From hal at katemuir.com  Fri Aug  1 01:55:57 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:55:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spirite Inventory part II
In-Reply-To: <200808010431.m714VYPo017805@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEJFHPAA.hal@katemuir.com>

Glen, Frank, et al,
I have a heater box and should be able to get it to Glen.  
What is the latest time table?

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Glen Byrns
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:32 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Spirite Inventory part II


Closer inspection reveals:

HAS:

Gas tank, fuel line
wire harness, regulator, fuse block, flasher
Headlamp buckets actually look fair and have trims and lights
chrome taillight bases are there and OK, Rear turns, poor no glass
front turns, poor, no glass
master cylinder and plumbing in place
cockpit and door trim fair
wiper motor and mech
full dash of gauges with elec tach and working switches
demister vents, hoses and flaps

Lacks(that I didn't list the first time)

heater box
radiator and hoses
wiper arms and bezels
exhaust for a-series

Glen
_______________________________________________

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  1 04:39:53 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 03:39:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to
 measure/trial-fittires on
In-Reply-To: <21C1277B3CCC4335A8262E3BD7B62838@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <652970.12981.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bud,
Sorry to hear about your bad experience there.  I've never been to their
facility, but bought four or five sets of tires from them when I lived in
Nashville.  Generally, my experiences were great and went like this:  I would
order a set of tires for a great price and they would deliver to my place of
work.  I'd then take the tires to my friend's recapping shop at quitting time
(with a six-pack for his crew) and I'd have four tires magically mounted,
balanced, and be on my way. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a buddy with a
shop here on Long Island where a suitable substitute mounting procedure can be
practiced...
 
I have not yet tried to buy Spridget sized tires from them.  Everything I
bought there was for a Miata, a Corrado, a Nissan pickup, or a Subie wagon.  I
always knew the sizes I was going for before-hand so never used their
suggestions for sizes.
 - David

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to
measure/trial-fittires on
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>, "Spridget List"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 4:43 PM

Bud,
They installed Sumitomo HTR200 175/70 13 tires on my 72 Midget at that
facility. Well, Actually they didn't touch my car, because it was busy
autocrossing on their test track with the Windy City Miata Club, but they
did mount and balance the tires on my Minitor rims for me... twice, since
they ignored my instructions on where they could not put weights as they
would get peeled off by the tierod end.  Unfortunately, their company
representative made such an ass of himself the at the autocross event
following day that none of my cars and none of my money will ever cross
their threshold again.

If they were to do this, I would think they would require a Bugeye, at least
one model of SWA and an RWA to do it right.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  1 05:16:31 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:16:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience
In-Reply-To: <02bc01c8f314$3608c8e0$dc03f204@spider>
References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com><05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com>
	<02bc01c8f314$3608c8e0$dc03f204@spider>
Message-ID: <677CA297-BB8B-4861-AC92-FFDDF2692191@phillymgclub.com>

I was in Seattle the year the Mariners won the SUperBowl, or was that  
the Stanley Cup?? Or maybe ........ well there was a big rally in the  
park by my hotel anyway ;-)

Larry

On Jul 31, 2008, at 9:49 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <corvallis at peoplepc.com 
 > wrote:

> We're stuck with the Mariners (baseball) in the Pacific Northwest;  
> worst
> record in baseball this year. ...bill
> ===========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On  
> Behalf
> Of Peter C
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:45 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience
>
> Anything that has style, Larry... anything.
>
> As a follow up, and to add insult to near injury.... the accelerator
> cable on the Mini broke in transit to golf!
>
> After that repair, I repaired to an establishment that serves gin and
> tonics.... to watch the Brewers loose embarrassingly again to the  
> Cubs.
>
> Today should go better.
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
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-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Fri Aug  1 06:26:01 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:26:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 15, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <mailman.20783.1217577293.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.20783.1217577293.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <6BF5F533-145B-4FD5-BED3-B253C64ED631@dartmouth.edu>

On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:54 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> We lived on Amazon Road in Mohegan Lake in '67. Drove a Corvair in  
> those
> days, and had to get thru snow up to the belly pan one night.
>
> chuck

Ah Corvairs - one of the best (winter) cars I have ever owned. Could  
drive that puppy anywhere.

I owned three - a '61 and a '64 Monza Coupes and a Lakewood ( a  
wagon ) - sold them all for my '41 Indian. I still have some misc.  
parts laying around if anyone is interested.

-m

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 08:33:22 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:33:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking brake master, near death experience
In-Reply-To: <02bc01c8f314$3608c8e0$dc03f204@spider>
References: <880459.98560.qm@web27808.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730124239.0331b1a8@nosimport.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080730142843.03565178@nosimport.com><05e301c8f2a2$7824a3b0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080731084048.03c229a0@nosimport.com>
	<02bc01c8f314$3608c8e0$dc03f204@spider>
Message-ID: <48931EB2.4070306@gmail.com>

Yeah, but you can get tickets 2 minutes before the game at the
stadium.   And they  still screw up traffic; I have to learn to watch
their  schedule.

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> We're stuck with the Mariners (baseball) in the Pacific Northwest; worst
> record in baseball this year. ...bill

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri Aug  1 09:33:24 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:33:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS: Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget NOW OT: spellcheck
References: <056C2C9E83AA4ECD92189853EB14B530@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <027d01c8f3eb$efe3d890$6a01a8c0@1705n3>

Bud,

When you say "vista's" spell check, are you referring to the spell check in 
outlook or outlook express?  It "borrows" the spell check from MS office. 
If your version of OE is relatively old, but you have office 2007, you will 
have this problem.   My OE thinks I speak French.  Fun.

Here are some ideas for a fix:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30405367/outlook-express-spell-che.aspx

Steve
1978 Midget
windows XP
office 2007 (new)
outlook express 6 (old)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to measure/trial-fit 
tires on


--big snip --

> P.S.  I know you'll ALL be so pleased to hear the the newest Microsoft PC
> operating system, Windows Vista, no longer offers English in their "spell
> check" options! 

From stevenm at optonline.net  Fri Aug  1 09:50:59 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:50:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kool!
References: <2ad6c6b10807311245r5786eb08y68397887e13f654f@mail.gmail.com>
	<48922389.2000209@b2systems.com>
	<073120082051.2015.489225BE0000E06E000007DF22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <02b301c8f3ee$64cfdfd0$6a01a8c0@1705n3>

not gonna say.  It worked fine for me at home with my cable modem.  Don't 
know how it's done but it sure is clever.  Try again.  Your name goes on the 
first line, and someone else's name goes on the second.   Then hit 
'Vizualizar' to watch the video.  Don't need to do the email address lines.

http://www.tatuagemdaboa.com.br/

Steve


>>   What does it do ? it was way too slow to load and I work at a
>> university with a super fast pipe to the net and I found it too slow to
>> even allow me to type my name.
>>
>>      mike
>>
>> WFO Herb wrote:
>> > GO TO THE FOLLOWING SITE:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  2. TYPE YOUR FIRST NAME ON THE 1st LINE
>> >
>> > 3. TYPE YOUR LAST NAME ON THE 2nd LINE,
>> >
>> > (Skip your e-mail address.)
>> >
>> > 4. Click on 'Vizualizar' and watch what happens .. 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Aug  1 10:45:55 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:45:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spirite Inventory part II
Message-ID: <d0b.2da375c0.35c497c3@aol.com>

I'm sorting out radiator hoses
 
W e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 01/08/2008 05:32:18 GMT Daylight Time,  
grbyrns at ucdavis.edu writes:

hoses

From bkitterer at mac.com  Fri Aug  1 10:53:26 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:53:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spirite Inventory part II
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEJFHPAA.hal@katemuir.com>
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFIEJFHPAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <DD66CDA5-31C6-47FA-99DE-3F5D1FA001B5@mac.com>

Expect to leave Glen's O Early Saturday morning, Aug 9.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Aug 1, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Hal Faulkner wrote:

> Glen, Frank, et al,
> I have a heater box and should be able to get it to Glen.
> What is the latest time table?

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Fri Aug  1 10:55:22 2008
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:55:22 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject:  Spirite Inventory part II
Message-ID: <002401c8f3f7$64780cc0$0202a8c0@desktop>

looking at the inventory  , why don't you just build it at Busters and drive
it up to his holiness ?
LOL

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  1 11:57:07 2008
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:57:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1970 Spridget on Craigslist
Message-ID: <912166.76423.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Seen in knoxville.craigslist.org.  No Financial interest
 
http://knoxville.craigslist.org/car/768585023.html
 
1970 MG Midget Sprite. Project car. All Parts included including full drive
train. Many new parts. Wire wheels and roll bar. Garaged. $650.00 obo. Call
Mike @865-643-2213!970 MG Midget Sprite. Project car. All Parts included
includinf full drive train. Many new parts. Wire wheels and roll bar. Garaged.
$650.00 obo. Call Mike @865-643-2213

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  1 12:12:59 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:12:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory
In-Reply-To: <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net>
References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net>
	<015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1>
	<BD61E0A964884A0C9E2DAC2B9F277308@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> 
	<489235C7.3000909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W493DF5641F833E71BB6BF9C27F0@phx.gbl>

Frank,

Is it a small or big main 1098?
I may have clutch parts depending on which it is.

Brian S.

Bugeyeracer under resto

> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:59:35 -0400

> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory

> >
> >
> I have a running 1098 coupled to a ribcase of unknown condition.
> At least it's a start.
> Any new or good used 1098 clutch parts would help too.
> I have no idea (yet) what condition the clutch is in the 1098 but I will
> look.

> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>

_________________________________________________________________
Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger.
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  1 12:13:03 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:13:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory
In-Reply-To: <489235C7.3000909@comcast.net>
References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net>
	<015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1>
	<BD61E0A964884A0C9E2DAC2B9F277308@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> 
	<489235C7.3000909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W27FD2940B7D46A1E9C24E8C27F0@phx.gbl>

Frank,

Is it a small or big main 1098?
I may have clutch parts depending on which it is.

Brian S.

Bugeyeracer under resto

> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:59:35 -0400

> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory

> >
> >
> I have a running 1098 coupled to a ribcase of unknown condition.
> At least it's a start.
> Any new or good used 1098 clutch parts would help too.
> I have no idea (yet) what condition the clutch is in the 1098 but I will
> look.

> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>

_________________________________________________________________
Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger.
http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug  1 13:13:27 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget NOW OT: spellcheck
In-Reply-To: <027d01c8f3eb$efe3d890$6a01a8c0@1705n3>
Message-ID: <003e01c8f40a$af5e43e0$6701a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Thanks, Steve.  Actually, Windows Outlook and Outlook Express have
morphed into Windows Mail, on Windows Vista operating systems.
I clicked onto a "Help" icon, which directed me to some sort of forum.
Apparently, I'm not the only one who has encountered this surprise.  Of
course, other than a whole bunch of complaint posts, on that particular
"Help" site, there was nothing in the way of Help.  So, I called the
outfit I bought the new computer from.  I explained to the "Geek" I
spoke to that I really didn't want to post my sad story on some
Microsoft forum......I wanted to reach out and CHOKE somebody!  He said
"no problem, just bring the tower into the store and they'd be happy to
correct the problem".
Well, since it was time for me to go out and mow lawn for a few hours, I
decided to wait until today to take any action.
WOULDN'T YOU JUST KNOW IT!?!?!?!?!  Suddenly, my new computer has spell
check IN ENGLISH!!!  I have NO idea what cured the problem (I guarantee
it wasn't me....at least, not deliberately ;)).
Of course, I'm back on my 10 year old Gateway computer, because the new
one can only SEND email, and not receive, from my local provider.  It's
been corrected two or three times, but the problem keeps returning.  So,
I'm about to broadcast a message, to all of my contacts, with my new
Hotmail address (abcoz at live.com).  I can only deal with so much
frustration, in one week.....
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Michelsen [mailto:stevenm at optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:33 AM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: WAS: Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget NOW OT: spellcheck

Bud,

When you say "vista's" spell check, are you referring to the spell check
in 
outlook or outlook express?  It "borrows" the spell check from MS
office. 
If your version of OE is relatively old, but you have office 2007, you
will 
have this problem.   My OE thinks I speak French.  Fun.

Here are some ideas for a fix:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/software/aspnet/30405367/outlook-express-spel
l-che.aspx

Steve
1978 Midget
windows XP
office 2007 (new)
outlook express 6 (old)

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug  1 13:38:06 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:38:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to
 measure/trial-fittires on
In-Reply-To: <652970.12981.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004701c8f40e$1f3d7520$6701a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

David,
Ive bought quite a few new tires from them, in the past 18 months (for
my Golf, wifes Passat, my 356 & Midget) and, except for the frustration
I previously described, its been all good.  Usually, I look them up on
the Tire Rack website and have my buddy order them, through his
business.  That way, he gets a modest commission, and my cost is about
the same.  This time, however, I placed the order because I knew hed be
swamped with winding down Pittsburgh Vintage GP (hes the chairman &
race director).
My conversation with TireRack.coms customer relations guy was very
satisfactory, and they will continue to get most of my tire business (at
least until my oldest son takes over running an NTB store closer to me
;)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: David Booker [mailto:tncarnut1 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 5:40 AM
To: Bud Osbourne; Spridget List; David Lieb
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to
measure/trial-fittires on


Bud,
Sorry to hear about your bad experience there.  I've never been to their
facility, but bought four or five sets of tires from them when I lived
in Nashville.  Generally, my experiences were great and went like this:
I would order a set of tires for a great price and they would deliver to
my place of work.  I'd then take the tires to my friend's recapping shop
at quitting time (with a six-pack for his crew) and I'd have four tires
magically mounted, balanced, and be on my way. Unfortunately, I have yet
to find a buddy with a shop here on Long Island where a suitable
substitute mounting procedure can be practiced...

I have not yet tried to buy Spridget sized tires from them.  Everything
I bought there was for a Miata, a Corrado, a Nissan pickup, or a Subie
wagon.  I always knew the sizes I was going for before-hand so never
used their suggestions for sizes.
 - David

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
, but they
did mount and balance the tires on my Minitor rims for me... twice,
since
they ignored my instructions on where they could not put weights as they

would get peeled off by the tierod end.  Unfortunately, their company
representative made such an ass of himself the at the autocross event
following day that none of my cars and none of my money will ever cross
their threshold again.

If they were to do this, I would think they would require a Bugeye, at
least
one model of SWA and an RWA to do it right.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973
You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug  1 13:50:22 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:50:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Rack.com needs a Spridget to
 measure/trial-fittires on
References: <004701c8f40e$1f3d7520$6701a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <F26C426446BF4D3B9436C210CF89AAAD@NilesAD.von.gov>

>>> I've bought quite a few new tires from them, in the past 18 months (for 
>>> my Golf, wife's Passat, my 356 & Midget) and, except for the frustration 
>>> I previously described, it's been all good.  Usually, I look them up on 
>>> the Tire Rack website and have my buddy order them, through his
business.  That way, he gets a modest commission, and my cost is about
the same.  This time, however, I placed the order because I knew he'd be
swamped with winding down Pittsburgh Vintage GP (he's the chairman &
race director).
My conversation with TireRack.com's customer relations guy was very
satisfactory, and they will continue to get most of my tire business (at
least until my oldest son takes over running an NTB store closer to me
;)
____________________________________________________

My issues have nothing to do with the way they sell tires. I have used their 
website and will continue to do some research on there. I think they do a 
fine job and all that. I am not suggesting that anyone should take their 
business elsewhere.

I am an autocross coordinator with the Windy City Miata Club. For the last 
several years we have had a weekend event on the test track of Tire Rack in 
South Bend, IN. One of our former members lives in the area and designs and 
sets up the track. Tire Rack has a representative who is supposed to be 
there both days to unlock the track, make a safety spech at the drivers 
meeting, etc. At the event we had two years ago, the guy never showed up on 
Saturday at all. He showed up on Sunday about 10am smelling strongly of 
beer. There were several guys from the Polish Auto Klub running with us and 
he thought that one of them was some dude that Tire Rack had banned from the 
facility (mind you, he based this on seeing a Subaru factory paintjob from 
100' away or so). So he walks across a hot track with a car coming at him to 
yell at the guy. Turns out he couldn't prove that it was the banned guy 
anyway (mighta bin, but not my problem; he was behaving itself and TR does 
not give us a list of banned people or anything). Our lead coordinator gave 
him grief for walking across a hot track in front of a car at speed and he 
got mad and decided to throw some of our guys out to show that he was the 
one in charge. He decided that the easy target was the two guys with MGs (my 
Midget and Barney's MGA), so he sat and stared at the bottom of the cars 
until he saw a drop of oil come off and threw us out because "we were 
leaking oil on the track". I don't particularly care for that action from a 
drunk. Tire Rack took the attitude that no one else wanted the job of 
hand-holding for the car clubs that use the test track on the weekends, so 
they were just going to ignore the fact that their company was being 
represented by a guy who reeked of beer on Sunday morning and ignored basic 
safety rules. I consider the situation to be an accident waiting to happen 
and I want nothing more to do with them.
David Lieb 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 14:20:38 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for carb parts..
Message-ID: <A5CBD85E-9078-4606-9EFA-E4FC2D77847D@comcast.net>

Hi all,

I'm trying to find the backing plate that has the horizontal heat  
shield and the choke mount that goes between the carbs.  Anyone?

Thanks,

Lester

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  1 18:13:16 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:13:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] genny terminals
Message-ID: <033F9CF9-061C-4E5C-A94A-47ACA55467B9@gmail.com>

I fitted a genny from a 948 engine to my 1098 because it has the  
correct tach drive that my new cables will match.  I can't determine  
which wire terminals are which.  One smaller one larger, how do I wire  
it?  Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From endicar at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 19:58:33 2008
From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:58:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions
Message-ID: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>

I've been reworking my mechanical JAEGER tach in my 62 Midget MK1 after
it froze up.  I know Smith and Jaeger were one in the same, but the dial
calibration on a Midget MK1 is different than the Smith units used in
the Bugeye or MK2 Sprite.  My car came with a repro tach reduction box.
Did Midget MK1 use the exact same tach reduction gearbox as the MK1 and
MK2 Sprite?  Also anybody know how to calibrate this thing other than
trial and error of pointer placement?  Please have a look at my work and
pictures here: www.indoorphin.com/tach

Thx, Matt

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 21:21:02 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:21:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] genny terminals
In-Reply-To: <033F9CF9-061C-4E5C-A94A-47ACA55467B9@gmail.com>
References: <033F9CF9-061C-4E5C-A94A-47ACA55467B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4893D29E.2090605@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
> I fitted a genny from a 948 engine to my 1098 because it has the  
> correct tach drive that my new cables will match.  I can't determine  
> which wire terminals are which.  One smaller one larger, how do I wire  
> it?  Thanks.
>
>
>   
Yellow/brown or the larger wire, goes to the larger terminal.
Smaller green/brown goes to the field terminal (smaller one)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bkitterer at mac.com  Fri Aug  1 21:28:07 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:28:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions
In-Reply-To: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
Message-ID: <7F39CEC1-A831-4361-A57D-53584C1B56EB@mac.com>

Nice documentation with excellent photo's.  Can't help with your  
question.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Matt Endicott wrote:

> I've been reworking my mechanical JAEGER tach in my 62 Midget MK1  
> after
> it froze up.  I know Smith and Jaeger were one in the same, but the  
> dial
> calibration on a Midget MK1 is different than the Smith units used in
> the Bugeye or MK2 Sprite.  My car came with a repro tach reduction  
> box.
> Did Midget MK1 use the exact same tach reduction gearbox as the MK1  
> and
> MK2 Sprite?  Also anybody know how to calibrate this thing other than
> trial and error of pointer placement?  Please have a look at my  
> work and
> pictures here: www.indoorphin.com/tach
>
> Thx, Matt
> _______________________________________________
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From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Fri Aug  1 22:15:48 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:15:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SpIrite inventory
References: <488A8745.8020109@comcast.net><085601c8f18e$fdb44900$6401a8c0@universal1><488F7727.90308@comcast.net><011201c8f28e$60d579a0$6401a8c0@universal1><4890F969.2090807@comcast.net>
	<015401c8f2ae$5f7280b0$6401a8c0@universal1>
	<BD61E0A964884A0C9E2DAC2B9F277308@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<489235C7.3000909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <35BEA9E80F9B4BF680C724D6BC4D96EE@DBKF4T81>

Hi, Frank

I have a wiring harness that I pulled out of a BE a couple of years ago. 
It's been sitting out in the weather for quite a while (long story) so it's 
pretty grungy. I think Paul A might have pulled a bulb holder or two off it 
but other than that it should be fairly complete. If it would be of any use 
to you just let me know the mailing address and it will be on the way.

Pete


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>

> If you have a dead Bugeye harness pulled out because you installed a new
> harness, I can make one. I have most of a MKII
> harness but some one cut off the headlight leads near the bonnet hinge.
> Any Spridget smoked harness will help.
> Semi decent headlamp buckets too.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 22:43:30 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:43:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
Message-ID: <71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>

Put the Bugeye tach back together and re sell it on ebay.
Wait until the appropriate tach shows up.

Just as you seek 62' midget tach, somewhere someone seeks a Bugeye tach,
To do anything that would upset the balance is bad kharma.

Consider the sadness of the second highest bidder of the Bugeye tach you purchased on ebay.
Likewise your sadness in a tach that is not quite right.

All is sad now..

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Endicott" <endicar at comcast.net>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions


> I've been reworking my mechanical JAEGER tach in my 62 Midget MK1 after
> it froze up.  I know Smith and Jaeger were one in the same, but the dial
> calibration on a Midget MK1 is different than the Smith units used in
> the Bugeye or MK2 Sprite.  My car came with a repro tach reduction box.
> Did Midget MK1 use the exact same tach reduction gearbox as the MK1 and
> MK2 Sprite?  Also anybody know how to calibrate this thing other than
> trial and error of pointer placement?  Please have a look at my work and
> pictures here: www.indoorphin.com/tach
> 
> Thx, Matt
> _______________________________________________
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From endicar at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 09:30:39 2008
From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:30:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
In-Reply-To: <71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
	<71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <1217691039.6525.26.camel@me-laptop>

Dean, have you no confidence in my repair work? :>)   My brother sent me
this link with lots of good
info: o;?http://home.comcast.net/~rhodes/speedo.pdf  Amazing how similar
tachs and speedo's are.  The needle on mine was clearly lubricated from
the factory.  It's kind of waxy and might be whale oil.  I will
definately follow his advise on setting the pointer needle.  Looks like
the accuracy over the dial scale is controlled more from spring tension
and magnet strength so it would seem they are not interchangeable unless
you swap magnets or springs.  Peter C. can you get new rubber gaskets
for these things?  

Next question: I'm darn tired of that damn handbrake poking my leg.
Anybody have any tips on relocating it to the right side of the tunnel?
I think it was a cruel joke played on us LHD types by the Brits who
designed it.  Notice the RHD models still have it on the left away from
the drivers leg!

Matt

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 00:43 -0400, Dean Hedin wrote:

> Put the Bugeye tach back together and re sell it on ebay.
> Wait until the appropriate tach shows up.
> 
> Just as you seek 62' midget tach, somewhere someone seeks a Bugeye tach,
> To do anything that would upset the balance is bad kharma.
> 
> Consider the sadness of the second highest bidder of the Bugeye tach you purchased on ebay.
> Likewise your sadness in a tach that is not quite right.
> 
> All is sad now..
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Matt Endicott"
> > I've been reworking my mechanical JAEGER tach in my 62 Midget MK1 after
> > it froze up.  I know Smith and Jaeger were one in the same, but the dial
> > calibration on a Midget MK1 is different than the Smith units used in
> > the Bugeye or MK2 Sprite.  My car came with a repro tach reduction box.
> > Did Midget MK1 use the exact same tach reduction gearbox as the MK1 and
> > MK2 Sprite?  Also anybody know how to calibrate this thing other than
> > trial and error of pointer placement?  Please have a look at my work and
> > pictures here: www.indoorphin.com/tach
> > 
> > Thx, Matt
> > _______________________________________________

From cclabaw at juno.com  Sat Aug  2 09:57:50 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:57:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
Message-ID: <20080802.085750.6880.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Matt -

A suggestion from my 'kit car' days: mount a VW Beetle handbrake assembly on
the top of the tunnel.  Some adaptation needed to mount this, and to make the
hook-up to the cable, but it's pretty easy.  Parts available world-wide.

Clay L.



-- Matt Endicott <endicar at comcast.net> wrote:
Dean, have you no confidence in my repair work? :>)   My brother sent me
this link with lots of good
info: o;?http://home.comcast.net/~rhodes/speedo.pdf  Amazing how similar
tachs and speedo's are.  The needle on mine was clearly lubricated from
the factory.  It's kind of waxy and might be whale oil.  I will
definately follow his advise on setting the pointer needle.  Looks like
the accuracy over the dial scale is controlled more from spring tension
and magnet strength so it would seem they are not interchangeable unless
you swap magnets or springs.  Peter C. can you get new rubber gaskets
for these things?

Next question: I'm darn tired of that damn handbrake poking my leg.
Anybody have any tips on relocating it to the right side of the tunnel?
I think it was a cruel joke played on us LHD types by the Brits who
designed it.  Notice the RHD models still have it on the left away from
the drivers leg!

Matt

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 00:43 -0400, Dean Hedin wrote:

> Put the Bugeye tach back together and re sell it on ebay.
> Wait until the appropriate tach shows up.
>
> Just as you seek 62' midget tach, somewhere someone seeks a Bugeye tach,
> To do anything that would upset the balance is bad kharma.
>
> Consider the sadness of the second highest bidder of the Bugeye tach you
purchased on ebay.
> Likewise your sadness in a tach that is not quite right.
>
> All is sad now..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Endicott"
> > I've been reworking my mechanical JAEGER tach in my 62 Midget MK1 after
> > it froze up.  I know Smith and Jaeger were one in the same, but the dial
> > calibration on a Midget MK1 is different than the Smith units used in
> > the Bugeye or MK2 Sprite.  My car came with a repro tach reduction box.
> > Did Midget MK1 use the exact same tach reduction gearbox as the MK1 and
> > MK2 Sprite?  Also anybody know how to calibrate this thing other than
> > trial and error of pointer placement?  Please have a look at my work and
> > pictures here: www.indoorphin.com/tach
> >
> > Thx, Matt
> > _______________________________________________
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Sat Aug  2 10:03:36 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:03:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Need Tranny
Message-ID: <20080802.090336.6880.2@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

Does anyone in the SoCal area have a usable rib-case tranny available at a
reasonable cost?  My daughter has a '53 Triumph Mayflower that had been
converted to a 1098 Midget engine and trans about 40 years ago.  The lay gear
has gone south (shaft and/or bearings?).

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Aug  2 10:15:59 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:15:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
In-Reply-To: <20080802.085750.6880.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080802.085750.6880.1@webmail03.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4894883E.50306@frontiernet.net>

Or, you could get a Morris Minor front axle and move the steering wheel 
to the proper side of the car.

Kate
>
> A suggestion from my 'kit car' days: mount a VW Beetle handbrake assembly on
> the top of the tunnel. 

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  2 10:59:58 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] water pump pulley
Message-ID: <8EB0276F-3277-41C3-811C-C73A86B962DD@gmail.com>

I have a plastic 6 blade fan to mount on my 1098 engine.  With the  
single groove pulley the fan won't fit over the end of the water pump  
that protrudes thru the pulley.

I have a 3 groove pulley from a 1275 that has a thicker flange on the  
front that fits flush with the front of the water pump.  So now my fan  
fits but I am wondering if this is a problem in any way.  I know Frank  
was talking at Carlisle about a spacer but I don't have one and they  
are hard to find I guess.  No timing cover clearance problems with the  
stock timing cover.

Is this set up ok?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Sat Aug  2 11:12:21 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:12:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
	<71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>
	<1217691039.6525.26.camel@me-laptop>
Message-ID: <F3803F194756408B85358EFDDF608CC7@Dell9200>

Matt,

It's not the handbrake it is you fat ass!  Sell me your car and go buy 
another Imperial!

Brother Mark
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt Endicott
  To: Dean Hedin ; Mark Endicott
  Cc: Spridget List
  Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:30 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake



  Next question: I'm darn tired of that damn handbrake poking my leg. 
Anybody have any tips on relocating it to the right side of the tunnel?  I 
think it was a cruel joke played on us LHD types by the Brits who designed 
it.  Notice the RHD models still have it on the left away from the drivers 
leg!

  Matt

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug  2 15:41:43 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:41:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] It's alive!
In-Reply-To: <A5CBD85E-9078-4606-9EFA-E4FC2D77847D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080802214146.SVNF26316.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Well, after a couple years I finally got to drive a Sprite, and my own at
that.  It was only around the block and without a hood and half the front
end, but still worth the adventure.

Lots of fun observations...

I have oil pressure, lots of it.  I see a few gaskets that need replacing,
especially the valve cover nut ones.

My accelerator cable sticks and not in a good way.  On the plus side, the
brakes and clutch work great.  My 6 year old daughter had fun helping me
bleed the system this morning.

Wife comments the house stinks after running it.  I concur, its running too
rich.  Is there a good SU Carb Tuning for Dummies out there?

Thanks for all the tips and tricks the past couple years.  Without this list
this thing would still be in boxes somewhere!

Chris

66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

From p.herder at cox.net  Sat Aug  2 16:01:44 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SCORE!!!
In-Reply-To: <20080802214146.SVNF26316.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080802214146.SVNF26316.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <4894D948.6020708@cox.net>

A friend of a friend purchased this parts car and can't use the hardtop 
since it is for a 64-66.

I have a 66 :D

http://members.cox.net/p.herder/images/Hardtop.jpg

It is in better shape than the parts car! ;)

Still needs a little work but it's mine now!

I was told it is a factory hardtop. Anyone know for sure how to check?

Paul

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Aug  2 16:15:05 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:15:05 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] It's alive!
Message-ID: <c6d.2e78ddca.35c63669@aol.com>

I'd try running it in the yard next time!
 
In a message dated 02/08/2008 22:42:03 GMT Daylight Time, cmanuel at wi.rr.com  
writes:

Wife  comments the house stinks after running it.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Aug  2 16:16:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:16:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] SCORE!!!
Message-ID: <bdc.316035a0.35c636ce@aol.com>

Well it looks like the factory hard top
 
In a message dated 02/08/2008 23:02:05 GMT Daylight Time, p.herder at cox.net  
writes:

I was  told it is a factory hardtop.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug  2 16:33:43 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:33:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC
Message-ID: <105297.24660.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Answering a restoration question that I don't think anyone has ever asked:

Ebay item number: 180271629112

If only the restorer's talents had been used on almost anything else...

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 19:50:13 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:50:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
	<71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>
	<1217691039.6525.26.camel@me-laptop>
Message-ID: <9B197165C3D64F66849F47ADC0B4FBB3@blackbox2>

No doubting your repair skill.

I'm just of the opinion that it's the type of item you can live without for a while until you find the right type of tach.

But I do appreciate the link to the speedo pdf.

Can't help you on the brake re-locate.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Matt Endicott
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake

Dean, have you no confidence in my repair work? :>)   My brother sent me this link with lots of good info: 
o;?http://home.comcast.net/~rhodes/speedo.pdf  Amazing how similar tachs and speedo's are.  The needle on mine was clearly lubricated 
from the factory.  It's kind of waxy and might be whale oil.  I will definately follow his advise on setting the pointer needle. 
Looks like the accuracy over the dial scale is controlled more from spring tension and magnet strength so it would seem they are not 
interchangeable unless you swap magnets or springs.  Peter C. can you get new rubber gaskets for these things?

Next question: I'm darn tired of that damn handbrake poking my leg.  Anybody have any tips on relocating it to the right side of the 
tunnel?  I think it was a cruel joke played on us LHD types by the Brits who designed it.  Notice the RHD models still have it on 
the left away from the drivers leg!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 19:56:16 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:56:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
Message-ID: <7B6B0104716149AC8B99D35A38AB408D@blackbox2>

Here you go...ebay item number: 280206508144

So it's not like they are not out there or anything...

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Aug  2 20:01:45 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:01:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC
In-Reply-To: <105297.24660.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <105297.24660.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808021901u25cf5e71xf803b02802903656@mail.gmail.com>

I can't believe the bid is up to 9K on the damn thing

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Answering a restoration question that I don't think anyone has ever asked:
>
> Ebay item number: 180271629112
>
> If only the restorer's talents had been used on almost anything else...
>
> Ron
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Aug  2 20:19:29 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:19:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC
References: <105297.24660.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Aw c'mon Brad.  We all know you've been secretly bidding on it.  :-)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC


>I can't believe the bid is up to 9K on the damn thing

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 20:36:27 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:36:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC
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I agree.. I saw the bid and thought that someone had stuffed a big V8  
in there or maybe it was a down and out funny car.. but a bone stock  
POS?

Lester


On Aug 2, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> I can't believe the bid is up to 9K on the damn thing
>
> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Answering a restoration question that I don't think anyone has ever  
>> asked:
>>
>> Ebay item number: 180271629112
>>
>> If only the restorer's talents had been used on almost anything  
>> else...
>>
>> Ron
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 20:41:37 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:41:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 flywheel ?
Message-ID: <48951AE1.8010805@comcast.net>

Today I power washed the Holy Sprite's 1098 engine and took off the 
clutch which appears to be in very usable condition.
The release bearing is shot and the slave rod is ovaled out and bent but 
the p/plate still has cosmoline on it and the disc
looks very good.
BUT I saw this ungodly groove in the face of the flywheel which I 
thought was from a past clutch disc riding the rivets on the flywheel. 
So I popped off a 2nd 1098 flywheel only to find the exact same groove.
Are 1098 flywheels machined with a nice groove all the way around? Or is 
rivet gouging common on 1098s?
I have seen rivet grooves before and on my initial inspection while 
talking with Buster on the phone, I thought the flywheel was trash.
But 2 of them? And at a closer look, they look like they are supposed to 
be there.
Does anybody know if the groove is supposed to be in a 1098 flywheel?
If not, anybody have a decent 1098 flywheel for the Holy Sprite? The 
clutch is OK but I will get a new T/O bearing and pilot bushing.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 20:43:24 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:43:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WHy? No LBC
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Message-ID: <48951B4C.5020705@comcast.net>

Lester wrote:
> I agree.. I saw the bid and thought that someone had stuffed a big V8  
> in there or maybe it was a down and out funny car.. but a bone stock  
> POS?
>
>   
Maybe because it is one of those exploding Pintos with self destructing 
Firestone 500 tires?
At least the air cleaners on the Pintos didn't melt into the carbs like 
on the Vegas.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From p.herder at cox.net  Sat Aug  2 20:46:51 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 flywheel ?
In-Reply-To: <48951AE1.8010805@comcast.net>
References: <48951AE1.8010805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48951C1B.9080401@cox.net>

I  have mine out but in the shop so I will check tomorrow morning and LYK.

Paul

Frank Clarici wrote:
> Today I power washed the Holy Sprite's 1098 engine and took off the 
> clutch which appears to be in very usable condition.
> The release bearing is shot and the slave rod is ovaled out and bent but 
> the p/plate still has cosmoline on it and the disc
> looks very good.
> BUT I saw this ungodly groove in the face of the flywheel which I 
> thought was from a past clutch disc riding the rivets on the flywheel. 
> So I popped off a 2nd 1098 flywheel only to find the exact same groove.
> Are 1098 flywheels machined with a nice groove all the way around? Or is 
> rivet gouging common on 1098s?
> I have seen rivet grooves before and on my initial inspection while 
> talking with Buster on the phone, I thought the flywheel was trash.
> But 2 of them? And at a closer look, they look like they are supposed to 
> be there.
> Does anybody know if the groove is supposed to be in a 1098 flywheel?
> If not, anybody have a decent 1098 flywheel for the Holy Sprite? The 
> clutch is OK but I will get a new T/O bearing and pilot bushing.

From endicar at comcast.net  Sat Aug  2 22:09:12 2008
From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:09:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
In-Reply-To: <9B197165C3D64F66849F47ADC0B4FBB3@blackbox2>
References: <1217642313.6462.10.camel@me-laptop>
	<71F3EA3238114A86808C2B98C7BCF0AA@blackbox2>
	<1217691039.6525.26.camel@me-laptop>
	<9B197165C3D64F66849F47ADC0B4FBB3@blackbox2>
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o;?Dean, apparently you misunderstood.  I've always had the right tach for
my Midget.  It just didn't work, but now that I've figured out how to
fix it I won't be needing the bugeye tach and eventually it will no
doubt find it's way back on ebay or make itself useful in a trade
sometime.

Matt

On Sat, 2008-08-02 at 21:50 -0400, Dean Hedin wrote:

> No doubting your repair skill.
> 
> I'm just of the opinion that it's the type of item you can live without for a while until you find the right type of tach.
> 
> But I do appreciate the link to the speedo pdf.
> 
> Can't help you on the brake re-locate.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Matt Endicott
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] spridget mech tach questions/ now handbrake
> 
> Dean, have you no confidence in my repair work? :>)   My brother sent me this link with lots of good info: 
> o;?http://home.comcast.net/~rhodes/speedo.pdf  Amazing how similar tachs and speedo's are.  The needle on mine was clearly lubricated 
> from the factory.  It's kind of waxy and might be whale oil.  I will definately follow his advise on setting the pointer needle. 
> Looks like the accuracy over the dial scale is controlled more from spring tension and magnet strength so it would seem they are not 
> interchangeable unless you swap magnets or springs.  Peter C. can you get new rubber gaskets for these things?
> 
> Next question: I'm darn tired of that damn handbrake poking my leg.  Anybody have any tips on relocating it to the right side of the 
> tunnel?  I think it was a cruel joke played on us LHD types by the Brits who designed it.  Notice the RHD models still have it on 
> the left away from the drivers leg!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Aug  2 23:01:08 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:01:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 flywheel ?
In-Reply-To: <48951C1B.9080401@cox.net>
Message-ID: <C4BA89A4.18BA5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

My 1098 flywheels don't have any grooves.

From vern at srvinet.com  Sun Aug  3 07:20:43 2008
From: vern at srvinet.com (Vernon Olson)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:20:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] voltage stabilizer
Message-ID: <4895B0AB.80402@srvinet.com>

I was checking out the guages on my 59 bugeye yesterday and the
fuel guage reads very high.  I am thinking that maybe it needs a
voltage stabilizer.  I looked at the wiring diagram very carefully when
making the loom and didn't see one, but suppose the gauge would
certainly be more accurate with one. 
Vern

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Aug  3 09:44:28 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 08:44:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos Holy Sprite Trip
Message-ID: <B7E0E5A9-2209-40E0-BEF3-5F7FF6833A9E@mac.com>

I know there was some talk about a site for pictures of the Holy  
Sprite road trip, in addition to what Jim is doing.

Did this happen?

D-Day -4 till the first part of the trip, getting the trailer,  starts.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Aug  3 10:24:42 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:24:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos Holy Sprite Trip
In-Reply-To: <B7E0E5A9-2209-40E0-BEF3-5F7FF6833A9E@mac.com>
References: <B7E0E5A9-2209-40E0-BEF3-5F7FF6833A9E@mac.com>
Message-ID: <054B6322-4B08-4D88-B74F-EAE5677F0581@phillymgclub.com>

I can do it, if anyone else is not upcoming.

send to lmacy1211 at gmail.com and I will post on a free access NO  
REGISTRATION site.

Since I can not tow, this is the least I can do.

Larry
On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> I know there was some talk about a site for pictures of the Holy
> Sprite road trip, in addition to what Jim is doing.
>
> Did this happen?
>
> D-Day -4 till the first part of the trip, getting the trailer,   
> starts.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug  3 10:37:10 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:37:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos Holy Sprite Trip
In-Reply-To: <054B6322-4B08-4D88-B74F-EAE5677F0581@phillymgclub.com>
References: <B7E0E5A9-2209-40E0-BEF3-5F7FF6833A9E@mac.com>
	<054B6322-4B08-4D88-B74F-EAE5677F0581@phillymgclub.com>
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Holy Sprite Haulers (HSH),

Just a reminder....  I'm going to try to document as much of this venture as
possible to see if we can get some published recognition for Father Jack in
a motoring jounral somewhere. Also it would be fun to put complete
documentation in a scrapbook for him.

To that end, would each of you who are going to pull the trailer be sure to
take at least one digital picture and write a paragraph or two describing
your part in the project?

Email both to me for archival <bmwwxman at gmail.com> and also address Larry
(see below message <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>) so he can post the pics
online...

Many thanks to all of you. This is going to be fun!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/3/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
>
> I can do it, if anyone else is not upcoming.
>
> send to lmacy1211 at gmail.com and I will post on a free access NO
> REGISTRATION site.
>
> Since I can not tow, this is the least I can do.
>
> Larry
>
> On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>
> > I know there was some talk about a site for pictures of the Holy
> > Sprite road trip, in addition to what Jim is doing.
> >
> > Did this happen?
> >
> > D-Day -4 till the first part of the trip, getting the trailer,
> > starts.
> >
> > Bob Kitterer
> >
> > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> > 2000 Miata Special Edition
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
>
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> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
> never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams
>
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Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 11:17:10 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 10:17:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos Holy Sprite Trip
In-Reply-To: <054B6322-4B08-4D88-B74F-EAE5677F0581@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <400588.59884.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
> this is the least I can do.

Never let it be said you didn't do the least you could.

Anon

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Aug  3 14:55:32 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:55:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring
Message-ID: <890C9B6FACCB47F2A399C4A684050DC4@Home>

I am finally getting to the electricity on my '74 Midget.  

1.  There are lots of wrong-color patches and orphaned wires.  Can anyone sell me a bag of misc. pieces of old wires in the necessary colors?

2.  Should the horn(s) work with a direct connection to the battery, or is some intermediate processing/relay required?  Any reason not to buy a cheap horn an mount it somewhere accessible instead of down in a hole?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug  3 16:24:06 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Top
Message-ID: <1067109986.20080803152406@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

         my hard top is now in Portland. gonna go pick it up tomorrow
         after work... still looking for the top to windscreen header
         CLAMPS.. anybody have some spares?...

         i see that Maggregor (http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com) has the rear seals and side window seals
         for factory tops.. i'll call them tomorrow or Tuesday to make
         sure  as their reputation is great....

         FUZZY or VINYL... i'm leaning to Fuzzy..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Don't speak now, and forever hold your peace. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug  3 16:29:59 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:29:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring
In-Reply-To: <890C9B6FACCB47F2A399C4A684050DC4@Home>
References: <890C9B6FACCB47F2A399C4A684050DC4@Home>
Message-ID: <109598647.20080803152959@pacifier.com>

Hello Michael,

     the only reason to use a relay is because A horn can draw too
     much current for either the horn push OR the wires going TO the
     horn push.. .. the factory thought the horn push was physically
     and electrically large enough, so it depends upon the size wires
     YOU run.... AWG 10 is what the factory ran, even for DUAL horns,
     so ... you probably don't need a relay... UNLESS you want one...

     Generic horns . mounted where accessible.... GOOD!..
     Factory horns..mounted ?????? ?????      also GOOD..depending
     upon what YOU want...functional and easy or functional and
     (pedantically) correct... 



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "We've just brought gold and frankincense," the Magi demurred.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug  3 16:59:18 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:59:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiring
References: <890C9B6FACCB47F2A399C4A684050DC4@Home>
	<109598647.20080803152959@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <748572FC10B647B9851AAC5DE5CAD87A@midget>

>     the only reason to use a relay is because A horn can draw too
>     much current for either the horn push OR the wires going TO the
>     horn push.. .. the factory thought the horn push was physically
>     and electrically large enough, so it depends upon the size wires
>     YOU run.... AWG 10 is what the factory ran, even for DUAL horns,
>     so ... you probably don't need a relay... UNLESS you want one...

The factory was just too cheap to use relays and didn't care if the car 
lasted a year. We are close to 30 years old on the newest Spridgets and 
things get tired. Relays are a useful way to extend the life of switches and 
pieces which are getting harder and harder to replace with good parts. IF 
you can understand a relay and can wire one neatly and well, do so.
David Lieb 

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Sun Aug  3 16:55:33 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:55:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard Top
In-Reply-To: <1067109986.20080803152406@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4.1.20080803184851.00d15238@mail.bellsouth.net>

Bill:

I have numerous sets of the chrome latches and windshield brackets that we
can haggle over. I'll pick the best set tomorrow and let you know.

I have a hardtop for my ' 72 in about the same shape as yours and am
looking to replace all the weatherstripping and window rubber on it. Let me
know what you find out from MacGregor.

Bob Spruck
Sharpsburg, GA
1972 Midget Street and Show
1967 Midget Vintage Racer
6 parts cars out back in the woods in my Spridget Hospice


At 03:24 PM 8/3/2008 -0700, you wrote:
>Hello Spridgets,
>
>         my hard top is now in Portland. gonna go pick it up tomorrow
>         after work... still looking for the top to windscreen header
>         CLAMPS.. anybody have some spares?...
>
>         i see that Maggregor (http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com) has the 
>rear seals and side window seals
>         for factory tops.. i'll call them tomorrow or Tuesday to make
>         sure  as their reputation is great....
>
>         FUZZY or VINYL... i'm leaning to Fuzzy..
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> 
>  Don't speak now, and forever hold your peace. 
>_______________________________________________
>

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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Sun Aug  3 17:37:45 2008
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:37:45 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
Message-ID: <002e01c8f5c1$f24c7790$0202a8c0@desktop>

My sprite has a Jaeger  mechanical drive tacho, but there is no drive gear for
the dynamo end.  Has anyone out there who has modified to alternator who has
the original gear drive for a dynamo going spare ?
 I'd love to have a working  tacho in the car, if not I might resort to
fitting an electrical one from a 72 midget , which all the purists will take
delighty in telling is wrong !
  Apparantly the Jaeger mech driven tachos were only fitted to bugeyes for a
short period of time.  The rest of the instruments are also Jaeger - the
speedo reads about 50% faster than I'm actually doing. So I don't know what
differential is fitted . I believe the morris minor smooth case gearbox had a
1:1 top gear like the frogeye , so the mismatch comes from the diff I
presume.
Anyone ?
alan

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug  3 17:45:35 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:45:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
References: <15F345B99B2C49B1B35F77BF5E7DD5CF@Larry>
Message-ID: <11EB3BDCDAE340ACAD4B7181BCF7D11F@midget>

Larry sure throws a great party! Trish and I drove the Bugeye up to Oshkosh 
yesterday for the fabulous Daniels Brothers EAA Air Show. Great seats and a 
good show to go with a good potluck and lots of good people to talk with. We 
brought a couple friends from the Miata club, since my buddy with the 78 
Midget was not available. We took the scenic route up by way of Alden and 
Walworth and the Kettle Moraine, although I opted for the direct route home. 
Good thing, cuz Trish was getting a trifle chilly long before we got home 
even as it was.

We got there in time to tour the Fox Cities All British Car Club facilities. 
Too bad it is so far away from Palatine... What a place! 4-post lift, 2-post 
lift, tools, bar, lounge, game room, ad nauseum.

Interesting air show. F22 Raptor (I am told -- what would I know) that was 
doing some crazy drifting and insane noise. A rocket plane that had the most 
incredible acceleration straight up. Bombers dropping some kind of 
incendiary devices. Aerobatics teams. Skydivers. Just glad I diodn't have to 
pay to refill any of those tanks! I posted a few shots at
http://spridgets.photoshop.com

We could not have asked for better weather for a 360-mile road trip and 
party. Thanks, Larry!
David Lieb 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Aug  3 17:54:23 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:54:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
In-Reply-To: <11EB3BDCDAE340ACAD4B7181BCF7D11F@midget>
References: <15F345B99B2C49B1B35F77BF5E7DD5CF@Larry>,
	<11EB3BDCDAE340ACAD4B7181BCF7D11F@midget>
Message-ID: <4895E2BF.20088.1FB5ADF@dmg.bossig.com>

IIRC, from the when I used to go to Ooskoh, bombers don't actually drop 
munitions...
The explosions/napalm/etc come from carefully planned and supervised 
pyrotechnics in and on the ground...
But it is a damn good show....


On 3 Aug 2008 at 18:45, David Lieb wrote:

>> Bombers dropping some kind of 
>> incendiary devices. Aerobatics teams.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug  3 17:57:34 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:57:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
References: <15F345B99B2C49B1B35F77BF5E7DD5CF@Larry>,
	<11EB3BDCDAE340ACAD4B7181BCF7D11F@midget>
	<4895E2BF.20088.1FB5ADF@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <295D9D041BA54783AFE1A8F7B50DAA32@midget>

> IIRC, from the when I used to go to Ooskoh, bombers don't actually drop
> munitions...
> The explosions/napalm/etc come from carefully planned and supervised
> pyrotechnics in and on the ground...
> But it is a damn good show....

That would explain why we couldn't see anything coming out of the planes ;-)
I was willing to believe it was just my eyesight... 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Aug  3 18:00:16 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:00:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
In-Reply-To: <002e01c8f5c1$f24c7790$0202a8c0@desktop>
References: <002e01c8f5c1$f24c7790$0202a8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <4895E420.10201.200BE83@dmg.bossig.com>

Purists be damned... do what you need to do to keep it on the road ;^))

I doubt that the  factory ever produced a production line vehicle that would 
satisfy them at a modern meet...
What was in the bin at assembly time was good enough.


<Puts on flame proof suit>  !!

On 4 Aug 2008 at 0:37, Alan East-Jones wrote:
>> which all the purists will take
>> delighty in telling is wrong !


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Aug  3 18:12:27 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:12:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
In-Reply-To: <11EB3BDCDAE340ACAD4B7181BCF7D11F@midget>
Message-ID: <20080804001211.B940318786F@autox.team.net>

Nice to see y'all. Good party Larry.

Dave didn't recognize me apparently due to my Dave Leib-like goatee and I'm
a jazz man glasses.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:46 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show

Larry sure throws a great party! Trish and I drove the Bugeye up to Oshkosh 
yesterday for the fabulous Daniels Brothers EAA Air Show. Great seats and a 
good show to go with a good potluck and lots of good people to talk with. We

brought a couple friends from the Miata club, since my buddy with the 78 
Midget was not available. We took the scenic route up by way of Alden and 
Walworth and the Kettle Moraine, although I opted for the direct route home.

Good thing, cuz Trish was getting a trifle chilly long before we got home 
even as it was.

We got there in time to tour the Fox Cities All British Car Club facilities.

Too bad it is so far away from Palatine... What a place! 4-post lift, 2-post

lift, tools, bar, lounge, game room, ad nauseum.

Interesting air show. F22 Raptor (I am told -- what would I know) that was 
doing some crazy drifting and insane noise. A rocket plane that had the most

incredible acceleration straight up. Bombers dropping some kind of 
incendiary devices. Aerobatics teams. Skydivers. Just glad I diodn't have to

pay to refill any of those tanks! I posted a few shots at
http://spridgets.photoshop.com

We could not have asked for better weather for a 360-mile road trip and 
party. Thanks, Larry!
David Lieb 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug  3 18:39:26 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:39:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
In-Reply-To: <4895E420.10201.200BE83@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <002e01c8f5c1$f24c7790$0202a8c0@desktop>
	<4895E420.10201.200BE83@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <1537392405.20080803173926@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     I am in agreement with you on the

     "do what ya need to do to keep it on the road"...

     and what you need to do to make maintenance simpler.!

     BUT....its a big tent. there's room for EVERYONE at the party and
     if some it makes them happy to over-restore a car and think
     that's the way they OUGHT to be..... more power to 'em. i pay no
     more attention to their criticisms than they pay to my car. 

     but if someone else wants to put in a rotary engine, or turn one
     into a station wagon .. more power to them too!......







-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Iraqi rifle for sale. Never fired. Dropped once. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 18:44:19 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:44:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Holy Sprite
Message-ID: <489650E3.3060807@comcast.net>

At a family function tonight I was talking about the Holy Sprite and 
it's trek across the USA.
A non family member who I know very well whipped out $100 bucks and said 
here you go!
I just bout a couple tires for the project.
Now I did not ask for anything but I did say everybody is donating their 
tow vehicles, time and money and he just felt like he had to help out.
So talk it up at your Bar-B-Qs, who knows, maybe people will dig out 
hundred dollar bills! But $10s will do too :)
On a side note, it seems the 1098 flywheel groove is the mark not to 
exceed when you have it resurfaced.
Some guys have grooves, others do not. Maybe the do nots have been cut. 
The groove is outside the clutch disc so it can't hurt anything.
I did manage to clean and paint the engine, new valve cover tags, fresh 
oil filter and thermostat so it will be ready to run once it goes in.
Brake drums are all clean and powder coated, along with a few other 
bits. I just need the car ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From RampantNM at aol.com  Sun Aug  3 18:42:12 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:42:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Orange Pinto
Message-ID: <bfc.3f13880a.35c7aa64@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/3/2008 12:03:40 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

Answering a restoration question that I don't think anyone has ever  asked:

Ebay item number: 180271629112

If only the restorer's  talents had been used on almost anything  else...

Ron


Some tea sipper from UT Austin  will undoubtedly snatch it up for  his  
daughter  to drive a school.

 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

74.5 MGBGT
73 MG  Midget

As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual  Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet  pleasingly formed, 
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching  for experienced 
hands, 
the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging  to be inspected and 
adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes  shop manual.



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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Aug  3 18:50:51 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:50:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question
Message-ID: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>

I'm finally getting around to fitting a set of 13x5 Amercian Libre wheels  to 
my Bugeye. For tires I'm considering 185/60HR13 Sumitomo HR200's, which  are 
available at Tire Rack for $41ea. This is strictly for street use  only.
 
Two questions:
 
...Have any of you had any experience with this tire, either good or  bad?
 
...Will this tire/wheel combination fit on a stock suspension Bugeye  without 
rubbing, or any modifications? 
 
I'm not sure of the wheel offset but I could measure it if someone on the  
list has information that would require me to do so.
 
Thanks,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug  3 18:55:37 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 17:55:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
Message-ID: <1469898017.20080803175537@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

       While I was at the Seattle (bellevue) ABFM, i broached the
       subject of combining the Sprites with the Midgets and having
       ONE class. The Midget guys acknowledged what we know, namely
       that the Midgets are like the tow-headed step children of the
       MG family, just as was known, about the Square-Body Sprites to
       the Austin Healy Club(s). ..

       BUT, they were concerned that if such a thing were to happen
       that they would be competing against the BUG_EYES...
       apparently, at least the guys i talked to they were there to
       try to WIN PRIZES?... or PLAQUES?.. or some sort of
       RECOGNITION?... ... and as we all know .. when they group the
       Square Bodies with the BE's in the SPRITE group, you won't win
       anything with the Box sprite.... .. soooo... at least in
       Northern Washington, the idea of having ONE BIG GROUP instead
       of two or three little ones has too much resistance...

       at least for the present...

       has anyone else talked about this at their localities??

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "This steamroller really works," said Tom flatteringly.

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sun Aug  3 19:04:22 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:04:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
In-Reply-To: <1469898017.20080803175537@pacifier.com>
References: <1469898017.20080803175537@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040808031804k2b71f322g7fa7a63b6f861aa0@mail.gmail.com>

I don't care how they split up the classes for voting, but I wished
they'd keep them parked in the same area.  I was at a show this
weekend and the Sprite class was 100 yards from the Midgets.  A bunch
of us knew each other, and it would have been nice to all hang out in
one area with our cars.

Trevor Jessie

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>       While I was at the Seattle (bellevue) ABFM, i broached the
>       subject of combining the Sprites with the Midgets and having
>       ONE class. The Midget guys acknowledged what we know, namely
>       that the Midgets are like the tow-headed step children of the
>       MG family, just as was known, about the Square-Body Sprites to
>       the Austin Healy Club(s). ..
>
>       BUT, they were concerned that if such a thing were to happen
>       that they would be competing against the BUG_EYES...
>       apparently, at least the guys i talked to they were there to
>       try to WIN PRIZES?... or PLAQUES?.. or some sort of
>       RECOGNITION?... ... and as we all know .. when they group the
>       Square Bodies with the BE's in the SPRITE group, you won't win
>       anything with the Box sprite.... .. soooo... at least in
>       Northern Washington, the idea of having ONE BIG GROUP instead
>       of two or three little ones has too much resistance...
>
>       at least for the present...
>
>       has anyone else talked about this at their localities??
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Aug  3 19:21:08 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:21:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
In-Reply-To: <1537392405.20080803173926@pacifier.com>
References: <002e01c8f5c1$f24c7790$0202a8c0@desktop>,
	<4895E420.10201.200BE83@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<1537392405.20080803173926@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4895F714.5457.24AC774@dmg.bossig.com>

Hear, hear   ;^)

On 3 Aug 2008 at 17:39, Bill L wrote:
>>      but if someone else wants to put in a rotary engine, or turn one
>>      into a station wagon .. more power to them too!......

I seem to remember there is a F.I. Spridget on the list...  !!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Aug  3 19:34:54 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 19:34:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question
In-Reply-To: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>
References: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808031834n526ab88cy2eab9b1b6b26ed0c@mail.gmail.com>

Howard,

Two things to watch for... One is the rear tire rubbing on the springs. The
other is the front tire rubbing on the bottom most part of the front fender
where it curves down and in. It will do that when you turn the wheel full
over... I have 205/60/13s on my Bugeye and had to use spacers with longer
studs. In order to clear, there is 1/2 inch of spacer on each hub. The front
will still rub but I bought a fiberglass bonnet to cut instead of the nice
steel one.

Since your perferred tire is 2 sizes smaller, you may not have these issues.
Find a local dealer who will match or come close to the TireRack price and
have him mount one to see if it works without issues. Make sure that you
have the appropriate weight in the car when you check for clearances.
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!


On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 6:50 PM, <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> I'm finally getting around to fitting a set of 13x5 Amercian Libre wheels
>  to
> my Bugeye. For tires I'm considering 185/60HR13 Sumitomo HR200's, which
>  are
> available at Tire Rack for $41ea. This is strictly for street use  only.
>
> Two questions:
>
> ...Have any of you had any experience with this tire, either good or  bad?
>
> ...Will this tire/wheel combination fit on a stock suspension Bugeye
>  without
> rubbing, or any modifications?
>
> I'm not sure of the wheel offset but I could measure it if someone on the
> list has information that would require me to do so.
>
> Thanks,
> Howard Collins

From davriker at nwi.net  Sun Aug  3 19:59:37 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:59:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
References: <1469898017.20080803175537@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <003001c8f5d5$bfecde70$6600a8c0@dave>

... and the Rubber Bumper Midgets complain they can't compete against a 
chrome bumper car, and on and which ever one is red will always win 1st.....


But we know it is not true.  A nice car is a nice car, and if that restored 
Woody Pinto was in my class, I'd vote for it over a perfect Bugeye.
David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which

>       BUT, they were concerned that if such a thing were to happen
>       that they would be competing against the BUG_EYES...
>       apparently, at least the guys i talked to they were there to
>       try to WIN PRIZES?... or PLAQUES?.. or some sort of
>       RECOGNITION?... ... and as we all know .. when they group the
>       Square Bodies with the BE's in the SPRITE group, you won't win
>       anything with the Box sprite.... .. soooo... at least in
>       Northern Washington, the idea of having ONE BIG GROUP instead
>       of two or three little ones has too much resistance...
>
>       at least for the present...
>
>       has anyone else talked about this at their localities??

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 20:23:09 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:23:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question
In-Reply-To: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>
References: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4896680D.8000708@comcast.net>

Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> I'm finally getting around to fitting a set of 13x5 Amercian Libre wheels  to 
> my Bugeye. For tires I'm considering 185/60HR13 Sumitomo HR200's, which  are 
> available at Tire Rack for $41ea. This is strictly for street use  only.
>  
>
>   
I had 195/60s on my bugeye which is 1" lowered and never had a rubbing 
problem.
In my opinion, those tires were just too wide for my liking. I recently 
went with 175/70s and they are perfect.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 20:55:23 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:55:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
References: <20080804001211.B940318786F@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <330EDEFC6F9A4C21A824717828F5641C@Larry>

Glad you guys enjoyed the party.  My bro says we have never run out of beer 
before, but we did this time with an hour to go.  Well done, boys.  I'm 
proud of the effort, but we'll have more next time.  Let it never be said 
again that we can't buy more beer than you can drink.  ;-))

Dave, you are right.  We are very fortunate to have such a nice facility. 
And, no, you cannot move it to Palatine!

Dave G. is also right.  The bombing runs are totally choreographed.  All of 
the explosions are set off on the ground.  Dropping that kind of munitions 
would be way too dangerous.  As long as the EPA doesn't see how much black 
smoke is let out, we will continue to see a good show.

See y'all next year.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'David Lieb'" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>; "'Spridgets'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show


Nice to see y'all. Good party Larry.

Dave didn't recognize me apparently due to my Dave Leib-like goatee and I'm
a jazz man glasses.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:46 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show

Larry sure throws a great party! Trish and I drove the Bugeye up to Oshkosh
yesterday for the fabulous Daniels Brothers EAA Air Show. Great seats and a
good show to go with a good potluck and lots of good people to talk with. We

brought a couple friends from the Miata club, since my buddy with the 78
Midget was not available. We took the scenic route up by way of Alden and
Walworth and the Kettle Moraine, although I opted for the direct route home.

Good thing, cuz Trish was getting a trifle chilly long before we got home
even as it was.

We got there in time to tour the Fox Cities All British Car Club facilities.

Too bad it is so far away from Palatine... What a place! 4-post lift, 2-post

lift, tools, bar, lounge, game room, ad nauseum.

Interesting air show. F22 Raptor (I am told -- what would I know) that was
doing some crazy drifting and insane noise. A rocket plane that had the most

incredible acceleration straight up. Bombers dropping some kind of
incendiary devices. Aerobatics teams. Skydivers. Just glad I diodn't have to

pay to refill any of those tanks! I posted a few shots at
http://spridgets.photoshop.com

We could not have asked for better weather for a 360-mile road trip and
party. Thanks, Larry!
David Lieb
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug  3 21:58:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:58:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
In-Reply-To: <1469898017.20080803175537@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKELGCIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Bill:

<<While I was at the Seattle (bellevue) ABFM, i broached the subject of
combining the Sprites with the Midgets and having ONE class.>>

NOT gonna happen<G>!!

The absolute best I have EVER seen is:
Frogeyes
Roadsters (non-windup)
CB Converts.
RB Converts.

AND IMHO, the most equable.

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug  3 22:09:41 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:09:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
In-Reply-To: <330EDEFC6F9A4C21A824717828F5641C@Larry>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGELHCIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<My bro says we have never run out of beer
before, but we did this time with an hour to go.>>

You just got LUCKY, Larry!!!

I was gonna sneak in to your gig, but had a REALLY bad Friday nite and did
not go to bed until a tad after 8:00AM and up at 3:30PM<VBF>!!  Fri**in'
drugs<F>!!

Had I made it, woulda been SEVERAL hours BEFORE the "...with an hour to
go."!!!  LOL

I HAVE made the EAA event around a dozen time and have NEVER been
dis-appointed!!!!  Just UN-real!!!  The SST fly-by IS one I will NEVER
forget!!!  One w/nose 'dropped' and one with 'correct' configuration!!!!
Or previous to the SST by a couple years, the DC-8 (with a LOAD of Execs
aboard) doing the med. speed fly-by with max climb out followed by the
full-bore 'speed-by'!!!  Again, un-real!!!!

Camped on the SW corner and to this day do NOT believe the number of
gyro-copters 'buzzing' around at dusk!!!  Like gnats!!! <VBG>!!

Damn, it was fun!!!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug  3 21:10:59 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:10:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Yet ANOTHER use for CATS  (NO LBC)
Message-ID: <1063341328.20080803201059@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,


   I found this stumbling around..

           http://tinyurl.com/6couoq

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "You have the right to remain silent," said Tom arrestingly.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 21:26:43 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:26:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGELHCIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <B8F044F539564EAB8CC4213F7E2F8B28@Larry>

Ed, you missed it this time.  I saw a move that I have never seen before. 
The pilot stood the F-22 on it's tail right over the runway at about a 60 
degree angle and walked it right down the runway.  Unbelievable.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show


<<My bro says we have never run out of beer
before, but we did this time with an hour to go.>>

You just got LUCKY, Larry!!!

I was gonna sneak in to your gig, but had a REALLY bad Friday nite and did
not go to bed until a tad after 8:00AM and up at 3:30PM<VBF>!!  Fri**in'
drugs<F>!!

Had I made it, woulda been SEVERAL hours BEFORE the "...with an hour to
go."!!!  LOL

I HAVE made the EAA event around a dozen time and have NEVER been
dis-appointed!!!!  Just UN-real!!!  The SST fly-by IS one I will NEVER
forget!!!  One w/nose 'dropped' and one with 'correct' configuration!!!!
Or previous to the SST by a couple years, the DC-8 (with a LOAD of Execs
aboard) doing the med. speed fly-by with max climb out followed by the
full-bore 'speed-by'!!!  Again, un-real!!!!

Camped on the SW corner and to this day do NOT believe the number of
gyro-copters 'buzzing' around at dusk!!!  Like gnats!!! <VBG>!!

Damn, it was fun!!!
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 23:02:19 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:02:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question
References: <c18.3fba26c6.35c7ac6b@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00045F1DB64540208192531363F44CE9@blackbox2>

As I recall, Mr. Danielson from NE had those wheels on his spridget.
Maybe he can chime in.

I think the Khumo powerstar 758 in 175/70-13 is a good choice for 5 inch wide rims.
However, I always thought the AR Libre wheel was 5.5 inches wide. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Miniac7 at aol.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question


> I'm finally getting around to fitting a set of 13x5 Amercian Libre wheels  to 
> my Bugeye. For tires I'm considering 185/60HR13 Sumitomo HR200's, which  are 
> available at Tire Rack for $41ea. This is strictly for street use  only.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> ...Have any of you had any experience with this tire, either good or  bad?
> 
> ...Will this tire/wheel combination fit on a stock suspension Bugeye  without 
> rubbing, or any modifications? 
> 
> I'm not sure of the wheel offset but I could measure it if someone on the  
> list has information that would require me to do so.
> 
> Thanks,
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug  3 23:11:26 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 00:11:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Holy Sprite
In-Reply-To: <489650E3.3060807@comcast.net>
References: <489650E3.3060807@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808032211h10706773s87cd46abeafc82f3@mail.gmail.com>

No sweat, Frank!!  I just got an email that says I won a few million pounds
sterling in some lottery in England!!   As soon as I send 'em my bank
information and security stuff, they'll send me the money!

Cheers!!
Jim - 3rd leg of the Holy Sprite Expedition!

On 8/3/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> At a family function tonight I was talking about the Holy Sprite and
> it's trek across the USA.
> A non family member who I know very well whipped out $100 bucks and said
> here you go!
> I just bout a couple tires for the project.
> Now I did not ask for anything but I did say everybody is donating their
> tow vehicles, time and money and he just felt like he had to help out.
> So talk it up at your Bar-B-Qs, who knows, maybe people will dig out
> hundred dollar bills! But $10s will do too :)


<snip>

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 23:14:47 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 01:14:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Yet ANOTHER use for CATS  (NO LBC)
References: <1063341328.20080803201059@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <7477546246E94BE7B356083EEAFEBE18@blackbox2>

How about this..
http://dbhs.wvusd.k12.ca.us/webdocs/Humor/cat-carrier.jpg

From richb at u.washington.edu  Mon Aug  4 07:42:40 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard  Ball)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:42:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
References: <mailman.21021.1217815541.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>

Bill

I saw your Sprite at the show and if I remember correctly you were 
prominently displaying a plaque form some obscure show in Missouri...

Rich Ball
Everett, WA

>       BUT, they were concerned that if such a thing were to happen
>       that they would be competing against the BUG_EYES...
>       apparently, at least the guys I talked to they were there to
>       try to WIN PRIZES?... or PLAQUES?.. or some sort of
>       RECOGNITION?... ... and as we all know .. when they group the
>       Square Bodies with the BE's in the SPRITE group, you won't win
>       anything with the Box sprite.... .. soooo... 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug  4 08:17:39 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:17:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
Message-ID: <20798083.1217859459909.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Alan,

Where did you get the info that you are quoting that the Jaeger guages were used on Bugeyes?  All of the sources that I have read or know about state Jaeger as only being used in the "upscale" MG Midgets.

Thanks,

Mike Carpenter

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan East-Jones <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>
>Sent: Aug 3, 2008 7:37 PM
>To: autox spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
>
>My sprite has a Jaeger  mechanical drive tacho, but there is no drive gear for
>the dynamo end.  Has anyone out there who has modified to alternator who has
>the original gear drive for a dynamo going spare ?
> I'd love to have a working  tacho in the car, if not I might resort to
>fitting an electrical one from a 72 midget , which all the purists will take
>delighty in telling is wrong !
>  Apparantly the Jaeger mech driven tachos were only fitted to bugeyes for a
>short period of time.  The rest of the instruments are also Jaeger - the
>speedo reads about 50% faster than I'm actually doing. So I don't know what
>differential is fitted . I believe the morris minor smooth case gearbox had a
>1:1 top gear like the frogeye , so the mismatch comes from the diff I
>presume.
>Anyone ?
>alan
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Aug  4 09:33:23 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:33:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
In-Reply-To: <330EDEFC6F9A4C21A824717828F5641C@Larry>
References: <20080804001211.B940318786F@autox.team.net>
	<330EDEFC6F9A4C21A824717828F5641C@Larry>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080804102537.0331c918@nosimport.com>

Larry,
         Thank you and your brother. We had a great time, even though 
we left early-ish. I AM glad they don't actually drop any ordnance... 
we were sitting a tad close if they were. The P40 was the only thing 
whistling in a dive. Very cool.
         After the noise from the Raptor, the Mini's "Concerto in 
A-series Minor, Cacophony" was enjoyable as Jane and I buzzed through 
the cornstalks heading home.
         A good time, nice cars, expensive flying machines.


At 09:55 PM 8/3/2008, Larry Daniels wrote:
>Glad you guys enjoyed the party.  My bro says we have never run out of beer
>before, but we did this time with an hour to go.  Well done, boys.  I'm
>proud of the effort, but we'll have more next time.  Let it never be said
>again that we can't buy more beer than you can drink.  ;-))

Think how fast it would've been gone if it had been good beer!  ;-)

Peter C.

=====


>Dave, you are right.  We are very fortunate to have such a nice facility.
>And, no, you cannot move it to Palatine!
>
>Dave G. is also right.  The bombing runs are totally choreographed.  All of
>the explosions are set off on the ground.  Dropping that kind of munitions
>would be way too dangerous.  As long as the EPA doesn't see how much black
>smoke is let out, we will continue to see a good show.
>
>See y'all next year.
>
>LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 09:35:23 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:35:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show
References: <20080804001211.B940318786F@autox.team.net><330EDEFC6F9A4C21A824717828F5641C@Larry>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080804102537.0331c918@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <28E31DF97AF14410A91165B45096972D@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EAA Air Show


Larry,
         Thank you and your brother. We had a great time, even though
we left early-ish. I AM glad they don't actually drop any ordnance...
we were sitting a tad close if they were. The P40 was the only thing
whistling in a dive. Very cool.
         After the noise from the Raptor, the Mini's "Concerto in
A-series Minor, Cacophony" was enjoyable as Jane and I buzzed through
the cornstalks heading home.
         A good time, nice cars, expensive flying machines.


At 09:55 PM 8/3/2008, Larry Daniels wrote:
>Glad you guys enjoyed the party.  My bro says we have never run out of beer
>before, but we did this time with an hour to go.  Well done, boys.  I'm
>proud of the effort, but we'll have more next time.  Let it never be said
>again that we can't buy more beer than you can drink.  ;-))

Think how fast it would've been gone if it had been good beer!  ;-)

Peter C.

=====


It's his place and he doesn't share our appreciation for the finer things. 
I think he was adopted.

LAD 

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Aug  4 10:12:58 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:12:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
Message-ID: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog asked:

I have a squeak coming from the front end of my Midget. What should I check to eliminate this? What are some of the common causes?

TIA,
tinydog

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Mon Aug  4 11:07:11 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:07:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
In-Reply-To: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <4897373F.6010909@lehigh.edu>

tinydog at snet.net wrote:
> tinydog asked:
>
> I have a squeak coming from the front end of my Midget. What should I check to eliminate this? What are some of the common causes?
>
> TIA,
> tinydog
> _______________________________________________
>   
A popular upgrade is replacing the rubber suspension bushings with 
polyurethane, and they may not have been greased properly when 
installed. Ditto with the swaybar bushings. No squeaks from mine in over 
three years, but I greased the ID and the face of each bushing.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug  4 11:11:43 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 10:11:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
In-Reply-To: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <007b01c8f655$2c85d300$ef03f204@spider>

Any place you have metal in a rubber bushing. 
Some auto parts stores have a squirt solution (soapy?) to cancel this out.
...bill in oregon
========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of tinydog at snet.net
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:13 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks

tinydog asked:

I have a squeak coming from the front end of my Midget. What should I check
to eliminate this? What are some of the common causes?

TIA,
tinydog
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Aug  4 11:12:07 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:12:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
In-Reply-To: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A0
	2D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <080420081612.11133.48972A8A000650A200002B7D22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080804120942.038a5890@nosimport.com>

Cat (or a tinydog) in a coil spring?

Inner a-arm bushings, bushed?

Dry shock?

Outer fulcrum pin dry? (which means it is likely toasted)

Peter C
==
At 11:12 AM 8/4/2008, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>tinydog asked:
>
>I have a squeak coming from the front end of my Midget. What should 
>I check to eliminate this? What are some of the common causes?
>
>TIA,
>tinydog

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 11:19:40 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:19:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
Message-ID: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>

I have a problem that is beyond my meager abilities to solve. My '73 
Midget with 1275 still has a few issues it seems. The first is pinking I 
just can't seem to solve. It generally occurs (or is only noticeable) 
under extremely light throttle - say cruising a flat road in 4th around 
40 mph. The distributor was just rebuilt and recurved by Jeff at advance 
distributors. Jeff's instructions were to set timing at 12 - 14 degrees 
BTDC @ idle without vac. (Very tough to see timing scale!!!) I started 
at 12 BTDC, and been retarding and retarding. Just can't get rid of it. 
(I've been running 89 octane gas ). It's down to where it runs like 
s**t... My B series hasn't been as persnickety as this...

Anyway, last night I'm dinking around with it some more, then go to hook 
the vacuum line back up. As soon as I do, I hear the advance diaphragm 
begin vibrating rapidly. I disconnected it, and hooked up a vac gauge, 
and at idle the needle is oscillating between 10 & 15 inches of vacuum. 
I think that was the range, I could be mistaken, however it definitely 
was a variation of 5 inches on the gauge. So, I pull the valve cover and 
recheck all the lash adjustments. found 2 that  were a smidgen loose, 
but not terribly. However, that didn't affect the vacuum at all. Is this 
a potential valve problem?

-- 

Marc

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 11:37:12 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:37:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48973E48.6010906@smarc.net>

I should add that I've been running the car with the vac line 
disconnected (and plugged)....

Marc wrote:
> I have a problem that is beyond my meager abilities to solve. My '73 
> Midget with 1275 still has a few issues it seems. The first is pinking I 
> just can't seem to solve. It generally occurs (or is only noticeable) 
> under extremely light throttle - say cruising a flat road in 4th around 
> 40 mph. The distributor was just rebuilt and recurved by Jeff at advance 
> distributors. Jeff's instructions were to set timing at 12 - 14 degrees 
> BTDC @ idle without vac. (Very tough to see timing scale!!!) I started 
> at 12 BTDC, and been retarding and retarding. Just can't get rid of it. 
> (I've been running 89 octane gas ). It's down to where it runs like 
> s**t... My B series hasn't been as persnickety as this...
>
> Anyway, last night I'm dinking around with it some more, then go to hook 
> the vacuum line back up. As soon as I do, I hear the advance diaphragm 
> begin vibrating rapidly. I disconnected it, and hooked up a vac gauge, 
> and at idle the needle is oscillating between 10 & 15 inches of vacuum. 
> I think that was the range, I could be mistaken, however it definitely 
> was a variation of 5 inches on the gauge. So, I pull the valve cover and 
> recheck all the lash adjustments. found 2 that  were a smidgen loose, 
> but not terribly. However, that didn't affect the vacuum at all. Is this 
> a potential valve problem?
>
>   

-- 

Marc

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Aug  4 11:47:29 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:47:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
> under extremely light throttle -
Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Aug  4 11:49:09 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:49:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48973E48.6010906@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net> <48973E48.6010906@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48974115.9050009@frontiernet.net>

I think I would start with higher octane gas, and get some without 
methanol added if possible. This little guys don't like regular.  Then 
try advancing your timing a bit.  Always try the cheap stuff first.

Kate

Marc wrote:
> I should add that I've been running the car with the vac line 
> disconnected (and plugged)....

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 11:47:06 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:47:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>

What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at all. 

Billy Zoom wrote:
>> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
>> under extremely light throttle -
>>     
> Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?
>
>   

-- 

Marc

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 12:07:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:07:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>

Marc,

Do you mean you have been driving the car without the vacuum line hooked up?
Reconnect it and tell us what it does.

Knocking/pinging related to timing problems/too low octane/improper valve
lash...etc usually is most noticeable under load. Engine overheating can
cause it as can an improperly torqued knock sensor on engines so equipped.
Again, however, it should be most noticeable under load (acceleration or
driving uphill).  A knock or ping while not under load may be something more
diabolical...

On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
> What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at all.
>
>
> Billy Zoom wrote:
> >> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
> >> under extremely light throttle -
> >>
> > Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
>
> Marc
>
> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 12:08:18 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:08:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>	
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48974592.8010507@smarc.net>

I can't hook it up, as the diaphram is vibrating rapidly - don't want to 
destroy a newly rebuilt vac unit.... Oh, and to answer the earlier 
question, the vac line is hooked to the manifold. Am I to understand 
this is incorrect?

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Marc,
>
> Do you mean you have been driving the car without the vacuum line 
> hooked up? Reconnect it and tell us what it does.
>
> Knocking/pinging related to timing problems/too low octane/improper 
> valve lash...etc usually is most noticeable under load. Engine 
> overheating can cause it as can an improperly torqued knock sensor on 
> engines so equipped.  Again, however, it should be most noticeable 
> under load (acceleration or driving uphill).  A knock or ping while 
> not under load may be something more diabolical...
>
> On 8/4/08, *Marc* <smarc at smarc.net <mailto:smarc at smarc.net>> wrote:
>
>     What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at
>     all.
>
>
>     Billy Zoom wrote:
>     >> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
>     >> under extremely light throttle -
>     >>
>     > Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi
>     vacuum?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 12:20:15 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:20:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48974592.8010507@smarc.net>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
	<48974592.8010507@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041120q2042826yc84d3abd84872316@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not entirely sure about this, but if you don't have the vacuum advanced
hooked up, you won't have enough advance at higher revs? I can only guess
that the diaphram is vibrating rapidly because it is expecting vacuum and is
not getting it???  Are you talking about the diaphram in the vacumm advance
unit?  You have to have *some* spark advance at higher rpm or the timing
will be off even at cruising speeds.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
>  I can't hook it up, as the diaphram is vibrating rapidly - don't want to
> destroy a newly rebuilt vac unit.... Oh, and to answer the earlier question,
> the vac line is hooked to the manifold. Am I to understand this is
> incorrect?
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> Marc,
>
> Do you mean you have been driving the car without the vacuum line hooked
> up? Reconnect it and tell us what it does.
>
> Knocking/pinging related to timing problems/too low octane/improper valve
> lash...etc usually is most noticeable under load. Engine overheating can
> cause it as can an improperly torqued knock sensor on engines so equipped.
> Again, however, it should be most noticeable under load (acceleration or
> driving uphill).  A knock or ping while not under load may be something more
> diabolical...
>
> On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>>
>> What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at all.
>>
>>
>> Billy Zoom wrote:
>> >> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
>> >> under extremely light throttle -
>> >>
>> > Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 12:24:53 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:24:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808041120q2042826yc84d3abd84872316@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
	<48974592.8010507@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041120q2042826yc84d3abd84872316@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48974975.3020900@smarc.net>

OK, this is two different issues I think - One is the pinking problem. 
As explained to me, there is some mechanical advance (counter weight 
driven).. I have never had the vacuum unit hooked up. The diaphragm on 
the disty was ruptured when I got the car, so I capped it off to seal 
the resultant vacuum leak.

This is the second issue - now that I have the disty rebuilt, I'm unable 
to hook it up as it vibrates rapidly. Jeff @ advance told me that would 
destroy the new diaphragm, so it's never been hooked up. Perhaps me 
asking about the second problem in the same email is confusing the issue.

Jim Johnson wrote:
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but if you don't have the vacuum advanced
> hooked up, you won't have enough advance at higher revs? I can only guess
> that the diaphram is vibrating rapidly because it is expecting vacuum and is
> not getting it???  Are you talking about the diaphram in the vacumm advance
> unit?  You have to have *some* spark advance at higher rpm or the timing
> will be off even at cruising speeds.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>   
>>  I can't hook it up, as the diaphram is vibrating rapidly - don't want to
>> destroy a newly rebuilt vac unit.... Oh, and to answer the earlier question,
>> the vac line is hooked to the manifold. Am I to understand this is
>> incorrect?
>>
>> Jim Johnson wrote:
>>
>> Marc,
>>
>> Do you mean you have been driving the car without the vacuum line hooked
>> up? Reconnect it and tell us what it does.
>>
>> Knocking/pinging related to timing problems/too low octane/improper valve
>> lash...etc usually is most noticeable under load. Engine overheating can
>> cause it as can an improperly torqued knock sensor on engines so equipped.
>> Again, however, it should be most noticeable under load (acceleration or
>> driving uphill).  A knock or ping while not under load may be something more
>> diabolical...
>>
>> On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>>     
>>> What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at all.
>>>
>>>
>>> Billy Zoom wrote:
>>>       
>>>>> It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
>>>>> under extremely light throttle -
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>
>
>   

-- 

Marc

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug  4 12:35:05 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:35:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net><43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
	<48974592.8010507@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <E8E94CC90E044AA3B7EA682A708F3BEC@NilesAD.von.gov>

Marc,
Manifold vacuum SHOULD be correct on a 1973, IF Jeff rebuilt it for that. 
The issue is that the vacuum source must match the vacuum diaphragm.

The vacuum gauge readings you are currently seeing could be cause by your 
having the timing off. Put the distributor back to the settings Jeff gave 
you and check the vacuum gauge at idle again. There are plenty of websites 
out there that can help you interpret the readings. Once the needle has 
settled back down, hook the blessed vacuum advance back up and drive it. 
Vacuum advance is there to enhance efficiency in part-throttle situations. 
It is quite unlikely that it is causing a real pinking situation.

There are two different kinds of pinking; both involve the fuel charge being 
ignited too soon, but one is caused by ignition timing while the other is 
caused by something in the combustion chamber being so hot that the 
compressing air/fuel mixture is igniting itself or else so much compression 
that it ignites itself like a diesel engine. Your description does not sound 
like pinking in its usual forms. Could you be running too lean? What do your 
plugs look like? For best results, run it for a distance on that flat road 
at 40 so you can hear it, then turn off the engine and coast to the side of 
the road and check the plugs. You might also want to do a compression check 
both dry and wet and let us know what it is doing. It is also a worthwhile 
exercise to find TDC on the #1 cylinder and verify that the timing marks are 
correct.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 12:37:11 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 13:37:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48974975.3020900@smarc.net>
References: <C4BC8EC1.18C1F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4897409A.3040208@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041107r53139a02j5a06f839f73a8f16@mail.gmail.com>
	<48974592.8010507@smarc.net>
	<43840a7e0808041120q2042826yc84d3abd84872316@mail.gmail.com>
	<48974975.3020900@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041137x1a1a536gfd57813ac1110ada@mail.gmail.com>

Ah!!  That's better!  You have a mechanical advance!   Jeff is good at this
stuff - way better than me!

Didn't you say you were using low octane rated gas?  Try it with high
octane.  Low octane gas takes longer to detonate. To compensate I advance
the spark a little.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
>  OK, this is two different issues I think - One is the pinking problem. As
> explained to me, there is some mechanical advance (counter weight driven)..
> I have never had the vacuum unit hooked up. The diaphragm on the disty was
> ruptured when I got the car, so I capped it off to seal the resultant vacuum
> leak.
>
> This is the second issue - now that I have the disty rebuilt, I'm unable to
> hook it up as it vibrates rapidly. Jeff @ advance told me that would destroy
> the new diaphragm, so it's never been hooked up. Perhaps me asking about the
> second problem in the same email is confusing the issue.
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> I'm not entirely sure about this, but if you don't have the vacuum advanced
> hooked up, you won't have enough advance at higher revs? I can only guess
> that the diaphram is vibrating rapidly because it is expecting vacuum and is
> not getting it???  Are you talking about the diaphram in the vacumm advance
> unit?  You have to have *some* spark advance at higher rpm or the timing
> will be off even at cruising speeds.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
>   I can't hook it up, as the diaphram is vibrating rapidly - don't want to
> destroy a newly rebuilt vac unit.... Oh, and to answer the earlier question,
> the vac line is hooked to the manifold. Am I to understand this is
> incorrect?
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> Marc,
>
> Do you mean you have been driving the car without the vacuum line hooked
> up? Reconnect it and tell us what it does.
>
> Knocking/pinging related to timing problems/too low octane/improper valve
> lash...etc usually is most noticeable under load. Engine overheating can
> cause it as can an improperly torqued knock sensor on engines so equipped.
> Again, however, it should be most noticeable under load (acceleration or
> driving uphill).  A knock or ping while not under load may be something more
> diabolical...
>
> On 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
>
>  What I wasn't clear about is the advance has NOT been hooked up at all.
>
>
> Billy Zoom wrote:
>
>  It generally occurs (or is only noticeable)
> under extremely light throttle -
>
>            Do you have it hooked up to manifold vacuum instead of venturi vacuum?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Marc
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Aug  4 13:07:16 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 14:07:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
Message-ID: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>

Speaking of shaken engine syndrome...I know my timing is close but not the best by static timing it and banging things around.

so after I get a timing light, do I actually have to go down under the front of the car to get a reading?  Is it really a 2 person job?

thanks
Chris
66 MKIII
Brookfield, WI

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug  4 13:13:36 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:13:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] timing mark
In-Reply-To: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
References: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
Message-ID: <000001c8f666$332b1e20$e61ef304@spider>

Mark the top of the crank pulley, when the bottom is where you want it; with
motor turned off. ...bill
=================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:07 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem

Speaking of shaken engine syndrome...I know my timing is close but not the
best by static timing it and banging things around.

so after I get a timing light, do I actually have to go down under the front
of the car to get a reading?  Is it really a 2 person job?

thanks
Chris
66 MKIII
Brookfield, WI
_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Aug  4 13:14:09 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:14:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
Message-ID: <C4BCA311.18C3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>   Is it really a 2 person job?
You guys don't put timing pointers on your engines?
Just cut one out of sheet metal and put it under one of the bolts on the
timing cover. Then put a mark on the flywheel next to it.
If you really have time on your hands, use a dial gauge to find exact TDC
instead of just using the factory marks.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 14:14:13 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:14:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
Message-ID: <bdf.37ab7a97.35c8bd15@aol.com>

To be honest you need an engine that makes more noise.  That will  quickly 
prevent you from hearing any squeaking
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 04/08/2008 18:12:02 GMT Daylight Time,  
corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:

I have a  squeak coming from the front end of my Midget. What should I check
to  eliminate this?

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug  4 14:18:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:18:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
References: <bdf.37ab7a97.35c8bd15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <ED343FC590024FEB97AD596D3E69DD56@NilesAD.von.gov>

> To be honest you need an engine that makes more noise.  That will  quickly
> prevent you from hearing any squeaking

Do you suppose that Veloce.co.uk might have a book to show what header and 
muffler to use for this application?
Lorry Denials 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 14:32:40 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:32:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers!
*
Just a note to let you all know that you can view the individual pictures
taken at Lake of the Ozarks from Dale Delugosh's web page at:

http://tinyurl.com/5lwsbp

You can also purchase additional copies from there if you want them. I know
everyone will want mine   ;-)

Also, Dale informs that he is well underway on the video editing for the
much anticipate DVD of the event!  The price is only $20 and the link for
ordering a DVD is:

**http://tinyurl.com/5fkf3x

If you couldn't be there, here's your chance to experience the fun anyway!

Cheers!!
Jim & the whole 50th committee
*

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 14:43:22 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:43:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Holy Sprite
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808032211h10706773s87cd46abeafc82f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <489650E3.3060807@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0808032211h10706773s87cd46abeafc82f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <489769EA.2000507@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> No sweat, Frank!!  I just got an email that says I won a few million 
> pounds sterling in some lottery in England!! 
You too!
I can't send them the processing fee until one of my 19 Nigerian uncles 
sends me all those millions I inherited.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 14:41:02 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:41:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] timing mark
In-Reply-To: <000001c8f666$332b1e20$e61ef304@spider>
References: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
	<000001c8f666$332b1e20$e61ef304@spider>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041341p3f01fa12i51a656f5e37c408b@mail.gmail.com>

I bought a timing mark relocation kit from Jeff Schlemmer at Advanced
Distributors and installed it. I love it!!  Only $20, too!  Go to:
advanceddistributors.com

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:13 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Mark the top of the crank pulley, when the bottom is where you want it;
> with
> motor turned off. ...bill
> =================================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis <spridgets-bounces%2Bcorvallis>=
> peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
> Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: Spridget List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
>
> Speaking of shaken engine syndrome...I know my timing is close but not the
> best by static timing it and banging things around.
>
> so after I get a timing light, do I actually have to go down under the
> front
> of the car to get a reading?  Is it really a 2 person job?
>
> thanks
> Chris
> 66 MKIII
> Brookfield, WI
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Aug  4 15:45:21 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:45:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Front-End Squeaks
In-Reply-To: <ED343FC590024FEB97AD596D3E69DD56@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAENPCIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Do you suppose that Veloce.co.uk might have a book to show what header and
muffler to use for this application?>>

If it doesn't David, do you suppose a google search for Westlake Valve
Covers might????

Loopy Daniels

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 14:55:05 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:55:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>

Marc wrote:
> I have a problem that is beyond my meager abilities to solve.

I was experiencing the same problem only to find a blown head gasket.
Water in the cylinder. My hearing is shot but my wife could hear it.
She can hear the squeaking brakes on the Jag, I can't so it doesn't 
bother me ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 14:59:01 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:59:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
References: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
Message-ID: <48976D95.9030107@comcast.net>

What everybody sort of forgets when timing a 30-50 year old Spridget is 
that those harmonic balancers with the rubber in them tend to walk over 
time. So the original mark is where it was back in 1967 but the rubber 
is not what it used to be and will give a false reading.
So I just do it by the seat of my pants anyway.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tinydog at snet.net  Mon Aug  4 15:02:47 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:02:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog is wondering:

Is there is who's-who guide to the cars and their owners?

 -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>:
--------------


> Spridgeteers!
> *
> Just a note to let you all know that you can view the individual pictures
> taken at Lake of the Ozarks from Dale Delugosh's web page at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5lwsbp
>
> You can also purchase additional copies from there if you want them. I know
> everyone will want mine   ;-)
>
> Also, Dale informs that he is well underway on the video editing for the
> much anticipate DVD of the event!  The price is only $20 and the link for
> ordering a DVD is:
>
> **http://tinyurl.com/5fkf3x
>
> If you couldn't be there, here's your chance to experience the fun anyway!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim & the whole 50th committee

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Aug  4 15:12:56 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:12:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A0
	2D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
	<080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4f8gqt@email.mtu.edu>

At 05:02 PM 8/4/2008, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
>tinydog is wondering:
>
>Is there is who's-who guide to the cars and their owners?

Ya, I agree. You can't  tell the players without a scorecard!


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Mon Aug  4 15:27:01 2008
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (James F Juhas)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:27:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
In-Reply-To: <F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>
References: <mailman.21021.1217815541.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>
Message-ID: <48977425.8090603@snet.net>

Although they are distinctive in only the smallest of ways, Sprites 
deserve recognition because that was the original marque of the 
species.  We have a nice little 1966 Sprite (and earlier had a 1969) and 
don't mind at all competing with the side curtain cars or Frogeyes.  But 
we're special with a more direct line to the original.  When this comes 
up at our MG club, I vote enthusiastically to keep Sprites separate.


Richard Ball wrote:
> Bill
>
> I saw your Sprite at the show and if I remember correctly you were 
> prominently displaying a plaque form some obscure show in Missouri...
>
> Rich Ball
> Everett, WA
>
>   
>>       BUT, they were concerned that if such a thing were to happen
>>       that they would be competing against the BUG_EYES...
>>       apparently, at least the guys I talked to they were there to
>>       try to WIN PRIZES?... or PLAQUES?.. or some sort of
>>       RECOGNITION?... ... and as we all know .. when they group the
>>       Square Bodies with the BE's in the SPRITE group, you won't win
>>       anything with the Box sprite.... .. soooo... 
>>     
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 15:36:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:36:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <6t8mot$4f8gqt@email.mtu.edu>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
	<080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<6t8mot$4f8gqt@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041436h5c82fa62md3c8796ae7340f2e@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry.  No such guide exists.  These are the shots put up by the commercial
photog that did the shoot. No attempt by him to identify everyone as he
didn't know anybody anyway....  You'll just have to guess.  I'll give you a
hint. I'm the tall, muscular, good looking guy with the beautiful
Midget....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Timothy H. Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:

> At 05:02 PM 8/4/2008, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
> >tinydog is wondering:
> >
> >Is there is who's-who guide to the cars and their owners?
>
> Ya, I agree. You can't  tell the players without a scorecard!
>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 15:49:39 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:49:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
	<080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808041449m73c928b9g4f97de38ce5ad691@mail.gmail.com>

That is Martha and I with the red 68 Sprite with the mis-matched Raydyot
front lamps.

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:02 PM, <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:

> tinydog is wondering:
>
> Is there is who's-who guide to the cars and their owners?
>
>  -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>:
> --------------
>
>
> > Spridgeteers!
> > *
> > Just a note to let you all know that you can view the individual pictures
> > taken at Lake of the Ozarks from Dale Delugosh's web page at:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/5lwsbp
> >
> > You can also purchase additional copies from there if you want them. I
> know
> > everyone will want mine   ;-)
> >
> > Also, Dale informs that he is well underway on the video editing for the
> > much anticipate DVD of the event!  The price is only $20 and the link for
> > ordering a DVD is:
> >
> > **http://tinyurl.com/5fkf3x
> >
> > If you couldn't be there, here's your chance to experience the fun
> anyway!
> >
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim & the whole 50th committee
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug  4 15:52:20 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:52:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com><080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<e98d88090808041449m73c928b9g4f97de38ce5ad691@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <266E796A8906433082F17604D56D1F34@NilesAD.von.gov>

My cars are not in there and neither am I.
David Lieb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug  4 15:55:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:55:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <266E796A8906433082F17604D56D1F34@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
	<080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<e98d88090808041449m73c928b9g4f97de38ce5ad691@mail.gmail.com>
	<266E796A8906433082F17604D56D1F34@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808041455s7235c1dbp42993b143bab876c@mail.gmail.com>

Where the heck were you and Trish?  I can understand it if the picture of
you didn't turn out, but not Trish!    ;-)   You did get a picture, didn't
you?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 4:52 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> My cars are not in there and neither am I.
> David Lieb
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Aug  4 16:58:10 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:58:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <266E796A8906433082F17604D56D1F34@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEOICIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<My cars are not in there and neither am I.>>

Me and "Amber" neither<F>, David!!

BUT it wasn't the photogs fault!!  

Hydrocoden/APAP 10/325 (Vicodene) x 2 WAS 'at fault'<G>.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug  4 16:06:51 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:06:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
References: <mailman.21021.1217815541.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net><F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>
	<48977425.8090603@snet.net>
Message-ID: <7CD29CC5AD4A4748A3A93232A25C0220@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Although they are distinctive in only the smallest of ways, Sprites 
> deserve recognition because that was the original marque of the 
> species.  We have a nice little 1966 Sprite (and earlier had a 1969) and 
> don't mind at all competing with the side curtain cars or Frogeyes.  But 
> we're special with a more direct line to the original.  When this comes 
> up at our MG club, I vote enthusiastically to keep Sprites separate.

What utter balderdash! Your box Sprites have no more of a "direct 
line to the original" than the same year of Midget does. Your Sprites 
were made on the same assembly line (MG plant in Abingdon) as the 
Midgets by the same people out of the same parts. No, there were no 
Bugeye Midgets and no 1500 Sprites, but they were all effectively the 
same car. It is true that Bugeyes tend to have an advantage over the 
rest at a car show, but them's the breaks. The 1500s tend to have an 
advantage autocrossing due to their torquier engines. Darn. 

Remember the old adage of "divide and conquer" that worked so well for 
the Romans? It works on Spridgets, too. If you want a plaque so bad 
that you are afraid to compete with other Spridgets for it, let me know 
and I will send you your very own plaque. Spridgets should be about 
friends with common interests and shows should be an opportunity
to get together with those friends. Do you know what the dollar value of 
that plaque is? Care to find out how many people know or care that
your car won a trophy? Look inside your shoes, that's the only place you 
will find someone who cares. At our local British car show, the Sprites 
park with the Heavey Healeys and the Midgets park with the 
MG WannaBees. Dunno what they are gonna do with me this year if I 
show up with one of each ;-) I dearly wish we could park together, but
I am not the organizing type, so I will probably never see it happen. 
David Lieb

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug  4 16:11:18 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:11:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEOICIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEOICIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <48977E86.5030708@comcast.net>

Ed's Shop wrote:
>
> Me and "Amber" neither<F>, David!!
>
> BUT it wasn't the photogs fault!!  
>
> Hydrocoden/APAP 10/325 (Vicodene) x 2 WAS 'at fault'<G>.
>   
aka Miller Lite

I am standing next to my green 67


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Aug  4 16:21:58 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:21:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS:  Hard Top   NOW: halfshafts
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20080803184851.00d15238@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <1067109986.20080803152406@pacifier.com>
	<4.1.20080803184851.00d15238@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029219FB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

So, Bob, any BTA806...or maybe BTA940 half shafts out there in "the
hospice" for a racer down on his luck?
JohnD

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spruck [mailto:mgmaven at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:56 PM
To: Bill L; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hard Top

....6 parts cars out back in the woods in my Spridget Hospice....

From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU  Mon Aug  4 16:43:57 2008
From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:43:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] On the road again...
Message-ID: <EA8AF4CA-2E33-4C81-B880-4C256DE01C7F@dartmouth.edu>

So after a year and a couple months I finally took my midget out for  
an extended drive - maiden voyage of 58 miles - back roads not  
straying too far from home "just in case".

Ran like a top - did notice what appears to be an occasional and ever  
so subtle 'stutter' - seems to be more trans/rear drive train than  
engine as RPMs hold steady. Only noticeable  on or post acceleration  
and it seems to fade maybe only happens on an incline? Clutch? Trans?  
Diff? still trying to sort it out.

Drives like a top too- maybe better than it runs - nothing like an  
entire front suspension rebuild to really enhance the driving  
experience.

Now I just need to keep ahead of the rust demons and all is good at  
the ranch.

What is good MPG for these beasts anyway?

cheers,
-m

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Mon Aug  4 17:08:57 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:08:57 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] help getting "it" home?
Message-ID: <3529635.1217891337308.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

no , contrary to most thoughts about my whereabouts , i'm not dead!  LOL!  very much alive trying to move my "fleet" of stuff much closer to kevin than he knows! *wink*(yes larry , all of it! ;)  )
i have an engine block sitting at jay's place for way too long now.  it's too heavy for me to afford to get it shipped and too far with today's gas prices to go myself and retrieve it.  can anyone help convey it towards my central eastern pennsylvania location?  
i'd love to relieve jay of it if at all possible , and i kinda need it..
any assistance would be greatly apreciated!

chuck
same darn bugeye since 1974......

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 17:38:07 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:38:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net> <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <489792DF.1030701@smarc.net>

I took a small piece of aluminum rod, drilled a 1/16" hole thru it, 
turned down the ends in a lathe so the vacuum line hoses would fit over 
it, and that seems to have smoothed out the fluttering diaphragm on the 
distributor.

Gonna go for a drive and see about the pinking... Expect that probe will 
still be there...

-- 

Marc

From pvanwig at charter.net  Mon Aug  4 17:49:55 2008
From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:49:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
 Brass
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c8d31a$f10d99f0$6501a8c0@shop>
References: <E1K9aru-0007je-Vk@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<00aa01c8d31a$f10d99f0$6501a8c0@shop>
Message-ID: <CA2DAD63FC1643A79ADE64B69A32FAC1@PaulsLaptop>

PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals 

 

 

Paul Van Wig

pvanwig at charter.net

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Ed's Shop
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:17 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sleeving master/brake cylinders - Stainless vs.
Brass

 

<<But don't get me wrong.  I am one of those who favor the drawing and

quartering PETA nutters.>>

 

Nail on the head, Buster !!!  <VBG>

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 18:07:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] timing mark - roll your own
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808041341p3f01fa12i51a656f5e37c408b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63881.39879.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> I bought a timing mark relocation kit from Jeff Schlemmer at
> Advanced
> Distributors and installed it. I love it!!  Only $20, too! 

Jeff is the best at what he does, but if he ever runs out of these, just take a piece of aluminum about 2 inches long, drill a 5/16 hole in one end, cut or grind the other to a point, bend it 90 degrees just below the hole, remove the timing cover bolt and washer at the 9 o'clock position under the alternator bracket, put the pointer under that bolt. Dab some white paint/whiteout/nail polish on the point. Resist the urge to use a cut up beer can for this, although it would probably work.

Find TDC via valve position (#4 intake valve just opening, exhaust valve closing). Verify underneath the car, if you like, that the timing mark is at TDC (you'll never need to do that again after you're done). Stand where you would be next to the car if you were shooting the timing and dab paint on the crank pulley in your line of sight with the remote pointer. Use a dial back timing light and you only need the TDC mark.

Ron

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Aug  4 18:16:28 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:16:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
In-Reply-To: <489792DF.1030701@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net> <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>
	<489792DF.1030701@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48979BDC.8020307@smarc.net>

So, I went for a drive, and of course, I still hear the rattle at light 
throttle. Pulling in to my garage, I stop just part way in, wanting to 
check my alignment driving up onto the lift (not much room to spare 
between the lift's treads). Anyway, just happened to catch an echo off 
the wall of the garage - it's that damned rattle. Getting back into the  
car, I happened to ever so slightly depress the clutch and the noise STOPS.

A little experimenting and when I rev the engine to about 2800 rpm, I 
hear what I THOUGHT was pinking. Depressing the clutch pedal about inch 
& a half makes the noise subside...

Not great news, but at least it's not the engine...

As you may recall, I had a buttload of troubles with the new clutch, 
ultimately pulling it, and installing the old one. Then the problem with 
the smoking throw out bearing... solved (or so I thought) by shortening 
the pushrod a tiny bit...

Guess that saga isn't quite done yet...


Marc wrote:
> I took a small piece of aluminum rod, drilled a 1/16" hole thru it, 
> turned down the ends in a lathe so the vacuum line hoses would fit over 
> it, and that seems to have smoothed out the fluttering diaphragm on the 
> distributor.
>
> Gonna go for a drive and see about the pinking... Expect that probe will 
> still be there...
>
>   

-- 

Marc

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 18:32:55 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:32:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
In-Reply-To: <48979BDC.8020307@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <758905.39470.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:
> car, I happened to ever so slightly depress the clutch and
> the noise STOPS.

Could be the TO bearing is maybe just touching the pressure plate fingers. There is no positive return for it unless you gin up a spring, which is just another thing to fail. I wouldn't sweat it terribly.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 19:29:43 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 18:29:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carhenge
Message-ID: <912683.1003.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I would have guessed northern Wisconsin for this story, but even the junk cars are rust free, so it couldn't be:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_fe_st/odd_car_fence

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug  4 19:31:52 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:31:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff
References: <20080804.103151.19317.2@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020u661bdd81ya2566ade0e402d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020h222c07cdr549a899c17feb169@mail.gmail.com>
	<009c01c8f65c$e9bc1220$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<BD94AE374961493E972026DF098660D8@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00df01c8f677$f0fa3650$0200a8c0@mosipik>
Message-ID: <01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>

I went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round trailer 
light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer. Is anyone else 
going to need this along the way? If so, I will send it along, but if not, 
it will come back with me. 

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Mon Aug  4 19:45:53 2008
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:45:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WAS:  Hard Top   NOW: halfshafts
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029219FB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.m
	ed.va.gov>
References: <4.1.20080803184851.00d15238@mail.bellsouth.net>
	<1067109986.20080803152406@pacifier.com>
	<4.1.20080803184851.00d15238@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <4.1.20080804214428.00d25698@mail.bellsouth.net>

Sorry, John, I'm keeping the axles and the diffs for my racer.

Bob

At 06:21 PM 8/4/2008 -0400, Deikis, John G wrote:
>So, Bob, any BTA806...or maybe BTA940 half shafts out there in "the
>hospice" for a racer down on his luck?
>JohnD
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Spruck [mailto:mgmaven at bellsouth.net] 
>Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:56 PM
>To: Bill L; spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hard Top
>
>....6 parts cars out back in the woods in my Spridget Hospice....
>
>
>
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 19:46:44 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:46:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel / Tire Question Take 2
Message-ID: <bfa.1fb7bd36.35c90b04@aol.com>

Okay folks...one more shot at this. For anyone who has run 185/60's on 5"  
wide wheels on a stock Bugeye, please let me know if you've ever experienced  
rubbing or interference problems with bodywork or suspension components. I've  
had great response to my initial question, but alot of those talked about  
problems associated with 195's or 205's.
 
I also might add that I plan to lower the car just a tad.
 
Thanks again all,
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.



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From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Aug  4 20:04:13 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:04:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question
In-Reply-To: <00045F1DB64540208192531363F44CE9@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <637E7717B7D84D46BC5439C26DBF456B@HERBYZ>

Yes, the AR Libre (and copies) came in 5 inch width. I have several sets of
them, 3 sets currently in the garage and a few more in storage.

Since I don't have mine on yet I can't answer the tire fit question on a
Spridget though. I currently have Minators with 165/70's which fit perfect.
175 width tires are tight on a square arch but they will fit with a little
fender clearance work (AKA baseball bat treatment).

A 5 inch wheel is the minimum recommended for a 185/60-13 tire. 5.5 or 6 is
much better.

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dean Hedin
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:02 PM
To: Miniac7 at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question

As I recall, Mr. Danielson from NE had those wheels on his spridget.
Maybe he can chime in.

