From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 1 00:26:44 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:26:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA In-Reply-To: <441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com> <441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1515680.20071231232644@pacifier.com> Hello Bill, Oh, we're missing more than that... when was the last time you had a decent PASTRAMI sandwich? .. have you had ANY REAL BAGELS...? anywhere on the west coast?.. How about a ham, egg and cheese on roll breakfast sandwich? the rolls out here just SUCK! .... and the drivers HESITATE! they don't know how to GO! .. i know you've seen 'em inch out.. inch a little more.... .. a little more.. then STOP! ... .. and merging? ... amateurs compared to the east coast... or even L.A... Meatball Heros?...... a DECENT FRICKING DELI!.. gawd how i miss east coast food!... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite If God is within, I hope he likes enchiladas! From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Jan 1 02:05:37 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 4:05:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: <30064505.1199178341308.JavaMail.root@wmvirt8> ---- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: The oil still looked pretty clean when it came and there was some metal particles that drained out with the oil. The sump plug, which is magnetic, had really fine metal sludge on it that wiped off. In fact the oil looked a whole lot better than the old that came out of the old engine before I pulled it. I agree with the others who say to change the filter now. Also, you can send a sample of the oil to a lab to be analyzed as to it's metallic contents. A friend of mine runs a high performance boat with twin supercharged 502s. He sends a sample to the lab at every oil change for analysis. It has saved him a fortune by predicting bearing wear due to the contents in the oil. Since the cylinders, rings and bearings are all made of different metals, they can be identified and severe wear can be predicted. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jan 1 02:52:13 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 09:52:13 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change In-Reply-To: <30064505.1199178341308.JavaMail.root@wmvirt8> Message-ID: <000001c84c5b$fd03f8d0$0201a8c0@Laptop> Kent wrote:.... I agree with the others who say to change the filter now. Also, you can send a sample of the oil to a lab to be analyzed as to it's metallic contents. A friend of mine runs a high performance boat with twin supercharged 502s. He sends a sample to the lab at every oil change for analysis. It has saved him a fortune by predicting bearing wear due to the contents in the oil. Since the cylinders, rings and bearings are all made of different metals, they can be identified and severe wear can be predicted. Kent Then what? You have had the oil analysed and it identifies which part of the engine the metal particals have come from. Assuming the engine is, as Daniel's, in a bedding in phase and wear is both anticipated and beneficial what do you do then with the information from the lab? Come to that, even on a run-in engine what beneficial use can the normal owner make of that sort of information? Guy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 31/12/2007 15:32 From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jan 1 03:48:44 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 05:48:44 EST Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: I'm considering re-painting and polishing it! In a message dated 01/01/2008 03:35:24 GMT Standard Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: Did you remove your W E S L A K E cover and clean it as well???? From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jan 1 03:52:03 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 05:52:03 EST Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: I figure that normally I'd expect the first filter to last 500 if not a 1000 miles. Anything filtered by the filter stays filtered. The filter isn't likely to be clogged at 100 miles let alone 500 or a 1000. Not least to do a 100 mile oil change is extra precautious for me and the oil didn't have that much in it and neither did the magnetic sump plug. Daniel1312 In a message dated 01/01/2008 04:11:53 GMT Standard Time, pilotrob at webtv.net writes: C'mon, Daniel.... if you have metal particles in the oil (not unexpected under the circumstances) then you have metal particles in the filter. Why would you take the chance of circulating new oil through a contaminated filter, to possibly re-distribute some of the metal contained within through your expensive engine....for the relatively EXTREMELY minor cost of a new filter? Happy New Year, mate..... CapBob ("watchin' your six":) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 1 04:22:44 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 11:22:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: "Anything filtered stays filtered" OK.....just thinkin' of the ($$$$$) motor, not the ($) filter. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Tue Jan 1 05:34:09 2008 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 07:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA In-Reply-To: <002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: Some of you will enjoy this. Go to Youtube and do a search on Steve Martin, then watch the one called "Okra Cola". -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+bogodwin=bellsouth.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Charlie Shelden Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 4:51 PM To: David Lieb Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA While Okra is ok in gumbo especially that, that comes from the state of LA., in which case there needs to be some crawfish involved. Around here you can't eat chicken fried steak unless you have mashed potatoe, cream gravey (the kind with the grease and unknown fryings from the pan), corn on cob and FRIED okra. Okra boiled, pickled, canned steamed etc...well it isn't good In MY opinion :) Charlie OKC,OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted >> in my opinion, brussel sprouts are icky! > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1961 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1204 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 12:20 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 3:32 PM From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 1 06:42:14 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:42:14 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: Not thinking of the metal particles which are large enough to be stopped/held by the fiter material, Crash. Thinking of the smaller metallic particulates which can't be stopped "cause they're small enough to "pass through", but which now sit in the oil "trapped" in the filter, thanks to the modern filter's anti-drainback feature. Seems a shame not to take advantage of this feature, in ALL respects. You know, the micronic swarf that gets by the filter, now held in suspension within the oil held in the filter will get dumped into the fresh oil Daniel just paid for on the next start-up. Same type of swarf which got through the filter last time around and which he just got through cleaning off his magnetic drain plug. And you know.... ....this particular small quantity of oil contained within the filter will probably be the MOST swarfage-contaminated small quantity of oil this new motor will ever see? Until it reaches the end of it's service life, normally. Oh, well....not my motor and one can only "suggest" in terms of another's. His money, his motor, so his decision. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Jan 1 08:00:47 2008 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 07:00:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA In-Reply-To: <1515680.20071231232644@pacifier.com> References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com><441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com> <1515680.20071231232644@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <005401c84c87$17844720$8700a8c0@PaulsToshiba> >a DECENT FRICKING DELI!.. gawd how i miss east coast food!... As a third generation California native my standard response is take Hwy 40 east. ;) From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 1 09:53:54 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:53:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Best Wishes for 2008 to One and All... Message-ID: <4779FFA2.24889.46025D@dmg.bossig.com> The subject says it all.... ;-)) - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From bpazur at excel.net Tue Jan 1 11:55:46 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 12:55:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA References: <880054.47211.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com><002801c84bf7$2b9d3ef0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx><4779029C.16845.1714708@dmg.bossig.com><441250190712312124wfb8ed9dw3604e5446e33e6a1@mail.gmail.com><1515680.20071231232644@pacifier.com> <005401c84c87$17844720$8700a8c0@PaulsToshiba> Message-ID: <000701c84ca7$eba88b40$1de867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> I spent 5 years ('73 to '78 - Frank -we might have crossed paths) in North Jersey - used to go slumming in SoHo every weekend when my (first) wife was working - that's when I hung out at CBGB's. Gawd I miss an East Coast sub! Bud Pazur ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Van Wig" To: "'Bill L'" ; "'Bill Gilroy'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA > >a DECENT FRICKING DELI!.. gawd how i miss east coast food!... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 1 12:28:08 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:28:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Happy New Year Message-ID: <018e01c84cac$71192ba0$0401a8c0@midget> A word to the wise, Beware of kindly neighbors who put snowthrowers in their trash piles ;-) My "free" snowthrower has now done its third snowfall. Free is in quotes because it turned out to have a stripped auger gear. $95 worth of parts later, it was running again. The local lawnmower parts store was a little reluctant to order the gear for me... they seemed to think they were likely to have a return on their hands. I finally had to convince them by confessing that I had a British car (mandatory LBC content). That was enough to get the part ordered (payment in advance of course). I was happy to see the new gear was brass instead of the aluminium that composed the old one. We got about four inches last night, so I got up this morning, fired up that old 8-horse Tecumseh, and spent the next three hours clearing sidewalks and driveways. Due to a watermain project, a lot of sidewalk here is gravel, so I went through a few shear-pins, but I sure moved a lot of snow ;-) David Lieb From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Jan 1 12:22:20 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:22:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: <3829366.1199215349308.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> ---- Guy Weller wrote: Then what? You have had the oil analysed and it identifies which part of the engine the metal particals have come from. Assuming the engine is, as Daniel's, in a bedding in phase and wear is both anticipated and beneficial what do you do then with the information from the lab? Come to that, even on a run-in engine what beneficial use can the normal owner make of that sort of information? I agree that the normal running in process will cause a certain amount of metallic contaminants... I threw the idea of having the oil analyzed out there because Daniel's email sorta had an air of concern to it, like he might think that the quantity was excessive for break in. Anytime one spends their hard-earned money on expensive upgrades, they wish to protect their investment. If, in fact, there is no concern on Daniel's behalf, there is no reason to have the oil analyzed. Most guys that I know who build performance engines are fanatical about doing it right and double checking them. When it comes to high performance boats, there is a lot more labor involved in R&R-ing the engines. Here again, most of the high perf boat owners have money to burn too! Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From hal at katemuir.com Tue Jan 1 12:35:31 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 11:35:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Here I must concur with Jim! Always thought Okra was NASTY stuff. But then some frineds from down Memphis way had me over to dinner. Now I'm a changed man. I look forward to okra every chance I get to have it properly prepared. If it's prepared by someone from north of the Mason-Dixon line, forget it! Hal On 12/31/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > Obviously, you have not had pickled okra > Or pan fried, breaded okra. Or deep fried, breaded okra... Damned Yankees.... - From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Jan 1 12:42:17 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:42:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: <4927318.1199216541884.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Come to that, even on a run-in engine what beneficial use can the normal owner make of that sort of information? Hi Guy, I forgot to answer the question that you posed... Sorry but I just turned old! The reason for oil analysis is to determine the extent of material in the oil and its source. Most labs over here that do this are experienced enough to predict the condition of things as they are very specialized. For example, rod and main bearings are made of different metals within each part. When the mating surface material wears through, the underlying material will then be exposed to wear and will become a contaminant in the oil too. The presence of the underlying metal will tell the analyst that the bearing has significantly worn. The amount of that contaminant in a measured amount of oil will also indicate the likelihood of imminant failure. Between the lab's experience and the manufacturer's database, they are usually spot on. My buddy with the twin blown 502s in his boat has about $30 K each to worry about should they grenade! He would rather find the problem before it discloses itself in the form of a failed engine. Much cheaper to replace bearings, rings, or whatever before the rod goes through the side of the block... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jan 1 13:06:43 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:06:43 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change In-Reply-To: <4927318.1199216541884.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Message-ID: <007401c84cb1$e3db46a0$0501a8c0@MAIN> Hi Kent, I thought after I posted my message that it might sound as if I was doubting, or challenging you! I wasn't - it was a genuine question! I couldn't immediately visualise what action an owner might take. But thinking more about this,...if told that the oil was indicating, for example, a lot of cylinder bore wear. Change to a different oil perhaps? Or select a different thermostat valve to run at a higher or lower temperature? Yes, I guess there would be things that might be done. Quite apart from "time for a major rebuild" !! Guy -----Original Message----- From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com [mailto:bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com] Sent: 01 January 2008 19:42 To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Come to that, even on a run-in engine what beneficial use can the normal owner make of that sort of information? Hi Guy, I forgot to answer the question that you posed... Sorry but I just turned old! The reason for oil analysis is to determine the extent of material in the oil and its source. Most labs over here that do this are experienced enough to predict the condition of things as they are very specialized. For example, rod and main bearings are made of different metals within each part. When the mating surface material wears through, the underlying material will then be exposed to wear and will become a contaminant in the oil too. The presence of the underlying metal will tell the analyst that the bearing has significantly worn. The amount of that contaminant in a measured amount of oil will also indicate the likelihood of imminant failure. Between the lab's experience and the manufacturer's database, they are usually spot on. My buddy with the twin blown 502s in his boat has about $30 K each to worry about should they grenade! He would rather find the problem before it discloses itself in the form of a failed engine. Much cheaper to replace bearings, rings, or whatever before the rod goes through the side of the block... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 31/12/2007 15:32 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1205 - Release Date: 31/12/2007 15:32 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 1 13:47:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 15:47:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change In-Reply-To: <4927318.1199216541884.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> References: <4927318.1199216541884.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Message-ID: My poor memory serves me poorly, but if you ever feel that you have a just claim on one of those extended warranties on the power train and think you might be in for a fight after the engine explodes ... that's a good time to do the oil analysis. I really forget the details, but I think that I was trying to prove sudden failure rather than the "slow death" that they were trying to tell me happened. They were shocked to find out that I took some of the oil and paid to have it analysed. -----Original Message----- From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Come to that, even on a run-in engine what beneficial use can the normal owner make of that sort of information? From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 1 13:57:29 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 12:57:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change In-Reply-To: References: <4927318.1199216541884.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88>, Message-ID: <477A38B9.12922.124FF81@dmg.bossig.com> I used to own a Taylorcraft... Every 100 hours running time, I would send the oil filters in for analysys... >From one who knows.... finding particles of White metal in the filter is NOT good news.... it may have prevented a sudden descent into Mother Earth!! It might just be as beneficial as a warning that your (expensively) rebuilt engine might need some attention!! - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jan 1 14:52:36 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:52:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] New Engine oil change Message-ID: Probably down to me posting when I'm tired. To do the 100 mile oil change is extra cautious for me. The oil filter is a K&N so ought to be better than the standard Unipart offering. I used to use Unipart's premium brand because it had a magnetic trap in it but they stopped making that one years ago. The particles in the oil were nothing out of the ordinary and the magenetic sump plug only had really fine stuff on it. The oil had a good oily colour, clean and NO sign of looking like silver paint! So, no concern on my part just keeping the list updated. Also I finished fitting a set of speed bleeders today and am very pleased with them. The main reason I switched was a search for a stainless steel nipple and that led me to to the stainless steel speed bleed. My car has 8 inch rear drums for which the slave cylinders are aluminium so I was particularly pleased to get a steel nipple into them. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 01/01/2008 19:29:31 GMT Standard Time, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com writes: Daniel's email sorta had an air of concern to it From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jan 1 14:55:26 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 16:55:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation engines was Re: New Engine oil change Message-ID: I think they do a lot of analysis on aviation engines - not sure if this is piston or turbo prop. It gives them maximum engine time before a rebuild or some other strip down - I think? There is also a special device like a fancy can-opener that you use to open your engine's oil filter so you can see what kind of stuff it is filtering. I think aircraft spruce might do them. Regards Daniel In a message dated 01/01/2008 20:07:46 GMT Standard Time, guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes: I couldn't immediately visualise what action an owner might take. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 1 15:13:36 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:13:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > lazy as fuck Yankee Some people on this list get really upset if you talk about Curto that way. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 1 17:11:34 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:11:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't say no names...... On 1/1/08, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > lazy as fuck Yankee > Some people on this list get really upset if you talk about Curto that > way. > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jan 1 17:13:36 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:13:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA References: Message-ID: <066601c84cd4$51bbd0a0$6501a8c0@refisk> Brad, He can't fix your carbs because he misplaced his vise-grips. As soon as he finds them he'll get right on it. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Billy Zoom" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted now OKRA >I didn't say no names...... > > On 1/1/08, Billy Zoom wrote: >> >> > lazy as fuck Yankee >> Some people on this list get really upset if you talk about Curto that >> way. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 1 17:51:00 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:51:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0712311145n339dc919m56c0ee8c2275bbf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801011651i17ba9a91s7be335ba4e0c042a@mail.gmail.com> No, there are some nasty Southern Okra types, too. Fried or pickled = good. Just about anything else = slimy. Sometimes you can get away with slimy but only in some gumbos and similar. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 1 18:07:46 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:07:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801011707y4f5b3959kb76f5d129a025475@mail.gmail.com> Bookmark this one.... Herb http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 1 19:29:30 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:29:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801011707y4f5b3959kb76f5d129a025475@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801011707y4f5b3959kb76f5d129a025475@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ... and remember this is SPECIFICALLY for new cars not 50 year old ones w/ 50 year old castings etc.. Lester On Jan 1, 2008, at 7:07 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Bookmark this one.... > Herb > > http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm From dmeadow at juno.com Tue Jan 1 19:47:21 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 20:47:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuck in first Message-ID: <20080101.204721.904.2.dmeadow@juno.com> I've got a straight-cut gearbox that is stuck in first gear. I previously had a stock gearbox with this same problem. I just removed the side plate and pushed in the little balls while jiggling the gear lever and it came loose pretty easily. I've since installed a spacer on the shaft in that 'box to keep it from happening again. This time I've applied the same method and got nowhere. Well, actually, I did get the shaft to move a bit and the fork to shake around, but I haven't been able to get it out of first. There doesn't seem to be pressure on the balls, so it seems that something else is binding on it. Anyone have a suggestion as to what to try next? Thanks! David From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 1 20:14:23 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:14:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <247484.74324.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Lester wrote: > ... and remember this is SPECIFICALLY for new cars > not 50 year old > ones w/ 50 year old castings etc.. Agreed. You can get away with it (like in a race engine) if a torque plate is used when boring. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Jan 1 23:19:59 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 22:19:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] was Aviation engines was Re: New Engine oil change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801c84d07$81c880d0$6b7ba8c0@edgewireless.com> I have an airplane as well as a sprite, So I'm a little bit qualified to throw my two cents in. Oil analysis is used for a variety of applications, Marine, Aviation, fixed generators (I also have a few cellular sites with 35kw generators), etc. The main thing about using Oil analysis is trending over multiple samples. You want to lookout for any increases in certain types of materials. For example: If the ppm of copper changes drastically between changes, you've started to eat a bearing. Or say your aluminum jumps up, if you have a Lycoming, you've probably started to eat a piston plug. I seen a few airplane owners freak out about their first lab report showing steel and chrome etc. every report will show some metal. every engine is slightly different in how it wears, the trick is watching it across quite a few samples. Sometimes, It'll give you a heads up to excessive wear and prevent a catastrophic failure, but not always,. Cutting oil filters: I always do it on the plane, look for chunks, or ferrous material. Cheap insurance and gives me something to do while the last of the oil drains.. From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Wed Jan 2 09:15:25 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 10:15:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo? DON'T MISS THE ARKANSAS OZARKS In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0712270840v741d4102ua0cc85eae91ba54f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60384EDCC@glitas07.garverinc.local> Having lived all my life (so far) in Arkansas, I've driven the Ozarks uncountabazillion times in the Sprite and/or the big Healey. It's the most wonderful LBC driving I could ever imagine - and I have been many other places too. If you're coming from the south, southeast, southwest or west your travel would be well enhanced if you come thru the Arkansas Ozarks north of I-40 on your way to MO this June. There are many roads and routes to choose from including the Pig Trail (which makes me squirm in my office chair just thinking about it). If you find yourself passing near central Arkansas you'll wanna stop off at McLeod's British Cars at Maumelle and check out the huge inventory of new and used LBC parts and cars you'll ever come across. See ya'll there!! Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:40 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo? Bill and all, There has been some discussion of putting a few convoys together from other regions as well. Offers for special treatment along the way are in place for Blytheville, AR and Eureka Springs, AR. The Mayor of Blytheville himself will be attending the event and has offered to host people passing through Blytheville from the southeast. Eureka Springs is only a few hours south of the event site and is actually the northern terminus of the famed "Pig Trail" on Arkansas Highway 23 - one of America's top ten roads as rated by Car & Driver. There was some talk about a group coming from the far Southeast and also from the Northeast and from Southern California. We probably need to set up some sort of clearing house for this as has been suggested though I'm not sure of the best way to do it. Suggestions much appreciated! I'm thinking of trying to piece together some sort of frappr map which would identify the stops along each convoy route to Lake of the Ozarks. Whadda ya think? "50 Years of Spridgets" is rapidly shaping up to be a wonderful rally and we are getting excited about all the fun to come! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 2 09:52:54 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:52:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 Message-ID: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> Here is my test part for POR15 which might as well be known as Piss On Rust because that would give you the same results. This is a Sprite rear bumper bracket that I painted with the crap some years back and stuck it in a dry storage area, it never got wet since the poor 15 was applied to it. So if anybody uses this stuff, better plan on redoing what ever you painted with it. I knew it was crap when I did the footwell in a 69 Sprite and although the top and bottom were still painted, the rust kept going and the footwell fell out. Nothing stops rust, it has to be cut out. As you can see here. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/por15.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 2 10:16:19 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:16:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 References: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001e01c84d63$30f2aad0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Here is my test part for POR15 which might as well be known as > Piss On Rust because that would give you the same results. That is pretty much the same conclusion that Eastwood came to. It does a good job of sealing the item, but that is just not enough. It also does not react well with UV, etc. This article in their tech section compares their rust encapsulation product with POR15 http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump.jsp?itemID=852&itemType=CATEGORY&iMainCat=688&iSubCat=852 or http://tinyurl.com/2jnuy David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 10:24:42 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:24:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> References: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801020924v326c9abdtb0faa31300b5092d@mail.gmail.com> >From the FWIW department.... I've used POR15 and KREAM in the motorcycle restoration process very successfully for many years. In that application it is used to line the inside of the gas tank and Frank is absolutely correct that it won't "stop" rust. Instead it works very well to "prevent" rust. Many restorers of old motorcycles use it. They first fill the tank with nuts, bolts, and bits of chain, then put the wrapped tank into a cement mixer and rotate it for about a day. Afterward, flush it out and then coat the inside with POR15 by rolling the tank around until the entire inside is coated with a layer of the stuff. Once dry, the outside of the tank is refinished. I've seen tanks 30 years old done this way with no sign of bubbles or rust beneath the POR15 layer. You have to get the rust out of there first. All that said, I have zero experience with using it on external surfaces. Still, it is a rubbery coating so if you allow moisture to gather under that coating, rust will start again like Frank's bumper bracket. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... P.S. Good News!!! I know it's already 2008, but for those interested, it appears that within a week or so the "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars will be ready!! You will find them at the event store at: < http://www.cafepress.com/spridget/> Many thanks to all who submitted pictures of your cars and/or yourselves! David Lieb has done a masterful job in putting it together with assistance from Larry Daniels. You are going to LOVE it!! On 1/2/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Here is my test part for POR15 which might as well be known as > Piss On Rust because that would give you the same results. > This is a Sprite rear bumper bracket that I painted with the crap some > years back and stuck it in a dry storage area, it never got wet since > the poor 15 was applied to it. > So if anybody uses this stuff, better plan on redoing what ever you > painted with it. > I knew it was crap when I did the footwell in a 69 Sprite and although > the top and bottom were still painted, the rust kept going and the > footwell fell out. > Nothing stops rust, it has to be cut out. > As you can see here. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/por15.jpg From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 2 10:43:15 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:43:15 EST Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in Message-ID: And you change the main and big end bearings every racing season. I'm suspicious of the article because I can't imagine the bottom end of a motorcycle has much in common with the bottom end of car, or have motorcycle engines changed in recent years. Pistons and rings have a lot more in common across motorcycles and cars except motorcycles to more high rpm. As far as the MORE power goes - how long do you get MORE power for - until you sell it 12,000 miles later or not as long as that. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 02/01/2008 03:15:02 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: Agreed. You can get away with it (like in a race engine) if a torque plate is used when boring. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 11:13:35 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:13:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801021013t6a39225t947f3fbefed35670@mail.gmail.com> Daniel, Depends on the motorcycle. My BMW K model is an inline 4 cylinder virtually identical to a car engine except for the lubrication system since the engine mounts with the pistons moving sideways instead of up and down. Makes it very easy to get to both top and bottom end without taking the engine out of the frame. It has a 3 main bearing crank with big end bearings just alike a car. Stresses may be different than a car, but the design of many motorcycle bottom ends is very similar to a car - IE. a crank, main bearings and big end bearings. In fact, the top end is where some motorcycles differ greatly from cars - I'm thinking 2 strokes here. Reed valves....etc. Cheers!! Jim On 1/2/08, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > And you change the main and big end bearings every racing season. I'm > suspicious of the article because I can't imagine the bottom end of a > motorcycle > has much in common with the bottom end of car, or have motorcycle engines > changed in recent years. > > Pistons and rings have a lot more in common across motorcycles and cars > except motorcycles to more high rpm. > > As far as the MORE power goes - how long do you get MORE power for - until > you sell it 12,000 miles later or not as long as that. > > Regards > > Daniel1312 From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jan 2 11:19:49 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:19:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting Message-ID: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> And speaking of Eastwood. . . They have a short video about their soda blasting products. They use a Spridget to demonstrate. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 2 11:35:36 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:35:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting References: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <09b401c84d6e$443b2fd0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting And speaking of Eastwood. . . They have a short video about their soda blasting products. They use a Spridget to demonstrate. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite _______________________________________________ Soda should be mixed with Scotch. LAD From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 2 12:50:43 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:50:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001b01c84d78$c35e2380$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Frank, Looks to me like the surface was contaminated with something, besides rust, when you applied POR-15. My experience with POR-15 has been that; if you follow the application instructions carefully, the stuff works very well. One thing for sure is that if you Paint Over Rust which isn't first very aggressively treated with sandpaper, wire wheel, sand-blasting, or acid solution (or some combination of the above); it won't work. Period. Nothing that I've ever seen will work for very long on scaly, or loose rust. "Rust converters" are a joke, and that is my professional (marine surveyor) opinion. Of course, I've never (professionally) recommended POR-15, either. Coal tar epoxy is, by far, the most durable stuff I've yet experienced. But, ANY coating system is, in the long run, only as good as the surface preparation that preceded it's application. In spite of what marketing types try to tell us; there's no "silver bullet" for rust. If you want to get rid of it (I'm not talking about "surface rust" here); cut it out. Even sand-blasting may not entirely eliminate the possibility of a later recurrence of rust. Keeping the above in mind, I have, in the unheated, occasionally damp part of my garage/pole barn, a restored VW chassis, which I sandblasted and coated with POR-15 about 3 or 4 years ago (one of these days I'll get around to finishing that restoration). The building has an un-insulated, metal roof, so it "rains" inside on cool/cold, sunny mornings all year. There have been no problems with the coating on that chassis. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:53 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 Here is my test part for POR15 which might as well be known as Piss On Rust because that would give you the same results. This is a Sprite rear bumper bracket that I painted with the crap some years back and stuck it in a dry storage area, it never got wet since the poor 15 was applied to it. So if anybody uses this stuff, better plan on redoing what ever you painted with it. I knew it was crap when I did the footwell in a 69 Sprite and although the top and bottom were still painted, the rust kept going and the footwell fell out. Nothing stops rust, it has to be cut out. As you can see here. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/por15.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 13:18:58 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:18:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> References: <477BC166.8040805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801021218n3c21ee1do708abae8fc5f8375@mail.gmail.com> I have had good results with Phosphoric Acid (Oshpo is one brand name). But, rust IS like cancer and you can't really treat it, you just have to get rid of it. Cheers, Derf From kramer.allen at comcast.net Wed Jan 2 13:49:35 2008 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:49:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 Message-ID: <010220082049.11318.477BF8DF0008316D00002C362207001641020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> This past summer I spent time fixing rust spots on my daughters car. The spots were only starting under the paint on the rockers. Followed all the instructions using POR15. Well she came home from college for Christmas and it looks like I will be replacing metal this coming summer. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Frank Clarici > Here is my test part for POR15 which might as well be known as > Piss On Rust because that would give you the same results. > This is a Sprite rear bumper bracket that I painted with the crap some > years back and stuck it in a dry storage area, it never got wet since > the poor 15 was applied to it. > So if anybody uses this stuff, better plan on redoing what ever you > painted with it. > I knew it was crap when I did the footwell in a 69 Sprite and although > the top and bottom were still painted, the rust kept going and the > footwell fell out. > Nothing stops rust, it has to be cut out. > As you can see here. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/por15.jpg > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kramer.allen at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 2 13:57:48 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 14:57:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan? to 50th in Mo? DON'T MISS THE ARKANSAS OZARKS References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60384EDCC@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <003601c84d82$220e5130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > ... There are many roads > and routes to choose from including the Pig Trail... Having experienced the Pig Trail a couple years ago, I will be happy to agree that it is worth a significant detour to drive it. In fact, the first thing I checked when the location was announced was how far of a drive it would be. It is a different kind of fun drive from the Tail of the Dragon, but even better in some ways (like the absence of cops with nothing better to do). David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 2 14:04:11 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:04:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: <010220082049.11318.477BF8DF0008316D00002C362207001641020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: > The spots were only starting under the paint That means the whole panel is rusting from the inside, and those bubbles are the spots where it's all the way through. You can't fix it from the outside. You have to cut it out, and weld in new metal. No product is going to fix that kind of problem, but drilling holes and spraying some Waxoyl type stuff inside the panel would have slowed it down. You can't blame POR-15 for that one. BZ From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jan 2 14:28:00 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:28:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? Message-ID: So, while plowing out of the most recent Michigan snow with my '53 Ford NAA "red belly," the thing conks out (very unusual). While trying to track down the problem (turned out to be a bad condenser), I noticed the coil + terminal was wired to a ceramic doo-hickey behind the dash. The doohickey was getting battery voltage in, and it was showing the expected 12.6 volts at its other terminal. BUT as soon as I re-connected the wire to the coil, that terminal read just over 6 volts. Ahhh, says I with a smug smile. Not to worry. This must be an external ballast for the coil. Question #1: Is it? Question #2: How come I only saw voltage drop when I connected the coil? Teach me. -JohnD From bpazur at excel.net Wed Jan 2 14:29:41 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:29:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 Message-ID: <200801022129.m02LTgA6002034@green.excel.net> Derf writes: I have had good results with Phosphoric Acid (Oshpo is one brand name). But, rust IS like cancer and you can't really treat it, you just have to get rid of it. Cheers, Derf I agree. I have used Ospho (not Oshpo, I think) very successfully for two restorations, but I used at as a passivator - after sand blasting, I used Ospho to passivate the surface so the metal wouldn't start to rust again before I got it primed. Worked very well for that purpose. I have never seen a product that completely passivates or encapsulates rust, however. It must be removed physically IMHO. Bud From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 2 15:31:41 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:31:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002b01c84d8f$3f6b0720$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Billy is absolutely correct. Those spots were caused by the rust perforating the steel under the paint. A lot of guys, when they see some small, tight bubbles forming on their car's paint, will call it "surface rust". That is only wishful thinking. When those bubbles show up, it's time to "crop & renew" (cut out and replace). Might as well just accept the inevitable, and get on with it instead of wasting time and money on applying band-aids. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:04 PM To: kramer.allen at comcast.net; Frank Clarici; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] POR 15 > The spots were only starting under the paint That means the whole panel is rusting from the inside, and those bubbles are the spots where it's all the way through. You can't fix it from the outside. You have to cut it out, and weld in new metal. No product is going to fix that kind of problem, but drilling holes and spraying some Waxoyl type stuff inside the panel would have slowed it down. You can't blame POR-15 for that one. BZ From kvacek at ameritech.net Wed Jan 2 14:37:24 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:37:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in References: Message-ID: <003f01c84d87$aa1e5f20$6e01a8c0@KARL> Aircraft engines also need to be broken in pretty similarly to the article referenced, and for the same reason. As far as boring accuracy, If the bores aren't true, break-in technique probably won't help much in any event, and babying will only make it worse. The pressure in the cylinders gets behind the compression rings and expands them into the cylinder, wearing them in to a good fit. If that doesn't happen, oil will burn into the voids and prevent proper seating from ever occurring. Many rings are actually beveled on the top inside corner (or tapered a bit inside) to ensure that gas pressurecan get into the area between the ring and the piston groove for just that purpose. My Stearman was babied by the guy who restored it, and he failed to bed the rings in a fresh set of Cermichrome cylinders after 50 hours. The engine guy then sent him a fresh set of plain steel cylinders, but he glazed those up too, again by babying it. He figured it had to be something else, and had the mags rebuilt ($1500), but it still fouled. I bought it (not knowing about the problem) with 50 hours on the replacement cylinders and had constant fouling on the bottom 2 cylinders from the first hour, and above-normal oil consumption. After a year, I pulled those two cylinders, honed them, installed new rings, and broke it in like the book says (flew it at the top of the cruise RPM range, long flights with little idling) and voila - no fouling, not even once, in 35 hours. As far as saving the bottom end during break-in, once there's oil pressure, there should NOT be any metal-to-metal contact in plain bearings. That's what the oil is for. Hydrodynamic pressure keeps an oil film between the surfaces, as long as the pump keeps a supply to them. Especially with today's oils. Plain bearings wear out on start-up, or under horrendous loads without enough oil film, not in normal running. A friend once talked about taking a power plant generator apart after many years of non-stop running, and the (plain) bearings still had the scraper marks from their original fitting, because they'd never touched metal-to-metal since initial start-up. Karl Vacek > And you change the main and big end bearings every racing season. I'm > suspicious of the article because I can't imagine the bottom end of a > motorcycle > has much in common with the bottom end of car, or have motorcycle engines > changed in recent years. > > Pistons and rings have a lot more in common across motorcycles and cars > except motorcycles to more high rpm. > > As far as the MORE power goes - how long do you get MORE power for - until > you sell it 12,000 miles later or not as long as that. > > Regards > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 02/01/2008 03:15:02 GMT Standard Time, > soavero at yahoo.com > writes: > > Agreed. You can get away with it (like in a race > engine) if a torque plate is used when boring. > > Ron From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 2 14:40:03 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 13:40:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? References: Message-ID: <000801c84d88$091e4990$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sounds just like an external ballast reisistor. Check the resistance between the coil terminals. If its very low, then that doohicky is just what you think. As for question 2, no idea at all. > So, while plowing out of the most recent Michigan snow with my '53 Ford > NAA "red belly," the thing conks out (very unusual). While trying to > track down the problem (turned out to be a bad condenser), I noticed the > coil + terminal was wired to a ceramic doo-hickey behind the dash. The > doohickey was getting battery voltage in, and it was showing the > expected 12.6 volts at its other terminal. BUT as soon as I > re-connected the wire to the coil, that terminal read just over 6 volts. > Ahhh, says I with a smug smile. Not to worry. This must be an external > ballast for the coil. > > Question #1: Is it? > > Question #2: How come I only saw voltage drop when I connected the coil? > > Teach me. > > -JohnD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grbyrns at ucdavis.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kvacek at ameritech.net Wed Jan 2 14:44:40 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:44:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? References: <000801c84d88$091e4990$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <007201c84d88$ae2488a0$6e01a8c0@KARL> As for #2, it's because there isn't a voltage drop when there's no significant current (load), just your tiny meter, which doesn't provide much load. Once you connect the coil, current flows, and the resistor does its thing, resisting the flow of current, and so the voltage drops. Karl > Sounds just like an external ballast reisistor. Check the resistance > between the coil terminals. If its very low, then that doohicky is just > what you think. As for question 2, no idea at all. > >> So, while plowing out of the most recent Michigan snow with my '53 Ford >> NAA "red belly," the thing conks out (very unusual). While trying to >> track down the problem (turned out to be a bad condenser), I noticed the >> coil + terminal was wired to a ceramic doo-hickey behind the dash. The >> doohickey was getting battery voltage in, and it was showing the >> expected 12.6 volts at its other terminal. BUT as soon as I >> re-connected the wire to the coil, that terminal read just over 6 volts. >> Ahhh, says I with a smug smile. Not to worry. This must be an external >> ballast for the coil. >> >> Question #1: Is it? >> >> Question #2: How come I only saw voltage drop when I connected the coil? >> >> Teach me. >> >> -JohnD From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Wed Jan 2 14:49:40 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 13:49:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? References: <000801c84d88$091e4990$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <004a01c84d89$613b1760$db77534c@Music> #2 think of it like your garden hose, if you just open the valve it builds presure but when you open the hose nozzel only a little actually flows after the burst. The resistor controls the flow of electricy the same way, 12 v at non use but drops on demand. Jon > Sounds just like an external ballast reisistor. Check the resistance > between the coil terminals. If its very low, then that doohicky is just > what you think. As for question 2, no idea at all. > >> So, while plowing out of the most recent Michigan snow with my '53 Ford >> NAA "red belly," the thing conks out (very unusual). While trying to >> track down the problem (turned out to be a bad condenser), I noticed the >> coil + terminal was wired to a ceramic doo-hickey behind the dash. The >> doohickey was getting battery voltage in, and it was showing the >> expected 12.6 volts at its other terminal. BUT as soon as I >> re-connected the wire to the coil, that terminal read just over 6 volts. >> Ahhh, says I with a smug smile. Not to worry. This must be an external >> ballast for the coil. >> >> Question #1: Is it? >> >> Question #2: How come I only saw voltage drop when I connected the coil? >> >> Teach me. >> >> -JohnD >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as grbyrns at ucdavis.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jpaschke at bak.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 2 14:50:24 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:50:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Question #1: Is it? Yes > Question #2: How come I only saw voltage drop when I connected the coil? Because there's only a voltage drop when current is flowing through the resistor. How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Jan 2 14:55:18 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:55:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nothing should be mixed with whiskey! On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Soda should be mixed with Scotch. > > LAD From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 15:24:39 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:24:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Because the 350 SBC under the hood is a 12 volt engine....... That is why almost all the hot rodders use the Chebby engine, it will keep the ford running. On Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 15:31:59 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:31:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801021431g7f9363cbh8e815ecdeac62e20@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 2, 2008 3:55 PM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > Nothing should be mixed with whiskey! > > > On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > Soda should be mixed with Scotch. > > > > LAD He who puts soda or anything else in my single malt displays a death wish..... ;-) Jim From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 2 15:37:13 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:37:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 References: <43840a7e0801021431g7f9363cbh8e815ecdeac62e20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a2501c84d90$09060d00$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 On Jan 2, 2008 3:55 PM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > Nothing should be mixed with whiskey! > > > On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > Soda should be mixed with Scotch. > > > > LAD He who puts soda or anything else in my single malt displays a death wish..... ;-) Jim _______________________________________________ EZ, guys, it is just a common mix among those of no taste. Certainly nothing I would adulterate a good scotch with. The only thing that goes in my scotch is ice. OK, neat purists, your turn. LAD From kvacek at ameritech.net Wed Jan 2 15:52:33 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:52:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] First oil change & break in References: Message-ID: <002801c84d92$29cfd730$6e01a8c0@KARL> Depends - redlines are typically much lower than high-preformance cars, anywhere from 2100 to 2800 RPM usually. But remember that the RPM is related to stroke length, and aircraft generally have longer strokes than cars, so maximum piston surface speed isn't all that much lower. RPM's are usually limited in aircraft by propeller tip speed, though. If the tips go supersonic the prop loses efficiency and noise is high - think of an aerobatic plane in a dive at an airshow. Point is that slow running at light throttle during break-in glazes cylinders. You want to maximize the pressure in the cylinders, and that comes at wide throttle settings. Karl OK, very interesting. My only question is what kind of rpm do piston aviation engines run at? Regards Daniel1312 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 2 16:08:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:08:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <0a2501c84d90$09060d00$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <43840a7e0801021431g7f9363cbh8e815ecdeac62e20@mail.gmail.com> <0a2501c84d90$09060d00$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801021508m2140dc83lf54bb2445bc68a2c@mail.gmail.com> Okay Larry, I'll cut you a little slack *this* time, but be aware in the future if you put so much as your finger into a good single malt Torquemada and the Scottish Inquisition will be knocking at your door... ;-) Thanks for the work on the calendar project and for agreeing to help with the Funkhana. The calendar is going to be really nice! Jim Danielson from Lincoln, NE is going to head up the Funkhana now so you'll be working with him. He's done these a lot of times so should be easy to work with. Cheers!! Jim On Jan 2, 2008 4:37 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3 > > > On Jan 2, 2008 3:55 PM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > > > Nothing should be mixed with whiskey! > > > > > > On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:00 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > > > Soda should be mixed with Scotch. > > > > > > LAD > > > He who puts soda or anything else in my single malt displays a death > wish..... ;-) > Jim > _______________________________________________ > > EZ, guys, it is just a common mix among those of no taste. Certainly > nothing I would adulterate a good scotch with. > > The only thing that goes in my scotch is ice. OK, neat purists, your > turn. > > > LAD From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 2 18:12:21 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:12:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > why almost all the hot rodders use the Chebby engine I always thought it was because they lacked imagination and couldn't do anything original. Sort of like everyone playing Les Pauls or Strats. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 2 18:18:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 19:18:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? References: Message-ID: <021301c84da6$7fc9ca60$0401a8c0@midget> >> why almost all the hot rodders use the Chebby engine > I always thought it was because they lacked imagination and couldn't do > anything original. Sort of like everyone playing Les Pauls or Strats. Yeah, really! You would think they would all go out and get some sand-casting equipment and a machine shop and design their own engines for Pete's sake! Why be a slave to the GM compromise machine? From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jan 2 19:53:46 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:53:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <477BDDBA.14183.248A928@dmg.bossig.com> Is a Giannini acceptable??? On 2 Jan 2008 at 17:12, Billy Zoom wrote: >> > why almost all the hot rodders use the Chebby engine >> I always thought it was because they lacked imagination and >> couldn't do >> anything original. Sort of like everyone playing Les Pauls or >> Strats. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 2 22:30:33 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 00:30:33 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Dymock Book Message-ID: <19768444.1199338233133.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This is a shameless self-promotion. If anyone is interested in obtaining a copy of Eric Dymock's out-of-print book: The Sprites and Midgets, I just listed a mint, sealed copy on ebay at item #120205707095. This is a rare book first published in 1981. Thanks for your indulgence. jay fishbein wallingford, ct From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Jan 2 23:23:10 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:23:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Chebby Engine! (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <021301c84da6$7fc9ca60$0401a8c0@midget> References: <021301c84da6$7fc9ca60$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <1253317008.20080102222310@pacifier.com> Hello, Geee.. and her i was thinking the reason that Hot Rodders used Chevy engines was because ... you get the most bang for the Buck! .. There are sooo many of them, there are soo many manufacturers of speed parts for them, .. you can build to ANY level, .. from KRATE engines to ALL out.. ... .. .. .. the only competitive engines are from FORD.. .. go ahead.. price speed sparts... .. price crates... look at options... .. only a fanatic would opt for a Pontiac or Olds... or CADDY? (well the NOrthSTAR engines ARE VERY NICE..).. but again.. bang for the Buck....?...... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite Alcohol and calculus don't mix. Never drink and derive. From BCAH at aol.com Thu Jan 3 00:40:55 2008 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 02:40:55 EST Subject: [Spridgets] timing cover part 2 Message-ID: Another thing to consider when dealing with the timing cover is that on some "A" series engines (Mini?) the timing index is on the top for easier viewing,-----Bob C in KS **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From vern at srvinet.com Thu Jan 3 08:08:52 2008 From: vern at srvinet.com (vern at srvinet.com) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:08:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye windshield installation Message-ID: <477CFA84.40001@srvinet.com> It seems not too long ago there was a discussion about replacing the gasket on a bugeye and how difficult it is. The gasket on mine is really weatherd and I am considering replacing it. It this a really daunting deal? Would appreciate any opinions from those of you who have actually done it. Vern -- See my 59 bugeye 78 MGB 79 midget RB at: http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/ From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jan 3 09:26:43 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004101c84e25$6d4bcda0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> O.K. you guys. You got the ol' wheels turning. When I stopped by my supplier, yesterday afternoon, to pick up some additional stuff for my Midgets, we discussed at length the various attributes of the urethane enamel vs. the base coat-clear coat enamels and lacquer. To sum it up, it looks like I may be a single stage, urethane enamel convert (Frank's...and other's....advice to me, in the first place). While I could be VERY comfortable with a base coat-clear coat acrylic lacquer on this Glacier White car, getting a good match for my MkI's Dove Gray/Smoke Gray via mail-order from the Left Coast was making me more than a bit nervous (not to mention the thought of a repair, in the future). So, since white is pretty forgiving, that would be the best car to try my first urethane enamel job on. By the time I get to the MkI, I should be fairly comfortable with it. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:pilotrob at webtv.net] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:28 PM To: Bud Osbourne; 'Frank Clarici' Cc: 'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] primers....thinking out loud IMHO.... acrylic enamel with urethane hardner..... can be buffed to a very high gloss and unlike clearcoats, very easy to "touch up". Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jan 3 09:27:53 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:27:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one Message-ID: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> Guys, So now I have a new welder for my shop. It is a Hobart 140 with the Mig kit and a tank of argon/co2. I have it all put together according to the manual and I am ready to weld something. I have a couple of projects in mind but I want to get my feet wet with it on scrap first. Question one: what do you use as a surface on your work bench under the pieces of steel to keep from burning it up your bench? I have a few 12 x 12 ceramic floor tiles that might work?? I have read that you should "push" the tip rather than "drag" the tip, sounds like it will get really hot that way, yes I have the gloves and auto dimming hood. I had intended to take a course at our voc. school but they don't offer the course this semester. Got 911 programmed in all of the phones! Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 09:30:02 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:30:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801030830t4934c413nb5671cf683e9da5e@mail.gmail.com> Don't get your feet wet and try to weld. That sounds pretty dangerous. On 1/3/08, Mark wrote: > > Guys, > > So now I have a new welder for my shop. It is a Hobart 140 with the Mig > kit > and a tank of argon/co2. I have it all put together according to the > manual > and I am ready to weld something. I have a couple of projects in mind but > I > want to get my feet wet with it on scrap first. Question one: what do > you > use as a surface on your work bench under the pieces of steel to keep from > burning it up your bench? I have a few 12 x 12 ceramic floor tiles that > might work?? I have read that you should "push" the tip rather than > "drag" > the tip, sounds like it will get really hot that way, yes I have the > gloves > and auto dimming hood. I had intended to take a course at our voc. school > but they don't offer the course this semester. > > Got 911 programmed in all of the phones! > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jan 3 09:35:37 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:35:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I only need to use that machine a few times a year. And when I do, I want to turn the key and hear music. 12 of those little critters seem to push a lot harder than 6. And my 1-wire alternator upgrade keeps them well fed. And, so why are you dissin' the Les Paul? -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:50 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jan 3 09:42:54 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:42:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR 15 In-Reply-To: <010220082049.11318.477BF8DF0008316D00002C362207001641020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> References: <010220082049.11318.477BF8DF0008316D00002C362207001641020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: That may be because you painted on the outside and rockers rust from the inside. -----Original Message----- From: kramer.allen at comcast.net [mailto:kramer.allen at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:50 PM To: Frank Clarici; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] POR 15 This past summer I spent time fixing rust spots on my daughters car. The spots were only starting under the paint on the rockers. Followed all the instructions using POR15. Well she came home from college for Christmas and it looks like I will be replacing metal this coming summer. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 09:48:00 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:48:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: because it isn't a Gretsch.... On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > I only need to use that machine a few times a year. And when I do, I > want to turn the key and hear music. 12 of those little critters seem > to push a lot harder than 6. And my 1-wire alternator upgrade keeps > them well fed. > > And, so why are you dissin' the Les Paul? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:50 PM > To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? > > How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jan 3 09:51:40 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:51:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have always been fond of the Gretsch Country Gentleman too. ________________________________ From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:48 AM To: Deikis, John G Cc: Billy Zoom; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? because it isn't a Gretsch.... On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: I only need to use that machine a few times a year. And when I do, I want to turn the key and hear music. 12 of those little critters seem to push a lot harder than 6. And my 1-wire alternator upgrade keeps them well fed. And, so why are you dissin' the Les Paul? -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:50 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 10:19:12 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:19:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My friend Carter Albrect played a beautiful red Gretsch, hollow body. I have some nice photos of it on my myspace page. On Jan 3, 2008 10:51 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > > > I have always been fond of the Gretsch Country Gentleman too. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:48 AM > *To:* Deikis, John G > *Cc:* Billy Zoom; spridgets at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? > > > > because it isn't a Gretsch.... > > On Jan 3, 2008 10:35 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > > I only need to use that machine a few times a year. And when I do, I > want to turn the key and hear music. 12 of those little critters seem > to push a lot harder than 6. And my 1-wire alternator upgrade keeps > them well fed. > > And, so why are you dissin' the Les Paul? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:50 PM > To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? > > How come you have 12 volts in a '53 Ford? 6 volts sounds cooler. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 10:23:47 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 11:23:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> For small items, clamp them in a vise and clamp the negative lead to the vise. For medium items, clamp them in a vise and clamp the negative lead to the work. For large items, place them on the bench or on the ground and clamp the negative lead to the work. Be mindful of the area around where you are welding. Pulling or pushing are different techniques used in different situations. Lincoln has good info on their website, directions and whatnot. I practice on scrap before every important weld. Welding is a thing that you must do often to stay good at. If you are planning to weld a fender, for example, get an old fender and practice. Get your feed and current settings right and make a few welds. Then, when it is time to do the real fender, everything will go nicely. Cheers, Derf From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 3 10:31:11 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:31:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> dissin' the Les Paul? Les Pauls and Strats are both OK....some of them anyway. I just find it difficult to think inside a box that small. BZ From trevorwj at insightbb.com Thu Jan 3 11:24:40 2008 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (trevorwj at insightbb.com) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:24:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: Here is a good website for beginners with plenty of video footage: http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ Trevor ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Date: Thursday, January 3, 2008 11:28 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one To: spridgets list > Guys, > > So now I have a new welder for my shop. It is a Hobart 140 > with the Mig kit > and a tank of argon/co2. I have it all put together > according to the manual > and I am ready to weld something. I have a couple of > projects in mind but I > want to get my feet wet with it on scrap first. Question > one: what do you > use as a surface on your work bench under the pieces of steel to > keep from > burning it up your bench? I have a few 12 x 12 ceramic > floor tiles that > might work?? I have read that you should "push" the tip > rather than "drag" > the tip, sounds like it will get really hot that way, yes I have > the gloves > and auto dimming hood. I had intended to take a course at > our voc. school > but they don't offer the course t From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jan 3 11:54:34 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:54:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Be very careful about flammable items within about 6 feet of your welding. Hot sparks are easily capable of igniting materials nearby. Like say... the rag tucked between the tranny tunnel and passenger seat in the Bugeye four feet behind me while I welded on the workbench with my back to the car. Close call, I hide the damage by placing my hat over the area when I park. Or the box of Christmas lights and leftover bits of dissected mini-helicopters down below the workbench..... "Gosh honey, three bad strings of lights this year, go figure". Tell her about that one and I'll hunt you down. Anyway, have the fire extinguisher charged and handy. THOROUGHLY check the area before and after welding for ignitable or already ignited materials before you go back in the house. That smoldering rag that caught a spark a minute ago will ruin your day. Very sincerely Glen Byrns From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 11:59:57 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:59:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way of getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through it like a hot knife through... um human skin. On 1/3/08, Glen Byrns wrote: > > Be very careful about flammable items within about 6 feet of your welding. > Hot sparks are easily capable of igniting materials nearby. Like say... > the > rag tucked between the tranny tunnel and passenger seat in the Bugeye four > feet behind me while I welded on the workbench with my back to the car. > Close call, I hide the damage by placing my hat over the area when I park. > Or the box of Christmas lights and leftover bits of dissected > mini-helicopters down below the workbench..... "Gosh honey, three bad > strings of lights this year, go figure". Tell her about that one and I'll > hunt you down. > > Anyway, have the fire extinguisher charged and handy. THOROUGHLY check > the > area before and after welding for ignitable or already ignited materials > before you go back in the house. That smoldering rag that caught a spark > a > minute ago will ruin your day. > > Very sincerely > Glen Byrns > > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 3 12:12:35 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 11:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It takes lots of practice. I think probably the hardest part is learning to look at the puddle rather than the spark. Don't be afraid to experiment with the settings. The recommended settings are very general, and sometimes cranking the heat and moving faster works better, and vice versa. Get a lot of scrap to practice on, and use the rusty bits you cut out. It's a very different metal from the new panels. BZ From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jan 3 12:46:18 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:46:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] timing cover part 2 Message-ID: So be sure to get the Mini crank pulley to go with it! Daniel1312 in Nuneaton In a message dated 03/01/2008 07:41:32 GMT Standard Time, BCAH at aol.com writes: Another thing to consider when dealing with the timing cover is that on some "A" series engines (Mini?) the timing index is on the top for easier viewing,-----Bob C in KS From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 3 13:54:51 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:54:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] long drive in post snowfall roads Message-ID: I went for a 600 mile drive yesterday, the morning after a 5 inch snowfall. First vehicle seen in the ditch was a Ford ute. Went in frontwards. The second was a GMC ute. It went in the normal way ... backwards. The third was somewhat odd. An older GM front wheel drive car seemed to have hit the snowbank at a ninety degree angle. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jan 3 14:00:35 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:00:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT><5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com><000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> To the below I would add, NO sandals either. The hot spark always lands under the piece that goes across the top of your foot. > Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way > of > getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I > wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through > it like a hot knife through... um human skin. > Summary: NO flammables within 10 foot radius NO synthetic clothing (think "molten plastic on my skin") NO open toe shoes or sandals YES Long sleeved shirt with collar buttoned. YES Levis with pant leg covering shoe collar. YES ballcap on head under helmet saves scalp scars and very unpleasant odors I've violated every one of these safety rules and have at least one scar to go with every violation. Please be smarter than me. name witheld out of sheer embarrasment at the above From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 14:04:13 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:04:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar Message-ID: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, >From the "better late than never" category comes our proud announcement that the special Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar for the Lake of the Ozarks celebration is now ready! It is a very nice 12 month calendar assembled by Spridgeteers Larry Daniels and David Lieb and contains many pictures of people and cars sent in by folks around the world. Many of them will be attending the celebration in June. We apologise for it not being available until 3 days into 2008 (we had some difficulties getting it all together) but the quality is such that the wait was well worth it. The calendar is 8.5" x 11", opens out to 11" x 17", contains 13 pages of wonder full color collages of Spridgets in various states of beauty, and is priced at $20 + S & H. A small portion goes to help finance the celebration. You will find yours at: < http://www.cafepress.com/spridget/> Browse some of the official apparel while you are there. I have posted this message to Spridgets (autox.team.net), and the Yahoo groups of "MidgetSprite" and "Bugeye". Please feel free to re-post this notice on any other lists you may know of and pass it out to fellow Spridgeteers at events and club meetings! Also, another reminder to get your registration in for the June event! There are still some rooms left at the event hotel but the area is an extremely popular resort in June so when the headquarters hotel is full you will be stuck looking for very hard to find rooms elsewhere - maybe not even in Osage Beach! Call the event hotel at *1-800-348-4731* and be sure to tell them you are with "50 Years of Spridgets" to get the special room rate. The online registration (or download .pdf for mail in) is at: < http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org/registration.html> See you all in Osage Beach!! - Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 3 14:03:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <477D4DB0.6020805@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > That smoldering rag that caught a spark a > minute ago will ruin your day. And the shirt you are wearing. And you would be amazed at how fast a steel wool ball ignites. Flammable stuff needs to be 10 feet from where you are welding. And when a hot spark goes down your sock, just deal with it, do not try to pick it out or you will have burnt fingers too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 3 14:09:08 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:09:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT><5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com><000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > I've violated every one of these safety rules and have at least one scar to > go with every violation. > Please be smarter than me. Gee Glen, Did you learn from me or did I learn from you? Welding scars, can't live with them, can't weld without them. In my trade I get saw dust in my cigarette lighter in my top pocket all the time, I light a smoke, put the lighter back in my pocket and 2 minutes later, I need a new shirt because the sawdust stayed lit. I also found out that you can set a sweatshirt on fire just by grinding metal too close to the shirt, and it take a bit before you know you're on fire if you are concentrating on your work. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jan 3 14:20:47 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:20:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <68vr7k$282v9k@email.mtu.edu> At 04:00 PM 1/3/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: >To the below I would add, NO sandals either. The hot spark always lands >under the piece that goes across the top of your foot. And any sparks and molten metal that finds their way into your glove (through that tiny hole) always end up between your finger and your ring - I have the scars to prove it!! You can't shake the sparks out even if you do the "welders" dance. 'Cause welders try, but they just can't dance! LOL Make sure you have the correct welding wire for the job you want to do. Should be solid now that you bought and installed the gas kit (Is the liner and tip the correct size for your wire and is your wire the correct metallurgy for your job?) Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 14:23:59 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:23:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm I'm beginning to wonder about staying in the same hotel with you two at Lake of the Ozarks... I think I'll have them check all the fire and smoke alarms.... ;-) My favorite trick is getting a shirt sleeve or shirt-tail caught in whatever revolving tool I'm using at the time. The 7.5" wire brush on the bench grinder is the most fun of all.... Cheers!! Jim On 1/3/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Glen Byrns wrote: > > > I've violated every one of these safety rules and have at least one scar > to > > go with every violation. > > Please be smarter than me. > > Gee Glen, Did you learn from me or did I learn from you? > Welding scars, can't live with them, can't weld without them. > In my trade I get saw dust in my cigarette lighter in my top pocket all > the time, I light a smoke, put the lighter back in my pocket and 2 > minutes later, I need a new shirt because the sawdust stayed lit. > I also found out that you can set a sweatshirt on fire just by grinding > metal too close to the shirt, and it take a bit before you know you're > on fire if you are concentrating on your work. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jan 3 14:27:47 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:27:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <68vr7k$2830j7@email.mtu.edu> So carpenters try to dance too???? >Gee Glen, Did you learn from me or did I learn from you? >Welding scars, can't live with them, can't weld without them. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Jan 3 14:55:40 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:55:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, caution In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT><5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com><000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com><000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004601c84e53$63be09f0$b43b670a@edgewireless.com> On a bit of a more serious note. Think Sunburns and skin cancer. Any type of Arc welding exposes you to all sorts of UV. Wear a heavy long sleeve shirt or better yet a welding vest. Cover more then just your eyes. Lots of old welders got skin cancers on their throats, arms and chests. Once upon a time, I spent a full day welding some big stuff wearing a light long sleeved shirt. That night I had a neat sunburn all over my torso, You could see the outline of the shirt cuffs on my wrists and the buttons running down my chest, even where I had kept a few pens in the pocket. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Thu Jan 3 15:00:10 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:00:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002d01c84e54$031dc080$84ab7547@DBKF4T81> In a couple articles I recently read, he ear / nose / throat folks state that welding slag is about one of the worst things you can put against an eardrum. Dunno how often slag is gonna all the way down an ear canal but I did see a couple of pics of what it looked like when it did happen ... not pretty and very hard to heal. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Flash." > Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way > of > getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I > wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through > it like a hot knife through... um human skin. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 15:09:10 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:09:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801031409h700e2f61l432f0c65495505ad@mail.gmail.com> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." -Douglas Adams Author On 1/3/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Glen Byrns wrote: > > > I've violated every one of these safety rules and have at least one scar > to > > go with every violation. > > Please be smarter than me. > > Gee Glen, Did you learn from me or did I learn from you? > Welding scars, can't live with them, can't weld without them. > In my trade I get saw dust in my cigarette lighter in my top pocket all > the time, I light a smoke, put the lighter back in my pocket and 2 > minutes later, I need a new shirt because the sawdust stayed lit. > I also found out that you can set a sweatshirt on fire just by grinding > metal too close to the shirt, and it take a bit before you know you're > on fire if you are concentrating on your work. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From healeymonster at fastwave.biz Thu Jan 3 16:03:45 2008 From: healeymonster at fastwave.biz (Ed Townley) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:03:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye windshield installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a701c84e5c$e780b9f0$6401a8c0@main> Hi, Vern--are you talking about the windscreen to frame, or the frame to body seal? The frame to body is straightforward--just use silicone spray or dishwashing liquid in a spray bottle and apply liberally while sliding in from one end. Obviously, this requires frame on the bench--off the car.--easiest reinstallation--two people--rope between seal and body and work the lip of the seal forward while pulling screen down to mount. I found the glass to screen seal a little more challenging-- much easier with two people, again, off the car, and plenty of slick stuff as mentioned above--a "fiddly" job, but again, pretty straightforward, as long as you remember--Glass don't bend very well.!!! Hope this helps. Ed Townley Southern NM, USA 59 AN5 "Horny Toad" 64 BJ8 "Healeymonster" 55 Austin FX3 Taxi "Sir Nigel" 60 AN5 "Lumpy" RHD project for past 4 years, but now ON THE ROAD as of Dec.16, 2007!!!!! Message: 6 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:08:52 -0700 From: "vern at srvinet.com" Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye windshield installation To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <477CFA84.40001 at srvinet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed It seems not too long ago there was a discussion about replacing the gasket on a bugeye and how difficult it is. The gasket on mine is really weatherd and I am considering replacing it. It this a really daunting deal? Would appreciate any opinions from those of you who have actually done it. Vern -- See my 59 bugeye 78 MGB 79 midget RB at: http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/ From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 3 16:34:44 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:34:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080103233542.77A74187A50@autox.team.net> You wear socks with your shorts? Splanes a lot! Crash Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way of getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through it like a hot knife through... um human skin. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 16:41:03 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:41:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one In-Reply-To: <477d711d.2453480a.2071.ffff8b33SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <477d711d.2453480a.2071.ffff8b33SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801031541n72ba84ebl7d60cb7e7a25e09d@mail.gmail.com> It's wisconsin. I generally wear a knit hat with my shorts. On Jan 3, 2008 5:34 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > You wear socks with your shorts? Splanes a lot! > Crash > > Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way > of > getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I > wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through > it like a hot knife through... um human skin. > > > > > > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jan 3 16:41:38 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:41:38 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT><5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com><000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4DB0.6020805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003101c84e62$2f6fb270$378e9751@tairswork> An old washing up liquid bottle filled with water close by is a handy thing to save 'wasting' a full fire extinguisher. So is an old 'squirty spray' type. One, or perhaps 2 or 3 squirts is usually enough to end most fires if you catch them early. Never forget the benefit of having someone else close by as a 'fire watcher'. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Glen Byrns" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder, Ablolutely Green but I got one > Glen Byrns wrote: >> That smoldering rag that caught a spark a >> minute ago will ruin your day. > > And the shirt you are wearing. > And you would be amazed at how fast a steel wool ball ignites. > Flammable stuff needs to be 10 feet from where you are welding. > And when a hot spark goes down your sock, just deal with it, do not try > to pick it out or you will have burnt fingers too. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 3 17:07:58 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:07:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, caution In-Reply-To: <004601c84e53$63be09f0$b43b670a@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: > old welders got skin cancers on their throats, arms and chests. Old welders weren't using pocket MIGS. You guys need to loosen up, or switch to Volvo wagons. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 17:17:57 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:17:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, caution In-Reply-To: References: <004601c84e53$63be09f0$b43b670a@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: <441250190801031617i1a500182kbc8b1f17eb6a9266@mail.gmail.com> Sort of like this one http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9cd6869c-6501-4b46-b004-9884012931f3.htm On Jan 3, 2008 4:07 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Old welders weren't using pocket MIGS. You guys need to loosen up, or > switch > to Volvo wagons. From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 3 17:55:58 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:55:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation engines was Re: New Engine oil change Message-ID: Sure.... oil sampling is part of what allowed less than four engined airplanes to begin flying the big ponds. They could actually tell by charting metals quantity over engine hrs, when a motor would fail or when a specific part (fuel controller) needed replacement... all by metal type/per cent quantity. Today, on the most modern equipment, motors and systems "report" to a ground maint monitor as they run/fly. Many times a crew will land at a field where no aircraft swap had been scheduled, only to find out from the maint. people coming aboard they've been assigned to another aircraft 'cause theirs either has, or is about to have a problem. It's gotten truly better and better in these respects, no doubt about it. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 3 18:07:28 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:07:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder, caution In-Reply-To: <441250190801031617i1a500182kbc8b1f17eb6a9266@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: John Doe9s Volvo wagon smokes almost a much as that one, but he doesn9t go as fast. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 3 18:25:51 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:25:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT><5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com><000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <006701c84e70$c07b0310$41710930$@com> I worked for a year at a factory as a sheet metal worker, fabricator and welder. I was earning enough dough to go to college. The place I worked made chemical dryers. Mostly worked in stainless, but not always. The welding on certain pieces was so critical that if you f'd up a bead even slightly, it was junk. I can recall working in a bit of a precarious position doing some vertical and overhead stick welding, and having a piece of hot slag roll around in my helmet, and end up inside my nostril. I used to have a permanent sunburn in the shape of a V on my chest where my shirt was unbuttoned... and still have some burn scars there. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:01 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution To the below I would add, NO sandals either. The hot spark always lands under the piece that goes across the top of your foot. > Oh, don't weld things in shorts either. The metal has a really neat way > of > getting down your socks and burning your ankles. I also have a fleece I > wear that is obviously not a natural fiber because the stuff burns through > it like a hot knife through... um human skin. > Summary: NO flammables within 10 foot radius NO synthetic clothing (think "molten plastic on my skin") NO open toe shoes or sandals YES Long sleeved shirt with collar buttoned. YES Levis with pant leg covering shoe collar. YES ballcap on head under helmet saves scalp scars and very unpleasant odors I've violated every one of these safety rules and have at least one scar to go with every violation. Please be smarter than me. name witheld out of sheer embarrasment at the above From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 3 18:30:03 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:30:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006801c84e71$5624ea70$026ebf50$@com> I ended up saving the life of a guy at the factory I mentioned in an earlier post when he was working with this ginormous cable driven hand grinder, and got his shirt wrapped up in it at high speed. It wrapped him up so tight around his chest and stomach he was unable to take a breath. I was fortunate to get him cut out of his shirt in time. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:24 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution Hmmm I'm beginning to wonder about staying in the same hotel with you two at Lake of the Ozarks... I think I'll have them check all the fire and smoke alarms.... ;-) My favorite trick is getting a shirt sleeve or shirt-tail caught in whatever revolving tool I'm using at the time. The 7.5" wire brush on the bench grinder is the most fun of all.... Cheers!! Jim From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 18:31:16 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:31:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <006801c84e71$5624ea70$026ebf50$@com> References: <003301c84e25$97bcd2f0$8500a8c0@CT> <5f00d9910801030923h3da8d1fbi22e97c3cd28d29d8@mail.gmail.com> <000901c84e3a$15718510$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0801031059n28abd138hfc585166607edd9b@mail.gmail.com> <000c01c84e4b$af9a7c30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <477D4EF4.1090008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0801031323j6eea8caaw29e8fad334506788@mail.gmail.com> <006801c84e71$5624ea70$026ebf50$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801031731i46e9208djd77fcadf815e1455@mail.gmail.com> Positional Asphyxiation. Happens more than people know. And the first thing I thought of when guy was talking about getting his shirt caught in a grinder (wtf?!) tuck your s in! On Jan 3, 2008 7:30 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > I ended up saving the life of a guy at the factory I mentioned in an > earlier > post when he was working with this ginormous cable driven hand grinder, > and > got his shirt wrapped up in it at high speed. It wrapped him up so tight > around his chest and stomach he was unable to take a breath. I was > fortunate > to get him cut out of his shirt in time. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Jim Johnson > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:24 PM > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution > > Hmmm I'm beginning to wonder about staying in the same hotel with you two > at Lake of the Ozarks... I think I'll have them check all the fire and > smoke alarms.... ;-) > > My favorite trick is getting a shirt sleeve or shirt-tail caught in > whatever > revolving tool I'm using at the time. The 7.5" wire brush on the bench > grinder is the most fun of all.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > _______________________________________________ > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 18:36:43 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:36:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <395678.8887.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Brad Fornal wrote: > My friend Carter Albrect played a beautiful red > Gretsch, hollow body. He should get one of the new Gretsch's coming soon. It might speed along this guy's Sprite restoration: http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/billy-zoom-x/oct-07/32197 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 18:41:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 17:41:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0801031731i46e9208djd77fcadf815e1455@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <773500.18271.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." wrote: > guy was talking about > getting his shirt caught in a > grinder (wtf?!) > tuck your s in! And take off your work gloves before hitting the wire brush wheel. And if you forget to attach the driveshaft to the transmission while bedding in a cam and oil gushes out the rear trans seal, wait until the 2 inch exhaust pipe cools off before reaching under blindly to attach it. And....I got a million of them. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Jan 3 18:56:57 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:56:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution References: <773500.18271.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <082f01c84e75$16b749b0$6501a8c0@refisk> A buddy of mine used to run a car restoration business. Some of his resto jobs are in the Henry Ford Museum. He did good work. One day he was buffing a headlight trim ring on a huge buffing wheel driven by a 5 HP electric motor. The buffer suddenly grabbed the trim ring and his hand and wrapped his whole arm around the wheel. When he got the wheel stopped and his arm out the bones in his wrist and arm had been torn apart and his arm was literally stretched to the point where his fingers were dragging on the ground. It took a year of recovery. The docs did a good job and his arm was repaired to the point where it works pretty well, but he still has a bunch of plates and screws holding everything together. Be careful out there. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Flash." ; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution > --- "Flash." wrote: >> guy was talking about >> getting his shirt caught in a >> grinder (wtf?!) >> tuck your s in! > > And take off your work gloves before hitting the wire > brush wheel. And if you forget to attach the > driveshaft to the transmission while bedding in a cam > and oil gushes out the rear trans seal, wait until the > 2 inch exhaust pipe cools off before reaching under > blindly to attach it. And....I got a million of them. > > Ron From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 3 19:11:55 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:11:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <082f01c84e75$16b749b0$6501a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <999303.95824.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And don't tie your shop apron in the front when working with rotating machinery. BTDT Bob ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 3 19:22:48 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:22:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] External coil ballast? References: <395678.8887.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03d201c84e78$b3c62b10$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> er Ron, me thinks it would DRASTICALLY SLOWER after that expense!!!!!!! LOL From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jan 3 19:29:45 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:29:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <999303.95824.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080104022937.FPHZ2677.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Oh I got one- 8th grade shop class. Using a vice grip to hold something while using a large buffing wheel, holding it safely with the proper head protection, no gloves, etc. with a good grip... And forgetting about static electricity. Closest metal was a zipper... Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Van Kirk Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:12 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution And don't tie your shop apron in the front when working with rotating machinery. BTDT Bob ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 3 20:05:01 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:05:01 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] was Aviation engines was Re: New Engine oil change Message-ID: What type of airplane are you driving, Pat? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 3 20:25:31 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 19:25:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> Guys and Gals, Take a look at the calendar pagaes, you might find your car...I did! Herb Keep the sticky side down! From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jan 3 22:00:11 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 23:00:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401c84e8e$af8fab50$6401a8c0@personal> I found Miss Agatha as well. Too cool. So wife ordered 5 of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" ; "bugeye" Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar > Guys and Gals, > > Take a look at the calendar pagaes, you might find your car...I did! > > Herb > Keep the sticky side down! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 > 11:29 AM From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jan 3 22:02:41 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 21:02:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye windshield installation In-Reply-To: <00a701c84e5c$e780b9f0$6401a8c0@main> References: <00a701c84e5c$e780b9f0$6401a8c0@main> Message-ID: <15c8a3a9ea3674a18fca.20080103210241.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> One more thing Ed. If you notice the underside of the windshield post, you will see a void towards the inside of the car. This is where you tuck the ends of the windshield to body seal while you pull it tight as you are mounting the windshield to the body. This will keep the rubber seal tight against the scuttle to seal properly. There was an article in Austin Healy Club USA magazine back in the late 90s that covers glass replacement for a Bugeye. Maybe someone has an index of technical articles to find the issue it is in. I probably have it somewhere, but I don't have time to find it right now. Email me if anyone is interested and I will look for it in a day or two. Mike MacLean Ed Townley > Hi, Vern--are you talking about the windscreen to frame, or the frame to > body seal? The frame to body is straightforward--just use silicone spray > or > dishwashing liquid in a spray bottle and apply liberally while sliding in > from one end. Obviously, this requires frame on the bench--off the > car.--easiest reinstallation--two people--rope between seal and body and > work the lip of the seal forward while pulling screen down to mount. > I found the glass to screen seal a little more challenging-- much easier > with two people, again, off the car, and plenty of slick stuff as > mentioned > above--a "fiddly" job, but again, pretty straightforward, as long as you > remember--Glass don't bend very well.!!! > Hope this helps. > > Ed Townley > Southern NM, USA From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jan 4 05:54:29 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 06:54:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] nice to see this Message-ID: <00e301c84ed0$f3c50a80$db4f1f80$@com> http://tinyurl.com/2qhtts Nice to see decent square bodies fetching a decent price. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From caws52803 at aol.com Fri Jan 4 06:15:21 2008 From: caws52803 at aol.com (caws52803 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:15:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CA1CEAFE8F4096-164C-2B0@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> I couldn't believe my RHD Red (not Cherry) Bugeye in position #5 in this month's pictures. Order already in! Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC -----Original Message----- From: WFO Herb To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets ; Yahoo Spridget list ; bugeye Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:25 pm Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar Guys and Gals, Take a look at the calendar pagaes, you might find your car...I did! Herb Keep the sticky side down! You are subscribed as caws52803 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From grday at btinternet.com Fri Jan 4 06:44:26 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:44:26 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] nice to see this References: <00e301c84ed0$f3c50a80$db4f1f80$@com> Message-ID: <000801c84ed7$ec492190$0daa9656@tairswork> Wasn't the gold coloured badge / trim fitted to this model? What seems to be a nice tidy motor - providing it is kept in a dry area. The tin worm is showing in the engine bay... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: [Spridgets] nice to see this > http://tinyurl.com/2qhtts > > > > Nice to see decent square bodies fetching a decent price. > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 4 06:46:13 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:46:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com><2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> <8CA1CEAFE8F4096-164C-2B0@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <006a01c84ed8$2c6aac30$0401a8c0@midget> >I couldn't believe my RHD Red (not Cherry) Bugeye in position #5 in > this month's pictures. Order already in! It was all up to you. Everybody who sent me a picture or a link to a picture got at least one shot in the calendar. Only one person got a picture in there without sending it to me. NONE of the pictures in there came from trolling the net. There was one other person who was asked for more pictures, but that was after he had already sent some in. I did not send out any personal solicitations for pictures, just the general plea on a number of lists and forums. I wish I could have fit in all the other pictures that I got, but I did the best I could. Remind me to sit no my hands in future ;-) David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 4 07:00:05 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:00:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] nice to see this In-Reply-To: <000801c84ed7$ec492190$0daa9656@tairswork> Message-ID: I thought that the reverse lens were a bit clouded, the gearbox hump rug a bit worn and the driver's door check strap was missing ... But, seriously, it looks very nice. I wish my Sprite body/paint/chrome looked that good. >From: "Guy R Day" > >Wasn't the gold coloured badge / trim fitted to this model? > >What seems to be a nice tidy motor - providing it is kept in a dry area. >The tin worm is showing in the engine bay... > >Guy R Day > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" >To: "'Spridgets'" >Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 12:54 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] nice to see this > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2qhtts > > > > > > > > Nice to see decent square bodies fetching a decent price. > > > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jan 4 09:24:55 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:24:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <999303.95824.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <999303.95824.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5EDF5E0B-55DF-470F-A7EF-3DE845182966@comcast.net> .. and if you smell something like burning wood... check your socks, they smell like that when welding catches them on fire. Yeah, I know for certain.. Lester On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > And don't tie your shop apron in the front when > working with rotating machinery. BTDT > Bob From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jan 4 09:44:27 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:44:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] long drive in post snowfall roads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That usually happens on the inside of a turn where the rear end breaks loose.. and it works on rally roads just as well.. ;-) Lester On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I went for a 600 mile drive yesterday, the morning after a 5 inch > snowfall. > First vehicle seen in the ditch was a Ford ute. Went in > frontwards. The > second was a GMC ute. It went in the normal way ... backwards. The > third > was somewhat odd. An older GM front wheel drive car seemed to have > hit the > snowbank at a ninety degree angle. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 4 10:00:51 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:00:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] long drive in post snowfall roads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Ford ute was on a straight stretch. I figure s/he pulled out to pass and kept on pulling. :) The GMC was just after an on-ramp. The fwd car was in a straight stretch and s/he was straight into the bank and quite well into it as if s/he had a good enough run at it. >From: Lester > >That usually happens on the inside of a turn where the rear end breaks >loose.. and it works on rally roads just as well.. ;-) > >Lester > >On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > > > I went for a 600 mile drive yesterday, the morning after a 5 inch > > snowfall. > > First vehicle seen in the ditch was a Ford ute. Went in > > frontwards. The > > second was a GMC ute. It went in the normal way ... backwards. The > > third > > was somewhat odd. An older GM front wheel drive car seemed to have > > hit the > > snowbank at a ninety degree angle. From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jan 4 12:36:06 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:36:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] converting to auto-darkening hood Message-ID: <006b01c84f09$0c8b12c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> One of my Triumph Club buddies treated himself to a new, adjustable, auto-darkening welding hood (helmets sit on TOP of our heads), and he insisted that I try it out. It's "infinitely" adjustable between #7 and #14 shade. Since the general unavailability of shade# that I prefer had, previously, been my main reason for never getting one for myself, this unit was a pleasant surprise. TIP has them on sale, until 1/31, at $179 (regularly $199). After 40 years of welding without one (auto-darkening screen, that is) I finally broke down and ordered one, as I've got a whole boat-load of welding to do this winter. I'm also going to make up a cover/cloth to Velcro to the hood, which will keep light (from my overhead shop lights) from coming into the welding hood from behind. I've just been using a leather "bib" for that purpose, and it makes a world of difference. Bud Osbourne From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jan 4 15:15:01 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:15:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Welder,caution In-Reply-To: <5EDF5E0B-55DF-470F-A7EF-3DE845182966@comcast.net> References: <999303.95824.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <5EDF5E0B-55DF-470F-A7EF-3DE845182966@comcast.net> Message-ID: If you clamp your work into a vice at the end of the bench where you keep you waste can, you will discover that old oil filter inserts will burn with a nice yellow flame and quite a bit of black, sooty smoke that you don't notice...because your head is inside that darth vader thing. -----Original Message----- From: Lester [mailto:oldsaabguy at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:25 AM To: Bob Van Kirk Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Welder,caution .. and if you smell something like burning wood... check your socks, they smell like that when welding catches them on fire. Yeah, I know for certain.. Lester On Jan 3, 2008, at 8:11 PM, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > And don't tie your shop apron in the front when > working with rotating machinery. BTDT > Bob From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 4 17:10:28 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:10:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windscreen Install PDF Message-ID: <4a60ac828ab9f0ad200a.20080104161028.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> If anyone is interested I have made a PDF of the Bugeye windscreen install article in PDF form. Just email me and I will send it individually out to you. I used this method when I was restoring my Bugeye. I replaced the glass with a Triplex made windscreen, so it fit quite well. I make no claims about the repro glass you get from the usual suspects. Also, the windshield frame to glass rubber is available infrequently. Seems the Brit manufacturers wait until there is enough clamor for rubber then make a batch. I'm just saying I don't know the present supply. Good luck and have fun. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 18:51:41 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:51:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dakar Rallly Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801041751x48b6a0cn8c7ad33107b4b84e@mail.gmail.com> http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Dakar-Rally-is-alQaeda-victim.3643433.jp From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 20:05:25 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:05:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar In-Reply-To: <006a01c84ed8$2c6aac30$0401a8c0@midget> References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> <8CA1CEAFE8F4096-164C-2B0@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> <006a01c84ed8$2c6aac30$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801041905n2f3a1b2ehff8dae6e70b9d4f6@mail.gmail.com> David, I would like to thank you publicly....THANK YOU A lot of effort, not to mention time, goes into a project even so (basic) appearing as a calender. Not even mentioning other aspects of the 50th you're involved in. I'm proud my...well, now my Son's...car graces the pages. Gratuitously, Herb On Jan 4, 2008 5:46 AM, David Lieb wrote: > >I couldn't believe my RHD Red (not Cherry) Bugeye in position #5 in > > this month's pictures. Order already in! > > It was all up to you. Everybody who sent me a picture or a link to a > picture got at least one shot in the calendar. Only one person got a > picture in there without sending it to me. NONE of the pictures in > there came from trolling the net. There was one other person who > was asked for more pictures, but that was after he had already > sent some in. I did not send out any personal solicitations for > pictures, just the general plea on a number of lists and forums. > I wish I could have fit in all the other pictures that I got, but I did > the best I could. Remind me to sit no my hands in future ;-) > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nory1 at adelphia.net Fri Jan 4 20:58:32 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:58:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801041905n2f3a1b2ehff8dae6e70b9d4f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801031304h1d56dc44i4eb7805d3b13686b@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801031925h1634c39aq20830df7d4c94be@mail.gmail.com> <8CA1CEAFE8F4096-164C-2B0@FWM-D20.sysops.aol.com> <006a01c84ed8$2c6aac30$0401a8c0@midget> <2ad6c6b10801041905n2f3a1b2ehff8dae6e70b9d4f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5922085D-5CD9-43E8-9F89-E9D009266FC7@adelphia.net> >> Cool! Found my pics! Calendar's on order! Thanks for making >> this a reality!! From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 21:09:11 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:09:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Various Types of Threads Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801042009t8e03c02t9a59efa974b2d80@mail.gmail.com> Check out the "Technical" link on this page. Covers all different threads used. The little steering wheels are kinda' kool too.... http://www.tccwa.com/ Herb From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jan 5 11:10:04 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 12:10:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dakar Rallly In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801041751x48b6a0cn8c7ad33107b4b84e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801041751x48b6a0cn8c7ad33107b4b84e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <918A9495-AD40-4CF3-B14A-9AD62A64D0EB@comcast.net> Well .. shit. Lester On Jan 4, 2008, at 7:51 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Dakar-Rally-is-alQaeda-victim.3643433.jp From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 14:41:13 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:41:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Various Types of Threads In-Reply-To: <20080105050811.CZDI12952.mta13.adelphia.net@randall> References: <2ad6c6b10801042009t8e03c02t9a59efa974b2d80@mail.gmail.com> <20080105050811.CZDI12952.mta13.adelphia.net@randall> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801051341p585b130fu363a7b46432b8d91@mail.gmail.com> Valid points, Randall. Still, more information than I had before! Herb On Jan 4, 2008 9:08 PM, Randall wrote: > > > Covers all different threads used. > > Not all, by a long shot. No mention of British Associated, for example, > and I don't even see spark plug threads (14 x 1.25). > > Randall From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 14:44:01 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:44:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Various Types of Threads In-Reply-To: <20080105050811.CZDI12952.mta13.adelphia.net@randall> References: <2ad6c6b10801042009t8e03c02t9a59efa974b2d80@mail.gmail.com> <20080105050811.CZDI12952.mta13.adelphia.net@randall> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801051344w3dcddd46k5fd57eb314a7f975@mail.gmail.com> Randall, If you have that information, how's about posting it for us? Herb On Jan 4, 2008 9:08 PM, Randall wrote: > > > Covers all different threads used. > > Not all, by a long shot. No mention of British Associated, for example, > and I don't even see spark plug threads (14 x 1.25). > > Randall From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 14:49:19 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:49:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] S E N I L I T Y T E S T In-Reply-To: <504657.3397.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <504657.3397.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801051349t25020eb3x3ef18ffeeb5bd459@mail.gmail.com> S E N I L I T Y T E S T Are the patterns moving, or are they quite still? *The patterns are used to test the level of stress a person is subject to.* * * *The more slowly the pictures move, the better your ability to handle stress.** * *Alleged criminals that were tested generally saw them spinning round.* *However, senior citizens and kids see them standing still.** * *None of these images is animated - they are all quite still.* *How did you do with the test?* *If you did not see any movement in the patterns, look closely at the following photo.* Senior citizens: if you don't see any movement in this photo, call an ambulance. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image004.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image003.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image001.gif] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 14:56:52 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 13:56:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] You'll have to SMILE at these! Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801051356r52a28ac8ldf2d39d0efb32097@mail.gmail.com> ...there's a car! 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In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801051356r52a28ac8ldf2d39d0efb32097@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I see a hippopotamus, two women with large breasts, a roll of life savers, and an umbrella...and they're all moving. Did I pass the test? > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown.jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(1).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(2).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(3).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(4).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(5).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(6).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(7).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(8).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(9).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(10).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(11).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(12).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(13).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(14).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(15).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(16).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(17).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(18).jpg] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > unknown(19).jpg] > _ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jan 5 15:32:28 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:32:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Message-ID: What do you call a psychic midget who just escaped from jail? A small medium at large! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 15:36:58 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:36:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801051436k3d708603off5aa028def98ff7@mail.gmail.com> Bad Boy, Robert!! No treat!! Jim On 1/5/08, Robert Duquette wrote: > > What do you call a psychic midget who just escaped from jail? > > A small medium at large! From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 17:09:03 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:09:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] DCOE Type Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801051609vf2296f7h536983881f1dbbf9@mail.gmail.com> ebay 110210558137 40mm Dellorto DHLA Like Weber 40 DCOE @ $50.00 with 10 minutes left....HURRY! From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 17:24:37 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:24:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] S E N I L I T Y T E S T In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801051349t25020eb3x3ef18ffeeb5bd459@mail.gmail.com> References: <504657.3397.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10801051349t25020eb3x3ef18ffeeb5bd459@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801051624w3fdc436apb89fb539bc8fb789@mail.gmail.com> I think you failed your senility test if you can't remember that the list doesn't tolerate attachments or photos. From bilbostuufff at yahoo.com Sat Jan 5 17:29:11 2008 From: bilbostuufff at yahoo.com (John Colclasure) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:29:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Will a hub made for the steering wheel of an MGB fit a midget? --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jan 5 17:31:52 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:31:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I know on a 65 it will. On Jan 5, 2008 6:29 PM, John Colclasure wrote: > Will a hub made for the steering wheel of an MGB fit a midget? > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 5 17:55:38 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:55:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4780270A.8020809@comcast.net> John Colclasure wrote: > Will a hub made for the steering wheel of an MGB fit a midget? MGB hubs and 65-67 Spridget hubs are the same. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Sat Jan 5 18:27:45 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:27:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hubs... In-Reply-To: <4780270A.8020809@comcast.net> References: <411220.75791.qm@web56012.mail.re3.yahoo.com>, <4780270A.8020809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <477FBE11.28232.CAB714@dmg.bossig.com> That's what I love about this list.... I learn at *least* one new thing a week ;-)) >>John Colclasure wrote: >> Will a hub made for the steering wheel of an MGB fit a midget? > MGB hubs and 65-67 Spridget hubs are the same. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 6 10:08:54 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:08:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ten Thoughts For 2008 Message-ID: <013701c85086$d1af1050$6401a8c0@Larry> FW: Ten Thoughts For 2008Ten Thoughts to Ponder for 2008 Number 10 Life is sexually transmitted. Number 9 Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Number 8 Men have two emotions: Hungry and Horny. If you see him without an erection, make him a sandwich. Number 7 Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day, teach a person to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. Number 6 Some people are like a Slinky ....Not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. Number 5 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in hospitals dying of nothing. Number 4 All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to Criticism. Number 3 Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200.00 and a substantial tax cut saves you $30.00? Number 2 In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is Weird and people take Prozac to make it normal. And The Number 1 Thought For 2008: We know exactly where one cow with Mad-cow-disease is located among millions and millions of cows in America but we haven't got a clue as to where millions of illegal immigrants and terrorists are located. Maybe we should put the Department of Agriculture in charge of Immigration. "Life is like a jar of Jalapeno peppers. What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow". From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jan 6 10:15:43 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:15:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ten Thoughts For 2008 (NO LBC) In-Reply-To: <013701c85086$d1af1050$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <013701c85086$d1af1050$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <1995419531.20080106091543@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, and i thought it was BUILD a man a fire, warm him for a day. SET a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "3.142" Tom enumerated piously. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 6 10:25:26 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:25:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ten Thoughts For 2008 (NO LBC) References: <013701c85086$d1af1050$6401a8c0@Larry> <1995419531.20080106091543@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <003b01c85089$20b9ac80$0401a8c0@midget> > and i thought it was > > BUILD a man a fire, warm him for a day. > SET a man on fire, warm him for the rest of his life! No, you are both wrong... Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink himself stupid. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 6 10:40:11 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:40:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Dakar Ralleye Message-ID: Hey.... as long as the good guys "enable" the newist bully on the block by putting up with and tolerating his BS to any extent, the longer he will exist....and ruin the fun of the majority of the good guys, accordingly. That's just the way it is. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 1:10 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dakar Rallly Well .. shit. Lester On Jan 4, 2008, at 7:51 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Dakar-Rally-is-alQaeda-victim.3643433.jp You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jan 6 11:03:54 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:03:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] DCOE Type Message-ID: It will bolt up to the same manifold. It's similar but not the same as a DCOE. At one time a few years back you couldn't get spare parts for them but I think new parts have been available again for a while now. Daniel1312 In a message dated 06/01/2008 00:09:24 GMT Standard Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: 40mm Dellorto DHLA Like Weber 40 DCOE From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jan 6 11:22:44 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:22:44 EST Subject: [Spridgets] PDF files - NO LBC Message-ID: Hi List, I've just done (another) re-install of all the software on my PC starting with XP. One thing that isn't back on it yet is Adobe reader (XP version) as I always have to do a download and for some reason this never works very well. Did I mention I have dial-up? Is there a way/place to get just Adobe Reader on a free CD so I can install from disc? I did copy Adobe to my copy (backup) before doing a complete re-install but I know it will take more than copying it to my C drive to make it work. Any helpful suggestions Regards Daniel 'W e s l a k e' 1312 In a message dated 05/01/2008 00:10:43 GMT Standard Time, rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: If anyone is interested I have made a PDF From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jan 6 11:29:17 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:29:17 EST Subject: [Spridgets] You'll have to SMILE at these! Message-ID: I wish I'd seen them... In a message dated 05/01/2008 22:06:27 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: I see a hippopotamus, two women with large breasts, a roll of life savers, and an umbrella...and they're all moving. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jan 6 11:50:41 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:50:41 EST Subject: [Spridgets] PDF files - NO LBC Message-ID: Hi Phil, I found the setup file and it just installed Ok - that was a real result for me! Thanks Daniel In a message dated 06/01/2008 18:37:51 GMT Standard Time, nases at verizon.net writes: You should be able to put your copied folder back on your PC then look for the install.exe file to install it. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 12:36:30 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:36:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] You'll have to SMILE at these! In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10801051356r52a28ac8ldf2d39d0efb32097@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190801061136q3749b68fn3c75c4c2de7bbde@mail.gmail.com> Is that what they call the "acid test?" -g On 1/5/08, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I see a hippopotamus, two women with large breasts, a roll of life savers, > and an umbrella...and they're all moving. Did I pass the test? From kvacek at ameritech.net Sun Jan 6 14:37:14 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:37:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PDF files - NO LBC References: Message-ID: <004001c850ac$4e5e50a0$6e01a8c0@KARL> David Scheidt on the Shop Talk list recommended Foxit a couple of days ago as an Acrobat replacement. It's free, small, and fast, and doesn't drag your computer down like Adobe software is prone to do. I downloaded and installed it immediately and it's great. http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php NFI, YMMV, etc. Karl From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 6 15:21:21 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:21:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Ten Thoughts For 2008 Message-ID: <017f01c850b2$77c9be10$6401a8c0@Larry> >From the MG list: ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Breneman" To: "MG List" Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ten Thoughts For 2008 If a man says something in the woods and there's no woman to hear him, is he still wrong? David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 6 15:18:40 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:18:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Sprite For Sale Message-ID: <478153C0.3060306@comcast.net> My Brother in Law wants to sell his Sprite. We restored it in 1991 and he maybe put 200 miles on it since then. He uses it about once a year to go get icecream and stop by my house to say it started right up. Today he came by and said the clutch master dumped it's fluid on the floor, no clutch. But we will replace the master and slave before it goes to a new home. 69 Sprite, never been wet since we repainted it in 91 and it was a rust free car then. It does have the tin worm showing on the drivers A post now. Never wrecked, new top never installed, strong 1275 and excellant ribcase, new clutch back then. Primrose yellow, black interior. He's looking for $3000. If anybody is interested, I'll put you in touch with him. I know the car, with a fresh paint job, it's easily worth 5k. There are some knicks and scratches in the paint from the kids bikes in the same garage over the years. It still looks good and was used in my son's wedding 2 years ago. He just never uses it so it may also need new rad hoses and such. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 15:29:04 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:29:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawyer/Cop humor (LBC content?) Message-ID: <43840a7e0801061429j78e2a954pf4d9bfed057919a1@mail.gmail.com> A lawyer driving his beautifully restored Healey 3000 (obligatory LBC content) is pulled over by a cop in Philadelphia. He figures he's smarter than the cop since he is a lawyer and assumes he has a better education than the cop. He decides to prove this to himslef and have some fun at the expense of the Philadelphia cop. Cop says, "License and registraion, please". Lawyer says, ""What for?" Cop says, "You failed to come to a complete stop at the stop sign, sir." Lawyer says, "I slowed down, and no one was coming." Cop says, "You still didn't come to a complete stop. License and registration, please." Lawyer says, "What's the difference?" Cop says, "The difference is you have to come to a complete stop. That's the law. License and registration, please." Lawyer says, "If you can show me the legal difference between 'slow down' and 'stop', I'll give you my license and registration and you can give me the ticket. If not, you let me go with no ticket." Cop says, "Sounds fair enough, sir. Please exit your vehicle." The lawyer exits his Healey whereupon the cop takes out his night stick and starts beating the crap out of him. Cop says, "Do you want me to 'stop' or just 'slow down'?" From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 15:31:07 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Mgs] Ten Thoughts For 2008 In-Reply-To: <017f01c850b2$77c9be10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <017f01c850b2$77c9be10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801061431q375a583awb086a9efdd3badc@mail.gmail.com> On 1/6/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > >From the MG list: > > > If a man says something in the woods and there's no > woman to hear him, is he still wrong? Shhhh!!! Of course he is, you idiot! Now stop talking about it. Do you want to get us all in trouble with the women? Cheeez! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 15:55:08 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:55:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on fasteners.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0801061455ta4ff74ehf24cde477e1f2afc@mail.gmail.com> I've got my engine down, have found and extracted the glorious little dimple of metal I dropped into the valves and. I believe, have found and am about to repair my Exxon Valdez oil leak. Now I am ready to bolt things back together again. I want to replace all the bolts, washers and lock washers with new. The ones on the back plate, the transmission mounting bolts, the flywheel bolts and the sump bolts. I've found a kit for the sump which I ordered. but was wondering if I can just go down the fastener isle in my local Ace Hardward for all the rest? I know there are special grades of bolts, but confess I know little about them or even how to identify them. What grade should I be looking for for the fly wheel, back plate, and transmission mounts (bell housing to engine back plate). Also, will be replacing the pinch bolt where the steering column fastens to the splined shaft on the steering rack. Isn't that some special grade too? All this is on my '68 Midget. Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From Daniel1312 at aol.com Sun Jan 6 16:01:01 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:01:01 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Question on fasteners.... Message-ID: You need proper flywheel bolts or use ARP flywheel bolts. The steering column pinch bolt is a T rated rather than S or R - I use an aviation AN bolt. Lock washers do nothing useful - I gave up using them a long time ago and nothing has worked loose on my car since giving up using them. The backplate to block are nothing special though on my engine I choose to use AN drilled head bolts and lockwired them. The gearbox to backplate I used ARP stainless and it looks neat but don't need to be anything special In a message dated 06/01/2008 22:55:19 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: I've got my engine down, have found and extracted the glorious little dimple of metal I dropped into the valves and. I believe, have found and am about to repair my Exxon Valdez oil leak. Now I am ready to bolt things back together again. I want to replace all the bolts, washers and lock washers with new. The ones on the back plate, the transmission mounting bolts, the flywheel bolts and the sump bolts. I've found a kit for the sump which I ordered. but was wondering if I can just go down the fastener isle in my local Ace Hardward for all the rest? I know there are special grades of bolts, but confess I know little about them or even how to identify them. What grade should I be looking for for the fly wheel, back plate, and transmission mounts (bell housing to engine back plate). Also, will be replacing the pinch bolt where the steering column fastens to the splined shaft on the steering rack. Isn't that some special grade too? All this is on my '68 Midget. Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 17:14:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:14:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 68 Spridget owners Message-ID: If you own a two wiper, 1968 Sprite or Midget, might I ask for a favor. I need a decent photo or two, of the clutch line routing. I have pulled "old smokey" out of the Sprite, as I FINALLY got a call from Curto, telling me the carbs left NYC Friday. While I was looking under the bonnet area, I see that the clutch line isn't fastened down, and looks like it was replaced at some point. I would like to get it fastened back down correctly, and run where it belongs. All photos would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From nases at verizon.net Sun Jan 6 18:59:12 2008 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:59:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawyer/Cop humor (LBC content?) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801061429j78e2a954pf4d9bfed057919a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801061429j78e2a954pf4d9bfed057919a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001401c850d0$e6cea0a0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> They don't do that in Philly anymore since Rizzo's gone. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa The lawyer exits his Healey whereupon the cop takes out his night stick and starts beating the crap out of him. Cop says, "Do you want me to 'stop' or just 'slow down'?" From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 6 22:15:55 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 23:15:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawyer/Cop humor (LBC content?) In-Reply-To: <001401c850d0$e6cea0a0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <43840a7e0801061429j78e2a954pf4d9bfed057919a1@mail.gmail.com> <001401c850d0$e6cea0a0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801062115n5e337b0fm762e642dfb6382c0@mail.gmail.com> More's the pity.... Jim On 1/6/08, Phil Nase wrote: > > They don't do that in Philly anymore since Rizzo's gone. > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > > The lawyer exits his Healey whereupon the cop takes out his night stick > and > starts beating the crap out of him. > > Cop says, "Do you want me to 'stop' or just 'slow down'?" > > > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 7 08:03:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:03:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 68 Spridget owners In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107090105.039fc330@nosimport.com> At 06:14 PM 1/6/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >If you own a two wiper, 1968 Sprite or Midget, might I ask for a favor. I >need a decent photo or two, of the clutch line routing. I have pulled "old >smokey" out of the Sprite, as I FINALLY got a call from Curto, telling me >the carbs left NYC Friday. While I was looking under the bonnet area, I see >that the clutch line isn't fastened down, and looks like it was replaced at >some point. I would like to get it fastened back down correctly, and run >where it belongs. >All photos would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Brad ====== Brad, the 1/4"line as used on 1275s are 55" long (LHD) and so run in front of the heater tray. (7/16-20 thread single, or bubble flare both ends) Peter C. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 08:32:56 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:32:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Message-ID: <3F720582-3015-4FEB-A3D2-694EE0298283@comcast.net> Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to get the groups notes on piston suppliers. For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm Thanks, Lester From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 7 10:43:17 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:43:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Message-ID: <3182250.1199727797648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Lester, I have found many sets of AE Hepolites on ebay. You may look there. Here is a performance upgrade for ya . . . Why are you wasting your money and time on a slow engine when you can find pistons easier, alot more HP and torque if you want a Spritely engine? Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Ewing Lester >Sent: Jan 7, 2008 10:32 AM >To: Spridgets net , Bugeye >Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? > >Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to get >the groups notes on piston suppliers. > >For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a >performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, >maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm > >Thanks, > >Lester >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 11:28:40 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? In-Reply-To: <3182250.1199727797648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <3182250.1199727797648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <189B4BC0-607E-44FF-97F7-477D61C15064@comcast.net> Money.. I have a 948 engine in boxes here.. pistons are 65mm, some head work has been done as well as some rod work.. I'm sorely tempted to just get a new set of pistons (I'm missing one) hone this puppy and put it together. Only problem that I can find is that one of the valve seats dropped out.. Lester On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Hi Lester, > > I have found many sets of AE Hepolites on ebay. You may look there. > > Here is a performance upgrade for ya . . . Why are you wasting your > money and time on a slow engine when you can find pistons easier, > alot more HP and torque if you want a Spritely engine? > > Mike C > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Ewing Lester >> Sent: Jan 7, 2008 10:32 AM >> To: Spridgets net , Bugeye >> >> Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? >> >> Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to get >> the groups notes on piston suppliers. >> >> For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a >> performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, >> maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm >> >> Thanks, >> >> Lester >> _______________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 7 11:47:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:47:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] News - No LBC Message-ID: What do you guys in Wisconsin drink !!!??? http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080105/K010508AU.html From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 7 12:02:24 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 13:02:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] News - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107130159.03533068@nosimport.com> At 12:47 PM 1/7/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >What do you guys in Wisconsin drink !!!??? > >http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080105/K010508AU.html Hey pal.... same to you and the horse you rode in on.... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 7 12:07:49 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:07:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] News - No LBC In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107130159.03533068@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Who told you about the horse? >From: Peter C > >At 12:47 PM 1/7/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: > >>What do you guys in Wisconsin drink !!!??? >> >>http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080105/K010508AU.html > >Hey pal.... same to you and the horse you rode in on.... From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 7 12:09:25 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:09:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Message-ID: <27552369.1199732965547.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> What type of piston are you missing? Is it a flat-top? Any other markings inside the piston. I'll look and see if I have one in an old 948. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Ewing Lester >Sent: Jan 7, 2008 1:28 PM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter >Cc: Spridgets net , Bugeye >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Piston source? > >Money.. I have a 948 engine in boxes here.. pistons are 65mm, some >head work has been done as well as some rod work.. I'm sorely >tempted to just get a new set of pistons (I'm missing one) hone this >puppy and put it together. Only problem that I can find is that one >of the valve seats dropped out.. > >Lester > > >On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > >> Hi Lester, >> >> I have found many sets of AE Hepolites on ebay. You may look there. >> >> Here is a performance upgrade for ya . . . Why are you wasting your >> money and time on a slow engine when you can find pistons easier, >> alot more HP and torque if you want a Spritely engine? >> >> Mike C >> >> -----Original Message----- ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jan 7 12:10:26 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:10:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? In-Reply-To: <3F720582-3015-4FEB-A3D2-694EE0298283@comcast.net> References: <3F720582-3015-4FEB-A3D2-694EE0298283@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4510ab9dcaaca8a7df0a.20080107111026.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Lester, If you are going to mess around with a Judson for this engine you better leave it to stock specifications. The compression ratio is the single most important thing that must remain original. Any performance upgrade to your engine with a Judson will give you nothing but problems, mostly with overheating. The Judson was designed to work on a dead stock engine with NO modifications. It was a bolt on power source. Talk to anyone that has tried a Judson in recent times about the problems they have. It's an expensive way to try to get more HP from the anemic 948. You would be better off building a nice 1275 and putting a Datsun 5 speed on it. Just trying to save you time, money and frustration. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (that used to have a Judson) 56 BN2 Ewing Lester > Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to get > the groups notes on piston suppliers. > > For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a > performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, > maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm > > Thanks, > > Lester From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jan 7 15:04:10 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? Message-ID: A friend of mine just came across this and sent it to me. The "#49 Works Midget" seems to be the poster child illustration for the 1968 MG Midget historical blurb. I wonder if there's any royalties involved. And, why is that man yelling at me? JohnD http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z13939/MG/default.aspx From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 7 15:23:59 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:23:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com> At 04:04 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >A friend of mine just came across this and sent it to me. > >The "#49 Works Midget" seems to be the poster child illustration for the >1968 MG Midget historical blurb. > >I wonder if there's any royalties involved. And, why is that man >yelling at me? > >JohnD ===================== John, I can read lips....... he's saying "GET THAT POS OFF THE TRACK, NOW!" Glad I could help. Ed From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 7 16:13:29 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:13:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Hey PPP, leave ME outa dis!!! And enjoy your "weather" and nitwit drivers on I90!!!! The REAL Ed!! ********************************************************************** At 04:04 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: >A friend of mine just came across this and sent it to me. > >The "#49 Works Midget" seems to be the poster child illustration for the >1968 MG Midget historical blurb. > >I wonder if there's any royalties involved. And, why is that man >yelling at me? > >JohnD ===================== John, I can read lips....... he's saying "GET THAT POS OFF THE TRACK, NOW!" Glad I could help. Ed From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 7 16:14:38 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:14:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Lawyer/Cop humor (LBC content?) References: <43840a7e0801061429j78e2a954pf4d9bfed057919a1@mail.gmail.com><001401c850d0$e6cea0a0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> <43840a7e0801062115n5e337b0fm762e642dfb6382c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <025101c85183$1385a370$6401a8c0@actualshop> < wrote: > They don't do that in Philly anymore since Rizzo's gone. >> Ain't THAT gospel!!!!! From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 7 16:31:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:31:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? In-Reply-To: <024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com> <024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107172851.03a88ec0@nosimport.com> Yeah, I can't figure if it's the idiots or the maniacs that are dying up here. A few more today on a different highway. The thunderstorms and hail and tornadoes are washing away 2 feet of snow.... with areas of "patchy fog". At 05:13 PM 1/7/2008, shop at justbrits.com wrote: >Hey PPP, leave ME outa dis!!! And enjoy your "weather" and nitwit drivers on >I90!!!! > >The REAL Ed!! From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 16:52:25 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:52:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It's green! Message-ID: <4782BB39.50906@comcast.net> The 67 now has a couple of coats of BRG paint on it. It looks better than I expected. I mean I firmly believe this car was crushed and hand hammered back to resemble a Sprite at some point in it's life. But lots of dolly work, some taco bell wrappers and a few gallons of bondo made it purdy. I will redo some minor spots on the bonnet but that's about it. I still will repaint the whole car with several more coats after I fix the spot on the bonnet and sand down the whole car one more time. