From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 1 10:10:23 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:10:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 5-speed woes Message-ID: <000601c80445$92abb440$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I felt sooo bloody clever, getting the engine in and out in one weekend. But last night I found that the new clutch still slips when I pound the throttle. Under I go, and discover that the clutch release lever is not retreating far enough. The 3mm spacer I used with the old 5-speed isn't needed with this one, and it keeps the clutch from fully disengaging. So tonight I start taking it out again after dinner. Pisser!!! It will take all of 10 seconds to pop out the spacer. I just wonder whether there is enough skin left on a few knuckles to do it again so soon. Maybe I'll leave it for the weekend and just play with the EFI stuff for a few evenings. Glen From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Oct 1 10:52:20 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings Message-ID: Anybody knowledgeable when it comes to tapered roller bearing conversions on a Spridget? I've been running a Timkin set-up, as described on these pages, several years ago. I want to adjust them to bring the end float down to the "smidgen" tapered bearings seem to like, but one castle notch on the big nut is too tight (binds the hub), and the next one is too loose (more than "just the slightest perceptible movement" of the hub on "6 o'clock-12 o'clock" rocking). So, I need shims, right? 1. Where do I get them? 2. What size and thickness to take up about a "half flat" of the big nut so I can get the cotter back in? 3. Do the shims go between the nut and the big washer or where? Any knowledge would be appreciated. JohnD From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 13:04:59 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> First, try switching the nuts. You may find one works better on the other side. Then, I wouldn't fool around with shims. Just set it a little loose or tight and go with it. I would lean toward the tight side. As long as it turns freely and has no end play, it should be good. Third option is to replace the bearings and see what kind of adjustment you come up with. Have you inspected everything? One notch from binding to too much end play seems too drastic to me. Are you sure the 12-6 rocking play you are feeling is the spindle bearings? More likely the A-arm bushings or lower pin are getting worn. Cheers, Derf From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Oct 1 15:09:50 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:09:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Derf: Thanks. I think if it were A-arm bushings, it would not go away when I tighten up the bearing. One "castle" is really quite a lot in thousandths of an inch, I believe. Although I'm no machinist, so numbers like that don't translate very well into "feel" for me. The fine adjustment is done with shims but I don't know where to get them or where to put them. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:05 PM To: Deikis, John G Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings First, try switching the nuts. You may find one works better on the other side. Then, I wouldn't fool around with shims. Just set it a little loose or tight and go with it. I would lean toward the tight side. As long as it turns freely and has no end play, it should be good. Third option is to replace the bearings and see what kind of adjustment you come up with. Have you inspected everything? One notch from binding to too much end play seems too drastic to me. Are you sure the 12-6 rocking play you are feeling is the spindle bearings? More likely the A-arm bushings or lower pin are getting worn. Cheers, Derf From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Oct 1 15:17:05 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:17:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003901c80470$6f44b080$4dce1180$@com> If you try McMaster_carr they have shims in all different sizes and diamaters. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Deikis, John G [mailto:John.Deikis at va.gov] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:10 PM To: derf Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings Derf: Thanks. I think if it were A-arm bushings, it would not go away when I tighten up the bearing. One "castle" is really quite a lot in thousandths of an inch, I believe. Although I'm no machinist, so numbers like that don't translate very well into "feel" for me. The fine adjustment is done with shims but I don't know where to get them or where to put them. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:05 PM To: Deikis, John G Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings First, try switching the nuts. You may find one works better on the other side. Then, I wouldn't fool around with shims. Just set it a little loose or tight and go with it. I would lean toward the tight side. As long as it turns freely and has no end play, it should be good. Third option is to replace the bearings and see what kind of adjustment you come up with. Have you inspected everything? One notch from binding to too much end play seems too drastic to me. Are you sure the 12-6 rocking play you are feeling is the spindle bearings? More likely the A-arm bushings or lower pin are getting worn. Cheers, Derf _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 1 15:20:18 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:20:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071001161825.036dfbe8@nosimport.com> >-----Original Message----- >From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] > Are you sure the 12-6 rocking play you >are feeling is the spindle bearings? More likely the A-arm bushings >or lower pin are getting worn. >Cheers, >Derf ================== If you have play, try doing the same wiggle with the brakes applied. If the play disappears, it is wheel bearings, if it's still there, it's s'pension. Peter C. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 1 15:22:12 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:22:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000401c80471$21eb1850$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> If you check the K&S metals rack at the local hardware or hobby shop, you'll usually find a small plastic pack of "shim"material". Various thicknesses of brass about 4"x6". Easy to use scissors to cut out shim washers of whatever thickness you want to try. Glen Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings > Derf: > Thanks. I think if it were A-arm bushings, it would not go away when I > tighten up the bearing. One "castle" is really quite a lot in > thousandths of an inch, I believe. Although I'm no machinist, so numbers > like that don't translate very well into "feel" for me. > The fine adjustment is done with shims but I don't know where to get > them or where to put them. > JohnD From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Oct 1 15:56:28 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:56:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <68vr7k$1fqh5q@email.mtu.edu> Watch John Twist's video. I think that's what you want to know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJYIXZtnIiw At 12:52 PM 10/1/2007, you wrote: >Anybody knowledgeable when it comes to tapered roller bearing >conversions on a Spridget? > >I've been running a Timkin set-up, as described on these pages, several >years ago. I want to adjust them to bring the end float down to the >"smidgen" tapered bearings seem to like, but one castle notch on the big >nut is too tight (binds the hub), and the next one is too loose (more >than "just the slightest perceptible movement" of the hub on "6 >o'clock-12 o'clock" rocking). > > > >So, I need shims, right? > >1. Where do I get them? > >2. What size and thickness to take up about a "half flat" of the >big nut so I can get the cotter back in? > >3. Do the shims go between the nut and the big washer or where? > > > >Any knowledge would be appreciated. > > > >JohnD >_______________________________________________ >thcollin at mtu.edu > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 16:03:00 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:03:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710011503i29ae87bcof8bd871877bf4c41@mail.gmail.com> OK, if the play goes away then it aint s'pension. You can drill another hole in the spindle at around 90 degrees to the hole that won't line up, probably not the best idea. You could also turn (or grind) a few thou off of the nut. If you must shim I would think the shim would go under the nut but over the washer. Did you try swapping the nuts? Maybe a new nut? You could try just a nice thin washer under the nut, something around 1/16" thick. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 16:04:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:04:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710011503i29ae87bcof8bd871877bf4c41@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710011503i29ae87bcof8bd871877bf4c41@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710011504u2897afa4rb9952134ddd5fcc5@mail.gmail.com> Make that a nice thin washer between the nut and existing washer, not omitting the existing washer. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 16:15:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:15:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$1fqh5q@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$1fqh5q@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710011515n311671a6ue7216a3d583b5b8a@mail.gmail.com> Ok, now I sit corrected. That is a good video. The way that thing is put together you need to tighten the nut and have the shims set your bearing clearance. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 1 16:14:43 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:14:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seattle Trolley Message-ID: <004401c80478$78818580$6401a8c0@Larry> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20841428/ Now go ahead and tell your wife that you took a S.L.U.T. to work. Or that you rode a S.L.U.T. today. Or...? I know youse guys can come up with something good. LAD From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 17:42:31 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:42:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Seattle Trolley In-Reply-To: <004401c80478$78818580$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <004401c80478$78818580$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <441250190710011642q57215d41w13ad42fab5ffc2eb@mail.gmail.com> Better know as "Paul Allen Land." Kind of strange, in Seattle you can ride the SLUT but you can't get a lap dance. On 10/1/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20841428/ > > > Now go ahead and tell your wife that you took a S.L.U.T. to work. > > Or that you rode a S.L.U.T. today. > > Or...? > > I know youse guys can come up with something good. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 1 19:06:40 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:06:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seattle Trolley References: <004401c80478$78818580$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190710011642q57215d41w13ad42fab5ffc2eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006201c80490$7e3fa0c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Ok, Bill, I'm going to resist the urge to ask how you know that little factoid. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Gilroy To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seattle Trolley Better know as "Paul Allen Land." Kind of strange, in Seattle you can ride the SLUT but you can't get a lap dance. On 10/1/07, Larry Daniels wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20841428/ Now go ahead and tell your wife that you took a S.L.U.T. to work. Or that you rode a S.L.U.T. today. Or...? I know youse guys can come up with something good. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 19:13:17 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:13:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings References: <68vr7k$1fqh5q@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910710011515n311671a6ue7216a3d583b5b8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01f801c80491$6ce49d70$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> And just to add poison to the tip of the arrow Fred, ALL MGBs & (off the top of my head) 6 cyl Big Healeys ALL require the use of shims to set end float. Which IS why I stock them a goodly number deep!!! From pelliott at innercite.com Mon Oct 1 22:13:51 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Pat) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:13:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 62' MKII wheel size Message-ID: <000601c804aa$a4b29ea0$6d7ba8c0@edgewireless.com> Will a 13" x 5 1/2" with 3 1/4" wheel back-spacing fit onto my sprite? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 1 15:22:46 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:22:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings References: <5f00d9910710011204h2d92209ocb68fef70f529df2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002101c80471$372ef920$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Thanks. I think if it were A-arm bushings, it would not go away when I > tighten up the bearing. One "castle" is really quite a lot in > thousandths of an inch, I believe. Although I'm no machinist, so numbers > like that don't translate very well into "feel" for me. > The fine adjustment is done with shims but I don't know where to get > them or where to put them. Measure (accurately) the distance from one thread to the next (or calculate it from the threads per inch) and divide by six to equal the movement of one "castle". As Duncan says, Mcmaster.com has shims. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 2 07:00:55 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:00:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Frankfurt Motor Show 2007 - NO LBC Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/2pw5r6 or http://autoshow.en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/autoshow/Frankfurt 2007/photogallerypopup.aspx?cp-documentid=5429542&photo- number=1 RD From franks97 at verizon.net Tue Oct 2 13:31:15 2007 From: franks97 at verizon.net (franks97 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:31:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 3 Message-ID: <380-220071022193115509@M2W026.mail2web.com> Speedwell has the Shims and detailed instructions on how to use them. Dave Franks Original Message: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:22:46 -0500 From: "David Lieb" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tapered roller bearings To: "Spridget List" Message-ID: <002101c80471$372ef920$0e14f30a at NilesAD.von.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > Thanks. I think if it were A-arm bushings, it would not go away when I > tighten up the bearing. One "castle" is really quite a lot in > thousandths of an inch, I believe. Although I'm no machinist, so numbers > like that don't translate very well into "feel" for me. > The fine adjustment is done with shims but I don't know where to get > them or where to put them. Measure (accurately) the distance from one thread to the next (or calculate it from the threads per inch) and divide by six to equal the movement of one "castle". As Duncan says, Mcmaster.com has shims. David Lieb -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE  Free email based on Microsoft. Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 14:09:29 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:09:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Engine rebuild questions .. Message-ID: <3D9F7318-01F6-4858-A251-9E8663118CB9@comcast.net> Hello all, time for more help.. I am planning to rebuild the spare 948 I have sitting on the work bench. I wanted to know what gotchas and goodies I should be aware of such as: Which rod bolts Which bearing manufacturer / supplier What cam might be a bit better (when using a Judson) What head work / rocker arms / head bolts... you get the picture. What I have is: a 948 block bored 20 over a 948 crank.. hmm.. how would i know if it is a 948 crank 4 con rods that have been massaged (haven't checked weight yet but they are polished) 3 pistons (Probably a story there) Cam shaft Misc. bits.. Thanks all, Lester From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Oct 2 14:37:58 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:37:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 Engine rebuild questions .. References: <3D9F7318-01F6-4858-A251-9E8663118CB9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000401c80534$1e7fcf30$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Balancing is nice on a higher performance motor. Using a harmonic balancer from a 1275 works nicely as does the double row timing chain and front cover(nice lip seal on the crank vs. leaky felt) Glen Byrns From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Oct 2 17:05:51 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC content- oil pump Message-ID: <001101c80548$c70050d0$1da1bf46@personal> Pulled engine etc etc. Oil pressure was 60 or so cold then down to 20 running warm and 10 idle. Have a new pump, no prob. now that I have one that was cut down. Question concerns old pump. Has a lot of wear that I can see on the outside of the outer pump part where it rubs against the housing, both sides and circumference. For my education, what is acceptaple for tolarances? I expect between the circular part of the pump and the case is over .010 can get that one in but would need a wire guage to really tell. Yep going with the new one of course but refuse to take it apart therefor the question. Thanks all From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Oct 2 22:32:35 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:32:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... 948 Engine rebuild questions .. Message-ID: "Tuning BL's A-Series Engine", D. Vizard www.aptfast.com for sought advice and excellent parts - speak to Dave Anton CapBob From dmg at bossig.com Tue Oct 2 22:49:40 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:49:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb needed for '72 midget... Message-ID: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> A friend of mine, Jim Peterson, is trying to fix up a '72 Midget for one of his (many) daughter's. I try to help now and again with odd stuff and light manual labor but I'm stuck on this one.. He is in need of a used carburettor for this motor - I believe it's a 1500cc. The one that is on it has several stripped bolts and threads; and even has a few self tapping screws in it.!. >From what I can see it has been de-smogged but not de-rusted!! So I have two questions for the list.... What would be the correct carb for that year. And would anyone have a spare they don't need. The motor runs... sort of ! TIA - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Oct 3 00:25:23 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... 948 Engine rebuild questions .. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <886977.24621.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think Dave is the UK buying. At least he was a week ago. Vigil; "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: "Tuning BL's A-Series Engine", D. Vizard www.aptfast.com for sought advice and excellent parts - speak to Dave Anton CapBob _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 07:33:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:33:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb needed for '72 midget... In-Reply-To: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710030633q7d5db33s77cfad1a6abc2fec@mail.gmail.com> 1500s had ZS or Zenith Stromburg carbs. I think a good old HIF6 will bolt on and work better. A Weber DGV carb and intake might also work better. Since many people upgrade to the Weber, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding a good used ZS. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 07:35:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:35:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... 948 Engine rebuild questions .. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710030635l22c4dd98w40c88774c8dcc868@mail.gmail.com> > www.aptfast.com for sought advice and > excellent parts - speak to Dave Anton Anton knows his stuff, and your's too, if it is A-series related. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Oct 3 07:35:08 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:35:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb needed for '72 midget... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710030633q7d5db33s77cfad1a6abc2fec@mail.gmail.com> References: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> <5f00d9910710030633q7d5db33s77cfad1a6abc2fec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071003083508.axtj5gy8jwo844ks@webmail.opentransfer.com> Well there's an oxymoron if I ever heard one!! good and zs used in the same sentence. Besides, unless the dpo swapped out the 1275 for a 1500, the 72 should have a 1275 (or is that a 1098) with dual SU's. If the current engine has a single carb, it is either a) the wrong carb set up, or b) the wrong engine for that year. Larry Quoting derf : > you shouldn't have too much > trouble finding a good used ZS. > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 10:02:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:02:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb needed for '72 midget... In-Reply-To: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> References: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710030902v4548537ckee012400f9aa21bb@mail.gmail.com> OK, ask him if the carb(s) are on the left (driver's in US) side of the car or the or the right side of the car. That will ID the motor as Spitfidget (1500) or A-series. Does it have an intake manifold? Either way, a Weber DGV would be a good way to go, especially if the driver is a girly type who doesn't like to tinker or break down. A Crane or Pertronix ignition setup would be advisable, too. Cheers, Derf From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Oct 3 10:03:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:03:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Madison car moving Fri-Sun Message-ID: <00e301c805d6$ee670bd0$cb352370$@com> Hey y'all, I recently bought 5 cars in the Madison, WI area. Managed to get one home so far, along with a trailer and a pile-o-parts. I have to pick up the remaining 4 cars and 2nd pile-o-parts by Sunday. They're in a little town called Dane, outside of Madison. They're ensconced in a chicken coop. My brother will be there with a truck and trailer. I have 2 trucks and trailers. need a driver for the 2nd truck. I also have a 3rd trailer if anyone has a truck to pull it with. I'm looking for a driver of one of my vehicles, as well as anyone else that has a vehicle capable of towing the 3rd trailer. I can do this Fri, Sat, or Sunday. It would be great if we could do this "en masse" and get it all done at once. Volunteers? (Please). WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Wed Oct 3 10:37:01 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:37:01 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] Test, please delete Message-ID: Test From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 3 10:43:00 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 11:43:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: 948 Engine rebuild questions .. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I do own the book but that's not the same as having someone more or less my skill level, Frank Excepted, doing a rebuild on their own engine.. and sourcing parts etc. Where putting in a hand made shim is a bad thing etc. Lester Keep those emails coming! On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:28 PM, sprideteer wrote: > Everything you could possibly want to know is right here - > > http://tinyurl.com/2d6t2d > > > > > Hello all, time for more help.. > > > > I am planning to rebuild the spare 948 I have sitting on the work > > bench. I wanted to know what gotchas and goodies I should be > aware > > of such as: > > > > Which rod bolts > > > > Which bearing manufacturer / supplier > > > > What cam might be a bit better (when using a Judson) > > > > What head work / rocker arms / head bolts... you get the picture. > > > > What I have is: > > > > a 948 block bored 20 over > > > > a 948 crank.. hmm.. how would i know if it is a 948 crank > > > > 4 con rods that have been massaged (haven't checked weight yet > but > > they are polished) > > > > 3 pistons (Probably a story there) > > > > Cam shaft > > > > Misc. bits.. > > > > Thanks all, > > > > Lester From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 11:10:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:10:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test, please delete In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710031010o712ac926pe25fdbc56891c20c@mail.gmail.com> tseT From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Oct 3 11:23:35 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 oil pump Message-ID: <000f01c805e2$2143d320$1da1bf46@personal> I have two, one unmodified and one where the edges of the case where the bolts go through are cut down. Both are same brand both are new. There is no way that pump will fit under the backing plate I have. The pump is just too large for the cut out where the tin can is soddered on. What the heck, am I stupid or something in my old age. This is not rocket science. Anyone else put a new 948 pump in lately and where did you get it. OR OR OR do I have a backing plate from something else????? the tranny bolts up to it ok. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 11:30:43 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:30:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test, please delete In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pop Quiz..... On 10/3/07, Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken) wrote: > Test > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Oct 3 12:13:52 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:13:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 oil pump Message-ID: <000801c805e9$279c9070$1da1bf46@personal> Got that sucker now, had to take another 1/16 inch or so off of each or the oil pump ears. I would guess that the factory that made the backing plates did not get the can exactly centered. So much for quality control, however it did fit with the orginal oil pump so guess I best shut up. I have two, one unmodified and one where the edges of the case where the bolts go through are cut down. Both are same brand both are new. There is no way that pump will fit under the backing plate I have. The pump is just too large for the cut out where the tin can is soddered on. What the heck, am I stupid or something in my old age. This is not rocket science. Anyone else put a new 948 pump in lately and where did you get it. OR OR OR do I have a backing plate from something else????? the tranny bolts up to it ok. From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 3 12:28:14 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:28:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb needed for '72 midget... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710030902v4548537ckee012400f9aa21bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4702BCF4.3646.3399FDD@dmg.bossig.com>, <5f00d9910710030902v4548537ckee012400f9aa21bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47037CCE.12614.F5CC7F@dmg.bossig.com> Hi Folks... I went over to Jim's house this morning... he's buggered his hand up doing a "Honey do"! Anyway, I thought he had a new car to play with!!! Butn it's the same '72 Midget with a 1275 (12V) engine that's been sitting in his driveway for at least the last three years. It has a pair of SU's on it with the original filter cans. I last tuned the SU's for him about 8 years ago!! The damage is not as bad as he told me... most of it can be fixed with what he has in his garage... I suspect the gaskets have dried out and the needle tubes aren't flexible any more.... He's going to put it in his garage 'cause I ain't going to work on it outside in the rain and cold!! We'll see if we can get it to turn over on the starter and get some oil pressure before I go any further.. Brake reservoir is empty but the clutch one is OK. I wonder if the pressure plate has frozen to the flywheel.... we'll soon find out! Thanks for everyones input.... it's always appreciated - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 3 14:48:42 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:48:42 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Test, please delete Message-ID: <25982883.1191444522928.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ok! now that i'm home from racing at VIR , i'll delete! LOL! chuck. hey! what ever happened to frank's standard response to test...."tickle"? ;) -----Original Message----- >From: Brad Fornal >Sent: Oct 3, 2007 1:30 PM >To: eric.frenken at brits-n-pieces.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Test, please delete > >Pop Quiz..... > >On 10/3/07, Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken) wrote: >> Test From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 3 14:56:11 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:56:11 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: 948 Engine rebuild questions .. Message-ID: <31966255.1191444971999.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> lester, i can do a head for you if you'd like. ask frank if he likes the head i did for his bugeye. i only did the porting. i can get a set of fresh valves and put them in too! getting an A series BMC motor to breathe is #1 in importance! are you using stock bugeye carbs or have you upgraded the motor to the later carbs? i got rid of my weber side draft in favor of seriously modified SU's. again ask frank! he drove the car and told me do not be suprised if it disappeared and was painted yellow(his car's color at the time). chuck. 2 bugeyes and 8 saabs! -----Original Message----- >From: oldsaabguy >Sent: Oct 3, 2007 12:43 PM >To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: 948 Engine rebuild questions .. > >I do own the book but that's not the same as having someone more or >less my skill level, Frank Excepted, doing a rebuild on their own >engine.. and sourcing parts etc. Where putting in a hand made shim >is a bad thing etc. > >Lester > >Keep those emails coming! > > >On Oct 2, 2007, at 6:28 PM, sprideteer wrote: > >> Everything you could possibly want to know is right here - >> >> http://tinyurl.com/2d6t2d >> >> > >> > Hello all, time for more help.. >> > >> > I am planning to rebuild the spare 948 I have sitting on the work >> > bench. I wanted to know what gotchas and goodies I should be >> aware >> > of such as: >> > >> > Which rod bolts >> > >> > Which bearing manufacturer / supplier >> > >> > What cam might be a bit better (when using a Judson) >> > >> > What head work / rocker arms / head bolts... you get the picture. >> > >> > What I have is: >> > >> > a 948 block bored 20 over >> > >> > a 948 crank.. hmm.. how would i know if it is a 948 crank >> > >> > 4 con rods that have been massaged (haven't checked weight yet >> but >> > they are polished) >> > >> > 3 pistons (Probably a story there) >> > >> > Cam shaft >> > >> > Misc. bits.. >> > >> > Thanks all, From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 15:26:48 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:26:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 oil pump In-Reply-To: <000801c805e9$279c9070$1da1bf46@personal> References: <000801c805e9$279c9070$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710031426q6a9092c9r8fd692ed90937cab@mail.gmail.com> Jack, My 1275 had a 948 back plate on it when I got the car. It was too thin causing the tranny input shaft to hog out the bushing in the fly wheel and demolish my clutch. I replaced it last year with a 1275 (thicker) alloy back plate from APT. Now I appear to have an oil leak around the oil pump cover when the oil pressure gets high. I'm going to have to sort that out soon. Oh well...it will only be the third time in two years that I have pulled the entire lump! I'm getting kinda good at this now.... ;-) FWIW, I still have the old back plate with the can brazed onto it.... lemme know if you want it. Cheers!! Jim On 10/3/07, Jack Laird wrote: > Got that sucker now, had to take another 1/16 inch or so off of each or the > oil pump ears. I would guess that the factory that made the backing plates did > not get the can exactly centered. > > So much for quality control, however it did fit with the orginal oil pump so > guess I best shut up. > > > > I have two, one unmodified and one where the edges of the case where the > bolts > go through are cut down. Both are same brand both are new. > > There is no way that pump will fit under the backing plate I have. The pump > is > just too large for the cut out where the tin can is soddered on. > > What the heck, am I stupid or something in my old age. This is not rocket > science. > > Anyone else put a new 948 pump in lately and where did you get it. OR OR OR > do > I have a backing plate from something else????? the tranny bolts up to it ok. > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Oct 3 18:12:45 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:12:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Seam sealer Message-ID: <68vr7k$1ghken@email.mtu.edu> I want to put seam sealer on my Sprite soon, but am wondering when it should go on. I have sandblasted the body and then gave it a coat of etching primer. The plan is to send it off to a body shop for base / clear top coats. I assume the body shop will spray a primer first. Should I put seam sealer on before the body shop primer coat or wait until the shop has put on their primer coat? Thanks Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From millerls at ado13.com Wed Oct 3 18:18:22 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:18:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] San Diego Message-ID: <02f301c8061c$1325bb70$d280bc43@HP> We are off to the Coronado for the speed week races. Car is a red Byers (think Devin) Volvo and is car #11 in group 3. If anyone is there, stop in and say hi. Larry From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Oct 3 18:45:29 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] San Diego In-Reply-To: <02f301c8061c$1325bb70$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <909119.18479.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > We are off to the Coronado for the speed week races. > Car is a red Byers > (think Devin) Volvo and is car #11 in group 3. If > anyone is there, stop in > and say hi. The car got a brief mention on Speedvision's coverage of the 2007 Monterey Historics!!!! Atta boy Larry and Olie. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Oct 3 18:57:37 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:57:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:44:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Besides, unless the dpo swapped out the 1275 for a 1500, the 72 should have a 1275 (or is that a 1098) with dual SU's. If the current engine has a single carb, it is either a) the wrong carb set up, or b) the wrong engine for that year. Larry If it's a 1275 I've also got a set of SU's, unknown condition....$25 and shipping? RBH ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Oct 3 18:59:04 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:59:04 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:44:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Volunteers? (Please). WST I'm in, but I'll need a plane ticket... RH ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From millerls at ado13.com Wed Oct 3 18:53:02 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:53:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] San Diego References: <909119.18479.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <031901c80623$04d8d3c0$d280bc43@HP> Thanks Ron. Unfortunately Oli and I did not see the Speedvision snipit. I'm sure they will run it again. A friend thought he taped it but the tape was blank :-) He needs grandkids to set the recorder for him. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" ; "Spridget" ; "Bugeye" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] San Diego > > --- Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > >> We are off to the Coronado for the speed week races. >> Car is a red Byers >> (think Devin) Volvo and is car #11 in group 3. If >> anyone is there, stop in >> and say hi. > > The car got a brief mention on Speedvision's coverage > of the 2007 Monterey Historics!!!! Atta boy Larry and > Olie. > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Oct 3 18:55:31 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:55:31 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:44:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Since many people upgrade to the Weber, you shouldn't have too much trouble finding a good used ZS. Cheers, Derf Is this the same carb used on late model MGB's? I so I have one he can have for the price of shipping...condition unknown, off a 77. RBH ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Wed Oct 3 20:20:41 2007 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:20:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Message-ID: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> I would suggest the manufacturers guidelines of tightening and then backing off to .001" to .007" end play. http://www.timken.com/industries/automotive/autoaftermarket/techtips/Auto TechTips_Vol%202_Issue%201.pdf Mike Myers From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 3 20:42:58 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:42:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Message-ID: <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> >I would suggest the manufacturers guidelines of tightening and then > backing off to .001" to .007" end play. That depends on whether you intend to treat them as normal roller bearings or follow the late MGB concept of retaining the pot-metal spacer, like John Twist does, in the hope that it makes it stronger. I imagine that bearing engineers just look at you funny if you suggest doing this. My roller bearings have been working just fine for the last three or four years with no spacer through long road trips, autocrosses and many other exercises and about 30,000 miles. I suppose I ought to open them up this winter and inspect them. David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Oct 3 21:15:49 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <22848.8839.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > I imagine that bearing engineers just look at you > funny if you suggest Mike is a bearing engineer. We were playing with this issue at work one lunch hour. Without being 100% certain of materials and assuming my race car bearings got to 350F, .007" was more like what we calculated as being needed (we actually came up with .010). I actually was doing wheel bearings last night, and I couldn't get a dial indicator set up well enough to even come close to getting the measurement accurately after shimming, so I had to go by feel. I suppose we'll see how these do on the track. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Wed Oct 3 21:32:56 2007 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:32:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Message-ID: <20071003.233256.3468.2.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Bearing life actually goes up with a little bit of preload, but too much and things go South in a hurry. The range suggested is intended to provide a decent preload when things heat up during operation. Mike On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Ron Soave writes: > --- David Lieb wrote: > > I imagine that bearing engineers just look at you > > funny if you suggest > > Mike is a bearing engineer. > > We were playing with this issue at work one lunch > hour. Without being 100% certain of materials and > assuming my race car bearings got to 350F, .007" was > more like what we calculated as being needed (we > actually came up with .010). I actually was doing > wheel bearings last night, and I couldn't get a dial > indicator set up well enough to even come close to > getting the measurement accurately after shimming, so > I had to go by feel. I suppose we'll see how these do > on the track. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 21:51:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 21:51:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710032051u53d67f38n13fdf686b21e67e9@mail.gmail.com> I think the setup that Twist describes is meant to strengthen the spindle. He suggests 1 to 3 thou of endplay. The typical American car uses the "tighten and then loosen a little" method but takes advantage of a heavier spindle and fixed inner stop. In a situation like the one shown by Twist in the video, I would go for the spacers because they help establish a stable platform for the inner most race. What I mean is without the 60 ft lb of torque he describes, the bearing race is able to move, not just the hub and bearings. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Oct 3 22:47:34 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:47:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <76FC052A-6093-4D7C-AC68-EE04BC14A2B5@phillymgclub.com> Nope, they may be the same (bad) design, but are different sizes. Larry On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:55 PM, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/3/2007 10:44:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Since many people upgrade to the Weber, you shouldn't have too much > trouble finding a good used ZS. > Cheers, > Derf > > > > Is this the same carb used on late model MGB's? I so I have one he > can have > for the price of shipping...condition unknown, off a 77. > > RBH > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From bdischer at blakedischer.com Thu Oct 4 06:01:54 2007 From: bdischer at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] HUGE Donation for ABRR Kid's Charity Run Message-ID: <020301c8067e$5cf70e40$02fea8c0@bjdtr3a> Wow... I'm verklempt! In this morning's email was a note from a lister wishing to remain anonymous who will be making a $4,000 donation to the Wisconsin charity, The Center for Blind and Visually Impaired kids (http://www.cbvic.org/). The run's website: http://www.abrr.org. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Blake Discher, Event Organizer America's British Reliability Run Ph: 313-259-4460 ----- Part of my "Ain't to Proud to Beg" initial email... Come Saturday, 25 British cars will begin the fifth annual "America's British Reliability Run." This year there will be two groups participating in two different locations. One in the Wisconsin run, driving 800 miles in two days through Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan's Upper Peninsula. Another group will drive the Ohio run, again driving 800 miles in two days through Ohio, Virginia and Maryland. In four years the run has raised more than $110,000 for children's charities! The charity for the Wisconsin run is the Center for Blind & Visually Impaired Children. The Center offers a coordinated program of educational intervention and prescribed therapies to infants and toddlers who are blind or visually impaired, including those with additional disabilities. Website: http://www.cbvic.org/. At the end of this run we'll all park our cars at the Center for an "It's OK to Touch" car show for the visually impaired kids! The charity for the Ohio run is Adventures for Wishkids, whose mission is to enrich the lives of children with life threatening illnesses and their families by providing year round, fun-filled group activities and destination events, fostering joy, laughter, normalcy and supportive networking opportunities. Web: http://www.afwkids.org/. One hundred percent of your donation goes to the charity, teams pay their own expenses out of pocket. In fact, your donation is made directly to the charity of your choice. Please help as you can - every little bit counts, and we welcome contributions large and small! You can donate by visiting the secure server site provided by our corporate sponsor, the Little British Car Company. Just follow this link: https://securemg.ipl.co.uk/lbcarco/mibrr.html to donate safely and securely online. Event web site: http://www.abrr.org. Your contribution is tax deductible. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 10:22:04 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:22:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> Message-ID: <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) Lester .. too far for a weekend trip but damn it sounds like fun! On Sep 29, 2007, at 7:17 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > Hey y'all, > > > > Yes. this message is for the uninitiated. Of course, the initiated > have > already "run the gauntlet", and know what's in store for them. > > > > Generally, we get started around 10AM. We'll work 'til around 4PM. > Since > we'll have at least 3 or 4 simultaneous projects, you can jump in on > whatever interests you. If you're coming to learn, don't be shy. If > you're > coming just to hang out, that is absolutely OK too. You need not be an > expert at anything to attend. just enjoy people or cars, or both. > > > > If you intend to get dirty, please make sure to bring a change of > clothes, > as we're go out for dinner Friday night. We'll be serving lunch > both Fri. & > Sat. If you'd like to bring something to serve, please let me know in > advance. For those of you that can't attend, we do accept food > contributions, if you can safely ship them in a manner that won't > kill us. > In the past, folks have sent clams, scrapple, calamari, brats, etc. > > > > The Thicko International World Headquarters are located at the > Dream Farm. a > 10 acre farm between Fond du Lac & Oshkosh Wisconsin. We're smack > dab in > the middle of dairy farm country. The Thicko shop (yes, it is also > known as > the "homo club" ) is well lit, and well heated, should the weather > be crap, > as it often is that time of year, we'll be comfortable. We have > plenty of > parking. > > > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a > name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 10:30:50 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:30:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007401c806a3$ed4b2560$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Just a tad north of the bayou, Lester!!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 4 10:41:23 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:41:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] In cyclinder video Message-ID: <380-220071044164123203@earthlink.net> An incredible slow motion video of the inside of a running engine cylinder. I don't know any of the details, but not something you see very often. http://tinyurl.com/33okuh Buster From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 11:17:49 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:17:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <007401c806a3$ed4b2560$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> <007401c806a3$ed4b2560$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: It's just north of the state named after what Ed does to many list members, ill, and annoy. LOL On 10/4/07, 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: > <> > > Just a tad north of the bayou, Lester!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 11:24:27 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] In cylinder video In-Reply-To: <380-220071044164123203@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <444819.74480.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Interesting, but it skips the exhaust stroke. I was hoping to see the piston push the burnt gases out the exhaust valve... I also wonder what they used for lighting. Robert Bruce Evans wrote: An incredible slow motion video of the inside of a running engine cylinder. I don't know any of the details, but not something you see very often. http://tinyurl.com/33okuh Buster _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Oct 4 11:25:04 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:25:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift Message-ID: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> Here is a novel approach to getting your car off the ground. Clever idea, wonder how safe it really is? http://www.classic1800.com/ramp-pit-plans/ Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Oct 4 11:28:50 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <173e0a3e8c8a3a1b0a4be10a.20071004102850.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Anybody had to replace the slave cylinder on Paul's 5 speed conversion with the engine and trans in the car? I have a leak in this area of my Bugeye of fresh brake fluid. It may or may not be the slave cylinder. Might just be the line going in or the bleed extension I installed to aid bleeding. If it is the slave cylinder it looks like the upper 9/16ths bolt holding the slave is very close to the frame rail. Anyone done this? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From nases at verizon.net Thu Oct 4 11:37:47 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:37:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <173e0a3e8c8a3a1b0a4be10a.20071004102850.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <173e0a3e8c8a3a1b0a4be10a.20071004102850.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <002e01c806ad$47fc11f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Hi Mike, I did it on my Bugeye but you're right it's real close so you can't get much of a turn on the wrench. When your hands go numb from holding them over your head, take a break;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa Anybody had to replace the slave cylinder on Paul's 5 speed conversion with the engine and trans in the car? I have a leak in this area of my Bugeye of fresh brake fluid. It may or may not be the slave cylinder. Might just be the line going in or the bleed extension I installed to aid bleeding. If it is the slave cylinder it looks like the upper 9/16ths bolt holding the slave is very close to the frame rail. Anyone done this? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 11:49:15 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:49:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] In cyclinder video In-Reply-To: <380-220071044164123203@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071044164123203@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041049k68ed853ds8ecd6b32408c1176@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to see the same shot with a Rimflow valve to see how the rim affects the intake charge. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 4 12:08:06 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:08:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Mark, you can buy steel ramps that are cheaper than all of that wood, you don't have to build them, you get better access to the underside of the car, they are easier to store and, I would guess, infinitely safer. Run the front up the ramps, jack up the back with your floor jack (being careful that the car doesn't roll backwards, BTDT) and put stands under the axle. Or am I missing something here? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift Here is a novel approach to getting your car off the ground. Clever idea, wonder how safe it really is? http://www.classic1800.com/ramp-pit-plans/ Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 10/3/2007 8:22 PM From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Oct 4 12:11:33 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <002e01c806ad$47fc11f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> References: <173e0a3e8c8a3a1b0a4be10a.20071004102850.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <002e01c806ad$47fc11f0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <606ca1037daf10ea13acaa.20071004111133.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Not too worried about going numb. Just wanted to know how much trouble to get the upper bolt out. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Phil Nase > Hi Mike, > I did it on my Bugeye but you're right it's real close so you can't get > much > of a turn on the wrench. When your hands go numb from holding them over > your head, take a break;) > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > > > Anybody had to replace the slave cylinder on Paul's 5 speed conversion > with > the engine and trans in the car? I have a leak in this area of my Bugeye > of > fresh brake fluid. It may or may not be the slave cylinder. > Might just be the line going in or the bleed extension I installed to aid > bleeding. If it is the slave cylinder it looks like the upper 9/16ths > bolt > holding the slave is very close to the frame rail. Anyone done this? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:40:03 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:40:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift In-Reply-To: <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: FWIW, I have done that for YEARS, yet, last time I was putting an engine in, the ramps shifted sideways, when I was raising and pushing the tranny to get it into the tunnel area. I was in the driveway, with the radio blaring in the garage, the car sitting just about an inch above my chest, and no way to move. I could see the one ramp out beside the car, and the other tire was still on the ramp, just barely, and the ramp was tilted. Between songs, I hollered as loud as I could, for my wife. She came out, anxious to help, and KICKS the ramp with the tire balanced on it. This brought forth a slew of profanity, as I just KNEW I was gonna get the full weight of the car on my chest at any second. I just wanna say, if you ARE going to use ramps, get the best, widest ramps you can find. Brad On 10/4/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > Mark, you can buy steel ramps that are cheaper than all of that wood, you > don't have to build them, you get better access to the underside of the car, > they are easier to store and, I would guess, infinitely safer. > > Run the front up the ramps, jack up the back with your floor jack (being > careful that the car doesn't roll backwards, BTDT) and put stands under the > axle. > > Or am I missing something here? > > > LAD > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark" > To: "spridgets list" > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:25 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift > > > Here is a novel approach to getting your car off the ground. Clever idea, > wonder how safe it really is? > > http://www.classic1800.com/ramp-pit-plans/ > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > _______________________________________________ > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 10/3/2007 > 8:22 PM > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:43:43 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:43:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift In-Reply-To: References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710041143s654147fal4747398cdde43c72@mail.gmail.com> you all may have seen this but a kid on vw vortex just died when his jack failed. Dont cheat this stuff. On 10/4/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > > FWIW, I have done that for YEARS, yet, last time I was putting an > engine in, the ramps shifted sideways, when I was raising and pushing > the tranny to get it into the tunnel area. I was in the driveway, with > the radio blaring in the garage, the car sitting just about an inch > above my chest, and no way to move. I could see the one ramp out > beside the car, and the other tire was still on the ramp, just barely, > and the ramp was tilted. Between songs, I hollered as loud as I could, > for my wife. She came out, anxious to help, and KICKS the ramp with > the tire balanced on it. This brought forth a slew of profanity, as I > just KNEW I was gonna get the full weight of the car on my chest at > any second. > I just wanna say, if you ARE going to use ramps, get the best, widest > ramps you can find. > > Brad > > On 10/4/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Mark, you can buy steel ramps that are cheaper than all of that wood, > you > > don't have to build them, you get better access to the underside of the > car, > > they are easier to store and, I would guess, infinitely safer. > > > > Run the front up the ramps, jack up the back with your floor jack (being > > careful that the car doesn't roll backwards, BTDT) and put stands under > the > > axle. > > > > Or am I missing something here? > > > > > > LAD > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark" > > To: "spridgets list" > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:25 PM > > Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift > > > > > > Here is a novel approach to getting your car off the ground. Clever > idea, > > wonder how safe it really is? > > > > http://www.classic1800.com/ramp-pit-plans/ > > > > Mark > > Nashville > > http://www.ArrestMeRed.com > > _______________________________________________ > > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: > 10/3/2007 > > 8:22 PM > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > Edit your replies > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > -- > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 12:44:59 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710041144r3a8d8affm19a0630bab36402a@mail.gmail.com> On 10/4/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) Simple directions. Go north until you smell it, then go east or west until you step in it. ;-) Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in the Land of Oz From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 4 13:02:50 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:02:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071004135621.0379fe18@nosimport.com> Straight up the big River, hang a right at Prairie Du Chien and up that river to the first dam, get out of the boat, go east on Hwy 60 to 151 N to 41 N exit at 175 and wave your arms.... someone will pick you up. At 11:22 AM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) > >Lester > > >.. too far for a weekend trip but damn it sounds like fun! From dwramsey at att.net Thu Oct 4 13:10:26 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:10:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Message-ID: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> I'm sorry but even Mr Twist can't convince me that placing the spindle in a state of tension will give it strength against lateral loads at the base. I've run the timken tapered bearing for longer than I can remember without the spacer. Crash -------------- Original message from derf : -------------- > I think the setup that Twist describes is meant to strengthen the > spindle. He suggests 1 to 3 thou of endplay. > The typical American car uses the "tighten and then loosen a little" > method but takes advantage of a heavier spindle and fixed inner stop. > In a situation like the one shown by Twist in the video, I would go > for the spacers because they help establish a stable platform for the > inner most race. What I mean is without the 60 ft lb of torque he > describes, the bearing race is able to move, not just the hub and > bearings. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 13:36:34 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:36:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041236j882b73bu27573ee3e31904a0@mail.gmail.com> >From the video and the way that MGB hub is made, I would do the setup as Mr. Twist describes. Otherwise, if that innermost spacer ring is allowed to float, it could wear the spindle and cause it to fail. It is OK for bearings to have some end float to allow for expansion under driving conditions, but you don't want things like spacers and races to be moving around. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 13:49:54 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:49:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I'm sorry but even Mr Twist can't convince me that placing the spindle in > a state of tension will give it strength against lateral loads at the > base. I've run the timken tapered bearing for longer than I can remember > without the spacer. I have a lot of respect for Mr Twist, but I agree with Crash here. Putting the spacer in there means that the bearings as a unit with the spacer becomes one single alignment and just a little of imprecision on the part of the obviously less than machined spacer is capable of adversely affecting the life expectancy of the assembly. With ball bearings, it would appear to be less critical, since each bearing is completely assembled at all times. Bear in mind that Twist is also the one who maintains that a volt/ohm meter has no purpose when working on an LBC. I don't agree with that, either. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:13:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:13:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041313u3750d985jae3403db6b07fb7b@mail.gmail.com> That spacer and shims are needed to keep the inner spacer stationary. If the Spridgets aren't like the MGBs and don't have that inner ring, then maybe set em up loose. But, that ring being allowed to float and/or spin can't be good. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 14:26:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:26:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910710041313u3750d985jae3403db6b07fb7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003b01c806c4$e5cad0d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > That spacer and shims are needed to keep the inner spacer stationary. > If the Spridgets aren't like the MGBs and don't have that inner ring, > then maybe set em up loose. But, that ring being allowed to float > and/or spin can't be good. Not quite sure what you mean by "inner ring". My midget is set up the same way as my 1972 Chevelle was. Works great. Spindle on the Spridget is just as thick as that of cars significantly larger that were not designed to have a spacer in there. The roller bearings are capable of greater loads than I will ever expose them to. If you like to waste your time trying to make roller bearings work in a way they were not intended to, be my guest. David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 4 14:33:59 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <003b01c806c4$e5cad0d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910710041313u3750d985jae3403db6b07fb7b@mail.gmail.com> <003b01c806c4$e5cad0d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071004153043.031502e8@nosimport.com> At 03:26 PM 10/4/2007, David Lieb wrote: > > That spacer and shims are needed to keep the inner spacer stationary. > > If the Spridgets aren't like the MGBs and don't have that inner ring, > > then maybe set em up loose. But, that ring being allowed to float > > and/or spin can't be good. > >Not quite sure what you mean by "inner ring". My midget is set up the same >way as my 1972 Chevelle was. Works great. Spindle on the Spridget is just as >thick as that of cars significantly larger that were not designed to have a >spacer in there. The roller bearings are capable of greater loads than I >will ever expose them to. If you like to waste your time trying to make >roller bearings work in a way they were not intended to, be my guest. >David Lieb -- The "inner ring" that the Twister speaks of is on Bs, not Spridgets. He says it is to maintain a radius at the spindle for strength. (The radiused joint is under the ring) The ring is also, or only, for the oil seal lip to ride on. If it becomes grooved, you change it. Peter C From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 14:59:43 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS special project Message-ID: <007601c806c9$7f825460$7e86fd20$@com> As mentioned earlier, I recently bought 5 Spridgets from the Madison area. The woman I bought them from, Mary, was widowed about 7 years ago. It was her husband that was the Sprite racer. but she shared his love for the cars. In fact, besides the 5 cars I bought, she's kept 2. One car, a Bugeye racecar. her 12 year old son wanted to keep since it had belonged to his Dad. The other, she kept for herself. It's a MKI Midget that they had their first date in. The Midget looks to be in very decent, restorable, perhaps even drivable shape. As a special project for SOS '07, I've offered to pick up her car in Madison (or maybe PPP can arrange to get it here?), and we'll see if it turns over. If so, we'll change the oil, flush the fuel, and see if we can get it started. We'll also see if we can insure the clutch and brakes are operational. Hopefully, she can end up with an operational car, or, at least, properly prepare it for long term storage. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 15:40:29 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:40:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <100420071910.8109.47053AA200016F8000001FAD2160383116970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <5f00d9910710041313u3750d985jae3403db6b07fb7b@mail.gmail.com> <003b01c806c4$e5cad0d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20071004153043.031502e8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <004101c806cf$2f32bb70$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The "inner ring" that the Twister speaks of is on Bs, not Spridgets. He > says it is to maintain a radius at the spindle for strength. (The radiused > joint is under the ring) The ring is also, or only, for the oil seal lip > to ride on. If it becomes grooved, you change it. Oh yeah, now I remember it. It's been a long time since I did my B's bearings. David From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Oct 4 15:44:58 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:44:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Message-ID: Mike: This is what I've been doing for several years, but I'm not sure it is the best practice for a spindle designed to run ball bearings. Since this a sort of race car, that .007 "wobble" felt pretty loose to me! John Twist and Tom Colby (Speedwell Engineering) are both recommending shims down to zero movement with 45# of torque on the spindle nut. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: Michael D Myers [mailto:mdmyers_ct at juno.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:21 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings I would suggest the manufacturers guidelines of tightening and then backing off to .001" to .007" end play. http://www.timken.com/industries/automotive/autoaftermarket/techtips/Aut o TechTips_Vol%202_Issue%201.pdf Mike Myers From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Oct 4 15:49:47 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:49:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: A few years ago, after "the spacer" got a lot of air time on this list, I decided to run the spacer again. Don't even remember why, and don't want to even re-visit the question. I have been running the spacer AND adjusting the "traditional roller bearing" way. Other than feeling loose, the bearings looked perfect when I took them out last week. I wonder what the failure mode is when the spacer is at fault? Broken spindle? Bearing coming apart laterally? I can't even SPELL engineer. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:43 PM To: Michael D Myers; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings >I would suggest the manufacturers guidelines of tightening and then > backing off to .001" to .007" end play. That depends on whether you intend to treat them as normal roller bearings or follow the late MGB concept of retaining the pot-metal spacer, like John Twist does, in the hope that it makes it stronger. I imagine that bearing engineers just look at you funny if you suggest doing this. My roller bearings have been working just fine for the last three or four years with no spacer through long road trips, autocrosses and many other exercises and about 30,000 miles. I suppose I ought to open them up this winter and inspect them. David Lieb From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Oct 4 16:15:42 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:15:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Message-ID: <000a01c806d4$1aa8e990$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> As I understand it, the spacer and inner bearing shells, when tightened against the stub axle, will increase the effective diameter of the axle, thus making it less likely to bend and/or break. Instead of the axle being ~1" in diameter, it would now be the diameter of the total torqued package (axle/spacer/inner race, ~1.5") Picture the spacer and inner races (once torqued tightly against the face of the stub axle assembly) as a steel tube axle with another solid axle inside. I never understood the whole idea until I watched the Twist video and heard his explanation. Suddenly it made sense. However, isn't it a cure looking for a problem? How often do Spridget axles break off? If there is a big problem with stub axles breaking off at the root, this would be an effective way to lengthen their life or prevent breakage. If breakage is very rare, use the spacer to discipline the neighbor's cat and don't sweat the torque. Don't call me on the measurements, I'm not looking at an axle at the moment, just guessing. Glen From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 16:18:53 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:18:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071004135621.0379fe18@nosimport.com> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20071004135621.0379fe18@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <1D8759C0-3C4E-4C72-8912-2E95B736FAA5@comcast.net> Are you certain? just to be sure I'll be wearing a red carnation.. Lester ROFLMAO! On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Peter C wrote: > Straight up the big River, hang a right at Prairie Du Chien and up > that river to the first dam, get out of the boat, go east on Hwy 60 > to 151 N to 41 N exit at 175 and wave your arms.... someone will > pick you up. > > > At 11:22 AM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: > >> mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) >> >> Lester >> >> >> .. too far for a weekend trip but damn it sounds like fun! From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 4 16:22:41 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <1D8759C0-3C4E-4C72-8912-2E95B736FAA5@comcast.net> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20071004135621.0379fe18@nosimport.com> <1D8759C0-3C4E-4C72-8912-2E95B736FAA5@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071004172155.031a7828@nosimport.com> Wear some antlers, then someone will get you for sure....... Peter At 05:18 PM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >Are you certain? > >just to be sure I'll be wearing a red carnation.. > >Lester > >ROFLMAO! > > >On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Peter C wrote: > >>Straight up the big River, hang a right at Prairie Du Chien and up >>that river to the first dam, get out of the boat, go east on Hwy 60 >>to 151 N to 41 N exit at 175 and wave your arms.... someone will >>pick you up. >> >> >>At 11:22 AM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >> >>>mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) >>> >>>Lester >>> >>> >>>.. too far for a weekend trip but damn it sounds like fun! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 16:24:11 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:24:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 for the uninitiated In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071004172155.031a7828@nosimport.com> References: <001401c80292$b9834dd0$2c89e970$@com> <148BA0D1-DB1D-4447-8DBD-F8338FE41F61@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20071004135621.0379fe18@nosimport.com> <1D8759C0-3C4E-4C72-8912-2E95B736FAA5@comcast.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20071004172155.031a7828@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <846A539C-90CC-4F15-AA57-B1311013DDE0@comcast.net> .. and my brown suit with black shoes?? Lester On Oct 4, 2007, at 5:22 PM, Peter C wrote: > Wear some antlers, then someone will get you for sure....... > > Peter > > At 05:18 PM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: > >> Are you certain? >> >> just to be sure I'll be wearing a red carnation.. >> >> Lester >> >> ROFLMAO! >> >> >> On Oct 4, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Peter C wrote: >> >>> Straight up the big River, hang a right at Prairie Du Chien and up >>> that river to the first dam, get out of the boat, go east on Hwy 60 >>> to 151 N to 41 N exit at 175 and wave your arms.... someone will >>> pick you up. >>> >>> >>> At 11:22 AM 10/4/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >>> >>>> mm.. and Wisconsin would be where?? ;-) >>>> >>>> Lester >>>> >>>> >>>> .. too far for a weekend trip but damn it sounds like fun! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 4 16:26:23 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:26:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <012301c806d5$98e20890$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Mark" ; "spridgets list" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift FWIW, I have done that for YEARS, yet, last time I was putting an engine in, the ramps shifted sideways, when I was raising and pushing the tranny to get it into the tunnel area. I was in the driveway, with the radio blaring in the garage, the car sitting just about an inch above my chest, and no way to move. I could see the one ramp out beside the car, and the other tire was still on the ramp, just barely, and the ramp was tilted. Between songs, I hollered as loud as I could, for my wife. She came out, anxious to help, and KICKS the ramp with the tire balanced on it. This brought forth a slew of profanity, as I just KNEW I was gonna get the full weight of the car on my chest at any second. I just wanna say, if you ARE going to use ramps, get the best, widest ramps you can find. Brad =================================== So Martha kicked the hell out of the remaining ramp that was the only thing between you and a crushed chest? Sounds like a classic case of too much life insurance. ;-)) LAD From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 17:08:51 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:08:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift In-Reply-To: <012301c806d5$98e20890$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> <00be01c806b1$846a34b0$6401a8c0@Larry> <012301c806d5$98e20890$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Yeah, I had to change my beneficiary over to someone else the next day!!!! On 10/4/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Larry Daniels" > Cc: "Mark" ; "spridgets list" > > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 1:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift > > > FWIW, I have done that for YEARS, yet, last time I was putting an > engine in, the ramps shifted sideways, when I was raising and pushing > the tranny to get it into the tunnel area. I was in the driveway, with > the radio blaring in the garage, the car sitting just about an inch > above my chest, and no way to move. I could see the one ramp out > beside the car, and the other tire was still on the ramp, just barely, > and the ramp was tilted. Between songs, I hollered as loud as I could, > for my wife. She came out, anxious to help, and KICKS the ramp with > the tire balanced on it. This brought forth a slew of profanity, as I > just KNEW I was gonna get the full weight of the car on my chest at > any second. > I just wanna say, if you ARE going to use ramps, get the best, widest > ramps you can find. > > Brad > > =================================== > > So Martha kicked the hell out of the remaining ramp that was the only thing > between you and a crushed chest? > > Sounds like a classic case of too much life insurance. ;-)) > > > LAD > > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Oct 4 17:12:03 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:12:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Unique Car Lift In-Reply-To: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> References: <008d01c806ab$81237ce0$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <68vr7k$1h070q@email.mtu.edu> Just saw this ramp at the Northwood University auto show in Midland, MI. www.rampboss.com. They appear to be a relatively new company from some of the stuff mentioned on their web site. Same idea as the wood ramp, but made of steel. Marketed as a vehicle display device rather than for auto repair. At 01:25 PM 10/4/2007, Mark wrote: >Here is a novel approach to getting your car off the ground. Clever idea, >wonder how safe it really is? > >http://www.classic1800.com/ramp-pit-plans/ > >Mark Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 17:15:40 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 powdercoating Message-ID: <009801c806dc$7d2975a0$777c60e0$@com> I hooked up to the powder coating oven in the shop. works well. I ordered up a Horrible Freight powder coating kit. so, if any of youse guys bring some parts to sandblast, we can try to get them powder coated. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 17:23:52 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <275386.71820.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Deikis, John G" wrote: > John Twist and Tom Colby (Speedwell Engineering) are > both recommending > shims down to zero movement with 45# of torque on > the spindle nut. Zero clearance would work fine if your brakes didn't pump lots of heat into the hub via the rotors. But they do. The hub grows. The bearing seizes. You need clearance. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 4 17:29:30 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:29:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <003701c806bf$bdf7c130$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > Twist is also the one who maintains that a volt/ohm meter > has no purpose when working on an LBC Say what??? If he doesn't understand how to use a meter, I don't trust him to know anything. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 17:33:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:33:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: Message-ID: <028101c806de$f595f110$0301a8c0@midget> >> Twist is also the one who maintains that a volt/ohm meter >> has no purpose when working on an LBC > Say what??? If he doesn't understand how to use a meter, I don't trust him > to know anything. He maintains that a test light will tell you everything you need to know. Me, I can't see the brightness difference between 13.2VDC and 14.5VDC to know whether the alternator is charging or not. David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 17:44:31 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <028101c806de$f595f110$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <360397.29598.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > Me, I can't see the brightness difference between > 13.2VDC and > 14.5VDC to know whether the alternator is charging > or not. But the screwdriver seems to melt faster if you accidentally insert it into the circuit. Ask me how I know... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 18:54:54 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings Message-ID: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! David Lieb From abcoz at hky.com Thu Oct 4 19:02:02 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:02:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Message-ID: <002b01c806eb$57a261c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Haven't been able to join in on this discussion, until now, for a few minutes (but, hey, I've put plenty of miles on my Spridget in the past few days). Anyway, I gotta say, with absolutely now offense meant, that you guys crack me up. How many days is it gonna take you to figure out that the engineers that designed that front spindle assembly had already forgotten more (about engineering) than ANY of you guys are likely to ever know on the subject. Given the nearly impossible economic constraints they were working under, they did a fantastic job. AND, believe me, if they didn't feel that spacer was ABSOLUTELY necessary; it sure as hell wouldn't have been in there! So, if you can't get the bloody thing set correctly, with the shims that are already on there; go out and get some more shims, set it the way the FACTORY WORKSHOP MANUAL tells you to, and go on your merry way with no worries about front wheel bearings. It's worked well for me for over forty years...... The factory workshop manual and the factory special tuning manuals have an incredible wealth of information in them, which the vast majority of Spridget (as well as MGA & MGB) owners & "technicians" ALWAYS seems to overlook. One problem (with the shop manuals) is that the information is not particularly well placed/organized, and requires some serious studying in order to glean all of the information. Enjoy. Bud Osbourne From abcoz at hky.com Thu Oct 4 19:18:31 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:18:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> David, Try your friendly, local hydraulic systems supply house (google search hydraulic hoses). They can make up a jacketed hose for you, which will last just about forever and prevent the vibrations from the compressor from being transmitted to the copper tubing joints. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:55 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! David Lieb _______________________________________________ abcoz at hky.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 19:13:50 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:13:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <002b01c806eb$57a261c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <02c201c806ec$fd19bcb0$0301a8c0@midget> > Anyway, I gotta say, with absolutely now offense meant, that you guys > crack me up. How many days is it gonna take you to figure out that the > engineers that designed that front spindle assembly had already > forgotten more (about engineering) than ANY of you guys are likely to > ever know on the subject. Given the nearly impossible economic > constraints they were working under, they did a fantastic job. AND, > believe me, if they didn't feel that spacer was ABSOLUTELY necessary; it > sure as hell wouldn't have been in there! Bud, That is perfectly true, IF YOU ARE USING THE BALL BEARINGS. If, however, you are converting to tapered roller bearings, it is a different story. You are all welcome to your own opinions, and no offense intended here, either, but the engineers that designed the bearings think that the spacer is ridiculous. Let me guess, you are also one of the proponents of the "long bolt method"? David Lieb From duncan at pondhop.com Thu Oct 4 19:15:20 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <002b01c806eb$57a261c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <002b01c806eb$57a261c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <014401c806ed$371f40b0$a55dc210$@com> Good point Bud but this regular discussion was on the user of taper roller bearings not the regular ball bearings. Makes some differences. Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Bud Osbourne [mailto:abcoz at hky.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:02 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Haven't been able to join in on this discussion, until now, for a few minutes (but, hey, I've put plenty of miles on my Spridget in the past few days). Anyway, I gotta say, with absolutely now offense meant, that you guys crack me up. How many days is it gonna take you to figure out that the engineers that designed that front spindle assembly had already forgotten more (about engineering) than ANY of you guys are likely to ever know on the subject. Given the nearly impossible economic constraints they were working under, they did a fantastic job. AND, believe me, if they didn't feel that spacer was ABSOLUTELY necessary; it sure as hell wouldn't have been in there! So, if you can't get the bloody thing set correctly, with the shims that are already on there; go out and get some more shims, set it the way the FACTORY WORKSHOP MANUAL tells you to, and go on your merry way with no worries about front wheel bearings. It's worked well for me for over forty years...... The factory workshop manual and the factory special tuning manuals have an incredible wealth of information in them, which the vast majority of Spridget (as well as MGA & MGB) owners & "technicians" ALWAYS seems to overlook. One problem (with the shop manuals) is that the information is not particularly well placed/organized, and requires some serious studying in order to glean all of the information. Enjoy. Bud Osbourne _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Thu Oct 4 19:20:33 2007 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:20:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings References: <002b01c806eb$57a261c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <003301c806ed$ed1c9bb0$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Bud, They'll be some good replies to this, I bet! Can't wait. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings > Haven't been able to join in on this discussion, until now, for a few > minutes (but, hey, I've put plenty of miles on my Spridget in the past > few days). > Anyway, I gotta say, with absolutely now offense meant, that you guys > crack me up. How many days is it gonna take you to figure out that the > engineers that designed that front spindle assembly had already > forgotten more (about engineering) than ANY of you guys are likely to > ever know on the subject. Given the nearly impossible economic > constraints they were working under, they did a fantastic job. AND, > believe me, if they didn't feel that spacer was ABSOLUTELY necessary; it > sure as hell wouldn't have been in there! > So, if you can't get the bloody thing set correctly, with the shims that > are already on there; go out and get some more shims, set it the way the > FACTORY WORKSHOP MANUAL tells you to, and go on your merry way with no > worries about front wheel bearings. It's worked well for me for over > forty years...... > The factory workshop manual and the factory special tuning manuals have > an incredible wealth of information in them, which the vast majority of > Spridget (as well as MGA & MGB) owners & "technicians" ALWAYS seems to > overlook. One problem (with the shop manuals) is that the information > is not particularly well placed/organized, and requires some serious > studying in order to glean all of the information. > Enjoy. > Bud Osbourne > _______________________________________________ > mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 19:25:47 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:25:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4705929B.7030300@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time > to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" > schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with > me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to > the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! Do NOT use a chinese made filter/regulator unless you want to replace it twice a year. And that includes crapsmans brand. I have a set up I bought at the real tools supply Van Sant Industrial supply but they are local. I also use PVC pipe (schedule 40) for my air lines and they have been in use for over 10 years with only one burst. So Never, EVER stick an open flame heater UNDER the PVC air pipe because it will grow to 15 times it's normal size before bursting and scaring the crap out of everybody in the garage. Other than that, no leaks, no problems, but do use the primer and correct glue. Install drip tubes with valves to get the water out of the lines directly under your air outlets. Install ball valves to shut down lines. I hard piped my compressor with 1/2" galvanized to a manifold where it goes to PVC. Strap the pipe and bolt the compressor down. If it all is floating, use a rubber hose from comp to manifold. For air hoses Flexeel can not be beat, avoid those hard to roll up HD and HF specials. They will burst. The Flex-eels roll up beatifully, and I have lots of years out of them, probably 7 or 8 and still in perfect shape. I do have a goodyear (US made) rubber hose in the garage and it is showing it's age but it's about 10 years old. I also have a couple of cheap recoil hoses near things where a blow gun or powdercoater is used, they are OK as long as there is a shut off at the pipe end, they tend to leak, kink, and fail in a few years but they are cheap and convenient. Good luck finding decent air tools, even the expensive ones are made in china these days. Yard sale!!! A word of advise because I know it gets cold in Chicago. Watch the temp and the water in the copper lines when it's below freezing, a little water in the ball valves might break the valve. Drain the pipes daily in the winter. Be sure to have a water separator at the manifold before the regulator and make provisions so you can add/remove/change fittings, separators, regulators, and gauges when the time comes. You don't want to cut out all that copper and try to piece it back to replace a regulator. Unions, couplers, whatever it takes. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 19:29:03 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:29:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> I have a friend with a nice body shop. They fix newer high end cars, some that haven't been sold yet. They use PVC for compressed air runs. They run somewhere between 150-200 PSI which is probably more than your home compressor. I don't know how big your shop is or where your runs will go but Copper ain't cheap. If you are going less than 100 feet I would just get a couple of 50 foot hoses and couple them together when you need more than 50. If you must have some solid runs or some kind of manifold, PVC is way cheaper and easier to deal with than Copper. Surely Copper would be nice, though. I have some of the blue hose from Horrible Frait and it works well but is a pain to wrangle when it comes time to uncoil it or roll it up. Cheers, Derf From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 19:32:36 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister Message-ID: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, MI, with spares. This anonymous lister (FRANK CLARICI ) could use help getting it anywhere southeast of Flint, or anywhere closer to his secret home (TOMS RIVER, NJ). Can we figure a way to daisy chain this lister's car to him? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 From pvanwig at charter.net Thu Oct 4 19:33:31 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:33:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002b01c806ef$c00a25a0$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Once again this is not rocket science skip the copper use abs plastic sprinkler tubing. My compressor is mounted on the wall just off level enough to have the drain on the low end with a two foot piece of nylon tubing with the drain valve on the end (easy to see when water is in tank) The main line after the regulator is u shaped over size on the way (to prevent water from getting to the main line) up to the line with a drain valve on the bottom again. Never bothered with a filter but I don't paint or use tools just air. This is the set up we used in the Pattern Making shop for over 30 years! And I've seen set ups like this in many shops over the years. Paul Van Wig -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 5:55 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! David Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 19:35:19 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:35:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00b601c806ef$ff493f80$fddbbe80$@com> If this certain anonymous lister comes to SOS, I'll give him a trailer top pick up the car with on hos way home. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:33 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, MI, with spares. This anonymous lister (FRANK CLARICI ) could use help getting it anywhere southeast of Flint, or anywhere closer to his secret home (TOMS RIVER, NJ). Can we figure a way to daisy chain this lister's car to him? Ron From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 19:37:59 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:37:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <002b01c806ef$c00a25a0$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002b01c806ef$c00a25a0$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Message-ID: <00b701c806f0$5f57b3c0$1e071b40$@com> The Dream Farm Thicko International shop is plumbed with plastic pipe. I got a high pressure rubber hose from Fleet Farm that goes from the compressor to a manifold, where it splits off via plastic to all corners of the shop. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Van Wig Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:34 PM To: 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings Once again this is not rocket science skip the copper use abs plastic sprinkler tubing. My compressor is mounted on the wall just off level enough to have the drain on the low end with a two foot piece of nylon tubing with the drain valve on the end (easy to see when water is in tank) The main line after the regulator is u shaped over size on the way (to prevent water from getting to the main line) up to the line with a drain valve on the bottom again. Never bothered with a filter but I don't paint or use tools just air. This is the set up we used in the Pattern Making shop for over 30 years! And I've seen set ups like this in many shops over the years. Paul Van Wig From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 4 19:43:26 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:43:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> >I have a friend with a nice body shop. They fix newer high end cars, > some that haven't been sold yet. They use PVC for compressed air > runs. They run somewhere between 150-200 PSI which is probably more > than your home compressor. Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC under any circumstances because of the issues with becoming brittle with time, sunlight, chemicals , etc. The idea of pvc shrapnel is not enticing. Sounds like someone had an accident which is still haunting them. My garage is only about 22 x 22, so I will not go broke on copper tubing (FINALLY, a benefit to having inadequate space!). Farm & Fleet sounds like a good idea, too. I keep forgetting them and I shouldn't. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 19:44:18 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:44:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK > CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, > MI, with spares. Thanks Ron but the trailer is hooked to the truck as I type, and like the monkey said when he backed up to the fan.... They're OFF! In the morning my son and I are taking a road trip. I bought a 67 Sprite, and Jr may have bought a VW somewhere out in PA. The VW drives, the Sprite looks like a 60 day project all disassembled, no interior, rust, primer, and dents. But I did have the seats redone even before I bought the car. And I did a couple of dashboards for it, powdercoated the front suspension, rear hubs and axles, but I need to see just what I bought before I go crazy fixing up all the bolt on stuff. Anonymous From refisk at chartermi.net Thu Oct 4 19:48:51 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:48:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <024a01c806f1$e13bd960$6401a8c0@refisk> I live 15 miles north of Flint, MI. But that doesn't help much in getting the car to NJ. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister >A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK > CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, > MI, with spares. This anonymous lister (FRANK CLARICI > ) could use help getting it anywhere southeast of > Flint, or anywhere closer to his secret home (TOMS > RIVER, NJ). Can we figure a way to daisy chain this > lister's car to him? > > Ron From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 19:52:30 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:52:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00b901c806f2$65ee56b0$31cb0410$@com> Hell, in that case, you can drive the newly restored '67 out to Wisco in late November. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:44 PM To: Ron Soave Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help a lister Ron Soave wrote: > A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK > CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, > MI, with spares. Thanks Ron but the trailer is hooked to the truck as I type, and like the monkey said when he backed up to the fan.... They're OFF! In the morning my son and I are taking a road trip. I bought a 67 Sprite, and Jr may have bought a VW somewhere out in PA. The VW drives, the Sprite looks like a 60 day project all disassembled, no interior, rust, primer, and dents. But I did have the seats redone even before I bought the car. And I did a couple of dashboards for it, powdercoated the front suspension, rear hubs and axles, but I need to see just what I bought before I go crazy fixing up all the bolt on stuff. Anonymous From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 19:51:26 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:51:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <4705989E.2060802@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC Have you priced copper lately? Ball valves in brass? What cost me a hundred bucks 10 years ago in plastic will cost you over 1000 bucks today. Besides, are GRM plumbers? My plumber convinced me to use PVC, just use the right stuff, not CPVC and not the home defect cheap stuff. Be sure it is schedule 40 PVC or ABS and is rated for 600 psi. Sure if it runs over the roof outside and in Florida or so Cal, I would worry about it becoming brittle but in the garage out of direct sunlight, PVC works for me. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From abcoz at hky.com Thu Oct 4 20:03:24 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:03:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings In-Reply-To: <02c201c806ec$fd19bcb0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002e01c806f3$e9f18bc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> And I'd have to ask why you would want to convert to tapered roller bearings, in the first place......yes; the OE ball bearings are completely capable of handling whatever loads you impose upon them. And, yes, there are Spridgets racing (very successfully) with the ball bearings (I know of one particularly successful one, just a few years ago, from SCCA CENDIV) And, which one of the "engineers that designed the bearings" did you hear that from???? How many decades has it been since a new bearing, in that particular size and load rating, was designed????? Now, a "bearing engineer" might tell you that the spacer is ridiculous, but, he would be thinking only of whether or not the BEARINGS need the spacer, or not. I think we both know that he would have no interest (nor the training) to determine whether or not the loads placed upon the spindle would require that spacer. Uh, "long bolt method"? I'm afraid you'll need to enlighten me on that one, David. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:14 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings > Anyway, I gotta say, with absolutely now offense meant, that you guys > crack me up. How many days is it gonna take you to figure out that the > engineers that designed that front spindle assembly had already > forgotten more (about engineering) than ANY of you guys are likely to > ever know on the subject. Given the nearly impossible economic > constraints they were working under, they did a fantastic job. AND, > believe me, if they didn't feel that spacer was ABSOLUTELY necessary; it > sure as hell wouldn't have been in there! Bud, That is perfectly true, IF YOU ARE USING THE BALL BEARINGS. If, however, you are converting to tapered roller bearings, it is a different story. You are all welcome to your own opinions, and no offense intended here, either, but the engineers that designed the bearings think that the spacer is ridiculous. Let me guess, you are also one of the proponents of the "long bolt method"? David Lieb From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 19:58:30 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:58:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <4705989E.2060802@comcast.net> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <4705989E.2060802@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00ba01c806f3$3c4b0c30$b4e12490$@com> Yeah... what he said. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 8:51 PM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings David Lieb wrote: > Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC Have you priced copper lately? Ball valves in brass? What cost me a hundred bucks 10 years ago in plastic will cost you over 1000 bucks today. Besides, are GRM plumbers? My plumber convinced me to use PVC, just use the right stuff, not CPVC and not the home defect cheap stuff. Be sure it is schedule 40 PVC or ABS and is rated for 600 psi. Sure if it runs over the roof outside and in Florida or so Cal, I would worry about it becoming brittle but in the garage out of direct sunlight, PVC works for me. -- Frank Clarici From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 20:07:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:07:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041907o769bd360y8cb0fa94601d2e5d@mail.gmail.com> Someone should REALLY document a Clarici resto job and publish it. Frank, keep a log and take lotsa digital pics. The process could not only show people how it is done from a practical standpoint, but also show people that it isn't as hard or expensive as they might think. The Spirit of the Sprite carries on into the 21st century where 2 months, 2 thousand bucks, and a little work nets you a solid classic sports car. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 20:10:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:10:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <00ba01c806f3$3c4b0c30$b4e12490$@com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <4705989E.2060802@comcast.net> <00ba01c806f3$3c4b0c30$b4e12490$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710041910h306e4249v690b0492c8e9d5b8@mail.gmail.com> > Yeah... what he said. Double ditto. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 4 20:11:53 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:11:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: PVC is OK if you like wet air. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 4 20:15:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:15:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: References: <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <00bb01c806f5$a0a5be30$e1f13a90$@com> Don't have issues with that... but my shop stays between 60 and 75 degrees all year. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:12 PM To: David Lieb; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings PVC is OK if you like wet air. _______________________________________________ From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Oct 4 20:23:36 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:23:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister Message-ID: <68vr7k$1h1391@email.mtu.edu> Any anonymous (OK, anybody) lister who is contemplating a trip to Flint MI should consider what armaments might be appropriate for the trip. I know this list can help with this too! LOL Tim (out of range - North of Flint) At 09:32 PM 10/4/2007, you wrote: >A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK >CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, >MI, Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 20:29:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:29:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$1h1391@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$1h1391@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4705A18E.4020404@comcast.net> Timothy H. Collins wrote: > Tim (out of range - North of Flint) Ah but the car is in Midland, or Freeland to be exact. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 20:40:22 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:40:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <029301c806f9$14b21e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> <<...but the trailer is hooked to the truck >> WHY not the jag, Frank?? Heck of a better ride!!!!! Anon From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 4 20:46:54 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:46:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <029301c806f9$14b21e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <470596F2.40102@comcast.net> <029301c806f9$14b21e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <4705A59E.1090701@comcast.net> 63AHBJ7 wrote: > <<...but the trailer is hooked to the truck >> > > WHY not the jag, Frank?? Heck of a better ride!!!!! No REAL bumper to bolt a ball to on that modern plastic car. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 22:00:06 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <930179.72375.