I think the Khumo powerstar 758 in 175/70-13 is a good choice for 5 inch
wide rims.
However, I always thought the AR Libre wheel was 5.5 inches wide. 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Miniac7 at aol.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tire / Wheel Combination / Question


> I'm finally getting around to fitting a set of 13x5 Amercian Libre wheels
to 
> my Bugeye. For tires I'm considering 185/60HR13 Sumitomo HR200's, which
are 
> available at Tire Rack for $41ea. This is strictly for street use  only.
> 
> Two questions:
> 
> ...Have any of you had any experience with this tire, either good or  bad?
> 
> ...Will this tire/wheel combination fit on a stock suspension Bugeye
without 
> rubbing, or any modifications? 
> 
> I'm not sure of the wheel offset but I could measure it if someone on the

> list has information that would require me to do so.
> 
> Thanks,
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug  4 20:56:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:56:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
In-Reply-To: <F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>
References: <mailman.21021.1217815541.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan>
Message-ID: <832410938.20080804195647@pacifier.com>

Hello Richard,

     Yes i displayed the BADGE of HONOR.. but i had to BUY IT!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug  4 21:02:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 20:02:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Spridgets" Pictures & DVD
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808041449m73c928b9g4f97de38ce5ad691@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60d408fa0808041328p86b177ay9096b172c0031ba0@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041332l135541ffm1c6bcda7e1e1a987@mail.gmail.com>
	<080420082102.12534.48976E7700065B2D000030F622230682229B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<e98d88090808041449m73c928b9g4f97de38ce5ad691@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1078651976.20080804200247@pacifier.com>

Hello Brad,

     i have the only box sprite with a black grill and that's my son
     andrew with me!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  "Mr. Worf, blow the Windows-powered Borg ship out of this Universe!" 

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Aug  4 22:30:04 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:30:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
Message-ID: <489774DC.22286.2EBAE40@dmg.bossig.com>

Hi Folks,

A question about the sump...

I would like to replace the sump on The Beast.... it's been badly bashed in 
underneath! --- asper usual !!
I do have what I think is a fair condition replacement sump...
Here's the question(s)...
Can this be done from underneath without pulling the engine?
What do I do with the semi-circular cut-outs at the front and back of the 
sump?
I know they are for oil seals but is there a special trick to make sure they 
don't leak when I fit them?
I don't want to be another Exxon Valdez...

Any other "hints and kinks" for doing this???

TIA...
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug  4 22:41:43 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:41:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
In-Reply-To: <489774DC.22286.2EBAE40@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <489774DC.22286.2EBAE40@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <32738841-8E09-4999-BB19-105324131870@mac.com>

Dave,

Yes the sump can be replaced from underneath - do not have to pull,  
mover or other wise reposition the engine.  A 7/16 socket with a long  
extension makes for a quick and easy job.  The last time I did this  
the half circles were cork, maybe still are.  Anyway what worked for  
me was to press them into the slot on the pan then cut them with  
about a 1/8 inch over size on both sides.  This makes it a little  
harder to get the bolts started but compresses the cork for a good seal.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition




On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> A question about the sump...
>
> I would like to replace the sump on The Beast.... it's been badly  
> bashed in
> underneath! --- asper usual !!
> I do have what I think is a fair condition replacement sump...
> Here's the question(s)...
> Can this be done from underneath without pulling the engine?
> What do I do with the semi-circular cut-outs at the front and back  
> of the
> sump?
> I know they are for oil seals but is there a special trick to make  
> sure they
> don't leak when I fit them?
> I don't want to be another Exxon Valdez...
>
> Any other "hints and kinks" for doing this???
>
> TIA...
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 01:01:41 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:01:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carhenge
In-Reply-To: <912683.1003.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <912683.1003.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808050001sdb0f6ecl9aa7e737752f40b4@mail.gmail.com>

There is also one just off I-40 in the Texas Panhandle and another in the
Nebraska panhandle south of Chadron. At one time years ago, the one in the
Texas panhandle was all Cadillacs!

http://www.carhenge.com

http://www.travbuddy.com/Amarillo-travel-guide-116490

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/4/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I would have guessed northern Wisconsin for this story, but even the junk
> cars are rust free, so it couldn't be:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080804/ap_on_fe_st/odd_car_fence
> _______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 01:03:08 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 02:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff
In-Reply-To: <01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>
References: <20080804.103151.19317.2@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020u661bdd81ya2566ade0e402d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020h222c07cdr549a899c17feb169@mail.gmail.com>
	<009c01c8f65c$e9bc1220$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<BD94AE374961493E972026DF098660D8@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00df01c8f677$f0fa3650$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808050003w52597edcu783371d399dee5ae@mail.gmail.com>

I have one too.  I can send it along as well...

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/4/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>
> I went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round trailer
> light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer. Is anyone else
> going to need this along the way? If so, I will send it along, but if not,
> it will come back with me.

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug  5 06:31:32 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:31:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
Message-ID: <31305817.1217939492497.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Frank has the best answer for setting timing.  It is very easy to do if you go by ear and feel when setting it.  Just make sure that you are burning the grade of fuel that you plan to use most often when setting the timing.  I have used the guns many times before I still wind-up restting the engine to what feels right.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Sent: Aug 4, 2008 4:59 PM
>To: cmanuel at wi.rr.com
>Cc: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
>
>What everybody sort of forgets when timing a 30-50 year old Spridget is 
>that those harmonic balancers with the rubber in them tend to walk over 
>time. So the original mark is where it was back in 1967 but the rubber 
>is not what it used to be and will give a false reading.
>So I just do it by the seat of my pants anyway.
>
>-- 
>Frank Clarici
>Toms River, NJ
>_______________________________________________


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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Aug  5 07:48:40 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:48:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Handoff
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808050003w52597edcu783371d399dee5ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000801c8f701$f8ad6400$6701a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

My old truck has the flat four connector, so it's ready to go.  I also
have 1 7/8" and 2" hitch balls on hand.
One bit of information we should have, just in case, is what size lug
nuts the trailer uses, so that we can carry the appropriate size wrench.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:03 AM
To: David Lieb
Cc: Spridgets; mosipik at datacolor.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff

I have one too.  I can send it along as well...

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/4/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>
> I went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round
trailer
> light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer. Is
anyone else
> going to need this along the way? If so, I will send it along, but if
not,
> it will come back with me.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 08:10:04 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:10:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
In-Reply-To: <32738841-8E09-4999-BB19-105324131870@mac.com>
References: <489774DC.22286.2EBAE40@dmg.bossig.com>
	<32738841-8E09-4999-BB19-105324131870@mac.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805090724.03bab3e8@nosimport.com>

I agree with Bob, except I don't trim the cork, or I use the newly 
supplied rubber. Also, I use a small jack to hold the pan tight to 
the block. Of course I am lying on my back. Maybe if I had a lift I'd 
do it differently. Some folks invert the pan on the workbench with 
the gaskets glued on and lots of weight on it overnight.
         Peter C.
====
At 11:41 PM 8/4/2008, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Yes the sump can be replaced from underneath - do not have to pull,
>mover or other wise reposition the engine.  A 7/16 socket with a long
>extension makes for a quick and easy job.  The last time I did this
>the half circles were cork, maybe still are.  Anyway what worked for
>me was to press them into the slot on the pan then cut them with
>about a 1/8 inch over size on both sides.  This makes it a little
>harder to get the bolts started but compresses the cork for a good seal.
>
>Bob Kitterer
>
>1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Dave G. wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > A question about the sump...
> >
> > I would like to replace the sump on The Beast.... it's been badly
> > bashed in
> > underneath! --- asper usual !!
> > I do have what I think is a fair condition replacement sump...
> > Here's the question(s)...
> > Can this be done from underneath without pulling the engine?
> > What do I do with the semi-circular cut-outs at the front and back
> > of the
> > sump?
> > I know they are for oil seals but is there a special trick to make
> > sure they
> > don't leak when I fit them?
> > I don't want to be another Exxon Valdez...
> >
> > Any other "hints and kinks" for doing this???
> >
> > TIA...
> > --
> > Dave G.   KK7SS
> > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> >
> > The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com
> >
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> >
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>_______________________________________________
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>
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Aug  5 10:02:43 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:02:43 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
Message-ID: <20080805.090243.24344.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

IMHO, checking the threaded holes in the block flange for 'pull-out' is very
worthwhile.  Any that protrude above the flange surface should be very lightly
chamfered to bring them down to flush.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- Peter C <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
I agree with Bob, except I don't trim the cork, or I use the newly
supplied rubber. Also, I use a small jack to hold the pan tight to
the block. Of course I am lying on my back. Maybe if I had a lift I'd
do it differently. Some folks invert the pan on the workbench with
the gaskets glued on and lots of weight on it overnight.
         Peter C.
====
At 11:41 PM 8/4/2008, Kitterer Bob wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Yes the sump can be replaced from underneath - do not have to pull,
>mover or other wise reposition the engine.  A 7/16 socket with a long
>extension makes for a quick and easy job.  The last time I did this
>the half circles were cork, maybe still are.  Anyway what worked for
>me was to press them into the slot on the pan then cut them with
>about a 1/8 inch over size on both sides.  This makes it a little
>harder to get the bolts started but compresses the cork for a good seal.
>
>Bob Kitterer
>
>1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:30 PM, Dave G. wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > A question about the sump...
> >
> > I would like to replace the sump on The Beast.... it's been badly
> > bashed in
> > underneath! --- asper usual !!
> > I do have what I think is a fair condition replacement sump...
> > Here's the question(s)...
> > Can this be done from underneath without pulling the engine?
> > What do I do with the semi-circular cut-outs at the front and back
> > of the
> > sump?
> > I know they are for oil seals but is there a special trick to make
> > sure they
> > don't leak when I fit them?
> > I don't want to be another Exxon Valdez...
> >
> > Any other "hints and kinks" for doing this???
> >
> > TIA...
> > --
> > Dave G.   KK7SS
> > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> >
> > The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com
> >
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> >
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>
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From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Aug  5 10:10:15 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:10:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
In-Reply-To: <20080805.090243.24344.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <080520081610.16346.48987B670003AA8300003FDA22230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog asked:

This is a very good discussion, but would these same recommendations for a 1274 Sump also apply to a 1275 sump?

Thanks.

From smarc at smarc.net  Tue Aug  5 10:11:12 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:11:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
In-Reply-To: <48979BDC.8020307@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net> <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>
	<489792DF.1030701@smarc.net> <48979BDC.8020307@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <48987BA0.2070005@smarc.net>

I figured I'd see if maybe the rattling was just too much play in the 
fork / slave connection. Maybe I had made the push rod a lil too short? 
So I pulled the pushrod out, built it up a bit with my mig. Put it back 
in, and I had lost my clutch pedal. Arrrrrgh! Dang, brand new slave too, 
wouldn't have expected it to be so touchy!  Air must've got in, cause no 
fluid came out...


> Guess that saga isn't quite done yet...
>   
-- 

Marc

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug  5 10:27:59 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:27:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
In-Reply-To: <080520081610.16346.48987B670003AA8300003FDA22230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <20080805.090243.24344.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>,
	<080520081610.16346.48987B670003AA8300003FDA22230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <48981D1F.13657.54D8C3@dmg.bossig.com>

I meant to ask about the 1274.86cc engine   <Grin>

On 5 Aug 2008 at 16:10, tinydog at snet.net wrote:

>> This is a very good discussion, but would these same recommendations
>> for a 1274 Sump also apply to a 1275 sump?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 10:42:42 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:42:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
Message-ID: <c64.2b06c41f.35c9dd02@aol.com>

Maybe you could weld them together at the top of doors or something?
 
 
In a message dated 04/08/2008 23:07:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

I dearly  wish we could park together

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Aug  5 10:48:03 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
In-Reply-To: <48987BA0.2070005@smarc.net>
References: <48973A2C.7000409@smarc.net> <48976CA9.4000304@comcast.net>
	<489792DF.1030701@smarc.net> <48979BDC.8020307@smarc.net>
	<48987BA0.2070005@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <4FD566A8-762A-4846-9F22-3D64911D08D4@valentinephoto.net>

On Aug 5, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Marc wrote:

> I figured I'd see if maybe the rattling was just too much play in the
> fork / slave connection. Maybe I had made the push rod a lil too  
> short?
> So I pulled the pushrod out, built it up a bit with my mig. Put it  
> back
> in, and I had lost my clutch pedal. Arrrrrgh! Dang, brand new slave  
> too,
> wouldn't have expected it to be so touchy!  Air must've got in,  
> cause no
> fluid came out...

Marc,

I just went thru this on a 73 Midget.....

If the slave rod is too long the clutch will be pushed too far and it  
will act like it is not working.  It is actually being pushed past  
the point where it is disengaging. Try pushing the clutch in part way  
to see if it will disengage.  If it does, the rod is too long.

Kevin V.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Aug  5 10:58:13 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 12:58:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking of which
In-Reply-To: <7CD29CC5AD4A4748A3A93232A25C0220@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <mailman.21021.1217815541.1200.spridgets@autox.team.net><F1EBD15F5D524E11AF33D76CB1A84B2E@richandsusan><48977425.8090603@snet.net>
	<7CD29CC5AD4A4748A3A93232A25C0220@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A02@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

David:
There you go letting that hot Brazilian influence show!
Calm down!!!
JD

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:07 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speaking of which

> Although they are distinctive in only the smallest of ways, Sprites
> deserve recognition because that was the original marque of the
> species.  We have a nice little 1966 Sprite (and earlier had a 1969)
and
> don't mind at all competing with the side curtain cars or Frogeyes.
But
> we're special with a more direct line to the original.  When this
comes
> up at our MG club, I vote enthusiastically to keep Sprites separate.

What utter balderdash! Your box Sprites have no more of a "direct
line to the original" than the same year of Midget does. Your Sprites
were made on the same assembly line (MG plant in Abingdon) as the
Midgets by the same people out of the same parts. No, there were no
Bugeye Midgets and no 1500 Sprites, but they were all effectively the
same car. It is true that Bugeyes tend to have an advantage over the
rest at a car show, but them's the breaks. The 1500s tend to have an
advantage autocrossing due to their torquier engines. Darn.

Remember the old adage of "divide and conquer" that worked so well for
the Romans? It works on Spridgets, too. If you want a plaque so bad
that you are afraid to compete with other Spridgets for it, let me know
and I will send you your very own plaque. Spridgets should be about
friends with common interests and shows should be an opportunity
to get together with those friends. Do you know what the dollar value of

that plaque is? Care to find out how many people know or care that
your car won a trophy? Look inside your shoes, that's the only place you

will find someone who cares. At our local British car show, the Sprites
park with the Heavey Healeys and the Midgets park with the
MG WannaBees. Dunno what they are gonna do with me this year if I
show up with one of each ;-) I dearly wish we could park together, but
I am not the organizing type, so I will probably never see it happen.
David Lieb

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug  5 11:00:38 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:00:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
Message-ID: <11874489.1217955638166.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Guys,

I am just coming into this on the late end.  I am wondering what brought all of these clutch problems on?  Were clutch parts mixed and match and wound up differently from what was originally engineered to work together?  This is probably a stupid question but  . . . wouldn't it have been easier to use what parts are supposed to go together?

Mike C
-----Original Message-----
>From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
>Sent: Aug 5, 2008 12:11 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
>
>I figured I'd see if maybe the rattling was just too much play in the 
>fork / slave connection. Maybe I had made the push rod a lil too short? 
>So I pulled the pushrod out, built it up a bit with my mig. Put it back 
>in, and I had lost my clutch pedal. Arrrrrgh! Dang, brand new slave too, 
>wouldn't have expected it to be so touchy!  Air must've got in, cause no 
>fluid came out...
>
>
>> Guess that saga isn't quite done yet...
>>   
>-- 
>
>Marc
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
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From smarc at smarc.net  Tue Aug  5 11:05:32 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:05:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
In-Reply-To: <11874489.1217955638166.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <11874489.1217955638166.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4898885C.8010607@smarc.net>

To make a long story mercifully short: Midget with very worn 
transmission, got rebuilt unit, installed it along with new clutch & 
pressure plate, throwout bearing, slave cyl & hose. Clutch won't 
disengage. Replace with original clutch and pressure plate (which turned 
out to have been fairly recent). Clutch then works, but throwout bearing 
smokes. Shorten pushrod, problem seemed solved. Except for rattling 
noises...

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am just coming into this on the late end.  I am wondering what brought all of these clutch problems on?  Were clutch parts mixed and match and wound up differently from what was originally engineered to work together?  This is probably a stupid question but  . . . wouldn't it have been easier to use what parts are supposed to go together?
>
> Mike C

-- 

Marc

From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Aug  5 11:27:32 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:27:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1274 Sump replacement....
In-Reply-To: <48981D1F.13657.54D8C3@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <20080805.090243.24344.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>,
	<080520081610.16346.48987B670003AA8300003FDA22230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<48981D1F.13657.54D8C3@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <080520081727.11853.48988D8400011CDA00002E4D22230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog responded:
 
Dave, Thanks for that clarification. Everything is clear now.
  -------------- Original message from "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>: --------------


> I meant to ask about the 1274.86cc engine   
> 
> On 5 Aug 2008 at 16:10, tinydog at snet.net wrote:
> 
> >> This is a very good discussion, but would these same recommendations
> >> for a 1274 Sump also apply to a 1275 sump?

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Aug  5 12:15:09 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:15:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
References: <11874489.1217955638166.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <009301c8f727$32499f10$6401a8c0@personal>

Tis my opinion, from experence, that some clutch sets are improper, ie the 
throw out bearing is thiner by 1/4 inch than it should be. Some others have 
something else wrong with them that I don't understand. I have had both 
problems.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
To: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??


> Hi Guys,
>
> I am just coming into this on the late end.  I am wondering what brought 
> all of these clutch problems on?  Were clutch parts mixed and match and 
> wound up differently from what was originally engineered to work together? 
> This is probably a stupid question but  . . . wouldn't it have been easier 
> to use what parts are supposed to go together?
>
> Mike C
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Marc <smarc at smarc.net>
>>Sent: Aug 5, 2008 12:11 PM
>>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] pinking problem - actually clutch??
>>
>>I figured I'd see if maybe the rattling was just too much play in the
>>fork / slave connection. Maybe I had made the push rod a lil too short?
>>So I pulled the pushrod out, built it up a bit with my mig. Put it back
>>in, and I had lost my clutch pedal. Arrrrrgh! Dang, brand new slave too,
>>wouldn't have expected it to be so touchy!  Air must've got in, cause no
>>fluid came out...
>>
>>
>>> Guess that saga isn't quite done yet...
>>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Marc
>>_______________________________________________
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Aug  5 12:17:15 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:17:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z0
  2>
References: <28567258.2515021217876837119.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web23-z02>
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4fbggg@email.mtu.edu>

You may be interested in John Twist's latest video on "Finding Top 
Dead Center" that he has posted on YouTube. Search for: 
Universitymotorsltd and you should easily find this video. You may 
not like the method, but it is interesting.

At 03:07 PM 8/4/2008, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
>Speaking of shaken engine syndrome...I know my timing is close but 
>not the best by static timing it and banging things around.
>
>so after I get a timing light, do I actually have to go down under 
>the front of the car to get a reading?  Is it really a 2 person job?
>
>thanks
>Chris
>66 MKIII
>Brookfield, WI

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 12:56:03 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:56:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
Message-ID: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>

So, does anyone know what the difference is between the 948/1098 bearing  and 
the 1275 bearing?
 
In a message dated 05/08/2008 19:15:30 GMT Daylight Time, jlaird237 at cox.net  
writes:

Tis my  opinion, from experence, that some clutch sets are improper, ie the 
throw  out bearing is thiner by 1/4 inch than it should be. Some others have  
something else wrong with them that I don't understand. I have had both  
problems.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 13:08:37 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:08:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
References: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805140707.03f7ac28@nosimport.com>

Oooh, ooooh.... I do, I do..

948 1/2" from center of peg to face of carbon
1098 3/4"
1275  .970"

Peter C.
===
At 01:56 PM 8/5/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>So, does anyone know what the difference is between the 948/1098 bearing  and
>the 1275 bearing?
>
>In a message dated 05/08/2008 19:15:30 GMT Daylight Time, jlaird237 at cox.net
>writes:
>
>Tis my  opinion, from experence, that some clutch sets are improper, ie the
>throw  out bearing is thiner by 1/4 inch than it should be. Some others have
>something else wrong with them that I don't understand. I have had both
>problems.

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Aug  5 13:16:34 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:16:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
References: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C23FD6C4-BE6C-4233-BC47-FDFCC9B030E3@valentinephoto.net>

On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:56 PM, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:


> So, does anyone know what the difference is between the 948/1098  
> bearing  and
> the 1275 bearing?
>



I would be interested to know if the 948/1098 is a bit thicker/ 
taller.....

This would explain the clutch over-throw in the 73 I just put together.

Kevin V.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 13:20:37 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:20:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
Message-ID: <d6a.2e29f624.35ca0205@aol.com>

You mean it just has a thicker lump of carbon on it?  Or do you mean  the 
metal carrier is thicker and all the carbon's are as thick?  
 
In a message dated 05/08/2008 20:08:59 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Oooh,  ooooh.... I do, I do..

948 1/2" from center of peg to face of  carbon
1098 3/4"
1275  .970"

Peter  C.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 13:25:33 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <d6a.2e29f624.35ca0205@aol.com>
References: <d6a.2e29f624.35ca0205@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805142501.03da2a00@nosimport.com>

Doesn't matter how it's done, does it?


At 02:20 PM 8/5/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>You mean it just has a thicker lump of carbon on it?  Or do you mean 
>the metal carrier is thicker and all the carbon's are as thick?
>
>In a message dated 05/08/2008 20:08:59 GMT Daylight Time, 
>peter at nosimport.com writes:
>Oooh, ooooh.... I do, I do..
>
>948 1/2" from center of peg to face of carbon
>1098 3/4"
>1275  .970"
>
>Peter C.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 13:30:12 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:30:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
Message-ID: <c23.4281d903.35ca0444@aol.com>

I have a very nearly brand new 1275 bearing for the Holy Sprite but Frank  
pointed out that it's not the same as the 948/1098 so I thought how different  
can it be such that it won't work because I know it fits on the arm.
 
In a message dated 05/08/2008 20:25:49 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Doesn't  matter how it's done, does it?

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 13:39:10 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:39:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <c23.4281d903.35ca0444@aol.com>
References: <c23.4281d903.35ca0444@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805143833.029ddb00@nosimport.com>

The metal and the carbon are different.  Just measure the height.


At 02:30 PM 8/5/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>I have a very nearly brand new 1275 bearing for the Holy Sprite but 
>Frank pointed out that it's not the same as the 948/1098 so I 
>thought how different can it be such that it won't work because I 
>know it fits on the arm.
>
>In a message dated 05/08/2008 20:25:49 GMT Daylight Time, 
>peter at nosimport.com writes:
>Doesn't matter how it's done, does it?

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 13:54:06 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:54:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale near Boston
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805143833.029ddb00@nosimport.com>
References: <c23.4281d903.35ca0444@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080805143833.029ddb00@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805145248.03cc4268@nosimport.com>

Just needs some minor bits.  You can steal this, too, cause it ain't a B.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/783673283.html

Peter C.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 14:05:50 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:05:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
Message-ID: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.
 
This would be a good one.
 
The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666
 
Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666
 
Vigil
So Cal
 
Vigil
 
 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  5 14:26:13 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:26:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
References: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C566CB6EA84D4DAE8B6F990EF52E711C@Larry>

Vigil, that was me and David Lieb who both liked the one we saw at a 
micro-car show a couple weeks ago.

The problem I see with this one is not having a motor.  If the correct one 
was available, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have picked one 
up and installed it.  I would think it would be worth at least twice as much 
if complete and correct.  Bastardizing it with a motor out of a 4-wheeler 
has got to kill the value.

I'll pass.  But thanks for the heads up.


Larry Daniels



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster



Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.

This would be a good one.

The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666

Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666

Vigil
So Cal

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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Aug  5 14:41:16 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:41:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
References: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080805140707.03f7ac28@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <01b001c8f73b$9ba65700$6401a8c0@personal>

I have a new throw out bearing in my hand. Moss from India it is 1/2 inch 
from center of peg to face of carbon and it looks in my mind anyway like an 
orginal. The one in my car at present, and I do not know size from peg to 
face but it is 1/4 inch thiner from back of casting to face. It came with a 
Quinton- Hazel clutch set. The other parts were the correct measurements.

As some of you know I have problems with shifting at high RPM, the pedal 
goes to the floor. In addition I am not convenced that the clutch if fully 
releasing at any time.

Line is clean and bleed, new master and slave. Have tried longer slave rod, 
no joy, have adjusted master rod, no joy.

Need to pull the engine and try this new bearing that is correct but an a 
bit under the weather with a bad leg and will wait till weather cools off to 
test. Will be a month or so.

Don't know what else to say but something is wrong with the Q-H throwout 
bearing in my mind. Time will tell but be careful and make durn sure your 
parts are correct.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>; <jlaird237 at cox.net>; 
<mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>; <smarc at smarc.net>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing


> Oooh, ooooh.... I do, I do..
>
> 948 1/2" from center of peg to face of carbon
> 1098 3/4"
> 1275  .970"
>
> Peter C.
> ===
> At 01:56 PM 8/5/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>>So, does anyone know what the difference is between the 948/1098 bearing 
>>and
>>the 1275 bearing?
>>
>>In a message dated 05/08/2008 19:15:30 GMT Daylight Time, 
>>jlaird237 at cox.net
>>writes:
>>
>>Tis my  opinion, from experence, that some clutch sets are improper, ie 
>>the
>>throw  out bearing is thiner by 1/4 inch than it should be. Some others 
>>have
>>something else wrong with them that I don't understand. I have had both
>>problems.
>


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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue Aug  5 14:45:41 2008
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:45:41 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] re Sprite tacho
Message-ID: <002d01c8f73c$3aef0320$0202a8c0@desktop>

Mike.
>I was with Terry Horler and Andy Smith at the SPRIDGET50, both are quite
knowledgeable about sprites and midgets.
I was querying the dating of my car because of various anomalies.
 I believe it was Andy that said about the instruments and Terry didn't
contradict.

Certainly it was Andy that identified the various bodywork quirks like the
single gusset by the front suspension mounts and lack of strengthening member
from the rear axle tunnel to the rear of the trunk making it a very early 1958
car.
Terry stood by and we continued chatting as Andy ferreted about under the
bonnet and boot.
The windscreen surround is of the later 2 stud variety from around 1960,
Somebody has fitted a later more watertight version. Because the other bits
are hidden, the car appears to be a '60, and it has been re-registered as
such, but really it's a very 'early 58.
>
> If you look at the photos,  the face of the instruments , the speedo and rev
counter have 'grooves' in the central silver part. The Midget Jaeger versions
were plain silver colour.
>
>If you know any more, or can point me in the correct direction I'd be
interested to know.
>
> For the moment tho' it would be nice if I could obtain a dynamo gear drive
for the rev counter if anybody out there has one spare !

>I will also try and post the photos in the photo section if unsuccessful I
will add a link.
>Rgds
>Alan
_________________________________________________
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
To: Alan East-Jones <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>,  autox spridgets
list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID:
<20798083.1217859459909.JavaMail.root at mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Alan,

Where did you get the info that you are quoting that the Jaeger guages were
used on Bugeyes?  All of the sources that I have read or know about state
Jaeger as only being used in the "upscale" MG Midgets.

Thanks,

Mike Carpenter

-----Original Message-----
>From: Alan East-Jones <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com>
>Sent: Aug 3, 2008 7:37 PM
>To: autox spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] sprite tacho
>
>My sprite has a Jaeger  mechanical drive tacho, but there is no drive gear
for
>the dynamo end.  Has anyone out there who has modified to alternator who has
>the original gear drive for a dynamo going spare ?
> I'd love to have a working  tacho in the car, if not I might resort to
>fitting an electrical one from a 72 midget , which all the purists will take
>delighty in telling is wrong !
>  Apparantly the Jaeger mech driven tachos were only fitted to bugeyes for a
>short period of time.  The rest of the instruments are also Jaeger - the
>speedo reads about 50% faster than I'm actually doing. So I don't know what
>differential is fitted . I believe the morris minor smooth case gearbox had
a
>1:1 top gear like the frogeye , so the mismatch comes from the diff I
>presume.
>Anyone ?
>alan
>_______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 15:06:31 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:06:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale near Boston
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805145248.03cc4268@nosimport.com>
References: <c23.4281d903.35ca0444@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080805143833.029ddb00@nosimport.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080805145248.03cc4268@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <480C5457-9748-4154-A254-D20621072CE5@comcast.net>

So that's why folks hate the small spare tires ehh..

Lester



On Aug 5, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Peter C wrote:

> Just needs some minor bits.  You can steal this, too, cause it  
> ain't a B.
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/783673283.html
>
> Peter C.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug  5 15:07:02 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:07:02 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
Message-ID: <c90.2bd258f9.35ca1af6@aol.com>

Ok, this is very interesting.
 
India is the new China?
 
I have a carbon bearing for the 1275 with less than 500 miles on it.   
Measuring from the pivot point to the metal facing the measurement is half an  inch. 
 The same measurement on the old worn out carbon bearing is three  quarters 
of an inch.
 
In other words the new carbon bearing has a quarter inch further to travel  
than the correct bearing.  Given there is only a quarter inch of carbon on  the 
near bearing it gives almost identical symptons of a worn out bearing  
straight out of the box.
 
The obvious cure is that the new bearing needs a slave push rod a quarter  of 
an inch longer than the standard push rod.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 05/08/2008 21:41:26 GMT Daylight Time, jlaird237 at cox.net  
writes:

I have a  new throw out bearing in my hand. Moss from India it is 1/2 inch 
from  center of peg to face of carbon and it looks in my mind anyway like an  
orginal. The one in my car at present, and I do not know size from peg to  
face but it is 1/4 inch thiner from back of casting to face. It came with  a 
Quinton- Hazel clutch set. The other parts were the correct  measurements.

As some of you know I have problems with shifting at high  RPM, the pedal 
goes to the floor. In addition I am not convenced that the  clutch if fully 
releasing at any time.

Line is clean and bleed, new  master and slave. Have tried longer slave rod, 
no joy, have adjusted  master rod, no joy.

Need to pull the engine and try this new bearing  that is correct but an a 
bit under the weather with a bad leg and will  wait till weather cools off to 
test. Will be a month or so.

Don't  know what else to say but something is wrong with the Q-H throwout 
bearing  in my mind. Time will tell but be careful and make durn sure your 
parts  are correct.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 15:25:43 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:25:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808051425v66bc7849i983eca4f85a03ea1@mail.gmail.com>

One of my pals in England had a Berkeley but I thought I remembered it being
a 3 wheeler with a bigger displacement engine...

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/5/08, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.
>
> This would be a good one.
>
> The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
>
> cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
> 82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666
>
> Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666
>
> Vigil
> So Cal
>
> Vigil
>
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug  5 15:34:17 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <c90.2bd258f9.35ca1af6@aol.com>
References: <c90.2bd258f9.35ca1af6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080805163300.02d3fec0@nosimport.com>

At 04:07 PM 8/5/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>Ok, this is very interesting.
>
>India is the new China?
>
>I have a carbon bearing for the 1275 with less than 500 miles on 
>it.  Measuring from the pivot point to the metal facing the 
>measurement is half an inch.  The same measurement on the old worn 
>out carbon bearing is three quarters of an inch.
>
>In other words the new carbon bearing has a quarter inch further to 
>travel than the correct bearing.  Given there is only a quarter inch 
>of carbon on the near bearing it gives almost identical symptons of 
>a worn out bearing straight out of the box.
>
>The obvious cure is that the new bearing needs a slave push rod a 
>quarter of an inch longer than the standard push rod.

Not necessarily a 1/4".  It's a lever with a fulcrum at the pivot. It 
is probably less than a 1/4"

Peter
=

>
>W E S L A K E 1330
>
>In a message dated 05/08/2008 21:41:26 GMT Daylight Time, 
>jlaird237 at cox.net writes:
>I have a new throw out bearing in my hand. Moss from India it is 1/2 inch
>from center of peg to face of carbon and it looks in my mind anyway like an
>orginal. The one in my car at present, and I do not know size from peg to
>face but it is 1/4 inch thiner from back of casting to face. It came with a
>Quinton- Hazel clutch set. The other parts were the correct measurements.
>
>As some of you know I have problems with shifting at high RPM, the pedal
>goes to the floor. In addition I am not convenced that the clutch if fully
>releasing at any time.
>
>Line is clean and bleed, new master and slave. Have tried longer slave rod,
>no joy, have adjusted master rod, no joy.
>
>Need to pull the engine and try this new bearing that is correct but an a
>bit under the weather with a bad leg and will wait till weather cools off to
>test. Will be a month or so.
>
>Don't know what else to say but something is wrong with the Q-H throwout
>bearing in my mind. Time will tell but be careful and make durn sure your
>parts are correct.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug  5 15:59:25 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:59:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808051425v66bc7849i983eca4f85a03ea1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0808051425v66bc7849i983eca4f85a03ea1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <018601c8f746$880c54a0$e61ef304@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_cars

 

We could also talk about the Turner.   .bill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_%28car_company%29

 

============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:26 PM
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster

 

One of my pals in England had a Berkeley but I thought I remembered it being

a 3 wheeler with a bigger displacement engine...

 

Cheers!!

Jim

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 16:03:46 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:03:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch carbon bearing
In-Reply-To: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
References: <d30.378095a6.35c9fc43@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4898CE42.8030702@comcast.net>

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> So, does anyone know what the difference is between the 948/1098 bearing  and 
> the 1275 bearing?
>
>   
Of the couple I have, one has offset ears, the other has the ears very 
close to the back of the metal shell.
I don't know if what is in the Holy Sprite is correct or not, the clutch 
has been changed and the 1098 came out of my 67 which should have had a 
1275, I can see the slave rod was too long and is bent. that carbon 
bearing has it's ears close to the back of the shell, the one I have in 
my crate of clutch bits has the ears about 3/4 back from the shell. 
Again, I do not know what that one is for either.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug  5 16:12:42 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:12:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <018601c8f746$880c54a0$e61ef304@spider>
References: <458539.57054.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0808051425v66bc7849i983eca4f85a03ea1@mail.gmail.com>
	<018601c8f746$880c54a0$e61ef304@spider>
Message-ID: <018b01c8f748$62d150d0$e61ef304@spider>

"Excelsior (motorcycle) Talisman three-cylinder 492cc two-stroke engines
were fitted to Berkeley cars in the late 1950's."

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 17:47:14 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <C566CB6EA84D4DAE8B6F990EF52E711C@Larry>
Message-ID: <844225.31455.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry - Sorry - i did not read he add. I thought it was a complete car.
 

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:26 PM

Vigil, that was me and David Lieb who both liked the one we saw at a
micro-car show a couple weeks ago.

The problem I see with this one is not having a motor.  If the correct one
was available, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have picked one

up and installed it.  I would think it would be worth at least twice as much
if complete and correct.  Bastardizing it with a motor out of a 4-wheeler
has got to kill the value.

I'll pass.  But thanks for the heads up.


Larry Daniels



----- Original Message -----
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster



Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.

This would be a good one.

The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666

Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666

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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 17:47:15 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <C566CB6EA84D4DAE8B6F990EF52E711C@Larry>
Message-ID: <138216.11143.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry - Sorry - i did not read he add. I thought it was a complete car.
 

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:26 PM

Vigil, that was me and David Lieb who both liked the one we saw at a
micro-car show a couple weeks ago.

The problem I see with this one is not having a motor.  If the correct one
was available, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have picked one

up and installed it.  I would think it would be worth at least twice as much
if complete and correct.  Bastardizing it with a motor out of a 4-wheeler
has got to kill the value.

I'll pass.  But thanks for the heads up.


Larry Daniels



----- Original Message -----
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster



Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.

This would be a good one.

The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666

Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666

Vigil
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 17:47:15 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <C566CB6EA84D4DAE8B6F990EF52E711C@Larry>
Message-ID: <614795.24049.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry - Sorry - i did not read he add. I thought it was a complete car.
 

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 1:26 PM

Vigil, that was me and David Lieb who both liked the one we saw at a
micro-car show a couple weeks ago.

The problem I see with this one is not having a motor.  If the correct one
was available, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have picked one

up and installed it.  I would think it would be worth at least twice as much
if complete and correct.  Bastardizing it with a motor out of a 4-wheeler
has got to kill the value.

I'll pass.  But thanks for the heads up.


Larry Daniels



----- Original Message -----
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 3:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster



Some one was saying they wanted a Berkeley.

This would be a good one.

The model SE 492 which had larger 3 cylinder 328cc

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1959-Berkeley-SE-492-Roadster-Mi
cro-Car-LOW-ORIG-MILES_W0QQitemZ160268907666QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22
82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160268907666

Evil Bay - Item - 160268907666

Vigil
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From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue Aug  5 18:10:33 2008
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 01:10:33 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
Message-ID: <007b01c8f758$d9bb69a0$0202a8c0@desktop>

You are correct Jim both 3 and 4 wheeled versions Also 2 , 3 and 4 cylinder
engines have been fitted.

Please open the set of pix for more pix of the Berkeley  (and 3 wheeled vee
twin Morgans and A series engined specials )
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/2693224619/in/set-72157606323458731/

The 3 wheeled versions are allowed to race with motorbikes and sidecars , as
was this controversial 3 wheeled A series engined outfit, It kept winning  -
think 3 wheeled mini !
http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/2694462462/in/set-72157606323458731/
Rgds
alan

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug  5 18:37:38 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:37:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <007b01c8f758$d9bb69a0$0202a8c0@desktop>
References: <007b01c8f758$d9bb69a0$0202a8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808051737o4312be29lecad51441a915d79@mail.gmail.com>

Alan,

Thanks for confirming that my memory isn't as bad as it sometimes seems
these days!!   Yes, the one I recall had 3 wheels and the engine was a
fairly large 3 cylinder air cooled affair. I drooled over several JAP
engined Morgan 3 wheelers and actually got to drive one a couple times
around the club circuit at Brands Hatch!  What a treat.  The chap who owned
it later sold me a basket case Morgan 3 wheeler with the Ford engine.  I
crated it up and shipped it back to the States to await restoration.
Unfortunately, divorce got it away from me in 1980, still in the crate.  Too
soon old and too late smart!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/5/08, Alan East-Jones <alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> You are correct Jim both 3 and 4 wheeled versions Also 2 , 3 and 4 cylinder
> engines have been fitted.
>
> Please open the set of pix for more pix of the Berkeley  (and 3 wheeled vee
> twin Morgans and A series engined specials )
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/2693224619/in/set-72157606323458731/
>
> The 3 wheeled versions are allowed to race with motorbikes and sidecars ,
> as
> was this controversial 3 wheeled A series engined outfit, It kept
> winning  -
> think 3 wheeled mini !
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/apjones/2694462462/in/set-72157606323458731/
> Rgds
> alan
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From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 18:56:04 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:56:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Trade
Message-ID: <305306.89482.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone would be interested in a set of early Sprite hubcaps to trade for the early Midget ones with no AH logo?  They are in reasonable condition, not show, but decent.

Thanks,
Mike Rivers
1961 MG Midget 1275 with a functional 5 Speed (Yaaah!)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 19:20:33 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <018601c8f746$880c54a0$e61ef304@spider>
Message-ID: <981662.80236.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Interesting - wikipedia say they two a two cylinder motor. I never knew they
made one.
 
All of the ones i owned were 3 cylinders. One was a Royal Infield and the
other two had the excelsior motors.
 
The 492 on the car on ebay was the cc of that model excelsior  motor. They ran
a single carb on each cylinder. (Tri-power) The car because of its weight went
very well with this configuration. The green car looks like the last one i
owned. But i know my car is still here in the USA on display. 
 
Vigil       

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2008, 2:59 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_cars



We could also talk about the Turner.   .bill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_%28car_company%29



============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 2:26 PM
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster



One of my pals in England had a Berkeley but I thought I remembered it being

a 3 wheeler with a bigger displacement engine...



Cheers!!

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 19:27:02 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:27:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <31305817.1217939492497.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <455301.62120.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 8/5/08, Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> Frank has the best answer for setting timing.  It is very
> easy to do if you go by ear and feel when setting it.  

I used to think my feel was better, but now I'm a firm believer that if your timing light isn't more accurate than your "feel", it's either a really crappy light or solid core spark plug wires giving an erratic trigger.

Ron

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Tue Aug  5 21:25:57 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:25:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye door Hinges
Message-ID: <50022.72.64.15.243.1217993157.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Anyone have two hinges for a bugeye door they would like to sell?
I learned today that later hinges aren't the same as bugeye hinges when I
couldn't get the door to fit. Let me know. Thanks.
Dick Byrne in NH

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Aug  6 01:25:38 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:25:38 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem
References: <455301.62120.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EC6861C774924E82B08D9DE68F91995D@TAIRS>

The full time job of my navigator in competition days was to tune cars on a 
rolling road, he would do around 8 per day.  Everything from road motors to 
race / rally and even the odd motor-cycle (if it was tied down).  From cars 
that climbed off the rollers to my wife's company car, a Renault 4 that 
needed the bhp scale halved so the needle movement could be seen!
Timing was never done by 'feel' or ear, even on a 'quicky' job from the 
workshops.  (All service / repairs had a tune before they went out - even if 
it wasn't an engine job it went in for.)
However, not everyone had access to a set of rollers with a bhp machine 
attached!

Guy R Day




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From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Checking timing was: pinking problem


> --- On Tue, 8/5/08, Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> 
> wrote:
>> Frank has the best answer for setting timing.  It is very
>> easy to do if you go by ear and feel when setting it.
>
> I used to think my feel was better, but now I'm a firm believer that if 
> your timing light isn't more accurate than your "feel", it's either a 
> really crappy light or solid core spark plug wires giving an erratic 
> trigger.
>
> Ron
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Aug  6 07:46:54 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:46:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternators
Message-ID: <4899AB4E.4010200@lehigh.edu>

My 74 Midget charging indicator light is coming on very dim, and will 
not go out with revving the engine. It is a Bosch rebuild that was 
replaced in Nov. 2005, around 4000 miles of driving. I checked and found 
a nut missing on one of the mounting bolts and could just slip the 
pulley with my thumb, so thought I found the problem, but the belt is 
tight and the problem is still there. I charged the battery, the 
indicator circuit works normally and is very bright with the key on, and 
battery voltage increases to around 14 volts with modest revs.  I can't 
check the output amperage at home, but am pretty sure this alternator 
has seen better days. Am I a fool for not doing an alternator conversion 
when I researched it in 05? Is this just a poor rebuild? Is this their 
normal way to fail?
TIA,
John
Fogelsville, PA

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Aug  6 08:03:54 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternators
In-Reply-To: <4899AB4E.4010200@lehigh.edu>
References: <4899AB4E.4010200@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080806090152.03b5db28@nosimport.com>

John,
         Is it a Lucas unit rebuilt or marketed by Bosch, or is it a 
Bosch alternator as found on Fiestas?

         Peter
==
At 08:46 AM 8/6/2008, John Caffrey wrote:
>My 74 Midget charging indicator light is coming on very dim, and will
>not go out with revving the engine. It is a Bosch rebuild that was
>replaced in Nov. 2005, around 4000 miles of driving. I checked and found
>a nut missing on one of the mounting bolts and could just slip the
>pulley with my thumb, so thought I found the problem, but the belt is
>tight and the problem is still there. I charged the battery, the
>indicator circuit works normally and is very bright with the key on, and
>battery voltage increases to around 14 volts with modest revs.  I can't
>check the output amperage at home, but am pretty sure this alternator
>has seen better days. Am I a fool for not doing an alternator conversion
>when I researched it in 05? Is this just a poor rebuild? Is this their
>normal way to fail?
>TIA,
>John
>Fogelsville, PA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Aug  6 09:22:52 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:22:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternators
Message-ID: <7576487.1218036172761.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

Hi Peter, 
It is a Lucas unit rebuilt by Bosch. The Bosch P/N is AL268 if memory serves me correctly. Many times it doesn't, lol.
John


Peter C wrote:John,
>          Is it a Lucas unit rebuilt or marketed by Bosch, or is it a 
> Bosch alternator as found on Fiestas?

>          Peter
> ==
> At 08:46 AM 8/6/2008, John Caffrey wrote:
> >My 74 Midget charging indicator light is coming on very dim, and will
> >not go out with revving the engine. It is a Bosch rebuild that was
> >replaced in Nov. 2005, around 4000 miles of driving. I checked and found
> >a nut missing on one of the mounting bolts and could just slip the
> >pulley with my thumb, so thought I found the problem, but the belt is
> >tight and the problem is still there. I charged the battery, the
> >indicator circuit works normally and is very bright with the key on, and
> >battery voltage increases to around 14 volts with modest revs.  I can't
> >check the output amperage at home, but am pretty sure this alternator
> >has seen better days. Am I a fool for not doing an alternator conversion
> >when I researched it in 05? Is this just a poor rebuild? Is this their
> >normal way to fail?
> >TIA,
> >John
> >Fogelsville, PA
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Aug  6 10:24:51 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:24:51 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
Message-ID: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>

There is no guarantee, ever, that wikipdia is correct.
 
In a message dated 06/08/2008 02:21:00 GMT Daylight Time,  
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com writes:

Interesting - wikipedia say they two a two cylinder motor. I never knew  they
made one.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug  6 10:35:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:35:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
References: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <EC0A8B6356414273B7217DEB3721A409@NilesAD.von.gov>

> There is no guarantee, ever, that wikipdia is correct.

With that spelling, you were probably at a hoax site and caught a virus 
besides ;-)
There are no guarantees to the accuracy of anything any more. Even Spridget 
books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good considering its 
scope. Studies have shown that its accuracy level is slightly beyond that of 
the Encyclopedia Britannica. The world has come a long way from the days of 
the Renaisance when a single person COULD understand all there was to know.

I sure wish I had room in my garage for that Berkeley!
David Lieb 

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug  6 10:35:46 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <586084.62148.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How true - I've found many entries where the "facts" are wrong, and even more
where they're maybe not wrong, but aren't quite right either.  I've never
contributed, but have been told that just about anybody can do so if they feel
like it.  If it's important, use wiki as a reference, but verify elsewhere.
 - David

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

From: Weslake1330 at aol.com <Weslake1330 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net,
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2008, 11:24 AM

There is no guarantee, ever, that wikipdia is correct.

In a message dated 06/08/2008 02:21:00 GMT Daylight Time,
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com writes:

Interesting - wikipedia say they two a two cylinder motor. I never knew  they
made one.
You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug  6 11:27:42 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:27:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <586084.62148.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4BF2D1E.18D02%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The bad thing about Wikipedia is that it's written by the general public,
and anybody can post anything. The good part is that anybody who knows
better can correct it. Did any of you bother to change 2 cylinder to 2
cycle?

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug  6 11:41:02 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 10:41:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>
References: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00d701c8f7eb$99750f20$9b03f204@spider>

Agreed; I keep forgetting that. .bill in oregon

  _____  

From: Weslake1330 at aol.com [mailto:Weslake1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:25 AM
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com; spridgets at autox.team.net;
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster

 

There is no guarantee, ever, that wikipdia is correct.

 

===============================================================

In a message dated 06/08/2008 02:21:00 GMT Daylight Time,
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com writes:

Interesting - wikipedia say they two a two cylinder motor. I never knew they
made one.

 

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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Aug  6 11:53:36 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:53:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye front brakes
Message-ID: <20080806.115336.10290.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

OK, so I pulled the trigger and bought the '58  that I always wanted. The
brakes were removed ever so long ago, and now three of the front wheel
cylinders are irretrievably frozen (read rusted beyond movement). So, since I
live at 8800' and no matter which way I drive, I have to go downhill, I'm
thinking of doing the disc brake conversion.
To the point, Does anyone have a setup for this that they would let go of? and
does anyone want the original drum setup?
Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 12:06:29 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 13:06:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <EC0A8B6356414273B7217DEB3721A409@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <d5a.29da051c.35cb2a53@aol.com>
	<EC0A8B6356414273B7217DEB3721A409@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808061106g55752cdax9805572f943bc6c6@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/6/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
<snip>
>
> There are no guarantees to the accuracy of anything any more.


Oh, I don't know...   For instance, I'd be willing to guarantee that your
statement above is true   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Aug  6 13:13:45 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:13:45 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
Message-ID: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>

Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their  scope.  
Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
 
The point I was making was that just because it says so in Wikipedia  doesn't 
meant it is 100% correct.
 
In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,  
dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:

Even  Spridget 
books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good  considering its 
scope.

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Aug  6 13:19:44 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:19:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
References: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>

Ya mean like....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake

Ed Lieb


At 02:13 PM 8/6/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their  scope.
>Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
>
>The point I was making was that just because it says so in Wikipedia  doesn't
>meant it is 100% correct.
>
>In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,
>dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>
>Even  Spridget
>books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good  considering its
>scope.

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Aug  6 13:52:35 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:52:35 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] W E S L A K E Re:  1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
Message-ID: <d21.34e7a08c.35cb5b03@aol.com>

Well the wiki link to the website works though my names not Dean!!
 
In a message dated 06/08/2008 20:20:27 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Ya mean  like....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake

Ed  Lieb

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Aug  6 15:31:30 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 14:31:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
Message-ID: <F13A315850FD469C8ED5DAFC6D060CF3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

stumbled over this today for your blues appreciation.  BB sings and plays from
the 70's

http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/118994/detail/

Glen

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Aug  6 17:24:53 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:24:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <F13A315850FD469C8ED5DAFC6D060CF3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <F13A315850FD469C8ED5DAFC6D060CF3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <489A32C5.6020702@verizon.net>

Holy Xist, that is incredible. The man is a monster.

But the guitar is only a deprecated percussion instrument. 

Have you seen this?

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/jerry+lee+lewis/video/x30b71_jerry-lee-lewisfats-and-friendsswan 


chuck

Glen Byrns wrote:
> stumbled over this today for your blues appreciation.  BB sings and plays from
> the 70's
>
> http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/118994/detail/

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug  6 17:29:56 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:29:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Update - BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7,
	2008
Message-ID: <11167335.1218065397138.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

NEW WEBSITE:
        www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

LODGING ALTERNATIVES

Dear British Motorhead,

We have checked out the lodging situation in the Brisbane area for people who
live far enough away to stay overnight for a night or two for a more relaxed
weekend. Carole Burton, the official British meet travel agent, got us a DEAL
at the Radisson Hotel, right in the Brisbane Marina!

The Radisson is a very upscale, business type hotel with gourmet restaurant.
We have special British Car Meet rate of $109 per day, Friday, Saturday or
Sunday. Address, 5000 Sierra Point Parkway, Brisbane, Phone 415-467-4400.
Ask for the British Car Meet rates.

More local North Bay lodging on our website:
             www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html


Best,

Rick Feibusch
310-392-6605
Meet Coordinator
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NEW WEBSITE:
         www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html


THE BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008
The Weekend Of Saturday & Sunday * Sept. 6th & 7th

Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Brisbane Marina at
Sierra Point. Over 300 quirky, classic, and lovable British cars will once
again gather in the Bay Area for our 31st Annual British Car Meet. Don't have
a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and
works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. This is
essentially the old Palo Alto British Meet in a new location. We are also
expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the
Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for free.

SUNDAY SHOW - BRISBANE MARINA - SEPTEMBER 7th

Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The food will be
handled by the Brisbane Lions Club and the Sierra Point Yacht Club will open
their doors on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down breakfast  Herb Gibson's
Jazz Orchestra will be back again, set up just outside the Yacht Club. There
is no preregistration. There will be marque awards in over 15 classes and all
entrants will receive a commemorative gift. The registration fee is $25 per
car at the gate.

SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th

The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Brisbane Marina boathouse
(the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the
sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as
show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM.  A detailed
map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we
will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the
afternoon.

DIRECTIONS:

The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway
(101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just
take the Brisbane/Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the
Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site.

Call for information:  310-392-6605
e-mail: Brisbane Marina 2008 <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net>
Website:
http://www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Aug  6 18:36:36 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:36:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>
References: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4DAA38E8-9A99-4F2F-8BB3-84171DE058B4@phillymgclub.com>

What I like about wikipedia is that you can 1) edit it, and 2) go look  
to see who has changed the article. Most of the names mean nothing to  
me, but I have found a few folks I know. (Hit the History tab)

Larry

On Aug 6, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Peter C wrote:

> Ya mean like....
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake
>
> Ed Lieb
>
>
> At 02:13 PM 8/6/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>> Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their   
>> scope.
>> Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
>>
>> The point I was making was that just because it says so in  
>> Wikipedia  doesn't
>> meant it is 100% correct.
>>
>> In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,
>> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>>
>> Even  Spridget
>> books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good   
>> considering its
>> scope.
>

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug  6 19:02:21 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:02:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <F13A315850FD469C8ED5DAFC6D060CF3@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> BB sings and plays
But never at the same time.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  6 19:08:18 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:08:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)


> BB sings and plays
But never at the same time.
_______________________________________________


But he did rank #3 on the Rolling Stone list of the 100 greatest guitarists 
of all time.

I guess that leaves Jimi Hendrix and Duane Allman as the ones who can 
criticize him.

LAD 

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug  6 20:18:16 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:18:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
Message-ID: <4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>

Just for my interest... where did my favorite back-up player of all time, 
Barney Kessel, rank?? 

On 6 Aug 2008 at 20:08, Larry Daniels wrote:

>> But he did rank #3 on the Rolling Stone list of the 100 greatest
>> guitarists of all time.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  6 20:29:54 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:29:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
Message-ID: <C268CD889B4147C892703327CFB5558C@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>; "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)


> BB sings and plays
But never at the same time.
_______________________________________________


But he did rank #3 on the Rolling Stone list of the 100 greatest guitarists
of all time.

I guess that leaves Jimi Hendrix and Duane Allman as the ones who can
criticize him.

LAD
_______________________________________________

Congrats to Just Ed for being the first to realize how quiet that criticism
would be.


LAD 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug  6 20:32:16 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 21:32:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
	<4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>

Sorry, Dave, but I think he is left holding their jockstraps.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)


Just for my interest... where did my favorite back-up player of all time, 
Barney Kessel, rank?? 

On 6 Aug 2008 at 20:08, Larry Daniels wrote:

>> But he did rank #3 on the Rolling Stone list of the 100 greatest
>> guitarists of all time.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 21:10:41 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 23:10:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye hardura mats & snaps...
Message-ID: <743C7514C1194B1AB4788FA887E5DF96@blackbox2>

I am looking at photo's in Eric Dymock's book "The Sprites and Midgets" (pg. 22-23)

These appear to be early BMC photos of the top storage sequence on an early '58.
The reason I say "early '58" is because one can clearly see the gussets between the fenderwells
and the hump over the axle.   The front hardura mats on these cars had notches cut out to clear these 
gussets.

Then I see eight "ring snaps" on these early hardura mats in the following positions: two on the axle hump, 
one above each cutout where the bows go through, one well below each bow cutout and one on either side
of the tunnel down low. 

When I look at Terry Horler's book, "Original Sprite and Midget" there is a good photo of a later bugeye
with the box section.  I then realize there is significant difference not only in the front hardura mat, but also 
with the fender harduras, as they were cut different to follow the box section.

On the later front hardura mat I believe there are only six "ring snaps".  Two on the hump,  one well below 
each bow cutout, and one on either side of the tunnel, down low. 

Now, onto my car.  I have a '59 and it is box section.  I've loacated all the holes however there is only one 
discrepency.  I have holes, presumably for the snaps, on either side of the tunnel, but they are placed high
at the 10 and 2 o'clock positions.  

Anybody else have them located around the tunnel like this?
Also, Am I correct in that for the male part of the snaps that are mounted to the sheet metal, that this is
accomplished through a 1/4" hole with a special insert and a #6 phillips finishing screw?

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Aug  6 21:24:18 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 20:24:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
Message-ID: <200808070324.m773OIl5015454@celerio.ucdavis.edu>

BB sings every note, some vocally, all soulfully.  Bob Dylan would stop
singing to play the harmonica, and he hacked out a living as well.  Go figure.

Glen


> > BB sings and plays
> But never at the same time.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 21:30:15 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:30:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
	<4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>
	<61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>

I would hardly take "Rolling Stone's" word as gospel on much of anything to
do with music. Show biz, yes. Music, no.

My choices would include Andre Segovia, Les Paul, and Django Rienhardt and
not necessarily in that order. Bucky Pizzarelli ought to rank somewhere in
the top 10, too.

There are gypsy kids in Europe today who can play rings around most of the
people on the "RS" top 10 list. I've got the private recordings to prove it.
My old muscian friend in Devon, England makes their guitars. Having majored
in music at college for a few years and having played guitar since I was 10
I find it hard to get enthused about people who play a gazillion 64th notes
at 120 tempos in the blues scale and then set their guitar on fire. That
ain't musicianship, folks. That's show biz!

I'd include Billy Zoom but his check bounced...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/6/08, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Sorry, Dave, but I think he is left holding their jockstraps.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug  6 21:34:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:34:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <4DAA38E8-9A99-4F2F-8BB3-84171DE058B4@phillymgclub.com>
References: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>
	<4DAA38E8-9A99-4F2F-8BB3-84171DE058B4@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808062034y77b9d67ctad666152f0c53b22@mail.gmail.com>

I just started a new Wiki for "Larry Macy".  It's already been completely
re-written by 5 neo-facist perverts and 2 gay rights nuts!

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/6/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
>
> What I like about wikipedia is that you can 1) edit it, and 2) go look
> to see who has changed the article. Most of the names mean nothing to
> me, but I have found a few folks I know. (Hit the History tab)
>
> Larry
>
> On Aug 6, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Peter C wrote:
>
> > Ya mean like....
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake
> >
> > Ed Lieb
> >
> >
> > At 02:13 PM 8/6/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> >> Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their
> >> scope.
> >> Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
> >>
> >> The point I was making was that just because it says so in
> >> Wikipedia  doesn't
> >> meant it is 100% correct.
> >>
> >> In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,
> >> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
> >>
> >> Even  Spridget
> >> books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good
> >> considering its
> >> scope.
> >
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a
> parked car.
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug  6 22:29:45 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:29:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <200808070324.m773OIl5015454@celerio.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <C4BFC849.18D50%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> ob Dylan would stop
> singing to play the harmonica, and he hacked out a living as well.
But he kept playing guitar while he sang or played harmonica.

From fisher at hctc.net  Wed Aug  6 21:40:27 2008
From: fisher at hctc.net (Fisher or Elizabeth Jones)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto rummage sale
Message-ID: <auto-000007598633@mailadmin.hctc.net>

   Just  a  heads-up for those of you who might be interested.  Following
   the heart attack which Fisher suffered at the end of June, his general
   condition  has worsened.  Doug Doidge, a long-time friend of Fisher's,
   and  a CVAR racer, has very kindly offered to help me to divest myself
   of  the  balance of the 'collection' of Fisher's auto parts etc.  I am
   almost entirely absorbed in caring for Fisher, but Doug has offered to
   make himself available, and another friend may also be here.  Doug has
   posted the following message on the CVAR mailing list:-
   GARAGE/YARD/RUMMAGE SALE OF IMPORT CARS AND PARTS

   August 16-17, near Comfort, Texas, 8AM to 5PM.  Sprite,

   Midget, MGB, Triumph, Jaguar, BMW, etc.  Bodies, engines,

   transmissions, rear-ends, etc.  Bring your trucks, trailers, tools

   (we have no loaners), and some help for loading.  Everything

   goes at 10 cents per lb. - if you don't buy it, the recycler will!

   Contact me for directions to the location.
   Douglas Doidge <dougdoidge at live.com>
   I  have  not  had  any  time to care for the property, so the grass is
   tall,  and the weeds are taller.  It will be hot, dirty, thirsty work.
   I  would  really like to get rid of everything, so then at least I may
   be  able  to  get  someone  in  to  tidy  the place up a bit, and have
   somewhere to house the cars that I want to keep.  Please be aware that
   most  of  these  items have been here for some time, some under cover,
   some  not - none of the body parts have been undercover, for instance.
   The  pole  barn is piled high with an assortment of pieces, to include
   various   blocks   in   indeterminate   condition.    There  are  used
   transmissions galore, again, condition unknown.  If any of it might be
   of use to you, you might consider coming to have a look.
   elizabeth
     _________________________________________________________________

   Fisher or Elizabeth Jones
   "A gentleman does not motor about after dark."  Joseph Lucas 1920

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 01:24:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 02:24:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4BFC849.18D50%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <200808070324.m773OIl5015454@celerio.ucdavis.edu>
	<C4BFC849.18D50%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808070024y107d6692m8da6f01e9559b4bb@mail.gmail.com>

That was singing??  Just goes to show you what marketing will do for a
fella.  P.T. Barnum was right.....  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/6/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> > ob Dylan would stop
> > singing to play the harmonica, and he hacked out a living as well.
> But he kept playing guitar while he sang or played harmonica.
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 05:00:01 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
	<4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>
	<61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>
	<43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <489AD5B1.6040009@verizon.net>

Jim Hall!


Jim Johnson wrote:
> My choices would include Andre Segovia, Les Paul, and Django Rienhardt and
> not necessarily in that order. Bucky Pizzarelli ought to rank somewhere in
> the top 10, too.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug  7 05:13:13 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:13:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cheap 76 Midget 4 sale <cough>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17D9EA11B19C85D773BF52B8750@phx.gbl>

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca./c-ViewAd?AdId=66918969

 

Is that black paint behind the rear wheel well the way that it is supposed
to be?  I've seen an awful lot of cars like that recently, but I thought
that it should be body colour.

 

Robert D.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Aug  7 06:19:11 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 05:19:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] cheap 76 Midget 4 sale <cough>
Message-ID: <1a4f101c8f887$cca22170$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Yes, that's the factory paint scheme for the 1500.  1500's also had a
black area on the front fenders below the bumper. Facelift 1275's
('70-'74) had the black sills, but not the black behind the rear wheels,
or up front.
 
-=Chris (1500 owner)


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Robert Duquette [robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
Sent: 8/7/2008 7:12:13 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] cheap 76 Midget 4 sale  

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca./c-ViewAd?AdId=66918969 



Is that black paint behind the rear wheel well the way that it is
supposed 
to be? I've seen an awful lot of cars like that recently, but I thought 
that it should be body colour. 



Robert D. 
_______________________________________________ 

. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 10:04:52 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:04:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <489AD5B1.6040009@verizon.net>
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
	<4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>
	<61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>
	<43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>
	<489AD5B1.6040009@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808070904u2337f1et6d6bbb58149f7866@mail.gmail.com>

I orgot Julian Bream.
Jim

On 8/7/08, chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Jim Hall!
>
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
> > My choices would include Andre Segovia, Les Paul, and Django Rienhardt
> and
> > not necessarily in that order. Bucky Pizzarelli ought to rank somewhere
> in
> > the top 10, too.
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 11:40:21 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:40:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808070904u2337f1et6d6bbb58149f7866@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C4BF97AD.18D37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<411781974E1E41A983AC0B555B4727CF@Larry>
	<4899F8F8.3421.28B09C5@dmg.bossig.com>
	<61F2DD6F84A54C3CB50B509DB3C02474@Larry>
	<43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>
	<489AD5B1.6040009@verizon.net>
	<43840a7e0808070904u2337f1et6d6bbb58149f7866@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <489B3385.8000207@verizon.net>

And Kenny Burrell and George Benson.

But even so ... the guitar is a vastly overrated instrument when compared
to Diz and Miles on the trumpet, Kai on the trombone, Jimmy Smith on the
organ, almost any jazz pianist, Sidney Bechet on the soprano sax, Trane
on any reed, etc etc. Compared to all them, tell me about your 3-chord
rock guitarists??? Music?? More flash and glam. No substance.

Jim Johnson wrote:
> I orgot Julian Bream.
> Jim
>
> On 8/7/08, *chuck* <cciaffone at verizon.net 
> <mailto:cciaffone at verizon.net>> wrote:
>
>     Jim Hall!
>
>
>     Jim Johnson wrote:
>     > My choices would include Andre Segovia, Les Paul, and Django
>     Rienhardt and
>     > not necessarily in that order. Bucky Pizzarelli ought to rank
>     somewhere in
>     > the top 10, too.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug  7 11:50:25 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:50:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <489B3385.8000207@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> tell me about your 3-chord
> rock guitarists???
Horn players only have to play one note at a time.
And BTW, X's average is 9 chords per song.

Also, nobody's mentioned Steve Cropper or Jimmy Johnson.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 12:09:07 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:09:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <489B3385.8000207@verizon.net>
	<C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808071109l4c648f34v7affa0fc0200cfc5@mail.gmail.com>

I thought Jimmy Johnson coached the Cowboys and the Dolphins........
this is getting complicated here!!!


LOL

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:50 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > tell me about your 3-chord
> > rock guitarists???
> Horn players only have to play one note at a time.
> And BTW, X's average is 9 chords per song.
>
> Also, nobody's mentioned Steve Cropper or Jimmy Johnson.
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Aug  7 12:16:47 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <B9870265-D4A8-4052-B178-A482491AD3B1@comcast.net>

did I miss Leo Kotke's name somewhere along the line?

Lester

On Aug 7, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> tell me about your 3-chord
>> rock guitarists???
> Horn players only have to play one note at a time.
> And BTW, X's average is 9 chords per song.
>
> Also, nobody's mentioned Steve Cropper or Jimmy Johnson.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug  7 12:17:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:17:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808071109l4c648f34v7affa0fc0200cfc5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4C08A67.18D91%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Jimmy Johnson
Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section.
At least you guys seem to know who the MG's were.

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 12:37:46 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:37:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C08A67.18D91%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4C08A67.18D91%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <489B40FA.4040602@verizon.net>

As in Booker T and the ...

Billy Zoom wrote:
>> Jimmy Johnson
>>     
> Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section.
> At least you guys seem to know who the MG's were.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 12:41:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:41:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <489B40FA.4040602@verizon.net>
References: <C4C08A67.18D91%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<489B40FA.4040602@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808071141k771a9d6eq10411a08137e327f@mail.gmail.com>

I saw that man play at SXSW in 2006 with Jason Isbell, right after he left
The Drive By Truckers. I have the two clips of him playing, posted on my
myspace page.
He was a very kind man, shook hands, spoke for a minute. Not many folks of
his standing are as kind.

Brad

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:37 PM, chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:

> As in Booker T and the ...
>
> Billy Zoom wrote:
> >> Jimmy Johnson
> >>
> > Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section.
> > At least you guys seem to know who the MG's were.
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Thu Aug  7 12:41:46 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:41:46 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
Message-ID: <ce1.33720c67.35cc9bea@aol.com>

Shame on you all, especially Sprite owners for forgetting:
 
    JEFF HEALEY
 
w e s l a k e 1330
 
In a message dated 07/08/2008 18:40:49 GMT Daylight Time,  
cciaffone at verizon.net writes:

And  Kenny Burrell and George Benson.

But even so ... the guitar is a vastly  overrated instrument when compared
to Diz and Miles on the trumpet, Kai on  the trombone, Jimmy Smith on the
organ, almost any jazz pianist, Sidney  Bechet on the soprano sax, Trane
on any reed, etc etc. Compared to all  them, tell me about your 3-chord
rock guitarists??? Music?? More flash and  glam. No substance.

Jim Johnson wrote:

From bpazur at excel.net  Thu Aug  7 13:11:09 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:11:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen
Message-ID: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>

Alright - Son House, Robert Johnson, Mississippi John Hurt. They really sing
and play at the same time. When Keith Richards first heard Robert Johnson, he
thought there were two guitar players playing. Three different styles, all
self taught, all very complex. And magically compelling to me and a lot of
other folks.

Bud Pazur

From tinydog at snet.net  Thu Aug  7 13:44:33 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:44:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen
In-Reply-To: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog  sez: 
And the reason for that, had nothing whatsoever to do with music.
 -------------- Original message from "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>: --------------

When Keith Richards first heard Robert Johnson, he thought there were two guitar players playing.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Aug  7 13:59:31 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:59:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <489B3385.8000207@verizon.net>
	<C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A23@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

You tell 'em, Billy!

Rock on!



-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:50 PM
To: cciaffone at verizon.net; Jim Johnson
Cc: spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)

> tell me about your 3-chord
> rock guitarists???
Horn players only have to play one note at a time.
And BTW, X's average is 9 chords per song.

Also, nobody's mentioned Steve Cropper or Jimmy Johnson.

From tinydog at snet.net  Thu Aug  7 14:31:42 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:31:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A23@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <489B3385.8000207@verizon.net><C4C083F1.18D88%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A23@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <080720082031.1843.489B5BAE000931CB0000073322218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:
This is an endless road: James Burton, Luther Perkins, Carl Perkins (no relation), Albert Lee, Ricky Skaggs, and on, and on, and on.
 -------------- Original message from "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>: --------------


> You tell 'em, Billy!
> 
> Rock on! 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 16:08:05 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen
In-Reply-To: <080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>
	<080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah.  I wonder which drug he was doing at that time....   ;-)
Jim

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:

> tinydog  sez:
> And the reason for that, had nothing whatsoever to do with music.
>  -------------- Original message from "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>:
> --------------
>
> When Keith Richards first heard Robert Johnson, he thought there were two
> guitar players playing.
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  7 16:16:48 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>

At first glance, I wondered if I shouldn't have started a big controversy 
here.

But, now, I want to start another one.  Peter C. and I agree that the G.B. 
Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little hands. 
What say you?

Especially you N.Y. Jets fans -- there are some, aren't there?


LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen


Yeah.  I wonder which drug he was doing at that time....   ;-)
Jim

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:

> tinydog  sez:
> And the reason for that, had nothing whatsoever to do with music.
>  -------------- Original message from "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>:
> --------------
>
> When Keith Richards first heard Robert Johnson, he thought there were two
> guitar players playing.
> _______________________________________________

From frogeye at cox.net  Thu Aug  7 16:24:39 2008
From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:24:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rummage sale @ Comfort, Texas
Message-ID: <00a201c8f8dc$61a6e400$6401a8c0@maind>

Do any list members plan on going to the Auction recently posted by Elizabeth
on Aug 16/17 ?
If so please contact me offline. I have something there that needs to be sent
to me or packaged and shipped
Thanks
Alan
frogeye at cox.net

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Aug  7 17:16:47 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
Message-ID: <20080807231646.PUR26780.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Personally, I think Favre has a few issues in the head.

It will be strange not seeing 4 on the field through.  He will be missed.
There will be some great stories coming out of the woodwork though I'm sure.

LBC content, I will still have the game on in the garage.  I'm still a
Packer fan.


Chris

1966 MKIII
Brookfield, WI
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:17 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC

At first glance, I wondered if I shouldn't have started a big controversy 
here.

But, now, I want to start another one.  Peter C. and I agree that the G.B. 
Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little hands. 
What say you?

Especially you N.Y. Jets fans -- there are some, aren't there?


LAD

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu Aug  7 17:26:42 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:26:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <20080807231646.PUR26780.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080807231646.PUR26780.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <489B84B2.9080208@verizon.net>

"I think Favre has a few issues in the head."

	You mean like constipation?

				CB

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 17:35:06 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808070024y107d6692m8da6f01e9559b4bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <980858.26027.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I guess you guys will all step out of the room when I have "Desolation Row" played at my funeral.


--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
> To: 
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 2:24 AM
> That was singing??  Just goes to show you what marketing
> will do for a
> fella.  P.T. Barnum was right.....  ;-)
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On 8/6/08, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > ob Dylan would stop
> > > singing to play the harmonica, and he hacked out
> a living as well.
> > But he kept playing guitar while he sang or played
> harmonica.
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Aug  7 17:46:52 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:46:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
Message-ID: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>

Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to pull up to
my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............

My camera is ready along with R/B for Bob.  I'll post a pic or two of the
load and departure asap.

Glen

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug  7 18:02:34 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:02:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <20080807231646.PUR26780.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <CE76D726435346B5A00316BADF10E7AD@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC


Personally, I think Favre has a few issues in the head.

============

As Does Ted Thompson.  If they were so damn afraid of what he could do that 
they would only let him go to a team that couldn't hurt them, why did they 
let him go? 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 19:10:38 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808062030ia37ca10sd2ffdba1d3564441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <730072.81105.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 8/6/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would hardly take "Rolling Stone's" word as
> gospel on much of anything to
> do with music.

Amen, brother. Quite the conundrum...I disagree with the concept of "Greatest Lists" completely, but I agreed in 1981-83 ish when X's Wild Gift was named Record of the Year (or honorable mention or something) and a few others made the top 5. Unfortunately, I was very up with the concept of listening to music with 9 chords on average, and the radio douche bags weren't outside of NY and L.A.. 

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug  7 19:13:12 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:13:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <980858.26027.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4C0EBB8.18DB1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  P.T. Barnum was right.....  ;-)
H.B Barnum was more righter.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug  7 19:16:41 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:16:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <730072.81105.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4C0EC89.18DB3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> "Greatest Lists" 
When a journalist makes a list, 90% of the people on it will be those who
were popular when the writer was in high school. The other 10% will be
people he read about, but never really listened to.
Writers are people who can't do real life.
BZ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug  7 19:25:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:25:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>
	<84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
Message-ID: <EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>

> But, now, I want to start another one.  Peter C. and I agree that the G.B.
> Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little 
> hands.
> What say you?

I am with you. What football player, if pressed for an answer, does NOT feel 
like retiring at the end of the season? What glory the Packers have been 
able to garner since the days of Bart Starr has been largely due to Brett 
Favre IMHO. I am not a GB fan. Im not really a fan of anybody anymore. I 
woulda liked to have seen the looks on the faces of some of my GB fan 
friends to see BF QB for the CB, however... 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug  7 19:32:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:32:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
In-Reply-To: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>
References: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <489BA21A.6030004@comcast.net>

Glen Byrns wrote:
> Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to pull up to
> my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............
>
>   
Bob & Buster just called me about an hour ago. They are still putting 
the trailer together.
I think Bob is departing Buster's in the morning, I may be wrong.
Glen, if possible, remove the wide wheels and bolt the car to the 
trailer with some 1/2" bolts thru the floor.
Strategically drill the holes to act as drain hole in the future, or at 
least so I can put a plug in them.
Axle straps too.
David can take the wheels out of the car when it's his turn.
Any takers on the 1500 lump? if it makes it to Jersey, maybe Macy or 
Chris King want it?
I sure don't need another 1500 taking up space.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug  7 19:44:05 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:44:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
References: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>
	<489BA21A.6030004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <39106F97E5B14C5F9187E8AB6BE5B3AF@midget>

Lee Fox in the St Louis area was interested in the 1500 lumps.
David Lieb

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............


> Glen Byrns wrote:
>> Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to pull up 
>> to
>> my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............
>>
>>
> Bob & Buster just called me about an hour ago. They are still putting
> the trailer together.
> I think Bob is departing Buster's in the morning, I may be wrong.
> Glen, if possible, remove the wide wheels and bolt the car to the
> trailer with some 1/2" bolts thru the floor.
> Strategically drill the holes to act as drain hole in the future, or at
> least so I can put a plug in them.
> Axle straps too.
> David can take the wheels out of the car when it's his turn.
> Any takers on the 1500 lump? if it makes it to Jersey, maybe Macy or
> Chris King want it?
> I sure don't need another 1500 taking up space.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From RampantNM at aol.com  Thu Aug  7 20:28:13 2008
From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:28:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] who?
Message-ID: <cd5.36c7356f.35cd093d@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/7/2008 7:29:45 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes:

N.Y.  Jets

Who?

 
Regards,

Robert B. Houston

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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug  7 21:28:57 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:28:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEJICJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Peter C. and I agree that the G.B.
Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little hands.
>>

Yep, PPP & Larry<G>!!

Now I am only a Bears fan (2nd) but the Packers Head Office makes the Bears
Owners look GOOD (and they AIN'T!!!).  'Course the Commish is right up there
with his pick to re-instate him<BG>!!!

To make things worse (for themselves) 'The Pack' coulda just done nothing
and he woulda remained their 'property'<G>!!  Then again, Farve ain't to
bright either!!  How many of us woulda turned down $20 MILLION dollars just
to shut up and stay put???  Don't think I even need one hand to count
how many of us would side with Farve !?!?!?

PROVES he IS "The Ultimate Cheesehead" !!!!  LOL

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug  7 21:43:51 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:43:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
In-Reply-To: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEJICJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Glen Byrns on Spridgets at autox.team.net wrote and I quote:

<<Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to pull up to
my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............
My camera is ready along with R/B for Bob.  I'll post a pic or two of the
load and departure asap.>>

For STARTERS and just for this "adventure" might I suggest that either
someone step up to do the cross-posting needed (NO, I can't) so that all
three (3) Lists get same info?!?!?  OR everyone (like me<G>) join the ones
that they are not on inorder to achieve the same thing?!?!?!?

This could get INSANE !!!!	LOL

One to subject # 2 - Pictures AND verbages.

Please send to me (Frank & I have talked about this for a while) along with
your comments!!  And Frank with Buster.

ALL will end up HERE:	www.holysprite.org	!!  Site IS up but design IS
TEMP!!!!!  (I used www.BusterCluster2006.org as a quick pattern<G>)

Buster, as you can see I NEED your Intro Verbage ASAP, PLEASE!!!

More to follow, right Frank???<VBG>

Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug  7 21:08:04 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:08:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] who?
In-Reply-To: <cd5.36c7356f.35cd093d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <615124.23929.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 8/7/08, RampantNM at aol.com <RampantNM at aol.com> wrote: 
> N.Y.  Jets
> 
> Who?

They were a professional football team a long, long time ago.

Ron

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 22:44:55 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:44:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C0EC89.18DB3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <730072.81105.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C4C0EC89.18DB3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>

>  "Greatest Lists"


What good are lists? Might be fine for the people who make them up...
Remeber a couple of years ago when the Dixie Chickenshits won 5 awards at
the CMA (???)? Like they really deserved that! Yeah...

>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 23:35:58 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:35:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>
	<080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>
	<84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
	<EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com>

C'mon, guys. It takes 11 guys on the field to play football.  Put the
greatest player in the universe out there with 10 dumb f(#*Ks and see what
happens.  Farve's success with the Tally Whackers (I'm a Giants fan) was due
to the entire team, not just him. Sure he's a good quarterback, possibly
even a great one. But that doesn't amount to a row of beans if the rest of
the team can't play for $hit. You can't say any single player is "largely"
respondible for a team's success. When I was playing hockey professionally I
played with some of the best ever Hall of Famers and we still lost our a$$.
(Probably because *I* was on the ice  ;-).   Farve isn't some kinda God...
He's a good player, but he needs a good team around him to play that way!

Cheers!!
Jim - Hockey's answer to Bob Uecker

On 8/7/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>
> > But, now, I want to start another one.  Peter C. and I agree that the
> G.B.
> > Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little
> > hands.
> > What say you?
>
>
> I am with you. What football player, if pressed for an answer, does NOT
> feel
> like retiring at the end of the season? What glory the Packers have been
> able to garner since the days of Bart Starr has been largely due to Brett
> Favre IMHO. I am not a GB fan. Im not really a fan of anybody anymore. I
> woulda liked to have seen the looks on the faces of some of my GB fan
> friends to see BF QB for the CB, however...
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug  7 23:41:00 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:41:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4C12A7C.18DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> What good are lists?
If I'm on somebody's list, my wife sends a copy to my Mother-in-law and I
get cut a little extra slack for a few days. Aside from that, they're pretty
worthless.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug  7 23:50:10 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:50:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
In-Reply-To: <489BA21A.6030004@comcast.net>
References: <200808072346.m77Nkq3l015116@berna.ucdavis.edu>
	<489BA21A.6030004@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808072250q38bf8ac2wf5095c721d353c96@mail.gmail.com>

Talked to Bob and Buster about 50 minutes ago and they were just finishing
up the trailer.  Bob says he will leave in the morning for Glen's place.  I
asked about a trailer spare tire and they will send size info shortly via
email. I'll have a tarp and some binder twine to send along with the Holy
Sprite in case of rain and we'll have a lug wrench and spare 1 7/8" ball to
go along with the *package*.

Mike Osipik from the Kansas City Austion Healey Club will take the *package*
from me in Topeka, Kansas noon on Tuesday and deliver to David Lieb in St.
Louis on Wednesday I think. The Kansas City Club meeting is Tuesday evening
and Mike has advertised a "visitor" passing through the area for their
meeting. Pretty funny...  They won't be expecting the "Holy Sprite" rolling
in as a visitor!  ;-)

Once again, everyone please copy me <bmwwxman at gmail.com>, and Larry Macy <
lmacy at phillymgclub.com> with pictures and a few paragraphs of narrative
concerning your leg of the journey. Larry will post online info and I will
prepare the scrapbook and DVD for Father Jack.

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/7/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Glen Byrns wrote:
> > Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to pull up
> to
> > my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............
> >
> >
>
> Bob & Buster just called me about an hour ago. They are still putting
> the trailer together.
> I think Bob is departing Buster's in the morning, I may be wrong.
> Glen, if possible, remove the wide wheels and bolt the car to the
> trailer with some 1/2" bolts thru the floor.
> Strategically drill the holes to act as drain hole in the future, or at
> least so I can put a plug in them.
> Axle straps too.
> David can take the wheels out of the car when it's his turn.
> Any takers on the 1500 lump? if it makes it to Jersey, maybe Macy or
> Chris King want it?
> I sure don't need another 1500 taking up space.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 00:06:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 01:06:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <C4C12A7C.18DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4C12A7C.18DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808072306q36a44cdcv629b3c95f4fc3798@mail.gmail.com>

Bud Pazur mentioned some of my favorite Delta Blues maestros in Son House,
Mississippi John Hurt and, Robert Johnson. Each with a distinctive,
intricate, and identifiable style of playing. Then there is jazz, classical,
country , folk, and what have you.

My point is that the highest level of musicianship on the guitar would be
someone who is equally adept with all those styles, not just one or two.
When I see Hendrix listed high on any list I just want to hurl. In England
in the 60s I played with one of his sidemen and neither of us were very
impressed with his virtuosity.

Cheers!!
Jim

P.S. to Billy...   Send another $20 and I'll put you on the list!

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Fri Aug  8 00:55:31 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 02:55:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
Message-ID: <bc6.2cd62d2b.35cd47e3@aol.com>

except some motoring writers
 
In a message dated 08/08/2008 02:16:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

Writers  are people who can't do real life.

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 06:13:00 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 05:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
Message-ID: <866406.83088.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is there something special or critical in how the drive spindle is inserted for the distibutor? I'm using a longish bolt to insert it into the hole, kinda feeling my way intil it slips into the hole in the boss in the block and the gears mate. Should I do something different?

Joe

1275 in a 62

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 06:16:18 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 07:16:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
In-Reply-To: <866406.83088.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <866406.83088.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808080516v4352f6b3vcb913df630048b18@mail.gmail.com>

The narrow side of the slot has to point at around the 1 to 2 o'clock
position, with #1 piston at top dead center, IIRC.
Others can correct me, as I don't keep my Bentley here at work.

Brad

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Joe Lansing <kidjoevid at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is there something special or critical in how the drive spindle is inserted
> for the distibutor? I'm using a longish bolt to insert it into the hole,
> kinda feeling my way intil it slips into the hole in the boss in the block
> and the gears mate. Should I do something different?
>
> Joe
>
> 1275 in a 62
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From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Aug  8 06:34:29 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:34:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808072306q36a44cdcv629b3c95f4fc3798@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com><C4C12A7C.18DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<43840a7e0808072306q36a44cdcv629b3c95f4fc3798@mail.gmail.com>
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tinydog sez:

Except that Hendrix Created a style.

 -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>: --------------



> My point is that the highest level of musicianship on the guitar would be
> someone who is equally adept with all those styles, not just one or two.
> When I see Hendrix listed high on any list I just want to hurl. 

From tinydog at snet.net  Fri Aug  8 06:38:29 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:38:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>
References: <730072.81105.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><C4C0EC89.18DB3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>
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 tinydog sez:

Obviously the RNC was not voting. 
 -------------- Original message from CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>: --------------
> Remeber a couple of years ago when the Dixie Chickenshits won 5 awards at
> the CMA (???)? 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 07:27:38 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:27:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com><84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
	<EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
Message-ID: <E86E6161B5DE43808FB15125A6793890@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC


> But, now, I want to start another one.  Peter C. and I agree that the G.B.
> Packers are idiots for letting Brett Favre out of their slimy little
> hands.
> What say you?

I am with you. What football player, if pressed for an answer, does NOT feel
like retiring at the end of the season? What glory the Packers have been
able to garner since the days of Bart Starr has been largely due to Brett
Favre IMHO. I am not a GB fan. Im not really a fan of anybody anymore. I
woulda liked to have seen the looks on the faces of some of my GB fan
friends to see BF QB for the CB, however...
_______________________________________________

C'mon, David, the Bears already have a good quarterback.  Um... wait... 
sorry, I was thinking of somebody else.

LAD (hiding under my desk) 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 07:41:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com><84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry><EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
	<43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov>

> C'mon, guys. It takes 11 guys on the field to play football.  Put the
> greatest player in the universe out there with 10 dumb f(#*Ks and see what
> happens.

Yeah, that was Walter Payton's first nine years or so with the Bears! 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 07:44:33 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:44:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com><84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
	<EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
	<E86E6161B5DE43808FB15125A6793890@Larry>
Message-ID: <9BDD3B5A69FF4F1C8FE8BD38536624E0@NilesAD.von.gov>

> C'mon, David, the Bears already have a good quarterback.  Um... wait...
> sorry, I was thinking of somebody else.

No arguments there, either. I think they covered that pretty well last night 
from what the Daily Herald said on the front page this morning ;-) 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Aug  8 07:51:41 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:51:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>
	<080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>
	<84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
	<EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
	<43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com>
	<CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808085035.03a30d30@nosimport.com>

> > C'mon, guys. It takes 11 guys on the field to play football.  Put the
> > greatest player in the universe out there with 10 dumb f(#*Ks and see what
> > happens.

We will...... we will.
Give it a week.

Peter C. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug  8 07:59:29 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:59:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com><84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry><EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget><43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com><CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080808085035.03a30d30@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4F23B66352F64544BA36928A32418C54@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC


> > C'mon, guys. It takes 11 guys on the field to play football.  Put the
> > greatest player in the universe out there with 10 dumb f(#*Ks and see 
> > what
> > happens.

We will...... we will.
Give it a week.

Peter C.
_______________________________________________

After which the Green Bay Police Department will start hiring for Ted 
Thompson's around-the-clock security detail.

LAD 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 08:07:54 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:07:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net><080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com><84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry><EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget><43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com><CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov><7.0.1.0.2.20080808085035.03a30d30@nosimport.com>
	<4F23B66352F64544BA36928A32418C54@Larry>
Message-ID: <B6788BAA0BE2457F9FC492E7F1BEF957@NilesAD.von.gov>

> After which the Green Bay Police Department will start hiring for Ted
> Thompson's around-the-clock security detail.

I think I hope that they will have a real good screening process... 
Otherwise it will be the mice guarding the cheesehead ;-) 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 08:10:35 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen,  Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEJICJAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <06F8136EFDE44A6B886C96C32C4F228E@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Now I am only a Bears fan (2nd) but the Packers Head Office makes the 
> Bears Owners look GOOD (and they AIN'T!!!).  'Course the Commish is right 
> up there with his pick to re-instate him<BG>!!!
>
> To make things worse (for themselves) 'The Pack' coulda just done nothing 
> and he woulda remained their 'property'<G>!!  Then again, Farve ain't to 
> bright either!!  How many of us woulda turned down $20 MILLION dollars 
> just to shut up and stay put???  Don't think I even need one hand to count 
> how many of us would side with Farve !?!?!?
>
> PROVES he IS "The Ultimate Cheesehead" !!!!  LOL

Except that he isn't from Wisconsin and doesn't live there. I side with 
Favre. Five more of you out there to run ED out of fingers? 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Aug  8 08:17:24 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 09:17:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
In-Reply-To: <4F23B66352F64544BA36928A32418C54@Larry>
References: <200808071911.m77JB9t6022261@green.excel.net>
	<080720081944.9733.489B50A1000B95BD0000260522230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<43840a7e0808071508i7b51cf3exa97079594bc183d@mail.gmail.com>
	<84633759D0A444D1A7F0EE987FEA85C2@Larry>
	<EF5BD94DF7F5455585B1EC5B95473E83@midget>
	<43840a7e0808072235i2ecd5494q47d59c9369dd2dee@mail.gmail.com>
	<CB7CE3B6C52D4D72B2E94045D9D60350@NilesAD.von.gov>
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At 08:59 AM 8/8/2008, Larry Daniels wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter C" <peter at nosimport.com>
>To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; "Spridget List"
><spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bluesmen, Now Brett Favre -- still no LBC
>
>
> > > C'mon, guys. It takes 11 guys on the field to play football.  Put the
> > > greatest player in the universe out there with 10 dumb f(#*Ks and see
> > > what
> > > happens.
>
>We will...... we will.
>Give it a week.
>
>Peter C.
>_______________________________________________
>
>After which the Green Bay Police Department will start hiring for Ted
>Thompson's around-the-clock security detail.
>
>LAD
===============
There will someday be a street named Thompson Way in Green Bay.

It'll be a dead end starting at Holmgren Way, and not long enough to 
park on....

Peter 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Aug  8 09:14:13 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:14:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Midget pic needed
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808101039.03d141d0@mailbag.com>

Would someone be so kind as to forward me either a picture or a site 
address for a picture.

Specifically we need the rear deck area. I have someone who needs to 
see how the original top and tonneau were attached. At the moment he 
has 14 ! snaps along the rear rearward of the 2 chrome darts. I'd 
like him to see how it should be. He is wanting to fill the excess holes.

Thanks   Peter

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 10:46:57 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 11:46:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] blues link (no LBC content)
In-Reply-To: <080820081234.21284.489C3D55000A669E0000532422230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <b777e2be0808072144v19105180s6367189d3eb9e063@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4C12A7C.18DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<43840a7e0808072306q36a44cdcv629b3c95f4fc3798@mail.gmail.com>
	<080820081234.21284.489C3D55000A669E0000532422230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808080946tcf11f4fu72e96b47ebb0d6d2@mail.gmail.com>

"Noise" had already been invented....

Cheers!!
Jim

On 8/8/08, tinydog at snet.net <tinydog at snet.net> wrote:
>
> tinydog sez:
>
> Except that Hendrix Created a style.
>
>   -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>:
> --------------
>
>
>
>
> > My point is that the highest level of musicianship on the guitar would be
> > someone who is equally adept with all those styles, not just one or two.
> > When I see Hendrix listed high on any list I just want to hurl.
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Aug  8 11:30:05 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:30:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff
In-Reply-To: <01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>
References: <20080804.103151.19317.2@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020u661bdd81ya2566ade0e402d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020h222c07cdr549a899c17feb169@mail.gmail.com>
	<009c01c8f65c$e9bc1220$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<BD94AE374961493E972026DF098660D8@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00df01c8f677$f0fa3650$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>
Message-ID: <9C8FC65A59ED4948A7B178652C9C0454@Home>

>I went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round trailer
> light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer.

I have a Dodge minivan that is not really supposed to tow much without an 
oil cooler.  I don't doubt it can tow a Spridget, and I can get a receiver 
from the Whitney catalogue.  But I will have to cut into the wiring 
somewhere to put in a socket for a connector.  Does anyone have any 
recommendations on the best place to cut into the wiring?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Aug  8 11:46:13 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 10:46:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Midget pic needed
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808101039.03d141d0@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808101039.03d141d0@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <005401c8f97e$a7af2cd0$9f03f204@spider>

Do you Google? Click on Images option at top, then enter 64 Midget on page
that pops up. ...bill in oregon
==========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Peter C
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:14 AM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Midget pic needed

Would someone be so kind as to forward me either a picture or a site 
address for a picture.

Specifically we need the rear deck area. I have someone who needs to 
see how the original top and tonneau were attached. At the moment he 
has 14 ! snaps along the rear rearward of the 2 chrome darts. I'd 
like him to see how it should be. He is wanting to fill the excess holes.

Thanks   Peter
_______________________________________________

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 11:54:09 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:54:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff
In-Reply-To: <9C8FC65A59ED4948A7B178652C9C0454@Home>
References: <20080804.103151.19317.2@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020u661bdd81ya2566ade0e402d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020h222c07cdr549a899c17feb169@mail.gmail.com>
	<009c01c8f65c$e9bc1220$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<BD94AE374961493E972026DF098660D8@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00df01c8f677$f0fa3650$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget>
	<9C8FC65A59ED4948A7B178652C9C0454@Home>
Message-ID: <d66433d0808081054n15d1985fn6e14150fcfa7c193@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,

Most of the wiring kits you get come with those connects that tap
directly into your wiring without cutting/splicing.  They instruct you
to connect to the wiring harness for your rear lights since everything
you need is all in one place (rear, brake and reverse lights).

Greg

On 8/8/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> >I went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round trailer
> > light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer.
>
> I have a Dodge minivan that is not really supposed to tow much without an
> oil cooler.  I don't doubt it can tow a Spridget, and I can get a receiver
> from the Whitney catalogue.  But I will have to cut into the wiring
> somewhere to put in a socket for a connector.  Does anyone have any
> recommendations on the best place to cut into the wiring?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Aug  8 12:02:28 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:02:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Midget pic needed, NO MORE
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808101039.03d141d0@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808101039.03d141d0@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080808130155.03d9c3f8@nosimport.com>

Got what I needed.

Thanks guys.

Peter
==
At 10:14 AM 8/8/2008, Peter C wrote:
>Would someone be so kind as to forward me either a picture or a site
>address for a picture.
>
>Specifically we need the rear deck area. I have someone who needs to
>see how the original top and tonneau were attached. At the moment he
>has 14 ! snaps along the rear rearward of the 2 chrome darts. I'd
>like him to see how it should be. He is wanting to fill the excess holes.
>
>Thanks   Peter

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Aug  8 13:22:51 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:22:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Torin Jacks
Message-ID: <05969AAF102042A6BF46F82E69C4B1A3@Home>

We have had so many reports of shoddy goods and service, that I thought I should report an example of good service.

I bought a Torin aluminum racing jack from Price Club Online that began to leak fluid within a few months.  Torin's Customer Service representative sent useful information and advice for a repair, and offered to replace the entire pump in 4-6 weeks when parts came in from China.  The pump arrived within about two weeks (on my birthday).

I would, of course, prefer that it not leak in the first place.  But given that it did, the response from Torin was excellent.

Michael Rowe
"74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 14:40:46 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:40:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
Message-ID: <593365.88081.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Duhhh...what retainer?


-
> Tie a string to your bolt, and don't remove the bolt
> without the retainer in
> place.
> 		Crash  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Joe
> Lansing
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:13 AM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
> 
> Is there something special or critical in how the drive
> spindle is inserted
> for the distibutor? I'm using a longish bolt to insert
> it into the hole,
> kinda feeling my way intil it slips into the hole in the
> boss in the block
> and the gears mate. Should I do something different?
> 
> Joe
> 
> 1275 in a 62
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 14:48:42 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:48:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
In-Reply-To: <593365.88081.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <593365.88081.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808081348n9f02926o50a344468b32b3c2@mail.gmail.com>

When you pull your dizzy, the clamp is bolted down to your "retainer".
Remove the 7/16" bolt that holds it in, to be able to pull the timing gear
unit.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Joe Lansing <kidjoevid at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Duhhh...what retainer?
>
>
> -
> > Tie a string to your bolt, and don't remove the bolt
> > without the retainer in
> > place.
> >               Crash
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+dwramsey <spridgets-bounces%2Bdwramsey>=
> att.net at autox.team.net]
> > On Behalf Of Joe
> > Lansing
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:13 AM
> > To: Spridgets
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
> >
> > Is there something special or critical in how the drive
> > spindle is inserted
> > for the distibutor? I'm using a longish bolt to insert
> > it into the hole,
> > kinda feeling my way intil it slips into the hole in the
> > boss in the block
> > and the gears mate. Should I do something different?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > 1275 in a 62
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 15:47:16 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:47:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808081348n9f02926o50a344468b32b3c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <249445.15920.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK. I was thinking I had overlooked a spring clip or something...


--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle install
> To: kidjoevid at yahoo.com
> Cc: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 9:48 PM
> When you pull your dizzy, the clamp is bolted down to your
> "retainer".
> Remove the 7/16" bolt that holds it in, to be able to
> pull the timing gear
> unit.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Joe Lansing
> <kidjoevid at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Duhhh...what retainer?
> >
> >
> > -
> > > Tie a string to your bolt, and don't remove
> the bolt
> > > without the retainer in
> > > place.
> > >               Crash
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> spridgets-bounces+dwramsey=att.net at autox.team.net
> > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+dwramsey
> <spridgets-bounces%2Bdwramsey>=
> > att.net at autox.team.net]
> > > On Behalf Of Joe
> > > Lansing
> > > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:13 AM
> > > To: Spridgets
> > > Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor drive spindle
> install
> > >
> > > Is there something special or critical in how the
> drive
> > > spindle is inserted
> > > for the distibutor? I'm using a longish bolt
> to insert
> > > it into the hole,
> > > kinda feeling my way intil it slips into the hole
> in the
> > > boss in the block
> > > and the gears mate. Should I do something
> different?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > 1275 in a 62
> > > _______________________________________________
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 15:54:38 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
Message-ID: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been fighting with this off and on for months. I think I've checked everything. What else should I look for?

Distributor (124 Ignition Dizzy)

1. Drive spindle is seated good, slot is aligned 2:00 and 8:00 at TDC.
2. Distributor is inserted, shaft snugs into spindle.
3. Distributor is turned CW until green light just comes on.
4. Rotor is at 12:00
5. Cap is installed. Wires to 1342.
6. Gas is on, ignition on. Plugs show spark.
7. pull a plug and slightly wet after long try.

Not a cough. What the flip am I doing wrong?

Joe

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 16:05:03 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:05:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
In-Reply-To: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <391239CD-F424-4556-A855-0474DB28D47B@comcast.net>

Firing order is off.  Can be caused by:

Plug wires going to wrong plugs

Thinking that the dizzy is rotating one direction when it rotates the  
other

Thinking that you are at TDC on #1 when you are really at TDC on  
another cylinder (Marks still line up)

Dwell (Point gap) is too much or too little giving weak spark

All plugs are now fouled from not starting with the presence of fuel  
for so long

Bad run of plugs

Head gasket blown so that there is no or little compression

These are the ones that have plagued me in the past anyway.  ;-)

Lester

On Aug 8, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Joe Lansing wrote:

> I've been fighting with this off and on for months. I think I've  
> checked everything. What else should I look for?
>
> Distributor (124 Ignition Dizzy)
>
> 1. Drive spindle is seated good, slot is aligned 2:00 and 8:00 at TDC.
> 2. Distributor is inserted, shaft snugs into spindle.
> 3. Distributor is turned CW until green light just comes on.
> 4. Rotor is at 12:00
> 5. Cap is installed. Wires to 1342.
> 6. Gas is on, ignition on. Plugs show spark.
> 7. pull a plug and slightly wet after long try.
>
> Not a cough. What the flip am I doing wrong?
>
> Joe

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug  8 17:24:19 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:24:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
In-Reply-To: <391239CD-F424-4556-A855-0474DB28D47B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEENFCJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<These are the ones that have plagued me in the past anyway. >>

<G>, Lester!!

AND, contrary to popular 'opinion' the dizzy CAN be put in 180 degrees OUT
(backwards)!!!  BTDT and cured cars with exact same symptoms as Joe has!!

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  8 16:54:10 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:54:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
In-Reply-To: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W488317E4E7001CBC43AC03CA740@phx.gbl>

Something that I have done before in cases like this is to run a wire straight
from the top of the coil to one of the plugs (plug wire is best but any wire
will work). This gives that plug a spark 4 times as often as normal but at
least tells you that it is firing. The engine will run (roughly) on one plug
and allow you to start figuring out what is really wrong.
Bill> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:54:38 -0700> From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire> >
I've been fighting with this off and on for months. I think I've checked
everything. What else should I look for?> > Distributor (124 Ignition Dizzy)>
> 1. Drive spindle is seated good, slot is aligned 2:00 and 8:00 at TDC.> 2.
Distributor is inserted, shaft snugs into spindle.> 3. Distributor is turned
CW until green light just comes on.> 4. Rotor is at 12:00> 5. Cap is
installed. Wires to 1342.> 6. Gas is on, ignition on. Plugs show spark.> 7.
pull a plug and slightly wet after long try.> > Not a cough. What the flip am
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Fri Aug  8 16:56:01 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 15:56:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff
In-Reply-To: <9C8FC65A59ED4948A7B178652C9C0454@Home>
References: <20080804.103151.19317.2@webmail21.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020u661bdd81ya2566ade0e402d3d@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808041020h222c07cdr549a899c17feb169@mail.gmail.com>
	<009c01c8f65c$e9bc1220$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<BD94AE374961493E972026DF098660D8@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<00df01c8f677$f0fa3650$0200a8c0@mosipik>
	<01CB205525A34135AC24A592EF29E5AA@midget> 
	<9C8FC65A59ED4948A7B178652C9C0454@Home>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W531931C4BB49EAADAB4FE0CA740@phx.gbl>

What I did with my Caravan(1995) was just unscrew the two taillights, splice
the wires there and reattach the lights, easy.
Bill> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 13:30:05 -0400> From: mdrowe at optonline.net> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Handoff> > >I
went out and bought an adapter tonight to convert my 6-wire round trailer> >
light connector on the tow vehicle to flat-4 for the trailer.> > I have a
Dodge minivan that is not really supposed to tow much without an > oil cooler.
I don't doubt it can tow a Spridget, and I can get a receiver > from the
Whitney catalogue. But I will have to cut into the wiring > somewhere to put
in a socket for a connector. Does anyone have any > recommendations on the
best place to cut into the wiring?> > Michael Rowe> '74 Midget> Long Island,
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 17:55:42 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:55:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
In-Reply-To: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <467806.41569.qm@web33206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <489CDCFE.1010504@comcast.net>

Joe Lansing wrote:
> I've been fighting with this off and on for months. I think I've checked everything. What else should I look for?
>
> 4. Rotor is at 12:00
>
>   
If the engine is at TDC, the vac advance pointing at about 1:00, the 
rotor should be pointing at 2:00.
Me thinks your dizzy drive is out by 90*
Try moving the plug wires over 1 each. New firing order is 2-1-3-4 with 
everything where you have it.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 20:01:03 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:01:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808062034y77b9d67ctad666152f0c53b22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>
	<4DAA38E8-9A99-4F2F-8BB3-84171DE058B4@phillymgclub.com>
	<43840a7e0808062034y77b9d67ctad666152f0c53b22@mail.gmail.com>
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Joke is lost when I didn't see it for 2 days, ya bum


On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I just started a new Wiki for "Larry Macy".  It's already been  
> completely
> re-written by 5 neo-facist perverts and 2 gay rights nuts!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 8/6/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
>>
>> What I like about wikipedia is that you can 1) edit it, and 2) go  
>> look
>> to see who has changed the article. Most of the names mean nothing to
>> me, but I have found a few folks I know. (Hit the History tab)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Peter C wrote:
>>
>>> Ya mean like....
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake
>>>
>>> Ed Lieb
>>>
>>>
>>> At 02:13 PM 8/6/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>>>> Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their
>>>> scope.
>>>> Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
>>>>
>>>> The point I was making was that just because it says so in
>>>> Wikipedia  doesn't
>>>> meant it is 100% correct.
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,
>>>> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Even  Spridget
>>>> books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good
>>>> considering its
>>>> scope.
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> Board Member at Large
>> Philadelphia MG Club
>>
>> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a
>> parked car.
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

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arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 19:58:02 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 21:58:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Berkeley SE 492 Roadster
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808062034y77b9d67ctad666152f0c53b22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d04.3b0e6ec3.35cb51e9@aol.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080806141745.03b97888@nosimport.com>
	<4DAA38E8-9A99-4F2F-8BB3-84171DE058B4@phillymgclub.com>
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Joke is lost when I didn't see it for 2 days, ya bum


On Aug 6, 2008, at 11:34 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I just started a new Wiki for "Larry Macy".  It's already been  
> completely
> re-written by 5 neo-facist perverts and 2 gay rights nuts!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On 8/6/08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
>>
>> What I like about wikipedia is that you can 1) edit it, and 2) go  
>> look
>> to see who has changed the article. Most of the names mean nothing to
>> me, but I have found a few folks I know. (Hit the History tab)
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Peter C wrote:
>>
>>> Ya mean like....
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weslake
>>>
>>> Ed Lieb
>>>
>>>
>>> At 02:13 PM 8/6/2008, Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
>>>> Alternatively some Spridget books do pretty good considering their
>>>> scope.
>>>> Even Wikipedia is prone to mistakes.
>>>>
>>>> The point I was making was that just because it says so in
>>>> Wikipedia  doesn't
>>>> meant it is 100% correct.
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 06/08/2008 17:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,
>>>> dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> Even  Spridget
>>>> books are prone to mistakes. Wikipedia does pretty good
>>>> considering its
>>>> scope.
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> Board Member at Large
>> Philadelphia MG Club
>>
>> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a
>> parked car.
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 20:05:35 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:05:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite.............
In-Reply-To: <489BA21A.6030004@comcast.net>
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I am always taking a lump on this list, so one more won't hurt, well  
not as bad anyway. Supposing it actually gets here.

Larry

On Aug 7, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Glen Byrns wrote:
>> Its 4:45 Thursday Aug 7th.  Is Bob on the road?  Is he about to  
>> pull up to
>> my door and begin a great story?  Quivering with ..............
>>
>>
> Bob & Buster just called me about an hour ago. They are still putting
> the trailer together.
> I think Bob is departing Buster's in the morning, I may be wrong.
> Glen, if possible, remove the wide wheels and bolt the car to the
> trailer with some 1/2" bolts thru the floor.
> Strategically drill the holes to act as drain hole in the future, or  
> at
> least so I can put a plug in them.
> Axle straps too.
> David can take the wheels out of the car when it's his turn.
> Any takers on the 1500 lump? if it makes it to Jersey, maybe Macy or
> Chris King want it?
> I sure don't need another 1500 taking up space.
>
> -- 
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> Toms River, NJ
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 20:21:55 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:21:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
Message-ID: <080920080221.19900.489CFF430008C57D00004DBC2216548686000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

I have a late 74 that has the same license plate mount as a 75, but i want the look of 1970-early 74.  How are the license plate lights mounted to the split rear bumpers and how does the wiring travel through the trunk?  anybody have a picture?
thanks
ryan

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 20:26:45 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:26:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cheap 76 Midget 4 sale <cough>
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP17D9EA11B19C85D773BF52B8750@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP17D9EA11B19C85D773BF52B8750@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <89FEC7D7-5156-408E-8A4A-1C95A84BEE94@phillymgclub.com>

I just went back an looked. $16K for a 76 Midget?? $15K on a  
"professional evaluation" Mine is worth $8K at that rate. Wanna make a  
bid?? only half what he wants!!