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 16:54:30 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again Message-ID: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> Ok, I know, we talk tires once a month and I never paid much attention. My question is....Will 175/70 x 13s fit on a square wheel arch Sprite? Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 17:10:33 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:10:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again References: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <03fc01c8518a$e3e8f150$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Well, CHANGE 'em!! Simple AND "cheaper"!!! DL From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Jan 7 17:26:17 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:26:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] DCOE Type Message-ID: I think the biggest difference between the DHLA and DCOE is the former has a diaphragm operated accelerator pump system while the DCOE's is strictly mechanical. The former is supposed to be more "user-friendly". CapBob From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 7 17:56:11 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:56:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again In-Reply-To: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> References: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <478259AB.289.209C926@dmg.bossig.com> Frank, On my SWA '65 I have factory wire wheels with 155/80/13's... Running them at 32 psi I do drive in a 'spirited' manner (to which my kids object loudly!!) I do not have any tire/body interference problems... (yet!!) Standard un-modified suspension I weigh 160#, my biggest boy weighs in at #165 Hope this helps... On 7 Jan 2008 at 18:54, Frank Clarici wrote: >> Ok, I know, we talk tires once a month and I never paid much >> attention. >> My question is....Will 175/70 x 13s fit on a square wheel arch >> Sprite? >> Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dwramsey at att.net Mon Jan 7 18:16:55 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:16:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again In-Reply-To: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080108011811.79DD5187A31@autox.team.net> Yea it takes a really good driver to get everything out of the 155's, but you are right they sure won't "cut it" even on the square arch cars, because they fit. Crash Ok, I know, we talk tires once a month and I never paid much attention. My question is....Will 175/70 x 13s fit on a square wheel arch Sprite? Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Jan 7 19:13:43 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 21:13:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again Message-ID: <18647866.1199758427977.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Frank Clarici wrote: Will 175/70 x 13s fit on a square wheel arch Sprite? Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) 175/70/13 on the rostyles will rub a little during spirited driving. Not a serious rub, but still a noticeable rub. Since you have the car apart, just jack the rear arches out a little and roll the lip. No problem then... Kent 1060 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 7 19:26:11 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:26:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again In-Reply-To: <18647866.1199758427977.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Message-ID: > Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) Just what kind of habitual driver are you? From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 7 20:30:02 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 21:30:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again References: Message-ID: <0b3201c851a6$c1601660$6401a8c0@actualshop> WAY to EASY, BZ!! <> A wop sided NUT!!! NO doubt!!! And from Joisey, yet!!! PPP From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 7 20:36:00 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:36:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again In-Reply-To: <0b3201c851a6$c1601660$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <0b3201c851a6$c1601660$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <4782EFA0.6050805@comcast.net> shop at justbrits.com wrote: > WAY to EASY, BZ!! > > <> > > A wop sided NUT!!! > > NO doubt!!! And from Joisey, yet!!! You REALLY don't like your knee caps do you? Guido From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 7 22:00:20 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:00:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com> <024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <7.0.1.0.2.20080107172851.03a88ec0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <017401c851b3$5e9d6bb0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Chicago Tribune reported "...wall of fog." Only in "Cheeze Land" COULD it be "patchy" PPP!!! LOL From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 7 23:29:15 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 00:29:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107172851.03a88ec0@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com> <024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <7.0.1.0.2.20080107172851.03a88ec0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801072229g6857cfebj3888d67ec1a4999e@mail.gmail.com> Ya'll need to put down the beer caqn and go to church on Sundays. That would clear up a lot of your weather problems... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 1/7/08, Peter C wrote: > > Yeah, I can't figure if it's the idiots or the maniacs that are dying > up here. A few more today on a different highway. > > The thunderstorms and hail and tornadoes are washing away 2 feet of > snow.... with areas of "patchy fog". > > At 05:13 PM 1/7/2008, shop at justbrits.com wrote: > > >Hey PPP, leave ME outa dis!!! And enjoy your "weather" and nitwit > drivers on > >I90!!!! > > > >The REAL Ed!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 8 02:36:17 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:36:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Message-ID: Judson??? I suggest you listen to Mike, Lester. He's BTDT with an 8.3-1 stock 948. Otherwise.... Hope you have a supplier of 100+RON (today's racing) gas available at reasonable price. These older vane-type blowers worked but they are real heat producers in the process. Without the higher octane gasolines of yesteryear they were designed to run on, or an alcohol/water delivery system to take the place of yesterday's readily available leaded, more "manly" higher octanes (at reasonable prices) to cool things off, you'll have the normal problems associated with this application in terms of overheating. Only one guy I personally know of that made it work on today's garbage octane unleaded premiums and he had the entire blower/motor "heat treated" with ceramics which he could easily afford to do since he worked for the company involved in the process. He also upgraded the vane material as well. IMHO, better off upgrading to a 1275, maybe "tuned", with an alum. head with 10.0-1CR. Hook it up to a Datsun 5 speed, select your diff. ratio depending on your type of driving, turn the key and drive away on today's more reasonably priced unleaded pump premiums with no overheating problems assciated with pre-ignition/detonation. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Ewing Lester Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 10:32 AM To: Spridgets net, Bugeye Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to get the groups notes on piston suppliers. For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm Thanks, Lester You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jan 8 05:15:35 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 07:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bed Check Message-ID: <69cq7p$2b3ata@email.mtu.edu> I see on the news this a.m. that Wisconsin and other places blew away in the storms last night. Time for a bed check. Everyone OK? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 8 05:52:25 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 06:52:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Am I Famous Now? References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080107162135.01baebc8@nosimport.com><024d01c85182$ed4aa6b0$6401a8c0@actualshop><7.0.1.0.2.20080107172851.03a88ec0@nosimport.com> <43840a7e0801072229g6857cfebj3888d67ec1a4999e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013701c851f5$521fc3f0$0401a8c0@midget> > Ya'll need to put down the beer caqn and go to church on Sundays. That > would > clear up a lot of your weather problems... ;-) Not quite sure what a "beer caqn" is, but I do know that NPR had a bit on last week correlating the usual good weather on Christmas morning with the prayers of the preachers and priests who know how much their bottom line will hurt if the weather keeps the people away. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 06:34:35 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 07:34:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bed Check In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2b3ata@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$2b3ata@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801080534h35430dd2k59837d116af15ee5@mail.gmail.com> I heard mostly Kenosha got hit. Who cares about rednecks and old AMC Gremlins? I was in Ozaukee county, about 10 miles north of the Milwaukee county border. I saw lightning when I left Milwaukee but didn't think much else. It wsa 70 degrees in Kenosha though, that's a bad mix with that cold air still hanging around. On Jan 8, 2008 6:15 AM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I see on the news this a.m. that Wisconsin and other places blew away > in the storms last night. Time for a bed check. Everyone OK? > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jan 8 08:00:23 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:00:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] You will not believe this Message-ID: <20080108090023.ve6gtwom2zusks84@webmail.opentransfer.com> http://jalopnik.com/341270/tire-separates-from-race-car-reattaches-to-race-car -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jan 8 08:38:33 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:38:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again In-Reply-To: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> References: <4782BBB6.6060900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080108093833.cvns140jj480g8co@webmail.opentransfer.com> Frank, 175/70's Michelins are what I have on my car. So, yes they will fit, but I rolled the lip on the innerfender on the rear, just to be safe ;-) Larry Quoting Frank Clarici : > Ok, I know, we talk tires once a month and I never paid much attention. > My question is....Will 175/70 x 13s fit on a square wheel arch Sprite? > Due to my driving habits, 155 80s just won't cut it ;) > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 7 21:32:11 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 22:32:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tires again References: <0b3201c851a6$c1601660$6401a8c0@actualshop> <4782EFA0.6050805@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003901c851af$700854e0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Guido, take yer GPS away and you would NEVER find me!!!! Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jan 8 09:29:43 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 10:29:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn Message-ID: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From ggroiss at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 09:41:06 2008 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:41:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: Never found much use for it but I'm on there. On 1/8/08, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 09:59:56 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 08:59:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: <441250190801080859t2e9842aehce80e2890b2031f2@mail.gmail.com> +1. On 1/8/08, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jan 8 10:05:51 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:05:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: <002a01c85218$c53ab1b0$4fb01510$@com> I am Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:30 AM To: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM From lists at woozy.com Tue Jan 8 12:15:22 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:15:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: <4783CBCA.9000303@woozy.com> Not me, I hate all that social-networking-give-us-all-your-personal-info-so-we-can-get-rich-off-you-while-invading-your-privacy-stuff. Funny thing about it is that I'm a web database application programmer by day ;-) Robert Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lists at woozy.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Jan 8 12:14:23 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 11:14:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <002a01c85218$c53ab1b0$4fb01510$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> <002a01c85218$c53ab1b0$4fb01510$@com> Message-ID: <004501c8522a$af0036b0$6d7ba8c0@edgewireless.com> Me too -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:06 AM To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson'; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn I am Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:30 AM To: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jan 8 12:14:51 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:14:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <4783CBCA.9000303@woozy.com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> <4783CBCA.9000303@woozy.com> Message-ID: <017e01c8522a$c366d6e0$4a3484a0$@com> I've found it to be a very valuable source for professional networking. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Weeks [mailto:lists at woozy.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:15 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn Not me, I hate all that social-networking-give-us-all-your-personal-info-so-we-can-get-rich-off-you- while-invading-your-privacy-stuff. Funny thing about it is that I'm a web database application programmer by day ;-) Robert From Daniel1312 at aol.com Tue Jan 8 12:22:05 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:22:05 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? Message-ID: Do you mean because his company was involved in the process and didn't know he couldn't afford it but they could?? In a message dated 08/01/2008 09:36:48 GMT Standard Time, pilotrob at webtv.net writes: which he could easily afford to do since he worked for the company involved in the process. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 8 13:36:20 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:36:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A4D432-866C-4C53-8451-AFD1F336D305@comcast.net> Spoken like an employer.. not an employee.. ;-) Lester On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > Do you mean because his company was involved in the process and > didn't know he couldn't afford it but they could?? > > In a message dated 08/01/2008 09:36:48 GMT Standard Time, > pilotrob at webtv.net writes: > which he could easily afford to do since he worked for the company > involved in the process. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 8 15:31:08 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:31:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: > how many of you are on LinkedIn? Is that like Vicodin or Prozac? From p.herder at cox.net Tue Jan 8 15:36:58 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:36:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: It's similar only different... -----Original Message----- > how many of you are on LinkedIn? Is that like Vicodin or Prozac? _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 8 16:53:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <478843.1029.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Me too. --- Gregory Groiss wrote: > Never found much use for it but I'm on there. > > > > On 1/8/08, Wm. Severin Thompson > wrote: > > Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jan 8 20:13:40 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:13:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine serial numbers Message-ID: <72BE60CE95BE49588CEFFCE886283DBE@Home> Where can I find information to interpret A-series engine serial numbers? Michael Rowe Long Island From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 20:15:40 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 21:15:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine serial numbers In-Reply-To: <72BE60CE95BE49588CEFFCE886283DBE@Home> References: <72BE60CE95BE49588CEFFCE886283DBE@Home> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801081915n3f956abcr13d154cd26c512b5@mail.gmail.com> Moss or VB catalog, to start. Beyond that, ask one of the Usual Suspects (Paul, PPP, or Ed) From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 8 20:48:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:48:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> Message-ID: <4784441C.2070600@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? I'm not on it yet but I'm sure my doctor will prescribe it for me. What are the side effects? What does it do? Ed From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jan 8 20:55:14 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC LinkedIn In-Reply-To: <4784441C.2070600@comcast.net> References: <00d701c85213$aeec7f10$0cc57d30$@com> <4784441C.2070600@comcast.net> Message-ID: <306A744D-1A9D-4F01-B82F-030B7E8E5868@phillymgclub.com> It makes your willie bigger and makes you more attractive to older women anon On Jan 8, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >> Hey. how many of you are on LinkedIn? > > I'm not on it yet but I'm sure my doctor will prescribe it for me. > What are the side effects? > What does it do? > > Ed > _______________________________________________ From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jan 8 21:39:52 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:39:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> So, I am buying a spare engine to play with and upgrade to the extent reasonable for every day street use and my limited knowledge and experience. I am offered two engines by the same guy at the same price. 2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on top. Turns easily. He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of the rebuild. 2C/D/H21311 (= 12C/Da/H21311 ?), a 1967-69 Sprite This engine was running "strongly" when removed from PO's car (a Crosley Hotshot) He finished rebuilding the proper Crosley engine, so took out the Sprite engine. Who likes what and why? Michael Rowe Long Island From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 8 21:57:46 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:57:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> Message-ID: Get the one that isn't painted blue. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jan 9 05:51:12 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 07:51:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: <27285728.1199883072948.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> If you tell me where they are, I'll go get them both and you wont have to be concerned by it anymore ;^)). MC -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Rowe >Sent: Jan 8, 2008 11:39 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? > >So, I am buying a spare engine to play with and upgrade to the extent reasonable for every day street use and my limited knowledge and experience. I am offered two engines by the same guy at the same price. > >2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget >This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on top. Turns easily. >He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of the rebuild. > >2C/D/H21311 (= 12C/Da/H21311 ?), a 1967-69 Sprite >This engine was running "strongly" when removed from PO's car (a Crosley Hotshot) >He finished rebuilding the proper Crosley engine, so took out the Sprite engine. > >Who likes what and why? > >Michael Rowe >Long Island ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jan 9 07:08:37 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 8:08:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01> what does the blue paint mean? From something else? Chris ---- Billy Zoom wrote: > Get the one that isn't painted blue. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 9 07:35:46 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:35:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Locations Message-ID: Some of you have said that you have trouble finding engines and that they are very expensive. That is extremely useful information if I know you are somewhere within driving distance of Long Island,NY. It is not useful if you are in California or Australia. I think it might often be helpful if we all added our locations to our signature line. Certainly it would help me, as I expect to be asking a lot of questions about parts, etc. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 9 07:38:27 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:38:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01> References: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Message-ID: <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a marker. Do others agree? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Billy Zoom" Cc: "Michael Rowe" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > what does the blue paint mean? From something else? > > Chris > > ---- Billy Zoom wrote: >> Get the one that isn't painted blue. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 9 08:11:21 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:11:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> References: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01> <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> Message-ID: <006c01c852d1$ebe7ab10$c3b70130$@com> Probably just had Chrysler, Ford, or Pontiac engine paint left over from a job. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:38 AM To: cmanuel at wi.rr.com; Billy Zoom Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a marker. Do others agree? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 9 08:25:49 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:25:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> Message-ID: > engine rebuilders often use blue paint I don't trust most rebuilders, especially with a Spridget engine. There are too many bad parts available. "comes from a guy with a Crosley Hot Shot, who says it ran strong" is a good reference. I'd tend to trust any guy who drives a Crosley. "comes from a guy who knows nothing about it except that it's blue" is not a good reference. Anybody who'd paint a Spridget engine blue isn't into Spridgets, and probably rebuilt it like it was a Ford...if in fact it's rebuilt and not just painted after the sloppy valve job. New paint doesn't guarantee a rebuilt engine. If you're planning to do a complete rebuild anyway, then all that really counts is the diameter of the bore, but I'd still go with the older block and head. BZ From lists at woozy.com Wed Jan 9 08:32:36 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> References: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01> <0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> Message-ID: <4784E914.80600@woozy.com> If it were me, I'd get the one that was running strong. If I remember correctly, the engines that were rebuilt by BMC under warranty were painted gold and had serial numbers starting with 'U'. I can't remember what they were called, Heritage Rebuilt maybe? Frank would know. ;-) Robert Michael Rowe wrote: > The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a > marker. Do others agree? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Billy Zoom" > Cc: "Michael Rowe" ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > > > >> what does the blue paint mean? From something else? >> >> Chris >> >> ---- Billy Zoom wrote: >> >>> Get the one that isn't painted blue. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lists at woozy.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 9 08:28:53 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:28:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? References: <18082814.274311199887717508.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web02-z01><0DD9903A83BE451CB920E9820AD346EA@Home> <4784E914.80600@woozy.com> Message-ID: <000701c852d4$5812a360$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > If I remember correctly, the engines that were rebuilt by BMC under > warranty were painted gold and had serial numbers starting with 'U'. I > can't remember what they were called, Heritage Rebuilt maybe? Frank > would know. ;-) Wouldn't those be the "Gold Seal" engines? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 9 08:43:33 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:43:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <000701c852d4$5812a360$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > "Gold Seal" engines? Gold is OK. That's a Hudson engine color. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 08:58:42 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:58:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: To digress even further ... Gold plated would be great what with the price of gold setting new records. ( I don't have enough money to be invested, so don't trust me as a valid source. ) >From: Billy Zoom > > > "Gold Seal" engines? >Gold is OK. That's a Hudson engine color. From sprite58 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 9 09:12:22 2008 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For Sale 4 Bugeyes & 1 MK 4 Sprite Message-ID: 4 Bugeyes & 1 MK 4 Sprite for salehttp://www.austinhealeysprite.org/sale_wanted.html _________________________________________________________________ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 09:23:07 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:23:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Still digressing ... if it is one of these blue ones at a reasonable price and it's not stolen ... http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?codeadof.htm Okay, so I googled blue a-series engine and that's what I found. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 9 09:38:18 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:38:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> Michael, Without being able to pass judgement on the quality of the 2 engines or their condition, all being equal I would lean toward building the 67-69 as it should have the hardened crank and the cool rods. But, then again if either parts were substituted in its last rebuild, then it's a horse apiece. So, the luminary Mr. Zoom is correct, not the blue one. Peter C. Oh, and I'm in Westconsin == At 10:39 PM 1/8/2008, Michael Rowe wrote: >So, I am buying a spare engine to play with and upgrade to the >extent reasonable for every day street use and my limited knowledge >and experience. I am offered two engines by the same guy at the same price. > >2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget >This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on >top. Turns easily. >He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of >the rebuild. > >2C/D/H21311 (= 12C/Da/H21311 ?), a 1967-69 Sprite >This engine was running "strongly" when removed from PO's car (a >Crosley Hotshot) >He finished rebuilding the proper Crosley engine, so took out the >Sprite engine. > >Who likes what and why? > >Michael Rowe >Long Island >_______________________________________________ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 09:54:42 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:54:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Billy GLOWS? I remember the episode of Gilligan's Island, when he drank the phosphorous and glowed, but I just thought that was TV magic.... On Jan 9, 2008 10:38 AM, Peter C wrote: > Michael, > So, the luminary Mr. Zoom is correct From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 9 10:08:08 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:08:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. Be nice..... I think he's new here. Did you ever get the clutch line routing for your 68? Peter = At 10:54 AM 1/9/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >Billy GLOWS? >I remember the episode of Gilligan's Island, when he drank the >phosphorous and glowed, but I just thought that was TV magic.... > >On Jan 9, 2008 10:38 AM, Peter C < >peter at nosimport.com> wrote: >Michael, > So, the luminary Mr. Zoom is correct From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jan 9 10:10:09 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:10:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: <10940255.308861199898610144.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web22-z01> Super! Looks like my blue and green 1098 will have some fun in the research dept. this spring. Chris Brookfield, WI ---- Peter C wrote: > Michael, > Without being able to pass judgement on the quality of the 2 > engines or their condition, all being equal I would lean toward > building the 67-69 as it should have the hardened crank and the cool > rods. But, then again if either parts were substituted in its last > rebuild, then it's a horse apiece. > So, the luminary Mr. Zoom is correct, not the blue one. > > Peter C. > Oh, and I'm in Westconsin > == > At 10:39 PM 1/8/2008, Michael Rowe wrote: > > >So, I am buying a spare engine to play with and upgrade to the > >extent reasonable for every day street use and my limited knowledge > >and experience. I am offered two engines by the same guy at the same price. > > > >2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget > >This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on > >top. Turns easily. > >He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of > >the rebuild. > > > >2C/D/H21311 (= 12C/Da/H21311 ?), a 1967-69 Sprite > >This engine was running "strongly" when removed from PO's car (a > >Crosley Hotshot) > >He finished rebuilding the proper Crosley engine, so took out the > >Sprite engine. > > > >Who likes what and why? > > > >Michael Rowe > >Long Island > >_______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 9 10:12:45 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:12:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00e401c852e2$ddadf1b0$9909d510$@com> And I love his show on the Discovery Channel... http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/dirtyjobs/dirtyjobs.html -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter C Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:08 AM To: Brad Fornal Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. Be nice..... I think he's new here. Did you ever get the clutch line routing for your 68? Peter = From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 9 10:13:35 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:13:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Billy GLOWS? I've been told more than once that my musician's tan makes my legs look like two fluorescent bulbs when I wear shorts, and that I glow white in the water when I swim. Fortunately, our lighting director has a good supply of flesh jells. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jan 9 10:20:43 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:20:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> Message-ID: <947A21FF-B75A-4EA6-A0D7-B60294C40516@valentinephoto.net> Michael, Will the guy selling the motor let you hook up a starter to turn the engines for a compression test? That might give you some valuable info ;) If that's not possible, I'd take the 67-69 engine. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa On Jan 8, 2008, at 11:39 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > So, I am buying a spare engine to play with and upgrade to the > extent reasonable for every day street use and my limited knowledge > and experience. I am offered two engines by the same guy at the > same price. > > 2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget > This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on top. > Turns easily. > He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of > the rebuild. > > 2C/D/H21311 (= 12C/Da/H21311 ?), a 1967-69 Sprite > This engine was running "strongly" when removed from PO's car (a > Crosley Hotshot) > He finished rebuilding the proper Crosley engine, so took out the > Sprite engine. > > Who likes what and why? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevin at valentinephoto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 10:22:44 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:22:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <00e401c852e2$ddadf1b0$9909d510$@com> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> <00e401c852e2$ddadf1b0$9909d510$@com> Message-ID: GREAT show, they were running about 6 of them, back to back this weekend On Jan 9, 2008 11:12 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > And I love his show on the Discovery Channel... > > http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/dirtyjobs/dirtyjobs.html > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Peter C > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:08 AM > To: Brad Fornal > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > > If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. > > Be nice..... I think he's new here. > > Did you ever get the clutch line routing for your 68? > > Peter > = > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 10:25:29 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:25:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> References: <1B870CA6F49947B3B1D31FC7692739EA@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109103057.03677e30@nosimport.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080109110350.03661850@nosimport.com> Message-ID: No, not yet, I just flat ass forgot to send Jim Johnson, and James Gruber private messages, asking for routing photos. I lined up my schedule, to have Friday off, so I hope to get some pressure washing done then. Once it is clean, I'll start taking off parts that need a bit of paint, and try to correctly route those items not fastened down any more. I also want to mount my Oogah horn further up under the wing. I know it isn't original, so I will try and hide it. The little kids (me included) get such a kick out of it. On Jan 9, 2008 11:08 AM, Peter C wrote: > If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. > > Be nice..... I think he's new here. > > Did you ever get the clutch line routing for your 68? > > Peter > = > At 10:54 AM 1/9/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: > > >Billy GLOWS? > >I remember the episode of Gilligan's Island, when he drank the > >phosphorous and glowed, but I just thought that was TV magic.... > > > >On Jan 9, 2008 10:38 AM, Peter C < > >peter at nosimport.com> wrote: > >Michael, > > So, the luminary Mr. Zoom is correct > > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 9 10:56:51 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:56:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? Message-ID: In a message dated 1/9/2008 8:45:00 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Get the one that isn't painted blue. Reminds me of the 53 Cheby pick up I had in the 70's. Every time i took a part off I cleaned it well and painted it red, blue, or white. The engine was fair, but looked like a flag! We sold it for about 25% over the going rate because the engine was clean and colorful. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jan 9 11:27:40 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:27:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? References: Message-ID: <004c01c852ed$51b1e940$53997e4c@HP> Check out the Bugeye (ADO13) at this link, it is an original prototype. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > Still digressing ... if it is one of these blue ones at a reasonable price > and it's not stolen ... > > http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?codeadof.htm > > > Okay, so I googled blue a-series engine and that's what I found. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 9 11:31:21 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:31:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? References: Message-ID: <00b801c852ed$d693db00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> 1275 Blue is great!! Put in a junk yard 1275 that had been in a roll over wreck and was all crusty paint! Got 105K after a mickey mouse rebuild and blue painted! (I like blue!) Then did a proper rebuild,rebore and managed to get 265K painted blue. (I like blue!) Put it in a little used Van for about 10 years, wracked up about 35K miles Took it out and apart, crank still std./std. Blue is great!! (I like blue!) Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "David Lieb" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > > "Gold Seal" engines? > Gold is OK. That's a Hudson engine color. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 11:33:49 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:33:49 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: What are the cool rods and is there is a definite date the rods changed to uncool? Daniel1312 - Nuneaton (no engines for sale!) In a message dated 09/01/2008 16:39:06 GMT Standard Time, peter at nosimport.com writes: 67-69 as it should have the hardened crank and the cool rods. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 11:36:38 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:36:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Locations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801091036q3869e034v8e044589e5ba4f42@mail.gmail.com> Michael, There is a Frappr map for midget & sprite people at: http://www.Frappr.com/midgetspriteowners Not everyone is on it of course, but everyone *could* be.... ;-) You can add yourself and I'd encourage everyone to get on the map. I've used these maps with other groups I'm involved with and they really do help a lot! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Michael Rowe wrote: > > Some of you have said that you have trouble finding engines and that they > are very expensive. That is extremely useful information if I know you are > somewhere within driving distance of Long Island,NY. It is not useful if > you are in California or Australia. I think it might often be helpful if we > all added our locations to our signature line. Certainly it would help me, > as I expect to be asking a lot of questions about parts, etc. > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 11:37:14 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:37:14 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: Except for my friend who built a 'famous' turbo Bugeye but for which the photos are printed in b&w. Personally the engine in my Sprite is red and so was the one before that. Daniel1312 In a message dated 09/01/2008 15:26:02 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Anybody who'd paint a Spridget engine blue isn't into Spridgets, and probably rebuilt it like it was a Ford From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 11:38:18 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:38:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bore Re: Which one? Message-ID: Yup, go with the one with the most meat left in it. Daniel1312 - one of my spare engines is a Marina, blue and clean but rotten to the core inside! In a message dated 09/01/2008 15:26:02 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: counts is the diameter of the bore From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 11:40:58 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:40:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <004c01c852ed$51b1e940$53997e4c@HP> Message-ID: Isn't that what your car is plated as? >From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" >To: "Robert Duquette" >, >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? >Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:27:40 -0800 > >Check out the Bugeye (ADO13) at this link, it is an original prototype. > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" > >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:23 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > > >>Still digressing ... if it is one of these blue ones at a reasonable price >>and it's not stolen ... >> >>http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?codeadof.htm >> >> >>Okay, so I googled blue a-series engine and that's what I found. From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 9 11:46:11 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 12:46:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <00b801c852ed$d693db00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <00b801c852ed$d693db00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <011901c852ef$ea234320$be69c960$@com> This coming from a guy that sells the best Morris green paint? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:31 PM To: Billy Zoom; David Lieb; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? 1275 Blue is great!! Put in a junk yard 1275 that had been in a roll over wreck and was all crusty paint! Got 105K after a mickey mouse rebuild and blue painted! (I like blue!) Then did a proper rebuild,rebore and managed to get 265K painted blue. (I like blue!) Put it in a little used Van for about 10 years, wracked up about 35K miles Took it out and apart, crank still std./std. Blue is great!! (I like blue!) Paul A From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 9 11:49:33 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:49:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? References: <00b801c852ed$d693db00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <011901c852ef$ea234320$be69c960$@com> Message-ID: <00de01c852f0$61b5eb40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Yup! But blue is my favorite color! Had a blue car with a blue engine!!! (I like blue!) Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Paul Asgeirsson'" ; "'Billy Zoom'" ; "'David Lieb'" ; "'Spridget List'" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Which one? > This coming from a guy that sells the best Morris green paint? From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jan 9 11:51:19 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:51:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? References: Message-ID: <006501c852f0$9f91a490$53997e4c@HP> Not my car but my web site "ado13.com" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? > Isn't that what your car is plated as? > >>From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" >>To: "Robert Duquette" >>, >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? >>Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 10:27:40 -0800 >> >>Check out the Bugeye (ADO13) at this link, it is an original prototype. >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" >> >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:23 AM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? >> >> >>>Still digressing ... if it is one of these blue ones at a reasonable >>>price >>>and it's not stolen ... >>> >>>http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/index.htm?codeadof.htm >>> >>> >>>Okay, so I googled blue a-series engine and that's what I found. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 12:15:03 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:15:03 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? Message-ID: Not over here Daniel1312 - I thought Frappr was some kind of fancy coffee In a message dated 09/01/2008 14:38:51 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a marker. Do others agree? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 12:26:04 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:26:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] CJ block casting Re: Which one? Message-ID: Hi list, The CJ engines were USA only evap loss engines - but was the CJ block casting the same as the CE and CD casting? I'm assuming it was - any comment? Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 09/01/2008 04:40:26 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: 2CJ/D/H36677 (= 12CJ/Da/H36677 ?), a 1970-71 Sprite or Midget This engine appears to be rebuilt, blue paint, very clean on top. Turns easily. He has never run it, and doesn't know its history or the nature of the rebuild From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 12:28:25 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:28:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? Message-ID: Can you translate that for a guy with a Sprite on a 45DCOE weber? ED In a message dated 09/01/2008 17:57:19 GMT Standard Time, RampantNM at aol.com writes: Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 12:31:46 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:31:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In France ( or Quebec ) it would be "to hit, stab, strike, knock" ... oh no wait that's "Frapper". :) http://french.about.com/od/vocabulary/g/frapper.htm >From: Daniel1312 at aol.com >Not over here > >Daniel1312 - I thought Frappr was some kind of fancy coffee From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 12:34:54 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:34:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801091134x148c42dfo1f3e3356f87bd417@mail.gmail.com> Hi Daniel, The Frappr map is world wide. It is available to anyone in the UK or OZ as well as North America. We raise West Highland White Terriers and I have a lot of list members in the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and down under. They are all on our Frapper map. Alan East-Jones and several others are on the map. Just zoom out until the UK appears.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > Not over here > > Daniel1312 - I thought Frappr was some kind of fancy coffee > > In a message dated 09/01/2008 14:38:51 GMT Standard Time, > mdrowe at optonline.net writes: > > The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a > marker. Do others agree? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jan 9 12:46:17 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:46:17 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801091134x148c42dfo1f3e3356f87bd417@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c852f8$4db89a90$0501a8c0@MAIN> Daniel's "not over here" comment related to the question about the use of blue paint. Not to his comment about Frapper. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: 09 January 2008 19:35 To: Daniel1312 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which one? Hi Daniel, The Frappr map is world wide. It is available to anyone in the UK or OZ as well as North America. We raise West Highland White Terriers and I have a lot of list members in the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and down under. They are all on our Frapper map. Alan East-Jones and several others are on the map. Just zoom out until the UK appears.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > Not over here > > Daniel1312 - I thought Frappr was some kind of fancy coffee > > In a message dated 09/01/2008 14:38:51 GMT Standard Time, > mdrowe at optonline.net writes: > > The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a > marker. Do others agree? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 12:51:10 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:51:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <000401c852f8$4db89a90$0501a8c0@MAIN> References: <43840a7e0801091134x148c42dfo1f3e3356f87bd417@mail.gmail.com> <000401c852f8$4db89a90$0501a8c0@MAIN> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801091151g47a33e44p7ab8f6ee83309249@mail.gmail.com> Sorry! I misinterpreted! Too much Frappacino with my meds!! ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Guy Weller wrote: > > Daniel's "not over here" comment related to the question about the use of > blue paint. Not to his comment about Frapper. > > Guy > > Hi Daniel, > > The Frappr map is world wide. It is available to anyone in the UK or OZ as > well as North America. We raise West Highland White Terriers and I have a > lot of list members in the UK, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and down under. > They > are all on our Frapper map. Alan East-Jones and several others are on the > map. Just zoom out until the UK appears.... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim On 1/9/08, Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > > > > Not over here > > > > Daniel1312 - I thought Frappr was some kind of fancy coffee > > > > In a message dated 09/01/2008 14:38:51 GMT Standard Time, > > mdrowe at optonline.net writes: > > > > The seller says he thinks engine rebuilders often use blue paint as a > > marker. Do others agree? > > > > Michael Rowe > > Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 9 12:52:57 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:52:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dirty Jobs Message-ID: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> Yes, I am new. And yes, it is, in fact, a dirty job to paw through the ...information...you guys sling. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. Be nice..... I think he's new here. And I love his show on the Discovery Channel... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 9 12:54:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:54:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? References: Message-ID: <005401c852f9$786553e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Robert B. Houston > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners > Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for > experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ___________________________________________________ > Can you translate that for a guy with a Sprite on a 45DCOE weber? > ED No, these things are only aplicable to MG owners From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 12:56:44 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:56:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dirty Jobs In-Reply-To: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> References: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> Message-ID: I didn't sling any "information" Sunday. I was out working on the 68, while I had the nice 78* weather. When it gets cold again, I'll go inside. It's nice long sleeve weather now, with the temps in the lower 60's. Brad (planning on pressure washing off the 40 years of accumulated rust inhibitor Friday) Fornal On Jan 9, 2008 1:52 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Yes, I am new. > And yes, it is, in fact, a dirty job to paw through the > ...information...you guys sling. > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > > If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. > Be nice..... I think he's new here. > And I love his show on the Discovery Channel... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 12:57:37 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:57:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? In-Reply-To: <005401c852f9$786553e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <005401c852f9$786553e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: And they don't cover DCOE's in the Haynes shop manual... On Jan 9, 2008 1:54 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > Robert B. Houston > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners > > Union > > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly > formed, > > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for > > experienced > > hands, > > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected > and > > adjusted as > > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > ___________________________________________________ > > > Can you translate that for a guy with a Sprite on a 45DCOE weber? > > ED > > No, these things are only aplicable to MG owners > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Daniel1312 at aol.com Wed Jan 9 13:20:55 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:20:55 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? Message-ID: Unless it's the Haynes Weber carb shop manual ISBN 1 85010 020 9 Daniel1312 n a message dated 09/01/2008 19:57:51 GMT Standard Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: And they don't cover DCOE's in the Haynes shop manual... From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 9 13:26:22 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:26:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dirty Jobs In-Reply-To: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> References: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> Message-ID: <015701c852fd$e88b5cb0$b9a21610$@com> Michael, Stick it out... you'll find its worth it. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:53 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Dirty Jobs Yes, I am new. And yes, it is, in fact, a dirty job to paw through the ...information...you guys sling. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY If we're not careful, we'll scare Mr. Rowe away. Be nice..... I think he's new here. And I love his show on the Discovery Channel... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 13:27:08 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:27:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well Ed! If you have the manual ... look it up ... :) >From: Daniel1312 at aol.com > >Unless it's the Haynes Weber carb shop manual ISBN 1 85010 020 9 > >Daniel1312 > >n a message dated 09/01/2008 19:57:51 GMT Standard Time, >tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > >And they don't cover DCOE's in the Haynes shop manual... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 13:37:51 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:37:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: True, true, and I DO have that manual On Jan 9, 2008 2:20 PM, wrote: > Unless it's the Haynes Weber carb shop manual ISBN 1 85010 020 9 > > Daniel1312 > > n a message dated 09/01/2008 19:57:51 GMT Standard Time, > tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > > And they don't cover DCOE's in the Haynes shop manual... > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 14:01:28 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:01:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8724E520-EB0C-4385-B067-38485DB83454@comcast.net> Pfftt.. use the Big Weber book or the the little books about Webers..Tuning in practice or something.. .. how about ".. reminded him of the primary jet cover atop his Weber DCOE.." or ".. reminded him of the air corrector jet on is Weber DHSA... " Did that help?? ;-0 Lester On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > True, true, and I DO have that manual > > On Jan 9, 2008 2:20 PM, wrote: > >> Unless it's the Haynes Weber carb shop manual ISBN 1 85010 020 9 >> >> Daniel1312 >> >> n a message dated 09/01/2008 19:57:51 GMT Standard Time, >> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: >> >> And they don't cover DCOE's in the Haynes shop manual... From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 9 14:05:40 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:05:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] blue engines Message-ID: <000801c85303$63fd4890$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I painted my 1275 engine Ford blue in a previous iteration. Looked bad. Too much like a toy. This time around I painted it black. Since then, I haven't seen a single oil leak. I didn't say I didn't have one, just that I haven't seen one. Now with the EFI project, I replaced a 1.75" SU with a Ford throttle body. Back to the blue? Glen From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 14:06:03 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:06:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Good engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910801091306t3cbb1333qf2e0d3cf14b053e2@mail.gmail.com> That manual also covers SU carbs quite nicely. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 9 15:57:02 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:57:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [Healeys] Perry Mason and the Healey Message-ID: <025801c85312$f352dd70$6401a8c0@actualshop> >From a Big Healey List!! If you are interested in Healeys in film, you may wish to visit the following website. If you have a finding not listed, then why not add it ? Enjoy!! Austin Healey: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model Healey : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Healey&model Austin : http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin&model --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada And 1312, do just a search for Austin !! Austin Ambridges glore!!! ENJOY!!!! Ed From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jan 9 16:23:13 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:23:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carpet pieces Message-ID: <69cq7p$2bgbmt@email.mtu.edu> A while back I asked the list where some carpet pieces are used from pieces that came in a set. I described them as follows: "Two are left/right pieces, roughly triangular, with one leg being 2-3/4" and the other 3-1/2". Instead of a straight line for the hypotenuse, they are connected with an arc." I think I found where they are suppose to be used. Check my photos (below) if interested. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite Midland, MI http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 9 16:38:11 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:38:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Question du jour..rant Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> Today's best question... "If I buy winter wiper blades, do I have to change them in the summer?" Thanks for listening... Peter C. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 9 17:06:13 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:06:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Dirty Jobs In-Reply-To: <657C38FD105A49A3B321276610FF1DEF@Home> Message-ID: <561687.46117.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Long Island, NY What exit? I grew up(?) in Commack, Exit 52, 43 off the Northern State. Great place to be from. Ron Somewherin, IL ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 9 17:31:12 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:31:12 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Magazines Message-ID: Anyone ever buy magazine subscriptions on Ebay? Someone on one of the lists suggested it and I bought several in November, but have still not received any magazines. I sent emails to the sellers today, but haven't heard anything. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 17:35:29 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:35:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question du jour..rant In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <47856851.5030102@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Today's best question... "If I buy winter wiper blades, do I have to > change them in the summer?" Only if you get them from Pep Boys because they will not last til summer. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 9 17:51:35 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:51:35 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ample busom.. Message-ID: In a message dated 1/9/2008 5:07:17 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > Can you translate that for a guy with a Sprite on a 45DCOE weber? > ED No, these things are only aplicable to MG owners Actually the original was for Stombergs on a Triumph...I re-wrote it for MGs...and sent Daniel a variation for his Sprite. We'll see if he uses it on his sig line. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 9 17:53:03 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:53:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question du jour..rant In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> Message-ID: Change them into what? -----Original Message----- From: Peter C Today's best question... "If I buy winter wiper blades, do I have to change them in the summer?" Thanks for listening... Peter C. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 9 17:53:54 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:53:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Ebay Magazines References: Message-ID: <037401c85323$4719c0d0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: [Mgs] Ebay Magazines Anyone ever buy magazine subscriptions on Ebay? Someone on one of the lists suggested it and I bought several in November, but have still not received any magazines. I sent emails to the sellers today, but haven't heard anything. Regards, Robert B. Houston ====================================== Well, forget it, I'm not giving you your money back. Anonymous From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 9 17:55:07 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:55:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Question du jour..rant References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080109173619.036df798@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <037b01c85323$72573de0$6401a8c0@Larry> You're killing us here, Peter. What's the answer? Name withheld just to piss Ed off. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:38 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Question du jour..rant Today's best question... "If I buy winter wiper blades, do I have to change them in the summer?" Thanks for listening... Peter C. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 19:18:57 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:18:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone care to host photos? Message-ID: I got the Curto carbs back today. They look clean, servicable, and I can tell more, once I get the engine going. If anyone is willing to host some photos, I'll send some, so that others can see what they look like before they lay out almost $400. For those building a "hot rod" engine, these carbs are NOT shiny and purty. My opinion is, you spend that kind of money on an escort, not that I ever have, (shut the F up ED!!) she better be damn nice looking, not just "clean and servicable". I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would love to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look correct. If you need carbs redone, just be aware, I send mine off October 21st, and they came back January 9th. Your milage may vary, as I did have two holidays thrown into the rebuild process. If no one offers to host, I'll put them up on myspace. I know you have to start the free membership to view them there, and most of you don't want to mess with that, that is why I am sending this out. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lists at woozy.com Wed Jan 9 20:10:28 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:10:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Lights vs. Fog Lights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47858CA4.7050009@woozy.com> I'm thinking of getting one of them shiny chrome badge bars for my Midget and putting a set of lights on it. The usual suspects sell driving lights and fog lights to install on the bar. Is anyone using either one of these? Any recommendations either way? Here is the Mo$$ page for reference: Also, any tips on wiring these? Drove the Midget to work today. It certainly would be nice to have some more light when driving home in the dark, especially with all the deer around here. Thanks, Robert From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 20:16:20 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:16:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Message-ID: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire sizes. Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 9 21:24:29 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:24:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question Message-ID: <007901c85340$b18ed780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> My '73 Midget is rapidly approaching the painting stage (actually, the underside is primed, 3M Body Schutzed, and ready for me to apply color tomorrow), and I've been thinking about some of the multitude of small and not-so-small items which will need to be taken care of, to finish the restoration. One of my wife's pet peeves with old cars, on long trips in summer weather (the trip to Lake of the Ozarks, to be precise) is vinyl seats. Does anyone know of any upholstery, for a '73 Midget, that features a cloth insert like those found on B-GTs of the same vintage? I haven't checked with any suppliers, yet, as I was hoping one of you folks might be able to save me some search time. I guess we could just use the "sheeps-peltz" seat covers that she bought for our '72, when we took our last multi-day, 2000 mi. Midget trip (1984), but I just don't like the look of those things. Thanks. Bud Osbourne From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jan 9 20:33:27 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:33:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> References: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Message-ID: 175 or 155 is the tread width in mm (I think). the 80 or 70 is the profile. It is defined as 80% or 70% of width. So a 155/80 is 155 mm wide at the edge of the tread and the sidewall is 124mm (155mm x 80%). the 175/70 is 175mm wide at the tread and the sidewall is 122.5mm high (175mm x 70%). Sidewall is the distance from the tread to the bead on the wheel. So the 175/70 is wider and shorter. The numbers you have below does not include the width, but the sidewall and diameter numbers are correct. Larry On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile > > 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 > 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 > > This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire sizes. > Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. > But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. > http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jan 9 20:36:27 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:36:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> References: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <68vr7k$29ge0o@email.mtu.edu> Looks correct. Works like this. Tire width times the aspect ratio divided by 25.4 (to convert to inches) = the sidewall dimension in inches. So.... 175 * .7 / 25.4 = 4.82 inches. Or the sidewall height is 70% (or 80%, the number after the / in the tire size) of the tread width. At 10:16 PM 1/9/2008, you wrote: >Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile > >155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 >175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Wed Jan 9 20:43:03 2008 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:43:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Message-ID: <20080109.224303.3056.2.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Frank, 175s are wider than 155s because that dimension is the widest part of the tire in millimeters. The 70 or 80 is the aspect ratio, which is the height above the bead as a percentage of the width, so the height of a 155/80 would be 155x0.8=124mm or 4.88 inches as you listed. The same goes for the 175/70 which is 175x0.7=122.5 mm or 4.82 inches. But the width of the 155 is 6.10 inches while the 175 is 6.90 inches. You can find a full description of the info on a tire here: http://www.goodyeartires.com/kyt/readingATire/ Mike Myers On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:16:20 -0500 Frank Clarici writes: > Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile > > 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 > 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 > > This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire > sizes. > Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. > But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. > http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 9 21:49:18 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:49:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Lights vs. Fog Lights In-Reply-To: <47858CA4.7050009@woozy.com> Message-ID: <007a01c85344$28d3a660$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Not sure I'd want to mount them on a badge bar.....they need to be mounted pretty solidly, to keep vibration to a minimum (otherwise, the "vibrating" light beam will drive you nuts). I had a pair of Cibie' 45s mounted directly to an early ('64, I think) bumper, years ago on my '72. I wired them independently from the headlight circuit (which is illegal, in PA, where I live), controlled with a pull type switch that I mounted on the radio housing console. Worked very nicely, until that stupid deer jumped in front of me, and sat her ass on the Midgets hood. That finished off one driving light (and one hood, one Cibie' conversion headlight and trim ring). I didn't remount them, after I rebuilt the body, since I went back to the correct bumper, and haven't gotten around to fabricating mounting brackets for the driving lights. If/when I do mount some driving lights on a Midget, again, I'll make mounting brackets out of 1/4" x 1" flat bar, fitted between the bumper mounting "studs", and the bumper mounting springs on the bumper. That should hold them pretty still. I still have the wiring & switch in place, on the '72, just in case. One thing I would suggest, before driving lights, is a pair of Cibie' conversion headlights. Aimed correctly, they really make a huge difference, and may be all that you need. Stick with the lower wattage bulbs (45 watt, I think), or make sure you install a relay, to avoid drawing too much current through the dimmer switch. If you use the high wattage bulbs, and no relays, the switch will run to hot, and the rivets that hold the wire contacts will become loose, from the surrounding plastic becoming soft from the heat (don't ask me how I know this :( ). Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:10 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Lights vs. Fog Lights I'm thinking of getting one of them shiny chrome badge bars for my Midget and putting a set of lights on it. The usual suspects sell driving lights and fog lights to install on the bar. Is anyone using either one of these? Any recommendations either way? Here is the Mo$$ page for reference: Also, any tips on wiring these? Drove the Midget to work today. It certainly would be nice to have some more light when driving home in the dark, especially with all the deer around here. Thanks, Robert _______________________________________________ From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jan 9 20:51:55 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:51:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question References: <007901c85340$b18ed780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <000401c8533c$24e74aa0$6401a8c0@personal> Bud, have her sew up some terry cloth covers from new towels, your choice of color even. That's what we all did in Hawaii back when. P.S. They also go in the washer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question > My '73 Midget is rapidly approaching the painting stage (actually, the > underside is primed, 3M Body Schutzed, and ready for me to apply color > tomorrow), and I've been thinking about some of the multitude of small > and not-so-small items which will need to be taken care of, to finish > the restoration. > One of my wife's pet peeves with old cars, on long trips in summer > weather (the trip to Lake of the Ozarks, to be precise) is vinyl seats. > Does anyone know of any upholstery, for a '73 Midget, that features a > cloth insert like those found on B-GTs of the same vintage? I haven't > checked with any suppliers, yet, as I was hoping one of you folks might > be able to save me some search time. > I guess we could just use the "sheeps-peltz" seat covers that she bought > for our '72, when we took our last multi-day, 2000 mi. Midget trip > (1984), but I just don't like the look of those things. > Thanks. > Bud Osbourne > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 > 10:16 AM From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Jan 9 20:52:11 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:52:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires References: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <011001c8533c$2e07b7a0$2f01a8c0@dell1> The tire width is designated by the stated size, i.e., 155 (mm) ='s 6 1/8", 175 ='s 6 7/8"s. So the difference is 3/4"s wider for the 175's over 155's. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Jan 9 21:00:53 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:00:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> References: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Jan 9, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile > > 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 > (Tire width = 6.2") > 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 > (Tire width = 7") > Frank, These are the widths (in red above) taken from the specs on www.tirerack.com Go to their web site and choose "search by tire size", then click on "Specs" for the tire of your choice. The specs will show tread width and section width. Kevin V. From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 9 21:06:51 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:06:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Ebay Magazines Message-ID: Be nice Any Mouse, or I'll send another Hillary joke out... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 21:04:45 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question In-Reply-To: <007901c85340$b18ed780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <007901c85340$b18ed780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <4785995D.7050105@comcast.net> Bud Check out an upholstry shop. My son had cloth inserts put in vinyl seats on one of his projects. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 9 21:11:24 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:11:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Ebay Magazines References: Message-ID: <041c01c8533e$de125400$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: RampantNM at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; midgetsprite at yahoo.com ; mgs at autox.team.net ; MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Ebay Magazines Be nice Any Mouse, or I'll send another Hillary joke out... Regards, Robert B. Houston ========================= You still aren't getting your money back. I spent it on beer. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 9 21:17:54 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:17:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] extra lights Message-ID: In a message dated 1/9/2008 9:09:07 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Here is the Mo$$ page for reference: Also, any tips on wiring these? Drove the Midget to work today. It certainly would be nice to have some more light when driving home in the dark, especially with all the deer around here. I think Ed K sells some and will have an opinion on the best way to wire them. He's probably already emailed you if he's conscious. Got your deer whistles mounted? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From davriker at nwi.net Wed Jan 9 21:58:02 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 20:58:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Locations References: <43840a7e0801091036q3869e034v8e044589e5ba4f42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00eb01c85345$61c61740$6400a8c0@dave> Who is the administrator of the spridgets frapper site? I have moved, and I tried to log in, but frapper said I wasn't a member. If I'm not a member, how'd I post my picture, cause it is on there, at my old address..... David Riker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Michael Rowe" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Locations > Michael, > > There is a Frappr map for midget & sprite people at: > > http://www.Frappr.com/midgetspriteowners > > Not everyone is on it of course, but everyone *could* be.... ;-) > > You can add yourself and I'd encourage everyone to get on the map. I've > used these maps with other groups I'm involved with and they really do > help > a lot! > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 9 22:12:16 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 23:12:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source now with pictures? In-Reply-To: <189B4BC0-607E-44FF-97F7-477D61C15064@comcast.net> References: <3182250.1199727797648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <189B4BC0-607E-44FF-97F7-477D61C15064@comcast.net> Message-ID: <42E501FA-2E2B-4AFA-B5E3-0B3D24ACDFE3@comcast.net> I just posted pics of the pistons and rods as well as the block itself. Look under Lester's Bayou Bugeye folder. The head has been ported from what I can see. Anything you folks can tell me about the pistons? Are they something special or plain Jane? Thanks all, Lestser On Jan 7, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Ewing Lester wrote: > Money.. I have a 948 engine in boxes here.. pistons are 65mm, some > head work has been done as well as some rod work.. I'm sorely > tempted to just get a new set of pistons (I'm missing one) hone this > puppy and put it together. Only problem that I can find is that one > of the valve seats dropped out.. > > Lester > > On Jan 7, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > > > Hi Lester, > > > > I have found many sets of AE Hepolites on ebay. You may look there. > > > > Here is a performance upgrade for ya . . . Why are you wasting your > > money and time on a slow engine when you can find pistons easier, > > alot more HP and torque if you want a Spritely engine? > > > > Mike C > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Ewing Lester > >> Sent: Jan 7, 2008 10:32 AM > >> To: Spridgets net , Bugeye > >> > >> Subject: [Spridgets] Piston source? > >> > >> Hello all, in preparation of my upcoming engine build I wanted to > get > >> the groups notes on piston suppliers. > >> > >> For background, this will be a 948, I am leaning towards a > >> performance upgrade, with a little head porting, mild street cam, > >> maybe a little Judson for fun.. at present the bore is at 65mm > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Lester > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > PeoplePC Online > > A better way to Internet > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you want to unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please > send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > MARKETPLACE > Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an > AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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He'll also be happy to sell either to you. ;-) Tell him I sent you. www.autosportgallery.com Ed in NC (Ed Conen) p.s. A few local Spridgeteers are planning to get together tomorrow evening (Thursday) at 2nd City Grill for food and BS.. er.. 'chat'. :-) 2nd City Grill is in Lake Boone Shopping Center on Lake Boone Trail. That's the first exit North of I-40 off the 440 Beltline in Raleigh. It's at about 6:30pm, but I need to recheck to be sure exactly. e From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 23:19:30 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:19:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801092219q3d33a9b9l584774f47d60a1c6@mail.gmail.com> Bradster, Go get yourself a Flickr account at Yahoo and put them there. Easy and FREE.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Brad Fornal wrote: > > I got the Curto carbs back today. They look clean, servicable, and I can > tell more, once I get the engine going. If anyone is willing to host some > photos, I'll send some, so that others can see what they look like before > they lay out almost $400. > For those building a "hot rod" engine, these carbs are NOT shiny and > purty. > My opinion is, you spend that kind of money on an escort, not that I ever > have, (shut the F up ED!!) she better be damn nice looking, not just > "clean > and servicable". > I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. > Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old > enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if > they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would > love > to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look > correct. > If you need carbs redone, just be aware, I send mine off October 21st, and > they came back January 9th. Your milage may vary, as I did have two > holidays > thrown into the rebuild process. > > If no one offers to host, I'll put them up on myspace. I know you have to > start the free membership to view them there, and most of you don't want > to > mess with that, that is why I am sending this out. > > Brad > . > > __,_._,___ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 04:05:43 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:05:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801092219q3d33a9b9l584774f47d60a1c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801092219q3d33a9b9l584774f47d60a1c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Charlie Shelden was kind enough to host these photos www.ssmyc.org/carb.html Look at the screws for the bells and the bells themselves All comments appreciated On Jan 10, 2008 12:19 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: Bradster, Go get yourself a Flickr account at Yahoo and put them there. Easy and FREE.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Brad Fornal < tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote: > > I got the Curto carbs back today. They look clean, servicable, and I can > tell more, once I get the engine going. If anyone is willing to host some > photos, I'll send some, so that others can see what they look like before > they lay out almost $400. > For those building a "hot rod" engine, these carbs are NOT shiny and > purty. > My opinion is, you spend that kind of money on an escort, not that I ever > have, (shut the F up ED!!) she better be damn nice looking, not just > "clean > and servicable". > I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. > Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old > enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if > they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would > love > to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look > correct. > If you need carbs redone, just be aware, I send mine off October 21st, and > they came back January 9th. Your milage may vary, as I did have two > holidays > thrown into the rebuild process. > > If no one offers to host, I'll put them up on myspace. I know you have to > start the free membership to view them there, and most of you don't want > to > mess with that, that is why I am sending this out. > > Brad > . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com mailto: midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 10 04:07:19 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:07:19 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <47858E04.20201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002c01c85378$f839d620$0501a8c0@MAIN> Another angle on this is that the taller sidewall tyres - that is the 80 aspect ration tyres - will deform more on cornering and will also generally have a greater rolling resistance. This reduces acceleration, increases fuel consumption and gives poorer handling on twisty roads. Generally all bad points. They do, however give a slightly softer ride. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: 10 January 2008 03:16 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire sizes. Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16 From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jan 10 04:42:39 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:42:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Message-ID: <05ff01c8537d$e7191fe0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Greater rolling resistance? I thought a skinny tire, with a small aspect ratio, would have less rolling resistance. Why would this be an incorrect thought? Agree with you on cornering and poor handling of 80 series tires. All other things being equal, skinnier tires are better in snow as well, as they tent to track straighter and not slip sideways as much. Just look at the width of the tires on WRC cars in the snow stages. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Guy Weller [guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 1/10/2008 6:11:19 AM To: spritenut at comcast.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Another angle on this is that the taller sidewall tyres - that is the 80 aspect ration tyres - will deform more on cornering and will also generally have a greater rolling resistance. This reduces acceleration, increases fuel consumption and gives poorer handling on twisty roads. Generally all bad points. They do, however give a slightly softer ride. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: 10 January 2008 03:16 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire sizes. Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16 From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 10 04:58:35 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:58:35 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <05ff01c8537d$e7191fe0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <000e01c85380$2161b570$0401a8c0@Laptop> Chris, You are correct about tread width; wider does have more rolling resistance. But I was only talking of the aspect, or tyre wall height, not the width. I made no mention of the tyre width. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Chris King [mailto:cbking at alum.rpi.edu] Sent: 10 January 2008 11:43 To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Cc: spritenut at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Greater rolling resistance? I thought a skinny tire, with a small aspect ratio, would have less rolling resistance. Why would this be an incorrect thought? Agree with you on cornering and poor handling of 80 series tires. All other things being equal, skinnier tires are better in snow as well, as they tent to track straighter and not slip sideways as much. Just look at the width of the tires on WRC cars in the snow stages. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Guy Weller [guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 1/10/2008 6:11:19 AM To: spritenut at comcast.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Another angle on this is that the taller sidewall tyres - that is the 80 aspect ration tyres - will deform more on cornering and will also generally have a greater rolling resistance. This reduces acceleration, increases fuel consumption and gives poorer handling on twisty roads. Generally all bad points. They do, however give a slightly softer ride. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: 10 January 2008 03:16 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Specification Sidewall Radius Diameter Circumference Revs/Mile 155/80-13 4.9in 11.4in 22.8in 71.5in 886 175/70-13 4.8in 11.3in 22.6in 71.1in 891 This is from a chart/calculator a lister sent me to check tire sizes. Seems to me the 175/70s are a tad thinner and shorter than 155s. But I do have 175s on the 58 and they sure look wider than 155s. http://www.miata.net/cgi-bin/tirescgi -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 08/01/2008 13:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 09:17:23 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:17:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <478642d3.0f0e240a.6d78.ffffd488SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <478642d3.0f0e240a.6d78.ffffd488SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: I'm planning on getting the engine on my stand, and running it in Sunday. Now that the general consensus is that the matte finish is correct, I'll see how they work. On Jan 10, 2008 10:06 AM, David Ramsey wrote: > In the first place those are not H1 carbs so they never came from the > factory on a bug-i. You are kind of in a hard place because the factory > finish wasn't polished and they weren't beat out with a hammer like yours. > I'm not sure what you expected as you can get new SU's for about what you > paid to have those rebuilt. I have a set of new HS2's that I bought on > sale > for $307 last year from M**S including shipping, never on a car and they > do > look new, no guess on if they will work, the paperwork blames everything > but > the carbs if they flood when installed. That kind of scares me what with > them being still in the box and "they know they will flood" (guess they > don't know how to adjust the float level). Let's just hope yours work > better > than they look. > Crash > > > I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as > possible. > > Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not > old > > enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know > if > > they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would > > love > > to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look > > correct. > > Brad > > > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 10 07:30:42 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:30:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Nano car - Not LBC Message-ID: What? No convertible!? http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/01/10/nano-tata.html From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 10 07:47:07 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:47:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires References: <000e01c85380$2161b570$0401a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <047401c85397$acd95330$6401a8c0@Larry> Guy, why would a taller aspect ratio produce more rolling resistance? Larry Daniels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Chris King'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Chris, You are correct about tread width; wider does have more rolling resistance. But I was only talking of the aspect, or tyre wall height, not the width. I made no mention of the tyre width. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Chris King [mailto:cbking at alum.rpi.edu] Sent: 10 January 2008 11:43 To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Cc: spritenut at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Greater rolling resistance? I thought a skinny tire, with a small aspect ratio, would have less rolling resistance. Why would this be an incorrect thought? Agree with you on cornering and poor handling of 80 series tires. All other things being equal, skinnier tires are better in snow as well, as they tent to track straighter and not slip sideways as much. Just look at the width of the tires on WRC cars in the snow stages. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Guy Weller [guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 1/10/2008 6:11:19 AM To: spritenut at comcast.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Another angle on this is that the taller sidewall tyres - that is the 80 aspect ration tyres - will deform more on cornering and will also generally have a greater rolling resistance. This reduces acceleration, increases fuel consumption and gives poorer handling on twisty roads. Generally all bad points. They do, however give a slightly softer ride. Guy From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 10 09:06:46 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:06:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080110163651.20D32187AD8@autox.team.net> In the first place those are not H1 carbs so they never came from the factory on a bug-i. You are kind of in a hard place because the factory finish wasn't polished and they weren't beat out with a hammer like yours. I'm not sure what you expected as you can get new SU's for about what you paid to have those rebuilt. I have a set of new HS2's that I bought on sale for $307 last year from M**S including shipping, never on a car and they do look new, no guess on if they will work, the paperwork blames everything but the carbs if they flood when installed. That kind of scares me what with them being still in the box and "they know they will flood" (guess they don't know how to adjust the float level). Let's just hope yours work better than they look. Crash > I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. > Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old > enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if > they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would > love > to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look > correct. > Brad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 07:42:41 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:42:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <00dc01c85395$f5b4f9d0$e11eed70$@com> References: <20080110072955.97231a3d9bcbe86637414a5f2b8ede3b.f21b291616.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <00dc01c85395$f5b4f9d0$e11eed70$@com> Message-ID: I want correct, and ONLY correct. I am starting to see why the smog crap was originally removed, as it will be in the way when I do have to work on it, but that is what I want. Mike answered my question to a tee!! WST, I know you are old, and you were working on BN1's when they were first made, so I respect your opinion. I'm just sorry it was so much trouble trying to get my question phrased correctly. Brad On Jan 10, 2008 8:34 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Something else to consider here. > > > > Brad, do you want correct, or do you want shiny/polished? If you're > striving > for total originality, then polished is not the look you want. > > > > (I'm not, never have been, never want to be a "concours" kind of guy.) > > > > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] > On > Behalf Of ray at raysmg.com > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:30 AM > To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? > > > > Hap Waldrop at ACME Speed Shop in Greenville, SC is currently building a > 1275 for me; he will also be rebuilding a pair of SUs for it and I > requested that they be polished. A sample of his work can be seen at > http://www.acmespeedshop.com/services.html , click on the "MGB rebuilt > carbs' for a larger view. > > Ray > > Ray McCaleb > ray at raysmg.com > http://www.raysmg.com > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From stevenm at optonline.net Thu Jan 10 08:09:26 2008 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:09:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Message-ID: <150901c8539a$ca6cb510$6801a8c0@17053> Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from there.... http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. Steve www.1978mgmidget.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 10 09:56:57 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:56:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nano car - Not LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080110105541.039101d8@nosimport.com> I suspect they'll make an SUV, called the Bodacious? ----- At 08:30 AM 1/10/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >What? No convertible!? >http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/01/10/nano-tata.html From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 10 10:22:19 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:22:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is what Joe claims to do on his website. Do you believe all of this was done to your carbs? BTW, yours look cleaner than mine, and your screw heads aren't as chewed up. > cleaning with biodegradable soap, hand cleaning, and plastic media blasting > plus acid dipping if needed to even color. From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jan 10 10:24:58 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:24:58 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ample busom.. Message-ID: SUs more perky, Strombergs more fuller cup? In a message dated 10/01/2008 00:55:38 GMT Standard Time, RampantNM at aol.com writes: Actually the original was for Stombergs From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jan 10 10:32:00 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:32:00 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Lights vs. Fog Lights Message-ID: Quartz Halogen headlamps 160w main (each) 130W dipped (each) haven't found a need for additional lamps. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/01/2008 03:11:15 GMT Standard Time, lists at woozy.com writes: Drove the Midget to work today. It certainly would be nice to have some more light when driving home in the dark, especially with all the deer around here. Thanks, Robert From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 10 07:53:24 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:53:24 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires In-Reply-To: <047401c85397$acd95330$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <004801c85398$8dcc25c0$0401a8c0@Laptop> Hi Larry, Because there is more flexing of the side walls. You get a larger flat bit on the bottom and more rolling resistance. One can counteract this by increased tyre pressures, but the pressure needs to go up quite a lot to compensate for the taller side walls. But it is all just a matter of degree and compromise. And personal preference! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: 10 January 2008 14:47 To: Guy Weller Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Guy, why would a taller aspect ratio produce more rolling resistance? Larry Daniels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Chris King'" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Chris, You are correct about tread width; wider does have more rolling resistance. But I was only talking of the aspect, or tyre wall height, not the width. I made no mention of the tyre width. Guy -----Original Message----- From: Chris King [mailto:cbking at alum.rpi.edu] Sent: 10 January 2008 11:43 To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Cc: spritenut at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Greater rolling resistance? I thought a skinny tire, with a small aspect ratio, would have less rolling resistance. Why would this be an incorrect thought? Agree with you on cornering and poor handling of 80 series tires. All other things being equal, skinnier tires are better in snow as well, as they tent to track straighter and not slip sideways as much. Just look at the width of the tires on WRC cars in the snow stages. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Guy Weller [guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 1/10/2008 6:11:19 AM To: spritenut at comcast.net;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No real difference in tires Another angle on this is that the taller sidewall tyres - that is the 80 aspect ration tyres - will deform more on cornering and will also generally have a greater rolling resistance. This reduces acceleration, increases fuel consumption and gives poorer handling on twisty roads. Generally all bad points. They do, however give a slightly softer ride. Guy No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 09/01/2008 10:16 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 10 10:57:16 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:57:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <150901c8539a$ca6cb510$6801a8c0@17053> Message-ID: <008401c853b2$3cbb4890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA > (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. > Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from > there.... > http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 > > Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. We should all be there! Did you notice in the description that all 10 are "1961 Bugeyes"? Historical vehicles, to be sure. Anon From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 10 07:39:37 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:39:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: <011020081418.22018.4786291C0005AD320000560222230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF0A9B079D9F9CCD05B3@att.net> Message-ID: <00ef01c85396$a298ecb0$e7cac610$@com> Brad, Not sure why you've characterized my comments as a "battle of opinions". I find that slightly offensive. Makes me regret taking the time and giving a shit enough to try to help you. I've separated my opinions from facts, and asked at least as many questions of you as I've answered. WST From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:33 AM To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? THANK YOU!! THIS is the answer I was looking for, not a battle of opinions with WST. I have NO opinion, as ( I repeat this again) I'M NOT OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE SEEN SHOWROOM NEW!! YOU answered my question!! They were not shiny from the factory, and mine are not shiny, so then Joe did EXACTLY what I wanted, I just didn't know it. Honestly, I thought they would have been a bit prettier, but these cars were built for functionality, not car shows. I am wanting to put this car back right, not some "gleaming trailer queen", that is so often seen as "factory original" at shows. Again, I am not trying to trash Joe's quality of work, just making sure they look like they did when the car was new. Real genuine new, not the "Turner Colorized" version of new. Thank you again, Mike!! On Jan 10, 2008 8:18 AM, > wrote: From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 10 07:34:48 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:34:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <20080110072955.97231a3d9bcbe86637414a5f2b8ede3b.f21b291616.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20080110072955.97231a3d9bcbe86637414a5f2b8ede3b.f21b291616.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <00dc01c85395$f5b4f9d0$e11eed70$@com> Something else to consider here. Brad, do you want correct, or do you want shiny/polished? If you're striving for total originality, then polished is not the look you want. (I'm not, never have been, never want to be a "concours" kind of guy.) From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ray at raysmg.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:30 AM To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? Hap Waldrop at ACME Speed Shop in Greenville, SC is currently building a 1275 for me; he will also be rebuilding a pair of SUs for it and I requested that they be polished. A sample of his work can be seen at http://www.acmespeedshop.com/services.html , click on the "MGB rebuilt carbs' for a larger view. Ray Ray McCaleb ray at raysmg.com http://www.raysmg.com From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 10 07:05:14 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:05:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM] Re: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0801092219q3d33a9b9l584774f47d60a1c6@mail.gmail.com> <008d01c85386$fcdbb780$f6932680$@com> <00b101c8538c$69b16760$3d143620$@com> Message-ID: <00c401c85391$d48db840$7da928c0$@com> Brad, If youbre not happy with what you got, it wouldnbt be the first time in the bbuy/sellb process that expectations were not properly set, whether it be as the buyer or the seller. My expectation is if you want it to look new, buy new. There are very few processes that turn back time, and your carbs (donbt remember what year car you have) have to be 30 to 50 years old. If your carbs were mine, I would say they met my expectations. I know Billy Zoom had an issue with how his carbs lookedb& so, youbre not alone. But, I think Curto has thousands of satisfied customers over the years, so as I said, I think itbs a situation where expectations were not properly set. Have you spoken with him? WST From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:49 AM To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? I had included photos of the engine, at that point, and called to explain the look I was trying to achieve. The look I am going for, is a "like new, showroom" engine, and I clearly stated that. This engine is complete with all the smog equipment, all painted and pretty, new stickers for all the accoutrement's. AGAIN, I don't know if this is how they looked NEW, that is why I am asking. Plus, after others have said what they have, about the rebuilds, this gives others the chance to see what the carbs look like, once they are done. On Jan 10, 2008 7:26 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson > wrote: > Brad, From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 10 05:47:32 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:47:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0801092219q3d33a9b9l584774f47d60a1c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008d01c85386$fcdbb780$f6932680$@com> Brad, Ibm not sure what the issue is. I wouldnbt expect 40+ year old carbs to come back looking new when brebuiltb. They werenbt bremanufacturedb. I think they look fine. Ibve taken the bells and placed them in a tumbler I have that uses corn cob media, and let them run for a few hoursb& they end up looking prettier without looking polished like some sort of street tuner junk. Do they work well? WST From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:06 AM To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? Charlie Shelden was kind enough to host these photos www.ssmyc.org/carb.html Look at the screws for the bells and the bells themselves All comments appreciated On Jan 10, 2008 12:19 AM, Jim Johnson > wrote: Bradster, Go get yourself a Flickr account at Yahoo and put them there. Easy and FREE.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/9/08, Brad Fornal < tequila.brad at gmail.com > wrote: > > I got the Curto carbs back today. They look clean, servicable, and I can > tell more, once I get the engine going. If anyone is willing to host some > photos, I'll send some, so that others can see what they look like before > they lay out almost $400. > For those building a "hot rod" engine, these carbs are NOT shiny and > purty. > My opinion is, you spend that kind of money on an escort, not that I ever > have, (shut the F up ED!!) she better be damn nice looking, not just > "clean > and servicable". > I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. > Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old > enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if > they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would > love > to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look > correct. > If you need carbs redone, just be aware, I send mine off October 21st, and > they came back January 9th. Your milage may vary, as I did have two > holidays > thrown into the rebuild process. > > If no one offers to host, I'll put them up on myspace. I know you have to > start the free membership to view them there, and most of you don't want > to > mess with that, that is why I am sending this out. > > Brad > . From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 11:13:35 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:13:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many folks are thinking that I have a problem with my carbs. I just wanted to know what the original patina was, polish, or matte. I didn't know, I now know that the matte finish that I have, is what I was wanting. I do NOT want a polished carb, if it was not that way on the showroom floor. Also, I am not being this anal, because I am going concours. I am being this anal, because I am an ass, and I just want the engine to be right. The early 68, was an entity unto itself, for the 6 months that the engine had the "flying saucer" AND the smog pump. It has been an interesting puzzle, putting it all together. I know that some parts don't have the correct date stamp on them, and I will correct that as I can garner the bits. But again, it is for ME, not for some judge that doesn't know me, or I care to meet. Under the bonnet won't be pristine either, as the car is now red, and it was originally white. I am not going to paint under the bonnet, but I will remove the 40 years of oil that have accumulated. I am not here to try and knock Joe's work. Again, I was not certain of the patina, and I wanted someone other than the shop that did them, to offer up their observations. Try going to a swap meet, and asking "Is that valve cover for a 67 Sprite?" You KNOW that guy wants to sell it, so more often than not, you'll get a resounding YES!!! So I wanted to get opinions and memories on the patina. I thank all of you that have responded, and I am satisfied that Joe did exactly what I was wanting. I did think that they would have been prettier, I'd be lying if I didn't say this. But these cars were built to drive, not to show. The polished carbs must have come along later, with such additions as a W E S L A K E valve cover. Thanks to all Brad On Jan 10, 2008 11:22 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > This is what Joe claims to do on his website. Do you believe all of this > was > done to your carbs? BTW, yours look cleaner than mine, and your screw > heads > aren't as chewed up. > > cleaning with biodegradable soap, hand cleaning, and plastic media > blasting > > plus acid dipping if needed to even color. > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 10 11:43:09 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:43:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Message-ID: <10806059.1199990589325.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> They all pretty much look like decent parts cars. Too much of that Northeast rust thing going on. The one with the supercharger looks to be toast! Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: David Lieb >Sent: Jan 10, 2008 12:57 PM >To: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > >> Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA >> (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. >> Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from >> there.... >> http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 >> >> Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. > >We should all be there! Did you notice in the description that all 10 are >"1961 Bugeyes"? Historical vehicles, to be sure. >Anon ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jan 10 11:45:05 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:45:05 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? Message-ID: To be honest Brad they look like brand new SUs. I'd have expected more of a polished dashpot on reconditioned carbs. Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/01/2008 16:25:33 GMT Standard Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: I'm not sure what you expected as you can get new SU's for about what you > paid to have those rebuilt From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 11:51:12 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:51:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since I have never seen such, that I why I asked. Thank you Daniel, should I ever get enough funds to add a W E S L A K E cover, I'll have to polish them On Jan 10, 2008 12:45 PM, wrote: > To be honest Brad they look like brand new SUs. I'd have expected more > of a polished dashpot on reconditioned carbs. > > Daniel1312 > > In a message dated 10/01/2008 16:25:33 GMT Standard Time, > tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > > I'm not sure what you expected as you can get new SU's for about what you > > paid to have those rebuilt > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Daniel1312 at aol.com Thu Jan 10 11:52:26 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:52:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? Message-ID: The new SUs I've seen in scrap yards have that scoring on the dashpot as if they have been extruded or something. When I was a kit you didn't used to see that kind of scoring on the dashpots. So that's why I think the carbs, or maybe just the dashpots (maybe pistons) are new. The linkages looked to be new also because old linkages would have an old finish to them unless they have been re-coated - yours look to be too shiny. Regards Daniel1312 In a message dated 10/01/2008 18:04:23 GMT Standard Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: They were not shiny from the factory, and mine are not shiny, From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 11:55:58 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:55:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Which one? In-Reply-To: <336060.44693.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <336060.44693.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0BF2CCB2-2249-4625-93EE-18BCE6590491@comcast.net> Ok, what about MOWOG 2A-655-SDF 1 ?? Lester On Jan 9, 2008, at 6:17 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- Daniel1312 at aol.com wrote: > >> What are the cool rods and is there is a definite >> date the rods changed to >> uncool? > > AE(G?)625, I think. They are supposedly rare Cooper S, > but they are everywhere. > > Ron From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 10 12:27:05 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:27:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: W E S L A K E ?? What's that? ;) >From: "Brad Fornal" >To: Daniel1312 at aol.com >CC: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:51:12 -0600 > >Since I have never seen such, that I why I asked. >Thank you Daniel, should I ever get enough funds to add a W E S L A K E >cover, I'll have to polish them > >On Jan 10, 2008 12:45 PM, wrote: > > > To be honest Brad they look like brand new SUs. I'd have expected more > > of a polished dashpot on reconditioned carbs. > > > > Daniel1312 > > > > In a message dated 10/01/2008 16:25:33 GMT Standard Time, > > tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > > > > I'm not sure what you expected as you can get new SU's for about what >you > > > paid to have those rebuilt > > > > > > > > > >-- >www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jan 10 13:12:07 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:12:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14922.164.58.184.10.1199995927.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Brad, I'll chime in, I've cleaned a set up using metal polish and a wheel (pots that is) while I was able to get them pretty flashy a bit more than yours but not by alot mind you. It would be hard to get those gouges and underhood rash removed with our a tumbler. I just left mine and from about 5' they look awsome. I think yours look awsome. The screws a bit buggered but if that is the way you sent them I guess what do you expect? Unless of course there was some agreement that new screws would be installed. Again, they look fine to me and such. I am not sure what all he does for the price you pay, so I can't respond to that. In other words, did he do what he said he would? Based on others they look clean as he said he does and I'm sure he repaired and set them of course. Charlie From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 15:07:04 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <008401c853b2$3cbb4890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <150901c8539a$ca6cb510$6801a8c0@17053> <008401c853b2$3cbb4890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <47869708.208@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >> Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, > We should all be there! I will be there with truck, trailer, and $$. I can always come home with an empty trailer too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jan 10 16:10:08 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:10:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget Message-ID: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> Dateline Pottstown, PA Jan 10, 2008 At 10:35 AM the newest Midget arrived in the Liebel (Kristi & Lambert) household. The new Midget, nicknamed Wynter Dawn, arrived at 10:35 AM. The new arrival came with a few odd sounds and finally with a squel similar to a bad fan belt. The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's Midgets in about 16 years. The delivery vehicle and the new Midget are all fine. As are Dad and Opa. ;-) Larry Proud Opa!! -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 14:51:03 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:51:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <14922.164.58.184.10.1199995927.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> References: <14922.164.58.184.10.1199995927.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: I'm not complaining, I was just unsure of the shiny vs dull, and that has since been established. On Jan 10, 2008 2:12 PM, wrote: > Brad, > I'll chime in, I've cleaned a set up using metal polish and a wheel (pots > that is) while I was able to get them pretty flashy a bit more than yours > but not by alot mind you. It would be hard to get those gouges and > underhood rash removed with our a tumbler. I just left mine and from > about 5' they look awsome. I think yours look awsome. The screws a bit > buggered but if that is the way you sent them I guess what do you expect? > Unless of course there was some agreement that new screws would be > installed. Again, they look fine to me and such. I am not sure what all > he does for the price you pay, so I can't respond to that. > > In other words, did he do what he said he would? Based on others they > look clean as he said he does and I'm sure he repaired and set them of > course. > > Charlie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Jan 10 16:36:50 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:36:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: <14922.164.58.184.10.1199995927.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: <008c01c853e1$adf37620$0da1670a@edgewireless.com> "I'm not complaining, I was just unsure of the shiny vs dull, and that has since been established." Yes, shiny carbs are dull.... Or is it the carbs are shiny and Brad is dull? Or.... Brad is shiny and this freaken' subject is now dull? From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jan 10 16:56:18 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:56:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: <008c01c853e1$adf37620$0da1670a@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: <20080110235620.CRTK16504.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> OK, got an idea- If you want a "do over" I'll gladly swap out my used but untouched for (20) years set with natural patina for yours... Chris Brookfield, WI 66 MKIII http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismanuel -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:37 PM To: 'Brad Fornal'; shelden3 at pldi.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? "I'm not complaining, I was just unsure of the shiny vs dull, and that has since been established." Yes, shiny carbs are dull.... Or is it the carbs are shiny and Brad is dull? Or.... Brad is shiny and this freaken' subject is now dull? From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jan 10 17:08:48 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:08:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? Message-ID: Hey, is this a ribcase lever? http://tinyurl.com/ysaa8a Or, for those who are "tinyURL challenged": eBay item 150203548690 I need one. The lever that came with my p-n-p ribcase has that thick vibration damper on it and won't look right in FROG AYE. Any spridgeteers got one you want to dispose of reasonably? Should I snipe this one? Hal From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Jan 10 17:12:32 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:12:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Auction Message-ID: In a message dated 1/10/2008 1:23:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from there.... http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. Hey Frank, is that a Healey boat?? Item number: 350012271905 Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jan 10 18:18:10 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:18:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question In-Reply-To: <4785995D.7050105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00a901c853ef$d4cf3e60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Sounds like it's going to be the way to go. I've got an excellent upholsterer in mind, who is going to be doing some work for me on my Mk.I restoration, anyway. I'll just throw some Midget seats in my car and drive up to his place next week. Thanks. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:05 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] seat upholstery availability question Bud Check out an upholstry shop. My son had cloth inserts put in vinyl seats on one of his projects. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 10 17:22:59 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:22:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget References: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <05d001c853e8$1fc52130$6401a8c0@Larry> Congratulations, Larry. And Kristi and Lambert, too. The other Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: "net Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget Dateline Pottstown, PA Jan 10, 2008 At 10:35 AM the newest Midget arrived in the Liebel (Kristi & Lambert) household. The new Midget, nicknamed Wynter Dawn, arrived at 10:35 AM. The new arrival came with a few odd sounds and finally with a squel similar to a bad fan belt. The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's Midgets in about 16 years. The delivery vehicle and the new Midget are all fine. As are Dad and Opa. ;-) Larry Proud Opa!! -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Thu Jan 10 17:53:50 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:53:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension question Message-ID: <50472.72.71.216.214.1200012830.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Calling all experts or anyone who know more than me. I've transplanted a disc brake front suspension setup to my Bugeye in progress. My problem is the front left wheel. It tilts significantly outward on the top while the right wheel seems verical while the steering is headed straight ahead. I can't seem to figure out what would make that adjustment or whether I screwed something up with the transplant. The tie rod can be adjusted, but that changes toe-in, not vertical movement. Can anyone help? Thanks Dick Byrne in NH From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jan 10 18:59:40 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <150901c8539a$ca6cb510$6801a8c0@17053> Message-ID: <00ab01c853f5$a0dd26c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> So, any of you Philadelphia area Spridget guys know anything about this lot of Sprites? Anyone planning to go have a look-see? Wrong end of the state for me, but, I could be interested in one of them. Some of that stuff looks like it's been stored in some VERY damp conditions for a very long time, and some of it looks like it may have stayed fairly dry. Intriguing. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Michelsen Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:09 AM To: Midget Group at team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from there.... http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. Steve www.1978mgmidget.com From kevin at valentinephoto.net Thu Jan 10 17:59:20 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:59:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension question In-Reply-To: <50472.72.71.216.214.1200012830.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50472.72.71.216.214.1200012830.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <88068C95-2DA1-4F2C-BDBC-273C57574D6A@valentinephoto.net> Dick, Check the trunion (at the top of the kingpin) to see if you put it on backwards. Kevin V. On Jan 10, 2008, at 7:53 PM, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Calling all experts or anyone who know more than me. > I've transplanted a disc brake front suspension setup to my Bugeye in > progress. My problem is the front left wheel. It tilts significantly > outward on the top while the right wheel seems verical while the > steering > is headed straight ahead. I can't seem to figure out what would > make that > adjustment or whether I screwed something up with the transplant. > The tie > rod can be adjusted, but that changes toe-in, not vertical > movement. Can > anyone help? > Thanks > Dick Byrne in NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevin at valentinephoto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jan 10 19:12:37 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:12:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <10806059.1199990589325.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00ac01c853f7$6fe0f360$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> When original sheet metal keeps getting more and more difficult to obtain, and reproductions are only so-so, it is amazing what some guys will pay for REALLY rusty stuff. Saw a pile of rust scale, at Import Carlisle a few years ago, that bore a very strong resemblance to an XK-120 front clip. Someone snapped that thing right up, and paid over $1000 for it! I mean, the thing looked as much like a giant, rusty spaghetti colander as it did a front end clip. While I agree that the one with the supercharger looks like toast, a lot of those parts will probably end up being salvageable & restorable. Guys native to, and living in California, the Pacific NW, and the desert SW will have a hard time understanding that we in the salt belt view restoration candidates vs. parts cars in a completely different way than you guys do. My old favorite saying that "desperate men do desperate things" really applies, here. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:43 PM To: David Lieb; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction They all pretty much look like decent parts cars. Too much of that Northeast rust thing going on. The one with the supercharger looks to be toast! Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: David Lieb >Sent: Jan 10, 2008 12:57 PM >To: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > >> Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in Hatfield, PA >> (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. >> Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it from >> there.... >> http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 >> >> Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. > >We should all be there! Did you notice in the description that all 10 are >"1961 Bugeyes"? Historical vehicles, to be sure. >Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 18:20:41 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:20:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension question In-Reply-To: <88068C95-2DA1-4F2C-BDBC-273C57574D6A@valentinephoto.net> References: <50472.72.71.216.214.1200012830.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <88068C95-2DA1-4F2C-BDBC-273C57574D6A@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <4786C469.5050303@comcast.net> K. Valentine wrote: > Dick, > > Check the trunion (at the top of the kingpin) to see if you put it on > backwards. Dick, like Kevin said, you have the trunnion on backwards. You don't want to know how many times I did that. Where it bolts to the shock, flip it around. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 18:23:35 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget In-Reply-To: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> References: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <4786C517.5@comcast.net> Hey grandpa, congratulations. I didn't even know they were expectiong, I guess it's been awhile since I saw them. Be sure to pass along the congrats from Diane too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Thu Jan 10 18:30:01 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:30:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension question Message-ID: <50595.72.71.216.214.1200015001.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Thanks to those who replied so far. I don't know what a trunion is, but I'll look it up in my book, find out and change it. This list is great. I'll have many more questions before the Bugeye is back together, but I'll keep on workin on it. Dick B. > Dick, > > Check the upper trunion, it is possible to have it on backwards and cause your problem. Been there done that! > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > 58 "Bugeye" > 66 TR4A > S2-27 > WB0NOO > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:53 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension question > > > > Calling all experts or anyone who know more than me. > I've transplanted a disc brake front suspension setup to my Bugeye in progress. My problem is the front left wheel. It tilts significantly outward on the top while the right wheel seems verical while the steering is headed straight ahead. I can't seem to figure out what would make that adjustment or whether I screwed something up with the transplant. The tie rod can be adjusted, but that changes toe-in, not vertical movement. Can anyone help? > Thanks > Dick Byrne in NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark at nashvilletn.org > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 10 18:33:09 2008 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:33:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <00ac01c853f7$6fe0f360$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <006a01c853f1$ecd6c120$a7ecf804@D1PWFG61> Hi Bud, I hope that someone does save them. However, there are so many more sound starting points than these rust buckets. I've learned that it is always better to save up for a bit longer and invest with one that is much less rusty. Unless, of course, you're related to Guido. Then it is a weekend restoration. I guess that my viewpoint is to find the creampuff in someones garage that is for sale verses the rust bucket out in the field that was left for dead about 35 years ago. Restorers in England would find these as prime restoration material also. I understand the desperation thing also, though. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Mike/Donna Carpenter'" ; "'David Lieb'" ; "'Spridget List'" Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > When original sheet metal keeps getting more and more difficult to > obtain, and reproductions are only so-so, it is amazing what some guys > will pay for REALLY rusty stuff. Saw a pile of rust scale, at Import > Carlisle a few years ago, that bore a very strong resemblance to an > XK-120 front clip. Someone snapped that thing right up, and paid over > $1000 for it! I mean, the thing looked as much like a giant, rusty > spaghetti colander as it did a front end clip. > While I agree that the one with the supercharger looks like toast, a lot > of those parts will probably end up being salvageable & restorable. > Guys native to, and living in California, the Pacific NW, and the desert > SW will have a hard time understanding that we in the salt belt view > restoration candidates vs. parts cars in a completely different way than > you guys do. My old favorite saying that "desperate men do desperate > things" really applies, here. > Bud Osbourne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Mike/Donna Carpenter > Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:43 PM > To: David Lieb; Spridget List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > > They all pretty much look like decent parts cars. Too much of that > Northeast rust thing going on. > > The one with the supercharger looks to be toast! > > Mike C > > -----Original Message----- >>From: David Lieb >>Sent: Jan 10, 2008 12:57 PM >>To: Spridget List >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction >> >>> Ran across this on ebay - a live auction of about 50 cars in > Hatfield, PA >>> (near Phila), including TEN bugeyes in various states of disrepair. >>> Here's a link to the bugeyes only - you can get to the rest of it > from >>> there.... >>> http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 >>> >>> Hopefully someone can find something worthwhile. >> >>We should all be there! Did you notice in the description that all 10 > are >>"1961 Bugeyes"? Historical vehicles, to be sure. >>Anon From nases at verizon.net Thu Jan 10 18:40:58 2008 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:40:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget In-Reply-To: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> References: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <006901c853f3$04817350$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Congratulations Larry. Wish Mom & Dad well for Jane and me. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 6:10 PM To: net Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget Dateline Pottstown, PA Jan 10, 2008 At 10:35 AM the newest Midget arrived in the Liebel (Kristi & Lambert) household. The new Midget, nicknamed Wynter Dawn, arrived at 10:35 AM. The new arrival came with a few odd sounds and finally with a squel similar to a bad fan belt. The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's Midgets in about 16 years. The delivery vehicle and the new Midget are all fine. As are Dad and Opa. ;-) Larry Proud Opa!! -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 10 19:16:08 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <006a01c853f1$ecd6c120$a7ecf804@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net> Just wait for my blue car to hit Craig's list, and remember to add 26% to your bid for the real price of the auction cars. I do like the mini-moke, maybe cause it is blue and I am a sucker for an Austin in blue. Crash Hi Bud, I hope that someone does save them. However, there are so many more sound starting points than these rust buckets. I've learned that it is always better to save up for a bit longer and invest with one that is much less rusty. Unless, of course, you're related to Guido. Then it is a weekend restoration. I guess that my viewpoint is to find the creampuff in someones garage that is for sale verses the rust bucket out in the field that was left for dead about 35 years ago. Restorers in England would find these as prime restoration material also. I understand the desperation thing also, though. Mike C From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jan 10 19:25:57 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:25:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] "Wrinkle' paint question... Message-ID: <47866335.14793.2624203@dmg.bossig.com> I have a relatively rust free bare 65 dash in the garage, but the surface is badly scored and scratched... If I were to get it down to bare metal, is there any way to put a black wrinkle finish back on?? Or should I just use some black touch-up paint in the damaged areas.... TIA - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jan 10 19:30:25 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:30:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget References: <20A10AB0-142C-4099-99B5-40F7D7360CDD@phillymgclub.com> <05d001c853e8$1fc52130$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <01ec01c853f9$edbfa0e0$53997e4c@HP> Congratulations, Larry. And Kristi and Lambert, too. The REAL Larry From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 19:31:04 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:31:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4786D4E8.6090807@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > Hey, is this a ribcase lever? Yes, it's black, all smoothcases had chrome shifters. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 19:38:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:38:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Wrinkle' paint question... In-Reply-To: <47866335.14793.2624203@dmg.bossig.com> References: <47866335.14793.2624203@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <4786D691.4000709@comcast.net> Krylon wrinkle black works wonders but it has to be down to bare metal, and NO PRIMER. I wait for a sunny day, but paint the dash as per the instructions. 3 heavy coats 10 minutes apart. Do this in a cool place not in the sun. But have the dash on a board so you can put it out in the sun after the 3rd coat. It will wrinkle up like magic in about 15 minutes. Uniform heat is the trick. I did 2 of these dashboards for my 67. Just incase I scratch one putting it in ;) Both came out perfect, and each one wrinkled different. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nases at verizon.net Thu Jan 10 20:01:09 2008 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:01:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: <4786D4E8.6090807@comcast.net> References: <4786D4E8.6090807@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00a701c853fe$38266ca0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> How can I tell the difference between a ribcase and smoothcase shifter if they're both chromed? Also, how were the stock bugeye shifter knobs attached to the lever? I just removed mine and the lever is threaded but the knob was held on with a rubber sleeve and no sign of threads in the knob. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:31 PM To: Hal Faulkner Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? Hal Faulkner wrote: > Hey, is this a ribcase lever? Yes, it's black, all smoothcases had chrome shifters. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 20:05:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:05:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: <00a701c853fe$38266ca0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <4786D4E8.6090807@comcast.net> <00a701c853fe$38266ca0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <4786DCEF.1040502@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > How can I tell the difference between a ribcase and smoothcase shifter if > they're both chromed? One is longer between the big ball and small ball. Not much, hardly noticable but it will not work on the other trans. I forget which is what, Paul A will know, he taught me. > Also, how were the stock bugeye shifter knobs attached to the lever? I just > removed mine and the lever is threaded but the knob was held on with a > rubber sleeve and no sign of threads in the knob. The rod was threaded into the rubber. It sort of closes up when you remove it. And too many ons and offs makes it untightenable too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Jan 10 20:24:47 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:24:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: <4786DCEF.1040502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001301c85401$85eafed0$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> "The distance between the 2 spheres on the bottom of the shifter should be about this amount: Smoothcase 3/8" Ribcase 9/16" Quoted direct from Paul A when I asked the question a while back. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Phil Nase wrote: > How can I tell the difference between a ribcase and smoothcase shifter if > they're both chromed? One is longer between the big ball and small ball. Not much, hardly noticable but it will not work on the other trans. I forget which is what, Paul A will know, he taught me. > Also, how were the stock bugeye shifter knobs attached to the lever? I just > removed mine and the lever is threaded but the knob was held on with a > rubber sleeve and no sign of threads in the knob. The rod was threaded into the rubber. It sort of closes up when you remove it. And too many ons and offs makes it untightenable too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 1:32 PM From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Wed Jan 9 20:33:29 2008 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:33:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dropping the bug-eye gas tank Message-ID: <9C0D2D9A8D73441CBEF5C7737C1FC705@JEPHome> I'm trying to drop the gas tank in the bug-eye, but I'm hung up on the filler tube. The shop manual seems to be for later models, as the bug-eye doesn't have a filler hose, but rather a solid metal tube. Is the tube part of the tank? How do you remove the rubber gasket that fits between the tube and the body? Is there anything else holding the tank in place? Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jan 10 20:47:17 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:47:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dropping the bug-eye gas tank References: <9C0D2D9A8D73441CBEF5C7737C1FC705@JEPHome> Message-ID: <005a01c85404$a9a00ca0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Jim, I just did this a few weeks ago on my long sitting 59. I found mostly there was crud and surface rust holding it. You just have to get it all loose and work it down and at the same time work the fill tube out as well. I konw that isn't much help but that is how I did it. charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1972 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From shelden3 at pldi.net Thu Jan 10 21:10:31 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:10:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dropping the bug-eye gas tank References: <9C0D2D9A8D73441CBEF5C7737C1FC705@JEPHome> <005a01c85404$a9a00ca0$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <00aa01c85407$e85afb00$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Yes, remove the 6 fasteners (nuts i think it was) and the filler tube comes with the tank, most likely the rubber gromet on the body is stuck to the neck...try working it around to loosen it. Good LUCK! Charlie 59 Sprite project > So the tank and filler tube are all one piece, right? > > Jim -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1972 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jan 10 22:23:56 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:23:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <006a01c853f1$ecd6c120$a7ecf804@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <00cf01c85412$2a488780$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Let's hope they all avoid the crusher. At the very least, even the worst of them will yield some parts that someone needs for a restoration. As for me; I'm done with over-ambitious restoration projects (famous last words???), or, at least I will be when I exhaust the supply of them in my garage. But, I've learned that I always need a major project to be pecking away at. Call it a creative outlet, call it an obsession.....I just call it fun. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: MICHAEL CARPENTER [mailto:MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:33 PM To: Bud Osbourne; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridget List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Hi Bud, I hope that someone does save them. However, there are so many more sound starting points than these rust buckets. I've learned that it is always better to save up for a bit longer and invest with one that is much less rusty. Unless, of course, you're related to Guido. Then it is a weekend restoration. I guess that my viewpoint is to find the creampuff in someones garage that is for sale verses the rust bucket out in the field that was left for dead about 35 years ago. Restorers in England would find these as prime restoration material also. I understand the desperation thing also, though. Mike C From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jan 10 22:15:32 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:15:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net> References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> How did the yellow car do?? Lester On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:16 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Just wait for my blue car to hit Craig's list, and remember to add > 26% to > your bid for the real price of the auction cars. I do like the mini- > moke, > maybe cause it is blue and I am a sucker for an Austin in blue. > Crash > > > Hi Bud, > > I hope that someone does save them. However, there are so many more > sound > starting points than these rust buckets. I've learned that it is > always > better to save up for a bit longer and invest with one that is much > less > rusty. Unless, of course, you're related to Guido. Then it is a > weekend > restoration. > > I guess that my viewpoint is to find the creampuff in someones > garage that > is for sale verses the rust bucket out in the field that was left > for dead > about 35 years ago. > > Restorers in England would find these as prime restoration material > also. > > I understand the desperation thing also, though. > > Mike C From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 10 22:41:36 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:41:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Nano car - Not LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801102141x4d6f93dv5126f620f549ffbc@mail.gmail.com> Does the word "implode" come to mind? What? No convertible!? From BCAH at aol.com Fri Jan 11 01:05:48 2008 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:05:48 EST Subject: [Spridgets] burlen Message-ID: Is there any truth to the rumor that newly made Burlen carb parts do not always fit old SU's? Also,---Burlen says the mechanical fuel pump for the 948 and 1275 have different part numbers. Are they really different pumps, or does the different number simply imply a different application? Bob C **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 02:53:12 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Newest Midget In-Reply-To: <4786C517.5@comcast.net> Message-ID: <960696.68832.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank, May be they were not expecting and got one any way..........LOL Vigil Frank Clarici wrote: Hey grandpa, congratulations. I didn't even know they were expectiong, I guess it's been awhile since I saw them. Be sure to pass along the congrats from Diane too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 03:09:02 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:09:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: <00a701c853fe$38266ca0$6a01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <367458.88304.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The ball that gos into the trans are different sizes. I think the smooth case is smaller if i remember correctly. Vigil Phil Nase wrote: How can I tell the difference between a ribcase and smoothcase shifter if they're both chromed? Also, how were the stock bugeye shifter knobs attached to the lever? I just removed mine and the lever is threaded but the knob was held on with a rubber sleeve and no sign of threads in the knob. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+nases=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:31 PM To: Hal Faulkner Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? Hal Faulkner wrote: > Hey, is this a ribcase lever? Yes, it's black, all smoothcases had chrome shifters. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 05:37:34 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:37:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net> <82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget> > How did the yellow car do?? Well, to tell the truth, thanks to Hal Faulkner posting here that the car was on Craig's List, I decided that this was the Bugeye that wasn't going to get away. So, instead of driving my Midget out to San Diego and back (about 4200 miles round trip), I am going to save a thousand miles by flying out to Reno with Trish, driving the Bugeye down PCH to San Diego, then driving home from there. Fortunately Crash was willing to keep the car there until 2/19 when we pick it up. For the first time in my life I now own a car that is older than I am. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Jan 11 05:45:51 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:45:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Message-ID: <28931079.1200055551928.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi David, That sounds like a really fun little vacation. Sort of like what Egan did quite a few times and wrote about for Road and Track. I hope to get to do that some day! Cheers, Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: David Lieb >Sent: Jan 11, 2008 7:37 AM >To: Lester , Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > >> How did the yellow car do?? > >Well, to tell the truth, thanks to Hal Faulkner posting here that the car >was on Craig's List, I decided that this was the Bugeye that wasn't going to >get away. So, instead of driving my Midget out to San Diego and back (about >4200 miles round trip), I am going to save a thousand miles by flying out to >Reno with Trish, driving the Bugeye down PCH to San Diego, then driving home >from there. Fortunately Crash was willing to keep the car there until 2/19 >when we pick it up. For the first time in my life I now own a car that is >older than I am. >David Lieb >1972 RWA Midget >1960 RWA Bugeye >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 11 06:30:37 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:30:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net><82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> <00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Lester" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction > How did the yellow car do?? Well, to tell the truth, thanks to Hal Faulkner posting here that the car was on Craig's List, I decided that this was the Bugeye that wasn't going to get away. So, instead of driving my Midget out to San Diego and back (about 4200 miles round trip), I am going to save a thousand miles by flying out to Reno with Trish, driving the Bugeye down PCH to San Diego, then driving home from there. Fortunately Crash was willing to keep the car there until 2/19 when we pick it up. For the first time in my life I now own a car that is older than I am. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye _______________________________________________ Congratulations, David. That reminds me of my 925 mile get-acquainted ride home from Baltimore with my A60 Pickup. Although some thought I was nuts for doing that on my own with a 40 year old vehicle that I had never seen before, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to do it again. It looks like you are in for a bit longer of a trip, though. Are you going to take Route 66 to get home? Perfect time to do it. I picked up a bunch of spares from Peter C. and put together two tool bags full of tools and parts. As I expected, the airlines had a field day tearing it all apart to see what all of that electrical wire and odd shaped stuff on the x-rays was. Anyhow, enjoy your trip and your new car. Larry From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 11 07:09:14 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:09:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? Message-ID: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209138240 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 11 07:25:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:25:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? In-Reply-To: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa. earthlink.net> References: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080111082437.037e6dd8@nosimport.com> Mine are disabled. Can I get a special plate? ED == At 08:09 AM 1/11/2008, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209138240 > >jay fishbein >wallingford, ct >http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 07:59:00 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:59:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? References: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002501c85462$7faa3b10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Gee, I wonder who "Type79" might be... Anybody had any dealings with them? Yes, I do know that it is Jay. And that blasted cookie jar is nearly the same color as my Bugeye... Good thing there isn't a black strip down it! David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 Cookie Jar From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 08:14:02 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:14:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? References: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <002501c85462$7faa3b10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002f01c85464$9a493190$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I see that this is Frank's great fear... a Bugeye made in China... From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jan 11 08:33:12 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:33:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone care to host photos? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have used Joe and I have also used Jim Taylor in Oklahoma. Jim's gotta be at least 100 years old by now, but his work was very good and the carbs looked correct. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal [mailto:tequila.brad at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:19 PM To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone care to host photos? I got the Curto carbs back today. They look clean, servicable, and I can tell more, once I get the engine going. If anyone is willing to host some photos, I'll send some, so that others can see what they look like before they lay out almost $400. For those building a "hot rod" engine, these carbs are NOT shiny and purty. My opinion is, you spend that kind of money on an escort, not that I ever have, (shut the F up ED!!) she better be damn nice looking, not just "clean and servicable". I was very insistent that the carbs look as close to factory as possible. Since I wasn't even born, when the Bugeye was in production, I was not old enough to have ever seen one on the showroom floor. Thus, I don't know if they were shiny when new, or not. Once these photos are posted, I would love to hear from those list members, that DID buy new, to see if these look correct. If you need carbs redone, just be aware, I send mine off October 21st, and they came back January 9th. Your milage may vary, as I did have two holidays thrown into the rebuild process. If no one offers to host, I'll put them up on myspace. I know you have to start the free membership to view them there, and most of you don't want to mess with that, that is why I am sending this out. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 11 09:25:18 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:25:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Auction Message-ID: In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I will be there with truck, trailer, and $$. I can always come home with an empty trailer too. -- Frank Clarici Buy the boat and you get a trailer too! Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 11 09:28:26 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:28:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry Message-ID: In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's Midgets in about 16 years. Fantastic Larry, welcome to a great, great club. On Jan. 2nd I transferred the title to my F150 4x4 to my 16 year old grandson and then made a two day road trip with him to get it home...one of the best times of my life. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! Will they be calling the other grandparent "big momma"? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 11 09:34:32 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:34:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Auction Message-ID: In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Did you notice in the description that all 10 are >"1961 Bugeyes"? Historical vehicles, to be sure. >Anon Most all of the cars seem to have 73,000 miles on them too. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jan 11 11:02:26 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:02:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] burlen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d201c8547c$1fffe100$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Although I've heard that there are some occasional problems, I've had good luck with the ones I've used on HS2s, and HIF4s. I'll be ordering a few rebuild kits, for an upcoming carburetor & ignition tech seminar, for our local MG and Triumph clubs. If I find anything that is amiss, I'll sure announce it to you guys. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BCAH at aol.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:06 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] burlen Is there any truth to the rumor that newly made Burlen carb parts do not always fit old SU's? Also,---Burlen says the mechanical fuel pump for the 948 and 1275 have different part numbers. Are they really different pumps, or does the different number simply imply a different application? Bob C From george505 at nc.rr.com Fri Jan 11 10:25:39 2008 From: george505 at nc.rr.com (George Drewett) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 sprite Message-ID: <001101c85476$fcb036a0$6401a8c0@Drewett> Guys, I have a 66 sprite project car. Due to health reasons I can't even start on it. I need to sell it as is. It has a lot of good parts. I need your help. George From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Jan 11 10:31:48 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:31:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 66 sprite In-Reply-To: <001101c85476$fcb036a0$6401a8c0@Drewett> References: <001101c85476$fcb036a0$6401a8c0@Drewett> Message-ID: <009a01c85477$daab4d00$9001e700$@com> We need your help... where are you located? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Drewett Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:26 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 66 sprite Guys, I have a 66 sprite project car. Due to health reasons I can't even start on it. I need to sell it as is. It has a lot of good parts. I need your help. George From Daniel1312 at aol.com Fri Jan 11 10:50:41 2008 From: Daniel1312 at aol.com (Daniel1312 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:50:41 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Anyone care to host photos? Message-ID: _www.weslake.co.uk_ (http://www.weslake.co.uk) - look for the A-series stuff. When you get to the rocker and think how neat it looks, remember I have one on my car's engine........ Daniel1312 W e s l a k e In a message dated 10/01/2008 20:32:31 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: W E S L A K E ?? What's that? ;) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jan 11 11:04:46 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:04:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT Rant: Audi and Volvos and fog lights Message-ID: <29067643.1125271200074686590.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01> Why do they release these cars in the US with rear fog lights? Rush hour on the expressway is NOT considered a convoy. In fact, if I can see you and a couple of miles of tail lights in front of you, you do not need fogs on anyway... thanks, i feel better now. Chris 66 MKIII Brookfield, WI http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismanuel From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 11:19:12 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:19:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT Rant: Audi and Volvos and fog lights In-Reply-To: <29067643.1125271200074686590.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01> References: <29067643.1125271200074686590.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web27-z01> Message-ID: <4787B320.7000303@comcast.net> cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: > Why do they release these cars in the US with rear fog lights? My Jag has them too and I have only used them once when I could not see the car in front of me so I hoped it help the car behind me see me. But you are right, I see fog lights on all the time even when it's a clear night. Maybe people do not know what "fog" means? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 11 12:31:14 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:31:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] For you Sprinzel Sprite Builders/Restorers Message-ID: <23124272.1200079874923.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Something for you hoards of people building a Sprinzel Sprite: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209237949 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 12:40:50 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:40:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry References: Message-ID: <007201c85489$def32ab0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" > long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's > Midgets in about 16 years. Good thing you are an MG guy rather than an Austin-Healey guy... Imagine if you had had to announce the arrival of a baby Bugeye! Kristi woulda probably decked you ;-) Congratulations and best wishes to all! David Lieb From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jan 11 12:59:01 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:59:01 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? Message-ID: I'll bet it's possible to make a spacer plate out of aluminium plate (of just the right thickness) to use the longer rod in the box that requires the shorter rod. One is longer between the big ball and small ball. Not much, hardly noticable but it will not work on the other trans. I forget which is what, Paul A will know, he taught me. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 13:14:46 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:14:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net><82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> <00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget> <06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I went down to the Secretary of State's office (on Lieb Avenue) during lunch today and transferred the title and got my new plates. I am now the proud co-owner of a 1960 Austin-Healey Sprit. I tried to convince the gal that there is no such thing as an Austin-Healey Sprit, but the Nevada title said "Sprit", so it is a Sprit. Maybe that is the lightweight version? I guess I should be grateful that it isn't a "Spit". I pointed out that the form said it was for a duplicate or corrected title, but she was adamant that she could not correct it unless I had some form of absolute proof that it was not a Sprit. Since I had not noticed that the title said "Sprit", I was not prepared. Oh well, it may be the only Sprit in the state... David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 13:39:28 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:39:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing Message-ID: I am washing the engine compartment, but other than knocking off some of the newer grime, not much is happening. Can anyone recommend something that might help loosen the grime, so the pressure washer would be more effective. I have tried Mean Green, as it is environmentally friendly. I am doing this on the parking area next to my home, so I can't use anything really caustic. Plus, it would ruin the paint anyway. Thank you -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 13:40:21 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit In-Reply-To: <007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net><82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> <00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget> <06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry> <007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4787D435.9010305@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > it may be the only Sprit in the state... And my 67 is the only SpritE with 1,000,000 miles on it. Dumb DMV drones could not accept the fact that the car came with no speedometer. So they said it has to read the max which is 99,999.9 on a SpritE but not in NJ, now it has 999,999.9 and I did roll it into the garage so now it has one million miles on it. But the speedometer I have now says ZERO. How can that be? ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwramsey at att.net Fri Jan 11 13:44:31 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:44:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? In-Reply-To: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20080111204439.DDC0E187AA5@autox.team.net> CAUTION-caution-CAUTION These cookie jars contain lead paint and could cause injury or death. If you have one or know of one it should be sent postage paid to the Nevada Nuclear Waste Containment Unit, located in Reno, NV. It should be well packed with product before shipping, we have found in the past that "ginger snaps" work best to prevent the leakage of stray lead-ion particles during shipping, however any type of product is better than shipping it empty. Any delay in the receipt the item will incur an additional fee based charge service account in your name. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209138240 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 13:45:02 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:45:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <752800.38377.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! V I G I L RampantNM at aol.com wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's Midgets in about 16 years. Fantastic Larry, welcome to a great, great club. On Jan. 2nd I transferred the title to my F150 4x4 to my 16 year old grandson and then made a two day road trip with him to get it home...one of the best times of my life. Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! Will they be calling the other grandparent "big momma"? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 11 13:46:01 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:46:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net><82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net> <00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget> <06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry> <007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4787D435.9010305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <008601c85492$fa4d2fa0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > SpritE but not in NJ, now it has 999,999.9 and I did roll it into the > garage so now it has one million miles on it. But the speedometer I have > now says ZERO. How can that be? ;) Frank, Come on, everyone knows that when you hit the maximum mileage on a speedometer and roll it over your reading goes to 0! ED From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 13:43:04 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:43:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4787D4D8.1070905@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > I am washing the engine compartment, but other than knocking off some of the > newer grime, not much is happening. Can anyone recommend something that > might help loosen the grime, so the pressure washer would be more effective. > I have tried Mean Green, as it is environmentally friendly. I am doing this > on the parking area next to my home, so I can't use anything really caustic. > Plus, it would ruin the paint anyway. Castrol Superclean. Cuts grease, doesn't hurt paint unless it's on aluminum gutters (don't ask) and will not hurt the parkinglot. If Mean Green is anything like Simple Green, you will have better results if you peed on it. I have a gallon of simple green, it smells nice but doesn't "clean" a damn thing. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 13:45:30 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:45:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shift lever for ribcase? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4787D56A.60606@comcast.net> Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > I'll bet it's possible to make a spacer plate out of aluminium plate (of > just the right thickness) to use the longer rod in the box that requires the > shorter rod. Or a couple of washers. Worked for me ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 13:46:50 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:46:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calander Message-ID: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> I just received mine in the mail, I really like November ;) Lots of great pictures, thanks to Dave for all he did to make this possible. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Jan 11 13:51:14 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:51:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D15631-EC5F-4DD8-8095-E5CAA807D514@valentinephoto.net> Brad, Castrol Superclean It's the purple stuff. Available at Walmart and most automotive stores. (Or at least it used to be....) Works great on grease!! It will etch into aluminium if used full strength. I diluted it 1:1 with water and sprayed the engine bay, left it sit for about 1/2 hour and then pressure washed. Worked great! It didn't mess up the paint, but I would read the cautions before you use it to make sure they didn't change the formulation. Kevin V. On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I am washing the engine compartment, but other than knocking off > some of the > newer grime, not much is happening. Can anyone recommend something > that > might help loosen the grime, so the pressure washer would be more > effective. > I have tried Mean Green, as it is environmentally friendly. I am > doing this > on the parking area next to my home, so I can't use anything really > caustic. > Plus, it would ruin the paint anyway. > > Thank you > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevin at valentinephoto.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Jan 11 14:07:23 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:07:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing References: Message-ID: <01b301c85495$f87e34a0$8500a8c0@CT> Brad, I use Gunk Foamy Engine Brite, works good won't hurt paint. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com I can't use anything really caustic. Plus, it would ruin the paint anyway. From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jan 11 14:36:05 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:36:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit References: <20080111021617.DFE06187A4E@autox.team.net><82B0AA69-B9C3-4875-86B0-FF5B336D186B@comcast.net><00b601c8544e$be5eb840$0401a8c0@midget><06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry><007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <4787D435.9010305@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001701c85499$f86112e0$6401a8c0@personal> Yep when they asked me how many miles I said no clue. They insisted so I said what would you like, I can set it for what ever. They said you can't do that, I said I surely can and did, reads 0. They said we will just put unknown. Duh. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit > David Lieb wrote: >> it may be the only Sprit in the state... > > And my 67 is the only SpritE with 1,000,000 miles on it. > Dumb DMV drones could not accept the fact that the car came with no > speedometer. So they said it has to read the max which is 99,999.9 on a > SpritE but not in NJ, now it has 999,999.9 and I did roll it into the > garage so now it has one million miles on it. But the speedometer I have > now says ZERO. How can that be? ;) > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 > 1:32 PM From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jan 11 14:39:21 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:39:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Calander References: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002801c8549a$6d6d8550$6401a8c0@personal> Yep got my 5 as well. Really well done and packaged. Each grandkid will get one as they are in the pic. Plus one for me as well of course. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Calander >I just received mine in the mail, I really like November ;) > Lots of great pictures, thanks to Dave for all he did to make this > possible. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1218 - Release Date: 1/10/2008 > 1:32 PM From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 17:05:36 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:05:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction In-Reply-To: <06d201c85456$279c1440$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <29989.51558.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Congratulations, David. That reminds me of my 925 > mile get-acquainted ride > home from Baltimore with my A60 Pickup Same here with my Bugeye. Pre-cell days, no spares except points, Louisville KY to Melbourne FL. I got shot at in Macon GA (they hit a rear tire; a Bugeye can go several miles on a at tire and you can dig out the spare and change a flat in about 40 seconds in a bad neighborhood when pushed), other than that it was a great trip. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 17:06:08 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:06:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 painted Message-ID: <47880470.2040700@comcast.net> It looks much better than the pictures show but it's finally all green after 3 months of body work. Now, some assembly required ;) Most parts are ready to go. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/paint1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/paint2.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 17:12:47 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:12:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Yellow Sprit In-Reply-To: <007c01c8548e$9c9ccc70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <174055.39686.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > but the Nevada title said > "Sprit", so it is a Sprit David, Next time....I always wait on the line that is staffed by an attractive middle aged lady named "Vanna" in case I need to buy a vowel. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 17:17:04 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:17:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <29989.51558.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <074901c854b0$76053850$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> 'course FIRST question that comes to mind, was youse just lookin' for a "peach"??? 2nd, a chap of YOUR "girth" THAT fast????? Anon From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 11 17:40:55 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:40:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction References: <29989.51558.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003601c854b3$cb0b3e50$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "David Lieb" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Congratulations, David. That reminds me of my 925 > mile get-acquainted ride > home from Baltimore with my A60 Pickup Same here with my Bugeye. Pre-cell days, no spares except points, Louisville KY to Melbourne FL. I got shot at in Macon GA (they hit a rear tire; a Bugeye can go several miles on a at tire and you can dig out the spare and change a flat in about 40 seconds in a bad neighborhood when pushed), other than that it was a great trip. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yikes. My trip was not nearly as exciting (?) as yours. I only had to deal with an oil leak from a loose banjo fitting on the oil filter head. In fact everybody I had contact with was all smiles... except the two little bastards that ripped off my gas cap while I was in a restaurant. Maybe that is the advantage of taking a (non-redneck) northern route? Everybody should do a solo trip like that at least once -- and not in a modern car that has little chance of breaking down in the next 50,000 miles. LAD (Flame suit on and zipped tightly for all you southern boys.) From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 18:11:43 2008 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:11:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big online / live auction Message-ID: Reminds me of driving the AL-Can from Seattle through Fairbanks then back to Anchorage in 1984 in a Primrose 1969 MGB-GT. Then again in 1986 in a red 1969 MGC-GT from Anchorage back to Seattle. Nobody shooting at me, but plenty of bears and Alaska size mosquitoes! Over a thousands miles of gravel road, part way on the trip south a rock flew up and cracked the clutch slave. No clutch from somewhere north of Whitehorse Yukon on down. I just timed the gears. When I had to start it up from cold I'd just put it in 1st or 2nd & turn the key & go. I hit Vancouver BC on the day that Charles & Di visited. Me with no clutch, Vancouver busier than ever. That was memorable. ______________________________ ______________________________________________________ --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Congratulations, David. That reminds me of my 925 > mile get-acquainted ride > home from Baltimore with my A60 Pickup Same here with my Bugeye. Pre-cell days, no spares except points, Louisville KY to Melbourne FL. I got shot at in Macon GA (they hit a rear tire; a Bugeye can go several miles on a at tire and you can dig out the spare and change a flat in about 40 seconds in a bad neighborhood when pushed), other than that it was a great trip. Ron ______________________________ ______________________________________________________ Yikes. My trip was not nearly as exciting (?) as yours. I only had to deal with an oil leak from a loose banjo fitting on the oil filter head. In fact everybody I had contact with was all smiles... except the two little bastards that ripped off my gas cap while I was in a restaurant. Maybe that is the advantage of taking a (non-redneck) northern route? Everybody should do a solo trip like that at least once -- and not in a modern car that has little chance of breaking down in the next 50,000 miles. LAD (Flame suit on and zipped tightly for all you southern boys.) From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jan 11 18:12:26 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:12:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. Message-ID: <4787A37A.1084.18A3210@dmg.bossig.com> St. Mary's, MD. to Salt Lake City, UT. in my '67 Sprite with my (then) 10 yr old boy to go to Grandma's house... It was over 20 years ago, and We've never forgotten it... Spridgets == Memories ;-)) - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 11 18:21:07 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:21:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, My name is Opa Larry, Theresa's name is Nana, and Kristi's mom is Grandma. I am too young to be a GrandPa, so Opa woks ;-) Larry On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:28 AM, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" > long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's > Midgets in about 16 years. > > > > > Fantastic Larry, welcome to a great, great club. On Jan. 2nd I > transferred > the title to my F150 4x4 to my 16 year old grandson and then made a > two day > road trip with him to get it home...one of the best times of my life. > > Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! > > Will they be calling the other grandparent "big momma"? > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 11 18:24:26 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:24:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 painted References: <47880470.2040700@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005701c854b9$df918cc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Frank, I really like that color. Is that the standard BRG for that year or a custom color? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:06 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 67 painted It looks much better than the pictures show but it's finally all green after 3 months of body work. Now, some assembly required ;) Most parts are ready to go. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/paint1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/paint2.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 11 18:36:00 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:36:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry In-Reply-To: <752800.38377.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <752800.38377.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F9ACC8A-0BF0-450E-ACB1-7ABEF855F86F@phillymgclub.com> Thanks, Kristi and Wynter are going home in the AM it will be a unique thing to be there (oh, and I will) when this new Midget gets there. (Yea a Bugeye or Frogeye comment would not have gone as well Dave) Larry On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:45 PM, wrote: > C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ! > > V I G I L > > RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" > long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's > Midgets in about 16 years. > > > > > Fantastic Larry, welcome to a great, great club. On Jan. 2nd I > transferred > the title to my F150 4x4 to my 16 year old grandson and then made a > two day > road trip with him to get it home...one of the best times of my life. > > Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! > > Will they be calling the other grandparent "big momma"? > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners > Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly > formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for > experienced hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected > and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jan 11 18:57:07 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:57:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry References: Message-ID: <033101c854be$7070f6f0$53997e4c@HP> Mine all call me Papa Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry > Thanks, My name is Opa Larry, Theresa's name is Nana, and Kristi's mom > is Grandma. > > I am too young to be a GrandPa, so Opa woks ;-) > > Larry > > On Jan 11, 2008, at 11:28 AM, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/10/2008 6:35:26 PM Mountain Standard Time, >> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: >> >> The newest Midget is 6 lbs, 6 oz and 19" >> long. She aspires to drive both of her parents, and her grandfather's >> Midgets in about 16 years. >> >> >> >> >> Fantastic Larry, welcome to a great, great club. On Jan. 2nd I >> transferred >> the title to my F150 4x4 to my 16 year old grandson and then made a >> two day >> road trip with him to get it home...one of the best times of my life. >> >> Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy! >> >> Will they be calling the other grandparent "big momma"? >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert B. Houston >> >> 74.5 MGBGT >> 73 MG Midget From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 19:18:22 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:18:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay cojones Message-ID: <678232.28927.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Curious to see if anyone bids on this, a $300 bare 1275. This seller always seems a bit "out there", but I got a block like this for free last weekend. The one before that in 2005, now on my racecar, was $50 with oil pan and valve cover (not W E S L A K E, though). Item number: 130188562700 Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 11 19:21:44 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:21:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Grampa Larry References: Message-ID: <01ca01c854c1$e0a4b0d0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Bunk!! <> Should be GreatGreatGrandPa, Larry!!!! "course the pony tail would be shorter, thinner & WAY grayer!!!!! LOL Anon From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 11 19:22:51 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:22:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] BE Steering column length Message-ID: <491802.95997.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lazy question - Can anyone tell me the correct length for a Bugeye steering column, spline tip to spline tip? A friend gave me a true collapsible steering column for the race Sprite for Christmas and, although it is meant for an early Sprite, I think the length isn't exactly the same as a stock one. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Jan 11 19:36:03 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:36:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SPAM- Ebay cojones In-Reply-To: <678232.28927.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c854c3$e179f040$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Curious to see if anyone bids on this, a $300 bare 1275. This seller always seems a bit "out there", but I got a block like this for free last weekend. The one before that in 2005, now on my racecar, was $50 with oil pan and valve cover (not W E S L A K E, though). Item number: 130188562700 Ron It looks like he lowered price all the way down to $249! Must be related to the guy out here on craigslist still trying (after 6 months) to get $599 for a well used (though complete) 1275 engine and $299 for the matching ribcase! Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 6:09 PM From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 11 19:50:51 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:50:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calander In-Reply-To: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> References: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <11C42F5C-F136-43F6-A5FD-977BB63719A4@phillymgclub.com> Got mine today as well. Yep that is Kristi's car in Sept at the end of the row. And. if not mistaken, the guy in the red hat, next to Kristi, is our favorite curmudgeon, Just Ed. Cool pics, nice job guys!!! Larry On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I just received mine in the mail, I really like November ;) > Lots of great pictures, thanks to Dave for all he did to make this > possible. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 11 19:59:06 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:59:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <4787A37A.1084.18A3210@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4787A37A.1084.18A3210@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge parkway. 4 people, 1 Midget, 1 Yamaha motorcycle. Camping all the way. Got rained out in Monticello, after having to swap the alternator in a downpour. 2300 miles, 10 days. Was a blast. Next most memorable was the BABE Rallye with Rob Valentine. THat was a great ride. The drive home was a killer, again had to replace the alt on the road, but it all worked out in the end. I unnerstan Rob hit a deer 5 miles from home after about 2800 miles in 6 days. Larry On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Dave G. wrote: > St. Mary's, MD. to Salt Lake City, UT. in my '67 Sprite with my > (then) 10 yr > old boy to go to Grandma's house... > It was over 20 years ago, and We've never forgotten it... > > Spridgets == Memories ;-)) > > - > Dave G, KK7SS > '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 20:06:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:06:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Steering column length In-Reply-To: <491802.95997.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <491802.95997.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47882EA1.40100@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Lazy question - > Can anyone tell me the correct length for a Bugeye > steering column, spline tip to spline tip? Spline tip to spline tip is 46" Overall length is 46.5" (1/2" of threads for the nut) So 46.5 tip to tip -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 11 20:30:01 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:30:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay cojones In-Reply-To: <678232.28927.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <678232.28927.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47883439.6010105@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Curious to see if anyone bids on this, a $300 bare > 1275. This seller always seems a bit "out there", Out there! I have seen some of his Ebay stuff and his prices. Like Crazy Eddie used to say in his TV ads.... "Our prices are INSANE!" I think this is the guy who wants $200 for a Midget door, $99 for the vent window from the door, $40 for the door handle and $99 for the window glass, then he sells the window mechanism for another $100. Does he really get $550 for a used Midget door? If so, I'm gonna retire :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 20:38:45 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:38:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay cojones In-Reply-To: <47883439.6010105@comcast.net> References: <678232.28927.qm@web30512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47883439.6010105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801111938o4b699ce2g2d578b102060d57c@mail.gmail.com> Cool!! I've got $1100 worth of Midget doors taking up space on one side o the garage!! Lessee.... $600 worth of shot in the ass ribcases, prolly $400 worth of seat frames and rails.... Oh! And Frank just sent me a steering rack and steering column! At this rate I should be able to get another $800 for those..... Wow!! I wonder how much the entire Midget is worth!? It just boggles the mind! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/11/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Ron Soave wrote: > > Curious to see if anyone bids on this, a $300 bare > > 1275. This seller always seems a bit "out there", > > Out there! I have seen some of his Ebay stuff and his prices. > Like Crazy Eddie used to say in his TV ads.... > "Our prices are INSANE!" > I think this is the guy who wants $200 for a Midget door, $99 for the > vent window from the door, $40 for the door handle and $99 for the > window glass, then he sells the window mechanism for another $100. > Does he really get $550 for a used Midget door? > If so, I'm gonna retire :) > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 21:36:02 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:36:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801112036x4548af55i3d9f65d751db13e9@mail.gmail.com> "Purple Power"...watch the paint! On Jan 11, 2008 12:39 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I am washing the engine compartment, but other than knocking off some of > the > newer grime, not much is happening. Can anyone recommend something that > might help loosen the grime, so the pressure washer would be more > effective. > I have tried Mean Green, as it is environmentally friendly. I am doing > this > on the parking area next to my home, so I can't use anything really > caustic. > Plus, it would ruin the paint anyway. > > Thank you > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 21:37:43 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:37:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? In-Reply-To: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <13420194.1200060554184.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801112037p72841ea4i590511ca35a5ffa8@mail.gmail.com> Weren't these being sold, new, recently? On Jan 11, 2008 6:09 AM, wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209138240 > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 21:39:44 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:39:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Calander In-Reply-To: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> References: <4787D5BA.6050409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801112039v30222f75uf5cb316f23fb1252@mail.gmail.com> Son, Dustin, called today. Received ours as well. Thanks Dave. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 21:44:52 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:44:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> "Purple Power" Watch the paint! From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 11 21:55:06 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:55:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? Message-ID: <25578202.1200113706094.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Could be but to the best of my knowledge they are sold out and unavailable. jay fishbein wallingford, CT http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- From: WFO Herb Sent: Jan 11, 2008 11:37 PM To: type79 at ix.netcom.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cookies Anyone? Weren't these being sold, new, recently? On Jan 11, 2008 6:09 AM, wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120209138240 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 23:52:53 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:52:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: References: <4787A37A.1084.18A3210@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801112252t11fb099cx4515164faff0bdc4@mail.gmail.com> I was watching an interesting show on HD where they travel down hwy 1 from Miami to Key West and it brought back a lot of memories. Seems like nothing has really changed, and it's been 20 years since I've been to a lot of those places. I always wanted to take the Miata all the way down there... On Jan 11, 2008 8:59 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge parkway. 4 people, 1 Midget, 1 Yamaha > motorcycle. Camping all the way. Got rained out in Monticello, after > having to swap the alternator in a downpour. 2300 miles, 10 days. Was > a blast. > > Next most memorable was the BABE Rallye with Rob Valentine. THat was a > great ride. The drive home was a killer, again had to replace the alt > on the road, but it all worked out in the end. I unnerstan Rob hit a > deer 5 miles from home after about 2800 miles in 6 days. > > Larry > > On Jan 11, 2008, at 8:12 PM, Dave G. wrote: > > > St. Mary's, MD. to Salt Lake City, UT. in my '67 Sprite with my > > (then) 10 yr > > old boy to go to Grandma's house... > > It was over 20 years ago, and We've never forgotten it... > > > > Spridgets == Memories ;-)) > > > > - > > Dave G, KK7SS > > '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA > > _______________________________________________ > > > -- > "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin > Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 00:54:14 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:54:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0801112252t11fb099cx4515164faff0bdc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <738667.39947.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Flash." > Miami to Key West and it brought back a lot of > memories. > places. I always wanted to take the Miata all the > way down there... Dude, I respect the Miata lifestyle, but if you show up in a Miata in Key West, the car won't be all that's going all the way down there. Bring some Liza Minelli for the CD changer. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 07:23:12 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:23:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Prop rod question Message-ID: <4788CD50.8020206@comcast.net> On a later Midget with the click stick to hold up the bonnet, is the hole in the fender and bonnet brackets 1/4" or is it large enough to hold that spacer collar? The hole in the click stick is maybe 3/8, I made the brackets for this stick on the 67 but I noticed the collar fits the hole in the stick, does this collar go through the bracket too? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 08:05:33 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:05:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have packing blankets clipped to the lip on both fenders, and the scuttle. The blankets hang over the fenders, as well as the windscreen and white top, to prevent "coloring" from any stray bits of debris flying off as I clean. As far as what is under the bonnet, I am not to terribly concerned about it, it is a bit of white paint, with the pinkish primer showing through in many area. I know it won't look "restored" but I will feel better, putting this new engine inside a clean bay, rather than a filthy one. Plus, the white paint should make spotting leaks a bit easier. On Jan 11, 2008 10:44 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > "Purple Power" Watch the paint! > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 05:42:23 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:42:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <738667.39947.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0801112252t11fb099cx4515164faff0bdc4@mail.gmail.com> <738667.39947.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801120442n1cfd7eecnab72a80fd917cd0c@mail.gmail.com> On 1/12/08, Ron Soave wrote: > > Dude, I respect the Miata lifestyle, but if you show > up in a Miata in Key West, the car won't be all that's > going all the way down there. Bring some Liza Minelli > for the CD changer. A few years ago I rode the motorcycle down to Key West from Miami. I had just enough gas to turn quickly around and ride back to Miami without stopping. Still gives me the willies thinking about it! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 07:27:02 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:27:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <738667.39947.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8a336b9d0801112252t11fb099cx4515164faff0bdc4@mail.gmail.com> <738667.39947.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801120627q768c367fpc7f3e1ce4d6363e4@mail.gmail.com> when in rome, right? Hey, if sev can pretend to be straight in Wisconsin I can pretend to be gay in Miami. It's only fair. On Jan 12, 2008 1:54 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- "Flash." > > Miami to Key West and it brought back a lot of > > memories. > > places. I always wanted to take the Miata all the > > way down there... > > Dude, I respect the Miata lifestyle, but if you show > up in a Miata in Key West, the car won't be all that's > going all the way down there. Bring some Liza Minelli > for the CD changer. > > Ron > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From lists at woozy.com Sat Jan 12 12:53:07 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:53:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47891AA3.9040109@woozy.com> Has anyone used one of these?: I live 20 miles from where I work and on most days I drive my truck 10 miles to the Durham Bulls ballpark, park my truck and ride my bike for the rest of the way. At night it's the reverse. On days when I want to drive the MG I have to pass on the bike ride. I've been looking for a way to carry the bike on the MG that won't tear up the paint and the sheet metal. If anyone has used one of these I'd love to hear how it worked out. I don't know if there is a way to put a small trailer hitch on a Midget but if there is that would allow me to use a hitch mounted rack and I wouldn't have to worry about the paint or denting the trunk lid. If anyone knows if that is possible please let me know. Thanks, Robert From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 13:28:51 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? In-Reply-To: <47891AA3.9040109@woozy.com> Message-ID: <527793.25428.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Robert, I have used a similar rack - Generic from Pep boys years ago. It mounts in the trunk or hatch back door. It worked. - It was not as good as the roof rack or trailer hitch ones. You did not say how far you ride. The one i had that was the trailer hitch kind. Had its draw backs. The bike had to be on just right or it would hit the car. The only one i can not say i had issues with is the roof rack. May be a collapsible bike would work. There is a guy in Manhattan Beach who rides one all the time. He has a Bugeye. The bike fits behind the seats. He pulls it out and Cruz's the water front. Just a thought. Vigil Robert Weeks wrote: Has anyone used one of these?: I live 20 miles from where I work and on most days I drive my truck 10 miles to the Durham Bulls ballpark, park my truck and ride my bike for the rest of the way. At night it's the reverse. On days when I want to drive the MG I have to pass on the bike ride. I've been looking for a way to carry the bike on the MG that won't tear up the paint and the sheet metal. If anyone has used one of these I'd love to hear how it worked out. I don't know if there is a way to put a small trailer hitch on a Midget but if there is that would allow me to use a hitch mounted rack and I wouldn't have to worry about the paint or denting the trunk lid. If anyone knows if that is possible please let me know. Thanks, Robert You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From nases at verizon.net Sat Jan 12 13:50:58 2008 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:50:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] parts finish question Message-ID: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Should the Bugeye bonnet locking rods be painted. I know the handle was chromed. How about the door latches, painted or bare? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jan 12 14:03:10 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops Message-ID: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> I was tracking both of these hardtops. Factory 2 seat big healey hardtop.. http://tinyurl.com/2c8p7d And. A factory Bugeye hardtop. http://tinyurl.com/24dqmx The guy that bought the 2 seat big Healey hardtop got a real deal. These rarely become available, and I've seen them go for $4000+. (I turned one down for my BN6 back in the 70's for $100.) Although they look nearly identical to the factory 4 seat, they are not the same. Really hard to come by. I found the no sale, reserve not met price of the Bugeye hardtop to be pretty staggering. I believe that's our "seeking approval, modifying the car with air ride" dude selling that (along with the Walker bonnet). I've not seen a factory hardtop go that high. Highest I ever paid was $600 for a freshly painted mint one with perfect chrome, seals and original window. I paid $1000 for a very rare aftermarket fastback top once. But unsold at $1250 due to reserve not met is hard to believe. This was in primer, and needed seals installed too. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jan 12 14:21:52 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:21:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops In-Reply-To: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> Message-ID: <12210a30c9ca2d528a28ca4a.20080112132152.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I have a top that has just been painted and I have new seals to install from Bill Bolton. This top is the one that I had a disagreement over with the "Air ride" Huntington Beach idiot. I would be willing to part with it because I find it difficult at my age now to get in and out of the car with the top on. It has the original glass (I don't know where the idiot would get new glass like he mentions in his auction) and all hardware is there. Before I put it on Ebay if there is any interest let me know. I don't want to ship it and I will take $800 for it, even though I have $1200 into it. Your gain. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Wm. Severin Thompson > I was tracking both of these hardtops. > > > > Factory 2 seat big healey hardtop.. http://tinyurl.com/2c8p7d > > > > And. > > > > A factory Bugeye hardtop. http://tinyurl.com/24dqmx > > > > > > The guy that bought the 2 seat big Healey hardtop got a real deal. These > rarely become available, and I've seen them go for $4000+. (I turned one > down for my BN6 back in the 70's for $100.) Although they look nearly > identical to the factory 4 seat, they are not the same. Really hard to > come > by. > > > > I found the no sale, reserve not met price of the Bugeye hardtop to be > pretty staggering. I believe that's our "seeking approval, modifying the > car > with air ride" dude selling that (along with the Walker bonnet). I've not > seen a factory hardtop go that high. Highest I ever paid was $600 for a > freshly painted mint one with perfect chrome, seals and original window. I > paid $1000 for a very rare aftermarket fastback top once. But unsold at > $1250 due to reserve not met is hard to believe. This was in primer, and > needed seals installed too. > > > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii In a message dated 1/11/2008 9:55:50 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Frank, I really like that color. Is that the standard BRG for that year or a custom color? Frank's actually Irish, that's Lucky Charms green.... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Jan 12 15:04:19 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:04:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] parts finish question References: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <001201c85567$14cd7220$6401a8c0@personal> Bonnet locking rods are painted black. Door latches are cad plated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: [Spridgets] parts finish question > Should the Bugeye bonnet locking rods be painted. I know the handle was > chromed. > > How about the door latches, painted or bare? > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 > 6:09 PM From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 12 16:02:36 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:02:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> <12210a30c9ca2d528a28ca4a.20080112132152.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <123301c8556f$39857ec0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> You mean you don't get a "road" discount, Mike????? Frank From lists at woozy.com Sat Jan 12 16:12:59 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:12:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? In-Reply-To: <527793.25428.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <527793.25428.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4789497B.6030706@woozy.com> Hi Vigil, Looks like this email didn't go through to the list the first time. After I sent the first reply I found the photos of the MGB canoe carrier mentioned below: http://woozy.com/midget/lbc_canoe_carrier/ Looking at the pictures now I think he'd be better off trailering it. I ride 20 miles round trip a day during the week when the weather cooperates. Weekends I might do a longer or harder ride if I'm feeling motivated and can find the time. Winters here are very mild so I'm able to do it year round. It helps a lot with stress. If I stop doing it so I can drive the MG I notice that I'm not doing so well after a few days off even though driving the MG is fun and can be relaxing also. If I don't get enough riding in I get crazy and start telling people to "bite me" and things like that. ;-) I have a hitch mount rack on my pickup truck which works great. I've had problems with the trunk ones scratching or denting the car when I've used them with my wife's car and with rental cars. We just rented a brand new '08 Dodge Grand Caravan for our holiday travels and the Yakima rack dented the sheet metal slightly. Luckily the person who inspected the van when we brought it back missed that. I've used roof racks but they can be hard to get the bike on and off of and clearance can be a problem. I park my truck in a parking garage during the day and wouldn't be able to get in or out of the garage with the bike on a roof rack. There was a guy around these parts who made a canoe carrier for his MGB. It was something else. I used to have a picture of it somewhere, I'll have to look for it. Not anything I'd want to do to a Spridget though. Thanks, Robert uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > Robert, > > I have used a similar rack - Generic from Pep boys years ago. It > mounts in the trunk or hatch back door. It worked. - It was not as > good as the roof rack or trailer hitch ones. From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 12 16:22:28 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:22:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops In-Reply-To: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> Message-ID: <20080112232242.2FEF5187A05@autox.team.net> Don't these hardtops for the bug-I require different side curtains? Not that I am looking for a hardtop. Crash A factory Bugeye hardtop. http://tinyurl.com/24dqmx From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Jan 12 16:42:12 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:42:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> Message-ID: <014201c85574$c2ad8c60$4808a520$@com> There's the BMC hardtop for Bugeyes, and then there's the Warwick supplied hardtop for Bugeyes. The Warwick tops are taller, but look very similar. I'm sure Frank could add some details. Both of mine are BMC. I'd love to find a Warwick top... I could use the headroom for racing. WST -----Original Message----- From: David Ramsey [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 5:22 PM To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson' Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops Don't these hardtops for the bug-I require different side curtains? Not that I am looking for a hardtop. Crash A factory Bugeye hardtop. http://tinyurl.com/24dqmx From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Jan 12 16:41:12 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:41:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Prop rod question Message-ID: <053201c85574$9daf0740$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Frank, IIRC, the spacer goes through the click stick only. My midget is in winter storage, so I can't check the car now... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: 1/12/2008 9:27:12 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Prop rod question On a later Midget with the click stick to hold up the bonnet, is the hole in the fender and bonnet brackets 1/4" or is it large enough to hold that spacer collar? The hole in the click stick is maybe 3/8, I made the brackets for this stick on the 67 but I noticed the collar fits the hole in the stick, does this collar go through the bracket too? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ . From lists at woozy.com Sat Jan 12 16:48:50 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:48:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: RE:[ncmgcc] For Sale Item] Message-ID: <478951E2.6060908@woozy.com> Forwarding this from our local LBC list in case anyone is interested. I don't know the seller and don't know anything about the engine. Don't know the price or if it is still available. No financial interest, etc. Robert -------- Original Message -------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Jim [mailto:casper1 at sccoast.net] *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2008 11:57 AM *To:* secretary at ncmgcc.org *Subject:* For Sale Item Hey! I've a 74 rebuilt 1275cc MG Midget engine for Sale if anyone needs one. I belong to Charleston.SC and the Wilmington, NC British car clubs. Thanks, Jim No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.0/1216 - Release Date: 1/9/2008 10:16 AM From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 12 17:34:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:34:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy Message-ID: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Last year I lost a loved one to an accident involving a driver on a cell phone. Three months later, my mom's tank of a Mercedes was totaled. The other driver was on a cell phone. In both instances the drivers doing the damage had 20+ years on the road without accidents. Today with my wife and 2 sons in my truck, a 47 yr old woman who'd never previously had an accident plowed into the back of us. As I saw her in the mirror about to cream us, I mentally noted the cellphone in her hand. Her minivan was undriveable, her entire bumper disintegrated and radiator was knocked off the car. Amazingly, the trailer hitch on my car took the impacts, and the only damage to my truck was an interior panel that my knee bashed into. There was little energy absorption by the truck, so we're all quite sore. The van driver didn't feel a thing, as its disintegrating absorbed it all (to my mildly-educated eye, she's got $3000+ damage). She was cited for "inattentive driving". We're all feeling lucky. Anyway, last we discussed this, the majority of us decided we are above average drivers and can drive while on the cell without impairment. Although I know better, I do it myself sometimes, but I will not anymore unless absolutely necessary. You may want to consider the same. Go Pack, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 12 17:45:04 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:45:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I find it difficult to operate a cell phone even when I'm not driving. I'm all in favor of thinning the herd and improving the gene pool, but not when it endangers others. BZ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 12 17:47:53 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:47:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 Message-ID: <013a01c8557d$ee5722a0$6401a8c0@Larry> YEAH, keep up the good work. As WST said in an email after the game, Favre is god. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 17:52:16 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:52:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801121652p55b18eb5n14ddd87769b17a63@mail.gmail.com> Go, Pack, Go. Go Giants, too, so we can play them instead of at Dallas. I try and get cell phones with speakerphone capability. Once you get dialed, you can put it in a holder and talk away. I fell much less impaired when using the speakerphone. So, if you must talk and drive, try a speakerphone or one of those queer Bluetooth headsets. Cheers, Derf From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jan 12 18:10:20 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:10:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 In-Reply-To: <013a01c8557d$ee5722a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20080113011020.VNVL7595.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> That was magic. Bring on the Giants *hopefully* Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:48 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 YEAH, keep up the good work. As WST said in an email after the game, Favre is god. You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jan 12 18:11:40 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:11:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 Message-ID: <20080113011140.VOFW7595.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> That was magic. Bring on the Giants *hopefully* Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:48 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 YEAH, keep up the good work. As WST said in an email after the game, Favre is god. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sat Jan 12 18:11:42 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 17:11:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 References: <013a01c8557d$ee5722a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000c01c85581$42925e90$dd0a6f47@DBKF4T81> And I thought the Pack was very gracious, as well, spotting their weekend guests a couple of touchdowns before the game got started. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 > YEAH, keep up the good work. > > As WST said in an email after the game, Favre is god. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 12 18:38:30 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:38:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 References: <20080113011020.VNVL7595.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <155501c85585$00adca60$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> NOT being a Pack fan, I still have to agree, Chris!! <> Shall we ALL pray, please?!?!?!? I HATE dal. (won't even type the name!!) as I am a life time Redskins fan (and my wife just lost her job due to a corp. decision made in that "city"!!!)!! Dumb A__holes and just like the rest of population of the state (won't even capitalize the word!!!) EXCLUDING Spridgeteers!! From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 12 18:49:39 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:49:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <158901c85586$8fc9ba00$6401a8c0@actualshop> Ron, 1st thank God!!! And I am VERY glad for all of you!! <> There is only ONE number acceptable. 911. Nothing else is that important!!!! If it is "somewhat" "important", pull off the road and STOP!!!! << You may want to consider the same.>> See above!! I NEVER have and never will. PERIOD. I saw enough vehicular mess to last anybody a life time and that was pre-cell phone. <> She would NOT have gotten off that easy had I been the Officer!!! Hand full of other citations she qualified for!! << We're all feeling lucky. >> And so you are. Bumps & bruises are a POC!! Ed From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 12 18:53:55 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:53:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910801121652p55b18eb5n14ddd87769b17a63@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <158f01c85587$284f9830$6401a8c0@actualshop> <<...Once you get dialed, ...>> And WHAT are you NOT doing while operating a motor vehicle, derf?? YOU are NOT "paying full time & attention"!! If I was still an Officer you would get pulled over and cited !! See previous post re Ron! Ed From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 12 19:43:30 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:43:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01c8558e$163d6b20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> WOW! Glad all of you are OK. I've found that offramps work well for me. Haven't been attacked from the rear yet, though. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy > Last year I lost a loved one to an accident involving > a driver on a cell phone. Three months later, my mom's > tank of a Mercedes was totaled. The other driver was > on a cell phone. In both instances the drivers doing > the damage had 20+ years on the road without > accidents. Today with my wife and 2 sons in my truck, > a 47 yr old woman who'd never previously had an > accident plowed into the back of us. As I saw her in > the mirror about to cream us, I mentally noted the > cellphone in her hand. Her minivan was undriveable, > her entire bumper disintegrated and radiator was > knocked off the car. Amazingly, the trailer hitch on > my car took the impacts, and the only damage to my > truck was an interior panel that my knee bashed into. > There was little energy absorption by the truck, so > we're all quite sore. The van driver didn't feel a > thing, as its disintegrating absorbed it all (to my > mildly-educated eye, she's got $3000+ damage). She was > cited for "inattentive driving". We're all feeling > lucky. > > Anyway, last we discussed this, the majority of us > decided we are above average drivers and can drive > while on the cell without impairment. Although I know > better, I do it myself sometimes, but I will not > anymore unless absolutely necessary. You may want to > consider the same. > > Go Pack, > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgrowler at aol.com Sat Jan 12 19:50:06 2008 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:50:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? Message-ID: <8CA23A6238ECB72-E74-2DAC@FWM-D10.sysops.aol.com> Wow! And in case of flood, you can flip the whole thing over and have a canoe with an MG rescue carrier. <<>> ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 20:13:58 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:13:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? Message-ID: Ok, so what is the size of the combustion chamber? I measured 22cc's on the one I have. anyone know if it is stock or has it been massaged? Thanks, Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 12 20:37:02 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:37:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think you have to tell us the size of the engine first. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 20:44:47 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:44:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] parts finish question In-Reply-To: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <4789892F.701@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > Should the Bugeye bonnet locking rods be painted. I know the handle was > chromed. > > How about the door latches, painted or bare? Latches and click rods are cad plated Prop rod stick (in front) is painted black. Rustoleum Matt nickel is a close match to the cad plating. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 20:50:52 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:50:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops In-Reply-To: <014201c85574$c2ad8c60$4808a520$@com> References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> <014201c85574$c2ad8c60$4808a520$@com> Message-ID: <47898A9C.7060907@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > There's the BMC hardtop for Bugeyes, and then there's the Warwick supplied > hardtop for Bugeyes. The Warwick tops are taller, but look very similar. I'm > sure Frank could add some details. The Healey bugeye tops did take a taller side curtain, I do have a pair (NOS) of those curtains, I also had a Healey hardtop all restored and sold it for $500 a few years ago. Like Mike, I used it once and never again. I found a supply of those side curtains manufactured by Baker and bought all he had left, like 12 pair but I have since sold all but 2 pair, 1 I use on my 59 and 1 will be for the 58. I even had tempered glass installed in my side curtains, no more scratched dull plexi. But yes, they are taller by about an inch or so and work perfect with the works hardtop. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jan 12 21:30:45 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:30:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Certainly a valid point.. it's a 948.. well.. hmm.. it's actually bored 2mm over so I'm not sure what the displacement is.. but it started out as a 948.. Lester On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:37 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I think you have to tell us the size of the engine first. > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (2)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you want to unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please > send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > MARKETPLACE > Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an > AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > RECENT ACTIVITY > 5 > New Members > 11 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Y! Sports for TV > Access it for free > Get Fantasy Sports > stats on your TV. > Yahoo! News > Kevin Sites > Get coverage of > world crises. > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > . > > __,_._,___ From lists at woozy.com Sat Jan 12 21:39:01 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:39:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? Message-ID: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED??? http://tinyurl.com/2c3sxm Robert From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 12 22:11:52 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:11:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Calendar Message-ID: <47899D98.1000605@wi.net> We received two calendars Friday as well. Thanks Dave and all those who were involved. After the family saw themselves on the December page, I may get to keep the Bugeye another year! Great work! Thanks, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 22:33:57 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:33:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801122133j360cbdb6k3873f441a49a46be@mail.gmail.com> Guys, All most of us have available are pressure washers at local u-wash car washes, which work for the most part. I have a "Steam-Jenny"...the difference between pressure washing and steam cleaning is dramatic. Best three hundred dollars I've spent. (not new obviously) Herb On Jan 12, 2008 7:05 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I have packing blankets clipped to the lip on both fenders, and the > scuttle. The blankets hang over the fenders, as well as the windscreen and > white top, to prevent "coloring" from any stray bits of debris flying off as > I clean. As far as what is under the bonnet, I am not to terribly concerned > about it, it is a bit of white paint, with the pinkish primer showing > through in many area. I know it won't look "restored" but I will feel > better, putting this new engine inside a clean bay, rather than a filthy > one. Plus, the white paint should make spotting leaks a bit easier. > > On Jan 11, 2008 10:44 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > "Purple Power" Watch the paint! > > > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 12 22:45:59 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:45:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: References: <4787A37A.1084.18A3210@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <4789A597.5010908@wi.net> Larry Macy wrote: > Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge parkway. 4 people, 1 Midget, 1 Yamaha > motorcycle. Camping all the way. Got rained out in Monticello, after > having to swap the alternator in a downpour. 2300 miles, 10 days. Was > a blast. > > Next most memorable was the BABE Rallye with Rob Valentine. THat was a > great ride. The drive home was a killer, again had to replace the alt > on the road, but it all worked out in the end. I unnerstan Rob hit a > deer 5 miles from home after about 2800 miles in 6 days. > > Larry > Congratulations Opa & Nana...Mom and Dad also!! We're still waiting for our first grandchild so send lots of advice! Your trip reminds me of a 1969 Spring Break Madison WI to Ft. Lauderdale run. I had just gotten a new 1968 MGB the previous summer and was wonderfully ignorant of all the negative events that could've occurred. A non-stop 22 1/2 hr. drive down via Chattanooga, 300 miles up and down the Miami environs coast, and a 27 hour drive home.....hey! we were going UP north! Actually I got vertigo trying to ascend/descend Lookout Mt. near Chattanooga in the infamous fog at night. A semi passed and signaled for me to follow him...saved our hides as there was no where to pull off. I know how John John must have felt before he went in, as I did not know what was up and what was down. We got a few hours rest in a park in Chattanooga. I ended up sleeping with my left leg wrapped over the steering column (the ability of being that flexible has long since disappeared). The "B" never skipped a beat and used only a 1/2 a quart of oil! I changed it when we got down there and again when we got back. I also changed the diff fluid as I figured it may have gotten a tad warm at the constant 70mph speeds. What a trip! Maybe I should try it in the "A"! Good memories (most of them). We did meet a Fiat 500 that passed me in a tunnel in Ft. Lauderdale. It suddenly swerved right and scraped down the guard rail at 50 mph. We stopped and here was a guy in the back seat area, straddling a 389c.i. engine holding a steering column that had come adrift! I'll never forget what he said, "....guess I shoulda used a bolt on the steering shaft instead of a bent NAIL!" I always wondered what became of that guy. True story! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI WAY TO GO PACKERS!!!! The legend grows. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 22:56:54 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:56:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> References: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801122156h6e1886d9j3d23c741f7c1026f@mail.gmail.com> For 23k$'s, you think they would have re-chromed the shift-lever! And what's with the 4" lift kit??? Herb Nice car.... From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 12 22:57:58 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:57:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] parts finish question In-Reply-To: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <002a01c8555c$d600ada0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <4789A866.3030408@wi.net> Phil Nase wrote: > Should the Bugeye bonnet locking rods be painted. I know the handle was > chromed. > > How about the door latches, painted or bare? > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > > Phil, From everything I've been able to read, observe, and even ask Terry Horler, the male part of the door latches were painted body color, the latch mechanism box in the door was cad plated. The bonnet locking rods were cad plated and the support rod and "keeper" were painted semi-gloss black. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 12 23:13:21 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:13:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4789AC01.9000103@wi.net> Holy cow! Glad you guys are mostly OK!! I won't even go the tirade I reserve for cell/drivers, having had 3 close calls ourselves. I've preached to my daughter and hopefully she is a smart user but some of her friends are text-ing while they drive so she probably does too; I hope not but I'm realistic. I find myself looking at the driver of on-coming cars and the orientation of the front wheels as well as possible escape routes (After several near misses and a few hits one gets paranoid). All the best to the family and hoping there's no lingering effects. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Ron Soave wrote: > Last year I lost a loved one to an accident involving > a driver on a cell phone. Three months later, my mom's > tank of a Mercedes was totaled. The other driver was > on a cell phone. In both instances the drivers doing > the damage had 20+ years on the road without > accidents. Today with my wife and 2 sons in my truck, > a 47 yr old woman who'd never previously had an > accident plowed into the back of us. As I saw her in > the mirror about to cream us, I mentally noted the > cellphone in her hand. Her minivan was undriveable, > her entire bumper disintegrated and radiator was > knocked off the car. Amazingly, the trailer hitch on > my car took the impacts, and the only damage to my > truck was an interior panel that my knee bashed into. > There was little energy absorption by the truck, so > we're all quite sore. The van driver didn't feel a > thing, as its disintegrating absorbed it all (to my > mildly-educated eye, she's got $3000+ damage). She was > cited for "inattentive driving". We're all feeling > lucky. > > Anyway, last we discussed this, the majority of us > decided we are above average drivers and can drive > while on the cell without impairment. Although I know > better, I do it myself sometimes, but I will not > anymore unless absolutely necessary. You may want to > consider the same. > > Go Pack, > Ron From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 12 23:35:01 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:35:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: <005b01c8558e$163d6b20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005b01c8558e$163d6b20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <1507598077.20080112223501@pacifier.com> Hello, In the GREAT State of Washington, it is now a crime for teens to use hand held cell phones while driving.. starting July 1, it will be a crime for ANYONE. While they won't be able to pull you over JUST for that, if you're caught doing something else, the FINE is a rather large addition. (That's the way unfastened seat belts USED to be. Now they can pull you over if they see you OR your passenger unbelted. [the passenger pays their own fine, unless underage]. I don't forsee it being too long before they can pull you over if they see ya. Hands free sets are OK, BUT ... it is a crime to be driving while wearing headphones. .. don't know if that covers HEADSETS, ala bluetooth... .. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite If you're happy and you know it see a shrink. From dwramsey at att.net Sun Jan 13 00:54:34 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 23:54:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pack 42; Seattle 20 In-Reply-To: <013a01c8557d$ee5722a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20080113075451.A5F5C1879D9@autox.team.net> Well, he's old enough to be. Crash YEAH, keep up the good work. As WST said in an email after the game, Favre is god. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 13 01:18:31 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:18:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? Message-ID: Stock Spridget 1275's were 21.4cc's. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:13 PM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? Ok, so what is the size of the combustion chamber? I measured 22cc's on the one I have. anyone know if it is stock or has it been massaged? Thanks, Lester You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jan 13 01:50:34 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:50:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops In-Reply-To: <123301c8556f$39857ec0$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com><12210a30c9ca2d528a28ca4a.20080112132152.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <123301c8556f$39857ec0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <1c390a4bf3ca468e8a3f804a.20080113005034.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> If someone wants to wait until the Sprite Gathering in the Ozarks for delivery, I'd be up for that, but after all I went through with numbnuts in Huntington Beach over this thing I can't go lower. Mike shop at justbrits.com > <> > > You mean you don't get a "road" discount, Mike????? > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jan 13 01:59:40 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:59:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> References: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> Message-ID: <272e0a69708a61f30a58278a.20080113005940.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Cheaper than chrome plating these days. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED??? > > http://tinyurl.com/2c3sxm > > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jan 13 02:13:31 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:13:31 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><005b01c8558e$163d6b20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <1507598077.20080112223501@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <006c01c855c4$91982f40$f28e9751@tairswork> We've already gone down the legislative route in the UK over driving and using mobiles (cell phones) and we can use earpiece Bluetooth or loudspeaker systems legally whilst driving. Whilst this is better than using the phone itself, the fact is that driver concentration is taken away from the task in hand - driving - whilst using any such system. UK driving is a tad more concentration centred than USA driving (we're squashed up more) and there is a definite problem. However, having a law does not mean any-one obeys it ! The sight of drivers with their hand / phone to their ear is common and even drivers of the more expensive cars with built in Bluetooth abilities will not use it and can be seen with their phone held to their ear. You then get the problem of two handed texting whilst driving and the driver looking at the phone held in the middle of the steering wheel instead of the road. Over here, texting is either free or very cheap and young ladies utilise this facility ever second of the day. It is lethal. Cell phone providers can be asked or be given a Court Order to say if a phone was in use at any one time and are obliged to keep records of mobile use and there has been European legislation drafted (or perhaps now in force) for the cell phone providers to keep records of times, who a call is between and which 'phone masts were used for a number of years. They will charge anywhere from $50 to $120 for this information and it must be a nice little earner for them. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy > Hello, > > In the GREAT State of Washington, it is now a crime for teens > to use hand held cell phones while driving.. starting July 1, > it will be a crime for ANYONE. While they won't be able to pull > you over JUST for that, if you're caught doing something else, > the FINE is a rather large addition. (That's the way unfastened > seat belts USED to be. Now they can pull you over if they see > you OR your passenger unbelted. [the passenger pays their own > fine, unless underage]. I don't forsee it being too long before > they can pull you over if they see ya. > > Hands free sets are OK, BUT ... it is a crime to be driving > while wearing headphones. .. don't know if that covers > HEADSETS, ala bluetooth... .. > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > If you're happy and you know it see a shrink. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 13 02:48:04 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 04:48:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy Message-ID: me too. I rarely use one and loathe them. Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 00:45:14 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: I find it difficult to operate a cell phone From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 13 02:57:39 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:57:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy Message-ID: I carry one for emergency outgoing use with the exception of 3 good friends who know the number as their last resort. Otherwise, the land-line for me and always screened by an answering device with respect to personal incoming, my home being my castle. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From lists at woozy.com Sun Jan 13 06:15:25 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:15:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801122156h6e1886d9j3d23c741f7c1026f@mail.gmail.com> References: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> <2ad6c6b10801122156h6e1886d9j3d23c741f7c1026f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <478A0EED.7040307@woozy.com> It is sitting a little high, isn't it? ;-) They have a beautiful 55 T-Bird for sale that really makes me wish I were a rich man: http://tinyurl.com/2uajkz Looking at that stable of cars makes me wonder what kind of money they've got tied up in restored classics. It's a pretty impressive collection. If I ever find myself in St. Louis I'd like to check out their operation. Robert WFO Herb wrote: > For 23k$'s, you think they would have re-chromed the shift-lever! > And what's with the 4" lift kit??? > Herb > > Nice car.... From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 06:18:50 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 05:18:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801120442n1cfd7eecnab72a80fd917cd0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <539227.10061.qm@web36809.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Still gives me the willies thinking about it!" Drove my hotrod '67 Mustang down there from college during spring break with a couple of buddies in maybe 1978 or so. Slept in the car, on the beach or wherever the party died. Don't remember seing any gay people, but don't remember much else either. Entire trip from Cookeville Tennessee to Key West and back with maybe $75 in our collective pockets and my newly acquired Shell gas card. That was the first of my great road trips... - David --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 08:00:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:00:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure washing In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801122133j360cbdb6k3873f441a49a46be@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801122133j360cbdb6k3873f441a49a46be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801130700w6c3ce755kf4921b3a7125e30@mail.gmail.com> Steam cleaning rocks. For those that have never tried it, if you have a truck stop or truck service outfit or even a truck wash locally available, they probably have a steam cleaner and you can make arangements to use it. Some car washes even have them. Watch yer butt, though!! You can burn the living $hit out of yourself with steam!! Don't ask. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/12/08, WFO Herb wrote: > > Guys, > > All most of us have available are pressure washers at local u-wash car > washes, which work for the most part. > > I have a "Steam-Jenny"...the difference between pressure washing and steam > cleaning is dramatic. > > Best three hundred dollars I've spent. (not new obviously) > > Herb > > On Jan 12, 2008 7:05 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > I have packing blankets clipped to the lip on both fenders, and the > > scuttle. The blankets hang over the fenders, as well as the windscreen > and > > white top, to prevent "coloring" from any stray bits of debris flying > off as > > I clean. As far as what is under the bonnet, I am not to terribly > concerned > > about it, it is a bit of white paint, with the pinkish primer showing > > through in many area. I know it won't look "restored" but I will feel > > better, putting this new engine inside a clean bay, rather than a filthy > > one. Plus, the white paint should make spotting leaks a bit easier. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 08:11:37 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:11:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] a tale of 2 hardtops In-Reply-To: <1c390a4bf3ca468e8a3f804a.20080113005034.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <00fc01c8555e$8ba17440$a2e45cc0$@com> <12210a30c9ca2d528a28ca4a.20080112132152.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <123301c8556f$39857ec0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <1c390a4bf3ca468e8a3f804a.20080113005034.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801130711y494e9b0ch16ea223a18525948@mail.gmail.com> Hell mike, bring it along and set it in the lobby with a for sale sign. There will be plenty of vendor space at the event and any other swap bits or stuff for sale should be easily accommodated so the same goes for everyone else, too! Cheers!! Jim On 1/13/08, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > If someone wants to wait until the Sprite Gathering in the Ozarks for > delivery, I'd be up for that, but after all I went through with numbnuts > in Huntington Beach over this thing I can't go lower. > Mike > > > shop at justbrits.com > > <> > > > > You mean you don't get a "road" discount, Mike????? > > > > Frank From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 08:21:40 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:21:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801130721l412727ebq58ddc4aff107b723@mail.gmail.com> I simply turn it off when I get into the car or onto the motorcycle. No need to be a militant Ludite when a little planning will suffice. If the wife and I are traveling together the passanger has both our phones turned on and is free to answer or text. Afterall, cell phones have a free answering system so its not like I'm going to miss a call. When I get out of the vehicle, I turn it on and look for any missed calls and messages. I also have a bumper sticker that says "Hang Up And Drive!!" -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 08:38:55 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:38:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Pressure washing In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801130700w6c3ce755kf4921b3a7125e30@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10801122133j360cbdb6k3873f441a49a46be@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0801130700w6c3ce755kf4921b3a7125e30@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm fortunate enough to have the company pressure washer for a few weeks, if needed. On Jan 13, 2008 9:00 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Steam cleaning rocks. For those that have never tried it, if you have a > truck stop or truck service outfit or even a truck wash locally available, > they probably have a steam cleaner and you can make arangements to use it. > Some car washes even have them. Watch yer butt, though!! You can burn the > living $hit out of yourself with steam!! Don't ask. > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > For info and registration... > > On 1/12/08, WFO Herb wrote: > > > > Guys, > > > > All most of us have available are pressure washers at local u-wash car > > washes, which work for the most part. > > > > I have a "Steam-Jenny"...the difference between pressure washing and > steam > > cleaning is dramatic. > > > > Best three hundred dollars I've spent. (not new obviously) > > > > Herb > > > > On Jan 12, 2008 7:05 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > > I have packing blankets clipped to the lip on both fenders, and the > > > scuttle. The blankets hang over the fenders, as well as the windscreen > > and > > > white top, to prevent "coloring" from any stray bits of debris flying > > off as > > > I clean. As far as what is under the bonnet, I am not to terribly > > concerned > > > about it, it is a bit of white paint, with the pinkish primer showing > > > through in many area. I know it won't look "restored" but I will feel > > > better, putting this new engine inside a clean bay, rather than a > filthy > > > one. Plus, the white paint should make spotting leaks a bit easier. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 08:54:55 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:54:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? References: <8CA23A6238ECB72-E74-2DAC@FWM-D10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <017401c855fc$a4b8c070$0401a8c0@midget> > << carrier > mentioned below: > > http://woozy.com/midget/lbc_canoe_carrier/>>> Back when I had an MGB, I had a roll bar in it. By acquiring one of those sets of four foam blocks that are supposed to clip onto the gunwales of the canoe and clipping them onto the top of the windshield and the top of the roll bar, I could them set the canoe rightside up on top of the blocks, tie it down to the shipping eyes and drive away. Got a lot of strange looks... David Lieb From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jan 13 08:58:04 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:58:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning Message-ID: It is simple to run garden hoses from the nearest sink to supply a power washer with hot but not steamy water. The fitting required is available in any hardware store. Would the improvement over cold water be enough to justify the hassle? Is the $80-$100 expense of a small power washer worth the improvement over cold water from a garden nozzle? Just how hard is it to get a greasy surface clean enough to paint? Never tried it. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 09:02:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:02:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4789AC01.9000103@wi.net> Message-ID: <018e01c855fd$c5437b40$0401a8c0@midget> But it is like drunk driving... the drunk seldom gets the worst of it. We should ALL be on our cell phones 24/7 so we aren't the ones injured. Obviously, folks, I am merely displaying a sick sense of humour and not seriously advocating any such course of action. How many of us are old enough to remember all the same arguments regarding listening to the radio in the car? I am not trying to excuse cell phones, I prefer their absence myself, but I imagine that stats on per-equipped-vehicle woulkd show some interesting things about GPS devices as well. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 09:13:48 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:13:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? References: <478995E5.4050704@woozy.com> Message-ID: <01b301c855ff$48013800$0401a8c0@midget> > Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED??? I imagine that they were attempting to emulate some of the effect of the paint-job on the Gulf Porsches or even on some of the green and yellow Loti. I don't think he succeeded. A guy in my local Miata club had an early Miata that he painted the Gulf Porsche colour scheme. UGGGH!!! From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jan 13 09:22:29 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:22:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: Message-ID: <002f01c85600$7e5e30f0$6401a8c0@personal> Me too, wife, grandkids, son and one friend. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer" To: ; ; ; Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:57 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy >I carry one for emergency outgoing use with the exception of 3 good friends >who know the number as their last resort. > > Otherwise, the land-line for me and always screened by an answering device > with > respect to personal incoming, my home > being my castle. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1220 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 > 6:09 PM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 13 09:54:30 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:54:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Pressure washing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > the company pressure washer for a few weeks Just keep in mind that engines and transmissions are NOT waterproof when sprayed with 2000psi. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 10:07:01 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:07:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <797328.7623.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> New Question - I found a head in the back of my garage. i know from the casting it is from a 948cc "A" Motor from a Morris vehicle. Ok - Here is my question. Is there a chart or a formula to figure the CC of the head? The head is not on a motor. I have got a ruff figure on another head by using liquid. Then cranked the motor with and old towel over the head to catch the fluid. I was only gas so i could have just fired the motor. I figured it may cause problem so i used the towel method. I am assuming you take a flat and messure to the bottom. How do you figure in the curves or round edges to get your number. Vigil "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: Stock Spridget 1275's were 21.4cc's. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:13 PM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? Ok, so what is the size of the combustion chamber? I measured 22cc's on the one I have. anyone know if it is stock or has it been massaged? Thanks, Lester You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 10:15:10 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:15:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <797328.7623.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <797328.7623.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <73E6106B-2ED7-4AB5-96A9-D5585F454B42@comcast.net> I turned the head upside down, and used a pipette to run in a volume of water until the chamber is full. Not perfect I know as you are supposed to place some plexi or glass on the cylinder head to give the water a place to stop. But it's close enough.. Lester On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:07 AM, wrote: > New Question - I found a head in the back of my garage. i know from > the casting it is from a 948cc "A" Motor from a Morris vehicle. Ok - > Here is my question. Is there a chart or a formula to figure the CC > of the head? The head is not on a motor. I have got a ruff figure on > another head by using liquid. Then cranked the motor with and old > towel over the head to catch the fluid. I was only gas so i could > have just fired the motor. I figured it may cause problem so i used > the towel method. I am assuming you take a flat and messure to the > bottom. How do you figure in the curves or round edges to get your > number. > > Vigil > "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: Stock Spridget > 1275's were 21.4cc's. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:13 PM > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets net > Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? > > Ok, so what is the size of the combustion chamber? I measured 22cc's > on the one I have. anyone know if it is stock or has it been massaged? > > Thanks, > > Lester From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 10:25:47 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:25:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <272e0a69708a61f30a58278a.20080113005940.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <415345.51326.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am not sure i agree with you. I have been working on a Chevy with my son. A lot of the chrome parts are cheaper the the painted ones. I wanted a normal Alternator. But went with chrome because it was $15 cheaper. - Yes if you go to have some thing you already have chromed it is more expensive. But in a lot of different reproduction parts the chrome is cheaper. I know it does not seem right to me either. The only thing i can figure is they sell more of the chrome reproduction items so they buy more dropping the price. I am not saying this is all parts. But i have started to notice more all the time. Vigil rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: Cheaper than chrome plating these days. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED??? > > http://tinyurl.com/2c3sxm > > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 10:27:39 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:27:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm only 5 feet from the washers hot water supply, but like you, I don't see that it would make that dramatic a difference. Plus, the wife is doing laundry today... On Jan 13, 2008 9:58 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > It is simple to run garden hoses from the nearest sink to supply a power > washer with hot but not steamy water. The fitting required is available in > any hardware store. Would the improvement over cold water be enough to > justify the hassle? Is the $80-$100 expense of a small power washer worth > the improvement over cold water from a garden nozzle? Just how hard is it > to get a greasy surface clean enough to paint? Never tried it. > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 10:39:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:39:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <002f01c85600$7e5e30f0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <01bb01c8560b$36507290$0401a8c0@midget> >> Otherwise, the land-line for me and always screened by an answering >> device >> with respect to personal incoming, my home being my castle. Likewise. My cell is tied to my work voicemail. It sounds like a ball and chain, but in reality it means that I do not need to give anyone my cell number (I have come to regret most of the exceptions), I just give them my work phone and have them leave a message. My normal number only calls me from 7am to 7pm, but I have another number which will notify me 24/7. I get very few non-voice-mail calls on my cell. I personally do not see a justification for differentiating between handheld and speaker calls. I thinkthe only differentiation is funded by services like On-Star whose sales could be hurt otherwise. David Lieb From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jan 13 11:04:13 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:04:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning References: Message-ID: <022701c8560e$b474e630$6501a8c0@refisk> 140 degree water makes enough of a dramatic difference to me to make it worthwhile. IMHO grease and grime dissolve much more quickly and thoroughly with hot water. Try it - you'll like it. Remind Martha that Monday is supposed to be wash day. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Michael Rowe" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning > I'm only 5 feet from the washers hot water supply, but like you, I don't > see > that it would make that dramatic a difference. > Plus, the wife is doing laundry today... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 11:05:03 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:05:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801131005y56187980nd607c404bb43593b@mail.gmail.com> Hmmmm..... My experience is that it makes a huge difference. The hotter the better. Everything I have ever pressure washed with cold water has left behind a greasy, oily film. Subject it to HOT pressure wash and it comes quite clean but still a little oil/grease here and there. Steam (which is hotter than boiling water) gets it even cleaner. It only leaves oil/grease in a few nooks and crannies. Just my $.02 Cheers!! Jim On Jan 13, 2008 11:27 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I'm only 5 feet from the washers hot water supply, but like you, I don't > see > that it would make that dramatic a difference. > Plus, the wife is doing laundry today... > > On Jan 13, 2008 9:58 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > > It is simple to run garden hoses from the nearest sink to supply a power > > washer with hot but not steamy water. The fitting required is available > in > > any hardware store. Would the improvement over cold water be enough to > > justify the hassle? Is the $80-$100 expense of a small power washer > worth > > the improvement over cold water from a garden nozzle? Just how hard is > it > > to get a greasy surface clean enough to paint? Never tried it. > > > > Michael Rowe > > Long Island, NY > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 11:07:00 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:07:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars Message-ID: <43840a7e0801131007n1b8f8bfch8f225d03e81203a4@mail.gmail.com> I finally got mine late yesterday and it is indeed beautifully done and top quality. Many thanks again to David Lieb and Larry Daniels!! If you want a great Spridget calendar for 2008, this is the one! http://www.cafepress.com/spridget.199705866 -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 11:12:13 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:12:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy In-Reply-To: <018e01c855fd$c5437b40$0401a8c0@midget> References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4789AC01.9000103@wi.net> <018e01c855fd$c5437b40$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801131012k2515739pe86db3b02dd6f753@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 13, 2008 10:02 AM, David Lieb wrote: > But it is like drunk driving... the drunk seldom gets the worst of it. We > should ALL be on our cell phones 24/7 so we aren't the ones injured. Hey... How about driving drunk AND talking on a cell phone... ;-) Add a CD player and a WIFI laptop on the passenger seat plus eating a burger to this senario and you are statistically dead the moment you turn the ignition switch..... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 11:26:55 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:26:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning In-Reply-To: <022701c8560e$b474e630$6501a8c0@refisk> References: <022701c8560e$b474e630$6501a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: While you may make a valid point, since I have been getting a bit of spray in the face, DUE to the nooks and crannys, 140 degree water doesn't seem like such a hot idea... Yeah, the pun was intended. I just keep treating it with Super Clean. I have seen some oily spots left over, but I bet the next treatment will knock it off. Brad On Jan 13, 2008 12:04 PM, Rick Fisk wrote: > 140 degree water makes enough of a dramatic difference to me to make it > worthwhile. IMHO grease and grime dissolve much more quickly and > thoroughly > with hot water. Try it - you'll like it. > > Remind Martha that Monday is supposed to be wash day. :-) > > Rick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Michael Rowe" > Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steam cleaning > > > > I'm only 5 feet from the washers hot water supply, but like you, I don't > > see > > that it would make that dramatic a difference. > > Plus, the wife is doing laundry today... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 11:28:49 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:28:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <415345.51326.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <989778.32164.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED???" Is it just me or does anybody else see a bit of Donald Duck (or maybe Daffy) with this paint scheme? Not very flattering to me, but who am I to judge. I look back at some of the colors and stripes I painted on cars 30 years ago and cringe just a little. Still looks like a duck, though. - David --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 11:39:39 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:39:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <01b301c855ff$48013800$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <722229.77986.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED???" Is it just me or does anybody else see a bit of Donald Duck (or maybe Daffy) with this paint scheme? Not very flattering to me, but who am I to judge. I look back at some of the colors and stripes I painted on cars 30 years ago and cringe just a little. Still looks like a duck, though. - David --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 11:48:46 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:48:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT cell phones, a little preachy References: <993007.93297.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4789AC01.9000103@wi.net> <018e01c855fd$c5437b40$0401a8c0@midget> <43840a7e0801131012k2515739pe86db3b02dd6f753@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01d101c85614$f0513e50$0401a8c0@midget> > Hey... How about driving drunk AND talking on a cell phone... ;-) > Add > a CD player and a WIFI laptop on the passenger seat plus eating a burger > to > this scenario and you are statistically dead the moment you turn the > ignition > switch..... Jim, You missed my point. SOMEONE ELSE is statistically dead the moment my car starts moving under those circumstances. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sun Jan 13 12:03:26 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:03:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) Message-ID: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house on its feet, what can you say? I'm still blissed out. Glen Byrns From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jan 13 12:07:16 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:07:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <722229.77986.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <722229.77986.qm@web36811.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EABB4894CAB4593B69D787EE76FA4AC@Home> > " Why would anybody do all this work and then paint the grille RED???"> > Still looks like a duck, though. Actually, it looks like Jar-Jar Binks from Star Wars. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 12:17:24 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:17:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) References: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <029101c85618$ee29cda0$6401a8c0@Larry> You lucky dawg. He is going to be 20 miles from me in one month, but it sold out before I knew about it. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house on its feet, what can you say? I'm still blissed out. Glen Byrns _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 12:28:30 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:28:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: <029101c85618$ee29cda0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> <029101c85618$ee29cda0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801131128v44003c14v711a6dca1766c3b4@mail.gmail.com> Wow... I had no idea. I saw him a number of times back in the 60s when I was on the folk music circuit. Even was on the same stage with him a few times and opened his shows once or twice in England. A lot of the time we played to empty houses. Whodda thunk it?! I will add that if you get a chance to see Taj Mahal or Keb Mo you should also do so. Some guy named "Zoom" is rumored to be pretty good on a guitar too...... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/13/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > You lucky dawg. He is going to be 20 miles from me in one month, but it > sold out before I knew about it. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Byrns" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:03 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) > > > Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two > tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 > rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it > out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house > on its feet, what can you say? > > I'm still blissed out. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 12:48:12 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:48:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) References: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> <029101c85618$ee29cda0$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0801131128v44003c14v711a6dca1766c3b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02a001c8561d$3b42e820$6401a8c0@Larry> I've seen Taj Mahal and Keb Mo. Every year my brothers and I go to the Chicago Auto Show and usually stop at Buddy Guy's Legends club after the show. The auto show starts the second weekend in February and Buddy usually plays quite a bit at his club in January, but not that much the rest of the year. So, I haven't seen him play at Legends, although, I did catch him with Jonny Lang last year in Green Bay. Great show. If you get a chance to see him, do it. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net ; Glen Byrns Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) Wow... I had no idea. I saw him a number of times back in the 60s when I was on the folk music circuit. Even was on the same stage with him a few times and opened his shows once or twice in England. A lot of the time we played to empty houses. Whodda thunk it?! I will add that if you get a chance to see Taj Mahal or Keb Mo you should also do so. Some guy named "Zoom" is rumored to be pretty good on a guitar too...... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/13/08, Larry Daniels < ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: You lucky dawg. He is going to be 20 miles from me in one month, but it sold out before I knew about it. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: < spridgets at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house on its feet, what can you say? I'm still blissed out. Glen Byrns _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 12:57:39 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 11:57:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801131128v44003c14v711a6dca1766c3b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <611742.37499.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "I saw him a number of times back in the 60s when I was on the folk music circuit. Even was on the same stage with him a few times and opened his shows once or twice in England. " I'm about half way through Eric Clapton's autobiography right now (excellent reading, by the way) and he has mentioned BB a few times in the text - always with words of praise and admiration. I saw BB a few years ago in Nashville and was absolutely blown away. I play a CD or two from both of them at least once a week. One of my favorite CD's now is "Riding with the King" which features them both. - David Jim Johnson wrote: A lot of the time we played to empty houses. Whodda thunk it?! I will add that if you get a chance to see Taj Mahal or Keb Mo you should also do so. Some guy named "Zoom" is rumored to be pretty good on a guitar too...... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/13/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > You lucky dawg. He is going to be 20 miles from me in one month, but it > sold out before I knew about it. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Byrns" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 1:03 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) > > > Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two > tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 > rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it > out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house > on its feet, what can you say? > > I'm still blissed out. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 13:27:17 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:27:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point Message-ID: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> What most people seem to miss or do not want to understand is, "drivers who use hands free cell phones are equally likely to get into car accidents as are drivers who do not (use hands free cell phones)." Check out http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1592 There are other studies about this affect. The thing that puts us at risk seems to be the cell phone conversation itself not the handheld vs. handsfree. That would imply that all the laws will not make us safer and the only reason that they are passing laws is to make us think we are safer and so we be live that the people in the capital are doing their jobs. Sort of like a federal carjacking law. I have been punted from behind by a guy on a cell phone. Sometimes I use a cell phone in the car, it is a Windows Mobile 6.0 phone, with a blue tooth headset and Voice Command dialing. Guilty as charged, but I don't spend a lot time on the phone. All that said, I am not sure what is the solution. But to find one we have to know what is the problem. -g From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 13:29:22 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:29:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Message-ID: <02af01c85622$fbb63bc0$6401a8c0@Larry> I got my Road America schedule fridge magnet in the mail ths week and was mentally checking off the races I want to attend this year. When I got to the Kohler Int'l Challenge, I wondered what ever happened regarding that monumental f___-up on the start of the heavy metal race a couple of years ago. Did anybody ever get the "official" blame? Was any punishment meted out? Also, isn't there something a bit distasteful about naming one of the country's top vintage races involving many million-dollar-plus cars after a toilet? Can we go back to calling it the Brian Redmond Int'l Challenge -- or, better yet, the Chicago Historic Races? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 13 13:34:36 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:34:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Message-ID: Is this looking to blame unpaid volunteer officials or a not for profit making car club or someone else? Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 20:30:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Did anybody ever get the "official" blame? Was any punishment meted out? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 13:34:23 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars References: Message-ID: <02bc01c85623$af7fede0$6401a8c0@Larry> Howard, do you use a spam filter? I was having problems not getting autox.team.net posts, as well. Turns out my spam filter started eating them. I just had the filter forward all messages with [spridgets] in the subject line to the inbox. That cured it. Of course, do the same with other lists using the autox.team.net system. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: miniac7 at aol.com To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars Why am I not getting email through _spridgets at autox.team.net_ (mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net) ? All recent email traffic has been coming to me only via _midgetsprit at yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:midgetsprit at yahoogroups.com) Howard Collins **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you want to unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. MARKETPLACE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, BS, MS degree - College-Finder.net. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 4New Members b.. 14New Photos Visit Your Group Health Zone Look your best! Groups to help you look & feel great. Yahoo! News Fashion News What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. . __,_._,___ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 13 13:35:42 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:35:42 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system Message-ID: Hi List, Any bright ideas on this one? I have a Lucas DM series electronic distributor on my carbs engine with a combined coil and ignition pack. Ibve recently fitted a new coil HT lead and the distributor cap and rotor arm have less than 10,000 miles on them. The car starts first time and runs great for about 10 minutes and then completely cuts out. After doing nothing for a few minutes the engine will start first time and run for an hour or longer with no problem whatsoever. The engine is new and being run in so I have no idea of what rpm ignition performance is like but I donbt suspect the coil is at fault. I donbt suspect the ignition system is at fault as when the previous unit failed it never cut out but suffered instead, high rpm rough running. Itbs possible the distributor pick up might be failing but I donbt understand why there is such a seemingly perfect recovery after an absolute failure. Any ideas or how I can check things with just a basicmultimeter? Regards Weslake1330 From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jan 13 13:36:14 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:36:14 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars Message-ID: "Why no spridgets at autox.team.net mail?" I am not knowing....very strange.... .....did you recently change brands of tootpaste and/or deoderant, Howard? Or, just begin using same? :) Time to visit your groups at autox via links provided at bottom of previous autox mails? Maybe you've had bounces and your account has been temp. de-activated until you visit your groups @ autox and "re-set"? CapBob From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 13:37:34 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:37:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point References: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ef01c85624$20ea3350$0401a8c0@midget> > The thing that puts us at risk seems to be the cell phone > conversation itself not the handheld vs. handsfree. I agree 100%. I will also maintain that some people are more capable of safely holding a conversation while driving than others. However, the more time one spends doing both simultaneously, the higher the chance of having the law of averages catch up to us. How many of us are innocent of having caused a cell-phone-related accident more by luck than skill? I guess we are better than the average bear simply because it is difficult to conduct a meaningful conversation in a top-down Spridget ;-) Thanks to Ron, I am making the conscious decision to minimize my cell usage while driving. I would like to think I do not HAVE to make all the mistakes in life myself (although I think I have made a substantial dent in them). David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 13:39:45 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:39:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: Message-ID: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what happened and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no crime there. If there is, too bad. BTW, who is Weslake 1330? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Is this looking to blame unpaid volunteer officials or a not for profit making car club or someone else? Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 20:30:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Did anybody ever get the "official" blame? Was any punishment meted out? From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 13 13:45:34 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:45:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point In-Reply-To: <01ef01c85624$20ea3350$0401a8c0@midget> References: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> <01ef01c85624$20ea3350$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <005701c85625$40f44c70$c2dce550$@com> Don't s'pose anyone criticizing cell phone using drivers are smokers, are they? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:38 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point > The thing that puts us at risk seems to be the cell phone > conversation itself not the handheld vs. handsfree. I agree 100%. I will also maintain that some people are more capable of safely holding a conversation while driving than others. However, the more time one spends doing both simultaneously, the higher the chance of having the law of averages catch up to us. How many of us are innocent of having caused a cell-phone-related accident more by luck than skill? I guess we are better than the average bear simply because it is difficult to conduct a meaningful conversation in a top-down Spridget ;-) Thanks to Ron, I am making the conscious decision to minimize my cell usage while driving. I would like to think I do not HAVE to make all the mistakes in life myself (although I think I have made a substantial dent in them). David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 13:46:11 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:46:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system References: Message-ID: <01f501c85625$54e98d30$0401a8c0@midget> > I have a Lucas DM series electronic distributor on my car's engine with a > combined coil and ignition pack. I've recently fitted a new coil HT > lead > and the distributor cap and rotor arm have less than 10,000 miles on > them. > The car starts first time and runs great for about 10 minutes and then > completely cuts out. After doing nothing for a few minutes the engine > will > start first time and run for an hour or longer with no problem > whatsoever. > The engine is new and being run in so I have no idea of what rpm ignition > performance is like but I don't suspect the coil is at fault. I don't > suspect the ignition system is at fault as when the previous unit failed > it never > cut out but suffered instead, high rpm rough running. > It's possible the distributor pick up might be failing but I don't > understand why there is such a seemingly perfect recovery after an > absolute > failure. I have had a distributor pickup in my 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 fail exactly in this manner. It is a temperature-related failure. Please realize that when it dies completely (as it probably will eventually), the car is dead unless you have a spare dizzy with you. I got lucky with mine. I was still trying to figure out the cause (difficult to do when I had roughly 2 minutes to diagnose it each time) when it did it twice in rush hour traffic in the Chicago Loop section of the Kennedy Expressway (misnomer if ever there was). Fortuantely, the first time was just as the shoulder was about to disappear and the second was just when the shoulder re-appeared. Thank goodness! I did make it home and the next morning, in my very own driveway, the thing refused to start at all. Better to be lucky than good. Anyhow, as far as diagnosis, I would say that, if the tach falls immediately to 0, it is in the dizzy. If it keeps a reading while the engine is still turning, it is most likely to be the coil. Please note that I have made no Lucas jokes whatsoever. The effort is killing me. David Lieb From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 13 13:42:41 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:42:41 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point Message-ID: That's an interesting point and I''ll add the following observations. If I'm driving quickly in my car with a passenger or in a real quick car (not my Sprite) with a passenger I can generally maintain a conversation on quite difficult roads. However, at particular demanding aspects of the drive - junction ahead, overtaking manouvere on a short stretch of straight road I will automatically cease to talk and then start talking again once whatever caused me to stop talking has been passed or negotiated. Second example is when I've been a passenger (quite often) with a pro racing driving in a really fast road or racing car (eg: British touring car driver in a GT40, rally driver in a rally car) where they will talk most of the time but often cease to talk mid sentence mid corner and then after the corner carry on talking. What do people with a cell phone do? Are they so stupid that they don't realise they need to cease talking and concentrate on driving for a moment? Or are they concentrating so much on their conversation they don't realise they need to concentrate on driving for a moment? Weslake1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 20:27:42 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: The thing that puts us at risk seems to be the cell phone conversation itself not the handheld vs. handsfree From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 13:49:25 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:49:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> > "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what > happened > and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no > crime > there. If there is, too bad. > > BTW, who is Weslake 1330? I dunno, some Enlish bloke whose engine used to displace 1312cc and now put some kind of Weslake device on his new engine whose displacement had gone up to 1330cc... I think Burt Levy's article in Classic Motorsports summed it up quite well. It was not the fault of one single factor, but rather the result of many combined stupidities. So long as it does not happen again... David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 13:50:14 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:50:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point References: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> <01ef01c85624$20ea3350$0401a8c0@midget> <005701c85625$40f44c70$c2dce550$@com> Message-ID: <020101c85625$e5cc4f90$0401a8c0@midget> > Don't s'pose anyone criticizing cell phone using drivers are smokers, are > they? Not me. Never did, never will. Filthy habit that takes money better spent on Spridgets. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 13:55:26 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:55:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: Ya know how putting a "Type R" emblem on your car automatically raises the horsepower on your import ricer. Well, putting a W E S L A K E valve cover on your engine, automatically increases your cc's..... NFI, just thought you would want to know.... Just Ed On Jan 13, 2008 2:49 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what > > happened > > and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no > > crime > > there. If there is, too bad. > > > > BTW, who is Weslake 1330? > > I dunno, some Enlish bloke whose engine used to displace 1312cc and now > put > some kind of Weslake device on his new engine whose displacement had gone > up > to 1330cc... > > I think Burt Levy's article in Classic Motorsports summed it up quite > well. > It was not the fault of one single factor, but rather the result of many > combined stupidities. So long as it does not happen again... > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 13 13:57:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:57:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <022301c85626$fae77d40$0401a8c0@midget> > Ya know how putting a "Type R" emblem on your car automatically raises the > horsepower on your import ricer. > Well, putting a W E S L A K E valve cover on your engine, automatically > increases your cc's..... It certainly does seem to affect the amount of hot air generated... I never knew how much performance could be gained by simply changing the valve cover. Special ED From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 13 13:58:29 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:58:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> Did I ever show you the entire collection of in car and trackside video of that incident? That was the perfect storm of race accidents. One particular driver/car is most often cited as the prime culprit. But, there were a few other factors... large field, front rows checking up because of a late green, guys with 2 way radios in the back of the pack jumping on the loud pedal early, well before cresting the hill, over prepared cheater cars, and overly aggressive drivers... just to name a few ingredients. VSCDA was the sanctioning body... but that was very much in name only. When the Chicago Historics were taken over by Road America, VSCDA was brought in to administer it. I think the club got $10k for that. But, the reality was, the VSCDA did not have anything to do with what drivers, what cars, what car classifications, etc. But, VSCDA took a lot of bad press from people blaming over prepared cars as the reason behind the melee, as if the VSCDA was the reason there were 180mph Camaros, etc. I don't think the blame on the club was justified. The track used it all as an opportunity to bring in the SVRA to run the event (a for profit business, VSCDA is a not for profit club). Then, within the VSCDA, the whole deal started this era correct push which over the last 2.5 years has been a real pigf*ck. That did nothing but make it appear that the VSCDA's critics were right, and our car prep rules were at fault, when it was the track that totally controlled who raced what. Lots of politics in vintage racing. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:40 PM To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what happened and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no crime there. If there is, too bad. BTW, who is Weslake 1330? Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Is this looking to blame unpaid volunteer officials or a not for profit making car club or someone else? Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 20:30:26 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Did anybody ever get the "official" blame? Was any punishment meted out? _________________________________________ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jan 13 14:03:39 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:03:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system Message-ID: <0abb01c85627$c522e1d0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Daniel, Problem with the remote amplifier? I heard the DM has the old GM HEI 4-pin module in it. (I haven't opened mine to check.) They're pretty cheap to replace, may be try that? -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Weslake1330 at aol.com [Weslake1330 at aol.com] Sent: 1/13/2008 3:39:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system Hi List, Any bright ideas on this one? I have a Lucas DM series electronic distributor on my carbs engine with a combined coil and ignition pack. Ibve recently fitted a new coil HT lead and the distributor cap and rotor arm have less than 10,000 miles on them. The car starts first time and runs great for about 10 minutes and then completely cuts out. After doing nothing for a few minutes the engine will start first time and run for an hour or longer with no problem whatsoever. The engine is new and being run in so I have no idea of what rpm ignition performance is like but I donbt suspect the coil is at fault. I donbt suspect the ignition system is at fault as when the previous unit failed it never cut out but suffered instead, high rpm rough running. Itbs possible the distributor pick up might be failing but I donbt understand why there is such a seemingly perfect recovery after an absolute failure. Any ideas or how I can check things with just a basicmultimeter? Regards Weslake1330 . From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 14:20:38 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:20:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <73E6106B-2ED7-4AB5-96A9-D5585F454B42@comcast.net> Message-ID: <501202.27362.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I figured i would just leave the plug in and try it. I looked in vizard - But i do not think he covers this or i missed it. The book is kind of a over welming read. Some of the stuff is beyond me. In the past i would send a motor off to builder. This time around i think i am going to give it a go. I have two blocks . 1275cc? and a 948cc? I know nothing about either motor. vigil Lester wrote: I turned the head upside down, and used a pipette to run in a volume of water until the chamber is full. Not perfect I know as you are supposed to place some plexi or glass on the cylinder head to give the water a place to stop. But it's close enough.. Lester On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:07 AM, > wrote: > New Question - I found a head in the back of my garage. i know from > the casting it is from a 948cc "A" Motor from a Morris vehicle. Ok - > Here is my question. Is there a chart or a formula to figure the CC > of the head? The head is not on a motor. I have got a ruff figure on > another head by using liquid. Then cranked the motor with and old > towel over the head to catch the fluid. I was only gas so i could > have just fired the motor. I figured it may cause problem so i used > the towel method. I am assuming you take a flat and messure to the > bottom. How do you figure in the curves or round edges to get your > number. > > Vigil > "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: Stock Spridget > 1275's were 21.4cc's. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 10:13 PM > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets net > Subject: [Spridgets] A series head ?? > > Ok, so what is the size of the combustion chamber? I measured 22cc's > on the one I have. anyone know if it is stock or has it been massaged? > > Thanks, > > Lester You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 14:27:54 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:27:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> Message-ID: <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Yeah, I kind of guessed that it was a comedy of errors. What I wanted to get across to Daniel is that the only way to prevent it from happening again is to identify the problem and correct it. If that means some some unpaid volunteer or some not-for-profit car club or anyone else at blame takes one in the shorts to prevent it from happening again, sobeit. I agree, it would be hard to put any blame on VSCDA, but SOMEBODY sure as hell screwed up big-time. I don't remember the car count in the crash(es), but I would not be very surprised if the damages in that incident neared one million dollars. That's a pocketful of cash. Plus, there were a few injuries. LAD P.S. Everybody keep your fingers crossed that the Giants whip the Cowboys today. The Pack doesn't want to have to face the Boys in their home stadium. (Sorry Brad.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Larry Daniels'" ; ; Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Did I ever show you the entire collection of in car and trackside video of that incident? That was the perfect storm of race accidents. One particular driver/car is most often cited as the prime culprit. But, there were a few other factors... large field, front rows checking up because of a late green, guys with 2 way radios in the back of the pack jumping on the loud pedal early, well before cresting the hill, over prepared cheater cars, and overly aggressive drivers... just to name a few ingredients. VSCDA was the sanctioning body... but that was very much in name only. When the Chicago Historics were taken over by Road America, VSCDA was brought in to administer it. I think the club got $10k for that. But, the reality was, the VSCDA did not have anything to do with what drivers, what cars, what car classifications, etc. But, VSCDA took a lot of bad press from people blaming over prepared cars as the reason behind the melee, as if the VSCDA was the reason there were 180mph Camaros, etc. I don't think the blame on the club was justified. The track used it all as an opportunity to bring in the SVRA to run the event (a for profit business, VSCDA is a not for profit club). Then, within the VSCDA, the whole deal started this era correct push which over the last 2.5 years has been a real pigf*ck. That did nothing but make it appear that the VSCDA's critics were right, and our car prep rules were at fault, when it was the track that totally controlled who raced what. Lots of politics in vintage racing. WST From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 14:42:24 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:42:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: I could care less if the Cowboys lose, it might do us all some good. I started disliking the team, after Coach Jones started getting to be more and more of a public ass. Plus, I think all professional sports, are fixed. Just like Pro Wrestling. There is too much money moving around, over a sports game, for it NOT to be influenced in a variety of ways. On Jan 13, 2008 3:27 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > P.S. Everybody keep your fingers crossed that the Giants whip the Cowboys > today. The Pack doesn't want to have to face the Boys in their home > stadium. (Sorry Brad.) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 14:49:51 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:49:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: <02a001c8561d$3b42e820$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <808864.82515.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Buddy Guy > Great show. If you get a chance to see him, do it. Ahhh, you're lucky - I've seen him when he didn't feel like finishing songs, started over at will like an 8 year old girl taking a piano lesson, and was basically so self absorbed I've sworn off seeing him again. Great talent, but that really turned me off. I last saw BB in 1998 or so, it was quite the opposite - still great and the thrill definitely wasn't gone. I don't get to see much these days, unfortunately. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 14:50:25 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:50:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <032c01c8562e$4e3d6570$6401a8c0@Larry> I'd find it hard to argue with any of that. To think otherwise would be a bit naive. That goes for auto racing, too. Especially NASCAR. Ugggh. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Larry Daniels Cc: Wm. Severin Thompson ; Weslake1330 at aol.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge I could care less if the Cowboys lose, it might do us all some good. I started disliking the team, after Coach Jones started getting to be more and more of a public ass. Plus, I think all professional sports, are fixed. Just like Pro Wrestling. There is too much money moving around, over a sports game, for it NOT to be influenced in a variety of ways. On Jan 13, 2008 3:27 PM, Larry Daniels < ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: P.S. Everybody keep your fingers crossed that the Giants whip the Cowboys today. The Pack doesn't want to have to face the Boys in their home stadium. (Sorry Brad.) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 13 14:52:55 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:52:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <501202.27362.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Search Google: "ccing combustion chamber" From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 14:54:41 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:54:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <230233.28778.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > Hi List, > > Any bright ideas on this one? Same symptoms last June on racecar, practice day at Blackhawk Farms, with stock points though. Changed everything one at a time, it was the coil. Unless PPP recalls otherwise? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 13 14:55:07 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:55:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: <808864.82515.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For a guy who never learned how to play and sing at the same time, he's had quite a career, but then so have a lot of people who learned to do either one. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 14:55:21 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) References: <808864.82515.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <033301c8562e$fed70d50$6401a8c0@Larry> I had the same really disappointing experience with Koko Taylor years ago. Swore I wouldn't walk across the street to see her again. I've heard she has straightened out since. But I wouldn't know. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) > Buddy Guy > Great show. If you get a chance to see him, do it. Ahhh, you're lucky - I've seen him when he didn't feel like finishing songs, started over at will like an 8 year old girl taking a piano lesson, and was basically so self absorbed I've sworn off seeing him again. Great talent, but that really turned me off. I last saw BB in 1998 or so, it was quite the opposite - still great and the thrill definitely wasn't gone. I don't get to see much these days, unfortunately. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 14:57:30 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:57:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point In-Reply-To: <005701c85625$40f44c70$c2dce550$@com> Message-ID: <525949.8965.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Don't s'pose anyone criticizing cell phone using > drivers are smokers, are > they Not since August. Don't remind me. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 15:04:57 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:04:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <032c01c8562e$4e3d6570$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> <032c01c8562e$4e3d6570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: I just turned the game on, Giants ahead at 7, GO GIANTS!! I finally had my fill of the Cowboys franchise, when Coach Jones talked the city of Arlington into MAKING hundreds of people move from their homes, to make his new stadium. This is "supposed" to help the community, but since Jones is about to start charging $340 per ticket, I don't see how the community is going to reap any rewards. Anyway, what Jerry is doing, he is doing, because he is a businessman. Pro Sports is a Business, and just like in ANY business, behind doors decisions are made, without the knowledge of the public. This could include game fixing. Tell a fan, a TRUE fan, that the game is fixed, and he will IMMEDIATELY scream "F YOU!!" This is where the businessman wants you to be, thinking with your emotions, instead of your brain. Once you realize it is a business, you start to see the advantages of keeping the fan in a emotional state. There is another business that wants you to do the EXACT same thing, anyone ever been to the nudie bar. Some folks spend an assload of money, with the emotional mindset, that they are gonna "win". The business sells beer, the stripper sells hope, and they both make money off of an emotional sucker. 'Nuff said.......... On Jan 13, 2008 3:50 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I'd find it hard to argue with any of that. > > To think otherwise would be a bit naive. > > That goes for auto racing, too. Especially NASCAR. Ugggh. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Brad Fornal > *To:* Larry Daniels > *Cc:* Wm. Severin Thompson ; Weslake1330 at aol.com ; > spridgets at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge > > I could care less if the Cowboys lose, it might do us all some good. I > started disliking the team, after Coach Jones started getting to be more and > more of a public ass. > Plus, I think all professional sports, are fixed. Just like Pro Wrestling. > > There is too much money moving around, over a sports game, for it NOT to > be influenced in a variety of ways. > > On Jan 13, 2008 3:27 PM, Larry Daniels < ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > P.S. Everybody keep your fingers crossed that the Giants whip the > > Cowboys > > today. The Pack doesn't want to have to face the Boys in their home > > stadium. (Sorry Brad.) > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 15:07:12 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:07:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <577480.67456.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > For a guy who never learned how to play and sing at > the same time Hell, he doesn't even play chords. Doesn't really matter. But I think Bob Dylan sings better than the American Idol people, too. And that Johnny Ramone's 4 chords represent better guitar playing than anything Yngwie Malmsteen ever did. BTW, "Under the Big Black Sun" was on display at Borders today. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 15:07:29 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:07:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point In-Reply-To: <525949.8965.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005701c85625$40f44c70$c2dce550$@com> <525949.8965.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in high shool, there was a friend of mine, that I HATED to ride with. He would like to talk, and LOOK at you, while he talked. Even if he was driving. I finally had to start driving his car for him, so that he could talk. Scared the piss out of me more than once. On Jan 13, 2008 3:57 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" > wrote: > > > Don't s'pose anyone criticizing cell phone using > > drivers are smokers, are > > they > > Not since August. Don't remind me. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Jan 13 15:17:15 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:17:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <02af01c85622$fbb63bc0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02af01c85622$fbb63bc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <69cq7p$2cdoio@email.mtu.edu> Pics here: http://www.pbase.com/atrltd/bric2005 At 03:29 PM 1/13/2008, Larry Daniels wrote: > When I got to the >Kohler Int'l Challenge, I wondered what ever happened regarding that >monumental f___-up on the start of the heavy metal race a couple of years ago. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 15:23:18 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:23:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <772224.12912.qm@web30513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > get across to Daniel is that the only way to prevent > it from happening again > is to identify the problem and correct it. SVRA has banned cell phones on the pace lap. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jan 13 15:32:06 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:32:06 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? Message-ID: I don't know whether I should be talking to Vigil or Lester, here. So, to whomever, one and/or all, as the case may be! :) I've never done the cc'ing of combustion chambers myself, but I ass-u-me both valves installed in the closed position with spark plug installed. Certainly 22cc's is "close enough for government work", Vigil, considering 21.4 for stock 1275 Spridget chambers? The idea is that they should all be the same for equal capacity so as to provide a "balanced" or "even" power output. It's usually part of "blueprinting" a motor. The fact you know nothing about Series A motors is all the MORE reason to read and understand to the extent required for your build, the contents of Vizard's terrific book. I mean, it's just loaded with good stuff, some of which you'll use, some of which you won't. A lot is determined by how far you want to need to go and how much money you can or want to spend. I virtually guarantee you'll use the knowledge gained to the extent required in your build. Vizard has like almost 30 years building, racing, tuning Series A's? He "knows" man, he "knows'!!! And you paid for the book, right??? Sure you did.... use it!! :):) CapBob From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jan 13 15:37:48 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:37:48 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars Message-ID: LOL, Howard.... usually when list mail "stops", it's usually triggered by too many bounced inbound mails for whatever reason(s). Or, Mark is dead. I've been getting autox mails so we can ass-u-me Mark lives and all is well at his end. This has been my experience, anyway. And yes, you are wise in your choice of computer literate young human being as to fix though I personally got through it on my own...dumb luck, no doubt. :) Regards. CapBob From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 15:38:22 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:38:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Team Thicko - STILL everywhere Message-ID: <349795.61794.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At Border's book store today... I have a strange attraction to coffee table books on lavish garages the way normal people like similar books about, say, paintings and art and stuff. One of the ones I have is "Ultimate Garages", by Berg. There is a newly released follow-up with the imaginative title of "Ultimate Garages II", and I was specifically looking for it. So I find a copy, and start thumbing through. 