0D4B6@NilesAD.von.gov> <016601c8edd3$8497c380$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: > Peter C's Mini would certainly qualify. Oh, what engine does he have in there? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 15:34:53 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:34:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2F68C03A605E47F9B23C10BD62D0D4B6@NilesAD.von.gov> <016601c8edd3$8497c380$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <018f01c8edd5$1cf0f6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Just one of those dinky little A-series motors. ;-))) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show > Peter C's Mini would certainly qualify. Oh, what engine does he have in there? From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 24 15:53:53 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:53:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <018f01c8edd5$1cf0f6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <486902.84256.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2F68C03A605E47F9B23C10BD62D0D4B6@NilesAD.von.gov> <016601c8edd3$8497c380$6401a8c0@Larry> <018f01c8edd5$1cf0f6f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724164952.03c05848@nosimport.com> Nope DQ'd by 380cc's. BUT, the guy that I bought it from should be there in a powder blue 2CV I have a set of 3 pistons for a Deke I should take..... Peter C At 04:34 PM 7/24/2008, Larry Daniels wrote: >Just one of those dinky little A-series motors. ;-))) > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Lieb" >To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridget List" > >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:29 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show > > > > Peter C's Mini would certainly qualify. > >Oh, what engine does he have in there? From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 16:06:11 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:06:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Assistance with Flagstaff to Phoenix car transport / car check Message-ID: <28f529ba0807241506m57cc2095me2b6f666c9fa797f@mail.gmail.com> I've got my eye on a early 60's spitfire that's for sale. If anyone's willing, interested in the following. I'm in Gilbert AZ, the car's in Flagstaff AZ 1) Pre-purchase inspection in Flag (even just a lot of pictures) 2) I have access to a Tahoe to pull it, but no suitable trailer, so if you: a) have trailer room on a trip from Flag to Phx b) have a "borrowable" trailer for a fee/deposit c) have some other economical idea for transport, would love to hear from you I'm tentatively scheduled to go see/purchase it on Aug 1st. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks, Mike From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 16:41:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <011001c8edb1$02967bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <753267.9099.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in > Racine this > Saturday? If all goes wrong, I'll be there. (I'll be E-lsewhere if it goes right, Peter). Porasik is down in FL this week plotting for the Road America ELVF race. Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 24 17:46:24 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:46:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <753267.9099.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01ae01c8ede7$7c5606a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Well, what say tomorrow night we plan a meet-up for all who are going. See the show, do lunch and then go on your merry way. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Jeff Porasik" ; "Spridgets List" ; "Larry Daniels" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > Any WI / IL people plan on going to the microcar show in > Racine this > Saturday? If all goes wrong, I'll be there. (I'll be E-lsewhere if it goes right, Peter). Porasik is down in FL this week plotting for the Road America ELVF race. Ron From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 18:16:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:16:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <753267.9099.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <01ae01c8ede7$7c5606a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <9A19C63424024FB4899617E49F863D3D@midget> > Well, what say tomorrow night we plan a meet-up for all who are going. > See the show, do lunch and then go on your merry way. Sounds good to me. Trish and I are tentatively planning to drive up in the Bugeye. David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jul 24 18:24:34 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:24:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts? Swap meet Message-ID: <1464409309.20080724172434@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Someone on the list e-mailed me to be on the lookout at the swap meet for some parts?... they gave the Victoria British number but i don't have a VB catalogue to reference at the moment.. i can't remember the part names OR the name of the party who wished that i keep my eyes open....... ???? ???? ??????? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "I deny everything," said Tom knowingly. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 24 18:37:29 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts? Swap meet References: <1464409309.20080724172434@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <58126694D8FE42619045C74A9920BD3E@midget> > Someone on the list e-mailed me to be on the lookout at the swap > meet for some parts?... they gave the Victoria British number but i > don't have a VB catalogue to reference at the moment.. i can't > remember the part names OR the name of the party who wished that i > keep my eyes open....... Bill, VB has belatedly put their catalog online. look it up there. Can't help you with the name. DL From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Thu Jul 24 19:05:06 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:05:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts? Swap meet In-Reply-To: <1464409309.20080724172434@pacifier.com> References: <1464409309.20080724172434@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807241805q533659fckb530bb182eb7fee0@mail.gmail.com> alternately, if you can't find it online, tell me the part number, i've got a few catalogs around and will take a look. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > Someone on the list e-mailed me to be on the lookout at the swap > meet for some parts?... they gave the Victoria British number but i > don't have a VB catalogue to reference at the moment.. i can't > remember the part names OR the name of the party who wished that i > keep my eyes open....... > > ???? ???? ??????? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > * "I deny everything," said Tom knowingly. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 19:07:22 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> Message-ID: <468643.95643.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Glen, The local police can do the Vin check. You have to get the form from the DMV. My FV police department sends out the parking control guy to fill out the form. As long as it is certified by the police it does not matter what department. Unless things have changed in the last few years. Vigil --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Kitterer Bob wrote: From: Kitterer Bob Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:49 PM Take a breath. Just got off the phone with the contractor doing my patio and they will start work on Monday so my opening for next week has been closed. That also means that the rest of Aug. is now open. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > AAAARRRRGGGHHH! > > Bob is quick!! I'll borrow the trailer tomorrow and get the VIN > issue dealt with by Sunday so I can get the papers to DMV on Monday > morning. The first CHP I had wouldn't come to the house to do the > inspection and sign-off (clearly not a car guy). There is a sub- > station 10 miles away I can use. Its going to take an evening to > age the replacement VIN appropriately. > Now I'm excited!! A cool project gets under way, and I get to move > the Morris frame from the backyard to the frontside where I can set > the cab on it for the first time. Win-win!! > > I just got an e-mail from BMIHT asking for more info on the > Morris, which is weird since I had less info on the Sprite and > they came up with a complete build record in no time. Since the > truck won't be going to Jersey or the Monterey Concourse, a perfect > number isn't as important, but it would be nice. > > Glen > > > > >> I will be moving the trailer from SoCa to the Sacramento area as >> early as this coming week. I could do a first leg to either NV or AZ >> which is sort of on the way back home or some one else can pick it up >> at Glens. I-80 to NV is the most direct eastern route and Jim >> Johnson has offered to get it from Denver to Kansas City. >> >> Bob Kitterer You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From p.herder at cox.net Thu Jul 24 19:10:56 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:10:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts? Swap meet In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0807241805q533659fckb530bb182eb7fee0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1464409309.20080724172434@pacifier.com> <28f529ba0807241805q533659fckb530bb182eb7fee0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48892820.9030701@cox.net> http://www.victoriabritish.com/ Mike Vasquez wrote: > alternately, if you can't find it online, tell me the part number, > i've got a few catalogs around and will take a look. > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:24 PM, Bill L wrote: > >> Hello Spridgets, >> >> Someone on the list e-mailed me to be on the lookout at the swap >> meet for some parts?... they gave the Victoria British number but i >> don't have a VB catalogue to reference at the moment.. i can't >> remember the part names OR the name of the party who wished that i >> keep my eyes open....... >> >> ???? ???? ??????? >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >> >> * "I deny everything," said Tom knowingly. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 19:27:51 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <016601c8edd3$8497c380$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <886550.67445.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 1000cc - That is what they wanted from the Microcar club when i did there national event. I said - OK. I did have sprites/Midgets as they fit undar (kinda). There was other cars that did not fit there requirements. Because the club would not provide a trophy for these cars. I did not charge them to show there cars. Metropolitans were not allowed. I had 13 at the show. There was as much interest in the cars that did not pay as the ones who did. I think it makes for more fun and a better show for every one to allow cars up to 1500cc motors. How can you say No on a car that fits there requirements? That is dumb. Vigil --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Larry Daniels wrote: From: Larry Daniels Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show To: "David Lieb" , "Spridget List" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:23 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show > I have heard it is a great meet with some unusual cars. > The Sprite/Midget/Morris/Austin fits right in with the micro cars. BTW, I talked to one of the organizers and they do not consider Spridgets to be microcars (although they will have Smart (stupid) cars there. Go figure. On their website, however, the Austin-Healey Sprite is listed as a microcar (their criteria are under 11', under 1000cc, and 3 or 4 wheels), although no MGs are listed. Monument Square appears to be between 5th and 6th streets on S Main St. david Lieb _______________________________________________ Peter C's Mini would certainly qualify. You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 19:50:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:50:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48893174.4000603@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > There's no way I'll send this car on the road to Frank if he will have the > slightest problem getting it licensed. In NJ even a priest with all the proper papers but no title can NOT title a car. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 19:53:26 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:53:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080724114233.03a3a910@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <48893216.1020200@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > There's a thought, > > Anybody know something about other states on the way that are easier for > this sort of thing? > > > Or does anybody have a title for a 58-61 Sprite? One that they junked the car but kept the title. Chassis IDs are a piece of cake ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 19:49:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <886550.67445.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <708287.97161.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/24/08, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > makes for more fun and a better show for every one to allow > cars up to 1500cc You'll have thousands of Ford Festivas. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 19:59:09 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:59:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, Message-ID: <072520080159.14941.4889336D00051E1300003A5D22165662769B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> frank, Add me to the list for two. ryan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Richard Ball" > I'm in for a couple. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 20:11:10 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:11:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations Message-ID: <4889363E.9060604@comcast.net> Everybody ED has agreed to set up a collection point for any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite. Be it gas money for the tow vehicles or money for parts to restore it, please see what Ed will be setting up in the very near future. I assume he can take cash, checks, money orders, credit cards, and Paypal. If anybody wants to donate parts, please wait until I get the car. If anybody is on the Yahoo lists, could you forward this to those lists. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 20:09:39 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <4889363E.9060604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <687617.79623.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Only if it becomes Glen's name - "Holy Spirite". Juat kidding, but the Spirite part IS good... --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > From: Frank Clarici > Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations > To: "Spridgets" , "Ed's Shop" > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 9:11 PM > Everybody > > ED has agreed to set up a > collection point for > any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite. > Be it gas money for the tow vehicles or money for parts to > restore it, > please see what Ed will be setting up in the very near > future. > I assume he can take cash, checks, money orders, credit > cards, and Paypal. > If anybody wants to donate parts, please wait until I get > the car. > If anybody is on the Yahoo lists, could you forward this to > those lists. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jul 24 21:41:24 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:41:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <4889363E.9060604@comcast.net> References: <4889363E.9060604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48894B64.9070101@justbrits.com> < has agreed to set up a collection point for any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite.>> I TOLD Frank (on the 19th) AND requested that he post the following: YOU 'announce' it AND put on BCF (and ask Brad to forward to m-s at yahoo and Jack L. to forward to Bugeye at yahoo). I am admending the above as I am on all three (3) Lists. But Jack or Frank, please take care of BCF because I don't go there much any more since 'the change/update'. (sucks) Make checks payable to " Just Brits " and ask that donor make POSITIVE to put "Jack Shit Fund" in the Notation line. Make it "Holy Sprite". It would be next to insane to 'point' donations (other than just general expenses) to 'parts', 'gas', etc.. I will maintain a Excel or FileMaker Pro data base with ALL the info. If I get a chance, I'll ask my bank about a new acct but they where just bought out by one of the Big Boys and I doubt they will be willing to help!! I did check w/'new' bank and they would do so for $10,000.00 minimum dollars deposit to START with (I laughed). Guess that means they are no longer a 'your community bank'!! Ed All mailing info at: www.justbrits.com PS: And running off wid da funds is OUT of question 'cause BESIDES a 'Padre', there IS some crazed Wop wid a nailgun I NEVER want mad at me running around da Joisey shores!!! AND he KNOWS (or Larry's GPS does) where I live!!!! From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 24 21:00:30 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:00:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] My theory on my low end miss Message-ID: <488941CE.20900@comcast.net> After my head gasket replacement, I still had a low speed miss on #2, the cyl where the head gasket blew. Peter emailed me with a wild idea, Put in a 180 out dizzy and wire the plugs to suit. I did and managed to move the miss to #3 cyl. WTF? I had the miss with 2 different distributors, 2 different caps and wire sets. One wire set was brand new just before the trip to MO. Both wire sets were firing fine, strong blue spark at #2. Now that I moved the sequence around, the miss moved. How can this be? Tonight I put on a used dizzy cap with some old wires, no more miss. My theory is that the spark, not firing in the water soaked cylinder, somehow backed up and semi self destructed the wire and/or dizzy cap. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Maybe an electrical engineer or a rocket scientist on this list can explain this one. BTW, the working cap and wires is one of those original 90* copper end jobs like from the factory. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 24 21:15:56 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:15:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My theory on my low end miss References: <488941CE.20900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003a01c8ee04$c16bda90$6401a8c0@personal> I vote for a bad dizzy cap. Just happened at the same time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] My theory on my low end miss > After my head gasket replacement, I still had a low speed miss on #2, > the cyl where the head gasket blew. > Peter emailed me with a wild idea, Put in a 180 out dizzy and wire the > plugs to suit. > I did and managed to move the miss to #3 cyl. > WTF? I had the miss with 2 different distributors, 2 different caps and > wire sets. > One wire set was brand new just before the trip to MO. > Both wire sets were firing fine, strong blue spark at #2. > Now that I moved the sequence around, the miss moved. How can this be? > Tonight I put on a used dizzy cap with some old wires, no more miss. > My theory is that the spark, not firing in the water soaked cylinder, > somehow backed up > and semi self destructed the wire and/or dizzy cap. > That's my story and I'm sticking to it! > Maybe an electrical engineer or a rocket scientist on this list can > explain this one. > BTW, the working cap and wires is one of those original 90* copper end > jobs like from the factory. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1570 - Release Date: 7/24/2008 6:59 AM From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jul 24 21:18:02 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:18:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations References: <4889363E.9060604@comcast.net> <48894B64.9070101@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <004401c8ee05$0c7795b0$6401a8c0@personal> Frank is on the forum, I think he should take care of it with one posting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: ; "Spridgets" ; Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations > < has agreed to set up a collection point for > any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite.>> > I TOLD Frank (on the 19th) AND requested that he post the following: > > > YOU 'announce' it AND put on BCF (and ask Brad to forward to m-s at > yahoo and Jack L. to forward to Bugeye at yahoo). > > > I am admending the above as I am on all three (3) Lists. But Jack or > Frank, please take care of BCF because I don't go there much any more > since 'the change/update'. (sucks) > > > Make checks payable to " Just Brits " and ask that donor make POSITIVE > to put "Jack Shit Fund" in the Notation line. > > Make it "Holy Sprite". It would be next to insane to 'point' > donations (other than just general expenses) to 'parts', 'gas', etc.. > > I will maintain a Excel or FileMaker Pro data base with ALL the info. > If I get a chance, I'll ask my bank about a new acct but they where > just bought out by one of the Big Boys and I doubt they will be > willing to help!! > > > I did check w/'new' bank and they would do so for $10,000.00 minimum > dollars deposit > to START with (I laughed). Guess that means they are no longer a > 'your community bank'!! > Ed > All mailing info at: www.justbrits.com > PS: And running off wid da funds is OUT of question 'cause BESIDES a > 'Padre', there IS some crazed Wop wid a nailgun I NEVER want mad at me > running around da Joisey shores!!! > AND he KNOWS (or Larry's GPS does) where I live!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1570 - Release Date: 7/24/2008 6:59 AM From kevin at valentinephoto.net Thu Jul 24 21:32:18 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:32:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> Message-ID: <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> Bob, I can move it from Central Pennsylvania to Frank's in Tom's River. Kevin V. On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > I have started a list of who has offered to move the Holy Sprite from > where to where. I know a number of folks made offers that I dumped, > lost or other wise misplaced so if you can tow the trailer let me > know off list. From there I will see if we have a complete or almost > complete route. > > I have the offers from, Crash, Jim Johnson, John Kuzman, David Lieb, > Mark and George C. > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevin at valentinephoto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 24 22:24:07 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <48894B64.9070101@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <900418.13434.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had to drink a few beers to translate from Edglish, but I think I understand that. --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ed's Shop wrote: > From: Ed's Shop > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations > To: "bugeye at yahoogroups.com" , "Spridgets" , midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:41 PM > < has agreed to set up > a collection point for > any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite.>> > I TOLD Frank (on the 19th) AND requested that he post > the following: > > > YOU 'announce' it AND put on BCF (and ask > Brad to forward to m-s at > yahoo and Jack L. to forward to Bugeye at yahoo). > > > I am admending the above as I am on all three (3) > Lists. But Jack or > Frank, please take care of BCF because I don't go > there much any more > since 'the change/update'. (sucks) > > > Make checks payable to " Just Brits " and ask > that donor make POSITIVE > to put "Jack Shit Fund" in the Notation line. > > Make it "Holy Sprite". It would be > next to insane to 'point' > donations (other than just general expenses) to > 'parts', 'gas', etc.. > > I will maintain a Excel or FileMaker Pro data base with > ALL the info. > If I get a chance, I'll ask my bank about a new > acct but they where > just bought out by one of the Big Boys and I > doubt they will be > willing to help!! > > > I did check w/'new' bank and they would do so > for $10,000.00 minimum > dollars deposit > to START with (I laughed). Guess that means they > are no longer a > 'your community bank'!! > Ed > All mailing info at: www.justbrits.com > PS: And running off wid da funds is OUT of question > 'cause BESIDES a > 'Padre', there IS some crazed Wop wid a nailgun > I NEVER want mad at me > running around da Joisey shores!!! > AND he KNOWS (or Larry's GPS does) where I live!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 24 22:27:59 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Holy Sprite... Message-ID: <4888F3DF.25630.3172A64@dmg.bossig.com> a.k.a. "The Blessed Bug"?? Frank, If you want.. I can donate an "as new" used Haynes Manual for you to put in the Boot... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jul 24 22:34:51 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:34:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... Message-ID: <4888F57B.22292.31D7441@dmg.bossig.com> I'd like to put the frongt of the Sprite up on ramps while working on it. Looking around at places like HF, Shucks, NAPA, etc... I've only found ramps that have a flat top. IIRC ramps used to have a sort of 'dip' in them to hold the wheel in place. Don't they make them that way any more?? I don't fel confident that flat top ramps would help hold the car in place.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jul 25 00:31:04 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:31:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update Message-ID: <008c01c8ee20$03ced570$6600a8c0@dave> Almost from the start, State Farm wanted to total my Midget for two crunched front fenders, a bashed grill, poked front valence panel, and the small bits associated with what to me seems a very minor fender bender. Talk about a racket. Anyway, I've been insisting over the course of three weeks that I would not accept any settlement that meant that my car was totalled. Finally, they decided to hire an independent firm to appraise my car. The first appraiser didn't seem to have a clue, he was more of a muscle car guy, but after about 15 minutes it dawned on me that I had pre-accident pictures posted on the web, so I emailed him the link. Once he saw the pictures, he started to get it. The next day, his boss called me who was very well qualified on british cars, and asked me very specific questions about my car that only someone who had owned an MG would know. Well, today I got a call from State Farm, and the car will NOT be totalled, and on top of that, the appraisal came in at $14,500! So here is my plan as of now. 1. remove dented parts and assess if they can be repaired. 2. get the car to the body shop to have the frame rails straightend and the front end aligned. >From there, I am fairly sure I am going to need a driver's side fender for a 70-74. I noticed that Victoria British Fenders do not have the holes drilled for the side marker lights. That would save me the labor for welding and filling those holes back up. The fenders from Moss seem to have the holes drilled. I could go with a good used fender too, if I can find one in good shape. I would consider replacing the fenders with fiberglass ones, but all the ones I've found are flared. The front valence I will have to assess. If I can get by with just replacing the front panel, I'd like to use one from a 1500 midget that has the extra cutouts. If I have to replace the whole assembly, I can't go that way because the heater air duct is on the wrong side. Anyway, there is some wind back in my sails, so to speak. David Riker From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 02:48:18 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <900418.13434.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <710370.1298.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I know there is a official why to do this. Maybe ED should ask Peter who set up the donations fro Paul A what the rules are for donation accounts. It may come back and bite him if it is not done correct. Just trying to look out for ED for being so nice to help. Vigil --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 9:24 PM I had to drink a few beers to translate from Edglish, but I think I understand that. --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ed's Shop wrote: > From: Ed's Shop > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations > To: "bugeye at yahoogroups.com" , "Spridgets" , midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:41 PM > < has agreed to set up > a collection point for > any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite.>> > I TOLD Frank (on the 19th) AND requested that he post > the following: > > > YOU 'announce' it AND put on BCF (and ask > Brad to forward to m-s at > yahoo and Jack L. to forward to Bugeye at yahoo). > > > I am admending the above as I am on all three (3) > Lists. But Jack or > Frank, please take care of BCF because I don't go > there much any more > since 'the change/update'. (sucks) > > > Make checks payable to " Just Brits " and ask > that donor make POSITIVE > to put "Jack Shit Fund" in the Notation line. > > Make it "Holy Sprite". It would be > next to insane to 'point' > donations (other than just general expenses) to > 'parts', 'gas', etc.. > > I will maintain a Excel or FileMaker Pro data base with > ALL the info. > If I get a chance, I'll ask my bank about a new > acct but they where > just bought out by one of the Big Boys and I > doubt they will be > willing to help!! > > > I did check w/'new' bank and they would do so > for $10,000.00 minimum > dollars deposit > to START with (I laughed). Guess that means they > are no longer a > 'your community bank'!! > Ed > All mailing info at: www.justbrits.com > PS: And running off wid da funds is OUT of question > 'cause BESIDES a > 'Padre', there IS some crazed Wop wid a nailgun > I NEVER want mad at me > running around da Joisey shores!!! > AND he KNOWS (or Larry's GPS does) where I live!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 25 06:50:06 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:50:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384BBA1A59@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA> Message-ID: Wind in your sails perhaps, but you may have been financially ahead if you had let them total it ( What were they offering to pay out initially? ); bought back the car; ( I think it's 10% of settlement ) and fixed it yourself and gotten it re-appraised and safetied. I would guess that they were going to give you $6000, and you would be able to keep the car for $600, leaving you $5400 ( less deductible ). I would guess that you could get the car back in order and on the road for $3000? You might have been $2400 ahead ... this way, I'm guessing that you're out the deductable?? Anyway that's the way I think ... I'm sure that you have your reasons for not wanting it 'totalled'. Robert D. -----Original Message----- From: David Riker Almost from the start, State Farm wanted to total my Midget for two crunched front fenders, a bashed grill, poked front valence panel, and the small bits associated with what to me seems a very minor fender bender. Talk about a racket. Anyway, I've been insisting over the course of three weeks that I would not accept any settlement that meant that my car was totalled. Finally, they decided to hire an independent firm to appraise my car. The first appraiser didn't seem to have a clue, he was more of a muscle car guy, but after about 15 minutes it dawned on me that I had pre-accident pictures posted on the web, so I emailed him the link. Once he saw the pictures, he started to get it. The next day, his boss called me who was very well qualified on british cars, and asked me very specific questions about my car that only someone who had owned an MG would know. Well, today I got a call from State Farm, and the car will NOT be totalled, and on top of that, the appraisal came in at $14,500! So here is my plan as of now. 1. remove dented parts and assess if they can be repaired. 2. get the car to the body shop to have the frame rails straightend and the front end aligned. >From there, I am fairly sure I am going to need a driver's side fender for a 70-74. I noticed that Victoria British Fenders do not have the holes drilled for the side marker lights. That would save me the labor for welding and filling those holes back up. The fenders from Moss seem to have the holes drilled. I could go with a good used fender too, if I can find one in good shape. I would consider replacing the fenders with fiberglass ones, but all the ones I've found are flared. The front valence I will have to assess. If I can get by with just replacing the front panel, I'd like to use one from a 1500 midget that has the extra cutouts. If I have to replace the whole assembly, I can't go that way because the heater air duct is on the wrong side. Anyway, there is some wind back in my sails, so to speak. David Riker From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 25 07:22:11 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:22:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations References: <900418.13434.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <029501c8ee59$72f68e00$6401a8c0@Larry> When you start thinking that you understand Ed, you've had too many beers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations I had to drink a few beers to translate from Edglish, but I think I understand that. --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Ed's Shop wrote: > From: Ed's Shop > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations > To: "bugeye at yahoogroups.com" , "Spridgets" > , midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:41 PM > < has agreed to set up > a collection point for > any monetary donations for the Holy Sprite.>> > I TOLD Frank (on the 19th) AND requested that he post > the following: > > > YOU 'announce' it AND put on BCF (and ask > Brad to forward to m-s at > yahoo and Jack L. to forward to Bugeye at yahoo). > > > I am admending the above as I am on all three (3) > Lists. But Jack or > Frank, please take care of BCF because I don't go > there much any more > since 'the change/update'. (sucks) > > > Make checks payable to " Just Brits " and ask > that donor make POSITIVE > to put "Jack Shit Fund" in the Notation line. > > Make it "Holy Sprite". It would be > next to insane to 'point' > donations (other than just general expenses) to > 'parts', 'gas', etc.. > > I will maintain a Excel or FileMaker Pro data base with > ALL the info. > If I get a chance, I'll ask my bank about a new > acct but they where > just bought out by one of the Big Boys and I > doubt they will be > willing to help!! > > > I did check w/'new' bank and they would do so > for $10,000.00 minimum > dollars deposit > to START with (I laughed). Guess that means they > are no longer a > 'your community bank'!! > Ed > All mailing info at: www.justbrits.com > PS: And running off wid da funds is OUT of question > 'cause BESIDES a > 'Padre', there IS some crazed Wop wid a nailgun > I NEVER want mad at me > running around da Joisey shores!!! > AND he KNOWS (or Larry's GPS does) where I live!!!! > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 25 07:48:20 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:48:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <008c01c8ee20$03ced570$6600a8c0@dave> References: <008c01c8ee20$03ced570$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <1732450582.20080725064820@pacifier.com> Hello David, People on the list (Alan?) have spare fenders.. one guy back east, one guy in arizona that if i recall correctly.. that way you don't have to deal with (this is for Frank) Chinese Steel Replacement Parts... probably they have the valence too... someone will contact you........ -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I just saw a lion fly overhead," Tom said uproariously. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 25 07:55:04 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update References: <008c01c8ee20$03ced570$6600a8c0@dave> <1732450582.20080725064820@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > People on the list (Alan?) have spare fenders.. one guy back > east, one guy in arizona that if i recall correctly.. that way > you don't have to deal with (this is for Frank) Chinese Steel > Replacement Parts... probably they have the valence too... > someone will contact you........ I thought it was Chinese Replacement Auto Parts, no? Lorry Denials From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Jul 25 07:52:58 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:52:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com><4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> If coming across I-40 I can assist through Oklahoma most likely, not sure what we are pulling it on or what not or when. I work in public education and school is about to start so during the week time is off for me, have to be a weekend thing. Let me know. I guess more details needed to commit due to my job restrictions, now last month I was good anytime, but with August week days are no good. charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2258 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jul 25 08:33:45 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:33:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c8ee63$71919b40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Never a good idea to let the insurance company "total" your car, then buy it back from them. First of all, you will have to bid on it, to get it back, which can be expensive. Then, when you do get it back, and repair it, the car will be issued a "Reconstructed" title, which is fine, if you intend to keep it forever, but very bad if you ever plan to sell it. A "Reconstructed" title means you take a big hit, in resale value. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:50 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget accident update Wind in your sails perhaps, but you may have been financially ahead if you had let them total it ( What were they offering to pay out initially? ); bought back the car; ( I think it's 10% of settlement ) and fixed it yourself and gotten it re-appraised and safetied. I would guess that they were going to give you $6000, and you would be able to keep the car for $600, leaving you $5400 ( less deductible ). I would guess that you could get the car back in order and on the road for $3000? You might have been $2400 ahead ... this way, I'm guessing that you're out the deductable?? Anyway that's the way I think ... I'm sure that you have your reasons for not wanting it 'totalled'. Robert D. From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jul 25 08:21:50 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:21:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update References: Message-ID: <001a01c8ee61$c8824c80$6600a8c0@dave> There's no deductable, because it was the other guys fault. They didn't think it was worth $3500 when we started this whole mess, so no, I wasn't going to settle for that. Also, before I accept a check, I plan on getting them to leave the claim open on two items, the frame rails, and paint match. The last time this happened, the painter, with the correct paint codes, who was the guy who painted it in the first place, couldn't get the paint to match, and ended up re-painting the whole car. If you've had a shop do a base/clear paint complete in the last 5 years, you'd know that that alone could run $7000. The original estimate is for $7300, their adjuster says $6800, I should know soon what they plan on offering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget accident update > Wind in your sails perhaps, but you may have been financially ahead if you > had let them total it ( What were they offering to pay out initially? ); > bought back the car; ( I think it's 10% of settlement ) and fixed it > yourself and gotten it re-appraised and safetied. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 25 08:49:24 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:49:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <001a01c8ee61$c8824c80$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: Your insurance seems much more flexible than mine. I insure my cars as daily drivers and they require an appraisal of the car's value. I've never had to update the appraisal ... yet. They would never pay out a higher price than what I'm paying coverage for. Good luck! I'm sure this isn't fun! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Riker" There's no deductable, because it was the other guys fault. They didn't think it was worth $3500 when we started this whole mess, so no, I wasn't going to settle for that. Also, before I accept a check, I plan on getting them to leave the claim open on two items, the frame rails, and paint match. The last time this happened, the painter, with the correct paint codes, who was the guy who painted it in the first place, couldn't get the paint to match, and ended up re-painting the whole car. If you've had a shop do a base/clear paint complete in the last 5 years, you'd know that that alone could run $7000. The original estimate is for $7300, their adjuster says $6800, I should know soon what they plan on offering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget accident update >Wind in your sails perhaps, but you may have been financially ahead if you >had let them total it ( What were they offering to pay out initially? ); >bought back the car; ( I think it's 10% of settlement ) and fixed it >yourself and gotten it re-appraised and safetied. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 25 09:01:38 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:01:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <001201c8ee63$71919b40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: I didn't have to bid on my 'B back in '79. I had first right of refusal. I don't remember the details of the conversation, but I do remember saying something to the effect of "hey, it's MY car until we settle and I'm not letting it go". Titles have changed a lot over that time frame. I do have a US RWA in my garage with a 'salvage' title. I was told that it might have to go through a "special" safety check, in addition to the regular one, if I ever wanted to put it on the road again. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/replacement_engine/replacement_engine.htm ( the words are the vendors ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bud Osbourne" Never a good idea to let the insurance company "total" your car, then buy it back from them. First of all, you will have to bid on it, to get it back, which can be expensive. Then, when you do get it back, and repair it, the car will be issued a "Reconstructed" title, which is fine, if you intend to keep it forever, but very bad if you ever plan to sell it. A "Reconstructed" title means you take a big hit, in resale value. Bud Osbourne From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 25 09:08:37 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:08:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update References: Message-ID: <004a01c8ee68$50ece110$6401a8c0@Larry> There are ways of "cleaning" a salvage title. It involves getting it titled in certain states and then back to your home state. Unfortunately, I don't remember the details of which state to do this in. I "think" IL was one of them. This is also old info and things may have tightened up a bit since then. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget accident update I didn't have to bid on my 'B back in '79. I had first right of refusal. I don't remember the details of the conversation, but I do remember saying something to the effect of "hey, it's MY car until we settle and I'm not letting it go". Titles have changed a lot over that time frame. I do have a US RWA in my garage with a 'salvage' title. I was told that it might have to go through a "special" safety check, in addition to the regular one, if I ever wanted to put it on the road again. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/replacement_engine/replacement_engine.htm ( the words are the vendors ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bud Osbourne" Never a good idea to let the insurance company "total" your car, then buy it back from them. First of all, you will have to bid on it, to get it back, which can be expensive. Then, when you do get it back, and repair it, the car will be issued a "Reconstructed" title, which is fine, if you intend to keep it forever, but very bad if you ever plan to sell it. A "Reconstructed" title means you take a big hit, in resale value. Bud Osbourne You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 25 09:39:16 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:39:16 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <004a01c8ee68$50ece110$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Too late for this car, I think. It's in Ontario, Canada now. When it was coming across the border I had 2 options. Scrap title ( no possibility of ever getting on the road again ) or something along the lines of a 'salvage title' which gave me the possibility of restoring it at some point. I paid a bit extra (tax?) to keep my options open. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" There are ways of "cleaning" a salvage title. It involves getting it titled in certain states and then back to your home state. Unfortunately, I don't remember the details of which state to do this in. I "think" IL was one of them. This is also old info and things may have tightened up a bit since then. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" I didn't have to bid on my 'B back in '79. I had first right of refusal. I don't remember the details of the conversation, but I do remember saying something to the effect of "hey, it's MY car until we settle and I'm not letting it go". Titles have changed a lot over that time frame. I do have a US RWA in my garage with a 'salvage' title. I was told that it might have to go through a "special" safety check, in addition to the regular one, if I ever wanted to put it on the road again. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/replacement_engine/replacement_engine.htm ( the words are the vendors ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Bud Osbourne" Never a good idea to let the insurance company "total" your car, then buy it back from them. First of all, you will have to bid on it, to get it back, which can be expensive. Then, when you do get it back, and repair it, the car will be issued a "Reconstructed" title, which is fine, if you intend to keep it forever, but very bad if you ever plan to sell it. A "Reconstructed" title means you take a big hit, in resale value. Bud Osbourne From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jul 25 09:56:23 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:56:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002001c8ee6e$fd33c1e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Yeah, life was much simpler back in '79. Now, when they total your car, and you want to keep the carcass, they offer it up for bids. You have the opportunity to match the high bid, if you want to keep it. Of course, you can retain physical possession of the car, and refuse to surrender it to the insurance company. However, they will simply deduct the amount of the high bid from your settlement check. Personally, if I were in that position (wrecked Spridget), I'd have the car towed from the wreck site to my home garage, and make the insurance company send their adjuster out to look at it. That way, at least the insurance company isn't holding ALL of the cards. If the car is towed to a body shop (and it will invariably be one that does a lot of insurance claim repairs), you are really at the mercy of the insurance company. I had a situation like that, with my ex-wife's Midget, years ago. She stuffed the car pretty good, and allowed the insurance company to take possession of it. They moved it to one of "their" collision shops and were going to just sit on the thing until they wore her down on the settlement amount. She called me and asked me what she should do (I was always her "go-to guy" when she got in a bind). I just took my trailer down there, one Sunday morning, and loaded the thing on & took it out to our farm for safe keeping. The body shop wasn't too pleased (they thought that, since it couldn't be driven or flat-towed, no one would try to move it), but, since she had the title in her possession, and they didn't know who had picked it up, they couldn't do anything about it except complain...... Anyhow, two new fenders, a bonnet and a valence later, it was as good as new (frame was not damaged). I had her dictate terms to the insurance company, stating that she would keep the car, and have it repaired herself. They could either total it, or pay the repair bill, if it was less (it was, but they "totaled" it, anyway). She totaled the car two more times, before she finally sold it and moved back to Minnesota. I think the car is still in the Pittsburgh area (Sewickley). It's a Teal Blue '74. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:02 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] midget accident update I didn't have to bid on my 'B back in '79. I had first right of refusal. I don't remember the details of the conversation, but I do remember saying something to the effect of "hey, it's MY car until we settle and I'm not letting it go". Titles have changed a lot over that time frame. I do have a US RWA in my garage with a 'salvage' title. I was told that it might have to go through a "special" safety check, in addition to the regular one, if I ever wanted to put it on the road again. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/replacement_engine/replacement_e ngine.htm ( the words are the vendors ) From dwramsey at att.net Fri Jul 25 10:08:07 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:08:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <008c01c8ee20$03ced570$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <20080725160806.61AF1187651@autox.team.net> David, I am surprised you would think that the pictures of any Victoria British part have anything at all to do with the actual part they will ship you. Crash 70-74. I noticed that Victoria British Fenders do not have the holes drilled for the side marker lights. Anyway, there is some wind back in my sails, so to speak. David Riker _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 25 10:32:51 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:32:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: <20080725160806.61AF1187651@autox.team.net> Message-ID: So ... do you figure that they ship the holes separately? Robert D. I should run, shouldn't I? :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Ramsey" David, I am surprised you would think that the pictures of any Victoria British part have anything at all to do with the actual part they will ship you. Crash 70-74. I noticed that Victoria British Fenders do not have the holes drilled for the side marker lights. Anyway, there is some wind back in my sails, so to speak. David Riker _______________________________________________ You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jul 25 10:46:21 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update In-Reply-To: References: <20080725160806.61AF1187651@autox.team.net>, Message-ID: <4889A0ED.13302.B33726@dmg.bossig.com> Or, at a minimum, practice ducking..... On 25 Jul 2008 at 16:32, Robert Duquette wrote: >> So ... do you figure that they ship the holes separately? >> >> Robert D. >> I should run, shouldn't I? :) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 10:48:20 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:48:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. Message-ID: <9750AD42-A0E1-4559-810D-14D3FD695A10@comcast.net> anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of my Bugeye.. and I have a few more.. Lester From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 10:49:01 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:49:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Robert D Parker II from California.. Message-ID: <9B8895C9-706B-4570-8507-A23CA04A4303@comcast.net> anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of my Bugeye.. and I have a few more.. Lester From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 10:49:44 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:49:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Eleanor jane Holmok from California Message-ID: <24580DF9-D02A-4B8C-9317-3BFA55633666@comcast.net> anyone know her or his whereabouts, former owner of my Bugeye.. and I have a few more.. Lester From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 10:50:17 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jerry Trapp from California Message-ID: <4E0836B3-1BC5-42E2-9549-FA38A3425B7E@comcast.net> anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of my Bugeye.. last one Lester From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 11:16:23 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... In-Reply-To: <4888F57B.22292.31D7441@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <446164.69386.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I saw some in Advance that looked good. I think the name is "Rhino". Some sort of composite / plastic material that looked very substantial. They had two versions (different weight capacities - either of which would hold multiple Spridgets). There is a big lip at the back edge so you can't go too far. I think there's some kind of slight elevation change or small lip at the top of the ramp too, but I might be wrong there. If it is much of a dip, looks like you would have trouble backing off of it when you're finished with your work... Has anybody used these? I was thinking about getting a pair myself. - David '71 Midget Long Island --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... To: "spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 11:34 PM I'd like to put the frongt of the Sprite up on ramps while working on it. Looking around at places like HF, Shucks, NAPA, etc... I've only found ramps that have a flat top. IIRC ramps used to have a sort of 'dip' in them to hold the wheel in place. Don't they make them that way any more?? I don't fel confident that flat top ramps would help hold the car in place.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 25 12:41:09 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:41:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: Hi Folks, Here is the latest on getting the Holy Sprite on the way. I am hoping to get the trailer from Buster and then on to Glens for the car mid next week, Aug 6 give or take a day or so. Currently there are offers that will get the car from the Chicago - Ohio area to NJ. Then there are offers to get the car: From Denver to Kansas City From Flagstaff to Albuquerque Oklahoma - pick up drop off TBD Memphis to eastern TN Sacramento to Elko, NV (needs gas) So we need the gaps filled in. I will do the Sacramento to Flagstaff if there is no other offer but it doubles my trip distance to 2,000 miles. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 25 12:44:53 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:44:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Update 2 Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> Just got offers for: Grand Junction to Denver Cheyenne to mid Nebraska Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 13:28:37 2008 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:28:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Update 2 Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040807251228t171a68bekd457aadc9ebfa2cd@mail.gmail.com> I'm lost. Maybe (for the slow people like me) you could make a diagram of the route and then other people might see where they could help out. Thanks, Trevor Jessie On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Just got offers for: > > Grand Junction to Denver > > Cheyenne to mid Nebraska > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 14:26:49 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:26:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807251326j28a53fb1vb81145701fc21d98@mail.gmail.com> Bob, Here are the possibilities for me.... I-70 Cheyenne to Kansas City I-70 Denver to Kansas City US50, US56, I-70 Colorado Springs to Kansas City I-40, say, Santa Rosa to Oklahoma City Cheers!! Jim - Dodge City, Kansas On 7/25/08, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > Here is the latest on getting the Holy Sprite on the way. > > I am hoping to get the trailer from Buster and then on to Glens for > the car mid next week, Aug 6 give or take a day or so. > > Currently there are offers that will get the car from the Chicago - > Ohio area to NJ. > > Then there are offers to get the car: > > From Denver to Kansas City > From Flagstaff to Albuquerque > Oklahoma - pick up drop off TBD > Memphis to eastern TN > Sacramento to Elko, NV (needs gas) > > So we need the gaps filled in. > > I will do the Sacramento to Flagstaff if there is no other offer but > it doubles my trip distance to 2,000 miles. > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 14:32:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:32:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Update 2 Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <8c1781040807251228t171a68bekd457aadc9ebfa2cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> <8c1781040807251228t171a68bekd457aadc9ebfa2cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807251332q752ac0e0mb84c5b381e9e3dd5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Trevor, I got the impression that Bob is trying to build the route around the various possibilities rather than setting the route and leting people fill in. Cheers!! Jim On 7/25/08, Trevor Jessie wrote: > > I'm lost. Maybe (for the slow people like me) you could make a diagram > of the route and then other people might see where they could help > out. > > Thanks, > > Trevor Jessie > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > Just got offers for: > > > > Grand Junction to Denver > > > > Cheyenne to mid Nebraska > > > > Bob Kitterer > > > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jul 25 16:24:00 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:24:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Update 2 Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections Message-ID: <488A5280.5010504@justbrits.com> Folks, I DID start a Frappr map (below) and spent far too much time yeasterday trying to ADD volunteers by their home location. Damned if I could!! So I guess if you all would just go there and add yourselves, It would help Bob with his planning. http://www.frappr.com/?a=constellation_map&mapid=137440640195&src= flash_map&sig=visitor_map&src_mvid=137440786637&origin=other&ct=seemore Or: *http://tinyurl.com/5c44mr * From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 25 15:51:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080725165018.03b595e8@nosimport.com> I think "Leap Frog" as a name might be appropriate..... Peter C. At 01:41 PM 7/25/2008, Kitterer Bob wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Here is the latest on getting the Holy Sprite on the way. > >I am hoping to get the trailer from Buster and then on to Glens for >the car mid next week, Aug 6 give or take a day or so. > >Currently there are offers that will get the car from the Chicago - >Ohio area to NJ. > >Then there are offers to get the car: > > From Denver to Kansas City > From Flagstaff to Albuquerque >Oklahoma - pick up drop off TBD >Memphis to eastern TN >Sacramento to Elko, NV (needs gas) > >So we need the gaps filled in. > >I will do the Sacramento to Flagstaff if there is no other offer but >it doubles my trip distance to 2,000 miles. > >Thanks > >Bob Kitterer From stevenm at optonline.net Fri Jul 25 16:19:16 2008 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:19:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 References: <08dd01c8dc7a$e5c59070$e6edfea9@1705n3> Message-ID: <020201c8eea4$7abd4250$69c6fea9@1705n3> Ok, the consensus is that I should weld up the old clutch pedal or get another one. I am in fact in the process of getting a replacement pedal from Roger C from here on the list, but in the meantime I really needed to use the car, so here's the repair... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/Clutch_pedal_issue.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Steven Michelsen Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clutch pedal trouble on my 1500 HOLY CRAP!!! Ok, first, you CAN change out the push rod (on the '68 cars) without pulling the master. Remove the boot, and you should see a snap ring (Harbor Freight sells a snap ring plier set cheap) remove the ring, and the push rod and washer come out. Put your new push rod and washer back in, and make sure the snap ring sets completely. You will need to pull the pedal box, to remove the pedal. Take it to a welding shop, and have them weld up the hole. You need to drill the hole out to 21/32 (I also just did this to ours, but it wasn't NEAR as bad as yours) and most hardware stores will have a new 5/16 clevis for you. Good Luck, Brad On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote: I've got a bit of trouble with my clutch pedal. It seems that the the hole at the top of the clutch pedal and the hole on the clutch MC push rod have both been stretched into oblong shapes, resulting in extra free play in the pedal, and the push rod isn't getting pushed in all the way, creating an "iffy" shifting situation. Here is a picture of the mess... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/clutch_pedal_trouble.jpg I guess welding a proper hole onto the end of the clutch pedal would be the tidyest thing to do. But I don't do welding. What I think I want to do at least at first is go after the hole with some bits of metal and lots of JB Weld. Also, I see that I probably have to un-mount the entire MC support structure to get the clutch MC off, to get the push rod out, which looks like no fun, so I will probably opt to do some sort of repair on the existing push rod as well. Or is there a way to get that push rod out with dissecting the whole thing? I am just back from the (closing this year) Moss store in Dover, NJ, and have a new push rod in hand. OR, does anyone have a spare clutch pedal they can part with? Thanks, Steve _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1528 - Release Date: 7/1/2008 7:26 AM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 25 17:02:53 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:02:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <753267.9099.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00fb01c8eeaa$91f961f0$6401a8c0@Larry> To all who plan on going to the Microcar show in Racine, if it works for you, how about we meet at the entrance at 11:00. We can see the show and then have a bite to eat. Sound OK? Larry Daniels From pdx.pete at verizon.net Fri Jul 25 17:29:19 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:29:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: Hi, Bob To whom should the Sacramento to Elko gas money be sent? To the person driving that leg, or to Wholly Ed's Holy Sprite donation site? (Guess I'm asking how immediate the need is here.) Thanks, Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections > Hi Folks, > > Here is the latest on getting the Holy Sprite on the way. > > I am hoping to get the trailer from Buster and then on to Glens for > the car mid next week, Aug 6 give or take a day or so. > > Currently there are offers that will get the car from the Chicago - > Ohio area to NJ. > > Then there are offers to get the car: > > From Denver to Kansas City > From Flagstaff to Albuquerque > Oklahoma - pick up drop off TBD > Memphis to eastern TN > Sacramento to Elko, NV (needs gas) > > So we need the gaps filled in. > > I will do the Sacramento to Flagstaff if there is no other offer but > it doubles my trip distance to 2,000 miles. > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 17:50:49 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:50:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488A66D9.6050401@comcast.net> Lester wrote: > anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of my Bugeye.. and > I have a few more.. It might be obvious, but did you try Googling these people? (I tried and few, but didn't know who I was looking for.) -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 17:52:31 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. In-Reply-To: <488A66D9.6050401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20230.57488.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Try zabasearch.com --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Kent McLean wrote: > From: Kent McLean > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 6:50 PM > Lester wrote: > > anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of > my Bugeye.. and > > I have a few more.. > > It might be obvious, but did you try Googling these people? > (I tried > and few, but didn't know who I was looking for.) > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 25 17:54:25 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:54:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> Message-ID: I am to fast. Have been reminded that the title is still not going to happen until the end of Aug. so shift everything by a month. As long as the date does not effect any one this is what we have for a routes. There are still several options in the west because there are gaps between where different folks can move the car. This is what I have as of now starting in Sacramento - mileages are estimates and one way only. Also some folks can only do this with help on the gas - I am not addressing that issue. From Sacramento there are the northern routes and a southern route. Northern route status: Sacramento to Elko, NV [435 miles] (I-80)- needs gas funds Sacramento to Cheyenne, WY [1100 miles] or Denver, CO [1200 miles but faster] (I-80) - no offers Sacramento to Grand Junction[950 miles] or Denver, CO [1165 miles] (I-80 & US 50) - no offers or any of these locations from Elko, NV perhaps. We have an offer to get the car to Kansas City (I-70), maybe Des Moines (I-80) from Cheyenne [680 miles], Grand Junction [848 miles] or Denver [610 miles] From there to Ohio [600 miles] is not covered. From Ohio to Franks [650 miles] is covered by several people. Southern route status: Sacramento to Flagstaff, AZ [870 miles] (I-5 & I-40) - me if no other offer comes in. Flagstaff to Albuquerque [325 miles] (I-40) is covered. Then there is a gap [about 900 miles] with offers in OK, TX and TN but these do not connected. As of now the OK offer may get us to Kansas City if we can cover the gap from Albuquerque. That is were we are at - hope this is clearer. Stay tuned. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Just got offers for: > > Grand Junction to Denver > > Cheyenne to mid Nebraska > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Fri Jul 25 17:58:57 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:58:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. In-Reply-To: <20230.57488.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <488A66D9.6050401@comcast.net> <20230.57488.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807251658t529937e0oc304d829513c22a8@mail.gmail.com> and www.pipl.com can be fun/interesting, too.... On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Try zabasearch.com > > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Kent McLean wrote: > >> From: Kent McLean >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 6:50 PM >> Lester wrote: >> > anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of >> my Bugeye.. and >> > I have a few more.. >> >> It might be obvious, but did you try Googling these people? >> (I tried >> and few, but didn't know who I was looking for.) >> >> -- >> Kent McLean >> '56 100 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 25 17:59:22 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:59:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <8480285C-3AE5-47D6-9F63-FCA997356006@mac.com> At this time we just have offers to move the car. No route or drivers have been finalized so assume that money would only go to the fund, if it exist. I do not know how gas funds are being handled, just not paying attention I guess. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:29 PM, pdxpete wrote: > Hi, Bob > > To whom should the Sacramento to Elko gas money be sent? To the > person driving that leg, or to Wholly Ed's Holy Sprite donation > site? (Guess I'm asking how immediate the need is here.) > > Thanks, > Pete > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 11:41 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections > > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Here is the latest on getting the Holy Sprite on the way. >> >> I am hoping to get the trailer from Buster and then on to Glens for >> the car mid next week, Aug 6 give or take a day or so. >> >> Currently there are offers that will get the car from the Chicago - >> Ohio area to NJ. >> >> Then there are offers to get the car: >> >> From Denver to Kansas City >> From Flagstaff to Albuquerque >> Oklahoma - pick up drop off TBD >> Memphis to eastern TN >> Sacramento to Elko, NV (needs gas) >> >> So we need the gaps filled in. >> >> I will do the Sacramento to Flagstaff if there is no other offer but >> it doubles my trip distance to 2,000 miles. >> >> Thanks >> >> Bob Kitterer >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> 2000 Miata Special Edition >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 18:35:08 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:35:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0807251658t529937e0oc304d829513c22a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <488A66D9.6050401@comcast.net> <20230.57488.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <28f529ba0807251658t529937e0oc304d829513c22a8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3423C2BB-41F2-40E6-809A-49450DA62F13@comcast.net> I did a google search and only found the Mcgaha name in Clermont, I left a message.. never heard of pipl so here goes.. Thanks all! Lester On Jul 25, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Mike Vasquez wrote: > and www.pipl.com can be fun/interesting, too.... > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ron Soave wrote: >> Try zabasearch.com >> >> >> --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Kent McLean wrote: >> >>> From: Kent McLean >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michael fred mcGaha from california.. >>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >>> Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 6:50 PM >>> Lester wrote: >>>> anyone know him or his whereabouts, former owner of >>> my Bugeye.. and >>>> I have a few more.. >>> >>> It might be obvious, but did you try Googling these people? >>> (I tried >>> and few, but didn't know who I was looking for.) >>> >>> -- >>> Kent McLean >>> '56 100 BN2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 20:09:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:09:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget stickers Message-ID: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net> I just spent the evening with my Dad and he can do a run of stickers but he is sort of busy with work so he suggested screen printed one color stickers in place of the vinyl die cut ones like in the past. This means one color on clear vinyl. Peel and stick and only in positives. The last batch were any color, positive to stick anywhere or negative for inside of windshields. So only white on clear and positive print. $1 per sticker, he's gonna run 100 (or so) in about a week or so. " vinyl and inks are petroleum based, prices went sky high" So if you want a sticker or 5, send a self addressed stamped (42 cent) envelope to me with $1 per sticker and I will send your envelope back to you with a sticker or 5 in it. Please email me with a total so I can tell him about how many to print. If I say 100, and 20 people want 10 each, that won't work. If 50 people want 2 each, that's fine but I have no idea how many you guys want so a close count sure would help. Cash or check is fine, no paypal since you have to mail me an envelope anyway. Mail your SASE to me; Frank Clarici 631 Parkside Ave Toms River, NJ 08753 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jul 25 20:32:27 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:32:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racine Microcar Show References: <753267.9099.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00fb01c8eeaa$91f961f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <0AD20C3CB5E346F8BB0FD6EB55A368C4@midget> > To all who plan on going to the Microcar show in Racine, if it works for > you, how about we meet at the entrance at 11:00. We can see the show and > then have a bite to eat. Sound OK? > > Larry Daniels Sounds good to me. Trish and I should be there to greet you. David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 20:45:42 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:45:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations Message-ID: <488A8FD6.40601@comcast.net> I never thought about donations until Ed mentioned something. And today I received $100 cash from a lister in the great North West to use as I see fit. Do you think we as a list and maybe mention it to other British cars @autox.team.net lists, can come up with a few thousand bucks to give Father Jack a totally restored Bugeye? I know, now I;m asking for too much. Get the car across country by donating you hauling time and gas, now give money to restore the Sprite. Hey, you give money to a church and you don't know where it goes. So give money to a retired priest's Sprite fund and you know it went to a man who's life was put on hold some 50 years ago and wants a Bugeye. Besides, maybe he can say a good word for you when your time comes ;) My word will not help you get anywhere, Father Jack's word might help. Parts, money, gas, and time are all we need. Once the car gets to NJ, I will set up a weekend for some serious body work and sanding. If you want to learn, you are welcome to come. I can put up a 3 or 4 people and there is a new motel 6 blocks up the street at the highway. Comfort Inn just opened July 4th. I will also need help when the paint drys to assemble the car, suspension, brakes, interior, engine/trans and all that. Sort of like a Buster Cluster. What do you think about donations for the Holy Sprite project? Should I mention it to Mark and see if he can post it on all the LBC lists? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 25 21:24:34 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:24:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> Message-ID: <0BDB61D4-35EF-4565-A989-EC2B7AC69BF0@mac.com> We now have a complete link from CO to NJ. The barren west from Sacramento to CO still needs closing. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > I am to fast. Have been reminded that the title is still not going > to happen until the end of Aug. so shift everything by a month. > > As long as the date does not effect any one this is what we have for > a routes. There are still several options in the west because there > are gaps between where different folks can move the car. This is > what I have as of now starting in Sacramento - mileages are > estimates and one way only. Also some folks can only do this with > help on the gas - I am not addressing that issue. > > From Sacramento there are the northern routes and a southern route. > > Northern route status: > > Sacramento to Elko, NV [435 miles] (I-80)- needs gas funds > Sacramento to Cheyenne, WY [1100 miles] or Denver, CO [1200 miles > but faster] (I-80) - no offers > Sacramento to Grand Junction[950 miles] or Denver, CO [1165 miles] > (I-80 & US 50) - no offers > or any of these locations from Elko, NV perhaps. > > We have an offer to get the car to Kansas City (I-70), maybe Des > Moines (I-80) from Cheyenne [680 miles], Grand Junction [848 miles] > or Denver [610 miles] > > From there to Ohio [600 miles] is not covered. > > From Ohio to Franks [650 miles] is covered by several people. > > Southern route status: > > Sacramento to Flagstaff, AZ [870 miles] (I-5 & I-40) - me if no other > offer comes in. > > Flagstaff to Albuquerque [325 miles] (I-40) is covered. > > Then there is a gap [about 900 miles] with offers in OK, TX and TN > but these do not connected. As of now the OK offer may get us to > Kansas City if we can cover the gap from Albuquerque. > > That is were we are at - hope this is clearer. > > Stay tuned. > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jul 25, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Just got offers for: >> >> Grand Junction to Denver >> >> Cheyenne to mid Nebraska >> >> Bob Kitterer >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> 2000 Miata Special Edition >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 25 22:12:09 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com><4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com><78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net><003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> <0BDB61D4-35EF-4565-A989-EC2B7AC69BF0@mac.com> Message-ID: <00c501c8eed5$c6effb00$01fea8c0@C600> I'm still willing to take it from Elko to SLC, providing the schedule doesn't interfere with my surgery. Gas donations not necessary, but would be most welcome. Kate Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections > We now have a complete link from CO to NJ. The barren west from > Sacramento to CO still needs closing. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jul 25 22:22:39 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:22:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <488A8FD6.40601@comcast.net> References: <488A8FD6.40601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <799C2C45-B3F2-4178-AA3D-ECBB1579AB5B@valentinephoto.net> Frank, I say go for it. You have always been there for anyone who needed parts or advice whenever they needed your help. I'm sure there are many people on the lists who will be willing to help with this. I'm in for whatever you need whenever you need it. Kevin On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I never thought about donations until Ed mentioned something. > And today I received $100 cash from a lister in the great North > West to > use as I see fit. > Do you think we as a list and maybe mention it to other British cars > @autox.team.net lists, can come up with a few thousand bucks to give > Father Jack a totally restored Bugeye? From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 23:24:40 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show and Elkhart Lake KIC In-Reply-To: <0AD20C3CB5E346F8BB0FD6EB55A368C4@midget> Message-ID: <428060.79992.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I got overruled and am going to see the Batman movie at the Madison Imax tomorrow. Tomorrow evening I really want to button up White Trash for Grattan if you guys get bored afterward. Putting the motor back in solo without a proper hoist gets old after a while. BTW - no one mentioned last week what an incredible time Road America's Kohler Int'l Classic was. An incredible array of cars this year with some very cool new blood, both at the track and Concours, with our own Terry "Tutone" Heffron judging. Tutone has the single most encyclopedic level of vintage car knowledge of anyone you will ever meet - I think he even trumps our VSCDA historian. At points it can go like this - "Wow! A 1957 Flugelwaggen Special, one of 3 made! This si the one that nearly ran the Ring when one of the Porsche drivers ordered the fish at the pre-race dinner with a guy named Herrman cooking and got food poisoning and almost droed out. That car had ties to Ettore Bugatti in that his barber's nephew's daughter's fiance worked in the pit crew as the gas ca remover. The tires on that one are a slightly darker shade on the original that you see in all the Flugelwaggen books, but these may have been the second set that come from Michelin on that day when the power went out between 11:22 and 11:27 in Aril of 157 during second shift. You remember that, right?" The whether miraculously held out, too. Soave --- On Fri, 7/25/08, David Lieb wrote: > Sounds good to me. Trish and I should be there to greet > you. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 23:27:18 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show and Elkhart Lake KIC Message-ID: <307249.82433.