Larry

On Aug 7, 2008, at 7:13 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> http://ottawa.kijiji.ca./c-ViewAd?AdId=66918969
>
>
>
> Is that black paint behind the rear wheel well the way that it is  
> supposed
> to be?  I've seen an awful lot of cars like that recently, but I  
> thought
> that it should be body colour.
>
>
>
> Robert D.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Aug  8 20:32:43 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 22:32:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
In-Reply-To: <080920080221.19900.489CFF430008C57D00004DBC2216548686000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <080920080221.19900.489CFF430008C57D00004DBC2216548686000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <847DE811-4C79-4C5C-B8C8-90D6B47BC97A@phillymgclub.com>

Ryan, the list will not get the attachment, but here is a shot of  
Kristi's 74 plate
On Aug 8, 2008, at 10:21 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> I have a late 74 that has the same license plate mount as a 75, but  
> i want the look of 1970-early 74.  How are the license plate lights  
> mounted to the split rear bumpers and how does the wiring travel  
> through the trunk?  anybody have a picture?
> thanks
> ryan
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Aug  8 20:38:31 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 02:38:31 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
Message-ID: <080920080238.18644.489D0327000C7667000048D422165486869B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>

thats the same as mine. kristi's car and mine are about a month apart but the early (january-march) midgets had the same as the 1970- license plate design

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> 
Ryan, the list will not get the attachment, but here is a shot of Kristi's 74 plate

On Aug 8, 2008, at 10:21 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:


I have a late 74 that has the same license plate mount as a 75, but i want the look of 1970-early 74.  How are the license plate lights mounted to the split rear bumpers and how does the wiring travel through the trunk?  anybody have a picture?
thanks
ryan
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 20:53:09 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:53:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
In-Reply-To: <080920080238.18644.489D0327000C7667000048D422165486869B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
References: <080920080238.18644.489D0327000C7667000048D422165486869B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808081953i60b065acs6657c7fc3adc3e14@mail.gmail.com>

I went the other way with my 74 and installed a plate bracket from a
later car so I could get rid of the bumpers.
IIRC, there are 4 holes in the back, two for LP lights if you have the
bracket with the lights and two for LP lights if you have lights in
the bumpers.
My 74 had 4 holes, at any rate.
Cheers,
Derf

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  8 20:55:20 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:55:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808081953i60b065acs6657c7fc3adc3e14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <080920080238.18644.489D0327000C7667000048D422165486869B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
	<5f00d9910808081953i60b065acs6657c7fc3adc3e14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808081955o42ea29bek64efb56299577ed@mail.gmail.com>

I'll attach a pic showing the holes on my 74.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of rear2.jpg]

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  8 21:02:54 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rear license plate mount on 70-74 midget
In-Reply-To: <080920080238.18644.489D0327000C7667000048D422165486869B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <682206.29190.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Fri, 8/8/08, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> how does the wiring travel through the trunk?  anybody have
> a picture?

Not sure if this helps, Ryan, but here's the flickr set of shots of my 1970.  There are a few of the back and boot. The car and I are currently 1300 from each other or I'd get a few pix. Sorry about that.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/sets/72157600891110819

Ron

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri Aug  8 21:36:23 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 20:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite loaded
Message-ID: <200808090336.m793aNVp020961@citheronia.ucdavis.edu>

Bob has arrived and the tub is loaded.  We've had dinner and Bob is going
to spend the night and get on the road in the morning.  I posted a couple
of pics to Ed which will hopefully show up on the website eventually.

Best,
Glen

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Aug  9 02:03:44 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 04:03:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire
Message-ID: <c37.3802aca6.35cea960@aol.com>

I've heard of that and it's a neat idea and if the engine doesn't fire then  
the coil is bad for some reason or other.
 
In a message dated 08/08/2008 23:54:20 GMT Daylight Time,  
billmasq at hotmail.com writes:

Something that I have done before in cases like this is to run a wire  
straight
from the top of the coil to one of the plugs (plug wire is best  but any wire
will work). 

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Aug  9 04:31:09 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 06:31:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
Message-ID: <73F1D939-23A5-428A-BF2F-85BBFFFE5BCC@phillymgclub.com>

Well here is a few initial Images from the Holy Sprite Journey to  
Redemption. I just set this up for a quickie pic history

These are of Bob assembling the trailer at Buster's

http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141

If you want to add to the gallery simply email pics to lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com 
  That will add them direct to the gallery. No muss no fuss.

Ed is hosting the semi-official site so these images are also  
downloadable to be added to his holysprite.org site, or if anyone else  
want copies..
-- 

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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  9 07:04:00 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:04:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] removing a broken stud
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>

My memory fails me, but someone here was having problems removing a broken
stud ( from a seat belt rear well hump? ) and I passed on what someone once
told me, though I had never tried it.  The restorer suggested welding a bead
on the end of the stud, wait a bit, weld a bead on the end of the bead, etc,
until you had something that you could get vise grips onto.  Then screw it
out.  The heat and cool recycling should have freed it up if it was seized.
Here's a similar idea shown in a how-to video.  

 

http://www.expertvillage.com/video/11073_mig-welding-remove-broken-stud.htm

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Aug  9 07:12:38 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] removing a broken stud
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DC34831A-06C0-4F36-B5E2-E3873EB4986A@phillymgclub.com>

See Loreena Bobbit for removing studs


On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> My memory fails me, but someone here was having problems removing a  
> broken
> stud ( from a seat belt rear well hump? ) and I passed on what  
> someone once
> told me, though I had never tried it.  The restorer suggested  
> welding a bead
> on the end of the stud, wait a bit, weld a bead on the end of the  
> bead, etc,
> until you had something that you could get vise grips onto.  Then  
> screw it
> out.  The heat and cool recycling should have freed it up if it was  
> seized.
> Here's a similar idea shown in a how-to video.
>
>
>
> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/11073_mig-welding-remove-broken-stud.htm
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arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
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worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From bighealey at charter.net  Sat Aug  9 07:13:35 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 06:13:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The list come through again
Message-ID: <83CF27891EF34B6FA87001A39DD367D1@TRACY>

Thanks to all who responded from the Oxford Detroit area.  Al Fuller came
through and my daughters parts are now on the UPS truck.

 

You guys rock !   Well except Ed.

 

Cheers

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 07:21:49 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The list come through again
In-Reply-To: <83CF27891EF34B6FA87001A39DD367D1@TRACY>
References: <83CF27891EF34B6FA87001A39DD367D1@TRACY>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808090621h3b3c671auf02c84fb33a96940@mail.gmail.com>

Now Now, Ed rocks too.
Oh, wait, we THROW rocks at Ed......

Sorry, it's still early, I was confused.

LOL

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>wrote:

> Thanks to all who responded from the Oxford Detroit area.  Al Fuller came
> through and my daughters parts are now on the UPS truck.
>
>
>
> You guys rock !   Well except Ed.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Aug  9 07:26:17 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:26:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The list come through again
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808090621h3b3c671auf02c84fb33a96940@mail.gmail.com>
References: <83CF27891EF34B6FA87001A39DD367D1@TRACY>
	<e98d88090808090621h3b3c671auf02c84fb33a96940@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A905000-3EED-4252-9F0C-249CEF4C0B10@phillymgclub.com>

I thought we threw Ed under the bus, not throw rocks at him

JJJS

On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> Now Now, Ed rocks too.
> Oh, wait, we THROW rocks at Ed......
>
> Sorry, it's still early, I was confused.
>
> LOL
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Tracy Drummond  
> <bighealey at charter.net>wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all who responded from the Oxford Detroit area.  Al  
>> Fuller came
>> through and my daughters parts are now on the UPS truck.
>>
>>
>>
>> You guys rock !   Well except Ed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>>
>> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Aug  9 07:40:50 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:40:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] removing a broken stud
In-Reply-To: <DC34831A-06C0-4F36-B5E2-E3873EB4986A@phillymgclub.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>
	<DC34831A-06C0-4F36-B5E2-E3873EB4986A@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP264D23E218CBFD0F63D1CB8770@phx.gbl>

Completely different technique.  She bobs it, while this adds to it.
<groan>  :-)

 

  _____  

From: Larry Macy [mailto:lmacy at phillymgclub.com] 



See Loreena Bobbit for removing studs

 

 

On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:04 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:





My memory fails me, but someone here was having problems removing a broken
stud ( from a seat belt rear well hump? ) and I passed on what someone once
told me, though I had never tried it.  The restorer suggested welding a bead
on the end of the stud, wait a bit, weld a bead on the end of the bead, etc,
until you had something that you could get vise grips onto.  Then screw it
out.  The heat and cool recycling should have freed it up if it was seized.
Here's a similar idea shown in a how-to video.  



http://www.expertvillage.com/video/11073_mig-welding-remove-broken-stud.htm

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 07:53:16 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 08:53:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
In-Reply-To: <73F1D939-23A5-428A-BF2F-85BBFFFE5BCC@phillymgclub.com>
References: <73F1D939-23A5-428A-BF2F-85BBFFFE5BCC@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808090653vd3a8d36hdf02d13db3346fb7@mail.gmail.com>

ED!!! Get yer site up and running, PLEASE!!!
Macy's site hates my browsers......

Thanks,

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> Well here is a few initial Images from the Holy Sprite Journey to
> Redemption. I just set this up for a quickie pic history
>
> These are of Bob assembling the trailer at Buster's
>
> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>
> If you want to add to the gallery simply email pics to
> lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com
>  That will add them direct to the gallery. No muss no fuss.
>
> Ed is hosting the semi-official site so these images are also
> downloadable to be added to his holysprite.org site, or if anyone else
> want copies..
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Aug  9 08:08:07 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:08:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808090653vd3a8d36hdf02d13db3346fb7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73F1D939-23A5-428A-BF2F-85BBFFFE5BCC@phillymgclub.com>
	<e98d88090808090653vd3a8d36hdf02d13db3346fb7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D5A62E4E-FCB5-437B-9F3D-3ED7E9486E94@phillymgclub.com>

Use a real browser ;-)

Works fine in FIrefox 2 in Windows

But not in IE 6, sorry


On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> ED!!! Get yer site up and running, PLEASE!!!
> Macy's site hates my browsers......
>
> Thanks,
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>  
> wrote:
> Well here is a few initial Images from the Holy Sprite Journey to
> Redemption. I just set this up for a quickie pic history
>
> These are of Bob assembling the trailer at Buster's
>
> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>
> If you want to add to the gallery simply email pics to lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com
>  That will add them direct to the gallery. No muss no fuss.
>
> Ed is hosting the semi-official site so these images are also
> downloadable to be added to his holysprite.org site, or if anyone else
> want copies..
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
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question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From p.herder at cox.net  Sat Aug  9 08:16:09 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:16:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
In-Reply-To: <D5A62E4E-FCB5-437B-9F3D-3ED7E9486E94@phillymgclub.com>
References: <73F1D939-23A5-428A-BF2F-85BBFFFE5BCC@phillymgclub.com>
	<e98d88090808090653vd3a8d36hdf02d13db3346fb7@mail.gmail.com>
	<D5A62E4E-FCB5-437B-9F3D-3ED7E9486E94@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <489DA6A9.7010103@cox.net>

Works in IE7 and Foxfire 3...

Larry Macy wrote:
> Use a real browser ;-)
>
> Works fine in FIrefox 2 in Windows
>
> But not in IE 6, sorry
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>   
>> ED!!! Get yer site up and running, PLEASE!!!
>> Macy's site hates my browsers......
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>  
>> wrote:
>> Well here is a few initial Images from the Holy Sprite Journey to
>> Redemption. I just set this up for a quickie pic history
>>
>> These are of Bob assembling the trailer at Buster's
>>
>> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>>
>> If you want to add to the gallery simply email pics to lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com
>>  That will add them direct to the gallery. No muss no fuss.
>>
>> Ed is hosting the semi-official site so these images are also
>> downloadable to be added to his holysprite.org site, or if anyone else
>> want copies..
>> --
>>
>> Larry Macy
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
>> Board Member at Large
>> Philadelphia MG Club
>>
>> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
>> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> DON JULIO 1942
>>
>> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug  9 08:22:26 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 07:22:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The list come through again
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808090621h3b3c671auf02c84fb33a96940@mail.gmail.com>
References: <83CF27891EF34B6FA87001A39DD367D1@TRACY>
	<e98d88090808090621h3b3c671auf02c84fb33a96940@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1496928420.20080809072226@pacifier.com>

Hello Brad,

> Now Now, Ed rocks too.
 > .Oh, wait, we THROW rocks at Ed...


 or are you guys just STONED?

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 Don't let school interfere with your education. 

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 09:37:51 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 11:37:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake/clutch pedal bushes
References: <C924FD1D-0E4E-4658-B0AE-AD1914234201@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79B9101A-73E7-4D48-B32D-E72867093D9F@gmail.com>

>> How much play should there be in the brake and clutch pedals?  Mine  
>> wobble on the bolt but are not sliding side to side in the box.  I  
>> do have the spacer fitted between the pedals.
>>
>> The bushes look good and measure 7/16 so maybe the bolt needs  
>> replacing.  The bolt is pitted from the POs leaky master.
>>
>> When I fit a new 7/16th bolt its better but still has wobble, the  
>> bolt threads are 7/16 and the original is 1/4 on the nutted side.
>>
>> Are the bolts available or can I enlarge the pedal box hole to fit  
>> a standard bolt?
>>
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Aug  9 09:50:15 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:50:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
Message-ID: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>

Harrington Park, NJ

http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/788925618.html

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 09:57:19 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:57:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
In-Reply-To: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>
References: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808090857x4e92bf50te867fcc8365a989e@mail.gmail.com>

Two hour drive, Frank.
Jim

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Harrington Park, NJ
>
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/788925618.html

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 10:30:39 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:30:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
Message-ID: <205cef430808090930t6e3c70bkd03833e9ebeef035@mail.gmail.com>

List I just received this from Anita Orne who owns a 62 Deep Pink Sprite in
WA. I think you will all enjoy it. Her Sprite was in a box for years before
she got it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM

Best wishes & happy Spridgeting,
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug  9 10:39:58 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 11:39:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
References: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>
Message-ID: <006001c8fa3e$90246600$6401a8c0@personal>

Wow, why is that not down here in NW Florida.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free


> Harrington Park, NJ
>
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/788925618.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 10:44:45 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:44:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] removing needle & seat SU carb. need help
Message-ID: <205cef430808090944t38e2d213p36932f3a38bf61bd@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I don't see my previous message so I am assuming it is slow or lost, I have
a stuck needle in my SU HS-2 carb. I think it is dirt so I used my
compressed air and it moves but still sticks in the top of the carb housing.
Can I just remove the needle assembly and check it and how do I get the
float off to do that?
Thanks Linda

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 10:46:57 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 12:46:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] stuck needle message found
Message-ID: <205cef430808090946u34034143k85ce06494c227286@mail.gmail.com>

I found the message on my carb see below:

List & Frank,
Frank you were right about my carburetor the needle on one float assembly
keeps sticking to the top of the housing, I can free it with compressed air
but then it sticks up again. How can I get that to slide up and down freely
without buying a new set of needles right away (I am guessing that I am
using the proper terminology correct me if I'm wrong)? I see in the Moss
catalog they sell a needle & seat set but they also list a Grose Jet, as a
superior replacement. What is your opinion as well as the group's opinion?
Thanks in advance & sorry if I haven't been keeping up with the list mail,
Linda

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Aug  9 11:15:29 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:15:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] stuck needle message found
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808090946u34034143k85ce06494c227286@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430808090946u34034143k85ce06494c227286@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430808091015j2623a22ch7fe2b43ead2e8407@mail.gmail.com>

I think I found a good site to clean up my carb. I think Frank was right as
I ran out of gas the dirt clogged the needle assembly check out this page.
http://www.ccgtvonline.com/Resources/S.U.Carb.pdf
Lin

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> I found the message on my carb see below:
>
> List & Frank,
> Frank you were right about my carburetor the needle on one float assembly
> keeps sticking to the top of the housing, I can free it with compressed air
> but then it sticks up again. How can I get that to slide up and down freely
> without buying a new set of needles right away (I am guessing that I am
> using the proper terminology correct me if I'm wrong)? I see in the Moss
> catalog they sell a needle & seat set but they also list a Grose Jet, as a
> superior replacement. What is your opinion as well as the group's opinion?
> Thanks in advance & sorry if I haven't been keeping up with the list mail,
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sat Aug  9 11:38:13 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 13:38:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] The list come through again
Message-ID: <c07.40c717c5.35cf3005@aol.com>

He rolls??
 
In a message dated 09/08/2008 14:15:42 GMT Daylight Time,  
bighealey at charter.net writes:

You guys  rock !   Well except Ed.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Aug  9 13:11:18 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 15:11:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808090930t6e3c70bkd03833e9ebeef035@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430808090930t6e3c70bkd03833e9ebeef035@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97E3E15B-7AF4-4B48-B8C8-B1F0A1D06B1A@phillymgclub.com>

She painted the gas cap PINK???

Larry

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> List I just received this from Anita Orne who owns a 62 Deep Pink  
> Sprite in
> WA. I think you will all enjoy it. Her Sprite was in a box for years  
> before
> she got it.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM
>
> Best wishes & happy Spridgeting,
> Linda
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Sat Aug  9 18:19:25 2008
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:19:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
References: <205cef430808090930t6e3c70bkd03833e9ebeef035@mail.gmail.com>
	<97E3E15B-7AF4-4B48-B8C8-B1F0A1D06B1A@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <016301c8fa7e$bfbc6f80$2f01a8c0@dell1>

Larry,

All the original gas caps up to the Mk-IIA were painted body color from the 
factory.

Biff

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube


> She painted the gas cap PINK???
>
> Larry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 9, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> List I just received this from Anita Orne who owns a 62 Deep Pink
>> Sprite in
>> WA. I think you will all enjoy it. Her Sprite was in a box for years
>> before
>> she got it.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Aug  9 18:50:35 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:50:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50 in UK...
Message-ID: <489DD8EB.17094.25052C4@dmg.bossig.com>

A fellow ham has posted this video of the UK 50th meet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKqU8MpI4Pc&feature=related

Enjot  ;^))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Aug  9 21:19:43 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:19:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "Holy Sprite"...
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEAICKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

site is working.  The "needs" page IS started and will be completed
(WITH updates that I know about) tomorrow.

Hopefully, "The Journey begins" will also get done tomorrow!!

Opinions please.  BUT, remember, it IS just 'started'.  Suggestions
(constructive) welcome.

www.holysprite.org

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Aug  9 21:30:56 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:30:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <016301c8fa7e$bfbc6f80$2f01a8c0@dell1>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEAJCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Linda, etal!!!

I just watched Anita's video; NEAT.

Watch the ensuing videos scroll by THIS popped up!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMsepueA9M&NR=1

I saw (and met) Donna Mae race MANY times!!!	Really COOL !!!

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Aug  9 22:08:56 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 22:08:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
In-Reply-To: <006001c8fa3e$90246600$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEAKCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Wow, why is that not down here in NW Florida.>>

WHAT is wrong with a ROAD TRIP, Jack???	LOL

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Aug  9 23:02:31 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 22:02:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Holy Sprite"...
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEAICKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEAICKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <489E7667.6040101@frontiernet.net>

The Holy Sprite arrived safely in Elko about 6:30 PDT, and is resting 
for the night.   Bob & I both took some pictures and  I will post mine 
later.  Bob will probably do his tomorrow.

Kate


Ed's Shop wrote:
> site is working.  The "needs" page IS started and will be completed
> (WITH updates that I know about) tomorrow.
>
> Hopefully, "The Journey begins" will also get done tomorrow!!
>
> Opinions please.  BUT, remember, it IS just 'started'.  Suggestions
> (constructive) welcome.
>
> www.holysprite.org
>
> Ed
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 05:31:45 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:31:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEAJCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <016301c8fa7e$bfbc6f80$2f01a8c0@dell1>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEAJCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430808100431v47d842fdm475117efb987b5ba@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Ed,
I'm glad you and the list liked Anita's video. I have pics for you but I
haven't had the time to burn a CD I may have time this week I'm up to my
eyeballs in estate stuff of my dear fathers passing it took 6 months to
become executrix and crap has piled up and cost me a ton. Great video of
Donna's Sprite they should take it to a Breast Cancer parade : ) Check out
the site of John's restoration of her car;
http://www.autoarch.com/index.html.
Ed is she still around, or has she passed to the big race track above?
Thanks,
Lin

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> Linda, etal!!!
>
> I just watched Anita's video; NEAT.
>
> Watch the ensuing videos scroll by THIS popped up!!!!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zMsepueA9M&NR=1
>
> I saw (and met) Donna Mae race MANY times!!!    Really COOL !!!
>
> Ed
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Aug 10 06:08:23 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:08:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <016301c8fa7e$bfbc6f80$2f01a8c0@dell1>
References: <205cef430808090930t6e3c70bkd03833e9ebeef035@mail.gmail.com>
	<97E3E15B-7AF4-4B48-B8C8-B1F0A1D06B1A@phillymgclub.com>
	<016301c8fa7e$bfbc6f80$2f01a8c0@dell1>
Message-ID: <09FEB1E2-E926-4B21-B924-F79AD7B68836@phillymgclub.com>

I C said the blind man.

Larry

On Aug 9, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Biff Jones wrote:

> Larry,
>
> All the original gas caps up to the Mk-IIA were painted body color  
> from the
> factory.
>
> Biff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Macy" <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
> To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
>
>
>> She painted the gas cap PINK???
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Linda Grunthaner"  
>> <grunthaner at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> List I just received this from Anita Orne who owns a 62 Deep Pink
>>> Sprite in
>>> WA. I think you will all enjoy it. Her Sprite was in a box for years
>>> before
>>> she got it.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItOQSgdjxuM
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 06:51:58 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 05:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Anita's Pink Sprite on YouTube
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808100431v47d842fdm475117efb987b5ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <872938.44284.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ed is she still around, or has she passed to the big race
> track above?
> Thanks,
> Lin

As the video shows, Donna Mae was at Mid Ohio a few weeks ago with the restored Sprite. I don't know if she has any plans for Road America next month.

Ron

From bighealey at charter.net  Sun Aug 10 07:38:50 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] The list come through again
In-Reply-To: <20080809.101656.2964.0.dwflagg@juno.com>
Message-ID: <9556937DD4BC459E9BBE6A535F2FDB1C@TRACY>

Doug,

I have been corrected.  My daughter said I don't rock.  She has seen me
dance and has concluded I look ridiculous (well we knew that) dancing.


Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas W Flagg [mailto:dwflagg at juno.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:17 AM
To: bighealey at charter.net
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The list come through again

Hey Ed,

You goin' to take that!!!! :)


> Thanks to all who responded from the Oxford Detroit area.  Al Fuller
> came
> through and my daughters parts are now on the UPS truck.
>
>
>
> You guys rock !   Well except Ed.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
>
> President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
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From bighealey at charter.net  Sun Aug 10 07:42:05 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:42:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808090653vd3a8d36hdf02d13db3346fb7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44D7B44AB5084003A3ACA85C5C2FE04B@TRACY>

How come the only tool we see Bob with in the photos is a big hammer?



Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Brad Fornal
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:53 AM
To: Larry Macy
Cc: Spridgets net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics

ED!!! Get yer site up and running, PLEASE!!!
Macy's site hates my browsers......

Thanks,

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 5:31 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> Well here is a few initial Images from the Holy Sprite Journey to
> Redemption. I just set this up for a quickie pic history
>
> These are of Bob assembling the trailer at Buster's
>
> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>
> If you want to add to the gallery simply email pics to
> lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com
>  That will add them direct to the gallery. No muss no fuss.
>
> Ed is hosting the semi-official site so these images are also
> downloadable to be added to his holysprite.org site, or if anyone else
> want copies..
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
> Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a
> question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 10 07:55:31 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:55:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
References: <44D7B44AB5084003A3ACA85C5C2FE04B@TRACY>
Message-ID: <B138006B49C34AB29423674E3A53FD12@midget>

> How come the only tool we see Bob with in the photos is a big hammer?

Excuse me, the correct name for that is "tool for fine adjustments".
The user's manual is fairly short, so I will include it in its entirety...
"Never use force; just get a bigger tool for fine adjustments."

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 08:31:49 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W488317E4E7001CBC43AC03CA740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

OK - I tried using a plug wire straight to #1 from coil. It did not fire. I pulled the plug and turned it over, and there was spark at the gap. I'll try a new coil. But one question - could my engine builder have re-assembled with the cam so far out of time with everything that it won't run? I'm pretty sure it isn't, as when #1 is TDC, both valves for #1 are open, distributor drive shaft slot is at 2:00.

> Something that I have done before in cases like this is to
> run a wire straight from the top of the coil to one of the
> plugs (plug wire is best but any wire will work). This gives
> that plug a spark 4 times as often as normal but at least
> tells you that it is firing. The engine will run (roughly)
> on one plug and allow you to start figuring out what is
> really wrong.
> Bill> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:54:38 -0700> From:
> kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire>
> > I've been fighting with this off and on for months.
> I think I've checked everything. What else should I look
> for?> > Distributor (124 Ignition Dizzy)> > 1.
> Drive spindle is seated good, slot is aligned 2:00 and 8:00
> at TDC.> 2. Distributor is inserted, shaft snugs into
> spindle.> 3. Distributor is turned CW until green light
> just comes on.> 4. Rotor is at 12:00> 5. Cap is
> installed. Wires to 1342.> 6. Gas is on, ignition on.
> Plugs show spark.> 7. pull a plug and slightly wet after
> long try.> > Not a cough. What the flip am I doing
> wrong?> > Joe>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 08:51:32 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:51:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU107-W488317E4E7001CBC43AC03CA740@phx.gbl>
	<889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Ok, THAT is your problem!! When you are at TRUE TDC, both valves should be
CLOSED!!
TDC is when you are at the top of your compression stroke. Get it at TDC,
with the valves closed, then set your dizzy drive shaft, and you should have
better results.

Brad

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Joe Lansing <kidjoevid at yahoo.com> wrote:

> OK - I tried using a plug wire straight to #1 from coil. It did not fire. I
> pulled the plug and turned it over, and there was spark at the gap. I'll try
> a new coil. But one question - could my engine builder have re-assembled
> with the cam so far out of time with everything that it won't run? I'm
> pretty sure it isn't, as when #1 is TDC, both valves for #1 are open,
> distributor drive shaft slot is at 2:00.
>
> > Something that I have done before in cases like this is to
> > run a wire straight from the top of the coil to one of the
> > plugs (plug wire is best but any wire will work). This gives
> > that plug a spark 4 times as often as normal but at least
> > tells you that it is firing. The engine will run (roughly)
> > on one plug and allow you to start figuring out what is
> > really wrong.
> > Bill> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 14:54:38 -0700> From:
> > kidjoevid at yahoo.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire>
> > > I've been fighting with this off and on for months.
> > I think I've checked everything. What else should I look
> > for?> > Distributor (124 Ignition Dizzy)> > 1.
> > Drive spindle is seated good, slot is aligned 2:00 and 8:00
> > at TDC.> 2. Distributor is inserted, shaft snugs into
> > spindle.> 3. Distributor is turned CW until green light
> > just comes on.> 4. Rotor is at 12:00> 5. Cap is
> > installed. Wires to 1342.> 6. Gas is on, ignition on.
> > Plugs show spark.> 7. pull a plug and slightly wet after
> > long try.> > Not a cough. What the flip am I doing
> > wrong?> > Joe>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Aug 10 09:43:21 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:43:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4C45AA9.18E67%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> when #1 is TDC, both valves for #1 are open
Valves should be closed.
When you're at TDC firing position, you should have some play in the rocker
arms. You need fuel, compression and ignition. If the plugs spark and get
wet, you have fuel and ignition. Make sure your valves are closing.
If you're sure you have compression, try loosening the distributor and
moving it while you crank the engine. If you can't get it to at least
sputter, you'll have to sell the car. I'll give you $50, as is.
BZ

From bighealey at charter.net  Sun Aug 10 10:30:37 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:30:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics
In-Reply-To: <B138006B49C34AB29423674E3A53FD12@midget>
Message-ID: <E48757C45BDF4CCD9F5C1215F030BD25@TRACY>

My favorite tool after a big hammer is the saws all.  I just love lots of
sparks and smoke.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:56 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Journey to Redemption pics

> How come the only tool we see Bob with in the photos is a big hammer?

Excuse me, the correct name for that is "tool for fine adjustments".
The user's manual is fairly short, so I will include it in its entirety...
"Never use force; just get a bigger tool for fine adjustments."
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Aug 10 10:31:14 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 09:31:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080810163114.A185D187869@autox.team.net>

I'd really like to see that.
		Crash

I'm pretty sure it isn't, as when #1 is TDC, both valves for #1 are open, 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Aug 10 11:23:42 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:23:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <889693.415.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7639AD21-1327-4F1C-A1B7-2EF7A03AE2AA@comcast.net>

Remember first reply.. dizzy is 180 degrees out... guess what, dizzy  
is 180 degrees out..

Lester


On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Joe Lansing wrote:

> OK - I tried using a plug wire straight to #1 from coil. It did not  
> fire. I pulled the plug and turned it over, and there was spark at  
> the gap. I'll try a new coil. But one question - could my engine  
> builder have re-assembled with the cam so far out of time with  
> everything that it won't run? I'm pretty sure it isn't, as when #1  
> is TDC, both valves for #1 are open, distributor drive shaft slot is  
> at 2:00.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 12:06:38 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:06:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
In-Reply-To: <7639AD21-1327-4F1C-A1B7-2EF7A03AE2AA@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <937113.61064.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Switch plugs 1 and 4, 2 and 3 to tell quickly.


--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
> To: kidjoevid at yahoo.com, "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:23 PM
> Remember first reply.. dizzy is 180 degrees out... guess
> what, dizzy  
> is 180 degrees out..
> 
> Lester
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2008, at 9:31 AM, Joe Lansing wrote:
> 
> > OK - I tried using a plug wire straight to #1 from
> coil. It did not  
> > fire. I pulled the plug and turned it over, and there
> was spark at  
> > the gap. I'll try a new coil. But one question -
> could my engine  
> > builder have re-assembled with the cam so far out of
> time with  
> > everything that it won't run? I'm pretty sure
> it isn't, as when #1  
> > is TDC, both valves for #1 are open, distributor drive
> shaft slot is  
> > at 2:00.
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug 10 12:37:00 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:37:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.
References: <937113.61064.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B24E8374BC134211B9E5491CE7A60567@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <kidjoevid at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; 
"Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Can't get new engine to fire cont.


Switch plugs 1 and 4, 2 and 3 to tell quickly.


===========================
Of course, if you switch those plugs, be sure to switch the corresponding 
plug wires with them. ;-))

Yeah, yeah, I know, but I just couldn't resist.

LAD

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Aug 10 12:54:18 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:54:18 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV9172E827C5DE54B13A5A9C8760@phx.gbl>

Get back in touch with Jeff at Advance Distributors for educated advice.

Your's is an emission motor of the year wherein manifold vacuum advance was maxed at idle to ensure cleaner emissions.

As the accelerator was applied, vacuum was
"retarded" as mechanical centrifugal timing
advanced in accordance with rpm.

Get out your Haynes, Bentley or whatever manual you are using to determine whether your vacuum advance takeoff is
at the carb or intake manifold. You don't
want to get this wrong.

OTOH, if Jeff at Advanced Distributors may have re-curved your distributor to run without the vacuum retard or advance as the case may be and follow his advice
accordingly.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Marc
Sent: Monday, August 4, 2008 1:19 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem

I have a problem that is beyond my meager abilities to solve. My '73 
Midget with 1275 still has a few issues it seems. The first is pinking I 
just can't seem to solve. It generally occurs (or is only noticeable) 
under extremely light throttle - say cruising a flat road in 4th around 
40 mph. The distributor was just rebuilt and recurved by Jeff at advance 
distributors. Jeff's instructions were to set timing at 12 - 14 degrees 
BTDC @ idle without vac. (Very tough to see timing scale!!!) I started 
at 12 BTDC, and been retarding and retarding. Just can't get rid of it. 
(I've been running 89 octane gas ). It's down to where it runs like 
s**t... My B series hasn't been as persnickety as this...

Anyway, last night I'm dinking around with it some more, then go to hook 
the vacuum line back up. As soon as I do, I hear the advance diaphragm 
begin vibrating rapidly. I disconnected it, and hooked up a vac gauge, 
and at idle the needle is oscillating between 10 & 15 inches of vacuum. 
I think that was the range, I could be mistaken, however it definitely 
was a variation of 5 inches on the gauge. So, I pull the valve cover and 
recheck all the lash adjustments. found 2 that  were a smidgen loose, 
but not terribly. However, that didn't affect the vacuum at all. Is this 
a potential valve problem?

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From breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 13:01:25 2008
From: breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com (Bree Anna)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-
Message-ID: <687582.51513.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello All:

I have a question that I hope someone on here can help me with. I am moving to Medford, Oregon in 3 weeks and I was wondering if there is anyone out there who knows the best route to take. I live in Fort Worth, Tx. I have been told to go up thru Denver and cut over, and I have been told to go West thru mexico, arizona, etc. If you have a better route please email me off list.

Thanks in Advance!!!!!

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Sun Aug 10 15:10:31 2008
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:10:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight dipping switch
Message-ID: <c26.3f293465.35d0b347@aol.com>

My dipping switch has fallen off....
OK after having fun with that one; The small metal cap and spring were laying 
on the floor in the Bugeye.  I tried pushing it back, but it just pops off 
again.  There is a small hole in it.  When I probed the floor unit, there is no 
way a machine screw or bolt could go in.  I checked the part manuals, but they 
don't show much.
Any thoughts?
Rudy in NC



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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 15:58:08 2008
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:58:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine tried to run;dizzy clamp
Message-ID: <366235.93593.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for all the advice on static timing - I got my new engine to run about 3 seconds before the dizzy slipped about 15 degrees - the clamp was too loose. I tried it with the clamp even tighter but it almost squeezes the distributor out - away from the spindle. I'm using a 123Ignition distributor. The clamp is a stock clamp - I think - kinda cheesy stamped metal...is there an aftermarket clamp or trick I can use to hold that puppy tight? Is something binding up where the distributor is trying to rotate ina pretty dang snug clamp?

Joe

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 16:03:12 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:03:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine tried to run;dizzy clamp
In-Reply-To: <366235.93593.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <366235.93593.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808101503x7869deah2607b15080106a95@mail.gmail.com>

remove the clamp, and make sure it is flat and true. If it is bowed or bent,
it will not hold tightly.
What was the issue with it not starting??

Brad

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joe Lansing <kidjoevid at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all the advice on static timing - I got my new engine to run
> about 3 seconds before the dizzy slipped about 15 degrees - the clamp was
> too loose. I tried it with the clamp even tighter but it almost squeezes the
> distributor out - away from the spindle. I'm using a 123Ignition
> distributor. The clamp is a stock clamp - I think - kinda cheesy stamped
> metal...is there an aftermarket clamp or trick I can use to hold that puppy
> tight? Is something binding up where the distributor is trying to rotate ina
> pretty dang snug clamp?
>
> Joe
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From tinydog at snet.net  Sun Aug 10 16:03:26 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:03:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight dipping switch
In-Reply-To: <c26.3f293465.35d0b347@aol.com>
Message-ID: <081020082203.16724.489F65AD000EBED10000415422230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

ribit, I mean rivet.
-------------- Original message from CAWS52803 at aol.com: -------------- 


> My dipping switch has fallen off.... 
> OK after having fun with that one; The small metal cap and spring were laying 
> on the floor in the Bugeye. I tried pushing it back, but it just pops off 
> again. There is a small hole in it. When I probed the floor unit, there is no 
> way a machine screw or bolt could go in. I checked the part manuals, but they 
> don't show much. 
> Any thoughts? 
> Rudy in NC 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 10 16:19:21 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:19:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard top mounting
Message-ID: <1817860821.20080810151921@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  
        anyone have any idea as to the size of the screws that hold
the  front clips onto a hard top?... 8/32s fit into the holes, but a
little sloppy, .. i haven't tried 10/32s (non on hand), but can get
some tomorrow.. or are they some weird british size that has a "B" in
it?..

also.. macgregor is completely unresponsive to inquiries. any
suggestions on obtaining the rear rubber seal  (this is a factory '66
top with the channel around the back to hold in the rubber.
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "Oh, stop talking about the Dreyfus case. Don't you like the colour of my eyes?" asked Esther hazily.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Aug 10 17:08:42 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:08:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard top mounting
In-Reply-To: <1817860821.20080810151921@pacifier.com>
References: <1817860821.20080810151921@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <6BBC7A7C-4B1B-481F-B85E-9521D7F3041D@comcast.net>

In my experience, don't email McGregor, call.  Then keep calling until  
they pick up.  After that it's all golden..

Lester

On Aug 10, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>
>        anyone have any idea as to the size of the screws that hold
> the  front clips onto a hard top?... 8/32s fit into the holes, but a
> little sloppy, .. i haven't tried 10/32s (non on hand), but can get
> some tomorrow.. or are they some weird british size that has a "B" in
> it?..
>
> also.. macgregor is completely unresponsive to inquiries. any
> suggestions on obtaining the rear rubber seal  (this is a factory '66
> top with the channel around the back to hold in the rubber.
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 17:18:43 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:18:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

The Holy Sprite is on its way to Toms River! Carolyn and I will pull our leg
tomorrow into Tuesday.

I talked with Frank today and there is still going to be a need for raising
some money for necessary parts, paint, etc. Of course, cash donations are
very welcome and should be sent directly to Frank. In talking we thought
maybe some special T-shirts might be used as a fund raiser.  To that end, I
put up a temporary internet page and Frank's Dad, Larry, worked out a shirt
design.  Take a look at the page at:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

Please cross post this information where allowed....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 10 17:43:22 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:43:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1479620928.20080810164322@pacifier.com>

Hello Jim,

     let us know when the Pay-Pal thing is set up.. i don't want the
     shirt, but i DO want to donate $$$ for gas for the haulers and/or
     PARTS... ..



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs 

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Aug 10 17:43:43 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:43:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Trailer!
References: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03b701c8fb42$ed2509e0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    Bud,

    If you and I and Kevin make it through PA with THAT THING on THAT TRAILER
without getting stopped by an over-eager Trooper, then Father Jack has real
clout!!  :^)

    Might even have to attend mass next week - was that thunder???

    Later, good luck to those preceding us.

                                                                             
           CB

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 17:50:40 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:50:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-
In-Reply-To: <687582.51513.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <468228.83853.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Bree,
 
I asked my son who has driven from Fort Worth a bunch of times going to
Oregon. It is shorter going through NM,AZ,Ca to Medford, Oregon. The AZ part
could be hot if your only doing day driving. But when you hit the AZ/CA
boarder you can always cool off in the Colorado River. My son thought there is
only 50-100 miles difference. He knew for sure there was a 3 hour difference
in driving time. He also said he thought the roads were better on this
route. 
 
Hope this helps,
 
Vigil

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Bree Anna <breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bree Anna <breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 12:01 PM

Hello All:

I have a question that I hope someone on here can help me with. I am moving
to
Medford, Oregon in 3 weeks and I was wondering if there is anyone out there
who
knows the best route to take. I live in Fort Worth, Tx. I have been told to
go
up thru Denver and cut over, and I have been told to go West thru mexico,
arizona, etc. If you have a better route please email me off list.

Thanks in Advance!!!!!
You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Aug 10 18:25:24 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:25:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-
In-Reply-To: <468228.83853.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4C4D504.18E8F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> It is shorter going through NM,AZ,Ca to Medford, Oregon.
Ditto, and great fireworks in New Mexico.  The Southern route is flatter
too.  I don't know what you're driving, but going up mountains is expensive
these days. We've made that drive four times this year, so far.
BZ 

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 19:26:19 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:26:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEECFCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Jim, the ORIGINAL dollars setup was for dollars (checks) to be sent to me
(RIGHT, Frank??).

It may be found in the Archives if you doubt<G>!!

I have YET to receive even "A" dollar!!!

Matter of fact, I was going to RE-announce this evening in a couple hours
BUT seems moving up MY schedule is required<G>!!

SO, ALL of you:

Please send your (personal in FINE) check & made out TO:
Just Brits
5624 South Washington
Hinsdale, IL	60521-4915

In/on the 'MEMO:' line please put "Holy Sprite Fund" (not that I need it
because I do know who owes me money<G>)!!

All will be recorded in a database and if later desired will be added as a
web page to the 'final story' CD the Good Father WILL receive after all is
said and done (ala Buster & Pam's CD of THAT event).  BTW, if you have NOT
seen Buster & Pam's story please visit:  www.bustercluster2006.org !!

Frank and I HAVE discussed (and I WILL do) announcing the 'need' on other
Lists ('Fathers' take care of everybody<G>) in the LBC 'nation'!!
I already have a draftee to do so to TRs and have one in mind for Big
Healeys and another for MGs!!

The "Needs" page IS complete (but not finished) at:
http://www.holysprite.org/needs.html
It IS made up from Frank's 'want' List and HIS verbage.

Another thing, since Buster seems to not be taking care of the 'prose' end,
does anybody have Frank's ORIGINAL post (and 2nd & 3rd) about this
endevour they could send me??

Thanks ALL!!!!!

Ed

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 10 18:49:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:49:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEECFCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <61984E77470E46C38577E4E35BB1D0E1@midget>

> Another thing, since Buster seems to not be taking care of the 'prose' 
> end,
> does anybody have Frank's ORIGINAL post (and 2nd & 3rd) about this
> endevour they could send me??

Ed,
You DO know that every  one of these messages has a link on it that says
http://www.team.net/archive
RIGHT? <VBG> 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Aug 10 19:05:59 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:05:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] pinking problem
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV9172E827C5DE54B13A5A9C8760@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV9172E827C5DE54B13A5A9C8760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <EC6445CDCAC748018839CA3768D9D4E8@Home>

> Your's is an emission motor of the year wherein manifold vacuum advance 
> was maxed at idle to ensure cleaner emissions.

Any thoughts on changes to the distributor or carb needles for an engine 
that has been detoxed?

Michael Rowe
'71 engine, mix&match carbs (same needles & jets), mix&match distributor
Long Island, NY 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 19:15:23 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:15:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEECFCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEECFCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808101815r24aff53eu72e5fd3265fa553b@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Frank and I discussed this today on the phone. Thanks to Ed for volunteering
to broker the project, but it is far easier for all concerned to eliminate
the middle man and send donations (parts, funds, or in kind) directly to
Frank. I will put the PayPal info in place on the page shortly. Also, since
I'm the one assembling the scrapbook for the good Father, please send
pictures and a few paragraphs describing your participation directly to me.
<bmwwxman at gmail.com> Again....  no need for a middle man.....

Lets not over-manage this thing. Please.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> Jim, the ORIGINAL dollars setup was for dollars (checks) to be sent to me
> (RIGHT, Frank??).
>
> It may be found in the Archives if you doubt<G>!!
>
> I have YET to receive even "A" dollar!!!
>
> Matter of fact, I was going to RE-announce this evening in a couple hours
> BUT seems moving up MY schedule is required<G>!!
>
> SO, ALL of you:
>
> Please send your (personal in FINE) check & made out TO:
> Just Brits
> 5624 South Washington
> Hinsdale, IL    60521-4915
>
> In/on the 'MEMO:' line please put "Holy Sprite Fund" (not that I need it
> because I do know who owes me money<G>)!!
>
> All will be recorded in a database and if later desired will be added as a
> web page to the 'final story' CD the Good Father WILL receive after all is
> said and done (ala Buster & Pam's CD of THAT event).  BTW, if you have NOT
> seen Buster & Pam's story please visit:  www.bustercluster2006.org !!
>
> Frank and I HAVE discussed (and I WILL do) announcing the 'need' on other
> Lists ('Fathers' take care of everybody<G>) in the LBC 'nation'!!
> I already have a draftee to do so to TRs and have one in mind for Big
> Healeys and another for MGs!!
>
> The "Needs" page IS complete (but not finished) at:
> http://www.holysprite.org/needs.html
> It IS made up from Frank's 'want' List and HIS verbage.
>
> Another thing, since Buster seems to not be taking care of the 'prose' end,
> does anybody have Frank's ORIGINAL post (and 2nd & 3rd) about this
> endevour they could send me??
>
> Thanks ALL!!!!!
>
> Ed
>
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 20:46:56 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:46:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101815r24aff53eu72e5fd3265fa553b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKECMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Lets not over-manage this thing. Please.>>

Then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU???

It WAS simple BEFORE you "took over".

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 19:49:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:49:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PayPal now available - Holy Sprite
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808101849k6989a2e3jd236201aa7f962ce@mail.gmail.com>

All,

PayPal info is now on the .pdf file if you want to donate for the Holy
Sprite. Simply it goes straight to Frank.  Use Spritenut at comcast.net
In 16 hours we pick up the Holy Sprite....   ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 19:50:47 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKECMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <43840a7e0808101815r24aff53eu72e5fd3265fa553b@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKECMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>

But a lot simpler before you horned in....

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

>  *<<*Lets not over-manage this thing. Please.*>>*
> **
> *Then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU???*
> **
> *It WAS simple BEFORE you "took over".*
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 21:01:58 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:01:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<But a lot simpler before you horned in....>>

I was in on LONG before you, idiot!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 21:08:32 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:08:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I can take paypal already too.>>

Perhaps I am behind news announcements from PayPal, so WHEN did they start
giving out FREE Accounts??  My 'plan' WAS exactly that (AND my point):	FREE

<<No bank account changes, S I M P L E !>>

WHAT 'bank account "changes" '??

www.holysprite.org has changed.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Aug 10 20:09:46 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:09:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <004801c8fb57$54bda3a0$c319f304@spider>

Gentlemen; please!
================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Ed's Shop
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:02 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: Yahoo Spridget list; Spridget Group; Michael Osipik; bugeye
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information

<<But a lot simpler before you horned in....>>

I was in on LONG before you, idiot!
_______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 21:12:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:12:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <61984E77470E46C38577E4E35BB1D0E1@midget>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<You DO know that every  one of these messages has a link on it that says
http://www.team.net/archive>>

Just LESS time consuming for ME, David.  Especially after a BUNCH of 1000%
WASTED hours doing the 'needs' page today!!

www.holysprite.org HAS been 'updated'.

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Aug 10 20:13:36 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:13:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
References: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<004801c8fb57$54bda3a0$c319f304@spider>
Message-ID: <044e01c8fb57$dd5aefb0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    "Gentlemen" ???

    Where you been???

                                                                             
       CB

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 20:17:31 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:17:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <044e01c8fb57$dd5aefb0$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <43840a7e0808101850x5d54b389pb1e584454552b39e@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<004801c8fb57$54bda3a0$c319f304@spider>
	<044e01c8fb57$dd5aefb0$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808101917x6241e12dl8b3b166866d1b4d9@mail.gmail.com>

I got this one:
Send checks to Ed.
PayPal convenience will cost 3% but funds can be sent thru Jim.
Now, everyone get back to being nice.
It is kinda nice to see people fussing about helping someone do something nice.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 10 21:16:44 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:16:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hard top mounting
In-Reply-To: <1817860821.20080810151921@pacifier.com>
References: <1817860821.20080810151921@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W4166D0C8CA27ED53D4AB4DCA710@phx.gbl>

Bill
Those are common 10-32 x 3/8 long
Bill

> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:19:21 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Hard top mounting
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>
>         anyone have any idea as to the size of the screws that hold
> the  front clips onto a hard top?... 8/32s fit into the holes, but a
> little sloppy, .. i haven't tried 10/32s (non on hand), but can get
> some tomorrow.. or are they some weird british size that has a "B" in
> it?..
>
> also.. macgregor is completely unresponsive to inquiries. any
> suggestions on obtaining the rear rubber seal  (this is a factory '66
> top with the channel around the back to hold in the rubber.
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>       * "Oh, stop talking about the Dreyfus case. Don't you like the colour
of my eyes?" asked Esther hazily.
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 10 22:28:12 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:28:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] New engine tried to run;dizzy clamp
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808101503x7869deah2607b15080106a95@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEDJCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<remove the clamp, and make sure it is flat and true. If it is bowed or
bent,it will not hold tightly.>>

Agreed, Brad.  Joe, you 'should' also open the 'gap' that the nut & bolt
uses to 'clamp'.  You may very well find the bolt BENT.  Just replace it.
Now, you will be working with a GOOD, functioning part.

<<What was the issue with it not starting??>>

We ALL want to know what you DID figure out????

Ed

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 10 22:40:26 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:40:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <61984E77470E46C38577E4E35BB1D0E1@midget>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808102140m4293e15odfd188374e30417f@mail.gmail.com>

For Pete's sake, Ed. Since when does it make more sense write a check to you
so you can write a check to Frank?

Everyone just send your donations straight to Frank. PayPal accounts have
been free for years. If Ed has an overwhelming urge to buy a domain name and
waste hours on it that's up to him but it doesn't mean the rest of us have
to use it when direct contact to Frank is easily available and free.

Who cares who did what first. Why should we be silly when we can be smart.

Get a life, Ed.

Jim

On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<You DO know that every  one of these messages has a link on it that says
> http://www.team.net/archive>>
>
> Just LESS time consuming for ME, David.  Especially after a BUNCH of 1000%
> WASTED hours doing the 'needs' page today!!
>
> www.holysprite.org HAS been 'updated'.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 10 22:44:39 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEDCCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <38186.94803.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think we should name the next project "Ayn Rand". 

Shrug,
Ron

--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> Perhaps I am behind news announcements from PayPal, so WHEN
> did they start
> giving out FREE Accounts??  My 'plan' WAS exactly
> that (AND my point):	FREE
> 
> <<No bank account changes, S I M P L E !>>
> 
> WHAT 'bank account "changes" '??
> 
> www.holysprite.org has changed.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Aug 10 23:26:34 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:26:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Day 1-2
Message-ID: <985DD6B3-1CD1-4EBC-9C60-E2130AB73DA5@mac.com>

Holy Sprite



I have only been sitting under this tree in Glens yard for a short
time but heard a rummer that I was about to set off on another
adventure.



Some guy named Bob is going from Fallbrook to this guy Buster in
Anaheim to pick up a trailer to take me on a journey.



Bob has arrived and with Glen they are putting the last of the
plywood on the trailer.  Here I go - - uuuppps - - careful - - aaahh
- I am on board and ready to leave in the morning.



We are away on a bright sunny day.  After about 100 miles Bob stops
to see if I am still tied down nicely, which I am.  But the license
plate on the trailer is about to fall off.  He gets that fixed.  Then
has a nice talk with a California Highway Patrolman who thinks that
all the folks that are going to get me across country have to be
really great people.  He also warns us of a bad section of road
coming up which proves to be very helpful.  The rest of the day is
spent watching the changing scenery go by till we arrive at Kates.
I get to sleep while Bob enjoys a BBQ dinner and visiting with Kate
and friends.



Day Two.



We are away early (5:45 a.m.), stop for gas, check the tie downs then
hit the road.  We have only gone about 30 miles when one of the tie
downs for the tires on the trailer tongue decides it has done enough
work and leaves.  I try to warn Bob but not having all my parts makes
communicating difficult.  So one of the tires decides to take a
scenic side trip.  Bob sees this and get us stopped.  Fortunately
there were no other cars or trucks within miles of us and the tire
missed me, the trailer and the tow vehicle, so no damage done.  But
Bob has to take a hike in the cool  crisp mid 50s morning air.
Being a SoCa guy he is in shorts Tee shirt and sandals.  I see his
knees shaking but so is his jaw - - hummm.  Shortly he returns with
the wayward tire and has some extra rope to use as a tie down.  Ten
miles up the road is a small town with a Flying J.  With some new tie
downs and breakfast in Bob things are looking better.



Over the last mountains in NV and into Utah.  As we pass the
Bonneville Salt Flats I am sure that I can heard Donald and Geoff
talking and the sounds of my relatives setting records - what a
thrill.  We pass through some of Utahs red rock country with
enormous thunder clouds in the distance.  Around a corner and I get a
bath, boy that felt good after the heat we have been going through.
With the Rocky Mountains in sight the day ends in Grand Junction.  I
meet a new friend in the morning to take me the next step of the way.



Bob Kitterer - recorder.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Aug 10 23:26:40 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:26:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Trailer info - hand off folks
Message-ID: <B94D6DB4-2979-4C22-9AD0-8DDE18F63B39@mac.com>

Hi folks,

After two days with the Holy Sprite and Trailer thought I would pass  
on some information - - - my perspective.

The trailer is very close if not at it's weight limit.  It may be  
rated a bit higher but most of the weight is near the edges of the  
frame rather than evenly distributed so the frame is being stressed  
from the edges.

With Glens help we moved the loose parts around to balance the  
trailer and put some weight on the tongue.  Right now it tows very  
nicely but as Glen and I found out moving some weight around,  
particularly to the rear, and the trailer will start to wag at  
relatively low speeds.

My understanding is that some parts are coming off and others being  
added.  I strongly recommend doing a short test run before hitting  
the open road to be sure of the trailer balance and handling.

I have been driving at 55 - 60 mph (the tires are rated for 55 mph)  
using a Honda CRV an hardly know that the trailer and car are behind  
me.  I do slow down for rough roads.  I get nervous that a tie down  
line may give way with the extra stress.  Since the brake drums and  
disk so close to the edge of the trailer it would not take much  
movement to become a serious problem.

HAND OFF ITEMS

When you pick up the car be sure that you get the documentation  
package - -  trailer registration and documentation for the car.   
Also Buster donated a 1 7/8 ball which is in the Sprite just in case  
there is a need and I am going to toss in a few extra tie downs as  
back up.

Almost head back home.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Aug 10 23:31:50 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:31:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Photos
Message-ID: <2C0DDF93-0BE8-4525-8831-4DEFF0FE1B44@mac.com>

I have a number of pictures from the first two days of the trip - - -  
where do I send them for the list to see????

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 05:29:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:29:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Holy Sprite Information
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0808110051r2ecfb74eicc0cbc8c6e0dff54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0808110051r2ecfb74eicc0cbc8c6e0dff54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808110429v540ff335v946597632c56a5e7@mail.gmail.com>

Whooops!!  Yes, I meant the 11th...  We are just now leaving the homestead
to meet Mark on I-70 this afternoon!

Cheers!!
Jim...

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Jethro (JFoster) <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>wrote:

>   Just a quick note Jim:
> "hand off to Mark Haynes on Monday Aug 12th" ... Monday is August *11*th.
>
> On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com<bmwwxman%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > Spridgeteers,
> >
> > The Holy Sprite is on its way to Toms River! Carolyn and I will pull our
> > leg
> > tomorrow into Tuesday.
> >
> > I talked with Frank today and there is still going to be a need for
> raising
> > some money for necessary parts, paint, etc. Of course, cash donations are
> > very welcome and should be sent directly to Frank. In talking we thought
> > maybe some special T-shirts might be used as a fund raiser. To that end,
> I
> > put up a temporary internet page and Frank's Dad, Larry, worked out a
> shirt
> > design. Take a look at the page at:
> >
> > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html<http://www.starrtech.net/%7Ejimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html>
> >
> > Please cross post this information where allowed....
> > --
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 05:35:45 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 06:35:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Photos
In-Reply-To: <2C0DDF93-0BE8-4525-8831-4DEFF0FE1B44@mac.com>
References: <2C0DDF93-0BE8-4525-8831-4DEFF0FE1B44@mac.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808110435m3b39ffb1je5c35f31320b1edf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Bob,

You can post them to the net directly. Just send them to <
lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com> and they will automatically go online without being
touched by human hands! Thanks to Larry Macy for the site...

You can view them at:  http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

> I have a number of pictures from the first two days of the trip - - -
> where do I send them for the list to see????
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 11 08:24:36 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:24:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] More Trailer Holy Sprite
Message-ID: <E71A3B93-E887-4649-8871-904E3A38664C@mac.com>

Forgot to mention that the car is not bolted to the trailer as Frank  
suggested because the 1500 engine extends several inches below the  
frame.  So the front of the car is on 4X4's to keep the pan clear - -  
hence tie downs.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 11 08:50:22 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:50:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information - Get the word out!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808101618m22362142yb29b134b1573766b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <456959.58995.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey Spridgeteers - I just forwarded this link to both of my clubs for
(hopefully) inclusion in each newsletter.  I think there are probably a bunch
of us in various clubs across the country (and around the globe?) so why not
send the link to all of them?  I sent the link to the Long Island MG Club and
to my chapter president fo the Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club.  Let's get
the word out and bury Frank in T-Shirt orders.  I'm planning to place an order
with some of my hard-earned PayPal money (the hard-earned part is a joke) this
week myself.
 
Just a thought - Does anybody have any connections to TV stations?  Sounds
like a great filler / human interst story if ther ever was one.  I have met a
couple of
the guys at Classic Motorsports Magazine and sent the link to them too. 
 
 - David Booker
'71 OEW Midget
Long Island


--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
To: "Spridget Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Michael
Osipik" <mikeosipik at earthlink.net>
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 6:18 PM

Spridgeteers,

The Holy Sprite is on its way to Toms River! Carolyn and I will pull our leg
tomorrow into Tuesday.

I talked with Frank today and there is still going to be a need for raising
some money for necessary parts, paint, etc. Of course, cash donations are
very welcome and should be sent directly to Frank. In talking we thought
maybe some special T-shirts might be used as a fund raiser.  To that end, I
put up a temporary internet page and Frank's Dad, Larry, worked out a shirt
design.  Take a look at the page at:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

Please cross post this information where allowed....
--
Cheers!!
Jim
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Aug 11 08:57:43 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:57:43 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information - Get the word out!
In-Reply-To: <456959.58995.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <98E264CD21A840C5AE0188C6E7F1CBDE@GuyLaptop>

Maybe Practical Classics magazine would be interested as a follow up to the
Buster Cluster item they ran?

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: 11 August 2008 15:50
To: Spridget Group; Yahoo Spridget list; bugeye; Michael Osipik; Jim
Johnson
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information - Get the word out!


Hey Spridgeteers - I just forwarded this link to both of my clubs for
(hopefully) inclusion in each newsletter.  I think there are probably a
bunch
of us in various clubs across the country (and around the globe?) so why not
send the link to all of them?  I sent the link to the Long Island MG Club
and
to my chapter president fo the Austin Healey Sports & Touring Club.  Let's
get
the word out and bury Frank in T-Shirt orders.  I'm planning to place an
order
with some of my hard-earned PayPal money (the hard-earned part is a joke)
this
week myself.

Just a thought - Does anybody have any connections to TV stations?  Sounds
like a great filler / human interst story if ther ever was one.  I have met
a
couple of
the guys at Classic Motorsports Magazine and sent the link to them too.

 - David Booker
'71 OEW Midget
Long Island


--- On Sun, 8/10/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Information
To: "Spridget Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Michael
Osipik" <mikeosipik at earthlink.net>
Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 6:18 PM

Spridgeteers,

The Holy Sprite is on its way to Toms River! Carolyn and I will pull our leg
tomorrow into Tuesday.

I talked with Frank today and there is still going to be a need for raising
some money for necessary parts, paint, etc. Of course, cash donations are
very welcome and should be sent directly to Frank. In talking we thought
maybe some special T-shirts might be used as a fund raiser.  To that end, I
put up a temporary internet page and Frank's Dad, Larry, worked out a shirt
design.  Take a look at the page at:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

Please cross post this information where allowed....
--
Cheers!!
Jim
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Aug 11 09:29:58 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:29:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite departure
Message-ID: <9A307496745447E9ABBCA347A156016F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Afterthoughts,

It was a pleasure having Bob Kitterer visit.  He made excellent time up from
LA and arrived in Davis just after noon on Friday.  We were able to finish
assembling the trailer and load the Sprite before sundown and then went off to
a much deserved dinner.  Settled in for the evening and we watched the Olympic
opening ceremonies together until near midnight.  Bob was up and off early
Saturday morning and I got a shot of his rig turning the first corner on its
long journey (yes, I'll post it to Ed, Larry and whomever else later).

I agree with Bob that the trailer is at its weight limit and it will benefit
GREATLY from having the engine/trans removed ASAP.  If you ever considered
getting a trailer like this one for a fully built Sprite, reconsider.

I'd like to personally thank Bob for the huge contribution of his time and
money on this crucial long first leg.

Glen Byrns


(Yes, the Morris pickup frame was set on jackstands in place of the Holy
Spirite about 1/2 hour after Bob pulled away)

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 11 09:39:02 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:39:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Photos leg one
Message-ID: <019DC100-F54B-4A60-BA00-0C243FAE0699@mac.com>

List,

I have post some photos to Larry's site.  As of the moment that I am  
writing this there are more than a few duplicates as a result of the  
odd way the hotel WIFI behaves - - long story that you do not want to  
hear.

As soon as Mark arrives to take over I will be heading home.

Thanks for ever ones help.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From davegran at ticon.net  Mon Aug 11 14:27:38 2008
From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:27:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn
Message-ID: <48A0A0BA.BCB@ticon.net>

Somebody wrote:
> <<But a lot simpler before you horned in....>>
> 
> I was in on LONG before you, idiot!

And then somebody else wrote:
> Who cares who did what first. Why should we be silly when we can be smart.
> 
> Get a life, XXX.

GET A GRIP! TAKE A BREATH! FOCUS!

That's better. I hope the priest never hears of this because it's
turning into the UNHOLY SPRITE!

Whoever writes this up should do it as, "An Anonymous Group of Sports
Car Enthusiasts Fulfill a Deserving Man's Wish" and then never mention
any names except the priest's. That would solve a lot of issues.

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA (GMT -6:00) Central Time

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Aug 11 14:32:46 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:32:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The Trouble with Google Maps
Message-ID: <25EFF7B9-FC33-409E-A73B-BAD4BA6537B7@phillymgclub.com>

Http://xkcd.com/461/

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug 11 14:51:55 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:51:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The Trouble with Google Maps
References: <25EFF7B9-FC33-409E-A73B-BAD4BA6537B7@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <6FB9AB241FA24B1BB866C0B4004E0123@NilesAD.von.gov>

Unfortunately, Google recently revised their system. You used to be able to 
ask for directions from NYC to London and receive detailed directions to a 
particular dock, followed by the instruction to swim x miles to a similar 
dock in England, followed by intricate directions to some arcane location in 
London ;-)
Now they simply tell you that they could not find driving directions for 
you. Alas. 

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Aug 11 15:07:16 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:07:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn
References: <48A0A0BA.BCB@ticon.net>
Message-ID: <0E1DE3EECF6A4DF78807D5A407B2F59B@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Second.

Glen

> Whoever writes this up should do it as, "An Anonymous Group of Sports
> Car Enthusiasts Fulfill a Deserving Man's Wish" and then never mention
> any names except the priest's. That would solve a lot of issues.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Grandeffo

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Aug 11 16:49:23 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:49:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn
In-Reply-To: <48A0A0BA.BCB@ticon.net>
Message-ID: <002a01c8fc04$7fe8efa0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Dave,
Excellent suggestion.  I know I don't feel the need for any recognition.
All I want out of this is to hear good reports of the good Padre's
enjoyment of the finished product.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dave Grandeffo
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:28 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn

Somebody wrote:
> <<But a lot simpler before you horned in....>>
> 
> I was in on LONG before you, idiot!

And then somebody else wrote:
> Who cares who did what first. Why should we be silly when we can be
smart.
> 
> Get a life, XXX.

GET A GRIP! TAKE A BREATH! FOCUS!

That's better. I hope the priest never hears of this because it's
turning into the UNHOLY SPRITE!

Whoever writes this up should do it as, "An Anonymous Group of Sports
Car Enthusiasts Fulfill a Deserving Man's Wish" and then never mention
any names except the priest's. That would solve a lot of issues.

-- 
Dave Grandeffo
www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
Southern Wisconsin
USA (GMT -6:00) Central Time

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 11 21:46:54 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:46:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] one of youse guys needs this guy
Message-ID: <20080812034639.02B6A187646@autox.team.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaS8KrluBg

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon Aug 11 21:58:23 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:58:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] one of youse guys needs this guy
In-Reply-To: <20080812034639.02B6A187646@autox.team.net>
References: <20080812034639.02B6A187646@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <157eca33c8aa4cdc8a499aca.20080811205823.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

If I was close enough I would take him.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 11 21:59:18 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:59:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] one of youse guys needs this guy
In-Reply-To: <20080812034639.02B6A187646@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <566156.41841.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
No Thanks - The spridgets list is enough entertainment for me.
No over head like having to feed them any food.........LOL
 
Just fuel the fire now and then........And the entertainment begins.
 
Vigil

--- On Mon, 8/11/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

From: Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] one of youse guys needs this guy
To: team-thicko at autox.team.net, "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 8:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaS8KrluBg
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 22:20:58 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:20:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn
In-Reply-To: <002a01c8fc04$7fe8efa0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <48A0A0BA.BCB@ticon.net>
	<002a01c8fc04$7fe8efa0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808112120p69f0779fi327ec181d02b5b71@mail.gmail.com>

Dare I say it...?     AMEN.   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim -

P.S. Holy Sprite is now in Colby, KS and will be in Kansas City by Tuesday
evening where it will visit the Kansas City Austin Healey Club meeting and
tech session Tuesday evening  ;-)



On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Dave,
> Excellent suggestion.  I know I don't feel the need for any recognition.
> All I want out of this is to hear good reports of the good Padre's
> enjoyment of the finished product.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz <spridgets-bounces%2Babcoz>=hky.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Dave Grandeffo
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:28 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Takes a Turn
>
> Somebody wrote:
> > <<But a lot simpler before you horned in....>>
> >
> > I was in on LONG before you, idiot!
>
> And then somebody else wrote:
> > Who cares who did what first. Why should we be silly when we can be
> smart.
> >
> > Get a life, XXX.
>
> GET A GRIP! TAKE A BREATH! FOCUS!
>
> That's better. I hope the priest never hears of this because it's
> turning into the UNHOLY SPRITE!
>
> Whoever writes this up should do it as, "An Anonymous Group of Sports
> Car Enthusiasts Fulfill a Deserving Man's Wish" and then never mention
> any names except the priest's. That would solve a lot of issues.
>
> --
> Dave Grandeffo
> www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com
> Southern Wisconsin
> USA (GMT -6:00) Central Time
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 22:45:10 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:45:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Travel Log....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808112145y2e9bd93cm684205f8553736bc@mail.gmail.com>

A long day.  We left Dodge City at 7:00 am and were in Denver in plenty of
time to meet up with Mark Haynes and the Holy Sprite as he rolled in from
Grand Junction.  Only took a few minutes to pop the trailer off his van and
onto our pick-up. Checked the lights and found a bulb burned out on the left
rear of the trailer. 1157 - got one at a Kwik Shop. Actually picked up
several to pass along just in case.

The Holy Sprite is traveling well despite concerns about the small trailer.
Of more concern is the Interstate speeds. The tires are rated at 55 mph
under maximum trailer load. Bob Kitterer, Mark Haynes and now us have all
kept it between 55 and 60 and it has behaved itself nicely. As we neared
Burlington, CO we ran into a multi-cell severe storm complex with downburst
winds and occasional heavy rains. Lots of lightning. I got some pictures of
the Holy Sprite with a high plains severe storm in the background.
Unfortunately the one with the double rainbows didn't come out that well.

Anyway, we reached Colby, KS around 10:30 pm CDT, found a motel and are
crashing. Up at Oh Dark Thirty to head for Topeka. The 60 mph top end will
make the trip a little longer than planned but we should have lunch in
Topeka at Bobo's Drive In with Mike Osipik and Mac Humphries of the Kansas
City Healey club. Then we can cut for home.

I have a fair number of pictures including some video capture but they will
have to wait until I get home to be posted. The hotel wireless is only
slightly faster than pony express so I couldn't send up any pics...

Very tired.  Lights out. Taps.  Whatever.....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Aug 11 22:59:56 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:59:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Travel Log....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808112145y2e9bd93cm684205f8553736bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808112145y2e9bd93cm684205f8553736bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48A0B65C.6718.30E9F03@dmg.bossig.com>

Thanks to all who are creating and writing this living log....
I am enjoying it and I am more than just a little envious ;-\

I'll buy the book (if it ever gets printed !)

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 11 23:15:50 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:15:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
In-Reply-To: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>
References: <383BE36DF5454D309448FD92915A60DA@Home>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10808112215u524a5469s26f82cd1e0376ef7@mail.gmail.com>

Could someone pick that up and bring it out to Oregon......

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Harrington Park, NJ
>
> http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/788925618.html
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 11 23:19:48 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:19:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Homeward trip
Message-ID: <256504C5-7434-4F55-BD24-2C7A346F2C58@mac.com>

Decided to just head back home after handing off the Holy Sprite to  
Mark.   Departed Grand Junction for the 800 mile trip about 11:00 am  
west coast time and got home at 10:00 pm - - not to bad.  Now for  
some sack time.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Aug 12 05:17:45 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:17:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] one of youse guys needs this guy
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8fc64$6c8517d0$0201a8c0@DADSTOY>
Message-ID: <20080812111753.819D018763E@autox.team.net>

The story is, he's been at the shelter for nearly a year. The problem is,
he's very untrusting, and shows fear and aggression in the cage, and people
pass him by. You take him for a walk, and after about 2 minutes, he begins
to trust you. 5 minutes after that, he stops every time you stop, and he
looks up and you like" what's next?". He deserves a good home. If I didn't
already have 5 dogs already, he'd be home with me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Brazil [mailto:gerrybraz at cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:16 AM
To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson'; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Spridgets'
Subject: RE: [Thicko] one of youse guys needs this guy

There was no punch line......I kept waiting for Yeager to hump somebody's
leg......after all, he is from Wisconsin.

The Scoutmaster

-----Original Message-----
From: team-thicko-bounces+gerrybraz=cablespeed.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:team-thicko-bounces+gerrybraz=cablespeed.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:47 PM
To: team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Spridgets'
Subject: [Thicko] one of youse guys needs this guy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGaS8KrluBg

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Tue Aug 12 05:56:38 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:56:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin Healey 1965 Sprite Engine& Trans, Free
Message-ID: <19056077.7360581218542198616.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

I'm picking it up tonight.  Frank will have it Thursday.

George Marinos




On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at  1:15 AM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Could someone pick that up and bring it out to Oregon......
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> Harrington Park, NJ
>>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Aug 12 06:28:39 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:28:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] new Mini Clubman Rickshaw
Message-ID: <BAY112-F350F4B5C8593BABA2C5037B8700@phx.gbl>

Strange but true ...
http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9245120

From franks97 at verizon.net  Tue Aug 12 07:52:39 2008
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:52:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oregon SCCA Vintage August
Message-ID: <C4C6E3B7.5C71%franks97@verizon.net>

For those of you not on the PDX racer list Doug Berger has some good
pictures from the August Double Regional at:

www.digitalracephotos.com

I had a great time chasing Jim Norlin9s Spitfire around all morning during
Sunday9s qualifying and posted some highlights on YouTube:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHrmHMEK9k>

I9m driving my blue 67 Sprite.

Enjoy!


--
David Franks
franks97 at verizon.net
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 07:59:22 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 06:59:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oregon SCCA Vintage August
In-Reply-To: <C4C6E3B7.5C71%franks97@verizon.net>
References: <C4C6E3B7.5C71%franks97@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <001b01c8fc83$a05576d0$3603f204@spider>

You may have seen the 1965 VW Bug running in Sedan? My old rig from the late
1960's.  ...bill in oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Franks
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:53 AM
To: ORVint; vintageracer at att.net; Spridgets List
Subject: [Spridgets] Oregon SCCA Vintage August

For those of you not on the PDX racer list Doug Berger has some good
pictures from the August Double Regional at:

www.digitalracephotos.com

I had a great time chasing Jim Norlin9s Spitfire around all morning during
Sunday9s qualifying and posted some highlights on YouTube:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHrmHMEK9k>

I'm driving my blue 67 Sprite.
Enjoy!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 08:10:13 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:10:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Berkeley
Message-ID: <D76F530FEAF445289417E6FBE9AD951D@NilesAD.von.gov>

In case nobody else kept score, the engineless Berkeley on Ebay in Marietta, 
GA, was bid up to $3649.99, but did not make reserve. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Aug 12 08:39:44 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:39:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] spridget hauler
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39438B27DD253BC76E08C2B8700@phx.gbl>

with a 12 foot enclosed box, something like this should fit a spridget 
shouldn't it?

http://www.usedottawa.com/classified-ad/6696155

I'm not interested in it.  I just bumped into the ad and my first thought 
was "driveway storage container". :)

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Aug 12 09:36:53 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:36:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <20080812.093653.24659.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Holy Sprite

Well, Here I am sitting in the hotel parking lot in a really hot, dry place. A
few people come by and look at me as if they'd never seen a Bugeye before,
then Bob comes out and pulls me up in front of the hotel and starts packing
his belongings into his car- Where are we going now?
Then someone comes up and starts tugging at my straps- What's going on here?
He talks to Bob, and then they hook me up to a different car-Hey BOB! You
gonna leave me alone with this guy?
They take a picture, shake hands, and off I go, towards the Mountains. First,
it's flat and hot, then I'm in a canyon, with a big river next to me with
people rafting in it and hey! This road's just hanging out over the river! I'm
no boat, get me out of here! No water though, despite my panic. Up we go
higher and higher, it's nice and cool up here. Through a long tunnel and then
Whoa, what a ride down!

We stop after a long downhill, and what's going on now? Another guy shows up,
they shake hands, and put me behind yet another car (truck this time). It's
easier to breathe now, and the landscape looks flatter I hope that's the last
of these big hills.

Mark Haynes- Recorder

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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Aug 12 10:42:15 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:42:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite over the Divide
Message-ID: <20080812.104215.13875.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

So Fr Jack MUST have some pull, I had scheduled the handoff times with Bob
Kitterer and Jim Johnson using WAG estimations. I pulled into Grand Junction ~
15 min after I expected, and met up with Jim ~ 4 min later than expected. This
includes the fact that I had no idea that I'd be doing 55-60 mph while
towing.
My van has NEVER gotten more than 20 MPG, but I got into Grand Junction after
250 miles at 3/4 tank! That's around 40 MPG! At 400 mi on the trip odo, I
decided that the fuel gage wasn't forking, and topped it off with 7 gals.
Unbelievable mileage-someone was helping out.
The handoffs went smooth as they could, I've downloaded in-transit pics to
Larry's website. Since my time coordinates were so tight, I didn't get any
stopped, but at least the journey and the views that the Sprite Saw are
documented.
Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 11:08:04 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:08:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <1367238.1218560884342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: M <haynes386 at netzero.net>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 11:36 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>Holy Sprite
>
>Well, Here I am sitting in the hotel parking lot in a really hot, dry place. A
>few people come by and look at me as if they'd never seen a Bugeye before,
>then Bob comes out and pulls me up in front of the hotel and starts packing
>his belongings into his car- Where are we going now?
>Then someone comes up and starts tugging at my straps- What's going on here?
>He talks to Bob, and then they hook me up to a different car-Hey BOB! You
>gonna leave me alone with this guy?
>They take a picture, shake hands, and off I go, towards the Mountains. First,
>it's flat and hot, then I'm in a canyon, with a big river next to me with
>people rafting in it and hey! This road's just hanging out over the river! I'm
>no boat, get me out of here! No water though, despite my panic. Up we go
>higher and higher, it's nice and cool up here. Through a long tunnel and then
>Whoa, what a ride down!
>
>We stop after a long downhill, and what's going on now? Another guy shows up,
>they shake hands, and put me behind yet another car (truck this time). It's
>easier to breathe now, and the landscape looks flatter I hope that's the last
>of these big hills.
>
>Mark Haynes- Recorder
>
>____________________________________________________________
>

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From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Aug 12 11:10:53 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <1367238.1218560884342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <1367238.1218560884342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <A3F4589C-C52D-4481-83BA-5C16FD9E3C91@mac.com>

What do you mean - - - - haven't you ever watched "CARS" ???


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

> A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Aug 12 11:38:04 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (M)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:38:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <20080812.113804.13875.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

So if cars are truly THAT inanimate, why do we a) name them and b) swear at
them when they break down?
Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 11:59:56 2008
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:59:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <20080812.113804.13875.1@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <035a01c8fca5$3aa9a960$0301a8c0@DELL>

Same reason we do that to cats.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide


> So if cars are truly THAT inanimate, why do we a) name them and b) swear 
> at
> them when they break down?
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 12:06:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:06:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <1367238.1218560884342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <46F3B63504574E76B5B1183A59A327D3@NilesAD.von.gov>

>A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).

Sounds like you killed yours...

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 12:09:10 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <18816478.1218564550755.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't name mine other than Bugeye, Sprite, Seven etc. . . .  I quit swearing at them along time ago.  I don't think any good comes out of that ;^)).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: M <haynes386 at netzero.net>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 1:38 PM
>To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com
>Cc: haynes386 at netzero.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>So if cars are truly THAT inanimate, why do we a) name them and b) swear at them when they break down?
>Mark Haynes
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 12:11:51 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:11:51 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <4215031.1218564711740.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I know where you are headed with "cars".  Don't feel bad.  I always thought the way most of the Austin Healey Club magazine articles patronized the Bugeye etc. as some toy and cute named and speaking object sort of sickens you toward that viewpoint after about the FIRST article.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 1:10 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>What do you mean - - - - haven't you ever watched "CARS" ???
>
>
>Bob Kitterer
>
>1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
>On Aug 12, 2008, at 10:08 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>
>> A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 12:16:01 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:16:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I have thought about it quite a few times but I will let them live for now ;^)).  I guess that it was odd that you never hear the Big Healey folks belittling their Healeys.  I know Frank sure likes Big Healeys.

I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  All of the cutesy little named Sprites.  Oh how sweeeeet. . . . .  

Mike c

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 2:06 PM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>, Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>>A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).
>
>Sounds like you killed yours...


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 12:44:46 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:44:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CE45287B36134F098E48EFD5AFD6985D@NilesAD.von.gov>

>>Sounds like you killed yours...

>I have thought about it quite a few times but I will let them live for now 
>;^)).  I guess that it was odd that you never hear the Big Healey folks 
>belittling their Healeys.  I know Frank sure likes Big Healeys.
> I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  All of the 
> cutesy little named Sprites.  Oh how sweeeeet. . . . .

It is sorta like the MGB folks who need some form of petty revenge for the 
fact that the Spridgets always seem to beat them at the autocrosses.

Kinda reminds me of the gal at our Miata Club autocross last Saturday. I 
commented to one of my friends there that it must be a little humiliating to 
spend the money for a fancy Mustang GT, thinking you are buying a sports car 
that handles AND accelerates, then bring it to an autocross just to have 
your lunch handed to you by every Miata in sight, to say nothing of a ratty 
old Midget.
David Lieb 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 12:51:58 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:51:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48A1DBCE.6050402@comcast.net>

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  
YO! Some of us ginzos have a thing for pink flamingos on green grass 
next to a black boy holding a lantern.
You gotta problem wit dat?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 13:06:37 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:06:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <48A1DBCE.6050402@comcast.net>
References: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48A1DBCE.6050402@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808121206h5f5f048ckc569c422a438ca32@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, well how many cars can YOU find, after you get done mowing the grass??

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> > I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.
> YO! Some of us ginzos have a thing for pink flamingos on green grass
> next to a black boy holding a lantern.
> You gotta problem wit dat?
>
>
> --
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> Toms River, NJ
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug 12 13:25:39 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:39 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
Message-ID: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>

Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer  
get back to Buster?
 
W E S L A K E 1330

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 13:28:20 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <8414737.1218569300398.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Their isn't a nail-gun involved on how I answer that is there?

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 2:51 PM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
>Cc: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>> I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  
>YO! Some of us ginzos have a thing for pink flamingos on green grass 
>next to a black boy holding a lantern.
>You gotta problem wit dat?
>
>
>-- 
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>Toms River, NJ
>


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 13:31:06 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:31:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
Message-ID: <23918450.1218569466052.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It doesn't!  It sounds like it is gonna be toast when it gets to Frank anyways ;^).

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>From: Weslake1330 at aol.com
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 3:25 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
>
>Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer  
>get back to Buster?
> 
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From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Aug 12 13:35:16 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:35:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <CE45287B36134F098E48EFD5AFD6985D@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<CE45287B36134F098E48EFD5AFD6985D@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <081220081935.29668.48A1E5F40000ED7C000073E422230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog sez:

Two other non-sports that wouldn't fair as well around those autocross cones would be the Ferrari Enzo or AC Cobra.  :-)



 -------------- Original message from "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>: --------------


 it must be a little humiliating to 
> spend the money for a fancy Mustang GT, thinking you are buying a sports car 
> that handles AND accelerates, then bring it to an autocross just to have 
> your lunch handed to you by every Miata in sight, to say nothing of a ratty 
> old Midget. 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 13:38:19 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:38:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <22507645.1218569899125.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I am still scratching my head on this one.  How does that pertain to my cutesy cutesy comment?

I am usually not this dense.  Please help me to understand ;^).

Mike C
-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 2:44 PM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>, Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>>>Sounds like you killed yours...
>
>>I have thought about it quite a few times but I will let them live for now 
>>;^)).  I guess that it was odd that you never hear the Big Healey folks 
>>belittling their Healeys.  I know Frank sure likes Big Healeys.
>> I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  All of the 
>> cutesy little named Sprites.  Oh how sweeeeet. . . . .
>
>It is sorta like the MGB folks who need some form of petty revenge for the 
>fact that the Spridgets always seem to beat them at the autocrosses.
>
>Kinda reminds me of the gal at our Miata Club autocross last Saturday. I 
>commented to one of my friends there that it must be a little humiliating to 
>spend the money for a fancy Mustang GT, thinking you are buying a sports car 
>that handles AND accelerates, then bring it to an autocross just to have 
>your lunch handed to you by every Miata in sight, to say nothing of a ratty 
>old Midget.
>David Lieb 
>


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 12 13:40:32 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:40:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

This kinda reminds me of the argument that you can shrink a race track to the point that only a Go-kart can get round it .  Spridgets do very well when the advantage is in their favor.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: tinydog at snet.net
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 3:35 PM
>To: SpridgetList <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>tinydog sez:
>
>Two other non-sports that wouldn't fair as well around those autocross cones would be the Ferrari Enzo or AC Cobra.  :-)
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message from "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>: --------------
>
>
> it must be a little humiliating to 
>> spend the money for a fancy Mustang GT, thinking you are buying a sports car 
>> that handles AND accelerates, then bring it to an autocross just to have 
>> your lunch handed to you by every Miata in sight, to say nothing of a ratty 
>> old Midget. 
>_______________________________________________


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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 14:07:47 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:07:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <081220082007.18534.48A1ED93000C1393000048662215553894000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

I am a proud memeber of the Wilton crescent social club ( our neighborhood party group) our mascot  and symbol is a metal pink flamingo that we stick on our front lawns to notify our other neighbors of a party at our house that evening. GO WSC!

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> 

> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: 
> > I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either. 
> YO! Some of us ginzos have a thing for pink flamingos on green grass 
> next to a black boy holding a lantern. 
> You gotta problem wit dat? 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici 
> Toms River, NJ 
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 14:10:26 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:10:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>

> This kinda reminds me of the argument that you can shrink a race track to 
> the point that only a Go-kart can get round it .  Spridgets do very well 
> when the advantage is in their favor.

We used to bring the cones to the track in a trailer behind a big old Caddy 
and run the Caddy through the course once it was laid out so that no one 
could complain that their car did not fit. I will admit that this course was 
a bit biased in favor of Spridgets, but I will be darned if I can figure out 
quite how. There was no place where a large car would not fit. FTD was a BMW 
M3. It was one of the first tracks, however, where I really wasn't wishing 
that there was twice the HP under my right foot. OTOH, I have NEVER driven 
an autocross course where Spridgets did not have the advantage over MGBs and 
Heavey Healeys.
That was the point I was trying to make somewhat obtusely before; the MGBs 
and Heavey Healeys have to resort to talking down at the Spridgets to hide 
the fact that the Spridget really is a better-handling car.
David Lieb 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 14:24:56 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:24:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48A1F198.1040109@comcast.net>

Weslake1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer  
> get back to Buster?
>  
>
>   
Buster said to sell it and use the proceeds for the Sprite.
Wanna buy a trailer for $20? ;)
Or maybe some day soon, a car will need to go back to California.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Tue Aug 12 14:23:37 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:23:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Common Tools Explained
In-Reply-To: <D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48A1F149.8000606@verizon.net>

Because so many of y'all do not see the MG BBS web sites:

http://woodbutcher.net/tools.shtml

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug 12 14:25:41 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:25:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
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At 03:10 PM 8/12/2008, David Lieb wrote:
>That was the point I was trying to make somewhat obtusely before; the MGBs
>and Heavey Healeys have to resort to talking down at the Spridgets to hide
>the fact that the Spridget really is a better-handling car.
>David Lieb
============================
Touche'

It DOES chap them, doesn't it....

Peter C 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Aug 12 14:28:24 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:28:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c8fcb9$f8e585c0$eab09140$@net>

There is a second trip being formulated where a "pink" Nash Metropolitan
gets loaded in New Joisey and gets delivered to a priest in Cali who isnt
close to retirement yet..but will be when the investigation gets closer to
ending......And then Buster gets his trailer released from evidence....Flame
suit on...

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
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Weslake1330 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer

Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer
get back to Buster?

W E S L A K E 1330
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Aug 12 14:47:58 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:47:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

>From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite, you can 
just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded envelopes.  Couple 
of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this car will 
be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with two big 
mowers would be concerned about overloading it.

Glen

> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer
> get back to Buster?
>
> W E S L A K E 1330

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 14:57:46 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <563355.68410.qm@web62504.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Boy, that makes me feel better about being next in line for the hand-off!

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

From: Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
To: Weslake1330 at aol.com
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 4:47 PM

>From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite, you can 
just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded envelopes.  Couple 
of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this car will 
be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with two big 
mowers would be concerned about overloading it.

Glen

> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the
trailer
> get back to Buster?
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Aug 12 14:58:00 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:58:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
	<007f01c8fcb9$f8e585c0$eab09140$@net>
Message-ID: <003901c8fcbe$1b3df450$6401a8c0@personal>

LOL, flame on Leo.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: <Weslake1330 at aol.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer


> There is a second trip being formulated where a "pink" Nash Metropolitan
> gets loaded in New Joisey and gets delivered to a priest in Cali who isnt
> close to retirement yet..but will be when the investigation gets closer to
> ending......And then Buster gets his trailer released from 
> evidence....Flame
> suit on...
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf 
> Of
> Weslake1330 at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
>
> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer
> get back to Buster?
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Tue Aug 12 15:01:46 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:01:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007f01c8fcbe$a17ba580$6401a8c0@personal>

Think it has been donated to the cause to be sold for parts or such???

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:25 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer


> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer
> get back to Buster?
>
> W E S L A K E 1330
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Tue Aug 12 15:14:29 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:14:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
References: <563355.68410.qm@web62504.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <37D78CCAB9314915B80B627E7C926915@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Respect the speed limit and avoid large bumps.  Remember, it already made it
over the Rockies.  Downhill slide from here on.
I guess I's say that its OK for a soon to be restored Sprite, no way for a
restored Sprite.  Also, once the engine and trans are out, it should be much
better.  Isn't someone going to take those big freaking tires and wheels along
the way?  Another 200lbs off the load.
Whoever takes the wheels and tires has to send a picture of their Sprite using
them.  I want to see the full roll cage and firesuit that comes with the car
that can really use that much rubber.

Glen


        Boy, that makes me feel better about being next in line for the
hand-off!




>From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite, you can
just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded envelopes.  Couple
of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this car will
be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with two big
mowers would be concerned about overloading it.

Glen

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Aug 12 16:53:29 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:53:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer
In-Reply-To: <37D78CCAB9314915B80B627E7C926915@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <000e01c8fcce$3d598a80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Just wondering where, along the way, that 1500 lump is going to
disappear?
Since I'll be towing the first leg in Pennsylvania, and PA highway
surfaces being what they are, well...........
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Glen Byrns
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:14 PM
To: jjkan5 at yahoo.com
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer

Respect the speed limit and avoid large bumps.  Remember, it already
made it
over the Rockies.  Downhill slide from here on.
I guess I's say that its OK for a soon to be restored Sprite, no way for
a
restored Sprite.  Also, once the engine and trans are out, it should be
much
better.  Isn't someone going to take those big freaking tires and wheels
along
the way?  Another 200lbs off the load.
Whoever takes the wheels and tires has to send a picture of their Sprite
using
them.  I want to see the full roll cage and firesuit that comes with the
car
that can really use that much rubber.

Glen


        Boy, that makes me feel better about being next in line for the
hand-off!




>From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite, you
can
just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded envelopes.
Couple
of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this car
will
be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with two big
mowers would be concerned about overloading it.

Glen
_______________________________________________

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug 12 16:37:40 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:37:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
Message-ID: <c5a.3997678d.35d36ab4@aol.com>

Did you say junk the 1500 Midget and fit an A-series and ...
 
In a message dated 12/08/2008 22:15:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
grbyrns at ucdavis.edu writes:

Another  200lbs off the load.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 16:51:33 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:51:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <48A1DBCE.6050402@comcast.net>
References: <455683.1218564961375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<48A1DBCE.6050402@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48A213F5.2080105@gmail.com>

You forgot the "Mary on the half shell".  I know where you can get a bunch.

Frank Clarici wrote:
> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>   
>> I don't like yard art like pink flamingos and stuff either.  
>>     
> YO! Some of us ginzos have a thing for pink flamingos on green grass 
> next to a black boy holding a lantern.
> You gotta problem wit dat?

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 17:44:06 2008
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:44:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1218564002.28036.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1218564002.28036.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <48A22046.1080702@comcast.net>

Mike C wrote:
> A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).

Shhhh. Cars hate when people say that.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 17:45:09 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:45:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer
In-Reply-To: <000e01c8fcce$3d598a80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <102603.79269.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Bud - 

The 1500 is coming out tomorrow morning before Dave Lieb takes the lead near St. Louis. I am meeting Dave and Trish near Indianapolis tomorrow, late afternoon. I will swing back home and head out for Cambridge, Ohio Friday at noon. That should put me near Cambridge about 3:30ish on Friday, depending on traffic around Columbus.

Let's touch base Thursday. I will be in my office all day Thursday.

John Kuzman


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer
> To: "'Glen Byrns'" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>, jjkan5 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 6:53 PM
> Just wondering where, along the way, that 1500 lump is going
> to
> disappear?
> Since I'll be towing the first leg in Pennsylvania, and
> PA highway
> surfaces being what they are, well...........
> Bud Osbourne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of
> Glen Byrns
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: jjkan5 at yahoo.com
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
> 
> Respect the speed limit and avoid large bumps.  Remember,
> it already
> made it
> over the Rockies.  Downhill slide from here on.
> I guess I's say that its OK for a soon to be restored
> Sprite, no way for
> a
> restored Sprite.  Also, once the engine and trans are out,
> it should be
> much
> better.  Isn't someone going to take those big freaking
> tires and wheels
> along
> the way?  Another 200lbs off the load.
> Whoever takes the wheels and tires has to send a picture of
> their Sprite
> using
> them.  I want to see the full roll cage and firesuit that
> comes with the
> car
> that can really use that much rubber.
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
>         Boy, that makes me feel better about being next in
> line for the
> hand-off!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the
> Holy Spirite, you
> can
> just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded
> envelopes.
> Couple
> of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first
> miracle of this car
> will
> be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener
> with two big
> mowers would be concerned about overloading it.
> 
> Glen
> _______________________________________________

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Aug 12 18:15:50 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:15:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
	<C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <32789741-C576-46CE-A282-B2DB8EF0E9F7@mac.com>

With a little care the trailer should get the car to Frank, will not  
set any speed records but should get there, it should be about 2/3 of  
the way by now.  It will be a big help if the engine/trany and wheels  
disappear.  It will reduce the weight on the trailer but it also  
means that the car can be flat on the trailer bed for a more even  
weight distribution.  The trailer weight spec is fine for a Sprite  
rolling chassis but it is pushing it with the other hardware.  The  
trailer is designed to fold up for storage when not in use which  
leads me to believe that it was intended for occasional short hauls.   
But it is a donation thanks to Buster and is providing a way to get  
the car across country, something we did not have.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 12, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Glen Byrns wrote:

>> From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite,  
>> you can
> just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded  
> envelopes.  Couple
> of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this  
> car will
> be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with  
> two big
> mowers would be concerned about overloading it.
>
> Glen
>
>> Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the  
>> trailer
>> get back to Buster?
>>
>> W E S L A K E 1330
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 18:39:17 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:39:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug Eye)
 Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
Message-ID: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>

OK what is this guy referring to when he says "This is a highly modified
1961 Austin Healy (Bug Eye) Sprite.  One of 39 built in 1961." check
ebay #150280636006
And he can't spell Healey.
Enjoy,
Linda

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 18:47:16 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:47:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10808121747h76f05b2r982f998e97d8ea1a@mail.gmail.com>

Not much of the "Bugeye" part left!
Herb

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> OK what is this guy referring to when he says "This is a highly modified
> 1961 Austin Healy (Bug Eye) Sprite.  One of 39 built in 1961." check
> ebay #150280636006
> And he can't spell Healey.
> Enjoy,
> Linda
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Aug 12 18:51:49 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:51:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <007f01c8fcb9$f8e585c0$eab09140$@net>
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
	<007f01c8fcb9$f8e585c0$eab09140$@net>
Message-ID: <0D40AE5BCD12450FAE7BAA3E61D70E76@Home>

> There is a second trip being formulated where a "pink" Nash Metropolitan
> gets loaded in New Joisey

Is anyone really interested in Nash Metropolitans?  I saw three of them in a 
local junk yard a few months ago.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Aug 12 20:01:34 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:01:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEIPCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<OK what is this guy referring to when he says "This is a highly modified
1961 Austin Healy (Bug Eye) Sprite.  One of 39 built in 1961.">>

Have NO clue Linda, so I asked him<G>!!

Keep yall 'advised'<VBG>!!!

From bkitterer at mac.com  Tue Aug 12 19:17:34 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 18:17:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03454250-F155-4741-BF9C-2DE6E1C7EA4B@mac.com>

Bugeye Sprite production ended in 1961 with the last 39 cars.   Then  
production started of the Mk II Sprites and Mk I Midgets.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> 1961 Austin Healy (Bug Eye) Sprite.  One of 39 built in 1961

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 19:52:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:52:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
References: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
	<03454250-F155-4741-BF9C-2DE6E1C7EA4B@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>

> Bugeye Sprite production ended in 1961 with the last 39 cars.   Then
> production started of the Mk II Sprites and Mk I Midgets.

Those cars, however, were RHD CKD units and were NOT shipped to the USA. 
Since cars here are titled according to the year the car was sold rather 
than the year it was manufactured, there are many "rare 1961 Bugeyes" in 
this country, NONE of which were "manufactured in 1961" as this dude claims.
David Lieb 

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Aug 12 20:12:38 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:12:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer
In-Reply-To: <102603.79269.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c8fcea$0fa0c380$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Sounds good, John.
Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kuzman [mailto:jjkan5 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:45 PM
To: 'Glen Byrns'; Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Spridgets'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer

Bud - 

The 1500 is coming out tomorrow morning before Dave Lieb takes the lead
near St. Louis. I am meeting Dave and Trish near Indianapolis tomorrow,
late afternoon. I will swing back home and head out for Cambridge, Ohio
Friday at noon. That should put me near Cambridge about 3:30ish on
Friday, depending on traffic around Columbus.

Let's touch base Thursday. I will be in my office all day Thursday.

John Kuzman


--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite trailer
> To: "'Glen Byrns'" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>, jjkan5 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 6:53 PM
> Just wondering where, along the way, that 1500 lump is going
> to
> disappear?
> Since I'll be towing the first leg in Pennsylvania, and
> PA highway
> surfaces being what they are, well...........
> Bud Osbourne
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of
> Glen Byrns
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 4:14 PM
> To: jjkan5 at yahoo.com
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
> 
> Respect the speed limit and avoid large bumps.  Remember,
> it already
> made it
> over the Rockies.  Downhill slide from here on.
> I guess I's say that its OK for a soon to be restored
> Sprite, no way for
> a
> restored Sprite.  Also, once the engine and trans are out,
> it should be
> much
> better.  Isn't someone going to take those big freaking
> tires and wheels
> along
> the way?  Another 200lbs off the load.
> Whoever takes the wheels and tires has to send a picture of
> their Sprite
> using
> them.  I want to see the full roll cage and firesuit that
> comes with the
> car
> that can really use that much rubber.
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
>         Boy, that makes me feel better about being next in
> line for the
> hand-off!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the
> Holy Spirite, you
> can
> just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded
> envelopes.
> Couple
> of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first
> miracle of this car
> will
> be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener
> with two big
> mowers would be concerned about overloading it.
> 
> Glen
> _______________________________________________

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Aug 12 20:22:25 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:22:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye)
In-Reply-To: <5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>
Message-ID: <20080813022225.ULKK26780.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Not to make light of this misfortune, (someone put a few hours in this one)
but makes you wonder what caused the collision...at least there's no cracks
in the windshield or malformed steering wheel if you get what I mean.

Chris

66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Lieb
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:52 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006

> Bugeye Sprite production ended in 1961 with the last 39 cars.   Then
> production started of the Mk II Sprites and Mk I Midgets.

Those cars, however, were RHD CKD units and were NOT shipped to the USA. 
Since cars here are titled according to the year the car was sold rather 
than the year it was manufactured, there are many "rare 1961 Bugeyes" in 
this country, NONE of which were "manufactured in 1961" as this dude claims.
David Lieb 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 20:26:26 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>
References: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
	<03454250-F155-4741-BF9C-2DE6E1C7EA4B@mac.com>
	<5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>
Message-ID: <48A24652.4010508@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> Bugeye Sprite production ended in 1961 with the last 39 cars.   Then
>> production started of the Mk II Sprites and Mk I Midgets.
>>     
>
> Those cars, however, were RHD CKD units and were NOT shipped to the USA. 
> Since cars here are titled according to the year the car was sold rather 
> than the year it was manufactured, there are many "rare 1961 Bugeyes" in 
> this country, NONE of which were "manufactured in 1961" as this dude claims.
> David Lieb 
> _______________________________________________
>
>   
Hey, I have a 66 Bugeye but I live in Jersey ;)
Wanna see the title? I drove it out to Missouri and back.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 20:29:28 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oregon SCCA Vintage August
In-Reply-To: <C4C6E3B7.5C71%franks97@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <658178.53054.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Franks <franks97 at verizon.net> wrote:
> I had a great time chasing Jim Norlin9s Spitfire around all
> morning during
> Sunday9s qualifying and posted some highlights on YouTube:
> 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdHrmHMEK9k>

I just finished loading my car for a tuning day at Blackhawk Farms tomorrow. Thanks for getting the juices flowing! 

Ron

From tnhotairpilot at comcast.net  Tue Aug 12 20:30:05 2008
From: tnhotairpilot at comcast.net (Hank Beck)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:30:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 73 Midget for sale
Message-ID: <20080813022948.CE275187642@autox.team.net>

I have a 73 Midget that I need to move. It is a basket case right 
now. I have a 1275 & 1500 engine, The gearbox from the 1500 is still 
together & the gearbox from the 1275 is in pieces. I have the front 
suspension from a 76 Midget, Rear suspension, doors, steering rack, 
hood, rear deck lid & other assorted parts. I'm asking $1500 for 
everything I have. Pictures available on request. Help me get this to 
a home that will get this car back on the road. Have clear title, so 
get in touch.

Hank
Chattanooga, TN

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 20:42:36 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <0D40AE5BCD12450FAE7BAA3E61D70E76@Home>
Message-ID: <701711.48588.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> Is anyone really interested in Nash Metropolitans?  I saw
> three of them in a 
> local junk yard a few months ago.

Hmmm...my neighbor was drooling my green Bugeye tonight and was lamenting that the most fun car he ever had was his 1st, a Metropolitan. Maybe there will be a return trip for the trailer after all (Grandeffo and I get to tow this time, Lieb!). Where on LI is the yard?

Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Aug 12 21:45:02 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:45:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEJICKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Have NO clue Linda, so I asked him<G>!!
Keep yall 'advised'<VBG>!!!>>

Guy must REALLY want to sell the car as this is his just in reply:

<quote>
You should read a little bit more about the transition from the MK I to the
MK II.
</quote>

Should I ask him "What is a MK I?" ???<G>

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Tue Aug 12 20:56:07 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:56:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080812152432.0417b0d8@nosimport.com>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080812152432.0417b0d8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <E7FB59DC-DFE3-40A7-925A-0D690183F853@phillymgclub.com>

Neverthought I would see the day when a Viper and an Lamborghini  
Gallardo would beat a Lotus on an Autocross, But it happened. See this  
months Road & Track.

Larry

On Aug 12, 2008, at 4:25 PM, Peter C wrote:

> At 03:10 PM 8/12/2008, David Lieb wrote:
>> That was the point I was trying to make somewhat obtusely before;  
>> the MGBs
>> and Heavey Healeys have to resort to talking down at the Spridgets  
>> to hide
>> the fact that the Spridget really is a better-handling car.
>> David Lieb
> ============================
> Touche'
>
> It DOES chap them, doesn't it....
>
> Peter C
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Aug 12 21:10:27 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:10:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <701711.48588.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <701711.48588.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9DC1EBAA20FE4B8F92B93B0753C4E59F@Home>

The yard is in Seldon, about 60 miles east of NYC.  I have no idea what 
condition these cars are in.  I assume they are not collector cars or they 
would not be in the junk yard.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer


> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
>> Is anyone really interested in Nash Metropolitans?  I saw
>> three of them in a
>> local junk yard a few months ago.
>
> Hmmm...my neighbor was drooling my green Bugeye tonight and was lamenting 
> that the most fun car he ever had was his 1st, a Metropolitan. Maybe there 
> will be a return trip for the trailer after all (Grandeffo and I get to 
> tow this time, Lieb!). Where on LI is the yard?
>
> Ron
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 21:24:56 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <9DC1EBAA20FE4B8F92B93B0753C4E59F@Home>
Message-ID: <808390.81288.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Selden, with an "e" IIRC!

Most of my favorite cars aren't collectible, either.

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> The yard is in Seldon, about 60 miles east of NYC.  I have
> no idea what 
> condition these cars are in.  I assume they are not
> collector cars or they 
> would not be in the junk yard.
://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 21:31:06 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:31:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
References: <c2c.3f67cca8.35d33db3@aol.com>
	<C0B1E75380D34DE784842514256EA6C6@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808122031scc792abj700011ec8697b2ec@mail.gmail.com>

Hey gang...  Save the disparaging remarks about "The Little Trailer That
Could"!  We had no trouble with it other than the typical chinky quality
issues. The tail light assembly is the cheapest thing I've every seen.  Must
be all of about $.10 to make one of these!!  When Mark dropped it with us,
the bulb was burned out in this lamp so I put a new one in. That night, I
discover no brake or turn signal lights on the left side. We took it all the
way to Topeka this morning like that. Mike Osipik, Mac Humphries and myself
popped it open again and found that one of the contacts had been shaved
completely off the base of the 1157 bulb by the two copper strips that were
supposed to act as contacts! I managed to pry them apart and insert a new
bulb which was working when the guys left Topeka. Basically, the light
fixtures are the cheapest Chinky hunks of $hit I've ever seen.  Otherwise,
that little trailer is doing great service. It is stable, tows easily, and
is holding up very nicely under the weight!

Cheers!!
Jim & Carolyn who just got home 1330 miles later with bigs smiles on our
faces!

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> >From what I saw of the trailer when we loaded up the Holy Spirite, you can
> just fold it carefully and put it in one of those padded envelopes.  Couple
> of bucks postage and Bob's your uncle.  The first miracle of this car will
> be its safe arrival on that trailer.  Seriously, a gardener with two big
> mowers would be concerned about overloading it.
>
> Glen
>
> > Excuse me if I'm being thick or missed something BUT how does the trailer
> > get back to Buster?
> >
> > W E S L A K E 1330
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 21:32:23 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:32:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <808390.81288.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <9DC1EBAA20FE4B8F92B93B0753C4E59F@Home>
	<808390.81288.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808122032n7a9bb65eia8a256b866d88b74@mail.gmail.com>

Sure they are, Ron!!  Its just that nobody but you wants to collect them
;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Selden, with an "e" IIRC!
>
> Most of my favorite cars aren't collectible, either.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> > The yard is in Seldon, about 60 miles east of NYC.  I have
> > no idea what
> > condition these cars are in.  I assume they are not
> > collector cars or they
> > would not be in the junk yard.
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 21:46:08 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:46:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808122032n7a9bb65eia8a256b866d88b74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <565521.75779.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Jim,
 
Not true.
 
When we do the South West Unique Little Car Show here in California we have
never had less then 50 of them at the show. There was 76 at one meet. So there
is people that are very into these cars. Most of them look better then new.
There is a big demand for these cars in most areas. I went to the National
event to help when it was in Chicago. One of my friends is a chapter president
and asked me to help with the show. There was over 300 of them showed up from
all over the USA. I would say they are as popular as any of our British cars.
Most shows out here you are lucky if you can get that many of all British
makes at the show.
 
Vigil  

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
To: soavero at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:32 PM

Sure they are, Ron!!  Its just that nobody but you wants to collect them
;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Selden, with an "e" IIRC!
>
> Most of my favorite cars aren't collectible, either.
>
> --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> > The yard is in Seldon, about 60 miles east of NYC.  I have
> > no idea what
> > condition these cars are in.  I assume they are not
> > collector cars or they
> > would not be in the junk yard.
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 12 21:58:26 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:58:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <808390.81288.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <940042.54286.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Why is Charlie living in Oklahoma if he has a town named after
him?........LOL
 
Vigil

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:24 PM

Selden, with an "e" IIRC!

Most of my favorite cars aren't collectible, either.

--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> The yard is in Seldon, about 60 miles east of NYC.  I have
> no idea what
> condition these cars are in.  I assume they are not
> collector cars or they
> would not be in the junk yard.
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From tinydog at snet.net  Tue Aug 12 22:39:55 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:39:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <205cef430808121739s4f93e95n22cdba92f6c46a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <081320080439.18583.48A2659B000A12F30000489722230704929B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

 tinydog sez:

parts car

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> ebay #150280636006

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 12 22:44:00 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Odessy Continues!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808122144p35c9d4f8u26ca153d05681da7@mail.gmail.com>

We are home now after 2 days and 1330 miles. Huge smiles on our faces!  This
morning at Oh Dark Thirty we departed Colby, KS and arrived in Topeka at
Bobo's old fashioned hamburger stand a few minutes past noon. Mike Osipik
and Mac Humphries from the Kansas City Austin Healey Club arrived moments
later. We hooked the trailer up to Mac's vehicle and performed a little
surgery on the Chinky crap trailer tail light to get it working. Then we
enjoyed terrific cheese burgers at Bobo's. These things are hand made
patties and come wrapped in plain white paper like they used to do!!  I
skipped the homemade onion rings and after the others bragged on theirs I
was kicking myself.