4th page or so, prior to the table of contents, is a full page picture of a garage with a urinal and a TEAM THICKO sticker! The Thicko sticker is right in the foreground for all to see - beautiful. Further investigation shows a multipage spread on the amazing garage of Thickos Barb and Bernie Nevoral. I noticed a few other familiar VSCDA names in other write ups as well. At $35 list, I'm going the Amazon.com route so I can save up for a place like Bernie's. You definitely need to check this book out. Cheers, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 13 15:55:56 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:55:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The idea is that they should all be the same > for equal capacity so as to provide a "balanced" or "even" power output. That, and the fact that the compression ratio is the ratio between the cyl. volume, and the combustion chamber volume. If you've bored the cylinders and resurfaced the head, it's nice to know what you've done to the compression. From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jan 13 16:09:42 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:09:42 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? Message-ID: "It's nice to know what you've done to compression" Absolutely, Billy. :) CapBob From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jan 13 16:11:51 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:11:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (NO LBC) PRO Wrestling? In-Reply-To: References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <006301c85627$0eb1dd70$2c159850$@com> <030f01c8562b$28dc2e40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <359821497.20080113151151@pacifier.com> Hello Brad, PRO Wrestling FIXED?.. FIXED? .. i didn't know it was BROKEN! How can ANYONE believe that it has ever been FIXED? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "I didn't see that French 'No Smoking' sign," fumed Tom defensively. From dwramsey at att.net Sun Jan 13 16:17:46 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:17:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <73E6106B-2ED7-4AB5-96A9-D5585F454B42@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080113231801.F39701879DF@autox.team.net> But did you use a concave or convex meniscus? I guess if you did 10 or so readings using both and averaged the readings, maybe? Crash I turned the head upside down, and used a pipette to run in a volume of water until the chamber is full. Not perfect I know as you are supposed to place some plexi or glass on the cylinder head to give the water a place to stop. But it's close enough.. Lester From stargazer1 at cox.net Sun Jan 13 15:30:25 2008 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:30:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Chargers (football, not batteries) Message-ID: <478A9101.1020306@cox.net> I realise that Packer's Football might qualify as a religion, but is it OK for us San Diegans to cheer wildly? That was a nail-biter. :-) Cheers, Dave Ambrose From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sun Jan 13 16:36:43 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:36:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed Message-ID: <50252.72.71.216.79.1200267403.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Thanks to all who responded to say my trunion was backwards. Now it's fixed. Frank- I recall you posting a reasonably easy way to set the allignment. Want to tell me again? Thanks to all. Dick Byrne From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 17:24:03 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:24:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <73E6106B-2ED7-4AB5-96A9-D5585F454B42@comcast.net> Message-ID: <362A5AD2-A3B9-49AA-81E7-D38E0AEA5D83@comcast.net> ... I reduced the surface tension chemically so that wasn't a problem.. ;-) Not to mention, from my observation the large surface area vs the volume means that the meniscus measurement wouldn't be that much of a problem.. Lester On Jan 13, 2008, at 5:17 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > But did you use a concave or convex meniscus? I guess if you did 10 > or so > readings using both and averaged the readings, maybe? > Crash > > I turned the head upside down, and used a pipette to run in a volume > of water until the chamber is full. Not perfect I know as you are > supposed to place some plexi or glass on the cylinder head to give the > water a place to stop. But it's close enough.. > > Lester From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 13 17:39:35 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:39:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? In-Reply-To: <20080113231801.F39701879DF@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <311163.36775.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Ramsey wrote: > But did you use a concave or convex meniscus? I > guess if you did 10 or so > readings using both and averaged the readings, > maybe My Longman head (not the $1500 one; this is the one about 1/2 that) is marked 21cc. I bought it new, never cc'd it. I spec'd pistons based on that. I was concerned last winter when I did the annual valve job and the machinist said 6 thou needed to be milled for flatness. I asked him to cc it to determine if I needed a thicker head gasket or wanted to risk 13:1+ CR. AFTER machining it came to 21.5 cc. Gotta love Longman. Lesson learned, cc it every time. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Jan 13 17:59:18 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:59:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? In-Reply-To: <017401c855fc$a4b8c070$0401a8c0@midget> References: <8CA23A6238ECB72-E74-2DAC@FWM-D10.sysops.aol.com> <017401c855fc$a4b8c070$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <9B5D288E-ED64-4343-9D3C-1830C0AE4761@phillymgclub.com> Has absolutely nothing to do with the canoe Ed On Jan 13, 2008, at 10:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Got a lot of strange looks... > David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 17:59:52 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:59:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Giants Win!! Message-ID: <03b601c85648$c589de00$6401a8c0@Larry> Thank you, thank you, thank you, New York Giants and all who cheered for them. Brad, I owe you a beer -- or a tequila or something. Dave Ambrose, congrats to the Chargers. It brings a smile to see the underdog win -- especially when they beat the reigning champs. Well done and a good game, too. Footballed out for a week, LAD From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 13 18:09:05 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:09:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Giants Win!! References: <03b601c85648$c589de00$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <02bd01c8564a$0eebc440$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> I'm not, Larry!! But indeed it was a PERFECT day!!! Oh, did I mention I HATE dallass ??? The REAL Ed From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 18:42:07 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:42:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 engines from another angle.. Message-ID: <350D9792-048D-4E41-B34B-5DFAE6FD9E80@comcast.net> Maybe I have been asking the wrong questions.. Where should I go for engine info? Crank numbers, cam identifiers, head casting numbers , etc.? Where should I go for 948 engine parts both stock and upgraded? I know about APT, Moss has no cranks for a 948 listed. Thanks all, Lester .. oh yeah, the crank has 2A829 and J38AX both cast into it. Mean anything to anyone? From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 13 18:46:55 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:46:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Thicko - STILL everywhere References: <349795.61794.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <039801c8564f$5858d140$6401a8c0@actualshop> Ron, don't remember if I am on Thicko List or not so if you don't see, please re-post this. <> Amazon !! Ordered mine!! From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jan 13 18:54:19 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:54:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <05e501c85650$611f41f0$53997e4c@HP> Was said Westlake device responsible for the increase in size? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge >> "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what >> happened >> and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no >> crime >> there. If there is, too bad. >> >> BTW, who is Weslake 1330? > > I dunno, some Enlish bloke whose engine used to displace 1312cc and now > put > some kind of Weslake device on his new engine whose displacement had gone > up > to 1330cc... > > I think Burt Levy's article in Classic Motorsports summed it up quite > well. > It was not the fault of one single factor, but rather the result of many > combined stupidities. So long as it does not happen again... > David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 19:01:57 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:01:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <05e501c85650$611f41f0$53997e4c@HP> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> <05e501c85650$611f41f0$53997e4c@HP> Message-ID: Having W E S L A K E will make you more manly than a dose of Enzyte, if you believe the hype!! LOL On Jan 13, 2008 7:54 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Was said Westlake device responsible for the increase in size? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 12:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge > > > >> "I" am not looking to blame anyone. I was just curious about what > >> happened > >> and why -- and how and why it won't happen again. I hope there is no > >> crime > >> there. If there is, too bad. > >> > >> BTW, who is Weslake 1330? > > > > I dunno, some Enlish bloke whose engine used to displace 1312cc and now > > put > > some kind of Weslake device on his new engine whose displacement had > gone > > up > > to 1330cc... > > > > I think Burt Levy's article in Classic Motorsports summed it up quite > > well. > > It was not the fault of one single factor, but rather the result of many > > combined stupidities. So long as it does not happen again... > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sun Jan 13 19:32:05 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point References: <005701c85625$40f44c70$c2dce550$@com><525949.8965.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017401c85655$a71eed90$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, I've noticed women (driving or not) always look at each other when talking! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Ron Soave" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point > Back in high shool, there was a friend of mine, that I HATED to ride with. > He would like to talk, and LOOK at you, while he talked. Even if he was > driving. I finally had to start driving his car for him, so that he could > talk. Scared the piss out of me more than once. > > On Jan 13, 2008 3:57 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" >> wrote: >> >> > Don't s'pose anyone criticizing cell phone using >> > drivers are smokers, are >> > they >> >> Not since August. Don't remind me. >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> Be a better friend, newshound, and >> know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. >> http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sun Jan 13 19:37:06 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:37:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chargers (football, not batteries) References: <478A9101.1020306@cox.net> Message-ID: <01ab01c85656$5ab078b0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> David, The only game which has anything to do with religion is Rugby Union: especially when England is playing Wales! Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ambrose" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:30 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Chargers (football, not batteries) >I realise that Packer's Football might qualify as a religion, but is it > OK for us San Diegans to cheer wildly? That was a nail-biter. :-) > > Cheers, > Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Sun Jan 13 19:55:50 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:55:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Why???? In-Reply-To: <415345.51326.qm@web38911.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080114025607.A477B187A01@autox.team.net> Don't kid yourself, the reason the chrome is cheaper is because it is cheaper to produce, we are not talking triple nickel chrome here. ONE WORD "PLASTIC". Crash I am not sure i agree with you. I have been working on a Chevy with my son. A lot of the chrome parts are cheaper the the painted ones. I wanted a normal Alternator. But went with chrome because it was $15 cheaper. - Yes if you go to have some thing you already have chromed it is more expensive. But in a lot of different reproduction parts the chrome is cheaper. I know it does not seem right to me either. The only thing i can figure is they sell more of the chrome reproduction items so they buy more dropping the price. I am not saying this is all parts. But i have started to notice more all the time. Vigil From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 19:55:57 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:55:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <022301c85626$fae77d40$0401a8c0@midget> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> <022301c85626$fae77d40$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <478ACF3D.5040101@comcast.net> Special Ed wrote: > I never knew how much performance could be gained by simply changing the > valve cover. You should see the horsepower gains when you add racing stripes to your ride ;) Another Ed From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 20:11:08 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:11:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) Message-ID: Holy Crap, the news is HILARIOUS tonight. They are showing interviews with the Cowboys. Romo is manning up, saying he messed up, and T.O. is crying about how the reporters are picking on his team, and his quarterback. I haven't seen anything so funny, since the transgender guy on You Tube in runny mascara, crying "Leave Britney Alone!!" -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 20:11:02 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:11:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed In-Reply-To: <50252.72.71.216.79.1200267403.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50252.72.71.216.79.1200267403.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <478AD2C6.8070808@comcast.net> lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Frank- I recall you posting a reasonably easy way to set the allignment. > Want to tell me again? To set the toe in, take 2 straight edges, a piece of wood will do, run it across each tire. With the aid of a helper, measure the distance from straight edge to straight edge behind the front tires, say it;s 50 inches. Now measure across the front of the tires, it should be 49-7/8" for 1/8" toe IN. 1/16 is fine too and some people run zero toe in. It should not be more than 1/8" To adjust the toe in, loosen the large nut on each tie rod end. Loosen the clamp on the rack boot, turn the rod (not the tie rod end) in or out until you have 1/8" less in front of the wheels than you have behind the wheels. Please note that each tie rod end should be equal, and they seem to average 15 full turns on. So 25 full turns on one side and 5 on the other will give you the proper toe in but you don't want that. Keep the tie rod ends fairly equal give or take a turn. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 13 20:25:24 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:25:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed In-Reply-To: <478AD2C6.8070808@comcast.net> Message-ID: The Harbor Freight toe-in gauge is only $12.99 That might be cheaper than two pieces of wood, and definitely straighter than Home Depot wood. > take 2 straight edges, a piece of wood will do From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 20:25:38 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:25:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point In-Reply-To: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190801131227i405f6a76h6512ffb3a5087538@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801131925r32f2a46cn9748bf0f252837f@mail.gmail.com> On 1/13/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > All that said, I am not sure what is the solution. But to find one we > have > to know what is the problem. Hold hat there, Gilroy!! That's a pretty radical concept. Never have the lawmakers in this country applied a solution to an actual problem!! Not when given half a chance to apply a solution to the *symptoms* of said problem instead!! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 13 20:29:18 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:29:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) References: Message-ID: <046101c8565d$a584f300$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:11 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) Holy Crap, the news is HILARIOUS tonight. They are showing interviews with the Cowboys. Romo is manning up, saying he messed up, and T.O. is crying about how the reporters are picking on his team, and his quarterback. I haven't seen anything so funny, since the transgender guy on You Tube in runny mascara, crying "Leave Britney Alone!!" -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad _______________________________________________ That is funny, Brad. They can lighten up on Romo. The guy has talent, but he is green. He was letting the sh_t build up and get to him. He was so flustered in the end that you would think Jessica had broken up with him. The boy needs experience. Besides, he is originally a Wisconsin boy. T.O., on the other hand, is a jerk and can whine away until the one or two fans he still has can't stand him anymore, either. Larry From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jan 13 20:30:08 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:30:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <478ACF3D.5040101@comcast.net> References: <02cd01c85624$6f382120$6401a8c0@Larry> <01fd01c85625$c8e3cc50$0401a8c0@midget> <022301c85626$fae77d40$0401a8c0@midget> <478ACF3D.5040101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1182562501.20080113193008@pacifier.com> Hello Frank, extra horsepower IS available,... the westlake cover just being one route.. here is how to get 50 horsepower extra out of ANY car... be sure to have a listen as well as absorbing the complete instructions. http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/mycoffeecan/ http://www.angelfire.com/nc2/mycoffeecan/page1.html -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite I never thought I'd miss Nixon. (thanks to Amber) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 20:32:12 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:32:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) In-Reply-To: <046101c8565d$a584f300$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <046101c8565d$a584f300$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: If you didn't get it on your news, I'm sure it should hit You Tube tomorrow, if not sooner. On Jan 13, 2008 9:29 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" > > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:11 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) > > > Holy Crap, the news is HILARIOUS tonight. They are showing interviews with > the Cowboys. Romo is manning up, saying he messed up, and T.O. is crying > about how the reporters are picking on his team, and his quarterback. > I haven't seen anything so funny, since the transgender guy on You Tube in > runny mascara, crying "Leave Britney Alone!!" > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > > That is funny, Brad. > > They can lighten up on Romo. The guy has talent, but he is green. He was > letting the sh_t build up and get to him. He was so flustered in the end > that you would think Jessica had broken up with him. The boy needs > experience. Besides, he is originally a Wisconsin boy. > > T.O., on the other hand, is a jerk and can whine away until the one or two > fans he still has can't stand him anymore, either. > > Larry > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 13 20:30:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:30:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478AD74E.9090304@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > The Harbor Freight toe-in gauge is only $12.99 Let me guess, it's 2 pieces of metal and a tape measure? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From p.herder at cox.net Sun Jan 13 20:38:42 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:38:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed In-Reply-To: <478AD74E.9090304@comcast.net> References: <478AD74E.9090304@comcast.net> Message-ID: -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed Billy Zoom wrote: > The Harbor Freight toe-in gauge is only $12.99 Then Frank Clarici wrote: > Let me guess, it's 2 pieces of metal and a tape measure? No, the tape measure is extra... and some assembly is required. Paul Herder Sedgwick, KS From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 13 20:45:04 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:45:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye suspension fixed References: <478AD74E.9090304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <020901c8565f$d9a54cf0$6401a8c0@actualshop> < The Harbor Freight toe-in gauge is only $12.99>> And a roll of carpenter's string is a LOT cheaper!!! LOL From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 13 20:46:48 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Leave Tony Alone!!! (no LBC content) References: <046101c8565d$a584f300$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <021601c85660$17751f60$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> All the WORSE, Larry!!! LOL Did I mention I HATE dallass?? The ONLY REAL Ed From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jan 13 21:42:05 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:42:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Joke (No LBC) Message-ID: <8610501551.20080113204205@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, A woman meets a man in a bar. They talk, they connect, they end up leaving together. They get back to his place, and as he shows her around his apartment, she notices that one wall of his bedroom is completely filled with soft, sweet, cuddly teddy bears. There are three shelves in the bedroom, with hundreds and hundreds of cute, cuddly teddy bears carefully placed in rows, covering the entire wall! It was obvious that he had taken quite some time to lovingly arrange them and she was immediately touched by the amount of thought he had by the amount of thought he had put into organizing the display. There were small bears all along the bottom shelf, medium-sized bears covering the length of the middle shelf, and huge, enormous bears running all the way along the top shelf. She found it strange for an obviously masculine guy to have such a large collection of Teddy Bears. She is quite impressed by his sensitive side, but doesn't mention this to him. They share a bottle of wine and continue talking and, after a while, she finds herself thinking, "Oh my God! Maybe, this guy could be the one! Maybe he could be the future father of my children...?" She turns to him and kisses him lightly on the lips he responds warmly. They continue to kiss, the passion builds, and he romantically lifts her in his arms and carries her into his bedroom, where they rip off each other's clothes and make hot, steamy love. She is so overwhelmed that she responds with more passion, more creativity, more heat than she has ever known. After an intense, explosive night of raw passion with this sensitive man they are lying there together in the afterglow. The woman rolls over, gently strokes his chest and asks coyly, "Well, how was it?" The guy gently smiles at her, strokes her cheek, looks deeply into her eyes and says: "Help yourself to any prize from the middle shelf" -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "One of the tires just blew out," Tom said sparingly. From mikey at b2systems.com Sun Jan 13 22:12:09 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:12:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <478AEF29.5050201@b2systems.com> I don't remember who asked about Soda Blasting 2 weeks ago and I got one for Xmas and said I would report before the 1st of the year. Well sometimes life throws you for a loop and you lose the guys e-mail who asked and you also don't get to try it. Father-in-law is going to be fine at least as fine as a 87 year old can be. I set it up today and used it, its an amazing little tool, I had some rust coming through in the form of a bubble where I wrecked the car back in the mid-1970's so I knew there was bondo in that area and the rust was pushing the bondo up. I hit it with the soda blaster and just like sand blasting, it ripped right through the bondo and all the loose flaky rust. Unfortunately, once the flaky rust was off it stopped working, soda definitively does not work on rust very well. To remove rust I had to stay on the spot for quite a long while. But the surrounding areas were perfectly cleaned and I did not care about removing the stubborn rust, I cut it out and welding in a patch panel. I then went to area of the car where there is no bondo because I didn't wreck that part (this time in the late 1970's) where there was rust from leaking taillight housings that leaked into the trunk over the decades and I did not care since I never thought I would keep the car that long. The soda went right through the paint with no effort and again knocked off all the flaky rust with no problem, it was more work to remove the rust but nothing a plasma cutter could not handle. Overall, like everyone has said, soda does very little to nothing on rust but it tears right through bondo and paint and leaves a perfectly clean weldable surface area, I was very pleased. It also went right through oilly and greasy areas and cleaned that right up. And then just like the instructions said, I hosed it down and was done. Sand blasting would have done better on the rust but it is a major pain to 1) create a blasting area to contain the mess and 2) clean up. This was easy. mike From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Jan 13 23:28:42 2008 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:28:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: <02af01c85622$fbb63bc0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02af01c85622$fbb63bc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0801132228p7a1acf24q91a37b1a8a1d12a8@mail.gmail.com> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohler_Company Do you have the bank roll to sponsor it? Apparently it's out of Mr. Redmond's finances. On Jan 13, 2008 2:29 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I got my Road America schedule fridge magnet in the mail ths week and was > mentally checking off the races I want to attend this year. When I got to > the > Kohler Int'l Challenge, I wondered what ever happened regarding that > monumental f___-up on the start of the heavy metal race a couple of years > ago. > Did anybody ever get the "official" blame? Was any punishment meted out? > > Also, isn't there something a bit distasteful about naming one of the > country's top vintage races involving many million-dollar-plus cars after > a > toilet? Can we go back to calling it the Brian Redmond Int'l Challenge -- > or, > better yet, the Chicago Historic Races? > > > > Larry Daniels > > 79 MGB LE > 60 Bugeye > 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) > > "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it > doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it > shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." > -- "Une vie ` me cacher et puis libre enfin Le festin est sur mon chemin" - Le Festin From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 00:38:46 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:38:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] BB King (no lbc) In-Reply-To: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> References: <200801131903.m0DJ3Q6d009243@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801132338x2a50a0a4t21c2f8083bfe35d@mail.gmail.com> He (King) was here in Grants Pass on the 9th. What a show!!! Herb On Jan 13, 2008 11:03 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Last night I 'opened' the last Christmas present from my wife. Two > tickets to BB King at the Mondavi Center here in town. We were about 10 > rows back and it was fantastic. Sure he's 82, but he still knocks it > out. The Thrill is Gone, How Blue Can You Get?.............entire house > on its feet, what can you say? > > I'm still blissed out. > > Glen Byrns From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 00:43:21 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 23:43:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 engines from another angle.. In-Reply-To: <350D9792-048D-4E41-B34B-5DFAE6FD9E80@comcast.net> References: <350D9792-048D-4E41-B34B-5DFAE6FD9E80@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801132343q25d1cb61rf742c1dd4ca1aee3@mail.gmail.com> ...to guys on this list! We have a couple suppliers (new parts) on the list as well. Herb > Where should I go for engine info? Crank numbers, cam identifiers, > head casting numbers , etc.? > > Where should I go for 948 engine parts both stock and upgraded? > > I know about APT, Moss has no cranks for a 948 listed. > > Thanks all, > > Lester > > .. oh yeah, the crank has 2A829 and J38AX both cast into it. Mean > anything to anyone? From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 03:21:21 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:21:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 Message-ID: <205cef430801140221v6b534fdetf81195d059c09537@mail.gmail.com> I haven't been on in a while so this may have been posted already. Spridget 50 short video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9XxfqtnS0&feature=related Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 03:28:39 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:28:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Racing youtube Message-ID: <205cef430801140228i75127385wd3226aa294f1251e@mail.gmail.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq9RxaCX7dE&feature=related Any of our listers in this race? Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 04:32:54 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:32:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] free Sprite rear ends on craigslist Message-ID: <205cef430801140332q4789933bleb05b785d18c5341@mail.gmail.com> *http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/pts/528616283.html* * * *FREE Austin Healey Bugeye Sprite 2 rear ends & Windsheild FREE* ------------------------------ Reply to: see below Date: 2008-01-04, 10:35PM CST I have 2 used bugeye rear ends 1 with axkes & gears, 1 without. one has some drum brake parts also. I also have a windsheild complete with mounting frame. the frame looks good, just some polishing. needs new glass (not cracked just old) and new seals. i have pics and can email them when needed. otterouttawater at gmail.com is the best way to get a hold of me. thanks! Sean From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Jan 14 04:54:14 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:54:14 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? Message-ID: I've only worked with 1275's but... I think the stock 948cc motor had either 26 or 28cc combustion chamber vol (the different cc capacities for the three is in Vizard's) so in either case, it's seems the head has been VERY much cut...as in high comp. racing type application depending upon bore/piston chosen in the block matching this particular head. Figures for the height of each head as it came stock from the factory is also in Vizard's I believe. CapBob From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 07:01:28 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:01:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cell phones and cars, you are missing the point In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801131925r32f2a46cn9748bf0f252837f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In this country, perhaps I'm cynical, but the solutions always seem to involve the prospect of more fines or taxes and rarely seem to be more than a money grab. So, if you're trying to find out what the problem is here ... I think they always find that they don't have enough money to support their 'empire' and that they will allow the behaviour in question ... for a fee. ;) >From: "Jim Johnson" >On 1/13/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > > > All that said, I am not sure what is the solution. But to find one we > > have > > to know what is the problem. > > >Hold hat there, Gilroy!! That's a pretty radical concept. Never have the >lawmakers in this country applied a solution to an actual problem!! Not >when given half a chance to apply a solution to the *symptoms* of said >problem instead!! >-- >Cheers!! >Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 07:03:12 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:03:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 In-Reply-To: <205cef430801140221v6b534fdetf81195d059c09537@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430801140221v6b534fdetf81195d059c09537@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801140603m1c23b047j1d5a2a55c22bad1b@mail.gmail.com> On 1/14/08, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > I haven't been on in a while so this may have been posted already. > > Spridget 50 short video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9XxfqtnS0&feature=related > Cute video! But they must have printed it backwards. The steering wheels are all on the wrong side! ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 07:21:24 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:21:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801140603m1c23b047j1d5a2a55c22bad1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can't see the video from here, but ... are you sure that they aren't on the 'right' side? ;) >From: "Jim Johnson" > >On 1/14/08, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > > I haven't been on in a while so this may have been posted already. > > > > Spridget 50 short video > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9XxfqtnS0&feature=related > > > >Cute video! But they must have printed it backwards. The steering wheels >are all on the wrong side! ;-) > >Cheers!! >Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 14 08:33:09 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:33:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows Message-ID: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> I have asked this before, but never gotten a convincing answer. Why does no one put a MK2+ windscreen and doors with roll-up windows on a Bugeye Sprite? One suggestion is that the doors would fit, but the windscreen bolts on differently. That would seem to be a relatively straightforward reinforcement job, welding in new mounting points. Is the shape of the A-pillar and shroud/dash very different? It looks like they might be in pictures I have. Any thoughts? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 14 08:53:52 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:53:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice A40 Pickup Message-ID: <052001c856c5$a9accf80$6401a8c0@Larry> Nice looking A40 pickup on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/2jcaqu Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 08:54:42 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:54:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> Message-ID: <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> Most find it easier to put a Bugeye nose on a squarebodied Sprite. If you're interested in convenience, then that solution also gets you a real boot lid, and all the suspension and braking improvements. I'd have to look at the contour of the roll up windows in comparison to the side screens on a Bugeye to see what modifications you'd need to do to make a top fit. Sounds like a lot of cockin' around to ruin a Bugeye, rather than to make a later Spridget with more conveniences look like a Bugeye with the simple addition of a nose. Also, ask yourself how many folks drive their Sprites (Bugeye or later) in inclement weather? Not too many. Personally, with decent sidescreens, I've never had an issue with any reason to modify a Bugeye with any large amount of conveniences. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:33 AM To: spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows I have asked this before, but never gotten a convincing answer. Why does no one put a MK2+ windscreen and doors with roll-up windows on a Bugeye Sprite? One suggestion is that the doors would fit, but the windscreen bolts on differently. That would seem to be a relatively straightforward reinforcement job, welding in new mounting points. Is the shape of the A-pillar and shroud/dash very different? It looks like they might be in pictures I have. Any thoughts? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 14 08:55:44 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:55:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> Message-ID: > Why does no one put a MK2+ windscreen and doors with roll-up windows on a > Bugeye Sprite? Because some of us don't like roll up windows and ugly, clunky looking windshield frames. Also because the cowl, body tub, and door latches are different. Personally, If I'd wanted a car with roll up windows, I'd be driving a Miata. I was devastated when they started putting roll up windows on British cars. I actually teared up when I first saw a picture of the new MGB. I still get a little emotional thinking about it. BZ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 14 09:07:10 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:07:10 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows Message-ID: <18298553.1200326830423.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Emotions aside, roll-up doors reduce the interior space by eliminating door pockets as well as reducing elbow room. To take it a step-further, later cars which have the "improved" big seats rob even more room. Of course, if that doesn't bother you, then feel free to install a roll bar which mounts directly behind the seats limiting seat movement. But whatever you do, don't forget this: Theft of interior space in a small car is a capital offense in some districts. So watch out and know the statutes in your area. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Billy Zoom >Sent: Jan 14, 2008 10:55 AM >To: Michael Rowe , spridget Chat Group >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows > >> Why does no one put a MK2+ windscreen and doors with roll-up windows on a >> Bugeye Sprite? >Because some of us don't like roll up windows and ugly, clunky looking >windshield frames. Also because the cowl, body tub, and door latches are >different. Personally, If I'd wanted a car with roll up windows, I'd be >driving a Miata. I was devastated when they started putting roll up windows >on British cars. I actually teared up when I first saw a picture of the new >MGB. I still get a little emotional thinking about it. >BZ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 09:16:29 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:16:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <18298553.1200326830423.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <18298553.1200326830423.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00ed01c856c8$d36a34e0$7a3e9ea0$@com> Yeah, really good point Jay. Dave Leib's round arch Midget is stored here this winter, and between the door panels and thicker seat backs, the cars is claustrophobic for my large ass. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of type79 at ix.netcom.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:07 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows Emotions aside, roll-up doors reduce the interior space by eliminating door pockets as well as reducing elbow room. To take it a step-further, later cars which have the "improved" big seats rob even more room. Of course, if that doesn't bother you, then feel free to install a roll bar which mounts directly behind the seats limiting seat movement. But whatever you do, don't forget this: Theft of interior space in a small car is a capital offense in some districts. So watch out and know the statutes in your area. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ s From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 09:22:42 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:22:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <00ed01c856c8$d36a34e0$7a3e9ea0$@com> Message-ID: Hey Frank! Isn't it you that bought a project car that had cut down doors? :) >From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > >Yeah, really good point Jay. > >Dave Leib's round arch Midget is stored here this winter, and between the >door panels and thicker seat backs, the cars is claustrophobic for my large >ass. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf >Of >type79 at ix.netcom.com >Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:07 AM >To: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows > >Emotions aside, roll-up doors reduce the interior space by eliminating door >pockets as well as reducing elbow room. > >To take it a step-further, later cars which have the "improved" big seats >rob even more room. Of course, if that doesn't bother you, then feel free >to >install a roll bar which mounts directly behind the seats limiting seat >movement. > >But whatever you do, don't forget this: Theft of interior space in a small >car is a capital offense in some districts. So watch out and know the >statutes in your area. > >jay fishbein >wallingford, ct >http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 09:23:27 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:23:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0801140603m1c23b047j1d5a2a55c22bad1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801140823p5d65be04lc5b4a715440e646f@mail.gmail.com> Nope. Definitely on the "wrong" side. If you could see it you would also notice that everyone's face is reversed too. Their left and right eyes and ears are reversed!! I'll bet their hands and feet are backwards too! Maybe they filmed this thing through a mirror. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Jan 14, 2008 8:21 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I can't see the video from here, but ... are you sure that they aren't on > the 'right' side? ;) > > >From: "Jim Johnson" > > > >On 1/14/08, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > > > > I haven't been on in a while so this may have been posted already. > > > > > > Spridget 50 short video > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9XxfqtnS0&feature=related > > > > > > >Cute video! But they must have printed it backwards. The steering wheels > >are all on the wrong side! ;-) > > > >Cheers!! > >Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 09:25:32 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:25:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice A40 Pickup In-Reply-To: <052001c856c5$a9accf80$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <052001c856c5$a9accf80$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801140825o68af473s14bcdc5188c3e006@mail.gmail.com> You better scoop it up, Larry! Then you'll have one for each foot! ;-) Jim On Jan 14, 2008 9:53 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Nice looking A40 pickup on eBay: > > http://tinyurl.com/2jcaqu From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 14 09:25:57 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:25:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass Message-ID: I am 5'6" and weigh 127 lb. (size of ass unspecified), so my perspective on space is probably a lot different from many on this list. Spridgets are just right for me. ;-) Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 09:30:30 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:30:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801140830ha7280d6gda9fea0e8e64f7a3@mail.gmail.com> It's all in the mind, Michael. I'm 6 foot and 280 and I love my Spridget. Extra padding I guess ;-) Jim On Jan 14, 2008 10:25 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I am 5'6" and weigh 127 lb. (size of ass unspecified), so my perspective > on space is probably a lot different from many on this list. Spridgets are > just right for me. ;-) > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 14 09:30:53 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:30:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice A40 Pickup References: <052001c856c5$a9accf80$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0801140825o68af473s14bcdc5188c3e006@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <05a001c856ca$d5b60ec0$6401a8c0@Larry> I already have too many cars and not enough garage. Otherwise.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nice A40 Pickup You better scoop it up, Larry! Then you'll have one for each foot! ;-) Jim On Jan 14, 2008 9:53 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Nice looking A40 pickup on eBay: > > http://tinyurl.com/2jcaqu You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Jan 14 09:38:05 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:38:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6038D03D8@glitas07.garverinc.local> Well, I'm a full six footer tipping the scales at about 220 but my Mk2 (side curtain) Sprite fits me just fine. There's lotsa leg and shoulder room even for me...quite unlike my pal's TR4 or his RB Midget whose door tops push me toward the center. That's probably OK with the narrow folks but I'll stick with the side curtain cars any day. Don't get me wrong - I love most all LBCs and have since 1961. Jack Little Rock, Arkansas -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 10:26 AM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass I am 5'6" and weigh 127 lb. (size of ass unspecified), so my perspective on space is probably a lot different from many on this list. Spridgets are just right for me. ;-) Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 09:40:44 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:40:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 948 engine parts In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801132343q25d1cb61rf742c1dd4ca1aee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <986794.89456.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lester, I think you will find the GUYS on the list give you as good if not better deals then most of the other suppliers. I have used Ed, Paul, Peter and a few other members. They were all great. I try to use them first because of the help they have given me and others in the group. Vigil WFO Herb wrote: ...to guys on this list! We have a couple suppliers (new parts) on the list as well. Herb > Where should I go for engine info? Crank numbers, cam identifiers, > head casting numbers , etc.? > > Where should I go for 948 engine parts both stock and upgraded? > > I know about APT, Moss has no cranks for a 948 listed. > > Thanks all, > > Lester > > .. oh yeah, the crank has 2A829 and J38AX both cast into it. Mean > anything to anyone? You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 09:42:19 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:42:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801140823p5d65be04lc5b4a715440e646f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, that all makes sense then!! :) One of the most common remarks I get while driving my RHD, is "the steering wheel is on the wrong side", to which I always reply that it's on the "right" side. So, since we have that cleared up ... what do you mean by "through a mirror"? Are you talking "2 way mirrors" ? :) >From: "Jim Johnson" > >Nope. Definitely on the "wrong" side. If you could see it you would also >notice that everyone's face is reversed too. Their left and right eyes and >ears are reversed!! I'll bet their hands and feet are backwards too! >Maybe >they filmed this thing through a mirror. ;-) > >Cheers!! >Jim > >On Jan 14, 2008 8:21 AM, Robert Duquette >wrote: > > > I can't see the video from here, but ... are you sure that they aren't >on > > the 'right' side? ;) > > > > >From: "Jim Johnson" > > > > > >On 1/14/08, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > > > > > > I haven't been on in a while so this may have been posted already. > > > > > > > > Spridget 50 short video > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-9XxfqtnS0&feature=related > > > > > > > > > >Cute video! But they must have printed it backwards. The steering >wheels > > >are all on the wrong side! ;-) > > > > > >Cheers!! > > >Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 09:45:35 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:45:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6038D03D8@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: Hmmm! Are you guys trying to increase the market for Bugeye and mkI doors? :) >From: "Brashear, Jack, N" > >Well, I'm a full six footer tipping the scales at about 220 but my Mk2 >(side curtain) Sprite fits me just fine. There's lotsa leg and shoulder >room even for me...quite unlike my pal's TR4 or his RB Midget whose door >tops push me toward the center. That's probably OK with the narrow >folks but I'll stick with the side curtain cars any day. Don't get me >wrong - I love most all LBCs and have since 1961. >Jack >Little Rock, Arkansas > >-----Original Message----- >From: Michael Rowe > >I am 5'6" and weigh 127 lb. (size of ass unspecified), so my perspective >on space is probably a lot different from many on this list. Spridgets >are just right for me. ;-) > >Michael Rowe >Long Island, NY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 09:51:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:51:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 engine parts In-Reply-To: <986794.89456.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hmmm! For the sake of flow and nostalgia, do you think we could refer to Ed as 'Mary' from now on? Peter, Paul and Mary rings a bell for me! ;) http://www.peterpaulandmary.com/ >From: > I think you will find the GUYS on the list give you as good if not >better deals then most of the other suppliers. I have used Ed, Paul, Peter >and a few other members. From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jan 14 10:10:37 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:10:37 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> Message-ID: <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> Jus what are yous guys trying to say about not driving in inclement weather? :-) > Also, ask yourself how many folks drive their Sprites (Bugeye or later) in > inclement weather? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Michael Rowe'" ; "'spridget Chat Group'" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows > Most find it easier to put a Bugeye nose on a squarebodied Sprite. If > you're > interested in convenience, then that solution also gets you a real boot > lid, > and all the suspension and braking improvements. I'd have to look at the > contour of the roll up windows in comparison to the side screens on a > Bugeye > to see what modifications you'd need to do to make a top fit. Sounds like > a > lot of cockin' around to ruin a Bugeye, rather than to make a later > Spridget > with more conveniences look like a Bugeye with the simple addition of a > nose. > > Also, ask yourself how many folks drive their Sprites (Bugeye or later) in > inclement weather? Not too many. Personally, with decent sidescreens, I've > never had an issue with any reason to modify a Bugeye with any large > amount > of conveniences. > > WST > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Michael Rowe > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 9:33 AM > To: spridget Chat Group > Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows > > I have asked this before, but never gotten a convincing answer. > > Why does no one put a MK2+ windscreen and doors with roll-up windows on a > Bugeye Sprite? One suggestion is that the doors would fit, but the > windscreen bolts on differently. That would seem to be a relatively > straightforward reinforcement job, welding in new mounting points. Is the > shape of the A-pillar and shroud/dash very different? It looks like they > might be in pictures I have. > > Any thoughts? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of A-H Sprite small1.jpg] From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 10:12:33 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:12:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Blues - No LBC.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0801140912q4e7595ecxd10c2f15d4b926b7@mail.gmail.com> A group of us roots blues folks are trying to get a grave marker for Memphis Blues luminary Will Shade of the famous Memphis Jug Band. He died a pauper. We recently found his unmarked grave. If you are in the Chicago area and want to hear some great acoustic blues jamming including stars like Charlie Musselwhite, and if you want to support the effort........ For anyone into Delta Blues and some terrific roots music...... _________________________________________________________ The benefit concert to buy a gravestone for Will Shade is just two weeks away! Here's a copy of the concert poster, with the final lineup listed: http://arlotone.com/downloads/shade_benefit_poster_corrected.jpg Before the concert we're going to have Todd Kwait present his Chasin' Gus' Ghost documentary, followed by an open jam session, so it will be a good day for jug band music. I know most of you can't make it to Chicago for this show, but if you know anyone here, please recommend it to them! And you can sill visit willshadetribute.com to sign the guestbook or make a contribution. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 14 10:16:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:16:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] you tube Spridget 50 References: <43840a7e0801140603m1c23b047j1d5a2a55c22bad1b@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0801140823p5d65be04lc5b4a715440e646f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003201c856d1$45ad5480$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Nope. Definitely on the "wrong" side. If you could see it you would also > notice that everyone's face is reversed too. Their left and right eyes > and > ears are reversed!! I'll bet their hands and feet are backwards too! > Maybe > they filmed this thing through a mirror. ;-) Well, I do recall seeing a couple of segments on Top Gear where they reversed the video to make it look as if the Hamster was driving an RHD car when it was really LHD. Shame the front license plate gave it away... From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 10:20:56 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:20:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> Message-ID: <013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> Hey, I'd drive on year round if they didn't salt the roads around here. I drive my cars with a hardtop on until the first snow hits, no matter what the temps. A Sprite with a hardtop, decent door seals, and the proper heater duct hoses is quite comfortable down to 0F. You can't believe how much salt is put down. WI is bad... IL is absolutely ridiculous. Politics dictate that the roads be running with melted snow water within hours of a snowfall... -----Original Message----- From: Guy R Day [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:11 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Michael Rowe'; 'spridget Chat Group' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows Jus what are yous guys trying to say about not driving in inclement weather? :-) > Also, ask yourself how many folks drive their Sprites (Bugeye or later) in > inclement weather? Guy R Day From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 10:32:47 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:32:47 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: A series head ?? Message-ID: A lot of people have that amount of experience. I think the difference with DV was that he spent more time testing than the rest of them put together. He also did a lot of testing and product development with the leading companies of the day. Not least he was well connected with everyone worth knowing. Regards Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 22:32:20 GMT Standard Time, pilotrob at msn.com writes: Vizard has like almost 30 years building, racing, tuning Series A's? From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 11:09:16 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:09:16 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Nice A40 Pickup Message-ID: This is the other sort of A40 - Frank's is a Farina. Weslake 1330 not from the van In a message dated 14/01/2008 15:54:34 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Nice looking A40 pickup on eBay: http://tinyurl.com/2jcaqu Larry Daniels From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 11:21:56 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:21:56 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Message-ID: Is that similar to a W e s l a k e? Enquiring minds want to know. 1330. In a message dated 14/01/2008 03:30:34 GMT Standard Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: the westlake cover From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 11:25:54 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:25:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow! Not all in capitals ...! Is it losing its appeal? :) >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >Is that similar to a W e s l a k e? Enquiring minds want to know. > >1330. > > >In a message dated 14/01/2008 03:30:34 GMT Standard Time, >pythias at pacifier.com writes: > >the westlake cover From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 11:33:45 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:33:45 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system Message-ID: Ok thanks for all the responses on this. I can understand a temperature related failure but NOT how it recovers until the next time. Also after breaking down at about 10 minutes it will then for an hour or more. But next time the car is used (2 weeks) fails after 10 minutes. >From David says there is no obvious way to check the pickup is at fault apart from during the 'few minutes of failure' ? I can't remember what the tach does. I don't suspect it's the coil both because it recovers, which I've not known a coil do before and I expect a coil to produce a misfire rather than an absolute failure and not to stage a recovery. The last time I checked the price for a spare pick-up it was something like #65 or double that. I did manage to find a 'pattern' pickup for less money that I can try and fit but the DM pickup is integral to the base plate and specific to the DM distributor. So the list wisdom is that it may be the pickup or the coil? I can't just swap out the coil because it's specific to the amplifier pack which I'm loathe to fry. A combined coil and amplifier pack is about #200. I'd be happy to hear of a cheap source for a pickup for the Lucas DM. Weslake 1330 In a message dated 13/01/2008 20:48:16 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: I have had a distributor pickup in my 1987 Plymouth Duster 2.2 fail exactly in this manner. It is a temperature-related failure. Please realize that when it dies completely (as it probably will eventually), the car is dead unless you have a spare dizzy with you. I got lucky with mine. I was still trying to figure out the cause (difficult to do when I had roughly 2 minutes to diagnose it each time) when it did it twice in rush hour traffic in the Chicago Loop section of the Kennedy Expressway (misnomer if ever there was). Fortuantely, the first time was just as the shoulder was about to disappear and the second was just when the shoulder re-appeared. Thank goodness! I did make it home and the next morning, in my very own driveway, the thing refused to start at all. Better to be lucky than good. Anyhow, as far as diagnosis, I would say that, if the tach falls immediately to 0, it is in the dizzy. If it keeps a reading while the engine is still turning, it is most likely to be the coil. Please note that I have made no Lucas jokes whatsoever. The effort is killing me. David Lieb From theshoe5 at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 11:38:58 2008 From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Analyzer(no lbc) Message-ID: <007c01c856dc$ba968680$6401a8c0@alanu23tkucaxb> Anyone have any exp. with Sun or CAS Superguide engine analyzers? My hard drive is shot and I can replace it but don't have the installation software. Tech support for this machine ended three years ago so they are no help. I do have update software, but this looks for the old system before it will continue. Anyway around that? Don't want to spend big bucks on recovery from old drive and it's probably not possible anyway because of sever damage from past recovery attempts (yes it was me). This machine has a 4 gas analyzer that was great for setting up carbs, so I don't want to toss this machine unless I have to. It runs a 486dx 50mhz, OS Windows 3.1 Any suggestions? Alan '59 Sprite From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 14 11:48:22 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system References: Message-ID: <004f01c856de$0a169640$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >>> From David says there is no obvious way to check the pickup is at fault >>> apart from during the 'few minutes of failure' ? I can't remember what the tach does. Unfortunately, the tach is your best diagnotic tool at the moment. Since the tach is monitoring pulses at the coil, if the pickup ceases to turn the coil on and off, the tach needle will drop like a rock, even though the wheels are still turning the engine. OTOH, if the coil stops generating the high-voltage sparks, the tach should still register, since the low-voltage side of the circuitry is still functional. You could have a 12v test bulb with alligator clips that you could attach across the coil while it is down to see whether the switching is working. As a parallel load, it could affect the running of the engine, so I would not connect it until the failure occurred, although you could run the wires into the cockpit with a connector or a switch so that it could be "deployed" at a moment's notice. If your coil is easily disconnected, you could rush ut with a VOM and check the ohms across it with one side disconnected. Check it when fuctional for a baseline. David Lieb From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 11:52:19 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:52:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 65mm piston ?? Message-ID: Afternoon all (West coast excluded).. I have called Jahn's and they no longer make auto pistons. The pistons for the engine-in-a-box are 65 mm as are the bores in the block. This would be 80 thou over from my calculations or put another way: Stock 62.9 mm 2.477 iin Mine 65.0 mm 2.559 in. so, where can I get a set that is 65 mm? or maybe just one other Jahn 273 piston? Thanks all, Lester From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 14 11:57:14 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:57:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478B400A.31433.CCF31A@dmg.bossig.com> FWIW... I've been in the electronics game for over 50 years... Your symptoms are very indicative of a poor electrical solder joint or a hairline break in a wire. It gets hot... the connection opens... It cools down, the connection is made until it gets hot again... Standard trouble shooting practrice use to be to blow very cold air (like from the cans of "Dust Off") on various bits and pieces and see which one is the culprit.. On 14 Jan 2008 at 13:33, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >> I can understand a temperature related failure but NOT how it >> recovers until the next time. Also after breaking down at about 10 >> minutes it will then for an hour or more. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 12:25:02 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:25:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 65mm piston ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <018101c856e3$2aef7440$80ce5cc0$@com> Lester, I've bought piston sets, new and used, many times on Ebay. I'd say the supply is drying up a bit, as I find far fewer on a weekly basis than I used to. I might have a used set for you. Venolia will make up a set of new forged pistons for around $550 if I remember right. They can make them any size you need. WST -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ewing Lester Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 12:52 PM To: Spridgets net; Bugeye Subject: [Spridgets] 65mm piston ?? Afternoon all (West coast excluded).. I have called Jahn's and they no longer make auto pistons. The pistons for the engine-in-a-box are 65 mm as are the bores in the block. This would be 80 thou over from my calculations or put another way: Stock 62.9 mm 2.477 iin Mine 65.0 mm 2.559 in. so, where can I get a set that is 65 mm? or maybe just one other Jahn 273 piston? Thanks all, Lester From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 12:33:59 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:33:59 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Message-ID: Just been down to the garage and checked that W e s l a k e is not all in capitals so I'm still 'period' correct. 'Course if the list allowed photos I'd always include one. _www.weslake.co.uk_ (http://www.weslake.co.uk) 1330 In a message dated 14/01/2008 18:26:31 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: Wow! Not all in capitals ...! Is it losing its appeal? :) >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >Is that similar to a W e s l a k e? Enquiring minds want to know. > >1330. From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Mon Jan 14 12:39:10 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:39:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Instrument gaskets Message-ID: <3855.69.131.72.21.1200339550.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net> Can anyone tell me where to find the square edge gaskets (2 sizes)that go behind the glass for the instument panel gauges? Dick Byrne in NH From gjbranch at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 12:42:36 2008 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:42:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ducati: NO LBC Message-ID: <053e01c856e5$9d5c98d0$0201a8c0@DELL> I'm out of lurk mode to ask: I'm working on a 1966 Ducati single. Has a permanent magnet generator which I'm running through a 12V solid state rectifier/regulator. But I want a generator warning lite, which was originally run throught the old coil style regulator. Any thoughts on a cheap, tiny, simple means to do this? Geoff Branch '72 Meejit "Yellow Peril" (sleeping) '66 Ducati (don't ask me why) From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 14 12:49:43 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Instrument gaskets In-Reply-To: <3855.69.131.72.21.1200339550.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net> References: <3855.69.131.72.21.1200339550.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080114134853.0374e5c8@nosimport.com> Barrie Robinson go to http://www.britcot.com Peter C. ==== At 01:39 PM 1/14/2008, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: >Can anyone tell me where to find the square edge gaskets (2 sizes)that go >behind the glass for the instument panel gauges? >Dick Byrne in NH From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 12:57:44 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:57:44 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge Message-ID: Ok so I lied, and I hadn't been down to the garage at all..... W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 14/01/2008 19:38:57 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: >Just been down to the garage and checked that W e s l a k e is not all in >capitals so I'm still 'period' correct From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 14 13:13:57 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:13:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It was a good bluff though ... My grandfather started most of his tall stories with "I read in last night's newspaper ..." >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com >To: >CC: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Kohler Int'l Challenge >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:57:44 EST > > >Ok so I lied, and I hadn't been down to the garage at all..... > >W E S L A K E 1330 > >In a message dated 14/01/2008 19:38:57 GMT Standard Time, >robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > >Just been down to the garage and checked that W e s l a k e is not all >in > >capitals so I'm still 'period' correct From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jan 14 13:22:05 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <205cef430801140232l263434c2gc7367f6fa1036588@mail.gmail.com> References: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> <478AEF29.5050201@b2systems.com> <205cef430801140232l263434c2gc7367f6fa1036588@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <478BC46D.2050404@b2systems.com> Linda, Soda Blasting is just sand blasting but with Baking Soda, not your kitchen variety baking soda. This is a course soda, I would guesstimate 50-60 grit, it blows up on impact into dust. The advantages are that it has much less friction so there is very little to no heat generated by the blasting, that means you will not warp body parts. Because it is not a abrasive, you can actually see sand/grind marks in the metal that were put there prior to painting, I did not believe that part but its true, it leaves the metal new looking, not blasted looking. It also leaves a film on the part preventing rust formation for they say for up to 3 weeks, giving you time to work with the part without worrying about flash rust. It is 100% bio-degradeable so perfectly safe for the environment and super easy to clean up as you just hose it down into the gutter. For engine parts you don't have to worry about some glass beads in some nook-crannie that will dislodge and destroy your motor, the soda will dissolve. The negative is that it leaves a film on the part (that is a plus above) which you have to clean off prior to painting, its easy to clean up just a wet rag or garden hose if it is that big. Since it explodes on impact it is a one-use powder so it becomes more expensive than sand that you can recycle and re-use over and over. But for me the fact that I can't recycle it is a plus, no more laying out a big blue tarp to catch the sand and storing sand everywhere. mike Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Mike I haven't been on in a while due to family health issues but what > is soda blasting? > Thanks so much Linda > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 13:24:13 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:24:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendars In-Reply-To: <642665.82281.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0801131007n1b8f8bfch8f225d03e81203a4@mail.gmail.com> <642665.82281.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was tickled that the photo of my wife in the 68, ended up on her birth month. I ordered 3 this weekend, as well as a couple shirts. On Jan 14, 2008 10:21 AM, fastvee wrote: > What Jim said! I received my calendar on Friday and am > very happy with the quality. Thanks David and Larry! > John > Fogelsville, PA > > > --- Jim Johnson wrote: > > > I finally got mine late yesterday and it is indeed > > beautifully done and top > > quality. Many thanks again to David Lieb and Larry > > Daniels!! If you want a > > great Spridget calendar for 2008, this is the one! > > > > http://www.cafepress.com/spridget.199705866 > > > > -- > > Cheers!! > > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the > > Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! > > > > For info and registration... > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jan 14 13:26:56 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:26:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478BC590.2040400@b2systems.com> Eastwood sells a very (I MEAN VERY) expensive kit which consists of a few standard plumbing parts to convert a sand blaster to soda blaster, the difference is in the valving, soda requires much smaller valves as the powder is so fine, at least that is what I was told :) The soda blaster I got has much finer controls than the sand blaster I am used to, I am sure a sand blaster would work but I believe you would not be able to control the soda enough and would waste a lot, at least that is what I was led to believe. I got a blaster instead of converting because I did not own a sandblaster, my sandblaster although it has been here for over a decade is not mine, its a loaner from a friend, he is getting his sand blaster back now that I will soda from now on, his wife will hate one more "piece of junk" in the garage (her words) but I no longer need it. mike Robert Duquette wrote: > > LOL. > > I would have thought that soda blasting was done with the same machine > as sandblasting. I'll have to check that out. > > >> From: Mike Rambour >> I then went to area of the car where there is no bondo because I >> didn't wreck that part (this time in the late 1970's) From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jan 14 13:36:27 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:36:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-MidgetClub.org Web Site Message-ID: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> I am having a problem with the web page registration for the 50th party in Lake of the Ozarks. It looks like it has been hijacked and there are lots of pop ups and non-related junk on there. Just an FYI to the group. I was actually trying to register today and couldn't. http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/ Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 13:47:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:47:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-MidgetClub.org Web Site In-Reply-To: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801141247s744d24ecvffb9253730a496ec@mail.gmail.com> Mark et al.... Give it about 24 hours and try again. We just moved the site to a new server about 15 minutes ago and it may take the web a while to catch up! Mike Rambour is our webmaster and is aware of the situation. Will also be doing a lot of updates to the site ASAP. We'll getter done!! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On Jan 14, 2008 2:36 PM, Mark wrote: > I am having a problem with the web page registration for the 50th party in > Lake of the Ozarks. It looks like it has been hijacked and there are lots > of > pop ups and non-related junk on there. Just an FYI to the group. I was > actually trying to register today and couldn't. > > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 14 14:11:28 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:11:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bug-eyes for sale... NFI Message-ID: <478B5F80.14495.147D74E@dmg.bossig.com> I came across this ror those of you that may be interested... it's too far away for me... quote: 1-9-08 Sale: 4 Bugeyes & 1969 MK 4. Asking $ 5500 for all. Includes: Judson Supercharger, hardtop for the MK4 and much more. Charlie Mays, Loudon, TN 37774. Cell phone: 865-776-2027, Land Phone: 865-458-3779. Email: mk1mini at charter.net unquote: As I say.. NFI, yadda yadda... - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jan 14 14:12:24 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:12:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-MidgetClub.org Web Site References: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <009f01c856f2$28bd2d20$6401a8c0@personal> yep you are right of course. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 2:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-MidgetClub.org Web Site >I am having a problem with the web page registration for the 50th party in > Lake of the Ozarks. It looks like it has been hijacked and there are lots > of > pop ups and non-related junk on there. Just an FYI to the group. I was > actually trying to register today and couldn't. > > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/ > > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1222 - Release Date: 1/13/2008 > 12:23 PM From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 14 14:21:53 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:21:53 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ignition fault - Lucas electronic DM system Message-ID: Ok, I do seem to recall the tacho dropping like a stone. Friday night I'll run the engine in the garage (with the doors open) till the fault is manifest. I'm expecting it to be the pick-up rather than the coil. I'll also see if I can work through the advice on the MG Cars bulletin board and put my multimeter to some use. In a message dated 14/01/2008 18:48:33 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: Unfortunately, the tach is your best diagnotic tool at the moment. Since the tach is monitoring pulses at the coil, if the pickup ceases to turn the coil on and off, the tach needle will drop like a rock, even though the wheels are still turning the engine. OTOH, if the coil stops generating the high-voltage sparks, the tach should still register, since the low-voltage side of the circuitry is still functional. From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 14 15:24:54 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:24:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Cell Phone Use Message-ID: It seems reasonable that any distraction could add to the likelyhood of an accident. Cell phone use, jamming to the radio, arguing with the spouse, pets jumping around the car, young sweet things in halter tops and shorts on the sidewalk, sun glare in the early morning or late afternoon, that unexplained itch in the nether regions, a full bladder...need I go on? Ya drives yer car and ya takes yer chances. No laundry list of laws will fix that. The new generation of self driving cars that everyone seems to be working on may help, but I expect they will have their own problems, especially when mixed with LBCs and hotrods. Robert Houston In a message dated 1/13/2008 1:50:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: The thing that puts us at risk seems to be the cell phone conversation itself not the handheld vs. handsfree. That would imply that all the laws will not make us safer and the only reason that they are passing laws is to make us think we are safer and so we be live that the people in the capital are doing their jobs. Sort of like a federal carjacking law. I have been punted from behind by a guy on a cell phone. Sometimes I use a cell phone in the car, it is a Windows Mobile 6.0 phone, with a blue tooth headset and Voice Command dialing. Guilty as charged, but I don't spend a lot time on the phone. All that said, I am not sure what is the solution. But to find one we have to know what is the problem. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 14 15:27:28 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:27:28 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler Message-ID: In a message dated 1/13/2008 1:50:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Also, isn't there something a bit distasteful about naming one of the country's top vintage races involving many million-dollar-plus cars after a toilet? Hey, they made the engines for the Post Office three wheelers of the late 60's early 70's. But just look at the names of the bowl games now...the Brut Sun Bowl...does anyone besides Soave still use Brut? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 14 15:28:14 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:28:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Supercharger Kit Message-ID: <064d01c856fc$c1140080$6401a8c0@Larry> >From the MG list: I wanted to give folks a heads-up that Classic Motorsports and Moss are giving away a supercharger kit: http://classicmotorsports.net/supercharger/ _______________________________________________ This is for your choice of a MGA, MGB, TR6 or a 1275 Spridget. If you win, remember who told you about it. :)) Larry Daniels From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 15:35:02 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:35:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler References: Message-ID: <099f01c856fd$b44cdd30$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> His brother?? Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 15:38:42 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Instrument gaskets In-Reply-To: <3855.69.131.72.21.1200339550.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net> References: <3855.69.131.72.21.1200339550.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <478BE472.5070607@comcast.net> lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Can anyone tell me where to find the square edge gaskets (2 sizes)that go > behind the glass for the instument panel gauges? Somebody is making them but I just use the round thin O rings from the local hardware store. 4" & 2" ID. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 15:58:27 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> <013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> Message-ID: <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey, I'd drive on year round if they didn't salt the roads around here. Which leads me to ask why? I know salt! But you will hop in a $40,000 modern car and drive in the salt. A modern car you would not attempt to do rust repairs on yet for a couple hundred bucks you can put floors in a Spridget or just go out and buy 8 nice ones for the price of your truck. Yeah yeah, I am just like you, no Sprite in the salt yet I'll take a $25000 Ford out in it with no problem. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 14 16:21:19 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:21:19 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away Message-ID: In a message dated 1/14/2008 4:03:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: wanted to give folks a heads-up that Classic Motorsports and Moss are giving away a supercharger kit: http://classicmotorsports.net/supercharger/ Well, I went to the the classicmotorsport site and it sent me to the Moss sight to sign up, but this old fart couldn't find a link on the Moss Site. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Jan 14 16:22:40 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:22:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar Message-ID: You know... this is one beautiful calendar. And believe me, I am not a calendar guy. But I took the opportunity to give it a glance today....damn nice job whoever did it. One is on the way to my crib even as we speak. :) CapBob From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Jan 14 16:34:49 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:34:49 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Bug-eyes for sale... NFI Message-ID: "1/9/8 SALE" Frank Clarici bonanza!! :) CapBob From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 16:37:04 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:37:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> <013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <024a01c85706$6097a3b0$21c6eb10$@com> Well, the logic is... sure, I could take a half rusted out POS Sprite and do a half assed patch job on it... and drive it. But, a half assed job just makes it more difficult to do right some day. So, then if you do it right, you don't want to screw it up after putting all the effort & $ into it. Also, patched together Sprites are pretty dangerous. Your already at a disadvantage today, size, speed differential, mass, safety gear, visibility, etc. Add to that something in crappy enough condition that I wouldn't mind sacrificing it to the gods of road salt, then you have a car who's structural integrity I'd question. Also, a modern car is a commodity, a disposable tool (sort of like Horrible Freight stuff...requisite Chinese content).When I buy a regular car, I expect to sacrifice it to mileage, wear and tear, door dings, getting parked at airports, decreasing value, etc. It's just factored into the cost of living. The Sprite is entertainment. It's an investment of sorts (Depending on model & condition). It's family. It's a source of camaraderie. Its economical & fun to drive. Most of all, it's not just transportation. I like Peter's idea of an MGB GT for a winter beater. There are tons of them around, and you always can find many for sale. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:58 PM To: Wm. Severin Thompson Cc: 'Guy R Day'; 'Michael Rowe'; 'spridget Chat Group' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey, I'd drive on year round if they didn't salt the roads around here. Which leads me to ask why? I know salt! But you will hop in a $40,000 modern car and drive in the salt. A modern car you would not attempt to do rust repairs on yet for a couple hundred bucks you can put floors in a Spridget or just go out and buy 8 nice ones for the price of your truck. Yeah yeah, I am just like you, no Sprite in the salt yet I'll take a $25000 Ford out in it with no problem. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jan 14 16:41:52 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:41:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home><00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com><006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork><013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> <024a01c85706$6097a3b0$21c6eb10$@com> Message-ID: <07bb01c85707$0a9ae4d0$53997e4c@HP> > " speed differential" Hey, it's not my fault that these modern cars can't keep up. From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Mon Jan 14 16:46:48 2008 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:46:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080114184557.046eaff8@littlebitcountry.com> Contest doesn't start till Wednesday Dave At 06:21 PM 1/14/2008, you wrote: >In a message dated 1/14/2008 4:03:11 PM Mountain Standard Time, >spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > >wanted to give folks a heads-up that Classic Motorsports and Moss are >giving >away a supercharger kit: http://classicmotorsports.net/supercharger/ > > > >Well, I went to the the classicmotorsport site and it sent me to the Moss >sight to sign up, but this old fart couldn't find a link on the Moss Site. > >Regards, > >Robert B. Houston > >74.5 MGBGT >73 MG Midget From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 17:44:20 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:44:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080114184557.046eaff8@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <114601c8570f$c468fd40$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Kelvin Dodd, Global Sourcing Engineer (active on mgs list) just told me same thing, Dave. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 14 18:16:08 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:16:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <478BC590.2040400@b2systems.com> Message-ID: Sand is cheap, and it works. From kvacek at ameritech.net Mon Jan 14 18:41:39 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:41:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting References: Message-ID: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> As one who did his share of blasing with silica sand when he was young and immortal, I have one word for that -- Silicosis It's just not worth the risk. Sure, it won't happen soon and it probably takes a pretty long exposure, but why mess with sand nowadays ? Karl > Sand is cheap, and it works. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 14 18:43:36 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:43:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> Message-ID: > Silicosis Not a problem outdoors, with a respirator. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 14 19:00:35 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:00:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> References: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> Message-ID: <1B9874F5B830419980291F3AD957F6F2@Home> > As one who did his share of blasing with silica sand when he was young and > immortal, I have one word for that -- So what are the alternatives and their advantages - sand, soda, walnuts, beads, etc.? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 19:27:39 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:27:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Official "50 Years of Spridgets" Calendar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801141827n1842c569j4ec48bf9f0f961a3@mail.gmail.com> Would you guys stop saying how nice the calendar is! My son ordered two (one for me) but hasn't sent mine yet. I wanna' see FROGGI!!!!! Herb...waiting From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 19:31:57 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:31:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: <099f01c856fd$b44cdd30$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <539797.34171.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- shop at justbrits.com wrote: > His brother?? > > Anon First of all no self respecting Italian ever used a product by "Faberge". Second of all, coming from a guy who was wearing "Eau Miller Lite" when I met him, that really hurts. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jan 14 19:33:53 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:33:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080115023353.ZWSE14424.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Have you ever looked at the Kohler line of wares lately? These are not your father's white Sunday throne any more. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RampantNM at aol.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:27 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In a message dated 1/13/2008 1:50:22 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Also, isn't there something a bit distasteful about naming one of the country's top vintage races involving many million-dollar-plus cars after a toilet? Hey, they made the engines for the Post Office three wheelers of the late 60's early 70's. But just look at the names of the bowl games now...the Brut Sun Bowl...does anyone besides Soave still use Brut? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 19:39:41 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:39:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting References: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> <1B9874F5B830419980291F3AD957F6F2@Home> Message-ID: <02f501c8571f$e1df0030$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Cabinet (I've done MGTD rear fenders in mine!) or Chem dip!! From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 19:41:03 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:41:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler References: <20080115023353.ZWSE14424.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <031f01c85720$12e09fe0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Neither are the price tags, Chris (wife is looking)!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 19:44:08 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:44:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler References: <539797.34171.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <033501c85720$810b23a0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> NOT when I got oughta the car, Ron!!! And it was in PURE self-defense!!!!! "Something" had to be used to OVERCOME YOUR "aroma"!!!! LOL From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 19:46:57 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: <539797.34171.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <539797.34171.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <478C1EA1.8060607@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > > First of all no self respecting Italian ever used a > product by "Faberge". Hey I have an uncle who retired from Faberge,and I had umpteen bottles of Brute on my dresser as a kid. Didja know it came in quart size bottles? along with teeny tiny bottles, I had a whole set. But like you Ron, I never, ever used a drop of the stuff. I prefer ode de 30 wt -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 19:52:26 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:52:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801141852w11233f46o2e7ba79d6662a8bd@mail.gmail.com> You know, it just isn't right having to say I'm damn near twice your weight and seven inches longer...I mean taller! Herb From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 14 20:02:59 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:02:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Size of ass In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801141852w11233f46o2e7ba79d6662a8bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801141852w11233f46o2e7ba79d6662a8bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02cc01c85723$25259130$6f70b390$@com> Ditto. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:52 PM To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridget Chat Group Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Size of ass You know, it just isn't right having to say I'm damn near twice your weight and seven inches longer...I mean taller! Herb From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 20:04:14 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:04:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros Message-ID: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> WHY can't they make anything right? Not the chinks this time the taiwanese. Picture my NOS bumper, NOT a repro, but I had to get repro over riders. I go to install the POS over riders on my NOS bumper and they just do not fit. I check my originals on the bumper, they fit fine, the new ones look just like the old ones. BUT when you look close, the metal bracket welded inside that holds the captive nut, they whole bracket is off by 3/16" thus you have to modify your NOS bumper AND the POS taiwanese crap over riders. Now that I modified the bumper, it doesn't sit well on the bumper iron. So I had to adjust that, now that I adjusted the iron, it doesn't sit well on the car, so now I have to modify the bumper mounting brackets. All because some slant eyed MF can't read. No I did not get them from mo$$, I would never buy from them. These came from Vic-Shit. Why do they do this? other than the guts welded in the wrong spot, (all 4 are the same) they look semi decent. I'm sure they will turn to rust before the summer gets here but having them rechromed was out of this world. I hope to find NOS over riders in my future searches for parts at swap meets. BTW, to have an AH hub cap rechromes, one that does not need any metal work and has no dents is $100, that $400 for 4 hub caps. That's a nice set of fancy wheels. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 14 20:14:27 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:14:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: <478C1EA1.8060607@comcast.net> References: <539797.34171.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <478C1EA1.8060607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <478BB493.31044.294284E@dmg.bossig.com> The finest perfume in the world bar none.... The smell of Hot Castrol R............. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 14 20:14:33 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:14:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> > No I did not get them from mo$$, I would never buy from them. > These came from Vic-Shit. You won't buy from Moss where at least some of the employees own and drive LBCs, yet you will buy from Victoria British which is a boiler room operation from one end to the other?!?!?! I do NOT understand Italian logic... From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jan 14 20:15:05 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:15:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015801c85724$d43213f0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Hey Frank, A friend of mine was telling me the other day that he is in the process of setting up a chrome plating business that will do custom work at a much lower cost. He has figured out that he can ship parts to the plater and even with return shipping be nearly 50% of the current average cost locally. Yep, you guessed it, he wants to ship the parts to CHINA! I told him they would be rust before they got back but I think he is going to go ahead with it. What do you think Frank? Mark Nashville . BTW, to have an AH hub cap rechromes, one that does not need any metal work and has no dents is $100, that $400 for 4 hub caps. That's a nice set of fancy wheels. -- Frank Clarici From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jan 14 20:21:43 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:21:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-MidgetClub.org Web Site In-Reply-To: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <021401c856ed$2358a8f0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <478C26C7.7090805@b2systems.com> No, no no no...its working just fine ! Trust me, its fine :) Geez, the thing breaks for 1 hour 15 minutes and people notice! What happened is we changed server and the registration page pointed to a site "test.sprite-blabla" instead of www.sprite-blabla . That worked in the past since I was doing DNS for the "test" sub-domain but once Jim changed the DNS to the new server, it went bye-bye. I noticed it within 10 minutes of it happening and fixed it within barely over 1 hour (I noticed it while still at work), its all good. It was not hijacked, when it tried to go to test.... it went to Register.com instead and those were the graphics you saw since register.com takes care of the domain name. All is well, just a minor hiccup, now Jim has control of it so changes are coming. mike Mark wrote: > I am having a problem with the web page registration for the 50th party in > Lake of the Ozarks. It looks like it has been hijacked and there are lots of > pop ups and non-related junk on there. Just an FYI to the group. I was > actually trying to register today and couldn't. > > http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/ > > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 20:24:30 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:24:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <478BC46D.2050404@b2systems.com> References: <69cq7p$29s4e6@email.mtu.edu> <478AEF29.5050201@b2systems.com> <205cef430801140232l263434c2gc7367f6fa1036588@mail.gmail.com> <478BC46D.2050404@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801141924p4de4c997w528f97ec7b374db9@mail.gmail.com> No one's mentioned this aspect.... Over thirty years ago, I had my first Bugeye "sand blasted". Aside from both doors getting caved-in from excessive pressure, the guy did a great job. Done by a fellow named 'Lefty'...had one arm. Well, I'm STILL vacuuming sand. I've had a number of other BEs (and other rigs) soda blasted. Great way to go. Just hose it down, nothing left to haunt you for years to come. Always clean with solvent just prior to prime/paint; like someone said...'film'. Herb From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jan 14 20:26:18 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:26:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting In-Reply-To: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> References: <002c01c85717$c65a7360$6e01a8c0@KARL> Message-ID: <478C27DA.1050305@b2systems.com> I second that word BIG TIME second it... And I also agree sand is cheap, but not the labor to fix a warped panel because you went a little too aggressive with sand, granted if you are doing parts and not body then that wont happen. Sand is also a mess to contain and just not worth the hassle now that I have discovered soda. For me its: 1. Soda 2. Glass beading in my cabinet 3. big things like frames, take them somewhere (not worth my time) mike Karl Vacek wrote: > As one who did his share of blasing with silica sand when he was young and > immortal, I have one word for that -- > > Silicosis > > It's just not worth the risk. Sure, it won't happen soon and it probably > takes a pretty long exposure, but why mess with sand nowadays ? > > Karl > > > >> Sand is cheap, and it works. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 14 20:40:42 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:40:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: <033501c85720$810b23a0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <167127.71800.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- shop at justbrits.com wrote: > "aroma"!!!! LOL I can't argue, unfortunately. It was 94 degrees at Blackhawk that day and we'd spent most of it in 3 layers of Nomex with balaclavas, helmets and gloves on. What was your excuse ;-)? Now, there was the necessary pre-wash of certain "Team Trash" t-shirts prior to crew distribution due to 2nd hand smoke smell.... Ron (I mean, Anon) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 20:46:34 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:46:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > You won't buy from Moss where at least some of the employees own and drive > LBCs, yet you will buy from Victoria British which is a boiler room > operation from one end to the other?!?!?! Their parts suck, their CEO lied to me in person, and I get most of my parts from vendors on this list. But every now and then I have to buy repro crap, so I deal with the rubber that rots away in a month and file to fit parts. How do you know the people at vic-shit don't drive LBCs? Sure if I worked at a Kia dealer, I would drive A Kia. Well maybe not but I bet I would get a discount on the parts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 20:51:35 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:51:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> <015801c85724$d43213f0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <016001c85729$ecef98e0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Well I ain't Frank but that gut must like to BURN money, Mark!!! He IS certifiable. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 20:52:07 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:52:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Just for Ed.. 80 thou over 948 pistons?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ed didn't like my pesky metric stuff soo... ;-) Lester On Jan 14, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Ewing Lester wrote: > Afternoon all (West coast excluded).. > > I have called Jahn's and they no longer make auto pistons. The > pistons for the engine-in-a-box are 65 mm as are the bores in the > block. This would be 80 thou over from my calculations or put > another way: > > Stock 62.9 mm 2.477 iin > > Mine 65.0 mm 2.559 in. > > > so, where can I get a set that is 65 mm? > Thanks all, > > Lester From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 14 20:58:18 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:58:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: > I do NOT understand Italian logic... I've always had much, much better luck with VB than with Moss. The Moss people are lazy jerks on the phone, in addition to having crappy merchandise. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 21:00:33 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:00:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler References: <167127.71800.qm@web30510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01b401c8572b$2dbd4c90$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> 1] THAT day = http://www.justbrits.com/spine02.jpg 2] which resulted in = http://www.justbrits.com/spine03.jpg 3] which resulted in (as of 11:00AM CST today) in Doc declaring me geminately physically disabled!! 4] which SUCKS!!! & Vicodin has quite being a relief UNLESS dosage doubled which WILL cause me to run OUT early (measured 'scripts caps per day)!! 'nough said?? The REAL Ed From pdx.pete at verizon.net Mon Jan 14 21:03:33 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:03:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005801c8572b$995ae3e0$61096f47@DBKF4T81> Last summer I stopped by VB and picked up a couple of parts. Most of the complex is dedicated to truck parts (Long Motor Corp.)and the LBC portion is somewhat of an afterthought. Along with a couple of racks of floor mats, etc., there are 2-3 LBCs on display by the parts counter on the LBC side of things. The gentleman behind the counter was nice enough, and proficient at his job, but did not seem to be an enthusiast. He did mention that the owner of the company "kinda liked those little cars". This visit took place in July and I didn't see any LBCs in the lot. Now, why did I make a trip to VB? Well, because it two-and-a-half days into a visit with my mother, who resides in an assisted living facility about 10 minutes away from VB .... AND I HAD TO GET OUT HER APARTMENT FOR A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE I WENT TOTALLY FRIGGIN' INSANE, that's why. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 14 21:05:30 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:05:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <03ed01c8572b$deeec7a0$0401a8c0@midget> >> You won't buy from Moss where at least some of the employees own and >> drive LBCs, yet you will buy from Victoria British which is a boiler room >> operation from one end to the other?!?!?! > > Their parts suck, their CEO lied to me in person, and I get most of my > parts from vendors on this list. But every now and then I have to buy > repro crap, so I deal with the rubber that rots away in a month and file > to fit parts. > How do you know the people at vic-shit don't drive LBCs? > Sure if I worked at a Kia dealer, I would drive A Kia. Well maybe not > but I bet I would get a discount on the parts. Frank, My experience has been that, when I call Moss, the person I talk to knows what an MGB is and can intelligently discuss the actual part in question. When I have called VB, I get some lady who has a hard time spelling MGB, let alone Austin-Healey and has no idea what any of the parts are. OTOH, it HAS been a long while since I have talked to either one, since I prefer to deal with PPP whenever possible and British Racing Green in Delaware. David Lieb From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jan 14 21:10:07 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:10:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net><03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1298a320aa2e7ca3cfaa.20080114201007.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Boy, I'd like to see that. Frank working at a Kia dealership! I've been to Vic-Shit when I was in engineer training. My hotel was just a freeway exit away from them. I went to the counter to ask about some parts I wanted to look at before buying. They would pull parts to look at, but did not know what they were selling. Vic-Shit sells truck parts and other parts as well. There was a British sports car in the lobby (yuch, a Spitfire), but I did not see any in the parking lot. One thing I can say for them is they were the only ones at the time that had any 100-4 pushrods for the valves on my engine. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Frank Clarici > David Lieb wrote: > >> You won't buy from Moss where at least some of the employees own and >> drive >> LBCs, yet you will buy from Victoria British which is a boiler room >> operation from one end to the other?!?!?! > > Their parts suck, their CEO lied to me in person, and I get most of my > parts from vendors on this list. But every now and then I have to buy > repro crap, so I deal with the rubber that rots away in a month and file > to fit parts. > How do you know the people at vic-shit don't drive LBCs? > Sure if I worked at a Kia dealer, I would drive A Kia. Well maybe not > but I bet I would get a discount on the parts. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 14 21:17:50 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys Message-ID: <478C33EE.5030009@comcast.net> I bought a set of Lucas H4 7" headlamps off Ebay UK. They also have the city lights along with the hi & lo beams. But the lamps did not come with the city bulbs, the small running lamp bulb. Any of you guys across the pond know what type of bulb and or socket fits these headlamps? It's not the H4 bulb, it is the smaller bulb and/or socket. Mine just has a hole in the headlamp below the H4. I can't find anything over here that would work. Taping an 1895 bulb to the back of the headlamp is not an option ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 14 21:29:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:29:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net><03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget><478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> <1298a320aa2e7ca3cfaa.20080114201007.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <02e001c8572f$33c5f570$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Yeah, but I will GUARENTEE he'd have the "wrenchs" straighted out and bustin' their A**es off!!!! LOL From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jan 14 22:21:35 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:21:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <03ed01c8572b$deeec7a0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> <03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net> <03ed01c8572b$deeec7a0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <478C42DF.8030708@b2systems.com> Besides being only 1.5 miles from my house. What I like about Moss is walking in and ask for a starter BY PART NUMBER and when they ask me what kind of car its for and I tell them its a 1953 Singer and they take the starter off the counter and say sorry we don't carry parts for those. UH, I asked for it by part number, I know exactly that it will fit, its the same Lucas number and I have to convince the salesdroid that it really will fit in my car. He must have told me a dozen times that there would be no return on it once I got home and found it did not fit. It fit perfectly. mike From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 14 22:32:00 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:32:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> Message-ID: > All because some slant eyed MF can't read. if9e.6i7! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 15 06:45:02 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:45:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Kohler In-Reply-To: <478C1EA1.8060607@comcast.net> Message-ID: I have used Brute. It doesn't taste as good as Aqua-Velva though. ;) >From: Frank Clarici > >Ron Soave wrote: > > > > First of all no self respecting Italian ever used a > > product by "Faberge". > >Hey I have an uncle who retired from Faberge,and I had umpteen bottles >of Brute on my dresser as a kid. Didja know it came in quart size >bottles? along with teeny tiny bottles, I had a whole set. >But like you Ron, I never, ever used a drop of the stuff. >I prefer ode de 30 wt > > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Tue Jan 15 06:46:47 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:46:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <005301c8577d$13056bb0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> All, I have three questions. I've been reading the e-mails about the pros and cons of reproduction parts: some good, some bad. There is a market for "reproduction" cars (e.g. Caterham 7 look-alikes). How is it decided what look-alike to build? The AN5 being so much sought after, why is there no look-alike of this vehicle? Seems like a good idea to me. Any body got any thoughts on the matter? Michael From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 15 07:07:45 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:07:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <4218570.1200406065938.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Caterhams are not reproductions but a continuation of the Lotus 7 many iterations which have further developed. If you research Caterhams you will find that there have been dozens of various models. Other Lotus 7 ARE reproductions and they lend themselves to such activity due to their relatively simple engineering nature: a space-frame with an aluminum skin with simple fiberglass fenders and nose. We all know of the Cobra and there are other reproductions such as those of Jaguar D and C Types, Porsche Speedsters and 356's, and the GT-40 and others including the Cobra Daytona Coupe. Most every single one of those listed command tall prices. The Frogeye was reproduced for a time as well in England, I believe in the 1980's. Surely it would have continued if there was a market. What gets reproduced is always based on the market. But the market for Spridgets in general is a hands-on markjet in which most buyers/owners desire to build, restore, putter-with their own cars as opposed to the owner who wishes to purchase a car that is already done/restored/needs nothing. For some it is personal where they wish to create a car that reflects their own personality with certain modifications, colors, options while others see a greater value in buying a car and heaping more money on it, purely for the experience of working on it, than what a good original would cost them. The work experience is lost on the latter. I've walked on both sides of the street and both are fun. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Conn >Sent: Jan 15, 2008 8:46 AM >To: spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >All, > >I have three questions. I've been reading the e-mails about the pros and >cons of reproduction parts: some good, some bad. There is a market for >"reproduction" cars (e.g. Caterham 7 look-alikes). How is it decided what >look-alike to build? The AN5 being so much sought after, why is there no >look-alike of this vehicle? Seems like a good idea to me. > >Any body got any thoughts on the matter? > >Michael From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jan 15 07:11:41 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:11:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net><03c901c85724$c0c5b240$0401a8c0@midget> <478C2C9A.6020105@comcast.net><03ed01c8572b$deeec7a0$0401a8c0@midget> <478C42DF.8030708@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <005101c85780$8d627710$6401a8c0@personal> He was just trying to save you from your self Mike. We all know who your enemy is, some guy called Mike. LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros > Besides being only 1.5 miles from my house. What I like about Moss is > walking in and ask for a starter BY PART NUMBER and when they ask me > what kind of car its for and I tell them its a 1953 Singer and they take > the starter off the counter and say sorry we don't carry parts for those. > > UH, I asked for it by part number, I know exactly that it will fit, > its the same Lucas number and I have to convince the salesdroid that it > really will fit in my car. He must have told me a dozen times that > there would be no return on it once I got home and found it did not fit. > > It fit perfectly. > > mike > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1223 - Release Date: 1/13/2008 > 8:23 PM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 15 07:13:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:13:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <478C42DF.8030708@b2systems.com> Message-ID: Seems like the aging memory thing has struck cars too. I guess a Singer knew the words and the current Hummers do not? RD >From: Mike Rambour > > I tell them its a 1953 Singer > mike From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 07:43:48 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:43:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <005301c8577d$13056bb0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> References: <005301c8577d$13056bb0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: There have been several, I believe there was one made on the Isle of Skye, and one other, but the name escapes me. Those in the UK can be more helpful On Jan 15, 2008 7:46 AM, Michael Conn wrote: > All, > > I have three questions. I've been reading the e-mails about the pros and > cons of reproduction parts: some good, some bad. There is a market for > "reproduction" cars (e.g. Caterham 7 look-alikes). How is it decided > what > look-alike to build? The AN5 being so much sought after, why is there no > look-alike of this vehicle? Seems like a good idea to me. > > Any body got any thoughts on the matter? > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 15 07:54:35 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:54:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye windows In-Reply-To: <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> References: <38F00A249B05488EB2FB858F255F37BF@Home> <00d401c856c5$c93ad040$5bb070c0$@com> <006c01c856d0$62b5ff60$9f099356@tairswork> <013701c856d1$d4e9e0f0$7ebda2d0$@com> <478BE913.10607@comcast.net> Message-ID: .. because the use of modern materials and rust proofing techniques make the chance of terrible rust less likely?? Lester On Jan 14, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >> Hey, I'd drive on year round if they didn't salt the roads around >> here. > > Which leads me to ask why? > I know salt! But you will hop in a $40,000 modern car and drive in the > salt. A modern car you would not attempt to do rust repairs on yet > for a > couple hundred bucks you can put floors in a Spridget or just go > out and > buy 8 nice ones for the price of your truck. > Yeah yeah, I am just like you, no Sprite in the salt yet I'll take a > $25000 Ford out in it with no problem. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 15 07:59:15 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:59:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WAAAYYYY TOO EARLY FOR THAT BAD A PUN!! Oww!! My brain hurts!! Lester On Jan 15, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Seems like the aging memory thing has struck cars too. I guess a > Singer > knew the words and the current Hummers do not? > > RD > >> From: Mike Rambour >> >> I tell them its a 1953 Singer From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 15 08:03:33 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:03:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was (no subject), now reproductions References: <005301c8577d$13056bb0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <00b001c85787$cc9c0e80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > There have been several, I believe there was one made on the Isle of Skye, > and one other, but the name escapes me. Those in the UK can be more helpful Thinking of the Isle of Wight Frogeye, perhaps? I think Jay hit the nail on the head quite eloquently. The demand and the price have not yet outstripped the supply. Ten years from now there might well be a market willing to pay $30,000 for a reproduction of the Bugeye, but while you can still get a very good original for under $10,000, there is no way to make a living at it. A new RWA bodyshell would cost me more than a complete nearly concours example would and that is without the cost of a donor car and the parts that would need renewed. On the other side of the coin, we have now seen decent Bugeyes auction for over $20,000. The price of a running restorable RWA has gone up from $1500 to $3000 over the last ten years or so and it will keep going up as supply drops. We have grown accustomed to always being able to find another good Spridget at a ridiculously low price, but those days are coming to an end. Get them now while you still can... By a remarkable coincidence, my acquisition of Crash's Bugeye leaves me in the position of having nowhere to keep a lovely bronze yellow RWA Midget made a month before the Sabrinas started. VERY solid floors, but needs new lower A-pillars and outer sills as well as the usual crop of dings. Engine original to the point of still having a functional air pump. Disk wheels. Spent the last 19 years sitting up on blocks in a Chicago garage. I was planning to make it a very nice original RWA, but, as indicated above, it is actually cheaper for me to buy Crash's yellow Bugeye than to complete the project, especially since I do not weld. I really do not want to sell it, but I have nowhere to put it and it deserves a good home. David Lieb From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jan 15 08:03:24 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Reproduction Message-ID: <69cq7p$2cob4j@email.mtu.edu> I have been thinking about what a Spridget might look like if produced today. I've been pondering this as I restore my '66 Sprite. For example, the cockpit surround is held to the body with about 20 fasteners consisting of T-nuts, washers, lock washers and nuts. They are difficult to install because there isn't much finger room so install time would be considered long for an assembly line. Even the surround consists of an aluminum extrusion with vinyl glued to the extrusion (in the case of my '66). Quite labor intensive compared to a piece of plastic and those omni present plastic push fasteners used these days. Carpeting consisting of a dozen individual pieces - some bound, some glued??? Carpet snaps ?? Our cars weren't designed "for manufacturability" as they are today. I would guess that today the many individual body stampings would be combined into fewer, but more complex pieces. It would be fun to redo the Sprite design with an emphasis on manufacturability just to see what savings in labor could be realized. If you have wrestled with those #10 nuts and bolts in places and positions that are almost impossible you know what I am talking about!! Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite Mid MI http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jan 15 08:06:47 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:06:47 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <005301c8577d$13056bb0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <002501c85788$3ffaa9e0$17118656@tairswork> Try 'UK Kit Cars' in Google. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Michael Conn" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > There have been several, I believe there was one made on the Isle of Skye, > and one other, but the name escapes me. > Those in the UK can be more helpful > > On Jan 15, 2008 7:46 AM, Michael Conn wrote: > >> All, >> >> I have three questions. I've been reading the e-mails about the pros >> and >> cons of reproduction parts: some good, some bad. There is a market for >> "reproduction" cars (e.g. Caterham 7 look-alikes). How is it decided >> what >> look-alike to build? The AN5 being so much sought after, why is there >> no >> look-alike of this vehicle? Seems like a good idea to me. >> >> Any body got any thoughts on the matter? >> >> Michael >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 15 08:11:43 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:11:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <9580538.1200409903323.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Michael, I can answer this one from experience. Actually it is not Caterham 7 lookalikes, it is Lotus Seven lookalikes as Caterham is a continuation of the original Lotus seven series three. The answer to why there is not really any Bugeye lookalikes is that their were so many made and they are still relatively cheap to purchase in any condition even mint originals don't seem to go past $15K. I know that someone will throw in a BJ auction result here. Those are outlyers in the scheme of things. Bugeyes are finally beginning to climb now but so is inflation so I don't know. There were roughly 240 series one Lotus Sevens made - worth when you can locate a "real" one $40K. Series two Lotus Sevens about 1200 were produced. Worth of series two and three Sevens around $25K again if you locate a "real" one. It is a matter of numbers produced and most Lotus Sevens were raced from new and that eliminates a great number of them to attrition. They made a fibreglas Bugeye in the '80s. I don't know what ever became of that. It looked to be pretty decent. Hope this helps. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Conn >Sent: Jan 15, 2008 8:46 AM >To: spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >All, > >I have three questions. I've been reading the e-mails about the pros and >cons of reproduction parts: some good, some bad. There is a market for >"reproduction" cars (e.g. Caterham 7 look-alikes). How is it decided what >look-alike to build? The AN5 being so much sought after, why is there no >look-alike of this vehicle? Seems like a good idea to me. > >Any body got any thoughts on the matter? > >Michael >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jan 15 08:27:25 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:27:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on cheapo repros In-Reply-To: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> References: <478C22AE.9060409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3BD5D90A82C34017AD544A2A1876B97A@Home> > BTW, to have an AH hub cap rechromes, one that does not need any metal > work and has no dents is $100, that $400 for 4 hub caps. Anyone had any experience with these guys or other similar? A hubcap will fit easily in a shallow plastic bin from Wal-Mart. http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/index.html Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 08:36:24 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:36:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but very interesting 59 Lawrence Cabriolet Coachbuilt on ebay Message-ID: <205cef430801150736x1ac3ead0ub2258b93b21415d7@mail.gmail.com> List, I don't remember how I got this eBay #140198670568 for a mint 59 Lawrence Cabriolet Coachbuilt I didn't even know what it was till I read it. Very cool car and will be in many magazines soon as they completed a photo shoot recently. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140198670568#ebayphotohosting I belong to a VW online forums and I'm as interested in LBC's as I am in German engineering. This car is hand built and I received a reply from this owner (see the questions section of the listing) and he said the mustache over the licenceplate had to be custom made buy hand as a replacement. The car is all aluminium and hand built very impressive. Enjoy Linda From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jan 15 09:42:38 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:42:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys References: <478C33EE.5030009@comcast.net> Message-ID: <07f901c85795$a4455550$53997e4c@HP> I got them from British Wiring, I think. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys >I bought a set of Lucas H4 7" headlamps off Ebay UK. > They also have the city lights along with the hi & lo beams. > But the lamps did not come with the city bulbs, the small running lamp > bulb. > Any of you guys across the pond know what type of bulb and or socket > fits these headlamps? > It's not the H4 bulb, it is the smaller bulb and/or socket. > Mine just has a hole in the headlamp below the H4. > I can't find anything over here that would work. > Taping an 1895 bulb to the back of the headlamp is not an option ;) > -- > Frank Clarici From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jan 15 10:38:09 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:38:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have found a Datsun 5-speed transmission. James Gruber says that Paul Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to learn what he has? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 15 10:54:32 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:54:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Instrument gaskets Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080115115422.038aa828@nosimport.com> Barrie Robinson makes them go to http://www.britcot.com Peter C. ==== At 01:39 PM 1/14/2008, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: >Can anyone tell me where to find the square edge gaskets (2 sizes)that go >behind the glass for the instument panel gauges? >Dick Byrne in NH From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 10:54:49 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:54:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801150954w4fdc6e0aj9a30e350ab45d5ac@mail.gmail.com> Paul make a superior kit, IMHO. Call him: Morriservice, Portland, OR (No Web Site) Paul Asgeirsson at Morriservice in Portland Oregon manufactures a 5-Speed conversion kit for Spridgets that utilizes the Datsun 210 transmission. This kit differs in installation from the one sold by Rivergate in that it uses all Datsun clutch components. I have no experience with this kit but all indications are that it equals or exceeds the quality of the Rivergate conversion. I do have experience dealing with Paul and can tell you that he is a great person. Phone: 503-978-3998 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 15 10:54:52 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:54:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] UFO - not likely LBC Message-ID: In this day and age, everyone and their dog has a cellphone that takes videos. Nothing can happen that you won't find on the web later, so how does this happen? http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/01/14/ufo-texas.html From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jan 15 11:09:55 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I have his kit in my bugeye and its excellent. The full-Datsun clutch may not be such a big deal for a mild buld 1275, but if you plan on upping the stock HP, the Datsun clutch is better. The kit is complete, any advice you need is free of charge. Simply put, Paul knows his stuff and backs it up. I can't speak on the Rivergate kit as I have no experience with it. Paul's and his kit get an A+ from me. Be sure to check into the little kit he has for restoring the rear scroll-seal clearance. Clever, cheap, and effective. Glen Byrns >I have found a Datsun 5-speed transmission. James Gruber says that Paul >Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from >Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to >learn what he has? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jan 15 11:18:13 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:18:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Request for Info Message-ID: <68vr7k$2aodq9@email.mtu.edu> I need a picture of the fire wall of a '66 Sprite from the inside of the car. Specifically, I think I have misplaced 2 brackets that attach to the fire wall through the transmission hump trim panel. Then two dash board support pieces attach to the brackets on one end. On the other end they attach to the lower edge of the instrument dash. At least I think this is how things are oriented. Do the brackets attach to the fire wall with #10 screws and nuts? If anyone can sent me a pic of this area of a '66 Sprite, I'd appreciate it. Once I see the brackets, I suspect I can fabricate a pair. Thanks Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Jan 15 11:33:00 2008 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:33:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Bike Rack? In-Reply-To: <47891AA3.9040109@woozy.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801112044p6bcf9cey40bacab0ef8c982f@mail.gmail.com> <47891AA3.9040109@woozy.com> Message-ID: <000301c857a5$0f1369d0$ae00a8c0@PaulsToshiba> I use to have a ski rack that mounted to the trunk lid or my 65 worked good. Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 15 13:03:01 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:03:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <040f01c857b1$a278c1f0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Yes it is, Glen !!!! I use it. Wish he had one for Big Healey 6 cyls. !!! And MG XPAG motors. !! Ed From pelliott at innercite.com Tue Jan 15 13:34:36 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:34:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com> I'm another happy Morris Service, Paul A. customer.. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson I have his kit in my bugeye and its excellent. The full-Datsun clutch may not be such a big deal for a mild buld 1275, but if you plan on upping the stock HP, the Datsun clutch is better. The kit is complete, any advice you need is free of charge. Simply put, Paul knows his stuff and backs it up. I can't speak on the Rivergate kit as I have no experience with it. Paul's and his kit get an A+ from me. Be sure to check into the little kit he has for restoring the rear scroll-seal clearance. Clever, cheap, and effective. Glen Byrns >I have found a Datsun 5-speed transmission. James Gruber says that Paul >Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from >Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to >learn what he has? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From gjbranch at comcast.net Tue Jan 15 13:39:27 2008 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:39:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com> Message-ID: <001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> Me too. Paul is great and deserves your business. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson > I'm another happy Morris Service, Paul A. customer.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of Glen Byrns > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson > > I have his kit in my bugeye and its excellent. The full-Datsun clutch may > not be such a big deal for a mild buld 1275, but if you plan on upping the > stock HP, the Datsun clutch is better. The kit is complete, any advice > you > need is free of charge. Simply put, Paul knows his stuff and backs it up. > I can't speak on the Rivergate kit as I have no experience with it. > Paul's > and his kit get an A+ from me. Be sure to check into the little kit he > has > for restoring the rear scroll-seal clearance. Clever, cheap, and > effective. > > Glen Byrns > > >>I have found a Datsun 5-speed transmission. James Gruber says that Paul >>Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from >>Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to >>learn what he has? >> >> Michael Rowe >> Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 13:46:16 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:46:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com> <001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801151246t6c73a232u83ca0a3339665c9f@mail.gmail.com> All this fauning over P.A. is getting a little sickening... Yes, I've used him and he provides great quality and terrific information. But you should all realize that his nose runs, his feet smell, and he don't love Jesus very much! ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 15 13:56:09 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:56:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson Message-ID: <478CAD69.2132.12FEB87@dmg.bossig.com> If your nose runs and your feet smell... Then you were built upside down.... - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 14:09:56 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:09:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801150954w4fdc6e0aj9a30e350ab45d5ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910801150954w4fdc6e0aj9a30e350ab45d5ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I bought Derfs kit, but have yet to install it. I have to finish the 68 first, THEN I can start on MY car!!! On Jan 15, 2008 11:54 AM, derf wrote: > Paul make a superior kit, IMHO. > Call him: > > Morriservice, Portland, OR (No Web Site) > Paul Asgeirsson at Morriservice in Portland Oregon manufactures a > 5-Speed conversion kit for Spridgets that utilizes the Datsun 210 > transmission. This kit differs in installation from the one sold by > Rivergate in that it uses all Datsun clutch components. I have no > experience with this kit but all indications are that it equals or > exceeds the quality of the Rivergate conversion. I do have experience > dealing with Paul and can tell you that he is a great person. > > Phone: 503-978-3998 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 15 14:32:59 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:32:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com><001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> <43840a7e0801151246t6c73a232u83ca0a3339665c9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006d01c857be$34bc0840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Do you want those bolts or not! Shape up, now! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson > All this fauning over P.A. is getting a little sickening... Yes, I've used > him and he provides great quality and terrific information. But you should > all realize that his nose runs, his feet smell, and he don't love Jesus very > much! ;-) > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > For info and registration... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jan 15 14:51:08 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:51:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801151246t6c73a232u83ca0a3339665c9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com><001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> <43840a7e0801151246t6c73a232u83ca0a3339665c9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6c60a123a8a10ef0a16368a.20080115135108.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> you should > all realize that his nose runs, his feet smell, and he don't love Jesus > very > much! ;-) > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Hey! My brothers and I used yo say that when we were kids! Spridgiteers never grow up. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Jan 15 15:06:05 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:06:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <662848.89093.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paul Aggierson - Here is what i have to say..... I have bought parts and had Paul do work on my car. He is the best and does good work. One thing you have to watch out for is - Do Not Help - He charges more - At least in my case any way.....LOL Vigil Brad Fornal wrote: I bought Derfs kit, but have yet to install it. I have to finish the 68 first, THEN I can start on MY car!!! On Jan 15, 2008 11:54 AM, derf wrote: > Paul make a superior kit, IMHO. > Call him: > > Morriservice, Portland, OR (No Web Site) > Paul Asgeirsson at Morriservice in Portland Oregon manufactures a > 5-Speed conversion kit for Spridgets that utilizes the Datsun 210 > transmission. This kit differs in installation from the one sold by > Rivergate in that it uses all Datsun clutch components. I have no > experience with this kit but all indications are that it equals or > exceeds the quality of the Rivergate conversion. I do have experience > dealing with Paul and can tell you that he is a great person. > > Phone: 503-978-3998 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 15 15:08:12 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:08:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] car decals -- even some LBC stuff Message-ID: <07cc01c857c3$1eef5620$6401a8c0@Larry> This site has a bunch of old racing decals. Some are pretty neat. http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=1872&alph=ALL&dec=ALL Ron Soave, about 1/3 of the way down this page on the site below is a decal for the "Grasshopper Racing Team". http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=2706&alph=ALL&dec=ALL LAD From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 15:10:07 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:10:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson In-Reply-To: <006d01c857be$34bc0840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <201562.21625.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001401c857a1$d573daf0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <006901c857b6$0dbbe060$62dc670a@edgewireless.com> <001401c857b6$ba801640$0201a8c0@DELL> <43840a7e0801151246t6c73a232u83ca0a3339665c9f@mail.gmail.com> <006d01c857be$34bc0840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801151410ode3c230jc703e1b322036cb3@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 15, 2008 3:32 PM, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Do you want those bolts or not! Shape up, now! Doh!!! Should have waited till I got my order to send disparaging words!! ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 15 17:42:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:42:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson References: <662848.89093.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01a401c857d8$b1376850$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Paul is NOT the only one, Vigil>VBG>!!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 15 17:49:46 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:49:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Request for Info References: <68vr7k$2aodq9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <01cc01c857d9$b0f2c8c0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> See if you can see anything from below, Tim. http://www.justbrits.com/pet/pet1.htm Can't do better as I can't get down far enough!!! Car has been BEAUTIFULLY repaired and is For Sale again!!! Contact me for phone # and other info!!! One of the most UN-real and COMPLETE cars I have EVER seen!!! ORIGINAL 46+K miles by ORIGINAL Owner!! Ed From p.herder at cox.net Tue Jan 15 19:05:43 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:05:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay Message-ID: <8592C5B4F8AF43F59C11FFCDA05E5330@PaulVU> Sold @ $1,027.55 USD !!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/datsun-rivergate-210-5-speed-FX-transmission- sprite_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33733QQihZ007QQitemZ170184151243QQrdZ1QQss pagenameZWDVW or http://tinyurl.com/33jvqh Are they out of their Vulcan minds??? If I wasn't going to use mine with my 66 Sprite I would be very tempted to sell it!!! Paul Herder 66 Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 15 19:15:50 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:15:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Reproduction In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2cob4j@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$2cob4j@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <478D68D6.9090408@comcast.net> Timothy H. Collins wrote: > It would be fun to redo the Sprite design with an > emphasis on manufacturability Tim, that's easy, just pick up one of those chinese MGs ;) Be glad we can still work on our cars. My daughter had a Saturn, if a clip on the door panel broke, you had to buy a whole door panel (or use a drywall screw to hold it on) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 15 19:55:34 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:55:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay References: <8592C5B4F8AF43F59C11FFCDA05E5330@PaulVU> Message-ID: <0bb901c857eb$44347a00$6401a8c0@actualshop> HOLY SMOKES, Paul!!! Wonder WHAT that buyer is smokin'??????? <> I would already have Listed!!!! LOL There ARE more!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 15 20:00:50 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:00:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay References: <8592C5B4F8AF43F59C11FFCDA05E5330@PaulVU> <0bb901c857eb$44347a00$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <043001c857ec$0059c280$0401a8c0@midget> > I would already have Listed!!!! LOL There ARE more!! But the supply is dwindling fast. Face it, there was no other socially redeeming value to a Datsun 210. Many of them were not 5-speeds. Most have been crushed. The Morris guys are after them, too. This one had a mere 40,000 miles on it. No, I would not have paid that price, but the day will come when we will think it was worth it. From shelden3 at pldi.net Tue Jan 15 20:41:13 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:41:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay References: <8592C5B4F8AF43F59C11FFCDA05E5330@PaulVU><0bb901c857eb$44347a00$6401a8c0@actualshop> <043001c857ec$0059c280$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <009a01c857f1$a4e0f440$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Wow. Makes me feel like my 200.00 find last winter was worth while! I'd been searching for a while though locally. Seems most had been crushed according to the yards as anything more than 10 years old was wasting space. Charile >> I would already have Listed!!!! LOL There ARE more!! > > But the supply is dwindling fast. Face it, there was no other socially > redeeming value to a Datsun 210. Many of them were not 5-speeds. Most have > been crushed. The Morris guys are after them, too. This one had a mere > 40,000 miles on it. No, I would not have paid that price, but the day will > come when we will think it was worth it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as shelden3 at pldi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1979 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Jan 15 21:04:02 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:04:02 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay In-Reply-To: <009a01c857f1$a4e0f440$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: <348889.73652.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> There is always the toyota 5 spd conversion... more butchery involved.. but better ratios.. Dellow in Sydney Australia makes the "kit"...I use that word loosely coz it's really just a bellhousing. Not as straightforward a job as the datsun... but if you can be bothered, it's a nice drive and you only ever need to use the clutch for standing starts! still plenty of toyota 5 speeds too...even though they go into just about anything over here... V8 guys go for the steel Supra box, 6 & 4 bangers go for the Celica & T-18 Corolla alloy boxes. the toyota overdrive is .86:1 compared to the datsuns .82:1, but the ratios from 1 - 3 are better sports car ratios than the datsuns. Andy Brisbane Charlie wrote: Wow. Makes me feel like my 200.00 find last winter was worth while! I'd been searching for a while though locally. Seems most had been crushed according to the yards as anything more than 10 years old was wasting space. Charile >> I would already have Listed!!!! LOL There ARE more!! > > But the supply is dwindling fast. Face it, there was no other socially > redeeming value to a Datsun 210. Many of them were not 5-speeds. Most have > been crushed. The Morris guys are after them, too. This one had a mere > 40,000 miles on it. No, I would not have paid that price, but the day will > come when we will think it was worth it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as shelden3 at pldi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1979 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jan 15 21:10:00 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:10:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay In-Reply-To: <348889.73652.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <009a01c857f1$a4e0f440$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <348889.73652.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20080115201000.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Datsun Tranny on Ebay right now at $355. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Andy Webster > There is always the toyota 5 spd conversion... more butchery involved.. > but better ratios.. Dellow in Sydney Australia makes the "kit"...I use > that word loosely coz it's really just a bellhousing. > Not as straightforward a job as the datsun... but if you can be > bothered, it's a nice drive and you only ever need to use the clutch > for standing starts! > still plenty of toyota 5 speeds too...even though they go into just > about anything over here... V8 guys go for the steel Supra box, 6 & 4 > bangers go for the Celica & T-18 Corolla alloy boxes. > the toyota overdrive is .86:1 compared to the datsuns .82:1, but the > ratios from 1 - 3 are better sports car ratios than the datsuns. > Andy > Brisbane > > Charlie wrote: > Wow. > Makes me feel like my 200.00 find last winter was worth while! I'd been > searching for a while though locally. Seems most had been crushed > according > to the yards as anything more than 10 years old was wasting space. > > Charile > > >>> I would already have Listed!!!! LOL There ARE more!! >> >> But the supply is dwindling fast. Face it, there was no other socially >> redeeming value to a Datsun 210. Many of them were not 5-speeds. Most >> have >> been crushed. The Morris guys are after them, too. This one had a mere >> 40,000 miles on it. No, I would not have paid that price, but the day >> will >> come when we will think it was worth it. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as shelden3 at pldi.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 1979 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Jan 15 23:10:52 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:10:52 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] hif-6 tuning Message-ID: <650986.56267.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, I further bastardised my sprite on the weekend, fitting a 1 3/4" HIF SU and a titan manifold. just fits under the bonnet, I mean just... I had to omit the phenolic spacers to make it happen. (it is a newish SU with the higher profile black cap on the dashpot top..a slightly earlier HIF has the flatter cap and would be less of a clearance issue) It goes ok... but needs some tweaking. the low end response is better than with my tired twins, but if I floor it there is a big old flatspot, and the engine has to catch up before the power kicks back in. Does this mean I am running too rich, or need a different needle? Or have I just gone a bit over the top going that big? (engine is a 1293cc, with a bit of a cam, and headers) The carb doesn't have the piston lifting pin for tuning, but i used a skinny screwdriver to lift the piston a fraction and set the idle mixture to somewhere in the range. any tips appreciated. Andy --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jan 16 02:46:13 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:46:13 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] hif-6 tuning In-Reply-To: <650986.56267.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801c85824$a24e3340$0401a8c0@Laptop> Hi Andy, I use that same set-up on my 1330 Sprite, using a HIF44 and titan manifold First, it sounds like your Titan is one for a Mini, not a Spridget. The Spridget ones hold the carb at a slightly lower angle so there is no clearance problem and there is still room for the spacer (which also acts to reduce heat transfer to the carb). The Spridget ones are much rarer and quite hard to find, but the mini ones can be made to work as you have discovered! As for flat spots - which needle are you using? I have changed to using a BDL needle but I suspect it is still a bit on the weak side. The real answer is to get a rolling road session, which I will do soon. - I just need to change to my 1.5 roller rockers first, then it is ready! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andy Webster Sent: 16 January 2008 06:11 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] hif-6 tuning Greetings, I further bastardised my sprite on the weekend, fitting a 1 3/4" HIF SU and a titan manifold. just fits under the bonnet, I mean just... I had to omit the phenolic spacers to make it happen. (it is a newish SU with the higher profile black cap on the dashpot top..a slightly earlier HIF has the flatter cap and would be less of a clearance issue) It goes ok... but needs some tweaking. the low end response is better than with my tired twins, but if I floor it there is a big old flatspot, and the engine has to catch up before the power kicks back in. Does this mean I am running too rich, or need a different needle? Or have I just gone a bit over the top going that big? (engine is a 1293cc, with a bit of a cam, and headers) The carb doesn't have the piston lifting pin for tuning, but i used a skinny screwdriver to lift the piston a fraction and set the idle mixture to somewhere in the range. any tips appreciated. Andy --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1227 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 01:40 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 05:05:19 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:05:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] hif-6 tuning In-Reply-To: <650986.56267.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <650986.56267.