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did they say why to use copper? I did not do any research on what to use. I was not even looking for one at the time. I bought it on a Friday night at a auction and installed the next morning. I ran PVC and i have had no problems. At the bench I have 8 lines i came off the main line these i have water filter/oilers because some of the tools require oil. Much nicer then having to worry about the oil and burning up the tool. The others i only have water filters. If i remember correctly the size depends on the output of the unit. I installed 150' that covers 3 walls of the shop and all drops. I have one line that runs outside in case i want to sand blast. I also have a valves to clean out the line in four places. The hose also depends on the application. The curly yellow ones work well at the work bench and the small hand tools. (not sure the size) For the bigger tools i use the blue or red firm hard hose. I used the pop off fittings to change over on all the connections except one of the hand tools. It can only be disconnected at the far end of the hose. It has a swivel connector on the tool side so it never gets in the way. Vigil David Lieb wrote: I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! David Lieb _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 22:07:48 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <4705929B.7030300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <151493.29754.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I for got to put that i also used PVC. That is why i asked. I was told PVC was fine. Vigil Frank Clarici wrote: David Lieb wrote: > I have finally gotten the wiring done for my air compressor. Now it is time > to do some plumbing for it. Grassroots Motorsports recommends using 3/4" > schedule L or K copper tubing for the main run with 1/2" drops. Fine with > me. Questions arise as to appropriate hose to connect from the compressor to > the tubing, whose filter and regulator to use, etc. Speak to me! Do NOT use a chinese made filter/regulator unless you want to replace it twice a year. And that includes crapsmans brand. I have a set up I bought at the real tools supply Van Sant Industrial supply but they are local. I also use PVC pipe (schedule 40) for my air lines and they have been in use for over 10 years with only one burst. So Never, EVER stick an open flame heater UNDER the PVC air pipe because it will grow to 15 times it's normal size before bursting and scaring the crap out of everybody in the garage. Other than that, no leaks, no problems, but do use the primer and correct glue. Install drip tubes with valves to get the water out of the lines directly under your air outlets. Install ball valves to shut down lines. I hard piped my compressor with 1/2" galvanized to a manifold where it goes to PVC. Strap the pipe and bolt the compressor down. If it all is floating, use a rubber hose from comp to manifold. For air hoses Flexeel can not be beat, avoid those hard to roll up HD and HF specials. They will burst. The Flex-eels roll up beatifully, and I have lots of years out of them, probably 7 or 8 and still in perfect shape. I do have a goodyear (US made) rubber hose in the garage and it is showing it's age but it's about 10 years old. I also have a couple of cheap recoil hoses near things where a blow gun or powdercoater is used, they are OK as long as there is a shut off at the pipe end, they tend to leak, kink, and fail in a few years but they are cheap and convenient. Good luck finding decent air tools, even the expensive ones are made in china these days. Yard sale!!! A word of advise because I know it gets cold in Chicago. Watch the temp and the water in the copper lines when it's below freezing, a little water in the ball valves might break the valve. Drain the pipes daily in the winter. Be sure to have a water separator at the manifold before the regulator and make provisions so you can add/remove/change fittings, separators, regulators, and gauges when the time comes. You don't want to cut out all that copper and try to piece it back to replace a regulator. Unions, couplers, whatever it takes. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 22:16:41 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402265.79275.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, What a great idea. I wish i was on the way. I would for sure help. If some one can get it to me in California i will take it to Arizona for him.........LOL Vigil Ron Soave wrote: A certain anonymous list member (let's call him "FRANK CLARICI), just bought a roller 1967 Sprite in Flint, MI, with spares. This anonymous lister (FRANK CLARICI ) could use help getting it anywhere southeast of Flint, or anywhere closer to his secret home (TOMS RIVER, NJ). Can we figure a way to daisy chain this lister's car to him? Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Oct 4 22:46:01 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <446571.29606.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Billy, All air is wet. I am not sure where were you going with that statement? I had copper in one of my shops. I found l had to use filters to remove water at the out lets even with the snappy filter every one is referring to at the compressor. The main filter only can do so much. I found the oiler helps to for some tools. Others say they do not. I have some tools made in 1960 and still run like new. I do not use them as much now because of there weight. But for some applications they kick rear over the new tools. Vigil Billy Zoom wrote: PVC is OK if you like wet air. _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From wesferris at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 06:41:14 2007 From: wesferris at gmail.com (Wes Ferris) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:41:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <46ac30bf0710050541m7836547cw437c5b248979c02d@mail.gmail.com> *unsubscribe spidgets wesferris at gmail.com*** From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 06:45:46 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:45:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sheboygan WI Message-ID: It looks like I will be in town in around two weeks. Anyone live in that area? I don't know if I'll have the time, but if I do, I'd like to tip a glass and tell some lies, if anyone is interested. Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bpazur at excel.net Fri Oct 5 08:20:02 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:20:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sheboygan WI Message-ID: <200710051420.l95EK2wU009861@green.excel.net> Brad wrote: It looks like I will be in town in around two weeks. Anyone live in that area? I don't know if I'll have the time, but if I do, I'd like to tip a glass and tell some lies, if anyone is interested. Brad - I am typing this from Sheboygan, where I work. (I live about 25 minutes west). I would like to meet you and talk some Spridget. Bud Pazur '60 Bugeye - Street Car - 1275cc - 'Mr. White' Race Spridget - 1275cc - 'SilverStreak' "The Buddha ... resides as comfortably in the gears of a ...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower." - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 5 08:44:38 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 09:44:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> At 08:43 PM 10/4/2007, David Lieb wrote: > >I have a friend with a nice body shop. They fix newer high end cars, > > some that haven't been sold yet. They use PVC for compressed air > > runs. They run somewhere between 150-200 PSI which is probably more > > than your home compressor. > >Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC >under any circumstances because of the issues with becoming brittle >with time, sunlight, chemicals , etc. The idea of pvc shrapnel is not >enticing. Sounds like someone had an accident which is still haunting >them. My garage is only about 22 x 22, so I will not go broke on >copper tubing (FINALLY, a benefit to having inadequate space!). >Farm & Fleet sounds like a good idea, too. I keep forgetting them >and I shouldn't. ================== Ummm I advocate black iron pipe. (not galvanized). Also available at F&F. Run some drops for drainage. We've been running it for 25 years on the same compressor that was 30 years old when we bought it. Air tools running daily, plus a bead blaster. No worries. I love plastics for many things, but not this. Peter C. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Oct 5 09:06:40 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:06:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <446571.29606.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > All air is wet. I am not sure where were you going with that statement? You can't filter steam. The air has to be cooled so the moisture condenses into water droplets. PVC doesn't dissipate heat. I use 1/2" pipe with about 30 feet of pipe and two water traps before the first filter/regulator. I have a small shop, so the pipe runs from the tank, to end of the room, and back. It slopes away from the compressor all the way. The water traps drop down, the air lines go up and then down. The water traps have ball valves with turn-outs. They blow out large amounts of water every morning, but the filters never collect more than a few drops because the air is dry by the time it gets to them. There's a good diagram here: http://www.tptools.com/StaticText/airline-piping-diagram.pdf From lists at woozy.com Fri Oct 5 09:22:12 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:22:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <470656A4.7000800@woozy.com> FWIW - Both cabinet shops I worked in used black iron pipe. The last shop I worked in the pipe had been there for 30+ years with various air tools running pretty much constantly M-F and many a Saturday too! ;-) Robert Peter C wrote: > ================== > Ummm I advocate black iron pipe. (not galvanized). Also available > at F&F. Run some drops for drainage. We've been running it for 25 > years on the same compressor that was 30 years old when we bought it. > Air tools running daily, plus a bead blaster. No worries. I love > plastics for many things, but not this. > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Oct 5 11:22:40 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:22:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> What Peter said.. here is the link from Tip Tools.. it's the way I plumed my shop as well. Lester http://www.tptools.com/StaticText/airline-piping-diagram.pdf There is sound reasoning on why to use black pipe if you read . On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Peter C wrote: > At 08:43 PM 10/4/2007, David Lieb wrote: > >>> I have a friend with a nice body shop. They fix newer high end >>> cars, >>> some that haven't been sold yet. They use PVC for compressed air >>> runs. They run somewhere between 150-200 PSI which is probably >>> more >>> than your home compressor. >> >> Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC >> under any circumstances because of the issues with becoming brittle >> with time, sunlight, chemicals , etc. The idea of pvc shrapnel is not >> enticing. Sounds like someone had an accident which is still haunting >> them. My garage is only about 22 x 22, so I will not go broke on >> copper tubing (FINALLY, a benefit to having inadequate space!). >> Farm & Fleet sounds like a good idea, too. I keep forgetting them >> and I shouldn't. > ================== > Ummm I advocate black iron pipe. (not galvanized). Also available > at F&F. Run some drops for drainage. We've been running it for 25 > years on the same compressor that was 30 years old when we bought it. > Air tools running daily, plus a bead blaster. No worries. I love > plastics for many things, but not this. > > Peter C. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 11:22:50 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:22:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister In-Reply-To: <402265.79275.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <402265.79275.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710051022r5c7840d3xeb46bb1e2896655e@mail.gmail.com> I would wait, fly out to SOS and turn it from a basket case to a runner there, and then drive it back to Toms River. That is, if I were SuperFrank. Anyone able to pick it up on the way to SOS? From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Oct 5 11:41:45 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:41:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help a lister References: <662657.22420.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402265.79275.qm@web38912.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910710051022r5c7840d3xeb46bb1e2896655e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02fa01c80776$ffdedc70$6401a8c0@refisk> Frank is already on the road with his truck and trailer. I am planning on having breakfast with him and his son tomorrow morning before he picks up the car. I live just a few miles from where the car is located. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help a lister >I would wait, fly out to SOS and turn it from a basket case to a > runner there, and then drive it back to Toms River. That is, if I > were SuperFrank. > Anyone able to pick it up on the way to SOS? From pelliott at innercite.com Fri Oct 5 13:00:13 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:00:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0a3e01c80781$f6eb23c0$e4c16b40$@com> And here's where the difference between a commercial shop that uses allot of air and a home garage installation really comes into play. If you're a decent sized, multi-bay shop running your compressor throughout the day, with long runs of air lines, Then Yes, iron pipe will quickly cool and help dry your air. Providing you years of blowing power. If you plan on doing a bunch of painting and live in a moderately humid area, Then Iron is your pipe of Choice! With that said, For home garages, shops, palaces of spritely pleasure, etc PVC will be easier, cheaper, and provide the same level of service. Design in a couple of low points with drain valves, Drain the bottom of your compressor more then once a year, live in peace.. This horse is now dead.. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oldsaabguy Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:23 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings What Peter said.. here is the link from Tip Tools.. it's the way I plumed my shop as well. Lester http://www.tptools.com/StaticText/airline-piping-diagram.pdf There is sound reasoning on why to use black pipe if you read . On Oct 5, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Peter C wrote: > At 08:43 PM 10/4/2007, David Lieb wrote: > >>> I have a friend with a nice body shop. They fix newer high end >>> cars, >>> some that haven't been sold yet. They use PVC for compressed air >>> runs. They run somewhere between 150-200 PSI which is probably >>> more >>> than your home compressor. >> >> Hmm, you are all saying PVC, but GRM emphasizes NOT to use PVC >> under any circumstances because of the issues with becoming brittle >> with time, sunlight, chemicals , etc. The idea of pvc shrapnel is not >> enticing. Sounds like someone had an accident which is still haunting >> them. My garage is only about 22 x 22, so I will not go broke on >> copper tubing (FINALLY, a benefit to having inadequate space!). >> Farm & Fleet sounds like a good idea, too. I keep forgetting them >> and I shouldn't. > ================== > Ummm I advocate black iron pipe. (not galvanized). Also available > at F&F. Run some drops for drainage. We've been running it for 25 > years on the same compressor that was 30 years old when we bought it. > Air tools running daily, plus a bead blaster. No worries. I love > plastics for many things, but not this. > > Peter C. _______________________________________________ pelliott at innercite.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1051 - Release Date: 10/5/2007 12:27 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1051 - Release Date: 10/5/2007 12:27 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 15:26:28 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:26:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: Message-ID: <02b801c80796$6492cbd0$6401a8c0@Larry> How to say 'I love you' in 25 languages. English: I Love You Spanish: Te Amo French: Je T'aime German: lch Liebe Dich Japanese: Ai Shite Imasu Italian: Ti Amo Chinese: Wo Ai Ni Swedish: Jag Alskar Alabama Arkansas Oklahoma Texas North Carolina South Carolina Georgia Tennessee Mississippi Louisiana Virginia West Virginia Kentucky parts of Florida: Nice Ass, Get in the truck From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Oct 5 15:35:43 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: References: <02b801c80796$6492cbd0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <04f901c80797$af14ef20$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> And in Wisconsin: Nice Ass Cow, Get in the truck From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Fri Oct 5 16:03:31 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:03:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget><002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com><02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> Message-ID: <05d801c8079b$915a5200$6601a8c0@actualshop> I think we are ALL dying to know, Lester... <> What bird did you pick for it's feathers??? How did you pluck?? From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Oct 5 16:13:33 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:13:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sheboygan WI In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003601c8079c$fa0dcc40$ee2964c0$@com> You'll be an hour from the Team Thicko International Headquarters at the Dream Farm. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:46 AM To: spridgets list; Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Sheboygan WI It looks like I will be in town in around two weeks. Anyone live in that area? I don't know if I'll have the time, but if I do, I'd like to tip a glass and tell some lies, if anyone is interested. Brad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 5 18:00:20 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:00:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget> Just in case any of you were curious, I can now state unconditionally that Flounder does NOT run a chicken-shit operation. Having been involved in the mass migration from Lake Villa to Dream Farm and having spent this morning helping Larry and Flounder load up the stuff from Dane, WI, I assure you that it is definitely a raccoon-shit operation that he runs. I have never seen such piles of it as festooned his latest acquisitions. From the sizes involved, I am glad we were working in broad daylight; I would not want to meet any of them in a dark alley. David Lieb From dmg at bossig.com Fri Oct 5 18:04:11 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:04:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget> References: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <47066E8B.7778.2206B46@dmg.bossig.com> I used to know a girl like that......... I'm happy she married my buddy..... He's not so happy... On 5 Oct 2007 at 19:00, David Lieb wrote: >> I would not want to >> meet any of them in a dark alley. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 18:16:25 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:16:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <030001c807ae$22669030$6401a8c0@Larry> I concur wholeheartedly. Had it not been that he bought lunch at a (really cheap) roadside diner where a hamburger bun cut my lip open, I, too, might have found fit to criticize the recovery effort he sucked us into. Actually, it was another typical flounderesque deal of the century. We just needed to wade through several inches of raccoon sh_t to find the treasure. Which, of course, means that Flounder's indebtedness extends just that much deeper. Time will eventually come to settle up. It will be so sweet. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Just in case any of you were curious, I can now state unconditionally that Flounder does NOT run a chicken-shit operation. Having been involved in the mass migration from Lake Villa to Dream Farm and having spent this morning helping Larry and Flounder load up the stuff from Dane, WI, I assure you that it is definitely a raccoon-shit operation that he runs. I have never seen such piles of it as festooned his latest acquisitions. From the sizes involved, I am glad we were working in broad daylight; I would not want to meet any of them in a dark alley. David Lieb _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 5:03 PM From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Fri Oct 5 18:17:41 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:17:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: In-Reply-To: <02b801c80796$6492cbd0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <02b801c80796$6492cbd0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: As a southerner by choice, not birth, I take offense at that. I don't even own a truck. It is "Nice ass, get in the Sprite (or Tiger)." BTW, in Arkansas, it is "Get in the pickup, sis." Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: > How to say 'I love you' in 25 languages. > > > > English: > > I Love You > > > Spanish: > > Te Amo > > > French: > > Je T'aime > > > German: > > lch Liebe Dich > > > Japanese: > > Ai Shite Imasu > > > Italian: > > Ti Amo > > > Chinese: > > Wo Ai Ni > > > Swedish: > > Jag Alskar > > > Alabama > Arkansas > Oklahoma > Texas > North Carolina > South Carolina > Georgia > Tennessee > Mississippi > Louisiana > Virginia > West Virginia > Kentucky > parts of Florida: > > Nice Ass, Get in the truck From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 18:28:05 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:28:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: References: <02b801c80796$6492cbd0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <031501c807af$c3be9ee0$6401a8c0@Larry> Thanks, Jim. That was even better than the original joke (joke?). LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "James E. Pickard" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: As a southerner by choice, not birth, I take offense at that. I don't even own a truck. It is "Nice ass, get in the Sprite (or Tiger)." BTW, in Arkansas, it is "Get in the pickup, sis." Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] For All You Southerners: > How to say 'I love you' in 25 languages. > > > > English: > > I Love You > > > Spanish: > > Te Amo > > > French: > > Je T'aime > > > German: > > lch Liebe Dich > > > Japanese: > > Ai Shite Imasu > > > Italian: > > Ti Amo > > > Chinese: > > Wo Ai Ni > > > Swedish: > > Jag Alskar > > > Alabama > Arkansas > Oklahoma > Texas > North Carolina > South Carolina > Georgia > Tennessee > Mississippi > Louisiana > Virginia > West Virginia > Kentucky > parts of Florida: > > Nice Ass, Get in the truck -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 5:03 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 5 18:32:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:32:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget> <030001c807ae$22669030$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <037e01c807b0$69cd9b60$0301a8c0@midget> >I concur wholeheartedly. Had it not been that he bought lunch at a (really > cheap) roadside diner where a hamburger bun cut my lip open, I, too, might > have found fit to criticize the recovery effort he sucked us into. Who was criticising? Not me! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 18:39:02 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:39:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget><030001c807ae$22669030$6401a8c0@Larry> <037e01c807b0$69cd9b60$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <031c01c807b1$4bd56060$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation >I concur wholeheartedly. Had it not been that he bought lunch at a (really > cheap) roadside diner where a hamburger bun cut my lip open, I, too, might > have found fit to criticize the recovery effort he sucked us into. Who was criticising? Not me! ======================= You just liked meandering through the raccoon sh-t without shoes. I, on the other hand, wished I had brought a really old, crappy pair of tennies that I could throw out the window on the way home. Same experience; different perspective. ;-)) See you at SOS? LAD From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 5 18:41:00 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:41:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <380-2200710660410343@earthlink.net> David Lieb wrote: "Who was criticising?" I vote for Frank. He's not around to defend himself! Buster From refisk at chartermi.net Fri Oct 5 18:53:14 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:53:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <380-2200710660410343@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <03fb01c807b3$469242b0$6401a8c0@refisk> I just talked to Frank. He's still on the road somewhere in Ohio..... Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "David Lieb" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation > > I vote for Frank. He's not around to defend himself! > > Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 5 19:22:26 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:22:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <380-22007106612226765@earthlink.net> Rick Fisk wrote: He's still on the road somewhere in Ohio....." Yeah, with the emphasis on "somewhere". I just hope Frankie can read a map better than Frank. Lordie, I have seen him with a map on a simple road in England! (I had wondered why Pam wanted to know where my life insurance policies were.) Buster From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 19:51:41 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:51:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <380-22007106612226765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <04c301c807bb$720c59f0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Buster, Frank has had a "revelation" and/or "re-bourn"!! About a month ago, there's a SHARP rap on my shop door. And I DO mean sharp. I yell "come in." (which ALWAYS works). Nada. 'nother SHARP rap. I yell again with same result!!! SO, 'nother SHARP rap and I said to myself WTF and get up and answer Da Door. WHO/WHAT/Mirage is standing there (with The Lady Di outta sight)??? Yep, himself!!! After awhile Frank DOES ADMIT that he borrowed his Dad's GPS and prior to leaving home, punched in my address. He was in AWE of the ting AND stuff that the thing told him to do when he & The Lady Di pulled off Interstate for motel or food!!!! If you think HIS "awe" was something, imagine MINE when he ADMITTED to using one!!! His last "arrival" here was in "Pieces" (alomost 10 years to the week) and half that trip was in the rain!!! LOL Ed PS: And I asked Rick earlier today to find out whether he had bought his OWN!!!! From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Fri Oct 5 20:07:16 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:07:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Curious problem Message-ID: <6EA16A541C8E4B51AB2087F2EB9FC09A@JEPHome> The headlights and turn signals in my bug-eye both work - just not at the same time! With the headlights on, the turn signals don't work at all. With the running lights on, the turn signals work slowing. Without either the headlights or running lights, the turn signals work normally. Any suggestions? I've already cleaned the ground on the positive side of the battery and behind the flasher unit. Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Oct 5 20:21:17 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:21:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Curious problem In-Reply-To: <6EA16A541C8E4B51AB2087F2EB9FC09A@JEPHome> References: <6EA16A541C8E4B51AB2087F2EB9FC09A@JEPHome> Message-ID: <1828729511.20071005192117@pacifier.com> Hello James, i would check the connections to the light switch. sounds like the turn signals are wired through it somehow instead of being on their own..... when the headlights are on, the turn signals don't get enough current to operate the flasher, (i'll bet the signals themselves DO come on, just very dimly), as the flasher operates with a bimetalic strip, that is, its like a thermostat in a house, the current flow causes heat which straightens the spring.. breaking contact, causing cooling, tightening the coil making contact, etc...when the running lights are on, more current flows, enough to make and break the contacts, but very slowly, and with it all off, enough current flows to operate the flasher unit.... ..if its not at the lighting switch, it IS somewhere .. follow the signal wire back until you find out where its in with the lights! -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Oct 5 20:26:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <031c01c807b1$4bd56060$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <036501c807ab$e2f7c5b0$0301a8c0@midget><030001c807ae$22669030$6401a8c0@Larry> <037e01c807b0$69cd9b60$0301a8c0@midget> <031c01c807b1$4bd56060$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com> I got the power washer out, and hit the 2 cars we brought home today for at least an hour. On the Bugeye, there was raccoon sh*t 10" deep. The whole chicken coop where these 4 cars were had 3" to 4" covering the entire floor. Luckily, despite some flat tires and some stuck brakes, and the fact that they were crammed in there, they all came out relatively easy. (We yanked 'em out with a 4x4 Suburban.) If Frank wants to restore the Bugeye we yanked out of there today (minus the raccoon sh*t), he's welcome to it... I'll even toss in a free trailer. Larry's the only guy I know that could cut his lip on a hamburger bun. ======================= You just liked meandering through the raccoon sh-t without shoes. I, on the other hand, wished I had brought a really old, crappy pair of tennies that I could throw out the window on the way home. Same experience; different perspective. ;-)) See you at SOS? LAD _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Oct 5 20:35:50 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com> Message-ID: <440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Larry's the only guy I know that could cut his lip > on a hamburger bun. I was kind of waiting for that story. Do tell. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Oct 5 20:47:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:47:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com> <440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c807c3$4bef72e0$e3ce58a0$@com> I swear to god... we're sittin' there... they bring our burgers.... Larry takes a bite, and starts bleedin' like Jerry Quarry. We ended up bummin' a bandaid from the waitress, and Larry ate his meal with his lower lip taped up. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Larry's the only guy I know that could cut his lip > on a hamburger bun. I was kind of waiting for that story. Do tell. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ wsthompson at thicko.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 20:59:24 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:59:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Curious problem In-Reply-To: <6EA16A541C8E4B51AB2087F2EB9FC09A@JEPHome> References: <6EA16A541C8E4B51AB2087F2EB9FC09A@JEPHome> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710051959j5805872fu14cb5dac8c4a617d@mail.gmail.com> Ground. From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 5 22:37:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:37:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <380-22007106643741953@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "I was kind of waiting for that story. Do tell." Do you REALLY think anyone will ever hear the REAL story? How naive! Buster From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 6 05:36:57 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 06:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com><440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c807c3$4bef72e0$e3ce58a0$@com> Message-ID: <040c01c8080d$348927a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Ron, it was the wierdest thing. There was no cut, no split, no nothing. The blood was coming from the line where the lip meets the skin and you could not see so much as a pinhole. It flowed like a spring. Like I said, weird. Flounder, in his best effort to be helpful, suggested that, perhaps, a little salt would halt the flow. He's a handy guy to have around. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the handsful of pills the Doc has me on for my various ailments, but I'm going to ask him anyhow. See you at Blackhawk for the looong race. Youse guys have fun with the karts. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Ron Soave'" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation I swear to god... we're sittin' there... they bring our burgers.... Larry takes a bite, and starts bleedin' like Jerry Quarry. We ended up bummin' a bandaid from the waitress, and Larry ate his meal with his lower lip taped up. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:36 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Larry's the only guy I know that could cut his lip > on a hamburger bun. I was kind of waiting for that story. Do tell. Ron Soave "Take it, Dee Dee" - http://youtube.com/watch?v=9BYOulnVXAE From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Oct 6 09:08:32 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:08:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <380-22007106612226765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <046401c8082a$c2f76160$6401a8c0@refisk> I just left Frank and Frankie. The '67 Sprite and all the spares are loaded up and they're on I-75 South heading for New Jersey. And they didn't have a GPS unit! Frankie is good with maps. We met for breakfast and then went to get the car. Lister Tim Collins met us the car owner's house and we helped Frank get everything loaded up. Judging by the condition of the car I would guess that Frank will have this one done in less than two weeks. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Rick Fisk" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation > Rick Fisk wrote: He's still on the road somewhere in Ohio....." > > Yeah, with the emphasis on "somewhere". I just hope Frankie can read a > map > better than Frank. Lordie, I have seen him with a map on a simple road in > England! (I had wondered why Pam wanted to know where my life insurance > policies were.) > > Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Oct 6 09:23:32 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:23:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <040c01c8080d$348927a0$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com><440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c807c3$4bef72e0$e3ce58a0$@com> <040c01c8080d$348927a0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000701c8082c$dccd6290$966827b0$@com> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rc0rkj&s=2 From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 09:33:26 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:33:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <000701c8082c$dccd6290$966827b0$@com> References: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com> <440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c807c3$4bef72e0$e3ce58a0$@com> <040c01c8080d$348927a0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c8082c$dccd6290$966827b0$@com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710060833u3215863du889f41acb55755dc@mail.gmail.com> hmm? http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rc0rix&s=2 On 10/6/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rc0rkj&s=2 > _______________________________________________ > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Oct 6 09:37:25 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:37:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <000701c8082c$dccd6290$966827b0$@com> References: <001201c807c0$53fc2d50$fbf487f0$@com> <440839.70890.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001301c807c3$4bef72e0$e3ce58a0$@com> <040c01c8080d$348927a0$6401a8c0@Larry> <000701c8082c$dccd6290$966827b0$@com> Message-ID: must have been some monster sized raccoons in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" Date: Saturday, October 6, 2007 10:23 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation To: 'Larry Daniels' , 'Ron Soave' , 'Spridgets' > http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=rc0rkj&s=2 > _______________________________________________ > cmanuel at wi.rr.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Oct 6 09:46:47 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:46:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 Message-ID: <68vr7k$1hcck6@email.mtu.edu> Here's a pic of Frank's '67. No raccoons in sight. http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28qww3k&s=2 Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 10:40:34 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:40:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 Message-ID: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net> Tim Collins wrote: "Here's a pic of Frank's '67. No raccoons in sight." Did someone say it would take him as long as a week? Hmmm. OK, he did tell me he wanted to make it a *concours* car, so it may take a little longer if he doesn't use drywall screws. Yes, I said Frank Clarici told me a *concours* car. But promises it won't be a trailer queen, and that I do believe! Buster From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 10:51:17 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:51:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <0a3e01c80781$f6eb23c0$e4c16b40$@com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> <0a3e01c80781$f6eb23c0$e4c16b40$@com> Message-ID: <441250190710060951t733c0642uf87d9528bea1c8c2@mail.gmail.com> Or if you are really worried you can get Chem-Aire, a plastic pipe designed for compressed air applications. http://www.nibco.com/assets/ChmairOvrw.pdf Not cheap, but cheaper than copper, it think. Now we can stick a fork in this thread. On 10/5/07, Patrick Elliott wrote: > > This horse is now dead.. From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Oct 6 15:45:21 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:45:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 References: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> But I fail to understand why he would not start with a Bugeye for a concours car. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Timothy H. Collins" ; Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 > Tim Collins wrote: "Here's a pic of Frank's '67. No raccoons in sight." > > Did someone say it would take him as long as a week? Hmmm. OK, he did > tell me he wanted to make it a *concours* car, so it may take a little > longer if he doesn't use drywall screws. Yes, I said Frank Clarici told > me > a *concours* car. But promises it won't be a trailer queen, and that I do > believe! > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1051 - Release Date: 10/5/2007 > 12:27 PM From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 15:52:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:52:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 In-Reply-To: <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> References: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net> <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <470803B2.3080807@earthlink.net> Jack Laird wrote: "But I fail to understand why he would not start with a Bugeye for a concours car." Because it was a '67 that was the first car he and his first and only love had. For Frank and Diane, it is also a memory to be relived; a memory of the days when the fire was first kindled. As the song tells us, Those were the days, my friend! We thought they'd never end. We'd sing and dance forever and a day. We'd live the life we'd choose. We'd fight and never lose. For we were young and sure to have our way! Di di di di... Buster Evans From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 6 16:38:07 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:38:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] FW: SOS '07 for the uninitiated References: <169912.65461.qm@web42101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <055601c80869$9186d4a0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Breneman" To: Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: SOS '07 for the uninitiated --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > Yes. this message is for the uninitiated. Of course, the initiated > have > already "run the gauntlet", and know what's in store for them. One thing you could explain to the uninitiated is what "SOS" stands for, besides " ... --- ..." and creamed chipped beef on toast. David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com ============================ David, et.al, SOS stands for Save Our Spridgets. This is patterned after a group from the Eastern side of the country who coined their group as O.S.H.I.T., which stands for Official Spridget Handymen In Transit. The deal is that a bunch of Spridget owners get together to help one another with project cars. The SOS group gets together here in Wisconsin every Friday and Saturday after Thanksgiving to help each other with any and all projects that require some attention. I believe the OSHIT group gets together whenever somebody needs some help. There is always plenty to eat and drink and plenty of help for those who need it. Last year a bunch of guys flew and/or drove to Anaheim, CA to help a Spridget lister put his Bugeye together. They started with a bare, but painted, body with not one other piece on it and completely built the car and had it running down the street in 3 days. The owner had run into health problems and could not reassemble the car, so a bunch got together from as far away as New Jersey and New York and built it for him. He had bought the car brand new and he and his wife had their first date in it. So, you can see, it just had to be completed for them. That little adventure was done for a lister who goes by the name of Buster and it was called the Buster Cluster. Sound interesting? Sound like fun? Maybe somebody can start something similar for MGB's. It's great camaraderie and a super way to meet listers with whom you have been emailing back and forth for ages, but have never met. Think about it. I am cross-posting this to the Spridget list. If any of you might want to ask any questions on how to do this, fire away on the Spridget list. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 6 16:45:30 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:45:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 References: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net><002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> <470803B2.3080807@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001501c8086a$9a418580$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Buster, They just ain't old enough to understand. I was talking to 2 of my grand daughters the other day, telling them I'm about ready to get my NuBlue Morris to receive the running gear from OldBlue. I told them I was transferring the glove box doors, too. Che asked why. I said it was because it had all the stickers on it she placed there on a ride from Portland to San Diego. She was surprised it was still there. She said"That's got to be over a decade old!" Yup, it is and I see it everytime I drive that car. Grand Kids grow up way too fast. It's getting moved! Later, Paul A > Jack Laird wrote: "But I fail to understand why he would not start with > a Bugeye for a concours car." > > Because it was a '67 that was the first car he and his first and only > love had. For Frank and Diane, it is also a memory to be relived; a > memory of the days when the fire was first kindled. As the song tells us, > > Those were the days, my friend! > We thought they'd never end. > We'd sing and dance forever and a day. > We'd live the life we'd choose. > We'd fight and never lose. > For we were young and sure to have our way! > Di di di di... > > Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 18:33:00 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:33:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 Message-ID: <380-2200710070330546@earthlink.net> Paul A. wrote: "She said"That's got to be over a decade old!" After saying that, I hope you made her walk!!!! "Grand Kids grow up way too fast." Oh, tell me about it! And to think of how quickly our first-born were so soon out of the house, on their on, married, and then mothers. Soon, some of the kids on here today will learn what it is like when it is their turn to feel a tear in their eye from watching THEIR own once-little ones! And yet, somehow our daughters can't understand when they have grey hair, and walk slowly, perhaps bent in the back, they will forever be *Daddy's little girl!* Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Oct 6 19:27:42 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:27:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs Message-ID: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com> Anyone ever see helper coil springs for < elliptic cars? Ill try to post some pics tomorrow. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Oct 6 20:54:35 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:54:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs References: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com> Message-ID: <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> Yep. My dad had a set on a '55 Packard. The idea was they would improve the handling when he pulled an 18" travel trailer. That was the idea anyhow. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs > Anyone ever see helper coil springs for < elliptic cars? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Oct 6 21:07:44 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:07:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs In-Reply-To: <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: > My dad had a set on a '55 Packard. Didn't it already have the self-leveling torsion bars with the four electric motors under the car? From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Oct 6 21:11:37 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:11:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs References: Message-ID: <04f001c8088f$c64008d0$6401a8c0@refisk> Yes it did. But they couldn't keep up with the tongue weight of an 18' trailer that was designed in 1958. The helper springs didn't really help. He finally installed a Reese Load Leveller setup that did the trick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Rick Fisk" ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs >> My dad had a set on a '55 Packard. > Didn't it already have the self-leveling torsion bars with the four > electric > motors under the car? From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Oct 6 21:39:41 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs References: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com> <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <018e01c80893$b20f48e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Rick: <> Why in the world (even back then) would someone want to two an Eighteen Inch travel trailer?? Enquiring minds NEED to know!?!?!?!? From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Oct 6 21:45:33 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:45:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs References: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com><04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> <018e01c80893$b20f48e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <000e01c80894$83a06c90$6401a8c0@refisk> LOL I'm tired and my fingers don't always cooperate. I meant 18'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "WJHS1960" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs > Rick: > > < the handling when he pulled an 18" travel trailer. >> > > Why in the world (even back then) would someone want to two an Eighteen > Inch > travel trailer?? > > Enquiring minds NEED to know!?!?!?!? From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 05:52:32 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 06:52:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs In-Reply-To: <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com> <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <007801c808d8$8ce9cd70$a6bd6850$@com> Yeah, I've seen helper springs for all sorts of cars...but, 1/4 elliptic Sprites are notorious for being too stiff with the factory leafs. While pulling the rest of the raccoon sh*t laden cars and parts from the chicken coop, we discovered one of the coils. It's smaller than a Spridget front spring, and has a cast aluminum top on it. We almost tossed it. Then, loading one of the stinky cars on the trailer, brother Don noticed a set of these helper springs as we attached tow straps. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:55 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1/4 eliptic helper springs Yep. My dad had a set on a '55 Packard. The idea was they would improve the handling when he pulled an 18" travel trailer. That was the idea anyhow. :-) Rick From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 06:33:36 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:33:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 Food call Message-ID: <007901c808de$49dc5ec0$dd951c40$@com> Hey y'all, If you've attended SOS previously, you know you won't go home hungry. In the past, some folks that couldn't attend sent a variety of foods for the party. Clams, scrapple, brats, Swedish pancakes, cheese curds, homemade beef jerky, pork loin, calamari, etc have been served. So, of you' like to contribute to the culinary efforts, please contact me sooner rather than later so we can figure out the event menu, and the logistics of getting your contribution here. (Since we live in WI, we have the mandatory large chest freezer in the basement for deer and ex-wife carcasses.) Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From abcoz at hky.com Sun Oct 7 06:37:32 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:37:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] radios restoration shop sought Message-ID: <006601c808de$d51a6d60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> In preparation for next year's trip to Lake of the Ozarks, I thought it might be nice to have something to fill the hole in the center console of my '72 Midget. Can anyone recommend a shop/individual who reconditions/restores the OE radios, from BMC/BL? I've got several original AM-FM radios sitting around, a couple of which I'd like to install in my '72 and '73 Midgets. Thanks. Bud Osbourne From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 07:06:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 08:06:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts Message-ID: <007f01c808e2$ddcf2370$996d6a50$@com> Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. Such is the case when you buy up someone's entire inventory of cars & parts. I've got 7 "parts cars" that are going to be picked clean to the bone and sent to the crusher to become Chinese made bench vices at Horrible Freight. There's plenty of good parts on these. Some, I'll keep in order to keep my own spares inventory well stocked. But, some parts I won't need, and would like to see them used. For instance, I'm sure there's one or two of you MG guys that need the side chrome trim pieces. So, if you have any specific needs, speak up, and we'll look over the cadavers and see if we can help you out. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 7 07:38:20 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:38:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 Message-ID: Frank's "new" (or soon to be) '67.... ....where it all began...how very cool. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 7 07:47:57 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 13:47:57 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Curious problem Message-ID: Suggest you check gen. output as well as clean up all appropriate "grounds". The original gen in the BE was no powerhouse. Fr'instance: upgrade to an elect. fuel pump or halogens and it's pretty much done in very few miles. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 08:27:31 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:27:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <0a3e01c80781$f6eb23c0$e4c16b40$@com> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget> <002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> <5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com> <02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget> <7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> <0a3e01c80781$f6eb23c0$e4c16b40$@com> Message-ID: Umm ... by shop I mean hobby shop. Just me a few hours a week, 20 old SAABs, and walls of rusty bits needing sandblasting and paint. Lester Minimal typing only On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:00 PM, "Patrick Elliott" wrote: > And here's where the difference between a commercial shop that uses > allot of > air and a home garage installation really comes into play. > > If you're a decent sized, multi-bay shop running your compressor > throughout > the day, with long runs of air lines, Then Yes, iron pipe will > quickly cool > and help dry your air. Providing you years of blowing power. > > If you plan on doing a bunch of painting and live in a moderately > humid > area, Then Iron is your pipe of Choice! > > With that said, For home garages, shops, palaces of spritely > pleasure, etc > PVC will be easier, cheaper, and provide the same level of service. > Design in a couple of low points with drain valves, Drain the bottom > of your > compressor more then once a year, live in peace.. > > This horse is now dead.. > > Patrick Elliott > www.SyilAmerica.com > 541 297 0004 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of oldsaabguy > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 10:23 AM > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings > > What Peter said.. here is the link from Tip Tools.. it's the way I > plumed my shop as well. > > Lester > > http://www.tptools.com/StaticText/airline-piping-diagram.pdf > > There is sound reasoning on why to use black pipe if you read . From dmg at bossig.com Sun Oct 7 08:46:50 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:46:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts In-Reply-To: <007f01c808e2$ddcf2370$996d6a50$@com> References: <007f01c808e2$ddcf2370$996d6a50$@com> Message-ID: <47088EEA.28806.1550E8@dmg.bossig.com> Any idea as to the approx year of the carcasses?? ;^\ - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Oct 7 08:49:48 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings-PVC radiator or evaporator? References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget><002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com><02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <007a01c808f1$4f389d30$6401a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> My neighbor does street rod construction in his 2000sq foot shop next to his 1700 sq foot house (he has his priorities right which is why I point that out). His entire shop is plumbed in PVC, but what he does have is a manifold or radiator type setup on the wall. It consists of 10 pices of 10' pipe all bolted vertically on the wall and connected to one another on each end so it is like a big accordian or snake. At the bottom of each is a stub and valve. He runs a fan across this during our nice hot humid Oklahoma days and he swears by it. He has no water issues and his paint jobs look great. Maybe this has been covered but thought it a nice economical solution. Charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1868 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Oct 7 08:54:11 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 07:54:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] radios restoration shop sought In-Reply-To: <006601c808de$d51a6d60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> References: <006601c808de$d51a6d60$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <976193406.20071007075411@pacifier.com> Hello Bud, NO experience with these guys, but i've been keeping the link for years, just in case... http://www.soundmove.com/customautosound.htm -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite * "I work at a bank," said Tom tellingly. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Oct 7 09:53:47 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 08:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Umm ... by shop I mean hobby shop. Just me a few hours a week, 20 old > SAABs, and walls of rusty bits needing sandblasting and paint. Pipe is cheap and only takes a couple of hours. All you need is a chopsaw, a vice, your Harbor Freight pipe threading set, and a tube of pipe compound. It's easy. I've always used pipe at home too, where the air is mostly for tires, air shocks, and basketballs. BZ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 10:12:27 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts In-Reply-To: <47088EEA.28806.1550E8@dmg.bossig.com> References: <007f01c808e2$ddcf2370$996d6a50$@com> <47088EEA.28806.1550E8@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000601c808fc$dd0c97f0$9725c7d0$@com> There's a Bugeye, 2 or 3 MKII Sprite/MKI Midgets, 1 or 2 MKIII Sprite/MKII Midgets, and a round arch Midget. -----Original Message----- From: Dave G. [mailto:dmg at bossig.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 9:47 AM To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts Any idea as to the approx year of the carcasses?? ;^\ - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Oct 7 13:50:11 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:50:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0c7c01c8091b$4835c6f0$d8a154d0$@com> And PVC is cheaper, doesn't require a chop saw, a vice, nor a threading set made from the finest Chinese steel. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:54 AM To: oldsaabguy; Patrick Elliott Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings > Umm ... by shop I mean hobby shop. Just me a few hours a week, 20 old > SAABs, and walls of rusty bits needing sandblasting and paint. Pipe is cheap and only takes a couple of hours. All you need is a chopsaw, a vice, your Harbor Freight pipe threading set, and a tube of pipe compound. It's easy. I've always used pipe at home too, where the air is mostly for tires, air shocks, and basketballs. BZ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Oct 7 13:53:27 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:53:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 elliptical In-Reply-To: <007801c808d8$8ce9cd70$a6bd6850$@com> References: <005a01c80881$43cb27d0$cb617770$@com> <04e501c8088d$64f72ab0$6401a8c0@refisk> <007801c808d8$8ce9cd70$a6bd6850$@com> Message-ID: <0c7d01c8091b$bc72b460$35581d20$@com> "but, 1/4 elliptic Sprites are notorious for being too stiff with the factory leafs. " Which reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask, which leaf of my 1/4 elliptical MKII should I pull if I want to soften the ride? Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Oct 7 15:01:50 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:01:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice picture Message-ID: <68vr7k$1hjo4r@email.mtu.edu> . . . of a MG T? taken in Cornwall. See it today at: http://www.cornwallcam.co.uk/ (pictures change tomorrow) Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 7 15:15:18 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure Message-ID: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Well, I finally got the clutch problem somewhat solved, but now I find the new 1275 is running at 90-100 psi in 5th gear at speed. Even when cold, it is over 90 psi at idle. Of course this is shoving lots of oil out of the rear main seal. Gerard built the bottom end and he can not figure out what would cause this kind of over pressure. The block is vented at the blanked off fuel pump boss with a 1/2 inch fitting with a copper 1/2 inch pipe to a rubber hose and a filter to vent to atmosphere. It also seems to be running kinda hot after 20-25 minutes on the freeway, but that may be because it only has 100 miles on the new engine. Couple all the above with a sticking throttle, shudder in the drive line when down shifting and rust starting to peep out of the fender beading, I'm ready to just shove it off a cliff. I've spent a ton of money on this car including the 1275/5 speed conversion and with all these problems I just drove it into the garage and left it. I am totally disheartened with it. Add to all this that I am having some terrible back pain which is making it harder to work on all the time, I don't know how much longer I can keep up with all it is going to take to sort this car out. I don't even know if anyone would want to buy it the way it is. Probably won't be seeing you guys at the 50th. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (POS) 56 BN2 (That I may never finish) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Oct 7 15:40:43 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:40:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <0c7c01c8091b$4835c6f0$d8a154d0$@com> Message-ID: > And PVC is cheaper, doesn't require a chop saw, a vice, nor a threading set > made from the finest Chinese steel. And new Toyotas don't require restoration. From hal at katemuir.com Sun Oct 7 15:53:12 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: Hint, read what it is they are trying to sell you, then click details button and read the fine print. http://tinyurl.com/35fnjx Hal From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:13:24 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:13:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why would you need to have a "rebuilt" transmission checked out by a Japanese transmission expert?? It is obvious, they don't trust their rebuilder....... On 10/7/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Hint, read what it is they are trying to sell you, then click details button > and read the fine print. > http://tinyurl.com/35fnjx > > Hal > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:13:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:13:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710071513t165e510fn23e62a9df29fd656@mail.gmail.com> There is an oil bypass circuit with a spring and ball. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:18:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:18:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> Have a Margarita, but use good Tequila. Or, get Brad to tell you which Tequila to sip at room temp. Take a break. Your problems can all be overcome. You just need to address them one at a time. After all these are gone, more will crop up. But, you can overcome all. First, like I said in the previous (brief) post, there is a mechanism in the oil system to set upper pressure limits. Do a little research and you can whip that one easily enough. Either something is missing or installed incorrectly. That isn't a big deal. After you get the pressure down where you want it, then go for the other issues. I would move on to sticking throttle. Just don't drive after too many Tequila drinks. Cheers, Derf From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 7 16:20:19 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:20:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: "Transmission/Rebuilt" This is a mis-nomer in accordance with the detail content. These are "pre-owned", not "rebuilt". Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:23:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:23:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710071523w7af580fbo32c7ae8c975f859e@mail.gmail.com> I have a .pdf file that has details and pic of the bypass valve. It is about 1 meg in size. Let me know if you want me to send it to you. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 16:24:46 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:24:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710071524o41b7199ds5ef47bf7ed6fa1f6@mail.gmail.com> And they are priced about twice what they are worth. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 7 16:32:11 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:32:11 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 elliptical Message-ID: Pat... "softer" ride: for excellent advice on this, Tom Colby at: www.speedwellengineering.com But before you do, try soaking them down with PB Blaster INCLLUDING the front hinge joints. You'd be quite surprised at the difference this can make in "flexibility/ride" and most especially if you soak them down subsequently with 3in1 oil (spray) or equivalent. I do this every other year, along with the first springtime oil change to heavier weight oil for summer. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Elliott Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2007 3:53 PM To: 'Wm. Severin Thompson', 'Spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] 1/4 elliptical "but, 1/4 elliptic Sprites are notorious for being too stiff with the factory leafs. " Which reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask, which leaf of my 1/4 elliptical MKII should I pull if I want to soften the ride? Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM _______________________________________________ pilotrob at webtv.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 16:35:12 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:35:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004201c80932$54ca54a0$fe5efde0$@com> Regarding the excess oil pressure. I chased a problem with REALLY excessive oil pressure on a race motor. On start up it blew out a solder joint in an oil cooler. It blew out the rubber gasket on an oil filter. The oil pressure relief valve goes horizontally in the block. The strength & length of the spring, along with tolerances between the check valve piston, seat, and the passage way the piston slides in. Upon achieving oil pressure, the relief valve allows oil to drain down to the pan. At a certain point, oil pressure is equalized on either side of the plunger, and a secondary hole allows oil to drain off from the back side of the plunger. In my case, someone had tried to drive out one of the brass plugs the factory puts in the block, and a chunk had wedged out of sight in the drain passageway. So, after the pressure tried to equalize and drain, oil had nowhere to go, and it zoomed over 100psi. In your case, pull the large nut holding the spring & plunger, and inspect. Make sure you can feel the seat in the block. If all is right, either shorten the spring, or purchase an adjustable pressure relief valve from one of the usual suspects. From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 7 16:36:40 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:36:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: You mis-understand, Derf. I am not advising on buying the softer Speedwell 2 leaf racing springs...which ARE expensive. Colby will tell you which leaves to remove from stock springs to make the ride a little softer without removing too many leafs so as to un-necessarily change ride height. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 7 17:03:25 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <004201c80932$54ca54a0$fe5efde0$@com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910710071518v6844854yf4a4bd42252acb95@mail.gmail.com> <004201c80932$54ca54a0$fe5efde0$@com> Message-ID: <13eca359da31cea101da.20071007160325.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I know I should have at least pulled the relief valve for inspection, maybe later. I was just so disgusted with all the problems at once I just garaged it and resigned myself to tackle it later. The adjustable relief valve was also suggested earlier today by a Healey restorer friend. I'll pull it out and look first. Don't know how I will be able to tell if the spring is too strong though. Maybe the cup is stuck in the seat. Mike MacLean Wm. Severin Thompson > Regarding the excess oil pressure. I chased a problem with REALLY > excessive > oil pressure on a race motor. On start up it blew out a solder joint in an > oil cooler. It blew out the rubber gasket on an oil filter. > > The oil pressure relief valve goes horizontally in the block. The strength > & > length of the spring, along with tolerances between the check valve > piston, > seat, and the passage way the piston slides in. > > Upon achieving oil pressure, the relief valve allows oil to drain down to > the pan. At a certain point, oil pressure is equalized on either side of > the > plunger, and a secondary hole allows oil to drain off from the back side > of > the plunger. > > In my case, someone had tried to drive out one of the brass plugs the > factory puts in the block, and a chunk had wedged out of sight in the > drain > passageway. So, after the pressure tried to equalize and drain, oil had > nowhere to go, and it zoomed over 100psi. > > In your case, pull the large nut holding the spring & plunger, and > inspect. > Make sure you can feel the seat in the block. If all is right, either > shorten the spring, or purchase an adjustable pressure relief valve from > one > of the usual suspects. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 7 17:12:21 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:12:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00b201c80937$84632340$6401a8c0@Larry> Sounds like there is a need for a "MacLean Meeting". LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure Well, I finally got the clutch problem somewhat solved, but now I find the new 1275 is running at 90-100 psi in 5th gear at speed. Even when cold, it is over 90 psi at idle. Of course this is shoving lots of oil out of the rear main seal. Gerard built the bottom end and he can not figure out what would cause this kind of over pressure. The block is vented at the blanked off fuel pump boss with a 1/2 inch fitting with a copper 1/2 inch pipe to a rubber hose and a filter to vent to atmosphere. It also seems to be running kinda hot after 20-25 minutes on the freeway, but that may be because it only has 100 miles on the new engine. Couple all the above with a sticking throttle, shudder in the drive line when down shifting and rust starting to peep out of the fender beading, I'm ready to just shove it off a cliff. I've spent a ton of money on this car including the 1275/5 speed conversion and with all these problems I just drove it into the garage and left it. I am totally disheartened with it. Add to all this that I am having some terrible back pain which is making it harder to work on all the time, I don't know how much longer I can keep up with all it is going to take to sort this car out. I don't even know if anyone would want to buy it the way it is. Probably won't be seeing you guys at the 50th. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (POS) 56 BN2 (That I may never finish) _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.3/1054 - Release Date: 10/6/2007 7:12 PM From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 17:49:30 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:49:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? References: Message-ID: <000701c8093c$b6f18b30$6601a8c0@actualshop> Yo Hal!! <> Interesting to say the least!!! So I just sent them below. Answer "should" be interesting, think?? LOL Ed *************************************************************** It says on your page: This is the gearbox that is used when you are upgrading your Sprite or Midget to a 5-speed trans. It is a guarenteed good "pre-owned" gearbox that is from a 1979-1982 Datsun 210. These are not inspected, So WHAT does "guarenteed" mean, please?? Ed From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Oct 7 17:53:47 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:53:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It says "pre-owned...not inspected" I assume they mean that if you want a rebuilt 5-speed in your Spridget...then you can buy your core from them rather than getting your shoes oily in the local yard. The price does seem a little high for a core. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Oct 7 17:59:06 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:59:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: <000701c8093c$b6f18b30$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: Guaranteed to be from a 1979-1982 Datsun 210 ? Maybe you get a refund of it's from a Toyota. > So WHAT does "guarenteed" mean, please?? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 18:01:24 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:01:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 In-Reply-To: <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> References: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net> <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <47097354.9070902@comcast.net> Jack Laird wrote: > But I fail to understand why he would not start with a Bugeye for a concours > car. There are too many concours bugeyes already. No 67s that I know of. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 18:12:04 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:12:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts pricing part 1 Message-ID: <004901c8093f$dd7cc370$98764a50$@com> Hey y'all, I've been giving this some thought. here's what I have in mind. Larry, Dave, and brother Don get first dibs, as they were the ones brave/stupid enough to help snatch some of these cars. Many of you have asked about specific parts, and in many cases, I think we'll have something for you. Some other things, we won't know until they can inspected further. The 4 most recent cars have all been powerwashed once, and are being left out in the rain/weather until SOS just to try to get the stench of raccoon pooh and wiz a little less obvious. Ugggh. I've got a lot of Spridgets. some street cars, and some race cars. I try to collect what I think I'll need during the next 20 or so years of my racing/restoration hobby. because this stuff is becoming unobtanium. But, despite having 6000 sq ft of storage, there is a limit. I've bought enough collections of cars and parts over the years from folks getting out of the hobby, or from widows after some poor slob died to know I don't want to burden the living with all my crap once I'm gone. 2.5 years after moving here, I'm slowly gaining on organizing my shop, and my cars & parts. The rest, I'd rather see go to folks trying to keep these cars on the road, rather than just dump truckloads of parts for scrap metal prices (which actually are pretty good these days). Some stuff will see Ebay, but my preference is these parts go to members of these lists, and more specifically, participants in SOS (whether in person or peripherally). More in part 2. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 18:17:29 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:17:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 In-Reply-To: <68vr7k$1hcck6@email.mtu.edu> References: <68vr7k$1hcck6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <47097719.5090105@comcast.net> It's home and mostly stripped out. It is surprisingly straight and rust free except for the floor pans. New ones will be coming very soon and that's about it for welding. Very little body work is needed on this one so it should be painted in a couple weeks. My only disappointment is that the car came with 2 1098s. No 1275. So if anybody wants a 1098, come get it. 1 is a 10cc the other a 10cg. The 10cg turns over and is out of the car, the one in the car does not move (yet). I also have a few too many dashboards for 65-67 Spridgets if anybody needs one. I took a grinder to a couple of rust spots to find the few small holes were fixed with brazing, the rust was really just a bondo bubble at the two metals. The whole car was sanded down to bare metal and primed some time back so it's going to be a piece of cake to get it down to bare metal so I can do the right thing on the bad spots. (Taco Bell wrappers :) This one will NOT go concours, it has been hit in the rear but professionally repaired and there is a minor issue up front on one of the frame rails. I will not attempt to refix the rear crash because I don't think I can do better than what was done, I will clean it up a touch on the inside of the trunk but it will never be perfect. I was lucky to not have heeps of coon crap but there is spider shit on the car and I found the skeleton in the closet, a dead mouse and his condo in the heater system. He left his deposits under the pedal box. All in all, I think I did OK. I only need to know one thing..... Why do POs insist on taking a pair of dykes to things like oil pressure tubes, temp gauge lines, and wire harnesses? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 18:20:50 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:20:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <47b8ac102ab34ca3a02a.20071007141518.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <470977E2.1040107@comcast.net> Stuck OP relief valve. Or somebody shimmed it out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 7 18:29:21 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:29:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts pricing part 2 Message-ID: <005501c80942$4723f710$d56be530$@com> So, if it turns out amongst these 7 cars that there's something serviceable that you can use, make me an offer. You know what some of these items go for.. sometimes expensive, sometimes a bargain. (Sometimes you have to make six 180 mile round trips and wade through raccoon pooh to get 4 of them, two 150 mile round trips to get 2 of them, and one 200 mile round trip to get the other one). I will not name a price. You make an offer. Your offer will need to be in addition to whatever costs are involved in shipping it to you if necessary. If you're here, you'll save on shipping. A small portion of what you pay will go toward funding SOS, and the majority will be donated to the Fond du Lac Humane Society. We just lost one of our 5 shelter rescued dogs. Hannah. I had her 14 years. The pack is holding steady at 4 now, although Louie is older than dirt. So, buy some parts, and help support homeless animals (and reduce the amount of crap my heirs will have to deal with when I take a dirt nap). Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 18:30:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:30:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <380-22007106612226765@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007106612226765@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47097A3D.5070307@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Rick Fisk wrote: He's still on the road somewhere in Ohio....." > > Yeah, with the emphasis on "somewhere". I just hope Frankie can read a map > better than Frank. Lordie, I have seen him with a map on a simple road in > England! (I had wondered why Pam wanted to know where my life insurance > policies were.) Wait just a minute there Buster. Who was reading the maps in England? I recall doing all the driving. I guess the email from Frankie and his laptop never made the list. He did email our progress from the truck. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwramsey at att.net Sun Oct 7 18:42:07 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:42:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: <100820070042.24961.47097CDF0006BEAF000061812161243646970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> The 5-speeds they are selling are straight from pick-n-pulls around Calif. Back in the days when I was pulling them I would run into their guys. I once beat them to three in Oakland, were they pissed. I've got a few left and will hold on to them till I can get $1500 each. Crash > Why would you need to have a "rebuilt" transmission checked out by a > Japanese transmission expert?? > It is obvious, they don't trust their rebuilder....... > > On 10/7/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: > > Hint, read what it is they are trying to sell you, then click details button > > and read the fine print. > > http://tinyurl.com/35fnjx > > > > Hal From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Oct 7 19:00:42 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 parts is parts pricing part 1 In-Reply-To: <004901c8093f$dd7cc370$98764a50$@com> Message-ID: <310161.276.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > I try to > collect what I think I'll need during the next 20 or > so years of my > racing/restoration hobby. As my good friend Ron Downs says, "I have more projects left than I do haircuts." Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 18:33:32 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:33:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: <380-22007101803332250@earthlink.net> Hint, read what it is they are trying to sell you, then click details button and read the fine print. http://tinyurl.com/35fnjx Now, doggone, but down here in Bald Knob, we just don't understand all that fancy California doubletalk and words. Words like "REBUILT" and "guarenteed" and "pre-owned". And sayin' their "not inspected". You see, down here, if we are gonna barter for something has been "rebuilt", why it's just gotta be "pre-owned". Unless it fell from God in Heaven above. I guess that's something like what we call "used". Probably lawyer-talk. And I guess we are still trying to figure out about it being "not inspected". What's puzzling us is how can some fool can rebuild a transmission and "not inspect" the dang thing. Is this some job they train for at the blind school? Finally, I guess we are just too far out in the Piney woods to have caught up with some of those California legal words. Like "guarenteed". You see, we still spell "guaranteed". Like we have always done since the olden days. Well, dang nab it, I guess what the city slicker is trying to say that he wants to sell me a used gearbox that he guarantees hasn't been looked at by nobody, and just probably is a piece of junk we can use as a anchor we go juggin' for catfish or giggin' us some frogs at giggin' frogs at night. Unless, of course, he can talk us into buying all the parts to rebuilt it ourselves. With whom does this overweening, supercilious dolt presume he is negotiating to acquire his offal and dross? Silas P. Gumbody Bumpkin-in-Chief Bald Knob, Arkasas From lists at woozy.com Sun Oct 7 19:32:52 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] One step forward & two steps back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470988C4.6040602@woozy.com> After some serious procrastinating I finally got around to installing the new speed bleeders and finally got the brakes bled properly. Since that went so smoothly I figured I'd drained the diff and put in fresh oil. When I was laying down there wrapping things up on the diff I noticed a damp spot on the bottom of the gas tank. I thought that was odd and wiped the spot with a rag. As soon as I did that two two pinhole leaks sprang up on the bottom of the gas tank. I wasn't expecting that one. I got a container to catch the gas and siphoned what I could out of the tank. Is there any fix for this other than a new gas tank? I'm figuring that there isn't but it never hurts to ask. I have a non-leaking (for the moment) gas tank on my parts car but that tank is older than this one so it's probably a false economy to try to move that one over. Has anyone replaced a gas tank lately? It looks pretty straight forward but if there are any unexpected gotchas I'd appreciate knowing. Thanks in advance, Robert From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 19:01:26 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:01:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <380-2200710181126265@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "Who was reading the maps in England? I recall doing all the driving. Yeah, Frank, and who wouldn't LISTEN to me? Who insisted that he liked a stretch of road so much that that he kept making U-turns and going back and forth on stretches of road. Do I have to bring Diane into this?\ Just be grateful that I refuse and swear NEVER to spill the beans to ANYONE about your right-hand turns into the nearest lane out of parking lots or at T-junctions. Or what that means in England! Or how I was cowering for fear of my life on the floorboards of the back seat. Not me. I keep those kinds of things to myself, for I am an honorable man! Buster From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 19:38:39 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:38:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One step forward & two steps back In-Reply-To: <470988C4.6040602@woozy.com> References: <470988C4.6040602@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710071838u2c37300o9abb2ac8bb3851e6@mail.gmail.com> New tank. It isn't a hard thing to change. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 19:47:36 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:47:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1098s cheap Message-ID: <47098C38.40505@comcast.net> I have 3 of these anchors now, anybody want one or 2? 10CC & 10CG 2 of the 3 turn over, one runs (or did when I pulled it 2 years ago) Cheap, trade? no shipping. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lists at woozy.com Sun Oct 7 19:52:16 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:52:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's 67 In-Reply-To: <47097354.9070902@comcast.net> References: <380-220071066164034281@earthlink.net> <002201c80862$31aa9820$1da1bf46@personal> <47097354.9070902@comcast.net> Message-ID: <47098D50.1040307@woozy.com> FWIW - My first Spridget was a '67 Sprite and they are still my personal favorite. I'd take a '67 over a Bugeye or a RWA any day. Robert Frank Clarici wrote: > Jack Laird wrote: > >> But I fail to understand why he would not start with a Bugeye for a concours >> car. >> > > There are too many concours bugeyes already. > No 67s that I know of. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Oct 7 20:10:05 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <380-2200710181126265@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <814169.67300.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > at T-junctions. Or what that means in England! Or > how I was cowering for fear of my life on the > floorboards of the back seat. > Not me. I keep those kinds of things to myself, for > I am an honorable man! Didn't you do a little driving at first, right up until your first REM cycle? Psylous P. Nobody Hinsdale, IL ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 20:28:57 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:28:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <814169.67300.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011301c80952$fb002c80$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Don't drag MY butt into this 'Hopper!!!! He]], for ONCE I AM innocent!!!! I'm gonna call Jessie Jackson on ya!!!! From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sun Oct 7 20:43:41 2007 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:43:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: Oil Over Pressure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6A1F877E-9870-4D59-BBAE-E23C60EF55B4@gerardsgarage.com> Mike, How did my very first suggestion when you called me, that you check the pressure relief valve, turn into "I can't figure it out"? Seems all the suggestions I'm seeing are here are one and the same... check the pressure relief valve first. You also didn't mention that this problem did not exist initially, but has showed up recently. Even when you had the car here last summer, it did not leak any oil. I know because it sat in my garage for a week. You should mention that the car has been parked for more than two years due to your troubles with the drive shaft in connection with the 5 speed install and then the problems with your master cylinder, which you only just installed. Gerard On Oct 7, 2007, at 5:33 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:03:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Over Pressure > To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Message-ID: > <13eca359da31cea101da.20071007160325.eeratvarre at www.dslextreme.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > I know I should have at least pulled the relief valve for inspection, > maybe later. I was just so disgusted with all the problems at once > I just > garaged it and resigned myself to tackle it later. The adjustable > relief > valve was also suggested earlier today by a Healey restorer > friend. I'll > pull it out and look first. Don't know how I will be able to tell > if the > spring is too strong though. Maybe the cup is stuck in the seat. > Mike MacLean From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 20:27:44 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:27:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation Message-ID: <380-22007101822744156@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "Didn't you do a little driving at first, right up until your first REM cycle?" You bet I did! Many over their appreciate my Road Engineering Management expertise. You see, the British Government and I have a arrangement whereby since I know the roads so well, and I can drive them with my eyes closed, I will do just that in order to make a valued determination of the straightness of their lane markings, as well as the points where it is necessary to widen their highways. Simple as that. At the same time, you see, before we left, Frank swore upon Horler that he would NEVER drive in England, because it was on the wrong side of the road. Unfortunately, Frank, totally unaware of the manner of driving on the opposite side of the road in the U.K., was cowardly hiding beneath the dash. Determined that I had to in someway induce him into making a brave attempt at driving, thereby proving to the World. Fortunately, my Road Engineering Management efforts came into play at the same time and awakened him to BEG me for the opportunity to prove himself worthy of assuming the mantle of Stirling Moss. I do hope that that full and truthful account proves of assistance. Of this I swear. Buste From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Oct 7 21:45:31 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:45:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation References: <814169.67300.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <011301c80952$fb002c80$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <007301c8095d$ad9ec090$0301a8c0@midget> > <> > Don't drag MY butt into this 'Hopper!!!! He]], for ONCE I AM innocent!!!! > I'm gonna call Jessie Jackson on ya!!!! Innocent only for lack of opportunity, I am sure ;-) Like the rest of us... From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Oct 7 22:35:20 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:35:20 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1098s cheap In-Reply-To: <47098C38.40505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <585385.19680.qm@web50608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Can the 10CC crank be used to stroke a 1275? AW Frank Clarici wrote: I have 3 of these anchors now, anybody want one or 2? 10CC & 10CG 2 of the 3 turn over, one runs (or did when I pulled it 2 years ago) Cheap, trade? no shipping. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 7 23:04:06 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gerard and High Message-ID: <660a1128aff0a528a.20071007220406.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 7 23:05:08 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gerard and High Oil Pressure Message-ID: From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 7 23:17:10 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gerard and High Oil Pressure Message-ID: <2d28a7986a70e4a2486a.20071007221710.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Disclaimer Please excuse me for slipping twice, but here is the message I wanted to send. In my first email about the high oil pressure I said Gerard did not know what was causing the high oil pressure in the block that he built. I omitted some important facts. During a phone conversation today during the high oil pressure crisis Gerard's first recommendation was to check the relief valve assembly. I also failed to mention the car has sat for almost a year due to drive train (drive shaft) problems and clutch problems. Also, the car was test run at Gerard's house in San Francisco with no oil leaks or over pressure. Maybe the engine is not vented enough (only one vent on the side of the block) and maybe since the rings have just seated there is substantially more pressure in the block forcing out the oil. Did not want to give anyone the impression Gerard did not know anything. The car ran in an acceptable manner (except for the clutch) while he was helping me install the running gear. Gerard has always been "spot on" whenever I have called him with a problem. From pelliott at innercite.com Sun Oct 7 23:19:33 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:19:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: <100820070042.24961.47097CDF0006BEAF000061812161243646970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> References: <100820070042.24961.47097CDF0006BEAF000061812161243646970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <0cee01c8096a$cfe39100$6faab300$@com> $1500? Wow, I'm glad I bought that one from you when I did,. Even though I just installed it last weekend.. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 18:23:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:23:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The BusterCluster Message-ID: <3813-22007100702325953@earthlink.net> David... Last year a bunch of guys flew and/or drove to Anaheim, CA to help a Spridget lister put his Bugeye together. They started with a bare, but painted, body with not one other piece on it and completely built the car and had it running down the street in 3 days. The owner had run into health problems and could not reassemble the car, so a bunch got together from as far away as New Jersey and New York and built it for him. He had bought the car brand new and he and his wife had their first date in it. So, you can see, it just had to be completed for them. That little adventure was done for a lister who goes by the name of Buster and it was called the BusterCluster. Larry could barely scratch the surface of the BusterCluster, but as the beneficiary of it all, I would like to give you the full flavor of what went on, and at the same time salute the "Magnificent 23" that an international magazine has now dubbed "The A-Team". The summary below, and perhaps a few links will guide you through this truly mystical, magical three days that I believe marked highpoint in the camaraderie of Sprites and Midgets, if not all sports cars, and which is being chronicled in the October issue of Practical Classics. (Many Americans are unaware of this English magazine devoted to the preservation and use our classic English cars such as ours, and sold in this country by Barnes and Noble, Borders, and many large news and magazine agents.) Perhaps you can post it to the MG List so they might go even further for someone in their midst. Buster Evans BusterCluster 2006 When as a young sailor, I bought my Sprite from the new car import dealer in Memphis, little did I know that it would be with me for some 46 years. That Sprite changed my life, allowing me to make friends with the civilian world in Memphis; friends that remain close to this day. While still in the Navy, I rallied it, auto-crossed it, and gymkhana'd it, while also driving it to my Southern California home on Christmas leave. When I was discharged in 1963, I took my $300 and a Texaco credit card to drive some 4,000 miles around America before settling down. After carrying me to university, then serving as a "family car", the Sprite was in poor repair. Several years ago, I fully intended on restoring it, and had stripped it down completely before back surgery left me unable stand very long, or to even bend over to pick up something from the floor. Every time I looked at the poor Sprite, I was filled with guilt. Although I could not drive it, I have been active in Internet Sprite/Midget groups. Everything began to change when Ron Soave came out from Illinois on business in December 2005. When he saw the pitiful state my Sprite was in, he told me, "Oh, this is a perfect OSHIT project!" Pardon me? He explained that OSHIT is the Organization of Sprite Handimen In Transit, and that it was a very loose knit group of Sprite/Midget owners, mainly in the American Midwest and East Coast, who would get together periodically to work on the cars, and on a few occasions had taken on a major project to help someone out. ( http://www.valentinephoto.net/oshit/index.html ) Ron then began to spread the word among America's Sprite/Midget owners, while I arranged to have the car painted and then went over to England to buy the necessary parts (I have long advocated that people buy their parts in England where they are less expensive and of a far superior quality.) For several months, people on the Internet were making plans. One who enjoys making beer is brewed up two kegs of Porter for the event. Another who is a meteorologist for the U.S. Weather Service had been making up weather forecasts. Some were busy getting a live Web camera and Internet chat room for the two days. BusterCluster coffee cups and t-shirts designed and provided to those who did so much. When the day came, 23 people had shown up from California, Oregon, Arizona, New Mexico, Kansas, Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, New Jersey, and Connecticut! All of them paid their own way, paid for their own hotels, and only eight stayed with us. The extended weekend of July 27 was a non-stop dream for Pam and myself. We had brought in lots of foot, but still had to go out for more pizza and Subs! Pam did an incredibly fantastic job of fixing breakfasts, getting the lunches and dinner food laid out and ready for everyone to dig in. On the liquid side, we went through 179 bottles of beer, two kegs of brew brought down the brewmeister, two cases of water, and 174 Pepsis/Cokes/7-Up, and about two dozen big bags of ice. It was amazing the thousands upon thousands of miles that people flew and drove from all over the United States to join us: It is hard to think that most of the people who came here had never met most, if any, of the others. Certainly, I had never met anyone before Ron came out in December and came up with the BusterCluster idea! Even after that, I had only met one other for the first time when Pam and I went back to Illinois for some races in June. All of the rest of these friends I had never met face to face until the event! That, if nothing else, has brought a wonderful smile to our faces! On the Internet http://www.bustercluster2006.org/ http://bustercluster.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs1klEzra24 http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bustercluster2006/album?.dir=184cscd&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bustercluster2006/my_photos From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 4 18:55:49 2007 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:55:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <173e0a3e8c8a3a1b0a4be10a.20071004102850.eeratvarre@www.dsl extreme.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20071004204904.01ad6ea8@mail.bellsouth.net> Below is a copy of a tech tip I wrote for the MGVR Newsletter that describes my solution for the problem on a stock unit. Although I don't know the details on the 5-speed, I would guess this ides would work just like it does on the stock application. I have digital photos that go with the article that I will send to anyone who asks off-list. MODIFY THE CLUTCH SLAVE CYLINDER FOR EASIER INSTALLATION AND REMOVAL By Bob Spruck MotorMouth/south Those of us who do most of the work on our race cars ourselves, have gotten used to the fact that we have to pull the engine fairly frequently. Maybe once a year, hopefully not more. (If you have to remove the engine that often, perhaps you shouldn't be working on your race car yourself!) Anyway, I've got it down to a science, especially after sixteen years racing the same 1967 Midget and having a 1972 street/show Midget to work on as well, not to mention all my friends with Bugeyes and Spridgets who invite me to work on their cars, too. Ive done a number of modifications to make engine removal and reinstallation quick, easy, safe, and relatively painless. Ive slotted the engine mounting brackets, pinned the intake manifold, welded nuts on the radiator brackets so I dont have to fiddle with inaccessible hardware, done the same with the starter bolts, cut an access hole in the floor pan so I can insert the spline on the front of the drive shaft into the transmission, and made a permanent ground strap on the rear transmission mounting bracket, just to name a few. One of the tasks that I dont look forward to in the otherwise simple and quick engine removal/installation routine is removing and installing the clutch slave cylinder. The cotter pin, clevis, and clevis pin that attach the cylinder to the throw out bearing arm are easy to get to. I even replaced the cotter pin with a hairpin to make things easier. Its those two darn bolts that attach the slave cylinder to the transmission housing that are the problem. Actually, its really only the top one, as the bottom one is easy to get to from underneath the car. The top bolt is extremely close to the frame rail. You cant get a socket and ratchet on it. You can get to it with an open-end or box end wrench but you can only turn it a flat or two at a time. There is an opening in the passenger foot well that is designed to allow access to that one bolt. Trouble is, my passenger foot well is filled with the Accusump and the fire system and all their plumbing. So, that access hole is no longer accessible. That means that the slave cylinder has to be removed from underneath the car. Those two bolts are rather hefty, because of the force exerted on the clutch by hydraulic pressure. One trick I had used for many years was to use a shorter upper bolt so that I didnt have to turn it in or out so much. This made the task a little easier, but it was still a pain. I eventually found what I hope is the best solution. I cut off the hex head of the bolt, making it into a very large pin. I ground the end smooth, applied Locktite, and screwed the bolt into the transmission case so only the smooth shoulder is exposed. The upper ear on the slave cylinder slides over the pin and the more accessible lower bolt goes through the lower ear in the normal fashion and holds the cylinder against the case. The motion imparted by the hydraulic system is fore and aft. When the piston in the cylinder moves the pin, the pin moves the arm, and the arm moves the throw out bearing against the pressure plate. The shoulder on the upper headless bolt and the normal lower bolt prevent fore and aft movement of the cylinder body relative to the transmission case. The head on the bottom bolt holds the cylinder against the case. All is well. Now only the easily accessible lower bolt needs to be unscrewed in order to remove the slave cylinder. The headless upper bolt stays in place on the transmission case. To replace the cylinder all you have to do is just position it on the upper pin and screw in the lower bolt. At 10:28 AM 10/4/2007 -0700, you wrote: >Anybody had to replace the slave cylinder on Paul's 5 speed conversion >with the engine and trans in the car? I have a leak in this area of my >Bugeye of fresh brake fluid. It may or may not be the slave cylinder. >Might just be the line going in or the bleed extension I installed to aid >bleeding. If it is the slave cylinder it looks like the upper 9/16ths >bolt holding the slave is very close to the frame rail. Anyone done this? >Mike MacLean >60 Sprite >56 BN2 >_______________________________________________ >mgmaven at bellsouth.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.1/1050 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 >5:03 PM Bob Spruck MGMaven Sharpsburg, GA 67 Midget Vintage Racer 72 Midget Street and Show 6 parts/project cars From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 00:58:38 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wm Severin Thompson's Operation In-Reply-To: <380-22007101822744156@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007101822744156@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710072358h382097damd46bb2d89a500079@mail.gmail.com> Cheez!! What a buncha wussies!! The only hard thing about driving in England is reversing out of a parking slot in a LHD car and ending up in the proper lane! Otherwise, it's duck soup! I can shift equally well with my left hand! Moreover, for 2 years I drove my new LHD Fiat 850 Coupe all over Britain with nary a dent or prang! Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/7/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Ron Soave wrote: "Didn't you do a little driving at first, right up until > your first REM cycle?" > > You bet I did! Many over their appreciate my Road Engineering Management > expertise. You see, the British Government and I have a arrangement > whereby since I know the roads so well, and I can drive them with my eyes > closed, I will do just that in order to make a valued determination of the > straightness of their lane markings, as well as the points where it is > necessary to widen their highways. Simple as that. > > At the same time, you see, before we left, Frank swore upon Horler that he > would NEVER drive in England, because it was on the wrong side of the road. > > Unfortunately, Frank, totally unaware of the manner of driving on the > opposite side of the road in the U.K., was cowardly hiding beneath the > dash. Determined that I had to in someway induce him into making a brave > attempt at driving, thereby proving to the World. Fortunately, my Road > Engineering Management efforts came into play at the same time and awakened > him to BEG me for the opportunity to prove himself worthy of assuming the > mantle of Stirling Moss. > > I do hope that that full and truthful account proves of assistance. Of > this I swear. > > Buste From lists at woozy.com Mon Oct 8 08:09:09 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:09:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710072358h382097damd46bb2d89a500079@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22007101822744156@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0710072358h382097damd46bb2d89a500079@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <470A3A05.7000707@woozy.com> Thanks to everyone who answered my leaking gas tank question. I noticed something else when I was working on the brakes yesterday. On the driver's side front axle the swivel axle has a bit of slop up and down on the kingpin. It's maybe 1/32 - 1/16 of travel. I pulled the cotter pin from the castled nut at the top of the kingpin to see if I could adjust it tighter but the nut just turns without tightening which leads me to believe that it or the kingpin is stripped. I put the cotter pin back in and figured I'd leave well enough alone for now. My question is, is this at all dangerous? I checked for any up and down play on the passenger's side and there is none but I did notice that there was another nut on top of the castled nut, so maybe the nut or kingpin is stripped on that side too. We've been hit with a lot of unexpected bills & expenses lately and my wife has informed me that the MG expenditures need to be cut back substantially for a while. Translation: "we really tight". So I just want to make sure it's safe to drive like this. I'm not looking to replace any of this for a good long while if I can avoid it. Thanks, Robert From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 09:28:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:28:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question In-Reply-To: <470A3A05.7000707@woozy.com> References: <380-22007101822744156@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0710072358h382097damd46bb2d89a500079@mail.gmail.com> <470A3A05.7000707@woozy.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710080828j70c6d145yad8721c4bd427bc@mail.gmail.com> Maybe put a 1/16" washer under the nut for now? You'd better check your lower fulcrum pins soon. If the kingpins are worn, the fulcrum pins are probably shot, too. I wouldn't hesitate to drive it with a little play but I would realize that it is worn and shouldn't be pushed to the limit. Try a washer under the nut, grease it really well, and plan to fix it in the near future. Meanwhile, drive it like you stole it, but don't overdo it. I don't think there is any danger of catastrophic failure and/or extremely hazardous situations, but wait and see what other listers have to say about it. If I am wrong (me? no.) I wouldn't want you driving around with a dangerous car. Cheers, Derf From hal at katemuir.com Mon Oct 8 10:06:06 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710080828j70c6d145yad8721c4bd427bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Robert, The play in the upper trunion is adjusted by means of shims. PPP can provide and also knows how to adjust this. They are not expensive, very inexpensive in fact. Play anywhere in the front end will make the car a bit less inclined to go exactly where you want it to go. Tire wear will increase somewhat. Just don't go racing 'till you're certain it's 100%. Hal From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 13:34:25 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut Message-ID: No, I am not referring to myself after the high oil pressure fiasco this past weekend. What I am referring to is the nut for the pressure relief valve. Does anyone know what size it is? The largest wrench I have is 24 mm. I have the distributor out, the oil gauge line off and the number 4 spark plug wire removed to have room to swing a wrench be cause the aluminum back plate sticks out far enough beyond the nut and it is close enough to the backplate that I cannot get a socket on the nut. If I can get it off I am going over to APT (5 min from my house) and compare springs with a new and old spring and inspect the cup. Maybe buy all new oil pressure relief parts. So, give me an excuse to go buy a new wrench. What size is it? Mike MacLean 60 Bugeye (problem child) 56 BN2 (the never ending project) From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 13:38:58 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> I would phone APT. DA could probably answer that one in his sleep, if he is in town. If not, I'm sure someone there knows. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 13:42:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710081242v325d6e67j62a48ca58246d81f@mail.gmail.com> A quick google shows it to be a 1" (25.4mm) and the free lenght of the spring should be 2.86". Cheers, Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 13:54:01 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: David is out of town (England), Phil is there. Phil is very knowledgeable, but he is not sure of the size. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 derf > I would phone APT. DA could probably answer that one in his sleep, if > he is in town. If not, I'm sure someone there knows. > Cheers, > Derf From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 8 14:08:13 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut Message-ID: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> If you installed the adjustable oil pressure kit with the looong threaded bolt and locknut, you will find it needs to be backed all the way out till you don't feel any spring pressure and then advanced a few turns against the spring. Test and adjust, repeat. Glen Byrns From lists at woozy.com Mon Oct 8 14:17:42 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:17:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut In-Reply-To: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> References: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <470A9066.3020701@woozy.com> Where would one find one of these adjustable oil pressure kits? I've never heard of such a beast until yesterday when someone mentioned it in an email. Thanks Robert Glen Byrns wrote: > If you installed the adjustable oil pressure kit with the looong threaded > bolt and locknut, you will find it needs to be backed all the way out > till you don't feel any spring pressure and then advanced a few turns > against the spring. Test and adjust, repeat. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 14:17:50 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut In-Reply-To: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> References: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Glen, I have just the standard domed nut, fiber washer, spring and cup. I was also told by someone at APT that the standard adjustable relief pressure kits do not fit the inline A series motor. Usually the nut is to large and has to be cut off and the threaded rod slotted instead. Just want to check out the spring and cup first, so I need to get the nut off. Having a problem with it's proximity to the aluminum backplate. Have to search my tools for a 1" thin wall socket or go buy one. Mike MacLean Glen Byrns > If you installed the adjustable oil pressure kit with the looong threaded > bolt and locknut, you will find it needs to be backed all the way out > till you don't feel any spring pressure and then advanced a few turns > against the spring. Test and adjust, repeat. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 14:24:43 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut In-Reply-To: <470A9066.3020701@woozy.com> References: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> <470A9066.3020701@woozy.com> Message-ID: <11220a2e1b8a2ad50a258a8a.20071008132443.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I would not suggest MiniMania (costly), but here is ther page with adjustable relief kits to give you an idea. There are probably many more styles out there. http://tinyurl.com/2ajfg3 Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Weeks > Where would one find one of these adjustable oil pressure kits? I've > never heard of such a beast until yesterday when someone mentioned it in > an email. > > Thanks > > Robert From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 8 15:23:33 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:23:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut References: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <005901c809f1$7cc961c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> It's one inch. Sometimes there's a restriction and you might need a thin wall socket or grind down a cheap socket to make a thin wall!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut > David is out of town (England), Phil is there. Phil is very > knowledgeable, but he is not sure of the size. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > derf > > I would phone APT. DA could probably answer that one in his sleep, if > > he is in town. If not, I'm sure someone there knows. > > Cheers, > > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 15:26:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut In-Reply-To: References: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710081426n46d2decfxad97e752dc8838cb@mail.gmail.com> You can get something from Horrible Frait if you get desperate. They have Crow's Foot sets, too. The "Pittsburgh Professional" (LOL, I know) stuff is equal to or better than Crapsmans IMHO. I also have luck at pawn shops. If I need something special that requires grinding a socket or something I will pick up something decent at a pawn shop and grind away. At the risk of sounding strait out tha traila, you can't get a Crescent wrench on it? Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 15:28:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:28:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut In-Reply-To: <005901c809f1$7cc961c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> <005901c809f1$7cc961c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710081428h2c37c110ve98583075b1a99aa@mail.gmail.com> Great minds run along the same gutters, eh? That's kinda what I said. From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Oct 8 15:31:57 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:31:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/7/2007 6:34:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Sounds like there is a need for a "MacLean Meeting". LAD Cool, another LA meeting...... Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 15:36:36 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut In-Reply-To: <005901c809f1$7cc961c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <5f00d9910710081238w6ebe16a3p1d4e50c01384b27@mail.gmail.com> <005901c809f1$7cc961c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <15840a39e70a35ca0a2f250a.20071008143636.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> That is exactly what I am finding out. Thanks Paul. Mike Paul Asgeirsson > It's one inch. > > Sometimes there's a restriction and you might need a thin wall socket or > grind down a cheap socket to make a thin wall!! > > Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "derf" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:54 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil Pressure Relief Nut > > >> David is out of town (England), Phil is there. Phil is very >> knowledgeable, but he is not sure of the size. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> >> >> derf >> > I would phone APT. DA could probably answer that one in his sleep, if >> > he is in town. If not, I'm sure someone there knows. >> > Cheers, >> > Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 15:38:57 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil pressure relief nut In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710081426n46d2decfxad97e752dc8838cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <200710082008.l98K8CbU021354@celerio.ucdavis.edu> <5f00d9910710081426n46d2decfxad97e752dc8838cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <23f58a60c5aa59e5ca4ecaea.20071008143857.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Probably will find a thin walled socket or find a 1 inch socket to grind for this. The flats on the nut are positioned just right so I don't have any room to swing the Crescent wrench, at least the size Crescent wrench I have that fits. Mike derf > You can get something from Horrible Frait if you get desperate. They > have Crow's Foot sets, too. The "Pittsburgh Professional" (LOL, I > know) stuff is equal to or better than Crapsmans IMHO. I also have > luck at pawn shops. If I need something special that requires > grinding a socket or something I will pick up something decent at a > pawn shop and grind away. > At the risk of sounding strait out tha traila, you can't get a > Crescent wrench on it? > Cheers, > Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 15:44:37 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1b070a48bc4a43918a3b38ca.20071008144437.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Anyone is welcome to come out anytime they would like, but I was just kinda depressed with all the mounting projects to do to the car before the anniversary coupled with the engine all of a sudden puking oil the same time the clutch went out. The clutch was my fault. I did not tighten the lock nut on the adjustable slave pushrod, so everytime I pushed on the pedal the adjustment would back off. Cute, huh? Working on the high oil pressure now. Just having a bugger of a time getting the domed nut off the relief valve. Mike RampantNM at aol.com > In a message dated 10/7/2007 6:34:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Sounds like there is a need for a "MacLean Meeting". > > LAD > > > > Cool, another LA meeting...... > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > 63 TR4 > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and > for > several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 8 15:45:40 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:45:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071008164435.03700cc0@nosimport.com> At 04:31 PM 10/8/2007, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/7/2007 6:34:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, >spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > >Sounds like there is a need for a "MacLean Meeting". > >LAD > > > >Cool, another LA meeting...... > >Regards, > >Robert B. Houston === Maybe Mike can take a tour of the US in his train, and pick us all up! That'd be cooler Peter C From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 8 15:58:12 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:58:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Money Talks and Fairness Walks Message-ID: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> Bad weekend at the races. Oly only lasted 3/4 of the 1st practice lap. He came into turn 8 a little hot, locked up the brakes and went off the track between cones. He hit nothing. The next car through was on the line and was not close to Oly. The next car through came into turn 8 a little hot and was on his way off the track when he hit Oly in the rear. Damage was light except a rare Volvo mag was destroyed. The Bird Cage Maserati that hit him put a dent in an aluminum panel. Both cars returned to the hot pits. The other driver was spoken to for about a minute then left. One of his people then came and drove the Bird Cage away. Oly was interrogated for about 15 minutes then allowed to leave. The verdict from Steve Earle was "If Oly had not been there he would not have got hit" so therefore it was his fault. Oly was kicked out of the race and the other driver was allowed to race the rest of the weekend. The driver of the Bird Cage was Rob Walton. He enters three to five cars in all of the General Racing (Steve Earle) including the Monterey historics. Earle was not about to kick him out of anything. The verdict should have been for both drivers to take it easy. If you don't know who Rob Walton is, think Wal-Mart. Net worth $18 billion. Larry Miller (still pissed) From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Oct 8 16:03:40 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:03:40 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/8/2007 3:39:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: So, give me an excuse to go buy a new wrench. What size is it? I think you'll need a whole set Mike....at least that's what I tell my wife. Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 8 16:17:33 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:17:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse Message-ID: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> OK, I won't ask any more questions about pipes... But I will ask about filters and regulators and lubricators in a multi-drop scenario. Obviously, I do not want a lubricator between the compressor and the pipes. I am looking at 3 or 4 drops along the 22' side wall of my garage. Since it is a big compressor, there is no built-in regulator. I am imagining a desire for a regulator between compressor and pipe, then a small filter/regulator on each drop with a lubricator on a couple of the drops. Yes? No? David Lieb From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 16:33:20 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:33:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money Talks and Fairness Walks In-Reply-To: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> References: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710081533y39b68459wd0adea246d6524ac@mail.gmail.com> didnt i read some "faction" like this in a Levy tome? On 10/8/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > Bad weekend at the races. Oly only lasted 3/4 of the 1st practice lap. He > came into turn 8 a little hot, locked up the brakes and went off the track > between cones. He hit nothing. The next car through was on the line and > was > not close to Oly. The next car through came into turn 8 a little hot and > was > on his way off the track when he hit Oly in the rear. Damage was light > except a rare Volvo mag was destroyed. The Bird Cage Maserati that hit him > put a dent in an aluminum panel. Both cars returned to the hot pits. The > other driver was spoken to for about a minute then left. One of his people > then came and drove the Bird Cage away. > > Oly was interrogated for about 15 minutes then allowed to leave. > > The verdict from Steve Earle was "If Oly had not been there he would not > have got hit" so therefore it was his fault. Oly was kicked out of the > race > and the other driver was allowed to race the rest of the weekend. > > The driver of the Bird Cage was Rob Walton. He enters three to five cars > in > all of the General Racing (Steve Earle) including the Monterey historics. > Earle was not about to kick him out of anything. > > The verdict should have been for both drivers to take it easy. > > If you don't know who Rob Walton is, think Wal-Mart. Net worth $18 > billion. > > Larry Miller (still pissed) > _______________________________________________ > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 16:37:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:37:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Money Talks and Fairness Walks In-Reply-To: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> References: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <470AB10F.6080102@comcast.net> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > If you don't know who Rob Walton is, think Wal-Mart. Net worth $18 billion. So next time you see him, ask him why the king of chinese crap drives a Maserati? He should be driving a Daewoo! Or a "Modern Gentleman" -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From abcoz at hky.com Mon Oct 8 16:48:35 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:48:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <001f01c809fd$5c4bb360$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> David, Actually, there is a pressure limit switch on your compressor, which will limit tank pressure to around 150#. Your piping should be able to withstand significantly more pressure than that. Since you'll only need ONE regulator, you could do what I've done: I made up a stand, out of 1" sq. tubing, and ran a pipe nipple through the top section (a 4" piece of sq. tubing). On the inlet side, I mounted a water trap. On the outlet side, I mounted a regulator. The thing stands about a foot tall, and the four legs span about 18". I made up a similar stand, to which I mounted a lubricator. The lubricator has a 4' length of hose, on the outlet side, to which I've attached a quick-connector (the regulator/water trap unit is also equipped w/quick connectors), which attaches to whichever air tool I happen to be using. By lining it up this way, the only thing that gets lubricated is the tool (and a short section of air hose), instead of the entire air piping system, including regulators (which don't need it). When I need to work outside of my workshop/garage, it's very easy to take the regulator/water separator, and lubricator with me. With the regulator just a few feet from the tool, pressure drop is minimal, and never varies (for the tool) due to changing (adding/removing) sections of air hose to reach the work. Since (well, as recently as 10 years ago) I also apply paint using air from that compressor, I don't have to worry about oil-contamination, since I only use the lubricator as the last link to the air tools, and I can leave it out of the line for painting. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:18 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse OK, I won't ask any more questions about pipes... But I will ask about filters and regulators and lubricators in a multi-drop scenario. Obviously, I do not want a lubricator between the compressor and the pipes. I am looking at 3 or 4 drops along the 22' side wall of my garage. Since it is a big compressor, there is no built-in regulator. I am imagining a desire for a regulator between compressor and pipe, then a small filter/regulator on each drop with a lubricator on a couple of the drops. Yes? No? David Lieb From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 16:44:14 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071008164435.03700cc0@nosimport.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071008164435.03700cc0@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Well, you always have that option, it's called Amtrak. I've had locomotives that have developed over oil pressure. When that pukes oil it's time to call the EPA to clean up gallons and gallons of it. Overpressure of the crankcase on a locomotive automatically shuts the motor down though. Mike Peter C > At 04:31 PM 10/8/2007, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > >>In a message dated 10/7/2007 6:34:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, >>spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: >> >>Sounds like there is a need for a "MacLean Meeting". >> >>LAD >> >> >> >>Cool, another LA meeting...... >> >>Regards, >> >>Robert B. Houston > === > Maybe Mike can take a tour of the US in his train, and pick us all up! > > That'd be cooler > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Oct 8 16:46:19 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ooooh a whole set, what a great idea! Mike RampantNM at aol.com > In a message dated 10/8/2007 3:39:45 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > So, give me an excuse to go buy a new wrench. > What size is it? > > > > I think you'll need a whole set Mike....at least that's what I tell my > wife. > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > 63 TR4 > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and > for > several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 16:48:17 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:48:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> References: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <470AB3B1.2090201@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > I am imagining a desire > for a regulator between compressor and pipe, then a small filter/regulator > on each drop with a lubricator on a couple of the drops. Yes? No? Yes, a good regulater and a water separator right after the compressor. Drain drops plumbed down past each outlet except maybe the fill the tire outlet outside. I don't like those se;f oilers because they seem to use a lot of oil. A drop in the tool every 5 hrs of operation is all you need. I had an oiler, my air ratchet was squirting oil all over. Mini regulators are OK where you need them, powder coater gun, tire fill, blow gun sometimes. But those are the things that leak becuse of where they come from, yeah made to somebodys specs but they read from right to left and from the back of the book to the front so everything from there is back asswards. do NOT use one of those cheapie regulators at the compressor. And do put in couplings so you can replace it later. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dmg at bossig.com Mon Oct 8 17:17:00 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:17:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Money Talks and Fairness Walks In-Reply-To: <470AB10F.6080102@comcast.net> References: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP>, <470AB10F.6080102@comcast.net> Message-ID: <470A57FC.21564.1E12ECC@dmg.bossig.com> I'm reminded of an old Music Hall song we used to sing in London... "It's the same the whole world over Ain't it all a bleeding shame. It's the Rich what causes trouble, And the Poor what gets the blame" Ain't it the truth!! >> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >> >> > If you don't know who Rob Walton is, think Wal-Mart. Net worth $18 billion. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From duncan at pondhop.com Mon Oct 8 18:39:25 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:39:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> References: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <003b01c80a0c$dda2abd0$98e80370$@com> It is also worth thinking about a regulator bypass. When using things like blasters where you want max flow at full pressure I use the bypass. Even wound right up there will still be a flow restriction through the regulator. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:18 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse OK, I won't ask any more questions about pipes... But I will ask about filters and regulators and lubricators in a multi-drop scenario. Obviously, I do not want a lubricator between the compressor and the pipes. I am looking at 3 or 4 drops along the 22' side wall of my garage. Since it is a big compressor, there is no built-in regulator. I am imagining a desire for a regulator between compressor and pipe, then a small filter/regulator on each drop with a lubricator on a couple of the drops. Yes? No? David Lieb _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 8 19:37:50 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:37:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse References: <002101c80a15$2d614700$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <009001c80a15$013f0f40$0301a8c0@midget> > And, you are SOOOO right about not using the "cheapie" regulators (or > water separators, or lubricators). The good ones last just about > forever, anyway (and work like they're supposed to work), so they're > worth the extra cost. So, who sells the "good" ones (I already know who sells the cheapies)? David From dmg at bossig.com Mon Oct 8 20:52:09 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:52:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... Message-ID: <470A8A69.7500.2A62A2B@dmg.bossig.com> Has anybody seen this?? http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 It sure does me some good ;^D - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 20:57:25 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:57:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse References: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <024101c80a20$1f418d00$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> David: I was in the market about a dozen years ago and did some SERIOUS and TERIOUS research on the subject. At the time I was doing an order for some stuff from Tip Tools and their regulators, etc. matched what I had found on the web. As I was right at the level during a sale to get free shipping I ordered a trio of reg/sep. I did check with them and they told me that a reg & sep could ONLY be assembled in line with PIPE and that there was no "mounting kit". I said to myself "B.S.". Got them it, and did indeed fined that they are Master Pneumatic-Detroit gear. Major Dist. is in (nexr community) Burr Ridge. Jumped in car, drove over there and they said my "supplier" was full of crap and in 3 - 4 mts. hand me what I needed (ganger & mount). Nor expensive either!! I was and am a very happy camper and would buy from them again!! Kiser Controls Co. 7045High Grove Blvd. Burr Ridge, IL 60527 630-920-9171 800-966-9696 I will send you a couple pics in a couple mts.! For the rest of you, I will get up on my site in a day or so. Ed From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 20:58:21 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:58:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse References: <003901c809f9$068e60c0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <024901c80a20$407a0970$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Frank is dead on correct. There is also one other prob with home or small shop using "oiler" set-ups. Once you use a hose with an oiler that is all it is EVER good for again. It IS contaminated and cannot be used to paint or for a blast cabinet. Ed From abcoz at hky.com Mon Oct 8 21:26:06 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:26:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <024901c80a20$407a0970$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <002301c80a24$216ab1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Which is why you set it up so that only a short section of "dedicated" hose (between the oiler & tool) is used, and you NEVER use it with another section of hose "downstream" (discharge side). If "a drop of oil every 5 hrs of operation" was all that was needed, no company/shop would spend the money to install in-line oilers, and special air tool oil would not be offered. Sure, you can probably get away with "a drop of oil every 5 hours", if you don't use air tools that often or that long. But, it's so easy and relatively inexpensive to set up an oiler; why would you not take that extra precaution with your air tools? Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:58 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse <> Frank is dead on correct. There is also one other prob with home or small shop using "oiler" set-ups. Once you use a hose with an oiler that is all it is EVER good for again. It IS contaminated and cannot be used to paint or for a blast cabinet. Ed From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 21:41:31 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:41:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse References: <002301c80a24$216ab1c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <00db01c80a26$492d7510$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Even as a small shop Bud, the price of an oiler, a dedicated section of hose plus quick connect and having to go to said RESTRICTED area to use it, buys me a TON of 5 drops....! And I am NOT stupid enough to forget!! My couple decades old air tools STILL work just fine, thank you. And for a hobbiest?? Are you nuts?? From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Mon Oct 8 22:00:49 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <024901c80a20$407a0970$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <914238.46043.qm@web38909.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That is why my set up is dedecated only for that use and located over the bench. I have four tools i use there and run them all for long periods of time. Almost everyday. Like Frank said - If you are not running the tools everyday for long periods of time and do not have kids who may not remember to put them little drops of oil in the tool. You would probably be just fine self oiling the tools. With the new cheap tools it may not matter because it will probably fail for some other reason before you would have to worry about the oil. Vigil 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> wrote: <> Frank is dead on correct. There is also one other prob with home or small shop using "oiler" set-ups. Once you use a hose with an oiler that is all it is EVER good for again. It IS contaminated and cannot be used to paint or for a blast cabinet. Ed _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Oct 8 22:21:23 2007 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:21:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... In-Reply-To: <470A8A69.7500.2A62A2B@dmg.bossig.com> References: <470A8A69.7500.2A62A2B@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0710082121u31e78be3k889bbcb94cf30e91@mail.gmail.com> On 10/8/07, Dave G. wrote: > Has anybody seen this?? > http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 > It sure does me some good ;^D > Bravo! Hadn't seen it ... thanks for the post. From BCAH at aol.com Tue Oct 9 02:43:49 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:43:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] oil pres relief nut Message-ID: My notes say it miked 9/16 whitworth. which is 1.010 inches,--------------------Bob C ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BCAH at aol.com Tue Oct 9 03:26:32 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 05:26:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] BI rear brake Message-ID: I was looking at a BI yesterday and noticed that the rear brake adjusting was done by turning a square peg on the inside of the backing plate. On my BI, I adjust the rear brakes by turning a slotted screw on the outside of the wheel. Is there any significance to this as to year? I put mine together from a pile of parts years ago. Also, is it true that there were only a few true wire wheel 1'4 elliptic BI from the factory? I am still trying to identify which axle I have,--is it a wire wheel version or a solid wheel one. I figure measuring the hand brake rods would tell the tale.From center of hole to center of hole. Anyone out there have any measurements? If the PO did just put wire wheel axles into a solid wheel car, the shaft is a little short. A fellow in the UK recommended pressing the shaft out from the splined knock off hub by 1/'2 inch. I can not imagine how much force that would take. I'm putting a breathed on 1275 in it and do not want to be in the axle breaking business.Any thoughts out there. Maybe getting those high dollar racing solid wheel shafts and then maybe bolting on splined hub adapters? What is the collected wisdom? Thanks people,---Bob C in Kansas ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Oct 9 05:21:40 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 7:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 21 Message-ID: <891514.1191928900300.JavaMail.root@wmvirt55> Maybe Mike can take a tour of the US in his train, and pick us all up! That'd be cooler. Peter C Even cooler still would be if he put his car on a flatbed railcar and brought it to us! We could work on it, grill out, get drunk, etc., as we saw the countryside... No urinating off the side of a moving railcar unless you're at the tail end of the car though! Ed From abcoz at hky.com Tue Oct 9 07:33:01 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:33:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <00db01c80a26$492d7510$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <002e01c80a78$ea172dc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Ed, While I agree that there are two valid sides to this argument, and I haven't priced oilers, lately; I suspect that the cost of duplicating the set-up I built is still very minimal. For me (and many others, I suspect), it's well worth doing, for the peace of mind and lack of effort (to lubricate air tools adequately) it takes. For a hobbyist? Well, yes. In spite of my commercial/industrial marine background, my workshop is purely for fun. I just like to do things the best way I know how, within (economic) reason. I strongly suspect that I'm not alone, here. Am I nuts? Possibly (I come from a long line of eccentrics) a little bit, but, you're getting a bit personal here, aren't you, Ed? Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:42 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse <> Even as a small shop Bud, the price of an oiler, a dedicated section of hose plus quick connect and having to go to said RESTRICTED area to use it, buys me a TON of 5 drops....! And I am NOT stupid enough to forget!! My couple decades old air tools STILL work just fine, thank you. And for a hobbiest?? Are you nuts?? From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 9 07:31:09 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:31:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS oiler Message-ID: <002001c80a78$a92b9c60$fb82d520$@com> One of the cars we'll be stripping at SOS '07 has one of the oilers used in a Judson supercharger application. I'm sure one of youse guys needs it. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 9 07:39:54 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:39:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BI rear brake In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071009083251.0341c6d8@nosimport.com> At 04:26 AM 10/9/2007, BCAH at aol.com wrote: >I was looking at a BI yesterday and noticed that the rear brake adjusting >was done by turning a square peg on the inside of the backing >plate. On my BI, >I adjust the rear brakes by turning a slotted screw on the outside of the >wheel. Is there any significance to this as to year? I put mine >together from >a pile of parts years ago. Also, is it true that there were only a few true >wire wheel 1'4 elliptic BI from the factory? I am still trying to identify >which axle I have,--is it a wire wheel version or a solid wheel >one. I figure >measuring the hand brake rods would tell the tale.From center of hole to >center of hole. Anyone out there have any measurements? If the PO >did just put >wire wheel axles into a solid wheel car, the shaft is a little >short. A fellow >in the UK recommended pressing the shaft out from the splined knock >off hub by >1/'2 inch. I can not imagine how much force that would take. I'm putting a >breathed on 1275 in it and do not want to be in the axle breaking >business.Any >thoughts out there. Maybe getting those high dollar racing solid wheel >shafts and then maybe bolting on splined hub adapters? What is the collected >wisdom? Thanks people,---Bob C in Kansas ====================== Bob, From your description of the brake adjuster, you should have the "late 948" brakes. The wheel cylinder has two opposing pistons and the adjustment is from the backside using the 2 wedgies. (The Bugeye would have had a single piston sliding cylinder with adjustment done through the brake drum and by turning the snail-cam at the end of the cylinder.) I say late 948 because you must still have all of the 1/4 elliptic stuff. So, call the axle from a 61-64 Midget with wire wheels, and I think you'll be fine. Peter C. From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Oct 9 08:33:16 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:33:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Will it add a heavy metal sound to an air guitar? Sorry. :-O -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:54 AM To: oldsaabguy; Patrick Elliott Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings > Umm ... by shop I mean hobby shop. Just me a few hours a week, 20 old > SAABs, and walls of rusty bits needing sandblasting and paint. Pipe is cheap and only takes a couple of hours. All you need is a chopsaw, a vice, your Harbor Freight pipe threading set, and a tube of pipe compound. It's easy. I've always used pipe at home too, where the air is mostly for tires, air shocks, and basketballs. BZ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 08:40:19 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:40:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <05d801c8079b$915a5200$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget><002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com><02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com> <3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net> <05d801c8079b$915a5200$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <9F248872-B15F-4C7F-96C2-8162DFC34C5B@comcast.net> ARRGGHHH.. teach me to try to email from my iPhone.. without glasses.. ;-0 Lester On Oct 5, 2007, at 5:03 PM, WJHS1960 wrote: > I think we are ALL dying to know, Lester... > > <> > > What bird did you pick for it's feathers??? How did you pluck?? > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Tue Oct 9 09:49:01 2007 From: dwramsey at att.net (dwramsey at att.net) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:49:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... Message-ID: <100920071549.5864.470BA2EC00099A34000016E821603763169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not "illegal" to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump on me about this, the Reno police department stated in the local paper that it isn't against city, state, or federal law. I haven't heard of any action being taken against the vet who cut it down. It kind of died down around here because the 12 local McDonald's were raided by ICE and 54 out of 65 employees were arrested, 8 were deported to Mexico and the rest were let go because it would be a hardship on their family. Big protest downtown by both sides, so I guess the flag cutting was forgotten. Don't worry most of us vets in town carry knifes, and know how to use them. Crash "life member" DAV > Has anybody seen this?? > http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 > It sure does me some good ;^D > > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Oct 9 10:01:06 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:01:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil pres relief nut References: Message-ID: <001401c80a8d$99d99860$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> That would explain why the 1"open end wrench works so well on that cap. Glen > My notes say it miked 9/16 whitworth. which is 1.010 > inches,--------------------Bob C From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 10:24:13 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:24:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... In-Reply-To: <100920071549.5864.470BA2EC00099A34000016E821603763169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> References: <100920071549.5864.470BA2EC00099A34000016E821603763169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <0F58C13F-6797-409C-AAD3-51F4AF40875F@comcast.net> Damn.. you're right.. our Supreme Court has taken care of that. See Section 7, c. Lester http://www.suvcw.org/flag.htm On Oct 9, 2007, at 10:49 AM, dwramsey at att.net wrote: > I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not > "illegal" to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump > on me about this, the Reno police department stated in the local > paper that it isn't against city, state, or federal law. I haven't > heard of any action being taken against the vet who cut it down. It > kind of died down around here because the 12 local McDonald's were > raided by ICE and 54 out of 65 employees were arrested, 8 were > deported to Mexico and the rest were let go because it would be a > hardship on their family. Big protest downtown by both sides, so I > guess the flag cutting was forgotten. Don't worry most of us vets > in town carry knifes, and know how to use them. > Crash "life member" DAV > >> Has anybody seen this?? >> http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 >> It sure does me some good ;^D >> >> >> - >> Dave G >> '65 MKIII Sprite From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Oct 10 07:01:43 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:01:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up In-Reply-To: <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com><01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: G-damn Brazilian trash! Wadda YOU know about soccer?? ;-) <- smirky smile You ARE an incisive protagonist. If I take the spacer out, I'll lose it. If I keep it in there, I'll know exactly where it is if I ever need it again. This is really a space management issue! -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:48 PM To: Deikis, John G; Spridgets Cc: Michael D Myers; Peter C; Ron Soave Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up So let me guess, you took all the data and asked yourself, "How can I possibly F this up the worst?" The answer that sprang to mind seems to have been, "I will look at each piece of advice and pick something that person told me not to do and do it." That way, when the whole thing is completely F'ed up, I can blame all of them. I agree that the spacer has no precision and therefore less than zero value UNLESS it is being used with the ball bearings which need it. If you really want to use the spacer, use the ball bearings. If you are going to go to roller bearings, use them the way they were intended and ditch the spacer. Make your choice. If you insist on using the spacer, it accomplishes nothing unless it is torqued into place, so either torque it down or ditch it and set your end float. You remind me of the old Mark Twain line about a camel being a horse designed by a committee!!! Please tell me you are NOT going to race on this kludge... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Oct 10 07:02:47 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:02:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: wheel bearings Follow-up Message-ID: Thanks everybody for your input. I sorta wish I had just stayed with the ball bearings at this point, but here's what I did over the weekend: I read through all the archived posts on this topic. The spacer things look like they were cast by a blacksmith out of pot metal...no precision at all. I can't believe they have any value as a "sandwich" in there between roller bearings under compression of 45# torque-- although I have great respect for John Twist and Tom Colby. Seems like the spacer could potentially work to distort the accurate alignment of the bearing when torqued into the recommended "sandwich." That said, I decided to keep the spacer, since no one mentioned it would do any harm if NOT torqued. I decided against that 45# of torque squeezing the whole assembly together in service. I chose to follow Timken's recommendation of seating the assembly and backing off a castle slot. Just Ed sent me a large selection of MGB spacer shims and I shimmed to about .006" float. I probably have 10# of torque or less on the big nut. BTW, the question about broken spindles puzzled me as the Spridget front spindle has always been a "weak link". I have seen quite a few break right at the base. Enough to motivate me to cough up the change for a set of Winners Circle high strength spindles a few years back. JohnD From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Oct 9 10:53:16 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:53:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... References: <100920071549.5864.470BA2EC00099A34000016E821603763169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <001f01c80a94$e3274ba0$1da1bf46@personal> Hardship, what the heck. Breaking the law is supose to cause a hardship. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yippee!! No LBC content.... >I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not "illegal" >to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump on me about this, >the Reno police department stated in the local paper that it isn't against >city, state, or federal law. I haven't heard of any action being taken >against the vet who cut it down. It kind of died down around here because >the 12 local McDonald's were raided by ICE and 54 out of 65 employees were >arrested, 8 were deported to Mexico and the rest were let go because it >would be a hardship on their family. Big protest downtown by both sides, >so I guess the flag cutting was forgotten. Don't worry most of us vets in >town carry knifes, and know how to use them. > Crash "life member" DAV > >> Has anybody seen this?? >> http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 >> It sure does me some good ;^D >> >> >> - >> Dave G >> '65 MKIII Sprite > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1057 - Release Date: 10/8/2007 > 9:04 AM From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 9 15:33:14 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up In-Reply-To: References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> <01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071009163159.038210d8@nosimport.com> At 04:20 PM 10/9/2007, Deikis, John G wrote: > >BTW, the question about broken spindles puzzled me as the Spridget front >spindle has always been a "weak link". I have seen quite a few break >right at the base. Enough to motivate me to cough up the change for a >set of Winners Circle high strength spindles a few years back. > >JohnD =========================================================== I saw one of those break at Grattan a few years back. FWIW PPP From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 10 07:36:38 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:36:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com><01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <003401c80b42$96c6b0d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >>>If I take the spacer out, I'll lose it. If I keep it in there, I'll know exactly where it is if I ever need it again. This is really a space management issue! Good point... I think I might know where mine went... or not. I guess we all need that cabinet for parts we won't need again until we want a concours trailer queen. I hope I never get that old cuz I sure won't be able to remember where I put the parts by then. David Lieb From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Oct 10 09:24:08 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:24:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics Message-ID: <28974091.1192029848154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I haven't been able to locate a copy of Practical Classics. If anyone could scan the article or mail me a photocopy, I would appreciate. Please contact me offline if you can be of help. Thanks, jay fishbein wallingford, ct From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Oct 10 07:32:41 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:32:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] great creative animation No LBC, but look anyway Message-ID: Be careful what you do on your computer. All that code can get away from you! ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: great creative animation http://alanbecker.deviantart.com/art/Animator-vs-Animation-34244097 ________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 10 09:39:03 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:39:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics References: <28974091.1192029848154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004a01c80b53$afd397d0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I haven't been able to locate a copy of Practical Classics. If anyone could >scan the article or mail me a photocopy, I would appreciate. Please contact >me offline if you can be of help. You mean it isn't up on the JustED site yet??? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 10:36:14 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:36:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Money Talks and Fairness Walks In-Reply-To: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> References: <00d801c809f6$52e8c350$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <241F2207-FB05-40A7-BDCF-337957A34F4A@comcast.net> Now be fair.. back in my Pro-Rally days when a stage was protested the cause of the protest was ignored and a list of the screw-ees was prepared. If that list contained big names then the protest, no matter how well founded a force majeur may be, was ignored.. and that didn't take 18 billion at all, just sponsorship from Bridgestone... Lester On Oct 8, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > > The verdict should have been for both drivers to take it easy. > > If you don't know who Rob Walton is, think Wal-Mart. Net worth $18 > billion. > > Larry Miller (still pissed) > ____________________________ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 10 09:57:02 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:57:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: wheel bearings Follow-up References: Message-ID: <001201c80b56$33090020$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The outside surface of the ones in my car look as you describe, but the two faces that meet the bearing races are carefully machined to a flat serface. Their intention seems clear. When torqued together, the axle nut, outer bearing inner race, spacer, and the inner bearing inner race become a "solid" metal axle that greatly exceeds the original axle diameter. Imagine a 10" long mild steel bolt that you can bend in your bare hands. Now fill the length of the bolt with a stack of 1" fender washers and snug them up tight with a nut at the very end (say...45 lbs torque). Now grab the 1" diameter "thing" you just made and try to bend it. No chance. Though the logic took years to sink in, I now see the intention of the original design. Glen Byrns > I read through all the archived posts on this topic. The spacer things > look like they were cast by a blacksmith out of pot metal...no precision > at all. I can't believe they have any value as a "sandwich" in there > between roller bearings under compression of 45# torque-- although I From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 18:19:05 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 17:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up In-Reply-To: <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <976894.85360.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > If you insist on using the spacer, > it accomplishes nothing > unless it is torqued into place Wow. This post was so nasty it was hard to get past much of it, but I do agree with the above snippet. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 9 15:47:34 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:47:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up References: <20071003.222042.3468.1.mdmyers_ct@juno.com><01d901c80630$46f7c920$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> So let me guess, you took all the data and asked yourself, "How can I possibly F this up the worst?" The answer that sprang to mind seems to have been, "I will look at each piece of advice and pick something that person told me not to do and do it." That way, when the whole thing is completely F'ed up, I can blame all of them. I agree that the spacer has no precision and therefore less than zero value UNLESS it is being used with the ball bearings which need it. If you really want to use the spacer, use the ball bearings. If you are going to go to roller bearings, use them the way they were intended and ditch the spacer. Make your choice. If you insist on using the spacer, it accomplishes nothing unless it is torqued into place, so either torque it down or ditch it and set your end float. You remind me of the old Mark Twain line about a camel being a horse designed by a committee!!! Please tell me you are NOT going to race on this kludge... David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 16:14:40 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse In-Reply-To: <002e01c80a78$ea172dc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Message-ID: <240191.56361.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had never used an oiler until i went to a Auction. I got some tools, lines , holders for tools, water separators and oilers. A manufacturing place was selling off the contents and it all looked like new industrial grade. I was told they had to build the new mfg line before moving the company to the new site. That every thing was used the week before to keep the company running during the relocation. They were selling every thing cheap. You could not buy 1 or 2 items. They had boxes of 20 items. I bought all the boxes i got for not much more then 2 items would cost in the store. I am glad i got them as they work well and the tools run smooth. Like you say - No Worries- I did find it hard to regulate the oil. I had never worked with the oiler. I had to much oil going in the line. I had to clean out every thing and start over several times. I finally got it right because i found a oiler that had been set by the place i bought the stuff. Once i got it figured out and dialed in - I have never had to touch them except for the filter cleaning or change. Vigil Bud Osbourne wrote: Ed, While I agree that there are two valid sides to this argument, and I haven't priced oilers, lately; I suspect that the cost of duplicating the set-up I built is still very minimal. For me (and many others, I suspect), it's well worth doing, for the peace of mind and lack of effort (to lubricate air tools adequately) it takes. For a hobbyist? Well, yes. In spite of my commercial/industrial marine background, my workshop is purely for fun. I just like to do things the best way I know how, within (economic) reason. I strongly suspect that I'm not alone, here. Am I nuts? Possibly (I come from a long line of eccentrics) a little bit, but, you're getting a bit personal here, aren't you, Ed? Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 63AHBJ7 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:42 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back to the dead horse <> Even as a small shop Bud, the price of an oiler, a dedicated section of hose plus quick connect and having to go to said RESTRICTED area to use it, buys me a TON of 5 drops....! And I am NOT stupid enough to forget!! My couple decades old air tools STILL work just fine, thank you. And for a hobbiest?? Are you nuts?? _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 10 11:20:08 2007 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:20:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics Message-ID: <005e01c80b61$cee0a060$1be25f80@psych.washington.edu> A local news stand here in Seattle (Bulldog News) told me yesterday they expect the October issue of Practical Classics to be in the third week in October. They charge $10.25. Rich Ball '76 Midget From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Oct 9 10:43:18 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Flag laws No LBC content.... In-Reply-To: <100920071549.5864.470BA2EC00099A34000016E821603763169B0A02D29B9B0EBF970A9C030E9D990B@att.net> Message-ID: <652275.24901.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> How about this one..... Crash - i think your wrong. The US flag does have laws. (c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States of America, except during church services conducted by naval chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the United States at any place within the United States or any Territory or possession thereof. Provided, That nothing in this section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations. (d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should be in front of the staff of the other flag. (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs. http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/misc/ourflag/flaglaws1.htm I like this one - Right Frank.......LOL A new Minnesota law New State Laws Say American Flag Cant be "Made in China" Vigil dwramsey at att.net wrote: I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not "illegal" to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump on me about this, the Reno police department stated in the local paper that it isn't against city, state, or federal law. I haven't heard of any action being taken against the vet who cut it down. It kind of died down around here because the 12 local McDonald's were raided by ICE and 54 out of 65 employees were arrested, 8 were deported to Mexico and the rest were let go because it would be a hardship on their family. Big protest downtown by both sides, so I guess the flag cutting was forgotten. Don't worry most of us vets in town carry knifes, and know how to use them. Crash "life member" DAV > Has anybody seen this?? > http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 > It sure does me some good ;^D > > > - > Dave G > '65 MKIII Sprite _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Oct 10 12:05:12 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:05:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] UnPractical Classics :-) Message-ID: <6481999.1192039513077.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To Rich (and all the others who responded to my question), Thanks for the info. Another lister forwarded me a copy that he had scanned on his computer. Reading it and looking at the pictures brings back lots of memories. It was a great time, great experience, and a unique event. One Sprite, a few dozen guys, lots of sweat, grease, beer, laughs, and camaraderie. Hmmmmm. Easy to get emotional about this! A once-in-a-lifetime memory. Glad as hell I was there. Glad I was able to meet all the fine folks involved. And glad I was able to help out Buster and Pam. jay fishbein wallingford, ct http://home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: Richard Ball >Sent: Oct 10, 2007 1:20 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics > >A local news stand here in Seattle (Bulldog News) told me yesterday they >expect the October issue of Practical Classics to be in the third week in >October. They charge $10.25. > >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >_______________________________________________ >type79 at ix.netcom.com > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 10 12:09:24 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:09:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flag laws No LBC content.... In-Reply-To: <652275.24901.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <652275.24901.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <408A6F91-CC1C-4853-A07C-D31825E8DA23@comcast.net> That is the section 7c that I referred to earlier. If you look at the entire story, the US Supreme Court has struck down anything official. Lester On Oct 9, 2007, at 11:43 AM, wrote: > How about this one..... > > Crash - i think your wrong. The US flag does have laws. > > (c) No other flag or pennant should be placed above or, > if on the same level, to the right of the flag of the United States > of America, except during church services conducted by naval > chaplains at sea, when the church pennant may be flown above the > flag during church services for the personnel of the Navy. No > person shall display the flag of the United Nations or any other > national or international flag equal, above, or in a position of > superior prominence or honor to, or in place of, the flag of the > United States at any place within the United States or any > Territory or possession thereof. Provided, That nothing in this > section shall make unlawful the continuance of the practice > heretofore followed of displaying the flag of the United Nations in > a position of superior prominence or honor, and other national > flags in positions of equal prominence or honor, with that of the > flag of the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations. > (d) The flag of the United States of America, when it is > displayed with another flag against a wall from crossed staffs, > should be on the right, the flag's own right, and its staff should > be in front of the staff of the other flag. > > (e) The flag of the United States of America should be at > the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of > flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped > and displayed from staffs. > > > > http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/misc/ourflag/flaglaws1.htm > > I like this one - Right Frank.......LOL > > A new Minnesota law > New State Laws Say American Flag Cant be "Made in China" Vigil > > dwramsey at att.net wrote: > I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not > "illegal" to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump > on me about this, the Reno police department stated in the local > paper that it isn't against city, state, or federal law. I haven't > heard of any action being taken against the vet who cut it down. It > kind of died down around here because the 12 local McDonald's were > raided by ICE and 54 out of 65 employees were arrested, 8 were > deported to Mexico and the rest were let go because it would be a > hardship on their family. Big protest downtown by both sides, so I > guess the flag cutting was forgotten. Don't worry most of us vets > in town carry knifes, and know how to use them. > Crash "life member" DAV > >> Has anybody seen this?? >> http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=6314 >> It sure does me some good ;^D >> >> >> - >> Dave G >> '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 10 12:49:38 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:49:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Flag laws No LBC content.... In-Reply-To: <652275.24901.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <652275.24901.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <470D1EC2.2050103@earthlink.net> dwramsey at att.net wrote: "I saw it on local TV here in Reno, for what it is worth it is not "illegal" to fly the American flag like that. Before you all jump on me about this, the Reno police department stated in the local paper that it isn't against city, state, or federal law." Oh, I don't "blame" you, but I sure as hell blame your city's bonehead "journalists" and its stupid-ass police. You see, it most certainly IS against the law. More specifically it is a violation of United States Code : 4 U.S.C. ' 1 et seq., popularly called The Flag Code. Just because it carries no punishment does not carry any punishment for willful violation does not mean it is not the law. When on December 22, 1942, the law was passed, it was to regularize and let all people know the proper use and manner of respect for the flag that at that moment was protecting our land. Who could have possibly conceived at that time, a time when young Americans were dying and shedding their blood to protect and defend it, that anyone would intentionally disrespect it? Why, therefore, would any "punishment" be felt necessary? True, during the Vietnam Era, when many of us were again dying and shedding blood, it became popular among some sadly misguided souls, to hate and disrespect our flag. It was then that the trendy lefty Supreme Court held that hatred of our flag and the obscene and loathsome damage and destruction of our flag was simply the exercise of the individual's freedom of speech, and therefore protected by the First Amendment. In the decades that followed, Federal, State, and local governments have cowardly refused to challenge such liberal court orders, preferring instead to sit on their backside and let the historic pride in our country slowly be eroded by what is fashionable and politically correct. Who is to blame. Most assuredly those idiots such as see in the Reno media and police department, but in fact, all of us. How many, after all, have written in protest to their elected representatives? Until people do so and assert their beliefs, they have no right to sit on THEIR backside and simply complain among themselves. I shall now step down and yield the remainder of my time to those of the Looney Left. Buster Evans Ex-JO2, USN, Vietnam Era From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Oct 10 13:35:09 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:35:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 29 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/10/2007 10:44:41 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Imagine a 10" long mild steel bolt that you can bend in your bare hands. Wow, what a great party trick Glen! I know you looked fit, but not Jack LaLaneish...;=) Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 10 13:48:48 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:48:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] UnPractical Classics :-) References: <6481999.1192039513077.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000a01c80b76$937c4320$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I think Jay, oops, I mean jay, spoke for me as well. It was an unforgettable experience I will always treasure. Glen Byrns > To Rich (and all the others who responded to my question), > > Thanks for the info. Another lister forwarded me a copy that he had > scanned on his computer. > > Reading it and looking at the pictures brings back lots of memories. It > was a great time, great experience, and a unique event. One Sprite, a few > dozen guys, lots of sweat, grease, beer, laughs, and camaraderie. > > Hmmmmm. Easy to get emotional about this! > > A once-in-a-lifetime memory. Glad as hell I was there. Glad I was able to > meet all the fine folks involved. And glad I was able to help out Buster > and Pam. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 10 13:56:18 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:56:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] more EFI progress Message-ID: <000e01c80b77$9f79ea00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I posted this yesterday but I think the UC mailserver took a dump. I now have all the bits save for hoses and clamps. I hit the Fairfield Pick-and-Pull Sunday and got two injector connectors and a steel fuel rail that can be cut and welded into the needed shape for the two injectors I plan to use. I did a 60 mile drive with the carb and had the computer hooked up the whole time to watch the sensors and see the little LEDs blink like they were actually running the car. All good. Last night I unbolted the carb and started fabrication of the critical missing piece, the pipe that connects the turbo to the throttle body. It will have to have a slight twist to put the TB in a good place near the master cylinder that will leave room for a conical air filter, It will have to have a straight run of 4" going into the mouth of the turbo, and the injectors will be mounted atop this pipe at an angle to shoot into the turbo vanes. It will also have to have a mount for the fuel pressure regulator and a port for the gulp valve. The Sunday drive was perfect, over 30MPG, good boost response, and with the cam timing adjusted to 106 from the poor performing 110deg., the plugs were clean and perfectly colored. If it weren't for the slight knock on hard boost, I'd wonder why I'm bothering to mess with a very good setup. The goal is to get a bit closer to perfection. If a seat-of-the-pants,hand filed needle can yield this performance, what will a modern EFI do for it?? We'll soon see. No progress tonight though. We're celebrating the newly empty nest and going out for West-coast Swing dance lessons. Glen Byrns From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Oct 10 14:55:37 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Project? Message-ID: <21c8ca5aeb5a5475ea293c9a.20071010135537.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I know the last thing I need is a new project, but there is a 1964 XKE Coupe in the local Pennysaver that says, "Body in great condition, stick shift, needs work". Think this project would be cost prohibitive? What a 64 XKE engine and trans rebuild going for these days? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (with problems) 56 BN2 (not finished) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Oct 10 14:59:48 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] "New Project?" Message-ID: <2f040a7e870a758a0a39630a.20071010135948.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Forgot, they are only asking $1500 Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From refisk at chartermi.net Wed Oct 10 15:07:00 2007 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:07:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "New Project?" References: <2f040a7e870a758a0a39630a.20071010135948.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <03ca01c80b81$8065efb0$6401a8c0@refisk> If the body really is straight I would guess it's worth a lot more than $1500. If you sell your Bugeye you would probably have the cost of an XKE engine rebuild covered. Now, as for the transmission.......... :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "New Project?" > Forgot, they are only asking $1500 > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 15:30:31 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <28974091.1192029848154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <550783.8719.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jay, Same problem here. I tried to read the scan that i got. But for some reason i could never open it. My pc problem - probably. Still on old windows 2. I sent it over to my son. He could open it - but it was very hard to read - Vigil type79 at ix.netcom.com wrote: I haven't been able to locate a copy of Practical Classics. If anyone could scan the article or mail me a photocopy, I would appreciate. Please contact me offline if you can be of help. Thanks, jay fishbein wallingford, ct _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 10 16:46:34 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:46:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget><002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com><02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com><3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net><05d801c8079b$915a5200$6601a8c0@actualshop> <9F248872-B15F-4C7F-96C2-8162DFC34C5B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <022d01c80b8f$69f2ae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Just ask any kid, 5 YO and up, on the street/sidewalk! They know how to do that stuff!! LOL! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "oldsaabguy" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings > ARRGGHHH.. teach me to try to email from my iPhone.. > Lester From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Wed Oct 10 16:54:03 2007 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:54:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC BZ Message-ID: <000f01c80b90$7478f760$97c7584c@Music> Ron and other Billy Zoom fans, there is a very nice story on him and X in the latest Guitar Player Mag - the November issue, he's in the guitar heroes section. He even shows you how to play one of his riffs. Jon From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 10 17:01:41 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:01:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Project? In-Reply-To: <21c8ca5aeb5a5475ea293c9a.20071010135537.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: That's the Moss box. Maybe you could just upgrade to the later full-synchro? From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Oct 10 15:49:16 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:49:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lincon 110v mig for sale in WI Message-ID: <002001c80b87$6968de70$3c3a9b50$@com> Hey y'all, I've gotten roped into building 170' of aluminum framed boat dock for my association. I've got a stick welder, a big tig welder, and a Lincoln Idealarc SP-100 110v mig. This is a true mig, using a bottle of gas, not a flux core deal. I'm going to have to buy something in a mig that's 220v and spool gun capable for the pier project, so I will be selling the little Lincoln. I've owned this since new. but it has been used very lightly, just on some sheetmetal projects on restorations in my home shop. Its a perfect little welder for home auto restorations. I did have a new liner installed last year. I thought I'd mention it here before I Ebay it. Interested? (Trying now to determine the value.) WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 9 13:57:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:57:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is the truth Message-ID: <005c01c80aae$9db57000$d9205000$@com> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21207748/site/newsweek/ Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 9 12:26:37 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 13:26:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] marvel Mystery Oiler Message-ID: <004501c80aa1$ef5051d0$cdf0f570$@com> Is sold. thanks for the interest. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 10 17:05:42 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:05:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "New Project?" In-Reply-To: <2f040a7e870a758a0a39630a.20071010135948.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: > they are only asking $1500 You could stick in a small block and an auto and put it on ebay. You'd make a small fortune. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 17:08:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:08:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] "New Project?" In-Reply-To: <2f040a7e870a758a0a39630a.20071010135948.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <2f040a7e870a758a0a39630a.20071010135948.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710101608m6f88ecccpeae3d925fc1b7f00@mail.gmail.com> The front cap in any kind of usable condition is worth $1500. As is the motor. We are talking E-Type, right? Are you sure they didn't mean $15,000? From sprite58 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 10 18:12:36 2007 From: sprite58 at hotmail.com (r moses) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:12:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Jubilee Cheap is good, Free is better Message-ID: Cheap is good, Free is better Cheap ... Take $25 off of the current $75 Sprite Jubilee Registration Fee with written proof of registration for one of the following meets: Austin-Healey Club of America 2008 Conclave .. or .. Austin-Healey Sports & Touring Club 2008 Encounter .. or .. Sprite-Midget Club Lake of Ozarks, MO Gathering. FREE ... Vendors & Tailgate Sales space is FREE. You do not have to pay anything to come and sell/trate/buy items at Sprite Jubilee but you must register by filling out and submitting this form in order to receive FREE inside or outside selling spaces. Visit the Sprite Jubilee 2008 Registration Form Sprite Jubilee is a fabulous family vacation event at a Super Resort !!!Hotel Carlisle Group Registration Form PDF attached ... OR ... Telephone anytime Nation Wide Toll Free 800-692-7315. 8-12 1-4 weekdays eastern USA time works best. All children are welcome at all events, pay events at a reduced fee, or at concurrent parties just for the children. The 5 day meet Registration Fee* includes everybody in your family that is living at your home and all the British & Sports cars you all own. There are no additional charges for your driving age dependents or cars you all own. The $75 fee is the same as Sprite Spree 2003 five years ago and cheaper if you go to more than one or three specific events in 2008 and it includes more people and cars. For the event of a lifetime register now! The Sprite's 50th anniversary, May 20, 2008 happens just once at Sprite Jubilee 2008 in Central Pennsylvania USA. * Note: Carlisle Import/Kit/Replicar Nationals, May 16 - 18, 2008. Requires a separate registration and fee with Carlisle Productions. Register daily or save money on an all three day show field pass with your car. www.carsatcarlisle.com FOR HELP with Registering for Sprite Jubilee 2008 or resort room accommodations contact Rick Moses personally at nationwide toll free 877-748-3165, cell phone 717-379-5752 and by email at SPRITE anytime! Dont be frustrated; talk to Rick. Keep smiling! _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 19:31:52 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <550783.8719.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <970653.68165.qm@web30509.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I got mine at Barnes and Noble today, it just hit the store this week. While you're at it, pick up November 2007 Guitar Player magazine, with "Guitar Heroes A to Z" featuring a full page story on one Billy Zoom under "X". Obligatory other guitarist content: Zappa is under "Z". uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: > Jay, > > Same problem here. > > I tried to read the scan that i got. But for some > reason i could never open it. My pc problem - > probably. Still on old windows 2. I sent it over to > my son. He could open it - but it was very hard to > read - ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 10 20:16:04 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:16:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC BZ Message-ID: <380-22007104112164933@earthlink.net> Jon Paschke wrote: "Ron and other Billy Zoom fans, there is a very nice story on him ...in the latest Guitar Player Mag." No kidding, Billy plays the guitar? Is that supposed to be something more than him just being a friend? Buster From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Wed Oct 10 20:53:06 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] local source? Message-ID: I need a few double connectors, Mo$$ part no. 161-600. They are only 95 cents each, but I don't want to wait a week to get them. Is there a likely local source for this part? Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 21:24:41 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:24:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] local source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710102024h10359848tcd02b104f9fd9b2e@mail.gmail.com> If those are double bullets you are wanting I may have some. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 01:36:40 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Craigslist Bugeye for sale - Seattle WA Message-ID: <441250190710110036x24329d9dk5b76b68d506c5b32@mail.gmail.com> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/445449048.html Seems like a good deal, NFI. 1961 austin healey bugeye sprite OBO must sell - $750 ------------------------------ Reply to: sale-445449048 at craigslist.org Date: 2007-10-10, 1:50PM PDT 1961 Austin healey sprite shell no front suspension parts rear suspension all there cut firewall bonnet there near perfect body flawless windscreen must sell by saturday, moving and i have no place to put it now make on offer can deliver around seattle area alex 360-640-0460 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 07:21:12 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings In-Reply-To: <022d01c80b8f$69f2ae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <02b601c806ea$75aec100$0301a8c0@midget><002c01c806ed$a46ecdc0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com><5f00d9910710041829i33157a08v1f352187cf31998e@mail.gmail.com><02d701c806f1$1fd1b060$0301a8c0@midget><7.0.1.0.2.20071005094123.0337f8e0@nosimport.com><3011FDE6-D44A-4225-9286-984B9A4BE5A5@comcast.net><05d801c8079b$915a5200$6601a8c0@actualshop> <9F248872-B15F-4C7F-96C2-8162DFC34C5B@comcast.net> <022d01c80b8f$69f2ae40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: nah.. they just have smaller fingers and better vision.. ;-) Lester On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Just ask any kid, 5 YO and up, on the street/sidewalk! They know > how to do > that stuff!! > > LOL! > > Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "oldsaabguy" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air Compressor Fittings > > >> ARRGGHHH.. teach me to try to email from my iPhone.. >> Lester From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Oct 9 10:55:32 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:55:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] more EFI progress Message-ID: <000601c80a95$3b305fd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I now have all the bits save for hoses and clamps. I hit the Fairfield Pick-and-Pull Sunday and got two injector connectors and a steel fuel rail that can be cut and welded into the needed shape for the two injectors I plan to use. I did a 60 mile drive with the carb and had the computer hooked up the whole time to watch the sensors and see the little LEDs blink like they were actually running the car. All good. Last night I unbolted the carb and started fabrication of the critical missing piece, the pipe that connects the turbo to the throttle body. It will have to have a slight twist to put the TB in a good place near the master cylinder that will leave room for a conical air filter, It will have to have a straight run of 4" going into the mouth of the turbo, and the injectors will be mounted atop this pipe at an angle to shoot into the turbo vanes. It will also have to have a mount for the fuel pressure regulator and a port for the gulp valve. The Sunday drive was perfect, over 30MPG, good boost response, and with the cam timing adjusted to 106 from the poor performing 110deg., the plugs were clean and perfectly colored. If it weren't for the slight knock on hard boost, I'd wonder why I'm bothering to mess with a very good setup. The goal is to get a bit closer to perfection. If a seat-of-the-pants,hand filed needle can yield this performance, what will a modern EFI do for it?? We'll soon see. No progress tonight though. We're celebrating the newly empty nest and going out for West-coast Swing dance lessons tonight. Glen Byrns From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Oct 11 12:38:58 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:38:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up In-Reply-To: <976894.85360.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <003001c80abe$0117f370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <976894.85360.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's okay, Ron. When you drive a 3-wheeled car around the country, you get used to people calling you a f- up. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:19 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wheel bearings Follow-up --- David Lieb wrote: > If you insist on using the spacer, > it accomplishes nothing > unless it is torqued into place Wow. This post was so nasty it was hard to get past much of it, but I do agree with the above snippet. Ron ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Oct 11 13:56:07 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:56:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post Message-ID: <001001c80c40$c5267010$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sorry about the double post on the EFI. Looks like the e-mail eaten by the campus server early this week has finally been puked out. Glen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 11 14:09:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] double post References: <001001c80c40$c5267010$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <008601c80c42$ad0ec3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Sorry about the double post on the EFI. Looks like the e-mail eaten by > the > campus server early this week has finally been puked out. Glen, Don't feel bad. I don't think it is your campus server. I have been seeing a lot of this on the List, so I imagine it is the List server feeling overworked. David From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 14:23:46 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:23:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <008601c80c42$ad0ec3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <001001c80c40$c5267010$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <008601c80c42$ad0ec3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710111323w3620209ej5b40d2565ec8975e@mail.gmail.com> I haven't seen anything like that from my end. When is the last time you guys saw an optometrist? ;-) "I keep seeing spots in front of my eyes!" "Did you see a doctor" "Nope. Just spots"... - Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 11 14:30:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:30:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post Message-ID: <380-220071041120308531@earthlink.net> Jim Johnson wrote: "I keep seeing spots in front of my eyes!" , "Did you see a doctor" , "Nope. Just spots"... Jim, at this point in our nation's history, we are in the midst of a major crisis. We have over 500,000 unemployed stand-up comedians. If this is the best you can do, please this of your country's welfare and keep your day job. It cannot afford 500,001! Silas P. Gumbody Arbiter of Humor Bald Knob, Arkansas From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 14:36:59 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <380-220071041120308531@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071041120308531@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710111336u5c1a4411g73635053dc0c453e@mail.gmail.com> Cheez! Some of you Arkies have no sense of humor! ;-) Jim On 10/11/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Jim Johnson wrote: "I keep seeing spots in front of my eyes!" > , "Did you see a doctor" > , "Nope. Just spots"... > > Jim, at this point in our nation's history, we are in the midst of a major > crisis. We have over 500,000 unemployed stand-up comedians. If this is > the best you can do, please this of your country's welfare and keep your day > job. It cannot afford 500,001! > > Silas P. Gumbody > Arbiter of Humor > Bald Knob, Arkansas -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From cfchrist at earthlink.net Thu Oct 11 14:41:12 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:41:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] double post Message-ID: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> see spots? hmm , see spot run go spot go! sounds like a canine problem....... chuck. finally recovered from the latest surgery.....(yeah i know! , i'm not accident prone , i'm a victim of circumstances!) (note: standard , all lower case letters! ;) ) -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson >Sent: Oct 11, 2007 4:23 PM >To: David Lieb >Cc: Spridget List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] double post > >I haven't seen anything like that from my end. When is the last time >you guys saw an optometrist? ;-) > >"I keep seeing spots in front of my eyes!" >"Did you see a doctor" >"Nope. Just spots"... From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Oct 11 16:02:37 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:02:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws Message-ID: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I have been looking for replacement screws for the idle and fast idle settings on a pair of HS2's. #6 is too loose and #8's are too big. I looked through the metric bin at the hardware store and couldn't find anything that would fit their either. Anybody know what they are supposed to be? BTW, I did find that the butterfly's are #5-40. McMaster had those in stock.... Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com 58 "Bugeye" 66 TR4A S2-27 WB0NOO From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 16:08:05 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:08:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws References: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <012501c80c53$33854510$6601a8c0@actualshop> BSF and YOU should know that, Mark!! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 16:47:19 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:47:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I hope you recover quickly. I had that done when I was a child, and I couldn't walk for a year!!! On 10/11/07, charles christ wrote: (yeah i know! , i'm not accident prone , i'm a victim of circumcision!) -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Oct 11 17:18:21 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:18:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws References: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <006201c80c5d$040d4710$1da1bf46@personal> Thought all our screws and bolts were SAE? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws >I have been looking for replacement screws for the idle and fast idle > settings on a pair of HS2's. #6 is too loose and #8's are too big. I > looked through the metric bin at the hardware store and couldn't find > anything that would fit their either. Anybody know what they are supposed > to be? BTW, I did find that the butterfly's are #5-40. McMaster had > those > in stock.... > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > 58 "Bugeye" > 66 TR4A > S2-27 > WB0NOO > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: > 10/10/2007 8:43 AM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 11 17:36:32 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:36:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I didn't get a double post. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 11 17:36:40 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I didn't get a double post. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 11 17:36:50 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:36:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <25270500.1192135272673.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I didn't get a double post. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 11 17:39:06 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws In-Reply-To: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: > #6 is too loose and #8's are too big. Find a screw you like and tap the hole to fit it. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 11 18:00:36 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] more EFI progress In-Reply-To: <000601c80a95$3b305fd0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <696930.57511.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Glen Byrns wrote: > We're celebrating the > newly empty nest and going > out for West-coast Swing I haven't seen that since they started blocking websites at work. Ron ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 19:19:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:19:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws In-Reply-To: <006201c80c5d$040d4710$1da1bf46@personal> References: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200> <006201c80c5d$040d4710$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <470ECBB7.3010309@comcast.net> Jack Laird wrote: > Thought all our screws and bolts were SAE? All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 11 19:19:34 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws Message-ID: <380-220071051211934843@earthlink.net> Jack Laird wrote: "Thought all our screws and bolts were SAE?" Frank Clarici wrote: "All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth." And Whitworths were impossible to find, so we just used our Tijuana Whitworths. (Crescent wrench.) Buste From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 21:05:16 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws References: <380-220071051211934843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <02cf01c80c7c$b736f790$6601a8c0@actualshop> God, I LOVE it when a (non) plan comes together!!! Frank Clarici wrote: "All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth." WRONG oh "master" of O.S.H.I.T.!!! Dat stuff is BS(mostly F )!!! Buster Evans wrote: "And Whitworths were impossible to find, so we just used our Tijuana Whitworths. (Crescent wrench.)" Which, of course, is totally UN-necessary!! IIRC, 19/32 INCH ignition wrench fits perfectly on the Carb Linkage nuts & bolts. Now NO ONE has said where the Whitworth fasteners ARE??? Enquiring minds and all dat....................... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 11 21:12:56 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws References: <005a01c80c52$6fec5530$0600a8c0@Dell9200><006201c80c5d$040d4710$1da1bf46@personal> <470ECBB7.3010309@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004401c80c7d$c9977210$0301a8c0@midget> > Jack Laird wrote: >> Thought all our screws and bolts were SAE? > > All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth. A little more involved than that. The screws specced by MG are all nice standard BSF and BSC (or is that UNF and UNC?). Assemblies brought in from other companies, however, followed whatever standard that company had adopted. Therefore, SU carbs, Armstrong Shocks, whoever's fuel tank, etc were frequently Whitworth or some other strange alternate standard. David Lieb From endicar at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 21:54:49 2007 From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:54:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws In-Reply-To: <02cf01c80c7c$b736f790$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <380-220071051211934843@earthlink.net> <02cf01c80c7c$b736f790$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006401c80c83$a3593240$0401a8c0@nc6000> > God, I LOVE it when a (non) plan comes together!!! > > Frank Clarici wrote: "All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth." > > WRONG oh "master" of O.S.H.I.T.!!! Dat stuff is BS(mostly F )!!! > > Buster Evans wrote: "And Whitworths were impossible to find, so we just > used > our Tijuana Whitworths. (Crescent wrench.)" > > Which, of course, is totally UN-necessary!! IIRC, 19/32 INCH ignition > wrench > fits perfectly on the Carb Linkage nuts & bolts. > > Now NO ONE has said where the Whitworth fasteners ARE??? http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=33922 > > Enquiring minds and all dat....................... From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Oct 11 21:55:49 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:55:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post References: Message-ID: <012a01c80c83$c85ac4a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Feeling left out? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] double post > I didn't get a double post. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Oct 11 21:58:35 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:58:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post References: <001001c80c40$c5267010$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <008601c80c42$ad0ec3e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <013201c80c84$2b7407e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> I've been experiencing a lot of next day delivery of posts that arrive from Spridgets @ Autox.team , Wonder why that's happening? Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Glen Byrns" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] double post > > Sorry about the double post on the EFI. Looks like the e-mail eaten by > > the > > campus server early this week has finally been puked out. > > Glen, > Don't feel bad. I don't think it is your campus server. I have been seeing a > lot of this on the List, so I imagine it is the List server feeling > overworked. > David From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 11 22:01:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:01:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws In-Reply-To: <006401c80c83$a3593240$0401a8c0@nc6000> References: <380-220071051211934843@earthlink.net> <02cf01c80c7c$b736f790$6601a8c0@actualshop> <006401c80c83$a3593240$0401a8c0@nc6000> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710112101g20a29c55leecf890550b39e57@mail.gmail.com> So, it is true, Mo$$ does sell BS. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 11 22:03:01 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <013201c80c84$2b7407e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <507912.77310.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > I've been experiencing a lot of next day delivery of > posts that arrive from > Spridgets @ Autox.team , Wonder why that's > happening? We probably covered that yesterday but you didn't get it yet. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 11 22:49:01 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:49:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post Message-ID: <380-22007105124491156@earthlink.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: "I've been experiencing a lot of next day delivery of posts that arrive from Spridgets @ Autox.team , Wonder why that's happening?" Perhaps we are getting what we have paid for! Maybe we all need to send Mark a contribution, not only to show our gratitude, but to help on the equipment end as well. Buste From hal at katemuir.com Thu Oct 11 23:52:18 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:52:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: <507912.77310.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, This post was worthy of jay. Hal "We probably covered that yesterday but you didn't get it yet." From grday at btinternet.com Fri Oct 12 01:32:02 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:32:02 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws References: <380-220071051211934843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005e01c80ca1$fbdea6c0$62988d56@tairswork> F.F.S. ! :-) Let me know what you want and I'll pop down to my local nut & bolt store and get them. They also sell the spanners / keys for turning them round. Virtually any size or thread you want. I've even got a distant relative (on my wife's side) who is a salesman for a Midlands (UK) company who still makes Whitworth sized stuff. His company sells them over the net. Do you want them in bucket or barrow sized parcels...... ? Moving into serious mode, if you do want any nuts & bolts or appropriate spanners let me know. I'll try to get them, no guarantees - but I'll be very disappointed if I don't. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Frank Clarici" ; "Jack Laird" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Screws > Jack Laird wrote: "Thought all our screws and bolts were SAE?" > > Frank Clarici wrote: "All but the fuel system. That is still Whitworth." > > And Whitworths were impossible to find, so we just used our Tijuana > Whitworths. (Crescent wrench.) > > Buste > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kkkwake at yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 04:06:42 2007 From: kkkwake at yahoo.com (kevin kwake) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problems? Message-ID: <268699.25507.qm@web62405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I just got my first midget, 1979 1500. Everything works good so far except.. after the car has been running for approximately 20 to 30 minutes, the clutch makes all kinds of noise when the pedal is pushed. Clanking, and the car starts stalling out. Engine runs strong until this starts to happen. Then if I shut the car down for awhile it is fine again. Do I need a new clutch kit? Kevin Kwake Mortgage Banker/Broker Republic Mortgage 623-322-8045 office 623-398-6894 fax --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 05:10:06 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:10:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] double post In-Reply-To: References: <507912.77310.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710120410y5495d8b4m8329d0878131571c@mail.gmail.com> A double post is a football receiver route. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 05:11:33 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:11:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problems? In-Reply-To: <268699.25507.qm@web62405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <268699.25507.qm@web62405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710120411u6fff3a61j3e800c8f002331d6@mail.gmail.com> Uh oh. Could that be the dreaded thrust bearing syndrome? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 05:54:58 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:54:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problems? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710120411u6fff3a61j3e800c8f002331d6@mail.gmail.com> References: <268699.25507.qm@web62405.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910710120411u6fff3a61j3e800c8f002331d6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: WITH THE ENGINE OFF!! Put a pry bar between the front pulley and the cross member. Pry the pulley back towards the engine. Now, have someone get into the car, and depress the clutch. If the pulley moves forward, you need to replace your thrust washers. Since I don't know much else about the 1500, you will need to wait till the RB owners get online to give more pertinent information. Brad On 10/12/07, derf wrote: > Uh oh. Could that be the dreaded thrust bearing syndrome? > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 12 08:08:36 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:08:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Carol? Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071012090453.03438638@mailbag.com> Some of you older listers will remember Carol Coulter. Red BE at Spree03 and earlier. Anyone hear from her lately? Peter C From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Fri Oct 12 08:10:37 2007 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:10:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Men and their toys - LBC content Message-ID: <005a01c80cd9$aad791f0$3c2ce142@owner7ccec1fe9> First post in a long time and thought the group might like to see these creations. www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/41225 I visit "ebaumsworld" just about everyday to keep track of the wild, wacky world we live in, plus there is always a pretty good "joke of the day". There is enough stuff in the archives to keep you entertained for days. Neil Anderson '59 Bugeye '60 BT7 From britcrs at mac.com Fri Oct 12 08:33:11 2007 From: britcrs at mac.com (Marvin James) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:33:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws Message-ID: <25AFCB7A-EEA3-4D1F-B51A-93279734BBC7@mac.com> Most of the fine thread fasteners with heads sized for Whitworth wrenches are BSF or British Standard Fine. Once in awhile, not often, you will run across a coarse thread that takes a Whitworth wrench. Those are most often BSW or British Standard Whitworth. There is also a BSC which you would think is British Standard Coarse but its not. It's British Standard Cycle and is a fine thread, most (regardless of size) are 26 threads per inch. There is also BA (British Association), a small size series found in elctrical parts and, I think, some places on SU carb linkage. For you MGT people, there's Nuffield metric but that's for another day. A good source for these fasteners and tools in British Tools and Fasteners at www.britishfasteners.com (NFI) In response to the original question, Moss has the screws you are looking for. Tools too but they are pretty pricey. Marv J From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 12 09:12:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:12:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Screws Message-ID: <380-220071051215128562@earthlink.net> Marvin James wrote: " In response to the original question, Moss has the screws you are looking for." I have restrained myself from making the expected comment. I will let Frank make it. "Tools too but they are pretty pricey." That's why you resort to the Tiajuana Whitworth (Crescent wrench.) Buste From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Oct 12 10:39:59 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:39:59 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 34 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/11/2007 5:38:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: chuck. finally recovered from the latest surgery.....( Chuck, I've been off the list...what happened? You OK big guy..? Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From RampantNM at aol.com Fri Oct 12 10:41:49 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:41:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 34 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/11/2007 5:38:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: i'm a victim of circumcision!) Oops...missed that part...nevermind. Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From richb at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 12 12:46:56 2007 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:46:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch problems? Message-ID: <003901c80d00$436d3250$1be25f80@psych.washington.edu> If it turns out to be your thrust washers this article I found on the web may help you out. It covers replacing the 1500's main bearings while the engine is in the car. Steps 31 through 35 refer to replacing the thrust washers. http://members.core.com/~ckotting/1500_bearings.html Rich '76 Midget From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 13:20:45 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:20:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pit Crew... Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> One I've never seen.... Herb http://www.brightcove.tv/title.jsp?title=987227390 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 13:32:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:32:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pit Crew... In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710121232h6e452849mfe14f3af8ba4aa1b@mail.gmail.com> That one has been discussed. Probably too long lug nuts that bottomed out or over torquing of lug nuts or defective studs. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 12 14:29:18 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:29:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pit Crew... References: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710121232h6e452849mfe14f3af8ba4aa1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c101c80d0e$90ff8ff0$0301a8c0@midget> My gut feeling is that this was the first time the guy had brought race rubber to the track with him and he got distracted while changing the tires. If you look closely, you will see that they found most of the lugnuts and they were empty of broken studs. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 14:56:37 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:56:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pit Crew... In-Reply-To: <00c101c80d0e$90ff8ff0$0301a8c0@midget> References: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710121232h6e452849mfe14f3af8ba4aa1b@mail.gmail.com> <00c101c80d0e$90ff8ff0$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710121356w28931177wdb21613a72c33db1@mail.gmail.com> On 10/12/07, David Lieb wrote: > My gut feeling is that this was the first time the guy had brought race > rubber to the track with him and he got distracted while changing the tires. > If you look closely, you will see that they found most of the lugnuts and > they were empty of broken studs. I think if that were the case then he would have lost one wheel. He probably over torqued them. I'm sure someone did the tech check and made sure they were torqued, but they don't test to see if they are too tight. Could be a combination of things. I'll watch it again but I though the studs were broken off when they showed the rotors. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 15:00:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pit Crew... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710121356w28931177wdb21613a72c33db1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10710121220s4d7836c0nb42cdc08f9ed8ec1@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710121232h6e452849mfe14f3af8ba4aa1b@mail.gmail.com> <00c101c80d0e$90ff8ff0$0301a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910710121356w28931177wdb21613a72c33db1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710121400k1f32c1d6w8d5905b77339254d@mail.gmail.com> No, the studs are still on the rotors. Maybe they got their lug nuts from Horrible Frait or Pep Boys. From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 15:12:01 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what the heck car is this?! Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710121412k13f2718ck724e3b43c3d30f7e@mail.gmail.com> anyone seen this before? It looks stupid. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Slava Yanson Date: Oct 12, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Fwd: the car To: thefirebuilds at gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Olga Streltsova Date: Oct 12, 2007 2:04 PM Subject: the car To: Slava Yanson here it is -- Thank You, Slava Yanson AIM: UrbanSoot ICQ: 240498134 -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 101107180214.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 101107180226.jpg] From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Oct 12 15:39:57 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sender Orientation Message-ID: <24e7ca63519a5c436a600ffa.20071012143957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I just got a Bugeye tank restored by Re-Nuzit and I have one of the new sending units that actually work (ie., not from Moss). Might be a silly question, but which way should you orient the float and lever? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 15:52:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:52:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what the heck car is this?! In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0710121412k13f2718ck724e3b43c3d30f7e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0710121412k13f2718ck724e3b43c3d30f7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710121452gaaad06fped9bb08760ac941e@mail.gmail.com> That's one of those invisible cars. Or, you can't send attachments to the spridget list. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 15:55:02 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:55:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sender Orientation In-Reply-To: <24e7ca63519a5c436a600ffa.20071012143957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <24e7ca63519a5c436a600ffa.20071012143957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710121455l3274a11eqce40de3384cf4063@mail.gmail.com> The way the old one came out. Are there not offset notches that only let it go in one way? I've never done a Bugeye but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express before. From hal at katemuir.com Fri Oct 12 17:46:52 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:46:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now here's one Frank can really make a difference on!! Message-ID: http://preview.tinyurl.com/39s9p7. or http://tinyurl.com/39s9p7 My guess is about 2 weeks 'cuz he's going to have to make some parts! Hal From gmari2 at verizon.net Fri Oct 12 18:00:25 2007 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Carol? Message-ID: <26554158.9955041192233625466.JavaMail.root@vms246.mailsrvcs.net> Peter, I spoke with Carole a number of months ago. She was fine, enjoying being a mom. I seem to recall that she had some issues with the car...can't remember quite what the issues were though. george marinos >From: Peter C >Date: 2007/10/12 Fri AM 09:08:36 CDT >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Carol? >Some of you older listers will remember Carol Coulter. Red BE at >Spree03 and earlier. Anyone hear from her lately? > >Peter C >_______________________________________________ >gmari2 at verizon.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets George Marinos From nory1 at adelphia.net Fri Oct 12 21:05:42 2007 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:05:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Where is Carol? In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071012090453.03438638@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071012090453.03438638@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <5B34F552-1BDE-415F-B065-5AF6ECF44435@adelphia.net> Is that the same Carol that did the Alaska run with Barney & co several years back (I never knew her last name)? If it is, maybe Barney knows how to reach her. I haven't heard from her in ages. -Nory On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Peter C wrote: > Some of you older listers will remember Carol Coulter. Red BE at > Spree03 and earlier. Anyone hear from her lately? > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > nory1 at adelphia.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Oct 12 22:19:57 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update Message-ID: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I finally got the domed nut off to inspect the spring and cup of the oil pressure bypass assembly. I bought a cheap 1 inch socket and had to grind the sh*t out of it to get it on the nut. When I pulled the spring out the cup came out with a little twisting and looked fine. No ridge where it might have stuck in the seat. It slid up the bore with no problem so I don't suspect the cup, but the spring is a another matter. When I measured it, the free length was 2 and 15/16ths. The correct length for a 1275 spring is 2.86" or 2 and 55/64ths. the spring in the engine was closer in length to an MGB spring which bypasses at 70 PSI. The 1275 spring is supposed to relieve at 50 PSI. Yesterday I ordered a new cup, spring and 2 copper washers for replacements. The package arrived today, but instead of a spring a flat washer with a flat side to lock it in place was in the bag with the spring part number. The kind of washer on connecting rods. So I don't have a spring to compare yet. They say they are sending me a spring on Monday and I should get it by Tuesday. Good old Moss. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 12 22:37:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:37:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update In-Reply-To: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com> I don't mean to hijack your thread but I don't understand why anyone would call Mo$$ unless they absolutely have no alternative. PPP (Peter C) can get you the same or better stuff, cheaper, with better customer service. If PPP is not to your liking, Paul A can get most things. If PPP and Paul are not to your liking, Ed would love to help you get what your LBC needs. I have never had a problem with VB or Mo$$. But, I think getting parts from a fellow list member is definitely a better way to go. Just look up the stuff in the Mo$$ or VB catalog and then call WW or surf over to www.nosimport.com and give them a try. Or, try justbrits.com. Like I said I never had a problem with the big two usual suspects. But, I have heard horror stories. I've never heard anything bad about PPP, at least not where parts and customer service are concerned. Cheers, Derf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Oct 12 22:44:24 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com> References: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11880a2f2e0a2bd40a2da20a.20071012214424.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Derf, It was simple 3 part order that I wanted delivered the next day and it was, just with an incorrect part. I don't usually have a problem with Moss or VB either. The same day I ordered I was trying to get the parts at APT which is 5 minutes from my house. They did not happen to have any springs in stock, so I just phoned Moss from my car and ordered the parts. No big deal. I have ordered from people on the list and will continue to do so. I think Peter, Paul and Ed can forgive me this once. Mike derf > I don't mean to hijack your thread but I don't understand why anyone > would call Mo$$ unless they absolutely have no alternative. > PPP (Peter C) can get you the same or better stuff, cheaper, with > better customer service. > If PPP is not to your liking, Paul A can get most things. > If PPP and Paul are not to your liking, Ed would love to help you get > what your LBC needs. > > I have never had a problem with VB or Mo$$. But, I think getting > parts from a fellow list member is definitely a better way to go. > Just look up the stuff in the Mo$$ or VB catalog and then call WW or > surf over to www.nosimport.com and give them a try. Or, try > justbrits.com. Like I said I never had a problem with the big two > usual suspects. But, I have heard horror stories. I've never heard > anything bad about PPP, at least not where parts and customer service > are concerned. > Cheers, > Derf From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 12 23:01:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:01:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sender Orientation References: <24e7ca63519a5c436a600ffa.20071012143957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <010601c80d56$2a4172e0$0301a8c0@midget> Hey, if the sender cannot figure out their own orientation, I think it is too late for the List to help ;-) From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Oct 13 07:47:52 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:47:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update References: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com> <11880a2f2e0a2bd40a2da20a.20071012214424.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <000a01c80d9f$a68b0930$1da1bf46@personal> Peter, Paul and Ed. Sounds like an old style Rock group. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "derf" Cc: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update > Derf, > It was simple 3 part order that I wanted delivered the next day and it > was, just with an incorrect part. I don't usually have a problem with > Moss or VB either. The same day I ordered I was trying to get the > parts at APT which is 5 minutes from my house. They did not happen to > have any springs in stock, so I just phoned Moss from my car and > ordered the parts. No big deal. I have ordered from people on the > list and will continue to do so. I think Peter, Paul and Ed can > forgive me this once. > Mike > > > derf >> I don't mean to hijack your thread but I don't understand why anyone >> would call Mo$$ unless they absolutely have no alternative. >> PPP (Peter C) can get you the same or better stuff, cheaper, with >> better customer service. >> If PPP is not to your liking, Paul A can get most things. >> If PPP and Paul are not to your liking, Ed would love to help you get >> what your LBC needs. >> >> I have never had a problem with VB or Mo$$. But, I think getting >> parts from a fellow list member is definitely a better way to go. >> Just look up the stuff in the Mo$$ or VB catalog and then call WW or >> surf over to www.nosimport.com and give them a try. Or, try >> justbrits.com. Like I said I never had a problem with the big two >> usual suspects. But, I have heard horror stories. I've never heard >> anything bad about PPP, at least not where parts and customer service >> are concerned. >> Cheers, >> Derf > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1066 - Release Date: > 10/12/2007 11:10 AM From bpazur at excel.net Sat Oct 13 08:42:41 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:42:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sender Orientation References: <24e7ca63519a5c436a600ffa.20071012143957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <5f00d9910710121455l3274a11eqce40de3384cf4063@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000701c80da7$4fe6e290$26e867d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Derf - I got your reference - 'The Sentinel' - one of my favorite movies. Bud Mr. White - 1275 Street Bugeye SilverStreak - 1275 Race Sprite ************************************************************************ "The Buddha... resides as comfortably in the gears of a...transmission as he does in the petals of a flower" - Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sender Orientation > The way the old one came out. > Are there not offset notches that only let it go in one way? > I've never done a Bugeye but I have stayed in a Holiday Inn Express before. > _______________________________________________ > bpazur at excel.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spridget63 at verizon.net Sat Oct 13 08:30:02 2007 From: spridget63 at verizon.net (DANIEL WALTERS) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] what the heck car is this?! References: <8a336b9d0710121412k13f2718ck724e3b43c3d30f7e@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710121452gaaad06fped9bb08760ac941e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c80da5$8c0f0a60$6500a8c0@clients.am.health.ge.com> I can safely say I've never seen car before :) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 13 08:49:49 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update References: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com><11880a2f2e0a2bd40a2da20a.20071012214424.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <000a01c80d9f$a68b0930$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <050201c80da8$4e811b90$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: ; "derf" Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update Peter, Paul and Ed. Sounds like an old style Rock group. ====================== Mary's looks haven't stood the test of time very well. From millerls at ado13.com Sat Oct 13 15:35:39 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:35:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Title Message-ID: <013301c80de1$00630070$d280bc43@HP> Anybody got a Bugeye title they want to sell? If yes, contact me off list at millerls at ado13.com Thanks Larry From RampantNM at aol.com Sat Oct 13 17:04:26 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:04:26 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 38 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/13/2007 12:07:35 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Peter, Paul and Ed. Sounds like an old style Rock group. ====================== Mary's looks haven't stood the test of time very well. Neither have Ed's....................... RH ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 17:11:13 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:11:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics Message-ID: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67b http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67c -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Oct 13 17:39:39 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:39:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200710132333.l9DNX4d5004739@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> Wild! There is nothing like the low fall sun to project large shadows through a holey floor. Those are some nasty tires too! Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:11 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67b http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67c -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 18:25:27 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:25:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 38 References: Message-ID: <018001c80df8$b91041c0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> And THERE folks IS the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!!! Remember, I have met RB IN El Paso!! And when was the last time ANYBODY saw a sweater vest??? LMAO, RB!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 13 18:29:27 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 38 References: <018001c80df8$b91041c0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <014c01c80df9$47dd1c70$0301a8c0@midget> > And THERE folks IS the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!!! Remember, I have > met > RB IN El Paso!! And when was the last time ANYBODY saw a sweater vest??? And he woulda met you there at much the same time... Are you asking us to believe that someone in El Paso even knows what a sweater vest is? What is it, anyway? From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 18:52:26 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:52:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Diesel Power, Anyone? Message-ID: <5f00d9910710131752q511d798cy502948ec6340f6ba@mail.gmail.com> In case you need to re-power your entire county. Just think what Mo$$ would charge for parts for this: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ccsshb/12cyl/ Cheers, Derf From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 20:10:04 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:10:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 38 References: <018001c80df8$b91041c0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <014c01c80df9$47dd1c70$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <01c301c80e07$5604e360$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Not sureDavid, he DOES live in NM!! << What is it, anyway? >> sweater vest is to sweater AS sandles are to shoes!! LMAO!! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 20:19:24 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:19:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic is fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? Lester ..if not just send 'em if you don't mind.. On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:11 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67a > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67b > http://home.comcast.net/~spritenut/67c > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From kevin at valentinephoto.net Sat Oct 13 20:24:19 2007 From: kevin at valentinephoto.net (K. Valentine) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:24:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: > Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic is > fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code. Kevin From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 20:29:11 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:29:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710131929q444f4d6breb228d1532e1315c@mail.gmail.com> Download them and open them with the picture viewer. From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 20:31:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:31:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Shelby Twsp, MI? Message-ID: <5f00d9910710131931h7b65d54j4e75104a2d5757c5@mail.gmail.com> This may sound queer, but I need someone who can pickup and ship a lawn mower to me. Let me know. Cheers, Derf From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 20:56:22 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> Message-ID: <47118556.8010907@comcast.net> K. Valentine wrote: > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: > >> Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic is >> fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? > > > They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code. They work with internet exploder. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sat Oct 13 21:10:08 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:10:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net><7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net><7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> <47118556.8010907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00cf01c80e0f$baac4710$6601a8c0@actualshop> Frank: Go back and ADD .jpg to each one. Known as "Incomplete "tag"". Ed From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Oct 13 22:16:51 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:16:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net><7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net><7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> <47118556.8010907@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000e01c80e19$0be6de70$1da1bf46@personal> Works fine for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "K. Valentine" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics > K. Valentine wrote: >> >> On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: >> >>> Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic is >>> fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? >> >> >> They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code. > > They work with internet exploder. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1066 - Release Date: > 10/12/2007 11:10 AM From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 22:52:08 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:52:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] High Oil Pressure Update References: <11faca3062da2cf2ea2eccba.20071012211957.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com><5f00d9910710122137t1d89c837y5e687e1015ca248c@mail.gmail.com> <11880a2f2e0a2bd40a2da20a.20071012214424.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <00aa01c80e1d$fa3ea8b0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Guess I'll answer for all 3 of us, Mike. He|| NO!!! LOL, of course.!!! All that said, I might suggest to all that there are (and will continue to be) MANY instances where one of us would actually be able to physically check and CONFIRM that we have IS what you want and in our hands, not just listed in a computer as "in-stock". I will ALWAYS tell a customer if I do not care for a given part which may or may not be ok to use. But the discussion comes FIRST. Dat just CANNOT be done with either Moss or V/B. And although I really can't speak for either Paul or Peter, I feel very confident that none of our S & H charges even approach V/B's!! From nases at verizon.net Sun Oct 14 07:02:06 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:02:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project Message-ID: <001301c80e62$6c6aedb0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> I think Frank could do this in a Spridget version. I have a chassis you could use Frank. http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Oct 14 07:10:59 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:10:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project References: <001301c80e62$6c6aedb0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <001d01c80e63$aad3d660$0301a8c0@midget> >I think Frank could do this in a Spridget version. I have a chassis you > could use Frank. > > http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php Yeah, Frank, I need one of those. I could use my Midget to tow it to the autocross. From r_l_campion at hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 07:17:28 2007 From: r_l_campion at hotmail.com (Bob & Linda) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:17:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net><7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net><7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net><47118556.8010907@comcast.net> <000e01c80e19$0be6de70$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: Worked fine for me too. Wait till you see them, Frank's got his work cut out for him again. Take a hard look at the tires, ha,ha Bob Campion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "Frank Clarici" ; "K. Valentine" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics Works fine for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "K. Valentine" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics > K. Valentine wrote: >> >> On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: >> >>> Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic is >>> fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? >> >> >> They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code. > > They work with internet exploder. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1066 - Release Date: > 10/12/2007 11:10 AM _______________________________________________ r_l_campion at hotmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From r_l_campion at hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 07:21:32 2007 From: r_l_campion at hotmail.com (Bob & Linda) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:21:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project References: <001301c80e62$6c6aedb0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> <001d01c80e63$aad3d660$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: He's already got the slicks. Bob Campion ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project >I think Frank could do this in a Spridget version. I have a chassis you > could use Frank. > > http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php Yeah, Frank, I need one of those. I could use my Midget to tow it to the autocross. _______________________________________________ r_l_campion at hotmail.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Oct 14 08:20:45 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:20:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <47118556.8010907@comcast.net> References: <47115091.6090002@comcast.net> <7C6BC6AD-9807-4873-BE12-10CA555172C3@comcast.net> <7D40A5B8-564B-4C37-A07B-2BFA0F2DAEFE@valentinephoto.net> <47118556.8010907@comcast.net> Message-ID: Kev, Safari downloads them. THen just add .jpg to the downloaded file name and Preview will open them. Frank, please add the file name extensions, THanks Larry Sending this from Sunny Arizona On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > K. Valentine wrote: >> >> On Oct 13, 2007, at 10:19 PM, oldsaabguy wrote: >> >>> Ok, all I get is jibberish.. if I go back to "spritenut" that pic >>> is >>> fine but the others aren't.. any ideas? >> >> >> They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code. > > They work with internet exploder. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 14 09:10:59 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:10:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project References: <001301c80e62$6c6aedb0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <00ee01c80e74$6e182350$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project I think Frank could do this in a Spridget version. I have a chassis you could use Frank. http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa ============================= Those would be perfect for the Dream Farm 500 at SOS this year. LAD From RampantNM at aol.com Sun Oct 14 12:30:07 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:30:07 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 40 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/14/2007 12:01:25 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Larry Sending this from Sunny Arizona Yo Larry, what cha doing nearby??? Bet you didn't drive though... Robert H. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 14:23:19 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:23:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Charlie Braum Message-ID: <43840a7e0710141323nadb14fbw5207e54c58dc203d@mail.gmail.com> Just had a nice visit from Charlie Braum on his way through the area headed home from Portland. Too bad he couldn't stay longer but we did manage to generate some really good lies for the next time one or both of us gets to meet up with some other Spridgeteers! ;-) We spent about an hour down in the garage swapping stories, kicking tires, and getting acquainted before he had to leave. Nice guy! He's trying to fix his work schedule so he can come to Lake of the Ozarks in June! Maybe tag up with some of the others coming in from the northeast since he lives in the Pittsburgh area. We decided that the "50 Years of Spridgets" celebration is really starting to shape up into a terrific event as more and more of the O.S.H.I.T. and BusterCluster crew sign on! There's also a group of folks attending the SOS in Wisconsin that is starting to plan on coming! Yahoo!! 8 1/2 months to go and I can hardly wait! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 15:42:15 2007 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] This is pretty graphic, but important to see. Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10710141442o69447ab9h99876680744ef2fe@mail.gmail.com> *Show this to your friends, family,* children, grand children or great children This young lady was recently on Oprah and what a loving, forgiving young woman she is ! An amazing story of what she has suffered and will bear the rest of her life. Please share this with your friends and especially your teenagers who are driving. [image: []] This is Jacqueline Saburido on September 19, 1999. [image: []] This is she and her Father, 1998. [image: []] This is she on Vacation in Venezuela. [image: []] Her Birthday party as a child. [image: []] At a party with friends. [image: []] The car in which Jacqueline traveled. She was hit by another car that was driven by a 17-year old male student on his way home after drinking! a couple of hard packs with his friends. This was in December 1999. [image: []] Jacqueline was caught in the burning car and her body was heavily burnt during around 45 seconds. After the accident Jacqueline has needed over 40 operations. [image: []] With her Father, 2000. [image: []] Getting treatment. < BR> [image: []] Three months after accident. [image: []] Without a left eyelid Jacquie needs eye drops to keep her vision. [image: []] Now 20 years old, he cannot forgive himself for driving drunk on that night three years ago. He's aware of devastating Jacqueline Saburidos life. [image: []] Not everyone who gets hit with a car dies. This picture was taken 4 years after the accident and the doctors are still working on Jacqueline, whose body was covered with 60% severe burns. Let's make as many people as we can aware of the consequences of drinking & driving. PLEASE PASS THIS MAIL TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473772.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473723.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473985.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473927.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473abd.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 4735fb.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 47386c.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473a02.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 4737cf.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 4736d5.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473678.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 4738c9.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 473a60.jpg] From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 16:13:44 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:13:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] This is pretty graphic, but important to see. Message-ID: <380-2200710014221344421@earthlink.net> WFO Herb wrote: "Not everyone who gets hit with a car dies. This picture was taken 4 years after the accident and the doctors are still working on Jacqueline, whose body was covered with 60% severe burns. Let's make as many people as we can aware of the consequences of drinking & driving." Most people do not know why I have at times lost the control of my anger when it comes to alcohol and driving. Those who know me well enough understand it dates to the days when I was a cop in one of the busiest traffic areas of Southern California. My friends, I encountered first hand and was drenched with the blood of too many like Jacqueline Saburido; too many whose lives were forever changed, if not ended. Those responsible were not only teenage boys trying to prove their manhood by boozing it up under the bleachers, then driving off. They were also the middle-aged women who had stopped at a bar with their girlfriends after work, and the elderly gentleman who had been sneaking swigs from his brown-bagged cloaked bottle down at the spit and lie club with his old friends. I would hope that no one would have to go through what I did in order to learn the lessons I did. So, please, DON'T try to mix booze and driving. DO demand that legislators place a higher cost on those who would, and DO demand that the judges in your area punish those who drink and drive to FULL extent of the law, and not just take away their library cards! Buste From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 14 16:34:18 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:34:18 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics Message-ID: The Holy Spridget arriveth, eh?! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sun Oct 14 17:20:33 2007 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:20:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Daimler Darts Message-ID: <000901c80eb8$d271bde0$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> List, I thought you chaps might like to see the attached picture of two Daimlers. Pretty, ain't they. They belong to a friend of mine in England. If you'd like any details, please, let me know, and I'll get answers from him. Michael [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Pair%201[1].JPG] From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Oct 14 18:58:10 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Daimler Darts In-Reply-To: <000901c80eb8$d271bde0$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <444343.9559.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Michael Conn wrote: > I thought you chaps might like to see the attached > picture of two Daimlers. Knowing that the list will not allow attachments, these are the best kind of Daimler Dart pictures - invisible ones. Ron From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 19:39:55 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:39:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge Message-ID: <380-220071011513955296@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: " these are the best kind of Daimler Dart pictures - invisible ones." OK, folks, here is a puzzler for which I have never found an acceptable answer. As we all know (or should know), Donald Healey was attached to the name "Sprite" for his new car. So, in order to use it, he had to buy rights to the name from Riley that had produced a "Sprite" for a couple of years before World War II. Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought out its own "Dart"! Within months, Daimler was forced to drop its use of the name "Dart" because Dodge had already owned the copyright to the name. The intriguing question then is how Daimler could have committed such an embarrassing blunder as to have anointed its hot new car with a name that had already been copyrighted by another company? Were the Daimler people simply lazy, incompetent, or too mired with the impending acquisition of Daimler by Jaguar? Incidentally, back in the "Golden Age", the compact Dodge Dart was caught up in the American hope to create a sports car market. It was small (albeit not as small as English cars), and it got better gas mileage (albeit not as good as the English cars). It was therefore considered by many Americans to be a "sports car". It even competed in many SCCA-sanctioned races, rallys, and autocrosses! Oh, and the London cops LOVED their Daimler Darts, complete with automatic transmissions!!!! Buster Evan From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 14 19:46:19 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:46:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Daimler Darts In-Reply-To: <444343.9559.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <444343.9559.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4712C66B.7080604@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > --- Michael Conn wrote: >> I thought you chaps might like to see the attached >> picture of two Daimlers. > > Knowing that the list will not allow attachments, > these are the best kind of Daimler Dart pictures - > invisible ones. Hey I tried to buy one of those blowfish looking cars way back when, The lady wouldn't sell it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 14 19:49:14 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:49:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge In-Reply-To: <380-220071011513955296@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071011513955296@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4712C71A.2080300@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when > Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought > out its own "Dart"! But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sun Oct 14 20:51:48 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:51:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge References: <380-220071011513955296@earthlink.net> <4712C71A.2080300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <015a01c80ed6$550db110$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Dem Joiseyites have GOT to wake-up someday (I hope)!!! 'Hopper From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun Oct 14 16:16:16 2007 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:16:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] This is pretty graphic, but important to see. In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10710141442o69447ab9h99876680744ef2fe@mail.gmail.co m> References: <2ad6c6b10710141442o69447ab9h99876680744ef2fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071014181420.047078c0@littlebitcountry.com> Try this link instead http://www.lenet3000.com/saburido/index.html Do you know we can not post pics to the list ? Dave From gmari2 at verizon.net Sun Oct 14 16:06:28 2007 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:06:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 4 sale 1965 Sprite Mark III Message-ID: <8855031.2862971192399590589.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net> Greetings Spridget List, I am forwarding the below email to ya'all for anyone who is interested. The usual disclaimers. I thionk the car is located in California. I have no other information. If interested please contact Chris McCoy directly at Chris at McCoyDesignFirm.com george marinos From: Chris McCoy >Date: 2007/10/14 Sun PM 01:57:57 CDT >To: gmari2 at verizon.net >Subject: 1965 Sprite Mark III > >George, >I have a '65 Sprite that has been garaged since 1991. >The car has not been driven since 1979. >I am the third owner. >I have pulled the engine & transmission &started a restoration. >The rear axle & front wheel assemblies are stillon the car. >Unfortunately, my schedule is not allowing me tocomplete this endeavor. >I am wondering if you would be able to put me touch w/someone who would like to purchase this from me as a project car. >I would rather it went to someone interested inrestoring it vs. just sending it to a junk yard. >I have enclosed some pictures to give you an idea ofthe condition it is in. >Please feel free to contact me w/ any questions orinfo that you may have. >Thanks for your time & help. >CBCB >The enginecompartment. Most rust seen is superficial & can be buffed or sanded away. > >CBCB > >CBCB > >CBCB >The number tag. Theengine & tranny are under my bench. Both were fully operational @ the timeof starting the restore, but probably need rebuild @ this time. > >CBCB >Front view. Thegrill is in excellent condition & in the trunk. YouCB"CBCBll it see it in alater image. A bit of twist in the front bumper. >Very good alignmentw/ the hood & front quarter panels. I donCB"CBCBt close it all the way dueto lube needed on the release cable. >Also needs a newfront emblem. > >CBCB >A shot of the riteside. Some body repair needed. Very good alignment on the doors. >CBCB >CBCB > >CBCB >The left side,again, needs some body work. The top also needs to be replaced but the tubeframe is still good. >The rear lenscovers are in a box. > >CBCB >A shot of the rear.Bumper in good shape. Rear trunk lid has good alignment & latch functionsvery well. > >CBCB >Inside the trunk.Here youCB"CBCBll see the front grill, gas tank misc. parts & panels, etc. > >CBCB >A view of the riteside from the rear. > >CBCB >The interior. Riteside. > >CBCB >Left side. Bothdoors & windows fully functional. > >CBCB >The interior fromthe rear. >All gauges were fullyfunctional @ the time of beginning the restoration. >The leather wrap onthe dash & top of doors is in excellent condition. Just a bit dusty. > >CBCB > >CBCB >The driverCB"CBCBsfloor pan has the most rust that I can see, but still fully repairable. >Also youCB"CBCBllnotice that the felt piping around the door openings needs repair. > >CBCB >The rear panel. > >CBCB >CBCB >CBCB >Respectfully, >Chris McCoy, CKD >McCoy DesignFirm, Inc. >970 926 5257 >Chris at McCoyDesignFirm.com > >CBCB George Marinos [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image003.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image004.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image005.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image006.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image007.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image008.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image009.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image010.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image011.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image012.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image013.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image014.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image015.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image016.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type IMAGE/JPEG which had a name of image017.jpg] From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Sun Oct 14 20:59:08 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge In-Reply-To: <4712C71A.2080300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <600612.68198.qm@web38914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What about the GOGO Dart made in Australia? That was late 50's too. Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when > Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought > out its own "Dart"! But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From hal at katemuir.com Sun Oct 14 23:41:50 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:41:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question Message-ID: While we're on the subject of bearing preload for tapered bearings... Has anyone ever set the preload on a spridget differential? The bearings in my p-n-p 3.9 were a bit rough so I disassembled and cleaned. Then reassembled using a new spacer (distance piece) of the appropriate collapsable type. When the diff was torqued to 120 and up to 140 per the manual there was a LOT of friction in the pinion bearings. Using a torque wrench it seems the preload is somewhere around 8 to 9 ft-lbs (or is it lb-ft?) somewhat shy of the recommended 11- 13 lb-ft, but this seems quite tight. I can't turn it by hand. Any thoughts or suggestions from out there in Spridget land? Hal From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 23:48:27 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:48:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710142248h5966279cva5fdcd9555a9a099@mail.gmail.com> i donno how a spridget is, but in the miata you have to set the lash side-to-side or it will bind like this. On 10/15/07, Hal Faulkner wrote: > > While we're on the subject of bearing preload for tapered bearings... > Has anyone ever set the preload on a spridget differential? The bearings > in > my p-n-p 3.9 were a bit rough so I disassembled and cleaned. Then > reassembled using a new spacer (distance piece) of the appropriate > collapsable type. When the diff was torqued to 120 and up to 140 per the > manual there was a LOT of friction in the pinion bearings. Using a torque > wrench it seems the preload is somewhere around 8 to 9 ft-lbs (or is it > lb-ft?) somewhat shy of the recommended 11- 13 lb-ft, but this seems quite > tight. I can't turn it by hand. Any thoughts or suggestions from out > there > in Spridget land? > > Hal > _______________________________________________ > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 18:14:04 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:14:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics Message-ID: <380-22007100140144906@earthlink.net> What gives, Frank? Are you beginning to slow down in your Golden Years? Wasn't there a time not long ago when you would just pass on this car because it would be too easy and no challenge to put into running condition? Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 20:25:32 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:25:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics Message-ID: <380-220071001422532515@earthlink.net> Kevin Valentine wrote: "They don't work for me either. All I get is a long page of code." Worked just find for me! Of course, as co-inventors of the Internet, it should be expected that Al Bore and I should have an advantage over you Luddites! Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 20:26:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:26:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Shelby Twsp, MI? Message-ID: <380-220071001422654171@earthlink.net> Derf wrote: "This may sound queer, but I need someone who can pickup and ship a lawn mower to me." You are absolutely right! Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 13:20:52 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:20:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project Message-ID: <380-2200710014192052359@earthlink.net> C'mon, people, we are talking about Frank Clarici here. He is not into racing. Now, Ron Soave.....? Buster Evans > [Original Message] > From: Larry Daniels > To: ; > Date: 10/14/2007 8:11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Nase" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:02 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Proposal for Franks next project > > > I think Frank could do this in a Spridget version. I have a chassis you > could use Frank. > > http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > > ============================= > > Those would be perfect for the Dream Farm 500 at SOS this year. > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > b-evans at earthlink.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 12 21:00:06 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:00:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now here's one Frank can really make a difference on!! Message-ID: <380-220071061330678@earthlink.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: "My guess is about...." I am not going to say anything about this car (OR its owner), because if I did, I am sure I would later regret what I said about both! (But talk about a *D* PO!!!! With an emphasis on *D*!!!) Buster From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 00:00:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:00:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0710142248h5966279cva5fdcd9555a9a099@mail.gmail.com> References: <8a336b9d0710142248h5966279cva5fdcd9555a9a099@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710142300o732178ar8ecf9614d211f2fb@mail.gmail.com> Are you sure the preload shouldn't be in inch pounds? Some Fords are set up with 20 or so inch pounds of preload. If you can't turn it by hand then you have something wrong. Is there any gear lash when you have the diff torqued? From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Mon Oct 15 00:36:31 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:36:31 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge In-Reply-To: <4712C71A.2080300@comcast.net> References: <380-220071011513955296@earthlink.net> <4712C71A.2080300@comcast.net> Message-ID: <005e01c80ef5$bab35370$3019fa50$@com> Was, Frank, not is. They've separated again after some years of financial losses caused by Chrysler. Best regards Eric http://brits-n-pieces.com Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when > Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought > out its own "Dart"! But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 15 06:04:38 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:04:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge Message-ID: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Here is one for you guys. In the early '60s, there was a sports car made in Africa but designed in England. It was the Delta Dart if I remember correctly. A really nice race car also. It had E. Ford pre-crossflow power. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 10:59 PM >To: Frank Clarici , b-evans at earthlink.net >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge > >What about the GOGO Dart made in Australia? That was late 50's too. > >Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > >> Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when >> Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought >> out its own "Dart"! > >But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 07:08:16 2007 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Frank's latest Project Message-ID: <273479.69967.qm@web34213.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So Frank, In picture 1 looks like you caught one of your helper's taking a leak in the front yard. I know the authorities feel about cars tipped up on their sides especially the local constable but how do they feel about indecent exposure. --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 15 07:25:42 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump Message-ID: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I need help guys and gals, The old blue top AC electric fuel pump crashed on my Seven America (Remember the "America" version is Sprite engine and transmission). I purchased a Carter in-line electric fuel pump that is pretty much shaped like a torpedo and comes with a separate installed steel fuel filter with a short piece of fuel line between. The fuel pump has a hot wire and a ground (braided no insulation. Can I wire this pump positive ground as my Seven America is positive ground. The wiring diagram only shows a negative ground application as usual. Thanks all for your help! Mike C ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 07:27:05 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't want to detract from the discussion on all the various Darts, but this sounds like a fun excuse to play gear-head trivia. How about the Gran Turismo Omologato (GTO) from both Ferrari & Pontiac. Did anybody ever get upset or sue anybody else over that one? While we're on the subject, how about the Lancia Monte Carlo? It was renamed to Scorpion for the US market because Chevrolet already had the name Monte Carlo here. Of course, there is the Suzuki Swift GTi vs. Volkswagen GTI. Then there's the old story of how Fiat named their new car the "8V" because they were afraid Ford had the name "V8" patented. Anybvody else want to play? - David Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: Here is one for you guys. In the early '60s, there was a sports car made in Africa but designed in England. It was the Delta Dart if I remember correctly. A really nice race car also. It had E. Ford pre-crossflow power. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 10:59 PM >To: Frank Clarici , b-evans at earthlink.net >Cc: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge > >What about the GOGO Dart made in Australia? That was late 50's too. > >Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > >> Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when >> Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought >> out its own "Dart"! > >But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 15 07:56:17 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:56:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071015085342.038c1b28@nosimport.com> There's the "0" rivalry between Peugeot and Porsche. Apparently Peugeot had the right to 204, 304, 404, 405 ad nauseam, and Porsche wanted a 904. Created a stink. PeterC == At 08:27 AM 10/15/2007, David Booker wrote: >Don't want to detract from the discussion on all the various Darts, >but this sounds like a fun excuse to play gear-head trivia. > > How about the Gran Turismo Omologato (GTO) from both Ferrari & > Pontiac. Did anybody ever get upset or sue anybody else over that one? > > While we're on the subject, how about the Lancia Monte Carlo? It > was renamed to Scorpion for the US market because Chevrolet already > had the name Monte Carlo here. > > Of course, there is the Suzuki Swift GTi vs. Volkswagen GTI. > > Then there's the old story of how Fiat named their new car the > "8V" because they were afraid Ford had the name "V8" patented. > > Anybvody else want to play? > > - David > > > > >Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Here is one for you guys. In the early '60s, there was a sports > car made in Africa but designed in England. It was the Delta Dart > if I remember correctly. A really nice race car also. It had E. > Ford pre-crossflow power. > >Mike C From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 15 08:13:13 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... Message-ID: <277307.1192457593900.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Nope, you win ;^). MC -----Original Message----- >From: David Booker >Sent: Oct 15, 2007 9:27 AM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... > >Don't want to detract from the discussion on all the various Darts, but this sounds like a fun excuse to play gear-head trivia. > > How about the Gran Turismo Omologato (GTO) from both Ferrari & Pontiac. Did anybody ever get upset or sue anybody else over that one? > > While we're on the subject, how about the Lancia Monte Carlo? It was renamed to Scorpion for the US market because Chevrolet already had the name Monte Carlo here. > > Of course, there is the Suzuki Swift GTi vs. Volkswagen GTI. > > Then there's the old story of how Fiat named their new car the "8V" because they were afraid Ford had the name "V8" patented. > > Anybvody else want to play? > > - David > > > > >Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Here is one for you guys. In the early '60s, there was a sports car made in Africa but designed in England. It was the Delta Dart if I remember correctly. A really nice race car also. It had E. Ford pre-crossflow power. > >Mike C > >-----Original Message----- >>From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com >>Sent: Oct 14, 2007 10:59 PM >>To: Frank Clarici , b-evans at earthlink.net >>Cc: Spridgets >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge >> >>What about the GOGO Dart made in Australia? That was late 50's too. >> >>Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> >>> Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when >>> Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought >>> out its own "Dart"! >> >>But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? >>-- >>Frank Clarici >>Toms River, NJ > > ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 08:31:37 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:31:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge In-Reply-To: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710150731kc19bf57n5540f1340c88127c@mail.gmail.com> Interesting. But there is a somewhat earlier use of the name "Delta Dart". In the early 50s Convair built the F-106 "Delta Dart" interceptor. An aircraft capable of Mach II. It just might be that the name pre-dates its use in the car business. Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/15/07, Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > Here is one for you guys. In the early '60s, there was a sports car made in Africa but designed in England. It was the Delta Dart if I remember correctly. A really nice race car also. It had E. Ford pre-crossflow power. > > Mike C > > -----Original Message----- > >From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com > >Sent: Oct 14, 2007 10:59 PM > >To: Frank Clarici , b-evans at earthlink.net > >Cc: Spridgets > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge > > > >What about the GOGO Dart made in Australia? That was late 50's too. > > > >Frank Clarici wrote: Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > > >> Now, the name "Dart" first appeared on the public scene in 1959 when > >> Daimler introduced its first "Dart". However, within a year, Dodge brought > >> out its own "Dart"! > > > >But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 15 08:34:53 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:34:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge References: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <43840a7e0710150731kc19bf57n5540f1340c88127c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c80f38$8d7c7bf0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Interesting. But there is a somewhat earlier use of the name "Delta > Dart". In the early 50s Convair built the F-106 "Delta Dart" > interceptor. An aircraft capable of Mach II. It just might be that > the name pre-dates its use in the car business. It pre-dates the Convair, too. The "standard" paper airplane everybody learns to fold first is also a "Dart". And how long have the Brits been using darts at their pubs? From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Oct 15 10:27:37 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:27:37 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/15/2007 7:26:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? -- Frank Clarici You mean Cerberus Capital Management / Chrysler? Or Daimler AG? Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 12:26:05 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge In-Reply-To: <001301c80f38$8d7c7bf0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <31426141.1192449878109.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <43840a7e0710150731kc19bf57n5540f1340c88127c@mail.gmail.com> <001301c80f38$8d7c7bf0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710151126k4cd117bbhb60fac0b30acad4c@mail.gmail.com> David, No doubt the word "dart" goes back a very long way. Oxford Dictionary shows it as a French word descended from Germanic meaning "spear or Lance". More recently, of course, it is also used as a verb. I was talking only about the term "Delta Dart" which, as far as I can trace it, is the Convair F-106. Cheers!! Jim On 10/15/07, David Lieb wrote: > > Interesting. But there is a somewhat earlier use of the name "Delta > > Dart". In the early 50s Convair built the F-106 "Delta Dart" > > interceptor. An aircraft capable of Mach II. It just might be that > > the name pre-dates its use in the car business. > > It pre-dates the Convair, too. The "standard" paper airplane > everybody learns to fold first is also a "Dart". And how long > have the Brits been using darts at their pubs? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Oct 15 13:01:43 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:01:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You must mean Cerberus Disassembly Management. Let's see...if we sell Jeep to some investors in Texas, and the Ram pick-up line to a consortium from Montana, we could unload the Auburn Hills Tech Center to a nursing home chain and the Chelsea Proving Grounds to Wal-Mart. That leaves the pocket change for our hungry motorheads from China and....voila! We have "managed our capital acerbically. (cerberutically?)" God save Lee Iacocca. His recent audio book, "Where Have All the Leaders Gone" is great commentary on the state of the nation and our oligarchy, if you can excuse the incessant bragging of how smart he was to bring us the K-car. :-) JohnD -----Original Message----- From: RampantNM at aol.com [mailto:RampantNM at aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:28 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 In a message dated 10/15/2007 7:26:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: But now that it's Daimler/Chrysler.......who cares? -- Frank Clarici You mean Cerberus Capital Management / Chrysler? Or Daimler AG? Regards, Robert B. Houston 63 TR4 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget b&Reminds me of my safari in Africa, somebody forgot the corkscrew and for several days we had to live on nothing but food and water. W. C Fields ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 13:06:42 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:06:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil drain pan Message-ID: <441250190710151206p7d1dc56fy3026b48c48ca908@mail.gmail.com> Kind of a stupid questions but is anyone using an oil catch pan that they really like? I used to have a Rubbermaid one that was not bad, but since it was so messy I got rid of it before they loaded the moving van. I have since purchased one that has a spout that bends down at the end. This thing always is leaking a couple of drops of oil. It tends to always drip so I am going to replace this catch pan. So does anyone have a catch pan that they really like? Want one that will reduce oil spillage. This pan will be used under a car that is on jack stands so it can't be to high. -g From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 15:15:19 2007 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:15:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil drain pan In-Reply-To: <441250190710151206p7d1dc56fy3026b48c48ca908@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <623408.10429.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've had no trouble from the one I bought from Advance Auto Parts. It is a round black container with a funnel built on one side and a handle on the other. There's a little screw-in plug in the center of the top and another on the end of the spout so nothing splashes out while moving the pan. Mine has never leaked, so it is no hassle to take the used oil down for recycling. Can't remember how much I payed, but it was cheap. No complaints at all. - David Bill Gilroy wrote: Kind of a stupid questions but is anyone using an oil catch pan that they really like? I used to have a Rubbermaid one that was not bad, but since it was so messy I got rid of it before they loaded the moving van. I have since purchased one that has a spout that bends down at the end. This thing always is leaking a couple of drops of oil. It tends to always drip so I am going to replace this catch pan. So does anyone have a catch pan that they really like? Want one that will reduce oil spillage. This pan will be used under a car that is on jack stands so it can't be to high. -g _______________________________________________ tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:31:23 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question References: <8a336b9d0710142248h5966279cva5fdcd9555a9a099@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710142300o732178ar8ecf9614d211f2fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00a101c80f72$bca8da10$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> My very first thought, Derf!!! From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 15:35:09 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:35:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics References: <380-220071001422532515@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00a901c80f73$4586d8a0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Next you'll be telling us that you where a 50% / 50% co-author of all of Al's global warming stuff and that yer gonna sue for half of the Nobel Peace Prize!!!! Where does it end??? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Oct 15 16:13:18 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:13:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought it was the Pogo Dart and the Dodge Lancer. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 15 16:13:31 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:13:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast enough for you? Message-ID: <380-220071011522133178@earthlink.net> Just the thing if you want to go fast, or look like you could go fast!!! http://tinyurl.com/3bekbm Buste From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 16:59:43 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What Flounder.... References: <8855031.2862971192399590589.JavaMail.root@vms070.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <014001c80f7f$13ede480$6601a8c0@actualshop> NEEDS!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php Pretty cool!!! You also, 'Hopper!!!!! LOL From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 17:02:13 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:02:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> David Booker wrote: > Don't want to detract from the discussion on all the various Darts, but this sounds like a fun excuse to play gear-head trivia. > > How about the Gran Turismo Omologato (GTO) from both Ferrari & Pontiac. Did anybody ever get upset or sue anybody else over that one? Pontiac's GTO means Garbage Truck with Options (or Overdrive) ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 17:09:29 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:09:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> References: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: Oddly enough, I looked at car values a few months ago. My Garbage Truck, restored, has a "book value" of 53K On 10/15/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > David Booker wrote: > > Don't want to detract from the discussion on all the various Darts, but this sounds like a fun excuse to play gear-head trivia. > > > > How about the Gran Turismo Omologato (GTO) from both Ferrari & Pontiac. Did anybody ever get upset or sue anybody else over that one? > > Pontiac's GTO means Garbage Truck with Options (or Overdrive) ;) > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 17:07:35 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:07:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4713F2B7.6000808@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > While we're on the subject of bearing preload for tapered bearings... > Has anyone ever set the preload on a spridget differential? Hal, if you get it right, let me know and I'll send you 1/2 a dozen diffs that all need help. I read and re-read the book on diff repairs, I would much rather read and comprehend the income tax laws. So I just swap out the bad for what I have in the crate, but the crate ran dry, it's full of noisy diffs and semi disassembled diffs and lots of rings and pinions. So since you are "The Man" of rears, wanna fix some? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 17:13:39 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:13:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <380-22007100140144906@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007100140144906@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4713F423.5030705@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > What gives, Frank? Are you beginning to slow down in your Golden > Years? Wasn't there a time not long ago when you would just pass on > this car because it would be too easy and no challenge to put into > running condition? Since this was the ONLY 67 Sprite project for sale on the internet, I had to buy it. OK, it's an easy project. There were a few other 67s for sale but they were 68s and 65s, not 67s. I am swamped with work, and no end in site. So the Sprite has to wait. Hey, I did work on it Saturday and gutted the thing including the floors. I read where people plan a whole weekend to drop a gas tank. I dropped the tank in 2 minutes, it would have been less but the clamp on neck gave me a fit. I yanked the engine and trans in 10 minutes before dinner after work one night. Some people plan a month for that project ;) And with several weekends already booked up, this car may take me until Christmas to finish. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Mon Oct 15 17:16:45 2007 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:16:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question References: <4713F2B7.6000808@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002c01c80f81$74f7bdd0$97c7584c@Music> Hal, Where did you get the new crush spacer? I have never been able to find one and have to reuse the old ones. Jon > Hal Faulkner wrote: >> While we're on the subject of bearing preload for tapered bearings... >> Has anyone ever set the preload on a spridget differential? > > Hal, if you get it right, let me know and I'll send you 1/2 a dozen > diffs that all need help. > I read and re-read the book on diff repairs, I would much rather read > and comprehend the income tax laws. > So I just swap out the bad for what I have in the crate, but the crate > ran dry, it's full of noisy diffs and semi disassembled diffs and lots > of rings and pinions. > So since you are "The Man" of rears, wanna fix some? From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 17:21:54 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:21:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump In-Reply-To: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4713F612.4010107@comcast.net> Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > I need help guys and gals, > > Can I wire this pump positive ground as my Seven America is positive ground Wire it braided wire to negative (hot on your car) Other wire to Positive. (grd on your car) But insulate the pump so it does not ground out. I had my 8 track player floating around in the glove box of my first Sprite hooked up this way. Worked fine til it grounded out and let out all the smoke. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 17:25:18 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:25:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: References: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4713F6DE.9050103@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > Oddly enough, I looked at car values a few months ago. My Garbage > Truck, restored, has a "book value" of 53K Yeah and my Healey had a "value of 55k" but the $$ of cars that actually sold is another story. I have a $75,000 Sprite. Wanna buy it? But the $5,000 Sprites are selling. Barret-Jackson is not the correct name for those initials ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 15 17:47:35 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:47:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] King Pin Installation Message-ID: <036401c80f85$c3595de0$d280bc43@HP> I have installed more king pins on "A" arm's than I can count. I've always used the cork washers and never had a problem. I just spent 2 hours and went through 8 cork washers and got nowhere WTF? I tried rubber hose washers but they were way too thick. Could barely get one on, much less two. Anybody ever use an "O" ring? Larry Miller From hal at katemuir.com Mon Oct 15 18:35:07 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:35:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710142300o732178ar8ecf9614d211f2fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The manual clearly states " lb-in." YIKES!!! So, if I torque the pinion nut to the recommended 135 to 140 lb-ft it is definitely too tight. Now I can back off the pinion nut 'till I have 11-13 lb-in of preload. Guess I'll just have to figure out how to measure that.... The pinion nut is torqued without the differential in the unit so gear lash doesn't become part of the deal. Hal Derf asked: "Are you sure the preload shouldn't be in inch pounds? Some Fords are set up with 20 or so inch pounds of preload. If you can't turn it by hand then you have something wrong. Is there any gear lash when you have the diff torqued?" _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 19:05:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:05:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910710142300o732178ar8ecf9614d211f2fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710151805k60b472bt5df833eb43801827@mail.gmail.com> If it is a crush sleeve preload then you will need a new crush sleeve. This is a good example of setting crush sleeve preload on a Ford diff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8APYO2sZyJU Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 19:09:42 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:09:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Clear Gears, these are cool. Message-ID: <5f00d9910710151809j4b7633b2vc227e9c1737858cb@mail.gmail.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1Y_goOb-g Now we need some clear valve covers and intakes. From cfchrist at earthlink.net Mon Oct 15 19:33:08 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:33:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] What Flounder.... Message-ID: <21250981.1192498388411.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> aw crud! just when i thought i had financial matters straightened out....something way cool comes along i can not afford! DRAT! DOUBBLE DRAT! now i need a new vintage racer..... chuck. flounder, if ya get one can i drive it just once????????? :) -----Original Message----- >From: 63AHBJ7 <63ahbj7 at gmail.com> >Sent: Oct 15, 2007 6:59 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] What Flounder.... > >NEEDS!!!!!!!!!!! > >http://www.junior3000gt.com/junior-3000gt-pictures2.php From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 15 19:54:14 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:54:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Darts, GTO's and GTI's... In-Reply-To: <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> References: <212704.92691.qm@web36814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4713F175.7080906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <471419C6.7040108@earthlink.net> >Frank Clarici wrote: "Pontiac's GTO means Garbage Truck with Options (or Overdrive) ;)" > Oh, an Italian car? Hangs around the Joisy garbage dumps, huh? But, it figures. GTO does end with a vowel. Buster From kgrowler at aol.com Mon Oct 15 20:03:41 2007 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:03:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Differential bearing preload question Message-ID: <8C9DDAFE8D4BB53-8B8-47AB@FWM-M16.sysops.aol.com> Ed (or one of his aliases [aliaii?] wrote: <<>> 60 plus years and this is the first thought you ever had? Wow. Watching in Downers Grove for incoming from Hinsdale... ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com Mon Oct 15 20:05:29 2007 From: MAIL4CARPENTERS at peoplepc.com (MICHAEL CARPENTER) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:05:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump References: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4713F612.4010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00ed01c80f99$07129390$b5aef904@D1PWFG61> Thanks, Frank. I will try that. I actually have large shrink tubing that I can borrow at work. I can shrink it in place and I bet that it would work. Cheers, Mike Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Mike/Donna Carpenter" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump > Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: >> I need help guys and gals, >> >> Can I wire this pump positive ground as my Seven America is positive >> ground > > > Wire it braided wire to negative (hot on your car) > Other wire to Positive. (grd on your car) But insulate the pump so it does > not ground out. > I had my 8 track player floating around in the glove box of my first > Sprite hooked up this way. Worked fine til it grounded out and let out all > the smoke. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 20:08:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:08:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump In-Reply-To: <00ed01c80f99$07129390$b5aef904@D1PWFG61> References: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4713F612.4010107@comcast.net> <00ed01c80f99$07129390$b5aef904@D1PWFG61> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710151908w7dab68eau9c1416f4cdf2466d@mail.gmail.com> Use some shrink tubing around the braided wire and some around the body of the pump. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 15 23:12:51 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:12:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 References: Message-ID: <000f01c80fb3$352f15e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> But he also brought us the Mustang!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: ; Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 42 > > God save Lee Iacocca. His recent audio book, "Where Have All the > Leaders Gone" is great commentary on the state of the nation and our > oligarchy, if you can excuse the incessant bragging of how smart he was > to bring us the K-car. :-) > > JohnD From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 16 05:36:58 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:36:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Darts--Daimler and Dodge....and Convair Message-ID: '53........F-102 Convair Delta "Dagger" (maiden flght) '56........F-106 Convair Delta "Dart" (Bush- mobile?) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Tue Oct 16 17:58:44 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:58:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need a photo Message-ID: <5960B2CFED744C7CB0D7192879522DAD@JEPHome> Could someone send me a photo of the combination gauge (temp & oil pressure) offered by Moss (part no. 361-761)? I want to make sure it looks like my other gauges before I order it. If it doesn't, can someone recommend a shop to repair my temperature gauge? The tubing cracked and the ether leaked out. Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From TomD4760 at aol.com Tue Oct 16 21:55:00 2007 From: TomD4760 at aol.com (TomD4760 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:55:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Need a Weber 45 and an intake manifold for 1275 Message-ID: I'm looking for a good used Weber 45 and also for a longer intake manifold (5-6 inches) for my '59 Bugeye with 1275. Thanks, Tom Deats TomD4760 at aol.com RMVR and Nostalgia Racing


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See what's new at http://www.aol.com From gmari2 at verizon.net Wed Oct 17 04:31:43 2007 From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:31:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Need a photo Message-ID: <21085833.36959401192617103539.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net> Jim, I used Nisonger's in NY quite a number of yearrs ago. george marinos >From: "James E. Pickard" >Date: 2007/10/16 Tue PM 06:58:44 CDT >To: Spridgets e-mail list >Subject: [Spridgets] Need a photo >Could someone send me a photo of the combination gauge (temp & oil pressure) >offered by Moss (part no. 361-761)? I want to make sure it looks like my >other gauges before I order it. > >If it doesn't, can someone recommend a shop to repair my temperature gauge? >The tubing cracked and the ether leaked out. > >Thanks. > >Jim Pickard >B9473298 ('65 Tiger) >AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) >2003 Mini Cooper >Lafayette, LA >_______________________________________________ >gmari2 at verizon.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets George Marinos From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 07:17:07 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:17:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Loooong Race In-Reply-To: <850255.85424.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <850255.85424.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710170617p5a7a8d35oa2a026225825a447@mail.gmail.com> I will be there saturday hawking parts, dad will be there both days. On 10/17/07, Ron Soave wrote: > > Anyone going to BHF this weekend? Thicko attendance > seems like it will be scant (just me according to the > online entries, anyway). I'm starting lose my > enthusiasm. > > Ron > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Oct 17 08:36:42 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:36:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thicko mail was down Message-ID: <001f01c810cb$2487bc60$6d973520$@com> So, if anyone sent something to me over the last 2 days, please resend. Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Oct 17 09:00:40 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:00:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump In-Reply-To: <4713F612.4010107@comcast.net> References: <6417410.1192454742808.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4713F612.4010107@comcast.net> Message-ID: Did a similar stunt when I was a kid with a clapped out MGB. Fuses? We don't need no stinkin' fuses! Car caught fire on I-95 just outside Norwalk, CT one night. Had a bunch of contraband in the car which I jettisoned just before the trooper with the fire bottle showed up. Foul smelling insulation, what? -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:22 PM To: Mike/Donna Carpenter Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Federal Mogul (Carter) Fuel Pump Mike/Donna Carpenter wrote: > I need help guys and gals, > > Can I wire this pump positive ground as my Seven America is positive ground Wire it braided wire to negative (hot on your car) Other wire to Positive. (grd on your car) But insulate the pump so it does not ground out. I had my 8 track player floating around in the glove box of my first Sprite hooked up this way. Worked fine til it grounded out and let out all the smoke. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 12:59:52 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:59:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel chock warmup.. Message-ID: http://www.fototime.com/CF41ED80F244FAF/conv.wmv I know that it's been around but just in case.. Lester From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 17 14:44:45 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:44:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Message-ID: <000a01c810fe$8f31c3c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> What kind of a Midget does this fit? Paul A From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 17 14:46:59 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:46:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Message-ID: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> What kind of a Midget does this fit? http://tinyurl.com/37plur (That Better?) Paul A From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 15:12:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:12:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710171412u20a3e49ck913e99a696b1713d@mail.gmail.com> That's an "Adopter", according to the seller. It must be for adopting things. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 17 15:34:24 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter References: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <5f00d9910710171412u20a3e49ck913e99a696b1713d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009601c81105$7d934010$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > That's an "Adopter", according to the seller. It must be for adopting > things. I am still trying to figure out whether an "Oli" filter "adopter" is pro-scandinavian or not. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Oct 17 15:54:37 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:54:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071017165249.035db748@mailbag.com> MGB? Moss number 460-910 or 460-915, depending on how it's hangin'...... Peter C. ======== At 03:46 PM 10/17/2007, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >What kind of a Midget does this fit? > >http://tinyurl.com/37plur > >(That Better?) > >Paul A From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 17 16:05:53 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:05:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter References: <000a01c810fe$8f31c3c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <001501c81109$e2c24720$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Circus? > What kind of a Midget does this fit? > > Paul A From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Oct 17 16:10:09 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071017165249.035db748@mailbag.com> References: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <7.0.1.0.2.20071017165249.035db748@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <17e8a4056a3bc4a20b2a.20071017151009.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Speaking of oil filters. When I posted last week of the huge oil leak and overpressure on my 1275 Bugeye, it was right after I changed the oil and filter. The oil that I took out was Penrite Break in oil (30 wt) and it had a STP filter. I put in Penrite HPR 30 (SAE 20W-60) and used a filter that cross referenced from a filter recommendation thru the archives. I also found an MGB spring in the oil pressure relief valve. The MGB spring relieves at 70 PSI and the 1275 spring is supposed to relieve at 50, but most springs you buy are 60 PSI. Not that for off from 70. DO you think the filter played a part in the over pressure? What spin on filters are you guys using? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (Horrendously marking it's territory) 56 BN2 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 17:07:10 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:07:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls Message-ID: <4716959E.7070502@comcast.net> Inside the covers of Smiths Heater blower motors. How do you get the brass ball back into the spring steel fingers? After many hours of messing with one where the ball came out of the socket, I trashed another blower motor to save the first. And now that I trashed my 3rd blower, I have to fix one. The balls should stay in the socket when the motor cover is slid off the armature. They don't! So how do you pry back 6 spring steel fingers at the same time to reset the brass ball? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 17 18:01:53 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:01:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls In-Reply-To: <4716959E.7070502@comcast.net> References: <4716959E.7070502@comcast.net> Message-ID: More hands? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: October 17, 2007 7:07 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls Inside the covers of Smiths Heater blower motors. How do you get the brass ball back into the spring steel fingers? After many hours of messing with one where the ball came out of the socket, I trashed another blower motor to save the first. And now that I trashed my 3rd blower, I have to fix one. The balls should stay in the socket when the motor cover is slid off the armature. They don't! So how do you pry back 6 spring steel fingers at the same time to reset the brass ball? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ robertduquette at sympatico.ca Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Oct 17 19:14:46 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:14:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <17e8a4056a3bc4a20b2a.20071017151009.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> References: <001501c810fe$de51cea0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <7.0.1.0.2.20071017165249.035db748@mailbag.com> <17e8a4056a3bc4a20b2a.20071017151009.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <1735356829.20071017181446@pacifier.com> Hello rrengineer, Wix 51348, or Penzoil pz-21 -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "It's time to play my wild card," Tom deduced. From geowiz.sgy at cox.net Wed Oct 17 20:09:15 2007 From: geowiz.sgy at cox.net (James E. Pickard) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:09:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Plugging the oil pressure line Message-ID: <10302AB1835C44518BDE7F2822D666B4@JEPHome> I'm sending my oil pressure/temperature gauge off to Mo-Ma for repair. What is the best (and hopefully easiest) way to plug off the oil pressure line so I can move the car occasionally during the couple weeks the gauge is gone? I tried screwing a bolt into the gauge end of the line, but it would only go part way in, and I'm not going to force it. Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 17 20:15:10 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls Message-ID: <200710180215.l9I2FA5l018668@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> The six fingers are part of a thin steel "washer" that is pressed into place. The whole thing can be popped out and reset over the ball. From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 17 20:20:49 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:20:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] BI rear brakes Message-ID: I've seen two types of brake adjusting methods on Bugeyes. Mine has a screw on the outside of the wheel which turns a snail with steps on it. Other ones I have seen are adjusted by turning a square peg on the inside of the wheel.Is there any significance to this such as year of manufacture? Thanks, Bob C in KS ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 17 20:25:01 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:25:01 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat Message-ID: Hello all,---does anyone have any experience with the exhaust wrap currently being sold? Or how about the coating, (ceramic?) both inside and outside of the exhaust system? How are you keeping your feet cool in the summer time?-------Bob C in KS ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From millerls at ado13.com Wed Oct 17 20:32:16 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:32:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BI rear brakes References: Message-ID: <00dd01c8112f$1a017f60$d280bc43@HP> > wheel.Is there any significance to this such as year of manufacture? > Thanks, No, the latter is swapped in from a later cars. All bugeyes came with the "Snail" type adjuster. From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 17 20:44:35 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:44:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] real axle Message-ID: Well, I am still trying to figure out just which rear axle I have on the BI. The PO put wire wheels on it but, of course, that half shaft is shorter that the solid wheel unit and so will not fully engage the diff. I talked with a fellow at" Frogeye Spares" in England and he said what they were doing was to press the splined knock off hub away out from the half shaft and TIG weld it thus making it all longer. Apparently there is enough meat in the knock off hub to do this.What happens when your splined hub wears out? Surely you must be able to press on a new one to the half shaft. I have seen these hubs available by themselves for about $110. Or does one buy the half shaft and the splined hub already connected? How much force do you think is needed? I have not seen stronger half shafts advertised for wire wheel cars but I have seen then for sale for pressed ones.My man in England said that early BI with wire wheels were just solid wheel cars with splined adaptors bolted on.This combo might work because I could buy the stronger half shafts for solid wheel cars and bolt on the adaptor. Might make the tire stick out more though.As the two axles are two different sizes ,the hand brake rods would be too. Anyone with nothing better to do care to send me some measurements, --from center of hole to center of hole? Thanks---Bob C in KS ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 20:42:53 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:42:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4716C82D.8090705@comcast.net> BCAH at aol.com wrote: > How are you keeping your feet cool in the summer time? I have duct insulation under my drivers side floor mat along with an asbestos plate shimmed down from the floor pan with a couple of nuts to give it an air space. My sneakers still melt but not as fast ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 21:03:39 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:03:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat References: <4716C82D.8090705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <054201c81133$7c5552f0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> ChinaRicken??? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 21:04:57 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:04:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710172004g1c68a049xa27d6180fb9399cf@mail.gmail.com> Exhaust wraps work well but promote condensation which will rust the things wrapped. Ceramic coating, inside and out, is the way to go, IMHO. Ceramic coating is good for heat and to protect the metal. If my feet get too warm in the Miata I turn on the A/C. Cheers, Derf From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 17 21:15:40 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:15:40 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics Message-ID: I just picked up the Oct issue at Barnes&Noble ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 17 21:18:45 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:18:45 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Message-ID: Does anyone know what the latest deal is on the issue of new oil not being OK for our older, flat tappet engines? For awhile there it seemed that it would kill our cams and lifters.Any new information? Bob C ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 21:23:05 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:23:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <065001c81136$332ca850$6601a8c0@actualshop> Boring read but great info in "various articles" at www.justbrits.com , Bob. From TomD4760 at aol.com Wed Oct 17 21:32:13 2007 From: TomD4760 at aol.com (TomD4760 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:32:13 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat Message-ID: I race a PI with a 1275. Rookie year I melted the right heel of an expensive pair of driver's shoes. After that I wrapped some exhaust insulation around the the exhaust pipe directly under the pedals, and screwed a foot square piece of 3/32nd aluminum on the floor under the pedals as a heat sink. Have not had any more problems. Tom Deats


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See what's new at http://www.aol.com From franks97 at verizon.net Wed Oct 17 22:09:42 2007 From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:09:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: March event In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Spridgets are invited.... MG9s Invade California March 2008 Fill up the tow rigs, throw in the spares and kiss the wife good-bye. (Better yet, bring her along). It9s time for vintage racing west coast style in 2008. MGVR has just confirmed with The Historic Motor Sports Association (HMSA) that the weekend of March 15-16th, 2008 at Laguna Seca and will feature vintage racing MG9s. This year9s focus event will feature the legend of Ken Miles and his historic career. Be a part of the largest gathering of MG vintage race cars in history and the rare opportunity to race at the legendary Laguna Seca. CART (Champ Cars) will be in their spring training the week prior to the event so show up early to see how the pros drive the track. Other activities in the works include a dinner at the Laguna Seca Red Bull center with special guest speakers. After the race weekend, the Monterey Peninsula, San Francisco, and Wine Country offer nearly everything you can imagine for a wonderful getaway. Everything from site seeing, hiking, wine tasting to world class food. Still not convinced? Take a look at Laguna Seca - www.laguna-seca.com Contact Chris Meyers for more information - cvair1 at comcast.net -or- 860 490 5950. Additional details to follow very soon. Please do not contact HMSA for details as all information will come through MGVR. ------ End of Forwarded Message From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Oct 17 22:18:16 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Milwaukee People: keep an eye out for a black 99 Si with giant friggin "73s" on the door Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710172118q5f8c94a8u779bae331db5b826@mail.gmail.com> My friends show room stock C car just got stolen off of north commerce in milwaukee. Its a black SI with white and grey vinyls, it stickered the hell up. Its on race rubber with race seats, and a full cage. Please call the cops and stay with the car if you find it. it's everything to this chick :( -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From duncan at pondhop.com Thu Oct 18 04:04:08 2007 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 05:04:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls In-Reply-To: <4716959E.7070502@comcast.net> References: <4716959E.7070502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004001c8116e$3baf0620$b30d1260$@com> I think IIRC I held the ball in place with pliers and worked around the fingers lifting one at a time a little bit and jamming them against the ball. A few times around and the ball popped back in. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 6:07 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Brass Balls Inside the covers of Smiths Heater blower motors. How do you get the brass ball back into the spring steel fingers? After many hours of messing with one where the ball came out of the socket, I trashed another blower motor to save the first. And now that I trashed my 3rd blower, I have to fix one. The balls should stay in the socket when the motor cover is slid off the armature. They don't! So how do you pry back 6 spring steel fingers at the same time to reset the brass ball? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ duncan at pondhop.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 18 06:11:36 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP References: Message-ID: <004a01c81180$08bdc640$6401a8c0@Larry> Bob, here is a good article and some product test results that came across the MG list a while back. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP Does anyone know what the latest deal is on the issue of new oil not being OK for our older, flat tappet engines? For awhile there it seemed that it would kill our cams and lifters.Any new information? Bob C From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 18 08:21:45 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:21:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018091637.034ad3d0@mailbag.com> From the MG Experience. I have no knowledge, interest, or recommendation. Peter C ======================================== Sorry to all that called me I had to clear some thing up before I could let this go. There is no paperwork with the Sprite only a bill of sale it is good for parts only. I would prefer to sell it as one unit but I can pull it apart. The Sprite was running and driving when it was totaled a few months ago. A customer gave me his wrecked 62 Sprite. It has a good running engine and trans, disc brakes, almost new seats, good reusable interior. It was hit hard in the front so I cut it off to move the car. It is great for parts. 2000.00 OBO would like to get rid of it this week. Bring your trailer it won't last long the landlord is on my a^^ to get it off the lot. Thanks Joe 818 350 6222 From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Oct 18 09:44:59 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:44:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 1.75 vs 2 main bearings Message-ID: <00cd01c8119d$d7b5c250$8500a8c0@CT> I am going to go take a look at 65 Sprite this weekend. How can I tell if the 1098 has the small crank? Mark From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 18 09:59:30 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:59:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 1.75 vs 2 main bearings In-Reply-To: <00cd01c8119d$d7b5c250$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: > 1098 has the small crank? It might just be cold. Try warming it up a little. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 10:16:39 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018091637.034ad3d0@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018091637.034ad3d0@mailbag.com> Message-ID: Maybe it's just me, but a WRECKED Sprite for $2000??? That seems a bit steep... On 10/18/07, Peter C wrote: > From the MG Experience. I have no knowledge, interest, or recommendation. > Peter C > ======================================== > Sorry to all that called me I had to clear some thing up before I > could let this go. There is no paperwork with the Sprite only a bill > of sale it is good for parts only. I would prefer to sell it as one > unit but I can pull it apart. The Sprite was running and driving when > it was totaled a few months ago. A customer gave me his wrecked 62 > Sprite. It has a good running engine and trans, disc brakes, almost > new seats, good reusable interior. It was hit hard in the front so I > cut it off to move the car. It is great for parts. 2000.00 OBO would > like to get rid of it this week. Bring your trailer it won't last > long the landlord is on my a^^ to get it off the lot. Thanks Joe 818 350 6222 > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From hal at katemuir.com Thu Oct 18 10:24:21 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:24:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 1.75 vs 2 main bearings In-Reply-To: <00cd01c8119d$d7b5c250$8500a8c0@CT> Message-ID: Mark, engine number tells the tale: 10CC is 2" mains, 10CG is 1.75. Hal From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 18 10:20:46 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:20:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018091637.034ad3d0@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018112022.035dcbf0@nosimport.com> Yeah.... I thought it was a typo, too. At 11:16 AM 10/18/2007, Brad Fornal wrote: >Maybe it's just me, but a WRECKED Sprite for $2000??? >That seems a bit steep... > >On 10/18/07, Peter C wrote: > > From the MG Experience. I have no knowledge, interest, or recommendation. > > Peter C > > ======================================== > > Sorry to all that called me I had to clear some thing up before I > > could let this go. There is no paperwork with the Sprite only a bill > > of sale it is good for parts only. I would prefer to sell it as one > > unit but I can pull it apart. The Sprite was running and driving when > > it was totaled a few months ago. A customer gave me his wrecked 62 > > Sprite. It has a good running engine and trans, disc brakes, almost > > new seats, good reusable interior. It was hit hard in the front so I > > cut it off to move the car. It is great for parts. 2000.00 OBO would > > like to get rid of it this week. Bring your trailer it won't last > > long the landlord is on my a^^ to get it off the lot. Thanks Joe > 818 350 6222 > > _______________________________________________ > > tequila.brad at gmail.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 18 10:29:14 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:29:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale Message-ID: <380-220071041816291462@earthlink.net> Hmmm. Maybe it IS a typo! Or way too much pride!!! Anyway, if anyone is interested in this "totaled" Sprite, let me know and I will run up and take a look at it. I am not sure how much good my five page "appraisal" sheet would do, but I can at least look at it and find out what the "real" price is. You can never tell how proud someone is of their car until faced with the reality of things. (Especially since 1) it was "given" to him, 2) the landlord is pressuring him, and 3) he obviously don't know zip about Spridgets! Buster ----------------------------------------------------------- Peter C. wrote > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale > Yeah.... I thought it was a typo, too. Brad wrote > >Maybe it's just me, but a WRECKED Sprite for $2000??? > >That seems a bit steep... Peter C. wrote: > >On 10/18/07, Peter C wrote: > > > From the MG Experience. I have no knowledge, interest, or recommendation. > > > ======================================== > > > Sorry to all that called me I had to clear some thing up before I could let this go. There is no paperwork with the Sprite only a bill of sale it is good for parts only. I would prefer to sell it as one unit but I can pull it apart. The Sprite was running and driving when it was totaled a few months ago. A customer gave me his wrecked 62 Sprite. It has a good running engine and trans, disc brakes, almost new seats, good reusable interior. It was hit hard in the front so I cut it off to move the car. It is great for parts. 2000.00 OBO would like to get rid of it this week. Bring your trailer it won't last long the landlord is on my a to get it off the lot. Thanks Joe 818 350 6222 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 10:38:00 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:38:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 1.75 vs 2 main bearings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2755EB19-8395-419D-A97C-BA95AEF76330@comcast.net> .. and he should use lotion or just motor oil?? On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:59 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> 1098 has the small crank? > It might just be cold. Try warming it up a little. > _______________________________________________ > oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Oct 18 11:24:27 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:24:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale In-Reply-To: <380-220071041816291462@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Maybe it's not a typo. He said he got it from a customer. Perhaps it was in settlement of a debt and the customer convinced him that it was worth $2000. :) Someone once thought that my Midget was worth $35000. I told him that I would accept that if he wanted to buy it. He didn't. :( >From: "Robert Bruce Evans" > >Hmmm. Maybe it IS a typo! Or way too much pride!!! Anyway, if anyone is >interested in this "totaled" Sprite, let me know and I will run up and take >a look at it. I am not sure how much good my five page "appraisal" sheet >would do, but I can at least look at it and find out what the "real" price >is. You can never tell how proud someone is of their car until faced with >the reality of things. (Especially since 1) it was "given" to him, 2) the >landlord is pressuring him, and 3) he obviously don't know zip about >Spridgets! > >Buster >----------------------------------------------------------- >Peter C. wrote > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Parts car SoCal For sale > > Yeah.... I thought it was a typo, too. > >Brad wrote > > >Maybe it's just me, but a WRECKED Sprite for $2000??? > > >That seems a bit steep... > >Peter C. wrote: > > >On 10/18/07, Peter C wrote: > > > > From the MG Experience. I have no knowledge, interest, or >recommendation. > > > > ======================================== > > > > Sorry to all that called me I had to clear some thing up before I >could let this go. There is no paperwork with the Sprite only a bill of >sale it is good for parts only. I would prefer to sell it as one unit but I >can pull it apart. The Sprite was running and driving when it was totaled >a few months ago. A customer gave me his wrecked 62 Sprite. It has a good >running engine and trans, disc brakes, almost new seats, good reusable >interior. It was hit hard in the front so I cut it off to move the car. It >is great for parts. 2000.00 OBO would like to get rid of it this week. >Bring your trailer it won't last long the landlord is on my a to get it >off the lot. Thanks Joe 818 350 6222 From jerry.goodman at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 14:01:50 2007 From: jerry.goodman at comcast.net (Jerry Goodman) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:01:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed Message-ID: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> I have a broken halfshaft on the bugeye. The problem is I cannot pull it out....It comes out about 3/8 inch and binds up. I have tryed prying it..hammering it ...took out other halfshaft...slid right out. Unbolted differential...but cannot remove because halfshaft stilll engaged. If I turn halfshaft differential turns ....but in some positions it does not spin diffy so I feel certain it is a half shaft problem. Open to any ideas Thank you in advance Jerry From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Oct 18 14:27:34 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fiberglas header wrap works very well but will contribute to quicker rust-out of your exhaust system. I have my race car headers wrapped in the stuff and I can actually adjust my carbs without blistering my hands. JohnD -----Original Message----- From: BCAH at aol.com [mailto:BCAH at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:25 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Engine heat Hello all,---does anyone have any experience with the exhaust wrap currently being sold? Or how about the coating, (ceramic?) both inside and outside of the exhaust system? How are you keeping your feet cool in the summer time?-------Bob C in KS ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From peter at nosimport.com Thu Oct 18 14:36:33 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:36:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed In-Reply-To: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> References: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071018153109.0398fe08@nosimport.com> I've never broken one (my GF did..... honest), I'm no expert, didn't stay at a Holiday Inn, but strange?.... mebbe. All I can say is keep hammering. Mine was a wire wheel Midget. I finally bought a scruffy used knock-off, drilled a hole in it, and used a BF slide hammer. The once-mushroom end eventually squeezed enough to come out. It mushrooms into the space between the carrier bearing and the gear. Make something similar so you can get a slide hammer on it..... a BF one. You probably should inspect/replace the bearing. I didn't, but then I sold the car to the same GF ;-) Peter C. ===== At 03:01 PM 10/18/2007, you wrote: >I have a broken halfshaft on the bugeye. The problem is I cannot pull it >out....It comes out about 3/8 inch and binds up. I have tryed prying >it..hammering it ...took out other halfshaft...slid right out. Unbolted >differential...but cannot remove because halfshaft stilll engaged. If I turn >halfshaft differential turns ....but in some positions it does not spin diffy >so I feel certain it is a half shaft problem. Open to any ideas >Thank you in advance >Jerry From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 15:21:37 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:21:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 progress pics In-Reply-To: <4713F423.5030705@comcast.net> References: <380-22007100140144906@earthlink.net> <4713F423.5030705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430710181421r66ab062cxf47e0e5f5dc4dd9c@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Cool you found one. BTW is the site down I only get a message that says "sorry this site is temporarily down" Thanks Linda On 10/15/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > What gives, Frank? Are you beginning to slow down in your Golden > > Years? Wasn't there a time not long ago when you would just pass on > > this car because it would be too easy and no challenge to put into > > running condition? > > Since this was the ONLY 67 Sprite project for sale on the internet, I > had to buy it. OK, it's an easy project. > There were a few other 67s for sale but they were 68s and 65s, not 67s. > I am swamped with work, and no end in site. So the Sprite has to wait. > Hey, I did work on it Saturday and gutted the thing including the floors. > I read where people plan a whole weekend to drop a gas tank. I dropped > the tank in 2 minutes, it would have been less but the clamp on neck > gave me a fit. I yanked the engine and trans in 10 minutes before dinner > after work one night. Some people plan a month for that project ;) > And with several weekends already booked up, this car may take me until > Christmas to finish. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 15:27:40 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:27:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil drain pan In-Reply-To: <623408.10429.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <441250190710151206p7d1dc56fy3026b48c48ca908@mail.gmail.com> <623408.10429.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430710181427q16fbf6b4lced2ab72a8db07fc@mail.gmail.com> Ditto I have the same one and it has 2 caps one for the spout and one for the center hole, has never leaked. Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 10/15/07, David Booker wrote: > > I've had no trouble from the one I bought from Advance Auto Parts. It is > a round black container with a funnel built on one side and a handle on the > other. There's a little screw-in plug in the center of the top and another > on the end of the spout so nothing splashes out while moving the pan. Mine > has never leaked, so it is no hassle to take the used oil down for > recycling. Can't remember how much I payed, but it was cheap. No > complaints at all. > - David > > Bill Gilroy wrote: > Kind of a stupid questions but is anyone using an oil catch pan that they > really like? I used to have a Rubbermaid one that was not bad, but since > it > was so messy I got rid of it before they loaded the moving van. I have > since purchased one that has a spout that bends down at the end. This > thing > always is leaking a couple of drops of oil. It tends to always drip so I > am > going to replace this catch pan. So does anyone have a catch pan that they > really like? Want one that will reduce oil spillage. > > This pan will be used under a car that is on jack stands so it can't be to > high. > > -g > _______________________________________________ > tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! > Autos. > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Thu Oct 18 16:45:55 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:45:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Coil Springs Message-ID: In the "What the heck do I have here and can I use them?" category.... I picked up a set of coil springs cheap cause mine were perceived as pretty crusty. Now that I have an old one out as part of the suspension rebuild, I notice that the 'new' one is about 3/8 inch shorter and also that it appears a god deal more stiff (that's right I said stiff). I can get 'manual' - meaning squeeze - compression out of both but much less out of the shorter coil than the original. Other than a lower more stiff ride anything else I should be concerned about? Should I just put the old one back in and run it til something breaks? -m From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 17:00:16 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Coil Springs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <754549.76604.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Mark A. O'Neil" wrote: > Other than a lower more stiff ride anything else I > should be > concerned about Make sure the inner diameter of the coils is the same. If not, the coil will slosh around on the cone it sits on. I had a PO situation where it was too close to figure out for some time. Otherwise, party on. Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 17:11:14 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:11:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed In-Reply-To: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> References: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> Message-ID: <4717E812.5080008@comcast.net> Jerry Goodman wrote: > I have a broken halfshaft on the bugeye. The problem is I cannot pull it > out... Like Peter said or I have used a pair of crow bars and levered out the axle. It's no fun when they twist apart. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 17:49:55 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:49:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location Message-ID: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> I just received the new floor pans for my 67. I know from previous floor replacements that the pans do not come with the gas pedal nuts or ground strap nut welded in place. So I am welding them in place before the pans go in the car. Ground strap was no problem, I even saved that piece of old floor. I saved the old gas pedal floor part too and the numbers just do not jive. I am allowing for the 3" toe kick up front. My original pedal nuts were 1.75" and 2.25" back from the toe kick or 4.75 and 5.25 from the front edge of the floor pan. The angle toe kick is 3" from the leading edge of the floor. Also I have 13.5 and 14.25" from the inner sill to the welded nuts. If I use these original measurements, the gas pedal on the new floor will be in the middle of the curve of the depression. And THAT AIN"T RIGHT! I remember making a bracket on Busters car because he had no nuts. On the 58 I put in a 1500 hanging gas pedal so I never bothered with floor mounted gas pedal nuts on that car. My 59 has a sheet of asbestos (type material) under the floor, it also has a 1500 gas pedal and I may have patched the floor on that car too. Either way, I do not have a Spridget to check measurements and I do not want to weld nuts in on the curve of the floor pan. Wrong floor? My bad on the numbers? Or do I install a 1500 gas pedal on my soon to be dead nuts original 67 Sprite? I already have the NOS, BMC gas pedal (floor mount). -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 18 18:18:34 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:18:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location In-Reply-To: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4717F7DA.2020809@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "I remember making a bracket on Busters car because he had no nuts." Thanks a lot, FRIEND! Now everyone knows why I have such a high-pitched voice! And all this time I have told people I just hadn't go through puberty yet! Buster From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 18 18:37:38 2007 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:37:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] real axle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.1.20071018203445.00b25f68@mail.bellsouth.net> This info was measured by me when I had rears from a steel wheel car and a wire wheel car unattached from the bodies prior to crushing. REAR AXLE ASSEMBLY TYPEDIMENSIONMEASUREMENT POINTS STEEL WHEEL DIFF ASSY Over all width*41 3/4 (41.3750")From inside of brake backing plate flange to inside of opposite flange Left Hand Brake rod14 3/4" (14.7500")From center to center of clevis pin holes Right Hand Brake Rod26 1/4" (26.2500")From center to center of clevis pin holes WIRE WHEEL DIFF ASSY Over all width*40 3/4 (40.3750")From inside of brake backing plate flange to inside of opposite flange Left Hand Brake rod14  (14.0000")From center to center of clevis pin holes Right Hand Brake Rod26  (26.0000")From center to center of clevis pin holes *Wire wheel assembly is 1" narrower than steel wheel assy *Wire wheel and steel wheel rear hubs are same except for stud length At 10:44 PM 10/17/2007 -0400, BCAH at aol.com wrote: >Well, I am still trying to figure out just which rear axle I have on the BI. >The PO put wire wheels on it but, of course, that half shaft is shorter that >the solid wheel unit and so will not fully engage the diff. I talked with a >fellow at" Frogeye Spares" in England and he said what they were doing was to >press the splined knock off hub away out from the half shaft and TIG weld it >thus making it all longer. Apparently there is enough meat in the knock off >hub to do this.What happens when your splined hub wears out? Surely you must >be able to press on a new one to the half shaft. I have seen these hubs >available by themselves for about $110. Or does one buy the half shaft and >the >splined hub already connected? How much force do you think is needed? I >have not >seen stronger half shafts advertised for wire wheel cars but I have seen then >for sale for pressed ones.My man in England said that early BI with wire >wheels were just solid wheel cars with splined adaptors bolted on.This combo >might work because I could buy the stronger half shafts for solid wheel >cars and >bolt on the adaptor. Might make the tire stick out more though.As the two >axles are two different sizes ,the hand brake rods would be too. Anyone with >nothing better to do care to send me some measurements, --from center of hole >to center of hole? Thanks---Bob C in KS > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >_ From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Thu Oct 18 18:51:13 2007 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:51:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed In-Reply-To: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> Message-ID: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net> While vintage racing at Daytona a few years ago, a buddy broke an axle. It was bent and shattered at the splined end in the diff. Couldn't get it out from the flanged end. We pulled the other axle and inserted a long 1" dia piece of pipe that was in contact with the opposite (broken) spline and pounded like hell while turning the broken axle. It eventually pushed the broken axle out. At 03:01 PM 10/18/2007 -0500, Jerry Goodman wrote: >I have a broken halfshaft on the bugeye. The problem is I cannot pull it >out....It comes out about 3/8 inch and binds up. I have tryed prying >it..hammering it ...took out other halfshaft...slid right out. Unbolted >differential...but cannot remove because halfshaft stilll engaged. If I turn >halfshaft differential turns ....but in some positions it does not spin diffy >so I feel certain it is a half shaft problem. Open to any ideas >Thank you in advance >Jerry >_______________________________________________ >mgmaven at bellsouth.net > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 >9:54 AM Bob Spruck MGMaven Sharpsburg, GA 67 Midget Vintage Racer 72 Midget Street and Show 6 parts/project cars From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:52:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:52:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed In-Reply-To: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <000d01c811c1$b8c3a910$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710181752r4ed01333la8637edd5c661d01@mail.gmail.com> Can you do that if you don't have a welded diff? I may be confusing it with a Ford diff but don't most diffs have a spider gear shaft in the middle? On 10/18/07, Bob Spruck wrote: > While vintage racing at Daytona a few years ago, a buddy broke an axle. It > was bent and shattered at the splined end in the diff. Couldn't get it out > from the flanged end. We pulled the other axle and inserted a long 1" dia > piece of pipe that was in contact with the opposite (broken) spline and > pounded like hell while turning the broken axle. It eventually pushed the > broken axle out. From jerry.goodman at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 18:58:31 2007 From: jerry.goodman at comcast.net (Jerry Goodman) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:58:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] half is out Message-ID: <003001c811eb$2b7fc640$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> Thanks to everyone for their comments....after lots of trying i put a hammer to work with a little more strength and out it came. Derf ...yes there is a spider gear in the middle if th diffy......a little tapping here and a litlle tapping there and 6 pieces of spined axle popped out of the diffy. Thanks all...will be back on the road in the AM Jerry From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 19:02:19 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:02:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] half is out In-Reply-To: <003001c811eb$2b7fc640$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> References: <003001c811eb$2b7fc640$6901a8c0@JERRYSCOMP> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710181802l7cdbdb5ewfaea6c40e3c96070@mail.gmail.com> OK, good. I pictured you hammering a piece of re-bar into the pinion pin and getting nowhere fast. Sometimes you have to pry out the shaft and use a broomstick or something to push the detached part INTO the diff to remove the carrier. Cheers, Derf From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Thu Oct 18 19:40:41 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:40:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed References: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <006101c811f1$109a5740$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Unfortunately, can't do it that way in a Spridget rear end! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Spruck" To: "Jerry Goodman" ; Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed > While vintage racing at Daytona a few years ago, a buddy broke an axle. It > was bent and shattered at the splined end in the diff. Couldn't get it out > from the flanged end. We pulled the other axle and inserted a long 1" dia > piece of pipe that was in contact with the opposite (broken) spline and > pounded like hell while turning the broken axle. It eventually pushed the > broken axle out. > > > > > > At 03:01 PM 10/18/2007 -0500, Jerry Goodman wrote: > >I have a broken halfshaft on the bugeye. The problem is I cannot pull it > >out....It comes out about 3/8 inch and binds up. I have tryed prying > >it..hammering it ...took out other halfshaft...slid right out. Unbolted > >differential...but cannot remove because halfshaft stilll engaged. If I turn > >halfshaft differential turns ....but in some positions it does not spin diffy > >so I feel certain it is a half shaft problem. Open to any ideas > >Thank you in advance > >Jerry > >_______________________________________________ > >mgmaven at bellsouth.net > > > >Edit your replies > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1077 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 > >9:54 AM > > Bob Spruck > MGMaven > Sharpsburg, GA > 67 Midget Vintage Racer > 72 Midget Street and Show > 6 parts/project cars > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Oct 18 19:46:48 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:46:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed In-Reply-To: <006101c811f1$109a5740$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net> <006101c811f1$109a5740$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <001401c811f1$ec063740$c412a5c0$@com> Actually, one time at Road America, Elmo Mancini the Meatball Magnate from Logantucky broke an axle at the spline end. I ended up swiping a road from a woven lawn chair, (maybe 1/4' diameter) and manipulating it through from the opposite side in order to pound it out. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:41 PM To: Jerry Goodman; Spridgets at autox.team.net; Bob Spruck Subject: Re: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed Unfortunately, can't do it that way in a Spridget rear end! Paul A From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 20:52:43 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:52:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed References: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net><006101c811f1$109a5740$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <001401c811f1$ec063740$c412a5c0$@com> Message-ID: <02db01c811fb$200e7120$6601a8c0@actualshop> I also have assited in one a good number of years ago on a Bugeye in Detwileer Park, Peorao, IL at one of the BEST autox/hillclibs in the country. And twice - 2 diff cars. Ed From cbaustin at verizon.net Thu Oct 18 21:07:53 2007 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] strange problem expert needed References: <4.1.20071018204712.01a82f20@mail.bellsouth.net><006101c811f1$109a5740$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <001401c811f1$ec063740$c412a5c0$@com> <02db01c811fb$200e7120$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <01c201c811fd$3e3f6800$6401a8c0@universal1> "I also have assited in one a good number of years ago on a Bugeye in Detwileer Park, Peorao, IL at one of the BEST autox/hillclibs in the country. And twice - 2 diff cars." "Who can argue with that! Another fine example of frontier gibberish" - Olson Johnson CB From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 19 06:02:35 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:02:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC Message-ID: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> eBay #140169870973 Pretty cool. Who's going to add it to their collection? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:32:32 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:32:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> Peter C? A small Land Rover like thing. On 10/19/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > eBay #140169870973 > > Pretty cool. Who's going to add it to their collection? > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 19 09:41:09 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:41:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Gilroy To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC Peter C? A small Land Rover like thing. ========================= Are you saying Peter C is a small, Land Rover-like thing -- or the Gypsy? Peter emailed me and said it would go well with his Austin Champ and LR's. He said there used to be a few of them near me when he had his store in the area before moving to Mad-Town. I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one more vehicle with no place to store it. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 19 09:52:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:52:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry><441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > more vehicle with no place to store it. The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. First law of LBCs From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 19 09:58:15 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:58:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> At 10:52 AM 10/19/2007, David Lieb wrote: > > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > more vehicle with no place to store it. > >The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. >First law of LBCs But you're not addicted until your vehicle count has fractions..... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 19 10:11:13 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:11:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry><441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com><02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry><010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <030001c8126a$ac850050$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter C" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC At 10:52 AM 10/19/2007, David Lieb wrote: > > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > more vehicle with no place to store it. > >The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. >First law of LBCs But you're not addicted until your vehicle count has fractions..... _______________________________________________ ... and the sum of the fractions equals several more vehicles? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Oct 19 10:48:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:48:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Hi! I'm Robert Duquette and I'm into Midgets, uh ... I mean ... I have an addiction to LBCs. I have 2.8 spridgets in 4 parking spots and several boxes. I've gone over 1.5 years without buying a car or carcass. I started to realize my problem when I bought an Italian car and planned to start stacking these cars in my 2 car garage. I still search ads for these cars, but have refrained from acting upon it lately. It's only a matter of time before I re-offend. I need help. Have I come to the right place? >From: Peter C > >At 10:52 AM 10/19/2007, David Lieb wrote: > > > > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > > more vehicle with no place to store it. > > > >The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > >First law of LBCs > >But you're not addicted until your vehicle count has fractions..... From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 10:52:17 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:52:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <441250190710190952m4efe78e3s3ba5182732ee8cbc@mail.gmail.com> No. On 10/19/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm Robert Duquette and I'm into Midgets, uh ... I mean ... I have an > addiction to LBCs. I have 2.8 spridgets in 4 parking spots and several > boxes. I've gone over 1.5 years without buying a car or carcass. I > started > to realize my problem when I bought an Italian car and planned to start > stacking these cars in my 2 car garage. I still search ads for these > cars, > but have refrained from acting upon it lately. It's only a matter of time > before I re-offend. I need help. Have I come to the right place? From lists at woozy.com Fri Oct 19 11:13:39 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:13:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry><441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4718E5C3.1050000@woozy.com> You can fit a lot more in the available space if you put them up on their sides like Frank does ;-) Robert David Lieb wrote: >> I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one >> more vehicle with no place to store it. >> > > The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > First law of LBCs > _______________________________________________ > lists at woozy.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Oct 19 11:19:19 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:19:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <4718E5C3.1050000@woozy.com> Message-ID: Some people use sort of L shaped racks ( with less than a ninety degree angle ) that are somehow fastened to the bottom of the car on the long end of the L. Then it is tipped up onto the short end of the L giving you a car that's on its side but not touching the ground. Not sure how they tip it. >From: Robert Weeks > >You can fit a lot more in the available space if you put them up on >their sides like Frank does ;-) > >Robert > >David Lieb wrote: > >> I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > >> more vehicle with no place to store it. > >> > > > > The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > > First law of LBCs From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 19 11:25:44 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:25:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC References: Message-ID: <031b01c81275$1566a060$6401a8c0@Larry> The advantage of stacking LBC's one above another is that you never have to worry about the convertible tops on the lower ones rusting. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC Some people use sort of L shaped racks ( with less than a ninety degree angle ) that are somehow fastened to the bottom of the car on the long end of the L. Then it is tipped up onto the short end of the L giving you a car that's on its side but not touching the ground. Not sure how they tip it. >From: Robert Weeks > >You can fit a lot more in the available space if you put them up on >their sides like Frank does ;-) > >Robert > >David Lieb wrote: > >> I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > >> more vehicle with no place to store it. > >> > > > > The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > > First law of LBCs _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 5:47 PM From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Oct 19 11:29:40 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:29:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <030001c8126a$ac850050$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> <030001c8126a$ac850050$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Is that like explaning it to your wife that it really *is* a 2 and a half car garage? ----- Original Message ----- > > At 10:52 AM 10/19/2007, David Lieb wrote: > > > > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > > more vehicle with no place to store it. > > > >The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > >First law of LBCs > > But you're not addicted until your vehicle count has > fractions..... > _______________________________________________ > > ... and the sum of the fractions equals several more vehicles? > _______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Fri Oct 19 11:38:37 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:38:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <030001c8126a$ac850050$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <023201c81247$f07d4a60$6401a8c0@Larry> <441250190710190832l48bc07bfy4f4de86dc2a875d2@mail.gmail.com> <02e901c81266$78f81eb0$6401a8c0@Larry> <010201c81267$feeebf50$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <7.0.1.0.2.20071019105722.034e6208@nosimport.com> <030001c8126a$ac850050$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071019123418.0361bd58@nosimport.com> At 11:11 AM 10/19/2007, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > > more vehicle with no place to store it. > > > >The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > >First law of LBCs > >But you're not addicted until your vehicle count has fractions..... >_______________________________________________ > >... and the sum of the fractions equals several more vehicles? No, unfortunately, the math isn't that simple. There needs to be a multiplier of time and energy. I think Albert E. was getting close.... From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Oct 19 11:40:06 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:40:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC References: Message-ID: <000801c81277$166f4be0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Sounds like a good idea until you look at the Gypsy. That little bugger is a cube with some nicks out of it. It would take up as much space on its side as it does on its wheels. Glen > Some people use sort of L shaped racks ( with less than a ninety degree > angle ) that are somehow fastened to the bottom of the car on the long end > of the L. Then it is tipped up onto the short end of the L giving you a > car > that's on its side but not touching the ground. Not sure how they tip it. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Oct 19 13:17:01 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:17:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 AUSTIN GYPSY 2.2 DIESEL CLASSIC In-Reply-To: <031b01c81275$1566a060$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: Keep the tops down and protect the floors in the lower ones. >From: "Larry Daniels" > >The advantage of stacking LBC's one above another is that you never have to >worry about the convertible tops on the lower ones rusting. > > >LAD > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Duquette" > >Some people use sort of L shaped racks ( with less than a ninety degree >angle ) that are somehow fastened to the bottom of the car on the long end >of the L. Then it is tipped up onto the short end of the L giving you a >car >that's on its side but not touching the ground. Not sure how they tip it. > > > >From: Robert Weeks > > > >You can fit a lot more in the available space if you put them up on > >their sides like Frank does ;-) > > > >Robert > > > >David Lieb wrote: > > >> I wouldn't mind finding one -- like I need one > > >> more vehicle with no place to store it. > > >> > > > > > > The vehicles multiply until they exceed the available space. > > > First law of LBCs From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Oct 19 18:41:49 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Oil Filter Setup Wanted Message-ID: <215a4a59c1fa5361aa7a211a.20071019174149.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Does anyone have a stock 1275 spin on oil filter setup including the connection pipe and bolt they would like to sell? When I built my 1275 I used an aftermarket Moss filter adapter that had to be ground to fit in one spot. It turns out to be part of my oil leak problem. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite (Still hoping against hope to be at the 50th) 56 BN2 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Oct 19 20:04:44 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Oil Filter Setup Wanted In-Reply-To: <377426.41966.qm@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <215a4a59c1fa5361aa7a211a.20071019174149.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <377426.41966.qm@web36415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ec0a7dd0a74e0aab30a.20071019190444.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Thanks all. A setup has been located and offered by a generous list member. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Oct 20 03:15:39 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:15:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location Message-ID: IMHO.... go with the later, hanging pedal. Solves the problem. And the fewer un-necessary holes in the metal, the better? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 09:28:01 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:28:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location In-Reply-To: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430710200828m5fb79a15w8d22808baab04aee@mail.gmail.com> Hi Frank, Will you be doing any rocker work on your 67? I am headed down to the VW Festival on Sunday in Englishtown so maybe I'll stop by and check out the progress. BTW I'm sure Frank Jr. knows about the VW show already but here is the link just in case he and his VW friends are interested. BTW I finally got to view your new 67 today. You are an inspiration to all the LBC's out there. You ROCK! *http://www.gti16v.com/eng2sho.htm#eng2sho* Lin On 10/18/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > I just received the new floor pans for my 67. > I know from previous floor replacements that the pans do not come with > the gas pedal nuts or ground strap nut welded in place. > So I am welding them in place before the pans go in the car. > Ground strap was no problem, I even saved that piece of old floor. > I saved the old gas pedal floor part too and the numbers just do not jive. > I am allowing for the 3" toe kick up front. > My original pedal nuts were 1.75" and 2.25" back from the toe kick > or 4.75 and 5.25 from the front edge of the floor pan. The angle toe > kick is 3" from the leading edge of the floor. > Also I have 13.5 and 14.25" from the inner sill to the welded nuts. > If I use these original measurements, the gas pedal on the new floor > will be in the middle of the curve of the depression. > And THAT AIN"T RIGHT! I remember making a bracket on Busters car because > he had no nuts. > On the 58 I put in a 1500 hanging gas pedal so I never bothered with > floor mounted gas pedal nuts on that car. > My 59 has a sheet of asbestos (type material) under the floor, it also > has a 1500 gas pedal and I may have patched the floor on that car too. > Either way, I do not have a Spridget to check measurements and I do not > want to weld nuts in on the curve of the floor pan. > Wrong floor? My bad on the numbers? Or do I install a 1500 gas pedal on > my soon to be dead nuts original 67 Sprite? I already have the NOS, BMC > gas pedal (floor mount). > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 09:30:49 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:30:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location In-Reply-To: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710200830s59df6ac3g220eadbae324c937@mail.gmail.com> I have a 1500 pedal, if you want it. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 20 09:41:19 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:41:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> <5f00d9910710200830s59df6ac3g220eadbae324c937@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <009001c8132f$a9303a80$0301a8c0@midget> >I have a 1500 pedal, if you want it. Shame on you, Derf!!! The man is trying to do a proper restoration of a 1967 Sprite and you are trying to tempt him away from the straight and narrow. How could you?? As penance, send that pedal to me immediately so he cannot be tempted any further. Do you really think that this quandary is any kind of a challenge for the mighty Frankster? David Lieb 105 N Cedar St Palatine, IL 60067-4906 From wsthompson at thicko.com Sat Oct 20 09:43:00 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:43:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/2 floors Message-ID: <000c01c8132f$e66ea260$b34be720$@com> OK, so, many of us bringing old rotten Spridgets back to life buy the commonly available replacement floors, and weld them in. On occasion, however, youll find you only need a half of a floor, depending on the rot, how the car was stored, weather it rotted bottom up or topside down. Then, sometimes you only need = of that (a < floor either seat area, or footwell area) Anyone have any extra footwell sections? Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii You would think something as simple as an oil pressure hose and two small clamps would be easy to find locally (Mo$$ part no. 361-765), but apparently that isn't the case. Has anybody found an easily obtained substitute that works? The piece of old rubber hose and twisted wire the PO used isn't doing the trick. Thanks. Jim Pickard B9473298 ('65 Tiger) AN5L/12109 ('59 Sprite) 2003 Mini Cooper Lafayette, LA From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 20 10:18:27 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:18:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1/2 floors Message-ID: <380-2200710620161827875@earthlink.net> Sorry, Flounder, you are too late. I needed only bits and pieces replaced, and so only used bits and pieces. So, I threw the rest of the floor pans in the trash last week. Now that they have resuscitated you with the electric paddles, I will admit I was just winding you up. No, I was able to give those new, but unneeded leftover pieces to good, appreciative homes. Buster > [Original Message] > From: Wm. Severin Thompson > To: > Date: 10/20/2007 8:42:54 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] 1/2 floors > > OK, so, many of us bringing old rotten Spridgets back to life buy the > commonly available replacement floors, and weld them in. On occasion, > however, youll find you only need a half of a floor, depending on the rot, > how the car was stored, weather it rotted bottom up or topside down. Then, > sometimes you only need = of that (a < floor either seat area, or footwell > area) > > Anyone have any extra footwell sections? > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > ~iii > wsthompson at thicko.com > www.thicko.com > _______________________________________________ > b-evans at earthlink.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Sat Oct 20 10:31:14 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Crackhead in Roseville CA with 1961 Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Project - $6900 (Roseville) Message-ID: NFI, etc. http://tinyurl.com/22w265 "no evidence of rust" . . "he floorboards have rusted through on both sides especially the drivers side From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Oct 20 10:32:08 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: <4400ab700aaa00af200a.20071020093208.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Sorry to bomb the list, but wondering if anyone on the list is into old BB guns or has an old Crossman M1 Carbine they might like to sell? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 20 11:23:28 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:23:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location In-Reply-To: <009001c8132f$a9303a80$0301a8c0@midget> References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> <5f00d9910710200830s59df6ac3g220eadbae324c937@mail.gmail.com> <009001c8132f$a9303a80$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710201023x2d8b5c73na3f532ef5e7c5049@mail.gmail.com> Frank and I are both "function before fashion" types. If he doesn't want the pedal, you can have it for shipping costs. He will have to decide if he wants his 67 original or not. I painted it black and it is ready to go. Cheers, Derf From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Oct 20 13:32:58 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:32:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: Guess that oil pressure problem has really gotten to you and it's not that I don't understand Spridget problems can drive one to distraction, but..... ....do you really think a gun will solve the problem?? Don't do it, Mike!!! Maybe Frank can fly out and solve the problem??? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Oct 20 14:19:27 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8844a16eb7a154aaa1e4f2a.20071020131927.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> If it got that bad there are more appropriate arms in the arsenal. It's just that I am multi-faceted. Yeah, that's it. Mike Robert E. Shlafer > Guess that oil pressure problem has really > gotten to you and it's not that I don't > understand Spridget problems can drive one to distraction, but..... > > ....do you really think a gun will solve the > problem?? > > Don't do it, Mike!!! Maybe Frank can fly out > and solve the problem??? > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Oct 20 14:48:06 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:48:06 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: Oh...ok, Mike...thought you'd reached the end of your rope there!! :):) You got your oil pressure problem sorted? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Oct 20 15:01:32 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <880a16e0a1540a1e40a.20071020140132.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Sorta. Moss can't find any oil pressure relief springs because the bin with the spring part number has connecting rod bolt washers in it. They have sent 2 washers so far. They have no idea where the oil pressure relief springs could be. APT is out of stock on the springs, but Phil gave me a used spring with the correct free length, so I put it in. The oil pressure dropped to read just above 60 at 3000 rpm and just below 40 at idle, but, and this is a big but, my pressure gage read low the last time I checked it against a calibrated gage by 15 PSI. I will have to check it again to see if it has changed. The bigger problem now is losing oil at the rate of 1 quart for 20 minutes of driving. There was a slight leak when this all started, but since I changed the oil and filter it got worse. I mangled the STP oil filter I removed trying to get it off the Moss after market adapter. Couple this to the fact that Gerard told me he had to do some grinding on the adapter to get it to fit against the block. I'm betting the Moss adapter may be at the root of all of the problems. I need to put a stock spin on filter setup on the 1275 and see what difference it makes before I start to yank the engine for disassembly. See, sorta sorted. Mike Robert E. Shlafer > Oh...ok, Mike...thought you'd reached the end of your rope there!! :):) > > You got your oil pressure problem sorted? > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Oct 20 15:34:40 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:34:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: Well.... if your gage read low by 15psi last time you checked it...then adding 15psi to the high reading would give you around 75 psi at 3k rpm, which.....would be about right where it should be for a "new" motor built to "mid" to "close" tolerances, ass-u-me(ng) a correct oil pressure reliefe valve set-up. Not to spend your money but....why not call Don Racine over at MiniMania and see what he might have on hand for a "correct" spin-on filter assembly (or perhaps he could direct you, accordingly) as the Moss unit should have fit a normal in-lilne Series A, (assuming the correct part) with no fettling at all. I can understand why you're suspicious of it under the circumstances. I'd be, too. Incidentally, as you know, anything over 60psi (hot) on a daily driver at 3k just "drags" the motor, causes foaming/heating of the oil and does nothing for lubrication....just the opposite according to the experts (you can confirm this with Don) so you might give some thought to the "adjustable" valve once you KNOW where the "hot" high end oil pressure really falls, should it be substantially over 60psi at 3k. I mean, after all, you've spent good bucks on the "new" motor. What's a few dollars more (relatively speaking) to "insure" it, so to speak, oil being it's lifeblood. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Oct 20 16:01:56 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put out a call on the list for a stock setup and a list member has come to my aid with a filter setup at a reasonable price. I'll replace that first and get back to you on the oil pressure readings. It may also help with the leak also. Mike Robert E. Shlafer > Well.... > > if your gage read low by 15psi last time you checked it...then adding > 15psi to the high reading would give you around 75 psi at 3k rpm, > which.....would be about right where it should be for a "new" motor built > to "mid" > to "close" tolerances, ass-u-me(ng) > a correct oil pressure reliefe valve set-up. > > Not to spend your money but....why not call > Don Racine over at MiniMania and see what he might have on hand for a > "correct" > spin-on filter assembly (or perhaps he could direct you, accordingly) as > the Moss unit should have fit a normal in-lilne Series A, (assuming the > correct part) with no > fettling at all. > > I can understand why you're suspicious of it > under the circumstances. I'd be, too. > > Incidentally, as you know, anything over > 60psi (hot) on a daily driver at 3k just "drags" the motor, causes > foaming/heating of the oil and does > nothing for lubrication....just the opposite > according to the experts (you can confirm this with Don) so you might give > some thought to the "adjustable" valve once you > KNOW where the "hot" high end oil pressure really falls, should it be > substantially over 60psi at 3k. > > I mean, after all, you've spent good bucks on the "new" motor. What's a > few dollars > more (relatively speaking) to "insure" it, so to speak, oil being it's > lifeblood. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 20 16:26:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:26:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas pedal bolt hole location In-Reply-To: <009001c8132f$a9303a80$0301a8c0@midget> References: <4717F123.7030706@comcast.net> <5f00d9910710200830s59df6ac3g220eadbae324c937@mail.gmail.com> <009001c8132f$a9303a80$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <471A80A2.3060501@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >> I have a 1500 pedal, if you want it. > > Shame on you, Derf!!! > The man is trying to do a proper restoration of a 1967 Sprite Yeah, proper but the floor pans are dead wrong so I'll save my NOS floor mounted pedal and put on a 1500 pedal. I already have one so Thanks Derf, now you can send it to David. David, this is gonna cost you at least a beer :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 20 16:33:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:33:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Crackhead in Roseville CA with 1961 Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Project - $6900 (Roseville) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471A824F.7010602@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > NFI, etc. > > http://tinyurl.com/22w265 > "no evidence of rust" And no floors! And you laugh when I said MY Sprite is worth $75,000. Well if someone offers that much it's sold in a heartbeat ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Oct 20 16:37:33 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:37:33 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: "oil filter set-up at reasonable price..." Excellent... :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 20 16:51:19 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:51:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Crackhead in Roseville CA with 1961 Austin HealeyBugeye Frogeye Project - $6900 (Roseville) Message-ID: <380-2200710620225119203@earthlink.net> Hey, ease up, guys! What price can you put on pride? And he is VERY proud!!! Buster > [Original Message] > From: Frank Clarici > To: Hal Faulkner > Cc: Spridgets > Date: 10/20/2007 3:36:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Crackhead in Roseville CA with 1961 Austin HealeyBugeye Frogeye Project - $6900 (Roseville) > > Hal Faulkner wrote: > > NFI, etc. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/22w265 > > "no evidence of rust" > > And no floors! > And you laugh when I said MY Sprite is worth $75,000. > Well if someone offers that much it's sold in a heartbeat ;) > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > b-evans at earthlink.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sat Oct 20 18:45:38 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:45:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Airguns - No LBC Message-ID: <5009834.1192927538958.JavaMail.root@wmvirt44> ....do you really think a gun will solve the problem?? Hey, Mike live in California! All he has to do is tell his insurance company that he drove through a drive-by shooting and his engine took a couple of hits. The insurance company buys him a new engine and paint job... No problem! Ed From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 21 06:38:32 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:38:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update Message-ID: <001c01c813df$4c2cfa70$e486ef50$@com> Hey y'all, I've got confirmation that Mary (the widow that sold me a Bugeye and the 4 raccoon pooh laden parts cars) has confirmed that she and her son will participate in SOS '07. She kept one Bugeye because her son wanted a car that his late father had owned, and she kept the MKI Midget that she and her husband had their first date in. That car has been sitting many years. We'll trailer the car over from Madison to the Dream Farm, and assess the overall condition. We'll see if we can get it running, shifting, starting and stopping. essentially make a drivable vehicle for her. We have numerous other projects on tap. We'll have some special guests, some great food, and as always, broadcast the event in real time with 2 way audience communication via Yahoo Messenger. SOS '07 is held at the Dream Farm (between Fond du Lac and Oshkosh, WI) on Fri & Sat after Thanksgiving. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Oct 21 07:01:48 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update In-Reply-To: <001c01c813df$4c2cfa70$e486ef50$@com> Message-ID: <892340.60360.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- "Wm. Severin Thompson" wrote: > SOS '07 is held at the Dream Farm (between Fond du > Lac and Oshkosh, WI) on > Fri & Sat after Thanksgiving. WITH go cart track, I might add! See: http://ourdreamfarm.com/Dream%20Farm%20aerial.htmhttp://ourdreamfarm.com/Dream%20Farm%20aerial.htm Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Oct 21 07:31:16 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 06:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update In-Reply-To: <892340.60360.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <273902.30058.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> oops-A view so nice I typed it twice. Try: http://ourdreamfarm.com/Dream%20Farm%20aerial.htm Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun Oct 21 07:42:36 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:42:36 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Need a photo Message-ID: www.nisonger.com probably less costly considering they'll give you a core credit for your used, repairable gauge. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From nases at verizon.net Sun Oct 21 07:52:09 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:52:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update In-Reply-To: <273902.30058.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <892340.60360.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <273902.30058.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c813e9$93cb96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Who's putting down all that rubber on the road at the end of the driveway? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update oops-A view so nice I typed it twice. Try: http://ourdreamfarm.com/Dream%20Farm%20aerial.htm From mconn19221 at roadrunner.com Sun Oct 21 08:46:22 2007 From: mconn19221 at roadrunner.com (Michael Conn) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:46:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update References: <892340.60360.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com><273902.30058.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000001c813e9$93cb96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <000e01c813f1$266af910$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Not me. Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: ; Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update > Who's putting down all that rubber on the road at the end of the driveway? > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update > > oops-A view so nice I typed it twice. Try: > > http://ourdreamfarm.com/Dream%20Farm%20aerial.htm > _______________________________________________ > mconn19221 at roadrunner.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Sun Oct 21 09:27:51 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:27:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 projects update In-Reply-To: <000e01c813f1$266af910$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> References: <892340.60360.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com><273902.30058.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000001c813e9$93cb96c0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> <000e01c813f1$266af910$020fa8c0@YOURD28EB17757> Message-ID: <000001c813f6$f38ac6a0$daa053e0$@com> Might be my Dodge 1 ton turbo diesel High Output dually. ;) > Who's putting down all that rubber on the road at the end of the driveway? > > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 12:09:07 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 13:09:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LIST CONTENT: Gun stock needed Message-ID: Anyone have a lead on an A2 stock, for a good price? Regular price is around $65, so you know what the range is. -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 21 14:47:14 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:47:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LIST CONTENT: Gun stock needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710211347n37aa23f6racbf370719d0a07@mail.gmail.com> Cheaperthandirt.com cdnninvestments.com Are you wanting one for an M-16 or something else. I have a few A2 stocks for HK G3s that I don't need. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sun Oct 21 21:23:48 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Turbo EFI comes alive !! Message-ID: <200710220323.l9M3Nmm7012515@melipona.ucdavis.edu> It was breadboarded, with the fuel coming out of a gallon can into a pump sitting on the garage floor, but it ran! I finished the manifold this afternoon and finally dealed tha last leak in the fuel rail. I still haven't plumbed the new pump/filter/return line into the car, so I did it up like a heart bypass patient with lines snaking in and out. I fired up the engine and it went right up to about 3K RPM due to the Ford idle air valve. Too big a "leak" for this motor and will need to be modified or pulled the heck off. The computer was going through warmup enrichment mode and sounding real smooth when the fuel pump sucked up a big bubble from the mower can and quit. I was shaking!! There's lots of tuning to do, things to tweak, tables to calculate and test runs to be made after I get all the fuel plumbing done over the next few evenings. Here's the links to the pics of the new toy: http://tinyurl.com/2pvnfh http://tinyurl.com/2utxg4 Best, Glen Byrns From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Oct 22 01:06:35 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:06:35 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] rocker shaft and head studs..correct procedure Message-ID: <830746.11756.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ok! So the 1275 is in and it runs... it sounds a bit tappetty , so I am going to swap the rocker assembly with the one on my 1098. Both are pressed steel type of rockers. What is acceptable procedure for this? Should I undo all of the head studs, in the reverse order to that which I tightened them...then change the rockers? do I need to fit a new head gasket? OR Should i just undo the studs that hold the rockers on, then change rockers and refit the nuts and retension? cheers Andy --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 22 07:45:20 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:45:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Turbo EFI comes alive !! In-Reply-To: <200710220323.l9M3Nmm7012515@melipona.ucdavis.edu> References: <200710220323.l9M3Nmm7012515@melipona.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071022084352.03666d88@nosimport.com> Glen, I gotta say the most beautiful part of the latest iteration is the Smiths PCV valve. Love it! Nice work. Peter C. ============ At 10:23 PM 10/21/2007, you wrote: >It was breadboarded, with the fuel coming out of a gallon can into a pump >sitting on the garage floor, but it ran! >I finished the manifold this afternoon and finally dealed tha last leak >in the fuel rail. I still haven't plumbed the new pump/filter/return >line into the car, so I did it up like a heart bypass patient with lines >snaking in and out. >I fired up the engine and it went right up to about 3K RPM due to the >Ford idle air valve. Too big a "leak" for this motor and will need to be >modified or pulled the heck off. The computer was going through warmup >enrichment mode and sounding real smooth when the fuel pump sucked up a >big bubble from the mower can and quit. I was shaking!! > >There's lots of tuning to do, things to tweak, tables to calculate and >test runs to be made after I get all the fuel plumbing done over the next >few evenings. > >Here's the links to the pics of the new toy: >http://tinyurl.com/2pvnfh >http://tinyurl.com/2utxg4 > >Best, >Glen Byrns From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 22 08:16:45 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:16:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Turbo EFI comes alive !! References: <200710220323.l9M3Nmm7012515@melipona.ucdavis.edu> <7.0.1.0.2.20071022084352.03666d88@nosimport.com> Message-ID: <000c01c814b6$2dca3890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Glen, I gotta say the most beautiful part of the latest iteration is > the Smiths PCV valve. > Love it! Nice work. I was admiring that as well. What happens when the manifold is pressurized? How does the Smiths PCV handle that? David From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 22 08:27:19 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:27:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Turbo EFI comes alive !! References: <200710220323.l9M3Nmm7012515@melipona.ucdavis.edu><7.0.1.0.2.20071022084352.03666d88@nosimport.com> <000c01c814b6$2dca3890$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <000401c814b7$a77bfab0$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Easy question, its ahead of the turbo, not behind it. The rubber washer on top of the gulp valve is to tighten the top wire clamp which is homemade since the original little piece of wire went south. Glen >> Glen, I gotta say the most beautiful part of the latest iteration is >> the Smiths PCV valve. >> Love it! Nice work. > > I was admiring that as well. What happens when the manifold > is pressurized? How does the Smiths PCV handle that? > David From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 22 09:02:31 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:02:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071022100002.037d4fe0@mailbag.com> Remember the girls' Bugeye? It's upon eBay. Pricier than when auctioned eBay # 250178223763 Peter C, From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 22 09:20:23 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071022100002.037d4fe0@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <001401c814bf$11886680$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I cannot be sure from the pictures... is that a gold Sprite arrow on the boot or chrome ;-) ED (oops, I forgot to use enough capital letters and funny puctuation marks; no one will believe it is Ed! ) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 22 10:15:07 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:15:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <001401c814bf$11886680$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Careful! We know where you live! "puctuation"? >From: "David Lieb" > >I cannot be sure from the pictures... is that a gold Sprite arrow >on the boot or chrome ;-) >ED > >(oops, I forgot to use enough capital letters and funny puctuation >marks; no one will believe it is Ed! ) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 22 10:35:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale References: Message-ID: <001801c814c9$989cbd10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Careful! We know where you live! > > "puctuation"? Yes, a belated effort to sound more probable ;-) I don't believe you. You woulda stopped by if you did. Next time you happen to be in Palatine... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 22 10:59:13 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:13 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <001801c814c9$989cbd10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Okay, so I don't know where you live; but someone in the 'we' category must. I've never been that far west. I've only been as far as Kitchener on the Canadian side and Buffalo on the US side. I'm just not that well travelled. People keep telling me to go away ... >From: "David Lieb" > > > Careful! We know where you live! > > > > "puctuation"? > >Yes, a belated effort to sound more probable ;-) > >I don't believe you. You woulda stopped by if you did. >Next time you happen to be in Palatine... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 11:14:00 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:14:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: References: <001801c814c9$989cbd10$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: It's cuz your a Canuk!! LOL On 10/22/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > Okay, so I don't know where you live; but someone in the 'we' category must. > I've never been that far west. I've only been as far as Kitchener on the > Canadian side and Buffalo on the US side. I'm just not that well travelled. > People keep telling me to go away ... > > > > >From: "David Lieb" > > > > > Careful! We know where you live! > > > > > > "puctuation"? > > > >Yes, a belated effort to sound more probable ;-) > > > >I don't believe you. You woulda stopped by if you did. > >Next time you happen to be in Palatine... > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 22 11:20:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale References: Message-ID: <002401c814cf$e467e8e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Okay, so I don't know where you live. You should, I just emailed it to the group a few days ago. "Go West, young man, go West" As Horace Greeley advised the guy. Of course, he was telling him to go to Pittsburgh... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 22 11:24:27 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:24:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No, it's the people that know me that tell me to go away ... ;) >From: "Brad Fornal" > >It's cuz your a Canuk!! > >LOL > >On 10/22/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > Okay, so I don't know where you live; but someone in the 'we' category >must. > > I've never been that far west. I've only been as far as Kitchener on >the > > Canadian side and Buffalo on the US side. I'm just not that well >travelled. > > People keep telling me to go away ... > > > > > > > > >From: "David Lieb" > > > > > > > Careful! We know where you live! > > > > > > > > "puctuation"? > > > > > >Yes, a belated effort to sound more probable ;-) > > > > > >I don't believe you. You woulda stopped by if you did. > > >Next time you happen to be in Palatine... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 22 11:52:35 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:52:35 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <002401c814cf$e467e8e0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: As someone on the list told me not too many days ago, the memory is the second thing to go. Hmmm! Google tells me I could drive to San Fran in 32 hours. 29 hours to Houston. >From: "David Lieb" > > > Okay, so I don't know where you live. > >You should, I just emailed it to the group a few days ago. >"Go West, young man, go West" As Horace Greeley advised the guy. Of course, >he was telling him to go to Pittsburgh... From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 12:13:31 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:13:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale Message-ID: <380-22007101221813310@earthlink.net> Peter C. wrote: "Remember the girls' Bugeye? It's upon eBay. Pricier than when auctioned" Nice to see some of my old parts, again! Buster From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 22 12:17:30 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:17:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <380-22007101221813310@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Please, this is a family list!!! >From: "Robert Bruce Evans" > >Nice to see some of my old parts, again! > >Buster From peter at nosimport.com Mon Oct 22 12:21:16 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:21:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <380-22007101221813310@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007101221813310@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071022132049.03a8a9e8@nosimport.com> At 01:13 PM 10/22/2007, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >Peter C. wrote: "Remember the girls' Bugeye? It's upon eBay. Pricier >than when auctioned" > >Nice to see some of my old parts, again! > >Buster === New diet? VBG Ed From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 12:24:26 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:24:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale Message-ID: <380-2200710122182426968@earthlink.net> David Lieb wrote: "I cannot be sure from the pictures... is that a gold Sprite arrow on the boot or chrome" Oh, NO! Let's not go to the the gold or chrome arrow, again. For what it's worth, when Frank and I went to the BMIHT at Gaydon, Richard Bacchus and Richard Brotherton, the lads in the records office, told us that the original arrows were "gold", and at some time later, the chrome ones were made by the factory as an after-market item. Buster Evans From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 12:29:45 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:29:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071022132049.03a8a9e8@nosimport.com> References: <380-22007101221813310@earthlink.net> <7.0.1.0.2.20071022132049.03a8a9e8@nosimport.com> Message-ID: Not a new diet, old Bermuda shorts..... On 10/22/07, Peter C wrote: > At 01:13 PM 10/22/2007, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > >Peter C. wrote: "Remember the girls' Bugeye? It's upon eBay. Pricier > >than when auctioned" > > > >Nice to see some of my old parts, again! > > > >Buster > === > > New diet? > > > > VBG > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 12:32:25 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:32:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale Message-ID: <380-2200710122183225515@earthlink.net> Robert Duquette wrote: "Please, this is a family list!!!" Oops. Sorry, Greg. Buste From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Oct 22 12:33:28 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:33:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I've only been as far as Kitchener Kitchner made it all the way to the Nile. From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 12:41:13 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:41:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Sprite Bugeye for Sale on Ebay Message-ID: <380-2200710122184113187@earthlink.net> Mike MacLean wrote: "Not to mention the incorrect windshield for a 58." Or the circumcised overflow pipes on the SU's. (Of course, cutting the excess off was one of the first things people did when buying the new car.) Buster Evans From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 22 12:59:38 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:59:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale References: Message-ID: <003e01c814dd$b2f88ae0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> I've only been as far as Kitchener > Kitchner made it all the way to the Nile. Yes, but the Nile is in the Middle East and that can't be very far West, can it? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 13:01:43 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:01:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale In-Reply-To: <003e01c814dd$b2f88ae0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <003e01c814dd$b2f88ae0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710221201n6a0dfb46j8087dc737b726eb@mail.gmail.com> Oh, I don't know... Cairo is in southern Illinois, isn't it? On 10/22/07, David Lieb wrote: > >> I've only been as far as Kitchener > > Kitchner made it all the way to the Nile. > > Yes, but the Nile is in the Middle East and that can't be very far West, can > it? > _______________________________________________ > bmwwxman at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 13:05:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:05:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Girls' BE for sale Message-ID: <380-220071012219554328@earthlink.net> Billy Zoom wrote: "Kitchener made it all the way to the Nile." Not that it did poor old Charles George Gordon any good. His head had already been presented to the Mahdi on a pike after the fall of Khartoum. Buster Evan From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 22 14:40:05 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can someone measure? Message-ID: <471D0AA5.9040904@comcast.net> I am replacing the prop rods on the bonnet and boot lid of my 67 Sprite with the better designed click sticks. But they mount differently than the prop sticks. I can make the brackets easy enough but where do I weld them on the bonnet, fender lip, boot lid, and boot lip? I do not have a click stick midget nearby to check these measurements. I have the click sticks. If anyone can send me the measurements, I would appreciate it. And the width of the brackets would help too. Just pick a spot like the front or rear lip of the hood or truck and measure from there in a straight line or something relatively simple. Maybe tell me where the front and back edges of the brackets are so I can weld them on in the right spot. All 4 brackets. Thanks -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 22 14:43:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] rocker shaft and head studs..correct procedure In-Reply-To: <830746.11756.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <830746.11756.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <471D0B87.2030004@comcast.net> If you undo 1/2 the head nuts, you should undo all of them. You do not have to remove the head but be sure to drain the coolant down to below the head. Remove the top of the bottom hose and let it drain down to the water pump snoot. Undo the rocker nuts first then undo the head nuts starting from the middle and working out. Loosen them a little at a time until all are finger loose, then remove the side with the rockers, the other side can stay on but if you do not loosen them you may warp or crack the head. Tighten and torque from the middle out too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 14:56:56 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:56:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap Message-ID: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Early in November, I will finally get to dig into the 1275 looking for the damned little metal scrap that I knocked down through the valve cover into the rockers and push-rods. Before I go crazy with obsessing over finding this pencil lead sized bit (about 1/16" x 1/16" in size) what are the chances that it could go down the push-rod hole and make it all the way into the oil pan? - Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 22 14:57:56 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:57:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471D0ED4.4010000@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > Spridgeteers, > > what are the chances that it could go down the push-rod hole > and make it all the way into the oil pan? Jim, Anybody else and it would make it to the oil pan. But for you, your chances are slim to none. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 22 15:18:20 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:18:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01c814f1$12c6ee40$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Before I did all that hard work, I'd consider shoving a small magnet into the end of a piece of small diameter flexible tubing and poking it throuygh the dizzy hole and fishing around the pan for at least 15 minutes before I tore the engine apart. (an old model airplane plastic pushrod works well) Another approach is to stick a big flat magnet to the bottom of the oil pan with some epoxy and pray a lot. If, however, the teardown is a sure thing, stop after removing the head and pushrods and do the magnet bit inside each pushrod bore and inside each lifter. If the little bit shows up, the teardown is over and Bob's your uncle! Glen > Spridgeteers, > > Early in November, I will finally get to dig into the 1275 looking for > the damned little metal scrap that I knocked down through the valve > cover into the rockers and push-rods. Before I go crazy with > obsessing over finding this pencil lead sized bit (about 1/16" x 1/16" > in size) what are the chances that it could go down the push-rod hole > and make it all the way into the oil pan? > > - > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 15:22:18 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:22:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710221422w448b858aib5011cc6414c0058@mail.gmail.com> If the motor has been run then there is no telling where it might be. In the filter? If not it is probably sitting in the lifter cavity, right where you saw it fall. Pull the pushrods, and do the magnet thing. From bpazur at excel.net Mon Oct 22 15:26:15 2007 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:26:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed Message-ID: <200710222126.l9MLQFsk016219@green.excel.net> I am still looking for definitive help to modify my rear leaf springs to improve the harsh ride, lower the rear, and improve handling. Long ago, before I knew any better, I bought and installed Moss springs. I would like to know if, and exactly how, anyone has done this successfully. There was a Brian in CA who said he changed the order of the stacking of the leaves, but I can't contact him. At the Cap'n's suggestion, I emailed Tom Colby at Speedwell, who is supposed to know which leaves are to be removed, but he didn't reply. Thanks for any help. This is going to be a SOS '07 project. My present setup can be seen at: http://tinyurl.com/32754s Note how high the rear is jacked up. Bud Pazur From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Oct 22 15:54:20 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:54:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.co m> References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <69cq7p$1mt9g3@email.mtu.edu> Jim, Did you try a powerful shop vacuum? When you folks need powerful magnets, get them from a junked microwave oven. The magnitron has two very powerful magnets each about 1/2" thick and 2" in diameter with about a 3/4" hole. When you open the microwave just poke around with a steel rod to locate the magnitron if you aren't familiar with the innards of a microwave. Just BE SURE that you stay clear of the BIG capacitor. Best bet is to short the posts of the capacitor with your metal rod, then go poking for the magnets. Old big computer disk drives have some dandy magnets in them too. Both microwaves and drive magnets are powerful enough to give you a blood blister if some skin gets caught between them. And, you get to take something apart you have no intention of every trying to put back together!! At 04:56 PM 10/22/2007, Jim Johnson wrote: >Spridgeteers, > >Early in November, I will finally get to dig into the 1275 looking for >the damned little metal scrap that I knocked down through the valve >cover into the rockers and push-rods. Before I go crazy with >obsessing over finding this pencil lead sized bit (about 1/16" x 1/16" >in size) what are the chances that it could go down the push-rod hole >and make it all the way into the oil pan? > >- Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Oct 22 15:59:25 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:59:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed In-Reply-To: <200710222126.l9MLQFsk016219@green.excel.net> References: <200710222126.l9MLQFsk016219@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <000001c814f6$d167a4c0$7436ee40$@com> Bud, per usual, you're obsessing way too much over this. You pull a couple of springs, and turn them in to lowering blocks, and voila, the job's done. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:26 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed I am still looking for definitive help to modify my rear leaf springs to improve the harsh ride, lower the rear, and improve handling. Long ago, before I knew any better, I bought and installed Moss springs. I would like to know if, and exactly how, anyone has done this successfully. There was a Brian in CA who said he changed the order of the stacking of the leaves, but I can't contact him. At the Cap'n's suggestion, I emailed Tom Colby at Speedwell, who is supposed to know which leaves are to be removed, but he didn't reply. Thanks for any help. This is going to be a SOS '07 project. My present setup can be seen at: http://tinyurl.com/32754s Note how high the rear is jacked up. Bud Pazur From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Oct 22 16:25:12 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Message-ID: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/14/when-calling-shotgun-goes-bad/ Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From RampantNM at aol.com Mon Oct 22 16:40:11 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:40:11 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 58 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/22/2007 3:01:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Please, this is a family list!!! >From: "Robert Bruce Evans" > >Nice to see some of my old parts, again! > >Buster Hey, no big thing.... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 22 17:16:12 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:16:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> Message-ID: <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> Try this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=xwatR2xD79E Spec Miata lapping Laguna Seca with female driver and female passenger. The passenger was patched into the PA system. It was an amazing 10 minutes. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: ; Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/14/when-calling-shotgun-goes-bad/ > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of > image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > millerls at ado13.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hal at katemuir.com Mon Oct 22 17:27:46 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:27:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Sprite Bugeye for Sale on Ebay In-Reply-To: <380-2200710122184113187@earthlink.net> Message-ID: And the red "AH" logo on the hub caps. Mike MacLean wrote: "Not to mention the incorrect windshield for a 58." Or the circumcised overflow pipes on the SU's. (Of course, cutting the excess off was one of the first things people did when buying the new car.) From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Oct 22 19:27:31 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <668874.54190.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Jim Johnson wrote: > in size) what are the chances that it could go down > the push-rod hole > and make it all the way into the oil pan? It could be anywhere. Last year I had a cotter pin break off the end of a rocker shaft. It happened at the track and I pulled the head, cleaned everything as best we could, tried all the magnet tricks and came up with nothing. After a weekend of mysteriously changing valve clearances (I assumed I was wiping a cam lobe), I disassembled everything and found 1/2 the pin against the oil screen and the other half sitting in a lifter cup under a pushrod that I had removed at the track and "magneted". So...my recommendation is to disassemble and reassemble. It really doesn't take more than a few hours and winter's coming. Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 19:48:12 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:48:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$1mt9g3@email.mtu.edu> References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> <69cq7p$1mt9g3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710221848h4db9db42qc09d9be41d72fb@mail.gmail.com> I would shy away from the shop vac because if it works, you won't know it. You could empty the shop vac first and then see what you get in the tank, I guess. But, I would make sure I found it if I went looking. Cheers, Derf From smarc at smarc.net Mon Oct 22 19:49:14 2007 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:49:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710221848h4db9db42qc09d9be41d72fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0710221356q7db12ec6n15c37b2e6cebb134@mail.gmail.com> <69cq7p$1mt9g3@email.mtu.edu> <5f00d9910710221848h4db9db42qc09d9be41d72fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471D531A.6060809@smarc.net> Maybe you could 'borrow' a stocking from your wife, gf, SO, etc... and use that as a filter sock in the shop vac hose to see what you catch... Marc derf wrote: > I would shy away from the shop vac because if it works, you won't know > it. You could empty the shop vac first and then see what you get in > the tank, I guess. But, I would make sure I found it if I went > looking. > Cheers, > Derf > _______________________________________________ > smarc at smarc.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 22 20:00:18 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:00:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap Message-ID: <380-2200710223201878@earthlink.net> Marc wrote: "Maybe you could 'borrow' a stocking from your wife, gf, SO, etc... " Naw, I ain't gonna touch THAT one!!!! Buste From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Oct 22 09:35:48 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:35:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary Message-ID: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> Hey guess what!!! Last week, either the 16th or the 17th was the 10th anniversary of Spridgets at autox.team.net. The archives start on the 17th, but it looks like the early posts from the 16th did not all make it. And we all missed it. So tonight at 10PM EDT (that is 7 PM for you left coasters ;-) Please hold up a frosty beverage (or room temp for our English Brethern) and have a toast to 10 years of the bestest email group for Spridgets. 10 years of Fun, Friends, Laughs, occasionally tears. Here'e to ya!! Larry Member since the first day!! -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Oct 22 20:58:19 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:58:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <471D634B.4070203@comcast.net> Larry Macy, Ph.D. wrote: > 10 years of Fun, Friends, Laughs, occasionally tears. Here'e to ya!! > > Larry > Member since the first day!! Here-here Frank Clarici Founding member From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 21:11:45 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:11:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <471D634B.4070203@comcast.net> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> <471D634B.4070203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710222011k75ad0143j9781eecdee186c30@mail.gmail.com> There-there. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 21:24:55 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Doing so, Larry. I wasn't far behind ya!! And I AM going to have another in SALUTE to Mark Bradakis, Founder/Owner/Maintainer. And as an aside, IMHO, everybody on the List should send him a THANKS CHECK made out in the amount of $10.00 !! I AM. Ed From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 21:31:05 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:31:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> <00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710222031x4b3923cagf8295a4ac6b3bf00@mail.gmail.com> Last time I sent a donation the list went down for a week or so. I learned my lesson then. Whatever Mark tried to do with my $20 caused trouble. From millerls at ado13.com Mon Oct 22 23:47:11 2007 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:47:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> <00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP> What is the PayPal address for Fat Chance Garage ? > > And as an aside, IMHO, everybody on the List should send him a THANKS > CHECK > made out in the amount of $10.00 !! > > I AM. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Oct 22 11:33:11 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:33:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the Anniversary Message-ID: <20071022123311.s8j2qcijok0swoog@webmail.opentransfer.com> Hey guess what!!! Last week, either the 16th or the 17th was the 10th anniversary of Spridgets at autox.team.net. The archives start on the 17th, but it looks like the early posts from the 16th did not all make it. And we all missed it. So tonight at 10PM EDT (that is 7 PM for you left coasters ;-) Please hold up a frosty beverage (or room temp for our English Brethern) and have a toast to 10 years of the bestest email group for Spridgets. 10 years of Fun, Friends, Laughs, occasionally tears. Here'e to ya!! Larry Member since the first day!! -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 23 03:09:21 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:09:21 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just spoil the real pleasures. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > Try this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=xwatR2xD79E > > Spec Miata lapping Laguna Seca with female driver and female passenger. > The > passenger was patched into the PA system. It was an amazing 10 minutes. > > Larry Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" > To: ; > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:25 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > > >> http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/14/when-calling-shotgun-goes-bad/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Wm. Severin Thompson >> >> ~iii> >> >> >> wsthompson at thicko.com >> >> www.thicko.com >> >> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of >> image001.png] >> _______________________________________________ >> millerls at ado13.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lists at brits-n-pieces.com Tue Oct 23 03:17:18 2007 From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:17:18 +0200 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny In-Reply-To: <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> Message-ID: <00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com> Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or voice-wise? Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real pleasures. ;-) Eric I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just spoil the real pleasures. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > Try this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=xwatR2xD79E > > Spec Miata lapping Laguna Seca with female driver and female passenger. > The > passenger was patched into the PA system. It was an amazing 10 minutes. > > Larry Miller From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 23 03:34:13 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:34:13 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> <00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com> Message-ID: <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> Eric, Just those that have the 'mind-set' that make them produce noises like that in non-emergency situations. Body-wise, most shapes produce pleasure - I'm a male.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)" To: "'Guy R Day'" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or > voice-wise? > Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real pleasures. > ;-) > > Eric > > > I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just > spoil > the real pleasures. > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" > To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" ; > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:16 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > > >> Try this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=xwatR2xD79E >> >> Spec Miata lapping Laguna Seca with female driver and female passenger. >> The >> passenger was patched into the PA system. It was an amazing 10 minutes. >> >> Larry Miller From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 23 04:52:43 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:52:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed Message-ID: He didn't reply to your email, eh? Strange. Hmmm,....maybe he's having computer/ server problems? But....his phone number is on his website so why not given 'em a buzz. His advice will definitely be worth the phone call. And tell him his (would be) customers would appreciate him answering their emails as I'll be writing him soon for a quote on a Walker bonnet and shipping of same from CA to Stamford, CT.! :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 23 05:02:37 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:02:37 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Message-ID: D'yuh think Screaming Barbara would probably make a poor candidate for flying lessons or what, Larry? Unreal!!! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 23 05:23:22 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny In-Reply-To: <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> <00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com> <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> Message-ID: <000901c81567$211ca7c0$6355f740$@com> You take people to the races... they watch trackside. It doesn't look that fast. Strap them into a passenger seat for track touring at lunch, with no passing, and a 70mph speed limit, and most of them sprain their sphincters. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy R Day Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:34 AM To: lists at brits-n-pieces.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Eric, Just those that have the 'mind-set' that make them produce noises like that in non-emergency situations. Body-wise, most shapes produce pleasure - I'm a male.... Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)" To: "'Guy R Day'" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or > voice-wise? > Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real pleasures. > ;-) > > Eric > > > I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just > spoil > the real pleasures. > > Guy R Day From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Tue Oct 23 05:39:43 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 7:39:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Message-ID: <564157.1193139583216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> Strap them into a passenger seat for track touring at lunch, with no passing, and a 70mph speed limit, and most of them sprain their sphincters. I remember the first time my wife was riding with me at 143 MPH in my 68 Corvette. She was curling up in her seat and retracting her legs. I told her that it would go faster and she just said that we were going fast enough! She did not want to top it out at 160 so we slowed down a bit... She never raised her voice at all!!! Best I ever saw was 174 MPH in a 275GTB longnose V-12 Ferrari. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 05:39:46 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:39:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> <5f00d9910710222031x4b3923cagf8295a4ac6b3bf00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006601c81569$69bb2180$0301a8c0@midget> > Last time I sent a donation the list went down for a week or so. I > learned my lesson then. Whatever Mark tried to do with my $20 caused > trouble. And I trust that the lesson you learned was to never send less than $50 so that Mark can buy the good stuff instead of those awful Maxtor drives, RIGHT? From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 23 05:40:56 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:40:56 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> <00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP> <003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork> <00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com> <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> <000901c81567$211ca7c0$6355f740$@com> Message-ID: <000e01c81569$934e22e0$bce28456@tairswork> They can strain their sphincter (tighter) as much as they want, it's my eardrums that don't want the screeching from little tartlets anywhere near me. :-) Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Guy R Day'" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > You take people to the races... they watch trackside. It doesn't look that > fast. Strap them into a passenger seat for track touring at lunch, with no > passing, and a 70mph speed limit, and most of them sprain their > sphincters. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf > Of > Guy R Day > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:34 AM > To: lists at brits-n-pieces.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > > Eric, > Just those that have the 'mind-set' that make them produce noises like > that > in non-emergency situations. Body-wise, most shapes produce pleasure - > I'm > a male.... > > Guy R Day > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brits'n'Pieces (Eric Frenken)" > To: "'Guy R Day'" ; > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > > >> Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or >> voice-wise? >> Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real >> pleasures. >> ;-) >> >> Eric >> >> >> I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just >> spoil >> the real pleasures. >> >> Guy R Day From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 23 05:43:23 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:43:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Message-ID: "It's the screaming" Agreed.....Kent's wife does a better job! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 23 05:45:41 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:45:41 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Message-ID: ....."I'm sorry honey, but I've got a headache".......for about a month, no doubt! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Oct 23 05:49:50 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:49:50 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap Message-ID: ".....and Bob's your uncle." ....am not. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 23 05:53:52 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:53:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny In-Reply-To: <564157.1193139583216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> References: <564157.1193139583216.JavaMail.root@wmvirt1> Message-ID: <000a01c8156b$63f147a0$2bd3d6e0$@com> A few years back, I was a driving instructor at the VSCDA's Spring Brake race at Gingerman. Standard routine is you take your students out to the track after the first classroom session for "station wagon runs". You pile them into your street vehicle, and drive the track, showing them the line, braking points, corner worker locations, entry and exit points on the track. I had my 1 ton turbo diesel dually extended cab pick up. 3 students in the back seat, and my wife in the front seat. The track was damp, as it was misting, sometimes light rain. She could never look out the windshield. Later at lunch, I took just her out on the track... raining a little harder. I had the truck sideways out of every corner, and ran some laps that would have placed me about mid pack in group 2. ;) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:40 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny Strap them into a passenger seat for track touring at lunch, with no passing, and a 70mph speed limit, and most of them sprain their sphincters. I remember the first time my wife was riding with me at 143 MPH in my 68 Corvette. She was curling up in her seat and retracting her legs. I told her that it would go faster and she just said that we were going fast enough! She did not want to top it out at 160 so we slowed down a bit... She never raised her voice at all!!! Best I ever saw was 174 MPH in a 275GTB longnose V-12 Ferrari. Kent 1960 Bugeye From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Oct 23 06:43:47 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:43:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed In-Reply-To: <200710222126.l9MLQFsk016219@green.excel.net> References: <200710222126.l9MLQFsk016219@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <000301c81572$5b0d6a40$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> You show more wheel well than my 4x4 truck! Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 2:26 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Quarter Elliptics Help Needed I am still looking for definitive help to modify my rear leaf springs to improve the harsh ride, lower the rear, and improve handling. Long ago, before I knew any better, I bought and installed Moss springs. I would like to know if, and exactly how, anyone has done this successfully. There was a Brian in CA who said he changed the order of the stacking of the leaves, but I can't contact him. At the Cap'n's suggestion, I emailed Tom Colby at Speedwell, who is supposed to know which leaves are to be removed, but he didn't reply. Thanks for any help. This is going to be a SOS '07 project. My present setup can be seen at: http://tinyurl.com/32754s Note how high the rear is jacked up. Bud Pazur From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 07:40:59 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com> <00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> <024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> Didn't there used to be a portal for donations somewhere at http://autox.team.net ? I looked and couldn't find one. There is a snail-mail address for Mark at that site.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/23/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > What is the PayPal address for Fat Chance Garage ? > > > > And as an aside, IMHO, everybody on the List should send him a THANKS > > CHECK > > made out in the amount of $10.00 !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 07:49:03 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:49:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP> <43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <078601c8157b$7a2c1850$6401a8c0@Larry> I believe his PayPal address is the same as his email address: mjb at autox.team.net LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary Didn't there used to be a portal for donations somewhere at http://autox.team.net ? I looked and couldn't find one. There is a snail-mail address for Mark at that site.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/23/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > What is the PayPal address for Fat Chance Garage ? > > > > And as an aside, IMHO, everybody on the List should send him a THANKS > > CHECK > > made out in the amount of $10.00 !! _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: 10/22/2007 7:57 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 08:08:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:08:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP><43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> <078601c8157b$7a2c1850$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <000f01c8157e$2e1e2810$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >I believe his PayPal address is the same as his email address: > mjb at autox.team.net My Paypal account assures me that I have, in the past, used donations at autox.team.net for this purpose. Perhaps we should reference these as "10th Birthday Presents from the Spridget List" ... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 08:15:22 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:15:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP><43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com><078601c8157b$7a2c1850$6401a8c0@Larry> <000f01c8157e$2e1e2810$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <001301c8157f$26503640$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> BTW, Larry M, although you sent your message yesterday morning, I did not receive it until after the time you had suggested for the toast. Somehow, I find that appropriate ;-) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 08:29:26 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:29:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP><43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com><078601c8157b$7a2c1850$6401a8c0@Larry> <000f01c8157e$2e1e2810$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <07a401c81581$1e3121c0$6401a8c0@Larry> You are right, David. I guess all I needed to do was look. Donation is on it's way. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary >I believe his PayPal address is the same as his email address: > mjb at autox.team.net My Paypal account assures me that I have, in the past, used donations at autox.team.net for this purpose. Perhaps we should reference these as "10th Birthday Presents from the Spridget List" ... _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: 10/22/2007 7:57 PM From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 09:47:56 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:47:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 59 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/22/2007 8:01:18 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: I am still looking for definitive help to modify my rear leaf springs to improve the harsh ride, lower the rear, and improve handling. Long ago, before I knew any better, I bought and installed Moss springs. Have you tried loosening the rear shackles, putting some weight in the rear (sand bags?) until you like the height and then re-tightening them? If it was on jack stands when you installed the spings, it may be artificially high. Or, you could buy some big Micky Thomposon slicks...... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 10:14:15 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:14:15 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 5:24:30 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or voice-wise? Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real pleasures. ;-) Eric I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just spoil the real pleasures. Guy R Day Actually I fond memories of a couple of screamers....... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Oct 23 10:14:35 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:14:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP> <43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8228a15e46a14564a13240a.20071023091435.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Try this guys: http://www.team.net/donate.html Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Jim Johnson > Didn't there used to be a portal for donations somewhere at > http://autox.team.net ? > > I looked and couldn't find one. There is a snail-mail address for > Mark at that site.... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! > For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org > > > On 10/23/07, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: >> What is the PayPal address for Fat Chance Garage ? >> > >> > And as an aside, IMHO, everybody on the List should send him a THANKS >> > CHECK >> > made out in the amount of $10.00 !! > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 10:18:24 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert, you're a big guy. If you were to be on top, I'm sure they ALL were screamers!!! LOL Brad On 10/23/07, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/2007 5:24:30 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Guy, what do you mean by saying 'women like those'? Body-wise or voice-wise? > Hm, whatever choice you take, you're right. They spoil the real pleasures. > ;-) > > Eric > > > I try really hard to keep women like those out of my life. They just spoil > the real pleasures. > > Guy R Day > > > > > > Actually I fond memories of a couple of screamers....... > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 23 10:38:58 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Hemmings Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071023113649.0370c788@mailbag.com> Sports and Exotic Car Cover features a Bugeye!! "Healey Hot Rod" If you haven't seen/bought this magazine yet, this should push you. You'll wish you had from the start. Peter C. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 10:38:36 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:38:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 References: Message-ID: <07e101c81593$29ce2250$6401a8c0@Larry> Or, maybe the bag was on the wrong person's head? Just kiddin' Robert. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 Robert, you're a big guy. If you were to be on top, I'm sure they ALL were screamers!!! LOL Brad > > Actually I fond memories of a couple of screamers....... > > Regards, > > Robert B. Houston > > 74.5 MGBGT > 73 MG Midget > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union > carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, > perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced > hands, > the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and > adjusted as > described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: 10/22/2007 7:57 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 11:00:32 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:00:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Hemmings References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071023113649.0370c788@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <001201c81596$394092b0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Sports and Exotic Car Cover features a Bugeye!! "Healey Hot Rod" > > If you haven't seen/bought this magazine yet, this should push > you. You'll wish you had from the start. I hope this means that my issue will be in my mailbox when I get home! Allow me to add my virtual voice to Peter's in endorsing this fine magazine. Less than $20 gets you an issue a month for a year. Nor do they feature a parade of trailer queens. They do features on rustbuckets and daily drivers. This is the best value in old car magazines currently available. David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 11:09:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:09:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> Are all of you area guys OK? Anybody in the path? Those fires do not look good. Stay safe. LAD From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Oct 23 11:22:52 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:22:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <12fe0a331c8a2f7b0a2cb00a.20071023102252.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I'm kinda surrounded her in San Bernardino, but the nearest fire is at least 15 miles from here in norther part of San Bernardino. I am located in the very bottom tip of the city. Also a very big wild fire in the mountains surrounding San Bernardino. Overcast from smoke and ash all over everything. Pretty bad situation all over Southern California. Road closures everywhere. I went to work yesterday and got sent home because we could not get our crew to Barstow due to the 15N freeway closure. It's open today and I'm about to leave for work again in about an hour and try again. Not worried about my home, but others in other parts of SoCal have lost everything. Members in the San Diego area are probably hit the hardest with mandatory evacuations and many out of control fires. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Larry Daniels > Are all of you area guys OK? > > Anybody in the path? > > Those fires do not look good. Stay safe. > > > LAD > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Oct 23 11:29:52 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:29:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: > Are all of you area guys OK? It stinks here, everything's covered with ash, the sky is reddish gray, and it's gone from the low sixties to over a hundred in just two days. Other than that, everything's about the same. BZ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 11:47:44 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:47:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Missed the anniversary In-Reply-To: <000f01c8157e$2e1e2810$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <20071022103548.xmszicxr0ggww4ko@webmail.opentransfer.com><00e001c81524$48c22c70$6601a8c0@actualshop><024001c81538$289b08e0$d280bc43@HP><43840a7e0710230640h60fad848p773a09aad3071f60@mail.gmail.com> <078601c8157b$7a2c1850$6401a8c0@Larry> <000f01c8157e$2e1e2810$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4F72ABEB-F314-4582-AC3D-4087AFFD806A@comcast.net> done.. Lester On Oct 23, 2007, at 9:08 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> I believe his PayPal address is the same as his email address: >> mjb at autox.team.net > > My Paypal account assures me that I have, in the past, used > donations at autox.team.net for this purpose. Perhaps we should > reference these > as "10th Birthday Presents from the Spridget List" ... From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 11:51:04 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:51:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-220071022317514125@earthlink.net> Larry Daniels wrote: "Are all of you area guys OK?....Anybody in the path?....Those fires do not look good. Stay safe." These are, without a doubt, the worst Southern California fires I have seen in my 70 years. At the present time, there are about 20 of them in a 175 long line from Piru in the north to San Diego in the South. The devastation is beyond belief, and growing so quickly that even the media cannot keep count with the homes lost (c. 1,200) and acreage lost (c. 500,000). The temperatures are still hovering near 100, and the winds reaching 70 mph. Combined with the long drought, low humidity and dew point, Southern California has been a tinderbox. Many of the fires would have ignited through natural combustion, but have been made worse by clear cases of arson. Here in Anaheim, we are "safe"; a relative term since in similar weather 23 years ago, 10 square blocks across the street from our house were burned to the ground. Outside, our temperature is 98, and the winds gusting no more that 25-30 mph. Our swimming pool is a quagmire of dirt and debris carried in on the winds, and we have lost several "breakable" items outside. Big deal. (For the Sprite content, a massive tree branch broke and fell inches from the Sprite! Uh, no driving of the Sprite in this weather!) Our family has been affected. Our daughter's mother-in-law was one of 300,000 in San Diego to be evacuated, and her home has probably been consumed by flames. Our son, a new lieutenant with Animal Control, had just convinced the bureaucrats above that the department needed stronger emergency planning, equipment, and communications. Whenever there is a disaster, from fires to floods to slides, they have to go into the danger areas to rescue pets, livestock, and wildlife. He had just been given the green light to begin when these fire started. And while he is involved in the rescues, they fear that the winds will change direction and sweep down on HIS house! (His mentor, one of the other lieutenants, will in all likelihood, loose his house in the idyllic and bohemian Modjeska Canyon. The only thing that angers me more than the arsonists is the attention given to the mega-buck residents of Malibu. All the datelines are from "Malibu", all of the media panders to their beautiful homes at risk or lost. But for years, they have haughtily refused to follow fire authority recommendations to clear away the brush, trees, and vegetative landscaping around the million dollar homes. No, they insist on retaining their ambience and the lush growth that affords them the privacy they demand. As a consequence, they are hit year after year with fires, only to rebuild with big insurance or Federal Government payouts. But they rebuild with the same arrogant disregard of nature, and let the rest of us pay for their folly. So when you hear of the homes of your movie star idols being threatened or burned, think instead of the families who are being burned out, without the insurance or resources to piece together their lives. Buster Evans From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 12:37:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:37:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires References: Message-ID: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that has not yet chimed in. From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Tue Oct 23 13:07:46 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Hemmings Message-ID: <21326738.1193166466137.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I agree it is a great magazine and they almost give it away! It is hard to beat. Tons better than Classic Motorsports. Mike C -----Original Message----- >From: Peter C >Sent: Oct 23, 2007 12:38 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Hemmings > >Sports and Exotic Car Cover features a Bugeye!! "Healey Hot Rod" > >If you haven't seen/bought this magazine yet, this should push >you. You'll wish you had from the start. > >Peter C. ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 13:19:42 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:19:42 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 60 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 10:40:18 AM Mountain Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Or, maybe the bag was on the wrong person's head? Just kiddin' Robert. ;-)) LAD Doesn't much matter Larry. Once they hit you with the pepper spray, you can't see much anyway... Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From pvanwig at charter.net Tue Oct 23 13:25:21 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:25:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <004001c815aa$74a6ef20$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> So far I'm good. I back to National Forest on the east end of Moonridge in Big Bear City. Paul Van Wig pvanwig at charter.net -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:10 AM To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; SpridgetsList Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires Are all of you area guys OK? Anybody in the path? Those fires do not look good. Stay safe. LAD From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Oct 23 13:47:25 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:47:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <005b01c815ad$8b2f0860$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Jacques le Clainche for one. Last big fire like this a few years back came within about 1 1/2 blocks of his place. That might be sort of a virtue as there would be less to burn around him. But if he had to evacuate, not likely he would be checking the list. Bestr, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires > I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that > has not yet chimed in. From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 23 14:04:01 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:04:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <003001c815af$e2f7a640$a8e6f2c0$@com> Oh joy... I fly into LAX tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+wsthompson=thicko.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:37 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that has not yet chimed in. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 23 14:10:38 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:10:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <003001c815af$e2f7a640$a8e6f2c0$@com> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <003001c815af$e2f7a640$a8e6f2c0$@com> Message-ID: Hopefully, it won't be EXLAX when you get there. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Wm. Severin Thompson Oh joy... I fly into LAX tomorrow. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that has not yet chimed in. From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 14:13:59 2007 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 11:37 AM 10/23/2007, David Lieb wrote: >I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that has not >yet chimed in. I'm OK in the Mira Mesa area of San Diego... Thought when they evac'd Scripps Ranch yesterday that my neighborhood would be next, but not so far... Heard from Bob Kitterer yesterday that he's also personally OK, but his where his cars are stored may be in harm's way. At 12:47 PM 10/23/2007, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >Jacques le Clainche for one. Last big fire like this a few years back >came within about 1 1/2 blocks of his place. That might be sort of a >virtue as there would be less to burn around him. >But if he had to evacuate, not likely he would be checking the list. Haven't heard much from Jacques since he sold his BE... If I remember correctly, his place is somewhere north of La Mesa and so is not being directly threatened this time, yet. Rick -- Rick Snover, San Diego, CA, USA Vice President (Membership), Newsletter Editor (Interim) & Web Master Austin-Healey Club of San Diego 1964 Sprite Mk III driver 1959 Speedwell Sprite vintage racer (VARA ) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 23 14:14:54 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:14:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny In-Reply-To: <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com><00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP><003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork><00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com> <001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> Message-ID: Any port in storm, eh? :) -----Original Message----- Eric, Just those that have the 'mind-set' that make them produce noises like that in non-emergency situations. Body-wise, most shapes produce pleasure - I'm a male.... Guy R Day From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 23 14:21:39 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:21:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: A toddler pointed at me a couple of weeks ago and said "dad". I told her to be careful where she pointed when she said that as it instilled fear into most men. Her mother laughed. ( I had never met her before. ) -----Original Message----- ".....and Bob's your uncle." ....am not. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 14:26:35 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:26:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> Message-ID: hmm.. 300,000 .. are they complaining about how the government isn't helping them? About how they don't have a FEMA trailer yet? Is California asking the government for BILLIONS of dollars for repair? Are they shooting at the rescuers? Did they act like normal people and LEAVE when they were warned that something bad was coming?? Sorry.. bit of a rant.. but now they're all Houston's problem.. Lester .. I hope that all is well folks. On Oct 23, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Robert D. Gardner wrote: > Thank you all for your concern. I think we are ok here. Just dodged > the > bullet about 3 AM when flames passed by on Mt. Miguel about 3 or 4 > miles to > the south. If the winds hold, it should stay to the south of me. > > But it is sad that it is making it's way through many, many houses. > > Over 300,000 evacuated! Over 1000 homes lost so far and it looks > like in > the north, it will burn through clear to the ocean! > > That will be a run of over 50 miles! > > Daytime photos about 4 pm from Mt.; Helix near my house, and nite > time about > 3 AM. > > More later. > > Cheers, > > Bob > > Robert D. Gardner > > Gardner Productions > > Award Winning Film and Video in San Diego since 1978 > > 11445 Lorena Ln. > > El Cajon, CA 92020 > > 619-460-1000 > > www.gardnerproductions.com > > _____ > > From: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com > [mailto:midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Larry Daniels > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:10 AM > To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; Spridgets > List > Subject: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > > Are all of you area guys OK? > > Anybody in the path? > > Those fires do not look good. Stay safe. > > LAD > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (0)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 12 > New Members > 13 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Health Zone > Look your best! > > Groups to help you > > look & feel great. > > Yahoo! News > Sexual Health > > Get important > > sex health news > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From type79 at ix.netcom.com Tue Oct 23 14:36:27 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <15251936.1193171787417.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Probably those with cars and those able to be transported without assistance have left. It's nice to know that some still have compassion for those unable to help themselves. jay fishbein wallingford, ct home.ix.netcom.com/~type79/ -----Original Message----- >From: oldsaabguy >Sent: Oct 23, 2007 4:26 PM >To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Cc: Spridgets List >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > >hmm.. 300,000 .. are they complaining about how the government isn't >helping them? About how they don't have a FEMA trailer yet? Is >California asking the government for BILLIONS of dollars for repair? >Are they shooting at the rescuers? Did they act like normal people >and LEAVE when they were warned that something bad was coming?? > >Sorry.. bit of a rant.. but now they're all Houston's problem.. > >Lester > >.. I hope that all is well folks. From res0nii1 at verizon.net Tue Oct 23 14:35:01 2007 From: res0nii1 at verizon.net (Dave Bohler) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:35:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <005b01c815ad$8b2f0860$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <004d01c815b4$31ffbf80$6500a8c0@DESKTOP> Bob Kitterer is there. Since he sold his house last year (or so) he has not bought another and is staying with a friend a few blocks from the ocean when not out seeing the USA in his big rv. Heard from him today. They were given voluntary evacuation notice yesterday but opted to stay and said "if it gets bad we figure we can walk a few blocks and sit in the ocean"............ now is that stubborn or what???? But that is Bob. If we had been in his situation we'd've had that big rv loaded and out of there days ago. Each makes their own choice and we just hope they stay safe and ALL down there remain safe and the fires are out soon. Best wishes to all, PeggyB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Asgeirsson" To: "David Lieb" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires > Jacques le Clainche for one. Last big fire like this a few years back > came > within about 1 1/2 blocks of his place. That might be sort of a virtue as > there would be less to burn around him. > > But if he had to evacuate, not likely he would be checking the list. > > Bestr, Paul A > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires > > >> I guess now we need to figure out who else lives in that area that >> has not yet chimed in. > _______________________________________________ > res0nii1 at verizon.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Tue Oct 23 14:39:35 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:39:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wishbones Message-ID: Finished up the suspension rebuild on the passenger side and have moved on to the drivers side... I have yet to pull the wishbone, but it appears that years of neglect and a loose fulcrum pin may have worn away the threads which holds the pin in place - hard to tell and won't know for certain until I have it on the bench. If the threads are shot is this repairable using an insert or am I going to have to get a replacement wishbone? thanks, -m From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 14:45:02 2007 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:45:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> Message-ID: <6.2.2.1.2.20071023134220.028509e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> At 01:26 PM 10/23/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >hmm.. 300,000... It's over 500,000 now. >...are they complaining about how the government isn't helping them? No. >About how they don't have a FEMA trailer yet? No. >Is California asking the government for BILLIONS of dollars for repair? Not yet, anyway. >Are they shooting at the rescuers? No. >Did they act like normal people and LEAVE when they were warned that >something bad was coming?? 99.9% yes. >Sorry.. bit of a rant.. Unless you've got something constructive, keep it to yourself. Rick From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 14:59:52 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:59:52 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 64 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 2:37:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Sorry.. bit of a rant.. but now they're all Houston's problem.. Hey, not my problem....oh, you mean the city of Houston....yep. Last I heard we still had one in El Paso. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 15:04:58 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:04:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710231404o71fec27lcd3e0b3c1ed0631@mail.gmail.com> It would be nice if they would come get a few hundred thousand FEMA trailers and take them to Kali. Then, we wouldn't have to see them everywhere. Kalifornia doesn't have to ask for Billions, they know that the money is already on the way. And, yes, if you look closely you will see how a giant government bureaucracy wastes your tax dollars. My rant: I bought a generator many years ago because I know that this area is sometimes hit by circumstances that warrant the use of a generator. I spent my hard earned after-tax dollars to be prepared. Along comes a big storm. What does MY government decide to do with MY tax dollars (and your's, too)? They decide to GIVE generators to people. I feel like I've been punished for being a responsible citizen. I PAY for insurance. Thankfully, I had no claim due to the storm. But, many who were irresponsible and had no insurance are just holding their hand out to receive MY tax dollars. The bottom line is the government is inefficient and should ONLY do things that cannot be done by some other entity. Hopefully FEMA has learned a few things and will not try to solve every problem by throwing money at it. But, get ready, Kali's circumstances will be an excuse for the government to waste enough money to feed a third world country for a century. FEMA is a joke, but the joke is on us. Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. My prayers go out for people who are affected by the fires. My prayers go out for our leaders, too. Natural disasters bring out the worst in people and the best in people. And by the way, the worst part of Katrina did NOT hit New Orleans directly. It was a near-miss. The worst part of the storm, the eastern quadrant, hit Mississippi. If it had been 50 or so miles west, or if another big storm comes along and does make a direct hit, New Orleans will suffer a fate much worse than the flooding it received after Katrina. The worst thing of all is that many people really believe that the Army Corps of Engineers planted explosives in the levees and blew them to flood the city and drive the poor people out. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 15:06:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:06:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] wishbones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710231406y7794c0acv1a85225242f5eeb7@mail.gmail.com> Send them to the guy in Ohio. He does good work at a reasonable price. Cheers, Derf From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 15:10:51 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny In-Reply-To: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com> Message-ID: Codrivers.. they're all the same.. "AHHHHH!!! STOP!!! You're trying to KILL US!!!" Lester Driver On Oct 22, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/14/when-calling-shotgun-goes-bad/ > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023134220.028509e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710231412l3cec3febn7713fa133524d83a@mail.gmail.com> Oh, yeah, I think the "bad" people who got all the press after the storm acted very much like some of their fellow Americans acted after the Rodney King verdict came in. After the storm there were more heroes than scumbags. But, like everywhere, the scumbags make the news and the heroes go back home and go to work the next day. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 15:16:57 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:16:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710231404o71fec27lcd3e0b3c1ed0631@mail.gmail.com> References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> <5f00d9910710231404o71fec27lcd3e0b3c1ed0631@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I have a friend that is a firefighter/emt. He went to New Orleans to help. He was handed flyers, and told to hand them out. He and some others got tired of the bureaucratic bullshit, so the next day, they snuck out to an area where they new FEMA wasn't, and used boat brought by volunteers, and went out to bring in the stranded on their own. Much more effective than a f'n flyer......... On 10/23/07, derf wrote: > Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and > did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 15:18:09 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <6.2.2.1.2.20071023134220.028509e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023134220.028509e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <579CDCC2-BA03-4027-87AE-209FF280C935@comcast.net> That was constructive. Californians are doing what Louisianans should have. We don't rank at the bottom of the education scale for nuttin'! Lester On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Rick Snover wrote: > At 01:26 PM 10/23/2007, oldsaabguy wrote: >> hmm.. 300,000... > > It's over 500,000 now. > >> ...are they complaining about how the government isn't helping them? > > No. > >> About how they don't have a FEMA trailer yet? > > No. > >> Is California asking the government for BILLIONS of dollars for >> repair? > > Not yet, anyway. > >> Are they shooting at the rescuers? > > No. > >> Did they act like normal people and LEAVE when they were warned >> that something bad was coming?? > > 99.9% yes. > >> Sorry.. bit of a rant.. > > Unless you've got something constructive, keep it to yourself. > > Rick From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 23 15:25:05 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:25:05 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com><00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP><003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork><00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com><001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> Message-ID: <008f01c815bb$2e231d60$ecbc2bd9@tairswork> Well it's been the same port I was registered with 37 years ago. LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "'Spridget List'" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny > Any port in storm, eh? :) > > -----Original Message----- > Eric, > Just those that have the 'mind-set' that make them produce noises like > that > in non-emergency situations. Body-wise, most shapes produce pleasure - > I'm > a male.... > > Guy R Day > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Oct 23 15:27:43 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:27:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com><00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP><003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork><00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com><001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork> <008f01c815bb$2e231d60$ecbc2bd9@tairswork> Message-ID: <006901c815bb$8d25c6f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Well it's been the same port I was registered with 37 years ago. LOL But the shape has changed a bit over the years? Constantly improving, of course! From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 15:31:13 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:31:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-2200710223213113453@earthlink.net> derf wrote: "the heroes go back home and go to work the next day." Well, SOMEONE has to work and pay the taxes! Otherwise, where would those po' folk' be? Buster From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 15:42:08 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:42:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of MG stuff stolen Message-ID: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry> This poor guy from Detroit got lots of vintage MG stuff stolen. http://tinyurl.com/yu468w From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 15:56:06 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:56:06 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 3:28:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: >Sorry.. bit of a rant.. Unless you've got something constructive, keep it to yourself. Rick How about this, my cousin just went through FEMA training and is expecting to be called out to CA to appraise the damage and record it for the feds. He says everyone the FEMA guys see that has to move out of their house (guess you gotta move if it's ashes) gets a 19" TV, purchased with our tax dollars. So, call your congressmen (or woman, Pelosi) and tell them you wont settle for anything less than a 52 inch plasma HD....it's California for Christsakes! Just trying to be constructive and pro-active. Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From RampantNM at aol.com Tue Oct 23 15:59:30 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:59:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/23/2007 3:28:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and > did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. Has anyone notified Sean Penn and loaned him a hose? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Oct 23 16:13:04 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:13:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <380-2200710223213113453@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200710232212.l9NMCuhr012886@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> We still laugh about our Katrina experience at work. Picture this: Two computer geeks wearing golf shirts trying to figure out how dual Diesel pumps work...We drove down there from Wisconsin to our satellite office with a truck full of supplies. We were asked by a few people "Y'all here on vacation?" Ummm, yeah... Good people down there though. I hope to go back soon. Chris 66 MKIII With brakes now! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Bruce Evans Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:31 PM To: derf; oldsaabguy Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [The SoCal Fires derf wrote: "the heroes go back home and go to work the next day." Well, SOMEONE has to work and pay the taxes! Otherwise, where would those po' folk' be? Buster From grday at btinternet.com Tue Oct 23 16:39:41 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:39:41 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] this is damn funny References: <001201c814fa$6bf46f20$43dd4d60$@com><00aa01c81501$8a2f5ed0$d280bc43@HP><003c01c81554$665d8420$abe28556@tairswork><00cd01c81555$846627f0$8d3277d0$@com><001401c81557$df86f180$abe28556@tairswork><008f01c815bb$2e231d60$ecbc2bd9@tairswork> <006901c815bb$8d25c6f0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <002901c815c5$9a88db20$ecbc2bd9@tairswork> Bring back the shapes of yesteryear. If only!! We're both a little broader in the beam. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] this is damn funny >> Well it's been the same port I was registered with 37 years ago. LOL > > But the shape has changed a bit over the years? Constantly improving, of > course! > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Oct 23 18:49:51 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:49:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Priceless Message-ID: <471E96AF.8020907@comcast.net> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f1_1191781307&p=1 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 19:09:58 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:09:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Priceless Message-ID: <380-22007103241958875@earthlink.net> > http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f1_1191781307&p=1 Didn't I just see that guy in an auto-cross last week or so? Must be improving. Only lost two weeks this week! Buste From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Oct 23 21:29:10 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 20:29:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Rick, Jacques place is in Lakeside. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Snover" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires > Haven't heard much from Jacques since he sold his BE... If I remember > correctly, his place is somewhere north of La Mesa and so is not being > directly threatened this time, yet. > > Rick From ricksnover at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 22:03:02 2007 From: ricksnover at earthlink.net (Rick Snover) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:03:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20071023205141.03225da0@pop.earthlink.net> At 08:29 PM 10/23/2007, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >Jacques place is in Lakeside. Aha... I was close, but he's north of El Cajon, not La Mesa. Looks like that'd put him in or maybe just south of the Wildcat Canyon or Hwy 67 evacuation areas, but at least 10 miles away from any active fires as of 6pm today: http://sdcountyemergency.com/newsreleases/102320077_1800hrsA_Evac_FirePerem.pdf Rick From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Oct 23 22:53:05 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <729712.22048.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paul, I have a friend in Lakeside and he was not hit by the fire. I hope that is the case with Jacques too. I just got a email from Dana who is in the AHCSD. He lives in Scrips Ranch and made it though OK too. Vigil Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Hi Rick, Jacques place is in Lakeside. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Snover" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires > Haven't heard much from Jacques since he sold his BE... If I remember > correctly, his place is somewhere north of La Mesa and so is not being > directly threatened this time, yet. > > Rick _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 23:21:50 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:21:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: References: <07fc01c81597$8862f210$6401a8c0@Larry> <023601c815a5$98dbade0$48a50644@internetpc> <5f00d9910710231404o71fec27lcd3e0b3c1ed0631@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710232221u9ef5a8dlbdb608e9ec2a37ee@mail.gmail.com> Okay... Ya'll have me cranked now. I was stationed at Maxwell AFB when Camille hit in 1969. We loaded up 6x's and headed for Pass Christian. It was a really bad storm. The Red Cross service at the disaster point was disgusting. While all the church groups and the Air Force were giving people clothes, food and tents, the F'n Red Cross was SELLING them sandwiches. I was barely able to keep the safety on on my M-14. As a meteorologist I watched Katrina closely. They had *2 F'N DAYS* warning!!! I've got good friends at the National Hurricane Center who did an outstanding job, no thanks to the Washington bureaucracy!!! Ray Nagen and Governor what's-her-a$$ refused to issue evacuation orders until too late. They were used to dealing with politicians who are full of $hit and NOT with scientists who knew exactly what they were doing. And neither of them imagined the proportions of the impending disaster! Moreover, even if they had issued such orders, the residents were too f'n stupid to evacuate! Another good friend of mine had provided New Orleans with computer model simulations of what would happen if a Cat-5 storm hit exactly where Katrina did about 10 years before hand. His model was dead on the mark but what difference does it make. Even if they had believed him people wouldn't react to the threat. There's precious little anyone can do for morons! (See Darwinian natural selection). Cheeze n' Rice folks! It was an unavoidable natural disaster of unparalleled proportions (well, maybe the 1911 Galveston hurricane...). All the freaking governments and all the freaking FEMA's and all the freaking volunteers and all the freaking money in the world wouldn't have made a difference!! But like typical Americans, we expend colossal energy casting about for *someone to blame*!! Instead of getting on with life. We need to learn that there are some forces in nature which we are going to lose to no matter what we do with technology and government preparedness. How freaking arrogant we are to think that man can mitigate a Cat-5 storm! You pick up the pieces and you go on with life as best you can. It isn't anyone's fault that a terribly destructive Cat-5 Hurricane made landfall in a very vulnerable area!! -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/23/07, Brad Fornal wrote: > I have a friend that is a firefighter/emt. He went to New Orleans to > help. He was handed flyers, and told to hand them out. He and some > others got tired of the bureaucratic bullshit, so the next day, they > snuck out to an area where they new FEMA wasn't, and used boat brought > by volunteers, and went out to bring in the stranded on their own. > Much more effective than a f'n flyer......... > > On 10/23/07, derf wrote: > > > Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and > > did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Oct 23 23:24:04 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:24:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0710232224y3934a65pb2ff15340fb7292f@mail.gmail.com> Our Canadian friends say he IS a hoser.... Eh? Cheers!! Jim On 10/23/07, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/2007 3:28:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and > > did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. > > > > > Has anyone notified Sean Penn and loaned him a hose? From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 04:21:16 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:21:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question Message-ID: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> Listers, What does an automatic transmission valve body do? Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 04:26:29 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 06:26:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wiring up a horn MKII Message-ID: <205cef430710240326j3261063kf33c20b2d820bc84@mail.gmail.com> Listers, My horn assembly fell apart on my stock steering wheel but I am installing a different wheel Astrali model I owned for 30 years (and I want to wire up a horn button off to the side. How do I wire up that horn? Thanks Linda 62 California Sprite www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 07:26:06 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:26:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710232221u9ef5a8dlbdb608e9ec2a37ee@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What a vindictive mother nature can be! It surprizes me, at times, that people live in danger zones, tempting nature. Sooner or later, she's going to bite you. People live where tornados frequent, hurricanes in the Carribean, California will someday drop into the ocean, people live near volcanoes, over or near earthquake 'faults' and some people even live where snow and ice and cold kills people. :) For others, it's the heat. I'm spouting this last bit from ( non-existent ) memory, so don't quote me, but it used to be that people didn't stray far from where they were born. I think it was within 100 miles? For myself, I live 65 miles from my birthplace. >From: "Jim Johnson" >We need to learn that there are some forces in nature which we are >going to lose to no matter what we do with technology and government >preparedness. How freaking arrogant we are to think that man can >mitigate a Cat-5 storm! You pick up the pieces and you go on with life >as best you can. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 08:29:29 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:29:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wiring up a horn MKII In-Reply-To: <205cef430710240326j3261063kf33c20b2d820bc84@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240326j3261063kf33c20b2d820bc84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710240729t68fb40aer30d10b81d5d9d07b@mail.gmail.com> The button should ground the horn. So, just send one wire to the existing horn wire behind the dash and the other to ground. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 08:33:51 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:33:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question In-Reply-To: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> Everything. It directs pressurized trans fluid through passages to do different things. You can put a "shift kit" in an automatic trans to change the way it operates by changing valve body action. Cheers, Derf On 10/24/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Listers, > What does an automatic transmission valve body do? > Thanks Linda From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 24 08:50:06 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:50:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008e01c8164d$2b05c370$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Everything. It directs pressurized trans fluid through passages to do > different things. You can put a "shift kit" in an automatic trans to > change the way it operates by changing valve body action. Yup. Effectively, it is the "brain" of the transmission. From pvanwig at charter.net Wed Oct 24 08:51:20 2007 From: pvanwig at charter.net (Paul Van Wig) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:51:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008201c8164d$574e9600$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Please clarify "I had never met her before" The mom or the little girl? Inquiring minds want to know? Paul Van Wig -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pvanwig=charter.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:22 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap A toddler pointed at me a couple of weeks ago and said "dad". I told her to be careful where she pointed when she said that as it instilled fear into most men. Her mother laughed. ( I had never met her before. ) -----Original Message----- ".....and Bob's your uncle." ....am not. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) _______________________________________________ pvanwig at charter.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Oct 24 09:02:33 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Code Needed - OE White Message-ID: <69cq7p$1nbh60@email.mtu.edu> I am ready to have my Sprite painted but I need a paint code for Diamont paint for OLD ENGLISH WHITE. My painter couldn't find OEW in his computer system and said he would have to make a call. I think Diamont paint is a RM product or something like that. I have sent a note to Diamont asking for info, but if I could get an independent verfication that would be great. Any Diamont painters out there? Your help would be appreciated. Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 09:27:54 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: <008201c8164d$574e9600$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop> Message-ID: I guess I should have said that I had never met "them" before. :) I was going to start explaining what I meant by it, but I'm sure that you know. RD >From: "Paul Van Wig" > >Please clarify "I had never met her before" The mom or the little girl? >Inquiring minds want to >know? > > >Paul Van Wig > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Duquette > >A toddler pointed at me a couple of weeks ago and said "dad". I told her >to >be careful where she pointed when she said that as it instilled fear into >most men. Her mother laughed. ( I had never met her before. ) > >-----Original Message----- > >".....and Bob's your uncle." > >....am not. > >Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 24 09:31:48 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:31:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Early next month I'll go hunting for the metal scrap In-Reply-To: References: <008201c8164d$574e9600$9a00a8c0@PaulsLaptop>, Message-ID: <471F02F4.13313.4311BD@dmg.bossig.com> Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much..... ;^D On 24 Oct 2007 at 15:27, Robert Duquette wrote: >> I guess I should have said that I had never met "them" before. :) >> >> I was going to start explaining what I meant by it, but I'm sure that you >> know. >> >> RD >> >> >From: "Paul Van Wig" >> > >> >Please clarify "I had never met her before" The mom or the little girl? >> >Inquiring minds want to >> >know? >> > >> > >> >Paul Van Wig >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Robert Duquette >> > >> >A toddler pointed at me a couple of weeks ago and said "dad". I told her >> >to >> >be careful where she pointed when she said that as it instilled fear into >> >most men. Her mother laughed. ( I had never met her before. ) >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> > >> >".....and Bob's your uncle." >> > >> >....am not. >> > >> >Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) >> _______________________________________________ >> dmg at bossig.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 09:39:20 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:39:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Code Needed - OE White Message-ID: <380-2200710324153920765@earthlink.net> Tim Collins wrote: "I am ready to have my Sprite painted but I need a paint code for > Diamont paint for OLD ENGLISH WHITE. My painter couldn't find OEW in his computer system and said he would have to make a call." I may be mistaken, but I think your painter will have a little trouble finding it, for the *original" recipe does not seem to found anywhere. When I was preparing my car for the BusterCluster, I finally went to MAACO in Stanton, California. It is hard to believe that anyone would go to the extent they did to get the *perfect* OEW. Fortunately, I had some virgin paint under the tail light assemblies they could be guided by. They began with the OEW formula they could find, but were not satisfied. They then mixed, as I recall, three more formulae until they got a perfect match with the virgin paint. You might check with them, or with MAACO's corporate headquarters that is also aware of the project. Some contacts: Martin Megnin MAACO of Stanton (714) 821-5161 or Bill Silverman MAACO Corporate bsilverman at maaco.com Buster Evan From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 09:50:47 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:50:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net> Robert Duquette wrote: "California will someday drop into the ocean" Naw, a lot of people have been wishing that about New York for ages. Never happened. "it used to be that people didn't stray far from where they were born." But that was a VERY long time ago. The enduring thesis in understanding the unique American character is how people kept moving on toward a new frontier. It began by crossing the Atlantic 400 years ago, and continues as American reach for outer space. "For myself, I live 65 miles from my birthplace." But you're still gonna DIE! " It surprizes me, at times, that people live in danger zones..." And yet, mankind has survived! And survived quite well. Buste From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 10:01:32 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:01:32 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Say it ain't so !!! >From: "Robert Bruce Evans" > >But you're still gonna DIE! > >Buste From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Oct 24 10:43:31 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:43:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20071023205141.03225da0@pop.earthlink.net> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <6.2.0.14.2.20071023205141.03225da0@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20071024114331.fyy8cjcz404kcwkg@webmail.opentransfer.com> FWIW to those of us not in SoCal, CNN has a Google Maps sat pic with the fires marked. Looks like a mess. as of 2:40 this am 19 fires, 900,000 evaced, 1100 homes gone and 412,519 acres burned. But, thankfully, so far, only one fatality. http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/10/23/fire.map/index.html My thoughts to all in the area. Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 24 10:54:41 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:54:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires References: Message-ID: <014b01c8165e$937ae1e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> California won't drop off into the Pacific, but rather some of the state will drift north and soon will be off the Oregon Coast! I'm still not going to stay up late for it!! Paul A (In Oregon!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > What a vindictive mother nature can be! > > California will someday drop > into the ocean, From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 10:58:38 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] wishbones In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710240958v5ecca7ap39c72f0c5d4136e7@mail.gmail.com> Eric Jones in Delaware Ohio (740) 363-2203 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 10:59:31 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:59:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <20071024114331.fyy8cjcz404kcwkg@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <6.2.0.14.2.20071023205141.03225da0@pop.earthlink.net> <20071024114331.fyy8cjcz404kcwkg@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710240959xf2a60a8t12385ae36cdc6a9f@mail.gmail.com> There should be two fatalaties. They should have killed the guy they caught starting fires. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:00:09 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:00:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710241000k3fb4a67ei62216ebb91692fac@mail.gmail.com> Robert Duquette wrote: > " It surprizes me, at times, that people live in danger zones..." Buster replied: > And yet, mankind has survived! And survived quite well. I will submit from an earth scientists point of view that you cannot find a place that isn't a danger zone for something or other. Tornadoes: Earthquakes: Hurricanes: And we haven't even talked about large hail, damaging thunderstorm winds, deadly lightning, flooding, excessive heat, excessive cold, volcanic activity.... As we have seen in the grizzly news stories lately, one is not even safe in ones mother's womb!! What scares me most, however, is government incompetency!! Everything in life is a calculated risk. -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:05:10 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:05:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710240959xf2a60a8t12385ae36cdc6a9f@mail.gmail.com> References: <003501c815a3$bd7eb770$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <6.2.2.1.2.20071023130043.026d7608@popd.ix.netcom.com> <002801c815ee$0c128840$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <6.2.0.14.2.20071023205141.03225da0@pop.earthlink.net> <20071024114331.fyy8cjcz404kcwkg@webmail.opentransfer.com> <5f00d9910710240959xf2a60a8t12385ae36cdc6a9f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710241005g657c99aey7db99f8e27fc4d61@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/07, derf wrote: > There should be two fatalaties. They should have killed the guy they > caught starting fires. Slowly and painfully.... -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 11:09:47 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710232224y3934a65pb2ff15340fb7292f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <737252.53198.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jim, Close - Our Canadian friends say he IS a hoser.... A? Vigil Jim Johnson wrote: Our Canadian friends say he IS a hoser.... Eh? Cheers!! Jim On 10/23/07, RampantNM at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/23/2007 3:28:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: > > Volunteers from all over flocked to the Gulf Coast after Katrina and > > did more good than 100 FEMAs could have done. > > > > > Has anyone notified Sean Penn and loaned him a hose? _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 24 11:13:18 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:13:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <014b01c8165e$937ae1e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: > some of the state > will drift north and soon will be off the Oregon Coast! Cool. If Northern CA becomes an island, and we can convince L.A. to Secede and become part of Mexico, maybe we can get this mess sorted out. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 24 11:23:50 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:23:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires References: Message-ID: <01bf01c81662$a607e340$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Don't get too excited!! The state will split at Daly City in it's drift northwards, taking Baja with it and that means SF gets new southern neighbors along the way!!!! No. California pretty much stays put!! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Paul Asgeirsson" ; "Robert Duquette" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > > some of the state > > will drift north and soon will be off the Oregon Coast! > Cool. If Northern CA becomes an island, and we can convince L.A. to Secede > and become part of Mexico, maybe we can get this mess sorted out. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:23:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: The SoCal Fires Now: Impending Disasters, Doom, and Gloom Message-ID: <5f00d9910710241023t5446a019scd5f692341345b5f@mail.gmail.com> If you want to worry here are some things for you: Earthquakes. Anytime. Anyplace. Equal opportunity destruction. Volcanos. There is supposedly a very big one under Yellowstone, you know, the Old Faithful thing. Debris falling from space. The NEW and improved Staph bacteria. The Military Industrial Complex. Hillarycare. I can't believe her opponents are not referrring to her agenda as "Hillaryous". Maybe they are scared she will win. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 11:32:11 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:32:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen In-Reply-To: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <4DACB430-6C1D-42FB-BC4C-C6BC24100731@comcast.net> .... and will they come and steal my walls of SAAB stuff.. NOoooo.. Lester .. I can't imagine losing all of those special bits.. On Oct 23, 2007, at 4:42 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > This poor guy from Detroit got lots of vintage MG stuff stolen. > > http://tinyurl.com/yu468w > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you must unsubscribe from the Bugeye Interest Group, please send > an email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website and change your > subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > 13 > New Members > 13 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Y! Sports for TV > Game Day Companion > > Live fantasy league > > & game stats on TV. > > Yahoo! News > Kevin Sites > > Get coverage of > > world crises. > > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > . > > __,_._,___ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 24 11:35:17 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:35:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen References: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry> <4DACB430-6C1D-42FB-BC4C-C6BC24100731@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00c001c81664$3ea8f520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > .... and will they come and steal my walls of SAAB stuff.. NOoooo.. Send us your address, we would hate to have you feel left out. Maybe Chuck needs some spares... Larry Daniels From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 24 11:43:29 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen References: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry><4DACB430-6C1D-42FB-BC4C-C6BC24100731@comcast.net> <00c001c81664$3ea8f520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <02d001c81665$6436a570$6401a8c0@Larry> Hey, hey, leave me out of your felonious conspiracy. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen > .... and will they come and steal my walls of SAAB stuff.. NOoooo.. Send us your address, we would hate to have you feel left out. Maybe Chuck needs some spares... Larry Daniels _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1089 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 7:39 PM From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:46:43 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:46:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen In-Reply-To: <02d001c81665$6436a570$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <00a001c815bd$90ab3240$6401a8c0@Larry> <4DACB430-6C1D-42FB-BC4C-C6BC24100731@comcast.net> <00c001c81664$3ea8f520$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <02d001c81665$6436a570$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710241046o5f4cf1bm6da12f3c2e8113f0@mail.gmail.com> keep an eye out for a set of civic SI wheels wrapped in hankook race rubber while youre watching for the MG stuff! thieves can suck my parts! On 10/24/07, Larry Daniels wrote: > > Hey, hey, leave me out of your felonious conspiracy. > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Lots of MG stuff stolen > > > > .... and will they come and steal my walls of SAAB stuff.. NOoooo.. > > Send us your address, we would hate to have you feel left out. > Maybe Chuck needs some spares... > Larry Daniels > _______________________________________________ > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1089 - Release Date: > 10/23/2007 > 7:39 PM > _______________________________________________ > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Oct 24 11:48:31 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:48:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Message-ID: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I dated a girl in the days of yore that couldn't continue the relationship becasue she was moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea with the next big one". A real believer in the "end days" crap. Pity she didn't take a geology class. The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific plate. California is actually rising, not sinking. Oh, well, I did better in the long run. Glen From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 11:51:45 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:51:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710241051s9521dftdb7f55718a4c0a94@mail.gmail.com> ill bet you miss the nuthouse conjugal visits though. On 10/24/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > > I dated a girl in the days of yore that couldn't continue the relationship > becasue she was moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea with the > next > big one". A real believer in the "end days" crap. Pity she didn't take a > geology class. The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific > plate. > California is actually rising, not sinking. Oh, well, I did better in the > long run. > > Glen > -- "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 - 09/15/2007 From peter at nosimport.com Wed Oct 24 11:58:44 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:58:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071024125742.0369a0e8@nosimport.com> At 12:48 PM 10/24/2007, Glen Byrns wrote: >I dated a girl in the days of yore that couldn't continue the relationship >becasue she was moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea with the next >big one". A real believer in the "end days" crap. Pity she didn't take a >geology class. The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific plate. >California is actually rising, not sinking. Oh, well, I did better in the >long run. > >Glen ============== Glen I hate to break this to you, but that not what she meant when she said she's leaving because of the big one.... ED From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 24 12:04:54 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:04:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea I remember wondering if I could make a killing on Arizona beachfront property. I decided that trying to make a living as a musician seemed like more of a sure thing. BZ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 24 12:07:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:07:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! References: Message-ID: <00d001c81668$c9635800$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea > I remember wondering if I could make a killing on Arizona beachfront > property. I decided that trying to make a living as a musician seemed like > more of a sure thing. Don't keep us in suspense! Was it more of a sure thing? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 12:09:40 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:09:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <00d001c81668$c9635800$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <00d001c81668$c9635800$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710241109i2b873753h73e7a946606fdc7d@mail.gmail.com> Music=more women. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 12:14:50 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:14:50 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 65 In-Reply-To: <737252.53198.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No. "eh" is the correct spelling and pronounced "aye". RD great white north >From: > >Jim, > > Close - Our Canadian friends say he IS a hoser.... A? > >Vigil > >Jim Johnson wrote: > Our Canadian friends say he IS a hoser.... Eh? > >Cheers!! >Jim From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 12:19:43 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:19:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: I just don't understand why they can't be honest and tell you the real reason that they're leaving you?!?! :) >From: "Glen Byrns" > >I dated a girl in the days of yore that couldn't continue the relationship >becasue she was moving to Arizona to avoid "sliding into the sea with the >next >big one". A real believer in the "end days" crap. Pity she didn't take a >geology class. The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific >plate. >California is actually rising, not sinking. Oh, well, I did better in the >long run. > >Glen From lists at woozy.com Wed Oct 24 12:27:38 2007 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:27:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <8a336b9d0710241051s9521dftdb7f55718a4c0a94@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <8a336b9d0710241051s9521dftdb7f55718a4c0a94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471F8E9A.6000207@woozy.com> Who doesn't? Flash. wrote: > ill bet you miss the nuthouse conjugal visits though. From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 24 12:31:21 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:31:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. - There's a drought??? Message-ID: <471F2D09.32605.E77200@dmg.bossig.com> Obviously *not* if you're a hockey fan... http://tinyurl.com/38y6s3 - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 24 12:41:53 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:41:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu><8a336b9d0710241051s9521dftdb7f55718a4c0a94@mail.gmail.com> <471F8E9A.6000207@woozy.com> Message-ID: <031c01c8166d$8cd64c80$6401a8c0@Larry> Did Glen know about you and her? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Weeks" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Who doesn't? Flash. wrote: > ill bet you miss the nuthouse conjugal visits though. _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.8/1089 - Release Date: 10/23/2007 7:39 PM From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 13:01:19 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:01:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710241201h24a4671ana78fa18d2960f68c@mail.gmail.com> On 10/24/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific plate. > California is actually rising, not sinking. Ummm... Glen... The San Andreas is a classic right-lateral, strike-slip fault. No subduction at all. All land west of the fault on the Pacific Plate is moving slowly to the northwest while all land east of the fault is moving to the southwest (relatively southeast as measured at the fault) under the influence of plate tectonics. The rate of slippage averages approximately 33-37 mm/year across California. Projected motion indicates that the Gulf of California will expand northward at the same time that the landmass west of the fault, including the Baja California peninsula and the California coast (including Los Angeles) slides past San Francisco, then continuing northwestward as an island mass toward the Aleutian Trench, over a period of perhaps twenty million years. Throughout that process, there will be occasional *very* violent and destructive quakes as the lateral pressure builds along a snag in the fault strike-slip line. This per my geology courses (Univ. Nebr) and per my brother, chief geologist for Alphageosciences who turned down a lucrative position with a California firm years ago saying, "Knowing what you do about the earthquake situation in this area, you want me to move my family here?" Go to the UC Davis head office and ask for your money back on that geo course ;-) - Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 13:06:42 2007 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FOR SALE 1972 Midget RWA*** Message-ID: <483584.56669.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ok, I am going to sell her this time. Bobbie MG, the red 1972 RWA midget needs to go to a good home. I just can't work on the car anymore, I have been too freakin ill. First the Lymphoma, now something else is taking away all my strengh, and vitality. Bobbie MG is in a garage in Oak Ridge Tennessee just waiting for you to come and rescue her. For photos please go to http://community.webshots.com/album/559406907rrAaLk for a look. The brakes have all been redone, (master, rotors, bearings, seals, calipers, hoses, wheel cyls, shoes and pads) replaced or rebuilt. New carbs, K+N filter housings and filters, short ram tubes, the body is mostly rust free. The floor boards have had the rust removed and fiber glassed over. The front suspension has been al rebuilt, rear springs replaced. The body needs smoothed out and painted. Only small dings and scratches and a litte bondo to deal with. New top installed. I am going to loose my parking spot really soon. The house where she is is going to be sold soon. All of you who have spent time and money on one of these cars know how much time and money goes into a rehab. So go take a look at the pictures, drop me a line if you are really interested and I will arrange a showing. Thaanks, Lon Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 13:16:11 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:16:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710241201h24a4671ana78fa18d2960f68c@mail.gmail.com> References: <000601c81666$179b0610$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0710241201h24a4671ana78fa18d2960f68c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710241216r15245df6qad1604c307db9615@mail.gmail.com> NERD On 10/24/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > On 10/24/07, Glen Byrns wrote: > > The continental shelf is riding UP and OVER the Pacific plate. > > California is actually rising, not sinking. > > Ummm... Glen... The San Andreas is a classic right-lateral, > strike-slip fault. No subduction at all. All land west of the fault > on the Pacific Plate is moving slowly to the northwest while all land > east of the fault is moving to the southwest (relatively southeast as > measured at the fault) under the influence of plate tectonics. The > rate of slippage averages approximately 33-37 mm/year across > California. > > Projected motion indicates that the Gulf of California will expand > northward at the same time that the landmass west of the fault, > including the Baja California peninsula and the California coast > (including Los Angeles) slides past San Francisco, then continuing > northwestward as an island mass toward the Aleutian Trench, over a > period of perhaps twenty million years. > > Throughout that process, there will be occasional *very* violent and > destructive quakes as the lateral pressure builds along a snag in the > fault strike-slip line. > > This per my geology courses (Univ. Nebr) and per my brother, chief > geologist for Alphageosciences who turned down a lucrative position > with a California firm years ago saying, "Knowing what you do about > the earthquake situation in this area, you want me to move my family > here?" > > Go to the UC Davis head office and ask for your money back on that geo > course ;-) > - > Cheers!! > Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City > Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! > For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org > _______________________________________________ > > -- > "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible > and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at > the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you > just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 > - 09/15/2007 From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Oct 24 13:17:57 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:17:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <014b01c8165e$937ae1e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <014b01c8165e$937ae1e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <471F9A65.5000504@verizon.net> The Siegle-Schwall blues band, back in the 70's, had a wonderful lyric went like "Sittin' On Nevada's Shoreline ...". chuck From stargazer1 at cox.net Wed Oct 24 14:44:25 2007 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <01bf01c81662$a607e340$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <01bf01c81662$a607e340$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <471FAEA9.8060909@cox.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: >Don't get too excited!! The state will split at Daly City in it's drift >northwards, taking Baja with it and that means SF gets new southern >neighbors along the way!!!! > > Don't tell the talking heads on the news. They'll start ranting about this new strategy for illegal immigration. :-) I'm in Poway, northeast of San Diego. Yes, this would be the wrong direction. We got to move back to our house last night. No fire damage, some downed trees and wind damage. There are thousands who weren't as lucky. We're doing well this time because we had a dress rehearsal 4 years ago and people around here care enough to do something. Businesses have been volunteering food and services, and people have been bringing supplies. We have a reputation for being laid back, but we understand that any government can get overwhelmed. When that happens, you give tools and information to the people, we'll take care of the rest. Managed to burn 900 square miles in the last fire. We're already up to 600 square miles for this one. Roasting away in the mid-90's. Best to all, Dave Ambrose From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 14:51:00 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:51:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-220071032420510187@earthlink.net> Robert Duquette wrote: "Say it ain't so !!!" Sorry, but I always get stuck carrying the bad news! Probably runs in the family, for Sophocles wrote about one of my ancestors in "Antigone", and Shakespeare in "Henry IV". However, I am the bearer of good tidings, for until that day arrives, you will be alive. Whether or not you *live* is up to you!!!! Come on out and live a little!!! Buste From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 14:56:56 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:56:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710241000k3fb4a67ei62216ebb91692fac@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net> <43840a7e0710241000k3fb4a67ei62216ebb91692fac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190710241356u24a78aa0m7e3936df8c5cf467@mail.gmail.com> 6 feet under. Very safe. On 10/24/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > I will submit from an earth scientists point of view that you cannot > find a place that isn't a danger zone for something or other. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Oct 24 14:58:38 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:58:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <471F9A65.5000504@verizon.net> Message-ID: > The Siegle-Schwall blues band Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a while. The last time I saw them was at the Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston, about a hundred years ago. BZ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 24 14:58:32 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <441250190710241356u24a78aa0m7e3936df8c5cf467@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-22007103241550470@earthlink.net><43840a7e0710241000k3fb4a67ei62216ebb91692fac@mail.gmail.com> <441250190710241356u24a78aa0m7e3936df8c5cf467@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Worms -----Original Message----- From: Bill Gilroy 6 feet under. Very safe. On 10/24/07, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > I will submit from an earth scientists point of view that you cannot > find a place that isn't a danger zone for something or other. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Oct 24 15:11:54 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:11:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <32372229.1193260314018.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You should all be groovin' to sophisticated sounds of Southern Culture On The Skids. Sample their wares here: http://www.scots.com/ jay fishbein wallingford, ct -----Original Message----- >From: Billy Zoom >Sent: Oct 24, 2007 4:58 PM >To: cciaffone at verizon.net, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > >> The Siegle-Schwall blues band >Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a while. >The last time I saw them was at the Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston, about >a hundred years ago. >BZ >_______________________________________________ >type79 at ix.netcom.com > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From type79 at ix.netcom.com Wed Oct 24 15:12:22 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <18939765.1193260342996.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> You should all be groovin' to sophisticated sounds of Southern Culture On The Skids. Sample their wares here: http://www.scots.com/ jay fishbein wallingford, ct -----Original Message----- >From: Billy Zoom >Sent: Oct 24, 2007 4:58 PM >To: cciaffone at verizon.net, spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > >> The Siegle-Schwall blues band >Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a while. >The last time I saw them was at the Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston, about >a hundred years ago. >BZ From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 15:20:00 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:20:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. - There's a drought??? Message-ID: <380-220071032421200296@earthlink.net> Dave G. wrote: " There's a drought???...Obviously *not* if you're a hockey fan..." Wait a minute! Are you questioning the non-negotiable demands of university jocks? (Errr, since this is a women's team, would they be "bras"?) Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 15:28:02 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:28:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Message-ID: <380-220071032421282187@earthlink.net> derf wrote: "Music=more women." Billy's groupies are now the Blue Rinse Brigade. Buster From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 24 15:53:17 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:53:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires References: Message-ID: <035901c81688$4a0d0630$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires > The Siegle-Schwall blues band Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a while. The last time I saw them was at the Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston, about a hundred years ago. BZ ============================== They're still around. I saw them last summer at one of our city's every-Thursday-night concerts. They still can play, too. Corky and Jim were there but I don't know how many of the others were original. I also met Michael Allsup (Three Dog Night) from this list this past summer at another Thursday night concert. (Greetings, Michael.) LAD From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 16:45:31 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:45:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Code Needed - OE White In-Reply-To: <69cq7p$1nbh60@email.mtu.edu> References: <69cq7p$1nbh60@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <471FCB0B.8030601@comcast.net> Tim I just did the 58 in OEW but not really. I used a 64 Ford Falcon white. It was a Dupont paint All the can says is code M -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From RampantNM at aol.com Wed Oct 24 16:49:14 2007 From: RampantNM at aol.com (RampantNM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:49:14 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 68 Message-ID: In a message dated 10/24/2007 11:45:47 AM Mountain Daylight Time, spridgets-request at autox.team.net writes: "Hillaryous". Maybe they are scared she will win. Aren't we all???? Regards, Robert B. Houston 74.5 MGBGT 73 MG Midget As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union carburetors in his vintage MG, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Haynes shop manual. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Oct 24 17:06:46 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <035901c81688$4a0d0630$6401a8c0@Larry> References: <035901c81688$4a0d0630$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <471FD006.3020305@verizon.net> The Siegle-Schwall blues band > Now there's someone I haven't thought about in a while. > The last time I saw them was at the Psychedelic Supermarket in Boston, about > a hundred years ago. > BZ > ============================== > > Saw Corky some years ago live in Charlotte NC doing a solo act. Class stuff. Got a signed tape. We pride ourselves on having ALL the Siegle-Schwall vinyl albums ever made. Chased them down thru thrift shops all over NC. We used to ride our indoor bicycle trainers to Angel Food Cake many many years ago when we raced. Spring came, we were ready to rock and roll. nick From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 17:46:45 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:46:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430710241646v7dcfbdaen21a165beacb35cda@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the help I bought a used auto trans form a Saturn parts shop in Florida when it started to slightly bang in reverse they said I needed a new valve body which I have & putting in. Could I buy this "shift kit in it's place if so where do I get it? Thanks Lin On 10/24/07, derf wrote: > > Everything. It directs pressurized trans fluid through passages to do > different things. You can put a "shift kit" in an automatic trans to > change the way it operates by changing valve body action. > Cheers, > Derf > > > On 10/24/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Listers, > > What does an automatic transmission valve body do? > > Thanks Linda From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 17:53:15 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] wiring up a horn MKII In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710240729t68fb40aer30d10b81d5d9d07b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240326j3261063kf33c20b2d820bc84@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240729t68fb40aer30d10b81d5d9d07b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430710241653t9dd845awad6ccd3e39a96069@mail.gmail.com> Thanks List got it. Lin On 10/24/07, derf wrote: > > The button should ground the horn. So, just send one wire to the > existing horn wire behind the dash and the other to ground. > Cheers, > Derf From hal at katemuir.com Wed Oct 24 17:56:31 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:56:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Driveshaft yoke Message-ID: Help, anyone out there got a front yoke for a late 1275 driveshaft, the one that goes into the transmission? How much do you want for it? Hal From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:09:21 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:09:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Code Needed - OE White In-Reply-To: <471FCB0B.8030601@comcast.net> References: <69cq7p$1nbh60@email.mtu.edu> <471FCB0B.8030601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710241709o63d462d0k9fb6989a33a867dd@mail.gmail.com> That's probably the same as my 66 Mustang's "Wimbledon White". On 10/24/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > Tim > > I just did the 58 in OEW but not really. > I used a 64 Ford Falcon white. It was a Dupont paint > All the can says is code M > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > derf247 at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 18:11:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:11:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question In-Reply-To: <205cef430710241646v7dcfbdaen21a165beacb35cda@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430710241646v7dcfbdaen21a165beacb35cda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710241711m517901fcgd32aa09f7209b695@mail.gmail.com> The "shift kit" is more for performance upgrades for hot rodding. I don't know if hot rodding and Saturn go together, though. Sounds like you need a reference to a good auto trans shop. Cheers, Derf From kgrowler at aol.com Wed Oct 24 18:14:09 2007 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:14:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siegel-Schwall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9E4B3195CA7B4-338-5A2F@MBLK-M05.sysops.aol.com> <<>> Maybe its from when I edited 'MGB Driver', but I guess I'm overly spelling sensitive. It's Corky Siegel. (I checked on the CD of the '88 reunion concert to make sure it's not 'Siegal' like I first thought). Then I played 'I Think It Was the Wine' for old times sake. Don't get me going on 'concours' versus 'concourse'... ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois, USA ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Oct 24 18:16:20 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:16:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Soeed Speedo Cable Message-ID: <543561841.20071024171620@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, i roont the speedo cable for the 5 speed conversion.. i have the new one, but i'll be darned if i can get it started into the angle drive. any suggestions aside from pulling the motor and tranny? anyone cut hole in side of the tunnel from frustration? how to patch same hole? tips, hints, comments, suggestions? TIA -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) * "I've read all Shakespeare's works," said Tom wilfully. From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 24 18:54:31 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:54:31 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Gen re-build Message-ID: I ordered the bearing and bushing etc to rebuild my gererator.AS I recall, the plate that secured the ball bearing in place was held in place by rivets.Is there room in there for small machine screws, or will I have to try to rivet it in? Bob C ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BCAH at aol.com Wed Oct 24 18:57:12 2007 From: BCAH at aol.com (BCAH at aol.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:57:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] splined hubs Message-ID: I just bought a couple of new wire wheels and will be getting new splined hubs shortly. Just how much force will it take to press the old ones off and the new ones on to the shaft? Bob C ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Oct 24 19:05:15 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:05:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Siegel-Schwall In-Reply-To: <8C9E4B3195CA7B4-338-5A2F@MBLK-M05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9E4B3195CA7B4-338-5A2F@MBLK-M05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <471FEBCB.8070303@verizon.net> kgrowler at aol.com wrote: > <<>> > > Maybe its from when I edited 'MGB Driver', but I guess I'm overly > spelling sensitive. It's Corky Siegel. (I checked on the CD of the '88 > reunion concert to make sure it's not 'Siegal' like I first thought). > Then I played 'I Think It Was the Wine' for old times sake. > > Ooops, yeah, have not looked at an album liner in a while. And I worked for years as a writer, too. Shame on me. Really love 'AND I Think It Was the Wine' From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 19:22:16 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:22:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gen re-build In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471FEFC8.10007@comcast.net> BCAH at aol.com wrote: > I ordered the bearing and bushing etc to rebuild my gererator.AS I recall, > the plate that secured the ball bearing in place was held in place by > rivets.Is there room in there for small machine screws, or will I have to try to > rivet it in? Bob C I used 8/32 machine screws a few times, just watch, I think I had to grind down the heads of the screws or cut the length down pretty short. I just used what was around, you can probably buy 1/2" long screws. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 19:25:39 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <380-220071032421282187@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <910530.59225.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > Billy's groupies are now the Blue Rinse Brigade. The girl who lifted her mini-dress and was willingly getting spanked with the beer bottle by another young lady backstage at the OC fair show was definitely not of the blue rinse variety. To this day she remains an occasional smile that Lynette doesn't understand. Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Oct 24 19:34:20 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710241201h24a4671ana78fa18d2960f68c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <554197.46914.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Right...Like we believe a weatherman.... --- Jim Johnson wrote: > Ummm... Glen... The San Andreas is a classic > right-lateral, > strike-slip fault. No subduction at all. All land > west of the fault > on the Pacific Plate is moving slowly to the > northwest while all land > east of the fault is moving to the southwest > (relatively southeast as > measured at the fault) under the influence of plate > tectonics. The > rate of slippage averages approximately 33-37 > mm/year across > California. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 19:44:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:44:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-22007104251448656@earthlink.net> Billy Zoom wrote: "Cool. If Northern CA becomes an island, and we can convince L.A. to Secede and become part of Mexico, maybe we can get this mess sorted out." As early at the 1850's, and as late as the 1920's, there were serious movements to split California into two separate states, Northern and Southern. But with the election of Antonio Villaraigosa as mayor of Los Angeles (referred to my many in the Hispanic community as "Alcalde de Los Angeles"), he brings another solution. As a student, he was a chapter president of Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA). Part of the MEChA manifesto is a demand that La Raza [literally The Race] must reclaim the territory, *"using force if necessary..."*! It is their contention that Alta California and the American southwest was illegally taken from the Hispanic people - regardless of what the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo says. Villaraigosa remains a member of MEChA, and has adamantly refused to disavow its philosophy of violent overthrow of the government. After his election, the watchword around Southern California was often heard, "Los Angeles today. California tomorrow!" And some naive people believe the illegal invasion is harmless! Buster Evan From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 19:45:35 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:45:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-22007104251453578@earthlink.net> Paul Asgeirsson "Don't get too excited!! The state will split at Daly City in it's drift northwards, taking Baja with it and that means SF gets new southern neighbors along the way!!!!" Ah, then San Francisco would finally get their just desserts! Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 19:47:16 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:47:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: The SoCal Fires Now: Impending Disasters, Doom, and Gloom Message-ID: <380-220071042514716781@earthlink.net> derf wrote: "Hillarycare. I can't believe her opponents are not referrring to her agenda as "Hillaryous". " Not until you coined it! Thank you for your contribution to the Mad Cow threat. Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 19:53:41 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:53:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Message-ID: <380-220071042515341515@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "The girl who lifted her mini-dress and was willingly...was definitely not of the blue rinse variety." Uh, could it have been that Mommy sent her to her father for a spanking? Just wondering about that wild concert night in Peoria in 1985? Buste From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 20:05:28 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:05:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Message-ID: <380-22007104252528609@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "The girl who lifted her mini-dress and was willingly getting spanked with the beer bottle by another young lady backstage at the OC fair show ....To this day she remains an occasional smile that Lynette doesn't understand. And you bloody well better hope she NEVER does!!! I will simply leave it at that, for you know what payback means! Buster From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 20:11:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:11:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <380-22007104251448656@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007104251448656@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <471FFB56.2080903@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > It is their contention > that Alta California and the American southwest was illegally taken from > the Hispanic people - Wait just a minute. Didn't the Spanish "take" most of mexico and S. America in the 1500s? Sort of like "WE" took N. America from the Indians. So who's giving back what to whom and when? We are all SOL -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 20:18:55 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:18:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] California sliding away....NOT! Message-ID: <380-220071042521855968@earthlink.net> Flash wrote: "NERD" Naw, just a coward cowering in a storm cellar in Dodge City!!!! Like Puxatawney Phil, he comes out each spring, wets his finger to the wind, and crawls back down in his hole, turns on the TV, and guzzles beer. Buster Evan From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Oct 24 20:27:53 2007 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:27:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels Message-ID: <01ad01c816ae$a5e4e060$0600a8c0@Dell9200> I finally decided to put my spare in the cave last night and it was flat. New tire never on the ground. I had it mounted about 6 months ago. I filled it up and it is down 5 psi in 24 hours. Did the steel wheels require a tube? Do rivets leak? Any good way to seal them up other than a tube? Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com 58 "Bugeye" 66 TR4A S2-27 WB0NOO From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 20:33:17 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:33:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels In-Reply-To: <01ad01c816ae$a5e4e060$0600a8c0@Dell9200> References: <01ad01c816ae$a5e4e060$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710241933i1d15e8f1i22cde0e078acc23c@mail.gmail.com> More likely the bead didn't seat well or the valve is leaking. Take it back to the installer and ask him to see where it is leaking. You may need to break the bead, clean the rim and re-install the tire. Or, check it yourself. Fill it with air and dunk it in the bathtub. The bubbles will tell the tale. From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 21:16:29 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:16:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gen re-build References: Message-ID: <056a01c816b5$6fc7b5f0$6601a8c0@actualshop> IIRC Bob C, you are in the KC area?? <> Yes there is for EXPERIENCED folks. "Try to..."?? I do not recommend you do it. Surely, within the entire two major cities there is a generator re-builder or two?? Might cost ya $10 - $20. Too "expensive"?? Ed From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 21:17:50 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:17:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] splined hubs References: Message-ID: <057001c816b5$a00ce370$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Ask your personal sales rep??? Ought to know. Ed From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 21:19:18 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels Message-ID: <27102129.1193282358489.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ok , you could have a few problems. all too frequently the shrader valve in the valve stem is either defective or was not tightened up enough when reinstalled after seating the tire bead on the rim. the hole thatthe valve stem needs to be nice and clean of rust or dirt so the stem seals itself to the rim. the rim's bead seats need to be very clean and as smooth as possible as that area of a tire is rather rigid and can only seal surface imperfections just so much. (rusty rims drive tire guys insane as then they use something asan owner you really want to avoid "tire bead sealer" wich makes rubber cement / look like water!). if you are using an early riveted rim there is a remote possibility therim hasseen spirited use early in it's wage and might have a leaky rivet. and the worst case is the kind and ever lovving gentle tire installer damaged the tire's bead and tore it somewhere. easy test is to remove valve stem cap and literally put a bubble of spit on theend of the stem where you inflate it! if it blows bubbles you found the culprit. the next step is to wait untill wife is not home (VERY IMPORTAINT!) (they do not apreciate car parts in the tub or tools in the dish washer for some unknown reason??(transmission cases really get 'em worked up too!) and submerge the tire and watch for the telll tale bubbles. chuck cascade really does leave tools spot free! ;) and youse guys thought i died or fell of the face of the earth! -----Original Message----- >From: Mark >Sent: Oct 24, 2007 10:27 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels > >I finally decided to put my spare in the cave last night and it was flat. >New tire never on the ground. I had it mounted about 6 months ago. I >filled it up and it is down 5 psi in 24 hours. Did the steel wheels require >a tube? Do rivets leak? Any good way to seal them up other than a tube? From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 24 21:19:39 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:19:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Code Needed - OE White References: <69cq7p$1nbh60@email.mtu.edu> <471FCB0B.8030601@comcast.net> <5f00d9910710241709o63d462d0k9fb6989a33a867dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <057a01c816b5$e1c62510$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Actually derf, VERY close. I WILL have some further, deffinative for all tomorrow (hopefully). Ed From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 21:28:20 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels Message-ID: <22679788.1193282900426.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> out of curiosity? are you using the early version of the riveted wheels or the late style? early had very short raised reinforcement ribs between ther lug nut holes and the later had a longer reinforcement rib wich was to reduce the flexing and cracking found in the earlier style rim. lester.....check your rims! chuck i have a 5" wide set of later riveted rims wich are now welded. :) -----Original Message----- >From: Mark >Sent: Oct 24, 2007 10:27 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels > >I finally decided to put my spare in the cave last night and it was flat. >New tire never on the ground. I had it mounted about 6 months ago. I >filled it up and it is down 5 psi in 24 hours. Did the steel wheels require >a tube? Do rivets leak? Any good way to seal them up other than a tube? From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 21:33:19 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:33:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires Message-ID: <380-220071042533319218@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "Wait just a minute. Didn't the Spanish "take" most of mexico and S. America in the 1500s? Sort of like "WE" took N. America from the Indians. So who's giving back what to whom and when?" Hey, what are you trying to do? Bring a little logic and reasoning into it? That is not fair! Buster From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 21:39:32 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ansen sprint alloy wheels with oval holes between lug holes Message-ID: <4406570.1193283572353.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> i'm still seeking two ansen sprint alloy rims to comlete my pair for a future vintage racer project. the two i have came from a vega. center caps , lug nuts ....i'm not interested. just two solid reconditional rims. anyone? i'm also seeking a red anodised speedwell velocity stack. frank , ya seen one lately? i'm seeking the parts to build a spridget and wish i could get my car ready for next year but have too many commitments to others and umm , frank , larry , kevin , rob, youse guys have seen my stuff! i'm trying to beat winter to box and move it all! i'll never organise by winter, but want to move it ALL! but 20' trailer load moves saturday closer to kevins saturday! 9 vehicles moved so far! still have 5 here! not including daily beaters! chuck. life in turmoil! From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 24 21:44:00 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:44:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] The SoCal Fires In-Reply-To: <380-220071042533319218@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071042533319218@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <471FAE90.9254.2E16C46@dmg.bossig.com> If you can't fool them with facts, and You can't dazzle them with data, then baffle them with bullshit!! It works with the Grandkids.... sometimes! On 24 Oct 2007 at 20:33, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> Frank Clarici wrote: "Wait just a minute. Didn't the Spanish "take" most >> of mexico and S. America in the 1500s? Sort of like "WE" took N. America >> from the Indians. So who's giving back what to whom and when?" >> >> Hey, what are you trying to do? Bring a little logic and reasoning into >> it? That is not fair! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 24 22:20:18 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:20:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The fires--a personal note Message-ID: <380-220071042542018515@earthlink.net> Sometimes, just a small incident unnoticed by others can bring home the heartbreak of a disaster such as the Southern California fires. So it was with me. Our son, Scott, has always been a "rescuer"; rescuing every imaginable animal from small birds to snakes to kittens. It was only natural that he want a career with the Orange County Animal Control. Two weeks ago, he was promoted to lieutenant, and he has been the field commander in the rescue and evacuation of everything from dogs and cats to horses and llamas threatened by the fire. Yesterday, he had to do the one thing he never likes to do. A young deer had been hopelessly injured, and it was left to Scott to take his rifle and put the deer down. Pretty hard for someone who has always been devoted to rescuing and nursing back to health injured animals. On the bright side, some of you may have seen him on the news in the last couple of days in one of the most bizarre incidents of the fire. A pack of llamas that had been kept in the Santiago/Trabucco Canyon area had been set free by its owner, hoping that they could somehow escape. Like everyone else evacuating the area, the llamas started to use the one road through the area, causing all kinds of confusion and consternation. So, Scott was called and had to use a tranquillizer dart to knock out the leader and calming the situation. One of the other lieutenants lives in the picturesque Modjeska Canyon area that is being devastated. At last word, his house had survived, but his neighbor's had been completely destroyed. How fickle nature can be. For maps of the burn areas in Orange County, see: http://tinyurl.com/yrzs6p http://tinyurl.com/ysfy2q http://tinyurl.com/2bn5og Buster Evans From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Oct 24 23:46:26 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:46:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gen re-build In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47202DB2.1070204@wi.net> BCAH at aol.com wrote: > I ordered the bearing and bushing etc to rebuild my gererator.AS I recall, > the plate that secured the ball bearing in place was held in place by > rivets.Is there room in there for small machine screws, or will I have to try to > rivet it in? Bob C > I just finished rebuilding 2 generators. Purchased some 3/4" long, 3/16" diameter solid rivets from the local Ace Hardware and they work fine (no parts to vibrate off; of course one could stake the bolts to prevent the nut from backing off; there's a joke there somewhere). STEEL Cherry-Max or pop rivets work too if you can find the correct length. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Oct 25 05:28:46 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:28:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The fires--a personal note In-Reply-To: <380-220071042542018515@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071042542018515@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bush? ;) -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Evans So, Scott was called and had to use a tranquillizer dart to knock out the leader and calming the situation. Buster Evans From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Oct 25 06:35:01 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:35:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels References: <01ad01c816ae$a5e4e060$0600a8c0@Dell9200> Message-ID: <006501c81703$7643e180$1da1bf46@personal> Think I would dip that tire in a water tank and see where it is leaking and no steel rims did not use anything special they hold air. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels >I finally decided to put my spare in the cave last night and it was flat. > New tire never on the ground. I had it mounted about 6 months ago. I > filled it up and it is down 5 psi in 24 hours. Did the steel wheels > require > a tube? Do rivets leak? Any good way to seal them up other than a tube? > > Mark > Nashville > http://www.arrestmered.com > 58 "Bugeye" > 66 TR4A > S2-27 > WB0NOO > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.9/1090 - Release Date: > 10/24/2007 8:48 AM From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Thu Oct 25 07:33:42 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:33:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888D7@glitas07.garverinc.local> Hey Listers, my office pal has a '57 thru '62 composite MGA. He knows it's a "1600" engine, but how can he I.D. if it's a 1598 or a 1622 ?? Please help if you can. There's just gotta be some MGA owners out there. Many Thanks, Jack From JNBrashear at garverengineers.com Thu Oct 25 08:01:36 2007 From: JNBrashear at garverengineers.com (Brashear, Jack, N) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:01:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Soeed Speedo Cable In-Reply-To: <543561841.20071024171620@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888F2@glitas07.garverinc.local> Yeah, I did the "hole in tunnel" thing on my Mk2, but not out of frustration as I planned it all the way. The angle drive seemed like it would be a PIA so I didn't use one at all. I used a Greeenlee punch large enough to pass the serrated cable nut and just curved the cable as it emerged from the hole. It lies inside the cockpit along the floor/tunnel edge and exits into the engine/trans thru the former clutch bleeder access hole. Carpet covers the cable inside and I just fit and trimmed the bleeder access plug to fit around the cable - same thing for the new tunnel hole. Everything's neat, clean, and easy to reach. It's been flawless since 1991 so I wouldn't hesitate to do it again on another car. Feel free to contact me if you'd like except I'll be away from Email this p.m. until Monday a.m. Jack -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+jnbrashear=garverengineers.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:16 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] 5 Soeed Speedo Cable Hello Spridgets, i roont the speedo cable for the 5 speed conversion.. i have the new one, but i'll be darned if i can get it started into the angle drive. any suggestions aside from pulling the motor and tranny? anyone cut hole in side of the tunnel from frustration? how to patch same hole? tips, hints, comments, suggestions? TIA -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) * "I've read all Shakespeare's works," said Tom wilfully. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 25 08:57:51 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:57:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888D7@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <045c01c81717$6b24f550$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brashear, Jack, N" To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. Hey Listers, my office pal has a '57 thru '62 composite MGA. He knows it's a "1600" engine, but how can he I.D. if it's a 1598 or a 1622 ?? Please help if you can. There's just gotta be some MGA owners out there. Many Thanks, Jack _______________________________________________ Jack, first of all you will get much more info on MGAs from the MG list than the Healey or Spridget list. There is a guy there by the name of Barney Gaylord that has an excellent website about MGAs -- mgaguru.com. My Austin pickup has the 1622 motor in it and there is a 1622 cast on the lower part of the block on the right side. It is just above the right motor mount. Also, the correct original MGA displacements were 1489, 1588 and 1622cc. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 25 09:04:37 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:04:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Wheels Message-ID: <380-220071042515437812@earthlink.net> Jack Laird wrote: "Think I would dip that tire in a water tank and see where it is leaking and no steel rims did not use anything special they hold air." May I be so bold as to suggest the problem may lie with the minimum wage high school kid down at the gas station/tire shop that mounted the tires. Uh, and did he really put a new valve stem in as he was supposed to? I dunno, but I have *always* run my tires with an inner tube. Probably for the same reason I wear a belt *and* suspenders. (For you in England, "suspenders" over here are NOT a garter belt, they are "braces"!) Buster Evan From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 09:05:06 2007 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White Message-ID: <853655.56138.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> These are the numbers I have kept since mine was painted about nine years ago. It took some digging, but my painter was able to come up with the formula from one or all of these numbers. I hope these are of some help. WT3 RM BM 149 (1) RM BM 150 (2) DITZ 8177 DUP 8207 PPG 8177 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Oct 25 09:29:30 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:29:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White In-Reply-To: <853655.56138.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <853655.56138.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <68vr7k$1lqsq6@email.mtu.edu> Thanks to all who responded with color codes and options. I did find a few scraps of the original panels that were cut out and replaced during the rebuild so I do have some original paint color - very oxidized, but I think I have a few square inches of usable material. Some judicious wet sanding will help. So, with codes and original color samples I should be able to get very close. The paint shop owner just left after looking at the car so he can prepare a fine tuned estimate. Thanks! At 11:05 AM 10/25/2007, Doug Altman wrote: >These are the numbers I have kept since mine was painted about nine >years ago. It took some digging, but my painter was able to come up >with the formula from one or all of these numbers. I hope these are >of some help. > WT3 > RM BM 149 (1) > RM BM 150 (2) > DITZ 8177 > DUP 8207 > PPG 8177 Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 12:27:31 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] depressed - NLBC Message-ID: <173369.55754.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was feeling a bit depressed the other day, so I called the Depression Help Hotline but I was put through to a ' Call Center ' in Pakistan . I explained that I was feeling suicidal. They were very excited at this news and wanted to know if I could drive a truck or fly an airplane....lol Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 12:48:48 2007 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:48:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! Message-ID: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Timothy Collins - I was fine with helping you out with the color for your Bugeye until I remembered you live in Midland. There is room for only one Old English White Bugeye in the tri-city area! You'll have to paint it red, or green, or blue, or yellow, or something other than white! :-) In reality, Timothy, I live in the Freeland area and just wanted to give you my phone number if you are interested. I would love to come see your project and would be willing to give you any help, physical or otherwise, you may need in completing it. Doug Altman 989-684-9826 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dmg at bossig.com Thu Oct 25 13:23:09 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:23:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47208AAD.9609.111D89D@dmg.bossig.com> At one time I had an OEW 1960 Jag MK IX... I seem to remember that, if you search the site www.jag-lovers.com web site, you will probably fing references to the appropriate paint codes... This is assuming(?) that OEW is the same no matter if it's a Jag or a Spridget... Hope this helps - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 25 14:51:46 2007 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <505144.44611.qm@web36405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Doug's car is smashing. He won at this year's Battle of the Brits! R Doug Altman wrote: Timothy Collins - I was fine with helping you out with the color for your Bugeye until I remembered you live in Midland. There is room for only one Old English White Bugeye in the tri-city area! You'll have to paint it red, or green, or blue, or yellow, or something other than white! :-) In reality, Timothy, I live in the Freeland area and just wanted to give you my phone number if you are interested. I would love to come see your project and would be willing to give you any help, physical or otherwise, you may need in completing it. Doug Altman 989-684-9826 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Roger Cotting Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 25 17:16:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:16:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! Message-ID: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> Dave G. wrote: "This is assuming(?) that OEW is the same no matter if it's a Jag or a Spridget..." Alas, I fear every paint company's formula for a generic name, whether Old English White, Blood Red, or Royal Windsor Blue is different. Maybe just slightly, but different. Within a year and a half of the purchase of my Sprite, my brother crunched the right front fender. I hammered and bondo'd it back the best I could, and tried several "Old English White" paints. None matched. For over 40 years, I never let my brother forget it, so he was very willing to bring his truck and race trailer to take the Sprite to MAACO! On the condition that I not mention it again. I agreed. I lied. Buste From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Oct 25 17:21:56 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <13860a348a8a30cf0a17d48a.20071025162156.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Buster, I had to laugh. It's the same with me and my two brothers. We are constanly blaming and complaining about stuff that happened 40 years ago when we lived together. It's the stuff that binds us together. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Robert Bruce Evans > Dave G. wrote: "This is assuming(?) that OEW is the same no matter if > it's a Jag or a Spridget..." > > Alas, I fear every paint company's formula for a generic name, whether Old > English White, Blood Red, or Royal Windsor Blue is different. Maybe just > slightly, but different. Within a year and a half of the purchase of my > Sprite, my brother crunched the right front fender. I hammered and > bondo'd > it back the best I could, and tried several "Old English White" paints. > None matched. For over 40 years, I never let my brother forget it, so he > was very willing to bring his truck and race trailer to take the Sprite to > MAACO! On the condition that I not mention it again. I agreed. I lied. > > Buste > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Oct 25 18:34:45 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:34:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. In-Reply-To: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888D7@glitas07.garverinc.local> References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888D7@glitas07.garverinc.local> Message-ID: <47213625.4000401@wi.net> Jack, Larry is correct (of course) and FWIW, at the rear of the valve cover on the head a raised, cast-in number denoting displacement should be evident. 15 for 1489, 16 for 1588, I'm not sure what the 1622 head has; Barney?? If it has an18 then someone put on an MGB head. The head that came with mine had nothing on it which I was told meant that it was for a Nash Metropolitan. That was never verified. By all means go to Barney's web site. Regards, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Brashear, Jack, N wrote: > Hey Listers, my office pal has a '57 thru '62 composite MGA. He knows > it's a "1600" engine, but how can he I.D. if it's a 1598 or a 1622 ?? > Please help if you can. There's just gotta be some MGA owners out > there. Many Thanks, > > Jack > > > Jack, first of all you will get much more info on MGAs from the MG list than > the Healey or Spridget list. There is a guy there by the name of Barney > Gaylord that has an excellent website about MGAs -- mgaguru.com. > > My Austin pickup has the 1622 motor in it and there is a 1622 cast on the > lower part of the block on the right side. It is just above the right motor > mount. > > Also, the correct original MGA displacements were 1489, 1588 and 1622cc. > > > Larry Daniels > > 79 MGB LE > 60 Bugeye > 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Oct 25 19:18:44 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:18:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! References: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <012a01c8176e$27aa4210$0301a8c0@midget> > Alas, I fear every paint company's formula for a generic name, whether Old > English White, Blood Red, or Royal Windsor Blue is different. Maybe just > slightly, but different. Wow, you didn't mention "British Racing Green"! I am so proud of you... On the other hand, have you ever looked at a can of GM paint? My brother once bought a brand-new 1972 Pontiac Lemans. It was white. When he needed some paint for it, he went to all the trouble of getting the "correct" paint. He showed me the can... depending on which model of GM vehicle you had, that self-same can contained Polar White, Ice White, Arctic White, and Snow White. Likewise, the 1968 Delta 88 (with Rocket 455) that my Dad crunched and had to fix was an awful light metallic green. The can contained Willow Green, Leaf Green, and at least two other names for a color that you and I would have simply called "unsellable green". David Lieb From nases at verizon.net Thu Oct 25 19:34:20 2007 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <012a01c8176e$27aa4210$0301a8c0@midget> References: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> <012a01c8176e$27aa4210$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <002d01c81770$559bd0b0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> I agree with the unsellable green comment. A friend had a leaf green E type that he had for sale for some time even though the car was very nice. Myself, I always liked the color on Sprites and Jags. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa = Wow, you didn't mention "British Racing Green"! I am so proud of you... On the other hand, have you ever looked at a can of GM paint? My brother once bought a brand-new 1972 Pontiac Lemans. It was white. When he needed some paint for it, he went to all the trouble of getting the "correct" paint. He showed me the can... depending on which model of GM vehicle you had, that self-same can contained Polar White, Ice White, Arctic White, and Snow White. Likewise, the 1968 Delta 88 (with Rocket 455) that my Dad crunched and had to fix was an awful light metallic green. The can contained Willow Green, Leaf Green, and at least two other names for a color that you and I would have simply called "unsellable green". David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Oct 25 19:48:10 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:48:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <002d01c81770$559bd0b0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: I don't believe there are correct formulas for British colours because they varied from week to week and batch to batch. Just paint it off-white. From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 19:48:04 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:48:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! References: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net> <012a01c8176e$27aa4210$0301a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <021001c81772$40401030$6601a8c0@actualshop> <<...Snow White.>> Huuum, YOUR brother, Dave, and the above??? Bit odd!! From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 19:51:32 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:51:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! References: <380-2200710425231650843@earthlink.net><012a01c8176e$27aa4210$0301a8c0@midget> <002d01c81770$559bd0b0$2f01a8c0@na.sjcount.com> Message-ID: <021601c81772$bd052240$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Widow about 2 blocks from me and just two years ago had the deceased Coupe and ad ran in Fri's Chi Tribune and was SOLD prior to 8 AM Sat!!! Leaf Green can't be all that bad!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 25 20:02:27 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:02:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. References: <2D0989D186D44349BE853EE6CFC87AE6036888D7@glitas07.garverinc.local> <47213625.4000401@wi.net> Message-ID: <008601c81774$434798f0$6401a8c0@Larry> Dave, IIRC, the 1489 and 1588 both used the exact same head, as you pointed out for the 1489 -- the 15 head. It was the 1622 that used the new, improved 16 head with the bigger valves. I think (hope) I'm right on that. I think the Metropolitan came with the 1500 (1489) motor, so I don't know what the difference in the head might be -- unless it is a bit de-tuned for the Metro over the MGA? Another Barney question. Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Barney Gaylord" ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. Jack, Larry is correct (of course) and FWIW, at the rear of the valve cover on the head a raised, cast-in number denoting displacement should be evident. 15 for 1489, 16 for 1588, I'm not sure what the 1622 head has; Barney?? If it has an18 then someone put on an MGB head. The head that came with mine had nothing on it which I was told meant that it was for a Nash Metropolitan. That was never verified. By all means go to Barney's web site. Regards, Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI Brashear, Jack, N wrote: > Hey Listers, my office pal has a '57 thru '62 composite MGA. He knows > it's a "1600" engine, but how can he I.D. if it's a 1598 or a 1622 ?? > Please help if you can. There's just gotta be some MGA owners out > there. Many Thanks, > > Jack > > > Jack, first of all you will get much more info on MGAs from the MG list > than > the Healey or Spridget list. There is a guy there by the name of Barney > Gaylord that has an excellent website about MGAs -- mgaguru.com. > > My Austin pickup has the 1622 motor in it and there is a 1622 cast on the > lower part of the block on the right side. It is just above the right > motor > mount. > > Also, the correct original MGA displacements were 1489, 1588 and 1622cc. > > > Larry Daniels > > 79 MGB LE > 60 Bugeye > 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Oct 25 21:59:42 2007 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:59:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Driveshaft yoke In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01ad01c81784$a3c9ea60$eb5dbf20$@com> I've got one, I recently up graded to a Paul Asgeirsson / Morris Garage Five speed. If I can locate it, it's yours minus shipping. Patrick Elliott www.SyilAmerica.com 541 297 0004 -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+pelliott=innercite.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Hal Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:57 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Need Driveshaft yoke Help, anyone out there got a front yoke for a late 1275 driveshaft, the one that goes into the transmission? How much do you want for it? Hal No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1092 - Release Date: 10/25/2007 1:14 PM From b-evans at earthlink.net Thu Oct 25 22:45:54 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:45:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Colors--BRG...British Racing Green Message-ID: <380-220071052644554781@earthlink.net> David Lieb wrote: "Wow, you didn't mention "British Racing Green"! I am so proud of you..." BRG. British Racing Green. Once upon a time, a long time ago, it was the most hallowed and beloved color...err, colour...among those who revered the English cars. How many here can remember furor when in 1963, Jim Clark stormed the Indianapolis 500 in the British Racing Green livery of Team Lotus? Colin Chapman's Team Lotus sported what was and continues to be known at BRG, for in the European racing tradition of earlier days, cars wore their national colours (e.g. Red for Italy, therefore Ferrari). England's national color was green. The myth, the legend, the fear at Indianapolis had always been that green was an unlucky color; unlucky not only for the car and driver who sported it, but everyone else in the race. In 1963, many veteran Indy drivers were seriously angered that this pipsqueak little Scot would tempt *their* fate with his green car. Some drivers threatened to pull out of the race, and pressure was put on Tony Hulman and USAC to prohibit Clark from racing in green car. Fortunately, neither Chapman nor Hulman caved in, and Clark raced his BRG Lotus (I think it was a 25), coming in at incredible second. Incredible because no American thought it possible. The next year he was doing even better, leading until his suspension crapped out in the first 100 laps. Then, in 1965, he did the impossible. He won the 500 in a Lotus 31, although he was driving a green car, and a *mid-engined" one, to boot! Mid-engine? Americans believed it an idiot's design. Before the race, I can remember getting in arguments with race drivers here in California who believed it was a fool's pursuit! Nor did they believe that the dominant Offenhauser engines could ever lose a race! What a glorious day it was for those of us who had already been converted to the English sports cars. Can anyone else remember going to races or other sports car events where "Jim Clark for President" signs were sprouting up everywhere?!?! In what must rank as one of the greatest losses in motor racing, Clack died less than three years later, at 32, when instead of running at Brands Hatch, he was required to drive at Hockenheimring instead. Early in the race, a tire went flat, sending him off the track and into trees, killing him instantly. Why did he have to give up Brands Hatch and go to Germany? Because of sponsor obligations for, of all companies, *Firestone*. Without question, Jim Clark was one of the greatest drivers of *any* generation! (Clark, of course, was not the first driver of British cars to come to Indianapolis, nor the first that *some* would like to believe drove a green car. In 1961, Jack Brabham brought a Cooper-Coventry Climax to Indy; a car that some claim was green, but most agree was a very dark blue that, depending upon the light, could appear to be either very dark green or black.) Buster Evans From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 04:27:27 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:27:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710241711m517901fcgd32aa09f7209b695@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430710241646v7dcfbdaen21a165beacb35cda@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710241711m517901fcgd32aa09f7209b695@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430710260327p4db3bc6ex3e4777985fd12fa5@mail.gmail.com> Yes Derf I should but that would cost more than the car is worth. I'll try this valve body first. Sounds really weird but as the 1st owner of this 94 SW2 I still love the car and do not want to put her out to pasture yet. I can do everything I want with it lug air compressors & welding units with ease. I can also sleep in it when it rains hard while camping. And those plastic body panels are great I have zero dents. I am nearing 200K and a second motor I'm hoping for 300K : ) I am foolish enough to invest a lot more cash on that trans but I would rather a high performance trans are they available for that ca? Thanks, Lin 94 Saturn SW2 (favorite car sorry Pinky) 62 California Sprite Pinky (2nd favorite car) www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner On 10/24/07, derf wrote: > > The "shift kit" is more for performance upgrades for hot rodding. I > don't know if hot rodding and Saturn go together, though. Sounds like > you need a reference to a good auto trans shop. > Cheers, > Derf From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 04:30:02 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:30:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] where can I find Practical Classics Magazine in NJ? Message-ID: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> List, I have already checked the Barnes & Nobel & Borders in my area of NJ but no luck in finding Practical Classics Magazine in NJ? Any ideas? Lin From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 04:37:53 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:37:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but transmission valve body question In-Reply-To: <205cef430710260327p4db3bc6ex3e4777985fd12fa5@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710240321w36a11bdeh2d74913d586bf9ff@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710240733t360c8146h56508e816ea6508b@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430710241646v7dcfbdaen21a165beacb35cda@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710241711m517901fcgd32aa09f7209b695@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430710260327p4db3bc6ex3e4777985fd12fa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710260337y49d068a4j5cf4b516ccde65e3@mail.gmail.com> I don't think there are any hi performance shift kits for Saturns. It is a supply/demand thing. Plus, a shift kit is one of those "upgrades" that improve performance but take away from longevity and mileage. Just make sure you use a good trans shop and you should be fine. Cheers, Derf On 10/26/07, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Yes Derf I should but that would cost more than the car is worth. I'll try > this valve body first. Sounds really weird but as the 1st owner of this 94 > SW2 I still love the car and do not want to put her out to pasture yet. I > can do everything I want with it lug air compressors & welding units with > ease. I can also sleep in it when it rains hard while camping. And those > plastic body panels are great I have zero dents. I am nearing 200K and a > second motor I'm hoping for 300K : ) I am foolish enough to invest a lot > more cash on that trans but I would rather a high performance trans are they > available for that ca? > Thanks, > Lin > > 94 Saturn SW2 (favorite car sorry Pinky) > 62 California Sprite Pinky (2nd favorite car) > www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner > > > > On 10/24/07, derf wrote: > > The "shift kit" is more for performance upgrades for hot rodding. I > > don't know if hot rodding and Saturn go together, though. Sounds like > > you need a reference to a good auto trans shop. > > Cheers, > > Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 04:38:25 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:38:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] where can I find Practical Classics Magazine in NJ? In-Reply-To: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710260338l12475127s822dce9654ff7f31@mail.gmail.com> Go to Frank's house and take his. From bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com Fri Oct 26 05:14:03 2007 From: bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com (bushwacker4 at zoomtown.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 7:14:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA Engine block I.D. Message-ID: <27963758.1193397243370.JavaMail.root@wmvirt9> I think the Metropolitan came with the 1500 (1489) motor, so I don't know what the difference in the head might be -- unless it is a bit de-tuned for the Metro over the MGA? Another Barney question. The early Metros had a 1200 and the later ones had the 1500. All had only a single carb though. Kent 1960 Bugeye 1975 Midget - trailerparked queen From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri Oct 26 06:30:56 2007 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:30:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] '73 Innocenti Mini Message-ID: Friends, I wanted to alert my fellow LBC owners to the fact that I have just listed a '73 Innocenti Mini 1001 for sale in the Private Sellers listings on Mini Mania. If you or anyone you know may have interest in this car, please let me know. If you are a club member and could post this in your classifieds for me, and it sells as a result of that, I'll be happy to cut you in with a commission. Thanks, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. _Click here: Mini Cooper Parts and Acessories - Mini Mania_ (http://www.minimania.com/web/id/7489/Cars4Sale_Detail.cfm) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Oct 26 07:08:06 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:08:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC Colors Message-ID: <000c01c817d1$3fbcca40$1da1bf46@personal> For specific colors and codes http://www.coloramic.com/articles/hlyclrs.htm For the whole story try www.coloramic.com From mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com Fri Oct 26 08:05:33 2007 From: mail4carpenters at peoplepc.com (Mike/Donna Carpenter) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] '59 Bugeye - New Jersey Message-ID: <15890857.1193407533643.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I have been looking to pick up another Bugeye for the last few months. The deal on the '58 orange (copper) one in California fell through as the seller didn't actually own the Bugeye and the actual owner is dead etc. Actually, I am wondering if anyone in the New Joisey area (Frank are ya listening?) knows of the OEW '59 that is currently being auctioned on ebay. It looks like what I am after. If anyone has any info on that specific Bugeye, please let me know what you know or think. Thanks everyone for your help! Cheers, Mike C ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com From dmg at bossig.com Fri Oct 26 08:55:16 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:55:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Colors--BRG...British Racing Green In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0710252328n6cddc6abwc6eaec57886547bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <380-220071052644554781@earthlink.net>, <43840a7e0710252328n6cddc6abwc6eaec57886547bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47219D64.7962.2317B4@dmg.bossig.com> >From 1953 onwards I was a dedicated Brands Hatch "groupie" If there was racing of any kind, I was there. Standing on the grass on a slightly misty, crisp Saturday morning was the nearest I ever got to Heaven !! CRystal Palace came second! Back then it was "for Love of the Sport" Dave G. On 26 Oct 2007 at 1:28, Jim Johnson wrote: >> What a difference today as we see people like Raikkonen and >> Alonso with multi-million dollar contracts! I bet Fangio and Hawthorne >> are rolling in their graves!! - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 11:04:36 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:04:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] have you seen... References: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0c0401c817f2$4a535980$6601a8c0@actualshop> The pics on this e-bay ad?? Really neat!! http://tinyurl.com/2mg4gd From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 11:06:41 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:06:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye luggage rack. qUICK! Message-ID: <96005982-3B8C-4DDD-841E-2B143AEAD348@comcast.net> Ok, I'm here at the chrome shop and they have a spare luggage rack. Not sure if its for a Bugeye tho' Measurements are 17 x 30 , 4 slats. Is it the right one?! Lester Minimal typing from the iPhone From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 26 11:10:59 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:10:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] have you seen... References: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> <0c0401c817f2$4a535980$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <017701c817f3$2edcc050$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > The pics on this e-bay ad?? Really neat!! Especially the Mini drivetrtain and the chrome bootlid arrow ;-) Gotta wonder what is under the skin of the gold one, too. Now you KNOW I can't not pull your chain, even if you are right about the pictures. From type79 at ix.netcom.com Fri Oct 26 11:23:38 2007 From: type79 at ix.netcom.com (type79 at ix.netcom.com) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] have you seen... Message-ID: <10090499.1193419418903.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Very cool, but potentially very dangerous as it contains a picture of a chrome Sprite arrow which it was claimed that the last discussion of which crashed all of the Auto-X servers. Tread carefully with this stuff. jay fishbein wallingford, ct -----Original Message----- >From: 63AHBJ7 <63AHBJ7 at comcast.net> >Sent: Oct 26, 2007 1:04 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: [Spridgets] have you seen... > >The pics on this e-bay ad?? Really neat!! > >http://tinyurl.com/2mg4gd From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 13:34:36 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:34:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Colors--BRG and the wee Scot Message-ID: <380-2200710526193436484@earthlink.net> Mel Marks wrote: "If my memory is right, the last laps of the 63 Indy race were run under yellow due to the track cetting oily. But more likely to keep Clark from winning." You know, I had completely forgotten that, as well as the cause of the oil, *and* the aftermath! The worst of it was that the oil on the track was being spewed out right ahead of Clark by Parnelli Jones who was leading. In any other race, with an American running second, Jones would have been black flagged out of the race. But with the ever-popular American Jones in the lead, and the upstart wee Scot running a tight second, the officials refused to black flag Jones. I can't remember if it was in Victory Lane or the next night at the awards dinner that Eddie Sachs belted Jones in the snot locker, accusing him of a gaining a tarnished victory, and that Clark should have won! (The next year, in what was to me the worst of all Indy accidents, the even more-popular Sachs burned to death in his car on the main straight when it slammed into another in the midst of a seven or eight car pile-up. All of this in full view of the Pagoda and the main grandstands. Many of us wept!) Ironically, Clark also actually won the 1966 Indy in a confused finish that saw him show up in Victory Lane expecting to take the winners trophy. He was, however, minutes behind Graham Hill, who reportedly told Clark off cheekily, "Sorry, mate, I already drank the milk!" In looking back at perhaps the most confused ending of any Indy running, most now agree that Clark was the legitimate winner, but Hill got both the milk and the trophy! Buster Evans From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Oct 26 13:42:07 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:42:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fun Message-ID: <001201c81808$4c71f1c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Smashing! As the Brits would say! http://tinyurl.com/ypk8cv Pa From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 26 13:59:34 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:59:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fun References: <001201c81808$4c71f1c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <01b101c8180a$bcb27250$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Smashing! As the Brits would say! That looked even more expensive than the Volvo /monster truck ad... From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 14:01:35 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:01:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fun Message-ID: <380-220071052620135578@earthlink.net> Paul Asgeirsson: http://tinyurl.com/ypk8cv Proving yet again that Parisian drivers drive like Parisian drivers no matter in what vast expanse of nothingness they may find themselves! (And why the rest of France hates Parisians!) Buste From John.Deikis at va.gov Fri Oct 26 15:22:51 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:22:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! In-Reply-To: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <73105.94806.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Pick up some beer and chips, and you can get me and Rick Fisk to come over too. JohnD Chelsea, MI Home of Jiffy Mix! -----Original Message----- From: Doug Altman [mailto:doug_altman at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Whoa, Timothy! Timothy Collins - I was fine with helping you out with the color for your Bugeye until I remembered you live in Midland. There is room for only one Old English White Bugeye in the tri-city area! You'll have to paint it red, or green, or blue, or yellow, or something other than white! :-) In reality, Timothy, I live in the Freeland area and just wanted to give you my phone number if you are interested. I would love to come see your project and would be willing to give you any help, physical or otherwise, you may need in completing it. Doug Altman 989-684-9826 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 16:50:59 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Colors--BRG and the wee Scot Message-ID: <380-2200710526225059515@earthlink.net> sprigeteer wrote: "A bit of unban legend, some of that." And just WHAT, pray tell is "legend". And your evidence for saying it? For the record, Jones had been spewing oil for lap after lap, and the officials were endangering drivers by refusing to black flag him. I think that you will find that Colin Chapman had legitimately raised the issue of WHY Jones was not being black flagged and removed from the track. This raised the Armenian ire of Agajanian, already one of the richest and most powerful men in American racing, and who ruled racing in California with an iron fist. Not accustommed to being defied, Agajanian kept arguing with the officials, but most certainly NOT that the car was no longer spewing oil, but whether it was bad enough to black flag him! So instead of exercising their independent judgment to make it a safe race, and abdicating their responsibilities by allowing it to become a debate, they let Agajanian continue to argue until Jones' oil level finally dropped so low that it stopped leaking. The fact remains, he was leaking it, and leaking it badly enough to warrant black flagging! "After the race Clark was quoted: 'Parnelli Jones drove a great race. I would have been sorry to see him black-flagged'." That's a new one on me. However, I will say that it is completely in keeping with Clark's gentlemanly demeanor at all times. "Sachs did punch Jones, but not on behalf of Clark." No, I never said that he did. But neither did Sachs say it was because he had spun in Sach's oil! His words were definitely to the effect that Jones should not have been allowed to win the way he did. "If you've never heard Sid Collins' eulogy of Eddie Sachs, which he delivered spontaneously during the red flag that day, find it somewhere and give a listen, but beware, if you're a race fan, it'll bring tears to your eyes. " Surely, no one who heard Collins that day as I did could not have shed more than a few tears. Collins was the consumate race announcer, and he lived and breathed the Indy and all of those who raced init. He became a legend, himself. I also remember how, sometime in the mid-70's, I was startled to tune in, and for the first time, I did not hear him on the air. It was a long time before I learned that he had committed suicide days after being diagnosed with ALS...Lou Gehrig's Disease. Buster Evans From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 17:46:49 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:46:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes Message-ID: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> Today I stopped by the auto body supply with a 1967 Sprite door in hand to see if they could match the green paint that was original on the inside of the door. But the paint was a bit hammered and the scanner didn't do much. So they looked up 1967 Sprite which came up 1967 BMC and the code translated to a green used up until 1983 on Rovers and Jaguars. BUT that BRG wasn't even close to my door, it was more of a Larry Macy 1500 Midget green which I am sure is "BRG". No matter what, everything kept coming up the same code and it was NOT close to my door color. So this may explain why the people in the primrose yellow bugeye saw my yellow bugeye and said WOW! You have the correct color!! There's was sort of soylent green. But they did all the research and had the paint code mixed to get a semi kawasaki greenish yellow Bugeye. I looked on the chart and picked 1972 Ford LTD yellow. It was close to what I wanted. So I also picked a color that was a dead match to my door, it is a fleet color and that chip is nothing like the "correct code chip" . So I think the major paint manufacturers sort of superceeded their color chips and charts. So watch what you ask for, look in the fleet chip books and pick what is the color YOU want, not what shows up on the computer or in the BMC book. I did not order my paint because I want to look at the paint chip in sunlight and match it against my door. It has been raining for about a week now, no sun. I am glad I did not order the paint by code and come back later to have 6 qts of the wrong color. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 17:51:46 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:51:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes Message-ID: <380-2200710526235146156@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "I am glad I did not order the paint by code and come back later to have 6 qts of the wrong color." Or worse, applied to your car From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 26 19:04:32 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Colors--BRG and the wee Scot In-Reply-To: <380-2200710526193436484@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6923.30721.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > (The next year, in what > was to me the worst of all Indy accidents, the even > more-popular Sachs burned to death in his car on the > main straight when it slammed into another in the > midst of a seven or eight car pile-up. All of this > in full view of the Pagoda and the main grandstands. > Many of us wept!) The other driver was Dave McDonald, happened right in front of me. > > Ironically, Clark also actually won the 1966 Indy in > a confused finish that saw him show up in Victory > Lane expecting to take the winners trophy. He was, > however, minutes behind Graham Hill, who reportedly > told Clark off cheekily, "Sorry, mate, I already > drank the milk!" In looking back at perhaps the > most confused ending of any Indy running, most now > agree that Clark was the legitimate winner, but Hill > got both the milk and the trophy! > This was the year that Clark looped the Lotus a full 360 coming out of turn 4 and kept on going never missing a beat.... Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 19:08:57 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:08:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Colors--BRG and the wee Scot References: <380-2200710526225059515@earthlink.net> <019401c81834$d8671760$48a50644@internetpc> Message-ID: <04c401c81835$f42bbea0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <<...can't remember what I had for breakfast!>> er Bob, got a note from your "aide" that said you didn't have breakfast!!! Oh my!! How sad. Sorry!! From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 19:10:32 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:10:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Colors--BRG and the wee Scot Message-ID: <380-220071062711032921@earthlink.net> Bob Van Kirk wrote: "This was the year that Clark looped the Lotus a full 360 coming out of turn 4 and kept on going never missing a beat...." He was such a show-off From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 19:12:21 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:12:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <04d001c81836$6d42e3e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> er Frank, is that 12 pints?? Or 1.5 gallons?? Enquiring minds and all that???? From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 19:14:22 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:14:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <380-2200710526235146156@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <04dc01c81836$b75b8c70$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Why, Buster?? Frank would have back to bare metal in what, half hour??? From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Oct 26 19:29:57 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:29:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring rates? Message-ID: <1666662144.20071026182957@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, i have a spare set of rear springs. those ON the car a (a 1966) at present are "tired", but i like the way the car sits. well, maybe a touch low in the back, BUT having seen the factory sales book, they are SUPPOSED to sit lower in the rear. i've been to ABFM's and ALL the restored cars have spings that RAISE the rear end to the point that they have a forward rake! NOT COOL... so, the question, .. Bentley gives a working load of 375 lbs, with 4.437 inches of free camber. .. is this enough data to give to a spring shop to have them make by spare springs the correct "springiness", or is there other information that i need, and does anyone HAVE that info to share?.. this way i can get the springs (which i believe are from a later car with a higher spring rate than i want) done and have no real down time for the swap.... ... ... -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 19:46:42 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:46:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <04d001c81836$6d42e3e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> <04d001c81836$6d42e3e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <47229882.5060002@comcast.net> WJHS1960 wrote: > < 6 qts of the wrong color.>> > > er Frank, is that 12 pints?? Or 1.5 gallons?? > 1.5 GALLONS because when I paint, I paint it all, inside, underside, inside of the outer door skins, under bonnet, in the boot, and since it's a dark color, I will paint the whole car 2 or 3 coats then see what shows up in the body work, fix it and paint it again 6 or 7 coats. And I will always have some for touch ups. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 19:51:18 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring rates? In-Reply-To: <1666662144.20071026182957@pacifier.com> References: <1666662144.20071026182957@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <47229996.4010701@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > Bentley gives a working load of 375 lbs, with 4.437 inches of free > camber. .. is this enough data to give to a spring shop to have them > make by spare springs the correct "springiness", or is there other > information that i need, and does anyone HAVE that info to share?.. I used this same info from a book when I had a couple of sets of springs arced at a spring shop. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 26 19:57:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:57:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net><04d001c81836$6d42e3e0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <47229882.5060002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <017f01c8183c$b97bc5a0$0301a8c0@midget> Last time I checked, it really wasn't an either/or situation. 6 quarts used to be equal to 12 pints as well as to 1.5 gallons. Ale gallons, of course, not those heathen imperial gallon things. I guess that when our British friends quaff a pint, it is one eighth of an imperial gallon? From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 20:10:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:10:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel gauge/Sender issues Message-ID: <47229DFB.6000704@comcast.net> As you all know I am working on my 67 which was originally + grd. I am making it - grd but I just ran into a problem with my NOS gas gauge and my not quite correct 1500 gas tank and sender. It works BACKWARDS! The original 67 sender works fine, but it screws into the tank, but the tank was perfed. I have a 1500 tank, the sender is of the twist lock ring type, no screws. It works on a - grd gauge but those gauges have the valance which is not right on a 67. How do I rewire it to make it read "F" when the tank is full and not "E" when full? It works but full is empty and vise versa. Hey I already boiled out the 1500 tank and it's nice and purdy inside. And it's the only tank I have. I will not spend $189 for a chinese made gas tank. Chinese made and flammable liquid should never be together in the same place. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 20:24:19 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:24:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes Message-ID: <380-220071062722419312@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "1.5 GALLONS because when I paint, I paint it all, inside, underside, inside of the outer door skins, under bonnet, in the boot..." And it saves a helluva lot on masking tape From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 20:32:07 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:32:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <380-220071062722419312@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071062722419312@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4722A327.1080704@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Frank Clarici wrote: "1.5 GALLONS because when I paint, I paint it all, > inside, underside, inside of the outer door skins, under bonnet, in the > boot..." > > And it saves a helluva lot on masking tape Hell yeah, take every nut, bolt, wire, pipe and part off the car, paint it all. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 21:17:59 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:17:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <380-220071062722419312@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <085501c81847$fa57ecb0$6601a8c0@actualshop> er, Buster..... <> Did NOT know they have that stuff in NJ??? Are you SURE?? Besides, just CANNOT believe Frank would know what that stuff is anyway??? Are you REALLY sure about this??? Ed From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Fri Oct 26 21:33:13 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:33:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel gauge/Sender issues References: <47229DFB.6000704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00c301c8184a$1c46aee0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Just let it read backwards. Such fun, too!! With an unknowing passenger you can start off with a empty reading gauge and soon it starts to go towards full. Now you've got bragging rights that your car is so economical, it makes gas as you drive! It's even better than that 45 lb. cod you caught last weekend! On a fly rod, too! LOL Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel gauge/Sender issues > As you all know I am working on my 67 which was originally + grd. > I am making it - grd but I just ran into a problem with my NOS gas gauge > and my not quite correct 1500 gas tank and sender. > It works BACKWARDS! > The original 67 sender works fine, but it screws into the tank, but the > tank was perfed. I have a 1500 tank, the sender is of the twist lock > ring type, no screws. It works on a - grd gauge but those gauges have > the valance which is not right on a 67. > How do I rewire it to make it read "F" when the tank is full and not "E" > when full? It works but full is empty and vise versa. > Hey I already boiled out the 1500 tank and it's nice and purdy inside. > And it's the only tank I have. I will not spend $189 for a chinese made > gas tank. Chinese made and flammable liquid should never be together in > the same place. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Oct 26 21:36:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:36:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel gauge/Sender issues References: <47229DFB.6000704@comcast.net> <00c301c8184a$1c46aee0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <000b01c8184a$814e2d90$0401a8c0@midget> > Just let it read backwards. Such fun, too!! With an unknowing passenger > you can start off with a empty reading gauge and soon it starts to go > towards full. Now you've got bragging rights that your car is so > economical, it makes gas as you drive! > > It's even better than that 45 lb. cod you caught last weekend! On a fly > rod, too! It will fit right in with the Lucas smoke gauge... From b-evans at earthlink.net Fri Oct 26 22:32:08 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:32:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] An incredible source to fuel your car Message-ID: <380-22007106274328625@earthlink.net> An incredible new "miracle" source for fuel!!!! A true story that is a "must read"! http://tinyurl.com/3bocup Buster Evans From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 23:33:45 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710262233s7482765u432be20f5807ee7b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/26/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > I looked on the chart and picked 1972 Ford LTD yellow. It was close to > what I wanted. Frank, Hope you don't have yellow-green color blindness.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 07:36:41 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:36:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] where can I find Practical Classics Magazine in NJ? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710260338l12475127s822dce9654ff7f31@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430710260330x7edb13bavf5e73bebf6617b3a@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710260338l12475127s822dce9654ff7f31@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430710270636s5f5e2978u62c2fa12765b6154@mail.gmail.com> Ahahahahahahaha You kill me! Lin On 10/26/07, derf wrote: > > Go to Frank's house and take his. From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 07:39:45 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:39:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430710270639m2d9d23bal3b0eeac1b62e86d5@mail.gmail.com> Frank which shop will scan and sell paint? Lin On 10/26/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Today I stopped by the auto body supply with a 1967 Sprite door in hand > to see if they could match the green paint that was original on the > inside of the door. > But the paint was a bit hammered and the scanner didn't do much. > So they looked up 1967 Sprite which came up 1967 BMC and the code > translated to a green used up until 1983 on Rovers and Jaguars. > BUT that BRG wasn't even close to my door, it was more of a Larry Macy > 1500 Midget green which I am sure is "BRG". > No matter what, everything kept coming up the same code and it was NOT > close to my door color. > So this may explain why the people in the primrose yellow bugeye saw my > yellow bugeye and said WOW! You have the correct color!! There's was > sort of soylent green. But they did all the research and had the paint > code mixed to get a semi kawasaki greenish yellow Bugeye. > I looked on the chart and picked 1972 Ford LTD yellow. It was close to > what I wanted. > So I also picked a color that was a dead match to my door, it is a fleet > color and that chip is nothing like the "correct code chip" . > So I think the major paint manufacturers sort of superceeded their color > chips and charts. > So watch what you ask for, look in the fleet chip books and pick what is > the color YOU want, not what shows up on the computer or in the BMC book. > I did not order my paint because I want to look at the paint chip in > sunlight and match it against my door. It has been raining for about a > week now, no sun. > I am glad I did not order the paint by code and come back later to have > 6 qts of the wrong color. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 08:29:49 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:29:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <205cef430710270639m2d9d23bal3b0eeac1b62e86d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <973454.35910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Frank which shop will scan and sell paint? > Lin Linda, Around here (in the relative boonies of IL) the shops all do. They have a special hooded camera that takes an image they download to a computer that spits out the necessary mixture. The body touch-up can I got was 99.9% perfect match, the engine paint was spot-on (but it's easier to just call Paul A. for that). Ron Listening to the sweet sound of the walls of the garage extension being poured as I type Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 27 08:31:45 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:31:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <973454.35910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <022601c818a6$1a47a5c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" Ron Listening to the sweet sound of the walls of the garage extension being poured as I type ================= Ron, anything special planned for that expansion? Like a lift or anything? How big? Larry From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 08:40:48 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:40:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <973454.35910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <022601c818a6$1a47a5c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <002301c818a7$5dced420$0401a8c0@midget> > Ron, anything special planned for that expansion? Like a lift or > anything? > How big? Another Alfa? From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 09:36:23 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <022601c818a6$1a47a5c0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <513324.79107.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron, anything special planned for that expansion? > Like a lift or anything? > How big? For the foreseeable future, "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH". Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 09:40:27 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:40:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Funny Ebay Title, Miata content. No LBC. Activate Delete Sequence or else. Message-ID: <5f00d9910710270840o4553d9edva70b50bd5b926c22@mail.gmail.com> This is an actual title from an ebay auction. I found this funny. Maybe I'm just not fully awake, yet. I just pictured Indians with fires and blankets attached to the car: "90-97 MAZDA MIATA MX5 SMOKE SIGNAL BUMPER LIGHTS 95 96" From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 09:43:25 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:43:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <513324.79107.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004901c818b0$1d7162e0$0401a8c0@midget> > For the foreseeable future, "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH". Good thing the racing season is pretty much over... Time to re-charge! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 27 09:54:19 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:54:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <513324.79107.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004901c818b0$1d7162e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <026601c818b1$a2d56070$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes > For the foreseeable future, "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH". Good thing the racing season is pretty much over... Time to re-charge! _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1095 - Release Date: 10/26/2007 7:54 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 27 09:55:23 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:55:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <513324.79107.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004901c818b0$1d7162e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <026b01c818b1$c9524830$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes > For the foreseeable future, "DRIVER CARRIES NO CASH". Good thing the racing season is pretty much over... Time to re-charge! _______________________________________________ One of the guys I used to race with always said the only sponsor he had was his Master Card. LAD From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 10:27:00 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 11:27:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Eddie Sachs... Message-ID: <43840a7e0710270927l3d32c386u6b317186eb1e875c@mail.gmail.com> For those who are too young, or who want to relive the tragedy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ9RaX5rBgU -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 11:02:04 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy needed Message-ID: I sent of the dizzy to Jeff at Advanced Distributors to be rebuilt. As some of you may know, I am trying to get this particular engine back as close to original as possible. It appears that I don't have the proper casting for our car. Jeff doesn't have the correct one to trade out with me either. I would like to see if anyone out there would be willing to check their parts bins for a particular casting # for me. According to Jeff, I am needing a 41198 dizzy. This is stamped on the small rectangular boss, by the vacuum advance. If you have one, and you are willing to sell it, please let me know. It doesn't have to be perfect, as I will have it completely redone. Thank you, Brad -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 27 10:52:48 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:52:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes Message-ID: <380-2200710627165248972@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "Listening to the sweet sound of the walls of the garage extension being poured as I type..." MEMO TO SELF: Father I have sinned. Thou shalt no covet. Thou shalt not covet. Thou shalt not covet. And I will have you know, Mr. Soave, you are indeed a cheating swine. Going behind my back to call my wife feed her the latest details of the price reduction on the home of her dreams around the corner from you. (At <$400k, that is just more than half the asking price a year ago.) If it were not for the kids being here, I would be so sorely tempted. But you are so devious! Buster From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 11:04:28 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <026601c818b1$a2d56070$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <620.41060.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Good thing the racing season is pretty much over... > Time to re-charge! The extension is only adding 300 sq. ft, which will bring the total to just about 1000 sf (approx. 1/10th of Dream Farm shop/storage space!). The lift may come sooner, but probably later. The issue is, despite having an acre of land, I'm limited where I can put an outbuilding. And due to odd shapes, I can't add much on to the house where the garage is. Plus, I've got 6 different hipped roof lines, which makes doing anything that doesn't lookhideous difficult. The extension will be a nice finished race car shop area, and it necessiates some other stuff like losing a window on a bathroom that will be replaced by skylights, moving other doors and windows, etc. Roof, siding, etc...When all is said and done, the garage space will cost about as much to build as finished living space. Because of the slope of the property, the slab they poured is 5 feet deep at the back, not including the footing! Lots of work for 300 SF, but I need it! It'll have insulation, heat, water, power subpanel, and cable. Small but nice. Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Sat Oct 27 11:27:44 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:27:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <380-2200710627165248972@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <09db01c818be$afb27460$6601a8c0@actualshop> Buster: <> Seems QUITE obvious to me, and I'm sure a bunch others, that you & Pam NEED a "summer home" and Roscoe IS a nice area!!! Stirrer McCoy Mobtown, IL From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 11:33:12 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <380-2200710627165248972@earthlink.net> <09db01c818be$afb27460$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <006201c818bf$74a268c0$0401a8c0@midget> > Seems QUITE obvious to me, and I'm sure a bunch others, that you & Pam > NEED a "summer home" and Roscoe IS a nice area!!! I can't wait to start the annual tradition of waving at Buster and Pat as they drive through Chicago in a fully-loaded Bugeye on their way to and from their summer home in Roscoe! From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Oct 27 13:35:11 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:35:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gauge compatibility questions In-Reply-To: <000c01c817d1$3fbcca40$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <200710271935.l9RJZ5cx024866@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Hi all- I'm going through a box of car parts that someone gave me, and I came across a tachometer (positive ground) made by Smith which says Cortina on the front. I also have a speedometer that sort of matches it but is the same size. The FoMoCo numbers also trace back to a '68 Cortina. Both are 4". Would these be usable spares, or is this just overflow parts from something else they had? Chris 66MKIII Milwaukee, WI From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 27 13:57:44 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lowered street project Message-ID: <000a01c818d3$a56fe900$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Lowered Street project, low miles. http://tinyurl.com/2bgoaa Pa From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 27 14:07:12 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:07:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lowered street project Message-ID: <380-220071062720712988@earthlink.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: "Lowered Street project, low miles. http://tinyurl.com/2bgoaa " But what will it do 0-60? Is it street legal? Will he race for pink slips? (Do people even race for pink slips, anymore? Does anyone else remember the broken hearts of the losers?) Buster Evan From dmg at bossig.com Sat Oct 27 14:35:40 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:35:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lowered street project In-Reply-To: <380-220071062720712988@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071062720712988@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47233EAC.6781.1417F67@dmg.bossig.com> One of my older boys used to... But he got PO'd by the lowered Honda's with the Fart Cans and barn doors (Wings!) on the rear cutting him up on the highway. He has this beat-up looking heap (a '69 Camaro). His Offer?? $200 against the Honda guy's Wing. What they don't know is that there's about 18G's in the motor, Nitrous, tricked out tranny, lock-up, LSD, etc., etc. I don't understand half of what he's done to it!!! But it really moves! He won't let me drive it since my triple-bypass ;-(( He originally built it for Bracket racing but after the incident with the Honda he wants to build a private collection of "Wings of Many Colors!" On 27 Oct 2007 at 13:07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> (Do people even race for pink slips, anymore? Does anyone else remember >> the broken hearts of the losers?) - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 14:49:03 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:49:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] gauge compatibility questions References: <200710271935.l9RJZ5cx024866@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <03a201c818da$cfd5eda0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Chris: Do a google for "Cortina Car Club" !! Use the " ". Bet they are worth something!! Ed From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 27 15:20:42 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:20:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lowered street project Message-ID: <380-220071062721204297@earthlink.net> Dave G. wrote: "He won't let me drive it since my triple-bypass ;-((" Smart boy! He learned well from his father when he was first learning to drive!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 27 18:37:47 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:37:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <620.41060.qm@web30514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <030701c818fa$c3c72cc0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes --- Larry Daniels wrote: > Good thing the racing season is pretty much over... > Time to re-charge! The extension is only adding 300 sq. ft, which will bring the total to just about 1000 sf (approx. 1/10th of Dream Farm shop/storage space!). The lift may come sooner, but probably later. The issue is, despite having an acre of land, I'm limited where I can put an outbuilding. And due to odd shapes, I can't add much on to the house where the garage is. Plus, I've got 6 different hipped roof lines, which makes doing anything that doesn't lookhideous difficult. The extension will be a nice finished race car shop area, and it necessiates some other stuff like losing a window on a bathroom that will be replaced by skylights, moving other doors and windows, etc. Roof, siding, etc...When all is said and done, the garage space will cost about as much to build as finished living space. Because of the slope of the property, the slab they poured is 5 feet deep at the back, not including the footing! Lots of work for 300 SF, but I need it! It'll have insulation, heat, water, power subpanel, and cable. Small but nice. Ron __________________________________________________ So you must be going mostly back rather than off to the right where the race trailer normally is kept? With all of that for Ron, I suspect Lynette is going to have a very merry Christmas. ;-)) Larry From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 27 18:53:34 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:53:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <380-2200710627165248972@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001601c818fc$f8dcbc20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Take the kids with ya! Do 'em a favor. Clean pure air to breath. Might be cold once in a while, but so what. Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bruce Evans" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes > Ron Soave wrote: "Listening to the sweet sound of the walls of the garage > extension being poured as I type..." > > MEMO TO SELF: > Father I have sinned. > Thou shalt no covet. Thou shalt not covet. Thou shalt not covet. > > And I will have you know, Mr. Soave, you are indeed a cheating swine. > Going behind my back to call my wife feed her the latest details of the > price reduction on the home of her dreams around the corner from you. (At > <$400k, that is just more than half the asking price a year ago.) If it > were not for the kids being here, I would be so sorely tempted. But you > are so devious! > > Buster > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 19:00:33 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:00:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <030701c818fa$c3c72cc0$6401a8c0@Larry> Message-ID: <835592.11414.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Larry Daniels wrote: > So you must be going mostly back rather than off to > the right where the race > trailer normally is kept? > Exactly - back 20 ft (back wall of 3rd bay being knocked down; it'll be 44' deep total), and going 3 feet wider from that point. It starts a foot behind the end of the pad where the trailer is parked. > With all of that for Ron, I suspect Lynette is going > to have a very merry > Christmas. ;-)) She begged me to do it! She's upset I'm saving doing a loft for next year. She doesn't get the cars but understands the need for work space! Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From denadave at ca.rr.com Sat Oct 27 19:01:01 2007 From: denadave at ca.rr.com (Dena & David Vrba) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:01:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check Message-ID: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> Hi Listers, Need help! Got a 5 speed (out of car and drained) locally but it won't shift or turn at all. I don't want to force anything with pliers and such. Don't want to boogger the splines. Do I need to get "surgical" with the unit to free it up? I have been told it has been outside for quite some time. I haven't bought it yet but it is local so I can visit it at will. Any hints as to how to free her up would be greatly appreciated. This is all I have done so far. Put shifter in place and can't get any movement into any gear from wherever it is now. Neither splined end will move with a good grip on it and trying to turn it. Thanks, David Vrba '62 Sprite MKII Corona, CA From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Oct 27 19:05:54 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:05:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check In-Reply-To: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> Message-ID: Let the rebuilder worry about freeing it up. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 19:15:39 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:15:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <835592.11414.qm@web30511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00a501c81900$0e1a05e0$0401a8c0@midget> > She begged me to do it! She's upset I'm saving doing a > loft for next year. She doesn't get the cars but > understands the need for work space! Maybe she wants a finished basement so you, too can haul lots of stuff to the curb after a big rain. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Oct 27 19:24:52 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <00a501c81900$0e1a05e0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <475893.67337.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- David Lieb wrote: > Maybe she wants a finished basement so you, too can > haul lots of stuff to the curb after a big rain. Typical gearhead - you didn't notice 75% of it IS finished. You just remember the part with the used race tires (I have a couple more for you) and LBC parts. Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 19:33:04 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:33:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes References: <475893.67337.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00af01c81902$7ca02c40$0401a8c0@midget> > Typical gearhead - you didn't notice 75% of it IS > finished. You just remember the part with the used > race tires (I have a couple more for you) and LBC > parts. As long as part of it houses car parts, it isn't "finished". Just ask her ;-) I did seem to recall some carpeting if one took a wrong turn down there, but I wasn't sure. David From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Oct 27 19:38:21 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:38:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics Message-ID: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> I stopped by my local Barnes & Noble Booksellers this afternoon to see if they had a copy. They looked it up and said that it wasn't one of the magazines that got allocated to them, but that one of the other branches might have one. I asked if he could check and he got this sad look on his face as he explained that it had gotten computerized; this meant that he could look it up quickly, but with no confidence whatsoever in the results. So, I wandered home, did a search of BN stores in the area and started calling. Fortunately, each store could easily check to see if they had received any and all were perfectly willing to put the phone down and traipse over to the rack to see if any were left. Found one at the third or fourth try. David From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 27 19:51:15 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:51:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check References: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> Message-ID: <006801c81905$07c2d8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Sounds like some rust might be involved. If you have an old Datsun clutch disc and the Datsun driveshaft, I wouldn't hesitate to do some pretty strong reefing on either end. You could also take off the rear housing to see if any water has been in there and frozen it, but if you don't get it into neutral, it's really hard to get off the rear case. On the other hand, why was this originally taken out of the car? Might have been done because it was a toasted gearbox. Just like the reason for nearly all ribcases coming out of the car. None of these are self repairing!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dena & David Vrba" To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check > Hi Listers, > Need help! Got a 5 speed (out of car and drained) locally but it won't shift > or turn at all. I don't want to force anything with pliers and such. Don't > want to boogger the splines. Do I need to get "surgical" with the unit to > free it up? I have been told it has been outside for quite some time. I > haven't bought it yet but it is local so I can visit it at will. Any hints as > to how to free her up would be greatly appreciated. > This is all I have done so far. > Put shifter in place and can't get any movement into any gear from wherever it > is now. > Neither splined end will move with a good grip on it and trying to turn it. > Thanks, > David Vrba > '62 Sprite MKII > Corona, CA From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 27 20:58:19 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:58:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check In-Reply-To: <006801c81905$07c2d8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> <006801c81905$07c2d8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <4723FACB.1050303@comcast.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Just like the reason for nearly > all ribcases coming out of the car. None of these are self repairing!! Oh man! Now you tell me. I thought all those dead ribcases in my garage would all self repair if I said my prayers, made wishes, and rubbed old oil lamps. Marret of fact, I know this genie.... -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Sat Oct 27 21:17:15 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:17:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check References: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> <006801c81905$07c2d8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <4723FACB.1050303@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00b201c81911$0b71b980$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Don't light any candles for that pile of ribcases, not likely worth the wax!! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" > I thought all those dead ribcases in my garage would all self repair if > I said my prayers, made wishes, and rubbed old oil lamps. > Marret of fact, I know this genie.... > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Oct 27 21:20:04 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:20:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check In-Reply-To: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> References: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710272020y33f2adb8g9e84e6596ffd7f04@mail.gmail.com> I have a 792kb pdf file with diagrams, assembly/disassembly instructions for the Datsun 5 speed. You want a copy? From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Oct 27 21:19:03 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:19:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check In-Reply-To: <00b201c81911$0b71b980$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> <006801c81905$07c2d8c0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <4723FACB.1050303@comcast.net> <00b201c81911$0b71b980$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <4723FFA7.1050000@comcast.net> Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Don't light any candles for that pile of ribcases, not likely worth the > wax!! Ah but the price of scrap aluminum these days makes em worth something ;) And besides, I have made one out of 3, but now I have 6 dead ones and not enough parts to make one good one. But the 67 came with 2 ribcases and 2 1098s, 1 of which I fired up today and it runs very well. I even ran it thru the gears while running on the garage floor, and each gear works but it's still not a real test of the tranny. I'll toss the 1098/rib in the 67 and drive it around the block before I get the front end on to check the tranny. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 27 22:09:50 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:09:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check Message-ID: <380-22007100284950203@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici "I thought all those dead ribcases in my garage would all self repair if I said my prayers, made wishes, and rubbed old oil lamps." Uh, have you gone to confession and said a few Hail Marys? (Oh, the priest has a limit of 8 hours per individual confession.) Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Oct 27 23:17:10 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:17:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Team Sprite Bugeye for Sale on Ebay Message-ID: <380-220071002851710156@earthlink.net> Brian wrote: Correct heater valve knob, correct color. The parts manual (AKD1575) shows a very different water control tap (ACA5455), which is as it was on my original Sprite (#26892). The parts book makes no mention of changes. Additionally, I still have the tap from my 1958 Sprite (#762), and it is also the same as #26892. Brian may have been misled by the red-painted tap show in Horler (p. 59), but that is in a HAN6. Gas cap was painted body color, as it should be. This has often been the subject of discussion, but there is simply no contemporary evidence that ANY Sprite came with a painted gas cap, Horlers assertion (p. 16) to the contrary. Yes, I remember that some people painted them to match the car, just as a girlfriend painted my hubcaps' AH with her red fingernail polish. Certainly, my #26892 came with a chrome gas cap. And when Frank and I visited the BMIHT headquarters in May, the chaps there told us they came with a chrome gas cap. Finally, all of the gas caps shown in Clausanger are chrome. "Sliding pane side curtains introduced #8283 (Dec. 58)" But the sliding side curtains were an option that was available ONLY with the hardtop which was made available after the Team Sprite car was built. Indeed, the hardtop sliding side curtains did not work well with a soft top, and continually allowed water in. The side curtain on the Team Sprite car was a later after-market version developed by the company, and can be identified by the rubber seal that extended over the door. Hopefully, Jay can add more regarding the originality issues. Buster Evans From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Oct 28 02:07:12 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:07:12 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Help with Datsun 5 speed check In-Reply-To: <017c01c818fe$02eb8b50$2502a8c0@vrbanewbox> Message-ID: <342852.59125.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> have you tried holding the transmission vertically.. and dropping it on each end from about 2 inches ...use a block of wood to drop it on ? Dena & David Vrba wrote: Hi Listers, Need help! Got a 5 speed (out of car and drained) locally but it won't shift or turn at all. I don't want to force anything with pliers and such. Don't want to boogger the splines. Do I need to get "surgical" with the unit to free it up? I have been told it has been outside for quite some time. I haven't bought it yet but it is local so I can visit it at will. Any hints as to how to free her up would be greatly appreciated. This is all I have done so far. Put shifter in place and can't get any movement into any gear from wherever it is now. Neither splined end will move with a good grip on it and trying to turn it. Thanks, David Vrba '62 Sprite MKII Corona, CA _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Oct 28 04:35:01 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:35:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BRG and modern paint codes In-Reply-To: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> References: <47227C69.8000101@comcast.net> Message-ID: No the color of my car is Brooklands Green. It has more of a yellowish tint to it than true BRG green. It was "created/mixed" to get away from the BRG controversy (as told to me bt Reg Kennedy). Larry On Oct 26, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Today I stopped by the auto body supply with a 1967 Sprite door in > hand > to see if they could match the green paint that was original on the > inside of the door. > But the paint was a bit hammered and the scanner didn't do much. > So they looked up 1967 Sprite which came up 1967 BMC and the code > translated to a green used up until 1983 on Rovers and Jaguars. > BUT that BRG wasn't even close to my door, it was more of a Larry Macy > 1500 Midget green which I am sure is "BRG". > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Oct 28 04:40:01 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:40:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel gauge/Sender issues In-Reply-To: <47229DFB.6000704@comcast.net> References: <47229DFB.6000704@comcast.net> Message-ID: Drive it around on E and amaze your friends!! Watch the tank fill as I drive. The gas companies will hate you!! Larry On Oct 26, 2007, at 10:10 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > As you all know I am working on my 67 which was originally + grd. > I am making it - grd but I just ran into a problem with my NOS gas > gauge > and my not quite correct 1500 gas tank and sender. > It works BACKWARDS! > The original 67 sender works fine, but it screws into the tank, but > the > tank was perfed. I have a 1500 tank, the sender is of the twist lock > ring type, no screws. It works on a - grd gauge but those gauges have > the valance which is not right on a 67. > How do I rewire it to make it read "F" when the tank is full and not > "E" > when full? It works but full is empty and vise versa. > Hey I already boiled out the 1500 tank and it's nice and purdy inside. > And it's the only tank I have. I will not spend $189 for a chinese > made > gas tank. Chinese made and flammable liquid should never be together > in > the same place. > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Oct 28 06:05:30 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:05:30 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Colors--BRG...British Racing Green Message-ID: I remember the BRG "event" though nowhere as well or in such detail as you, Buster. Hilarious, IMHO. I couldn't believe the furor over "green". Unreal! :) CapBob From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 28 06:32:23 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:32:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Colors--BRG...British Racing Green Message-ID: <380-2200710028133223562@earthlink.net> Robert E. Shlafer wrote: "I remember the BRG "event" though nowhere as well or in such detail as you, Buster. Hilarious, IMHO. I couldn't believe the furor over "green". Unreal! :). I suspect that I remember it so well because at the time I was so involved in sports car racing, and I believe I wrote either a column or a story about "the green" in world racing as opposed to American racing. These are the things that make things stick in your mind. Buster Evan From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Oct 28 06:47:45 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:47:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> References: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <47249301.2090209@wi.net> I found a copy at B&N in Greenfield (s. 76th St.) but the B&N in Brookfield didn't have any....Chris did you buy them all and scalp them??? ;-) Great article and well done gentlemen! Count me in for the next gathering. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI David Lieb wrote: > I stopped by my local Barnes & Noble Booksellers this afternoon to see if > they had a copy. They looked it up and said that it wasn't one of the > magazines that got allocated to them, but that one of the other branches > might have one. I asked if he could check and he got this sad look on his > face as he explained that it had gotten computerized; this meant that he > could look it up quickly, but with no confidence whatsoever in the results. > So, I wandered home, did a search of BN stores in the area and started > calling. Fortunately, each store could easily check to see if they had > received any and all were perfectly willing to put the phone down and > traipse over to the rack to see if any were left. Found one at the third or > fourth try. > David From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 28 06:42:45 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:42:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... RE: [midgetsprite] Re: Team Sprite Bugeye for Sale on Ebay Message-ID: <380-2200710028134245656@earthlink.net> Biff wrote: "My '62 is completely original ...including it's original rubber floor mats." And just WHAT is the address where it is parked at night? Buster From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 28 06:44:46 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:44:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics Message-ID: <380-2200710028134446515@earthlink.net> David Woerpel wrote: "Chris did you buy them all and scalp them??? ;-) Soon to be seen on eBay as he dreams of retirement cash From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Oct 28 07:11:04 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:11:04 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Bugeye Group..... Colors--BRG...British Racing Green Message-ID: "I remeber it so well...." Ah, no wonder.......I perceive kemosabe. :) CapBob From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Oct 28 07:19:47 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:19:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Team Sprite Bugeye for Sale on Ebay In-Reply-To: <380-220071002851710156@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071002851710156@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47249A83.4020508@wi.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Brian wrote: Correct heater valve knob, correct color. > > Gas cap was painted body color, as it should be. > > This has often been the subject of discussion, but there is simply no contemporary evidence that ANY Sprite came with a painted gas cap, Horlers assertion (p. 16) to the contrary. Yes, I remember that some people painted them to match the car, just as a girlfriend painted my hubcaps' AH with her red fingernail polish. Certainly, my #26892 came with a chrome gas cap. And when Frank and I visited the BMIHT headquarters in May, the chaps there told us they came with a chrome gas cap. Finally, all of the gas caps shown in Clausanger are chrome. > > "Sliding pane side curtains introduced #8283 (Dec. 58)" > > But the sliding side curtains were an option that was available ONLY with the hardtop which was made available after the Team Sprite car was built. Indeed, the hardtop sliding side curtains did not work well with a soft top, and continually allowed water in. The side curtain on the Team Sprite car was a later after-market version developed by the company, and can be identified by the rubber seal that extended over the door. > > Hopefully, Jay can add more regarding the originality issues. > > Buster Evans Not to start a week long thread here, but in redoing the Bugeye #17606 (1959), I went through 3 layers of paint before I got to the original Leaf Green. The bonnet hinges had remained green and behind the door and cockpit panels AND the under side of the gas cap which has the name /Westwood/ and the patent number. Can anyone verify that Westwood was the original "brand"? Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Oct 28 07:34:56 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:34:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <380-2200710028134446515@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200710281434.l9SEYnVi003982@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> I have not seen it yet...I was actually going to stop at one of those B&N today, since there isn't a Packer game and I'm sick of the yard and family since it was Teacher's Convention last week. I'm banking on my misc Cortina parts I asked about yesterday anyway...that is one homely looking car. I'm not sure how one found its way in my area. Must be from Canada. That makes them more rare and valuable, right? Chris 66MKIII -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Bruce Evans Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:45 AM To: David Woerpel Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics David Woerpel wrote: "Chris did you buy them all and scalp them??? ;-) Soon to be seen on eBay as he dreams of retirement cash From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Oct 28 07:48:08 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:48:08 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Colors--BRG...British Racing Green Message-ID: As Bob Gardner says....those were the good old days of racing. And they were....a LOT more "informal" and more fun for all I suspect? Today, like other sports, it's highly commercialized but certainly a lot more safe. And while I love my Frog and all the old Spridets and MG "A"' & "B"'s I've had the fun of owning/driving all my life, the cars of today, while more expensive, are tons more safe and efficient with minimal pollution to boot. I'd love to have front/side air bags in my Frog. Problem is today's sports cars don't make enough "noise" far as I'm concerned. I mean, what's a tinny "whoosh" compared to the throaty sound of an Abarth or ANSA?? One thing has however remained constant...the "loose nut" behind the wheel! :) CapBob From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Oct 28 08:25:38 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:25:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics WHere to get?? References: <200710281434.l9SEYnVi003982@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <00cb01c81976$cbbdd470$6501a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> I tried all the Barnes and Noble's here in our city as well as Borders. none keep practical classics. Lots of low rider, dirt, indy, sport etc car mags none what I want. So where can I order one of these from? If anyone sees an extra I would pay to have it shipped and cost of mag. Charlie OKC,OK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: ; "'David Woerpel'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics >I have not seen it yet...I was actually going to stop at one of those B&N > today, since there isn't a Packer game and I'm sick of the yard and family > since it was Teacher's Convention last week. > > I'm banking on my misc Cortina parts I asked about yesterday anyway...that > is one homely looking car. I'm not sure how one found its way in my area. > Must be from Canada. That makes them more rare and valuable, right? > > Chris > > 66MKIII > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Robert Bruce Evans > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:45 AM > To: David Woerpel > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics > > David Woerpel wrote: "Chris did you buy them all and scalp them??? ;-) > > Soon to be seen on eBay as he dreams of retirement cash > _______________________________________________ > shelden3 at pldi.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1887 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From shelden3 at pldi.net Sun Oct 28 08:26:32 2007 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie Shelden) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:26:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics...can't find it...where to order? Message-ID: <00d801c81976$ebe3f680$6501a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> I have tried all the Barnes and Noble's here in our city as well as Borders. none keep practical classics. Lots of low rider, dirt, indy, sport etc car mags none what I want. So where can I order one of these from? If anyone sees an extra I would pay to have it shipped and cost of mag. Charlie OKC,OK -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1887 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len From logical2 at hotmail.com Sun Oct 28 09:24:50 2007 From: logical2 at hotmail.com (Frank Edwards) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:24:50 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] engine+trans oil seals Message-ID: Hello to all; I am new to the list. I have been driving my 69 midget for the past 5 summers and it's due for a refresh. Does anyone have any experience with adding oil seals to the front of the transmission and/or the rear of the engine? The M*** cover for the transmission is a little too pricey and I see nothing in there about a rear seal for the engine. Thanks for your help.Frank R. Edwards570-784-4662logical2 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 28 09:42:07 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:42:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics References: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> <47249301.2090209@wi.net> Message-ID: <03ff01c81981$7b0638a0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics I found a copy at B&N in Greenfield (s. 76th St.) but the B&N in Brookfield didn't have any....Chris did you buy them all and scalp them??? ;-) Great article and well done gentlemen! Count me in for the next gathering. Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI ===================================== Dave, The next gathering will be SOS on the 23rd and 24th of November. So, are we going to see you there? Larry P.S. that Saturday, the 24th, is also my birthday, but I don't want you guys buying me any real expensive gifts -- like that Supercharger for the Bugeye that Moss has on sale. ;-)) From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Oct 28 11:29:07 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:29:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue Message-ID: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> Got a standard Lucas starter that more and more often does not engage the ring gear. Hit the key, and sometimes it starts to start then whirs. Sometimes hit the key and it just whirs; then I move the crank and it engages just fine. Sounds like there should be a big gap in the ring gear where teeth are broken. Just pulled the starter and looked. Some of the ring gear teeth are marginally shorter than others, but none are broken nor chipped. Some of the starter pinion teeth are marginally worn back at an angle at the end they first engage the ring gear. Should I be looking for some other kind of starter? Should I just try a new lucas starter (this one has worked great for about 10 years now). Should I yank the mill and get the ring gear replaced even though it looks OK to me? chuck From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Oct 28 11:12:11 2007 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:12:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue In-Reply-To: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> References: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <68vr7k$1mej9j@email.mtu.edu> Chuck, Time for a new ring gear and possibly pinion too. I had a jeep with your problems. I used to try the starter and if it didn't engage I had to open the hood, grab the fan belt and turn the engine a bit until some "new / good" teeth rolled around. When a engine stops, it tends to stop in one of 4, 6, or 8 places due to engine compression. So, the teeth in those locations see more work than the others. That's why your starter sometimes engages and some times not. Now you need to become familiar with cold chisels, bar-b-q's or tourch, and plan a time when you can slip a flywheel in the deep freeze without the family knowing! LOL Good luck btw, I was telling this story to a guy from one of the Big 3 auto manufactures - a "bean counter" type. He said, "I didn't know you could still start engines that way." I guess when I told the part about turning the engine with the fan belt, that he thought I was starting the engine that way - much like the old hand cranks. Oh, well. . . . Tim Collins 1966 AH Sprite From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Oct 28 12:09:08 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:09:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <47249301.2090209@wi.net> References: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> <47249301.2090209@wi.net> Message-ID: I picked up one at an out-of-the way Chapters that I happened to be passing by, just a bit ago. They had 2 more on the shelf. I imagine Canadian prices might be a bit steep for you. $12.95. What's Chapters in the States? Indigo? RD Great White North From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Oct 28 14:12:09 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue In-Reply-To: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> References: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4724FB29.8010002@comcast.net> chuck wrote: > Got a standard Lucas starter that more and more often does > not engage the ring gear. It could be just a weak bendix spring on the starter nose or it could be a worn ring gear. I would try a different starter before replacing the ring gear. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Oct 28 13:25:54 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <200710281434.l9SEYnVi003982@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <380-2200710028134446515@earthlink.net> <200710281434.l9SEYnVi003982@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: No, I think they're from Britain! ;) RD -----Original Message----- From: Chris Manuel I'm banking on my misc Cortina parts I asked about yesterday anyway...that is one homely looking car. I'm not sure how one found its way in my area. Must be from Canada. That makes them more rare and valuable, right? Chris 66MKIII From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Oct 28 15:27:48 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 Message-ID: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> Eureka! It starts! Here's what I did: removed the starter, played with the starter and the jumper cables, sprayed WD-40 on the starter shaft and slid the bendix back and forth while turning the starter shaft. Replaced the starter and really cranked down on the nut holding the cable. I disabled the dizzy and hit the key and ran the starter around and around and it does NOT kick out ever. Many revs of the ring gear and no probs. I enabled the dizzy and hit the key again and again and again and it engages and starts every damned time. No spinning, no grinding, allways engaging. So ... what did I do? The bendix assembly was NOT all crudded up. In fact it looked clean to me. I'm guessing that when the WD-40 evaporates I'll be back where I was. Then what??? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Oct 28 13:57:42 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:57:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster References: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> <47249301.2090209@wi.net> Message-ID: That was nice story, except for the teary eyed guys part. :) I showed the images to my wife and briefly told the story and now she's trying to get rid of me. She says I should go to one. Funny that 2 thoughts came to mind. 1. Pick someplace hot in February! 2. You'd probably send me to the wrong place!!! :) From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Oct 28 15:06:58 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:06:58 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 In-Reply-To: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> Message-ID: <306390.1675.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> G'day Chuck, On my 1098 in a mk2 sprite, I fitted a $25 starter from one of these cars: http://www.dragtimes.com/images/10160-1982-Holden-Gemini.jpg I can't remember the Chev name for this car, but it is an isuzu and has a hitachi starter that bolted right in to the sprite motor and worked great. There is bugger-all clearance between the solenoid and th body of the car (near the passenger footwell (driver's footwell for me here in australia) but that never was an issue for me until i fitted the 1275 and rivergate kit. the rivergate backing plate has the sarter mounted so the solenoid just wont clear the body of the car. Back to the junkyard someday to search for another, but for now I have a rebuilt lucas unit....which will do ...for now. the ring gears always wear in 2 places, 180 degrees apart because the engine nearly always comes to rest in the same spots. The gemini satrter engages the ring gear from the opposite side, and has tapered teeth on its cog. so a worn ring gear need not necessarily be replaced. I have heard that others were not successful in getting this starter to fit in their cars, but for 25 or 30 bucks...i think it's worth a shot. Andy chuck wrote: Eureka! It starts! Here's what I did: removed the starter, played with the starter and the jumper cables, sprayed WD-40 on the starter shaft and slid the bendix back and forth while turning the starter shaft. Replaced the starter and really cranked down on the nut holding the cable. I disabled the dizzy and hit the key and ran the starter around and around and it does NOT kick out ever. Many revs of the ring gear and no probs. I enabled the dizzy and hit the key again and again and again and it engages and starts every damned time. No spinning, no grinding, allways engaging. So ... what did I do? The bendix assembly was NOT all crudded up. In fact it looked clean to me. I'm guessing that when the WD-40 evaporates I'll be back where I was. Then what??? _______________________________________________ a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Oct 28 15:11:51 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:11:51 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] manifold for 1.75" SU Message-ID: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, is anyone running a 1.5" or 1.75" SU on their spridget? If so, what manifold did you use? All of the mini manifolds I have seen look like the dashpot will foul the bonnet on a sprite. Is there a way to make it work? adaptor? grind away the water heating pipe and mount the manifold upside-down? Is there an aftermarket manifold made for this purpose? cheers Andy --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Oct 28 15:41:26 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:41:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710282237.l9SMbbSV008024@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Oh yeah, duh on my part. Must have slipped through the Michigan border or somewhere to get to my area. What I meant of worth more was maybe a buck or two with the exchange So it seems there is just as much as a cult following with these as well. No, I don't have the car, just these two gauges, a couple of dash switches, and who knows what else yet. The previous owner was in a giving mood, and I was not about to get picky on things. I was thinking of dissecting the tach to convert to neg earth, but wanted to see if anyone was in need of one, eh? Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:26 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics No, I think they're from Britain! ;) RD -----Original Message----- From: Chris Manuel I'm banking on my misc Cortina parts I asked about yesterday anyway...that is one homely looking car. I'm not sure how one found its way in my area. Must be from Canada. That makes them more rare and valuable, right? Chris 66MKIII _______________________________________________ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 28 15:52:39 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] manifold for 1.75" SU In-Reply-To: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21ab0a5a9b4a542b8a44d24a.20071028155239.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Andy, Apt (www.aptfast.com) here in California sells the correct manifold for the HIF 1.75 carb for a Sprite. (see picture of HIF44 on my Bugeye attached) It has the correct angle so the bonnet does not come in cantact with the dashpot cover. Also see the APT web site picture of the Titan intake manifold they sell for $159.00 USD: http://tinyurl.com/23cw8y No financial interest, yada yada, yada. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Andy Webster > Greetings, > is anyone running a 1.5" or 1.75" SU on their spridget? > If so, what manifold did you use? > All of the mini manifolds I have seen look like the dashpot will foul > the bonnet on a sprite. > Is there a way to make it work? > adaptor? > grind away the water heating pipe and mount the manifold upside-down? > Is there an aftermarket manifold made for this purpose? > cheers > Andy [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSCF0096.JPG] From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 28 15:54:24 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics In-Reply-To: <200710282237.l9SMbbSV008024@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> References: <200710282237.l9SMbbSV008024@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <15840a39e70a35ca0a2bfb0a.20071028155424.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> I had a Cortina Mark 1 back in 1975. It was my everyday car for a few years. I loved that car. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 Chris Manuel > Oh yeah, duh on my part. > > Must have slipped through the Michigan border or somewhere to get to my > area. What I meant of worth more was maybe a buck or two with the > exchange > > So it seems there is just as much as a cult following with these as well. > No, I don't have the car, just these two gauges, a couple of dash > switches, > and who knows what else yet. The previous owner was in a giving mood, and > I > was not about to get picky on things. > > I was thinking of dissecting the tach to convert to neg earth, but wanted > to > see if anyone was in need of one, eh? > > Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+cmanuel=wi.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Robert Duquette > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:26 PM > To: 'Spridgets' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics > > No, I think they're from Britain! ;) > > RD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Manuel > > I'm banking on my misc Cortina parts I asked about yesterday anyway...that > is one homely looking car. I'm not sure how one found its way in my area. > Must be from Canada. That makes them more rare and valuable, right? > > Chris > > 66MKIII > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Oct 28 16:17:07 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:17:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 In-Reply-To: <306390.1675.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> <306390.1675.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <832899462.20071028161707@pacifier.com> Hello Andy, http://hometown.aol.com/martingf/sprite.html here's one that's modified slightly to fit sprites. WAAAAY cheaper than Mo&*, VB, etc. -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "66 Sprite "Give me some pre-packed cheese slices," said Tom craftily. From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 16:21:03 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:21:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] manifold for 1.75" SU References: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <21ab0a5a9b4a542b8a44d24a.20071028155239.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <036e01c819b9$36313da0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Me thinks THAT is just plain an UN-TRUTH, Mike!! You have spent enough money there so that you HAVE to be a share-holder!!!!!!!! Anon From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Oct 28 16:24:00 2007 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer at dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:24:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] manifold for 1.75" SU In-Reply-To: <036e01c819b9$36313da0$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com><21ab0a5a9b4a542b8a44d24a.20071028155239.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> <036e01c819b9$36313da0$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <0a0a0a0a.20071028152400.eeratvarre@www.dslextreme.com> Somebody has to put his kids through college. ;^) Mike 63AHBJ7 > <> > > Me thinks THAT is just plain an UN-TRUTH, Mike!! > > You have spent enough money there so that you HAVE to be a > share-holder!!!!!!!! > > Anon > > > _______________________________________________ > rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 16:26:40 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics References: <200710282237.l9SMbbSV008024@ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <038a01c819ba$00a98420$6601a8c0@actualshop> Chris: <> a] There is NO way I would touch the tach. b] I WOULD be doing some e-bay selling AFTER scouring the web for Cortina sites/clubs. Ed From cfchrist at earthlink.net Sun Oct 28 16:47:37 2007 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:47:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Eddie Sachs... Message-ID: <13840998.1193615257732.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> how sad. it was a terrible loss. eddie was a good friend of my father's. chuck -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson >Sent: Oct 27, 2007 12:27 PM >To: Spridgets , Yahoo Spridget list >Subject: [Spridgets] Eddie Sachs... > >For those who are too young, or who want to relive the tragedy... > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ9RaX5rBgU > >-- >Cheers!! >Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City From WJHS1960 at comcast.net Sun Oct 28 16:49:50 2007 From: WJHS1960 at comcast.net (WJHS1960) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:49:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] For Sale References: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net><306390.1675.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <832899462.20071028161707@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <046b01c819bd$3b78b960$6601a8c0@actualshop> '72 RWA Midget For Sale in Cars For Sale at www.justbrits.com !! From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Oct 28 18:11:33 2007 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:11:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 In-Reply-To: <000d01c819b0$a3f7e590$1da1bf46@personal> References: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> <000d01c819b0$a3f7e590$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <47253345.8000607@verizon.net> No No No No ... Yesss! But all the other emails I got tell me to put abso-F'in-lutely nothing on the bendix. That anything I put on it will screw it up. IZZZZ there no truth??? Jack Laird wrote: > If you check the good book you will find that the gear where it rides > on the shaft is supose to have a bit of oil or something on it. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Oct 28 17:20:51 2007 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 3.9 Message-ID: <198886994.20071028172051@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, put the 3.9 in last weekend. It RAINED until THIS weekend (this is Western Washington after all) but i finally had a chance to take the red thing out for some driving. all i can say is transformative. .. between that change and the 5 speed, it's gone from a "sports" car to a GT.(some would say i've roont it?) .. .. .. .. now if i were to replace the 1098 with a 1380? -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite "the red thing" (HAN8L 49403) * "Nice looking glass!" said Tom reflectively. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 17:35:34 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:35:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <00b301c81903$39ded400$0401a8c0@midget> <47249301.2090209@wi.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710281735v161e1187qc53454e065c753c5@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Robert... You don't suppose she'd want to send you to someplace that is hot all the time, do you? -- Cheers!! Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, 2008!! For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org On 10/28/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > That was nice story, except for the teary eyed guys part. :) > > I showed the images to my wife and briefly told the story and now she's > trying to get rid of me. She says I should go to one. > > Funny that 2 thoughts came to mind. > 1. Pick someplace hot in February! > 2. You'd probably send me to the wrong place!!! :) From abcoz at hky.com Sun Oct 28 18:56:59 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:56:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue In-Reply-To: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000501c819ce$fe3e1ce0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> Something to be concerned about: Several years back, my Midget's starter was exhibiting the same symptoms you describe. I ignored is until it was time to pull the engine for a clutch replacement. Much to my surprise, the starter had pushed the ring gear forward, on the flywheel, into the oil pump cover! It had machined half of the end off of the oil pump cover! Fortunately, I had another oil pump cover in my parts stash, and a new ring gear was not expensive. I had my machinist weld the new ring gear on, just to be safe. Hopefully, your starter/ring gear issue isn't the same one that I was presented with. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chuck Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:29 PM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue Got a standard Lucas starter that more and more often does not engage the ring gear. Hit the key, and sometimes it starts to start then whirs. Sometimes hit the key and it just whirs; then I move the crank and it engages just fine. Sounds like there should be a big gap in the ring gear where teeth are broken. Just pulled the starter and looked. Some of the ring gear teeth are marginally shorter than others, but none are broken nor chipped. Some of the starter pinion teeth are marginally worn back at an angle at the end they first engage the ring gear. Should I be looking for some other kind of starter? Should I just try a new lucas starter (this one has worked great for about 10 years now). Should I yank the mill and get the ring gear replaced even though it looks OK to me? chuck _______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Sun Oct 28 19:14:05 2007 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:14:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 In-Reply-To: <47253345.8000607@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000801c819d1$61c1a8c0$6501a8c0@DOSBOURNE.hky.com> I don't know which "good" book our friend was referring to, but it certainly wasn't anything written by anyone connected to BMC/Lucas/MG/A-H. If you put ANY lubricant on that shaft (WD-40 is infamous for combining with airborne dust and turning to gum), it will hold dust from the clutch disc, and you'll have another mess on your hands. Your best bet is to pull that starter and spray some Brake-Kleen on it, to get the WD-40 off of it. If the shaft has any rust on it, you need to get that cleaned off, for best results. You can (or, at least you used to be able to) buy a Bendix spring repair kit. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+abcoz=hky.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chuck Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:12 PM To: Jack Laird; spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 No No No No ... Yesss! But all the other emails I got tell me to put abso-F'in-lutely nothing on the bendix. That anything I put on it will screw it up. IZZZZ there no truth??? Jack Laird wrote: > If you check the good book you will find that the gear where it rides > on the shaft is supose to have a bit of oil or something on it. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 19:02:22 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:02:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] manifold for 1.75" SU In-Reply-To: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <79442.17811.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710281902l2387352an8c789bbb3194aee9@mail.gmail.com> I had a Titan on my 1275 and picked up some SU HIF-6s from some Volvo guy cheap. I also had a nice HIF-44 that I got from England via Ebay for like $100. The Volvo carbs required different needles and springs. The 44 from across the pond was set up for 1275 "Fast Road" use. SUs are great carbs and I think single 6 or 44 is the way to go on a 1275, unless you are racing, then go with the Weber side draft. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Oct 28 19:06:30 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:06:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue In-Reply-To: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> References: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710281906ya007bd1v7b57a7e50315561c@mail.gmail.com> Here is the Isuzu starter that will fit: Isuzu Starter #16878 1989-90 Isuzu Amigo 2.6L 1989-94 Isuzu Amigo 2.3L 1988-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.3L 1985-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.0L Turbo 1988-89 Isuzu Pickup 2.6L 1986-94 Isuzu Pickup 2.3L 1988-90 Isuzu Trooper 2.6L 1986-87 Isuzu Trooper 2.3L From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Oct 28 20:50:49 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:50:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Starter Issue In-Reply-To: <4724FB29.8010002@comcast.net> References: <4724D4F3.1080100@verizon.net> <4724FB29.8010002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8095B1CD-A9BD-41DA-B2B8-060693D61820@comcast.net> umm.. and a week charging system / battery. Charge battery well then try. Made a BIG difference on mine..hmm.. still gotta adjust that regulator so that I have more than 2 candle power coming out of the headlights.. Lester On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > chuck wrote: >> Got a standard Lucas starter that more and more often does >> not engage the ring gear. > > It could be just a weak bendix spring on the starter nose or it > could be > a worn ring gear. > I would try a different starter before replacing the ring gear. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________ From b-evans at earthlink.net Sun Oct 28 21:32:18 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow Message-ID: <380-22007101294321878@earthlink.net> As I drove down an Anaheim street today, I saw what has to sum it all up: . CHAO'S ANTIQUE FURNITURE . Factory Direct to You At Low Cost Buster Evan From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 03:11:02 2007 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:11:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Florida town getting smarter In-Reply-To: <47256530.5050400@earthlink.net> References: <47256530.5050400@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0710290311sb8494do23b5bc4432d5eda2@mail.gmail.com> The hell you say.... I didn't know the Chinese made anything that costs more than $50!! Cheers!! Jim On 10/28/07, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > > Our kinda town, Frank! > > http://tinyurl.com/24alme > > Buster From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Oct 29 03:58:41 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:58:41 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 Message-ID: A word about GR starters.... "a weak battery will start your engine", blah, blah, blah... Well...not for long as GR starters are prone to contact deterioration with other than a strong battery. A weak battery will severly burn the contacts and result in no starter in less than six months. BTDT with a new battery that had a bad cell right off the shelf. Otherwise they work just fine and are great for hi-compression motors but add a "dynamic battery check" to your oil change sched or whatever as weak batteries and GR reduction starters are not a compatible pairing. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Oct 29 04:12:50 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:12:50 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 Message-ID: "Bendix drive" A bit of a smear of graphite powder, perhaps? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Oct 29 04:19:10 2007 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:19:10 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Starter -- part 2 Message-ID: "really cranked down on that nut holding the cable" But hopefully, not to the extent you loosened the terminal within as Frank C. has warned all concerned in this regard previously? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 29 06:49:49 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow References: <380-22007101294321878@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000d01c81a32$93b44110$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > As I drove down an Anaheim street today, I saw what has to sum it all up: > > . CHAO'S ANTIQUE FURNITURE > . Factory Direct to You At Low Cost You know, I remember my father driving us through North Carolina over 30 years ago... It seemed that every sign we came to was either a factory outlet or an antique store. We kept joking that there was going to be a merger soon, but I guess it took longer than we expected! David From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 29 07:22:16 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:22:16 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow In-Reply-To: <000d01c81a32$93b44110$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: I guess the shipping is slow. RD > > . CHAO'S ANTIQUE FURNITURE > > . Factory Direct to You At Low Cost From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Oct 29 07:38:19 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow References: Message-ID: <001401c81a39$59f9cba0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> > . CHAO'S ANTIQUE FURNITURE >> > . Factory Direct to You At Low Cost >I guess the shipping is slow. Perhaps it is like Madeira wine... send it on a trip around the world via "slow boat to China" and viola! instant antiques. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 29 08:14:08 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:14:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Miata Message-ID: I have a question for those who know Miatas. I've been snooping around some low priced Miatas online lately and I keep seeing the black rocker panels. Is this a patch repair, or did they come like this? http://tinyurl.com/27sfc9 or http://preview.tinyurl.com/27sfc9 I'm just curious. I have neither funds nor parking space. RD From thefirebuilds at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 08:16:52 2007 From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Flash.) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:16:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Miata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a336b9d0710290816j2892c7c9r9d4ee66cb9319d34@mail.gmail.com> some came that way. early models, i think 91-93. my 01 has a clear rock chip barrier, which was on almost all of them its pretty common to find fiberglass repairs in the rockers though, bring your magnet. they rot out right in front of the rear wheel wells. If you catch it when it is superficial it isn't a big deal, but this is a stress point for the car if it gets mich deeper. On 10/29/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > I have a question for those who know Miatas. > > I've been snooping around some low priced Miatas online lately and I keep > seeing the black rocker panels. Is this a patch repair, or did they come > like this? > > http://tinyurl.com/27sfc9 > or > http://preview.tinyurl.com/27sfc9 > > I'm just curious. I have neither funds nor parking space. > > RD > > -- > "I didn't set goals as I went along; I just wanted to be quick as possible > and win as much as possible. I didn't look at the past, I didn't look at > the history, I didn't look at how many rallies other people had won - you > just go and win as many rallies as you can."  Colin McRae, 08/05/1968 > - 09/15/2007 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 29 08:22:40 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:22:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C0108170D@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca> Message-ID: To Hell, you mean? :) Maybe. She didn't state that specifically. What's with the drought in the lower east States? >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] > >Hey, Robert... You don't suppose she'd want to send you to someplace >that is hot all the time, do you? >-- >Cheers!! >Jim - 68 Midget in Dodge City >Don't miss 50 Years of Spridgets at Lake of the Ozarks, June 26-29, >2008!! >For info... http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org > >On 10/28/07, Robert Duquette wrote: > > That was nice story, except for the teary eyed guys part. :) > > > > I showed the images to my wife and briefly told the story and now >she's > > trying to get rid of me. She says I should go to one. > > > > Funny that 2 thoughts came to mind. > > 1. Pick someplace hot in February! > > 2. You'd probably send me to the wrong place!!! :) From dmg at bossig.com Mon Oct 29 08:36:57 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:36:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C0108170D@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca>, Message-ID: <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com> Shortage of Water = Shortage of Beer??? On No!!! It's the end of civilization as we know it.... On 29 Oct 2007 at 15:22, Robert Duquette wrote: >> What's with the drought in the lower east States? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 08:40:39 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:40:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Miata In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910710290840y18ee4e60maca907e2c8ddc562@mail.gmail.com> My Red 94 has black rockers from the factory with the stone guard. Of the first gen NA Miatas, the 94 is the one to look for. They came with the bigger engine, bigger brakes, and OBD I. All years are good and fun to drive. There is a 94 M Edition with a hardtop for sale locally for $4000 negotiable. If I didn't already have two, I would try and get it. Cheers, Derf From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 08:41:48 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com> References: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C0108170D@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca> <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710290841j1ac82addq5002aedcde66947b@mail.gmail.com> No, because beer comes from England, Germany, and Wisconsin. On 10/29/07, Dave G. wrote: > Shortage of Water = Shortage of Beer??? > On No!!! It's the end of civilization as we know it.... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 29 08:57:01 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:57:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910710290841j1ac82addq5002aedcde66947b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And Canada. If you ever get a chance to try these 2, it is worth it. Sleeman's 'India Pale Ale' and/or 'Fine Porter'. http://www.sleeman.com/en/html/beer/jsp/paleale/index.htm d trebor >From: derf > >No, because beer comes from England, Germany, and Wisconsin. > >On 10/29/07, Dave G. wrote: > > Shortage of Water = Shortage of Beer??? > > On No!!! It's the end of civilization as we know it.... From dmg at bossig.com Mon Oct 29 09:30:41 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:30:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910710290841j1ac82addq5002aedcde66947b@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <4725A841.18640.946D31@dmg.bossig.com> Not forgetting all the micro-brews in WA state... Many Hop and wheat fields around my area, and the Columbia River for water... Luck was on my side when I moved here ;-) On 29 Oct 2007 at 15:57, Robert Duquette wrote: >> >No, because beer comes from England, Germany, and Wisconsin. - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Oct 29 09:33:54 2007 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:33:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI breakthrough Message-ID: <002401c81a49$7f7afb00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> This weekend was the breakthrough. I got all the fuel plumbing squared away, return line, pressure regulator, pump wiring etc. and couldn't get it to start. No fuel pressure. Backwards wiring on the fuel pump...DOH!! Switched wires and it fires up!! I still need to adjust the air bleed on the Ford fast idle valve to produce a slower "fast idle" (just make another gasket with a smaller hole punched in the gasket) and adjust all the values in the fueling table under load conditions as part of the complete tune-up, but the initial table works well enough to take the car out and around the neighborhood. This morning before work, after all yesterday's fiddling about, I tried to start it up cold. It worked! From here on out, its just one drive after another with an eye on the laptop screen and slight tweaks of the fuel table. This baby is going to Missouri! Once the fuel is dialed in I'll activate the ignition circuits and give spark control over to the computer as well. I knew I'd want timing control so I built in all the optional circuits when I initially assembled the Megasquirt. Then I'll have the much desired "timing retard on boost" that makes 91 octane pump gas and turbos get along. I've spent some time thinking about the ramifications of altering a simple road-repairable car to black-box control and how far it is from the original Sprite experience. In the end, since my car was so far down the "hot-rod" road when I got it, originality was never really a part of this particular car's history. Speaking to the old friend that sold me the car, I think he would have done the same. He was the one who hung the turbo on it in the first place. I'm just continuing his legacy of hot-rodding. Since I built every single part of the system, I should be somewhat able to fix it if needed. Also, if this electronic stuff doesn't fail in the first day or two, its usually good for years. God helpp the poor devil that gets this car after I'm gone. They better hope I get around to filling a notebook with notes and part numbers and custom wiring diagrams. Of course I'll keep the big ole 1.75 SU and manifold in a box under the bench for future whussies. The next posting, with luck, will be a video with sound of the running motor. Glen Byrns From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 29 09:41:22 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:41:22 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <4725A841.18640.946D31@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: Now luck is under your belt? >From: "Dave G." > >Not forgetting all the micro-brews in WA state... Many Hop and wheat fields >around my area, and the Columbia River for water... >Luck was on my side when I moved here ;-) > >On 29 Oct 2007 at 15:57, Robert Duquette wrote: > > >> >No, because beer comes from England, Germany, and Wisconsin. > >- >Dave G >'65 MKIII Sprite >_______________________________________________ >robertduquette at sympatico.ca > >Edit your replies > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 29 11:34:49 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (b-evans at earthlink.net) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:34:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Inflatable car storage Message-ID: <472627C9.7030309@earthlink.net> oldsaabguy wrote: ".. seems like a dead link to me. I can't find a working link regarding Carcoon. Any more ideas??" Hmm. I got it without any problem, so I am sending the page directly to you, as well as to the list. You might also check permabag.co.uk , as well as this Google search of site in England: http://tinyurl.com/2sef2c . If I can help any more, don't hesitate to throw a rock in my direction, for perhaps in my infinite stupidity I might find something. Buster Evans http://www.carcoon.co.uk/ [carcoon.co.uk-logo-1.gif] [profile.gif]-[profile.gif] [Products.gif]-[Products.gif] [Gallery.gif]-[Gallery.gif] [Prices.gif]-[Prices.gif] [contact_us.gif]-[contact_us.gif] [Latest.gif]-[Latest.gif] [faqs.gif]-[faqs.gif] [recog.gif]-[recog.gif] [green-strip.gif] [welcome-carcoon.gif] _________________________________________________________________ Carcoon is the ultimate automobile storage system designed to protect your precious investment. With it's unique patented "active airflow" process and other advanced features, Carcoon sets a new standard in car care. 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[step1.jpg]-[step1.jpg] [step2.jpg]-[step2.jpg] [step3.jpg]-[step3.jpg] _________________________________________________________________ [carcoon-storage-systems-int.gif] Orchard Mill, Orchard Street, Salford M6 6FL Telephone: 0161 737 9690 | Fax: 0161 737 7400 | E-mail: info at carcoon.co.uk Copyright Carcoon Storage Systems International Ltd Designed by Kencomp Internet Limited From grday at btinternet.com Mon Oct 29 11:47:11 2007 From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:47:11 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow References: <380-22007101294321878@earthlink.net> <000d01c81a32$93b44110$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <005301c81a5c$1dd6f800$d8a99656@tairswork> When in China a couple of years back there was a building that had the look of a Mid C17 structure but had a fresh looking finish, next to a walled city. Knowing the walled city was also surrounded in C17 I asked the guide why the building had not been enclosed with the rest of the town. "Oh, the building only finished two months ago, it is a good antique though, it looks just right." It was a new building. Similarly when visiting the Terra Cotta Army there is a factory that makes 'Genuine Terra Cotta Army soldiers' around 30mins bus ride away. Life size, they'll export anywhere in the world and you can watch your soldier or general being made. It does make me wonder just how many of those you see at Emperor Qin's tomb are for real and how many were transported there from the factory. There seems to be little honesty in the Chinese soul when it comes to selling or representing anything outside China. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow >> As I drove down an Anaheim street today, I saw what has to sum it all up: >> >> . CHAO'S ANTIQUE FURNITURE >> . Factory Direct to You At Low Cost > > You know, I remember my father driving us through North Carolina over > 30 years ago... It seemed that every sign we came to was either a factory > outlet or an antique store. We kept joking that there was going to be a > merger soon, but I guess it took longer than we expected! > David > _______________________________________________ > grday at btinternet.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Oct 29 11:51:43 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:51:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Inflatable car storage In-Reply-To: <472627C9.7030309@earthlink.net> References: <472627C9.7030309@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <77743A2B-B972-41D8-B609-5AE3ECA49EA7@comcast.net> Thanks Buster!! I tried Safari and IE and neither would open the page.. Lester On Oct 29, 2007, at 1:34 PM, b-evans at earthlink.net wrote: > oldsaabguy wrote: ".. seems like a dead link to me. I can't find a > working link regarding Carcoon. Any more ideas??" > > Hmm. I got it without any problem, so I am sending the page > directly to you, as well as to the list. > > You might also check permabag.co.uk , as well as this Google search > of site in England: http://tinyurl.com/2sef2c . > > If I can help any more, don't hesitate to throw a rock in my > direction, for perhaps in my infinite stupidity I might find > something. > > Buster Evans From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 12:20:55 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow In-Reply-To: <005301c81a5c$1dd6f800$d8a99656@tairswork> References: <380-22007101294321878@earthlink.net> <000d01c81a32$93b44110$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> <005301c81a5c$1dd6f800$d8a99656@tairswork> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710291220j615fc5c3i8df9b8ce6434475f@mail.gmail.com> Some Chinese will set up a nice ISO rated factory for you to tour and see your products being made (you being the importer of products to the US). When you leave the nice factory is then set up for the next customer to tour and production of your goods continues at the real factory located elsewhere. The Chinese can be just as unscrupulous as any other group of people, Americans included. I read an article about a man who made furniture mimicking old world techniques. He built a chair and aged it cleverly, including placing it in the surf for a time and "smoking" it to get some real patina. Eventually the chair ended up in a museum. Here it is: http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/pic/2000/00apr.asp From dmg at bossig.com Mon Oct 29 13:38:46 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:38:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <4725A841.18640.946D31@dmg.bossig.com>, Message-ID: <4725E266.7576.1778ED2@dmg.bossig.com> More like 'over' my belt.... On 29 Oct 2007 at 16:41, Robert Duquette wrote: >> Now luck is under your belt? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From b-evans at earthlink.net Mon Oct 29 14:20:01 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:20:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The ultimate Ching, Chang, Chow Message-ID: <380-2200710129212010@earthlink.net> Guy R. Day wrote: "There seems to be little honesty in the Chinese soul when it comes to > selling or representing anything outside China." Are you questioning the new god of multi-culturalism that reigns supreme? (If not, would anyone please let me know what free nation has survived in a multi-cultural state? No, multi-culturalism can only be enforced by the State. Witness the Soviet Union and what happened when the Cold War ended.) Buster Evan From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Oct 29 16:26:47 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:26:47 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Inflatable car storage Message-ID: I think your computer/server is most definitely the dead link! :) CapBob From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 17:46:12 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:46:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster References: Message-ID: <01da01c81a8e$460a2f90$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! And if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right JD??? From jlaird237 at cox.net Mon Oct 29 20:00:40 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:00:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid question-front 948 crank pully Message-ID: <003601c81aa1$0e328d70$1da1bf46@personal> How do you get the darn things off with out damageing them. This one, only on for about 6 months is trying my patence. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Oct 29 20:42:57 2007 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:42:57 +1100 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] roller rockers Message-ID: <621126.40671.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings, has anyone tried the roller rockers which appear in this ebay ad? Item number: 250179973367 i would like to hear your opinions on this product. Andy --------------------------------- Sick of deleting your inbox? Yahoo!7 Mail has free unlimited storage. Get it now. From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Mon Oct 29 20:44:32 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:44:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid question-front 948 crank pully References: <003601c81aa1$0e328d70$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <002601c81aa7$30644f40$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hi Jack, Impact wrench and a deep socket 1 5/16", if it's the cranking style one, or a regular 1 5/16" socket if it's just the short bolt style. Always works for me! Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Laird" To: "spridgets net" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid question-front 948 crank pully > How do you get the darn things off with out damageing them. This one, only on > for about 6 months is trying my patence. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Mon Oct 29 20:44:57 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:44:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... Re: [midgetsprite] Inflatable car storage References: Message-ID: <00d001c81aa7$3debbfe0$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> I am now SERIOUSLY worried, folks!! That is from a webtv user and NON-computer owner!!!!!! The end of the world IS near!!! From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 20:57:16 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:57:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] roller rockers In-Reply-To: <621126.40671.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <621126.40671.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710292057m663922a2ob341bd06bc6b9489@mail.gmail.com> Yes, those are Harland Sharp rockers and are good quality. From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Oct 29 21:01:40 2007 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:01:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com> Message-ID: <000901c81aa9$952479d0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> It gets worse. I was reading that there's a shortage of hops too! Apparently farmers are planting more corn for ethanol. >>Shortage of Water = Shortage of Beer??? On No!!! It's the end of civilization as we know it.... Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite On 29 Oct 2007 at 15:22, Robert Duquette wrote: >> What's with the drought in the lower east States? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM From hal at katemuir.com Mon Oct 29 21:57:02 2007 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:57:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] roller rockers In-Reply-To: <621126.40671.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: These may be of good quality: but they do NOT come with adjuster screwa, pillars, or shaft. By the time you replace the shaft and adjuster screws you may find that you have spent more than pyrchasing the set from APT. http://www.aptfast.com/ , navigate to APT parts, A-series, then Cam and valve train, find HLR-22. These are 1.5 ratio, bushed at the shaft and come WITH pillars, adjusting screws, AND a heavy duty shaft, all for about $65 more than the cost of the eBay rockers. Hal -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+hal=katemuir.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andy Webster Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:43 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] roller rockers Greetings, has anyone tried the roller rockers which appear in this ebay ad? Item number: 250179973367 i would like to hear your opinions on this product. Andy From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 30 04:12:18 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:12:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <000901c81aa9$952479d0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> References: <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com> <000901c81aa9$952479d0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: So, is this supposed beer shortage as a result of man's activities or is it due to environmental causes?? :) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Herby Sent: October 30, 2007 12:02 AM To: dmg at bossig.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster It gets worse. I was reading that there's a shortage of hops too! Apparently farmers are planting more corn for ethanol. >>Shortage of Water = Shortage of Beer??? On No!!! It's the end of civilization as we know it.... Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite On 29 Oct 2007 at 15:22, Robert Duquette wrote: >> What's with the drought in the lower east States? Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 30 05:44:19 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:44:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C01081731@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca> Message-ID: Well ... you lost me. When I was asked if my wife wanted me to go to someplace that is hot all the time, I assumed the thought was "Go to Hell". Is there a placenamed 'Hell' in the US? I have been to "Hell" on the island of Grand Cayman. I would go there again, in non-prime hurricane season, if I had the money. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? >-----Original Message----- >From: 63AHBJ7 > ><> > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! >And >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right >JD??? > > From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Oct 30 05:48:41 2007 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C01081731@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca> Message-ID: There's one in Michigan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Duquette Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:45 am Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Well ... you lost me. When I was asked if my wife wanted me to go > to > someplace that is hot all the time, I assumed the thought was "Go > to Hell". > Is there a placenamed 'Hell' in the US? I have been to "Hell" on > the island > of Grand Cayman. I would go there again, in non-prime hurricane > season, if > I had the money. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 63AHBJ7 > > > ><> > > > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI > !!!!! > >And > >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right > >JD??? > > > > From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Oct 30 06:43:29 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EFI breakthrough In-Reply-To: <002401c81a49$7f7afb00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <002401c81a49$7f7afb00$6664640a@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <20071030084329.4ggacn7vcw8kkogg@webmail.opentransfer.com> Looking Forward to that one!! Larry Quoting Glen Byrns : > > The next posting, with luck, will be a video with sound of the running motor. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 30 07:03:32 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:03:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] very cool Message-ID: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From dmg at bossig.com Tue Oct 30 07:08:50 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:08:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: References: <0A82B1F60C39C541A336687D081AC99C01081731@onncrxms7.agr.gc.ca>, , Message-ID: <4726D882.8545.173577@dmg.bossig.com> I went to 'HotasHell' in '67 ... a small town west of Johannesburg, RSA - in the Desert... I don't know if I've spelt it correctly.. but it was. On 30 Oct 2007 at 7:48, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >> > Is there a placenamed 'Hell' in the US? I have been to "Hell" on >> > the island >> > of Grand Cayman. I would go there again, in non-prime hurricane >> > season, if >> > I had the money. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From proefroc at uiuc.edu Tue Oct 30 07:16:47 2007 From: proefroc at uiuc.edu (Jim Proefrock) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] very cool In-Reply-To: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> References: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> Message-ID: <2E9144ED-0122-483A-AC64-F2B065EA77B7@uiuc.edu> i think this one is a midget . . . http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_44452-Austin-Healey-Sprite-1970.html On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Oct 30 08:44:47 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:44:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster References: Message-ID: <001501c81b0b$e2cc7720$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Hell, Michigan USA 48169 Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster > Well ... you lost me. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 63AHBJ7 > > > ><> > > > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! > >And > >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right > >JD??? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 08:51:43 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <001501c81b0b$e2cc7720$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <804785.94823.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> According to the United States Geological Survey, Hell is a locale located in Riverside County, California, USA, at 33 41 27 N, 115 16 22 W. Vigil Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Hell, Michigan USA 48169 Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster > Well ... you lost me. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 63AHBJ7 > > > ><> > > > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! > >And > >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right > >JD??? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 08:58:10 2007 From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <804785.94823.qm@web38910.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <416938.72986.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> History Hell was founded by Charles Carr in 1954. Carr, with his wife and their ten-year-old son Terry were the only inhabitants as of 1958. He also served as the lone member of Hell's Chamber of Commerce. On several occasions, Hell has been referenced when it is especially hot out. Columnist Art Ryon mentioned in his September 7, 1955 column in the Los Angeles Times that on September 1, it was 110 degrees in Los Angeles, yet was only 105 degrees in Hell. On October 17, 1958, The Los Angeles Times published an article "LA's Hotter Than Hell--Only 97 There" when it reached 104 degrees the same day. According to a UPI news report, it also snowed in Hell at least once, causing many to remark that "it was a cold day in Hell". There were once several roadside signs referencing Hell, including one near Indio, California which read "100 miles of desert ahead - right through Hell." Hell was abandoned in the late 1950's or early 1960's when it was isolated by the construction of US Highway 60 and 70. Its remains were demolished and burned by the California State Division of Highways in late 1964 to make way for what would eventually become Interstate 10. uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote: According to the United States Geological Survey, Hell is a locale located in Riverside County, California, USA, at 33 41 27 N, 115 16 22 W. Vigil Paul Asgeirsson wrote: Hell, Michigan USA 48169 Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster > Well ... you lost me. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 63AHBJ7 > > > ><> > > > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! > >And > >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right > >JD??? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 09:07:31 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:07:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] very cool In-Reply-To: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> References: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> Message-ID: The forgot the Sprite in Losing Chase On 10/30/07, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite > > > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > ~iii > > > wsthompson at thicko.com > > www.thicko.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jlaird237 at cox.net Tue Oct 30 09:19:45 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:19:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine all apart Message-ID: <002201c81b10$af622290$1da1bf46@personal> Yep got the pully off even, used the window shims you get at home depot and went from side to side with steady pressure. Hardly even scratched the paint. Easy as pie. Thanks guys, I really recommend this methoid. So easy and fast. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Oct 30 09:26:22 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:26:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine all apart In-Reply-To: <002201c81b10$af622290$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: So Home Depot IS actually good for something? > Yep got the pully off even, used the window shims you get at home depot and > went from side to side with steady pressure. Hardly even scratched the paint. > Easy as pie. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 30 09:26:10 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] very cool In-Reply-To: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> References: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030112418.0392ae98@nosimport.com> At 09:03 AM 10/30/2007, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite What's with the rear bumper bar on the red BE in "Gambit" 3rd row far right on page 1 ??? Look like a (ready Jay?) "box" Sprite bumper.... no? Peter C. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 30 10:38:40 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:38:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> Literally. Latest order smelled of smoke... from the fires. Howsabout some Febreeze or sumptin. Peter C ;-) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Oct 30 10:50:09 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:50:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: To give the benefit of the doubt ... perhaps they were trying to duplicate the Lucas experience ?? RD >From: Peter C > >Literally. Latest order smelled of smoke... from the fires. > >Howsabout some Febreeze or sumptin. > > >Peter C ;-) From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 11:00:53 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:00:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Frames?? References: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> Message-ID: <024301c81b1e$d0ad8260$6601a8c0@actualshop> I am trying locate a set of Sprite/Midget seat frames from late '65 thru '68. Anybody?? TIA Ed From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 11:07:23 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:07:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710301107x379808d3ma102eb303f4e43b9@mail.gmail.com> If they were electric or electronic, then someone already released the magic blue smoke. From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 11:09:00 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine all apart In-Reply-To: References: <002201c81b10$af622290$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710301109t5cc779bexbfb2558de4f23731@mail.gmail.com> > So Home Depot IS actually good for something? I think you are embellishing a bit. That is not what he said. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Oct 30 11:09:49 2007 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter C) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:09:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frames?? In-Reply-To: <024301c81b1e$d0ad8260$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <47250CE4.8040907@verizon.net> <024301c81b1e$d0ad8260$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030130909.01b3bf70@nosimport.com> At 01:00 PM 10/30/2007, 63AHBJ7 wrote: >I am trying locate a set of Sprite/Midget seat frames from late '65 >thru '68. > >Anybody?? > >TIA > >Ed ================== And I'm looking for seat pans for the earlier seats pre-65 Peter C From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Oct 30 12:11:36 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy, Ph.D.) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:11:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] very cool In-Reply-To: <2E9144ED-0122-483A-AC64-F2B065EA77B7@uiuc.edu> References: <001101c81afd$aa79b490$ff6d1db0$@com> <2E9144ED-0122-483A-AC64-F2B065EA77B7@uiuc.edu> Message-ID: <20071030141136.k8jhecejkgw40k40@webmail.opentransfer.com> Yea, It's Kristi's Midget!! Larry Quoting Jim Proefrock : > i think this one is a midget . . . > > http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_44452-Austin-Healey-Sprite-1970.html > > On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > >> http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles.php?make=Austin+Healey&model=Sprite > _______________________________________________ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy at bbl.med.upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 30 13:21:56 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:21:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TR? New Mini? I think not! Message-ID: <380-2200710230202156968@earthlink.net> What is wrong with THIS picture? http://tinyurl.com/2c7rhg C'mon, now, a Mini SUV???? Buster Evans From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 30 13:41:47 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:41:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! Message-ID: <380-2200710230204147593@earthlink.net> Peter C wrote: "Moss parts stink!! Literally. Latest order smelled of smoke... from the fires." Hmmm. Couldn't have been from the Southern California wildfires. The nearest one to Goleta was 50 miles away, and it was a minor one put out in a few hours. However, the Associated Press reports there have been uncontrolled fires reported in Greater Hinggan, China, as well as other fires in Chongqing and Wujiang City. Buster From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 14:52:07 2007 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:52:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] TR? New Mini? I think not! In-Reply-To: <380-2200710230202156968@earthlink.net> References: <380-2200710230202156968@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <205cef430710301452q5d5ddfc6r6ac1eb0832f45cec@mail.gmail.com> They even stole the Pontiac Solstice rear. Lin On 10/30/07, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > > What is wrong with THIS picture? > > http://tinyurl.com/2c7rhg > > C'mon, now, a Mini SUV???? > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > grunthaner at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Tue Oct 30 15:07:32 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:07:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster References: <47259BA9.3773.6339BB@dmg.bossig.com><000901c81aa9$952479d0$6601a8c0@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <005e01c81b41$502cda00$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Yes, very likely! Pa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster > So, is this supposed beer shortage as a result of man's activities or is it > due to environmental causes?? :) From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 16:11:13 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:11:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] TR? New Mini? I think not! References: <380-2200710230202156968@earthlink.net> <205cef430710301452q5d5ddfc6r6ac1eb0832f45cec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <018001c81b4a$2ac14c20$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> And if you will notice Linda, the TR badge is for Motorcycle!! Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 16:07:47 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:07:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> Message-ID: <4727B943.2090008@comcast.net> And I always thought moss parts sucked. Maybe the parts smell of smoke from the dung fired forges over in china? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Oct 30 16:23:43 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:23:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... TR? New Mini? I think not! Message-ID: New TR looks like a mix of your basic modern sports cars which isn't bad. Miss the more individual character of the old brands but economy of operation with decent performance on reg. unleaded (if possible) along with clean air and reasonable crash-worthiness are today's priorities after all. Change fluids according to sched., replace parts when needed and wash it......that's about it, I guess. No balancing carbs and all that good, fun stuff! A MINI SUV....this I gotta see. :) And having Stamford MINI just around the corner from my crib, I'll probably be one of the first to see the actual car, if and when. 'Course, I'm old and could drop dead at anytime (wished for by many, no doubt, including ex-wives:) so maybe not! CapBob From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 16:34:19 2007 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... TR? New Mini? I think not! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <334100.49637.qm@web51608.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: > > A MINI SUV....this I gotta see. :) Go to Autoweek.com, upper left under search enter MINI and enter, look at third subject down about Largest MINI. Enjoy.... Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 30 17:41:02 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:41:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A rose by any other name.... Message-ID: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> >From MotoringFile.com: "MINI will be developing a longer wheel base car meant to accommodate a larger boot and more rear passenger room." May I be so bold to suggest that by definition, it will NOT be a "Mini"!!! They could just as accurately call it an Abrams Tank! Buster Evans From dmeadow at juno.com Tue Oct 30 18:08:17 2007 From: dmeadow at juno.com (dmeadow at juno.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:08:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Group..... TR? New Mini? I think not! Message-ID: <20071030.200817.4020.4.dmeadow@juno.com> Ironic, considering MINI's initial advertising campaign had huge billboards calling it the "Anti-SUV." Gotta wonder how they came up with that brand association. David 2007 MINI Cooper S On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Bob Van Kirk writes: > --- "Robert E. Shlafer" wrote: > > > > > A MINI SUV....this I gotta see. :) From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Oct 30 18:27:30 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:27:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A rose by any other name.... In-Reply-To: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> References: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> Message-ID: No it's a Clubman or a Traveller. Just like in the old days, but not stretched as much as the old Traveller was. Larry On Oct 30, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Robert Bruce Evans wrote: >> From MotoringFile.com: "MINI will be developing a longer wheel >> base car meant to accommodate a larger boot and more rear passenger >> room." > > May I be so bold to suggest that by definition, it will NOT be a > "Mini"!!! They could just as accurately call it an Abrams Tank! > > Buster Evans > _______________________________________________ > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Oct 30 18:31:24 2007 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:31:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A rose by any other name.... In-Reply-To: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> Message-ID: > by definition, it will NOT be a "Mini"!!! The current models are Midis at best. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 18:33:34 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:33:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A rose by any other name.... In-Reply-To: References: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4727DB6E.6010704@comcast.net> Larry Macy wrote: > No it's a Clubman or a Traveller. Just like in the old days, but not > stretched as much as the old Traveller was. The new MINI is already bigger than the old clubman or traveler. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Oct 30 18:36:45 2007 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A rose by any other name.... In-Reply-To: <4727DB6E.6010704@comcast.net> References: <380-22007103310412234@earthlink.net> <4727DB6E.6010704@comcast.net> Message-ID: <80ADFB73-FE8A-4817-B2C9-01DF68189E02@phillymgclub.com> 100% true and 55% bigger ;-) On Oct 30, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Larry Macy wrote: >> No it's a Clubman or a Traveller. Just like in the old days, but >> not stretched as much as the old Traveller was. > > The new MINI is already bigger than the old clubman or traveler. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 18:56:51 2007 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation Message-ID: <72354.10254.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (Some LBC content - SU carbs are next after Alfa wiring) Trying to get some work done in the garage before the back wall comes tumbling down....trying to comprehend how an Alfa shop manual could be so blatantly wrong, the garage stereo is blasting (if 5 inch woofers can actually "blast")....I had a revelation. The blues riff in "Mannish Boy"/"I'm a Man"/"Hoochie Coochie Man" is one of the more natural sounds ever put on record, and nobody plays it better than Muddy Waters. 5 beers into my wiring job, Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 30 19:01:30 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation References: <72354.10254.qm@web30515.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011101c81b61$f55d28c0$6401a8c0@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation (Some LBC content - SU carbs are next after Alfa wiring) Trying to get some work done in the garage before the back wall comes tumbling down....trying to comprehend how an Alfa shop manual could be so blatantly wrong, the garage stereo is blasting (if 5 inch woofers can actually "blast")....I had a revelation. The blues riff in "Mannish Boy"/"I'm a Man"/"Hoochie Coochie Man" is one of the more natural sounds ever put on record, and nobody plays it better than Muddy Waters. 5 beers into my wiring job, Ron ======================= My best advice: Put down the tools. Crank up the music. Get a comfy chair and enjoy. Also, you can't listen to the blues while drinking beer, you need whiskey... cheaper is better. LAD, a fellow blues fan. YMMV From b-evans at earthlink.net Tue Oct 30 20:13:52 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:13:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation Message-ID: <380-220071033131352687@earthlink.net> Ron Soave wrote: "....trying to comprehend how an Alfa shop manual could be so blatantly wrong," Simple. It is Italian! Hmmm. Oh, yeah, you and Frank would not understand. Buster From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Oct 30 20:43:19 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 Message-ID: <001601c81b70$2fae7a70$8f0b6f50$@com> One project for SOS '07 that we might consider is the disassembly of a very interesting race car I picked up last winter. It's a Bugeye with an extensive West Coast history. I have log books showing 119 races from the early 70's to the 90's. It was originally raced by Mike Mayon and motorsports hall of fame member Elliott Forbes Robinson. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Forbes-Robinson. The next owner was Dwayne Anderson, who worked with Carroll Shelby during the Can Am years. This is a historically significant car, and will be somewhat of an automotive archeological dig. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Oct 30 21:44:58 2007 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:44:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Bugeye Group..... TR? New Mini? I think not! Message-ID: Bob Van Kirk"Go to Autoweek.com" Thanx, Bob. :) CapBob From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 23:37:46 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:37:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width Message-ID: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> What is the width of a MG rim? From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 23:56:40 2007 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:56:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss parts stink!! In-Reply-To: <4727B943.2090008@comcast.net> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20071030123651.035dccd8@mailbag.com> <4727B943.2090008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190710302356kffd23e2j2baaacc8f9460bcf@mail.gmail.com> 5 1/2 hours until the a "dung forged steel" reference. We have a winner. I am thinking they are expanding to dung heated plastics. On 10/30/07, Frank Clarici wrote: > > And I always thought moss parts sucked. > Maybe the parts smell of smoke from the dung fired forges over in china? > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > wmgilroy at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 04:10:01 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 05:10:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width In-Reply-To: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com> 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, depending on the model. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 31 04:56:16 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:56:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> > 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, depending on the model. What model ever came with 5-inch rims? My RWAs are 4.5 (4 when they were wires), and I didn't think they went wider for the 1500s. Enquiring minds... David From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 31 05:36:59 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:36:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation In-Reply-To: <380-220071033131352687@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Maybe you should have held out for the 'beta' version of the shop manual?? Robert D >Ron Soave wrote: "....trying to comprehend how an Alfa shop manual could >be so blatantly wrong," From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Oct 31 05:41:31 2007 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:41:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 EFR Message-ID: <003201c81bbb$5f1539c0$1d3fad40$@com> Hey y'all, http://www.caranddriver.com/features/11372/sport-renaissance-man.html Nice article on Elliott Forbes Robinson. I know he raced 2 Sprites early. The first is mentioned as having belonged to his father. That car was autocrossed by Elliott and his sisters. The car pictured in this article is the 2nd, and was owned/prepared by EFR and Mike Mayon. That is the car I own. Unfortunately the trick wheels were traded off years ago. I'd love to find a set of those. if any of you know where I might find a set. SOS '07 will be the Fri & Sat. following Thanksgiving. Nov. 23 & 24. The Thicko International World Headquarters are located at the Dream Farm. a 10 acre farm between Fond du Lac & Oshkosh Wisconsin. We're smack dab in the middle of dairy farm country. The Thicko shop (yes, it is also known as the "homo club" ) is well lit, and well heated, should the weather be crap, as it often is that time of year, we'll be comfortable. We have plenty of parking. WST Wm. Severin Thompson ~iii wsthompson at thicko.com www.thicko.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/png which had a name of image001.png] From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Oct 31 06:17:13 2007 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:17:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation Message-ID: Turn off the computer and get some sleep! And, hit a meeting a in the morning. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:57 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation (Some LBC content - SU carbs are next after Alfa wiring) Trying to get some work done in the garage before the back wall comes tumbling down....trying to comprehend how an Alfa shop manual could be so blatantly wrong, the garage stereo is blasting (if 5 inch woofers can actually "blast")....I had a revelation. The blues riff in "Mannish Boy"/"I'm a Man"/"Hoochie Coochie Man" is one of the more natural sounds ever put on record, and nobody plays it better than Muddy Waters. 5 beers into my wiring job, Ron Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Oct 31 06:18:34 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:18:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Frame boxing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anyone have any pointers to gotchas on patching/boxing the front portion of a '79 frame - specifically where the sway bar bolts up. I am hoping there is enough good metal to weld in a 'U' section covering where the sway bar bolts...probably will do both sides. Anything other than the obvious I should be looking out for? thanks, -m From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 07:53:47 2007 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width In-Reply-To: <024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com> <024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910710310753h647276eduf98917113120f31c@mail.gmail.com> Maybe I was thinking of Minilite/Minotaur 13 X 5s that can be found around, but I guess those were aftermarket, not stock. I've had my hands on some wires that were wider than stock, too, but I can't remember for sure if they were 4.5 or 5, probably 4.5. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 31 08:05:51 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com> <024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910710310753h647276eduf98917113120f31c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003701c81bcf$874c6490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Maybe I was thinking of Minilite/Minotaur 13 X 5s that can be found > around, but I guess those were aftermarket, not stock. > I've had my hands on some wires that were wider than stock, too, but I > can't remember for sure if they were 4.5 or 5, probably 4.5. Yeah, when it comes to aftermarket, the wallet is the limit. My street tires are on 5-inch minators. For that matter, my autocross rims are 6-inch Vega rims that look "Vega-ly" like RO-Styles. I believe that Daniel runs aftermarket wires rather wider than stock. David Lieb 1972 RWA Midget From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Oct 31 08:43:49 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:43:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS '07 In-Reply-To: <001601c81b70$2fae7a70$8f0b6f50$@com> References: <001601c81b70$2fae7a70$8f0b6f50$@com> Message-ID: <4728A2B5.2050901@wi.net> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > One project for SOS '07 that we might consider is the disassembly of a very > interesting race car I picked up last winter. It's a Bugeye with an > extensive West Coast history. I have log books showing 119 races from the > early 70's to the 90's. It was originally raced by Mike Mayon and > motorsports hall of fame member Elliott Forbes Robinson. See > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Forbes-Robinson. The next owner was > Dwayne Anderson, who worked with Carroll Shelby during the Can Am years. > ......... > WST > HAPPY BIRTHDAY E.F.R.!!! Count me in W_m_. ! Dave 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 05 MCS Burlington WI From PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net Wed Oct 31 09:11:26 2007 From: PAsgeirsson at worldnet.att.net (Paul Asgeirsson) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:11:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com><024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910710310753h647276eduf98917113120f31c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007501c81bd8$b2264ec0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Keep in mind that the width of a rim is measured on the inside. It's the distance from each side that the tire bead presses against. Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width > Maybe I was thinking of Minilite/Minotaur 13 X 5s that can be found > around, but I guess those were aftermarket, not stock. > I've had my hands on some wires that were wider than stock, too, but I > can't remember for sure if they were 4.5 or 5, probably 4.5. > _______________________________________________ > pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 09:25:21 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:25:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Inflatable car storage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0A3179C2-EDE7-4550-96A4-4F3761CAA599@comcast.net> uhh.. noooo.. the problem is that you must have popups enabled.. I don't.. although I did for that short time. ;-) Lester On Oct 29, 2007, at 11:26 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > I think your computer/server is most definitely the dead link! :) > > CapBob From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 09:35:28 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:35:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Inflatable car storage In-Reply-To: <0A3179C2-EDE7-4550-96A4-4F3761CAA599@comcast.net> References: <0A3179C2-EDE7-4550-96A4-4F3761CAA599@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK, I just CAN'T stay out of this ANY longer!!! First you talk about a dead "link", now enabling "popups" Are you guys surfing the Viagra website or WHAT??? On 10/31/07, oldsaabguy wrote: > uhh.. noooo.. the problem is that you must have popups enabled.. I > don't.. although I did for that short time. > > ;-) > > Lester > > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 11:26 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > > > I think your computer/server is most definitely the dead link! :) > > > > CapBob > _______________________________________________ > tequila.brad at gmail.com > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 09:49:22 2007 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (oldsaabguy) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:49:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear bumper orientation.. Message-ID: Ok, so it's small end up or the other way?? Lester From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 31 10:30:12 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:30:12 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear bumper orientation.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It faces rearwards. ED >From: oldsaabguy > >Ok, so it's small end up or the other way?? > >Lester From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 31 11:13:28 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:13:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? Message-ID: YIKES! http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-Brookland-Mgb-convertible-W0QQAdIdZ27524827 or http://tinyurl.com/2pylk4 www.noisette-software.com/brooklands/ From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Oct 31 11:35:49 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:35:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? References: Message-ID: <002201c81bec$dc1d7910$1da1bf46@personal> Why shucks, it looks good, it's different, I think I like it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? > YIKES! > > http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-Brookland-Mgb-convertible-W0QQAdIdZ27524827 > or > http://tinyurl.com/2pylk4 > > > www.noisette-software.com/brooklands/ > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 10:06 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 31 11:41:14 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? References: <002201c81bec$dc1d7910$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <004901c81bed$9de85fb0$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> >> http://tinyurl.com/2pylk4 > Why shucks, it looks good, it's different, I think I like it. Interesting, but why in the world would one start with an MGB? From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Oct 31 12:20:06 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega-ly Re: RB/CB Midget rim width In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7BF2CECB-8535-4340-9ADC-96BCB9E49797@dartmouth.edu> On Oct 31, 2007, at 3:00 PM, "David Lieb" wrote: > For that matter, my autocross rims are 6-inch Vega rims > that look "Vega-ly" like RO-Styles. Hey, a Vega gt hatchback was my first car - built it in my dad's garage from three Vegas purchased in various degrees of decay/total! I think the whole car cost me about $150 when all was done... Not a car I have seen (or heard mentioned) anywhere in about 20 years! Probably with good reason... -m From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Oct 31 12:24:15 2007 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:24:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega-ly Re: RB/CB Midget rim width References: <7BF2CECB-8535-4340-9ADC-96BCB9E49797@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <004f01c81bf3$a09e9750$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> > Not a car I have seen (or heard mentioned) anywhere in about 20 > years! Probably with good reason... Where have you been hiding? Chris recently acquired a Cosworth Vega. I think the 1972 Vega GT was a very attractive little car. I wouldn't mind having one... David From 63ahbj7 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 14:00:03 2007 From: 63ahbj7 at gmail.com (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:00:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Practical Classics / Buster Cluster Message-ID: <08d801c81c01$02fb2e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> You JD, HELP poor RD out will ya!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Duquette To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster Well ... you lost me. When I was asked if my wife wanted me to go to someplace that is hot all the time, I assumed the thought was "Go to Hell". Is there a placenamed 'Hell' in the US? I have been to "Hell" on the island of Grand Cayman. I would go there again, in non-prime hurricane season, if I had the money. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? >-----Original Message----- >From: 63AHBJ7 > ><> > >Not a bad drive for you RD, and you could visit JD in Chelsea, MI !!!!! >And >if you where to time it right, attend a VERY large biker event, right >JD??? > > _______________________________________________ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:56:39 2007 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:56:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Do this TONIGHT!!!! Message-ID: http://www.filecabi.net/video/glow-in-the-dark-mountain-dew.html This is too F'n COOL!!! -- www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 14:38:11 2007 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:38:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? References: Message-ID: <00ff01c81c06$56b93920$6401a8c0@Larry> A fiberglass body on an MGB "frame"? When did they start making MGBs with frames? Larry Daniels 79 MGB LE 60 Bugeye 67 Austin A60 Pickup (Ute) "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [Spridgets] MGB and MGBGT ?? YIKES! http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-Brookland-Mgb-convertible-W0QQAdIdZ27524827 or http://tinyurl.com/2pylk4 www.noisette-software.com/brooklands/ _______________________________________________ ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Edit your replies http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.14/1100 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 6:26 PM From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Oct 31 16:11:32 2007 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard Saxon) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:11:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Do this TONIGHT!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071031221653.WTUI3242.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com@heard> Holy crap. Was there Mountain Dew at that site? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+heard=datatrontech.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:57 PM To: Yahoo Spridget list; SpridgetsList; TheDrams at yahoogroups.com; Slobberbone; Drive by Truckers Subject: [Spridgets] Do this TONIGHT!!!! http://www.filecabi.net/video/glow-in-the-dark-mountain-dew.html This is too F'n COOL!!! From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 31 15:18:55 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:18:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sounds of the Sport... Message-ID: <47289CDF.19609.666570@dmg.bossig.com> I just bought "Into the Red" by Nick Mason (Yeah! THAT Nick Mason) If the pictures were not enough, the sounds on the CD blew me away... It was like being in the pits.... I remember seeing and hearing many of those cars on the tracks in England and Europe... Played them REAL loud.... ;^D - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From logical2 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 31 15:31:06 2007 From: logical2 at hotmail.com (Frank Edwards) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:31:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals Message-ID: Hello all; Does anyone know anything about rear seals for "A" series engines? Any information would be apperciated. ThanksFrank R. Edwards570-784-4662logical2 at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Oct 31 15:42:48 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:42:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals References: Message-ID: <002701c81c0f$5d0c8d50$1da1bf46@personal> There is no rear seal as such, only a scroll seal built in to the crank and the block mostly. And yes they leak a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Edwards" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals > Hello all; > Does anyone know anything about rear seals for "A" series engines? Any > information would be apperciated. > ThanksFrank R. Edwards570-784-4662logical2 at hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ > Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble > challenge with star power. > http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 10:06 AM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Oct 31 15:50:05 2007 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals In-Reply-To: <002701c81c0f$5d0c8d50$1da1bf46@personal> References: <002701c81c0f$5d0c8d50$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: I think he wants the aftermarket ones. Don't Paul A. and Rivergate or MiniMania do something like that? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Laird Sent: October 31, 2007 6:43 PM To: Frank Edwards; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil seals There is no rear seal as such, only a scroll seal built in to the crank and the block mostly. And yes they leak a bit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Edwards" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals > Hello all; > Does anyone know anything about rear seals for "A" series engines? Any > information would be apperciated. > ThanksFrank R. Edwards570-784-4662logical2 at hotmail.com From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Oct 31 15:59:38 2007 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:59:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals References: <002701c81c0f$5d0c8d50$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <000901c81c11$b6865da0$1da1bf46@personal> Only one question, and I have heard several answers. Do they really work? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil seals >I think he wants the aftermarket ones. Don't Paul A. and Rivergate or > MiniMania do something like that? > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces+robertduquette=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Jack Laird > Sent: October 31, 2007 6:43 PM > To: Frank Edwards; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil seals > > There is no rear seal as such, only a scroll seal built in to the crank > and > the block mostly. > > And yes they leak a bit. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Edwards" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:31 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals > > >> Hello all; >> Does anyone know anything about rear seals for "A" series engines? Any >> information would be apperciated. >> ThanksFrank R. Edwards570-784-4662logical2 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ > jlaird237 at cox.net > > Edit your replies > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: > 10/30/2007 10:06 AM From 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 19:15:31 2007 From: 63AHBJ7 at comcast.net (63AHBJ7) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:15:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] oil seals References: <002701c81c0f$5d0c8d50$1da1bf46@personal> <000901c81c11$b6865da0$1da1bf46@personal> Message-ID: <03cb01c81c2d$1495d950$6601a8c0@actualshop> <> Paul's does, Jack. Me From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 19:00:52 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:00:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation In-Reply-To: <380-220071033131352687@earthlink.net> References: <380-220071033131352687@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <47293354.9050400@comcast.net> Robert Bruce Evans wrote: > Simple. It is Italian! Hmmm. Oh, yeah, you and Frank would not > understand. Ron I have TWO nail guns, Buster has TWO knee caps. Which one do you want? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 19:03:59 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:03:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width In-Reply-To: <003701c81bcf$874c6490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910710310410q4aac5244ke90892356da4f72e@mail.gmail.com> <024201c81bb5$0b7c38a0$0401a8c0@midget> <5f00d9910710310753h647276eduf98917113120f31c@mail.gmail.com> <003701c81bcf$874c6490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <4729340F.4080905@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Yeah, when it comes to aftermarket, the wallet is the limit. > My street tires are on 5-inch minators. I have a set of 7" wide slots on the racer (project) Midget. The tires are 10" wide! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 19:19:45 2007 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:19:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Frame boxing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <472937C1.4070700@comcast.net> Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > Anyone have any pointers to gotchas on patching/boxing the front > portion of a '79 frame - specifically where the sway bar bolts up. A couple of tricks I have used in the past.... 2 pieces of angle iron welded inside the existing box to form an inside box. The box frame is really a 2" "U" with a 3" bottom plate. I have had the local sheetmetal shop bend up the U channel, the bottom flat is easy. I have reinforced areas like under the sway bar mounts, made better jack hole points, installed 1/2" steel inside the cross member, and things like that where they tend to bend or rust out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU Wed Oct 31 19:36:04 2007 From: mark.a.oneil at Dartmouth.EDU (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:36:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 5, Issue 95 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D8A2877-BDDB-4F59-8135-024272239161@dartmouth.edu> On Oct 31, 2007, at 2:24 PM, "David Lieb" wrote: >> Not a car I have seen (or heard mentioned) anywhere in about 20 >> years! Probably with good reason... > > Where have you been hiding? Chris recently acquired a Cosworth > Vega. I think the 1972 Vega GT was a very attractive little car. I > wouldn't mind having one... > David Heh, obviously I've been running in the wrong circles! Agreed, the GT was a nice lil' car and it was a blast to drive, just a bit of a rust bucket is all... figured most had gone to the crusher for that reason. Have to admit that today there are several similar vintage ('74) cars I'd rather have. -m From nory1 at adelphia.net Wed Oct 31 19:46:09 2007 From: nory1 at adelphia.net (Nory) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Practical Classics / Buster Cluster In-Reply-To: <08d801c81c01$02fb2e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> References: <08d801c81c01$02fb2e60$6601a8c0@actualshop> Message-ID: <49321DEA-6B7D-4F29-807C-5431423AB64F@adelphia.net> Yes, there is a Hell in the US. It's not all that warm in Hell, MI though.......... http://www.hell2u.com/ On Oct 31, 2007, at 5:00 PM, 63AHBJ7 wrote: > You JD, HELP poor RD out will ya!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Duquette > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:44 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Practical Classics / Buster Cluster > > > Well ... you lost me. When I was asked if my wife wanted me to go to > someplace that is hot all the time, I assumed the thought was "Go > to Hell". > Is there a placenamed 'Hell' in the US? I have been to "Hell" on > the island > of Grand Cayman. I would go there again, in non-prime hurricane > season, if > I had the money. So, where the hell is 'Hell'? From b-evans at earthlink.net Wed Oct 31 20:12:10 2007 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Bruce Evans) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:12:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - garage revelation Message-ID: <380-22007114131210359@earthlink.net> Frank Clarici wrote: "Ron I have TWO nail guns, Buster has TWO knee caps. Which one do you want?" Oh, my! Has some swine been using my e-mail address again!?!? Let's see, ya, Jim Johnson. He's the one you need to get. HE did it!! From htpc2 at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 20:51:29 2007 From: htpc2 at comcast.net (Rick Sorak) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:51:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] carb needles Message-ID: <00dd01c81c3a$7e0951c0$6900a8c0@htpc> Hello list, After recently using my choke for the 1st time this season, my 1310cc engine w/ stock 1098 carbs seems lean. Where's the best place to get needles or should I just file mine.....Any suggestions on how much and where, Thanks Rick '65 Midget Engine also has a header, mild head porting, and a crane cam.... From dmg at bossig.com Wed Oct 31 22:08:36 2007 From: dmg at bossig.com (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:08:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] RB/CB Midget rim width In-Reply-To: <4729340F.4080905@comcast.net> References: <441250190710302337y4e9a9e6ayb9991ca491b41ace@mail.gmail.com>, <003701c81bcf$874c6490$0e14f30a@NilesAD.von.gov>, <4729340F.4080905@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4728FCE4.363.1DD78C9@dmg.bossig.com> I don't know how to convert the measurements, but I was runnng BR50-13's on my '67 Sprite when I was into SCCA Solo II stuff.. They were on American Racing rims. Nice and Fat and Sticky!! On 31 Oct 2007 at 21:03, Frank Clarici wrote: >> David Lieb wrote: >> >> > Yeah, when it comes to aftermarket, the wallet is the limit. >> > My street tires are on 5-inch minators. >> >> I have a set of 7" wide slots on the racer (project) Midget. >> The tires are 10" wide! >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> dmg at bossig.com >> >> Edit your replies >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> - Dave G '65 MKIII Sprite From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Oct 26 07:56:20 2007 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:56:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Re: MGA Engine block I.D.] Message-ID: <4721F204.5060808@wi.net> The following is from Barney Gaylord of the MG list and can be reached at: barneymg at mgaguru.com Barney wrote: Okay, I'll bite. I don't think this will make it to the Spritgets list, because I'm not subscribed there. If anyone wants to forward it there, it's okay. To verify the engine block series look for 1-inch tall raised cast numerals on the side of the block just above the left engine mount. It WILL have 1500, 1600, 1622, or 1800 (or an odd exception labeled 1620). MGA 1500 and 1600 both use the "15" head. MGA 1600-MK-II has the 1622 engine and uses the "16" head with one size larger valves, better porting, and larger volume combusion chamber (43cc vs 38cc). The 1622 engine also has a stronger crankshaft which will not fit into the 1500/1600 block without some serious machining on the block. MGB has the 1800 engine with "18" head. The "18" head is nearly identical to the"16" head except for a small difference in the Weslake promentory (pointed heart shape between the valves in the chamber). Heads with no such series number on top at back could be almost anything with any size valves. A lot of factory supplied replacement heads had no series number there and could be machined for various size valves. The only way to know for sure is to remove the head to measure the valve head diameters. I do not have a full list of casting numbers to know which "non-series-marked" head may have what size valves (because they are not MGA parts). The 1600 block was a special casting for MGA to compete in the 1600cc racing class. The 1600 engine in similar form could have been used in other "sporting" type cars such as TVR and Elva. When the factory stepped away from racing they dropped the special (expensive) 1600 block casting and went to using the 1622 engine, then giving it the "16" head with larger valves to make more power. The "16" head is generally rare, as it was only used for 14 months of MGA 1600-MK-II production. The same engine as a whole may have been used in some sporting variants such as TVR and Elva. None of this necessarily applies to cars other than the MGA (and MGB). I don't know if the "16" head was ever used on any other car, especially not on "non-sporting" models. Very many other applications (vehicles and stationary engines) using the 1622 engine had the "15" head. The "1620" engine block was cast in Australia. This has the same bore and stroke as the 1622 but uses the crankshaft from the 1500/1600 series engines, NOT the crank from the 1622 engine. The 1620 engine also had the "15" head and was used in some Morris Major cars. Some of these engines appear to have found their way to England and are sometimes discovered being used as a replacement in other cars. The Nash Metropolitan had a lower power version of the Austin 1500 engine (in late production). The head on the Met 1500 engine has smaller valves and is totally unsuitable for use on the MGA as it saps away too much torque and power at anything over 2000 rpm. It is so bad that you would have trouble entering an acelleration lane on an expressway, and the engine would struggle to go much past 4500 rpm with any appreciable torque. I had one of these small valve heads on an MGA once, and it took a couple of miles to get it up to 70-75 mph. Hope this explains a few things. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com