About 1:30 pm, Mike and Mac took off for Kansas City with the Holy Sprite as
we waved farewell to our little chum of the past two days! The trailer is
doing just fine though we kept the speed at about 60 mph on the Interstate
just to be safe. Aside from the fratzed tail light which was due entirely to
shoddy engineering and construction, the only casualty we experienced in 650
miles from west Denver to Topeka was a tie-down strap which rubbed up
against something sharp and broke. No sweat - I put another strap on and off
we went.

Over lunch we discussed the extra heavy load and Mike decided to ask the
Kansas City AHC to yank the lump at their tech session meeting tonight. I
see from his email that they have done that and will leave Wednesday morning
for St. Louis with the rolling Holy Sprite on the trailer and the engine and
tranny in the back of Mike's Land Cruiser.

Finally, I posted up a few of the pictures we took along the way and in the
severe thunderstorms last night on Larry Macy's website. I also have some
AVI videos that I took and I'll put those up somewhere tomorrow and give
everyone the URL....
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim & Carolyn

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 13 02:58:53 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:58:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Odessy Continues!
References: <43840a7e0808122144p35c9d4f8u26ca153d05681da7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <31F451D3AE2B47A6AF72ED14F6BA12DD@midget>

Trish and I are now up and getting ready to depart for our appointed turn as 
guardians of the Holy Spirite. It is 4ayem in Chicagoland and I have not had 
the courage to check the weather yet. Wish us luck!
David Lieb 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 04:08:25 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:08:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Common Tools Explained
In-Reply-To: <48A1F149.8000606@verizon.net>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<48A1F149.8000606@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430808130308h72a274cfu833b5ac57bee1772@mail.gmail.com>

Chuck,
Thanks very funny, I liked *"Pliers:* Used to round off bolt heads"
and "*Battery
electrolyte tester:* A handy tool for transferring sulfuric acid from a car
battery to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your battery is
dead as a doornail, just as you thought"......grin.
Linda

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 4:23 PM, chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:

> Because so many of y'all do not see the MG BBS web sites:
>
> http://woodbutcher.net/tools.shtml
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 04:12:32 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:12:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new Mini Clubman Rickshaw
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F350F4B5C8593BABA2C5037B8700@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F350F4B5C8593BABA2C5037B8700@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430808130312g44f7ed73ic3b175bdf154b8ea@mail.gmail.com>

That is frightening ..... : )
Lin

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Strange but true ...
> http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9245120
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 04:24:17 2008
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:24:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] removing a broken stud
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP17C92F89DE2FCD0418F393B8770@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430808130324y722a5a42k2935e6dffc833c84@mail.gmail.com>

Robert,
Nice site : )
Lin

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> wrote:

> My memory fails me, but someone here was having problems removing a broken
> stud ( from a seat belt rear well hump? ) and I passed on what someone once
> told me, though I had never tried it.  The restorer suggested welding a
> bead
> on the end of the stud, wait a bit, weld a bead on the end of the bead,
> etc,
> until you had something that you could get vise grips onto.  Then screw it
> out.  The heat and cool recycling should have freed it up if it was seized.
> Here's a similar idea shown in a how-to video.
>
>
>
> http://www.expertvillage.com/video/11073_mig-welding-remove-broken-stud.htm
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 13 06:16:47 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:16:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <29933165.1218629807526.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I'm with you.  I love Spridgets and Spridget-powered Sevens.  I would not own a big Healey.  I think that Spridgets simply have excellent handling and gearing to run gymkhanas.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 4:10 PM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>, Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>> This kinda reminds me of the argument that you can shrink a race track to 
>> the point that only a Go-kart can get round it .  Spridgets do very well 
>> when the advantage is in their favor.
>
>We used to bring the cones to the track in a trailer behind a big old Caddy 
>and run the Caddy through the course once it was laid out so that no one 
>could complain that their car did not fit. I will admit that this course was 
>a bit biased in favor of Spridgets, but I will be darned if I can figure out 
>quite how. There was no place where a large car would not fit. FTD was a BMW 
>M3. It was one of the first tracks, however, where I really wasn't wishing 
>that there was twice the HP under my right foot. OTOH, I have NEVER driven 
>an autocross course where Spridgets did not have the advantage over MGBs and 
>Heavey Healeys.
>That was the point I was trying to make somewhat obtusely before; the MGBs 
>and Heavey Healeys have to resort to talking down at the Spridgets to hide 
>the fact that the Spridget really is a better-handling car.
>David Lieb 
>


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From flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 13 06:22:43 2008
From: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com (John Gosselin)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
Message-ID: <726141.67264.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Could someone post the link for the holy sprite pix so those of us out of the
loop can enjoy!
 
Thanks Goss in NH
 
1974 midget

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Aug 13 06:45:16 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:45:16 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite...
Message-ID: <bf1.354ab9de.35d4315c@aol.com>

An interesting car but I wonder what the top speed is with a 3.7 on an auto  
box.  Is top on the auto box 1 to 1 and if so what is the max rpm of the  v6?  
I'd guess anyone whose motor will run to 7.5K on a 4 speed with a 3.9  rear 
will have a higher top speed.
 
Looks to have had a heavy crash and the owner's last heart in the  project.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 13/08/2008 05:40:22 GMT Daylight Time, tinydog at snet.net  
writes:

ebay  #150280636006

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 13 06:52:43 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:52:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
Message-ID: <13482166.1218631963925.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Oh Geeesh!  Good one though ;^).

-----Original Message-----
>From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
>Sent: Aug 12, 2008 7:44 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
>
>Mike C wrote:
>> A car is an inanimate object.  You all kill me ;^)).
>
>Shhhh. Cars hate when people say that.
>
>-- 
>Kent McLean
>'56 100 BN2


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 13 08:43:22 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:43:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <081320080439.18583.48A2659B000A12F30000489722230704929B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F4083725E8DF3064DA8ADEDB8730@phx.gbl>

It does look well tweaked, doesn't it?

----Original Message Follows----

  tinydog sez:

parts car

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 > ebay #150280636006

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 09:21:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:21:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
In-Reply-To: <726141.67264.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <726141.67264.qm@web44809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808130821x1724547fie14e2c695af4c5e@mail.gmail.com>

http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141

Enjoy!!  The Kansas City AHC pulled the engine and tranny last night...
Pics of that will be up shortly!

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM, John Gosselin <flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Could someone post the link for the holy sprite pix so those of us out of
> the
> loop can enjoy!
>
> Thanks Goss in NH
>
> 1974 midget
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Aug 13 09:28:10 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:28:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite...
In-Reply-To: <bf1.354ab9de.35d4315c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20080813152755.B3C47187867@autox.team.net>

Looks to me like he tried to drive it around a corner, with little luck. I
wasn't anywhere near there and if you don't got pictures you can't prove it.
		Crash (I prefer the term gravitationally challenged) 


Looks to have had a heavy crash 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 13/08/2008 05:40:22 GMT Daylight Time, tinydog at snet.net  
writes:

ebay  #150280636006
_______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 13 09:38:08 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 10:38:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>

You need to be careful when saying the Spridgets are better suited to 
autocross than many larger, more powerful cars like Enzos, Cobras and even 
MGBs and big Healeys.  That's not always so.  Back in the 70's I ran several 
Solo 1 events at Blackhawk that were nearly wide open around the track. 
Sorry, but many of the mentioned cars would eat a Spridget for lunch on 
those courses.

The Spridgets may have an advantage on low-speed tight cornered autocross 
courses, but certainly not on the big, fast courses.

LAD

From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Wed Aug 13 12:33:37 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:33:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
Message-ID: <be7.33fb0de5.35d48301@aol.com>

Nice pics, 'course the steering wheel is the wrong side of the car but I  
guess Frank can fix that.
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 13/08/2008 16:22:05 GMT Daylight Time,  bmwwxman at gmail.com 
writes:

http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 13:42:38 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:42:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10808131242k8f37359nac5b3e9f3b1ffe01@mail.gmail.com>

Is anyone running 7/8" MC with disc?

No reason it shouldn't work, right.  May increase pedal sensitivity, require
less exerted force.

How's about the other-way-around...3/4" with drum?

TIA,

Herb

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Aug 13 14:45:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:45:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEKHCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Those cars, however, were RHD CKD units and were NOT shipped to the USA.>>

I just replied to the fellow as follows<G>:
<quote>
Actually YOU should "read a little bit" as you mention NOTHING about the car
being originally shipped & assembled in Australia nor do you mention
(I re-read the auction description) that it has been converted from RHD to
LHD!?!?!  If all the above should be changed in the ad AND you have
B.M.I.H.T. Certificate stating it IS a CKD car, then a] it is indeed 'rare'
b] the V.I.N. IS WRONG.

So which is it???

Ed
</quote>

"Wonder" if he will reply<VBG>?!?!?  HeeHee.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 13:47:15 2008
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:47:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
In-Reply-To: <be7.33fb0de5.35d48301@aol.com>
References: <be7.33fb0de5.35d48301@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10808131247y5784cfd9x4da8158a41b9c2cd@mail.gmail.com>

...he'll enlist the Chinese...they'll want a 'gold medal'.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:33 AM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> Nice pics, 'course the steering wheel is the wrong side of the car but I
> guess Frank can fix that.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 13:48:02 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:48:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "This is a highly modified 1961 Austin Healy (Bug
 Eye) Sprite. One of 39 built in 1961". check ebay #150280636006
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEKHCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <5194EC51996A467BBCEF882828070AA0@midget>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEKHCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808131248y59adada8h1f3ee922324f1f34@mail.gmail.com>

He'll probably turn you in to eBay, for harassing him.
OH, did you ask him about any paint overspray???

LOL

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> <<Those cars, however, were RHD CKD units and were NOT shipped to the
> USA.>>
>
> I just replied to the fellow as follows<G>:
> <quote>
> Actually YOU should "read a little bit" as you mention NOTHING about the
> car
> being originally shipped & assembled in Australia nor do you mention
> (I re-read the auction description) that it has been converted from RHD to
> LHD!?!?!  If all the above should be changed in the ad AND you have
> B.M.I.H.T. Certificate stating it IS a CKD car, then a] it is indeed 'rare'
> b] the V.I.N. IS WRONG.
>
> So which is it???
>
> Ed
> </quote>
>
> "Wonder" if he will reply<VBG>?!?!?  HeeHee.
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From daredelvis at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 13:49:25 2008
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:49:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10808131242k8f37359nac5b3e9f3b1ffe01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10808131242k8f37359nac5b3e9f3b1ffe01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <531383560808131249i1dc9d38dw56cf8a4b26821903@mail.gmail.com>

I have drums with a 3/4" MC right now.  I am getting a little too much pedal
travel for my tastes, but I have not had a chance to run it yet and really
get the shoes set.  At the rate I am moving on this project I will probably
have my disc setup on by the time  I take it out for a test drive.

Brian

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone running 7/8" MC with disc?
>
> No reason it shouldn't work, right.  May increase pedal sensitivity,
> require
> less exerted force.
>
> How's about the other-way-around...3/4" with drum?
>
> TIA,
>
> Herb
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 15:53:38 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:53:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] carb question
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0808131453u26090bd1s2974eadc24f689dc@mail.gmail.com>

My '73 Midget has been fitted by a previous owner with a DellOrto DHLA 40G
carb on a Cannon 805 intake.

It's running rich and has an occasional drip from the carb so I've been
trying to find a rebuild kit but no one around my area has heard of the carb
or been able to locate a rebuild kit.  Google wasn't much help either but I
did finally find a drawing showing which screw is the mixture adjustment
(haven't tried tweaking it just yet figuring it really needs a rebuild
anyway).

Have any of you got pointers to someone who might be able to help, or should
I just dump this and try to find an original intake with SU carbs?

From ah53 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 13 16:08:01 2008
From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <531383560808131249i1dc9d38dw56cf8a4b26821903@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97419.9895.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Brian

  This site has a good explanation of the differences between drum brake
master cylinders and disc brake ones.  
htmhttp://www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm

Joe

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, brian james <daredelvis at gmail.com> wrote:
From: brian james <daredelvis at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
To: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 3:49 PM

I have drums with a 3/4" MC right now.  I am getting a little too much
pedal
travel for my tastes, but I have not had a chance to run it yet and really
get the shoes set.  At the rate I am moving on this project I will probably
have my disc setup on by the time  I take it out for a test drive.

Brian

On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 2:42 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is anyone running 7/8" MC with disc?
>
> No reason it shouldn't work, right.  May increase pedal sensitivity,
> require
> less exerted force.
>
> How's about the other-way-around...3/4" with drum?
>
> TIA,
>
> Herb
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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Aug 13 16:11:52 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:11:52 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] carb question
References: <8de85a9c0808131453u26090bd1s2974eadc24f689dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74CC5613D63B492586CA4668CFEED574@TAIRS>

All of the DellOrtos I've come across are gas guzzlers that may be good for
competition but not too good for street use unless towing a fuel bowser
behind.  However, some people obviously do like them.
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/dhla-parts.pdf

http://hometown.aol.com/dvandrews/dellorto.htm


stores.ebay.com.au/GEM-PARTS-AUSTRALIA_CARBURETTOR-REBUILD-KITS_W0QQcolZ4QQdi
rZ1QQfsubZ8QQftidZ2QQtZkm


Good luck

Guy R Day




----- Original Message -----
From: "Jethro (JFoster)" <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] carb question


> My '73 Midget has been fitted by a previous owner with a DellOrto DHLA 40G
> carb on a Cannon 805 intake.
>
> It's running rich and has an occasional drip from the carb so I've been
> trying to find a rebuild kit but no one around my area has heard of the
carb
> or been able to locate a rebuild kit.  Google wasn't much help either but I
> did finally find a drawing showing which screw is the mixture adjustment
> (haven't tried tweaking it just yet figuring it really needs a rebuild
> anyway).
>
> Have any of you got pointers to someone who might be able to help, or
should
> I just dump this and try to find an original intake with SU carbs?
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug 13 16:26:53 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:26:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <97419.9895.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4C8ADBD.18FCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'm taking a survey.
How many of you believe this to be true?
> The area of the 7/8" piston is about 36% greater than the area of the 3/4"
> piston. This means that the pedal effort required for clutch and brake
> operation is 36% higher with the larger cylinder. It also means that clutch
> slave piston travel is 36% greater. The increase in required pedal effort
> constitutes a significant safety and drivability issue, and the increased
> slave piston travel can cause mechanical problems with the clutch linkage.
> www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 16:49:20 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:49:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Shades of BusterCluster 2006
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808131549j12a807c8o705d3cc8c9df2857@mail.gmail.com>

Okay - What's the story on the dead cats and who's picking up the HS from
David & Trish??
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 13 16:49:29 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808130821x1724547fie14e2c695af4c5e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <263819.29124.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wicked cool, guys!


--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Photos
> To: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Yahoo Spridget list" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:21 AM
> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
> 
> Enjoy!!  The Kansas City AHC pulled the engine and tranny
> last night...
> Pics of that will be up shortly!
> 
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:22 AM, John Gosselin
> <flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
> > Could someone post the link for the holy sprite pix so
> those of us out of
> > the
> > loop can enjoy!
> >
> > Thanks Goss in NH
> >
> > 1974 midget
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> 
> 
> -- 
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> Jim
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Aug 13 18:17:04 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:17:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling water leak
In-Reply-To: <g7skij+uj0i@eGroups.com>
References: <g7skij+uj0i@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <41687414DB7B4E9CBBF335CA9DFB90B2@Home>

I have clean cooling water dripping from the timing cover.  There is evidence of previous dripping from the water pump, but now it is dry, and there is no evidence of any water travelling from above.  Is this necessarily a blown head gasket or cracked block?  The engine is running very smoothly, even quietly now that I have the exhaust system completed.  

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 13 18:07:38 2008
From: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com (John Gosselin)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] photos
Message-ID: <162721.76657.qm@web44811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thank you so much for posting the website for the holy sprite project.  What 
a thrill to see the postings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Goss in NH
 
1974 mg midget
 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 13 18:45:32 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:45:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling water leak
In-Reply-To: <41687414DB7B4E9CBBF335CA9DFB90B2@Home>
Message-ID: <51704.26287.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> I have clean cooling water dripping from the timing cover.

Heater bypass hose? Another place to look is in the head right where the t'stat sits. A-Series heads commonly had casting cracks there that got overlooked by the stringent quality inspectors. Remove the t'stat and look straight down. If it's big enough to leak, you'll see it.

Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 13 19:52:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:52:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10808131242k8f37359nac5b3e9f3b1ffe01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10808131242k8f37359nac5b3e9f3b1ffe01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48A38FDC.5090608@comcast.net>

WFO Herb wrote:
> Is anyone running 7/8" MC with disc?
>
> No reason it shouldn't work, right.  May increase pedal sensitivity, require
> less exerted force.
>
>   
It does work, it does take a little (hardly noticable) more effort with 
the 7/8 but what I found out is the rear bugeye drum set up with disc 
fronts makes the back lock up with the front, like just before or at the 
same time.
It works fine until you have to make a panic stop. Then the rear end 
swings around to meet the front.
I do not have any scientific proof of this but when I was running a 7/8 
master it happened to me twice.
Never happened with the 3/4 master and later rear drum set up.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 20:22:49 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:22:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update and Plea!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808131922p182330d9tb56aafd3fa1da855@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

The Holy Sprite continues its eastward trek. I talked with Mike Osipik this
afternoon and they were on their way home in Kansas City after dropping off
the Holy Sprite with David Lieb and Trish Finn in the St. Louis area. As you
can see in the pictures <http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141> the Kansas City
Healey Club pulled the engine and tranny last night at their monthly
meeting. Lee Fox now has the lump as David and Trish head for Indianapolis
to meet John Kuzman for the next leg!  I've put a link to the picture
gallery on the page at <
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html> and will add a
link from the Sprite - Midget Club home page at <
http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>

I also talked with Frank again tonight to try to help fill in the condition
of the car. It is actually in pretty good shape compared to a lot of the
rust heaps we've all seen!  We do need to find a grill for it though. Who's
got a spare grill hanging around?  We can polish it up...

Also, Frank informs that we still have a ways to go on financial donations
in order to buy the needed parts that we can't cannibalize. Remember, you
can get a once in a lifetime "Holy Sprite" T-shirt for a $50 donation to the
cause. Either print the form at: <
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/help.pdf> and mail it, or send
your $50 donation for Father Jack's Sprite to Frank's PayPal at
Spritenut at comcast.net.

Keep those cards and letters comin' in, folks!!   ;-)
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 13 21:10:37 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:10:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Photos
In-Reply-To: <263819.29124.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e0808130821x1724547fie14e2c695af4c5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<263819.29124.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808132010u1ef32e1cld9a33a041a967431@mail.gmail.com>

Nice Miata.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 13 21:26:43 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:26:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Common Tools Explained
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<48A1F149.8000606@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <833D8B72B4D24DA48CBF4FC898A090C1@blackbox2>

On a similiar note...
http://www.buickperformance.com/yardterm.htm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "chuck" <cciaffone at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Common Tools Explained


> Because so many of y'all do not see the MG BBS web sites:
> 
> http://woodbutcher.net/tools.shtml

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 13 23:26:05 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:26:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
Message-ID: <48A35F7D.25373.4CA5A4@dmg.bossig.com>

I have the 1275 (12CC DAH) in 'The Beast' running reasonably well... with an 
irritating minor problem   ;^(
If I start the engine every day the problem doesn't happen...
But if I wait for 4 or 5 days and then start it, it blows smoke ( blue smoke - oil) quite a 
lot until it gets up to temperature -- about 5-7 minutes (temp here is hanging arounf 
100F.
However, once it gets hot, the problem goes away.
I have measured 125+ psi in all cylinders when cold -- no oil put in plug holes.
Cam timing, dizzy timing, valve lash, carb mixture are all set to spec. 
Good color on spark plugs no black flecks from exhaust.
No oil in water, no water in oil.
Oil Cold idle is 50 psi, Hot idle is 35 psi
Water temp sits just below the "N" mark - but this is not the original dual guage... it is 
one I had spare from when I had my Jag MK IX
I do have a set of Viton valve stem seals that I can fit if this is a possible source of 
the problem.
Suggestions for a possible problem solution - on or off list - will be welcomed

TIA...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 13 23:36:42 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:36:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...
Message-ID: <48A361FA.28098.565EF6@dmg.bossig.com>

I don't know the source of my speedometer but the tach is working...
I'm running the 4.2 rear end, ribcage box and 13" 175/80 tires on wire 
wheels....
What RPM should I see at 35, 55 and 70 mph.
I'd like to avoid any concversatios with the boys in blue when I try a test run 
on the towns' roads later this month..

Thanks...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 00:10:18 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:10:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <C4C8ADBD.18FCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4C8ADBD.18FCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <ACB99664-25D6-4095-B4EB-6A05BB744D91@mac.com>

For my two cents I think there are several errors here.  Assuming the  
same size brake line, which for us is normal, the 7/8 piston is  
attempting to push more fluid through the line for an equal piston  
travel which I think means that the line pressure goes up - - - Frank  
locking up his rear wheels ? ? ?  The pedal pressure probably goes up  
for the same reason.  The salve piston is mechanically limited so its  
travel can not change, it just has more pressure being applied.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 13, 2008, at 3:26 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

> I'm taking a survey.
> How many of you believe this to be true?
>> The area of the 7/8" piston is about 36% greater than the area of  
>> the 3/4"
>> piston. This means that the pedal effort required for clutch and  
>> brake
>> operation is 36% higher with the larger cylinder. It also means  
>> that clutch
>> slave piston travel is 36% greater. The increase in required pedal  
>> effort
>> constitutes a significant safety and drivability issue, and the  
>> increased
>> slave piston travel can cause mechanical problems with the clutch  
>> linkage.
>> www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 00:16:39 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:16:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>
Message-ID: <22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com>

Back in the old days :-)  the question was "Is it a Sprite course or  
a Corvette course?"

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 13, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> You need to be careful when saying the Spridgets are better suited to
> autocross than many larger, more powerful cars like Enzos, Cobras  
> and even
> MGBs and big Healeys.  That's not always so.  Back in the 70's I  
> ran several
> Solo 1 events at Blackhawk that were nearly wide open around the  
> track.
> Sorry, but many of the mentioned cars would eat a Spridget for  
> lunch on
> those courses.
>
> The Spridgets may have an advantage on low-speed tight cornered  
> autocross
> courses, but certainly not on the big, fast courses.
>
> LAD
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Aug 14 00:46:27 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:46:27 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
In-Reply-To: <C4C8ADBD.18FCD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5CAB0AFC6BC9416786AEEB563B2A15CC@GuyLaptop>

Thought process starts at the wrong end!
The amount of fluid moved depends not on the MC but on the distance needed
to take up the slack at the shoes / pads. Changing to a 7/8 MC doesn't
effect that (but changing to front discs does)
As the piston in the larger MC moves more fluid the pedal travel is reduced
to achieve the same braking effect. Less likely that the pedal will reach
the floor before you achieve maximum braking! But the extra effort needed is
very small, hardly noticeable, especially when braking hard in an emergency
which makes it easier to lock the rear wheels.

Clutch overthrow and damage to the pressure plate can be a problem with
mis-matched components. Certainly on the later cars with separate clutch
cylinder matching a larger bore MC with an earlier, smaller bore SC, can
cause clutch overthrow.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: 13 August 2008 23:27
To: ah53 at yahoo.com; WFO Herb; brian james
Cc: Spridgeteers
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC


I'm taking a survey.
How many of you believe this to be true?
> The area of the 7/8" piston is about 36% greater than the area of the 3/4"
> piston. This means that the pedal effort required for clutch and brake
> operation is 36% higher with the larger cylinder. It also means that
clutch
> slave piston travel is 36% greater. The increase in required pedal effort
> constitutes a significant safety and drivability issue, and the increased
> slave piston travel can cause mechanical problems with the clutch linkage.
> www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 14 05:46:09 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:46:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <48A35F7D.25373.4CA5A4@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48A35F7D.25373.4CA5A4@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <006501c8fe03$596d4730$d41cf304@spider>

I'll guess it is oil running down the valve stems into the engine. ...bill

=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:26 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice

I have the 1275 (12CC DAH) in 'The Beast' running reasonably well... with an

irritating minor problem   ;^(
If I start the engine every day the problem doesn't happen...
But if I wait for 4 or 5 days and then start it, it blows smoke ( blue smoke
- oil) quite a 
lot until it gets up to temperature -- about 5-7 minutes (temp here is
hanging arounf 
100F.
However, once it gets hot, the problem goes away.
I have measured 125+ psi in all cylinders when cold -- no oil put in plug
holes.
Cam timing, dizzy timing, valve lash, carb mixture are all set to spec. 
Good color on spark plugs no black flecks from exhaust.
No oil in water, no water in oil.
Oil Cold idle is 50 psi, Hot idle is 35 psi
Water temp sits just below the "N" mark - but this is not the original dual
guage... it is 
one I had spare from when I had my Jag MK IX
I do have a set of Viton valve stem seals that I can fit if this is a
possible source of 
the problem.
Suggestions for a possible problem solution - on or off list - will be
welcomed

TIA...

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 14 06:33:53 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:33:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov><307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>
	<22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com>
Message-ID: <2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>

> Back in the old days :-)  the question was "Is it a Sprite course or
> a Corvette course?"

Musta bin bout '93 when the local Corvette club was celebrating 40 years of 
Vettes. They rented out the asphault track at Lake Geneva, WI and invited 
the Miata club to come up and play. Part of the event was an autocross 
course that they laid out on the track so that they could impress the Miatas 
with how well a "real" car could handle. Unfortunately, the second half of 
the course amounted to a high-speed run with a tight gate at the end. Turned 
out that the Vettes had to almost stop for the gate, but the Miatas never 
lifted. The slowest Miata was faster than the fastest Vette on the course. 
The Miatas never got another invitation from the Corvette club...
David Lieb 

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Thu Aug 14 07:11:27 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update posted at BCF.
Message-ID: <8c1781040808140611n7d75a45bvc2f3b66b8e490a39@mail.gmail.com>

>From John Kuzman:

Well, Holy Sprite is resting comfortably in my garage in Southwest
Ohio. I thought I had better back it into the garage last night for
fear of hearing the neighbors saying, "Good Lord, he got another one!"

It was great to see David and Trish again. Last saw them at LotO. Of
course, it should come as no surprise that barefoot David and Trish
towed the Holy Sprite from just west of St. Louis to south of
Indianapolis with a Miata!

David and I carefully plotted a meeting place which would avoid Indy
rush hour traffic, only to have a road closure when we were about 5
miles apart. After a slight detour, we met up near Bluff Creek, IN
about 6:15 pm.

David is taking the tires and wheels from Holy Sprite, so when the
tires were taken off the front of the trailer (and with the 1500
gone), the trailer was back heavy. We moved Holy Sprite forward on the
trailer about 6 in. and all was well. Towed great at 58-62 mph.

About 2 hours into my return trip, David called my cell to inform me
that he still had the safety pin for the trailer latch! I will replace
that today. I need to also add an extension to the flat 4 plug. All
trailer lights worked fine when I left David and Trish, but a passerby
informed me that the lights were out. The first right-hand turn pulled
the plug out. Easy fix.

We will be heading out of the West Chester, Ohio area Friday around
noon and will meet up with Bud in Cambridge, UK!!! Nope, that's
Cambridge, Ohio. After that, just a trip across the Keystone State and
on to Frank's for an extreme makeover.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 14 07:59:37 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:59:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite Midwest Pilgrimage
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov><307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry><22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com>
	<2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>
Message-ID: <BD1ED2BE899542EA8AA26E2D0C385301@midget>

A few more pictures are being added to http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
as we type. The Holy Spirite seemed to enjoy tailgating a Miata across 
chunks of Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana. Since it could see over the top 
of the topless Miata, the view was gretly improved over the ass-end of the 
trucks that it had had to follow previously (and subsequently). We did 
stiffen the rear shocks of the Yada a bit to enhance stability... nice 
having tunable autocross shox for towing ;-)

The unholy lump was exorcised completely in St Louis and went home with Lee 
Fox. The Tires of Temptation came home with me on a Tire Tail. By that time, 
the tongue weight on the trailer was negative, so a position adjustment was 
necessary. There was a bit of a cat infestation, but it seems to be under 
control for the nonce...

We are just glad that the 19 hours of driving were in a Miata!
David Lieb and Trish Finn 

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 14 06:19:15 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 05:19:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Update-Hello From Ohio
Message-ID: <850061.99030.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Well, Holt Sprite is resting comfortably in my garage in Southwest Ohio. I
thought I had better back it into the garage last night for fear of hearing
the neighbors saying, "Good Lord, he got another one!"  
It was great to see David and Trish again. Last saw them at LotO. Of course,
it should come as no surprise that barefoot David and Trish towed the Holy
Sprite from just west of St. Louis to south of Indianapolis with a Miata!
David and I carefully plotted a meeting place which would avoid Indy rush hour
traffic, only to have a road closure when we were about 5 miles apart. After a
slight detour, we met up near Bluff Creek, IN about 6:15 pm.
David is taking the tires from Holy Sprite, so when the tires were taken off
the front of the trailer (and with the 1500 gone), the trailer was back heavy.
We moved Holy Sprite forward on the trailer about 6 in. and all was well.
Towed great at 58-62 mph. About 2 hours into my return trip, David called my
cell to inform me that he still had the safety pin for the trailer latch! I
will replace that today. I need to also add an extension to the flat 4 plug.
All trailer lights worked fine when I left David and Trish, but a passerby
informed me that the lights were out. The first right-hand turn pulled the
plug out. Easy fix. 
We will be heading out of the West Chester, Ohio area Friday around noon and
will meet up with Bud in Cambridge, UK!!!  Nope, that's Cambridge, Ohio. After
that, just a trip across the Keystone State and on to Frank's for an extreme
makeover.
John Kuzman

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Aug 14 09:16:45 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:16:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Philly MG Club's October show announcement
References: <3C0016C2-9121-4B52-B5BC-4AD8F552BDBB@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <ACFB70E5-2E77-4AC9-9217-12BEAD80B3DA@phillymgclub.com>

For your reading pleasure

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for, It's for communicating.with
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

> October 11, 2008 b" "Brits at the Village" hosted by The Philly MG Cl
> ub, Inc.
> After Hosting a very successful MG 2008 National Convention we now
> are presenting our Twelfth Annual All British Car & Bike Show at
> Peddler's Village in Lahaska PA.
> This is a Popular Vote Awards Show, Classes are determined by pre-
> registration. Dash plaques to the first 150 cars/bikes. A special
> award to the Club that have the most pre-registered, so make this
> one of your Clubs Event in October. Pre-registration $12.00 by Sept
> 20th. $20.00 reg. fee day of show. For more info. and registration
> forms: <www.phillyMGclub.com> or call Bill 215.932.0295 or Steve
215.275.7960
> _______________________________________________________________________


>
> I had it added to the Event Listings to the following:
> b" LBC website Events
> b" MG Enthusiast website Events
> b" NAMGBR Events
> b" AMGBA Events
> b" MGC Register
> b" Hemmings website Events
>
> Thanks,
> BILL

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 10:20:30 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:20:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>
	<22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com>
	<2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>
Message-ID: <1A1C3ACF-A796-47BD-8C58-4DDBA4061A8C@mac.com>

Thats for certain.  The Miata's performance surprises a lot of folks  
including the BMW Z3 in 2000.  It has been my felling  that the Miata  
is where Donald would have taken his cars today.

Didn't you exceed the towing limit for the Miata with the Holy Sprite.

Got company got to go.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:33 AM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Back in the old days :-)  the question was "Is it a Sprite course or
>> a Corvette course?"
>
> Musta bin bout '93 when the local Corvette club was celebrating 40  
> years of Vettes. They rented out the asphault track at Lake Geneva,  
> WI and invited the Miata club to come up and play. Part of the  
> event was an autocross course that they laid out on the track so  
> that they could impress the Miatas with how well a "real" car could  
> handle. Unfortunately, the second half of the course amounted to a  
> high-speed run with a tight gate at the end. Turned out that the  
> Vettes had to almost stop for the gate, but the Miatas never  
> lifted. The slowest Miata was faster than the fastest Vette on the  
> course. The Miatas never got another invitation from the Corvette  
> club...
> David Lieb

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Aug 14 10:51:34 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:51:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
Message-ID: <3553601c8fe2e$02490630$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>

What he said! :)
 
I have a Tercel that had the same problem. New valve stem seals cured
it. 
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [corvallis at peoplepc.com]
Sent: 8/14/2008 7:45:09 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice 

I'll guess it is oil running down the valve stems into the engine.
...bill 

======================================================= 
-----Original Message----- 
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net 
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf 
Of Dave G. 
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:26 PM 
To: spridgets 
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice 

I have the 1275 (12CC DAH) in 'The Beast' running reasonably well...
with an 

irritating minor problem ;^( 
If I start the engine every day the problem doesn't happen... 
But if I wait for 4 or 5 days and then start it, it blows smoke ( blue
smoke 
- oil) quite a 
lot until it gets up to temperature -- about 5-7 minutes (temp here is 
hanging arounf 
100F. 
However, once it gets hot, the problem goes away. 
I have measured 125+ psi in all cylinders when cold -- no oil put in
plug 
holes. 
Cam timing, dizzy timing, valve lash, carb mixture are all set to spec. 
Good color on spark plugs no black flecks from exhaust. 
No oil in water, no water in oil. 
Oil Cold idle is 50 psi, Hot idle is 35 psi 
Water temp sits just below the "N" mark - but this is not the original
dual 
guage... it is 
one I had spare from when I had my Jag MK IX 
I do have a set of Viton valve stem seals that I can fit if this is a 
possible source of 
the problem. 
Suggestions for a possible problem solution - on or off list - will be 
welcomed 

TIA... 
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 14 11:01:02 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:01:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net><D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov><307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry><22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com><2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>
	<1A1C3ACF-A796-47BD-8C58-4DDBA4061A8C@mac.com>
Message-ID: <5E4A6DF9C45B4ECC9694C78A2A8AECA3@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Didn't you exceed the towing limit for the Miata with the Holy Sprite.

I carefully did NOT look that up before we left. Tongue weight was certainly 
in spec, and I don't think, once the unholy lump was exorcised, that the 
load was excessive. Ariel did not complain at all, although fuel mileage was 
definitely short of miraculous.
David Lieb 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Aug 14 11:24:21 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:24:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <3553601c8fe2e$02490630$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <3553601c8fe2e$02490630$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <48A46A45.4010604@frontiernet.net>

Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no 
smoking signs would help.
>  asking for smoking Engne advice 

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Thu Aug 14 11:32:51 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:32:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <48A46A45.4010604@frontiernet.net>
References: <3553601c8fe2e$02490630$0d6a010a@mail2world.com>
	<48A46A45.4010604@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <2996.164.58.184.10.1218735171.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll your
engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well do
they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.

Charlie

> Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no
> smoking signs would help.
>>  asking for smoking Engne advice

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 12:09:09 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:09:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] From Father Jack (Holy Sprite)
Message-ID: <48A474C5.50706@comcast.net>

Dear Spridgeteers,
I just stopped at Frank Clarici's house to inquire about the California 
Bugeye only to learn that the California Bugeye
is now an Ohio Bugeye.
If you only knew me you would be calling the project an unholy Sprite.
Frank is sworn to secrecy.
I am really touched by what everybody has been doing.
Who am I to have such friends?

God bless you all
Fr. Jack

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 14 12:23:33 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:23:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <2996.164.58.184.10.1218735171.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F401B9D0A0E3EA6BFD6CCD8B8720@phx.gbl>

I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.  It's a 
pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.  
Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.

Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I rolled 
my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.

----Original Message Follows----
From: shelden3 at pldi.net

I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll your
engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well do
they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.

Charlie

 > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no
 > smoking signs would help.
 >>  asking for smoking Engne advice

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 12:31:07 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:31:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack
Message-ID: <48A479EB.3080409@comcast.net>

Fr Jack just stopped by.
He reminded me of a little kid who just saw his first 2 wheel bicycle on 
Christmas Morning he was that excited.
He wrote a note to the list and will be here  for it's arrival when 
Kevin brings the Holy Sprite  to my house on 8/24.
As he was leaving he had to go out to the garage to "drool" over the 
engine that will be going into his Holy Sprite.
It is all painted and ready to drop in and looks pretty sitting on the 
floor.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Thu Aug 14 12:37:32 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:37:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F401B9D0A0E3EA6BFD6CCD8B8720@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F401B9D0A0E3EA6BFD6CCD8B8720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3213.164.58.184.10.1218739052.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

I wonder if one could possibly dismantle the engine and smoke it in a
hookah?  This would remove any paper products and or needs of accidentally
blowing the err engine shall we say?  Hookah can impart a relaxing and
enjoyable experience with friends.


> I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.  It's a
> pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.
> Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.
>
> Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I
> rolled
> my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: shelden3 at pldi.net
>
> I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll your
> engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well do
> they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.
>
> Charlie
>
>  > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no
>  > smoking signs would help.
>  >>  asking for smoking Engne advice
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 14 13:09:37 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:09:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <3213.164.58.184.10.1218739052.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>

Pardon my ignorance, but ... that's water cooled, right?


----Original Message Follows----
From: shelden3 at pldi.net

I wonder if one could possibly dismantle the engine and smoke it in a
hookah?  This would remove any paper products and or needs of accidentally
blowing the err engine shall we say?  Hookah can impart a relaxing and
enjoyable experience with friends.


 > I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.  It's a
 > pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.
 > Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.
 >
 > Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I
 > rolled
 > my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 > From: shelden3 at pldi.net
 >
 > I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll your
 > engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well do
 > they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.
 >
 > Charlie
 >
 >  > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no
 >  > smoking signs would help.
 >  >>  asking for smoking Engne advice
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Aug 14 13:17:36 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:17:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>
References: <3213.164.58.184.10.1218739052.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
	<BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <03f501c8fe42$69392af0$1801010a@xp>

I don't even want to know what you and your Sprite did before you started
smoking.

Heard

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Aug 14 13:19:30 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:19:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>
References: <3213.164.58.184.10.1218739052.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
	<BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808141219l16568bbbwf51c369891242bb7@mail.gmail.com>

Only if you choose.......
It "could" be beer cooled, tequila cooled, etc, etc....

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance, but ... that's water cooled, right?
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: shelden3 at pldi.net
>
> I wonder if one could possibly dismantle the engine and smoke it in a
> hookah?  This would remove any paper products and or needs of accidentally
> blowing the err engine shall we say?  Hookah can impart a relaxing and
> enjoyable experience with friends.
>
>
>  > I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.  It's
> a
>  > pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.
>  > Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.
>  >
>  > Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I
>  > rolled
>  > my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: shelden3 at pldi.net
>  >
>  > I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll
> your
>  > engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well do
>  > they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.
>  >
>  > Charlie
>  >
>  >  > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed no
>  >  > smoking signs would help.
>  >  >>  asking for smoking Engne advice
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Thu Aug 14 13:22:13 2008
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:22:13 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808141219l16568bbbwf51c369891242bb7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3213.164.58.184.10.1218739052.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
	<BAY112-F398FF95BF33182A3B0C1DEB8720@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88090808141219l16568bbbwf51c369891242bb7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14917.164.58.184.10.1218741733.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>

Tradional yes, water cooled. We tend to ice it down nicely, sometimes we
use other liquids such as milk, fruit juices, rum, etc....the rums, wines
etc...tend to give me a head ache, milk is good but you really have to
clean things.  So we stick with water.

cs

> Only if you choose.......
> It "could" be beer cooled, tequila cooled, etc, etc....
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Robert Duquette <
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> Pardon my ignorance, but ... that's water cooled, right?
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message Follows----
>> From: shelden3 at pldi.net
>>
>> I wonder if one could possibly dismantle the engine and smoke it in a
>> hookah?  This would remove any paper products and or needs of
>> accidentally
>> blowing the err engine shall we say?  Hookah can impart a relaxing and
>> enjoyable experience with friends.
>>
>>
>>  > I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.
>> It's
>> a
>>  > pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.
>>  > Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.
>>  >
>>  > Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I
>>  > rolled
>>  > my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.
>>  >
>>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>>  > From: shelden3 at pldi.net
>>  >
>>  > I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll
>> your
>>  > engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well
>> do
>>  > they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.
>>  >
>>  > Charlie
>>  >
>>  >  > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed
>> no
>>  >  > smoking signs would help.
>>  >  >>  asking for smoking Engne advice
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 14 13:27:25 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:27:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <14917.164.58.184.10.1218741733.squirrel@mail.pldi.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F4081921A09723FDA2996A3B8720@phx.gbl>

My point was that the engine is already water cooled ...

----Original Message Follows----
From: shelden3 at pldi.net
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
CC: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>, 
spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:22:13 -0500 (CDT)

Tradional yes, water cooled. We tend to ice it down nicely, sometimes we
use other liquids such as milk, fruit juices, rum, etc....the rums, wines
etc...tend to give me a head ache, milk is good but you really have to
clean things.  So we stick with water.

cs

 > Only if you choose.......
 > It "could" be beer cooled, tequila cooled, etc, etc....
 >
 > On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Robert Duquette <
 > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
 >
 >> Pardon my ignorance, but ... that's water cooled, right?
 >>
 >>
 >> ----Original Message Follows----
 >> From: shelden3 at pldi.net
 >>
 >> I wonder if one could possibly dismantle the engine and smoke it in a
 >> hookah?  This would remove any paper products and or needs of
 >> accidentally
 >> blowing the err engine shall we say?  Hookah can impart a relaxing and
 >> enjoyable experience with friends.
 >>
 >>
 >>  > I think that you have misunderstood.  You don't roll it in paper.
 >> It's
 >> a
 >>  > pipe mechanism.  The mouthpiece can be found at the back of the car.
 >>  > Careful to inhale only, ... you wouldn't want to blow up the engine.
 >>  >
 >>  > Rolling the engine can cause headaches.  Maybe I did it wrong when I
 >>  > rolled
 >>  > my 'B engine.  It was attached to the car at the time.
 >>  >
 >>  > ----Original Message Follows----
 >>  > From: shelden3 at pldi.net
 >>  >
 >>  > I just have to ask...but how do you find papers large enough to roll
 >> your
 >>  > engine? And does one filter that or use a non-filter? Then how well
 >> do
 >>  > they burn, once you do get them lit?  Again, just had to ask.
 >>  >
 >>  > Charlie
 >>  >
 >>  >  > Have you tried the patch?  Possibly putting up a few well placed
 >> no
 >>  >  > smoking signs would help.
 >>  >  >>  asking for smoking Engne advice
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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 14 14:01:10 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:01:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <48A430F2.6AEA@ticon.net>
References: <48A430F2.6AEA@ticon.net>
Message-ID: <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>

Well folks,

I asked for it *and* I got it
Answers were varied, some were as follows;
 - What was I doing to the car to make it smoke - erotic connotations ?? 
Hmmmm!!
 - How to inhale the smoke - with and without a Hookah!
 - Use the patch - but where to put it -- DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!!
 - Start it every day - cheapest solution
 - Oil building up in the rocker cover - I can hear oil dribbling into the pan 
when I shut the engie off..
 - replace the valve stem seals - I guess this means draining the coolant 
and pulling the head  ;-((

Looks like I'm stuck with trying the last item, as a first stab...

Thank you all...  ;^))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Thu Aug 14 14:10:54 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:10:54 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <CA5095A859E040CCB444D01DD74020F3@GuyLaptop>

You can replace the valve stem seals without draining coolant and removing
the head. (rope trick)
But it is probably almost as quick to remove the head and you get a chance
to clean up the combustion chambers at the same time.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: 14 August 2008 21:01
To: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice


Well folks,

I asked for it *and* I got it
Answers were varied, some were as follows;
 - What was I doing to the car to make it smoke - erotic connotations ??
Hmmmm!!
 - How to inhale the smoke - with and without a Hookah!
 - Use the patch - but where to put it -- DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!!
 - Start it every day - cheapest solution
 - Oil building up in the rocker cover - I can hear oil dribbling into the
pan
when I shut the engie off..
 - replace the valve stem seals - I guess this means draining the coolant
and pulling the head  ;-((

Looks like I'm stuck with trying the last item, as a first stab...

Thank you all...  ;^))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
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From mikey at b2systems.com  Thu Aug 14 14:23:18 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48A430F2.6AEA@ticon.net> <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48A49436.5030702@b2systems.com>

 Don't know about a Spridget motor but many motors you can replace the 
valve seals withOUT pulling the head. On my Dino, I broke a spark plug, 
welded a air fitting on it, put the plug with air fitting in the bad 
cylinder and put about 80psi. into the cylinder, that kept the valve 
from dropping into the cylinder while I worked on the seal.  Other cars 
I am told you don't even have to do the plug thing.  A friend of mine 
uses rags that he shoves down the spark plug hole when the piston is 
half way down, then he turns the motor over to TDC causing the rags to 
compress and hold the valve in place.  BE CAREFUL with that one so that 
you are in the proper orientation and don't bend open valves.

 Might be worth checking out before pulling the head.

    mike

Dave G. wrote:
> Well folks,
>
> I asked for it *and* I got it
> Answers were varied, some were as follows;
>  - What was I doing to the car to make it smoke - erotic connotations ?? 
> Hmmmm!!
>  - How to inhale the smoke - with and without a Hookah!
>  - Use the patch - but where to put it -- DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!!
>  - Start it every day - cheapest solution
>  - Oil building up in the rocker cover - I can hear oil dribbling into the pan 
> when I shut the engie off..
>  - replace the valve stem seals - I guess this means draining the coolant 
> and pulling the head  ;-((
>
> Looks like I'm stuck with trying the last item, as a first stab...
>
> Thank you all...  ;^))
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>   

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 14:35:43 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s
Message-ID: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>

Since I will be using a MKII Sprite dash in the Holy Sprite for 
simplicity reasons (I know the good Father)
I am installing a MKIII Sprite ignition switch which fits the MKII dash 
hole perfectly, 1 key, on/start.
No start cable, ho funky head lamp/ign switch and since this dash has a 
hole for a headlamp toggle, this works for me.
And him.
I have several ign switches but no keys for them.
I have bought several replacement key tumblers for these ign switches 
but they do not fit, some are close but they fall out when you pull out 
the key.
The catalogs list them from 58-67 and they do not fit any of those years.
So here are the switches I have with no keys,
FP 701
FS 937
FS 942
Or if someone has a spare 65-67 ign switch with a key, that'll work too.
But check your extra key numbers just in case.
I have a bunch of extra keys, none of these #s though

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 14 14:34:49 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:34:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] From Father Jack (Holy Sprite)
In-Reply-To: <48A474C5.50706@comcast.net>
References: <48A474C5.50706@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808141334g552855dev3414c7c2021d6a38@mail.gmail.com>

The guy makes a lifetime of helping, comforting and saving others for no pay
and he wonders why we want to return at least a small portion of that
favor?  If we gave him a new Rolls we'd still be in his debt!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Dear Spridgeteers,
> I just stopped at Frank Clarici's house to inquire about the California
> Bugeye only to learn that the California Bugeye
> is now an Ohio Bugeye.
> If you only knew me you would be calling the project an unholy Sprite.
> Frank is sworn to secrecy.
> I am really touched by what everybody has been doing.
> Who am I to have such friends?
>
> God bless you all
> Fr. Jack
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Jim

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 14 15:40:45 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:40:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s
In-Reply-To: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEOKCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

WHY don't you just ask Pete G. (The Key Guy)?  

Tell him the deal and he would prolly donate, dummy!!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 14 14:46:51 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <CA5095A859E040CCB444D01DD74020F3@GuyLaptop>
References: <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>
	<CA5095A859E040CCB444D01DD74020F3@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808141346y7b615623n916516804e6b06e7@mail.gmail.com>

Agree with Guy...  Pulling the head is not that difficult or time consuming.
Probably wouldn't hurt to replace the head gasket and intake/exhaust gaskets
too. Then you can take the head to good machine shop and have the work done
with a guarantee....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Guy Weller <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>wrote:

> You can replace the valve stem seals without draining coolant and removing
> the head. (rope trick)
> But it is probably almost as quick to remove the head and you get a chance
> to clean up the combustion chambers at the same time.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller <spridgets-bounces%2Bguy.weller>=
> tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Dave G.
> Sent: 14 August 2008 21:01
> To: spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
>
>
> Well folks,
>
> I asked for it *and* I got it
> Answers were varied, some were as follows;
>  - What was I doing to the car to make it smoke - erotic connotations ??
> Hmmmm!!
>  - How to inhale the smoke - with and without a Hookah!
>  - Use the patch - but where to put it -- DON'T ANSWER THAT!!!!
>  - Start it every day - cheapest solution
>  - Oil building up in the rocker cover - I can hear oil dribbling into the
> pan
> when I shut the engie off..
>  - replace the valve stem seals - I guess this means draining the coolant
> and pulling the head  ;-((
>
> Looks like I'm stuck with trying the last item, as a first stab...
>
> Thank you all...  ;^))
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
> You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk
>
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Cheers!!
Jim

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Aug 14 14:55:53 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:55:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
References: <48A430F2.6AEA@ticon.net> <48A42C96.13479.13F5A93@dmg.bossig.com>
	<48A49436.5030702@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <B3A54C3605064CFE8E3E044BB4F0B8A4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Another way is, as as already said, is the rope trick.  Get a few feet of 
fine soft nylon rope smaller in diameter than the plug hole.  Feed it in 
(not all the way, DOH!) and hand turn the engine to push the rope pile up 
against the valves.  Total misuse of a crescent wrench will compress the 
springs enough to get the keepers out and offer a great chance for a home 
lobotomy if the wrench slips.
( I guess you could use a proper tool if you have one)

Glen round-dent-in-forehead Byrns


> I am told you don't even have to do the plug thing.  A friend of mine
> uses rags that he shoves down the spark plug hole when the piston is
> half way down, then he turns the motor over to TDC causing the rags to
> compress and hold the valve in place.  BE CAREFUL with that one so that
> you are in the proper orientation and don't bend open valves.
>
> Might be worth checking out before pulling the head.
>
>    mike

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 14 15:02:16 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:02:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s
In-Reply-To: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>
References: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48A43AE8.29922.1774C3B@dmg.bossig.com>

Frank,

I have a ignition switch and a key (only one key) that I can pull from my 
spare dashboard...
If you want it just say "yes"
Also, if you need a bare dashboard.... no gauges, switches, etc...

Dave .

On 14 Aug 2008 at 16:35, Frank Clarici wrote:

>> Or if someone has a spare 65-67 ign switch with a key, that'll work
>> too. But check your extra key numbers just in case.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Thu Aug 14 15:06:53 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:06:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s
In-Reply-To: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>
References: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <74tht6$4opslo@email.mtu.edu>

I have taken the lock numbers to a lock shop and they have been able 
to cut a key. Look for a shop where the owner has a pony tail and a beard

>So here are the switches I have with no keys,
>FP 701
>FS 937
>FS 942
>Or if someone has a spare 65-67 ign switch with a key, that'll work too.
>But check your extra key numbers just in case.
>I have a bunch of extra keys, none of these #s though
>
>--
>Frank Clarici
>Toms River, NJ
>___________

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 14 15:11:33 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <B3A54C3605064CFE8E3E044BB4F0B8A4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <671495.41505.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So youse guys remove the rocker pedestals without the rest of the head studs? I've never gotten a definitive answer whether that's OK or not.


--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Glen Byrns <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> Another way is, as as already said, is the rope trick.  Get
> a few feet of 
> fine soft nylon rope smaller in diameter than the plug
> hole.  Feed it in 
> (not all the way, DOH!) and hand turn the engine to push
> the rope pile up 
> against the valves.  Total misuse of a crescent wrench will
> compress the 
> springs enough to get the keepers out and offer a great
> chance for a home 
> lobotomy if the wrench slips.
> ( I guess you could use a proper tool if you have one)
> 
> Glen round-dent-in-forehead Byrns
> 
> 
> > I am told you don't even have to do the plug
> thing.  A friend of mine
> > uses rags that he shoves down the spark plug hole when
> the piston is
> > half way down, then he turns the motor over to TDC
> causing the rags to
> > compress and hold the valve in place.  BE CAREFUL with
> that one so that
> > you are in the proper orientation and don't bend
> open valves.
> >
> > Might be worth checking out before pulling the head.
> >
> >    mike
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Aug 14 15:15:56 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:15:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
References: <671495.41505.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1BE6AAACE454EE3BFCE038C56F07E47@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I've only done it once and I got away with it.

Glen


> So youse guys remove the rocker pedestals without the rest of the head 
> studs? I've never gotten a definitive answer whether that's OK or not.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Aug 14 15:19:36 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:19:36 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Key #s
Message-ID: <20080814.151936.10239.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

Frank- FYI I realized when I took the handoff that the holy sprite already has
a MKII dash in it. I don't remember if there was a key or not, maybe
whomsoever has it at the moment (or is about to recieve it) can clarify on
that point.


Mark Haynes
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Thu Aug 14 15:22:06 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:22:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s
References: <48A4971F.2050605@comcast.net> <74tht6$4opslo@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <006301c8fe53$ce1b1080$6401a8c0@refisk>

I've done the same sort of thing, except I took the lock assembly with me to
make sure the new key worked.  Took my locksmith about 5 minutes to look it
up and cut a new key.  He has a ponytail, but no beard.  :-)

Rick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy H. Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>; "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Check your spare key #s


> I have taken the lock numbers to a lock shop and they have been able
> to cut a key. Look for a shop where the owner has a pony tail and a beard

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 18:18:59 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:18:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite over the Continental Divide
In-Reply-To: <5E4A6DF9C45B4ECC9694C78A2A8AECA3@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <4283782.1218570032971.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<D1D37C97968C4D1F83BD84540A6F91EC@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<307747F343D44DDF80B278FA10FD18B1@Larry>
	<22B1B96D-8B1C-474C-ABBC-923281B62ABA@mac.com>
	<2A5D46D8F4D14FA3BBDD9B11964AC198@midget>
	<1A1C3ACF-A796-47BD-8C58-4DDBA4061A8C@mac.com>
	<5E4A6DF9C45B4ECC9694C78A2A8AECA3@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <8378A18B-16D4-4045-8753-8046BA75BA6C@mac.com>

OK  - - - I will not tell you then.  :-))  :-))

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 14, 2008, at 10:01 AM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Didn't you exceed the towing limit for the Miata with the Holy  
>> Sprite.
>
> I carefully did NOT look that up before we left. Tongue weight was  
> certainly in spec, and I don't think, once the unholy lump was  
> exorcised, that the load was excessive. Ariel did not complain at  
> all, although fuel mileage was definitely short of miraculous.
> David Lieb

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu Aug 14 19:01:47 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:01:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (Holy Sprite)
References: <48A474C5.50706@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0808141334g552855dev3414c7c2021d6a38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03ce01c8fe72$7ed5b240$6401a8c0@universal1>

    I know this might be redundant, however, I forwarded the links to the Holy
Sprite Odyssey to an unaware friend in the sports car community earlier.

    He was simply amazed (his words) and asked;

            1. If he could forward the links to his friends and associate car
clubs

            2. Where could he donate

    I answered both questions (with links to the addresses, etc), but, as we
get closer to the end of the pilgrimage and into the resurrection stages, it
might be a good idea to make everyone you know, in every venue, aware of the
conspiracy.

    More news coming as HS is supposed to be in 'The Burgh' late tomorrow.

    Halleluiah,

                                                                    CB

    ps: Was that Thunder??

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 19:09:10 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:09:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...
References: <48A361FA.28098.565EF6@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <A544C454AE344CCAAC94083EF0B77D10@blackbox2>

Go to:
http://bgsoflex.com/auto.html

Then scroll down on the left to rpm range program...

Here is a sample output.  The key item is to go measure you tire diameter.

Differential Gear = 4.22 to 1 
Transmission Gear = 1.00 to 1 
Tire Diameter (Inches) = 22.76 
Tire Growth Factor = 0.000100 (Inches/(MPH*MPH)) 
Computation Results:
Vehicle      Computed     Tire     Xmisssion
 MPH           RPM     Growth(In)    Eff (%)
--------------------------------------------------
 30.0         1862       0.09        100.0
 35.0         2170       0.12        100.0
 40.0         2476       0.16        100.0
 45.0         2780       0.20        100.0
 50.0         3082       0.25        100.0
 55.0         3383       0.30        100.0
 60.0         3681       0.36        100.0
 65.0         3977       0.42        100.0
 70.0         4271       0.49        100.0
 75.0         4562       0.56        100.0
 80.0         4850       0.64        100.0
 85.0         5135       0.72        100.0
 90.0         5416       0.81        100.0
 95.0         5695       0.90        100.0
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...


>I don't know the source of my speedometer but the tach is working...
> I'm running the 4.2 rear end, ribcage box and 13" 175/80 tires on wire 
> wheels....
> What RPM should I see at 35, 55 and 70 mph.
> I'd like to avoid any concversatios with the boys in blue when I try a test run 
> on the towns' roads later this month..
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
> 
> The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 19:22:48 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:22:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget stickers last call
Message-ID: <48A4DA68.3090505@comcast.net>

Last call for those Spridgets stickers.
An octogon with DG in the middle over an arrow (Sprite and midget logos)
With Spridgets at autox.team.net under it.
I have everyone's SASE and will make the order over the weekend if I do 
not hear from anybody else.

If you missed it, you can still order on, or a dozen, but please email 
me with a count ASAP.
To order send a self addressed stamped envelope to me with $1 per 
sticker and I will mail them to you in about a week.

Frank Clarici
631 Parkside Ave
Toms River, NJ 08753

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 14 19:26:30 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:26:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...
In-Reply-To: <A544C454AE344CCAAC94083EF0B77D10@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <20461.56845.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Why don't you do it the easy way. Use a GPS like Garmen or go by the speed
trackers on the side of the road or in school zones. Then you know for sure
where you stand.
 
Vigil

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 14 19:32:33 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:32:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...
In-Reply-To: <20461.56845.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <A544C454AE344CCAAC94083EF0B77D10@blackbox2>,
	<20461.56845.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48A47A41.27098.26EBD63@dmg.bossig.com>

Vigil,

Our school zones do not have speed trackers...... that way the boys in black 
(around here) can write more tickets    ;^<

On 14 Aug 2008 at 18:26, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>> or go by the speed
>> trackers on the side of the road or in school zones. 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 19:33:27 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:33:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
Message-ID: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>

I found a modern "strap adjuster" that is pretty close to the original ones used on 
the two straps that hold the top to the bows in the stowed position on a Bugeye.

http://www.strapworks.com/Strap_Adjusters_p/msa.htm

What is nice is the outfit will powder coat them black for a minor fee.

They also carry sheet metal webbing tips (which the original Bugeye straps had)
http://www.strapworks.com/Webbing_Tips_p/wt.htm

Cotton webbing is still availible, http://www.jontay.com/webbing/cottonwebbing.htm
I choose instead to go with regular poly, as I had some on hand already.

Others on the list indicated the center strap for the bows was leather. I ended up using a buckle 
from a dog collar and a strip of light color leather.

I sure would like to know what the original buckle looked liked on the leather strap.  
I have no good photos of this.

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 14 19:34:02 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:34:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget stickers last call
In-Reply-To: <48A4DA68.3090505@comcast.net>
References: <48A4DA68.3090505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48A47A9A.4452.2701968@dmg.bossig.com>

Frank, 

I must have missed an email somewhere along the line...
What size SASE you need, and what value stamp on it..

Sorry to be a pest...(not really!!)

On 14 Aug 2008 at 21:22, Frank Clarici wrote:
>> To order send a self addressed stamped envelope to me with $1 per
>> sticker and I will mail them to you in about a week.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Aug 14 19:46:53 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
References: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <002801c8fe78$cb6f2a90$6401a8c0@personal>

My first Bugeye, 1963,  had no straps. What is this you speak of?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...


>I found a modern "strap adjuster" that is pretty close to the original ones 
>used on
> the two straps that hold the top to the bows in the stowed position on a 
> Bugeye.
>
> http://www.strapworks.com/Strap_Adjusters_p/msa.htm
>
> What is nice is the outfit will powder coat them black for a minor fee.
>
> They also carry sheet metal webbing tips (which the original Bugeye straps 
> had)
> http://www.strapworks.com/Webbing_Tips_p/wt.htm
>
> Cotton webbing is still availible, 
> http://www.jontay.com/webbing/cottonwebbing.htm
> I choose instead to go with regular poly, as I had some on hand already.
>
> Others on the list indicated the center strap for the bows was leather. I 
> ended up using a buckle
> from a dog collar and a strip of light color leather.
>
> I sure would like to know what the original buckle looked liked on the 
> leather strap.
> I have no good photos of this.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 14 21:09:08 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:09:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] The ebay "1 of 39"...
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPLCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

cars that Linda brought up.

I DID get a second reply from the guy.  "Interesting"<G>!!

Ed
<quote>
Well now Ed....this is fun.

I don't think that I claimed that this was a "rare" car.  I bought it in
1995 from dealer in LA (the Checqured Flag).  The car was a mess.  It didn't
run.  I suspect that it had been a race car then a parts car that was
re-assembled out of parts laying around.  Everything on the car was either
rusted, scratched or broken.  It had had a stainless steel floor pan welded
in when I got it.  That made me think "racer".  Nothing worked, but it was
mostly there.   I needed a "project" and this was going to be it.  I have no
idea where the car came from or anything else about it's history.  Sorry.
</quote>

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Aug 14 20:10:43 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:10:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
In-Reply-To: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
References: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <001601c8fe7c$1fdfce60$5f9f6b20$@net>

Maybe it is just "me" but why worry about originality aspects if your not
going to end up with the original LOOK of certain components.  Especially
when lots of the "correct" bits are readily available through suppliers like
McGregor's in Canada, Colin in Australia, and some other little know English
specialty suppliers???? Why not use commonly available bits that ANY good
automotive or even hardware store has readily on hand.  Lowes has simple
buckles available and even has nylon webbing.  The only time I see to go
"shopping" all over the web is when you are really trying to obtain material
which is NLA through any other source.  Then you have to become creative in
being a sleuth and track down the correct individual components to create
the closest possible match to a factory bit.  Am I missing something???? Or
maybe it is my analness,,,,

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Dean Hedin
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...

I found a modern "strap adjuster" that is pretty close to the original ones
used on 
the two straps that hold the top to the bows in the stowed position on a
Bugeye.

http://www.strapworks.com/Strap_Adjusters_p/msa.htm

What is nice is the outfit will powder coat them black for a minor fee.

They also carry sheet metal webbing tips (which the original Bugeye straps
had)
http://www.strapworks.com/Webbing_Tips_p/wt.htm

Cotton webbing is still availible,
http://www.jontay.com/webbing/cottonwebbing.htm
I choose instead to go with regular poly, as I had some on hand already.

Others on the list indicated the center strap for the bows was leather. I
ended up using a buckle 
from a dog collar and a strip of light color leather.

I sure would like to know what the original buckle looked liked on the
leather strap.  
I have no good photos of this.
You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net

http://www.team.net/archive

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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 14 21:13:13 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:13:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <B3A54C3605064CFE8E3E044BB4F0B8A4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEPMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Glen round-dent-in-forehead Byrns>>

So from NOW on everybody can just talk about Glen the "Denthead"?!?!?!?

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 14 21:18:57 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:18:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <0D40AE5BCD12450FAE7BAA3E61D70E76@Home>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Is anyone really interested in Nash Metropolitans?  I saw three of them in
a local junk yard a few months ago.>>

BUNCH of them in the Chicagoland area, Michael.  And NOT 'trailer queens'!!

As David can attest to, from his area on the 'northside' it's not a
particularly "nice" nor "fun" drive to come near me on the 'southside'.
Yet there are up to a half dozen that make Friday Nite 'cruises' down here.
And BEAUTIFUL cars!!!

Ed

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 14 20:59:20 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:59:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Spirite trailer
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <0D40AE5BCD12450FAE7BAA3E61D70E76@Home>,
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <48A48E98.10006.2BE33AC@dmg.bossig.com>

There's a Black and White one here that has been driven daily to work for 
the last 14 years to my personal knowledge...
I used to work at the same company as the owner...

On 14 Aug 2008 at 21:18, Ed's Shop wrote:
>> BUNCH of them in the Chicagoland area, Michael.  And NOT 'trailer
>> queens'!!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Aug 14 21:17:23 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:17:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
Message-ID: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>

Just checked the Drivers manual, it says two tie downs from the hood frame to
the body.

Picture is poor, what are they made of really, has anyone seen real ones?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Aug 14 21:30:01 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:30:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <48A4F839.3050109@frontiernet.net>

The ones that I remember from the early 60s were made of leather.

Kate


Jack Laird wrote:
> Just checked the Drivers manual, it says two tie downs from the hood frame to
> the body.
>
> Picture is poor, what are they made of really, has anyone seen real ones?
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 21:43:36 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:43:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
References: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
	<001601c8fe7c$1fdfce60$5f9f6b20$@net>
Message-ID: <AF7B32CAA8D746F495CD62EDE0BADB58@blackbox2>

Well Leo,  I don't think it's your analness.

I am aware of McGregor and I have purchased from some items from Collins in the past, 
However, I was unaware that they carried the the stow straps.

So tell me, which aspect of yourself  do you think prevents a simple ,
courtious response of : 
"Hey Dean, I think I can save you some time, I believe McGregors has a very good 
reproduction stow strap." ?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: "'Dean Hedin'" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...


> Maybe it is just "me" but why worry about originality aspects if your not
> going to end up with the original LOOK of certain components.  Especially
> when lots of the "correct" bits are readily available through suppliers like
> McGregor's in Canada, Colin in Australia, and some other little know English
> specialty suppliers???? Why not use commonly available bits that ANY good
> automotive or even hardware store has readily on hand.  Lowes has simple
> buckles available and even has nylon webbing.  The only time I see to go
> "shopping" all over the web is when you are really trying to obtain material
> which is NLA through any other source.  Then you have to become creative in
> being a sleuth and track down the correct individual components to create
> the closest possible match to a factory bit.  Am I missing something???? Or
> maybe it is my analness,,,,
> 
> Leo

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Aug 14 22:04:34 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:04:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <001d01c8fe8c$071851d0$1548f570$@net>

They are made of leather, dyed black, and have a gloss black simple looking
buckle.  McGregor has them BUT he doesnt include the small leather band
that holds the tail of the strap (like on a belt) so you have to either make
one for each strap or have them made.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jack Laird
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:17 PM
To: spridgets net
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs

Just checked the Drivers manual, it says two tie downs from the hood frame
to
the body.

Picture is poor, what are they made of really, has anyone seen real ones?
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 22:29:07 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:29:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <2A4915C2-7E59-4B22-9520-85C164A37D57@mac.com>

For the Bugeyes there were three straps for the hood and frame, at  
least there were on my 60'.  The leather strap tied the hood frame to  
the body and the two fabric straps tied the hood to the frame.  I  
will take some photos on Friday.  I have replace the leather and  
never bothered to dye it black however.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jack Laird wrote:

> Just checked the Drivers manual, it says two tie downs from the  
> hood frame to
> the body.
>
> Picture is poor, what are they made of really, has anyone seen real  
> ones?
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 14 22:31:43 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:31:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
In-Reply-To: <002801c8fe78$cb6f2a90$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
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Doesn't the hood and frame store in the boot on a 1963?  On Bugeyes  
they are strapped behind the seats.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 14, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Jack Laird wrote:

> My first Bugeye, 1963,  had no straps. What is this you speak of?

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Aug 14 22:36:48 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
References: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
	<001d01c8fe8c$071851d0$1548f570$@net>
Message-ID: <AF719E8EAFC74A61AC00A6E5F9C69011@blackbox2>

Leo, you are saying that the two stow straps are made of leather?

I think that is wrong.  I am looking at an orignal BMC factory photo in Eric
Dymock's book "The Sprites and Midgets" and they are clearly webbing and not leather.
The quotation next to the image states "Two webbing straps were provided to hold the folded
hood fabric in place."

Furthermore, the webbing ends in the photo are clearly covered with the folded sheetmetal to prevent the
webbing from fraying.  This would not be the case if the straps were made of leather.

They are not "belt" style buckles, but a slider like the one I have indicated previously.

These photos do not show the center bow strap very well.  It is lighter color and I cannot see the buckle.
But I am willing to believe it is made of leather, since it is lighter in color and in one photo it looks to have
taken a set.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: "'Jack Laird'" <jlaird237 at cox.net>; "'spridgets net'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs


> They are made of leather, dyed black, and have a gloss black simple looking
> buckle.  McGregor has them BUT he doesnt include the small leather band
> that holds the tail of the strap (like on a belt) so you have to either make
> one for each strap or have them made.
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Jack Laird
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:17 PM
> To: spridgets net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
>
> Just checked the Drivers manual, it says two tie downs from the hood frame
> to
> the body.
>
> Picture is poor, what are they made of really, has anyone seen real ones?
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From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 15 07:16:39 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Key #s-I have Holy Sprite
In-Reply-To: <20080814.151936.10239.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <124370.28156.qm@web62504.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Mark is correct - Holy Sprite does have the dash switch configuration of a
Sprite MKII. However, no keys in the ignition.
 
Travel update - I spoke with Bud Osbourne yesterday. We are planning on
meeting in Cambridge, OH at 3:30 pm today for the hand-off. We had some pretty
good rain yesterday, but Holy Sprite was tucked away in the garage, safe and
dry. Nothing but blue skies today. Leaving in less than three hours. 
 
John Kuzman

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Key #s
To: spritenut at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:19 PM

Frank- FYI I realized when I took the handoff that the holy sprite already
has
a MKII dash in it. I don't remember if there was a key or not, maybe
whomsoever has it at the moment (or is about to recieve it) can clarify on
that point.


Mark Haynes
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 07:21:42 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:21:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The ebay "1 of 39"...
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPLCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEPLCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808150621sc4e54e0je063975176e8c290@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, 1 of 39 would NEVER be interpreted as "rare"

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> cars that Linda brought up.
>
> I DID get a second reply from the guy.  "Interesting"<G>!!
>
> Ed
> <quote>
> Well now Ed....this is fun.
>
> I don't think that I claimed that this was a "rare" car.  I bought it in
> 1995 from dealer in LA (the Checqured Flag).  The car was a mess.  It
> didn't
> run.  I suspect that it had been a race car then a parts car that was
> re-assembled out of parts laying around.  Everything on the car was either
> rusted, scratched or broken.  It had had a stainless steel floor pan welded
> in when I got it.  That made me think "racer".  Nothing worked, but it was
> mostly there.   I needed a "project" and this was going to be it.  I have
> no
> idea where the car came from or anything else about it's history.  Sorry.
> </quote>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 15 07:58:19 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:58:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] asking for smoking Engne advice
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEPMCKAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36B35A0618469A61A89A77B86D0@phx.gbl>

He's a 'dent'ist?

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>

<<Glen round-dent-in-forehead Byrns>>

So from NOW on everybody can just talk about Glen the "Denthead"?!?!?!?

<G>

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 15 08:16:55 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:16:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Key #s-I have Holy Sprite/attn: Charley Braum
In-Reply-To: <124370.28156.qm@web62504.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003001c8fee1$958865e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Yes, and, Charley; if you are reading this: I have directions to your
house, but no phone number.  Please email it to me, and my wife will
open the email and pass it along to me.
I'm leaving, momentarily, for a work assignment, which is about an hour
closer to Cambridge than my home, so, I'll see you and John at the
appointed times, later.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
John Kuzman
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:17 AM
To: spritenut at comcast.net; Mark Haynes
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Key #s-I have Holy Sprite


Mark is correct - Holy Sprite does have the dash switch configuration of
a Sprite MKII. However, no keys in the ignition.
 
Travel update - I spoke with Bud Osbourne yesterday. We are planning on
meeting in Cambridge, OH at 3:30 pm today for the hand-off. We had some
pretty good rain yesterday, but Holy Sprite was tucked away in the
garage, safe and dry. Nothing but blue skies today. Leaving in less than
three hours. 
 
John Kuzman

--- On Thu, 8/14/08, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Key #s
To: spritenut at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:19 PM

Frank- FYI I realized when I took the handoff that the holy sprite
already has a MKII dash in it. I don't remember if there was a key or
not, maybe whomsoever has it at the moment (or is about to recieve it)
can clarify on that point.


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 08:32:48 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:32:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
In-Reply-To: <001601c8fe7c$1fdfce60$5f9f6b20$@net>
References: <8B8CD45ACC474CB49BFF9B803D1E1E13@blackbox2>
	<001601c8fe7c$1fdfce60$5f9f6b20$@net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808150732s17aedd1axc7100ab2736608a9@mail.gmail.com>

Leo, you reminded me of a shirt I saw the other day
        ANAL
Not my personality
  My preference

I thought it was funny.....

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Maybe it is just "me" but why worry about originality aspects if your not
> going to end up with the original LOOK of certain components.  Especially
> when lots of the "correct" bits are readily available through suppliers
> like
> McGregor's in Canada, Colin in Australia, and some other little know
> English
> specialty suppliers???? Why not use commonly available bits that ANY good
> automotive or even hardware store has readily on hand.  Lowes has simple
> buckles available and even has nylon webbing.  The only time I see to go
> "shopping" all over the web is when you are really trying to obtain
> material
> which is NLA through any other source.  Then you have to become creative in
> being a sleuth and track down the correct individual components to create
> the closest possible match to a factory bit.  Am I missing something???? Or
> maybe it is my analness,,,,
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye <spridgets-bounces%2B60bugeye>=
> cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Dean Hedin
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:33 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
>
> I found a modern "strap adjuster" that is pretty close to the original ones
> used on
> the two straps that hold the top to the bows in the stowed position on a
> Bugeye.
>
> http://www.strapworks.com/Strap_Adjusters_p/msa.htm
>
> What is nice is the outfit will powder coat them black for a minor fee.
>
> They also carry sheet metal webbing tips (which the original Bugeye straps
> had)
> http://www.strapworks.com/Webbing_Tips_p/wt.htm
>
> Cotton webbing is still availible,
> http://www.jontay.com/webbing/cottonwebbing.htm
> I choose instead to go with regular poly, as I had some on hand already.
>
> Others on the list indicated the center strap for the bows was leather. I
> ended up using a buckle
> from a dog collar and a strip of light color leather.
>
> I sure would like to know what the original buckle looked liked on the
> leather strap.
> I have no good photos of this.
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 09:20:52 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:20:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed vs RPM question...
In-Reply-To: <48A47A41.27098.26EBD63@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <A544C454AE344CCAAC94083EF0B77D10@blackbox2>
	<20461.56845.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48A47A41.27098.26EBD63@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0808150820u49b1f54fqb746d6763f7f472b@mail.gmail.com>

Our school zones have them WITH cameras so they can send out tickets in
batches later!



On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> Vigil,
>
> Our school zones do not have speed trackers...... that way the boys in
> black
> (around here) can write more tickets    ;^<
>
> On 14 Aug 2008 at 18:26, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> >> or go by the speed
> >> trackers on the side of the road or in school zones.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 09:28:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:28:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (Holy Sprite)
In-Reply-To: <03ce01c8fe72$7ed5b240$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <48A474C5.50706@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e0808141334g552855dev3414c7c2021d6a38@mail.gmail.com>
	<03ce01c8fe72$7ed5b240$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808150828j169d8d35id8e31bb590cb1715@mail.gmail.com>

Absolutely, Charley!  Please cross post to everyone you know who might have
an interest!!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net> wrote:

>      I know this might be redundant, however, I forwarded the links to the
> Holy Sprite Odyssey to an unaware friend in the sports car community
> earlier.
>
>     He was simply amazed (his words) and asked;
>
>             1. If he could forward the links to his friends and associate
> car clubs
>
>             2. Where could he donate
>
>     I answered both questions (with links to the addresses, etc), but, as
> we get closer to the end of the pilgrimage and into the resurrection stages,
> it might be a good idea to make everyone you know, in every venue, aware of
> the conspiracy.
>
>     More news coming as HS is supposed to be in 'The Burgh' late tomorrow.
>
>     Halleluiah,
>
>                                                                     CB
>
>     ps: Was that Thunder??
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 13:39:13 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:39:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] contact info for Paul A.
Message-ID: <E1A7F751-AE98-4B42-A39E-38AC4E7A1DE6@gmail.com>

Can anyone help me get in touch with Paul A?  I've tried email and  
left message a message at his shop with no result.

I would like to get information on my 5 speed that is at his shop.  If  
anyone can contact him for me or give me a way to talk to him I would  
appreciate it.


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Aug 15 17:05:52 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:05:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs
References: <000b01c8fe85$6fa66360$6401a8c0@personal>
	<001d01c8fe8c$071851d0$1548f570$@net>
	<AF719E8EAFC74A61AC00A6E5F9C69011@blackbox2>
	<006a01c8fecf$0de97c30$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <A51C9E03189E4CD78D5FB37606638369@blackbox2>

I think it's hard to say Jack, but that may be the case.

I have the original spare tire strap with the two steel hooks.
But I don't think that material looks like modern day cotton webbing strap material.

It looks like something else, but I am not sure what that may be.
In addition,  my spare tire strap had faded over the years. 
It seems to have a slight green tinge to it instead of black.  Maybe that's the originl color. Not sure.

In any case I thought I might make a duplicate of the spare tire strap as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hood frame tie downs


> The only other strap I can remember in my Sprite was a tire hold down 
> "webbing strap" .  Just might make sense that the same firm made the others 
> from the same material.

From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 15 17:25:13 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:25:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 fuel line routing
Message-ID: <7640BC88-1446-4E56-94B7-70F247DA438B@gmail.com>

Does anyone have any pics of the hard fuel line routing from tank to  
carbs?

Doesn't it run under the floor on the inside of the right side  
stiffener to the front cross member then turn to the left side to the  
pump and or carbs?

I have the original pipe, or what's left of it.  I will need to  
salvage the piece with the tank fitting.  Any suggestions as to how  
much pipe I should leave attached to it before I use flex line to  
connect it to a new pipe?

Thanks guys.  It's getting there.  I may get to actually drive it  
this  year:)

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 15 18:40:26 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:40:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite progress report
Message-ID: <004a01c8ff38$ad7c11e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

The Holy Sprite is resting comfortably in Charley Braum's driveway, in
Elizabeth, PA.  I took the hand-off from John & Collie Kuzman (who were
right on schedule) in Cambridge, Ohio.  The entire day went very
smoothly and uneventfully for the Holy Sprite.
The trailer tows shockingly well, and the only way I could tell it was
still back there was by looking in my mirrors!
Thanks to the Powers That Be for including me in the Holy Sprite
Odyssey.  I consider it to have been an honor and a privilege (not to
mention a cake-walk, as I had the shortest "leg" of the journey).
Bud (Short Leg) Osbourne

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Aug 15 20:04:04 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:04:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite progress report
In-Reply-To: <004a01c8ff38$ad7c11e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <004a01c8ff38$ad7c11e0$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <672511240.20080815190404@pacifier.com>

Hello Bud,

     hahahahahaha, i had a shorter drive, WITHOUT the H.S. .. course
     the thing never got within 1000 miles of me, but still...

     you know, i don't have the least bit of guilt for not having
     helped, unlike many of those along the route..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Aug 15 20:30:38 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:30:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk1 fuel line routing
In-Reply-To: <7640BC88-1446-4E56-94B7-70F247DA438B@gmail.com>
References: <7640BC88-1446-4E56-94B7-70F247DA438B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <70F9520B-4F1C-4C99-96E3-F909DAE7B387@comcast.net>

I asked that same question for months and had several replies so here  
goes:


 From tank under car, look where the brake line runs, there is a  
"stiffener" under the floor and it has a lip on left and right, which  
ever side the brake line is in this goes on the other.  It MUST be  
1/4" fuel line to fit in the space and the clips.

It continues to run forward (this is all on passengers side for the  
US) until it gets to the engine bay,

it makes a kink to follow the brake line and sits on the frame rail on  
the passengers side,

makes a 90 degree turn to the right (as viewed from the front of the  
car) and lies on a lip from the frame rail that the steering rack is  
bolted to and is now routing from left to right on this lip.

it makes a 90 degree turn to the rear of the car for a little bit and  
then aims kinda up.

	to be correct it then makes two complete loops about 2" around and  
then into the fuel pump USING A 1/4" COMPRESSION FITTING

	To be practical, aim it kinda towards the fuel pump and cut it so  
that you can fit a short piece of rubber line going from it to the pump.


Here is the best pic I managed to find..

Lester

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 100_0129.jpg]
On Aug 15, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Phil Nase wrote:

> Does anyone have any pics of the hard fuel line routing from tank to
> carbs?
>
> Doesn't it run under the floor on the inside of the right side
> stiffener to the front cross member then turn to the left side to the
> pump and or carbs?
>
> I have the original pipe, or what's left of it.  I will need to
> salvage the piece with the tank fitting.  Any suggestions as to how
> much pipe I should leave attached to it before I use flex line to
> connect it to a new pipe?
>
> Thanks guys.  It's getting there.  I may get to actually drive it
> this  year:)
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Fri Aug 15 20:43:56 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:43:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4F93CDF66701C6C823695C86C0@phx.gbl>

Don't know about the numbers, but
I've been  using a 7/8 MC after upgrading to front discs with normal Frogeye later double rear brake set-up for years and 20k+ miles.

Other than pedal press. being a tad high,
no driveablity problems, no clutch problems, no stopping problems.


Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:26 PM
To: ah53 at yahoo.com, WFO Herb, brian james
Cc: Spridgeteers
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 3/4" v. 7/8" MC

I'm taking a survey.
How many of you believe this to be true?
> The area of the 7/8" piston is about 36% greater than the area of the 3/4"
> piston. This means that the pedal effort required for clutch and brake
> operation is 36% higher with the larger cylinder. It also means that clutch
> slave piston travel is 36% greater. The increase in required pedal effort
> constitutes a significant safety and drivability issue, and the increased
> slave piston travel can cause mechanical problems with the clutch linkage.
> www.brakecylinder.com/spridgetbrakes.htm
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Aug 15 20:50:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:50:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Obits - no LBC
Message-ID: <C4CB8EA3.1909D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/2566281/Jerry-Wexler.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/2540119/Isaac-Hayes-obituary.html

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Sat Aug 16 04:35:51 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:35:51 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack
Message-ID: <10540092.19284891218882951326.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

The engine I am sure, runs perfectly...and does indeed look pretty
sitting on your garage floor...but Frank, WHY did you paint it blue?
Will bring a can of green with me next sunday.

George



On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at  2:31 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Fr Jack just stopped by.
He reminded me of a little kid who just saw his first 2 wheel bicycle on
Christmas Morning he was that excited.
He wrote a note to the list and will be hereB  for it's arrival when
Kevin brings the Holy SpriteB  to my house on 8/24.
As he was leaving he had to go out to the garage to "drool" over the
engine that will be going into his Holy Sprite.
It is all painted and ready to drop in and looks pretty sitting on the
floor.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Aug 16 05:37:27 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:37:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite progress report
In-Reply-To: <672511240.20080815190404@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <005401c8ff94$75c8dd80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Bill,
Hmmm.  I wasn't aware of any compulsory H.S. participation.  I don't
think anyone should feel guilty for not helping.  It seems like there
was plenty of help, wherever it was needed.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill L [mailto:pythias at pacifier.com]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:04 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite progress report


Hello Bud,

     hahahahahaha, i had a shorter drive, WITHOUT the H.S. .. course
     the thing never got within 1000 miles of me, but still...

     you know, i don't have the least bit of guilt for not having
     helped, unlike many of those along the route..

--
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

   

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Aug 16 07:06:59 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 08:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite progress report
References: <005401c8ff94$75c8dd80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <956FA753FD904DEA9670B8CB430AEFB0@midget>

> Hmmm.  I wasn't aware of any compulsory H.S. participation.  I don't
> think anyone should feel guilty for not helping.  It seems like there
> was plenty of help, wherever it was needed.

Bud,
You don't understand. The reason Bill feels no guilt is because he will be 
doing penance by driving his Spridget to New Jersey to help with bodywork 
and then again to do assembly. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 16 16:19:13 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:19:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
In-Reply-To: <A894FB0DCCDD4AE38C3F9D3B5F47246B@midget>
References: <005401c8ff94$75c8dd80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<956FA753FD904DEA9670B8CB430AEFB0@midget>
	<1852559.20080816065531@pacifier.com>
	<A894FB0DCCDD4AE38C3F9D3B5F47246B@midget>
Message-ID: <1603658350.20080816151913@pacifier.com>

        i think i may have discovered something that most on the list
        already knew... seems like the harder i drive the red thing,
        the better it runs. .. i tend to drive the 1098 lump as if it
        were a high torque V-8; seldom going above 4 grand, let alone
        5, and most usually cruising it at around 3k to 3.5k .. if
        that... lately i've tried winding her up a bit more before
        shifting to around 4.5 and cruising at the 3.5k to 3.8k rpm.
        And the engine seems '''happier'''? ... or maybe its just me? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 A big enough hammer fixes anything 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 16 16:40:00 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
In-Reply-To: <1603658350.20080816151913@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <346893.83956.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 8/16/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> 3.8k rpm.
>         And the engine seems
> '''happier'''? ... or maybe its just
> me? 

It sounds like it is. 9000 RPM is too much for more than a second or two. Trust me on this.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug 16 17:48:30 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:48:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
In-Reply-To: <346893.83956.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <1603658350.20080816151913@pacifier.com>
	<346893.83956.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808161648q111d286al41c1e89e6cc2fe6e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> -
> 9000 RPM is too much for more than a second or two. Trust me on this.


Whatcha doin', Ron?  Tryin' to keep up with the Formula 1 boys?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sat Aug 16 17:49:59 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:49:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
In-Reply-To: <1603658350.20080816151913@pacifier.com>
References: <005401c8ff94$75c8dd80$6601a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<956FA753FD904DEA9670B8CB430AEFB0@midget>
	<1852559.20080816065531@pacifier.com>
	<A894FB0DCCDD4AE38C3F9D3B5F47246B@midget>
	<1603658350.20080816151913@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <A2351BC9-98B3-49EC-83C1-92DE72B6476E@mac.com>

Bill,

These engines (as most European engines of that time) need to run at  
higher RPM's.  They do not have any umps at low RPM's and indeed this  
tends to tear them up.  2K RPM has always been my lower limit unless  
there is a load then 2.5-3K is the lower limit.  For a stock engine  
3-5K RPM is a happy place.

Just my two cents

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 16, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Bill L wrote:

>         i think i may have discovered something that most on the list
>         already knew... seems like the harder i drive the red thing,
>         the better it runs. .. i tend to drive the 1098 lump as if it
>         were a high torque V-8; seldom going above 4 grand, let alone
>         5, and most usually cruising it at around 3k to 3.5k .. if
>         that... lately i've tried winding her up a bit more before
>         shifting to around 4.5 and cruising at the 3.5k to 3.8k rpm.
>         And the engine seems '''happier'''? ... or maybe its just me?
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  A big enough hammer fixes anything
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug 16 19:44:27 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:44:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit meeting
Message-ID: <48A7827B.2020006@comcast.net>

Next Sunday, 8/24 will be an eastern Oshit meeting to find out why 
George Marinos MKII Sprite is swaying when he drives.
It is also the arrival date of the Holy Sprite in Toms River and at 
about the same time Father Jack will be saying 10:00 Mass at St Barnibas 
in Bayville, NJ. He will get to see his Holy Sprite at around noon.
Any and all are welcome.
No work will be done on the Holy Sprite unless we have too many people 
to work on George's Sprite then some disassembly of the Holy Sprite can 
get started but this is George's Oshit. (organization of Spridget 
handymen In Transit)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug 16 19:58:55 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:58:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sheet
Message-ID: <48A785DF.30708@comcast.net>

 I have a hard time calling it Jack shit or Holy shit but the first of 2 
major oshit meetings for work on the Holy Sprite
will be the weekend of 9/26-9/28.
I have room for about 3 or 4 *guests*, more if you don't mind the floor.
There is a new Comfort Inn just 5 blocks away on the highway too.
This first meet will be for body work, sanding, adjustments, welding, 
panel fabrication, and fender beating.
If you know body work, please come by, if you want to learn, you are 
more then welcome too.
I want to get the car to bare metal, fix what ever needs fixin, and have 
it epoxy primed Sunday afternoon.
I know this is possible as Kevin and I did something very similar to his 
Midget last year.
That was just 2 of us working a couple of long days.
I have a decent compressor, if you have air tools, bring them. I have 
the paint guns but sanders are sort of scarce as I only have one of each.
I will know a little more when I see the car in person and study it, I 
can even have any special parts made up at the local metal shop or get 
panels ordered in time for this meet.
Once the major body work is done, I can work out the minor imperfections 
over the following week or so.
My son is volunteering to paint the car as his part. His buddy will be 
doing the final wet sanding and buffing.

The second meet will be to assemble the Holy Sprite some time in late 
October or early November.
This should give me plenty of time to get all the stuff we need to 
assemble it.
Seats recovered, make up some interior panels, get the carpet and vinyl 
so we can make an interior.
Put on some brakes, shocks, install engine and trans, and make it run, 
drive, stop, and look good.
The colors chosen by Father Jack are OEW with a dark blue interior and 
white piping on the seats.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 16 21:51:54 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:51:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sheet
In-Reply-To: <48A785DF.30708@comcast.net>
References: <48A785DF.30708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W178C7AD29575D4CB730507CA6F0@phx.gbl>

That sounds great Frank- I do wish that I lived closer to your coast so that I
could be part of it.
I want to be involved in the next OSHIT that is in this half of the country.

BillM
> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:58:55 -0400> From: spritenut at comcast.net> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sheet> > I have a hard
time calling it Jack shit or Holy shit but the first of 2 > major oshit
meetings for work on the Holy Sprite> will be the weekend of 9/26-9/28.> I
have room for about 3 or 4 *guests*, more if you don't mind the floor.> There
is a new Comfort Inn just 5 blocks away on the highway too.> This first meet
will be for body work, sanding, adjustments, welding, > panel fabrication, and
fender beating.> If you know body work, please come by, if you want to learn,
you are > more then welcome too.> I want to get the car to bare metal, fix
what ever needs fixin, and have > it epoxy primed Sunday afternoon.> I know
this is possible as Kevin and I did something very similar to his > Midget
last year.> That was just 2 of us working a couple of long days.> I have a
decent compressor, if you have air tools, bring them. I have > the paint guns
but sanders are sort of scarce as I only have one of each.> I will know a
little more when I see the car in person and study it, I > can even have any
special parts made up at the local metal shop or get > panels ordered in time
for this meet.> Once the major body work is done, I can work out the minor
imperfections > over the following week or so.> My son is volunteering to
paint the car as his part. His buddy will be > doing the final wet sanding and
buffing.> > The second meet will be to assemble the Holy Sprite some time in
late > October or early November.> This should give me plenty of time to get
all the stuff we need to > assemble it.> Seats recovered, make up some
interior panels, get the carpet and vinyl > so we can make an interior.> Put
on some brakes, shocks, install engine and trans, and make it run, > drive,
stop, and look good.> The colors chosen by Father Jack are OEW with a dark
blue interior and > white piping on the seats.> > -- > Frank Clarici> Toms
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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Sun Aug 17 05:14:06 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 07:14:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
Message-ID: <d48.37974985.35d961fe@aol.com>

That would be 20,000 rpm
 
In a message dated 17/08/2008 00:48:47 GMT Daylight Time,  bmwwxman at gmail.com 
writes:

Whatcha  doin', Ron?  Tryin' to keep up with the Formula 1 boys?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From tannen at babson.edu  Sun Aug 17 07:53:43 2008
From: tannen at babson.edu (Tannen, Skip)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:53:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack and horn grounding
Message-ID: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93EB032BB@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu>

Folks,

I'm looking for some advice on horn grounding.  I know this has been
discussed before, and I did find some info in the archives, but I
haven't found a fix yet.  My horn stopped working, and after taking
everything apart and troubleshooting I found that the problem is the
steering column ground.  I can get the horn to work by grounding a
jumper wire on the steering column, but grounding a jumper wire to one
of the steering rack bolts doesn't work.  If the column grounds through
the rack, shouldn't grounding one of the rack bolts make it work?  Any
ideas on how I can get a good ground again?

Thanks in advance.


Skip Tannen
'65 Austin Healey Sprite
'71 Triumph Bonneville
http://www.skiptannen.net/sprite.cfm

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 17 10:43:43 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:43:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] happy motor?
In-Reply-To: <d48.37974985.35d961fe@aol.com>
References: <d48.37974985.35d961fe@aol.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808170943s43b61baew2449ec3e94bf0afc@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel,

I thought it was 19,000 by limit.  Did the rules change again?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 6:14 AM, <Weslake1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  That would be 20,000 rpm
>
> In a message dated 17/08/2008 00:48:47 GMT Daylight Time,
> bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:
>
> Whatcha doin', Ron?  Tryin' to keep up with the Formula 1 boys?  ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 17 11:26:47 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:26:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack and horn grounding
In-Reply-To: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93EB032BB@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu>
References: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93EB032BB@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu>
Message-ID: <48A85F57.1050305@comcast.net>

Tannen, Skip wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on horn grounding.  
The rack is (was) mounted on paper gaskets at the clamps, add a rubber 
collar where it bolts to the body under the dash
and all that is left is the tie rod ends which are floating in grease.
Now stick the inner column down the tube with a felt bushing on each end.
If you painted everything up real nice, forget about a good ground.
The only true ground is where the inner column meets the pinion.
The horn push grounds on the column, not the outer tube.
The ground really should be at the tie rod ends to the steering arms. 
Clean that point to bare metal.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun Aug 17 16:25:22 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:25:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit meeting
Message-ID: <081720082225.19290.48A8A5520004966700004B5A2215567074000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Frank,
Is there still going to be time to work on my head gasket?
What time do you want us to get there?
Ryan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> 

> Next Sunday, 8/24 will be an eastern Oshit meeting to find out why 
> George Marinos MKII Sprite is swaying when he drives. 
> It is also the arrival date of the Holy Sprite in Toms River and at 
> about the same time Father Jack will be saying 10:00 Mass at St Barnibas 
> in Bayville, NJ. He will get to see his Holy Sprite at around noon. 
> Any and all are welcome. 
> No work will be done on the Holy Sprite unless we have too many people 
> to work on George's Sprite then some disassembly of the Holy Sprite can 
> get started but this is George's Oshit. (organization of Spridget 
> handymen In Transit) 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici 
> Toms River, NJ 
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From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 17 17:08:47 2008
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:08:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High
Message-ID: <681620.88527.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Greetings!

Over the last few months I have noticed the oil pressure in my Bugeye with a 1275 slowly creeping higher. Earlier this year, it was running about 70 cold idle and 75 at cold 3000 rpm. Hot idle would be 45 psi and 60 psi hot 3000 rpm. Last week, it went to 80 psi cold idle and almost 85 cold at 3000 rpm. Hot idle was over 70 psi and over 80 psi at 3000 rpm hot.
Today I swapped out different pressure relief valves, springs and even tried the ball bearing. No difference, except the ball bearing shot it up to almost 100 psi cold. 
Any thoughts on where I should look next? Thanks.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Aug 17 18:17:46 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:17:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High
In-Reply-To: <681620.88527.qm@web62506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C4CE0DBA.190EA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Try a different gauge.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 17 18:27:24 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:27:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High
References: <C4CE0DBA.190EA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <001f01c900c9$2f941470$6401a8c0@personal>

I agree Billy, that should be first guess. Sigh, missed that.


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To: <jjkan5 at yahoo.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Too High


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From bugi1960 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 17 18:29:33 2008
From: bugi1960 at gmail.com (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:29:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rearview mirror attach
Message-ID: <263880DD-DB64-44D0-A8B0-8B0FA1A7390E@gmail.com>

Is a Bugeye rearview mirror attached with sheet metal screws #8s or  
#6s?  Or should I use a machine screw.  I can't till if there is  
captive nuts under there or not.

Anyone ever pull apart a heater blower motor?  The wires on mine are  
pretty bad but it's really in tight inside the case.  I also have what  
look like remnants of brushes that fell out and I see no way to attach  
a replacement.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 17 19:50:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:50:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye rearview mirror attach
In-Reply-To: <263880DD-DB64-44D0-A8B0-8B0FA1A7390E@gmail.com>
References: <263880DD-DB64-44D0-A8B0-8B0FA1A7390E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48A8D552.4040501@comcast.net>

Phil Nase wrote:
> Is a Bugeye rearview mirror attached with sheet metal screws #8s or  
> #6s?  Or should I use a machine screw.  I can't till if there is  
> captive nuts under there or not
>   
10/32 machine screws in captive nuts under the cowl. stainless oval 
heads work and look nice, I have some here if you want to wait til next 
weekend when I see you.

> Anyone ever pull apart a heater blower motor?  The wires on mine are  
> pretty bad but it's really in tight inside the case.  I also have what  
> look like remnants of brushes that fell out and I see no way to attach  
> a replacement.
>
>   
It's do-able but if the bronze bushing pulls out of the spring tab in 
the back of the motor, it's just about impossible to get the bushing 
back in the spring clip.
Again, if you totally mess it up, bring it with you, or if you kill it, 
I have spares.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Aug 17 20:40:17 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:40:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye straps & buckles...
Message-ID: <C742245A31A14B42809DBA1D03B08F6A@blackbox2>

Bob Kitterer was kind enough to photograph his stow straps and bow stow strap, along with the associated buckles.
 
 Bob indicated it was OK to post these images, so I have placed them on photobucket.
 If you wish to reuse these images please contact Bob.
 
 http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/?action=view&current=bow_leather_strap.jpg
 http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/?action=view&current=hood_stow_strap1.jpg
 http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/?action=view&current=hood_stow_strap2.jpg
 
 My previously mentioned stow strap buckle is not as close as I hoped. 
 Do the McGreggors buckles look like these?
 
 However I came close on the bow strap buckle, which is pretty amazing considering I can't see it in Dymock's book.
As another poster mentioned, you can find buckles very close to these on pet collars. 
 I found mine at a flea market. I think it was on a purse strap or something like that.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 06:47:41 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:47:41 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
Message-ID: <081820081247.21987.48A96F6D000E0702000055E32216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

I gave my neighbor my VIN to do a carfax history report and since it didn't have 17 digits ( i have 13) they wouldn't accept it for a search.
Anybody run into this before?
ryan

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug 18 06:53:25 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:53:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <081820081247.21987.48A96F6D000E0702000055E32216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <081820081247.21987.48A96F6D000E0702000055E32216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <138761758.20080818055325@pacifier.com>

Hello ryan,

     YEP,... carfax and those history places will only work on cars
     built after "vin standardization".. 1979, 1980..

     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug 18 06:56:15 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:56:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <081820081247.21987.48A96F6D000E0702000055E32216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <081820081247.21987.48A96F6D000E0702000055E32216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003901c90131$ce2e35d0$3d03f204@spider>

My sense is they prefer not to deal with older vehicles. 
Or the documentation may not exist.
...bill in oregon
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:48 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search

I gave my neighbor my VIN to do a carfax history report and since it didn't
have 17 digits ( i have 13) they wouldn't accept it for a search.
Anybody run into this before?
ryan
_______________________________________________

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 06:58:05 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:58:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
Message-ID: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

So how can I find out that my cars 23rd owner drove it into the atlantic where it sat as a fish hotel for 2 years? 
Seriously, how can I find out anything about its previous lives and owners?
ryan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> 

> Hello ryan, 
> 
> YEP,... carfax and those history places will only work on cars 
> built after "vin standardization".. 1979, 1980.. 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards, 
> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com 
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" 
> 
> "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug 18 07:03:20 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:03:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <173509744.20080818060320@pacifier.com>

Hello ryan,

     hire a detective. .. otherwise you're SOL.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Yo momma so fat when she tripped over on 4th Ave, she landed on 12th.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Aug 18 09:00:51 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:00:51 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
Message-ID: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

The hardtop on the BE has a whole bunch of clips along the lip where the side
curtains should seal (does anything really seal anyway?). What type of seal
goes in there anyway? Would it be a 'Z' type of seal?
TIA,


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From heard at datatrontech.net  Mon Aug 18 09:52:17 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:52:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <173509744.20080818060320@pacifier.com>
References: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
	<173509744.20080818060320@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <05e501c9014a$64827a10$1801010a@xp>

This brings up a good question..

Who reports this stuff to Carfax, what is their motivation to do so, and is
it at all accurate?

Heard

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 18 10:01:01 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:01:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <05e501c9014a$64827a10$1801010a@xp>
References: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
	<173509744.20080818060320@pacifier.com>
	<05e501c9014a$64827a10$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808180901i2531b63mbc8d2e74c09d9d65@mail.gmail.com>

Some people report, mostly insurance companies.  If you pay cash for a
repair, you don't have to report anything.
It is possible to total a car and repair it without Carfax knowing anything.
It is good to check Carfax but nothing beats having a good body shop
put the vehicle on a lift and inspect it.


On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:
> This brings up a good question..
>
> Who reports this stuff to Carfax, what is their motivation to do so, and is
> it at all accurate?
>
> Heard

From tannen at babson.edu  Mon Aug 18 10:48:23 2008
From: tannen at babson.edu (Tannen, Skip)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 12:48:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steering rack and horn grounding
In-Reply-To: <48A85F57.1050305@comcast.net>
References: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93EB032BB@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu>
	<48A85F57.1050305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <32A28289A5388B4E8660426763E2E93EB032D3@EMPMAIL2.babson.edu>

Well, what do you know - I rebuilt my front end this spring, and here's
a surprise - I painted up the steering arms all nice and pretty.  Frank,
you're awesome - thank you!

Thanks everyone for all your responses.  I guess I know what I need to
do now...  :-)


Skip Tannen
'65 Austin Healey Sprite
'71 Triumph Bonneville T120R
http://www.skiptannen.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:27 PM
To: Tannen, Skip
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steering rack and horn grounding

Tannen, Skip wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on horn grounding.
The rack is (was) mounted on paper gaskets at the clamps, add a rubber
collar where it bolts to the body under the dash
and all that is left is the tie rod ends which are floating in grease.
Now stick the inner column down the tube with a felt bushing on each
end.
If you painted everything up real nice, forget about a good ground.
The only true ground is where the inner column meets the pinion.
The horn push grounds on the column, not the outer tube.
The ground really should be at the tie rod ends to the steering arms.
Clean that point to bare metal.



--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Mon Aug 18 12:38:34 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:38:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite in Eastern PA
Message-ID: <ACF4070D-B050-44B7-9F36-2E67E2D55705@valentinephoto.net>

Hey ALL,

The Holy Sprite has just arrived in Tuscarora, Pennsylvania.

Charley Braum traveled from the western end of Pennsylvania  
(Pittsburgh area) to the Harrisburg area this morning and we met at  
the Holiday Inn in Grantville, PA at about noon.

The Holy Sprite will now take a brief rest in Tuscarora until Sunday  
August 24th.  On Sunday morning it will make the final leg of it's  
journey to Tom's River, NJ.

I salute all who proceeded me in this endeavor!

Kevin Valentine
Tuscarora, PA

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 14:14:06 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:14:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808180901i2531b63mbc8d2e74c09d9d65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
	<173509744.20080818060320@pacifier.com>
	<05e501c9014a$64827a10$1801010a@xp>
	<5f00d9910808180901i2531b63mbc8d2e74c09d9d65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F21201A6-AE98-49CC-AF4B-682A86E7EE2C@comcast.net>

Agreed.  My son has tried to kill his car no fewer than 3 times.   
Carfax thinks that is ok..

Lester

On Aug 18, 2008, at 11:01 AM, derf wrote:

> Some people report, mostly insurance companies.  If you pay cash for a
> repair, you don't have to report anything.
> It is possible to total a car and repair it without Carfax knowing  
> anything.
> It is good to check Carfax but nothing beats having a good body shop
> put the vehicle on a lift and inspect it.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net>  
> wrote:
>> This brings up a good question..
>>
>> Who reports this stuff to Carfax, what is their motivation to do  
>> so, and is
>> it at all accurate?
>>
>> Heard

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 14:14:54 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:14:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>

McGregor has the seal, same as the door seals..

Lester

On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> The hardtop on the BE has a whole bunch of clips along the lip  
> where the side
> curtains should seal (does anything really seal anyway?). What type  
> of seal
> goes in there anyway? Would it be a 'Z' type of seal?
> TIA,
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
> _______________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Aug 18 14:30:45 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:30:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] LOTO & Holy Sprite Journey
Message-ID: <48A9DBF5.5000801@frontiernet.net>

Those of you who stopped at my place probably met Charlie from next 
door, my chief cook on the BBQ since Gary died.  Early Saturday morning, 
Charlie had a severe asthma attack and could not be resuscitated. He was 
a royal pain at times, but a wonderful neighbor who became like family.  
Perhaps Father Jack would  consider a brief prayer for a former MGA 
owner who performed a small part in seeing Holy Sprite on its way.

Kate

From hannamj at juno.com  Mon Aug 18 15:17:43 2008
From: hannamj at juno.com (Mark & Joanna)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:17:43 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
Message-ID: <20080818.151743.12069.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

I had a similar problem with my new 1380. A ball bearing with the stock
pressure relief valve spring produces too much oil pressure.
You can cut down the spring. Trial and error. Or, I bought a nifty adjustable
pressure relief valve with a new shorter spring. Now I can dial in any
pressure I like. Go for 55 to 60 PSI hot max. Any more and you risk
overheating the oil at the journals, causing oil leaks, robbing precious HP,
etc. I got my adjustable pressure relief valve from APT. They are very nice
folks who really know their stuff. In dealing with APT you will not be sorry.
Mark and Joanna (AN5-Colorado)

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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Aug 18 15:40:16 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:40:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>

Here we go again...LOL....

The hard top seal for around the windows AND for the flange which sits on
the body is NOT at all like the door seals.  It is a z type shaped seal (not
actually Z shaped and I can take a picture of it so you can understand the
shape) and then a CREAM Colored woven windlass LIKE the door seal material
covers the rubber and the flange.  A real pia to install and get to hold as
the windlass cloth has the same inner aluminum core as the original style
door seals.  McGregor's are not at all like the original seals.  As far as I
know Bill Bolton in California is the only supplier for all the correct
parts.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Lester
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 3:15 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?

McGregor has the seal, same as the door seals..