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801160405v1b4b6d81nf513e89886a511e3@mail.gmail.com> First, if your butterfly has the poppet valve, get rid of it. Next, dashpot oil is an important part of the tuning. Needle, spring, and oil act in concert. Best to use a rolling road, like previously stated. But, you can get close with trial and error and then fine tune on the dyno. BDL sounds about right for the needle. You'll find that to be a great carb once you get used to tuning it. Cheers, Derf From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 16 06:59:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:59:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away In-Reply-To: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C01081C31@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca> Message-ID: And only for residents of the US of A. :( Good luck! RD >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Yealy > >Contest doesn't start till Wednesday > >Dave > >At 06:21 PM 1/14/2008 > > > >wanted to give folks a heads-up that Classic Motorsports and Moss are > >giving away a supercharger kit: >http://classicmotorsports.net/supercharger/ From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 07:28:14 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:28:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> List, Just thought I'd e-mail to let you know how much I enjoy reading the e-mails which come to me relating to matters concerning our LBC's. As I've said before, I can't always immediately follow the more technical information. I now have two or three books, and can research things, if needs be. (I can also always ask the List for help.) My 1960 AN5 is currently locked away in a friend's garage until the good weather comes back. I shall bring it home when our garage is finished construction. (I'll then be able to talk to it each day! That's an interesting point, do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? My car and I discuss matters about what life was like when we were both young. Kinda bitter sweet memories.) Michael Thank you. Michael From daredelvis at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 07:48:30 2008 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:48:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed on eBay In-Reply-To: <531383560801160643i1a81ea50i6747ff9770ab816a@mail.gmail.com> References: <009a01c857f1$a4e0f440$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> <348889.73652.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <0a0a0a0a.20080115201000.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <531383560801160643i1a81ea50i6747ff9770ab816a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <531383560801160648m185a431bq139fb5921c59c3d0@mail.gmail.com> When I saw that add my initial impression was that it included the rivergate kit. It does not say that in the add, but I wonder if that mistaken impression was part of the bidding frenzy. Seems like they have been going for a little over $500. Brian From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 08:06:27 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:06:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: I don't talk to my car, but your email got me to wondering, what if my Bugeye was like Christine? Big huge bonnet to fall down on you and draw blood, and I DO have some George Thorogood, so Bad To The Bone *could *be playing in the background. Hell, for all the times I've pushed that car around, I at least should have a rust free body by now... On Jan 16, 2008 8:28 AM, Michael Conn wrote: > List, > > Just thought I'd e-mail to let you know how much I enjoy reading the > e-mails > which come to me relating to matters concerning our LBC's. As I've said > before, I can't always immediately follow the more technical information. > I > now have two or three books, and can research things, if needs be. (I > can > also always ask the List for help.) > > My 1960 AN5 is currently locked away in a friend's garage until the good > weather comes back. I shall bring it home when our garage is finished > construction. (I'll then be able to talk to it each day! That's an > interesting point, do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? My car and I > discuss matters about what life was like when we were both young. Kinda > bitter sweet memories.) > > Michael > > Thank you. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 16 08:08:05 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:08:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away References: Message-ID: <010701c85851$98a785d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > And only for residents of the US of A. :( Wanna rent an address? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 16 08:09:31 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:09:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <010b01c85851$cca8d0f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > My 1960 AN5 is currently locked away in a friend's garage until the good > weather comes back. I shall bring it home when our garage is finished > construction. (I'll then be able to talk to it each day! That's an > interesting point, do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? My car and I > discuss matters about what life was like when we were both young. Kinda > bitter sweet memories.) Ya know, you could put a cellphone into it, set it to autoanswer, and call it every day ;-) Gotta be cheaper than handing one to a teenager! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 16 08:10:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:10:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <011101c85851$f5416cc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> ...> Hell, for all the times I've pushed that car around, I at least should have > a rust free body by now... Sorry, Spridgets do NOT reverse entropy. Darn it! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 16 08:20:00 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:20:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away In-Reply-To: <010701c85851$98a785d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: My sister-in-law lives and works in Manhattan, but that doesn't make me a resident. >From: "David Lieb" > >>And only for residents of the US of A. :( > >Wanna rent an address? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 16 08:22:55 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:22:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brad! Your body is rusty? I guess all of those tetanus shots have done me some good! RD >From: "Brad Fornal" > >Hell, for all the times I've pushed that car around, I at least should have >a rust free body by now... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 16 09:09:21 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:09:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away References: Message-ID: <011d01c8585a$28668f10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > My sister-in-law lives and works in Manhattan, but that doesn't make me a > resident. Heck, sign her up and suggest to her what she can do with it when she wins. From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 10:59:06 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:59:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000c01c85869$7d3959a0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Brad, You're worrying me! I think I know what those of us with AN5's can do. I saw the true story of Christine (which, incidentally, was filmed at it happened in real life). At the end Christine is crushed into a metal block. The very least scene shows her reforming! (Nobody knows what happened after that because everybody involved with the filming of that part of Christine's life mysteriously disappeared.) I'd like to suggest you try it first, and, if your AN5 reforms without an evil spirit, I'll do the same. Bad To The Bone! I'm not too confident about that. How about Sympathy For The Devil by The Stones. (Anybody with kidney stones could volunteer to sing this for you, er, I mean, us.) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) I don't talk to my car, but your email got me to wondering, what if my Bugeye was like Christine? Big huge bonnet to fall down on you and draw blood, and I DO have some George Thorogood, so Bad To The Bone could be playing in the background. Hell, for all the times I've pushed that car around, I at least should have a rust free body by now... On Jan 16, 2008 8:28 AM, Michael Conn < mconn19221 at roadrunner.com> wrote: List, Just thought I'd e-mail to let you know how much I enjoy reading the e-mails which come to me relating to matters concerning our LBC's. As I've said before, I can't always immediately follow the more technical information. I now have two or three books, and can research things, if needs be. (I can also always ask the List for help.) My 1960 AN5 is currently locked away in a friend's garage until the good weather comes back. I shall bring it home when our garage is finished construction. (I'll then be able to talk to it each day! That's an interesting point, do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? My car and I discuss matters about what life was like when we were both young. Kinda bitter sweet memories.) Michael Thank you. Michael _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 11:04:12 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:04:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <010b01c85851$cca8d0f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <001301c8586a$3349c770$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> David, I'm a little out of touch. What's a cell phone? (The man who delivers my messages has to run along behind the car until I give him an envelope to deliver.) Michael From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 11:10:07 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:10:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <011101c85851$f5416cc0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <001801c8586b$09878340$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> David, What's "entropy". (Is it the reverse of being crushed or, maybe, it refers to a soft top on an AN5: "I think I'll put the entropy on the car!") Michael From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 11:13:21 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:13:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <001f01c8586b$7a2529e0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, Is "RD" your car? If so, giving it tetanus shots must have done it some good. (Were they expensive, and is a garage licensed to do it?) Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > Brad! > > Your body is rusty? I guess all of those tetanus shots have done me some > good! > > RD > >>From: "Brad Fornal" >> >>Hell, for all the times I've pushed that car around, I at least should >>have >>a rust free body by now... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 16 11:31:00 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:31:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <001801c8586b$09878340$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: I'm going to regret this, I know, but ... He mistyped 'AN' trophy. ( as in AN5 ) >From: "Michael Conn" > >David, > >What's "entropy". (Is it the reverse of being crushed or, maybe, it >refers >to a soft top on an AN5: "I think I'll put the entropy on the car!") > >Michael From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 11:31:52 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:31:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 Message-ID: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW 21 window bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie sound file used in the video. Being I am a member of the Samba site forums as well I posted this link today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 Samba site and wouldn't you know today the owners are offering the bus to those who donated parts & labor to purchase it for 10K before they put it on eBay with a reserve of 10K. For those who are familiar with the 21 window or 23 window VW bus years up to 1967 Split Window design they can fetch up to 60K in restored condition and I've seen them get near 10K as a completely rusted out shell so I would not be a bit surprised they do get 10K on eBay as someone with money to burn would be interested. Link to the Samba forums on this topic. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=274550 Example of an eBay auction of a 56 23 window http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fully-Restored-1956-Deluxe-Volkswagen-Microbus_W0QQitemZ200192065325QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200192065325 Although I would love to see the look on the face of a Barrett-Jackson auctioneer as well as the audience if it ever got there. I wish our Spridgets would fetch this kind of money as they are even better than the VW J Enjoy, Linda 1962 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 11:45:06 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:45:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] car decals -- even some LBC stuff In-Reply-To: <07cc01c857c3$1eef5620$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <07cc01c857c3$1eef5620$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <205cef430801161045k63019672rba9f6961205eb124@mail.gmail.com> I love the stickers : ) Linda On Jan 15, 2008 5:08 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > This site has a bunch of old racing decals. Some are pretty neat. > > http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=1872&alph=ALL&dec=ALL > > > > Ron Soave, about 1/3 of the way down this page on the site below is a > decal > for the "Grasshopper Racing Team". > > > http://www.cartype.com/page.cfm?id=2706&alph=ALL&dec=ALL > > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Wed Jan 16 12:19:17 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:19:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <000d01c85874$b0482d70$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, Okay, I understand perfectly what you're saying. Having said that, and it's just a thought, as it were, in passing, wouldn't it have been better, if you'd had the tetanus shots. I can't help thinking these shots are for human beings: not cars. I think the garage could well have been lying to you when they told you they could do it. It was probably distilled water. (Oh, dear, you didn't let them give your body distilled water shots, did you? If so, can you now jump start trucks etc?) I'm totally confused, and hope I've not got it all wrong. Michael From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jan 16 12:32:39 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:32:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <002b01c85876$8e6925e0$6401a8c0@personal> At the very least you best go speek with her weekly just to let her know you still care and have not forgotten. Of course we all speek to them, sometimes they will even talk back. Like when they tell you their name. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Conn" To: "spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:28 AM Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) > List, > > Just thought I'd e-mail to let you know how much I enjoy reading the > e-mails > which come to me relating to matters concerning our LBC's. As I've said > before, I can't always immediately follow the more technical information. > I > now have two or three books, and can research things, if needs be. (I > can > also always ask the List for help.) > > My 1960 AN5 is currently locked away in a friend's garage until the good > weather comes back. I shall bring it home when our garage is finished > construction. (I'll then be able to talk to it each day! That's an > interesting point, do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? My car and I > discuss matters about what life was like when we were both young. Kinda > bitter sweet memories.) > > Michael > > Thank you. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 > 5:39 PM From Weslake1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 16 13:04:35 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:04:35 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson Message-ID: His company is listed in the back of one of the Spriget books.. Weslake 1330 In a message dated 15/01/2008 17:38:38 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: Paul Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to learn what he has? From dwramsey at att.net Wed Jan 16 13:38:50 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:38:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080116203921.D51EB1879D5@autox.team.net> Linda, I helped with that project. Some of those bullet holes came from my gun. I could point your friends to some much better project cars in the same area. A couple that even still glow in the dark. Crash This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW 21 window bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie sound file used in the videohttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pvanwig at charter.net Wed Jan 16 13:40:45 2008 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:40:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asggierson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003e01c85880$11e2e600$9300a8c0@PaulsToshiba> Paul Asgeirsson Morris Service 1 (503) 978-3998 PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:05 PM To: mdrowe at optonline.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson His company is listed in the back of one of the Spriget books.. Weslake 1330 In a message dated 15/01/2008 17:38:38 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: Paul Aggierson makes a 5-speed conversion kit for Spridgets different from Rivergate's. Paul doesn't Google. Anyone know how to find him and to learn what he has? You are subscribed as pvanwig at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 16 15:05:29 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:05:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <478E7FA9.7010002@comcast.net> Michael Conn wrote: > do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? I sure do but I can't say those words on this list ;) Some people have names for their cars, I call mine names all the time. But with so many Sprites in my past, I just call them by year now. My wife calls them by color, but the colors are now repeating. 3rd white sprite, 2nd blue Sprite, and now the second green Sprite. Had a couple of red ones too. And I spoke to all of them. You #^*$ SOB of a @^&*%$ foreign car, WTF is wrong THIS TIME? Or did you mean talk nice to the car like Come on baby, please start you %$#(*^ pos. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 16 16:44:25 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:44:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. Message-ID: Hi Frank, Just got back from 2 days in Scotland with work so catching up with a lot of list e-mail and other stuff parcels of car bits (oh yeah, the family as well). When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop doesn't have a turbocharger because it's a jet? Got to spend some time with my Uncle who is a bigger shot in the UK oil industry than I realised - usually manage to chat with him for 5 mins at family funerals. When I was a kid me and my Dad went to tow him home one time. I think my Dad had a Morris Minor or Traveller at this time and my Uncle had a Hillman Minx ( I think he ran it off the road) the Minx ended up going through a lot of fence posts (in rapid succession), my Uncle told me which wrote it off). I last saw my nepthew in 1984 when he was propably still in nappies. He is now a drilling engineer on an oil rig. We call these side lights. If you tape over the hole the bowl rusts inside. Ideally I could do with a part number or a close up photo to be sure of getting the right parts. Regards Daniel Got to fly up and back on small planes 54 seats, 29 seats n a message dated 15/01/2008 04:26:52 GMT Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: I bought a set of Lucas H4 7" headlamps off Ebay UK. They also have the city lights along with the hi & lo beams. But the lamps did not come with the city bulbs, the small running lamp bulb. Any of you guys across the pond know what type of bulb and or socket fits these headlamps? It's not the H4 bulb, it is the smaller bulb and/or socket. Mine just has a hole in the headlamp below the H4. I can't find anything over here that would work. Taping an 1895 bulb to the back of the headlamp is not an option ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jan 16 16:44:59 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:44:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <478E7FA9.7010002@comcast.net> References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <478E7FA9.7010002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2b190a73fbca6bbe8a56320a.20080116154459.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Frank, I said it before, I'll say it again. You kill me. I had to laugh out loud. Which one of us has NOT said things like you describe? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Frank Clarici > Michael Conn wrote: >> do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? > > I sure do but I can't say those words on this list ;) > Some people have names for their cars, I call mine names all the time. > But with so many Sprites in my past, I just call them by year now. > My wife calls them by color, but the colors are now repeating. > 3rd white sprite, 2nd blue Sprite, and now the second green Sprite. > Had a couple of red ones too. And I spoke to all of them. > You #^*$ SOB of a @^&*%$ foreign car, WTF is wrong THIS TIME? > Or did you mean talk nice to the car like Come on baby, please start you > %$#(*^ pos. > > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 16:50:41 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:50:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <2b190a73fbca6bbe8a56320a.20080116154459.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <478E7FA9.7010002@comcast.net> <2b190a73fbca6bbe8a56320a.20080116154459.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801161550n680c9b8fwfbfeaa68df3fa078@mail.gmail.com> THAT is why Frank can get these cars up and running so quickly!! Here I was thinking it was superior mechanical knowledge and ability! Its NOT!! Now I realize it's superior vocabulary!!! No wonder there are so many sailors with working LBCs! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/16/08, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > Frank, > I said it before, I'll say it again. You kill me. I had to laugh out > loud. Which one of us has NOT said things like you describe? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > Frank Clarici > > Michael Conn wrote: > >> do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? > > > > I sure do but I can't say those words on this list ;) > > Some people have names for their cars, I call mine names all the time. > > But with so many Sprites in my past, I just call them by year now. > > My wife calls them by color, but the colors are now repeating. > > 3rd white sprite, 2nd blue Sprite, and now the second green Sprite. > > Had a couple of red ones too. And I spoke to all of them. > > You #^*$ SOB of a @^&*%$ foreign car, WTF is wrong THIS TIME? > > Or did you mean talk nice to the car like Come on baby, please start you > > %$#(*^ pos. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 16 16:51:52 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:51:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas 45DM4 distributor Message-ID: Hi list, It'll be Friday before I get to fault find the ignition problem on my car. However, I've managed to find a brand new pickup which arrived in the post while I was away in Scotland so I can fit my spare and still have a spare!. Even better I 'won' a Lucas 45DM4 distributor at something like #26 which was a little more than I really wanted to pay but their scarce and I only have 1 spare at present. However, it arrived while I was away but guess what I thought I was bidding on a used unit and it is NOS brand new in the box (including the pick-up) so as soon as I have some money.............(yeah, or even if I don't I'll do it anyway) I'll be sending it off for re-curving and drilling and tapping for a scew fit cap. Regards Daniel From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 16 18:57:23 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:57:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? I've never heard jet prop. From nory1 at adelphia.net Wed Jan 16 20:44:01 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:44:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I didn't count 21 window on that video. Where are all of them? On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW > 21 window > bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie > sound > file used in the video. Being I am a member of the Samba site > forums as well > I posted this link today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo- > v4iI&NR=1 From p.herder at cox.net Wed Jan 16 20:57:29 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:57:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49B77362D436412CAF1A186B0145D701@PaulVU> You missed the small windows above the main windows along the side. I believe there are 4 small windows on each side (8), two front (10), one back (11), two door windows(2+11=13) and four each side windows (8+13=21) Paul -----Original Message----- I didn't count 21 window on that video. Where are all of them? On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW > 21 window > bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie > sound > file used in the video. Being I am a member of the Samba site > forums as well > I posted this link today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo- > v4iI&NR=1 _______________________________________________ From stargazer1 at cox.net Wed Jan 16 21:57:58 2008 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:57:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Float Lid Question Message-ID: <478EE056.5010608@cox.net> Greetings O Learned Ones: My son and I just mounted some newly rebuilt carbs on his desmogged '70 midget. We turned on the key, and have gas coming out the "spare" hose connection on the rear carb. I don't remember us having anything on that connection previously so I'm both puzzled and concerned by this sudden production of liquid petrol. Did we get the carb lids swapped? The emission control diagram seems to indicate that is normally a vent of some sort that runs to the carbon cannister. Thanks, Dave Ambrose From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 16 22:13:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:13:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: Message-ID: <049301c858c7$bb7396f0$0401a8c0@midget> > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only > they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop > doesn't > have a turbocharger because it's a jet? W E S L A K E , Think about it a little bit more... A turbocharger is called that because it has a turbine inside there that is turned by the exhaust gas. A turboprop is called that because it has a propeller which is turned by, guess what? Yup, a turbine. It is a perfectly accurate term. David Lieb From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 16 22:20:00 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:20:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Float Lid Question In-Reply-To: <478EE056.5010608@cox.net> References: <478EE056.5010608@cox.net> Message-ID: <16674B21-570D-4DA5-9DC2-11ADEC735B49@comcast.net> Stuck float, dirty seat, bad needle?? Not closing allowing fuel out the overflow.. Lester .. but I'm not the guy.. On Jan 16, 2008, at 10:57 PM, David Ambrose wrote: > Greetings O Learned Ones: > > My son and I just mounted some newly rebuilt carbs on his desmogged > '70 > midget. We turned on the key, and have gas coming out the "spare" hose > connection on the rear carb. I don't remember us having anything on > that > connection previously so I'm both puzzled and concerned by this sudden > production of liquid petrol. Did we get the carb lids swapped? The > emission control diagram seems to indicate that is normally a vent of > some sort that runs to the carbon cannister. > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 22:28:24 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:28:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801162128j70937adegb1aa66a354e76b2c@mail.gmail.com> Don't forget the floorboards! From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 16 23:00:26 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:00:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Float Lid Question References: <478EE056.5010608@cox.net> Message-ID: <00d601c858ce$42b00bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Stuck float, dirty seat, bad needle?? Not closing allowing fuel out the overflow.. I'm not the right guy either! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ambrose" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Float Lid Question > Greetings O Learned Ones: > > My son and I just mounted some newly rebuilt carbs on his desmogged '70 > midget. We turned on the key, and have gas coming out the "spare" hose > connection on the rear carb. I don't remember us having anything on that > connection previously so I'm both puzzled and concerned by this sudden > production of liquid petrol. Did we get the carb lids swapped? The > emission control diagram seems to indicate that is normally a vent of > some sort that runs to the carbon cannister. > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 17 01:35:48 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:35:48 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <049301c858c7$bb7396f0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <001201c858e3$f748e830$0401a8c0@Laptop> Either that, or the term "Jet Prop" used loosely, means Jet Propelled, (as opposed to IC) and not Jet Propeller. What a difference a single letter makes! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: 17 January 2008 05:14 To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only > they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop > doesn't > have a turbocharger because it's a jet? W E S L A K E , Think about it a little bit more... A turbocharger is called that because it has a turbine inside there that is turned by the exhaust gas. A turboprop is called that because it has a propeller which is turned by, guess what? Yup, a turbine. It is a perfectly accurate term. David Lieb You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.4/1227 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 01:40 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 17 05:52:58 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:52:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <9060211.1200574378648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I used to read all of the Austin Healey Club magazines that use to not have much Sprite stuff but lots of Big Healey articles. It made me sick that the articles that they did include would be something incredibly stupid such as naming a Bugeye some retarded name and then writing as if the Bugeye was more than an inanimate object. The approach in my eyes did/does not give the Sprite, especially the Bugeye, a fair shake with respect to all of the racing and notariety that it has gained for Austin Healey. If any names were ever used with my Bugeyes, it would resemble Franks version and very colorful expletives ;^). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Frank Clarici >Sent: Jan 16, 2008 5:05 PM >To: Michael Conn >Cc: spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >Michael Conn wrote: >> do all AN5 owners talk to their cars? > >I sure do but I can't say those words on this list ;) >Some people have names for their cars, I call mine names all the time. >But with so many Sprites in my past, I just call them by year now. >My wife calls them by color, but the colors are now repeating. >3rd white sprite, 2nd blue Sprite, and now the second green Sprite. >Had a couple of red ones too. And I spoke to all of them. >You #^*$ SOB of a @^&*%$ foreign car, WTF is wrong THIS TIME? >Or did you mean talk nice to the car like Come on baby, please start you >%$#(*^ pos. > > > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 17 06:37:28 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:37:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <001201c858e3$f748e830$0401a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: Imagine the difference a married one could make!!! RD >From: "Guy Weller" > >What a difference a single letter makes! > >Guy From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Jan 17 08:42:52 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:42:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <9060211.1200574378648.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001601c8591f$9f3a3770$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Mike, I absolutely agree with your comments about the Austin Healey Club magazine. I'm pleased to be a member of the Club because I like to see my AN5 in the booklet list. This, in some way, promotes our "small Healeys". I just quickly go through the Club's magazine looking for articles on "small Healeys". (I can only remember finding one about the High School ladies who restored the AN5 which subsequently sold at auction for $24,000.00.) I sometimes find AN5's for sale, and like to read these advertisements. When I've quickly gone through the magazine found no articles and read any "for sale" advertisements, I put the magazine in the trash! My wife has a name for my AN5: "Limey". She tells me there are two reasons for this name: (i) its appalling green color and (ii) before becoming a US citizen I was a Brit, and Limey, of course, is WWII US slang for a person from England. I recently wrote some erudite e-mails to the List with my views on talking to spridgets, tetanus injections etc. Did they help you in any way? Michael From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 17 08:52:31 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:52:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware Message-ID: <095201c85920$f9032ea0$6401a8c0@Larry> Sorry to jump in with an off-topic question here (hard to imagine on this list), but I have a quick 'puter question. I have been using Spyware Doctor for my spyware/adware protection. A while back they had an update that slowed my computer to an absolute crawl. A check on the net found that this was a common complaint. It got so bad that I turned the program off. So, finally to my question, who has a good version of free spyware protection? I have been using AVG for free virus protection and wondered if there is an equivalent free spyware program that won't slow my machine down? TIA, Larry From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Jan 17 08:57:56 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:57:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003101c8584c$08318140$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <002b01c85876$8e6925e0$6401a8c0@personal> <002701c8587a$10ce0250$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> <000f01c8590c$ff8decb0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <001b01c85921$ba59f6b0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Jack, Then she breaks down "....just like a woman...." as Bob Dylan would say. I mentioned in an earlier e-mail that my AN5 insists "he" is of the male gender. I personally believe it's an "it", and will eventually pluck up the courage to tell it. It seems everything is of the feminine gender save for a country! "Fatherland". I've taken to calling everything "it". So, if my wife and I are in a restaurant, for example, I say: "It would like a coffee, please". Actually, what I've just written is not strictly true. In the romance languages (e.g. Italian), for example, parts of the human body (both male and female) have one or other gender. (Some of these are hilarious as those who know will tell you.) Michael From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 17 08:59:17 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:59:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <22093598.1200585557902.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Michael, I was referring to what was happening in the 1980s and the early 1990s with the Austin healey club magazine. I had a Big healey friend that had every magazine or newsletter that they put out and I was on night shift at the time so I would read from cover to cover every issue from every year from the beginning. I wouldn't waste my money investing in the club as very little is fitting to the best Austin Healey - the Bugeye. The Bugeye articles were, all but a few tech articles and restoration ones here and there, rather sickening. I can understand the "Limey" name as it refers to it being English and actually color also. I remember as a kid being at Summit Point Raceway for the SCCA races in 1985 falling in love with a lime green and white race Bugeye. I use to sneak into the paddock through the back woods and watch the owner (mechanic) work on it for hours. He was kind of puzzled by me watching him for so long from a little distance, he waved for me to come over and he let me help him time the engine better and change the spark plugs. That racer will never know how happy he made an 11 year old that day. It will down hill from there . . . Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Conn >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 10:42 AM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter >Cc: spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >Mike, > >I absolutely agree with your comments about the Austin Healey Club magazine. > >I'm pleased to be a member of the Club because I like to see my AN5 in the >booklet list. This, in some way, promotes our "small Healeys". > >I just quickly go through the Club's magazine looking for articles on "small >Healeys". (I can only remember finding one about the High School ladies >who restored the AN5 which subsequently sold at auction for $24,000.00.) I >sometimes find AN5's for sale, and like to read these advertisements. > >When I've quickly gone through the magazine found no articles and read any >"for sale" advertisements, I put the magazine in the trash! > >My wife has a name for my AN5: "Limey". She tells me there are two reasons >for this name: (i) its appalling green color and (ii) before becoming a US >citizen I was a Brit, and Limey, of course, is WWII US slang for a person >from England. > >I recently wrote some erudite e-mails to the List with my views on talking >to spridgets, tetanus injections etc. Did they help you in any way? > >Michael > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Jan 17 09:12:18 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <22093598.1200585557902.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002f01c85923$bbedcb30$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Mike, I enjoyed the Summit Point story. Thank you. Michael From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 17 09:51:20 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:51:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <22093598.1200585557902.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <016c01c85929$2ffa6790$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I was referring to what was happening in the 1980s and the early 1990s > with the Austin healey club magazine. I had a Big healey friend that had > every magazine or newsletter that they put out and I was on night shift at > the time so I would read from cover to cover every issue from every year > from the beginning. I wouldn't waste my money investing in the club as > very little is fitting to the best Austin Healey - the Bugeye. > The Bugeye articles were, all but a few tech articles and restoration ones > here and there, rather sickening. I agree. I am also less than thrilled at having my Midget parked in the MG section of the annual car show while the Sprites are parked by the Heavey Healeys, and we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. We really need a national Spridget club. It doesn't need to have a whole lot of physical existence, a virtual club with virtual meetings is fine. A "register" with benefits, so to speak. I guess that one has sort of come into existence with the "Sprite-Midget Club" that is organizing the 50th celebration in Missouri in June. Heck, it even has a calendar ;-) BTW, I got my copies now and I am quite happy with them. I must confess to a degree of trepidation regarding the Cafe' Press aspect of it, but it has worked out quite well. I do wish that they had the ability to allow us to submit a spreadsheet of custom dates... but I only got a couple that would actually pertain to a calendar. Anyhow, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to keep the Sprite-Midget Club alive. Not sure whether a newsletter is a viable option, since the various bulletin boards, forums, and email lists fulfill much of that function. Perhaps maintain a calendar of Spridget-related events and print an annual calendar of pictures. I am sure the rest of you can come up with additional functions... Could be fun. David Lieb From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 10:22:01 2008 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:22:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: (no subject) Message-ID: <574547.16983.qm@web36405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Roger Cotting ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: roger cotting To: Mike/Donna Carpenter ; Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) I agree with you about the Healey club magazine, but that was in the past. I wrote and had published and article this year about our first customer car the we restored. ( This list had a preview). There are more little Healey articles principally because there are many vocal Sprite owners that don't let the editor neglect Sprites. Roger Cotting ----- Original Message ---- From: Mike/Donna Carpenter To: Michael Conn Cc: spridgets Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:59:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Hi Michael, I was referring to what was happening in the 1980s and the early 1990s with the Austin healey club magazine. I had a Big healey friend that had every magazine or newsletter that they put out and I was on night shift at the time so I would read from cover to cover every issue from every year from the beginning. I wouldn't waste my money investing in the club as very little is fitting to the best Austin Healey - the Bugeye. The Bugeye articles were, all but a few tech articles and restoration ones here and there, rather sickening. I can understand the "Limey" name as it refers to it being English and actually color also. I remember as a kid being at Summit Point Raceway for the SCCA races in 1985 falling in love with a lime green and white race Bugeye. I use to sneak into the paddock through the back woods and watch the owner (mechanic) work on it for hours. He was kind of puzzled by me watching him for so long from a little distance, he waved for me to come over and he let me help him time the engine better and change the spark plugs. That racer will never know how happy he made an 11 year old that day. It will down hill from there . . . Mike C ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Jan 17 10:24:24 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:24:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <363611.73730.qm@web36402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c8592d$ce1e6d00$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Roger, Good to read your comments. I'll have to look more carefully. Save for the article about the High School ladies and their AN5 restoration, I honestly don't recall any other "small" Healey articles. As I say, I shall look more carefully in future. (Maybe, it was because I didn't expect to find anything, and didn't, if you know what I mean. Looking too hard!) I did get a nice calendar from the Club with AN5 pictures. I'm pleased about that. Michael From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 10:38:44 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:38:44 EST Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. Message-ID: A gas turbine is a gas turbine whether it drives a propellor a fan or just produces thrust. Jet engines aren't called turbofans or turbothrusts so why turboprops? A turbocharger is not a turbine it is a compressor driven by a turbine. Gee, ask a single question!!! W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 17/01/2008 08:35:51 GMT Standard Time, guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes: Either that, or the term "Jet Prop" used loosely, means Jet Propelled, (as opposed to IC) and not Jet Propeller. What a difference a single letter makes! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: 17 January 2008 05:14 To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only > they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop > doesn't > have a turbocharger because it's a jet? W E S L A K E , Think about it a little bit more... A turbocharger is called that because it has a turbine inside there that is turned by the exhaust gas. A turboprop is called that because it has a propeller which is turned by, guess what? Yup, a turbine. It is a perfectly accurate term. David Lieb From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 11:31:55 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:31:55 EST Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: If your Spridget hasn't drawn blood from you by now you must be paying someone else to work on it. What really hurts is when it gives you a scar to remember it by. In a message dated 16/01/2008 15:06:53 GMT Standard Time, tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: and draw blood, a From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 11:33:41 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:33:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Believe me, I have bled for these cars more than once... On Jan 17, 2008 12:31 PM, wrote: > If your Spridget hasn't drawn blood from you by now you must be paying > someone else to work on it. What really hurts is when it gives you a scar > to remember it by. > > > In a message dated 16/01/2008 15:06:53 GMT Standard Time, > tequila.brad at gmail.com writes: > > and draw blood, a > > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 17 11:33:44 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:33:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Cookie Jars... Message-ID: <019c01c85937$7dad6c90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Jay's goldmine is up to $123.50 already. Looks like some Japanese guy outbid the Brit. Anbody got another one they want rid of at a sensible price? I didn't think so. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 11:30:06 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:30:06 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Supercharger give away Message-ID: Only for a Shorrocks. In a message dated 16/01/2008 15:08:23 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > And only for residents of the US of A. :( Wanna rent an address? From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 10:47:55 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:47:55 EST Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa In a message dated 17/01/2008 16:51:53 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 17 10:54:08 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:54:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <018f01c85931$f5c028e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >>> we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. > Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa Good point. I guess some of us ARE the blacksheep of the family... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 17 12:04:38 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:04:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Reminds me of a scene in a Monty Python movie where one lad says to the other "your mother f's goats" and he replies "baaaa, you don't know what you're talking about". >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa > > >In a message dated 17/01/2008 16:51:53 GMT Standard Time, >dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > >we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Jan 17 11:07:55 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:07:55 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c85933$e2d58f70$0401a8c0@Laptop> Not sure Daniel if that is directed at me or not. To Me Jet Prop means Jet Propelled, nothing more. Doesn't say anything about Turbines or Turbochargers.Don't know what you are on about! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com [mailto:Weslake1330 at aol.com] Sent: 17 January 2008 17:39 To: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk; dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. A gas turbine is a gas turbine whether it drives a propellor a fan or just produces thrust. Jet engines aren't called turbofans or turbothrusts so why turboprops? A turbocharger is not a turbine it is a compressor driven by a turbine. Gee, ask a single question!!! W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 17/01/2008 08:35:51 GMT Standard Time, guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes: Either that, or the term "Jet Prop" used loosely, means Jet Propelled, (as opposed to IC) and not Jet Propeller. What a difference a single letter makes! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: 17 January 2008 05:14 To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only > they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop > doesn't > have a turbocharger because it's a jet? W E S L A K E , Think about it a little bit more... A turbocharger is called that because it has a turbine inside there that is turned by the exhaust gas. A turboprop is called that because it has a propeller which is turned by, guess what? Yup, a turbine. It is a perfectly accurate term. David Lieb No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.5/1228 - Release Date: 16/01/2008 09:01 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 17 12:21:23 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:21:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <31100200.1200597683447.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hey Valve-cover-for-extra-horsepower-tuner-boy, Did your Momma have any kids that actually lived ? Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 12:47 PM >To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa > > >In a message dated 17/01/2008 16:51:53 GMT Standard Time, >dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > >we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jan 17 12:24:18 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:24:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch sprite content. Message-ID: <000d01c8593e$8e220de0$6401a8c0@personal> I took Miss Agatha out and for the very first time drove it like I stole it. Wheeeee.......darn that was fun. I mean like I was 30 again. Good thing I don't have a 1275, a fella could get in big trouble. Anyway...... Reguarding clutch. All is well from start and into second at 5K even. Then I get from 2ed to 3rd and 3rd to 4th at 5K a clutch release but it grabs on release of the pedal at about 1 inch or so from the bottom. The release when shifting is not as clean as I would like either, however, if I then pump it one time all is fine. This is a 948, now 998 with gold smooth box and it has a White Post rebuilt MC, a Quinton-Hazel clutch set, and a new Lockheed slave cylinder. Hard line has been blown both ways with carb cleaner at over 70 lbs pressure. It is not getting any worse and may even be getting a bit better?????? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 12:28:33 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:28:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch sprite content. In-Reply-To: <000d01c8593e$8e220de0$6401a8c0@personal> References: <000d01c8593e$8e220de0$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: Isn't it fun when the girl you love, acts all young again?? I remember when I first put Peter C's shocks on the 68. Her front end was firm again, and handling was a JOY!!! On Jan 17, 2008 1:24 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > I took Miss Agatha out and for the very first time drove it like I stole > it. > Wheeeee.......darn that was fun. I mean like I was 30 again. Good thing I > don't have a 1275, a fella could get in big trouble. > > Anyway...... > > Reguarding clutch. > > All is well from start and into second at 5K even. Then I get from 2ed to > 3rd > and 3rd to 4th at 5K a clutch release but it grabs on release of the pedal > at > about 1 inch or so from the bottom. The release when shifting is not as > clean > as I would like either, however, if I then pump it one time all is fine. > > This is a 948, now 998 with gold smooth box and it has a White Post > rebuilt > MC, a Quinton-Hazel clutch set, and a new Lockheed slave cylinder. Hard > line > has been blown both ways with carb cleaner at over 70 lbs pressure. > > It is not getting any worse and may even be getting a bit better?????? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 12:35:50 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:35:50 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ladies Re: More on cheapo repros Message-ID: A long time ago I walked into a Weber carb & stuff shop. The counter lady asked me if she could help me to which I replied I'd like to speak to someone who knows about Weber carbs. Her indigant reply was that she knew about Weber carbs. And she did too. She could even pronounce David Vizard's name correctly which was more than I could do at that time. Regards W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 15/01/2008 04:05:44 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: I get some lady who has a hard time spelling MGB From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 17 12:51:51 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:51:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <31100200.1200597683447.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: But ... doesn't his valve cover 'allow' for better performance? It allows for a different rocker assembly, doesn't it? >From: Mike/Donna Carpenter > >Hey Valve-cover-for-extra-horsepower-tuner-boy, > >Did your Momma have any kids that actually lived ? > >Mike C > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > > > >Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa > > > > > >In a message dated 17/01/2008 16:51:53 GMT Standard Time, > >dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: > > > >we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 17 13:08:33 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:08:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <31478828.1200600513436.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That was just in jest in response to the 50 emails spelling Weslake a few weeks ago ;^)). MC -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette >Sent: Jan 17, 2008 2:51 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >But ... doesn't his valve cover 'allow' for better performance? It allows >for a different rocker assembly, doesn't it? > >>From: Mike/Donna Carpenter >> >>Hey Valve-cover-for-extra-horsepower-tuner-boy, >> >>Did your Momma have any kids that actually lived ? >> >>Mike C >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com >> > >> >Baaaaa Baaaaaa Baaaaaaa >> > >> > >> >In a message dated 17/01/2008 16:51:53 GMT Standard Time, >> >dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: >> > >> >we all get treated as the black sheep of the family. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 13:34:01 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:34:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <279695.71632.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well - I think there is a correction needed in your statement. I worked for a Company that made the fans or blades for air plane motors. They always referred to them fan # XXX depending on the pitch of the blades. The Company is in San Diego off Balboa - If i remember correctly it was called Turbo Mach. They were a division of Sundstrand Aviation. I supported Sundstrands Networks and facillities in Arizona, Caifornia, Colorado, Navada and Washington State. So i guess they do call them fans when being made. I think in the 4 years i worked for them i went to most of there locations in the US. Vigil Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: A gas turbine is a gas turbine whether it drives a propellor a fan or just produces thrust. Jet engines aren't called turbofans or turbothrusts so why turboprops? A turbocharger is not a turbine it is a compressor driven by a turbine. Gee, ask a single question!!! W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 17/01/2008 08:35:51 GMT Standard Time, guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk writes: Either that, or the term "Jet Prop" used loosely, means Jet Propelled, (as opposed to IC) and not Jet Propeller. What a difference a single letter makes! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: 17 January 2008 05:14 To: Weslake1330 at aol.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? Is it the same engine only > they finally thought up a more accurate name for it since the turboprop > doesn't > have a turbocharger because it's a jet? W E S L A K E , Think about it a little bit more... A turbocharger is called that because it has a turbine inside there that is turned by the exhaust gas. A turboprop is called that because it has a propeller which is turned by, guess what? Yup, a turbine. It is a perfectly accurate term. David Lieb You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 14:59:15 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:59:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com> I'm an OLD pilot and used to work a lot with international aviation. I will suggest that there is different terminology for the same thing depending upon which country you live in and which language you are translating from. "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... Cheers!! Jim On Jan 17, 2008 11:45 AM, wrote: > Eastern airways fleet has a mixed Jetstream & Saab fleet. All of the > aircraft in the flight brochure had propellors. The Jetstreams which are > older > aircraft are described as turbo props which is the recognised term for a > gas > turbine driving a prop. The Saab is described as a jet prop but looks to > be a > gas turbine driving a prop. So why the different name? > > I do know what a prop-fan is and a bypass and a fan but jet prop is a new > one. > > You'd think Cap'n Bob would have been all over this thread by now! > > W E S L A K E 1330 - an enquiring mind can be a lot of bother sometimes > > > In a message dated 17/01/2008 01:57:42 GMT Standard Time, > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > > When did turboprop aircraft become jet prop? > I've never heard jet prop. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 15:21:34 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:34 EST Subject: [Spridgets] propellors nothing LBC! Message-ID: _http://www.easternairways.com/content/view/54/95/_ (http://www.easternairways.com/content/view/54/95/) from the horse's mouth! From Weslake1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 17 15:25:10 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:25:10 EST Subject: [Spridgets] DM distributor update Message-ID: Hi List, Not much of an update BUT possibly interesting. The NOS Lucas pickup was a complete baseplate assembly and I'd assumed the pickup was integral to the base plate. However, it isn't as I can see having retrieved my pattern NEW pickup from my useful spares I carry in the car which is just the pickup and wire. Probably the GE whatever pickup will fit the lucas baseplate after all. I've no idea why Lucas sold the entire baseplate with the pickup - it meant they had to produce lots of different ones? I'll be testing and installing tomorrow night or Saturday. W E S L A K E 1330 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 15:47:39 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:47:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A few parts questions.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0801171447l631721dby78a509ffe00e8333@mail.gmail.com> All, Today I was hunting for some odds and ends in the local salvage yards and found a 1972 RWA midget. The tub is pretty rough but there were a few parts on it that might be useful to someone. The bonnet was in fair shape as was the boot lid but someone has cobbled what looks like an MGB luggage rack on it. Doors might be saved but are rusty inside. Engine is in the storage area and I think he said when they removed it it charted 160 lbs on each cylinder with 60-65lbs of oil pressure. I have dibs on the ribcase, rear axle and springs. It also has decent Rostyle wheels on it. Interior is pretty much a disaster as it has been sitting open to the weather since 1993 when they junked it (collission! left front). I have wires on my Midget so can't use the Rostyles. If anyone is interested, I'll put you in contact with the salvage yard. He has a current book and is online so probably no big bargains here...... I have dibs on the ribcase. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 17 16:09:00 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:09:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <001401c8592d$ce1e6d00$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <20080117230908.75CCB187652@autox.team.net> And just how many articles have you submitted? I was always treated very well by the "big" guys whenever I showed up at one of their events here on the left coast. Crash Roger, Good to read your comments. I'll have to look more carefully. Save for the article about the High School ladies and their AN5 restoration, I honestly don't recall any other "small" Healey articles. As I say, I shall look more carefully in future. (Maybe, it was because I didn't expect to find anything, and didn't, if you know what I mean. Looking too hard!) I did get a nice calendar from the Club with AN5 pictures. I'm pleased about that. Michael From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 17 16:13:48 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:13:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A few parts questions.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801171447l631721dby78a509ffe00e8333@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080117231359.5D99C187652@autox.team.net> Funny you want the only part that should be junked even if it is new. Go for the shocks and sway bar, they are always worth something. Crash All, Today I was hunting for some odds and ends in the local salvage yards and found a 1972 RWA midget. I have dibs on the ribcase. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 16:39:29 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:39:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A few parts questions.... In-Reply-To: <478fe135.25e7480a.7b5b.4135SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <43840a7e0801171447l631721dby78a509ffe00e8333@mail.gmail.com> <478fe135.25e7480a.7b5b.4135SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801171539y720302bak57329c776a0d3f49@mail.gmail.com> Hadn't thought about that! My ribcase is on its way to that great junkyard in the sky. I drained it last month when I yanked the lump and the oil (less than a year old) was silver gray in color with a big gob of swaff on the magnetic drain plug. It still shifts, but I suspect not for too much longer. I will grab the shocks and sway bar! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On Jan 17, 2008 5:13 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Funny you want the only part that should be junked even if it is new. Go > for the shocks and sway bar, they are always worth something. > Crash From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 17 16:54:42 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:54:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Canadian: Get me the 7/16ths wrench from the trunk. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... Cheers!! Jim From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 17:07:36 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:07:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed question Message-ID: <200834.87258.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After all the talk about Datsun 5 speeds. I started looking at them a little closer. Can some one tell me what the FL, FA, FX means. Does any one know which are dogleg and which are not? Vigil --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jan 17 17:35:41 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:35:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b801c8596a$0f146760$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Southern: Hey girl, woudya grab them pliars in the trunk? Hand me another Bud while you are there......babe! Canadian: Get me the 7/16ths wrench from the trunk. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jan 17 18:21:45 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: References: , <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com> Brit-Speak... "Nip round the left wing and get the 7/16 spanner from the trunk" On 17 Jan 2008 at 18:54, Robert Duquette wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Johnson >> >> >> "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the >> boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, >> Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 17 18:30:28 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:30:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) Message-ID: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Moving right along with my 67. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg And it looked like this 2 months ago. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jan 17 18:38:30 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:38:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Trunk???????????????????????? I say old chap do you mean "boot"? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:22 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. Brit-Speak... "Nip round the left wing and get the 7/16 spanner from the trunk" From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 17 18:38:58 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:38:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04c401c85972$e5b690b0$0401a8c0@midget> > Moving right along with my 67. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg > And it looked like this 2 months ago. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg And what happened to 67d-67o? From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jan 17 18:53:49 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:53:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: References: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com>, Message-ID: <478F962D.15650.220DF3E@dmg.bossig.com> Naah!!!! The trunk is on the back of the coach (vehicle)... And the boot is on the drivers foot ;-)) Shoot!! ... forgot to specify Whitworth or SAE... But, just to be on the safe side "bring me an 11 mm and a 12 mm... one of 'em will fit!!" On 17 Jan 2008 at 17:38, Hal Faulkner wrote: >> Trunk???????????????????????? >> I say old chap do you mean "boot"? - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 17 19:00:22 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:00:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys and less LBC content. References: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com>, <478F962D.15650.220DF3E@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <06e301c85975$e2f19cf0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Dave: <> STILL wrong!!!! That is FRANK SPEAK!!!! From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 17 19:01:59 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:01:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <06e301c85975$e2f19cf0$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com>, <478F962D.15650.220DF3E@dmg.bossig.com> <06e301c85975$e2f19cf0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <47900897.6080100@comcast.net> shop at justbrits.com wrote: > Dave: > > < 'em will fit!!">> > > STILL wrong!!!! That is FRANK SPEAK!!!! 12mm wrenches (spanners) DO fit on a Sprite. They are perfect for the oil gauge pipe fitting to the block. The one where the 7/16 is just a tad too small. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Thu Jan 17 19:07:47 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:07:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone we know???? Message-ID: <478F9973.24558.22DA6CA@dmg.bossig.com> http://tinyurl.com/2rutn4 - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 17 19:27:51 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:27:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone we know???? References: <478F9973.24558.22DA6CA@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <079601c85979$b9c96e80$6401a8c0@actualshop> Cap'n Bob for SURE, Dave!!! Thanks!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 17 20:04:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:04:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys and less LBC content. References: <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com>, <478F962D.15650.220DF3E@dmg.bossig.com> <06e301c85975$e2f19cf0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <04d901c8597e$e068e020$0401a8c0@midget> Well, actually an 11mm will fit a 7/16 SAE very well. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK guys and less LBC content. > Dave: > > < of > 'em will fit!!">> > > STILL wrong!!!! That is FRANK SPEAK!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 20:26:40 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed question In-Reply-To: <200834.87258.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <200834.87258.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801171926r61fc3782y3b7dd7298763b37@mail.gmail.com> FL, FA, and FX are stamped on the top of the bellhousings. I think they denote the proper tranny for the conversion. I dunno what you mean by dogleg. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Jan 17 20:52:12 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:52:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801171926r61fc3782y3b7dd7298763b37@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <92441.98933.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I do not know what the F #s mean. I think it is related to the set up of the trans. I did not ask - but now after thinking about it i wondered about the difference is in the set up. A dogleg is when 1st is across from rev. Standard would be rev across from 5th. I was told by a Datsun guy that they did make different ratio's and even racing ratio's. Vigil derf wrote: FL, FA, and FX are stamped on the top of the bellhousings. I think they denote the proper tranny for the conversion. I dunno what you mean by dogleg. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Jan 17 21:28:17 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:28:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: , <43840a7e0801171359k5c01cf9dqaf79b99a191697b7@mail.gmail.com>, <478F8EA9.14967.20383BD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <004501c8598a$8d2e9ba0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Dave, That's wrong. The Brits say "boot". Michael From dwramsey at att.net Fri Jan 18 00:06:48 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:06:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed question In-Reply-To: <200834.87258.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20080118070659.0CB9218765F@autox.team.net> I think it has to do more with the year of manufacture. Of all the ones I pulled the FA was on 1980, FL on 1981, FX on 1982's. The "dogleg" shift pattern was on the 1979's where the drain plug is on the back instead of the bottom. The FA transmissions only had one sensor and the FL, FX had two, I think the later one was an economy light as both are on the 5th gear/reverse shifter shaft. Also of note I seem to recall FW and ES marked units being the same as the others. The ES ones were converted from the clutch arm being on the other side, but I don't know what car model they originally came from as all I ever found where on 210's. The good old days, on one 1/2 price weekend I got 15 at the pick-n-pull's in Calif and Nv, I quit pulling them when I only got two from the same trip a couple of years later. Crash After all the talk about Datsun 5 speeds. I started looking at them a little closer. Can some one tell me what the FL, FA, FX means. Does any one know which are dogleg and which are not? Vigil From dwramsey at att.net Fri Jan 18 00:14:08 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:14:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <00b801c8596a$0f146760$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <20080118071418.4110618765F@autox.team.net> Nevadan: Mosey on over and get me the small wrench and don't step in the cow s**t! Southern: Hey girl, woudya grab them pliars in the trunk? Hand me another Bud while you are there......babe! Canadian: Get me the 7/16ths wrench from the trunk. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... _______________________________________________ From stargazer1 at cox.net Fri Jan 18 00:19:15 2008 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:19:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HS2 Float Lid Question In-Reply-To: <00d601c858ce$42b00bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <478EE056.5010608@cox.net> <00d601c858ce$42b00bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <479052F3.1080103@cox.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >Stuck float, dirty seat, bad needle?? Not closing allowing fuel out >the overflow.. > >I'm not the right guy either! > > Actually, you and Lester are Da Guyz. It was a bad needle valve. Thanks, we're one step closer to automotive nirvanna. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 05:48:15 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:48:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank Clarici wrote: "Moving right along with my 67." Frank, I'm sure you realize that you awe us with your ability to build cars from virtually nothing in amazingly compact time periods. And I'm sure many of us are encouraged and inspired because of it. I, on the other hand, tend to get frustrated with myself and wonder why I have had my car in the air for a month just trying to rework the rear half of the brake system. My work schedule is a big part of it, but then I think about your work schedule and realize that's no excuse. So which is it, a deal with you know who or some sort of time gadget that allows you to putter around and restore Spridgets while the rest of us are in suspended animation? Keep up the good work anyway, maybe I'll stumble across a similar time-gadget some day too. David --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 06:37:22 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:37:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 7/16 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had thought that there was a elephant involved ... ? I gave what I thought to be the Cdn version yesterday, but then, after some thought I realized that my own personal version would go more like: "For cripes aches ... where did I put that fricken 7/16s ... !!!" >From: "Hal Faulkner" > >Trunk???????????????????????? >I say old chap do you mean "boot"? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave G. > >Brit-Speak... >"Nip round the left wing and get the 7/16 spanner from the trunk" From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 06:39:19 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:39:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <6did5s$mdlvi9@toip17.srvr.bell.ca> Message-ID: Perhaps. But, it is written "eh?". :) >From: "David Ramsey" >A? > Crash > >Canadian: >Get me the 7/16ths wrench from the trunk. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson > > >"Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, >please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, >Chinese......etc... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 08:09:13 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:09:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I asked Frank his secret, and he shared the following with me... 1) I could give two shits about American Idol, or any of that other crap on TV. 2) I resolve to complete one section/project an evening. There, the secret has been revealed. I will now enter into the witness protection program, for the health and safety of my kneecaps. On Jan 18, 2008 6:48 AM, David Booker wrote: > Frank Clarici wrote: > "Moving right along with my 67." > Frank, > I'm sure you realize that you awe us with your ability to build cars from > virtually nothing in amazingly compact time periods. And I'm sure many of > us are encouraged and inspired because of it. I, on the other hand, tend to > get frustrated with myself and wonder why I have had my car in the air for a > month just trying to rework the rear half of the brake system. My work > schedule is a big part of it, but then I think about your work schedule and > realize that's no excuse. > > So which is it, a deal with you know who or some sort of time gadget that > allows you to putter around and restore Spridgets while the rest of us are > in suspended animation? > > Keep up the good work anyway, maybe I'll stumble across a similar > time-gadget some day too. > > David > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 08:21:23 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:21:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: '65 progress For comparison's sake: 1999 http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/65Sprite.htm 2000: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/fleet_top_view.jpg 2005: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/before.jpg 2006: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/AfterReorg1.jpg http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/AfterReorg2.jpg My whopping plans for non winter 2008 are to, at a minimum, make space in the garage to have space to work on the Sprite. >From: Frank Clarici > >Moving right along with my 67. > >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg > >And it looked like this 2 months ago. > >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 09:34:58 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:34:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do you mean that I would actually have to 'do something'?? Preposterous! >From: "Brad Fornal" > >I asked Frank his secret, and he shared the following with me... >1) I could give two shits about American Idol, or any of that other crap on >TV. >2) I resolve to complete one section/project an evening. > >There, the secret has been revealed. I will now enter into the witness >protection program, for the health and safety of my kneecaps. > >On Jan 18, 2008 6:48 AM, David Booker wrote: > > > Frank Clarici wrote: > > "Moving right along with my 67." > > Frank, > > I'm sure you realize that you awe us with your ability to build cars >from > > virtually nothing in amazingly compact time periods. And I'm sure many >of > > us are encouraged and inspired because of it. I, on the other hand, >tend to > > get frustrated with myself and wonder why I have had my car in the air >for a > > month just trying to rework the rear half of the brake system. My work > > schedule is a big part of it, but then I think about your work schedule >and > > realize that's no excuse. > > > > So which is it, a deal with you know who or some sort of time gadget >that > > allows you to putter around and restore Spridgets while the rest of us >are > > in suspended animation? > > > > Keep up the good work anyway, maybe I'll stumble across a similar > > time-gadget some day too. > > > > David From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 18 09:34:38 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:34:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware References: <095201c85920$f9032ea0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <008801c859f0$059b5c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Thanks to the many who wrote with suggestions for spyware. I had no idea there were so many different programs. I bet Norton et. al. hate this. ;-)) Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware Sorry to jump in with an off-topic question here (hard to imagine on this list), but I have a quick 'puter question. I have been using Spyware Doctor for my spyware/adware protection. A while back they had an update that slowed my computer to an absolute crawl. A check on the net found that this was a common complaint. It got so bad that I turned the program off. So, finally to my question, who has a good version of free spyware protection? I have been using AVG for free virus protection and wondered if there is an equivalent free spyware program that won't slow my machine down? TIA, Larry You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lists at woozy.com Fri Jan 18 09:52:06 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:52:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4790D936.9020901@woozy.com> Brad Fornal wrote: > I asked Frank his secret, and he shared the following with me... > 1) I could give two shits about American Idol, or any of that other crap on > TV. > Got to agree there. We got rid of our satellite dish a couple years back and haven't missed it for one minute, plus that $50/month comes in handy for buying parts. > 2) I resolve to complete one section/project an evening. > I envy you guys with garages, especially one as nice as Frank's ;-) Maybe someday when the kids are grown...... Robert From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jan 18 09:46:58 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:46:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net>, <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <47906782.21258.114AE1@dmg.bossig.com> C'mon now.... we all know the reason... It's the journey that counts and not the destination... - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 09:54:58 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:54:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <4790D936.9020901@woozy.com> References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> <647990.10688.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4790D936.9020901@woozy.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801180854j2886fdffr8dba8e0d9c7be92a@mail.gmail.com> Okay... I'll take my chances and spill the beans. "Frank" is actually quintuplets. That's right. There are 5 of him. All are named "Frank". I know this because one night when I was drunk and talking with him, the other 4 showed up!! "I'm Frank", he said. "And this is my other brother 'Frank', and my other brother 'Frank', and my other brother 'Frank', and my other brother 'Frank'". Not to worry though because none of them can do anything unless Diane approves it. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jan 18 09:56:03 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:56:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <004501c8598a$8d2e9ba0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> References: , <004501c8598a$8d2e9ba0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <479069A3.11183.1999C5@dmg.bossig.com> 30 yrs in UK, 10 yrs in Africa, 30 yrs in the USA ... Senility is catching up with me... dammit !!... My mind must have been on the Wench... Ooops I meant Wrench!! Oh, what a wretch I am... On 17 Jan 2008 at 23:28, Michael Conn wrote: >> That's wrong. The Brits say "boot". - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 18 10:27:04 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:27:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Joy Message-ID: In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:22:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I remember when I first put Peter C's shocks on the 68. Her front end was firm again, and handling was a JOY!!! Hey, I remember Joy from high school, and her sister Eureka....so when did Peter C start using silicone fluid in his shocks.... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jan 18 10:30:21 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:30:21 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... Message-ID: and bring me a 7/16 spanner, open ended, or ring, either will be ok In a message dated 18/01/2008 01:38:38 GMT Standard Time, hal at katemuir.com writes: I say old chap do you mean "boot"? From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 18 10:35:20 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:35:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118113400.03594b50@nosimport.com> At 11:30 AM 1/18/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >and bring me a 7/16 spanner, open ended, or ring, either will be ok ...and here I thought he'd be asking for shrubbery. Peter (MY valve cover says Austin) C. From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 18 10:38:43 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:38:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Lanuage Message-ID: In a message dated 1/17/2008 6:22:52 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Southern: Hey girl, woudya grab them pliars in the trunk? Hand me another Bud while you are there......babe! Canadian: Get me the 7/16ths wrench from the trunk. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... "ve haf ways of making you get the wrench" German "Please Mr. German, make them get the wrench, or I'll cut my ear off" Dutch "Yo quiero el pinchy pliars Jose y un cervesa por favor" Spanish "Ah sooo...please to hand me the wrench we copied from the British" Japanese "&%$$#$%^ give me another 7/16th, the last one doesn't fit and the first three broke" Chinese Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jan 18 10:40:06 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:40:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <479073F6.12443.41EFF1@dmg.bossig.com> Or a box spanner, Or a Monkey wrench. Or a King Dick (Brit-Speak -- still got one somewhere...) Or a Pipe Wrench Perhaps even a pair of Vise-Grips... The best thing about standards is that there are so many of 'em On 18 Jan 2008 at 12:30, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >> and bring me a 7/16 spanner, open ended, or ring, either will be ok - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 11:07:46 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:07:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118113400.03594b50@nosimport.com> Message-ID: I think my valve cover says tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic ... Ring, eh? Sounds dangerous. I think we refer to ours as 'box end'. >From: Peter C > >At 11:30 AM 1/18/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > > >and bring me a 7/16 spanner, open ended, or ring, either will be ok > >...and here I thought he'd be asking for shrubbery. > > >Peter (MY valve cover says Austin) C. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 12:42:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:42:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 145 billion Message-ID: 145 billion in tax cuts in the US of A?? I foresee spridget upgrades in the near future. :) Remember to buy made in North America products ... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 12:43:04 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:43:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 145 billion Message-ID: 145 billion in tax cuts in the US of A?? I foresee spridget upgrades in the near future. :) Remember to buy made in North America products ... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 12:31:07 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:31:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A series head or anchor?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2539E376-4038-4BF2-9F4E-3EF5ED3FEA44@comcast.net> Well crap.. whomever said look for crack between intake and exhaust valves there is one.. worth fixin' or just another piece of junk iron? Lester From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 18 12:55:10 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:55:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 7/16 References: Message-ID: <0ef801c85a0c$08bb2910$6401a8c0@actualshop> <<"For cripes aches ... where did I put that fricken 7/16s ... !!!">> That's very close to FRANK SPEAK!! Just TOO "polite", RD!! From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jan 18 14:11:38 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:11:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? Message-ID: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the "reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any experience with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of unknown offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might encounter (I have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). Thanks. Bud Osbourne From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 18 13:07:07 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:07:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 7/16 In-Reply-To: <0ef801c85a0c$08bb2910$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: Canadian, eh! I try to set a good example for the kids. ;) >From: > ><<"For cripes aches ... where did I put that fricken 7/16s ... !!!">> > >That's very close to FRANK SPEAK!! Just TOO "polite", RD!! From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Fri Jan 18 13:35:58 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... References: Message-ID: <000601c85a11$bda8cf80$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Robert, It's important to know the tempo and note before passing judgement on such matters. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... >I think my valve cover says > tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic > ... > > Ring, eh? Sounds dangerous. I think we refer to ours as 'box end'. > > >>From: Peter C >> >>At 11:30 AM 1/18/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >> >> >and bring me a 7/16 spanner, open ended, or ring, either will be ok >> >>...and here I thought he'd be asking for shrubbery. >> >> >>Peter (MY valve cover says Austin) C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jan 18 14:22:50 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:22:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Pittsburghese: "Go in the haus n' gimme uh Arn, then get a 7/16" box ind aht the trunk....an watch auht fer the slippy stuff on the steps". Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson "Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the boot, please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese......etc... Cheers!! Jim _______________________________________________ From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Jan 18 14:35:39 2008 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:35:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <002501c85a1a$1326f970$372c670a@edgewireless.com> In the Pacific Northwest: Mumble explicatives to myself, pull out my Leatherman or Gerber multi-tool, take a sip of my Starbucks, drive away in the rain... From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 14:41:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:41:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LB... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118113400.03594b50@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118113400.03594b50@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <47911D02.4040105@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Peter (MY valve cover says Austin) C. Mine says Austin too but the other side has the W E S L A K E Patents on the sticker so I will go fast too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 18 14:45:13 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:45:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> Westconsin.... Ya, get me a f$#^in' beer and sumpin between 3/8 & 1/2, woodja once? Hey, howboutdemPackers! At 03:22 PM 1/18/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >Pittsburghese: "Go in the haus n' gimme uh Arn, then get a 7/16" box ind >aht the trunk....an watch auht fer the slippy stuff on the steps". >Bud Osbourne > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson > > >"Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the >boot, >please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, >Japanese, >Chinese......etc... > >Cheers!! >Jim From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 18 14:51:58 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:51:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <311b8a84282a7ac4ca2e38a.20080118135158.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Bud, The Mini-lite repros (Minators) that Moss sells are an O.K. wheel. The Panasports are a much more high quality and you pay for it. You might consider Superlites from Australia. You might contact Barry Knickerbocker of Pack Racing Products. http://tinyurl.com/3y22et They are a little more than I paid a few years ago, but they come with the correct lug nuts for your Midget or Sprite. The Minators seat int he recess for the lug nut is just a machined surface of the same material as the wheel. They have been known to crack if over tightened. The Superlites have a steel insert in th e recess for the lug nut. It prevents galling and cracking. The wheel justs look better than the Moss repros. I can send you a close up picture of the Super lites I have on my car. Compare it to a Minator. I have a set on my Bugeye with 170/70r15s and I do not have "rubbing" issues. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Bud Osbourne > Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest > of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I > want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 > difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the > "reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any experience > with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of unknown > offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might encounter (I > have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). > Thanks. > Bud Osbourne > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 15:08:32 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:08:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> Message-ID: So who is gonna be the shirtless guy, painted in green and gold, this weekend? Is he a list member? On Jan 18, 2008 3:45 PM, Peter C wrote: > Westconsin.... > Ya, get me a f$#^in' beer and sumpin between 3/8 & 1/2, woodja > once? > Hey, howboutdemPackers! > > > At 03:22 PM 1/18/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: > > >Pittsburghese: "Go in the haus n' gimme uh Arn, then get a 7/16" box ind > >aht the trunk....an watch auht fer the slippy stuff on the steps". > >Bud Osbourne > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jim Johnson > > > > > >"Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the > >boot, > >please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, > >Japanese, > >Chinese......etc... > > > >Cheers!! > >Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Jan 18 15:22:14 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:22:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? Message-ID: A friend of mine wants to build a GRM 2008 Challenge car out of an Isetta with a motorcycle engine. Found one on Youtube...but then found this! Maybe Bugeyes and Minis are too BIG!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4HdsDZX6c&feature=related If Carroll Shelby had any integrity he'd have built this as the new cobra instead of that stupid mustang they're doing. I bet you could plate this thing in Michigan. JohnD From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jan 18 15:52:04 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:52:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080118225208.UFYW14424.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> I couldn't get a ticket. Considering the total cost for a pair, transportation and beverages, I can buy a flat screen and Leinenkugels. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:09 PM To: Peter C Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. So who is gonna be the shirtless guy, painted in green and gold, this weekend? Is he a list member? On Jan 18, 2008 3:45 PM, Peter C wrote: > Westconsin.... > Ya, get me a f$#^in' beer and sumpin between 3/8 & 1/2, woodja > once? > Hey, howboutdemPackers! > > > At 03:22 PM 1/18/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: > > >Pittsburghese: "Go in the haus n' gimme uh Arn, then get a 7/16" box ind > >aht the trunk....an watch auht fer the slippy stuff on the steps". > >Bud Osbourne > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jim Johnson > > > > > >"Walk about the near-side wing and retrieve the 7/16 spanner in the > >boot, > >please". How do you say that in American, German, Dutch, Spanish, > >Japanese, > >Chinese......etc... > > > >Cheers!! > >Jim From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 18 16:51:04 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:51:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware References: <095201c85920$f9032ea0$6401a8c0@Larry> <008801c859f0$059b5c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <015101c85a2c$fd616ae0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: "Larry Daniels" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware Larry: How about the executive summary of what you found out/decided? JohnD ==================================== Well, here are the answers that I received that weren't duplicates: Yes, Larry. Go to www.spybot.info ---------------------- Google Lavasoft and download their free product. ---------------------- i use AVAST anti-virus.. also free, but slightly higher rated than AVG. . for a firewall, i use filseclab firewall. again free...and has anti-trojan protection built in. spyware protection.. semi-regular scans with lava-soft ad-aware, spybot search and destroy, and spyware blaster. .. haven't had a problem since i've been using this combination... a couple of years.. --------------------- The spybot answer came first from a computer pro on the list, so I tried that. I downloaded it and ran it twice and both times my computer completely shut down before the scan was finished. Uh, oh. This doesn't look good. I already use AVG's free anti-virus and found that they have a spyware program, too. I tried it and was successful. I then went back and tried the spybot again and this time got a complete scan in with no problems. In fact, it found one tracker that the AVG didn't catch. Several people suggested the AVAST program as being better than AVG. I will probably try that, too, but haven't, yet. One person suggested shutting down the AVG Control Center and manually checking for updates to speed the machine up a bit. I did, but I'm not sure, yet, if it helped or not. My problem is that I don't know (or care) much about this stuff. For me, computers are an evil necessity for my work. I want the darn thing to turn on every day and just keep on humming along like a Honda or Toyota. No soul, just do the damn job and then leave me alone. Now, for you 'puter pros, are there issues with compatibility when running multiple spyware programs? Is it necessary? Is it wise? Would I be right in assuming that the more programs one has scanning, the longer it takes to do anything? The only thing I know for sure is that the Spyware Doctor program that I paid for slowed my computer down to the point that I wanted to throw it through the window. It is too damn cold to be busting out windows in WI in January. Larry Daniels (Hey, howboutdemPackers!) From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Jan 18 17:22:19 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:22:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? Message-ID: What a riot! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 18 17:23:09 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:23:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <016001c85a31$78924b90$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Peter C" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. So who is gonna be the shirtless guy, painted in green and gold, this weekend? Is he a list member? ========================= Not me. The forecast for Sunday is for a low of minus 10 degrees with a wind chill of minus 25 to minus 40. Quite nippy. The high for the day will be in the low single digits. Welcome, New York Giants, to the frozen tundra. LAD From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jan 18 17:45:29 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:45:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware In-Reply-To: <008801c859f0$059b5c30$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <095201c85920$f9032ea0$6401a8c0@Larry> <008801c859f0$059b5c30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <435203034.20080118164529@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, STAY AWAY from NORTON... it is as intrusive as actually gettting a virus!!!! you can't rid yourself of all the crap norton installs without asking or permission!!!! THEN, Norton CHARGES your credit card automatically .. every year.. .. ... .. SCREW NORTON!!! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite I'm not tense, just terribly, terribly alert. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 18 18:15:07 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:15:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? In-Reply-To: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <740469.35342.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > "reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody > have any experience > with those "repros" from Moss? Yes. They look nice but are extremely heavy and I had some minor rubbing issues on a Bugeye solved with 1/8" spacers. I don't really like them. I had 2 sets - I traded one set for a glass bonnet that I later sold for cheap to Larry Daniels who did godknowswhat with it. The other set - I just traded it for a set of Panasports that are painted ugly. My new gen-you-wine Hoosier rain tires will go on the Panasports. Ugly paint doesn't bother me. Have bead blaster, will travel. Now, my Revolutions don't really look right on a stock early Spridget, but them's some wheels!!! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 18 18:55:07 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? In-Reply-To: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <1F211C54-A617-40E6-948F-5685FB38E795@phillymgclub.com> I would never put something as narrow as a 155 on a 5" wheel. They are made for a 4" wheel. If you want to stay with 155's (why?? I have no idea!!) then go with no more than a 4.5" wheel, and that is a bit wide. Larry On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest > of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I > want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 > difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the > "reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any > experience > with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of > unknown > offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might > encounter (I > have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). > Thanks. > Bud Osbourne > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 18 19:07:32 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:07:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? References: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <1F211C54-A617-40E6-948F-5685FB38E795@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <053001c85a40$0daa98f0$0401a8c0@midget> >I would never put something as narrow as a 155 on a 5" wheel. They are > made for a 4" wheel. If you want to stay with 155's (why?? I have no > idea!!) then go with no more than a 4.5" wheel, and that is a bit wide. Larry, I am not sure quite where you are coming up with this. My 1972 Midget came stock with 145 tires on 4.5" rims. Tire Rack recommends a 4 to 5 inch rim width for 155 tires. David Lieb From biffjones at verizon.net Fri Jan 18 19:15:30 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:15:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? References: <001e01c85a16$b8287a60$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><1F211C54-A617-40E6-948F-5685FB38E795@phillymgclub.com> <053001c85a40$0daa98f0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <019901c85a41$2aa6aec0$2f01a8c0@dell1> I have been running 155's on my 5" rims for 3 years without any problems. Biff "Larry Macy"wrote > >I would never put something as narrow as a 155 on a 5" wheel. They are >> made for a 4" wheel. If you want to stay with 155's (why?? I have no >> idea!!) then go with no more than a 4.5" wheel, and that is a bit wide. From dmeadow at juno.com Fri Jan 18 20:29:12 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:29:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? Message-ID: <20080118.212913.416.0.dmeadow@juno.com> I have two sets of these that I use to swap around tires on my racecar. They are heavier than Panasports and the (real) magnesium Minilites and Revolutions that I use for races, so I use them mostly for practice sessions. The weight won't mean squat on a street car and they look good. They are quite sturdy. I know lots of folks that race with them and I've never known anyone to bend one. Check around, you might be able to get a better price than Moss. I might even be able to source a used set if you're interested. Most people are putting 175's on them without rubbing. 185's will rub a bit regardless of what wheel you use. David On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:51:58 -0800 (PST) rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: > Bud, > The Mini-lite repros (Minators) that Moss sells are an O.K. > wheel. > The Panasports are a much more high quality and you pay for it. > You > might consider Superlites from Australia. You might contact Barry > Knickerbocker of Pack Racing Products. http://tinyurl.com/3y22et > They are a little more than I paid a few years ago, but they come > with the > correct lug nuts for your Midget or Sprite. The Minators seat int > he > recess for the lug nut is just a machined surface of the same > material as > the wheel. They have been known to crack if over tightened. The > Superlites have a steel insert in th e recess for the lug nut. It > prevents galling and cracking. The wheel justs look better than the > Moss > repros. I can send you a close up picture of the Super lites I have > on my > car. Compare it to a Minator. I have a set on my Bugeye with > 170/70r15s > and I do not have "rubbing" issues. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > Bud Osbourne > > Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the > rest > > of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of > wheels I > > want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a > $90 > > difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the > > "reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any > experience > > with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of > unknown > > offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might > encounter (I > > have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). > > Thanks. > > Bud Osbourne > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > __________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 18 20:37:01 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:37:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Message-ID: <9d4a1a73a1892a94a.20080118193701.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> A Datsun 5 speed just went for $700+ on Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/237l6c Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 18 09:02:10 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:02:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080118100210.863v0o9rwg8o08gs@webmail.opentransfer.com> Looking good there, old man. Right buggerly pretty, I say. Larry Quoting Frank Clarici : > Moving right along with my 67. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg > > And it looked like this 2 months ago. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 18 20:49:26 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:49:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Original Sprite Model Kits Message-ID: <22332211.1200714566533.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Boys and Girls, I just listed two very rare Sprite kits on ebay. A Monogram kit to build a Bugeye 120212612601 And a Lindberg kit to build a Sprite Mk. II 120212611868 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 18 21:22:16 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:22:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> <016001c85a31$78924b90$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <02b901c85a52$e01638f0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> And they are gonna WIN, Larry!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 18 21:27:36 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:27:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay References: <9d4a1a73a1892a94a.20080118193701.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <02d301c85a53$9ec8e310$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> And the lazy A** didn't even clean it up sp winner get to pay freight on DIRT & GREASE!!! From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Jan 18 21:38:23 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:38:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <47917EBF.4010106@wi.net> Peter C wrote: > Westconsin.... > Ya, get me a f$#^in' beer and sumpin between 3/8 & 1/2, woodja once? > Hey, howboutdemPackers! > > Wow!! Now you're talking my language! This was the first translation I understood! GO PACKERS!! BTW, I got the master cylinder for Mary's MkI Midget back from White Post and it's ready to go. Mom's getting settled in after her hip fracture so maybe sometime later next week we can put parts back on the car! Peter, did you send WST new wheel cylinders? Don't freeze your brat at the game! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Jan 18 22:00:26 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:00:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <25108684.1200718826565.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Minators are nothing more than round boat anchors. You'd be smart to pay the extra for Panasports or buy my 4.5 width American Racing Equipment magnesium silverstones. They actually fit the square wheel arch without any modifying. Mike Carpenter Fairmont, West Virginia -----Original Message----- >From: Bud Osbourne >Sent: Jan 18, 2008 4:11 PM >To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" >Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? > >Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest >of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I >want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 >difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the >"reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any experience >with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of unknown >offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might encounter (I >have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). >Thanks. >Bud Osbourne >_______________________________________________ > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Fri Jan 18 09:03:13 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:03:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080118100313.tyos0jpvs400gk8w@webmail.opentransfer.com> Looking good there, old boy. Right buggerly pretty, I say. Larry Quoting Frank Clarici : > Moving right along with my 67. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg > > And it looked like this 2 months ago. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 19 02:05:02 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:05:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <9d4a1a73a1892a94a.20080118193701.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <20080119090521.BAB6C187658@autox.team.net> Thanks Mike I guess I should ask more than the $300 each I was going to ask for the few I have left. Crash A Datsun 5 speed just went for $700+ on Ebay. http://tinyurl.com/237l6c Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 19 02:22:13 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:22:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? In-Reply-To: <1F211C54-A617-40E6-948F-5685FB38E795@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <20080119092232.7D2BA187658@autox.team.net> Just a couple of reasons I can think of: They fit They are the right size They never rub even when you pretend to be Mr. Racer They can be bought in any tire store They cost less than 1/2 the fake racer cool tires that are special order (have you ever tried to buy a 160XRZ20X13 in Boise, Idaho.) Crash I would never put something as narrow as a 155 on a 5" wheel. They are made for a 4" wheel. If you want to stay with 155's (why?? I have no idea!!) then go with no more than a 4.5" wheel, and that is a bit wide. Larry From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 03:18:22 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 02:18:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <9d4a1a73a1892a94a.20080118193701.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <9d4a1a73a1892a94a.20080118193701.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <441250190801190218r5ce74297j133f68bdddf5e45d@mail.gmail.com> Since Datsun transmissions are getting expensive what would be next best choice. Some type of Toyota Celica transmission or a Nissan 300z. Might be about time to see what else we can use and lets not forget the red headed step children with the 1500 engines. Our only choice is the Ford T9 which are really hard to find in the states. Anyone have any ideas? -g On 1/18/08, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > > A Datsun 5 speed just went for $700+ on Ebay. > > http://tinyurl.com/237l6c > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jan 19 04:08:07 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:08:07 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware References: <095201c85920$f9032ea0$6401a8c0@Larry><008801c859f0$059b5c30$6401a8c0@Larry> <435203034.20080118164529@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <002001c85a8b$92463dd0$14348a56@tairswork> >From this side of the pond I echo that. NORTON was amongst one of the reasons I got a new computer many years ago, without a hard drive wipe I could not get rid of them. I now use AVG (paid for version but ran the free one for around 5 years), Spysweep, and Ad-Aware. They run at all times. Putting Spysweep on first caused installation problems when installing AVG. Try an install of AVG first, then disable it. Install Spysweep, turn that off then enable AVG and run that and then the same with Spysweep. It worked for me and they seem to work happily together now and if virus attacked either one will catch it. Windows Defender gets a good rating and that runs from start up as well. Ad-Aware and Xoft Spy just sit on top and are run a couple of times per week. I cannot work without my computer now and do get a little (some may say 'very' ) paranoid as far as this goes. All I will say is that if I don't clean my computer on a regular basis progs that are not mine and are beyond my control infest my computer. There are other measures I take to safeguard data but they aren't for public consumption. As an indication of what is there when connecting my wife's new computer to the net last year, we had 5 spyware progs install themselves between installing AVG and the net connection. The only site we had visited was AVG's. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Spyware > Hello Larry, > > STAY AWAY from NORTON... it is as intrusive as actually > gettting a virus!!!! you can't rid yourself of all the crap > norton installs without asking or permission!!!! THEN, Norton > CHARGES your credit card automatically .. every year.. .. > ... .. SCREW NORTON!!! > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > "66 Sprite > I'm not tense, just terribly, terribly alert. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jan 19 05:57:11 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:57:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? Message-ID: I put 78 or 80 series on my 6" VW "White" spoked wheels. And they were nothing special. I think Sears Radials if I remember correctly, 185x15's. The car handled like it was on rails...... seriously. Seems the more tire "under" rather than "outside" the rim, the better the car handled and held in the turns at highway speeds. Of course, like anything else, I'm sure it can be overdone, but this thing stuck like glue in the dry and wasn't bad in the rain, either. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: David Ramsey Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:22 AM To: 'Larry Macy' Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? Just a couple of reasons I can think of: They fit They are the right size They never rub even when you pretend to be Mr. Racer They can be bought in any tire store They cost less than 1/2 the fake racer cool tires that are special order (have you ever tried to buy a 160XRZ20X13 in Boise, Idaho.) Crash I would never put something as narrow as a 155 on a 5" wheel. They are made for a 4" wheel. If you want to stay with 155's (why?? I have no idea!!) then go with no more than a 4.5" wheel, and that is a bit wide. Larry You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 19 06:11:18 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:11:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. References: <001f01c85a18$482728e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080118154206.036c0d88@nosimport.com><016001c85a31$78924b90$6401a8c0@Larry> <02b901c85a52$e01638f0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <036a01c85a9c$c7a50d60$6401a8c0@Larry> See what too much Miller Lite does to your brain, Ed? Anon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cap'n Bob Re: UK guys, Scotland, small planes and less LBC content. <> And they are gonna WIN, Larry!!!! _______________________________________________ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 19 06:14:43 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:14:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Message-ID: At those high prices for Datsun trans you might find it cheaper to have a T9 shipped from the UK. It's possible almost a realstic prospect to ship a stripped or partially stripped box in hand luggage. Regards Daniel In a message dated 19/01/2008 10:18:53 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: Our only choice is the Ford T9 which are really hard to find in the states. Anyone have any ideas? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Jan 19 06:34:46 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:34:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Formula Junior Message-ID: <154EA1AC627648D9909CD5715589C1CC@HomeComputer> Many Spridget owners know that the A-series engine was used in Formula Junior race cars, but how many knew that some of them even used Spridget A-Arms? http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/204516,13763,0,0/photo.aspx http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/other/1053458148/1053458148lh.htm Have any of you ever thought about building up a Formula Junior type vehicle from the remains of a Spridget? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Jan 19 07:07:04 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:07:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-lites Message-ID: <2766BCC7494A47B5846386757FC4ECF7@HomeComputer> I ran across this ad for mini-lites for sale. You'd have to check to be sure they would fit a Spridget. http://www.race-cars.com/partbd/messages/17269.htm Author: Bob January 9, 2008 at 09:29:13 from 161.51.3.234 4 minilites 13" x 5"; 3/16" positive offset; 4 x 4" bolt circle; 1 pair has a flat surface at the rim; 1 pair has a slightly curved rim; $200/pair or $300 for 4; buyer pays shipping From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 07:16:02 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:16:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <20080118.212913.416.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <308408.68784.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > The weight won't mean squat on a street car Probably not, but for $90 a set more for wheels that will be on a streetcar forever, why not do it better? You could always rationalize it with resale value. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 19 07:18:55 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:18:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Formula Junior References: <154EA1AC627648D9909CD5715589C1CC@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <039901c85aa6$3a105900$6401a8c0@Larry> Spridget A-arms and swivel axles would be a lot of unsprung weight. Lightweight tubular A-arms, like they have on the uppers, would be much better. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Swanson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 7:34 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Formula Junior Many Spridget owners know that the A-series engine was used in Formula Junior race cars, but how many knew that some of them even used Spridget A-Arms? http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/204516,13763,0,0/photo.aspx http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/other/1053458148/1053458148lh.htm Have any of you ever thought about building up a Formula Junior type vehicle from the remains of a Spridget? _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 07:30:25 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:30:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <03a001c85aa6$ad769580$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <862071.8387.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron, that's more like $90 a wheel more for the > Panasports AH - I read "$90 difference". Then I'd agree with David Littlefield 100%, I'd personally go with Miniators on a street car. I'm feeling better about my recent trade as well. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sat Jan 19 07:37:14 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:37:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <012d01c85aa8$c8ac74d0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> List, All of a sudden I'm receiving "Bounce_Notice_From". Not just one, but one after the other. What's happening? Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? Michael From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sat Jan 19 07:40:14 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:40:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ATTENTION: Bounced Message Notification, total bytes stored. Message-ID: <014401c85aa9$340e1490$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Is anyone else getting these? My Inbox and Sent Items is virtually empty. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: ATTENTION: Bounced Message Notification, total bytes stored. >A message was sent to you that was returned to the sender(bounced) > because it would have caused your mailbox quota to be exceeded. > > The following is the reason that the message was over quota: > > Quota Type: total bytes stored > Quota Available: 0 > Total Quota: 10240000 > > The following is the information on the message that was bounced: > > Sender: "Michael Conn" > Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) > Size: 3066 > Message ID: <012d01c85aa8$8ac74d0$210a8c0 at YOURD28EB17757> > Date: Sat Jan 19 09:37:16 2008 > > Reply-To: [No Reply-To] > > To fix this problem, delete some messages from your mailbox, and contact > the sender to resend the message. > > If the size of the message is too big, contact the sender to reduce the > size of the message and resend the message. From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sat Jan 19 08:26:33 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <000b01c85aaf$ac2b88d0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> I think I've fixed the e-mail problem. All should be well now. So this is a test to see, if it (the e-mail) will go out or be returned. Michael From RampantNM at aol.com Sat Jan 19 08:58:54 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:58:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 49 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/19/2008 6:35:30 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Check around, you might be able to get a better price than Moss. I might even be able to source a used set if you're interested. I bought minilite look alikes from Ebay, one of the powersellers, and they look just fine. They are 15" for my BGT, but were under $600 including lugs, caps and freight. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 19 09:19:48 2008 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:19:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Formula Junior References: <154EA1AC627648D9909CD5715589C1CC@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <002301c85ab7$1d7d11f0$d92af904@D1PWFG61> It would be fun to build a Formula Junior. However, it wouldn't be accepted as into any of the Vintage race groups. . . . Or you could just buy an old 1960 Lotus Seven America. It is pretty much the same thing. Mike C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Swanson" To: Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 8:34 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Formula Junior > Many Spridget owners know that the A-series engine was used in Formula > Junior race cars, but how many knew that some of them even used Spridget > A-Arms? > > > > http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/204516,13763,0,0/photo.aspx > > > > http://www.race-cars.com/carsold/other/1053458148/1053458148lh.htm > > > > Have any of you ever thought about building up a Formula Junior type > vehicle > from the remains of a Spridget? From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 09:43:08 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:43:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was at a show and I happen to see the adapter plate on a Sprite. I ask asked if he was running a Datsun five speed. The plate was a little thinker then the one supplied by Paul. He told me it was a T50 Toyota conversion. I think he said the car came from Oz or that area of the world. I also asked what he paid for the install. He did not know because it was installed in the car when he bought it. I really do not know any thing more on the Toyota unit. Just happen to talk to some one who was running one. May be one of the listeners from down under knows. Vigil Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: At those high prices for Datsun trans you might find it cheaper to have a T9 shipped from the UK. It's possible almost a realstic prospect to ship a stripped or partially stripped box in hand luggage. Regards Daniel In a message dated 19/01/2008 10:18:53 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: Our only choice is the Ford T9 which are really hard to find in the states. Anyone have any ideas? You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 09:58:59 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:58:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-lites In-Reply-To: <2766BCC7494A47B5846386757FC4ECF7@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <588153.50068.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I happen to see this add for a couple of transmissions. Datsun is not the only one prourd of there product. Two Spridget dog-ring transmissions for sale as follows: Richmond Transmission, complete with annular clutch release system. Rebuilt prior to 2006 SCCA Runoffs and not used since. $3500 firm. Haynes Dog-Ring Transmission. Similar to the above tranny but uses a stock clutch slave and release system. Only 3 weekends since it was completely gone through with new dog rings and shift forks. $2500 firm Vigil Dean Swanson wrote: I ran across this ad for mini-lites for sale. You'd have to check to be sure they would fit a Spridget. http://www.race-cars.com/partbd/messages/17269.htm Author: Bob January 9, 2008 at 09:29:13 from 161.51.3.234 4 minilites 13" x 5"; 3/16" positive offset; 4 x 4" bolt circle; 1 pair has a flat surface at the rim; 1 pair has a slightly curved rim; $200/pair or $300 for 4; buyer pays shipping You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 10:02:31 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:02:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <862071.8387.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <755567.37325.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You could always get rims made from your centers. Then you can set the off set to any thing you desire. You can even use your hub caps. A whole set painted is about $400 total. Vigil Ron Soave wrote: --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron, that's more like $90 a wheel more for the > Panasports AH - I read "$90 difference". Then I'd agree with David Littlefield 100%, I'd personally go with Miniators on a street car. I'm feeling better about my recent trade as well. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 19 10:12:00 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:12:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay References: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <058701c85abe$679b82b0$0401a8c0@midget> >I was at a show and I happen to see the adapter plate on a Sprite. I ask >asked if he was running a Datsun five speed. The plate was a little thinker >then the one supplied by Paul. He told me it was a T50 Toyota conversion. I >think he said the car came from Oz or that area of the world. I also asked >what he paid for the install. He did not know because it was installed in >the car when he bought it. I really do not know any thing more on the >Toyota unit. Just happen to talk to some one who was running one. May be >one of the listeners from down under knows. I do recall researching a Toyota conversion from down there when I started planning for my 5-speed. At the time it was highly rated, especially as it came with detailed instructions and every nut and washer needed. http://www.conversioncomp.co.nz/about.php From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 19 10:18:14 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:18:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun tranny/Toyota T50 Message-ID: <446589001.20080119091814@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, seems that someone already makes the kits... http://www.morrisminorparts.co.nz/product_info.php?products_id=96 hmmm!.. most of the conversion info that i ran across in researching this was from OZ! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) "Who's your favorite operatic tenor?" Tom asked placidly. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jan 19 10:19:41 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:19:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's a site that compares the 3 choices. http://www.mgcars.org.uk/midgetspriteclub/MascNew/TechTips/4to5Speed.html I haven't read it yet. I googled "toyota gearbox midget" to find a bunch of sites. -----Original Message----- From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com I was at a show and I happen to see the adapter plate on a Sprite. I ask asked if he was running a Datsun five speed. The plate was a little thinker then the one supplied by Paul. He told me it was a T50 Toyota conversion. I think he said the car came from Oz or that area of the world. I also asked what he paid for the install. He did not know because it was installed in the car when he bought it. I really do not know any thing more on the Toyota unit. Just happen to talk to some one who was running one. May be one of the listeners from down under knows. Vigil Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: At those high prices for Datsun trans you might find it cheaper to have a T9 shipped from the UK. It's possible almost a realstic prospect to ship a stripped or partially stripped box in hand luggage. Regards Daniel In a message dated 19/01/2008 10:18:53 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: Our only choice is the Ford T9 which are really hard to find in the states. Anyone have any ideas? From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 19 10:28:14 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:28:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <197718372.20080119092814@pacifier.com> Hello, also this page http://www.conversioncomp.co.nz/products.php?which=54&return=18 seems to show the toyota 4k starlet tranny (what the hell is that?) being used with 1275 engines, while the t50 is is better suited when using the 1500 engines... .. can't seem to find a price in $NZ -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I have no idea," said Tom thoughtlessly. From kramer.allen at comcast.net Sat Jan 19 11:12:11 2008 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:12:11 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Message-ID: <011920081812.27792.47923D7B00068BCB00006C902200748184020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Check out this web site. About middle of page. Allen -------------- Original message -------------- From: > I was at a show and I happen to see the adapter plate on a Sprite. I ask asked > if he was running a Datsun five speed. The plate was a little thinker then the > one supplied by Paul. He told me it was a T50 Toyota conversion. I think he said > the car came from Oz or that area of the world. I also asked what he paid for > the install. He did not know because it was installed in the car when he bought > it. I really do not know any thing more on the Toyota unit. Just happen to talk > to some one who was running one. May be one of the listeners from down under > knows. > > Vigil > > Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > At those high prices for Datsun trans you might find it cheaper to have a T9 > shipped from the UK. It's possible almost a realstic prospect to ship a > stripped or partially stripped box in hand luggage. > > Regards > > Daniel > > In a message dated 19/01/2008 10:18:53 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com > writes: > > Our only choice is the Ford T9 which > are really hard to find in the states. Anyone have any ideas? > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kramer.allen at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jan 19 11:20:55 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-lites In-Reply-To: <588153.50068.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <588153.50068.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <486B8B4B-77AA-4B9C-A692-CA04CA1F8997@comcast.net> Ok, you win.. what are "dog rings"? Synchro's? Lester On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:58 AM, wrote: > I happen to see this add for a couple of transmissions. Datsun is > not the only one prourd of there product. > > > Two Spridget dog-ring transmissions for sale as follows: > > Richmond Transmission, complete with annular clutch release system. > Rebuilt prior to 2006 SCCA Runoffs and not used since. $3500 firm. > > Haynes Dog-Ring Transmission. Similar to the above tranny but uses a > stock clutch slave and release system. Only 3 weekends since it was > completely gone through with new dog rings and shift forks. $2500 firm > > Vigil > > Dean Swanson wrote: > I ran across this ad for mini-lites for sale. > > > > You'd have to check to be sure they would fit a Spridget. > > > > > > http://www.race-cars.com/partbd/messages/17269.htm > > > > Author: Bob January 9, 2008 at > 09:29:13 from 161.51.3.234 > > 4 minilites 13" x 5"; 3/16" positive offset; 4 x 4" bolt circle; 1 > pair has > a flat surface at the rim; 1 pair has a slightly curved rim; $200/ > pair or > $300 for 4; buyer pays shipping > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lbcs at embarqmail.com Sat Jan 19 11:28:44 2008 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:28:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cookie jar Message-ID: <000b01c85ac9$2042e380$0200a8c0@bills> What did the bugeye cookie jar go for on eBay? I lost the item number. I have two of them and I may my extra one in the box. Years ago when they first came out, I asked for one for Christmas and got one from my sister and my father. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 13:07:05 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:07:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190801191207y93beddbgc68bdf28e3b6a141@mail.gmail.com> On that note I think Frank C. is running a Toyota transmission in his A40. Frank, true? -g On 1/19/08, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > > I was at a show and I happen to see the adapter plate on a Sprite. I ask > asked if he was running a Datsun five speed. The plate was a little thinker > then the one supplied by Paul. He told me it was a T50 Toyota conversion. I > think he said the car came from Oz or that area of the world. I also asked > what he paid for the install. He did not know because it was installed in > the car when he bought it. I really do not know any thing more on the Toyota > unit. Just happen to talk to some one who was running one. May be one of the > listeners from down under knows. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 13:17:18 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:17:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-lites In-Reply-To: <486B8B4B-77AA-4B9C-A692-CA04CA1F8997@comcast.net> References: <588153.50068.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <486B8B4B-77AA-4B9C-A692-CA04CA1F8997@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190801191217q4d5b7b65j6cd9bf192f6df019@mail.gmail.com> Dog rings are next to the synchro and are what the synchro runs into to spin the gears. For a picture see *http://tinyurl.com/3daba4* Everyone pile on if I got that wrong. -g On 1/19/08, Lester wrote: > > Ok, you win.. what are "dog rings"? Synchro's? > > Lester > > > On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:58 AM, < > uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > wrote: > > > I happen to see this add for a couple of transmissions. Datsun is > > not the only one prourd of there product. > > > > > > Two Spridget dog-ring transmissions for sale as follows: > > > > Richmond Transmission, complete with annular clutch release system. > > Rebuilt prior to 2006 SCCA Runoffs and not used since. $3500 firm. > > > > Haynes Dog-Ring Transmission. Similar to the above tranny but uses a > > stock clutch slave and release system. Only 3 weekends since it was > > completely gone through with new dog rings and shift forks. $2500 firm > > > > Vigil > > > > Dean Swanson wrote: > > I ran across this ad for mini-lites for sale. > > > > > > > > You'd have to check to be sure they would fit a Spridget. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.race-cars.com/partbd/messages/17269.htm > > > > > > > > Author: Bob January 9, 2008 at > > 09:29:13 from 161.51.3.234 > > > > 4 minilites 13" x 5"; 3/16" positive offset; 4 x 4" bolt circle; 1 > > pair has > > a flat surface at the rim; 1 pair has a slightly curved rim; $200/ > > pair or > > $300 for 4; buyer pays shipping > > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 13:19:34 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:19:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801191219p5a771d09i153085333b322555@mail.gmail.com> With litre class (motorcycle) engines developing 175-190hp from the dealer, this little thing could be a gas! Herb > Maybe Bugeyes and Minis are too BIG!! > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4HdsDZX6c&feature=related From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 13:23:15 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:23:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Rare Original Sprite Model Kits In-Reply-To: <22332211.1200714566533.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <22332211.1200714566533.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801191223w1b000cb4h881f0784cf0e97ae@mail.gmail.com> Guess I should have checked email yesterday! Herb...who would have liked the BE. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 19 14:01:30 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:01:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801191219p5a771d09i153085333b322555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4HdsDZX6c&feature=related I couldn't get past the...well I guess it's "music"? If I turn the sound off, I can't hear the engine. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 14:16:50 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:16:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mini-lites In-Reply-To: <486B8B4B-77AA-4B9C-A692-CA04CA1F8997@comcast.net> Message-ID: <651106.6725.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> my guess is that they have a lock out on rev. I saw one of these boxes one time at the canery races. It looked like a rib cage with a lock out. It also had new gears - i do not remember what configuration. I am sure one of the racers know as i have seen this term used in the past.. Vigil Lester wrote: Ok, you win.. what are "dog rings"? Synchro's? Lester On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:58 AM, > wrote: > I happen to see this add for a couple of transmissions. Datsun is > not the only one prourd of there product. > > > Two Spridget dog-ring transmissions for sale as follows: > > Richmond Transmission, complete with annular clutch release system. > Rebuilt prior to 2006 SCCA Runoffs and not used since. $3500 firm. > > Haynes Dog-Ring Transmission. Similar to the above tranny but uses a > stock clutch slave and release system. Only 3 weekends since it was > completely gone through with new dog rings and shift forks. $2500 firm > > Vigil > > Dean Swanson wrote: > I ran across this ad for mini-lites for sale. > > > > You'd have to check to be sure they would fit a Spridget. > > > > > > http://www.race-cars.com/partbd/messages/17269.htm > > > > Author: Bob January 9, 2008 at > 09:29:13 from 161.51.3.234 > > 4 minilites 13" x 5"; 3/16" positive offset; 4 x 4" bolt circle; 1 > pair has > a flat surface at the rim; 1 pair has a slightly curved rim; $200/ > pair or > $300 for 4; buyer pays shipping > You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 19 14:17:34 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:17:34 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Dog or Synchro Message-ID: In the UK at least dog gear engagement is NOT the same as synchromesh gear engagement thought both do a very similar job. A dog box has dog gear engagement rather than synchro because it is tougher and less easily damaged than synchromesh. I think dogs survive clutchless gear changing (shifting) a lot better than synchros do. Of course your'e not supposed to change gear in a synchro box without the clutch. The photo just looked like a regular synchro. Regards W E S L A K E 1330 - back to the garage after this tea break. In a message dated 19/01/2008 20:17:50 GMT Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: Dog rings are next to the synchro and are what the synchro runs into to spin the gears. For a picture see *http://tinyurl.com/3daba4* Everyone pile on if I got that wrong. From hal at katemuir.com Sat Jan 19 14:27:03 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:27:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <011920081812.27792.47923D7B00068BCB00006C902200748184020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: Did I miss something here? Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Check out this web site. About middle of page. Allen From p.herder at cox.net Sat Jan 19 14:33:51 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:33:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: References: <011920081812.27792.47923D7B00068BCB00006C902200748184020A04040ED29D0A030E9D05@comcast.net> Message-ID: <96BD312A517C40E48DFCF174695323F4@PaulVU> I missed it also! Middle of WHAT page?!? Paul -----Original Message----- Did I miss something here? Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Check out this web site. About middle of page. Allen From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 16:36:32 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:36:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <96BD312A517C40E48DFCF174695323F4@PaulVU> Message-ID: <961689.65619.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I guess that one went over your head. Lol Mine too - nothig was there. may be we were not quick enough. Vigil Paul Herder wrote: I missed it also! Middle of WHAT page?!? Paul -----Original Message----- Did I miss something here? Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay Check out this web site. About middle of page. Allen You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 19 16:54:55 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:54:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801191219p5a771d09i153085333b322555@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080119235518.272BD187653@autox.team.net> Does it have a Fred Flintstone reverse? Crash With litre class (motorcycle) engines developing 175-190hp from the dealer, this little thing could be a gas! Herb From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 19 18:05:14 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: <47929E4A.1060605@comcast.net> Well I think I did good at the auction today. Kevin was there too so he can vouch. 1st Bugeye I bought was $110 2nd Bugeye I bought was $50 Rib case tranny $10 1275 needs help $20 a total of 6 bugeye doors $10 but I owe a buddy a beer as we split a 2nd pallet of doors for $5 so $12.50 or $2 each and I even got some really old wooden car parts with the pallet. Peter gets a few shock cores that were in a bucket with a tach drive genny complete with tach drive, BTW the whole bucket was $10 and it has a starter in it too. Pedal box with masters, and some more junk all cheap. Cars, parts, auction fees, and PA tax $256. I did good :) Now if anybody on the list wants a couple of original Dunlop Goldseal tires complete with the wide whitewalls, and they have decent tread and hold air, let me know. One Bugeye has those 2 tires on it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Jan 19 18:12:25 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:12:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <47929E4A.1060605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <06ff01c85b01$86e66480$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> THIEF!!!!! Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 19 18:13:46 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:13:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny on Ebay In-Reply-To: <058701c85abe$679b82b0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <933419.34279.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <058701c85abe$679b82b0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4792A04A.9010804@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > I do recall researching a Toyota conversion from down there I have this toyota conversion in my A40 coupled to a 1275. It works but will require tunnel cutting in a Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 19 19:30:54 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:30:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? References: Message-ID: <003601c85b0c$7fb8ece0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Man am I with you, Billy!!!! Arrrg!!! Your "guess" would be WRONG!!!! Yikes!!! From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 19 20:11:40 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:11:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <47929E4A.1060605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015401c85b12$7aedc180$f675fea9@p0k7l8> You mean, you mean Buster will no longer have a corner on NOS air on Dunlap Goldseal tires? You broke the cartel, FranK Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" > Now if anybody on the list wants a couple of original Dunlop Goldseal > tires complete with the wide whitewalls, and they have decent tread and > hold air, let me know. One Bugeye has those 2 tires on it. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 21:12:00 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:12:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Dog or Synchro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <560078.32038.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: > A dog box has dog gear engagement rather than > synchro because it is tougher > and less easily damaged than synchromesh. I think > dogs survive clutchless > gear changing (shifting) a lot better than synchros Yes - that's my very, very limited understanding. Supposedly if you drive them correctly, which means shift extremely quickly, they are indestructible. The number of rebuilt units on the market would seem to indicate that isn't exactly true. They are NOT at all suitable for the street. I have also heard from several SCCA guys with data acquisition systems that they save between .05 and .1 seconds per shift. Given the number of times you shift on the track, that adds up in a hurry. Another advantage of the Richmond/Taylor setup is the availability of many ratios for the track. One fast guy with a Mini told me he has his 4 speed geared so he can do 70 MPH in 1st gear, with 2, 3, 4 extremely close in ratio. You can usually spot those guys on the grid, as they have people pushing them to get rolling. On turn 7 at Blackhawk Farms, for instance, which is a really great Sprite track, I take the turn in 3rd or occasionally 2nd with a BMC factory straight cut close ratio box. The Richmond guys take it in 1st without drama and are able to keep their motors perfectly in the power band. I think I have just as much fun for $4000 less, though. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From bonas420 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 19 22:46:01 2008 From: bonas420 at yahoo.com (stoney bennett) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:46:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47929E4A.1060605@comcast.net> Message-ID: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! Holy smokes --- just how bad are those bugeyes? nsb Frank Clarici wrote: Well I think I did good at the auction today. Kevin was there too so he can vouch. 1st Bugeye I bought was $110 2nd Bugeye I bought was $50 Rib case tranny $10 1275 needs help $20 a total of 6 bugeye doors $10 but I owe a buddy a beer as we split a 2nd pallet of doors for $5 so $12.50 or $2 each and I even got some really old wooden car parts with the pallet. Peter gets a few shock cores that were in a bucket with a tach drive genny complete with tach drive, BTW the whole bucket was $10 and it has a starter in it too. Pedal box with masters, and some more junk all cheap. Cars, parts, auction fees, and PA tax $256. I did good :) Now if anybody on the list wants a couple of original Dunlop Goldseal tires complete with the wide whitewalls, and they have decent tread and hold air, let me know. One Bugeye has those 2 tires on it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as bonas420 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 20 07:12:16 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:12:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002a01c85b6e$767aab20$0201a8c0@midget> > What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! > Holy smokes --- just how bad are those bugeyes? Trust me, anyone but Frank would have felt gypped to have spent the money to register the paddle. http://tinyurl.com/2cdu28 was the link, but it doesn't do much now that the auction is over. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 07:25:52 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:25:52 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] A better Cobra? Message-ID: What a riot! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 20 07:38:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> stoney bennett wrote: > What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Jan 20 07:54:40 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:54:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <69cq7p$2dmm7e@email.mtu.edu> Frank, Are your purchases shown on the auction site in their photo area? At 09:38 AM 1/20/2008, Frank Clarici wrote: >stoney bennett wrote: > > What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! > >http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967 > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From sprite58 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 20 08:14:40 2008 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:14:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee giveaway Spridget Message-ID: Sprite Jubilee giveaway Spridget A date, Saturday February 17 through Wednesday 21, 2008, has been set in an attempt to see if the we can put together the Sprite Jubilee Spridget. If you would like to donate some of your time, materials, parts and expertise to help with this project contact Rick Moses. Email dr.moses at verizon.net or telephone 877-748-3165. You do not have to be a Spridget expert to lend a hand!!! At minimum, if we cannot get the car to a giveaway condition, we want to put it back on the road. The Sprite Jubilee car would then be available for those coming to Sprite Jubilee without a Spridget. They can use it for the many scheduled events. Work will be done in one of two small heated garages. A list of what appears to be needed for this car is located at http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/gaway_helpneed.html At this point in time we will not change the car by adding a Bugeye bonnet, numbers 5 through 12, nor painting it gold, numbers 14 through 16. John Plankey from Florida will be exchanging the transmission. I have taken time off from my patients to help. Food, beverage will be provided. Accommodations in three apartments will also be provided as needed and space allows. Please let me know if your are coming. The SJ Spridget car is located at 1421 East Chocolate Avenue, Hershey, PA 17033 so you can Google the map directions or just call us. Thank you for considering this request. Rick Moses _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 20 09:11:39 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:11:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> Message-ID: Damn! We missed the firearms auction too. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 09:29:53 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:29:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: References: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801200829q6c877db9i9c5f7ce91432f959@mail.gmail.com> On 1/20/08, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Damn! We missed the firearms auction too. I wonder if there were any cats in the auction? -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 20 09:38:49 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:38:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> <43840a7e0801200829q6c877db9i9c5f7ce91432f959@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006201c85b82$ef735bd0$0201a8c0@midget> > I wonder if there were any cats in the auction? I have three of them here... Care to place a bid? From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 09:40:54 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:40:54 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: 3, Dave?? Glutton for punishment... :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 20 09:49:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 10:49:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: Message-ID: <006801c85b84$757a9e40$0201a8c0@midget> > 3, Dave?? Glutton for punishment... :) The oldest is Trish's, then there is the biggest which is Alex's; I have the smallest and youngest, but she is the one with the claws ;-) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 10:04:35 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:04:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: Quite the aaaahhhh.........cat-loving family there, Dave! Mine is involved in his favorie past-time, sleeping. She woke up earlier, ate, went out and came pretty much immediately back in considering 25F out there his AM. Currently sacked out while laying against one wall, face-first into the Southwest corner of living room area. How the hell she breaths with her nose buried face-first in a corner beats the hell outta me.....weirdo. CapBob Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jan 20 13:31:19 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:31:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <755567.37325.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c85ba3$6a2585e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Finally getting a few minutes to sit in front of the computer, and I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my question. I've received a lot of good information! I've got several months in which to make my decision, and, what with all of the other project "mouths to feed", I'll probably just refurbish the OE wheels that came on the car (it was a totally complete, original car when I got it 27 years ago). It sounds like, should I elect to go with the Minilite repros, or something similar, rubbing won't be a problem with the 155s I will be running. As a former SCCA racer (E production MGB), I'm very familiar with wide tires and their performance characteristics. So, I'm quite comfortable with 155s on a 5" wheel width....absolutely no problems at all with that combination. Since I actually LIKE driving my Spridgets it the rain, on occasion (I live in "Pennsylrainia", after all, right Frank?), I prefer to stay with the skinnier tires for the street. More than just about anything, I hate hydro-planning on fat tires, on light cars......and I've had more experience with just that than I care to think about. Of course, they DO look nice on a Spridget (the wide tires), I must admit ;) Thanks again, guys. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 12:03 PM To: Ron Soave; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? You could always get rims made from your centers. Then you can set the off set to any thing you desire. You can even use your hub caps. A whole set painted is about $400 total. Vigil Ron Soave wrote: --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron, that's more like $90 a wheel more for the > Panasports AH - I read "$90 difference". Then I'd agree with David Littlefield 100%, I'd personally go with Miniators on a street car. I'm feeling better about my recent trade as well. Ron From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jan 20 13:43:03 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:43:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huffaker tube frame racer soon to be for sale Message-ID: <000301c85ba5$0df2b340$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Several months ago, my former racing partner and close friend Jim Wangler died quite unexpectedly. He had always told his wife that, in the event of his death, she should just "call Oz" to come out and sort through all of his racing stuff for her. So, I'll be making a trip to St. Louis in the very near future. Much of the stuff is actually from his former G production Midget, which he gave to my son several years ago (after collecting a spinning Alfa on the banking at St. Louis International). I'm rebuilding that one for my son and me to race in vintage events, so, I'll probably buy all of those spares from the estate. However, Wang's main project, at the time of his death, was an ex-Terry Terryberry F production (1275) Midget, which is a Huffaker tube-frame car. He bought is several years ago (following the Run-Offs) as a rolling chassis, and had nearly completed it for himself. Engine is in the car, and there are some pretty interesting spares going with it. So, if anyone might be interested in this car (which can NEVER be vintage eligible) for SCCA club racing, stay tuned to this list for updates. Bud Osbourne From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Jan 20 12:26:51 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. Message-ID: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Summer of 1971... Just graduated from high school. Drove from Cincinnati to Los Angeles in a 65 Sprite with another longhaired buddy. Got stopped by the fuzz in every state at least once! (Looked like the car used in a crime... Primrose yellow with a red left front fender???) Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 20 12:43:55 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:43:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> Message-ID: <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> > Summer of 1971... Just graduated from high school. Drove from Cincinnati > to Los Angeles in a 65 Sprite with another longhaired buddy. Got stopped > by the fuzz in every state at least once! (Looked like the car used in a > crime... Primrose yellow with a red left front fender???) Winter of 2008... Son just graduating from Marine boot camp. Will have flown from Chicago to Reno on American Airlines with Trish. Will pick up Crash's Bugeye and drive down PCH to San Diego. Will have to stop for gas in every state at least once. (Darn those tiny gas tanks!) 3200+ miles in a 48-year-old car... Will have been almost as "exciting" as driving a 1972 MG Midget parts car over 4000 miles for the 2006 BABE Rally. David Lieb From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Jan 20 12:56:07 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> Summer of '61. Alan and I drove from central Massachusetts up thru the mega busy route 28 corridor to Sebego Lake in Maine in a really old Sunbeam Rapier. The shift lever had been buggy, so we removed the top of the tranny tower. Alan drove and clutched while I changed gears with a big screwdriver. What fun! chuck From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 12:57:18 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:57:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <006201c85b82$ef735bd0$0201a8c0@midget> References: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> <43840a7e0801200829q6c877db9i9c5f7ce91432f959@mail.gmail.com> <006201c85b82$ef735bd0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801201157y53dc2581l107eefac2ed491fb@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 20, 2008 10:38 AM, David Lieb wrote: > I have three of them here... No good, David. You need one more to make sure there is a chock for each wheel.... This is my favorite time of year. It's cold enough that the frozen, dead cat wheel chocks don't thaw! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 20 13:00:28 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:00:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? References: <000201c85ba3$6a2585e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <118e01c85b9f$1b175220$6401a8c0@actualshop> <<(I live in "Pennsylrainia", after all, right Frank?), >> Nah Bud, Ask Diane!!!! L'dMAO at them 2 at Valentines' Rallye when they "arrived" (and I was standing 15' away)!!! STILL makes me grin when I think of it!!!! Don't think I have EVER seen a woman as MAD as she was!! see, LingOL again!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 13:18:22 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:18:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com> These are fun to read and contemplate.... Gives me an idea.... Maybe we should have a "Spridget Memorable Road Trip" session in one of the hospitality rooms at Lake of the Ozarks. Pictures would be nice along with your story, but the stories themselves would be a ball to listen to just as well! Might even stir up a "Peoples Choice" award for the best story. What do you all think?? Cheers!! Jim Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008. For info and pre-registration see: P.S. If you haven't pre-registered yet, we could sure use the funds. I have a bill for insurance and special event venue which pretty much eats up our on hand cash.... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 20 13:24:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:24:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88><00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> <43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> > These are fun to read and contemplate.... Gives me an idea.... Maybe > we > should have a "Spridget Memorable Road Trip" session in one of the > hospitality rooms at Lake of the Ozarks. Pictures would be nice along > with > your story, but the stories themselves would be a ball to listen to just > as > well! Might even stir up a "Peoples Choice" award for the best story. > What > do you all think?? Jim, You know as well as I do that these are a lot more fun to tell than to listen to ;-) Perhaps if everybody were to write an essay on "My Most Memorable Spridget Road Trip" and they were available to pick up and read at the event... SOunds like homework! David From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 13:35:13 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:35:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> <43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com> <00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801201235v75c6a0ecs2a123cd21db284a9@mail.gmail.com> Considering there will be adult libations in the hospitality area, I'm sure individuals will wax eloquent concerning their adventures. Those listening (there my be one or two - at least at the beginning of the story) may invoke the "I call BS!" phrase from time to time making for an even more adventuresome occasion. Not for the faint of heart or the unimaginative, I'm sure, but then we are all Spridgeteers, aren't we?? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On Jan 20, 2008 2:24 PM, David Lieb wrote: > > Jim, > You know as well as I do that these are a lot more fun to tell than to > listen to ;-) > Perhaps if everybody were to write an essay on "My Most Memorable Spridget > Road Trip" and they were available to pick up and read at the event... > SOunds like homework! > David From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Jan 20 13:54:51 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:54:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88><00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net><43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com><00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> <43840a7e0801201235v75c6a0ecs Message-ID: <005c01c85ba6$b39d7a40$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> I have two, both LBC related... In the summer of 2000 my father inlaw, myself and my buddy did a road trip from Oklahoma City to Sacramento, CA to retrieve a "free" MG. I can't recall the listers name now I think he has left the list and was more into Morris Minors. It was a fun trip with 4 guys in an extended cab pickup pulling a 12' trailer. Seems it took as long to get from OKC - Bakersfield as it did to get from Bakersfield to Sacremento. It was my first trip that far west, and we did it leaving on a friday and getting back on a monday. My second LBC trip involved my friend Cliff and I driving up to New York to meet David Oliner to retrieve my current project the "59 Ebay bugeye" many on the list were involved in getting it to David in New York. It was a good trip, another whirl wind of course as we left on a Saturday morning and returned home on Tuesday afternoon.. We stopped mid way and spent the night in Indy, at his his sister in laws, as well as spent the night at David's country home. He was a great guy, sad to know he is gone. Anyone know what became of his LBC's? He had another BE, my 1969 Sprite (former Brad F's car) as well as a TR3. Through road trips I've met several listers, including Brad, and David as well as David Littlefield when he comes to Hallett to race. Rick Fisk used to come to Oklahoma to do work at GM and he has continued to be a person i call a friend even after I met him :). Charlie OKC,OK 59 Sprite -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1986 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jan 20 14:05:18 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:05:18 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88><00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget><4793A757.40201@verizon.net><43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com> <00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <006901c85ba8$296b7280$87cf9a56@tairswork> The Department of Daft Ideas says; Have a section on the net where every-one can write down or even have pictures of their "Spridgets Memorable Road Trip" and when there are enough, suitable for printing, Ed can commission a book and use the vast profits to keep the site(s) going. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Jim Johnson" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. >> These are fun to read and contemplate.... Gives me an idea.... Maybe >> we >> should have a "Spridget Memorable Road Trip" session in one of the >> hospitality rooms at Lake of the Ozarks. Pictures would be nice along >> with >> your story, but the stories themselves would be a ball to listen to just >> as >> well! Might even stir up a "Peoples Choice" award for the best story. >> What >> do you all think?? > > Jim, > You know as well as I do that these are a lot more fun to tell than to > listen to ;-) > Perhaps if everybody were to write an essay on "My Most Memorable Spridget > Road Trip" and they were available to pick up and read at the event... > SOunds like homework! > David > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 17:35:53 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:35:53 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] hif-6 tuning Message-ID: Give a call to APT, give them your state of tune and they'll have a needle pretty much in the ballpark for your HiF. They also should have the properly angled manifold for your Spridget as well. www.aptfast.com Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 17:44:56 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:44:56 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Aggierson Message-ID: Paul IS cool. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 18:07:13 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:07:13 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: Fibreglass Bugeye Frogeye Car Co., Ltd. Isle of Wight Think it went bankrupt. A guy that used to be on this list had a red one. 1275, forward opening bonnet. Night light car...went very nicely he said, as I recall. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Jan 20 18:10:57 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:10:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] H4 small bulbs Message-ID: 203-655-8731 - John- Sports & Classics may possibly have these, Frankster. If not, he can certainly get them. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 20 19:39:17 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:39:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes Message-ID: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> As they were just after being forklifted onto the single car trailer I brought with me. Yes one is sitting on the other, the rear wheel openings fit very nicely over the front inner wheel wells ;) 1 is very restorable, the other is a decent rear clip with floors. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jan 20 20:06:11 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:06:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: you WI guys got this on? In-Reply-To: <478BE472.5070607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080121030610.CXTH1840.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Wild game. Who would have thought it would be down to overtime at Lambeau... Chris From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Jan 20 20:45:14 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:45:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: you WI guys got this on? In-Reply-To: <20080121030610.CXTH1840.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20080121030610.CXTH1840.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <4794154A.1020309@wi.net> Chris Manuel wrote: > Wild game. Who would have thought it would be down to overtime at > Lambeau... > > Chris > > Yup, not quite what we wanted was it? Congratulations to the Giants; they certainly out-played us. (maybe now we can get rid of Harris?) Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jan 20 20:46:20 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:46:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: you WI guys got this on? References: <20080121030610.CXTH1840.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <00dc01c85be0$2f68ac10$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> And a BEAUTIFUL "master piece" at that, Chris!!! Wish I knew 1st couple barspf the Giants Fight Song!!!!! Loving it!!!! Wish the Chargers had made it!!!!! ED From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 21:14:28 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:14:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> References: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801202014na1508a7x9581b5f63b55f63b@mail.gmail.com> Whoa. Hey Linda, check out the background in pic #2. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jan 20 22:30:47 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:30:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: <118e01c85b9f$1b175220$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <000d01c85bee$c6bd54e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Never met Diane, but have met Frank. Having seen an episode similar to what you describe, on one of our local Triumph club tours (man, she was PISSED, not to mention very wet), I got a chuckle out of it, myself. Have you ever noticed how guys get a big laugh anytime a woman is visibly pissed-off, as long as she's pissed at someone else ;)? Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of shop at justbrits.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 3:00 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? <<(I live in "Pennsylrainia", after all, right Frank?), >> Nah Bud, Ask Diane!!!! L'dMAO at them 2 at Valentines' Rallye when they "arrived" (and I was standing 15' away)!!! STILL makes me grin when I think of it!!!! Don't think I have EVER seen a woman as MAD as she was!! see, LingOL again!! From abcoz at hky.com Sun Jan 20 23:02:37 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:02:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001301c85bf3$39672260$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Frank, What happened to the other ones? Sure wish I could have gotten away with driving over there, w/my trailer and some cash. However, my wife is in a dangerous (to me and my car projects, that is) frame of mind right now, so I'm maintaining a low profile. Suffice it to say that a kitchen remodeling, a new "powder room", and a few other things will have to be completed before another car (or collection of parts) shows up in my garage. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:39 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes As they were just after being forklifted onto the single car trailer I brought with me. Yes one is sitting on the other, the rear wheel openings fit very nicely over the front inner wheel wells ;) 1 is very restorable, the other is a decent rear clip with floors. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwramsey at att.net Mon Jan 21 01:53:13 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:53:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080121085344.E160418788D@autox.team.net> Frank, in that second picture you look just like the cat that has swallowed the canary. I wouldn't doubt that you have the one on the road next week. Crash As they were just after being forklifted onto the single car trailer I brought with me. Yes one is sitting on the other, the rear wheel openings fit very nicely over the front inner wheel wells ;) 1 is very restorable, the other is a decent rear clip with floors. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Jan 21 06:36:38 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:36:38 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? Message-ID: "PO"D female" What is having one of these in your life like, guys? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 06:46:35 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:46:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought that you had a fair amount of experience in that dept.? >From: "Robert E. Shlafer" >"PO"D female" > >What is having one of these in your life like, guys? :) > >Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 07:03:39 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:03:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> Message-ID: I am constantly amazed at the supply and the low prices of LBCs in the US. Here in Ottawa, the prices asked are much higher and alot fewer between, even though there were 3 dealers ( Spitfire/MGB/MG Midget/ Mini ) in and around Ottawa, back in the day. And, Frank seems to be a magnet for them. Way to go Frank! RD >From: Frank Clarici > >As they were just after being forklifted onto the single car trailer I >brought with me. >Yes one is sitting on the other, the rear wheel openings fit very nicely >over the front inner wheel wells ;) >1 is very restorable, the other is a decent rear clip with floors. > >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg >http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 07:05:00 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:05:00 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Mosport Message-ID: FYI. I spotted this sort of by accident ... Street address: Mosport International Raceway, Orono, Ontario View map Location: Toronto Date Listed: 01-Dec-07 Looking for Austin Healey Sprite owners to join us in celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Bugeye at Mosport on June 20 - 22. VARAC's (Vintage Automobile Racing Association of Canada) Vintage Festival features a car show on Sunday with a parade lap around the world famous Mosport International Raceway at noon plus Sprite feature races Saturday & Sunday. As an added attraction, we will be featuring the return of Can Am Thunder to Mosport. If you love the sound of rumbling V8's or if you remember what some have called the greatest racing series ever, you will want to be at Mosport June 20-22, 2008! For more information, visit varac.ca From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Jan 21 07:05:39 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:05:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? Message-ID: Not really, Bob...they chose to enter voluntarily based on "what you see is what you get"....so.... :) Now to be fair, my profession took me away from home 4 days a week. So, just imagine how bad I must have been to live with, only being around 3 days a week!!!! :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jan 21 07:17:21 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:17:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes References: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001201c85c38$5659d170$6401a8c0@personal> What a mess, looks like the price was right. Glad one can be brought back. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes > As they were just after being forklifted onto the single car trailer I > brought with me. > Yes one is sitting on the other, the rear wheel openings fit very nicely > over the front inner wheel wells ;) > 1 is very restorable, the other is a decent rear clip with floors. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Jan 21 07:19:25 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:19:25 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes Message-ID: ".....and fewer between"...exactly, Bobster. they say most Bugeyes ended up over here and that "changes" were US market driven accordingly. LOL....THEY are a magnet FOR Frank..... ...have tools, truck and knowhow...will travel! :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 08:07:23 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:07:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: One of the folks on my music lists, is in international transportation. I didn't know if any UK lister would have any interest in attending the US Lake of the Ozarks gathering, but perhaps this is a way for those interested, to have their cars here as well. I have pasted his email, and information below. Brad, We do this type of service all the time. If you have an idea of volume I may be able to offer a club discount that shows you as putting the program together. If we can consolidate the orders we can save the group a good bit. If there is someone I should contact please let me know. Otherwise, feel free to pass my number along to anyone that has an interest. Thanks for the opportunity. Wes Thornton Executive Vice President Security Relocation Group, Inc. 800.521.1993 919.736.2355 fax -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Mon Jan 21 08:23:38 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:23:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <003b01c85c41$989aa380$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> List Here's an observation. As I understand it the List has a good number of members. Why is it, in the main, e-mails appear to pass only between a few of those members? Michael From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 08:36:20 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:36:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <4868437.1200929780800.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> All of the others seem to have a real life? Is that the answer that you are looking for? Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Conn >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:23 AM >To: spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >List > >Here's an observation. > >As I understand it the List has a good number of members. Why is it, in the >main, e-mails appear to pass only between a few of those members? > >Michael ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Mon Jan 21 08:39:11 2008 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:39:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <25108684.1200718826565.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE60390EE0F@glitas07.garverinc.local> Wow, I guess my Mk2 (square arch) Sprite doesn't know that the Minators it's had since 1993 won't fit or aren't any good. Guess my Austin Marina and my AH3000 also haven't heard.... The three sets of Minators I own have been superb. But, I only do a little "spirited" mountain highway driving...no real racing. Just my 2-cents-worth... Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:00 PM To: Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Minators are nothing more than round boat anchors. You'd be smart to pay the extra for Panasports or buy my 4.5 width American Racing Equipment magnesium silverstones. They actually fit the square wheel arch without any modifying. Mike Carpenter Fairmont, West Virginia -----Original Message----- >From: Bud Osbourne >Sent: Jan 18, 2008 4:11 PM >To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" >Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy wheels"? > >Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest >of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I >want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 >difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the >"reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any experience >with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of unknown >offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might encounter (I >have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). >Thanks. >Bud Osbourne From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 08:47:33 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:47:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <24329678.1200930453077.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Jack, In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the difference, you would understand the comments made fully. . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: "Brashear, Jack, N" >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:39 AM >To: Mike/Donna Carpenter , Bud Osbourne , "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' > >Wow, I guess my Mk2 (square arch) Sprite doesn't know that the Minators >it's had since 1993 won't fit or aren't any good. Guess my Austin >Marina and my AH3000 also haven't heard.... The three sets of Minators >I own have been superb. But, I only do a little "spirited" mountain >highway driving...no real racing. Just my 2-cents-worth... >Jack > >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] >On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:00 PM >To: Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' > >Minators are nothing more than round boat anchors. You'd be smart to >pay the extra for Panasports or buy my 4.5 width American Racing >Equipment magnesium silverstones. They actually fit the square wheel >arch without any modifying. > >Mike Carpenter >Fairmont, West Virginia > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Bud Osbourne >>Sent: Jan 18, 2008 4:11 PM >>To: "Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net" >>Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloy >wheels"? >> >>Just killing some time before I get back out on the river for the rest >>of the day, and I happened to be thinking about what kind of wheels I >>want to use on my MkI Midget restoration. I see there is about a $90 >>difference in price between the bolt-on Panasports, and the >>"reproduction Mini-Lites" that Moss lists. Anybody have any experience >>with those "repros" from Moss? By going to a 5" wheel width, of >unknown >>offset, I'm wondering what sort of clearance issues I might encounter >(I >>have no plans to go with anything wider than 155s, however). >>Thanks. >>Bud Osbourne ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 21 08:57:03 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:57:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <24329678.1200930453077.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <24329678.1200930453077.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <014201c85c46$46718510$d3548f30$@com> Minilite magnesium (or American Racing Silverstones) wheels weigh 7 to 8 lbs a piece. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike/Donna Carpenter Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:48 AM To: Brashear,Jack,N; Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Hi Jack, In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the difference, you would understand the comments made fully. . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! Mike C From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 21 09:12:32 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:12:32 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <5194781.1200931952233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Probably for various reasons. Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute and most of the others don't see a reason to chime-in with a me-too answer. Also, many members don't participate in the Non-LBC content, and the other back-and-forth that is only really intended for a handful of the listers. As for the total number of subscribers, other than Mark B., who really knows that number? I would be interested in knowing it. (And from someone who knows the number rather than saying what they "think" it is.) People drift on and off as they become owners and then after they part with their cars and as they find the list useful or get turned-off by the number of emails or content. All kinds of reasons, Mike. There's a great core group of members in this forum and it is, and has-been, generally the best Sprite/Midget/Spridget resource in my 30 years around these cars. jay fishbein wallingford, CT http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Mike/Donna Carpenter >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:36 AM >To: Michael Conn , spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > >All of the others seem to have a real life? Is that the answer that you are looking for? > >Mike C > >-----Original Message----- >>From: Michael Conn >>Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:23 AM >>To: spridgets >>Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) >> >>List >> >>Here's an observation. >> >>As I understand it the List has a good number of members. Why is it, in the >>main, e-mails appear to pass only between a few of those members? >> >>Michael From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 09:15:39 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:15:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801210815q7bc67cf4pccf60610c784078e@mail.gmail.com> Nory, This is how the VW Split Window Bus window is counted: 5 on ether side 2 in front 1 in back and 4 tiny skylights on ether side of the top. If it were a 23 window there would be 2 more on ether side of the rear window at the corners. Enjoy, Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 16, 2008 10:44 PM, Nory wrote: > I didn't count 21 window on that video. Where are all of them? > > > On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW > > 21 window > > bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie > > sound > > file used in the video. Being I am a member of the Samba site > > forums as well > > I posted this link today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo- > > v4iI&NR=1 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 09:18:30 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:18:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but cool youtube video of the Bullet riddled VW bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6p6Fo-v4iI&NR=1 In-Reply-To: <478e6b78.22e7480a.629f.7f6aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <205cef430801161031x1fe17282l7cda603d2f03ee3@mail.gmail.com> <478e6b78.22e7480a.629f.7f6aSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801210818u6b78304am19a21539bb4f95cb@mail.gmail.com> David, Cool then you would be a VW bus guy I could ask questions to? What State did the bullet bus come from? It is incredible how the UK has driven the prices of all the Split Screen Buses to unrealistic levels, even the rusted out crap with no floors, motor trans or title they can still fetch thousands. I still love LBC's better but I wish I spent the last 30 years restoring these as it would be a fun investment. Never too late I'll own one someday but my father is in hospice and my spouse has cancer so that will all have to be on hold for a while. Between looking at VW Split Screen Buses and LBC's I am able to stay strong. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 16, 2008 3:38 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Linda, I helped with that project. Some of those bullet holes came from my > gun. I could point your friends to some much better project cars in the > same area. A couple that even still glow in the dark. > Crash > > > This is not LBC related but a very interesting video of a 1966 VW 21 > window > bus which was found in a desert and shot up will holes. Very eerie sound > file used in the videohttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 09:20:32 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:20:32 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <5194781.1200931952233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Down towards the bottom of the page at the link below, apparently you can get a list of list members. ( If you remember your password! :) ) I requested a pswd reminder be sent to me, but it hasn't arrived yet. I don't think! RD Doh! >From: type79 at ix.netcom.com >As for the total number of subscribers, other than Mark B., who really >knows that number? I would be interested in knowing it. (And from someone >who knows the number rather than saying what they "think" it is.) > >jay fishbein >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 09:27:22 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:27:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And, the published numbers are: ( drum roll please ... ) 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: >From: "Robert Duquette" > >Down towards the bottom of the page at the link below, apparently you can >get a list of list members. ( If you remember your password! :) ) I >requested a pswd reminder be sent to me, but it hasn't arrived yet. > >I don't think! > >RD >Doh! > > >From: type79 at ix.netcom.com > >As for the total number of subscribers, other than Mark B., who really > >knows that number? I would be interested in knowing it. (And from someone > >who knows the number rather than saying what they "think" it is.) > > > >jay fishbein > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 09:31:56 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:31:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <003301c85c4b$2398d3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > And, the published numbers are: > ( drum roll please ... ) > 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? I think not! From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 21 09:34:21 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:34:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <4794590D.21658.3AD065@dmg.bossig.com> Must have been the Marinade.... On 21 Jan 2008 at 16:27, Robert Duquette wrote: >> 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 09:39:19 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:39:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <4794590D.21658.3AD065@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: I'm happy to not yet be digested. I guess I still have a chance to get out. RD >From: "Dave G." > >Must have been the Marinade.... > >On 21 Jan 2008 at 16:27, Robert Duquette wrote: > >> 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: > >- >Dave G, KK7SS From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 09:43:12 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:43:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <5194781.1200931952233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute and most of > the others don't see a reason to chime-in That's not necessarily true. I chime in frequently. BZ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 09:53:14 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:53:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <003d01c85c4e$1d157890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute and most >> of >> the others don't see a reason to chime-in > That's not necessarily true. I chime in frequently. > BZ Me too. David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 21 09:55:07 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:55:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003301c85c4b$2398d3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <060201c85c4e$611a7ef0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > And, the published numbers are: > ( drum roll please ... ) > 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? I think not! _______________________________________________ Ah, but the 326 was a Pontiac engine. LAD From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 21 09:57:28 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:57:28 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Auction Message-ID: In a message dated 1/20/2008 12:02:50 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Damn! We missed the firearms auction too. Looked like some good stuff there too! There's another one in March. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 10:00:14 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:00:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <5194781.1200931952233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5194781.1200931952233.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: ... speaking of which, does anyone know of a similar list for MGA's? Contractor here is in need of one.. a list that is.. Lester On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:12 AM, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > Probably for various reasons. > snip > > There's a great core group of members in this forum and it is, and > has-been, generally the best Sprite/Midget/Spridget resource in my > 30 years around these cars. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, CT > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jan 21 10:17:41 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:17:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <24329678.1200930453077.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002e01c85c51$87eb24a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Mike, You may be the guy who could answer this question for me: While I'm pretty familiar with the "real" Minilites, and Revolutions (I have a set on my future vintage racing Midget); I'm wondering what the weight difference between Panasports and Minators is. I suspect that Panasports may not be very much lighter than the Minators, since they're more for "street"/"show" than the Minilites & Revolutions. That having been said, I should state that light weight is not my primary reason for considering the Minators. I know that the Panasports are of very high quality (and I know lots of guys who run them on their "street" cars), but, I'm suspicious that the current price is somewhat based upon "name recognition". Thanks. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:48 AM To: Brashear,Jack,N; Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Hi Jack, In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the difference, you would understand the comments made fully. . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! Mike C From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 10:07:18 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:07:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Italian - No LBC ( Humour? ) Message-ID: A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is galvanized when she hears one of the men say the following: ''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I come again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee twice. Then I come once-a-more.'' ''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.'' ''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend howa to spella Mississippi.'' From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 10:07:17 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:07:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Italian - No LBC ( Humour? ) Message-ID: A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and engage in animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores their conversation at first, but her attention is galvanized when she hears one of the men say the following: ''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I come again. Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee twice. Then I come once-a-more.'' ''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In this country we don't talk about our sex lives in public.'' ''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend howa to spella Mississippi.'' From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 10:09:51 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:09:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AE194DE-EA05-4DBD-BA45-B0050DC7233B@comcast.net> Me too, like this.. dinnnnnggggggg.... Lester see, wasn't that useless?? On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute >> and most of >> the others don't see a reason to chime-in > That's not necessarily true. I chime in frequently. > BZ From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jan 21 10:10:11 2008 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:10:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <003d01c85c4e$1d157890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <003d01c85c4e$1d157890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <00d101c85c50$7b9aa2d0$0202fea9@xp> >> Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute and >> most of the others don't see a reason to chime-in > That's not necessarily true. I chime in frequently. > BZ Not sure you could get less knowledgeable about a Sprite than I am, but I think I'll chime in about now anyway. Heard Saxon ...now back to work. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:12:50 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:12:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801202014na1508a7x9581b5f63b55f63b@mail.gmail.com> References: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> <5f00d9910801202014na1508a7x9581b5f63b55f63b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801210912k49b56d9as4fd2393383723620@mail.gmail.com> Yes Derf I can't figure out which is the best eye candy the VW's or the Sprites. Well if they were Split Screens it would be even better. The Bugeyes are beautiful in any condition. Nice work Frank : ) Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 20, 2008 11:14 PM, derf wrote: > Whoa. > Hey Linda, check out the background in pic #2. > > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 10:13:23 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:13:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1AE194DE-EA05-4DBD-BA45-B0050DC7233B@comcast.net> Message-ID: I dunno! I'm not quite sure what it means, ... but it seems to ring a bell! >From: Ewing Lester > >Me too, like this.. > > >dinnnnnggggggg.... > >Lester > > > >see, wasn't that useless?? > >On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > >> Often the more knowledgeable subscribers are quick to contribute > >> and most of > >> the others don't see a reason to chime-in > > > > That's not necessarily true. I chime in frequently. > > BZ >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 10:15:17 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:15:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003301c85c4b$2398d3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <060201c85c4e$611a7ef0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <005301c85c51$31ff7230$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> And, the published numbers are: >> ( drum roll please ... ) >> 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of >> Spridgets: > > Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? I > think not! > _______________________________________________ > > Ah, but the 326 was a Pontiac engine. True, but it weighed a WHOLE lot more than the SBC327 and did not rev as well. Pontiac only had the one V8 block for many many years (until they threw away all the tooling for it in the 80's when they decided they would never need a V8 again), so the 326 was the same block as the 455, IIRC, just with a lot more room left to bore it out. DL From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:16:24 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: <205cef430801210912k49b56d9as4fd2393383723620@mail.gmail.com> References: <479405D5.4070901@comcast.net> <5f00d9910801202014na1508a7x9581b5f63b55f63b@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430801210912k49b56d9as4fd2393383723620@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801210916k28d644e3oc4074ffea00fb0bd@mail.gmail.com> So Frank where did you have to go to get them I haven't been following as well with my dad dieing and spouse with cancer things are tough but watching your adventures is so uplifting. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 21, 2008 12:12 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Yes Derf I can't figure out which is the best eye candy the VW's or the > Sprites. Well if they were Split Screens it would be even better. The > Bugeyes are beautiful in any condition. Nice work Frank : ) > Lin > > 62 California Sprite "Pinky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > > On Jan 20, 2008 11:14 PM, derf wrote: > > > Whoa. > > Hey Linda, check out the background in pic #2. > > > > > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction1.jpg > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction2.jpg > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/auction3.jpg From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Mon Jan 21 10:17:11 2008 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:17:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite/Midget Magazine Message-ID: <4.1.20080121120345.00af6490@mail.bellsouth.net> Regarding some of the recent emails lamenting the position of Sprites and Midgets in the Big Healey and MG families, clubs, and magazines, there was a magazine a few years ago called Sprite/Midget that concentrated on just "our" cars. Unfortunately, it failed after a few issues. They also did one on MGBs with the same result. The magazine came about because of the success of the first one, Spitfire/GT6, which is still going strong. They have a great web site at www.triumphspitfire.com. John Goethert and Tom Broberg, of Profiles Marketing Group in Knoxville, TN who started it, thought the Sprite Midget and MGB communities would support a marque specific magazine even more strongly than the Spitfire people. But, I guess they were wrong! I know all this because, in addition to my major hobby of vintage racing my 1967 Midget and maintaining my '72, I write articles for about a dozen magazines, including race coverage, shows, features, and technical articles. I was really excited about SpriteMidget and disappointed when they closed it down. Howard Baugues edits the Spitfire mag out of Terre Haute, IN and has made it a great success. I don't know why SpriteMidget could not have done the same. Bob Spruck MGMaven Sharpsburg, GA 67 Midget Vintage Racer 72 Midget Street and Show 6 parts/project cars From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 10:18:35 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:18:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <005301c85c51$31ff7230$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: My parents had a '68 Pontiac ( Parrisienne? ) which was badged as a 327. Only in Canada? >From: "David Lieb" > > >> And, the published numbers are: > >> ( drum roll please ... ) > >> 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of > >> Spridgets: > > > > Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? >I > > think not! > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Ah, but the 326 was a Pontiac engine. > >True, but it weighed a WHOLE lot more than the SBC327 and did not rev as >well. >Pontiac only had the one V8 block for many many years (until they threw >away >all the tooling for it in the 80's when they decided they would never need >a >V8 again), so the 326 was the same block as the 455, IIRC, just with a lot >more room left to bore it out. >DL From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:28:40 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:28:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gettin there (67 progress) In-Reply-To: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> References: <47900134.2060603@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430801210928u15bd56d9if9ad771a3db40bab@mail.gmail.com> With Franks restoration updates none of us will feel badly that we missed the factory tour of the Sprite......hum maybe some of you actually did get the factory tour in the UK. I feel like I am at the plant watching the assembly line when ever I see his updated photos. It always make my day better to watch the birth of a Sprite. Good job Frank keep up the good work. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 17, 2008 8:30 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Moving right along with my 67. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67p.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67q.jpg > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67r.jpg > > And it looked like this 2 months ago. > > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a.jpg > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 10:37:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:37:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite/Midget Magazine References: <4.1.20080121120345.00af6490@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <006101c85c54$3e76f210$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Regarding some of the recent emails lamenting the position of Sprites and > Midgets in the Big Healey and MG families, clubs, and magazines, there was > a magazine a few years ago called Sprite/Midget that concentrated on just > "our" cars. Unfortunately, it failed after a few issues. They also did one > on MGBs with the same result. Bob, I subscribed to that magazine. It lasted over a year, because it merged with the MGB version AFTER I renewed my subscription. It tried to do too much too fast, IMHO. It wanted to be glossy and slick, but it did not want to put much effort into the editing side of things. Anyone else remember the infamous "cornhusker" article? It was a little too much eye candy and not enough substance... What was the name of that chick in "The Last Open Road"? Remember the late-night scene in Elkhart Lake? Sally something-or-other... Whereas I do not feel that this particular rag did justice to the cause, I also agree that the market is not ideal. An on-line resource and a few email lists do a lot more practical good. David Lieb From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 21 10:38:27 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:38:27 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite/Midget Magazine Message-ID: <7370203.1200937107754.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I was disappointed when Sprite/Midget Magazine went out of business too. It was right after I sent in my money to subscribe. I guess they used the money to keep the Spitfire Magazine afloat. Interesting business strategy. jay fishbein Wallingford, CT http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Bob Spruck >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 12:17 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite/Midget Magazine > >Regarding some of the recent emails lamenting the position of Sprites and >Midgets in the Big Healey and MG families, clubs, and magazines, there was >a magazine a few years ago called Sprite/Midget that concentrated on just >"our" cars. Unfortunately, it failed after a few issues. They also did one >on MGBs with the same result. > >The magazine came about because of the success of the first one, >Spitfire/GT6, which is still going strong. They have a great web site at >www.triumphspitfire.com. John Goethert and Tom Broberg, of Profiles >Marketing Group in Knoxville, TN who started it, thought the Sprite Midget >and MGB communities would support a marque specific magazine even more >strongly than the Spitfire people. But, I guess they were wrong! > >I know all this because, in addition to my major hobby of vintage racing my >1967 Midget and maintaining my '72, I write articles for about a dozen >magazines, including race coverage, shows, features, and technical >articles. I was really excited about SpriteMidget and disappointed when >they closed it down. Howard Baugues edits the Spitfire mag out of Terre >Haute, IN and has made it a great success. I don't know why SpriteMidget >could not have done the same. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:40:35 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:40:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430801210940r5f39e657w3fbbabfbb7b433c@mail.gmail.com> Frank were you able to get titles? Linda 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 20, 2008 9:38 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > stoney bennett wrote: > > What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! > > http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 21 10:41:15 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:41:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <062d01c85c54$d2b0f5c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Canadian Pontiacs used Chev motors, IIRC. That was back in the days when each brand of GM had -- more or less -- proprietary engines. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) My parents had a '68 Pontiac ( Parrisienne? ) which was badged as a 327. Only in Canada? >From: "David Lieb" > > >> And, the published numbers are: > >> ( drum roll please ... ) > >> 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of > >> Spridgets: > > > > Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? >I > > think not! > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Ah, but the 326 was a Pontiac engine. > >True, but it weighed a WHOLE lot more than the SBC327 and did not rev as >well. >Pontiac only had the one V8 block for many many years (until they threw >away >all the tooling for it in the 80's when they decided they would never need >a >V8 again), so the 326 was the same block as the 455, IIRC, just with a lot >more room left to bore it out. >DL You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 10:43:48 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:43:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801201235v75c6a0ecs2a123cd21db284a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> <00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net> <43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com> <00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget> <43840a7e0801201235v75c6a0ecs2a123cd21db284a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45004A69-4C85-44EE-95A0-9351174168B2@comcast.net> .. are similar SAAB stories eligible? How about if they involve Pro- Rally?? Lester On Jan 20, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Considering there will be adult libations in the hospitality area, > I'm sure > individuals will wax eloquent concerning their adventures. Those > listening > (there my be one or two - at least at the beginning of the story) > may invoke > the "I call BS!" phrase from time to time making for an even more > adventuresome occasion. Not for the faint of heart or the > unimaginative, I'm > sure, but then we are all Spridgeteers, aren't we?? ;-) > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June > 26-29, 2008!! > > For info and registration... > > On Jan 20, 2008 2:24 PM, David Lieb wrote: > >> >> Jim, >> You know as well as I do that these are a lot more fun to tell >> than to >> listen to ;-) >> Perhaps if everybody were to write an essay on "My Most Memorable >> Spridget >> Road Trip" and they were available to pick up and read at the >> event... >> SOunds like homework! >> David > _________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:48:38 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:48:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 Message-ID: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> This is a nice color for a 62 MKII Sprite on ebay 110215123099 too bad I'm keeping Pinky factory pink she would look hot in this color. Linda 62 California Sprite "PInky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 10:52:38 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:52:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <5213727.1200937958439.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Actually, Panasport has made different weight rims in the past. Some even say "For Racing Purposes Only" if you can get a set of those. They rule. They are a little more fragile but you'd have to hit a pot-hole pretty hard to crack one. Just a nice wheel. The Revos are nice. They don't seem to fit the Spridget appearance as well but nice and light. I actually think that the current price is more based on quality and work involved in manufacturing a lighter rim. Bud - where do you actually live? Maybe we can meet up some time. Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: Bud Osbourne >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 12:17 PM >To: 'Mike/Donna Carpenter' , "'Brashear,Jack,N'" , "'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net'" >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' > >Mike, >You may be the guy who could answer this question for me: While I'm >pretty familiar with the "real" Minilites, and Revolutions (I have a set >on my future vintage racing Midget); I'm wondering what the weight >difference between Panasports and Minators is. I suspect that >Panasports may not be very much lighter than the Minators, since they're >more for "street"/"show" than the Minilites & Revolutions. >That having been said, I should state that light weight is not my >primary reason for considering the Minators. I know that the Panasports >are of very high quality (and I know lots of guys who run them on their >"street" cars), but, I'm suspicious that the current price is somewhat >based upon "name recognition". >Thanks. >Bud > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] >Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:48 AM >To: Brashear,Jack,N; Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' > >Hi Jack, > >In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are >way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel >good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are >very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. > >Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to >compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you >can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the >difference, you would understand the comments made fully. > > . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 >more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! > >Mike C > > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 10:54:21 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:54:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 In-Reply-To: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: For a completely restored car, the engine looks quite dingy. But then, it IS a 2 cylinder, according to the spec sheet. On Jan 21, 2008 11:48 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > This is a nice color for a 62 MKII Sprite on ebay 110215123099 too bad I'm > keeping Pinky factory pink she would look hot in this color. > > Linda > > 62 California Sprite "PInky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 11:00:53 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:00:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips.. References: <1427566.1200857211373.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88><00a001c85b9c$caf97130$0201a8c0@midget> <4793A757.40201@verizon.net><43840a7e0801201218r7825e891h9f47698ee1fc62e3@mail.gmail.com><00af01c85ba2$87e01ba0$0201a8c0@midget><43840a7e0801201235v75c6a0ecs2a123cd21db284a9@mail.gmail.com> <45004A69-4C85-44EE-95A0-9351174168B2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <006d01c85c57$909122c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > .. are similar SAAB stories eligible? How about if they involve Pro- > Rally?? Lester, As long as they are 2-stroke Saabs... From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 21 11:08:29 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:08:29 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 Message-ID: <28877501.1200938909644.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> My recommendation to the seller: Lower your reserve and run to the bank with the $4,000 bid. PS What is growing inside the RF wheel-well? jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Brad Fornal >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 12:54 PM >To: Linda Grunthaner >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 > >For a completely restored car, the engine looks quite dingy. But then, it IS >a 2 cylinder, according to the spec sheet. > >On Jan 21, 2008 11:48 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> This is a nice color for a 62 MKII Sprite on ebay 110215123099 too bad I'm >> keeping Pinky factory pink she would look hot in this color. >> >> Linda From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 11:28:36 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:28:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: Real Minilites are of course available in Magnesium or Aluminium. Various companies have bought and sold the Minilite name in the UK over the years. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 15:48:00 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: Hi Jack, In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the difference, you would understand the comments made fully. . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! Mike C From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jan 21 11:33:15 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:33:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com><47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> <205cef430801210940r5f39e657w3fbbabfbb7b433c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005001c85c5c$160a0080$6401a8c0@personal> Frank don't need no darn titles. He makes them as well. LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Today's Auction > Frank were you able to get titles? > Linda > > 62 California Sprite "PInky" > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > On Jan 20, 2008 9:38 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > >> stoney bennett wrote: >> > What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! >> >> http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx?EventId=967 >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 11:32:55 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:32:55 EST Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: Time weighs more heavily on some peoples finger tips??? In a message dated 21/01/2008 15:23:46 GMT Standard Time, mconn19221 at roadrunner.com writes: As I understand it the List has a good number of members. Why is it, in the main, e-mails appear to pass only between a few of those members? From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 11:34:13 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:34:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <11570405.1200940453056.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I am referring to the early real magnesium Minilites that I have on my Bugeye. The real magnesium ones were not even labelled as Minilites until much later in production. The aluminum minilites you are referring to were named "Sport" Minilites. D O W N T O N 995 -----Original Message----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Jan 21, 2008 1:28 PM To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com, JNBrashear at garverengineers.com, abcoz at hky.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Real Minilites are of course available in Magnesium or Aluminium. Various companies have bought and sold the Minilite name in the UK over the years. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 15:48:00 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: Hi Jack, In comparison to real Minilites, Panasports, Revolutions etc., they are way overbuilt and heavy. Here is something that should make you feel good . . . the Minators should never break on your Sprite. They are very safe (though also a little boring) in that respect. Yes, I can state what I just did because I have owned the rims to compare. Do you know anyone with an actual magnesium Minilite that you can hold up in comparison to the Minator? If you could feel the difference, you would understand the comments made fully. . . . And then it is possible to buy the knock-on Minators that are 8 more lbs. of unsprung weight to slow you down. Run for your life! Mike C ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 11:34:13 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:34:13 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' "repro Mini-Lite alloywheels"? Message-ID: If I understand this right I think the answer is between the PC and the garage it's hard to say. In a message dated 21/01/2008 13:36:49 GMT Standard Time, pilotrob at webtv.net writes: "PO"D female" What is having one of these in your life like, guys? :) From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 11:36:16 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:36:16 EST Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes Message-ID: The new engine in my Sprite cost about the same as a DIY kitchen and bathroom for my house but at the present time, owing to shortage of funds I just have the new Sprite engine. Did I mention it has a W E S L A K E rocker cover? 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 04:52:40 GMT Standard Time, abcoz at hky.com writes: Suffice it to say that a kitchen remodeling, a new "powder room", and a few other things will have to be completed before another car (or collection of parts) shows up in my garage. From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jan 21 11:37:18 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:37:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 References: <28877501.1200938909644.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <006101c85c5c$a6a53290$6401a8c0@personal> Full restoration, I think not. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 > My recommendation to the seller: > > Lower your reserve and run to the bank with the $4,000 bid. > > PS What is growing inside the RF wheel-well? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Brad Fornal >>Sent: Jan 21, 2008 12:54 PM >>To: Linda Grunthaner >>Cc: Spridgets >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 >> >>For a completely restored car, the engine looks quite dingy. But then, it >>IS >>a 2 cylinder, according to the spec sheet. >> >>On Jan 21, 2008 11:48 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: >> >>> This is a nice color for a 62 MKII Sprite on ebay 110215123099 too bad >>> I'm >>> keeping Pinky factory pink she would look hot in this color. >>> >>> Linda > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 11:38:44 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:38:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 In-Reply-To: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's missing two cylinders, but it is a convertible. Wrong seats too. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 11:38:57 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:38:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] My auction Bugeyes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: W E S LA K E rocker cover? Never heard of it! Do they come in red? ( And, can you cook on it? ) >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >The new engine in my Sprite cost about the same as a DIY kitchen and >bathroom for my house but at the present time, owing to shortage of funds I >just >have the new Sprite engine. Did I mention it has a W E S L A K E rocker >cover? > >1330 > >In a message dated 21/01/2008 04:52:40 GMT Standard Time, abcoz at hky.com >writes: > >Suffice it to say that a kitchen remodeling, a new "powder room", and a >few other things will have to be completed before another car (or >collection of parts) shows up in my garage. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 11:39:49 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:39:49 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: I won't disagree. The 1990s production all had the same name you just had to order Mag as appose aluminium. Down Town - didn't Petula Clark sing that a lot earlier than 1995? Regards W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 18:34:40 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: I am referring to the early real magnesium Minilites that I have on my Bugeye. The real magnesium ones were not even labelled as Minilites until much later in production. The aluminum minilites you are referring to were named "Sport" Minilites. D O W N T O N 995 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 11:44:49 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:44:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Road Trips..SAABs?? Message-ID: <43840a7e0801211044pd3d8bfcvc01c45ff696f651c@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 21, 2008 12:00 PM, David Lieb wrote: > Lester, > As long as they are 2-stroke Saabs... They also have to include guns, cats, and Frank Zappa.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 11:45:43 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:45:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <22594639.1200941143809.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I know that you know better being a Brit! It sounds even better than Petula Clark! I do like her song too, though. D O W N T O N 995 -----Original Message----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Jan 21, 2008 1:39 PM To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com, JNBrashear at garverengineers.com, abcoz at hky.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' I won't disagree. The 1990s production all had the same name you just had to order Mag as appose aluminium. Down Town - didn't Petula Clark sing that a lot earlier than 1995? Regards W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 18:34:40 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: I am referring to the early real magnesium Minilites that I have on my Bugeye. The real magnesium ones were not even labelled as Minilites until much later in production. The aluminum minilites you are referring to were named "Sport" Minilites. D O W N T O N 995 ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 11:54:22 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:54:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <005001c85c5c$160a0080$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: >> Frank were you able to get titles? Isn't Mr. Clarici good enough for you? From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jan 21 11:57:53 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:57:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Rationalization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <69cq7p$2dtjes@email.mtu.edu> I rationalized the cost of a professionally applied paint job to my Sprite by the fact that I don't spend money on country club memberships, I don't golf, don't bowl, (don't drink, chew or go with girls that do), etc so my "vice" is that I paid to have my car professionally painted. BUT NOW, my government wants to give me money back!! Wow, and in an amount that will just about cover the paint job. Is this a great country, or what? Of course, I know that the money comes from the millions of tax payers in this land so I want to thank everyone on the Spridget list for doing your part to fund my hobby. I may even have enough money left over to buy one of those fancy W E S L A K E rocker covers with all the spaces in the name!! At 01:36 PM 1/21/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >The new engine in my Sprite cost about the same as a DIY kitchen and >bathroom for my house but at the present time, owing to shortage of >funds I just >have the new Sprite engine. Did I mention it has a W E S L A K E >rocker cover? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 12:02:05 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:02:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Alright, Billy started it, lets go.... 68 Seats wipers not parked correctly early 70's black grille Dash painted, not covered Incorrect shift knob and gaiter Many non standard items added to the instrument panel Front makers are amber, from a 70's car, not clear like in the 60's And been hit in the rear!! What a bargain!! On Jan 21, 2008 12:38 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > It's missing two cylinders, but it is a convertible. > Wrong seats too. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 12:02:14 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:02:14 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Now that you bring it up, if McCartney can get knighted, why shouldn't Frank get knighted for his roll in keeping these Brit cars alive ( and resurrecting them as well. )? And, once a knight ... well ... that's not too bad at his age. >From: Billy Zoom > > >> Frank were you able to get titles? >Isn't Mr. Clarici good enough for you? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 12:02:47 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops, should have been front "markers" On Jan 21, 2008 1:02 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Alright, Billy started it, lets go.... > 68 Seats > wipers not parked correctly > early 70's black grille > Dash painted, not covered > Incorrect shift knob and gaiter > Many non standard items added to the instrument panel > Front makers are amber, from a 70's car, not clear like in the 60's > And been hit in the rear!! > What a bargain!! > > > > On Jan 21, 2008 12:38 PM, Billy Zoom < billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote: > > > It's missing two cylinders, but it is a convertible. > > Wrong seats too. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 21 12:03:55 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:03:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: Message-ID: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) And, the published numbers are: ( drum roll please ... ) 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: ================================= As long as we are on the subject of list membership, who are the co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who were the original members and old timers that are still around? LAD (Enjoying the holiday away from the office, but working at home.) From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Jan 21 12:05:22 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:05:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Rationalization Message-ID: <32481925.1200942322305.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> If you do buy the WESTFIELD valve cover will you promise not to torture everyone with the fact that you have it? ;^) That corner of the market has already been covered. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: "Timothy H. Collins" >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 1:57 PM >To: Weslake1330 at aol.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Rationalization > >I rationalized the cost of a professionally applied paint job to my >Sprite by the fact that I don't spend money on country club >memberships, I don't golf, don't bowl, (don't drink, chew or go with >girls that do), etc so my "vice" is that I paid to have my car >professionally painted. BUT NOW, my government wants to give me money >back!! Wow, and in an amount that will just about cover the paint >job. Is this a great country, or what? Of course, I know that the >money comes from the millions of tax payers in this land so I want to >thank everyone on the Spridget list for doing your part to fund my >hobby. I may even have enough money left over to buy one of those >fancy W E S L A K E rocker covers with all the spaces in the name!! > >At 01:36 PM 1/21/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >>The new engine in my Sprite cost about the same as a DIY kitchen and >>bathroom for my house but at the present time, owing to shortage of >>funds I just >>have the new Sprite engine. Did I mention it has a W E S L A K E >>rocker cover? > >Tim Collins > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 12:08:10 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:08:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Rationalization In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2dtjes@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Well ... thanks anyway, but I don't think I paid any US tax recently. Aren't the spaces to allow for the installation of rock 'n rollers, or something like that? >From: "Timothy H. Collins" > >BUT NOW, my government wants to give me money >back!! Wow, and in an amount that will just about cover the paint >job. Is this a great country, or what? Of course, I know that the >money comes from the millions of tax payers in this land so I want to >thank everyone on the Spridget list for doing your part to fund my >hobby. I may even have enough money left over to buy one of those >fancy W E S L A K E rocker covers with all the spaces in the name!! From kevin at valentinephoto.net Mon Jan 21 12:18:47 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:18:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > who are the > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who > were the > original members and old timers that are still around? Larry, Oct 17th 1997 Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct 17th 1997) The Archives go all the way back ;) Kevin V. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 12:41:38 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:41:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <005001c85c5c$160a0080$6401a8c0@personal> References: <721903.17059.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com><47935CF4.5040504@comcast.net> <205cef430801210940r5f39e657w3fbbabfbb7b433c@mail.gmail.com> <005001c85c5c$160a0080$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <098737AC-68BE-45FA-B05E-7DF9104AD32F@comcast.net> .. out of aluminum no less topped with burrito wrapper ink.. Lester On Jan 21, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Jack Laird wrote: > Frank don't need no darn titles. He makes them as well. LOL > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Frank Clarici" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Today's Auction > > >> Frank were you able to get titles? >> Linda >> >> 62 California Sprite "PInky" >> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner >> >> On Jan 20, 2008 9:38 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: >> >>> stoney bennett wrote: >>>> What kind of auction was this? and Where??!! >>> >>> http://www.alderferauction.com/contents/upcomingdetails.aspx? >>> EventId=967 >>> >>> -- >>> Frank Clarici >>> Toms River, NJ >>> _______________________________________________ From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 21 12:56:11 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:56:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] where Frank got his start Message-ID: <019a01c85c67$ae338ce0$0a9aa6a0$@com> At the Trabant factory. http://tinyurl.com/2rtrd7 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 21 12:55:29 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:55:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <06d501c85c67$936955c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Duh, didn't think to check back in the archives. I see there are quite a few familiar names from the first few days who are still here. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > who are the > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who > were the > original members and old timers that are still around? Larry, Oct 17th 1997 Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct 17th 1997) The Archives go all the way back ;) Kevin V. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 13:09:06 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:09:06 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: Has to be a British citizen. In a message dated 21/01/2008 19:04:16 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: shouldn't Frank get knighted From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 13:09:46 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:09:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] where Frank got his start References: <019a01c85c67$ae338ce0$0a9aa6a0$@com> Message-ID: <00b601c85c69$91e7ace0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > At the Trabant factory. > http://tinyurl.com/2rtrd7 Fettling at its finest! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 13:10:22 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:10:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: > Oct 17th 1997 Wow! I originally signed on in October or November of '97. At the time, I assumed the list had been around for years. BZ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 13:10:29 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:10:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frank wouldn't put up with the taxes... On Jan 21, 2008 2:09 PM, wrote: > Has to be a British citizen. > > In a message dated 21/01/2008 19:04:16 GMT Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > shouldn't Frank > get knighted > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 13:11:25 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:11:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: To be honest I'm too young - I was only around in time for Slade and never heard of Zappa till I joined the list. In a message dated 21/01/2008 18:45:56 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: know that you know better being a Brit! It sounds even better than Petula Clark! I do like her song too, though. D O W N T O N 995 From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 13:12:17 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:12:17 EST Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info Message-ID: Is Montana Bob -Stop the Madness - still on the list? Enquiring minds. In a message dated 21/01/2008 20:10:36 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Wow! I originally signed on in October or November of '97. At the time, I assumed the list had been around for years. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 13:14:59 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:14:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] where Frank got his start In-Reply-To: <019a01c85c67$ae338ce0$0a9aa6a0$@com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure they did things the same way at Abingdon. > At the Trabant factory. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2rtrd7 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 21 13:18:45 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:18:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: I've been here since I got my '65 Sprite; searched the web; found Jeff Boatright's '65 ( http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~jboatri/ sprite/sprite.html ); I think I asked him about parts availabliity before I agreed to buy the car; and he recommended the list. I think that would have been about 10 years ago. Robert D. Okay, I searched the archives ... my first post was 17 Jul 1998 and I admitted to lurking for approx. 2 weeks. >From: "K. Valentine" > >On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > who are the > > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who > > were the > > original members and old timers that are still around? > >Larry, > >Oct 17th 1997 > >Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post >was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct >17th 1997) > >The Archives go all the way back ;) > > >Kevin V. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 13:37:58 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:37:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: References: <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: I joined in July of 1999. I was at the Pate Swap meet, at the Texas Motor Speedway, and met a guy by the name of Shawn Tobin. He turned me onto the list On Jan 21, 2008 2:18 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > I've been here since I got my '65 Sprite; searched the web; found Jeff > Boatright's '65 ( http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~jboatri/ > sprite/sprite.html ); I think I asked him about parts availabliity before > I > agreed to buy the car; and he recommended the list. I think that would > have > been about 10 years ago. > > Robert D. > Okay, I searched the archives ... my first post was 17 Jul 1998 and I > admitted to lurking for approx. 2 weeks. > > >From: "K. Valentine" > > > >On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > who are the > > > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who > > > were the > > > original members and old timers that are still around? > > > >Larry, > > > >Oct 17th 1997 > > > >Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post > >was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct > >17th 1997) > > > >The Archives go all the way back ;) > > > > > >Kevin V. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 13:41:38 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:41:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Has to be a British citizen Only to be a British Knight. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 21 13:43:55 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:43:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Frank wouldn't put up with the taxes... Wait and see who wins the election. English taxes might seem like a bargain in a few years. From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Mon Jan 21 13:45:19 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:45:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <4868437.1200929780800.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000801c85c6e$893ddd30$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Mike, I really can't think of a better one! Mivhael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" To: "Michael Conn" ; "spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > All of the others seem to have a real life? Is that the answer that you > are looking for? > > Mike C > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Michael Conn >>Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:23 AM >>To: spridgets >>Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) >> >>List >> >>Here's an observation. >> >>As I understand it the List has a good number of members. Why is it, in >>the >>main, e-mails appear to pass only between a few of those members? >> >>Michael > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 13:51:28 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:51:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Italian - No LBC ( Humour? ) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ..it's better if you imagine Chico marx doing it.. ;-) Lester On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > A bus stops and two Italian men get on. They seat themselves, and > engage in > animated conversation. The lady sitting behind them ignores their > conversation at first, but her attention is galvanized when she > hears one of > the men say the following: > > ''Emma come first. I come. Dennis come and Dennis come again. I > come again. > Two asses, they come together again. I come again and pee twice. > Then I come > once-a-more.'' > > ''You foul-mouthed swine,'' retorted the lady indignantly. ''In > this country > we don't talk about our sex lives in public.'' > > ''Hey, coola down lady,'' said the man. ''Imma just tella my friend > howa to > spella Mississippi.'' From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 13:55:24 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:55:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] where Frank got his start In-Reply-To: <019a01c85c67$ae338ce0$0a9aa6a0$@com> References: <019a01c85c67$ae338ce0$0a9aa6a0$@com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801211255v3ca4846by93e8f2432e801ab9@mail.gmail.com> Ah!! Old World craftsmanship!! On Jan 21, 2008 1:56 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > At the Trabant factory. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2rtrd7 > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jan 21 09:01:52 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:01:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> Larry, The date was Oct 17th 1997. Frank was the primary mover that convinced MJB to create the Spridgets list and I was about number 8 or 10 on the list. I think the first days postings are missing from the archives. Nory was right there as well. I am not sure how many others are still here. The Really Real, Real Larry Quoting Larry Daniels : > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Duquette" > To: ; > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) > > > And, the published numbers are: > ( drum roll please ... ) > 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: > > ================================= > > As long as we are on the subject of list membership, who are the > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who were the > original members and old timers that are still around? > > LAD > (Enjoying the holiday away from the office, but working at home.) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 21 13:55:52 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:55:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: <12098871.1200948952308.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> "wins the election" ?? Doesn't make any difference who "wins the election". We end up the losers no matter who is in there. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Billy Zoom >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 3:43 PM >To: Brad Fornal , Weslake1330 at aol.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Today's Auction > >> Frank wouldn't put up with the taxes... >Wait and see who wins the election. English taxes might seem like a bargain >in a few years. From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jan 21 15:10:13 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:10:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <014201c85c46$46718510$d3548f30$@com> Message-ID: <004001c85c7a$66b40b20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> OK. Now, I have to confess that I've never weighed the stock wheels. However, I'm going to guess (not having hefted one for at least several months) around 15#.....and the wire wheels are a few pounds more. ......But, what do Moss' Panasports, and Minators weigh? Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:57 AM To: 'Mike/Donna Carpenter'; 'Brashear,Jack,N'; 'Bud Osbourne'; 'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net' Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Minilite magnesium (or American Racing Silverstones) wheels weigh 7 to 8 lbs a piece. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jan 21 09:07:33 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:07:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080121100733.p02mi1w9s0sc4o4g@webmail.opentransfer.com> Yes Quoting Weslake1330 at aol.com: > Is Montana Bob -Stop the Madness - still on the list? Enquiring minds. > > In a message dated 21/01/2008 20:10:36 GMT Standard Time, > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > Wow! I originally signed on in October or November of '97. At the time, I > assumed the list had been around for years. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 14:02:31 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:02:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <12098871.1200948952308.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <12098871.1200948952308.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801211302v1154d47dqe9835542c064d221@mail.gmail.com> Sad but true, Jay. Sad but true. On Jan 21, 2008 2:55 PM, wrote: > "wins the election" ?? > > Doesn't make any difference who "wins the election". We end up the losers > no matter who is in there. > > jay fishbein > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dmeadow at juno.com Mon Jan 21 14:06:27 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:06:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <20080121.150628.3892.0.dmeadow@juno.com> IIRC, the Minators weigh 11 or 12 pounds. The Panasport specs are available on the web. On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:10:13 -0500 "Bud Osbourne" writes: > OK. Now, I have to confess that I've never weighed the stock > wheels. > However, I'm going to guess (not having hefted one for at least > several > months) around 15#.....and the wire wheels are a few pounds more. > ......But, what do Moss' Panasports, and Minators weigh? > Thanks. > Bud Osbourne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com] > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:57 AM > To: 'Mike/Donna Carpenter'; 'Brashear,Jack,N'; 'Bud Osbourne'; > 'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net' > Subject: RE: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' > > Minilite magnesium (or American Racing Silverstones) wheels weigh 7 > to 8 > lbs > a piece. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Jan 21 14:11:02 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:11:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <003b01c85c72$20b63ba0$6501a8c0@refisk> I had been subscribed to the big Healey list for several years when MJB created the Spridget list. On the big Healey list we had to put up with a lot of "Sprites aren't really Austin-Healeys" type crap from the big Healey owners. To add insult to injury (and boy did he!) our Ed was also a member of that list. :-) I jumped ship to this list the minute I heard about it and haven't been back to the big Healey list since. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy, Ph.D." To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info > Larry, > > The date was Oct 17th 1997. Frank was the primary mover ........... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 14:11:22 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:11:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Memorable Spridget Stories Message-ID: <00ee01c85c72$2d30d020$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Now that the calendar is done and I am no longer the newsletter editor for the Windy City Miata Club, the idea of putting together a booklet of Spridget stories has captured my fancy. I think it could be an item of interest for many of us. Write up your tale of your favorite Spridget memory, a tribute to some fellow Spridgeteer, a memorable drive, a beloved Spridget, some Saab story, etc. If you would like to write something up and email it to spridget.calendar at gmail .com along with a picture or two or three or..., that would be wonderful. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Jan 21 14:20:44 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:20:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <20080121.150628.3892.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <000901c85c73$7eddf910$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Sounds about right. I've never had the tires off my Minators but my ARE Libre's are about 11 lbs. For grins I weighed a spare Rostyle mounted with a 145-13 tire, 27 lbs!! Hey Bud, if you want some lightly used Minators mine will be available probably come spring. I have some work to do on my Libre's yet but they will be replacing the Minators. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com IIRC, the Minators weigh 11 or 12 pounds. The Panasport specs are available on the web. > OK. Now, I have to confess that I've never weighed the stock > wheels. > However, I'm going to guess (not having hefted one for at least > several > months) around 15#.....and the wire wheels are a few pounds more. > ......But, what do Moss' Panasports, and Minators weigh? > Thanks. > Bud Osbourne > > > > Minilite magnesium (or American Racing Silverstones) wheels weigh 7 > to 8 > lbs > a piece. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 9:39 AM From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 21 14:38:44 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:38:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <4794A064.18437.1517836@dmg.bossig.com> Most interesting... Does anyone know the wieght of factory wire wheels... painted not chromed!! With tires ON!! - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 14:47:55 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:47:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <002e01c85c51$87eb24a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <278771.87852.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Bud, The 13X5 Minators weigh in at exactly 12lbs and the 13X5.5 at 13lbs. As I remember the race only Panasports were about 7lbs... In racing applications you want the lightest wheel because of 1. unsprung weight and 2. Think of the wheel/tire combo as large flywheels. Your car will stop a lot quicker with the lighter wheels......Same holds true with a light engine flywheel when using the engine compression(down shifting) as a braking force... --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > Mike, > You may be the guy who could answer this question > for me: While I'm > pretty familiar with the "real" Minilites, and > Revolutions (I have a set > on my future vintage racing Midget); I'm wondering > what the weight > difference between Panasports and Minators is. I > suspect that > Panasports may not be very much lighter than the > Minators, since they're > more for "street"/"show" than the Minilites & > Revolutions. > That having been said, I should state that light > weight is not my > primary reason for considering the Minators. I know > that the Panasports > are of very high quality (and I know lots of guys > who run them on their > "street" cars), but, I'm suspicious that the current > price is somewhat > based upon "name recognition". > Thanks. > Bud > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 21 14:53:57 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:53:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: <4794A064.18437.1517836@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4794A064.18437.1517836@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080121155328.0391a8f8@nosimport.com> At 03:38 PM 1/21/2008, Dave G. wrote: >Most interesting... >Does anyone know the wieght of factory wire wheels... painted not >chromed!! With tires ON!! > >- >Dave G, KK7SS >'65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA ============================== With or without air? ED From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 21 15:01:32 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:01:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080121155328.0391a8f8@nosimport.com> References: <4794A064.18437.1517836@dmg.bossig.com>, <7.0.1.0.2.20080121155328.0391a8f8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4794A5BC.30798.1665575@dmg.bossig.com> Hmmmm, How about the weight with with NEW air and the weight with some of that NOS Air that Frank now has ?? Dave G. On 21 Jan 2008 at 15:53, Peter C wrote: >> At 03:38 PM 1/21/2008, Dave G. wrote: >> >Most interesting... >> >Does anyone know the wieght of factory wire wheels... painted not >> >chromed!! With tires ON!! >> ============================== >> With or without air? >> >> ED From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 21 15:04:51 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:04:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <15764738.1200953091487.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> What exact tire are you referring to? Tires have different weights. But the more important point here is that all of this doesn't make a damn bit of difference on a street car. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >At 03:38 PM 1/21/2008, Dave G. wrote: > >>Most interesting... >>Does anyone know the wieght of factory wire wheels... painted not >>chromed!! With tires ON!! From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 21 15:08:20 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:08:20 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Addition Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/2008 10:18:11 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: 216 Non-digested Members of Spridgets: 110 Digested Members of Spridgets: Hmm, and the 327CID small block Chevy was a fine engine... Coincidence? I think not! ******** I'm guessing that only in Chicago, in an election year, do 216 and 110 equal 327. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 21 15:21:52 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:21:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: <15764738.1200953091487.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <15764738.1200953091487.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4794AA80.20214.178F373@dmg.bossig.com> OK... Me bad... What I'm looking for is the difference in weight between Rostyle and knock-on Wire wheels.. I've always assumed that the wires would have to be heavier because of the spokes... At least, that's what I told my boy -- the one with the 300Z turbo!! Dave . On 21 Jan 2008 at 17:04, type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: >> What exact tire are you referring to? Tires have different weights - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 15:37:54 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:37:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Addition References: Message-ID: <045301c85c7e$434d6740$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Ya "almost" got it RBHbut it would be 643 !!! From Weslake1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 21 15:41:36 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:41:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: The real question ought to be tradional wire wheels with inner tubes or MWS wire wheels that don't need innner tubes. Of course MWS also do a 5.5" wire as well. W E S L A K E 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2008 21:38:53 GMT Standard Time, dmg at bossig.com writes: Most interesting... Does anyone know the wieght of factory wire wheels... painted not chromed!! With tires ON!! - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dmg at bossig.com Mon Jan 21 15:56:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:56:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4794B2A7.22459.198CC19@dmg.bossig.com> I've got the traditional (factory) wire wheels with inner tubes... Tires are 155/80/13 Anyone care to get an estimate of what one of them weighs?? The air was fresh Pacific NW last September.... Dave . On 21 Jan 2008 at 17:41, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote: >> The real question ought to be tradional wire wheels with inner tubes >> or MWS wire wheels that don't need innner tubes. Of course MWS also >> do a 5.5" wire as well. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 21 16:07:35 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:07:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... References: <15764738.1200953091487.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4794AA80.20214.178F373@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <011401c85c82$696e7690$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > What I'm looking for is the difference in weight between Rostyle and > knock-on Wire > wheels.. > I've always assumed that the wires would have to be heavier because of the > spokes... > At least, that's what I told my boy -- the one with the 300Z turbo!! However, even that is not REALLY what you are after. Problem is that the wire wheels also suffer from more weight in the parts mounted to the car. The splines on the hubs contribute additional unsprung weight beyond that of the disk wheel mounting, even if you take the shorter axle housings into account. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Jan 21 16:08:02 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:08:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: <29661625.1200956886504.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I have decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that my Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Mon Jan 21 16:24:10 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:24:10 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <29661625.1200956886504.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> Message-ID: <000001c85c84$baa89cf0$0601a8c0@Laptop> Hi Kent So does my Sprite! I thought they were rare! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sent: 21 January 2008 23:08 To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I have decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that my Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 09:39 From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 21 16:27:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:27:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Patents Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080121172331.034fd420@mailbag.com> All this talk of V A L V E C O V E R S had me go and search on one of the patent numbers on a old M O R R I S valve cover I had laying about. It seems US patent number 249.2219 is from Dec 27,1949 and describes the timing chain tensioner device on the camshaft..... the 2 rubber rings, that are now viewed to be superfluous at best, and problematic at worst. Cool, eh? Have a good night, I'm going to go throw rocks. Peter C. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 16:28:58 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:28:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: <29661625.1200956886504.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> References: <29661625.1200956886504.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> Message-ID: GREAT idea!!! I've changed my sig line as well........ btw, I still have about a half bottle of said elixir, should anyone in Texas wanna visit and drink. On Jan 21, 2008 5:08 PM, wrote: > With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I have > decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that my > Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? > > Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Mon Jan 21 16:30:25 2008 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:30:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Signing off Message-ID: I sold my bug-eye on e-bay last night, as I was unable to find a local buyer willing to pay what it was worth. The car is going to central PA - ironically the same place it came from in 2006. So I'll be signing off from this list (if I can figure out how) and devoting my time to putting the Tiger into the same kind of shape as I did for the Sprite. But not before thanking this list for making the restoration possible. You have been a great help and your experience has saved me from making numerous expensive mistakes. I've also made some pretty good friends along the journey. Thanks again. One of the last times I'll be using this signature. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jan 21 17:43:30 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:43:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006c01c85c8f$cf4455e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> MWS? Whut dat mean? I replaced the "wires" on my '72 Midget, last fall, with Daytons (painted, of course). Beautiful wheels, and of very high quality. The only wire wheel alternate, here in the States, seems to the Dunlops of India version. I've been hearing that quality control, on the D of I units, is somewhat questionable. BTW, I'm running Michelin inner tubes, and Kumho Power Stars on them, and have been very happy with them. One thing that is sure to muddy the waters is that much of the extra weight of the wire wheels is carried very close to the hub, where is less of a factor in the "flywheel" effect, although in the "unsprung weight" department, every ounce counts. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:42 PM To: dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... The real question ought to be tradional wire wheels with inner tubes or MWS wire wheels that don't need innner tubes. Of course MWS also do a 5.5" wire as well. W E S L A K E 1330 From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Mon Jan 21 16:39:26 2008 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:39:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: Message-ID: <006201c85c86$dc7e0ac0$0210a8c0@YOURD28EB17757> No you don't! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: ; ; Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Today's Auction >> Has to be a British citizen > Only to be a British Knight. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 21 16:48:56 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:48:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... References: <006c01c85c8f$cf4455e0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <069701c85c88$2ff0d880$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> UJ Co. = Motor Wheel Service, Bud. Visit them below. http://www.mwsint.com/ <> That, and has been for a goodly # of years, now a MYTH!! Just did a set on a Big Healey and ther where checked for true PRIOR to tire mounting and where perfect!! Spokes are now SS even. I know for a fact that they ARE checked before being shipped to Moss. Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 17:05:33 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:05:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <634953.39764.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Wow! I originally signed on in October or November > of '97. At the time, I > assumed the list had been around for years. > BZ Me too. I had just gotten my Bugeye and Frank emailed me offlist on the Healey list and invited me to Spridgets. How many of you remember the reason for Montana Bob's tantrum in 1999? The FIRST Gift Sprite that never materialized that youse were gonna disassemble and put in the garage of the new house I was buying? (My home, still). I found out about it by accident after meeting Bob Brown for breakfast. That was the very coolest for me. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 17:06:08 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:06:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank and Buster already had a few British nights............. Billy Zoom wrote: > Has to be a British citizen Only to be a British Knight. You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jan 21 17:39:32 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:39:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> Lord, Lrd, Guess I been here since 97 as well. Seems not so long. So whatever happened to Ulix? Patton? Nory (still have his web site linked)? Trevor Boicey? Adrian Barnes? GMari? Mike Gigante? Gerard Chateauvieux? Toby Atwater??? And then there was that "lady" from somewhere down south. She hadn't a Spridget, but she sure wanted to be part of it all.Cannot remember her name. Where'd she get to?? Whew. We been here a while. chuck From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jan 21 17:43:01 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:43:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <005801c85c8f$be75a980$53997e4c@HP> I was #13 ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info > On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> who are the >> co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who >> were the >> original members and old timers that are still around? > > Larry, > > Oct 17th 1997 > > Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post > was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct > 17th 1997) > > The Archives go all the way back ;) > > > Kevin V. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jan 21 17:43:19 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:43:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <005b01c85c8f$c94a7d40$53997e4c@HP> I was #13 ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Valentine" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info > On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> who are the >> co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who >> were the >> original members and old timers that are still around? > > Larry, > > Oct 17th 1997 > > Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post > was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct > 17th 1997) From gmeyer01 at snet.net Mon Jan 21 18:07:23 2008 From: gmeyer01 at snet.net (The Mayers) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:07:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in Newport News? Message-ID: <44584.20670.qm@web83807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I will be in Newport News, VA this Thursday for business and was wondering if there are any listers in the area that would like to meet for a beer and talk Spridgets. I have a 60 BE and a couple of RB MGBs. Gary in CT From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jan 21 18:50:23 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:50:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> Message-ID: <47954BDF.4030206@verizon.net> Yes! Bree!! Did she ever have a Spridget?? Where'd she go?? Brad Fornal wrote: > You mean Bobbie Kimmelshue, who logged in orginally as Bree, so that > we wouldn't know who she was. She is supposed to be in Fort Worth now, > but Martha and I see her less now, then when she lived down Houston way. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 18:50:14 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:50:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47954BDF.4030206@verizon.net> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <47954BDF.4030206@verizon.net> Message-ID: No Spridget, and living in Fort Worth On Jan 21, 2008 7:50 PM, chuck wrote: > Yes! Bree!! Did she ever have a Spridget?? Where'd she go?? > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > You mean Bobbie Kimmelshue, who logged in orginally as Bree, so that > > we wouldn't know who she was. She is supposed to be in Fort Worth now, > > but Martha and I see her less now, then when she lived down Houston way. > > > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 21 19:25:23 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:25:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) References: <003301c85c4b$2398d3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><060201c85c4e$611a7ef0$6401a8c0@Larry> <005301c85c51$31ff7230$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <0a2c01c85c9e$0b240fc0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Mostly true David, But the one that was in my '60 Camino Rev'ed quite easily and 10 grand came up VERY quickly!! The receipts that came with her showed bored +.60, New stroker rods, hi comp pistons, roller rockers & 3/4 cam, ENTIRE rotating mass (-clutch disc) balanced and was painted (beautifully!!) Chevy Orange. The receipts did NOT say it was a Pony block tho & the ID tag showed matching numbers from Build Sheet & Title!!! Now as to how I found out?!?!? Thru a timing chain about 40 thou miles later. Got the new one on it on and tried to fire up. Nada. Re-checked EVERYTHING a couple times. Had 3 diff gents that were pro wrenches to check my work which they said was correct!?!?!?!? Looked at diff shop manuals NUMEROUS times/editions/etc.! All side I had done CORRECTLY. Lived in Springpatch (non-existent home where our Gov. SHOULD be) and had to do a Service call down in Fairbury (100 miles south). Chatting with the shop's wrench I spotted the entire MotorWorks set and for grins pulled GMC volume out and in JUST leafing thru found the Pony 326. It is TIMED 180 degrees diff from the Chevy 327!! Got home changed the chain "location" and Veroom!!!!! My 3 buddies ALL "slapped their foreheads with a DOH!!!" !! Freaky!! Ed From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jan 21 19:39:41 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:39:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor Message-ID: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> With all this talk about the origins of "The List" and all of the musically inclined types now on "The List" I thought maybe someone might like to record this golden oldie written specifically for "The List" and forgotten about until today ;-) http://www.ado13.com/articles/bugeyedreams.html Larry Miller From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 21 20:01:42 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:01:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <668014.64026.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Brad Fornal wrote: > You mean Bobbie Kimmelshue, who logged in > orginally as Bree, so that > we wouldn't know who she was. I'll fess. I remember Bree!! but I have no idea who Bobbie Kimmelshue is, or why we would know her. Tell. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Jan 21 20:13:29 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:13:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> Message-ID: <005301c85ca4$c2fc84a0$6401a8c0@personal> Miss Agatha dreams of running down the road no more. She now has 350 miles since her restoration and recovery from the old barn. Now she just smiles and smiles and smiles. Course I smile a bit as well. Nice song. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Spridget" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:39 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor > With all this talk about the origins of "The List" and all of the > musically > inclined types now on "The List" I thought maybe someone might like to > record this golden oldie written specifically for "The List" and forgotten > about until today ;-) > > http://www.ado13.com/articles/bugeyedreams.html > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM From Mjsprite at aol.com Mon Jan 21 20:34:51 2008 From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:34:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: I've never really understood the effects of 'sprung' vs. 'unsrpung' weight. Is there a magic ratio which one should aspire to achieve? How do changes effect car handling? Perhaps an engineering type could elucidate me and others. Thanks, Mike '69 Sprite - Bilbo **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 20:48:54 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:48:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801211948l71633642t1c1804ef46b1bee4@mail.gmail.com> I came along around 1999. Frank's been around since before me. A few others, too, are still around. Some guys came and went. Some linger. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 20:52:26 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:52:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <668014.64026.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <668014.64026.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801211952v54b43a4fqb214a892d0697e3c@mail.gmail.com> I seem to remember Bree as being the most excited about Spridgets person who didn't own one. And, dare I mention the name? Montana Bob? I still think Frank may have payed a personal visit to Montana Bob and shut him up for good. From nory1 at adelphia.net Mon Jan 21 20:55:12 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> Message-ID: Nory's still here -- a bit quiet though (I've been busy). BTW, sorry the website hasn't been updated in so long (like I said - been busy). -Nory On Jan 21, 2008, at 7:39 PM, chuck wrote: > Lord, Lrd, Guess I been here since 97 as well. Seems not so long. > > So whatever happened to Ulix? Patton? Nory (still have his web site > linked)? > Trevor Boicey? Adrian Barnes? GMari? Mike Gigante? Gerard > Chateauvieux? > Toby Atwater??? From nory1 at adelphia.net Mon Jan 21 21:00:28 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:00:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <1B907F00-FC54-4A2F-AB6E-A8234D1F669C@adelphia.net> I was here pretty early on too -Nory On Jan 21, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Larry Macy, Ph.D. wrote: > Larry, > > The date was Oct 17th 1997. Frank was the primary mover that convinced > MJB to create the Spridgets list and I was about number 8 or 10 on the > list. I think the first days postings are missing from the archives. > Nory was right there as well. I am not sure how many others are still > here. > > The Really Real, Real Larry From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 21 21:03:24 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:03:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Hi chuck !! <> Don't know. << Patton?>> Sold his Spriteget and moved bit still has his Longbridge 100-6 Big Healey getting close to finishing a full ground-up. << Nory (still have his web site linked)?>> SHE is still here and active on my "Joke Mailing List". <> Don't know. << Adrian Barnes?>> Don't know. << GMari?>> He is also still here just not very active. I suspect he is digested. Also still with Big Healeys as he just made an announcement ref the Concours Guidelines for them which will be up on my site in a day or two (app to order either Big or Little ones). << Mike Gigante?>> Don't know. Didn't hesell his car(s) anybody?? << Gerard Chateauvieux?>> He is still here and simi active. Alsoon the yahoo Bugeye List. <> Don't know but haven't heard from him in quite awhile. And speaking of "still here", found 1st ref of me 7/7/98 and I know I was on months before that except for a slight "vacation"!! AND the post refs the female in PA that got me my "vacation"!! Ed From nory1 at adelphia.net Mon Jan 21 21:10:39 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:10:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: What happened to the two Amy's? Wasn't one a tattoo artist? From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jan 21 21:19:20 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:19:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <64f0a10fa4afc58a33f4a.20080121201920.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> First submission I can find in the archives for myself is in September of 1998. Has it really been almost 10 years?!? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 > > And speaking of "still here", found 1st ref of me 7/7/98 > Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 21 21:18:42 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:18:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <47956EA2.6050803@comcast.net> Nory wrote: > What happened to the two Amy's? Wasn't one a tattoo artist? I don't know what happened to Amy from PA (the tattoo artist) But Amy Turner from TN has moved to Nevada and is involved in other things. She still has her Sprite and her husband has a big Healey now. Ulix moved to Germany -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jan 21 21:28:57 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:28:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net><00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <010101c85caf$4e68c3a0$53997e4c@HP> The tattoo artist got Ed his first vacation from the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nory" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Today's Auction > What happened to the two Amy's? Wasn't one a tattoo artist? > _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 21 21:34:30 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:34:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net><00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> <47956EA2.6050803@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01f701c85cb0$148ddca0$6401a8c0@actualshop> I hear from Amy T. every Blue Moon (does everybody have her Frogeye Cursors???? On my site in Spridgets) Frank, wasn;t Ulix moving BACK to Germany?? From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 21 21:41:31 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:41:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net><00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> <010101c85caf$4e68c3a0$53997e4c@HP> Message-ID: <023d01c85cb1$0f73e740$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Yep, BUT only one Larry! And she got all those parts at my COST and took over SIX months to pay me!! From Mjsprite at aol.com Mon Jan 21 21:47:56 2008 From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:47:56 EST Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info Message-ID: I've been here since the late 90's. I remember when Puddlejumper was new. I contribute little, but learn constantly. Mike **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Jan 21 21:49:28 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:49:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <64f0a10fa4afc58a33f4a.20080121201920.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <001401c85cb2$2d77d020$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Hey Mike same here! It's amazing how time flies. Gerard Chateauvieux clued me in to this list. BTW he's still around. He checks in occasionally but is mostly on the Yahoo Bugeye list. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com First submission I can find in the archives for myself is in September of 1998. Has it really been almost 10 years?!? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 9:39 AM From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jan 21 23:02:36 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:02:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008e01c85cbc$636c2d20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Mike, Perhaps the simplest way to look at it is to think about what happens when your suspension reacts to a bump in the road: It is pushed upward, against the resistance of the spring, and at a rate (the rate of deflection) controlled by the shock absorber (yes, the spring rate has a lot to do with the rate of deflection, too). However, the weight of the wheel, tire, hub, brake assembly, and the control arm (or the axle assembly, too) has an upward momentum, once it has been started on its upward motion by the bump. All of the parts that combine in sustaining that upward momentum are considered to be un-sprung weight. The less unsprung weight your suspension has to deal with, the more efficiently/quickly it can react to irregularities in the pavement, and keep the tires in firm contact with the road. When shock absorbers become sufficiently worn (or have the wrong settings), the tires will loose contact with the pavement, on bumps. The greater the unsprung weight, the harder the shock absorbers, control arms, and bushings have to work to keep the tire in firm contact with the pavement. Now, obviously, there is a lot more to it than that. However, that should get your mind up to speed, and allow it to fill in some of the blanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Mjsprite at aol.com [mailto:Mjsprite at aol.com] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:35 PM To: abcoz at hky.com; Weslake1330 at aol.com; dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... I've never really understood the effects of 'sprung' vs. 'unsrpung' weight. Is there a magic ratio which one should aspire to achieve? How do changes effect car handling? Perhaps an engineering type could elucidate me and others. Thanks, Mike '69 Sprite - Bilbo From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jan 21 22:19:22 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:19:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <47957CDA.8000807@wi.net> Larry Macy, Ph.D. wrote: > Larry, > > The date was Oct 17th 1997. Frank was the primary mover that convinced > MJB to create the Spridgets list and I was about number 8 or 10 on the > list. I think the first days postings are missing from the archives. > Nory was right there as well. I am not sure how many others are still > here. > > The Really Real, Real Larry > > > Yup, there all there! My first post was: > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:34:12 -0500 > From: Dave Woerpel As I perused those early posts, I sadly saw the names of those who are no longer with us and I remember them fondly. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 22:28:41 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:28:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor In-Reply-To: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> Pretty cute, Larry!! Is there music or it?? It would be neat to have a recording of this to play at Lake o the Ozarks during the banquet! Cheers!! Jim On 1/21/08, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > With all this talk about the origins of "The List" and all of the > musically > inclined types now on "The List" I thought maybe someone might like to > record this golden oldie written specifically for "The List" and forgotten > about until today ;-) > > http://www.ado13.com/articles/bugeyedreams.html > > Larry Miller From refisk at chartermi.net Mon Jan 21 22:46:52 2008 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:46:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... References: <008e01c85cbc$636c2d20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <010001c85cba$30845330$6501a8c0@refisk> Mike, Here is another way to visual the difference between sprung vs. unsprung weight - think of your body as "sprung" weight (supported by your legs and feet) and think of your legs and feet as "unsprung" weight. Go put on 3 or 4 pairs of heavy pants, 3 pairs of socks, and the heaviest boots you own. Fill the boots with water. Now go run up and down some stairs about ten times, then go run around the block a couple of times. It's a lot of work to move your legs and feet with all that extra weight. Now take all those pants, socks, and boots off and switch to a pair of running shorts and lightweight running shoes. Go do those same exercises. See the difference? On a car everything above the spring is sprung weight. Everything below the spring is unsprung weight. By reducing the unsprung weight all of your suspension components can do their job much more quickly and efficiently, with less wear and tear on the joints. Hope this helps, Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Mjsprite at aol.com [mailto:Mjsprite at aol.com] > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:35 PM > To: abcoz at hky.com; Weslake1330 at aol.com; dmg at bossig.com; > spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... > > I've never really understood the effects of 'sprung' vs. 'unsrpung' > weight..........(snip)......... > Thanks, > Mike > > '69 Sprite - Bilbo From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 23:39:26 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:39:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801212239j6eb192b0x2957fd2c264c1ce4@mail.gmail.com> Jim, I can hear you on this one.... Herb From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 22 00:00:50 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:00:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: <010001c85cba$30845330$6501a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <517688.47569.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Go put on 3 or 4 pairs of heavy pants, 3 pairs of > socks, and the heaviest > boots you own. Fill the boots with water. Now go > run up and down some > stairs about ten times, Try to turn quickly, too. All this "it doesn't matter on a street car" stuff....racing only improves the breed if you let it. I christened my new garage space tonight with a little real work (after hanging the new neon AH Sprite clock, mindful of the space SUPPOSED to be filled with a poster SOMEONE on the list was gonna send) and changed the wheel bearings on the street Bugeye. It went well, the black and white checkered flag floor is reasonably intact, so I poked around some more. It;s been at least six years since I did anything ut drive the car. I did go through the suspension a few years ago (ok, 9 years ago. Remember the Curly Light beer, Peter?). The uprated stuff I used on there looked great, the stock stuff was worn. Peter's Italian wheel cyliners look great. Lockheed F-16 A286 fasteners looked stunning, Ace Hardware grade 5 bolts looked like, well, roll pins. It was interesting to see wear patterns on things rather than the usual shrapnel inside the race Sprite. Brake pads that didn't look like they were pulled from a vat of nuclear waste and set to a grinding wheel. No need to update to Kevlar there, and those were the front drums. What to make of this? I don't know - I had to work while watching football yesterday, so I hit the leftover beer and Pinot Grigio kinda hard toward the end there as I was cleaning tools. I think the message is better parts wear better and make the car's performance a lot more fun and predictable. There really isn't much reason to consciously use crap parts. The car has bone stock wheels BTW. We all have our weaknesses. Night Johnboy, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 00:05:52 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:05:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Addition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801212305h41017a72pb4a2e4500a4a19ab@mail.gmail.com> Pontiac had a "326". Herb From millerls at ado13.com Tue Jan 22 00:12:19 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:12:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016e01c85cc6$20fcaf50$53997e4c@HP> For those of you too young to remember, "Little GTO" by Ronnie and the Daytona's can be played here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44kg0IENTPU Larry Miller From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 01:17:29 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:17:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <001401c85cb2$2d77d020$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <64f0a10fa4afc58a33f4a.20080121201920.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <001401c85cb2$2d77d020$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <441250190801220017v70e79483i85e1e8144dbbb991@mail.gmail.com> I had to take a peak and I see that my first post was on Thu, 02 Jul 1998, it must have been a couple of weeks after I ran into Frank on a rest stop on Rt. 287. -g On 1/21/08, Herby wrote: > > Hey Mike same here! It's amazing how time flies. Gerard Chateauvieux clued > me in to this list. BTW he's still around. He checks in occasionally but > is > mostly on the Yahoo Bugeye list. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > > First submission I can find in the archives for myself is in September of > 1998. Has it really been almost 10 years?!? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 > 9:39 AM > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 22 01:31:56 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:31:56 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: It's already been mentioned.... .........installing lighter wheels is akin to installing a lightened flywheel..... faster acceleration, Mike. If you have any sensitivity at all, you'll notice the difference immediately (along with the more "spritely" handling). Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Tue Jan 22 01:35:40 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:35:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry><20080121100152.k70rpnqggo000sow@webmail.opentransfer.com> <003b01c85c72$20b63ba0$6501a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <03b201c85cd1$c7a7ead0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Trust me, Rick: <> hasn't changed mush except for the "addition" of "Friday Funnies" (and if you DO post a "funny" om a day other than Fri., the guys DO get "upset"!!! LOL Me From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Tue Jan 22 04:14:11 2008 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:14:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] List Info In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000501c85ce7$ea8b2f10$6600a8c0@FAMILY> Wow! Ulix. The Amy's. Ed's vacations from the List! (Cats - or is that wheelchocks?, guns, ...) What great memories! And there are still a lot of people around now who were active in the beginning. I've been around since the early days of the List, although I'm mostly a Lurker these days and receive the Digest. (And I lurk on the Bugeye Yahoo List, too.) Life has delayed the restoration of my Bugeye, but I plan to have it on the road for the 50th! I've had the great pleasure of putting faces to many names on this List at the Sprite birthday parties and can attest first-hand to Frank's generosity. I encourage everyone to get to at least one of the celebrations this summer! Geoff Muttart Nova Scotia, Canada 2 Bugeyes - one was my first car (in 1988) and neither are currently on the road but I'll be damned if there's not one on the road for the 50th! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 8:23 PM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 04:32:20 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:32:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) In-Reply-To: <634953.39764.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <634953.39764.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm up for disassembling an LBC in Ron's garage. Let's see what we can find there! ;) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Wow! I originally signed on in October or November > of '97. At the time, I > assumed the list had been around for years. > BZ Me too. I had just gotten my Bugeye and Frank emailed me offlist on the Healey list and invited me to Spridgets. How many of you remember the reason for Montana Bob's tantrum in 1999? The FIRST Gift Sprite that never materialized that youse were gonna disassemble and put in the garage of the new house I was buying? (My home, still). I found out about it by accident after meeting Bob Brown for breakfast. That was the very coolest for me. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jan 22 04:41:04 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:41:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <030001c85ceb$adaf83d0$090e8b70$@com> I've been trying to reach Mike Gigante for over a year. Last I checked, he was still employed by SGI, but I can't seem to find him. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 04:41:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:41:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> Message-ID: Trevor still has his website up, but I'm not sure what he has in the way of Brit iron. He had bought a California e-type and an older Miata. http://www.boicey.com/ -----Original Message----- Lord, Lrd, Guess I been here since 97 as well. Seems not so long. So whatever happened to Ulix? Patton? Nory (still have his web site linked)? Trevor Boicey? Adrian Barnes? GMari? Mike Gigante? Gerard Chateauvieux? Toby Atwater??? And then there was that "lady" from somewhere down south. She hadn't a Spridget, but she sure wanted to be part of it all.Cannot remember her name. Where'd she get to?? Whew. We been here a while. chuck From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 04:43:47 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: OMG! _____ From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com [mailto:uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com] Frank and Buster already had a few British nights............. Billy Zoom wrote: > Has to be a British citizen Only to be a British Knight. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 04:54:00 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:54:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net> <00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: I have a Fiat X1/9 now that I know next to nothing about. While browsing the web, I ran in to Ulix. I think if you google his name, you'll find him and his x. -----Original Message----- Hi chuck !! <> Don't know. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 22 05:50:41 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:50:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <5809072.1201006241529.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> One of the easiest ways to view it is by thinking of a bicycle. The sprung weight can be thought of as the frame of the bike. Unsprung weight would be the wheels of the bicycle. The lighter the wheels are the easier and faster you can pedal the bike on a given stretch of road. The frame can be much heavier and it is not noticed on such a grand scale as when you increase the weight of the wheels because they are what is actually moving relative to the frame. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Mjsprite at aol.com >Sent: Jan 21, 2008 10:34 PM >To: abcoz at hky.com, Weslake1330 at aol.com, dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... > >I've never really understood the effects of 'sprung' vs. 'unsrpung' weight. >Is there a magic ratio which one should aspire to achieve? How do changes >effect car handling? Perhaps an engineering type could elucidate me and others. >Thanks, >Mike > >'69 Sprite - Bilbo > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 22 06:17:08 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:17:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction References: <257334.25487.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com><47953B44.8040301@verizon.net><00fd01c85cab$bc954000$6401a8c0@actualshop><010101c85caf$4e68c3a0$53997e4c@HP> <023d01c85cb1$0f73e740$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <015301c85cf9$19369a00$0201a8c0@midget> > <> > Yep, BUT only one Larry! > And she got all those parts at my COST and took over SIX months to pay > me!! A valuable lesson at twice the price! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 22 06:18:34 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:18:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <015f01c85cf9$4adf2810$0201a8c0@midget> > Pretty cute, Larry!! Is there music or it?? It would be neat to have a > recording of this to play at Lake o the Ozarks during the banquet! If only there were a musician or two on the List... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 07:05:33 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:05:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction Message-ID: http://www.mirafiori.com/%7Eulix/autos/index.html >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette > >I have a Fiat X1/9 now that I know next to nothing about. While >browsing >the web, I ran in to Ulix. I think if you google his name, you'll find >him >and his x. > >-----Original Message----- >Hi chuck !! > ><> >Don't know. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 07:47:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:47:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Cavity Waxing - not really any LBC content Message-ID: http://www.mirafiori.com/%7Eulix/x19/my74/phoenix19/cavitywaxingjpg.html Ulix's site. It just struck me as a bit odd that he speaks of "Waxing all cavities with compressor powered wax gun with extra long hose. Used about 7 quarts. Followed waxing guide by German X-club." I may actually look for that guide and try it. :) RD From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 08:23:41 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:23:41 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget story Message-ID: Found a spridget story online. http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mikeg/cars/james.htm From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 22 09:39:45 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:39:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00d101c85d15$65d4cb40$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> The "flywheel effect" is yet another (separate from suspension, yet very much related....."Bud, you're full of shit") effect of just one part of the unsprung weight equation. Here's something to think about: wire wheels vs. steel disc wheels. If we were to analyze the locations of the weight "masses" of steel disc vs. wire wheels, I think we might find that, because the heaviest parts of the wire wheel are closer to the center of their diameter, their "flywheel" effect is slightly less than that of a steel disc wheel of the same size. BUT, due to the heavier overall weight of a wire wheel, it's unsprung weight effect on suspension function is greater (in negative terms) than that of the steel disc wheel (talk about someone's mind being a cesspool of useless trivia....). Fortunately, for us, the most effective way to reduce unsprung weight is also the easiest to achieve.....lighter wheels. That having been said, and given the litigious nature of our society, I suspect that (for example) the aluminum wheels we see on so many new cars, today, are really not significantly lighter than the steel wheels they replace, due to manufacturer's fears of product liability issues. Just thinkin' out loud, here. But, when I swap the summer tires, on their aluminum wheels for the winter tires, on their steel wheels, I really don't detect that much difference in weight. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert E. Shlafer Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:32 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... It's already been mentioned.... .........installing lighter wheels is akin to installing a lightened flywheel..... faster acceleration, Mike. If you have any sensitivity at all, you'll notice the difference immediately (along with the more "spritely" handling). Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) _______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 22 08:43:28 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:43:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080122094252.03942fb8@nosimport.com> That's Mike Gigante whom WST was searching for. Peter C = At 09:23 AM 1/22/2008, Robert Duquette wrote: >Found a spridget story online. > >http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mikeg/cars/james.htm >_______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 22 09:56:01 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:56:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: <069701c85c88$2ff0d880$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <00d401c85d17$ad06e3c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Very interesting website. Do I understand correctly that the MWS wheels are available from stateside vendors? If so, how do they compare, price-wise, to Dunlop and Dayton? Of course, I'm all set on wire wheels for the next few years. However, when I finally get around to my BGT restoration (that I've had all of the sheet metal on hand for several years, now), I'm contemplating wire wheels for it, replacing the original Rostyle wheels. Yes, I've got the correct rear axle assemblies, and good front & rear hubs, too. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of shop at justbrits.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... <> UJ Co. = Motor Wheel Service, Bud. Visit them below. http://www.mwsint.com/ <> That, and has been for a goodly # of years, now a MYTH!! Just did a set on a Big Healey and ther where checked for true PRIOR to tire mounting and where perfect!! Spokes are now SS even. I know for a fact that they ARE checked before being shipped to Moss. Ed From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 09:37:01 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:37:01 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 8, Issue 60 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/21/2008 8:02:29 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Larry, > > Oct 17th 1997 Looks like I didn't join until 1998. Whatever happened to Mike Gigante, Healy Rick, Les Myer, or the Amys? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 09:43:05 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:43:05 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Whatever happened to... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:01:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Gerard > Chateauvieux? > Toby Atwater??? Gerard is stil on the Morris Minor list...Toby must have graduated college and is off making his first million. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 09:46:52 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:46:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Parts Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:01:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: And she got all those parts at my COST and took over SIX months to pay me!! Hey Ed, I'd buy a lot more parts from you if you'd give me the same terms. I'll even talk nasty to you baby... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 09:51:45 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:51:45 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Unsprung weight... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:01:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: See the difference? On a car everything above the spring is sprung weight. Everything below the spring is unsprung weight. By reducing the unsprung weight all of your suspension components can do their job much more quickly and efficiently, with less wear and tear on the joints. ***** So those 80's Cadillacs and Lincolns running around here with 12 inch wire wheels and a couple of wraps of electrical tape for tires should have the most efficient suspension around....? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 09:58:09 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:58:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I ALWAYS talk nasty to Ed, I never got no terms like that!!!! On Jan 22, 2008 10:46 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:01:41 AM Mountain Standard Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > > And she got all those parts at my COST and took over SIX months to pay > me!! > > > > > Hey Ed, I'd buy a lot more parts from you if you'd give me the same > terms. > I'll even talk nasty to you baby... > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 10:07:21 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:07:21 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:38:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: it must have been a couple of weeks after I ran into Frank on a rest stop on Rt. 287. **** Thats probably more than I would have admitted to on the list Bill.... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From trevorwj at insightbb.com Tue Jan 22 10:14:11 2008 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:14:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Humor In-Reply-To: <015f01c85cf9$4adf2810$0201a8c0@midget> References: <00ea01c85ca0$0af17c20$53997e4c@HP> <43840a7e0801212128t3050f198vee9d28f6c0576bd0@mail.gmail.com> <015f01c85cf9$4adf2810$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <8c1781040801220914s2d9c0a0pb7ee3c7c07219e95@mail.gmail.com> OK... how about "Little Honda" by the Beach Boys, rewritten something like this: ... Its not a big Austin Healey Just a groovy little Bugeye Sprite Its more fun than a barrel of monkeys That little car Well drive on out of the town To any old place near or far. First gear (healey, healey) its alright (faster faster) Second gear (little healey, healey) I lean right (faster faster) Third gear (healey, healey) hang on tight (faster faster) Faster its alright It climbs the hills like a Matchless Cause my Healey's built really light When I go into the turns Lean [tilt] with me and hang on tight I better turn on the lights So we can drive my Bugeye tonight On Jan 22, 2008 8:18 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > Pretty cute, Larry!! Is there music or it?? It would be neat to have a > > recording of this to play at Lake o the Ozarks during the banquet! > > If only there were a musician or two on the List... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 22 10:14:45 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:14:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... References: Message-ID: <014701c85d1a$497b9d70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Thats probably more than I would have admitted to on the list Bill.... Hey, at least it wasn't an airport restroom in Idaho... From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 22 10:47:38 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:47:38 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Cavity Waxing - not really any LBC content Message-ID: Is this more than just colonic irrigation? In a message dated 22/01/2008 14:48:22 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: It just struck me as a bit odd that he speaks of "Waxing all cavities with compressor powered wax gun with extra long hose. Used about 7 quarts. Followed waxing guide by German X-club." From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 10:47:56 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:47:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441250190801220947n7c9bc708pd3f72eaa732363a5@mail.gmail.com> Heck when you have two guys as manly as Frank and I, we don't have those worries. It was the result of coffee and a ride in a Spridget. Now I have to wonder if "Rampant" is a euphemism for "Flaming". Lord knows what goes on in the desert; it might be like the cowboy movie I heard about ..... On Jan 22, 2008 9:07 AM, wrote: > In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:38:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > it must have been a couple of weeks after I ran into Frank on a rest > stop on Rt. 287. > > > > > **** > > Thats probably more than I would have admitted to on the list Bill.... > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 10:51:19 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:51:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Cavity Waxing - not really any LBC content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Of course it's more, it also removes those unsightly hairs...... On Jan 22, 2008 11:47 AM, wrote: > Is this more than just colonic irrigation? > > In a message dated 22/01/2008 14:48:22 GMT Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > It just struck me as a bit odd that he speaks of "Waxing all > cavities with compressor powered wax gun with extra long hose. Used about > 7 > quarts. Followed waxing guide by German X-club." > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 22 10:49:34 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:49:34 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: This is a bike with suspension?? In a message dated 22/01/2008 12:51:02 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: sprung weight can be thought of as the frame of the bike. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 10:52:07 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:52:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... In-Reply-To: <441250190801220947n7c9bc708pd3f72eaa732363a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190801220947n7c9bc708pd3f72eaa732363a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801220952o54102c8axfce16d030ca8db67@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm.... Sort of gives new meaning to the old phrase, "When's the last time you had a good ol', country a$$ whuppin?" -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/22/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > Heck when you have two guys as manly as Frank and I, we don't have those > worries. It was the result of coffee and a ride in a Spridget. Now I > have > to wonder if "Rampant" is a euphemism for "Flaming". Lord knows what goes > on in the desert; it might be like the cowboy movie I heard about ..... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 10:53:02 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:53:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Pressure Cavity Waxing - not really any LBC content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That was all that he wrote on that page ... At least there was a picture of a car on the page to distract me. >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >Is this more than just colonic irrigation? > >In a message dated 22/01/2008 14:48:22 GMT Standard Time, >robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > >It just struck me as a bit odd that he speaks of "Waxing all >cavities with compressor powered wax gun with extra long hose. Used about >7 >quarts. Followed waxing guide by German X-club." From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 22 10:55:58 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:55:58 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: That's not actually correct. In a message dated 22/01/2008 05:47:24 GMT Standard Time, refisk at chartermi.net writes: On a car everything above the spring is sprung weight. Everything below the spring is unsprung weight From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 22 11:05:55 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:05:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... References: Message-ID: <016201c85d21$6eeaba80$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> On a car everything above the spring is sprung weight. >> Everything below the spring is unsprung weight > That's not actually correct. Yeah, but most of us can understand what he meant. From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 22 11:06:03 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:06:03 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' Message-ID: Yeah, but your e-mail address isn't COSMIC Mag 1380 is it?? In a message dated 21/01/2008 23:13:27 GMT Standard Time, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com writes: With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I have decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that my Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 11:10:14 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:10:14 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 10:48:14 AM Mountain Standard Time, wmgilroy at gmail.com writes: Now I have to wonder if "Rampant" is a euphemism for "Flaming". Lord knows what goes on in the desert; it might be like the cowboy movie I heard about ..... Actually, the Rampant came from the Houston family crest that is traditionally topped with a "rampant red cock" (rooster with one foot up)......;=) Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 22 11:12:00 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:12:00 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/2008 10:52:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, bmwwx man at gmail.com writes: Hmmm.... Sort of gives new meaning to the old phrase, "When's the last time you had a good ol', country a$$ whuppin?" "what did you think all them boots and spurs were about..?" Wille Nelson Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 22 11:35:47 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:35:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hmmm! I could probably get RustyMkIIIs at sympatico.ca ... >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > >Yeah, but your e-mail address isn't COSMIC Mag 1380 is it?? > >In a message dated 21/01/2008 23:13:27 GMT Standard Time, >bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com writes: > >With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I have >decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that >my >Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? > >Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 22 11:38:19 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:38:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <9695193.1201027099596.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Every bike has suspension - think. -----Original Message----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Jan 22, 2008 12:49 PM To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com, Mjsprite at aol.com, abcoz at hky.com, dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... This is a bike with suspension?? In a message dated 22/01/2008 12:51:02 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: sprung weight can be thought of as the frame of the bike. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 22 11:41:21 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:41:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <7523344.1201027281411.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> A trend is very noticeable in Mr. W E S T F I E L D S replies. Just trying to explain the concept a little ;^). D O W N T O N S E V E N -----Original Message----- >From: David Lieb >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 1:05 PM >To: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... > >>> On a car everything above the spring is sprung weight. >>> Everything below the spring is unsprung weight > >> That's not actually correct. > >Yeah, but most of us can understand what he meant. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 22 11:53:08 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:53:08 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: Suspension would be springs and dampers. Of all the bikes I've owned none have had springs and dampers. Bike as in bicycle. In a message dated 22/01/2008 18:38:57 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: Every bike has suspension - think. From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jan 22 12:09:08 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:09:08 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201c85d2a$448cb1e0$0601a8c0@Laptop> Spokes provide suspension on a bike. So does the air in the tyres. So, unless your bike is of the Flintstone's variety, you have suspension. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: 22 January 2008 18:53 To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; Mjsprite at aol.com; abcoz at hky.com; dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Suspension would be springs and dampers. Of all the bikes I've owned none have had springs and dampers. Bike as in bicycle. In a message dated 22/01/2008 18:38:57 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: Every bike has suspension - think. You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1236 - Release Date: 21/01/2008 20:23 From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Tue Jan 22 12:19:46 2008 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:19:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info Message-ID: <012220081919.24394.479641D2000D15ED00005F4A22007374789C0A020106D29CD29F070407089F@comcast.net> 3/31/2000 was my first post . . . no idea of my "number". Looking at responses to my first post, a high proportion of active listers at that time continue to be active listers today. To all of you faithful Spridget aficionadios: Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah! From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 22 12:32:42 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:32:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <12357140.1201030362625.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You're right. -----Original Message----- From: Weslake1330 at aol.com Sent: Jan 22, 2008 1:53 PM To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com, Mjsprite at aol.com, abcoz at hky.com, dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Suspension would be springs and dampers. Of all the bikes I've owned none have had springs and dampers. Bike as in bicycle. In a message dated 22/01/2008 18:38:57 GMT Standard Time, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: Every bike has suspension - think. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 22 12:34:48 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:34:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... Message-ID: <6378143.1201030488372.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You're right. He was staying within the box. It was just a way of explaining the point a little better. -----Original Message----- >From: Guy Weller >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 2:09 PM >To: Weslake1330 at aol.com, mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com, Mjsprite at aol.com, abcoz at hky.com, dmg at bossig.com, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... > >Spokes provide suspension on a bike. >So does the air in the tyres. > >So, unless your bike is of the Flintstone's >variety, you have suspension. > >Guy > >-----Original Message----- >From: >spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t >eam.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk >@autox.team.net]On >Behalf Of Weslake1330 at aol.com >Sent: 22 January 2008 18:53 >To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; >Mjsprite at aol.com; abcoz at hky.com; >dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weights of wheels... > > >Suspension would be springs and dampers. Of all >the bikes I've owned none >have had springs and dampers. Bike as in bicycle. > >In a message dated 22/01/2008 18:38:57 GMT >Standard Time, >mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com writes: > >Every bike has suspension - think. >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jan 22 12:47:21 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:47:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <001401c85cb2$2d77d020$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <64f0a10fa4afc58a33f4a.20080121201920.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <001401c85cb2$2d77d020$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <1062ca2c18da28f6ea86f1a.20080122114721.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Gerard gets the digest version of the list. I talk to him often on the phone. He's been a very good friend these past years. Mike Herby > Hey Mike same here! It's amazing how time flies. Gerard Chateauvieux clued > me in to this list. BTW he's still around. He checks in occasionally but > is > mostly on the Yahoo Bugeye list. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > > First submission I can find in the archives for myself is in September of > 1998. Has it really been almost 10 years?!? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.8/1235 - Release Date: 1/21/2008 > 9:39 AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Jan 22 13:18:34 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:18:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: Was that a post about cats or shotguns? -----Original Message----- From: K. Valentine [mailto:kevin at valentinephoto.net] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:19 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > who are the > co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who > were the > original members and old timers that are still around? Larry, Oct 17th 1997 Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct 17th 1997) The Archives go all the way back ;) Kevin V. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 13:58:27 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:58:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801221258h7389999akc70b1a5d31c85d57@mail.gmail.com> RB, I love it when you type dirty!! Jim On Jan 22, 2008 12:12 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 1/22/2008 10:52:26 AM Mountain Standard Time, > bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: > > Hmmm.... Sort of gives new meaning to the old phrase, "When's the last > time you had a good ol', country a$$ whuppin?" > > > > "what did you think all them boots and spurs were about..?" Wille Nelson > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected > and adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > ------------------------------ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapein the new year. > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 14:04:13 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:04:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801221304g333f0c43vb3c2ca702d4481ac@mail.gmail.com> I think I'll try for something equally descriptive. My choices are: "tatty_midget", "ratty_spridget", "Exxon_Valdez", and "POSpridget" Jim On Jan 22, 2008 12:35 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Hmmm! I could probably get RustyMkIIIs at sympatico.ca ... > > >From: Weslake1330 at aol.com > > > >Yeah, but your e-mail address isn't COSMIC Mag 1380 is it?? > > > >In a message dated 21/01/2008 23:13:27 GMT Standard Time, > >bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com writes: > > > >With all this talk about magnesium wheels and WESLAKE valve covers, I > have > >decided to change my tag line to "COSMIC MAG 1380"... Did I mention that > >my > >Bugeye had a set of COSMIC magnesium wheels on it? > > > >Kent COSMIC MAG 1380 > _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 22 14:14:04 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:14:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what's the story on Moss' References: <43840a7e0801221304g333f0c43vb3c2ca702d4481ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <019001c85d3b$b81f6ce0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I realy think Daniel should try for W_E_S_L_A_K_E__1380 at aol.blah David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 22 14:55:00 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:55:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Meeting at the pickle park.... In-Reply-To: <441250190801220947n7c9bc708pd3f72eaa732363a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190801220947n7c9bc708pd3f72eaa732363a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is this going to become just another Miata list?? On Jan 22, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Bill Gilroy wrote: > Heck when you have two guys as manly as Frank and I, we don't have > those > worries. It was the result of coffee and a ride in a Spridget. > Now I have > to wonder if "Rampant" is a euphemism for "Flaming". Lord knows > what goes > on in the desert; it might be like the cowboy movie I heard > about ..... > > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 9:07 AM, wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/22/2008 9:38:18 AM Mountain Standard Time, >> spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: >> >> it must have been a couple of weeks after I ran into Frank on a rest >> stop on Rt. 287. >> >> >> >> >> **** >> >> Thats probably more than I would have admitted to on the list >> Bill.... >> >> Regards, >> >> Robert B. Houston >> >> 74.5 MGBGT >> 73 MG Midget >> >> As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual >> Skinners Union >> carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly >> formed, >> perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for >> experienced >> hands, >> the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be >> inspected and >> adjusted as >> described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. >> >> >> >> >> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. >> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jan 22 17:13:21 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:13:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] actual daily drivers Message-ID: <000c01c85d54$c5dcb130$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sitting on a slow afternoon and thinking, I realized that last year I drove either my 58 Austin or Bugsy to work every day except four, when I took a "modern" car. That's over 250 commutes in an LBC and that doesn't count extra weekend trips and non-work usage. I guess I'm taking the term "daily driver" rather seriously. Bugsy had a quiet year with the EFI conversion going on and now the crappy wet weather, but Austin has been a workhorse. I sometimes think I'm getting soft, leaving Bugsy in the garage in favor of Austin's roof/radio/heater comforts, but if I actually make it to Missouri, my bona fides should be restored. My dorm-living daughter came home this weekend and asked if I had been driving her Toyota during the bad weather, (looking for some guilt-gas for her tank, no doubt) and I honestly answered "Why would I do that?". Glen From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 19:27:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:27:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] THANK YOU FRANK!! Message-ID: First, I gotta tell you northerners, for what we are used to, it DOES get cold (relative to us) in Texas. I am watching the news at 5am, as I am getting up and ready for work. The high of 45* had hit, about 2 hours earlier, and it was 41 and dropping like a stone. Windy, rainy, foggy, just miserable for the upcoming 35 mile drive. Going to work after being sick for almost 4 days, it was a surprise when my wife called me, to let me know I had a small package. I told her, "Martha, it's F'n FREEZING outside, what do you expect?!" "NO" she says, "it's from Frank" Oh, that explained everything. When I got home, Frank's nuts were on the computer desk. In talking with Frank the other day, I mentioned that I was needing some brass intake/exhaust manifold nuts. I wanted to use a few of them on the exhaust manifold on the 68's new engine, so that they won't gald or corrode, like the ones that were on there did. Frank, thank you again. It is very kind of you to take the time from your restoration of the 67, to send them to me. Hopefully, you were able to combine the trip to the post office, with a trip to Taco Bell for more wrappers. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Tue Jan 22 19:42:56 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:42:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] green engine paint Message-ID: <50896.72.71.216.79.1201056176.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Is it Peter A??? I'd like to order some of the "real" green engine paint. Could you email me with details? Thanks. Dick B. in NH From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Tue Jan 22 19:46:45 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:46:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines on a Bugeye Message-ID: <50900.72.71.216.79.1201056405.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Frank, What do you use for brake line tubing when you are doing everything new. I have done pads and new hoses and need to finish with the tubing and fittings. Also should I stick with the original pedal box and master cylinder setup or use the dual system from a newer parts car? Thanks. Dick in NH From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 22 19:53:48 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:53:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] THANK YOU FRANK!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47963BBC.2507.24DAF1B@dmg.bossig.com> I don't think you meant that...... On 22 Jan 2008 at 20:27, Brad Fornal wrote: >> Oh, that explained everything. When I got home, Frank's nuts were on >> the computer desk. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 19:56:41 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:56:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] THANK YOU FRANK!! In-Reply-To: <47963BBC.2507.24DAF1B@dmg.bossig.com> References: <47963BBC.2507.24DAF1B@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Did I mention that he had B R A S S nuts?? On Jan 22, 2008 8:53 PM, Dave G. wrote: > I don't think you meant that...... > > On 22 Jan 2008 at 20:27, Brad Fornal wrote: > > >> Oh, that explained everything. When I got home, Frank's nuts were on > >> the computer desk. > > - > Dave G, KK7SS > '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 22 20:00:27 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:00:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] THANK YOU FRANK!! In-Reply-To: References: <47963BBC.2507.24DAF1B@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <43739A08-27E5-42AC-9483-B62FC574B40C@comcast.net> Well I, having heard of his exploits of close to two years, assumed as much from the outset.. Lester On Jan 22, 2008, at 8:56 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Did I mention that he had B R A S S nuts?? > > On Jan 22, 2008 8:53 PM, Dave G. wrote: > >> I don't think you meant that...... >> >> On 22 Jan 2008 at 20:27, Brad Fornal wrote: >> >>>> Oh, that explained everything. When I got home, Frank's nuts were >>>> on >>>> the computer desk. >> >> - >> Dave G, KK7SS >> '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jan 22 21:19:39 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:19:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] green engine paint In-Reply-To: <50896.72.71.216.79.1201056176.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50896.72.71.216.79.1201056176.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4796C05B.9040001@wi.net> lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Is it Peter A??? I'd like to order some of the "real" green engine paint. > Could you email me with details? Thanks. > Dick B. in NH > > Me too...me too! Thanks, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Jan 22 23:49:36 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:49:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] green engine paint References: <50896.72.71.216.79.1201056176.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <4796C05B.9040001@wi.net> Message-ID: <005001c85d8c$20059320$f675fea9@p0k7l8> It's Paul A!! I'm here with the green paint Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] green engine paint > lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > > Is it Peter A??? I'd like to order some of the "real" green engine paint. > > Could you email me with details? Thanks. > > Dick B. in NH > > > > > Me too...me too! > Thanks, > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > Burlington WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 23 08:22:58 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:22:58 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Austin-Healey Club License Plate Message-ID: <9314587.1201101778239.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> As part of my continuing electronic tag sale I am offering up a very rare piece of AHCA regalia: The Austin-Healey License Plate. That's right, you can carry the colors of the National Club whether you're a member or not. Auction #120214401147 jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 23 11:25:25 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:25:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] found Morris Message-ID: <000601c85ded$556bce60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I just found this ad in SF Bay area craiglist, interesting. There is a black Morris - Minor 1000 sitting on the street in front of my house. This car was parked there about 2 months ago. I checked with the neighbors and no one is claiming it. It has a Daly City parking sticker in the back window and the License plate is CA 52YF365. I'm not selling it, but I do want the owner to find it back. I believe it was taken for a joy ride and then dumped. I would rather post it here and see if the CL community can get it back to the owner, than call the police to mark it as an abandoned vehicle. Call me. Scott 650-784-5282 From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 23 13:33:11 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:33:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] found Morris References: <000601c85ded$556bce60$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <059301c85dff$2c680f80$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> That guys is NUTS, Glen!!! FIRST thing the police would do is "run the plate" !! And most likely the police WOULD contact the Owner!! Woulda been my very first call if I was Owner!!! Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 23 16:03:53 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:03:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darn Message-ID: <4797C7D9.2070709@comcast.net> But I used very different words than that in the subject line. I had a front hub all clean, blasted, and powdercoated only to find out the inner wheel bearing is very very loose. Like it falls out and has plenty of side play. So I says to myself, you must have the wrong bearing, the inside of the hubs never wear out. Well apparently the do! I dropped the bearing in the other hub and it fit like it should. Not a big deal as I have a few extra hubs but now I have to remove the old bearings, degrease it, glass bead it, and powdercoat it. This will take all evening, talk about a setback! And my possible future son in law just dropped off the wheels with the new tires he mounted for me. Darn! I can't put that 4th wheel on tonight. The 67 has been sitting on a spackle bucket for a good 3 months now, it's time to roll it over to the hoist so I can install the engine and trans. But nope, bum hub means maybe tomorrow or Friday night for the motor. And don't even talk to me about the crash pad vinyl I am trying to glue on. I don't know why but tonight the glue is drying fine but it doesn't stick. Same contact cement I have been using for decades, always worked fine, maybe it's old, about a year as it's leftover from the 58, too cold? it's around 40 in the garage. Just my bad luck tonight? Oh well, I will go out after dinner and use some more serious words as I talk to my parts before I talk to a completed car. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jan 23 17:06:00 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:06:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Darn In-Reply-To: <4797C7D9.2070709@comcast.net> References: <4797C7D9.2070709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <479765E8.27379.1E071D5@dmg.bossig.com> I used to know a farmer in Booneville, In., that would NOT swear, even at his mules to get them moving... Instead he would yell out Old Testament Names line Zedekiah, Jedediah, etc... those dumb mules didn't know the difference!! Didn't work on my kids .... ;-(( On 23 Jan 2008 at 18:03, Frank Clarici wrote: >> Oh well, I will go out after dinner and use some more serious words as >> I talk to my parts before I talk to a completed car. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Wed Jan 23 17:12:38 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:12:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] green paint follow up Message-ID: <50191.72.71.216.79.1201133558.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Thanks to everyone regarding the paint. I've been in contact with Paul and hope to have the engine ready for paint by the time it arrives. Dick From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 23 17:54:20 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:54:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors Message-ID: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> Anyone else think the new Ebay Motors interface sucks donkey d*ck? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 18:04:02 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:04:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors In-Reply-To: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> References: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> Message-ID: <441250190801231704r1b20b5c5k209d1f621e6438d4@mail.gmail.com> Yes. I guess that the new ebay web developer took his work with him when he left Edmunds.com, see http://www.edmunds.com/new/index.html Spooky unless the icon are in the public domain. -g On Jan 23, 2008 4:54 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Anyone else think the new Ebay Motors interface sucks donkey d*ck? > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 23 18:22:37 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:22:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors In-Reply-To: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> References: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> Message-ID: <4797E85D.601@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Anyone else think the new Ebay Motors interface sucks donkey d*ck? That sums it up rather nicely. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 23 18:27:37 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:27:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors References: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> <441250190801231704r1b20b5c5k209d1f621e6438d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03ca01c85e28$4e250190$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Spooky, Bill!! And WST you hit the nail on the HEAD!!!! At least e-bay has Sprite, Midget & Austin-Healey in their "search"!! From p.herder at cox.net Wed Jan 23 18:47:50 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:47:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors In-Reply-To: <03ca01c85e28$4e250190$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com><441250190801231704r1b20b5c5k209d1f621e6438d4@mail.gmail.com> <03ca01c85e28$4e250190$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <2E7BC07896C640249B51F6C9E22D20B7@PaulVU> IAW a post on Grass Roots Motorsports forum, there is a way to put it back to the old look... http://classicmotorsports.net/forum/classic-cars/ebay-motors-changes-format- again/85/page1/ or http://tinyurl.com/3bt8lb I haven't tried or looked into it, yet. What I really hate was there was a way to view just the Kit/Replica vehicles listed... now it searches for the words "kit" and "replica" and every thing has "kit" in the title/description. : ( Paul -----Original Message----- <> Spooky, Bill!! And WST you hit the nail on the HEAD!!!! At least e-bay has Sprite, Midget & Austin-Healey in their "search"!! _______________________________________________ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 23 18:53:54 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:53:54 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Grill on ebay Message-ID: <4608008.1201139634686.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This is an important alert to notify all of you Bugeye owners present or future of an important development: There is an original Bugeye grill on ebay. But seriously, I just listed an extremely nice grill. It's needs only minor straightening and rechroming. Anyone who has expereience with the repros, knows the value of these good original grills. Item # 250206897429 Thanks for your indulgence. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 23 19:01:38 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:01:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Grill on ebay - Corrected Item # Message-ID: <28470991.1201140098137.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> This is an important alert to notify all of you Bugeye owners present or future of an important development: There is an original Bugeye grill on ebay. But seriously, I just listed an extremely nice grill. It's needs only minor straightening and rechroming. Anyone who has expereience with the repros, knows the value of these good original grills. The CORRECT Item number is # 120214618734 Thanks for your indulgence. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jan 23 19:01:28 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:01:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holes in Valance '66 Sprite Message-ID: <68vr7k$2carnh@email.mtu.edu> Looking into the valance (or through the grill) of a '66 Sprite I see four - 1" holes. I know 1 on the left (which of the two?) is for the electrical harness and one on the right (which?) is for the hood release. What are the other two for? I DON'T have the extra holes for an oil cooler as they would all be on the left (remember, I'm looking into the grill when I speak of right and left for this note). I'm assuming those extra holes are filled with a blanking plug. Help! Thanks Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 23 19:30:03 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:30:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] frame rails In-Reply-To: <4797F0E8.9090103@optonline.net> References: <4797F0E8.9090103@optonline.net> Message-ID: <11773C12-9CE5-4ECE-8514-17E6260AE35E@comcast.net> Ok, first question.. which bugeye group? and second, you betcha.. Lester On Jan 23, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Bill Trench wrote: > Hey Lester. Since I seem to have been found out to be an annoying > jerk, and can't post to the BE group, could you find out something > for me ? I am under the impression that it is somewhat common for > the front frame rails to bend upwards just behind the suspension > boxes. Mine are, in fact, this way. It shows in the gap where the > hood meets the door frame , and also in the fact that the castor is > off by a bunch. I have thought up a method of fixing this problem, > and I posted it on the MG Experience board and was told that they > are supposed to be bent. I am sure that I have seen pictures of > replacement rails that looked pretty straight to me. Also , I recall > reading somewhere that this is a fairly common malady of these > bodies. Could you give me your opinion or find out on the other list > for me ? > Thanks, > Bill From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 23 19:37:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:37:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holes in Valance '66 Sprite In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2carnh@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$2carnh@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4797F9DF.6070808@comcast.net> Tim 2 of those holes are access hole to get to the top radiator bolts. Do NOT put wires or cables in those 2 holes. They are the inner most top holes, in line with the top radiator bolt holes. On the passenger side, the main and head/park harness goes thru the outboard hole. On the drivers side, the head/park harness goes thru the hole, the hole on an angle top/outboard is for the bonnet cable. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Jan 23 19:55:05 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:55:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors Message-ID: <26674570.1201143305348.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have already emailed ebay about how bad it sucks. Not that ebay gives a rats you know what ;^). Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" >Sent: Jan 23, 2008 7:54 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] new Ebay motors > >Anyone else think the new Ebay Motors interface sucks donkey d*ck? > > > > > >Wm. Severin Thompson > >~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 24 13:35:10 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:35:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] FIX for new Ebay motors In-Reply-To: <023f01c85e23$a8f51740$fadf45c0$@com> Message-ID: <964937.52850.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was pretty disgusted with the new version till I noticed the "Switch back to original ebay Motors" note. Hallelujah! It is maybe 3/4 of the way up the initial page and in the middle (at least on my screen). The only thing I messed up was that it asked for feedback on the new format. I hit enter too quickly missing my chance to let them know how bad the new version sucked. The option did not come up when I toggled to new and then back to old again. So take your time and fill their screens with feedback for me. - David '71 Midget "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: Anyone else think the new Ebay Motors interface sucks donkey d*ck? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Jan 24 18:10:18 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:10:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] John Sprinzel's "Spritely Years" book Message-ID: <023701c85eef$0f5c48c0$2e14da40$@com> Here's your chance to get a copy of a book long out of print. Original copies have gone for hundreds of dollars on Ebay. John Sprinzel has reprinted "Spritely Years" after buying the rights and the acetates back from Haynes. This is a "must have" for anyone interested in Sprites, Healeys, Triumph, Ford, rallying, and a host of other cars John drove during his career. It's an honest, informative, funny look at John's life as a driver, tuner, manufacturer, etc. Only 500 copies were produced for the 50th Sprite year anniversary, so that they will still be fairly rare. He is selling them autographed at $65 including postage in the US ($71.00 overseas) . His address is P.O. Box 97 Kaunakakai HI 96748 John's e-mail address for this is johnsebring65 at gmail.com . He does have Paypal, (though he says, "I am not yet too sure how it all works"), otherwise US check or money order will do the trick. He'll have a few copies at the Sprite deal in May, and Tom Coulthard (co-author) might be there to sign them as well. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 19:20:31 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:20:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nice color for a 62 ebay 110215123099 In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430801210948m1a4bf5a9xb5491e019954d2d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801241820x38eda773x78e23f1ad0e8f888@mail.gmail.com> Yea I thought the engine looked like crap. But I still like the color. Lin On Jan 21, 2008 12:54 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > For a completely restored car, the engine looks quite dingy. But then, it > IS a 2 cylinder, according to the spec sheet. > > On Jan 21, 2008 11:48 AM, Linda Grunthaner < grunthaner at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > This is a nice color for a 62 MKII Sprite on ebay 110215123099 too bad > > I'm > > keeping Pinky factory pink she would look hot in this color. > > > > Linda > > > > 62 California Sprite "PInky" > > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 03:49:05 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:49:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430801250249t52ea9ce4v5e16ef6404c288b7@mail.gmail.com> Robert I like how you have a a link to your crash photos on your 61 Sprite and states "If you think you can handle the pictures, click here." Nice that the family paid for repairs. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On Jan 22, 2008 9:05 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > http://www.mirafiori.com/%7Eulix/autos/index.html > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Robert Duquette > > > >I have a Fiat X1/9 now that I know next to nothing about. While > >browsing > >the web, I ran in to Ulix. I think if you google his name, you'll find > >him > >and his x. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >Hi chuck !! > > > ><> > >Don't know. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 04:19:18 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:19:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darn In-Reply-To: <479765E8.27379.1E071D5@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4797C7D9.2070709@comcast.net> <479765E8.27379.1E071D5@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <205cef430801250319q199e46aehf8d53685f4665602@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, I used an old can of Contact Cement when I restored an old Fender amp a month back and because I left it in the non heated garage it only worked in some spots. I used to sell Contact Cement in the old hardware store as a kid and I think the cold can give you trouble. From now on I'm buying a new can for important jobs. lots of luck. Lin On Jan 23, 2008 7:06 PM, Dave G. wrote: > I used to know a farmer in Booneville, In., that would NOT swear, even at > his mules to get them moving... > Instead he would yell out Old Testament Names line Zedekiah, Jedediah, > etc... those dumb mules didn't know the difference!! > > Didn't work on my kids .... ;-(( > > On 23 Jan 2008 at 18:03, Frank Clarici wrote: > > >> Oh well, I will go out after dinner and use some more serious words as > >> I talk to my parts before I talk to a completed car. > > - > Dave G, KK7SS > '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 25 06:20:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 13:20:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Today's Auction In-Reply-To: <205cef430801250249t52ea9ce4v5e16ef6404c288b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That website is Ulix's, not mine. ( and I didn't see that page?? I'll have to go back and check it out. :) ) I passed on that site because people were asking what happened to several ex-members ( x-member? :) ) and Ulix was one of the people being asked about. My own crash site is here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/Bea.htm and, it's not a spridget, it's a 'B. RD >From: "Linda Grunthaner" > >Robert I like how you have a a link to your crash photos on your 61 Sprite >and states "If you think you can handle the pictures, click here." Nice >that >the family paid for repairs. >Linda > >62 California Sprite "Pinky" >www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > >On Jan 22, 2008 9:05 AM, Robert Duquette >wrote: > > > >http://www.mirafiori.com/%7Eulix/autos/index.html > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Robert Duquette > > > > > >I have a Fiat X1/9 now that I know next to nothing about. While > > >browsing > > >the web, I ran in to Ulix. I think if you google his name, you'll find > > >him > > >and his x. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Hi chuck !! > > > > > ><> > > >Don't know. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 25 07:06:33 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:06:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Stock Markets - no LBC ( Asian parts? :)) Message-ID: Don't kill me, I'm only the messenger! :) - - - After a tumultuous week, Asian markets rallied Friday as investors took heart from Wall Street's gains overnight and positive U.S. labour market data. Traders also welcomed details of a tax rebate for American consumers announced as part of U.S. President George W. Bush's economic stimulus plan. The tax rebate will put $600 to $1,200 US in most tax filers' pockets. "The markets are reacting to news that Bush and Congress have agreed to accelerate tax rebates for U.S. consumers so they can go out and buy more exports from Asia," said Francis Lun, a general manager at Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong. from: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/01/25/asia-markets.html From Weslake1330 at aol.com Fri Jan 25 10:45:36 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:45:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Darn Message-ID: I've recently been reading about composites with a view to making a buck and making some fibreglass or carbon fibre parts. One interesting thing about resins and glues is the relatively short life they can have - a matter of hours for some. I agree with Lin that maybe the glue was too old. Regards W E S L A K E 1330 n a message dated 25/01/2008 11:19:41 GMT Standard Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: Frank & List, I used an old can of Contact Cement when I restored an old Fender amp a month back and because I left it in the non heated garage it only worked in some spots. I used to sell Contact Cement in the old hardware store as a kid and I think the cold can give you trouble. From now on I'm buying a new can for important jobs. lots of luck. Lin From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 25 11:30:41 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:30:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 in a Bugeye, question Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080125121741.0382e428@mailbag.com> Listerati, What have y'all done about the slave cylinder when installing a 1275, or more specifically the transmission, in a Bugeye. The 67 on cars use a 1/4" pipe (adapted up from 3/16 at the master) that terminates at the flexible hose then goes into the 1" slave. The earlier cars use the 3/16 line solid into the 7/8" bore slave. Options might include: 1. Use the early slave cylinder 2. use the 1275 slave and adapt from 3/16 to 1/4 at the hose 3. use the 1275 slave and adapt at the master to the 1/4" line like the later cars. Thanks Peter C From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Jan 25 14:19:34 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:19:34 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Possibilities Message-ID: In a message dated 1/25/2008 12:02:15 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: carbon fibre parts Wow...a carbon fibre Weslake valve cover! Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 25 16:25:25 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:25:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Possibilities References: Message-ID: <205901c85fa9$90dc5650$6401a8c0@actualshop> Beat me to it RD but you would slightly incorrect!! <> It would HAVE to be "a carbon fibre WESTLAKE 1330" model. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 25 16:29:29 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:29:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 in a Bugeye, question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080125121741.0382e428@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080125121741.0382e428@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <479A70D9.9080208@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Listerati, > > What have y'all done about the slave cylinder when installing a > 1275, or more specifically the transmission, in a Bugeye. I convert to the 67 on set up including the rubber hose, just fabricate a small bracket with a hole in it for the hose and zap screw it to the frame with 2 self drilling screws. It's just a better set up all around. And if are sticking a 1275 in a Bugeye, originality is not an issue ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Fri Jan 25 16:34:19 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:34:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Possibilities In-Reply-To: <205901c85fa9$90dc5650$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: , <205901c85fa9$90dc5650$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <479A017B.14099.17E510C@dmg.bossig.com> Actully, I believe you both may be wrong!! Isn't it WESLAKE 1 3 3 0 ??? On 25 Jan 2008 at 17:25, shop at justbrits.com wrote: >> Beat me to it RD but you would slightly incorrect!! >> >> <> >> >> It would HAVE to be "a carbon fibre WESTLAKE 1330" model. >> >> - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dwramsey at att.net Fri Jan 25 17:06:35 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:06:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] found Morris In-Reply-To: <059301c85dff$2c680f80$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <20080126000657.1402F187645@autox.team.net> Around here the first thing the police would do is ask for a donation. Last month a girl was assaulted, last week one was raped, and another disappeared two days ago. All within five blocks of the university, all between 2 and 5 am. According to the police there is no connection. They did say they were going to contact all the registered sexual offenders in the area; however that is probably just to ask for donations to the Helicopter/Humvee fund. Crash <> That guys is NUTS, Glen!!! FIRST thing the police would do is "run the plate" !! And most likely the police WOULD contact the Owner!! Woulda been my very first call if I was Owner!!! Ed From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 25 18:21:57 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:21:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Possibilities References: , <205901c85fa9$90dc5650$6401a8c0@actualshop> <479A017B.14099.17E510C@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <238101c85fb9$d831a5e0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> No Dave, mine was right for a FOUR cyl. !! Would be anywhere NEAR right for a 6 banger!!! LOL From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 19:16:26 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:16:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun Message-ID: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? -g From herby at herbytoys.com Fri Jan 25 19:34:27 2008 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:34:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun In-Reply-To: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c85fc3$fa812c10$6701a8c0@HERBYZ> Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? -g According to this site it's 4x4.5" (or 114.3mm) http://www.racelinecentral.com/BoltPatterns.html Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM From cfchrist at earthlink.net Fri Jan 25 21:28:00 2008 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:28:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) Message-ID: <508836.1201321680477.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ahhhhh....., montana bob. talk about blasts from da past! hey gang! i'm still alive! just going through some very trying times! WST! i do want those two rims we discussed and am trying to save up the funds to pay you for the two wheels . (i have not forgotten!) chuck "been there..done that..broke it...fixed it and broke the darn thing again!" -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 6:32 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) > >I'm up for disassembling an LBC in Ron's garage. Let's see what we can find >there! ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave > >--- Billy Zoom wrote: >> Wow! I originally signed on in October or November >> of '97. At the time, I >> assumed the list had been around for years. >> BZ > >Me too. I had just gotten my Bugeye and Frank emailed >me offlist on the Healey list and invited me to >Spridgets. > >How many of you remember the reason for Montana Bob's >tantrum in 1999? The FIRST Gift Sprite that never >materialized that youse were gonna disassemble and put >in the garage of the new house I was buying? (My home, >still). I found out about it by accident after >meeting Bob Brown for breakfast. That was the very >coolest for me. > >Ron From cfchrist at earthlink.net Fri Jan 25 21:28:34 2008 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:28:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) Message-ID: <21491197.1201321714978.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ahhhhh....., montana bob. talk about blasts from da past! hey gang! i'm still alive! just going through some very trying times! WST! i do want those two rims we discussed and am trying to save up the funds to pay you for the two wheels . (i have not forgotten!) chuck "been there..done that..broke it...fixed it and broke the darn thing again!" -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 6:32 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) > >I'm up for disassembling an LBC in Ron's garage. Let's see what we can find >there! ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave > >--- Billy Zoom wrote: >> Wow! I originally signed on in October or November >> of '97. At the time, I >> assumed the list had been around for years. >> BZ > >Me too. I had just gotten my Bugeye and Frank emailed >me offlist on the Healey list and invited me to >Spridgets. > >How many of you remember the reason for Montana Bob's >tantrum in 1999? The FIRST Gift Sprite that never >materialized that youse were gonna disassemble and put >in the garage of the new house I was buying? (My home, >still). I found out about it by accident after >meeting Bob Brown for breakfast. That was the very >coolest for me. > >Ron From cfchrist at earthlink.net Fri Jan 25 21:29:20 2008 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:29:20 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) Message-ID: <14167264.1201321760918.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ahhhhh....., montana bob. talk about blasts from da past! hey gang! i'm still alive! just going through some very trying times! WST! i do want those two rims we discussed and am trying to save up the funds to pay you for the two wheels . (i have not forgotten!) chuck "been there..done that..broke it...fixed it and broke the darn thing again!" -----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 6:32 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now: List Info (MONTANA BOB Memories!) > >I'm up for disassembling an LBC in Ron's garage. Let's see what we can find >there! ;) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave > >--- Billy Zoom wrote: >> Wow! I originally signed on in October or November >> of '97. At the time, I >> assumed the list had been around for years. >> BZ > >Me too. I had just gotten my Bugeye and Frank emailed >me offlist on the Healey list and invited me to >Spridgets. > >How many of you remember the reason for Montana Bob's >tantrum in 1999? The FIRST Gift Sprite that never >materialized that youse were gonna disassemble and put >in the garage of the new house I was buying? (My home, >still). I found out about it by accident after >meeting Bob Brown for breakfast. That was the very >coolest for me. > >Ron From nory1 at adelphia.net Fri Jan 25 21:35:17 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:35:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <2C7D04C6-349E-44E4-933B-5A90084E6AE2@adelphia.net> Just checked and it looks like my first post was also on Oct. 17, 1997, and yes, it was spridget related (oil leaks, to be specific). - Nory On Jan 22, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Deikis, John G wrote: > > On Jan 21, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: >> who are the >> co-conspirators in getting this list started? When was that? Who >> were the >> original members and old timers that are still around? > > Larry, > > Oct 17th 1997 > > Frank C., Larry Macy and I were on the first day, (well my first post > was actually the second day because it posted after midnight, Oct > 17th 1997) > > The Archives go all the way back ;) > > > Kevin V. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 25 21:42:57 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:42:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun References: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0d4401c85fd5$ecd73a20$6401a8c0@Larry> Bill, this certainly isn't definitive, but the MG Experience lists "most models to 89" as 4 on 4.5. http://www.mgexperience.net/article/wheel-xref.html Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Spridget Mailing List" Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? -g You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 23:51:27 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:51:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun In-Reply-To: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190801252251x6977a014l9f14514582f59b65@mail.gmail.com> That is what I thought, the rim bolt pattern is 4 x 4.5". Too bad, I found some really nice retro mags. -g On 1/25/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? > > -g From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 26 06:09:59 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:09:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun References: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> <441250190801252251x6977a014l9f14514582f59b65@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0d8001c8601c$c21a6680$6401a8c0@Larry> Bill, those will fit MGBs and TRs up until TR6. Might still be worth snatching them up. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Spridget Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:51 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun That is what I thought, the rim bolt pattern is 4 x 4.5". Too bad, I found some really nice retro mags. -g On 1/25/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? > > -g You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lists at woozy.com Sat Jan 26 06:21:43 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:21:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Now: List Info In-Reply-To: <2C7D04C6-349E-44E4-933B-5A90084E6AE2@adelphia.net> References: <06a701c85c60$5f0a8580$6401a8c0@Larry> <6C4DB7C6-AC6E-49CD-B229-20A8069B5E99@valentinephoto.net> <2C7D04C6-349E-44E4-933B-5A90084E6AE2@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <479B33E7.3040505@woozy.com> I just checked the archives and it looks like my first post was on October 17th 1997 also. I have no idea how I found the list on it's first day and I don't remember ever replacing the boot seal on my '69: Robert Nory wrote: > Just checked and it looks like my first post was also on Oct. 17, 1997, > and yes, it was spridget related (oil leaks, to be specific). > > - Nory From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 07:54:25 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:54:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 'bugeye" Sprite Parts - $100 found on Craigslist Austin TX Message-ID: <205cef430801260654g3c19223cxe20e40a65eb7cf8d@mail.gmail.com> List I found this ad on craigslist for: http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/540095387.html Good luck, Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner Parts removed from "bugeye" Sprite parts car. Cash only, call 512-285-4677 Complete engine(less starter & generator), $100 Smooth case 4-speed transmission, $75 Gas tank w/sending unit, $25 Rear end, $100 (2) radiators, $50 & $30 (5) 13" steel wheels, $10 each Set aluminum cockpit mouldings, $30 From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Jan 26 08:08:21 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:08:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sorry Message-ID: <002701c8602d$4a5fdb50$6401a8c0@personal> I could not resist. A Young woman was pulled over for speeding. A Wisconsin State Trooper walked to her car window, flipping open his ticket book, she said, 'I bet you are going to sell me a ticket to the State Trooper's Ball. 'He replied, 'Wisconsin State Troopers don't have balls.' There was a moment of silence. He then closed his book, got back in his patrol car and left. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 08:44:03 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:44:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Donna Mae Mims "The Pink Lady" cool site's Message-ID: <205cef430801260744l7a1f5388sac1bebad75587b67@mail.gmail.com> Thanks WM & list for the info on Donna Mae Mims I also found this link. What a cool lady. I am not a fan of pink but my little Sprite make it dear to my heart as well as the breast cancer official color it does signify something more than just a color I was never fond of. Who knew the color I had to live with in my room as a little girl would mean so much now. Enjoy this article. http://www.steeltownvette.com/Hall%20of%20Fame/Mims.htm I would love to see her pink Bugeye in full pink if anyone has found an older link to that image. Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 08:45:43 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:45:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Bugeye Message-ID: <205cef430801260745j773519cua57aad7fea97e22d@mail.gmail.com> Oh yes WM this is the b&w you sent of her pink Bugeye too bad it is not in color. http://www.autoarch.com/thinkpinksprite.html Lin From biffjones at verizon.net Sat Jan 26 11:22:09 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:22:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: new tool Message-ID: <007c01c86048$5db23110$2f01a8c0@dell1> this is a must have tool for british car owners. www.sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Jan 26 12:29:19 2008 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:29:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Master cylinder ID Message-ID: <82744122-C1B2-4132-B80E-8A715CC4E47C@gerardsgarage.com> I'm wondering if anyone can ID this Lockheed master cylinder. It is identical in appearance to the MGA /early Spridget tandem master cylinder, but the body is 1 inch longer than usual. It is a 7/8" bore and has the casting number 31448C. If someone can identify which cars these were used in, I'd like to hear from you. I have a photo I can send offlist to anyone who wants to see it. Thanks. Gerard From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sat Jan 26 14:20:08 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:20:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY Message-ID: <25455931.1201382413216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130192439524&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Datsun-210-2dr-Hatchback-Classic-Parts-or-project_W0QQitemZ110217562175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Too far away for me to consider, Kent (Cosmic Mag 1380) 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Jan 26 13:45:43 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:45:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun References: <441250190801251816w7f0f6191h712818102c5eb7a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8605c$6cf03b40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> 4 on 4 1/2" Offset is poor for a spridget, too. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Spridget Mailing List" Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:16 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bolt pattern for Datsun > Anyone know what is the bolt pattern for a Datsun B210? > > -g > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 15:20:08 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:20:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: new tool In-Reply-To: <007c01c86048$5db23110$2f01a8c0@dell1> Message-ID: <959744.28072.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Biff Jones wrote: > this is a must have tool for british car owners. > www.sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html. For the "We Tight" crowd, a paint stir stick and duct tape can be substituted for fancy steel bar. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 15:41:22 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:41:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: new tool In-Reply-To: <959744.28072.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <007c01c86048$5db23110$2f01a8c0@dell1> <959744.28072.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801261441rbb95e57if7b6a25172d6b779@mail.gmail.com> This outfit has always been my favorite source for special tools.... http://kalecoauto.com/ There's a good chance they may show up as a vendor at Lake of the Ozarks.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... On 1/26/08, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- Biff Jones wrote: > > > this is a must have tool for british car owners. > > www.sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html. > > For the "We Tight" crowd, a paint stir stick and duct > tape can be substituted for fancy steel bar. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 26 17:34:12 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:34:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Fw: new tool References: <007c01c86048$5db23110$2f01a8c0@dell1> <959744.28072.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0801261441rbb95e57if7b6a25172d6b779@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <048c01c8607c$56f64350$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> A] I believe YOU, Jim!!!!!! B] You have FAR, Far, FAR TOO much FREE time on your hands!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 26 17:59:20 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:59:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: new tool References: <959744.28072.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0dfd01c8607f$da156f10$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Biff Jones" ; "Spridgets" ; Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: new tool --- Biff Jones wrote: > this is a must have tool for british car owners. > www.sheldonbrown.com/tork-grip.html. For the "We Tight" crowd, a paint stir stick and duct tape can be substituted for fancy steel bar. ____________________________________________________________________________________Ewww. Paint stir stick? Do I need to add that to my signature line?Larry Daniels79 MGB LE60 Bugeye67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute)"You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If itdoesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If itshouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 19:35:07 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:35:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Russo and Steele auction Message-ID: <335359.81945.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Was watching for a bit today. They were auctioning Reggie Jackson's cars. The experts were estimating DOUBLE what the cars were selling for. It looks like we may have our hobby back. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 26 20:49:16 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:49:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Russo and Steele auction References: <335359.81945.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02a401c86097$96e4bbc0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> B.J. results also indicated same, Ron!! And an article in the Trib one day last week indicated same as your thoughts!! Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 26 21:20:50 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:20:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC Message-ID: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Guys Anybody know anything about overhead garage doors with regular springs? The scenario.... My son bought a lift for his garage (cheap) we installed it a few months ago and it works fine but.... He had an 8' ceiling in his garage, he knew a good carpenter ;) and I cut out the ceiling, installed appropriate collar ties and headers, rewired it, added lighting, rerouted water pipes and heating ducts, insulated the new and re-sheetrocked the roof and walls. Now he has a 13' ceiling in the lift area. Cool! But the original (relatively) new overhead door was smack in the middle of where the new ceiling is. So I thought we could just do some reworking of the tracks and make the door roll up the wall and along the rake of the roof line. Well it goes up on our cut/rewelded tracks but we are having a hell of a time making the springs work. It is a 7' high door, the ceiling was 8', now the door has to go up to the 9' mark where the roof meets the wall then along the ceiling which is a 6/12 pitch or 27 degree angle. The springs now hit the rollers at the wall, the rollers have been moved to the wall/roof line. I mean I spent all day fabricating brackets and tracks today only to run into this spring problem. I think I can put in more angle iron and move the springs farther up the ceiling, but then the cables would need to be twice as long. I really don't want to put more holes in the fresh painted new sheetrock if this is not going to work. A torsion spring above the door is out of the question, no room as the door now moves up the wall and along the cathedral ceiling. No room for a sideways rolling door, barn doors opening out would work but this overhead is fairly new and with all this garage renovations, he's broke. I have financed more than my share on HIS garage for the rights to use the lift. In fact, I spent more than he did on renovations to the garage then he spent on the lift. So any garage door guys on this list? Engineers, Ron. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 21:47:05 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:47:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <270168.58014.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > A torsion spring above the door is out of the > question, OK well never mind. > Engineers, Ron. I'm in the shop installing Peterbuilts on the streetcar. If no one answers tonight I'll sketch it out and we'll figger something. Remember, I'm just a business unit director now, so I can't calculate, I can only tell you whether you met schedule or budget. Lynette just came out to the shop. Apparently one of the left coast listers forgot the time zones and just called and woke her up. He shall remain nameless, Buster. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 26 22:04:24 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:04:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY In-Reply-To: <25455931.1201382413216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22> Message-ID: <20080127050449.06B1318789B@autox.team.net> The first one is a 79, while listed as a B210 it is a 210 but the ad says nothing about the tranny, even if it is a 5-speed it would be the "dog-leg" shift with the drain plug off the rear and not the bottom. The second one is in Lancaster, CA. enough said. Crash -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=S TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130192439524&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Datsun-210-2dr-Hatchback-Classic-Parts-o r-project_W0QQitemZ110217562175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Too far away for me to consider, Kent (Cosmic Mag 1380) 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen You are subscribed as dwramsey at att.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 00:36:29 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:36:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> References: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190801262336i49ede5f6w9dd91a94d62e9df9@mail.gmail.com> If I read correctly the problem is that the springs don't work. I understand that to mean the the door does not go up or stay up. The problem is as I read it is that the springs are not strong enough to lift the door. With regular door door the springs do not hold that much weight since the door is horizontal on the tracks. In your new setup the spring must hold a bunch more weight. My solution would be either counter weights, sort of like a sash weight or a heavier spring. Get the physicist to do the math on what type of spring you will need. On 1/26/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Guys > > Anybody know anything about overhead garage doors with regular springs? > The scenario.... > My son bought a lift for his garage (cheap) we installed it a few months > ago and it works fine but.... > He had an 8' ceiling in his garage, he knew a good carpenter ;) and I > cut out the ceiling, installed appropriate collar ties and headers, > rewired it, added lighting, rerouted water pipes and heating ducts, > insulated the new and re-sheetrocked the roof and walls. > Now he has a 13' ceiling in the lift area. Cool! > But the original (relatively) new overhead door was smack in the middle > of where the new ceiling is. So I thought we could just do some > reworking of the tracks and make the door roll up the wall and along the > rake of the roof line. > Well it goes up on our cut/rewelded tracks but we are having a hell of a > time making the springs work. > It is a 7' high door, the ceiling was 8', now the door has to go up to > the 9' mark where the roof meets the wall then along the ceiling which > is a 6/12 pitch or 27 degree angle. > The springs now hit the rollers at the wall, the rollers have been moved > to the wall/roof line. > I mean I spent all day fabricating brackets and tracks today only to run > into this spring problem. > I think I can put in more angle iron and move the springs farther up the > ceiling, but then the cables would need to be twice as long. I really > don't want to put more holes in the fresh painted new sheetrock if this > is not going to work. > A torsion spring above the door is out of the question, no room as the > door now moves up the wall and along the cathedral ceiling. > No room for a sideways rolling door, barn doors opening out would work > but this overhead is fairly new and with all this garage renovations, > he's broke. I have financed more than my share on HIS garage for the > rights to use the lift. In fact, I spent more than he did on renovations > to the garage then he spent on the lift. > So any garage door guys on this list? > Engineers, Ron. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 04:53:36 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:53:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] youtube Bugeye with an auto trans Message-ID: <205cef430801270353o79c96740gbe6843edfc04a2b7@mail.gmail.com> List, I stumbled across this interesting video on youtube today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwX0nd9dDCk&feature=related Lin 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 06:22:11 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:22:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> References: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001c860e7$a1df3190$e59d94b0$@com> One of my shop doors goes up that way, the small door on the side. I'll take some pictures and send them today... see if it helps you figure it out. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:21 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC Guys Anybody know anything about overhead garage doors with regular springs? The scenario.... My son bought a lift for his garage (cheap) we installed it a few months ago and it works fine but.... He had an 8' ceiling in his garage, he knew a good carpenter ;) and I cut out the ceiling, installed appropriate collar ties and headers, rewired it, added lighting, rerouted water pipes and heating ducts, insulated the new and re-sheetrocked the roof and walls. Now he has a 13' ceiling in the lift area. Cool! But the original (relatively) new overhead door was smack in the middle of where the new ceiling is. So I thought we could just do some reworking of the tracks and make the door roll up the wall and along the rake of the roof line. Well it goes up on our cut/rewelded tracks but we are having a hell of a time making the springs work. It is a 7' high door, the ceiling was 8', now the door has to go up to the 9' mark where the roof meets the wall then along the ceiling which is a 6/12 pitch or 27 degree angle. The springs now hit the rollers at the wall, the rollers have been moved to the wall/roof line. I mean I spent all day fabricating brackets and tracks today only to run into this spring problem. I think I can put in more angle iron and move the springs farther up the ceiling, but then the cables would need to be twice as long. I really don't want to put more holes in the fresh painted new sheetrock if this is not going to work. A torsion spring above the door is out of the question, no room as the door now moves up the wall and along the cathedral ceiling. No room for a sideways rolling door, barn doors opening out would work but this overhead is fairly new and with all this garage renovations, he's broke. I have financed more than my share on HIS garage for the rights to use the lift. In fact, I spent more than he did on renovations to the garage then he spent on the lift. So any garage door guys on this list? Engineers, Ron. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 06:23:16 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 07:23:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> References: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000101c860e7$c88a5540$599effc0$@com> One more thing... garage door isntallers are missing more fingers than your average 7th grade shop teacher., -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:21 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC Guys Anybody know anything about overhead garage doors with regular springs? The scenario.... My son bought a lift for his garage (cheap) we installed it a few months ago and it works fine but.... He had an 8' ceiling in his garage, he knew a good carpenter ;) and I cut out the ceiling, installed appropriate collar ties and headers, rewired it, added lighting, rerouted water pipes and heating ducts, insulated the new and re-sheetrocked the roof and walls. Now he has a 13' ceiling in the lift area. Cool! But the original (relatively) new overhead door was smack in the middle of where the new ceiling is. So I thought we could just do some reworking of the tracks and make the door roll up the wall and along the rake of the roof line. Well it goes up on our cut/rewelded tracks but we are having a hell of a time making the springs work. It is a 7' high door, the ceiling was 8', now the door has to go up to the 9' mark where the roof meets the wall then along the ceiling which is a 6/12 pitch or 27 degree angle. The springs now hit the rollers at the wall, the rollers have been moved to the wall/roof line. I mean I spent all day fabricating brackets and tracks today only to run into this spring problem. I think I can put in more angle iron and move the springs farther up the ceiling, but then the cables would need to be twice as long. I really don't want to put more holes in the fresh painted new sheetrock if this is not going to work. A torsion spring above the door is out of the question, no room as the door now moves up the wall and along the cathedral ceiling. No room for a sideways rolling door, barn doors opening out would work but this overhead is fairly new and with all this garage renovations, he's broke. I have financed more than my share on HIS garage for the rights to use the lift. In fact, I spent more than he did on renovations to the garage then he spent on the lift. So any garage door guys on this list? Engineers, Ron. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 08:39:35 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:39:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question Message-ID: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> I know there are a few of you Suburu lovers on the list. Do any of the wiz bang zoomie AWD turbo cars have automatics? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From jlaird237 at cox.net Sun Jan 27 09:14:57 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:14:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Skelton midget triumph References: <459660.60960.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c860ff$c2ae9f10$6401a8c0@personal> That was great. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Webster" To: ; "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:56 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Skelton midget triumph > triumph the verb....not the marque. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l50Ip9SzLNs > > > > > --------------------------------- > Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: > 1/25/2008 7:44 PM From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 09:16:17 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:16:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s Message-ID: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com> So, what I'm considering. Is something to commute back & forth to Madison if I get the job I'm angling for. It's about a 75 to 90 minute commute. I'd only interested in something used. I'd like something AWD, something a little zoomy as far as performance. I'd like an automatic so the spousal unit can drive it also. Do any of those racey/rallye Suburus come in automatics? In the non-salt months I'd commute in a Sprite. (I may just go back to my old faithful choice of an older BMW sedan with 4 Nokia snow tires if I find the Suburus uninspiring.) Voice your oinions.. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 09:26:04 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:26:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Door Message-ID: <565843.1482.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey Frank, As much as you might hate to do it, this is one where I'd hire out. Had a friend who tried to replace a broken spring and it let go and smacked him in the side of head. Lucky he wasn't killed and his vision still isn't right 5 + years later. After watching a couple of idiots replace a spring on my door that broke and watching that wound up torsion spring let loose with their special tool, a BF Screwdriver used to wind the spring, go flying across the garage, and fortunately not hitting anything other than denting some drywall, I'll leave this job to the professionals. I have the local garage door and table saw mechanic Les Digits on my Speed Dial List. Statistics say that the garage door spring is absolutely the most hazardous thing ypou can mess with in your house or garage. Tops by far of anything else on the dangerous things for homeowners list. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 09:28:45 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:28:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Door In-Reply-To: <565843.1482.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <565843.1482.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005501c86101$b1fcdea0$15f69be0$@com> I believe this echoes my comments about garage door installers missing fingers.... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Gruber Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:26 AM To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Door Hey Frank, As much as you might hate to do it, this is one where I'd hire out. Had a friend who tried to replace a broken spring and it let go and smacked him in the side of head. Lucky he wasn't killed and his vision still isn't right 5 + years later. After watching a couple of idiots replace a spring on my door that broke and watching that wound up torsion spring let loose with their special tool, a BF Screwdriver used to wind the spring, go flying across the garage, and fortunately not hitting anything other than denting some drywall, I'll leave this job to the professionals. I have the local garage door and table saw mechanic Les Digits on my Speed Dial List. Statistics say that the garage door spring is absolutely the most hazardous thing ypou can mess with in your house or garage. Tops by far of anything else on the dangerous things for homeowners list. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. _______________________________________________ From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 09:51:21 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:51:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Reservations for the 50th Message-ID: <53895.58671.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I committed and made reservations for the 50th this morning. As of today only 20 rooms left for 6-26, 27, 28. Just Doubles Left for the most part, Rate with Tax $92.80 per night. Time to stop talking about going and commit. Bugsy's nose job will be complete along with rest of bodywork biggest decision now is stay BRG or go Sunburst Yellow. I'm tempted to go all yellow but better half says stay BRG to hide 40 years of wear and tear on the Square Body and 50 years of dents and rust on the Bugeye Bonnet. Maybe BRG wit ha bright Yellow Stripe. Decisions, decisions, decisions. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 27 10:04:15 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:04:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s References: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com> Message-ID: <0ead01c86106$a5e1b5f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Teach Nancy to drive a stick? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" ; Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:16 AM Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s So, what I'm considering. Is something to commute back & forth to Madison if I get the job I'm angling for. It's about a 75 to 90 minute commute. I'd only interested in something used. I'd like something AWD, something a little zoomy as far as performance. I'd like an automatic so the spousal unit can drive it also. Do any of those racey/rallye Suburus come in automatics? In the non-salt months I'd commute in a Sprite. (I may just go back to my old faithful choice of an older BMW sedan with 4 Nokia snow tires if I find the Suburus uninspiring.) Voice your oinions.. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 10:22:24 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:22:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <0ead01c86106$a5e1b5f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com> <0ead01c86106$a5e1b5f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <006b01c86109$30b2c000$92184000$@com> I've got 20+ stick shift cars... only 2 automatics... her Jeep Commander, and a 3/4 ton, one ton rear axle GMC pick up with manual steering and manual drum brakes... she's not likely to drive that. I've taught her to drive 3 different vehicles with stick shift... my Sprite, my big Healey, and the 1 ton diesel dually. She'd rather drive automatic, and I'd rather have a 2nd vehicle she's comfortable in. As you know the roads leading into town from out here are shit in the winter. -----Original Message----- From: team-thicko-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:team-thicko-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:04 AM To: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Thicko] [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s Teach Nancy to drive a stick? LAD From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 10:23:12 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:23:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <200801271710.m0RHAX5Y011038@moose.dimebank.com> References: <200801271710.m0RHAX5Y011038@moose.dimebank.com> Message-ID: <006c01c86109$55a27810$00e76830$@com> F FWD. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Kantarjiev [mailto:cak at dimebank.com] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:11 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; team-thicko at autox.team.net; wsthompson at thicko.com Subject: Re: [Thicko] more Suburu ??s > Do any of those racey/rallye Suburus come in > automatics? I'm pretty sure that you could get a slushbox in the first gen WRX (circa 2002). Many people complained of low rpm turbo lag in those cars, so you might not like it combined with an auto. The WRX is a fun car - but the gas mileage is pretty pitiful. Figure that you're doing well to get 22mpg on the freeway, and only if you keep your foot out of it. The even older 2.5RS, which is my daily driver (a 2000) is non-turbo, can be had with an auto, and can be had in a coupe. I like it lots, but mileage is only slightly better than the WRX ... None of them will feel like a Sprite. These are *big* cars in comparison... Maybe a used Mini? Not AWD, but the FWD is good. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 10:38:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:38:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> Message-ID: <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I know there are a few of you Suburu lovers on the > list. Do any of the wiz > bang zoomie AWD turbo cars have automatics? My wife has a 2006 AWD Subaru. The transmission probably the best thing on the car. It's only been in the shop twice for that. It short-shifts and makes an audible "bang" noise into third when cold. It went to the dealer for its 12th time in 2 years on Friday. It's a complete $33,000 piece of shit that should never have seen the light of day. If anyone wants it, make me an offer. Any offer. The dealer finally decided to just give me another loaner indefinitely until he fixes everything. The worst service department I've ever seen didn't help either (Porsche, Audi, Subaru, GM/Saab). They fired everyone a few weeks ago and brought back some old timers and that has really helped. Before this, I had over 750,000 miles on 4 Toyotas that never saw the inside of a repair shop. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 10:42:51 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:42:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Reservations for the 50th In-Reply-To: <53895.58671.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <53895.58671.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801270942id973cb4wd1f87332d2c23504@mail.gmail.com> On 1/27/08, James Gruber wrote: > > I committed and made reservations for the 50th this morning. As of today > only 20 rooms left for 6-26, 27, 28. Just Doubles Left for the most part, > Rate with Tax $92.80 per night. Time to stop talking about going and commit. > Bugsy's nose job will be complete along with rest of bodywork biggest > decision now is stay BRG or go Sunburst Yellow. > > I'm tempted to go all yellow but better half says stay BRG to hide 40 > years of wear and tear on the Square Body and 50 years of dents and rust on > the Bugeye Bonnet. Maybe BRG wit ha bright Yellow Stripe. Decisions, > decisions, decisions. Ah!! How about Lotus colors then? You know... Before John Player made 'em go all black? I can see Jimmy Clark at the wheel now.... ;-) Thanks, Jim. This is what we've been trying to convey to everyone... If you want to be in the headquarters hotel at Lake of the Ozarks, then you need to get your reservations in ASAP! Also, we'd like to encourage everyone to pre-register for the event online if you possibly can. The committee could use the cash for printing, postage, insurances, park rental, trophies, decals, T-shirts...etc. Check it out at: * http://tinyurl.com/2hubqt* While you are at it, there have been quite a few updates on the website and more to come this week! This event is shaping up to be a real block buster! I can hardly wait to see everyone and all the cars! -- Cheers!! The "Other" Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 10:46:54 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:46:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008201c8610c$9c8394f0$d58abed0$@com> There's a ringing endorsement... (and he once owned a Lotus). I offer $200. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:39 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suburu question --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I know there are a few of you Suburu lovers on the > list. Do any of the wiz > bang zoomie AWD turbo cars have automatics? My wife has a 2006 AWD Subaru. The transmission probably the best thing on the car. It's only been in the shop twice for that. It short-shifts and makes an audible "bang" noise into third when cold. It went to the dealer for its 12th time in 2 years on Friday. It's a complete $33,000 piece of shit that should never have seen the light of day. If anyone wants it, make me an offer. Any offer. The dealer finally decided to just give me another loaner indefinitely until he fixes everything. The worst service department I've ever seen didn't help either (Porsche, Audi, Subaru, GM/Saab). They fired everyone a few weeks ago and brought back some old timers and that has really helped. Before this, I had over 750,000 miles on 4 Toyotas that never saw the inside of a repair shop. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jan 27 10:51:44 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:51:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <006b01c86109$30b2c000$92184000$@com> References: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com>, <0ead01c86106$a5e1b5f0$6401a8c0@Larry>, <006b01c86109$30b2c000$92184000$@com> Message-ID: <479C5430.32535.57D2D9@dmg.bossig.com> Had an Outback, now have a Honda.. Freezing rain started yesterday afternoon, built up 3/4" clear ice on everything before turning into snow... It's nearly 10 am and it's STILL snowing...!! No snowploughs in this town... 2WD, 4WD or AWD... I ain't going nowhere -- even if I still had the outback!!! Too many SUV drivers that think they are immortal!! - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 11:08:07 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:08:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Skelton midget triumph In-Reply-To: <002c01c860ff$c2ae9f10$6401a8c0@personal> References: <459660.60960.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <002c01c860ff$c2ae9f10$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801271008kcfe098etb02f09ea3368d7d3@mail.gmail.com> Oh so very sweet it was..... ;-) Jim On 1/27/08, Jack Laird wrote: > > That was great. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy Webster" > To: ; "spridgets" > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:56 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Skelton midget triumph > > > > triumph the verb....not the marque. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l50Ip9SzLNs > > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 11:08:26 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:08:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190801271008l5b5c534fj4da641a160f47b2c@mail.gmail.com> Wow, that sounds like my wife's 2002 VW Passat, I could not wait to get rid of the POS. The final straw was oil pressure issues. We did replace it with a 2008 Subaru Outback. I hope my experience turns out better than yours. We looked at Toyotas but the Highlander was a bit big. AWD/4WD is good to have; if it snows I cannot get a car up the mountain. -g On 1/27/08, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" > wrote: > > > I know there are a few of you Suburu lovers on the > > list. Do any of the wiz > > bang zoomie AWD turbo cars have automatics? > > My wife has a 2006 AWD Subaru. The transmission > probably the best thing on the car. It's only been in > the shop twice for that. It short-shifts and makes an > audible "bang" noise into third when cold. It went to > the dealer for its 12th time in 2 years on Friday. > It's a complete $33,000 piece of shit that should > never have seen the light of day. If anyone wants it, > make me an offer. Any offer. The dealer finally > decided to just give me another loaner indefinitely > until he fixes everything. The worst service > department I've ever seen didn't help either (Porsche, > Audi, Subaru, GM/Saab). They fired everyone a few > weeks ago and brought back some old timers and that > has really helped. Before this, I had over 750,000 > miles on 4 Toyotas that never saw the inside of a > repair shop. > > Ron > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Team-thicko mailing list > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/team-thicko > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Jan 27 11:17:31 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:17:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns - No LBC Message-ID: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> I just know that some lister(s) will order from this company. http://www.bulletknob.com/store/ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Jan 27 11:19:33 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:19:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <200801271805.m0RI5WGX001860@moose.dimebank.com> References: <200801271805.m0RI5WGX001860@moose.dimebank.com> Message-ID: <009701c86111$2c778db0$8566a910$@com> I'd get an older BMW 325 and 4 Nokias before I'd ever get FWD. I'd really like to have under $8k in whatever I buy for a "commuter car". Might even go older Jeep Cherokee, etc. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Kantarjiev [mailto:cak at dimebank.com] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 12:06 PM To: wsthompson at thicko.com Subject: RE: [Thicko] more Suburu ??s > > F FWD. I understand ... but the new Mini really is a lot of fun, and doesn't have (most of) the usual FWD foibles. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 11:31:02 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:31:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <008201c8610c$9c8394f0$d58abed0$@com> Message-ID: <695815.77299.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > There's a ringing endorsement... (and he once owned > a Lotus). > > I offer $200. An my non-salt daily driver is an Alfa. Thanks for the offer, but I can't take more than $180. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 11:32:28 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:32:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns - No LBC In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801271032x1df6da78sb3c9eba78867ea32@mail.gmail.com> On 1/27/08, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > I just know that some lister(s) will order from this company. > http://www.bulletknob.com/store/ Damned straight, Bubba!!! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 11:52:33 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 12:52:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns - No LBC References: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <123501c86115$c7288c70$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Da*n Tim, now I GOTTA save up for that six-shooter knob for the Shop door!!!! And for the "Dummy" for the short door next to it!!! THANKS!! Geesh, I hate you!!!! Anon From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 12:03:13 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:03:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Knobs - Re: Guns - No LBC In-Reply-To: <123501c86115$c7288c70$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <855125.92280.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: > Da*n Tim, now I GOTTA save up for that six-shooter > knob for the Shop door!!!! A friend is making me a bunch of miniature 1275 pistons in black anodized aluminum for my new shop cabinet doors. He's doing them for free for me, but may be selling them if they end up looking good. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From RampantNM at aol.com Sun Jan 27 12:12:50 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:12:50 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Subaru vs Toyota Message-ID: In a message dated 1/27/2008 11:53:51 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: The final straw was oil pressure issues. We did replace it with a 2008 Subaru Outback. I hope my experience turns out better than yours. We looked at Toyotas but the Highlander was a bit big. AWD/4WD is good to have; if it snows I cannot get a car up the mountain. Odd, I've been trying to talk my wife into a Highlander. Friday night at Sam's one was parked next to us and she said it was too small. So I guess we'll drive the Tahoe (199K+ miles) until it drops. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 12:57:34 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:57:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <695815.77299.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <008201c8610c$9c8394f0$d58abed0$@com> <695815.77299.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ok, $150 then. To help ease your consience.... On Jan 27, 2008 12:31 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" > wrote: > > > There's a ringing endorsement... (and he once owned > > a Lotus). > > > > I offer $200. > > An my non-salt daily driver is an Alfa. > > Thanks for the offer, but I can't take more than $180. > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 15:08:12 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:08:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com> References: <004f01c860ff$f40870e0$dc1952a0$@com> Message-ID: <479D00CC.7050900@comcast.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > I'd only interested in something used. I'd like something AWD, > Voice your oinions.. Jag X type. Style, performance, AWD and it ain't japanese. OK it's a Ford but made in the UK with a UK engine. But teach your SO to drive a stick, they come with 5 speeds and Wuss boxes -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 15:34:37 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:34:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Knobs - Re: Guns - No LBC References: <855125.92280.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <058a01c86134$cd757600$6401a8c0@actualshop> DAMN IT, Ron!!!! <> I sure HOPE they turn out BAD!!! REALLY BAD!!!! I would need TWENTY-FIVE!!!!! I hate you also!!!!! Anon From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jan 27 15:35:25 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:35:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns - No LBC In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$2f2er9@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: I wish I could afford the knob. I'm trying to re-assemble my basement workbench so, with this inspiration, I may seek creative solutions for cabinet knobs. Maybe some old rockers ... :) -----Original Message----- From: Timothy H. Collins I just know that some lister(s) will order from this company. http://www.bulletknob.com/store/ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From fredpixley at sympatico.ca Sun Jan 27 15:40:24 2008 From: fredpixley at sympatico.ca (Frederick Pixley) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:40:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC Message-ID: Frank, Much of the advice received is good, as this is a complicated subject. In a normal installation the springs are tightly wound when the door is closed and as the door opens the springs unwind losing power. This is OK because as the door goes horizontal you don't want it to keep flying up. It stops gently as the spring unwinds. What you are attempting is something altogether different. It may be possible, but some major changes will be required. Good luck with the project. Fred Napanee, Ontario From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jan 27 15:54:26 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:54:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Whoa! You're scaring me! I bought a used 2001 Subaru Outback VDC H6 3.0 http://cartest.ca/2001_subaru_outback_h6_30.htm just over a year ago. I love that car. It has broken twice though. The first was after I used the park brake. I don't normally, but I figure when you buy a car, you make sure stuff works. The dealer fixed it. The second was fairly recently. The tensioner pulley seized up and broke a belt. I was pleasantly surprised to find that the then powerless steering was driveable. But, other than that, oil and gas ... and fun in the snow. RD --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I know there are a few of you Suburu lovers on the > list. Do any of the wiz > bang zoomie AWD turbo cars have automatics? My wife has a 2006 AWD Subaru. The transmission probably the best thing on the car. It's only been in the shop twice for that. It short-shifts and makes an audible "bang" noise into third when cold. It went to the dealer for its 12th time in 2 years on Friday. It's a complete $33,000 piece of shit that should never have seen the light of day. If anyone wants it, make me an offer. Any offer. The dealer finally decided to just give me another loaner indefinitely until he fixes everything. The worst service department I've ever seen didn't help either (Porsche, Audi, Subaru, GM/Saab). They fired everyone a few weeks ago and brought back some old timers and that has really helped. Before this, I had over 750,000 miles on 4 Toyotas that never saw the inside of a repair shop. Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 18:59:21 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:59:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> References: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <479D36F9.3080401@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > (Note that I don't fit in the Big Healeys, Just the Sprite.)" Did you know the Big Healey is only 3inches wider at the inside of the doors than a Sprite. Now add a 12" wide tunnel between the seats where the Sprite has a 6" tunnel and that makes the Big one 3" narrower inside than the little one. Same size seats, a bit more leg length, but if you have a wide ass, the Sprite is a better car for you. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 27 19:35:08 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:35:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports References: Message-ID: <036d01c86156$667e15c0$0201a8c0@midget> > If he's 6'4", and can't fit into an Alfa, that must have been his width > rather than height. Not all Alfas. He says he is not comfortable in the TV6 and series 3 and 4 Spider. He does say that the pre-1969 Giulia GT, the Duetto, the 1973-1985 2000 Spider and anything from a 750-series Giulietta to a 101-series Giulia are fine. Not being an Afisti, none of this means a whole lot to me. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 27 19:49:47 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:49:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <036d01c86156$667e15c0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: > He does say that the pre-1969 Giulia GT, the Duetto, the 1973-1985 > 2000 Spider and anything from a 750-series Giulietta to a 101-series Giulia > are fine. OK, that makes more sense. I'm big, and those are some of the roomiest cars I've been in. From bugi1960 at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 19:58:37 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:58:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gauge bezels Message-ID: <003201c86159$ae7f96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Where's good source to buy new gauge bezels. And how do you get that odometer reset stem off. Is the screw peened over? It seems like the simplest stuff is taking me way to much time to finish. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 19:59:16 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:59:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <036d01c86156$667e15c0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <103827.59411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > are fine. Not being an Afisti, none of this means a > whole lot to me. I can translate. It means he hasn't had a lot of seat time in any of them. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From bugi1960 at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 20:04:40 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:04:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank Message-ID: <003701c8615a$87148900$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Anyone have a Bugeye gas tank in decent shape they would like to sell? Mine is swiss cheese at the filler neck to tank joint. I am tempted to buy the new one shown on eBay but I heard they oil can and have no drain plug. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 20:09:03 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:09:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <137704.4175.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <479D00CC.7050900@comcast.net> <137704.4175.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801271909m39a4f5e9u705689779817970c@mail.gmail.com> Subaru service is bad here. The only dealer in town is in a complex that isn't as nice as some used car dealers. Parts take forever to arrive. Just something to check in your area before investing in one. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 20:08:48 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:08:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gauge bezels In-Reply-To: <003201c86159$ae7f96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <003201c86159$ae7f96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <479D4740.7010404@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > Where's good source to buy new gauge bezels. And how do you get that > odometer reset stem off. Is the screw peened over? > It seems like the simplest stuff is taking me way to much time to finish. The odo reset stem has a small roll pin holding it on. I think I used a 4d finish nail to drive it out. You can also drill it our and use a suitable pin, even a cotter will work. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 20:10:52 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:10:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801271909m39a4f5e9u705689779817970c@mail.gmail.com> References: <479D00CC.7050900@comcast.net> <137704.4175.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910801271909m39a4f5e9u705689779817970c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net> derf wrote: > Subaru service is bad here. The only dealer in town is in a complex > that isn't as nice as some used car dealers. > Parts take forever to arrive. > Just something to check in your area before investing in one. > The kid up the block had an 02 WRX, it died in 03 under warranty, it was in and out of the shop for 18 months before they finally took it back saying it was terminal. They could not fix it, they tried everything and replaced everything. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 20:20:09 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:20:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net> Message-ID: <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > in and out of the shop for 18 months before they > finally took it back > saying it was terminal. They could not fix it, they > tried everything and > replaced everything. I told the service manager to try taking off the radiator cap, driving a Toyota underneath it, and replacing the cap. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From vern at srvinet.com Sun Jan 27 20:24:24 2008 From: vern at srvinet.com (vern at srvinet.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:24:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] seats Message-ID: <479D4AE8.5050900@srvinet.com> I sure could use some guidance on Bugeye seats. There just don't seem to be any good used ones on Ebay or any place that don't go for an arm and a leg. I would be willing to use midata seats, but don't quite understand which ones will work good. The racing style ones are by far the cheapest,but I am not sure how they will fit. I have looked though the Archives, but can't seem to find definitive info. Anyone one used them and which ones? Somewhere I saw that someone had used Pontiac Fiero seats. VErn -- See my 59 bugeye 78 MGB 79 midget RB at: http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/ From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 20:29:36 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:29:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net> <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> I just hope me experience is better. As for Toyotas, I have to say that everyone I have had was a winner. On 1/27/08, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- Frank Clarici wrote: > > in and out of the shop for 18 months before they > > finally took it back > > saying it was terminal. They could not fix it, they > > tried everything and > > replaced everything. > > I told the service manager to try taking off the > radiator cap, driving a Toyota underneath it, and > replacing the cap. > > Ron > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgrowler at aol.com Sun Jan 27 20:42:09 2008 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:42:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar X-Type (Was: Suburu ???) Message-ID: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> Frank wrote: "Jag X type. Style, performance, AWD and it ain't japanese. OK it's a Ford but made in the UK with a UK engine." Was the 3.0 a UK engine? My Dad had an '02 X-type with the 2.5 and he found it amusing that his engineB was made at Ford's Cleveland Casting plant, shipped to England to be put in the car, then he picked theB whole thing up at a Jag dealer in Cleveland just down the road from the casting plant. He loved the car but sold it to my sister when he wanted the garage space for a Miata. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From dmg at bossig.com Sun Jan 27 20:46:53 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:46:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net>, <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <479CDFAD.15541.278B1E8@dmg.bossig.com> 1999 Subaru Legacy Outback - loaded! Dealer services performed at recommended intervals. At 5,000 the engine developed bad piston slap. Short block replaced under warranty. I saw the old piston... I had never seen slipper pistons with that short a skirt. Bad engine vibration at 700, 1400, 2100 rpm... never fixed. Piston slap came back at 42,000 -- out of warranty period... not fixed! Developed a flat on #2 cam lobe -- out of warranty Got rid of car at 63,000!!! - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 20:50:39 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:50:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> References: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net> <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801271950s5816ad35gfcb6692594065876@mail.gmail.com> I just bought a 2000 Tacoma Prerunner. So far, great little truck. From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 27 20:51:52 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:51:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Reservations for the 50th References: <53895.58671.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0801270942id973cb4wd1f87332d2c23504@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012601c86161$1e695280$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> Or split the diff with black car with BRG & Yellow strips!!!???!!!??? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 21:09:00 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:09:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <640422.19769.qm@web36813.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We bought a new Legacy wagon in '95 that gave us excellent service for 8+ years. The only thing that ever let us down was the alternator - and that was my fault for letting the battery go too long before replacing it... Never had a Toyota. With very few exceptions, they seem pretty boring. Nobody will deny they are reliable, but so are most refrigerators, and who gets excited over them? OK, OK -Legacy wagons aren't all that exciting, but the Subie was a relatively fun car and perfect when you consider we wanted AWD, four doors, room for the dog and camping gear, and the all-important five speed tranny. The choice was even easier when you threw our limited new car budget into the buying decision. - David Bill Gilroy wrote: I just hope me experience is better. As for Toyotas, I have to say that everyone I have had was a winner. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 27 21:14:58 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:14:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar X-Type (Was: Suburu ???) In-Reply-To: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> References: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <479D56C2.9040706@comcast.net> kgrowler at aol.com wrote: > Was the 3.0 a UK engine? My Dad had an '02 X-type with the 2.5 and he found it > amusing that his engineB > > was made at Ford's Cleveland Casting plant, shipped to England to be put in > the car, I had an 02 2.5, the engine was definitely UK made. Holden I believe. I loved that car, quick, handled like a Sprite, and snow was never an issue as I thought I was stuck in an 18" snow bank but the car just drove right out. Now I have an S type, it's Ok but does not handle like the X -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nory1 at adelphia.net Sun Jan 27 21:23:29 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:23:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC Message-ID: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> Okay, which of you guys was it????? ---------- Thief lifts male enhancement drugs ---------- CARLISLE, Pa. - A shoplifter, perhaps hoping for a lift, pinched about $100 worth of male enhancement aids from a drug store in Pennsylvania, police said. Carlisle, Pa., police said the man stole several bottles of Vasorect ULT pills, in addition to Stamina RX pills and a bottle of Cobra capsules from the pharmacy, the Harrisburg (Pa.) Patriot-News reported. The drugs are considered aides to assist men's sexual performance, officials said. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 23:07:25 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:07:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <479D36F9.3080401@comcast.net> References: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> <479D36F9.3080401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801272207x5b5c4f1apf3db20fab997a3a3@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 27, 2008 7:59 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: but if you > have a wide ass, Is this going to degrade into personal attacks!!?? -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 23:38:56 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:38:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC In-Reply-To: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801272238y5b20bdfev673dbcc43da80731@mail.gmail.com> Hey, I'm out here in cowboy country. If we need a little help we just jab a beef growth implant in our ear along with a red tag. It's hell getting us through the pinch chutes though.... ;-) Shoot.... You non-cow people probably don't even know what I'm talkin' about. Next time you buy a beef steak, think about it..... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jan 28 01:53:03 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:53:03 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank References: <003701c8615a$87148900$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <008301c8618b$31877b10$578e9751@tairswork> Is it worth buying a new one then welding in your own drain plug and breather? If it's new / unused it won't explode when you do it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:04 AM Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank > Anyone have a Bugeye gas tank in decent shape they would like to sell? > Mine > is swiss cheese at the filler neck to tank joint. > > I am tempted to buy the new one shown on eBay but I heard they oil can and > have no drain plug. > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 28 05:23:09 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:23:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801271909m39a4f5e9u705689779817970c@mail.gmail.com> References: <479D00CC.7050900@comcast.net> <137704.4175.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910801271909m39a4f5e9u705689779817970c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008201c861a8$98cb7610$ca626230$@com> There certainly seems to be a wide variety of personal experiences with Suburus. I know Bud Pazur swears by them. Peter, didn't you buy one? Some folks think BMWs are expensive difficult to repair... my experience hasn't been so (except for my 633, for which I cannot find a decent electronic troubleshooting book). The key to successful older BMW ownership is finding an honest, qualified independent shop. -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:09 PM To: Ron Soave Cc: Frank Clarici; Wm. Severin Thompson; Spridgets; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s Subaru service is bad here. The only dealer in town is in a complex that isn't as nice as some used car dealers. Parts take forever to arrive. Just something to check in your area before investing in one. From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 28 05:27:01 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:27:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar X-Type (Was: Suburu ???) In-Reply-To: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> References: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> Message-ID: <008301c861a9$28aa5d00$79ff1700$@com> I could see going for the Jag X if I could pick one up at the bottom of the resale value curve, and just drive the hell out of it for 5 years. What's the consensus about the 2.5 versus the 3 litre motors? What's the weakness in the cars? (besides being a Ford) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgrowler at aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar X-Type (Was: Suburu ???) Frank wrote: "Jag X type. Style, performance, AWD and it ain't japanese. OK it's a Ford but made in the UK with a UK engine." Was the 3.0 a UK engine? My Dad had an '02 X-type with the 2.5 and he found it amusing that his engineB was made at Ford's Cleveland Casting plant, shipped to England to be put in the car, then he picked theB whole thing up at a Jag dealer in Cleveland just down the road from the casting plant. He loved the car but sold it to my sister when he wanted the garage space for a Miata. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Jan 28 05:32:05 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:32:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC In-Reply-To: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com> (please let the record show I used a rare instance of self censorship here...) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nory Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:23 PM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC Okay, which of you guys was it????? ---------- Thief lifts male enhancement drugs ---------- CARLISLE, Pa. - A shoplifter, perhaps hoping for a lift, pinched about $100 worth of male enhancement aids from a drug store in Pennsylvania, police said. Carlisle, Pa., police said the man stole several bottles of Vasorect ULT pills, in addition to Stamina RX pills and a bottle of Cobra capsules from the pharmacy, the Harrisburg (Pa.) Patriot-News reported. The drugs are considered aides to assist men's sexual performance, officials said. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 05:46:05 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:46:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cowboy Joke * Read at your own risk * No LBC * Humor * Hit Delete * Hit "Add to Junk Email List" * Anti Texas * Etc. * Very Poor Taste Message-ID: <5f00d9910801280446u50f43c9fi44ffafdb927c716e@mail.gmail.com> Two cowboys, one from Colorado, one from Texas, are riding fence line (Checking the fences for you city folk) They come upon a sheep with his head stuck in the fence. The Colorado cowboy gets down off his horse and has his way with the sheep. (Yuck, I know, but these are cowboys and I hear they do such things) He asks the Texas cowboy "You wanna get youself some of this?" The Texas cowboy says "Sure!" and gets down off his horse and sticks his head in the fence. I guess you could change it up a little for LBC content: "A Spridget driver and a Fiat driver are driving through the English countryside............" From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 05:50:40 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:50:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Better Joke, Still no LBC but probably good enough to redeem the last joke. Message-ID: <5f00d9910801280450y65f8a8e2u55a1b5b26576d4c4@mail.gmail.com> God and Adam are hanging out before the fall. Adam asks: Why did you have to make Eve so soft? God says: I made her that way so you would like her. Adam asks: Why did you have to make Eve so curvy? God says: I made her that way so you would like her. Adam asks: Why did you have to make Eve so pretty? God says: I made her that way so you would like her. Adam asks: Why did you have to make Eve so stupid? God says: I made her that way so she would like you. From nory1 at adelphia.net Mon Jan 28 06:25:32 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC In-Reply-To: <008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com> References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> <008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com> Message-ID: <2D042CF6-133B-4164-B7C3-30BE735FA895@adelphia.net> Now guys, I notice it happened in Carlisle. C'mon, I know some of you have been there once or twice........ > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of > Nory > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:23 PM > To: Spridgets List > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC > > Okay, which of you guys was it????? > > ---------- Thief lifts male enhancement drugs ---------- > > CARLISLE, Pa. - A shoplifter, perhaps hoping for a lift, > pinched about $100 worth of male enhancement aids from a > drug store in Pennsylvania, police said. Carlisle, Pa., > police said the man stole several bottles of Vasorect ULT > pills, in addition to Stamina RX pills and a bottle of > Cobra capsules from the pharmacy, the Harrisburg (Pa.) > Patriot-News reported. The drugs are considered aides to > assist men's sexual performance, officials said. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 28 06:48:09 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:48:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank Message-ID: <22640246.1201528089270.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Then where is the fun and intrigue? jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Guy R Day >Sent: Jan 28, 2008 3:53 AM >To: Phil Nase , 'Spridgets' >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank > >If it's new / unused it won't explode when you weld it. From bpazur at excel.net Mon Jan 28 06:59:05 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:59:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Subarus Message-ID: <200801281359.m0SDx5Ov011080@green.excel.net> I do. I have had no trouble with my '02 WRX (and I drive it pretty hard). I spent $600 on an extended warranty for the WRX and never even got to use it. Only problem I have had with the '00 Outback was the radiator, and they replaced it for free even tho it was out of warranty. And my '92 was running good when I got rid of it last year, and never had any major problems (it was just getting too rusty from starting it's life in Cleveland OH). I guess it just the luck of the stack-up of tolerances, or lack thereof. Bud Pazur WST writes: There certainly seems to be a wide variety of personal experiences with Suburus. I know Bud Pazur swears by them. Peter, didn't you buy one? From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:07:28 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:07:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Seats Message-ID: <811688.78292.qm@web34210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Vern, I just picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '96 for $150.00. Black, cloth, no rips or tears and minor rust on the seat pan. They were asking $250 then $200 at the "Auto Recycling Center". I pushed and offered $150 and the guy took it. 2000+ seats are supposed to be thinner in the seatbacks. I decided on cloth over leatehr, tired of sweating my butt off on leather / vinyl. I have not installed seats yet but after talking to 4-5 Spridget folks who installed them they were happy wit hthe fit. Biggest caution is brake line runs directly under on of the logical mounting points so be careful where you drill. Miata Seat Brackets sit on an angle, you could mount directly to the floor but for best mounting build yourself 4 brackets . I found this link. See http://ye-beast.com/Spitfire/Beast_Folder/Beast_Tech/Seat_Talk.html for a link to a blueprint for a bracket designed for a Spitfire Install but looks like it would work for a Spridget as well. Classic Motor Sports used Miata Seats in their resoration and they built a bracket to use the same mounting holes as the Spridget does already. Have not got that far yet in my installation but will be ready by Spring. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From bpazur at excel.net Mon Jan 28 06:48:31 2008 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:48:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Subarus Message-ID: <200801281348.m0SDmV7A024271@green.excel.net> I do. I have had no trouble with my '02 WRX (and I drive it pretty hard). I spent $600 on an extended warranty for the WRX and never even got to use it. Only problem I have had with the '00 Outback was the radiator, and they replaced it for free even tho it was out of warranty. And my '92 was running good when I got rid of it last year, and never had any major problems (it was just getting too rusty from starting it's life in Cleveland OH). I guess it just the luck of the stack-up of tolerances, or lack thereof. Bud Pazur WST writes: There certainly seems to be a wide variety of personal experiences with Suburus. I know Bud Pazur swears by them. Peter, didn't you buy one? From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 07:27:32 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 06:27:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Replacing A -Post Message-ID: <648853.69046.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I pulled of the lower portion DS A-Post skin and it is totally ugly underneath. Will need to replace the entire A post and do some work even on the backing skin. Have not got to PS yet but I know skin on that side needs to be replaced. Not sure about A-Post but may get lucky there. Question is this, I read through my Practical Classics Reto Guide and looked at all the pics thoroughly. Can't seem to tell which side the A posts were spotwelded to the backing skin. Did they weld from inside the footwell meaning the A Post went on first or do I need to look closer at the A post to spot the welds. Trying to figure out which side to work from in cutting spot welds. This one is quickly becoming ugly but when I can stick a screwdriver all the way through under the lower hinge it's time for that one to come out. Upper joint on A-Pillar skin is soldered I believe. Do you take a torch to it to melt the solder. That's got to be messy. Debating wheter I can partially replace the A-Post or need to do it as a complete assembly. The idea of a complete assembly to keep hinges seems easier. Which is the easiest way to repair the A-Post , complete or partial replacement. So far I've only cut the A-Pillar skin up 6" from bottom. I do know that area where door stop check strap goes across is bent all to hell and is cracked so I need to go at least above that if I do a partial replacement. Your thoughts? Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Sprite (future Bugeye in disguise) Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 28 09:18:49 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:18:49 EST Subject: [Spridgets] MIata Seats Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/2008 7:17:57 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Vern, I just picked up a set of Miata Seats from a '96 for $150.00. Black, cloth, no rips or tears and minor rust on the seat pan. They were asking $250 then $200 at the "Auto Recycling Center". I pushed and offered $150 and the guy took it. 2000+ seats are supposed to be thinner in the seatbacks. I just installed a pair of Honda Del Sol seats in my BGT. Tight fit, but much better seats for $100 a pair. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 28 10:02:21 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:02:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <441250190801271008l5b5c534fj4da641a160f47b2c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <002101c860fa$d357db60$7a079220$@com> <71125.46460.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <441250190801271008l5b5c534fj4da641a160f47b2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080128110110.036b8b90@nosimport.com> Yeah, well the Passat is THE WORST car ever made. (but, the parts sales do help;-) PPP === At 12:08 PM 1/27/2008, Bill Gilroy wrote: >Wow, that sounds like my wife's 2002 VW Passat, I could not wait to get rid >of the POS. The final straw was oil pressure issues. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jan 28 10:07:42 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:07:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <479D36F9.3080401@comcast.net> References: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> <479D36F9.3080401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20080128110742.r9cr6pjoxs0k4c48@webmail.opentransfer.com> I keep trying to get my MGB driving friends to understand this as well. There is just more room in the Midget. In fact you can put a B seat in a Midget, but you can not put Midget seats in a B. They are too wide by a couple inches. And they wonder how my 6 foot 200 lbs frame gets in and out. I just laugh as I pass 'em on the twisties ;-) Larry Quoting Frank Clarici : > David Lieb wrote: >> (Note that I don't fit in the Big Healeys, Just the Sprite.)" > > Did you know the Big Healey is only 3inches wider at the inside of the > doors than a Sprite. Now add a 12" wide tunnel between the seats where > the Sprite has a 6" tunnel and that makes the Big one 3" narrower inside > than the little one. Same size seats, a bit more leg length, but if you > have a wide ass, the Sprite is a better car for you. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 28 11:11:06 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:11:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar X-Type (Was: Suburu ???) References: <8CA2F76E516AA8E-E4-15B6@Webmail-mg04.sim.aol.com> <479D56C2.9040706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <132601c861d9$26ef17a0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> And it's good lookin' too, Frank!! (He suprised me and showed up HERE a few months ago!! Payback, I guess!!) From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jan 28 12:44:15 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:44:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange Message-ID: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be saving for six shooter door knobs!) I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using the short cable in a 1098 car? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 28 12:48:07 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:48:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Duct tape is now available in a variety of colours. Fix your old housing. BZ From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 28 12:58:59 2008 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:58:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange Message-ID: <511717.8652.qm@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have gone to bicycle shop with the cable I want replaced. For about $4.00, I get just the one I need. Roger Cotting ----- Original Message ---- From: Timothy H. Collins To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:44:15 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be saving for six shooter door knobs!) I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using the short cable in a 1098 car? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ You are subscribed as rbc_48183 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From peter at nosimport.com Mon Jan 28 12:59:26 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:59:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080128135823.034b9080@nosimport.com> Mssrs. Smith disagree stating all 948, 1098, 1275 should be 4' 6" Peter C. ======= At 01:44 PM 1/28/2008, Timothy H. Collins wrote: >The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, >touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the >exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and >we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be >saving for six shooter door knobs!) > >I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a >speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two >cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra >length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and >instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using >the short cable in a 1098 car? > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 28 13:01:59 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:01:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: I think that you wouldn't have to worry about relative positions if you hadn't paid to use your cousin's parts. Some say that the length of your cable is unimportant and others say it does matter. Who to believe? RD ( Sorry, but I didn't have anything constructive to say. ) Well, seriously then, if I must ... I'm guessing that the only person that'll ever know about the melted cable cover is you. I would probably go with it because you know that it works ( worked? ). But, with that said, I am conscious of these 2 things that are wrong under my Midget: http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Intake025.jpg Please don't find more than 2 things wrong!!! :) >From: "Timothy H. Collins" >I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a >speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two >cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra >length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and >instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using >the short cable in a 1098 car? > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 13:20:55 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080128135823.034b9080@nosimport.com> References: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080128135823.034b9080@nosimport.com> Message-ID: The length will be greatly affected, depending on where you have the cable exit into the engine bay. If you have it exit next to the steering column, it would need to be longer, than if it were to exit with the oil pressure tube, IIRC On Jan 28, 2008 1:59 PM, Peter C wrote: > Mssrs. Smith disagree stating all 948, 1098, 1275 should be 4' 6" > Peter C. > ======= > At 01:44 PM 1/28/2008, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > > >The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, > >touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the > >exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and > >we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be > >saving for six shooter door knobs!) > > > >I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a > >speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two > >cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra > >length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and > >instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using > >the short cable in a 1098 car? > > > >Tim Collins > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jan 28 13:22:06 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:22:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange References: <511717.8652.qm@web36411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c861eb$740802b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> A few inches of heat shrink tubing slipped over the smaller speedo end of the cable, moved down to the melted area and shrunk into place, and Robert's your relative. Glen From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jan 28 14:38:05 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:38:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stock Markets - no LBC ( Asian parts? :)) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All those displaced/replaced factory workers up here in Michigan will now be able to take their $600 down to Wal-Mart and bolster "our" economy. Oh, George, come on!!! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:07 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Stock Markets - no LBC ( Asian parts? :)) Don't kill me, I'm only the messenger! :) - - - After a tumultuous week, Asian markets rallied Friday as investors took heart from Wall Street's gains overnight and positive U.S. labour market data. Traders also welcomed details of a tax rebate for American consumers announced as part of U.S. President George W. Bush's economic stimulus plan. The tax rebate will put $600 to $1,200 US in most tax filers' pockets. "The markets are reacting to news that Bush and Congress have agreed to accelerate tax rebates for U.S. consumers so they can go out and buy more exports from Asia," said Francis Lun, a general manager at Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong. from: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/01/25/asia-markets.html From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jan 28 14:43:06 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:43:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Russo and Steele auction In-Reply-To: <335359.81945.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <335359.81945.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure people up at that level are really in the same hobby. I like cars. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:35 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Russo and Steele auction Was watching for a bit today. They were auctioning Reggie Jackson's cars. The experts were estimating DOUBLE what the cars were selling for. It looks like we may have our hobby back. Ron ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Jan 28 14:51:56 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:51:56 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Carbs Message-ID: Someone wanted a set of SU's...rebuildable, from a Spridget, but I couldn't find them in the garage. Well, I found them Sunday, but I've lost your info. Write if you still want them for $25 and shipping. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jan 28 15:45:12 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:45:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange Message-ID: <68vr7k$2d7e62@email.mtu.edu> Thanks again for the help folks! The cosmetically challenged cable is, of course, the correct length. (Thanks, Peter, but what do those cough drop guys have to do with LBC's?) Glen, I did try the heat shrink suggestion, but the piece I have available was a bit too small to slide over the small end. We tight hint. I bought a 4' section of heat shrink tube directly from an electrical contractor supplier. I paid about 1/4 the price of what others want when it is cut in 6" lengths and packaged in a little bag and hung on a hook in your favorite box store. Thanks all! At 02:44 PM 1/28/2008, you wrote: >The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, >touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the >exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and >we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be >saving for six shooter door knobs!) > >I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a >speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two >cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra >length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and >instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using >the short cable in a 1098 car? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jan 28 16:09:27 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:09:27 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank References: <22640246.1201528089270.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003d01c86202$d49a5580$d2ce8556@tairswork> In one place rather than spread all around. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank > Then where is the fun and intrigue? > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Guy R Day >>Sent: Jan 28, 2008 3:53 AM >>To: Phil Nase , 'Spridgets' >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bugeye gas tank >> > >>If it's new / unused it won't explode when you weld it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 16:09:46 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:09:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Stock Markets - no LBC ( Asian parts? :)) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801281509i4d03f689l10bb016aea1d3cc6@mail.gmail.com> They've just revised the list.... To avoid nastiness the forbidden topics are now; Politics, Religion, and *Economics* ;-) Cheers!! Jim From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 28 16:17:39 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:17:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC In-Reply-To: <2D042CF6-133B-4164-B7C3-30BE735FA895@adelphia.net> References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net> <008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com> <2D042CF6-133B-4164-B7C3-30BE735FA895@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <479E6293.5030004@comcast.net> Nory wrote: > Now guys, I notice it happened in Carlisle. C'mon, I know some of > you have been there once or twice........ > I missed Carlisle this year, I was in England. So don't look at me. Besides, I don't need no stinkin drugs ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jan 28 16:26:24 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye doors Message-ID: <000601c86205$32aebc90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sunday night I was bored and looking at the driver's door. The over-beaten sheet metal could never again be flat as the passenger door, and it was bugging me. I logged onto e-bay, searched for bugeye doors and scored a pair just two hours later, 60 miles away for $25. E-bay can be pretty good for this little hobby eh? The "new" doors have been drilled to mount locks at the lower edge of the doors(goofy!), but it will be way easier to weld the quarter-sized holes shut than it would have been to flatten the bulging sheet metal of the old door. This brings up a question, since I only needed the driver's door and was thrilled to get the pair for $25, does anyone want or need a bugeye passenger door? Free if you pick it up at my place. $20,000.00 if I have to drag it to UPS. (negotiable for spridget listers). Glen Byrns (I just can't help tarting Bugsy up a bit before the Ozarks) From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 28 16:33:26 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:33:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Replacing A -Post In-Reply-To: <648853.69046.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <648853.69046.