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What an amazing collection of typos below. Sorry about that. This laptop keyboard only works when you shake it like an etch-a-sketch. I really need a new computer. --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: Microcar Show and Elkhart Lake KIC > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 12:24 AM > I got overruled and am going to see the Batman movie at the > Madison Imax tomorrow. Tomorrow evening I really want to > button up White Trash for Grattan if you guys get bored > afterward. Putting the motor back in solo without a proper > hoist gets old after a while. > > BTW - no one mentioned last week what an incredible time > Road America's Kohler Int'l Classic was. An > incredible array of cars this year with some very cool new > blood, both at the track and Concours, with our own Terry > "Tutone" Heffron judging. Tutone has the single > most encyclopedic level of vintage car knowledge of anyone > you will ever meet - I think he even trumps our VSCDA > historian. At points it can go like this - "Wow! A > 1957 Flugelwaggen Special, one of 3 made! This si the one > that nearly ran the Ring when one of the Porsche drivers > ordered the fish at the pre-race dinner with a guy named > Herrman cooking and got food poisoning and almost droed > out. That car had ties to Ettore Bugatti in that his > barber's nephew's daughter's fiance worked in > the pit crew as the gas ca remover. The tires on that one > are a slightly darker shade on the original that you see in > all the Flugelwaggen books, but these may have been the > second set that come from Michelin on > that day when the power went out between 11:22 and 11:27 > in Aril of 157 during second shift. You remember that, > right?" The whether miraculously held out, too. > > Soave > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, David Lieb > wrote: > > Sounds good to me. Trish and I should be there to > greet > > you. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 23:41:40 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations In-Reply-To: <799C2C45-B3F2-4178-AA3D-ECBB1579AB5B@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <382982.23499.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Post it on the Diocese website, too. They're very good at raising dough. --- On Fri, 7/25/08, K. Valentine wrote: > I say go for it. > > You have always been there for anyone who needed parts or > advice > whenever they needed your help. I'm sure there are > many people on > the lists who will be willing to help with this. > > I'm in for whatever you need whenever you need it. > > Kevin > > > On Jul 25, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > I never thought about donations until Ed mentioned > something. > > And today I received $100 cash from a lister in the > great North > > West to > > use as I see fit. > > Do you think we as a list and maybe mention it to > other British cars > > @autox.team.net lists, can come up with a few thousand > bucks to give > > Father Jack a totally restored Bugeye? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 05:02:26 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:02:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations References: <382982.23499.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002b01c8ef0f$178f3bf0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Frank Clarici" ; "K. Valentine" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite donations Post it on the Diocese website, too. They're very good at raising dough. ================================ Have a bingo game and sell beer. The Catholics have always been good at exploiting your vices. LAD (With flashbacks of flying rulers.) From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jul 26 06:45:41 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 05:45:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up Message-ID: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> This is on a 76 Midget tank that has the vent fitting and newer style fuel level sensor. OK so the tank has sat for 20 years with about 2 gallons of the foulest varnish known to man. This apparently was previously gasoline. Anyway as I proceed with the restoration and wanting to save on replacement parts I will go down the path of a clean, etch and slosh the tank. Now I know what your thinking, no this is not to be confused with going out on the town and NOT getting lucky (Just keeping Ed on his toes). There are a few candidate kits out there: A - Eastwood - Apparently a biodegradable cleaner, metal etch and sealer. $45 bucks (OK Reviews on-line) B - POR 15 - Same as above but $75 bucks (Great reviews on-line) C - DIY - Small amount of muratic acid (swimming pool cleaner added to water) followed by NAPA brand metal etch and tank slosh. (Hard Core DIY types) OK so my biggest worry is the fuel pick-up and clogging it. I removed the sensor and peered inside to see what appeared to be quite an exotic fuel pick up gadget. Has anyone had luck restoring a tank this way (the tank in question is in very good shape OUTSIDE) with out pinholes or rust, just tons of varnish. Other advise is to put nuts and bolts or pea-gravel in there and agitate, one Harley guy actually claims to put in nuts seal openings with duct tape , wrap in a few towels and put in in the clothes drier on fluff for 30 minutes. Wow not that would send my wife through the roof (although a Spridget tank would never fit, maybe an industrial drier - naw forget that idea). Flame away. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 26 07:53:47 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <004201c8ef27$0812ec40$1e1af304@spider> Start with the cheapest and simplest, and work up. Do it outside and be careful. Try to remove that exotic fuel pickup thinge. I wouldn't coat the inside with anything unless it requires it, down the road. The fuels today with alcohol in can remove everything you coat in there. One motorcycle fuel expert, in fact, recommends Shell (super octane) for cleaning out tanks. ...bill in Oregon ===================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:46 AM To: 'Spridget List' Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up This is on a 76 Midget tank that has the vent fitting and newer style fuel level sensor. OK so the tank has sat for 20 years with about 2 gallons of the foulest varnish known to man. This apparently was previously gasoline. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 08:03:50 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:03:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: Frank always fills them with water, puts them on the grill, and BBQ's them for a couple of hours, to boil the mung off the bottom. This is NOT a joke!!! Brad On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > This is on a 76 Midget tank that has the vent fitting and newer style fuel > level sensor. > > > > OK so the tank has sat for 20 years with about 2 gallons of the foulest > varnish known to man. This apparently was previously gasoline. > > > > Anyway as I proceed with the restoration and wanting to save on replacement > parts I will go down the path of a clean, etch and slosh the tank. > > > > Now I know what your thinking, no this is not to be confused with going out > on the town and NOT getting lucky (Just keeping Ed on his toes). > > > > There are a few candidate kits out there: > > > > A - Eastwood - Apparently a biodegradable cleaner, metal etch and sealer. > $45 bucks (OK Reviews on-line) > > > > B - POR 15 - Same as above but $75 bucks (Great reviews on-line) > > > > C - DIY - Small amount of muratic acid (swimming pool cleaner added to > water) followed by NAPA brand metal etch and tank slosh. (Hard Core DIY > types) > > > > OK so my biggest worry is the fuel pick-up and clogging it. I removed the > sensor and peered inside to see what appeared to be quite an exotic fuel > pick up gadget. > > > > Has anyone had luck restoring a tank this way (the tank in question is in > very good shape OUTSIDE) with out pinholes or rust, just tons of varnish. > > > > Other advise is to put nuts and bolts or pea-gravel in there and agitate, > one Harley guy actually claims to put in nuts seal openings with duct tape > , > wrap in a few towels and put in in the clothes drier on fluff for 30 > minutes. Wow not that would send my wife through the roof (although a > Spridget tank would never fit, maybe an industrial drier - naw forget that > idea). > > > > Flame away. > > > > > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 08:50:01 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:50:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> References: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807260750u4979c57fy9326e3b39a83a01b@mail.gmail.com> Will a radiator shop clean a fuel tank? If so, try them. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sat Jul 26 09:13:43 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:13:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: References: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> Message-ID: <58E47644-E331-4092-91A4-61C460BA1D84@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 26, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Frank always fills them with water, puts them on the grill, and > BBQ's them > for a couple of hours, to boil the mung off the bottom. > > This is NOT a joke!!! I've done at least 4 tanks this way. Works great! I've also used Castrol Superclean (the purple stuff) full strength to remove varnish. I let it soak in the tank a few days, sloshing it whenever I walked by. I used a garden hose to rinse the tank after the soaking. The tank got amazingly clean. This was on a tank that sat with 3 gallons of gas for about 15 years. The last tank I cleaned I put in my electrolytic tank........ It came out like new ;) I never coat the inside with anything. Once they are clean inside - they stay clean inside if you fill them with gas and drive the car ;) Kevin V. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 26 09:46:09 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:46:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910807260750u4979c57fy9326e3b39a83a01b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Will a radiator shop clean a fuel tank? They will, but they don't so a very good job. From hammack at gotslack.org Sat Jul 26 09:47:32 2008 From: hammack at gotslack.org (Jim Hammack) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:47:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... In-Reply-To: <446164.69386.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <446164.69386.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <488B4714.2050801@gotslack.org> I have a pair of these that I use with my mini. There's a dip to hold you in place, they're lightweight and won't rust. The slope is gentle enough to get a spridget or mini up the ramp without the front end of the car hitting the ramp on the way up. These may be the "low profile" version, though. David Booker wrote: > I saw some in Advance that looked good. I think the name is "Rhino". Some > sort of composite / plastic material that looked very substantial. They had > two versions (different weight capacities - either of which would hold > multiple Spridgets). There is a big lip at the back edge so you can't go too > far. I think there's some kind of slight elevation change or small lip at the > top of the ramp too, but I might be wrong there. If it is much of a dip, > looks like you would have trouble backing off of it when you're finished with > your work... > > Has anybody used these? I was thinking about getting a pair myself. > > - David > '71 Midget > Long Island From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 26 09:57:31 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:57:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910807260750u4979c57fy9326e3b39a83a01b@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c8ef1d$839f3bc0$1002a8c0@TRACY> <5f00d9910807260750u4979c57fy9326e3b39a83a01b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I had mine done that way. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of derf Sent: July 26, 2008 10:50 AM To: Tracy Drummond Cc: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up Will a radiator shop clean a fuel tank? If so, try them. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 10:40:28 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:40:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910807260750u4979c57fy9326e3b39a83a01b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <358573.92416.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are places that will restore a gas tank- like new. The radiator shop near me does this and did a great job on two gas tanks i have taken to the in the past. http://www.mattsonsradiator.com/services/gastank/index.html Vigil So Cal --- On Sat, 7/26/08, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up To: "Tracy Drummond" Cc: "Spridget List" Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 7:50 AM Will a radiator shop clean a fuel tank? If so, try them. You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Sat Jul 26 11:02:05 2008 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:02:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... In-Reply-To: <446164.69386.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4888F57B.22292.31D7441@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20080726125202.00d0c358@mail.bellsouth.net> I use these heavy plastic ramps for oil changes, etc on my wife's Caravan and my Dakota. I wanted something sturdier for these heavy vehicles than the metal ramps I have used since I bought my Bugeye in 1970. They have a more gradual slope and fit under the front lips of the vehicles plus they are plastic and are easier on my garage floor, don't rust, and are quieter. They don't slip and I have had no problems with the vehicles not staying where they are supposed to. I make sure the ramps line up perfectly with the wide tires and the tires are up against the front stops. I also set the hand brake and put the vehicles in Park. I am very satisfied with the ramps. I don't know how they would work on my Midgets because one is a very low slung vintage racer and the other is in a long term refurb. At 10:16 AM 7/25/2008 -0700, David Booker wrote: >I saw some in Advance that looked good. I think the name is "Rhino". Some >sort of composite / plastic material that looked very substantial. They had >two versions (different weight capacities - either of which would hold >multiple Spridgets). There is a big lip at the back edge so you can't go too >far. I think there's some kind of slight elevation change or small lip at the >top of the ramp too, but I might be wrong there. If it is much of a dip, >looks like you would have trouble backing off of it when you're finished with >your work... > >Has anybody used these? I was thinking about getting a pair myself. > > - David >'71 Midget >Long Island > >--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Dave G. wrote: > >From: Dave G. >Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... >To: "spridgets" >Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 11:34 PM > >I'd like to put the frongt of the Sprite up on ramps while working on it. >Looking around at places like HF, Shucks, NAPA, etc... I've only found >ramps that have a flat top. >IIRC ramps used to have a sort of 'dip' in them to hold the wheel in >place. >Don't they make them that way any more?? >I don't fel confident that flat top ramps would help hold the car in >place.. > >-- >Dave G. KK7SS >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > Bob Spruck MGMaven Sharpsburg, GA 67 Midget Vintage Racer 72 Midget Street and Show 6 parts/project cars No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 11:05:06 2008 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps (now) Rhino ramps and safety In-Reply-To: <446164.69386.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <104777.31517.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi all, I have some of the Rhino Ramps and use them with small cars and flyweight pickups. For a small car they are fine. But a word or two of caution. They can and will colapse with a heavier vehicle. My Dad had a C-20 conversion van that smashed one, and I have personaly driven a Honda Civic over the stops! When ever working under a vehicle ALWAYS use sturdy jack stands! A set of good jack stands can be purchased for about $20. Please use eye protection as well. --- On Fri, 7/25/08, David Booker wrote: From: David Booker Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... To: "spridgets" , dmg at bossig.com Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 12:16 PM I saw some in Advance that looked good. I think the name is "Rhino". Some sort of composite / plastic material that looked very substantial. They had two versions (different weight capacities - either of which would hold multiple Spridgets). There is a big lip at the back edge so you can't go too far. I think there's some kind of slight elevation change or small lip at the top of the ramp too, but I might be wrong there. If it is much of a dip, looks like you would have trouble backing off of it when you're finished with your work... Has anybody used these? I was thinking about getting a pair myself. - David '71 Midget Long Island --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: [Spridgets] Ramps LBC related... To: "spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 11:34 PM I'd like to put the frongt of the Sprite up on ramps while working on it. Looking around at places like HF, Shucks, NAPA, etc... I've only found ramps that have a flat top. IIRC ramps used to have a sort of 'dip' in them to hold the wheel in place. Don't they make them that way any more?? I don't fel confident that flat top ramps would help hold the car in place.. From bpazur at excel.net Sat Jul 26 13:26:36 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:26:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? Message-ID: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> I just completed putting another halfshaft in. I put the wheels on, left it on the jacsktands, started it up and put it in gear. In both 1st and Reverse, only the driver's side wheel turns. Is this normal? I never noticed it before, or if I did as far as I can remember. The passenger side wheel is not stuck; I can turn it easily in both directions while the driver's side wheel is turning in gear. I did nothing to the diff except clean it out w/ gasoline. Thanks. Bud Pazur From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 12:51:23 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:51:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> Bud, I've offered anything from Detroit/Toledo/Columbus -to- Tom's River. Of course, if others want to take parts and pieces, that's fine with me. I think there's an offer from Harrisburg (PA) to Frank's, or at least out that way. ---------- If it gets near Western Ohio, you get it to PGH and I'll take it from there - sounds like a plan. ---------- As you clearly stated, and has been said before - TIMING is everything. I'm in Jersey next week, then off to New Orleans for about 7 - 10 days then open (so far!). Bob K - Keep us updated, C B From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sat Jul 26 13:58:54 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End In-Reply-To: <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net> On Jul 26, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > > I think there's an offer from Harrisburg (PA) to Frank's, or at > least out > that way. Charley, That was me....... I can do the Harrisburg to Tom's River leg of the trip. Kevin From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 14:09:17 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:09:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> <58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> OK, Between Bud - Toledo/Detroit to Pittsburgh Charley - Pittsburgh to Harrisburg Kevin - Harrisburg to Tom's River That much is set-up, waiting on the exact time of the transfer. So it is written, so shall it be done! CB ps: Was that lightning?? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 14:44:37 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:44:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? In-Reply-To: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807261344g1dbd5a26g960930c979e725e5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Bud, If I'm not all wet on this, put it up on stands. With the tranny in neutral you should be able to turn one wheel by hand and watch the other one turn in the opposite direction. If it doesn't something ain't right in the diff..... ;-) Good luck with it! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Bud Pazur wrote: > I just completed putting another halfshaft in. I put the wheels on, left it > on > the jacsktands, started it up and put it in gear. In both 1st and Reverse, > only the driver's side wheel turns. Is this normal? I never noticed it > before, > or if I did as far as I can remember. The passenger side wheel is not > stuck; I > can turn it easily in both directions while the driver's side wheel is > turning > in gear. I did nothing to the diff except clean it out w/ gasoline. Thanks. > > Bud Pazur > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 26 15:10:31 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? In-Reply-To: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> References: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <2C195A69-3011-4566-8316-FCDB024D9378@comcast.net> Unless you have a locked or limited slip diff that is the correct thing to happen Lester On Jul 26, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Bud Pazur wrote: > I just completed putting another halfshaft in. I put the wheels on, > left it on > the jacsktands, started it up and put it in gear. In both 1st and > Reverse, > only the driver's side wheel turns. Is this normal? I never noticed > it before, > or if I did as far as I can remember. The passenger side wheel is > not stuck; I > can turn it easily in both directions while the driver's side wheel > is turning > in gear. I did nothing to the diff except clean it out w/ gasoline. > Thanks. > > Bud Pazur From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 26 15:13:00 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:13:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? Message-ID: <001d01c8ef64$633ab8e0$aa03f204@spider> Is there a chance you broke both axles at the same time? ...bill ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:45 PM To: Bud Pazur Cc: Spridgets; Team Thicko Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? Hi Bud, If I'm not all wet on this, put it up on stands. With the tranny in neutral you should be able to turn one wheel by hand and watch the other one turn in the opposite direction. If it doesn't something ain't right in the diff..... ;-) Good luck with it! Cheers!! Jim From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jul 26 15:16:56 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:16:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End In-Reply-To: <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>, <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <488B31D8.25694.18C1074@dmg.bossig.com> Naaah!!! Just a plague of frogs.... On 26 Jul 2008 at 16:09, Charley Braum wrote: >> ps: Was that lightning?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 15:16:52 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:16:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show Message-ID: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> For you guys that couldn't make the show - there was quite a few Messerschmitts, about a half dozen BMW Isettas, a Creep (think 3/4 size replica of a Jeep CJ - made by Crosley), a Fiat 500, a couple Minis (PPP, one of them from Chicago will be contacting you about shocks), a Mikrus MR300 from Poland, and a Berkley that David Lieb and I are going to get into a serious bidding war over when that thing comes up for sale. Then there was a Zundapp Janus http://tinyurl.com/5hhsof . Wierdest damn car I've ever seen. It opens in the front like an Isetta - and it opens in the back the same way. One bench seat facing the front and another facing the back. They are mounted back-to-back and the motor is wedged between them. Oh, yeah, and the object of the most photographic attention was a nice looking blonde wearing a thong bikini (and wearing it well). Shameful. LAD From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 26 15:42:35 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:42:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? Message-ID: <001e01c8ef68$856d01d0$aa03f204@spider> Be sure you filled up the diff. ...bill ========================================================= From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 26 15:55:02 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:55:02 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II Message-ID: In a message dated 23/07/2008 05:51:11 GMT Daylight Time, b-evans at earthlink.net writes: Most of the Brits hang out on the MG Cars bulletin board. My one regret is that more Sprite and Midget owners in the Mother Country of England have not discovered and joined our group. Buster From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Jul 26 15:55:32 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <92F8F72F273D4F31B0DA7AE9E6360B07@Dell9200> And just where is this picture?? ????????????????????????????????????????????????? Oh, yeah, and the object of the most photographic attention was a nice looking blonde wearing a thong bikini (and wearing it well). Shameful. LAD From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 15:58:09 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:58:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <04c401c8ef6a$b1dcab60$6401a8c0@universal1> Ha - we get a link to wikipedia for the car and a written description of the blonde-in-thong. I am depressed! C B From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 26 16:05:37 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:05:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] W E S L A K E holiday - very old LBC Content Message-ID: Hi List, Just catching up on 200 e-mails while back from the annual family holiday. Only car in the household is my 69 Sprite so had a hire car - you'd call it a rental. What a crappy car - typical 1800cc fuel injection modern, gutless and sloppy to drive. So to the memorable content. 1. The 5 year old (6 tomorrow) told me not to drive fast! So I stuck to the speed limits. After stopping (to let her have a pee) I told the family I'd have to pull away a bit sharp as leaving the layby (parking lane in US?) onto a busy dual carriageway would require a quick start. So, by the time I'd got up to 60 she shouts "I thought I told you not to drive fast". Hmm. A couple of days later at a Tee junction needing to turn right onto a busy road (that'd be a left for you guys) I warned the family I'd need another Grand Prix start and for no-one to comment this time.... So, after a long wait a reasonable gap appeared and I pulled out. The car being useless and front wheel drive lifted the nose and spun the inside wheel vigourously producing some noise and smoke. This time the 5 year old shouts, cheers and laughs. Go figure? 2. Stopping at a service station for the wife to stop and have a pee on the way home I had to join a busy dual carriageway. No need for a Grand Prix start though I was up to 60mph pretty quickly. In the overtaking lane I see really old and I mean a lot older than a Spridget, car coming up fast and it passed me (remember I am in the rental car not my Sprite). A single guy doing about 70mph in this tiny car that at first looked like an Austin Seven. As he passed me the make of the car was on the back of it and I was no longer surprised - 'Frazer Nash'. So when did anyone see a car that old going that fast on the public highway and passing them? W E S L A K E 1330 - a lot better than Vauxhall Vectra 1.8 From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 26 16:06:40 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:06:40 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker Message-ID: Maybe the Madness stopped for him? In a message dated 23/07/2008 10:14:55 GMT Daylight Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: what ever happened to Montana Bob...? From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 26 17:11:40 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:11:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End In-Reply-To: <488B31D8.25694.18C1074@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <> WHEN did the french get dragged into the "Holy Sprite" move, Dave???? LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 16:20:56 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> <04c401c8ef6a$b1dcab60$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <009901c8ef6d$e0b45ed0$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, Charley, I thought this list was for car people - not old perverts! If I would have known, I would have linked to a photo of the thong. And, yes, you damn betcha I got a pic. Hell, even Trish Lieb got one. Seriously, I think she (the thong girl, not Trish) should make an "appearance" at every car show. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Charley Braum To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show Ha - we get a link to wikipedia for the car and a written description of the blonde-in-thong. I am depressed! C B From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 16:46:36 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:46:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] W E S L A K E holiday - very old LBC Content References: Message-ID: <45290B389D7B41D5BDDAB8B042AE3B30@DBKF4T81> A local gentleman is the proud owner of a 1924 3L Bentley, which he drives. It's not as if he abuses the car but he certainly doesn't baby it by any stretch of the imagination. I don't know if he routinely passes anyone but he does tend to keep up with traffic. A few years ago one of the con rods let go, dismembering the crankshaft. He sent the pieces off to the UK, waited patiently, came up with a rather large amount of money, had the engine reassembled and resumed driving the vehicle. That's one of the fun things about attending the All British Field Meets in Bellevue, Washington, and Portland, Oregon ... seeing vintage cars moving on down the highways and byways. (Well, in one situation, the term "moving" is relative. There is this one enthusiast who routinely drives down from Vancouver BC in an original Austin 7 and proudly proclaims to have done so "at glacial speed".) ----- Original Message ----- From: > As he passed me the make of the car was on the back of it and I was no > longer > surprised - 'Frazer Nash'. So when did anyone see a car that old going > that > fast on the public highway and passing them? From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Jul 26 17:12:08 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:12:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections In-Reply-To: <00c501c8eed5$c6effb00$01fea8c0@C600> References: <87228.75845.qm@web62501.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <4F222DB0BDA64C54B8DF62A3E6CE1C54@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <55A4AC4E-05F1-40C5-B813-7D5116CEB827@mac.com> <78226944-E1DD-4B02-B0AE-45C64CB1F49C@valentinephoto.net> <003401c8ee5d$c0003f30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <25AA9BA4-3CAB-4788-8C7D-C109CCA61F35@mac.com> <0BDB61D4-35EF-4565-A989-EC2B7AC69BF0@mac.com> <00c501c8eed5$c6effb00$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: Thanks Kate. Will put that in the mix. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 25, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Kate wrote: > I'm still willing to take it from Elko to SLC, providing the schedule > doesn't interfere with my surgery. Gas donations not necessary, > but would > be most welcome. > > Kate > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Reset Update Holy Sprite Road Trip > Connections > > >> We now have a complete link from CO to NJ. The barren west from >> Sacramento to CO still needs closing. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 26 17:16:16 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:16:16 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] My Midget in a photo shoot Message-ID: You'd have thought they'd have worn skirts... Ed In a message dated 24/07/2008 04:20:40 GMT Daylight Time, stevenm at optonline.net writes: Last weekend, my Midget was used in a photo shoot in upstate NY. Take a look! http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photo_shoot/ From cciaffone at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 17:26:27 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:26:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Window Sticker, take II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <488BB2A3.6080609@verizon.net> Most of us are here: http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=41738181602073&mode=tlist&subject=97 and here: http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=41738181602073&mode=tlist&subject=110 Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 23/07/2008 05:51:11 GMT Daylight Time, > b-evans at earthlink.net writes: > > My one regret is that more Sprite and Midget owners in the Mother Country of > England have not discovered and joined our group. From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jul 26 17:30:03 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:30:03 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? References: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: Whilst you are playing around :-) make sure the brakes aren't a bit stiff or catching on one side stopping the wheel from turning freely. If you can turn that wheel Back end up on jackstands, engine off. If you are in gear and not turning the engine over the other wheel should rotate in the opposite direction the same distance you are turning one rear wheel. If the back end is up then stuff a long screwdriver through the u/j to jam it up and turn either wheel by hand. Any movement in MUST equal movement out (if everything is working properly). If the drive shaft is allowed to turn, dependant on the friction generated in the gearbox either the drive shaft will rotate or the other wheel will rotate or they both will. If you are driving the rear axle with the engine you may just get movement on one side but that shows there is either a friction problem with the side that isn't turning or, the diff or other side halfshaft isn't working as it should. That side shouldn't be able to move freely, the diff should supply some drive to it. Try braking the wheel on the drivers side (use a long piece of wood as a lever against the tyre tread - but be careful!) and the drive should go to the other side. If the engine is just ticking over in 1st gear you should be able to stop and hold the drivers side wheel with gloved hands and see the other side turn. If that happens fairly freely - no problem. All the best Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Pazur" To: "Team Thicko" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? >I just completed putting another halfshaft in. I put the wheels on, left it >on > the jacsktands, started it up and put it in gear. In both 1st and Reverse, > only the driver's side wheel turns. Is this normal? I never noticed it > before, > or if I did as far as I can remember. The passenger side wheel is not > stuck; I > can turn it easily in both directions while the driver's side wheel is > turning > in gear. I did nothing to the diff except clean it out w/ gasoline. > Thanks. > > Bud Pazur From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 26 17:35:37 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:35:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <110FECBBF0A54EA186CB1C5E2DA667CB@midget> I posted a few of my snaps from the Micro Car Show in a gallery at http://spridgets.photoshop.com From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 18:09:31 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <110FECBBF0A54EA186CB1C5E2DA667CB@midget> Message-ID: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> WE ALL SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND NOT ONE OF THE GIRL???????? --- On Sat, 7/26/08, David Lieb wrote: > From: David Lieb > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 6:35 PM > I posted a few of my snaps from the Micro Car Show in a > gallery at > http://spridgets.photoshop.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 18:13:34 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:13:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> I'm thinking we should send David's photo (better than mine) to Frank and have him sell copies to you guys to pay for the Padre's Bugeye. Don't you just love the irony of that? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show WE ALL SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND NOT ONE OF THE GIRL???????? --- On Sat, 7/26/08, David Lieb wrote: > From: David Lieb > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 6:35 PM > I posted a few of my snaps from the Micro Car Show in a > gallery at > http://spridgets.photoshop.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From biffjones at verizon.net Sat Jul 26 18:16:14 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:16:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry> <110FECBBF0A54EA186CB1C5E2DA667CB@midget> Message-ID: <01d401c8ef7d$fc0d7530$2f01a8c0@dell1> Nice pictures of the cars David, now post Trish's snaps. Anon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show >I posted a few of my snaps from the Micro Car Show in a gallery at > http://spridgets.photoshop.com From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jul 26 18:23:05 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:23:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up In-Reply-To: <58E47644-E331-4092-91A4-61C460BA1D84@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <000201c8ef7e$f08d77e0$1002a8c0@TRACY> OK so now I have a serviceable tank again. I boiled it on the BBQ twice for about two hours each time. The first time up to the outlet hole, the second with the outlet hole plugged with a wooden cork. The first time it was spic and span on the lower half than did it full and got the rest out. It came really clean. Oh yes I pried off the plastic filter pretty easily. The second time I put the sending unit in and boiled it clean while I was a BBQing. The goo (varnish) came out with a good high power water rise from the garden hose. Thanks for the suggestions. I will just run external filters and not treat the tank with any slosh or caustics. It has a nice black paint job to boot. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of K. Valentine Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:14 AM To: Brad Fornal Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel tank restoration and fuel pick-up On Jul 26, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Frank always fills them with water, puts them on the grill, and > BBQ's them > for a couple of hours, to boil the mung off the bottom. > > This is NOT a joke!!! I've done at least 4 tanks this way. Works great! I've also used Castrol Superclean (the purple stuff) full strength to remove varnish. I let it soak in the tank a few days, sloshing it whenever I walked by. I used a garden hose to rinse the tank after the soaking. The tank got amazingly clean. This was on a tank that sat with 3 gallons of gas for about 15 years. The last tank I cleaned I put in my electrolytic tank........ It came out like new ;) I never coat the inside with anything. Once they are clean inside - they stay clean inside if you fill them with gas and drive the car ;) Kevin V. You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 26 18:27:25 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:27:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <09C128A7D75745F887ED8DDEF2CECEB1@midget> > WE ALL SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND NOT ONE OF THE GIRL???????? Actually, there was a shot of her in one of the Amphicar pictures. Maybe you should get your eyes checked? I have since added another one with Larry and me in the picture, too (hint: the Berkeley is in there, too). Trish took it, so I am not in trouble. Reminds me of the infamous "Pinto shot" in Hot Rod Magazine... One issue had a B&W picture of a Pinto with the bonnet up, showing off the chrome header. The next month they pointed out the fact that there was a nude woman walking by in the background of that photo. No one had noticed ;-) At any rate, no one complained... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 26 18:29:50 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:29:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <006a01c8ef64$ed254570$6401a8c0@Larry><110FECBBF0A54EA186CB1C5E2DA667CB@midget> <01d401c8ef7d$fc0d7530$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <84902FE17C674C8A9D13AB73D3323EB3@midget> > Nice pictures of the cars David, now post Trish's snaps. I have added four shots from Trish's set. She was going to just let me do the photography, but I pointed out to her that her composition is beeter than mine, so she took a few. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 26 19:00:53 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 20:00:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <09C128A7D75745F887ED8DDEF2CECEB1@midget> Message-ID: <3447702365894A15807414471F2DD72E@midget> > Actually, there was a shot of her in one of the Amphicar pictures. Maybe > you > should get your eyes checked? I have since added another one with Larry > and > me in the picture, too (hint: the Berkeley is in there, too). Trish took > it, > so I am not in trouble. I guess I should get MY eyes checked. The shot with the Berkeley is not the one with Larry and me. Oh well. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 20:12:42 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:12:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807261912t19836f92g1ce85190a19b7386@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I'm thinking we should send David's photo Why would we want a picture of David?? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 20:16:27 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:16:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8de85a9c0807261912t19836f92g1ce85190a19b7386@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01b101c8ef8e$c6f26cf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Uhm, Jethro, I think you missed an important part of that message. Have Elly Mae explain it to you. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jethro (JFoster)" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I'm thinking we should send David's photo Why would we want a picture of David?? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 20:31:40 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:31:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <01b101c8ef8e$c6f26cf0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8de85a9c0807261912t19836f92g1ce85190a19b7386@mail.gmail.com> <01b101c8ef8e$c6f26cf0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807261931o7b3aaf27n7073473f47f0e68e@mail.gmail.com> Looks like it was a very good show, but then I've always been a fan of very small cars (unlike my brothers that are obviously over compensating for something with thier monster dually, long-bed, crew-cab pickups!). Yes, that Berkley does looks real nice! And I got a chuckle from the "I Brake For Fish" sticker on the Amphicar. The blond with the bikini is also in picture 6 of 28. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 26 20:38:43 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:38:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8de85a9c0807261912t19836f92g1ce85190a19b7386@mail.gmail.com> <01b101c8ef8e$c6f26cf0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8de85a9c0807261931o7b3aaf27n7073473f47f0e68e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01d801c8ef91$e3f54ea0$6401a8c0@Larry> The Berkley looks exactly like the one in John Gunnel's "Standard Guide to British Sports Cars" page 48. I really like that car. He will be at our EAA party next Saturday, so I will have to ask him about that. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jethro (JFoster)" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show Looks like it was a very good show, but then I've always been a fan of very small cars (unlike my brothers that are obviously over compensating for something with thier monster dually, long-bed, crew-cab pickups!). Yes, that Berkley does looks real nice! And I got a chuckle from the "I Brake For Fish" sticker on the Amphicar. The blond with the bikini is also in picture 6 of 28. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jul 26 20:44:20 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:44:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show References: <515216.59242.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com><00dd01c8ef7d$9c9fadc0$6401a8c0@Larry><8de85a9c0807261912t19836f92g1ce85190a19b7386@mail.gmail.com><01b101c8ef8e$c6f26cf0$6401a8c0@Larry> <8de85a9c0807261931o7b3aaf27n7073473f47f0e68e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > ... And I got a chuckle from the > "I Brake For Fish" sticker on the Amphicar. That Amphicar had more chuckles on it than horsepower. From the Hummingbird fishfinder on the dash to the rod and reel for an antenna to the fish head on one of the exhaust pipes to the life-preserver on the boot to the paddles and bumper sticker. They had far too much fun with their carboat. I had already left the show and wandered down to the waterfront to look around; Trish and I were on the rocks watching the boats go by... Imagine our surprise when the Amphicar came motoring out of the little harbor! And how appropriate after all the Amphicar comments we had on this List last week ;-) David L From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 22:04:03 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Microcar Show In-Reply-To: <09C128A7D75745F887ED8DDEF2CECEB1@midget> Message-ID: <681109.87044.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So where is the picture of the girl posted. I am wondering because i have never seen any one in Wisconsin with a tan. Most have that nice white complexion like the Canadian girls. There is a lot of them here in Southern California wearing those swim suites. It makes it ruff to drive along the beach road all summer long with crashing your car........LOL. Vigil --- On Sat, 7/26/08, David Lieb wrote: From: David Lieb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show To: soavero at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 5:27 PM > WE ALL SAT THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND NOT ONE OF THE GIRL???????? Actually, there was a shot of her in one of the Amphicar pictures. Maybe you should get your eyes checked? I have since added another one with Larry and me in the picture, too (hint: the Berkeley is in there, too). Trish took it, so I am not in trouble. Reminds me of the infamous "Pinto shot" in Hot Rod Magazine... One issue had a B&W picture of a Pinto with the bonnet up, showing off the chrome header. The next month they pointed out the fact that there was a nude woman walking by in the background of that photo. No one had noticed ;-) At any rate, no one complained... You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 22:25:32 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Berkley In-Reply-To: <01d401c8ef7d$fc0d7530$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <127434.63661.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are 3 of them sitting in a rack in a garage here in California. I think he had 2 four wheelers and one three wheeler. But i could be wrong. I know there was three cars. I gave the guy a box of left over parts i had left over from the one i restored. I owned both models in the past. If your interested i can see if the guy still has them and see if they are for sale. I know he was working on a old american car when i was at the house and he offered all of them to me at that time. Vigil --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Biff Jones wrote: From: Biff Jones Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 5:16 PM Nice pictures of the cars David, now post Trish's snaps. Anon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Microcar Show >I posted a few of my snaps from the Micro Car Show in a gallery at > http://spridgets.photoshop.com You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jul 26 22:30:43 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:30:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... References: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> Message-ID: More questions... On early Bugeyes there were gussets added between the rear axle hump and the rear wheel arches. This was later replaced with a box section support. On those cars with gussets the front hardura mat had two notches cut out to clear the gussets. I have a picture of this type. Question: Is it the case that there are two types of hardura mats? Gusset and non gusset? Also, there was a strap attached to the rear top of the cockpit that tied to the top of the bows when they were in the stowed position. From my photos it looks like a white cotton webbing strp. Was there a buckle on this strap? What did it look like? Finally, What's a good way to duplicate the light "Cumulus Gray" paint for the top bows? From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Jul 26 22:45:41 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:45:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dean Hedin wrote: "Also, there was a strap attached to the rear top of the cockpit that tied to the top of the bows when they were in the stowed position. From my photos it looks like a white cotton webbing strp." Mine is leather and it has a buckle. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Jul 27 00:33:22 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:33:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00ef01c8efb2$aaec5010$00c4f030$@net> So is mine as was the original equip one Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of B- Evans Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 11:46 PM To: 'Dean Hedin'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... Dean Hedin wrote: "Also, there was a strap attached to the rear top of the cockpit that tied to the top of the bows when they were in the stowed position. From my photos it looks like a white cotton webbing strp." Mine is leather and it has a buckle. You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1574 - Release Date: 7/25/2008 4:27 PM From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 27 00:54:38 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:54:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... References: <45D7F215669A47F1A37D832BB0D30C94@blackbox2> Message-ID: <010b01c8efb5$a3deb620$01fea8c0@C600> F-102 Blue is very close. Kate > Finally, What's a good way to duplicate the light "Cumulus Gray" paint for the top bows? From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sun Jul 27 04:49:50 2008 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:49:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... Message-ID: Not being able to find an original strap to hold the sticks in place, I have used a wrist watch band. Works and looks correct. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 27 05:30:50 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:30:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] midget accident update Message-ID: In the UK,after crashing my Sprite, my insurer asked me if I had a preferred body shop so I got to choose the one that does all the work on the car and of course had the correct colour in stock. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 25/07/2008 16:42:50 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com writes: If the car is towed to a body shop (and it will invariably be one that does a lot of insurance claim repairs), you are really at the mercy of the insurance company. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 27 05:32:50 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:32:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Update 2 Holy Sprite Road Trip Connections Message-ID: Is Nuneaton to anywhere in the Midlands of use???? In a message dated 25/07/2008 21:32:45 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: I'm lost. Maybe (for the slow people like me) you could make a diagram > of the route and then other people might see where they could help > out. From apexshot at att.net Sun Jul 27 08:33:14 2008 From: apexshot at att.net (James Coppage) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bug eye Message-ID: <501458.52113.qm@web83703.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Here is a Bug eye washing out running a-14 Datsun with 5 speed and twin webers too much fun engine blew after next race. broke 3 of 4 pistons Jim Coppage [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of IMG_3900 copy.jpg] From bpazur at excel.net Sun Jul 27 10:31:25 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:31:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? References: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <001301c8f007$2f7f5350$8ae767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Everyone - Thanks for all your very helpful replies. The diff passes all the tests recommended, so Mr.White is coming off the jackstands and going for a test drive! Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy R Day" To: "Bud Pazur" ; "Team Thicko" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? > Whilst you are playing around :-) make sure the brakes aren't a bit stiff > or catching on one side stopping the wheel from turning freely. If you can > turn that wheel > > Back end up on jackstands, engine off. If you are in gear and not turning > the engine over the other wheel should rotate in the opposite direction the > same distance you are turning one rear wheel. If the back end is up then > stuff a long screwdriver through the u/j to jam it up and turn either wheel > by hand. Any movement in MUST equal movement out (if everything is working > properly). > > If the drive shaft is allowed to turn, dependant on the friction generated > in the gearbox either the drive shaft will rotate or the other wheel will > rotate or they both will. > > If you are driving the rear axle with the engine you may just get movement > on one side but that shows there is either a friction problem with the side > that isn't turning or, the diff or other side halfshaft isn't working as it > should. That side shouldn't be able to move freely, the diff should supply > some drive to it. Try braking the wheel on the drivers side (use a long > piece of wood as a lever against the tyre tread - but be careful!) and the > drive should go to the other side. If the engine is just ticking over in > 1st gear you should be able to stop and hold the drivers side wheel with > gloved hands and see the other side turn. If that happens fairly freely - > no problem. > > All the best > > Guy R Day From bpazur at excel.net Sun Jul 27 10:37:19 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:37:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SilverStreak/Mickey Clip Message-ID: <001401c8f007$30b27c20$8ae767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> My silver race car and Mickey's front end clip are on their way to their new owner in New Hampshire, as a result of my Ebay sale. A beautiful car, hate to let it go, but go it must. I am managing to include all of Mickey's parts on the car and still leave accesss to the driver's seat in order to drive the car onto the truck ramps. Bud From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jul 27 10:08:03 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:08:03 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? References: <000a01c8ef55$85cd1dd0$36e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> <001301c8f007$2f7f5350$8ae767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Message-ID: <5372105DFE2246ADB2B2C9E13232F7F1@TAIRS> Go for it. All the best. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Pazur" To: "Guy R Day" ; "Team Thicko" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? > > > Everyone - > > Thanks for all your very helpful replies. The diff passes all the tests > recommended, so Mr.White is coming off the jackstands and going for a test > drive! > > Bud > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy R Day" > To: "Bud Pazur" ; "Team Thicko" > ; "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Halfshaft Repair, Now - Diff OK? > > >> Whilst you are playing around :-) make sure the brakes aren't a bit > stiff >> or catching on one side stopping the wheel from turning freely. If you > can >> turn that wheel >> >> Back end up on jackstands, engine off. If you are in gear and not >> turning >> the engine over the other wheel should rotate in the opposite direction > the >> same distance you are turning one rear wheel. If the back end is up then >> stuff a long screwdriver through the u/j to jam it up and turn either > wheel >> by hand. Any movement in MUST equal movement out (if everything is > working >> properly). >> >> If the drive shaft is allowed to turn, dependant on the friction >> generated >> in the gearbox either the drive shaft will rotate or the other wheel will >> rotate or they both will. >> >> If you are driving the rear axle with the engine you may just get >> movement >> on one side but that shows there is either a friction problem with the > side >> that isn't turning or, the diff or other side halfshaft isn't working as > it >> should. That side shouldn't be able to move freely, the diff should > supply >> some drive to it. Try braking the wheel on the drivers side (use a long >> piece of wood as a lever against the tyre tread - but be careful!) and >> the >> drive should go to the other side. If the engine is just ticking over in >> 1st gear you should be able to stop and hold the drivers side wheel with >> gloved hands and see the other side turn. If that happens fairly >> freely - >> no problem. >> >> All the best >> >> Guy R Day From cclabaw at juno.com Sun Jul 27 11:26:35 2008 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:26:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... Message-ID: <20080727.102635.17930.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> I use a pet store nylon cat collar. Black web, 1/2" wide, nice chrome buckle and retainer. Clay L. -- CAWS52803 at aol.com wrote: Not being able to find an original strap to hold the sticks in place, I have used a wrist watch band. Works and looks correct. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click here for free info on arthritis treatment solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nsp3dAdHmt3hMXnqKgoPlDbbc1 zX5qtmxhVmgsroUffwbiE/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 27 15:07:01 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:07:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President In-Reply-To: <488CB624.7010007@cox.net> References: <023201c8f00b$68446b40$81a30644@internetpc> <488CB624.7010007@cox.net> Message-ID: Define "natural born"! :-) He is now a citizen isn't he? ( I don't have a clue . just trying to raise a stink. ED _____ From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of Paul Herder Sent: July 27, 2008 1:54 PM Cc: 9issa at justbrits.com Subject: Re: [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Although "Captain Kirk" was a natural-born American (Kirk was born and raised in Iowa ), William Shatner was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner) making him uneligible to be an American President... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#Qualification.2C _disqualification_and_common_practice Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must: * be a natural-born citizen of the United States; I'm voting for Richard M. Nixon! Vote for a crook you know!! ;^) Paul somewhere near OZ (looking for the wizard) Robert D. Gardner wrote: FINALLY, Someone we can ALL get behind for President! Cheers, Bob in San Diego From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Jul 27 15:26:52 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:26:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... References: Message-ID: <9403BD2D096F47FA96DAEDBBFFB96DFA@blackbox2> Do you think yours is the original leather and buckle? If so, Does your buckle look like any of the buckles shown here: http://www.jontay.com/hardware/metal.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: B- Evans Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye original interior questions... Mine is leather and it has a buckle. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 15:47:41 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <606708.30778.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Not sure of the definition for "Natural born", but maybe Humble Pie could shed some light on the subject... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WAZlf_9ObLg (as long as we're trying to raise a stink) - David --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Robert Duquette wrote: From: Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 4:07 PM Define "natural born"! :-) He is now a citizen isn't he? ( I don't have a clue . just trying to raise a stink. ED _____ From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of Paul Herder Sent: July 27, 2008 1:54 PM Cc: 9issa at justbrits.com Subject: Re: [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Although "Captain Kirk" was a natural-born American (Kirk was born and raised in Iowa ), William Shatner was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner) making him uneligible to be an American President... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#Qualification.2C _disqualification_and_common_practice Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must: * be a natural-born citizen of the United States; I'm voting for Richard M. Nixon! Vote for a crook you know!! ;^) Paul somewhere near OZ (looking for the wizard) Robert D. Gardner wrote: FINALLY, Someone we can ALL get behind for President! Cheers, Bob in San Diego You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 27 17:04:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:04:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President In-Reply-To: References: <023201c8f00b$68446b40$81a30644@internetpc><488CB624.7010007@cox.net> Message-ID: Hmmm! Wrong list ... :( -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: July 27, 2008 5:07 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Define "natural born"! :-) He is now a citizen isn't he? ( I don't have a clue . just trying to raise a stink. ED _____ From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of Paul Herder Sent: July 27, 2008 1:54 PM Cc: 9issa at justbrits.com Subject: Re: [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Although "Captain Kirk" was a natural-born American (Kirk was born and raised in Iowa ), William Shatner was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner) making him uneligible to be an American President... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#Qualification.2C _disqualification_and_common_practice Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must: * be a natural-born citizen of the United States; I'm voting for Richard M. Nixon! Vote for a crook you know!! ;^) Paul somewhere near OZ (looking for the wizard) Robert D. Gardner wrote: FINALLY, Someone we can ALL get behind for President! Cheers, Bob in San Diego You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 27 17:07:23 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:07:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President In-Reply-To: <606708.30778.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <606708.30778.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sounds good to me. _____ From: David Booker [mailto:tncarnut1 at yahoo.com] Sent: July 27, 2008 5:48 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Not sure of the definition for "Natural born", but maybe Humble Pie could shed some light on the subject... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WAZlf_9ObLg (as long as we're trying to raise a stink) - David --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Robert Duquette wrote: From: Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 4:07 PM Define "natural born"! :-) He is now a citizen isn't he? ( I don't have a clue . just trying to raise a stink. ED _____ From: 9issa-bounces at justbrits.com [mailto:9issa-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of Paul Herder Sent: July 27, 2008 1:54 PM Cc: 9issa at justbrits.com Subject: Re: [9issa] Captain Kirk for President Although "Captain Kirk" was a natural-born American (Kirk was born and raised in Iowa ), William Shatner was born in Montreal, Quebec, Canada (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shatner) making him uneligible to be an American President... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States#Qualification.2C _disqualification_and_common_practice Article Two of the Constitution sets the principal qualifications to be eligible for election as President. A Presidential candidate must: * be a natural-born citizen of the United States; I'm voting for Richard M. Nixon! Vote for a crook you know!! ;^) Paul somewhere near OZ (looking for the wizard) Robert D. Gardner wrote: FINALLY, Someone we can ALL get behind for President! Cheers, Bob in San Diego You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 27 17:23:04 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:23:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Captain Kirk for President In-Reply-To: <606708.30778.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Are you suggestion that it means blatantly ripping off Chuck Berry lyrics and playing badly? I assumed it meant having a hairy midwife and no epidural. > Not sure of the definition for "Natural born", but maybe Humble Pie could shed > some light on the subject... http://youtube.com/watch?v=WAZlf_9ObLg From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 27 19:35:41 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:35:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Drive shaft bolts ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080728013542.WYFA1194.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Hi all- I've gone through both my Bentley and Haynes books, and I cannot seem to find the correct nut/bolt combination (4 nuts and bolts) for reattaching the driveshaft to the axle. I recall a conversation a while ago on getting the right grade, just making sure I get the right size and right sequence of washers, lock washers, etc. Any kind of anti seize or thread lock I should look at? Thanks Chris 1966 MKIII Brookfield, WI From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun Jul 27 20:14:13 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] phillips 1/4 28 Message-ID: <50880.72.71.215.159.1217211253.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Can anyone tell me where to buy phillips 1/4 - 28 screws to mount the doors without buying 100 of them? Local sources don't carry them.Also want to buy small quantity of the ones that hold the door hinge to the door. Need 8 (not 100) but can't remember the size. Bolts wont work because I can't get a socket into the hole in the bugeye door, only a screwdriver. Thanks Dick B. in NH From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 27 20:41:00 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Drive shaft bolts ? In-Reply-To: <20080728013542.WYFA1194.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <194600.29111.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I guess I'll learn something here. I just use a locknut, grade 5 bolt, and an AN washer. --- On Sun, 7/27/08, Chris Manuel wrote: > From: Chris Manuel > Subject: [Spridgets] Drive shaft bolts ? > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 8:35 PM > Hi all- > > I've gone through both my Bentley and Haynes books, and > I cannot seem to > find the correct nut/bolt combination (4 nuts and bolts) > for reattaching the > driveshaft to the axle. > > I recall a conversation a while ago on getting the right > grade, just making > sure I get the right size and right sequence of washers, > lock washers, etc. > Any kind of anti seize or thread lock I should look at? > > Thanks > Chris > > 1966 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jul 27 20:48:26 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:48:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Drive shaft bolts ? References: <20080728013542.WYFA1194.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <000b01c8f05c$69221d40$6401a8c0@personal> Think they are grade 5 with nylock nuts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 8:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Drive shaft bolts ? > Hi all- > > I've gone through both my Bentley and Haynes books, and I cannot seem to > find the correct nut/bolt combination (4 nuts and bolts) for reattaching > the > driveshaft to the axle. > > I recall a conversation a while ago on getting the right grade, just > making > sure I get the right size and right sequence of washers, lock washers, > etc. > Any kind of anti seize or thread lock I should look at? > > Thanks > Chris > > 1966 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1575 - Release Date: 7/26/2008 4:18 PM From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jul 27 22:40:28 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:40:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] phillips 1/4 28 In-Reply-To: <50880.72.71.215.159.1217211253.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50880.72.71.215.159.1217211253.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <2E84F84B-AFBA-4C6E-96A5-0FA804EA11C0@mac.com> Dick, I have what you need in SS. How many do you need? Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 27, 2008, at 7:14 PM, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Can anyone tell me where to buy phillips 1/4 - 28 screws to mount the > doors without buying 100 of them? Local sources don't carry > them.Also want > to buy small quantity of the ones that hold the door hinge to the > door. > Need 8 (not 100) but can't remember the size. Bolts wont work > because I > can't get a socket into the hole in the bugeye door, only a > screwdriver. > Thanks > Dick B. in NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jul 28 07:35:10 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:35:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] phillips 1/4 28 References: <50880.72.71.215.159.1217211253.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <003c01c8f0b6$c1dbc9e0$6401a8c0@personal> Ace hardware. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] phillips 1/4 28 > Can anyone tell me where to buy phillips 1/4 - 28 screws to mount the > doors without buying 100 of them? Local sources don't carry them.Also want > to buy small quantity of the ones that hold the door hinge to the door. > Need 8 (not 100) but can't remember the size. Bolts wont work because I > can't get a socket into the hole in the bugeye door, only a screwdriver. > Thanks > Dick B. in NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1575 - Release Date: 7/26/2008 4:18 PM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 28 09:01:59 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:01:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] phillips 1/4 28 In-Reply-To: <50880.72.71.215.159.1217211253.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: I get them at the local True Value or Ace Hardware stores. There are also a couple of industrial hardware stores in the neighborhood that have every kind of fastener. You won't find any of that stuff at Home Depot, but any real hardware store should have it. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 28 09:10:20 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:10:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola Message-ID: I read in a car magazine this weekend that an effective way to clean out a radiator is to remove it, lie it flat, fill it with 'cola', leave it overnight, and that you will be amazed at what comes out when you dump it out in the morning. I don't remember which ( June 2008 ) magazine that I read that in. But, I did look at Practical Classics and visiting their website I notice that their August issue has part 2 of an A series gearbox rebuild. Not sure if that a mini, or not. Also, some magazine has a spridget restoration project that they were going to be starting after the June edition. Oh, here ya go ... July 2008 http://www.practicalclassics.co.uk/magazine.php?issue=23&issue_territory=UK From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 28 11:04:23 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:04:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola References: Message-ID: <36E1A8276CF348198941DC568FB09E4C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The weak phosphoric acid in cola will do a bit of work, but to totally kick butt, drink the cola and then pour in "CLR" household cleaner and let it sit overnight. It has a whole lot of what cola has a tiny bit of and will ream out the core very well. Glen >I read in a car magazine this weekend that an effective way to clean out a > radiator is to remove it, lie it flat, fill it with 'cola', leave it > overnight, and that you will be amazed at what comes out when you dump it > out in the morning. I don't remember which ( June 2008 ) magazine that I > read that in. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 28 11:46:12 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:46:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola In-Reply-To: <36E1A8276CF348198941DC568FB09E4C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > drink the cola and then pour in "CLR" Read this twice. Make sure you know which to drink and which too pour. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 28 12:18:00 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:18:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola In-Reply-To: References: <36E1A8276CF348198941DC568FB09E4C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807281118m65d663ccoc6866080a44dc914@mail.gmail.com> So you are the guys who sent this drink information to my idiot husband. Rest assured you'll all be named in the suit. Jim's wife Carolyn in Dodge City On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > drink the cola and then pour in "CLR" > Read this twice. Make sure you know which to drink and which too pour. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jul 28 12:28:53 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:28:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola In-Reply-To: References: <36E1A8276CF348198941DC568FB09E4C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <072820081828.14383.488E0FE50002F8520000382F22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Isn't a-rad who Madonna.is hanging with these days? Also, it's too bad that she doesn't read this list because by the looks of her latest pics, she appears to be confused whether to drink the CLR or the cola. -------------- Original message from Billy Zoom : -------------- > > drink the cola and then pour in "CLR" > Read this twice. Make sure you know which to drink and which too pour. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 28 14:33:20 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:33:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Billy didn't quite say enough, RD!! <> Used to be true about 45 years or better ago, but now just a 'wives tale'. Same thing was done to 'clean' rust off chrome surfaces!!! NOT anymore because it wasn't 'safe' for US!! LOL From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jul 28 14:15:24 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:15:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola References: Message-ID: Seriously, For rust removal on steel (besides gas tanks and radiators) I prefer phosphoric acid. I've been stripping the new Morris project frame and bodyshell of light surface rust and then wiping down with a phosphoric acid primer/prep. NO rust remains to be trapped under the etch-primer and no need to discuss the short-comings of POR15. The phosphoric acid converts the surface rust back to iron and leaves the parts with a mottled black/white finish that can be painted over with primer. Its nice to know that there isn't a patch of rust sleeping under the paint waiting to bloom in the spring. Glen Byrns From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jul 28 15:10:03 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible Top Install Message-ID: <72s2g5$4mfjqq@email.mtu.edu> I am working on installing a convertible top on my '66 Sprite MKIII and have some questions. 1) Snaps. There is a male snap on the windshield frame (at the top L & R corners) that look like they receive female snaps that should be mounted on the vinyl top in the material that forms the window surround toward the front of the car. Nearby on the top frame rail is a hole that I believe once had a snap located there too - both sides. OR are the holes in the top frame rail for something else? 2) This top has a little square of material in the area of the top of the windshield - about 4 inches square - each side. Does that material just get glued to the top frame rail to help close the top corners? My explanation is as clear as mud. I'm guessing responses will be just as difficult to describe. So, if you have some pics of that particular area, I'd appreciate receiving the pics and info. The weather is nice and warm so it is good for installing tops. 3) What's a good way to secure the two part snap if you don't have the special tool to crimp the rivet? Or, is it best to farm out the snap installs? Thanks Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jul 28 16:28:29 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:28:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible Top Install In-Reply-To: <72s2g5$4mfjqq@email.mtu.edu> References: <72s2g5$4mfjqq@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> At 04:10 PM 7/28/2008, Timothy H. Collins wrote: And I snipped a bunch of it off.... >My explanation is as clear as mud. I'm guessing responses will be >just as difficult to describe. So, if you have some pics of that >particular area, I'd appreciate receiving the pics and info. The >weather is nice and warm so it is good for installing tops. =============== My question is this. If you install a top when it is nice and warm and sunny, so you can stretch it, what happens when it's not so nice and warm and sunny, which is when you will want to use it? Haven't you made it more difficult to get it to fit? I know it will look a little loose when it IS nice and warm and sunny, but heck, it shouldn't be UP then. Just sayin' Peter C. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jul 28 18:16:55 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:16:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible Top Install In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> References: <72s2g5$4mfjqq@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> Message-ID: I made this exact mistake. Mine fits quite nice when it is warm and sunny, but is a bear to put up and get all the connections/snaps done when it is cool and wet. Now I hardly ever put it up, mostly when raining and I am not driving (I usually set the hard top on then, so I do not have to put it up), but rain brings cool air and the top no fit. Which alos precludes using it, Even tho the SU wants it up. I do not really remember the last time I had the top up, I know it was snowy as I made a small rip with the snow brush/scraper. Larry On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:28 PM, Peter C wrote: > At 04:10 PM 7/28/2008, Timothy H. Collins wrote: And I snipped a > bunch of it off.... > >> My explanation is as clear as mud. I'm guessing responses will be >> just as difficult to describe. So, if you have some pics of that >> particular area, I'd appreciate receiving the pics and info. The >> weather is nice and warm so it is good for installing tops. > =============== > My question is this. If you install a top when it is nice and warm > and sunny, so you can stretch it, what happens when it's not so nice > and warm and sunny, which is when you will want to use it? Haven't > you made it more difficult to get it to fit? I know it will look a > little loose when it IS nice and warm and sunny, but heck, it > shouldn't be UP then. > > Just sayin' > > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Jul 28 18:36:51 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:36:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola Message-ID: <072920080036.2705.488E66230007A7E800000A912216525806C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Well guess what? It is the phosphoric acid in coca cola that makes it so effective as a cleaner. 8^) --David C. WOULD A FLY WITHOUT WINGS BE CALLED A WALK? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Glen Byrns" > Seriously, > > For rust removal on steel (besides gas tanks and radiators) I prefer > phosphoric acid. I've been stripping the new Morris project frame and > bodyshell of light surface rust and then wiping down with a phosphoric acid > primer/prep. NO rust remains to be trapped under the etch-primer and no > need to discuss the short-comings of POR15. The phosphoric acid converts > the surface rust back to iron and leaves the parts with a mottled > black/white finish that can be painted over with primer. Its nice to know > that there isn't a patch of rust sleeping under the paint waiting to bloom > in the spring. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jul 28 20:15:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:15:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible Top Install In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <> a BINGO for PPP !!! BUT only in weather temps of 50 degree F or less!! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 28 19:21:45 2008 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:21:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] a rad cola References: <36E1A8276CF348198941DC568FB09E4C@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <9EF1B456B92842628F62EE8F563DAFAE@blackbox2> That CLR stuff is just the ticket... http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=81915&aid=336064&aparam=clr%20cleaner&scinit1=clr%20cleaner Thanks for the tip Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] a rad cola > The weak phosphoric acid in cola will do a bit of work, but to totally kick > butt, drink the cola and then pour in "CLR" household cleaner and let it sit > overnight. It has a whole lot of what cola has a tiny bit of and will ream > out the core very well. > > Glen From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 19:41:31 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Kevin Kay restorations Message-ID: <494810.40094.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone familiar with Kevin Kay Restorations in Redding, CA? Tell me something google doesn't... Ron From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 21:02:33 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Kevin Kay restorations In-Reply-To: <494810.40094.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <177089.95717.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, I really do not know much about the Kevin Kay shop. He had a Aston Martin at the Pebble Beach meet when i attended a few years back. It was a fine example - i do not remember what place he took if any. I had never heard of him before then and have not heard the name until your post. As you know - Being a AAA meet all the cars at Pebble are pretty out standing restorations. The only reason i even noticed the name is he was parked next to my friends American Austin. My friends car took first in his class. I never talked to Kevin - so i can not tell you any thing more about him. Sorry i can not help more, Vigil From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] Kevin Kay restorations To: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 6:41 PM Anyone familiar with Kevin Kay Restorations in Redding, CA? Tell me something google doesn't... Ron You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 21:11:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Time flies.... Message-ID: <795304.75648.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Happy 2nd anniversary to the Buster Cluster! From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 28 21:27:31 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:27:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block Message-ID: <488E8E23.3050903@comcast.net> My son has his magazine debut. The write up in August issue of Performance VW is called "Totally Frank" And it's all about his not quite stock 78 Rabbit he restored last year. And he even mentions me and my Sprites as his inspiration! Yeah, I'm a proud pop. I guess I taught him well, maybe too well. He beats me with my own car at the auto cross, now he gets in a magazine at age 29, I was well into my 40s when I made British Car mag. He is also selling his Mini if anybody wants a good driver. Never had rust. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 28 21:28:15 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:28:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Time flies.... In-Reply-To: <795304.75648.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <795304.75648.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <488E8E4F.7060008@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Happy 2nd anniversary to the Buster Cluster! > _______________________________________________ > > So let's do it again. The Holy Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jul 28 22:07:55 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:07:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block In-Reply-To: <488E8E23.3050903@comcast.net> References: <488E8E23.3050903@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1118E9DF-0176-40C6-8838-48C19B63DA9F@mac.com> Congratulations Frank. The buttons on your shirt must be about to pop off. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > My son has his magazine debut. > The write up in August issue of Performance VW is called "Totally > Frank" > And it's all about his not quite stock 78 Rabbit he restored last > year. > And he even mentions me and my Sprites as his inspiration! > Yeah, I'm a proud pop. I guess I taught him well, maybe too well. > He beats me with my own car at the auto cross, now he gets in a > magazine > at age 29, I was well into my 40s when I > made British Car mag. > He is also selling his Mini if anybody wants a good driver. Never > had rust. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jul 28 22:32:34 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:32:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite Message-ID: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Hello Folks, First Bud and Glen let me know if I have incorrectly understood the dates that you can be ready. As of now the tentative start date for me to leave is Aug 6 - - this is subject to change depending if the contractor working in my back yard finishes on schedule. Below are the current links, estimated round trip mileages, persons that have stepped forward to make this happen. As you will notice there are several long links. If anyone can help reduce these or if you can provide a place to spend a night it would really be appreciated. I am currently doing most of the west only because there were gaps between the folks who are willing to help in this section. Round Trip Distance From To Name 152 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up trailer at Busters 846 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up car at Glens 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer - - I hope Kate is at home 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer 504 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes 1274 Denver, CO Des Moines, IA Jim Johnson 1126 Des Moines, IA Toledo OH David Lieb 462 Toledo OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn 424 Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum 342 Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine No I will not be doing round trips on each section but I do have to get back at some point :-) Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 28 22:52:19 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:52:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <00ce01c8f136$e2853d90$01fea8c0@C600> I should find out tomorrow when my surgery will be scheduled. If I am not at home, my place is very easy to find and I will send you directions. There is a brand new mattress and clean sheets in the motor home. Cold beer and assorted sodas are always available in the garage fridge. Grab something out of the freezer (I recommend the pork chops. They are especially tender.) and tell Charlie next door that he needs to BBQ. Take out enough for Charlie and his brother as well as your party and he will be delighted to show off his cooking skills and talk your ears off bragging about the MGA he used to own. Kate > 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer - - I hope Kate is at home > 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Jul 28 23:20:10 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:20:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <00ce01c8f136$e2853d90$01fea8c0@C600> References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <00ce01c8f136$e2853d90$01fea8c0@C600> Message-ID: <8A1E207000CA4E7486BED21E7F6A41BD@BEvans> Kate wrote: "There is a brand new mattress and clean sheets in the motor home. Cold beer and assorted sodas are always available in the garage fridge. Grab something out of the freezer (I recommend the pork chops. They are especially tender.) and tell Charlie next door that he needs to BBQ" Congratulations! You have just managed to "invite" the entire Spridget newsgroup who now know how and where to find a free crash pad and lots of free food! Soon, that information will make its way to every hobo jungle west of the Mississippi and if you are home, there will be a line at your back door. If, perchance, you are not there, do not worry. They all know where to find the grub and sack. Buster From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 23:28:51 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block Message-ID: <401197.97593.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank, You should be as proud as the day he came into the world. Sure is nice when they turn out OK. It lets you know you did OK raising them. I mean - look - He could have turned out like ED just Brits - LOL OOOPs - Did i say that? He may be right - may be i am not a nice guy - lol Cheers, Vigil --- On Mon, 7/28/08, Frank Clarici wrote: From: Frank Clarici Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block To: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, July 28, 2008, 8:27 PM My son has his magazine debut. The write up in August issue of Performance VW is called "Totally Frank" And it's all about his not quite stock 78 Rabbit he restored last year. And he even mentions me and my Sprites as his inspiration! Yeah, I'm a proud pop. I guess I taught him well, maybe too well. He beats me with my own car at the auto cross, now he gets in a magazine at age 29, I was well into my 40s when I made British Car mag. He is also selling his Mini if anybody wants a good driver. Never had rust. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 29 00:00:38 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:00:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <00ce01c8f136$e2853d90$01fea8c0@C600> <8A1E207000CA4E7486BED21E7F6A41BD@BEvans> Message-ID: <00f401c8f140$6d9177b0$01fea8c0@C600> Good! I welcome lines at my back door. Murphy, my 170# Anatolian shepherd eats a lot, as do the two rottweilers. Spridgeteers, on the other hand, are welcome anytime. Kate Soon, that information will make its way to every hobo jungle west of the Mississippi and if you are home, there will be a line at your back door. If, perchance, you are not there, do not worry. They all know where to find the grub and sack. Buster From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jul 29 00:14:50 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:14:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <02d101c8f142$69732af0$4e947e4c@HP> Hi Bob I wish we could help but we are booked solid till the 2nd week of September. Should you need a place to crash (or whatever) on the way to Glen's you know where we live. Larry & Sandi Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite > Hello Folks, > > First Bud and Glen let me know if I have incorrectly understood the > dates that you can be ready. > > As of now the tentative start date for me to leave is Aug 6 - - this > is subject to change depending if the contractor working in my back > yard finishes on schedule. > > Below are the current links, estimated round trip mileages, persons > that have stepped forward to make this happen. As you will notice > there are several long links. If anyone can help reduce these or if > you can provide a place to spend a night it would really be > appreciated. I am currently doing most of the west only because > there were gaps between the folks who are willing to help in this > section. > > Round Trip > Distance From To Name > 152 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up trailer at > Busters > 846 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up car at Glens > 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer - - I hope Kate is at home > 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer > 504 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes > 1274 Denver, CO Des Moines, IA Jim Johnson > 1126 Des Moines, IA Toledo OH David Lieb > 462 Toledo OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn > 424 Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum > 342 Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine > > No I will not be doing round trips on each section but I do have to > get back at some point :-) > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 00:23:23 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:23:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807282323m49a61c92ne0665d9cffcdd76c@mail.gmail.com> A little news from the high plains leg... Mike Osipik, president of the Kansas City Austin Healey Club, was on the phone today with me and the Club will transport from Topeka, KS to Des Moines, IA. I will haul from Denver to Topeka. We need rough dates.... How are we coming with the title situation Glen? Also, Mike mentioned that the KC Healey crew would gladly schedule a work day (a Holy SHIT) if desired. Don't know how this might shake out, but its a great offer from a lot of really great people along the way.... Cheers!! Jim Johnson Dodge City, Kansas On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Hello Folks, > > First Bud and Glen let me know if I have incorrectly understood the > dates that you can be ready. > > As of now the tentative start date for me to leave is Aug 6 - - this > is subject to change depending if the contractor working in my back > yard finishes on schedule. > > Below are the current links, estimated round trip mileages, persons > that have stepped forward to make this happen. As you will notice > there are several long links. If anyone can help reduce these or if > you can provide a place to spend a night it would really be > appreciated. I am currently doing most of the west only because > there were gaps between the folks who are willing to help in this > section. > > Round Trip > Distance From To > Name > 152 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob > Kitterer - - Pick up trailer at > Busters > 846 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA > Bob Kitterer - - Pick up car at Glens > 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV > Bob Kitterer - - I hope Kate is at home > 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO > Bob Kitterer > 504 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO > Mark Haynes > 1274 Denver, CO Des Moines, IA Jim > Johnson > 1126 Des Moines, IA Toledo OH > David Lieb > 462 Toledo OH Pittsburgh, PA > Bud Osbourn > 424 Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA > Charley Braum > 342 Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ > Kevin Valentine > > No I will not be doing round trips on each section but I do have to > get back at some point :-) > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 29 05:30:36 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kevin Kay restorations References: <494810.40094.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Kevin Kay restorations Anyone familiar with Kevin Kay Restorations in Redding, CA? Tell me something google doesn't... Ron _______________________________________________ That's Mary Kay's gay brother. If you want it painted red, it will come back pink - and painted with a lipstick. It will be nearly impossible to get the perfume smell out of the upholstery. But the older ladies will love it. (Note to KK: JUST KIDDING. Please don't sue me.) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 06:58:09 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:58:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block In-Reply-To: <1118E9DF-0176-40C6-8838-48C19B63DA9F@mac.com> References: <488E8E23.3050903@comcast.net> <1118E9DF-0176-40C6-8838-48C19B63DA9F@mac.com> Message-ID: ditto from down South although I fear fro my middle son.. oh the car thing is ok but he wants to be an Attorney.. ;-) Lester On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:07 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Congratulations Frank. > > The buttons on your shirt must be about to pop off. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jul 28, 2008, at 8:27 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > >> My son has his magazine debut. >> The write up in August issue of Performance VW is called "Totally >> Frank" >> And it's all about his not quite stock 78 Rabbit he restored last >> year. >> And he even mentions me and my Sprites as his inspiration! >> Yeah, I'm a proud pop. I guess I taught him well, maybe too well. >> He beats me with my own car at the auto cross, now he gets in a >> magazine >> at age 29, I was well into my 40s when I >> made British Car mag. >> He is also selling his Mini if anybody wants a good driver. Never >> had rust. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 29 06:58:54 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:58:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah Message-ID: <1535049547.20080729055854@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND POOBAH of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members that he is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jul 29 07:22:34 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:22:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <000001c8f17e$29c4dd40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Bob, Somehow, there is a "missing link" in Ohio. Last time I checked, John Kuzman was going to meet David, and bring the car to Zanesville/Cambridge Ohio to meet me. I would then meet Charley Braun somewhere east of Pittsburgh. In early August, I'm tied up on the 9th, but free most other days. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 11:33 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite Hello Folks, First Bud and Glen let me know if I have incorrectly understood the dates that you can be ready. As of now the tentative start date for me to leave is Aug 6 - - this is subject to change depending if the contractor working in my back yard finishes on schedule. Below are the current links, estimated round trip mileages, persons that have stepped forward to make this happen. As you will notice there are several long links. If anyone can help reduce these or if you can provide a place to spend a night it would really be appreciated. I am currently doing most of the west only because there were gaps between the folks who are willing to help in this section. Round Trip Distance From To Name 152 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up trailer at Busters 846 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer - - Pick up car at Glens 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer - - I hope Kate is at home 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer 504 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes 1274 Denver, CO Des Moines, IA Jim Johnson 1126 Des Moines, IA Toledo OH David Lieb 462 Toledo OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn 424 Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum 342 Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine No I will not be doing round trips on each section but I do have to get back at some point :-) Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 07:07:20 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:07:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chip off the ole block In-Reply-To: References: <488E8E23.3050903@comcast.net> <1118E9DF-0176-40C6-8838-48C19B63DA9F@mac.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910807290607k6bf3442bu4dd58f4056821960@mail.gmail.com> I fear for you if you feel it necessary to capitalize the "A" in attorney. On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Lester wrote: > ditto from down South although I fear fro my middle son.. oh the car > thing is ok but he wants to be an Attorney.. ;-) > > Lester From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 07:10:33 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <1535049547.20080729055854@pacifier.com> References: <1535049547.20080729055854@pacifier.com> Message-ID: He is the leader of Lodge 26, IIRC.... On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND POOBAH > of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. > > i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members that he > is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 29 07:47:15 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:47:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End In-Reply-To: <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> <58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net> <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: On Jul 26, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > OK, Between Bud - Toledo/Detroit to Pittsburgh > > Charley - Pittsburgh to Harrisburg > > Kevin - Harrisburg to Tom's River Charley, I'll be away Aug. 8, 9 and 10. We can coordinate when we know more. Kevin From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 08:04:05 2008 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <1535049547.20080729055854@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Jim is the Grand Poobah, Big Kahoona, Sir Spridget, El Presidente, aka "The Man".... --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bill L wrote: From: Bill L Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:58 AM Hello Spridgets, i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND POOBAH of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members that he is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 29 08:15:33 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:15:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <43840a7e0807282323m49a61c92ne0665d9cffcdd76c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Holy Spirite sits ready to go. Frank says he will deal with the title issue so it can leave any day and skip its date with the CA CHP. I'm not sure if Frank's solution involves a nailgun or not, but why quibble? Glen .... > > How are we coming with the title situation Glen? From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 29 08:18:19 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:18:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <43840a7e0807282323m49a61c92ne0665d9cffcdd76c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080729091716.03a0a008@nosimport.com> Glen, Can we see a picture? I'm somewhat north of the proposed route, so I wont see it go by. Peter C. === At 09:15 AM 7/29/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: >The Holy Spirite sits ready to go. Frank says he will deal with the title >issue so it can leave any day and skip its date with the CA CHP. I'm not >sure if Frank's solution involves a nailgun or not, but why quibble? > >Glen > >.... > > > > How are we coming with the title situation Glen? >_______________________________________________ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 29 08:18:35 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:18:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: Ever tell a joke and nobody gets it? I've been spelling it "SpIrite", pronounced spear-ite. You know, "moved by the Holy Spirite", Oh well... Glen From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 29 08:28:13 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:28:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080729092503.03b10e78@nosimport.com> At 09:18 AM 7/29/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: >Ever tell a joke and nobody gets it? I've been spelling it "SpIrite", >pronounced spear-ite. You know, "moved by the Holy Spirite", Oh well... > >Glen ===== I'm a strong advocate of the separation of Church and Sprite. But, be that as it may, I have been known to utter "Holy" followed by some epithets..... Peter C From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 08:34:05 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:34:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy SpIrite References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: > Ever tell a joke and nobody gets it? I've been spelling it "SpIrite", > pronounced spear-ite. You know, "moved by the Holy Spirite", Oh well... Unfortunately(?) we expect spelling errors on this List, so the eye filter auto-corrects and ignores, trying to cut through to the underlying message. How about a belated ha ha? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 29 09:06:46 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:06:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget front end accident repair found on line Message-ID: I found some car porn by accident, if anyone is interested: http://www.eclecticmotorworks.com/ The links are midway down on the right side of the page. ( there's also one of a supercharger install ) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 09:13:32 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:13:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> To make it official: i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. do I hear a second? On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:04 AM, John Kuzman wrote: > Jim is the Grand Poobah, Big Kahoona, Sir Spridget, El Presidente, > aka "The Man".... > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bill L wrote: > > From: Bill L > Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:58 AM > > Hello Spridgets, > > i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND POOBAH > of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. > > i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members that he > is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. > You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 09:16:43 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:16:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> <58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net> <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <083001c8f18e$1cde4d40$6401a8c0@universal1> One last question (HA)! Since the expected time frame for the big move has shifted a few times, is it going to be OK to let this thing sit for a day or so between hand-offs??? I have a project scheduled that SHOULD have me back home by 09, 10 Aug and Kevin, downstream from me, might not be available until 11, 12Aug. Therefore, again, is it OK for the Holy SpIrite to have a day of rest? ----------------------- "Can we see a picture" I would hope that everyone is planning to take photos at any opportunity during the trip! People and tow vehicles would be a nice addition (in some cases!). CB ps: If Father Jack ever gets ahold of copies of these e-mails - we're all doomed!!!! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 09:23:18 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:23:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: SECOND On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Lester wrote: > To make it official: > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > do I hear a second? > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:04 AM, John Kuzman wrote: > > > Jim is the Grand Poobah, Big Kahoona, Sir Spridget, El Presidente, > > aka "The Man".... > > > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bill L wrote: > > > > From: Bill L > > Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:58 AM > > > > Hello Spridgets, > > > > i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND POOBAH > > of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. > > > > i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members that he > > is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. > > You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tinydog at snet.net Tue Jul 29 09:23:27 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:23:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <072920081523.29791.488F35EF000915EF0000745F22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: >From Wikipedia: "The expression "The Grand PooBah" is believed to have first been introduced on television in the show The Flintstones. Fred Flintstone and his friend Barney Rubblewere members of the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes Lodge No. 26. A highranking elected position within this organization is Grand Poobah orGrand Imperial Poobah." -------------- Original message from Lester : -------------- > To make it official: > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > do I hear a second? gets From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 09:41:55 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 08:41:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com>, <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net>, Message-ID: <488ED7D3.26078.5FF0BA@dmg.bossig.com> I'll 'second' that 'SECOND'... That'll make it 'square' all round.... just like my Sprite!! On 29 Jul 2008 at 10:23, Brad Fornal wrote: >> SECOND -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 09:42:47 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:42:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <072920081523.29791.488F35EF000915EF0000745F22216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <0088437A44A74E2F93E43A82BC8A482C@NilesAD.von.gov> >>From Wikipedia: > "The expression "The Grand PooBah" is believed to have first been > introduced on television in the show The Flintstones. Fred Flintstone and > his friend Barney Rubble were members of the Loyal Order of Water > Buffaloes Lodge No. 26. A highranking elected position within this > organization is Grand Poobah orGrand Imperial Poobah." OTOH, the concept was swiped wholesale from the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta "The Mikado" from 1885, wherein one of the characters was named Pooh Bah and was "lord high everything else" (Koko, as lord high executioner rounded out the roster of public officials). From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 29 09:44:35 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:44:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah Message-ID: <8038734.1580051217346275431.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web22-z02> would he be required to wear a big blue hat while driving? Chris ---- tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog sez: > > > > >From Wikipedia: > "The expression "The Grand PooBah" is believed to have first been introduced on television in the show The Flintstones. Fred Flintstone and his friend Barney Rubblewere members of the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes Lodge No. 26. A highranking elected position within this organization is Grand Poobah orGrand Imperial Poobah." -------------- Original message from Lester : -------------- > > > > To make it official: > > > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > > > do I hear a second? > gets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 09:58:20 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:58:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thus endeth the discussion, a motion had been made and seconded. All those in favor vote aye. Lester On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > SECOND > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Lester > wrote: > To make it official: > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > do I hear a second? > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:04 AM, John Kuzman wrote: > > > Jim is the Grand Poobah, Big Kahoona, Sir Spridget, El Presidente, > > aka "The Man".... > > > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bill L wrote: > > > > From: Bill L > > Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:58 AM > > > > Hello Spridgets, > > > > i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND > POOBAH > > of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. > > > > i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members > that he > > is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 09:58:56 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:58:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <8038734.1580051217346275431.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web22-z02> References: <8038734.1580051217346275431.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web22-z02> Message-ID: With Water Buffalo Horns!! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, wrote: > would he be required to wear a big blue hat while driving? > > Chris > > ---- tinydog at snet.net wrote: > > tinydog sez: > > > > > > > > >From Wikipedia: > > "The expression "The Grand PooBah" is believed to have first been > introduced on television in the show The Flintstones. Fred Flintstone and > his friend Barney Rubblewere members of the Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes > Lodge No. 26. A highranking elected position within this organization is > Grand Poobah orGrand Imperial Poobah." -------------- Original message from > Lester : -------------- > > > > > > > To make it official: > > > > > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > > > > > do I hear a second? > > gets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 09:59:10 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:59:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: AYE On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Lester wrote: > Thus endeth the discussion, a motion had been made and seconded. All > those in favor vote aye. > > Lester > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > SECOND > > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Lester > > wrote: > > To make it official: > > > > i move that we formalize Jim as Grand Poobah. > > > > do I hear a second? > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 9:04 AM, John Kuzman wrote: > > > > > Jim is the Grand Poobah, Big Kahoona, Sir Spridget, El Presidente, > > > aka "The Man".... > > > > > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Bill L wrote: > > > > > > From: Bill L > > > Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah > > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:58 AM > > > > > > Hello Spridgets, > > > > > > i got a letter from Jim Johnson DENYING that he is the GRAND > > POOBAH > > > of Sprite Midget Club USA... .. > > > > > > i'm looking for some sort of declaration from other members > > that he > > > is indeed the title holder of that office, if it indeed exists..! > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > > > Don't believe everything you hear or anything you say. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 10:36:02 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:36:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: Aye From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 29 10:41:54 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:41:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Crisis - PLEASE HELP! In-Reply-To: References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <488F4852.6090205@frontiernet.net> Jim Coppage is on his way to my house from somewhere in CA. He just sent me his phone numbers, but my laptop ate the email before I could write them down. I need to call and give him my phone number adn directions to the house. Can anyone help? Thanks, Kate From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 10:45:47 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:45:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy SpIrite In-Reply-To: References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807290945qa582b3ewbc82ea6e95526808@mail.gmail.com> Funny. "Splrite" may also be a typo, but I think it must be pronounced something like: "Spell-right", Yes? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 7/29/08, David Lieb wrote: > > > Ever tell a joke and nobody gets it? I've been spelling it "SpIrite", > > pronounced spear-ite. You know, "moved by the Holy Spirite", Oh well... > > Unfortunately(?) we expect spelling errors on this List, so the eye > filter auto-corrects and ignores, trying to cut through to the > underlying message. How about a belated ha ha? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 10:48:17 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:48:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> Aye.. Those opposed please vote by registered USPS mail to the following address: Ed at just brits Not on this planet oranywhere else Mail not received by 11:48 am CDST July 29 will not be accepted. Lester On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:36 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Aye From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 10:50:35 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:50:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> Message-ID: <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> There were no negative votes received by the official close of voting so at this point Jim is now the officially elected Grand PooBah Lester .. and so say we all.. On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Lester wrote: > Aye.. > > > Those opposed please vote by registered USPS mail to the following > address: > > > Ed at just brits > Not on this planet > oranywhere else > > > Mail not received by 11:48 am CDST July 29 will not be accepted. > > Lester > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:36 AM, David Lieb wrote: > >> Aye > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 29 10:52:47 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:52:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End In-Reply-To: <083001c8f18e$1cde4d40$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1> <58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net> <048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> <083001c8f18e$1cde4d40$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:16 AM, Charley Braum wrote: > > I have a project scheduled that SHOULD have me back home by 09, > 10 Aug and Kevin, downstream from me, might not be available until > 11, 12Aug. > > Therefore, again, is it OK for the Holy SpIrite to have a day > of rest? Charley, I don't see any reason it couldn't rest when necessary.... Each hand off will need to be coordinated by the participants of their leg of the journey. For example, I will coordinate with you for a time and place to meet. If it needs to sit at your place overnight (or whatever), I'm sure Frank won't mind. Kevin From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 11:09:22 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:09:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> I am honored, but hasten to point out that "PooBah" is an inherited title and cannot be conferred by election! More on this later, but my vision for the Sprite - Midget Club USA will be a lot less formal. All members will be known as "Presidents" with your local chapter being the cockpit of your Spridget. Seriously, many clubs end up with ego and personality troubles due to some hierarchy of "PooBahs" and I'd very much like to avoid that. I envision a very loose organization communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings. The Holy Sprite project, the BusterCluster, and other OSHIT and SOS projects are cases in point. We didn't need no stinkin' PooBah to make them happen... somebody stepped up and we all pitched in to make it happen! Cheers!! Jim On 7/29/08, Lester wrote: > > There were no negative votes received by the official close of voting > so at this point > > Jim is now the officially elected Grand PooBah > > Lester > > .. and so say we all.. > > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Lester wrote: > > > Aye.. > > > > > > Those opposed please vote by registered USPS mail to the following > > address: > > > > > > Ed at just brits > > Not on this planet > > oranywhere else > > > > > > Mail not received by 11:48 am CDST July 29 will not be accepted. > > > > Lester > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 29, 2008, at 11:36 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > > >> Aye From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 11:12:42 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:12:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net><04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net><08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > More on this later, but my vision for the Sprite - Midget Club USA will be > a > lot less formal. All members will be known as "Presidents" with your local > chapter being the cockpit of your Spridget. Seriously, many clubs end up > with ego and personality troubles due to some hierarchy of "PooBahs" and > I'd > very much like to avoid that. I envision a very loose organization > communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a > title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings. The Holy > Sprite project, the BusterCluster, and other OSHIT and SOS projects are > cases in point. We didn't need no stinkin' PooBah to make them happen... > somebody stepped up and we all pitched in to make it happen! There is something about organized anarchy that has always appealed to me... From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 11:13:24 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:13:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1> "I envision a very loose organization communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings." OK, then who gets blamed, and who will we complain about, when things go right?? CB From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 11:20:03 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net><04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net><08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net><43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> <08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <53E5F960CB074FC1A67D55B6212D014D@NilesAD.von.gov> > OK, then who gets blamed, and who will we complain about, when things > go > right?? I thought the List already had a designated whipping boy? From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 29 11:21:11 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:21:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage Message-ID: This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link below) Kevin V. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.101 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 Or http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 12:35:06 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:35:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <02d101c8f142$69732af0$4e947e4c@HP> References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <02d101c8f142$69732af0$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: Thanks Larry and Sandy, Unless it is a late start from Busters or other unforeseen circumstances I should make Glens in one day - - but you know how that goes. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:14 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > I wish we could help but we are booked solid till the 2nd week of > September. Should you need a place to crash (or whatever) on the > way to Glen's you know where we live. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 12:41:13 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:41:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807282323m49a61c92ne0665d9cffcdd76c@mail.gmail.com> References: <878320E1-F753-412B-AE32-EB0DADD2AD96@mac.com> <43840a7e0807282323m49a61c92ne0665d9cffcdd76c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <348ECE62-7227-44B0-9635-23660A5860E8@mac.com> That is good news Jim. I will plug that into a revised hand off schedule a long with any more input that makes this easier. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > A little news from the high plains leg... Mike Osipik, president > of the Kansas City Austin Healey Club, was on the phone today with > me and the Club will transport from Topeka, KS to Des Moines, IA. > I will haul from Denver to Topeka. We need rough dates.... > > How are we coming with the title situation Glen? > > Also, Mike mentioned that the KC Healey crew would gladly schedule > a work day (a Holy SHIT) if desired. Don't know how this might > shake out, but its a great offer from a lot of really great people > along the way.... > > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Dodge City, Kansas From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 12:54:36 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:54:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <000001c8f17e$29c4dd40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <000001c8f17e$29c4dd40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: Correct, I am look for a way to close that link. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 29, 2008, at 6:22 AM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > Bob, > Somehow, there is a "missing link" in Ohio. Last time I checked, John > Kuzman was going to meet David, and bring the car to > Zanesville/Cambridge Ohio to meet me. I would then meet Charley Braun > somewhere east of Pittsburgh. > In early August, I'm tied up on the 9th, but free most other days. > Bud Osbourne From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jul 29 12:51:50 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:51:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Convertible Top Install In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> References: <72s2g5$4mfjqq@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080728172436.03b66a78@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6t8mot$4e1qk0@email.mtu.edu> A >=============== >My question is this. If you install a top when it is nice and warm >and sunny, so you can stretch it, what happens when it's not so nice >and warm and sunny, which is when you will want to use it? Haven't >you made it more difficult to get it to fit? I know it will look a >little loose when it IS nice and warm and sunny, but heck, it >shouldn't be UP then. > >Just sayin' >Peter C. Good point. I bought the top from VB (9-325-BB) in 1991. It has remained in the box 'til just recently so it needed a bit of warmth to undo the folds and creases accumulated over the years. I am part way through the install and it seems to be going well. Just waiting for contact cement to set up right now. In reality the top probably won't get used much as I only plan to use the car 6 months out of the year. The other 6 months there's too much salt on the road around here in Michigan. Dow Chemical was founded here because of the brine wells. At one point in time, they just filled tankers with brine and poured it on the road. That ensured that the salt got into every nook and cranny in your car. (Has it stopped snowing in Madison, WI yet?) I am finding that putting the convertible top on the Sprite is something like the lady who is wearing last year's tank top and shorts even though she was 30 pounds lighter last summer. If you tug and pull enough you can make it fit and get decent coverage. btw. The convertible top for the Sprite was $149 in 1991 and sells for $314 the last that I looked. Moral: buy the parts you will need in 17 years today. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 12:57:50 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:57:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <53E5F960CB074FC1A67D55B6212D014D@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> <08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1> <53E5F960CB074FC1A67D55B6212D014D@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291157k6206ac4cq83136f6b23586f41@mail.gmail.com> Don't know about a whipping boy, but I thought Ed was the official Scape Goat..... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:20 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > OK, then who gets blamed, and who will we complain about, when things > > go > > right?? > > I thought the List already had a designated whipping boy? > _______________________________________________ From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Tue Jul 29 13:05:37 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:05:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net><08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net><43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com><08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1><53E5F960CB074FC1A67D55B6212D014D@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0807291157k6206ac4cq83136f6b23586f41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003b01c8f1ae$16a69ac0$6401a8c0@Music> He's the "old Goat" I believe... Don't know about a whipping boy, but I thought Ed was the official Scape Goat..... ;-) From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 13:24:44 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:24:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite References: <000001c8f17e$29c4dd40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <08cc01c8f1b0$c20673c0$6401a8c0@universal1> Bob, Bud, John Deikis is in central Michigan just east of Jackson. I think he offered to haul part of the way - give him a shout. He would be nearly equidistant from South Bend, IN and Toledo OH. Later, CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 13:27:56 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:27:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--we are OK References: <1B9FDC27F43F4F4DBD31A7DF8E875799@BEvans> Message-ID: <08e901c8f1b1$368c02f0$6401a8c0@universal1> Glad to hear you're OK. Is Father Jack already pulling strings? If so, tell him to ease up a bit! What's going to happen when the Holy SpIrite gets to tornado country? Again, take care, CB From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 13:37:16 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:37:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291237k282017abo68c6c0caad431e43@mail.gmail.com> Hi Kev, We had a couple minor changes out here... I will pick the Holy Sprite up in Denver and then head east on I-70 to Topeka KS and not across Nebraska. Mike Osipik from the Kansas City Austin Healey Club will pick it up in Topeka and drop in Kansas City. An as yet unnamed club member in Kansas City will take it to Des Moines where David Lieb will pick it up. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:21 PM, K. Valentine wrote: > This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link below) > > Kevin V. > > > > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV > +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH > +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, > +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.101 > 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 > > Or > > http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 13:48:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:48:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage References: <43840a7e0807291237k282017abo68c6c0caad431e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > We had a couple minor changes out here... I will pick the Holy Sprite up > in > Denver and then head east on I-70 to Topeka KS and not across Nebraska. > Mike > Osipik from the Kansas City Austin Healey Club will pick it up in Topeka > and > drop in Kansas City. An as yet unnamed club member in Kansas City will > take > it to Des Moines where David Lieb will pick it up. I am anticipating taking possesion in Des Moines, IA and delivering it to John Kuzman in Indianapolis, IN. John had indicated that he could take it as far as Zanesville or Cambridge, OH to hand off to Bud or? David Lieb From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 13:55:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:55:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <488F134B.25990.1483DC9@dmg.bossig.com> If I may, as a relative 'newbie' to this list, I'd like to make a suggestion. Perhaps a journal could be kept of the Holly Sprite's journey, complete with photos (with signatures) of those taking part and of major places passed through, together with anecdotes and comments from those taking part... I think this would be a tremendous keepsake for the Rev. Father..... If it was ever printed, I would definitely buy a copy ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 14:02:46 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Travels of the Holy Sprite Message-ID: <2A22DE86BC7646F284146F6AE6302D0E@BEvans> May I suggest that a narrative of the Holy Sprite's travels be kept on each leg of the trip, and photographs taken at each handover. Whatever possible can then be passed on at the exchanges to provide an on-going record to show any curious law enforcement officer along the way. Barring that, perhaps they could be posted and handed over at the following exchange. In any event, it would be helpful to post these narratives (and if possible, photos) as the Holy Sprite makes it way across country. Frank, could you provide me with a narrative of the need and how the project all came about? And perhaps Glen could give some background on the shell's history. I believe this would make an incredible news story, and I will pass it all on to Matt Wright and Theo Gillam at Practical Classics. Buster From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 29 14:42:59 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:42:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up References: <55383929066F47C282B4B422FFEFF8AD@BEvans> <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11DD6B3543884FB799530815D9A5E4F8@Larry> Buster, Think of it in terms of "percent chance". Based upon population figures in the latest census we calculated that any given individual has 1 chance in 10 million of being hit by a violent tornado (see: http://www.flame.org/~cdoswell/tor_probs/vtornado_prob.html) Chances of even seeing a tornado are something like 1 in 8 million. (Unless, of course, you are a meteorological researcher and are actively looking for them). The vast majority of people living here in "Tornado Alley" have never even seen a tornado. Also, chances are excellent that you will get a warning to seek cover at least 20 minutes before a tornado could hit you and tornadoes only impact an average of about 3 square miles. For earthquakes however, your chances of experiencing an earthquake, say, somewhere in southern California, are something like 1 in 10. Earthquakes impact thousands of square miles when they occur and *everyone* in that large area experiences it. I'll take my chances with tornadoes any day! Cheers!! Jim =========================== I went through a tornado 35 years ago. Minor damage to my house - windows, chimney and roofing damage. The next house had their garage moved over by about three feet. The next house had the biggest pieces of their garage found 3 blocks away. The next lost the roof and contents from the second floor. The next house... wasn't. Their basement was all that was left. Not fun. Wouldn't want to do it again. LAD From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 14:44:30 2008 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <117814.49399.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> David - It now appears as though the route is I-80, which is too far north of me. I would need to head due north over 200 miles just to hit I-80. I believe that you are now handing off to someone up near Toledo. John Kuzman --- On Tue, 7/29/08, David Lieb wrote: From: David Lieb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage To: "Spridget List" Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:48 PM > We had a couple minor changes out here... I will pick the Holy Sprite up > in > Denver and then head east on I-70 to Topeka KS and not across Nebraska. > Mike > Osipik from the Kansas City Austin Healey Club will pick it up in Topeka > and > drop in Kansas City. An as yet unnamed club member in Kansas City will > take > it to Des Moines where David Lieb will pick it up. I am anticipating taking possesion in Des Moines, IA and delivering it to John Kuzman in Indianapolis, IN. John had indicated that he could take it as far as Zanesville or Cambridge, OH to hand off to Bud or? David Lieb You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 15:02:16 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:02:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <11DD6B3543884FB799530815D9A5E4F8@Larry> References: <55383929066F47C282B4B422FFEFF8AD@BEvans> <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <11DD6B3543884FB799530815D9A5E4F8@Larry> Message-ID: <62592C2F-0B41-4504-8ADC-0A2BF222CDED@mac.com> Had a pretty good shake down here - - about 75 miles south of Buster. The computer monitor was a rocking for what seemed like a half a minute but most likely was shorter. Do not remember the last time I felt an earthquake. But I will take an earthquake any day over tornadoes where you have to keep your radio/TV on for hours, go to the storm cellar for some unknown time. Perhaps do this several times a year. With an earthquake you do not know it is coming (so don't worry about it) and in about 30 seconds you know if you have any reason to be concerned. I always enjoyed the fellow in Simi Valley in the big earthquake there years ago - - he looked out his patio door at the swimming pool and said "Surfs Up". Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > I'll take my chances with tornadoes any day! From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 15:06:41 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:06:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: <117814.49399.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <117814.49399.qm@web62502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7F80A602-2D40-4BA2-87E6-3D2AED5B2C1B@mac.com> John, Would Indianapolis, IN to Cambridge OH work for you? Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:44 PM, John Kuzman wrote: > David - > > > > It now appears as though the route is I-80, which is too far north > of me. I would need to head due north over 200 miles just to hit > I-80. I believe that you are now handing off to someone up near > Toledo. > > > > John Kuzman > > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, David Lieb wrote: > > From: David Lieb > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage > To: "Spridget List" > Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 3:48 PM > > > We had a couple minor changes out here... I will pick the Holy > Sprite up > > in > > Denver and then head east on I-70 to Topeka KS and not across > Nebraska. > > Mike > > Osipik from the Kansas City Austin Healey Club will pick it up in > Topeka > > and > > drop in Kansas City. An as yet unnamed club member in Kansas City > will > > take > > it to Des Moines where David Lieb will pick it up. > > I am anticipating taking possesion in Des Moines, IA and delivering > it to > John Kuzman in Indianapolis, IN. John had indicated that he could > take it as > far as Zanesville or Cambridge, OH to hand off to Bud or? > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 15:26:47 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:26:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--from my cousin In-Reply-To: <488F7B6B.3010302@uni.edu> References: <55383929066F47C282B4B422FFEFF8AD@BEvans> <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <488F7B6B.3010302@uni.edu> Message-ID: >From my cousin in Iowa: Okay -- here goes at the risk of whatever -- I have lived in northeast Iowa over 50 years and I have seen two tornadoes in the last 8 years less than 1/2 mile from my home. We didn't have TV on to be notified -- the city alerted us by sirens -- but not in my neighborhood. The May 25 tornado in NE Iowa demolished 2-3 small towns and their infractures. The first week of June, 85 out of 99 counties were declared federal emergency areas due to the Flood of 2008. We had the 500 year flood putting water 10-12 feet higher than before. This too wiped out major cities that are still trying to recuperate from the tornado as well as flood. I have several friends living in the flood plain and in 30, 40, 60 years had never seen the water come to their place [they are approximately 2 miles south of the river] -- foundations were knocked out - water up to the ceilings of the first story of their homes. Needless to say several families have lost their homes and nowhere to go with our winter weather just around the corner -- you know -- 20 degrees below zero for days -- 2 to 5 feet of snow -- and I saved the best for last -- ICE. I believe it doesn't matter where you live -- you just become accustomed to your surroundings and possible natural disasters. I hope I didn't offend anyone. But all of us across the country need to be grateful for what we have and help those in need. Thank you for listening. A gal from Iowa From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 29 15:52:11 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:52:11 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative Holy Sprite Route - Eastern End References: <004101c8ef4c$a6d21d40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><047001c8ef50$9a318d60$6401a8c0@universal1><58205B52-9929-41F9-9444-91583DB64656@valentinephoto.net><048e01c8ef5b$7c43a710$6401a8c0@universal1> <083001c8f18e$1cde4d40$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <83921BCB440D4A178FB4866C3A075E34@TAIRS> From: "Charley Braum" > > Therefore, again, is it OK for the Holy SpIrite to have a day of rest? > Lo! And on the Seventh Day he rested.... (ish) From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 29 16:45:35 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:45:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bounced off..... Message-ID: Today I received the message below from the list; __________________________________________________________ Your membership in the mailing list Spridgets has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 29-Jul-2008. You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership. You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. ___________________________________________________________ I did re-enable my membership, but I'm not sure if I am on the list or not (I haven't received anything since the above message...... Kevin V. From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 29 16:55:28 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:55:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1429465013.20080729155528@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, and it is YOUR vision that we support in calling for you to take the title... only one who did NOT want it would be deserving!.. you didn't think that we would actually DO anything BECAUSE of a steeenkin' title... .. NO.. we wish only to bring honor to your vision. > I am honored, but hasten to point out that "PooBah" is an inherited title >and cannot be conferred by election! >More on this later, but my vision for the Sprite - Midget Club USA will be a >lot less formal. All members will be known as "Presidents" with your local >chapter being the cockpit of your Spridget. Seriously, many clubs end up >with ego and personality troubles due to some hierarchy of "PooBahs" and I'd >very much like to avoid that. I envision a very loose organization >communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a >title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings. The Holy >Sprite project, the BusterCluster, and other OSHIT and SOS projects are >cases in point. We didn't need no stinkin' PooBah to make them happen... >somebody stepped up and we all pitched in to make it happen! >Cheers!! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" 480. The next dreadful thing to a battle lost is a battle won. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 29 17:02:56 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:02:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net><04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net><08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net><43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> <1429465013.20080729155528@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <200289D9D3EE4670B3040D2AABA63E73@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> After reading the description below, I was inspired! Lets call it Spridgets at autox.team.net what do you think? Glen >> I envision a very loose organization >>communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a >>title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings. The Holy >>Sprite project, the BusterCluster, and other OSHIT and SOS projects are >>cases in point. We didn't need no stinkin' PooBah to make them happen... >>somebody stepped up and we all pitched in to make it happen! From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 17:33:36 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tentative departure Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <625099.30173.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Glen Byrns wrote: > Ever tell a joke and nobody gets it? I've been spelling > it "SpIrite", Not true! I threatened to boycott unless it was changed to Spirite. Hell, I bought lunch for one of my guys today when we trying to find a way to read a document and hyperlink anything with a "p" surrounded by numbers in the title. The "P's" are new procedures we didn't have before. The guy immediately said "Yeah, I guess all we are saying is give p's a chance". Half the room got it. The other half will never work for me. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 17:43:09 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > Chances of even seeing a tornado are something like 1 in 8 > million. (Unless, Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any given time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? Ron From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 17:46:46 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: <08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net> <04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net> <08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net> <43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> <08b001c8f19e$6a487780$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: Charley Braum wrote: OK, then who gets blamed, and who will we complain about, when things go right?? Same as always... JustEd, Montana Bob, etc.!!! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:03:28 2008 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:03:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any given > time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? > I've seen a few! In 1969 I was working and the buildings on either side of our store were leveled. We had a broom through the front doors to keep them from being sucked open. It worked! In 1978 one went through the parking lot of my apartment complex and picked my motorcycle up and moved it a few feet but set it back down on its wheels. That one picked up a dumpster and dropped it on my roomie's VW bug. Squashed. That year I also found one as I left Houston, TX. I drove through the worst of it as I was on the highway at the moment that it hit. I couldn't even see my windshield wipers moving for a moment! I attribute my safety to the added weight of 15 cases of Coors in the trunk... (We couldn't get it east of the Mississippi River back then.) A little while later I heard on the radio that 750 houses were destroyed by that one. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jul 29 19:17:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:17:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> I am NOT, even remotely (THANK God), in the same 'class' as M.B.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND 'insulted'!!! From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 18:31:48 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:31:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com>, <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> I've been through 4 sessions..... 1) 14 came through Minnesota in about Feb '78 and almost wiped out Edina... one passed over the house ---we were in the basement. 2) 3 separate ones in Harvest Alabama, one of which wiped out a complete Mall complex, the other took out our office building - we were under the stairwell. 3) 1 in Park Hall. MD that came within 6ft of our kitchen... we were in the bathroom under some matresses.. So, I moved to the Pacific NorthWest .... does Mount St. Helens ring a bell, anyone?? On 29 Jul 2008 at 16:43, Ron Soave wrote: >> Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any >> given time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jul 29 18:51:31 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:51:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Update Message-ID: <048401c8f1de$68d03b50$4e947e4c@HP> Finally got time to remove Bugzuki's head and the valves and pistons are fine. Just a broken exhaust cam. Larry Miller From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 18:56:17 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paging John Daniels Message-ID: <625327.46479.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John, Please contact me off list if you're there. Ron From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jul 29 19:11:09 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:11:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well as nuts as this whole thing is, I am smiling about it. I will be in Tom's River to help with the sanding and wrench turning, but as I do not have a tow vehicle, I can not help with getting the tub across the country. Larry On Jul 29, 2008, at 1:21 PM, K. Valentine wrote: > This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link > below) > > Kevin V. > > > > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV > +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH > +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, > + > NJ > &hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.101 > 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 > > Or > > http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 29 19:34:09 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com>, <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up I've been through 4 sessions..... 1) 14 came through Minnesota in about Feb '78 and almost wiped out Edina... one passed over the house ---we were in the basement. 2) 3 separate ones in Harvest Alabama, one of which wiped out a complete Mall complex, the other took out our office building - we were under the stairwell. 3) 1 in Park Hall. MD that came within 6ft of our kitchen... we were in the bathroom under some matresses.. So, I moved to the Pacific NorthWest .... does Mount St. Helens ring a bell, anyone?? ========================== I don't know, Dave, but I think maybe YOU are the cause of all of this. LAD From Waynesillychevy at aol.com Tue Jul 29 19:45:52 2008 From: Waynesillychevy at aol.com (Waynesillychevy at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:45:52 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up Message-ID: well we had a little tornado in new hampshire last weekend it was close to my house and i saw the sky change really quick first it got really really dark then it gets lighter with a greenish hue it rained so friggin hard and the wind was crazy so im not #26 person but i pics ill post when tomorrow nice to meet all you mg owners or spridget folks **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 29 19:48:47 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:48:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com>, <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> Message-ID: <488FC87F.2030901@frontiernet.net> Nah, I'm pretty sure I am. Every time I have gone through MO or AR, I have had to race a tornado to the state line. In January, 1980, I moved to Longview, WA, just in time to enjoy the worst snowstorm in decades. I was still there on May 18, 1980. Kate > > ========================== > > I don't know, Dave, but I think maybe YOU are the cause of all of this. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 29 19:50:08 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:50:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Must have been me messing up the statistics, saw six of them in one day while driving across Kansas. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 29, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Chances of even seeing a tornado are something like 1 in 8 >> million. (Unless, > > Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any > given time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? > > Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:11:02 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:11:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paging John Daniels In-Reply-To: <625327.46479.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <625327.46479.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291911x474402c4i6ad4c7f1be6f2912@mail.gmail.com> I think he lives in Lynchburg, TN, Ron.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:56 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > John, > > Please contact me off list if you're there. > > Ron > _ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 20:12:05 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:12:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com>, <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> Message-ID: <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> Larry Daniels wrote: "I don't know, Dave, but I think maybe YOU are the cause of all of this." That MUST be it, cause we haven't had a tornado in Anaheim." From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jul 29 20:17:26 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:17:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paging John Daniels References: <625327.46479.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0807291911x474402c4i6ad4c7f1be6f2912@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20B583F2BB3F495AAF339C374F6A38C6@midget> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paging John Daniels >I think he lives in Lynchburg, TN, Ron.... ;-) I thought that was John Dooley... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:25:05 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:25:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291925t1508296es5201308bba6cca81@mail.gmail.com> I wasn't clear on that stat... That is "per individual tornado", not every possible tornado during a person's lifetime. Big difference. Also the roughly normalized population of "Tornado Alley" (about 20 different definitions of that area), is more like 150 Million.... so for a single tornado, what percentage of that 150 million actually sees it....? Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Chances of even seeing a tornado are something like 1 in 8 > > million. (Unless, > > Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any given > time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? > > Ron From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 20:33:49 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:33:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com>, <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry>, <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> Message-ID: <488F709D.4655.2B4C473@dmg.bossig.com> You know could be a possibility... At least, that's exactly what both my ex-wives said ;^\ >> Larry Daniels wrote: "I don't know, Dave, but I think maybe YOU are >> the cause of all of this." -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:34:20 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:34:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807291934xea1b32bh6c87ec292e7e8760@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:12 PM, B- Evans wrote: > > > That MUST be it, cause we haven't had a tornado in Anaheim." You mean 5/22/2008, 11/9/1982 and 11/7/1966 were just in the imagination of all people who saw them? ;-) http://www.city-data.com/forum/city/Anaheim-California.html -- Cheers!! Jim From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 20:59:47 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] My 2009 road trip Message-ID: <451195.21835.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Out of the "something I want to do before I die" part of my brain, it turns out I'm going to be driving a 1953 Studebaker in the 2009 La Carrera Panamericana 2200 mile race across the mountains and streets of Mexico. For those not familiar, www.panamrace.com. At first I was told by my co-pilot it was a 1951 Stude. I talked to the builder today and it's a 1953 Starlight Coupe, a beautiful Raymond Loewy design (he of the Coca Cola bottle and many other of the most famous and important industrial designs of the 20th century). Hey, by the way - Zoom, is that what "Coca Cola in a Motorola Kitchen" meant? Anyway, this is a very, very cool rally, with police escorts, townspeople cheering at the checkpoints, massive amounts of free Corona beer...etc. Due to some amazing generosity, we have at least one sponsor from Colorado who owns a Mexico City parts distributor who will provide crew at planned pit stops with fuel, spares, brakes, tires, mechanics, etc. They are also providing accommodations in their vacation house at the rally origin for preparation. We have some work to do on the car, but it's already well on its way. It'll be festooned with period correct signage and lettering, and the base color is, naturally, white. (How do you say "White Trash" in espanol?). The 70 year old builder once held a Bonneville land speed record in a Studebaker back in the 90s, and pieces of it are going in this car, like some of the cage. He didn't want to drive the car because "Have you seen the pictures of those mountains??? I'm too close to the end to take chances like that." Anyway, any and all are invited, October 2009. Woo hoo, Ron From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Jul 29 21:02:15 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:02:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0807291925t1508296es5201308bba6cca81@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78A978F9B72D489996FAAB7BAFD7E11F@DBKF4T81> >From my own personal observations (or lack thereof) it is extremely difficult for one to actually see a tornado if you happen to be cowering in a root cellar or are embedded under a stack of mattresses. Once alerted by the NWS as to the possibility of a tornado, the sound of sirens in my NW Kansas hometown would guarantee that the LAST place I'd be found would be out in the yard, gawking at the sky. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up >I wasn't clear on that stat... That is "per individual tornado", not every > possible tornado during a person's lifetime. Big difference. Also the > roughly normalized population of "Tornado Alley" (about 20 different > definitions of that area), is more like 150 Million.... so for a single > tornado, what percentage of that 150 million actually sees it....? > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Jim Johnson wrote: >> > Chances of even seeing a tornado are something like 1 in 8 >> > million. (Unless, >> >> Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any given >> time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? >> >> Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 21:47:03 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0807291934xea1b32bh6c87ec292e7e8760@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0807291255q6f369aeana8244f6ac18e017e@mail.gmail.com> <325614.2503.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <488F5404.29624.2450D73@dmg.bossig.com> <26CE9C010DCA47C8A8115CB01883F329@Larry> <0E3C19148F724B7B819E343AB03CF8B3@BEvans> <43840a7e0807291934xea1b32bh6c87ec292e7e8760@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8E504578AB1B43D6868B9283C6510182@BEvans> Where in the world did you find that? All I get is "Page not found" I don't know what that page says, but others I found just described "high winds" and "tornado-LIKE" winds. Tornado-like. That's what we call "dust devils". As far as what the media or "people" saw, your guess is as good as mine. You should see some of horrors people are describing today! "everyone was pretty cool except for this gay guy that had never experienced an earthquake. He ran out like a little girl waving his hands. I think he is still shaken." "My whole world was shaking." "it got my adrenaline pumping." "all the cars bouncing like lowriders was scary too." "Very exciting yet scary." "omg I was so scared and speech less" "Oh Baby, it never felt like this before!" "I was pretty shaken up and frightened" "this woman dropped to the floor and was screaming and freaking out throwing fists everywhere." "i'm totally freaking out that earthquake was horrible... I" And the one that says so much about these kind of people: "i was like sooooo scared. i was like totally freaking out and my skin is still crawling.Oh My God! I just want to keep talking about it." What was gratifying was to see what some people were saying about the media hysterics: "I don't know whats worse- this outrageous over-the-top coverage by the OCR of the small earthquake, or the fact that they posted on the homepage as "breaking news" that the Angels acquired some new player." "The front headline says, "...how to COPE with the earthquake". OMG...this wasn't hurricane katrina or a tornado that tore into Irvine. LAME!!" "Of course if you watched MSNBC you'd think L.A. slipped off into the channel and Rodan had entered downtown" "I hope it doesn't rain a tenth of an inch tonight. Then we'd have 'Storm Watch 08' vs. 