From miniac7 at aol.com Tue Apr 1 05:03:08 2008 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:03:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations In-Reply-To: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8CA62077C41B09E-11C8-298C@FWM-D14.sysops.aol.com> Larry, It sure would be?nice if someone (you) could post the highlights of his talk. Especially if he discusses the lack of ZDDP in modern oils and how that relates to the run-in and break-in of recently rebuilt flat tappet engines with new cams. I'm going through the oil selection process right now, and my head is spinning. Thanks, Howard Collins -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels To: Spridgets List ; MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; MG List ; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:06 pm Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on recent oil formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI on Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's free and coffee and doughnuts will be served. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html Larry Daniels You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevorwj at insightbb.com Tue Apr 1 05:13:27 2008 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:13:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Great Healey Event in the Bluegrass -including Sprites on their way to the Jubilee Message-ID: <8c1781040804010513o1a0a53eeu3cb2a17d907289c6@mail.gmail.com> SpringThing is on its way! Have you made your travel plans? Taxes are due and so is your SpringThing Early Registration! SpringThing 2008 promises to be a fantastic experience for our guests; we hope you'll join us. With an exciting new format we'll see more of the Bluegrass State and many fun sites of interest than ever before. The twists and turns of our famous backroads have nothing on this year's SpringThing experience. We'll see two world-famous distilleries, numerous historic sites and enjoy the ever-famous Bluegrass Club hospitality. Our team of organizers has worked outside the box on this event, creating exciting new twists on the usual event standards. You will be amazed at all the fun in store. If you're a Sprite fan, join the caravan of Bugs and others to Sprite Jubilee on Sunday morning. SpringThing will be the perfect beginning to your extended weekend of festivities! Visit www.SpringThing.info for more information. Bluegrass Austin Healey Club www.springthing.info www.bluegrassclub.com information at bluegrassclub.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Apr 1 05:40:47 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 08:40:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations In-Reply-To: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2oj93v@email.mtu.edu> Well, this sounds like a good time! I'm with Howard - in need of oil. I've been looking at the local "auto parts" stores. I asked about the Castrol for Classic Cars, which they didn't have, and was told; "We sell/stock what we are sent." Not much help. Larry, will you take "call in questions?" Good, here's mine - I asked this awhile back but am still wondering. Our gear boxes call for motor oil as the lube. Does it make any difference in a gear box longevity that the ZDDP has been removed from the oil? Coffee and doughnuts? Hmmm. I'll bet you guys have a coffee maker like the one that is the subject of the Dilbert cartoon for yesterday and today! www.dilbert.com. At 10:06 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote: >Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on recent oil >formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. > >The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI on >Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. > >If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's free and >coffee and doughnuts will be served. > Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 06:10:34 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:10:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations In-Reply-To: <6o4ucu$2oj93v@email.mtu.edu> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <6o4ucu$2oj93v@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Ok, I called Castrol and Shell about this a few weeks ago. The Castrol for Classic Cars is a full synthetic, so your rings will not seat on a newly rebuilt engine. At this point, Castrol DOES NOT offer any oils compatible for breaking in a new engine and bedding the cam. This was told to me by one of their engineers (the numbers kind, not the train kind) Shell recommends their Rotella diesel oil for breaking in a new motor and cam. I don't recall the weight values off the top of my head, but I have two gallon jugs on the counter in the garage at home, if anyone is interested. The oil I have has 1300 ppm ZDDP, if that helps any. Brad OH, I put this same stuff in the tranny, just to be sure. Cuz it's rebuilt too. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > Well, this sounds like a good time! I'm with Howard - in need of oil. > I've been looking at the local "auto parts" stores. I asked about the > Castrol for Classic Cars, which they didn't have, and was told; "We > sell/stock what we are sent." Not much help. Larry, will you take > "call in questions?" Good, here's mine - I asked this awhile back but > am still wondering. Our gear boxes call for motor oil as the lube. > Does it make any difference in a gear box longevity that the ZDDP has > been removed from the oil? > > Coffee and doughnuts? Hmmm. I'll bet you guys have a coffee maker > like the one that is the subject of the Dilbert cartoon for yesterday > and today! www.dilbert.com. > > At 10:06 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote: > >Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on > recent oil > >formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. > > > >The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI > on > >Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. > > > >If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's > free and > >coffee and doughnuts will be served. > > > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 1 06:41:01 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:41:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <6o4ucu$2oj93v@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <004301c893fe$079cc530$6401a8c0@Larry> Tim, I'll ask him. If anybody else has specific questions and can't make it, let me know and I'll ask. After the session I'll drop a note as to what he had to say. By the way, Tim, our coffemaker isn't anything special, but we do have a British pub in our clubhouse. The tech session is over at noon which is, coincidentally, time to pop a cold one. If that isn't enough to get you to cross over to the good side of the lake, nothing will do it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: "Larry Daniels" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Well, this sounds like a good time! I'm with Howard - in need of oil. I've been looking at the local "auto parts" stores. I asked about the Castrol for Classic Cars, which they didn't have, and was told; "We sell/stock what we are sent." Not much help. Larry, will you take "call in questions?" Good, here's mine - I asked this awhile back but am still wondering. Our gear boxes call for motor oil as the lube. Does it make any difference in a gear box longevity that the ZDDP has been removed from the oil? Coffee and doughnuts? Hmmm. I'll bet you guys have a coffee maker like the one that is the subject of the Dilbert cartoon for yesterday and today! www.dilbert.com. At 10:06 PM 3/31/2008, you wrote: >Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on recent >oil >formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. > >The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI on >Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. > >If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's free >and >coffee and doughnuts will be served. > Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From trevorwj at insightbb.com Tue Apr 1 07:03:17 2008 From: trevorwj at insightbb.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:03:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SpringThing (Bluegrass Healey) - Several Sprites on their way to Jubilee will be there. Message-ID: <8c1781040804010703m6d91cdb6g11c3d027495b0802@mail.gmail.com> SpringThing is on its way! Have you made your travel plans? Taxes are due and so is your SpringThing Early Registration! SpringThing 2008 promises to be a fantastic experience for our guests; we hope you'll join us. With an exciting new format we'll see more of the Bluegrass State and many fun sites of interest than ever before. The twists and turns of our famous backroads have nothing on this year's SpringThing experience. We'll see two world-famous distilleries, numerous historic sites and enjoy the ever-famous Bluegrass Club hospitality. Our team of organizers has worked outside the box on this event, creating exciting new twists on the usual event standards. You will be amazed at all the fun in store. If you're a Sprite fan, join the caravan of Bugs and others to Sprite Jubilee on Sunday morning. SpringThing will be the perfect beginning to your extended weekend of festivities! Visit www.SpringThing.info for more information. From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Apr 1 09:04:41 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:04:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Jumble Message-ID: <601739908.20080401090441@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Usually Paul A. keeps track of this but with the "big one" swap meet in Portland this weekend (ALL CARS) its time to remember that the AUTOJUMBLE--an All British Swap Meet-- is coming up on the last sunday in April, the 27th sponsored by, if memory serves, the MG "T" club of Oregon. Its the first British event of the year in the Northwest and a chance to see all the folks again and what they've been up to over the winter. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 1 09:10:37 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:10:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye HP numbers Message-ID: <000601c89412$ed3bf1b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Since the dyno appointment, I've calibrated the Megasquirt to match up to the dyno numbers. After logging several runs out on a level road with foot-to-the-floor passes in all gears, I analyzed the data for each gear individually and found that bugsy is generating 110HP at the wheels in 2nd, 3rd and 4th at about 4500rpm and 10lbs of boost. For a minute there I thought I was getting 130HP at the wheels, but putting the CORRECT car/driver weight, rear-end and gear ratios and smoothing the curve brought me back to earth. That said, I'm done messing with the fuel and timing tables and on to hooking up the last bells and whistles that are on the circuit board. This weekend I got the computer to take over the electric radiator fan. Works great, set the "on" point at any temp you want, set the hysteresis, and Bob's your uncle. The only remaining problem is the tachometer. With the spark circuit in the Megasquirt, you can't drive the elec. tach from the coil neg. side as usual. I added a tach driver circuit as recommended, but so far, still no tach movement. Hardly a deal breaker since I can tell the RPM by ear pretty much, but I'm not done fussing with it yet. Total victory will be mine!!! Glen Byrns From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 1 09:16:36 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye HP numbers References: <000601c89412$ed3bf1b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <005601c89413$c3228cd0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > That said, I'm done messing with the fuel and timing tables and on to > hooking > up the last bells and whistles that are on the circuit board. This > weekend I > got the computer to take over the electric radiator fan. Works great, set > the > "on" point at any temp you want, set the hysteresis, and Bob's your uncle. > The only remaining problem is the tachometer. With the spark circuit in > the > Megasquirt, you can't drive the elec. tach from the coil neg. side as > usual. > I added a tach driver circuit as recommended, but so far, still no tach > movement. Hardly a deal breaker since I can tell the RPM by ear pretty > much, > but I'm not done fussing with it yet. Total victory will be mine!!! You are my hero! From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Apr 1 09:56:18 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:56:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] first post/blown head gasket? Message-ID: <040120081656.17763.47F26932000583BD000045632216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> My first post! I am Very new to MG's and I am reviving a long mistreated 74 midgit. This weekend I took it out for a nice drive and other than some occasional bucking that i attributed to water in the tank (i live in PA) she drove fine. But when I got home I saw that I was leaking antifreeze out from under neath the overflow bottle cap. Once the car cooled i heard a gurgling sound. when it completely cooled I opened the radiator and saw that it was filled. The coolant was nice and clear/green. And the oil was also clear. I have blown head gaskets in other cars (nissan sentra) and when I opened the radiator it looked like pudding, but an all experts.com mg car repair site said it might be the head gasket. the temp never registered other than normal and my oil pressure was fine. any ideas or is it something as simple as the cap isnt on tight enough? thanks ryan From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 09:58:59 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:58:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye HP numbers In-Reply-To: <000601c89412$ed3bf1b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c89412$ed3bf1b0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804010958o1a250c3ha8d6d8ea356087ac@mail.gmail.com> 110HP at the wheels is excellent. Some famous drag racer never used a tach. It is nice to see, especially if you have a boost gauge, too, but not necessary at all. Congrats. Now everyone will start(if they haven't already) hounding you for a bolt on kit. Cheers, Derf From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 1 10:04:05 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 10:04:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] first post/blown head gasket? References: <040120081656.17763.47F26932000583BD000045632216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000601c8941a$67043a50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> ? If the radiator AND overflow tank were filled before the drive, then some would certainly overflow once hot from a drive. The overflow tank is designeds to be about half full when cold. As the constantly full radiator heats up, some coolant is pushed into the overflow tank, and as it cools, the gurgle would be coolant from the overflow tank going back into the radiator. Remove the radiator cap, start the engine and look for bubbles as you gently rev the engine. No bubbles, no problem. Glen > My first post! > > I am Very new to MG's and I am reviving a long mistreated 74 midgit. This > weekend I took it out for a nice drive and other than some occasional > bucking that i attributed to water in the tank (i live in PA) she drove > fine. But when I got home I saw that I was leaking antifreeze out from > under neath the overflow bottle cap. Once the car cooled i heard a > gurgling sound. when it completely cooled I opened the radiator and saw > that it was filled. The coolant was nice and clear/green. And the oil > was also clear. > > I have blown head gaskets in other cars (nissan sentra) and when I opened > the radiator it looked like pudding, but an all experts.com mg car repair > site said it might be the head gasket. > > the temp never registered other than normal and my oil pressure was fine. > any ideas or is it something as simple as the cap isnt on tight enough? > thanks > ryan From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 1 10:14:54 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 12:14:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] first post/blown head gasket? References: <040120081656.17763.47F26932000583BD000045632216549976000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <000601c8941a$67043a50$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <005e01c8941b$e8ffdf90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> I am Very new to MG's and I am reviving a long mistreated 74 midgit. >> This >> weekend I took it out for a nice drive and other than some occasional >> bucking that i attributed to water in the tank (i live in PA) she drove >> fine. But when I got home I saw that I was leaking antifreeze out from >> under neath the overflow bottle cap. Once the car cooled i heard a >> gurgling sound. when it completely cooled I opened the radiator and saw >> that it was filled. The coolant was nice and clear/green. And the oil >> was also clear. Ryan, That isn't actually an "overflow bottle", it is an expansion tank. The difference being that the tank is part of the pressurized system. Due to the nature of the car, the radiator is not the highest point of the water system, therefore it does not make an appropriate place for air bubbles to collect or for filling the system. Ideally, the expansion tank should be about half full when cool and the radiator should be full. The cap on the expansion tank is, obviously, the pressure cap for the system and it might not be a bad idea to replace it, since any leakage should have come from the spout off of it rather than the cap. You might also want to do a compression check just to verify the state of the head gasket, although I doubt that it has a problem. David Lieb From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Apr 1 11:04:18 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 13:04:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets Message-ID: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> There is a lot of talk about low-quality fiberglass Bugeye bonnets on the web - wavy surfaces and bad fits. Some of this is old. Does anyone have any recent experience with bonnets from Spridgetech, which are half the cost of those from Speedwell? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 1 11:38:04 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:38:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets In-Reply-To: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> References: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> Message-ID: <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> I am also interested in the answer to that question.. On 1 Apr 2008 at 13:04, Michael Rowe wrote: >> There is a lot of talk about low-quality fiberglass Bugeye bonnets on >> the web - wavy surfaces and bad fits. Some of this is old. Does >> anyone have any recent experience with bonnets from Spridgetech, which >> are half the cost of those from Speedwell? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 1 11:38:04 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 11:38:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets In-Reply-To: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> References: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> Message-ID: <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> I am also interested in the answer to that question.. On 1 Apr 2008 at 13:04, Michael Rowe wrote: >> There is a lot of talk about low-quality fiberglass Bugeye bonnets on >> the web - wavy surfaces and bad fits. Some of this is old. Does >> anyone have any recent experience with bonnets from Spridgetech, which >> are half the cost of those from Speedwell? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 11:41:48 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 11:41:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets In-Reply-To: <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> References: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804011141h63d1fdb2yf4b62637e455cf05@mail.gmail.com> While we're at it, anyone know of Kevlar being used? Herb From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 13:34:09 2008 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 13:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? Message-ID: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello, I am planning on a 5 speed conversion on my Midget next month. I already have the Datsun trans. I have been comparing both Morriservice and Rivergate regarding kits. Both seem comperable, except that Morriservice has a preferred clutch setup. I would like to get a kit from Paul at Morriservice, but unfortunately he is down due to health reasons right now. Opinions? Has anyone dealt with either conversions? Thanks, Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 1 13:44:29 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:44:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804011141h63d1fdb2yf4b62637e455cf05@mail.gmail.com> References: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> <2ad6c6b10804011141h63d1fdb2yf4b62637e455cf05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F29EAD.1010502@comcast.net> WFO Herb wrote: > While we're at it, anyone know of Kevlar being used? > > Geeze, now we want bullet proof bonnets! I have personally seen Spridgetech FG bonnets, they are excellent. I wish I had known of them before I bought a wiener's circle FG bonnet that was pretty much trash in a wooden crate. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 13:46:36 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:46:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804011346j44c00702tc9f0ea9245b4da8@mail.gmail.com> Morriservice. I had one of each kit and would prefer to use Paul A's kit. I have nothing bad to say about Rivergate's kit, though. Paul is a list member and his kit is tops. From cciaffone at verizon.net Tue Apr 1 13:46:40 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:46:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F29F30.4010009@verizon.net> I did the Rivergate conversion many years ago. Wife and I did it actually. Simple, good instructions. The only "machining" was to bore the starter hole. I may be wrong, but I believe the MorrisService conversion requires modification to the flywheel which Rivergate did not. I have not had a problem with tranny or clutch and it's been about ten years now I think. chuck Mike Rivers wrote: > Hello, > > I am planning on a 5 speed conversion on my Midget > next month. I already have the Datsun trans. I have > been comparing both Morriservice and Rivergate > regarding kits. Both seem comperable, except that > Morriservice has a preferred clutch setup. I would > like to get a kit from Paul at Morriservice, but > unfortunately he is down due to health reasons right > now. > > Opinions? Has anyone dealt with either conversions? From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Apr 1 13:54:46 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:54:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets In-Reply-To: <47F29EAD.1010502@comcast.net> References: <393270BBF3F944538F5B8D58073893C8@Home> <47F21E9C.22133.E7EA6C@dmg.bossig.com> <2ad6c6b10804011141h63d1fdb2yf4b62637e455cf05@mail.gmail.com> <47F29EAD.1010502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <014801c8943a$a4441b40$eccc51c0$@com> Last I heard, Spridgetech made WC bonnets. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 3:44 PM To: WFO Herb Cc: Spridget Chat Group Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnets WFO Herb wrote: > While we're at it, anyone know of Kevlar being used? > > Geeze, now we want bullet proof bonnets! I have personally seen Spridgetech FG bonnets, they are excellent. I wish I had known of them before I bought a wiener's circle FG bonnet that was pretty much trash in a wooden crate. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 14:04:25 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <670237.62253.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mike, They both make a 5 speed kit that works. The Morriservice kit seems to be more complete solution. Paul has continually improved his kit. I was going to put a 5 speed in a Morris before i met Paul. Rivergate said i would have to do some modifications on my own. One was a rear cross member support. There is other differences. Paul uses the Datsun clutch - Rivergate uses the BMC - I am sure others can give you more differences. Most people tell me that Paul's product is better overall. I know from buying from Paul - You can not ask for better support. I just put out a message for any one wanting the 5 speed kit to write Paul direct. He son will be up helping him for a week. If Paul has a adapter kit in stock he may be able to send you one. Don't Know - I have nothing to do with MorriService besides being a happy customer. Vigil Mike Rivers wrote: Hello, I am planning on a 5 speed conversion on my Midget next month. I already have the Datsun trans. I have been comparing both Morriservice and Rivergate regarding kits. Both seem comperable, except that Morriservice has a preferred clutch setup. I would like to get a kit from Paul at Morriservice, but unfortunately he is down due to health reasons right now. Opinions? Has anyone dealt with either conversions? Thanks, Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 14:41:28 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:41:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <670237.62253.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <670237.62253.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804011441h48f4032dh48bd51e67928438b@mail.gmail.com> > There is other differences. Paul uses the Datsun clutch - Rivergate uses the BMC - I >am sure others can give you more differences. Most people tell me that Paul's product is better overall. I know from buying from Paul - You can not ask for better support. > I preferred the Datsun clutch setup. It requires machining of the flywheel, which can also be lightened while at the machine shop. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 1 14:51:22 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 16:51:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804011441h48f4032dh48bd51e67928438b@mail.gmail.co m> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <670237.62253.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910804011441h48f4032dh48bd51e67928438b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080401164815.03a08070@nosimport.com> At 04:41 PM 4/1/2008, derf wrote: > > There is other differences. Paul uses the Datsun clutch - > Rivergate uses the BMC - I >am sure others can give you more > differences. Most people tell me that Paul's product is better > overall. I know from buying from Paul - You can not ask for better support. > > > >I preferred the Datsun clutch setup. It requires machining of the >flywheel, which can also be lightened while at the machine shop. By way of clarification, once the Spridget flywheel is machined to take a Datsun clutch cover, from then on you use all 3 pieces of a Datsun clutch. The Soddy Daisey set-up requires a specially turned down Datsun disc to fit the Datsun splines. And a Tee shirt. Peter C. From millerls at ado13.com Tue Apr 1 14:53:36 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:53:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <01fa01c89442$d6f8a170$53997e4c@HP> I have installed both plus a combination of the two. The only real difference is the clutch used. I much prefer the Datsun clutch as presented by Paul. Service from both sellers is acceptable but Paul is better. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rivers" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:34 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? > Hello, > > I am planning on a 5 speed conversion on my Midget > next month. I already have the Datsun trans. I have > been comparing both Morriservice and Rivergate > regarding kits. Both seem comperable, except that > Morriservice has a preferred clutch setup. I would > like to get a kit from Paul at Morriservice, but > unfortunately he is down due to health reasons right > now. > > Opinions? Has anyone dealt with either conversions? > > Thanks, From shop at justbrits.com Tue Apr 1 15:53:48 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:53:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? Message-ID: <0d7c01c8944b$55ad2dd0$6501a8c0@shop> <> As can any other flywheel, Derf!!!! LOL From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Apr 1 14:54:52 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:54:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <251177217.20080401145452@pacifier.com> Hello Mike, as i understand, the difference is that with Paul A.'s kit you use the datsun clutch. this requires that the flywheel be modified. He keeps some in stock, so its generally a trade, yours for his, assuming that yours is in good condition and the condition of the ring gear. ... the rivergate uses a rivergate clutch? (someone enlighten me on this?) that is then only available from rivergate, but i've not heard of anyone ever complain about it. .. over the years it seems that those nearer to rivergate go that route and those closer to portland or. use the morrisservice kit. i've had Paul's kit in my car for about 5 years now. can't imagine driving a sprite without one ever again. i've gone so far as to have a 1275 flywheel machined and ready to go JUST IN CASE i change out my 1098 in the future. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "I didn't mean to have my cheek pierced," said Tom mysteriously. From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Tue Apr 1 16:52:32 2008 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ground straps Message-ID: <284117.60322.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Where should ground straps go on an engine? Mine doesn't have any, and it barely starts with a new sarter and new battery. It just barely turns over... Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From dmeadow at juno.com Tue Apr 1 18:01:58 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:01:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ground straps Message-ID: <20080401.190159.1536.0.dmeadow@juno.com> I don't know if it moved around during the model run, but my 70's Midgets have it going from a bolt in a threaded hole underneath the chassis to the lower slave cylinder mount. On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Joe Lansing writes: > Where should ground straps go on an engine? Mine > doesn't have any, and it barely starts with a new > sarter and new battery. It just barely turns over... > > Joe From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Tue Apr 1 17:37:16 2008 From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 20:37:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British car show in Louisville, Ky Message-ID: <00ca01c89459$b4119330$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca> The featured marque of the 24th annual British Bash car show in Louisville, Ky is Austin Healey. Preregister by May 3rd ans save.Check out the website photos and the online regisitration! www.britishbash.com See you in Louisville on June 6th & 7th. Thanks, British Sports Car Club of Louisville, Ky cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Craig Holmes '08 Bash coordinator From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 1 17:46:07 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 20:46:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice or Rivergate? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080401164815.03a08070@nosimport.com> References: <195889.13779.qm@web56003.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <670237.62253.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910804011441h48f4032dh48bd51e67928438b@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080401164815.03a08070@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <47F2D74F.5010109@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > > > The Soddy Daisey set-up requires a specially turned down Datsun disc > to fit the Datsun splines. > > And a Tee shirt. > > And 6 tubes of silicon caulk -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 18:24:50 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 19:24:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ground straps In-Reply-To: <284117.60322.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <284117.60322.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804011824o4c9daacbs5c5aad94140f11bc@mail.gmail.com> Unless you are doing concourse it doesn't hurt to have more than one ground. One strap and it never hurts to run a good sized wire from the battery terminal to one of the starter mounting bolts. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Joe Lansing wrote: > Where should ground straps go on an engine? Mine > doesn't have any, and it barely starts with a new > sarter and new battery. It just barely turns over... > > Joe > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as derf247 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 1 18:57:59 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:57:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ground straps In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804011824o4c9daacbs5c5aad94140f11bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <284117.60322.qm@web33201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910804011824o4c9daacbs5c5aad94140f11bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47F2E827.5020601@comcast.net> derf wrote: > it never hurts to run a good sized wire from > the battery terminal to one of the starter mounting bolts. > And another from the steering rack bolt to the motor mount for a good horn ground. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 08:26:20 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 10:26:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mad driving skills. Message-ID: <5f00d9910804020826p10cb1054xb6001ff5643a01b2@mail.gmail.com> This guy knows a little about driving. Too bad he had to go and steal a Mustang. He does gets caught in the end. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As4TQp8Fd9E From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Apr 2 09:30:25 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 12:30:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations In-Reply-To: <004301c893fe$079cc530$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <6o4ucu$2oj93v@email.mtu.edu> <004301c893fe$079cc530$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2ooo80@email.mtu.edu> Larry, Here's a John Twist video to prepare you for the oil seminar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2XEpK5HpXQ He had another interesting one where he shows bad cams and talks about them. I think it was the video before this one. Tim At 09:41 AM 4/1/2008, Larry Daniels wrote: >Tim, > >I'll ask him. If anybody else has specific questions and can't make it, let >me know and I'll ask. After the session I'll drop a note as to what he had >to say. > >By the way, Tim, our coffemaker isn't anything special, but we do have a >British pub in our clubhouse. The tech session is over at noon which is, >coincidentally, time to pop a cold one. If that isn't enough to get you to >cross over to the good side of the lake, nothing will do it. > > >Larry Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 11:02:40 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 11:02:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> TIPS ON PUMPING GAS I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.. Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons. Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money. One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount. Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pu mping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt tha t normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money. DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! From sswarin at aol.com Wed Apr 2 11:06:44 2008 From: sswarin at aol.com (sswarin at aol.com) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:06:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets Message-ID: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. Steve Swarin 1974 Midget, now a Bugeye 1967 MGB-GT From dmg at bossig.com Wed Apr 2 11:59:15 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 11:59:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> Steve, As much as I'd like to look at it in person, I just can't manage the fare from WA to PA to have a peek ;-)) Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? TIA On 2 Apr 2008 at 14:06, sswarin at aol.com wrote: >> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May >> 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From p.herder at cox.net Wed Apr 2 12:27:42 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:27:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <47F3DE2E.80708@cox.net> Steve, Than makes two of us (at least) wanting pictures since we cannot make it to Carlisle. TIA! Paul Herder 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS Dave G. wrote: > Steve, > > As much as I'd like to look at it in person, I just can't manage the fare from > WA to PA to have a peek ;-)) > Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? > > TIA > > On 2 Apr 2008 at 14:06, sswarin at aol.com wrote: > >>> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May >>> 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. >>> > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Apr 2 12:32:08 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:32:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> Spridgetech usually has a booth there, so take a truck and pick one up! They're very good, BTW. Peter C = At 01:59 PM 4/2/2008, Dave G. wrote: >Steve, > >As much as I'd like to look at it in person, I just can't manage the >fare from >WA to PA to have a peek ;-)) >Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? > >TIA > >On 2 Apr 2008 at 14:06, sswarin at aol.com wrote: > >> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May > >> 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. > >-- >Dave G. KK7SS >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA >"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. >But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Apr 2 12:34:46 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 12:34:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Herb, I have seen this recommendation for years and it is certainly true if the tanks are above ground or at the surface. But I wonder if that is true for buried tanks. All of the tanks that I have seen at filling stations appear to be at least ten feet below the surface. Caves for instance are close to 50 degrees regardless of the weather outside or the time of year. So it is hard to see where a tank at ten plus feet is going to change temperature in the course of a day. Has someone done a temperature measurement in recent years or is this a carry over recommendation from the early 1900's? Curious minds and all that stuff. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:02 AM, WFO Herb wrote: > Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the > ground temperature is still cold. From kevin at valentinephoto.net Wed Apr 2 14:54:03 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:54:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Checking snopes: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Herb, > > I have seen this recommendation for years and it is certainly true if > the tanks are above ground or at the surface. But I wonder if that > is true for buried tanks. All of the tanks that I have seen at > filling stations appear to be at least ten feet below the surface. > Caves for instance are close to 50 degrees regardless of the weather > outside or the time of year. So it is hard to see where a tank at > ten plus feet is going to change temperature in the course of a day. > Has someone done a temperature measurement in recent years or is this > a carry over recommendation from the early 1900's? > > Curious minds and all that stuff. From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Apr 2 16:27:59 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:27:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations In-Reply-To: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Larry: See if he has any recent virgin oil analysis data to add to his article. It raised a lot of questions when it circulated around the cyberworld last year, but a year of technology is a long time. Oil formulations have continued to change (for the worse?). He's probably got the low down and his recommendations would be worth knowing-- especially down lower on the totem pole where those of us live who don't run Big Red, Deep Purple, or those other $12-a-quart synthos. I'm a big fan of BradPenn oils, but usually look for coupons and sales when I restock the larder. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:07 PM To: Spridgets List; MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; MG List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on recent oil formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI on Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's free and coffee and doughnuts will be served. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html Larry Daniels From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 2 17:05:06 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:05:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <008b01c8951e$60d94b70$6401a8c0@Larry> John, I will add your question to my list that I will ask him. If anybody else has any questions, let me know. BTW, John, I know what you mean about a year being an eternity in technology. Some of the testing on his site was already old last year. I know of several new products in the last 6 months alone and some of the products in his test have since been changed for the worse. I did email him to see if there is any kind of a write-up that I can pass on or update to his website that we can see and this is what he said: Hi Larry, There isn't anything really new, but I'm working on revamping the presentation so it should be better than the one I gave in CA in Feb. I will try to time a revamping of the web site around that same time to help those not in attendance get more info. If possible, I will try to tape the presentation again so that we can post it, even if it's audio only. See you there! Charles Navarro LN Engineering http://www.LNengineering.com Aircooled Precision Performance So... I will let you guys know what I hear and what answers I get to your questions. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" ; ; "MG List" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Larry: See if he has any recent virgin oil analysis data to add to his article. It raised a lot of questions when it circulated around the cyberworld last year, but a year of technology is a long time. Oil formulations have continued to change (for the worse?). He's probably got the low down and his recommendations would be worth knowing-- especially down lower on the totem pole where those of us live who don't run Big Red, Deep Purple, or those other $12-a-quart synthos. I'm a big fan of BradPenn oils, but usually look for coupons and sales when I restock the larder. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:07 PM To: Spridgets List; MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com; MG List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Charles Navarro, owner of LN Engineering and author of the study on recent oil formulations, will be holding a tech session at our local Brit car club. The session will be at our clubhouse at 3531 Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI on Saturday April 12 from 10 AM to noon. If anybody from the area would like to come, RSVP by April 9th. It's free and coffee and doughnuts will be served. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html Larry Daniels From Miniac7 at aol.com Wed Apr 2 17:13:50 2008 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:13:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations Message-ID: In a message dated 4/2/2008 8:06:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: John, I will add your question to my list that I will ask him. If anybody else has any questions, let me know. Ask him for his recommendation on oil ( or oil plus additive) to use for initial the start-up, run-in and break-in of a recently built A-Series flat tappet engine with a new cam and lifters. Thanks, Howard Collins **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Apr 2 18:00:39 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:00:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: > Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? The standard hinges are wonders of engineering, but they try to do everything all at once, which makes them complicated. See Colin Dodd's ultra-simple solution at http://spriteparts.com.au/photogallery/noddy/DSC00004.JPG . Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From dmg at bossig.com Wed Apr 2 19:15:40 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:15:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets Message-ID: <47F3DB5C.9964.110AC90@dmg.bossig.com> Steve, Please resend the pictures --- my $#P+{! anti-spam program stripped the bottom 3/4 of the pic....... Don't know why...must be "Hate Dave" week ;-)) Anyway, I've modified their filter.... I have a SWA Sprite, so I'm considering their replacement hood, but cannot make my mind up between the hinged or pinned version... Is their fiberglass hand-laid up? or "shot" using cut pieces?? If the former , then hinged, if the latter , then pinned TIA -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Apr 2 19:53:57 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 19:53:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <892165881.20080330223405@pacifier.com> References: <892165881.20080330223405@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1788747239.20080402195357@pacifier.com> Hello, I recieved my TRIPTIK pack from AAA today. (way cool, but that's not the point) the route they show has us turning south on I-25 and going thru denver (i hate going thru denver!!) instead of heading to lincoln NE and turning south on I-29. Google mapping shows the denver route to to 100 miles or so LONGER and taking a couple of hours more.... any thoughts about the WHY we should thru FREAKING DENVER? i don't need a reason to avoid it! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "May I become a chorister?" Tom inquired. From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Apr 2 20:09:55 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:09:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OK, so none of the hints work !!!!!! Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:54 PM, K. Valentine wrote: > > > Checking snopes: > > http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp > > > > > On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Herb, >> >> I have seen this recommendation for years and it is certainly true if >> the tanks are above ground or at the surface. But I wonder if that >> is true for buried tanks. All of the tanks that I have seen at >> filling stations appear to be at least ten feet below the surface. >> Caves for instance are close to 50 degrees regardless of the weather >> outside or the time of year. So it is hard to see where a tank at >> ten plus feet is going to change temperature in the course of a day. >> Has someone done a temperature measurement in recent years or is this >> a carry over recommendation from the early 1900's? >> >> Curious minds and all that stuff. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Apr 2 20:15:26 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 20:15:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1755898180.20080402201526@pacifier.com> Hello Kitterer, one that DOES work is to fill up your tires to their maximum. the recommend from the auto manufactures is a compromise between ride and mileage. if you just want mileage, harden 'em up! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "I had an accident in the kitchen," said Tom with panache. From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Apr 2 20:59:57 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:59:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <1788747239.20080402195357@pacifier.com> References: <892165881.20080330223405@pacifier.com> <1788747239.20080402195357@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <47F4563D.8030003@frontiernet.net> Pull up Rand McNally and plot your trip from one stopping point to the next, and then print it out. All the mapping services send you via Interstates, regardless of what route you prefer. For example, going from Elko to Portland, they route us east on I-80 to SLC, then north on I-84 to Portland. Why would I want to drive 300 miles out of my way? Kate > > I recieved my TRIPTIK pack from AAA today. ( From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 2 22:20:00 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 00:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <47F4563D.8030003@frontiernet.net> References: <892165881.20080330223405@pacifier.com> <1788747239.20080402195357@pacifier.com> <47F4563D.8030003@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804022220y304cdf5bx63db998d31b314a0@mail.gmail.com> Kate is absolutely right, Bill. I quit using those damned things many years ago for exactly that reason. When I travel, be it car or motorcycle, I only use the "I" roads if I am in a huge hurry (which is usually never now that I am retired!!). Lots of times, I don't even take a Rand McNally with me! I pick up a state road map when I stop for gas and look for roads that go through some interesting towns, state forests, parks, mountains, along rivers...etc. Anything to have some great scenery. Sometimes I don't even take a map. I just ask somebody along the road for a good way to go.... It's the journey... not the destination.... Of course, if you have time constraints...... Still... No need to go through Denver. Go I-80 and I-29 to Kansas City. From there you'll find a number of somewhat more scenic routes to Osage Beach. Cheers!! Jim On 4/2/08, Kate wrote: > > Pull up Rand McNally and plot your trip from one stopping point to the > next, and then print it out. All the mapping services send you via > Interstates, regardless of what route you prefer. For example, going > from Elko to Portland, they route us east on I-80 to SLC, then north on > I-84 to Portland. Why would I want to drive 300 miles out of my way? > > > Kate > > > > > I recieved my TRIPTIK pack from AAA today. ( > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Apr 3 01:32:51 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 01:32:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <1755898180.20080402201526@pacifier.com> References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> <1755898180.20080402201526@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <816B149D-A214-47AD-8898-83F97C7A422B@mac.com> Bill, That does work. Don't know if you save enough on gas to pay for the new set of tires when the centers wear out however. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Kitterer, > > one that DOES work is to fill up your tires to their maximum. > the recommend from the auto manufactures is a compromise between > ride and mileage. if you just want mileage, harden 'em up! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite > * "I had an accident in the kitchen," said Tom with panache. From twobees at sprynet.com Thu Apr 3 04:35:40 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (twobees at sprynet.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:35:40 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Filling Gas Message-ID: <11808915.1207222540464.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> These recommendations have been floating around for a while. However, I recently saw a point-by-point analysis. And, the bottom line is that most of it isn't valid any longer. And, based on cost-of-time, unless you have nothing better to do, the recommendations are best ignored. My 2 cents. Norm Sippel '59 Turner From twobees at sprynet.com Thu Apr 3 04:35:40 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (twobees at sprynet.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:35:40 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Filling Gas Message-ID: <25614653.1207222540652.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> These recommendations have been floating around for a while. However, I recently saw a point-by-point analysis. And, the bottom line is that most of it isn't valid any longer. And, based on cost-of-time, unless you have nothing better to do, the recommendations are best ignored. My 2 cents. Norm Sippel '59 Turner From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 3 04:58:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 06:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan References: <892165881.20080330223405@pacifier.com><1788747239.20080402195357@pacifier.com><47F4563D.8030003@frontiernet.net> <43840a7e0804022220y304cdf5bx63db998d31b314a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <014401c89582$0ec44510$0201a8c0@midget> > Kate is absolutely right, Bill. I quit using those damned things many > years > ago for exactly that reason. For myself, I just use Google Maps. Sure, it tends to make you you the I word, too, but once it has tipped its hand, you can drag the route to any spot you like and it will re-calculate. Or, you can tell it the endpoints of the first leg and add waypoints from there. Yes, by the time you have a 3200-mile route in there with most of it tweaked, it DOES get a little slow, but it DOES know about virtually every road out there, it can show you vector maps or satellite views, it will let you save your route, and it doesn't argue with you too much. Computerized mapping has come a LONG way in the last 10 years! Computerized routing has come even further. David Lieb From abcoz at hky.com Thu Apr 3 06:14:58 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:14:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804022220y304cdf5bx63db998d31b314a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000201c8958c$b92922a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Rand-McNally/McSchmalley......All R-M and AAA will show you (in any detail) are Interstates and main roads. If you want good, and complete back road mapping information, get yourself a DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer for whichever states you'll be traveling through. Each page is a VERY detailed map of a section of the state (Pennsylvania, for example, is broken down into 70 pages/maps), giving you route numbers/road names of township, and county roads, as well as state roads. Great way for plotting a course that will allow you to not only avoid the Interstate Highway System, entirely, but for bypassing congested areas/cities & major towns. I never leave home without one, anymore. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:20 AM To: Kate Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan Kate is absolutely right, Bill. I quit using those damned things many years ago for exactly that reason. When I travel, be it car or motorcycle, I only use the "I" roads if I am in a huge hurry (which is usually never now that I am retired!!). Lots of times, I don't even take a Rand McNally with me! I pick up a state road map when I stop for gas and look for roads that go through some interesting towns, state forests, parks, mountains, along rivers...etc. Anything to have some great scenery. Sometimes I don't even take a map. I just ask somebody along the road for a good way to go.... It's the journey... not the destination.... Of course, if you have time constraints...... Still... No need to go through Denver. Go I-80 and I-29 to Kansas City. From there you'll find a number of somewhat more scenic routes to Osage Beach. Cheers!! Jim From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Apr 3 05:48:03 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:48:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com><47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Rod Hahneman (Spridgetech)is an acquaintance whose shop is not far from my house. He's basically an engineering and design guy from Chrysler and partners with a fiberglas and injection-molding buddy to make up the body panels he sells. He is pretty quality conscious and I would be surprised if his stuff wasn't up to par. -JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Peter C [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:32 PM To: dmg at bossig.com; sswarin at aol.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets Spridgetech usually has a booth there, so take a truck and pick one up! They're very good, BTW. Peter C = At 01:59 PM 4/2/2008, Dave G. wrote: >Steve, > >As much as I'd like to look at it in person, I just can't manage the >fare from >WA to PA to have a peek ;-)) >Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? > >TIA > >On 2 Apr 2008 at 14:06, sswarin at aol.com wrote: > >> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May > >> 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. > >-- >Dave G. KK7SS >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA >"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. >But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 3 06:38:22 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:38:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan References: <000201c8958c$b92922a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <012d01c8958f$fda43c00$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Jim Johnson'" ; "'Kate'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NW Caravan Rand-McNally/McSchmalley......All R-M and AAA will show you (in any detail) are Interstates and main roads. If you want good, and complete back road mapping information, get yourself a DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer for whichever states you'll be traveling through. Each page is a VERY detailed map of a section of the state (Pennsylvania, for example, is broken down into 70 pages/maps), giving you route numbers/road names of township, and county roads, as well as state roads. Great way for plotting a course that will allow you to not only avoid the Interstate Highway System, entirely, but for bypassing congested areas/cities & major towns. I never leave home without one, anymore. Bud Osbourne ======================= I've got to go along with Bud on the DeLorme Atlas. I have one at home, one in my office and one in my car. It's great. Another tool I really like is Microsoft Streets and Trips. It is a computer program that works like Google and others, but it also has a GPS and can give oral directions on the fly. Plus, it will take you all the way down to the city street level, whereas the atlas will only get you to the city. Obviously, you need to have your laptop (or Pocket PC) with you to take advantage of the GPS function. With the laptop set-up, you can also get an instant re-route if you run into a detour or traffic jam. That has saved me a lot of time and trouble several times. Larry Daniels From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 3 07:08:25 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <816B149D-A214-47AD-8898-83F97C7A422B@mac.com> References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> <1755898180.20080402201526@pacifier.com> <816B149D-A214-47AD-8898-83F97C7A422B@mac.com> Message-ID: <9910073745.20080403070825@pacifier.com> Hello Kitterer, the idea is to run HARD tires, NOT over inflated ones. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "I had no luck at all at the races," Tom endorsed. From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 3 07:38:08 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:38:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <012d01c8958f$fda43c00$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <000201c8958c$b92922a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <012d01c8958f$fda43c00$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <976706134.20080403073808@pacifier.com> Hello spridgets I've been using Google Earth and Google maps. i have DeLorme Street Atlas USA. It's not like i'm over 50 years old and never driven cross country before guys. I don't have a laptop, or a GPS and don't plan to get one. i was just wondering WHY ANYONE would go thru DENVER given that is a longer route (i found it to be longer using the drag route feature of Google Maps. i KNOW the interstates are boring and all the same. I KNOW the places really worth seeing are on the state routes, the by ways, and back ways. Using Google Maps to compute drive times gives me the following figures. Using Interstates, about 30 hours, at 70 mph to cover the 2000 miles. Avoiding Interstates, about 43 hours at 50 mph to cover 2126 miles. that 13 hour difference is TWO DAYS extra drving. I presume that most people who are headed to MO will start out on the Saturday before (if they're not retired and can ALL THE TIME THEY WANT) or later. That's when i plan to leave, but i have over 2000 miles in the MOST DIRECT ROUTE. there ARE time constraints. going home i'll have a couple of extra days oops .. rant over. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "Skool is grate," said Tom comprehensively. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Apr 3 11:47:34 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to press bearing into doublebearing hub Message-ID: <30646731.1207248454042.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I hope that all is most excellent with everyone. I have all of the bearings that I need now to install in the doblebearing hubs. A big thanks to all that helped. I have a few more quick questions that I am sure you all will have an answer to. Before you press the bearings in place, do you put any kind of lube around the bearing outer shell so that it slides into place easier? What is the orientation of the inner seal that has to be pressed in last? I really don't know how to explain it orientation-wise. I hope one of you will know what I am referring to. The seal has a smooth complete face and the other side has the seal itself somewhat visible. Thanks for any and all help. Mike Carpenter ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 12:27:02 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:27:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NW Caravan In-Reply-To: <976706134.20080403073808@pacifier.com> References: <000201c8958c$b92922a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <012d01c8958f$fda43c00$6401a8c0@Larry> <976706134.20080403073808@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Anyone caravaning through Oklahoma? I'm leaving on the 24th (after work) to head up to Texarkana. I'll spend the night there, as well as shave 3 hours off the trip. Once I leave Texarkana, I have no definite route, so would gladly join any caravans out of OK, AR, or LA. Brad On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello spridgets > > I've been using Google Earth and Google maps. i have > DeLorme Street Atlas USA. It's not like i'm over 50 years > old and never driven cross country before guys. I don't > have a laptop, or a GPS and don't plan to get one. > > i was just wondering WHY ANYONE would go thru DENVER > given that is a longer route (i found it to be longer > using the drag route feature of Google Maps. > > i KNOW the interstates are boring and all the same. I > KNOW the places really worth seeing are on the state > routes, the by ways, and back ways. > > Using Google Maps to compute drive times gives me the > following figures. Using Interstates, about 30 hours, at > 70 mph to cover the 2000 miles. Avoiding Interstates, > about 43 hours at 50 mph to cover 2126 miles. that 13 > hour difference is TWO DAYS extra drving. > > I presume that most people who are headed to MO will > start out on the Saturday before (if they're not retired > and can ALL THE TIME THEY WANT) or later. That's when i > plan to leave, but i have over 2000 miles in the MOST > DIRECT ROUTE. there ARE time constraints. > > going home i'll have a couple of extra days > > oops .. rant over. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite > * "Skool is grate," said Tom comprehensively. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Apr 3 13:58:16 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:58:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Skill Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804031358i30c952e7vf7688a6539488c87@mail.gmail.com> Seen this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzAhlr8NtQ&feature=related From dmeadow at juno.com Thu Apr 3 15:22:16 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:22:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] How to press bearing into doublebearing hub Message-ID: <20080403.162216.268.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Mike, I use something called Loctite 680 Retaining Compound when installing bearings. It is supposed secure the bearing, particularly when it is a looser fit. It won't keep a really loose bearing from spinning in the hub, but it might prevent one from pushing out (and pushing your seal out). It will also provide some lubrication on installation. The flat face of the seal should face "out" of the bearing housing. The "cupped face" will be towards the bearing. Be careful not to knock off the spring that goes around the inner seal piece! David Littlefield On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Mike/Donna Carpenter writes: > I hope that all is most excellent with everyone. > > I have all of the bearings that I need now to install in the > doblebearing hubs. A big thanks to all that helped. > > I have a few more quick questions that I am sure you all will have > an answer to. Before you press the bearings in place, do you put > any kind of lube around the bearing outer shell so that it slides > into place easier? > > What is the orientation of the inner seal that has to be pressed in > last? I really don't know how to explain it orientation-wise. I > hope one of you will know what I am referring to. The seal has a > smooth complete face and the other side has the seal itself somewhat > visible. > > Thanks for any and all help. > > Mike Carpenter From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 3 17:12:09 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:12:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving Skill In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804031358i30c952e7vf7688a6539488c87@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10804031358i30c952e7vf7688a6539488c87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1474704609.20080403171209@pacifier.com> Hello WFO, don't miss this one either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4qRVfioR2g -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "Must I show again why this is true?" asked Tom reprovingly. From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Apr 3 17:29:13 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:29:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <9910073745.20080403070825@pacifier.com> References: <692171.97120.qm@web50309.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> <1755898180.20080402201526@pacifier.com> <816B149D-A214-47AD-8898-83F97C7A422B@mac.com> <9910073745.20080403070825@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <0B5F0BEF-E93F-495A-A54F-E9EAA96E3726@mac.com> Bill, That is true and will work. For many if not most cars upping the tire pressure a few psi (<10) will give you better mileage with out adversely effecting tire wear and generally improve handling. If I was paying attention the statement was to inflate to the maximum mfg pressure. If this is the pressure on the tire then it will most likely be over inflated. For instance the tires on the Miata have a maximum rated pressure of 44 psi but 30 psi is where the car handles well in everyday driving and is several psi above what Mazda specifies. At 44 psi the centers would be gone in no time not to mention the loss of road grip under adverse weather conditions. For our Spridgets finding the right tire pressure is a bigger challenge unless you are running bias ply tires where you have the recommend pressures that came with the car. I am about to put new tires on the Sprite and have been working with my supplier to try and find a reference from the tire mfg that either correlates bias ply pressures to radial pressures or pressures by vehicle weight distribution, no luck thus far. Lets start a new thread for tire pressures - what tires and what pressures are you running ? If you want to send them to me I will put them together in a single sheet for the list. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 3, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Bill L wrote: > the idea is to run HARD tires, NOT over inflated ones. From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Thu Apr 3 18:35:42 2008 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] valve guide smoke? Message-ID: <24709.36895.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there a way to tell if a smoking engine has bad rings vs bad valve guides? When I pull the valve cover and run the engine I swear there is smoke coming from the two holes the push rods for number two come thru... Any advice? Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 3 18:44:11 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:44:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guide smoke? In-Reply-To: <24709.36895.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <24709.36895.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F587EB.4090201@comcast.net> Joe Lansing wrote: > Is there a way to tell if a smoking engine has bad > rings vs bad valve guides? > A simple test is to see if it smokes at idle or when you let off the gas, it's guides. If it smokes when you accelerate, it's rings. Smoke coming from the push rod holes is just crankcase pressure. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 3 18:51:15 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 20:51:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] valve guide smoke? References: <24709.36895.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47F587EB.4090201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <019b01c895f6$5fecb160$0201a8c0@midget> >> Joe Lansing wrote: >> Is there a way to tell if a smoking engine has bad >> rings vs bad valve guides? > A simple test is to see if it smokes at idle or when you let off the > gas, it's guides. > If it smokes when you accelerate, it's rings. > Smoke coming from the push rod holes is just crankcase pressure. Yup, as Frank says, if the valve guides are bad, it will smoke whenever manifold vacuum is high, because the vacuum in the cylinders is sucking oil right past the valves. If the rings are bad, it will tend to smoke when the pressure in the cylinder is the greatest and it pushes right past the rings. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 4 07:32:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 09:32:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Usage History for Spridget Panhard Bars Message-ID: <010b01c89660$ad5450b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> The MGCars.org BBS has a question on it that some of you might have an answer to... "I was asked a question yesterday evening that I could not fully answer and wonder if anyone here can shed some light on this. Today, we fit various engine and chassis tuning parts, but when (with photographic evidence) did anyone first use a Panhard Rod on a semi eliptic sprung Midget or Sprite in competition? I am particularly interested in cars prior to 1968 using this type of rear axle location." It sounds to me as if someone is looking for evidence to support a panhard rod as "period correct" for some vintage class. Not exactly the sort of shot that generally makes it into most magazines... unless the car was rolling over at the time ;-) I imagine that if they were in common use on period Bugeyes, someone would have kept on using them with the semi-elliptics, but you never know. Anybody got any "photographic evidence"? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From cbaustin at verizon.net Fri Apr 4 07:44:40 2008 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:44:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Castrol Products / Contact Message-ID: <00c301c89662$6a808c70$6401a8c0@universal1> Does anyone have an 'inside' contact at Castrol? Please contact me off-list, thanks. C B From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Apr 4 13:06:30 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:06:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits Message-ID: In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:27:38 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I would like to get a kit from Paul at Morriservice, but unfortunately he is down due to health reasons right now. Opinions? Has anyone dealt with either conversions? Thanks, Mike Rivers He's still taking orders for the kits Mike and has a son helping with shipping. It may be delayed, but after Frank's experience with Rivergate, I'd wait a bit for Paul's anyway. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Apr 4 13:32:42 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:32:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910804041332n19bdb3f8s169a830538855a9b@mail.gmail.com> I have nothing negative to say about Rivergate. BUT, I would wait for Paul's kit, too. Cheers, Derf From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 4 13:45:16 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 13:45:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More on Spridget bonnet/hood Message-ID: <47F630EC.31388.14AA236@dmg.bossig.com> What I would really like is a fibreglass hood/bonnet that can be bolted to the existing hinges of my '65 sprite.. An added bonus would be if I could use the standard latch mechanism... An acquaintance said the he seemed to remember that someone makets one of these in the USA but he can't remember where he saw it... Unlimited Products makes a hood which has "small steel inserts for mounting to hinges" but is pinned at the front.... Can anyone help with information, telephone number, or a web site?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 4 13:55:07 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits References: <5f00d9910804041332n19bdb3f8s169a830538855a9b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <013701c89696$306a41f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I have nothing negative to say about Rivergate. BUT, I would wait for > Paul's kit, too. I have the Rivergate kit in my Midget and my Bugeye. They are excellent. My understanding is that the alloy used in the Rivergate adapter plate is better than that in Paul's, but not that there is any need for it to be better. IMHO, Rivergate's is engineered for racing applications, Paul's is more oriented around Morris Minors. Rivergate helicoils all the holes in the aluminum plate, Paul does not. I like the concept of re-drilling the flywheel for the Datsun pressure plate like Paul does, but the Rivergate system works just fine as well. Both are gentlemen and provide good products and good support. I appreciate that Rivergate has a warning on their website about inferior adapter kits for Datsun transmissions, but has a paragraph in there stating that "We wish to point out that we have never seen this failure due to misalignment on the adapter kit built by Paul Aspeirsson at Morris Motors. Our impression is that he builds good stuff." OK, he can't spell Paul's last name right, but then neither can I. David Lieb 0 2 4 3 From cciaffone at verizon.net Fri Apr 4 13:59:30 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:59:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits In-Reply-To: <013701c89696$306a41f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <5f00d9910804041332n19bdb3f8s169a830538855a9b@mail.gmail.com> <013701c89696$306a41f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <47F696B2.7010900@verizon.net> I also have a Rivergate in my 72. Have had it for many years with no probs. So simple that my wife and I did the conversion. No real machining to be done other than to get the drive shaft balanced. chuck From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Apr 4 14:15:13 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:15:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust gasket material Message-ID: <000e01c89698$fbeda4f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Bugsy's been down for a week since I discovered that NAPA manifold gasket material (the grey stuff on a steel core) doesn't stand up to turbo temperatures. It developed a leak, and on disassembly the gasket was pretty much just a bunch of ash clinging to the stainless steel core. Not a single turbo shop on the web or anywhere else could find a gasket to fit the Rayjay turbo. After a bit of research I found a company that sells gasket material made of graphite bonded to stainless steel. Good up to 900F, and two sheets are on the way for Monday. I should have held on to the crappy old ones at the last rebuild, oh well. If anyone else needs a VERY high temp gasket, enter "graphite gasket material" in Google, or e-mail me and deal for my leftovers. Glen From grday at btinternet.com Fri Apr 4 14:23:04 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:23:04 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust gasket material References: <000e01c89698$fbeda4f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <008401c8969a$11f29660$c2e78656@tairswork> Glen, Idle curiosity - could you use 2mm or 3mm copper sheet? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:15 PM Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust gasket material > Bugsy's been down for a week since I discovered that NAPA manifold gasket > material (the grey stuff on a steel core) doesn't stand up to turbo > temperatures. It developed a leak, and on disassembly the gasket was > pretty > much just a bunch of ash clinging to the stainless steel core. Not a > single > turbo shop on the web or anywhere else could find a gasket to fit the > Rayjay > turbo. After a bit of research I found a company that sells gasket > material > made of graphite bonded to stainless steel. Good up to 900F, and two > sheets > are on the way for Monday. I should have held on to the crappy old ones > at > the last rebuild, oh well. > If anyone else needs a VERY high temp gasket, enter "graphite gasket > material" > in Google, or e-mail me and deal for my leftovers. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Fri Apr 4 15:47:27 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:47:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] UN-REAL!!!! Message-ID: <025d01c896a5$dbdeef90$6501a8c0@shop> Whether you are a NASCAR fan or not, TRY to catch Texas qualifying for the most UN-believable, BRUTAL crash I have EVER seen in ANY racing venue!!! EIGHT barrel rolls!!!!! Car # 00, Michael McDowell. And for further UN-REAL, the driver got out of the resultant piece of trash walked to the ambulance but WAVED to the crowd!!! Already released from Infield Care Center & interviewed on TV!! IN-REAL!!! Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 14:56:17 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 14:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899328.85271.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah. Rod's a great guy. I've used his fiberglass guy (Dave Craddock) for aerospace glass parts - that's how much I trust him. Tell him what your expectations are and he'll tell you whether his stuff will be appropriate. --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > Rod Hahneman (Spridgetech)is an acquaintance whose > shop is not far from > my house. He's basically an engineering and design > guy from Chrysler and > partners with a fiberglas and injection-molding > buddy to make up the > body panels he sells. He is pretty quality conscious > and I would be > surprised if his stuff wasn't up to par. > -JohnD ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 4 15:03:57 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tips on Pumping Gas In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804021102s5daf5808w88afea1b5bd4c560@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <815188.47506.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- WFO Herb wrote: > TIPS ON PUMPING GAS > > I don't know what you guys are paying for > gasoline.... but here in > California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 > per gallon. The best thing to do is drive our Spridgets. I just got back from a country where gas was around $7.20 per gallon. They try all kinds of wild and crazy fuel saving ideas, like driving small cars with efficient engines. My rental (with 3 other travelers) was pretty much the largest car I saw, and it was Audi A3. The cars were also seemingly always full of passengers, rather than 1 person per Chevy Yukon. The only time I saw vehicles with 1 person aboard, the vehicles were motorcycles. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From p.herder at cox.net Fri Apr 4 15:09:36 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:09:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] UN-REAL!!!! In-Reply-To: <025d01c896a5$dbdeef90$6501a8c0@shop> References: <025d01c896a5$dbdeef90$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <47F6A720.5020804@cox.net> http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2008/04/04/cup.tex.quals.mcdowell.nascar/index.html?MostPopular shop at justbrits.com wrote: > *Whether you are a NASCAR fan or not, TRY to catch Texas qualifying > for the most UN-believable, BRUTAL crash I have EVER seen in ANY > racing venue!!! EIGHT barrel rolls!!!!! Car # 00, Michael McDowell.* > ** > *And for further UN-REAL, the driver got out of the resultant piece of > trash walked to the ambulance but WAVED to the crowd!!! Already > released from Infield Care Center & interviewed on TV!!* > ** > *IN-REAL!!!* > ** > *Ed* From shop at justbrits.com Fri Apr 4 18:07:48 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 19:07:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits References: Message-ID: <00a301c896b9$790a6660$6501a8c0@shop> <> I was PRAYING someone WOULD bring that up, RB!!! IMHO, Frank's tale would NOT EVER be anything I would want said about me and my service!!!! For those of you that did not read about it, just check Archives for "Babe Rally"!! 'nough said as Frank's words an NOT be duplicated!! Ed From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 4 18:04:32 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 20:04:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pauls 5 speed kits References: <00a301c896b9$790a6660$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <01c301c896b9$02428850$0201a8c0@midget> > <> > I was PRAYING someone WOULD bring that up, RB!!! > IMHO, Frank's tale would NOT EVER be anything I would want said about me > and my service!!!! > For those of you that did not read about it, just check Archives for "Babe > Rally"!! > 'nough said as Frank's words an NOT be duplicated!! Nope, not enough said. I have probably spent over 5 grand on items from Rivergate, including an engine rebuild and a transmission and kit. Bill Perry is a class act. Yes, I know ALL about the Babe Rally episode. In fact, I guided them over there. Now, picture someone showing up at your house at 6pm on the Saturday of Memorial Day Weekend wanting you to work through the night so they can rejoin the rolling beer party they were with. Moreover, these were not customers of theirs, they were strangers in a Midget. The Perrys went out of their way to accomodate them and charged accordingly. The reason Rivergate is still in business where many others have failed is that they do not give away the farm. As a customer, I have always been treated well by Bill, Gayle, and Will Perry. They are not cheap, but they tend to do good work and to stand by what they have done. Are they perfect? No more so than any of the rest of us. David Lieb From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 05:04:12 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:04:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 Fuel Tank Repair Kit not exactally LBC but can be applied Message-ID: <205cef430804050504s36320662wc3ade02ec467655a@mail.gmail.com> List Not LBC but LBC applicable question. I finally got the title to my 66 VW Westphalia Camper. Camping in my Sprite is getting cramped. I figure some of you know about POR15 Fuel Tank Repair Kit http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=FTRK&dept=11 can anyone tell me if they have had any success with this stuff and if I must remove the tank to just reach the bottom? I have to remove the engine in the bus to get the tank out and I don't want to do that until I replace the engine with a factory new one (yes I can still buy a factory new VW Bus engine). BTW my spousal equivalent did very well with her mastectomy and so far the reconstructive surgery is going well even though the implant process will take a few months to complete us hope she remains cancer free. Thank you all for your kind thoughts and prayers. Best always, Linda 62 California Sprite (Pinky) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner Looking for VW Bus bumpers and a sink/icebox local to NJ/NYC area I use www.thesamba.com now for classified section used parts but they are often very expensive. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 05:41:04 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:41:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years Message-ID: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com> List, I bought a local Bugeye bonnet, and I don't want to sell Pinky yet (because she is so darn cute) to buy a Bugeye. Anyway my garage is too small for 2 Sprites. I got the bonnet from a nice LBC owner whom I introduced to the list I hope he joins, eBay # 130197209648. Can anyone out there tell me if every bonnet is the same exact design per year? Knowing the Bugeye has some small differences in each year model will there also be differences in the bonnet too. If so where do I look for those differences I used to find auto years via the number on the blinker lens on American cars can I do the same for the British cars I have amber blinkers on this bonnet. I will ether paint to match when I paint Pinky and swap for a while or just hang till I start a Bugeye project. Any tubs without bonnet & motors out there? Lin, 62 California Sprite (Pinky) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 05:56:47 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:56:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] UN-REAL!!!! In-Reply-To: <025d01c896a5$dbdeef90$6501a8c0@shop> References: <025d01c896a5$dbdeef90$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <205cef430804050556id3a2655vcfe0602f04a455cc@mail.gmail.com> I just saw that crash this morning on the news hard to believe not a scratch on the driver. The driver said the new cars are treated with foam to absorb the impact. Sounds like I should start foaming up my cars : ) Lin On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 6:47 PM, wrote: > Whether you are a NASCAR fan or not, TRY to catch Texas qualifying for the > most UN-believable, BRUTAL crash I have EVER seen in ANY racing venue!!! > EIGHT barrel rolls!!!!! Car # 00, Michael McDowell. > > And for further UN-REAL, the driver got out of the resultant piece of > trash walked to the ambulance but WAVED to the crowd!!! Already released > from Infield Care Center & interviewed on TV!! > > IN-REAL!!! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 06:03:53 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:03:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> <47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804050603h72666a03ne425d6282ac68942@mail.gmail.com> Wow Peter is that price correct only $550. for a bonnet? Amazing.on http://spridgetech.com/Spridgetech2002pricelist.pdf Is there any company who makes them in durable plastic? I have a stock R90S cafe fairing I'm installing on my R100R BMW cycle and there are companies who say they have made plastic replacements that are more durable than my glass one. see http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/photos/schemephotos/Daytona%20Orange%20Fairing.JPG Lin On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Peter C wrote: > Spridgetech usually has a booth there, so take a truck and pick one up! > > They're very good, BTW. > > Peter C > = > At 01:59 PM 4/2/2008, Dave G. wrote: > > >Steve, > > > >As much as I'd like to look at it in person, I just can't manage the > >fare from > >WA to PA to have a peek ;-)) > >Any chance of a few pictures.... especially of the hinge area??? > > > >TIA > > > >On 2 Apr 2008 at 14:06, sswarin at aol.com wrote: > > >> Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May > > >> 18-20,?and you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech > bonnet. > > > >-- > >Dave G. KK7SS > >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > >"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > >But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 06:04:28 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:04:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804050604l7c2d2003y61162a3f02fb12d@mail.gmail.com> Yea Steve we would love to see some pics. Lin On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:06 PM, wrote: > Come to the Spridget Jubilee in Carlisle, Pennsylrania on May 18-20,?and > you can see my 1974 "Spridget" with the Spridgetech bonnet. > > Steve Swarin > 1974 Midget, now a Bugeye > 1967 MGB-GT > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 06:16:59 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell Message-ID: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> Nice rebuild on the Mazda Miata on speedtv.com. The plastic front end looks a lot like Franks Speedwell. Can't find pics but will keep looking. Lin From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Apr 5 06:16:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:16:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets References: <8CA630371870F6C-9AC-10E8@FWM-M31.sysops.aol.com><47F37513.1315.110E525@dmg.bossig.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080402143114.03316e40@nosimport.com> <205cef430804050603h72666a03ne425d6282ac68942@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <022201c8971f$54906a30$0201a8c0@midget> > Wow Peter is that price correct only $550. for a bonnet? Amazing.on > http://spridgetech.com/Spridgetech2002pricelist.pdf No, it isn't. Read the fine print. Since they don't do web sales, they don't spend a lot of time keeping their prices current, preferring to show them as 2002 prices and suggest that you call for current pricing. No, they are not being shysters, they are good guys who cannot afford the overhead of ecommerce and web designers on staff. David Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Apr 5 06:30:40 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:30:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> Stacey David's show? I call that guy "Chuckles". He finishes nearly every sentence with a laugh. I went to 'join" his mailing list site, and there was some sort of stupid $charge$. He does have a very cool set. The Banshee is a Miata with a Devin like Ferrari GTO looking glass bonded to it. Haven't seen it after paint with the motor in it, but the stance and proportions look all wrong to me. Bad choice on wheels too. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:17 AM To: Spridget List Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell Nice rebuild on the Mazda Miata on speedtv.com. The plastic front end looks a lot like Franks Speedwell. Can't find pics but will keep looking. Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 06:33:44 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 09:33:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> Message-ID: <205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> I did not like the wheels at all they really ruined it for me also I did not like the rear addition. I did like the Ferrari front end with the lexan headlight covers. It is blue and silver stripped now. Lin On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Stacey David's show? > > I call that guy "Chuckles". He finishes nearly every sentence with a > laugh. > I went to 'join" his mailing list site, and there was some sort of stupid > $charge$. He does have a very cool set. > > The Banshee is a Miata with a Devin like Ferrari GTO looking glass bonded > to > it. Haven't seen it after paint with the motor in it, but the stance and > proportions look all wrong to me. Bad choice on wheels too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson = > thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:17 AM > To: Spridget List > Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like > Speedwell > > Nice rebuild on the Mazda Miata on speedtv.com. The plastic front end > looks > a lot like Franks Speedwell. > Can't find pics but will keep looking. > Lin From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 07:02:48 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:02:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> <205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> Here are some Miata body kit images: http://www.moesrealm.com/miata/bodykits.html The Black/Lime Green one looks sorts Spridgetish. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 07:10:10 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:10:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years In-Reply-To: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804050710w2f15a2ectcb8b5a621f639efd@mail.gmail.com> Do a Frank and pick up a nice 71-74 body and put that bonnet on it. The back end is different but the Bugeye bonnets look funny on RWA cars, IMHO. Or, if you can hold out for a Bugeye body, all the better. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 07:48:20 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 08:48:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804050710w2f15a2ectcb8b5a621f639efd@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050710w2f15a2ectcb8b5a621f639efd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804050748q6e3b6c3dq4eccd66e33daecb5@mail.gmail.com> Change that RWA to SWA. > Do a Frank and pick up a nice 71-74 body and put that bonnet on it. > The back end is different but the Bugeye bonnets look funny on RWA > cars, IMHO. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Apr 5 10:17:13 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:17:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley Message-ID: Is this for real? Why haven't we heard anything about it? I wish I'd been given time to plan for it. BZ > Don't forget, this Sunday April 6 is the Woodley Park car show, "The British > Are Coming! The British Are Coming!". As I bet you can tell by the title, > this is a British only car show. But it is not just another boring British > car show! This show marks the return of the biggest British only show in > the LA area! The organizers promise to fill the field at Woodley Park in > Van Nuys with hundreds of cars. And if you are looking for parts, there > will be an Autojumble as well. The show begins at 9 am. For additional > details, please visit the thread, > http://www.moalachat.com/showthread.php?t=2106 From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Sat Apr 5 10:40:42 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:40:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley References: Message-ID: <001401c89744$2c13bb00$6401a8c0@Music> Yup, sure is! If you go look for my club there, BBCC, the Bakersfield British Car Club. We are going as a group should be a good time. Jon > Is this for real? Why haven't we heard anything about it? > I wish I'd been given time to plan for it. > BZ > >> Don't forget, this Sunday April 6 is the Woodley Park car show, "The >> British >> Are Coming! The British Are Coming!". As I bet you can tell by the >> title, >> this is a British only car show. But it is not just another boring >> British >> car show! This show marks the return of the biggest British only show in >> the LA area! The organizers promise to fill the field at Woodley Park in >> Van Nuys with hundreds of cars. And if you are looking for parts, there >> will be an Autojumble as well. The show begins at 9 am. For additional >> details, please visit the thread, >> http://www.moalachat.com/showthread.php?t=2106 From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 10:43:04 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 10:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <44588.84374.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Is this for real? > I wish I'd been given time to plan for it. The motor won't be ready, but just keep the bonnet shut and you'll maybe take a 3rd place. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 5 12:21:40 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:21:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50th anniv badges Message-ID: <47F76ED4.12387.FA7C54@dmg.bossig.com> David, Just received my 59th Roundel and Arrow.. Very nice indeed... Should at least double the value of my beastie ! Many thanks for being the intermediary -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 5 12:42:13 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 50th anniv badges In-Reply-To: <47F76ED4.12387.FA7C54@dmg.bossig.com> References: <47F76ED4.12387.FA7C54@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <47F773A5.18465.10D4D39@dmg.bossig.com> OOPS!! Wy do they put the 9 so close to the 0??? Obviously it should read '50th' Duh! On 5 Apr 2008 at 12:21, Dave G. wrote: >> 59th -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Apr 5 13:59:56 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:59:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley In-Reply-To: <001401c89744$2c13bb00$6401a8c0@Music> Message-ID: If you knew about it, why didn't you tell us? > Yup, sure is! If you go look for my club there, BBCC, the Bakersfield > British Car Club. We are going as a group should be a good time. > Jon From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Sat Apr 5 14:06:47 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 14:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley References: Message-ID: <000e01c89760$f61205d0$6401a8c0@Music> You must have been out gallivanting all around the country partying and too busy to pay attention..lol See you there, Jon > If you knew about it, why didn't you tell us? > >> Yup, sure is! If you go look for my club there, BBCC, the Bakersfield >> British Car Club. We are going as a group should be a good time. >> Jon From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Apr 5 14:33:23 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 16:33:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com><000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com><205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006e01c89764$ace03e00$6401a8c0@personal> Isn't it intresting how they all look about the same. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell > Here are some Miata body kit images: > > http://www.moesrealm.com/miata/bodykits.html > > The Black/Lime Green one looks sorts Spridgetish. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.5/1359 - Release Date: 4/4/2008 > 8:23 AM From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 15:30:28 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 15:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now Message-ID: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dang Brad - The words out - What have you been doing? Now .....there selling items..........Item number: 230239245503 http://tinyurl.com/4hxnvl You got to have this one Buddy Vigil --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 16:00:24 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 17:00:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now In-Reply-To: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I appreciat the thought, but I'm not much of a gambler. BUT, I did come in from putting up some mood lighting in the mobile tequila bar. Martha and I are headed to Dallas to see some friends play a show tonight, and I wanted to perk up the old, boring tequila bar a bit. If I get the Sprite running tomorrow, I will begin driving it to work, to break in the engine. And to make a new tequila bar, to fit into the boot area on it. Anyone know where I can get some small leather belts?? I want to see if I can find some, and strap the bottles down on the rack, like buckling down the bonnet of a 100M. Brad On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 4:30 PM, wrote: > Dang Brad - The words out - What have you been doing? > > Now .....there selling items..........Item number: 230239245503 > > http://tinyurl.com/4hxnvl > > You got to have this one Buddy > > Vigil > > > --------------------------------- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Sat Apr 5 17:09:48 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:09:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now References: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00d401c8977a$8724f690$6501a8c0@shop> <> Brad would LOAD it with SLUGS and KEEP the real coinage, Vigil!!!! Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Apr 5 16:44:02 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <006e01c89764$ace03e00$6401a8c0@personal> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com><000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com><205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> <006e01c89764$ace03e00$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <47F80EC2.7000701@comcast.net> Jack Laird wrote: > Isn't it intresting how they all look about the same. > > Yeah, they all look like Hondas now. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Apr 5 16:51:49 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:51:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now In-Reply-To: References: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F81095.1010100@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > Anyone know where I can get some small leather belts?? 2 for $10 on the streets of New York and they are *IMPORTED*! >> >> >> > > > -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Apr 5 18:21:24 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 19:21:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now References: <81649.33347.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47F81095.1010100@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005301c89784$87ed9230$6501a8c0@shop> <<2 for $10 on the streets of New York and they are *IMPORTED*!>> Are they METRIC sized, Frank??? From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 5 17:22:37 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:22:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <006e01c89764$ace03e00$6401a8c0@personal> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> <205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> <006e01c89764$ace03e00$6401a8c0@personal> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804051722u286f7b66p152d942cc66079f@mail.gmail.com> Uhh, many look similar to me. There are some that look like Ferraris, some that resemble Porsches, one that tries to look like an Alfa (Why?) and many others. Some look tasteful and very nice to me. Some look like rejects from "The Fast and the Furious". But, no they don't all look the same. From gmuttart at eastlink.ca Sat Apr 5 17:40:18 2008 From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:40:18 -0300 Subject: [Spridgets] Concours question - Paint colour on bottom side of floor pans, boot, etc. Message-ID: <001801c8977e$c9b20620$6700a8c0@FAMILY> Is the paint black or body colour on the bottom side of the floor pans, boot, etc.? I can't find a clear direction in the Concours Guidelines and I've recently viewed an allegedly unrestored unmolested (except for brake repairs and replacement gas cap and distributor cap) original car (complete with original rubber mats) that has black paint on the underside of the car. Thanks Geoff Muttart Nova Scotia, Canada From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Apr 5 17:51:44 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Brad's Wild - Every one knows now In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > where I can get some small leather belts?? Got to Tandy leather or some other crafts place that has hides they cut to size. Buy some leather dye and some shoe polish. This is also the way to get a guitar strap that lasts forty years. BZ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 18:46:05 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 18:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Brad's Wild - Every one knows now In-Reply-To: <00d401c8977a$8724f690$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <667577.47189.qm@web38913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Brad, Whats a Tequila bar with out entertainment? Al though there are some people that are very entertaining after a few. So you may have that covered.....LOL Vigil shop at justbrits.com wrote: <> Brad would LOAD it with SLUGS and KEEP the real coinage, Vigil!!!! Anon [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Apr 5 20:57:48 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:57:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Concours question - Paint colour on bottom side of floor pans, boot, etc. In-Reply-To: <001801c8977e$c9b20620$6700a8c0@FAMILY> References: <001801c8977e$c9b20620$6700a8c0@FAMILY> Message-ID: <39D15C19-7922-4C44-961C-056AA266D8A6@mac.com> Jeff, For bugeyes the only body parts that are not body color is the radiator mount and frame ends forward of the radiator mount. These were painted black. I have heard that on some cars the frame ends were also body color but I do not have a reference however. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Geoff Muttart wrote: > Is the paint black or body colour on the bottom side of the floor > pans, > boot, etc.? I can't find a clear direction in the Concours > Guidelines and > I've recently viewed an allegedly unrestored unmolested (except for > brake > repairs and replacement gas cap and distributor cap) original car > (complete > with original rubber mats) that has black paint on the underside of > the car. From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Apr 5 21:00:08 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:00:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Concours question - Paint colour on bottom side of floor pans, boot, etc. In-Reply-To: <001801c8977e$c9b20620$6700a8c0@FAMILY> References: <001801c8977e$c9b20620$6700a8c0@FAMILY> Message-ID: Jeff, For bugeyes the only body parts that are not body color is the radiator mount and frame ends forward of the radiator mount. These were painted black. I have heard that on some cars the frame ends were also body color but I do not have a reference however. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Geoff Muttart wrote: > Is the paint black or body colour on the bottom side of the floor > pans, > boot, etc.? I can't find a clear direction in the Concours > Guidelines and > I've recently viewed an allegedly unrestored unmolested (except for > brake > repairs and replacement gas cap and distributor cap) original car > (complete > with original rubber mats) that has black paint on the underside of > the car. From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Apr 5 21:06:10 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:06:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Concours question - Paint colour on bottom side offloor pans, boot, etc. Message-ID: <380-220084064610390@earthlink.net> Well, here we go again. Just like gas caps, boot arrows, radiator stanchions, etc., it all depends on who you talk to, and especially if they were an ORIGINAL owner, or someone relating a handed down story. When back in the Mesozoic Era I drove my brand-spanking new Sprite out the door of Bluff City Buick and Imports in Memphis, the bottom of the floor pan was painted in what I would today call a "satin" black. It had NO undercoating underneath the car. The interior of the wheel wells had an oil-based, gooey undercoat, then over-painted the exterior color of the car, in my case, white. (The interior of the floor pans and the hump also had the gooey black undercoating topped by white paint.) The interior of the boot was the brown primer throughout. Having messed with it for so long, I cannot imagine why anyone would want to muck around with that gooey black undercoat! Even for concours! Buster Evans Anaheim, California > [Original Message] > From: Geoff Muttart > To: > Date: 4/5/2008 5:51:37 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Concours question - Paint colour on bottom side offloor pans, boot, etc. > > Is the paint black or body colour on the bottom side of the floor pans, > boot, etc.? I can't find a clear direction in the Concours Guidelines and > I've recently viewed an allegedly unrestored unmolested (except for brake > repairs and replacement gas cap and distributor cap) original car (complete > with original rubber mats) that has black paint on the underside of the car. > > > > > Thanks > > Geoff Muttart > > Nova Scotia, Canada > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as b-evans at earthlink.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Apr 5 21:33:35 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 21:33:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Congratulations, folks!!! You took 3rd!! Message-ID: <380-2200840643335468@earthlink.net> I have had an e-mail from Practical Classics, and the BusterCluster won third place in the "Readers Restoration" contest the magazine ran for 2007. As I have said so often, none of the credit for the BusterCluster goes to me. It all goes to the 23 great guys who came out to make it an incredible "mystical, magical" three days! There is, of course, a cash prize of #500, or $996.4744 at today's exchange rate. When the prize arrives, I will reserve 25% to pay for taxes and tithing to my church. The other 75% is being donated to the 50th Anniversary celebration at Lake of the Ozarks, for the prize was rightly earned by the entire Sprite-Midget community. Now, I have told Jim on the phone that all I have to do is figure out how to get the money into my bank account with the least exchange charges. I have said it before, and I will say it again, thank you everyone for all you have done. Buster and Pam Evans From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sat Apr 5 22:24:43 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 22:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Congratulations, folks!!! You took 3rd!! In-Reply-To: <380-2200840643335468@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <854605.76443.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Buster, I think it is great your putting some of the money back into the car. Being one of the 23 people at the Buster Cluster. I for one would rather see the donation go to the Help Paul A Fund. Some one who was one of the 23 members at the Buster Cluster. To me it just seems right now that he needs help. Vigil Robert Bruce Evans wrote: I have had an e-mail from Practical Classics, and the BusterCluster won third place in the "Readers Restoration" contest the magazine ran for 2007. As I have said so often, none of the credit for the BusterCluster goes to me. It all goes to the 23 great guys who came out to make it an incredible "mystical, magical" three days! There is, of course, a cash prize of #500, or $996.4744 at today's exchange rate. When the prize arrives, I will reserve 25% to pay for taxes and tithing to my church. The other 75% is being donated to the 50th Anniversary celebration at Lake of the Ozarks, for the prize was rightly earned by the entire Sprite-Midget community. Now, I have told Jim on the phone that all I have to do is figure out how to get the money into my bank account with the least exchange charges. I have said it before, and I will say it again, thank you everyone for all you have done. Buster and Pam Evans [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join (Yahoo! 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LOL On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 7:46 PM, wrote: > Brad, > > Whats a Tequila bar with out entertainment? Al though there are some > people that are very entertaining after a few. So you may have that > covered.....LOL > > Vigil > > shop at justbrits.com wrote: > <> > > Brad would LOAD it with SLUGS and KEEP the real coinage, Vigil!!!! > > Anon > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! 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Can I eat it?" - Ririt -- From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Apr 6 12:37:48 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:37:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brad's Wild In-Reply-To: <200804060851.AA1715535998@intrex.net> References: <200804060851.AA1715535998@intrex.net> Message-ID: Naw, For Brad?? Adult Novelty Store, surprised he didn't think of that Ed On Apr 6, 2008, at 8:51 AM, conan wrote: >>> Anyone know where I can get some small leather belts?? > > Pet store! :-) > > Ed in NC > > -- > "It followed me home, Mother. Can I eat it?" - Ririt > -- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 6 13:00:18 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Removing Aluminum Channel from Top of '68+ Spridget Door Message-ID: <241070.78804.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm trying to replace the vinyl on top of the DS door on Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Found the 2 5/16" nuts that loosen the channel but am hesitant to remove them all the way as children's hands or Mowogs are likely needed to get back in there. Channel is loose and can slide back and forth. IS it easier simply to slide vinyl under the edge and then retighten or does that piece easily come off and go back on? Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 6 13:18:54 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:18:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing Aluminum Channel from Top of '68+ Spridget Door In-Reply-To: <241070.78804.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <241070.78804.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47F9221E.3040008@comcast.net> James Gruber wrote: > I'm trying to replace the vinyl on top of the DS door on Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Found the 2 5/16" nuts that loosen the channel but am hesitant to remove them all the way as children's hands or Mowogs are likely needed to get back in there. Channel is loose and can slide back and forth. IS it easier simply to slide vinyl under the edge and then retighten or does that piece easily come off and go back on? > > Jim This is a tough call. There should be 5 nuts behind the door cap. All 5/16" wrench on "T" nuts that do slide inside the channel. I removed the whole thing from the door, recovered it, and spent a night getting the nuts back on, 1 is impossible, the others are not too bad thru the cutouts in the door. Get yourself one of those ratcheting box wrenches, they work great on the nuts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Sun Apr 6 15:02:07 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:02:07 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing Aluminum Channel from Top of '68+ Spridget Door In-Reply-To: <47F9221E.3040008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000201c89829$79fdb3d0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> James, If you have loosened those near-to-impossible-to-reach little nuts enough so that the rail will slide, then you have nearly done it! The rail should slide right along until it comes off the nut heads and you can take it off the door. Then, when you have refurbished the vinyl you can slide it back into position and re-tighten. Much better than removing the little nuts completely. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: 06 April 2008 20:19 To: James Gruber Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing Aluminum Channel from Top of '68+ Spridget Door James Gruber wrote: > I'm trying to replace the vinyl on top of the DS door on Bugsy my '68 Sprite. Found the 2 5/16" nuts that loosen the channel but am hesitant to remove them all the way as children's hands or Mowogs are likely needed to get back in there. Channel is loose and can slide back and forth. IS it easier simply to slide vinyl under the edge and then retighten or does that piece easily come off and go back on? > > Jim This is a tough call. There should be 5 nuts behind the door cap. All 5/16" wrench on "T" nuts that do slide inside the channel. I removed the whole thing from the door, recovered it, and spent a night getting the nuts back on, 1 is impossible, the others are not too bad thru the cutouts in the door. Get yourself one of those ratcheting box wrenches, they work great on the nuts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 05/04/2008 07:53 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.7/1361 - Release Date: 05/04/2008 07:53 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Apr 6 16:44:34 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:44:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Something wrong in Illinois Message-ID: I tried calling Ron Soave, on his cell, and at his home. I get a message that they cannot complete the call. Is there problems up that way?? Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 6 19:22:24 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:22:24 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] EFI bugeye HP numbers Message-ID: 110HP at the wheels.....rather excellent. Can you figure out what torque you're pully, Glen? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Apr 6 19:41:15 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:41:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley Park? Message-ID: Did anybody go to the L.A. show today? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Apr 6 21:06:50 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley Park? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <809812.14204.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Did anybody go to the L.A. show today? No. We were here not getting Brad's phone calls. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Apr 6 21:59:30 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley Park? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <432592.64523.qm@web38915.mail.mud.yahoo.com> yep = i went There was about half the cars as usual from what i was told. vigil Billy Zoom wrote: Did anybody go to the L.A. show today? You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 7 05:40:47 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 06:40:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Woodley Park? References: <809812.14204.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06d201c898a4$39abfb90$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Woodley Park? --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Did anybody go to the L.A. show today? No. We were here not getting Brad's phone calls. Ron ___________________________________________ That caller ID thing works pretty good, huh? From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 7 12:09:11 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Generator Rivets Message-ID: <1a4ca46c5a47eea2b50a.20080407110911.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Anyone know where to get the three rivets that hold the bearing cover to the front plate of the Bugeye generator? Or, what size they are? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Apr 7 12:46:10 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:46:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Pressures Message-ID: <79BDD8AE-D47E-4A74-B586-D9390511B941@mac.com> Hi Folks, As everyone knows our cars came with bias ply tires and many of us are running radials for which as best as I know there is no good reference for tire pressures. So I thought about compiling tire information from the list and then posting it for everyones information. Ed has also offered to put it on his site. So, if you would like to contribute please send me the following information directly, that is off list. Tire pressure survey: Tire Mfg & model: Tire pressure F/R: Vehicle AN number: Type of use: (street, autocross, racing) Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition From peter at nosimport.com Mon Apr 7 12:50:17 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:50:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire Pressures In-Reply-To: <79BDD8AE-D47E-4A74-B586-D9390511B941@mac.com> References: <79BDD8AE-D47E-4A74-B586-D9390511B941@mac.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080407134857.0311a960@nosimport.com> Either Buster or Biff had the NOS air in their NOS tires, ask them to weigh it, that'll give a baseline. Ed == At 01:46 PM 4/7/2008, Kitterer Bob wrote: >Hi Folks, > >As everyone knows our cars came with bias ply tires and many of us >are running radials for which as best as I know there is no good >reference for tire pressures. > >So I thought about compiling tire information from the list and then >posting it for everyones information. Ed has also offered to put it >on his site. > >So, if you would like to contribute please send me the following >information directly, that is off list. > >Tire pressure survey: > >Tire Mfg & model: > >Tire pressure F/R: > >Vehicle AN number: > >Type of use: (street, autocross, racing) > > >Thanks > > >Bob Kitterer > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) >2000 Miata Special Edition From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Mon Apr 7 14:16:15 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 16:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SF Bay Area Britmeet Moves to new venue for 2008 Message-ID: <33284294.1207599375505.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> THE BRITISH CAR MEET b" 2008 Sierra Point Marina b" Brisbane, CA Saturday & Sunday b" September 6th & 7th Join us for one of the most historic British automotive events in California at our new dockside venue at the Sierra Point Marina. This is essentially the popular Palo Alto meet in ia new location. Over 400 quirky, classic & thoroughly lovable British cars are once again expected to grace the lawn and adjacent parking area in Brisbane, California. We are also expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend & park for free. b" SUNDAY SHOW - SEPTEMBER 7th Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Marina. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. British food, jazz, & more fun than you'll be able to tolerate! Awards in many classes. There will be no preregistration - all entrants will receive a commemorative gift. Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The registration fee is still $25 per car at the gate. b" SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Sierra Point Marina boathouse (the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM. A map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the afternoon. b" DIRECTIONS: The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just take the Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site. Call for information: 310-392-6605 e-mail: Sierra Point Marina Britmeet From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Apr 7 15:17:49 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:17:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: <899328.85271.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <899328.85271.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A long time ago, a guy rolled a hardtop Midget at Gingerman. It was a car a lot like mine. Dave Craddock fixed the fiberglass hardtop. Heard it doesn't leak. BHT -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:56 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets Yeah. Rod's a great guy. I've used his fiberglass guy (Dave Craddock) for aerospace glass parts - that's how much I trust him. Tell him what your expectations are and he'll tell you whether his stuff will be appropriate. --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > Rod Hahneman (Spridgetech)is an acquaintance whose > shop is not far from > my house. He's basically an engineering and design > guy from Chrysler and > partners with a fiberglas and injection-molding > buddy to make up the > body panels he sells. He is pretty quality conscious > and I would be > surprised if his stuff wasn't up to par. > -JohnD ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 7 15:45:26 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 14:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass Bonnets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <664360.68445.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's a lot of detail for a rollover you "heard" about. I'm just sayin'.... --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > A long time ago, a guy rolled a hardtop Midget at > Gingerman. It was a > car a lot like mine. Dave Craddock fixed the > fiberglass hardtop. Heard > it doesn't leak. ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Apr 7 18:00:19 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 3.7 rear end Message-ID: <520708.8778.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How bad do you want a 3.7 rear end? This one beats the price of gas - Anywhere http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220220647695 Vigil SoCal --------------------------------- You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 04:43:54 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:43:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] additives in fuel effecting gas tank repairs Message-ID: <205cef430804080343o3a791271q2ee284b24e4def4a@mail.gmail.com> Regarding my previous post on using POR15 Fuel Tank Repair Kit http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=FTRK&dept=11 I don't know if you can get on this VW forums and read this very interesting article but this guy posts a frightening sight of layers of film that came out of his tank after using it. I like Frank's use of a pile of nuts and boiling the tank on the barbeque although I don't know how healthy that is so I may just go with sending the tank out. Then I read further about the whole subject of fuel additives and If you look down at the later posts they say the new ethanol gas additive is effecting fiberglass and treated gas tanks now. Any info on that? http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249378&highlight=gas+tank Lin 62 California Sprite (Pinky) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 04:57:49 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 05:57:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Many Thanks for the Rondels Message-ID: David, thank you for helping us get Colin's great 50th Anniversary Rondels and Arrows. I already have one of ours mounted, and it looks GREAT!! Thanks again, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 05:55:29 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:55:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Banshee kit Mazda Miata speedtv.com looks like Speedwell In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050616j1730d479r55c46a5437fa63c6@mail.gmail.com> <000601c89721$3f792cc0$be6b8640$@com> <205cef430804050633y7bb38f3bt282a6a1453691bdf@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050702y8a28d10w7cd5e3cc388a8e6c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804080455u4c72185dh3fbc50abd2b34b00@mail.gmail.com> Derf, Yea everybody wants to copy us : ) I love the graphics on the yellow one with the checkered look. Lin On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:02 AM, derf wrote: > Here are some Miata body kit images: > > http://www.moesrealm.com/miata/bodykits.html > > The Black/Lime Green one looks sorts Spridgetish. From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 06:25:29 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 08:25:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't color match Sprites? Message-ID: <205cef430804080525r4d3843f6uaf53f3b3df15181@mail.gmail.com> List, I found this post on the britishcarforum.com regarding the inability to color match our Sprites any thoughts? I was going to have someone perhaps Macco use their color gun to get a close mix what do you guys think? Linda 62 California Sprite (Pinky) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/441700/Searchpage/1/Main/44346/Words/pink+sprite/Search/true/Re_Paint_codes_and_colour#Post441700 If you are trying to match an original sprite paint with a pre set color code...forget it. I spoke with Donald Healey about this very subject once many years ago. He of course said you can't match using the original formulas. "The painter on the line would paint a car red and then if the next car came along was tagged for blue, just poured blue in with the bit of red stirred it and painted the car". So you see all you guys out there trying to match your original paint using an formula will likely not find any kind of match outside of pure luck and if you match an existing color on the car it will be faded and won't look anything like it looked when new. I can go to any British car event and hear the guys claiming to have their paint matched to an original factory paint chip or panel from a car and have a bit of a giggle. Cheers Jolly I am back From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 09:01:24 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:01:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.7 rear end In-Reply-To: <520708.8778.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <520708.8778.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804080801r10d310b0xec2dcae5d91f46a0@mail.gmail.com> Last year I sold and shipped one to a guy in Scotland. He got a deal on the thing, way less than $200 for the unit but shipping was more than the cost of the diff. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 8 14:09:36 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:09:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Autoweek L&S=MF Message-ID: <08e401c899b4$78b37910$6401a8c0@Larry> From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Apr 8 15:08:14 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 14:08:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Sprite Lives Message-ID: <2BECC58E-D8D2-4822-B60E-EE96EF835544@mac.com> After 14 months in storage, some new tires and a few other checks I went for a drive in the Sprite today. All in all it did very well but it is not up to and extended trip. First thing is to burn off all the old gas which will take a little while with my current do list. Need to change all the fluids and do a major tuning, it started missing and to overheat near the top of a big upgrade at about 75 mph. One of the float bowl needles is not closing so gas is coming out of the float bowl overflow. Oh, before going into storage at speeds above about 45 mph the car would seriously squirm when going over irregularities in the road. After checking everything I could think of I had concluded that the belts were separating inside the tires. Todays drive has confirmed that conclusion. So my comment is regardless of how good a tire looks if it is more than 6-7 years old you are at serious risk of it coming apart. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 15:38:06 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:38:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. Message-ID: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? check out ebay item 260228283163 Lester From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 15:40:50 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:40:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. In-Reply-To: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> Message-ID: David, did someone stiff you on their order? That isn't cool, not after what you went through to help us all out. Brad On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Lester wrote: > Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? > > > check out ebay item 260228283163 > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Apr 8 15:46:45 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:46:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines Message-ID: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a Spridget when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the available space? We have grunted the requisite number of grunts. We have use more than enough profanity for several engine swaps, some of it ordinary, some relatively creative. And still, it does not shrink. The manual says (too late, as manuals usually do) to offer the engine to the transmission with the motor mounts in place. Is that the magic? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Apr 8 15:57:18 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:57:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <59E3DE54-EC31-42BF-B087-D2D5799ED5CE@comcast.net> Human blood sacrifice. Usually from knuckles.. usually yours. You haven't grunted enough if it's not in. it's all that worked for me.. Lester On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a > Spridget when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the > available space? We have grunted the requisite number of grunts. > We have use more than enough profanity for several engine swaps, > some of it ordinary, some relatively creative. And still, it does > not shrink. The manual says (too late, as manuals usually do) to > offer the engine to the transmission with the motor mounts in > place. Is that the magic? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > ___________________ From daredelvis at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 15:57:58 2008 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:57:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <531383560804081457k112bd29ei48ac6c56e3f1c2e0@mail.gmail.com> Mounts and brackets attached to engine, then brackets attached to frame. Brian On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a Spridget > when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the available space? We > have grunted the requisite number of grunts. We have use more than enough > profanity for several engine swaps, some of it ordinary, some relatively > creative. And still, it does not shrink. The manual says (too late, as > manuals usually do) to offer the engine to the transmission with the motor > mounts in place. Is that the magic? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 8 16:02:30 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 17:02:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007201c899c4$3deb7520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > David, did someone stiff you on their order? > That isn't cool, not after what you went through to help us all out. Only had one order from Massachussets, and that one was 80 miles away from this guy... Hmm, do you suppose it is significant that this guy is from near Assawompset Pond? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Tue Apr 8 16:03:20 2008 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:03:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> <531383560804081457k112bd29ei48ac6c56e3f1c2e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002401c899c4$5bbde330$6401a8c0@Music> Try putting one bracket on the motor and the other side on the car. You will have plenty of room then. Jon Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Installing engines > Mounts and brackets attached to engine, then brackets attached to frame. > > Brian From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 8 16:04:54 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:04:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080408170028.03939ac8@nosimport.com> Well, 3 things I've done that were wrong are: Transmission mount on backwards. Engine and trans fit except for about 2 inches. It's a trapezoid, wide face front. Engine mount brackets are handed. The half-moon cutout is for the steering column and must face forward. Not enough beer. Peter C. ========================= At 04:46 PM 4/8/2008, Michael Rowe wrote: >All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a >Spridget when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the >available space? We have grunted the requisite number of >grunts. We have use more than enough profanity for several engine >swaps, some of it ordinary, some relatively creative. And still, it >does not shrink. The manual says (too late, as manuals usually do) >to offer the engine to the transmission with the motor mounts in >place. Is that the magic? > >Michael Rowe >Long Island, NY From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 8 16:05:05 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:05:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <000801c899c4$9a2dc630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Lower the engine into the bay, mate up the pilot shaft and the engine, lower it halfway towards the final position, THEN fit on the mounts. Easy that way. Glen > All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a Spridget > when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the available space? > We have grunted the requisite number of grunts. We have use more than > enough profanity for several engine swaps, some of it ordinary, some > relatively creative. And still, it does not shrink. The manual says (too > late, as manuals usually do) to offer the engine to the transmission with > the motor mounts in place. Is that the magic? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Tue Apr 8 16:08:02 2008 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:08:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080408180656.048533e8@littlebitcountry.com> and make sure you don't have the mounts left and right reversed. Don't ask how I know that !!! Dave At 05:46 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote: >All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a >Spridget when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the >available space? We have grunted the requisite number of >grunts. We have use more than enough profanity for several engine >swaps, some of it ordinary, some relatively creative. And still, it >does not shrink. The manual says (too late, as manuals usually do) >to offer the engine to the transmission with the motor mounts in >place. Is that the magic? > >Michael Rowe >Long Island, NY From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Apr 8 16:55:18 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 15:55:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> Message-ID: <48364045-B558-4262-9280-CB4AF41C91DD@mac.com> Leave the engine mounts loose on the engine so you have some wiggle room around the steering column. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 8, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > All right. What is the magic word for getting an engine into a > Spridget when the engine mounts, etc. are clearly wider than the > available space? We have grunted the requisite number of grunts. > We have use more than enough profanity for several engine swaps, > some of it ordinary, some relatively creative. And still, it does > not shrink. The manual says (too late, as manuals usually do) to > offer the engine to the transmission with the motor mounts in > place. Is that the magic? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 8 17:12:49 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:12:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> At first blush, this strikes me as sort of un-cool. Not like reselling a part begged from the list, but still......... Is it just me? Glen > Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? > > > check out ebay item 260228283163 From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Tue Apr 8 17:28:00 2008 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. In-Reply-To: <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080408192704.04822cd8@littlebitcountry.com> Very uncool and very expensive. Dave At 07:12 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote: >At first blush, this strikes me as sort of un-cool. Not like reselling a >part begged from the list, but still......... >Is it just me? > >Glen > > > > > Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? > > > > > > check out ebay item 260228283163 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as lbc at littlebitcountry.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Apr 8 17:39:08 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:39:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080408192704.04822cd8@littlebitcountry.com> References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080408192704.04822cd8@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: Not really expensive for the parts, though you do get a gouge in the ass on S&H. You'd think USPS would be significantly cheaper. On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Dave Yealy wrote: > Very uncool and very expensive. > > Dave > > At 07:12 PM 4/8/2008, you wrote: > >At first blush, this strikes me as sort of un-cool. Not like reselling a > >part begged from the list, but still......... > >Is it just me? > > > >Glen > > > > > > > > > Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? > > > > > > > > > check out ebay item 260228283163 > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > >You are subscribed as lbc at littlebitcountry.com > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Apr 8 17:46:10 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 16:46:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] So *that's* where I went wrong.. In-Reply-To: <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <8C2BBA7D-7E99-4032-BD99-5BED6F61ED02@comcast.net> <000a01c899ce$1564f630$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7AF8F5A5-AF1F-4DED-8302-4533E8BEA9E0@mac.com> Don't think so. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > At first blush, this strikes me as sort of un-cool. Not like > reselling a > part begged from the list, but still......... > Is it just me? > > Glen > > > >> Is this the goal for our 50th goodies from Colin?? >> >> >> check out ebay item 260228283163 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net Tue Apr 8 18:05:23 2008 From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 20:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox noise? Message-ID: <10699084.1207699524002.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi folks, This is in a 1500 Midget. There is a continuous noise, getting louder by the day, that is hard to describe. Sort of a cross between a whistle and a gargle. Sitting in the car, it semms it is coming from the the gearbox. Can't really hear it from under the hood. The noise is there with the car moving or stationary. It doesn't go away pushing the clutch pedal in and out (car stationary) so it doesn't seem to me that it could come from the gearbox. I checked the gearbox oil level anyway and its fine. Thanks for any thoughts. Cheers, Adrian (smelling of EP 90) From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 8 18:08:35 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:08:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox noise? In-Reply-To: <10699084.1207699524002.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <10699084.1207699524002.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47FBA693.25297.1FC6B46@dmg.bossig.com> Aaah,,,, EP90 (and hot Castrol R). The Real Man's answer to Chanel No.9 ;-)) On 8 Apr 2008 at 20:05, Adrian Jones wrote: >> Cheers, Adrian (smelling of EP 90) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Apr 8 18:38:44 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:38:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electricity to Horn Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2pk9ko@email.mtu.edu> I know that it can be a problem to get a horn to work correctly because of the need to have the steering column grounded properly. Today I did some investigating & here's what I think I found. My steering column is newly painted as is the steering rack. The rack has several wraps of tape so the rack clamps don't directly touch the rack. Right now there is no electrical connection between the rack and the clamps. Oh, I should mention that I haven't fastened the rack ends to the steering arms yet. Therefore when I try the horn, nothing happens. However, if I connect a jumper wire from anywhere on the frame to the pinch bolt that fixes the steering column to the steering rack, the horn will work. So what I need is a wire from the motor mount, rack clamp bolt or some other handy bolt TO the pinch bolt. BUT the pinch bolt goes roundy, roundy so that wiring arrangement would be tricky. If your horn is working this means that the current path goes: a) from the steering rack clamps to the steering rack. Then internally from the rack gear to the pinion gear and on to the steering column. You get this path because it just happens by "accident" (no new paint, no new tape, etc) b) Or your ground path is from the frame through the steering mechanism - like from the shock to the king pin to the steering arm to the ball joint on the end of the rack, to the rack gear, to the pinion gear and on into the steering column. Either path is through moving parts - rack and pinion or steering gear ( the shock to the king pin to the steering arm, etc) . That's 20 or so amps that I would guess are sparking and arching their way through all those moving parts. This has worked (?) for 50 years so I guess it's OK. It would be interesting search for evidence of arching on some of those moving parts. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From abcoz at hky.com Tue Apr 8 19:34:16 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 21:34:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] race car project needs home Message-ID: <007801c899e1$d36593c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Anyone in the St.Louis region interested in a tube frame Midget project? This car made the Run-Offs two years in a row, for Terry Terriberry(sp), I think in '98 & '99. Currently, it needs cosmetics, hydraulics, and a 1275 (it has a strong 1098 sitting in it, now, but it needs a dry sump system to work in the car). The car has an SCCA Log Book (which we have here in Pittsburgh). Right now, it is sitting on a trailer with rotten tires (which is why it didn't get brought back to Pittsburgh, in February), and it MUST be moved from my racing partner's widow's house by April 30, or go to the crusher. At the very least, I'm looking for someone to offer safe haven for the car, until a buyer can be found. The price will be more than fair, obviously. Bud Osbourne From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Apr 8 19:52:06 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 18:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Can't color match Sprites? In-Reply-To: <205cef430804080525r4d3843f6uaf53f3b3df15181@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <994031.97495.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Lin, I don't know about Maaco in particular, but the local paint shops have always done just fine matching colors using the hooded camera thingy to take a pic of the paint followed by a download to the paint computer. Ron --- Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > > I found this post on the britishcarforum.com > regarding the inability to > color match our Sprites any thoughts? I was going to > have someone perhaps > Macco use their color gun to get a close mix what do > you guys think? > > Linda > ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Apr 9 03:52:19 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 04:52:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [midgetsprite] anniversary badges In-Reply-To: <085001c899ea$25f4b410$0200a8c0@Workstation1> References: <085001c899ea$25f4b410$0200a8c0@Workstation1> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Colin Dodds Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:33 PM Subject: [midgetsprite] anniversary badges To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com G'day guys There is an ad on eBay for a pair of Anniversary badges. The seller claims: The club that designed and marketed these in Australia approached me to act as their distributor. and: These are a limited edition Both statements are untrue. I have just been in contact with the Australian Austin Healey Sprite Drivers' Club who produced the badges, and they confirm that no-one in the US has been appointed as an agent or distributor. The badges aren't limited edition, and will continue to be produced as long as there is a demand for them. Over 100 have been mailed to the US and orders are still coming in. It's interesting that the eBay price starts at $69.95 plus $12.75 postage, a total of $82.70. I can send you a pair of badges from Oz for just $74.00. avagoodday Colin www.SpriteParts.com.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join (Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Apr 9 07:54:40 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:54:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [midgetsprite] anniversary badges In-Reply-To: References: <085001c899ea$25f4b410$0200a8c0@Workstation1> Message-ID: <47FCCAA0.4040906@wi.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Colin Dodds > Date: Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:33 PM > Subject: [midgetsprite] anniversary badges > To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com > > > G'day guys > ............... > > .....Over 100 have been mailed to the US and orders are still coming in. It's > interesting that the eBay price starts at $69.95 plus $12.75 postage, a > total of $82.70. I can send you a pair of badges from Oz for just $74.00. > > avagoodday > Colin > www.SpriteParts.com.au > Yup, that's what I paid Colin. Look good on the car too! Dave 59 :{) Burlington WI From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Apr 9 13:34:47 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:34:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] POR Fuel tank stuff Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/2008 7:18:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: can anyone tell me if they have had any success with this stuff Linda, I've never used it, but I'd contact POR and ask how it reacts to ethanol and the MBwhatever stuff the Kalifornians are putting in fuel. Gas is gas is not true anymore and what once worked great may not work now. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Apr 9 14:10:06 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:10:06 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Tubs for Pinky Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/2008 7:18:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Any tubs without bonnet & motors out there? Lin, Make me an offer on a complete Bugeye in pieces...located in Comfort, TX? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Apr 9 18:04:59 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Installing engines In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080408180656.048533e8@littlebitcountry.com> References: <1A06976CE4B14C5294F1F028DA5BEC6B@Home> <7.0.1.0.2.20080408180656.048533e8@littlebitcountry.com> Message-ID: <20CB779C13654CB3804A7B1CC42B3E83@Home> > and make sure you don't have the mounts left and right reversed. Who could possibly be silly enough to do that? Especially since this places one bolt on each side in a completely impossible location. It does not help when you ask about the dumb position of that bolt and your expert friend says, "There is no accounting for the way they do things. After all, they drink warm beer." The steering column was out. I dropped the engine in alone in 10 minutes, no hang-ups anywhere. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Apr 9 18:25:12 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering column Message-ID: <07FFC86A56DE44ABBC89560AB2858843@Home> The top of the outer steering column (??with an angled tightening slot??) is splayed out and loose from jerking the wheel up and down, probably from running into things without a seatbelt. (The bottom of the car has clearly run into a lot of very large things.) If I could get it apart, I could pound the splayed part back. Is the mechanism for doing that under the sealed plastic surround? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From hal at katemuir.com Wed Apr 9 18:39:36 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 17:39:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '69 Midget FS Sacramento Craig's List Message-ID: http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/633325703.html Hal From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 06:47:49 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:47:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thermostat cover screws Message-ID: <47FE0C75.9090407@verizon.net> Just rerouting the coolant hoses for the summer when I noticed that the three allen bolt cap screws holding the thermostat cover on are starting to rust. What ought I replace them with?? chuck From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Apr 10 07:00:04 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Soft top Message-ID: <05174D53B2844FE9ADDAD1DEF65DF50E@Home> There appear to be several options for inexpensive soft tops ('74 Midget). Any recommendations for or against specific brands or vendors? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 10 08:22:45 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:22:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thermostat cover screws In-Reply-To: <47FE0C75.9090407@verizon.net> References: <47FE0C75.9090407@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1692681855.20080410072245@pacifier.com> Hello chuck, New ones! D'uh. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "Can you read music?" the bandleader asked notably. (*2) From pvanwig at charter.net Thu Apr 10 08:59:28 2008 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 7:59:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thermostat cover screws In-Reply-To: <47FE0C75.9090407@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20080410105928.MWVWO.121544.root@fepweb12> Allen bolts are not stock , studs and nuts are but one of the first mod's I do to a motor is to change to bolts. If they are rusting they a just standard hardware. If you want to stay Allen bolt they are harder to find than home depot. I just use stainless steel 1/4 20 I think Just pop one out and measure it -- Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net ---- chuck wrote: Just rerouting the coolant hoses for the summer when I noticed that the three allen bolt cap screws holding the thermostat cover on are starting to rust. What ought I replace them with?? chuck From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 10 09:08:56 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:08:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thermostat cover screws References: <20080410105928.MWVWO.121544.root@fepweb12> Message-ID: <001501c89b1c$cd285060$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Allen bolts are not stock , studs and nuts are but one of the first mod's > I do to a motor is to change to bolts. If they are rusting they a just > standard hardware. If you want to stay Allen bolt they are harder to find > than home depot. I just use stainless steel 1/4 20 I think Just pop one > out and measure it 5/16 x 18, I believe. From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Apr 10 09:44:13 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:44:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 11, Issue 11 Message-ID: In a message dated 4/7/2008 11:03:44 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Naw, For Brad?? Adult Novelty Store, surprised he didn't think of that Ed *** You just thought of that because you like Snap on Tools so much...or was that Strap on? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From dmg at bossig.com Thu Apr 10 10:13:46 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:13:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Termostat botls/studs... Message-ID: <47FDDA4A.11541.12F778@dmg.bossig.com> David said 5/16 x 18 Paul said 1/4 x 20 I have to replace mine.... which is correct, please?? And is snugging them down with a bit of RTV on the gasket good enough?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu Apr 10 11:38:51 2008 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:38:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Soft top Message-ID: Yes, I recently received and fitted one from Prestige. http://www.prestigeautotrim.com/usa/usa/tops/midget_hoods.htm I chose SV vinyl with a zip out rear window. They were out of stock but made one within a week and shipped it from Liverpool to me in WA state for less than I would have paid a local provider. I had mine within 2 weeks of ordering. The quality is great, the zip out rear window is a very nice option. That is to say it was done very well and professionally and looks / operates great. The fit was perfect, and little touches like including all needed fasteners and pre cutting the holes for the fasteners but not installing them so as to not mar the finish during shipment were greatly appreciated. Rick Bastedo ********************************************** Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:00:04 -0500 From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] Soft top There appear to be several options for inexpensive soft tops ('74 Midget). Any recommendations for or against specific brands or vendors? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY ********************************************** From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Apr 10 12:19:56 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:19:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] LIFE SAVING...Inflammatory Breast Cancer Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804101119y7602a1a0w1260ad47b47f7d7c@mail.gmail.com> Guys & Gals, I knew nothing of this type of breast cancer until a lady friend sent this video. Perhaps, like me, you've never heard of Inflammatory Breast Cancer...but it's deadly. I have two adult daughters, a mother and many female friends and acquaintances and I want nothing more than for each of them to live "cancer free". And I'm sure you feel the same. Pass this on to everyone you know...men and women so they will pass it on as well. Herb P.S. If you are offended by my sending this...TS!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9_UrVtc6c From RampantNM at aol.com Thu Apr 10 14:31:50 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:31:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tanks - Fiberglass -Ethanol Message-ID: In a message dated 4/8/2008 11:07:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: whole subject of fuel additives and If you look down at the later posts they say the new ethanol gas additive is effecting fiberglass and treated gas tanks now. Any info on that? Last time I was down at the gulf coast fishing, our guide said there were plenty of large boats for sale cheap because they were built with fiberglass fuel tanks at the factory and ethanol was causing them to leak into the bilge... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Apr 10 14:59:50 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tanks - Fiberglass -Ethanol References: Message-ID: <000c01c89b4d$d47f51c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I haven't had any trouble with the ethanol mixed gasoline yet, but I'll post a pic tonight of the inside surface of the rubber turbo connector hose I just replaced. I blame the total loss of the inside lower surface on the now banned MTBE. (Couldn't have ANYTHING to do with my brief flirtation with toluene spiking...? nawww.) > In a message dated 4/8/2008 11:07:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > whole subject of fuel additives and If you look down at the later posts > they > say the new ethanol gas additive is effecting fiberglass and treated gas > tanks now. Any info on that? From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 10 15:08:01 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:08:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Tanks - Fiberglass -Ethanol In-Reply-To: <000c01c89b4d$d47f51c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000c01c89b4d$d47f51c0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <4220801.20080410140801@pacifier.com> Hello Glen, (Couldn't have ANYTHING to do with my brief flirtation with toluene spiking...? nawww.) i think i wanna party with you man! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "That certainly took the wind out of my sails!" said Tom disgustedly. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 10 16:56:37 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:56:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Termostat botls/studs... In-Reply-To: <47FDDA4A.11541.12F778@dmg.bossig.com> References: <47FDDA4A.11541.12F778@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <47FE9B25.2040901@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > David said 5/16 x 18 > Paul said 1/4 x 20 > > I have to replace mine.... which is correct, please?? > 5/16 x 18 is correct. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 10 17:12:57 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:12:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question Message-ID: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> I am whipping up a set of SUs for my 59 Sprite (beefed up 1275) which is currently running a Weber 45 DCOE. But with a 2 day drive to Missouri, and gas over $3 a gallon now, and traveling with 2 other family members in their SU powered LBCs, I don't want to have to stop for gas every 1.5 hours so the SUs are going on for the trip. I am using a swing needle set, the needles in this set are ABC, I also have a set of AANs . What would YOU use if your 1275 was used to a DCOE? ABC or AAN -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 10 17:54:44 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:54:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> References: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1047138842.20080410165444@pacifier.com> Hello Frank, i don't know anything about this stuff.. i assume you know about http://www.teglerizer.com/sucarbs/ as a place to start? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite * "I won't play for this team any longer, " Tom decided. From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 19:33:05 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:33:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest SPRITE Newsletters Message-ID: <024001c89b73$fdc687d0$2f01a8c0@dell1> ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Moses To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:12 PM Subject: F-L SPRITE Newsletters 41008 .... One-Off Smiling Sprite Pin .... Adopt an Elf .... SJ08 on a shoe string budget .... SPRITE Pins & Boot Badges SPRITE Newsletters Update Issue 51-1, 2, 3, 4 4-10-08 See SPRITE Newsletters attachments: .... One-Off Smiling Sprite Pin .... Adopt an Elf .... SJ08 on a shoe string budget .... SPRITE Pins & Boot Badges ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Download the Latest Copies of SPRITE Newsletters by clicking on the blue dates & descriptions to view the back issues of the Email versions of SPRITE Newsletters & Updates. http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/news.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Dear Sprite Enthusiasts, Thank you for receiving Sprite Newsletters and Updates in an email version. Kindly let SPRITE know if you change your email address. You should be receiving SPRITE Updates and Newsletters on a regular basis (at least weekly or monthly). If not contact us at Dr.Moses at Verizon.net or 717-534-2525 and in the USA nationwide toll free phone 877-748-3165 M - Th. If you have received this email in error or would like to discontinue receiving SPRITE emails kindly let Rick Moses at Dr.Moses at Verizon.net know and your email address will be removed from our Newsletter & Updates group lists. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Copy of Issue 51-4.pdf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Copy of Issue 51-1.pdf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Copy of Issue 51-2.pdf] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of Copy of Issue 51-3.pdf] From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Apr 10 19:53:00 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:53:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Sprite Newsletters, Editions 51-1,2,3, & 4 Message-ID: <028401c89b76$c605e360$2f01a8c0@dell1> Be part of Sprite Jubilee on the cheap http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/newsletters/51E1_040908_shoestring.pdf Adopt an Elf for Sprite Jubilee http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/newsletters/Issue%2051-2.pdf One off smiling Sprite pin http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/newsletters/Issue%2051-3.pdf Sprite Jubilee Pins & Boot Badges http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/newsletters/Issue%2051-4_SPRITE_Pins_&_Boot _Badges.pdf To automatically receive the Sprite Newsletters go to http://www.austinhealeysprite.org/news.html and sign up From davriker at nwi.net Thu Apr 10 22:02:53 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:02:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Soft top References: Message-ID: <00ab01c89b88$eabbc190$6600a8c0@dave> About 5 years ago, I bought a very expensive cloth top with zip out rear window from LBC car co. When I received it, I was impressed with everything but the plastic windows. They felt thin and cheap. My fears were accurate, as in the first 6 months, they began to yellow. The top is kept down, and the car is always garaged except when driving, which has been no more than 15,000 miles in 5 years. This spring when I went to raise the top, the side plastic window cracked. The plastic on the Robbins tops, and the Crown tops is much thicker and I have had them last 8-10 years with no problem. David Riker ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Soft top > Yes, I recently received and fitted one from Prestige. > http://www.prestigeautotrim.com/usa/usa/tops/midget_hoods.htm > > I chose SV vinyl with a zip out rear window. > > They were out of stock but made one within a week and shipped it from > Liverpool to me in WA state for less than I would have paid a local > provider. I had mine within 2 weeks of ordering. > > The quality is great, the zip out rear window is a very nice option. That > is > to say it was done very well and professionally and looks / operates > great. > The fit was perfect, and little touches like including all needed > fasteners > and pre cutting the holes for the fasteners but not installing them so as > to > not mar the finish during shipment were greatly appreciated. > > Rick Bastedo From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Apr 10 22:52:28 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> References: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <182c0a410d0a421e0a40570a.20080410215228.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> A single HIF44. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (with single HIF44) 56 BN2 Frank Clarici > What would YOU use if your 1275 was used to a DCOE? > ABC or AAN > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 11 08:34:34 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:34:34 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: Only $3.00+? cheap gas. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Frank Clarici To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:12:57 -0400 I am whipping up a set of SUs for my 59 Sprite (beefed up 1275) which is currently running a Weber 45 DCOE. But with a 2 day drive to Missouri, and gas over $3 a gallon now, and traveling with 2 other family members in their SU powered LBCs, I don't want to have to stop for gas every 1.5 hours so the SUs are going on for the trip. I am using a swing needle set, the needles in this set are ABC, I also have a set of AANs . What would YOU use if your 1275 was used to a DCOE? ABC or AAN -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 11 08:43:46 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: References: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20d68a585f6a59d24a57682a.20080411074346.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> The news here in Kalifornia reported the most expensive gas in the country was in San Francisco at $3.79 and the least expensive was in New Jersey at $3.03. The difference is in the taxes each state charges per gallon. As Frank goes west his cost will increase and as I go east from Kalifornia, my cost should decrease, hypothetically of coarse. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Duquette > Only $3.00+? > > cheap gas. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Frank Clarici > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:12:57 -0400 > > I am whipping up a set of SUs for my 59 Sprite (beefed up 1275) > which is currently running a Weber 45 DCOE. But with a 2 day drive to > Missouri, and gas over $3 a gallon now, and traveling with 2 other > family members in their SU powered LBCs, I don't want to have to stop > for gas every 1.5 hours so the SUs are going on for the trip. > I am using a swing needle set, the needles in this set are ABC, I also > have a set of AANs . > What would YOU use if your 1275 was used to a DCOE? > ABC or AAN > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Apr 11 08:49:22 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:49:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Ozarks References: Message-ID: <000401c89be3$3ae31060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I'm already paying close to $4 for a gallon of premium. By June I'm sure I'll begin the trip with $4.10 gas. All the better reason to be sure the tune is dialled in perfectly. I'm also considering carrying a 1-gal plastic gas jug in the passenger footwell as a range extender. Last fall I had planned on carrying a couple of gallons of toluene in the boot for a little pick-me-up going over the Rockies, but the EFI seems to have removed the need for any extra oomph. Glen > Missouri, and gas over $3 a gallon now, and traveling with 2 other From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 11 08:54:24 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:54:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shipping - was "so thats' where..... Message-ID: <47FF1930.15928.222E00@dmg.bossig.com> My neighours' sister just moved into his house from Alaska. Last week her boxes arrived! She used the USPS!! Each *very* large box took two mailmen to carry it to the door step... When she saw the surprised look on my face she mentioned it was the cheapest carrier she found to get them here!!! OT - It's a pity she smokes a lot, otherwise...... ;-(( On 11 Apr 2008 at 6:56, Barry Barnes wrote: >> I got a quote today from UPS to ship two used Spridget seats only two >> states over: $182.00!!! I shopped around quite a while and am able >> to ship them by bus for about $70 - still a lot of money. >> -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 11 08:57:58 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:57:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Ozarks In-Reply-To: <000401c89be3$3ae31060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: , <000401c89be3$3ae31060$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <47FF1A06.23270.2571D0@dmg.bossig.com> The cheapest gas here as of last night (!), in the Tri-City area of SE Washington is $3.48. The cheapest Premuim gas is $3.78 The name brands are more!! On 11 Apr 2008 at 7:49, Glen Byrns wrote: >> I'm already paying close to $4 for a gallon of premium. By June I'm >> sure I'll begin the trip with $4.10 gas. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 11 09:14:39 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:14:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: <20d68a585f6a59d24a57682a.20080411074346.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <47FE9EF9.2050206@comcast.net> <20d68a585f6a59d24a57682a.20080411074346.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <1178925803.20080411081439@pacifier.com> Hello Rrengineer, the prices at the pump in some very small measure reflect the difference in the state taxes levied, but not as much as the tax itself. I used to live in N.Y. about THREE miles from the border with Conneticut. The NY tax on a gallon of gas was, if i recall about 14 cents. the price at the pump, two stations, three miles apart.. 1 or 2 cents. .. .. this is EASY to check out for those who live in the New England Area. The states are so TINY. Harder to do for those of us THIS side of the Mississippi River. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite Anyone who hates children and dogs can't be all bad. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 11 09:18:21 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:18:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question In-Reply-To: <1178925803.20080411081439@pacifier.com> Message-ID: I live on the Ontario / Quebec border. There is an additional 10 cents tax on the Quebec side, though I think with x miles of the border they are exempt from charging it so that they don't lose sales to Ontario. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Bill L Hello Rrengineer, the prices at the pump in some very small measure reflect the difference in the state taxes levied, but not as much as the tax itself. I used to live in N.Y. about THREE miles from the border with Conneticut. The NY tax on a gallon of gas was, if i recall about 14 cents. the price at the pump, two stations, three miles apart.. 1 or 2 cents. .. .. this is EASY to check out for those who live in the New England Area. The states are so TINY. Harder to do for those of us THIS side of the Mississippi River. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite Anyone who hates children and dogs can't be all bad. From JMFarley50 at aol.com Fri Apr 11 09:30:27 2008 From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:30:27 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: I just rebuilt the SUs for my 1275. When installing on the engine, do folks leave the gaskets behind the heat shield and on either side of the spacers dry, or should I use a sealant on them? If a sealant is used, what are your recommendations for type? I have a tube of Permatex "2" non-hardening Form A Gasket Sealant that says it resists gasoline and a tube of high temp. RTV silicone that states it is not for gasoline contact. Sounds like the Permatex "2" is a possibility. Others? Thanks for your feedback, John F. **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 11 09:33:49 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 08:33:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1452803335.20080411083349@pacifier.com> Hello JMFarley50, i don't know anything, but i used gaskets dry. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 I used to be an agnostic, but now I'm not sure.... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 11 09:51:35 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:51:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: Message-ID: <006101c89beb$ec15f160$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I just rebuilt the SUs for my 1275. When installing on the engine, do >folks > leave the gaskets behind the heat shield and on either side of the > spacers > dry, or should I use a sealant on them? I soak mine overnight in engine oil. That way they seal well when installed. Easy to remove the next time I change my mind, too. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 11 09:55:43 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:55:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <006101c89beb$ec15f160$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I might be mistaken, but I think that he was changing his SUs, not his mind ... ;) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "David Lieb" >I just rebuilt the SUs for my 1275. When installing on the engine, do >folks > leave the gaskets behind the heat shield and on either side of the > spacers > dry, or should I use a sealant on them? I soak mine overnight in engine oil. That way they seal well when installed. Easy to remove the next time I change my mind, too. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 11 10:09:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:09:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: Message-ID: <006701c89bee$621c6950$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I might be mistaken, but I think that he was changing his SUs, not his mind > ... ;) Surely he knows by now that you always use epoxy sealer when changing your mind From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 11 10:12:31 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I installed mine dry, and the car idles great. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM, wrote: > I just rebuilt the SUs for my 1275. When installing on the engine, do > folks > leave the gaskets behind the heat shield and on either side of the > spacers > dry, or should I use a sealant on them? > > If a sealant is used, what are your recommendations for type? I have a > tube > of Permatex "2" non-hardening Form A Gasket Sealant that says it resists > gasoline and a tube of high temp. RTV silicone that states it is not for > gasoline contact. Sounds like the Permatex "2" is a possibility. > Others? > > Thanks for your feedback, > John F. > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > ( > http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016 > ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Apr 11 11:31:26 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:31:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question Message-ID: <28350279.1207935086566.JavaMail.root@wmvirt99> ---- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > The news here in Kalifornia reported the most expensive gas in the country > was in San Francisco at $3.79 The Cincinnati Enquirer reported today that gas is over $4 in Maui, making it the most expensive in the US. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Apr 11 13:03:47 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:03:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question References: Message-ID: <003601c89c06$c5adfcf0$6401a8c0@personal> Frank, I would put a 2 gal range extender in the footwell. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU needle question > Only $3.00+? > > cheap gas. > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Frank Clarici > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] SU needle question > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:12:57 -0400 > > I am whipping up a set of SUs for my 59 Sprite (beefed up 1275) > which is currently running a Weber 45 DCOE. But with a 2 day drive to > Missouri, and gas over $3 a gallon now, and traveling with 2 other > family members in their SU powered LBCs, I don't want to have to stop > for gas every 1.5 hours so the SUs are going on for the trip. > I am using a swing needle set, the needles in this set are ABC, I also > have a set of AANs . > What would YOU use if your 1275 was used to a DCOE? > ABC or AAN > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.11/1371 - Release Date: > 4/10/2008 12:23 PM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Apr 11 13:03:57 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:03:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] WTB...Sunbeam Alpine Message-ID: I have some friends who are looking for an Alpine...preferably a '62. They're retired and want one like the one they had when they were first married. Any leads appreciated. BZ From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 11 13:12:12 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:12:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Range extender (aka SU Needle...) Message-ID: <47FF559C.7384.10E341E@dmg.bossig.com> Forgot to copy the list ;-(( A 2 gallon marine gas tank is spill proof and unlikely to explode. I used to have one for my beast... the Ex got it! NAPA makes a metal spill-proof 2gallon round tank. I now use one of those. PLEASE stay away from the red plastic types.. they really make a mess when they burst/split from heat causing the gas vapours to expand!! BTDT!! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Apr 11 16:09:59 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:09:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Range extender (aka SU Needle...) References: <47FF559C.7384.10E341E@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <023301c89c20$c8a06320$6501a8c0@shop> <> AMEN, Dave!!!! From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 11 15:52:04 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:52:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Range extender (aka SU Needle...) In-Reply-To: <538764.11796.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <47FF559C.7384.10E341E@dmg.bossig.com>, <538764.11796.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47FF7B14.25116.1A090DE@dmg.bossig.com> To the best of my knowledge... The Feds get into the act for Marine gas tanks in that they are supposed to be explosion proof. There is even a requirement that they meet the 2.5 minute fire test specified in 33 CFR 183.580. Polyethyene fuel tanks used in Marine service also must meet this standard. They usually have have a fuel shut off or anti-siphon valve and are mechanically vented.. The one I had also had a gas gauge with the pump fittings already plumbed in... The USCG BSC79 (April 1997) report on marine fuel tank inspections and failures has much more detail if anyone is interested Regular steel tanks - a la Walmart, Home Depot, etc. - are just spill proof and usually do *not* have a safety ventilation system If nothing else, use the (Wehrmacht designed) army 5 gallon Jerry Can. For about 2 years, I was the Safety Officer for my CAP suqdron. Regular Safety briefings were expected from me.... ;-(( On 11 Apr 2008 at 14:22, Ed Lindley wrote: >> Educate us, the difference twixt a "marine"? and "non-marine" (other >> than non=red plastic construction) is? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 16:38:11 2008 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <909996.75223.qm@web63504.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I don't know much about sealants either but I used Permatex Black Silicone Adhesive Sealant Item #81158 16B from my local auto parts store. A thin film on the gaskets seems to seal and work okay with fuel fumes, separates easily when disassembling, and wipes off from gaskets when rubbing between finger and thumb to enable reuse of gaskets. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 19:13:01 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <165453.94323.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- JMFarley50 at aol.com wrote: > I just rebuilt the SUs for my 1275. When installing > on the engine, do folks > leave the gaskets behind the heat shield and on > either side of the spacers > dry, or should I use a sealant on them? Dry. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 11 19:25:03 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:25:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <165453.94323.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <165453.94323.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1676172930.20080411182503@pacifier.com> Hello , ok.. i keep telling everyone i don't know anything about these cars... i'm about to prove it... lets say i'm looking straight down from above a carb. i put my little 9/16" wrench on the mixture nut of my HS-2 carb. which way richens, to the left, or to the right? i'm trying to go a memnonic .. is it Richer to the Right, Leaner to Left.. "R"s match and "L"s match, or is it Richer to the L:eft, Leaner to the Right? initials bass-akwards ? or again looking straight down.. Richer Clockwise or Anti-Clockwise? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Apr 11 19:27:57 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:27:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <909996.75223.qm@web63504.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gasgacinch. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 19:32:27 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:32:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <1676172930.20080411182503@pacifier.com> References: <165453.94323.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1676172930.20080411182503@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net> First of all, you need a 5/8" wrench. Loosen the nut makes it richer. Tighten the nut to make it leaner. Lefty loosey or richer righty tighty or leaner -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 19:41:34 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:41:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber to SUs Message-ID: <4800134E.8050203@comcast.net> Well I tried the ABC needles in the swing needle 1.25 SUs, I didn't like them. Now I am running stock AUD-136 fixed needle 1.25 SUs and they are almost as nice as the DCOE. Please note *almost* The car runs well, I almost have it tweaked in perfectly, just a little stumble on a hard left turn which has me puzzled. Must be float level. There was a significant difference between the swing needle and the fixed needle carbs. Does anybody know why? I rebuilt both sets, the jets were set at 12 flats down to fire up, I had to turn the swing needle jets down almost 30 flats just do it would run decent. Fixed needle carbs are 12 flats give or take a couple now that I have tweaked them in. My next problem is that I used a no hole intake and was going to use the tubes from the swing needle carbs for PCV. So I replaced those carbs with the early set with no tubes, now I have to change the intake because oil is squirting out of every nook and cranny, puddling up under the car and blowing out the oil filler cap. No PCV means lots of oil leaks. But I had to clean under the bonnet anyway ;) So I am wondering, just swap out the fixed needle pistons into the swing needle carb bodys so I have the tubes for PCV and still have the fixed needles? Or replace the intake with one with a hole in the middle for the PCV valve? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From hal at katemuir.com Fri Apr 11 19:45:46 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Weber to SUs In-Reply-To: <4800134E.8050203@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, I think I would go with the intake manifold. Need one? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:42 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Weber to SUs Well I tried the ABC needles in the swing needle 1.25 SUs, I didn't like them. Now I am running stock AUD-136 fixed needle 1.25 SUs and they are almost as nice as the DCOE. Please note *almost* The car runs well, I almost have it tweaked in perfectly, just a little stumble on a hard left turn which has me puzzled. Must be float level. There was a significant difference between the swing needle and the fixed needle carbs. Does anybody know why? I rebuilt both sets, the jets were set at 12 flats down to fire up, I had to turn the swing needle jets down almost 30 flats just do it would run decent. Fixed needle carbs are 12 flats give or take a couple now that I have tweaked them in. My next problem is that I used a no hole intake and was going to use the tubes from the swing needle carbs for PCV. So I replaced those carbs with the early set with no tubes, now I have to change the intake because oil is squirting out of every nook and cranny, puddling up under the car and blowing out the oil filler cap. No PCV means lots of oil leaks. But I had to clean under the bonnet anyway ;) So I am wondering, just swap out the fixed needle pistons into the swing needle carb bodys so I have the tubes for PCV and still have the fixed needles? Or replace the intake with one with a hole in the middle for the PCV valve? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as hal at katemuir.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 20:46:04 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:46:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: <165453.94323.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1676172930.20080411182503@pacifier.com> <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00a801c89c47$5a0fb8d0$6501a8c0@shop> << righty tighty or leaner>> "tighty" being the KEY word from the FOUNDER of "We Tight Club", right Frank???? From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 19:54:07 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The way Bill asked, though, looking down from above the carbs, you'd go left to lean, right to richen. What fixed your truck, BTW? My POS is doing a similar thing. --- Frank Clarici wrote: > First of all, you need a 5/8" wrench. > Loosen the nut makes it richer. > Tighten the nut to make it leaner. > Lefty loosey or richer > righty tighty or leaner Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 20:15:25 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:15:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48001B3D.9060704@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > What fixed your truck, BTW? Blown fuse, the fuse that powers all the sensors!!! 15 amp, # 22 or 23. But I keep telling myself it was time to replace the O2 sensors and the cam sensor. Funny, our Sprites run fine with OUT sensors ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 11 20:18:25 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:18:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net> <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <719548190.20080411191825@pacifier.com> Hello, OK,,, now i have TWO different answers... Frank says right leaner, ron says right richer... .. again.. looking down from above the carb... R ight RIch or Right LEAN.... Clockwise or Anti-clockwise .. LOOKING DOWN FROM ABOVE? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want! From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 20:28:36 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:28:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <719548190.20080411191825@pacifier.com> References: <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net> <57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <719548190.20080411191825@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <48001E54.1010803@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > Hello, > > > OK,,, now i have TWO different answers... Frank says right leaner, > ron says right richer... > > .. again.. looking down from above the carb... > > R ight RIch > > or > > Right LEAN.... > > Clockwise or Anti-clockwise .. > > LOOKING DOWN FROM ABOVE? > > Loosen the nut = richer Tighten the nut = leener Yes looking at it upside down would be reversed but no matter how you look at it, if you loosen the nut, it will make it richer -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 20:34:54 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <48001E54.1010803@comcast.net> Message-ID: <197707.49363.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > OK,,, now i have TWO different answers... Frank > says right leaner, > > ron says right richer... Nope, same answer, just looking at different sides of the jet nut. Right richer, looking down on the carbs. But as Frank says, loosen the jet nut to richen. Tighten to lean. "Loosening" lowers the jet from the needle. Etc... Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 21:36:54 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:36:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: <4800112B.9050409@comcast.net><57516.42629.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <719548190.20080411191825@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <003101c89c4e$74d509c0$6501a8c0@shop> <> Just lay on passenger side fender and reach across motor, Bill!! THEN it will make "sense"!!!! Anon From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 11 20:45:34 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:45:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <197707.49363.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <48001E54.1010803@comcast.net>, <197707.49363.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47FFBFDE.9652.2AD47B3@dmg.bossig.com> Looking down on the carbs from above... Clockwise = same as adding hours = adding fuel Counter-clockwise = same as subtracting hours = reducing fuel Does that help?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Apr 11 20:50:09 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:50:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <47FFBFDE.9652.2AD47B3@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Just close your eyes, and then loosen or tighten the nut as required. BZ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 11 20:51:59 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:51:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: Message-ID: <037c01c89c48$2e0ecf40$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Just close your eyes, and then loosen or tighten the nut as required. BZ _______________________________________________ Sounds like a line I used when I was still single. LAD From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 11 21:03:58 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:03:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <47FFBFDE.9652.2AD47B3@dmg.bossig.com> References: <48001E54.1010803@comcast.net>, <197707.49363.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47FFBFDE.9652.2AD47B3@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <718440120.20080411200358@pacifier.com> Hello Dave, NO .. it doesn't help.. its a simple question and no one seems to want to answer it DIRECTLY.... i get loosen or tighten the nut.. tightne the nut, the NUT DOESNT MOVE!!!! the JET MOVES.. screw that.. i don't want to know the theory i just want to know the fricking direction to move the wrench .. to the left or to the right.. clockwise or counterclockwise looking down from above.. to richen or lean... laying across the fender from the opposite side doesn't change a thing either... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Honest, teacher! A virus REALLY did eat my homework! From tinydog at snet.net Fri Apr 11 21:30:13 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:30:13 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <718440120.20080411200358@pacifier.com> References: <48001E54.1010803@comcast.net>, <197707.49363.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <47FFBFDE.9652.2AD47B3@dmg.bossig.com> <718440120.20080411200358@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <041220080330.22679.48002CC50000A2A40000589722230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBFC7C90A9F979B@att.net> tinydog says: Lefty-Loosey/Righty-Tighty. And that applies whether you are looking down from above, or up from above. -------------- Original message from Bill L : -------------- > Hello Dave, > > NO .. it doesn't help.. > > its a simple question and no one seems to want to answer it > DIRECTLY.... i get loosen or tighten the nut.. tightne the nut, > the NUT DOESNT MOVE!!!! the JET MOVES.. screw that.. i > don't want to know the theory i just want to know the fricking > direction to move the wrench .. to the left or to the right.. > > clockwise or counterclockwise looking down from above.. to > richen or lean... > > laying across the fender from the opposite side doesn't change a > thing either... From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 21:35:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <718440120.20080411200358@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <133125.41796.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bill L wrote: > its a simple question and no one seems to want > to answer it > DIRECTLY.... i get loosen or tighten the nut.. > tightne the nut, 3rd time, same as 1st two - not sure what you think is not direct about this - looking from ABOVE, put the wrench on the nut. Turn it to the right (clockwise). That will richen the carb. Left (counterclockwise) will lean it. Ask again and we will offer up some other uses for the wrench... Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 11 21:37:51 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <041220080330.22679.48002CC50000A2A40000589722230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBFC7C90A9F979B@att.net> Message-ID: <505185.29546.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- tinydog at snet.net wrote: > Lefty-Loosey/Righty-Tighty. > And that applies whether you are looking down from > above, or up from above. Now THAT'S funny. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tnhotairpilot at comcast.net Fri Apr 11 21:49:31 2008 From: tnhotairpilot at comcast.net (Hank Beck) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:49:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Move to Monday for Mike Rowe Message-ID: <20080412044852.0952D187656@autox.team.net> I guess you work on your Spridget on Saturday & Sunday? Hank From hal at katemuir.com Fri Apr 11 22:53:31 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:53:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Move to Monday for Mike Rowe In-Reply-To: <20080412044852.0952D187656@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Did I miss something here? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hank Beck Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:50 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Move to Monday for Mike Rowe I guess you work on your Spridget on Saturday & Sunday? Hank From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Apr 11 23:52:05 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:52:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Move to Monday for Mike Rowe References: Message-ID: <001901c89c61$56dfd6d0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> It's a Dirty Job! ----- Original Message ----- Did I miss something here? Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hank Beck Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:50 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Move to Monday for Mike Rowe I guess you work on your Spridget on Saturday & Sunday? Hank From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 03:42:29 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions Message-ID: To help seat the rings, I am taking a 60 mile; one way trip, to Denton this afternoon. I'll have a bite to eat, let it cool all the way down, and drive it back home. What is the best suggested break in rpm? Or is there a variety of speeds that makes it better. I will be taking the interstate, that has a speed limit of 70, if that matters any. If I need to break her in at lower speeds, I need to know that as well. Also, my speedometer is bouncy. What usually causes that? Loose ends at the transmission or speedometer head, lack of grease on the cable, or bad speedometer itself? When I put it on at the transmission, I didn't tighten it all the way snug. To do that, I'd need to get the pliers after it, and I wasn't sure that was the way to go. Thanks, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kentmclean at comcast.net Sat Apr 12 06:15:22 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:15:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] WTB...Sunbeam Alpine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4800A7DA.3010809@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > I have some friends who are looking for an Alpine...preferably a '62. > They're retired and want one like the one they had when they were first > married. Any leads appreciated. Google and Craigslist are your friends. Enter the following in the Google search box. site:craigslist.org "sunbeam alpine" -pts Finds this: http://salem.craigslist.org/car/606301113.html FYI: "site" lets you search all of a site, in this case, all of the craigslists lists. "sunbeam alpine" in quotes says to search for that exact phrase. "-pts" says to ignore parts; pts is craigslist parts category, the hyphen says to omit it from the results. Cheers, -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 12 08:45:52 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480068B0.490.153CE3@dmg.bossig.com> Brad, IIRC... Back in the the UK ( a long, long, time ago!) the instructions that came with a new engine usually recommended varying the speeds, slowly building up to maximum at about 500 - 1000 miles, or so. But if it is for a race engine, which is nearly always running at high revs, I've usually had it flat out after about 100 - 200 miles of the above...... On 12 Apr 2008 at 4:42, Brad Fornal wrote: >> What is the best suggested break in rpm? Or is >> there a variety of speeds that makes it better. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Apr 12 09:55:35 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:55:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad, You will get several answers to your first question but I am old school which recommends to try and stay between 2 - 3K rpm and change speed fairly often. When you return and the engine has cooled re-torque the head bolts and then reset the valve clearances. Speedo bounce: check the speedo cable for lubrication and that it is not coming apart. If that is alright then it is most likely the speedo it self, at least that has been my experience. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 12, 2008, at 2:42 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > To help seat the rings, I am taking a 60 mile; one way trip, to > Denton this > afternoon. I'll have a bite to eat, let it cool all the way down, > and drive > it back home. > What is the best suggested break in rpm? Or is there a variety of > speeds > that makes it better. > I will be taking the interstate, that has a speed limit of 70, if that > matters any. If I need to break her in at lower speeds, I need to > know that > as well. > Also, my speedometer is bouncy. What usually causes that? Loose > ends at the > transmission or speedometer head, lack of grease on the cable, or bad > speedometer itself? > When I put it on at the transmission, I didn't tighten it all the > way snug. > To do that, I'd need to get the pliers after it, and I wasn't sure > that was > the way to go. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Apr 12 10:47:35 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:47:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: References: <1401450874.20080412073523@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <191273349.20080412094735@pacifier.com> Hello Brad, i had a bouncy speedo... replaced the cable.. i had a bouncy speedo replaced speedo with another i had a bouncy speedo replaced speedo with YET ANOTEHR i had a bouncy speedo replaced the tranny with a 5 speed i HAVE A STABLE SPEEDO. in my experience its the drive on the tranny that slips. YMMV -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com * "I'd like to be a Chinese laborer," said Tom coolly. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 10:48:43 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:48:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: "lefty loosey, righty tighty" (from the "side") Looking "down"......clockwise = richer c.clockwise = leaner Looking "sideways."...to the right = leaner to the left = richer ...and I still turn 'em the wrong way once in a while. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Apr 12 10:59:36 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:59:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1325584440.20080412095936@pacifier.com> Hello Robert, THANX! that's the cleanest explaination yet... i can USE this.... someone said.. to the right, clockwise is richer, BUT clockwise is to the LEFT ... clockwise RICH.. anticlockwise LEAN.. now i need a memnonic! maybe .... as time moves forward we get richer and fatter? time advances .. clockwise we were lean when we were younger? looking back anticlockwise? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "I have had too many children," said Mary overbearingly. From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Apr 12 11:44:05 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:44:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axel Question Message-ID: <00a601c89cc4$cdf381f0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I replaced my rear axels with new hard versions last night and I found that the old axels had bigger holes (7/16) for the wheel studs. The studs had some rust on them that made the new axels a tight fit until I cleaned them up. I wonder now if the old axels were drilled out for larger wheel studs? I have found other things on my car that lead me to think it was raced at one time or another before it was returned to the road. The new good axels are installed and fit right with 3/8 studs. I guess I need confirmation that original axels should have 3/8 stud holes. Thanks, Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com 58 "Bugeye" From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Apr 12 12:19:20 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:19:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brad, You can do as you see fit. And you will get as many opinions as there are folks on the list. It has always been my opinion to break them in slowly for 50 - 100 miles, varied speed etc. Then just drive the thing like you will next year and the year after that and so on. They will seat pretty good in the first miles, then just go. Larry On Apr 12, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > To help seat the rings, I am taking a 60 mile; one way trip, to > Denton this > afternoon. I'll have a bite to eat, let it cool all the way down, > and drive > it back home. > What is the best suggested break in rpm? Or is there a variety of > speeds > that makes it better. > I will be taking the interstate, that has a speed limit of 70, if that > matters any. If I need to break her in at lower speeds, I need to > know that > as well. > Also, my speedometer is bouncy. What usually causes that? Loose ends > at the > transmission or speedometer head, lack of grease on the cable, or bad > speedometer itself? > When I put it on at the transmission, I didn't tighten it all the > way snug. > To do that, I'd need to get the pliers after it, and I wasn't sure > that was > the way to go. > > Thanks, > Brad > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Apr 12 12:24:14 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:24:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axel Question In-Reply-To: <00a601c89cc4$cdf381f0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <00a601c89cc4$cdf381f0$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804121124w756e3a28g996b1fd48b6ef420@mail.gmail.com> Yes, 3/8 fine thread studs. > I guess I need confirmation > that original axels should have 3/8 stud holes. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 12:52:19 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:52:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: LOL.... I saw all the responsi you got and decided you needed an answer to your original question, supplemented by a "sideways" answer as well, considering mixture is normally set as part of carb tuning process which is normally carried out without the air cleaners installed, thus allowing more easy access to the mixture nuts from the side. For mixture strength check you are looking for a VERY momentary rpm gain before it drops off to same or slightly below set idle. as the air valve is lifted no more than 1/8". A hand-held analog read-out tach set to the 1,000 rpm scale comes in very handy for this check as you can "see" this momentary rise which you might have a tendency to miss from an otherwise noisey engine. You might also review Tom Swift's SU Carb basics on YouTube, placing "University Motors" in the searchbox. Very educational and enlightening. Regards! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Bill L Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:59 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Hello Robert, THANX! that's the cleanest explaination yet... i can USE this.... someone said.. to the right, clockwise is richer, BUT clockwise is to the LEFT ... clockwise RICH.. anticlockwise LEAN.. now i need a memnonic! maybe .... as time moves forward we get richer and fatter? time advances .. clockwise we were lean when we were younger? looking back anticlockwise? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "I have had too many children," said Mary overbearingly. You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 12:57:12 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:57:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] WTB...Sunbeam Alpine Message-ID: Alpine's have such a distinctive, sexy exhaust note. Neat cars. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 13:26:05 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:26:05 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Weber to SUs Message-ID: No PCV means a return to a "vented" configuration which requires at least two 1/2 " ports to effectively relieve crankcase gasses/pressure and most especially when driven like you stole it. Normally an upper port from the valve cover and a lower port via the "can" on the timing cover. For those timing covers with no can, the old mech. fuel pump port will suffice. Actually, all three is a better bet.... with the fuel pump port being a mighty 1 incher. I'd go with the early, simple tried and true "flying saucer" PCV set-up.....cheap, effective.....make you happy long time. Incidentally, if your 45 DCOE isn't returning decent mileage/fuel economy at 70 mph cruise on flat highway, even with ribcase ratios and 3.9, it probably needs re-calibration. Mine was great on economy (AND performance) utilized as above on my PO'd VP3 cammed super-tuned (90 dynoed HP @ the wheels) '74 Spridget I used for commuting back and forth from Stamford to NY Metro airports prior to retirement from the increasingly "unfriendly" skies. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 13:33:40 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:33:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ Message-ID: Well....wait'll we see what Labor Day brings, Memorial Day notwithstanding. Heard we had a huge find in North Dakota area,,,,as in billions of bbls? (Osama is meanwhile laughing his cajones off...got us spending billions for offense and defense re Islamic Global Terrorism as oil goes beyond US$110bbl.) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 12 13:42:22 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:42:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4800AE2E.9360.124B123@dmg.bossig.com> Cheapest around here... Last night at 11:30 PM - Regular $3.48 This morning at 9:30 am - Regular $3.51 Same gas - same station !! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Apr 12 13:47:26 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:47:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <4800AE2E.9360.124B123@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4800AE2E.9360.124B123@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <480111CE.90003@frontiernet.net> The cheapest here in Elko is $3.28, with $.03 off per gallon if you have a Maverick card. Kate From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Apr 12 13:58:53 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <192660384.20080412125853@pacifier.com> Hello Robert, the reason i want to know isn't for tuning purposes... but THANX for that info too.. heading to missouri we will be leaving from what is essentially SEA LEVEL and headed across the rocky mountains... most of the interstates across WYOMING are at nearly 7000 ft.. its a downhill run to DENVER from I-85! knowing this i want to be able to lean out the carbs if need be, and have to have a memnonic so i can do it 'on the fly'. .. just a flat or two, .. i'm thinking, and set it back after we come down.... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "This is a delicious Golden Delicious," said Tom applaudingly. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Apr 12 14:02:49 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:02:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <4800AE2E.9360.124B123@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <20080412200251.UACC28059.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> You're lucky-it seems we only go up in 10 cent increments here in Milwaukee. $3.49 this morning LBC content- So I finally rebuilt my master cylinder. It appears OK, but there will probably be another month before I unpack the Sprite from its winter tarps (snowing here today) Any harm in not bench bleeding it and waiting until then? Chris Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:42 PM To: spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ Cheapest around here... Last night at 11:30 PM - Regular $3.48 This morning at 9:30 am - Regular $3.51 Same gas - same station !! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmeadow at juno.com Sat Apr 12 14:03:14 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:03:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axel Question Message-ID: <20080412.150314.680.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Mark, 7/16" studs is a common upgrade for a race car. I've got 7/16" studs all around on my racer. Sounds like someone replaced the hubs with 3/8" studs after they were done racing, which I can confirm is the stock setup. I'm wondering what you've done in replacing the axles, though. If the prior ones were drilled for 7/16" studs and were used for racing, what are the "new hard" axles you are replacing them with? If someone raced with the prior set, it seems they should already have been the later, harder axles. You can tell by looking at the splined end. If there is a groove cut, then they are the later axles. David On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:44:05 -0500 "Mark" writes: > I replaced my rear axels with new hard versions last night and I > found that > the old axels had bigger holes (7/16) for the wheel studs. The > studs had > some rust on them that made the new axels a tight fit until I > cleaned them > up. I wonder now if the old axels were drilled out for larger wheel > studs? > I have found other things on my car that lead me to think it was > raced at > one time or another before it was returned to the road. The new > good axels > are installed and fit right with 3/8 studs. I guess I need > confirmation > that original axels should have 3/8 stud holes. > > Thanks, > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > 58 "Bugeye" From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 12 14:30:01 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:30:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <192660384.20080412125853@pacifier.com> References: , <192660384.20080412125853@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4800B959.28182.15051E6@dmg.bossig.com> Bill, I've done that trip (in reverse) from Huntsviol AL ( 300ft) to SLC, UT (6,000ft) Same roads only I did it in winter... You may not need to do anything!! I did not need to touch the SU's - even when passing Medicine Bow NP and Rawlings (over 10,000ft).. the SU's are a constant depression vacuum carburettor and did not need altitude compensation... Unlike my Ex's V8 Jeep Cherokee which barely made it over the 'Hump' and was down to 2nd gear!! What a whizz it was coming down the other side from Evanston into SLC -- braking all the way, 18-wheelers almost kissing your butt, and hoping I did not have to use any of the escape lanes!!! A trip I still fondly remember ;-)) On 12 Apr 2008 at 12:58, Bill L wrote: >> heading to missouri we will be leaving from what is essentially >> SEA LEVEL and headed across the rocky mountains... most of the >> interstates across WYOMING are at nearly 7000 ft.. its a downhill >> run to DENVER from I-85! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 14:46:26 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:46:26 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: Yep....flat + maybe another or 1/2 or so does sound about right. As you climb higher, you'll probably notice the idle rpm drop off as the motor runs progressively more rich (at idle) as you climb. Restoring it to prior idle rpm by careful leaning the higher you go should pretty much do the trick over the whole range. If you were gonna spend some time at 5.000'+ I'd recommend the "weak" needle as given in the manual, installing same as you climb through 3,000' or so. But for temporary work, the above mentioned should be close enough for government work. Better SLIGHTY on the rich side going uphill anyway unless ambient temp is pretty cool. Engjoy! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 12 14:49:06 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:49:06 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ Message-ID: 3.57 for CITGO 93 last week in Stamford, CT. each lower grade 10 cents cheaper. Expect it will be higher with next delivery. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Apr 12 16:28:23 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:28:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: , <192660384.20080412125853@pacifier.com> <4800B959.28182.15051E6@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00f201c89cec$853e0bb0$0201a8c0@midget> > I've done that trip (in reverse) from Huntsviol AL ( 300ft) to SLC, UT > (6,000ft) Wow! My Spridgets don't really like to go that far in reverse ;-) Lorry Denials From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Apr 12 17:30:57 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:30:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing References: <909996.75223.qm@web63504.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014a01c89cf5$433ab2a0$6501a8c0@shop> <> NO "sealants" are used on Carb(s) mounting gaskets, folks. NEVER!! Ed From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 12 16:39:51 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:39:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: <00f201c89cec$853e0bb0$0201a8c0@midget> References: , <00f201c89cec$853e0bb0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4800D7C7.3132.1C73013@dmg.bossig.com> OUCH!!!! - I left myself open for that one.... ;-)) On 12 Apr 2008 at 17:28, David Lieb wrote: >> > I've done that trip (in reverse) from Huntsviol AL ( 300ft) to SLC, >> > UT (6,000ft) >> >> Wow! My Spridgets don't really like to go that far in reverse ;-) >> Lorry Denials -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Apr 12 17:13:36 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:13:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: <191273349.20080412094735@pacifier.com> References: <1401450874.20080412073523@pacifier.com> <191273349.20080412094735@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <48014220.4060104@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > Hello Brad, > > i had a bouncy speedo... > replaced the cable.. > i had a bouncy speedo > replaced speedo with another > i had a bouncy speedo > replaced speedo with YET ANOTEHR > i had a bouncy speedo > replaced the tranny with a 5 speed > i HAVE A STABLE SPEEDO. > > > Hey, I had that same problem, mine was a semi bad plastic speedo drive on the tranny. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Apr 12 17:34:21 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:34:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions In-Reply-To: <48014220.4060104@comcast.net> References: <1401450874.20080412073523@pacifier.com> <191273349.20080412094735@pacifier.com> <48014220.4060104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3210644027.20080412163421@pacifier.com> Hello, my thinking to get the speedo to work was that is was a transmission problem. i had heard that you could get a screwdriver and a hammer and kinda smash the thing while still in the car but for a proper fix, the tranny had to come out to replace that plastic gear drive... and as long as the tranny has to come, WHY put it back, when Paul A. lives less than an hour away with 5 speed trannys and kits, and tools! as soon as second gear started to "grunch"... well now there were TWO problems with the thing... it HAD to GO! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 From nory1 at adelphia.net Sat Apr 12 21:30:02 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: <8A55BEFC-E62D-46EE-BDAA-F28CCF6FDBCE@adelphia.net> I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth $12,000???? http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Apr 12 23:16:56 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:16:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: <8A55BEFC-E62D-46EE-BDAA-F28CCF6FDBCE@adelphia.net> References: <8A55BEFC-E62D-46EE-BDAA-F28CCF6FDBCE@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Guess so, it has 31 bids to get it there. Next bid meets reserve. I wouldn't pay that for it tho. Larry On Apr 12, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Nory wrote: > I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth > $12,000???? > > http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 12 23:36:54 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <90782.3970.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "I wouldn't pay that for it tho." But hey, looks like you get a free Datsun Z-car engine in the deal... (at least if memory serves me well) - David Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 04:28:05 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:28:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can't color match Sprites? In-Reply-To: <994031.97495.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <205cef430804080525r4d3843f6uaf53f3b3df15181@mail.gmail.com> <994031.97495.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804130328s74d1b8dak409ea04e618cf872@mail.gmail.com> Cool I'll check Norwoods in Long Branch. Lin On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:52 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Lin, > I don't know about Maaco in particular, but the local > paint shops have always done just fine matching colors > using the hooded camera thingy to take a pic of the > paint followed by a download to the paint computer. > > Ron > > --- Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > > > I found this post on the britishcarforum.com > > regarding the inability to > > color match our Sprites any thoughts? I was going to > > have someone perhaps > > Macco use their color gun to get a close mix what do > > you guys think? > > > > Linda > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 04:40:14 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:40:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804050748q6e3b6c3dq4eccd66e33daecb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050710w2f15a2ectcb8b5a621f639efd@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910804050748q6e3b6c3dq4eccd66e33daecb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804130340m7348c78u236499b0666d5fbe@mail.gmail.com> I feel silly asking but what does RWA, SWA mean? Lin On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, derf wrote: > Change that RWA to SWA. > > > Do a Frank and pick up a nice 71-74 body and put that bonnet on it. > > The back end is different but the Bugeye bonnets look funny on RWA > > cars, IMHO. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 04:46:47 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:46:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: <8A55BEFC-E62D-46EE-BDAA-F28CCF6FDBCE@adelphia.net> References: <8A55BEFC-E62D-46EE-BDAA-F28CCF6FDBCE@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <205cef430804130346u4aefe78dh737fb26a8e6f6325@mail.gmail.com> Nory, I don't know much about the E's but perhaps it is rare because of the foot wells vs the flat floor comments in the q&a section. Lin On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Nory wrote: > I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth > $12,000???? > > http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 05:00:01 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:00:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Soft top In-Reply-To: <00ab01c89b88$eabbc190$6600a8c0@dave> References: <00ab01c89b88$eabbc190$6600a8c0@dave> Message-ID: <205cef430804130400u4283b104r7cabd232769a6498@mail.gmail.com> David, Good to know. I have heard of Robbins but not Crown. Where are the Crown tops found? Lin On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:02 AM, David Riker wrote: > About 5 years ago, I bought a very expensive cloth top with zip out rear > window from LBC car co. When I received it, I was impressed with > everything > but the plastic windows. They felt thin and cheap. My fears were > accurate, > as in the first 6 months, they began to yellow. The top is kept down, and > the car is always garaged except when driving, which has been no more than > 15,000 miles in 5 years. This spring when I went to raise the top, the > side > plastic window cracked. The plastic on the Robbins tops, and the Crown > tops > is much thicker and I have had them last 8-10 years with no problem. > David Riker > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Bastedo" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Soft top > > > > Yes, I recently received and fitted one from Prestige. > > http://www.prestigeautotrim.com/usa/usa/tops/midget_hoods.htm > > > > I chose SV vinyl with a zip out rear window. > > > > They were out of stock but made one within a week and shipped it from > > Liverpool to me in WA state for less than I would have paid a local > > provider. I had mine within 2 weeks of ordering. > > > > The quality is great, the zip out rear window is a very nice option. > That > > is > > to say it was done very well and professionally and looks / operates > > great. > > The fit was perfect, and little touches like including all needed > > fasteners > > and pre cutting the holes for the fasteners but not installing them so > as > > to > > not mar the finish during shipment were greatly appreciated. > > > > Rick Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 05:00:47 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:00:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] LIFE SAVING...Inflammatory Breast Cancer In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804101119y7602a1a0w1260ad47b47f7d7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10804101119y7602a1a0w1260ad47b47f7d7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804130400i33d2ecfduc20f7eed7e5cb4a1@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Herb, Lin On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 2:19 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Guys & Gals, > > I knew nothing of this type of breast cancer until a lady friend sent this > video. Perhaps, like me, you've never heard of Inflammatory Breast > Cancer...but it's deadly. > > I have two adult daughters, a mother and many female friends and > acquaintances and I want nothing more than for each of them to live > "cancer > free". > > And I'm sure you feel the same. Pass this on to everyone you know...men > and > women so they will pass it on as well. > > Herb > P.S. If you are offended by my sending this...TS!!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9_UrVtc6c > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 05:11:36 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:11:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] POR Fuel tank stuff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430804130411r289e5ca6vcdee1ea497fa3b20@mail.gmail.com> Robert, I'm going to skip the treatment and go with a new tank I found on the Bus Depot.com for less than $90. Lin On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:34 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 4/5/2008 7:18:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > can anyone tell me if > they have had any success with this stuff > > > > Linda, I've never used it, but I'd contact POR and ask how it reacts to > ethanol and the MBwhatever stuff the Kalifornians are putting in fuel. > Gas is > gas is not true anymore and what once worked great may not work now. > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > **************Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. > ( > http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016 > ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 05:26:36 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:26:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC .............66 VW bus bumpers wanted front & rear any condition Message-ID: <205cef430804130426h305195c5nd7a1bdb63c143c7b@mail.gmail.com> List, I found out that all Split Screen VW's are over priced and so are the parts. The rear bumper especially is ridiculously overpriced at $250 all rusted and dented. So I am going to try and find a set for my 66 bus from a non VW person. Any leads are appreciated. I hope to have her look like this http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=560093 Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite (Pinky) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 13 06:07:49 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:07:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years References: <205cef430804050541g38d8c4c6o22e7933f6ce7b839@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910804050710w2f15a2ectcb8b5a621f639efd@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910804050748q6e3b6c3dq4eccd66e33daecb5@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430804130340m7348c78u236499b0666d5fbe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <052a01c89d5e$fec9bde0$6401a8c0@Larry> RWA = Round Wheel Arch Late '71 - '74 SWA = Square Wheel Arch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "derf" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 5:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet years I feel silly asking but what does RWA, SWA mean? Lin On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 10:48 AM, derf wrote: > Change that RWA to SWA. > > > Do a Frank and pick up a nice 71-74 body and put that bonnet on it. > > The back end is different but the Bugeye bonnets look funny on RWA > > cars, IMHO. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 06:37:50 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:37:50 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay XK-E Message-ID: "I wouldn't pay that for it though" Pretty rare around here, anyway. Depends entirely how much rust there is, how much of the work you can do yourself and/or if you've got about 40k or so to give to a pro! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 06:42:00 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:42:00 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Two more questions Message-ID: "Bouncy speedo" Replaced the plastic tranny gear drive less than 5k ago....worked smoothly for 4.000 miles....than began bouncing again before going to "0". Chinese part, obviously. The hell with it.....don't need no steeenking speedo! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmeadow at juno.com Sun Apr 13 06:43:37 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:43:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: <20080413.074337.4092.0.dmeadow@juno.com> The flat floor E-Types are worth a bit more. I've got one. However, this one isn't a flat floor, according to the seller. This is a easily a $100k+ restoration effort. The car could be sold for $120k or more once it is done, so the economics are thin. Looks like there is some interest from the UK, where they are much more adept at bringing these things back to life. With the dollar weak, maybe it makes more economic sense there. David On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:46:47 -0400 "Linda Grunthaner" writes: > Nory, > I don't know much about the E's but perhaps it is rare because of > the foot > wells vs the flat floor comments in the q&a section. > Lin > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Nory wrote: > > > I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth > > $12,000???? > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 07:01:20 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:01:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: $100K eh??! Well, you own one so you ought to know, David. They ARE beautiful machines! :)_ Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Apr 13 07:20:13 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 06:20:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: <01bc01c89d69$1b42aae0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Reserve's met, it's up to $13,500. Insane, if you ask me... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Larry Macy [lmacy at phillymgclub.com] Sent: 4/13/2008 1:16:56 AM To: nory1 at adelphia.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Guess so, it has 31 bids to get it there. Next bid meets reserve. I wouldn't pay that for it tho. Larry On Apr 12, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Nory wrote: > I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth > $12,000???? > > http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Apr 13 07:25:09 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:25:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I actually beg to disagree. IMHO the E-Type is an odd looking duck. Want's to be a swan, but failed, and failed badly. Long nose, longer than needs be, wheels stuck a foot inside the wheel wells (which, IMHO is the worst design element on the car), Can't possibly work on the damn thing. Way overpriced new and worse now-a-days. I could go on, but I expect I will be severely abused. Just not my cuppa tea, I have no interest in an E-Type. I think a big healey looks better, but I think that is a design gone badly wrong as well. To all the E-Type lovers out there, sorry, but that's my opinion. Larry On Apr 13, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > $100K eh??! Well, you own one so you ought to know, David. > > They ARE beautiful machines! :)_ > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Apr 13 07:39:14 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:39:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag References: Message-ID: <012c01c89d6b$e886f7c0$0201a8c0@midget> >I actually beg to disagree. IMHO the E-Type is an odd looking duck. > Want's to be a swan, but failed, and failed badly. Larry, At least one of us agrees with you. Especially about the tracking width. Never have understood that. The extra width of the car accomplishes nothing positive with that narrow little track. The E-Type coupe is an even stranger duck. I have read Peter Egans' Side Glance articles about women swooning over his E-Type coupe and figured he must have a great fiction career awaiting him someday. David Lieb From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 07:42:54 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:42:54 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: "Do not need altitude compensation" Hmmmm.... than why the rich and weak needles, Dave? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 08:05:32 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:05:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: I think the E-type has a gorgeous body. Back when I was kid, my boss had one and I drove it many times between his stores in Stamford and Mt. Kisco, NY. Winding country road between the two once out of the towns proper. Car went like and handled like a dream. Loved that car....BRG with black interior with chrome WW. Gorgeous machine. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 08:06:39 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:06:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: No begging required! Different strokes for different folks (at different times). Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 08:08:15 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:08:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: "Insane........." "One man's poison..........." :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmg at bossig.com Sun Apr 13 08:40:59 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 07:40:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4801B90B.28874.184CA4@dmg.bossig.com> On 13 Apr 2008 at 13:42, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: >> "Do not need altitude compensation" >> >> Hmmmm.... >> than why the rich and weak needles, Dave? I don't know the answer to that one.... ;-\ I never got that deep into tuning... I just use the little pin on the side and a colortune... I only know the beast ran well all the way on that trip... even at -20F!! Maybe I was just lucky -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 09:12:11 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:12:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing Message-ID: Well... I think there's a reason for those different recommended needles for the stock engine in the factory manuals or they wouldn't bother listing them? (Then again, they're British so maybe they would!. :). The SU is a "constant VELOCITY" carb. "Volume" increases as air valve rises but "density" of air depends upon "density" altitude (pressure altitude corrected for temperature....they haven't found a way to correct for relative humidity far as I know). So a cubic foot of air at 5.000 feet contains less "air molecules" than a cubic foot of air at sea level. Layman's terms..."what it all means"....... Here's what Burlen told me: "Weak" needle is basically for motors run at/over density altitudes of 3.000'. "Rich" needle for "drive it like you stole it" WOT/redline types, or if you're running lower than recommended octane (combustion cooling) or maybe you're running slightly higher than stock compression ratio or added a header and maybe free-flow air filters, etc. Anyhow, that's what they told me. Do I "know". No. My area of expertise is safe civilian airplane driving within a controlled civilian environment. Always willing to learn though and welcome knowledge, remarks from others 'cause maybe I heard wrong or misunderstood. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Apr 13 09:14:13 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 08:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: <012c01c89d6b$e886f7c0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <936692.31775.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > At least one of us agrees with you. Especially about At least one disagrees. I also had the pleasure of having one given to me for a month to "please put miles on it", and it was by far the nicest all around car I've driven. Like a Lotus, it shrinks around you as you drive it, and the straight 6 was like a freight train with a wild side. And the sound.....(insert Homer Simpson pleasure noises here). I personally believe the automotive design world would be a better place if in 1961 they rolled out the E-Type and everyone said "yup, that's it. No point in trying to improve THAT. We're done." The guy who bought my BGT has a C-Type (no, that's not a typo) and that doesn't suck either. Enjoying my first day off since February (maybe we'll color Easter eggs a few weeks late), Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 09:29:51 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:29:51 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: "Shrinks around you as you drive it" Purrfect! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 13 10:07:17 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Good method on removing old windshied / body seal Message-ID: <947312.70460.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any good method for removing / replacing windshield/bodsy seal. I've got a windshield I need to change out. Gasket on old windshield appears to be in really fine shape. Have a new gasket but have read lots of stories about them not fitting well. Any tips on removing / saving a windshield gasket. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Apr 13 10:23:37 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:23:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Good method on removing old windshied / body seal In-Reply-To: <947312.70460.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <947312.70460.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48023389.6090800@frontiernet.net> Try some cooking oil. It won't hurt the rubber like petroleum products will, and it helps it slide right off. Kate James Gruber wrote: > Any good method for removing / replacing windshield/bodsy seal. From dmg at bossig.com Sun Apr 13 10:33:20 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 09:33:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Good method on removing old windshied / body seal In-Reply-To: <48023389.6090800@frontiernet.net> References: <947312.70460.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <48023389.6090800@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4801D360.26306.7F2699@dmg.bossig.com> For lubricating before re-fitting, try a product called "Udder Butter", available from your local farm supply house.... It does not cause any damage to the seal compound!! On 13 Apr 2008 at 9:23, Kate wrote: >> Try some cooking oil. It won't hurt the rubber like petroleum products >> will, and it helps it slide right off. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 13 10:40:28 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:40:28 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Good method on removing old windshied / body seal Message-ID: Hi, Kate... :) Soapy water? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Apr 13 11:04:18 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:04:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Early Spridget switches Message-ID: I am looking for an early Spridget Lucas switch. This is the toggle switch, used for the single speed wiper control in the Midget MkI, or the Sprite MkII. I had two of them, but they didn't work well. I took them apart and made one good one. If you have any broken ones, I would be thankful to get them. The plastic switch lever on mine is good, but I am in dire need of the internal bits. This switch is the 3/4 by 5/8 switch, not the larger ones that they used in the roll up window cars. I can supply photos if that would help. Thank you, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tinydog at snet.net Sun Apr 13 11:21:48 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:21:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <041320081721.6897.4802412C0002B00B00001AF122230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: If the E-type and Big Healey were "designs gone badly wrong", then that puts the rubber-bumper Midget and MGB in a whole new light. -------------- Original message from Larry Macy : -------------- > I actually beg to disagree. IMHO the E-Type is an odd looking duck. > Want's to be a swan, but failed, and failed badly. Long nose, longer > than needs be, wheels stuck a foot inside the wheel wells (which, IMHO > is the worst design element on the car), Can't possibly work on the > damn thing. Way overpriced new and worse now-a-days. I could go on, > but I expect I will be severely abused. > > Just not my cuppa tea, I have no interest in an E-Type. I think a big > healey looks better, but I think that is a design gone badly wrong as > well. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 13 12:23:43 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:23:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (Part 1) Message-ID: <060701c89d93$81d76730$6401a8c0@Larry> Charles Navarro from LN Engineering gave his tech session at our car club yesterday. One of the things he said about the modern oils is that, in addition to lower levels of Zinc and Phosphorous, they are using calcium sulfate detergents. The wear rate with these detergents is much higher, but they last longer contributing to the longer drain intervals many car companies are now calling for. Without getting into too much of the technical stuff, he said the amount of Zn and P needed is dependant on valve spring pressures and that we should ideally be using a minimum of 1200 ppm up to around 1450 to 1500 ppm for our stock cars. Using more than that will do no good and, at very high levels, will start fouling plugs. The moly additives are good, especially for race motors, and the Boron additives work only in conjunction with high levels of Zn and P. He said we should definitely be using the same oil with high levels of Zn and P in our trannies as we do in our motors. Of the DIY additives, he likes GM's EOS the best and said that the recently re-introduced product has the same levels of Zn and P as the old stuff -- they just changed the color and made it stink. The STP additives rank as the blue bottle being pretty lame, the red bottle has a bit more and the new white bottle (oil stabilizer) has the most. The STP white bottle has about as much as halfway between the STP blue bottle and the GM EOS. As to ZDDPlus, he said he doesn't trust it. He hasn't tested it, but, when it first came out, they called him looking for an endorsement and asking him to sell it. When he started asking them technical questions, they couldn't answer him. He figures that this is just a few guys that bought up some pure ZDDP, diluted the hell out of it and are trying to cash in. He is not saying it is necessarily a bad product -- just that these guys don't really know what they are doing. They are just marketing people without an engineering department. To be continued.... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 13 12:24:48 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:24:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (Part 2) Message-ID: <060a01c89d93$a8aea3f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Continued... Charles also said that he doesn't think it is a good idea to raise the Zn and P levels more than around 200 ppm or so with DIY additives as you are changing the chemistry of your oil when you do that. He said it is much better to just buy the correct oil in the first place that has been put together by the people who actually know what they are doing. He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. (By the way, for you racers, he said the Swepco rated a little higher on the dyno than the Brad Penn.) Amalie is the same stuff as Brad Penn. You will probably need to mail order these unless your local HiPo engine builders or hot rod shop carries them. For break-in oils, he likes Brad Penn and Joe Gibbs. They have very low detergent levels, though, so change them after about 100 miles, 200 max. The Castrol HD 30 should be OK for break-in, too, and cheaper and easier to find. (They have it at my local Wal-Mart.) Charles also said that the motorcycle oils are also good. They are still formulated for flat tappets and have good levels of Zn and P and don't have the calcium detergents. Acceptable ones are Mobil One V-Twin, Royal Purple Max Cycle, and Amsoil Harley. He said that Amsoil, despite their marketing methods, puts out a good oil. The MC oils have a lower total base number (TBN) -- which is the amount of alkalinity available to deal with acids in your oil. The Brad Penn has a very high TBN. He said that virtually none of the oils carried in AutoZone or Puke Boys, etc. is any good anymore. Lots of these companies are re-formulating their oils on a regular basis and not saying so on their labels. Anything that says "ashless anti-wear technology", or similar, is poison -- stay away. The old stand bys like Pennzoil VR-1 and Castrol GTX are no good anymore. The Pennzoil VR-1 that is not street legal , like most, but not all, racing oils has good levels of Zn and P, but very little detergent. That is fine if you are racing and changing your oil after every weekend. That won't work on your normal street car. As to oil changes, he said that cars with carbs and 4 to 5 quart oil capacities should be changed at 2500 miles. With FI, you can go to 3000. He also gave us some insight into oil filters. He likes WIX, NAPA Gold, Mobil 1 and K&N Gold. He said Fram absolutely sucks and that Purolator, while filtering very well, restricts flow too much. Mann, if you can find them, are also good. Larry Daniels From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 12:29:01 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (LONG) In-Reply-To: <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Larry, Did he say the 15/40 Brad Penn oil or the 20/50 racing Brad Penn is what we should use in our cars? LN Engineering sells both and more inexpensive than I can find other places on the web. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 > He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. > Larry Daniels From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 13 12:34:09 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:34:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (LONG) References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> The 20w50. We put this session on with our Brit Car Club in conjunction with the local Porsche club and the 356 club. The Porsche guys brought one of their favorite custom painters along who also sells this oil. I picked up 2 cases from him @ $47.50 ea. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com Cc: Spridgets List ; mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com ; MG List ; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (LONG) Larry, Did he say the 15/40 Brad Penn oil or the 20/50 racing Brad Penn is what we should use in our cars? LN Engineering sells both and more inexpensive than I can find other places on the web. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 > He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. > Larry Daniels > > > __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (2) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | Calendar If you want to unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 3New Members Visit Your Group Y! Sports for TV Game Day Companion Live fantasy league & game stats on TV. Yahoo! News Odd News You won't believe it, but it's true Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. . __,_._,___ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 13 12:42:47 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (LONG) In-Reply-To: <063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <20c58a5831aa59a3ca204a2a.20080413114247.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Thanks Larry. I found a local distributor of Brad Penn oils here in Long Beach, California. KRS Distributing at 1520 Oregon Avenue, Long Beach, CA (562) 437-2310 sells it, just ask for Travis. Supposedly B&T Performance Engine Balancing in Laverne, CA also sells it, but I have not checked on them yet. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Larry Daniels > The 20w50. We put this session on with our Brit Car Club in conjunction > with the local Porsche club and the 356 club. The Porsche guys brought > one of their favorite custom painters along who also sells this oil. I > picked up 2 cases from him @ $47.50 ea. > > > Larry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Cc: Spridgets List ; mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com ; MG List ; > bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations > (LONG) > > > Larry, > Did he say the 15/40 Brad Penn oil or the 20/50 racing Brad Penn is > what we should use in our cars? LN Engineering sells both and more > inexpensive than I can find other places on the web. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > >> He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. > >> Larry Daniels >> >> >> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Apr 13 13:00:10 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:00:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry><7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <20c58a5831aa59a3ca204a2a.20080413114247.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <019f01c89d98$9a16bb70$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I see that the Brad Penn oils are available in a straight 50W, anybody using it instead of the 20W50 as a summer oil? From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Apr 13 14:06:35 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:06:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: <936692.31775.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <936692.31775.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, you will note I said nothing about the driving of one, I have never had the pleasure. I hear they are great cars to drive, but in my opinion, they are nothing to look at. That bit about sticking the wheels 2 feet inside the wings was a BAD call, IMHO. looks like they tried to graft a swoopy body on a go cart. They may drive like a dream (and I have heard other opinions about that), but they have no looks. Again it is just my opinion, nothing else in here matters. It is all about an opinion. Larry On Apr 13, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- David Lieb wrote: >> At least one of us agrees with you. Especially about > > At least one disagrees. I also had the pleasure of > having one given to me for a month to "please put > miles on it", and it was by far the nicest all around > car I've driven. Like a Lotus, it shrinks around you > as you drive it, and the straight 6 was like a freight > train with a wild side. And the sound.....(insert > Homer Simpson pleasure noises here). I personally > believe the automotive design world would be a better > place if in 1961 they rolled out the E-Type and > everyone said "yup, that's it. No point in trying to > improve THAT. We're done." The guy who bought my BGT > has a C-Type (no, that's not a typo) and that doesn't > suck either. > > Enjoying my first day off since February (maybe we'll > color Easter eggs a few weeks late), > > Ron > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Apr 13 14:13:27 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:13:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag In-Reply-To: <041320081721.6897.4802412C0002B00B00001AF122230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <041320081721.6897.4802412C0002B00B00001AF122230647629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <3A6BC210-E06A-4B75-8745-313E7748A1B4@phillymgclub.com> Well tinydog, if you like tiny dogs, then I see your point. If you look at the profile of a RB Midget, it has a nice flow to it. I never said it was the best. THe RB MGB's on the other hand are a bad attempt to graft something onto a pretty decent style. But it also has the wheels stuck a foot inside. I like the older Spridgets, but I think they have the front end cut off, kinda like a modern SUV. I am only speaking about profile, from about any other angle (and on a RB Midget, the rear is the worst), a Spridget has a "design follows function" ideal to it. Larry On Apr 13, 2008, at 1:21 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog sez: > If the E-type and Big Healey were "designs gone badly wrong", then > that puts the rubber-bumper Midget and MGB in a whole new light. > > > -------------- Original message from Larry Macy >: -------------- > > >> I actually beg to disagree. IMHO the E-Type is an odd looking duck. >> Want's to be a swan, but failed, and failed badly. Long nose, longer >> than needs be, wheels stuck a foot inside the wheel wells (which, >> IMHO >> is the worst design element on the car), Can't possibly work on the >> damn thing. Way overpriced new and worse now-a-days. I could go on, >> but I expect I will be severely abused. >> >> Just not my cuppa tea, I have no interest in an E-Type. I think a big >> healey looks better, but I think that is a design gone badly wrong as >> well. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Apr 13 14:40:44 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:40:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites Message-ID: '67 was last year of pre-emissions motors here in the States, anyway. Most '67's also had the Cooper S mechanical advance dizzy also, #40819 along with the very effective and simple "flying saucer" intake manifold mounted PCV valve. Works good, lasts long time. Some '67's also came with a forged steel cranks (or so the books say) considering this was the year of the initial ("early") "thin-wall" blocks. CapBob From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Apr 13 15:15:07 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:15:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites Message-ID: <30448307.1208121307655.JavaMail.root@wmvirt88> I don't know what the subject was that started these comments but here's some stuff that I know: 1) '67 was last year of pre-emissions motors here in the States, anyway. Yes, the early 67s were 1098s and the late 67s had the pre-smog 1275. 2) Most '67's also had the Cooper S mechanical advance dizzy also, #40819 along with the very effective and simple "flying saucer" intake manifold mounted PCV valve. Works good, lasts long time. Don't know about the dizzy on the 1098s but all of the pre-smog 1275s had the mechanical only dizzy. The gulp valve came on both engines. 3) Some '67's also came with a forged steel cranks (or so the books say) considering this was the year of the initial ("early") "thin-wall" blocks. The pre-smog 1275 had the cross drilled crank that was nitrided. The smog model 1275s had tuftrided cranks. The pre-smog 1275s also had the Cooper S rods and a better cam profile than those that followed. It was also the highest rated HP engine in the spridgets and it got really good gas milage... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget 1963 TR-4 junker PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Apr 13 16:02:04 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry><7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry><20c58a5831aa59a3ca204a2a.20080413114247.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <019f01c89d98$9a16bb70$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <066a01c89db2$02880fb0$6401a8c0@Larry> Mark, he did say that straight weights are OK for racing, but didn't think much of them for regular street use because they are only recommended in such a narrow temperature band. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT I see that the Brad Penn oils are available in a straight 50W, anybody using it instead of the 20W50 as a summer oil? You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sun Apr 13 16:19:48 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Identifying a Pre-Smog '67 1275 ? Message-ID: <004c01c89db4$7cb37930$72026f47@DBKF4T81> I have a 1275 engine that has been sitting around my place for quite some time now. To my untrained / uneducated eye the engine flange seems thinner than those I've seen on other 1275's. Unfortunately, I don't have another engine to compare it to right now. The engine no longer has an engine tag. At one point in time I did take a look at the casting number on the head but can no longer remember what it was. Any other hints as to how I might identify this engine? Thanks, Pete From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Apr 13 16:21:42 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:21:42 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Oil Formulations 50WT Message-ID: That and they haven't got the additive packages to keep the oil (fight contamination) "clean" in normal street use considering racing oil/filter is changed VERY frequently relative to street oil/filter changes. CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:02 PM To: Mark, bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets Subject: Bugeye Group..... Re: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT Mark, he did say that straight weights are OK for racing, but didn't think much of them for regular street use because they are only recommended in such a narrow temperature band. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT I see that the Brad Penn oils are available in a straight 50W, anybody using it instead of the 20W50 as a summer oil? You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Apr 13 16:28:23 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:28:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Identifying a Pre-Smog '67 1275 ? Message-ID: Have someone measure later known post '67 engine "flange" thickness for comparison. There should be a "1275" cast into the block on the left forward (?) side above the flangeline I believe. Either Peter C. or one of the more learned types will probably be along soon with more accurate advice. CapBob From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Apr 13 16:30:02 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:30:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Identifying a Pre-Smog '67 1275 ? In-Reply-To: <004c01c89db4$7cb37930$72026f47@DBKF4T81> References: <004c01c89db4$7cb37930$72026f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <454589834.20080413153002@pacifier.com> Hello Peter, i think the best way to identify it would be for you to give it to me. as you know i have the flywheel ready so i can hook it right up to the 5 speed in the red thing. then you can look and identify it as the one you gave me! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "This ocean is calm," said the sailors specifically. (*2) From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Apr 13 17:45:39 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Identifying a Pre-Smog '67 1275 ? Message-ID: <27667300.1208130339288.JavaMail.root@wmvirt8> > At one point in time I did take a look at the casting number on the head but > can no longer remember what it was. > > Any other hints as to how I might identify this engine? The pre-smog engines have no air rail holes in the head. They have gennys instead of alts and the approriate brackets for such. The T-stat housing is for a downflow rad (faces the pass side) and does not have an ear on it for the smog pump. The exhaust manifold is the clamp style, not the later 3 stud style. They have the cannister type oil fliters, not the spin on. The valve cover has the plastic cap with the plastic lanyard attached. I realize that you don't have an engine tag but they were all 12CC engines. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From twobees at sprynet.com Sun Apr 13 17:58:29 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:58:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ Message-ID: <002501c89dc2$46545f90$65451645@normoffice> While we sit here & complain about our $3.35 - $3.50 a gallon gas, what are Europeans paying? Last time I drove there was 12 years ago & gas was c. $6.00 per US gallon. Strange thing -- during the time regular pump gas has gone from $2/gal to $3.50, race gas has only gone up by about the same dollar amount -- <$6.00 to $7.00. Percentage-wise that's a lot less. And, what's with diesel? It used to be that it was always less than regular. Now it's more than premium. It is alleged that it is because of the new low-sulphur regs. Is it? Norm Sippel '59 Turner From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Apr 13 18:04:08 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <002501c89dc2$46545f90$65451645@normoffice> Message-ID: <635650.12037.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Norm 2Bs wrote: > While we sit here & complain about our $3.35 - $3.50 > a gallon gas, what are > Europeans paying? I was in Brazil last week, it was $7+ per gallon. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dmg at bossig.com Sun Apr 13 18:35:32 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <002501c89dc2$46545f90$65451645@normoffice> References: <002501c89dc2$46545f90$65451645@normoffice> Message-ID: <48024464.24261.2389CD1@dmg.bossig.com> FWIW... as an ex-Brit... 1) A European gallon has 8 pts of 20 fl oz = 160 fl. oz .... ~ 4.0c/oz a US gallon has 8 pts of 16 fl oz = 128 flo. oz. _~2.75c/oz - a difference of 20% in a the size of the gallon... - a difference of approx 25% in price. (If my calculator is correct!) 2) The US pumps oil in many states. Europe doesn't pump any oil, except (AFAIK) for Scotland and North Sea Oil. 3) At budget time, the European governments traditionally raise the taxes on Beer, Alcohol, Cigarettes and Gasoline... British taxes on gas used to be the major part of the cost.. On 13 Apr 2008 at 19:58, Norm 2Bs wrote: >> While we sit here & complain about our $3.35 - $3.50 a gallon gas, >> what are Europeans paying? Last time I drove there was 12 years ago & >> gas was c. $6.00 per US gallon. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 18:44:31 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:44:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carburetor Gasketing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4802A8EF.20208@comcast.net> Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > Well... > > I think there's a reason for those different > recommended needles for the stock engine in the factory manuals or they wouldn't bother listing them? > The SU book mentions the fact that the "weak" needles are for high altitudes and have nothing to do with better mileage. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 18:59:38 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:59:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4802AC7A.4090803@comcast.net> Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > '67 was last year of pre-emissions motors here in the States, anyway. > Yeah I know, and my recently finished 67 also came with an ultra modern sound system which not only includes AM and FM radio band widths, but this new fangled tape system that plays something called 8 track tapes! This is what my first 67 looked like in 1972, I have duplicated it. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67d.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From davegran at ticon.net Sun Apr 13 19:41:04 2008 From: davegran at ticon.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag Message-ID: <4802B630.5E8F@ticon.net> Ron Soave wrote: > At least one disagrees. I also had the pleasure of > having one given to me for a month to "please put > miles on it", and it was by far the nicest all around > car I've driven. Oh yeah, I've got to agree with Ron on this one. I was lucky enough to have put quite a few miles on two early 60's coupes while I was in my early 20's.... Compared to the Corvette of the same period, they were much more refined. The straight six cylinder engine was almost turbine-like in it's smoothness. An absence of wind noise at high speeds (I drove them in Nevada and got one up to 140mph) told me that their aerodynamics were based on physics, not marketing. The disc brakes were incredible, having been proven earlier at LeMans. As Ron alluded, the suspension, the seating, and the steering made the XKE become an extension of your arms and legs. These cars were so good they were spooky. -- Dave Grandeffo www.kettlemorainemotorsports.com Southern Wisconsin USA From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 21:21:17 2008 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:21:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Jag References: <20080413.074337.4092.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <006201c89dde$9aada170$6501a8c0@shop> Well, it's all moot now!! Went for $15,933.00. To me, as they say at BpJ Auction; "Well bought" (NOT including shipping!!). <> Looks like it's gonna be paid for in Francs or Euros!! And I AGREE w/above!! <> True, but unless you have had the SERIOUS MIS-fortune of doing the rear IN-BOARD disc brake job, you just haven't LIVED!!! The Exhaust has to be re-moved and drive-shaft; and THEN one gets to drop a "sub-frame" containing said "system"!! er, oh BTW the bolts going thru alum back into steel have the strange problem of deciding to STAY where they where put!!! After did ONE, the E-types more than joined my List of "NEVER in my drive" types such as TR-7/8s & Spits!!! Waterboarding is EASIER!! From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Apr 13 20:28:11 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:28:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites Message-ID: Looks great, man! :) CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:59 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer Cc: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > '67 was last year of pre-emissions motors here in the States, anyway. > Yeah I know, and my recently finished 67 also came with an ultra modern sound system which not only includes AM and FM radio band widths, but this new fangled tape system that plays something called 8 track tapes! This is what my first 67 looked like in 1972, I have duplicated it. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67d.jpg -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sun Apr 13 20:37:43 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:37:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites Message-ID: <32565468.1208140663309.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> This is what my first 67 looked like in 1972, I have duplicated it. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67d.jpg Hey Frank, The shifter hat was not chrome in 1967... Is that your answer to not having a gold (or chrome) arrow on the back? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Apr 13 20:43:57 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:43:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question Message-ID: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> Lets see if I can word this right to possibly get an answer to the problem J New roller ball bearings (thrust type) installed on the front hubs. Both sides were installed 68 miles ago (i.e. races seated right and the spacer inserted correctly. Now the drivers side still is the way it should be but the passenger side has play in the hub. Checked that the nut was snugged down and all looks correct. Any ideas on the problem and how to correct it? Have heard before about shims being necessary sometimes but dont understand that concept.Ideas and no I dont want to change to tapered roller bearings if at all possible. Oh yea..the car is a 1960 Bugeye (aka Iris) Thanks Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 13 20:58:48 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:58:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites In-Reply-To: <32565468.1208140663309.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> References: <32565468.1208140663309.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> Message-ID: <4802C868.3010700@comcast.net> bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote: > This is what my first 67 looked like in 1972, I have duplicated it. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67d.jpg > > Hey Frank, The shifter hat was not chrome in 1967... Is that your answer to not having a gold (or chrome) arrow on the back? > > My shifter was chrome on my 1st 67 Sprite. I bought it from JC Whitney or Bakers, or MG Mitten, or one of those accessories places back in the day, I have the correct Rally mirror, Sport grip on the steering wheel, 8 track, and chrome shifter along with aftermarket air cleaners, and the FM boost antennae. Everything I had back in 1972, some of which my ole man put on the car because I bought it off him, he bought the car in 1969 to replace his TR3. Now if I can just find those custom fitted cocoa mats ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 14 01:18:34 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:18:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites In-Reply-To: <4802C868.3010700@comcast.net> References: <32565468.1208140663309.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> <4802C868.3010700@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804140018m4b9cc71mb7f9ea255d2e91c1@mail.gmail.com> Can I watch you change the 8 track tape while driving in 3rd gear? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Apr 14 04:16:03 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:16:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Desirable '67 Sprites In-Reply-To: <4802AC7A.4090803@comcast.net> References: <4802AC7A.4090803@comcast.net> Message-ID: Right down to the MG seat belts and the hose clamp on the floor?? Larry On Apr 13, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > This is what my first 67 looked like in 1972, I have duplicated it. > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67d.jpg > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Apr 14 11:49:36 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:49:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (Part 2) In-Reply-To: <060a01c89d93$a8aea3f0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <060a01c89d93$a8aea3f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Sounds pretty much like the latest update on his website. For those considering doctoring your existing supply of SM-rated oil, the formula for GM EOS is 1/2 oz. per quart to raise Zn and P by 100 ppm. So if your favorite oil company claims on their product information sheet that their potion is 900 ppm ZDDP, do the math and get out your measuring spoons. -JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:25 PM To: Spridgets List; MG List Subject: [Spridgets] Guest Speaker on Oil Formulations (Part 2) Continued... Charles also said that he doesn't think it is a good idea to raise the Zn and P levels more than around 200 ppm or so with DIY additives as you are changing the chemistry of your oil when you do that. He said it is much better to just buy the correct oil in the first place that has been put together by the people who actually know what they are doing. He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. (By the way, for you racers, he said the Swepco rated a little higher on the dyno than the Brad Penn.) Amalie is the same stuff as Brad Penn. You will probably need to mail order these unless your local HiPo engine builders or hot rod shop carries them. For break-in oils, he likes Brad Penn and Joe Gibbs. They have very low detergent levels, though, so change them after about 100 miles, 200 max. The Castrol HD 30 should be OK for break-in, too, and cheaper and easier to find. (They have it at my local Wal-Mart.) Charles also said that the motorcycle oils are also good. They are still formulated for flat tappets and have good levels of Zn and P and don't have the calcium detergents. Acceptable ones are Mobil One V-Twin, Royal Purple Max Cycle, and Amsoil Harley. He said that Amsoil, despite their marketing methods, puts out a good oil. The MC oils have a lower total base number (TBN) -- which is the amount of alkalinity available to deal with acids in your oil. The Brad Penn has a very high TBN. He said that virtually none of the oils carried in AutoZone or Puke Boys, etc. is any good anymore. Lots of these companies are re-formulating their oils on a regular basis and not saying so on their labels. Anything that says "ashless anti-wear technology", or similar, is poison -- stay away. The old stand bys like Pennzoil VR-1 and Castrol GTX are no good anymore. The Pennzoil VR-1 that is not street legal , like most, but not all, racing oils has good levels of Zn and P, but very little detergent. That is fine if you are racing and changing your oil after every weekend. That won't work on your normal street car. As to oil changes, he said that cars with carbs and 4 to 5 quart oil capacities should be changed at 2500 miles. With FI, you can go to 3000. He also gave us some insight into oil filters. He likes WIX, NAPA Gold, Mobil 1 and K&N Gold. He said Fram absolutely sucks and that Purolator, while filtering very well, restricts flow too much. Mann, if you can find them, are also good. Larry Daniels From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Apr 14 11:52:31 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:52:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on OilFormulations (LONG) In-Reply-To: <7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry><05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry> <7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Mike: I went to the Brad Penn website and sent them an email asking about local distributors. Found a small oil company about 25 miles away from me that carries it. When shipping is $20 a case, a little travel is a bargain. John -----Original Message----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com [mailto:rrengineer at dslextreme.com] Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:29 PM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com Cc: Spridgets List; MG List; bugeye at yahoogroups.com; mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: Guest Speaker on OilFormulations (LONG) Larry, Did he say the 15/40 Brad Penn oil or the 20/50 racing Brad Penn is what we should use in our cars? LN Engineering sells both and more inexpensive than I can find other places on the web. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 > He likes Brad Penn and Swepco 306. > Larry Daniels From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Apr 14 13:38:24 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:38:24 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Jag E-Type Message-ID: In a message dated 4/13/2008 8:07:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I wouldn't pay that for it tho. Larry On Apr 12, 2008, at 11:30 PM, Nory wrote: > I know E-types are worth a lot, but is this mess really worth > $12,000???? > > _http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw_ (http://tinyurl.com/4opyaw) But you get a cool 6 cylinder GMC pickup truck engine already installed! Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 14 13:49:33 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay Message-ID: <1ad84a483e7a496daa46452a.20080414124933.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Thought someone might be interested in these rims. No financial interest, etc. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 http://tinyurl.com/5htshw From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Apr 14 14:12:59 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:12:59 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Message-ID: In a message dated 4/14/2008 11:04:33 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: And, what's with diesel? It used to be that it was always less than regular. Now it's more than premium. It is alleged that it is because of the new low-sulphur regs. Is it? National average $4.06 this week....I'm told the price is high "becasue you'll pay it". Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 14 14:24:50 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:24:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4803BD92.2070507@frontiernet.net> Just one more reason that I didn't look at any diesels when I bought Brutus. In the five years I've had him, the only thing I've needed to fix has been the heater core. > Kate > > > > National average $4.06 this week....I'm told the price is high "becasue > you'll pay it". From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Mon Apr 14 15:00:36 2008 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:00:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ References: Message-ID: <007e01c89e72$96f18490$a82ce142@owner7ccec1fe9> Talked to my buddy in Salisbury, England and they are paying 1.05 GBP /liter = about $8.25/gal ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norm 2Bs" To: "Spridgets Digest" Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:58 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ > While we sit here & complain about our $3.35 - $3.50 a gallon gas, what > are > Europeans paying? Last time I drove there was 12 years ago & gas was c. > $6.00 per US gallon. > > Strange thing -- during the time regular pump gas has gone from $2/gal to > $3.50, race gas has only gone up by about the same dollar amount -- <$6.00 > to $7.00. Percentage-wise that's a lot less. > > And, what's with diesel? It used to be that it was always less than > regular. Now it's more than premium. It is alleged that it is because of > the new low-sulphur regs. Is it? > > Norm Sippel > '59 Turner > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.8/1363 - Release Date: 4/7/2008 > 8:56 AM From gmari2 at verizon.net Mon Apr 14 15:49:48 2008 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:49:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Free TR6 Message-ID: <8968850.216001208209788708.JavaMail.root@vms068.mailsrvcs.net> Greetings Healey lists, A friend has informed me that he (his wife) wants the TR6 out of his driveway...soon. It is free to whomever wants it. It does have a title...other than that it's a non running basket case. THe car is located in Glen Rock, NJ (Northern NJ). Please contact Scott directly at rskesq at msn.com Also if anyone is on the Triumph list please forward this email to those members. Thanks George Marinos Glen ROck, N J George Marinos From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 14 16:35:57 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <1ad84a483e7a496daa46452a.20080414124933.