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <479E6646.30007@comcast.net> Having just done this on my 67, I found the spot welds on the fender side of the post, I had my fender off. I also cut a "U" on the inside of the lower hinges, bent the metal out of the way and made a new hinge holder plate. That part sort of floats inside so you can adjust the hinge. I have also used a piece of angle iron with the hinge screw holes drilled and tapped and just cut it to length and set it inside the post and let it float. It worked well and was probably a better design than the hinge screw plate, floating bracket to hold the plate, and thin metal tap to hold all of the above off the rocker. As for the post skin, just sheetmetal folded around the corners. Patch panels are cheap enough but the guts where the rust starts from, get expensive and there is nothing expensive in there, it's just unique. If you cut open the inside, big enough to work in there yet not past the post, cut 3 sides, fold the metal up or frontwards, make the repairs, fold the metal back and tack weld it. It all gets covered and I do believe the open gaps between the welds will let the air get in and dry it out so it doesn't rust in the future. Water gets down the windshield posts and causes this to rust out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 28 17:25:05 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:25:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net><008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com><2D042CF6-133B-4164-B7C3-30BE735FA895@adelphia.net> <479E6293.5030004@comcast.net> Message-ID: <10aa01c8620d$65df77a0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" Nory wrote: > Now guys, I notice it happened in Carlisle. C'mon, I know some of > you have been there once or twice........ > I missed Carlisle this year, I was in England. So don't look at me. Besides, I don't need no stinkin drugs ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ Frank, the drugs aren't meant to make it stink, they are meant to make it... well, never mind. LAD From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jan 28 18:19:08 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:19:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] BMW was: Re: more Suburu ??s Message-ID: <10d201c86214$f29491b0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Or get a Bentley manual and get underneath! :) They're fairly straightforward to work on. Admittedly, I haven't been inside the twin-cam four in mine ('91 318is), but at 235K, it's still going strong. The clucth, on the other hand, is almost gone... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Wm. Severin Thompson [wsthompson at thicko.com] Sent: 1/28/2008 7:23:09 AM To: derf247 at gmail.com;soavero at yahoo.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net;team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s There certainly seems to be a wide variety of personal experiences with Suburus. I know Bud Pazur swears by them. Peter, didn't you buy one? Some folks think BMWs are expensive difficult to repair... my experience hasn't been so (except for my 633, for which I cannot find a decent electronic troubleshooting book). The key to successful older BMW ownership is finding an honest, qualified independent shop. . From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 28 18:30:41 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:30:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC References: <3F4CC57D-91FC-44AB-BB38-944D89BFCCA5@adelphia.net><008401c861a9$cccd40f0$6667c2d0$@com><2D042CF6-133B-4164-B7C3-30BE735FA895@adelphia.net> <479E6293.5030004@comcast.net> Message-ID: <02fb01c86216$8fc53dd0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> That AIN'T what the Lady Di said upon your arrival at Kev's Rallye, Frank!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 28 18:45:22 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:45:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye doors References: <000601c86205$32aebc90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <036001c86218$9d0951f0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <<$20,000.00 if I have to drag it to UPS. (negotiable for spridget listers)>> Use USPS and they will also pick-up CHEAP!!! From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 28 19:04:09 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$2d6em6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <479E8999.3060603@comcast.net> Ok, I'll set everybody straight. PPP is correct, 948, 1098, and 1275s all take the same speedo cable. BUT starting in 1968 when they went to the "collapsible" steering column and the smaller speedometer, they rerouted the cable. BMC cars up thru 1967 routed the cable thru the footwell next to the steering column and to the speedo. BL with the changed column, routed the cable up to the firewall and thru it next to the choke cable, it is shorter. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lists at woozy.com Mon Jan 28 19:13:55 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:13:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <479CDFAD.15541.278B1E8@dmg.bossig.com> References: <479D47BC.4000909@comcast.net>, <243697.45988.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <441250190801271929u33c4424cq7edefeccd4f79c6f@mail.gmail.com> <479CDFAD.15541.278B1E8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <479E8BE3.20402@woozy.com> According to the guys from Car Talk , piston slap is a common problem with Subarus. I don't know why they continue to recommend them knowing that. fwiw, I used to have a Legacy wagon that would have run forever except it kept shorting out the electronic dashboard. Finally sold it after having the dash replaced 3 times. My daily driver now is an '03 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab 4x4. Great truck but it could do better in the gas mileage dept. Robert Dave G. wrote: > 1999 Subaru Legacy Outback - loaded! > Dealer services performed at recommended intervals. > At 5,000 the engine developed bad piston slap. > Short block replaced under warranty. I saw the old > piston... I had never seen slipper pistons with that short a skirt. > Bad engine vibration at 700, 1400, 2100 rpm... never fixed. > Piston slap came back at 42,000 -- out of warranty period... not fixed! > Developed a flat on #2 cam lobe -- out of warranty > Got rid of car at 63,000!!! From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jan 28 22:26:33 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080128110110.036b8b90@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <002101c86237$8316ec20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Interesting. As the original owner of a '99 Passat (wife's car, actually), with 130K on it, I'd have to disagree with you, strongly. I know several other Passat owners who've been very pleased with their cars, too. My honest assessment of the car is that, like all German cars, it suffers most from Bosch electrics. In fact, the ONLY problems we've had with it are electrical in nature, and only one of those was more than a minor irritation. It's been disabled only once (thanks Mr. Bosch), and it happened right in our driveway; at which time Volkswagen, and our local dealer covered every penny of the cost, including a loaner car. The 1.8 turbo has been absolutely delightful, although VW's "electronically adaptive" 5 speed automatic transmission is VERY good at making sure you're in the wrong gear any time you want a burst of power (the tiptronic feature is a godsend, however). The car is roomy, VERY comfortable on long trips and gets amazing gas mileage. It IS somewhat costly to maintain, however, if you choose to maintain it "by the book", which I always do. I've got my dealer service people programmed to expect me to take a proactive approach to maintenance, which means that I tend to fix/replace stuff on my cars BEFORE they fail, thereby avoiding roadside emergencies. There is only ONE mechanic that is permitted to work on our VWs, and this means that he knows our VWs, and our maintenance philosophy well, and he's been great to work with. Of course, my '98 Golf, with 242,000 miles on it, has been almost completely trouble-free. Naturally, the only problems (total of three) it's ever had were Bosch electrical components failing. It was my first NEW car in 20 years, and every time our salesman asks if I'm ready for a new one, I tell him "a new car every 20 years, whether I need it or not". I do, however, expect to replace the wife's Passat with a new Passat within the next year, just to keep her happy. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter C Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:02 PM To: Bill Gilroy; Ron Soave Cc: Spridgets; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question Yeah, well the Passat is THE WORST car ever made. (but, the parts sales do help;-) PPP === At 12:08 PM 1/27/2008, Bill Gilroy wrote: >Wow, that sounds like my wife's 2002 VW Passat, I could not wait to get >rid of the POS. The final straw was oil pressure issues. From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 21:28:38 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:28:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Virgin Experience...NO LBC what so ever. Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801282028u6cd7f1cer558b44f272d91d9f@mail.gmail.com> Had all my upper teeth extracted this morning! Why you ask...just for S&G's. (not really) For anyone interested, apart from the 'pressure' you feel as your head is being moved from the force, not a bad experience. Now I'm sporting a full 'upper'. Guess I've joined the old-farts. Herb Keep the sticky side down! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 28 22:37:43 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:37:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" info at Lake of the Ozarks! Message-ID: <43840a7e0801282137s2ff3236dubf77d5205a5b7791@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Just wanted to let everyone know that there will be lots of room for vendors at the Inn at Grand Glaize, Osage Beach, Missouri, June 26-29, 2008. We have a number already planning on attending with whatever wares they have. Everyone is welcome from the big boys all the way down to someone who just has a few Spridget parts to sell out of the boot! There is no charge for vendors but we can't furnish tables..etc. It's strictly bring it yourself or work off your tailgate. If you have special needs as a vendor we will try to accommodate as long as we have advanced warning. So don't be shy! Just let us know your special needs. Trailering a Spridget?? No sweat! We have lots of trailer parking on the south side of the Hotel parking area. There is also a car wash available there courtesy of the Inn at Grand Glaize. Oh! And there is free wireless internet at the hotel! If you think you might want to participate in the autocross, a helmet will be required. We will have a few loaners, but you'll be more comfortable if you bring your own. The Inn at Grand Glaize is filling up fast!! There aren't many rooms left so be sure and get your reservations in ASAP!! Finally.... Don't forget to pre-register online at the website!! We can't guarantee to accept your registration after June 1st so the price goes up accordingly. Remember, your registration fee isn't profit for anyone! It is all gobbled up with costs like insurance, permits, venue rentals, mailing, postage and other event costs. Our event committee is all volunteer and they thank you all for sending in your registration as early as possible... Please check the website for a lot of new updates and information: http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org or call 620-408-6877 Cheers!! Your Event Committee From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 02:12:50 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:12:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mirror source Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801290112w3bc63e75v58057dad301a9f9d@mail.gmail.com> http://www.texautomotive.com/classic_exterior_mirrors.html From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 29 06:14:19 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:14:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Insanity Test Message-ID: <110d01c86278$dbb8fb70$6401a8c0@Larry> This probably had made the rounds before, but it gets a laugh out of me every time: http://www.savageresearch.com/humor/insanityTest.html From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 29 06:23:52 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:23:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Subaru question In-Reply-To: <002101c86237$8316ec20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: One person's opinion on the best cars for winter driving: http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/winterdriving/article.aspx?cp-documentid=1408348 From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 29 07:44:23 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:44:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <002101c86237$8316ec20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080128110110.036b8b90@nosimport.com> <002101c86237$8316ec20$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com> At 11:26 PM 1/28/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >I do, however, expect to replace the wife's Passat with a new Passat >within the next year, just to keep her happy. >Bud Osbourne =============== Cool! You have my number. Baby needs new shoes. Peter C. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 29 08:52:10 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:52:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Insanity Test In-Reply-To: <110d01c86278$dbb8fb70$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <110d01c86278$dbb8fb70$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <992F03F5-604B-4588-9985-496CFA1EAF95@comcast.net> .. and you know that that the soundtrack was done for a two stroke SAAB during a race film clip of Eric Carllson.. Lester On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > This probably had made the rounds before, but it gets a laugh out > of me every > time: > > http://www.savageresearch.com/humor/insanityTest.html From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jan 29 09:33:42 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:33:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC mass merchandiser question Message-ID: <030d01c86294$b7c17550$27445ff0$@com> Anyone out there have any experience selling (especially software)to the Targets, Best Buys, Office Depots, etc. of the world? Anyone have any experience selling (especially software) to the Ingram Micros and TechDatas of the world? Please contact me off list. Thanks. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jan 29 09:44:22 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 11:44:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Side Curtain Seals Message-ID: <049d01c86296$341b25f0$6401a8c0@universal1> Does anyone have experience with the side curtain seals offered by various suppliers (especially for the Bugeye)? Or even an opinion? Or do I make them myself? Thanks, C B From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jan 29 11:17:58 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:17:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay Message-ID: <000601c862a3$46d75e90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Forgive the giant link, but this sure looks interesting if I lived on the wrong coast. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-BMC-ENGINE-HEATER-AUSTIN-MG-HEALEY-MORRIS -RILEY_W0QQitemZ330206557812QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330206557812 Glen From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 12:25:17 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> OK. I've got a set of Midget shocks all boxed-up, and ready to send to you as soon as I finish painting the car (trying to keep cash outlay below the wife's radar screen). That should help out w/kid's shoes. Now, I need to ask for some enlightenment: I'm hearing (only on this list, by the way) of horrible, unspeakable problems with all Passats. How about some specifics on what it is that has caused the problems with those Passats, so that I can figure out why I'm not having any significant problems with my wife's Passat (and so that I can tell some of my friends why they aren't having any problems with their Passats). Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:44 AM To: Bud Osbourne; 'Bill Gilroy'; 'Ron Soave' Cc: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question At 11:26 PM 1/28/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >I do, however, expect to replace the wife's Passat with a new Passat >within the next year, just to keep her happy. Bud Osbourne =============== Cool! You have my number. Baby needs new shoes. Peter C. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 29 11:32:56 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:32:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay In-Reply-To: <000601c862a3$46d75e90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: It doesn't say which engines it fits. The 948/1098 core plugs seem to fall out even without the extra expansion/contraction feature. I did have a block heater on the 1950 Plymouth though, and it always fired right up...even at minus 25 degrees. BZ From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jan 29 12:24:31 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:24:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay References: Message-ID: <001e01c862ac$92d8fc50$6401a8c0@personal> Block heaters for the win if you are north of Tenn. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Glen Byrns" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay > It doesn't say which engines it fits. The 948/1098 core plugs seem to fall > out even without the extra expansion/contraction feature. > I did have a block heater on the 1950 Plymouth though, and it always fired > right up...even at minus 25 degrees. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: > 1/28/2008 10:59 AM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 29 12:39:24 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:39:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay In-Reply-To: <001e01c862ac$92d8fc50$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: I had a block heater in my 'B way back when. It was a quick and easy replacement for the leaking frost plug. From yoonit at yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 13:27:37 2008 From: yoonit at yahoo.com (M F) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:27:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] interesting engine heater on e-bay Message-ID: <946699.54869.qm@web33115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's the one that's in my '63 Sprite. I have not tried it yet. The plug was snipped off... -michael in WI --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 29 13:53:51 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:53:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com> <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129144745.0391e3f8@nosimport.com> Today we sold 6 coils for an 02. Rear calipers for a 00, and several control arms... you know, the aluminium ones that bend at the slightest provocation. Given the ice storm we are having, I'm sure many more control arms will be moving out. We did not sell, as of yet, an air intake temp sensor for an 04... because we can't find a supplier for it. Head gaskets were popular last week. Honest, we get more calls from angry owners AND repair shops over Passats than anything else... even Kia Rios. I mean the Kia guys know what they bought. The Passat people are surprised. I'm very happy you haven't had these experiences. I wouldn't tempt fate by buying another one. Peter C. ==== At 01:25 PM 1/29/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >OK. I've got a set of Midget shocks all boxed-up, and ready to send to >you as soon as I finish painting the car (trying to keep cash outlay >below the wife's radar screen). That should help out w/kid's shoes. >Now, I need to ask for some enlightenment: I'm hearing (only on this >list, by the way) of horrible, unspeakable problems with all Passats. >How about some specifics on what it is that has caused the problems with >those Passats, so that I can figure out why I'm not having any >significant problems with my wife's Passat (and so that I can tell some >of my friends why they aren't having any problems with their Passats). >Thanks. >Bud Osbourne > >-----Original Message----- >From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] >Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:44 AM >To: Bud Osbourne; 'Bill Gilroy'; 'Ron Soave' >Cc: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question > > >At 11:26 PM 1/28/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: > >I do, however, expect to replace the wife's Passat with a new Passat > >within the next year, just to keep her happy. Bud Osbourne >=============== >Cool! > You have my number. > Baby needs new shoes. > >Peter C. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 14:17:06 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:17:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Subaru, now PPP Better than Carfax? Message-ID: <5f00d9910801291317m3241aa31p5cfafd1098258aa7@mail.gmail.com> Hey, What have you sold this week for a 2000 Toyota Tacoma? I just bought one and I like it. I'm hoping I will only have to buy things like tires, brake pads, etc. But, PPP parts sales trends might be better than Carfax reports, especially since you can total a car and have it fixed and not have it reported to Carfax. Cheers, Derf From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jan 29 14:35:33 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:35:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com><003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080129144745.0391e3f8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> You guys are making me nervous, we have an 06 VW Jetta GLI, 2.0 Turbo and the check engine light (exhaust system malfunction) just came on at 13000 miles. Last summer the AC compressor flew apart when it was 100+. And, we have had a terrible time with tire cupping even though it has be aligned twice. What else are we in for? Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter C To: Bud Osbourne Cc: 'Spridgets' ; team-thicko at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question Today we sold 6 coils for an 02. Rear calipers for a 00, and several control arms... you know, the aluminium ones that bend at the slightest provocation. Given the ice storm we are having, I'm sure many more control arms will be moving out. We did not sell, as of yet, an air intake temp sensor for an 04... because we can't find a supplier for it. Head gaskets were popular last week. Honest, we get more calls from angry owners AND repair shops over Passats than anything else... even Kia Rios. I mean the Kia guys know what they bought. The Passat people are surprised. I'm very happy you haven't had these experiences. I wouldn't tempt fate by buying another one. Peter C. ==== From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 29 14:36:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:36:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$2d7e62@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$2d7e62@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: I wonder if the RHD cable is shorter. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: January 28, 2008 5:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange Thanks again for the help folks! The cosmetically challenged cable is, of course, the correct length. (Thanks, Peter, but what do those cough drop guys have to do with LBC's?) Glen, I did try the heat shrink suggestion, but the piece I have available was a bit too small to slide over the small end. We tight hint. I bought a 4' section of heat shrink tube directly from an electrical contractor supplier. I paid about 1/4 the price of what others want when it is cut in 6" lengths and packaged in a little bag and hung on a hook in your favorite box store. Thanks all! At 02:44 PM 1/28/2008, you wrote: >The speedo cable that came with my car when I bought it from the PO, >touched the exhaust pipe sometime in its history and melted the >exterior covering. It still works fine - it's just not "pretty" - and >we know how important that is, don't we! (Otherwise Ed wouldn't be >saving for six shooter door knobs!) > >I bought a barrel of MIdget parts from a cousin which included a >speedo cable but it is 6 inches shorter. I see that M and VB have two >cables - one for 1098 and one for 1275. I can't see why the extra >length is necessary as the relative positions of the tranny and >instrument are the same (I think). What's the list wisdom on using >the short cable in a 1098 car? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From Weslake1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 29 14:43:43 2008 From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:43:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Interchange Message-ID: Hard to say when your Sprite has a Ford box, not to mention a W E S L A K E rocker cover. ME In a message dated 29/01/2008 21:37:09 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: I wonder if the RHD cable is shorter. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 29 14:52:18 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:52:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <479FA012.30300@comcast.net> Bud Osbourne wrote: > How about some specifics (passat) My wife test drove one once, that was enough for her. I was just a passenger, at least she knew enough to get back to the dealer as fast as it would go. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 29 14:53:10 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:53:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Virgin Experience...NO LBC what so ever. In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801282028u6cd7f1cer558b44f272d91d9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10801282028u6cd7f1cer558b44f272d91d9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <479FA046.9070707@comcast.net> WFO Herb wrote: > Had all my upper teeth extracted this morning! Gee I only had one replaced today. I broke it off last week. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 15:14:17 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:14:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com> <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080129144745.0391e3f8@nosimport.com> <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <441250190801291414k5c84e12dwfcc4e17dfbf41969@mail.gmail.com> With my wife's Passat the only solution to the check engine light was a piece of black tape. I am still pissed that I had the car serviced and left for WA from NJ. The check engine light came on before I was 1/2 across PA. That light tormented me. Car did ride nice and was very quiet. -g On Jan 29, 2008 1:35 PM, Mark wrote: > You guys are making me nervous, we have an 06 VW Jetta GLI, 2.0 Turbo and > the > check engine light (exhaust system malfunction) just came on at 13000 > miles. > Last summer the AC compressor flew apart when it was 100+. And, we have > had a > terrible time with tire cupping even though it has be aligned twice. What > else are we in for? > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter C > To: Bud Osbourne > Cc: 'Spridgets' ; team-thicko at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question > > > > Today we sold 6 coils for an 02. Rear calipers for a 00, and several > control arms... you know, the aluminium ones that bend at the > slightest provocation. > Given the ice storm we are having, I'm sure many more > control arms will be moving out. > We did not sell, as of yet, an air intake temp sensor for an > 04... because we can't find a supplier for it. Head gaskets were > popular last week. Honest, we get more calls from angry owners AND > repair shops over Passats than anything else... even Kia Rios. I mean > the Kia guys know what they bought. The Passat people are surprised. > > I'm very happy you haven't had these experiences. I > wouldn't tempt fate by buying another one. > > Peter C. > ==== > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 15:20:40 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:20:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129084345.035f09a8@nosimport.com> <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080129144745.0391e3f8@nosimport.com> <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: I don't know about the Jetta, but I hear the Passat requires the entire front end to be removed for the changing of the timing belt On Jan 29, 2008 3:35 PM, Mark wrote: > You guys are making me nervous, we have an 06 VW Jetta GLI, 2.0 Turbo and > the > check engine light (exhaust system malfunction) just came on at 13000 > miles. > Last summer the AC compressor flew apart when it was 100+. And, we have > had a > terrible time with tire cupping even though it has be aligned twice. What > else are we in for? > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter C > To: Bud Osbourne > Cc: 'Spridgets' ; team-thicko at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question > > > > Today we sold 6 coils for an 02. Rear calipers for a 00, and several > control arms... you know, the aluminium ones that bend at the > slightest provocation. > Given the ice storm we are having, I'm sure many more > control arms will be moving out. > We did not sell, as of yet, an air intake temp sensor for an > 04... because we can't find a supplier for it. Head gaskets were > popular last week. Honest, we get more calls from angry owners AND > repair shops over Passats than anything else... even Kia Rios. I mean > the Kia guys know what they bought. The Passat people are surprised. > > I'm very happy you haven't had these experiences. I > wouldn't tempt fate by buying another one. > > Peter C. > ==== > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 15:27:28 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:27:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Subaru, now PPP Better than Carfax? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801291317m3241aa31p5cfafd1098258aa7@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910801291317m3241aa31p5cfafd1098258aa7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190801291427x1359e8acwffc8fc9543e4706a@mail.gmail.com> That brings up an interesting idea. I would think if you sold enough parts (think NAPA) you could get a very good picture what what broke on the various cars. I don't see why the parts companies would want to mine or sell this data, but I think that a project between Edmunds and NAPA could lead to some interesting results. Not to discount the Pimp's opinions, he did tell me to sell the Passat a long time ago. I should have listened. -g On Jan 29, 2008 1:17 PM, derf wrote: > Hey, > What have you sold this week for a 2000 Toyota Tacoma? > I just bought one and I like it. I'm hoping I will only have to buy > things like tires, brake pads, etc. > But, PPP parts sales trends might be better than Carfax reports, > especially since you can total a car and have it fixed and not have it > reported to Carfax. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 29 15:47:32 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:47:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Subaru, now PPP Better than Carfax? In-Reply-To: <441250190801291427x1359e8acwffc8fc9543e4706a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <5f00d9910801291317m3241aa31p5cfafd1098258aa7@mail.gmail.com> <441250190801291427x1359e8acwffc8fc9543e4706a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129164141.039dfe90@nosimport.com> Naturally our industry has lots of sales tracking. .. especially since there are so few actual catalog database vendors. There is also a good deal of car unit sales data. I don't know if anyone's ever put it into a ratio of unit parts per vehicle, or dollars per vehicle. It would be interesting... maybe when I retire. But from an off-thecuff experienced opinion, given the number of Toyota vehicles sold vs, say VWs... I would guess that VWs of the 98-2006 era are maybe 2:1 in parts sales... maybe more? And that's units. If we talk dollars... hmmm. PPP == At 04:27 PM 1/29/2008, Bill Gilroy wrote: >That brings up an interesting idea. I would think if you sold enough >parts (think NAPA) you could get a very good picture what what broke >on the various cars. I don't see why the parts companies would want >to mine or sell this data, but I think that a project between >Edmunds and NAPA could lead to some interesting results. > >Not to discount the Pimp's opinions, he did tell me to sell the >Passat a long time ago. I should have listened. > >-g > >On Jan 29, 2008 1:17 PM, derf ><derf247 at gmail.com> wrote: >Hey, >What have you sold this week for a 2000 Toyota Tacoma? >I just bought one and I like it. I'm hoping I will only have to buy >things like tires, brake pads, etc. >But, PPP parts sales trends might be better than Carfax reports, >especially since you can total a car and have it fixed and not have it >reported to Carfax. >Cheers, >Derf >_______________________________________________ >Support >Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jan 29 16:56:12 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:56:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] clevis clips Message-ID: <479FBD1C.5090001@wi.net> OK gurus, Where does one find retaining clips for the clevis pins (MOSS # 325-150) holding the brake & clutch pedals to the m/c push rods on Sprite MkI and II (Midget MkI)? The usual suspects do not show a number. TIA, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 29 17:38:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:38:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was Subaru, now PPP Better than Carfax? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080129164141.039dfe90@nosimport.com> References: <5f00d9910801291317m3241aa31p5cfafd1098258aa7@mail.gmail.com> <441250190801291427x1359e8acwffc8fc9543e4706a@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080129164141.039dfe90@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <255183029.20080129163853@pacifier.com> Hello, before doing this kind of analysis, ... what you may find out is what brand the OWNERS work on, rather than the most reliable.. .. one would have to also have the data from DEALER shops (which they would probably NOT be willing to share for obvious reasons).. . perhaps the ones that owners work on the most are the LEAST reliable, .. perhaps not. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite National Spellling Bee Runer-Up From sprite58 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 29 17:40:50 2008 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:40:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee & England's Daniel Stapleton Message-ID: Daniel Stapleton will once again grace our shores from across the big pond May 16 through 21, 2008 to join us at SJ08. He will honor us with his vast Spridget mechanical experiences and present technical sessions throughout Sprite Jubilee. Author of "How To Power Tune Sprite and Midget" his newly revised book is soon to be out on the market bookshelves. Save a little bit of cash to purchase one of his books just in case Daniel has some of his books in hand at SJ08. Get a personalized autograph. Be sure to bring your technical questions and pick Daniel's mind about how to spruce up the mechanicals of your pride and joy. He will be with us over the entire Meet. Take a moment to view the photos Daniel has sent us to display on our website home page http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/ . You have conversed with him via email now enjoy him in person. Don't miss this exceptional opportunity! SJ08 will be here before you know it! _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 17:44:05 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:44:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <003001c862ac$ae98b700$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <200813.50580.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > list, by the way) of horrible, unspeakable problems > with all Passats. On an 04 or 05, a friend had the coil pack go almost immediately, followed by 2 transmissions under warranty. She was pursuing Lemon Law when I last saw her 2 years ago. In 6 months of ownership she had been able to drive the car for less than 1/2 the time. My son's best friend's parents got a new 06 wagon to haul their dogs, some crippling electrical problem right away. When she got it back, she was waxing it and the roof dented from pressure (she's about 5'5, 115 pounds). I read last year in Newsweek that VW was losing money on every Passat sold since '02 due to warranty repair costs. My boss's company car is an Audi A6, he's on his 2nd without issue, and I kind of thought they were sister cars. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 29 17:56:01 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:56:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Thoughts for the day... Message-ID: <479F5AA1.2179.2046090@dmg.bossig.com> Birds of a feather flock together and crap on your car. (LBC related!) When I'm feeling down, I like to whistle. It makes the neighbor's dog run to the end of his chain and gag himself. A penny saved is a government oversight. That should be enough for today... - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dmg at bossig.com Tue Jan 29 18:01:38 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:01:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee & England's Daniel Stapleton In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <479F5BF2.12745.2098798@dmg.bossig.com> There are those of us who, for whatever reason -- health, distance, family,e tc..., will not be able to make the meet. Will there be any mechanism for us to purchase items that will be avilable at the meet?? Such as autographed books?? And printed copies of the Tech Sessions ?? TIA Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA On 29 Jan 2008 at 19:40, r moses wrote: >> Daniel Stapleton will once again grace our shores from across the big >> pond May 16 through 21, 2008 to join us at SJ08. He will honor us >> with his vast Spridget mechanical experiences and present technical >> sessions throughout Sprite Jubilee. Author of "How To Power Tune >> Sprite and Midget" his newly revised book is soon to be out on the >> market bookshelves. Save a little bit of cash to purchase one of his >> books just in case Daniel has some of his books in hand at SJ08. Get >> a personalized autograph. Be sure to bring your technical questions >> and pick Daniel's mind about how to spruce up the mechanicals of your >> pride and joy. He will be with us over the entire Meet. Take a moment >> to view the photos Daniel has sent us to display on our website home >> page http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/ . You have conversed with him >> via email now enjoy him in person. Don't miss this exceptional >> opportunity! SJ08 will be here before you know it! From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 29 18:33:17 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:33:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install Message-ID: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> Does anybody have a secret to installing the window waist seals and those &$@*ing clips? Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not so curved. Is there a way to cut the glass in half so it's out of the way so I can get to the clips then glue the glass back? The window does not fit down the hole with the seals in place. The clips will not go on with the window in the hole. I really believe it is easier to cut off the outer door skin, install the window seal clips, weld up the door and repaint the car. It would save a lot of time. Maybe if I bought the "correct" clips instead of the clips sold for the seals from VB cause they don't fit the seal let alone the seal and the metal. Some mindless idiot had to do this at the factory, I wish I knew how he did it. Maybe I am trying too hard. How to's would be extremely welcome. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 18:52:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:52:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install In-Reply-To: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20879.7439.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Does anybody have a secret to installing the window > waist seals We usually ask Frank. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 29 18:58:36 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:58:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install References: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <043101c862e3$a0c432d0$0201a8c0@midget> > Does anybody have a secret to installing the window waist seals and > those &$@*ing clips? You might try some of the suggestions at http://tinyurl.com/25ubo3 Or not... From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jan 29 19:00:32 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:00:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install In-Reply-To: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> References: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003f01c862e3$e5dc7df0$b19579d0$@com> This is how I got it to work. Yes a real PITA and some sore hands. 1) Install outer seal and clips. You can't get to the clips when glass is in. 2) Insert glass. 3) Fit inner seal ( I think from top) 4) Open up clips a bit and fit from bottom with needle nose and screwdriver. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:33 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install Does anybody have a secret to installing the window waist seals and those &$@*ing clips? Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not so curved. Is there a way to cut the glass in half so it's out of the way so I can get to the clips then glue the glass back? The window does not fit down the hole with the seals in place. The clips will not go on with the window in the hole. I really believe it is easier to cut off the outer door skin, install the window seal clips, weld up the door and repaint the car. It would save a lot of time. Maybe if I bought the "correct" clips instead of the clips sold for the seals from VB cause they don't fit the seal let alone the seal and the metal. Some mindless idiot had to do this at the factory, I wish I knew how he did it. Maybe I am trying too hard. How to's would be extremely welcome. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Tue Jan 29 19:20:14 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:20:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY References: <25455931.1201382413216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22> Message-ID: <007c01c862e6$a660eff0$6401a8c0@Music> I'm hi bidder, don't one of you dogs go snipping me...LOL Jon > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Datsun-210-2dr-Hatchback-Classic-Parts-or-project_W0QQitemZ110217562175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Too far away for me to consider, > Kent (Cosmic Mag 1380) > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jan 29 19:28:03 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY References: <25455931.1201382413216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22> <007c01c862e6$a660eff0$6401a8c0@Music> Message-ID: <00af01c862e7$c01072d0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Jon, Thanks for the tip, I am going to be in Palmdale with an empty trailer next week! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Paschke" I'm hi bidder, don't one of you dogs go snipping me...LOL Jon > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Datsun-210-2dr-Hatchback-Classic-Parts-or-project_W0QQitemZ110217562175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Jan 29 20:06:46 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:06:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] clevis clips References: <479FBD1C.5090001@wi.net> Message-ID: <002a01c862ed$26511b80$6401a8c0@personal> Autozone or such. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] clevis clips > OK gurus, > > Where does one find retaining clips for the clevis pins (MOSS # 325-150) > holding the brake & clutch pedals to the m/c push rods on Sprite MkI and > II (Midget MkI)? The usual suspects do not show a number. > > TIA, > Dave > 59 :{) > 59 MGA 1500 > 05 MCS > Burlington WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: > 1/28/2008 10:59 AM From lists at woozy.com Tue Jan 29 20:10:33 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:10:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install In-Reply-To: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> References: <479FD3DD.3010304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <479FEAA9.1090000@woozy.com> I replaced the seals on my Midget this summer. For whatever it's worth I made a j hook out of an old hose clamp to hold the clips. I also used a flat screwdriver to just slightly pry the clips open before trying to put them on. Once I figured out the system it took me about 30 minutes per door to do the seals. Robert Frank Clarici wrote: > Does anybody have a secret to installing the window waist seals and > those &$@*ing clips? > Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not > so curved. > Is there a way to cut the glass in half so it's out of the way so I can > get to the clips then glue the glass back? > The window does not fit down the hole with the seals in place. > The clips will not go on with the window in the hole. > I really believe it is easier to cut off the outer door skin, install > the window seal clips, weld up the door and repaint the car. It would > save a lot of time. > Maybe if I bought the "correct" clips instead of the clips sold for the > seals from VB cause they don't fit the seal let alone the seal and the > metal. > Some mindless idiot had to do this at the factory, I wish I knew how he > did it. > Maybe I am trying too hard. > How to's would be extremely welcome. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 21:12:23 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:12:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <200813.50580.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c862f6$50f576c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Yeah, I remember hearing about a problem with the coil packs on the first cars to be equipped with them. But, VW certainly wasn't the only German brand that used them. Of course, there will have been a factory recall on them, and Bosch will have rectified the problem, by now. I seriously doubt that VW is loosing money on every Passat made since '02. I'm sure they've been able to recover a lot of their warranty expenses from Bosch. I've heard similar horror stories about certain BMW and Mercedes models. One thing I learned, long ago, about VWs (and I've worked as a VW dealer salesman, a LOOOOOOONG time ago, and have friends working in VW agencies), is to never buy a new VW model until it's been out for at least a year or two. They almost ALWAYS have a lot of problems with newly introduced models, dating back to the ball joint front suspension on the '66 beetle. Re: the Audi A6 being a sister car of the Passat.....It's the A4 that is the Passat sister car. My father-in-law has owned several A6s, and they are awesome cars. But the Audi he liked the best was an early 90s model 90 CS Quattro. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 7:44 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > list, by the way) of horrible, unspeakable problems > with all Passats. On an 04 or 05, a friend had the coil pack go almost immediately, followed by 2 transmissions under warranty. She was pursuing Lemon Law when I last saw her 2 years ago. In 6 months of ownership she had been able to drive the car for less than 1/2 the time. My son's best friend's parents got a new 06 wagon to haul their dogs, some crippling electrical problem right away. When she got it back, she was waxing it and the roof dented from pressure (she's about 5'5, 115 pounds). I read last year in Newsweek that VW was losing money on every Passat sold since '02 due to warranty repair costs. My boss's company car is an Audi A6, he's on his 2nd without issue, and I kind of thought they were sister cars. Ron From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Jan 29 20:28:46 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:28:46 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Cars Message-ID: In a message dated 1/29/2008 5:57:06 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I think that a project between Edmunds and NAPA could lead to some interesting results. No profit motive to NAPA to share this info. If it led to less people buying the cars that break, their sales would go down. Cars that never need repair parts are not attractive to NAPA. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 29 20:42:03 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:42:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <001301c862f6$50f576c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <314420.89279.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bud Osbourne wrote: > I seriously doubt that VW is loosing money on every > Passat made since > '02. I may have read that in one of my SAE trade journals. Newsweek actualy said VW is losing on every car sold - http://www.newsweek.com/id/104440 Now, there's ways to make money by losing money (spreading overhead allocations, opening balance sheet adjusments when re-organizing, etc.) but they really aren't sustainable business models. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 29 20:57:20 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:57:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question References: <314420.89279.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <044c01c862f4$36fde3d0$0201a8c0@midget> > Newsweek actualy said VW is losing on every car sold - > http://www.newsweek.com/id/104440 Now lets be accurate here. The article actually says, "VW loses money on every car it ships to the United States, where sales are plunging." They might be making it up on European sales. Or not. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jan 29 20:58:06 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:58:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Window waist install In-Reply-To: <479FEAA9.1090000@woozy.com> Message-ID: <20080130035809.QZSW25788.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Exactly- Another list member and myself have traded bloody knuckle stories over this lately. Personally I still think it's easier if you take the door off and attempt it horizontally. OK that sounds bad, but unless you have disassembled a door and rebuilt it 2 or 3 times, please refrain from any Miata kind of references. Yeah, we have the books, but how the heck did they get those on while on the assembly line? Chris 66MKIII 200 528iT http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismanuel -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:11 PM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Window waist install I replaced the seals on my Midget this summer. For whatever it's worth I made a j hook out of an old hose clamp to hold the clips. I also used a flat screwdriver to just slightly pry the clips open before trying to put them on. Once I figured out the system it took me about 30 minutes per door to do the seals. Robert Frank Clarici wrote: > Does anybody have a secret to installing the window waist seals and > those &$@*ing clips? > Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not > so curved. > Is there a way to cut the glass in half so it's out of the way so I can > get to the clips then glue the glass back? > The window does not fit down the hole with the seals in place. > The clips will not go on with the window in the hole. > I really believe it is easier to cut off the outer door skin, install > the window seal clips, weld up the door and repaint the car. It would > save a lot of time. > Maybe if I bought the "correct" clips instead of the clips sold for the > seals from VB cause they don't fit the seal let alone the seal and the > metal. > Some mindless idiot had to do this at the factory, I wish I knew how he > did it. > Maybe I am trying too hard. > How to's would be extremely welcome. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 22:10:16 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:10:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <051801c862bb$54356150$0201a8c0@DELL> Message-ID: <001501c862fe$670ed660$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Wow! Our dealership provides a loaner, free of charge, if they can't complete the work on schedule. They've been VERY good to us, and we get the same treatment, with our 9 and 10 year old VWs that we got from them when we bought the cars new. I agree, the maintenance is expensive. I'm getting ready to schedule our Passat in for CV joint service (boots starting to crack). We'll also have a couple of minor-but-annoying electrical issues looked into. I'm expecting to spend close to a thousand bucks, this time (I'll have some routine service stuff done, at the same time). But, I find it's far cheaper to keep up with the maintenance than to pay for the repairs caused by lack of maintenance. I mean, I wouldn't have to think twice about jumping in the Passat and driving across the country. I've driven the Japanese stuff (mainly Subaru), and, while they've gotten pretty good; they're still not as much of a "driver's car" as the VWs. Of course, if I weren't married, and didn't need to go to work every day, no matter what the weather; I'd drive nothing but pre-'75 MGs, and air-cooled VWs. There's something I find very appealing about a car that doesn't have to go anywhere but MY garage for service and repairs. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Branch [mailto:gjbranch at comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:10 PM To: Bud Osbourne; Peter C Cc: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question My wife has an '02 Passat wagon. It's a great driving car; one of the best in the snow I've ever driven. But the maintenance is killing us. Every little thing. And some hum-dingers too. Like the Monsoon sound system stopped working. Take the car in to the dealer for the day. Go back and notice the headliner is down and the whole interior of the car is spread around the shop. "Can't finish today. And by the way, we have to replace the entire antenna "system". $500. Never again. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 22:25:45 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:25:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: <01f401c862be$e1677060$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <001601c86300$90e2ed80$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Mark, That Jetta should be a pretty good car. The 2.0 Turbo is a damn good engine. Your warranty should take care of most of the stuff that might give you trouble. The "check engine light" has been on in my Golf, most of the time, for the last 6 or 7 years. But, at almost 242K, the engine doesn't burn a drop of oil between oil changes; the engine runs smooth and strong & gets good gas mileage. The body is still rust-free, the paint is still good, and the interior is holding up incredibly well. Since the Jetta is, in reality, a Golf (or Rabbit) with a trunk, you can see what is possible. Just follow the factory service recommendations, insist that the same mechanic work on it every time it's in for service or repairs, and you should do pretty well with it. A long-term ownership of a good car is like being married to a good woman: not everything is perfect, and you can expect some problems, and, like even the best wife, they can be expensive to maintain. But, overall, it is a very good & happy experience. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 4:36 PM To: Peter C Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW You guys are making me nervous, we have an 06 VW Jetta GLI, 2.0 Turbo and the check engine light (exhaust system malfunction) just came on at 13000 miles. Last summer the AC compressor flew apart when it was 100+. And, we have had a terrible time with tire cupping even though it has be aligned twice. What else are we in for? Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 22:30:29 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:30:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: <441250190801291414k5c84e12dwfcc4e17dfbf41969@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701c86301$3a254fa0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Yeah, my Golf is the same way, and has been for at least 150,000 miles. The first 90,000 was covered without that silly light coming on too much. The good news is that I've long since learned to ignore it. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:14 PM To: Mark Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW With my wife's Passat the only solution to the check engine light was a piece of black tape. I am still pissed that I had the car serviced and left for WA from NJ. The check engine light came on before I was 1/2 across PA. That light tormented me. Car did ride nice and was very quiet. -g From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 29 22:36:19 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:36:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001801c86302$0a42e620$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> The Jetta and the Passat are very different, in that department. The Passat's engine is positioned in the traditional fore & aft manner (and, yes, much of the front end needs to come off for access to the timing belt). The Golf/Rabbit/Jetta engines are transversely mounted. The timing belt replacement on my Golf is, literally, only a bit more than 1/10 the cost of the same thing for my wife's Passat. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:21 PM To: Mark Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW I don't know about the Jetta, but I hear the Passat requires the entire front end to be removed for the changing of the timing belt From grday at btinternet.com Wed Jan 30 04:11:03 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:11:03 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question References: <001301c862f6$50f576c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <008701c86330$cdcc08a0$2c998d56@tairswork> I have an Audi A4 V6 turbo 2.5 diesel auto Quattro as a daily drive. It is no trouble, the only time it sees a garage is at service time, the heater works, the brakes work, it will cruise happily at 100mph (selected UK motorways) and has been up to 130 with some still left to go. (Holiday drive through Germany) The only problem has been the hood catch sticking so I can't open it and that is because it never gets used except for the screenwash! It tows the trailer perfectly and I don't want to get rid of it despite it being 6 years old. It just works. I looked at Subaru before getting the Audi - as well as the X-type Jag - and the Audi won hands down. Not on price, but on drive and comfort (the Jag saleswoman was easy on the eyes but useless with information). However - the fact is that writing this will have released the gremlins that cause problems in whatever has been written about so above may be different in the future. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Ron Soave'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question > Yeah, I remember hearing about a problem with the coil packs on the > first cars to be equipped with them. But, VW certainly wasn't the only > German brand that used them. Of course, there will have been a factory > recall on them, and Bosch will have rectified the problem, by now. > I seriously doubt that VW is loosing money on every Passat made since > '02. I'm sure they've been able to recover a lot of their warranty > expenses from Bosch. I've heard similar horror stories about certain > BMW and Mercedes models. > One thing I learned, long ago, about VWs (and I've worked as a VW > dealer salesman, a LOOOOOOONG time ago, and have friends working in VW > agencies), is to never buy a new VW model until it's been out for at > least a year or two. They almost ALWAYS have a lot of problems with > newly introduced models, dating back to the ball joint front suspension > on the '66 beetle. > Re: the Audi A6 being a sister car of the Passat.....It's the A4 that is > the Passat sister car. My father-in-law has owned several A6s, and they > are awesome cars. But the Audi he liked the best was an early 90s model > 90 CS Quattro. > Bud Osbourne From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 30 07:13:34 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:13:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <001501c862fe$670ed660$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <051801c862bb$54356150$0201a8c0@DELL> <001501c862fe$670ed660$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080130081219.033d4210@nosimport.com> At 11:10 PM 1/29/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >I agree, the maintenance is expensive. I'm getting ready to schedule >our Passat in for CV joint service (boots starting to crack). We'll >also have a couple of minor-but-annoying electrical issues looked into. >I'm expecting to spend close to a thousand bucks, this time (I'll have >some routine service stuff done, at the same time). ====== Good to see it's not nickel and diming you to death..... Peter C From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 30 07:18:15 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:18:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: <001601c86300$90e2ed80$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: Well ... that's one outstanding feature over the far less well calibrated Subaru dip stick. ;) >Mark, >But, at almost 242K, the engine >doesn't burn a drop of oil between oil changes; >Bud Osbourne From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 30 07:52:00 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:52:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question References: <051801c862bb$54356150$0201a8c0@DELL><001501c862fe$670ed660$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080130081219.033d4210@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <128701c8634f$ab911f40$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Bud Osbourne" Cc: "'Spridgets'" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question At 11:10 PM 1/29/2008, Bud Osbourne wrote: >I agree, the maintenance is expensive. I'm getting ready to schedule >our Passat in for CV joint service (boots starting to crack). We'll >also have a couple of minor-but-annoying electrical issues looked into. >I'm expecting to spend close to a thousand bucks, this time (I'll have >some routine service stuff done, at the same time). ====== Good to see it's not nickel and diming you to death..... Peter C _______________________________________________ For the last 10 years or so my daily drivers have been Toyota or Honda. The grand total of repairs over that 10 years has been one oxygen sensor. To those who denigrate Japanese cars, show me another car with the rock-solid reliability, quality and value of a Toyota or Honda and I would drive it. Hint: it's not going to be American or European. Sure, there are cars that are more fun to drive, but most of them cannot be relied on to start every single time without fail. Since I use my car for work, it must be reliable and durable. LAD From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 30 09:44:36 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:44:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c8635f$66bf11a0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Yeah, well, you know how these Germans are obsessive about precision ;) Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:18 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suburu question now VW Well ... that's one outstanding feature over the far less well calibrated Subaru dip stick. ;) >Mark, >But, at almost 242K, the engine >doesn't burn a drop of oil between oil changes; >Bud Osbourne From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 30 10:04:45 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <128701c8634f$ab911f40$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000b01c86362$3746f0c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Yeah, I know the Japs build some very good, very reliable cars......but (for the most part) they're just so G-D boring to me that I refuse to own one. As far as reliability & cost of operation goes; I'll stack my '98 Golf III up against the Japs any day. By 242,000 miles, most of the Jap cars around here have turned into small piles of iron oxide, anyway. As far as the cost of running that Passat; I don't consider an occasional repair (even an expensive one) to be "nickel & diming me to death". It's just part of long term ownership of what has been, overall, a very satisfying car to own. It has never failed to get us where we were going, nor even given us any worry about whether or not it would get us there (the one disabling malfunction occurred in my driveway, when I tried to move it out of the way for another car.....and, yeah, that was lucky). Again, thanks, Mr. Bosch. BTW, VW later extended their warranty coverage on that particular, defective Bosch component, which was a major problem/expense for many VW owners at the time. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:52 AM To: Peter C; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Bud Osbourne" Cc: "'Spridgets'" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question Good to see it's not nickel and diming you to death..... Peter C _______________________________________________ For the last 10 years or so my daily drivers have been Toyota or Honda. The grand total of repairs over that 10 years has been one oxygen sensor. To those who denigrate Japanese cars, show me another car with the rock-solid reliability, quality and value of a Toyota or Honda and I would drive it. Hint: it's not going to be American or European. Sure, there are cars that are more fun to drive, but most of them cannot be relied on to start every single time without fail. Since I use my car for work, it must be reliable and durable. LAD _______________________________________________ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 30 09:09:27 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:09:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question Message-ID: <25392730.1201709367367.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I can't comment on all Japanese cars, but two that are like Chinese water torture to drive are Honda Accords and the Toyota Camry aka Yawnry. They ride and handle like Hostess Twinkies. They're Japanese Buicks. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >For the last 10 years or so my daily drivers have been Toyota or Honda. >The >grand total of repairs over that 10 years has been one oxygen sensor. > >To those who denigrate Japanese cars, show me another car with the >rock-solid reliability, quality and value of a Toyota or Honda and I >would >drive it. Hint: it's not going to be American or European. > >Sure, there are cars that are more fun to drive, but most of them cannot >be >relied on to start every single time without fail. Since I use my car >for >work, it must be reliable and durable. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 30 09:29:37 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:29:37 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <25392730.1201709367367.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > I can't comment on all Japanese cars After 18 years, the CRX still puts a big grin on my face. Total repairs have run about $200. My wife's 2000 Accord drives OK, but it's horribly cramped and uncomfortable. BZ From lists at woozy.com Wed Jan 30 09:52:58 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:52:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes some mighty nice guitars: I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees and sunny, just perfect. Cheers, Robert From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 30 10:16:56 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:16:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: Get the wheels, and start saving money for a REAL guitar....like maybe a Gretsch Billy Zoom model. BZ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 10:24:17 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:24:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: I have only seen the BoRox once, and I didn't pay that much attention to Henneman's guitar. That is one knob heavy rig.... He does make it sound good though!!! Soave, you got The Bottle Rockets, "24 Hours a Day", what do you think of that pickin'? On Jan 30, 2008 10:52 AM, Robert Weeks wrote: > I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this > site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes > some mighty nice guitars: > > > > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: > > > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > and sunny, just perfect. > > Cheers, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 30 10:27:42 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:27:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Reliable Cars Message-ID: <00cc01c86365$6bc61710$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Well, Larry, I don't know how many miles your ten years equates to, but the first actual new car that I bought was a 1987 Plymouth Horizon Turismo Duster with the 2.2 4-banger and a 5-speed. I only drove that one for eight years and I had a lot more problems than your Japanese cars. I had to replace the battery, a set of tires, a shifter fork in the transaxle, a timing belt, a clutch cable, the muffler twice, and the sensor in the dizzy for the points, three sets of front brake pads and two sets of shoes. All told, I suppose I spent around $500 to $600 for these items. Not nearly so impressive as yours, but that did equate to 235,000 miles on the original clutch. The only time it actually stranded me was when the timing belt broke at 202,000 miles. Heck, it was still on the original DOT3 brake fluid that I had never even had to bleed. I have no complaints other than that I could not buy another one at that point. My second new car was a 1995 Escort Wagon with the 1.9 and the 5-speed. I only put 180,000 miles on that one in seven years and I did have to replace the fuel pump and the spark plug wires as well as the tires and the timing belt. It done good by me. My third new car was a 2002 VW GTi with the VR6 and the 5-speed. My mileage has slowed down and I only have 50,400 miles on it in five years. I will need a new battery soon, I have replaced two of the tires (and acquired a second set of rims with snow tires for the winter), I have had the water temperature sender fail twice and I currently have a problem with the secondary air injection system which is probably a small hose on the front of the engine which is even more inaccessible than the water temperature sender. Strangely enough, it gets better gas mileage with the CEL on than off. If I had the sense, I would get rid of it now. Trish's daily driver is a 2001 PT Cruiser with the 2.4 and the 5-speed. We have replaced the crank angle sensor and the clutch (talk about weird clutches!!!), and the tires. About 75,000 miles. That adds up to about 540,000 miles in the last 21 years with a couple grand or so in actual repairs (not counting antifreeze, oil and gas). No, I have not had to pay someone else to fix them, but none of the repairs were any more difficult than keeping a Spridget operational. I have been more satisfied with my American cars than with my German car, but the only Japanese cars that I might be tempted to buy have been Miatas (Trish's Miata is doing fine, thank you) and a CRX (you aren't helping, Billy). If I were to find the right deal on a nice CRX... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget 1960 RWA Bugeye From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 10:34:23 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:34:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> On 1/30/08, Robert Weeks wrote: > > I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this > site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes > some mighty nice guitars: > > Check Mandolin Bros and Elderly Instruments. If you want an old Fender, then buy an old Fender.... Nah.... Get the wheels. Billy is right. I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: > > See above. This one looks just like (except for color) my original 1960 Telecaster. Personally, if I were in the market for a good electric guitar I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm I'd much rather have a nice original Martin D-45 Dreadnaught. Suits my playing style. Cheers!! Jim It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > and sunny, just perfect. > > Cheers, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 30 10:44:41 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:44:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Obviously, you know your guitars. BZ > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > I'd much rather have a nice original Martin D-45 Dreadnaught. From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 30 10:56:20 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:56:20 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Window seals Message-ID: In a message dated 1/29/2008 9:42:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not so curved. I'm interested in this because I just ordered these for the MGB from Moss. We'll see if Moss' clips are any better than VBs. I planned on making a J hook, and your comment about it not being magnatized makes me wonder...would that help? If so, just take a length of insulatd copper wire and wind it around the J hook, hold one end of the wire to a battery post of a hot battery and strike the other end to the other post a couple of times. I used to magnatize my screw drivers this way. Hope this helps and hope you get some great hints I can use this weekend. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 30 11:02:38 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:02:38 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Window seals Message-ID: In a message dated 1/29/2008 9:42:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: You might try some of the suggestions at http://tinyurl.com/25ubo3 Or not... Looked like some good ideas. I'll try the hacksaw blade trick myself. The last hint sounded good if I could descipher the britspeak... sm white, Colerne Wilts, United Kingdom p clip, just bend it in a loop at the bottom , bril works every time... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jan 30 11:05:04 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:05:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares Message-ID: I need to buy a flaring tool to make some 45-degree Girling-style bubble flares in new brake line. Can I do the job with a regular double flare flaring tool by just not doing the second step of the double flare process? Tool prices are all over the place. I don't need a tool for repeated shop use, but I don't want to get stuck swearing at junk. Searching the web, I found lots of variability in price (and probably quality)-for example: http://www.cozycabin.com/index.php?gcsiteid=2183&gccid=2682019&&gcst=fla ring%20tool&gcstype=false So, any recommendations? Thanks! JohnD From lists at woozy.com Wed Jan 30 11:17:06 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:17:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> Hey all, Just to clarify, I currently own the following guitars: Gibson Les Paul Custom w/Bigsby Gibson ES335 Fender US Telecaster with B-Bender Fender Mid 80's Jap-o-caster 1940s Silvertone Hollow body electric Martin D18 Johnson Banjo Ibanez Classical No name lap steel Regal Dobro I know a thing or two about guitars and that combination of a lightweight tele with Lollar P90 , Lollar tele bridge and Bigsby is a sweet combo. As far as Gretschs go, no offense Billy but if I got a Gretsch it would be the Reverend Horton Heat 6120: http://tinyurl.com/2vxkk2 I just can't see paying more for a guitar than I did for my MG. Especially now that I've "retired" from playing out. I also like the idea of supporting small independent guitar builders. If I had the balls I'd quit my job and try my hand at that or something similar myself. Robert Jim Johnson wrote: > On 1/30/08, Robert Weeks wrote: > >> I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this >> site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes >> some mighty nice guitars: >> >> >> > > > Check Mandolin Bros and Elderly Instruments. If you want an old Fender, > then buy an old Fender.... > Nah.... Get the wheels. Billy is right. > > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > >> the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: >> >> >> > > > See above. This one looks just like (except for color) my original 1960 > Telecaster. Personally, if I were in the market for a good electric guitar > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > I'd much rather have a nice original Martin D-45 Dreadnaught. Suits my > playing style. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > >> and sunny, just perfect. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Wed Jan 30 11:14:55 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:14:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: Them guitars look pretty nice. But why did he photograph that one on the bathroom floor? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Robert Weeks Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: spridgets net Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes some mighty nice guitars: From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 11:14:48 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:14:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> Message-ID: Speaking of lap steel, Colin Brooks from the Band of Heathens, is in need of a case for his no name lap steel. Any ideas where one can get gotten for a reasonable cost? On Jan 30, 2008 12:17 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Hey all, > > Just to clarify, I currently own the following guitars: > > Gibson Les Paul Custom w/Bigsby > Gibson ES335 > Fender US Telecaster with B-Bender > Fender Mid 80's Jap-o-caster > 1940s Silvertone Hollow body electric > Martin D18 > Johnson Banjo > Ibanez Classical > No name lap steel > Regal Dobro > > I know a thing or two about guitars and that combination of a > lightweight tele with Lollar P90 , Lollar tele bridge and Bigsby is a > sweet combo. > > As far as Gretschs go, no offense Billy but if I got a Gretsch it would > be the Reverend Horton Heat 6120: > > http://tinyurl.com/2vxkk2 > > I just can't see paying more for a guitar than I did for my MG. > Especially now that I've "retired" from playing out. > > I also like the idea of supporting small independent guitar builders. If > I had the balls I'd quit my job and try my hand at that or something > similar myself. > > Robert > > > Jim Johnson wrote: > > On 1/30/08, Robert Weeks wrote: > > > >> I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this > >> site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes > >> some mighty nice guitars: > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Check Mandolin Bros and Elderly Instruments. If you want an old Fender, > > then buy an old Fender.... > > Nah.... Get the wheels. Billy is right. > > > > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > > > >> the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > See above. This one looks just like (except for color) my original 1960 > > Telecaster. Personally, if I were in the market for a good electric > guitar > > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > > > I'd much rather have a nice original Martin D-45 Dreadnaught. Suits my > > playing style. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > > > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > > > >> and sunny, just perfect. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Robert > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jan 30 11:40:11 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:40:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> Message-ID: <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> I believe these folks were sewing soft instrument cases at one time. They do contract sewing so they may not have that work any longer. Contact them, they may give you more info. But a Stormy Kromer hat while visiting their site. . . Oh, never mind. You're in TX. :-) http://www.jacquarts.com/index.cfm At 01:14 PM 1/30/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >Speaking of lap steel, Colin Brooks from the Band of Heathens, is in need of >a case for his no name lap steel. Any ideas where one can get gotten for a >reasonable cost? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 30 11:43:19 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:19 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Buicks Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:12:46 AM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: They're Japanese Buicks I see where Buick sells more cars in China now than in the US.... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 11:44:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:44:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: He is needing a hard case, as he tours quite a bit. Thank you for the link though!! Brad On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I believe these folks were sewing soft instrument cases at one time. > They do contract sewing so they may not have that work any longer. > Contact them, they may give you more info. But a Stormy Kromer hat > while visiting their site. . . Oh, never mind. You're in TX. :-) > http://www.jacquarts.com/index.cfm > > At 01:14 PM 1/30/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: > >Speaking of lap steel, Colin Brooks from the Band of Heathens, is in need > of > >a case for his no name lap steel. Any ideas where one can get gotten for > a > >reasonable cost? > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From duncan at pondhop.com Wed Jan 30 11:59:03 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:59:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801c86372$35992670$a0cb7350$@com> I asked this same question last year as was told definitely NO, use the proper bubble flare tool. I picked up one for about $30 which worked great. You can defiantly tell the difference in the way the flare is shaped. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John G Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:05 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares I need to buy a flaring tool to make some 45-degree Girling-style bubble flares in new brake line. Can I do the job with a regular double flare flaring tool by just not doing the second step of the double flare process? Tool prices are all over the place. I don't need a tool for repeated shop use, but I don't want to get stuck swearing at junk. Searching the web, I found lots of variability in price (and probably quality)-for example: http://www.cozycabin.com/index.php?gcsiteid=2183&gccid=2682019&&gcst=fla ring%20tool&gcstype=false So, any recommendations? Thanks! JohnD You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 30 12:01:25 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:01:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <067e01c86372$857a5e70$906f1b50$@com> A friend of mine runs Reunion Blues, the gig bag maker. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:40 PM To: Brad Fornal; Robert Weeks Cc: spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars I believe these folks were sewing soft instrument cases at one time. They do contract sewing so they may not have that work any longer. Contact them, they may give you more info. But a Stormy Kromer hat while visiting their site. . . Oh, never mind. You're in TX. :-) http://www.jacquarts.com/index.cfm At 01:14 PM 1/30/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: >Speaking of lap steel, Colin Brooks from the Band of Heathens, is in need of >a case for his no name lap steel. Any ideas where one can get gotten for a >reasonable cost? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ ________________________________________ From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Wed Jan 30 12:32:26 2008 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:32:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:44:55 AM Central Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Obviously, you know your guitars. BZ > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > Oh, make it hurt. I failed to buy a '56 TV Special in about '93 for $ 1,200 because I thought it was a lot to spend on one guitar, and I had just bought my '71 Les Paul DeLuxe goldtop a year earlier.... TuTone (right now busy stripping the poly finish off the neck of a new Epi "Dot" and applying a tung oil finish to my new 'gigging' guitar) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 12:43:12 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> Wow! You guys are all way ahead of me!! The only gig I have anymore is in my living room! Moreover, I am splitting my practice time between guitar, banjo, mandolin, fiddle and occasionally pedal steel so I'm not getting much better on any of them! Guess I should decide on a single instrument and get really good on it but I love playing all of them even if at a lower level of ability. FWIW, I don't play any rock. I play acoustic mostly - some jazz, but mostly ragtime, blues and bluegrass. No offence, Billy, but if I could be anyone, I'd be Leon Redbone or Geoff Muldaur. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Jan 30, 2008 1:32 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:44:55 AM Central Standard Time, > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > Obviously, you know your guitars. > BZ > > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > > > Oh, make it hurt. I failed to buy a '56 TV Special in about '93 for $ > 1,200 because I thought it was a lot to spend on one guitar, and I had just > bought my '71 Les Paul DeLuxe goldtop a year earlier.... > > TuTone (right now busy stripping the poly finish off the neck of a new Epi > "Dot" and applying a tung oil finish to my new 'gigging' guitar) > > > > ------------------------------ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapein the new year. > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Jan 30 13:16:59 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:16:59 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Window seals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004301c8637d$123abbc0$0d01a8c0@Laptop> The J hook works well, but needs to be slim enough to get down beside the seal with the glass in place. Use pieces of double sided adhesive tape in the J hook to hold the clip in place. Position the clip and give it a sharp upward pull to set it in position. Don't attempt to open out the clip first or it will simply be loose and not do its job properly. The key to making this job quick and simple is the double sided tape. Each door can then be done easily in 15 minutes. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.t eam.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk @autox.team.net]On Behalf Of RampantNM at aol.com Sent: 30 January 2008 17:56 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Window seals In a message dated 1/29/2008 9:42:12 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Yes I have a "J" hook which would work great if it was magnetic and not so curved. I'm interested in this because I just ordered these for the MGB from Moss. We'll see if Moss' clips are any better than VBs. I planned on making a J hook, and your comment about it not being magnatized makes me wonder...would that help? If so, just take a length of insulatd copper wire and wind it around the J hook, hold one end of the wire to a battery post of a hot battery and strike the other end to the other post a couple of times. I used to magnatize my screw drivers this way. Hope this helps and hope you get some great hints I can use this weekend. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=a olcmp00300000002489 You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1251 - Release Date: 30/01/2008 09:29 From ggroiss at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 13:18:07 2008 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:18:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >FWIW, I don't play any rock. That reminds me of a quote from Missippippi Fred McDowell "I do not play no rock and roll, y'all. I just play straight an' natchel blue." You know it's "straight an' natchel blue" when you use a hollowed-out beef bone as a slide. On 1/30/08, Jim Johnson wrote: > Wow! > > You guys are all way ahead of me!! The only gig I have anymore is in my > living room! Moreover, I am splitting my practice time between guitar, > banjo, mandolin, fiddle and occasionally pedal steel so I'm not getting much > better on any of them! Guess I should decide on a single instrument and get > really good on it but I love playing all of them even if at a lower level of > ability. > > FWIW, I don't play any rock. I play acoustic mostly - some jazz, but mostly > ragtime, blues and bluegrass. No offence, Billy, but if I could be anyone, > I'd be Leon Redbone or Geoff Muldaur. ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:32 PM, wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:44:55 AM Central Standard Time, > > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > > > Obviously, you know your guitars. > > BZ > > > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > > > > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > > > > > > Oh, make it hurt. I failed to buy a '56 TV Special in about '93 for $ > > 1,200 because I thought it was a lot to spend on one guitar, and I had just > > bought my '71 Les Paul DeLuxe goldtop a year earlier.... > > > > TuTone (right now busy stripping the poly finish off the neck of a new Epi > > "Dot" and applying a tung oil finish to my new 'gigging' guitar) > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapein the new year. > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! > > For info and registration... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Jan 30 13:26:51 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> Personally, I spend all of my practice time trying to decide what album to put on. It's much easier on the fingers than a guitar ;-) I do admit that I admire greatly those that can play, but I can not read music and trying to learn the guitar was a bigger struggle for me than I had patience for. However I can control a volume knob with the best of 'em. Larry On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Wow! > > You guys are all way ahead of me!! The only gig I have anymore is > in my > living room! Moreover, I am splitting my practice time between guitar, > banjo, mandolin, fiddle and occasionally pedal steel so I'm not > getting much > better on any of them! Guess I should decide on a single instrument > and get > really good on it but I love playing all of them even if at a lower > level of > ability. > > FWIW, I don't play any rock. I play acoustic mostly - some jazz, > but mostly > ragtime, blues and bluegrass. No offence, Billy, but if I could be > anyone, > I'd be Leon Redbone or Geoff Muldaur. ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Jan 30, 2008 1:32 PM, wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:44:55 AM Central Standard Time, >> billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: >> >> Obviously, you know your guitars. >> BZ >>> I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: >>> >>> http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm >>> >> >> Oh, make it hurt. I failed to buy a '56 TV Special in about '93 >> for $ >> 1,200 because I thought it was a lot to spend on one guitar, and I >> had just >> bought my '71 Les Paul DeLuxe goldtop a year earlier.... >> >> TuTone (right now busy stripping the poly finish off the neck of a >> new Epi >> "Dot" and applying a tung oil finish to my new 'gigging' guitar) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape> >in the new year. >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June > 26-29, 2008!! > > For info and registration... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 30 13:32:52 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:32:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Buicks Message-ID: <6510700.1201725172331.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> With GM's current sales totals, that could mean they sold 25 last year. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: RampantNM at aol.com >Sent: Jan 30, 2008 1:43 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Buicks > >I see where Buick sells more cars in China now than in the US.... From gjbranch at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 13:33:48 2008 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:33:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: <05da01c8637f$6bd867c0$0201a8c0@DELL> Check out www.mapleleafmusic.com . My wife owns the place. Last week a guy came in and was playing a couple of high end guitars (no, not at the same time); couldn't decide which he liked better. Bought both. Credit card topped $13K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "spridgets net" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars >I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this > site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes > some mighty nice guitars: > > > > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 30 13:37:23 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:37:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: <25431308.1201725443104.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In honor of the King. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Hal Faulkner >Sent: Jan 30, 2008 1:14 PM >To: Robert Weeks , spridgets net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars > >Them guitars look pretty nice. But why did he photograph that one on the >bathroom floor? >Hal From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Wed Jan 30 13:42:32 2008 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:42:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/2008 2:27:28 PM Central Standard Time, lmacy at phillymgclub.com writes: However I can control a volume knob with the best of 'em. Larry That puts you one up on most of us guitar players. TuTone **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 30 13:46:46 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:46:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> <4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <133201c86381$3b954b30$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Personally, I spend all of my practice time trying to decide what album to put on. It's much easier on the fingers than a guitar ;-) I do admit that I admire greatly those that can play, but I can not read music and trying to learn the guitar was a bigger struggle for me than I had patience for. However I can control a volume knob with the best of 'em. Larry =============================== Hey, really real, real Larry, you must be a member of the old farts club, too. Whenever I mention putting an album on, my wife gently reminds me that they are called CDs. Of course, we still do have a few hundred hunks of vinyl laying around, as well. The "other" Larry From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 30 13:58:53 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:58:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com><4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> <133201c86381$3b954b30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <019801c86382$ec9d9df0$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> And I can spin vinyl, Larry!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 30 14:07:58 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:07:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com><4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> <133201c86381$3b954b30$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Whenever I mention putting an album on, my wife gently reminds me that > they are called CDs. And when LPs came out, everybody's wives told them that "albums" were what you called the books of 45rpm or 78rpm records. Face it, "album" effectively refers to a collection of music, so you could apply the name equally accurately to an ipod nano. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 14:08:56 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:08:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <019801c86382$ec9d9df0$6401a8c0@actualshop> References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> <4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> <133201c86381$3b954b30$6401a8c0@Larry> <019801c86382$ec9d9df0$6401a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: What is nice, is those bands that still insist on releasing their new music on VINYL!! The Drive By Truckers have just released their new disc, Brighter Than Creations Dark, and it is slated to be released on a two record VINYL set, soon. The last actual record I bought, was Jason Isbell's Sirens of the Ditch. It is nice that the warmth of records is still appreciated enough that they release it the way us old farts remember it being. On Jan 30, 2008 2:58 PM, wrote: > <> > > And I can spin vinyl, Larry!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 13:54:18 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:54:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No more restorations for me Message-ID: <47A2357A.2030409@comcast.net> I have had it! No more will I attempt to restore a Spridget with all the shit parts that these assholes are selling us. Door check straps that were fine last year have grown to 1/2" wider than they should be, thus they do not fit. New Hubcaps from the UK that will fit INSIDE the old ones thus making them good for frisbees. Bumper overriders that are welded 1/4" off so you have to take a grinder to them so they are close. Brake pad retainer clips that need to be files 1/16" on each side so they fit. Rubber grommets that are made from elephant dung and last damn near a whole month whether they see the light of day or not. Bonnet badge that snaps off when you try to install the clips they sell for it. (same company) 5 years ago there was a group setting standards on cheap shit reproduction parts, obviously they are still sitting on their asses and shoving garbage down our throats. It is worse now than before. At least every part I bought from Peter fits as it should and even works! What a concept! Too bad he doesn't sell the finish trim items for our cars. But then maybe he knows better. Rant over -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 26 21:47:05 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:47:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <270168.58014.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > A torsion spring above the door is out of the > question, OK well never mind. > Engineers, Ron. I'm in the shop installing Peterbuilts on the streetcar. If no one answers tonight I'll sketch it out and we'll figger something. Remember, I'm just a business unit director now, so I can't calculate, I can only tell you whether you met schedule or budget. Lynette just came out to the shop. Apparently one of the left coast listers forgot the time zones and just called and woke her up. He shall remain nameless, Buster. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 26 22:04:24 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:04:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY In-Reply-To: <25455931.1201382413216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt22> Message-ID: <20080127050449.06B1318789B@autox.team.net> The first one is a 79, while listed as a B210 it is a 210 but the ad says nothing about the tranny, even if it is a 5-speed it would be the "dog-leg" shift with the drain plug off the rear and not the bottom. The second one is in Lancaster, CA. enough said. Crash -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 1:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 210s w/trannies - Cal & NY http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=S TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130192439524&rd=1 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Datsun-210-2dr-Hatchback-Classic-Parts-o r-project_W0QQitemZ110217562175QQihZ001QQcategoryZ39405QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Too far away for me to consider, Kent (Cosmic Mag 1380) 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen You are subscribed as dwramsey at att.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 00:36:29 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:36:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> References: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190801262336i49ede5f6w9dd91a94d62e9df9@mail.gmail.com> If I read correctly the problem is that the springs don't work. I understand that to mean the the door does not go up or stay up. The problem is as I read it is that the springs are not strong enough to lift the door. With regular door door the springs do not hold that much weight since the door is horizontal on the tracks. In your new setup the spring must hold a bunch more weight. My solution would be either counter weights, sort of like a sash weight or a heavier spring. Get the physicist to do the math on what type of spring you will need. On 1/26/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Guys > > Anybody know anything about overhead garage doors with regular springs? > The scenario.... > My son bought a lift for his garage (cheap) we installed it a few months > ago and it works fine but.... > He had an 8' ceiling in his garage, he knew a good carpenter ;) and I > cut out the ceiling, installed appropriate collar ties and headers, > rewired it, added lighting, rerouted water pipes and heating ducts, > insulated the new and re-sheetrocked the roof and walls. > Now he has a 13' ceiling in the lift area. Cool! > But the original (relatively) new overhead door was smack in the middle > of where the new ceiling is. So I thought we could just do some > reworking of the tracks and make the door roll up the wall and along the > rake of the roof line. > Well it goes up on our cut/rewelded tracks but we are having a hell of a > time making the springs work. > It is a 7' high door, the ceiling was 8', now the door has to go up to > the 9' mark where the roof meets the wall then along the ceiling which > is a 6/12 pitch or 27 degree angle. > The springs now hit the rollers at the wall, the rollers have been moved > to the wall/roof line. > I mean I spent all day fabricating brackets and tracks today only to run > into this spring problem. > I think I can put in more angle iron and move the springs farther up the > ceiling, but then the cables would need to be twice as long. I really > don't want to put more holes in the fresh painted new sheetrock if this > is not going to work. > A torsion spring above the door is out of the question, no room as the > door now moves up the wall and along the cathedral ceiling. > No room for a sideways rolling door, barn doors opening out would work > but this overhead is fairly new and with all this garage renovations, > he's broke. I have financed more than my share on HIS garage for the > rights to use the lift. In fact, I spent more than he did on renovations > to the garage then he spent on the lift. > So any garage door guys on this list? > Engineers, Ron. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 00:40:14 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:40:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door help no LBC In-Reply-To: <441250190801262336i49ede5f6w9dd91a94d62e9df9@mail.gmail.com> References: <479C06A2.2070503@comcast.net> <441250190801262336i49ede5f6w9dd91a94d62e9df9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801262340j147e9cfr76a644fb290f4d1e@mail.gmail.com> On 1/27/08, Bill Gilroy wrote: > > Get the physicist to do the math on what type of spring you > will need. > Easy. A BIG HONKIN' SOB. Try doubling up with another set of springs? -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Jan 27 02:56:58 2008 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:56:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Skelton midget triumph Message-ID: <459660.60960.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> triumph the verb....not the marque. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l50Ip9SzLNs --------------------------------- Make the switch to the world's best email. Get the new Yahoo!7 Mail now. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 27 16:45:55 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 17:45:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports Message-ID: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> I was wondering whether any of you guys read Andy Reid's column on page 29 of the current issue (March 2008) of Classic Motorsports. He starts out explaining that, being 6'4" tall, there are a lot of cars that he would love to own that simply are not comfortable. He goes on with a list of such cars, including various Ferraris, Mercedes, Lamboghinis, pre-C5 Corvettes, Alfas, Triumphs, MGBs, Miatas, etc. I was a little miffed that he hadn't bothered to mention Spridgets. Then I got a couple paragraphs further and found this bit of text: "With the exception of the XK8 and XK Coupes, as a rule Jaguar sports cars are too tight. Fortunately there are many other British classics that are comfortable for me -- astoundingly the MG Midget and Austin-Healey Sprite are on that list. (Note that I don't fit in the Big Healeys, Just the Sprite.)" Works for me ;-) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 27 16:55:29 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:55:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] more Suburu ??s In-Reply-To: <479D00CC.7050900@comcast.net> Message-ID: <137704.4175.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > Jag X type. Style, performance, AWD and it ain't > japanese. Seriously - that might not be a bad idea - they have the single worst retail value after 3 and 5 years, so you may actually be able to get one for that $200. Subaru Hatin' Soave ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 27 17:57:40 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:57:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Andy Seipos in Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <034801c8613e$c2608070$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: If he's 6'4", and can't fit into an Alfa, that must have been his width rather than height. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jan 28 16:26:24 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye doors Message-ID: <000601c86205$32aebc90$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sunday night I was bored and looking at the driver's door. The over-beaten sheet metal could never again be flat as the passenger door, and it was bugging me. I logged onto e-bay, searched for bugeye doors and scored a pair just two hours later, 60 miles away for $25. E-bay can be pretty good for this little hobby eh? The "new" doors have been drilled to mount locks at the lower edge of the doors(goofy!), but it will be way easier to weld the quarter-sized holes shut than it would have been to flatten the bulging sheet metal of the old door. This brings up a question, since I only needed the driver's door and was thrilled to get the pair for $25, does anyone want or need a bugeye passenger door? Free if you pick it up at my place. $20,000.00 if I have to drag it to UPS. (negotiable for spridget listers). Glen Byrns (I just can't help tarting Bugsy up a bit before the Ozarks) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 11:44:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:44:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> <47A0BF22.8070200@woozy.com> <69cq7p$2fmjof@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: He is needing a hard case, as he tours quite a bit. Thank you for the link though!! Brad On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I believe these folks were sewing soft instrument cases at one time. > They do contract sewing so they may not have that work any longer. > Contact them, they may give you more info. But a Stormy Kromer hat > while visiting their site. . . Oh, never mind. You're in TX. :-) > http://www.jacquarts.com/index.cfm > > At 01:14 PM 1/30/2008, Brad Fornal wrote: > >Speaking of lap steel, Colin Brooks from the Band of Heathens, is in need > of > >a case for his no name lap steel. Any ideas where one can get gotten for > a > >reasonable cost? > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 12:43:12 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:43:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> Wow! You guys are all way ahead of me!! The only gig I have anymore is in my living room! Moreover, I am splitting my practice time between guitar, banjo, mandolin, fiddle and occasionally pedal steel so I'm not getting much better on any of them! Guess I should decide on a single instrument and get really good on it but I love playing all of them even if at a lower level of ability. FWIW, I don't play any rock. I play acoustic mostly - some jazz, but mostly ragtime, blues and bluegrass. No offence, Billy, but if I could be anyone, I'd be Leon Redbone or Geoff Muldaur. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Jan 30, 2008 1:32 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 1/30/2008 11:44:55 AM Central Standard Time, > billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > > Obviously, you know your guitars. > BZ > > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > > > Oh, make it hurt. I failed to buy a '56 TV Special in about '93 for $ > 1,200 because I thought it was a lot to spend on one guitar, and I had just > bought my '71 Les Paul DeLuxe goldtop a year earlier.... > > TuTone (right now busy stripping the poly finish off the neck of a new Epi > "Dot" and applying a tung oil finish to my new 'gigging' guitar) > > > > ------------------------------ > Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shapein the new year. > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 16:05:42 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Suburu question In-Reply-To: <008701c86330$cdcc08a0$2c998d56@tairswork> References: <001301c862f6$50f576c0$6401a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <008701c86330$cdcc08a0$2c998d56@tairswork> Message-ID: <47A102C6.2070903@comcast.net> Guy R Day wrote: > Jag saleswoman was easy on the eyes but useless with information). My Jag Saleswoman was not only pleasing to the eye, had an English accent (in the States) she knew her stuff. I was impressed with her automotive knowledge and told her so when she told me very sternly that She was from Coventry, her father worked for Triumph. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 16:13:45 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:13:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com><4F1D4FB0-93A8-48DA-B393-07A1C0E82918@phillymgclub.com> <133201c86381$3b954b30$6401a8c0@Larry> <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >> Whenever I mention putting an album on, my wife gently reminds me that >> they are called CDs. Not when you stumble on a 20 yard dumpster full of perfect vinyl albums :) When I put on an album, it's vinyl. And it just sounds better to my aging ears than the same collection on a CD. Now will all my old music on my 8 track tapes sound as bad as I remember when I finally get the 67 finished complete with 8 track tape deck. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 16:20:44 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:20:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Window seals In-Reply-To: <004301c8637d$123abbc0$0d01a8c0@Laptop> References: <004301c8637d$123abbc0$0d01a8c0@Laptop> Message-ID: <47A1064C.2030307@comcast.net> My J hook tool is homemade out of a strip of aluminum. so I could not magnetize it. But a shot of spray glue and one door is finished. I need a day or so before I attempt the other door. Now for that busted off 5/16 tap in the sway bar mount. I don't know which problem cause the most pain, suffering, or words to be yelled. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 16:22:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Buicks In-Reply-To: <6510700.1201725172331.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6510700.1201725172331.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47A106AE.309@comcast.net> type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: > With GM's current sales totals, that could mean they sold 25 last year. Has anyone else noticed GM is NOT using "We'll be there" in their ads anymore. Hmmmm -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jan 30 16:27:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:27:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> References: , <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>, <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> Vynil LP's have audio (an analogue signal) recorded as a physical analogue track in the vynil. CD's take the audio and record it encoded as a digital representation - bits and bytes. To my ears, CD's have more "Brilliance" but LP's (and analogue tape) have more "Warmth" I now put on my asbestos suit... ;-)) On 30 Jan 2008 at 18:13, Frank Clarici wrote: >> When I put on an album, it's vinyl. And it just sounds better to my >> aging ears than the same collection on a CD. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jan 30 16:27:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:27:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> References: , <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>, <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> Vynil LP's have audio (an analogue signal) recorded as a physical analogue track in the vynil. CD's take the audio and record it encoded as a digital representation - bits and bytes. To my ears, CD's have more "Brilliance" but LP's (and analogue tape) have more "Warmth" I now put on my asbestos suit... ;-)) On 30 Jan 2008 at 18:13, Frank Clarici wrote: >> When I put on an album, it's vinyl. And it just sounds better to my >> aging ears than the same collection on a CD. - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 30 16:32:09 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:32:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> References: <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080130173118.03917458@nosimport.com> At 05:27 PM 1/30/2008, Dave G. wrote: >Vynil LP's have audio (an analogue signal) recorded as a physical analogue >track in the vynil. >CD's take the audio and record it encoded as a digital representation - bits >and bytes. > >To my ears, CD's have more "Brilliance" but LP's (and analogue tape) have >more "Warmth" > >I now put on my asbestos suit... ;-)) ============ Be better if you put on your spell checker....... ;-) Peter C. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 30 16:36:38 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:36:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: <13767356.1201736198740.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> That clears it up for me! Thanks! jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Peter C >Sent: Jan 30, 2008 6:32 PM >To: dmg at bossig.com, Spridget List >Cc: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars > >At 05:27 PM 1/30/2008, Dave G. wrote: > >>Vynil LP's have audio (an analogue signal) recorded as a physical analogue track From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Jan 30 16:37:28 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:37:28 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Guitar on the bathroom floor.. Message-ID: In a message dated 1/30/2008 4:25:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: In honor of the King. Ahh, those immortal last words..."Ungh, corn?" Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From dmg at bossig.com Wed Jan 30 16:38:42 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:38:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080130173118.03917458@nosimport.com> References: , <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com>, <7.0.1.0.2.20080130173118.03917458@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <47A09A02.17573.1F825F3@dmg.bossig.com> Eye halve a spelling checker It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My checker tolled me sew. On 30 Jan 2008 at 17:32, Peter C wrote: >> >I now put on my asbestos suit... ;-)) >> ============ >> Be better if you put on your spell checker....... ;-) - Dave G, KK7SS '65 MKIII Sprite, Richland, WA From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 16:51:44 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:51:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080130173118.03917458@nosimport.com> References: <003001c86384$313ca4f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <47A104A9.80809@comcast.net> <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080130173118.03917458@nosimport.com> Message-ID: OUCH!! On Jan 30, 2008 5:32 PM, Peter C > > > Be better if you put on your spell checker....... ;-) > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bugi1960 at gmail.com Wed Jan 30 17:08:12 2008 From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:08:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gauge restoring Message-ID: <001301c8639d$5f48c900$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> My gauges are in pretty good shape except the bezels need some rechroming. While I have them apart is there anything else I can do to keep them working well. I plan to clean up the dials, replace O rings etc but should I put a drop of oil on the speedo gears for instance? Is there only one O ring in each gauge between the glass and bezel? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 30 17:39:42 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:39:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Buicks References: <6510700.1201725172331.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <13b101c863a1$c56e6510$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Buicks With GM's current sales totals, that could mean they sold 25 last year. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ ============================== I see that Autoweek is reporting that Isuzu is bugging out of the good ole U.S. of A. after only selling 7098 cars here in all of last year. The funny thing is that I didn't even know they were still here. 7098 cars. What is that -- about the number Toyota or Honda sell every day? Adios. LAD From kgrowler at aol.com Wed Jan 30 17:40:50 2008 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:40:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 8-Tracks Message-ID: <8CA31B90FFACC02-E38-A6C@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Frank said: <<>> Yes they will. Especially all that clacking and racket as it changes tracksB in the middle of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida... Better drown it out with your right foot. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 17:47:33 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:47:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <428841.76936.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Brad Fornal wrote: > Soave, you got The Bottle Rockets, "24 Hours a Day", > what do you think of > that pickin'? I'm partial to BZ's on "Beyond and Back", although there could have been more of it. Maybe on the upcoming tour I might even get to finally hear my favorite X BZ riff live on "The Have Nots".... Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 30 17:51:51 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:51:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 8-Tracks In-Reply-To: <8CA31B90FFACC02-E38-A6C@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA31B90FFACC02-E38-A6C@mblk-d48.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <005601c863a3$7998b850$6cca28f0$@com> 8 track format, designed by the same guy that did the Lear Jet. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kgrowler at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:41 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 8-Tracks Frank said: <<>> Yes they will. Especially all that clacking and racket as it changes tracksB in the middle of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida... Better drown it out with your right foot. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 30 18:01:49 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0801301143l3833f6fer5238489a2ce3b688@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <508308.73658.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jim Johnson wrote: > FWIW, I don't play any rock. I play acoustic mostly > - some jazz, but mostly > ragtime, blues and bluegrass. No offence, Billy Breaking my "Thou shalt not pimp" resolution....Skip 1 cup of coffee tomorrow and get 99 cents ready. Go to iTunes. Search "Ramonetures". Download "Adult Books" off the "Featuring Billy Zoom" album. The lead instrument is not rock guitar. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 30 18:03:45 2008 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:03:45 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars Message-ID: <25127269.1201741425689.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I don't know, I'm still partial to The Brothers Gibb http://youtube.com/watch?v=KP3EXq2rg2U jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave >I'm partial to BZ's on "Beyond and Back", From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 30 18:23:13 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:23:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" To: "spridgets net" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:52 AM Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees and sunny, just perfect. Cheers, Robert _______________________________________________ Beautiful this morning here, too. Minus 12 degrees and minus 40 wind chill. Perfect January weather in Paradise. One more word, Robert, and I'm going to come down there and cut a hole in your convertible top -- er, I mean hood. LAD (Right smack dab in the middle of Shangri La.) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 30 19:11:55 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:11:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: After spending $ 100 over the years for 3 or 4 flaring tools I finally bit the bullet and got the good stuff.. this is the way to go.. it's fantastic. http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=flaring%20tools Lester On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Deikis, John G wrote: > I need to buy a flaring tool to make some 45-degree Girling-style > bubble > flares in new brake line. > > Can I do the job with a regular double flare flaring tool by just not > doing the second step of the double flare process? > > Tool prices are all over the place. I don't need a tool for repeated > shop use, but I don't want to get stuck swearing at junk. > > Searching the web, I found lots of variability in price (and probably > quality)-for example: > > > > > > http://www.cozycabin.com/index.php?gcsiteid=2183&gccid=2682019&&gcst=fla > ring%20tool&gcstype=false > > > > So, any recommendations? > > > > Thanks! > > JohnD From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jan 30 20:05:25 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:05:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0976B.31408.1EE052D@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: > CD's take the audio and record it encoded as a digital representation - bits > and bytes. Modern vinyl has to be digitized before mastering because none of the mastering houses are set up to master from analog tape...assuming you somehow managed to find analog tape and a tape recorder to record your album in the first place. IMHO, a well mastered CD sounds more like the original master than vinyl ever did. It's all a matter of perspective. Do you want it to sound like it did in the studio when they mixed it, or do you prefer to hear what had to be done to the sound to squeeze it onto a vinyl record? It's all a compromise. Note: If you routinely listen to mp3s with earbuds, you're not even allowed an opinion. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 30 20:56:57 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:56:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Baby Boomers Song Titles Message-ID: <03ee01c863bd$538282d0$6401a8c0@actualshop> In light of thew "musical theme" of today this is rather "timely"!! It was fun being a baby boomer... until now. Some of the artists of the 60's are revising their hits with new lyrics to accommodate aging baby boomers. They include: Herman's Hermits--- Mrs. Brown, You've Got a Lovely Walker. Ringo Starr--- I Get By With a Little Help From Depends. The Bee Gees--- How Can You Mend a Broken Hip. Bobby Darin--- Splish, Splash, I Was Havin' a Flash. Roberta Flack--- The First Time Ever I Forgot Your Face. Johnny Nash--- I Can't See Clearly Now. Paul Simon--- Fifty Ways to Lose Your Liver The Commodores--- Once, Twice, Three Times to the Bathroom. Marvin Gaye--- Heard It Through the Grape Nuts. Procol Harem--- A Whiter Shade of Hair. Leo Sayer--- You Make Me Feel Like Napping. The Temptations--- Papa's Got a Kidney Stone. Abba--- Denture Queen. Tony Orlando--- Knock 3 Times On The Ceiling If You Hear Me Fall. Helen Reddy--- I Am Woman, Hear Me Snore. Leslie Gore--- It's My Procedure, and I'll Cry If I Want To. And my favorite: Willie Nelson--- On the Commode Again From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Jan 31 10:10:25 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:10:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar and Rover sold.. Message-ID: I heard on NPR this morning that Ford had agreed to sell Jaguar and Rover to Tata, the carmaker in India that is supposed to bring us the $2500 car. wow! I could afford a $2500 Jaguar! I know Frank won't like it but I've always loved Tatas, especially the big ones. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Jan 31 10:16:32 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:16:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Hey Jay...you rent out the Innocenti? Message-ID: I was reviewing a trade journal today and found this advertisement. Jay, if you'd like a copy I could mail you the magazine. _http://logisticstoday.texterity.com/logisticstoday/200801/?pg=19_ (http://logisticstoday.texterity.com/logisticstoday/200801/?pg=19) Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 11:44:35 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:44:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Daniel (1320) Stapleton coming to Jubilee Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801311044v490e9e27wce886e78032cceef@mail.gmail.com> Hi Chums, I've just booked my flight for the Sprite Jubilee & Carlisle Imports. I should arrive earlier enough on the Friday to get freshened up and get a drink in the bar. I'll be at Carlisle Sat and some of Sunday (hope to get to church Sunday morning) and be at the Meet for Monday and Tuesday. I have a bit of time Wednesday morning and then fly back out of Philly at tea-time (1600 to you guys). I hope to bring a trophy or 2 to give away if I get organised in time. I have some parts to bring for one person and depending on the weight might manage to bring an A-series turbo installation to sell (probably for what I paid for - #120 so there would be a big saving on shipping for anyone buying it) My revised Spridget book might also just be out in time for the meet though at present everything is still with the publisher www.veloce.co.uk I'm looking forward to seeing everyone I met in 98 and 2003 and hope to see some of the guys that I met in 98 but didn't see in 2003. Hope to see some friends who I always see here but never at at meet! The only sad thing about this trip is that I have to come alone so won't be leaving my family in a hotel room (having a rest!) while I go out with the lads. My oldest daughter could not be released from school (exam time) and my wife now has a job at the same school. They will all have a sea-side holiday with me later in the year. I've 'blown' all my air miles on this trip (took 5 years to earn with a lot of special bonus stuff) so short of making my fortune within the next 5 years this might be the last time I get across the pond but I hope this won't be the case (you don't get rich writing books). Maybe someone could post an edited version of this to the Spridget lists. Regards Daniel Stapleton From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jan 31 11:46:42 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:46:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye door locks!! Message-ID: <200801311846.m0VIkg4a024569@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> I just picked up my E-Bay doors and discovered that Red Green must have once owned a Bugeye. The fellow I bought them from has a 59 MGA and two bugeyes. He'll be checking out the list soon I expect. He got them this way from a guy who drove a bugeye in Oakland(!!!!) Rather than do them an injustice, here's the link to see the locks in all their glory. http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t48/Glen_B/redgreendoors.jpg I like the way the inside handles are snapped off for greater security. My first thought on seeing the locks was to close the holes with the duct tape backed up with taco wrappers, but I'll probably fire up the welder tonight instead. Glen Byrns From lists at woozy.com Thu Jan 31 14:09:19 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:09:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10801311207t2d2c0fb3w5dae4d599357a2fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <2ad6c6b10801311207t2d2c0fb3w5dae4d599357a2fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47A238FF.8070403@woozy.com> Hi Herb, That particular guitar I linked to sells for $1650. I'd be replacing my wobbly, painted wire wheels with new painted wire wheels if I were to get new wheels and I'd be sending them to Hendrix Wire Wheel here in NC for truing and balancing which raises the cost of the wires a bit. I've been considering selling my current US Tele and ES335 to raise some spending money but I think I'd want to put it towards another guitar if I did that. The ES335 I've been hanging onto in case one of my boys wanted it someday. I don't really play that guitar very much. The Telecaster gets most of my attention these days. If I sold it I'd want a better Tele to take it's place. Cheers, Robert WFO Herb wrote: > Roberts, > > Does he sell his work for $1200; price of wheels. Most such > instruments I've seen run in the 5k and above range. > > Chrome wire wheels look sooo nice! > > I don't consider myself a know-all of guitars but I do have a number > of vintage (20-60's) guitars and even an old banjo and 'fiddle' thrown in. > > Personally, I'd put my money in a brand-name; Fender, Gibson, Gretsch, > Martin, Guild, Epiphone. Even other makes from the 70's. > > You'll always be able to sell them more easily. > > Seeing the asking price for the Les Paul Jim posted (he's a musician) > makes me wonder what to expect from my '58 SG should I decide to > sell. Same overall condition. I know its history..."one owner"...me. > > Just my two cents. > > Herb > Keep the sticky side down! And you ax in tune. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 12:50:13 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:50:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0801300934l7ea839f6uf02b2f798ea759c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801311150v71b0b198v4a04a3316842637@mail.gmail.com> Interesting.... My '58 SG is in as good a condition. Sure wouldn't expect that kind of money from it...and I'm the original owner! Herb On Jan 30, 2008 9:44 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Obviously, you know your guitars. > BZ > > I'd favor Billy's Gretsch or this one: > > > > http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/30U-13752.htm > > > > I'd much rather have a nice original Martin D-45 Dreadnaught. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 13:07:37 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:07:37 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10801311207t2d2c0fb3w5dae4d599357a2fb@mail.gmail.com> Roberts, Does he sell his work for $1200; price of wheels. Most such instruments I've seen run in the 5k and above range. Chrome wire wheels look sooo nice! I don't consider myself a know-all of guitars but I do have a number of vintage (20-60's) guitars and even an old banjo and 'fiddle' thrown in. Personally, I'd put my money in a brand-name; Fender, Gibson, Gretsch, Martin, Guild, Epiphone. Even other makes from the 70's. You'll always be able to sell them more easily. Seeing the asking price for the Les Paul Jim posted (he's a musician) makes me wonder what to expect from my '58 SG should I decide to sell. Same overall condition. I know its history..."one owner"...me. Just my two cents. Herb Keep the sticky side down! And you ax in tune. On Jan 30, 2008 8:52 AM, Robert Weeks wrote: > I know that some of you might be interested in this. I came across this > site the other day when I was wasting time on the net. This guy makes > some mighty nice guitars: > > > > I'm wrestling with whether I should spend money on 4 new wire wheels for > the Midget or if I should take that money and get me one of these: > > > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > and sunny, just perfect. > > Cheers, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jan 31 14:57:16 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:57:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Airbus 380 Message-ID: Here is a 360 view inside the Airbus 380 if you have Flash Player on your computer. http://www.gillesvidal.com/blogpano/cockpit1.htm Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 14:58:24 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Ewing Lester) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:58:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Where is Shangri?? is that down South close to Metairie La?? lester Here in Shreveport,LA with a nice 51 deg sunny day.. On Jan 30, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Weeks" > To: "spridgets net" > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:52 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars > > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > and sunny, just perfect. > > Cheers, > > Robert > _______________________________________________ > > Beautiful this morning here, too. Minus 12 degrees and minus 40 > wind chill. > Perfect January weather in Paradise. > > One more word, Robert, and I'm going to come down there and cut a > hole in > your convertible top -- er, I mean hood. > > > LAD (Right smack dab in the middle of Shangri La.) From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Jan 31 15:10:18 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:10:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu Message-ID: In a message dated 1/31/2008 2:50:39 PM Mountain Standard Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I see that Autoweek is reporting that Isuzu is bugging out of the good ole U.S. of A. after only selling 7098 cars here in all of last year. So that's why their pick ups have been on sale around here... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 15:22:00 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:22:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: References: <47A0AB6A.5030504@woozy.com> <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801311422r464782d9l6318d1740dc794a9@mail.gmail.com> Suburb of Los Angeles, I think ;-) Jim On Jan 31, 2008 3:58 PM, Ewing Lester wrote: > Where is Shangri?? is that down South close to Metairie La?? > > lester > > > Here in Shreveport,LA with a nice 51 deg sunny day.. > > On Jan 30, 2008, at 7:23 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Weeks" > > To: "spridgets net" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:52 AM > > Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC -Guitars > > > > > > It was mighty nice driving the Midget to work this morning. 45 degrees > > and sunny, just perfect. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Beautiful this morning here, too. Minus 12 degrees and minus 40 > > wind chill. > > Perfect January weather in Paradise. > > > > One more word, Robert, and I'm going to come down there and cut a > > hole in > > your convertible top -- er, I mean hood. > > > > > > LAD (Right smack dab in the middle of Shangri La.) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 15:25:30 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:25:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar and Rover sold.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I wonder how big you can get your wife a Tata's, for $2500 On Jan 31, 2008 11:10 AM, wrote: > I heard on NPR this morning that Ford had agreed to sell Jaguar and Rover > to > Tata, the carmaker in India that is supposed to bring us the $2500 car. > wow! I could afford a $2500 Jaguar! > > I know Frank won't like it but I've always loved Tatas, especially the big > ones. > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 15:48:20 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:48:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar and Rover sold.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47A25034.9060208@comcast.net> RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > I know Frank won't like it but I've always loved Tatas, especially the big > ones. I like my tatas french fried. I also like sweet tatas. But if Jag is selling out to India, just wait til you see the electrics in that car! Think Lucas parts from India, not 1/2 as good as the box they come in. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 15:52:12 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:52:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye door locks!! In-Reply-To: <200801311846.m0VIkg4a024569@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> References: <200801311846.m0VIkg4a024569@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <47A2511C.8050305@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > I like the way the inside handles are snapped off for greater security. > My first thought on seeing the locks was to close the holes with the duct > tape backed up with taco wrappers, but I'll probably fire up the welder > tonight instead. Glen What, your bondo skills not good enough? Welder, who needs a welder when Taco bell makes great patch panels. I will say, they fit alot better than what you can buy. ;) Too bad you didn't live closer, I picked up 6 Bugeye doors at that auction a couple weeks ago. 2 are shot, 4 are perfect. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 15:59:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:59:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite door locks Message-ID: <47A252CA.8040406@comcast.net> Why did somebody bother with the keyed locks on a Bugeye? Even on later Spridgets if you want to get in, just undo a couple snaps on the top, reach in and unlock the door. 1st rule of owning a convertible car.... Never EVER lock the car because the thief will just slash the top to steel your radio. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 31 16:25:41 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:25:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SPM content (for a change) M'aidez! Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080131172538.0394f958@nosimport.com> Listerati, Need a pic of a known correct radiator and hose plumbing on a 76 1500 Midget. Mange tak Peter C. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 16:59:44 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:59:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No more restorations for me In-Reply-To: <47A2357A.2030409@comcast.net> References: <47A2357A.2030409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910801311559s5ac6841dif8fef68b89d7b76@mail.gmail.com> If you were to work your magic on a few classic Mustangs, Camaros, and Vettes we could all retire on the proceeds from the BJ auctions. Let me be the first to offer to back Frank's Classic Car Restorations. There is a guy here in BR selling Eleanor Mustang clones for over $100k. You should REALLY look into full time restorations, even if you only do British cars for collectors on demand. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 17:00:36 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:00:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910801311600p14b02e9eh629e4b44d9465540@mail.gmail.com> They still make engines for many other companies like GM. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 31 17:06:11 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:06:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite door locks In-Reply-To: <47A252CA.8040406@comcast.net> References: <47A252CA.8040406@comcast.net> Message-ID: Or your cassettes. :( ( Many years ago. Don't worry. It was a Fiat. ) -----Original Message----- 1st rule of owning a convertible car.... Never EVER lock the car because the thief will just slash the top to steel your radio. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 31 17:32:54 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:32:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite door locks References: <47A252CA.8040406@comcast.net> Message-ID: <14c201c86469$fc883df0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite door locks Why did somebody bother with the keyed locks on a Bugeye? Even on later Spridgets if you want to get in, just undo a couple snaps on the top, reach in and unlock the door. 1st rule of owning a convertible car.... Never EVER lock the car because the thief will just slash the top to steel your radio. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ I used to have a 65 Sting Ray convertible. The driver's side door lock only worked if it damn well felt like it. I never got it fixed for that very reason. I had to hold my breath every time I parked the thing as I figured it would take all of 15 seconds to steal it. 17, if the door was locked. LAD From dmeadow at juno.com Thu Jan 31 18:10:41 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:10:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar and Rover sold.. Message-ID: <20080131.191042.3024.3.dmeadow@juno.com> I was discussing this with the wife earlier. She was asking, if the legendary Jaguar engine had a DOHC head, will the Tata version have a DOT head? I love that woman. David Littlefield On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:10:25 EST RampantNM at aol.com writes: > I heard on NPR this morning that Ford had agreed to sell Jaguar and > Rover to > Tata, the carmaker in India that is supposed to bring us the $2500 > car. > wow! I could afford a $2500 Jaguar! > > I know Frank won't like it but I've always loved Tatas, especially > the big > ones. > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 31 18:33:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:33:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Jaguar and Rover sold.. References: <20080131.191042.3024.3.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <060301c86472$6e8ddf60$6401a8c0@actualshop> <> As well you should, David!! As well you should!!! She don't need no stinkin' cams!!!! LOL From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 31 19:05:12 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:05:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget Message-ID: I sent this earlier, but it is not clear whether or not it got through. I have returned home, but the offer below still stands. I am now proud owner of two 1275 engines, one standard transmission, and (I think) two Datsun 210 5-speed transmissions. There are two because the first one I bought was punctured by a forklift getting it out, so the guy found a buddy with two more, slightly cheaper as a pair. That is also how I ended up with two engines and a transmission, when I was shopping for one. Some of this will be for sale when I figure things out. Let me know if you are interested. But I still don't have a car. The way things are going, it is clear that I am going to end up with two of them, cheaper by the pair. I really don't know how I am going to get that one past my wife. A big thanks to Spridgets member Gary Mayer, who tried to check out a car for me in Virginia Beach, VA. The seller did not respond while Gary was there, so I still would like to check his car. Gary wins a case of macadamia nuts. I am currently in Honolulu, and can offer another case of macadamia nuts to anyone close to Fresno CA, or New Richmond, OH and willing to check out purportedly rust-free cars. The one in Fresno looks particularly enticing at $1750, but shipping would be >$1500. :-( ??How about two cases of macadamia nuts?? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From lbcs at embarqmail.com Thu Jan 31 19:56:25 2008 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:56:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [TR] Thrust Washers Message-ID: <001901c8647e$0944a650$0200a8c0@bills> This was a discussion on the TR list. Look at that picture - then notice the newspaper article the thrust washers are sitting on. See - We ARE all the same TRs, MGs, or AHs. An LBCer is a LBCer. :) -----Original Message----- To: triumphs list Subject: Re: [TR] Thrust Washers My engine has these, from Racestorations: http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj14/TR250Tom/100_4258.jpg They are pictured with an OEM thrust washer for comparison. Greater area, better material, but fits in the original location with no machining, and can still be replaced from below with the crankshaft in place. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 19:59:34 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:59:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Beautiful this morning here, too. Minus 12 degrees > and minus 40 wind chill. > Perfect January weather in Paradise. So naturally I drove the Alfa AND the Bugeye, but I waited until just now since it's snowing at an inch an hour. I'm getting some minor touch up on the street Bugeye this weekend, so I needed to load it on the trailer before the imminent 8 inches of snow accumulation prevented that. So, with no cars running, I had to shuffle the race car out of the way of the green car that was in front of it in the workshop. Then the Alfa needed to move over so the race car could go in its slot, all very complicated. After wrestling with the POS wheel dollies, I finally decided to get the cars running. So a quick static time of the Bugeye, a couple of enriching turns of the SU nut flats, a Voodoo ritual over the Alfa, a hakf can of starting fluid, and Bob's your uncle. By this time it's REALLY snowing, I have to turn the Bugeye around in the driveway as I drive it into the trailer, all top down. When I finally finished and went inside, Lynette said she peeked out at one point and between the chemical smells and the other car shuffling hijinx it was like "Cheech and Chong meet I Love Lucy." Ah well. Last fun drives for a while. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 31 20:21:55 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:21:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars References: <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005701c86481$98f57100$6501a8c0@actualshop> << "Cheech and Chong meet I Love Lucy.">> And the Lovely Lynette NAILS another one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO, Ron!! Shame there ain't no pics or film!!!!! Anon From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 31 20:26:15 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:26:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <005701c86481$98f57100$6501a8c0@actualshop> References: <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <005701c86481$98f57100$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: I was thinking the same thing. -----Original Message----- From: shop at justbrits.com Shame there ain't no pics or film!!!!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 31 20:28:22 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:28:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0801311928g2a8542abu2092ff5714efbdb9@mail.gmail.com> Wow!! I'd have paid $50 to watch THAT circus!! Did you sell tickets and popcorn? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Jan 31, 2008 8:59 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Beautiful this morning here, too. Minus 12 degrees > > and minus 40 wind chill. > > Perfect January weather in Paradise. > > So naturally I drove the Alfa AND the Bugeye, but I > waited until just now since it's snowing at an inch an > hour. I'm getting some minor touch up on the street > Bugeye this weekend, so I needed to load it on the > trailer before the imminent 8 inches of snow > accumulation prevented that. So, with no cars running, > I had to shuffle the race car out of the way of the > green car that was in front of it in the workshop. > Then the Alfa needed to move over so the race car > could go in its slot, all very complicated. After > wrestling with the POS wheel dollies, I finally > decided to get the cars running. So a quick static > time of the Bugeye, a couple of enriching turns of the > SU nut flats, a Voodoo ritual over the Alfa, a hakf > can of starting fluid, and Bob's your uncle. By this > time it's REALLY snowing, I have to turn the Bugeye > around in the driveway as I drive it into the trailer, > all top down. When I finally finished and went inside, > Lynette said she peeked out at one point and between > the chemical smells and the other car shuffling hijinx > it was like "Cheech and Chong meet I Love Lucy." > > Ah well. Last fun drives for a while. > > Ron > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From pdx.pete at verizon.net Thu Jan 31 20:42:57 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:42:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars References: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0801311928g2a8542abu2092ff5714efbdb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000f01c86484$89e2ec30$37fb6846@DBKF4T81> Sno cones? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" > Did you sell tickets and popcorn? ;-) From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jan 31 20:45:41 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:45:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SPM content (for a change) M'aidez! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080131172538.0394f958@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080131172538.0394f958@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <83C33C3F-5017-411A-8671-8A521D30C2F1@phillymgclub.com> Lambert's is original. Kristi?? Larry On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Peter C wrote: > Listerati, > Need a pic of a known correct radiator and hose plumbing on a 76 > 1500 Midget. > > Mange tak > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Jan 31 21:16:57 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:16:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars References: <13cf01c863a7$d99d92d0$6401a8c0@Larry><535393.8006.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0801311928g2a8542abu2092ff5714efbdb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <016701c86489$4921d3f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> Nah Jim, Ron was only doing it so his REALLY HOT neighbor that was sitting in her "Driver's Team Bus" could watch!! Ron was just SHOWING OFF!!!!! Anon From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 31 21:26:26 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:26:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars In-Reply-To: <016701c86489$4921d3f0$6501a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <987645.34749.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: > Nah Jim, Ron was only doing it so his REALLY HOT > neighbor that was sitting in > her "Driver's Team Bus" could watch!! Ron was just > SHOWING OFF!!!!! Somehow I'm thinking she wasn't terribly impressed. No sign of Danica or her parents in many months - they're all in Arizona as I would be if I were a man of means! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 31 21:42:02 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:42:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC/LIC drives (Re: NO LBC -Guitars References: <987645.34749.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <023c01c8648c$cb21d410$6501a8c0@actualshop> <> I am SURE she would have been "impressed" with your "adroitness" AND "insanity", 'Hopper!!!!! From nory1 at adelphia.net Thu Jan 31 20:14:37 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:14:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No more restorations for me In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910801311559s5ac6841dif8fef68b89d7b76@mail.gmail.com> References: <47A2357A.2030409@comcast.net> <5f00d9910801311559s5ac6841dif8fef68b89d7b76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah! I'd pay Frank to do my Midget! What could a few taco wrappers cost anyway? On Jan 31, 2008, at 6:59 PM, derf wrote: > If you were to work your magic on a few classic Mustangs, Camaros, and > Vettes we could all retire on the proceeds from the BJ auctions. > Let me be the first to offer to back Frank's Classic Car Restorations. > There is a guy here in BR selling Eleanor Mustang clones for over > $100k. > You should REALLY look into full time restorations, even if you only > do British cars for collectors on demand. > _______________________________________________