Lester

On Aug 18, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> The hardtop on the BE has a whole bunch of clips along the lip  
> where the side
> curtains should seal (does anything really seal anyway?). What type  
> of seal
> goes in there anyway? Would it be a 'Z' type of seal?
> TIA,
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
> _______________
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Aug 18 15:45:56 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:45:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
References: <20080818.151743.12069.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c9017b$cb93dc40$6401a8c0@personal>

I also have an adjustable pressure releafe valve with a ball bearing. 
Wonderful thing it is.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark & Joanna" <hannamj at juno.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high


>I had a similar problem with my new 1380. A ball bearing with the stock
> pressure relief valve spring produces too much oil pressure.
> You can cut down the spring. Trial and error. Or, I bought a nifty 
> adjustable
> pressure relief valve with a new shorter spring. Now I can dial in any
> pressure I like. Go for 55 to 60 PSI hot max. Any more and you risk
> overheating the oil at the journals, causing oil leaks, robbing precious 
> HP,
> etc. I got my adjustable pressure relief valve from APT. They are very 
> nice
> folks who really know their stuff. In dealing with APT you will not be 
> sorry.
> Mark and Joanna (AN5-Colorado)
>
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Mon Aug 18 15:58:41 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:58:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite thru WesternCentral PA
References: <ACF4070D-B050-44B7-9F36-2E67E2D55705@valentinephoto.net>
	<43840a7e0808181258h3046cca9v2057e19a5886c8fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b801c9017d$93fb4eb0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    Bud O. dropped the ball here on Friday evening (poor choice of words),
right on schedule. Due to work considerations at both ends of the next leg,
the transfer took place today (Monday, 18Aug) which gave H-S a couple days
rest - and a couple days ogling by the neighbors whilst parked in front of my
garage. The most common comments were "OH, you have ANOTHER one?" and "How
long will this one take?"
    Re-checked lug nuts and straps and took off this morning, a bit crisp for
August. Got on the PA turnpike at New Stanton and the fog in the mountains
didn't clear completely until Breezewood (The Town of Motels). Took a while to
shake off the dew but H-S was dried off as we traversed the first high
points.
    Crossed the mountains (Note here - I know all about the Rockies, but,
these are our mountains, they are older than yours and we're keeping them!),
through the tunnels and out into the central plain.
    Touched base with Kevin V., everything on schedule - we met at Grantville
within 15 minutes of each other and made the switch.
    Trailer towed nice at around 60 mph. Got up to 65 on occasion but with all
the construction mostly kept to 55 and below.
    A lot of folks gave me a 'high-sign' when passing; some were pointing
their fingers at their temples and making circles, but I took that as a good
omen. A couple truckers wanted to pass in the worst way, but when they saw it
was a Bugeye, they respectfully backed off, and NOW! Every State Trooper I
passed (and there were quite a few loading up Fast Eddie Rendell's coffers)
wanted to stop me for a once-over, but I think the "Holy Sprite" spray painted
on the side made them think twice.
    Now off to pack to join the festivities next week-end; glad to have been a
small part of the odyssey (I haven't spelled that right yet!).

                                                                            C
B

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 18 16:58:55 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:58:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
	<006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
Message-ID: <0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>

Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.

At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
rest of the number remained the same.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Leo wrote:

> Here we go again...LOL....
>
> The hard top seal for around the windows AND for the flange which  
> sits on
> the body is NOT at all like the door seals.  It is a z type shaped  
> seal (not
> actually Z shaped and I can take a picture of it so you can  
> understand the
> shape) and then a CREAM Colored woven windlass LIKE the door seal  
> material
> covers the rubber and the flange.  A real pia to install and get to  
> hold as
> the windlass cloth has the same inner aluminum core as the original  
> style
> door seals.  McGregor's are not at all like the original seals.  As  
> far as I
> know Bill Bolton in California is the only supplier for all the  
> correct
> parts.
>
> Leo

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 18 17:04:28 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:04:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite thru WesternCentral PA
In-Reply-To: <00b801c9017d$93fb4eb0$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <ACF4070D-B050-44B7-9F36-2E67E2D55705@valentinephoto.net>
	<43840a7e0808181258h3046cca9v2057e19a5886c8fc@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b801c9017d$93fb4eb0$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <BC700F0B-DBBB-4BDC-BC79-842A1A67526B@mac.com>

But yours are all worn down.  :-))


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Charley Braum wrote:

> Crossed the mountains (Note here - I know all about the Rockies, but,
> these are our mountains, they are older than yours and we're  
> keeping them!),

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Aug 18 17:06:55 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:06:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
In-Reply-To: <20080818.151743.12069.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <C4CF4E9F.19130%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Please define "Too high oil pressure".

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 18 17:12:58 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:12:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
In-Reply-To: <C4CF4E9F.19130%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <20080818.151743.12069.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
	<C4CF4E9F.19130%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808181612u23e36ad9j4e6d7483558c0de9@mail.gmail.com>

"Too high oil pressure" is the state where the oil pressure exceeds
desired levels.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 18 17:40:57 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:40:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit meeting
In-Reply-To: <48A7827B.2020006@comcast.net>
References: <48A7827B.2020006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190808181640x36e20fbqecc8362f72bc7e76@mail.gmail.com>

Check the rear springs and the U-bolts.  The springs may be broken and the
bolts maybe loose.

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Next Sunday, 8/24 will be an eastern Oshit meeting to find out why
> George Marinos MKII Sprite is swaying when he drives.\

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Aug 18 17:50:12 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
	<006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <007501c9018d$27a633f0$76f29bd0$@net>

Bob, do you by chance have Bill Bolton's contact info?  I bought my seals
from him at least 6 years ago and stuck them away till this year when I
finally got to install them. I cant find his info as I looked today.

Thanks
Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Kitterer Bob
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:59 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?

Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.

At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
rest of the number remained the same.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Leo wrote:

> Here we go again...LOL....
>
> The hard top seal for around the windows AND for the flange which  
> sits on
> the body is NOT at all like the door seals.  It is a z type shaped  
> seal (not
> actually Z shaped and I can take a picture of it so you can  
> understand the
> shape) and then a CREAM Colored woven windlass LIKE the door seal  
> material
> covers the rubber and the flange.  A real pia to install and get to  
> hold as
> the windlass cloth has the same inner aluminum core as the original  
> style
> door seals.  McGregor's are not at all like the original seals.  As  
> far as I
> know Bill Bolton in California is the only supplier for all the  
> correct
> parts.
>
> Leo
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Aug 18 18:01:25 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:01:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Pressure sensor
In-Reply-To: <ACF4070D-B050-44B7-9F36-2E67E2D55705@valentinephoto.net>
References: <ACF4070D-B050-44B7-9F36-2E67E2D55705@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <A9DE6B6EE2E241B98281E9023122642C@Home>

My brake pressure sensor accepts a plug, and the two black&white wires for 
it have bullets.  Am I missing a piece of the wiring, or do I have the wrong 
sensor?  It is not clear from the catalogues what I should replace.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 18 18:03:06 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <081820081258.20167.48A971DD000049F100004EC72216554886000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <264982.13251.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My brother in law bought a farm in Mich. It had a good size pond so he decided
to try out some scuba gear he just bought before going to Florida with a group
diving. He found he had a 68 MGB and a old tractor in the pond. He pulled out
the tractor that day. He cleaned it all up and got it working to use around
the place. He pulled out the MGB just before winter. Put it in his pole barn
and worked on it thought out the winter. The next summer he drove it to
California to visit. Then we went North to the Canadian rockies. for vacation.
>From there we came south home and he went across one of the Canadian highways
home. He owned the car for eight or nine years before selling it. It was a
very nice car. Better then most of the MGB's around in California. So there is
nothing wrong with a car pulled from a lake or water if treaded
correctly after it has been removed from water. I have seen things even saved
from salt water. Not a car - but it is
 possible.
  
Vigil


From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 5:58 AM

So how can I find out that my cars 23rd owner drove it into the atlantic
where
it sat as a fish hotel for 2 years?
Seriously, how can I find out anything about its previous lives and owners?
ryan

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>

> Hello ryan,
>
> YEP,... carfax and those history places will only work on cars
> built after "vin standardization".. 1979, 1980..
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing"
>
> "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared.
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From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Aug 18 18:36:54 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:36:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <007501c9018d$27a633f0$76f29bd0$@net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
	<006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
	<007501c9018d$27a633f0$76f29bd0$@net>
Message-ID: <48AA15A6.1040006@cox.net>

 From the SpriteSpot.com

Post 
<http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=211&sid=fb53080b89869ece5d79795baeea3854#p211>by 
*Herbytoy 
<http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=38&sid=fb53080b89869ece5d79795baeea3854>* 
on Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:39 pm

For original hardtop seals and parts try Bolt-On Healeys (Bill Bolton), 
Tricarb at aol.com <mailto:Tricarb at aol.com>, PH: 541-895-5576, FX: 
541-895-4091. This info is about 1-2 years old so don't if any has changed.

Note:  info is actually 5-6 years old since post was in 2004!

Anyone who have current info please post to the list.

Thanks!

Paul

Leo wrote:
> Bob, do you by chance have Bill Bolton's contact info?  I bought my seals
> from him at least 6 years ago and stuck them away till this year when I
> finally got to install them. I cant find his info as I looked today.
>
> Thanks
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Kitterer Bob
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:59 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
>
> Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.
>
> At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
> close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
> number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
> rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
> remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
> rest of the number remained the same.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
>
>
> On Aug 18, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Leo wrote:
>
>   
>> Here we go again...LOL....
>>
>> The hard top seal for around the windows AND for the flange which  
>> sits on
>> the body is NOT at all like the door seals.  It is a z type shaped  
>> seal (not
>> actually Z shaped and I can take a picture of it so you can  
>> understand the
>> shape) and then a CREAM Colored woven windlass LIKE the door seal  
>> material
>> covers the rubber and the flange.  A real pia to install and get to  
>> hold as
>> the windlass cloth has the same inner aluminum core as the original  
>> style
>> door seals.  McGregor's are not at all like the original seals.  As  
>> far as I
>> know Bill Bolton in California is the only supplier for all the  
>> correct
>> parts.
>>
>> Leo

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Aug 18 19:01:47 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:01:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite
Message-ID: <002001c90197$27ba9ac0$6401a8c0@personal>

This was passed to me for any assistance that may be needed inroute.

Hi Jack,

I live about an hour east of Grantville, PA.

If I can help, I'd be glad to... I'm about 2 miles south of Rt 78, which is
the almost certainly the route they're taking toward Tom's River. Even if just
for moral support.

Scott Hower
7315 Poppy Dr
Macungie, PA 18062

610.391.9336 (home)
610.909.7054 (mobile)

Please pass my contact info along to whomever is organizing the route.

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Mon Aug 18 19:15:00 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:15:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oshit meeting
Message-ID: <25047765.23201471219108500734.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

Thank's Frank!  I know after a cross country journey it is going to be
very tempting to dig right into it.  I appreciate the groups allowing
the sprite and I to share the moment of the great arrival.   I am
confident that the expert eyes and swift hands of the group my MKII will
be quickly repaired... then the real fun begins.

George



On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at  9:44 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

> Next Sunday, 8/24 will be an eastern Oshit meeting to find out why
George Marinos MKII Sprite is swaying when he drives.
It is also the arrival date of the Holy Sprite in Toms River and at
about the same time Father Jack will be saying 10:00 Mass at St Barnibas
in Bayville, NJ. He will get to see his Holy Sprite at around noon.
Any and all are welcome.
No work will be done on the Holy Sprite unless we have too many people
to work on George's Sprite then some disassembly of the Holy Sprite can
get started but this is George's Oshit. (organization of Spridget
handymen In Transit)

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 18 19:23:21 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:23:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY - Sunday, October 5, 2008
Message-ID: <7238547.1219109001955.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

29th ANNUAL SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY
Sunday, October 5, 2008

San Diego British Car Day Website at:
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Twenty eight years ago, a hearty band of British car enthusiasts got together
over picnics at a park to view each othersb cars, and enjoy each othersb
friendship. This year, we begin to return to that heritage. Over the past 28
years the event has grown considerably and now attracts participants from all
over California and beyond. We are proud that this event has become one of the
premier British car shows in California. In the past few years, we have
incurred considerable additional expenses relating to, among other things,
permits and insurance. Thus, starting this year,
we have made some changes in keeping with the original spirit of the event.
For instance, there will be no program or raffle at this yearbs show. Also,
due to the increased expenses, we have had to increase our registration fees
by $5.00. We continue to provide a wonderful experience, including a variety
of vendors, Hoggbs Beach BBQ, the very popular Cameron Highlander Bagpipers
and over 400 diverse English cars for your viewing pleasure.

The San Diego British Car Club Council is a California nonprofit mutual
benefit corporation.

OCTOBER 5th EVENT SCHEDULE

7:30 b 10:00 Registration -- Park in your Marque area as directed/signed
10:00 b 3:00 Cars on display
11:30 b 12:00 Judging for best b
Classic Elegantb
 English picnic
12:00 Ballots must be presented to the Club ballot boxes for cars of choice.
Clubs count the ballots and turn in at the Judging boothbb
on
        the hillb
 by the Minis
12:00 b 2:00 Picnic or Lunch at your leisure . . .
         and please pick up your trash!
12:30 Ballots MUST be turned into the Judging booth
2:00 Awards presentation
3:00 to ??? Enjoy the rest of the day . . . exit carefully please

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

On the above event, or any particular Club or marque in attendance today b
most have Web pages, and can be linked by going to the San Diego British Car
Day Website at: www.sandiegobritishcarday.org or by calling the information
line: 760-746-1458

Pre-Registration Fee: $20.00 per car
Make Check Payable to: BCCC
MAIL BY SEPT. 12th to: San Diego British Car Club Council
P. O. Box 710131
San Diego, CA 92171-0131

QUESTIONS?
Please call San Diego British Car Day
Information Line: 760 - 746 - 1458
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Thank you!

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 18 19:56:26 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:56:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Correct info - SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY - Sunday,
 October 5, 2008
Message-ID: <18219634.1219110987052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Folks,

Sorry but the recent publication of the info about the San Diego British Car
Meet was a confused communication that is totally wrong - Hope you don't mind
deleting the first one I sent and pay attention to this one.

Sorry about the confusion - thanks for your understanding ...

Rick Feibusch
British Car Network
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

29th San Diego British Car Day and Picnic
Admiral Baker Field, San Diego, CA
Sunday, October 5, 2008

San Diego British Car Day Website at:
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Twenty-nine years ago, a hearty band of British car enthusiasts got together
over picnics at a park to view each otherbs cars, and enjoy each otherbs
friendship. This year, we return to that heritage. Over
the past 29 years the event has grown considerably and now attracts
participants from all over California and beyond. We are proud that this event
has become one of the premier British car shows in California. In the past few
years, we have incurred considerable additional expenses relating to, among
other things, forming a corporation, and insurance. Thus, we have made some
changes in keeping with the original spirit of the event. For

instance, there will be no vendors, program or raffle at this yearbs show.
We continue to provide a wonderful experience, the very popular Cameron
Highlander Bagpipers and over 400 diverse English cars for your viewing
pleasure. Have a Great Day!!

Pre-Registration Fee: $20.00 per car
Make Check Payable to: BCCC
MAIL BY SEPT. 12th to: San Diego British Car Club Council
P. O. Box 710131
San Diego, CA 92171-0131

QUESTIONS?
Please call San Diego British Car Day
Information Line: 760 - 746 - 1458
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Thank you!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Aug 18 20:28:45 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:28:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com><52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net><006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
Message-ID: <409DB341D9364A4C8C3D82E418F95D3E@blackbox2>

I think the rear window seal from JC Whitney is still good.
I see a part number in the catalog as MF812480 under the heading
"Window Weatherstrip for all vehicles"  It looks like the right stuff.
It's made by Fairchild Industries.

Look up Fairchild Industries on the web and low and behold:
http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?cat=3

I can't find anything close to 12DF6584T.  Not that JCW doesn't 
have it.  Its just I don't know what I am looking for as far as the 
cross section goes.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at mac.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?


> Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.
> 
> At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
> close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
> number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
> rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
> remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
> rest of the number remained the same.
> 
> Bob Kitterer

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Aug 18 20:44:00 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <409DB341D9364A4C8C3D82E418F95D3E@blackbox2>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com><52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net><006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
	<409DB341D9364A4C8C3D82E418F95D3E@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <48AA3370.8060303@cox.net>

I believe the 0690 is what JC Whitney is selling.

Fairchild Industries:
http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?part=98

*JC Whitney
http://tinyurl.com/67fucg*

Paul

Dean Hedin wrote:
> I think the rear window seal from JC Whitney is still good.
> I see a part number in the catalog as MF812480 under the heading
> "Window Weatherstrip for all vehicles"  It looks like the right stuff.
> It's made by Fairchild Industries.
>
> Look up Fairchild Industries on the web and low and behold:
> http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?cat=3
>
> I can't find anything close to 12DF6584T.  Not that JCW doesn't 
> have it.  Its just I don't know what I am looking for as far as the 
> cross section goes.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at mac.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
>
>
>   
>> Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.
>>
>> At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
>> close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
>> number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
>> rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
>> remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
>> rest of the number remained the same.
>>
>> Bob Kitterer
>>     
> _________

From p.herder at cox.net  Mon Aug 18 20:45:58 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:45:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <48AA3370.8060303@cox.net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com><52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net><006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
	<409DB341D9364A4C8C3D82E418F95D3E@blackbox2>
	<48AA3370.8060303@cox.net>
Message-ID: <48AA33E6.4080505@cox.net>

#$#@ Thunderbird!  It put * around the JC Whitney name and URL

Below is corrected.

Paul

Paul Herder wrote:
> I believe the 0690 is what JC Whitney is selling.
>
> Fairchild Industries:
> http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?part=98
>
> JC Whitney
> http://tinyurl.com/67fucg
>
> Paul
>
> Dean Hedin wrote:
>   
>> I think the rear window seal from JC Whitney is still good.
>> I see a part number in the catalog as MF812480 under the heading
>> "Window Weatherstrip for all vehicles"  It looks like the right stuff.
>> It's made by Fairchild Industries.
>>
>> Look up Fairchild Industries on the web and low and behold:
>> http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?cat=3
>>
>> I can't find anything close to 12DF6584T.  Not that JCW doesn't 
>> have it.  Its just I don't know what I am looking for as far as the 
>> cross section goes.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at mac.com>
>> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
>>
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Yes Bill has been the provider of period correct seals for the hard top.
>>>
>>> At least a few years ago you could get seals that matched or were  
>>> close enough, except for color, from JC Whitneys.  12DF6584T was the  
>>> number for the windlace seals and 81DF248U was the number for the  
>>> rear window glass seal.  A couple of letters or numbers (don't  
>>> remember which, changed with every catalog that they printed but the  
>>> rest of the number remained the same.
>>>
>>> Bob Kitterer
>>>     
>>>       
>> _________

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 18 22:03:14 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:03:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Correct info - SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY -  Sunday,
 October 5, 2008
In-Reply-To: <18219634.1219110987052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <18219634.1219110987052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <34B60192-9E8A-437A-9AFD-886CE2542BF4@mac.com>

It should be noted that this has returned to a picnic event  - - - -   
there will be NO FOOD venders and there is NO FOOD close by so bring  
your own lunch.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:56 PM, rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:

> Dear Folks,
>
> Sorry but the recent publication of the info about the San Diego  
> British Car
> Meet was a confused communication that is totally wrong - Hope you  
> don't mind
> deleting the first one I sent and pay attention to this one.
>
> Sorry about the confusion - thanks for your understanding ...
>
> Rick Feibusch
> British Car Network
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> 29th San Diego British Car Day and Picnic
> Admiral Baker Field, San Diego, CA
> Sunday, October 5, 2008
>
> San Diego British Car Day Website at:
> www.sandiegobritishcarday.org
>
> Twenty-nine years ago, a hearty band of British car enthusiasts got  
> together
> over picnics at a park to view each otherbs cars, and enjoy each  
> otherbs
> friendship. This year, we return to that heritage. Over
> the past 29 years the event has grown considerably and now attracts
> participants from all over California and beyond. We are proud that  
> this event
> has become one of the premier British car shows in California. In  
> the past few
> years, we have incurred considerable additional expenses relating  
> to, among
> other things, forming a corporation, and insurance. Thus, we have  
> made some
> changes in keeping with the original spirit of the event. For
>
> instance, there will be no vendors, program or raffle at this  
> yearbs show.
> We continue to provide a wonderful experience, the very popular  
> Cameron
> Highlander Bagpipers and over 400 diverse English cars for your  
> viewing
> pleasure. Have a Great Day!!
>
> Pre-Registration Fee: $20.00 per car
> Make Check Payable to: BCCC
> MAIL BY SEPT. 12th to: San Diego British Car Club Council
> P. O. Box 710131
> San Diego, CA 92171-0131
>
> QUESTIONS?
> Please call San Diego British Car Day
> Information Line: 760 - 746 - 1458
> www.sandiegobritishcarday.org
>
> Thank you!
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 18 22:05:38 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:05:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <007501c9018d$27a633f0$76f29bd0$@net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
	<006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
	<007501c9018d$27a633f0$76f29bd0$@net>
Message-ID: <8074011C-8EA0-4394-BFEA-3CD1E5717E80@mac.com>

This is (was?) his email address:

tricarb at aol.com


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Leo wrote:

> Bob, do you by chance have Bill Bolton's contact info?  I bought my  
> seals
> from him at least 6 years ago and stuck them away till this year  
> when I
> finally got to install them. I cant find his info as I looked today.
>
> Thanks
> Leo

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 18 22:26:40 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:26:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop door seals?
In-Reply-To: <48AA3370.8060303@cox.net>
References: <20080818.090051.11141.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
	<52205488-2FFB-44F0-924D-2F7A06A971F2@comcast.net>
	<006401c9017b$015fcab0$041f6010$@net>
	<0A476440-3C72-4264-B24A-B00A49260D3A@mac.com>
	<409DB341D9364A4C8C3D82E418F95D3E@blackbox2>
	<48AA3370.8060303@cox.net>
Message-ID: <D4472F2E-F70A-47A0-B78A-35CD92CBE603@mac.com>

The window seal looks correct - - - It's hard to realize that it has  
been 11 years since I did mine.

A quick check of JCW online and the following number is at least  
close to the door seals BUT the wind lace is vinyl and only available  
in black and the dimensions need to be checked.   ZX132561U  This is  
not the cross section of the original but will function the same if  
the dimensions are correct.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 18, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Paul Herder wrote:

> I believe the 0690 is what JC Whitney is selling.
>
> Fairchild Industries:
> http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?part=98
>
> *JC Whitney
> http://tinyurl.com/67fucg*
>
> Paul
>
> Dean Hedin wrote:
>> I think the rear window seal from JC Whitney is still good.
>> I see a part number in the catalog as MF812480 under the heading
>> "Window Weatherstrip for all vehicles"  It looks like the right  
>> stuff.
>> It's made by Fairchild Industries.
>>
>> Look up Fairchild Industries on the web and low and behold:
>> http://www.fairchildind.com/app/standard_products.asp?cat=3
>>
>> I can't find anything close to 12DF6584T.  Not that JCW doesn't
>> have it.  Its just I don't know what I am looking for as far as the
>> cross section goes.

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Aug 19 06:06:39 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:06:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
In-Reply-To: <264982.13251.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <264982.13251.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48AAB74F.4080606@lehigh.edu>

Hi Vigil,
That is an interesting story, and quite an accomplishment. I'd love to 
hear some details of how bad the parts were and what was required. Is it 
possible that being in water actually slows down the oxidation? Looking 
for new storage ideas. <bg>
John
Fogelsville, PA


uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> My brother in law bought a farm in Mich. It had a good size pond so he decided
> to try out some scuba gear he just bought before going to Florida with a group
> diving. He found he had a 68 MGB and a old tractor in the pond. He pulled out
> the tractor that day. He cleaned it all up and got it working to use around
> the place. He pulled out the MGB just before winter. Put it in his pole barn
> and worked on it thought out the winter. The next summer he drove it to
> California to visit. Then we went North to the Canadian rockies. for vacation.
> >From there we came south home and he went across one of the Canadian highways
> home. He owned the car for eight or nine years before selling it. It was a
> very nice car. Better then most of the MGB's around in California. So there is
> nothing wrong with a car pulled from a lake or water if treaded
> correctly after it has been removed from water. I have seen things even saved
> from salt water. Not a car - but it is
>  possible.
>   
> Vigil

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 19 06:30:15 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:30:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Carfax VIN search
Message-ID: <014101c901f7$565794e0$3d03f204@spider>

I thought the story was going to end that the car was hot ...stolen. ...bill

 

===================================================

uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:

> My brother in law bought a farm in Mich. It had a good size pond so he
decided

> to try out some scuba gear he just bought before going to Florida with a
group

> diving. He found he had a 68 MGB and a old tractor in the pond. He pulled
out

> the tractor that day. He cleaned it all up and got it working to use
around

> the place. He pulled out the MGB just before winter. Put it in his pole
barn

> and worked on it thought out the winter. The next summer he drove it to

> California to visit. Then we went North to the Canadian rockies. for
vacation.

> >From there we came south home and he went across one of the Canadian
highways

> home. He owned the car for eight or nine years before selling it. It was a

> very nice car. Better then most of the MGB's around in California. So
there is

> nothing wrong with a car pulled from a lake or water if treaded

> correctly after it has been removed from water. I have seen things even
saved

> from salt water. Not a car - but it is

>  possible.

>   

> Vigil

_______________________________________________

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Aug 19 09:37:09 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:37:09 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop seals?
Message-ID: <20080819.093709.24452.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

Thanks, I have an email out to this address, I'll post to the list when, and
if, I get an answer.


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

Post
<http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=211&sid=fb53080b89869ece5d7
9795baeea3
854#p211>by
*Herbytoy
<http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/memberlist.php?mode=view
profile&u=38&sid=fb53080b89869ece5d79795baeea3854>*
on Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:39 pm

For original hardtop seals and parts try Bolt-On Healeys (Bill Bolton),
Tricarb at aol.com <mailto:Tricarb at aol.com>, PH: 541-895-5576, FX:
541-895-4091. This info is about 1-2 years old so don't if any has changed.

Note:  info is actually 5-6 years old since post was in 2004!

Anyone who have current info please post to the list.

Thanks!

Paul


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From Weslake1330 at aol.com  Tue Aug 19 11:54:06 2008
From: Weslake1330 at aol.com (Weslake1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:54:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
Message-ID: <cd5.380cbab8.35dc62be@aol.com>

The Nifty Adjustable Spring is very nice and I do have one in my  garage.  
APT are also folks who really know there stuff.
 
However, APT will tell you, if you ask that the, Nifty Adjustable Spring  
cannot be fitted to the in-line A-series engine but that one day they will make  
one that does.
 
Regards
 
W E S L A K E 1330
 
In a message dated 18/08/2008 22:25:58 GMT Daylight Time, hannamj at juno.com  
writes:

Or, I  bought a nifty adjustable
pressure relief valve with a new shorter spring.  Now I can dial in any
pressure I like. Go for 55 to 60 PSI hot max. Any  more and you risk
overheating the oil at the journals, causing oil leaks,  robbing precious HP,
etc. I got my adjustable pressure relief valve from  APT. They are very nice
folks who really know their stuff. In dealing with  APT you will not be sorry.
Mark and Joanna  (AN5-Colorado)

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Tue Aug 19 12:21:50 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:21:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop seals?
Message-ID: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

Yes, Bill is still at TRICARB at aol.com, I just received a return email- Thanks
to all, I may use the JCW seal when I repaint the top, in the meantime, I'll
use Bill for the window seals and windlace.

Thanks again, it's great to have references like you all,


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Aug 19 13:27:18 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:27:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>

Where does the *#@& turn signal flasher can go?  I can't find any orphaned 
wires or plugs in the right colors.  I am not even sure there are any wrong 
colored orphaned wires in a likely place under the dash, certainly no 
socket, if it is supposed to have one.  The hazzard flasher system is all 
working, and it looks like the turn signal flasher should be part of the 
same system.

It is now clear that I am missing a plug (with two tails and bullet 
connectors) that goes on the brake pressure sensor.  This sensor is 
different from two described by Jim Johnson, so it may not even be the 
correct one for this car.  It has three parts - live/male, live/female, 
dead/male - and it looks like the live male and female parts may be 
connected internally.    Is this the right sensor?  If so, where do I find a 
plug.  If not right, the catalogue only shows the sensor, not the plug.  Any 
advice?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 13:43:35 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:43:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>

IIRC, on a 74 the blinker flasher is with the hazard flasher.  Mine
were in the radio console.  When I pulled the radio console I just
tucked the wiring up under the dash and tied it to something.  I think
it goes on the hot side of the turn signal switch.
I may have some bits of that harness about.  I'll look around when I get home.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 13:45:00 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:45:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808191245u374f72d3n16a632245f8b7eac@mail.gmail.com>

P.S.  You are pretty entertaining on "Dirty Jobs".  Seems like you may
be slumming a little with us Spridget types.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 19 14:07:41 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:07:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com><8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>

> IIRC, on a 74 the blinker flasher is with the hazard flasher.  Mine
> were in the radio console.  When I pulled the radio console I just
> tucked the wiring up under the dash and tied it to something.  I think
> it goes on the hot side of the turn signal switch.
> I may have some bits of that harness about.  I'll look around when I get 
> home.

NO. Two separate flasher relays. The one for the hazards is in the console. 
The one for the signals is under the hood on the front of the firewall near 
the hinge.
David Lieb

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 15:14:03 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:14:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with two separate flashers, but I thought both of mine were in
the radio console.  I can't picture one under the hood on my 74, but I
sold it a while back and can't go out and look at it anymore.
When I wrote "with the hazard flasher"  I didn't mean they were one
unit, just that I thought they were in the same wiring bundle and
proximity.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 15:27:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:27:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>

Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the
firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical types) next to
the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with two separate flashers, but I thought both of mine were in
> the radio console.  I can't picture one under the hood on my 74, but I
> sold it a while back and can't go out and look at it anymore.
> When I wrote "with the hazard flasher"  I didn't mean they were one
> unit, just that I thought they were in the same wiring bundle and
> proximity.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Aug 19 15:29:11 2008
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:29:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
Message-ID: <2b2fe01c90242$9f3c8350$056a010a@mail2world.com>

They did, but it seems only for the 1500s. Mine's on the RH side of the
car on the firewall INSIDE the car. 2 prongs.
 
Still has the hazard flasher in the console.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: 8/19/2008 5:25:09 PM
To: derf247 at gmail.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor 

Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the 
firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical types)
next to 
the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall. 

Cheers!! 
Jim 

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote: 

> I agree with two separate flashers, but I thought both of mine were in
> the radio console. I can't picture one under the hood on my 74, but I 
> sold it a while back and can't go out and look at it anymore. 
> When I wrote "with the hazard flasher" I didn't mean they were one 
> unit, just that I thought they were in the same wiring bundle and 
> proximity. 
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 15:30:31 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:30:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808191430j786f0bd0p19340633fdd480fe@mail.gmail.com>

That makes sense, near the fuse block, right?  But the later Midgets
all had the radio consoles and maybe a different place to put relays.

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the
> firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical types) next to
> the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 19 15:43:30 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:43:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910808191430j786f0bd0p19340633fdd480fe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C879B3B367DE463DA4DA091C0EC82ED7@NilesAD.von.gov>

My 72, my 73, my 74, and my previous 74 all had the signal flasher as 
described by Jim and the hazard flasher in the logical spot in the console. 
All of them had consoles, too.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 16:30
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor


> That makes sense, near the fuse block, right?  But the later Midgets
> all had the radio consoles and maybe a different place to put relays.
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the
>> firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical types) next 
>> to
>> the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall. 

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Aug 19 15:48:34 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:48:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4F115B05-BEB6-4391-A221-92B9EDF3CDCF@valentinephoto.net>

On the (2) 74 Midgets sitting in my garage,  the signal flashers are  
under the dash on the right hand side.

On my 71 it is on the firewall near the right bonnet hinge in the  
engine bay.

Kevin V.



On Aug 19, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the
> firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical  
> types) next to
> the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree with two separate flashers, but I thought both of mine  
>> were in
>> the radio console.  I can't picture one under the hood on my 74,  
>> but I
>> sold it a while back and can't go out and look at it anymore.
>> When I wrote "with the hazard flasher"  I didn't mean they were one
>> unit, just that I thought they were in the same wiring bundle and
>> proximity.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 16:55:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:55:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <4F115B05-BEB6-4391-A221-92B9EDF3CDCF@valentinephoto.net>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
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Okay. That settles it.  They put them where ever the guy working that day on
the factory line felt like...    ;-)     We got that figured out, now who
buys the beer....?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:48 PM, K. Valentine <kevin at valentinephoto.net>wrote:

> On the (2) 74 Midgets sitting in my garage,  the signal flashers are under
> the dash on the right hand side.
>
> On my 71 it is on the firewall near the right bonnet hinge in the engine
> bay.
>
> Kevin V.
>
>
>
> On Aug 19, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>  Unless they changed it after 1968, the turn signal flasher is on the
>> firewall, right side (starboard for you aviation and nautical types) next
>> to
>> the bonnet hinge. It grounds to the firewall.
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:14 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I agree with two separate flashers, but I thought both of mine were in
>>> the radio console.  I can't picture one under the hood on my 74, but I
>>> sold it a while back and can't go out and look at it anymore.
>>> When I wrote "with the hazard flasher"  I didn't mean they were one
>>> unit, just that I thought they were in the same wiring bundle and
>>> proximity.
>>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Aug 19 17:01:42 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:01:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808191555o79c5018fnf6fd78041f6a729a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com><8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home><5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com><76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov><5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com><4F115B05-BEB6-4391-A221-92B9EDF3CDCF@valentinephoto.net>
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I'll drink to that. ...bill
================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:55 PM
To: K. Valentine
Cc: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor

Okay. That settles it.  They put them where ever the guy working that day on
the factory line felt like...    ;-)     We got that figured out, now who
buys the beer....?

Cheers!!
Jim

From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 17:49:47 2008
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:49:47 -0300
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Miata Question
Message-ID: <62b83300808191649sde6b732r855606c950c2578@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to hit the list with this, but I know several of you have Miatas. A
friend bought a Miata and wants to know where to get boot cover of good
quality without paying and arm and leg.

TIA
Brent

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 19 18:04:24 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:04:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC - Miata Question
In-Reply-To: <62b83300808191649sde6b732r855606c950c2578@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62b83300808191649sde6b732r855606c950c2578@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808191704s17efbec5w4b05b185540ffe6d@mail.gmail.com>

>From me.  If he/she wants a black NA (first gen) boot cover, have
him/her shoot me an email with a reasonable offer.  I have one that
has been in the trunk for over a year and never deployed by me.

If he/she needs anything else or has something to trade, let me know.
Cheers,
Derf

From hannamj at juno.com  Tue Aug 19 18:49:29 2008
From: hannamj at juno.com (Mark & Joanna)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:49:29 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
Message-ID: <20080819.184929.6526.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com>

APT told me that I could have problems with the knurled knob fitting on my
North/South "A" series engine if I have a modern pre-engaged starter
installed. I do have one of those starters. It has plenty of room. I'm not
sure which starter has the clearance issue. If you did have a clearance
problem with the knob, cut it off and file flats onto the top of the threaded
pressure adjusting screw. Problem solved :-)
Mark  (AN5-Colorado)

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 19 19:18:02 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:18:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
Message-ID: <48AB70CA.3050508@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> Where does the *#@& turn signal flasher can go?  

Signal flasher is a 2 prong on a 74, it is up under the dash behind the 
glove box.
hazard flasher is in the console.
Bugeyes thru 67 had a 3 prong flasher under the bonnet near the right hinge.
68-70 (or so) had a 2 prong flasher near the right hinge, after that it 
was moved to inside the car again near the right hinge but harder to 
find up under the dash.
On a 74, the brake light switch should be a 2 wire (bullet pigtails) off 
the pedal box.
Kevin found a good quality NAPA switch that almost fits and works great. 
Substancially


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Tue Aug 19 19:47:36 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:47:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <48AB70CA.3050508@comcast.net>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home> <48AB70CA.3050508@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <829D3962-1FA7-47D1-BB7C-550A66DC6ED8@valentinephoto.net>

On Aug 19, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Frank Clarici wrote:

>
> On a 74, the brake light switch should be a 2 wire (bullet  
> pigtails) off
> the pedal box.
> Kevin found a good quality NAPA switch that almost fits and works  
> great.
> Substancially



NAPA     ECH SL 153


To use this switch you need to rethread the pedal box so the switch  
will fit.

IIRC, the threads on the switch are 10mm x 1.25pitch, but check them  
before you rethread the box.  (It is a very sturdy switch and looks  
correct for the application).

Kevin V.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Tue Aug 19 19:50:52 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:50:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com><8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<48AB70CA.3050508@comcast.net>
	<829D3962-1FA7-47D1-BB7C-550A66DC6ED8@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <70310776B6E64C89A7EEA42C12361F75@midget>

>> On a 74, the brake light switch should be a 2 wire (bullet
>> pigtails) off the pedal box.
>> Kevin found a good quality NAPA switch that almost fits and works
>> great. Substancially

But that would be the brake light switch and NOT the brake pressure switch 
referenced in the subject line. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 19 20:01:12 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:01:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <70310776B6E64C89A7EEA42C12361F75@midget>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com><8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<48AB70CA.3050508@comcast.net>
	<829D3962-1FA7-47D1-BB7C-550A66DC6ED8@valentinephoto.net>
	<70310776B6E64C89A7EEA42C12361F75@midget>
Message-ID: <48AB7AE8.9090600@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>>> great. Substancially
>>>       
>
> But that would be the brake light switch and NOT the brake pressure switch 
> referenced in the subject line. 
>   
Oh yeah, I did read that. I rip those useless thing out and put in a 
regular 4 way junction.
Who needs a switch to tell you your brakes have failed AFTER you find 
out the pedal just went to the floor?
Like OH SHIT, no brakes! Oh Cool! A light to tell me I have no brakes 
just came on.
So you unplug it because it's always on now or until you fix the brakes.
Sort of like black tape over the check engine light since that bulb 
isn't easy to get out ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Aug 19 20:05:52 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:05:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop seals?
In-Reply-To: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00f901c90269$463e4f00$d2baed00$@net>

Be forewarned!!!  The windlass and seal BOTH are a bear to install.  Install
the rubber using weather strip adhesive and lots of little clamps. Then plan
the spacing for the clips, install them, and then install the windlass with
small amounts of glue also otherwise the small clips wont be able to hold
the windlass.  REAL PIA to not get glue on the cream windlass.  If I was
going to go to the trouble of installing the seals and windlass the top
would be painted before hand.  You only want to do it once as the seals and
windlass arent exactly cheap and I doubt if you could remove the seal
without tearing it.  The flap which goes over the flange and under the
windlass is quite thin.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Mark Haynes
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:22 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hardtop seals?

Yes, Bill is still at TRICARB at aol.com, I just received a return email-
Thanks
to all, I may use the JCW seal when I repaint the top, in the meantime, I'll
use Bill for the window seals and windlace.

Thanks again, it's great to have references like you all,


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From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Aug 19 20:11:17 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:11:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <008601c9026a$0804c8d0$62451645@normoffice>

Greetings All.

I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the shop
working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the clutch was
pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I pull the engine
beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 inch.  The number on
the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?

While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a
full-bore racing clutch.

I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed discs
annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 years.  I
haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system in the Turner.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner Mk1

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug 19 20:51:58 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:51:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <48AB7AE8.9090600@comcast.net>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>,
	<70310776B6E64C89A7EEA42C12361F75@midget>,
	<48AB7AE8.9090600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48AB245E.20805.2C101CF@dmg.bossig.com>

Now that you mention it...
Wat about the spridget generator and main beam lamps...
How *do* you get that damn holder out of the speedo and tach housing

On 19 Aug 2008 at 22:01, Frank Clarici wrote:
>> Sort of like black tape over the check engine light since that bulb
>> isn't easy to get out ;)

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 19 21:10:27 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <008601c9026a$0804c8d0$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <466629.31128.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Tilton. Call Rod at Spridgetech.


--- On Tue, 8/19/08, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:

> From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
> To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Vintage Racing Digest" <vintage-race at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008, 9:11 PM
> Greetings All.
> 
> I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While
> out there, the shop
> working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to
> tell me the clutch was
> pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until
> I pull the engine
> beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4
> inch.  The number on
> the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?
> 
> While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving
> a BRG, RHD
> Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't
> necessarily need a
> full-bore racing clutch.
> 
> I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB
> & just changed discs
> annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few
> times for 6 years.  I
> haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget
> system in the Turner.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Norm Sippel
> '59 Turner Mk1
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From beatlemikey at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 19 21:18:53 2008
From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
Message-ID: <72370.86036.qm@web56014.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Quite a tale, Vigil.  I heard they were going to raise the Titanic, rejoin the hull, patch the iceberg hole, get it seaworthy and use it for South Sea cruising.

Mike


Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:06:39 -0400
From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carfax VIN search
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Message-ID: <48AAB74F.4080606 at lehigh.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Vigil,
That is an interesting story, and quite an accomplishment. I'd love to 
hear some details of how bad the parts were and what was required. Is it 
possible that being in water actually slows down the oxidation? Looking 
for new storage ideas. <bg>
John
Fogelsville, PA


uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> My brother in law bought a farm in Mich. It had a good size pond so he decided
> to try out some scuba gear he just bought before going to Florida with a group
> diving. He found he had a 68 MGB and a old tractor in the pond. He pulled out
> the tractor that day. He cleaned it all up and got it working to use around
> the place. He pulled out the MGB just before winter. Put it in his pole barn
> and worked on it thought out the winter. The next summer he drove it to
> California to visit. Then we went North to the Canadian rockies. for vacation.
> >From there we came south home and he went across one of the Canadian highways
> home. He owned the car for eight or nine years before selling it. It was a
> very nice car. Better then most of the MGB's around in California. So there is
> nothing wrong with a car pulled from a lake or water if treaded
> correctly after it has been removed from water. I have seen things even saved
> from salt water. Not a car - but it is
>  possible.
>   
> Vigil

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Aug 19 21:22:16 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:22:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <48AB245E.20805.2C101CF@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>,
	<70310776B6E64C89A7EEA42C12361F75@midget>,
	<48AB7AE8.9090600@comcast.net> <48AB245E.20805.2C101CF@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48AB8DE8.9000001@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Now that you mention it...
> Wat about the spridget generator and main beam lamps...
> How *do* you get that damn holder out of the speedo and tach housing
>
>   
The plastic holder is in the speedo and tach housings with thin metal 
eared tabs.
They should pull right out. I have snapped a few of those metal tab 
things but a simple copper wire shoved in along with the plastic tube 
will hold it.
Or if all else fails, glue but then you have to ground the bulb sockets, 
that's why I use a thin strand of copper after I learned the glue and no 
clip meant no ground for the bulb.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Aug 19 22:34:42 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:34:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <008601c9026a$0804c8d0$62451645@normoffice>
References: <008601c9026a$0804c8d0$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <48AB9EE2.7020106@frontiernet.net>

The ideal solution would be to send it to me.  Motorists are polite, 
most use turn signals, and rush hour consists of 12 cars.

Kate - still lusting after a RHD anything
>
> While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
> Turner here in Florida would be suicide, 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 07:12:29 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <10883142.1219237949053.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Norm,

Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I may move their some day.

Thanks,

Mike C

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>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM
>To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Vintage Racing
>	Digest <vintage-race at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Greetings All.
>
>I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the shop
>working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the clutch was
>pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I pull the engine
>beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 inch.  The number on
>the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?
>
>While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
>Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a
>full-bore racing clutch.
>
>I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed discs
>annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 years.  I
>haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system in the Turner.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Norm Sippel
>'59 Turner Mk1


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From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Aug 20 07:26:28 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:26:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <10883142.1219237949053.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000f01c902c8$5a774350$62451645@normoffice>

Mike:

I've driven in all but 2 US states (OK & KS) & in Europe & I have never seen
such bad drivers nor such poorly designed roads.  Almost every day just in
this Tampa Bay area there is either a hit & run fatality or a motorcycle
fatality.  Never have I seen so many people run red lights.  And, the main
north-south road here, US 19, is 55 mph speed limit, 3 to 4 lanes in each
direction, strip malls on both sides & cross-overs every 500 feet.  Even in
my SUV I don't feel safe there.

The Turner is BRG & 1250 lbs.  With decreased visibility from the right-hand
position, it would be senseless to drive here.

Norm


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:12 AM
To: twobees at sprynet.com; Spridgets Digest; Vintage RacingDigest
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing


Norm,

Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I
may move their some day.

Thanks,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
>Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM
>To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Vintage Racing
>	Digest <vintage-race at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Greetings All.
>
>I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the
>shop working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the
>clutch was pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I
>pull the engine beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4
>inch.  The number on the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what
>that is?
>
>While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD
>Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a
>full-bore racing clutch.
>
>I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed
>discs annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6
>years.  I haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system
>in the Turner.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Norm Sippel
>'59 Turner Mk1


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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Aug 20 08:03:57 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Flasher, Brake Pressure Sensor
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808191555o79c5018fnf6fd78041f6a729a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080819.122150.247.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com>
	<8ACE917D90544C6CAF9A70E1A38AA302@Home>
	<5f00d9910808191243j51a0c26ct5934d58385db64b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<76D5412B2B834259BF6CB08D7182575D@NilesAD.von.gov>
	<5f00d9910808191414h73ab95f1l50088eafc0225a9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808191427x4481d88ave842a6bcaef8a9c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<4F115B05-BEB6-4391-A221-92B9EDF3CDCF@valentinephoto.net>
	<43840a7e0808191555o79c5018fnf6fd78041f6a729a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <541E6DCDB6174B67B91A1F348A22CD09@Home>

>Okay. That settles it.  They put them where ever the guy working that day 
>on
> the factory line felt like...

Uhh......Thanks..... I guess.  But I can't afford enough beer for all the 
people who weighed in on this one.  I spent all my money on parts.

Michael Rowe

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 09:17:14 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:17:14 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] traffic calming ?
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37E2588F9CEEEBF6C7056CB8680@phx.gbl>

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/080820/K082002AU.html

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 09:34:13 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:34:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <082020081534.26527.48AC3975000D383F0000679F2215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Forgive my ignorance, but whats a Turner?  wikipedia has nothing.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Norm 2Bs" <twobees at sprynet.com> 

> Mike: 
> 
> I've driven in all but 2 US states (OK & KS) & in Europe & I have never seen 
> such bad drivers nor such poorly designed roads. Almost every day just in 
> this Tampa Bay area there is either a hit & run fatality or a motorcycle 
> fatality. Never have I seen so many people run red lights. And, the main 
> north-south road here, US 19, is 55 mph speed limit, 3 to 4 lanes in each 
> direction, strip malls on both sides & cross-overs every 500 feet. Even in 
> my SUV I don't feel safe there. 
> 
> The Turner is BRG & 1250 lbs. With decreased visibility from the right-hand 
> position, it would be senseless to drive here. 
> 
> Norm 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:12 AM 
> To: twobees at sprynet.com; Spridgets Digest; Vintage RacingDigest 
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
> 
> 
> Norm, 
> 
> Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide? Just curious as I 
> may move their some day. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mike C 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> >From: Norm 2Bs 
> >Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM 
> >To: Spridgets Digest , Vintage Racing 
> > Digest 
> >Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
> > 
> >Greetings All. 
> > 
> >I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey. While out there, the 
> >shop working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the 
> >clutch was pretty shot. I won't know what size is in there until I 
> >pull the engine beginning tomorrow night. But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 
> >inch. The number on the pressure plate is HA1062. Anyone know what 
> >that is? 
> > 
> >While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD 
> >Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a 
> >full-bore racing clutch. 
> > 
> >I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed 
> >discs annually. That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 
> >years. I haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system 
> >in the Turner. 
> > 
> >Any suggestions? 
> > 
> >Thanks in advance. 
> > 
> >Norm Sippel 
> >'59 Turner Mk1 
> 
> 
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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 10:00:34 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:00:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <3781660.1219248034145.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

A very lovely English Sports car - look at the site TurnerSportscars.com

Mike C
-----Original Message-----
>From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
>Sent: Aug 20, 2008 11:34 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Forgive my ignorance, but whats a Turner?  wikipedia has nothing.
>
>-------------- Original message -------------- 
>From: "Norm 2Bs" <twobees at sprynet.com> 
>
>> Mike: 
>> 
>> I've driven in all but 2 US states (OK & KS) & in Europe & I have never seen 
>> such bad drivers nor such poorly designed roads. Almost every day just in 
>> this Tampa Bay area there is either a hit & run fatality or a motorcycle 
>> fatality. Never have I seen so many people run red lights. And, the main 
>> north-south road here, US 19, is 55 mph speed limit, 3 to 4 lanes in each 
>> direction, strip malls on both sides & cross-overs every 500 feet. Even in 
>> my SUV I don't feel safe there. 
>> 
>> The Turner is BRG & 1250 lbs. With decreased visibility from the right-hand 
>> position, it would be senseless to drive here. 
>> 
>> Norm 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mike/Donna Carpenter [mailto:mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:12 AM 
>> To: twobees at sprynet.com; Spridgets Digest; Vintage RacingDigest 
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
>> 
>> 
>> Norm, 
>> 
>> Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide? Just curious as I 
>> may move their some day. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Mike C 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> >From: Norm 2Bs 
>> >Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM 
>> >To: Spridgets Digest , Vintage Racing 
>> > Digest 
>> >Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
>> > 
>> >Greetings All. 
>> > 
>> >I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey. While out there, the 
>> >shop working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the 
>> >clutch was pretty shot. I won't know what size is in there until I 
>> >pull the engine beginning tomorrow night. But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 
>> >inch. The number on the pressure plate is HA1062. Anyone know what 
>> >that is? 
>> > 
>> >While I will only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD 
>> >Turner here in Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a 
>> >full-bore racing clutch. 
>> > 
>> >I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just changed 
>> >discs annually. That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times for 6 
>> >years. I haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system 
>> >in the Turner. 
>> > 
>> >Any suggestions? 
>> > 
>> >Thanks in advance. 
>> > 
>> >Norm Sippel 
>> >'59 Turner Mk1 
>> 
>> 


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From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Aug 20 10:05:36 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:05:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39B66C60D4F5B2D9C20367B8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001601c902de$97101a60$62451645@normoffice>

It ISN'T visible!

My first MGB was BRG with black interior.  I was hit 24 times in 2 years.
Once while parked in front of a store & a guy backed right into the nose of
the B.  Said, he "didn't see it."  Think about it - blacktop roads, green
foliage, the car disappears.

Norm

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:29 AM
To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; twobees at sprynet.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing



I was more interested in why the BRG might be an issue!! :)

RHD can be an issue when you are trying to get out of a roadside parking
spot with a car behind you and some left hand turns at intersections.  If
there is a left hand turn lane in both directions, a car in the oncoming
lane cuts your view of oncoming traffic.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/RedTonneau.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/65Sprite.htm


----Original Message Follows----

Norm,

Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I
may move their some day.

Thanks,

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
 >From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
 >Sent: Aug 19, 2008 10:11 PM
 >To: Spridgets Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Vintage Racing
 >	Digest <vintage-race at autox.team.net>
 >Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
 >
 >Greetings All.
 >
 >I'm just back from a hectic week in Monterey.  While out there, the shop
>working on my Turner (948 A engine & trans) called to tell me the clutch
was
 >pretty shot.  I won't know what size is in there until I pull the engine
>beginning tomorrow night.  But, I THINK it's a 7-1/4 inch.  The number on
>the pressure plate is HA1062.  Anyone know what that is?  >  >While I will
only be using the Turner for racing as driving a BRG, RHD  >Turner here in
Florida would be suicide, I don't necessarily need a  >full-bore racing
clutch.  >  >I used the standard heavy-duty Borg & Beck in my MGB & just
changed discs  >annually.  That was a car I drove daily & raced a few times
for 6 years.
I
 >haven't found anything comparable yet for the Spridget system in the
Turner.
 >
 >Any suggestions?
 >
 >Thanks in advance.
 >
 >Norm Sippel
 >'59 Turner Mk1


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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Aug 20 10:07:45 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:07:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <3781660.1219248034145.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <3781660.1219248034145.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48AC4151.3080101@verizon.net>

Maybe you really meant:

http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk

??

Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
> A very lovely English Sports car - look at the site TurnerSportscars.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 10:27:34 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:27:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <001601c902de$97101a60$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39DD6C09E2BFC0D3C8ACF7B8680@phx.gbl>

Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The tow 
truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to 
climb down the hill and touch the tire.



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Norm 2Bs" <twobees at sprynet.com>

It ISN'T visible!

My first MGB was BRG with black interior.  I was hit 24 times in 2 years.
Once while parked in front of a store & a guy backed right into the nose of
the B.  Said, he "didn't see it."  Think about it - blacktop roads, green
foliage, the car disappears.

Norm

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca]

I was more interested in why the BRG might be an issue!! :)

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 10:30:55 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:30:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <628584.1219249855756.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I am glad that I sold my '67 BRG Sprite and my leaf green '59 Bugeye when I did.  I am still alive to tell the tale ;^).

Thanks,

Mike C



-----Original Message-----
>From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
>Sent: Aug 20, 2008 12:05 PM
>To: 'Robert Duquette' <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>, Spridgets
>	Digest <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>It ISN'T visible!
>
>My first MGB was BRG with black interior.  I was hit 24 times in 2 years.
>Once while parked in front of a store & a guy backed right into the nose of
>the B.  Said, he "didn't see it."  Think about it - blacktop roads, green
>foliage, the car disappears.
>
>Norm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:29 AM
>To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; twobees at sprynet.com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>
>
>I was more interested in why the BRG might be an issue!! :)
>
>RHD can be an issue when you are trying to get out of a roadside parking
>spot with a car behind you and some left hand turns at intersections.  If
>there is a left hand turn lane in both directions, a car in the oncoming
>lane cuts your view of oncoming traffic.
>
>http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/RedTonneau.jpg
>http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/65Sprite.htm
>
>


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From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 10:32:33 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:32:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <17191770.1219249953083.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

See, it's that invisibleness thing again.  I am glad my Sevens are very shiny, especially when the sun hits them.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Aug 20, 2008 12:27 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The tow 
>truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to 
>climb down the hill and touch the tire.
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----


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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 10:33:27 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:33:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <082020081633.8387.48AC47570008DF39000020C32215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

Okay.
What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you can't see, red gets to much attention?

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> 

> I am glad that I sold my '67 BRG Sprite and my leaf green '59 Bugeye when I did. 
> I am still alive to tell the tale ;^). 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Mike C 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> >From: Norm 2Bs 
> >Sent: Aug 20, 2008 12:05 PM 
> >To: 'Robert Duquette' , Spridgets 
> > Digest 
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
> > 
> >It ISN'T visible! 
> > 
> >My first MGB was BRG with black interior. I was hit 24 times in 2 years. 
> >Once while parked in front of a store & a guy backed right into the nose of 
> >the B. Said, he "didn't see it." Think about it - blacktop roads, green 
> >foliage, the car disappears. 
> > 
> >Norm 
> > 
> >-----Original Message----- 
> >From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca] 
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:29 AM 
> >To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; twobees at sprynet.com 
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >I was more interested in why the BRG might be an issue!! :) 
> > 
> >RHD can be an issue when you are trying to get out of a roadside parking 
> >spot with a car behind you and some left hand turns at intersections. If 
> >there is a left hand turn lane in both directions, a car in the oncoming 
> >lane cuts your view of oncoming traffic. 
> > 
> >http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/RedTonneau.jpg 
> >http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/65Sprite.htm 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 20 10:41:12 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:41:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <082020081633.8387.48AC47570008DF39000020C32215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
References: <082020081633.8387.48AC47570008DF39000020C32215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48ABE6B8.5324.706698@dmg.bossig.com>

Officially, mine is "Iris Blue"...
I call it "Smurf Blue"

On 20 Aug 2008 at 16:33, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

>> Okay.
>> What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you
>> can't see, red gets to much attention?

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 10:45:02 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <17191770.1219249953083.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F372259F149E9C0B1EFD10BB8680@phx.gbl>

Well ... the invisibility of the car didnt't have anything to do with the 
accident.  The missing sign that would have warned about the hairpin corner 
had more to do with it.

It had lived for 3 years ( 2 owners ) without mishap before that.


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>

See, it's that invisibleness thing again.  I am glad my Sevens are very 
shiny, especially when the sun hits them.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
 >From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
 >
 >Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The tow
 >truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to
 >climb down the hill and touch the tire.
 >
 >
 >
 >----Original Message Follows----


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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 10:48:34 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:48:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
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I'm sure that there's some insurance statistics out there somewhere.  
Regardless of the colour, we are low and small.  Get a horn that makes you 
sound like a Mack truck.

I'm partial to BRG, red, and yellow.


----Original Message Follows----
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net

Okay.
What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you can't 
see, red gets to much attention?

-------------- Original message --------------
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>

 > I am glad that I sold my '67 BRG Sprite and my leaf green '59 Bugeye when 
I did.
 > I am still alive to tell the tale ;^).
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Mike C
 >
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > >From: Norm 2Bs
 > >Sent: Aug 20, 2008 12:05 PM
 > >To: 'Robert Duquette' , Spridgets
 > > Digest
 > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
 > >
 > >It ISN'T visible!
 > >
 > >My first MGB was BRG with black interior. I was hit 24 times in 2 years.
 > >Once while parked in front of a store & a guy backed right into the nose 
of
 > >the B. Said, he "didn't see it." Think about it - blacktop roads, green
 > >foliage, the car disappears.
 > >
 > >Norm
 > >
 > >-----Original Message-----
 > >From: Robert Duquette [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
 > >Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:29 AM
 > >To: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com; twobees at sprynet.com
 > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >I was more interested in why the BRG might be an issue!! :)
 > >
 > >RHD can be an issue when you are trying to get out of a roadside parking
 > >spot with a car behind you and some left hand turns at intersections. If
 > >there is a left hand turn lane in both directions, a car in the oncoming
 > >lane cuts your view of oncoming traffic.
 > >
 > >http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/RedTonneau.jpg
 > >http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/65Sprite.htm
 > >
 > >
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Aug 20 10:48:15 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:48:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
Message-ID: <b9a0a1bf30a297c0a18420a.20080820094815.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>

Anyone know where there is an windshield to frame rubber for a Bugeye? 
Can't seem to locate any from the usual suspects.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 20 11:14:55 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:14:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <5676949.1219252495852.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Yeah, thats it!  I knew it was something like that ;^).

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net>
>Sent: Aug 20, 2008 12:07 PM
>To: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
>Cc: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
>
>Maybe you really meant:
>
>http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk
>
>??
>
>Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:
>> A very lovely English Sports car - look at the site TurnerSportscars.com
>>
>>   
>>   


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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Aug 20 11:15:39 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:15:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
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AH Spares has them :)



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:48 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber

Anyone know where there is an windshield to frame rubber for a Bugeye? 
Can't seem to locate any from the usual suspects.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 11:50:28 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:50:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
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Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I
may move their some day.
Bluehairs in Chebby Capsizes
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Aug 20 11:56:42 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:56:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
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Driving ANYTHING in Florida is suicide!! The dear old blue-haired babes in
their 62 caddies cruising route A1A is truly frightening. I used to 
visit north
of West Palm on a regular basis to visit aging parents. Every day brought a
new and terrifying traffic experience. Doing it all in a RHD car too 
small to
be picked up in trifocals could make this a new Olympic event.

Never Again! Not for any reason!

(Except Florida has a good price on Ardbeg)

chuck

CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I
> may move their some day.
> Bluehairs in Chebby Capsizes

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Aug 20 12:01:09 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
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Thanks Leo.  Was trying to find some closer to home.  Located it already
for low price and shipping will be cheaper.
Mike


Leo
> AH Spares has them :)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
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> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
>
> Anyone know where there is an windshield to frame rubber for a Bugeye?
> Can't seem to locate any from the usual suspects.
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
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From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Aug 20 12:32:15 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:32:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F372259F149E9C0B1EFD10BB8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8AB1678AEEEF4181BB0B474BA24DBA45@GuyLaptop>

Maybe you shouldn't rely on signs to tell you how to cope with corners!

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: 20 August 2008 17:45
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing


Well ... the invisibility of the car didnt't have anything to do with the
accident.  The missing sign that would have warned about the hairpin corner
had more to do with it.

It had lived for 3 years ( 2 owners ) without mishap before that.


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>

See, it's that invisibleness thing again.  I am glad my Sevens are very
shiny, especially when the sun hits them.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
 >From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
 >
 >Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The tow
 >truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to
 >climb down the hill and touch the tire.
 >
 >
 >
 >----Original Message Follows----


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From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 20 12:37:01 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:37:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
In-Reply-To: <252a597a84ca4daa.20080820110109.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
References: <b9a0a1bf30a297c0a18420a.20080820094815.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>,
	<015f01c902e8$5ec07830$1c416890$@net>,
	<252a597a84ca4daa.20080820110109.eeratvarre@webmail.dslextreme.com>
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Don't be shy....  which source did you pick???

On 20 Aug 2008 at 11:01, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:

>>  Located it already
>> for low price and shipping will be cheaper.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 12:52:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:52:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <8AB1678AEEEF4181BB0B474BA24DBA45@GuyLaptop>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F373F1D6BA3C2E0EA532AF2B8680@phx.gbl>

There were other factors.  It was 4 am and I wasn't alone.  It was a twisty 
road and I knew there was a sign where the hairpin was, so I was going 
faster and not paying 100% attention to the road; counting on that sign.  We 
walked away from it with a deep cut to the palm of my hand and probably a 
concussion.

Other lessons that I learned the hard way:

Just because the light turns green doesn't mean that the traffic has stopped 
for their red light.
( company car right off.  I walked away from it with a bruised leg where the 
door came in to meet me. )

Just because it is a one way street, don't just look one way before 
crossing.  ( almost got run over by a wrong way driver. )

There must be more ...


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>

Maybe you shouldn't rely on signs to tell you how to cope with corners!

Guy

-----Original Message-----

Well ... the invisibility of the car didnt't have anything to do with the
accident.  The missing sign that would have warned about the hairpin corner
had more to do with it.

It had lived for 3 years ( 2 owners ) without mishap before that.


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>

See, it's that invisibleness thing again.  I am glad my Sevens are very
shiny, especially when the sun hits them.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
  >From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
  >
  >Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The tow
  >truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to
  >climb down the hill and touch the tire.
  >
  >
  >
  >----Original Message Follows----


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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Aug 20 12:49:19 2008
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:49:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Windshield Rubber
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Not until they ship mine. ;^)
Mike


Dave G.
> Don't be shy....  which source did you pick???
>
> On 20 Aug 2008 at 11:01, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote:
>
>>>  Located it already
>>> for low price and shipping will be cheaper.
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 12:56:56 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:56:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F373F1D6BA3C2E0EA532AF2B8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl>

PS:  I "almost" made it around.  I was about 90% of the way around before 
the RR tire, which was sideways on the shoulder, dug in ... and airborn I 
went!



----Original Message Follows----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>

There were other factors.  It was 4 am and I wasn't alone.  It was a twisty
road and I knew there was a sign where the hairpin was, so I was going
faster and not paying 100% attention to the road; counting on that sign.  We
walked away from it with a deep cut to the palm of my hand and probably a
concussion.

Other lessons that I learned the hard way:

Just because the light turns green doesn't mean that the traffic has stopped
for their red light.
( company car right off.  I walked away from it with a bruised leg where the
door came in to meet me. )

Just because it is a one way street, don't just look one way before
crossing.  ( almost got run over by a wrong way driver. )

There must be more ...


----Original Message Follows----
From: "Guy Weller" <guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk>

Maybe you shouldn't rely on signs to tell you how to cope with corners!

Guy

-----Original Message-----

Well ... the invisibility of the car didnt't have anything to do with the
accident.  The missing sign that would have warned about the hairpin corner
had more to do with it.

It had lived for 3 years ( 2 owners ) without mishap before that.


----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike/Donna Carpenter <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>

See, it's that invisibleness thing again.  I am glad my Sevens are very
shiny, especially when the sun hits them.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
   >From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
   >
   >Oh!  I rolled my BRG MGB over an embankment many many years ago.  The 
tow
   >truck driver couldn't find the car, even when I pointed at it.  I had to
   >climb down the hill and touch the tire.
   >
   >
   >
   >----Original Message Follows----


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From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Aug 20 13:25:10 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:25:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
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As one who drives a Tartan Red Spridget, and a Ruby Red Porsche 356B, I
can tell you from experience that the absolute BEST "color" for your car
is the one with the headlights switched ON and the driver fully
concentrating on the job at hand (that would be driving).  No cell
phones/I-pods, newspapers, books, make-up, or turning away to look at
your passenger.
I can't begin to tell you how many times I've had people pull out right
in front of my red cars (I used to drive a bright red Volkswagen QSW
every day, and (many years ago) a bright red BMW 2002.  I've also
owned/driven white cars, blue cars, green cars, silver cars and black
cars.  I've probably comfortably over a million (accident-free) miles
and, from my experience, no matter WHAT you are driving, or what color
it is: some moron will always pull out in front of you/turn across your
lane, etc.  The only way to avoid them is to have an "escape plan" in
mind at all times and constantly evolving to fit the driving situation
at the moment.
Oh, yeah.....one other (perhaps THE) major thing:  Inclusion in God's
good graces.  You see, the way I look at it is that God does most of the
protecting, but, he expects us to take care of ourselves, too.  If we
get too confident and start doing too much stupid stuff; he's likely to
reach down and SLAP us ;)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:33 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing

Okay.
What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you
can't see, red gets to much attention?

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Aug 20 14:11:45 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:11:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
Message-ID: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>

Ryan asks, "Okay.  What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see
, green you can't see, red gets to much attention?"

Somewhere in the mess that is my library I have a Mercedes brochure that has
the results of a test done in Germany back in the '80s.  I can't find it
right now.  But, I remember that the most visible color was the yellow
Mercedes used back then.  It's a bit brighter & more yellow than MG's
Primrose.  Next, I believe, was white.

Surprisingly, red is not a great color for "visibility" as it appears black
at night.  Only by day & to cops is it most visible.  I can attest to that
as I was "scooting" down I-95 in Connecticut one day in my white Jetta along
with a red Cavalier.  Statie pulled him over.  Didn't even look at me.

Norm

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Aug 20 14:23:05 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:23:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
In-Reply-To: <082020081633.8387.48AC47570008DF39000020C32215555884000001
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Easy. Old English White. Just be sure to get the CORRECT SHADE of OEW. LOL


At 12:33 PM 8/20/2008, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>Okay.
>What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you 
>can't see, red gets to much attention?

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Aug 20 14:24:36 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:24:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
	now colors & drivers
Message-ID: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>

Chuck says, "Driving ANYTHING in Florida is suicide!! The dear old
blue-haired babes in their 62 caddies cruising route A1A is truly
frightening. I used to visit north of West Palm on a regular basis to visit
aging parents. Every day brought a new and terrifying traffic experience.
Doing it all in a RHD car too small to be picked up in trifocals could make
this a new Olympic event.

Never Again! Not for any reason!

(Except Florida has a good price on Ardbeg)



Chuck:

It isn't just old folks.  It's the teenyboppers texting while driving, the
pickup drivers on their way home & chugging a brew, the "under the
influence" drivers of all ages & the 50% of drivers who seem to think that
the car or truck is an ok place to relax & chat on the phone while oblivious
to traffic.

What's an Ardberg?  Not much is priced well here.  Taxes are higher, food is
higher, only thing "cheap" right now is gas at $3.56 for regular.

Norm

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Aug 20 14:36:54 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:36:54 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <20080820.133654.21263.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Almost as bad as my "Primrose", aka badly faded yellow.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
Officially, mine is "Iris Blue"...
I call it "Smurf Blue"

On 20 Aug 2008 at 16:33, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

>> Okay.
>> What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see , green you
>> can't see, red gets to much attention?

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From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Aug 20 14:39:17 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
Message-ID: <20080820.133917.21263.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Yea, I had a friend killed on A1A; he was jogging in a day-glo track suit.

Clay L.



-- chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:
Driving ANYTHING in Florida is suicide!! The dear old blue-haired babes in
their 62 caddies cruising route A1A is truly frightening. I used to
visit north
of West Palm on a regular basis to visit aging parents. Every day brought a
new and terrifying traffic experience. Doing it all in a RHD car too
small to
be picked up in trifocals could make this a new Olympic event.

Never Again! Not for any reason!

(Except Florida has a good price on Ardbeg)

chuck

CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> Whats makes driving the RHD Turner in Florida a suicide?  Just curious as I
> may move their some day.
> Bluehairs in Chebby Capsizes
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Aug 20 14:42:26 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:42:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Traffic Safety
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48AC81B2.3080108@frontiernet.net>

Basic rules for driving in and around Eugene, Oregon

When your light turns green, wait until you see how many cars are going 
to run the red.
Never assume that the car or bicycle going the wrong way on a one way 
street at night will have its lights on as it runs the stop sign it 
would have had had it been going the right way.
When approaching a freeway off ramp, make sure that the car ahead of you 
is not backing up to make the exit he just passed.
When approaching a freeway off ramp, never  assume that the car ahead of 
you is not going to make a U turn in order to make the exit he just passed.
Do not expect  the bicyclist  going the wrong way on a one way, at night 
with no light, in the center of your lane will move to the side of the 
road when he sees you coming.
At a 4 way stop, plan on a steady stream of non stopping traffic from 
the direction of whoever is brave or foolish enough to enter the 
intersection.
Turn signal use is unlawful anywhere in the Lane County area, unless you 
plan to turn the opposite direction from which you are signaling and are 
in the wrong lane for the turn you actually make.
Rear and side view mirror use is unlawful anywhere in the State of Oregon.

This might explain why your mass transit driver is sometimes in a bad humor.

Kate


> Other lessons that I learned the hard way:
>
> Just because the light turns green doesn't mean that the traffic has stopped
> for their red light.

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 20 15:00:17 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:00:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Traffic Safety
In-Reply-To: <48AC81B2.3080108@frontiernet.net>
References: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl>,
	<48AC81B2.3080108@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <48AC2371.6631.15D98D3@dmg.bossig.com>

Kate,

How could you possibly forget about the Farmer Johnson driving his John 
Dere 2210 Field Cultivator down the road at dusk without lights ???

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Aug 20 15:11:32 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:11:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Traffic Safety
References: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl>
	<48AC81B2.3080108@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c90309$530d2850$6401a8c0@universal1>

    While working in New Zealand I had to learn the rules of the road;

        1. If there is someone in front of you, pass them at any cost.

        2. If there is someone behind you, don't let them pass you at any
cost.

    Works for me so far!

                                                                CB

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Aug 20 15:25:26 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:25:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Traffic Safety
In-Reply-To: <003d01c90309$530d2850$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <BAY112-F34C7010370B8A8FEE5F8F4B8680@phx.gbl><48AC81B2.3080108@frontiernet.net>
	<003d01c90309$530d2850$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <078801c9030b$43dde930$1801010a@xp>

 " 1. If there is someone in front of you, pass them at any cost.

   2. If there is someone behind you, don't let them pass you at any cost."



Reminds me of that George Carlin line (if memory serves):

"Ever notice how anyone driving faster than you is a maniac?  And anyone
driving slower than you is an idiot?"


Heard

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 15:48:04 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:48:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now  colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
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3.42 for regular in Texas

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:

>  gas at $3.56 for regular.

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 20 15:51:23 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:51:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now   colors & drivers
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
	<e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A30431224B8840A4B44F8964CA212F33@NilesAD.von.gov>

> 3.42 for regular in Texas

Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 15:53:11 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:53:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now  colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <A30431224B8840A4B44F8964CA212F33@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
	<e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <e98d88090808201453w5b28d651t4b139d711772bc12@mail.gmail.com>

Non Ethanol fuel is still around the 3.57 mark....

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> > 3.42 for regular in Texas
>
> Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Aug 20 15:58:43 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:58:43 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now   colors & dr ivers
Message-ID: <20080820.145843.4153.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Who puts reg'lar in their Spridget?  ...ping, ping, ping.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
Non Ethanol fuel is still around the 3.57 mark....

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> > 3.42 for regular in Texas
>
> Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 16:09:50 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:09:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now  colors & dr ivers
In-Reply-To: <20080820.145843.4153.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
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That's what I run in ours. No ill effects, that I can see or hear.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:58 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Who puts reg'lar in their Spridget?  ...ping, ping, ping.
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
>
> -- "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Non Ethanol fuel is still around the 3.57 mark....
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com
> >wrote:
>
> > > 3.42 for regular in Texas
> >
> > Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 16:39:45 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:39:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP78206268AA68041E14E38B8680@phx.gbl>

White's not good in the snow.

I realize that doesn't affect all on the list, but I think that someone up
here must be nuts to buy a white car ( for winter use ).

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Norm 2Bs
Sent: August 20, 2008 4:12 PM
To: Spridgets Digest; ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors

Ryan asks, "Okay.  What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see
, green you can't see, red gets to much attention?"

Somewhere in the mess that is my library I have a Mercedes brochure that has
the results of a test done in Germany back in the '80s.  I can't find it
right now.  But, I remember that the most visible color was the yellow
Mercedes used back then.  It's a bit brighter & more yellow than MG's
Primrose.  Next, I believe, was white.

Surprisingly, red is not a great color for "visibility" as it appears black
at night.  Only by day & to cops is it most visible.  I can attest to that
as I was "scooting" down I-95 in Connecticut one day in my white Jetta along
with a red Cavalier.  Statie pulled him over.  Didn't even look at me.

Norm
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 16:47:53 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:47:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0808201547oe2a9a83ob38b78e9b99e7af4@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty happy with the Limeflower (light yellow with just a hint of
green) on my '73 Midget.

It doesn't "pop" like a bright yellow but it does seem to stand out in
traffic day or night.

Only drawback I've found is telling people the color is Limeflower!

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Aug 20 17:07:53 2008
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:07:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure too high
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV6F0DA326D3F63E53060BCC8680@phx.gbl>

'Please define "to high" oil pressure'

Per Vizard....
Road car...Series A.....anything over 60psi 
"hot" @ 3,000rpm or higher.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 20 17:10:04 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:10:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now   colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>,
	<e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48AC41DC.473.1D46AAC@dmg.bossig.com>

$3.99 for Regular in this part of Washington State...

On 20 Aug 2008 at 16:48, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> >  gas at $3.56 for regular.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Aug 20 17:15:19 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:15:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
	now colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <48ACA587.6080305@verizon.net>

Hey Norm, Ardbeg is a really nice single-malt scotch whisky that I used
to buy in quantity when visiting the old folks near Stuart in Palm City.
At the time it was made of unobtanium here in NC, but now we can get
it here ... but for way way more dinero than I used to pay in Stuart.

chuck

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Aug 20 17:18:02 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:18:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now    colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <48AC41DC.473.1D46AAC@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>,
	<e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
	<48AC41DC.473.1D46AAC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48ACA62A.5030409@frontiernet.net>

$3.92 in Elko yesterday, with .02 discount with a Maverik card.

Kate

From p.herder at cox.net  Wed Aug 20 17:20:48 2008
From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:20:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now   colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808201453w5b28d651t4b139d711772bc12@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
	<e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com>
	<A30431224B8840A4B44F8964CA212F33@NilesAD.von.gov>
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Message-ID: <48ACA6D0.9020501@cox.net>

Non Ethanol fuel in the Wichita, KS area:  $3.35

Paul Herder
Sedgwick KS
66 Sprite
typing with one hand... Shoulder surgery last Friday... rotator cuff 
torn, ligament torn, muscle torn, bone spur... all fixed... I hope!

Brad Fornal wrote:
> Non Ethanol fuel is still around the 3.57 mark....
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:
>
>   
>>> 3.42 for regular in Texas
>>>       
>> Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
>> David Lieb
>> 1972 1960 1974 1973

From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 17:23:45 2008
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:23:45 -0300
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <62b83300808201623y7d05dd77h8d8c518d0899a628@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know if they do any more, but back in 75 Statefarm used to give me a
discount for my Bright Yellow color on my pickup. They said it was the most
visible color.

Brent



On 8/20/08, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> Ryan asks, "Okay.  What IS a good color to paint LBC's? black you can't see
> , green you can't see, red gets to much attention?"
>
> Somewhere in the mess that is my library I have a Mercedes brochure that
> has
> the results of a test done in Germany back in the '80s.  I can't find it
> right now.  But, I remember that the most visible color was the yellow
> Mercedes used back then.  It's a bit brighter & more yellow than MG's
> Primrose.  Next, I believe, was white.
>
> Surprisingly, red is not a great color for "visibility" as it appears black
> at night.  Only by day & to cops is it most visible.  I can attest to that
> as I was "scooting" down I-95 in Connecticut one day in my white Jetta
> along
> with a red Cavalier.  Statie pulled him over.  Didn't even look at me.
>
> Norm
> _______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 18:01:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:01:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now  colors & drivers
In-Reply-To: <48ACA6D0.9020501@cox.net>
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice>
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	<48ACA6D0.9020501@cox.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808201701l3bc65039gf0ba4876086f73d6@mail.gmail.com>

Yup.  Just paid $3.52 for 91 Octane in Dodge City.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Paul Herder <p.herder at cox.net> wrote:

> Non Ethanol fuel in the Wichita, KS area:  $3.35
>
> Paul Herder
> Sedgwick KS
> 66 Sprite
> typing with one hand... Shoulder surgery last Friday... rotator cuff
> torn, ligament torn, muscle torn, bone spur... all fixed... I hope!
>
> Brad Fornal wrote:
> > Non Ethanol fuel is still around the 3.57 mark....
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> 3.42 for regular in Texas
> >>>
> >> Yeah? But how much for ethanol? ;-)
> >> David Lieb
> >> 1972 1960 1974 1973
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 18:06:52 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:06:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>

Went to Cruise In Night at our local A&W tonight.

Some fun!!  Featured marque tonight was the 1968 MG Midget!

Just like mine!!

Or maybe its because I'm the only one who showed up...

Whatever.

At least I got my burger and root beer float for half price...
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From higgs6 at cogeco.ca  Wed Aug 20 18:18:18 2008
From: higgs6 at cogeco.ca (Greg Higgins)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:18:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel prices in Canada, no LBC
Message-ID: <000a01c90323$6a715240$6601a8c0@HigginsOld>

We are paying $5.58 an imperial gallon (4.5 litres) for regular gas, or $4.96
a U.S. gallon (4 litres) where I live, west of Toronto. Fuel is sold by the
litre Canada, $1.24 today, diesel is the same price, which is unusual, diesel
has been costing more these days.

I drove out to the east coast of Canada last month with my diesel truck and
5th wheel camper, took the ferry to Newfoundland, where the cost of diesel
worked worked to $7.65 an imperial gallon, ($1.70 litre) or $6.80 a U.S.
gallon.

We have been use to paying higher fuel prices for years, the local news said
fuel was going up 2 cents a litre to-nite.


Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Aug 20 18:25:18 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:25:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now   colors & drivers NOW GAS PRICES
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice><e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com><A30431224B8840A4B44F8964CA212F33@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090808201453w5b28d651t4b139d711772bc12@mail.gmail.com><48ACA6D0.9020501@cox.net>
	<43840a7e0808201701l3bc65039gf0ba4876086f73d6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1A96D8E29FEC4CF6819560EAC0BBF856@Dell9200>

Just drove past a new Thornton's Station in Nashville....  3.20  Lowest I 
have seen it in a long time, most stations here are a dime more.

Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>



Yup.  Just paid $3.52 for 91 Octane in Dodge City.

Cheers!!
Jim

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Aug 20 18:43:55 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:43:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
References: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <008b01c90326$fe49cda0$6401a8c0@universal1>

    "Or maybe its because I'm the only one who showed up."

    So, you got; Best of Show, Best in Class, Best in Marque, Best in
Nationality of Marque, Best of European Entries, Best in Sports Car Class,
Best in Custom Class, Best in Small Car Class, Smallest Car Award, Largest Car
Award and Long Distance Award.

    Good Show!! Now where to put all the trophies?

                                                                             
   CB

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 20 18:49:12 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:49:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
In-Reply-To: <008b01c90326$fe49cda0$6401a8c0@universal1>
References: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<008b01c90326$fe49cda0$6401a8c0@universal1>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP194FF48170CCA6606D865FB86B0@phx.gbl>

Yeah!  That's the good news!  But, who pays for the trophies?  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Charley Braum
Sent: August 20, 2008 8:44 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!

    "Or maybe its because I'm the only one who showed up."

    So, you got; Best of Show, Best in Class, Best in Marque, Best in
Nationality of Marque, Best of European Entries, Best in Sports Car Class,
Best in Custom Class, Best in Small Car Class, Smallest Car Award, Largest
Car
Award and Long Distance Award.

    Good Show!! Now where to put all the trophies?

 

   CB

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 20 19:07:40 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:07:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
References: <BAY112-F372259F149E9C0B1EFD10BB8680@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AB988032736249AABFD29CFD857D5FB8@midget>

> Well ... the invisibility of the car didnt't have anything to do with the
> accident.  The missing sign that would have warned about the hairpin 
> corner
> had more to do with it.

I notice that the race tracks tend to put up lovely signs approaching the 
corners for the drivers to use for gauging their approach, too... 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 20 19:10:20 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:10:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Best Spridget Clutch for Racing
References: <082020081633.8387.48AC47570008DF39000020C32215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
	<48ABE6B8.5324.706698@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <FFDA41B66C854E5D96CD4B74AA135384@midget>

> Officially, mine is "Iris Blue"...
> I call it "Smurf Blue"

Naw, a bit pale for that. Miata's Mariner Blue is more of a Smurf... Also 
known as California License Plate Blue ;-) 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug 20 19:16:02 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:16:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
Message-ID: <C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  What IS a good color to paint LBC's?
Well obviously, Olde English White is way too complicated. 

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 19:22:55 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:22:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
	<C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040808201822t715e2b10scf25d8ed8d131bec@mail.gmail.com>

OK ... my new paint scheme (this changes daily)

Midnight Blue with Silver racing stripes and lightening bolts ghosted
into the stripes.  It will then be known as the "Lightening Bug"

...seriously.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>>  What IS a good color to paint LBC's?
> Well obviously, Olde English White is way too complicated.
> _______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Aug 20 20:03:34 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:03:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing,
 now    colors & drivers NOW GAS PRICES
References: <005601c90302$c44b0ac0$62451645@normoffice><e98d88090808201448h1122d7bcycadc3171df096651@mail.gmail.com><A30431224B8840A4B44F8964CA212F33@NilesAD.von.gov><e98d88090808201453w5b28d651t4b139d711772bc12@mail.gmail.com><48ACA6D0.9020501@cox.net><43840a7e0808201701l3bc65039gf0ba4876086f73d6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1A96D8E29FEC4CF6819560EAC0BBF856@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <03f801c90332$1eed0df0$4e947e4c@HP>

People around here would kill for 3.10. 3.99 is the cheapest.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was, Best Spridget Clutch for Racing, now colors & 
drivers NOW GAS PRICES


> Just drove past a new Thornton's Station in Nashville....  3.20  Lowest I
> have seen it in a long time, most stations here are a dime more.
>
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 20:25:37 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:25:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
References: <C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <F822A6E8A9C9404BA4659AAC5FD91508@blackbox2>

I thought we pretty well covered this.  
Rustoleum "Antique White"  IS the correct paint & color. :)

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Aug 20 20:27:41 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:27:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1962 Austin Healey Sprite on Houston Craigslist
Message-ID: <01a601c90335$7cfe2430$76fa6c90$@net>

Interesting find on craigslist outside of Houston TX

 

HYPERLINK
"http://houston.craigslist.org/car/775470805.html"http://houston.craigslist.
org/car/775470805.html

 

713 2549276   Roger Williams is the owners name

 

NO FI

 

Leo


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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 20:47:10 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:47:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack, the Holy Sprite and his Midget
Message-ID: <48ACD72E.5030109@comcast.net>

Fr. Jack invited me to his Bar-B-Que tonight.
At first, I was a bit confused on a Wednesday afternoon BBQ but then 
Priests work weekends.
Sharing the afternoon with a bunch of priests, deacons, and nuns was not 
exactly my idea of a *party*
But it was nice and they had beer!
I met Fr. Kevin, Fr, Sabastian, and 3 or 4 more priest, a few Deacons, 
and some Nuns.
All the ladys who work in the churches, and I even heard a great joke 
about a priest who mixes up his
Es & Is,  Fr. Tim has a new deck, it's a big deck, want to come sit on 
his deck?
Now switch the E in deck with the letter i and watch all the ladys faint.
And I hear this from Fr Kevin.

Back to the issue......
Fr Jack asked me if I would take his 69 Midget as payment for the Holy 
Sprite.
I have enough Sprites as it is, I don't want a 69. And he did not sell it.
It is for sale and I think it's for sale in the church bulletin only.
So does anybody want to buy a nice rust free, 1 year old red painted 69 
Midget?
It could use a new top, the rear window is fogging out, seats are fair, 
not ripped but not new.
It runs like a top and has been well maintained (by me)
The early style Rostyle wheels have been painted black and he put cheap 
trim rings. the wheels need TLC to look good.
Other than that, it's a solid car and has been at a few local shows, Not 
concours but show acceptable.
 the color is "Really Resale RED" with black interior. I believe 
everything works but the speedo.
$4000 firm
Email me for particulars, I do not have any pictures but it's a good 
looking red 69 Midget with correct 69 headrest.
He even has a new tonneau for it.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Aug 20 20:51:41 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <ca2.391b7646.35de323d@aol.com>

I'd like to lower my street/stock Bugeye about an inch. In looking through  
the  Moss and Victoria British catalogs, I see front lower kits which  include 
spacers that go between the A-arm spring pan and the spring seat, which  looks 
like an easy enough concept. My understanding however is that the  1/2" 
spaces will only lower the car by that much....1/2".  Since I want to  lower the 
car an inch, I'd like to know if any of you have had luck a  having similar 
spacers fabricated? I'm thinking that if I had 1" long spacers  made up by a 
machinist, and used longer grade 8 bolts, I get to where I want it  to be. At this 
point in time, I do not want to purchase shorter (lowering)  springs. Any 
input?
 
For the rear suspension, I want to lower that an inch as well. I've talked  
to several people in the past few years about having a tapered shim made up  
which will get inserted just beneath the 1/4 elliptic spring perch, where it  
attaches to the frame.The sketch I have indicates a shim that is 3/8" thick at  
the fat end. If anyone is familiar with this method of lowering, please let me 
 know what amount of lowering I can expect to achieve out of this thickness 
shim.  For a 1" drop, should the shim be any thicker than 3/8" at the fat end?
 
If there are other manufactured lowering kits out there, please send me in  
their direction.
 
Thanks for any input you can provide on both of these questions.
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.




**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 20 21:16:59 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:16:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
In-Reply-To: <ca2.391b7646.35de323d@aol.com>
References: <ca2.391b7646.35de323d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48ACDE2B.20004@comcast.net>

Howard

The wedges work great on the 1/4 leafs.
I am not real fond of those spring spacer blocks.
Moving suspension stress points can't be a good thing.
But I have taken apart a few Sprites which have had those lowering kits 
installed, the worst was a bunch of washers on longer spring pan bolts.
1 inch lower springs are not terribly expensive. I bought mine many 
years ago and am very happy with them.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 20 21:17:43 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
References: <ca2.391b7646.35de323d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3E7765C919C14A7FB092FDCABAF456CF@midget>

Howard,
Because the spacers are being placed approximately 1/2 way between the 
fulcrum (inner pivot) and the load (where the tire meets the road), a 1/2" 
spacer WILL lower it an inch. Can't help with the quarter elliptics...
David 

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Aug 20 21:21:00 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:21:00 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <cf9.3e781001.35de391c@aol.com>

Thanks for the clarification David. That's the ratio I was starting to  
question. Based on that, I may just pick up the 1/2" kit. 
 
Howard



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 23:39:29 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:39:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040808201822t715e2b10scf25d8ed8d131bec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
	<C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<8c1781040808201822t715e2b10scf25d8ed8d131bec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808202239v431efa97q54c1ad28eae96340@mail.gmail.com>

Red with black polka dots....   "Lightening Bug"
Jim

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>wrote:

> OK ... my new paint scheme (this changes daily)
>
> Midnight Blue with Silver racing stripes and lightening bolts ghosted
> into the stripes.  It will then be known as the "Lightening Bug"
>
> ...seriously.
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> >>  What IS a good color to paint LBC's?
> > Well obviously, Olde English White is way too complicated.
> > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 20 23:40:06 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:40:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808202239v431efa97q54c1ad28eae96340@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004e01c90300$f9269b30$62451645@normoffice>
	<C4D20FE2.19216%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<8c1781040808201822t715e2b10scf25d8ed8d131bec@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808202239v431efa97q54c1ad28eae96340@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808202240s75db332aka52f91166e9e68e6@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry!! That should read   "Lady Bug"
Jim

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Red with black polka dots....   "Lightening Bug"
> Jim
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> OK ... my new paint scheme (this changes daily)
>>
>> Midnight Blue with Silver racing stripes and lightening bolts ghosted
>> into the stripes.  It will then be known as the "Lightening Bug"
>>
>> ...seriously.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>  What IS a good color to paint LBC's?
>> > Well obviously, Olde English White is way too complicated.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com
>>
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>>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>



-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 21 06:33:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:33:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Rolls Royce with gun rack
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3577BCC4E77AD4D00EB0C1B86B0@phx.gbl>

http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=9516346

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Aug 21 06:45:36 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:45:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A7F@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

If I leave today, I can probably get my '68 Midget there by next week.
Are the floats REALLY half-price?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:07 PM
To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!

Went to Cruise In Night at our local A&W tonight.

Some fun!!  Featured marque tonight was the 1968 MG Midget!

Just like mine!!

Or maybe its because I'm the only one who showed up...

Whatever.

At least I got my burger and root beer float for half price...
--
Cheers!!
Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 21 06:53:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:53:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3943B7C50282569E231FAAB86B0@phx.gbl>

in Toronto:

http://tinyurl.com/5nzc2q

NFI

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Aug 21 07:34:47 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:34:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I want to put allen head plugs into the abandoned emissions air pump
ports in a de-smogged 1275 head.

I seem to remember they are threaded 7/16-20 UNF but am not sure.

Can someone verify for me what will thread in there, or will I need to
drill and tap to another size.

The last time I did this, the head I was working on was not in the car
and I neatly closed up the ports with nifty Allen set screws or pipe
plugs that fit flush and don't look "cobbled."

Suggestions?



JohnD

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 07:43:26 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808210643o5cf68edeoe41384fced3b7cd7@mail.gmail.com>

Use 1/8 pipe plugs.  They work great.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 09:40:44 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:40:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A7F@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <43840a7e0808201706tc2aeeebu1b273f60f91926e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A7F@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808210840j584c461cxc83bb9c34a137856@mail.gmail.com>

John,

It's every other wednesday...   Also, next time I'm taking my 1964 R60/2 BMW
motorcycle so apparently that will be the featured marque...   ;-)

And Yup!  Everything is half price for those who cruise in with a special
vehicle!.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:

> If I leave today, I can probably get my '68 Midget there by next week.
> Are the floats REALLY half-price?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:07 PM
> To: Spridget List; Yahoo Spridget list
> Subject: [Spridgets] Cruise Night!
>
> Went to Cruise In Night at our local A&W tonight.
>
> Some fun!!  Featured marque tonight was the 1968 MG Midget!
>
> Just like mine!!
>
> Or maybe its because I'm the only one who showed up...
>
> Whatever.
>
> At least I got my burger and root beer float for half price...
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 21 10:20:45 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:20:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <48AD95DD.2050900@lehigh.edu>

Hi John,
Your memory is good. The thread is 7/16-20, and 1/4 or 3/8 long socket 
head set screws do a nice job.
John
Fogelsville, PA


Deikis, John G wrote:
> I want to put allen head plugs into the abandoned emissions air pump
> ports in a de-smogged 1275 head.
>
> I seem to remember they are threaded 7/16-20 UNF but am not sure.
>
> Can someone verify for me what will thread in there, or will I need to
> drill and tap to another size.
>
> The last time I did this, the head I was working on was not in the car
> and I neatly closed up the ports with nifty Allen set screws or pipe
> plugs that fit flush and don't look "cobbled."
>
> Suggestions?

From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Aug 21 10:35:53 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:35:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Good Colors
Message-ID: <20080821.093553.19109.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

No, that would be a "Lightning Bug"; a Lightening Bug would be one where the
'enlightened' owner took a hole saw to the floor panels (as did a friend of
mine).

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- "Trevor Jessie" <trevor.jessie at gmail.com> wrote:
OK ... my new paint scheme (this changes daily)

Midnight Blue with Silver racing stripes and lightening bolts ghosted
into the stripes.  It will then be known as the "Lightening Bug"

...seriously.

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>>  What IS a good color to paint LBC's?
> Well obviously, Olde English White is way too complicated.
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From stevenm at optonline.net  Thu Aug 21 07:57:23 2008
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:57:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget sighting in the upper peninsula
Message-ID: <000201c903b5$50bc4750$0f1793ae@1705n3>

Was anybody here the person towing a British racing green, rubber bumper Midget on Route 2 in Michigan's upper peninsula (Wed, Aug 19, 8:45pm)?  I saw it parked at a rest stop.  My wife took one look and said, "just keep driving", so I only got to cruise by and gawk.  Nice car.

Steve

From hal at katemuir.com  Thu Aug 21 12:06:51 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:06:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A80@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFAELDIDAA.hal@katemuir.com>

The ports on my head are 1/8 x 27 NPT.  Allen head plugs are available at
your friendly local ACE hardware.

Hal

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Deikis, John G
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:35 AM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


I want to put allen head plugs into the abandoned emissions air pump
ports in a de-smogged 1275 head.

I seem to remember they are threaded 7/16-20 UNF but am not sure.

Can someone verify for me what will thread in there, or will I need to
drill and tap to another size.

The last time I did this, the head I was working on was not in the car
and I neatly closed up the ports with nifty Allen set screws or pipe
plugs that fit flush and don't look "cobbled."

Suggestions?

From bkitterer at mac.com  Thu Aug 21 12:38:50 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:38:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3943B7C50282569E231FAAB86B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F3943B7C50282569E231FAAB86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <63AD3934-5924-45B7-A800-1A0D98BEDF13@mac.com>

How do you have time to find this stuff ?????

LOL


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> in Toronto:
>
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>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 12:44:48 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:44:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important Stuff!
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808211144x67655e35i211f081a38f162b1@mail.gmail.com>

I was in the Crossville, TN area last week on vacation and spotted a few
LBCs while there. One the road were a CB MGB, RB MGB, TR-6, Metropolitan,
and a TD (or kit car TD). I also saw a CB Midget parked in a private
driveway. It appeared to be a driver as it had tags and was parked behind
other cars in the drive. It obviously did not belong to a lister because it
had a piece of 4 x 4 behind the driver's side rear tire to keep it on the
sloped driveway. If it belonged to a lister, there would have been a cat
there instead of a chunk of wood! I also saw a decent looking Spitfire in a
front yard for sale.

There were a few IBCs represented too. The was an Alfa Milano sitting on
blocks close to where we were staying. I saw a stripped down Fiat 124 at a
yard sale and a really old Fiat that appeared to be an early form of the
500. It was a convertible too!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 12:46:38 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:46:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
In-Reply-To: <63AD3934-5924-45B7-A800-1A0D98BEDF13@mac.com>
References: <BAY112-F3943B7C50282569E231FAAB86B0@phx.gbl>
	<63AD3934-5924-45B7-A800-1A0D98BEDF13@mac.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808211146y4ef5b592tedcb82b3970f8527@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

> How do you have time to find this stuff ?????
>

He still works for a living! Us retired guys don't have that much time
anymore...

>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 21 12:47:48 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:47:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
In-Reply-To: <63AD3934-5924-45B7-A800-1A0D98BEDF13@mac.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37D79F3F5B944A45A13FE0B86B0@phx.gbl>

Well ... I have to drive my son back to "residence" next week so I ran 
searches on 'sprite', 'midget', 'austin', 'healey', and 'mg' on the Toronto 
free classified sites, just in case there was some prize there that I should 
be hauling back and hoarding.  I did find a complete mini engine and 
transaxle for $50, but it was sold.  I don't limit my searches to 'autos', 
as sometimes people put their ads in the wrong place.


----Original Message Follows----

How do you have time to find this stuff ?????

LOL


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:53 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

 > in Toronto:
 >
 > http://tinyurl.com/5nzc2q
 >
 > NFI

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 21 12:51:51 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:51:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808211146y4ef5b592tedcb82b3970f8527@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37404E0B1CD2ADE45DBC61B86B0@phx.gbl>

There is some truth to that.  I had a week off last week and was around 
home.  It takes a lot longer to get things done when you have more time.

RD

----Original Message Follows----
From: CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

 > How do you have time to find this stuff ?????
 >

He still works for a living! Us retired guys don't have that much time
anymore...

 >
 > --
 > Kent
 > 1960 Bugeye
 > 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Aug 21 13:48:17 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:48:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <20080821.134817.1599.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

I bought a set of racing springs for the MKII a bunch of years ago, they don't
lower the rear end, however there are only 3 leaves to them. In order to use
the original length bolts, I fabricated a couple of Titanium spacers that are
~0.55" tall. I realized after making them that I could install them either
above or below the springs and either have a stock ride height or a lowered
one. That being said, the added drop on a MKII with wider wheels and
185/60-13s made the tires scrub the inner fender wells, even with the fender
lips ground off.
Obviously, that is not the case with a bugeye, so this might be applicable. If
you're interested in the pattern, email me off list and I'll see if I can find
one that I can send you in pdf format.


Mark Haynes
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Thu Aug 21 14:29:58 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:29:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys, I just got my sprite to the track and ran 3 laps and the motor
seized. Could I have a few instructions on removal of the engine? Does the
tranny have to come out with it too?
Also any ideas why the motor could go after 11 races? 2 of them light use.
Also could you let me know of apprx. rev limit?
-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 21 14:41:54 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:41:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] racing Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016301c903ce$5a57ce60$de1cf304@spider>

Seizing would be from over-heating or lack of lubrication (oil or oil pump.)
It might be more apparent when you tear the motor down carefully; look for
clues. Don't buy any parts for your rebuild until see what can be used
again.  I ran C Sedan with SCCA back in the 1960's. You can tell rev limit
by having a dyno curve or by the seat of your pants; there is just a point
where you hit a wall in any gear. I shift well before that. Bet there are
articles on the internet you could google on that subject.  ...bill in
oregon
=========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Matt Hagopian
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:30 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal

Hi guys, I just got my sprite to the track and ran 3 laps and the motor
seized. Could I have a few instructions on removal of the engine? Does the
tranny have to come out with it too?
Also any ideas why the motor could go after 11 races? 2 of them light use.
Also could you let me know of apprx. rev limit?
-- 
Sincerely,
Matt Hagopian

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 14:59:55 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808211359s7be1aa1nd0de3830175f17b2@mail.gmail.com>

Search archives but that will take you longer than it takes Frank to
pull a motor.
As soon as Frank gets off work he can reply with step-by-step instructions.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Aug 21 15:11:16 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:11:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack, the Holy Sprite and his Midget
In-Reply-To: <48ACD72E.5030109@comcast.net>
References: <48ACD72E.5030109@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A85@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

There's nothing like a nun with a couple of bourbon Manhattans in her
sitting on your deck.

...Oh...to be back at St. Mary's School!


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:47 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack, the Holy Sprite and his Midget

Fr. Jack invited me to his Bar-B-Que tonight.
At first, I was a bit confused on a Wednesday afternoon BBQ but then
Priests work weekends.
Sharing the afternoon with a bunch of priests, deacons, and nuns was not

exactly my idea of a *party*
But it was nice and they had beer!
I met Fr. Kevin, Fr, Sabastian, and 3 or 4 more priest, a few Deacons,
and some Nuns.
All the ladys who work in the churches, and I even heard a great joke
about a priest who mixes up his
Es & Is,  Fr. Tim has a new deck, it's a big deck, want to come sit on
his deck?
Now switch the E in deck with the letter i and watch all the ladys
faint.
And I hear this from Fr Kevin.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 21 15:21:09 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
References: <b777e2be0808211144x67655e35i211f081a38f162b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <03D3C7DA39934856928AF4A14066EDB5@NilesAD.von.gov>

> There were a few IBCs represented too. The was an Alfa Milano sitting on
> blocks close to where we were staying. I saw a stripped down Fiat 124 at a
> yard sale and a really old Fiat that appeared to be an early form of the
> 500. It was a convertible too!

Kent,
I thought IBC was root beer? Italian British Cars? Like the Innocenti? 

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 21 16:03:03 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:03:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <4286407.1219356184076.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

   Hi Mark,

   I've  been looking for 1/4 offset springs for some time.  Made one bad
   purchase,  and  the  usual  supplier  won't sell me any unless I get 6
   orders.  So  I  am  giving up on offset springs, unless you have a set
   available?   I'll  be using 185/60R-13's and it doesn't look like I'll
   need  anything  as  much  clearance  as the offset springs. I could be
   wrong  but  the  plan  now  is  to  grind  clearance in a set of stock
   springs.  That  will  also drop the chassis some and soften the spring
   rate  to  boot. If I understand correctly the spacers are used because
   you  used  the  original U-bolt? I made heavy bars to clamp the spring
   and  will use good bolts and locknuts. I would like to see what you've
   done  though,  always interested in new ideas. pdf is good for me. I'm
   curious  to see what a well setup early suspension feels like compared
   to the three-link coilover suspension that I raced.

   Thanks,

   John, Fogelsville PA

   Mark Haynes wrote:

   I  bought  a  set of racing springs for the MKII a bunch of years ago,
   they  don't  >  lower the rear end, however there are only 3 leaves to
   them.  In  order  to  use  > the original length bolts, I fabricated a
   couple  of  Titanium  spacers that are > ~0.55" tall. I realized after
   making  them  that  I  could  install them either > above or below the
   springs  and  either have a stock ride height or a lowered > one. That
   being  said,  the  added  drop  on  a  MKII  with  wider  wheels and >
   185/60-13s  made the tires scrub the inner fender wells, even with the
   fender  >  lips  ground  off. > Obviously, that is not the case with a
   bugeye,  so  this  might  be applicable. If > you're interested in the
   pattern, email me off list and I'll see if I can find > one that I can
   send  you  in  pdf  format.  >  Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 >
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From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Thu Aug 21 16:04:20 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:04:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5B58C1A5-48CB-4872-BEC6-F380295C9E09@valentinephoto.net>

On Aug 21, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Matt Hagopian wrote:
>  Could I have a few instructions on removal of the engine? Does the
> tranny have to come out with it too?

Spridget Engine removal...

1.   Scribe around bonnet hinges
2.   remove bonnet
3.   disconnect and remove Battery
4.   disconnect ground strap
5.   drain coolant
6.   drain engine oil (optional)
7.   drain transmission oil
8.   remove oil filter
9.   disconnect drive shaft from rear
10. remove radiator
11. disconnect carburetors with manifold
12. disconnect exhaust manifold
13. remove gearshift lever
14. unbolt transmission mounts (2 inside and 2 under)
15. disconnect speedo and reverse light switch
16. disconnect clutch hydraulics (unbolt slave cyl)
17. remove rocker cover, connect lift chains
18. take up slack in chains
19. lift engine ~3/4"
20. disconnect driver side eng.mount bracket from rubber pad.
21. disconnect pass. side entire mount from chassis.
22. finesse engine out...

From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Aug 21 16:09:55 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:09:55 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important   Stuff!
Message-ID: <20080821.150955.11922.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Aren't those 'LITs'?

Clay L.


-- "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> There were a few IBCs represented too. The was an Alfa Milano sitting on
> blocks close to where we were staying. I saw a stripped down Fiat 124 at a
> yard sale and a really old Fiat that appeared to be an early form of the
> 500. It was a convertible too!

Kent,
I thought IBC was root beer? Italian British Cars? Like the Innocenti?
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 16:33:04 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:33:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <20080821.150955.11922.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080821.150955.11922.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808211533l5880df73n52fce0abbd6e5d2a@mail.gmail.com>

Surely they were LWCs?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:09 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Aren't those 'LITs'?
>
> Clay L.
>
>
> -- "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> > There were a few IBCs represented too. The was an Alfa Milano sitting on
> > blocks close to where we were staying. I saw a stripped down Fiat 124 at
> a
> > yard sale and a really old Fiat that appeared to be an early form of the
> > 500. It was a convertible too!
>
> Kent,
> I thought IBC was root beer? Italian British Cars? Like the Innocenti?
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 17:42:16 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:42:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
References: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFAELDIDAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <006F9F7B38A14558AB74683E554A2372@Larry>

Yeah, the 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 is for the B-series head.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
To: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


The ports on my head are 1/8 x 27 NPT.  Allen head plugs are available at
your friendly local ACE hardware.

Hal


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
Deikis, John G
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:35 AM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


I want to put allen head plugs into the abandoned emissions air pump
ports in a de-smogged 1275 head.

I seem to remember they are threaded 7/16-20 UNF but am not sure.

Can someone verify for me what will thread in there, or will I need to
drill and tap to another size.

The last time I did this, the head I was working on was not in the car
and I neatly closed up the ports with nifty Allen set screws or pipe
plugs that fit flush and don't look "cobbled."

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 17:48:07 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:48:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
References: <BAY112-F37D79F3F5B944A45A13FE0B86B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7DB4FBC29A664E649DBAB271B3F18F67@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10


Well ... I have to drive my son back to "residence" next week so I ran
searches on 'sprite', 'midget', 'austin', 'healey', and 'mg' on the Toronto
free classified sites, just in case there was some prize there that I should
be hauling back and hoarding.  I did find a complete mini engine and
transaxle for $50, but it was sold.  I don't limit my searches to 'autos',
as sometimes people put their ads in the wrong place.

=================================


So how many 2-legged midgets do you find for sale?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 18:01:23 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 19:01:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack, the Holy Sprite and his Midget
References: <48ACD72E.5030109@comcast.net>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A85@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <4F1788180FAB43489335B1B9F98E3B49@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>
To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fr Jack, the Holy Sprite and his Midget


There's nothing like a nun with a couple of bourbon Manhattans in her
sitting on your deck.

...Oh...to be back at St. Mary's School!


===========================

OMG, John.  After 6 years of Catholic school, I shudder at the thought and 
dare not ask how you know about that.  Yech!!

Hey, are you going to be at Elkhart next month?


LAD 

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 21 18:40:57 2008
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:40:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <51C0890591714727AD3C0E664B792E03@HomeComputer>

Howard,

On my 62 mkII Sprite I lowered it the old fashioned (cheap) way:

In the front I just cut some off with a hacksaw  I dont remember how much.

In the back I just kept the original 45+ year old springs that had a little
sag in them from age.

I have a set of re-arched (I guess) < springs that came off an old ex-racing
bug-eye tub that made my car sit wayyy to low.

Dean Swanson

62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Aug 21 19:39:33 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:39:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <006F9F7B38A14558AB74683E554A2372@Larry>
Message-ID: <004c01c903f7$ee0ffb40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Nope.  The B series head uses the same size as the A series.
Dunno where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.  7/16" is a pretty damn big
hole, actually.  FAR too large for an air injection nozzle on a
small-bore engine like an A or B series.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:42 PM
To: Hal Faulkner; Deikis, John G; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

Yeah, the 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 is for the B-series head.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
To: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


The ports on my head are 1/8 x 27 NPT.  Allen head plugs are available
at
your friendly local ACE hardware.

Hal

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 19:39:19 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
References: <004c01c903f7$ee0ffb40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <C583D832E1ED4DE3B5EC88F5ABE79BE5@Larry>

Actually, Bud, where it came from is from personal experience of plugging 3 
different B-series heads with exactly 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 hex-head plugs. 
Before my post I double checked my memory by going out to the garage and 
looking at the bag from Fastenal that contains the remainder of the ones I 
bought.

Now, I cannot report from personal experience on the A-Series, but the 
B-Series is most definitely 7/16-20.

If you still think I'm wrong, try a B-Series and report back.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Hal Faulkner'" 
<hal at katemuir.com>; "'Deikis, John G'" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "'Spridget 
List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


Nope.  The B series head uses the same size as the A series.
Dunno where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.  7/16" is a pretty damn big
hole, actually.  FAR too large for an air injection nozzle on a
small-bore engine like an A or B series.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Daniels
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:42 PM
To: Hal Faulkner; Deikis, John G; Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

Yeah, the 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 is for the B-series head.

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <hal at katemuir.com>
To: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "Spridget List"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


The ports on my head are 1/8 x 27 NPT.  Allen head plugs are available
at
your friendly local ACE hardware.

Hal

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 21 19:42:56 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:42:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
Message-ID: <16799216.1219369376789.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

   The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is
   a  7/16-20  UNFstraight  thread,  it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8
   pipe  is  a  bit  smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug
   screws in, that doesn't make it the thread size.

   John, Fogelsville PA

   Bud Osbourne wrote:

   Nope.  The  B  series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno
   where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Thu Aug 21 20:01:28 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:01:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] key blank
Message-ID: <50874.72.71.229.243.1219370488.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Listers,
After carefully securing the key for my 66 Sprite before going on a short
vacation, I had a hard time finding the place I "secured" it. This
reminded me that I have no spare.
The key has a squarish head with LUCAS on one side and a 5 digit number on
the reverse. Anyone know where I can buy some key blanks like this? Then
I'll have my key guy cut a couple spares.
Dick B.

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Aug 21 20:31:51 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:31:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <C583D832E1ED4DE3B5EC88F5ABE79BE5@Larry>
Message-ID: <005701c903ff$3c0871e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Larry,
I've done a few Bs, myself, Larry.  My memory is that they use the same
size as the A series.  Now, I don't consider my memory to be infallible,
and the last B I did was about 10 years ago.
Hopefully, someone with a post-'67 B handy can check it out for us.  If
not, I've got a few sitting around that I can check tomorrow after work.
Bud Osbourne
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:39 PM
To: Bud Osbourne; 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

Actually, Bud, where it came from is from personal experience of
plugging 3 
different B-series heads with exactly 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 hex-head plugs. 
Before my post I double checked my memory by going out to the garage and

looking at the bag from Fastenal that contains the remainder of the ones
I 
bought.

Now, I cannot report from personal experience on the A-Series, but the 
B-Series is most definitely 7/16-20.

If you still think I'm wrong, try a B-Series and report back.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Hal Faulkner'" 
<hal at katemuir.com>; "'Deikis, John G'" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "'Spridget 
List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


Nope.  The B series head uses the same size as the A series.
Dunno where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.  7/16" is a pretty damn big
hole, actually.  FAR too large for an air injection nozzle on a
small-bore engine like an A or B series.
Bud Osbourne

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 20:20:26 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:20:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <004c01c903f7$ee0ffb40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <006F9F7B38A14558AB74683E554A2372@Larry>
	<004c01c903f7$ee0ffb40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808211920w2930fbb6ob5ea336516550526@mail.gmail.com>

I've plugged with both 1/8" Pipe threads and 7/16" fine.  They are
very close and either will plug the holes.
But, the 1/8" Pipe thread Allen plugs look better.
Pipe threads are tapered.

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Aug 21 20:38:36 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:38:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <16799216.1219369376789.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <005801c90400$2d7938c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

John, Larry,
I stand corrected (and slightly embarrassed).  I was just SURE that.
Getting old really sucks, sometimes :-)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is a
7/16-20 UNFstraight thread, it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8 pipe is
a bit smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug screws in,
that doesn't make it the thread size.
John, Fogelsville PA
Bud Osbourne wrote:
Nope. The B series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno
where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 20:25:53 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:25:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
References: <005701c903ff$3c0871e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <881E1F7DDD1A4833B000F2CEF919E167@Larry>

OK, Bud, but I want to see a really good beer riding on this.  I'm not 
talking about a Bud Light or a Miller Lite.  I want a Guinness or an equally 
good Porter or Stout -- if such a beer exists.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridget List'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


Larry,
I've done a few Bs, myself, Larry.  My memory is that they use the same
size as the A series.  Now, I don't consider my memory to be infallible,
and the last B I did was about 10 years ago.
Hopefully, someone with a post-'67 B handy can check it out for us.  If
not, I've got a few sitting around that I can check tomorrow after work.
Bud Osbourne
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:39 PM
To: Bud Osbourne; 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

Actually, Bud, where it came from is from personal experience of
plugging 3
different B-series heads with exactly 7/16 - 20 X 1/2 hex-head plugs.
Before my post I double checked my memory by going out to the garage and

looking at the bag from Fastenal that contains the remainder of the ones
I
bought.

Now, I cannot report from personal experience on the A-Series, but the
B-Series is most definitely 7/16-20.

If you still think I'm wrong, try a B-Series and report back.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "'Larry Daniels'" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Hal Faulkner'"
<hal at katemuir.com>; "'Deikis, John G'" <John.Deikis at va.gov>; "'Spridget
List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


Nope.  The B series head uses the same size as the A series.
Dunno where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.  7/16" is a pretty damn big
hole, actually.  FAR too large for an air injection nozzle on a
small-bore engine like an A or B series.
Bud Osbourne

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 21 20:31:56 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
References: <005801c90400$2d7938c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <9A2ED01FAB3A480896D0DCDBE98E443E@Larry>

OK, Bud, but I posted about the really good beer BEFORE you admitted defeat.
I still want the beer.

If you get near Madison, WI, Peter C. introduced me to a great micro-brew
place that had real good stuff.  I'll take one of those.

IIRC, Jim Johnson is a bit of an expert, too.  He can join us.

Anybody else?

LAD


----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Osbourne
To: 'John D. Caffrey'
Cc: 'Deikis,John G' ; 'Spridget List' ; 'Hal Faulkner' ; 'Larry Daniels'
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


John, Larry,

I stand corrected (and slightly embarrassed).  I was just SURE that...
Getting old really sucks, sometimes J

Bud Osbourne



-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports



The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is a
7/16-20 UNFstraight thread, it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8 pipe is a bit
smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug screws in, that doesn't
make it the thread size.

John, Fogelsville PA

Bud Osbourne wrote:

Nope. The B series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno where the
idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 20:47:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:47:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 50 Years of Spridgets DVD Problems
In-Reply-To: <60d408fa0808211943i3c95f77fqda2c3cb9f682ba2c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60d408fa0808211943i3c95f77fqda2c3cb9f682ba2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808211947i22c06bfcy1a7cf13fd6a6d2e8@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

Most probably many of you received your DVDs in the mail in the past day or
so just as we did. If you tried to play it, you now know there is a problem.
Only 18 mins of data is on the DVD. I contacted Dale at Adventure Photos and
just got off the phone with him this evening. He is very apologetic and has
already put wheels in motion to correct the problem.

The error occurred with the people who reproduced the DVD from the master he
gave them. They didn't get all the files from the master burned to the DVD
image. Dale checked each DVD before mailing to make sure that it started
correctly but, of course, he couldn't sit and watch an hours worth of video
from each one to make sure the whole thing was burned onto each and every
disk. That's reasonable - I wouldn't have either!

Anyway, Dale is at this very moment chewing out the people who made the
copies and will be sending new DVDs to everyone as soon as he can get them
made. Please be patient.

Today I also received my panoramic photos from Tony Lipari and they look
great given the problems with the clouds and wind he encountered. Carolyn
and I got a real chuckle out of them and they will go up in my new garage in
Georgia as soon as we get moved!!

Hope you all are well...

Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 20:57:51 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:57:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <9A2ED01FAB3A480896D0DCDBE98E443E@Larry>
References: <005801c90400$2d7938c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
	<9A2ED01FAB3A480896D0DCDBE98E443E@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808211957g4b340fdalf91dddd5790fa1e5@mail.gmail.com>

Hey! Hey!  Don't drag me into this!!  After sitting at the bar in LotO with
Peter, I'm not sure I can keep up!  I put some hardware store bolts into the
air ports of my 1968 1275 head that work just fine. They are pretty ugly
though...   I think I'll run up to Fastenal tomorrow and see about those
allen heads instead now that you guys have worked out all the kinks in
this....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> OK, Bud, but I posted about the really good beer BEFORE you admitted
> defeat.
> I still want the beer.
>
> If you get near Madison, WI, Peter C. introduced me to a great micro-brew
> place that had real good stuff.  I'll take one of those.
>
> IIRC, Jim Johnson is a bit of an expert, too.  He can join us.
>
> Anybody else?
>
> LAD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bud Osbourne
> To: 'John D. Caffrey'
> Cc: 'Deikis,John G' ; 'Spridget List' ; 'Hal Faulkner' ; 'Larry Daniels'
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
>
>
> John, Larry,
>
> I stand corrected (and slightly embarrassed).  I was just SURE that...
> Getting old really sucks, sometimes J
>
> Bud Osbourne
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
> To: Bud Osbourne
> Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
>
>
>
> The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is a
> 7/16-20 UNFstraight thread, it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8 pipe is a
> bit
> smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug screws in, that
> doesn't
> make it the thread size.
>
> John, Fogelsville PA
>
> Bud Osbourne wrote:
>
> Nope. The B series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno where
> the
> idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From justbrits at comcast.net  Thu Aug 21 22:23:01 2008
From: justbrits at comcast.net (JB@comcast)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:23:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808211957g4b340fdalf91dddd5790fa1e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEEHCMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>

<<I think I'll run up to Fastenal tomorrow and see about those
allen heads instead>>

Hardware store X FOUR trips.

Doh.

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Thu Aug 21 21:37:38 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:37:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OH NO!!
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0808212037w48806afet9ffb212e0bde32b0@mail.gmail.com>

When I got home from the track I found this before I started removing the
motor...
Removed the rocker cover and discovered that the keepers had come out of one
valve, and it's valve head broke off and got hammered by the piston. The
motor won't turn in either direction, even with a BAR! This was the first
time the motor had run for more than a couple minutes at idle.

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Thu Aug 21 22:33:07 2008
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:33:07 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] OH NO!!
Message-ID: <33063076.1219379587871.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

ah...HA!  that's the problem! you did not go to the bar first! 
my apologies.  bu that was way-way to tempting for me to not to reply.

chuck
"been there , broke that , fixed that and broke it again........"
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
>Sent: Aug 21, 2008 11:37 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] OH NO!!
>
>When I got home from the track I found this before I started removing the
>motor...
>Removed the rocker cover and discovered that the keepers had come out of one
>valve, and it's valve head broke off and got hammered by the piston. The
>motor won't turn in either direction, even with a BAR! This was the first
>time the motor had run for more than a couple minutes at idle.
>
>-- 
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Matt Hagopian

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Aug 21 22:53:06 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:53:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] key blank
In-Reply-To: <50874.72.71.229.243.1219370488.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
References: <50874.72.71.229.243.1219370488.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <48AE4632.6090204@wi.net>

Linda,

Peter Groh of British Car Keys,   http://britishcarkeys.com/

Regards,
Dave
59 :{)
Burlington WI

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
> Listers,
> After carefully securing the key for my 66 Sprite before going on a short
> vacation, I had a hard time finding the place I "secured" it. This
> reminded me that I have no spare.
> The key has a squarish head with LUCAS on one side and a 5 digit number on
> the reverse. Anyone know where I can buy some key blanks like this? Then
> I'll have my key guy cut a couple spares.
> Dick B.

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 21 23:30:04 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:30:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808211533l5880df73n52fce0abbd6e5d2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080821.150955.11922.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808211533l5880df73n52fce0abbd6e5d2a@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Surely they were LWCs?
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:09 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com>
> wrote:
> Aren't those 'LITs'?
>
> "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
>  I thought IBC was root beer? Italian British Cars? Like the Innocenti?
>

IBC stands for Italian Bastard Cars. I have owned several over the years and
every one was a bastard! That's where I learned that Italian metric is
different than any other metric in the world. Even the chink metric is
closer!!! Who the hell else would use a mechanical fuel injection system
with a "thermostatic actuator"? Don't get me going on these...

And, yes, IBC root beer is great!

> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Aug 22 01:17:42 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:17:42 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808211329i6e018fc8pdd7ae0dc7d948b65@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D68A77BC9DFE47CE853DF7FF2F68081C@GuyLaptop>

No one else is saying this, so I will.

I find it hard to understand how someone can run a car in 11 races without
having researched before hand what the designed rev limit is on their
engine. Or apparently knowing much about the engine.

Apologies if I have misunderstood the background to the question.

Engines usually seize because of driver error.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matt Hagopian
Sent: 21 August 2008 21:30
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal


Hi guys, I just got my sprite to the track and ran 3 laps and the motor
seized. Could I have a few instructions on removal of the engine? Does the
tranny have to come out with it too?
Also any ideas why the motor could go after 11 races? 2 of them light use.
Also could you let me know of apprx. rev limit?
--
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 22 05:15:45 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:15:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <9A2ED01FAB3A480896D0DCDBE98E443E@Larry>
Message-ID: <006101c90448$6cb18720$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

OK, lemme get this straight.  If Im reading correctly, Im buying beer
for an as yet undetermined number of thirsty Spridgeteers, who are not
gullible enough to be satisfied with what I call kid beer (any
Budweiser, Miller or Coors product)?   Damn!  It sure can be expensive
to get old!
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:32 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

OK, Bud, but I posted about the really good beer BEFORE you admitted
defeat.  I still want the beer.

If you get near Madison, WI, Peter C. introduced me to a great
micro-brew place that had real good stuff.  I'll take one of those.

IIRC, Jim Johnson is a bit of an expert, too.  He can join us.

Anybody else?

LAD


----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Osbourne <mailto:abcoz at hky.com>
To: 'John D. Caffrey' <mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
Cc: 'Deikis,John G' <mailto:John.Deikis at va.gov>  ; 'Spridget
<mailto:spridgets at autox.team.net>  List' ; 'Hal
<mailto:hal at katemuir.com>  Faulkner' ; 'Larry Daniels'
<mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

John, Larry,
I stand corrected (and slightly embarrassed).  I was just SURE that.
Getting old really sucks, sometimes :-)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is a
7/16-20 UNFstraight thread, it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8 pipe is
a bit smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug screws in,
that doesn't make it the thread size.
John, Fogelsville PA
Bud Osbourne wrote:
Nope. The B series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno
where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 22 06:08:05 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
References: <006101c90448$6cb18720$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <86809FAD73074A6BA440464ED84C0432@Larry>

Old, but generous, Bud. ;-))



----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Osbourne
To: 'Larry Daniels'
Cc: 'Spridget List'
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 6:15 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports


OK, lemme get this straight.  If I'm reading correctly, I'm buying beer for an
as yet undetermined number of thirsty Spridgeteers, who are not gullible
enough to be satisfied with what I call "kid beer" (any Budweiser, Miller or
Coors product)?   Damn!  It sure can be expensive to get old!

Bud Osbourne



-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:32 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Spridget List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports



OK, Bud, but I posted about the really good beer BEFORE you admitted defeat.
I still want the beer.



If you get near Madison, WI, Peter C. introduced me to a great micro-brew
place that had real good stuff.  I'll take one of those.



IIRC, Jim Johnson is a bit of an expert, too.  He can join us.



Anybody else?



LAD





----- Original Message -----

From: Bud Osbourne

To: 'John D. Caffrey'

Cc: 'Deikis,John G' ; 'Spridget List' ; 'Hal Faulkner' ; 'Larry Daniels'

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:38 PM

Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Air pump ports



John, Larry,

I stand corrected (and slightly embarrassed).  I was just SURE that...
Getting old really sucks, sometimes J

Bud Osbourne



-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports



The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is a
7/16-20 UNFstraight thread, it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8 pipe is a bit
smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug screws in, that doesn't
make it the thread size.

John, Fogelsville PA

Bud Osbourne wrote:

Nope. The B series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno where the
idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Aug 22 06:10:38 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:10:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Air pump ports
In-Reply-To: <005801c90400$2d7938c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <005801c90400$2d7938c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <48AEACBE.1020109@lehigh.edu>

   Hi Bud,
   Not  important enough to argue about since both size plugs will do the
   job,  but  I did have challenge for those who would insist that 1/8-27
   NPT is the correct thread. Screw the air injection manifold into a 1/8
   pipe coupling and remove it undamaged, and I buy the beer! I wonder if
   Larry  would  share the Guiness with me?  Samuel Adams Lager is brewed
   in my hometown now, and it would be a fine choice also.
   John
   Fogelsville, PA
   Bud Osbourne wrote:

   John, Larry,

   I  stand  corrected  (and  slightly  embarrassed).   I  was  just SURE
   that.......  Getting old really sucks, sometimes J

   Bud Osbourne

   -----Original Message-----
   From: John D. Caffrey [mailto:jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU]
   Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:43 PM
   To: Bud Osbourne
   Cc: 'Deikis,John G'; 'Spridget List'; 'Hal Faulkner'; 'Larry Daniels'
   Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air pump ports

   The idea of 7/16-20 came from measuring the mating air manifold. It is
   a  7/16-20  UNFstraight  thread,  it is not a tapered pipe thread. 1/8
   pipe  is  a  bit  smaller and the pitch is close so a 1/8-27 pipe plug
   screws in, that doesn't make it the thread size.

   John, Fogelsville PA

   Bud Osbourne wrote:

   Nope.  The  B  series head uses the same size as the A series. > Dunno
   where the idea of 7/16 x 20 came from.

From twobees at sprynet.com  Fri Aug 22 06:55:54 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:55:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Removal
Message-ID: <001901c90456$6a732780$62451645@normoffice>

Matt:

As noted engine seizure is usually caused by lack of lubrication.  But,
there can be other causes & they should be evident when you tear it down.

As for time involved,  hard to say.  I used to be able to remove the engine
from my MGB in 1-1/2 hours, re-install in 2-1/2 hours.  After taking 3 or 4
hours over the last couple of days to remove the 948 from my Turner, I
realize that the now-available quick-connects for various plumbing lines can
be a major time-saver.  With lines for over-flow tanks, oil cooler, etc.
it's a slower process.  I've attached a photo so you can see (won't be on
Digest).  Also, the room available around a Spridget engine is less than on
a B.  For example, removing the intake/exhaust manifolds (modified medium
-runner on the B, Maniflow on the 948) takes at least twice as long because
most of the nuts can only be moved one land at a time.  And, lastly, in
Connecticut, where I was working on the B, I had an electric engine hoist.
Here I have a floor hydraulic hoist.

I don't know why you would have to take the trans out.  I've never done that
unless the trans needed work.  Some people believe that it is VERY difficult
to align the trans input shaft into the spline of the clutch disc.  I always
use an alignment tool & have never had a problem.  One year & had the engine
out 5 times for various work.  Longest it ever took to get it back in was
about 2 minutes of fiddling.  I do use a jack under the trans to lift that
to more of an upward angle.

Hope this all helps.

Norm Sippel
'59 Turner racecar - 948-powered.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Eng compt w fire sys.jpg]

From bpazur at excel.net  Fri Aug 22 07:24:17 2008
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:24:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Removal
Message-ID: <200808221324.m7MDOHUi009410@green.excel.net>

Guy, you have no understanding of this particular situation. Don't you think
it would be prudent not to blast someone, especially someone completely new
to the list, before you do?

Bud Pazur

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug 22 08:06:02 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:06:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important   Stuff!
References: <20080821.150955.11922.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com><43840a7e0808211533l5880df73n52fce0abbd6e5d2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<b777e2be0808212230ia115fdayea3cec207f63654b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F676A07FADEC4B7C8B0B11DC9901D071@NilesAD.von.gov>

> And, yes, IBC root beer is great!

But Berghoff's is better!

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 08:20:34 2008
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Blake Thompson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:20:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Trailer heading from Milwaukee past Topeka August
	30/31
Message-ID: <8a336b9d0808220720g16b9dd5dm53a8af17a4cae1f3@mail.gmail.com>

Yo.  My girlfriend bought a specmiata in scenic Salina, Kansas.  My
empty flat bed will be traveling south on Friday night from Milwaukee,
via Rockford, Davenport, Des Moines, Kansas City and Topeka.  If
you're on the way, slightly off the beaten path, or want to meet me...
I can pickup anything under 5,000 lbs and smaller than a 1970's Dodge
Charger :)  Of course you get to help me with my fuel bill :)

-Blake
Blake AT I sell miata parts.com


-- 
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Our ebay store:  http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Aug 22 08:44:57 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:44:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Trailer heading from Milwaukee past Topeka
 August	30/31
In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0808220720g16b9dd5dm53a8af17a4cae1f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8a336b9d0808220720g16b9dd5dm53a8af17a4cae1f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48AED0E9.7050106@frontiernet.net>

Pick up a nice Jeep Comanche, and I'll meet you at any Amtrak stop along 
the way.

Kate

Blake Thompson wrote:
> Yo.  My girlfriend bought a specmiata in scenic Salina, Kansas.  My
> empty flat bed will be traveling south on Friday night from Milwaukee,
> via Rockford, Davenport, Des Moines, Kansas City and Topeka.  If
> you're on the way, slightly off the beaten path, or want to meet me...
> I can pickup anything under 5,000 lbs and smaller than a 1970's Dodge
> Charger :)  Of course you get to help me with my fuel bill :)
>
> -Blake
> Blake AT I sell miata parts.com

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Aug 22 08:45:21 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:45:21 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Removal
In-Reply-To: <200808221324.m7MDOHUi009410@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <0913D1616AD24FD5BAA7D61C0B695BC0@GuyLaptop>

Read it again Bud.

I agree, I said that I didn't understand.

But I did not "blast" anyone. I said that I found it difficult to
understand.  A straightforward comment on my own abilities.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Bud Pazur
Sent: 22 August 2008 14:24
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Removal


Guy, you have no understanding of this particular situation. Don't you think
it would be prudent not to blast someone, especially someone completely new
to the list, before you do?

Bud Pazur
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug 22 08:48:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Trailer heading from Milwaukee past Topeka
 August	30/31
References: <8a336b9d0808220720g16b9dd5dm53a8af17a4cae1f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48AED0E9.7050106@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <F1DEA8E85BD640A7B1BD410647BF77B9@NilesAD.von.gov>

> Pick up a nice Jeep Comanche, and I'll meet you at any Amtrak stop along
> the way.

Kate,
He is coming from the middle of the Rust Belt to the edge of the Rust Belt 
by way of the Rust Belt. What is "a nice Jeep Cherokee"? Your definition and 
the MidWest definition probably do not jive.
David 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Aug 22 09:07:57 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:07:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Empty Trailer heading from Milwaukee past Topeka
 August	30/31
In-Reply-To: <F1DEA8E85BD640A7B1BD410647BF77B9@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <8a336b9d0808220720g16b9dd5dm53a8af17a4cae1f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<48AED0E9.7050106@frontiernet.net>
	<F1DEA8E85BD640A7B1BD410647BF77B9@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <48AED64D.2060204@frontiernet.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> Pick up a nice Jeep Comanche, and I'll meet you at any Amtrak stop along
>> the way.
>
>
> He is coming from the middle of the Rust Belt to the edge of the Rust 
> Belt by way of the Rust Belt.

Cancel that.

Kate

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 09:11:49 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] fully loaded Sprite - $10
In-Reply-To: <7DB4FBC29A664E649DBAB271B3F18F67@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36C6BF09BACB2B7441E2BFB86A0@phx.gbl>

There are a few ads now and then that have a disclaimer.  Something about 
"clicking on this link will forward you to an adult site".  :)


----- Original Message -----

So how many 2-legged midgets do you find for sale?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 09:33:43 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:33:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <5B58C1A5-48CB-4872-BEC6-F380295C9E09@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>

Ah!  You're supposed to disconnect the ground strap 'before' beginning to 
finesse the engine out ...

With my memory being what it isn't, part of finessing is checking frequently 
to see what's still connected, before lifting the car ...

RD

----Original Message Follows----
From: "K. Valentine" <kevin at valentinephoto.net>

Spridget Engine removal...

4.   disconnect ground strap

22. finesse engine out...

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 11:10:43 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:10:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] colour and visibility
Message-ID: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>

I was juggling cars in the driveway this morning.  We got a nice day for a 
change and I decided to take the Midget.  I got a demonstration of how much 
the Tartan Red stands out when viewed from a Subaru ...

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/ColourVisibility.jpg

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Aug 22 11:23:24 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] colour and visibility
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48AEF60C.1060307@lehigh.edu>

Robert Duquette wrote:
> I was juggling cars in the driveway this morning.  
Now that is talent that I would pay to see! Practicing for the Canadian 
version of "America's Got Talent" by any chance?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 11:31:38 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:31:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] colour and visibility
In-Reply-To: <48AEF60C.1060307@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3458E861DB1EDCD92AC837B86A0@phx.gbl>

'Cats'!  I meant to say 'cats' ... :)

LOL ... I got caught ... well, I tried juggling the video camera also, but I 
couldn't keep it steady enough, so ... no video.

I guess my talent wouldn't be "English"!! ;)


----Original Message Follows----
From: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>

Robert Duquette wrote:
>I was juggling cars in the driveway this morning.
Now that is talent that I would pay to see! Practicing for the Canadian 
version of "America's Got Talent" by any chance?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Fri Aug 22 11:34:01 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:34:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>

On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
> With my memory being what it isn't, part of finessing is checking  
> frequently
> to see what's still connected, before lifting the car ...



There's your problem.........


You should be lifting the engine ;}

Kevin V.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 11:36:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:36:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F3992349FF919B53EABB75DB86A0@phx.gbl>

Exactly ... but leave the ground strap connected and what happens?  :)
( I know the answer, btw. )

----Original Message Follows----
From: "K. Valentine" <kevin at valentinephoto.net>


On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>With my memory being what it isn't, part of finessing is checking  
>frequently
>to see what's still connected, before lifting the car ...



There's your problem.........


You should be lifting the engine ;}

Kevin V.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri Aug 22 11:59:16 2008
From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:59:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F3992349FF919B53EABB75DB86A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F3992349FF919B53EABB75DB86A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48AEFE74.1080003@b2systems.com>

Is it the same thing as when you leave the snaked through various parts
of the chassis and body so at to make it nearly impossible to replace
$185 speedo cable attached to the gearbox ?

It was many years ago and I am still upset so I know what happens
also.  It was not a Sprite that is why the cable was so expensive but I
bet its the same as a Sprite ground strap minus some choice words of
course because Spridget owners never cuss themselves out for doing
something stupid.

Mike (learned a lesson that day)

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Exactly ... but leave the ground strap connected and what happens?  :)
> ( I know the answer, btw. )
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "K. Valentine" <kevin at valentinephoto.net>
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>   
>> With my memory being what it isn't, part of finessing is checking  
>> frequently
>> to see what's still connected, before lifting the car ...
>>     
>
>
>
> There's your problem.........
>
>
> You should be lifting the engine ;}
>
> Kevin V.
>   
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bug Writer err...Programmer
       mikey at b2systems.com
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 12:47:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:47:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>
References: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>
	<5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808221147r179f9d46n1098b1f191bb731f@mail.gmail.com>

Unless, of course, you are using the Gorilla method where you disconnect
everything, then turn the car upside down and shake......    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM, K. Valentine <kevin at valentinephoto.net>wrote:

>
> There's your problem.........
>
>
> You should be lifting the engine ;}

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 22 12:54:47 2008
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
Message-ID: <415838.85875.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 
  Speaking of cats, thought I'd show you all that they indeed do make good
wheel chocks but it's hard to get them to stay that still.



 

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 14:33:33 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:33:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
In-Reply-To: <415838.85875.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <415838.85875.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808221333j718f2a3aga93c29d4074de58c@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>  Speaking of cats, thought I'd show you all that they indeed do make good
> wheel chocks but it's hard to get them to stay that still.


Pictures and attachments aren't allowed on the list, Bob so we didn't get to
see them...

Besides getting them to stay still is pretty easy.  Just shoot them and pop
them in the deep freeze. They work good that way until they thaw out....

Cheers!!
Jim

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri Aug 22 14:54:20 2008
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:54:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808221333j718f2a3aga93c29d4074de58c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <415838.85875.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0808221333j718f2a3aga93c29d4074de58c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48AF277C.6060502@smarc.net>

Why bother shooting them first?

Jim Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   
>>  Speaking of cats, thought I'd show you all that they indeed do make good
>> wheel chocks but it's hard to get them to stay that still.
>>     
>
>
> Pictures and attachments aren't allowed on the list, Bob so we didn't get to
> see them...
>
> Besides getting them to stay still is pretty easy.  Just shoot them and pop
> them in the deep freeze. They work good that way until they thaw out....

From justbrits at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 17:30:17 2008
From: justbrits at comcast.net (JB@comcast)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:30:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] colour and visibility
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEIACMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>

<<I was juggling cars in>>

At LEAST you weren't 'jiggling', RD!!!!!

HeeHee !!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 22 16:39:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:39:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important   Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808212230ia115fdayea3cec207f63654b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <909363.99067.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 8/22/08, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:
> IBC stands for Italian Bastard Cars. I have owned several
> over the years and
> every one was a bastard! 

I drive an Alfa every day for 8 months of the year. I've done nothing but change oil and add gasoline to it for the 2 years I've owned it (ok, I did change the alternator that was 31 years old). Spica fuel injection is just fine IF you don't touch it. Not as much fun, but for a little less money than a nice Spridget, it's been a great daily driver. Alfa people are awesome, too.

Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 22 16:45:32 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:45:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] colour and visibility
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEIACMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>
References: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEIACMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP27CFC53E0A99E74A96755FB86A0@phx.gbl>

I guess I meant 'shuffling'.  Oh well ...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of JB at comcast
Sent: August 22, 2008 7:30 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] colour and visibility

<<I was juggling cars in>>

At LEAST you weren't 'jiggling', RD!!!!!

HeeHee !! pridgets

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 22 16:46:41 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:46:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
In-Reply-To: <48AF277C.6060502@smarc.net>
References: <415838.85875.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0808221333j718f2a3aga93c29d4074de58c@mail.gmail.com>
	<48AF277C.6060502@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808221546j1441f55fj83f39239d07bf849@mail.gmail.com>

Keeps your shooting skills sharp.

Jim

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:

> Why bother shooting them first?
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Bob Van Kirk <racerbob70 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>  Speaking of cats, thought I'd show you all that they indeed do make
> good
> >> wheel chocks but it's hard to get them to stay that still.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Pictures and attachments aren't allowed on the list, Bob so we didn't get
> to
> > see them...
> >
> > Besides getting them to stay still is pretty easy.  Just shoot them and
> pop
> > them in the deep freeze. They work good that way until they thaw out....
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From justbrits at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 17:54:04 2008
From: justbrits at comcast.net (JB@comcast)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:54:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808221546j1441f55fj83f39239d07bf849@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEIDCMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>

<<Keeps your shooting skills sharp.>>

At sleeping cats???  Yeah, RIGHT!!!!

3 rounds from my Glock = NO wheel chock<F>!!  No fun either<G>!!

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Fri Aug 22 18:00:20 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:00:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEIDCMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001801c904b3$3c68d490$6401a8c0@Music>

I like to put a bowl of anti-freeze out to cool them off when they get hot, 
then when they've cooled off a bit they are real easy to put in the 
freezer....

 LOL 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug 22 18:07:11 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:07:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] wheel chocks/cats
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNMEIDCMAA.justbrits@comcast.net>
	<001801c904b3$3c68d490$6401a8c0@Music>
Message-ID: <4D25DF8885E845CAA3DA154A6ACC96C4@midget>

>I like to put a bowl of anti-freeze out to cool them off when they get hot,
> then when they've cooled off a bit they are real easy to put in the
> freezer....

All in the spirit of good clean fun and all that, but I happen to have lost 
a great german shepherd, probably the best dog I will ever have, to 
antifreeze. Sorta takes the joke right out of such references. Not only is 
the stuff poisonous, but if they survive that, it crystallizes in their 
kidneys and shreds them. Not the way to kill anything. I also happen to like 
all three of our cool cats. Can we back this off a notch or two, please?
David Lieb
Oreo
Hobbes
Misty
and in memory of Gideon 

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 20:04:02 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:04:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun!
Message-ID: <082320080204.12920.48AF7012000749C4000032782215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

so back in May i put in a sony stereo head unit into my 74 midget. Its been fine with no problems till Wednesday on my way into work.  I went to shut off my heater fan (it was low 50's)  and a few seconds later the radio dies.  I have constant power from the hazard switch but no display or music.  It was suggested that its grounded out somewhere, how do I go about finding and fixing this problem???
ryan

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Aug 22 20:29:32 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:29:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More on visibility
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6CEDA9892C284DBE8A94A951F4259C10@Home>

I was fussing with my tail lights today, putting on the rounded fixtures 
from a pre-1970 car, which has the dual-filament running/stop bulb on the 
bottom instead of the top like the later cars.  I think higher is better for 
the running lights, and I realized that the running filaments are the 
weakest of all.  The turn signal is brightest.  So I rewired the fixture to: 
1.  Brightest on top for running; 2. Next brightest on the bottom for 
stopping;  3.  Weakest on the bottom for turning.  The fixture is all red, 
no yellow part.

My mechanic/tutor came over and said, "What'd you do that for?  Don't you 
think they have this figured out after 30 years?"  I am not sure that they 
did have it figured out.  They certainly did not consider SUV's on the Long 
Island Expressway at night when they came up with this configuration.  And 
they did change the arrangement somewhat in 1970.

So what is the concensus of the list?  I think that the primary 
consideration is to be seen by Robert Duquette's Subaru and it's cousins 
approaching from the rear at night.  I don't judge turn signals as highest 
priority.  Maybe the stop lights should be the brightest, but that puts the 
running lights  closer to the road.

Are there brighter bulbs that will fit the sockets and not overheat the 
wires?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 22 21:32:07 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:32:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun!
In-Reply-To: <082320080204.12920.48AF7012000749C4000032782215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEIOCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<how do I go about finding and fixing this problem???>>

Start with loosing the console and move it back an inch or so and see if
thing work.

Then it's up to YOU, Ryan.  EVERYTHING else is PURE guesswork.

YOU have to do the work/troubleshooting.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 22 21:35:04 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:35:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More on visibility
In-Reply-To: <6CEDA9892C284DBE8A94A951F4259C10@Home>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNIEIOCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I don't judge turn signals as highest priority>>

You will when rear ended when TURNING, Michael<G>!!

<<Are there brighter bulbs that will fit the sockets and not overheat the 
wires?>>

Prob'ly a couple thousand 'items' in Archives.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 20:44:20 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:44:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week,
 No Important    Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <909363.99067.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <909363.99067.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
>
>  Alfa people are awesome, too.
>
>
>   
Since I only know one Alfa person, and that's YOU, I guess I could agree.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Aug 22 20:52:56 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:52:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exterior light fun
In-Reply-To: <20080818.151743.12069.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20080823025300.XZMD25274.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi all-

So here is where I am at-

I'll open with this-
I think my 66 MKIII has the original and correct wire harness.
I have a decent schematic I think.  I have matched the colors up.

Good things, I have working brake lights and tail lights.  Dash lights too,
but the generator and high beam lights are always on.

Most of the gauges light up, and the switch on the dash turns them on and
off.
 
I cannot get the headlights nor directionals to work.  I do know through
testing that all the bulbs are good.  Is there another ground I should be
looking at?

Damn thing runs great otherwise.

Chris

Brookfield, WI

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 21:09:01 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:09:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Stickers
Message-ID: <48AF7F4D.50605@comcast.net>

I received the stickers today.
The new stickers are very nice. red and gold on white.
I filled the SASE and got them out in todays mail.
If your SASE is still on it's way to me, no worrys, I will send it out 
as soon as it comes.
Peter, I'll mail your batch when I send you money or cores or whatever.
If you did not get the message, new Spridgets stickers are here.
Send a self addressed stamped envelope to me with $1 for each sticker 
and I will mail them back to you.
Anybody coming to the Oshit this Sunday, remind me about the stickers.

Frank Clarici
631 Parkside ave
Toms River, NJ 08753

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug 22 21:13:55 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:13:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] exterior light fun
In-Reply-To: <20080823025300.XZMD25274.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080823025300.XZMD25274.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <48AF8073.4000405@comcast.net>

Chris Manuel wrote:
> I cannot get the headlights nor directionals to work.  I do know through
> testing that all the bulbs are good.  Is there another ground I should be
> looking at?
>
>   

There is a ground that bolts to the right front inner fender. That is 
the head lamp ground.
Also double check the bullet connections behind the grille, they usually 
give you trouble where the 4 wires come into those dual bullet 
connector. (black wires)
The front parking lamps ground via the bolts to the body. New paint may 
be inhibiting the ground
Make sure the back of the lamp base and inside of the fender where the 
nut goes, are clean and bare metal.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 22 22:16:42 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:16:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Stickers
In-Reply-To: <48AF7F4D.50605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEJBCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<...remind me about the stickers.>>

Duh.  

EVERYBODY knows YOU have a mind like rotten Swiss cheese, Frank!!

er, might even be that 'good'!!!

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 22 21:17:54 2008
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] posting of Kitty Kat pics
Message-ID: <299490.80021.qm@web51610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Pics can now be seen at www.justbrits.com/08/cats.htm enjoy.
 
Thanks ED

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Aug 22 21:39:13 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:39:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Stickers
In-Reply-To: <48AF7F4D.50605@comcast.net>
References: <48AF7F4D.50605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48AF23F1.13255.2E41732@dmg.bossig.com>

I have not seen the new or original stickers....
SO would somebody please, please, tell me what size SASE to sendto 
Frank !!

TIA

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

The Original Point and Click  --- Smith and Wesson....

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Aug 22 22:30:08 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:30:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun!
In-Reply-To: <082320080204.12920.48AF7012000749C4000032782215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C4D4E060.192F8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> about finding and fixing this problem???
Replace the Sony with an Alpine.

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Aug 22 22:34:07 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 21:34:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] More on visibility
References: <BAY112-F39F6A3AADA0649E95B4E1CB86A0@phx.gbl>
	<6CEDA9892C284DBE8A94A951F4259C10@Home>
Message-ID: <93FB98A1DB684859BB02B191727036A7@dave>

The brake and turn fillaments are equal in output.  The running needs to be 
dimmer than brake, or nobody will know when you apply the brakes and they 
will run into you.  In Europe, rear turn signals have to be yellow, and 
brake and running lights are red.  So the top light lens is yellow on Euro 
cars, and is in the top position.  The bottom lens is red, because the 
brake, running, and reflector can all be moulded with the same colour 
plastic.  Interestingly, in 1970, USA tail lights did go two tone, with red 
running/brake light on top, and the turn signal lower,  however on British 
models, the yellow turn light stayed on top, and the red portion of the lens 
stayed on the bottom.  I have changed to the early british yellow upper lens 
for my turn signals so that there is no question from behind if I am 
stopping or turning.
Dave R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 7:29 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] More on visibility


  So I rewired the fixture to:
> 1.  Brightest on top for running; 2. Next brightest on the bottom for
> stopping;  3.  Weakest on the bottom for turning.  The fixture is all red,
> no yellow part.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug 23 00:00:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>
References: <909363.99067.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808222300l2d1e236cl278fc83e0cd2ace7@mail.gmail.com>

I find Alpha people overbearing and somewhat obnoxious. How do you find Beta
people?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 9:44 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Ron Soave wrote:
> >
> >  Alfa people are awesome, too.
> >
> >
> >
> Since I only know one Alfa person, and that's YOU, I guess I could agree.

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sat Aug 23 03:09:28 2008
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:09:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun!
In-Reply-To: <082320080204.12920.48AF7012000749C4000032782215575474000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <552841.7920.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ryan
Every stereo I have ever seen has a glass fuse in a holder on the red wire, or
more recently a coloured plastic fuse somewhere on the back...you have of
course checked the fuse....?

If the fuse is ok then run wires direct from the battery to the stereo, so you
know there's no chance of a dodgy connection somewhere, and if it still
dosen't work, then dig out the receipt and take it back!

I have found that stereos don't last long in my Mk2a... pretty harsh
conditions...dust, moisture etc...
Andy

--- On Sat, 23/8/08, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
wrote:

> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun!
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Received: Saturday, 23 August, 2008, 12:04 PM
> so back in May i put in a sony stereo head unit into my 74
> midget. Its been fine with no problems till Wednesday on my
> way into work.  I went to shut off my heater fan (it was low
> 50's)  and a few seconds later the radio dies.  I have
> constant power from the hazard switch but no display or
> music.  It was suggested that its grounded out somewhere,
> how do I go about finding and fixing this problem???
> ryan
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 23 06:22:31 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week,
 No Important    Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <137465.52702.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> Since I only know one Alfa person

Thanks, buddy! The others are out there. They look a lot like LBC owners. To paraphrase Peter Egan, an Alfa owner looks either like a shade tree mechanic or soon to become one.

Ron
3 LBCs
1 LIC

From vern at srvinet.com  Sat Aug 23 07:00:30 2008
From: vern at srvinet.com (Vernon Olson)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 07:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine restraint
Message-ID: <48B009EE.3020808@srvinet.com>

Can someone tell me if my 59 bugeye had an
engine restrain?  I haven't seen anything under
it that looks like an attach point to the frame.
Haven't seen anything in any of my books either.
I'm considering just fabricating a chain setup.
Vern

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug 23 07:25:28 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:25:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine restraint
In-Reply-To: <48B009EE.3020808@srvinet.com>
References: <48B009EE.3020808@srvinet.com>
Message-ID: <48B00FC8.4090602@comcast.net>

Vernon Olson wrote:
> Can someone tell me if my 59 bugeye had an
> engine restrain?  I haven't seen anything under
> it that looks like an attach point to the frame.
> Haven't seen anything in any of my books either.
> I'm considering just fabricating a chain setup.
>
>   
The only restraint on all Spridget engines up thru 1973 was the ground 
strap.
If you don't believe me, try pulling the engine if you forgot to remove 
the ground strap.
It is a 1/2" thick cable, maybe it served a dual purpose. Ground AND 
restraint ;)
in late 73 or 74 for sure, they did use a cable from the frame to the 
tranny mount as a restraint.
This was to keep the engine/trans with the car in the event of a serious 
accident.
But if you wreck a Midget that bad where the engine and trans go sailing 
down the street,
You're dead.
Kevin may have exatly what you want, I have removed them and thrown them 
out, a royal PITA to work around if you ask me.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Aug 23 19:33:13 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:33:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugzuki Lives
Message-ID: <01f401c90589$6061f260$4e947e4c@HP>

http://www.ado13.com/dohczuke/dohc.htm

Finally got the time to put in the new exhaust cam. The cam gear will attach 
to the cam in two ways, the right way and the wrong way. Of course the first 
time I did it the wrong way. It is now together correctly and it runs.

Larry Miller

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 23 20:26:25 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:26:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ADFM-PDX
Message-ID: <1738183137.20080823192625@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

       Everyone in the Pacific Northwest should be aware if they aren't
  already that Labor Day Weekend harbingers the arrival of the
  Portland Oregon All British Field Meet. Held in conjunction with the
  SOVERN vintage car races at Portland International Raceway, it is
  purported to be the largest All British this side of Chicago, with
  upwards of 800 cars each and every year.
       This will be the first time that I have a club affiliation to
  list on my entry form: Sprite-Midget Club USA! I don't know if it
  will be printed on the "placard" or not, But for those who weren't
  able to attend LotO, they will know MY car (if you have any interest
  whatever) by the SPRIDGETS sticker high on the passenger side
  windscreen, the LotO number in the middle of the same windscreen and
  a proudly displayed metallic badge showing my aforementioned club
  "membership".

  N.F.I.

  See ya there?



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "I'm glad I passed my EKG," Tom said wholeheartedly.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug 23 21:58:19 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 22:58:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
Message-ID: <006501c9059d$a56f50f0$6401a8c0@personal>

I received my latest goodie for Miss Agatha. A "Jack", yea I know I am one.
Really it is the upright part with the screw. It is in really really nice
condition, very pleased with my purchase.

Now What I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the one for
the jack.

Anyone have same that they can get along without. If so Email me or something
with a price please.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 06:15:39 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:15:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <137465.52702.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>
	<137465.52702.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808240515m4b8e05a1lc262bdd10af7005@mail.gmail.com>

To be honest, even though I respect your opinion greatly Ron, ALL dealings
with things Italian have not been good.
Granted, the cars were Fiat, but the industrial equipment has been high
tech/high maintenance. Lord help you if you need tech advice from someone in
Italy as well. It would have you singing praises to your Pakastani computer
tech in a matter of seconds.
Ron, the only thing I can suggest, is perhaps you just got a lemon....

Brad

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Since I only know one Alfa person
>
> Thanks, buddy! The others are out there. They look a lot like LBC owners.
> To paraphrase Peter Egan, an Alfa owner looks either like a shade tree
> mechanic or soon to become one.
>
> Ron
> 3 LBCs
> 1 LIC
>  _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>



-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 06:16:47 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 07:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important  Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808240515m4b8e05a1lc262bdd10af7005@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net>
	<137465.52702.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88090808240515m4b8e05a1lc262bdd10af7005@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808240516l5314e327k78ac1cbb30c0263@mail.gmail.com>

OOPS, that should read "have not been good for ME"

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

>  To be honest, even though I respect your opinion greatly Ron,
> ALL dealings with things Italian have not been good.
> Granted, the cars were Fiat, but the industrial equipment has been high
> tech/high maintenance. Lord help you if you need tech advice from someone in
> Italy as well. It would have you singing praises to your Pakastani computer
> tech in a matter of seconds.
> Ron, the only thing I can suggest, is perhaps you just got a lemon....
>
> Brad
>
>   On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Since I only know one Alfa person
>>
>> Thanks, buddy! The others are out there. They look a lot like LBC owners.
>> To paraphrase Peter Egan, an Alfa owner looks either like a shade tree
>> mechanic or soon to become one.
>>
>> Ron
>> 3 LBCs
>> 1 LIC
>>  _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com
>>
>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
>>
>
>
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad
>



-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Aug 24 09:44:54 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:44:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Sightings in TN last week, No Important   Stuff!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808240515m4b8e05a1lc262bdd10af7005@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48AF7984.8080505@comcast.net><137465.52702.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88090808240515m4b8e05a1lc262bdd10af7005@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP173FC26A0E00BD875A7F83B8640@phx.gbl>

Well, I own a Fiat X1/9 ( aka 'baby ferrari ) and it is quite a fun car to
drive, tho' I haven't driven it in 2 years.  I am planning to take it out
this fall and let it stretch it's legs.

What I have figure out, is how to get the weber to work right.  It dies at
idle.  I have often heard you guys talking about blowing out jets ... how
does one do that?

RD

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal

To be honest, even though I respect your opinion greatly Ron, ALL dealings
with things Italian have not been good for me.
Granted, the cars were Fiat, but the industrial equipment has been high
tech/high maintenance. Lord help you if you need tech advice from someone in
Italy as well. It would have you singing praises to your Pakastani computer
tech in a matter of seconds.
Ron, the only thing I can suggest, is perhaps you just got a lemon....

Brad

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Since I only know one Alfa person
>
> Thanks, buddy! The others are out there. They look a lot like LBC owners.
> To paraphrase Peter Egan, an Alfa owner looks either like a shade tree
> mechanic or soon to become one.
>
> Ron
> 3 LBCs
> 1 LIC

From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Aug 24 09:46:02 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:46:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
In-Reply-To: <006501c9059d$a56f50f0$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <20080824154601.BE9FD187655@autox.team.net>

I have one, it is a King Dick and I want $500 for it.
		Crash 


I received my latest goodie for Miss Agatha. A "Jack", yea I know I am one.
Really it is the upright part with the screw. It is in really really nice
condition, very pleased with my purchase.

Now What I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the one
for
the jack.

Anyone have same that they can get along without. If so Email me or
something
with a price please.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 24 10:09:07 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:09:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
References: <20080824154622.FSEI28286.fed1rmmtai111.cox.net@fed1rmimpi04.cox.net>
Message-ID: <001201c90603$bca7ec80$6401a8c0@personal>

Haha, put the descimal place two to the right pls.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
To: "'Jack Laird'" <jlaird237 at cox.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Jack wrench


>I have one, it is a King Dick and I want $500 for it.
> Crash
>
>
> I received my latest goodie for Miss Agatha. A "Jack", yea I know I am 
> one.
> Really it is the upright part with the screw. It is in really really nice
> condition, very pleased with my purchase.
>
> Now What I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the one
> for
> the jack.
>
> Anyone have same that they can get along without. If so Email me or
> something
> with a price please.
>


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 24 10:13:38 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:13:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
References: <20080824154622.FSEI28286.fed1rmmtai111.cox.net@fed1rmimpi04.cox.net>
	<001201c90603$bca7ec80$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <FEA8E158E15446E58A1B09620A86133F@midget>

>>> Now what I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the 
>>> one for the jack.

>>I have one, it is a King Dick and I want $500 for it.
>> Crash

> Haha, put the decimal place two to the right pls.

Crash,
Quick, take him up on it!!! He wants to pay $50,000.00 for a jack wrench! At 
that price you should probably throw in the blue Bugeye, too.
David Lieb 

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 24 10:35:44 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:35:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
References: <20080824154622.FSEI28286.fed1rmmtai111.cox.net@fed1rmimpi04.cox.net>
	<001201c90603$bca7ec80$6401a8c0@personal>
	<FEA8E158E15446E58A1B09620A86133F@midget>
Message-ID: <001201c90607$7466ed50$6401a8c0@personal>

Yea well my other right.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Jack wrench


>>>> Now what I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the
>>>> one for the jack.
>
>>>I have one, it is a King Dick and I want $500 for it.
>>> Crash
>
>> Haha, put the decimal place two to the right pls.
>
> Crash,
> Quick, take him up on it!!! He wants to pay $50,000.00 for a jack wrench! 
> At
> that price you should probably throw in the blue Bugeye, too.
> David Lieb
>


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 10:40:27 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:40:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Arrives!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808240940t4d8c3aa6nee2623b9bbc3a562@mail.gmail.com>

A quick report. Just got off the phone with Frank. The Holy Sprite arrived
in Toms River about an hour ago. The Journey of Redemption is now over. Now
begins the Holy Sprite Rite of Transubstantiation!  At least 2 rituals are
planned. One the last weekend in September and another in late October -
dates TBD. The Holy Sprite page will be updated immediately at:
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Aug 24 11:01:52 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:01:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Pic URL
References: <43840a7e0808240927s19f47aedq7eabb7bcc5d30d9b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6884C229-2DD8-4F5C-9AF1-D90CE2145777@phillymgclub.com>

The Holy Sprite has arrived in Toms River!!


I just sent a pic of Fr. Jack and the Holy Sprite to the gallery.  
Address is below.

Larry

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
>

> Pics URL:  http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>
> Send pics to: <lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Aug 24 11:11:24 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:11:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pic URL
In-Reply-To: <6884C229-2DD8-4F5C-9AF1-D90CE2145777@phillymgclub.com>
References: <43840a7e0808240927s19f47aedq7eabb7bcc5d30d9b@mail.gmail.com>
	<6884C229-2DD8-4F5C-9AF1-D90CE2145777@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <97097FB4-A14F-4A8D-A084-5055F3194D3D@phillymgclub.com>

Apparently it didn't load yet. I'll post more later.

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating.with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

On Aug 24, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> The Holy Sprite has arrived in Toms River!!
>
>
> I just sent a pic of Fr. Jack and the Holy Sprite to the gallery.  
> Address is below.
>
> Larry
>
> Larry Macy, Ph.D
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for  
> communicating.with people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin
>
> Sent via iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>
>> Pics URL:  http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
>>
>> Send pics to: <lmacy-tx34 at post.me.com>
>> -- 
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 11:40:31 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:40:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite, was Journey of Redemption,
 now Rite of  Transubstantiation
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808241040l34608554ydfafc4042609efc4@mail.gmail.com>

For all how have been or might be interested in following the ongoing saga
of the Holy Sprite, I have updated the page at:
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

The location of this page is temporary and Google will not find it so you
will want to add it to your bookmarks for now. I hope to get it up on the
Sprite - Midget Club USA website very soon. Once there, search engines will
find it.

Also, Frank is still looking for some parts and there is still a need for
some funding. If you can help, anything would be appreciated. Go to the
following link to find out how you can help with the project:
http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/help.pdf
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 12:04:43 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:04:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Holy Sprite,
 was Journey of  Redemption, now Rite of Transubstantiation
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808241040l34608554ydfafc4042609efc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808241040l34608554ydfafc4042609efc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040808241104n5f3a0c5ejf5e59eb744836c47@mail.gmail.com>

Jim, I'm waiting on a "needed parts list".  Then I'll send any useful
spares I have and a check to help out with parts purchasing.

Trevor

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> For all how have been or might be interested in following the ongoing saga
> of the Holy Sprite, I have updated the page at:
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html
>
> The location of this page is temporary and Google will not find it so you
> will want to add it to your bookmarks for now. I hope to get it up on the
> Sprite - Midget Club USA website very soon. Once there, search engines will
> find it.
>
> Also, Frank is still looking for some parts and there is still a need for
> some funding. If you can help, anything would be appreciated. Go to the
> following link to find out how you can help with the project:
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/help.pdf
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 24 14:39:57 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:39:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Holy Sprite,
 was  Journey of  Redemption, now Rite of Transubstantiation
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040808241104n5f3a0c5ejf5e59eb744836c47@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOENPCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Jim, I'm waiting on a "needed parts list".>>

BEFORE 'god' himself decided HE was in-charge Trev, there WAS Frank's Actual
Wish-List at www.holysprite.org !!

TOO bad HE decided HE was 'in-charge' as Father Jack WOULD have ended up
with the same thing Pam & Buster did!!!

See:   www.bustercluster2006.org

Me

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 24 13:59:24 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:59:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Holy
 Sprite, was Journey of Redemption, now Rite of Transubstantiation
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOENPCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <8c1781040808241104n5f3a0c5ejf5e59eb744836c47@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOENPCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808241259l736ccd37md3bc01f31284bf1a@mail.gmail.com>

Just to try to clear any confusion...  The list Frank sent out on Spridgets
earlier is the one Ed scooped up and put on that horrid black page he has
up. That list as most of you will understand was a preliminary list which
Frank did before even seeing the car or knowing what it needed. Now that the
car is at Franks place, a complete and useful list can be made which should
be available soon at:

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

I should also mention that Buster is still furious with Ed for meddling in
BusterCluster and for all his vitriolic name calling. We moved on from Ed
some time ago. Father Jack WILL end up with something very similar to the
BusterCluster. What a pathetic, sour, spiteful, pityful, insipid and grouchy
old person.

Signed
God (apparently...)

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

>
>
> <<Jim, I'm waiting on a "needed parts list".>>
>
> BEFORE 'god' himself decided HE was in-charge Trev, there WAS Frank's
> Actual
> Wish-List at www.holysprite.org !!
>
> TOO bad HE decided HE was 'in-charge' as Father Jack WOULD have ended up
> with the same thing Pam & Buster did!!!
>
> See: www.bustercluster2006.org

From breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 24 14:52:07 2008
From: breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com (Bree Anna)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:52:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-Thank you and 1 more ?
Message-ID: <694321.21895.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Listers,

Just want to thank all of you that sent a response to my request for 
driving directions out to Medford, Oregon. It was so appreciated...again THANKS!!!

NOw I have one more question. I will be leaving somewhere around August 31st or Sept. 1st and was wondering if any of you would be willing to go out of your way to help in case of an emergency along the way just in case I have any problems with my car since I will be towing a small u-haul trailor in a small car. You never know what "might" happen.

I will be leaving Fort Worth, Tx going west on 287 thru Amarillo, Texas on into Albuquerque, New Mexico on 40 thru Arizona on 40 and then hitting Rt. 58 at Barstow over to RT. 5 to Bakersville and staying on RT. 5 all the way into Medford, Ore.

If you feel you would like to help me out on this journey please email me off list with a telephone # that I could reach you with. I will only be driving during the daylight hours, so if anything did happen I would not have to drag anyone out of bed.

Thanks again for all the great advice on a route to take and if you are willing to help with any problems i might entail while traveling, again I would appreciate it so much.

Thanks in Advance!
Bree!
East Texas

From breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 24 15:03:42 2008
From: breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com (Bree Anna)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] oops!
Message-ID: <417605.42026.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry I will be leaving on 287 NORTH...to 40. 


Bree!
East Texas


--- On Sun, 8/24/08, Bree Anna <breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Bree Anna <breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC-Thank you and 1 more ?
> To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 3:52 PM
> Hello Listers,
> 
> Just want to thank all of you that sent a response to my
> request for 
> driving directions out to Medford, Oregon. It was so
> appreciated...again THANKS!!!
> 
> NOw I have one more question. I will be leaving somewhere
> around August 31st or Sept. 1st and was wondering if any of
> you would be willing to go out of your way to help in case
> of an emergency along the way just in case I have any
> problems with my car since I will be towing a small u-haul
> trailor in a small car. You never know what
> "might" happen.
> 
> I will be leaving Fort Worth, Tx going west on 287 thru
> Amarillo, Texas on into Albuquerque, New Mexico on 40 thru
> Arizona on 40 and then hitting Rt. 58 at Barstow over to RT.
> 5 to Bakersville and staying on RT. 5 all the way into
> Medford, Ore.
> 
> If you feel you would like to help me out on this journey
> please email me off list with a telephone # that I could
> reach you with. I will only be driving during the daylight
> hours, so if anything did happen I would not have to drag
> anyone out of bed.
> 
> Thanks again for all the great advice on a route to take
> and if you are willing to help with any problems i might
> entail while traveling, again I would appreciate it so much.
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> Bree!
> East Texas
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sun Aug 24 16:51:20 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:51:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack wrench
In-Reply-To: <001201c90603$bca7ec80$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <20080824225121.7DA53187656@autox.team.net>

For $50,000 I'll throw in a parts car too.


Haha, put the descimal place two to the right pls.



>I have one, it is a King Dick and I want $500 for it.
> Crash
>
>
> I received my latest goodie for Miss Agatha. A "Jack", yea I know I am 
> one.
> Really it is the upright part with the screw. It is in really really nice
> condition, very pleased with my purchase.
>
> Now What I need is a jack wrench not the one for the lug nuts but the one
> for
> the jack.
>
> Anyone have same that they can get along without. If so Email me or
> something
> with a price please.

From Mjsprite at aol.com  Sun Aug 24 17:36:40 2008
From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:36:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Gate's PowerGrip Hose Clamps
Message-ID: <c29.3da590d4.35e34a88@aol.com>

Hey Listers,
Anybody using or had any experience with the Gate's PowerGrip hose clamps?  
Guy at the parts store said they were a PITA to get on, but then what do they  
know. I've got my Samco hoses I'd like to install and thought these clamps 
would  make for a clean and neat appearance.
Thanks,
Mike
'69 Sprite 'Bilbo'



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Sun Aug 24 19:25:24 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:25:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
Message-ID: <50262.72.71.217.7.1219627524.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Hi All,
I've put a 1275 from a 74 into a Bugeye using the original type Bugeye
radiator.  The gooseneck outlet on the 1275 goes toward the driver side. 
The radiator needs a gooseneck that exits on the passsenger side. Is there
 a gooseneck that faces the other direction?  I can't just turn it around
because of the bolt pattern.
Any suggestions? Thanks/
Dick B. in NH

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 24 19:36:52 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
References: <50262.72.71.217.7.1219627524.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <001701c90653$0d16f3b0$6401a8c0@personal>

Will a bugeye, 948 outlet fit?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:25 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck


> Hi All,
> I've put a 1275 from a 74 into a Bugeye using the original type Bugeye
> radiator.  The gooseneck outlet on the 1275 goes toward the driver side.
> The radiator needs a gooseneck that exits on the passsenger side. Is there
> a gooseneck that faces the other direction?  I can't just turn it around
> because of the bolt pattern.
> Any suggestions? Thanks/
> Dick B. in NH
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 24 19:37:35 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:37:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <50262.72.71.217.7.1219627524.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <209681.86213.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Gooseneck" meaning thermostat cover? You just need an earlier one that points the other way. All of mine are in use at the moment, but I'm sure there's one out there (I'm a big fan of the earlier radiator). 

Ron 

--- On Sun, 8/24/08, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:

> From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 8:25 PM
> Hi All,
> I've put a 1275 from a 74 into a Bugeye using the
> original type Bugeye
> radiator.  The gooseneck outlet on the 1275 goes toward the
> driver side. 
> The radiator needs a gooseneck that exits on the passsenger
> side. Is there
>  a gooseneck that faces the other direction?  I can't
> just turn it around
> because of the bolt pattern.
> Any suggestions? Thanks/
> Dick B. in NH
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Aug 24 20:24:12 2008
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:24:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Holy
 Sprite, was Journey of Redemption, now Rite of Transubstantiation
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808241259l736ccd37md3bc01f31284bf1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c1781040808241104n5f3a0c5ejf5e59eb744836c47@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOENPCMAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<43840a7e0808241259l736ccd37md3bc01f31284bf1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B217CC.5040100@verizon.net>

    Dear God,

    Can I have a new puppy - mine died. Or ran away. Or was taken up in 
a spaceship.

    Thanks in advance,

                                              ME

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Sun Aug 24 20:31:37 2008
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:31:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood (bonnet ) support
Message-ID: <50576.72.71.217.7.1219631497.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>

Hi All,
Will a hood support from a later car (74 Midget) work on a bugeye if I
have the T shaped bracket for the bottom?
Thanks
Dick B. in NH

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 24 21:30:24 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:30:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <001701c90653$0d16f3b0$6401a8c0@personal>
References: <50262.72.71.217.7.1219627524.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net>
	<001701c90653$0d16f3b0$6401a8c0@personal>
Message-ID: <48B22750.8060008@comcast.net>

Jack Laird wrote:
> Will a bugeye, 948 outlet fit?
>
>
>   
It will if you use the shallow Bugeye thermostat.
1098 covers work as does 1967 1275, 68 went the other way with the cross 
flow rad.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 24 21:49:44 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:49:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
Message-ID: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>

The Holy Sprite arrived and I truly believe there was a bit of divine 
intervention on it's journey after seeing that trailer.
The trailer is bent and buckled but it arrived safe and sound.
Father Jack stopped by early this morning on his way to give the 10:00 
Mass. He was hoping the car was here.
It was not. ;( Today's 10:00 mass must have been the shortest mass ever 
because Fr was back here at 11:15 and so was the Holy Sprite. Now that 
church is a solid 20 minutes away from my house and the priest is the 
last to leave.
There are or will be pictures of Fr Jack seeing the Holy Sprite posted at  
> http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100141
Fr helped with the dis-assembly of his car while still in his back shirt 
and white collar. Ever see a priest with greasy hands?
I think we tired him out as he asked permission to "go ashore" about 
6:00 pm as we worked another hour or so removing the entire suspension 
from the car.
The car is 100% stripped, it is a shell, doors are off and stripped of 
alum trim, every nut and bolt is off the car as are snaps, studs, brake 
pipes, shocks, A arms, and rear end.
Dash is out, harness is out, it is just a shell ready for the 9/26 body 
work Oshit session.
I have to say, California cars are a wonderful thing. No rust, every 
bolt came out like it was installed yesterday.
Here in the east, we soak every nut and bolt for a week before we think 
about removing it. We heat them all to a cherry red just before we put a 
wrench on it and then we beat the wrench with a BFH until we snap it off.
It's just a way of life on this side of the country. Then we figure out 
how much metal we need to make it look like a car again as we cut out 
all the swiss cheese like stuff that used to be a body panel.
I mean even the E brake handle screws came out with no effort. I usually 
chisel the off and reweld nuts on the back side of the holder. Not this 
time.
Maybe some of that divine intervention? Or are all CA cars a piece of 
cake to work on?
The body work should take about 4 hours for the rough stuff,  some minor 
welding, and a small patch in the floor.
This is normal on a 5 year old car in the north east, not a 49 year old 
car. Heck, the Holy Sprite needs less metal work than my 59 which I 
restored 5 years ago!
Thanks to all the guys and girls who helped out today.
The guys worked on George's 62 Sprite, Ryan's Midget, and the Holy Sprite.
The girls kept us in food and drink but we did have to take them out for 
dinner after the day was done.
A GREAT day, lot's of Spridgets, lots of work accomplished, and lots of 
laughs.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 24 22:02:00 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:02:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
References: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1425224800.20080824210200@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     You're used to working on cars where they salt the roads!
     Somewhere around Minnesota they stop doing that crap. Its nothing
     to see a twenty or thirty year old car still on the road out here
     that has never had any significant work done to it other than
     things like shocks, brakes and standard tune ups... While i was
     living in N.Y. State it was an occasion to see anything more than
     5 years old without rust holes, UNLESS it was kept garaged during
     the winter... That said, California and Arizona cars ARE
     particularly well preserved, as surprisingly are vehicles in
     IDAHO! 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Crime, Sex, Alcohol, Drugs...Boy do I love Congress 

From dmg at bossig.com  Sun Aug 24 22:09:25 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:09:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
References: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48B1CE05.12928.2BF55B6@dmg.bossig.com>

Frank,

Thanks for the update.... much appreciated    ;-^}

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 01:59:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:59:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Needed for Father Jack's Holy Sprite...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808250059s51d605a1j2816f03815cd8a4d@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Now is the time to dig a little deeper in you pocket and see if you can help
with the Holy Sprite. Per Frank's assessment we are going to need something
around $2K to get the job done. Of that, nearly $700 has already been
donated and a few people have parts yet to donate which may lower the total.
Anyway, presntly the total we need to raise is around $1300 to cover the
cost of restoration. That's 20 of you at $50 each and you get a Holy Sprite
T-shirt in return! We considered sending each $100 donor a 20 year old porn
star. You can guess how that idea went over!  ;-)  If you can help, send
your donation via PayPal to Spritenut-at-comcast-dot-net.

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From gmari2 at verizon.net  Mon Aug 25 04:25:18 2008
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:25:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
Message-ID: <23969308.1960471219659918900.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost>

A public thank you to all of the OSHIT crew who worked on my daughters 
MKII.  Especially thanks to Frank & Kevin who did the brunt of the work. 
The meeting did a couple of things.
1.  I found out I need to rebuild the MC
2.  I need better tires

THe ride home was pretty good.  We nearly overheated, and lost most of 
the clutch and brakes.  Overall it was a great day with great folks.

George

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Aug 25 05:01:59 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:01:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20080825110202.EB143187674@autox.team.net>

Frank, what you have to remember is that car is the kind we throw away in
California as not worth restoring.  With so many good cars around why waste
your time on rust.
		Crash

I have to say, California cars are a wonderful thing. No rust, every 
bolt came out like it was installed yesterday.
Here in the east, we soak every nut and bolt for a week before we think 
about removing it. We heat them all to a cherry red just before we put a 
wrench on it and then we beat the wrench with a BFH until we snap it off.
It's just a way of life on this side of the country. Then we figure out 
how much metal we need to make it look like a car again as we cut out 
all the swiss cheese like stuff that used to be a body panel.
I mean even the E brake handle screws came out with no effort. I usually 
chisel the off and reweld nuts on the back side of the holder. Not this 
time.
Maybe some of that divine intervention? Or are all CA cars a piece of 
cake to work on?
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 05:11:49 2008
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:11:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Needed for Father Jack's Holy Sprite...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808250059s51d605a1j2816f03815cd8a4d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808250059s51d605a1j2816f03815cd8a4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040808250411u7f4252cfk72a1575041bf0cbd@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think I have many of the needed parts so I'm going to sell a
few spridget parts on Ebay and donate money from those sells to the
Holy Sprite fund.

Trevor

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Spridgeteers,
>
> Now is the time to dig a little deeper in you pocket and see if you can help
> with the Holy Sprite. Per Frank's assessment we are going to need something
> around $2K to get the job done. Of that, nearly $700 has already been
> donated and a few people have parts yet to donate which may lower the total.
> Anyway, presntly the total we need to raise is around $1300 to cover the
> cost of restoration. That's 20 of you at $50 each and you get a Holy Sprite
> T-shirt in return! We considered sending each $100 donor a 20 year old porn
> star. You can guess how that idea went over!  ;-)  If you can help, send
> your donation via PayPal to Spritenut-at-comcast-dot-net.
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 25 05:53:32 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:53:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Needed for Father Jack's Holy Sprite...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808250059s51d605a1j2816f03815cd8a4d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <963051.32486.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Done. Speaking of which, how is Paul A. doing? Does the fund need freshening?

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Needed for Father Jack's Holy Sprite...
> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:59 AM
> Spridgeteers,
> 
> Now is the time to dig a little deeper in you pocket and
> see if you can help
> with the Holy Sprite. Per Frank's assessment we are
> going to need something
> around $2K to get the job done. Of that, nearly $700 has
> already been
> donated and a few people have parts yet to donate which may
> lower the total.
> Anyway, presntly the total we need to raise is around $1300
> to cover the
> cost of restoration. That's 20 of you at $50 each and
> you get a Holy Sprite
> T-shirt in return! We considered sending each $100 donor a
> 20 year old porn
> star. You can guess how that idea went over!  ;-)  If you
> can help, send
> your donation via PayPal to Spritenut-at-comcast-dot-net.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 06:04:36 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 07:04:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I "thought" I found a good story....
Message-ID: <e98d88090808250504q48641f2ev1c5e70d295f616b5@mail.gmail.com>

BUT NO!!!

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/08/dayintech_0825

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Aug 25 06:41:51 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:41:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for Roger Heil
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A86@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Anybody have a phone number or email (or city of residence even) for
Roger Heil?

Thanks.

JohnD

From pdx.pete at verizon.net  Mon Aug 25 06:51:35 2008
From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:51:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A Update
References: <963051.32486.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0815EA4658EE44B5AE3447687B9FB8BB@DBKF4T81>

Sorry for the delay in keeping everyone up-to-date but I've been dealing 
with stuff of my own.

Paul is getting "prepped" to go through the second phase of treatment. For a 
short period of time between phases 1 and 2 he was in pretty decent shape, 
relatively speaking. This second phase is not going to be quite so "toxic". 
For a while there he was being given some pretty nasty chemo drugs via IV, 
and you could tell by talking to him that they wiped him out. The good news 
is that this got the number of cancerous cells down to very low levels.

As a side note, he's also about 3 inches shorter than he used to be because 
of a loss in bone density.

The first part of of the second phase consisted of some serious dental work, 
which led to the acquitision of a whole bunch of store-bought teeth. 
Periodontal / gum disease can can invlove significant amounts of bacteria 
and since they were eventually going to suppress his immune system it was 
necessary to take a serious look at his teeth. Right now they are trying to 
"harvest" stem cells for future use. If I have the details right, he's got 
three shunts into the subclavian vein under the collar bone; these shunts 
apparently end up in one of the upper chambers of his heart. Apparently, it 
takes a while to gather enough cells so it might b e a few weeks before that 
part is done. After that, the plan is to totally wipe out his immune system, 
re-introduce the stem cells and let them re-establish normal bone marrow 
function. The bad news is that once the stem cells are re-introduced, he 
might have to spend up to three and a half weeks in "semi-isolation" in the 
hospital for fear of infection. Apparently, they're looking at a Christmas 
target date for the completion of all the treatments, follow-up, etc.

There was a little scare last week that led to an ER trip and a brief 
hospitalization, but he called Sunday and said he was on his way back to his 
GF's.

And that is about all I know. The proceeds from the LOTO donation (thanks 
agaion, folks) went a long way to help with the expenses associated with the 
dental work. Other than that, I'm not sure what the financial picture looks 
like ... I will do some nosing around. 

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug 25 07:44:05 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:44:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
Message-ID: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hey Ron,

Why do you favor the earlier downflow rads as opposed to the crossflow version?  I am getting ready to drop a 1275 in my MK II Sprite and need to pick which radiator to use.  I have one of each type and the suitable hoses to hook up.

Thanks for any insight that you can offer.

Mike Carpenter

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gooseneck
>
>"Gooseneck" meaning thermostat cover? You just need an earlier one that points the other way. All of mine are in use at the moment, but I'm sure there's one out there (I'm a big fan of the earlier radiator). 
>
>Ron 
>
>--- On Sun, 8/24/08, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:
>
>> From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 8:25 PM
>> Hi All,
>> I've put a 1275 from a 74 into a Bugeye using the
>> original type Bugeye
>> radiator.  The gooseneck outlet on the 1275 goes toward the
>> driver side. 
>> The radiator needs a gooseneck that exits on the passsenger
>> side. Is there
>>  a gooseneck that faces the other direction?  I can't
>> just turn it around
>> because of the bolt pattern.
>> Any suggestions? Thanks/
>> Dick B. in NH
>> _______________________________________________


________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 08:05:26 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:05:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Needed for Father Jack's Holy Sprite...
In-Reply-To: <963051.32486.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e0808250059s51d605a1j2816f03815cd8a4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<963051.32486.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808250705g5050c8a1xa2b95f29dfebe6e5@mail.gmail.com>

You mean a 20 year old porn star on VHS, right?

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Aug 25 08:45:50 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:45:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones  passed away
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080825094156.03f6e0b8@mailbag.com>

Sad news to all of us in the LBC community.

Eric passed away Sunday shortly after his Riverside Motors' annual 
End of Summer Party. He had been battling Mesothelioma.

He will be missed by all that knew him.


Press on, regardless, Eric. 

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Aug 25 10:20:03 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:20:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <48AEFE74.1080003@b2systems.com>
References: <BAY112-F3992349FF919B53EABB75DB86A0@phx.gbl>
	<48AEFE74.1080003@b2systems.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921A91@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I like to forget to drain the gearbox oil. It's not as confounding as a
ground strap pulling the car with the motor up toward your engine lift.
But it still meets the need to do at least one really stupid thing every
time I work on the car.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Rambour [mailto:mikey at b2systems.com]
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 1:59 PM
To: Spridgeteers
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor removal

Is it the same thing as when you leave the snaked through various parts
of the chassis and body so at to make it nearly impossible to replace
$185 speedo cable attached to the gearbox ?

It was many years ago and I am still upset so I know what happens
also.  It was not a Sprite that is why the cable was so expensive but I
bet its the same as a Sprite ground strap minus some choice words of
course because Spridget owners never cuss themselves out for doing
something stupid.

Mike (learned a lesson that day)

Robert Duquette wrote:
> Exactly ... but leave the ground strap connected and what happens?  :)
> ( I know the answer, btw. )
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "K. Valentine" <kevin at valentinephoto.net>
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:
>
>> With my memory being what it isn't, part of finessing is checking
>> frequently
>> to see what's still connected, before lifting the car ...
>>
>
>
>
> There's your problem.........
>
>
> You should be lifting the engine ;}
>
> Kevin V.
>
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mike Rambour
Bug Writer err...Programmer
       mikey at b2systems.com
****************************************************************
If you want to learn more about the ULTIMATE BRITISH sports car,
then take a look at   http://www.singercars.com/
or the ULTIMATE ALMOST a Ferrari http://www.dinospider.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 25 10:25:50 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:25:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <21DCA400-504C-4680-AF9A-BACFC757CB16@mac.com>

A few years back someone on the list who does thermal dynamics (or  
something closs to that) did an analysis of a stock vertical vs a  
stock horizontal and there is no difference.  The reason for going to  
the cross flow was to lower the bonnet line was the claim.  You can  
get Al radiators and ones with more tubes.  My poor memory is that  
there were mixed results with these changes.

I still use the stock vertical radiator with the 1275 for what ever  
that is worth.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 25, 2008, at 6:44 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote:

> Hey Ron,
>
> Why do you favor the earlier downflow rads as opposed to the  
> crossflow version?  I am getting ready to drop a 1275 in my MK II  
> Sprite and need to pick which radiator to use.  I have one of each  
> type and the suitable hoses to hook up.
>
> Thanks for any insight that you can offer.
>
> Mike Carpenter

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Mon Aug 25 11:00:52 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:00:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] home from vacation, aaarrrggghhh!
Message-ID: <D15FCF3316F943BFB3E87288F2076641@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

For the first year in many, I didn't take Bugsy up to the lake for vacation.
I'm still too burned out from the MO drive.

It was good to hear of the arrival of the Holy Spirite and nice to hear that
California metal impresses the rust-belters.  We are spoiled in this state as
all of my English cars have come to me with no serious rust issues.  Crash
damage, yes, rust, no.

Now its full speed ahead on the Morris pickup.  I doubt I'll go as fast as the
planned OSHIT restoration of the Sprite, but I'll try.

Glen  Byrns

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 11:11:13 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:11:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <21DCA400-504C-4680-AF9A-BACFC757CB16@mac.com>
References: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<21DCA400-504C-4680-AF9A-BACFC757CB16@mac.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808251011y2ae3f66bm9c7636d8452fcb42@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

The reason for going to the cross flow was to lower the bonnet line was the
claim.  --
Probably not... The bonnet line is the same on the later cars. The crossflow
came about with the pollution cars. The air recirculation pump hangs off the
T-stat housing and won't fit with a T-stat housing that points to the
passenger side as the 67 and earlier cars did. There were other changes at
the same time too. They went to the plastic fan, alternator, collapsing
steering column, headrests, padded dash, Rostyle wheels, thinner
bumpers, etc., in a general update along with federally mandated safety and
pollution measures.


--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 11:15:04 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:15:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones passed away
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080825094156.03f6e0b8@mailbag.com>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080825094156.03f6e0b8@mailbag.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808251015v446b3ff7l887ba0ac66076235@mail.gmail.com>

Eric who did my A-arms?
Sad, indeed.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 11:18:38 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:18:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <1425224800.20080824210200@pacifier.com>
References: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>
	<1425224800.20080824210200@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48B2E96E.6040604@gmail.com>

And western Washington, no salt, big ass desert.

-g


Bill L wrote:
> Hello Frank,
>
>      You're used to working on cars where they salt the roads!
>      Somewhere around Minnesota they stop doing that crap. Its nothing
>      to see a twenty or thirty year old car still on the road out here
>      that has never had any significant work done to it other than
>      things like shocks, brakes and standard tune ups... While i was
>      living in N.Y. State it was an occasion to see anything more than
>      5 years old without rust holes, UNLESS it was kept garaged during
>      the winter... That said, California and Arizona cars ARE
>      particularly well preserved, as surprisingly are vehicles in
>      IDAHO! 

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Aug 25 11:23:36 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 10:23:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <48B2E96E.6040604@gmail.com>
References: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>,
	<1425224800.20080824210200@pacifier.com>, <48B2E96E.6040604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B28828.25995.84B60F@dmg.bossig.com>

Didn't you mean Eastern Washingtn??
The"west side" is wet and windt Seattle!!

On 25 Aug 2008 at 10:18, William M. Gilroy wrote:
>> And western Washington, no salt, big ass desert.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, Eastern WA....

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 11:30:57 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808251030o50af7e2ay29b38b883481220@mail.gmail.com>

I talked with Frank and Kevin on the phone last night and this talk about
radiators reminded me that Frank still needs a good radiator for the Holy
Sprite....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Hey Ron,
>
> Why do you favor the earlier downflow rads as opposed to the crossflow
> version?  I am getting ready to drop a 1275 in my MK II Sprite and need to
> pick which radiator to use.  I have one of each type and the suitable hoses
> to hook up.
>
> Thanks for any insight that you can offer.
>
> Mike Carpenter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Aug 24, 2008 9:37 PM
> >To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gooseneck
> >
> >"Gooseneck" meaning thermostat cover? You just need an earlier one that
> points the other way. All of mine are in use at the moment, but I'm sure
> there's one out there (I'm a big fan of the earlier radiator).
> >
> >Ron
> >
> >--- On Sun, 8/24/08, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
> >> Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
> >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> >> Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 8:25 PM
> >> Hi All,
> >> I've put a 1275 from a 74 into a Bugeye using the
> >> original type Bugeye
> >> radiator.  The gooseneck outlet on the 1275 goes toward the
> >> driver side.
> >> The radiator needs a gooseneck that exits on the passsenger
> >> side. Is there
> >>  a gooseneck that faces the other direction?  I can't
> >> just turn it around
> >> because of the bolt pattern.
> >> Any suggestions? Thanks/
> >> Dick B. in NH
> >> _______________________________________________
>
>
> ________________________________________
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Aug 25 11:32:51 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:32:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808251030o50af7e2ay29b38b883481220@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<43840a7e0808251030o50af7e2ay29b38b883481220@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fa01c906d8$9b222aa0$d1667fe0$@com>

I have it for him.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jim Johnson
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:31 PM
To: Mike/Donna Carpenter
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gooseneck

I talked with Frank and Kevin on the phone last night and this talk about
radiators reminded me that Frank still needs a good radiator for the Holy
Sprite....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Hey Ron,
>
> Why do you favor the earlier downflow rads as opposed to the crossflow
> version?  I am getting ready to drop a 1275 in my MK II Sprite and need to
> pick which radiator to use.  I have one of each type and the suitable
hoses
> to hook up.
>
> Thanks for any insight that you can offer.
>
> Mike Carpenter
5 AM

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 11:39:58 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:39:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <00fa01c906d8$9b222aa0$d1667fe0$@com>
References: <9511542.1219671845110.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<43840a7e0808251030o50af7e2ay29b38b883481220@mail.gmail.com>
	<00fa01c906d8$9b222aa0$d1667fe0$@com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808251039m9a6be28ma94cba39015c37ac@mail.gmail.com>

Many thanks, Flounder!!  You just knocked a couple of eons off your time in
purgatory  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson <
wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:

> I have it for him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Jim Johnson
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:31 PM
> To: Mike/Donna Carpenter
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gooseneck
>
> I talked with Frank and Kevin on the phone last night and this talk about
> radiators reminded me that Frank still needs a good radiator for the Holy
> Sprite....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Mike/Donna Carpenter <
> mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Ron,
> >
> > Why do you favor the earlier downflow rads as opposed to the crossflow
> > version?  I am getting ready to drop a 1275 in my MK II Sprite and need
> to
> > pick which radiator to use.  I have one of each type and the suitable
> hoses
> > to hook up.
> >
> > Thanks for any insight that you can offer.
> >
> > Mike Carpenter
> 5 AM

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Mon Aug 25 12:11:41 2008
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:11:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its own
 (and hello)
Message-ID: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about holy
sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.

I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so far
this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite the
right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and am
in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
question that I don't even know where to start with.

The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
(well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst zooming
down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's a
reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can equate
it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the nose
of my car a shove to the right.

Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering to
see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they appear
to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't see
where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one of
the arms?

Any help much appreciated,

Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Aug 25 12:21:46 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:21:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <F3AD464A1CE747928BF8B7411AC3C62A@spider>

The cheapest thing would be to find a Spridget group member in your area;
anyone live in the Seattle area?  ...bill
=======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Chris Rae
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 11:12 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its own
(and hello)

First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about holy
sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.

I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so
far
this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite the
right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and am
in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
question that I don't even know where to start with.

The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
(well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst
zooming
down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's a
reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can
equate
it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the
nose
of my car a shove to the right.

Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering
to
see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they
appear
to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't
see
where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one
of
the arms?

Any help much appreciated,
Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)
_______________________________________________

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 12:45:23 2008
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:45:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <531383560808251145t7c3813cm205f69df09184bc1@mail.gmail.com>

The magic box at the top of the suspension is indeed the shock absorber.

 I would be hesitant to drive it much until you know what is going on in
your loose suspension.

Get a manual on ebay and moss motors or Victoria British catalog.  They
catalogs both have good exploded views of the suspension.

Also, check out this page http://www.jhorton3.net/suspension.html to get an
idea of what is going on up front.
Oh, and do what corvallis (bill?) suggested.

Brian

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com> wrote:

> First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about
> holy
> sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.
>
> I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
> I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so
> far
> this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite
> the
> right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and
> am
> in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
> question that I don't even know where to start with.
>
> The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
> (well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst
> zooming
> down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's
> a
> reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
> problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
> connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can
> equate
> it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the
> nose
> of my car a shove to the right.
>
> Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering
> to
> see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they
> appear
> to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't
> see
> where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one
> of
> the arms?
>
> Any help much appreciated,
>
> Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug 25 13:08:59 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:08:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jackie Chan's Spridget
Message-ID: <AE6809513D334519A6A63C03E8B1D1FD@NilesAD.von.gov>

I just (finally!) got around to watching the movie Supercop (also known as 
Police Story 3) by Jackie Chan last night. Delightful role for the red 
Spridget, as it got to look nimble and quick in traffic. Not on the screen 
for very long, but still fun to see.
David Lieb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 13:30:22 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:30:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I "thought" I found a good story....
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808250504q48641f2ev1c5e70d295f616b5@mail.gmail.com>
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Really quiet at work today Brad?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> BUT NO!!!
>
> http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/08/dayintech_0825
>
> -

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 13:32:05 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:32:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I "thought" I found a good story....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808251230i36c2b03ewabd12898c045ee0@mail.gmail.com>
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Actually, in Gmail, you get these headlines that pop up. I saw this one, and
thought of the group....

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Really quiet at work today Brad?   ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > BUT NO!!!
> >
> > http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/08/dayintech_0825
> >
> > -
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 13:46:28 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jackie Chan's Spridget
In-Reply-To: <AE6809513D334519A6A63C03E8B1D1FD@NilesAD.von.gov>
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MG scene starts about 7:29 of this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrYiXGQEyOY&feature=related
It ends in the beginning of clip 8.
You may notice the windshield breaks, and then is back in the scene.
I didn't notice too much.  I was too busy watching Michelle Yeoh, ooh la la.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Aug 25 15:19:20 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:19:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs
Message-ID: <20080825.151920.5214.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

OK Spridgeteers, Here's another conundrum I've run into. The pistons on the
H1s don't lift more than halfway. If I remove the return spring inside the
top, the piston lifts fine to the top and drops as normally expected. It
appears that the spring above the piston has too great of a solid length, I
checked that they are sitting appropriately into their recesses when I
reassembled the top. Is the solid height on the HS2 carb greater than the H1s,
and could that be how this happened? (someone thought there was no difference
when there was).I had H1s on my '59 Volvo and don't remember the springs above
the piston (however there are other things from that era that I don't remember
either).
I was planning on putting a pair of HS2s on it anyway, but it's be nice to
know.
TIA,


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug 25 15:24:21 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:24:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
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Chris

I like that calling the shocks "magic boxes" That is the perfect term 
for those things.
And they will mess up your front end and make the car bounce all over 
the place if they (or 1) is bad.
Do the bounce test, push down on both front fenders at the same time, 
the car should be hard to move but it should still go down and snap 
right back with no more movement. If one side bounces or if both side 
bounce, it's shock time.
Peter C on this list is the man for quality rebuilt shocks.  Peter 
Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
And if you put new shocks on, please get the upper trunion bushings 
(shock arm knuckle) along with the shocks.
I bet it makes a world of difference.
As for over heating, most of these engines have a build up inside of 
them. there is a block drain at the back side of the engine under the 
carbs/exhaust manifold.Some engines had a brass tap, just turn the tap 
and water should come out.
Later engines replaced the brass tap with a plug, I think it's a 5/8 
wrench that fits it. Remove that plug and water should come out.
Usually it is blocked with 30-50 years of sludge. Run a stiff wire in 
the hole to loosen the sludge, remove the thermostat cover and flush it 
out with water. Clean water should come out of the block drain under the 
carbs.
If you have the tap, unscrew it as it will surely be plugged up inside.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Mon Aug 25 15:31:47 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:31:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs
References: <20080825.151920.5214.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <173551C05C9A4C52B43E37288D998768@NilesAD.von.gov>

Mark,
The only Bugeye H1 carbs I have messed with had NO springs in the dashpots. 
There were washer-like weights that performed the function instead. I would 
bet that some DPO added springs to yours.
David Lieb
1972 1960 1974 1973


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 16:19
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs


> OK Spridgeteers, Here's another conundrum I've run into. The pistons on 
> the
> H1s don't lift more than halfway. If I remove the return spring inside the
> top, the piston lifts fine to the top and drops as normally expected. It
> appears that the spring above the piston has too great of a solid length, 
> I
> checked that they are sitting appropriately into their recesses when I
> reassembled the top. Is the solid height on the HS2 carb greater than the 
> H1s,
> and could that be how this happened? (someone thought there was no 
> difference
> when there was).I had H1s on my '59 Volvo and don't remember the springs 
> above
> the piston (however there are other things from that era that I don't 
> remember
> either).
> I was planning on putting a pair of HS2s on it anyway, but it's be nice to
> know.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Mon Aug 25 15:42:29 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:42:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs
References: <20080825.151920.5214.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
	<173551C05C9A4C52B43E37288D998768@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <D2483F3DEE6343A4BF7D22EEF167DCC5@personal>

No springs in H1s

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>; "Spridget List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] H1 return springs


> Mark,
> The only Bugeye H1 carbs I have messed with had NO springs in the 
> dashpots.
> There were washer-like weights that performed the function instead. I 
> would
> bet that some DPO added springs to yours.
> David Lieb
> 1972 1960 1974 1973
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 16:19
> Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs
>
>
>> OK Spridgeteers, Here's another conundrum I've run into. The pistons on
>> the
>> H1s don't lift more than halfway. If I remove the return spring inside 
>> the
>> top, the piston lifts fine to the top and drops as normally expected. It
>> appears that the spring above the piston has too great of a solid length,
>> I
>> checked that they are sitting appropriately into their recesses when I
>> reassembled the top. Is the solid height on the HS2 carb greater than the
>> H1s,
>> and could that be how this happened? (someone thought there was no
>> difference
>> when there was).I had H1s on my '59 Volvo and don't remember the springs
>> above
>> the piston (however there are other things from that era that I don't
>> remember
>> either).
>> I was planning on putting a pair of HS2s on it anyway, but it's be nice 
>> to
>> know.
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Mon Aug 25 15:51:06 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:51:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones  passed away
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A real loss for the hobby.
I had the pleasure of writing an article for the late Britsh Car
Magazine about Eric and his re-creation of a Works MGB rally car a
number of years ago. Later I had a chance to navigate for him on a
couple of SCCA rallies in vintage class. He would often beat the current
"computer cars" using only his Halda instruments and his skill. I last
saw him at the MG Vintage Racers focus event last fall at Mid-Ohio when
he spent a day crewing for me. He told me then he probably would not be
back "next year."

Drive on in peace, friend.


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:46 AM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones passed away

Sad news to all of us in the LBC community.

Eric passed away Sunday shortly after his Riverside Motors' annual
End of Summer Party. He had been battling Mesothelioma.

He will be missed by all that knew him.


Press on, regardless, Eric.

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 25 16:37:15 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:37:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
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My mistake, did not mean the Spridgets but on other types of cars.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:11 AM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com>  
> wrote:
>
> The reason for going to the cross flow was to lower the bonnet line  
> was the
> claim.  --
> Probably not... The bonnet line is the same on the later cars. The  
> crossflow
> came about with the pollution cars. The air recirculation pump  
> hangs off the
> T-stat housing and won't fit with a T-stat housing that points to the
> passenger side as the 67 and earlier cars did. There were other  
> changes at
> the same time too. They went to the plastic fan, alternator,  
> collapsing
> steering column, headrests, padded dash, Rostyle wheels, thinner
> bumpers, etc., in a general update along with federally mandated  
> safety and
> pollution measures.
>
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Aug 25 16:42:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:42:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
In-Reply-To: <21DCA400-504C-4680-AF9A-BACFC757CB16@mac.com>
Message-ID: <C4D88383.193AE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> the cross flow was to lower the bonnet line was the claim.
So that's why the '68 bonnet is so much lower than the '67?

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Aug 25 16:43:12 2008
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:43:12 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] H1 return springs
Message-ID: <20080825.164312.24560.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

Thanks David, Jack and Kate for responding and reinforcing what I barely
remembered. I didn't think that I remembered springs in the H1s- Now THAT'S an
easy fix!
And yes, Kate the dashpot oil is up to snuff.
Thanks all!


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Aug 25 16:54:26 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:54:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <C4D88632.193B0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one of
> the arms?
Yes, and you need to send all four magic boxes to Peter for rebuilding, but
before you do that, see if all of the levers move up and down. I once had a
Renault that would jump sideways due to a broken shock. It's possible that a
shock could cause that same symptom on a real car. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug 25 16:57:07 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:57:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
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Hello Chris,

     Two things to look at. Jack up the front end. Either one side at
     a time or with a jack under the front cross member, then try to
     wiggle the tires top to bottom, and side to side. if they feel
     "loose" or clank, then its front end rebuild time. .. get Bill
     Gilroy (who is also in Seattle and on the list) to come have a
     look if you're unsure...(did you get that Bill?) or Bill M. also
     a lister, in Renton who definetely knows his stuff...)

     the other thing to check is counter intuitive.. tighten up the
     U-bolts holding the REAR axle to the springs. It could be that a
     loose REAR end is what's causing the front end to dart at
     seemingly random times, as IT hits road irregularities.....

     I'm down in Kelso if one of those guys can't make it, but i'm
     relatively sure they can as they are both straight-up helpful
     types... 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  He who laughs last probably didn't understand the joke. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Aug 25 16:58:40 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:58:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
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Message-ID: <199268373.20080825155840@pacifier.com>

Hello Chris,

     Seems that your term.... magic box is going to stick with list
     members...

     !

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Don't sweat it - binary is only ones and zeros.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 25 17:32:54 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:32:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] gooseneck
Message-ID: <352058.30672.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:
> A few years back someone on the list who does thermal
> dynamics (or  
> something closs to that) did an analysis of a stock
> vertical vs a  
> stock horizontal and there is no difference

Good memory, Bob! In my experience, even with high HP motors, the downflow is fine. I haven't dissected one (yet) but I suspect the downflow has very good flow distribution on the liquid side. Here's the original post. I had just gotten back from a class with a guy who was a major contributor to Kays and London's "Compact Heat Exchangers" book, which is the aerospace and automotive heat exchanger bible. There are other posts in the archives with more theory - let me know if you want them.

-----------
Just got back from a 2 day conference/class on
automotive heat exchangers given by the SAE, with a
fellow named Ram Shah as the instructor (if you're a
Mech E, you have probably used one of his 25 books in
school, and he works at Harrison, which does many many
of the radiators, condensers, evaps, oil coolers for
all cars).  After 2 days of mind numbing equations, we
got down to some folksy questions, and the topic
ofvertical vs. horizontal flow came up,as did "sucking
vs. blowing" for cooling fans.  All things being equal
(core size, and available airflow), there is no
difference.  The reason a lot of manufacturers went to
horizontal was because of the reduction in vehicle
frontal height in modern cars, which require lower
profile radiators.  Also, if the manufacturer wants to
increase the size of the core, a horizontal flow HX
allows for the same headers and collectors, the only
difference being longer tubes (or plates).  In a
downflow radiator, it is unlikely that the height
could be increased, so more columns of tubes would be
required, increasing manufacturing cost.  In the auto
industry, Shah said they start to worry if cost goes
up for something by more than 3 or 4 cents. 

For fan position, it is better to have the fan behind
the radiator ("sucking"), with an inlet shroud
(important).  If the fan is in front of the heat
exchanger, the flow pattern across the HX surface will
be less uniform, with the velocity pressure
concentration at the fan blade tip.  Additionally, the
flow will be turbulent, (fan on or off) making the
pressure drop across the HX higher than for laminar
flow and reducing total flow (for those who care,
pressure drop increases with the square of velocity
for turbulent flow, and varies nearly linearly for
laminar flow).  With the fan behind the HX, the flow
is more laminar into the HX, and the flow field is
more uniform, giving much better air distribution
across the face of the HX.  With the fan behind the
HX, an inlet shroud is important, or the fan will draw
air in locally, and not from the front of the heat
exchanger.

Still awake? 
Ron

From dmg at bossig.com  Mon Aug 25 17:46:10 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:46:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Downflow vs X-flow (was gooseneck)
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Great explanation... even I understood it... and I'm senile (or so my 
daughter says!!)

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From richb at u.washington.edu  Mon Aug 25 17:53:50 2008
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:53:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
Message-ID: <12D666E2EFEB4F8E99A6B9664873D82E@psych.washington.edu>

Hey Chris

I'm probably not your first choice for help on these as I have not yet had the
pleasure of working on the suspension on our Midget, but I am just north of
you in Everett.  If no one else with greater knowledge is available let me
know.  I'm sure we can at least do a little more troubleshooting and narrow
things down a bit.  Then back to the list for more insight.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------
First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about holy
sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.

I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so far
this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite the
right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and am
in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
question that I don't even know where to start with.

The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
(well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst zooming
down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's a
reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can equate
it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the
nose
of my car a shove to the right.

Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering to
see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they appear
to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't
see
where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one
of
the arms?

Any help much appreciated,

Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Aug 25 18:08:19 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:08:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite parts list
Message-ID: <48B34973.3040600@comcast.net>

I had some time tonight to try and figure out just what parts some of 
you may have that the Holy Sprite could use.
This is a used part wish list, not a new part wish list.
New parts that have to be new are brakes, bushings, misc rubber, and 
stuff like that.
So for any good used parts you might want to get rid of, and look at the 
bright side, this frees up room so you can go get more parts you may 
never need ;)

Decent stock muffler (it's a priest remember) No cherry bombs please.
undented rear bumperettes, powder coat-able or nice shiny ones.
Rear bumper irons, I do have the smaller loops but not the under side 
brackets.
Gas tank any model Spridget  tank will work.doesn't have to be Bugeye.
Windshield, at least the glass or a good used one. (2 stud)
Blower motor housing, the motor is great, the housing is gone. (I have 
one that is cracked and will work)
2 semi nice hubcaps, we have 2 already and a bunch of curbed ones.
A couple of bugeye wheels the ones with the holes. I found out one of 
mine was bent when we were changing out George's bent rims yesterday. I 
have (hopefully) 2 good ones and 1 bent one. I have to check my storage 
coop to see if I have any more.
Bonnet hinges, I do have a pair but they are bent as I found out when I 
did my 58. (58 thru 67 hinges, not the scissors)
Door latch strikers, the B post cones, Now you know why the doors were 
taped shut in the pictures.
Lamps, not headlamps, but everything else, tail, turn, front & back. At 
least the beehive lenses red/clear

Good news on the new parts list, the Holy Sprite has rebuilt A arms with 
brand new king pins and wheel bearings.
That just saved a couple hundred bucks!
I believe the brake rotors were new in 1978 and I will see if they can 
be cut at the machine shop.
The Holy Sprite has a new front end, even the coil springs are new but 
they are for a 1500.
This car has ZERO miles on the front end rebuild, just 30 years sitting 
somewhere.
I also think I am going to have the bonnet media blasted as it has some 
surface rust on the underside.
Remember, surface rust in NJ turns to blisters and swiss cheese in a 
year around here. And Fr Jack lives 2 houses from the Atlantic! 
Electrical outlets rust over there. So do aluminum storm doors and 
gutters. They turn to white powder.
So I'll get it blasted and epoxy prime the underside just to play it 
safe. It's just too hard to clean out all those nooks and crannys under 
the bonnet.
That's it for now, I'm sure I missed a few things but that's a start.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Mon Aug 25 18:12:29 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:12:29 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <c6e.2924a3e2.35e4a46d@aol.com>

I am about to have a pair of rear lowering wedges fabricated  for my  Bugeye. 
Based on what I have been discussing with someone on SpriteSpot, I  have a 
formula for the thick and thin end of the wedge, based upon a length  of 
approximately 3.3". My question however is, does anyone really know what  the exact 
length needs to be? Before I authorize the machine shop to start  working on my 
wedges, I need to know how long they should be. This length will  also effect 
the required height of the wedge and both ends, in order to get the  amount 
of drop I'm looking for.

Does anyone reading this know what length  I should make the wedges? I want 
the leaf spring to get full purchase on the  spring seat, so I want the wedge 
to go into the receiver end as far as possible,  while ending in line with the 
end of the spring perch. My car is still fully  assembled and I can not tell 
how deep the spring reaches into the mounting area.  If anyone happens to know, 
or if you happen to have a set of 1/4 elliptics handy  that may show some 
markings, or if you have a Bugeye with the springs removed, I  would appreciate 
knowing the depth of the receiver in which the 1/4 elliptic  leaf springs reach.

Thank you all.



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Aug 25 18:20:12 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:20:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones  passed away
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921AA3@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <228948.80786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:
> A real loss for the hobby.

Amen to that. Eric was a true craftsman and a real gentleman. John, I'd speak to Eric 4 or 5 times a year, and he'd invariably mention how much he enjoyed rallying with you. Aside from the usual dealings and seeing Eric at the DuPage show each year, I had the pleasure of going to his beautiful farmlet a few years back, and don't think I'll ever forget all the amazing stuff in the barns. 

I don't think it ever was mentioned on this list, but last week we also lost Jack Drews, another of the LBC giants. If you check the team.net archives for the August 2008 FOT list, the stories of Jack could fill a book. Between Eric and Jack, there's some serious LBC engineering going on up there right about now.

Ron

From rilegp at charter.net  Mon Aug 25 19:36:15 2008
From: rilegp at charter.net (rilegp at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:36:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Midget Trans
Message-ID: <20080825213615.JLRWV.466137.root@fepweb16>

Does anyone in the So Cal area have a usable rib-case tranny 
available at a reasonable cost?  My wife has a '53 Triumph Mayflower that had been 
converted to a 1098 Midget engine and trans about 40 years ago.  The lay gear 
has gone south (shaft and/or bearings?). 

*my father-in-law Clay L sent out a similar request a couple of weeks ago & now 
I've registered w/spridget so I thought I had better repost.
        Thanks for your time,
                            GR

From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Aug 25 20:16:16 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:16:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Bugeye Lowering Question
In-Reply-To: <c6e.2924a3e2.35e4a46d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <421BA20FCE494E4ABD4FFDE81F28F57F@HERBYZ>

Since my MK II tub is on a rotisserie it was an easy measure. The pocket is
5 inches deep and the spring depth is about 4-1/2 inches. I measured all the
way out to the lower lip edge.

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

Does anyone reading this know what length  I should make the wedges? I want 
the leaf spring to get full purchase on the  spring seat, so I want the
wedge 
to go into the receiver end as far as possible,  while ending in line with
the 
end of the spring perch. My car is still fully  assembled and I can not tell

how deep the spring reaches into the mounting area.  If anyone happens to
know, 
or if you happen to have a set of 1/4 elliptics handy  that may show some 
markings, or if you have a Bugeye with the springs removed, I  would
appreciate 
knowing the depth of the receiver in which the 1/4 elliptic  leaf springs
reach.

Thank you all.

From kevin at valentinephoto.net  Mon Aug 25 20:20:57 2008
From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:20:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite & Father Jack Pictures
Message-ID: <1FDF3B08-B650-464F-A068-5390767F3C52@valentinephoto.net>

Hey Everyone,

Rob is posting some of the photographs of the Holy Sprite at;

http://oshitblog.blogspot.com/

They have been posted on our Oshit website. (They may be downloaded)   
There are about 90 pictures so it may be 20 minutes or so until they  
are all on the site.

Photographs are in chronological order beginning with the Holy Sprite  
handoff at Harrisburg from Charley Braum.  They include photographs  
of the condition of the Holy Sprite (the "before" pictures) and  
pictures of Fr. Jack as he saw the car for the first time at the  
Oshit meeting at Frank's garage in Tom's River, NJ.

Just take a look at the expression on  Fr. Jack's face!!!

Pictures of the Oshit team disassembling the Holy Sprite are also  
included.

Let me know what you think ;)

Enjoy!!!

Kevin Valentine
Tuscarora, Pa

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Aug 25 20:34:36 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:34:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Differences
Message-ID: <A2C9094BFF25490A8574EA721FDB4A33@Dell9200>

Guys,

I have two rear wheel hubs that I have cleaned up for installation.  Both 
have the same part number (2A7088) but one has a thinner "flange" than the 
other.  All of the other dimensions are the same.  Question:  Is there any 
difference in application or is the thinner one really any weaker than the 
thick one?  Maybe I should put the thick one on the right side?  A picture 
of what I am seeing is at the following link: 
http://www.nashvilletn.org/Bugeye/hubs.jpg

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 20:38:16 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:38:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <48B36C98.4080009@gmail.com>

Chris,

Give me a call tomorrow I will be in work.  It is most likely bad front
shocks.  I have 4 cores you can send to Peter so you don't have to
remove yours and wait for them to be re-built.  I can take a look at the
car.

-g

Chris Rae wrote:
> First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about holy
> sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.
>
> I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
> I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so far
> this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite the
> right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and am
> in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
> question that I don't even know where to start with.
>
> The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
> (well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst zooming
> down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's a
> reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
> problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
> connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can equate
> it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the nose
> of my car a shove to the right.
>
> Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering to
> see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they appear
> to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't see
> where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one of
> the arms?
>
> Any help much appreciated,
>
> Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)
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From Grossac at aol.com  Mon Aug 25 20:38:58 2008
From: Grossac at aol.com (Grossac at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 22:38:58 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Bugeye Lowering Question
Message-ID: <c04.44769be3.35e4c6c2@aol.com>

Before you invest what could be a fair amount of money at the machine shop,  
check on the rear axle wedges available at Summit Racing, the drag race  
supplier.  (Summitracing.com)  They have a number of wedges available  in different 
sizes and degrees of wedge for about $10 per pair.  I've used  them to lower 
the rear on my Bugeye vintage racecar.  I took one pair of 2  degree wedges, 
cut them in half lengthwise, and stacked two to get 4 degrees  that lowered the 
rear about 1 3/4 inches.
 
Chris Gross
'60 Bugeye Vintage Racer



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deal here.      
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Aug 25 21:03:16 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:03:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
Message-ID: <00ac01c90728$495c93e0$6401a8c0@refisk>

For all of you guys with a Judson Supercharger gathering dust on a shelf in
your garage - one sold on eBay yesterday for $1701.  And it wasn't even a
complete setup.  It was missing the oiler, throttle cable mount, air
cleaner, and the support bracket.  Yowza!

http://tinyurl.com/5loab7

Rick

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Aug 25 21:12:47 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:12:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite & Father Jack Pictures
In-Reply-To: <1FDF3B08-B650-464F-A068-5390767F3C52@valentinephoto.net>
References: <1FDF3B08-B650-464F-A068-5390767F3C52@valentinephoto.net>
Message-ID: <962A347C-41D8-4A30-B69F-EAD26CA58131@phillymgclub.com>

Not to steal Kevin and Rob's thunder but I just added my shots to the  
web gallery http://gallery.me.com/lmacy#100149 That is a different  
addy than the first set. I have done nothing but upload them and they  
are downloadable.  If you click on the "My Gallery" link you can get  
back to the first set as well as a set of pic from MG 2008.

The pics of Father Jack are very telling.