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <170706.76728.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Thought someone might be interested in these rims. Those are my buddy Jeff Porasik's. I *personally* moved them from a spares pile from a new race car he bought - they're extremely nice. If my basement didn't resemble a wheel/tire farm, I'd have bought them on the spot for a lot more than his starting bid! Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Apr 14 17:59:55 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:59:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> A neighbor passed along his copy of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car to me - March issue. It contains a story about a restored Bugeye. The owner did most of the work himself and it turned out to be very nice. On page 68, however, I noticed that he assembled the tie rod ends with the nut facing the ground. To do that he must have reversed the steering arms so the taper would have the right orientation to match the "Up-side-down" rod end. The rod end is bent at an odd angle. I think that's wrong or at least I've never seen that done before. The British Leyland shop manual does show the rod end in the up-side-down" orientation but that's just an illustration. Or does this work OK and if so, what's the reason for doing so? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Apr 14 18:50:11 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <170706.76728.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1ad84a483e7a496daa46452a.20080414124933.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <170706.76728.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1849954941.20080414175011@pacifier.com> Hello Ron, i've been looking for a set of wheels like this for a couple of years now.. i notice tho that they are 6" wide... will they work on a SWA sprite? does anyone know if 6" wide wheels will fit MY car? http://tinyurl.com/5htshw -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "It's my personal magnetism," said Tom ironically. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 14 18:50:28 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:50:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT In-Reply-To: <019f01c89d98$9a16bb70$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <12e901c8939d$075a5c10$6401a8c0@Larry> <05c801c89d8d$a0f305d0$6401a8c0@Larry><7b4a14bba1512a797a.20080413112901.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><063301c89d94$f70cc8f0$6401a8c0@Larry> <20c58a5831aa59a3ca204a2a.20080413114247.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <019f01c89d98$9a16bb70$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: I think Chuck Christ is using straight 50 wt. Not the Brad Penn stuff tho. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > From: mark at nashvilletn.org > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:00:10 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Formulations 50WT > > I see that the Brad Penn oils are available in a straight 50W, anybody using > it instead of the 20W50 as a summer oil? _________________________________________________________________ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_ instantaccess_042008 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 14 19:19:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <1849954941.20080414175011@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <494208.99510.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All, I've received several questions (and one unrelated photograph) in response to the wheels. I don't know if they will fit a square arch car. I have run 6" Panasports on my Bugeye with no issues. Other than that, no idea. If you ask the seller, he'll probably ask me too ;-), but you can try. Ron --- Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > > i've been looking for a set of wheels like > this for a couple > of years now.. i notice tho that they are 6" > wide... > > will they work on a SWA sprite? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From hal at katemuir.com Mon Apr 14 19:40:06 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:40:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Paul A Fund Message-ID: As many of you already know, Paul Asgeirsson of Morriservice --a long time Spridgets List member, purveyor of parts for our cars, and the brains behind one of the best 5-speed adapter kits for spridgets-- has had some serious health problems recently. Although he has health insurance the co-pays have amounted to over $9000 as of about three weeks ago. Pete Schull, Paul's friend has set up an account to help defray some of Paul's unexpected expenses. The medical bills are only part of the problem as Paul has been unable spend much time keeping his business going, thus reducing his income. If any member would like to contribute to a friend in need, please feel free to donate to the Paul A Fund through Peter Schull. Instructions from Pete are: "Checks are preferable and can be made out to: The checks can be sent to me: Peter Shull 1405 NE Village Street Fairview OR 97024 Alternatively, they can be sent to: Julie A Miler US Bank, Cherry Park Branch 2541 SW Cherry Park Road Troutdale OR 97060 Wire transfers / electronic fund transfers could be made, but might draw some attention under the guidelines of the Patriot Act. If someone wishes to make an EFT donation have them get in touch with me for the routing and account numbers. Cash donations could be made, but might also draw some attention under the guidelines of the Patriot Act. Again, if someone wishes to make an cash donation have them get in touch with me for the account number." Originally, the existence of this fund was not posted to the list but now that Peter has been able to provide a first transfer of funds to Paul there is no sense not letting him know what is happening! So if any of you know anyone who might be interested in assisting a member of our community feel free to spread the word. Many of you were already aware of this situation and several donations have already found their way to the fund, but we are in no danger of exceeding the shortfall Paul is experiencing! Thank you, Hal Faulkner From hal at katemuir.com Mon Apr 14 19:50:54 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:50:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Paul A Fund In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Let me see if I can get this right "Checks are preferable and can be made out to: The Paul A fund The checks can be sent to me: Peter Shull 1405 NE Village Street Fairview OR 97024 Alternatively, they can be sent to: Julie A Miler US Bank, Cherry Park Branch 2541 SW Cherry Park Road Troutdale OR 97060 Everything else is the same. I just accidentally deleted the line that told you who to make the checks out to....... Hal From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 14 20:02:14 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC Message-ID: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What I've been doing for the last several months, 70 to 105 hours per week - rollout of the Embraer Phenom 300 on Saturday at Gaviao Peixoto, Brazil. The real work is still to come during the certification campaign. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TDBkL5-6Vw Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 14 20:33:16 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:33:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480413EC.9060105@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > What I've been doing for the last several months, > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TDBkL5-6Vw > Let me guess, it costs a brazilion bucks? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Apr 14 22:05:21 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:05:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC References: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <480413EC.9060105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0dc701c89ead$ef034980$6501a8c0@shop> <> GROAN!!! I didn't think even a Joiseyite could/would stoop THAT low, Frank!?!?!?! DL From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Mon Apr 14 21:23:17 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:23:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC Message-ID: <4395677.1208229797426.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> You'd think for a brazilion bucks it would have a complete paint job... Ed Let me guess, it costs a brazilion bucks? From dmg at bossig.com Mon Apr 14 22:09:01 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:09:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804142049h4ed09d0duacf35cfe488f9fbf@mail.gmail.com> References: <296327.23901.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, <4803B4B6.10344.2A673D6@dmg.bossig.com>, <43840a7e0804142049h4ed09d0duacf35cfe488f9fbf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Jim, Maybe that second glass of Port was *not* such a good idea... ;^) And I thought I was doing so well...... I also understand that when oil went over $90/bbl was when it became very profitable to extract the oil from the Canadian Shale deposits... As Jim(?) said... I'll just have to 'suck it up' as I have no other choice... BTW Regular was at $3.55 this morning... Should I be running a 12CCDAH with SU's on Regular, Mid or Top grade fuel??? On 14 Apr 2008 at 22:49, Jim Johnson wrote: >> I understand the model you are proposing but in reality it >> is far too simplistic. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From hal at katemuir.com Mon Apr 14 22:31:45 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Dave G asked "Should I be running a 12CCDAH with SU's on Regular, Mid or Top grade fuel???" Too many variables unspecified to give a meaningful response. What cam are you using? What is the CR? Does it detonate with Reg? Try mid, still detonate? try premium. Still pinging? retard the spark 'till it doesn't. READ VIZARD and other engine manuals! Hal From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Apr 14 22:40:04 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:40:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <1849954941.20080414175011@pacifier.com> References: <1ad84a483e7a496daa46452a.20080414124933.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <170706.76728.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1849954941.20080414175011@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <349103413.20080414214004@pacifier.com> Hello ... ok... for the group, will 5 1/2 rims fit on a square wheel arch car?.... more specifically with 175/70 13s? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Apr 15 00:23:26 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:23:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Badge Bar Message-ID: Anyone know where there is a badge bar for a bugeye, with or with out fog lamp brackets? Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Apr 15 02:43:40 2008 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:43:40 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <349103413.20080414214004@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <003d01c89ed4$ce76d9d0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> Bill, 5 1/2 J rims fit OK with 165/70/13 tyres With 175s you may need to fold the inner edge of the lip of the wheel arch back , or "ease" the wheel arch out a fraction with a baseball bat. Fitting a Panhard rod would also help locate the axle and prevent the tyre wall rubbing on hard cornering. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: 15 April 2008 05:40 To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay Hello ... ok... for the group, will 5 1/2 rims fit on a square wheel arch car?.... more specifically with 175/70 13s? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 14/04/2008 09:26 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: 14/04/2008 09:26 From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Apr 15 04:30:49 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <349103413.20080414214004@pacifier.com> References: <1ad84a483e7a496daa46452a.20080414124933.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <170706.76728.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1849954941.20080414175011@pacifier.com> <349103413.20080414214004@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <9385E92C-04D2-4D1C-8209-6B20E17B04F5@phillymgclub.com> Yes, THat is what I am running on my Midget. 5 1/2" wires with 175/70 R13 Michelin's Larry On Apr 15, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello ... > > ok... for the group, will 5 1/2 rims fit on a square wheel arch > car?.... > > more specifically with 175/70 13s? > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Apr 15 04:31:49 2008 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:31:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay In-Reply-To: <003d01c89ed4$ce76d9d0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> References: <003d01c89ed4$ce76d9d0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> Message-ID: Bill, I rolled the edges and I didn't put that in my last email. Larry On Apr 15, 2008, at 4:43 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > Bill, > > 5 1/2 J rims fit OK with 165/70/13 tyres With 175s you may need to > fold the > inner edge of the lip of the wheel arch back , or "ease" the wheel > arch out > a fraction with a baseball bat. Fitting a Panhard rod would also help > locate the axle and prevent the tyre wall rubbing on hard cornering. > > Guy > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+guy.weller=tiscali.co.uk at autox.team.net]On > Behalf > Of Bill L > Sent: 15 April 2008 05:40 > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rims FS on Fleabay > > Hello ... > > ok... for the group, will 5 1/2 rims fit on a square wheel arch > car?.... > > more specifically with 175/70 13s? > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 > Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. > You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: > 14/04/2008 > 09:26 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1377 - Release Date: > 14/04/2008 > 09:26 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Declare your Independence, Bring your MG to MG 2008 Valley Forge, PA June 26-29, 2008 http://mg2008.com Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Apr 15 04:53:09 2008 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:53:09 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ Message-ID: Assuming an original, you've got the (H) or "high compression" 8.8-1 1275 which likes 98RON if I recall the factory manual accurately? Now the mfg. was conservative on this, considering he was warrantying the motor. Here in the US octane is shown as pump octane or PON. Usually, 3 numbers are added to get a "ballpark" RON from PON. So even our Citgo 93PON (96RON) comes up a bit short but as I said, BMC was conservativve when it came to recommended octanes. British and Europeans have 98RON available at the pump I believe. And probably Austraiia as well? What say you, Colin?? CapBob From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Apr 15 06:12:43 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Steering column Message-ID: <2E312B933C24423F90C9DB7BF7D4ED29@Home> I can now report on what is under the plastic surround on my steering column - a crash box, nothing that comes apart. I can also report that, if you are really stupid about how you cut the plastic, you will slice your thumb. So, does anyone know how to take a '74 steering column apart? The one adjusting nut I found does not move far enough. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 06:32:43 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:32:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: 70 to 105 hours per week for several months to roll this thing out of the hanger??!!! How long does it take you to get your car out of the garage? ;) Seriously though ... congrats! ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ron Soave What I've been doing for the last several months, 70 to 105 hours per week - rollout of the Embraer Phenom 300 on Saturday at Gaviao Peixoto, Brazil. The real work is still to come during the certification campaign. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TDBkL5-6Vw Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 15 07:01:30 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:01:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: I heard on the news this morning that they found, in Mexico, what might be the 3rd largest oil reserve. Isn't one of the supply/demand constraints that we don't have adequate refining capabilities?? ----Original Message Follows---- Jim, I also understand that when oil went over $90/bbl was when it became very profitable to extract the oil from the Canadian Shale deposits... -- Dave G. KK7SS From tinydog at snet.net Tue Apr 15 07:12:42 2008 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:12:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <041520081312.14153.4804A9CA000A02B50000374922230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBFC7C90A9F979B@att.net> tinydog sez: Nor enough Expeditions and Tahoes. -------------- Original message from "Robert Duquette" : -------------- ...we don't have adequate refining capabilities?? From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 15 07:14:44 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:14:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> Tim, I noticed that too, but figured they would have reversed them eventually as the wheel wont clear. They probably got around to it when they replaced the shocks. ;-) I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but restored in my mind, something like "returned to original specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. Sorry need coffee. But I'm FINALLY commuting in a proper car. Peter C. == At 06:59 PM 4/14/2008, Timothy H. Collins wrote: >A neighbor passed along his copy of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car to >me - March issue. It contains a story about a restored Bugeye. The >owner did most of the work himself and it turned out to be very nice. >On page 68, however, I noticed that he assembled the tie rod ends >with the nut facing the ground. To do that he must have reversed the >steering arms so the taper would have the right orientation to match >the "Up-side-down" rod end. The rod end is bent at an odd angle. I >think that's wrong or at least I've never seen that done before. The >British Leyland shop manual does show the rod end in the >up-side-down" orientation but that's just an illustration. Or does >this work OK and if so, what's the reason for doing so? > > >Tim Collins From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 07:15:35 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804150615p11713975qf32812f4ef9d91ff@mail.gmail.com> On 4/15/08, Robert Duquette wrote: > > I heard on the news this morning that they found, in Mexico, what might be > the 3rd largest oil reserve. > http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news2.13s.html Isn't one of the supply/demand constraints that we don't have adequate > refining capabilities?? Yup. Dave G wrote: > Jim, > > > I also understand that when oil went over $90/bbl was when it became very > profitable to extract the oil from the Canadian Shale deposits... Wellll..... It became profitable, yes, but "very" would be a stretch considering what has to be done to get the oil out of the shale and considering the amounts of oil that can be extracted in this manner. Recall, however, that the price of oil going up is what made this technology profitable so it is still relatively expensive to do. Cheers!! Jim From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Apr 15 07:20:51 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <1261963119.20080415062051@pacifier.com> Hello Robert, YES, lack of refining capacity if one of the Major reasons for high gasoling prices.. (of course also world demand,. but.. ) Before "consolidation" there was an excess of refinery capacity. most refineries ran at around 80% to 85% capacity. .. that is not profitable ENOUGH for the major oils, so as the merged they closed refineries.. now most of them in the US are running at or near 100%... ... so when one of them has an accident, or closes for mantainance, prices SPIKE.. .. and we still haven't replaced the those lost due to KATRINA... .. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Corrupt REALITY.SYS: Reboot Universe (Y/n)? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Apr 15 08:25:32 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <1261963119.20080415062051@pacifier.com> References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com> <1261963119.20080415062051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <727B9E9F-F4D3-451E-96EC-51FEFA1494D0@comcast.net> .. which is bad for prices *but* those plants were old and were a safety nightmare, they kept catching on fire, things like that.. lester \ On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Robert, > snip > .. and we still haven't replaced > the those lost due to KATRINA... .. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 15 08:26:29 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:26:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu>, <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> How about "Preserved" ?? On 15 Apr 2008 at 8:14, Peter C wrote: >> I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as >> among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. >> etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but >> restored in my mind, something like "returned to original >> specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, >> reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 15 08:31:14 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> <480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415092853.03924ba8@nosimport.com> Ya mean like fruit jelly? Has the taste of the original...... with "sugar" added. I like it. Peter C == At 09:26 AM 4/15/2008, Dave G. wrote: >How about "Preserved" ?? > >On 15 Apr 2008 at 8:14, Peter C wrote: > > >> I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as > >> among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. > >> etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but > >> restored in my mind, something like "returned to original > >> specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, > >> reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. > > >-- >Dave G. KK7SS >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA >"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. >But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 15 08:45:08 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:45:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <727B9E9F-F4D3-451E-96EC-51FEFA1494D0@comcast.net> References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com>, <1261963119.20080415062051@pacifier.com>, <727B9E9F-F4D3-451E-96EC-51FEFA1494D0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48045D04.13774.1CC442@dmg.bossig.com> No argument there... But, as a suggestion from an ignorakmus, how about using some of those 'obscene' profits to build new, safe refineries on the site(s) of the old?? And many thanks to those who replied to my question about the grade of fuel to use in my 12CCDAH.. It seems to boil down to this... If the engine doesn't ping and doesn't lack "zip", then I'm OK with the middle (89) grade... I *do* use about 1/2 oz of Marvel Mystery Oil per gallon... I used to do that with my old Piper Cub and The Taylocraft when I still had them..... (before the divorce!) On 15 Apr 2008 at 9:25, Lester wrote:\ >> .. which is bad for prices *but* those plants were old and were a >> safety nightmare, they kept catching on fire, things like that.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From dmg at bossig.com Tue Apr 15 08:51:37 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:51:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline/Diesel $ In-Reply-To: <48045D04.13774.1CC442@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4803C7ED.2215.2F18500@dmg.bossig.com>, <727B9E9F-F4D3-451E-96EC-51FEFA1494D0@comcast.net>, <48045D04.13774.1CC442@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <48045E89.13203.22B30E@dmg.bossig.com> "ignorakmus" which of course should be spelt "dumb"!! Sorry for the typo's but fingers do not always obey brain --- just like kids ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Apr 15 09:45:00 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 08:45:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Good question Peter, It always turns into a long story explaining that my car is restored to it's 1967 configuration and that is the year it received all the modifications even though I have owned it since 1960. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Peter C wrote: > I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as > among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. > etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but > restored in my mind, something like "returned to original > specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, > reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Apr 15 09:48:12 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:48:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> <480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804150848j4de82ae0x64a21a3bd6170aa9@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, we had this same discussion on one of my antique motorcycle lists a few years ago. The concensus term was "rebuilt" vs "restored". Cheers!! Jim On 4/15/08, Dave G. wrote: > > How about "Preserved" ?? > > On 15 Apr 2008 at 8:14, Peter C wrote: > > >> I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as > >> among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. > >> etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but > >> restored in my mind, something like "returned to original > >> specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, > >> reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 15 10:27:22 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:27:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise Message-ID: <000601c89f15$99626070$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> $4.05 for premium(91) at the local 76 station Sunday. Only 5.1 gallons of it, but still................ I took Bugsy on a 100mi local club drive into the Sacramento delta this last Sunday and it was fun. A little slow for me, but the weather was perfect and it was quite scenic. The ferry operator was all smiles as he loaded 7 LBCs onto the little delta ferry. If a local contractor in his biga$$ truck hadn't been at the head of the waiting line, we'd have gotten all 8 on a ferry that usually carries 6 cars. As is a big Healey had to wait for the next trip. The sharp ramp angle caused the Big Healey to knock a wire off the fuel pump and led to FIVE guys pushing it up to the top of the levee for repairs. Now I have a new take on the "big" in big Healey. As our line of LBCs (4 Triumphs, 2 big Healeys, 1 Marina, and Bugsy) wove through the delta, we passed a line of Harley guys out for a cruise. One of the oncoming riders extended his arm as our lines passed and then he pointed straight at Bugsy as we got even with each other and gave me a big nod. Must have been a closet Sprite lover. A man of fine taste no doubt. Glen Byrns From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Apr 15 11:27:51 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise In-Reply-To: <000601c89f15$99626070$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c89f15$99626070$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <16dc4a3d857a3e87aacc66a.20080415102751.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Glen Byrns > As our line of LBCs (4 Triumphs, 2 big Healeys, 1 Marina, and Bugsy) wove > through the delta, we passed a line of Harley guys out for a cruise. One > of > the oncoming riders extended his arm as our lines passed and then he > pointed > straight at Bugsy as we got even with each other and gave me a big nod. > Must > have been a closet Sprite lover. A man of fine taste no doubt. > > Glen Byrns He probably knows as I do as a Bugeye/Harley owner both vehicles are ancient technology harboring a mutual respect. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 15 11:39:35 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:39:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Motors Message-ID: <008301c89f1f$ac5010b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> OK, I am not a Moss Motors basher. I appreciate the amount of stuff they carry, etc. Sometimes, however, I just have to squawk. Today I got an email from them advertising their annual upholstery sale and a few new items. One of the new items was an "MGB Cruise Control Kit". One glance confirmed that it is the same AudioVox CCS-100 kit I have on my Midget. I clicked the link to find some justification for their claim of "Engineered especially for use with HIF, HS and Zenith carbs", to find that they are charging over 2.5 times as much as I paid for mine, they are including the magnetic pulse generator which restricted mine to only working under 60mph (great feature!) and they have tweaked the freely downloadable installation instructions to show their ways of connecting the actuator cable to an MGB carb. Interestingly enough, their method for connecting to an SU carb is exactly the way I wound up doing mine... Were they watching me??? I also noted that they did not mention the possible need to implement a vacuum tank. Maybe (I doubt it) the MGB doesn't need it, but I KNOW my 1275 does unless you are not anticipating any hills. This kit is readily available for $90, but they are asking $249!!! Thanks for letting me vent ;-) David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 15 12:45:31 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415092853.03924ba8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <946148.21966.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " Has the taste of the original...... with "sugar" added. I like it." I also have no problem with a little hot-rodding / resto-modding / performance enhancing on our cars. This is especially true if the car needed lots of work and would have been lost to the tin worms shortly anyway. Hard to beat a combination that is essentially the best of both worlds - classic looks and more modern performance. - David between 0000-00-00 and 9999-99-99 From millerls at ado13.com Tue Apr 15 12:54:30 2008 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:54:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu><7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com><480458A5.24901.BAF36@dmg.bossig.com> <43840a7e0804150848j4de82ae0x64a21a3bd6170aa9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000e01c89f2a$23adba90$53997e4c@HP> Around here we call it "fixin it up" Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: "spridgets Digest" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine > FWIW, we had this same discussion on one of my antique motorcycle lists a > few years ago. The concensus term was "rebuilt" vs "restored". > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 4/15/08, Dave G. wrote: >> >> How about "Preserved" ?? >> >> On 15 Apr 2008 at 8:14, Peter C wrote: >> >> >> I also have a problem with calling the car "restored" as >> >> among other things, the wheels are wire, has disc brakes, 1275, etc. >> >> etc.. Do we need another word? It's handsome, and a good job, but >> >> restored in my mind, something like "returned to original >> >> specification" or something. Reconstructed, resurrected, >> >> reincarnated, whatever, but not restored. >> >> >> -- >> Dave G. KK7SS >> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA >> "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. >> But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > For info and registration... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Apr 15 12:59:53 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:59:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Paul A Fund ... A lirttle update & clarification References: Message-ID: <000d01c89f2a$e414a460$85206f47@DBKF4T81> Although I do not have access to all the details, it looks as if Paul will be receiving a fair amount of assistance (from the pharmaceutical companies?) with the cost of two of the chemotherapy agents he is, or will be, taking. This is very good news in that these drugs are hugely expensive (think thousands of dollars) and the burden of having to make the co-pay for them out-of-pocket would have been crushing. Those donations that have been coming in are still important in that they will help defray other expenses already incurred and those that will be associated with the next round of treatment. As I understand it, this next round will likely involve bone marrow transplants or procedures with stem cells or other things that cannot be cheap. Thanks so very much, Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" . The medical bills are only part of the problem as Paul has been > unable spend much time keeping his business going, thus reducing his > income. > If any member would like to contribute to a friend in need, please feel > free > to donate to the Paul A Fund through Peter Schull. Instructions from Pete > are: > > "Checks are preferable and can be made out to: Paul A Fund > > The checks can be sent to me: > > Peter Shull > 1405 NE Village Street > Fairview OR 97024 > > Alternatively, they can be sent to: > > Julie A Miler > US Bank, Cherry Park Branch > 2541 SW Cherry Park Road > Troutdale OR 97060 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Apr 15 14:32:16 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:32:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Motors In-Reply-To: <008301c89f1f$ac5010b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: While you're at it, look at the seats in the Bugeye. Then try to order black on black...it's not even a picture of Moss seat covers. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Apr 15 16:01:07 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:01:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Motors References: <008301c89f1f$ac5010b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <00b001c89f44$37661a90$6501a8c0@shop> David and the rest of you: As a Dist. for Moss I not only make MY "beefs" to them but also YOUR's by forwarding the ORIGINAL post to one of the bosses @ Moss. It does add up to a goodly # of mails 'cause I also watch/partake on 10 OTHER than SPM Lists. There HAVE been "good" things happen in a pretty goodly of instances and product(s) have changed/altered so I think it is worth the effort. The reason for this note is that occasionally the reply IS humorous as in this case, David !! Here is what the reply is: Looks like he caught us. Let him know to check behind the left hand side of his work bench for the pin-hole micro camera. Ed From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Apr 15 15:13:35 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:13:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Exhaust Manifold Message-ID: <9480B4D2C3C04F07A43284FB58CE1261@HomeComputer> I am installing a used 1275 in my Sprite and the exhaust manifold is missing the three studs. What size are they (Diameter & Length)? I know one end is course thread and one end is fine thread. Also, should I chase out the course threads in the manifold with a tap or will this cause the threads to be too loose and the studs will fall out? Thanks, Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (Hopefully to be on the road again after +10 years) From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Apr 15 15:39:28 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:39:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Exhaust Manifold Message-ID: <24992197.1208295568768.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> ---- Dean Swanson wrote: > I am installing a used 1275 in my Sprite and the exhaust manifold is missing > the three studs. Dean, Since it is off the car, just drill the blind holes out and use stainless steel bolts and nuts. Much easier to deal with than the studs when they get rusted up and snap off when you need to undo them down the road... I have done this to my cars for years now when I had the manifold off. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 15 15:51:37 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:51:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Badge Bar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48052369.4040804@comcast.net> Kitterer Bob wrote: > Anyone know where there is a badge bar for a bugeye, with or with out > fog lamp brackets? > I bought one a few years back from Triple C motors. TripleC.com I think. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 15 15:55:22 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:55:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4805244A.1060303@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > But I'm FINALLY commuting in a proper car. > > And the Mini was not proper? or did you get it back on the road? I didn't know it was down. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 15 15:58:18 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:58:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <4805244A.1060303@comcast.net> References: <6o4ucu$2qddkb@email.mtu.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080415080259.03b42178@nosimport.com> <4805244A.1060303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415165617.03985d78@nosimport.com> Last snowfall, I hope, was Saturday. Enough to wash the salt off. No one's been riding around here until now. First +55 day since October. Record snow. Mini's out and chargin around!!! Peter = At 04:55 PM 4/15/2008, Frank Clarici wrote: >Peter C wrote: >> But I'm FINALLY commuting in a proper car. >> >> >And the Mini was not proper? or did you get it back on the road? I >didn't know it was down. > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Apr 15 15:59:40 2008 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:59:40 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Prices Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/2008 9:49:42 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Isn't one of the supply/demand constraints that we don't have adequate refining capabilities?? That's what Rush says. I'm sure Hillbama says its greedy oil executives. They seem to be able to produce plenty of $4 stuff. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) From jfisher3 at fast.net Tue Apr 15 17:17:41 2008 From: jfisher3 at fast.net (John Fisher) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:17:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] AMSOIL's recommendation for flat tappet engines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003501c89f4e$e83fa610$b8bef230$@net> https://www.amsoil.com/dealer/techservicesbulletin/TSB_Flat_Tappet.pdf The ongoing discussion of lubrication in flat tappet engines made a reference to Amsoil's Harley oil, which possibly refers to Amsoil MCV a motorcycle specific 20W-50 lubricant with additives for wet clutch operation not needed in automobile applications. Amsoil has 5 specific recommendations for flat tappet engines, including 2 20W-50 lubricants, but the "Harley oil" is not one of them. Amsoil's "marketing methods" may be a reference to the fact that they are still loyal to their multi level marketing networks which originated in 1972. AmZoil (the original name) was the first company to market synthetic automotive motor oil, years before Mobil Oil developed Mobil 1. A new company which was selling "artificial oil" then had difficulty promoting it's products without massive advertising funds. Instead, Amzoil recruited dealers who showed their customers that synthetic oil was not only as good as, but far superior to petroleum oil. The promotion of 1 year or 25,000 (yes thousand) mile oil changes was and still is considered lunacy by most people, but the fact remains that Amsoil is the only manufacturer which will put this interval (and more) on the label of some of their products. Mobil tried and failed. Alan Amatuzio and Amsoil still remain faithful to their dealer network who sold the products to their friends and neighbors. Amsoil has developed an extensive line of lubricants for the automotive, industrial and commercial markets, and is constantly testing and having their products tested against the competition. Almost every time it proves superior. Some boutique lubricants may win occasionally, but Amsoil has a consistently high quality product line. Thanks for listening, I really was not trying for a commercial. John Fisher HAN5l18264 From nory1 at adelphia.net Tue Apr 15 19:14:49 2008 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:14:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: <4395677.1208229797426.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> References: <4395677.1208229797426.JavaMail.root@wmvirt6> Message-ID: <03963020-CFC5-4E10-842C-20003A596749@adelphia.net> And it would fly (-: On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:23 PM, wrote: > You'd think for a brazilion bucks it would have a complete paint > job... > > Ed From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Apr 15 21:50:18 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 22:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> Message-ID: <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> So does the SILENCE mean that nobody out here has an answer to my question or ????? Surely I am not the only one that has encountered this problem. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:44 PM To: 'Spridget List' Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question Lets see if I can word this right to possibly get an answer to the problem J New roller ball bearings (thrust type) installed on the front hubs. Both sides were installed 68 miles ago (i.e. races seated right and the spacer inserted correctly. Now the drivers side still is the way it should be but the passenger side has play in the hub. Checked that the nut was snugged down and all looks correct. Any ideas on the problem and how to correct it? Have heard before about shims being necessary sometimes but dont understand that concept.Ideas and no I dont want to change to tapered roller bearings if at all possible. Oh yea..the car is a 1960 Bugeye (aka Iris) Thanks Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1378 - Release Date: 4/15/2008 9:12 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 16 06:36:11 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:36:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> Message-ID: <007101c89fbe$7479a170$0201a8c0@midget> > So does the SILENCE mean that nobody out here has an answer to my question > or ????? Surely I am not the only one that has encountered this problem. Leo, The silence means that, since you don't want to fart around with shims and you don't want to convert to tapered roller bearings, you didn't leave much for us to say. However, here is a dissertation from FR Millmore, another Spridgeter: "They are angular contact ball bearings. Not the same as rollers. Names matter. They are to be preloaded, the correct amount. Like the book said. (Unipart book quoted) The spacer is a selective match to the hub it came in. Manufacturing tolerances are the reason for the selection; after that there are no tolerances. Bits mixed up must be similarly matched. IF the spacer is such as to leave play in the correct bearings, then it should be shortened the requisite amount. IF the spacer is such as to give excessive preload, then shims should be fitted to bring it right. The preload is slight, on the order of .001-.002". I do not know the OE spec, but this will work fine and give no problem. There should be NO play. Play lets the bearings beat themselves to death, making more play. Play locally overloads the bearing, as the entire load is on two balls at the top or bottom in each bearing, depending on what the loads are at the moment. This causes extreme loads in the cage, which causes them to break - the common failure mode for the original bearings. If the OE brass cage bearings are readjusted for preload after initial wear-in, they last forever. Play knocks back the brake pads, giving lousy brakes. Pay attention. The easiest way to measure preload is to fit a shim on the spacer, and measure endfloat, then reassemble with correct or no shims. EG; If with a .005 measuring shim there is .003-.004 endfloat with thin oil only on the bearings, you are good. Remove the shim, pack the bearings with grease, and reassemble. If with an .010 shim there is .006 endfloat, fit a .002-.003 shim. ETC. Be very careful about tightening the nut. Excessive force to line up the split pin hole will collapse the spacer, leading to excessive preload. It is best to measure endfloat with the pin hole just a bit short of lined up - how much short depends on how thick the measuring shim is, and how much endfloat you have - finesse! One trick is to use shims on the small end of the spindle, line the splitpin hole up, mark the nut postion, do your measurements, then put the measuring shim between the bearing and the outer retaining washer. That keeps the stack height the same = no guessing." From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 07:33:35 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:33:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> Isn't there a nice video by the University Motors Guy, John Somethingorother, that shows the MGB hub assembly. Does the same general technique apply to Spridgets? I can't remember. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 07:36:54 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:36:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804160636v660ff625p7a1f2673b6d42b5f@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RJYIXZtnIiw&feature=related Even if it isn't the same, Mr. Twist's videos are good viewing. Cheers, Derf From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 16 07:45:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:45:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Prices In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, up here where we 'export' oil, we had some stations running out of gas a few? weeks ago, gas is between 1.07 and 1.17 per litre for regular. I think that's between $4.05 and $4.43 per US gallon. Of course I picked a car that wants premium gas ... http://ottawagasprices.com/ ----Original Message Follows---- Isn't one of the supply/demand constraints that we don't have adequate refining capabilities?? That's what Rush says. I'm sure Hillbama says its greedy oil executives. They seem to be able to produce plenty of $4 stuff. Regards, Robert B. Houston From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 16 08:00:55 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:00:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net><000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Isn't there a nice video by the University Motors Guy, John > Somethingorother, that shows the MGB hub assembly. Does the same > general technique apply to Spridgets? I can't remember. IIRC, the early MGB was quite similar to the Spridget wheel bearings. Interesting that the Spridget manuals never discuss the concept of shimming, but the MGB manuals do... Might want to glom onto an MGB manual and check out the procedure. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 16 08:02:10 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:02:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080415165617.03985d78@nosimport.com> Message-ID: We're finally getting the weather too. I usually take the Midget out April 1st and I'm usually the first person that I see top down. This year, I saw a Miata and a Mustang top down and about in the residual salt and I don't have the Midget out yet. We have now had the requisite cleansing rain and I just placed the call to the insurance company to put the full coverage on for tomorrow. :) RD ----Original Message Follows---- From: Peter C Last snowfall, I hope, was Saturday. Enough to wash the salt off. No one's been riding around here until now. First +55 day since October. Record snow. Mini's out and chargin around!!! Peter = At 04:55 PM 4/15/2008, Frank Clarici wrote: >Peter C wrote: >> But I'm FINALLY commuting in a proper car. >> >> >And the Mini was not proper? or did you get it back on the road? I >didn't know it was down. > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Apr 16 08:24:56 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> FWIW, we had this same discussion on one of my antique motorcycle >> lists a >> few years ago. The concensus term was "rebuilt" vs "restored". >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim You wouldn't be on the Indian list would you Jim? We had the exact same discussion and consensus. I also like "fixin it up"! Given both my bike (41 Indian) and auto (79 Midg) are intended to be ridden/driven often and rather abusively (like I stole 'em may be appropriate) I might add, doing what it takes to make certain they stop and go as I expect is essential - often after a sacrifice to the 'concours original' gods. Then there /is/ the money factor.... -m From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 16 08:45:43 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:45:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine References: Message-ID: <00cb01c89fd0$8ce37530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I also like "fixin it up"! Given both my bike (41 Indian) and auto (79 > Midg) are intended to be ridden/driven often and rather abusively > (like I stole 'em may be appropriate) I might add, doing what it takes > to make certain they stop and go as I expect is essential - often > after a sacrifice to the 'concours original' gods. Then there /is/ the > money factor.... And the ultimate insult of KNOWING that this piece came on the car from the factory, even though the concours folks assure you that it is incorrect. If the car can't be driven, is it still a car? As Barney Gaylord has been heard to say, the best cure for a concours car is a gravel road at high speed. David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Wed Apr 16 09:11:38 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:11:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> HOLD IT! There is no similarity between and MGB and a Spridget front wheel hub and bearing beyond the number of bearings, a seal, and the fact that they both have 4 studs. COMPLETELY different original design. DO NOT apply one repair procedure to the other. Leo, your problem could be a worn hub where the ID especially for the outer bearing is worn. Using the Unipart/Moss supplied bearing kit with the narrow-width outer race exacerbates the problem. I have 20 + hubs here with that same problem, and we are working on a solution. (we actually have the solution, just trying to figure if anyone would pay for it) Did you use the narrow-width outer race bearing? If so, a different outer bearing may solve it. Peter C ====== At 09:00 AM 4/16/2008, David Lieb wrote: > > Isn't there a nice video by the University Motors Guy, John > > Somethingorother, that shows the MGB hub assembly. Does the same > > general technique apply to Spridgets? I can't remember. > >IIRC, the early MGB was quite similar to the Spridget wheel bearings. >Interesting that the Spridget manuals never discuss the concept of shimming, >but the MGB manuals do... Might want to glom onto an MGB manual and check >out the procedure. >David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 16 09:22:05 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:22:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine References: <00cb01c89fd0$8ce37530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <0aea01c89fd5$a15e4760$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine As Barney Gaylord has been heard to say, the best cure for a concours car is a gravel road at high speed. David Lieb _______________________________________________ Eww, I like that one. LAD From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 09:37:28 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:37:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804160837l3478f578g85ab12821566b05a@mail.gmail.com> OK, I sit corrected. I thought that maybe if it applied to Spridgets, Mr. Twist would have stated that in his video. Still a good video to watch, even if you don't have an MGB at present. From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Apr 16 09:53:02 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:53:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 3 Sprite Jubilee 41508 Message-ID: <00f001c89fd9$f41fbf20$2f01a8c0@dell1> ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Moses To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:26 PM Subject: 3 Sprite Jubilee 41508 Deadline April 16, 2008. Hotel Carlisle & Embers Convention Center will offer our Sprite Jubilee special room rate of $89 through April 16, 2008. Final orders for Sprite Jubilee logo embroidered clothing will be taken through April 16, 2008. SPRITE JUBILEE contact information: dr.moses at verizon.net & 717-534-2525 / 877-748-3165. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 16 09:57:51 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <00d701c89fda$a04baca0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > HOLD IT! There is no similarity between and MGB and a Spridget > front wheel hub and bearing beyond the number of bearings, a seal, > and the fact that they both have 4 studs. COMPLETELY different > original design. DO NOT apply one repair procedure to the other. OK, I guess I DON'T recall correctly. Believe Peter, he knows. David Lieb From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 10:01:31 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Guys - I have a customer who asked this question of our tech line. They didn't know, so they asked me as the resident Midget owner in hopes I could find out and answer the customer. I in turn am asking my expert resource - the list! Here's the question: On the Flasher unit for Midgets (sorry, don't have a year), there are three terminals in a !_! configuration - picture the exclamation points as the upright terminal blades. The three are labeled L, P, and X. Does anybody know what each of them actually connect to? Thanks, - David --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 10:09:17 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:09:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804160909q1bb157d4ydb7b24d1be7c492b@mail.gmail.com> Stolen from some other site: #49 is the 12V power. #31 is a Ground. #49a goes to the signal switch. You can buy a generic flasher at an auto parts store. These are thermal-operated and have 3 terminals marked: X Power in. L Load (signal switch) P Pilot (for dash indicator) Some only have 2 terminals, omitting the "P". From peter at nosimport.com Wed Apr 16 10:10:45 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:10:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the Switch P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition controlled supply.) Peter C. ======================= At 11:01 AM 4/16/2008, David Booker wrote: >Guys - I have a customer who asked this question of our tech >line. They didn't know, so they asked me as the resident Midget >owner in hopes I could find out and answer the customer. I in turn >am asking my expert resource - the list! > > Here's the question: On the Flasher unit for Midgets (sorry, > don't have a year), there are three terminals in a !_! > configuration - picture the exclamation points as the upright > terminal blades. The three are labeled L, P, and X. Does anybody > know what each of them actually connect to? > > Thanks, > - David From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Apr 16 10:43:54 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:43:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <3546051B-5F6A-4E8C-A2B6-AEBF6A27B9B7@comcast.net> ... and "E" is for?? ;-) Even more than... lester On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Peter C wrote: > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the > Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) > > Peter C. > ======================= > At 11:01 AM 4/16/2008, David Booker wrote: > >> Guys - I have a customer who asked this question of our tech >> line. They didn't know, so they asked me as the resident Midget >> owner in hopes I could find out and answer the customer. I in turn >> am asking my expert resource - the list! >> >> Here's the question: On the Flasher unit for Midgets (sorry, >> don't have a year), there are three terminals in a !_! >> configuration - picture the exclamation points as the upright >> terminal blades. The three are labeled L, P, and X. Does anybody >> know what each of them actually connect to? >> >> Thanks, From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 16 10:44:32 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:44:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate Message-ID: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600 rebate. If we spend that money at Wal-Mart,the money will go to China. If we spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will go to Japan, if we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to buy prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in the US. Thank you for your help. I'm nothing if not a responsible conveyor of information....LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 16 10:47:14 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:47:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com><822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0b2901c89fe1$867435c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "David Booker" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the Switch P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition controlled supply.) Peter C. ======================= Putting a little something in the coffee, Peter? LAD From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Apr 16 10:55:06 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:55:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <0b2901c89fe1$867435c0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com><822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> <0b2901c89fe1$867435c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: .. and of course the rest of the day will be spent with me humming "L is for the way you look at me.." lester On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter C" > To: "David Booker" ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question > > > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the > Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) > > Peter C. > ======================= > Putting a little something in the coffee, Peter? > > LAD From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 11:06:02 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question - Thanks much! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <932359.44425.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Everybody - Thanks for all the imaginative answers - I knew I could count on this bunch. - David Lester wrote: .. and of course the rest of the day will be spent with me humming "L is for the way you look at me.." lester On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter C" > To: "David Booker" ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question > > > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the > Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) > > Peter C. > ======================= > Putting a little something in the coffee, Peter? > > LAD You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 11:15:45 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question answered - Thanks! In-Reply-To: <3546051B-5F6A-4E8C-A2B6-AEBF6A27B9B7@comcast.net> Message-ID: <277894.80573.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Everybody - Thanks for all the imaginative answers - I knew I could count on this bunch. - David Lester wrote: ... and "E" is for?? ;-) Even more than... lester On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Peter C wrote: > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the > Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) > > Peter C. > ======================= > At 11:01 AM 4/16/2008, David Booker wrote: > >> Guys - I have a customer who asked this question of our tech >> line. They didn't know, so they asked me as the resident Midget >> owner in hopes I could find out and answer the customer. I in turn >> am asking my expert resource - the list! >> >> Here's the question: On the Flasher unit for Midgets (sorry, >> don't have a year), there are three terminals in a !_! >> configuration - picture the exclamation points as the upright >> terminal blades. The three are labeled L, P, and X. Does anybody >> know what each of them actually connect to? >> >> Thanks, You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From hal at katemuir.com Wed Apr 16 11:29:03 2008 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate In-Reply-To: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: I didn't know Ols Speckled Hen and Newcastle Brown were made in the US. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:45 AM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to buy prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in the US. Thank you for your help. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 11:31:37 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:31:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate In-Reply-To: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: So who's supplying the hookers for LOTO, so we can help out the economy while we are there??? LOL Just Ed On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600 rebate. > If we spend that money at Wal-Mart,the money will go to China. If we > spend > it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will > go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, > Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will go to Japan, > if > we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help > the > American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to > buy > prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in > the US. Thank you for your help. > > > I'm nothing if not a responsible conveyor of information....LAD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Wed Apr 16 12:33:49 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:33:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com><822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> <0b2901c89fe1$867435c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <02cf01c89ff0$6bf40220$6501a8c0@shop> <> Well, maybe be Larry BUT it would have been OK because WHEN PPP penned his missive << Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question>> it was 6:10PM in UK!!!!! DL From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Apr 16 11:58:57 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:58:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question - Thanks much! References: <932359.44425.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <019b01c89feb$8b3f46d0$8500a8c0@CT> Also, a STANT 550 will work as a replacement and is available everywhere but it is labeled different. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Booker To: Lester Cc: Spridget List Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question - Thanks much! Everybody - Thanks for all the imaginative answers - I knew I could count on this bunch. - David Lester wrote: .. and of course the rest of the day will be spent with me humming "L is for the way you look at me.." lester On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter C" > To: "David Booker" ; "Spridget List" > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flasher question > > > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the > Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) > > Peter C. > ======================= > Putting a little something in the coffee, Peter? > > LAD You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as mark at nashvilletn.org http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 16 12:16:02 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:16:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > L, P, and X. X from fuse block L to switch P to dash light http://books.google.com/books?id=b55_ZAs7ljYC&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=+L,+P,+a nd+X.+turn+signal+relay&source=web&ots=JN_PCiKg5D&sig=COXuA84XVk-1zAZvivc0tT 8Y6ig&hl=en#PPA119,M1 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 12:18:25 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:18:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> <822506.54241.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416110759.036bbf70@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804161118t648b9d4bt114743153ac2c8c@mail.gmail.com> On 4/16/08, Peter C wrote: > > L is for the way you .... light the lamp.... Actually from the Switch > P is for the way you tell it's on... Pilot lamp (on dash) > X is very very, extraordinary, (it's the power feed from a ignition > controlled supply.) Put them all together they spell "LPX" (and not MOTHER)..... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 16 13:03:27 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c89ff4$8e32f540$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> My choice would be prostitutes, and Chinese products.......either way; when you're done, you know you've gotten a good screwing ;) Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:32 PM To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate So who's supplying the hookers for LOTO, so we can help out the economy while we are there??? LOL Just Ed On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600 rebate. > If we spend that money at Wal-Mart,the money will go to China. If we > spend > it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it will > go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, > Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will go to Japan, > if > we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help > the > American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to > buy > prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in > the US. Thank you for your help. > > > I'm nothing if not a responsible conveyor of information....LAD > _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Wed Apr 16 15:07:34 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:07:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine References: <00cb01c89fd0$8ce37530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <03a701c8a005$e77cde20$6501a8c0@shop> <> And IIRC David, he is close to the end of resto #4 with 500K miles?? And if uou folks havem't read his odessy trip of 19,000 miles, you SHOULD!! http://mgaguru.com/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 16 14:25:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:25:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine References: <00cb01c89fd0$8ce37530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <03a701c8a005$e77cde20$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: <012601c8a000$09e6bd60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > < to say, the best cure for a concours car is a gravel road at high speed. > > And IIRC David, he is close to the end of resto #4 with 500K miles?? > And if you folks havem't read his odessy trip of 19,000 miles, you > SHOULD!! > http://mgaguru.com/ Naw, he hasn't even hit 400,000 yet and 150,000 of that was on it before he bought it. What can I say about a guy who drives from Chicago to Alaska by way of Texas? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Apr 16 15:02:05 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:02:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rebuilt vs restored Re: Bugeye in Magazine In-Reply-To: <012601c8a000$09e6bd60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <00cb01c89fd0$8ce37530$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <03a701c8a005$e77cde20$6501a8c0@shop> <012601c8a000$09e6bd60$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4806694D.5030308@frontiernet.net> He sounds like the type of person that I need to meet. That's pretty much the way I travel. Kate > > > What can I say about a guy who drives from Chicago to Alaska by > way of Texas? From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Wed Apr 16 15:16:19 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:16:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate Message-ID: <26500756.1208380579165.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> My choice would be prostitutes, and Chinese products.......either way; when you're done, you know you've gotten a good screwing ;) You know, of course, that you never have sex with a Chinese prostitute... If you do, you're horny again in an hour! Ed From grday at btinternet.com Wed Apr 16 16:41:48 2008 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:41:48 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate References: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <004a01c8a013$0e7b3f00$3f108656@tairswork> This was the next message in my intray........ Hi, i am here sitting in the internet caffe. Found your email and decided to write. I am 25 y.o.girl. I have a picture if you want. No need to reply here as this is not may email. Write me at bamber175 at rtutdirect.com LOL Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate > So who's supplying the hookers for LOTO, so we can help out the economy > while we are there??? > > LOL > > > Just Ed > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Larry Daniels > wrote: > >> The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600 rebate. >> If we spend that money at Wal-Mart,the money will go to China. If we >> spend >> it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it >> will >> go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico, >> Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will go to Japan, >> if >> we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help >> the >> American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to >> buy >> prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced in >> the US. Thank you for your help. >> >> >> I'm nothing if not a responsible conveyor of information....LAD >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Apr 16 19:19:48 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:19:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4806A5B4.4030002@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> > X from fuse block > L to switch > P to dash light > And just to confuse some of you, the original Lucas flasher unit had B L P and B was for Battery (same as X) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 20:30:47 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 19:30:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Race Bugeye For Sale Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804161930j1672d10bx62420beab74759fc@mail.gmail.com> http://www.sierraclassics.com/detail-1958-austin-bug_eye_sprite-race_car-2114710.html From shop at justbrits.com Wed Apr 16 21:48:01 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:48:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Race Bugeye For Sale References: <2ad6c6b10804161930j1672d10bx62420beab74759fc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007e01c8a03d$d7b56e20$6501a8c0@shop> Sure like to see the inside of the boot for a look at the top surface, Herb!! FINE "looking" body!!! From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Apr 16 21:12:01 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Flasher question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <459762.99579.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > X Nevermind...too obvious... Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 16 21:15:04 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:15:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate In-Reply-To: <004a01c8a013$0e7b3f00$3f108656@tairswork> References: <0b1c01c89fe1$26325570$6401a8c0@Larry> <004a01c8a013$0e7b3f00$3f108656@tairswork> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804162015m24c853bfm2d6b708a50433d9@mail.gmail.com> Guy, So I emailed her. She's right! She does have a picture. It's you and her and Max Mosely... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Guy R Day wrote: > This was the next message in my intray........ > > > Hi, > i am here sitting in the internet caffe. Found your email and > decided to write. I am 25 y.o.girl. > I have a picture if you want. No need to reply here as > this is not may email. Write me at bamber175 at rtutdirect.com > > > LOL > > Guy R Day > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Larry Daniels" > Cc: "Spridgets List" > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Your $600 rebate > > > > So who's supplying the hookers for LOTO, so we can help out the economy > > while we are there??? > > > > LOL > > > > > > Just Ed > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:44 AM, Larry Daniels > > > wrote: > > > >> The federal government is sending each and every one of us a $600 > rebate. > >> If we spend that money at Wal-Mart,the money will go to China. If we > >> spend > >> it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs, if we purchase a computer it > >> will > >> go to India, if we purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to > Mexico, > >> Honduras, and Guatemala, if we purchase a good car it will go to > Japan, > >> if > >> we purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help > >> the > >> American economy. The only way to keep that money here at home is to > >> buy > >> prostitutes and beer, since these are the only products still produced > in > >> the US. Thank you for your help. > >> > >> > >> I'm nothing if not a responsible conveyor of information....LAD > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Apr 16 21:34:40 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net> <000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net> <5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com> <00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <007001c8a03b$f9c34de0$ed49e9a0$@net> WOW...Now we are communicating!!! Everyone's replies have been read and saved and this weekend after a crawfish boil I am going to tear into the front hubs and check everything out and see where we go from there. Who knows....Tapered roller bearings might be in the future. Thanks Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter C Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 10:12 AM To: David Lieb; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question HOLD IT! There is no similarity between and MGB and a Spridget front wheel hub and bearing beyond the number of bearings, a seal, and the fact that they both have 4 studs. COMPLETELY different original design. DO NOT apply one repair procedure to the other. Leo, your problem could be a worn hub where the ID especially for the outer bearing is worn. Using the Unipart/Moss supplied bearing kit with the narrow-width outer race exacerbates the problem. I have 20 + hubs here with that same problem, and we are working on a solution. (we actually have the solution, just trying to figure if anyone would pay for it) Did you use the narrow-width outer race bearing? If so, a different outer bearing may solve it. Peter C ====== At 09:00 AM 4/16/2008, David Lieb wrote: > > Isn't there a nice video by the University Motors Guy, John > > Somethingorother, that shows the MGB hub assembly. Does the same > > general technique apply to Spridgets? I can't remember. > >IIRC, the early MGB was quite similar to the Spridget wheel bearings. >Interesting that the Spridget manuals never discuss the concept of shimming, >but the MGB manuals do... Might want to glom onto an MGB manual and check >out the procedure. >David Lieb You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 9:34 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 9:34 AM From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 03:34:30 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 05:34:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) Message-ID: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> List, I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. Enjoy, Linda http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image From miniac7 at aol.com Thu Apr 17 06:24:58 2008 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:24:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering?it being the 50th year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridgeteers Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) List, I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. Enjoy, Linda http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Apr 17 06:34:55 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:34:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: The answer is rigt there in the ad: "gave British Sports Cars in San Luis Obispo California 'carte blanche' to restore it" ----Original Message Follows---- From: miniac7 at aol.com To: grunthaner at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:24:58 -0400 Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering?it being the 50th year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridgeteers Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) List, I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. Enjoy, Linda http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From miniac7 at aol.com Thu Apr 17 07:23:53 2008 From: miniac7 at aol.com (miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:23:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8CA6EA56A5C617E-1DC-1BA0@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Just like when I was reading school books, I jonly looked at the pictures. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 8:34 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) The answer is rigt there in the ad: "gave British Sports Cars in San Luis Obispo California 'carte blanche' to restore it" ----Original Message Follows---- From: miniac7 at aol.com To: grunthaner at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:24:58 -0400 Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering?it being the 50th year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridgeteers Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) List, I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. Enjoy, Linda http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 17 07:39:16 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:39:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) References: <8CA6EA56A5C617E-1DC-1BA0@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <013d01c8a090$6e99ff20$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Just like when I was reading school books, I jonly looked at the pictures. But you bought Playboy for the articles, right? Lorry Denials From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 07:43:03 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:43:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So, if you buy a 55 Chevy, spend an assload of money on a Z06 engine and transmission, pay to have it installed in the car, upgraded to disc brakes, install a Grant steering wheel, and pay give it a plain paint job, THAT is a "high dollar restoration"? On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:34 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants > $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. > Enjoy, > Linda > > > http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 17 08:14:27 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:14:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <014301c8a095$5937cea0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > So, if you buy a 55 Chevy, spend an assload of money on a Z06 engine and > transmission, pay to have it installed in the car, upgraded to disc > brakes, > install a Grant steering wheel, and pay give it a plain paint job, THAT is > a > "high dollar restoration"? In a sense, it amounts to buying on speculation. If you did all that because you wanted a 55 Chevy with a Z06 engine, etc, great. Drive it, enjoy it, sell it when you are too old to appreciate it. If you did all that and then wanted to get your money back (or even make a profit), lotsa luck! Especially with Spridgets, the only reliable way to get your money back is to enjoy the heck out of the car for as long as possible. David Lieb From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Apr 17 09:36:05 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:36:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise In-Reply-To: <16dc4a3d857a3e87aacc66a.20080415102751.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <000601c89f15$99626070$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <16dc4a3d857a3e87aacc66a.20080415102751.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Heritage Springer???? Isn't that like Mazda putting lever shocks on a Miata to make it "more sporty?" Call me when you trade up to a Duo-Glide, the real Austin-Healey of American motorcycling! ;-) JohnD 53 MGTD 63 VW 63 TR3B for beater 67 VW hot rod 67 Frankensprite 68 Midget "Works" racer 72 BMW 750/5 "Chrome-Dome" 97 Kawasaki KLR 650 thumper "Ugly Girl with a Dirty Mind" -----Original Message----- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com [mailto:rrengineer at dslextreme.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 1:28 PM To: Glen Byrns Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise He probably knows as I do as a Bugeye/Harley owner both vehicles are ancient technology harboring a mutual respect. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Apr 17 09:46:56 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:46:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question In-Reply-To: <00d701c89fda$a04baca0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <002501c89dd9$6375aea0$2a610be0$@net><000001c89f74$fd496ed0$f7dc4c70$@net><5f00d9910804160633o58887050wac2ad4d13e1b32c5@mail.gmail.com><00c301c89fca$4ded8100$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov><7.0.1.0.2.20080416100408.036c8ab8@nosimport.com> <00d701c89fda$a04baca0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: The John Twist video is somewhat helpful IF you are switching your Spridget to tapered roller bearings. But, David, we already know you've got that corner covered! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:58 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearing question > HOLD IT! There is no similarity between and MGB and a Spridget > front wheel hub and bearing beyond the number of bearings, a seal, > and the fact that they both have 4 studs. COMPLETELY different > original design. DO NOT apply one repair procedure to the other. OK, I guess I DON'T recall correctly. Believe Peter, he knows. David Lieb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 09:53:37 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:53:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny leak Message-ID: The engine in the car is running fine. I was planning on driving it tomorrow, but when I went out to see if I needed to boost the battery a bit, I noticed a puddle of oil under the car. I checked the crankcase, and it is full, so it leaves the tranny as the suspect. This had been rebuilt, so I want to ask, what would the "most logical" point of leakage be, on something like this? Though I am assuming the best course of action is to just remove the entire unit and after setting it level, fill the transmission, and watch what happens from there. I know it isn't much of a question, but damn, I just feel so frustrated, after the thing worked so well last weekend. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Apr 17 09:59:42 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:59:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise In-Reply-To: References: <000601c89f15$99626070$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <16dc4a3d857a3e87aacc66a.20080415102751.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00a601c8a0a4$1120c4a0$33624de0$@com> My '77 Superglide reminds me where the "vintage" is in the bike/rider equation. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John G Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:36 AM To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com; Glen Byrns Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] gas prices/Delta cruise Heritage Springer???? Isn't that like Mazda putting lever shocks on a Miata to make it "more sporty?" Call me when you trade up to a Duo-Glide, the real Austin-Healey of American motorcycling! ;-) JohnD 53 MGTD 63 VW 63 TR3B for beater 67 VW hot rod 67 Frankensprite 68 Midget "Works" racer 72 BMW 750/5 "Chrome-Dome" 97 Kawasaki KLR 650 thumper "Ugly Girl with a Dirty Mind" From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Apr 17 10:07:36 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:07:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale Message-ID: <480775C8.2070402@wi.net> Anyone on the list? http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 Dave 59 :{) Burlington WI From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 10:09:12 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:09:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye on San Francisco Prninsula - $15K/offer Message-ID: <29945316.1208448552333.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Not a bad deal for the right buyer - Nice Bugeye on San Francisco Prninsula - $15K/offer http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/car/643954205.html Cheers, Rick Feibusch coordinator, Brisbane/Sierra Point British Car Meet The British Car Network Venice, CA From peter at nosimport.com Thu Apr 17 10:37:29 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale In-Reply-To: <480775C8.2070402@wi.net> References: <480775C8.2070402@wi.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080417113632.039e8a68@nosimport.com> Merit cars is in NY. Someone just buy the valve cover.... I gotta know WTH those things are. Peter' == At 11:07 AM 4/17/2008, David Woerpel wrote: >Anyone on the list? > >http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 > >Dave > >59 :{) >Burlington WI From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 17 10:58:35 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:58:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale References: <480775C8.2070402@wi.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20080417113632.039e8a68@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0dc301c8a0ac$46f68800$6401a8c0@Larry> My money is on breathers. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "David Woerpel" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE for sale Merit cars is in NY. Someone just buy the valve cover.... I gotta know WTH those things are. Peter' == At 11:07 AM 4/17/2008, David Woerpel wrote: >Anyone on the list? > >http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 > >Dave > >59 :{) >Burlington WI _______________________________________________ From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 11:04:44 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:04:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Which Slave Cylinder Message-ID: I am putting a 1275 engine and trans into a '62 mkII Sprite. Will the '58-'66 slave cylinder work or am I better off using the '67-'74 slave cylinder? I know which ever I use I will probably have to fiddle with the slave cylinder rod length. Thanks, Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Thu Apr 17 11:07:14 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:07:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale Message-ID: <8729500.1208452034426.JavaMail.root@wmvirt8> Someone just buy the valve cover.... I gotta know WTH those things are. Peter That's a 21 gigawatt flux capacitor, can't you tell? This car is only worth what he's asking in the future!!! Montana Bob (just back from the future) From peter at nosimport.com Thu Apr 17 11:23:52 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:23:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Which Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080417122121.03906ec0@nosimport.com> Dean, If you don't want to change the piping to the slave, stick with the early. The 1275 slave requires a rubber hose and a 1/4" pipe feeding it... and an adapter somewhere in between master and slave. Peter C. === At 12:04 PM 4/17/2008, Dean Swanson wrote: >I am putting a 1275 engine and trans into a '62 mkII Sprite. > >Will the '58-'66 slave cylinder work or am I better off using the '67-'74 >slave cylinder? > >I know which ever I use I will probably have to fiddle with the slave >cylinder rod length. > >Thanks, > >Dean Swanson > >'62 A.H. Sprite mkII From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Apr 17 11:31:27 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Canada Car Question Message-ID: <014001c8a0b0$de271290$8500a8c0@CT> Hopefully some of our northern friends can help me. I am looking at a 92 XJS that was originally delivered to Windsor. It is now in Tennessee but is in an area that doesn't require emission testing. The requirements in my area is that it has a catalytic converter, and a fuel fill restrictor, as if you could buy leaded fuel anymore. It will then have to meet a tail pipe sniffer test. Does anybody know if cars delivered to Canada in 92 would/should meet the same US emission standards? I would hate to buy a car that I can't get inspected locally. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Apr 17 11:54:03 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:54:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale Message-ID: <28898927.1154891208454843659.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web17-z02> not bad- What is that thing on the valve cover? thanks Chris 1966 MKIII Brookfield, WI ---- David Woerpel wrote: > Anyone on the list? > > http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 > > Dave > > 59 :{) > Burlington WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Apr 17 12:21:26 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Horler Book FS on Fleabay Message-ID: <9108a1864ea18cb4adff2a.20080417112126.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> !7 more minutes for a Horler book on Ebay. It's hard cover and only going for 20 bucks! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Thu Apr 17 12:23:58 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale Message-ID: <1395183.1208456638540.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I think that it looks like an expensive rust-bucket. Are restorable Bugeyes really going for that much money now days? Scary. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com >Sent: Apr 17, 2008 1:54 PM >To: David Woerpel >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE for sale > >not bad- > >What is that thing on the valve cover? > >thanks >Chris > >1966 MKIII >Brookfield, WI > >---- David Woerpel wrote: >> Anyone on the list? >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 >> >> Dave >> >> 59 :{) >> Burlington WI ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Apr 17 12:27:27 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Horler Book FS on Fleabay Message-ID: Oops. Here is the link. http://tinyurl.com/3ppfee Mike From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Apr 17 12:40:17 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:40:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale In-Reply-To: <28898927.1154891208454843659.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web17-z02> Message-ID: > thing on the valve cover? J.C. Whitney oil breathers. They look funny, but he might not leak oil. BZ From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:14:51 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:14:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale In-Reply-To: <28898927.1154891208454843659.