'Earthquake Rocks SoCal' vying for top story." "Every single news service in Southern California is acting like we've never had an earthquake before. Nothing collapsed and nobody's dead. Calm down, folks." "Well sure, but this happens every time we have even a minor quake. The media throws up a "BREAKING NEWS!" banner to track down folks to interview who talk about a "rolling motion," and who "heard some car alarms go off." If there's damage, sure, report about that, but the world doesn't have to stop because of a little shaking." _____ From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:34 PM To: B- Evans Cc: Larry Daniels; dmg at bossig.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 9:12 PM, B- Evans wrote: That MUST be it, cause we haven't had a tornado in Anaheim." You mean 5/22/2008, 11/9/1982 and 11/7/1966 were just in the imagination of all people who saw them? ;-) http://www.city-data.com/forum/city/Anaheim-California.html -- Cheers!! Jim From kevin at valentinephoto.net Tue Jul 29 21:50:16 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:50:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage Message-ID: <9142F469-7D4D-4988-A0B7-9BFF147C253F@valentinephoto.net> This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link below) Kevin V. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.101 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 Or http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc From davriker at nwi.net Tue Jul 29 22:00:46 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Accident Update2 Message-ID: <00d001c8f1f8$d91ba470$6600a8c0@dave> State farm has settled my claim. They have sent a check that comes close to what my body shop quoted. They agreed to keep the claim active, so that if there is further damage discovered they will look at a supplimental filing. I am going to wait until mid-August to do the dissasembly. My 8 year old daughter was crushed when she thought that they were going to total the car, and now is excited to help daddy fix it. She is gone on vacation until next week, then birthday plans, so mid August it begins. I have just about convinced myself to dissasemble the whole car and do a complete repaint. It just isn't much more work. The bodyshop manager at work has ok'd me hiring his head painter to do the work on the side. Anyway, time for a new chapter. David Riker From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 22:08:56 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:08:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] starter band needed... Message-ID: <488F86E8.14069.30BD9D8@dmg.bossig.com> I just discovered that the band, bolt and nut that goes on the starter to cover the holes where the brushes and commutator sit is missing.... Does anyone have a spare band, bolt and nut that they can sell me??? I also noticed that the inside of the starter housing is rusted. WIll that cause any arm?? Or should I pull it and clean it out? The starter itself is working just fine TIA... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jul 29 22:10:31 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Accident Update2 In-Reply-To: <00d001c8f1f8$d91ba470$6600a8c0@dave> References: <00d001c8f1f8$d91ba470$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <488F8747.21447.30D4C06@dmg.bossig.com> Good news... ;^) On 29 Jul 2008 at 21:00, David Riker wrote: >> Anyway, time for a new chapter Which used to start off with "Came the dawn...." -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Jul 29 22:30:53 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:30:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Get your fold-up sports car NOW--save parking Message-ID: <18F1B2FABCBC4436A7A9451EBCB93BCA@BEvans> Hey, I don't make 'em up! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/07/29/mnfo ld129.xml From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 00:59:02 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] My 2009 road trip In-Reply-To: <451195.21835.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <913705.44087.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, I have been where they start the last leg of the race - I would love to see the whole race. I have never had the opportunity to be in the race. It is a very cool race with all different kinds of cars. Don Picard ran a Morris traveler in the race one year. He blew the motor so he cane in on a trailer. If your running next year be sure to get your entry fee in early. They turned down cars this year because they were full. In the past they never really had a limit. This makes me think they are filling the sleeping locations because more cars are entering the race each year. Vigil --- On Tue, 7/29/08, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] My 2009 road trip To: "Spridgets" Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 7:59 PM Out of the "something I want to do before I die" part of my brain, it turns out I'm going to be driving a 1953 Studebaker in the 2009 La Carrera Panamericana 2200 mile race across the mountains and streets of Mexico. For those not familiar, www.panamrace.com. At first I was told by my co-pilot it was a 1951 Stude. I talked to the builder today and it's a 1953 Starlight Coupe, a beautiful Raymond Loewy design (he of the Coca Cola bottle and many other of the most famous and important industrial designs of the 20th century). Hey, by the way - Zoom, is that what "Coca Cola in a Motorola Kitchen" meant? Anyway, this is a very, very cool rally, with police escorts, townspeople cheering at the checkpoints, massive amounts of free Corona beer...etc. Due to some amazing generosity, we have at least one sponsor from Colorado who owns a Mexico City parts distributor who will provide crew at planned pit stops with fuel, spares, brakes, tires, mechanics, etc. They are also providing accommodations in their vacation house at the rally origin for preparation. We have some work to do on the car, but it's already well on its way. It'll be festooned with period correct signage and lettering, and the base color is, naturally, white. (How do you say "White Trash" in espanol?). The 70 year old builder once held a Bonneville land speed record in a Studebaker back in the 90s, and pieces of it are going in this car, like some of the cage. He didn't want to drive the car because "Have you seen the pictures of those mountains??? I'm too close to the end to take chances like that." Anyway, any and all are invited, October 2009. Woo hoo, Ron You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 30 07:06:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:06:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Accident Update2 In-Reply-To: <00d001c8f1f8$d91ba470$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: That's good news. My daughter still asks me from time to time if I'm ever going to put the Sprite back together. She would have been about 7 when I first pulled off that fender. Now, you know me and my SA remarks ... re: >>The bodyshop manager at work has ok'd me hiring his head painter >>to do the work on the side. Why would a head painter work on the side? Maybe I'm answering my own question here; but I do realize that it is only the sides of the head that gets painted. I had no idea that painters were so specialized!! ;) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Riker" State farm has settled my claim. They have sent a check that comes close to what my body shop quoted. They agreed to keep the claim active, so that if there is further damage discovered they will look at a supplimental filing. I am going to wait until mid-August to do the dissasembly. My 8 year old daughter was crushed when she thought that they were going to total the car, and now is excited to help daddy fix it. She is gone on vacation until next week, then birthday plans, so mid August it begins. I have just about convinced myself to dissasemble the whole car and do a complete repaint. It just isn't much more work. The bodyshop manager at work has ok'd me hiring his head painter to do the work on the side. Anyway, time for a new chapter. David Riker From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 30 07:08:10 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:08:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Accident Update2 In-Reply-To: <488F8747.21447.30D4C06@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: In my new chapters, I think that turning that "w" upside down is more appropriate. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Dave G." On 29 Jul 2008 at 21:00, David Riker wrote: >> Anyway, time for a new chapter Which used to start off with "Came the dawn...." -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 07:31:54 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:31:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up Message-ID: <073020081331.28032.48906D4A000391BC00006D802214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Please don't move to pa. seriously though there was this story about this guy who lost one hose in the oakland quake , one house and his resteraunt to a wildfire in la, then lost another resteraunt to the riots after rodney king verdict, and then moved to the midwest and lost another house to a tornado. Can we say Bad Luck? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Dave G." > I've been through 4 sessions..... > > 1) 14 came through Minnesota in about Feb '78 and almost wiped out > Edina... one passed over the house ---we were in the basement. > > 2) 3 separate ones in Harvest Alabama, one of which wiped out a complete > Mall complex, the other took out our office building - we were under the > stairwell. > > 3) 1 in Park Hall. MD that came within 6ft of our kitchen... we were in the > bathroom under some matresses.. > > So, I moved to the Pacific NorthWest .... does Mount St. Helens ring a > bell, anyone?? > > On 29 Jul 2008 at 16:43, Ron Soave wrote: > > >> Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any > >> given time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 07:34:59 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:34:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: <073020081331.28032.48906D4A000391BC00006D802214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <073020081331.28032.48906D4A000391BC00006D802214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: And of course, John Bobbit lost a hose in a marital dispute..... On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:31 AM, wrote: > Please don't move to pa. > > seriously though there was this story about this guy who lost one hose in > the oakland quake , one house and his resteraunt to a wildfire in la, then > lost another resteraunt to the riots after rodney king verdict, and then > moved to the midwest and lost another house to a tornado. Can we say Bad > Luck? > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Dave G." > > > I've been through 4 sessions..... > > > > 1) 14 came through Minnesota in about Feb '78 and almost wiped out > > Edina... one passed over the house ---we were in the basement. > > > > 2) 3 separate ones in Harvest Alabama, one of which wiped out a complete > > Mall complex, the other took out our office building - we were under the > > stairwell. > > > > 3) 1 in Park Hall. MD that came within 6ft of our kitchen... we were in > the > > bathroom under some matresses.. > > > > So, I moved to the Pacific NorthWest .... does Mount St. Helens ring a > > bell, anyone?? > > > > On 29 Jul 2008 at 16:43, Ron Soave wrote: > > > > >> Hmmm...30 people in the country have seen a tornado? Is that at any > > >> given time? Aside from my immediate family, who are the other 26? > > > > > > -- > > Dave G. KK7SS > > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > > > The Original Point and Click --- Smith and Wesson.... > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 30 08:29:39 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:29:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any listers in Oxford MI ? Message-ID: <000501c8f250$b35b26e0$1002a8c0@TRACY> If you are in Oxford MI near Detroit and would be willing to pick up and ship some parts for me please contact me off list. Thanks in Advance, Tracy Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 08:48:56 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:48:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Get your fold-up sports car NOW--save parking In-Reply-To: <18F1B2FABCBC4436A7A9451EBCB93BCA@BEvans> References: <18F1B2FABCBC4436A7A9451EBCB93BCA@BEvans> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807300748q7b94e2c1s283e834c39339de3@mail.gmail.com> So you cruise around until you find ample parking space. You park your car and get out, and then your car folds into half of the space it normally takes and you go on about your business. You return later to find cars parked on both ends and have to wait hours, possibly days, until one or both of those cars move to allow your car room to unfold?? Doesn't sound very well thought out to me! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM, B- Evans wrote: > Hey, I don't make 'em up! > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/07/29/mnfold129.xml From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 30 09:00:49 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:00:49 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Get your fold-up sports car NOW--save parking In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0807300748q7b94e2c1s283e834c39339de3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9FF06CBAAAD648379B643409A3672E0B@GuyLaptop> That was my first thought too. If the space is big enough to park in to start off with, then why fold the car up after you have got out? But the way it would work on city streets in the UK is where one can park nose in to the pavement, with the back end stuck out into the traffic. Then fold it up so it stands within the parking bay width (which is what a Smart car will do, just). One thing that struck me about the car park markings in the Ozarks photos was the HUGE size of the parking bays! Or was the area used a bus park? Guy --Original Message----- From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jethro (JFoster) Sent: 30 July 2008 15:49 To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Get your fold-up sports car NOW--save parking So you cruise around until you find ample parking space. You park your car and get out, and then your car folds into half of the space it normally takes and you go on about your business. You return later to find cars parked on both ends and have to wait hours, possibly days, until one or both of those cars move to allow your car room to unfold?? Doesn't sound very well thought out to me! On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM, B- Evans wrote: > Hey, I don't make 'em up! > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/07/29/mnfo ld129.xml __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Calendar Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 1New Members b.. 4New Photos Visit Your Group Y! Sports for TV Access it for free Get Fantasy Sports stats on your TV. Yahoo! News Kevin Sites Get coverage of world crises. Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. . __,_._,___ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 09:07:20 2008 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster)) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:07:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Get your fold-up sports car NOW--save parking In-Reply-To: <9FF06CBAAAD648379B643409A3672E0B@GuyLaptop> References: <8de85a9c0807300748q7b94e2c1s283e834c39339de3@mail.gmail.com> <9FF06CBAAAD648379B643409A3672E0B@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0807300807v36763fe9p5b46518bc0b24bb4@mail.gmail.com> In the lot used at the Ozarks the parking bays are extra long to accomodate vehicles with boat trailers of those out on the lake. On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > One thing that struck me about the car park markings in the Ozarks photos > was the HUGE size of the parking bays! Or was the area used a bus park? From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 09:48:46 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:48:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite Message-ID: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> List, My start date is (hopefully) Thursday Aug 7. Below is the latest hand off list. If there are any errors, problems please resolve these with the hand off person involved or come back to the list if there is a need for another person. Date Location To Name 9/7 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer 9/8 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer 9/10 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer 9/11 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer 9/12 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes Denver, CO Topeka, KS Jim Johnson Topeka, KS Des Moines, IA Mike Osipik (KCAHC) Des Moines, IA Indianapolis, IN David Lieb Indianapolis, IN Cambridge, OH John Kuzman Cambridge, OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine My thanks to everyone for their time and cooperation. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 09:38:41 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:38:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks Message-ID: <5A74A172-2CA3-46E8-967C-E5B5DFA84204@mac.com> We all see who is helping in the moving of the Holy Sprite but I wanted to thank the rest of the folks who offered to help do this but did not end up on the move list for various reasons. They are - in no particular order: Crash - Reno, NV Mark - Nashville, TN George Castleberry - Flagstaff, AZ Charlie - Oklahoma Mark Haynes - Cheyenne, WY or there about. Leo - Texas/Louisana Lee Fox - St. Louis John Deikis - Michigan Kate - Elko NV My apology if there is anyone I missed. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jul 30 09:58:56 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:58:56 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> Message-ID: Roughly how far are each of these stints? UI am impressed with the generous hearted attitude to support someone you haven't even met! We of course expect to get a daily update report of the journey! Good luck Y'all! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: 30 July 2008 16:49 To: Spridgets Cc: mikeosipik at earthlink.net Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite List, My start date is (hopefully) Thursday Aug 7. Below is the latest hand off list. If there are any errors, problems please resolve these with the hand off person involved or come back to the list if there is a need for another person. Date Location To Name 9/7 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer 9/8 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer 9/10 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer 9/11 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer 9/12 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes Denver, CO Topeka, KS Jim Johnson Topeka, KS Des Moines, IA Mike Osipik (KCAHC) Des Moines, IA Indianapolis, IN David Lieb Indianapolis, IN Cambridge, OH John Kuzman Cambridge, OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine My thanks to everyone for their time and cooperation. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jul 30 10:00:35 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:00:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: The EWA mini-Tornado Jul 27 2008 Message-ID: <3015293E008C4F82AEDDB7E50D66931B@BEvans> Those of you who subscribe to Practical Classics magazine had to have been startled to read this e-mail from EWA, its American distributor, right in the middle of posts about tornados: "At about 230pm EST on Sunday Jul 27, the EWA premises experienced a mini-tornado which raised and removed the front 25 ft of our roof. Since this was during a torrential hail and thunderstorm, considerable damage was done to our office and all it's electronic equipment and to the store at the front of the building. Fortunately nobody was injured. " From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jul 30 10:03:50 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:03:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: References: <073020081331.28032.48906D4A000391BC00006D802214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EAFF5FB1CDD4DF5998B46B0F0E22011@BEvans> Brad Fornal wrote: "And of course, John Bobbit lost a hose in a marital dispute....." But look at all the fame he got. Besides, his wife doesn't miss it, although she does have this amazing new lifelike "toy". From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jul 30 10:07:57 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:07:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> Message-ID: <42457C89DA5F4830A9E87E2D6B24F876@BEvans> Guy Weller wrote: :I am impressed with the generous hearted attitude to support someone you haven't even met!" Really? You must be new to Sprite ownership! It comes with the certificate of title. From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 30 10:12:49 2008 From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:12:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master Message-ID: <555435.64370.qm@web27804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> I hope you guys can help. I have a 65' Sprite with an 18 month old replacement brake master cylinder ( the single reservoir - brake/clutch combined). Over the last few months the brakes will occassionallyB hold on for a few seconds after the brake pedal pressure has been released.B B The frequency of this problem seems to be getting more regular.B There is free play at the clevis pin end of the of the pushrod and no binding at the pedal pin.B The master cylinder just does not want to release the pushrod for sometimes up to 3 or 4 seconds. Any suggestions. Paul Baker __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 10:14:37 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:14:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master In-Reply-To: <555435.64370.qm@web27804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <555435.64370.qm@web27804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Front or rear? Do you think that perhaps the rubber flex lines could be collapsing internally? Brad On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Paul Baker wrote: > I hope you guys can help. > I have a 65' Sprite with an 18 month old replacement > brake master cylinder ( the single reservoir - brake/clutch combined). Over > the last few months the brakes will occassionallyB hold on for a few > seconds > after the brake pedal pressure has been released.B B The frequency of this > problem seems to be getting more regular.B There is free play at the > clevis > pin end of the of the pushrod and no binding at the pedal pin.B The master > cylinder just does not want to release the pushrod for sometimes up to 3 or > 4 > seconds. > Any suggestions. > Paul Baker > __________________________________________________________ > Not happy with your > email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 30 10:18:04 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master In-Reply-To: References: <555435.64370.qm@web27804.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01cd01c8f25f$da2e4720$dc03f204@spider> Oh yes; the insides do go with all sorts of symptoms. ...bill in oregon ======================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 9:15 AM To: Paul Baker Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master Front or rear? Do you think that perhaps the rubber flex lines could be collapsing internally? Brad On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Paul Baker wrote: > I hope you guys can help. > I have a 65' Sprite with an 18 month old replacement > brake master cylinder ( the single reservoir - brake/clutch combined). Over > the last few months the brakes will occassionallyB hold on for a few > seconds > after the brake pedal pressure has been released.B B The frequency of this > problem seems to be getting more regular.B There is free play at the > clevis > pin end of the of the pushrod and no binding at the pedal pin.B The master > cylinder just does not want to release the pushrod for sometimes up to 3 or > 4 > seconds. > Any suggestions. > Paul Baker > __________________________________________________________ From p.herder at cox.net Wed Jul 30 10:20:18 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] FW: The EWA mini-Tornado Jul 27 2008 In-Reply-To: <3015293E008C4F82AEDDB7E50D66931B@BEvans> References: <3015293E008C4F82AEDDB7E50D66931B@BEvans> Message-ID: <489094C2.4040807@cox.net> They will do ANYTHING to not ship me my issues! (Missing ~ 1/3 of all the issues for the current subscription - and there will NOT be another!) Paul Herder 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS B- Evans wrote: > Those of you who subscribe to Practical Classics magazine had to have been > startled to read this e-mail from EWA, its American distributor, right in > the middle of posts about tornados: > > > > "At about 230pm EST on Sunday Jul 27, the EWA premises experienced a > mini-tornado which raised and removed the front 25 ft of our roof. Since > this was during a torrential hail and thunderstorm, considerable damage was > done to our office and all it's electronic equipment and to the store at the > front of the building. Fortunately nobody was injured. " From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 10:22:01 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:22:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Correction Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <0aa701c8f25c$6ce48dd0$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> <0aa701c8f25c$6ce48dd0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <13B4F051-8DA3-4AE5-98A4-1DCCC74DE637@mac.com> I sure am glad someone checks me. The departure date is Aug 7. not 9/7. Est. RT Date Distance Location To Name Aug 7 152 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer Aug 8 846 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer Aug 9 870 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer Aug 10 1020 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer Aug 11 504 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes 1082 Denver, CO Topeka, KS Jim Johnson 514 Topeka, KS Des Moines, IA Mike Osipik (KCAHC) 1034 Des Moines, IA Indianapolis, IN David Lieb 508 Indianapolis, IN Cambridge, OH John Kuzman 220 Cambridge, OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn 424 Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum 425 Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 8:53 AM, Charley Braum wrote: > Not picking but - you have September as the month in your route > list. > > Don't confuse me any more than I already am! :^) > > > CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Wed Jul 30 10:13:37 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:13:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Departure - Holy Sprite Message-ID: <0aee01c8f25f$39c20290$6401a8c0@universal1> ----- Original Message ----- From: Charley Braum To: Guy Weller Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite "support someone you haven't even met!" Hey! Watch it there; I've met Father Jack and he is closely in touch with someone who knows you - rather well, I might add. CB From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 30 11:01:10 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:01:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grand Poona In-Reply-To: <1429465013.20080729155528@pacifier.com> References: <364522.78619.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com><8784BE3E-80FD-42F1-8E0F-458994E932F3@comcast.net><04285EF2-E23A-4B6B-A702-0E6FA9336E75@comcast.net><08300C91-3846-4A15-BD1D-573638B2E877@comcast.net><43840a7e0807291009r60d83b98l5a4deef1b71be828@mail.gmail.com> <1429465013.20080729155528@pacifier.com> Message-ID: I am a "non-member" of a similarly unstructured affinity group called the "Not a VW Club" around Ann Arbor. We are dedicating to proving old air-cooled VWs can run on ice cream. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:55 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grand Poobah Hello Jim, and it is YOUR vision that we support in calling for you to take the title... only one who did NOT want it would be deserving!.. you didn't think that we would actually DO anything BECAUSE of a steeenkin' title... .. NO.. we wish only to bring honor to your vision. > I am honored, but hasten to point out that "PooBah" is an inherited title >and cannot be conferred by election! >More on this later, but my vision for the Sprite - Midget Club USA will be a >lot less formal. All members will be known as "Presidents" with your local >chapter being the cockpit of your Spridget. Seriously, many clubs end up >with ego and personality troubles due to some hierarchy of "PooBahs" and I'd >very much like to avoid that. I envision a very loose organization >communicating via internet where everyone has an equal voice, no one has a >title, there are no dues, and there are no required meetings. The Holy >Sprite project, the BusterCluster, and other OSHIT and SOS projects are >cases in point. We didn't need no stinkin' PooBah to make them happen... >somebody stepped up and we all pitched in to make it happen! >Cheers!! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" 480. The next dreadful thing to a battle lost is a battle won. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jul 30 11:09:40 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:09:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > Roughly how far are each of these stints? Guy, This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link below) Kevin V. http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.101 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 Or http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 30 11:10:14 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:10:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator Message-ID: <81C5F44D30BE4FADAB57777196EE43F8@Home> My alternator light is blinking on and off even at medium RPM's. What should I be looking for? 1. Bad wiring? 2. Old pulley on new generator too large. Is the difference in size between old (generator) and new (alternator) pulley enough to matter? 3. Brand new alternator is bad. My multimeter is reading 17V from the battery alone, so I have to get a new one. Michael Rowe '74 Midget with '70 engine Long Island, NY From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 30 11:19:21 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:19:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator In-Reply-To: <81C5F44D30BE4FADAB57777196EE43F8@Home> References: <81C5F44D30BE4FADAB57777196EE43F8@Home> Message-ID: <01e901c8f268$68fa3dd0$dc03f204@spider> Sounds like the voltage regulator is old. In the reg. built into the alternator. If so, get it tested. Most auto parts stores are set up for this now. Connections are very cheap to check and clean; will give you time to think about your next step. Is the 17 volts FROM the battery or of the voltage the alt is putting into the battery? You might see 17-volts with the leads not connected to the battery but not across the battery terminals with the alt connected. This would show itself as boiling of the battery fluids. ...bill in oregon ================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 10:10 AM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Alternator My alternator light is blinking on and off even at medium RPM's. What should I be looking for? 1. Bad wiring? 2. Old pulley on new generator too large. Is the difference in size between old (generator) and new (alternator) pulley enough to matter? 3. Brand new alternator is bad. My multimeter is reading 17V from the battery alone, so I have to get a new one. Michael Rowe '74 Midget with '70 engine Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jul 30 11:30:45 2008 From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:30:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master Message-ID: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> It has Goodridge stainless hoses fitted and new return springs.B B However, I just gotB my son to push the brake pedal while I watched the pushrodB and it is clear that theB pushrodB is not being released by the master cylinder.B So what is holding it in? Paul Baker Anyhow, as mentioned above, the flex hoses might well be failing. Probably should be replaced "just because" anyway. Also might want to check to be sure the brake pedal IS returning all the way every time. There is a measurement for freeplay. The spring inside the footwell is OK? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 30 11:48:30 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:48:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my daughter. Just now I was replacing the brake hoses because even with new cylinders, shoes, master, the brakes suck... even get stuck. So, I'm under the car on my back with a MAPP torch heating the fitting so it will come loose. BANG The hose exploded in my face like a gunshot, and the hose end barely missed me. I'm gathering myself right now, but hey... be careful out there. The hose had collapsed enough that even with one end undone, it was able to store enough heat to blow apart in the middle. Bust strength my ass... Whew... OK back to it. Peter C ==== At 12:30 PM 7/30/2008, Paul Baker wrote: >It has Goodridge stainless hoses fitted and new return springs.B B >However, I >just gotB my son to push the brake pedal while I watched the pushrodB and it >is clear that theB pushrodB is not being released by the master cylinder.B So >what is holding it in? >Paul Baker > > >Anyhow, as mentioned above, the flex hoses >might well be failing. Probably >should be replaced "just because" anyway. >Also might want to check to be >sure the brake pedal IS returning all the way >every time. There is a >measurement for freeplay. The spring inside the >footwell is OK? >David Lieb >1972 1960 1974 1973 From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 12:10:58 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:10:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2EAC3339-EC01-41A6-A944-0BBF90105D1D@mac.com> Kevin, Please update your map with the handoff list. The difference between the two is confusing some folks. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:09 AM, K. Valentine wrote: > On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > >> Roughly how far are each of these stints? > > Guy, > > This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link > below) > > Kevin V. > > > > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV > +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH > +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, > +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.1 > 01 > 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 > > Or > > http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 30 12:17:52 2008 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:17:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20080730141752.3YUAF.188139.root@fepweb11> This is STILL fun. 40 hours into paint prep and way more to go. Wheeeeeee! ---- Peter C wrote: > OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've > been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my daughter. > > Just now I was replacing the brake hoses because even with new > cylinders, shoes, master, the brakes suck... even get stuck. So, I'm > under the car on my back with a MAPP torch heating the fitting so it > will come loose. BANG The hose exploded in my face like a gunshot, > and the hose end barely missed me. I'm gathering myself right now, > but hey... be careful out there. The hose had collapsed enough that > even with one end undone, it was able to store enough heat to blow > apart in the middle. Bust strength my ass... > > Whew... > > OK back to it. > > Peter C > ==== > At 12:30 PM 7/30/2008, Paul Baker wrote: > >It has Goodridge stainless hoses fitted and new return springs.B B > >However, I > >just gotB my son to push the brake pedal while I watched the pushrodB and it > >is clear that theB pushrodB is not being released by the master cylinder.B So > >what is holding it in? > >Paul Baker > > > > > >Anyhow, as mentioned above, the flex hoses > >might well be failing. Probably > >should be replaced "just because" anyway. > >Also might want to check to be > >sure the brake pedal IS returning all the way > >every time. There is a > >measurement for freeplay. The spring inside the > >footwell is OK? > >David Lieb > >1972 1960 1974 1973 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 30 12:27:55 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:27:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <0aee01c8f25f$39c20290$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: >>someone who knows you - rather well, I might add. I know that you weren't talking to me, but ... I don't think that he believes in me. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Charley Braum" "support someone you haven't even met!" Hey! Watch it there; I've met Father Jack and he is closely in touch with someone who knows you - rather well, I might add. CB From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jul 30 13:18:56 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:18:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Stickers In-Reply-To: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> References: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> Message-ID: <4890BEA0.8070604@frontiernet.net> Frank - Please send me your address again. The hard drive on my laptop cooked and I lost it. Kate From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 30 13:29:19 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:29:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com> Both hoses done, car's bled, shower's taken... Off to golf! Peter == At 12:48 PM 7/30/2008, Peter C wrote: >OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've >been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my daughter. From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 12:33:55 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:33:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01110228-FFBD-4983-A317-E6E0133FE0EA@mac.com> Kevin, Please update your map with the handoff list. The difference between the two is confusing some folks. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:09 AM, K. Valentine wrote: > On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > >> Roughly how far are each of these stints? > > Guy, > > This is what the Holy Sprite pilgrimage looks like so far. (Link > below) > > Kevin V. > > > > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=Davis,+CA&daddr=Elko,+NV > +to:Grand+Junction,+CO+to:Denver,+CO+to:Des+Moines,+IA+to:Toledo,+OH > +to:Pittsburgh,+PA+to:Harrisburg,+PA+to:+Toms+River, > +NJ&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=40.178873,-99.316406&sspn=46.814608,79.1 > 01 > 563&ie=UTF8&ll=40.647304,-94.658203&spn=46.524479,79.101563&t=h&z=4 > > Or > > http://tinyurl.com/5z55dc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 13:34:43 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:34:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Update] Holy Sprite Pilgrimage In-Reply-To: <919C5B099E7D4763A9F0354761D55F40@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <284788.84977.qm@web62503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <814C4159-612C-4EF5-ACD3-8BC41A883282@mac.com> <919C5B099E7D4763A9F0354761D55F40@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: For those keeping track Mike Osipik (KCAHC) will move the Holy Sprite from Topeka, KS to St. Louis, MO, Aug 13. David Lieb will pick it up and take it to Indianapolis where John Kuzman will take over. The Holy Sprite will the subject of the KCAHC monthly meeting on the 12th. Thanks for the great help. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 13:36:18 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:36:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807301236l25339da3r263d98003507abed@mail.gmail.com> Golf?? You said it was a Karmann Ghia!! Cheers!! Jim ;-) On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Peter C wrote: > Both hoses done, car's bled, shower's taken... Off to golf! > Peter > == > At 12:48 PM 7/30/2008, Peter C wrote: > >OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've > >been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my daughter. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 13:51:06 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:51:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Earthquake--follow-up In-Reply-To: References: <073020081331.28032.48906D4A000391BC00006D802214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4890C62A.8050800@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > And of course, John Bobbit lost a hose in a marital dispute..... > > Not quite right Brad, they found it. It was only lost for a few hours or 1/2 a day or something like that. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cbergst at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 13:48:24 2008 From: cbergst at yahoo.com (Clint Bergst) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] WSJ article on collecter car insurance Message-ID: <588488.46591.qm@web33805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >From the Personal Journal section of the July 30 Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121737402789495041.html?mod=todays_us_nonsub_ pj Clint Bergst San Jose CA '60 MK 1 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 14:10:41 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:10:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master In-Reply-To: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4890CAC1.8080607@comcast.net> Try adjusting the master push rod. Make it shorter just a 1/4 turn or so. My guess is that it is not letting the fluid back past the bleed back hole. It could be that the clutch and brake master rods got mixed up when the unit was worked on. If your brakes are rock hard and the pedal is way up firm and high, adjust that rod. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Wed Jul 30 15:27:00 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:27:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience Message-ID: You mean it's not the season for curling? In a message dated 30/07/2008 20:29:57 GMT Daylight Time, peter at nosimport.com writes: Off to golf! From cbaustin at verizon.net Wed Jul 30 15:32:38 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:32:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment Message-ID: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita to Kansas City?" 26July08 "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch ball." 30July08 Which is it? CB From cbaustin at verizon.net Wed Jul 30 15:51:09 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:51:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite odds and ends References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net> <085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1> <488F7727.90308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1> Frank, Is there still time to work up a 'want list' for the sprite? I'm sure we could stash quite a few needed items in the boot/around the trailer to be delivered at the same time. Later, CB From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 15:55:11 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:55:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment In-Reply-To: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <43840a7e0807301455o6e82fc71q4d6a089a5fce46fe@mail.gmail.com> Charley, Latest message from Bob says 1 7/8" ball and flat 4 pin connector. Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita to > Kansas > City?" 26July08 > > "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch ball." > 30July08 > > Which is it? > > CB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 30 16:53:34 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:53:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] electrolytic rust removal Message-ID: <05A78458A6D64C8DA7F332AF95669A22@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Just a quick tip. If you submerge an entire rear spring in the rust bath, be sure to run a jumper wire to EACH leaf or you end up with a bundle of 5 rusty leaves with a nice clean one in the middle. By the time they're rusty enough for the rust bath treatment, there is NO conductivity between leaves. DOH!!! Glen From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 16:55:08 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:55:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment In-Reply-To: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: Do not think that works, the receiver on the trailer only accepts 1 78 is my understanding. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita > to Kansas City?" 26July08 > "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch > ball." > 30July08 > > Which is it? > > CB From bugi1960 at gmail.com Wed Jul 30 17:05:40 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:05:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help ID a part Message-ID: <9FEB8096-0DA3-43C9-886A-F3E69DDFEDE1@gmail.com> I have a bagged and tagged part and I don't know what it's for. Its a steel six sided plate about 2 1/2" long with two hole centers about the same spacing as the exhaust hanger captive nuts. I have it labeled as removed from the underside back of the hump behind the left seat. The center has a punched out short hook. Could this be a hanger that the rubber has departed or am I forgetting something? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 17:09:14 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help ID a part In-Reply-To: <9FEB8096-0DA3-43C9-886A-F3E69DDFEDE1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <957181.86884.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Phil Nase wrote: > Could this be a hanger that the rubber has departed or am I > forgetting > something? Yes, that's it exactly. It's the one that bolts into the bulkhead behind the (LHS) driver. Call one of the usual suspects for a new one. Ron From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 30 17:15:41 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:15:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake In-Reply-To: References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <30D5EA539DB74A7E8CB3EEA9929AEF72@Home> Anyone live near Mohegan Lake, NY? There is a possibility of a significant distress sale of a '68 Midget. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Charley Braum" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment > Do not think that works, the receiver on the trailer only accepts 1 > 78 is my understanding. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > >> "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita >> to Kansas City?" 26July08 >> "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch >> ball." >> 30July08 >> >> Which is it? >> >> CB > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Jul 30 17:40:23 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:40:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment In-Reply-To: References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <4C24AFB1A1B3420FAA05D42091D0B57E@BEvans> I will run over to Ching Chang Charlies and get a 1 7/8" that can be passed on along with the trailer. Buster -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+b-evans=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 3:55 PM To: Charley Braum Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment Do not think that works, the receiver on the trailer only accepts 1 78 is my understanding. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita > to Kansas City?" 26July08 > "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch > ball." > 30July08 > > Which is it? > > CB You are subscribed as b-evans at earthlink.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jul 30 17:51:44 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:51:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] electrolytic rust removal In-Reply-To: <05A78458A6D64C8DA7F332AF95669A22@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <05A78458A6D64C8DA7F332AF95669A22@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: On Jul 30, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Just a quick tip. If you submerge an entire rear spring in the > rust bath, be > sure to run a jumper wire to EACH leaf or you end up with a bundle > of 5 rusty > leaves with a nice clean one in the middle. By the time they're > rusty enough > for the rust bath treatment, there is NO conductivity between > leaves. DOH!!! Glen, I wire brush a strip on both sides of the middle of the spring at the center then wrap a length of copper wire around the middle of the spring and attach the electrode to the wire. If you wrap the wire tightly (twist with pliers) it will make contact with all the leaves. Kevin From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 30 18:14:58 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:14:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP> I did not know you were into VW's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience > Both hoses done, car's bled, shower's taken... Off to golf! > Peter > == > At 12:48 PM 7/30/2008, Peter C wrote: >>OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've >>been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my d From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 30 18:23:24 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: So, you ran into the house and quickly sent an email?!!! Peter! Get a beer! -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my daughter. Just now I was replacing the brake hoses because even with new cylinders, shoes, master, the brakes suck... even get stuck. So, I'm under the car on my back with a MAPP torch heating the fitting so it will come loose. BANG The hose exploded in my face like a gunshot, and the hose end barely missed me. I'm gathering myself right now, but hey... be careful out there. The hose had collapsed enough that even with one end undone, it was able to store enough heat to blow apart in the middle. Bust strength my ass... Whew... OK back to it. Peter C ==== At 12:30 PM 7/30/2008, Paul Baker wrote: >It has Goodridge stainless hoses fitted and new return springs.B B >However, I >just gotB my son to push the brake pedal while I watched the pushrodB and it >is clear that theB pushrodB is not being released by the master cylinder.B So >what is holding it in? >Paul Baker > > >Anyhow, as mentioned above, the flex hoses >might well be failing. Probably >should be replaced "just because" anyway. >Also might want to check to be >sure the brake pedal IS returning all the way >every time. There is a >measurement for freeplay. The spring inside the >footwell is OK? >David Lieb >1972 1960 1974 1973 From cbaustin at verizon.net Wed Jul 30 19:40:11 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:40:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite odds and ends References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net> <085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1> <488F7727.90308@comcast.net> <011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1> <4890F969.2090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> "I don't know what is on the Sprite as it sits in CA. I think it needs seats, I should have just about everything else. I just parted out a MKII but it did not have seats. I saved all the suspension, front end, dash and I think all the gauges are useable, the temp gauge works, that's the biggy." ----------- I asked Frank what he might need for the rebuild - answer above. All younz guys know what's involved in rebuilding a car. Try this on - send what you think might be needed; switches, knobs, door checks, nut/bolt/screw sets (say for door hinges), wiring bits, turn signal/stop light/headlamp assemblies, rad hoses, hydraulic system parts, speed bleeders, etc. If someone wants to send a good radiator, or other major item, then that will just help maintain Frank's current personal stock. Send them to me at; Charley Braum 109 Clay Street Elizabeth, PA 15037 Now stick with me here - I'll make sure all the stuff gets to Frank - AND - when you box up the part(s) make sure to include your name and address and if the item is not used I'll make sure to get it returned to the owner. You might also post a message on the list as to what was sent so not too many duplicates show up and I'll keep that updated. Any questions, give me a shout, Later, CB From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jul 30 20:02:58 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:02:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite odds and ends In-Reply-To: <015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net> <085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1> <488F7727.90308@comcast.net> <011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1> <4890F969.2090807@comcast.net> <015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <48911D52.2040307@frontiernet.net> I wish you guys had done this before I left Oregon. I gave an entire garage full of parts to Jim Pocan at Brit Auto Parts, Ltd. Kate > ----------- > > I asked Frank what he might need for the rebuild - answer above. > > All younz guys know what's involved in rebuilding a car. Try this on - > send what you think might be needed; From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jul 30 20:44:56 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:44:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> References: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> Message-ID: <812575F5-B8CC-4AD5-96E8-0634ED59C2A7@phillymgclub.com> IF the start date is August 7, why are all the dates in September?? On Jul 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > List, > > My start date is (hopefully) Thursday Aug 7. > > Below is the latest hand off list. If there are any errors, problems > please resolve these with the hand off person involved or come back > to the list if there is a need for another person. > > Date Location To Name > 9/7 Fallbrook, CA Anaheim, CA Bob Kitterer > 9/8 Anaheim, CA Davis, CA Bob Kitterer > 9/10 Davis, CA Elko, NV Bob Kitterer > 9/11 Elko, NV Grand Junction, CO Bob Kitterer > 9/12 Grand Junction, CO Denver, CO Mark Haynes > Denver, CO Topeka, KS Jim Johnson > Topeka, KS Des Moines, IA Mike Osipik (KCAHC) > Des Moines, IA Indianapolis, IN David Lieb > Indianapolis, IN Cambridge, OH John Kuzman > Cambridge, OH Pittsburgh, PA Bud Osbourn > Pittsburgh, PA Harrisburg, PA Charley Braum > Harrisburg, PA Toms River, NJ Kevin Valentine > > My thanks to everyone for their time and cooperation. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 30 21:37:30 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:37:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net> <015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: The Holy Spirite (best described at the moment as a tub)has the following: One bugeye bonnet with poor condition headlamp buckets, I'll throw in hinges and propsticks from Bugsy One bugeye tub with doors, minor dents, zero panel needs, doors good, have hinges, poor latches dash and windscreen frame are present. Windscreen cracked through, most gauges shot. Steering column and rack are good, hodrod steering wheel MUST go! Disc brakes and full front suspension, drum rear and unknown pumpkin. All need normal rebuild parts and gaskets. All four shocks present Four obscenely wide rims with a buttload of rubber on them.(these should be "stolen" by whatever lister thinks they have enough engine and suspension to use them. I'm pretty sure the good Father wouldn't want to be seen around town with these shoes!) One 1500 engine and gearbox. I think Frank would agree, SOMEBODY TAKE IT! The matching driveshaft is in the car and should go with the 1500 please!!!! One shot-to-%$@# seat that should follow the engine or wheels. One genuine honest and truthfull Heritage certificate that may have to be burned depending on titling strategy. If not specifically mentioned above, its not there. Basically, If it ain't tin, it ain't in. I'm going to dump some fresh spare stuff into a box in the footwell. With a bit of luck the box will be heavier when it gets to Frank. If the car shows up with front drums, the nailgun comes out. Things to watch for: Anything to do with the rear bumperettes including the interior braces. seats gauges windscreen engine /transmission wiring harness all lamps and gaskets From billmasq at hotmail.com Wed Jul 30 21:50:11 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake In-Reply-To: <30D5EA539DB74A7E8CB3EEA9929AEF72@Home> References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> <30D5EA539DB74A7E8CB3EEA9929AEF72@Home> Message-ID: I DID live there in 1968 but not now (small world!) Bill > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:15:41 -0400 > From: mdrowe at optonline.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake > > Anyone live near Mohegan Lake, NY? There is a possibility of a significant > distress sale of a '68 Midget. > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kitterer Bob" > To: "Charley Braum" > Cc: "Spridgets List" > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Towing Equipment > > > > Do not think that works, the receiver on the trailer only accepts 1 > > 78 is my understanding. > > > > Bob Kitterer > > > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Charley Braum wrote: > > > >> "Hey, Paul... Can you slap on a 2" ball and take it from Wichita > >> to Kansas City?" 26July08 > >> "1) the trailer takes a 1 7/8 inch > >> ball." > >> 30July08 > >> > >> Which is it? > >> > >> CB > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jul 30 21:55:46 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 20:55:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The story of the Father's Sprite Message-ID: <63FA61E1E89C44D88BE57D468A354AAA@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> All we really know is that after years in a Sacramento carport, Spirite was bundled with three other classic cars and sold to a guy who wanted nothing to do with it. Listed on Craiglist for $1100, it drew several lookers, tirekickers and a lowballer with V-8 plans. When Bugsy and I pulled up, we did an instant car-guy bonding thing and he chopped the price to $600 and loaned me his trailer to get it home. Planning for a long term storage and eventual post-retirement restoration, I quickly changed plans after my wife saw a Morris pickup at the big local club meet. The Spirite left England in January of 1959, having been born just days earlier. OEW with red upholstery and optional heater and bumper, he probably came in either in Long Beach or Oakland. His life after that is lost to the sandblasters of time, but some say he slipped into poor condition over the years, going from owner to owner. Eventually, with one OEW fender, one Country Cream fender, one Rustoleum fender and an ecru bonnet clashing with an offwhite boot and a shabby interior that mixed Biscuit, Camel, Tan and Sandal, he was doomed to hotrod hell. Doubtlessly purchased by some pimple-faced highschooler, he sprouted giant tires and the biggest junkyard engine the kid could shoehorn into the bay. Thrashed around the neighborhood until he had whipped every grocery-getter on the block, he slipped under the carport and began watching the pasage of time through his cracked windscreen. Thrown in with much more desireable cars as a deal sweetener, he finally began to have a sliver of hope he would evade the crusher and coming back as 15 Hyundais. After a few weeks of being the last puppy in the pet store window, I looked upon his little bondo'ed face and fell in love. But now its time to move him from foster care into a longterm loving home near a doctor that understands his special needs. No more, I'm getting verklempt.....must find Kleenex Glen From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 30 23:55:15 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Departure - Holy Sprite In-Reply-To: <812575F5-B8CC-4AD5-96E8-0634ED59C2A7@phillymgclub.com> References: <19090E91-43FF-4ACF-B510-73396062EAB2@mac.com> <812575F5-B8CC-4AD5-96E8-0634ED59C2A7@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <8E88378F-5100-4F94-BA0A-351C94880923@mac.com> Stupid Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 30, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > IF the start date is August 7, why are all the dates in September?? From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 31 07:45:21 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:45:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com> <05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com> Anything that has style, Larry... anything. As a follow up, and to add insult to near injury.... the accelerator cable on the Mini broke in transit to golf! After that repair, I repaired to an establishment that serves gin and tonics.... to watch the Brewers loose embarrassingly again to the Cubs. Today should go better. Peter === At 07:14 PM 7/30/2008, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >I did not know you were into VW's > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:29 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience > > >>Both hoses done, car's bled, shower's taken... Off to golf! >> Peter >>== >>At 12:48 PM 7/30/2008, Peter C wrote: >>>OK.. between not minding our store properly and writing emails, I've >>>been working on a 63 Karmann Ghia intended for my d From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 31 07:49:09 2008 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:49:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com> References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com><05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP> <7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <02bc01c8f314$3608c8e0$dc03f204@spider> We're stuck with the Mariners (baseball) in the Pacific Northwest; worst record in baseball this year. ...bill =========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter C Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:45 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience Anything that has style, Larry... anything. As a follow up, and to add insult to near injury.... the accelerator cable on the Mini broke in transit to golf! After that repair, I repaired to an establishment that serves gin and tonics.... to watch the Brewers loose embarrassingly again to the Cubs. Today should go better. Peter From jfisher3 at fast.net Thu Jul 31 08:26:21 2008 From: jfisher3 at fast.net (John Fisher) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 69 Sprite for sale in Eastern PA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000c01c8f319$684fa080$6b01a8c0@JOHNF> Last year Sprites were sold in US. Forwarded to me by a friend, no financial interest http://reading.craigslist.org/car/769167193.html John Fisher 59 Sprites From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 31 08:38:03 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 09:38:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com><05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP> <7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1545968A8F34497CB832D639C95B1EE6@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience Anything that has style, Larry... anything. As a follow up, and to add insult to near injury.... the accelerator cable on the Mini broke in transit to golf! After that repair, I repaired to an establishment that serves gin and tonics.... to watch the Brewers loose embarrassingly again to the Cubs. Today should go better. Peter === Yeah! Go Cubbies!! LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 31 11:32:05 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show Message-ID: <15F345B99B2C49B1B35F77BF5E7DD5CF@Larry> For all of you coming from the south, you can gather at the Planeview Truck stop at 41/26. Be there by 1:30. Or you can come about another 4 miles north to see our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Rd., Oshkosh. We are meeting at the clubhouse at 1:15 and leaving at 1:30. I will call WST or Peter C at the truck stop and let you know when we are coming and you can fall in behind us. We will be going east from the intersection of 41/26 (Cty N) to Oregon St. Rd. (Cty I) then north to Ripple Road, west to 3778 Red Oak Ct. If you are late, you are on your own to find it. Don't forget sunscreen, camera and a lawn chair. It's gonna be a warm one Saturday. LAD P.S. I've gotten a lot of questions on what to bring -- really, there are so many people there that it is impossible to organize that. Just bring what you like. See y'all Saturday. From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Jul 31 13:15:55 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:15:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake In-Reply-To: References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> <30D5EA539DB74A7E8CB3EEA9929AEF72@Home> Message-ID: <48920F6B.9070101@verizon.net> We lived on Amazon Road in Mohegan Lake in '67. Drove a Corvair in those days, and had to get thru snow up to the belly pan one night. chuck Bill Masquelier wrote: > I DID live there in 1968 but not now (small world!) > Bill > > Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake > > Anyone live near Mohegan Lake, NY? There is a possibility of a significant > distress sale of a '68 Midget. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:40:02 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:40:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Software Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10807311240g1bf42524s302a8801d3838d00@mail.gmail.com> Check this out.... http://gizmodo.com/5030749/iphone-apps-we-like-dynolicious-car-performance-meter From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:45:33 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kool! Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10807311245r5786eb08y68397887e13f654f@mail.gmail.com> GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: References: <2ad6c6b10807311245r5786eb08y68397887e13f654f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48922389.2000209@b2systems.com> What does it do ? it was way too slow to load and I work at a university with a super fast pipe to the net and I found it too slow to even allow me to type my name. mike WFO Herb wrote: > GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: > > > 2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE > > 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE, > > (Skip your e-mail address.) > > 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Rambour Bug Writer err...Programmer mikey at b2systems.com **************************************************************** If you want to learn more about the ULTIMATE BRITISH sports car, then take a look at http://www.singercars.com/ or the ULTIMATE ALMOST a Ferrari http://www.dinospider.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mike.vasquez at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 14:47:38 2008 From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Kool! In-Reply-To: <48922389.2000209@b2systems.com> References: <2ad6c6b10807311245r5786eb08y68397887e13f654f@mail.gmail.com> <48922389.2000209@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <28f529ba0807311347q3b4ba665w920945a602b22ec1@mail.gmail.com> Actualy, you're supposed to type your name on the first line, and a friends name on the 2nd line. It's from a brazilian beer company website, and it's a joke/gag video clip. ran quick for me the other day. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > What does it do ? it was way too slow to load and I work at a > university with a super fast pipe to the net and I found it too slow to > even allow me to type my name. > > mike > > WFO Herb wrote: >> GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: >> >> > >> 2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE >> >> 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE, >> >> (Skip your e-mail address.) >> >> 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> >> >> > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Mike Rambour > Bug Writer err...Programmer > mikey at b2systems.com > **************************************************************** > If you want to learn more about the ULTIMATE BRITISH sports car, > then take a look at http://www.singercars.com/ > or the ULTIMATE ALMOST a Ferrari http://www.dinospider.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mike.vasquez at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jul 31 14:51:10 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:51:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Kool! In-Reply-To: <48922389.2000209@b2systems.com> References: <2ad6c6b10807311245r5786eb08y68397887e13f654f@mail.gmail.com> <48922389.2000209@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <073120082051.2015.489225BE0000E06E000007DF22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: After you enter your first and last names it calls your wife or significant other. -------------- Original message from Mike Rambour : -------------- > What does it do ? it was way too slow to load and I work at a > university with a super fast pipe to the net and I found it too slow to > even allow me to type my name. > > mike > > WFO Herb wrote: > > GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE: > > > > > > > > 2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE > > > > 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE, > > > > (Skip your e-mail address.) > > > > 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .. From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 31 15:31:28 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:31:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to measure/trial-fit tires on Message-ID: <056C2C9E83AA4ECD92189853EB14B530@OwnerPC> Last week, I spent several frustrating minutes trying (successfully) to "beat" the TireRack.com website, to find some Kumho 758 Power Stars for my '72 Midget. It seems that they do not show the Midget as ever having existed, and indicate that the only model produced by MG between '63 and '79 was the B. In response to my complaint, I recieved a phone call, a few minutes ago, from one of their customer relations guys. I described the problem I had encountered on their website, and he explained to me that they only list tire sizes for models they have PHYSICALLY had in their South Bend, Indiana shop, and had the opportunity to try different sizes and take appropriate measurements. So, if any of you guys are in the vicinity of South Bend, Indiana, contact TireRack.com and volunteer your Spridget for trial fitting of tires. Then, the next time I forget the aspect ratio of my Spridget's tires, and need to order new ones, I can click on: "find tires by vehicle make & model". Bud Osbourne P.S. I know you'll ALL be so pleased to hear the the newest Microsoft PC operating system, Windows Vista, no longer offers English in their "spell check" options! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jul 31 15:43:15 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to measure/trial-fittires on References: <056C2C9E83AA4ECD92189853EB14B530@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <21C1277B3CCC4335A8262E3BD7B62838@NilesAD.von.gov> Bud, They installed Sumitomo HTR200 175/70 13 tires on my 72 Midget at that facility. Well, Actually they didn't touch my car, because it was busy autocrossing on their test track with the Windy City Miata Club, but they did mount and balance the tires on my Minitor rims for me... twice, since they ignored my instructions on where they could not put weights as they would get peeled off by the tierod end. Unfortunately, their company representative made such an ass of himself the at the autocross event following day that none of my cars and none of my money will ever cross their threshold again. If they were to do this, I would think they would require a Bugeye, at least one model of SWA and an RWA to do it right. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 15:59:35 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:59:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory In-Reply-To: References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net> <015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> Message-ID: <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > The Holy Spirite (best described at the moment as a tub)has the following: > > > > Things it needs..... > Anything to do with the rear bumperettes including the interior braces. > seats > gauges > windscreen > engine /transmission > wiring harness > all lamps and gaskets > _______________________________________________ > > I have a running 1098 coupled to a ribcase of unknown condition. At least it's a start. Any new or good used 1098 clutch parts would help too. I have no idea (yet) what condition the clutch is in the 1098 but I will look. If you have a dead Bugeye harness pulled out because you installed a new harness, I can make one. I have most of a MKII harness but some one cut off the headlight leads near the bonnet hinge. Any Spridget smoked harness will help. Semi decent headlamp buckets too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 17:04:43 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:04:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake In-Reply-To: <48920F6B.9070101@verizon.net> References: <00fb01c8f28b$caf021d0$6401a8c0@universal1> <30D5EA539DB74A7E8CB3EEA9929AEF72@Home> <48920F6B.9070101@verizon.net> Message-ID: Lived in Mohegan Lake for about 2 months in 1968, moved to Mahopac and bought my first Sprite (for $100), never drove it in the snow. Bill > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:15:55 -0400 > From: cciaffone at verizon.net > To: billmasq at hotmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake > > We lived on Amazon Road in Mohegan Lake in '67. Drove a Corvair in those > days, and had to get thru snow up to the belly pan one night. > > chuck > > Bill Masquelier wrote: > > I DID live there in 1968 but not now (small world!) > > Bill > > > > Subject: [Spridgets] Mohegan Lake > > > > Anyone live near Mohegan Lake, NY? There is a possibility of a significant > > distress sale of a '68 Midget. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 31 17:39:34 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory In-Reply-To: <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net><015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> Frank Anything to do with the rear bumperettes including the interior braces. -- Got 'em (one of the braces needs to be welded) Gauges -- Got some Transmission -- I have a good Paul A rebuilt smooth case Wiring harness Any Spridget smoked harness will help If you have a dead Bugeye harness pulled out because you installed a new harness, I can make one. I have most of a MKII harness but some one cut off the headlight leads near the bonnet hinge. . -- My original that is pretty crappy looking (cotton covering shot) All lamps and gaskets -- I'll get back to you I have no idea (yet) what condition the clutch is in the 1098 but I will look. -- I have a new one for a 948 These will be in the boot when it arrives. Keep going. What else? Buster From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 31 19:54:46 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:54:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to measure/trial-fittires on In-Reply-To: <21C1277B3CCC4335A8262E3BD7B62838@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <056C2C9E83AA4ECD92189853EB14B530@OwnerPC> <21C1277B3CCC4335A8262E3BD7B62838@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4AD7C3285D574E40A154AA3DD966CE1B@OwnerPC> David, Sorry to hear of your sour experience with TireRack.com's personnel. I've been buying tires from them for just about 18 months, now, and I have been generally pleased with their service and prices. Of course, a local shop (owned by a long-time good friend and racing buddy), authorized by them does all of my tire mounting & balancing. I agree with your assessment of what cars they'd need, to get a good read on Sprite/Spridget tire needs. Hopefully some of the guys out that way will help them (and, thereby, the rest of us) out. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to measure/trial-fittires on > Bud, > They installed Sumitomo HTR200 175/70 13 tires on my 72 Midget at that > facility. Well, Actually they didn't touch my car, because it was busy > autocrossing on their test track with the Windy City Miata Club, but they > did mount and balance the tires on my Minitor rims for me... twice, since > they ignored my instructions on where they could not put weights as they > would get peeled off by the tierod end. Unfortunately, their company > representative made such an ass of himself the at the autocross event > following day that none of my cars and none of my money will ever cross > their threshold again. > > If they were to do this, I would think they would require a Bugeye, at > least one model of SWA and an RWA to do it right. > David Lieb > 1972 1960 1974 1973 From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 20:16:13 2008 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:16:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory In-Reply-To: <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net><015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> Message-ID: Has anyone spoken for headlamp buckets?- I have a couple of pair and can send some. Bill > From: b-evans at earthlink.net > To: spritenut at comcast.net; grbyrns at ucdavis.edu > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:39:34 -0700 > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory > > Frank > > > > Anything to do with the rear bumperettes including the interior braces. -- > Got 'em (one of the braces needs to be welded) > > > > Gauges -- Got some > > > > Transmission -- I have a good Paul A rebuilt smooth case > > > > Wiring harness Any Spridget smoked harness will help If you have a dead > Bugeye harness pulled out because you installed a new harness, I can make > one. I have most of a MKII harness but some one cut off the headlight leads > near the bonnet hinge. . -- My original that is pretty crappy looking > (cotton covering shot) > > > > All lamps and gaskets -- I'll get back to you > > > > I have no idea (yet) what condition the clutch is in the 1098 but I will > look. -- I have a new one for a 948 > > > > These will be in the boot when it arrives. > > > > Keep going. What else? > > > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 31 20:48:21 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:48:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory In-Reply-To: References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net><015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> Message-ID: <48927975.2030307@comcast.net> Bill Masquelier wrote: > Has anyone spoken for headlamp buckets?- I have a couple of pair and > can send some. > Vigil just donated a pair of seats, they will get to Buster's in a couple days. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Jul 31 21:00:46 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (B- Evans) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory In-Reply-To: <48927975.2030307@comcast.net> References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net><015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1> <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> <48927975.2030307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00DD31F533D4404E9C32CE23BE5F47B0@BEvans> Frank. I will also be sending along the drive shaft you sent, but that I did not need. Anything more on the list? Buster From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 31 21:27:30 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:27:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net><015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1><489235C7.3000909@comcast.net> <74B4F2CDEF4349DDAD07BCAB1F3FA5BA@BEvans> <48927975.2030307@comcast.net> Message-ID: <076d01c8f386$882b3780$4e947e4c@HP> Frank What type of mirrors will you be using? I have a brand new set of bullet mirrors complete with plinths and gaskets, MOSS #222-372. Some people love them and some people hate them, I don't care for them so I guess that is why they are still brand new. They are not perfect but they are very close as they have been on the shelf for a while. If you want them to use them let me know and I will ship to Buster or direct to you. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory > Bill Masquelier wrote: >> Has anyone spoken for headlamp buckets?- I have a couple of pair and >> can send some. >> > Vigil just donated a pair of seats, they will get to Buster's in a > couple days. > > > -- From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 31 22:31:34 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:31:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spirite Inventory part II Message-ID: <200808010431.m714VYPo017805@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> Closer inspection reveals: HAS: Gas tank, fuel line wire harness, regulator, fuse block, flasher Headlamp buckets actually look fair and have trims and lights chrome taillight bases are there and OK, Rear turns, poor no glass front turns, poor, no glass master cylinder and plumbing in place cockpit and door trim fair wiper motor and mech full dash of gauges with elec tach and working switches demister vents, hoses and flaps Lacks(that I didn't list the first time) heater box radiator and hoses wiper arms and bezels exhaust for a-series Glen