BTW I am having some troubles with the first set. The pics David sent  
seem to want to be persistent and multiplicative. I have removed them  
and they keep coming back. Maybe it is related to Chicago Politics, ya  
know when the dead come back to vote ;-)

Larry

On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:20 PM, K. Valentine wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Rob is posting some of the photographs of the Holy Sprite at;
>
> http://oshitblog.blogspot.com/
>
> They have been posted on our Oshit website. (They may be downloaded)
> There are about 90 pictures so it may be 20 minutes or so until they
> are all on the site.
>
> Photographs are in chronological order beginning with the Holy Sprite
> handoff at Harrisburg from Charley Braum.  They include photographs
> of the condition of the Holy Sprite (the "before" pictures) and
> pictures of Fr. Jack as he saw the car for the first time at the
> Oshit meeting at Frank's garage in Tom's River, NJ.
>
> Just take a look at the expression on  Fr. Jack's face!!!
>
> Pictures of the Oshit team disassembling the Holy Sprite are also
> included.
>
> Let me know what you think ;)
>
> Enjoy!!!
>
> Kevin Valentine
> Tuscarora, Pa
> _______________________________________________
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>
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 25 21:52:15 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:52:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Midget Trans
In-Reply-To: <20080825213615.JLRWV.466137.root@fepweb16>
References: <20080825213615.JLRWV.466137.root@fepweb16>
Message-ID: <1A80D540-8539-453F-93C6-C059DC098E97@mac.com>

You might check VB or AH Spares for a lay shaft kit.  I got one from  
VB years ago, which included bearings and a few other parts at a  
reasonable price.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 25, 2008, at 6:36 PM, rilegp at charter.net wrote:

> Does anyone in the So Cal area have a usable rib-case tranny
> available at a reasonable cost?  My wife has a '53 Triumph  
> Mayflower that had been
> converted to a 1098 Midget engine and trans about 40 years ago.   
> The lay gear
> has gone south (shaft and/or bearings?).

From bkitterer at mac.com  Mon Aug 25 21:53:28 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:53:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 Midget Trans
In-Reply-To: <20080825213615.JLRWV.466137.root@fepweb16>
References: <20080825213615.JLRWV.466137.root@fepweb16>
Message-ID: <99B1AD06-69AE-4A56-9F84-55AE1E086322@mac.com>

Oops misread lay gear for lay shaft.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 25, 2008, at 6:36 PM, rilegp at charter.net wrote:

> Does anyone in the So Cal area have a usable rib-case tranny
> available at a reasonable cost?  My wife has a '53 Triumph  
> Mayflower that had been
> converted to a 1098 Midget engine and trans about 40 years ago.   
> The lay gear
> has gone south (shaft and/or bearings?).

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Aug 25 22:33:26 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:33:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite is here
In-Reply-To: <48B28828.25995.84B60F@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48B22BD8.2010406@comcast.net>,
	<1425224800.20080824210200@pacifier.com>, <48B2E96E.6040604@gmail.com>
	<48B28828.25995.84B60F@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48B38796.3020402@gmail.com>

   That is what I meant.  I am used to everything be east.
   Dave G. wrote:

Didn't you mean Eastern Washingtn??
The"west side" is wet and windt Seattle!!

On 25 Aug 2008 at 10:18, William M. Gilroy wrote:

And western Washington, no salt, big ass desert.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, Eastern WA....

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Mon Aug 25 23:03:22 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:03:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808221147r179f9d46n1098b1f191bb731f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>
	<5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>
	<43840a7e0808221147r179f9d46n1098b1f191bb731f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0808252203i70de11ecxf3fce5445d6c896d@mail.gmail.com>

Subject: My Spridget

Guys I just wanted to make this clear. My grandfather bought this car two
weeks ago on Ebay from Bud Pazur (member on here), He raced it twice. I
recieved the car last week, got a chance to take a quick glance, clean off
the rotors and pads of WD-40 and put the air filters on. My grandfather took
it to the track for the first time 5 days after recieving it. After one lap
the car stalled and wouldnt start back up. the coil popped out (no big
deal). re-attached and went back out, made 2.5 more laps and the engine
seized. Now, I have never worked on a spridget. My grandfather and I are
Jaguar guys (in fact we just raced in the 24 Hueres of Lemons race in
stafford springs, ct this past weekend!). So when I asked for the proceedure
on removal of the engine, I just wanted the fastest way to get it out
properly (races for the next 3 weekends). It isnt out yet, havent had a
chance. If the cylinder walls are damaged our bugeye is being bored out to a
1380cc and we will be using 12:1 pistons. I read in a magazine that a
conservative redline is 7500rpm and a race redline is 9000rpm. Im thinking
about using an 8000rpm msd chip.. any thoughts?

Matt

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Unless, of course, you are using the Gorilla method where you disconnect
> everything, then turn the car upside down and shake......    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:34 PM, K. Valentine <kevin at valentinephoto.net
> >wrote:
>
> >
> > There's your problem.........
> >
> >
> > You should be lifting the engine ;}
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 06:13:05 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808252203i70de11ecxf3fce5445d6c896d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <35600.32113.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Matt Hagopian <mhagopian at hoppetool.com> wrote:
> conservative redline is 7500rpm and a race redline is
> 9000rpm. Im thinking
> about using an 8000rpm msd chip.. any thoughts?

Matt,
I don't know the particulars of Bud's engine (for the uninitiated, every race car is known as the previous owner's car until you sell it; then it becomes known as yours). I raced with Bud and the previous owner Kris Larsen for a few years. That motor was always pretty bulletproof. My seat of the pants opinion is that the motor was way too tractable to be a 9000 RPM motor. It could be driven around the paddock relatively easily, and a race Sprite motor would have way too much cam for that. Aside from the power curve, I'm not pretending to know the true mechanical limits of the engine - what the crank can handle, when valves float, etc. If it were me, I'd start at 6500-7000 RPM and go from there after learning about how happy it is at that RPM. Obviously, if your guess at 8000 is wrong, it's an expensive and fun-ruining guess. I drove another racer's Spridget last week and was pretty close to his best times within a few laps, shifting 1000-1500 RPM less
 than he usually does. Your lap times in that car lie in the brakes and suspension.

Have fun with it,

Ron

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Aug 26 06:14:24 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:14:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Bugeye Lowering Question
In-Reply-To: <c6e.2924a3e2.35e4a46d@aol.com>
References: <c6e.2924a3e2.35e4a46d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48B3F3A0.9040100@lehigh.edu>

The wedges can't be inserted any further than the spring's front 
mounting bolts, so the length is less than you'd think. I am at work now 
but 3.3" is about right from memory. A bit longer is fine because it 
will just extend out of the spring box a little. The wedge angle is far 
more important than the thickness, just make them both the the same. The 
4 degree factory wedges were 11/32" thick.
John
Fogelsville, PA

Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:
> I am about to have a pair of rear lowering wedges fabricated  for my  Bugeye. 
> Based on what I have been discussing with someone on SpriteSpot, I  have a 
> formula for the thick and thin end of the wedge, based upon a length  of 
> approximately 3.3". My question however is, does anyone really know what  the exact 
> length needs to be? Before I authorize the machine shop to start  working on my 
> wedges, I need to know how long they should be. This length will  also effect 
> the required height of the wedge and both ends, in order to get the  amount 
> of drop I'm looking for.
>
> Does anyone reading this know what length  I should make the wedges? I want 
> the leaf spring to get full purchase on the  spring seat, so I want the wedge 
> to go into the receiver end as far as possible,  while ending in line with the 
> end of the spring perch. My car is still fully  assembled and I can not tell 
> how deep the spring reaches into the mounting area.  If anyone happens to know, 
> or if you happen to have a set of 1/4 elliptics handy  that may show some 
> markings, or if you have a Bugeye with the springs removed, I  would appreciate 
> knowing the depth of the receiver in which the 1/4 elliptic  leaf springs reach.
>
> Thank you all.

From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Aug 26 07:00:08 2008
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:00:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Downflow vs X-flow (was gooseneck)
Message-ID: <000e01c9077b$abe14990$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Thanks for posting that info, Ron.

I recently installed a high-capacity x-flow rad by Griffin Thermal Products
in my Turner to replace the (likely) original down-flow with which I had
experienced severe overheating during the Mt. Equinox hill climb a few years
back.  While it didn't overheat in normal racing, it was a weak link.  First
race with the new setup will be at Roebling Road in 11 days.  Today's
project is to re-install the engine after a clutch-install last night.

Off to work.

Norm Sippel
948-powered Turner Mk1

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Aug 26 07:13:27 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor removal
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808252203i70de11ecxf3fce5445d6c896d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY112-F39849B582BC9B40BC1A977B86A0@phx.gbl>
	<5EF8502E-EDA4-4E0B-AB8B-1086A502E310@valentinephoto.net>
	<43840a7e0808221147r179f9d46n1098b1f191bb731f@mail.gmail.com>
	<87a1f55d0808252203i70de11ecxf3fce5445d6c896d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B40177.60502@lehigh.edu>

   The  likely  redline  for a race 1275 is 7500 rpm, and conservative is
   7000  rpm.  You  can't rev these like the 948's I used to race at 8000
   rpm. There may be some guys running 1275's more than 7500 rpm, but you
   can  bet they are the ones with billet cranks, Carillo rods, and steel
   main caps.
   John
   Fogelsville, PA
   Matt Hagopian wrote:

Subject: My Spridget

Guys I just wanted to make this clear. My grandfather bought this car two
weeks ago on Ebay from Bud Pazur (member on here), He raced it twice. I
recieved the car last week, got a chance to take a quick glance, clean off
the rotors and pads of WD-40 and put the air filters on. My grandfather took
it to the track for the first time 5 days after recieving it. After one lap
the car stalled and wouldnt start back up. the coil popped out (no big
deal). re-attached and went back out, made 2.5 more laps and the engine
seized. Now, I have never worked on a spridget. My grandfather and I are
Jaguar guys (in fact we just raced in the 24 Hueres of Lemons race in
stafford springs, ct this past weekend!). So when I asked for the proceedure
on removal of the engine, I just wanted the fastest way to get it out
properly (races for the next 3 weekends). It isnt out yet, havent had a
chance. If the cylinder walls are damaged our bugeye is being bored out to a
1380cc and we will be using 12:1 pistons. I read in a magazine that a
conservative redline is 7500rpm and a race redline is 9000rpm. Im thinking
about using an 8000rpm msd chip.. any thoughts?

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Tue Aug 26 08:32:40 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:32:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Bugeye Lowering Question
In-Reply-To: <c04.44769be3.35e4c6c2@aol.com>
References: <c04.44769be3.35e4c6c2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <48B41408.7090006@lehigh.edu>

Chris,
I like Summit Racing for lots of items, but never thought to look there 
for wedges. Thanks for the tip.
John
Fogelsville, PA


Grossac at aol.com wrote:
> Before you invest what could be a fair amount of money at the machine shop,  
> check on the rear axle wedges available at Summit Racing, the drag race  
> supplier.  (Summitracing.com)  They have a number of wedges available  in different 
> sizes and degrees of wedge for about $10 per pair.  I've used  them to lower 
> the rear on my Bugeye vintage racecar.  I took one pair of 2  degree wedges, 
> cut them in half lengthwise, and stacked two to get 4 degrees  that lowered the 
> rear about 1 3/4 inches.
>  
> Chris Gross
> '60 Bugeye Vintage Racer

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Aug 26 09:35:50 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:35:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts
Message-ID: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>

Listers,
I seemed to have lost some of my bookmarks.  I'm looking for the web 
site that showed several "home-made" service remedies such as, bakelite 
polish and instrument "O"-rings.  There were others but my memory has 
gone the way of my lost bookmarks (ya, I know it's the 2nd thing to 
go).  If anyone has the address to this site I would appreciate it.  
Maybe it was just a dream caused by some of Brad's tequila.
TIA,
Dave
59 :{) leaf green

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 26 09:41:00 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:41:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts
References: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>
Message-ID: <5017C84FF65A40859D0D8C260144FA71@Larry>

Dave, I don't recall the site name, but it is owned by Barrie Robinson in 
Canada -- barrie at look.ca

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
To: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:35 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts


Listers,
I seemed to have lost some of my bookmarks.  I'm looking for the web
site that showed several "home-made" service remedies such as, bakelite
polish and instrument "O"-rings.  There were others but my memory has
gone the way of my lost bookmarks (ya, I know it's the 2nd thing to
go).  If anyone has the address to this site I would appreciate it.
Maybe it was just a dream caused by some of Brad's tequila.
TIA,
Dave
59 :{) leaf green
You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

http://www.team.net/archive

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From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug 26 09:58:41 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:58:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts
In-Reply-To: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>
References: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080826105817.03ddeac8@nosimport.com>

www.britcot.com

         Peter C
==
At 10:35 AM 8/26/2008, David Woerpel wrote:
>Listers,
>I seemed to have lost some of my bookmarks.  I'm looking for the web
>site that showed several "home-made" service remedies such as, bakelite
>polish and instrument "O"-rings.  There were others but my memory has
>gone the way of my lost bookmarks (ya, I know it's the 2nd thing to
>go).  If anyone has the address to this site I would appreciate it.
>Maybe it was just a dream caused by some of Brad's tequila.
>TIA,
>Dave
>59 :{) leaf green

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Aug 26 10:13:36 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:13:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080826105817.03ddeac8@nosimport.com>
References: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080826105817.03ddeac8@nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <48B42BB0.7080401@wi.net>

Peter wins an all expense paid trip to Hinsdale IL!  What a great list 
this is.  Thanks to all who responded.  Now all you all get back to 
work!  ;-)

Highest regards,
Dave
59 {)
Burlington WI

Peter C wrote:
> www.britcot.com

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Aug 26 10:30:32 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:30:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eric Jones  passed away
In-Reply-To: <228948.80786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921AA3@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
	<228948.80786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921AAE@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Ron:
I was waiting to go out for the Spridget 50th Anniversary race during
the Grattan weekend when Jack went off the end of the straight.  I
posted a notice to the list but don't know if it ever went through. I
never saw it. Flounder seems to have gotten the word out to a lot of
people though.
JohnD



-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:20 PM
To: Spridget List; Deikis, John G
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eric Jones passed away

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:
> A real loss for the hobby.

Amen to that. Eric was a true craftsman and a real gentleman. John, I'd
speak to Eric 4 or 5 times a year, and he'd invariably mention how much
he enjoyed rallying with you. Aside from the usual dealings and seeing
Eric at the DuPage show each year, I had the pleasure of going to his
beautiful farmlet a few years back, and don't think I'll ever forget all
the amazing stuff in the barns.

I don't think it ever was mentioned on this list, but last week we also
lost Jack Drews, another of the LBC giants. If you check the team.net
archives for the August 2008 FOT list, the stories of Jack could fill a
book. Between Eric and Jack, there's some serious LBC engineering going
on up there right about now.

Ron

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Tue Aug 26 11:03:28 2008
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:03:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204BC3B@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Hello again. This has to be the friendliest mailing list I've ever posted to.
I've so far had three offers of physical help, a phone call to talk about my
problems, fourteen (yes, fourteen) emails with advice and one offer of
marriage. Okay, I made the last one up.

Right now the car is stranded at a friend's house (due to rain and darkness,
both of which require a functioning electrical system). I'm away this weekend
for my brother's bachelor party (we're doing the Czech Wrecks 2008 rally) but
I'll be back onto car things the following week. It does seem like my easiest
next port of call is to try tightening up the U-bolts on the rear axle. That
sounds simple enough that even I could do it.

Many thanks again - it's very reassuring to know as I whack something with a
spanner that there's a Midget Army out there ready to save the day...

Chris

--
http://english2american.com

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+chris.rae=microsoft.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+chris.rae=microsoft.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Chris Rae
Sent: 25 August 2008 11:12
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its own (and
hello)

First off, hello - have been lurking here for a few weeks reading about holy
sprites, but I've now bolstered up courage to ask something.

I have recently become the proud owner of a '65 Sprite. I have no idea what
I'm doing. I've never lifted a finger to repair my own car before, and so far
this has been a genuinely interesting exercise in doing things not quite the
right way. I've managed to fix up a few obvious things that are wrong and am
in the process of stopping it from overheating (bah), but now I have a
question that I don't even know where to start with.

The car has a habit of rather violently leaping in some random direction
(well, actually, come to think of it it's always to the right) whilst zooming
down the freeway. Well, I say zooming, but it's probably about 50mph. It's a
reasonably unsettling manoeuvre - I am 100% sure that it's not a steering
problem and is some sort of issue with the way in which the wheels are
connected to the body, or with the suspension. The nearest thing I can equate
it to is that it feels much like a giant hand has come down and given the
nose
of my car a shove to the right.

Any ideas? I've done the moron diagnosis of waggling the tires and peering to
see if anything has fallen off, but there's nothing obvious. Also they appear
to have forgotten to put shocks on the car in the factory, because I can't
see
where they are?! Are they in the strange magic box that's at the top of one
of
the arms?

Any help much appreciated,

Chris (Seattle, WA right now, but formerly Edinburgh, UK)
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Aug 26 11:16:00 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:16:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204BC3B@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
	<50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204BC3B@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
Message-ID: <48B43A50.9000100@frontiernet.net>

I must be getting old.  Did I forget to mention that I am a widow when I 
recommended Peter C. for the magic boxes?   Unfortunately, I am at 
least  30+ years too old for you.

Kate
>  and one offer of
> marriage. Okay, I made the last one up.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug 26 11:41:15 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:41:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com><50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204BC3B@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
	<48B43A50.9000100@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <13425E1544334D7C96C96837962A1999@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its 
own (and hello)


I must be getting old.  Did I forget to mention that I am a widow when I
recommended Peter C. for the magic boxes?   Unfortunately, I am at
least  30+ years too old for you.

Kate
>  and one offer of
> marriage. Okay, I made the last one up.
_______________________________________________

A big enough dowry will take care of that.

LAD 

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug 26 11:48:42 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <48B43A50.9000100@frontiernet.net>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>,
	<50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204BC3B@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>,
	<48B43A50.9000100@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <48B3DF8A.369.B40CE5@dmg.bossig.com>

Age is just a number....
I just celebrated my 50th year of being 21 <G>
At least.... in my mind !!

On 26 Aug 2008 at 10:16, Kathryn Bales wrote:

>> Unfortunately, I am at 
>> least  30+ years too old for you.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Aug 26 11:58:42 2008
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:58:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Home built parts
In-Reply-To: <48B42BB0.7080401@wi.net>
References: <48B422D6.40205@wi.net>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20080826105817.03ddeac8@nosimport.com>
	<48B42BB0.7080401@wi.net>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080826125749.03ea3558@nosimport.com>

At 11:13 AM 8/26/2008, David Woerpel wrote:
>Peter wins an all expense paid trip to Hinsdale IL!

With a truckload of fertilizer and fuel oil, no doubt



>What a great list
>this is.  Thanks to all who responded.  Now all you all get back to
>work!  ;-)
>
>Highest regards,
>Dave
>59 {)
>Burlington WI
>
>Peter C wrote:
> > www.britcot.com

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Aug 26 12:42:26 2008
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:42:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas coils
Message-ID: <6t8mot$4hkp78@email.mtu.edu>

I have a Lucas LA12 coil in my Sprite. In a box of parts I purchased 
I have a Lucas coil marked 21949600 and below that - H1. The H1 coil 
is 2 1/4" in diameter and about the same length overall as the LA12. 
The ohms between small posts is 3.3.

Was the H1 coil a substitute for the LA12 or was it used in other - 
non-Spridget applications?



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 12:43:23 2008
From: breeanna1012000 at yahoo.com (Bree Anna)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:43:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC- Just thank you!!!
Message-ID: <98757.74046.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just wanted to make sure I "THANK all of YOU" who volunteered to help me on my trip out to Oregon in case of an emergency! All I can say is thanks for all that has offered.

You guys and gals are GREAT!!!! :)

Thanks again from the bottom of my heart. ;)


Bree!
East Texas

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Aug 26 14:32:04 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:32:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>

Digging through some old pictures and came up with one of me delivering
newspapers from my first vehicle!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/firstcar.jpg

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Aug 26 14:47:20 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:47:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8CAD5D411ACDBBD-6D0-D65@mblk-d37.sysops.aol.com>

I missed meeting you since I did not attend LoTO, but based on that picture, you must be considerably younger than I imagined.

Howard







-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>; Yahoo Spridget list <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; bugeye <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 4:32 pm
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....



Digging through some old pictures and came up with one of me delivering
newspapers from my first vehicle!

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/firstcar.jpg

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim
You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com

http://www.team.net/archive

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From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug 26 14:52:19 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:52:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B40A93.1171.15C2A9D@dmg.bossig.com>

I see you're still using a training wheel,,,,<G>

On 26 Aug 2008 at 15:32, Jim Johnson wrote:
>> Digging through some old pictures and came up with one of me
>> delivering newspapers from my first vehicle!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Aug 26 14:55:24 2008
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:55:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
In-Reply-To: <48B40A93.1171.15C2A9D@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
	<48B40A93.1171.15C2A9D@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <028501c907be$10143430$1801010a@xp>

I thought that was a wheelie bar.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Dave G.
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:52 PM
To: Spridgets; Yahoo Spridget list; bugeye
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....

I see you're still using a training wheel,,,,<G>

On 26 Aug 2008 at 15:32, Jim Johnson wrote:
>> Digging through some old pictures and came up with one of me 
>> delivering newspapers from my first vehicle!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Aug 26 16:58:47 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:58:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1803603347.20080826155847@pacifier.com>

Hello Jim,

     Not that you don't know it, but it looks like you may have gained
     a little weight since then..!


     LLLLLooooooLLLLLLLL

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  A single fact can spoil a good argument. 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Aug 26 19:00:44 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <546A45B003BD428CA6EE89911EE1E54A@blackbox2>

I'm looking at that little tiny wheel out the back and all I can figure is that the bike tended 
to raise the front wheel off the ground when you torqued hard on it.  It's a little wheely bar!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....


> Digging through some old pictures and came up with one of me delivering
> newspapers from my first vehicle!
> 
> http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/firstcar.jpg

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug 26 19:22:32 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] First Vehicle....
In-Reply-To: <546A45B003BD428CA6EE89911EE1E54A@blackbox2>
References: <43840a7e0808261332t1a60f5f5s1ed9c755d1bb8fc6@mail.gmail.com>,
	<546A45B003BD428CA6EE89911EE1E54A@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <48B449E8.18625.2538C44@dmg.bossig.com>

I think it's because you got on it from the rear... also notice the off-set front 
wheel...

Not to far away from my current trike..
<http://www.bicycleman.com/recumbents/trikes/sun/sun-recumbent-trikes.htm>
mine is the top one...

On 26 Aug 2008 at 21:00, Dean Hedin wrote:
>> I'm looking at that little tiny wheel out the back and all I can
>> figure is that the bike tended to raise the front wheel off the ground
>> when you torqued hard on it.  It's a little wheely bar!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Aug 26 19:46:30 2008
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:46:30 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] electrical fun Solution!!!
Message-ID: <082720080146.9154.48B4B1F6000D3ACB000023C22215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>

It turns out that my heater fan was the cause of all my problems.  It turns out that the fan was drawing to much current and blew the fans fuse that also shorted out my windshield wipers melted the fan switches contact wires and killed the radio.

thanks to the eastern Oshit knowledge trust that seems to be able to solve anything if given 30 seconds.

From ah53 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 20:59:20 2008
From: ah53 at yahoo.com (jomar healey)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
Message-ID: <188729.29664.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I found this link on the corvette forum and thought it would be of interest to those here. http://www.autoarch.com/thinkpinksprite.html

Joe

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Aug 26 22:18:29 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:18:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <188729.29664.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAECICOAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I found this link on the corvette forum and thought it would be of
interest to those here.>>

As well you should have, Joe !!

I (YES, I know<G>) assume that you would know of (my Dad's Dentist)
Dr. Dick Thompson??  'Vette Racer supreme!!!!

They both raced a LOT at Marlboro, MD (Michael O. and I are most likely the
only ones who remember that GREAT venue!?!?) !!!

VERY, VERY neat Lady!!!!  er, and QUICK!!!!

Ed

From dmg at bossig.com  Tue Aug 26 22:00:39 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:00:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <188729.29664.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <188729.29664.qm@web31502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48B46EF7.18863.2E45227@dmg.bossig.com>

Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master cylinders???

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 27 04:53:08 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:53:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
In-Reply-To: <00ac01c90728$495c93e0$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <441580.13441.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Why would you have one sitting on a shelf when you could donate it to a poor
fellow Spridgeteer (one on Long Island, for instance...) who would put it to
good use? To suggest that someone here would lower themselves to actualy
accepting money for a cherished Spridget part that could help out a fellow
enthusiast is truly unworthy of mentioning on this list.  My address is
available for anyone who needs to use it...  ;-)
 
David Booker
Long Island


--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Rick <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

From: Rick <refisk at chartermi.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:03 PM

For all of you guys with a Judson Supercharger gathering dust on a shelf in
your garage - one sold on eBay yesterday for $1701.  And it wasn't even a
complete setup.  It was missing the oiler, throttle cable mount, air
cleaner, and the support bracket.  Yowza!

http://tinyurl.com/5loab7

Rick
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 27 05:49:47 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <48B46EF7.18863.2E45227@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <209110.94365.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
> Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
> cylinders???

Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, clutch. This is my Tilton version:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/

Ron

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Aug 27 06:04:51 2008
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:04:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
References: <209110.94365.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015101c9083d$1c15ae60$6401a8c0@refisk>

Ron's 3 master setup is the "era correct" version, of course.  :-)

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car


> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> > Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
> > Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
> > cylinders???
>
> Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, clutch.
This is my Tilton version:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/
>
> Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Wed Aug 27 06:06:58 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:06:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
References: <209110.94365.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9541EC981E7248C19FFEFBD0F8D02B81@midget>

> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>> Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
>> Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
>> cylinders???
>
> Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, clutch. 
> This is my Tilton version:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/

Ron,
I am disappointed in you! I figured you would at least point out that it 
completely separates the two circuits making it more difficult (never 
impossible) to loses all of the car's brakes at once as well as allowing for 
balance adjustments, to say nothing of any number of other benefits I know 
nothing about...
David Lieb

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 27 06:27:55 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:27:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <9541EC981E7248C19FFEFBD0F8D02B81@midget>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F36F428925185AF549648B6B8610@phx.gbl>

I imagine that it also separates money from your bank account ... :)

----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>

 > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
 >> Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
 >> Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
 >> cylinders???
 >
 > Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, clutch.
 > This is my Tilton version:
 >
 > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/

Ron,
I am disappointed in you! I figured you would at least point out that it
completely separates the two circuits making it more difficult (never
impossible) to loses all of the car's brakes at once as well as allowing for
balance adjustments, to say nothing of any number of other benefits I know
nothing about...
David Lieb

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Wed Aug 27 06:28:38 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:28:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
Message-ID: <10340949.1219840118456.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It looks it! ;^)

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick <refisk at chartermi.net>
>Sent: Aug 27, 2008 8:04 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
>
>Ron's 3 master setup is the "era correct" version, of course.  :-)
>
>Rick
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <kk7ss at verizon.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
>
>
>> --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
>> > Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
>> > Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
>> > cylinders???
>>
>> Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, clutch.
>This is my Tilton version:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/
>>
>> Ron
>_______________________________________________
>

________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internet
http://www.peoplepc.com

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Aug 27 06:54:47 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:54:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <865AC7E033A446ED82348D9F9C2E2BF0@midget>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F34D7BC34502DE976CCD2FEB8610@phx.gbl>

Ah!  Crash barrier!  I had to google "Armco".  I assumed that the first hit 
( http://www.armco-guns.com/ ) wasn't what you were referring to, so I 
scrolled down until something made sense.




----Original Message Follows----
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>


Not as quickly as suddenly meeting the Armco!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Duquette" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>

>I imagine that it also separates money from your bank account ... :)
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
>
> > --- On Tue, 8/26/08, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> >> Lookin at pictures of the engine bay...
> >> Am I seeing things or are there 3 (three) master
> >> cylinders???
> >
> > Yes, very common on Spridget race cars. One each for front, rear, > 
>clutch.
> > This is my Tilton version:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/sizes/l/
>
>Ron,
>I am disappointed in you! I figured you would at least point out that it
>completely separates the two circuits making it more difficult (never
>impossible) to loses all of the car's brakes at once as well as allowing 
>for
>balance adjustments, to say nothing of any number of other benefits I know
>nothing about...
>David Lieb

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 27 07:28:21 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:28:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car = 3m/c's
In-Reply-To: <015101c9083d$1c15ae60$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <209110.94365.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<015101c9083d$1c15ae60$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <48B4F405.6791.118385@dmg.bossig.com>

Guys,

My thanks to all.... I had not seen 3 MC's before and I didn't know what they 
were for...
Now I know and it now seems so obvious and so logical- !!
I wish I had known about that in my Solo II days.
Like I tell my (adult) kids.... I learn something every day  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Aug 27 07:54:46 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:54:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car = 3m/c's
References: <209110.94365.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<015101c9083d$1c15ae60$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<48B4F405.6791.118385@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <54374DC5878C40DDB12259218813A3F8@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car = 3m/c's


Guys,

My thanks to all.... I had not seen 3 MC's before and I didn't know what 
they
were for...
Now I know and it now seems so obvious and so logical- !!
I wish I had known about that in my Solo II days.
Like I tell my (adult) kids.... I learn something every day  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

=================

Dave, the front/rear proportional adjustment of the brakes comes from the 
brake bias bar mounted in front (to the left in the pic) of Ron's MCs.  As 
you can see, there is a rod that can be adjusted from side to give more or 
less of the pedal pressure being applied to each master.

Adjusting too much to the rear makes for some interesting handling under 
braking.

LAD 

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 09:14:57 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:14:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
In-Reply-To: <441580.13441.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <00ac01c90728$495c93e0$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<441580.13441.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808270814n5104aab8v24d5b00c3356edd5@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:53 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Why would you have one sitting on a shelf when you could donate it to a
> poor fellow Spridgeteer (one on Long Island, for instance...) who would put
> it to good use?



Hey David, Rick might have been pointing the finger at somebody like
me..Just because I have 2 Judsons sitting on the shelf doesn't mean that I
don't plan to use them someday. The SP-1 is actually too small for my 1380
so I have one for an MGA that was designed for a 1500 engine. Just have to
make an intake manifold for it. And no, you can't have the SP-1. I plan to
build a motor for it too! I want to sleeve down a 1098 with the 2" crank to
a 948 stock bore and run the SP-1 on it. That takes care of the weak(er)
crank problem of the 948 and the heat problem from the Judson.


> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From bkitterer at mac.com  Wed Aug 27 10:26:00 2008
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:26:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808270814n5104aab8v24d5b00c3356edd5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00ac01c90728$495c93e0$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<441580.13441.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<b777e2be0808270814n5104aab8v24d5b00c3356edd5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D04BDFA4-74C2-48CA-806F-B4A6943ABFBA@mac.com>

Question - - why not open the ports on the Judson SP-1 manifold to  
match a 1275 head?


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition



On Aug 27, 2008, at 8:14 AM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:53 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> Why would you have one sitting on a shelf when you could donate it  
>> to a
>> poor fellow Spridgeteer (one on Long Island, for instance...) who  
>> would put
>> it to good use?
>
>
>
> Hey David, Rick might have been pointing the finger at somebody like
> me..Just because I have 2 Judsons sitting on the shelf doesn't mean  
> that I
> don't plan to use them someday. The SP-1 is actually too small for  
> my 1380
> so I have one for an MGA that was designed for a 1500 engine. Just  
> have to
> make an intake manifold for it. And no, you can't have the SP-1. I  
> plan to
> build a motor for it too! I want to sleeve down a 1098 with the 2"  
> crank to
> a 948 stock bore and run the SP-1 on it. That takes care of the weak 
> (er)
> crank problem of the 948 and the heat problem from the Judson.
>
>
>> --
>> Kent
>> 1960 Bugeye
>> 1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!
> _______________________________________________
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Wed Aug 27 10:29:28 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:29:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
Message-ID: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>

Hey Guyz ... every so often my credit card company sez I
have accumulated a bunch of "points" and need to do something
with them. Rarely is there anything I want, but .....

This time there is a Campbell Hausfeld 2-Gal. Air Compressor up to 100 psi.

I know, not very wonderful, ... but ... it's free!

Would something like this inflate car tires (30ps1) and bicycle tires 
(90psi)??

chuck

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 10:34:02 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:34:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
References: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808270934o56c97939t4e2ae0467083d97d@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it will do many useful things.  It will NOT, however, do things
like DA sanders, blast cabinets, and other high volume loads.
But, for what it is, it can be useful.  Just note the CFM delivery
specs and check the requirements of the tools you want to use, and
there you have it.

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 27 11:12:17 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:12:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WOT: Compressor Q
In-Reply-To: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
References: <48B580E8.6020109@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48B52881.11800.DE87A6@dmg.bossig.com>

It's *free*....  what else do you need to know  <G>

On 27 Aug 2008 at 12:29, chuck wrote:

>> I know, not very wonderful, ... but ... it's free!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 27 11:17:11 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:17:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrocs question...
Message-ID: <48B529A7.24582.E305BC@dmg.bossig.com>

Slowly working my way through the beast...

Running the motor at around 1000 rpm, I notice a fluttering of the tach 
needle and gas gauge needle\ and the motor seems to occasionally have a 
small stumble..

Checking the voltage at the back of the generator ('65 with 1275 motor) I 
can see the voltage is erratic,  rapidly varying roughly between 13.10V to 
13.48V .

Do I need to replace the genny??
Suggestions as to what I need to check would be helpful...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Aug 27 11:48:25 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:48:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electrocs question...
References: <48B529A7.24582.E305BC@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <3D42E37D98BD4C249B2013862F11E04A@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

Voltage at the back of the generator is going to vary thanks to the voltage 
regultor.   Perhaps this was the symptom addressed by the voltage stabilizer 
found on various LBCs?  If you have over 12V, I doubt the ignition is 
stumbling due to that.

Glen


> Slowly working my way through the beast...
>
> Running the motor at around 1000 rpm, I notice a fluttering of the tach
> needle and gas gauge needle\ and the motor seems to occasionally have a
> small stumble..
>
> Checking the voltage at the back of the generator ('65 with 1275 motor) I
> can see the voltage is erratic,  rapidly varying roughly between 13.10V to
> 13.48V .
>
> Do I need to replace the genny??
> Suggestions as to what I need to check would be helpful...

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Aug 27 12:23:22 2008
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:23:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hubs
Message-ID: <8C8C36DDE6054BE68E0BA1751352F28F@Dell9200>

I sent this message to the list a couple days ago and didn't even get a 
"stop worrying and go drive your car" response.  Maybe it didn't make it out 
of cyber space...


Guys,

I have two rear wheel hubs that I have cleaned up for installation.  Both
have the same part number (2A7088) but one has a thinner "flange" than the
other.  All of the other dimensions are the same.  Question:  Is there any
difference in application or is the thinner one really any weaker than the
thick one?  Maybe I should put the thick one on the right side?  A picture
of what I am seeing is at the following link:
http://www.nashvilletn.org/Bugeye/hubs.jpg

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"

From lincman90 at hotmail.com  Wed Aug 27 12:56:40 2008
From: lincman90 at hotmail.com (Tom Daughdrill)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:56:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad MG news from Automotive News
Message-ID: <BLU146-W78414D04DFF204E1C385BAC610@phx.gbl>

MG cancels plans to bring TF to North America
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 13:05:42 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hubs
In-Reply-To: <8C8C36DDE6054BE68E0BA1751352F28F@Dell9200>
References: <8C8C36DDE6054BE68E0BA1751352F28F@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808271205j52c376b9ob8af733e31dc16b3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
That just looks like the webbing between the stud bosses.  I think you
can drive with those.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
Derf

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 13:18:02 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:18:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Judson
In-Reply-To: <D04BDFA4-74C2-48CA-806F-B4A6943ABFBA@mac.com>
References: <00ac01c90728$495c93e0$6401a8c0@refisk>
	<441580.13441.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<b777e2be0808270814n5104aab8v24d5b00c3356edd5@mail.gmail.com>
	<D04BDFA4-74C2-48CA-806F-B4A6943ABFBA@mac.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808271218n4774fa46g1829378976bd0c8b@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at mac.com> wrote:

Question - - why not open the ports on the Judson SP-1 manifold to match a
1275 head?

That is not the problem... The problem is obtaining enough atmospheres of
pressure with the limited volume that the SP-1 produces. The SP-1 was
designed for 948cc. It has to be overdriven for even a stock 1275, even more
so for a 1380! The bearings on the SP-1 are only rated for 5800 - 6000 RPM.
If you overdrive it, that puts the bearings way over design limits. In order
to get the effective boost, the Judson desgined for a 1500 would work so
much better. That would eliminate the heat build up problem too. Trying to
compress the necessary volume of air exudes a lot of heat that is pushed
into the cylinders.

Many have tried to use the SP-1 on a 1275 with resulting heat issues. Just
ask Cap't Bob! That's why I want to build a 2" main 948 for it. Right size,
better strength and great fuel economy with the power of a good running 1275
in addition to the timeless classic look of a supercharger!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Wed Aug 27 13:35:55 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:35:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hubs
In-Reply-To: <8C8C36DDE6054BE68E0BA1751352F28F@Dell9200>
References: <8C8C36DDE6054BE68E0BA1751352F28F@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <48B5AC9B.5080500@lehigh.edu>

Hi Mark,
What you are seeing is the difference between batches for how the 
machinist chose to setup the first machining operation. There will be 
lots of variation there. Ideally the first piece casting gets layed out 
to insure there is sufficient material for the subsequent operations and 
satisfy all of the dimensions. I haven't heard of a broken rear hub, but 
to answer your question, the thinner web is probably weaker. If you're 
not confident with that one you should replace it. BTW most of the 
Spridgets that are raced do not use stock hubs. Replacement hubs are 
machined from steel so that an extra bearing can be added to provide 
stability and safety, and the flange is thicker and uniform all the way 
around.
John
Fogelsville, PA


Mark wrote:
> I sent this message to the list a couple days ago and didn't even get a 
> "stop worrying and go drive your car" response.  Maybe it didn't make it out 
> of cyber space...
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I have two rear wheel hubs that I have cleaned up for installation.  Both
> have the same part number (2A7088) but one has a thinner "flange" than the
> other.  All of the other dimensions are the same.  Question:  Is there any
> difference in application or is the thinner one really any weaker than the
> thick one?  Maybe I should put the thick one on the right side?  A picture
> of what I am seeing is at the following link:
> http://www.nashvilletn.org/Bugeye/hubs.jpg

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug 27 14:34:59 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:34:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad MG news from Automotive News
In-Reply-To: <BLU146-W78414D04DFF204E1C385BAC610@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C4DB0883.19486%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> MG cancels plans to bring TF to North America
Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be plenty of other Chinese cars to choose
from in the very near future.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 14:46:38 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:46:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise of
 Auto Industry
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>

I think Billy is right.  Having read a lot of the history of the British car
industry including living in that country for 6 years in the 1960s, I feel
there are clear similarities with what is happening in this country today.
Over-regulation and high fuel costs are killing the industry in this country
just as it did in Britain. Unless this country wakes up very quickly big
government taxes and regulation will drive all our industry to Asia and our
language and customs will disappear as we transition to majority Spanish
speaking. I hope I'm wrong form my descendants sake, but I really doubt it.


Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > MG cancels plans to bring TF to North America
> Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be plenty of other Chinese cars to choose
> from in the very near future.
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-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 15:52:08 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:52:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Donation
Message-ID: <48B5CC88.2090107@comcast.net>

I just dropped off the bonnet to get the underside media blasted.
I told Scott at the shop, I can afford 1 hour of blast time, do the 
underside, if time allows, do the top side.
When he asked about all the signatures on the bonnet, I told him the story.
So his donation is to blast the whole bonnet, no charge!
I did not ask, he volunteered.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 15:54:21 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:54:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night
Message-ID: <48B5CD0D.9030703@comcast.net>

I learned another lesson in auto repair, mainly front hub removal.
No matter how hard you beat on it, or how big the hammer is, them hubs 
will NOT come off
unless you remove the cotter pin and nut.
DUH!
So how many times have I done hub removals? I must be getting senile.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Aug 27 16:21:58 2008
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:21:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Donation
References: <48B5CC88.2090107@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B9C8BF177C2A46BA8B37976189516E90@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

This list is my antididote to the nightly news.  Idiots on the road, 
jaywalking teens on cellphones, cranky neighbors with loud dogs, customer 
"service" that doesn't speak English, you name it.  By the end of the 
average day, I'm a bit on the cranky side myself.  Reading this list often 
takes off that edge and renews my faith in SOME of the human race.  Now that 
you made me all happy and glowy, I'm going to go out in the 100 degree 
evening and do some weld grinding with a big smile.  (actually with an angle 
grinder, the smile just sits there)

Glen

>I just dropped off the bonnet to get the underside media blasted.
> I told Scott at the shop, I can afford 1 hour of blast time, do the
> underside, if time allows, do the top side.
> When he asked about all the signatures on the bonnet, I told him the 
> story.
> So his donation is to blast the whole bonnet, no charge!
> I did not ask, he volunteered.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 27 17:35:53 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:35:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite Race car
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F36F428925185AF549648B6B8610@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <484507.33980.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 8/27/08, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I imagine that it also separates money from your bank
> account ... :)

No, actually. The cylinders are very cheap and available anywhere for $50 or $60. I got the pedal box for nothing, but you could do like the Speedwell setup using a modified stock pedal mount. As far as era correct, there isn't anything especially modern or cheatin' about them other than they look nice and are new. The larger MGB/Spit setup or rear discs would be illegal. I'll get grief for this, but I'm even still using the early Bugeye rear drums with single wheel cylinder with no issues. I haven't found any performance difference between the stock and Tilton, but it's nice to know the extra circuit is there.

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Aug 27 18:22:58 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:22:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye makes all-time top 100 List!
Message-ID: <C4DB3DF2.19494%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/08/25/mfca
rs1.xml

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Wed Aug 27 18:59:41 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:59:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night
References: <48B5CD0D.9030703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B765C06488344B95A0FF38A022A2DB82@personal>

LOL, shame on you.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night


>I learned another lesson in auto repair, mainly front hub removal.
> No matter how hard you beat on it, or how big the hammer is, them hubs
> will NOT come off
> unless you remove the cotter pin and nut.
> DUH!
> So how many times have I done hub removals? I must be getting senile.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Aug 27 19:03:30 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:03:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>

A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.

http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html

Pay particular attention to picture # 15 :-)

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 27 20:22:51 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:22:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
Message-ID: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>

Did Spridgets ever use a scissor jack???
'Cause that's what was in the boot!!

I have a Jaguar jack but the arm will not fit into the jack holes ;-((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 20:34:38 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:34:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
In-Reply-To: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808271934m972eed7ubc6d241160ce6ef8@mail.gmail.com>

The short answer is "nope"!

Ed

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:

> Did Spridgets ever use a scissor jack???
> 'Cause that's what was in the boot!!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Aug 27 20:28:00 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:28:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
In-Reply-To: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <48B60D30.5060709@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Did Spridgets ever use a scissor jack???
> 'Cause that's what was in the boot!!
>
>   
No but keep it because it does much less damage than the original jack.
The Holy Sprite has oblong holes from the original jack, I have seen 
plenty of scraped door posts from the jack, I have scrapped a few myself 
as the jack melts into the asphalt.
Scissors or a late VW Jetta rocker lip jack, it's very small and works well.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 27 20:32:56 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 20:32:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ADP is Now "Market Adjustment" - No LBC!!!
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808271932u5672a6cdxbf7a05842dc729cc@mail.gmail.com>

As I sip on my 2nd vodka and diet lemon-lime, I decided to share the humor
that I encountered today. (Man, it is a wonderful thing to be retired with a
positive cash flow... I used to have to be at work right now.) Anyway, I
stopped by the local Ford dealer today as they have had a Shelby GT 500
sitting on their lot for a week now. Yes, OUT in the WEATHER!!! It even had
rain spots from earlier today on it. No purist will ever buy this one! The
MSRP was a little over 46K but there was an add-on sticker. They cranked it
up another 10K calling it a "market adjustment". They used to call it ADP,
additional dealer profit. Wow, these guys are way out of touch with reality!
They have had a "Bullit" model sitting there for 4 or 5 months now at
sticker... I guess that they did not get the memo that the rush to buy a GT
500 ended about 8 months ago when Ford announced the zillion other Shelby
models they were going to build.

After I left there, I went to the Dodge place across the road. They have a
hemi powered Challenger sitting on the lot. It was only 32K with a "market
dajustment" of only $995. It gets better gas mileage too! It read 15/25 vs.
the Shelby's 14/20 MPG.

I can't wait to see what the market adjustment is on the new Camaro.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dmg at bossig.com  Wed Aug 27 20:42:56 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:42:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
In-Reply-To: <48B60D30.5060709@comcast.net>
References: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>,
	<48B60D30.5060709@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48B5AE40.23240.2E8FCDB@dmg.bossig.com>

Frank,

Thanks.... the scissor jack works quite well. 
I was hoping (and you confirmed it) that it was OK to use the lip on the 
bodywork...  <G>

On 27 Aug 2008 at 22:28, Frank Clarici wrote:
>> Scissors or a late VW Jetta rocker lip jack, it's very small and works
>> well.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Wed Aug 27 20:38:53 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:38:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
References: <48B5A98B.26311.2D698AA@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <9417F03FB554455B9C59D649290ADD9C@personal>

Never used a scissor jack.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <dmg at bossig.com>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...


> Did Spridgets ever use a scissor jack???
> 'Cause that's what was in the boot!!
>
> I have a Jaguar jack but the arm will not fit into the jack holes ;-((
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Aug 27 21:26:58 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:26:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jack question...
In-Reply-To: <9417F03FB554455B9C59D649290ADD9C@personal>
Message-ID: <20080828032658.LYNW16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Can't run with one either as I was taught.

Chris

66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Jack Laird
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:39 PM
To: kk7ss at verizon.net; spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Jack question...

Never used a scissor jack.

From bighealey at charter.net  Thu Aug 28 05:33:01 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:33:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night
In-Reply-To: <48B5CD0D.9030703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <60EE6EBBDB824BBFA16C080DF569F9B8@TRACY>

Frank,

At least you remember what you worked on last night.

I call it Part-timers disease.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+bighealey=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 2:54 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night

I learned another lesson in auto repair, mainly front hub removal.
No matter how hard you beat on it, or how big the hammer is, them hubs
will NOT come off
unless you remove the cotter pin and nut.
DUH!
So how many times have I done hub removals? I must be getting senile.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 28 05:53:11 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:53:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ADP is Now "Market Adjustment" - No LBC!!!
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0808271932u5672a6cdxbf7a05842dc729cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <909018.15940.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 8/27/08, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:
> They have had a "Bullit" model sitting there for

That reminds me - I'm reading "McQueen's Machines" about his cars and bikes. Unbelievable - he basically lived the automotive lifestyle I would t'were I a truly rich man. There are a few pages on his special Sprites and his Mini. An absolute must read for anyone on this list.

Ron

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 28 06:13:55 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:13:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48B69683.3020009@lehigh.edu>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>
> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>
>   
Thanks for posting this link Larry. Made for a nice start to my day.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 07:53:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye makes all-time top 100 List!
In-Reply-To: <C4DB3DF2.19494%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C4DB3DF2.19494%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808280653t424098a9v6219407a072629de@mail.gmail.com>

An interesting list. I agreed with only about half of them.  Moreover, they
left the Pontiac Aztec and the Borgward Isabella off the list. Possibly the
two ugliest cars ever...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/08/25/mfca
> rs1.xml<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2008/08/25/mfcars1.xml>

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 08:03:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:03:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye makes all-time top 100 List!
References: <C4DB3DF2.19494%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<43840a7e0808280653t424098a9v6219407a072629de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71D70F0869D14AFF9EDBD3BF304CE3BD@NilesAD.von.gov>

> An interesting list. I agreed with only about half of them.  Moreover, 
> they
> left the Pontiac Aztec and the Borgward Isabella off the list. Possibly 
> the
> two ugliest cars ever...

It looks as if they presented the participants with a list of 100 cars and 
asked them to rank them by ugly. How else would they get prototype cars in 
there that the people could not possibly have seen. Another case of "tell me 
what you want to prove and I will supply the data for you."
David Lieb 

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 28 08:09:25 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:09:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>
> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>
>
>   
Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula 
Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
Thanks,
John
Fogelsville, PA

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Aug 28 08:52:14 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:52:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP> <48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>

That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I think 
that is me in #15 :-0

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>>
>> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>>
>>
>>
> Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula 
> Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
> Thanks,
> John
> Fogelsville, PA

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 28 09:00:21 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:00:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC -- THE FRONT FELL OFF
Message-ID: <1BA1145DF09F4A32BBE1BACC05942C36@Larry>

On August 19th 2007, an oil tanker off the coast of Australia split in two,
dumping 20,000 tons of crude oil.

Senator Collins, a member of the Australian Parliament, appeared on a TV news
program to reassure the Australian public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 28 09:07:09 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:07:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <4687657.1219936029604.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

It looks like you are having a very rough day of it.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
>Sent: Aug 28, 2008 10:52 AM
>To: John Caffrey <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>Cc: Spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
>That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I think 
>that is me in #15 :-0
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
>To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
>Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
>
>> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>>> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>>>
>>> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula 
>> Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA


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From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 28 09:36:36 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC -- THE FRONT FELL OFF
In-Reply-To: <1BA1145DF09F4A32BBE1BACC05942C36@Larry>
References: <1BA1145DF09F4A32BBE1BACC05942C36@Larry>
Message-ID: <48B66394.10520.7C96A7@dmg.bossig.com>

Very clever....LMAO...
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 10:01:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:01:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye makes all-time top 100 List!
In-Reply-To: <71D70F0869D14AFF9EDBD3BF304CE3BD@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <C4DB3DF2.19494%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<43840a7e0808280653t424098a9v6219407a072629de@mail.gmail.com>
	<71D70F0869D14AFF9EDBD3BF304CE3BD@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808280901m13bc347bnc2c83ca5b9037818@mail.gmail.com>

What!?  You mean that ISN"T the way to do science!?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:03 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> Another case of "tell me
> what you want to prove and I will supply the data for you."

From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Aug 28 10:22:54 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:22:54 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I think
that is me in #15 :-0

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>>
>> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>>
>>
>>
> Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula
> Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
> Thanks,
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 28 11:50:31 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:50:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What I learned last night
In-Reply-To: <48B5CD0D.9030703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEBMCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<No matter how hard you beat on it, or how big the hammer is, them hubs
will NOT come off unless you remove the cotter pin and nut.>>

Sounds like your normal 'haste' actually DID make 'waste', Frank!!!<VBG>

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 28 11:00:18 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:00:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu> <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48B6D9A2.8000601@lehigh.edu>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I 
> think that is me in #15 :-0
>
What a beautiful car in the picture. What is it?
John

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 11:01:28 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:01:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281001g387dc6d9t2d2c42e562b6eb6e@mail.gmail.com>

Don't think you can. It looks to me like they were taken by a professional
photographer who wants to keep the intellectual rights for them. You might
be able to buy pictures from him. It's his website, isn't it?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:22 AM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Listers -
>
> Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
>
> -- "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I
> think
> that is me in #15 :-0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
> To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
> Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
>
> > Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> >> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race
> weekend.
> >>
> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula
> > Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
> > Thanks,
> > John
> > Fogelsville, PA
> You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Aug 28 11:23:49 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:23:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<43840a7e0808281001g387dc6d9t2d2c42e562b6eb6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <002501c90932$d6c80fa0$4e947e4c@HP>

Jim is correct. I don't know the photographer.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jim Johnson
  To: cclabaw at juno.com
  Cc: millerls at ado13.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; jdc6 at lehigh.edu
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


  Don't think you can. It looks to me like they were taken by a professional
photographer who wants to keep the intellectual rights for them. You might be
able to buy pictures from him. It's his website, isn't it?

  Cheers!!
  Jim


  On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:22 AM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com>
wrote:

    Listers -

    Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?

    Clay L.
    '67 Sprite


    -- "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
    That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I
think
    that is me in #15 :-0

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
    To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
    Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
    Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
    Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


    > Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
    >> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race
weekend.
    >>
    http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
    >>
    >>
    >>
    > Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula
    > Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
    > Thanks,
    > John
    > Fogelsville, PA
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Aug 28 11:29:56 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:29:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu> <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6D9A2.8000601@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <002c01c90933$b0c6a400$4e947e4c@HP>

The body is a Byers. Running gear is all Volvo. Byers body's are very close 
to Devin's as the molds were taken from a mid 50's Ferrari. Car was 
originally built in about 1959 using 1957 Volvo drive train. Drive train has 
since been updated to the Volvo B20 engine, front disk brakes and close 
ratio gearbox.

Larry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>> That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I 
>> think that is me in #15 :-0
>>
> What a beautiful car in the picture. What is it?
> John

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 28 11:36:45 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:36:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <002c01c90933$b0c6a400$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu> <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6D9A2.8000601@lehigh.edu> <002c01c90933$b0c6a400$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48B6E22D.3070202@lehigh.edu>

Larry,
Very cool! I went to your web site to look for more pictures of it. Did 
I miss it?
John


Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> The body is a Byers. Running gear is all Volvo. Byers body's are very close 
> to Devin's as the molds were taken from a mid 50's Ferrari. Car was 
> originally built in about 1959 using 1957 Volvo drive train. Drive train has 
> since been updated to the Volvo B20 engine, front disk brakes and close 
> ratio gearbox.
>
> Larry

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Aug 28 11:42:09 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:42:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu> <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6D9A2.8000601@lehigh.edu> <002c01c90933$b0c6a400$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6E22D.3070202@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <006701c90935$65d62720$4e947e4c@HP>

http://ado13.com/byers/

At the time this page was made we thought the car was actually a Devin.

Larry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races


> Larry,
> Very cool! I went to your web site to look for more pictures of it. Did I 
> miss it?
> John
>
>
> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>> The body is a Byers. Running gear is all Volvo. Byers body's are very 
>> close to Devin's as the molds were taken from a mid 50's Ferrari. Car was 
>> originally built in about 1959 using 1957 Volvo drive train. Drive train 
>> has since been updated to the Volvo B20 engine, front disk brakes and 
>> close ratio gearbox.
>>
>> Larry

From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Aug 28 12:01:30 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:01:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net>

Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
then save it.

chuck

cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
> Listers -
>
> Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
>
> -- "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> That was one of about 45 jr's in the event. I'm not totally sure but I think
> that is me in #15 :-0
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Caffrey" <jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU>
> To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
> Cc: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
>
>   
>> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>>     
>>> A set of very nice pictures from the 2008 Monterey Historic Race weekend.
>>>
>>> http://dmtimaging.com/historics2008/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Pictures #10 & #12 with the inclined A-series engine, is that a Formula
>> Junior?  I recognized Homer, but would need you to identify pic #15.
>> Thanks,
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>>     
> You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Aug 28 12:13:49 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:13:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>

Yeah, except you don't own it.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
chuck
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races

Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
then save it.

chuck

cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
> Listers -
>
> Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite

From ggroiss at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 12:17:18 2008
From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:17:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
Message-ID: <d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>

You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for most.

-g

On 8/28/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
> Yeah, except you don't own it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> chuck
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
> Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
> clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
> then save it.
>
> chuck
>
> cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
> > Listers -
> >
> > Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
> >
> > Clay L.
> > '67 Sprite
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 12:23:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:23:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
	<d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281123q1181753clcba0f74bbaa6274@mail.gmail.com>

Just remember, your computer is easily tracked through your ISP if someone
decided to make an example of you. It ain't free just because it's on the
internet. I've got a storm chaser pal who just got his $250K settlement from
somebody that used his pictures without permission.

Come to think of it, I've got some songs online. Wanna steal them so I can
sue ya fer yer back teeth? ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Gregory Groiss <ggroiss at gmail.com> wrote:

> You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for most.
>
> -g
>
> On 8/28/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, except you don't own it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
> thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> > chuck
> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
> >
> > Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
> > clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
> > then save it.
> >
> > chuck
> >
> > cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
> > > Listers -
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
> > >
> > > Clay L.
> > > '67 Sprite
> > _______________________________________________
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Aug 28 12:26:27 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:26:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>	
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
	<d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001201c9093b$97df8b20$c79ea160$@com>

When someone comes over and possesses something of yours, we'll see how that
works for ya.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Groiss [mailto:ggroiss at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:17 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: cciaffone at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races

You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for most.

-g

On 8/28/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
> Yeah, except you don't own it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of
> chuck
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
> Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
> clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
> then save it.
>
> chuck

From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Aug 28 12:41:26 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:41:26 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <20080828.114126.11791.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Remember, if they have a picture of you, they own your soul.



-- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
When someone comes over and possesses something of yours, we'll see how that
works for ya.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Groiss [mailto:ggroiss at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:17 PM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson
Cc: cciaffone at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races

You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for most.

-g

On 8/28/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
> Yeah, except you don't own it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of
> chuck
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
>
> Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
> clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
> then save it.
>
> chuck
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 28 12:57:32 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:57:32 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808281123q1181753clcba0f74bbaa6274@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F40D1787BF0A1A23AFFE492B8600@phx.gbl>

You say that without knowing what his back teeth are like?

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

Just remember, your computer is easily tracked through your ISP if someone
decided to make an example of you. It ain't free just because it's on the
internet. I've got a storm chaser pal who just got his $250K settlement from
somebody that used his pictures without permission.

Come to think of it, I've got some songs online. Wanna steal them so I can
sue ya fer yer back teeth? ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Gregory Groiss <ggroiss at gmail.com> wrote:

 > You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for 
most.
 >
 > -g
 >
 > On 8/28/08, Wm. Severin Thompson <wsthompson at thicko.com> wrote:
 > > Yeah, except you don't own it.
 > >
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
 > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson <spridgets-bounces%2Bwsthompson>=
 > thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
 > > chuck
 > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
 > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
 > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
 > >
 > > Well I can certainly hit Alt-PrtScr to copy the whole page to the
 > > clipboard, paste it into PSP, crop to the photo itself, and
 > > then save it.
 > >
 > > chuck
 > >
 > > cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
 > > > Listers -
 > > >
 > > > Does anyone know how to extract/save single images from this?
 > > >
 > > > Clay L.
 > > > '67 Sprite
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Thu Aug 28 13:13:43 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:13:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <006701c90935$65d62720$4e947e4c@HP>
References: <02cc01c908a9$e3afbc10$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6B195.6080402@lehigh.edu> <037601c9091d$a99314e0$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6D9A2.8000601@lehigh.edu> <002c01c90933$b0c6a400$4e947e4c@HP>
	<48B6E22D.3070202@lehigh.edu> <006701c90935$65d62720$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <48B6F8E7.6020000@lehigh.edu>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> http://ado13.com/byers/
>
> At the time this page was made we thought the car was actually a Devin.
>
> Larry
>
>
Larry,
Thanks for the history lesson. Excellent job documenting the 
restoration, as always.
John

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Aug 28 13:27:50 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:27:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <20080828.114126.11791.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080828.114126.11791.1@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <48B6FC36.7010705@frontiernet.net>

Exactly why there was never a picture taken of Tashunka Witko (Crazy 
Horse to you wasikun). All the photos and paintings that you see in gift 
shops or museums are of a generic Lakota warrior.

Kate


cclabaw at juno.com wrote:
> Remember, if they have a picture of you, they own your soul.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Aug 28 13:30:58 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:30:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
 ofAuto Industry
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Government regulations probably make it harder, if not impossible, for
American industry to compete with Asian sweatshop factories. But we
still have, and have historically had, the least expensive fuel costs in
the world. I have yet to pay more than $1 per liter. Have you been to
Europe lately? How do they drive ANYWHERE???


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 4:47 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
ofAuto Industry

I think Billy is right.  Having read a lot of the history of the British
car
industry including living in that country for 6 years in the 1960s, I
feel
there are clear similarities with what is happening in this country
today.
Over-regulation and high fuel costs are killing the industry in this
country
just as it did in Britain. Unless this country wakes up very quickly big
government taxes and regulation will drive all our industry to Asia and
our
language and customs will disappear as we transition to majority Spanish
speaking. I hope I'm wrong form my descendants sake, but I really doubt
it.


Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
wrote:

> > MG cancels plans to bring TF to North America
> Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be plenty of other Chinese cars to
choose
> from in the very near future.
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Aug 28 13:52:13 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:52:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808281001g387dc6d9t2d2c42e562b6eb6e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4DC4FFD.194E0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> photographer who wants to keep the intellectual rights
On a Mac: Shift, Apple, 4. Then use the cursor to crop the shot. When you
let go, it's saved to the desktop.
It's as easy as stealing music.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 28 14:05:59 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:05:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Phil Hill
Message-ID: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>

Phil Hill died this morning of respiratory problems and Parkinson's.  He was
81.

http://tinyurl.com/6pd5tw

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 14:46:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:46:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Phil Hill
In-Reply-To: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
References: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281346m74eed8dcmfcd3b76e8090ccbb@mail.gmail.com>

We heard he had gone into hospital Sunday as we watched F-1 coverage from
Valencia. I watched him race at the Glen back in the late 50s and early 60s.
I got to meet him, chat a little, and got his autograph in 2002 in Santa Fe
and will treasure that experience always. The only American born world
champion and a great gentleman.

Godspeed, Phil...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Phil Hill died this morning of respiratory problems and Parkinson's.  He
> was
> 81.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6pd5tw
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From cciaffone at verizon.net  Thu Aug 28 14:51:22 2008
From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
	<d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B70FCA.8020809@verizon.net>

I must apologize. Perhaps I did not read the original
post in enough detail. I thought he just wanted a copy of
the picture for his own personal use, like in a screen saver
or similar. I would certainly not suggest he profit from someone
else's work.

Sorry an' all.

chuck

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Aug 28 14:54:28 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Phil Hill
References: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
	<43840a7e0808281346m74eed8dcmfcd3b76e8090ccbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48EC8593941849D1A94CB4C9DF9E9D01@Larry>

I have to agree, Jim.  I am a big Mario fan, but Hill was the only 
American-born World Champion.

I thought maybe Michael would show well when he went over there, but that 
sure didn't happen -- for whatever reason.  That didn't break my heart 
because, as much as I am a fan of Mario, I think Michael is an a-hole after 
a couple of personal experiences.

LAD


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Phil Hill


We heard he had gone into hospital Sunday as we watched F-1 coverage from
Valencia. I watched him race at the Glen back in the late 50s and early 60s.
I got to meet him, chat a little, and got his autograph in 2002 in Santa Fe
and will treasure that experience always. The only American born world
champion and a great gentleman.

Godspeed, Phil...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Larry Daniels 
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Phil Hill died this morning of respiratory problems and Parkinson's.  He
> was
> 81.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6pd5tw
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 14:59:51 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:59:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
Message-ID: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>

Evening all,

does anyone know where to find those types of hose clamps that are  
just wire not the band type?

Lester

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 28 15:15:54 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:15:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>
References: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>

 Restoration Supply Company; p.18 in paper catalog.

.pdf catalog at http://www.restorationstuff.com/Catalog/catalog.html

 

=======================================

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Lester
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:00 PM
To: spridget list; Sprite
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??

 

Evening all,

 

does anyone know where to find those types of hose clamps that are  

just wire not the band type?

 

Lester

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From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Aug 28 15:17:41 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:17:41 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <20080828.141741.29951.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

All this leads me to wonder how much the owners of these cars were paid by the
photographer.  Meanwhile, I'll lust after the inclined A-motor; very tidy.
Did anyone notice the left-turning thermostat housing?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:
I must apologize. Perhaps I did not read the original
post in enough detail. I thought he just wanted a copy of
the picture for his own personal use, like in a screen saver
or similar. I would certainly not suggest he profit from someone
else's work.

Sorry an' all.

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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 15:24:02 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:24:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension causing car to have mind of its
 own (and hello)
In-Reply-To: <48B43A50.9000100@frontiernet.net>
References: <50FB814113C74945BE7F8A1A2377803E6DB204B91D@df-whippet-msg.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>
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Message-ID: <A0B8DFE2-F65B-4052-8924-A08BA72D2774@comcast.net>

Not for me tho'.. wink wink...  but my wife looks so poorly on that  
sort of thing..  ;-)

Lester

On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:16 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote:

> I must be getting old.  Did I forget to mention that I am a widow  
> when I
> recommended Peter C. for the magic boxes?   Unfortunately, I am at
> least  30+ years too old for you.
>
> Kate
>>  and one offer of
>> marriage. Okay, I made the last one up.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 15:36:57 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:36:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <48B70FCA.8020809@verizon.net>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
	<d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48B70FCA.8020809@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281436r31e0006byc3925721ef300016@mail.gmail.com>

All due respect, Chuck, but an artist makes his/her living by selling their
work to people for their personal use. I do music, but the principle is the
same. Taking someone else's work even for use in the privacy of your
computer is still stealing. No hard feelings - that's just the way it is....

Cheers!!
Jim


On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:51 PM, chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:

> I must apologize. Perhaps I did not read the original
> post in enough detail. I thought he just wanted a copy of
> the picture for his own personal use, like in a screen saver
> or similar. I would certainly not suggest he profit from someone
> else's work.
>
> Sorry an' all.
>
> chuck
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 16:02:01 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:02:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com><48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net>
	<000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com><d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com><48B70FCA.8020809@verizon.net>
	<43840a7e0808281436r31e0006byc3925721ef300016@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91ABA3AC9DCF4157A741BB57F369D858@NilesAD.von.gov>

> All due respect, Chuck, but an artist makes his/her living by selling 
> their
> work to people for their personal use. I do music, but the principle is 
> the
> same. Taking someone else's work even for use in the privacy of your
> computer is still stealing. No hard feelings - that's just the way it 
> is....

And the "artist" making a profit by photographing the results of my money 
and hard work is ok?
Just how much is Larry Miller making for posing in that phot??? 

From mike.vasquez at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 16:03:12 2008
From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <28f529ba0808281503k56effa9biee3f9a2fac756003@mail.gmail.com>

The website can track who visited the page, but no website can track whether
or not I did a copy/paste, unless they've installed a keylogger on my
system, at which point, I'm pretty sure they'll be paying me 250,000, not
vice versa.

Anyone who puts an image on the web knows very well that someone else may
save it to their PC.  There is virtually no way of taking something back,
once you stick it out there in cyberspace.

If I copy the picture, and then repost it, on the otherhand, I can be in all
sorts of trouble.  The copyright may prohibit someone saving a local copy,
but that is not very enforceable.  Consider the fact that when you visit a
website, you cache most of the images on the web page locally on your pc
anyway: your browser saves a copy of the image on your hard drive.  So by
your theory, if you visit the website, you've violated the copyright, and
must delete all temporary files after visiting a website!

Hardly a tenable position.

Mike

From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Gregory Groiss" <ggroiss at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:23:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Just remember, your computer is easily tracked through your ISP if someone
decided to make an example of you. It ain't free just because it's on the
internet. I've got a storm chaser pal who just got his $250K settlement from
somebody that used his pictures without permission.

Come to think of it, I've got some songs online. Wanna steal them so I can
sue ya fer yer back teeth? ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Gregory Groiss <ggroiss at gmail.com> wrote:

> You may not own it but you will possess it and that's good enough for
most.
>
> -g

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Aug 28 16:11:16 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:11:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <20080828.141741.29951.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20080828.141741.29951.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <008a01c9095a$ffd4e9e0$ff7ebda0$@com>

Yeah, to be fair, that's a whole other subject. Somewhere in the fine print
of your race entry there's something about the venue or race organizer
having the right to your likeness, and/or appoint an official photographer
who then has the right to sell them. Most of the track photogs are cool...
but some are not.

Gordon Jolley does a lot of races... apparently takes pictures of my car at
Road America one year, mails them to me, and bills me... all unsolicited on
my part. I had to tell him to pound it. I wasn't going to eat the cost of
postage to send them back.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
cclabaw at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:18 PM
To: cciaffone at verizon.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races

All this leads me to wonder how much the owners of these cars were paid by
the
photographer.  Meanwhile, I'll lust after the inclined A-motor; very tidy.
Did anyone notice the left-turning thermostat housing?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite


-- chuck <cciaffone at verizon.net> wrote:
I must apologize. Perhaps I did not read the original
post in enough detail. I thought he just wanted a copy of
the picture for his own personal use, like in a screen saver
or similar. I would certainly not suggest he profit from someone
else's work.

Sorry an' all.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Aug 28 16:18:45 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:18:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
 ofAuto Industry
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
	<E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <415E8EC202B24CAFAE9E98901FFFCDE8@Home>

> Government regulations probably make it harder, if not impossible, for
> American industry to compete with Asian sweatshop factories.

If you have ever spent time in Asia, you would realize that, in many places, 
those sweatshop factories provide better conditions and better pay than any 
alternative available to the local people.   So let's not be too harsh. 
Yes, they are tough competition, but they are not necessarily exploitive.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Aug 28 16:30:28 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
Message-ID: <009401c9095d$addf2260$099d6720$@com>

Yeah, to be fair, that's a whole other subject. Somewhere in the fine print
of your race entry there's something about the venue or race organizer
having the right to your likeness, and/or appoint an official photographer
who then has the right to sell them. Most of the track photogs are cool...
but some are not.

Gordon Jolley does a lot of races... apparently takes pictures of my car at
Road America one year, mails them to me, and bills me... all unsolicited on
my part. I had to tell him to pound it. I wasn't going to eat the cost of
postage to send them back.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
cclabaw at juno.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:18 PM
To: cciaffone at verizon.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races

All this leads me to wonder how much the owners of these cars were paid by
the
photographer.  Meanwhile, I'll lust after the inclined A-motor; very tidy.
Did anyone notice the left-turning thermostat housing?

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

From dmg at bossig.com  Thu Aug 28 16:38:24 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:38:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Phil Hill
In-Reply-To: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
References: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
Message-ID: <48B6C670.29057.1FEC226@dmg.bossig.com>

A gentleman racer and a constant finisher...
It was my pleaseure to see hin race in the UK....
There's not many of his ilk in the professional drivers any more... 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 16:50:53 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:50:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <91ABA3AC9DCF4157A741BB57F369D858@NilesAD.von.gov>
References: <20080828.092254.23285.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<48B6E7FA.4020608@verizon.net> <000e01c90939$d3d642b0$7b82c810$@com>
	<d66433d0808281117w5e86c171ka4ed8454426ec63a@mail.gmail.com>
	<48B70FCA.8020809@verizon.net>
	<43840a7e0808281436r31e0006byc3925721ef300016@mail.gmail.com>
	<91ABA3AC9DCF4157A741BB57F369D858@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281550r3db774e0qa894906ce4bb8fe9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:02 PM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

>
> Just how much is Larry Miller making for posing in that phot???


I don't think he got much at all. Especially when he offered to pose in the
buff....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 16:57:18 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:57:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <28f529ba0808281503k56effa9biee3f9a2fac756003@mail.gmail.com>
References: <28f529ba0808281503k56effa9biee3f9a2fac756003@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808281557i3011e05ewb7df7c62e8e51c85@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Mike Vasquez <mike.vasquez at gmail.com>wrote:

> The website can track who visited the page, but no website can track
> whether
> or not I did a copy/paste, unless they've installed a keylogger on my
> system, at which point, I'm pretty sure they'll be paying me 250,000, not
> vice versa.


I got a buddy who specializes in NSA and CIA internet stuff. You'd be
surprised to know what they can tell about you...  ;-)

>
> Anyone who puts an image on the web knows very well that someone else may
> save it to their PC.  There is virtually no way of taking something back,
> once you stick it out there in cyberspace.


True enough. It all really boils down to how comfortable one is about using
other peoples intellectual property without paying for it.  I hafta look in
the mirror in the morning.

Cheers!!
Jim

From mike.vasquez at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 17:29:04 2008
From: mike.vasquez at gmail.com (Mike Vasquez)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:29:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Monterey Historic Races
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808281557i3011e05ewb7df7c62e8e51c85@mail.gmail.com>
References: <28f529ba0808281503k56effa9biee3f9a2fac756003@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808281557i3011e05ewb7df7c62e8e51c85@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28f529ba0808281629s10fcfc5ak6b9bd60600b28a3a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I got a buddy who specializes in NSA and CIA internet stuff. You'd be
> surprised to know what they can tell about you...  ;-)
>

If you're being specifically monitored -- which for the really cool stuff --
it's required they've set up some equipment in your house/vicinity.  Kinda
expensive to do for everybody out there.  But, those steps are required if
they're not going to install stuff on your PC.  For the slightly lesser cool
stuff -- they don't need to install jack on your PC -- but they're not going
to know keystrokes and copying/pasting without doing the first part, or
hacking into/examining my PC.  I do this stuff for a living -- not PCs, but
IT Security.  FUD = bad!

Anyone who puts an image on the web knows very well that someone else may
>> save it to their PC.  There is virtually no way of taking something back,
>> once you stick it out there in cyberspace.
>
>
> True enough. It all really boils down to how comfortable one is about using
> other peoples intellectual property without paying for it.  I hafta look in
> the mirror in the morning.
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
As I said, you put a copy on your PC going to the site.  Duplication is
result of the technology.  Interesting writeup here:
http://www.ifla.org/documents/infopol/copyright/nort1.htm, also indicating
that, due to a copies non-commercial use, plausibly falling under the
fair-use clause.

So -- a copy of an image on a website which you store on your PC is not a
violation.  The artist posted it, and by merely visiting the site, you have
downloaded it, so permission is implied by their act.  This is far different
than, say, an MP3.  If you find an MP3 on the web, and it is not on the
artist/labels site, and it's free, then sure, common sense kicks in and
grabbing a copy puts you on the most dubious legal footing.

The label that posts their MP3 for download charges for it, or offers it
free.  It's determined by the source.  A photographer who wants to protect
their IP offers low res/scaled down images for free, often watermarked, and
requires purchase of higher res/quality pictures, which are watermark free.

The photog that posted the picture, is already letting you look at it for
free, and letting you put it on your PC, for free.  It is generally
recognized that the IP owner also has a responsibility to protect his IP.
Posting an image on the web that all can access, for free, isn't really
"protecting it".

I just don't see a need to spread guilt around on this subject.  I look at
myself in the mirror each morning, too, though sometimes, the lights are
pretty dim.

Mike

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Aug 28 17:35:17 2008
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??
In-Reply-To: <7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
References: <BCAA46DB-8247-4EC4-8950-E8FAC9877A07@comcast.net>
	<7FDDE64CA90F4BFCB42654DCB11A2188@spider>
Message-ID: <00cd01c90966$bab6b4e0$30241ea0$@net>

Clarke Spares... Tod carries ALL of the correct sizes along with doing the
correct stamping for VIN plates and engine ID tags.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:16 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??

 Restoration Supply Company; p.18 in paper catalog.

.pdf catalog at http://www.restorationstuff.com/Catalog/catalog.html

 

=======================================

 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Lester
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:00 PM
To: spridget list; Sprite
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire hose clamps??

 

Evening all,

 

does anyone know where to find those types of hose clamps that are  

just wire not the band type?

 

Lester

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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 17:39:12 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:39:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
Message-ID: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>

I guess I should feel complimented... I just had the privilege of picking up 
a registered letter at the Post Office. The State of Illinois is telling me 
that I lied to them when I registered the Bugeye. According to them, they 
have "completed an independant valuation of the vehicle" (without ever 
seeing it, of course) and determined that it must nbe worth $15,000 to 
$19,999.99 so I must owe them $814 of additional tax, penalty, and interest. 
I wonder if they would like to buy it at their own value instead??? This is 
going to be fun? NOT!
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 17:47:25 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:47:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
Message-ID: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>

So, does anyone know a website where I can go for "fair market values" of a 
1960 Bugeye that has been forever banished from the ranks of concours?
David Lieb 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 28 18:14:30 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:14:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
References: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
Message-ID: <A088A5E3C672446DA247A8886E253B5B@spider>

Possibly someone in Illinois has been thru this before, and knows a good
attorney? You cannot be the only one that has faced this recently. 
You should not have to reinvent the wheel in fighting your fight, and should
not have to fight it alone.
If there is not info here, google the internet using three or four words
that best sum up the subject.
...bill in oregon
=======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of David Lieb
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:39 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values

I guess I should feel complimented... I just had the privilege of picking up

a registered letter at the Post Office. The State of Illinois is telling me 
that I lied to them when I registered the Bugeye. According to them, they 
have "completed an independant valuation of the vehicle" (without ever 
seeing it, of course) and determined that it must nbe worth $15,000 to 
$19,999.99 so I must owe them $814 of additional tax, penalty, and interest.

I wonder if they would like to buy it at their own value instead??? This is 
going to be fun? NOT!
David Lieb 
_______________________________________________

From nases at verizon.net  Thu Aug 28 18:14:40 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (nases)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:14:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] For sale 1964 Austin Healey Sprite
References: <8CAD78015F83BD0-BA8-2612@WEBMAIL-DF06.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <857EB131-945B-4CDE-996A-6FD46D8E54C1@verizon.net>

Received this from AHSTC email today. NO FI.


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/


> We have a 1964 Austin Healey Sprite for Sale.  My husband can no  
> longer drive and we are moving Aug. 24th out of state.  It is dark  
> green with cream racing stripes.  Engine rebuilt in the 90s.  It has  
> a brake issue.  Garage Kept.  We are asking $5500 or best offer.  If  
> you know of anyone interested, please contact me.  Thanks for your  
> time.
>
> Jean Zonarich
> 880 Dunkle Street
> Enhaut PA  17113
> 717 421-3959
> Get the MapQuest Toolbar. Directions, Traffic, Gas Prices & More!

From barry.lacy at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 18:15:16 2008
From: barry.lacy at comcast.net (Barry Lacy)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:15:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
Message-ID: <837DEAD54F854B03ADEEBFC92786AFED@TK421>

http://tinyurl.com/6qpdtb

Looks like you're buggered mate!
Ave retail is over $17k!!!!



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values


> So, does anyone know a website where I can go for "fair market values" of 
> a
> 1960 Bugeye that has been forever banished from the ranks of concours?
> David Lieb
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Aug 28 18:20:20 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:20:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
References: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
Message-ID: <1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>

Hello David,


     i did a search for "collector car values" on google and turned up
     the NADA blue books sight for them.


     it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high retail 26,000



     yer screwed!

     http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-0-5003-502-504-56858&l=1&w=22&p=1&f=5004

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Circular Definition: see Definition, Circular. 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 28 18:42:35 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:42:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
Message-ID: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>

I just had an eye-opening experience with a 1980 Brit car. Yes it was, an
MGB, not a Spridget but I'd guess the rubber fuel line is the same if yours
is original.

We were working on the end of the fuel line that connects to the out tube
from the gas tank. The end was held on with an American hose clamp from
about five years ago, but the hose end was bone hard. I cut end off plus a
bit more. Put the it back on and tightened the hose clamp. Off he drove with
me following. Parked in front of his house, a mile later, and fuel was
running out from that connection; the line had split. 

We were able to get it to my garage and staunch the flow. The whole hose was
bad because of the age, and there was no interior reinforcement .like the
webbing you find in fuel line bought at flaps. So, you might consider
replacing your existing (probably still original 5/8-inch) rubber fuel line
with something newer. .ask for fuel line. .bill in oregon

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 28 18:57:26 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
Message-ID: <244889.23233.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Seriously? I thought it was $50 sales tax in IL (at least here) for anything over a certain age (not sure what that age is, but I always hit it with my cars.


--- On Thu, 8/28/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:

> From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, August 28, 2008, 6:39 PM
> I guess I should feel complimented... I just had the
> privilege of picking up 
> a registered letter at the Post Office. The State of
> Illinois is telling me 
> that I lied to them when I registered the Bugeye. According
> to them, they 
> have "completed an independant valuation of the
> vehicle" (without ever 
> seeing it, of course) and determined that it must nbe worth
> $15,000 to 
> $19,999.99 so I must owe them $814 of additional tax,
> penalty, and interest. 
> I wonder if they would like to buy it at their own value
> instead??? This is 
> going to be fun? NOT!
> David Lieb 
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> 
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Aug 28 19:05:17 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:05:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>
References: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
	<1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <00c601c90973$4ee46610$ecad3230$@com>

Dave, isn't it based on your bill of sale? An affidavit from previous owner
might help. Moving to Wisco solves everything.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Bill L
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:20 PM
To: David Lieb
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values

Hello David,


     i did a search for "collector car values" on google and turned up
     the NADA blue books sight for them.


     it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high retail 26,000



     yer screwed!

 
http://www.nadaguides.com/default.aspx?LI=1-22-0-5003-502-504-56858&l=1&w=22
&p=1&f=5004

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 19:06:19 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:06:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
	<1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAA4DC4D92674766A568CD6D50586CC5@midget>

>     i did a search for "collector car values" on google and turned up
>     the NADA blue books sight for them.
>
>     it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high retail 26,000
>
>     yer screwed!

But it clearly states :"When determining a value for a daily driver, it is 
recommended that the subscriber use the low retail value."
I would be willing to believe that it might be worth as much as $10G, but no 
more than that. Maybe they will buy it off me for $20G?
David Lieb 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 28 19:09:59 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:09:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <149381.31223.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Thu, 8/28/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>      it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high
> retail 26,000

Ladies and Gentlemen,
All my cars are now officially for sale!!! All are in excellent conditionm all priced 10% NADA!!! That's right, 10% off!

1978 Alfa Romeo Spider - $14,100
1970 Mg Midget - $14,000
1960 AH Sprite - $23,400
1958 AH Sprite Race car - offers

The restored 1964 Jaguar I've been mulling over is a mere $125,000 NADA. What are the odds of the owner asking nearly $100,000 less than NADA?

Ron

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 19:20:47 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:20:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <244889.23233.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BF116166A6A344B098E2EBB9AD247B15@midget>

> Seriously? I thought it was $50 sales tax in IL (at least here) for 
> anything over a certain age (not sure what that age is, but I always hit 
> it with my cars.

It is $25 for anything over 11 years old AND under $15,000. I have never 
bought a Spridget that did not qualify. They are telling me that it falls 
into the 15 to 20G category. $750 tax, plus $73 late payment penalty, plus 
$16 of interest, minus the $25 that I did pay. I am so glad I did not pick 
this up on Friday, it would have ruined my whole weekend. Still might, 
depending on what they say tomorrow. I have the bank copy of my cancelled 
check and I have asked Crash if he can get me a bill of sale, since I did 
not bother with one since I had transferred the title before I ever saw the 
car; flew out there with the new plates. I am not going to go down quietly!
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 28 20:54:13 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:54:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [Mgs] Phil Hill
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEHNCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

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From:
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:21 PM
To:  MG List
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Phil Hill


Nice memoir by Denise McCluggage -

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080828/FREE/808289987/1
024/rss01&rssfeed=rss01

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Aug 28 19:58:32 2008
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
Message-ID: <20080829015826.49B2D18763E@autox.team.net>

I resent that comment?  I was always very careful to not cut or destroy the
main body parts of that car.  While it may be a long way from concourse it
could be done with the replacement of a couple of parts, well, ok most of
the parts.
		Crash


So, does anyone know a website where I can go for "fair market values" of a 
1960 Bugeye that has been forever banished from the ranks of concours?
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 28 20:58:52 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:58:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BF116166A6A344B098E2EBB9AD247B15@midget>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNKEHNCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<It is $25 for anything over 11 years old AND under $15,000.>>

Crash's BoS 'should' take care of it, David.  I double checked on the same
very thing PRIOR to me & Willy going to CA to p/u the Camino!!

Ed

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Aug 28 20:09:09 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:09:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <CAA4DC4D92674766A568CD6D50586CC5@midget>
References: <EA9F199CF85C4643AF56C9595D4F15E9@midget>
	<1766739558.20080828172020@pacifier.com>
	<CAA4DC4D92674766A568CD6D50586CC5@midget>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0808281909y33b3e6dbh736ae25c26d2e0d@mail.gmail.com>

David,

Get a bunch of pictures of the Holy Spirite and submit them as evidence of
condition. Tell them that you have been working on it...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Thu Aug 28 20:11:30 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:11:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <E1KYtG2-00071Q-GQ@box6.bluehost.com>
Message-ID: <C736E29DD4844ADD841DDCD1B0650203@midget>

OK, not "forever", but it would never be considered a collector car with a 
godless japanese transmission in it ;-) And it has the wrong engine and 
those later HS2 carbs and disk brakes for cri-eye! All the good stuff that 
takes away concours points (thank goodness). Of course it is a better car, 
but that does NOT make it a 17G car. I would like to know where NADA came up 
with 26G as a "high retail value" while clearly stating "Note: This value 
does not represent a "100 Point" or "# 1" vehicle *." Of course, they also 
list the only potential option for the car being a "Factory Hardtop BN7"...
David Lieb 

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Aug 28 20:15:54 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:15:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
References: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
Message-ID: <31E89D50775A4C8CB9B5481393CDB8E6@personal>

Ask for injector fuel line.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line


>I just had an eye-opening experience with a 1980 Brit car. Yes it was, an
> MGB, not a Spridget but I'd guess the rubber fuel line is the same if 
> yours
> is original.
>
> We were working on the end of the fuel line that connects to the out tube
> from the gas tank. The end was held on with an American hose clamp from
> about five years ago, but the hose end was bone hard. I cut end off plus a
> bit more. Put the it back on and tightened the hose clamp. Off he drove 
> with
> me following. Parked in front of his house, a mile later, and fuel was
> running out from that connection; the line had split.
>
> We were able to get it to my garage and staunch the flow. The whole hose 
> was
> bad because of the age, and there was no interior reinforcement .like the
> webbing you find in fuel line bought at flaps. So, you might consider
> replacing your existing (probably still original 5/8-inch) rubber fuel 
> line
> with something newer. .ask for fuel line. .bill in oregon
> _______________________________________________
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Thu Aug 28 20:21:20 2008
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:21:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves
Message-ID: <c41.419df679.35e8b720@aol.com>

The topic of ignition timing and advance curves is of great interest to me.  
Where in the U.S. is there a good source to have a standard Lucas dizzy curved 
 to optimize performance for a given engine spec? I had one done for a 
B-series  engine back in the stone ages, and although the guy who did it is still  
around, the place and probably the dizzy machine are long gone. 
Howard Collins 
Virginia Beach, VA.



**************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.      
(http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 28 21:36:50 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:36:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <C736E29DD4844ADD841DDCD1B0650203@midget>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEIPCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<"Factory Hardtop BN7"...>>

And a BN-7 HT would cover an entire Frogeye, David!!!!	LOL

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 20:38:30 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:38:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
References: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
Message-ID: <48B76126.3090305@comcast.net>

Was the tax not paid on that car when it was first sold?
Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?
They did that to me when I bought a BMW, I sent them a letter saying it 
needed an engine, trans, and the interior was burned out.
They gave up on me.
Then I sold the car to my father for a buck. They did the same to him, 
he told them to pound salt too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Aug 28 21:38:21 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:38:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <31E89D50775A4C8CB9B5481393CDB8E6@personal>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEIPCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Ask for injector fuel line.>>

TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>

FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 20:46:37 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:46:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
References: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
Message-ID: <48B7630D.2020407@comcast.net>

I put all new fuel hose on the 58 last year when I restored it.
This Spring, that car had serious fuel issues. Black crap in the carbs, 
and the filters were filthy.
Now the car had under 1000 miles on it and the tank was clean when I 
installed it.
The *new* rubber hose was melting from the inside and clogging 
everything up.
Probably chinese rubber as I just bought a few feet from where ever.
Now I use only VW cloth covered 5 mm hose, you don't even need a clamp 
on it.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Aug 28 20:51:21 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves
In-Reply-To: <c41.419df679.35e8b720@aol.com>
Message-ID: <889705.77601.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Where in the U.S. is there a good source to have a standard
> Lucas dizzy curved 
>  to optimize performance for a given engine spec? I had one
> done for a 

Advanced Distributors, www.advanceddistributors.com; Jeff Schlemmer.

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Aug 28 20:53:44 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:53:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <48B7630D.2020407@comcast.net>
References: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
	<48B7630D.2020407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DA82963054064A02842E97AE36F2CF32@spider>

I have had this happen several times when I was not careful with the line I
was using. Most line now is labeled as Fuel if meant to be used as such.
I've had good luck with NAPA. ...bill in oregon
=========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:47 PM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

I put all new fuel hose on the 58 last year when I restored it.
This Spring, that car had serious fuel issues. Black crap in the carbs, 
and the filters were filthy.
Now the car had under 1000 miles on it and the tank was clean when I 
installed it.
The *new* rubber hose was melting from the inside and clogging 
everything up.
Probably chinese rubber as I just bought a few feet from where ever.
Now I use only VW cloth covered 5 mm hose, you don't even need a clamp 
on it.

Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Aug 28 21:09:55 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:09:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves
In-Reply-To: <c41.419df679.35e8b720@aol.com>
References: <c41.419df679.35e8b720@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1117142525.20080828200955@pacifier.com>

Hello Miniac7,

     here..

     http://www.advanceddistributors.com/

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I want to date other women," said Tom unsteadily.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Aug 28 21:16:41 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:16:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts
Message-ID: <48B76A19.6070005@comcast.net>

Everybody who donated towing,  parts, or money ($50 or more) towards the 
Holy Sprite
Please email me with what size shirt you want and where to send it.
Many donations came via Paypal and most did not mention a shirt size or 
address.
I guess I could get the address from Paypal but if you towed, sent or 
are sending parts, or sent money,
let me know what size and where it goes.
I was in touch with my Dad and he is placing a shirt order so he needs 
to know.
I will have a few extras made just in case you want to send $ for a good 
cause.
Thanks.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Thu Aug 28 21:23:54 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:23:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
References: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEIPCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <0F2688900AE64EE5988B22C59998588A@personal>

Really, three feet did the whole car.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Jack Laird" <jlaird237 at cox.net>; <corvallis at peoplepc.com>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line


> <<Ask for injector fuel line.>>
>
> TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>
>
> FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!
>
>


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From davriker at nwi.net  Thu Aug 28 23:01:46 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:01:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <149381.31223.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <565EAC53C9624DEE8B2977613BDE8868@dave>

You may be joking about it now, but you are going to NEED those values if 
you are ever involved in an accident and are trying to get FAIR value to 
make needed repairs.  Recent experience says that paying $800 tax would be 
like getting an appraisal that would be hard for an insurance company to 
argue with.  You can't have it both ways..........

David
Customized MG Midget appraised at $14,500.
Thank GOD!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values


> -- On Thu, 8/28/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>>      it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high
>> retail 26,000
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> All my cars are now officially for sale!!! All are in excellent conditionm 
> all priced 10% NADA!!! That's right, 10% off!
>
> 1978 Alfa Romeo Spider - $14,100
> 1970 Mg Midget - $14,000
> 1960 AH Sprite - $23,400
> 1958 AH Sprite Race car - offers
>
> The restored 1964 Jaguar I've been mulling over is a mere $125,000 NADA. 
> What are the odds of the owner asking nearly $100,000 less than NADA?
>
> Ron

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Aug 29 00:01:39 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:01:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Phil Hill
In-Reply-To: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
References: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry>
Message-ID: <48B790C3.7020407@wi.net>

Sigh, another HERO gone.  Unlike many of today's drivers he was a 
gentleman and a class act.  He walked into the paddock area at Road 
America, where my son was working on a Brabham I nodded and said hello 
and he winked at me in acknowledgment and went straight for Adam.  He 
shook Adam's hand and they talked for about 5 minutes and he autographed 
a metal Ferrari shield Adam had just purchased.  He told Adam what a 
responsibility the guys with the wrenches have.  Today that shield is 
hanging in a place of honor.

A couple of years later we ran into him at Indy for the USGP.  We were 
walking one way and the Hills the other.  As we past each other we 
nodded and Phil said, "You're the Brabham man!"  Amazing.  I told Adam 
today by phone and there was silence for a moment and then he summed up 
my feelings with one word, "Damn!"  Yup, we lost a good one.  Thanks 
Phil.  I bet he's finally telling off Enzo for all those years he had to 
put up with the man's tirades.

Anyone know if Paul Newman has improved?

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI


Larry Daniels wrote:
> Phil Hill died this morning of respiratory problems and Parkinson's.  He was
> 81.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6pd5tw

From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Aug 29 01:35:07 2008
From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:35:07 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BF116166A6A344B098E2EBB9AD247B15@midget>
Message-ID: <4DF0AE635DE24385A16BE31D829323B1@GuyLaptop>

David,
I have no idea from the UK how these things work, but can you deduct
"delivery" from the price (or their valuation)

I seem to recall that you paid someone to fly to CA to collect the car, and
then drive it back overland. I believe they even had to take a co-driver
with them because of the distance involved and the state limits on the hours
an individual is allowed to drive in a day. Then there was fuel, motel
expenses....
Can't have been cheap!

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: 29 August 2008 02:21
To: soavero at yahoo.com; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values


> Seriously? I thought it was $50 sales tax in IL (at least here) for
> anything over a certain age (not sure what that age is, but I always hit
> it with my cars.

It is $25 for anything over 11 years old AND under $15,000. I have never
bought a Spridget that did not qualify. They are telling me that it falls
into the 15 to 20G category. $750 tax, plus $73 late payment penalty, plus
$16 of interest, minus the $25 that I did pay.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Aug 29 05:04:23 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:04:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Phil Hill
In-Reply-To: <48B790C3.7020407@wi.net>
References: <8EFE72BCDD244D95BA5BC7CB7F6A9D99@Larry> <48B790C3.7020407@wi.net>
Message-ID: <002801c909c7$070e2840$152a78c0$@com>

My wife, the Striking Viking was reading Burt Levy's series of 50's racing
books, starting with "The Last Open Road". Burt weaves fictional characters
with some of racing's true heroes through road racing's early history. 

A few years ago, we were walking the paddock at Road America, and over in
the vendor section, Phil was signing books or posters. I said to her,
"there's Phil Hill. I've met him a few times over the years." She turns to
me and says, "He's real? I thought he was just another character in the
book???".

We've had a good laugh over that every time his name has come up. 

-----Original Message-----
From: mgs-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:mgs-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David
Woerpel
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:02 AM
To: MGs
Cc: Spridgets List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Phil Hill

Sigh, another HERO gone.  Unlike many of today's drivers he was a 
gentleman and a class act.  He walked into the paddock area at Road 
America, where my son was working on a Brabham I nodded and said hello 
and he winked at me in acknowledgment and went straight for Adam.  He 
shook Adam's hand and they talked for about 5 minutes and he autographed 
a metal Ferrari shield Adam had just purchased.  He told Adam what a 
responsibility the guys with the wrenches have.  Today that shield is 
hanging in a place of honor.

A couple of years later we ran into him at Indy for the USGP.  We were 
walking one way and the Hills the other.  As we past each other we 
nodded and Phil said, "You're the Brabham man!"  Amazing.  I told Adam 
today by phone and there was silence for a moment and then he summed up 
my feelings with one word, "Damn!"  Yup, we lost a good one.  Thanks 
Phil.  I bet he's finally telling off Enzo for all those years he had to 
put up with the man's tirades.

Anyone know if Paul Newman has improved?

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI

From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com  Fri Aug 29 06:07:46 2008
From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:07:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
Message-ID: <31806531.1220011666870.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I think pretty much that NADA is not even in touch with reality!  That is even being easy on 'em.  I rarely see a Bugeye sell above $12K and I watch them constantly.  I think the NADA is being paid off by tax offices to make these outrageous book prices.

Mike C

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Aug 28, 2008 9:09 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
>
>-- On Thu, 8/28/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>>      it gives low retail, 6,200, average 17,300 and high
>> retail 26,000
>
>Ladies and Gentlemen,
>All my cars are now officially for sale!!! All are in excellent conditionm all priced 10% NADA!!! That's right, 10% off!
>
>1978 Alfa Romeo Spider - $14,100
>1970 Mg Midget - $14,000
>1960 AH Sprite - $23,400
>1958 AH Sprite Race car - offers
>
>The restored 1964 Jaguar I've been mulling over is a mere $125,000 NADA. What are the odds of the owner asking nearly $100,000 less than NADA?
>
>Ron


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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Aug 29 06:59:52 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:59:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now:
 DemiseofAuto Industry
In-Reply-To: <415E8EC202B24CAFAE9E98901FFFCDE8@Home>
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com><E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
	<415E8EC202B24CAFAE9E98901FFFCDE8@Home>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921AD3@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I didn't say they were exploitive, I said they are hard to compete with.
The only harshness in my message was the implication that Americans are
whining that they can't drive their Winnebagos to the Rockies for 50
bucks worth of gas anymore. We've been blessed with extremely low energy
costs over the years, which was a competitive advantage for us. It
provided us with discretionary income to the extent that even working
class people could own several cars, a bass boat, and a widescreen TV. I
haven't seen that in Asia yet, but my kids will probably see it. Things
are shifting around now. It's going to be harder for us.

Yes, I've been to Asia.


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rowe [mailto:mdrowe at optonline.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:19 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now:
DemiseofAuto Industry

> Government regulations probably make it harder, if not impossible, for
> American industry to compete with Asian sweatshop factories.

If you have ever spent time in Asia, you would realize that, in many
places,
those sweatshop factories provide better conditions and better pay than
any
alternative available to the local people.   So let's not be too harsh.
Yes, they are tough competition, but they are not necessarily
exploitive.

Michael Rowe
Long Island, NY

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Aug 29 07:05:45 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:05:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
References: <B35E4495EAAC442AB3A03640085C9BBE@spider>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921AD4@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Gee.  You might replace the belts, hoses and tires from 1980 while
you're at it.



-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:43 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

I just had an eye-opening experience with a 1980 Brit car. Yes it was,
an
MGB, not a Spridget but I'd guess the rubber fuel line is the same if
yours
is original.

We were working on the end of the fuel line that connects to the out
tube
from the gas tank. The end was held on with an American hose clamp from
about five years ago, but the hose end was bone hard. I cut end off plus
a
bit more. Put the it back on and tightened the hose clamp. Off he drove
with
me following. Parked in front of his house, a mile later, and fuel was
running out from that connection; the line had split.

We were able to get it to my garage and staunch the flow. The whole hose
was
bad because of the age, and there was no interior reinforcement .like
the
webbing you find in fuel line bought at flaps. So, you might consider
replacing your existing (probably still original 5/8-inch) rubber fuel
line
with something newer. .ask for fuel line. .bill in oregon

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 07:20:22 2008
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:20:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
 of Auto Industry
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <abb8688a0808290620m422b1095y8249d95c13b76c26@mail.gmail.com>

To a certain extent the governement is to blame, but the car-buying
public needs to take a share too.  Today, most consumers buy based on
price above all else.  They also buy with the idea that they are just
going to sell it off in three or four years anyway, so long term
quality and maintainability are not important.  This trend is not new,
but what we are seeing is the long term result of a consumer mentality
that is just not sustainable.  The car makers are doing everything
they can to drive cost out of the product, often at the expense of
quality.  The are also trying to make thier cars trendy and hip in
response to the latest fads.  The styling cycles for some models have
shortened to just a couple years.  Bottom line, they keep making crap,
because people keep buying it.  Cars today also don't get decent
maintenance in a lot of places either.  Around here, your choices are
the dealer, most of whom are imcompetent and crooks, or the small
independant shops, which are often not equipped to handle the latest
models, or jiffy lube.  And if your car is over 10 years old, you can
count on the manufacturer discontinuing a lot of parts that you might
need to keep it on the road.  After all, they would rather sell you a
new car anyway.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Billy is right.  Having read a lot of the history of the British car
> industry including living in that country for 6 years in the 1960s, I feel
> there are clear similarities with what is happening in this country today.
> Over-regulation and high fuel costs are killing the industry in this country
> just as it did in Britain. Unless this country wakes up very quickly big
> government taxes and regulation will drive all our industry to Asia and our
> language and customs will disappear as we transition to majority Spanish
> speaking. I hope I'm wrong form my descendants sake, but I really doubt it.
>
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
>> > MG cancels plans to bring TF to North America
>> Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be plenty of other Chinese cars to choose
>> from in the very near future.
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug 29 08:05:15 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:05:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Value
References: <E1KYt9E-00062o-Em@box6.bluehost.com>
Message-ID: <EC310FF7295A41A7BFE3E47F46185672@NilesAD.von.gov>

Well, I talked to the Illinois Department of Revenue this morning. They tell 
me that I should have submitted a signed bill of sale to the DMV when I did 
the paperwork. I never have in the past and the DMV has never asked for one, 
but I guess I will make a point of it in the future. I asked whether it 
should be notarized, and they said no. How that has any more validity than 
my writing the sale price on the form beats the heck out of me, but I don't 
make the rules, I just have to play the game.
David Lieb 

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Fri Aug 29 08:07:03 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <31806531.1220011666870.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <9733AA0A490D4C19864CEF4299D6CB72@NilesAD.von.gov>

>I think pretty much that NADA is not even in touch with reality!  That is 
>even being easy on 'em.  I rarely see a Bugeye sell above $12K and I watch 
>them constantly.  I think the NADA is being paid off by tax offices to make 
>these outrageous book prices.

I didn't look closely enough, perhaps it says that these are the starting 
price you should expect the dealer to quote before you start jawing him 
down? Certainly not the prices anybody who knows Spridgets is expecting to 
see in this decade... 

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Aug 29 08:14:31 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:14:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <31806531.1220011666870.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<9733AA0A490D4C19864CEF4299D6CB72@NilesAD.von.gov>
Message-ID: <E2DE27A693B94E228F5ED6B3E461B84D@dave>

The appraiser on my car used auction sales, ebay, and autotrader sales and 
listings, along with a detailed list of the modifications made to my car to 
come up with the fair value.  The true definition of fair, is what would a 
seller who is not under distress agree to sell the vehicle for, that a 
willing buyer would pay.
David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>; "SpridgetList" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values


> >I think pretty much that NADA is not even in touch with reality!  That is
>>even being easy on 'em.  I rarely see a Bugeye sell above $12K and I watch
>>them constantly.  I think the NADA is being paid off by tax offices to 
>>make
>>these outrageous book prices.
>
> I didn't look closely enough, perhaps it says that these are the starting
> price you should expect the dealer to quote before you start jawing him
> down? Certainly not the prices anybody who knows Spridgets is expecting to
> see in this decade...

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Aug 29 08:24:48 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:24:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
 of Auto Industry
References: <43840a7e0808271346t67a3653eybdf1249c64b1ea59@mail.gmail.com>
	<abb8688a0808290620m422b1095y8249d95c13b76c26@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D9BD6D6A5F34ADD88465C8E07D491F7@dave>

Actually, I see just the opposite.  Cars and trucks have never been of 
higher quality than they are today.  In the 1960's, the average car needed 
its front brake drums relined at 15,000 mile intervals, a valve job at 
50,000 miles, and a rebuild of the 3 speed automatic transmission at 75,000. 
Why do you think that every corner gas station switched from having service 
bays, to having snack shops?  Because of the reduced repair and maintenance 
needs of modern cars.  Compare that 1966 Malibu I just described to the 2008 
Malibu.  The new car has Disc brakes up front that probably will need the 
first set of pads at about 80,000 miles, will never need a valve job or ring 
job, has a six speed automatic transmission that never needs a fluid change. 
And the price?  Adjusted for inflation, is cheaper as a percent of annual 
income than it was in 1966.  Oh, and it gets 31 mpg on the highway instead 
of 18, and its four cylinder engine produces more horsepower than the 1966 
with a 327 V-8.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Innis" <jdinnis at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise 
of Auto Industry
  They also buy with the idea that they are just
> going to sell it off in three or four years anyway, so long term
> quality and maintainability are not important.  This trend is not new,
> but what we are seeing is the long term result of a consumer mentality
> that is just not sustainable.  The car makers are doing everything
> they can to drive cost out of the product, often at the expense of
> quality. 

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 09:19:13 2008
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (JFoster))
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:19:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <48B76126.3090305@comcast.net>
References: <3312673020244E5289CBCEEB02D9F874@midget>
	<48B76126.3090305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0808290819o51b0ec37jc4f156c5116ced5f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?
>
Frank, it almost sounds like you've never really been to Illinois.  Don't
worry though, if the DNC has their way they'll be bringing Chicago politics
to the White House.

Good luck David.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 29 09:38:34 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:38:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0808290819o51b0ec37jc4f156c5116ced5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>

money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to you, when you save 
it, when you spend it, when you give it away, and what you have left over 
when you die ... to name a few.


----Original Message Follows----

 > Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Aug 29 10:10:03 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Phil Hill
Message-ID: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net>

Interesting you should say that.  That's how my daughter first 
"discovered" Phil Hill.  Just think, future generations will "know" Phil 
through Burt's books!  Scary.

Anything new on Mary's Midget?

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 10:11:01 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:11:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
References: <8de85a9c0808290819o51b0ec37jc4f156c5116ced5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808290911l620dc712pa314413ea10342f6@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to you, when you save
> it, when you spend it, when you give it away, and what you have left over
> when you die ... to name a few.


And if at any time during that chain of events you run out of it, its called
tax
evasion and you go to jail and/or get fined more money that you don't have.

The lawyers have this set up pretty good, don't you think?  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Aug 29 10:22:05 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:22:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48B8222D.6050006@frontiernet.net>

Just look up tax in the dictionary. 

Kate
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
>
>  > Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Aug 29 10:55:13 2008
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:55:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill, now Burt Levy-reading family  members
In-Reply-To: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net>
Message-ID: <169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wow - One Spridgeteer wife and now a daughter reading Burt?  I thought I was
doing well to raise a gear-head son in today's world of video gamer kids.  You
guys rock in your ability to find spouses and ability to raise kids! 
 
My wife loves to drive fun cars and like me refuses to own anything with an
automatic (She drives a 2005 Mini Cooper).  She really isn't interested in
going with me to events or reading about cars, though.  I've always considered
myself lucky to have found her - not to mention somehow convincing her to
marry me...  Glad to see there's hope out there for my son to do as good or
better than I did.
 
By the way - I wear my "Do you know Buddy Palumbo?" button to every car show
and cruise night I attend.  Occassionally it starts a cool conversation on the
books.
 
 - David

--- On Fri, 8/29/08, David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

From: David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Phil Hill
To: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, August 29, 2008, 11:10 AM

Interesting you should say that.  That's how my daughter first
"discovered" Phil Hill.  Just think, future generations will
"know" Phil
through Burt's books!  Scary.

Anything new on Mary's Midget?

Dave
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500
Burlington WI
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Aug 29 11:01:51 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:01:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family   members
In-Reply-To: <169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net>
	<169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com>

Hell, I'm in one or two of those books.

Also, you know Burt is "the ride mooch" and drives everyone's race cars? He
drove my old Red Rat Bastard one lap at Road America and got out of it,
muttering it was the worst, most diabolic handling POS he's ever driven. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
David Booker
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:55 AM
To: SPRIDGETS; David Woerpel
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill, now Burt Levy-reading family members

Wow - One Spridgeteer wife and now a daughter reading Burt?  I thought I was
doing well to raise a gear-head son in today's world of video gamer kids.
You
guys rock in your ability to find spouses and ability to raise kids! 
 
My wife loves to drive fun cars and like me refuses to own anything with an
automatic (She drives a 2005 Mini Cooper).  She really isn't interested in
going with me to events or reading about cars, though.  I've always
considered
myself lucky to have found her - not to mention somehow convincing her to
marry me...  Glad to see there's hope out there for my son to do as good or
better than I did.
 
By the way - I wear my "Do you know Buddy Palumbo?" button to every car show
and cruise night I attend.  Occassionally it starts a cool conversation on
the
books.
 
 - David

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 29 12:22:02 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:22:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0808290819o51b0ec37jc4f156c5116ced5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEMDCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<if the DNC has their way they'll be bringing Chicago politics
to the White House.>>

AND Springfield where a certain Dem. State Senator did almost as little as
he has 'on the Hill', Jethro!!<G>

From cclabaw at juno.com  Fri Aug 29 11:26:53 2008
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:26:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
Message-ID: <20080829.102653.12796.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

Another $0.02 worth.  My engine guru swears by VW Beetle fuel line.  It's
reinforced and fabric covered.  Looks original.  Metric, but fits great.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

-- "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
<<Ask for injector fuel line.>>

TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>

FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!
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From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Fri Aug 29 11:44:48 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:44:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family    members
In-Reply-To: <008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com>
References: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net>
	<169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com>
Message-ID: <48B83590.4060909@lehigh.edu>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> Hell, I'm in one or two of those books.
>
> Also, you know Burt is "the ride mooch" and drives everyone's race cars? He
> drove my old Red Rat Bastard one lap at Road America and got out of it,
> muttering it was the worst, most diabolic handling POS he's ever driven. 
>   

WST,
What did you do? Remove the shock valves?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Aug 29 11:47:18 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:47:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family   members
In-Reply-To: <169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48B83626.2080809@frontiernet.net>

I was reading every book on sports cars (primarily British) and car 
racing that I could get my hands on when I was a kid. My poor, somewhat 
normal, mother had to content herself with teaching my brother to cook.  
I always have to call him when I am hungry for one of Mom's old recipes. 
Tonight I get to diagnose my daughter in law's Grand Cherokee, and 
probably fix it over the weekend, providing I can convince her husband 
to do the heavy work. His idea of fixing a car is taking it to the 
dealer and telling the service manager to fix it.

Kate


David Booker wrote:
> Wow - One Spridgeteer wife and now a daughter reading Burt?  

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Fri Aug 29 11:47:52 2008
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:47:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family     members
In-Reply-To: <48B83590.4060909@lehigh.edu>
References: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net>
	<169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com> <48B83590.4060909@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <000301c909ff$5f825fe0$1e871fa0$@com>

Nah, it was just a hard sprung, tail happy, nastyass POS... it was quick,
but you had to drive it so the numbers on the side were visible to those you
just passed in the corner.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
John Caffrey
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:45 PM
Cc: 'SPRIDGETS'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill, now Burt Levy-reading family members

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> Hell, I'm in one or two of those books.
>
> Also, you know Burt is "the ride mooch" and drives everyone's race cars?
He
> drove my old Red Rat Bastard one lap at Road America and got out of it,
> muttering it was the worst, most diabolic handling POS he's ever driven. 
>   

WST,
What did you do? Remove the shock valves?
John
Fogelsville, PA

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Aug 29 11:49:05 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:49:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <211745AC-FEE6-4C31-8E6A-D90C82825814@comcast.net>

.. and let's not overlook that if you own it, having paid tax to buy  
it, it's taxed again and again because of it's mere existence..

hmm..

one time flat tax...

Lester


On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

> money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to you, when you  
> save
> it, when you spend it, when you give it away, and what you have left  
> over
> when you die ... to name a few.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
>
>> Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?

Not if you are in Louisiana, it's why we have over a BILLION DOLLARS  
in surplus that the state is now trying a way to spend lest we get mad  
enough to ask for it back...  oh yeah, they want to raise our rates...

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Aug 29 12:02:40 2008
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:02:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <211745AC-FEE6-4C31-8E6A-D90C82825814@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-F37C440D6A3CB87E82A630BB8630@phx.gbl>

What?  They're taxing flats too?!?! ;)
( actually, they do tax to dispose of tires here. )

----Original Message Follows----
From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:49:05 -0500

.. and let's not overlook that if you own it, having paid tax to buy
it, it's taxed again and again because of it's mere existence..

hmm..

one time flat tax...

Lester


On Aug 29, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Robert Duquette wrote:

 > money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to you, when you
 > save
 > it, when you spend it, when you give it away, and what you have left
 > over
 > when you die ... to name a few.
 >
 >
 > ----Original Message Follows----
 >
 >> Isn't taxing something again and again something like theft?

Not if you are in Louisiana, it's why we have over a BILLION DOLLARS
in surplus that the state is now trying a way to spend lest we get mad
enough to ask for it back...  oh yeah, they want to raise our rates...
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Aug 29 12:17:58 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:17:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <0AA38D9E66B59D4B8EB25114CCA9EB7E0875D9F1@NWS-EXCH1.nws.oregonstate.edu>
References: <62D2CCFDB66648F68320CF96D7DFFB24@spider>
	<0AA38D9E66B59D4B8EB25114CCA9EB7E0875D9F1@NWS-EXCH1.nws.oregonstate.edu>
Message-ID: <A6D640C397E04E1BB0860104F0D8D3EF@spider>

My friend who lives an hour south of Portland, Oregon says:

 

This price is total nonsense.  I couldn't give that green Bugeye away for
$3,500 two years ago.  Plus several buyers from Portland passed at $6,000 on
the beautiful black one I have........brand new paint, fresh engine, new
leather, original factory hardtop, brand new windows...........  These
prices are total baloney.  I have tried several times to sell my Bugeyes at
a loss...........nobody's interested.   mc

  _____  

From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 6:29 PM
To: Carlson, Marlan
Subject: fyi Bugeye Values ...bill g

http://tinyurl.com/6qpdtb

 

Looks like you're buggered mate!

Ave retail is over $17k!!!!

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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 29 13:00:26 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:00:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <20080829.102653.12796.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00c801c90a09$80304400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

I hate to burst your engine guru's bubble, but that stuff is crap.  I've
been using the stuff on air-cooled VWs and Porsches (it's OE on both)
for more years than I care to admit to, so I'm more than a bit familiar
with it.
The trouble with the stuff is that, although it will continue to look
just fine for YEARS, the rubber dries out and develops leaks under the
fabric covering.  A whole lot of German cars (it's also OE on BMW and
M-B) have been lost to engine compartment fires of "unknown origin",
because of that stuff.  
So, if you want to use it, fine.....just be sure to replace it every
third year, or you may get a very big, very un-wanted surprise some day.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
cclabaw at juno.com
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:27 PM
To: shop at justbrits.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

Another $0.02 worth.  My engine guru swears by VW Beetle fuel line.
It's
reinforced and fabric covered.  Looks original.  Metric, but fits great.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

-- "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
<<Ask for injector fuel line.>>

TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>

FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 13:03:46 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:03:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <00c801c90a09$80304400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <20080829.102653.12796.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
	<00c801c90a09$80304400$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808291203q2be1f150qf853129ff5a8b0dd@mail.gmail.com>

Bud,

That fuel line comes on BMW motorcycles too and I have been using it for 40
some odd years (and a few even years ;-).  You just have to check it
periodically. Of course it's a lot easier on a motorcycle where it is out in
the open and obvious. The rubber eventually gets brittle but it takes years
to do so. I have it on my replace list for every 3 years on each BMW bike.
If one did the same on their Spridget they should be fine. Nothing lasts
forever...   Well.... Nothing except stupidity and THAT is permanent!!  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> I hate to burst your engine guru's bubble, but that stuff is crap.  I've
> been using the stuff on air-cooled VWs and Porsches (it's OE on both)
> for more years than I care to admit to, so I'm more than a bit familiar
> with it.
> The trouble with the stuff is that, although it will continue to look
> just fine for YEARS, the rubber dries out and develops leaks under the
> fabric covering.  A whole lot of German cars (it's also OE on BMW and
> M-B) have been lost to engine compartment fires of "unknown origin",
> because of that stuff.
> So, if you want to use it, fine.....just be sure to replace it every
> third year, or you may get a very big, very un-wanted surprise some day.
> Bud Osbourne
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz <spridgets-bounces%2Babcoz>=hky.com@
> autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> cclabaw at juno.com
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:27 PM
> To: shop at justbrits.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
>
> Another $0.02 worth.  My engine guru swears by VW Beetle fuel line.
> It's
> reinforced and fabric covered.  Looks original.  Metric, but fits great.
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite
>
> -- "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> <<Ask for injector fuel line.>>
>
> TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>
>
> FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 29 13:20:49 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:20:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808291203q2be1f150qf853129ff5a8b0dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00d001c90a0c$58626ae0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Jim,
More recently, the stuff dries out/gets brittle a lot sooner than it
used to, back in the day.   I dont know whether its due to a change
in the formula of the rubber, or a change in the gasoline formula (or a
combination of the two).   But, if you change it every third year, you
should be fine.
 My point (which I didnt make very clearly) is: since its not original
on MGs (BMC/BL products in general), why not use something of better
durability, that is correct for the car (like Petro-Flex)?
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 2:04 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: cclabaw at juno.com; shop at justbrits.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

Bud,

That fuel line comes on BMW motorcycles too and I have been using it for
40 some odd years (and a few even years ;-).  You just have to check it
periodically. Of course it's a lot easier on a motorcycle where it is
out in the open and obvious. The rubber eventually gets brittle but it
takes years to do so. I have it on my replace list for every 3 years on
each BMW bike. If one did the same on their Spridget they should be
fine. Nothing lasts forever...   Well.... Nothing except stupidity and
THAT is permanent!!  ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
I hate to burst your engine guru's bubble, but that stuff is crap.  I've
been using the stuff on air-cooled VWs and Porsches (it's OE on both)
for more years than I care to admit to, so I'm more than a bit familiar
with it.
The trouble with the stuff is that, although it will continue to look
just fine for YEARS, the rubber dries out and develops leaks under the
fabric covering.  A whole lot of German cars (it's also OE on BMW and
M-B) have been lost to engine compartment fires of "unknown origin",
because of that stuff.
So, if you want to use it, fine.....just be sure to replace it every
third year, or you may get a very big, very un-wanted surprise some day.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz <mailto:spridgets-bounces%2Babcoz>
=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
cclabaw at juno.com
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 12:27 PM
To: shop at justbrits.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

Another $0.02 worth.  My engine guru swears by VW Beetle fuel line.
It's
reinforced and fabric covered.  Looks original.  Metric, but fits great.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

-- "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
<<Ask for injector fuel line.>>

TOO expensive, Jack!!<VBG>

FUEL line (also reinforced) is cheaper<G>!!
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From nory1 at adelphia.net  Fri Aug 29 14:34:23 2008
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:34:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <A6D640C397E04E1BB0860104F0D8D3EF@spider>
References: <62D2CCFDB66648F68320CF96D7DFFB24@spider>
	<0AA38D9E66B59D4B8EB25114CCA9EB7E0875D9F1@NWS-EXCH1.nws.oregonstate.edu>
	<A6D640C397E04E1BB0860104F0D8D3EF@spider>
Message-ID: <A14A90C0-E9DA-4E8C-96BA-EA72C3C92644@adelphia.net>

Well, if I could find a Bugeye like that for $6000 around here, I'd  
pounce on it!


On Aug 29, 2008, at 2:17 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com>  
<corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

>  Plus several buyers from Portland passed at $6,000 on
> the beautiful black one I have........brand new paint, fresh  
> engine, new
> leather, original factory hardtop, brand new windows...........

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Fri Aug 29 15:00:30 2008
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:00:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family    members
In-Reply-To: <008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com>
References: <48B81F5B.1080506@wi.net><169414.17766.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<008201c909f8$f10fbe50$d32f3af0$@com>
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ADC@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Hey!  That's what Donato said about MY car!
I didn't realize he was plagiarizing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wsthompson at thicko.com]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:02 PM
To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com; 'SPRIDGETS'; 'David Woerpel'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill, now Burt Levy-reading family
members

Hell, I'm in one or two of those books.

Also, you know Burt is "the ride mooch" and drives everyone's race cars?
He
drove my old Red Rat Bastard one lap at Road America and got out of it,
muttering it was the worst, most diabolic handling POS he's ever driven.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of
David Booker
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:55 AM
To: SPRIDGETS; David Woerpel
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill, now Burt Levy-reading family
members

Wow - One Spridgeteer wife and now a daughter reading Burt?  I thought I
was
doing well to raise a gear-head son in today's world of video gamer
kids.
You
guys rock in your ability to find spouses and ability to raise kids!

My wife loves to drive fun cars and like me refuses to own anything with
an
automatic (She drives a 2005 Mini Cooper).  She really isn't interested
in
going with me to events or reading about cars, though.  I've always
considered
myself lucky to have found her - not to mention somehow convincing her
to
marry me...  Glad to see there's hope out there for my son to do as good
or
better than I did.

By the way - I wear my "Do you know Buddy Palumbo?" button to every car
show
and cruise night I attend.  Occassionally it starts a cool conversation
on
the
books.

 - David

From jfisher3 at fast.net  Fri Aug 29 15:14:02 2008
From: jfisher3 at fast.net (jfisher3 at fast.net)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:14:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
Message-ID: <001901c90a1c$2a502fb0$7ef08f10$@net>

FWIW 
For the first time, I recently gave in to several forces and had some cars
appraised by a very reputable agent, engaged through a car club. I just got
the results today.

My 59 Bugeye with a 1275, 5 speed, disc brakes, roll bar and some other
goodies was appraised at $25000.

My good driver quality 4 speed 69 Z28 Camaro was appraised at $38,000.

My guesses were exactly $10000 off, in two different directions!
 
Of course nothing changes, they are worth what someone will pay for them.  I
think my "guesses" are closer to reality.

Does anyone think he checked the NADA guide?

John Fisher

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 29 15:17:14 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:17:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts
References: <48B76A19.6070005@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <70C97A5A122F47A388B94E540D21E9D6@Larry>

Frank, I need another t-shirt like a hole in the head.  Just apply all the 
money to the car.

Larry



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:16 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts


Everybody who donated towing,  parts, or money ($50 or more) towards the
Holy Sprite
Please email me with what size shirt you want and where to send it.
Many donations came via Paypal and most did not mention a shirt size or
address.
I guess I could get the address from Paypal but if you towed, sent or
are sending parts, or sent money,
let me know what size and where it goes.
I was in touch with my Dad and he is placing a shirt order so he needs
to know.
I will have a few extras made just in case you want to send $ for a good
cause.
Thanks.

-- 
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Toms River, NJ
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 15:41:30 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:41:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <001901c90a1c$2a502fb0$7ef08f10$@net>
References: <001901c90a1c$2a502fb0$7ef08f10$@net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808291441m37d6ac3dv8a7ce88e2e021d14@mail.gmail.com>

No offense intended, but the answer to your question is yes. If the Team
Sprite car only got 22K for an absolute period correct car, with a reputable
auction house selling it, I cannot see how the appraiser could justify those
numbers. Unless he cheated.

Brad
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:14 PM, <jfisher3 at fast.net> wrote:

> FWIW
>
> Does anyone think he checked the NADA guide?
>
> John Fisher
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 15:42:45 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts
In-Reply-To: <70C97A5A122F47A388B94E540D21E9D6@Larry>
References: <48B76A19.6070005@comcast.net>
	<70C97A5A122F47A388B94E540D21E9D6@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808291442h46b76d6dv32a80510d0bf87e9@mail.gmail.com>

Great idea, Larry...   Could I get my T-shirt AND another hole in my head??
Every time I go out to the garage to do something on the Midget I realize
that not quite all of my brains have drained out onto the floor with the
puddle of oil.....  One more hole might do the trick and leave me standing
over the tool bench with my eyes not quite focused and drool running out the
side of my mouth....

How can you tell when your deck is level?  Have a Spridgeteer stand on it
and see if the drool runs out of both sides of his mouth.   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Frank, I need another t-shirt like a hole in the head.  Just apply all the
> money to the car.
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:16 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts
>
>
> Everybody who donated towing,  parts, or money ($50 or more) towards the
> Holy Sprite
> Please email me with what size shirt you want and where to send it.
> Many donations came via Paypal and most did not mention a shirt size or
> address.
> I guess I could get the address from Paypal but if you towed, sent or
> are sending parts, or sent money,
> let me know what size and where it goes.
> I was in touch with my Dad and he is placing a shirt order so he needs
> to know.
> I will have a few extras made just in case you want to send $ for a good
> cause.
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug 29 15:43:58 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:43:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <00d001c90a0c$58626ae0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
References: <00d001c90a0c$58626ae0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <48B86D9E.103@comcast.net>

Bud Osbourne wrote:
>  that is correct for the car (like Petro-Flex)?
>
>   
But that stuff does the same thing, the rubber drys out under the metal 
and it leaks.
Like any fuel line, fan belt, or hose, 5 years MAX.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 29 15:51:35 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:51:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts
References: <48B76A19.6070005@comcast.net>
	<70C97A5A122F47A388B94E540D21E9D6@Larry>
	<43840a7e0808291442h46b76d6dv32a80510d0bf87e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <842AD3C79BCB475C8F256A77CD9ACEFC@Larry>

LOL  As my bald spot becomes ever larger, I find the lack of padding is cause
for more dents, scrapes and holes in my head than ever before.

LAD



----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Johnson
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Frank Clarici ; Spridgets
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts


Great idea, Larry...   Could I get my T-shirt AND another hole in my head??
Every time I go out to the garage to do something on the Midget I realize that
not quite all of my brains have drained out onto the floor with the puddle of
oil.....  One more hole might do the trick and leave me standing over the tool
bench with my eyes not quite focused and drool running out the side of my
mouth....

How can you tell when your deck is level?  Have a Spridgeteer stand on it and
see if the drool runs out of both sides of his mouth.   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim


On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

  Frank, I need another t-shirt like a hole in the head.  Just apply all the
  money to the car.

  Larry




  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
  To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:16 PM
  Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite shirts


  Everybody who donated towing,  parts, or money ($50 or more) towards the
  Holy Sprite
  Please email me with what size shirt you want and where to send it.
  Many donations came via Paypal and most did not mention a shirt size or
  address.
  I guess I could get the address from Paypal but if you towed, sent or
  are sending parts, or sent money,
  let me know what size and where it goes.
  I was in touch with my Dad and he is placing a shirt order so he needs
  to know.
  I will have a few extras made just in case you want to send $ for a good
  cause.
  Thanks.

  --
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  Toms River, NJ

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From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Fri Aug 29 16:13:19 2008
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:13:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?
Message-ID: <001f01c90a24$724f7480$6501a8c0@Inspiron>

I had a friend who sold his 1960 Bugeye at auction last year in Hilton Head.
He got $25.000 for car, the car was concours silver, some lady with deep
pockets fell in love with the car, and had to have it.

So Dave, it sounds like your car is right up there.

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Aug 29 16:19:36 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:19:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?
In-Reply-To: <001f01c90a24$724f7480$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
References: <001f01c90a24$724f7480$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <48B875F8.5040605@comcast.net>

Greg Higgins wrote:
> I had a friend who sold his 1960 Bugeye at auction last year in Hilton Head.
> He got $25.000 for car, 
Where are these people when I sell a Bugeye?
I get about 1/3rd of that.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 29 18:03:54 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:03:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <48B86D9E.103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00e501c90a33$e51d91e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

While I couldn't agree more with you on 5 years MAX for fuel lines,
belts & coolant hose, I find that the Petro-Flex stuff seems to hold up
much better than the VW (actually produced by Continental) hose does
(although I make a habit of replacing that stuff every few years, too).
Fuel hose is just too inexpensive to justify trying for maximum service
life out of it.
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 4:44 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: 'Jim Johnson'; spridgets at autox.team.net; shop at justbrits.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

Bud Osbourne wrote:
>  that is correct for the car (like Petro-Flex)?
>
>   
But that stuff does the same thing, the rubber dries out under the metal

and it leaks.
Like any fuel line, fan belt, or hose, 5 years MAX.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dmg at bossig.com  Fri Aug 29 18:24:19 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:24:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Labor Day weekend...
Message-ID: <48B830C3.22165.25FD894@dmg.bossig.com>

Happy and Safe Labor Day Weekend to one and all...

Let's be careful out there, OK??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Aug 29 19:59:06 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:59:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
References: <00e501c90a33$e51d91e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>
Message-ID: <4DBBEF5D19004AD18A210F7CEF36634F@Larry>

Fuel hose is just too inexpensive to justify trying for maximum service
life out of it.
Bud Osbourne

========================

That's the smartest thing I've heard in this whole discussion.

LAD


P.S. Bud, you owe me another beer.  ;-))

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Aug 29 20:05:44 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tach question, pos earth 66 MK3 1098
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808291442h46b76d6dv32a80510d0bf87e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080830020547.OMLM4606.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi-

I've got a head scratcher here.  I pretty much have my engine running right
for now (fun runs around the block) but I cannot get my tach to work.
Thinking it was possibly broken, I tried an alternative with the right
polarity and still no go.

The stock tach does jump when I turn the key but does nothing after it
starts. 

Is there a wire crossed somewhere?  Even connecting my old tach to the coil
I got nothing, and I can confirm the engine was running.

Chris

66 MKIII 
Brookfield, WI

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 29 21:12:20 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808291441m37d6ac3dv8a7ce88e2e021d14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEONCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<...If the Team
Sprite car only got 22K for an absolute period correct car,...>

Brad, sorry but that statement is absolutely incorrect.  Brian (the teacher)
even said so PRIOR to the car being picked up by the transportation co.

Add the FACT that RM STRESSED 'the girl's project, etc.' lead to
a LOT of emotion going on while car was 'on the block'.

Sorry<G>!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Aug 29 21:20:17 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:20:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <48B86D9E.103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEONCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Like any fuel line, fan belt, or hose, 5 years MAX.>>

1st, WHAT are you guy 'arguing' about??  You mean you leave brake fluid
in the system without doing anything for (let's say) 10 years??  Doubt it.

2nd, my point to START with was that just plain ole Fuel Hose is just fine
and CHEAPER than 'fuel injection hose'(Jack).

Around THIS area, I have found that the PetroFlex DOES last longer, just not
5 years<G>!!

Can't (and won't>G?) comment on Frank's pet VW stuff because I have NOT
tried it.  I would however, tend to think NOTHING is gonna last long (40
years) due to the fuel "formulations"<VBF>!!!

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 29 20:27:42 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:27:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <4DBBEF5D19004AD18A210F7CEF36634F@Larry>
Message-ID: <00ef01c90a47$fb7d04c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Another beer?  Don't I get credit for making the smartest statement of
this whole discussion?
Well, I'm easy to get beer from, but you'll have to show up at Watkins
Glen, next week, to collect (you too, RD).  Or, you could come to the
Pittsburgh Vintage GP next July ;)
Bud Osbourne
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 8:59 PM
To: Bud Osbourne
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line


Fuel hose is just too inexpensive to justify trying for maximum service
life out of it.
Bud Osbourne

========================

That's the smartest thing I've heard in this whole discussion.

LAD


P.S. Bud, you owe me another beer.  ;-))

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Aug 29 20:32:34 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:32:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNGEONCPAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <00f001c90a48$a8f7b960$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

I wasn't aware we were arguing, actually.  I was under the impression
that we were just having a friendly discussion and trying to share our
experiences in the interest of better-maintained Spridgets :)
Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed's Shop [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:20 PM
To: Frank Clarici; Bud Osbourne
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] oem (original 1980) fuel line

<<Like any fuel line, fan belt, or hose, 5 years MAX.>>

1st, WHAT are you guy 'arguing' about??  You mean you leave brake fluid
in the system without doing anything for (let's say) 10 years??  Doubt
it.

2nd, my point to START with was that just plain ole Fuel Hose is just
fine
and CHEAPER than 'fuel injection hose'(Jack).

Around THIS area, I have found that the PetroFlex DOES last longer, just
not
5 years<G>!!

Can't (and won't>G?) comment on Frank's pet VW stuff because I have NOT
tried it.  I would however, tend to think NOTHING is gonna last long (40
years) due to the fuel "formulations"<VBF>!!!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Aug 29 20:46:53 2008
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:46:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
References: <31806531.1220011666870.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FDE26D25B59849EDB9E8729734E63B64@blackbox2>

It's really about the true cost of restoration.
This has gone up due to inflation.

It would be a tragedy for us devalue our cars or our efforts by thinking in terms of dollar value 15 years ago.

And if those $12k Bugeyes you see are good examples and are well restored, then they might be worth jumping on.
I've seen your car Mike, and I know you have more than that in "TLC invested" alone.

The sorry state of affairs is a dollar does not go as far as it used to.

In any case I think the gentleman from Chicago had it right when he said that the true value of your car is the
"fun factor", that is, the enjoyment you get when you fire it up and go somewhere with it, or even the pleasure of working on it.
Thankfully this value is hard to quantify.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" <mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values


>I think pretty much that NADA is not even in touch with reality!  That is even being easy on 'em.  I rarely see a Bugeye sell above 
>$12K and I watch them constantly.  I think the NADA is being paid off by tax offices to make these outrageous book prices.
>
> Mike C

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Aug 29 21:44:59 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:44:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
Message-ID: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

           Went to "Noggins and Natter" tonite to pick up my packet
           for the ABFM. When i sent in my registration, in the blank
           where it says "club affiliation" i wrote

           SPRITE MIDGET CLUB USA


           I'll be dipped if they didn't put it on my windscreen
           placard!  too cool.

           Am I the first to be so officially reccgnized?  anyone else
           doing this yet..

           I'm so excited i can barely spit!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Taglines are the restroom wall of the Net. 

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Aug 29 21:47:17 2008
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:47:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise
 of Auto Industry
References: <598675.75491.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <590B290F3EB543EE8E4B5D47729E3EB4@dave>

"Prior to the 1972 model year American automakers rated their engines in 
terms of SAE gross horsepower (defined under SAE standards J245 and J1995). 
Gross hp was measured using a blueprinted test engine running on a stand 
without accessories, air cleaner, mufflers, or emissions control devices and 
sometimes fitted with long tube "test headers" in lieu of the OEM exhaust 
manifolds. The atmospheric correction standard (e.g. barometric pressure, 
humidity and temperature) that was utilized in obtaining the Gross ratings 
was more idealistic than that which is used under the SAE net rating system. 
The resulting Gross power (and torque) figures therefore reflected a 
maximum, theoretical value and not the power of an installed engine in a 
street car. Gross horsepower figures were also subject to considerable 
adjustment by the manufacturer's advertising and marketing staff under the 
direction of product managers. The power ratings of mass-market engines were 
often exaggerated beyond their actual Gross output, while those of the 
highest-performance muscle car engines often tended to be closer in actual 
output to their advertised, Gross ratings...Because SAE gross ratings were 
applied liberally, at best, there is no precise conversion from gross to 
net. Comparison of gross and net ratings for unchanged engines shows a 
variance of anywhere from 40 to 150 horsepower."
Source: Wikipidia.

220 gross hp as stated by Chevrolet vs. 169 NET hp. for the 2008 as stated 
by Chevrolet.  While no true conversion exists, zero to sixty times prove 
relevant as the vehicles weights are about the same at about 3000 lbs. in 
1966 vs 3300 lbs in 2008,   The zero to sixty time of the two cars gives a 
true indication of comparable horsepower at the wheels.  The 66 Malibu was 
about 9 seconds, and the 2008 Malibu, even though heavier makes the sprint 
in just over 8 seconds.

David


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Lindley" <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
To: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: Bad MG news from Automotive News Now: Demise 
of Auto Industry


> "and its four cylinder engine produces more horsepower than the 1966
> with a 327 V-8."  Splain please.  How much power today, was 220+ w/2 bbl 
> in 66.
>   Ed in SD

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Fri Aug 29 21:53:32 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:53:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <03D633EB8E43433EB07BD654E195BDD5@personal>

Good on ya. I intend to do that as well next week end along with my Model A 
and T Club.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 10:44 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>           Went to "Noggins and Natter" tonite to pick up my packet
>           for the ABFM. When i sent in my registration, in the blank
>           where it says "club affiliation" i wrote
>
>           SPRITE MIDGET CLUB USA
>
>
>           I'll be dipped if they didn't put it on my windscreen
>           placard!  too cool.
>
>           Am I the first to be so officially reccgnized?  anyone else
>           doing this yet..
>
>           I'm so excited i can barely spit!
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>  Taglines are the restroom wall of the Net.
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From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com  Fri Aug 29 21:59:16 2008
From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:59:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?
References: <001f01c90a24$724f7480$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <001b01c90a54$c5fb2130$2eaef904@D1PWFG61>

I think that all of these outlandish Bugeye values are make believe.  I 
think that ebay is a better representation of the actual market.  Why don't 
they base the value on something actually real and not nonsense.  I would 
like to see a price guide that would use all of ebays results.

I like Bugeyes very much but i can't even get that kind of money out of a 
'61 lotus Seven America and it actually is "rare" and valuable.

Mike Carpenter
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Higgins" <g.h.higgins at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 6:13 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?


>I had a friend who sold his 1960 Bugeye at auction last year in Hilton 
>Head.
> He got $25.000 for car, the car was concours silver, some lady with deep
> pockets fell in love with the car, and had to have it.
>
> So Dave, it sounds like your car is right up there.
>
> Greg Higgins
> 63 sprite
> _______________________________________________

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Fri Aug 29 22:04:44 2008
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] tach question, pos earth 66 MK3 1098
In-Reply-To: <20080830020547.OMLM4606.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <43840a7e0808291442h46b76d6dv32a80510d0bf87e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080830020547.OMLM4606.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W37D54A6154CB0A78852B2BCE620@phx.gbl>

Chris,
I found these two sites helpful.  I ordered a capacitor and two transistors,
then got impatient, bought a capacitor at Radio Shack and installed it before
the stuff I ordered came.  The capacitor stopped the needle from bouncing all
over, so I decided not to push my luck and am going to leave it alone. If you
want a couple transistors and a capacitor, let me know.

Dave

http://www.hazelden.ca/austinhealey/RebuildingBJ8Tach/

http://www.classictiger.com/techtips/motach.html



> From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 29 Aug
2008 21:05:44 -0500> Subject: [Spridgets] tach question, pos earth 66 MK3
1098> > Hi-> > I've got a head scratcher here. I pretty much have my engine
running right> for now (fun runs around the block) but I cannot get my tach to
work.> Thinking it was possibly broken, I tried an alternative with the right>
polarity and still no go.> > The stock tach does jump when I turn the key but
does nothing after it> starts. > > Is there a wire crossed somewhere? Even
connecting my old tach to the coil> I got nothing, and I can confirm the
engine was running.> > Chris> > 66 MKIII > Brookfield, WI>
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From hal at katemuir.com  Fri Aug 29 22:44:28 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:44:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-F366C2A0018B8E3E54C7383B8630@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFEEKGIFAA.hal@katemuir.com>

-----Original Message-----


money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to you, 

Nope.  Most gifts are not taxed here in the States.

Hal

From hal at katemuir.com  Fri Aug 29 22:44:31 2008
From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:44:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0808290819o51b0ec37jc4f156c5116ced5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEKGIFAA.hal@katemuir.com>

-----Original Message-----
 if the DNC has their way they'll be bringing Chicago politics
to the White House.

And this would be worse than:
1.	Florida politics in the White House.
2.	A moron in the White House who is reaponsible for starting a war based
entirely on lies.  4000 plus American dead, untold Iraqi.  The U. S. Armed
forces stretched thin fighting a war against daddy's nemesis, not fighting
the organization that attacked the US.  The National debt increased by
hundeds of Billions (if not Trillions) of dollars. To put this in terms of
taxes: when the government borrows money to pay for things it can't afford
(such as senseless wars that don't contribute to the National security) it
uses that money to compete with ordinary citizens for goods and services.
The law of supply and demand says that if more money chases the same goods
the price goes up.  Your dollar doesn't buy as much. Thus, the government
has reduced your net worth.  Since the government can just print more money
to buy more goods and services it can reduce your net worth as much as it
wants in order to pay for as many boondoggles as it wants.  INFLATION IS A
TAX, plain and simple.  So when you find that you are spending 20 or 30 per
cent more for your groceries and everything else, you now know where that
money is going.

Wake up.

Hal

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Aug 29 23:03:38 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:03:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Bugeye for restoration
In-Reply-To: <1539625814-1220061719-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-122645496-@bxe159.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <48B830C3.22165.25FD894@dmg.bossig.com>
	<1539625814-1220061719-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-122645496-@bxe159.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <EB88562D6819460AAE55716AA7A5118E@Home>

Anyone in the Chicago area know about this car?  I am looking for a good project without extensive body work.  I have acquaintances (daughter's boyfriend's parents) nearby who could help with a transaction.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/818053822.html__,_._

This car needs to find a good home. Excellent start for a restoration project. 
The body is in good condition, no rust holes. Some surface rust in some areas, 
but nothing major. Missing body emblems, chrome parts, bumpers, & gas tank, 
some dash gauges need to be replaced. The engine will turn over by hand, but 
need work. Please send email if you have any questions. 

__ 

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Fri Aug 29 23:23:53 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:23:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0808292223q7d94351dv537891b5bf0e3781@mail.gmail.com>

Guys, we pulled the head off before pulling the motor out... Look at what we
found! My grandfather was right! Sent the head out to the local guy to do
some work on it. Pulling that piston out because one of those pieces is
actually stuck into it, machining it off/out and putting a weld to cover it
up. Grinding all of the valve heads down because as you can see the valve
heads are hitting.

Comments? Concerns?

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Aug 29 23:51:23 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:51:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor
Message-ID: <FE33D73CF13349A0850D7D9B78893262@Home>

My wiper motor has a dead short that eats fuses.  I took it apart, but can't see anything obviously melted, etc.  I don't know how the wiring is supposed to work to test it.  Only two repair parts are available:  Brushes (which look fine) and a parking switch, which is a plastic box that could easily contain a short.  Anyone have any thoughts on simple repairs before I order a full replacement?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

From tinydog at snet.net  Sat Aug 30 05:36:35 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:36:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
In-Reply-To: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>

tinydog asked:

What is the "SPRITE MIDGET CLUB USA" ?
 -------------- Original message from Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>: --------------


> Hello Spridgets,
> 
>            Went to "Noggins and Natter" tonite to pick up my packet
>            for the ABFM. When i sent in my registration, in the blank
>            where it says "club affiliation" i wrote
> 
>            SPRITE MIDGET CLUB USA

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Sat Aug 30 05:41:31 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:41:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
Message-ID: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

 Matt Hagopian wrote:Guys, we pulled the head off before pulling the motor out... Look at what we
> found! My grandfather was right! Sent the head out to the local guy to do
> some work on it. Pulling that piston out because one of those pieces is
> actually stuck into it, machining it off/out and putting a weld to cover it
> up. Grinding all of the valve heads down because as you can see the valve
> heads are hitting.

> Comments? Concerns?

Matt,
You're kidding, right?  You cannot possibly grind a valve head down enough to make the clearance you need!!!  Clearance should be .060", and removing that from a valve would severely weaken it, the margin on the valve is usually only .030".  The proper fix is to machine valve reliefs in the pistons. Was the cam timing checked during the disassembly? Chains don't last very long at race rpm, especially single row chains.
Welding on the pistons of a race engine is another unusual idea that may distort the ring lands, and give future ring sealing or sticking problems. If you want this engine to last you need to find someone experienced with RACE engines.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Aug 30 06:30:02 2008
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:30:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values......soon to degrade into  politics
In-Reply-To: <HJECLIGCCJIHGFIGICMFGEKGIFAA.hal@katemuir.com>
Message-ID: <00f201c90a9c$203e4ea0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>

Sigh.........Here we go, again.  Man, this list needs a monitor.  This
thread will be a total waste of space, will convince NO ONE of ANYTHING,
and just generally piss a lot of folks off.  
My suggestion to all would be to simply "check your politics at the
door, please".  I was planning to unsubscribe, for a few days, for my
Watkins Glen odyssey, anyway.  I guess I'll just do it today, instead of
Wednesday evening.
BTW, I hope to see some of you at Watkins Glen.  I'll be hanging around
the Western Pennsylvania Triumph Assn's hospitality tent (for Triumph
racers, of which I'm definitely not one) in the paddock area.
I'll re-subscribe when I return, by which time the pending political
babble thread should have passed.
Bud Osbourne 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hal
Faulkner
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 11:45 PM
To: Jethro (JFoster)
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values

-----Original Message-----
 if the DNC has their way they'll be bringing Chicago politics
to the White House.

And this would be worse than:
1.	Florida politics in the White House.
2.	A moron in the White House who is reaponsible for starting a war
based
entirely on lies.  4000 plus American dead, untold Iraqi.  The U. S.
Armed
forces stretched thin fighting a war against daddy's nemesis, not
fighting
the organization that attacked the US.  The National debt increased by
hundeds of Billions (if not Trillions) of dollars. To put this in terms
of
taxes: when the government borrows money to pay for things it can't
afford
(such as senseless wars that don't contribute to the National security)
it
uses that money to compete with ordinary citizens for goods and
services.
The law of supply and demand says that if more money chases the same
goods
the price goes up.  Your dollar doesn't buy as much. Thus, the
government
has reduced your net worth.  Since the government can just print more
money
to buy more goods and services it can reduce your net worth as much as
it
wants in order to pay for as many boondoggles as it wants.  INFLATION IS
A
TAX, plain and simple.  So when you find that you are spending 20 or 30
per
cent more for your groceries and everything else, you now know where
that
money is going.

Wake up.

Hal
_______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 30 08:21:50 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:21:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
In-Reply-To: <083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
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Hello Tinydog,

     Sprite Midget Club USA was started in order to give a name for
     the people who organized the Lake of Ozarks 50th anniversary
     celebration. They needed some sort of NAME in order to make
     reservations, etc. Many people asked if they could be members
     rather than let the club disintegrate after the gathering. The
     GRAND POOBAH (who denies the title, thus showing his
     qualification for said title) informed anyone who expressed such
     a desire that we were not just members but PRESIDENTS of the
     club.

 >The beauty of this club is that everyone is a President and each
 > chapter is located in the driver's seat of your Spridget.


 When asked if each president could induct persons who HAD NOT
 ATTENDED LoTO the reply was

 > You can induct anyone you want to so long as you make the induction
 > ceremony some kind of really obscure initiation with pagan ritual
 > involving Lucas electrics, old motor oil and semi-nude people
 >  waving 7/16s spanners and chanting something about BMC and Skinners Union ....    ;-)

 (hey jim, don't you love cut and paste?)

 Since there was only one other member from anywhere near to ME, (and
 with his express permission) I claim to be President of

 The Pacific Northwest Chapter of
 Sprite Midget Club USA

 whose territory encompasses but may not be limited to

 British Columbia (well not in the USA, but still)
 Washington
 Oregon
 Idaho

 and of course anywhere else i may travel in my Sprite. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
   "Can I hail you a taxi?" asked Tom dormantly. (*2)

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 30 08:23:33 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:23:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust manifold flange question
In-Reply-To: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi-

I think I know the answer but wanted to ping the collective brain here...

While unbolting one of the flange studs on my 1098, an ear broke off.  Any
practical way to fix that or just move on and find another?

Chris

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Aug 30 08:27:22 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:27:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust manifold flange question
References: <20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <F501C48BC44E406EAF737A9515DE890B@midget>

> While unbolting one of the flange studs on my 1098, an ear broke off.  Any
> practical way to fix that or just move on and find another?

Buy an LCB

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 08:37:44 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808290911l620dc712pa314413ea10342f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <838201.96851.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Speaking of taxes, I just got my assessment in the mail for my house. It's amazing - apparently despite 9% local unemployment, 400+ days of housing sale inventory, etc., the county says my house went up $30,000 in value this year and I get to pay more in taxes! And that's with a credit for home improvement for the workshop.

I'll be in line to file my protest on Tuesday morning.

Ron


--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> > money is taxed when you earn it or someone gives it to
> you, when you save
> > it, when you spend it, when you give it away, and what
> you have left over
> > when you die ... to name a few.
> 
> 
> And if at any time during that chain of events you run out
> of it, its called
> tax
> evasion and you go to jail and/or get fined more money that
> you don't have.
> 
> The lawyers have this set up pretty good, don't you
> think?  ;-)

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Aug 30 08:40:27 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:40:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
In-Reply-To: <118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
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Message-ID: <48B95BDB.7090701@frontiernet.net>

Oh Great and Mighty President,

I have a case of Liquid Smoke and a syringe to inject it back into my 
wiring.  Would that make me eligible for membership in Sprite Midget 
Club USA?  Is Nevada in the PNW?  Or should there be a SW region?

Perhaps we could talk Frank's dad into making us bumper stickers or 
shirts or something?

Kate
>
>  Since there was only one other member from anywhere near to ME, (and
>  with his express permission) I claim to be President of
>
>  The Pacific Northwest Chapter of
>  Sprite Midget Club USA
>
>  whose territory encompasses but may not be limited to
>
>  British Columbia (well not in the USA, but still)
>  Washington
>  Oregon
>  Idaho
>
>  and of course anywhere else i may travel in my Sprite. 
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 08:45:12 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:45:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family     members
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ADC@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <103036.56493.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Deikis, John G <John.Deikis at va.gov> wrote:
> Hey!  That's what Donato said about MY car!
> I didn't realize he was plagiarizing.

I recently drove Porasik's new car/Roger Heil's old one. Tail happy, lots of "break it loose" horsepower, AND my 1st time on the track with right hand drive - a real attention getter for me.

Ron

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Aug 30 08:46:55 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:46:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
In-Reply-To: <118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>,
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <48B8FAEF.23325.3C9AD4@dmg.bossig.com>

(Lots of Bowing and scraping)

Sorry mate.... Eastern Washington is taken....
I'm only 250 miles away...
Either that or I'm chopped liver

(Now that's a come-on line if I ever saw one......)

On 30 Aug 2008 at 7:21, Bill L wrote:
>>  Since there was only one other member from anywhere near to ME, (and
>>  with his express permission) I claim to be President of
>> 
>>  The Pacific Northwest Chapter of
>>  Sprite Midget Club USA
>> 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 08:50:57 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:50:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?
In-Reply-To: <48B875F8.5040605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <838990.50098.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 8/29/08, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> Where are these people when I sell a Bugeye?
> I get about 1/3rd of that.

You're not asking enough.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 09:07:42 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:07:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust manifold flange question
In-Reply-To: <F501C48BC44E406EAF737A9515DE890B@midget>
Message-ID: <997212.47326.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> wrote:
> Buy an LCB

Other options - I have drilled out a broken stud and replaced it with a bolt. If not, on a basically stock street car I think you can get the exact same effect of an LCB if you:

1) drill a tiny 1/16 hole in your muffler
2) tear up three $50 bills into tiny pieces
3) put on a replacement stock manifold

Ron

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 09:34:54 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:34:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust manifold flange question
In-Reply-To: <20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
	<20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

While unbolting one of the flange studs on my 1098, an ear broke off.  Any
practical way to fix that or just move on and find another?

The stock manifold for a 1098 was a clamp style. If you have studs, it came
from a 1275 (in case you want to find another one to replace it). The other
answers are options. If you can use a through bolt with an appropriate
washer on the broken ear side it will hold up well. I have done that on
several occasions.  I usually remove the studs, drill the holes and use
stainless steel bolts whenever I can. Much less hassle than trying to remove
some rusted up stud nut!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 09:45:01 2008
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 08:45:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye values?
In-Reply-To: <48B875F8.5040605@comcast.net>
References: <001f01c90a24$724f7480$6501a8c0@Inspiron>
	<48B875F8.5040605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48B96AFD.2020409@gmail.com>

   Try selling it in Short Hills not Toms River :-)
   -g
   Frank Clarici wrote:

Greg Higgins wrote:

I had a friend who sold his 1960 Bugeye at auction last year in Hilton Head.
He got $25.000 for car,

Where are these people when I sell a Bugeye?
I get about 1/3rd of that.

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 30 10:56:43 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:56:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Values
In-Reply-To: <C736E29DD4844ADD841DDCD1B0650203@midget>
References: <E1KYtG2-00071Q-GQ@box6.bluehost.com>
	<C736E29DD4844ADD841DDCD1B0650203@midget>
Message-ID: <BLU111-W2A5E4374F60F0B6DFED3BC2620@phx.gbl>

That's an easy one Dave,
Barrett-Jackson

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto

> From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com


> but that does NOT make it a 17G car. I would like to know where NADA came up
> with 26G as a "high retail value" while clearly stating "Note: This value
> does not represent a "100 Point" or "# 1" vehicle *." Of course, they also
> list the only potential option for the car being a "Factory Hardtop BN7"...
> David Lieb

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sat Aug 30 11:07:41 2008
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:07:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] world gas prices
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402921ACB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
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Hi John,

haven't seen the prices in the middle east, have ya?
under a buck  a gallon. and 12 cents in Venezuela  :-)


http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

You are right tho, it is much cheaper than Europe,
But then again all of Europe could fit inside Texas, almost
;-)


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer under resto
.

But we still have, and have historically had, the least expensive fuel costs
in
> the world. I have yet to pay more than $1 per liter.


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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sat Aug 30 11:26:59 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:26:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor
References: <FE33D73CF13349A0850D7D9B78893262@Home>
Message-ID: <DFF2C5356CEF4E9D840FC5FB54BE3781@midget>

Michael,
> Anyone in the Chicago area know about this car?  I am looking for a good 
> project without extensive body work.  I have acquaintances (daughter's 
> boyfriend's parents) nearby who could help with a transaction.

I do not know this Bugeye on Craigs List, but if it is in Chicago, the tin 
worm is probably very active.

> My wiper motor has a dead short that eats fuses.  I took it apart, but 
> can't see anything obviously melted, etc.  I don't know how the wiring is 
> supposed to work to test it.  Only two repair parts are available: 
> Brushes (which look fine) and a parking switch, which is a plastic box 
> that could easily contain a short.  Anyone have any thoughts on simple 
> repairs before I order a full replacement?

Sounds like it is wired wrong or else the park switch is not working 
correctly. I did a mess of work figuring out the wiring of the two-speed 
motor a while back and it is complicated. If the park circuit and the switch 
are not wired properly, it will blow fuses right and left. Not uncommon in 
this world where few Spridgets do NOT have a DPO...

Looking at the connector on the wiper motor:
#1 (black) is ground
#2 (NLG) is part of the park circuit
#3 (ULG) is high speed
#4 (GK) is the +Park switch connection
#5 (RLG) is low speed

Try applying ground to #1 and +12 to #5 with nothing else connected.
Try applying ground to #1 and +12 to #3 with nothing else connected.

The motor should turn with both scenarios, the second one should make it 
turn faster.
If it does not, then the motor is probably bad.

The park circuit should make perfect sense to you, since you are a Brit ;-)
Pin 4 (GK) has power whenever the ignition is in ACC or ON.
When the motor is in the Park position, the park switch grounds Pin2 (shorts 
Pin1 to Pin2).
When the wipers are turned off and they are NOT in the Park position,
the Park switch connects Pin 2 to Pin4 to keep the motor running until the 
Park position.

Hope this helps...
David Lieb

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 11:54:10 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] world gas prices
In-Reply-To: <BLU111-W29822646898833987587E5C2620@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <172592.93753.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The article is from 2005. I spent a lot of time in Brazil this spring at it was between $6 and $7 per gallon, higher in the boonies. 


--- On Sat, 8/30/08, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
> 
> You are right tho, it is much cheaper than Europe,
> But then again all of Europe could fit inside Texas, almost
> ;-)

From tinydog at snet.net  Sat Aug 30 11:58:34 2008
From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:58:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
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tinydog sez:

Can we still be members of a non-club?


 -------------- Original message from Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>: --------------


> Hello Tinydog,
> 
>      Sprite Midget Club USA was started in order to give a name for
>      the people who organized the Lake of Ozarks 50th anniversary
>      celebration. They needed some sort of NAME in order to make
>      reservations, etc. Many people asked if they could be members
>      rather than let the club disintegrate after the gathering. The
>      GRAND POOBAH  

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Aug 30 13:03:32 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:03:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] was Phil Hill,
 now Burt Levy-reading family      members
In-Reply-To: <103036.56493.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNOEBEDAAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<a real attention getter for me.>>

HeeHee, I'll bet 'Hopper!!  

What were your lap times vs your car ones??

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Aug 30 12:04:11 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:04:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <CD8F02C08D0744CC8DF5663C0F9E1ABE@spider>

Only if you join.  ...bill in oregon

=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of tinydog at snet.net
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:59 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

tinydog sez:

Can we still be members of a non-club?


 -------------- Original message from Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>: ----


> Hello Tinydog,
> 
>      Sprite Midget Club USA was started in order to give a name for
>      the people who organized the Lake of Ozarks 50th anniversary
>      celebration. They needed some sort of NAME in order to make
>      reservations, etc. Many people asked if they could be members
>      rather than let the club disintegrate after the gathering. The
>      GRAND POOBAH  
_______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Aug 30 13:05:21 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:05:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Bugeye for restoration
In-Reply-To: <EB88562D6819460AAE55716AA7A5118E@Home>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNCEBGDAAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Gone, Michael?!!?
 
Your link didn't work so I did check 1st 3 pages = no dice.
 
Ed

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Aug 30 12:12:19 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:12:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <CD8F02C08D0744CC8DF5663C0F9E1ABE@spider>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<CD8F02C08D0744CC8DF5663C0F9E1ABE@spider>
Message-ID: <48B98D83.8040509@frontiernet.net>

So how do I join this non-club?  By not joining it?

Kate

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> Only if you join.  ...bill in oregon
>
> =======================================================
>
>
> tinydog sez:
>
> Can we still be members of a non-club?

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Sat Aug 30 12:17:00 2008
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:17:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lap times at Nurburgring
Message-ID: <002e01c90acc$98ea5530$6401a8c0@Music>

Sabine in the Transit Van

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pklvKKnd0&feature=related

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 12:20:52 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:20:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>

Clubs should only be organized to do things that individuals can't do.
 So, if you can do it alone, you don't need a club.  On the other
hand, having breakfast with yourself isn't possible so I guess a club
can be as simple as more than one getting together.  But, please, we
don't need any more do-nothing clubs.

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Aug 30 12:42:56 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:42:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>,
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>,
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48B93240.13052.114ACEB@dmg.bossig.com>

But this club has an electronic membership, with a large, very experienced 
tech staff only microseconds away from your vehicle.
The advice is free, and the ability to get parts made from 'unobtanium' is 
nothing less that miraculous!!
They even make house calls !!!


On 30 Aug 2008 at 12:20, derf wrote:
>>  But, please, we don't need any more do-nothing clubs.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 12:50:27 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:50:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] world gas prices
In-Reply-To: <172592.93753.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU111-W29822646898833987587E5C2620@phx.gbl>
	<172592.93753.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808301150r49a1f745oc26a457131ee1695@mail.gmail.com>

I lived in England through the latter 60s. If memory serves (Never a sure
thing these days  ;-) gas averaged about $5 to $6 an imperial gallon in 1966
dollars. That's about $25 a gallon today adjusted for inflation using the
CPI. We need to compare % increase in gas prices adjusted for inflation to
get a true measure of what is happening with fuel prices. As you can see,
adjusted for inflation, the cost of gas in England has actually decreased
relative to inflation and the value of the dollar.  In the US, given a gas
cost of about 60 cents a gallon in 1966, CPI dictates our gas should cost
$2.60 a gallon adjusted for inflation. Thus our cost has not quite doubled
compared to an actual decrease in England. And that represents a *geometric*
increase during only the past 3 years in this country!

The questions become, "Was our gas price held artificially low until 2005?",
and "If so, how was that done and why?"

Just a thought...

Cheers!!
Jim


On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> The article is from 2005. I spent a lot of time in Brazil this spring at it
> was between $6 and $7 per gallon, higher in the boonies.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 8/30/08, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/
> >
> > You are right tho, it is much cheaper than Europe,
> > But then again all of Europe could fit inside Texas, almost
> > ;-)
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Jim

From grday at btinternet.com  Sat Aug 30 13:08:59 2008
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:08:59 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
Message-ID: <617E46D5B32B47C58B3BFC9FEB1BCD66@TAIRS>

No.  It would appear there is not such a class as a member of this club.
However, it would seem as if you could be admitted as a president.

LOL

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tinydog at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:58 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club


> tinydog sez:
>
> Can we still be members of a non-club?
>
>
> -------------- Original message from Bill L 
> <pythias at pacifier.com>: --------------
>
>
>> Hello Tinydog,
>>
>>      Sprite Midget Club USA was started in order to give a name for
>>      the people who organized the Lake of Ozarks 50th anniversary
>>      celebration. They needed some sort of NAME in order to make
>>      reservations, etc. Many people asked if they could be members
>>      rather than let the club disintegrate after the gathering. The
>>      GRAND POOBAH
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 13:09:51 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:09:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <48B93240.13052.114ACEB@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48B93240.13052.114ACEB@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808301209t6f609f04j8b2c58cbca2cc5e9@mail.gmail.com>

Uh, that is called the spridget list.  Let's not re-invent the wheel.


On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Dave G. <dmg at bossig.com> wrote:
> But this club has an electronic membership, with a large, very experienced
> tech staff only microseconds away from your vehicle.
> The advice is free, and the ability to get parts made from 'unobtanium' is
> nothing less that miraculous!!
> They even make house calls !!!

From dmg at bossig.com  Sat Aug 30 14:09:26 2008
From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:09:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
Message-ID: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com>

I was under the impression that the "Sprite-Midget Club" is the same thing 
as <spridgets at autox.team.net> ??

Nu ??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If life begins at 50, why am I falling apart ?!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 14:13:13 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:13:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com>
References: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, but people are forever trying to re-invent something instead of
appreciating what already exists.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug 30 14:14:38 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:14:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <95D8104C40BA4DEE8EEC69B2A0730D37@personal>

Bah, the group was orginized to put on the 50th event at the Lake of the 
Ozarks. It will not be activated again thill the 2011 event someplace for 
Midgets 50th. Lots of legal stuff for an event that size.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: <tinydog at snet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club


> Clubs should only be organized to do things that individuals can't do.
> So, if you can do it alone, you don't need a club.  On the other
> hand, having breakfast with yourself isn't possible so I guess a club
> can be as simple as more than one getting together.  But, please, we
> don't need any more do-nothing clubs.
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug 30 14:16:05 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><CD8F02C08D0744CC8DF5663C0F9E1ABE@spider>
	<48B98D83.8040509@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CFC6E98864EA4A1CB0B139C413BCA9E1@personal>

You are a member just by saying you are, no dues, no meetings,  no nothing 
else. You can even be president by your decelaration.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club


> So how do I join this non-club?  By not joining it?
>
> Kate
>
> corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>> Only if you join.  ...bill in oregon
>>
>> =======================================================
>>
>>
>> tinydog sez:
>>
>> Can we still be members of a non-club?
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 14:20:19 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:20:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <CFC6E98864EA4A1CB0B139C413BCA9E1@personal>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
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	<48B98D83.8040509@frontiernet.net>
	<CFC6E98864EA4A1CB0B139C413BCA9E1@personal>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808301320y5ed5fa1rbbc29f707bcd7043@mail.gmail.com>

> . You can even be president by your decelaration.
>


That's not good enough.  The people want bureaucracy.  We all
decelerate every time we drive.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug 30 14:21:21 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:21:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<48B95BDB.7090701@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <CD41192BFA7C42EBB1246984280768D4@personal>

Hehe, think I will be in charge of vice = vice President for the Florida 
Panhandle.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX


> Oh Great and Mighty President,
>
> I have a case of Liquid Smoke and a syringe to inject it back into my
> wiring.  Would that make me eligible for membership in Sprite Midget
> Club USA?  Is Nevada in the PNW?  Or should there be a SW region?
>
> Perhaps we could talk Frank's dad into making us bumper stickers or
> shirts or something?
>
> Kate
>>
>>  Since there was only one other member from anywhere near to ME, (and
>>  with his express permission) I claim to be President of
>>
>>  The Pacific Northwest Chapter of
>>  Sprite Midget Club USA
>>
>>  whose territory encompasses but may not be limited to
>>
>>  British Columbia (well not in the USA, but still)
>>  Washington
>>  Oregon
>>  Idaho
>>
>>  and of course anywhere else i may travel in my Sprite.
>>
>>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 14:44:03 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:44:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com>
	<5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>

A word about Sprite - Midget Club USA....

This is most definitely NOT something which already exists. While the
Spridgets listserv works as a communication device for those who choose to
join it, there are many more Spridgeteers out there who do not choose to
join and will be served by the "club" via website. The model for this is the
extremely successful IBMWR.org group. Take a look.

All members are presidents of their own respective chapters. The chapter
confines are the edges of your Spridget cockpit. If there is a "do nothing"
club as was mentioned, then you get to fix that as you are the club and the
president. In essence, you can have as much fun as you want to or you can be
non-commital, or even miserable. Your choice.

Now... That said...  The 50th Anniversary at Lake of the Ozarks was most
definitely NOT a do nothing. Nor were the BusterCluster and the Holy Sprite
project. Most of the people involved with those worthy projects are also
Presidents. Again. Your choice. There no dues, no by laws (aside from those
required to gain non-profit charitable status to put on events), and no
meetings. The whole thing is run by volunteers and communication is via
"Spridgets".

Future plans include a special tool loan program, online technical articles
repository and classified listings. Additional nation wide or regional
gatherings are also a possibility with all the presidents attending. We're
already talking about the Midget 50th.

How do you join?  If you want to, you are automatically a President of your
very own chapter. Done deal. (Some have argued for initiations involving
semi-naked, pagan rituals under the full moon but that would be up to each
President).

Of course some won't see the fun in all this and that's okay too.  We're all
Spridgeteers.

Cheers!!
Jim - President
1st and Elm Chapter, Dodge City
Sprite - Midget Club USA
Formative web site: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:13 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but people are forever trying to re-invent something instead of
> appreciating what already exists.
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Jim

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 14:50:09 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>

Check out the chick with the tatoo!!

*http://tinyurl.com/5qskwf*<http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>

<http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>--
Cheers!!
Jim

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sat Aug 30 14:53:57 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:53:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!
References: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D93412B4B03B45119A7A93B98945E614@personal>

I can vote for that.

An armored Bugeye, Hmmm.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:50 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!


> Check out the chick with the tatoo!!
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/5qskwf*<http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>
>
> <http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>--
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Aug 30 15:40:13 2008
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:40:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts on Long Island
Message-ID: <8C1B07B114EA45A7BEA11EBC248927F6@Home>

Parts available from vping at optonline.net

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
Long Island, NY

Mike,

I'm cleaning out the garage and need to know if you need anything for your midget. I've got a really good front bumper here for $75. 

Also a ton of other parts. A few starters $75each, heater cores, Boot lid $50, Pedal assemblies with pedals and both MC's. Two ribcase transmissions $200 each, a decent dash which will need a cap and the face isn't cracked $30, gauges Speedo/tach $50 each and switches $25 and stalks $50! Vent windows left & right $25 each. 

1 - 1275 Block $100
1275 Pistons and rods $125 set of 4.
2 - 1275 Heads $100 each

I've got to purge and all of it will go to eBay unless you need something or anyone in your Midget Ring needs anything. 

I'll take offers on anything I have and have not listed prices on.

The list goes on and on and on.

Vince

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Aug 30 15:48:09 2008
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:48:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <CFC6E98864EA4A1CB0B139C413BCA9E1@personal>
Message-ID: <C4DF0E29.195B3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

ME!!!! I'll be president!
I missed the rest of the thread. Of what am I president? Is there a salary
involved. Do I get any cute female interns?
> You are a member just by saying you are, no dues, no meetings,  no nothing
> else. You can even be president by your decelaration.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Aug 30 16:31:02 2008
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:31:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20BCCA2611B146EB998472FFB230A88A@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
To: <tinydog at snet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club


Clubs should only be organized to do things that individuals can't do.
 So, if you can do it alone, you don't need a club.  On the other
hand, having breakfast with yourself isn't possible so I guess a club
can be as simple as more than one getting together.  But, please, we
don't need any more do-nothing clubs.
_______________________________________________


That's pretty good when a guy who doesn't even own a Sprite or Midget tells 
us we can't have a club.  Or a non-club.  Or a club of one.  Or anything 
else we damn please.

LAD 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 30 17:42:26 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:42:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <C4DF0E29.195B3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <20080830234228.WTQV20979.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Well then...I'm appointing myself the position of Coxswain.  Just don't tell
my wife.

Chris

The only Olympics I watched...stuck in my head.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Zoom
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:48 PM
To: Jack Laird; Kathryn Bales
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

ME!!!! I'll be president!
I missed the rest of the thread. Of what am I president? Is there a salary
involved. Do I get any cute female interns?
> You are a member just by saying you are, no dues, no meetings,  no nothing
> else. You can even be president by your decelaration.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Aug 30 17:53:33 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:53:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <20080830234228.WTQV20979.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <C4DF0E29.195B3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<20080830234228.WTQV20979.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <76B7376914F745FD93D81E5896B7A294@spider>

Etymology:  Middle English cokswayne, from cok cockboat (a small boat) +
swain servant 

Date: 15th century 

 a steersman of a racing shell who usually directs the rowers 

=======================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Chris Manuel
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:42 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

 

Well then...I'm appointing myself the position of Coxswain.  Just don't tell

my wife.

 

Chris

 

The only Olympics I watched...stuck in my head.

From nory1 at adelphia.net  Sat Aug 30 17:53:38 2008
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:53:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Bugeye for restoration
In-Reply-To: <EB88562D6819460AAE55716AA7A5118E@Home>
References: <48B830C3.22165.25FD894@dmg.bossig.com>
	<1539625814-1220061719-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-122645496-@bxe159.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<EB88562D6819460AAE55716AA7A5118E@Home>
Message-ID: <0911B922-2313-4B08-A457-E1BE87C99DDA@adelphia.net>

Is that snow in the pictures?  I would want to know what it looks  
like now, not last winter (assuming they were taken last winter, and  
not any previous winters).

BTW, the correct link is http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/ 
818053822.html



On Aug 30, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> Anyone in the Chicago area know about this car?  I am looking for a  
> good project without extensive body work.  I have acquaintances  
> (daughter's boyfriend's parents) nearby who could help with a  
> transaction.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> Long Island, NY
>
> http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/818053822.html__,_._
>
> This car needs to find a good home. Excellent start for a  
> restoration project.
> The body is in good condition, no rust holes. Some surface rust in  
> some areas,
> but nothing major. Missing body emblems, chrome parts, bumpers, &  
> gas tank,
> some dash gauges need to be replaced. The engine will turn over by  
> hand, but
> need work. Please send email if you have any questions.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 30 18:18:32 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:18:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <76B7376914F745FD93D81E5896B7A294@spider>
Message-ID: <20080831001834.BXWQ22935.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Yes-exactly :)

Like "help push my Sprite back in the driveway, I'll steer it"

Still would like cool on a business card...

Chris


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:54 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

Etymology:  Middle English cokswayne, from cok cockboat (a small boat) +
swain servant 

Date: 15th century 

 a steersman of a racing shell who usually directs the rowers 

=======================================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Chris Manuel
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 4:42 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

 

Well then...I'm appointing myself the position of Coxswain.  Just don't tell

my wife.

 

Chris

 

The only Olympics I watched...stuck in my head.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Aug 30 18:34:15 2008
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:34:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <20BCCA2611B146EB998472FFB230A88A@Larry>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<20BCCA2611B146EB998472FFB230A88A@Larry>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910808301734p7f4c738bpc02d16197c55579d@mail.gmail.com>

No, you can have all the clubs you want.
BTW, my sister has three Midgets, my best friend has a 66 Sprite (that
I gave him), and I just told a lawyer friend I would help him get his
74 MGB running.
So, technically, I can't be in LD's club, since I don't own a
spridget.  I'll have to start my own club for non-Spridget owners.
But, since I've been on this list for about 9 years, and I could find
and buy a Spridget at any moment, I think I'll stay subscribed, just
in case.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 30 18:43:14 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:43:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A.
Message-ID: <1645246017.20080830174314@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  Got to see Paul A. today at the abfm-pdx. He is up and walking
  around with the aid of a cane. He said is treatment is going well
  and he expects to be cancer free by the beginning of next year. He
  said he NOW knows that he is old and has to start acting that way.
  Also he is aware that is memory is NOT what it once was, though he
  thinks it IS improving as he gets better. He actually LOOKED pretty
  good, though as Peter S. mentioned he is noticibly shorter. I don't
  know how long he was at the meet before he found me, but i found him
  still looking over an hour later. at that time he was getting tired
  but just had to look at the morris minors before leaving. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  File Not Found. Loading something that looks similar. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 30 18:48:54 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
Message-ID: <1947135243.20080830174854@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      So as i was sitting there minding my own business at the meet, a
      man walked up and asked if knew anyone interested in a lenham
      lemans replica. He had pictures. According to him, it is on a
      Mark IV chassis, the body work done and rust free. It is a
      complete car. All the parts are there but it has been sitting
      for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and shipped by
      the previous owner to redwood city, California. He never
      finished it, nor has the present owner. Project anyone?

      I don't know where the car is NOW, someplace in Oregon?

      For Info call

      Dave Loewen   503.931.8302

      NFI  just reporting as it was told me.



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  "There's someone in my head, but its not me." -Pink Floyd 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 19:06:41 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A and Lenham LeMans anyone?
In-Reply-To: <1947135243.20080830174854@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <44983.22159.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> sitting
>       for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and
> shipped by
>       the previous owner to redwood city, California. He
> never
>       finished it, nor has the present owner. Project
> anyone?

I remember that car - I think Frank was about to snag it at one point??

Also, absolutely fantastic news about Paul. Peter C. and I spent a solid 12 hours prepping for the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival last night and we spoke of Paul often. One of his catch phrases, "it only goes on one way" was uttered between us 50 times or so. Tell Paul life on the left side of the height bell curve is just fine. Remind him of Buster's ceiling....

Regards,
Ron

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Aug 30 19:07:22 2008
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:07:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] headlights.  Is that too much to ask for?
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808301734p7f4c738bpc02d16197c55579d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080831010723.CNBH22935.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>

Well, I want directionals too.

Here is what I have working so far...

Brake lights that work with the brakes, and taillights when I throw the
switch.
Dash lights that work with the switch.
Gas gauge
Good solid ignition.

Tach inop, but that's for later.
Generator light always on, but regulator looks icky inside. 
So we got that out of the way.

I know the bulbs are good, and if I apply power directly to these lamps,
they work.

Per Franks advice, I found the black wire on the passenger side and cleaned
the connection down to bare metal, but no change.

After reading my orange Reader (Bentley page 194) Lighting switch "6" has
more wires plugged into it than I have, specifically the LG and LGP ones.  I
do not see these dangling around anywhere behind the dash.

Also, back in the engine/front end side, I matched up the colors, but I end
up with a black connector with nothing to plug into it. There is a blue one,
but black to blue does not seem like a logical choice.

Is there a chart somewhere to hit point to point to test things other than
the wiring diagram?

Chris

66MKIII
Brookfield, WI

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Aug 30 19:21:45 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:21:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
References: <1947135243.20080830174854@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <035901c90b07$ef4a2460$4e947e4c@HP>

I made an offer of 7 grand for a Lenham in that same area a couple of years 
ago but was turned down.It may be the same car.This one was in pretty bad 
shape. It had been stored outside for a while.

Larry Miller


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      So as i was sitting there minding my own business at the meet, a
>      man walked up and asked if knew anyone interested in a lenham
>      lemans replica. He had pictures. According to him, it is on a
>      Mark IV chassis, the body work done and rust free. It is a
>      complete car. All the parts are there but it has been sitting
>      for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and shipped by
>      the previous owner to redwood city, California. He never
>      finished it, nor has the present owner. Project anyone?
>
>      I don't know where the car is NOW, someplace in Oregon?
>
>      For Info call
>
>      Dave Loewen   503.931.8302
>
>      NFI  just reporting as it was told me.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug 30 19:57:44 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:57:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust manifold flange question
In-Reply-To: <20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <20080830142335.VPOS16835.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <48B9FA98.1010100@comcast.net>

Chris Manuel wrote:
>
> While unbolting one of the flange studs on my 1098, an ear broke off.  
Do you mean an ear at the engine?
I have a 1098 exhaust manifold you can have.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Aug 30 19:57:02 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 18:57:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
In-Reply-To: <035901c90b07$ef4a2460$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <4FECB7BD71DE488D91590F886D43022D@HERBYZ>

Yeah, it sounds like the same story as the one that was on craigslist a
while back. It was at a foreign auto repair place here in Hayward. I think
the guy sold the business and moved. Maybe he didn't sell it and moved to
Portland?

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Larry & Sandi Miller
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:22 PM
To: Bill L; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?

I made an offer of 7 grand for a Lenham in that same area a couple of years 
ago but was turned down.It may be the same car.This one was in pretty bad 
shape. It had been stored outside for a while.

Larry Miller


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?


> Hello Spridgets,
>
>      So as i was sitting there minding my own business at the meet, a
>      man walked up and asked if knew anyone interested in a lenham
>      lemans replica. He had pictures. According to him, it is on a
>      Mark IV chassis, the body work done and rust free. It is a
>      complete car. All the parts are there but it has been sitting
>      for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and shipped by
>      the previous owner to redwood city, California. He never
>      finished it, nor has the present owner. Project anyone?
>
>      I don't know where the car is NOW, someplace in Oregon?
>
>      For Info call
>
>      Dave Loewen   503.931.8302
>
>      NFI  just reporting as it was told me.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Aug 30 20:02:04 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:02:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper motor
In-Reply-To: <DFF2C5356CEF4E9D840FC5FB54BE3781@midget>
References: <FE33D73CF13349A0850D7D9B78893262@Home>
	<DFF2C5356CEF4E9D840FC5FB54BE3781@midget>
Message-ID: <48B9FB9C.2060106@comcast.net>

Michael
What David said about the wiring.
Him and I were working out a 2 speed motor to work on my 67 which only 
had a single speed motor but I had to have it work off
a stock 2 position toggle switch.
We did it! And they say it couldn't be done, some MGA guru said that but 
I DID do it and with no relays.
Just some swift rewiring at the switch and yes it parks when off.
Anyway, if you can not figure it out, let me know, I have a spare and 
will trade you. I will figure it out.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Aug 30 20:10:20 2008
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:10:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
References: <4FECB7BD71DE488D91590F886D43022D@HERBYZ>
Message-ID: <036a01c90b0e$b8e06090$4e947e4c@HP>

I seem to recall that the car was left at this repair shop and the owner 
died and the shop owner got the car then the shop closed. I also remember 
that when he turned me down he said he had an offer of 8k from Japan.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herby" <herby at herbytoys.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?


> Yeah, it sounds like the same story as the one that was on craigslist a
> while back. It was at a foreign auto repair place here in Hayward. I think
> the guy sold the business and moved. Maybe he didn't sell it and moved to
> Portland?
>
> Herby
> 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
> 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
> 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
> herby at herbytoys.com
> www.herbytoys.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces+herby=herbytoys.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry & Sandi Miller
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 6:22 PM
> To: Bill L; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
>
> I made an offer of 7 grand for a Lenham in that same area a couple of 
> years
> ago but was turned down.It may be the same car.This one was in pretty bad
> shape. It had been stored outside for a while.
>
> Larry Miller
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 5:48 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
>
>
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>      So as i was sitting there minding my own business at the meet, a
>>      man walked up and asked if knew anyone interested in a lenham
>>      lemans replica. He had pictures. According to him, it is on a
>>      Mark IV chassis, the body work done and rust free. It is a
>>      complete car. All the parts are there but it has been sitting
>>      for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and shipped by
>>      the previous owner to redwood city, California. He never
>>      finished it, nor has the present owner. Project anyone?
>>
>>      I don't know where the car is NOW, someplace in Oregon?
>>
>>      For Info call
>>
>>      Dave Loewen   503.931.8302
>>
>>      NFI  just reporting as it was told me.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>>
>> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> _______________________________________________
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From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Aug 30 20:22:34 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:22:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?
In-Reply-To: <036a01c90b0e$b8e06090$4e947e4c@HP>
Message-ID: <AD07E44D0ED449C2AF8A1FA17482128C@HERBYZ>

The shop is back open now. Under a new name and I assume new ownership.
Don't see any LBC's out front anymore though. 

 

Herby

63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)

62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)

00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)

herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry & Sandi Miller [mailto:millerls at ado13.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 7:10 PM
To: herby at herbytoys.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lenham LeMans anyone?

 

I seem to recall that the car was left at this repair shop and the owner 

died and the shop owner got the car then the shop closed. I also remember 

that when he turned me down he said he had an offer of 8k from Japan.

 

>> Hello Spridgets,

>> 

>>      So as i was sitting there minding my own business at the meet, a

>>      man walked up and asked if knew anyone interested in a lenham

>>      lemans replica. He had pictures. According to him, it is on a

>>      Mark IV chassis, the body work done and rust free. It is a

>>      complete car. All the parts are there but it has been sitting

>>      for 20 years. it was built in England by Lenham and shipped by

>>      the previous owner to redwood city, California. He never

>>      finished it, nor has the present owner. Project anyone?

>> 

>>      I don't know where the car is NOW, someplace in Oregon?

>> 

>>      For Info call

>> 

>>      Dave Loewen   503.931.8302

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 30 21:05:47 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:05:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: [morris_motors] Re: PAUL A. siteing
Message-ID: <583548.25773.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Guys,
 
Good news - Paul A was sited at the Portland, OR meet.
There is a picture of him for those i wrote direct.
 
Vigil
SoCal

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, DeutschBubbleCarFan <paclippr at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: DeutschBubbleCarFan <paclippr at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [morris_motors] Re: PAUL A.
To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 5:19 PM










Hi, Just came back from the Portland All British Field meet and saw Paul
there. Thought I would post a couple of pictures of him for those who have not
met him. Sorry , not the best shots.  He is  recovering still and this was his
first adventure out. Says things are looking better and hopes to get "back to
business" in January still is living out of town (from Portland) about 50
miles away, (don;t have his contact address etc for there) just use his email,
he will get to it. This was the smallest Morris showing in years.. Too bad... 
Lots of the other makes in attendance. Nice to see people but the same cars
come back over and over.  The swap meet tomorrow is almost more exciting... 
Thanks Roger Portland Oregon
 








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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Aug 30 22:09:11 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:09:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] windshield and frame?
Message-ID: <953566026.20080830210911@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

         at the abfm there is a windshield with frame for sale for
         $150.... is it worth it.. its IS in good shape..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N) 

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Aug 30 23:55:43 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:55:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>
References: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com>
	<5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BA325F.5090100@frontiernet.net>

The next full moon is 9/15.  Who all is coming to my initiation ceremony?

Kate
> (Some have argued for initiations involving
> semi-naked, pagan rituals under the full moon but that would be up to each
> President).

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Aug 30 23:57:09 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:57:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BA32B5.1020302@wi.net>

Got my vote!!!  Ummmm, Frank?  What's your position on trade with China?

Hey!  Just wonderin'!  ;-)

Dave
BurlingtonWI

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Check out the chick with the tatoo!!
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/5qskwf*<http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>
>
> <http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>--
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Aug 31 00:00:51 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:00:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Bugeye for restoration
In-Reply-To: <0911B922-2313-4B08-A457-E1BE87C99DDA@adelphia.net>
References: <48B830C3.22165.25FD894@dmg.bossig.com>
	<1539625814-1220061719-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-122645496-@bxe159.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<EB88562D6819460AAE55716AA7A5118E@Home>
	<0911B922-2313-4B08-A457-E1BE87C99DDA@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <48BA3393.3020905@wi.net>

Hells bells man, that was taken today!!

Dave
Burlington WI, 70 mi north of Chicago

Nory wrote:
> Is that snow in the pictures?  I would want to know what it looks  
> like now, not last winter (assuming they were taken last winter, and  
> not any previous winters).
>
> BTW, the correct link is http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/pts/ 
> 818053822.html

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sun Aug 31 01:19:09 2008
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:19:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
In-Reply-To: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
References: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0808310019h4f5b4141p6722fcd7bc806e14@mail.gmail.com>

We dont actually have to weld, we took the piece out of the piston and it
didnt break through, smoothing it out. I didnt check the chain myself, I
will ask my grandfather about that. As for grinding them down... There is an
unneccessary "extrude groove" sorry couldnt think of the word to describe
it, and it is scoring the pistons as you can see. Our remedy is to grind
that extrusion off of the valves to keep it from hitting. All my grandfather
does is build race engines for Jaguars. This is our first experience with a
1275cc and frankly neither one of us knows much about it. I would love some
good info about the car itself (yes Im picking up a book on it) if someone
cares to share any "secrets". Basically its a cheap racecar for me and
whoever else wants to use it as my grandfather runs 2 series one Jaguar
XKE's.

Matt~

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:41 AM, John D. Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:

>  Matt Hagopian wrote:Guys, we pulled the head off before pulling the motor
> out... Look at what we
>  > found! My grandfather was right! Sent the head out to the local guy to
> do
> > some work on it. Pulling that piston out because one of those pieces is
> > actually stuck into it, machining it off/out and putting a weld to cover
> it
> > up. Grinding all of the valve heads down because as you can see the valve
> > heads are hitting.
>
> > Comments? Concerns?
>
> Matt,
> You're kidding, right?  You cannot possibly grind a valve head down enough
> to make the clearance you need!!!  Clearance should be .060", and removing
> that from a valve would severely weaken it, the margin on the valve is
> usually only .030".  The proper fix is to machine valve reliefs in the
> pistons. Was the cam timing checked during the disassembly? Chains don't
> last very long at race rpm, especially single row chains.
> Welding on the pistons of a race engine is another unusual idea that may
> distort the ring lands, and give future ring sealing or sticking problems.
> If you want this engine to last you need to find someone experienced with
> RACE engines.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>



-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 02:18:58 2008
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:18:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!
In-Reply-To: <48BA32B5.1020302@wi.net>
References: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BA32B5.1020302@wi.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090808310118w4f3c3468ye1df1d38a3f0ba7@mail.gmail.com>

I bet I know his postition on high mileage vehicles!!
"A Sprite in EVERY garge!"
Hell, Frank will most likely restore them all

LOL

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:57 AM, David Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> Got my vote!!!  Ummmm, Frank?  What's your position on trade with China?
>
> Hey!  Just wonderin'!  ;-)
>
> Dave
> BurlingtonWI
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
> > Check out the chick with the tatoo!!
> >
> > *http://tinyurl.com/5qskwf*<
> http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>
> >
> > <http://www.inews3.com/play.php?first=Frank&last=Clarici>--
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Aug 31 05:50:35 2008
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 04:50:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0808310019h4f5b4141p6722fcd7bc806e14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
	<87a1f55d0808310019h4f5b4141p6722fcd7bc806e14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9170FDC0F46B4098BFD64087C5C881B0@spider>

If any material is being taken off of the top of one piston, remember that
all four should be about the same weight; reciprocating mass(es) and
balance. ...bil
=======================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+corvallis=peoplepc.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Matt Hagopian
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:19 AM
To: John D. Caffrey
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems

We dont actually have to weld, we took the piece out of the piston and it
didnt break through, smoothing it out. I didnt check the chain myself, I
will ask my grandfather about that. As for grinding them down... There is an
unneccessary "extrude groove" sorry couldnt think of the word to describe
it, and it is scoring the pistons as you can see. Our remedy is to grind
that extrusion off of the valves to keep it from hitting. All my grandfather
does is build race engines for Jaguars. This is our first experience with a
1275cc and frankly neither one of us knows much about it. I would love some
good info about the car itself (yes Im picking up a book on it) if someone
cares to share any "secrets". Basically its a cheap racecar for me and
whoever else wants to use it as my grandfather runs 2 series one Jaguar
XKE's.

Matt~

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Aug 31 06:50:34 2008
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 08:50:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>

But that's the whole point. If you don't like it, don't join. We won't  
miss your dues ;-)

Larry
Pres of Morrisville PA Chapter
Sprite Midget Club USA

On Aug 30, 2008, at 2:20 PM, derf wrote:

> But, please, we
> don't need any more do-nothing clubs.

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club


"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From bighealey at charter.net  Sun Aug 31 07:54:41 2008
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:54:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
Message-ID: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>

I need an M for my MIDGET project

 

I hate to buy the whole set

 

Also wanted

 

Ignition with steering lock, key, switch and pigtail

 

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !

President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

From miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Aug 31 07:55:30 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:55:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves
In-Reply-To: <FBDDA483C86146C098E7D7307D9C02EE@midget>
References: <c41.419df679.35e8b720@aol.com>
	<FBDDA483C86146C098E7D7307D9C02EE@midget>
Message-ID: <8CAD9885D4515FE-1650-4280@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks to all of you who responded with the information on Advanced Distributors. Looks like just the ticket I was hoping for.

Howard


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>
To: Miniac7 at aol.com
Sent: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:47 pm
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves


I have not dealt with him, but Jeff at http://www.advanceddistributors.com/ is supposed to be VERY good.?
?
----- Original Message ----- From: <Miniac7 at aol.com>?
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>?
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:21 PM?
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy Advance Curves?
?
> The topic of ignition timing and advance curves is of great interest to > me.?
> Where in the U.S. is there a good source to have a standard Lucas dizzy > curved?
> to optimize performance for a given engine spec? I had one done for a?
> B-series engine back in the stone ages, and although the guy who did it > is still?
> around, the place and probably the dizzy machine are long gone.?
> Howard Collins?
> Virginia Beach, VA.?
>?
>?
>?
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your > travel?
> deal here.?
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)?
> _______________________________________________?
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html?
>?
> You are subscribed as dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com?
>?
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>?
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 31 08:03:39 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:03:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>

Hello ,

     Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
     presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
     British Columbia,
     Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
     Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
     thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
     which runs north south rather than the columbia river running
     east west for political, economic, and geographic reasons).
     Anyway he wants Eastern Washington and he can have it. and Idaho
     and Montana and Nevada unless Kate actually finishes her ritual
     with used motor oil, under the full moon, with lucas lighting
     dancing and chanting semi-nude... ... heck he can have wyoming
     too but there is a guy in  South Dakota who made it (Kurt Apley)
     to LotO so he may have a prior claim on the Dakotas...

     Youse guys who live back east .. (Colorado, Kansas, and points
     beyond)  divide up your meager little parcels as YOU see fit.

     and the Californians (I hesitate to call 'em californicators) can
     split that up too. i'll never lay any claim to ANY of THAT.

     Arizona, New Mexico, Utah (hey don't we have a lister in Utah..
     better speak up before KATE finishes) are all up for grabs. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Keep America Beautiful ... emigrate.

From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 31 08:16:08 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
References: <7402872.1220096491338.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
	<87a1f55d0808310019h4f5b4141p6722fcd7bc806e14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D94155C4729F49F3AD0A303381297439@personal>

Wow, a grandfather we would all like to have. Oh wait I'm it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Hagopian" <mhagopian at hoppetool.com>
To: "John D. Caffrey" <jdc6 at lehigh.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems


> We dont actually have to weld, we took the piece out of the piston and it
> didnt break through, smoothing it out. I didnt check the chain myself, I
> will ask my grandfather about that. As for grinding them down... There is 
> an
> unneccessary "extrude groove" sorry couldnt think of the word to describe
> it, and it is scoring the pistons as you can see. Our remedy is to grind
> that extrusion off of the valves to keep it from hitting. All my 
> grandfather
> does is build race engines for Jaguars. This is our first experience with 
> a
> 1275cc and frankly neither one of us knows much about it. I would love 
> some
> good info about the car itself (yes Im picking up a book on it) if someone
> cares to share any "secrets". Basically its a cheap racecar for me and
> whoever else wants to use it as my grandfather runs 2 series one Jaguar
> XKE's.
>
> Matt~
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 7:41 AM, John D. Caffrey <jdc6 at lehigh.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Matt Hagopian wrote:Guys, we pulled the head off before pulling the 
>> motor
>> out... Look at what we
>>  > found! My grandfather was right! Sent the head out to the local guy to
>> do
>> > some work on it. Pulling that piston out because one of those pieces is
>> > actually stuck into it, machining it off/out and putting a weld to 
>> > cover
>> it
>> > up. Grinding all of the valve heads down because as you can see the 
>> > valve
>> > heads are hitting.
>>
>> > Comments? Concerns?
>>
>> Matt,
>> You're kidding, right?  You cannot possibly grind a valve head down 
>> enough
>> to make the clearance you need!!!  Clearance should be .060", and 
>> removing
>> that from a valve would severely weaken it, the margin on the valve is
>> usually only .030".  The proper fix is to machine valve reliefs in the
>> pistons. Was the cam timing checked during the disassembly? Chains don't
>> last very long at race rpm, especially single row chains.
>> Welding on the pistons of a race engine is another unusual idea that may
>> distort the ring lands, and give future ring sealing or sticking 
>> problems.
>> If you want this engine to last you need to find someone experienced with
>> RACE engines.
>> John
>> Fogelsville, PA
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Matt Hagopian
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net
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From jlaird237 at cox.net  Sun Aug 31 08:16:52 2008
From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:16:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <48B94686.29770.163DF26@dmg.bossig.com><5f00d9910808301313lf776b3bp56f0f90046b4dcd7@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0808301344x58be3544v7597f07ee1b74818@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BA325F.5090100@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <8C8C33E0575D46058EF3FB3E542B8DFE@personal>

How about a live web cam?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club


> The next full moon is 9/15.  Who all is coming to my initiation ceremony?
>
> Kate
>> (Some have argued for initiations involving
>> semi-naked, pagan rituals under the full moon but that would be up to 
>> each
>> President).
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 31 08:19:30 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:19:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com><97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <2B29E415CECD40F284993159FBA0E4FB@midget>

Heck, are we doing a land grab here? Please read the non-existent fine print 
(nothing finer than invisible, right?) that states that you are responsible 
to supply service and spare parts to all worthy Spridgeteers within your 
territory.

Also, presidents are expected to send emissaries to club projects like Holy 
Spirite. Washington is not considered a worthy rep, although Uncle Ben tends 
to get along quite well in those groups.
David Lieb 

From miniac7 at aol.com  Sun Aug 31 08:27:08 2008
From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:27:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8CAD98CC878CA4C-1650-4345@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com>

In no way should it be misconstrued that I do not disagree. Thank you.

Howard Collins, President
Southeastern Virginia Chapter
Sprite-Midget Club USA




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:03 am
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club



Hello ,

     Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
     presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
     British Columbia,
     Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
     Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
     thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
     which runs north south rather than the columbia river running
     east west for political, economic, and geographic reasons).
     Anyway he wants Eastern Washington and he can have it. and Idaho
     and Montana and Nevada unless Kate actually finishes her ritual
     with used motor oil, under the full moon, with lucas lighting
     dancing and chanting semi-nude... ... heck he can have wyoming
     too but there is a guy in  South Dakota who made it (Kurt Apley)
     to LotO so he may have a prior claim on the Dakotas...

     Youse guys who live back east .. (Colorado, Kansas, and points
     beyond)  divide up your meager little parcels as YOU see fit.

     and the Californians (I hesitate to call 'em californicators) can
     split that up too. i'll never lay any claim to ANY of THAT.

     Arizona, New Mexico, Utah (hey don't we have a lister in Utah..
     better speak up before KATE finishes) are all up for grabs. 

-- 
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 31 10:16:32 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:16:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] At last! A candidate we can believe in!!
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090808310118w4f3c3468ye1df1d38a3f0ba7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808301350x733da4e2hedef3a7c8cc53c53@mail.gmail.com>
	<48BA32B5.1020302@wi.net>
	<e98d88090808310118w4f3c3468ye1df1d38a3f0ba7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BAC3E0.6000208@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> "A Sprite in EVERY garge!"
> Hell, Frank will most likely restore them all
>
>   
Ge, I thought I already did restore them all ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 10:15:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:15:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gustav
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>

All you folks in Louisiana, east Texas, southwestern Arkansas and
southeastern Oklahoma good luck and stay safe....  I've been looking at the
models and the data and the present forecast track for Gustav looks pretty
reasonable for the next 60 hours. If you are in the south Louisiana delta
area I hope you are already getting the hell outta Dodge. The rest of the
area is going to see a LOT of rain and at least some wind as the storm moves
to near Center, TX by Wednesday morning and then drifts west toward the area
south of Tyler, TX to die.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/144814.shtml?5day#contents

Ya'll stay safe!!
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Aug 31 10:46:24 2008
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:46:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8269A2BA-6230-48E3-8ADE-B1CD15CC5F6F@comcast.net>

Greeeaaattt...  ya wanna know how close we are to Center and Tyler?   
No mud slides, no snow storms, no earthquakes, no big  wildfires and  
we get drenched by Hurricane remnants.. could be worse..

Lester

Noah, how long can you tread water??


On Aug 31, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> All you folks in Louisiana, east Texas, southwestern Arkansas and
> southeastern Oklahoma good luck and stay safe....  I've been looking  
> at the
> models and the data and the present forecast track for Gustav looks  
> pretty
> reasonable for the next 60 hours. If you are in the south Louisiana  
> delta
> area I hope you are already getting the hell outta Dodge. The rest  
> of the
> area is going to see a LOT of rain and at least some wind as the  
> storm moves
> to near Center, TX by Wednesday morning and then drifts west toward  
> the area
> south of Tyler, TX to die.
>
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/144814.shtml?5day#contents
>
> Ya'll stay safe!!
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 31 10:59:20 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:59:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gustav
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90795D2382384676B68A1C12EDF4586F@midget>

> If you are in the south Louisiana delta
> area I hope you are already getting the hell outta Dodge.

Jim,
All the rest of us ARE the hell outa Dodge. I thought you would be too by 
now. 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 11:03:50 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:03:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <90795D2382384676B68A1C12EDF4586F@midget>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
	<90795D2382384676B68A1C12EDF4586F@midget>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808311003m7b31c1d3v8908f8297282cab4@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah... Well....   So did we. But when this plan for retirement came
together we
didn't know the housing market was about to be flushed down the commode.
I just can't afford to take a huge loss on the house so we sit and wait, I
guess....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM, David Lieb <dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>wrote:

> If you are in the south Louisiana delta
>> area I hope you are already getting the hell outta Dodge.
>>
>
> Jim,
> All the rest of us ARE the hell outa Dodge. I thought you would be too by
> now.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 11:34:32 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <052001c90b8d$22c32b40$81a30644@internetpc>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
	<052001c90b8d$22c32b40$81a30644@internetpc>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert D. Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:

>   Jim,
>
> What are the chances that New Orleans will have floods again like last
> time?
>
>





Bob,

Forecasting the storm track based on large scale atmospheric conditions is
difficult. Trying to figure out if, when, where, and how all the levees will
react to the storm surge and rain is neigh on to impossible. I wouldn't even
attempt it. Best to get the hell outta areas that are below sea level. If it
doesn't flood, nothing much is lost when you return. If it does, then at
least you are safe.

The stories going around after Katrina were that the flooding which occurred
was predicted some years ago but that prediction was ignored. That is true
to a point. About 10 different hydrological models are run annually on the
New Orleans area. A few years ago, one of them did in fact predict a
scenario like what happened. But none of the others did.  Which would you
believe?  The one, or the nine?   ;-)

If you live below sea level, next to a sea, and are in the path of a
hurricane, that is reason enough to flee. You can't micromanage mother
nature (this part of town will flood - that part won't).

FWIW, I wouldn't live in New Orleans for all the tea in China.  Of course, I
wouldn't live a;ong the gulf coast, along the Mississippi or west of the San
Andreas fault either.....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Aug 31 11:51:23 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:51:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
	<052001c90b8d$22c32b40$81a30644@internetpc>
	<43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48BADA1B.80506@frontiernet.net>

No hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, mosquitoes, fleas, 
snakes, virtually no crime, and 350+ days of sunshine a year.  I think 
I'll stay where I am.  Last year was the first time I needed 4 hoofed 
drive to get to the store. If the first storm hadn't buried the plow 
while I was sleeping, I wouldn't have needed it then.

Kate
>
> FWIW, I wouldn't live in New Orleans for all the tea in China.  Of course, I
> wouldn't live a;ong the gulf coast, along the Mississippi or west of the San
> Andreas fault either.....    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> _______________________________________________

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Aug 31 12:22:57 2008
From: nases at verizon.net (nases)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:22:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 outside mirrors
References: <688D8DA2-40D9-4A6C-8C12-019C627E954B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>

> Does the Raydyot style mirror with the 1/4" thread stem mount in the  
> Bugeye windscreen post hole?
>
> I never liked the view in the fender mirrors and want to mount one  
> closer without drilling the door.  I'm not partial to the Raydyots  
> but I am looking for one soon.  Any suggestions?  The HD ones that  
> are used are NLA right?
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 12:55:43 2008
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] This one might have possibilities - BE in GA
Message-ID: <603048.44945.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&viewitem=&item=33026
6872629
 
NFI of course.

From pelliott at innercite.com  Sun Aug 31 16:02:22 2008
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:02:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
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	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>

I'm sorry Bill, But I have already be anointed and have taken office on the
Oregon Coast, However My kingdom only extends to areas worth governing,
(about 30 miles inland), the rest is yours.
 Anyone entering into this realm is required to pay a tribute to the Club
King in the form of a Dark beer. (or maybe a shrubbery.)



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Bill L
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:04 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club

Hello ,

     Speaking of which, i was informed that Though i CLAIM the
     presidency of the Pacific Northwest, including the territory of
     British Columbia,
     Washington, Oregon and Idaho, ... Dave G. is taking Eastern
     Washington (Hey, as an aside almost everyone in Both WA and OR
     thinks the states would be better split by the cascade range
     which runs north south rather than the columbia river running

From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU  Sun Aug 31 16:29:01 2008
From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:29:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
Message-ID: <12794521.1220221741941.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>

 Matt Hagopian wrote:------------------------------------------------------------------------We dont actually have to weld, we took the piece out of the piston and it didnt break through, smoothing it out. I didnt check the chain myself, I will ask my grandfather about that. As for grinding them down... There is an unneccessary "extrude groove" sorry couldnt think of the word to describe it, and it is scoring the pistons as you can see. Our remedy is to grind that extrusion off of the valves to keep it from hitting. All my grandfather does is build race engines for Jaguars. This is our first experience with a 1275cc and frankly neither one of us knows much about it. I would love some good info about the car itself (yes Im picking up a book on it) if someone cares to share any "secrets". Basically its a cheap racecar for me and whoever else wants to use it as my grandfather runs 2 series one Jaguar XKE's.

Matt,
It sounds like you might be describing a Rimflow valve, designed to discourage reverse flow with high duration cams.  There s a lot of extra material on the head of those valves, and it would still be OK as long as it didn't bend. The Rimflow's have a narrow undercut stem, and have been described as a "Penny on a stick". You will see right away if it is bent when you attempt to reface it. A good book to check out for A-series modifications is "Tuning BL's A-Series Engine" by David Vizard, ISBN 0 85429 4147. Let us know how you make out, and good luck. The season is getting short.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 31 16:38:52 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:38:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
	<01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
Message-ID: <1417100255.20080831153852@pacifier.com>

Hello Patrick,

     If all you guys want to carve CHUNKS out of the Pacific
     Northwest, do it at high speed down Spritely roads. The more
     irregular the lines in the territory, the better off we will all
     be..... Nevertheless, despite the claims of these other
     potentates, presidents though they may be, i STILL claim
     Presidency of the PACIFIC NORTHWEST. If --I-- am travelling
     through, I expect to be treated with dignity and respect and NOT
     passed by,  by other "rulers" when i am broken down on the side
     of the road in YOUR "areas of jurisdiction". ..

     Wow .. How are youse guys in Chicago handling all this Mr. Leib? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Famous last words: 'You saw a WHAT around the corner?!' 

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 31 17:49:34 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:49:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
	<052001c90b8d$22c32b40$81a30644@internetpc> 
	<43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W30CE9085FAA993C4C20487CA5D0@phx.gbl>

Jim
As for "west of the San Andreas" remember that when the big one comes that we
in SoCal will be sitting pretty while everything east of the San Andreas will
sink into the Atlantic!!! :)

Billm

> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:32 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert D. Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:
>
> >   Jim,
> >
> > What are the chances that New Orleans will have floods again like last
> > time?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Forecasting the storm track based on large scale atmospheric conditions is
> difficult. Trying to figure out if, when, where, and how all the levees
will
> react to the storm surge and rain is neigh on to impossible. I wouldn't
even
> attempt it. Best to get the hell outta areas that are below sea level. If
it
> doesn't flood, nothing much is lost when you return. If it does, then at
> least you are safe.
>
> The stories going around after Katrina were that the flooding which
occurred
> was predicted some years ago but that prediction was ignored. That is true
> to a point. About 10 different hydrological models are run annually on the
> New Orleans area. A few years ago, one of them did in fact predict a
> scenario like what happened. But none of the others did.  Which would you
> believe?  The one, or the nine?   ;-)
>
> If you live below sea level, next to a sea, and are in the path of a
> hurricane, that is reason enough to flee. You can't micromanage mother
> nature (this part of town will flood - that part won't).
>
> FWIW, I wouldn't live in New Orleans for all the tea in China.  Of course,
I
> wouldn't live a;ong the gulf coast, along the Mississippi or west of the
San
> Andreas fault either.....    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> _______________________________________________
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From nory1 at adelphia.net  Sun Aug 31 19:03:32 2008
From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:03:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com>
	<083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com>
	<083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>
	<5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com>
	<97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com>
	<191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <DAF698EC-0698-42B5-BE7C-46D93EEC4E6B@adelphia.net>

I'm guessing I can claim presidency of the Western New York Chapter!

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Aug 31 17:55:15 2008
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:55:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
	<052001c90b8d$22c32b40$81a30644@internetpc> 
	<43840a7e0808311034m2e9ece86jec8fe82f2a682b34@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W25FCA563C3A5319ABA71A3CA5D0@phx.gbl>

Jim
As for "west of the San Andreas" remember that when the big one
comes that we in SoCal will be sitting pretty while everything east of
the San Andreas will sink into the Atlantic!!! :)

Billm

> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:34:32 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Robert D. Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:
>
> >   Jim,
> >
> > What are the chances that New Orleans will have floods again like last
> > time?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Forecasting the storm track based on large scale atmospheric conditions is
> difficult. Trying to figure out if, when, where, and how all the levees
will
> react to the storm surge and rain is neigh on to impossible. I wouldn't
even
> attempt it. Best to get the hell outta areas that are below sea level. If
it
> doesn't flood, nothing much is lost when you return. If it does, then at
> least you are safe.
>
> The stories going around after Katrina were that the flooding which
occurred
> was predicted some years ago but that prediction was ignored. That is true
> to a point. About 10 different hydrological models are run annually on the
> New Orleans area. A few years ago, one of them did in fact predict a
> scenario like what happened. But none of the others did.  Which would you
> believe?  The one, or the nine?   ;-)
>
> If you live below sea level, next to a sea, and are in the path of a
> hurricane, that is reason enough to flee. You can't micromanage mother
> nature (this part of town will flood - that part won't).
>
> FWIW, I wouldn't live in New Orleans for all the tea in China.  Of course,
I
> wouldn't live a;ong the gulf coast, along the Mississippi or west of the
San
> Andreas fault either.....    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Aug 31 19:41:33 2008
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:41:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 outside mirrors
In-Reply-To: <F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>
References: <688D8DA2-40D9-4A6C-8C12-019C627E954B@gmail.com>
	<F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48BB484D.5080700@comcast.net>

nases wrote:
>> Does the Raydyot style mirror with the 1/4" thread stem mount in the  
>> Bugeye windscreen post hole?
>>
>>     
Phil

I have a flat lucas *style* mirror with a stem mounted thru the post on 
the 58.
I drilled and threaded the windshield post base for the cone shaped 
mirror on the 59.
Motorcycle mirrors with a stem of no more than 5/16" will fit the post hole.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ

From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com  Sun Aug 31 17:37:29 2008
From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 18:37:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
References: <259439787.20080829204459@pacifier.com><083020081136.10793.48B930C3000795C300002A2922230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><118932693.20080830072150@pacifier.com><083020081758.17821.48B98A4A000ACE630000459D22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><5f00d9910808301120t210ccf26qd4558f3bc8d487b4@mail.gmail.com><97779004-57EA-4D95-8EEC-136625E4A6A2@phillymgclub.com><191161973.20080831070339@pacifier.com><01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
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>     Wow .. How are youse guys in Chicago handling all this Mr. Leib?

Ya no, wen mi sirname be won leter differnt'n yourn, woulda thot ya coulda 
spelt it rite ;-)

So far, no one is disputing my claim to Palatine, but, since I know that 
there are two other Bugeyes in town, that could change. Even if you limit it 
to those who were at the LotO event, Trish might look at these messages when 
she gets back from her camping weekend and depose me. I guess the great 
Pacific NorthWest has proven the wisdom of the edict from the Grand Poohbah 
who limited each president's jurisdiction to the confines of his cocpit! 
Unfortunately, Trish considers that HER cockpit, so I am still out of luck. 
After all, SHE drove it to MO...
David Lieb 

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 31 21:25:03 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:25:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <01b301c90bb5$405506b0$c0ff1410$@com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNEEIIDAAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<(or maybe a shrubbery.)>>

A 'Yew' for you, Patrick???

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Aug 31 21:23:11 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:23:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <1417100255.20080831153852@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEIIDAAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<i STILL claim Presidency of the PACIFIC NORTHWEST. If --I-- am travelling
through,...>>

At LEAST all of us DO know your 'travels' will NOT be east of the
Rockies ,so Bleeeeessssssssttttttttt !!!!!

<<How are youse guys in Chicago handling all this Mr. Leib? >>

EASY Bill !!!

David has from the Ike & Ron Regan North to Cheeseland and & from the lake
to Quad Cities!!!  I have from the Ike & Ron Reagan South to I-80 from the
tip of the lake to Ole Man!!  'Hopper & David have to figure out WHAT Ron
gets as he lives almost on the border!!!

Jethro (Quincy, IL) has to figure out what he needs to 'carve out' as there
is also a Spridgeteer in Springfield (the seat of evil/crooked politics
where a certain VERY Freshman U.S.Senator got his "legs"<G>)!!!

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 18:09:11 2008
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:09:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A - update
Message-ID: <113415.38252.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I got this from Paul today.........
 
Hi Vigil,
 
Tomorrow I go back into the hospital.  They are calling for about a 3 1/2 week
stay this time.  Hope it's a bit less, as it gets REALLY boring!!  So, I'll
not likely be writing anything for a few weeks.
 
Later, Paul A

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Aug 31 21:06:43 2008
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:06:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [SPAM][midgetsprite] Gustav
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W30CE9085FAA993C4C20487CA5D0@phx.gbl>
References: <43840a7e0808310915i32dc4369w2fbd0430fe71b52f@mail.gmail.com>
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	<BLU107-W30CE9085FAA993C4C20487CA5D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <48BB5C43.6080209@frontiernet.net>

Boy do you have that wrong!  Winnemucca will have an ocean front, but it 
ain't gonna be the Atlantic.

Kate

Bill Masquelier wrote:
> Jim
> As for "west of the San Andreas" remember that when the big one comes that we
> in SoCal will be sitting pretty while everything east of the San Andreas will
> sink into the Atlantic!!! :)
>
> Billm

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Aug 31 17:45:32 2008
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:45:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <1D5722222863480CBA5F3F88D2617158@midget>
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Hello David,

     OOOPS.. Lieb.. Lieb  Lieb  Lieb.. D'oH. ..

     (reminds me of a joke.. you know why Polish mothers are so
     strong?.............
     From raising DUMBELLS!  Har Har Har)

     I think it would totally against everything that WE all stand for
     to limit membership IN ANY WAY. Just because some of us were able
     to make the GRAND PILGRIMAGE doesnt' make us any more fit than
     anyone else. The Grand PooBah has it correct. ..Lords of all we
     survey from the seats of our sprites)
     I see that your realm IS limited and most of us would agree with
     TRISH if it ever came up for a consensus. YOU deal with HER.


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Oops. My brain just hit a bad sector 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 17:26:16 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] My bug eye problems
In-Reply-To: <12794521.1220221741941.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu>
Message-ID: <355598.74102.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> Matt Hagopian
>wrote: --------We
> to describe it, and it is scoring the pistons as you can
> see. Our remedy is to grind that extrusion off of the valves

Matt,
Another thing I;m sure someone has pointed out - you can't post pictures to the list. If you can put them on flickr or some other similar site where we can see them, we may be able to help a bit more.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 17:31:02 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gimme an "M" !!
In-Reply-To: <8BFCB4FECADD43B4955B5484772C43C0@TRACY>
Message-ID: <82646.25384.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:
> President AHCUSA 

Tracy,

I don't have one, but I did want to congratulate you - the last Healey club official on the list complained that his letter set did not have an "M" and came with a "W" instead. 

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 31 21:56:01 2008
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:56:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
In-Reply-To: <CAEFIEOOGMCKMBLEKCFNAEIIDAAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <673206.80801.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> tip of the lake to Ole Man!!  'Hopper & David have
> to figure out WHAT Ron
> gets as he lives almost on the border!!!

He hijacked some Holy Sprite towing duty from two Italians (me and Grandeffo). We're watching our turf very carefully. 

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Aug 31 22:29:28 2008
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:29:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 outside mirrors
In-Reply-To: <F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>
References: <688D8DA2-40D9-4A6C-8C12-019C627E954B@gmail.com>
	<F5098792-3CD8-44E5-8DC1-1C705BB45482@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <48BB6FA8.8020904@wi.net>

YUP!!!  Look at mine from LOTO or better yet, December on our calendar.  
Phil I'll send a picture.
I mounted it in the rear hole so I could get a nut on it.  The front 
hole is difficult being a captive nut.

Dave 59 :{) leaf green
Burlington WI




nases wrote:
>> Does the Raydyot style mirror with the 1/4" thread stem mount in the  
>> Bugeye windscreen post hole?
>>
>> I never liked the view in the fender mirrors and want to mount one  
>> closer without drilling the door.  I'm not partial to the Raydyots  
>> but I am looking for one soon.  Any suggestions?  The HD ones that  
>> are used are NLA right?
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA

From herby at herbytoys.com  Sun Aug 31 22:34:58 2008
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:34:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] An LBJC?
Message-ID: <48B64AB048E9427E8E23FE012CBE6336@HERBYZ>

This is interesting. A Honda with an A series.

 

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/819154343.html

 

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 23:23:23 2008
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:23:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite-Midget Club
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On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

If all you guys want to carve CHUNKS out of the Pacific Northwest, do it at
high speed down Spritely roads. --


But do it with a FISH!!!


Kent
1960 Bugeye
1973 Midget - donor card signed in front of a notary!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Aug 31 23:46:19 2008
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:46:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite...
Message-ID: <43840a7e0808312246r72b37a79sf5f52932755111c8@mail.gmail.com>

Gang,

I've done a little update on the web pages for the Holy Sprite project. Per
Frank, the response has been overwhelming!  A list of donors, volunteers and
helpers of all kinds is now linked to the page. Please let me know if I
missed you. I think I have everyone but the list is so long I could easily
of missed someone. Thank you all for everything!  You should all be
saints!   Well....  close anyway....   ;-)

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Holy_Sprite/Holy_Sprite.html

-- 
Cheers!!
Jim