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web17-z02> References: <28898927.1154891208454843659.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web17-z02> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804171214x6f197d04t2ea709b9baff4882@mail.gmail.com> Yep, breathers. Put a set on my '58 Vette in '66. Herb On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM, wrote: > not bad- > > What is that thing on the valve cover? > > thanks > Chris > > 1966 MKIII > Brookfield, WI > > ---- David Woerpel wrote: > > Anyone on the list? > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/MeritCars/1959AHBugeyeRunningDriving7950 > > > > Dave > > > > 59 :{) > > Burlington WI > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 13:23:37 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:23:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804171223p1485b40die3b377662d38a0b7@mail.gmail.com> Should have sent it to Frank's friends overseas. Would have been a lot less costly to restore! Herb From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Apr 17 18:12:55 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:12:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors Message-ID: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home> I have the guts of three Midget distributors lying on my table. Two of the three guts are different. Only one has a working vacuum advance, but that one has a 1/8" hole punched out of the side. I will make one out of the best of the pieces. 1. Am I better off to patch the hole with epoxy, or move the vacuum advance to another body? If I move it, how do I get it reset properly? 2. I have a 13 degree centrifugal advance with weaker springs and an 18 degree advance with stronger springs. Which is better and why? 3. The manual says I should have a maximum advance in the mid 20 degrees. Why are these marked less? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Apr 17 18:20:56 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home> References: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home> Message-ID: <862951176.20080417172056@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, oh boy, oh boy, one I can answer... 3) .. you have two different advances, mechanical, that is marked on the weights, and vacuum. your MAX advance is the TOTAL of the two. 2) i don't think there is a way to know the answer to your question without putting it on a dyno and trying it out. the factory recommendation is right on the money IF your engine is unmodified.. 1).. .. ????? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now From dmeadow at juno.com Thu Apr 17 18:25:34 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny leak Message-ID: <20080417.192534.3984.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Brad, Most logical culprits are the front plate and the rear oil seal. You can tell which one by where the leak is. If it is coming out of the bell housing, then it has to do with the plate that goes around the input shaft. If it is coming out the rear, it is the oil seal in the rear. The rear oil seal can be replaced easily assuming you have an access hole cut in the bottom of the transmission tunnel, which the later cars do. If you don't, you can cut a hole, just be careful. From there, you just remove the drive shaft and replace the seal. There is a possibility that the bearing surface around the driveshaft is very worn and there is a large gap. If that is the case, then you've got more problems that just the seal. If you don't have a hole or don't want to cut one, then you'll have to pull the tranny. If the leaking has to do with the front plate, then you'll have to pull the tranny. David On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:53:37 -0500 "Brad Fornal" writes: > The engine in the car is running fine. I was planning on driving it > tomorrow, but when I went out to see if I needed to boost the > battery a bit, > I noticed a puddle of oil under the car. I checked the crankcase, > and it is > full, so it leaves the tranny as the suspect. This had been rebuilt, > so I > want to ask, what would the "most logical" point of leakage be, on > something > like this? Though I am assuming the best course of action is to just > remove > the entire unit and after setting it level, fill the transmission, > and watch > what happens from there. > I know it isn't much of a question, but damn, I just feel so > frustrated, > after the thing worked so well last weekend. > > Brad From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 17 18:29:28 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:29:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4807EB68.9090403@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > The tranny had been rebuilt, so I > want to ask, what would the "most logical" point of leakage be, on something > like this? If it looks like it's coming from the bell housing, it's the *so called* rear main lack of a seal. PCV keeps the pressure down in the crankcase thus keeps the oil blowing out of the rear seal down to a minimum. Tranny leaks could come from the side, front covers or tail shaft -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Apr 17 18:29:40 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:29:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tranny leak In-Reply-To: <4807EB68.9090403@comcast.net> References: <4807EB68.9090403@comcast.net> Message-ID: It's coming out of the tunnel area, so it must be the rear seal. Thank you for all the suggestions. Brad On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > The tranny had been rebuilt, so I > > want to ask, what would the "most logical" point of leakage be, on > > something > > like this? > > > If it looks like it's coming from the bell housing, it's the *so called* > rear main lack of a seal. > PCV keeps the pressure down in the crankcase thus keeps the oil blowing > out of the rear seal down to a minimum. > Tranny leaks could come from the side, front covers or tail shaft > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Apr 17 18:31:57 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:31:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors References: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home> Message-ID: <0e5a01c8a0eb$9c821a70$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:12 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors I have the guts of three Midget distributors lying on my table. Two of the three guts are different. Only one has a working vacuum advance, but that one has a 1/8" hole punched out of the side. I will make one out of the best of the pieces. 1. Am I better off to patch the hole with epoxy, or move the vacuum advance to another body? If I move it, how do I get it reset properly? 2. I have a 13 degree centrifugal advance with weaker springs and an 18 degree advance with stronger springs. Which is better and why? 3. The manual says I should have a maximum advance in the mid 20 degrees. Why are these marked less? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ Michael, I think I would put the whole works in a box and send it to Jeff at Advanced Distributors. Tell him what you have so far as a motor and mods and let him work his magic. No matter what you come up with, it will be a blind guess at what will work best for you. This may be one of those times when spending a few bucks for a pro's service is the cheapest and best route in the long run. Larry From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 17 18:38:14 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:38:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE for sale In-Reply-To: <1395183.1208456638540.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1395183.1208456638540.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4807ED76.8010208@comcast.net> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > I think that it looks like an expensive rust-bucket. Are restorable Bugeyes really going for that much money now days? > But if you give it a paint job, it's worth 30,000 bucks! It has to be, I just read it on the internet ;) Having restored a Sprite a year to damn good condition, at least as good as some of the ones I see come up for sale, I can not see how anyone can spend 42K on a Sprite unless you pay someone for everything including flipping thru the catalogs for you. A realistic cost if you *DO IT YOURSELF* is 5k, I know because I have 4k into the 58 last year and close to 5k into the 67 this year. And that includes the price I paid for the cars. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Apr 17 18:40:05 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Which Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4807EDE5.3090108@comcast.net> Dean Swanson wrote: > I am putting a 1275 engine and trans into a '62 mkII Sprite. > > Will the '58-'66 slave cylinder work or am I better off using the '67-'74 > slave cylinder? > Like Peter said, either one works fine but the later needs plumbing and a bracket on the frame. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Apr 17 20:21:25 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:21:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: <0e5a01c8a0eb$9c821a70$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home> <0e5a01c8a0eb$9c821a70$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: >This may be one of those times when spending a few bucks for a pro's >service is the cheapest and best route in the long run. This is undoubtedly true, but all I will learn as a result is that Spridgets are expensive. I already learned that. Meanwhile, I am trying to figure out how this machine works. I am not a mechanic, and have not worked on any car since 1970. I am trying to learn by taking things apart and looking at them (with the help of a *very* experienced tutor). It's an expensive way, I agree, but education never was cheap. Once this car is on the road, I will be building an engine and 5-speed transmission (that will take a lot more learning!). So it is not really necessary that any particular part of the engine be "best" for my car. I will do that on a tricked-out engine with a lot of new parts. The goal right now is to get it on the road before the snow comes. The entire front end will be redone by tomorrow evening. Then we move to the back, where the brakes have been deactivated with a plug in the brake line. I can't guess why this seemed to be the best solution to anything, except it was cheap. It is clear from the condition of the under side of the car that the DPO stopped by running into things, so the brakes really didn't matter much, anyway. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From shop at justbrits.com Thu Apr 17 22:06:34 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:06:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors References: <82311948BDE247A298A4D7E5B8AEFEE1@Home><0e5a01c8a0eb$9c821a70$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <078d01c8a109$97a17e60$6501a8c0@shop> <> Mike, that is only SOMEWHAT true. In your current case, Jeff would return the parts for 2 UN-re-built AND the PROPERLY re-built unit that WILL make the motor run CORRECTLY. You "education" may STILL move forward in that you have a REAL, WORKING dizzy to COMPARE to the parts ones. See if you can actually re-build one of the parts one to close to the newly RE-BUILT one!!! Then AFTER you have a properly RUNNING motor, PULL Jeff's Unit and install the one YOU re-built. Various tests will SHOW you the differences. 'Course I have only been doing this sort of thing a tad over 4 decades so I must not know of what I type. Ed Please visit my site at: www.justbrits.com From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 17 21:19:27 2008 From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:19:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: British Bash Message-ID: <002601c8a103$02a264b0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca> British Bash ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Burckle To: Bash Group 1 Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:39 AM Subject: British Bash The 24th annual British Bash is coming June 6 & 7th! This plus the sunny weather, top down weather, driving weather is a big reason to get your car out and running... to sign up for Pre-Registration which ends in just 17 days! Pre-Registration BONUS ends soon! Don't miss your chance to save up to 30% on your registration by entering now! If you pre register you also receive a Dash Plaque, this is the ONLY way to get one! No waiting in a registration line, drive in and enjoy the show, VIP service! Register NOW online at www.BritishBash.com Featured Marque This years Featured Marque is Healey, featuring Austin Healey's, Jensen Healey's, Nash Healey and the Original Healey brand that started it all. Show within a Show: As a huge success the Bash last year featured it's first Show within a Show, with the gathering of the North American Spitfire Squadron. Due to the overwhelming success, this year the Jaguar Drivers Club Area 51 2008 Jaguar Concours will be held at this years Bash. So as an added bonus you get a show within a show! Don't sit on the side lines and let another year pass you by! Come support the British Bash, remember this benefits St. Joseph's Children's home and last year we raised over $4,000 for St. Joe's and the Children! Help us top it this year! For more info visit the website at www.BritishBash.com or contact Craig Holmes at: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net . . . . From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Thu Apr 17 21:25:35 2008 From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:25:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] British Bash Message-ID: <003d01c8a103$de1633f0$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca> British Bash ----- Original Message ----- From: Adam Burckle To: Bash Group 1 Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:39 AM Subject: British Bash The 24th annual British Bash is coming June 6 & 7th! This plus the sunny weather, top down weather, driving weather is a big reason to get your car out and running... to sign up for Pre-Registration which ends in just 17 days! Pre-Registration BONUS ends soon! Don't miss your chance to save up to 30% on your registration by entering now! If you pre register you also receive a Dash Plaque, this is the ONLY way to get one! No waiting in a registration line, drive in and enjoy the show, VIP service! Register NOW online at www.BritishBash.com Featured Marque This years Featured Marque is Healey, featuring Austin Healey's, Jensen Healey's, Nash Healey and the Original Healey brand that started it all. Show within a Show: As a huge success the Bash last year featured it's first Show within a Show, with the gathering of the North American Spitfire Squadron. Due to the overwhelming success, this year the Jaguar Drivers Club Area 51 2008 Jaguar Concours will be held at this years Bash. So as an added bonus you get a show within a show! Don't sit on the side lines and let another year pass you by! Come support the British Bash, remember this benefits St. Joseph's Children's home and last year we raised over $4,000 for St. Joe's and the Children! Help us top it this year! For more info visit the website at www.BritishBash.com or contact Craig Holmes at: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net . . . . From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Apr 17 22:58:11 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:58:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Items for Sale on eBay Message-ID: <380-22008451845811312@earthlink.net> Barry Barnes wrote: "YES, I do something with websites  I've created several hundred webpages, created and manage a dozen websites, and created and manage six webrings. Having spent 41 years I the computer field..." If that were so, then you would be aware: That cutting and pasting the long string of a web address is chancy at best. That when sending a web address, the recipient is better served when the sender uses http://tinyurl.com/ That when directing someone to an eBay auction, the recipient is also better served when the sender uses http://tinyurl.com/ taking them to the correct page, or gives the recipient the Item Number and directs them to copy and paste the short number only in the "Search" box at http://www.ebay.com/. Life really can be made so much simpler for people. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 05:44:43 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:44:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804180444g7e25aaa1i5154a013df049f68@mail.gmail.com> 42K was in is his dreams : ) LOL Lin On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:24 AM, wrote: > Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering it being the 50th > year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the > right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridgeteers > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am > Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > > List, > I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants > $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. > Enjoy, > Linda > http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com > http://www.team.net/archive > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > ------------------------------ > Get the MapQuest Toolbar, > Maps, Traffic, Directions & More! From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Apr 18 05:52:26 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:52:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues Message-ID: <041820081152.9963.48088B7A000A7A6E000026EB2215575114000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Reviving a 74 midgit. I last posted about leaking antifreeze from the radiator cap of my expansion tank after a ride. I replaced the cap with a 13 Lbs cap and today after a 27 mile 50 minute ride to and from work i had antifreeze coming out of the overflow tube on the expansion tank. I also have a broken temp gauge to make things more interesting. I checked the overflow when things cooled down and it is half full but the radiator is down about 4". What is causing this? My plan is to replace the thermostat and the badly corroded looking crossflow pipe on the bottom of the radiator. is there anything else i am missing or should try while i am at it? There does seem to be a small oozing of oil from the head gasket but not enough to reduce oil pressure or volume. any ideas? thanks ryan From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net Fri Apr 18 07:34:05 2008 From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:34:05 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox noise - fixed Message-ID: <19052321.1208525645932.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Folks, You may remember I heard a funny whistling/gargling noise noise coming from location of the radio. So I was thinking it was the gearbox, seeing that is directly below the radio. Well, I disconnected the fan belt and the noise went away. Replaced the alternator, put belt back on and the noise has not come back. Yeah! 'Course now that I have said that, I'd better place an order for a water pump. Cheers, Adrian, 1500 Midget From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 07:43:22 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:43:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430804180444g7e25aaa1i5154a013df049f68@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804170234j7d384ca3l812f5ba40a708d7c@mail.gmail.com> <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <205cef430804180444g7e25aaa1i5154a013df049f68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Did I hear you say that there must be a catch Will you walk away from a fool and his money If you want it, here it is come and get it But you better hurry cause it's going fast Badfinger, "Come and Get It" On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > 42K was in is his dreams : ) > LOL > Lin > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:24 AM, wrote: > > > Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering it being the 50th > > year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the > > right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. > > > > Howard Collins > > Virginia Beach, VA. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linda Grunthaner > > To: Spridgeteers > > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am > > Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > > > > List, > > I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants > > $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. > > Enjoy, > > Linda > > > http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > ------------------------------ > > Get the MapQuest Toolbar< > http://www.mapquest.com/toolbar?NCID=mpqmap00030000000003>, > > Maps, Traffic, Directions & More! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net Fri Apr 18 08:09:16 2008 From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:09:16 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! Message-ID: <25927381.1208527756257.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Folks, Just yesterday I passed a lady cradling her infant in her arms. Nothing wrong with that but she was driving a big SUV at the time. Which got me thinking that I need to tune up this MG in case I need to get out of her way in a hurry one day. This MG has got zero acceleration. Sure, you can get up to 70 mph no problem, but it takes a while. I have got the ZS set up nicely, I believe. The spark plugs are a clean, very light chocolate brown. The dashpot oil is always up to the mark. Usually get about 23 mpg. So I think I will take a look at the ignition side of things. I've got the Pertronix with the Lucas Sports coil, so I think I'll experiment with the spark plug gap (upping it from 25 to 35 thou) but I have a feeling that is a waste of time. Meanwhile, has anybody got any thoughts on the ignition timing - I've set it to the book with a timing light but I'm thinking it may need fine tuning. Is it just a matter of experimenting or is there a better way. For instance, let me quote from the Moss Motors TR3 catalog: "Setting the ignition timing after a tune-up is simply done by adjusting the distributor for maximum R.P.M. and then retarding the timing to give a drop of 100 R.P.M in engine speed." Great, eh! Anyways, my MG runs great. starts first time, etc, but when you put the hoof down, nothing happens except a leisurely increase in speed. I mean, at least my Toyota makes a big screaming noise when I do that. Cheers, Adrian From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 18 08:12:56 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:12:56 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Someone once took a guess at the value of my Midget, and said $35,000. I said that I would sell it to him for that price, but a more realistic price would be $3500, and for $3500, it wasn't for sale. :) RD ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Brad Fornal" Did I hear you say that there must be a catch Will you walk away from a fool and his money If you want it, here it is come and get it But you better hurry cause it's going fast Badfinger, "Come and Get It" On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > 42K was in is his dreams : ) > LOL > Lin > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:24 AM, wrote: > > > Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering it being the 50th > > year, there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the > > right buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. > > > > Howard Collins > > Virginia Beach, VA. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linda Grunthaner > > To: Spridgeteers > > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am > > Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > > > > List, > > I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants > > $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. > > Enjoy, > > Linda > > > http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.asp#first_image > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > ------------------------------ > > Get the MapQuest Toolbar< > http://www.mapquest.com/toolbar?NCID=mpqmap00030000000003>, > > Maps, Traffic, Directions & More! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 18 08:32:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:32:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thoughts on the Dizzy/Advamce thingy Message-ID: <48084E97.14692.2E4352@dmg.bossig.com> I am about to replace the old plug.coil leads on the beast. I pulled the lead of the Dizzy, which I think is a dual point Mallory and, once again, wondered about the lack of a vacuum advance/retard mechanism. If I am right, the drop in vacuum when you put your foot down, results in the vacuum unit letting the dizzy timing retard to help the engine get some 'oomph'! SO where does my 'Oomph' come from when there is no vacuum unit and I put my foot down?? Or doesn't it matter! Does it mean I have to limit my maximum advance at high revs? Just wondering.... I'm not a Lead-foot but I do like to drive in a manner that doesn't betray my age -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 18 08:56:35 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:56:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: <078d01c8a109$97a17e60$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: I'm going to have to save this email so that I can quote ED ( out of context, of course ) with this, when it suits me! :) RD ----Original Message Follows---- From: I must not know of what I type. Ed From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 09:14:56 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:14:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues In-Reply-To: <041820081152.9963.48088B7A000A7A6E000026EB2215575114000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <041820081152.9963.48088B7A000A7A6E000026EB2215575114000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: You may consider replacing the water pump. I wonder if the impeller may have deteriorated, whilst the car was sitting. Brad On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:52 AM, wrote: > Reviving a 74 midgit. I last posted about leaking antifreeze from the > radiator cap of my expansion tank after a ride. I replaced the cap with a 13 > Lbs cap and today after a 27 mile 50 minute ride to and from work i had > antifreeze coming out of the overflow tube on the expansion tank. I also > have a broken temp gauge to make things more interesting. I checked the > overflow when things cooled down and it is half full but the radiator is > down about 4". What is causing this? My plan is to replace the thermostat > and the badly corroded looking crossflow pipe on the bottom of the radiator. > is there anything else i am missing or should try while i am at it? There > does seem to be a small oozing of oil from the head gasket but not enough to > reduce oil pressure or volume. > any ideas? > thanks > ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 09:31:38 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:31:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Distributors In-Reply-To: References: <078d01c8a109$97a17e60$6501a8c0@shop> Message-ID: Yeah, it's just the Miller Lite talkin'........ LOL On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > I'm going to have to save this email so that I can quote ED ( out of > context, of course ) with this, when it suits me! :) > > RD > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: > > I must not know of what I type. > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Apr 18 09:34:47 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:34:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is it 'leaking' coolant somewhere? My thought was that it might be a bad head gasket pressurizing the cooling system. < tempted to put in the "I know not of what I write" quote and sign this "ED" > RD ----Original Message Follows---- You may consider replacing the water pump. I wonder if the impeller may have deteriorated, whilst the car was sitting. Brad On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:52 AM, wrote: > Reviving a 74 midgit. I last posted about leaking antifreeze from the > radiator cap of my expansion tank after a ride. I replaced the cap with a 13 > Lbs cap and today after a 27 mile 50 minute ride to and from work i had > antifreeze coming out of the overflow tube on the expansion tank. I also > have a broken temp gauge to make things more interesting. I checked the > overflow when things cooled down and it is half full but the radiator is > down about 4". What is causing this? My plan is to replace the thermostat > and the badly corroded looking crossflow pipe on the bottom of the radiator. > is there anything else i am missing or should try while i am at it? There > does seem to be a small oozing of oil from the head gasket but not enough to > reduce oil pressure or volume. > any ideas? > thanks > ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 09:34:59 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:34:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! In-Reply-To: <25927381.1208527756257.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25927381.1208527756257.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Chances are you need to change the rear gear, as I don't think there is much more you can do. BUT, if you go to an earlier 4.22, you will lose your gas mileage. IF you wanna do that swap, let me know, I have a diff I'll trade ya!! Brad On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Adrian Jones wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Just yesterday I passed a lady cradling her infant in her arms. Nothing > wrong with that but she was driving a big SUV at the time. Which got me > thinking that I need to tune up this MG in case I need to get out of her way > in a hurry one day. This MG has got zero acceleration. Sure, you can get > up to 70 mph no problem, but it takes a while. > > I have got the ZS set up nicely, I believe. The spark plugs are a clean, > very light chocolate brown. The dashpot oil is always up to the mark. > Usually get about 23 mpg. So I think I will take a look at the ignition > side of things. I've got the Pertronix with the Lucas Sports coil, so I > think I'll experiment with the spark plug gap (upping it from 25 to 35 thou) > but I have a feeling that is a waste of time. > > Meanwhile, has anybody got any thoughts on the ignition timing - I've set > it to the book with a timing light but I'm thinking it may need fine tuning. > Is it just a matter of experimenting or is there a better way. For > instance, let me quote from the Moss Motors TR3 catalog: > > "Setting the ignition timing after a tune-up is simply done by adjusting > the distributor for maximum R.P.M. and then retarding the timing to give a > drop of 100 R.P.M in engine speed." > > Great, eh! > > Anyways, my MG runs great. starts first time, etc, but when you put the > hoof down, nothing happens except a leisurely increase in speed. I mean, at > least my Toyota makes a big screaming noise when I do that. > > Cheers, Adrian > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Apr 18 09:44:28 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:44:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues Message-ID: <041820081544.25252.4808C1DC0009AE6A000062A42215575114000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> I am not leaking anywhere but out of the outlet on the expansion tank. I am not seeing this on 10-15 minute rides just the longer ones. anything i should know about replacing the thermostat for the first tiime? -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Robert Duquette" > Is it 'leaking' coolant somewhere? > > My thought was that it might be a bad head gasket pressurizing the cooling > system. > > < tempted to put in the "I know not of what I write" quote and sign this > "ED" > > > RD > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > You may consider replacing the water pump. I wonder if the impeller may have > deteriorated, whilst the car was sitting. > > Brad > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:52 AM, wrote: > > > Reviving a 74 midgit. I last posted about leaking antifreeze from the > > radiator cap of my expansion tank after a ride. I replaced the cap with a > 13 > > Lbs cap and today after a 27 mile 50 minute ride to and from work i had > > antifreeze coming out of the overflow tube on the expansion tank. I also > > have a broken temp gauge to make things more interesting. I checked the > > overflow when things cooled down and it is half full but the radiator is > > down about 4". What is causing this? My plan is to replace the > thermostat > > and the badly corroded looking crossflow pipe on the bottom of the > radiator. > > is there anything else i am missing or should try while i am at it? > There > > does seem to be a small oozing of oil from the head gasket but not enough > to > > reduce oil pressure or volume. > > any ideas? > > thanks > > ryan > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 09:49:17 2008 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party Message-ID: <528589.82357.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What's wrong with this picture? This photo was taken last summer at the home of one of the College Professors I work with. Each of the people seen in the pool have at least a masters degree in some sort of discipline. The power cord was needed for the electric grill setup in the center of the pool. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Apr 18 13:14:54 2008 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:14:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what picture? Message-ID: <002101c8a188$7d1f0bf0$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 12:43:43 2008 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 11:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party In-Reply-To: <528589.82357.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <725750.95792.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sorry, Ed will post the picture. Thanks Ed! Red Midget wrote: What's wrong with this picture? This photo was taken last summer at the home of one of the College Professors I work with. Each of the people seen in the pool have at least a masters degree in some sort of discipline. The power cord was needed for the electric grill setup in the center of the pool. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. You are subscribed as redmidget72 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 18 12:44:25 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:44:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what picture? References: <002101c8a188$7d1f0bf0$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> Message-ID: <003801c8a184$3a4a6c10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> With a description like that, who needs a picture? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From p.herder at cox.net Fri Apr 18 15:11:08 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (p.herder at cox.net) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:11:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit Message-ID: <20080418171108.1OSJU.6178.imail@eastrmwml41> All, I would like to thank Frank Clarici for allowing me to visit yesterday where we told stories and I got educated on the finer points of getting started on the disassembling of my 66 Sprite. It was a BEAUTIFUL spring day and Frank took me on a drive with his Speedwell nosed Bugeye. Since I was visiting New Jersey from Kansas (my mother still lives here in the state I was born), Frank took me to the ocean so I could at least say I did make it there! It has been a while (30 plus years) since I have last seen the Atlantic Ocean. I would also like to thank Frank on pointing out that England was to the east! ;^) Home of our Sprites. It is good to put another face with the email messages I have been reading! Again, Thanks! Frank and hope to see you and a bunch of others here on the lists in LOTO! Paul Herder 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS (visiting NJ until tomorrow!) BTW Frank, This was the first time I was back on the I'net! Lousy connection here in the "sticks"! From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 17:00:44 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:00:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit In-Reply-To: <20080418171108.1OSJU.6178.imail@eastrmwml41> Message-ID: <223122.99048.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> But did you go to Surf Taco? If not, you must return... --- p.herder at cox.net wrote: > All, > > I would like to thank Frank Clarici for allowing me > to visit yesterday where we told stories and I got > educated on the finer points of getting started on > the disassembling of my 66 Sprite. > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From p.herder at cox.net Fri Apr 18 17:36:48 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (p.herder at cox.net) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:36:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit Message-ID: <20080418193648.KNHAO.7073.imail@eastrmwml41> We tried but it hadn't opened for the season, yet. : ( Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" > But did you go to Surf Taco? If not, you must > return... > > --- p.herder at cox.net wrote: > >> All, >> >> I would like to thank Frank Clarici for allowing me >> to visit yesterday where we told stories and I got >> educated on the finer points of getting started on >> the disassembling of my 66 Sprite. From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Apr 18 18:59:40 2008 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:59:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit References: <20080418171108.1OSJU.6178.imail@eastrmwml41> Message-ID: <005d01c8a1b8$a5883280$6401a8c0@personal> Well done Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit > All, > > I would like to thank Frank Clarici for allowing me to visit yesterday > where we told stories and I got educated on the finer points of getting > started on the disassembling of my 66 Sprite. > > It was a BEAUTIFUL spring day and Frank took me on a drive with his > Speedwell nosed Bugeye. Since I was visiting New Jersey from Kansas (my > mother still lives here in the state I was born), Frank took me to the > ocean so I could at least say I did make it there! It has been a while > (30 plus years) since I have last seen the Atlantic Ocean. > > I would also like to thank Frank on pointing out that England was to the > east! ;^) Home of our Sprites. > > It is good to put another face with the email messages I have been > reading! > > Again, Thanks! Frank and hope to see you and a bunch of others here on the > lists in LOTO! > > Paul Herder > 66 Sprite in Sedgwick, KS (visiting NJ until tomorrow!) > > BTW Frank, This was the first time I was back on the I'net! Lousy > connection here in the "sticks"! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.0/1381 - Release Date: 4/16/2008 > 9:34 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 18 19:10:37 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:10:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thoughts on the Dizzy/Advamce thingy In-Reply-To: <48084E97.14692.2E4352@dmg.bossig.com> References: <48084E97.14692.2E4352@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <4809468D.9040103@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > SO where does my 'Oomph' come from when there is no vacuum unit and I > put my foot down?? centrifical advance, it's done with weights on springs that expand when they go around faster thus advancing the center of the distributor which is mounted on a pivot. Even the vacuum advance units have weights, when you put your foot down, you make more vacuum and the tube sucks the diaphram thus moving the center of the dizzy. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 18 19:15:47 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:15:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit In-Reply-To: <20080418171108.1OSJU.6178.imail@eastrmwml41> References: <20080418171108.1OSJU.6178.imail@eastrmwml41> Message-ID: <480947C3.2040008@comcast.net> Yes it was nice to put another face to letters on the screen. And today Gary Merrick from CT stopped over on his way to a wedding. And since he lives near the coast, we didn't do the ocean tour today, we just went to eat. 2 faces in 2 days and all about Sprites. Life is good. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 19:20:26 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [midgetsprite] MG Mechanic in Maryland Message-ID: <533944.54831.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone on these lists able to help this fellow out????? --- On Fri, 4/18/08, jogul at comcast.net wrote: From: jogul at comcast.net Subject: [midgetsprite] MG Mechanic in Maryland To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, April 18, 2008, 1:25 PM Can anyone on the list recommend a good MG mechanic in Maryland? I live in Frederick. Thanks Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Calendar Yahoo! Groups-[ma_grp_160.gif] Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 18 19:28:30 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RIP Phantom Dan (NLBC) Message-ID: <186976.1909.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Speaking of Jersey, "Now you see him, now you don't - representing everyone from Northern New Jersey, Phantom Dan Federici", keyboard player for the E Street Band passed away today from melanoma. Here's a clip where he's invisible as usual, but it hard to imagine the sound without him: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jYJ2PLwlgpg Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Apr 18 19:56:21 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! Message-ID: <0dd301c8a1c0$90c4d2b0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> Adrian, The 1500's had a couple of different timing specs, depending on model year and emissions equipment. Many of the later ones had a vacuum retard (not advance), and the timing spec was 2* ATDC with the vac hose connected. Doing it by what your TR3 book says, you really need an adjustable timing light. I think full advance is in by 3000rpm (not sure). Anyway, by this method you should set the timing for 32* total advance. What year is your 1500, and do you have all (or any) of the smog equipment still in place? -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Adrian Jones [adrianjones747 at earthlink.net] Sent: 4/18/2008 10:09:16 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! Hi Folks, Just yesterday I passed a lady cradling her infant in her arms. Nothing wrong with that but she was driving a big SUV at the time. Which got me thinking that I need to tune up this MG in case I need to get out of her way in a hurry one day. This MG has got zero acceleration. Sure, you can get up to 70 mph no problem, but it takes a while. I have got the ZS set up nicely, I believe. The spark plugs are a clean, very light chocolate brown. The dashpot oil is always up to the mark. Usually get about 23 mpg. So I think I will take a look at the ignition side of things. I've got the Pertronix with the Lucas Sports coil, so I think I'll experiment with the spark plug gap (upping it from 25 to 35 thou) but I have a feeling that is a waste of time. Meanwhile, has anybody got any thoughts on the ignition timing - I've set it to the book with a timing light but I'm thinking it may need fine tuning. Is it just a matter of experimenting or is there a better way. For instance, let me quote from the Moss Motors TR3 catalog: "Setting the ignition timing after a tune-up is simply done by adjusting the distributor for maximum R.P.M. and then retarding the timing to give a drop of 100 R.P.M in engine speed." Great, eh! Anyways, my MG runs great. starts first time, etc, but when you put the hoof down, nothing happens except a leisurely increase in speed. I mean, at least my Toyota makes a big screaming noise when I do that. Cheers, Adrian From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Apr 18 20:03:37 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:03:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thoughts on the Dizzy/Advamce thingy Message-ID: <029b01c8a1c1$94ae2560$056a010a@mail2world.com> IIRC, that's not quite true, and it also depends on where your vac source comes from. with a ported (carb) vacuum, I think the highest vac is at part throtle, advancing the timing for a leaner burn and better fuel efficiency. with a manifold vac, highest vac is at a closed throttle, mostly for emissions. When you stomp on it, the vac is low, and only the weights are working, but you're also addling lots of air and fuel, giving zoom. This is why race dizzys (and the Cooper S dizzy) don't have a vac advance - no need for part throttle efficciency or emmisions compliance. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: 4/18/2008 9:10:37 PM To: dmg at bossig.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thoughts on the Dizzy/Advamce thingy Dave G. wrote: > SO where does my 'Oomph' come from when there is no vacuum unit and I > put my foot down?? centrifical advance, it's done with weights on springs that expand when they go around faster thus advancing the center of the distributor which is mounted on a pivot. Even the vacuum advance units have weights, when you put your foot down, you make more vacuum and the tube sucks the diaphram thus moving the center of the dizzy. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From dwramsey at att.net Fri Apr 18 20:08:16 2008 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:08:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Race Bugeye for sale Message-ID: <20080419030744.D2AEC18763F@autox.team.net> I know that car well. If you flew into Reno International airport in the last 20 years it was the one on the northwest end of the runway. It belonged to John Wassam of John's British Cars. John was the guy you took your bug-I to for a $50k "restoration" in Reno. As to the car itself, it may have been completive in the 70's, but I doubt it has been raced since then. I haven't seen John or the car in years, but would assume it was cobbled together from old parts lying around his shop and not built to win races today. That being said, please use extreme caution dealing with the lot selling this car. These guys make a living out of selling fake "restored" cars for Hot August Nights and make Cal Worthington in SoCal look like the saint of used car salesman. If I was looking for any classic type car this would be the last place I would look. So unless you want to pay top dollar for back lot car stay away. Ask me offline and I'll tell you how I really feel. Crash From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Apr 18 21:20:11 2008 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:20:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nj visit too Message-ID: <000f01c8a1cc$47037b70$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> Just wanted to add that a couple of weeks ago Frank invited me to his home and spent the afternoon fixing me up with parts and knowledge that I needed for my bugeye. Truly a class act, even if he is from Jersey :) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 05:14:21 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 06:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hey Colin..... Message-ID: Here is a rare item for you, and in Oz as well!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-MG-MIDGET-MOWOG-4-2-RACING-DIFF_W0QQitemZ330229477167QQihZ014QQcategoryZ33612QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem LOL -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Apr 19 07:11:13 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] web site cache Message-ID: <005d01c8a21e$d9ae0c40$8d0a24c0$@com> Hey youse guys, There's a site somewhere that caches websites. anyone remember what it is? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Apr 19 07:38:35 2008 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 8:38:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] web site cache Message-ID: <11201619.840241208612315245.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web21-z02> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php or http://tinyurl.com/f754 Chris ---- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Hey youse guys, > > > > There's a site somewhere that caches websites. anyone remember what it is? > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 10:13:08 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Timing MArks on Bottom of Engine 1098 Message-ID: <129891.30424.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm installing a remote timing mark pointer kit that Jeff from Advanced Distributors sells. So I need to align pointer with TDC Marks on bottom of engine. So how do I read the timing marks. L-R, R-L. And which one is TDC? Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Sat Apr 19 10:33:59 2008 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:33:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Spridgets] FYI - Good deal on MGTc on Craigslist in NorCal Message-ID: <11358197.1208622839644.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Gang, To good not to post! Check it out Best, Rick Feibusch Meet Coordinator, The Sierra Point Marina British Car Meet Tour, Swap Meet and Show in Brisbane, CA Sept 6th & 7th, 2008 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/646614249.html MG TC 1948 - $13000 (Downieville, CA) Reply to: sale-646614249 at craigslist.org Date: 2008-04-17, 10:05PM PDT This is an all original 1948 MGTC. The car has never been restored, has had fix its and repairs, runs well, cries out for a total restoration, not something I want to tackle. Engine is a BMC "goldstar" replacement, probably from the 1960s era so engine # does not match ID plate. Engine is an authentic XPAG. Side curtains will need new fabric and windows, frames are ok. Top is ok. I've been driving the car in summers for last two years. Tires are good, wheels are chrome, some pitting. Seats are covered in maroon vinyl, good shape. Needs new door hinges, have a replacement generator w/ tach drive. Price very fair and very firm. Don't even....Contact via e-mail.. for info. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Apr 19 10:50:50 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:50:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Timing MArks on Bottom of Engine 1098 In-Reply-To: <129891.30424.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <129891.30424.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1261130561.20080419095050@pacifier.com> Hello James, TDC is straight up and down .. the BIG pointer.. to the right, counterclockwise that is, the first mark is 5 degrees advance, the second one is 10 degrees advance. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 * "I'm not leaving the chapel until I finish this painting," said Michelangelo insistently. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Apr 19 10:55:40 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 09:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] web site cache In-Reply-To: <005d01c8a21e$d9ae0c40$8d0a24c0$@com> References: <005d01c8a21e$d9ae0c40$8d0a24c0$@com> Message-ID: <24860a624a8a63e70a3d3b0a.20080419095540.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Wm. Severin Thompson > Hey youse guys, > > > > There's a site somewhere that caches websites. anyone remember what it is? > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From twobees at sprynet.com Sat Apr 19 14:58:11 2008 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:58:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Visit Message-ID: <000501c8a260$14c98390$65451645@normoffice> Yeah. I'll be "visiting" New Jersey soon too. Spending a few hours on the Turnpike at 70 mph 2 car-lengths from the cars in front & in back. My favorite racetrack. But, like on a real racetrack at least on the NJ Tpk everyone is going the same direction. That is unlike Rt. 19 here in Pinellas County, FL. On 19 you also have cars doing 70, but in addition, you have cars crossing from right and left, making "U" turns, right turns from the left lane, etc. Most dangerous road I've seen. It's one of the reasons the MGB that was my daily driver when I lived in Connecticut & racked up an average 7,000 miles a year, gained only 300 miles in the 2 years I had it down here. Frank, I'll wave as I pass by Rt. 70. Finally got the Turner running right yesterday. For those of you who knew about the sluggish throttle response it has been suffering for the last year, including at the VDCA race at Roebling last Sept., it was solved by removing the 1-1/4" SUs & replacing them with the ancient, leaky 1-1/2" SUs from my '66 MGB. Made all the difference in the world. It ran as it should. Last week I removed them to rebuild & modify per Dave Vizard's recommendations. As of yesterday afternoon, all done & carbs tuned fairly well. Not sure the neighbors appreciated the loud acceleration tests. It does have a muffler, BUT... Cheers! Norm Sippel From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 16:09:47 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:09:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Race Bugeye for sale In-Reply-To: <48095412.50f0220a.10b4.22bdSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <48095412.50f0220a.10b4.22bdSMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804191509o3ae14ecdhbc5757dca6ae28cb@mail.gmail.com> Another reason these 'lists' are so darn good! Thanks Crash. Herb On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:08 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > I know that car well. If you flew into Reno International airport in the > last 20 years it was the one on the northwest end of the runway. It belonged > to John Wassam of John's British Cars. John was the guy you took your bug-I > to for a $50k "restoration" in Reno. As to the car itself, it may have been > completive in the 70's, but I doubt it has been raced since then. I haven't > seen John or the car in years, but would assume it was cobbled together from > old parts lying around his shop and not built to win races today. That being > said, please use extreme caution dealing with the lot selling this car. > These guys make a living out of selling fake "restored" cars for Hot August > Nights and make Cal Worthington in SoCal look like the saint of used car > salesman. If I was looking for any classic type car this would be the last > place I would look. So unless you want to pay top dollar for back lot car > stay away. Ask me offline and I'll tell you how I really feel. > > Crash From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Apr 19 20:04:50 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:04:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More Steering Column Message-ID: <2DD6CEA641F54F78BF08101DC69FD70C@Home> No one has figured out my problem with taking apart a steering column. See the splayed column that I need to reshape at http://tinyurl.com/6hhquw Entire front end is redone except for brake pads. Engine is swapped and redone except for wiring, which is a rat's nest. Rear end awaits a lot of attention. Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 21:33:43 2008 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party Link to picture In-Reply-To: <528589.82357.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <111582.36601.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here is the link to the picture http://tinyurl.com/4zzj8t Thanks Ed! Red Midget wrote: What's wrong with this picture? This photo was taken last summer at the home of one of the College Professors I work with. Each of the people seen in the pool have at least a masters degree in some sort of discipline. The power cord was needed for the electric grill setup in the center of the pool. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From davriker at nwi.net Sat Apr 19 22:16:49 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:16:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox noise - fixed References: <19052321.1208525645932.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <003101c8a29d$5b447f40$6600a8c0@dave> On a 1500, it probably isn't the waterpump, it is probably the fan clutch. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Jones" To: Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 6:34 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Gearbox noise - fixed > Hi Folks, > You may remember I heard a funny whistling/gargling noise noise coming > from location of the radio. So I was thinking it was the gearbox, seeing > that is directly below the radio. > Well, I disconnected the fan belt and the noise went away. Replaced the > alternator, put belt back on and the noise has not come back. Yeah! > 'Course now that I have said that, I'd better place an order for a water > pump. > Cheers, Adrian, 1500 Midget From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 19 22:31:48 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party Link to picture In-Reply-To: <111582.36601.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <860453.42395.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> These fellows are future "Darwin Award" candidates! --- On Sat, 4/19/08, Red Midget wrote: > > Here is the link to the picture > http://tinyurl.com/4zzj8t > > Thanks Ed! > > Red Midget wrote: > What's wrong with this picture? > > This photo was taken last summer at the home of one of the > College Professors I work with. Each of the people seen in > the pool have at least a masters degree in some sort of > discipline. The power cord was needed for the electric > grill setup in the center of the pool. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! > Mobile. Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Apr 19 22:41:08 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:41:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party Link to picture In-Reply-To: <111582.36601.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's definitely not a good idea, but as you can all see, it doesn't fry people like the movie & TV hair dryer in the bathtub. BZ From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Apr 20 06:22:42 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:22:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Neighborhood Party Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2rvr1q@email.mtu.edu> Ron, I suppose there will be a big neighborhood party now that Danica has won a race. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Apr 20 09:08:57 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:08:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (No LBC) PHD Pool Party Link to picture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73C78D9D-420D-41A2-BEAC-661DD39B31D4@comcast.net> umm.. I mean they weren't grounded so it's not a problem.. not that I would do it but *theoretically* there is no where for the current to go unless someone gets drunk and pokes a hole in the pool.. Lester On Apr 19, 2008, at 11:41 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > It's definitely not a good idea, but as you can all see, it doesn't > fry > people like the movie & TV hair dryer in the bathtub. > BZ From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 10:02:14 2008 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet Message-ID: <431555.36090.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What would cause number 1 and 2 cylinders to run rich? The plugs are wet, it doesn't idle real well and it smokes a bit. Both slides in th carbs open at the same time. the idles are set the same. I have the throttles synced pretty well. Any ideas? Joe ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 20 11:46:45 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet In-Reply-To: <431555.36090.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <431555.36090.qm@web33202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480B8185.6000300@comcast.net> Joe Lansing wrote: > What would cause number 1 and 2 cylinders to run rich? > The plugs are wet, it doesn't idle real well and it > smokes a bit. > > Front carb is too rich. Try leaning it out a little, the idle should improve then test it at speed. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From abcoz at hky.com Sun Apr 20 12:39:10 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet In-Reply-To: <480B8185.6000300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004b01c8a315$d32c5dc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Let's re-think that, a bit. Yes, it sounds like the front carb is running too rich. If the engine has run this way since it's last tune-up; O.K. Do as Frank suggests and lean the mixture. But, if it has suddenly developed this problem......well, those jet carriers don't back themselves off ("richening" the mixture), so leave the jet adjustment alone. Assuming no quirky ignition issues, I'd say check for a stuck float valve, or a leaky (slowly sinking) float in the front carb. Is the jet going fully back up, when the choke is released? Sometimes, with too much wear, in the right places, the jets won't return to their "run" position, against the bottom of the adjusting nut. Push up on the bottom of the jet, to check. If you hear a "click" (don't push too hard, or you could break the plastic tube the jet is in), that was the problem. Once a set of SUs has been CORRECTLY set-up, and adjusted, they will stay that way, unless someone has done/does something stupid to change them. Also, what color is the smoke, Joe? Black is caused by an over-rich mixture. Blue is oil. Which is it? Black is FAR easier to deal with, as a rule. White smoke is unlikely, given the symptoms you've described; so a head gasket leak is probably not indicated. I like to be long on the diagnosing, rather than quick on the adjusting, in order to get it right the first time. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:47 PM To: Joe Lansing Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet Joe Lansing wrote: > What would cause number 1 and 2 cylinders to run rich? > The plugs are wet, it doesn't idle real well and it > smokes a bit. > > Front carb is too rich. Try leaning it out a little, the idle should improve then test it at speed. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Sun Apr 20 12:45:57 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:45:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet In-Reply-To: <480B8185.6000300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004c01c8a316$c54e2520$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Oh.....almost forgot: Is the front carb piston moving freely? If not, and it is hanging up, a bit, that could be your problem, too. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:47 PM To: Joe Lansing Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet Joe Lansing wrote: > What would cause number 1 and 2 cylinders to run rich? > The plugs are wet, it doesn't idle real well and it > smokes a bit. > > Front carb is too rich. Try leaning it out a little, the idle should improve then test it at speed. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From smarc at smarc.net Sun Apr 20 13:42:01 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 15:42:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] compression test Message-ID: <480B9C89.1080704@smarc.net> What's the normal range for a 1275? -- Marc From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Apr 20 17:55:34 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:55:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet In-Reply-To: <004b01c8a315$d32c5dc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <004b01c8a315$d32c5dc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <480BD7F6.4030402@comcast.net> Bud Osbourne wrote: > Let's re-think that, a bit. Bud is right, I jumped to answer. But lately I have been tweaking SUs as I just finished the 67 and replaced the weber on the 59 with SUs and even yesterday had some fuel problems on the 58. But yes, do check the float and if the piston is sticking anywhere on full up or down, and it never hurts to back blow the jet into the float as dirt can get stuck in the jet tube. Also a stuck choke, push up on the jet and see if it moves. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 18:14:40 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Smoky - 1 and 2 wet In-Reply-To: <480BD7F6.4030402@comcast.net> Message-ID: <36161.66138.qm@web51601.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Just make sure you have all the fuel out of the float bowl first before you back blow the jet with compressed air. Don't ask!!!!!!! --- On Sun, 4/20/08, Frank Clarici wrote: > Let's re-think that, a bit. > > Bud is right, I jumped to answer. > and it never hurts to back blow the jet into the float as dirt can get stuck in the jet tube. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 20 20:56:26 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Prices for Model Airplane Engines Again Message-ID: <182c0a410d0a421e0a48df0a.20080420195626.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Look at the price a 50s Japanese model airplane engine brought on Ebay this weekend! http://tinyurl.com/4tu4ef Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Apr 20 20:58:53 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Model Engine on Ebay No LBC Message-ID: <33088a8956ea8b974a99d9aa.20080420195853.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Never Mind the Jap engine. Holy Cow! What someone paid for a Cox .049! http://tinyurl.com/3vojul Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Apr 20 22:17:52 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:17:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Prices for Model Airplane Engines Again References: <182c0a410d0a421e0a48df0a.20080420195626.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00d001c8a366$ac6549d0$6501a8c0@shop> HOLY S**t Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in the WRONG bidness!!!!! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 20 22:23:30 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Model Engine on Ebay No LBC In-Reply-To: <33088a8956ea8b974a99d9aa.20080420195853.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <871842.90360.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> " Holy Cow! What someone paid for a Cox .049! " Hmmmm... Makes me wonder what my old Cox Baja Bug is worth - it's got a .049 in it. Of course, mine got plenty of use when I was a kid. certainly isn't still in the wrapper. - David --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 05:45:39 2008 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rescued '73 MG Midget for sale Message-ID: <899275.18933.qm@web52802.mail.re2.yahoo.com> several months ago, I rescued this great '73 Midget project car from a sure death in a field. The owner had given up on ever restoring it (son lost interest) , and he called me because he knew I was a car guy. It is much too good to part out, and I do not have the time (or passion) to restore it. It is pretty much "all there" and ran good when he parked it a couple of years ago. I have the bills of sale and the last title (NC). Here is the Craigs List link. I need the garage space. Someone come get it! I will negotiate for a quick pick up. Wish I had the time... http://charleston.craigslist.org/car/635942907.html Mike Harper Mt Pleasant (Charleston) SC From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 21 08:36:14 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:36:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! In-Reply-To: <25927381.1208527756257.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25927381.1208527756257.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Remember Adrian, Midgets were never very quick to begin with. IIRC 1500 0-60 times were in the 14-15 sec range. Almost all cars, even econboxes are much quicker nowadays. Grassroots Motorsports did a track test with a vintage racecar and a new Minivan a couple years ago. The Minivan was quicker around a road course by several seconds! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto FINALLY painted.... > Hi Folks, > > Just yesterday I passed a lady cradling her infant in her arms. Nothing wrong with that but she was driving a big SUV at the time. Which got me thinking that I need to tune up this MG in case I need to get out of her way in a hurry one day. This MG has got zero acceleration. Sure, you can get up to 70 mph no problem, but it takes a while. > > > Anyways, my MG runs great. starts first time, etc, but when you put the hoof down, nothing happens except a leisurely increase in speed. I mean, at least my Toyota makes a big screaming noise when I do that. > > Cheers, Adrian _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Apr 21 08:47:59 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 07:47:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chico Brit show Message-ID: <000801c8a3be$b6c86800$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I drove Bugsy to the Chico All-Brit Car and Motorcycle show this Sunday. It had been moved from a local park to the fairway of a local Country Club. Laid out on a fairway like a real grown-up Concourse show. There was even a guy sliding absorbent pads under the cars as they pulled into position. The things all blew away in 2 seconds and kept him chasing them around all day, so there are 200 black spots on the #1 fairway this morning....HA! Bugsy was the ONLY bugeye Sprite in attendance. Two SBs and two midgets. Morris pick-ups(3!), convertible Morris, a Traveler, many Jags, MKI, II, E-type, XK120, 140 and modern. Lots of Triumphs. A Marcos XP got a ton of attention and looked awesome. A chopped and dropped Jag saloon with a flame job certainly stood out from the others with its huge sidepipes and tires. Two Aston Martins owned by the same person stood side by side, one old one modern. Nice show, cool temps, beautiful setting, BBQ tri-tip sandwiches and beer, stupid judging class structure, all in all a good day. The EFI Sprite started easily on a cold morning, ran great at 75-80MPH most of the way and still got 27MPH at those speeds and didn't get hot. The cruise control w/vacuum tank should arrive this week and complete my preparations for "the big drive". Glen Byrns From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 21 08:47:56 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:47:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News Message-ID: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> Here is a note from this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer. No comment from me is needed. Yet another reason to to avoid South Dakota: The Sioux Falls Canaries, an independent league team, are selling fried turkey testicles at their ballpark, according to the team's Web site. They're called - we're not making this up - Fowl Balls. "[They] will make a perfect complement to a cold beer at the Birdcage," said Bill Sedelmeier, the club's director of food and beverage services. "Fans will be able to choose from dipping sauces including ranch, barbecue, and bleu cheese." Apparently, turkey testicles are sold elsewhere, primarily in Asia and in some rural bars in the Midwest. ". . . Buy me some peanuts and turkey testicles." Anon From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Apr 21 09:31:46 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:31:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Not an amphibious Bond car Message-ID: I guess this would have been a good movie to use the amphibious car ... http://www.cbc.ca/arts/film/story/2008/04/20/bond-aston-crash.html?ref=rss From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Apr 21 10:07:16 2008 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:07:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone for a wooden car? Message-ID: <07b701c8a3c9$c4ffc6b0$0202fea9@xp> What an amazing talent. Check out the wooden cars (and other things) this guy has made. http://www.liviodemarchi.com/ukmain3.htm Heard From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 21 10:29:10 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:29:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th Message-ID: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Guys, I plan to attend the gathering at the Lake of the Ozarks this June. I will be trailering my Bugeye to the event as my 57 year old back would preclude me from driving the car out there for such a long distance. Maybe if I was 19 again I would take on such an adventure, but the air conditioned cab of my F-150 is much better for long hauls these days. The problem is the F-150 only gets 16 miles per gallon. It is at least 1700 miles one way to the 50th celebration. At present gas prices I estimate a fuel cost of almost $800 round trip if I go the shortest route and do not stray to explore as I am want to do. If gas prices hit $4.00 per gallon by summer, I probably won't be able to afford the trip. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Apr 21 10:45:28 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:45:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: For gas to hit $4.00 per gal. here, the price would have to go 'down'!! :) I was paying $4.81 cdn for premium gas yesterday when I drove to Toronto and back. ----Original Message Follows---- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com Guys, I plan to attend the gathering at the Lake of the Ozarks this June. I will be trailering my Bugeye to the event as my 57 year old back would preclude me from driving the car out there for such a long distance. Maybe if I was 19 again I would take on such an adventure, but the air conditioned cab of my F-150 is much better for long hauls these days. The problem is the F-150 only gets 16 miles per gallon. It is at least 1700 miles one way to the 50th celebration. At present gas prices I estimate a fuel cost of almost $800 round trip if I go the shortest route and do not stray to explore as I am want to do. If gas prices hit $4.00 per gallon by summer, I probably won't be able to afford the trip. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 11:09:20 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:09:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> We call 'em Turkey Fries around here. They are common and delicious. You can also get Calf Fries and Pig Fries - both epicurean delights. Cheers!! Jim On 4/21/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Here is a note from this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer. > No comment from me is needed. > > > Yet another reason to to avoid South Dakota: The Sioux Falls Canaries, > an independent league team, are selling fried turkey testicles at their > ballpark, according to the team's Web site. They're called - we're not > making this up - Fowl Balls. "[They] will make a perfect complement to a > cold beer at the Birdcage," said Bill Sedelmeier, the club's director of > food and beverage services. "Fans will be able to choose from dipping > sauces including ranch, barbecue, and bleu cheese." Apparently, turkey > testicles are sold elsewhere, primarily in Asia and in some rural bars > in the Midwest. ". . . Buy me some peanuts and turkey testicles." > > > Anon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 11:09:32 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:09:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Believe me, I feel your pain. I have the Pathfinder doing 17 to 19, WITHOUT a trailer. BTW, anyone out there know much about the Nissan Pathfinder? I know the owners manual mentions a secondary book, with towing procedures for the PF. I went to the dealership, who would be glad as hell to SELL me a book, that I feel *should* have been included in the sale. I posted to the Nissan Pathfinder list, asking for specifics, so I don't ruin the transmission, but have not received any information. Any Nissan gurus out there?? BTW, I am trailering our car as well. Not because my back can't take it, but because I want to bring along some jet ski's to play on the lake. Anyone interested in joining me for an early morning ride or two, bring some swim wear. Brad On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:29 AM, wrote: > Guys, > I plan to attend the gathering at the Lake of the Ozarks this June. > I will be trailering my Bugeye to the event as my 57 year old back > would preclude me from driving the car out there for such a long > distance. Maybe if I was 19 again I would take on such an adventure, > but the air conditioned cab of my F-150 is much better for long hauls > these days. The problem is the F-150 only gets 16 miles per gallon. > It is at least 1700 miles one way to the 50th celebration. At > present gas prices I estimate a fuel cost of almost $800 round trip > if I go the shortest route and do not stray to explore as I am want > to do. If gas prices hit $4.00 per gallon by summer, I probably > won't be able to afford the trip. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Apr 21 11:34:31 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:34:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <480CD027.7070601@b2systems.com> Here in Santa Barbara, gas has been over $4 for a week now, I paid $4.21 for the cheap stuff last night. Never thought I would see the day (or maybe hoped I would never see the day) where it costs $60 to fill up a small gas tanked Honda S2000, can hardly wait to have to fill up my GMC truck Chevron around the corner from my work is $4.24 Regular and $4.45 for Premium this morning. For the first time in 30 years of marriage my wife and I are having to budget gas costs into our summer vacation plans, gas was always so minor that we never took the freeways and always took the scenic detours and never totaled the gas costs into our vacation, this year its "You want to go to that lake for the afternoon or have an extra vacation day or 2?" From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 21 11:39:42 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:39:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> Yeah, well, I'm gonna have to take your word on that, Jim. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News We call 'em Turkey Fries around here. They are common and delicious. You can also get Calf Fries and Pig Fries - both epicurean delights. Cheers!! Jim On 4/21/08, Larry Daniels wrote: Here is a note from this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer. No comment from me is needed. Yet another reason to to avoid South Dakota: The Sioux Falls Canaries, an independent league team, are selling fried turkey testicles at their ballpark, according to the team's Web site. They're called - we're not making this up - Fowl Balls. "[They] will make a perfect complement to a cold beer at the Birdcage," said Bill Sedelmeier, the club's director of food and beverage services. "Fans will be able to choose from dipping sauces including ranch, barbecue, and bleu cheese." Apparently, turkey testicles are sold elsewhere, primarily in Asia and in some rural bars in the Midwest. ". . . Buy me some peanuts and turkey testicles." Anon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 21 11:51:20 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:51:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) In-Reply-To: References: <8CA6E9D2F4E4A8E-1DC-1823@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On the East coast, there's a place in Perkasie , pa, that it would wind up costing that much too.... Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:34:55 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > > The answer is rigt there in the ad: > "gave British Sports Cars in San Luis Obispo California 'carte blanche' to > restore it" > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: miniac7 at aol.com > To: grunthaner at gmail.com, spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:24:58 -0400 > > Guess you can't blame a guy for trying. Considering?it being the 50th year, > there's bound to be renewed interest in these cars, and maybe the right > buyer will catch wind of it. How he spent 42k is my question. > > Howard Collins > Virginia Beach, VA. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridgeteers > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 5:34 am > Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Austin Healey Bug Eye Sprite $31,500. : ) > > > > List, > I stumbled across this ad for a "restored Bugeye" the guy only wants > $31,500. He has 42,500. invested. > Enjoy, > Linda > > http://www.classicsandcustoms.com/search/Austin_Healey_Bug_Eye_Sprite_19218.a sp#first_image > You are subscribed as miniac7 at aol.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Apr 21 11:59:26 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <842850.71743.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hey Ron, Pretty cool, Is the Phenom a shortened version of the E135/Legacy RJ? Or a totally new airframe?. Super-midsized? Corporations are buying new planes like crazy now. Your tax loophole dollars at work. ;-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:02:14 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC > > What I've been doing for the last several months, 70 > to 105 hours per week - rollout of the Embraer Phenom > 300 on Saturday at Gaviao Peixoto, Brazil. The real > work is still to come during the certification > campaign. > > http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TDBkL5-6Vw > > Ron _________________________________________________________________ Going green? See the top 12 foods to eat organic. http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164&ocid=T003MSN51N1653 A From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 21 12:06:23 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:06:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> Haven't you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain Oysters? They're a lot better than the slimy ones that grew in shells. Kate Larry Daniels wrote: > Yeah, well, I'm gonna have to take your word on that, Jim. > > > > We call 'em Turkey Fries around here. They are common and delicious. You can > also get Calf Fries and Pig Fries - both epicurean delights. > > Cheers!! > Jim From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 12:44:05 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:44:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Model Engine on Ebay No LBC In-Reply-To: <33088a8956ea8b974a99d9aa.20080420195853.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <33088a8956ea8b974a99d9aa.20080420195853.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804211144r2aae17fenaac97b32f2540d7a@mail.gmail.com> Remember how many of those we used to 'junk'? From shop at justbrits.com Mon Apr 21 15:16:35 2008 From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:16:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Mgs] Rescued '73 MG Midget for sale Message-ID: <00f801c8a3f4$fd0e0000$6501a8c0@shop> Didn't see on autox List, so here. NFI, yada, yada............ ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Harper To: spridgets at autox.team.net ; mgs at autox.team.net ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: [Mgs] Rescued '73 MG Midget for sale several months ago, I rescued this great '73 Midget project car from a sure death in a field. The owner had given up on ever restoring it (son lost interest) , and he called me because he knew I was a car guy. It is much too good to part out, and I do not have the time (or passion) to restore it. It is pretty much "all there" and ran good when he parked it a couple of years ago. I have the bills of sale and the last title (NC). Here is the Craigs List link. I need the garage space. Someone come get it! I will negotiate for a quick pick up. Wish I had the time... http://charleston.craigslist.org/car/635942907.html Mike Harper Mt Pleasant (Charleston) SC _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 21 15:30:46 2008 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:30:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit Message-ID: <001301c8a3f6$f6b9c070$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> I've got a 60 Bugeye for which I just purchased a new fuel tank. I removed the sending unit from the old tank and was quite surprised how nice it looked. No shellac or grunge of any kind. Does anybody know what the range of resistance should be on this sentder and does the Cork gaskket require any gasket compound? Permatex? Thanks. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 21 14:47:43 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another Model Engine on Ebay No LBC In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10804211144r2aae17fenaac97b32f2540d7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <33088a8956ea8b974a99d9aa.20080420195853.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <2ad6c6b10804211144r2aae17fenaac97b32f2540d7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <218d4a5a4b3a5bc62a5658ba.20080421134743.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I have a large pile of used parts from junked engines. With these out of production now, you don't throw anything away anymore. Speaking of gas prices, glow fuel is getting expensive too! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 WFO Herb > Remember how many of those we used to 'junk'? From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Apr 21 16:44:51 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:44:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: RE: CastrolUSA - Expert Advice Form Data] Message-ID: <480D18E3.7080209@wi.net> Hi All, More fuel for the fire...ok that was "crude" humor (hehe). Below is a response I received from Castrol in response to my inquiry regarding ZDDP levels. Regards, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: CastrolUSA - Expert Advice Form Data Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:22:20 -0400 From: Castrol To: *Thank you for contacting Castrol,* * * The latest API SM/ILSAC GF-4 category calls for reduced Zinc and Phosphorus levels to allow extended catalyst life in current model vehicles. There appear to be field issues associated with the SM/GF-4 oil's level of antiwear in the classic car engines known as flat tappet cam engines. The current late model passenger car engines are not flat tappet cam engines and have no reported field issues related to the level of antiwear chemistry in the SM/GF-4 oils. **_Product Recommendations for Flat Tappet (Solid Lifter) Cam Engines:_** Castrol Syntec 5W-40 (min Zn = 0.10 wt % = 1000 ppm)(full synthetic) Castrol Syntec 20W-50 (Recent reformulation identified by "Recommended for Classic Cars" text on back label) (min Zn = 0.12 = 1200 ppm)(full synthetic) PREFERRED Castrol TWS Motorsport 10W-60 (BMW dealerships) (min Zn = 0.10 = 1000 ppm)(full synthetic) BMW Long Life 5W-30 (BMW dealerships)(min Zn = 0.095 = 950 ppm)(full synthetic) **_New Motorcycle Products, Expected to be Available Q2 2008:_** Castrol 4T 10W-40 and 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.10 wt % = 1000 ppm) Castrol Actevo X-Tra 10W-30, 10W-40, 20W-40 and 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.10 = 1000 ppm) Castrol Actevo X-Tra Offroad 10W-40 and 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.10 = 1000 ppm) Castrol Power RS GPS 10W-30, 10W-40 and 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.12 = 1200 ppm) PREFERED Castrol Power RS R4 10W-50 and 5W-40 (min Zn = 0.12 = 1200 ppm) PREFERED Castrol Power RS V-Twin 20W-40 and 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.12 = 1200 ppm) PREFERED **_Existing Motorcycle Products, Will Be Transitioning Out:_** Castrol Grand Prix 4-Stroke Motorcycle Oil 10W-40, 20W-50 (min Zn = 0.10 wt % = 1000 ppm) Castrol GO! 10W-40, 20W-50 Motorcycle Oil (min Zn = 0.10 = 1000 ppm) Castrol Consumer Relations No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1388 - Release Date: 4/20/2008 3:01 PM From gmeyer01 at snet.net Mon Apr 21 17:22:25 2008 From: gmeyer01 at snet.net (The Mayers) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] CT MG Club British Car, Truck, and Motorcycle Gathering Message-ID: <281011.38575.qm@web83818.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> This is an invitation to the CT MG Club annual show in Waterford, CT on Sunday June 1, 2008. See link for details http://mgclub.homestead.com/ Hope to see you there. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 21 17:32:41 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:32:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> <480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> Kate wrote: > Haven't you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain Oysters? They're a lot > better than the slimy ones that grew in shells. > > I'll eat the slimy oysters before I eat the hairy ones ;) Like Larry, I'll take your word on that. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 21 17:37:27 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:37:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <480D2537.5020903@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > BTW, I am trailering our car as well. Not because my back can't take it, but > because I want to bring along some jet ski's to play on the lake. So why not trailer the jetski behind the Sprite? I know it will haul it. Save gas, have fun, no jap car towing issues. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Apr 21 17:39:33 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <56529957.20080421163933@pacifier.com> Hello, back when it was announced that "the gathering" was to be held in Missouri, i did my budget calculations. i figured $4.00 a gal/30 miles a gallon, $533 for gasoline alone. Last trip out i got over 34 mpg, over hill and dale. Driving to Vancouver CA for the AFBM next month and i'll get a better figure for highway cruising. ... .. .. $100 a day for food, ... $100 a night for motel, 12 to 16 days on the road PLUS the missing wages that i have to have saved by then... .. .. i'm still going! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Go ahead, jump. 100,000 lemmings can't be wrong. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:47:34 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:47:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Old tip, sharing with new members Message-ID: I just finished changing out the flexible clutch line, from the frame rail to the slave, on the 68. Rather than have my master bleed on me, whilst changing the hose, I used a Wal Mart bag. I took the cap off the master, put the bag (double thickness) on top of the opening, and replaced the cap tightly. I removed the lines, and replaced everything, and only lost a few drops of fluid. I'll use the same trick when I change the rubber lines on the brakes tomorrow. Keeps the driveway clean, and the eyes Dot 4 free. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:49:40 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:49:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <480D2537.5020903@comcast.net> References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <480D2537.5020903@comcast.net> Message-ID: Cuz I'm bringing two. The trailer and skis weigh more than the Sprite itself!! On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > BTW, I am trailering our car as well. Not because my back can't take it, > > but > > because I want to bring along some jet ski's to play on the lake. > > > So why not trailer the jetski behind the Sprite? I know it will haul it. > Save gas, have fun, no jap car towing issues. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:54:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:54:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Old tip, sharing with new members In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804211651y570d6becj133664400bf7bda8@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0804211651y570d6becj133664400bf7bda8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The front end is up on stands now, and I am letting it drip bleed. I let it drip, and every 10 minutes, I go out and refill the master. After 3 refills, it usually works just fine. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Bradster.... > > I'm doing this on my 68 next week and will try your trick. What did you do > about the new flexline being empty? > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > > > I just finished changing out the flexible clutch line, from the frame > > rail > > to the slave, on the 68. Rather than have my master bleed on me, whilst > > changing the hose, I used a Wal Mart bag. I took the cap off the master, > > put > > the bag (double thickness) on top of the opening, and replaced the cap > > tightly. I removed the lines, and replaced everything, and only lost a > few > > drops of fluid. I'll use the same trick when I change the rubber lines > on > > the brakes tomorrow. > > Keeps the driveway clean, and the eyes Dot 4 free. > > > > Brad > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > > For info and registration... > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 17:57:14 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:57:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> <480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> Maybe we should do Calf Fries at the banquet dinner in Lake of the Ozarks and not tell anyone what they are.... ;-) Kate's right. You once screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so long! Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Kate wrote: > > Haven't you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain Oysters? They're a lot > > better than the slimy ones that grew in shells. > > > > > I'll eat the slimy oysters before I eat the hairy ones ;) > Like Larry, I'll take your word on that. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 18:13:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:13:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804211659q4ea7c91fs762d31d2fd75985e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <480D2537.5020903@comcast.net> <43840a7e0804211659q4ea7c91fs762d31d2fd75985e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 20 some years ago, it was $16 per 30 minutes to "rent". I already OWN 3, so I'll go the cheaper route, and bring my own. I'll already have the space. Brad On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Bradster, > > FWIW, There are tons of jet ski rental places in Osage Beach..... Some > are right near the hotel... Just so you know.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > > > Cuz I'm bringing two. The trailer and skis weigh more than the Sprite > > itself!! > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Frank Clarici > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > > > > > > BTW, I am trailering our car as well. Not because my back can't take > > it, > > > > but > > > > because I want to bring along some jet ski's to play on the lake. > > > > > > > So why not trailer the jetski behind the Sprite? I know it will haul > it. > > > Save gas, have fun, no jap car towing issues. > > > > > > -- > > > Frank Clarici > > > Toms River, NJ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > > For info and registration... > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 21 18:25:48 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:25:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction Message-ID: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> http://www.hessney.com/est042608/est042608.htm Anybody close to Seneca Falls, NY? I want one but can not make it there that day 4/26 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kentmclean at comcast.net Mon Apr 21 19:03:09 2008 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (kentmclean at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:03:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FS: 007 Aston Martin, slightly used Message-ID: <042220080103.12561.480D394D000BC759000031112215575474020E0A040C039B020A05@comcast.net> "James Bond's Aston Martin Looks Like 'Giant, Black, Wet Sock'" http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20193401,00.html I'm glad it wasn't me driving it. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From beatlemikey at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 19:22:31 2008 From: beatlemikey at yahoo.com (Mike Rivers) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:22:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to contact Paul A Message-ID: <843610.93564.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello, I'm trying to contact Paul A at Morriservice regarding a Datsun 5 Speed kit. I've been trying to contact him via email several times and havent heard back but only once. The reason is that I'm ready to deal and plan on doing the conversion over the Memorial Day weekend and would like to get the kit a few weeks before then to prep the trans. If anyone has any word on him, that would be appreciated. Thanks, Mike Rivers 1961 MG Midget 1275 From markwemple at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 19:26:41 2008 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <281276.13508.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Its up near my parents but they wouldn't have a clue. I'd love to go to but for the cub cadets. Looking for a lawn tractor. This reminds me, I still have a Class A Motorhome to sell. Mark --- Frank Clarici wrote: > http://www.hessney.com/est042608/est042608.htm > > Anybody close to Seneca Falls, NY? > I want one but can not make it there that day 4/26 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as markwemple at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From pdx.pete at verizon.net Mon Apr 21 19:29:32 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:29:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004701c8a418$51617150$4e076f47@DBKF4T81> WELL, POOP!! (And, yes ... I know that is considered yelling.) I have this friend who, up until a few weeks ago, worked in Seneca Falls. Up until a few days ago, he owned a house in Seneca Falls. The house has a very large 2+ car garage that has been for the most part empty. He is now living and working elsewhere. More to the point the garage, which would have been a perfect place to store hardtops, engines, Bugeyes, and the like, is now full of someone else's crap. I'm going to go pout now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction > http://www.hessney.com/est042608/est042608.htm > > Anybody close to Seneca Falls, NY? > I want one but can not make it there that day 4/26 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 21 19:29:40 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <981917.60652.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- brian S wrote: > Is the Phenom a shortened version of the E135/Legacy > RJ? > Or a totally new airframe?. Brian, It's actually a lengthened version of the Phenom 100, which is a new airframe. They build very, very nice aircraft. Next is the MSJ/MLJ, which is Mid Size/ Medium light jet. It's new also. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Apr 21 19:32:50 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry>, <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net>, <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480CDDD2.13806.27E2134@dmg.bossig.com> They said the same thing to me about Snails... "Don't you believe them!!" Tom (of Tom and Jerry) It would have been easier chewing pencil erasers.... On 21 Apr 2008 at 18:57, Jim Johnson wrote: >> screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so >> long! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 21 19:34:44 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry><43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com><025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry><480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <033801c8a419$0b178e90$6401a8c0@Larry> I'm a big fan of Italian. I also like the slimy oysters. Any good places nearby where Frank and I can eat without gagging? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News Maybe we should do Calf Fries at the banquet dinner in Lake of the Ozarks and not tell anyone what they are.... ;-) Kate's right. You once screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so long! Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Kate wrote: > > Haven't you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain Oysters? They're a lot > > better than the slimy ones that grew in shells. > > > > > I'll eat the slimy oysters before I eat the hairy ones ;) > Like Larry, I'll take your word on that. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Apr 21 19:54:22 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! Message-ID: <1b3401c8a41b$c8dd7cd0$0d6a010a@mail2world.com> I remember that article, but I thought it was a 60s Porche 911 that was beat! :) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: brian S [bugeye15 at hotmail.com] Sent: 4/21/2008 10:37:14 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! Remember Adrian, Midgets were never very quick to begin with. IIRC 1500 0-60 times were in the 14-15 sec range. Almost all cars, even econboxes are much quicker nowadays. Grassroots Motorsports did a track test with a vintage racecar and a new Minivan a couple years ago. The Minivan was quicker around a road course by several seconds! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto FINALLY painted.... > Hi Folks, > > Just yesterday I passed a lady cradling her infant in her arms. Nothing wrong with that but she was driving a big SUV at the time. Which got me thinking that I need to tune up this MG in case I need to get out of her way in a hurry one day. This MG has got zero acceleration. Sure, you can get up to 70 mph no problem, but it takes a while. > > > Anyways, my MG runs great. starts first time, etc, but when you put the hoof down, nothing happens except a leisurely increase in speed. I mean, at least my Toyota makes a big screaming noise when I do that. > > Cheers, Adrian _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_ Refresh_messenger_video_042008 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 21 20:12:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:12:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to contact Paul A In-Reply-To: <843610.93564.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <843610.93564.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <480D4983.6070700@comcast.net> Mike Rivers wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to contact Paul A at Morriservice Paul is recovering from some serious medical issues and surgery. It is still unknown when he will return to the shop. We all wish him a speedy recovery -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Apr 21 20:12:24 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:12:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News Message-ID: <02ab01c8a41e$4e415de0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Then somebody overcooked them. When I've had them,(including in Paris), they've been tender and tasty, with lots of butter and garlic. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Dave G. [dmg at bossig.com] Sent: 4/21/2008 9:33:50 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News They said the same thing to me about Snails... "Don't you believe them!!" Tom (of Tom and Jerry) It would have been easier chewing pencil erasers.... On 21 Apr 2008 at 18:57, Jim Johnson wrote: >> screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so >> long! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 21 20:31:45 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <033801c8a419$0b178e90$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry><43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com><025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry><480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> <033801c8a419$0b178e90$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <480D4E11.4010603@frontiernet.net> I don't think I've ever met such a bunch of wimps. Obviously, whoever fixed the snails didn't know how to cook, or you would have found them so tender they would melt in your mouth. Like shellfish, they are very easy to ruin by over cooking. Go somewhere with a /real/ chef, and you might find that you actually like them. Kate > > Any good places nearby where Frank and I can eat without gagging? From cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Mon Apr 21 21:08:48 2008 From: cbhlouky at bellsouth.net (Craig) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:08:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [spridgets] in Louisville, Ky Message-ID: <01ba01c8a426$2ff09e70$0201a8c0@home9cmfx9peca> In HONOR of the 50TH ANNIVERSARY of the AUSTIN HEALEY SPRITE the British Sports Car Club of Louisville is hosting our 24th annual British Bash Car Show on June 6th & 7th THE FEATURED MARQUE of the 2008 BRITISH BASH car show in Louisville, Kentucky, is HEALEY! * SAVE GAS money by PR-REGISTERING!! * Help raise money for the St. Joseph's Children's Home *HAVE a GREAT TIME! Ask any Healey owner who has attended our show! * SHADED LAWN to show your car! * GREAT PRIZES!!! 33 Classes PLUS MORE!!! * DOOR PRIZES! 2 Split-the-Pots * Friday evening "PUB NIGHT" with a short cruise, live music, good food, beer, ice cream, kiddie "bounces" !! * Saturday all British car show followed by a cruise down River Rd to the Dairy Queen!! * REAL restrooms!! ( tell your spouse!!) *!! PRE-REGISTER BEFORE MAY 3RD !!! *** Save over 30% *** 12 MORE DAYS TO SIGN UP CHEAP!!! Go 2 www.britishbash.com If you would prefer a mailed flyer, email me and I will have the Post Office deliver one to you!! cbhlouky at bellsouth.net Thanks and see you in June, Craig Holmes British Sports Car Club of Louisville, Ky From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 21:18:58 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:18:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to contact Paul A In-Reply-To: <843610.93564.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <843610.93564.qm@web56006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804212018q48ffcaceuf96bc27df46b72b3@mail.gmail.com> Mike, Peter Shull has been helping Paul out and also I think Paul's son. Try Peter and see if he can put you in touch ... Cheers!! Jim On 4/21/08, Mike Rivers wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm trying to contact Paul A at Morriservice regarding a Datsun 5 Speed > kit. I've been trying to contact him via email several times and havent > heard back but only once. The reason is that I'm ready to deal and plan on > doing the conversion over the Memorial Day weekend and would like to get the > kit a few weeks before then to prep the trans. > > If anyone has any word on him, that would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Mike Rivers > 1961 MG Midget 1275 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 21:22:40 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:22:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <033801c8a419$0b178e90$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> <025d01c8a3d6$aef94640$6401a8c0@Larry> <480CD79F.1040202@frontiernet.net> <480D2419.4090602@comcast.net> <43840a7e0804211657s5457a7e0td0d3674f64a672ba@mail.gmail.com> <033801c8a419$0b178e90$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804212022l1d2d73bbw5a70a3c39d7b12c4@mail.gmail.com> There is a great "old family" style Italian restuaraunt among many others. Terrific BBQ, everything from McDonalds to 5 star places where you can't get out for less than $100 a plate. You name it - its there.... You like slimy?? Mabye you'd like the Calf Fries better raw, then... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 4/21/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > I'm a big fan of Italian. > > I also like the slimy oysters. > > Any good places nearby where Frank and I can eat without gagging? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > To: "Frank Clarici" > Cc: "Spridgets List" > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News > > > Maybe we should do Calf Fries at the banquet dinner in Lake of the Ozarks > and not tell anyone what they are.... ;-) Kate's right. You once > screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so long! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Frank Clarici > wrote: > > > Kate wrote: > > > Haven't you guys ever heard of Rocky Mountain Oysters? They're a lot > > > better than the slimy ones that grew in shells. > > > > > > > > I'll eat the slimy oysters before I eat the hairy ones ;) > > Like Larry, I'll take your word on that. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 21 21:25:25 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:25:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <02ab01c8a41e$4e415de0$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <02ab01c8a41e$4e415de0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804212025m71ac7099q6f8b67d4d979977e@mail.gmail.com> Absolutely Chris! It is the most common sin with Escargot! They are lovely, sweet and melt in your mouth when cooked properly! Cheers!! Jim On 4/21/08, Chris King wrote: > > Then somebody overcooked them. When I've had them,(including in Paris), > they've been tender and tasty, with lots of butter and garlic. > > -=Chris > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > > <-----Original Message-----> > > From: Dave G. [dmg at bossig.com] > Sent: 4/21/2008 9:33:50 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News > > > They said the same thing to me about Snails... > > "Don't you believe them!!" Tom (of Tom and Jerry) > > It would have been easier chewing pencil erasers.... > > On 21 Apr 2008 at 18:57, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> screw up the guts to taste them and you'll wonder why you waited so > >> long! > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > . > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Apr 21 21:38:26 2008 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:38:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] [Fwd: RE: CastrolUSA - Expert Advice Form Data] In-Reply-To: <480D418D.3050200@ktc.com> References: <480D18E3.7080209@wi.net> <480D418D.3050200@ktc.com> Message-ID: <480D5DB2.1050504@wi.net> Charles & Peggy Robinson wrote: > Oh, Hell! Does this mean that they've reformulated our good ol' 20W50 > GTX Dino Oil so that it's no longer preferred for our MGs? (Whimper) > > CR > Yup! Dave Burlington WI From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Apr 21 22:21:40 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:21:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Mike, For what little it is worth I just got back from AZ and paid $3.40 a gallon. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 21 22:59:21 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: References: <4d08acf4ead2b4ae83aa.20080421092910.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <1491ca375b1a38436a2316ca.20080421215921.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I know the gas will get less expensive than California as I go east, but we'll have to see what it is by June. Mike Kitterer Bob > Mike, > > For what little it is worth I just got back from AZ and paid $3.40 a > gallon. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 05:56:02 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:56:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> Message-ID: Just so Everyone knows, This is the Estate of the very close friend of mine and my family,Glade Hall, that passed away last year. There is a TON of Sprite parts. Plus lots of sheet metal working equip. I wish I had heard of this auction earlier. Surprised his daughter didn't tell me about it. I told her to let me know so I could get some Spridget people there. I hope that they do well at the auction, she deserves it. I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, but I may have to try and make it to this instead. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:25:48 -0400 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction > > http://www.hessney.com/est042608/est042608.htm > > Anybody close to Seneca Falls, NY? > I want one but can not make it there that day 4/26 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after babyhow do you know when youre ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 22 06:59:22 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:59:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas Prices and the 50th In-Reply-To: <1491ca375b1a38436a2316ca.20080421215921.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Hmmm! Sorta makes you wonder if you'll want to go back after ... ;) ----Original Message Follows---- From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com I know the gas will get less expensive than California as I go east, but we'll have to see what it is by June. Mike > Mike, > > For what little it is worth I just got back from AZ and paid $3.40 a > gallon. > > Bob Kitterer From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 22 07:16:57 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:16:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804212025m71ac7099q6f8b67d4d979977e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I can't hear or see the word escargot without thinking about the caption under a cartoon of a snail driving a porsche: "Look at that S car go!". ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jim Johnson" Absolutely Chris! It is the most common sin with Escargot! They are lovely, sweet and melt in your mouth when cooked properly! Cheers!! Jim From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 07:17:24 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:17:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Phenom 300 NLBC In-Reply-To: <981917.60652.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <981917.60652.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info Ron. You're right, the do build some nice aircraft. In my line of work, always cool to know whats comin! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > --- brian S wrote: > > > Is the Phenom a shortened version of the E135/Legacy > > RJ? > > Or a totally new airframe?. > > Brian, > It's actually a lengthened version of the Phenom 100, > which is a new airframe. They build very, very nice > aircraft. Next is the MSJ/MLJ, which is Mid Size/ > Medium light jet. It's new also. > > Ron > _________________________________________________________________ Make i'm yours. Create a custom banner to support your cause. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Contribute/Default.aspx?source=TXT_TAGHM_MSN_ Make_IM_Yours From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 07:20:30 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:20:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! In-Reply-To: <822206.18508.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <822206.18508.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: heheheheh, A new Vette, huh?? Musta been the Driver. :-) Gettin faster all the time! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:17:51 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1500 Midget tune up and interesting timing procedure! > To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > My vintage Sprite was faster than GM's test of the > 2006 Corvette at Grattan Raceway. > > --- brian S wrote: > > > Remember Adrian, > > > > Midgets were never very quick to begin with. IIRC > > 1500 0-60 times were in the > > 14-15 sec range. > > Almost all cars, even econboxes are much quicker > > nowadays. > > Grassroots Motorsports did a track test with a > > vintage racecar and a new > > Minivan > > a couple years ago. The Minivan was quicker around a > > road course by several > > seconds! > > > > Brian S. > > > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > FINALLY painted.... _________________________________________________________________ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 07:24:32 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:24:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> References: <021101c8a3be$b0126b50$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804211009y722cb331r7220f8e56b3d5322@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Reminds me of the Movie Funny Farm with Chevy Chase. Set the record in the town for eating lamb Fries, til he found out what they were.... Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:09:20 -0500 > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News > > We call 'em Turkey Fries around here. They are common and delicious. You > can also get Calf Fries and Pig Fries - both epicurean delights. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On 4/21/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > > Here is a note from this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer. > > No comment from me is needed. > > > > > > Yet another reason to to avoid South Dakota: The Sioux Falls Canaries, > > an independent league team, are selling fried turkey testicles at their > > ballpark, according to the team's Web site. They're called - we're not > > making this up - Fowl Balls. "[They] will make a perfect complement to a > > cold beer at the Birdcage," said Bill Sedelmeier, the club's director of > > food and beverage services. "Fans will be able to choose from dipping > > sauces including ranch, barbecue, and bleu cheese." Apparently, turkey > > testicles are sold elsewhere, primarily in Asia and in some rural bars > > in the Midwest. ". . . Buy me some peanuts and turkey testicles." > > > > > > Anon > > __________ _________________________________________________________________ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 07:28:15 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RC Model Engine gas prices No LBC In-Reply-To: <218d4a5a4b3a5bc62a5658ba.20080421134743.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <400161.52566.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "Speaking of gas prices, glow fuel is getting expensive too!" Tell me about it - I just spent $30 on a gallon of fuel for my son's Traxxus monster truck RC. Of course, that gallon goes a long way. The alternative was almost $12 for a quart. But hey, in the big scheme of things it's cheap fun for the two of us and helps assure that there'll be another generation of car-nuts around to buy our cars when we're done with them. - David --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 22 07:46:41 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:46:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News References: Message-ID: <05ac01c8a47f$4bd71d90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I can't hear or see the word escargot without thinking about the caption > under a cartoon of a snail driving a porsche: "Look at that S car go!". For that matter, Sears had a line of roof-top lugage carriers for cars called S-Cargo ;-) From abcoz at hky.com Tue Apr 22 08:26:51 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:26:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit In-Reply-To: <001301c8a3f6$f6b9c070$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> Message-ID: <009a01c8a484$e8523880$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Jim, Dunno what the resistance figures may be; but, if you test it, and get a significantly different reading from one end of the float arm travel to the other, the unit is working just fine and you can feel comfortable about installing it in your new fuel tank. As far as putting anything on the cork gasket: No. Nothing at all. As with most cork gaskets, just soak it in clean water, if in doubt. This (soaking in water) used to be a commonly recommended (by the factory) thing, "back in the day". Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Fournier Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:31 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit I've got a 60 Bugeye for which I just purchased a new fuel tank. I removed the sending unit from the old tank and was quite surprised how nice it looked. No shellac or grunge of any kind. Does anybody know what the range of resistance should be on this sentder and does the Cork gaskket require any gasket compound? Permatex? Thanks. From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 08:20:02 2008 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1974 tub on E-Bay Message-ID: <431196.37870.qm@web51911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> As usuall N.F.I. Decent looking 1974 round wheel arch tub on E-Bay item number: 130216766948 --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From abcoz at hky.com Tue Apr 22 08:44:49 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:44:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <004701c8a418$51617150$4e076f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <00a401c8a487$6a837740$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> I think I'll do some pouting about that one, too. There is some really neat stuff there. I sure hope those Sprites (& associated parts) all find good homes. Anybody on the List going to attend the auction? Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Shull Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:30 PM To: Frank Clarici; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction WELL, POOP!! (And, yes ... I know that is considered yelling.) I have this friend who, up until a few weeks ago, worked in Seneca Falls. Up until a few days ago, he owned a house in Seneca Falls. The house has a very large 2+ car garage that has been for the most part empty. He is now living and working elsewhere. More to the point the garage, which would have been a perfect place to store hardtops, engines, Bugeyes, and the like, is now full of someone else's crap. I'm going to go pout now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction > http://www.hessney.com/est042608/est042608.htm > > Anybody close to Seneca Falls, NY? > I want one but can not make it there that day 4/26 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From biffjones at verizon.net Tue Apr 22 08:41:59 2008 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:41:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit References: <009a01c8a484$e8523880$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <016a01c8a487$05a811a0$2f01a8c0@dell1> The bugeye sending unit has the following resistance readings: 0 Ohms = open circuit (broken wire) 14 Ohms = Full (up position) 90 Ohms = Half tank 258 Ohms = Empty These are for sending unit # FT5300/32 and gauge unit # FG2530/31or FG2530/64 Latter sending units read the opposite of above, i.e., Full = 120 Ohms, Empty = 30 Ohms Cork gasket should work fine without any goo. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 22 08:50:27 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News In-Reply-To: <05ac01c8a47f$4bd71d90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <05ac01c8a47f$4bd71d90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080422094736.032ec1c8@nosimport.com> At 08:46 AM 4/22/2008, David Lieb wrote: > >I can't hear or see the word escargot without thinking about the caption > > under a cartoon of a snail driving a porsche: "Look at that S car go!". I believe the cartoon was of a 4CV >For that matter, Sears had a line of roof-top lugage carriers for cars >called S-Cargo ;-) Way more fun is the Nissan Figaro (I WILL have one someday) and the Nissan S-Cargo. Go here http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/figaro/ While roaming around England the Figaro was a real head-turner for Jane and I. Peter C. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 22 09:09:10 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:09:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News References: <05ac01c8a47f$4bd71d90$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20080422094736.032ec1c8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <049401c8a48a$d21c47d0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" Way more fun is the Nissan Figaro (I WILL have one someday) and the Nissan S-Cargo. Go here http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/figaro/ While roaming around England the Figaro was a real head-turner for Jane and I. Peter C. _______________________________________________ You can have the S-Cargo, but I kind of like that Figaro. It reminds me of an Austin A40 Sports -- which I definitely would like to have. LAD From pdx.pete at verizon.net Tue Apr 22 09:31:41 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:31:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction References: <00a401c8a487$6a837740$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <004301c8a48d$f709fcb0$4e076f47@DBKF4T81> More good timing. My friend, John the B*****d, who up until recently lived in Seneca Falls but no longer does, has a friend by the name of Al. Al lives just outside of SFalls and his property is "just down the road from where the auction will be held". Al apparently knows almost all there is to know about the lay of the land, the items up for auction, etc., etc., and might have the potential to store a few things. Al is currently on a prolonged vacation in Nova Scotia. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Apr 22 09:35:49 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit Message-ID: <21049288.1208878549625.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hey Biff, Why do you call your black Mk II Sprite gray? Just curious. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Biff Jones >Sent: Apr 22, 2008 10:41 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit > >The bugeye sending unit has the following resistance readings: >0 Ohms = open circuit (broken wire) >14 Ohms = Full (up position) >90 Ohms = Half tank >258 Ohms = Empty > >These are for sending unit # FT5300/32 and gauge unit # FG2530/31or >FG2530/64 > >Latter sending units read the opposite of above, i.e., Full = 120 Ohms, >Empty = 30 Ohms > >Cork gasket should work fine without any goo. > >Biff Jones >'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye >'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite >http://sprites2.homestead.com/ >_______________________________________________ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From max at maxengland.com Tue Apr 22 09:46:24 2008 From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:46:24 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Re: BE Fuel Sending unit] Message-ID: <57028.212.166.46.72.1208879184.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Hello everyone, My midget mkIII fuel gauge reads half all the time when the ignition is on. I've seen many posts talking of a full gauge when tank is empty and vice-versa, but never seen 'half all the time when there's current getting to the gauge'. Any idea? Could it be a bad earth somewhere or is it possible that the sending unit is blocked halfway? Thanks in advance, Max > Hey Biff, > > Why do you call your black Mk II Sprite gray? Just curious. > > Mike C > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Biff Jones >>Sent: Apr 22, 2008 10:41 AM >>To: spridgets at autox.team.net >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit >> >>The bugeye sending unit has the following resistance readings: >>0 Ohms = open circuit (broken wire) >>14 Ohms = Full (up position) >>90 Ohms = Half tank >>258 Ohms = Empty >> >>These are for sending unit # FT5300/32 and gauge unit # FG2530/31or >>FG2530/64 >> >>Latter sending units read the opposite of above, i.e., Full = 120 Ohms, >>Empty = 30 Ohms >> >>Cork gasket should work fine without any goo. >> >>Biff Jones >>'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye >>'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite >>http://sprites2.homestead.com/ >>_______________________________________________ > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as max at maxengland.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 10:04:57 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Re: BE Fuel Sending unit] In-Reply-To: <57028.212.166.46.72.1208879184.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> References: <57028.212.166.46.72.1208879184.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: WELL........ When I got one of my cars, forget which one, it had been sitting for a LONG TIME. It also read the same level, regardless of fuel amount. I drained the tank, it had a drain plug in it, and pulled it out of the car. I removed the sending unit, and found it to be frozen in place. Since it was already a lost cause, I sprayed it down liberally with some chemical to loosen it, and gently started to swing the float arm back and forth. It freed up, and worked fine after that. That might give you a place to start. Brad On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Maxime Slegers wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My midget mkIII fuel gauge reads half all the time when the ignition is > on. I've seen many posts talking of a full gauge when tank is empty and > vice-versa, but never seen 'half all the time when there's current getting > to the gauge'. > > Any idea? Could it be a bad earth somewhere or is it possible that the > sending unit is blocked halfway? > > Thanks in advance, > > Max > > > Hey Biff, > > > > Why do you call your black Mk II Sprite gray? Just curious. > > > > Mike C > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>From: Biff Jones > >>Sent: Apr 22, 2008 10:41 AM > >>To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit > >> > >>The bugeye sending unit has the following resistance readings: > >>0 Ohms = open circuit (broken wire) > >>14 Ohms = Full (up position) > >>90 Ohms = Half tank > >>258 Ohms = Empty > >> > >>These are for sending unit # FT5300/32 and gauge unit # FG2530/31or > >>FG2530/64 > >> > >>Latter sending units read the opposite of above, i.e., Full = 120 Ohms, > >>Empty = 30 Ohms > >> > >>Cork gasket should work fine without any goo. > >> > >>Biff Jones > >>'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > >>'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite > >>http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > >>_______________________________________________ > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > PeoplePC Online > > A better way to Internet > > http://www.peoplepc.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as max at maxengland.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 11:06:45 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <004301c8a48d$f709fcb0$4e076f47@DBKF4T81> References: <00a401c8a487$6a837740$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <004301c8a48d$f709fcb0$4e076f47@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804221006l2d274b4jcd714bb85a5d6edb@mail.gmail.com> Hmmmm.... My sister lives just down the interstate in Baldwinsville...... But she's got no way to haul parts or bodies.... Cheers!! Jim On 4/22/08, Peter Shull wrote: > > More good timing. > > My friend, John the B*****d, who up until recently lived in Seneca Falls > but > no longer does, has a friend by the name of Al. > > Al lives just outside of SFalls and his property is "just down the road > from > where the auction will be held". Al apparently knows almost all there is > to > know about the lay of the land, the items up for auction, etc., etc., and > might have the potential to store a few things. > > Al is currently on a prolonged vacation in Nova Scotia. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Apr 22 11:30:45 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:30:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News Message-ID: <24975323.1208885445938.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Way more fun is the Nissan Figaro (I WILL have one someday) and the Nissan S-Cargo. Go here http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/figaro/ While roaming around England the Figaro was a real head-turner for Jane and I. ___________________________ There's a guy in Canada that has Figaros on eBay from time to time. He also sells a number of Honda Beat cars. More modern looking than the Figaro but way cool too! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Apr 22 12:00:25 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:00:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 looking for happy home Message-ID: <05fa01c8a4a2$bdf47170$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I happen to know of a 948 engine from a 1959 Bugeye that is looking for a happy home. Shipping really makes no sense, so if you can pick it up in the Midwest, let me know. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Apr 22 12:04:21 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:04:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks to Practrical Classics for the donation Message-ID: <380-22008422218421328@earthlink.net> The good people at Practical Classics have arranged to have the third place prize check for $1,000 cut by the Turtle Wax Corporate Office in Westmont, Illinois. That way, there will be no exchange rate or commission issues to eat away at the money. As I have said so often, I am deeply indebted to those 23 great guys from every corner of America, from Florida to Connecticut to Oregon and points in-between, who came together for the BusterCluster. It is they, not me, who earned this prize. After retaining 25% to pay tithe to my Anglican-Catholic Church, and to pay taxes to the Federal and California State Governments, I have quite happily sent a check for $750 to the Sprite Midget Club USA. This money is to help defray costs of the Golden Anniversary celebration of the Austin-Healey Sprite, "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, Missouri, June 26-29, 2008. The check is now in the 50th celebration treasury! While the BusterCluster may be on the card as a sponsor of the event, I think that credit is also due to Practical Classics, and its editor, Matt Wright, and to Turtle Wax for it is their contribution that will further the anniversary and the world's love of the Sprite and its off-spring, the MG Midget. They should be on the card as the BusterCluster's contribution, too. Once again, thank you one and all. Buster Evans (If any of you wish to extend appreciation to Practical Classics, Matt Wright's e-mail is mattwright at emap.com .) From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Apr 22 12:12:04 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:12:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Congratulations, folks Message-ID: <380-22008422218124251@earthlink.net> Vigil wrote: "I think it is great your putting some of the money back into the car. Being one of the 23 people at the Buster Cluster. I for one would rather see the donation go to the Help Paul A Fund. Some one who was one of the 23 members at the Buster Cluster. To me it just seems right now that he needs help." I can see where you are coming from, Vigil, and can appreciate your thought. However, when the Practical Classics contest began, I explained my offer, and I feel bound by it. I like to believe that my word is my bond. As have so many, I have also benefited from Paul's generous largess from the BusterCluster on. He is a dear and valuable friend. I feel privileged to have been able to contribute directly to the fund Pete has set up and administered. We are all looking forward to Paul quick and healthy recovery and return to the fold. Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Apr 22 12:12:30 2008 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:12:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Disagreements over Shepherd's Pie Message-ID: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> A couple of months ago, there were some "discussions" on the list over the proper ingredients for Shepherd's Pie. Fortunately, these "discussions" did not get as emotionally heated as this one between two brothers in England. http://tinyurl.com/5xyudf From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 22 12:19:55 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:19:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News References: <24975323.1208885445938.JavaMail.root@wmvirt5> Message-ID: <04f901c8a4a5$7789ae50$6401a8c0@Larry> Unfortunately, since the Beat and the Figaro were both first produced in 1991, it will be at least another 8 years before you can bring one into the country and drive it on the streets without meeting EPA and DOT rules. A friend of mine bought a Ferrari race car from a museum in Germany and it cost him another $80,000 to make it legal for the road here. One of these cars might not be that expensive, but how much less will it have to be before you would do it? I wouldn't doubt that it would cost more than the car did when new. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Monday Morning News Way more fun is the Nissan Figaro (I WILL have one someday) and the Nissan S-Cargo. Go here http://www.sussexsportscars.co.uk/figaro/ While roaming around England the Figaro was a real head-turner for Jane and I. ___________________________ There's a guy in Canada that has Figaros on eBay from time to time. He also sells a number of Honda Beat cars. More modern looking than the Figaro but way cool too! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Apr 22 14:35:32 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:35:32 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Re: BE Fuel Sending unit] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had a fuel guage that didn't go below a quarter of a tank. I assume that the PO never let it go below that. But, I can assure you that the gas did continue to go down. :( I've trained it better now. ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Brad Fornal" WELL........ When I got one of my cars, forget which one, it had been sitting for a LONG TIME. It also read the same level, regardless of fuel amount. I drained the tank, it had a drain plug in it, and pulled it out of the car. I removed the sending unit, and found it to be frozen in place. Since it was already a lost cause, I sprayed it down liberally with some chemical to loosen it, and gently started to swing the float arm back and forth. It freed up, and worked fine after that. That might give you a place to start. Brad On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Maxime Slegers wrote: > Hello everyone, > > My midget mkIII fuel gauge reads half all the time when the ignition is > on. I've seen many posts talking of a full gauge when tank is empty and > vice-versa, but never seen 'half all the time when there's current getting > to the gauge'. > > Any idea? Could it be a bad earth somewhere or is it possible that the > sending unit is blocked halfway? > > Thanks in advance, > > Max > > > Hey Biff, > > > > Why do you call your black Mk II Sprite gray? Just curious. > > > > Mike C > > > > -----Original Message----- > >>From: Biff Jones > >>Sent: Apr 22, 2008 10:41 AM > >>To: spridgets at autox.team.net > >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Sending unit > >> > >>The bugeye sending unit has the following resistance readings: > >>0 Ohms = open circuit (broken wire) > >>14 Ohms = Full (up position) > >>90 Ohms = Half tank > >>258 Ohms = Empty > >> > >>These are for sending unit # FT5300/32 and gauge unit # FG2530/31or > >>FG2530/64 > >> > >>Latter sending units read the opposite of above, i.e., Full = 120 Ohms, > >>Empty = 30 Ohms > >> > >>Cork gasket should work fine without any goo. > >> > >>Biff Jones > >>'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye > >>'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite > >>http://sprites2.homestead.com/ > >>_______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Apr 22 17:41:13 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Along the auction lines...LBC statesmen Message-ID: <86338.11925.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had the pleasure of working with one of the most brilliant software people I've met this week, and when he walked into my office he nearly screamed "Who's Bugeye is that?" in reference to a large picture hanging that Jeff Porasik gave me for Christmas last year of our cars going through Turn 6 at Blackhawk Farms. It turns out his wife's uncle has been racing an MG-TC since 1948 (Peter asked how many times he's beaten it). He's also had just about every post war MG, along with Jags, Healeys, and a Siata (!!!!). The gentleman finally hung up his racing suit a few years ago, but his name is Jim Carson. Upon googling, I found him associated with the PVGP and other VSCCA events. His health is slipping a bit, and he has started selling off some of his collection. If anyone knows Jim and can tell me anything about his history in racing, I would greatly appreciate. From the brief stories his nephew in-law told me, sounds like quite a guy. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Tue Apr 22 19:23:05 2008 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs and door hinge screws Message-ID: <50398.72.71.217.71.1208913785.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> List I'm looking for a souce for the door hinge phillips screws that secure the hinge to the A post. I can find the thread, but only in a hex head bolt. The buguye doors need a phillips screw. Next --- Where do I look for step by step directions for adjusting the carbs. I got the 66 out of storage yesterday and after some effort, got it started and it ran pretty well on the 15 minute ride home. I took it out again last night when the engine was still warm and it started right away, with a bit of sputtering, but not too much. I tried to start it this morning when it was 37 degrees and again tonight when it was 55 degrees, but it won't catch, or even start to catch, when I turn it over. Air filters are off, pistons move freely and it smells like it's getting fuel. I need help to get it running and to stay running. Thanks Dick B. in NH From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Apr 22 19:49:47 2008 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:49:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs and door hinge screws In-Reply-To: <50398.72.71.217.71.1208913785.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50398.72.71.217.71.1208913785.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <008001c8a4e4$505585e0$f10091a0$@com> The door hinge screws are actually oizi-drive and not Phillips so hard to find here in the US. If you are not worried about being totally original you can get Phillips ones here www.mcmaster.com Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+duncan=pondhop.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:23 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs and door hinge screws List I'm looking for a souce for the door hinge phillips screws that secure the hinge to the A post. I can find the thread, but only in a hex head bolt. The buguye doors need a phillips screw. Next --- Where do I look for step by step directions for adjusting the carbs. I got the 66 out of storage yesterday and after some effort, got it started and it ran pretty well on the 15 minute ride home. I took it out again last night when the engine was still warm and it started right away, with a bit of sputtering, but not too much. I tried to start it this morning when it was 37 degrees and again tonight when it was 55 degrees, but it won't catch, or even start to catch, when I turn it over. Air filters are off, pistons move freely and it smells like it's getting fuel. I need help to get it running and to stay running. Thanks Dick B. in NH You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1391 - Release Date: 4/22/2008 8:15 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Apr 22 19:58:14 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:58:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs and door hinge screws In-Reply-To: <50398.72.71.217.71.1208913785.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50398.72.71.217.71.1208913785.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <1158497528.20080422185814@pacifier.com> Hello Lindalnhvt, try here.. http://members.core.com/~ckotting/tuning.html or here clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/ibcc/misc/TS_SU_Tuneup.pdf or one of the nicest.. http://www.manchester-minis.cwc.net/technical/sucarbs-roger_garnett.htm i simply did a google search "tuning SU carbs" -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 You're only young once. You're immature forever. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Apr 22 20:26:11 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 19:26:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs and door hinge screws In-Reply-To: <008001c8a4e4$505585e0$f10091a0$@com> Message-ID: You should be able to get Philips screws in stainless at the local hardware store. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 21:19:11 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:19:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Disagreements over Shepherd's Pie In-Reply-To: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> References: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804222019j12d3ce4et409a48c54e66bf1e@mail.gmail.com> In all my years in Britain and having been married to a British wife who was an excellent cook, I would have to say that I *never* saw a Sheperd's Pie with tomatoes atop it. I'd have hit the bugger with a shovel too! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On 4/22/08, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > A couple of months ago, there were some "discussions" on the list over the > proper ingredients for Shepherd's Pie. Fortunately, these "discussions" > did not get as emotionally heated as this one between two brothers in > England. > > http://tinyurl.com/5xyudf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Apr 22 22:52:34 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to mention all the fun! brian S wrote: > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Apr 23 01:32:31 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Denso alt mount Message-ID: <322159.86524.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After several awful attempts at mounting the Denso/Kubota Mal Fay alternator to a 1275, Dr. Marsh from college is about to revoke my Timoshenko and Rourke textbooks. This is the variant with ears 180 apart and offset. Please send pictures, diagrams, catia files, anything. I'm frustrated. Ron 'hopper ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 03:20:09 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks to Practrical Classics for the donation In-Reply-To: <380-22008422218421328@earthlink.net> References: <380-22008422218421328@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804230220s6b85159s18228e3cbb8fc07d@mail.gmail.com> Buster, You are right. I will add Practical Classics and Turtle Wax to the sponsors card! Cheers!! Jim On 4/22/08, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > The good people at Practical Classics have arranged to have the third > place prize check for $1,000 cut by the Turtle Wax Corporate Office in > Westmont, Illinois. That way, there will be no exchange rate or commission > issues to eat away at the money. > As I have said so often, I am deeply indebted to those 23 great guys from > every corner of America, from Florida to Connecticut to Oregon and points > in-between, who came together for the BusterCluster. It is they, not me, who > earned this prize. > After retaining 25% to pay tithe to my Anglican-Catholic Church, and to > pay taxes to the Federal and California State Governments, I have quite > happily sent a check for $750 to the Sprite Midget Club USA. This money is > to help defray costs of the Golden Anniversary celebration of the > Austin-Healey Sprite, "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, > Missouri, June 26-29, 2008. The check is now in the 50th celebration > treasury! > While the BusterCluster may be on the card as a sponsor of the event, I > think that credit is also due to Practical Classics, and its editor, Matt > Wright, and to Turtle Wax for it is their contribution that will further the > anniversary and the world's love of the Sprite and its off-spring, the MG > Midget. They should be on the card as the BusterCluster's contribution, > too. > Once again, thank you one and all. > Buster Evans > (If any of you wish to extend appreciation to Practical Classics, Matt > Wright's e-mail is mattwright at emap.com .) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Apr 23 05:56:49 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:56:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lotus Seven DoubleBearing Hubs Message-ID: <8833135.1208951809396.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I just wanted to drop you all a note of thanks for all of your insight and help with installing the DoubleBearing hubs on my series one Lotus Seven. I went with Doug's recommendation on using the sealed outer bearing and I can finally say that after about 50 miles of driving, I still have rear brakes that are actually dry. I followed all of the instructions that you all gave me and things went really easy. I did wind up leaving out the bend-over lock washer and just using loctite on clean threads. I went to 120 ft-lbs of torque on the big nut. Mike Carpenter 1960 lotus Seven 1961 Lotus Seven America 1961 Bugeye 1962 MK II Sprite ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Wed Apr 23 06:00:25 2008 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Denso alt mount Message-ID: <32748927.1208952025573.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Ron and all, I would like to switch to alternator on my Seven. I remember seeing and meeting Mal Fay at Mid-Ohio back four or five years ago. I liked the small alternator set-up. I would like to buy one and need the part number or better description and any info that is passed to Ron. Can youall help me? Thanks, Mike Carpenter -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave >Sent: Apr 23, 2008 3:32 AM >To: Spridgets , team-thicko at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Denso alt mount > >After several awful attempts at mounting the >Denso/Kubota Mal Fay alternator to a 1275, Dr. Marsh >from college is about to revoke my Timoshenko and >Rourke textbooks. This is the variant with ears 180 >apart and offset. Please send pictures, diagrams, >catia files, anything. I'm frustrated. > >Ron >'hopper > > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Apr 23 06:04:22 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:04:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> Message-ID: If we'd only known about it sooner, that'd be a GREAT idea, Bill. Just to add a little more info, IIRC, all the engines are 948s. A race motor or 2 in there. About 10 smooth case tranny's too. Lots of carbs', doors heads and other parts not shown. The Red and white Bugeye's that are indoors are in pretty good shape body wise. There's a lot of sheet metal working stuff as that was the business that he was in for most of his life. There was a walk in Blasting booth last time I was there. And as you can see, several cabinets full of nuts bolts hardware and such. He was a great tinkerer and restored quite a few vehicles. Looks like the few that were done got sold already. Hope they all get to a good home, as I'd hate to see alot of that stuff go to a junkyard.. Wish I'd known about it sooner. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, > cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to mention > all the fun! > > brian S wrote: > > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after babyhow do you know when youre ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 06:31:38 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:31:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] soda blasting Message-ID: <205cef430804230531g400ea1cftf02dcc443ec96faf@mail.gmail.com> List, Can soda blasting be applied with a small hand held sand blaster gun the kind with the small container attached? Also as I understand it once you soda blast you will need to hose off the metal with plain water, is that correct? After this is done can I apply an enamel paint for the frame of an auto? I won't be doing this to my Sprite (but I may if I like the effect I may in the future) but to another vehicle that is pretty bad shape and I wanted to understand if I need to apply any other product to the bare metal after the soda blasting. Being I have never soda blasted before any tips will help and I have heard it doesn't hurt the environment and leaves a nice clean surface. Thanks Linda From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Apr 23 07:01:48 2008 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:01:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... Message-ID: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 08:00:15 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> Message-ID: <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> Somebody seriously needs to get a job to take up their excess free time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Apr 23 08:38:40 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:38:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... In-Reply-To: <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <6C8C7995-B9A8-4D05-993B-311709265913@comcast.net> hmm.. methinks he doth protest too .. well.. he didn't really protest all that much so.. hmm.. nevermind.. he protesteth just about right.. Lester On Apr 23, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Somebody seriously needs to get a job to take up their excess free > time. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > To: "'Spridgets'" > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... > > > http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a > name of > image001.png] > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 23 09:03:10 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:03:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] 948 Looking for a Happy Home References: <028701c89d87$83ea3810$8bbea830$@com> <024201c8a535$620ce0c0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <063d01c8a553$25cb53d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Looks like the engine has a home now. Thank you for your concern. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:30 Subject: [Thicko] 948 Looking for a Happy Home > You KNOW you need another 948 engine cluttering up your life! This is your > lucky day. I just happen to know of a guy with a 948 who is quite tired of > tripping over it. It is from a 1959 Bugeye. It was replaced with a 1275 > four > or five years ago because the owner thought that the engine had > self-destructed. Upon investigation, it turned out that one of the valve > adjusters had walked its way clear out of the rocker arm, but any excuse > will do to install a 1275 ;-) So, this 948 had been living the life of DMH > (I couldn't very well say "Riley", could I?) in the corner of the garage > and > it is time to get it out of there. Free to good home! > David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:09:22 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:09:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Disagreements over Shepherd's Pie In-Reply-To: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> References: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804230909m30b6bf15j9fb20ba3c8394228@mail.gmail.com> Sheep tastes OK but I never developed a taste for shepherd. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:12:04 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:12:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... In-Reply-To: <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804230912qc45d554yf573b2ba5abb4444@mail.gmail.com> Larry, It's just Flounder. You should know by now that every morning he does an internet google search for "loud sex".... Cheers!! Jim On 4/23/08, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Somebody seriously needs to get a job to take up their excess free time. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > To: "'Spridgets'" > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:01 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... > > > http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 10:13:28 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:13:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Disagreements over Shepherd's Pie In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804230909m30b6bf15j9fb20ba3c8394228@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220084222181230298@earthlink.net> <5f00d9910804230909m30b6bf15j9fb20ba3c8394228@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804230913n134efb20pf3e6d0ce73f147ad@mail.gmail.com> You probably didn't get it cooked right.... ;-) Cheers! Jim On 4/23/08, derf wrote: > > Sheep tastes OK but I never developed a taste for shepherd. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 10:47:50 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:47:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804230912qc45d554yf573b2ba5abb4444@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <06fa01c8a561$c4ed5cc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Well, it wasn't me. At my age, they don't scream anymore... they laugh. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: Wm. Severin Thompson ; Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... Larry, It's just Flounder. You should know by now that every morning he does an internet google search for "loud sex".... Cheers!! Jim On 4/23/08, Larry Daniels wrote: Somebody seriously needs to get a job to take up their excess free time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Apr 23 10:49:51 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:49:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games Message-ID: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I'm signed up with the local LBC club to show Bugsy at the Scottish games in Woodland both days this weekend. Most of the club is Triumphs, so I've got to show the flag. Two days of huge hairy-chested, skirt wearing, beer-swilling, rock-tossing monsters with funny accents. Some of the guys drink beer too. Haggis for lunch and bagpipes for background music. Its kind of fun for an hour or two, but two days will be trying. The best reason to do these types of shows is to cultivate leads for the next project. People come up to you and say things like "My neighbor has one of those in his shed", or "I saw you here last year and brought this original Sprite Owner's manual to give you in case you were here again this year"(actually happened three years ago!). I told my wife that I wouldn't BUY another LBC, but you can see the loophole there, right? So I'll just eat my haggis, wipe the bugs off the paint now and again, and wait for the guy who's going to step up and say those magic words, "I'd just GIVE it to someone who would fix it up and drive it." Glen From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 11:42:38 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:42:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804230912qc45d554yf573b2ba5abb4444@mail.gmail.com> References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804230912qc45d554yf573b2ba5abb4444@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190804231042i1bd1a581k5ba9e099432db034@mail.gmail.com> Based on past posting, I think the query is "animal sex" or "deer sex". On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Larry, > > It's just Flounder. You should know by now that every morning he does an > internet google search for "loud sex".... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 11:44:52 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:44:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... In-Reply-To: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> Message-ID: <441250190804231044l29db6cd1o575f968d3aa01879@mail.gmail.com> Even funnier than the article is the add for the "Brett Favre" coffee table book. Hurry it is a limited time offer! On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/6djsb3 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:14:07 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:14:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games In-Reply-To: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804231114o6afae3eewb647dc2597830bef@mail.gmail.com> On 4/23/08, Glen Byrns wrote: > > Two days of huge hairy-chested, skirt wearing, beer-swilling, > rock-tossing monsters with funny accents. Aside from the skirts you've just described Oklahoma...... ;-) "I'd just GIVE it to someone who would fix it up and drive it." Okay. Just give 'em my email..... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 23 12:16:34 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:16:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... References: <00e501c8a542$32f4fcc0$98def640$@com> <069601c8a54a$5bab3910$6401a8c0@Larry> <43840a7e0804230912qc45d554yf573b2ba5abb4444@mail.gmail.com> <441250190804231042i1bd1a581k5ba9e099432db034@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <072301c8a56e$2a067130$6401a8c0@Larry> I think just reading his Google History would get you arrested in several states. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Gilroy To: Jim Johnson Cc: Larry Daniels ; Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now I know what Larry's been doing... Based on past posting, I think the query is "animal sex" or "deer sex". On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: Larry, It's just Flounder. You should know by now that every morning he does an internet google search for "loud sex".... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 23 12:21:07 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:21:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804231114o6afae3eewb647dc2597830bef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Did you want to add a gender to that description? ----Original Message Follows---- On 4/23/08, Glen Byrns wrote: > > Two days of huge hairy-chested, skirt wearing, beer-swilling, > rock-tossing monsters with funny accents. From shelden3 at pldi.net Wed Apr 23 12:25:30 2008 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:25:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804231114o6afae3eewb647dc2597830bef@mail.gmail.com> References: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0804231114o6afae3eewb647dc2597830bef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10191.164.58.184.10.1208975130.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> no No Jim...those are the yahoo's up there in Kansas you are thinking about. This state can't put on a decent Highland game. Charlie Non skirt wearing, rock-tossing but does have an accecnt/Beer Swilling kinda guy! > On 4/23/08, Glen Byrns wrote: >> >> Two days of huge hairy-chested, skirt wearing, beer-swilling, >> rock-tossing monsters with funny accents. > > > Aside from the skirts you've just described Oklahoma...... ;-) > > "I'd just GIVE it to someone who would fix it up and drive it." > > > Okay. Just give 'em my email..... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City > Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, > 2008!! > For info and registration... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as shelden3 at pldi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Wed Apr 23 12:28:33 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:28:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games In-Reply-To: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080423132541.03a37838@nosimport.com> In a month I'm running a curling bonspiel with golf as 1 of the draws, and caber tossing as a tie breaker. Skirts and beer swilling required. No cars, no haggis, maybe shepherd's pie, though. Peter C. == At 11:49 AM 4/23/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: >I'm signed up with the local LBC club to show Bugsy at the Scottish games in >Woodland both days this weekend. Most of the club is Triumphs, so I've got to >show the flag. Two days of huge hairy-chested, skirt wearing, beer-swilling, >rock-tossing monsters with funny accents. Some of the guys drink beer too. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:38:53 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:38:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know if titles go with the Bugeyes? What do you think they will get for them? Linda On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:04 AM, brian S wrote: > If we'd only known about it sooner, that'd be a GREAT idea, Bill. > > Just to add a little more info, > > > IIRC, all the engines are 948s. A race motor or 2 in there. About 10 > smooth > case tranny's too. > > Lots of carbs', doors heads and other parts not shown. > > The Red and white Bugeye's that are indoors are in pretty good shape body > wise. > > There's a lot of sheet metal working stuff as that was the business that > he > was in for most of his life. > > There was a walk in Blasting booth last time I was there. > > And as you can see, several cabinets full of nuts bolts hardware and such. > > He was a great tinkerer and restored quite a few vehicles. Looks like the > few > that were done got sold already. > > Hope they all get to a good home, > > as I'd hate to see alot of that stuff go to a junkyard.. > > Wish I'd known about it sooner. > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 > > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > > > > > Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, > > cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to mention > > all the fun! > > > > brian S wrote: > > > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > > > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Back to work after baby how do you know when you re ready? > > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 > 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:42:37 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:42:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804231142j326d9819wf6126a7d3ca4c56f@mail.gmail.com> The site says absentee bids accepted : ) Lin On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Does anyone know if titles go with the Bugeyes? What do you think they > will get for them? > Linda > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:04 AM, brian S wrote: > > > If we'd only known about it sooner, that'd be a GREAT idea, Bill. > > > > Just to add a little more info, > > > > > > IIRC, all the engines are 948s. A race motor or 2 in there. About 10 > > smooth > > case tranny's too. > > > > Lots of carbs', doors heads and other parts not shown. > > > > The Red and white Bugeye's that are indoors are in pretty good shape > > body > > wise. > > > > There's a lot of sheet metal working stuff as that was the business that > > he > > was in for most of his life. > > > > There was a walk in Blasting booth last time I was there. > > > > And as you can see, several cabinets full of nuts bolts hardware and > > such. > > > > He was a great tinkerer and restored quite a few vehicles. Looks like > > the few > > that were done got sold already. > > > > Hope they all get to a good home, > > > > as I'd hate to see alot of that stuff go to a junkyard.. > > > > Wish I'd known about it sooner. > > > > Brian S. > > > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 > > > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > > > > > > > > Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, > > > cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to > > mention > > > all the fun! > > > > > > brian S wrote: > > > > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > > > > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Back to work after baby how do you know when you re ready? > > > > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 > > 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 12:54:59 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget Calendars reminder! Message-ID: <43840a7e0804231154m5015c353oc2b60899c1052149@mail.gmail.com> All, David Lieb, under extreme torture (not water boarding - LBC oil boarding!), has agreed to produce a 2009 Sprite-Midget Calendar similar to the 2008 calendar that over 100 of you purchased. Send your digital pictures (highest resolution possible) to Spridget.Calendar at gmail.com Last year David was able to get every picture sent in onto the calendar. However, the calendar was so popular that he can't promise that this year though he will try his best. For those that have seen the 2008 calendar, these aren't "show car" pictures. They include racers, daily drivers, restoration projects, the works. Don't forget to include your name and maybe a very short description of your picture. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 13:17:36 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:17:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Check the listing again, but IIRC, only a few of them have titles. Brad On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Does anyone know if titles go with the Bugeyes? What do you think they > will > get for them? > Linda > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:04 AM, brian S wrote: > > > If we'd only known about it sooner, that'd be a GREAT idea, Bill. > > > > Just to add a little more info, > > > > > > IIRC, all the engines are 948s. A race motor or 2 in there. About 10 > > smooth > > case tranny's too. > > > > Lots of carbs', doors heads and other parts not shown. > > > > The Red and white Bugeye's that are indoors are in pretty good shape > body > > wise. > > > > There's a lot of sheet metal working stuff as that was the business that > > he > > was in for most of his life. > > > > There was a walk in Blasting booth last time I was there. > > > > And as you can see, several cabinets full of nuts bolts hardware and > such. > > > > He was a great tinkerer and restored quite a few vehicles. Looks like > the > > few > > that were done got sold already. > > > > Hope they all get to a good home, > > > > as I'd hate to see alot of that stuff go to a junkyard.. > > > > Wish I'd known about it sooner. > > > > Brian S. > > > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 > > > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > > > > > > > > Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, > > > cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to > mention > > > all the fun! > > > > > > brian S wrote: > > > > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > > > > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Back to work after baby how do you know when you re ready? > > > > > http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 > > 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Apr 23 14:23:48 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] soda blasting In-Reply-To: <205cef430804230531g400ea1cftf02dcc443ec96faf@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804230531g400ea1cftf02dcc443ec96faf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480F9AD4.9030705@b2systems.com> do have to rinse. Long answer is that Soda requires a different sized nozzle and more volume (I think) than a normal sandblaster gives you, you can get kits to convert a sandblaster to soda but they are just $30-40 worth of parts that you are charged over a $100 for. I don't know what the parts are so I can't help you on converting. I just know the internals are slightly different and the nozzles different. If you use a sandblaster you will waste all your Soda in minutes or even quicker. After blasting, the beauty of Soda is that you can wait a few days to coat the steel, Soda will leave a protective finish on that will protect a few days (they say weeks but in my garage about 4 or 5 days) and yes you must wash it off prior to painting. It is very environmently friendly but will kill grass and vegetation by raising the pH of the soil to a point the grass dies, it comes back very quickly after the first good rain. I have not killed any lawn or the wife's roses but I have damaged the lawn a few times where it turned yellow and looked like it was dying. The rinse is done with plenty of clean water or since I don't like applying lots of water to a unpainted metal surface you can also wipe with a moist rag using a mixture of water and vinegar to neutralize. I have been told it can "stain" auto paint jobs but it has not hurt any of my cars. I much prefer Soda over sandblasting. mike Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Can soda blasting be applied with a small hand held sand blaster gun the > kind with the small container attached? Also as I understand it once you > soda blast you will need to hose off the metal with plain water, is that > correct? After this is done can I apply an enamel paint for the frame of an > auto? I won't be doing this to my Sprite (but I may if I like the effect I > may in the future) but to another vehicle that is pretty bad shape and I > wanted to understand if I need to apply any other product to the bare metal > after the soda blasting. Being I have never soda blasted before any tips > will help and I have heard it doesn't hurt the environment and leaves a nice > clean surface. > Thanks Linda > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Wed Apr 23 14:49:22 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:49:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Questions on Changing the Oil Pan.... Message-ID: <480F3E62.5674.10A09F5@dmg.bossig.com> The front half of the oil pan on my beast is badly dented (DPO). I have acquired a used spare. It's rusty, needs cleaning and painting but otherwise it's straight. Q1. Can the pan be dropped on a MKIII wothout removing anything else?? Q2. Is it a just case of a new paper gasket and bolting the new one up? Q3. Or will I have to do something special about the two rounded bits at each end.. (a bad description, but I'm not that techical with names!!) TIA -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Apr 23 15:13:04 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:13:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Questions on Changing the Oil Pan.... References: <480F3E62.5674.10A09F5@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000401c8a586$d7ead030$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The rounded bits are part of the gasket seal for the pan. It can be done from below if the two Allen screws in the bottom of the front plate are the correct length and don't protrude too much. The pan will hang up if those two screws stick through the front plate too far. Be sure to clean the block and main bearing contact surfaces with a bit of laquer thinner on a rag to get a good seal from the gasket sealer you will be liberally applying. I would swap out the crescent seals as well as the pan edge gaskets since its hard to get the old cork (or rubber) clean enough to stick well to the gasket sealer. I've used both the rubber and the cork main seals with both rubber and paper pan gaskets. All seemed to seal well enough if clean and used with sealer. I use Form-a-gasket #2 non-hardening out of habit. Works well enough, every store has it, hasn't let me down. I'm sure most any decent gasket sealer will do the job. A nut driver handle with a long extension and a 7/16" shallow socket is a great help in getting the whole mess snugged up in a hurry. Glen > The front half of the oil pan on my beast is badly dented (DPO). > I have acquired a used spare. It's rusty, needs cleaning and painting but > otherwise it's straight. > > Q1. Can the pan be dropped on a MKIII wothout removing anything else?? > Q2. Is it a just case of a new paper gasket and bolting the new one up? > Q3. Or will I have to do something special about the two rounded bits at > each end.. (a bad description, but I'm not that techical with names!!) > > TIA > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Apr 23 15:32:52 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Questions on Changing the Oil Pan.... In-Reply-To: <000401c8a586$d7ead030$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <480F3E62.5674.10A09F5@dmg.bossig.com> <000401c8a586$d7ead030$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080423162552.03b06fc0@nosimport.com> To add to Glen's mail. Wear goggles... oil will drip while you're there. If you're bored, take a look at the #4 rod bearings... prolly want changing. I use a 7/16 1/4" drive socket with a piece of paper or gum or some sort of filler in it so the screws are longer. I find a jack under the pan to be helpful holding it tight against the block. Change the corks (don't trim) or use the rubber if available. (1275s only, I believe) Peter C == At 04:13 PM 4/23/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: >The rounded bits are part of the gasket seal for the pan. It can be done >from below if the two Allen screws in the bottom of the front plate are the >correct length and don't protrude too much. The pan will hang up if those >two screws stick through the front plate too far. Be sure to clean the >block and main bearing contact surfaces with a bit of laquer thinner on a >rag to get a good seal from the gasket sealer you will be liberally >applying. I would swap out the crescent seals as well as the pan edge >gaskets since its hard to get the old cork (or rubber) clean enough to stick >well to the gasket sealer. I've used both the rubber and the cork main >seals with both rubber and paper pan gaskets. All seemed to seal well >enough if clean and used with sealer. I use Form-a-gasket #2 non-hardening >out of habit. Works well enough, every store has it, hasn't let me down. >I'm sure most any decent gasket sealer will do the job. >A nut driver handle with a long extension and a 7/16" shallow socket is a >great help in getting the whole mess snugged up in a hurry. > >Glen > > > > The front half of the oil pan on my beast is badly dented (DPO). > > I have acquired a used spare. It's rusty, needs cleaning and painting but > > otherwise it's straight. > > > > Q1. Can the pan be dropped on a MKIII wothout removing anything else?? > > Q2. Is it a just case of a new paper gasket and bolting the new one up? > > Q3. Or will I have to do something special about the two rounded bits at > > each end.. (a bad description, but I'm not that techical with names!!) > > > > TIA > > > > -- > > Dave G. KK7SS From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Apr 23 16:49:43 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:49:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Along the auction lines...LBC statesmen In-Reply-To: <86338.11925.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <86338.11925.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron: Jim Carson is a long-time member of the MG Vintage Racers group. He has been racing for at least 50 years. When I lived on the fringes of Philadelphia, Jim and I lived in the same town. He was an early pioneer in the "foreign car" scene that spread like a slow-growing tumor across this country in the 1950's and started what used to be called Carson-Petit Mercedes Benz (and other marques at various times) out on the Philly "main line." I almost bought a Peugeot 503 from him back in the '80s. He has to be in his 90's by now but I think I saw him racing at Watkins Glen not more than 2-3 years ago. He was an early member of the Delaware Valley Chapter of the MG-T Register and racing partners with Otto Linton, another old coot from the early days of post-war amateur racing. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 7:41 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Along the auction lines...LBC statesmen I had the pleasure of working with one of the most brilliant software people I've met this week, and when he walked into my office he nearly screamed "Who's Bugeye is that?" in reference to a large picture hanging that Jeff Porasik gave me for Christmas last year of our cars going through Turn 6 at Blackhawk Farms. It turns out his wife's uncle has been racing an MG-TC since 1948 (Peter asked how many times he's beaten it). He's also had just about every post war MG, along with Jags, Healeys, and a Siata (!!!!). The gentleman finally hung up his racing suit a few years ago, but his name is Jim Carson. Upon googling, I found him associated with the PVGP and other VSCCA events. His health is slipping a bit, and he has started selling off some of his collection. If anyone knows Jim and can tell me anything about his history in racing, I would greatly appreciate. From the brief stories his nephew in-law told me, sounds like quite a guy. Ron ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 16:55:58 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:55:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Questions on Changing the Oil Pan.... In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080423162552.03b06fc0@nosimport.com> References: <480F3E62.5674.10A09F5@dmg.bossig.com> <000401c8a586$d7ead030$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20080423162552.03b06fc0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804231555w4c3f8aceha065111c9e199280@mail.gmail.com> Is that the same for the 1275 motor on the MKII body? Will I have enough room to drop the pan it sure looks tight? Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com.lgrunthaner On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Peter C wrote: > To add to Glen's mail. > Wear goggles... oil will drip while you're there. > If you're bored, take a look at the #4 rod bearings... prolly want > changing. > I use a 7/16 1/4" drive socket with a piece of paper or gum or some > sort of filler in it so the screws are longer. > I find a jack under the pan to be helpful holding it tight against the > block. > Change the corks (don't trim) or use the rubber if available. (1275s > only, I believe) > > Peter C > == > > At 04:13 PM 4/23/2008, Glen Byrns wrote: > >The rounded bits are part of the gasket seal for the pan. It can be done > >from below if the two Allen screws in the bottom of the front plate are > the > >correct length and don't protrude too much. The pan will hang up if > those > >two screws stick through the front plate too far. Be sure to clean the > >block and main bearing contact surfaces with a bit of laquer thinner on a > >rag to get a good seal from the gasket sealer you will be liberally > >applying. I would swap out the crescent seals as well as the pan edge > >gaskets since its hard to get the old cork (or rubber) clean enough to > stick > >well to the gasket sealer. I've used both the rubber and the cork main > >seals with both rubber and paper pan gaskets. All seemed to seal well > >enough if clean and used with sealer. I use Form-a-gasket #2 > non-hardening > >out of habit. Works well enough, every store has it, hasn't let me down. > >I'm sure most any decent gasket sealer will do the job. > >A nut driver handle with a long extension and a 7/16" shallow socket is a > >great help in getting the whole mess snugged up in a hurry. > > > >Glen > > > > > > > The front half of the oil pan on my beast is badly dented (DPO). > > > I have acquired a used spare. It's rusty, needs cleaning and painting > but > > > otherwise it's straight. > > > > > > Q1. Can the pan be dropped on a MKIII wothout removing anything else?? > > > Q2. Is it a just case of a new paper gasket and bolting the new one > up? > > > Q3. Or will I have to do something special about the two rounded bits > at > > > each end.. (a bad description, but I'm not that techical with names!!) > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > -- > > > Dave G. KK7SS > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Jpp963 at aol.com Wed Apr 23 17:43:29 2008 From: Jpp963 at aol.com (Jpp963 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:43:29 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Chico Brit show Message-ID: Glen - I was on I-5 Sunday afternoon driving from Ashland, OR to San Francisco. Lots of Classic American iron going north and south, seemed like there might have been something going on in the Redding area. Did pass a jacked up MM Traveller with the license plate "MORZUKI", guessing it's on a Samurai frame? Was that vehicle at the Chico show? Pete G. North Haven, CT **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851) From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 17:44:05 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:44:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] soda blasting In-Reply-To: <480F9AD4.9030705@b2systems.com> References: <205cef430804230531g400ea1cftf02dcc443ec96faf@mail.gmail.com> <480F9AD4.9030705@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <205cef430804231644k637ae826xa74e0c19f8e750f9@mail.gmail.com> Mike, I read some links saying it will remove rust and others say it doesn't were you able to remover any rust with it? Thanks Linda On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > do have to rinse. > > Long answer is that Soda requires a different sized nozzle and more volume > (I think) than a normal sandblaster gives you, you can get kits to convert a > sandblaster to soda but they are just $30-40 worth of parts that you are > charged over a $100 for. I don't know what the parts are so I can't help you > on converting. I just know the internals are slightly different and the > nozzles different. If you use a sandblaster you will waste all your Soda in > minutes or even quicker. > > After blasting, the beauty of Soda is that you can wait a few days to coat > the steel, Soda will leave a protective finish on that will protect a few > days (they say weeks but in my garage about 4 or 5 days) and yes you must > wash it off prior to painting. It is very environmently friendly but will > kill grass and vegetation by raising the pH of the soil to a point the grass > dies, it comes back very quickly after the first good rain. I have not > killed any lawn or the wife's roses but I have damaged the lawn a few times > where it turned yellow and looked like it was dying. The rinse is done with > plenty of clean water or since I don't like applying lots of water to a > unpainted metal surface you can also wipe with a moist rag using a mixture > of water and vinegar to neutralize. I have been told it can "stain" auto > paint jobs but it has not hurt any of my cars. > > I much prefer Soda over sandblasting. > > mike > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > List, > > Can soda blasting be applied with a small hand held sand blaster gun the > > kind with the small container attached? Also as I understand it once you > > soda blast you will need to hose off the metal with plain water, is that > > correct? After this is done can I apply an enamel paint for the frame of > > an > > auto? I won't be doing this to my Sprite (but I may if I like the effect > > I > > may in the future) but to another vehicle that is pretty bad shape and I > > wanted to understand if I need to apply any other product to the bare > > metal > > after the soda blasting. Being I have never soda blasted before any tips > > will help and I have heard it doesn't hurt the environment and leaves a > > nice > > clean surface. > > Thanks Linda > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Apr 23 17:49:26 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:49:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] soda blasting In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231644k637ae826xa74e0c19f8e750f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804230531g400ea1cftf02dcc443ec96faf@mail.gmail.com> <480F9AD4.9030705@b2systems.com> <205cef430804231644k637ae826xa74e0c19f8e750f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480FCB06.20601@b2systems.com> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Mike, > I read some links saying it will remove rust and others say it doesn't > were you able to remover any rust with it? > Thanks Linda No, it does not remove rust, if you stay long enough on the rusty spot, you will discolor it and eventually you will start to remove it but I think it would be faster with a soft toothbrush. It removed paint like crazy though and I have used to remove really mild surface rust but nothing worse than that. You need something courser and rougher for rust, Soda's strong point is removal of the paint on the frame or in my case a flimsy aluminum body. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Apr 23 18:24:13 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:24:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A update 04-23 References: <062401c8a4c4$4108f330$0200a8c0@Workstation1> <009d01c8a555$197e9b30$5f73d1d8@DDZ01771> Message-ID: <00c501c8a5a1$86564ea0$78006f47@DBKF4T81> I've been in touch with Paul on a regular basis and he seems to be doing fairly well. He's still staying at his girlfriend's house in Salem, which is about an hour south of Portland. They've been coming up to Portland 2-3 times a week, mostly for doctor's visits. Depending on the day's energy level (once in a while the medications can make him really "fuzzy") he's been also able to do the occasional Morrisservice-related side trip, mostly ordering parts he needs from his machinist and that sort of thing. He's not yet in the position to do much in the way of physical activity but is able to keep track of a lot of little details in his head. I consider this a good thing. Basically, he wants to be able to start transitioning back into some degee of productivity as soon as prudently possible. As a side note, given his energy levels, answering emails and keeping up with the lists has become a lower priority; he can only sit at the computer for 10-20 minutes at a time. So, if you have a pressing question feel free to route it through me and I will bring it to his attention. As another side note, Paul has probably been calling me more often than I have been calling him. I've developed woes and maladies of my own and am, right now, only semi-mobile. If he hasn't heard from me for a day or so he calls to see if I am doing okay, if he and Lillis can do anything for me on a trip to Portland, etc., etc. That's the kind of people they are. And, although he as significant difficulty in articulating it, Paul is also extremely appreciative of the support he's received from the fine folks on the lists. I'll keep you posted of further developments as they occur. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Dillon And last but not least can someone update us on Paul A.? . __,_._,___ From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Apr 23 19:31:48 2008 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:31:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage Message-ID: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> List, Other than a rotisserie body job on a Spridget is it advisable to paint the undercarriage with POR 15 http://www.por15.com/prodinfo.asp?grp=1&dept=1 I have been reading a lot about it and it is supposed to be great stuff for the under body of cars & tractors. I found this great video on the VW forums of this needle tool to chisel off the old undercoating on my VW bus and wanted to share it with the group, for those with Spridget's with undercoating. They say it works on removing undercoating better than the gasket scraper. They it is suggested to paint with POE15, the paint loos so good I'd like to put it on my Sprite too. Has anyone ever used it if so do you thin it with for a sprayer or is this some thick brush on product? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIjKBBbl2po http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93200-93299/93224.gif Linda From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 23 19:45:48 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:45:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That doesn't look like undercoating, but it does come off easy. The next video shows how to apply undercoating without cleaning the underside of the car or masking off the exhaust. I don't believe in any of these products, but maybe POR-15 would sort of work if you took the time and effort to do all of the recommended prep and applied all of the layers of all of their products, but it seems like a lot more work than just doing it the hard way. BZ From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Apr 23 20:29:33 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:29:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011501c8a5b3$085f9530$191ebf90$@net> POR 15 is crap... Try and get it to look as smooth as they show you can be done. ANY change in the humidity level while applying it and it gets foggy or worse yet runs like really, really, really thin water. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+60bugeye=cebridge.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:46 PM To: Linda Grunthaner; Spridgeteers Subject: Re: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage That doesn't look like undercoating, but it does come off easy. The next video shows how to apply undercoating without cleaning the underside of the car or masking off the exhaust. I don't believe in any of these products, but maybe POR-15 would sort of work if you took the time and effort to do all of the recommended prep and applied all of the layers of all of their products, but it seems like a lot more work than just doing it the hard way. BZ You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1393 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1393 - Release Date: 4/23/2008 8:12 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Apr 23 21:17:00 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:17:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish Games In-Reply-To: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000c01c8a562$149471f0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <480FFBAC.5060700@comcast.net> Glen Byrns wrote: > The best reason to do these types > of shows is to cultivate leads for the next project. Ah yes, Just stopping a stores can generate a free parts car or 2. And like you said, parts seem to appear at my door because people see the cars outside. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Apr 23 21:33:43 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:33:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <480FFF97.4070609@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Other than a rotisserie body job on a Spridget is it advisable to paint the > undercarriage with POR 15 Avoid this crap, it doesn't do anything for rust, I have pictures of bumper irons painted with Piss On Rust and they have been inside and they rusted more. I had a Sprite floor fall out because I used Piss On Rust and the rust ate it's way along, not where the paint was but under the paint til the floor fell out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Apr 23 21:43:41 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:43:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Toe in? Message-ID: <481001ED.8040708@comcast.net> Saturday I took the 67 (my kids took the 58 & 59) to a local LBC show. It was about a 100 mile round trip day. Other than some fuel issues on the 58, all went well. Today I took the 67 to the Dentist and notice the steering wheel was not centered like it was before Saturdays trip. I know it was centered when I left home Saturday and it has been centered since I finished the car a couple months ago. So why is it off center? Also checking the toe in which was set at 1/16 IN, was now 1/2" OUT. I reset the toe tonight to 1/16 in and my steering wheel is straight again. What caused it to go out so much? Yes this is the same side with the effed up camber but I did have it reasonably close with an offset urethane bushing which I did pin so it did not roll to the low end. It's still pinned and where I set it. The wheel is leaning way out again at the bottom again. I know I didn't bend the frame anymore than it was already bent. All bushings are new, car has about 400 miles on it. This is a constantly changing left front wheel. I also learned that my genuine BMC wheel embellishers make an awful whistle noise at 75-80 mph. Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Apr 24 06:05:43 2008 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:05:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocker Switch R&R Message-ID: <6o4ucu$2u5ctn@email.mtu.edu> I started to work on a rocker switch (R&R) from a Midget that was in a bunch of junk parts my cousin sold me. The particular switch is the one with the headlight symbol. I found that there is a great variety of interior mechanisms as to how they work switch to switch. This one has a tiny bar bell that rolls on brass rails and makes or breaks the circuit. I think I lost an interior switch part. I have the bar bell, a short spring (about 3/8"), and two plastic buttons that appear to go on each end of the spring. Should there be a long spring too? I carefully put all the parts in a zip lock bag, but you know little parts have a way of disappearing. . . . . Tried to find a web site dealing with switches, but couldn't find one. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Apr 24 06:43:52 2008 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:43:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction In-Reply-To: <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> References: <480D308C.9090607@comcast.net> <480EC092.80205@gmail.com> <205cef430804231138t7cb76aa6y10512cd9d523cf17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Linda, I don't think there are any titles for the Bugeyes, I could be wring tho. None have been on the road for at least 20 years. How much will they go for is probably dependent on how many Spridgeteers show up. :-). I doubt more than $1000 each tho for the 2 "good ones" ya never know. Funny, site says there are 6, but only pics of 5. There was a totally trashed black one last time I was there, maybe they included that one. I wish I could remember if he had Bugeye seats in that stash, I could use some. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:38:53 -0400 From: grunthaner at gmail.com To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite and more auction CC: spridgets at autox.team.net Does anyone know if titles go with the Bugeyes? What do you think they will get for them? Linda On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:04 AM, brian S wrote: If we'd only known about it sooner, that'd be a GREAT idea, Bill. Just to add a little more info, IIRC, all the engines are 948s. A race motor or 2 in there. About 10 smooth case tranny's too. Lots of carbs', doors heads and other parts not shown. The Red and white Bugeye's that are indoors are in pretty good shape body wise. There's a lot of sheet metal working stuff as that was the business that he was in for most of his life. There was a walk in Blasting booth last time I was there. And as you can see, several cabinets full of nuts bolts hardware and such. He was a great tinkerer and restored quite a few vehicles. Looks like the few that were done got sold already. Hope they all get to a good home, as I'd hate to see alot of that stuff go to a junkyard.. Wish I'd known about it sooner. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:52:34 -0700 > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Move the OSHIT to the auction. A bunch of OSHIT guys, several trucks, > cash and you have the making of a bunch of future OSHITs not to mention > all the fun! > > brian S wrote: > > I was going to try to get to the OSHIT Sat, > > but I may have to try and make it to this instead. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby how do you know when you re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797 498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=word_slugger_wlhm_admod_april08 From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Apr 24 07:10:28 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:10:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: <480FFF97.4070609@comcast.net> References: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> <480FFF97.4070609@comcast.net> Message-ID: > Avoid this crap, it doesn't do anything for rust, So what is the consensus on paint for the undercarriage? It makes sense that we do not want something that is so waterproof that it retains water leaking from above. How about an annual treatment with something oily or greasy? Engines don't rust. Waxoil spray? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 07:32:37 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:32:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> <480FFF97.4070609@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804240632n55a2bd19k7419f4f61f24ad35@mail.gmail.com> A good primer and a good coat of paint are probably best. Undercoating isn't bad, either. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 08:02:04 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430804231831h590e34faq65b573fd2c0cff74@mail.gmail.com> <480FFF97.4070609@comcast.net> Message-ID: IF you drive your car reguarly, your engine and transmission make sure you get a DAILY application of something oily, on the underside of your car...... .......and rear axle, and gas tank, and bumper, and...... LOL On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > Avoid this crap, it doesn't do anything for rust, > > So what is the consensus on paint for the undercarriage? It makes sense > that we do not want something that is so waterproof that it retains water > leaking from above. How about an annual treatment with something oily or > greasy? Engines don't rust. Waxoil spray? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dmg at bossig.com Thu Apr 24 08:46:14 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:46:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] WORLD EVENTS MAP - UPDATES EVERY FEW MINUTES In-Reply-To: <003e01c8a605$4f317df0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> References: <0b6f01c8a603$3614baa0$0200a8c0@Workstation1>, <003e01c8a605$4f317df0$0d01a8c0@MAIN> Message-ID: <48103AC6.28553.17F29D@dmg.bossig.com> He who controls the media, controls the news.... dmg On 24 Apr 2008 at 13:18, Guy Weller wrote: >> Interesting! >> Russia and most of China seem to be peaceful nations. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Apr 24 11:05:09 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:05:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Ad, Non LBC Message-ID: <5f00d9910804241005k665ca3f8w7eb48f9bc8aeb50e@mail.gmail.com> This guy is the Indian version of some listers. You figure out which listers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc5teaGIzi4 From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Apr 24 18:23:54 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:23:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler Message-ID: <643CF92699814416937AE660F2A4BEFC@Home> My oil cooler has a hole in it at the base one of the fittings, probably from twisting a frozen nut. It may be weldable if it could be gotten clean enough. Any thoughts? Also, the hoses that came on it are very short, maybe because they have been cut in the middle and pieced back together or because they are not standard. I would rather have longer ones, but the catalogue does not specify lengths. Are there choices in lengths or DIY kits that can be cut as desired? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 18:30:02 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler In-Reply-To: <643CF92699814416937AE660F2A4BEFC@Home> Message-ID: <916669.94386.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Michael, Use the lines from an MGB, long enough to run them along the inside fender well. Makes for a much neater appearance.... Fittings are all the same. I'd just replace the oil cooler... Bob --- On Thu, 4/24/08, Michael Rowe wrote: > From: Michael Rowe > Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 8:23 PM > My oil cooler has a hole in it at the base one of the > fittings, probably from twisting a frozen nut. It may be > weldable if it could be gotten clean enough. Any thoughts? > > Also, the hoses that came on it are very short, maybe > because they have been cut in the middle and pieced back > together or because they are not standard. I would rather > have longer ones, but the catalogue does not specify > lengths. Are there choices in lengths or DIY kits that can > be cut as desired? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Apr 24 18:40:45 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:40:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Message-ID: <042520080040.21012.4811288D00038F9C000052142215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And once again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of the expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her up and found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to the outlet pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through the system hitting the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of cycling back into the radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. From mikey at b2systems.com Thu Apr 24 18:56:33 2008 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:56:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <042520080040.21012.4811288D00038F9C000052142215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <042520080040.21012.4811288D00038F9C000052142215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48112C41.2040700@b2systems.com> ... What about the radiator cap ? have you pressure tested it or replaced it ? mike ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And once again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of the expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her up and found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to the outlet pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through the system hitting the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of cycling back into the radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Apr 24 19:15:44 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:15:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <48112C41.2040700@b2systems.com> References: <042520080040.21012.4811288D00038F9C000052142215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <48112C41.2040700@b2systems.com> Message-ID: <481130C0.6060204@frontiernet.net> First, every Spridget has a working temp gauge. It's called your right leg. Is the valve for your heating system open or closed? When it is open, it adds a little more area to allow for better engine cooling. If it's closed, after you open it, you will need to run your engine a few minutes, then add enough coolant to compensate. Kate >> Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 19:22:27 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Toe in? In-Reply-To: <481001ED.8040708@comcast.net> Message-ID: <11467.70508.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > What caused it to go out so much? > Yes this is the same side with the effed up camber I know we've talked about this and it probably is not an issue, but I had front coil that did not sit perfectly over the spring pan/cone, and it wandered enough to frustrate the hell out of me and do the same thing as yours. It cost me a set of tires every 2 race weekends for a while until we found it. Camber would change by itself. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 19:26:39 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Ad, Non LBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804241005k665ca3f8w7eb48f9bc8aeb50e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <737157.70738.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think I saw some Curry Bell wrappers in one shot of the bodywork. --- derf wrote: > This guy is the Indian version of some listers. You > figure out which listers. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc5teaGIzi4 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Apr 24 19:37:59 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:37:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help References: <042520080040.21012.4811288D00038F9C000052142215561264000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <02d301c8a674$ff5d4960$0201a8c0@midget> Ryan, To me that says that you have a leak in the radiator. It is a small leak, so you are still building up pressure and shifting coolant out to the expansion tank, but it sucks in air rather than pulling coolant back from the tank. David Lieb ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help > Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And > once again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of > the expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her > up and found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to > the outlet pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through > the system hitting the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of > cycling back into the radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have > no working temp gauge. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Apr 24 19:42:18 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:42:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Message-ID: <042520080142.18244.481136FA000DB283000047442215553894000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Kate and mike, I replaced the radiator cap with a 13 lbs one before i attemoted the thermostat change. That when I found out there was no thermostat and a bunch of rust wher it should have been. thats why i did the coolant flush after flushing the engine block and backflusshing the radiator with a garden hose. I had the heating valve open but the heat off. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Kate > First, every Spridget has a working temp gauge. It's called your right > leg. Is the valve for your heating system open or closed? When it is > open, it adds a little more area to allow for better engine cooling. > If it's closed, after you open it, you will need to run your engine a > few minutes, then add enough coolant to compensate. > > Kate > > > >> Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 19:43:14 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <02d301c8a674$ff5d4960$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <957365.63335.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David is on to something. The air can also cavitate your water pump very quickly, cause the sheet metal or plastic blades to fail big time, spit all the water onto the track and make Flounder nearly spin behind you. Check the water pump inlet hose and the edges of the flange for cracks at the bottom of the radiator too. They can suck air in and hose you, no pun intended. --- David Lieb wrote: > Ryan, > To me that says that you have a leak in the > radiator. It is a small leak, so > you are still building up pressure and shifting > coolant out to the expansion > tank, but it sucks in air rather than pulling > coolant back from the tank. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Apr 24 20:32:31 2008 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:32:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <042520080142.18244.481136FA000DB283000047442215553894000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <042520080142.18244.481136FA000DB283000047442215553894000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5B43324E-46CB-4ECE-87F2-5F1E08045B00@comcast.net> I have similar symptoms although not as severe.. my current diagnosis is the my radiator cap, as yours may be, is not actually sealing on the inner section. I noticed this because there is nice shiny brass for a section of the inner ring of the filler neck but not the entire way around. My guess is that the filler neck is not "square". Lester .. no, I haven't fixed mine either.. On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:42 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Kate and mike, > I replaced the radiator cap with a 13 lbs one before i attemoted the > thermostat change. That when I found out there was no thermostat > and a bunch of rust wher it should have been. thats why i did the > coolant flush after flushing the engine block and backflusshing the > radiator with a garden hose. I had the heating valve open but the > heat off. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Kate > >> First, every Spridget has a working temp gauge. It's called your >> right >> leg. Is the valve for your heating system open or closed? When it is >> open, it adds a little more area to allow for better engine cooling. >> If it's closed, after you open it, you will need to run your engine a >> few minutes, then add enough coolant to compensate. >> >> Kate From davriker at nwi.net Thu Apr 24 21:35:12 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chico Brit show References: Message-ID: <00fb01c8a685$5ec0e460$6600a8c0@dave> Redding has a car show called CoolApril Nites. That must have been last weekend. David ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chico Brit show > Glen - > I was on I-5 Sunday afternoon driving from Ashland, OR to San Francisco. > Lots of Classic American iron going north and south, seemed like there > might > have been something going on in the Redding area. Did pass a jacked up > MM > Traveller with the license plate "MORZUKI", guessing it's on a Samurai > frame? > Was that vehicle at the Chico show? > > Pete G. > North Haven, CT From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Apr 24 21:57:43 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:57:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <5B43324E-46CB-4ECE-87F2-5F1E08045B00@comcast.net> References: <042520080142.18244.481136FA000DB283000047442215553894000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <5B43324E-46CB-4ECE-87F2-5F1E08045B00@comcast.net> Message-ID: <99EA1D5B-8BC8-471A-A794-43736539BB69@mac.com> A couple of questions. What kind of cap is on the expansion tank, screw on or pressure cap like the radiator ? Is the over flow line below the cap or above it like the radiator? If it is the latter then the pressure cap should be on the over flow tank and a cap to just keep the coolant in should be on the radiator. In theory it should not make any difference but I found it did on my car. Having two pressure caps in the system just did not work. Also I have adapted a solid brass over flow tank from some where (1500?) to the bugeye so that may make a difference. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 24, 2008, at 7:32 PM, Lester wrote: > I have similar symptoms although not as severe.. my current diagnosis > is the my radiator cap, as yours may be, is not actually sealing on > the inner section. I noticed this because there is nice shiny brass > for a section of the inner ring of the filler neck but not the entire > way around. My guess is that the filler neck is not "square". > > Lester > > .. no, I haven't fixed mine either.. From james.f.juhas at snet.net Thu Apr 24 21:59:00 2008 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:59:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler Message-ID: <20080425045812.ED620187643@autox.team.net> There are several different engths of MGB oil cooler hoses, and different configurations of fittings. Order carefully. Jim 1957 MGA #311 -----Original Message----- From: Bob Van Kirk Subj: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler Date: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:30 pm Size: 1K To: Spridget Chat Group , Michael Rowe Michael, Use the lines from an MGB, long enough to run them along the inside fender well. Makes for a much neater appearance.... Fittings are all the same. I'd just replace the oil cooler... Bob --- On Thu, 4/24/08, Michael Rowe wrote: > From: Michael Rowe > Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 8:23 PM > My oil cooler has a hole in it at the base one of the > fittings, probably from twisting a frozen nut. It may be > weldable if it could be gotten clean enough. Any thoughts? > > Also, the hoses that came on it are very short, maybe > because they have been cut in the middle and pieced back > together or because they are not standard. I would rather > have longer ones, but the catalogue does not specify > lengths. Are there choices in lengths or DIY kits that can > be cut as desired? > > Michael Rowe > Long Island, NY > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ You are subscribed as james.f.juhas at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 24 23:01:48 2008 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler Message-ID: <806010.79649.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Michael, Jim is correct, there are different lengths and fittings for the MGB hoses, my error. It's been 15+ years since I put mine on. --- On Thu, 4/24/08, Jim Juhas wrote: > Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 11:59 PM > There are several different engths of MGB oil cooler hoses, > and different configurations of fittings. Order carefully. > > Jim > 1957 MGA #311 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bob Van Kirk > Subj: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Cooler > Date: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:30 pm > Size: 1K > To: Spridget Chat Group , > Michael Rowe > > Michael, > Use the lines from an MGB, long enough to run them along > the inside fender well. Makes for a much neater > appearance.... Fittings are all the same. I'd just > replace the oil cooler... > Bob > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 04:28:53 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting website Message-ID: www.trafficare.net I just saw this on the news, and thought that maybe one person on my lists could use this service. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 06:45:02 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:45:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem Message-ID: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well and your Spridgets are running great! My '79 has a problem that I have tinkered with for months but have never cracked the nut. It is a problem also that keeps the car off the road: no brake lights and no signal lights. The headlights and taillights work just fine. I have spent a lot of time on my knees pulling and reconnecting and soldering the wires in the boot, hoping to find that one disconnect that might be causing this malady. Just before I noticed the problem, I had replaced the engine after rebuilding the tranny, if that is a clue. I also found a 4-way connector that has 3 black wires and 1 RED wire running into it, but I don't think that is the problem. I think that is the product of a ham-fisted previous owner who had a piece of red wire instead of black. It runs into the harness (homemade--not mine) so I don't know yet where it goes. Any ideas? Is there a progression I should be going through to find the problem? Thanks for any input. --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 07:21:14 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <009d01c8a6d7$3c883cc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> David, Your best bet is to start with the appropriate wiring diagram for your car, and trace each circuit, from the tail lamps forward, until you find the fault. A simple, 12v test lamp will help you find out where you have power and where you don't. You may need a helper, to push the brake pedal. While I do NOT consider myself to be a "sparky" (electrical systems guy), I have had great results from using a very thorough, deliberate, systematic approach to finding electrical faults. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 7:45 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well and your Spridgets are running great! My '79 has a problem that I have tinkered with for months but have never cracked the nut. It is a problem also that keeps the car off the road: no brake lights and no signal lights. The headlights and taillights work just fine. I have spent a lot of time on my knees pulling and reconnecting and soldering the wires in the boot, hoping to find that one disconnect that might be causing this malady. Just before I noticed the problem, I had replaced the engine after rebuilding the tranny, if that is a clue. I also found a 4-way connector that has 3 black wires and 1 RED wire running into it, but I don't think that is the problem. I think that is the product of a ham-fisted previous owner who had a piece of red wire instead of black. It runs into the harness (homemade--not mine) so I don't know yet where it goes. Any ideas? Is there a progression I should be going through to find the problem? Thanks for any input. --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? _______________________________________________ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Fri Apr 25 07:30:20 2008 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:30:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Apr 25, 2008, at 8:45 AM, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > > > Any ideas? David, First, are all four lights affected? Front and rear? I would start by completely cleaning the fuse box contacts and fuse ends. Check to see if you have power coming out of the fuse box at all the contacts. Keep in mind some of the contacts will only be "live" with the key in the on position. (The headlights are not fused all the other lights are fused). I remove the fuse box and clean it by bead blasting the contacts. Also check the back of the box to make sure it is in good shape and the metal contacts are not coming in contact with the body of the car. If they are, a piece of roofing paper cut to fit under the fuse box will cure the problem until you can get another fuse box. Also make sure you have good grounds on everything. Next I would check to see if power is getting to the switch on the steering column and if it is coming back out of that switch at the proper places. Let me know what you find ;) Kevin From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 08:33:23 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:33:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <02d301c8a674$ff5d4960$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <00a501c8a6e1$51577e40$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ryan (and others having similar problems), Do yourself a favor, and have the cooling system pressure-tested, by someone who knows what they're doing. From what I've read, on this thread (and I confess to not reading all of it), it sounds suspiciously like a head gasket problem, to me. Anyway, you can spend a lot of time & money (parts & coolant) groping blindly for a cure, or you can just have it pressure-tested by a competent radiator shop, or trust-worthy repair shop and find out where the problem truly is. Spring is here. Don't waste your time trying to out-smart yourself (something we are ALL guilty of, at one time or another). Get to the root of the problem quickly (pressure-test), fix it, and enjoy driving it. Oh, yeah....one more thing: get that temp gauge fixed NOW, before you cook your engine. Engine rebuilds are a WHOLE lot more expensive than temp gauges. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:38 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Ryan, To me that says that you have a leak in the radiator. It is a small leak, so you are still building up pressure and shifting coolant out to the expansion tank, but it sucks in air rather than pulling coolant back from the tank. David Lieb ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help > Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And > once again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of > the expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her > up and found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to > the outlet pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through > the system hitting the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of > cycling back into the radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have > no working temp gauge. From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 08:37:37 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:37:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00a601c8a6e1$e89fd360$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Other than seeing a lot of misinformation on POR 15, from a couple of guys who obviously didn't get it right ;), did this question find a satisfactory answer.....Linda? Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 8:10 AM To: Spridgeteers Subject: Re: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage > Avoid this crap, it doesn't do anything for rust, So what is the consensus on paint for the undercarriage? It makes sense that we do not want something that is so waterproof that it retains water leaking from above. How about an annual treatment with something oily or greasy? Engines don't rust. Waxoil spray? Michael Rowe Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ From max at maxengland.com Fri Apr 25 09:27:40 2008 From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:27:40 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020 E040B@comcast.net> References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Hello everyone! I have a start up problem with my 1968 midget. when i turn the key to start the engine the starter motor turns but the engine doesnt spark up. It's only when I release the key that it does fire up. It's as though the plugs only made a spark at the exact moment when I release the key. It's not such a big issue as i always end up managing to fire up the engine, but i have to rate if i've held the key long enough before releasing it. Anybody had that problem before or has an idea where it could come from? Thanks a lot guys! Max > Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well and your Spridgets are running > great! > > My '79 has a problem that I have tinkered with for months but have never > cracked the nut. It is a problem also that keeps the car off the road: > no brake lights and no signal lights. The headlights and taillights work > just fine. > > I have spent a lot of time on my knees pulling and reconnecting and > soldering the wires in the boot, hoping to find that one disconnect that > might be causing this malady. Just before I noticed the problem, I had > replaced the engine after rebuilding the tranny, if that is a clue. I > also found a 4-way connector that has 3 black wires and 1 RED wire running > into it, but I don't think that is the problem. I think that is the > product of a ham-fisted previous owner who had a piece of red wire instead > of black. It runs into the harness (homemade--not mine) so I don't know > yet where it goes. > > Any ideas? Is there a progression I should be going through to find the > problem? Thanks for any input. > > --David C. > If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... > does that mean that one enjoys it? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as max at maxengland.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 25 09:37:05 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> <56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: <004001c8a6ea$38a40310$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I have a start up problem with my 1968 midget. when i turn the key to > start the engine the starter motor turns but the engine doesnt spark up. > It's only when I release the key that it does fire up. It's as though the > plugs only made a spark at the exact moment when I release the key. It's > not such a big issue as i always end up managing to fire up the engine, > but i have to rate if i've held the key long enough before releasing it. Max, It sounds like an issue with the ignition switch. You should be able to test it by using a hot wire to supply +12VDC to the red/white wire at the starter solenoid. This will kick in the starter, so please be sure that it is out of gear, e-brake is set, etc. If the ignition key is on, you should be able to start it up this way and tell whether you are getting spark while cranking (easily verified with a timing light). If you are getting spark while cranking this way, it is probably the switch, but I do not have a wiring diagram here to eliminate alternate diagnoses. 1968 Spridgets did not use a ballast, so there should be no bypass issues. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 09:37:12 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:37:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Message-ID: <042520081537.4215.4811FAA80005EEFD000010772215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> if it was a gasket wouldn't the coolant flow back into the radiator once cooled? I am seeing it full in the expansion tank. It seems to flow from radiator>engine>expansion tank>ground instead of back to the radiator. But I will have the compression test done. ideally today but if i have a potential valve gasket leak will that confuse the results? should I replace the valve gasket, have the compression test done, the potentially rip the engine apart and do the head gasket? I really am new to this level of repairs so I am clueless. Thanks Ryan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "vern at srvinet.com" > Ryan: I am surprised that no one seems to have suggested that this is > the classic symptom for a blown head gasket. Maybe I missed it. > Vapor from the combustion chambers push the coolant into the > expansion tank and you lose it. > Vern > > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > > >Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And once > again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of the > expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her up and > found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to the outlet > pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through the system hitting > the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of cycling back into the > radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > >You are subscribed as vern at srvinet.com > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > > > > > -- > See my > 59 bugeye > 78 MGB > 79 midget RB at: > > http://olsen.ispeedwireless.net/ From peter at nosimport.com Fri Apr 25 09:37:54 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:37:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> <56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com> Well, IF your car had a ballasted ignition system, that would be a symptom of a bad ballast resistor. You would not have a ballast resistor as original equipment on a 68. (a 78 does, however) Another possibility is if the starter solenoid has been changed recently, and mistakenly, to the 4 post variety (as used on post 74 models with ballasted ignition, then you would experience the same thing. Has any work been done recently on the car that you think might be unrelated? Peter C. =============== At 10:27 AM 4/25/2008, Maxime Slegers wrote: >Hello everyone! > >I have a start up problem with my 1968 midget. when i turn the key to >start the engine the starter motor turns but the engine doesnt spark up. >It's only when I release the key that it does fire up. It's as though the >plugs only made a spark at the exact moment when I release the key. It's >not such a big issue as i always end up managing to fire up the engine, >but i have to rate if i've held the key long enough before releasing it. > >Anybody had that problem before or has an idea where it could come from? > >Thanks a lot guys! > >Max From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 10:12:46 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:12:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <042520081537.4215.4811FAA80005EEFD000010772215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00b501c8a6ef$337ec640$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ryan, In a word: No. If the head gasket (NOT the "valve gasket") is leaking, it may be pressurizing the cooling system enough to blow the coolant out past the pressure cap on the expansion tank, while the engine is running. However, when the engine is shut off, if the valves for the combustion chamber with the gasket leak are closed, the cooling system will remain pressurized until the rad plug, or expansion tank pressure cap are opened. If one of the valves is open, there will be no vacuum or pressure to effect the cooling system, from that combustion chamber. The important thing to remember is to not do anything major (like pulling the head off) until a diagnosis is CONFIRMED by pressure-testing the system. But, like I mentioned in my earlier post, and as Vern says in his post, indications are of a head gasket leak. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 10:37 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help if it was a gasket wouldn't the coolant flow back into the radiator once cooled? I am seeing it full in the expansion tank. It seems to flow from radiator>engine>expansion tank>ground instead of back to the radiator. But I will have the compression test done. ideally today but if i have a potential valve gasket leak will that confuse the results? should I replace the valve gasket, have the compression test done, the potentially rip the engine apart and do the head gasket? I really am new to this level of repairs so I am clueless. Thanks Ryan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "vern at srvinet.com" > Ryan: I am surprised that no one seems to have suggested that this is > the classic symptom for a blown head gasket. Maybe I missed it. > Vapor from the combustion chambers push the coolant into the > expansion tank and you lose it. > Vern > > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > > >Okay, I have replaced the missing thermostat and did a coolant flush. And once > again after a long ride in traffic she was leaking antifreeze out of the > expansion bottle. After letting her cool for a few hours I opened her up and > found most of the radiator empty and the expansion bottle filled to the outlet > pipe. This seems to imply that the coolant is cyling through the system hitting > the expansion tank and then pouring out instead of cycling back into the > radiator. Now what? Oh and for further fun I have no working temp gauge. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Apr 25 10:13:37 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:13:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net><56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080425103323.039b3be0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <005001c8a6ef$51b685d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Another possibility is if the starter solenoid has been changed > recently, and mistakenly, to the 4 post variety (as used on post 74 > models with ballasted ignition, then you would experience the same thing. True. If this is the case, a jumper from the connection for the ballast to the connection for the coil should remedy it? David From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 10:16:35 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] how to pull the engine Message-ID: <892527.84818.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Group, I have a set of these and used them in the past. I never wrote about them as i thought the guy before me made them. But now that i see them for sale they may have been a factory or supplier item. Ebay Item number: 370045946592 Vigil --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Apr 25 10:17:48 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:17:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <56399.212.166.46.72.1209137260.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: > only when I release the key that it does fire up. Do you have a Pertronix ignition? Do you have a ballast resistor? From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Fri Apr 25 10:36:39 2008 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:36:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed conversion Message-ID: <20080425163642.302BC621C12@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> I am prepairing to do a 5 speed conversion to my BE. I am going to use the parts supplied by Paul Asgeirsson (I hope to anyway given Paul's illness) I have a question What clutch slave cyl is used in this setup. Datsun or Sprite ? Paul lists part #ADP-132 "slave cylinder cradle" I assume this is necessary. Thanks Herb Miller 1960 AN5 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 11:05:28 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:05:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] how to pull the engine In-Reply-To: <892527.84818.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <892527.84818.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used a set of these with great result when I installed my engine a few months ago. Brad On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:16 AM, wrote: > Group, > > I have a set of these and used them in the past. I never wrote about them > as i thought the guy before me made them. But now that i see them for sale > they may have been a factory or supplier item. > > Ebay > Item number: 370045946592 > > > > > Vigil > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Apr 25 12:44:19 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:44:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to pull the engine In-Reply-To: <892527.84818.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <892527.84818.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7C9D7BE3-9BB1-48B2-BA58-FC02DEF34A0F@mac.com> Group, I am resonably certain these were used by the factory to install the engine. Sometimes they put them in the car tool kit and other times did not. There was a set in the tool kit for my car. (Off the sales lot in 1960) Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:16 AM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > Group, > > I have a set of these and used them in the past. I never wrote > about them as i thought the guy before me made them. But now that i > see them for sale they may have been a factory or supplier item. > > Ebay > Item number: 370045946592 > > > > > Vigil > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 16:20:43 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:20:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <042520081537.4215.4811FAA80005EEFD000010772215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <042520081537.4215.4811FAA80005EEFD000010772215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4812593B.6040203@comcast.net> Ryan Are you coming to the Spring Oshit Saturday? Bring the car, Larry will push it if it doesn't make it ;) We will figure it out, we have head gaskets, radiators, and test equipment. Just bring an extra jug of water with you. Let Larry follow you for a bit to see it it's coolant smoke out the tail pipe or water coming from under the car. I'm an hour away and I have a trailer in my yard if you have any serious problems. Drive it here tomorrow. We'll fix it or if nothing else, we will happily part it out for you :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 16:30:49 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:30:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Electrical Problem In-Reply-To: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> References: <042520081245.3760.4811D24E0009D66000000EB02215578674C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48125B99.9050900@comcast.net> dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well and your Spridgets are running great! > > My '79 has a problem that I have tinkered with for months but have never cracked the nut. It is a problem also that keeps the car off the road: no brake lights and no signal lights. The headlights and taillights work just fine. > > Turn the key on, check for power of the fuse box on the green wires. If you have power there, check for a loose connection where the rear harness plugs into the main harness up under the dash on the right side, sort of in the glove box. Green wires are fused with the key on, powered from the key by a white wire. Brake lights are green & green/purple Signals are green & green/red or grn/white (left or right) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Apr 25 16:30:45 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] new cruise control Message-ID: <200804252230.m3PMUj3U016265@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> After another lister mentioned the Audiovox CSS-100 cruise control, I decided that would be a good thing for the long drive to come. Got one on the cheap from Amazon w/vacuum tank (turbo=scarce vacuum). The tight, short throttle bracket had to be re-fabricated and I had to cut open a small flap under the driveshaft to affix the magnet and sensor and add a vacuum port to the throttlebody. The wiring was easy and the instructions were complete. I just finished a test drive and it works well so far. I had to set the sensitivity to Normal instead of Small car so it would disengage more quickly when the clutch is pressed. I'm thinking I'm going to appreciate this thing a ton by the time I reach Missouri. Glen From kristi74midget at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 16:47:06 2008 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:47:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <4812593B.6040203@comcast.net> References: <042520081537.4215.4811FAA80005EEFD000010772215555884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <4812593B.6040203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4459DF47-5604-4A11-A9F5-FFE90251B959@comcast.net> Hey I get first dibs on the parts. He has the same year that I do!!! Kristi and Lambert On Apr 25, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ryan > > Are you coming to the Spring Oshit Saturday? > Bring the car, Larry will push it if it doesn't make it ;) > We will figure it out, we have head gaskets, radiators, and test > equipment. > Just bring an extra jug of water with you. Let Larry follow you for a > bit to see it it's coolant smoke out the tail pipe or water coming > from > under the car. > I'm an hour away and I have a trailer in my yard if you have any > serious > problems. > Drive it here tomorrow. We'll fix it or if nothing else, we will > happily > part it out for you :) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kristi74midget at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 25 16:57:07 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:57:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] gas gauge question... Message-ID: <4811FF53.3417.1BB7DC0@dmg.bossig.com> I have tried two different gas gauges in the beast ('65 MK III)... Both indicate 1/2 full when I know the tank is almost empty. I tried a gauge from a rubber bumper model and it just slowly goes up until it hits the peg at the Full mark. Is there anything I can try before I drop the tank? And if I drop the tank, what should I be aware of?? TIA -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 16:59:08 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:59:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Quote of the day.... Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804251559o4c16b6f7x4c6b6729eba8e344@mail.gmail.com> Quote of the Day........'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama From dmg at bossig.com Fri Apr 25 17:01:10 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:01:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 seat question... Message-ID: <48120046.3248.1BF3598@dmg.bossig.com> Does anyone have a picture of how the diaphram and 'hooks' are fitted onto the seat frame. there are holes on the top side of the squab frames... My seat squabs are just sitting on the floor pan!! Also, there is no sliding runners(?) ... the seats are just bolted to the floor... Is this correct?? Or should they slide/adjust? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 17:10:18 2008 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:10:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Imagination Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10804251610v66c59644r2391a49509f1084a@mail.gmail.com> I'm easily entertained http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If6gUDsEbkA From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Apr 25 17:31:46 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PDX Autojumble Message-ID: <179113404.20080425163146@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, just a reminder for those in the greater Portland Oregon area.. the annual swap meet is this SUNDAY at Montgomery Park in Portland, rain or shine. First All British event of the year. A chance to catch up with all those people who've been hibernating since last September.... .. At least i THINK its this weekend! usually the last sunday in april..sponsored my the pdx MG "T" club... NFI -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Death is 99 per cent fatal to laboratory rats. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Apr 25 17:43:19 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:43:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Message-ID: <042520082343.23247.48126C970007941400005ACF2214756402000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> I am going to try and get all the way there. i am not sure about taking the highway i was going to do some back roads that may take longer but aren't highway high rpm's. Or should just punt and take your directions to your place. AND NO you can't scavenge my parts you voltures...especially if you aren't even coming :-P thanks ryan -------------- Original message -------------- From: Frank Clarici > Ryan > > Are you coming to the Spring Oshit Saturday? > Bring the car, Larry will push it if it doesn't make it ;) > We will figure it out, we have head gaskets, radiators, and test equipment. > Just bring an extra jug of water with you. Let Larry follow you for a > bit to see it it's coolant smoke out the tail pipe or water coming from > under the car. > I'm an hour away and I have a trailer in my yard if you have any serious > problems. > Drive it here tomorrow. We'll fix it or if nothing else, we will happily > part it out for you :) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From max at maxengland.com Fri Apr 25 18:02:09 2008 From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:02:09 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] gas gauge question... In-Reply-To: <4811FF53.3417.1BB7DC0@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4811FF53.3417.1BB7DC0@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <48127101.2070104@maxengland.com> My gauge indicated 1/2 all the time. I dropped the tank (easier than i thought: lift the rear of the car, put a jack under the tank so it doesnt fall, take off the filler tube, unscrew the tank and take it off... oh yes, empty the tank first). I dismantled the sender unit and it had seized half way. Careful when taking the sender unit off: as mine had seized, the floater arm was perpendicular from the core unit and I struggled a bit to take the unit out of the tank. I managed though, so you should as well. I could loosen the float arm and now the gauge works fine. Hope this help Max Dave G. a icrit : > I have tried two different gas gauges in the beast ('65 MK III)... > Both indicate 1/2 full when I know the tank is almost empty. > I tried a gauge from a rubber bumper model and it just slowly goes up until > it hits the peg at the Full mark. > > Is there anything I can try before I drop the tank? > > And if I drop the tank, what should I be aware of?? > > TIA > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. > But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as max at maxengland.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 18:25:32 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:25:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] quote of the day Message-ID: <00e001c8a734$0b17b460$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Along those lines, no matter if youre a socialist/Marxist, or a conservative, I think youll find the following quite amusing. Bud Osbourne "We in Denmark cannot figure out why you are even bothering to hold an election. On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer. On the other side, you have a true war hero married to a woman with a huge chest who owns a beer distributorship. Is there a contest here?" _____ From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Apr 25 18:25:06 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:25:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 seat question... In-Reply-To: <48120046.3248.1BF3598@dmg.bossig.com> References: <48120046.3248.1BF3598@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5DFA3FF5-2161-47E3-A581-DBEABFF3D5A7@mac.com> Dave, As I recall the hooks go thru the top of the frame. When I redid mine a few years back I ended up taking the part to and auto upholster shop because I could not pull the last hooks over to the frame. The seats were on rails, sounds like some wanted more head and or leg room. My uncle who was 6 ft 4 in did that to his AH 100 years ago. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 25, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Does anyone have a picture of how the diaphram and 'hooks' are > fitted onto > the seat frame. there are holes on the top side of the squab frames... > > My seat squabs are just sitting on the floor pan!! > > Also, there is no sliding runners(?) ... the seats are just bolted > to the floor... > Is this correct?? Or should they slide/adjust? From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 18:38:06 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:38:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help In-Reply-To: <4812593B.6040203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00e501c8a735$cd896ce0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ryan, Something tells me you'd better be able to out-drink these guys (especially Frank), or you'll risk having to take a cab home, since your car will have become scattered in many different directions/garages/parts stashes. Note to Frank & the guys: I'm looking for a good (good = just minor leaks) top for my '73 ;) Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:21 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cooling system issues revised---Help Ryan Are you coming to the Spring Oshit Saturday? Bring the car, Larry will push it if it doesn't make it ;) We will figure it out, we have head gaskets, radiators, and test equipment. Just bring an extra jug of water with you. Let Larry follow you for a bit to see it it's coolant smoke out the tail pipe or water coming from under the car. I'm an hour away and I have a trailer in my yard if you have any serious problems. Drive it here tomorrow. We'll fix it or if nothing else, we will happily part it out for you :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lists at woozy.com Fri Apr 25 18:43:24 2008 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:43:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 seat question... In-Reply-To: <5DFA3FF5-2161-47E3-A581-DBEABFF3D5A7@mac.com> References: <48120046.3248.1BF3598@dmg.bossig.com> <5DFA3FF5-2161-47E3-A581-DBEABFF3D5A7@mac.com> Message-ID: <48127AAC.4020300@woozy.com> Kitterer Bob wrote: > My uncle who was 6 ft 4 in did that to his AH 100 years ago. > Wow, your uncle had an Austin Healey way back in 1908? ;-) Robert From cciaffone at verizon.net Fri Apr 25 19:40:10 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] quote of the day In-Reply-To: <00e001c8a734$0b17b460$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <00e001c8a734$0b17b460$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <481287FA.3050300@verizon.net> As I remember the first Busch campaign, the republic folks tarred the "war hero" with the cowardly brush. They said he conspired with the enemy. So now he's a war hero again?? I am well and truly lost. c Bud Osbourne wrote: > On the other side, you have a true war hero From abcoz at hky.com Fri Apr 25 20:10:33 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:10:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] quote of the day In-Reply-To: <481287FA.3050300@verizon.net> Message-ID: <00e701c8a742$b5e4a5c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Don't know, don't care, at this point in time (I don't like any of them). Just enjoyed the "email from Denmark". Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: chuck [mailto:cciaffone at verizon.net] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 8:40 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] quote of the day As I remember the first Busch campaign, the republic folks tarred the "war hero" with the cowardly brush. They said he conspired with the enemy. So now he's a war hero again?? I am well and truly lost. c Bud Osbourne wrote: > On the other side, you have a true war hero From smarc at smarc.net Fri Apr 25 20:04:17 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:04:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak from dip stick? In-Reply-To: <000c01c7e262$8a23c1a0$0201a8c0@midget> References: <46C7C86B.7020907@smarc.net> <000c01c7e262$8a23c1a0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <48128DA1.7090607@smarc.net> Eight months later, I finally got back on the '73 Midget project. Basically, as the situation was left, there was oil oozing out, lots of vapor from front vent and some from the rocker cover. I dragged it out and got it started, albeit with some difficulty. So I went back to the emails I had received on this topic last summer. I got a lot of good info from various people on the list, but seems the consensus was to do a compression test and a leak-down test. Well, compression test is something I know how to do, so I did it. Gauge showed 100 psi across the board. This was on an engine that had just been run, so it wasn't dry. Even so, I squirted a few cc's of oil into each cyl before testing. As I understand it, 100 psi is pretty low... Talking to a mechanic acquaintance of mine, he says if it sat a long time, you might just need to run it a while, and see if it improves. Says the rings may 'free up' after a bit. So I got it warmed up, adjusted the HS2 carbs, and drove the little car. First time I ever drove it actually. Holy Cow - 1st gear is NOISY! It was gutless at first, but after it got hot, then readjusted the carbs. It started running better and better. I had meant to adjust the valves, but it was amusing and I ran out of time after goofing off with it for a while... Just as it was getting dark, I rechecked compression in cylinder #1 only - it was now 120 psi. Also, I noticed it wasn't dribbling oil out the dip stick... Guess tomorrow I will warm it up, adjust the valves, and recheck it... If all this pans out acceptable, I will move on to figuring out how to reconstruct the charcoal cannister engine venting arrangement. Marc From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Apr 25 21:55:26 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Danica Day (We're #2) Message-ID: <95674.29959.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I could use Jahimiak's Sprite and still not be the fastest racer on the block. Local girl makes good - her motor home was in front of the house last night. I think it was just her mom and dad. Nice people: http://tinyurl.com/3tkyut Ron Roscoe, IL!!! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Apr 25 22:37:34 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:37:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] '65 seat question... In-Reply-To: <48127AAC.4020300@woozy.com> References: <48120046.3248.1BF3598@dmg.bossig.com> <5DFA3FF5-2161-47E3-A581-DBEABFF3D5A7@mac.com> <48127AAC.4020300@woozy.com> Message-ID: Very good, my bad phrasing LOL Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 25, 2008, at 5:43 PM, Robert Weeks wrote: > Kitterer Bob wrote: >> My uncle who was 6 ft 4 in did that to his AH 100 years ago. >> > Wow, your uncle had an Austin Healey way back in 1908? > > ;-) > > Robert From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Apr 26 05:59:55 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:59:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quote of the day.... References: <2ad6c6b10804251559o4c16b6f7x4c6b6729eba8e344@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005e01c8a795$0be23940$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "WFO Herb" To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgeteers" ; "Wedge List" ; "Sprite Yahoo" Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 5:59 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Quote of the day.... Quote of the Day........'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama _______________________________________________ A recent survey of 109 professional historians in U.S. News and World Report said that 98% of them thought that the Bush II presidency was a failure and 61%, or nearly 2 out of 3, said that he was the worst president in the history of the country. Geez, why in the world would anybody want to change that??? From dmg at bossig.com Sat Apr 26 12:10:54 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:10:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another question on seats... Message-ID: <48130DBE.28851.832240@dmg.bossig.com> My seats have no diaphragms... Looking at the parts books, I see that A-H changed from the rubber sheet diaphragm to a webbed diaphragm. My guess is that the webbed one is easier to instal than the sheet one. I'm NOT building a concours or 'correct' car - just a daily driver. Mine are the early non-reclining seat back, no head-rest type. Is there a good reason why I should NOT use the webbed version - and reduce the risk of getting hurt during the install?? TIA.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 12:48:16 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 11:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question Message-ID: <478903.63827.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I did some work on my race Bugeye's braking system and had totally drained the system. I refilled and bled with the Speedbleeders very successfully in minutes, solo. The pedal is great. I was wondering what your (plural) thoughts are on bleeding right at the Tilton master cylinders. There are bleed ports at each, and I wonder if that would be best because it is at the highest point in the lines or worst beacuse it's upstream of the calipers/wheel cylinders. Pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/soavero/2443783656/ TIA, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Apr 26 13:00:31 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:00:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question References: <478903.63827.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001f01c8a7cf$cd88e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> >I did some work on my race Bugeye's braking system and > had totally drained the system. I refilled and bled > with the Speedbleeders very successfully in minutes, > solo. The pedal is great. I was wondering what your > (plural) thoughts are on bleeding right at the Tilton > master cylinders. IMHO, the fact that you have a "great" pedal is proof positive that there is no air in the system. There is nothing to be gained by bleeding at the masters. David Lieb From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 14:54:08 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <001f01c8a7cf$cd88e9b0$0201a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <138411.83891.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "IMHO, the fact that you have a "great" pedal is proof positive that there is no air in the system. There is nothing to be gained by bleeding at the masters. David Lieb " For what it's worth (yes I know it's not worth much), I agree with David. If you have great pedal already, I would personally leave it alone... Unless of course you are of the opinion that there is even better pedal feel out there to be had with your hotrod tilton set-up. If so - at worst all you're doing is spending a bit more quality time in the garage and maybe wasting a few drops of dot4 or silicone or whatever you're using. At best, you may achieve that illusive perfect pedal... - David Booker ('71 Midget, Long Island) David Lieb wrote: You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 15:08:37 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Different brake question In-Reply-To: <138411.83891.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <61302.93627.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I removed the Brake Master Cylinder from my '71 Midget yesterday (this is the dual line unit) and was planning to rebuild it today. I got it out, drained it, took off the reservoir, cleaned it all up on the outside, and was about to take the guts out when I came to a screeching halt. How the heck do you get it open? Is there some special tool to hold the spring back so you can get at the little spring clip? Is it a two-person job? Or is it just that I don't have my tongue at the right angle and/or haven't yet invoked the correct sequence of expletives while paying proper homage to Lucas, Smiths, and Lockheed? I'm really hoping somebody out there has the special step by step that will make it all come out right so I can get the lttle beast on the road sometime before Spring is up. Thanks much, - David Booker (Long Island) --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From dmeadow at juno.com Sat Apr 26 15:30:32 2008 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:30:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Different brake question Message-ID: <20080426.163032.2228.0.dmeadow@juno.com> Here is the legendary John Twist's answer to this question: http://universitymotorsltd.com/qa-display.php/681 On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT) David Booker writes: > I removed the Brake Master Cylinder from my '71 Midget yesterday > (this is the dual line unit) and was planning to rebuild it today. > I got it out, drained it, took off the reservoir, cleaned it all up > on the outside, and was about to take the guts out when I came to a > screeching halt. How the heck do you get it open? Is there some > special tool to hold the spring back so you can get at the little > spring clip? Is it a two-person job? Or is it just that I don't > have my tongue at the right angle and/or haven't yet invoked the > correct sequence of expletives while paying proper homage to Lucas, > Smiths, and Lockheed? > > I'm really hoping somebody out there has the special step by step > that will make it all come out right so I can get the lttle beast on > the road sometime before Spring is up. > > Thanks much, > - David Booker > (Long Island) From abcoz at hky.com Sat Apr 26 15:43:25 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Different brake question In-Reply-To: <61302.93627.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00f901c8a7e6$8efe3440$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> David, It's been a good many years since I've rebuilt a brake M/C, on a dual circuit BL system. The "tool" that I used to find to be very effective, for holding the "cup" against the spring, and away from the clip was the towing eye, which is/was bolted to the front bumper mounts on.......I forget which years...got mine from my mid-'74 BGT. After you get that one off, you're going to need some extra long reach circlip pliers, to get the next circlip out. Beyond that, I'd have to take one apart, myself, to refresh my memory. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:09 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Different brake question I removed the Brake Master Cylinder from my '71 Midget yesterday (this is the dual line unit) and was planning to rebuild it today. I got it out, drained it, took off the reservoir, cleaned it all up on the outside, and was about to take the guts out when I came to a screeching halt. How the heck do you get it open? Is there some special tool to hold the spring back so you can get at the little spring clip? Is it a two-person job? Or is it just that I don't have my tongue at the right angle and/or haven't yet invoked the correct sequence of expletives while paying proper homage to Lucas, Smiths, and Lockheed? I'm really hoping somebody out there has the special step by step that will make it all come out right so I can get the lttle beast on the road sometime before Spring is up. Thanks much, - David Booker (Long Island) --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat Apr 26 15:45:29 2008 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:45:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes Message-ID: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> Front bearing issues are now solved thanks to Peter C. The problem with the excessive play in one wheel was a worn inner hub race. Changed hubs and installed a new bearing. Now on to the next issue with the front suspension. When I go over ANY irregularities in the road the car want to literally jump around and dart every which way. The car will not self center on steering (i.e. most cars you can let go of the wheel and the steering will try to go straight). All of the suspension bushes, kingpins, and tie rod ends are new. The rack was also rebuilt. Car now has 68 miles on it. Is something on the suspension too tight and needs to be loosened? Rack related? Alignment issues? Trying to get Iris sorted out for the Lake of the Ozarks. Cant wait for the mountain roads Thanks Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: 4/25/2008 2:31 PM From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 26 15:51:13 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:51:13 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] WORLD EVENTS MAP - UPDATES EVERY FEW MINUTES Message-ID: "He who controls the media, controls the news"...originated by Joseph Goebbels. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 15:52:47 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <138411.83891.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <599101.64957.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I did not ask for this time, I am asking for next. Because of the accelerated life test that is racing, I very often bleed the brakes. There are at least 2 others on this list that have a vested interest in the answer, as they are the ones usually doing the bleed at the track. In a muddy paddock, I'm they would be tickled to be standing over the MCs rather than being under or kneeling at a wheel. If anyone can answer, have at it. --- David Booker wrote: > "IMHO, the fact that you have a "great" pedal is > proof positive that there is > no air in the system. There is nothing to be gained > by bleeding at the > masters. > David Lieb " > > For what it's worth (yes I know it's not worth > much), I agree with David. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Apr 26 15:53:12 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:53:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage Message-ID: "Rubberized" Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: derf Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:32 AM To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgeteers Subject: Re: [Spridgets] POR15 for the undercarriage A good primer and a good coat of paint are probably best. Undercoating isn't bad, either. You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Sat Apr 26 16:29:20 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:29:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes In-Reply-To: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> References: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> Message-ID: <84132888-953C-4F84-BA53-33B6635FE933@mac.com> Leo, How old are the tires? If they are 6-8 years old they should be replace regardless of how well they look, particularly with a long road trip in the works. Today tires will start separating between the belt and casing once they reach this age range. When that is happening and you go over an irregular section of road the car will squirm significantly. I just replaced a really good looking set of tires for this reason and have seen several other references to this problem with tires..Of course if they are new tires I am just running off at the mouth. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Leo wrote: > Front bearing issues are now solved thanks to Peter C. The problem > with the > excessive play in one wheel was a worn inner hub race. Changed > hubs and > installed a new bearing. Now on to the next issue with the front > suspension. When I go over ANY irregularities in the road the car > want to > literally jump around and dart every which way. The car will not self > center on steering (i.e. most cars you can let go of the wheel and the > steering will try to go straight). All of the suspension bushes, > kingpins, > and tie rod ends are new. The rack was also rebuilt. Car now has > 68 miles > on it. Is something on the suspension too tight and needs to be > loosened? > Rack related? Alignment issues? Trying to get Iris sorted out for > the Lake > of the Ozarks. Cant wait for the mountain roads > > > > Thanks > > Leo > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.5/1398 - Release Date: > 4/25/2008 > 2:31 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Apr 26 17:14:20 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Weber manifold wanted Message-ID: <814473.40460.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I sold my streetcar Weber setup last year and have missed it ever since. I have acquired another carb, but need a manifold. Whatcha got? The manifold I liked best on the streetcar was the short Maniflow, but I had nothing against the cast aluminum varieties as well, including the often maligned Cannon. Thanks, Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Apr 26 17:16:16 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:16:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes In-Reply-To: <84132888-953C-4F84-BA53-33B6635FE933@mac.com> References: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> <84132888-953C-4F84-BA53-33B6635FE933@mac.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804261616p4a828160v822c070f478e8a42@mail.gmail.com> Follow a logical sequence starting with the simplest things and working toward the most difficult (and expensive). Alignment first and tires as mentioned by Bob. If you rebuilt everything else, it would seem to be an adjustment problem. I've never done a steering rack on a Spridget but I have done it on a MG TC. The shims in the rack are exceedingly important to be at the right tolerances. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Apr 26 18:16:57 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:16:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Another question on seats... In-Reply-To: <48130DBE.28851.832240@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: And where would the fun be in that for the rest of us? :) ----Original Message Follows---- - and reduce the risk of getting hurt during the install?? TIA.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Apr 26 19:46:38 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:46:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes In-Reply-To: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> References: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> Message-ID: <4813DAFE.8000007@comcast.net> Leo Check the toe in, Just use a tape measure and see if the back of the wires are the same width as the front of the tires. 1/8" less in the front is acceptable. Also, check to see how tight the top king pin nuts are, too tight makes for tight steering. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Apr 26 20:00:04 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:00:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Tune Up Message-ID: <4813DE24.4060004@comcast.net> The 3rd annual Oshit tune up went really great today. Ryan's midget with cooling troubles is fixed, it was just a really clogged system. And his toe in was out 1.5 inches, now his car steers like a Midget. Even Larry Macy adjusted his toe in which was only off by 1/8" and he loves the improvement. Kevin found the root of my ever changing front end when he pulled out 2 of the shock bolts with his fingers. Well that'll make for a changing front end huh? But the captive nuts were stripped from the loose bolts but we fixed that too. We fixed my coolant leak, A quick resolder of the hose nipple to the radiator tank and no more leak. Chris King looked like he did it all to his Midget, brakes, all fluids, tune up, valve adjust and maybe more, he was a flurry of activity all by himself! And now Kevin has a working Lucas SMOKE CHECK gauge mounted in his console. There are just 3 of these in the world. And now all 3 work but no 2 smoke the same. I like Kevin's the best. I will not tell anyone where the smoke comes out. We had a few guys who helped too because their cars were in good shape. Another successful oshit team effort. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From davriker at nwi.net Sat Apr 26 20:50:20 2008 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes References: <004b01c8a7e6$d8bd2410$8a376c30$@net> Message-ID: <004901c8a811$6ed62ee0$6600a8c0@dave> The shims behind the steering rack are to keep the steering column aligned to the rack and turning smoothly. They don't necessarily go back in the same places they came out either. With the wheels lifted off the ground, does the steering wheel rotate freely from lock to lock? There should be no stiff spots or binding. Causes are the shims, bent steering column, or the king pin bolts too tight. Any binding will show up as steering that refuses to return to center. Toe in should be adjusted 1/8 less in the front. At any speed at all, the resistance of the tires actually pulls the front end to a true 0" Toe-in. If the toe starts out at 0, by the time the vehicle is under way there will actually be 1/8" toe-out. Toe-out will increase tire wear, and cause twitchy steering. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> To: "Spridget List" Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes > Front bearing issues are now solved thanks to Peter C. The problem with > the > excessive play in one wheel was a worn inner hub race. Changed hubs and > installed a new bearing. Now on to the next issue with the front > suspension. When I go over ANY irregularities in the road the car want > to > literally jump around and dart every which way. The car will not self > center on steering (i.e. most cars you can let go of the wheel and the > steering will try to go straight). All of the suspension bushes, > kingpins, > and tie rod ends are new. The rack was also rebuilt. Car now has 68 > miles > on it. Is something on the suspension too tight and needs to be loosened? > Rack related? Alignment issues? Trying to get Iris sorted out for the Lake > of the Ozarks. Cant wait for the mountain roads From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Apr 27 06:40:49 2008 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:40:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Tune Up Message-ID: <10d8501c8a863$ebc983a0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Thanks Frank for hosting this again! My car is running great. It does have a shimmy that shows up at about 70mph, probably related to the excess negative camber we noticed on the left front. Time for a dig into the front suspension. So when'r the next OSHIT? :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: 4/26/2008 10:00:04 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Spring Tune Up The 3rd annual Oshit tune up went really great today. Ryan's midget with cooling troubles is fixed, it was just a really clogged system. And his toe in was out 1.5 inches, now his car steers like a Midget. Even Larry Macy adjusted his toe in which was only off by 1/8" and he loves the improvement. Kevin found the root of my ever changing front end when he pulled out 2 of the shock bolts with his fingers. Well that'll make for a changing front end huh? But the captive nuts were stripped from the loose bolts but we fixed that too. We fixed my coolant leak, A quick resolder of the hose nipple to the radiator tank and no more leak. Chris King looked like he did it all to his Midget, brakes, all fluids, tune up, valve adjust and maybe more, he was a flurry of activity all by himself! And now Kevin has a working Lucas SMOKE CHECK gauge mounted in his console. There are just 3 of these in the world. And now all 3 work but no 2 smoke the same. I like Kevin's the best. I will not tell anyone where the smoke comes out. We had a few guys who helped too because their cars were in good shape. Another successful oshit team effort. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun Apr 27 07:02:07 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:02:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes Message-ID: <042720081302.24030.4814794F00037BA700005DDE2215568884C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Good information! Question, though: If the rack IS too tight, how do you determine where and which guage shim to place to align the rack? I am thinking some use with a feeler guage? --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "David Riker" > The shims behind the steering rack are to keep the steering column aligned > to the rack and turning smoothly. They don't necessarily go back in the > same places they came out either. With the wheels lifted off the ground, > does the steering wheel rotate freely from lock to lock? There should be no > stiff spots or binding. Causes are the shims, bent steering column, or the > king pin bolts too tight. Any binding will show up as steering that refuses > to return to center. Toe in should be adjusted 1/8 less in the front. At > any speed at all, the resistance of the tires actually pulls the front end > to a true 0" Toe-in. If the toe starts out at 0, by the time the vehicle is > under way there will actually be 1/8" toe-out. Toe-out will increase tire > wear, and cause twitchy steering. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Suspension woes > > > > Front bearing issues are now solved thanks to Peter C. The problem with > > the > > excessive play in one wheel was a worn inner hub race. Changed hubs and > > installed a new bearing. Now on to the next issue with the front > > suspension. When I go over ANY irregularities in the road the car want > > to > > literally jump around and dart every which way. The car will not self > > center on steering (i.e. most cars you can let go of the wheel and the > > steering will try to go straight). All of the suspension bushes, > > kingpins, > > and tie rod ends are new. The rack was also rebuilt. Car now has 68 > > miles > > on it. Is something on the suspension too tight and needs to be loosened? > > Rack related? Alignment issues? Trying to get Iris sorted out for the Lake > > of the Ozarks. Cant wait for the mountain roads From: "David Riker" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "Spridget List" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Suspension woes Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:52:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain _______________________________________________ From gmeyer01 at snet.net Sun Apr 27 07:32:26 2008 From: gmeyer01 at snet.net (The Mayers) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] VSCCA Lime Rock Park May 3 Message-ID: <791811.98654.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I plan to go to the VSCCA event at Lime Rock Park (in CT) May 3. Are there any listers that are also planning to be there? Gary '60 BE, '77 & '80 MGB From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Apr 27 17:36:06 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:36:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger Message-ID: <0C6A75B6C627412FBE0749AFC0BE16EB@Home> I took the rear end out today, and on one side, the captive bolt holding the front of the spring hanger was rusted/torn out. Many of the bolts sheared off. Also, the back of the floor panel is rusted out all across the joint between the rear wheel arch and the rear bulkhead. I need pictures of these repairs. The catalogue shows spring hanger patches and rear panel repair patches, but it is not clear if that is what I need. Any suggestions? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Apr 27 17:49:04 2008 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:49:04 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger Message-ID: Mike... others with a wealth of hands on experience will tell you what you need. I will say once you have what you need, go to an experienced shop to be sure that before welding is done, all remains properly "aligned". This is a permanent repair. Get it done once, get it done right by people who know what they are doing. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Apr 27 17:59:41 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:59:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger In-Reply-To: <0C6A75B6C627412FBE0749AFC0BE16EB@Home> Message-ID: > I need pictures of these repairs. Once you get the car upside down and remove the floors, it'll become become clear. BZ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 18:09:45 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger In-Reply-To: <0C6A75B6C627412FBE0749AFC0BE16EB@Home> Message-ID: <609048.41566.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Rowe wrote: > I need pictures of these repairs. > The catalogue shows spring hanger patches and rear > panel repair patches, but it is not clear if that is > what I need Mike, Not to turn it around, but can you post pictures somewhere of what you're describing? It'll be a lot easier for us to determine what you need - each of us is likely visualizing something a little different. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From james.f.juhas at snet.net Sun Apr 27 19:19:00 2008 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VSCCA Lime Rock Park May 3 Message-ID: <20080428011728.5420418787C@autox.team.net> I'm going. LRP is nearby for me, so I get to go to all the LRP events, plus some test days. I plan to arrive my customary Thursday evening, even though we don't start until the afternoon. We'll see you there. Are you racing that Bugeye? What's your car number? Jim 1957 MGA #311 -----Original Message----- From: The Mayers Subj: [Spridgets] VSCCA Lime Rock Park May 3 Date: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:32 am Size: 380 bytes To: Sprite I plan to go to the VSCCA event at Lime Rock Park (in CT) May 3. Are there any listers that are also planning to be there? Gary '60 BE, '77 & '80 MGB You are subscribed as james.f.juhas at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From gjbranch at comcast.net Sun Apr 27 19:40:43 2008 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:40:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] VSCCA Lime Rock Park May 3 References: <20080428011728.5420418787C@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <00c501c8a8d0$dfd08db0$0201a8c0@DELL> Are rubber neckers invited? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Juhas" To: "The Mayers" ; "Sprite" Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] VSCCA Lime Rock Park May 3 > I'm going. LRP is nearby for me, so I get to go to all the LRP events, > plus some test days. I plan to arrive my customary Thursday evening, even > though we don't start until the afternoon. We'll see you there. Are you > racing that Bugeye? What's your car number? > > Jim > 1957 MGA #311 From dmg at bossig.com Sun Apr 27 19:47:39 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:47:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Does the gas tank need to be grounded?? Message-ID: <4814CA4B.16091.26568F5@dmg.bossig.com> Does the gas tank need to be grounded at the boot body?? Or is the ground at the dashboard good enough.. My gauge (and the spare gauge) reads 1/2 full when almost empty.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Apr 27 21:51:09 2008 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:51:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Starter with 5 Speed Message-ID: <029c01c8a8e3$18f54970$0200a8c0@Dell9200> Has any body tried one of the new high torque starters with a Rivergate 5 speed kit? I have a worn ring gear and might try a modern starter that engages from the front to buy me some time. Do I recall that there is a clearance problem ? Thanks, Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 27 23:26:43 2008 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Starter with 5 Speed Message-ID: <111415.34544.qm@web36406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I use a high torque starter with a Rivergate 5 speed kit and have no clearance problem. It works rather well. Roger Cotting ----- Original Message ---- From: Mark To: Spridgets Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:51:09 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Starter with 5 Speed Has any body tried one of the new high torque starters with a Rivergate 5 speed kit? I have a worn ring gear and might try a modern starter that engages from the front to buy me some time. Do I recall that there is a clearance problem ? Thanks, Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com _______________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Mon Apr 28 01:03:54 2008 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:03:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shipping a car from the UK Message-ID: <7E67A218-FE9A-47B8-B164-9E5EB4F88929@gerardsgarage.com> I have a neighbor on the next block who has dropped by a couple times when I have been out working on the cars. It turns out he is from England and has a '63 Morris Mini he keeps in storage there and so it gets used only when he returns on a trip. He is contemplating bringing it back to the US and was asking if I knew of any transporters he could use. So, I'm looking for suggestions/references. I'm in San Francisco, Ca. Anybody? Thanks in advance From max at maxengland.com Mon Apr 28 01:14:45 2008 From: max at maxengland.com (Maxime Slegers) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger In-Reply-To: <0C6A75B6C627412FBE0749AFC0BE16EB@Home> References: <0C6A75B6C627412FBE0749AFC0BE16EB@Home> Message-ID: <60030.212.166.46.72.1209366885.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Hello Michael, Have a look at this picture and the following ones, you'll see how I rebuilt the front spring hanger: http://www.maxengland.com/affich_photo.php?alb=MG%20Midget&ID=870 Hope this helps. More pictures showing the left side will come soon. Max > I took the rear end out today, and on one side, the captive bolt holding > the front of the spring hanger was rusted/torn out. Many of the bolts > sheared off. Also, the back of the floor panel is rusted out all across > the joint between the rear wheel arch and the rear bulkhead. I need > pictures of these repairs. The catalogue shows spring hanger patches and > rear panel repair patches, but it is not clear if that is what I need. > Any suggestions? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as max at maxengland.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 06:30:21 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rack Clearances Message-ID: <325328.85411.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, I replaced Bugsy's, my '68 Sprite's Rack and there are copper shims when you take apart the rack. Bentley Manual details the procedure. Simple stuff you can make and shims can come from sheet copper from ther hobby store. It will be quite evident if shims aren't right as the rack will lock up. Not a fun thing. Depending on the year of your car, consider replacing the pinion gear. That is the thing that wears in there and for my '68 the pinion gear was something like $6.95. Made a dramatic difference in steering feel. Other years pinion is much more expensive. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Apr 28 06:40:59 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:40:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <599101.64957.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <138411.83891.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <599101.64957.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron: When you're done with these two others guys who are rolling in the mud at the track, would you please send them over? Thank you. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 5:53 PM To: David Booker; David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question I did not ask for this time, I am asking for next. Because of the accelerated life test that is racing, I very often bleed the brakes. There are at least 2 others on this list that have a vested interest in the answer, as they are the ones usually doing the bleed at the track. In a muddy paddock, I'm they would be tickled to be standing over the MCs rather than being under or kneeling at a wheel. If anyone can answer, have at it. --- David Booker wrote: > "IMHO, the fact that you have a "great" pedal is > proof positive that there is > no air in the system. There is nothing to be gained > by bleeding at the > masters. > David Lieb " > > For what it's worth (yes I know it's not worth > much), I agree with David. ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 07:15:39 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:15:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rack Clearances Message-ID: <042820081315.17825.4815CDFB00054984000045A12215567074C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Thanks Jim. Here's where I am in terms of front steering. I replaced the flimsy steering rack in my '79 with an early beefier rack from a 1275. Everything works just fine, except the steering feels "tight" and won't return to center when the wheel is released in a turn. I replaced the same shims on the same side as the original rack had. The "new" rack is much much quicker than the old one was. I don't think the pinion is the problem, but I think maybe alignment is. Maybe I need to loosen everything and reshim, but I am not sure how to arrive at what shims to use and where to put them. Trial and error? --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: James Gruber > David, > > I replaced Bugsy's, my '68 Sprite's Rack and there are copper shims when you > take apart the rack. Bentley Manual details the procedure. Simple stuff you can > make and shims can come from sheet copper from ther hobby store. It will be > quite evident if shims aren't right as the rack will lock up. Not a fun thing. > > Depending on the year of your car, consider replacing the pinion gear. That is > the thing that wears in there and for my '68 the pinion gear was something like > $6.95. Made a dramatic difference in steering feel. Other years pinion is much > more expensive. > > > Jim Gruber > Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite > Cincinnati, OH > > --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From: James Gruber To: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Rack Clearances Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:30:22 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html David, I replaced Bugsy's, my '68 Sprite's Rack and there are copper shims when you take apart the rack. Bentley Manual details the procedure. Simple stuff you can make and shims can come from sheet copper from ther hobby store. It will be quite evident if shims aren't right as the rack will lock up. Not a fun thing. Depending on the year of your car, consider replacing the pinion gear. That is the thing that wears in there and for my '68 the pinion gear was something like $6.95. Made a dramatic difference in steering feel. Other years pinion is much more expensive. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH _________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 07:24:10 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:24:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rack Service Message-ID: <042820081324.14453.4815CFFA0008C79E000038752215567074C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Speaking of replacing a rack, here is an interesting piece: http://www.mgexperience.net/article/steering-rack-service.html --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 08:16:36 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Starter with 5 Speed In-Reply-To: <029c01c8a8e3$18f54970$0200a8c0@Dell9200> References: <029c01c8a8e3$18f54970$0200a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804280716k437aa86cifc2d83f3ca09d87f@mail.gmail.com> The Isuzu starter is a good, inexpensive option, too, especially if you don't mind a used unit. From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Apr 28 09:44:09 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:44:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number Message-ID: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> Just checked out the Speed Bleeder site in hopes of ordering some parts but do not know which parts to order. Anyone know the part numbers or thread size for a 1967 disk brake system? Looking for all of the bleed valves. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition From peter at nosimport.com Mon Apr 28 09:50:38 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:50:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> Clutch and calipers are 3/8-24 Rear wheel cyls are 1/4-20 (I think. Depends on brand of cylinder. Could be Eyetalian and metric.) Peter --- At 10:44 AM 4/28/2008, Kitterer Bob wrote: >Just checked out the Speed Bleeder site in hopes of ordering some >parts but do not know which parts to order. Anyone know the part >numbers or thread size for a 1967 disk brake system? Looking for all >of the bleed valves. > >Thanks > >Bob Kitterer > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) >2000 Miata Special Edition >_______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Apr 28 10:52:59 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:52:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> Message-ID: > Speed Bleeder site Contact them for the part numbers. They know what Spridgets are. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Apr 28 10:57:04 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:57:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Scottish games Message-ID: <000601c8a950$e2a7e170$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> What a long weekend. 16 hours of bagpipes and hot sun. Huge beer bellies hanging over kilts. Drunk punks with a beer in each hand, pouring it over the side of a 1948 Triumph roadster as they lean forward to look in the rumbleseat. Three different people telling me how fast their friend/brother/aquaintance's Bugeye was after they put in a V-8. Smile and deal with the slight taste of throw-up in the back of the throat. No, your darling child may NOT be photographed sitting on Bugsy's bonnet. No, I don't "have one for the other foot?". No I don't want to hear a half-hour story about your English car that turns out to be an English car shell draped over a Chevy chassis and V8. No, a rusted out 80's XJ6 in a field is not a treasured classic I should drive an hour to check-out. Three Sprite/Midget owners with enthusiasm and parts needs. One will be contacting Peter for shock rebuilds, one will be trading me a spin-on adaptor for the original metal oil-filter can (she's an originality nutter, go figure), and the other will be bringing their Midget to the upcoming show and joining the list. None will be going to Missouri despite arm twisting. Glen "pass on the Haggis this year" Byrns From abcoz at hky.com Mon Apr 28 11:14:06 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:14:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] tops Message-ID: <001201c8a953$444966e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> During a 200+ mile drive, through the mountains, this past Saturday (and, yes, my '72 Midget still puts a big grin on my face every time I drive it), it became very obvious that it is time for a new top. Since I will also need a new top for my '73 Midget restoration project (now in final stages, before color is applied), I thought I would ask the List about which vendor offers the most correct convertible top. I rarely put the top up, but, when I do, I like to stay reasonably dry. I'm also thinking about a zip-out rear window, as I really liked that feature on my '78 Spitfire, many, many years ago. Thanks for any information & suggestions offered. Bud Osbourne From smarc at smarc.net Mon Apr 28 11:28:59 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:28:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? Message-ID: <4816095B.5040204@smarc.net> Hi - Whats the correct SU fuel pump for a 73 midget? Does it have banjo connections, or hose + clamp arrangements? Someone hacked a universal vibrator type under my midget... (and it leaks) -- Marc From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Apr 28 11:44:37 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:44:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger Message-ID: Wow! You're really into that Midget, aren't you? I'm impressed. My French isn't the best, to say the least. ( I had to look up "Ttles", though I might have gotten it from context later on ). So, how long have you been at this? Did you know that it was that big of a project when you got it? It sure was shiny on the outside. I assume you drive on the right hand side of the road in Belgium? Robert ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Maxime Slegers" Hello Michael, Have a look at this picture and the following ones, you'll see how I rebuilt the front spring hanger: http://www.maxengland.com/affich_photo.php?alb=MG%20Midget&ID=870 Hope this helps. More pictures showing the left side will come soon. Max From abcoz at hky.com Mon Apr 28 11:58:44 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:58:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? In-Reply-To: <4816095B.5040204@smarc.net> Message-ID: <001501c8a959$80908ec0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Marc, Should be an AUF-300, with hose & clamp type connections. The MGB uses the banjo connection type. I suggest you ignore recommendations for any non-original fuel pump, as anyone complaining of unreliability (of the original type fuel pump) is either badly misinformed, or too technically incompetent to figure out how to keep the original type performing correctly. They really are VERY reliable. Bud Osbourne (40+ years of reliable service from SU fuel pumps) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:29 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? Hi - Whats the correct SU fuel pump for a 73 midget? Does it have banjo connections, or hose + clamp arrangements? Someone hacked a universal vibrator type under my midget... (and it leaks) -- Marc From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 12:03:06 2008 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:03:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation Message-ID: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> I know some of you may complain about this, but i want some tunes with my engine noise. There is only 5 3/4 inches depth in the center console and most modern radio are 6" (6 1/2" with wiring) how did you install yours? and or what model radio did you use. Oh and I will soon have a working 1974 original AM radio for sale. thanks Ryan From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Apr 28 12:07:45 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:07:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? References: <001501c8a959$80908ec0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <002c01c8a95a$c31679c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I suggest you ignore recommendations for any non-original fuel pump, as > anyone complaining of unreliability (of the original type fuel pump) is > either badly misinformed, or too technically incompetent to figure out > how to keep the original type performing correctly. I suggest that you ignore recommendations from the originality nuts as well. None of the Spridgets I have ever bought have come with a functional SU pump. None of the aftermarket pumps that they did have ever gave me a lick of trouble. Bud, argumentum ad hominum is not particularly appreciated here. Feel free to make your recommendations, but enough of insulting everybody who might not happen to agree with you. David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Apr 28 12:25:13 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:25:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Install a power amp and speakers, and an 1/8" jack for you iPod. There's no good music on radio. From dmg at bossig.com Mon Apr 28 12:21:03 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:21:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? In-Reply-To: <002c01c8a95a$c31679c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <001501c8a959$80908ec0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com>, <002c01c8a95a$c31679c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4815B31F.11471.1258A7C@dmg.bossig.com> AFAIK... when the SU fuel pump fails it is nearly always due to the point contact failing inside the pump. I took my original SU fuel pump, modified it to use transistor switching... It still "clicks" but doesn't suffer from burnt or stuck points... and it hasn't quit (yet!) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 12:39:20 2008 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:39:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: References: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: That's the DAMN TRUTH!!! On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Install a power amp and speakers, and an 1/8" jack for you iPod. > There's no good music on radio. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 28 12:41:45 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> Message-ID: <1ea14a526e3a53c82a543b7a.20080428114145.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Part number SB3824 is the 3/8 X 24 size Speed Bleeder. Simple Huh? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Kitterer Bob > Just checked out the Speed Bleeder site in hopes of ordering some > parts but do not know which parts to order. Anyone know the part > numbers or thread size for a 1967 disk brake system? Looking for all > of the bleed valves. > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kristi74midget at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 12:54:09 2008 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:54:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6E5FA15D-EDCF-4B0E-895F-7E2C761FFD10@comcast.net> Ryan, I just bought a regular radio and put it in the glove compartment. It works great. No worring about anyone seeing it and it stays dry when it rains. Kristi 74 RWA Midget (Mini Lee) On Apr 28, 2008, at 2:03 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > I know some of you may complain about this, but i want some tunes > with my engine noise. There is only 5 3/4 inches depth in the > center console and most modern radio are 6" (6 1/2" with wiring) how > did you install yours? and or what model radio did you use. Oh and I > will soon have a working 1974 original AM radio for sale. > thanks > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kristi74midget at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Apr 28 13:12:39 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:12:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation References: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <6E5FA15D-EDCF-4B0E-895F-7E2C761FFD10@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003d01c8a963$d48dfa30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Ryan, I modified one of Frank's ideas by mounting my radio on the parcel shelf. See http://home.comcast.net/~rmidget/radio/ for details. Makes for a lousy radio, but then there isn't that much on the radio anyway. I have since swapped to a Pioneer CD/Radio with the ability to play a CD-R of MP3 files. Much better! I also mounted a pair of speakers behind the console grille to add spatiality to the sound. I am not an audiophile, but I am quite happy with the sound. David Lieb From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Apr 28 13:31:59 2008 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: <003d01c8a963$d48dfa30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <6E5FA15D-EDCF-4B0E-895F-7E2C761FFD10@comcast.net> <003d01c8a963$d48dfa30$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4816262F.5010005@verizon.net> Years ago I found an older Radio Shack (can't remember the brand, but it was a RS-own brand) that fit's the console perfectly. Then found two dual-cone speakers that fit the console as well - side by side in a custom frame. As for what's on?? We have two full-time jazz stations here in central North Carolina so I got's bebop, blues, trad, west-coast cool, hard bop, latin, and more all day all night. We be down wit' dat bro'. chuck From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 13:37:34 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Starter with 5 Speed In-Reply-To: <029c01c8a8e3$18f54970$0200a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <837566.90775.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yep - Clearance problem - Can be modified to fit if you just have to have one. At least that was what i have been told. Never seen one - i am sure some one has done it. Vigil Mark wrote: Has any body tried one of the new high torque starters with a Rivergate 5 speed kit? I have a worn ring gear and might try a modern starter that engages from the front to buy me some time. Do I recall that there is a clearance problem ? Thanks, Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From ricksnover at earthlink.net Mon Apr 28 13:41:20 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:41:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Only 2 days left for Conclave 2008 early registration discount Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20080428124112.02eb7238@popd.ix.netcom.com> Hi All, In case you missed the announcement, last month the AHCSD Conclave 2008 Committee decided extend the $20 discount for early registration to April 30th. That's this Wednesday, the day after tomorrow! If you're planning to attend the Meet, and would like to save yourself a few bucks, visit http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com NOW and register. Hope to see you here, Rick PS, Even if you miss the early registration discount, our special discounted room rates at the Sheraton will still be available on reservations until May 31st. Be sure to mention "Conclave 2008" when you call to reserve your room. PPS, Among those who've already registered and indicated that they wanted to participate in the Gymkhana, the Committee has only received a couple completed Gymkhana forms. If you're planning to run the Gymkhana, you also need to visit http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com/ and print, complete and return the form. -- Rick Snover, San Diego, California, USA Vice President (Membership), Activities Committee Chairman & Webmaster Austin-Healey Club of San Diego http://www.sdhealey.org 1964 Sprite Mk III (driver), 1959 Speedwell Sprite (vintage racer: VARA http://www.vararacing.com), 1961 3000 Mk II "Tri-Carb" (being restored) and 1955 100 (pieces in storage) From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Apr 28 14:38:59 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:38:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear spring hanger In-Reply-To: <609048.41566.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <609048.41566.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1201D214055847E49F049AAF834B0FEC@Home> > Not to turn it around, but can you post pictures > somewhere of what you're describing? Maxime's pictures are far better than mine, as they show the interior of the problem area. The first of his sequence shows a captive nut just to the left of an oval hole. That nut is also welded to a vertical triangular piece like the one shown on the right of the oval hole. The corner carrying that nut, part of it vertical and part horizontal, is what has torn out. The remainder of the area is sound. Maxime replaced the entire area, which is more than I need. Maybe all I need is an L-shaped piece for the corner holding the nut, but the entire seam shown aft of the oval is weak right across the car, so I feel like I should do something for the whole thing. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From ricksnover at earthlink.net Mon Apr 28 14:42:24 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:42:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Only 2 days left for Conclave 2008 early registration discount In-Reply-To: <6.2.2.1.2.20080428124112.02eb7238@popd.ix.netcom.com> References: <6.2.2.1.2.20080428124112.02eb7238@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20080428134206.076ec8e0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Doh! I was filling out my Gymkhana form, and I just noticed that there's a deadline! At 12:41 PM 4/28/2008, Rick Snover wrote: >...If you're planning to run the Gymkhana, you also need to visit >http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com/ and print, complete and return the form. PRIOR TO MAY 1st. That's this Thursday, so you'll probably need to scan and email it to mailto:clsharp100 at aol.com. The classes and the number of trophies will be determined by these forms getting submitted, so if you want your car to be in a class where it can compete for a trophy you should get busy soon. Rick From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 15:45:07 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:45:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Radio Message-ID: <042820082145.7130.48164563000D33B200001BDA2216554886C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Not much help with radio installation, but if you want a super radio station, if you like bluegrass music, go to: http://www.wdvx.com/webcast.html WDVX is a very small 200-watt station in Knoxville Tennessee that used to broadcast out of a camper trailer here in Norris, TN. They have a world-wide audience through the web. Give a listen. Betcha like it. One of their female broadcasters, Red Hickey (yep, that's her name) was recently featured in a Southern Living Magazine article. --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 16:20:19 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:20:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> Peter C wrote: > Clutch and calipers are 3/8-24 > Rear wheel cyls are 1/4-20 (I think. Depends on brand of cylinder. > Could be Eyetalian and metric.) > 1/4 x 28 on the Lockheed rear cyls. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From peter at nosimport.com Mon Apr 28 16:23:46 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:23:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080428172322.03995c28@nosimport.com> At 05:20 PM 4/28/2008, Frank Clarici wrote: >Peter C wrote: >>Clutch and calipers are 3/8-24 >>Rear wheel cyls are 1/4-20 (I think. Depends on brand of cylinder. >>Could be Eyetalian and metric.) >> > >1/4 x 28 on the Lockheed rear cyls. Yeah... what he said. >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 16:26:51 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:26:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48164F2B.2000200@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > There's no good music on radio. > > And I found a new New York station that was playing some X And you say there is no good tunes on the radio ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Apr 28 16:32:25 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:32:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> References: <042820081803.17027.4816115A00040125000042832216566276000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <48165079.9080604@comcast.net> My kids gave me a Kentwood CD, MP3. AM/FM radio for my birthday. I just put it in my Sprite for the trip to Missouri. It fit fine in the stock later console. It replaced a Sony X-plode cassette tape player. And in the 67, I know that 8-track player is 6" deep, it fits, it might crease the vinyl on the panel behind the radio, but they fit. I just use the mounting holes on the ears of the console, this gives you a little breathing room by tilting the console just a bit for the 6" radios. Do NOT get on with the rear entry antenna hole, find something with a side entry antenna or a pig tail for the antenna. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Apr 28 16:37:33 2008 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com><7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <14454a368d3a37722a37be7a.20080428153733.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Well then, the part number would be SB1428. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Frank Clarici > Peter C wrote: >> Clutch and calipers are 3/8-24 >> Rear wheel cyls are 1/4-20 (I think. Depends on brand of cylinder. >> Could be Eyetalian and metric.) >> > > 1/4 x 28 on the Lockheed rear cyls. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 28 18:19:55 2008 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:19:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Modern radio Message-ID: <000c01c8a98e$c0a8fe90$01fea8c0@HOMEPC> Frank doesn't need a modern radio because he has a modern 8 Track genuine tape player. I wonder where he gets his tapes?? From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 17:41:12 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > When you're done with these two others guys who are > rolling in the mud > at the track, would you please send them over? John, You sure? I'm talking about Larry and Peter. (just kidding - you guys know I couldn't live without you) Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 17:55:46 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: <48164F2B.2000200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <294451.96963.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Frank Clarici wrote: > And I found a new New York station that was playing > some X > And you say there is no good tunes on the radio ;) The only bad moment of a great day in March was having to unexpectedly drive from my house with Zoom in my wife's AWD car to the X show in Madison in a massive snowstorm. My wife's musical tastes are 180 from mine, and her cd collection was in plain view in the car. 70's AOR at its worst. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Apr 28 18:30:28 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:30:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 11, Issue 53 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:40 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > I know some of you may complain about this, but i want some tunes > with my engine noise. There is only 5 3/4 inches depth in the > center console and most modern radio are 6" (6 1/2" with wiring) how > did you install yours? and or what model radio did you use. Oh and I > will soon have a working 1974 original AM radio for sale. > thanks > Ryan I added tabs to the console to allow mounting it slightly more forward. I also fabricated a frame out of thin gauge aluminum which I mounted on the front which holds the radio - this I placed over the speaker hole, the radio is angled down slightly to give a bit more room. I then made a boxed shelf which goes in the lower hole left by the radio. The nice thing is placing a CD so that it hits the underside of the dash pad lines it up perfectly with the CD slot. Couldn't have worked out better if I had tried. Took a couple evenings to sort out - If I were to do it again I would just make the frame deeper rather than mess with extending the console. -m From abcoz at hky.com Mon Apr 28 18:46:44 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:46:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? In-Reply-To: <002c01c8a95a$c31679c0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002401c8a992$7f4e0cc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> David, If you choose to be insulted, that is your choice. That was never my intention. Sounds to me like you're being a bit over-sensitive, but, like I said..... My recommendation had little to do with originality, but everything to do with what I've found to be the most reliable & practical way to deliver fuel to the engine. It's worked flawlessly, for me, for the past 43 years and approximately 500,000 miles (no, not in the same car.....I spread it out over three of them). My experiences have taught me that the overwhelming majority of problems, experienced by Brit car owners, are caused by ignorance, incompetence and misuse. As one of my good friends (a BMC dealer mechanic) once said: "These cars are TORTURED. It's amazing that they hold up as well as they do." There is not a one of us (myself included) who has not been guilty, at one time or another, of committing one or more of the above listed sins. I just have a real problem with the never-ending practice of blaming Lucas, or SU, or MG/Austin-Healey for our own screw-ups. Re: your last paragraph. The idea was not to insult, but to jolt some folks awake, and maybe get them to do some rational, analytical thinking, before taking the easy way out and blaming the car. Somehow, I think the List will forgive me for that. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:08 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] correct Fuel pump? > I suggest you ignore recommendations for any non-original fuel pump, as > anyone complaining of unreliability (of the original type fuel pump) is > either badly misinformed, or too technically incompetent to figure out > how to keep the original type performing correctly. I suggest that you ignore recommendations from the originality nuts as well. None of the Spridgets I have ever bought have come with a functional SU pump. None of the aftermarket pumps that they did have ever gave me a lick of trouble. Bud, argumentum ad hominum is not particularly appreciated here. Feel free to make your recommendations, but enough of insulting everybody who might not happen to agree with you. David Lieb From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Mon Apr 28 18:37:51 2008 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:37:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] modern radio insatllation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <621C224C-F939-4657-9BF9-34030463E1C9@dartmouth.edu> Meant to add that the radio has a removable face plate - Pioneer brand, CD,WMA,MP3,iPod jack. Good speakers and a power amp helps. -m On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:30 PM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > On Apr 28, 2008, at 7:40 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > >> I know some of you may complain about this, but i want some tunes >> with my engine noise. There is only 5 3/4 inches depth in the >> center console and most modern radio are 6" (6 1/2" with wiring) >> how did you install yours? and or what model radio did you use. Oh >> and I will soon have a working 1974 original AM radio for sale. >> thanks >> Ryan > > I added tabs to the console to allow mounting it slightly more > forward. > > I also fabricated a frame out of thin gauge aluminum which I mounted > on the front which holds the radio - this I placed over the speaker > hole, the radio is angled down slightly to give a bit more room. I > then made a boxed shelf which goes in the lower hole left by the > radio. > > The nice thing is placing a CD so that it hits the underside of the > dash pad lines it up perfectly with the CD slot. Couldn't have > worked out better if I had tried. > > Took a couple evenings to sort out - If I were to do it again I > would just make the frame deeper rather than mess with extending the > console. > > -m From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Apr 28 19:00:56 2008 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:00:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Note from Paul A Message-ID: <0a2201c8a994$7c61d760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi all, It's been beyond my belief how all of you have and are supporting me in my temporary illness. All your good wishes and your most welcome cash contributions sent though Pete Shull to me. That has been most welcome and has been used very nicely at the pharmacy. Thanks so much. As a contributor, I'm personally happy to contribute but as a recipient, I'm almost embarrassed to receive it. Funny how things can shift in life and in your mind. The Drs, diagnoses as to Multiple Myaloma is accurate and the medications they have prescribed are seemingly right on target for the ailment. The visits to the Oncology group are now starting to be further apart and I'm also starting to be out of bed more hours a day. I'm still pretty weak, but starting to do some work a couple times a week at my bench. Yes, I'm still shipping the 5 speed kits, so they are now going out the door OK. I'm staying at my GF's house about 50 miles away so I'm only getting messages off my machine and the computer. For the most part, I'm getting on back to them, so keep in contact. If I have missed any groups with this message, feel free to forward it on to them. Your support has really overwhelmed me and I'm not sure how I can ever repay all of you for it. It has been more than I've ever expected it to be. You need to focus a bit on Pete Shull now. He's not feeling well from his recent bout with arthritis and chest pains. He has labored for me, now I think it's time to let him know how you feel about him. He's done a Herculean job, all the while he has felt a lot less than well. Thanks again for all the support all of you have given me. It's an incredible experience being supportted by such a nice bunch of folks on assorted message groups. Thank you, thank you thank you!!! All the best, Paul A From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Apr 28 19:47:26 2008 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:47:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Note from Paul A In-Reply-To: <0a2201c8a994$7c61d760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <0a2201c8a994$7c61d760$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <706089763.20080428184726@pacifier.com> Hello Paul, my belief is that repayment is what WE are trying to do for YOU. It is easy to give money. It it much harder to give the TIME that you have given to ALL of US. ... Your thanx and health is all we could ever want. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite HAN8L49403 Excuse me, I have to recharge my flamethrower. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Apr 28 19:55:43 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:55:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question References: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Deikis, John G" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > When you're done with these two others guys who are > rolling in the mud > at the track, would you please send them over? John, You sure? I'm talking about Larry and Peter. (just kidding - you guys know I couldn't live without you) Ron ============================= John, PPP and I are pretty loyal to Ron (much to his dismay), but we can be bought with some good micro-brew (we are both a bit partial to Stout and Porter) or Martinis or Manhattans. Be aware, though, that Ron lets Peter torque his (lug) nuts. I'm not quite sure what to make of that. Larry From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Apr 28 21:01:45 2008 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:01:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Bleeder part number In-Reply-To: <14454a368d3a37722a37be7a.20080428153733.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <16C5166B-2324-43F2-A5BF-DC2EE16E682A@mac.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20080428104839.03b56168@nosimport.com> <48164DA3.5090201@comcast.net> <14454a368d3a37722a37be7a.20080428153733.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: Thanks to everyone, the parts are ordered. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) 2000 Miata Special Edition On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:37 PM, rrengineer at dslextreme.com wrote: > Well then, the part number would be SB1428. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > Frank Clarici >> Peter C wrote: >>> Clutch and calipers are 3/8-24 >>> Rear wheel cyls are 1/4-20 (I think. Depends on brand of cylinder. >>> Could be Eyetalian and metric.) >>> >> >> 1/4 x 28 on the Lockheed rear cyls. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Apr 28 22:20:34 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:20:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804282120p762fcefevbd6ee15e15fcd506@mail.gmail.com> On 4/28/08, Larry Daniels wrote: Ron lets Peter torque his nuts. Eeewwwwwwwwww!!!!!! Too much information!!! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Apr 28 23:34:43 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804282120p762fcefevbd6ee15e15fcd506@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <541352.59081.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jim Johnson wrote: > Ron lets Peter torque his nuts. > Eeewwwwwwwwww!!!!!! Too much information!!! Peter stops when he hears the clicks. Larry never seemed to want to stop. Deikis, still interested? 'hopper ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 29 06:10:20 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] CD Player Install Message-ID: <788125.8129.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ryan, I agree with what Frank C. responded. As long as you've got a CD player with antenna jack on the side or a on a cable. I put a Sony CD AM/FM receiver in there. I do need to leave the bottom ears on the console out about a 1/2" and you will need to redrill new top hole and use a little longer screw but I can change radio channels and change CD's as long as car is in 2nd or 4th gear. Not an issue. Set of 6 x 9"'s in the back shelf and Miata Seats going in for this Spring with headrest speakers. Spare XM Radio going in as well so Channel 74 Bluesville will be rocking in Bugsy. PS Consider extending the fuseholder on the power supply so it is not located behind the console. Don'rt ask me how I know said he as he needed to dismantle the console this weekend after blowing a fuse when reconnecting the battery. PSPS Also consider a small SPDT switch that you can use to switch radio on/off. One side goes to a switched source that goes on when ignition switch is turned on, the other goes to an always on source. Center post goes to power wire on radio. I mounted little mini switch out of site under the dash. One way normal operation, the other way I can listen to tunes with car off. Mount to bottom of dash bracket on left side of dash. Simple to set up and use. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From apexshot at att.net Tue Apr 29 07:15:07 2008 From: apexshot at att.net (James Coppage) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block Message-ID: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello everyone, I have a older AHS or Austin Healy Sprite it the one with the half rear leaf spring. It has many thickness of rust so it would be a poor car for the rebuild. So I have a need for speed so I am planning on building a rocket ship for Auto x using a Datsun engine and a Datsun 5 speed but having a difficult time locating engine parts. Any ideas! Or would I better off to use a different engine due to its too old? Jim From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Apr 29 10:08:48 2008 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:08:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Larry: Just last night I was looking through recipes to have something ready for Grattan. I was thinking of something a bit more summery than stout, though. How about an American Pale Ale? I'd trade Peter 5 gallons for a set of rear shocks (exchange, of course). -JohnD ============================= John, PPP and I are pretty loyal to Ron (much to his dismay), but we can be bought with some good micro-brew (we are both a bit partial to Stout and Porter) or Martinis or Manhattans. Be aware, though, that Ron lets Peter torque his (lug) nuts. I'm not quite sure what to make of that. Larry From peter at nosimport.com Tue Apr 29 10:19:30 2008 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:19:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: References: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20080429111502.03817320@nosimport.com> Well now, that would be well shaken by the time I got home in the Mini, or even the Ute, mis-spent as it is. Or, we could consume in situ. Pity the racers, and they had better have fixed the pissoir at Grattan, which is (singular) substandard at best, like the track surface. Peter = At 11:08 AM 4/29/2008, Deikis, John G wrote: >Larry: >Just last night I was looking through recipes to have something ready >for Grattan. I was thinking of something a bit more summery than stout, >though. How about an American Pale Ale? I'd trade Peter 5 gallons for >a set of rear shocks (exchange, of course). >-JohnD > > >============================= > >John, > >PPP and I are pretty loyal to Ron (much to his dismay), but we can be >bought >with some good micro-brew (we are both a bit partial to Stout and >Porter) or >Martinis or Manhattans. > >Be aware, though, that Ron lets Peter torque his (lug) nuts. I'm not >quite >sure what to make of that. > >Larry From hannamj at juno.com Tue Apr 29 10:37:37 2008 From: hannamj at juno.com (Mark & Joanna) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:37:37 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking Speedo Needle Message-ID: <20080429.103737.15164.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Hi All, I have a '59 Sprite. The speedo needle rises with speed. It does not fall when slowing the car down. When I take the speedometer apart what pieces get lubricated and with what type of lubricant? Or is there some other defect that could be causing this problem? Thanks Folks, Mark (Colorado) _____________________________________________________________ Low Cost Government Loans. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiekOwwCzyBCHl4ZZ0sk7Jw6rXzx ESXMPR9GZ3y6xEJPrMZVS/?count=1234567890 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 29 11:28:08 2008 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sticking Speedo Needle In-Reply-To: <20080429.103737.15164.1@webmail09.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <531629.96281.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bent needle dragging on the instrument face? Mark & Joanna wrote: Hi All, I have a '59 Sprite. The speedo needle rises with speed. It does not fall when slowing the car down. When I take the speedometer apart what pieces get lubricated and with what type of lubricant? Or is there some other defect that could be causing this problem? Thanks Folks, Mark (Colorado) _____________________________________________________________ Low Cost Government Loans. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iiekOwwCzyBCHl4ZZ0sk7Jw6rXzx ESXMPR9GZ3y6xEJPrMZVS/?count=1234567890 You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From smarc at smarc.net Tue Apr 29 12:19:51 2008 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:19:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp gauge repair Message-ID: <481766C7.203@smarc.net> Has anyone ever attempted a Smiths capillary temp gauge repair? Like this: http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge Seems reasonably simple (in theory)... I haven't been able to find any combo temp/oil press gauges less then about $150... -- Marc From conan at intrex.net Tue Apr 29 12:43:18 2008 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:43:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block Message-ID: <200804291443.AA292028726@intrex.net> >>...so I am planning on building a rocket ship for Auto x using a Datsun engine and a Datsun 5 speed but having a difficult time locating engine parts. Any ideas! Or would I better off to use a different engine due to its too old? Howdy Jim! First off, you can start by checking with Nissan. For years they've put out an excellent performance and race parts catalog. (I'm ass-u-ming they still do. ;-) ) Tons of stuff out there for their engines and cars, both factory and aftermarket. Ed in NC From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Tue Apr 29 15:21:11 2008 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:21:11 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Modern radio Message-ID: <042920082121.20725.481791470003EED0000050F52216527966C0C9C0C99D0A0C020E040B@comcast.net> Uh. . .Good Will? 8^) --David C. If 4 out of 5 people SUFFER from diarrhea... does that mean that one enjoys it? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Jim Fournier" > Frank doesn't need a modern radio because he has a modern 8 Track genuine tape > player. I wonder where he gets his tapes?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Tue Apr 29 18:08:56 2008 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (mdmyers_ct at juno.com) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:08:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] E-mail-A-Friend: Woodbury rescue trainer puts patriotism into his business plan Message-ID: <200804292308.m3TN8vFP026455@web19.ch2.l3.sys.townnews.com> Comment: Sounds like someone Frank would get along with... --- Story: Woodbury rescue trainer puts patriotism into his business plan WOODBURY b Tom Ashmore is full of surprises. He's an ex-Marine, a veteran of the war in Vietnam, a winner of three Purple Heart medals, a former police officer, and a self-described super patriot who deeply loves his country. He is a businessman who owns a tactical training company in Woodbury, and he has recently and publicly announced that he will no longer purchase goods and supplies made in any communist country, including China. For more of this story, click on or type the URL below: http://www.rep-am.com/articles/2008/04/28/business/336404.txt -------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail contains information for the purpose of tracking abuse. If you believe this email is offensive or may be considered spam, please visit the website http://abuse.townnews.com and create an incident report. From this site you can also block messages like this from sending to your email address. Please retain this Mail-ID [c090bb0c724fdbde87c08107f225c33d], it's needed to view information associated with this message. 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And, Peter, considering the (leftover) brew would be shaken and stirred, I'm thinkng the inevitable explosions would be less harmful in the bed of the Ute than inside your Mini. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Deikis, John G" ; "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question > Well now, that would be well shaken by the time I got home in the Mini, or > even the Ute, mis-spent as it is. > Or, we could consume in situ. > Pity the racers, and they had better have fixed the pissoir at Grattan, > which is (singular) substandard at best, like the track surface. > > Peter > = > > At 11:08 AM 4/29/2008, Deikis, John G wrote: >>Larry: >>Just last night I was looking through recipes to have something ready >>for Grattan. I was thinking of something a bit more summery than stout, >>though. How about an American Pale Ale? I'd trade Peter 5 gallons for >>a set of rear shocks (exchange, of course). >>-JohnD >> >> >>============================= >> >>John, >> >>PPP and I are pretty loyal to Ron (much to his dismay), but we can be >>bought >>with some good micro-brew (we are both a bit partial to Stout and >>Porter) or >>Martinis or Manhattans. >> >>Be aware, though, that Ron lets Peter torque his (lug) nuts. I'm not >>quite >>sure what to make of that. >> >>Larry From abcoz at hky.com Tue Apr 29 19:39:27 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:39:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top Message-ID: <001701c8aa63$06e033e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Trying one more time to get some input. Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:14 PM To: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Spridgets] tops During a 200+ mile drive, through the mountains, this past Saturday (and, yes, my '72 Midget still puts a big grin on my face every time I drive it), it became very obvious that it is time for a new top. Since I will also need a new top for my '73 Midget restoration project (now in final stages, before color is applied), I thought I would ask the List about which vendor offers the most correct convertible top. I rarely put the top up, but, when I do, I like to stay reasonably dry. I'm also thinking about a zip-out rear window, as I really liked that feature on my '78 Spitfire, many, many years ago. Thanks for any information & suggestions offered. Bud Osbourne _______________________________________________ From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Apr 29 19:48:33 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:48:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spit hardtop cheap Message-ID: <4817CFF1.7000108@comcast.net> I rescued it out of the scrap metal mans truck I got it cheap, I do not have a Spitfire, nor am I on the Spit list so email me direct. I will not try to ship this thing either, pick up in central NJ. It's not real pretty, has no glass or rubber but it's a restorable metal hardtop which I think is for a Spitfire MKIV & 1500 Check out the pic to make sure. http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/spittop.jpg $50 works for me. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Apr 29 21:12:47 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:12:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Arching Distributor Message-ID: <430EB7A5354545DDA7BE24495F15C25B@Home> Removal of the plug wire to cylinder 1 causes arching from the base of the wire in the distributor to the nearest ground (cap holder). The wires and cap are new, and the same arching occurs using an old cap and wires. There is no arching when any other wires are removed. Any ideas? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From d.swanson at earthlink.net Wed Apr 30 05:15:07 2008 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:15:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Temp gauge repair Message-ID: <0480640670BB43D0A437782B536686CB@HomeComputer> I have a co-worked that did perform the gauge repair successfully following the instructions from the web site; his bit of advice is: "Tell him the repair works but only if the gauge was in good shape before and if the needle is sitting on the left side peg." Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Temp gauge repair Has anyone ever attempted a Smiths capillary temp gauge repair? Like this: http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge Seems reasonably simple (in theory)... I haven't been able to find any combo temp/oil press gauges less then about $150... -- Marc From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 05:57:55 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:57:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Temp gauge repair In-Reply-To: <0480640670BB43D0A437782B536686CB@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <002601c8aab9$6d20d8c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Somewhere, I seem to remember someone (Nisonger?) offering a rebuilding service for those units. That might be your best bet, as an accurate, reliable temp gauge is a far cheaper investment than having to rebuild a "cooked" engine. The good news is that, if you are careful not to disturb the capillary line; they last a long time. The one I replaced (with a new, BL dealer stock unit) in my '72 Midget, 26 years ago, is still functioning perfectly. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:15 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Temp gauge repair I have a co-worked that did perform the gauge repair successfully following the instructions from the web site; his bit of advice is: "Tell him the repair works but only if the gauge was in good shape before and if the needle is sitting on the left side peg." Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+d.swanson=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Temp gauge repair Has anyone ever attempted a Smiths capillary temp gauge repair? Like this: http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge Seems reasonably simple (in theory)... I haven't been able to find any combo temp/oil press gauges less then about $150... -- Marc From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Apr 30 06:42:35 2008 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:42:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Arcing Distributor In-Reply-To: <48186575.20005@srvinet.com> References: <430EB7A5354545DDA7BE24495F15C25B@Home> <48186575.20005@srvinet.com> Message-ID: <2A6288D2D77E4766B44B566FFF91FE2A@Home> Alright, already. It's arcing. It occurs when the wire is removed from the plug, but only on cylinder 1, from the distributor end to ground, not plug end to ground. The plug is fine. What condition not related to a bad distributor cap can cause grounding when there is no plug? For example, I think the (used) coil may be higher voltage than stock, and the stock insulation may be inadequate for pin 1, which is relatively close to the cap holder gadget. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY I would guess that this > means that there is too much resistance at the plug for some reason. From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 07:14:30 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:14:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <001701c8aa63$06e033e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <003101c8aac4$1fc56040$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> I've been getting some good information from several "listers", and I'm grateful for it. So far, I'm leaning toward Prestige Auto Tops, in the UK. I've also emailed Ian MacGregor (MacGregor British Car Parts) for some details on the tops he is selling, since Ian provided such excellent service on another (hard top) parts order. I checked out AA Best's website, but it doesn't give very much information about the tops they are offering. I've requested additional information. On a related note, I was pleased to see that Prestige offers a top for my MkI Midget in blue, which was the original color. Since I'm also working on the Mk I, and hope to have it in color by the end of summer, I may also order the top for it from them. If anyone has anything to ad to the above, I'd sure like to hear from you. Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 8:39 PM To: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top Trying one more time to get some input. Thanks. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:14 PM To: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: [Spridgets] tops During a 200+ mile drive, through the mountains, this past Saturday (and, yes, my '72 Midget still puts a big grin on my face every time I drive it), it became very obvious that it is time for a new top. Since I will also need a new top for my '73 Midget restoration project (now in final stages, before color is applied), I thought I would ask the List about which vendor offers the most correct convertible top. I rarely put the top up, but, when I do, I like to stay reasonably dry. I'm also thinking about a zip-out rear window, as I really liked that feature on my '78 Spitfire, many, many years ago. Thanks for any information & suggestions offered. Bud Osbourne From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 07:37:35 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:37:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seat belt information needed Message-ID: <003501c8aac7$59f37380$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> The original inertia reel belts, in my '72 Midget, are getting a bit tired, and I'm sure that 36 years of UV exposure hasn't done the belt webbing any good, either. I need some information/advice on who is offering the best replacements. While I dont care at all for the receiver end (the end that attaches to the tunnel), as it keeps the lap belt up too high; I do like the OE belt arrangement, overall. As I recall, the belts for the Midget are the same ones used in the B, so my first impulse is to contact my friends at The Roadster Factory, and see what they have to offer. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Bud Osbourne From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 07:53:23 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:53:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <003101c8aac4$1fc56040$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <001701c8aa63$06e033e0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <003101c8aac4$1fc56040$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804300653n754f7410sade9ca802075e0e1@mail.gmail.com> I put a <$200 ebay top on my Miata and I am pleased with it. Installation is a long painful process. But, you don't have to spend $500 on a top. On the other hand the $500 tops are nice, too. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 08:20:22 2008 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Bonnet Seal Mk1 Sprite vs. Mk4 Sprite Message-ID: <167153.31783.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey does anyone know if the shape of the lip of the cowl is the same on a Bugeye as on a later Mk 4 Sprite. I need to order a Bonnet Seal so my forward tiliting Buyeye Bonnet can be final fitted to Bugsy. I'm guessing the shape is the same but it's only a guess. Anyone know for sure? And yes I know the Moss stuff does not fit right. Ordering from McGregor. Nice folks over the phone. Jim Gruber Bugsy '68 Bugeye Sprite Cincinnati, OH --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 09:00:30 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:00:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804300653n754f7410sade9ca802075e0e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004601c8aad2$ef2cbdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Thanks, Derf. Whatever I buy, I'm going to have it professionally installed. I figure I'll spend $250-$350 on the top; I want it to be right, and with no screw-ups (the top that came on the car, 26 years ago, appears to have been an amateur installation). Since my comfort zones are fitting & welding, and mechanical work, I'll continue to stick with what I do best. We have a guy, in Indiana, PA (about 2 hrs drive, for me), who does beautiful work and at a very reasonable price (like $75). I've watched him install a few tops, during his annual demonstration, at The Roadster Factory Summer Party, and he REALLY knows his stuff. Gets it done in under an hour, as I recall, including pausing to answer questions from the audience. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:53 AM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top I put a <$200 ebay top on my Miata and I am pleased with it. Installation is a long painful process. But, you don't have to spend $500 on a top. On the other hand the $500 tops are nice, too. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 09:15:19 2008 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <004601c8aad2$ef2cbdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <5f00d9910804300653n754f7410sade9ca802075e0e1@mail.gmail.com> <004601c8aad2$ef2cbdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910804300815l3b51f0d9wc668cf4d979d5555@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, get your guy to do it. I would gladly pay $75 every time for a pro to do it. You should be able to find a nice top for your price range. M*$$ and VB sell nice tops but I think they are overpriced. I would tell your guy how much you want to spend and let him recommend a top. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Apr 30 10:03:52 2008 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:03:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top References: <004601c8aad2$ef2cbdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <006d01c8aadb$c991e280$b501a8c0@YOURF074400E59> Bud, when I had the top put on my wife's MGB, it was not exactly a perfect fit. Not bad, but not perfect. The installer said I should have had him order it as then, if there was a problem with it, he could send it back. The price he quoted me for a top was literally within a couple dollars of what I paid. There was nothing he could do for me on the one I provided. A lesson learned. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'derf'" Cc: "'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net'" Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top > Thanks, Derf. Whatever I buy, I'm going to have it professionally > installed. I figure I'll spend $250-$350 on the top; I want it to be > right, and with no screw-ups (the top that came on the car, 26 years > ago, appears to have been an amateur installation). Since my comfort > zones are fitting & welding, and mechanical work, I'll continue to stick > with what I do best. We have a guy, in Indiana, PA (about 2 hrs drive, > for me), who does beautiful work and at a very reasonable price (like > $75). I've watched him install a few tops, during his annual > demonstration, at The Roadster Factory Summer Party, and he REALLY knows > his stuff. Gets it done in under an hour, as I recall, including > pausing to answer questions from the audience. > Bud Osbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:53 AM > To: Bud Osbourne > Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top > > I put a <$200 ebay top on my Miata and I am pleased with it. > Installation is a long painful process. But, you don't have to spend > $500 on a top. On the other hand the $500 tops are nice, too. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 10:07:15 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:07:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Arcing Distributor In-Reply-To: <2A6288D2D77E4766B44B566FFF91FE2A@Home> Message-ID: > It's arcing. It occurs when the wire is removed That means you have a strong spark at #1. Now figure out what's wrong with the other three. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 10:10:51 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:10:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] seat belt information needed In-Reply-To: <003501c8aac7$59f37380$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: Ask the local upholstery shop for new belts. Keep the hardware you like, replace the parts you don't like. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 10:48:27 2008 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910804300653n754f7410sade9ca802075e0e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <109053.90633.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have not seen the ones on Ebay. The local guy's in LA, California charged $200-250 for a top. Not the best top out there but they work fine. The same guys change $500 for the tops out of much better material. So not all tops are the same quality. Vigil derf wrote: I put a <$200 ebay top on my Miata and I am pleased with it. Installation is a long painful process. But, you don't have to spend $500 on a top. On the other hand the $500 tops are nice, too. You are subscribed as uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From ricksnover at earthlink.net Wed Apr 30 11:04:55 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:04:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Last chance for Conclave 2008 early registration discount Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20080430095243.0292a2f0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Hi All, If you're planning to attend the Conclave 2008 here in San Diego at the end of June, haven't registered yet, and would like to save yourself a 20 bucks, visit http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com and register TODAY, April 30th. You should call the Sheraton at (619) 291-2900 and reserve yours room while you're at it. Be sure to mention rate plan "Conclave 2008" to get the discount. ($129/night instead of $225/night for a standard room, or $149/night instead of $254/night for deluxe (upper floor, water view) room - that's almost 60% off!) Also, if you've registered and are planning to participate in the Gymkhana, you need to get your Gymkhana form to Chuck Sharp (mailto:clsharp100 at aol.com) by TOMORROW, May 1st. Hope to see you here, Rick -- Rick Snover, San Diego, California, USA V.P. (Membership), Activities Chairman & Webmaster, Austin-Healey Club of S.D. http://www.sdhealey.org 2nd V.P. (Membership) & Webmaster, S.D. British Car Club Council http://www.sandiegobritishcarday.org 1964 Sprite Mk III driver, 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA http://www.vararacing.com) From ricksnover at earthlink.net Wed Apr 30 12:13:51 2008 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:13:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Last chance for Conclave 2008 early registration discount Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20080430111345.02c2fb50@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 10:32 AM 4/30/2008, CLSHARP100 at aol.com wrote: At 10:09 AM 4/30/2008, Rick Snover wrote: ...Also, if you've registered and are planning to participate in the Gymkhana (auto cross), you need to get your Gymkhana form to Chuck Sharp ( mailto:clsharp100 at aol.com) by TOMORROW, May 1st. (This form too is available at http://www.austinhealeyconclave.com.) The Gymkhana form can also be faxed to Chuck Sharp at 858-513-1422 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Apr 30 12:52:14 2008 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:52:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Bonnet Seal Mk1 Sprite vs. Mk4 Sprite In-Reply-To: <167153.31783.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <167153.31783.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4818BFDE.4090307@comcast.net> James Gruber wrote: > Hey does anyone know if the shape of the lip of the cowl is the same on a Bugeye as on a later Mk 4 Sprite. Yes, same channel as I had a piece of that rubber on PIECES for the bonnet. I think we had it on the BABE rally car too, that was a 69 with a bugeye nose. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Apr 30 13:22:18 2008 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:22:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] audiovox cruise control Message-ID: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I had some trouble getting the new cruise control to hold speed above 50mph, so I searched the web for answers. If you have one of these and its working great, ignore this. This refers only to an Audiovox CCS100 cruise control in a Spridget. Set the PPM for 8000, set it for ECM, high sensitivity and don't bother with the magnet sensor or VSS wire. Run it "tach only". Without the magnet, its gets all it needs to know from the coil. You can just cut off the fat gray wire. Now, after ignoring all the settings in the manual and setting it as above, it works perfectly. One touch of the button and I'm at 70mph all day. Push in the clutch and it disengages, touch the brake and it shuts off. Missouri here I come!! Sadly, I paid too much ($98). I found it for $10 less the week after I bought it. (Like everything else you buy in life, eh?) Glen Byrns From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 13:30:40 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:30:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] audiovox cruise control In-Reply-To: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: It's your gas money, but I think this is a bad time to be adding cruise control. It really lowers the mileage. BZ From daredelvis at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 13:54:59 2008 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:54:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] audiovox cruise control In-Reply-To: References: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <531383560804301254s6ff9571ayba0bd11cbf144b62@mail.gmail.com> Actually, it is a good time as cruise control increases mileage at any given speed. Holding the steadiest possible speed is the best way to get high mileage. Brian On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:30 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > It's your gas money, but I think this is a bad time to be adding cruise > control. It really lowers the mileage. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmg at bossig.com Wed Apr 30 14:25:03 2008 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:25:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <531383560804301254s6ff9571ayba0bd11cbf144b62@mail.gmail.com> References: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, , <531383560804301254s6ff9571ayba0bd11cbf144b62@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4818732F.31546.171F3F2@dmg.bossig.com> FWIW --- my experience ... I recently had to rent a Nissan Altima for two weeks - an idiot ran a red light and wiped the front off of my vehicle!! Driving the Nissan around town, lots of stop-start driving and using the cruise control as much as possible (even for as short as ~4 blocks) I got 29.6 mpg. Do not use cruise control for going up-hill.... if there is no traffic behind you it is better to use constant throttle position and lose a bit of speed.... because the cruise control witll increase throttle position to maintain speed and thus uses more gas.. On 30 Apr 2008 at 14:54, brian james wrote: >> Actually, it is a good time as cruise control increases mileage at any >> given speed. Holding the steadiest possible speed is the best way to >> get high mileage. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe." ... Albert Einstein. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 15:01:41 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <4818732F.31546.171F3F2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Cruise control lowers mileage considerably. It constantly changes the throttle to maintain a constant speed. Holding constant throttle improves mileage. Trust me on this...an average tour is around 12,000 - 13,000 miles per month, and all of our vehicles are equipped with cruise control, which we don't use because it ruins our mileage and eats up our income. BZ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 30 15:12:23 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:12:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control References: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>, , <531383560804301254s6ff9571ayba0bd11cbf144b62@mail.gmail.com> <4818732F.31546.171F3F2@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <00f301c8ab06$e2dbaca0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Do not use cruise control for going up-hill.... if there is no traffic > behind you > it is better to use constant throttle position and lose a bit of speed.... > because the cruise control witll increase throttle position to maintain > speed > and thus uses more gas.. > > On 30 Apr 2008 at 14:54, brian james wrote: > >>> Actually, it is a good time as cruise control increases mileage at any >>> given speed. Holding the steadiest possible speed is the best way to >>> get high mileage. My VW GTi's computer and I agree with Dave here. For best mileage, be willing to lose speed on the uphills and make it up on the downhills. For that matter, imaginary hills will also improve your mileage, but at the cost of time and the risk of annoying other traffic. David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Apr 30 15:18:12 2008 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:18:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] audiovox cruise control References: <001001c8aaf7$85be3ba0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <00f601c8ab07$b2e5e230$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I had some trouble getting the new cruise control to hold speed above >50mph, > so I searched the web for answers. > If you have one of these and its working great, ignore this. This refers > only > to an Audiovox CCS100 cruise control in a Spridget. > Set the PPM for 8000, set it for ECM, high sensitivity and don't bother > with > the magnet sensor or VSS wire. Run it "tach only". > Without the magnet, its gets all it needs to know from the coil. You can > just > cut off the fat gray wire. Ya know, I almost emailed you when you posted about hooking up the magnet, but you sounded as if was working for you. That is the same result I had with mine. The only conclusion I was able to come up with was that it figured that the rpm of the driveshaft with a 3.9 and 13" tires represented too great of a speed. Like you, I researched and called AudioCVox's tech support to no avail. As soon as I set the switch for tach signal only, I was good to go. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 30 15:44:11 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:44:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake bleed question In-Reply-To: <005701c8aa52$c2b9dd20$b501a8c0@YOURF074400E59> References: <551797.42366.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com><042401c8a99c$23832a10$6401a8c0@Larry><7.0.1.0.2.20080429111502.03817320@nosimport.com> <005701c8aa52$c2b9dd20$b501a8c0@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: I really am getting slow. This went straight by me the first time. I blame it on "too much on my 'little' mind". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" > ... the Ute, mis-spent as it is. > > Peter From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Apr 30 16:17:49 2008 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kate) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:17:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net> I have to agree with this. All my American vehicles are equipped with cruise, but I seldom, if ever, use it. The first reason is that I find it easier to stay awake on long trips if I am actually driving the car, but my fuel economy increases without the cruise. The cruise control is constantly adjusting the throttle which reduces economy any place other than on long, flat, straight roads. People often ask how my old Cherokee manages to get nearly 30 MPG on trips, and I tell them that I don't use the cruise control. I sometimes forget to mention that the emission control system has been disabled, but I'm sure that would have nothing at all to do with fuel economy. Kate Billy Zoom wrote: > Cruise control lowers mileage considerably. It constantly changes the > throttle to maintain a constant speed. > Holding constant throttle improves mileage. From p.herder at cox.net Wed Apr 30 17:04:58 2008 From: p.herder at cox.net (Paul Herder) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:04:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net> References: <4818F00D.5070309@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <4818FB1A.6070702@cox.net> We here in the great FLAT state of Kansas use our CC all the time! Hills? We don't have any stinking hills! ;^) Of course driving into a 40 mph head wind with gusts using the CC also kills the gas mileage... : ( Paul Kate wrote: > I have to agree with this. All my American vehicles are equipped with > cruise, but I seldom, if ever, use it. The first reason is that I find > it easier to stay awake on long trips if I am actually driving the car, > but my fuel economy increases without the cruise. The cruise control is > constantly adjusting the throttle which reduces economy any place other > than on long, flat, straight roads. People often ask how my old > Cherokee manages to get nearly 30 MPG on trips, and I tell them that I > don't use the cruise control. I sometimes forget to mention that the > emission control system has been disabled, but I'm sure that would have > nothing at all to do with fuel economy. > > Kate > > Billy Zoom wrote: > >> Cruise control lowers mileage considerably. It constantly changes the >> throttle to maintain a constant speed. >> Holding constant throttle improves mileage. >> > __ From kvacek at ameritech.net Wed Apr 30 17:40:22 2008 From: kvacek at ameritech.net (Karl Vacek) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] '67 and later Lockheed brake MC primary piston needed Message-ID: <001201c8ab1b$8f3aef10$6e01a8c0@KARL> Has anyone got a good primary (outer - the long smooth one that the outer spring goes over) piston for a Lockheed brake master cylinder from a '67 and later Spridget available for sale ? Thanks! Karl Vacek From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 19:02:27 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:02:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <4818FB1A.6070702@cox.net> Message-ID: > We here in the great FLAT state of Kansas I hope it's accurate. We've been pulled over in Kansas for going 1.5 mph over the limit. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Apr 30 19:34:01 2008 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:34:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: References: <4818FB1A.6070702@cox.net> Message-ID: Really?! Up here, if you are doing 120 in a 100 ( kms ) zone and pass through a radar trap, they just let you keep on going. -----Original Message----- > We here in the great FLAT state of Kansas I hope it's accurate. We've been pulled over in Kansas for going 1.5 mph over the limit. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 20:06:14 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:06:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: References: <4818FB1A.6070702@cox.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804301906u1f311e1bpfa48f724f0e8cde6@mail.gmail.com> If you'd offered the cop Preparation H as a "cheer me upper", you'd still be rotting in some little cell just down the road from me... ;-) Maybe the cop just didn't like pinko, commie, hippie, rock musician reprobates... ;-) Next time try wearing bib overalls, a seed corn cap and drive a beat to hell old pickup. You can do anything you want to then..... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > We here in the great FLAT state of Kansas > I hope it's accurate. We've been pulled over in Kansas for going 1.5 mph > over the limit. From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed Apr 30 20:12:45 2008 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:12:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control References: Message-ID: <001d01c8ab30$d8ed0110$9cfb6846@DBKF4T81> I was born and raised in Kansas. First, if you're out and about in the boonies (of which there are several) you are immediately gonna draw yourself some attention. Second, if you are identified as a "furriner" your will immediately be held suspect. Third, like so many other small municipalities throughout our nation, speed traps and the like can be considered an essential source of revenue. In my day Kechi, Kansas, which is in the south-central part of the state, was infamous for citing infractions for furriners based upon fractions, as in: "Well, looky there. Tags say that car is from north-central Kansas. That means the guy's a more than 100 miles away from home and is a furriner and just gotta be up to no good. Let's go give him a ticket, even if we have to make something up." A friend of mine in New England says Island Pond, Vermont, can be the same kind of place. Says he got a ticket because the factory-installed mudflaps on his truck were an inch or so too high off the pavement. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > I hope it's accurate. We've been pulled over in Kansas for going 1.5 mph > over the limit. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 20:18:08 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:18:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <001d01c8ab30$d8ed0110$9cfb6846@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: > like so many other small municipalities > throughout our nation, speed traps and the like can be considered an > essential source of revenue. No, that was Wisconsin. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Apr 30 20:24:37 2008 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:24:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0804301906u1f311e1bpfa48f724f0e8cde6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Maybe the cop just didn't like pinko, commie, hippie, rock musician > reprobates... ;-) That would have made us soul mates. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Wed Apr 30 21:05:18 2008 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:05:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Boone, NC? No LBC Message-ID: <31721269.1209611118861.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> Hey, I'll be on vacation in Boone, NC from 5/2 until 5/9. Any listers in the area that might want to meet up? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest acquisition 1973 Midget PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 21:31:03 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:31:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] seat belt information needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <006701c8ab3b$c8b0a8a0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that one. I'll look into it. Thanks, Billy. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:11 AM To: Bud Osbourne; Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] seat belt information needed Ask the local upholstery shop for new belts. Keep the hardware you like, replace the parts you don't like. From abcoz at hky.com Wed Apr 30 21:32:56 2008 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:32:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top In-Reply-To: <006d01c8aadb$c991e280$b501a8c0@YOURF074400E59> Message-ID: <006801c8ab3c$0c3a6480$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Another angle I hadn't thought of. Thanks, Larry. I'll see if I can do it that way. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:04 AM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: 'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top Bud, when I had the top put on my wife's MGB, it was not exactly a perfect fit. Not bad, but not perfect. The installer said I should have had him order it as then, if there was a problem with it, he could send it back. The price he quoted me for a top was literally within a couple dollars of what I paid. There was nothing he could do for me on the one I provided. A lesson learned. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'derf'" Cc: "'Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net'" Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top > Thanks, Derf. Whatever I buy, I'm going to have it professionally > installed. I figure I'll spend $250-$350 on the top; I want it to be > right, and with no screw-ups (the top that came on the car, 26 years > ago, appears to have been an amateur installation). Since my comfort > zones are fitting & welding, and mechanical work, I'll continue to stick > with what I do best. We have a guy, in Indiana, PA (about 2 hrs drive, > for me), who does beautiful work and at a very reasonable price (like > $75). I've watched him install a few tops, during his annual > demonstration, at The Roadster Factory Summer Party, and he REALLY knows > his stuff. Gets it done in under an hour, as I recall, including > pausing to answer questions from the audience. > Bud Osbourne > > -----Original Message----- > From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:53 AM > To: Bud Osbourne > Cc: Spridgets at Autox. Team. Net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: advice/recommendations needed for new top > > I put a <$200 ebay top on my Miata and I am pleased with it. > Installation is a long painful process. But, you don't have to spend > $500 on a top. On the other hand the $500 tops are nice, too. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Apr 30 21:38:53 2008 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] cruise control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <406489.73135.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Billy Zoom wrote: > Holding constant throttle improves mileage. So does dropping off engine blocks at people's houses halfway through the tour. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 22:33:14 2008 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Boone, NC? No LBC In-Reply-To: <31721269.1209611118861.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> References: <31721269.1209611118861.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> Message-ID: <43840a7e0804302133n228815cen87fc120bf8d78452@mail.gmail.com> Boone, NC, eh? Can you squeal like a pig.....? ;-) Only kidding for you NC natives.... Cheers!! Jim On 4/30/08, bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com wrote: > > Hey, I'll be on vacation in Boone, NC from 5/2 until 5/9. Any listers in > the area that might want to meet up? > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen - soon to be replaced by the latest > acquisition > 1973 Midget > > PS - anybody need a 1975 shell? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 "Spridget" in Dodge City Don't miss "50 Years of Spridgets" at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info and registration... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 23:26:17 2008 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:26:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Person on the block In-Reply-To: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <208574.90423.qm@web83726.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48195479.3030309@gmail.com> For poop you pants speed check out a Mazda 13B. For real fast check out the Toyota AG4xx engine series. Plenty of go fast parts and you won't be the first to transplant these power plants. Where are you located? Gilroy James Coppage wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I have a older AHS or Austin Healy Sprite it the one with the half rear leaf spring. It has many thickness of rust so it would be a poor car for the rebuild. So I have a need for speed > so I am planning on building a rocket ship for Auto x using a Datsun engine and a Datsun 5 speed but having a difficult time locating engine parts. Any ideas! Or would I better off to use > a different engine due to its too old? > Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets